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Trisha Paytas
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Moses Hacmon
he's hoping Elsie has good health and success for the sake of their daughter. So that report came out.
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Trisha Paytas
If Moses, like, I wish you good health and success with your daughter. What do you mean? This is our daughter five months ago. Like, you better be here every day. Who's Jimmy Chuck? Like, where did it come from? Why did you post that? Like, that was so weird. It's like he almost, like, wants to get canceled. He gets off on getting canceled or something because, like, what. Her name is. Just Trish. Hello. Welcome to the Gestures podcast. May is flourishing, much like these flowers. We're all blossoming and growing and staying hydrated. Thanks for the water, Moses bringing two waters in. Oscar was already hydrated.01 for Oscar. He said, I already got my water. We're hydrated. Hydrated. Hi.
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Oscar
It's a good name for drag queen.
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Trisha Paytas
Okay.
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Oscar
Dr. Last name.
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Trisha Paytas
Right? Like, Laganja. Estrandra might be hydrated. Yeah. Or that's Addison, too. Anyways, welcome to the Dasha's podcast, y'. All. I'm going, y'. All. Me being Deborah Vance in episode four, y'. All. I'm going. I don't know. I said y'. All. I should say I'm going to England. I'm going to London this week. Let me know where there's food that tastes delicious because I'm always struggling. But that's okay. It's actually fine. I don't need to be eating all the time over there. But I'm excited to go there. I did. See, I've been saving some things about teas and chocolates and stuff. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna eat while I'm over there. Anyways, come see me at Royal Opera Hall, Sunday, May 24. There's still a few tickets left, so come see me. It's going to be great. I can't wait to perform with my string quartet to all my songs, including my new K pop song, Sadang Hay. I'll be doing it live. It is not AI. It is my voice. People are, like, kind of gagged. I can sing more of that later than Korean. But, you know, Anyang Haseo for liking your new bias. Trisha Uni over here.
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Moses Hacmon
Who's Ubias?
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Trisha Paytas
Trisha?
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Moses Hacmon
It's trash.
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Trisha Paytas
It's trash. Yeah. Anyways, I was gonna say. I know more too. J. Hosea, do you like it? I think that's right. I don't know. Let me double check that one. But I was. I was practicing. I know. Bagel pa. I think I'm hungry. Anyways, I'm trying to learn my Korean. It's kind of hard to do the duolingo because you also have to, like, know the. The Korean Alphabet, which is very hard for me. Yeah, it's kind of hard. So I've been trying to, like, read it too, and write, which I just am. Anyways, more on that later. But I will be doing Saranghae live and my new song, Crying on the Kitchen Floor live. There was two new songs since our last podcast that came out. I've just been back to back. Your favorite artist could never Droplets.
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Moses Hacmon
We're in the droplets era.
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Trisha Paytas
We're in the droplets. They're coming. It's a tsunami coming. There's so much more. You know, I have a show. I have a show coming, and I needed to, you know, have some new songs.
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Moses Hacmon
I says for the Trisha rollout, which is very much like, let me just post. It's ready. It's here. I'm like, okay. I wake up. And then all of a sudden, the music video dropped. And I was like, okay, the rollout is fear.
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Trisha Paytas
Did you miss the actual drop last night at midnight? Well, it was 2:00pm In South Korea, so I was looking out for my Korean fans. I got you. Okay. I was like, this is the time to post. Also, my director gave it to me early and I was like, I need to post this right now. I was getting a lot of positive feedback. I posted yesterday, like, me singing it on the set, and everyone's just like, wait, this actually is kind of good. Thank you so much to all. I was gonna say my fellow Korean speakers, but I'll do Korean speakers out there who are like, her pronunciation is so good. Because I didn't know, you know, I was. I Was very. It took me about a week to, like, get through the whole song and stuff like that. So I'm glad that it was good. I love singing it. You know, I sing it all around the house. It's my biggest flex. I love this song so much. And, like, weirdly, when I was practicing live for it, everyone's like, oh, can you, like, sing it live? I weirdly know this song better than any of my other songs because I'm actually practicing it, and I feel like my other songs, I never really, like, practice like that, but this one, I had to make sure it was, like, perfect. So anyways, yeah, I dropped it last night. I'm very. I'm very happy that I had good feedback because I was nervous because you just never know. Could always go one of a couple ways. Especially because k pop is such a thing and there are so many amazing k pop people out there, but they don't have an aegyo like me. You know what I mean? They don't have the heg yo like I do. And I appreciate it. I'm still trying to learn, you guys. Choa choa. That's what it is. Choa ego. Yeah. So did you like it?
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Moses Hacmon
I actually really did. Like, it's very cute. And the music video is really pretty, too.
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Trisha Paytas
Thank you.
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Moses Hacmon
I love all the looks. The face card. Face card's a sickening.
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Trisha Paytas
Face card never declines. Thank you.
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Moses Hacmon
I wasn't expecting idol Trish, but here we are.
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Trisha Paytas
That's where it was. Yeah. You know, maybe. I don't know. Maybe I'll be joining the. The hybe.
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Moses Hacmon
Hybe excommunication.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, maybe. I know I'm a little out of the age range and the weight range, but there's always room for a new
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Moses Hacmon
saint Satine if they need a fish outside.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Maybe I'll do a collab with Jenny. You know, does anybody. Oh, my God.
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Moses Hacmon
Lisa. Yeah. Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
I'm ready, and I'm ready to go to South Korea. I've been seeing so many people go over there, and I want to go. I want to get my color chart. I want to get my lips the lip tint. I want to eat all the good food, and I've been sending all of them to Moses. It's like, oh, kid friendly places in South Korea. And they have, like, these really cool, like, slides and on train and, like, these cool. So I am. I'm looking. I want to wear the big outfits. I don't know. It looks fun, maybe just manifesting it. I don't know. I Would love to be on. There were so many shows and I already forgot. There's one with like stairs that are iconic and radio should be on there. I forgot what that's called.
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Moses Hacmon
I think Studio Tomb is another iconic one.
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Trisha Paytas
I would love to be on all that. Or the Mama Awards, I think. Yeah, I'm getting there. Guys. You guys know I did do this song because my kids are really in to K pop because obviously, obviously the demon hunters, obviously, of course, like hunt tricks they like, loved. But what happens on YouTube because we're logged in on our big TV under mo account. Usually they're on YouTube kids or something like that. But on Moses accounts we have like, you know, the hunter songs, like take down stuff but like, it'll like circle in the next thing. So like the Apta Apita, which is a. No, no, not just K Pop. It's like, is it Rosa?
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Moses Hacmon
Rosa Ros.
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Trisha Paytas
Rose, yeah. Love that name. Oh, my God. We just went to Rosie all day. We did not drink any Rose, but we like went there yesterday. This whole thing was like rose all day. But anyways, love that. I wonder if she named herself after that or that's just her name.
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Moses Hacmon
Her name is Rosie, like in real life. But Rose is like the stage.
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Trisha Paytas
I love her. Is she considered. She's not K popping. She considered K pop.
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Moses Hacmon
She's K pop. She's in blackpink. She's from God. I forget Australia or New Zealand. I forget which one. And I know there's a big contention between the two. I think Australia.
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Trisha Paytas
Okay.
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Moses Hacmon
But she is. Yeah, she went to like. She went to like the K pop.
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Trisha Paytas
Oh, she. Yeah, so she's. She's K pop. So. So that's what they. Because they love that song too. And then it would like circle into like K pop song. Because I know a lot of K pop songs. What I found out from mine is like, oh, my God, this is 100 Korean. A lot of K pop songs. Maybe only do like, you know, 10% Korean or like 50 Korean or something like that, which they told me a lot of people did. The. The writers. Moses, like, do you want to do like some of it in English? And I was like, no, I won't do it all in Korean. And you know what? People appreciated that. They're like, I love that this whole song is in Korean. I get like the appeal, obviously, like to be in a broader audience, to appeal to the US audience, maybe have a little English. But I'm not trying to appeal to the US Yeah. I'm trying to go over to South Korea and shout out to all my South Koreans because I think it's working. I've been stuck at 11 million followers on TikTok this morning. 11.1. I've been at 11 million for like a. 11.1, 100,000.
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Oscar
And that's the entire state of Korea.
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Trisha Paytas
And the sound has like, how many. How many videos?
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Oscar
The hundreds.
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Trisha Paytas
No, I think I had like 800 last I checked. 800, 800. And normally for contacts, like, crying on the controller has like 40 uses. Even ones like last year that I put out, like, Gay Freaky. All those have maybe 800. And those are after, like, years of being on Tick Tock. This one in a day had like 800 videos. So I don't know. I feel like it's a hit. I'm not trying to pop. Bass tweeted about it. I'm kind of surprised. No one cares about my music ever.
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Oscar
I mean, the comments. Half of the comments were in Korean. And the comments were so nice about, like, there's more lyrics in this than the usual K Pop. And they love the lyrics too.
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Trisha Paytas
Shout out Alex. Right?
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Oscar
Very catchy. I mean, I have it in my head all the time. Once I hear it, it's in my head. Yeah, it's just really good. People love it.
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Trisha Paytas
As soon as I heard this song, I know people might be like, where? Where did this even come from? This little side quest, the side venture I like again, I really liked it. And my. I work with the same engineer, Jaime, who works with, like, literally everybody. He's worked with, like, everybody. Like, everybody. And I was like, hey, do you know anyone in, like, K Pop? And I figured he does because he has, like, a studio and he knew Alex, who wrote the song. Alex, right. And he was like, so kind to be like, here's like, a few songs we have, and I got to listen to maybe like 20 different K pop songs. And this one, my girls immediately were like, dancing to. Like, even they, like, know the song. You weren't down there last night. I was, like, playing it in the booth because I was playing it on the TV and, like, I even switched Bluey. I was like, from. From Bluey to like, me. And I know, but they, like, loved it.
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Moses Hacmon
We seen it for some real entertainment. Kids like Bluey over.
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Trisha Paytas
They didn't have a choice.
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Oscar
Like, Bluey is a big competition.
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Trisha Paytas
Well, usually they're like, bring back Bluey. But last night, Elvis. Elvis was like, more mommy. I was like, more mom. Because I was like, oh, let me just watch it. I want to see on the big screen. Make sure it looked okay before I posted it. So I was like, let me put it on the big screen. And then I was like. And then I was gonna mirror off and go back to Bluey and Elvis, like, more mommy. And they, like, sing the song like, it's crazy. It's so wild to me. And so I knew when they. When they played this one, I had, like. I said probably, like, 20 songs I could listen to. When I played this one for them, and they, like, liked it and danced to it, immediately I was like, this is the hit. So Shout out again. Alex, for not only writing and producing it, but also being in the studio with me and was being so sweet. You know when you learn a new language from scratch. Nara Smith over here. Like, when you learn a new language, like, totally. Just. Just cold and like, I didn't. I didn't have much. Well, that's not true. I didn't know how to count to 10 in Korean before this. I did know a little Korean prior because I did take some taekwondo. Hana Dual Set Net Asa. Like, I did know a little Korean, but that's about it. So when you go into a language from scratch, like, again. And I didn't know him. I only knew him through Jaime. He was so sweet, and he was just so. I don't know. I think I told you when I was recording song, it took, like, five days to record it. But when I was recording it, he kept, like, smiling, and I was like, are you sure it's okay? Is it okay? And he's just like, yeah, it's, like, cute. He's like, it sounds like, like a little kid, like, trying to, like, learn language and, like, in a good way. And so he was just, like, appreciative that I, like, wanted to learn. He was super sweet to, like, teach me, like, cadence and all that stuff like that. Because it's just, like, a lot of languages, like, it's hard.
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Oscar
It's hard to teach somebody a new language.
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Trisha Paytas
A new language is also when there's languages that have different. Right. They have different sounds. Like, I'm trying to think of one that, like. Like, it's like. It's very. Like, when there's just different. Like. I don't know how to say it. Like, just sounds, I guess. You know what I mean?
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Oscar
The pronunciation, like, where it comes in your mouth, it's like a whole different way of producing a sound.
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Trisha Paytas
Like, even that, like. Like, it's just. It's. There's just. I don't know how to say it. Like there's just like. It's almost like you smile instead of saying like good. It's like g'. Day. Like you know, it's just really. I don't know. He was very sweet to like literally that's why it took so long to do each thing and I wanted to like learn it the right way. So thank you guys again for being like. Pronunciation was good. It was, you know I did it in about a week but I would love to do more. Like I said, I do have like three other songs that are in the works but I just want to see how it's going to go first. And I think it's good. So I love it and I'm going to perform them at my show in England and everywhere and I'm glad people liked it. Like I said, I was shocked.
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Moses Hacmon
Maybe you'll be a guest at that K pop festival. The one that cat's eyes here at the Rose Bowl.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I mean I can't confirm or deny. Hi. I don't know. Maybe I'll be there. I would absolutely love any, any chance to be at any K Pop festival. I will. I would love to. I'm really trying to be in this market and mainly because my 3 and 2 year old like are obsessed with it and like it is. It is catchy. Like these songs are catchy. Like I wish I could tell you the other ones that they like listen to. They know them better than me. But yeah, they'll like listen to a song like in Korean like even bts. I don't know if they're like. Are they still making. They're still making me.
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Moses Hacmon
Yeah. They just came back actually. They just released a new album. They took their break because they had to serve in the military. But they just made their comeback like last month. Three weeks ago, four weeks ago.
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Oscar
Okay.
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Trisha Paytas
Oh yeah, Very much like Elvis, military and back. K Pop Stan over here. I love that. Okay. Because they were like listening to BS and I'm like. I don't know if they're like. But anyways they're. They love them too. Like some of their older like songs obviously I get like a billion views. They get so many views but it's very exciting. I really like this world. You guys know also too. I just love trying new things. I just love to try new things because sometimes you just get bored. Netflmer. Did they ever try K Pop? I don't think so. Maybe they did. They're like actually we went to the Hybe training camp and looked at it. Did they do It.
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Moses Hacmon
They did. The Try guys watch K pop for the first time.
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Trisha Paytas
Okay. Yeah.
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Moses Hacmon
The Try guys try K Pop.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they did.
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Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
No.
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Moses Hacmon
10 years ago, baby.
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Trisha Paytas
Let me see. Let me see what they're saying.
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Oscar
Like, when that's your brand, you have to try everything under the sun.
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Moses Hacmon
What?
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Trisha Paytas
How many views?
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Moses Hacmon
8.4. I mean, it was a series, but yeah. 8.4. 6.
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Trisha Paytas
What do you mean? They did it multiple times? They did multiple things.
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Moses Hacmon
Five episodes in this series of K Pop.
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Trisha Paytas
I couldn't be more jealous. I want to do that. That's gonna be me when I go to South Korea.
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Oscar
You're actually doing it. You're not trying it. You're actually doing it.
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Trisha Paytas
That's me, period. I did it. Didn't even have to try. I would love. I would love to do more. Just trying Korean everything, you know, I love the head spas. Everything. The glass skin. Y' all know what's up. Mikayla Guerrero is over there every other month trying skincare. Anyways, with love, I have a bunch of soul shirts in there, Solstice, so all this stuff. So I'm ready. I'm ready to go explore the world. You ever been?
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Moses Hacmon
I have not, no.
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Trisha Paytas
You're such a. You're like a little K pop Stan over there.
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Moses Hacmon
I'm new to K pop, though. I think my first introduction was bts. I'm obviously more of, like, a girl group Stan. So then, like, my first girl group introduction was blackpink, just because I feel like they were the first ones, like, girl groups to, like, really blow up in America. And then since then, I have dabbled in a few other groups. Like, I like. I like, illegit. Like, new jeans, obviously. Cat's Eye was, like, a huge introduction to, like, how the academies work.
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Trisha Paytas
Right.
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Moses Hacmon
It's been really interesting. And now we have Saint Satine, so I'm getting into it a little bit.
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Trisha Paytas
I don't know.
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Moses Hacmon
Saint Satine, they're the new cat size sister group.
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Trisha Paytas
Oh, that's right. You did.
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Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
Okay.
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Moses Hacmon
But, yeah, I think it's. I just think it's so fascinating how they, like, take these girls and. And the boys, too, because, like, BTS and, like, they. They make the way they make, like, boy groups in general, and they, like, train them and, like, how they, I don't know, make stars.
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Trisha Paytas
It is crazy.
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Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it is. It's wild, too. Like, how they. How do they know who's the talent ones and from such a young age
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Moses Hacmon
and, like, how each member, like, fulfills a certain thing. So you kind of have to do everything. You have to be your own visual, you have to be your own vocals, you have to be your own lead dancer to be your own did it all.
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Trisha Paytas
Hi. Watch out. I'm coming. I did. Well, you have no choice when you don't have anyone that wants. That doesn't think you're a star. No one. I would have loved to have been discovered at 14 years old, but unfortunately I'm still waiting at 38 years old. But one day, maybe I will take me on.
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Moses Hacmon
See? Yeah. Maybe this will like show them. And I love all the marketing. Like, I love the photo cards. It is very like capitalism core. But it's fun. Like the photo cards. Immersion light sticks.
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Oscar
Like, don't.
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Trisha Paytas
Oh. Everyone's been saying that the light sticks and photo cards, like, when is your dropping? And I'm like, oh, I don't know what that is, but I'm gonna figure it out. Like you said, I'm the marketing team too. So I need to figure all this out. I will take on any South Korean management that would know I used to
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Oscar
have our headshots and the stickers. So that's gonna be.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah. But I think I need it for this new era. I should have taken them on the
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Oscar
set, you know, saying that's gonna be replaced with. Now it's gonna be photo cards.
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Trisha Paytas
Oh yeah. Once I get this. The book done. Pre order. Crying on the Kitchen Floor Memoir. Cuz I have a lot of copies. They keep showing up. You want to sign more? You guys have been selling them out. They're kind of. I guess they were sold out everywhere. And so then they ordered a few more. And then when I'm in the UK, I'm gonna sign. I think I have 100 copies for the UK pre orders over there. So we're signing away over here.
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Oscar
But yeah, the music video has more views now than all of your videos in the last year.
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Moses Hacmon
Can I tell you, this is the only Trisha video I've ever gotten a notification for. Like, I was just. Yeah. When I parked, I got a notification to like watch. To watch the music video. Wait, maybe the first time it's been put. Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
Thank you, YouTube. Thank you. I appreciate you so much. That's so co. I remember I was. I was testing Moses with my Korean. I was like, okay, tell me what you think these means. And you're supposed to bow when you do the. And you're. I'm like, what does it mean? And you knew right away. Thank you. I was like, wow. Okay. Lou. Bilingual.
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Oscar
They're posting I was like 10 years in Koreatown. Like, for me going to Korea, like, just. Just my old neighborhood.
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Trisha Paytas
Right, right, right. We do love K Town over here. It's really. Yeah, that's also. They're pushing it.
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Moses Hacmon
Yeah. Look, See what? I still have it. Yeah, it's still in there.
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Trisha Paytas
First time. No. Oh, my God. My K pop era. Oh, my gosh. How many views does it have? You said it's the most. How many?
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Oscar
Well, here I see it at 50, 000, but your. Your real time is probably 50 to 80, 000.
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Trisha Paytas
I've gotten 50, 000 views in a music video ever in, like 10 years. Oh, my gosh. This is my new life. This is my new era. I guess I should have. I know Oscar's like, oh, I thought you're gonna be more like K Pop. I didn't think it was. I didn't think anyone's gonna care. Even in rehearsals, they're like, are you sure you want to do this? I don't think anyone knows the song. I'm like, no, I want to do it. Oh, my God. That's crazy. It's gonna be my hit, my one hit wonder, My comeback or my. My one time. My one hit. My Diet Pepsi debut. Yeah, my debut. Maybe a puppy is picked up. Puppies never sweep up my music ever. Even when I was on tour, no one cared. And that's fine, 40, 000 people care. But now 50, 000 people care.
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Moses Hacmon
Wow.
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Trisha Paytas
Thank you. And thank you also. I really do appreciate it. I appreciate. Because you just. Again, you never know. I never want to, like, step on any toes. That's why I'm saying if I get nominated for a Grammy, I want to be in the category of, like, non Korean speaking Korean album. Because I don't want to take away from obviously the amazing, talented people, but they really do make the best music. Everyone, like, says it's catchy and it's like, yeah, it's like I had this whole new team that was so kind to like, let me have one of their songs, which was really, really nice because again, you just don't know. People might be like, no, this is weird. You're not. But they were all very, very sweet. Wow. What a great way to start the week. Okay. Love it. So much. Love you guys. Thank you. Oh, Sarang. Hey. Really? I love you. And that's it. That's very cool. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Summer is right around the corner, and that means hot Summer shows. Demi Lovato was just here in LA and everybody was there. And sometimes those tick are hard to get. Ariana Grande, you might be like, oh my gosh, I can't wait to see what La Rocha styling her in her tour this year. But guess what? You can get those tickets day of sometimes and you can get really great prices and you can also sell your tickets on SeatGeek if you can't go last minute. SeatGeek has great customer support. SeatGeek makes it easy to find tickets for everybody. Whether you're into sports, theater, comedy. More comedy is so big right now and there's a lot of comedy festivals happening and there's a lot of festivals happening this summer. Okay, maybe you want to see Addison Rae at a festival sometimes. You know, just finding those tickets. Seatgeek makes it easy. We're trying to see Backstreet Boys and those have been like sold out in the front. But I want to be in that pit. I want to be up there. No doubt. I know is bringing people up on stage if you're up there. So if you want to get those close up seats, SeatGeek has you covered. They have a really easy to navigate map which shows the little dots and you can show where you want to be. You can get the best deals, best seats. They have everything covered on SeatGeek. With over 35 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek. SeatGeek has your back. Each chick is rated on a scale of 1 to 10. So you know you're getting a good deal. So look for the green dots because green means good and red means bad. Plus every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. Concert season is about to kick off. To make it even better, you can use code TRISH2026 for 10% off your SeatGeek tickets. That's 10% off tickets with promo code TRISH2026. Make sure you click the link in the description and download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Did we upload our Patreon?
- [21:58]
Moses Hacmon
Yes.
- [21:59]
Trisha Paytas
Today or yesterday? I didn't know when I didn't see it this morning. Patreon.com Just Trish. You all are gonna have your minds blown. Okay. If you want to see. We were like starting off reacting to my HBO Max superstardom shows that I was in euphoria. And hats. And then I was like, you know what? Let's react to my self tape. And Oscar was blown away by it. You were the first person to see.
- [22:23]
Moses Hacmon
Truly left me speechless. I struggled to grasp for words as I watched it. Let's say that.
- [22:30]
Trisha Paytas
Let's say that I think we know where they got the inspiration from though. Looking back, back in my head, it was a completely different audition. The way I've been like saying it in the media, in the press. I was like, oh. Like it was a different audition completely. And I think I was Cassie in the audition. Without even knowing. I think I just gave them the inspo. I was like, what the hell is this? It was, it was weird. And it's saying behind the paywall. Yeah, we're gonna.
- [22:58]
Moses Hacmon
If you subscribe for anything, this is the one. Because I, I had like, like showed Darian like Darian had a hard day at work and I was like, I got something that's really gonna turn your night around. And I had to like leak the self tape to him and he was also speechless.
- [23:16]
Trisha Paytas
My first self tape ever. It's in Indianapolis, Indiana. The day of my first. You see the outlet behind me, my tripod of my ice bucket in the room. Like day before eras of Trish.
- [23:31]
Moses Hacmon
Oh my God.
- [23:32]
Trisha Paytas
It was. It was craz crazy. They cast me, but I understood why they cast because I was like, oh, you know, so many people auditioned for this part and I was like, oh, they, they cast me because I was. I was a d. I was. I don't know if I was acting. I don't know what the hell I was doing. Because like you said I would go in and out. I'd be like saying something crazy. But then I like just in case someone saw it, I was like, but also Trish, also Trish thinks this. Like it was very weird. It was weird. I wonder why I don't get casted for things hacks. I didn't even need a self tape. So that's probably why I got on there. Everything else I've self taped for I never got. So go watch it. To think to know why Sam Ovenson saw it and said, you, you for this role.
- [24:07]
Moses Hacmon
Perfect.
- [24:08]
Trisha Paytas
She's perfect. Honestly, people are wanting to see the hour long podcast. Like no, they have to release it. Like, and I say maybe not. I think I'm scared. I think maybe not on that. But the self tape is funny and I have like 20 self tapes on that. We just watched one. I think. I think I changed.
- [24:28]
Moses Hacmon
Or we watched two because yeah, you were like Just one take on a queen. So you had a lot of takes that ended about 30 seconds in.
- [24:36]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah. That was so weird too. I guess you have to. I don't know why in this particular one I didn't. I think I could have cut it. Cause it wasn't like I was doing lines. Like, it was weird that I did it all in one take. And if I didn't, like you said, I stopped at like 30 seconds. I guess I did that with like Camp Rock too. I guess I would. If it wasn't perfect, I would stop it.
- [24:54]
Oscar
Right. You did no editing. It was always a one shot.
- [24:57]
Trisha Paytas
But I guess we were doing lines, so that makes more sense. It'd be weird to like. Because I just wanted to. I guess when I'm doing lines, I want them to see that I memorize it because I always memorize it beforehand. This one was all improv, clearly. And I guess I may have stumbled over words or something. Maybe I stopped it. I don't know. I don't know. It was really weird. But yeah, February of 2025, I was. I was five months. Five months pregnant. So, you know, also pregnancy brain will blame it on that. I don't know what was happening. I very much misremembered what I thought it was versus what it was. But makes sense.
- [25:32]
Moses Hacmon
Apologies, Sydney Sweeney.
- [25:34]
Trisha Paytas
Yes, apologies to everyone involved, but luckily no one has to see that self tape. Except if you're on our Patreon. Patreon.
- [25:40]
Moses Hacmon
I'll give you guys my favorite two favorite quotes. My first one is, men have been in power for the past 30, 40 years, but we need to be nicer to them. Oh, yes, only 30 years.
- [25:53]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, the second take though was. Didn't I say?
- [25:55]
Moses Hacmon
You said centuries.
- [25:56]
Trisha Paytas
Centuries. I went from 20, 30 to 40 to centuries.
- [25:59]
Moses Hacmon
And then my other corrected myself is, it's wrong if I call a woman a fat whale, but. But I can stay here and call men dad bod. Man boobs. There's something wrong with that.
- [26:12]
Trisha Paytas
The cadence is so good too. That's exactly it. It's me in real time trying to think of the next thing I'm saying, which I'm really just bad at. Improv, which I'm always telling people, like, no, you're not. Like, no, I am.
- [26:23]
Moses Hacmon
Oh my God.
- [26:24]
Trisha Paytas
This is why I'm scared to improv. Because that was. Was crazy. It was crazy to watch. I hadn't seen it back and I'm like, okay, I should. We never watched the one from, I think 2021. My first audition for Euphoria because that was the same thing kind of, but it was like body posit, but I might have remembered it wrong. And I looked crazy in that one. Like, I remember I had like, really big hair. I. I wonder if I have it on my phone. Should I look, I can give you guys a little exclusive if I have it. Let me see. It was same thing. It was improv and I did not get casted on that one.
- [26:57]
Moses Hacmon
I want to show I'm scared for how bad it was if you died.
- [27:00]
Trisha Paytas
I know this was 2021 and this was. I remember we were like, I was glam to go eat pasta and I had this really big hair and I was like, oh, let me just do it real quick here. And I was like, okay, let me see if I can find it. I know exactly what day it was. I know it was June of 2021.
- [27:12]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, my God.
- [27:13]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. And I'll give you guys a little exclusive because we were supposed to watch it on Patreon and I think we didn't. Okay, let me go.
- [27:18]
Moses Hacmon
I just thought sweet about your music video and it said her biopic is going to be a trilogy.
- [27:27]
Trisha Paytas
I know.
- [27:27]
Moses Hacmon
It's a whole Twitter moment.
- [27:29]
Trisha Paytas
That is actually so true.
- [27:30]
Moses Hacmon
Number one highlight on today's news.
- [27:33]
Trisha Paytas
No. What? Let me see. I don't believe you. Wait, what does that mean?
- [27:40]
Moses Hacmon
You're above Harry Styles and what?
- [27:42]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, can you screenshot or record? How does this happen? Wait, this is crazy. I literally posted at midnight and then just like woke up this morning and showered to think about it on Twitter.
- [27:53]
Oscar
Let me check.
- [27:54]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my gosh. For me, I'm above euphoria, delivers ruse slap and Cassie twist. Wow. Oh, my gosh. It's so cool. In today's news. Oh, my God. Wait, that's wild. Okay, this is all finding out this in real time. This is so exciting.
- [28:11]
Oscar
Oh, yeah. Entertainment. You're the first. Really comes up to me. Trisha Paytas drop surprise K Pop single. How do you say it?
- [28:20]
Trisha Paytas
Sarang hae. Sarang hae. Wow. Oh, my gosh. K Pop debut unironically singing more Korean than most mainstream group. Oh, wow. She saw the state of K Pop and decided to save the industry. Oh my gosh. Wait. Why? People are liking you. This is so nice. Wow.
- [28:43]
Oscar
One little step this way.
- [28:45]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. So sorry. Yes. I got really excited W. This is
- [28:53]
Oscar
when you know the host has HD adhd me.
- [28:59]
Trisha Paytas
I do. I do have a little bit and I think you're right, babe. I think we might have filmed it on the big camera because I see the day. I'll just show you what it looked like. This was the. This was my. This is how I looked for my season two audition. That was the exact. I'll find the tape. I'll find the tape.
- [29:14]
Moses Hacmon
I kind of like Trixie Mattel.
- [29:18]
Trisha Paytas
I don't know why. Okay, maybe next time.
- [29:24]
Oscar
Tweets about the song. They're all have like tens of thousands of likes.
- [29:28]
Moses Hacmon
Wow.
- [29:29]
Oscar
I know what everyone is. They posted it 32, 000 likes. Who did 20, 000 likes. But the thing I see everywhere in the comments and everyone is she's singing more in Korean than most K pop groups. I'm crying.
- [29:40]
Trisha Paytas
They love it. So
- [29:44]
Oscar
you know when. When I. Because I always check the trending pages while we film just to see what's going on. And usually the most dominant are all the K pop. Like BTS is probably the biggest army in the world. Like they just one person does something and they have like half a million gosh tweets about it.
- [30:02]
Trisha Paytas
So I've been, I've been on the. I've been on the.
- [30:06]
Oscar
The Korean training Twitter redemption and yeah, Twitter's back.
- [30:11]
Trisha Paytas
Twitter is back with the important headlines. Okay. Kendall Jenner, Jacob Elordi, Trisha. Like, we're all. We're all saving Twitter. Wow, that's so cool. No, y' all don't really understand. Like I still can't really fully grasp it because like I'm always doing music videos and like no one ever cares. So I just do them for myself.
- [30:29]
Moses Hacmon
For the love of the game.
- [30:30]
Trisha Paytas
For the love of the game. Did. I'm back to back and I'm just like, wow, I'm so excited. I'm glad. I'm glad I worked. Like I said, I just. I wanted to do it just for fun. But who knows? Maybe we'll be moving this podcast to South Korean. A big commute. It's a big commute, but we'll do it. I don't know. I. I would love. How long is that flight?
- [30:52]
Moses Hacmon
That's a good 18 question.
- [30:54]
Trisha Paytas
20, 13 hours.
- [30:56]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, that's non stop.
- [30:57]
Trisha Paytas
13 hours.
- [30:58]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [30:58]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that's nothing. That's like going to England. That's crazy. We're going. We're coming. Okay. Love it. Surrounded by water. There's water. Yeah. Okay. Why is someone answering?
- [31:14]
Moses Hacmon
You looked at me like, like, well,
- [31:18]
Trisha Paytas
they're not water in Illinois. You know what I mean? Like, is there. There's water around Seoul?
- [31:22]
Moses Hacmon
Was that like a selling point? Is that why you asked?
- [31:24]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, well, yeah.
- [31:26]
Moses Hacmon
Okay. I just didn't know why you were asking.
- [31:29]
Trisha Paytas
Everyone's, like, looking at me like I'm crazy. Yes, There is water around Seoul. Yes. Okay. Excited. Well, how was your weekend and what did you do? I haven't seen. I wanted to ask you questions when you come in, but there's so much happening because you have a Twilight shirt on. Oh, any. Any significance or you're just like, I like this shirt.
- [31:50]
Moses Hacmon
Actually just saw Kristen Stewart at con and she's been on my mind. So I was like, well, yes.
- [31:56]
Trisha Paytas
Love her.
- [31:56]
Moses Hacmon
And my weekend. My weekend was pretty boring because it's just like. Like a constant loop of, like, house things, which you guys did try to warn me. There's a lot, but damn. It's just like, so many tasks. So many tasks. But I think I am almost done. It was my cousin's birthday. I went to, like, a arcade kind of thing. It was kind of like Dave and
- [32:17]
Trisha Paytas
Buster's tease, Was it not Dave and Busters. What was it?
- [32:20]
Moses Hacmon
It's called Round one. I know.
- [32:22]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I never heard of it.
- [32:23]
Moses Hacmon
Me either. I guess it's. It's on the east coast and they're coming to the west coast, I suppose. But I was really tired and didn't want to go. But I've kind of felt bad because when my cousin, she's 22 now, but when she was like a newborn, I did drop her on her head. I was like 11.
- [32:41]
Trisha Paytas
What'd you do? How'd you pick her up?
- [32:42]
Moses Hacmon
Well, I was just holding her, like, holding her up on the floor in our kitchen. And then I didn't know babies because that was like the first baby I've ever seen.
- [32:50]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
- [32:51]
Moses Hacmon
So I didn't know babies, like, can't sit up on their own. So I just, like, left her there to sit and then she fell backward.
- [32:56]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my.
- [32:57]
Moses Hacmon
She whacked her head. She's okay. No, but she's a little quirky, so I do feel a little responsible. I do feel a little responsible.
- [33:05]
Trisha Paytas
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- [34:19]
Moses Hacmon
She was kind of big. I mean, definitely under a year for sure. Because.
- [34:22]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, yeah, but they're resilient at that age.
- [34:25]
Moses Hacmon
I remember she cried and I cried, and then it was a whole to do, but she like really wanted me and Darian to go, even though I was kind of tired. So I'm like, you know what? I did drop you in your head. So I'll be there.
- [34:36]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that's why. That's why you brought up. I was like, wait, why did you think, okay, got it.
- [34:39]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And I don't. I. Clearly she doesn't remember. She never brings it up. But. But I think about it.
- [34:44]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. You're like, well, let me. Never mind. Lots of birthdays. Jimmy Wetzel had a birthday. Happy birthday. Jimmy Wetzel, our editor. He had a birthday.
- [34:51]
Oscar
I had to go outside to check on a fire. Everything's fine. Everything is fine.
- [34:58]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my gosh. I know. I said, moses are so hot. So much smoke in the air. And I'm like, Oscar just went out there too, to move his car. I was like, did you see these? Oh, no.
- [35:04]
Moses Hacmon
No.
- [35:05]
Trisha Paytas
Oblivious to the world ending. I was like, wait, what? My sister saw the alert and then I got scared. But I think everything's fine. I think it's being contained. I think there's water being sent over. So that's good. All right, we're back. And your weekend. And that's.
- [35:22]
Moses Hacmon
That's that. That's that.
- [35:23]
Trisha Paytas
All right. We had. Yeah, we had a chill weekend to a park. You know, there is a lot of birthday parties in a park.
- [35:29]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, I didn't know that.
- [35:31]
Trisha Paytas
That makes sense. That's kind of a good place to do it. It's open, people can play.
- [35:35]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And then I free for the most part. Right. So like, you have to do like A rental. So that's big, right?
- [35:40]
Trisha Paytas
Even those indoor, part indoor, like playgrounds charge like $1,000, like a portion of them. And I'm like, dang, that's actually expensive. It is so smart to go to a park. I guess it's smart. But also there's a lot of parties. There was like, I think I told you, there was like a baseball one set up since we got there at like 8:30am and then we left at like 11:30am and it was still there. And no one came to touch it. And there was like chunks. There was big waters that were unopened, holding it down, and plates and forks. And no one came. So I was like, are they just, like reserving it for later or why would it be there for four hours? And no one touched this baseball party? I guess.
- [36:13]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, they were just claiming their space. You gotta get there early, I would assume.
- [36:16]
Trisha Paytas
That's so funny because there was like four other ones and every table was taken. I'm surprised no one took over that. And just like, we're gonna take this table too. It was very complicated. It was very much. Remember that little girl came in, yelled, if you're here for the party, the cake's about to be cut. I was like, girl, we're not with this party. And she kept yelling at us. And we're like, in this little, like, basketball court area. I was like, but she was a child. So I was like. I said, okay, thank you. Like, I don't like. What do you say to that? She kept like, being like, no, you need to come now. And I was like, like, I think we talked about before on Hot Topics, but are you like, okay, I think we talked about it because this is like something I see on Tik Tok and Tik Tok is divided on it, but I'm pretty sure we talked about it about last. Again, if there is. If you're playing with the kids in the party and then they're like, okay, we're about to go cut the cake. Which we had seen. Everyone was screaming to go do, like, we're about to cut the cake. If you're with the Elisa party. And we're like, okay, kids. And kids, like, kids are playing with other kids that are not in at with this party. Should they be allowed to go over and eat the cake too? That's what. That's what happened. Tick tock saying is like, no, there should be cake for everybody. But what if there was a lot of kids? There was four parties. I bet this park had 40 kids. There yesterday. Usually we go to park, there's like five kids. This was like 40 kids at this park. Four different parties. But let's say each. Each party had like 10 kids or something. And, like, our kids weren't in our. We're obviously not with a party. Can they go over and just have cake with them?
- [37:33]
Moses Hacmon
I guess circumstantial. If there's enough cake. Like, if I only have enough. If I have. If I bought a cake and it's only enough for, like, the 10 kids I invited, then that's like, you say, no, but like, sorry, sorry, sorry, Judy. I ran out.
- [37:47]
Trisha Paytas
Where are the parents? That's what TikTok is saying. They're, like, divided. I see this a lot. I see when people be like, no, if my kids eating. Every kid's eating. Just make those slices smaller. The other person said, like, what you were saying, like, if there's only enough for 10, it should be on the parent to be like, oh, no, that's not our cake. We'll get some, like, after. Or something like that. Like, we can get, you know, whatever. So people are very divided about these things on the Internet. I don't know.
- [38:07]
Oscar
I mean, the main thing is being nice to the kids. That's all you know, But.
- [38:10]
Trisha Paytas
But like, you're saying, okay, what if you just bought a cake for 10 people, right?
- [38:13]
Oscar
If you, sorry, you ran out of cake, do you want some chips or juice box? You know, like, it's all about just how do you handle the situation. But if a kid actually came up, because there's a few steps before the kid comes up to you to ask for a cake, because like you said, they're their own parents. They're not part of the party, so. But you're not supposed to bring a cake. There'll be enough to everyone in the park.
- [38:35]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that was 40 yesterday. That was so many kids.
- [38:37]
Oscar
But if One of those 40 kids made it to you and asking for a cake, I'll definitely give them a slice.
- [38:41]
Trisha Paytas
But then Ari was saying, she's a mom, too, and she was saying, well, you, like, should ask the parent if you can give cake. Because sometimes there's allergens to, like, eggs and milk and stuff like that that are in the cake. And then you're supposed to ask that parent. But if the parents not around, which a lot of these parents are not around, there is kids running everywhere. And I'm like, where are all the parents? I was on slide duty. I stand up there. I stand up there where my kids are because they, like, to do a bit little, like, loops around. They do, like, 40 slide runs. So they'll go down the slide, loop around 40. So I'm like, I'm mostly there for Elvis because also, they're kind of high up and they're. You know what I don't like about parks is they. You know how they have like, those little, like, poles. There's, like, fire poles that you can, like, slide down. I mean, I guess it's, like, meant for older kids, but I get a little, like, nervous, so I stand up there because I, like, Elvis could, like, just look over it. They could, like, fall off. You know, like little kids in general. Because it's, like, right next to the slides. Like, the slide. You know what I'm talking about? The slides, like, right here. And then there's just open environment poles,
- [39:28]
Oscar
places that they just open. You can just fall off. Which it doesn't make sense because, like, when you have stairs and balconies up to code, you have to have a handrail. You can't have a place that a kid can just fall off from it.
- [39:40]
Trisha Paytas
There's so many at every park we go to.
- [39:41]
Oscar
Yeah, but I think the floors there. I don't know, it is an odd one. But I think they assume that somebody's watching.
- [39:47]
Trisha Paytas
It's high. It's high. But no one. There's never parents up there. Like, I always feel, like, kind of, like, weird. I'm like, maybe I shouldn't be up there. But I'm like, at the same time, I don't want them to fall all. But at the same time, there's kids who, like, push their way into the, you know, the slide, too. So I have to be up there. It's like, you know, the older kids and stuff like that, they try to push past, like, Elvis or Malibu. Like, oh, wait your turn. And then I try to look sometimes because some of the one kid did, they, like, they, like, jumped over Malibu. And I was just like, where are these parents? Like, literally, where are they? They were, like, nowhere to be found. And I'm like. And they're pretty young. I mean, they are, like six or seven. They're not, like, that old. But it's like, where are they at? And I, like, look around because, you know, you don't want to, like, yell at someone's kid. But I will be like, hey, you know, you gotta, like, wait your turn. You could sometimes. I will. Girls, wait. But if it's like, if someone just jumped over them, then I'm gonna be like, okay, well, wait your Turn, but. Yeah, but they're never anywhere to be found, those parents. So I don't know. We should put B roll of me running. I was racing. Oh, usually Moses does the racing.
- [40:38]
Oscar
If Malibu and I. I filmed it on your phone.
- [40:41]
Trisha Paytas
I haven't even watched it. Yeah, I'm scared to see, but I was, you know, at first, I was trying to be like, oh, I'll let Malibu win. She smoked me.
- [40:48]
Oscar
She was so fast. She's so fast.
- [40:51]
Trisha Paytas
I was like. I literally was trying to keep up. I can't even imagine how I was running. I haven't ran in spin lever in my life and I Since hacks.
- [40:58]
Moses Hacmon
Did I run an amazing Race?
- [41:01]
Trisha Paytas
I did.
- [41:01]
Moses Hacmon
Yes.
- [41:02]
Oscar
You guys are sprinting the whole time. You're sprinting from one place to the car.
- [41:06]
Moses Hacmon
Did you watch your own episode?
- [41:08]
Trisha Paytas
We actually re watched it yesterday because we were watching. Hacks were catching up on it, and me running down to get that first clue. Oh, my God, my boobs, my belly. Everything was just flopping everywhere. I was like, what the hell was happening in this? Like, my boobs are out, like, everything. Or maybe when we were watching it, maybe I noticed. I was like, oh, my gosh. It was. Was. Oh, yeah, I guess I did run in that seat. My running is coming back. I ran out the park yesterday. I was running everywhere. I felt good. I felt like, you know, my energy back a little bit. I usually like to hang out with Aquaman, you know, either at the swings or sitting on the bench, but I was like, you know what? I'm gonna run.
- [41:40]
Moses Hacmon
Maybe we'll be running those marathons with Harry Styles at some point.
- [41:44]
Trisha Paytas
Harry Styles?
- [41:45]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, he's like a marathon runner.
- [41:47]
Oscar
He's always outside walking or running.
- [41:51]
Trisha Paytas
I didn't know this. Oh, okay. Well, I would love to. I'm going to London soon. What was his deal over the weekend? He had.
- [41:57]
Moses Hacmon
He's in Amsterdam right now. He started his. One of his residencies, I guess.
- [42:02]
Trisha Paytas
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- [44:47]
Moses Hacmon
Technically, yeah. Because he's not. He's going to one city, staying there for a while, and then making the rounds a little bit. It's going to New York. But, yeah, his tour kicked off kind of controversial, which was interesting.
- [44:58]
Trisha Paytas
That's what I'm saying. What was the hot top? I kept seeing it everywhere. And what was the Me too?
- [45:01]
Moses Hacmon
And I couldn't tell if it was because I kept liking the tweets. I'm like, oh, like this. I'll save it and then come back to it later. And then that's all I kept seeing. So I don't know if, like, it's actually like, does Harry Styles have one foot in the Kia Asylum? Or. It was. I just like seeing this over and over again.
- [45:17]
Trisha Paytas
Like, he's flopping.
- [45:19]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, he kind of. Because now people are saying, like, if a song isn't doing well, it's, oh, this is his aperture.
- [45:27]
Trisha Paytas
Like, this was Aperture.
- [45:29]
Moses Hacmon
Aperture is the Harry Styles lead single from his latest album, Kind of like came in. So now, like, if a song isn't doing well for someone, like, if it's doing great, it's like, oh, this is her espresso. But if it's flopping, like, oh, this is her aperture. You know what I mean?
- [45:43]
Trisha Paytas
And everyone's like, what's aperture? I guess that's why it's popping. Damn.
- [45:48]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And then he released a new music video where he was, like, dancing sexily like, a week. A week or two ago.
- [45:56]
Trisha Paytas
I did see that. Yeah.
- [45:57]
Moses Hacmon
No one really moved for that either.
- [45:58]
Trisha Paytas
People were hating it. They were like, what is this? I was like, wait, I. I thought we loved Harry Styles.
- [46:03]
Moses Hacmon
No, it really was a huge shift. And then, yeah, he kicked off his tour, and the main criticism I saw kind of right off the bat was this. The stage is humongous, and it's a stage that's kind of like a grid, and it's a really long catwalk that, like, goes along in a square, but there's points where it goes, like, up on an incline, and the incline is so high that, like, if you bought a pit ticket, you're obstructed by the huge hill that's in front of You. So it blocks their view. Yeah. And obviously, like, the. Even before the tour started, like, when he released tickets, the tickets were already, like, really insanely priced. Like, they were about a thousand dollars. And he had dynamic pricing turned on. So that means it, like, fluctuates based on demand. So people were already, like, really pressed. VIP was supposed to come with this, like, merch kit, as all vip, most VIP bundles do for artists. But people were upset because. Because it was, like, a sample of pleasing nail polish. His nail polish line and.
- [47:02]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, just like, promotion for himself.
- [47:05]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. So people weren't happy with, like, the merch bundles, especially at that high of a price. And then to get, like, Obstructed View and, like, you paid pit pay for Pitt. And also, he's only doing, like, these little residencies, so people are having to fly out. Like, my manager is flying to Amsterdam. She loves Harry.
- [47:20]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
- [47:20]
Moses Hacmon
So she's flying to Amsterdam to see him.
- [47:23]
Trisha Paytas
Not worth it, girl. Right. That's the consensus. Oh, she's there.
- [47:27]
Moses Hacmon
That she's going later this week. Tickets. She bought the. Yeah, she booked a hotel that traveled, bought her Harry tickets because she loves them. And so people are, like, paying to travel and stay.
- [47:40]
Trisha Paytas
Okay.
- [47:40]
Moses Hacmon
And also, the tickets are expensive, so people weren't happy that, like, they didn't. They come and then it's like, Obstructed View. They're not really seeing it the whole time. And then the big criticism I saw, too, was like, it's a huge. He's playing stadiums, basically, and it's a huge stage, but it's like, just him for most of the time. So, like, the stage looks cool. Like, it lights up and stuff, but it's empty a lot because he's kind
- [48:06]
Trisha Paytas
of just no dancers.
- [48:07]
Moses Hacmon
He has, like, a couple backup dancers. It's giving very heirs to Trish. Like, he has, like, two.
- [48:11]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I was like, two screens, like, two, four. So two is crazy. Two is giving, like, club. Okay.
- [48:18]
Moses Hacmon
That's kind of the main criticism is that, like, the production value isn't really matching. Like a stadium show.
- [48:25]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [48:26]
Moses Hacmon
Where, like, you know, like a Taylor Swift or, like, Beyonce. Like, the women who are putting on stadium tours are, like, making it so immersive. And, like, Beyonce is freaking riding around on a car like a Cadillac.
- [48:41]
Trisha Paytas
Wasn't Katy Perry doing a butterfly? Everyone's flying around, flying around.
- [48:45]
Moses Hacmon
Harry's just. He. He sprints. He literally sprints and does laps around the stage, which is kind of impressive, I guess.
- [48:51]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I. But, you know, men do have to do. I think all people Who? All the guys who do stadium tours, like Drake, Kanye, the weekend. Like, I feel like they all kind of just.
- [48:59]
Moses Hacmon
Well, even the weekend. Like, people were saying, well, because Harry says, like, about 20 songs and that people were like, well, for male artists, the weekend set is 39 songs.
- [49:08]
Trisha Paytas
So at least his 39.
- [49:10]
Moses Hacmon
Because it's like a stadium. It's more expensive. So at least people are making it, like, longer. So as for. So to compare to another male artist, it'd be like the Weeknd, who. Who, yeah, is at least doing more production in, like, a longer set. And then. But I do see fans who are like, still thinking it was great that, you know, he talks a lot, he performed well. But I think a lot of those fans are the ones that, like, aren't standing in VIP and, like, have seeds.
- [49:35]
Trisha Paytas
They can see the view.
- [49:36]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [49:37]
Trisha Paytas
Do people like talking at a show?
- [49:39]
Moses Hacmon
I love when artists talk on the show. Like, I get kind of sad when it just goes song to song to song.
- [49:43]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Yeah.
- [49:44]
Moses Hacmon
Because I feel like that's why I'm there, like, obviously to hear and see the performances. But I think it's fun when, like, you have those, like, moments that make it unique. Because really it's the talking, like, the little exchanges that, like, make each show unique.
- [49:58]
Trisha Paytas
And yes, it's different.
- [49:59]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. Yeah.
- [50:00]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. I thought so too. Like, I love. Like, I grew up, obviously, I grew up going, like, Donny has been like, Dolly and they talk a lot. But then, like, some people don't like talking at all. It was this one person at my church missed that. Like, she talked too much. Because I remember San Francisco and like, like, yum. I do, like 10 songs, right? But, like, I talk a lot. So, like, I usually try to do like a 90 minute show, but he's like, all she did was talk. And I was like, wait. I thought, like, we love to talk. Especially because I like, it's like doing a podcast. Like, I thought we loved the talking. And then I guess I just saw one person saying they, like, hated the talk. But then I went, like we said, went to Lily Allen. She didn't talk at all. And I kind of like, I did like that. Although some people complain it was too short because it's like a 50, 55 minute set. But I kind of liked it because it was like a story. So I don't know. I didn't know what people liked if they did like it. So they do like that he's talking.
- [50:42]
Moses Hacmon
I think so. I think that's kind of the point of it for me at Least. And also kind of similar, though, because, like, my. I mean, it wasn't my first concert, but, like, the concerts I remember the most, like, vividly are like the Taylor Swift concerts. And she's very much like, her thing is she has these breaks where she talks and she kind of, like, schedules it into the concert, but, like, the conversation is, like, pretty unique. Especially when she was younger, she was very much like a riffer, just kind of talking.
- [51:09]
Trisha Paytas
Not the same at every show, not
- [51:10]
Moses Hacmon
the same in every show. And there's always, like, a little bit different. And I would see, like, the same show, like, four nights in a row, but it was, like, different every time because she was talking a lot.
- [51:18]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, there's always, like, a beat. Like, for mine, I'd be like, before sad boy. Like, my mental health talk. Would it always be something different? Yeah, sometimes, like, post.
- [51:25]
Moses Hacmon
So similar.
- [51:26]
Trisha Paytas
We really are eras. The eras of Trish may continue soon. We are very similar. I take all my notes from her. Okay, that's good to know. I need to know because I'm not a concert goer, so I do, like, need to know if people like the talking. Like, Britney Spears would, like, talk very little at her residency, but when she did, I loved it.
- [51:42]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, same with Cat's Eye, though. Like, when I saw Cat's Eye, they obviously, like, scheduled in when they would talk, and they, like, Sophia would always be the first one to talk, and then it would go through all the six at the time. And that's what kind of made it fun because they had, like. You got to see their personalities, and like, they each. I don't know, it was like each time they spoke and I saw them twice, so each time was different. And, like, they made different jokes, and it was like a key. It felt like. Right.
- [52:07]
Trisha Paytas
Like a little party. Always thought that, too. Okay, good. That's good to know. Because I was like. I was, like, singing my London shows 10 songs, and you said 39 songs for the weekend. I was like, oh, my gosh. I'm like, maybe I should put more in there. But sometimes I even think I. I shorten my songs on my tour sometimes because I think, like, nobody wants to hear me sing for three minutes straight. They only want, like, you know, two minutes of me singing or something. But I guess. I guess if you're a singer, people want to hear the full song.
- [52:28]
Moses Hacmon
And I think expectations vary based on, like, venue. I think when you go to a stadium tour, which is so expensive, I mean, all tours right now, as we see with Blue Dot Fever striking down all these artists. So real concerts and live music is expensive. But I think especially if you're going to a stadium and you're paying $1,000 and I think post eras tour, post like renaissance for Beyonce, like you, your expectations have kind of shifted as far as like what you expect from live music at that price point at a stadium show.
- [53:01]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [53:01]
Moses Hacmon
So same with the weekend. Like the weekend puts on a really good show. Every clip I've seen, like the production is crazy. Crazy.
- [53:06]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that's true. I don't know why I said the weekend in that category of Kanye and Drake. So sorry to the weekend. Love you, Abel. You know I'm your number one fan. And he does, he does have a. But it's. It's like less. Oh no, he has dancers. I was gonna say he's like less than. Yeah, you're right.
- [53:17]
Moses Hacmon
Really crazy.
- [53:18]
Trisha Paytas
Just kidding. I don't know why I said that. We love. I did love it. I didn't get to see it. He was on like a three year tour.
- [53:22]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, he. I think, dare I say, even this year he was still doing that show.
- [53:26]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I love that. Love to go see him. Missed it. We missed that Milovato shoes here Saturday night.
- [53:31]
Moses Hacmon
I really wanted to go. I was so tired. But I'm so sad. I miss her and Adela. Like that show I was so excited for.
- [53:39]
Trisha Paytas
I just did not have it in me.
- [53:40]
Moses Hacmon
I didn't. But I loved all the clips. Everyone was freaking there.
- [53:43]
Trisha Paytas
Everybody was there. She looks so good. She like just. She always does. She do different songs each. Each show.
- [53:49]
Moses Hacmon
She has like her, her set and then there's like, she'll do a couple of different throwbacks like of her older catalog. She'll do a couple different ones that she chooses from which is that again, anything to make it like unique each time. I think think is fun.
- [54:01]
Trisha Paytas
I do think that's fun. Yeah. Especially like you said, so many people go to like the same show so to have something a little different.
- [54:06]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. But the girls were not happy with Harry. It's again, very mixed bag. I would say the most stuff I saw was pretty critical. But I think again, your experience varies versus like if you were already in, you know, Europe and then you got a ticket to CM and you had a seat versus like if you flew out to Amsterdam, you may plan you traveled. You got the VIP package. Like you were expecting something more. Yeah. And then it was just like Harry having fun singing.
- [54:35]
Trisha Paytas
But you should ask your manager when she comes back if she enjoyed it.
- [54:38]
Moses Hacmon
Oh yeah, she's very. She Was very mixed. But she also loves the opener. She loves Robin, so that's why they sold her. She loves both.
- [54:45]
Trisha Paytas
But I guess, like, if you're a super fan, you're just happy to be in the presence. Like, I'm. I'm a super fan of, like, Daniels. I do think he put on a good show, but. But, like, I am just sometimes happy just to see him or even actually Michael Jackson, since he's, like, trending all over my page right now. Like, even when I went to London to see Michael Jackson when I was like, 13, he. They kind of. They did kind of pitch it as he was performing at this show, but it was just a bunch of Michael Jackson impersonators. And he came out at the end for, like, 20 seconds. But I remember being, like, gagged. I was like, that was worth it. That was everything because I got to see him for, like, 20 seconds. So I feel like if you're a super fan, maybe sometimes just being in the presence, you're like, loved it.
- [55:20]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. It's very, like, manage your expectations, I guess.
- [55:23]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [55:24]
Moses Hacmon
Because if you go in, I think the problem is, like, you can also, like, see in on some ticket sites, like, where when you buy your seat, like, what the stage will look like. So, yeah, you just like, oh, like, I'm gonna have the perfect seat. I'm like, I'm gonna be able to be so close. I'm gonna be making eye contact or whatever. But then like, oh, there's a giant hill in front of me that he just built.
- [55:45]
Trisha Paytas
Should tell you that because sometimes they tell you, like, obstructed view or something and not.
- [55:49]
Moses Hacmon
And you know what you're getting when you go into it. But yeah, I think that's weird. You buy pit the highest price point. You thought you were going to see him the whole time, and then, yeah, ended up being obstructed.
- [55:59]
Trisha Paytas
That was so weird because I also feel like he is, like an audience interaction person. Why would he want a big in the middle?
- [56:04]
Moses Hacmon
Just for, I guess, the gag of the cardio. Because he really does run his little apps.
- [56:07]
Trisha Paytas
But okay, well, you could just run your little lapse to the people and back and forth. Give him a high five, run back and high five again. Like, you can still run the laps. He's okay. Do you think also maybe people are now they're over him because he's engaged?
- [56:21]
Moses Hacmon
I. I feel like maybe that also has something to do with it. Harry fatigue was kind of happening leading into the new album. At first, when they announced that everyone was seated and Ready? I think Aperture didn't, like, really hit.
- [56:34]
Trisha Paytas
It's a horrible name because what does it mean? Or does it mean something culturally?
- [56:38]
Moses Hacmon
It's like an actual word about light.
- [56:39]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but nobody knows that.
- [56:41]
Moses Hacmon
Why would you call it photography or something?
- [56:44]
Trisha Paytas
Okay,
- [56:47]
Oscar
you have the iris is.
- [56:48]
Trisha Paytas
Oh.
- [56:48]
Oscar
And you can control how much light.
- [56:50]
Trisha Paytas
That's the target. That's the target audience right there for Aperture. Most like, I love Aperture.
- [56:55]
Oscar
Maybe he saw that APAT was such a big song. It was like, what's close to it?
- [56:58]
Trisha Paytas
Is that how you say it? Ap.
- [56:59]
Oscar
It's apt.
- [57:00]
Trisha Paytas
Ap. Ah. They love a song. They love that song.
- [57:06]
Moses Hacmon
And the kids are streaming Aperture.
- [57:08]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. No, they're not. It doesn't even come on the playlist. The loop loop, which is crazy because, like, One Direction was so catchy. Why doesn't he just do those songs, like, run it back?
- [57:18]
Moses Hacmon
Even his, like, other solo albums did very well. Yeah, like, he has so many hits. This one too. He, like, dropped it and did, like, no promo. He did like one Instagram post when the album came out, and then that was kind of it. So people have been questioning, like, is his heart even, like, really in this one? No, because, yeah, like, he did snl, like, the week before the album came out. The album came out. He didn't really do a lot of press. He did a couple instruments. He did. Yeah, that one Instagram post and then that was kind of it. So, yeah, it's.
- [57:49]
Oscar
Does he have any obligations to release an album to someone, you know, like for his label?
- [57:55]
Moses Hacmon
I don't even think so because he really took his time with this one and he's talked about before, like, being in a place where, like, if he only plays music for his, like, his niece, like, he's happy because obviously he's kind of done it all career wise between, like, One Direction and solo stuff. And he won the freaking album of the year Grammy. So. So he. I. He's talked about feeling very fulfilled and even if, like, no one comes, he's, you know, he's good. But yeah, stadium tour.
- [58:22]
Trisha Paytas
Put up some bussy in it.
- [58:23]
Oscar
Maybe he's just doing it for himself. Like, this is the music he wants to do.
- [58:27]
Trisha Paytas
You think he loves it?
- [58:28]
Moses Hacmon
Maybe.
- [58:29]
Trisha Paytas
Maybe he loves an Aperture.
- [58:30]
Oscar
Yeah, I mean, he seems to be the main person that loves it.
- [58:33]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, maybe that was. That's me with my music career up until my Sarangh. But all my other ones, that was that definitely for me.
- [58:41]
Moses Hacmon
No, you have your apertures now. You have your espresso.
- [58:43]
Trisha Paytas
Espresso. This is my Espresso. I definitely had some apertures, for sure.
- [58:48]
Moses Hacmon
I still have a soft spot for Harry, though. I think he's a sweetie, at least. And I like his style. He kind of gives me male Emma Chamberlain when it comes to his style. And it does sit.
- [58:57]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that makes sense, actually.
- [58:58]
Moses Hacmon
A little quirky in the color blocking and stuff.
- [59:01]
Trisha Paytas
Have they ever collabed Emma Chamberlain?
- [59:04]
Moses Hacmon
I honestly don't think so.
- [59:05]
Trisha Paytas
No. No YouTube video. Because he does YouTubes and stuff like that with people. Right?
- [59:08]
Moses Hacmon
I mean, royal core. But that's why Royal Court was kind of gaggy. Because mean.
- [59:11]
Trisha Paytas
Or does he not do it?
- [59:12]
Moses Hacmon
He doesn't really do promo. He did SNL in Royal Court and he called it a day, probably.
- [59:16]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna do this one. I mean, I kind of like that. I guess I won't be seeing him in London. I thought, oh, maybe I'll see him over there. But I guess he's not over there. All right. Not that clap. I. I don't. I kind of indifferent to him. He seems nice.
- [59:28]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And I like Zoe Kravitz.
- [59:30]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Love that.
- [59:30]
Moses Hacmon
She was there for open show with his mom. Pretty much solidifying that. Yeah, they're engaged, but.
- [59:38]
Trisha Paytas
But it's confirmed.
- [59:40]
Moses Hacmon
They never said but. Like she got the ring. She's there front row with his mom.
- [59:45]
Trisha Paytas
Cute.
- [59:45]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [59:46]
Trisha Paytas
How old is he again? He's in his 30s.
- [59:47]
Moses Hacmon
He's my age. 33.
- [59:49]
Trisha Paytas
They. I always think of them as like kids. They do a Run Direction reunion tour.
- [59:54]
Moses Hacmon
They've kind of talked about it. I mean, Liam. No, not Liam. Louie and Zayn were going to do their thing, then they had a falling out. Nile is kind of cool with everybody.
- [60:04]
Trisha Paytas
He's the Irish.
- [60:05]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, he's your favorite.
- [60:06]
Trisha Paytas
I love him. I do love him on the Voice.
- [60:08]
Moses Hacmon
I actually really do love Nyla. He's like a little sweetie.
- [60:10]
Trisha Paytas
You think he's in the uk? I am doing a One Direction song at my UK show. I have a special video here.
- [60:16]
Moses Hacmon
A couple in LA a couple weeks ago. Oh, he's going on tour too.
- [60:21]
Trisha Paytas
Let me know. I have no pre recorded track. So, Niall, if you want to just jump in on one, you can do it because it's live with the band. So just go ahead.
- [60:28]
Moses Hacmon
He's in the UK and in September.
- [60:31]
Trisha Paytas
But where's he live? That's a good question.
- [60:33]
Moses Hacmon
He might be based in la.
- [60:36]
Trisha Paytas
Is he still in the Voice? Who watches that show anymore? Cuz he's off of it now. No one watches it. Do you know it's like Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani. I don't know if we're all is
- [60:46]
Moses Hacmon
coming back to the Voice, I think, but.
- [60:49]
Trisha Paytas
What I thought she quit her show.
- [60:51]
Moses Hacmon
She did quit her talk show, but I think she's doing the Voice again.
- [60:56]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, okay.
- [60:59]
Moses Hacmon
But I haven't been seated for the Voice in quite some time.
- [61:03]
Trisha Paytas
It's like they're all good. You know, it's like we kind of get it. They're all good singers, but like, no.
- [61:08]
Moses Hacmon
No star. No one has had the song saranghes.
- [61:14]
Trisha Paytas
No K pop. That's why it's all like country. It's like country. And you know what? Adam Levine. It's like everyone on there does sound like a Blake shelton or maroon 5. Like there's no in between and you're just kinda like no one's listening to this music. I don't know if this is our. You're right. There hasn't been. I don't know if that's the speed of it. Interesting. If you love shopping and love finding a good deal, rare finds, collectibles and more, whatnot has you covered. I am so happy for today's sponsor whatnot. Oh my gosh. This is the best of all your favorite worlds. It's shopping meets livestreaming meets social media. It is so much fun. And if you love the thrill of an auction, it's live auctions happening on all your favorite categories. You can choose from so many. They have a curated for you when you make your profile. They have bags, accessories, a Y2K section plus size section. So many categories to choose from and it is so fun to just be on there all day. And if you are someone who likes to window shop or online shop, this is so perfect for you because constantly there are people live streaming and selling hard to find items. Rare finds. I bought a bag this morning, this yellow butter bag and I was super excited to win the auction. I also bought this really cute butterfly top that was so y2k vibes and it was so excited when I want it as well. It is really fun to watch because it's all happening in real time. When I won the butterfly shawl, the seller was like, is this the real trash? Which is like super exciting. So it just combines everything you love. Like I said, live streaming, shopping and social media and whatnot. Oh, I'm just so happy they're sponsored his video because you guys really need to check them out. There's so many cool benefits when you join a whatnot. Whatnot is a live auction and you can swipe to Bid. You can chat, you can support small businesses, sellers, etc. Like I mentioned, I am such a person enthusiast so I love seeing different purses for sale. Just a really good, good prices as well. You can also buy toys for kids, sneakers, whatever you're into. There is something for everybody. So if you want to check out whatnot, please use my link or scan the QR code to get $15 off your first purchase anywhere on the app. So if you follow me on whatnot, user name trishp88 and use the links with the QR code, you will automatically entered to win $500 in whatnot credit. The winner will be picked in one month a day. Thank you so much to Whatnot for sponsoring this episode. Go over, check it out and I hope you guys find something you love on whatnot. This is one of my favorite things that I have seen in a long time. Absolutely love the app and a fan of it. So check it out for yourself. Thank you Whatnot for sponsoring today's episode.
- [63:32]
Moses Hacmon
But as you said earlier, the other hot topic that's kind of been all over Twitter is Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner.
- [63:39]
Trisha Paytas
And seeing that everywhere, and I'm kind
- [63:40]
Moses Hacmon
of like, well, the guy to me is okay. So earlier, a couple of days ago, Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi were photographed in Hawaii, like, on a romantic, like, beach date. And they had a bottle of rose.
- [63:55]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, Bob, Rose is everywhere. Everywhere. Wait, why? No, seriously, why? Because the guest, everyone was like, rose all day, everywhere we went. And I'm like, what is up with this? Is it the season? Actually, I have a picture. Remind me, son. Jimmy, Roses were hanging in the tree with pink umbrellas. And I was like, take my picture in front of this. Because I was like, what is happening? Like, why is this a thing? Like, what's up with the rose? Is it because of Rose from Blackpink? Like, why? Why is it making a comeback or a thing? Thing.
- [64:23]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, my God.
- [64:24]
Trisha Paytas
I've never heard of Rose until.
- [64:26]
Moses Hacmon
Never heard of Rose.
- [64:26]
Trisha Paytas
Well, not really. Not like this. Not like a thing. And why were you mentioning Rose?
- [64:31]
Moses Hacmon
Because Kendall Jenner was also drinking it with Jacob Elardi on the beat.
- [64:35]
Trisha Paytas
So weird. It's like, who's pushing it? Industry plant. Like, what? Someone has it. Probably a Jenner or something is gonna come out with Rose. Because, like, why is everyone pushing it all of a sudden?
- [64:46]
Moses Hacmon
It is kind of everywhere.
- [64:47]
Trisha Paytas
It's everywhere. Rose should have Rose and.
- [64:51]
Moses Hacmon
But the gag is okay. And also, Jacob had a surfboard in front of him, which implies that he was surfboarding. But the gag is he was supposed to be a judge at the Cannes Film Festival, but he dropped out. And it was confirmed through like Deadline, Variety, Page Six that he broke his foot. So he couldn't walk around the French Riviera because of his broken foot. So that's why he dropped out of the con film festival. But now he's surfing in Hawaii with Kendall Jenner. And that's like what happens to your friends foot?
- [65:18]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, he wasn't at the con film festival cuz he's con man. Cuz like what do you. Yes. Wearing condoms. We don't know. Oh my gosh. You sneaky little snake. He just tried to get out of it. He like, who cares about your poops? Ollie does. That's why Ollie's science backed Gut health lineup helps support your family's regularity. From daily probiotics to fiber gummies your kiddos will love. Find it all on olly.com that's o l l y dot com. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Spring just slid into your DMs. Grab that boho. Look for that rooftop dinner. Those sandals that can keep up with you. And hang some string lights to give your patio a glow up. Spring's calling. Ross, work your magic. Here's my doctor's note. At least you have to play up with the lie. This is my thing with lies. Right. Is when people don't follow through with them. Like you have to keep going with it. If you have an injured foot, you better be limping for like at least a couple months and be like, oh, there's that injured foot. You know what I mean? That's so weird when people don't go with it. So odd.
- [66:35]
Moses Hacmon
I know. Especially it was such a big public thing. It's an event that's literally happening the same time you're in Hawaii and then you're photographed like. Like surfing. That's kind of crazy.
- [66:43]
Trisha Paytas
So why didn't he want to go to this festival?
- [66:45]
Moses Hacmon
I guess just to keep a Kendall. That's kind of what it's giving. He just wants to chill out, catch a vibe.
- [66:50]
Trisha Paytas
Very me in 2013, when I didn't go to Two and a Half Men to hang out with a guy. I was like, oops, sorry, I have to hook up. I'm not going over here. I get that sometimes if that poo tang is good, you gotta get it, you know? God, Kendall, what the hell how does she get. I get it. She is beautiful. But like, like every single Hawkeye in the world is just flocking to her. Like the biggest, the baddest.
- [67:12]
Moses Hacmon
Like she's just that it girl. Maybe that 818, the 819tequila must be good.
- [67:17]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, that's what it is. Everyone's like, oh, is she a lesbian? It's like, no, she has all these hot guys. Why would she. Why would she settle down? I would never. That's so crazy. Yeah. Maybe Kendall being the ultimate baddie of the family. Kind of sneaky, huh? Right? Kind of snuck.
- [67:29]
Moses Hacmon
I'm low key about it.
- [67:31]
Trisha Paytas
Right?
- [67:31]
Moses Hacmon
Fairly low key.
- [67:33]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Well, you know,
- [67:36]
Moses Hacmon
I don't know about the Jacob Elordi, though. I mean, I'm kind of. Kendall used to be my least second least favorite. She's kind of climbing up the ranks as far as the car. Generous.
- [67:45]
Trisha Paytas
He. I get him mixed up with the guy on your shirt.
- [67:48]
Moses Hacmon
Robert Pattinson.
- [67:49]
Trisha Paytas
Because like they're kind of the same, right? They're in the same movies and stuff. Like the drama.
- [67:52]
Moses Hacmon
And Jacob boy is not in the drama.
- [67:55]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Who's in the drama? That one. That one is in the drama. Bright. Aren't they similar? You know what I'm talking about?
- [68:02]
Oscar
Oh, yeah, I could definitely switch between.
- [68:04]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they're like interchangeable. Same age, same time, same tall.
- [68:09]
Moses Hacmon
No, Jacob is so much younger. Robert's like almost 40 and Jacob's like 20s.
- [68:15]
Trisha Paytas
I thought he was 17.
- [68:17]
Moses Hacmon
Robert Pattinson. Yeah, he would love that forever.
- [68:21]
Trisha Paytas
How long have you been 17? He looks great.
- [68:25]
Moses Hacmon
Robert Pattinson.
- [68:26]
Trisha Paytas
No, the other one.
- [68:27]
Moses Hacmon
Jacob Elordi.
- [68:27]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, he looks great. This one looks a little like vampirey, right? Like in real life.
- [68:33]
Moses Hacmon
Kind of. I guess. I love our.
- [68:35]
Trisha Paytas
Maybe. Maybe the Ozempic craze face for Robert Pattinson.
- [68:40]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, he's just kind of a thin person.
- [68:42]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, okay.
- [68:42]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, she's not.
- [68:43]
Oscar
He just lost access to blood.
- [68:45]
Moses Hacmon
So yeah, there is something.
- [68:47]
Trisha Paytas
Right? Or we're getting that. This one's saying, am I getting it mixed up? Which one do I think is cute?
- [68:52]
Oscar
Well, at the time. Cuz Jacob Alordi wasn't around when we watched Twilight. So at the time.
- [68:58]
Trisha Paytas
But Jacob Lord was in the one. Yeah, he was that movie with the girl kissing Boo. Yes, you knew exactly. Gypsy Rose. Yeah, I was trying to think of her name. Or Joy. I was trying to think of her name.
- [69:11]
Moses Hacmon
She did play. Yes. Joey King Dip.
- [69:13]
Trisha Paytas
And now Joey King is like, oh, he was using me. Right? She was saying because they dated and she. Oh, he was using me to get close. Clout.
- [69:18]
Moses Hacmon
Joey King. They had a bad breakup when they were dating. Yeah.
- [69:21]
Trisha Paytas
You think he was using her? Because he was kind of not anybody at the time.
- [69:26]
Moses Hacmon
I don't know. You. I don't know. I know they had a messy breakup.
- [69:31]
Trisha Paytas
Specify your allegations.
- [69:33]
Moses Hacmon
I don't. I. Legally, I can't specify because I. I knew someone who was friends with Joey.
- [69:40]
Trisha Paytas
Oh.
- [69:40]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. So I don't know legally, how.
- [69:42]
Trisha Paytas
What can you give. What I heard is a great vibe.
- [69:45]
Moses Hacmon
Messy. Let's just say that I don't know what that means. Okay, well, bleep it, Jimmy. But, like.
- [69:51]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, okay, That's. Damn. I hope not. Well, that's why we get the ick from him. Maybe I didn't know all that information, but subconsciously. Well, you know, he was good in Weathering Heights, but I don't know about Euphoria with it. You know, I don't think he's that good this season. Right.
- [70:06]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, I don't think he's in the Emmy. He doesn't got much. Much to do in Euphoria. I suppose it. Besides to get a digit chopped off every episode.
- [70:14]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Someone said his penis is coming next.
- [70:16]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, that would be kind of tea.
- [70:18]
Trisha Paytas
That'd be crazy. Like, they're just slowly chopping off every. The thing I want to know any for is. Yeah, like, how many more things are, like, body parts? Is he gonna lose? And then hacks. I do want to know why she kept saying y' all in that episode. Do you think there's, like, a reason at the end? Because Ava did say a multiple times. Like, what she said y' all again, like, you know, do you think there's, like, a reasoning behind find it or no.
- [70:38]
Moses Hacmon
Maybe you can reach out to your friend Paul W. Downs, who's your oomphie,
- [70:42]
Trisha Paytas
and be like, he is my own fee. And he doesn't. He's looking so buff. Did you see him in, like, Men's Health?
- [70:47]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, he's ripped.
- [70:49]
Trisha Paytas
Isn't that crazy when it's, like, sneaky? Because it's, like. It's not like he does thirst traps on Instagram.
- [70:55]
Moses Hacmon
He's, like, a funny guy. So you just expect him to be, like, an average body, but then you're, like, funny, and then you take your shirt off and you're ripped. That's kind of. And that was kind of his thing in Broad City, too. Like, he was, like, muscular, not. He was, like, lean muscular. That makes sense. Like, he had abs and stuff, but he was lean. But now he's, like, ripped, like, muscular. Beefy, ripped. Yeah.
- [71:14]
Trisha Paytas
I always wonder why funny people, because, like, Jake Shane's doing that too now. And it's like, is that gonna hurt your funny? Yeah, he looks good. Damn. I was like, damn, that looks good. Oh, by the way, our Hacks cosplay is gonna be June 1st. My outfit will be done. And I was looking at yesterday, I was watching, and I was like, oh, there's so many good, like, Ava cosplays. I guess you might just do a sweater vest. But there were so many good ones. She had a really cool, like, tie on. She had like a sweater, like a yellow butter yellow sweater vest. Like, y. Yellow tie, looked really cool. I'm gonna do the Deborah, like, pink shade of pink sequins one in front of the Bellagio fountains in season three. So I think that's the one I'm gonna be. But there's so many good Ava ones. I don't know.
- [71:49]
Moses Hacmon
I know. I. I'm just seated for the bob like that bob.
- [71:53]
Trisha Paytas
You're gonna look good. Your Oompa Loompa one kind of fits with it. Or was it not red?
- [71:56]
Moses Hacmon
It was green.
- [71:58]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I have some too. I don't have one like that red
- [72:01]
Moses Hacmon
bob, but I feel like every time I wear bobs, something happens.
- [72:05]
Trisha Paytas
You look good with a bob. We get sassier with a Bob.
- [72:07]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. 100.
- [72:08]
Trisha Paytas
Did you watch lesbian episode?
- [72:10]
Moses Hacmon
I'm two behind. I know.
- [72:13]
Trisha Paytas
This episode is so good.
- [72:14]
Moses Hacmon
One behind on euphoria.
- [72:17]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, you don't watch this?
- [72:18]
Moses Hacmon
No, because I. We didn't have literally had no time.
- [72:21]
Trisha Paytas
I. I fear I may not be getting that guest star Emmy because hacks at least, obviously Caitlyn Olsen. But also Leslie Bibb was so good.
- [72:30]
Moses Hacmon
I did see a clip of her on Hacks. Yeah.
- [72:32]
Trisha Paytas
I was like, wait, I feel like I'm not gonna be not nominated in this category because they really crushed it.
- [72:39]
Moses Hacmon
It'll maybe be like White Lotus when they were all in the same category. Maybe you can at least get a nomination, you know?
- [72:44]
Trisha Paytas
Well, they did it. The year the dance mom won. There was like, four hacks. But I don't know if I. With Katya now with her cameo and Caitlyn Riley, I'm just like, damn.
- [72:53]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, team. What category would Katya be? Like, would she be actress or actor? Oh, has a drag queen been nominated? I mean, Katya out of drag, is he. But Katya in drag is like, she.
- [73:07]
Trisha Paytas
Maybe both. She sweeps like you could do a little bit of. That's so interesting. I wonder. And that's like, I guess in general Because Cola Scola won for oh Mary. What category did they win in?
- [73:21]
Moses Hacmon
That's a good question.
- [73:22]
Trisha Paytas
Like where does non binary fall?
- [73:24]
Moses Hacmon
And some award shows are trying to remove like gender. Yeah. Because also, I mean, Bella Ramsay from oh my God, why am I forgetting the last of us? The Pedro Pascal is non binary refers, but goes by they them. But they get put in the best
- [73:44]
Trisha Paytas
actress category and they don't have a problem with it.
- [73:47]
Moses Hacmon
No, they still like show up to the war shows and stuff, so.
- [73:52]
Trisha Paytas
Interesting. Yeah, it should be. It should be all put together.
- [73:57]
Moses Hacmon
Okay, so Cole Escola, they won for best performance by an actor in a leading role for oh Mary.
- [74:02]
Trisha Paytas
Okay.
- [74:03]
Moses Hacmon
Interesting.
- [74:04]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [74:04]
Moses Hacmon
And I guess usually they choose like what they submit as like.
- [74:08]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, so maybe they just.
- [74:10]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, okay, so yeah, that is interesting. So I guess Katya would have to choose.
- [74:16]
Trisha Paytas
Let us know, please.
- [74:18]
Moses Hacmon
Issue us a statement.
- [74:20]
Trisha Paytas
Somebody was trying to pit us against each other. So someone's like, c Trish, this is how a real cameo is in hacks. And I was like, oh my God. I was like, of course I'm not trying to compete with Katya. Like that's crazy. And it was so good. I was like, oh my gosh. So don't put us against each other. We're all happy to be nominated.
- [74:36]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. No women against no beautiful voluptuous blonde women against another blonde beautiful voluptuous woman like that.
- [74:42]
Trisha Paytas
Period. I love hacksam. Okay, well you catch up so we can goss about it.
- [74:48]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, and then back to Jacob Elordi. First, the followup was Jacob. Lordy. He was the driver on the double date with Kendall, Kylie and Timothy Chalamet.
- [74:57]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that was real.
- [74:58]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. De had photos of them on a double date.
- [75:01]
Trisha Paytas
No.
- [75:02]
Moses Hacmon
And Jacob was the driver. So really that foot ain't broken cuz he can put pedal to the metal. Babies.
- [75:07]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, he should have someone driving.
- [75:09]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, busted.
- [75:10]
Trisha Paytas
He probably saw like the Justin Bieber of it all where like he doesn't drive in the golf cart. And then people like, wow, how dare you drive? You know what I mean? It's funny, even at Disney, like we went to Disneyland. Like literally Moses said that too. Because I was like, oh, can I push the stroll? But then it's like you don't want to be like Millie Bobby Brown and be like, wow, Moses, like not pushing anything. And I was like, oh my God. Like it is crazy that people like just speculate anything. But he got caught, I guess with the broken foot up.
- [75:30]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [75:30]
Trisha Paytas
So there's pictures of Timothy and Jacob
- [75:33]
Moses Hacmon
and Kylie all in the car. Yeah. And it's funny because each of them have a different reaction. Like, Kylie is laughing because. Because she's a key.
- [75:42]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, she is.
- [75:43]
Moses Hacmon
Jacob and Kendall, like, panicking a little bit, and Timothy's just trying to, like, be hidden in the back.
- [75:47]
Trisha Paytas
So from the paparazzi. Like, they're seeing the paparazzi.
- [75:50]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, like, and now they looking. They're looking at the barrel of the lens because it's. The paparazzo was like, right in front of them, so.
- [75:57]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, this isn't the one that he yelled at.
- [75:59]
Moses Hacmon
No, this is the. Yeah, in the car. No, no, that's. That was a different situation. This is new.
- [76:04]
Trisha Paytas
So why is he surprised the paparazzi in the car if there was paparazzi in his face? Like, you're followed by paparazzi everywhere.
- [76:09]
Moses Hacmon
You just expect that you will be when you're with, like, two of the most famous girls in the world.
- [76:14]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And that guy's pretty famous too. The other one. Right, that guy.
- [76:19]
Moses Hacmon
I've heard of him before. Yeah, but can't compete with. Can't compete with.
- [76:22]
Trisha Paytas
Really, you think the. The generous paparazzi?
- [76:25]
Moses Hacmon
I think a Timothy paparazzi pick by himself, not worth that much. Wow. As far as, like, paparazzi, and I would say, like, tabloids and websites buying photos, like, the worth, the value of the photo photo, if a Jenna or Kardashian is in it, that has way more value than just Timothy by himself. Because usually it's like, okay, there he is.
- [76:48]
Trisha Paytas
Interesting.
- [76:49]
Moses Hacmon
But if he's with Kylie.
- [76:52]
Trisha Paytas
Where was this? Where what? Where were they?
- [76:53]
Moses Hacmon
They're in la. Let me see where exactly they were.
- [76:55]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. They were at a beach or what?
- [76:57]
Moses Hacmon
No, they were. They went out to dinner.
- [76:59]
Trisha Paytas
In a golf cart?
- [77:00]
Moses Hacmon
No, in a car. You got golf cart. You just brought up golf cart yourself.
- [77:05]
Trisha Paytas
Wait, I swear you said golf cart.
- [77:07]
Moses Hacmon
You said golf cart.
- [77:08]
Trisha Paytas
Thought golf cart.
- [77:09]
Oscar
No, cuz you're.
- [77:12]
Moses Hacmon
You said golf cart. You were like, if I'm driving the golf cart,
- [77:16]
Trisha Paytas
they were in a golf cart. Okay, so they're just driving a car in la.
- [77:20]
Moses Hacmon
Yes. They went out to dinner last night.
- [77:23]
Trisha Paytas
Do you know where? I need to know where.
- [77:26]
Oscar
We should. If the proponent people said they saw
- [77:27]
Trisha Paytas
like, Britney Spears at a restaurant and like Sherman El restaurant. We need to know, like, where they were at.
- [77:32]
Moses Hacmon
Like, let's see if it says.
- [77:36]
Trisha Paytas
I'm just so curious to know where, like, people go eat
- [77:41]
Oscar
wherever you go. They see your stories and the Four Seasons.
- [77:45]
Trisha Paytas
Westlake. Boiling crab. Are we doing boiling crab? Do we get confirmation on that? Yeah, for today. Oh, my God, I love boiling crap.
- [77:54]
Oscar
It's been so long.
- [77:55]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, when that paycheck hits, we're going to the boiling crab. Boiling.
- [78:00]
Moses Hacmon
Boiling. Boiling crab. No article says where they ate. Unfortunately, just leaving a restaurant in la.
- [78:06]
Trisha Paytas
Well, we'll assume boiling crab in Woodland Hills because Moses said they're eating where I'm at, so that's where we'll assume they left, which maybe they're close to Calabasas.
- [78:15]
Oscar
They were probably at Benihana having the Trish.
- [78:17]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, let's just make stuff. Maybe Jimmy said not to sidetrack because I want to get back to this. Jimmy said that at Benihana, he saw girls in eras of Trish shirts getting the Trish trio at a separate table.
- [78:28]
Oscar
I mean, I've seen so many tiktoks of people having. And that's very. And couples going on date night and all kind of stuff.
- [78:35]
Trisha Paytas
So maybe J was there while they're just leaving somewhere in LA together in a car. That's not a very good paparazzi picture. They're just, like, in a car. It could be anybody. How did you see? They're like. Was it clear?
- [78:45]
Moses Hacmon
Yes. It's kind like people compared it to that one, like, infamous photo from 2000. Yes. Britney. Paris Hilton. Yeah. Because it. It does kind of give. That
- [78:55]
Oscar
sounds orchestrated. So sounds.
- [78:58]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, you think someone tipped him off?
- [78:59]
Oscar
At least one person in the car called the paparazzi.
- [79:03]
Trisha Paytas
Or maybe someone in the restaurant. He thinks, like, Kylie did. Ky's like, I need this.
- [79:07]
Moses Hacmon
A little promo.
- [79:08]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, no, probably someone, like, in the restaurant was like, hey, they're here.
- [79:13]
Oscar
Yeah, I'm sure there's that connection. Usually.
- [79:17]
Trisha Paytas
Would you go up to Jacob Lordy if you saw him in public?
- [79:19]
Moses Hacmon
No, he'd probably yell at me.
- [79:21]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I get that vibe, too. When I saw at the Euphoria afterparty, we were right by his table, and I told Moses, come on, come this way. Because I, like, didn't want to be in his way. He was, like, sitting. Sitting down. I was like, come, come here. When we were about to run into Cindy Sweeney, I was like, let's just go the other way. Thank God we did. We ran into Hunter Schaefer, who was very sweet, and her whole table was like, hey.
- [79:38]
Moses Hacmon
I was like, hey, Queen.
- [79:39]
Trisha Paytas
Hey, girl.
- [79:39]
Moses Hacmon
Love that girl.
- [79:40]
Trisha Paytas
Jacob Lordy would never be like, hey. And I didn't want to either. I just wanted all the queens. Chloe, Hunter, I would decide I just wanted Sydney, too. But she was being, like, photographed by Vogue. I didn't want to be, like, in the picture I didn't want to look like, hey, I want to die.
- [79:53]
Moses Hacmon
Vogue publishes a photo that would have
- [79:55]
Trisha Paytas
been everything of me just crashing behind her. I was so close. I could have, hey, girl.
- [79:59]
Moses Hacmon
Remember when I screamed at you,
- [80:01]
Trisha Paytas
made you cry? What if she would remember me? You know, because you meet so many people on that show. I'm like, I wonder if she'd even know or remember me. Probably not. Maybe you always just wonder.
- [80:12]
Moses Hacmon
I think she would, considering you spent an hour.
- [80:15]
Trisha Paytas
Spent a couple hours.
- [80:16]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. Filming with her.
- [80:18]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, maybe. I guess.
- [80:19]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, my God. That is taking me out.
- [80:21]
Trisha Paytas
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- [82:52]
Moses Hacmon
last episode I was talking sweetly about Pete Davidson. Really putting myself out there and talking politics. Positive, positively about.
- [82:58]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, you don't want me to even speculate. You're like, yeah, we shouldn't speculate.
- [83:01]
Moses Hacmon
All right. I'm like, he has a mental health problem.
- [83:04]
Trisha Paytas
No, this isn't that. You know, this is when people are like no, you can't blame mental health on everything. Cuz you yeah, there's mental health problems and then there's also like being awful. You know what I mean? Like what? Like this pissed me off for sure. It made me so sad. Is it still up? Is her Tik Tok stop Elsie.
- [83:20]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, so his now ex, I suppose posted a tick tock talking about her experience raising her and Pete Davidson's child.
- [83:31]
Trisha Paytas
Five months old.
- [83:32]
Moses Hacmon
Five month old. And she posted about basically having to do everything on her own. And she talked about getting paparazzi while taking her daughter Scotty Rose out for a walk. And she made a joke about like how now she's gonna have to start leaving the house looking nicer because if now that she knows that there's gonna be paparazzi either. And she's talked about how now she has a baby to take care of. And this is what she's thinking about now. Like, she. It's hard for her to think about looking good because she has to figure out. She said, I have to work and make money. I'm doing it on my own, which is hard. And then she started liking comments pretty much confirming that she is having to, like, support her and her daughter on her own, which is kind of a gag because, I mean, yeah, there's where separation came pretty quickly. Like their breakup and, yeah. Their baby's only five months old.
- [84:25]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And she was like, imply the. The conversation. Like, it was like, basically being like, hopefully not financially. And then she was, like, liking all those. And what was. There was one other one too. Something with like, who leaves someone five months postpartum or something. Like, this is like, that's insane or something. And she, like, that comment doesn't look good. Well, he. He has an awful boyfriend, I think. I think we can all probably attest to that. Right? Because now we have confirmation. I always said that. I always said I'm like, if you leave someone in the first, like, few years of your child's life, like, short of abuse, of course, like, you're a weird. Especially a guy. Like, obviously it doesn't sound like it was mutual. It doesn't sound like she necessarily wanted it.
- [85:13]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. Because, yeah, the comments were, sorry, but not staying with your partner when they are postpartum is insanely lucid behavior. This is the most vulnerable time in a woman's life. And she commented, amen, sis.
- [85:23]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [85:23]
Moses Hacmon
And then another comment said, I hope you don't mean you're doing the financial part alone. That would be insane given the circumstances. And she replied to that comment and said, I am smiley face crazy.
- [85:35]
Trisha Paytas
And that is loser. I think that's the biggest loser behavior. Like, not financially or even financially, obviously, that should be a thing. But also, like, just physically being there for, like, the child. Like, how are you gonna break up? No, you're not gonna break up. Like, I don't care, like, what it is. You know what it is. A lot of guys, I see this on TikTok, get annoyed. I'm not saying this with them necessarily, but, like, if they can't have, like, sex or the woman doesn't give them attention because she's, like, taking care of the baby. Like, people like, divorce over that. Like, it's so insane. They're like, yeah, my husband, like, left me because, like, I wasn't giving him enough attention. I think in the Pamela Anderson one too, in the docum, she Talks about Tommy Lee, or I think Tommy says it where he says that Pam changed and no, it was no longer about him. Like she wasn't giving him any attention. And I'm like, why would you. Why would you get attention when also, like, also the mom, like pushing out the baby and the hormones and all stuff like that. Like she should be having the issues. Like, you need to get it together. It's fine if you have like postpartum as a man, I suppose, but like, you also need to be there to support the woman who's physically dealing with the postpartum structure stuff. Weird.
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Oscar
It's really bad because if, like most men, I think, don't understand what's happening and they only look at themselves. What's happening to them instead of understanding what's happening to the mom at that point. Cuz I saw something about like. Like, you know, like your wife just got the whole new brain. Not just. Yeah, new B. Like everything changes.
- [86:59]
Trisha Paytas
I always say that's like a lobotomy.
- [87:01]
Oscar
And for a guy to run away day a few months after the birth, not understanding what's happening and what's going on. Like, it's temporary, it's not permanent. And there might be issues and it might be whatever. Like, you have to, you have to help, like basically everything that's happening. If it's difficult, it means it's even more difficult for her and you need to be there to help.
- [87:21]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [87:22]
Oscar
With the situation.
- [87:23]
Trisha Paytas
I think guys, like, don't know how to handle it and they just like, leave. And guys can leave. Moms can't. If you think about that. I mean, obviously you can give your baby up for adoption, but most of the time they don't. Moms. I saw someone, I saw a lady on Tick Tock said hot take. But like, if we're divorcing, check. I'm not gonna be a single mom. Like, you're gonna take the baby and I'm gonna come visit it on the weekends. Because it's like. What do you mean? You can just leave the baby and just like, not see it except for on the weekends. Like, it is. It is weird how guys tend to
- [87:46]
Oscar
dip out and make the situation even worse.
- [87:50]
Trisha Paytas
You need. You need it. You need that relief. But I don't think guys know how to do that. But in Pete's situation, he has the financial means to. To hire a nanny, which doesn't sound like happening. Or hire some help for her because. Okay, maybe you can't take care of him because I guess like, being a new dad too Is different. So maybe it's hard for you to take care of your baby but get support. So you're. She's not doing it alone.
- [88:10]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. She also posted on her Instagram story and said, I'm currently trying to find an assistant slash mother's helper slash nanny type, basically right here in person right now. Apply here of qualified and serious only. Looking at responses with resumes paid, of course. And then she put her contact email.
- [88:24]
Trisha Paytas
No.
- [88:24]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, yeah.
- [88:28]
Trisha Paytas
Like, bare minimum. He should be doing that. Calling an agency. Calling an agency. Like, what do you mean? She's posting on social media like, I need help with my baby. Like, you're gonna. That's so insane. That means, like, she doesn't know, like, the resources or where to go because there's so many, like, celebrity agencies that have nannies. Like, oh, you can get a Kardashian and get all these things. But the fact that she's asking social media and she's doing it herself and vetting them herself.
- [88:50]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And then people did get a statement from a source close to Pete that said, Pete has made himself extremely available and has provided financial support. Pete is actually covering all Scotty's costs and more. He is hoping Elsie has good health and success for the sake of their daughter. So that report came.
- [89:08]
Trisha Paytas
If Moses, like, I wish you good health and success with your daughter. What do you mean? This is our daughter five months ago. Like, you better be here every day. You better be getting me a nanny. You better be meeting 24, 7 around the clock nanny if you're going to leave me. Like, what do you mean? That's so insane. That statement is crazy because at first I was like, okay, he's helping out financially. Okay, great. But then also, like, wishes her success in this. In your. In your child and raising your child. Like, what do you mean? Like, you better be there. So it's. Oh, my God. I guess it's confirmed because she's talking about it. So I guess it's confirmed that they are, in fact broken up.
- [89:44]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And to me, I mean, my interpretation, which is again, just my own, but to me, it almost sounded like maybe speculation. Of course, he was like, maybe dragging his feet about, like, helping her financially or something. And like, kind of really take. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'll get to it. Really taking his time. And then that's why she's like, well, eff it. Like, I'm doing this on my own and you're not helping. Like, let me go make a tick. Tock about it. And.
- [90:08]
Trisha Paytas
Right.
- [90:08]
Moses Hacmon
And Then he came, and then he's like, all right, okay, yeah, yeah, I'll do it right now. That's my interpretation. Speculatively.
- [90:16]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Because she wouldn't just make it if it wasn't true.
- [90:18]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. So private throughout this whole thing. Like, yeah, they, like, they obviously announcement she was pregnant and when she gave birth, but other than that, she's been really low key. So it's like, I feel like she wouldn't randomly come out and talk about this if she didn't have, like, a reason.
- [90:31]
Trisha Paytas
Right, I agree with you on that. But also, it's like, yes, they've been private, but at the same time, he's been doing a ton of interviews, making being a dad his whole personality, too. He's been like, on everything be like, this is like, what I've always wanted. When we met, she's like, you're the father of my babies. And I'm like, yes, I am. And like, you know, this is all I wanted and things. This is great. And then even like, when she's like, Scotty was, I think, a name he chose. I think it was like, some connection to one of his family members or something. So it's like he's been pretty, like, vocal about, like, this is everything I wanted. I'm going to be the dad. Like, this is like, everything. And it's like, you dipped in five months. You're so weird for that. And even if he has, like, mental health problems, like, yeah, the support, support, at the very least, you should be providing, because what she's looking for is basically like, three different people. And it's like, you should be providing all three of those people, which is very easy to get. You can get them at a moment's notice with agencies, but maybe she doesn't know that. Or also, agencies are expensive because they take 20% of, like, the yearly salary. So they are expensive. Yeah. They're not cheap. So. But p. I think you have money. You just did that roast. Use that roast money. Because I thought someone speculate, like, oh, it's the reason he went to do the roast on Mother's Day. And that's why I'm like, I'm sure that's not the reason why. But it's also like, he said he had to work, so give some that money over. I saw someone show, like, their check after child support. It's like they were left with, like, $192. And this is just a person who has just like a regular 9, 5 or whatever. And it's like, because, like, 400 went to the kids. And it's like, at the very least, I feel like some of that check. That check should be going to care for your child and the mom of your child.
- [91:53]
Moses Hacmon
Ugh.
- [91:53]
Trisha Paytas
Biggest ick. I always. I always have gotten ick from him and I just never understood the appeal. And now this make sense. And it's not just like his looks. It's like, you seem like a bad person. You know, his looks are fine. I'm not like, whatever, but I just am like, ew. And then everyone giving her hard time. Everyone's like, girl, are you surprised? Like, this all happened in like a year. It's like, well, it. Whatever it happened. People were like, so mean to her. I was like, he's the. He's the one that's like, oh, yeah. I knew I was gonna have a. She was gonna be the mother of my baby on our first date. Okay. So that's why she expected it to last. Like, what do you mean? Like, it's so weird. These guys just really have. Be careful you have babies with. Be careful you have babies with. Because then you're stuck with these clowns for life. I guess you would think too, like, Pete Davidson, if you have a baby, you're like, oh, I'll be taken care of. And like a good way. You know who's always on my feed right now is Elon Musk's. I don't know what number. Baby mama, Ashley St. Clair. Do you know her?
- [92:51]
Moses Hacmon
I remember when her name popped up. Kind of recent, right?
- [92:55]
Oscar
She.
- [92:56]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, maybe a few years ago, had a baby with it.
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Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [93:00]
Trisha Paytas
Young. She's really young. And like, she looks like a model ass type. But anyway, she's. She's on a 50 part. Who the f did I have a baby with? Series about Elon Musk. I'm like, is there no NDA girl? Because she's like signing all of these. But same kind of thing where she was like, well, he said that he was going to be in, like a committed relationship with me. And then she finds out he's with, you know, Siobhan having a baby with her and, like, still talking to like, Grimes and all these things. Like, it's really, really. It's. She's. She. I think she was 25 when she had the baby with Elon. I don't know how she is now. Maybe 27, very young. She said she used to be like a political influencer, but now she's not. Cuz she got exposed to this world and it's weird and it's dark, but she said she gets like followed by Escalades.
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Moses Hacmon
How weird.
- [93:41]
Trisha Paytas
And like four people are outside her house all the time?
- [93:45]
Moses Hacmon
Yes. She's 27 now.
- [93:47]
Trisha Paytas
And how old is he? He has to be like 55 or something, right?
- [93:53]
Moses Hacmon
54. You're really good with age.
- [93:56]
Trisha Paytas
This is random too. I do not know this, but basically she'd be like, while she was pregnant, other girls would be like, send screenshots of DMS of him being like, I want to impregnate you. Yeah, like, and then he got, I think this lady like over in Japan. He got pregnant, but he told Ashley like, oh, it's just my sperm they want. I'm not gonna. There's nothing romantic. Like, it's so. I feel like she was implying he has like way more babies than people know. And it's just like, what is going on? And I guess she just thought, oh, cuz everyone was calling her gold digger. That's what made me think of it. She thought, well, you know, she'd rather have like a baby with someone who has like a comfortable lifestyle. I don't know. I guess I'm assuming he pays child support, but she didn't say anything about that. I didn't get that far in the series. But anyways, assuming that, you know, with Elon Musk on, your life would be set up. But maybe she is not set up like people think.
- [94:48]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, I think even Vivian Wilson has talked about like she doesn't get any money from, from him either.
- [94:54]
Trisha Paytas
But like now as an adult or as a kid too, I don't know.
- [94:58]
Moses Hacmon
I saw like she was, did like a. It was like maybe a year or two ago. She was like in assumptions about her like tick tock or Instagram real and she was like, people always assume like, I have so much money because of Elon, but he does not give me any money.
- [95:15]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it's like the opposite, right? He like tries to disown her and stuff. And I don't know, again, be careful. We have kids. I feel like money and not with Pete. I mean Pete does seem charismatic and stuff like that. Like I understand all these women like him like for a reason. But man, sometimes men with money are kind of actually the worst because they think people don't deserve it or so I don't know. Or they're just stingy with it or they use it as a control mechanism. But him, elon musk, like DMing women like, like I want to impregnate you is kind of crazy, right?
- [95:45]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, I mean he's all about just like spreading the seed.
- [95:49]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, he is. Yeah. That's religious crazy.
- [95:52]
Moses Hacmon
But he's just nuts.
- [95:53]
Trisha Paytas
Maybe that. Yeah.
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Moses Hacmon
I think because he thinks he's like God's gift. I mean, he thinks he's like, very special and like a genius and the best. So it's about just like having as many, many hymns as possible.
- [96:07]
Trisha Paytas
Right. She did say that. Like, he's like, if there is like a end of the world apocalypse, like, don't you want to have like an army?
- [96:14]
Moses Hacmon
Very weird.
- [96:17]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, very weird. Well, who's the worst baby daddy? Elon Musk or Pete Davidson? Really?
- [96:26]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. Because at least he's. I mean, Elon Musk talks terrible about having a trans daughter.
- [96:31]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. And if you're child yet. Right. Okay. He's the worst.
- [96:36]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [96:38]
Trisha Paytas
He does sound pretty awful, I guess. Like, when she got pregnant, he kind of was like, no help after that. Yeah, I mean, that's.
- [96:42]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, she was a former playmate.
- [96:45]
Trisha Paytas
Really?
- [96:45]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [96:46]
Trisha Paytas
What year? She's pretty young. Must have been after half died.
- [96:49]
Moses Hacmon
2017.
- [96:50]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I think that's like after he died.
- [96:54]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, and I guess from one terrible rich man to another. I know. From one terrible rich man to. To another. My favorite Hot Topic. I have really enjoyed the past week because James Charles lashings do make me a little giddy. Like, I can't lie. And everyone kind of teaming up to be like, you suck. That's been like, I don't know. It just feels like we are the world. We've united.
- [97:20]
Trisha Paytas
When you're down and out, there's no way we can fall. That is giving that James is. Well, I think it's just like he is the worse. I think he's. You know, and then everyone is like, aligned on this always. And I think with more and more things, it's like, okay, we all agree on this.
- [97:36]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, I know. Because obviously the discourse around James Charles the past week or so has been like, why has this been the thing that like, really has put a lot of pressure on him and as of now, kind of canceled him the most. He's been canceled since my sister and he's still not.
- [97:52]
Trisha Paytas
Hasn't said anything?
- [97:53]
Moses Hacmon
No, I. Not publicly.
- [97:55]
Oscar
Also, he did change his name since.
- [97:57]
Moses Hacmon
Is it Jimmy Chuck?
- [97:59]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, actually. Is that fake news?
- [98:03]
Oscar
That's just the name that everyone calls him now.
- [98:05]
Trisha Paytas
Jimmy Chuck. Who came up with this? Oscar. Did you start it? You spread it in the comments?
- [98:10]
Moses Hacmon
I didn't start it, but I love it. And, well,
- [98:15]
Trisha Paytas
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Moses Hacmon
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- [98:44]
Trisha Paytas
Who's Jimmy Chuck? Like, where did it come from?
- [98:48]
Oscar
I just. I guess the same jc Like, I guess. But that's. That's just the name that Tick Tock is calling him.
- [98:55]
Moses Hacmon
Right.
- [98:55]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Jimmy Chop. Is that like a code name so we don't get, like.
- [98:58]
Moses Hacmon
Well, Jimmy nickname for James Chuck. A nickname for Charles.
- [99:02]
Trisha Paytas
Got him.
- [99:03]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [99:03]
Trisha Paytas
Is it like a way of, like, not triggering people maybe?
- [99:07]
Moses Hacmon
I just think it's funny.
- [99:07]
Trisha Paytas
Trigger war. Okay. Jimmy Chuck.
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Oscar
Yeah.
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Moses Hacmon
It tickles me, but, yeah, the Jimmy Chuck lashings. Everyone's kind of united on it. I think this one in particular, as it's something everyone can relate to for the most part. I think a lot of people have, like, been in a place where they've struggled financially, struggle finding a job. They're adults. Obviously. His fans who are kids, who are jobless because they're too young, don't really relate. But for the most part, a lot of people can relate to it. I think, too, the other aspect to it is that unfortunately, like, when it becomes to a thing of, like, male child victims, like, those people just find it hard to believe. And also, like, this is in a case of, like, he said, she said. It's just like him of James of his own Jimmy talk of his own accord.
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Trisha Paytas
So sorry, Jimmy editor.
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Moses Hacmon
He's like, I was that.
- [99:59]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
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Moses Hacmon
And like, let me not just refer by Jimmy, but Jimmy Chuck of his own accord, went on this tirade like, there's no he said, she said. Like, you posted yourself. Like, there's no one else to point.
- [100:12]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, that's. Again, you did this. Like, it's your words. You had. He had no reason to post this. There was no. What did he think he was gonna gain? Like, I'm scared to, like, post. Like, Starbucks has a new ombre drink. And I wanted to show. But I mean, maybe I shouldn't post the Starbucks right now. But he's like, posting this with his, like, full chest screaming, calling this girl the beat, where I'm like, why did you post that? Like, that was so weird. It's like he almost like, once they get canceled, he gets off on getting canceled. Or something, because, like, what I know.
- [100:38]
Moses Hacmon
And so the one thing I saw, like, a theory, I suppose, is obviously he did want, like, a viral moment. His thing is screaming. We've been saying for years, like, why is this thing screaming? Like, why is it yelling? Why is it complaining? And then who came forward to speak about this? But HRH collection. Who? Who?
- [100:59]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, what?
- [101:00]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah, so it clicked for me because she. She was like, hrh I kind of struggle with. Because I don't. I get lost as, you know, like, what's a troll? What's like, a character versus, like, what is real? Obviously, I've seen, like, the memes of her screaming and complaining and stuff, and they are kind of camp, but then I get confused as to, like, what is genuine. But. So I don't go too deep into the HRH lore, but I did think it was interesting because it was her out of character, I suppose, talking about James Charles. She didn't say Jimmy Chuck's name, but obviously alluded to, like, there's a creator who's out here screaming. He know he's trying to, like, do my thing right now, but not even I would do something like this. So she was kind of, like, denouncing him. And then it really did click for me. I was like, oh, he's been playing in her purse the whole time, just trying to yell and scream to be a meme and be a reaction. Like, that's been his whole thing. This whole.
- [101:49]
Trisha Paytas
Who said this? HRHR people? Or you're just saying this.
- [101:50]
Moses Hacmon
HRH said this. And. And then it clicked. I was like, oh, because I was wondering. I was like, where did he get this from? Where did this rebrand come from? The yelling to kind of have a viral moment being meme be a sound bite. Like, it's. It felt so random to me. Yeah, he just screams and, like, it's so stressful. And that's her stick, and that's her thing. And obviously James Charles, not the most original person in the world.
- [102:15]
Trisha Paytas
I see.
- [102:16]
Moses Hacmon
I was like, oh, so he's been kind of just, like, copying her.
- [102:19]
Trisha Paytas
Do you think he'll come out and say, like, it's a character? Like, I was trolling. I was rage baiting.
- [102:25]
Moses Hacmon
I don't know, because I feel like he would have in that apology that he posted. You know what I mean?
- [102:31]
Trisha Paytas
But maybe it's still, like, in character.
- [102:34]
Moses Hacmon
I think the problem is he is this person.
- [102:36]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [102:36]
Moses Hacmon
But he amplifies it by, like, the screaming and stuff. You know what I mean? Like, I could tell in that first video where he was yelling at the Spirit Airlines employee. He was making himself giggle a little bit because he was so.
- [102:48]
Trisha Paytas
He's like, oh.
- [102:50]
Moses Hacmon
Like, he was so theatrical and he was giggling. So he was getting a kick out of it himself.
- [102:55]
Trisha Paytas
Kind of nicocado a little bit.
- [102:57]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [102:57]
Trisha Paytas
Like, there is.
- [102:57]
Moses Hacmon
It comes from a genuine place, but it's so amplified. So.
- [103:02]
Trisha Paytas
And Hra, she's out of character and she's saying, this is what's happening.
- [103:06]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. She was like, there is a creator out here who is sitting here yelling at someone for losing their job. I can tell he's trying. They're trying to do the similar content that I do, but I would never do that. And actually I'm trying to, like, do more things where I give back more. So you guys let me know.
- [103:20]
Trisha Paytas
Say you do call people fat pieces of. In front of you in the drive thru, which is like, so insane girl. But okay, I know she has like a little bit of hate speech in there.
- [103:28]
Moses Hacmon
That's what I'm saying. Charles coded, though. I think people would think it was camp, the way, like, you know, I
- [103:34]
Trisha Paytas
guess people were thinking that when he was like yelling at the Tesla on the way back from Coachella. I guess people like, we did too. We thought it was like a little
- [103:40]
Moses Hacmon
key or when he's yelling at, you know, Gen Z for applying incorrectly to be his assistant.
- [103:44]
Trisha Paytas
And we thought, yeah. We were like, okay.
- [103:46]
Oscar
He was literally yelling at the floor.
- [103:48]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [103:50]
Oscar
For having the bumps outside the right
- [103:52]
Trisha Paytas
grocery store that, okay, camp. But this was like, this ended up being a real person. And I'm like, okay. Like, it would have been better if it was like a made up thing. Which maybe people did think that for a minute. They're like, maybe this email didn't even happen. Which he just kind of made up a thing. Which in that case, okay, still kind of weird, but I guess that is catering. Like, people do love hrh. People are like, you and HR Okay. Kind of not the same, but okay. Like, you know, people used to. Joey Grass would always be like, you need HRH on. I was like, okay. And obviously, like, getting away from that. But anyway, like, James Charles is like, you're doing it under this guise as opposed to, I guess, hrh, you know what you're getting. James Charles would like, flip between that and like being a brand creator and going to Coachella and being normal, hanging out with people. Yeah, yeah. So it's like kind of like, I guess trolling, where it's like, what's the real James Charles? But they're all pieces of. Really none of them are good. They're all kind of an awful person all the way around. But I guess that makes more sense. But don't. Can't use that excuse. Like, he can't come back and be like, I was trolling, because this is a real person situation. So.
- [104:51]
Moses Hacmon
And I think he was getting so much negative press anyway. Like, there was such a large majority of people like, that wouldn't take him serious ever again because of all the allegations and everything he admitted to when it comes to, like, DMing minors and stuff. So I guess that makes his pivot to being, like the screaming, complaining HRH knockoff. Like, that kind of makes sense. Like, so interesting leaning into being unlikable in a camp way versus, like, trying to be likable when you're never going to win them over again kind of.
- [105:22]
Trisha Paytas
Right? So he's like, I'm just gonna go the complete villain route.
- [105:24]
Moses Hacmon
So that kind of made sense to me. After I saw her tick tock talking about, I was like, I see. I see where this came from. Because I. It just felt so random to me for a long time. But of course, the Spirit Airlines employees did. Former Spirit Airlines employee came forward with her own tick tock talking about it, and she queened. She queened. I was.
- [105:47]
Trisha Paytas
Loved it all. I do not accept it. I do not accept this apology. As you shouldn't. He literally called you lazy, blasted you. Like, some people were like, what? He apologized and this is weird. And, like, so, you know, entitled. I was like, no, like, she doesn't have to forgive him. I wouldn't forgive him. He, like, blasted in me and he. She showed us his private apology. But, like, she said, it's like, you made this so public. Give me a public apology. Get on that camera, James. We saw you do it with Kayla Malik a week later. Like, you can get on your camera and apologize. You can apologize to Amber like you like, but he would never. Because this is the real James Charles and he does think like Amber and all. But Amber has said that GoFundMe actually set up GoFundMe themselves. Like, set up a GoFundMe for everyone who lost their jobs at Spirit Airlines. So, like, became a greater thing despite James Charles. Not because of James Charles. Like, he was the worst. Gypsy Rose Blanchard donated $500, which I
- [106:43]
Moses Hacmon
love her message it is, Hi, my name is Gypsy Rose Blanchard, and I am an influencer on TikTok. I have 9.3 million followers, and I'm truly sorry for what happened, and I'm sending many Positive vibes to you, period, James.
- [106:57]
Trisha Paytas
That's all it would have taken this right? They donated the same amount. Like the same amount. And James did it after the fact. I was just like, what? Like it's so. And James Only donating 500 is crazy. You should at least. This is at least a 10K one. At least a 10K one T. Yeah.
- [107:14]
Moses Hacmon
He at first donated 500 and then he did get called out and did end up donating more. I think it ended up being 1500 after he could.
- [107:24]
Trisha Paytas
After he break out $15,000 house at Coachella. You should take that $15,000 and give it it to Amber. Like, that's crazy. You are such a cheap, cheap, bleep me, mother. Like, what the hell are you doing? Like you're bragging about all this money, all this stuff that you have and you can't like donate this to her? Like, what?
- [107:45]
Oscar
Yeah, the thing is he was trying to use her and her situation to go viral.
- [107:50]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [107:50]
Oscar
Like, I really think his goal was to go viral with that tick tock. He thought he's gonna get views and people are gonna parade him. Like, oh yeah, we all, all wanted to say that or something like that. I don't know. But. And then his platform is so big.
- [108:03]
Trisha Paytas
Did he think that everyone would be like, we all were thinking this. Like no one's thinking when people lose their jobs. Oh, you lazy.
- [108:09]
Oscar
Right. But he lives in a bubble, right? He lives in his old bubble with everyone around him telling him yes. Like he doesn't know what real people think, you know, and, and especially when you get criticism from the world, you detach yourself even further and further and further, further. But. So he's obviously in some kind of a bubble. He thought making this tick tock is going to be funny and people are going to go, it's going to go viral. But to use such a big platform to bully such a anonymous person and then to not really make it right, that's where it's really wrong. Like a private apology when you have 40 million followers.
- [108:45]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [108:46]
Oscar
You blast somebody to 40 million people, but then you send a private apology. Apology. 500 compared to, you know, it's insane.
- [108:53]
Trisha Paytas
Like, yeah, Yasha should do a very public apology for this. This is very odd.
- [108:59]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And also to clarify, so yeah, his first donation was 500. He was donating to like multiple Spirit Airlines employees that after GoFundMe set it up and then once he got called out, he donated actually 5000, not 1500 to Amber.
- [109:13]
Trisha Paytas
Still not enough.
- [109:14]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. And also, I guess her original GoFundMe. When she posted, she was only asking for 1500. In general, he went on his whole rant as if she was asking for an exorbitant amount.
- [109:23]
Trisha Paytas
$50,000 or something like that. No. It's so insane. And also, notice he only does the stuff when he gets called out. The initial donation was 500. And then people, I said, oh, yeah, now I'll do 5,000. Same thing with the apology. He did an apology. That wasn't apology. Like, I doubled down what it did. And Jackie calls him, calls him out, and then he does a real apology. He only does stuff when he's, like, caught. And also, yeah, not publicly doing any of this. When he is like, the first to grab a camera for anything is like, you're such a coward. Like, what you need to go on camera and keep donating and Keep sharing everyone's GoFundMe. Keep doing this. This should be your whole personality for the next month. Is like donating GoFundMe, the Spirit Airline one. GoFundMe did it. Like, you should be, like, doing this every day, all day. You should be doing $5,000 a day for the next month.
- [110:06]
Moses Hacmon
An hour.
- [110:07]
Trisha Paytas
That hour. Yeah. Okay.
- [110:09]
Moses Hacmon
Because Spirit Airlines painted.
- [110:11]
Trisha Paytas
Yes. You should be bringing Spirit Airlines back. He said, yes. Painted Collab. Doing the makeup for Spirit Airlines.
- [110:18]
Moses Hacmon
I did see on Facebook Marketplace, someone was selling a Spirit airlines Airbus for $220,000. So maybe James Charles should buy that, people.
- [110:26]
Trisha Paytas
Yes, you should actually, Jimmy Chuck Airline. I don't know who's flying that.
- [110:32]
Oscar
Check me along.
- [110:35]
Moses Hacmon
His message, though, did kill me. His original DM apologizing to Amber that. That she posted on TikTok because I'm like, how old are you again?
- [110:44]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, no.
- [110:45]
Moses Hacmon
He said, I'm so sorry for adding to what was already a distressing time. I'm so ashamed. For most, only the. The video, but also for being disgustingly out of touch. I was sent your video today and was so glad to see you go from me. Has exploded. But I also know that getting attention online can be scary and overwhelming, especially when you never asked for it in the first place. I spent the last few days reading stories from real people about what it's actually like losing a job without notice.
- [111:09]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
- [111:10]
Moses Hacmon
And also learning about the journey to find a new one when so many people are going through the same situation. I've just donated to your GoFundMe. But also, please know I'm here if there's anything else I can do.
- [111:23]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. I'm so glad.
- [111:24]
Oscar
She was like, he's mainsplaining her.
- [111:26]
Moses Hacmon
What it's like to lose a job.
- [111:27]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, off, like, okay.
- [111:30]
Moses Hacmon
And there's so many. Like, it kind of crazy. There's so many layers.
- [111:34]
Trisha Paytas
A.
- [111:34]
Moses Hacmon
You know what it was like to lose your job because you got demonetized after.
- [111:38]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah.
- [111:39]
Moses Hacmon
Victims came forward and said that you groomed and were sending them inappropriate images. Yeah, you got demonetized. Like, you know what it was like to lose your job. A. And then also in your TikTok where you were yelling at everyone who was upset about your screaming at this girl who lost her job was that, I know how hard it is out there because I have employees, I have friends who are looking for jobs.
- [112:02]
Trisha Paytas
Jobs.
- [112:02]
Moses Hacmon
I know how hard the job market is. But you know what you can do is you can. Instead of DMing me, you can write, you can tailor your resume. You can make a cover letter. You can say, hey, James Charles, I'm a big fan of painted and everything. You do, like, put effort.
- [112:17]
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
- [112:17]
Moses Hacmon
He's like, put effort into your DMs and make it custom for everyone. You're asking money from.
- [112:22]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
- [112:24]
Moses Hacmon
He said himself, I know how hard the job market is. I know my friends tell me how hard, hard it is. And then now he's saying, I actually had no idea and I had to spend three days learning about what it was like, what?
- [112:35]
Trisha Paytas
No, you're a liar.
- [112:36]
Oscar
But can I remind you how he reacted to just Tik Tok maybe shutting down?
- [112:41]
Trisha Paytas
I love this one too.
- [112:42]
Oscar
Let me see.
- [112:45]
Trisha Paytas
Better.
- [112:45]
Moses Hacmon
Not getting bad, but 17,000 people lost their jobs as airlines.
- [112:48]
Trisha Paytas
Why do you think you need to go fund me?
- [112:49]
Moses Hacmon
I making content for a really long time online way before tax was ever even a thing. But truly, nothing is ever compared to this. If you could have applied.
- [112:55]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
- [112:58]
Oscar
What? A little cut the side by side. Exactly his reaction to just tick tock. Not even him losing his job, just a platform that he can.
- [113:06]
Trisha Paytas
He loves to use that B word for women. It's like you're the little. You're the one crying about Tick tock. Like, you are a little crying ass. Like, that's what you are. Like. It's just. He's ew.
- [113:21]
Oscar
Just move to the next platform, whatever it is.
- [113:23]
Trisha Paytas
You know, you're crying over TikTok because this is the only place where you can get an audience that doesn't know about your behavior because they just kept getting younger and younger. So you're like, oh, I'm gonna like Ms. Tik Tok. Cuz like all these like, young kids won't know I am. You're the worst. Everything's catching up with you. Like, okay, maybe Generation Beta will be your fan. I don't know, like, wait a couple more years, wait 10 more years.
- [113:40]
Moses Hacmon
He comes out with the K pop song.
- [113:42]
Oscar
Oh, well, I mean, he's young.
- [113:44]
Trisha Paytas
You know what? I don't even think Generation Beta, which is the new generation or Alpha, because I have both of those. I have both kids in those generations and they're gonna know about James Charles.
- [113:51]
Moses Hacmon
They're gonna know the Lord in 20,
- [113:55]
Trisha Paytas
19, 40 years later, and I'll be Malibu Sarah. I'm gonna let them know the lore of James Charles. So the minute they're like, mommy, I love. No, no. It's gonna be spread because that is what you deserve. Everything about him, I just like, it feels, it feels eerie, it feels spooky. There's something like not right and like long term too. I feel like, I think you sent me a tweet. It's like, oh God, sometimes it's awful to be just so far ahead of people like you.
- [114:28]
Moses Hacmon
Oh my God. Yes.
- [114:29]
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
- [114:29]
Moses Hacmon
There was a tick tock that was like, it was not even about like influencers, but it was a person saying like it. They had the intuition to know someone was going to be bad.
- [114:37]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [114:37]
Moses Hacmon
And then they just were too ahead of the game and no one believed them. And then literally I was watching Adam McIntyre reacting to you dragging James Charles. And then he pulled up the James Charles Tik tok where he ate you up back in 2020. And all the comments, it was like dream. It was like all the Minecrafters. It was Spence, Charlie De. It was every it girl was like, yes, James, get her. Eat her up.
- [114:58]
Trisha Paytas
Wait, Dream?
- [115:01]
Moses Hacmon
Yes. Everyone was seated for him eating you up. But like, I call you Tristram. What I. What did I tell Jimmy? I was like, she's like Nostradamus. I think I called you Tristradamus.
- [115:10]
Trisha Paytas
Okay.
- [115:11]
Moses Hacmon
I'm like, she. You had the right message, but you were just too early.
- [115:15]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I did he show mine. I don't even know what I said, but I'm sure I was. It could apply to today we're talking
- [115:20]
Moses Hacmon
about how it was. It felt inappropriate because of his grooming allegations that he would befriend Charlie d' Amelio and like kind of use her to when she was 16, introduce himself to a new audience, which is kind of the guy like you did kind of clock it because what he keeps doing. Yeah. He put himself in a younger demographic that like would kind of be forgiving or maybe just not be able to. To wrap their heads around the allegations, including Charlie.
- [115:45]
Trisha Paytas
I would love to know Charlie's thoughts on James Charles today.
- [115:47]
Moses Hacmon
T. I mean, even like Kayla Malik, right? Because she said.
- [115:49]
Trisha Paytas
Right.
- [115:50]
Moses Hacmon
A fan of James Charles because she's the same like she was 16 when she like collabed with him. So very young. Not able to like process the severity of like him talking to and sending photos to like little boys.
- [116:02]
Trisha Paytas
So because people were saying that with Kayla, they're like, oh, she had no problem collabing with him and she knew about all this stuff that I'm like, she was 16, 17, 18, like child. And Charlie too. Like, I would assume they're a dream. Let's get a comment from him now. I want to get a comment from all the people. What do we think of James Charles now? Does he eat us up? Did he eat up Amber? No. Like, let's get that. You know what I mean? Because you have that intuition. And I'm going to go one separate. Right. As I said that while David in 2018. I feel like something bad's happening in that group. I hope. No, no one like dies. You know what I mean? Like multiple injuries after. And same thing with James. It's just like I see a documentary about him in like 10 years and I don't know what like, I just like feel it, you know, There was that one on Netflix, like the Crash. Did you watch that one?
- [116:51]
Moses Hacmon
No, not yet. I saw a clip of it.
- [116:53]
Trisha Paytas
I guess they had one on Hulu too, like the Mean Girl Murders. And she was like featured on that. This girl. Her. That story is so crazy. That's. I'm. And I watched documentary. So it's like, I feel like again, I'm not saying he's gonna kill someone with his car or anything like that, but it's just like, I just feel like this doesn't have like a great. He needs to get it together though. Maybe it's like a wake up call. Maybe my premonitions could be like a wake up call. Be like, oh, Trisha does get right about a lot of things. Let me. Or the whole Internet basically telling you to like get help. But if you did steal HRH's gimmick, you're weird for that. You'll never be here. I don't really even know too much about her, but I. She has a fan base.
- [117:28]
Moses Hacmon
Great person to kind of model your career after though. Like, you know what I mean?
- [117:32]
Trisha Paytas
Right? He's like, oh, a hateful person. Let me also be. I mean, character wise. I don't know you, girl don't come for me. I think one time she came for me, like, doesn't know who I am. I was like, oh, my God.
- [117:41]
Moses Hacmon
But yeah, that is the character that is like, yeah, just yelling and screaming and it's like, it becomes like a meme, you know, and like camp.
- [117:48]
Trisha Paytas
So you should do it when it's the bumps on the road, I suppose. Which also was weird because that is meant for people like, that need it. Also, like, I did see someone say, like, when he assumed, he said he went to Amber's profile. Profile and assume that she was able bodied and white.
- [118:03]
Moses Hacmon
That was my first thought. It's like, you are pretty white and able, but why did you make it a white woman? That is really, really weird.
- [118:10]
Trisha Paytas
That was very odd. It's like he just.
- [118:13]
Oscar
He tells you who he hates. He hates able bodied white women.
- [118:16]
Moses Hacmon
I think also because, like, when people, they do the same thing for gay on, like, Twitter, they'll be like, it's always a white gay, always a white woman. Like, before they say something misogynistic or homophobic phobic, almost as if, like, oh, they're white, so it's okay, like, to excuse the misogyny or excuse the homophobia. And I think so. I. I do think he did that, like, manipulatively. So, like, he can't say it was like a woman of color because that would be racist.
- [118:40]
Trisha Paytas
Right.
- [118:41]
Moses Hacmon
He's like, oh, if I, if I say white, it'll excuse the misogyny. Which.
- [118:44]
Trisha Paytas
No, because what do you say? He said, like, white, pretty, able bodied. So everyone's like, oh, we're not gonna, like, feel bad.
- [118:48]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [118:49]
Trisha Paytas
But it's like a lot of weird assumptions and also just mischaracterizations in that, which is like, you're weird for that. I still hate him. I still stand by it.
- [118:57]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [118:59]
Trisha Paytas
Because I see people like, right message, wrong message. It's like, he's. He's awful. He's currently awful. Okay, I get it. I get it.
- [119:06]
Moses Hacmon
I know I saw one and I couldn't, I couldn't help it because it was like, love Trish, but if she want to talk about people's past, I'm like, baby, this is the present. This is present. Like, girl. Any more present tense. Like, what do you mean? It was five minutes ago. He's yelling and calling this girl all a.
- [119:21]
Trisha Paytas
What do you mean? I did see your comment on that one, and that made me so happy.
- [119:25]
Moses Hacmon
I was like, yeah, keep it moving. I'm like, whatever. But this one, I was like, this
- [119:28]
Trisha Paytas
is, like, five minutes ago. Kayla Malik was like, six months ago. Like, there's just always Coachella not tipping was two months ago. Like, what? There's always something of him just constantly being awful and a nuisance to society. Like, he's like, always. There's no. I think he was crying about morphe owing him $2 million. Like, he's always crying. He's always being a little bitch, you know, and so, like, he love throw that around. But it is projection because you are the little.
- [119:57]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, my God. And I also love Tana clocking his T2T, really, in this era is, like, so fierce because she kept it, like, about business and kind of put perspective into, like, when she was going around figuring out what, like, IP to create as a creator or influencer. She's like. She learned from her meetings at Makeup is the most financially beneficial because of the turnaround in price. Like, you pay 25 cents for an eyeshadow, you sell it for $30. Like, the markup and the price discrepancy. So it's the most profitable. And she was like, okay. So in the time that he sold, like, 10 eyeshadows, she. He made, like, her salary, basically. You know what I mean? So it was like, why when you are making so much money for makeup.
- [120:48]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [120:48]
Moses Hacmon
And you didn't have to do anything. Like, you laid in bed and you made, like, her salary. Why are you.
- [120:54]
Trisha Paytas
Because. And the markup, I know is part of business. Obviously. That's like, business. That's all of it. But it's also a little scammy. It's like, you know, you pay 25 cents for something and charge 30 bucks. So it's like, who are you to call someone lazy or criticizing anyone? She's like, working on her feet, like, helping people. Like, aviation is like, there's just millions of people traveling every day trying to keep people safe and stuff. It's so weird. That is a great point. She does clock it.
- [121:16]
Moses Hacmon
It's been. It's been such a key. I'm sorry. I know, though. And it's so funny, too, because. Not funny, but ironic, I suppose, because the last time and during the By Sister era, again, losing sponsorships, demonetization and everything. And his comeback, the thing he would use, like, whenever he would talk about it and reflect about it was like. It was just so hard for me to hear all this negative stuff. Like, I looked out a window and I thought about ending it all or whatever. Like, he implied that he was really having dark thoughts. But it's like, okay, so you were going through a really hard time, and you had really dark thoughts. So then why, when you see other people going through that, do you make a mockery out of them and, like, bring them out to the Times Square and, like, poke fun of them and, like, point your finger and try to humiliate them? Like, that's so weird for someone who went through a quote, unquote dark time, had terrible thoughts, wanted to end it all, to go around and, like, put that energy to someone else.
- [122:13]
Trisha Paytas
It's so weird because if that's true, if you have those dark thoughts and you would do that to someone else, and that means you're sinister and evil, and if you lied about that, then you're just weird. So I. I agree. And he doesn't. That's the thing. He, like, terrorizes, like, lots of people. Right. It's like, it's. Again, it's not just. It's one thing to be like, these bumps on the road or this. This battery on my Tesla. Like, okay, it's one thing. If you're doing, like, to. Inanimate objects are just, like, in the sphere. I suppose you're just talking to the universe, but, like, you're terrorizing. There was. He was terrorizing the kids from the IT movie. Like, did you see this? I just found out about this lore because my TikTok is all James Charles. He's literally, when the first it movie comes out, these are children. And he's, like, going back and forth on Twitter, like, terrorizing them. And the kids are being, like, somewhat respectful, and he's just, like, going back at them.
- [123:03]
Moses Hacmon
He was, like, tweeting negatively about the movie as he was inside the theater.
- [123:06]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [123:07]
Moses Hacmon
And Finn Wolfhard, who, yeah, was like, a minor at the time, was like, why are you tweeting about the movie when you're inside the theater?
- [123:14]
Trisha Paytas
He went off on him, one of the other ones who was, like, being kind of, like, respectful, and he was just going so crazy. And then he, like, went one step further into, like, a Pennywise, like, makeup to, like, do whatever. Like, it was so weird. And you're like. Because he said something like, this movie sucks. Like, the actors are, like, not good or something. Then the actors are like, this is, like, weird. Whatever. And. And then he was, like, attacking them. I'm like, can you stop terrorizing children and women? Like, you are. You are the real life. That's my. I see that trend now. It's like my horror movie. And it's Just like the five things. And mine is just James Charles, James, Charles, James. There's no one. And then Shane was interacting with him during that time. He's like. Because I think he. I think he then did a video in his Uber after the movie. And he's like, screaming and it's Uber. Because then Shane replies like, I just want to know what your Uber driver was thinking while you were making this video. Did you ever see that?
- [124:05]
Moses Hacmon
No.
- [124:05]
Trisha Paytas
It's like a follow up. And he's just like screaming back that. When did it come out? Like 2018. It was like 2017. It was like a really long time ago. And it's like he just couldn't help himself. He loves to just, like, scream at a phone and. Yeah, people love it when you eat me up. Okay, fine. Dream Charlie d'. Amelio. I want to get those other names. Okay. You know, look like I'm in my peace era. Okay, but what?
- [124:34]
Moses Hacmon
All right,
- [124:36]
Trisha Paytas
but let's remind all the other people that he's eating up. But are you also all cheering for this? It's like, I get it, we're a common villain, but, like, that's so wild. Oh, my God. What? What a terror he is to the social media world. Really? I'll keep saying it too. I don't care. Okay, I have a past, sure, but at least I'm not currently being a piece of to like other humans in this world. Like, really just actively trying to make it a better place. Even HRH collection. You said what? She's donating?
- [125:04]
Moses Hacmon
Like, yeah.
- [125:05]
Trisha Paytas
Let's donate some more money. James. You have plenty. You just bragged about a $50,000 hotel, a weekend. Let's keep donating. Let's never stop donating for the next month to people who've lost their jobs. Let's just do more. And you're not doing enough. You're doing the bare minimum. Literally. Ugh.
- [125:23]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. Spence. Laser beam.
- [125:26]
Trisha Paytas
Laser beam. Spence. Wa. Breaks my heart dream. Okay, I don't know you, but I just remember that Shane Dawson face reveal.
- [125:35]
Moses Hacmon
The comments are killing me. Everyone's respect for James going up. Did he stutter? Who? That was greasy Caleb Finn pop off.
- [125:42]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. Caleb Finn Sounds familiar. Familiar.
- [125:47]
Moses Hacmon
The all the blue check marks in here takes me out.
- [125:50]
Trisha Paytas
I want to know all their comments.
- [125:52]
Moses Hacmon
Noodles never argue with James Charles is what floof Noodles commented.
- [125:56]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I'll keep arguing. Everyone else can get a pass. James Charles will forever be enemy number one, and I have no personal beef with him. I think I was exchanging, like, voice memos with Tana over this. And I was like, I love the way. And I'm like, you know what's so crazy is I have had like zero personal. Like, there's nothing personally with we've ever crossed paths, connected, nothing. But just like I've actually never hated another influencer more. Even the ones that I known in real life that I, you know, have had issues with. I've never hated anyone more than him because he's, like, awful. I would attest the other people are like, they can't. They had their decent moments, but he's like, contributes nothing. These other people contribute a little thing here and there. You know, at least with David we got Dobrik's pizza, that wonderful pizza chain. That vodka sauce. I mean, it was good. Good when it was good too. No. Oh, you liked it. You did like it. I guess it was good one one fan over here. But I think he has new chips now. I think he's like, in the food industry. He's waivers over here. But I guess we'll go get to the David in the next episode.
- [127:02]
Moses Hacmon
But that's a whole other journey.
- [127:04]
Trisha Paytas
That's a journey. And I have thoughts. People always want to give me my. Let me give my thoughts right away. And it's like sometimes I need to, like, compose.
- [127:11]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah.
- [127:12]
Trisha Paytas
Opposite. They need to simmer. They need to be in the fridge. They need to cool down because, you know, my initial thoughts, but they come out really hot. And I didn't even. I didn't even reach out. Well, I didn't reach out to Jack because I just didn't want to have any inside information before I give my opinions on it and my thoughts, you know, it's fair. But James, still enemy number one forever.
- [127:34]
Moses Hacmon
And justice Ramber.
- [127:35]
Trisha Paytas
Justice for Amber for sure. Shout to out out, everyone.
- [127:41]
Moses Hacmon
Gypsy Rose.
- [127:42]
Trisha Paytas
Gypsy.
- [127:42]
Moses Hacmon
Well, hrh.
- [127:45]
Trisha Paytas
Hrh. Yes. Hrh. Don't come for me as soon as I say something. I don't know. I don't know your character. I don't know your stick girl. I hope you're doing good things. People do like you. At least James Charles can't say the same. So yeah, H can get away with that.
- [127:56]
Moses Hacmon
That's her. That's her key.
- [127:58]
Trisha Paytas
I always see us in compilation together. I'm like, are we. Were we the same? I don't know.
- [128:01]
Moses Hacmon
I don't both mean queens.
- [128:03]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, I'll take that. Yeah, I'll take that one.
- [128:08]
Moses Hacmon
But she ain't doing no K pop song.
- [128:10]
Trisha Paytas
So as of right now, don't come for my brand. Me coming for everyone's. Brand.
- [128:16]
Oscar
Try and get you to the K pop charts.
- [128:18]
Moses Hacmon
Wow.
- [128:19]
Oscar
I think you'll get to the K pop charts.
- [128:21]
Trisha Paytas
On where?
- [128:22]
Moses Hacmon
Billboard.
- [128:23]
Oscar
It's K pop charts. On Twitter. Million followers.
- [128:27]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, I would.
- [128:29]
Oscar
People say. Anyway, I'm looking. I'm looking into it. I'm looking to see what's happening. Happening before.
- [128:33]
Trisha Paytas
Thank you. Oh, my gosh. I'm very excited about this. This is all really new to me. I don't have time to tweet about any drama when I'm in. If a K pop drama wants my song, though, let me know because I'm down to have it in a show.
- [128:46]
Oscar
Let me see. Let me.
- [128:47]
Trisha Paytas
I do love a K K drama
- [128:49]
Oscar
because they were saying, like, your song on itunes was charging.
- [128:54]
Trisha Paytas
What? Oh, my gosh. I wonder if I get, like, a number one with this. It's gonna be so exciting. The Grammy may not be far off tomorrow.
- [129:01]
Moses Hacmon
You're in full kpop.
- [129:03]
Trisha Paytas
I might be. Oh, my God. Me and England just trying to record this. Oh, my God. This is very exciting. And I get to perform it live in a week. This is really exciting stuff. Maybe the only time I perform it live is in England, so you might want to see it. The orchestra has been practicing it. They've been like, doing the K pop version and in violins. This is very exciting.
- [129:26]
Oscar
And when I do look at your song, then the below it. It has the top albums in K pop. So itunes is definitely has you in the right.
- [129:35]
Trisha Paytas
Right. I just had to pick a subcategory. When you submit it, it's like pop and then it asks if you want to do, like, dance pop. And I finally got to put, like, k pop in this one, so maybe it'll be in the chart. It's hard, though. K pop is competitive, but what? Oh, no. Oh, no. By me or James Charles. Okay.
- [129:56]
Moses Hacmon
Even Trisha is doing choreo in her music video video at blackpink. Oh, my God.
- [130:01]
Trisha Paytas
Shots fire.
- [130:02]
Moses Hacmon
Pink Cash cowing. Cash cow said it.
- [130:06]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. I was. I was given full choreo. Okay. I was giving. Why do they not dance anymore?
- [130:14]
Moses Hacmon
No, not really. Well, I think people always say Jenny doesn't dance or whatever people are. Yeah. Who want to rock like Jenny.
- [130:21]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And also, like, you're so busy. It's like, be happy I just showed up. It's giving Harry an aperture. Like, it's very him. Just like, be happy I'm here. I don't know what's happening because the dance was messy.
- [130:34]
Moses Hacmon
Oh, Aperture. Yeah. I just love. There's this one video Jenny. It was when blackpink was performing on tour and the clip I saw was like, Rose is next to her and like Rose is doing the choreo and Jennie's kind of just like. She's kind of over it and Rose is like mid choreo sees her and then there's like a double take. Like, why?
- [130:52]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, like, what are you doing? And she's just like, I'm here. She's like, I'm lucky. I'm like happy be to.
- [130:58]
Moses Hacmon
Yeah. I do want to walk like Jenny.
- [131:00]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And you know, honestly, I was done like, Jenny. Is that a song?
- [131:03]
Moses Hacmon
Like. Yeah.
- [131:04]
Trisha Paytas
Okay.
- [131:04]
Moses Hacmon
It's like everybody want to be Jenny.
- [131:07]
Trisha Paytas
Jenny.
- [131:08]
Moses Hacmon
Jenny. It's Jenny. But have you ever met Jenny?
- [131:11]
Trisha Paytas
No.
- [131:12]
Moses Hacmon
I would like to rock like Jenny. I love that song.
- [131:15]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, that sounds sketchy. I like it. Oh, I have to give it a my all because this is my debut and I need to really make a. I gotta come. I have to compete against those Cat's eye girls. I need to really make my mark. Okay.
- [131:26]
Moses Hacmon
La la la la la la la.
- [131:29]
Trisha Paytas
Is this. What dance is this? Okay.
- [131:34]
Moses Hacmon
Love me once and know you love me twice Love me once. It's time to roll the dice. Cat side.
- [131:39]
Trisha Paytas
Oh. Their song is called debut.
- [131:40]
Moses Hacmon
We ain't flexing, baby do what we do up on us Chicken up again and come through. You can run it, run it, run it Know the scene a day debut Love me wants to know you Love me twice Love me once. They love this, guys.
- [131:59]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I'm here.
- [132:00]
Moses Hacmon
That's your debut air.
- [132:02]
Trisha Paytas
Do my stance on tick tock. Hey, mine's easy with a little bit. Oh, my God.
- [132:05]
Moses Hacmon
You need to just. There's this one girl, she's the actress from. You know. Oh, I was gonna say, you know, Megan. The Dolby interviewed her, of course. She's the girl that is like the. She does like the dance of Megan. Like, she's the actual movement of Megan. She's. She has a country song and every TikTok she does is her doing. Like, she made up the dance to her new single.
- [132:24]
Trisha Paytas
Like, what's the song?
- [132:26]
Moses Hacmon
Ironically, it's called Entertainment Tonight. But no correlation.
- [132:29]
Trisha Paytas
No correlation. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Paid from UI is to do it
- [132:33]
Moses Hacmon
and she made up her own dance and literally every single TikTok is her doing this. And she's the only one, mind you, that's doing the trend because she made it herself.
- [132:42]
Trisha Paytas
I love it. She's like, I'm just doing this myself.
- [132:43]
Moses Hacmon
You need to have that energy.
- [132:45]
Trisha Paytas
Like, this is your just doing My own. Do I do my choreo from the video or I just drew other choreo? Just make it like, er, cutier. I mean, it's cutesy, but it's with a group in my video direction.
- [132:54]
Moses Hacmon
Make up the trend. Like make up the dance trend to it.
- [132:57]
Trisha Paytas
It's giving me a trainer though. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, oh, like doing a dance. That's not catching on.
- [133:02]
Moses Hacmon
But that's kind of what makes it fierce.
- [133:04]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Just me doing it. But I mean, that's all my songs really. I'm trying to.
- [133:08]
Moses Hacmon
You just need to make a million tick tocks doing the summer.
- [133:13]
Trisha Paytas
Maybe. Maybe someone cooler than me can do it because I would love. Yeah. Charlie, this is your moment to redeem yourself. Okay. We're a line girl. We're both Broadway debuts. Let's. Let's unalign ourselves. I wonder who still stays friends with James Charles. I wonder if it's Dixie. Like, does someone still.
- [133:28]
Moses Hacmon
Lone Fox, the interior design king. I. Lone Fox. We got it. We got a ditching.
- [133:33]
Trisha Paytas
He was in the vlog.
- [133:34]
Moses Hacmon
He was in the Coachella vlog. Stay at the Coachella house. House has a new, like, retail store. Like is the most successful, like, interior design influencer. Has your own rug collection. Lone Fox. We gotta dump him. Like, come on, girl, let's get it together.
- [133:49]
Trisha Paytas
It's hard, I guess, when you're like friends with someone and they just stay keep saying stupid things. Like, maybe he sees a different side of him that we just don't see. But we maybe, maybe need that rebrand. Maybe we need the rebrand of like, is there a good side to James Charles? We haven't seen it yet, but we maybe need to see that sign. The non deviant devilish side. Because deviant has a bad connotation to it. I meant it in a nice way. No, I didn't. Alright. My manager over there is still looking how to get in the K pop charts for me. But I guess we'll continue that on our extended patreon.
- [134:25]
Oscar
It'll be charting soon.
- [134:26]
Trisha Paytas
I would love that. Thank you, guys, guys for being here. No hate to anyone involved. This is all for entertainment purposes and we'll see you soon. We'll see you in a couple days back here on Hot Topics. Love you guys. Bye.