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The Beauty Community’s Dramageddon 3 + James Charles Is Desperate... | Just Trish EP. 280
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No, I know. No, no, I know the girls. They'll find your receipts, baby. How hard is it to be silent? Big brother just said be. Remain silent. Like it's my favorite.
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A
I was, I was. I was so annoyed cuz those little boys were menaces. Her name is. Queen and says what everybody thinks. She's just. Hello. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. Oh my gosh, it feels so good to be back. We haven't seen each other in eight days.
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B
That's a long time for us.
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A
We were. And we're like, we. Before we, like, May was crazy. So we were like just kind of like stacking episodes because, like Disneyland, we'd be like, back to back and then this. We were like back to back that we were just seeing each other so much. Then all of a sudden I was like, I haven't seen Oscar. And here you are. And it's so weird and surreal to see you. Everybody wanted you. This is my first show back from the uk and literally halfway through the show, someone's just like, Oscar. But everyone's just like, wow. Like, Oscar. And then they're like, wow. Everyone was like, so no way. People. People love you. I mean, you know this, but people really do love them some Oscar. And it made me miss you. And everyone's like, I have gifts. Actually, they're in my. I have to get them. They're like, people brought like little hearts for you. And yeah, people were bringing so much stuff for you. And I was like, oscar is the best. And I missed you too. And it feels so long. And before we get into it, I got to see Oscar's house. Patreon.com Just Trish, when I tell you, I think I was telling Moses. As soon as I got in the car, I told Moses. And when I got home, I told him. I'm like, I think you. I was so, so gagged. But it's obviously this beautiful, gorgeous. Like, it's an insane house. Like, it's the most insane house I've ever seen. But the energy was so good. It was so. Oh my God. Like, everything felt. It felt like a movie. I felt like I was on Wisteria Lane. Literally, like, it was just like, this, like, pocket that I've never seen before that's just, like, gorgeous. And everything about it is like, I really need you to go see a mo. This. I need everyone to go see it.
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C
And I was like, here's the address.
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A
I was telling because my sister. My mom wanted to come, because I was. I think my sister was there that morning. I want to see it. Like, Well, I don't know if it's, like, one of those things, but it's such good. Will protect your energy. It's so. It's like. It's like a magazine. It's like, I just. I've been to so many influencer houses, and I've never seen one so perfect, so clean, so beautiful energy. The way it's, like, laid out these, like, multiple steps, and then even the one that's supposed to be like, the primary bedroom that you guys are using as, like, a. Like a living, almost like a living room is insane. It looks like Peter Pan's room where he's, like, flying out the window, and you're like, oh, yeah. It's like storybook. And now that we post stories, I know the. And I'm just like, it makes me. It's just so insane. Like, I want to live there. It's my inspiration. Yeah, I will. It's. Oh, that'd be a good challenge. 24 hours in Oscar's house, living there.
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C
Because you have a little house swapping.
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B
Oh, yeah. A little house swap. That'd be cool.
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A
I would love that. Actually, we should do that because you were. They have a little booth. I mean, they kind of have everything that little hidden anyways. I don't give too much away, but if you guys really go see, I'm patreon. But it is just actually, like, good entry. Besides it being, like, the most beautiful house I've ever seen. Like, it is just, like, good energy in there. It's amazing. I just love seeing how people live. It felt very, like, remember, like, room raiders back in the day? I felt like that, but I was just like, wow. This is. It's amazing. I'm very happy for you. I can't wait for the housewarming. There is my. My gift was supposed to be delivered today, but I think it's coming on Saturday anyways. I'll text Darian about it, but.
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B
Okay. Excited.
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A
You look so good. Good, too. Like, what did you do differently?
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B
Nothing.
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A
Wow, you look refreshed. I guess it's just, like, we've been having, like, a week off. Did you get any time Off.
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B
No, I had to work on Memorial Day? That. Yes, Memorial Day. I get the holidays confused sometimes. But why? It was the American Music Awards. I know. You were seated for those, honey.
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A
I didn't even know what's happening.
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C
I don't even know what that is.
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A
Huh. Yes, I did see them perform in that big, giant, pink, fuzzy.
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B
Yes.
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A
Teddy bear. Yeah, I did see that.
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B
It was fierce. It was a lot of cat's eye, though. I. I literally was editing cat's eye from 1pm to 9pm Strictly cats. That was the only videos I did.
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A
That's all I've. I've seen. Well, and the Ezra Sosa on the carpet, was that the AMA I sent to you?
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B
Yes, that was also ama.
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A
Did you edit that one? No, it was entertainment, though.
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B
It was ET and poor Ezra, you guys. The spirit of jojo Siwa, his bestie, possessed him because all of a sudden, Ezra was silly goofy on the carpet. And we love. We love, we love Ezra Sosa, your future ballroom partner.
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A
Like, I would do that. I'm too nervous to do it, but I would love to do that on the carpet. That's like the gag, because you go. And it's so awkward. Like, all these, like, photographers and videographers, and they're all, like, old white men that, like, don't care who anybody is really on these carpets. Like, they're just like, who's this? So I love the fact that he's like, I'm gonna get all these movements. Him, like, jumping. Him, like. Like, I love it.
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B
The problem is they were, like, hyping him up because the photographers, like, yell directions at you, like, when you're posing. So, like, do a little jump. Do a little dance, I think. Oh. And he just. And, like, they also. I think they just get a little high out of it by just, like, telling him to do silly poses.
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A
I wish they would tell me to do silly pose. They don't say nothing. That's quiet when I'm there. I'm just, like, so sorry.
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B
It's like the chapel roan effect. They're scared you're going to, like, yell at that storm.
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A
While anybody in the future, please, if someone was directing me, like, jump. Do this, I would be going. I'd be quite. I'd be on my head. I'd be doing headstands. Like, I. I wish I had the confidence to do that. I'm so insecure at those things. I loved it. I was gagging for Ezra's moment. It was everything. It was great. Well, you look refreshed. Anyways, even if you're not. Also, good to see you again, Moses. It's been a while.
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C
I've been sitting here, waiting five days here in this town.
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A
You were waiting five days. I didn't see for Fridays. I didn't have Moses cooking for five days. And now I feel. I feel like I'm. Now it's like, overcompensating, where I just feel like yesterday he was just making all my favorites, like, breakfast sandwiches. And then we had the good lunch, and then we had the steak.
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C
We landed into bolognese. I landed into bolognese, woke up into breakfast sandwiches.
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A
I was hungry.
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C
And then powered through lunch into Stonewall.
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Oh, my best. Go check out Moses cooking videos. I was so, so good. It feels like when you go to, like, a restaurant, you know, those influencers, like, oh, can I get, like, free food in exchange for, like, a collab post? That's what I feel like when Moses makes my favorite meals. I'm like, let me link. Let me link to your. Because it's. He puts so much time and effort, and then he's just like. Then he has to go make a whole separate dinner for, like, Malibu and
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C
Elvis for each kid.
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A
Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, you want pasta? Oh, okay. But then Elvis eats shrimp. And Malibu, she has some steak with me. So she'll eat some steak. It's just like, yeah.
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C
Cause I saw Malibu eating steak, and I was like, wait, she didn't have any. Just meat. So I was like, do you want some noodles? And then Elvis, actually, yesterday, Aquaman had orzo in pesto sauce, and he loved it. He devoured it.
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He's ready. He'll eat the tomahawk stick. He eats it with the bone. He'll eat the pesto. He'll eat the bolognese. He'll eat everything.
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C
But it is nice to finally. Cause we always cook and you show it. People always ask me, like, how do you do it? Or questions or things. I'm like, here's the recipe. Go.
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Yes.
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C
And then people make it, and it's fun.
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I've heard tell you. Ronnie was gonna tell you. He said he loves your cooking videos too. He says he. Your voice is very relaxing. He watches it. He made the Bolognese. He made the one where you put, like, a cream in the sauce. I don't know what. He's something. They love it. It's a hit the most cooking videos. Good to see you. It's been a while. I missed you.
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C
I missed you.
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A
They also were cheering for you, of course. They were cheering your name and they were like, woo. You know, they were excited to see Moses. Rosie was singing I love you, Moses outside the Rosie o'. Donnell. Outside the stage door. She was just singing I love you. She was amazing. The whole I. It was the best. The UK was the best. I wanna. I think we have to move the podcast there. You might have to. You can do Entertainment Tonight while you're sleeping. While you're. There's like over here awake. You could be doing it overnight shift.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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That'd be actually everything. Then you'd be up and awake. It was so much fun. Minus the food, but hey, skinny. You know what I mean? Like, I couldn't eat anything, but other than that, everything was perfection. It was so, so good. It was so fun. Thank you guys for coming to the. Sold out. We sold it out. The Royal. I guess it was like there was boxes that. Some boxes were open because, like, they just can't. They won't sell them if it's like people that own them. But the people that. The boxes they could sell, they sold. It was completely sold out. It was very exciting. Everyone is singing I love you, Jesus. It was, it was Happy birthday, Elvis. Happy Birthday.
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C
That's the first thing we saw because we were like just squirreling suddenly that the first video that came up, everyone singing Happy birthday, Elvis. So I showed her that.
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Yeah, I missed Elvis's birthday was Sunday of the show. And again, originally we planned to all go over there. So I was like, okay, I'll be with her on her birthday. That was hard. That was hard. But it was nice that everyone sang it and Elvis got to see it, which was very exciting. Yeah, it was a lot. How was the quartet and string quartet was amazing. They were doing freaky Bridgerton style shout out Ed Harcourt, shout out Geeta and Amy and Amy and Jess. They were so good. Amy tours with Lily Allen. She was at the Orpheum. Yeah. Lily Allen has a quartet that opens for her. And one of my quartet players plays with Lily Allen. It was a small world. And then Lily Allen's personal assistant came. Shout out Wells. Like, it was just like very. It was a very small world. It was very cool. Got to meet Rosie o', Donnell, which was like, oh, my gosh. I was like, I cried when I met her. I cried. I think someone has it. I like literally cried because she was just everything to me. She was like back to when you
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B
were afraid to reference or you were afraid to say you were cosplaying Rosie because you're like, I Don't know how she's gonna feel about me, so I'm not even gonna say this is. Is it. Rosie o'. Donnell.
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I died. Well, that's. That's what I was scared of. And I. And I said it. I was like, we actually did a cosplay view. But everyone thought I was. Well, I was scared. And that's why I never, you know, the not opening DMs. I was very scared to open DMs from her because I was just like, oh, my gosh. Like, it's like almost to someone I looked up to too much, and I was just like, oh, my. But then she was, like, so nice and so sweet. Like, I met her before I met her after. She stayed through the whole thing. Like, she came up to me after. I was like, oh, she's like, at the beginning, I was, like, so nervous for the show. Everyone I was seeing, I was like. Because, again, I was singing live, which is, like, so insane. And then I was just, like, really, really nervous. Everyone I was seeing is like, I'm nervous. I'm so nervous. And at the end, she came up to me. She goes, I was nervous for you because you said you were so nervous. She goes, but, like, you did that. She was, like, so excited to be so proud. And it was. It was really cool.
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C
She hinted on stopping by here.
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Yes, possibly in the near future. I hope it happens, but I don't want to get too excited in case it does it, you know, my thing. But, yes, possibly be here would be great. She is everything. She was everything and more in a world back in the 90s, early 2000. Like, it's kind of how it is now. Maybe worse, though, now with everyone being, like, so, so skinny. And everyone just had to be as skinny as possible. Like, and. And Rosie's open about doing a JLP one and stuff like that. And we're. We both were like, you know, it's not about being skinny, about being, like, healthier and stuff like that, but, like, she was, like, the beacon of, like, body positivity before body positivity was a thing. She was like, in movies. She was starting in A League of Their Own with Madonna. She was, like, in the Flintstones and Harriet. She was, like, at Broadway, she was doing all the stuff. Walnut being a size zero. And it's someone I looked up to a lot, and it meant a lot that she was there. And that was so much fun. It was just a fun, fun experience. I felt very far from home. But it was great. The quartet was great. It went Great. I knew all my lyrics except to Freaky. The first verse of Freaky I missed. I don't know how that happened. I performed this all the time when we were rehearsing. It was perfect. As soon as we were there, I was like, oh, freaky, easy. We got it. Like, we just. Every time we did, it was so perfect. It started and I forgot the words. And I don't know. I think I sang verse two, twice. And I don't know how that happened, but once again, that string quartet playing with music. Titanic. They were playing with me. No matter what. We're going down. We're going down. Playing, even starting my life. I have a little video that plays behind me and it's like synced so perfect and I don't know what happened. I just added like another verse or I think I added another chorus in there. And they just kept playing. But the video had, like, stopped because the video was like, to a certain amount of time. And they just kept playing with me. They're like, oh, you're doing another chorus. Like, let's do it. They were. They were wonderful.
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C
That's the beauty of life. It was great because, I mean, the band follows the lead, the singer.
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I don't know how, like. Because, like, they're so. Like, you're in the rhythm. How do they know? He's just like hearing me go to a second. Another chorus. So he's just like, okay, we'll repeat the chord.
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C
Like, they have a structure in their mind for a song, so they just know how to keep going. But it's like, you know from Jim Morrison at the Doors, and, like, they would just go off and the band has to kind of follow around and figure it out.
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And it was great. That was cr. That was the most impressive thing. It's in the strings too. Like, having to follow. Because then they're like, okay, now we're switching. Like, how do you even know what notes to play? Like, I don't know. It's so crazy. To me. It's like, so. It was. That was the most mind blowing thing. It was the best night of my life. Truly. The best performance, the best crowd, the best fans. Like, hands up. Maybe it's because I haven't been there. Maybe it's like the first time being there. So it's like such a. It's such a gag. But it was. It was wonderful. And I am still feeling good about it. It was so much fun as I was flying over there. Sarang. Hey went to number two. The episode we filmed, I think you were 45? Yes. My sister was here that morning and Mo's like, oh my God, you're 45 in the charts. I was like what? Like what do you mean? And then literally the next day is when I was traveling and all of a sudden I'm like number two on the K pop, right behind Hunt Tricks for Golden, like above bts, above Rose for the Opta Apta song which my kids love. Which is why I like did this in the first place. Like it was so crazy. What was it in Pop Tarts? It was like number 10 in pop and overall was like 49 or something like that. 50.
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C
Yeah. Just in a general charts like of music. Like you were there with Michael Jackson.
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So insane. Yeah, me and Michael is like human nature and me, granted it's a 40 year old song but I'll still be there. You know what I mean? I was, I was so happy. I was like oh my gosh. I was getting like all these calls at the time. The people who produced it. I was like, okay, we gotta do another one. We gotta do all this stuff like that. I was getting so many calls and I was like on a plane. So I couldn't like take all the calls. But like literally Seoul was calling and I couldn't take it and I was like oh my gosh. I was trying to. It was, it was perfect cuz I got to play it live. But maybe, I think maybe Seoul will be in the very near future. So shout out to my South Korean fans. I'm. I'm coming. Did you see Eric Nam? Do you know from Traders? Yes, he did you see him use my sound not once but twice? No, he did the Anyang Haseo. Like Uni Trish. Like he's like my new song. And he did the. His new song which is called Miss me More. And he did it. And then he's like I'm Sonida. When he did my voice, that's so.
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B
Yes.
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And then he did the Saranghae with me singing on the set. He's like. And he was like lip sync it to me. It was so. And he's like feature. And then I like literally was like oh my gosh. When. Tell me how I can feature. Can you feature on mine? Because there is another one coming. There is a follow up. There was three in the works. Like I said I was gonna do a whole EP of four. So there's been three that's already kind of there. I do need to go back and re record because I do want my pronunciation to be perfect. Because people have been so kind. Shout out to my native Korean speakers and people who speak Korean. Like, I appreciate you guys so much. They were really, really sweet because I understand it's not perfect, but I was. I was happy with the. Hey, I can understand it. And that made me feel so good. So this next song is going to be so perfect. And I. It's gonna be. It's gonna be great pronunciation. I'm already looking into, like, you know, in the Bye bye Bye music video where the box is, like spitting them and they're sliding around like I. Or even High School Musical 3 where he's doing that. I was already asking Andrew. I'm like, how do I get. It's on a giant wheel. You have to get a generator that, like, wheels around. I think you also have to be kind of athletic. So I think we have to hire, like, a stunt person to, like, help me with it. Like, I think so. I gotta do Pilates. Yes. I'm trying to do it, though. I'm gonna try and do it. I. I really want to do it big. I don't know. Maybe Eric will feature. I don't know what's gonna happen, but I. I know the next one's gonna be even bigger, better. But I. I sat on hay, still going strong. And I. And maybe I'll go over soon to perform right there. Because I really loved performing it. I performed with this Drink a Tet, so I made it a little slower. But I think if I go over to Korea, I will do it with pop.
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C
Like, girly pop.
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Yeah.
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B
And you got to have like the fan cams and everything. I mean, you are the sole member of your own artist, so I guess the fan cams will just be you. But that's okay.
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That's fine. It can all be me. The light sticks are in production. The. What's the cards?
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B
Oh, the cards. The photo cards.
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The photo cards coming like, we are getting it all for you guys is going to be so amazing. I love it. I did not know. I had no idea. Sometimes the best ideas are when you don't even think. Sometimes I think I have an idea and I'm like, this is gonna hit so big, this one. I truly was like, I don't know. I loved it. I was excited for it, but I didn't know. And I appreciate it. And I think it's. I think it's. I think it's good. I think it's gonna continue to be good.
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B
And it's an earworm for sure. It's like always in My head.
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A
Really? Oh, yeah.
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C
I hear it once and that' where am I?
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A
Close to Cat's eye for you.
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B
Ooh. I think you're coming up.
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A
Okay. Yeah.
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B
Who's your bias in the trish world?
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A
In the K pop world.
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B
Oh, in K pop in general.
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A
Yeah.
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C
It's different because you're like real K pop. They're like western K pop T. That's very true.
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A
That's crazy.
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B
But okay, well they sing all English.
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A
Oh, right, right. Okay. Okay. So as far as an all Korean.
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B
All Korean speaking.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I would say you then eyelets really coming up though, for me. But I would. They'll say you're number one, eyelets number two and be like Espa number three right now. Wow.
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A
I number one. I really like a band. They're kind of from like the early 90s. They were a girl group and I don't know how you say it. I don't know. I'm probably saying it wrong. It's like fin.k.l like Finkle but I don't know if that's how you like say it. But they're like this really cute like K pop and only ran a tick tocker referred me like was like, oh, it kind of sounds like this. It's like an early 2000s, like K pop group. And that's like a. That's my new inspiration is them. I don't know if they're still around, but I love them so much. So I've been going into like Y2K K pop because I feel like that may be where I'm better suited. I don't know if I can compete with like a cat's eye. You know what I mean? But. Or a blackpink but you need to
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B
really start promoting the choreo though. Your choreographer Cedric has posted the tutorials. You need to be doing the dance like every other TikTok.
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A
Like really?
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B
Girls who are like when they have a song come out and try to make a little dance trend. Oh, everything is using their own sound, doing their dance.
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A
That's crazy because were you. Did you tell me week you're like, oh, you have to make it a dance trend.
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B
Yes.
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A
And I was like, oh, I don't know if I should do that one. But you're right. Everyone's been doing it. I've been seeing so many, like K pop groups doing it. It's been like kind of insane. Cat's eye. I'm waiting for yours. They use every viral sound. But my theory is like, they may think it's Competition. Like, we can't be, you know, what's
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C
being the same record label.
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A
Yeah, I'm available. I. Okay. Like, not that I'm going because I do think independent artists is the way for me to go, but, like, was. I talked to Capitol and I think Universal Records reached out to me and they're like, we want to help with your next release. But, you know, we've heard about the music industry and I'm like, I think I'm just better suited as independent artists because they have ways to like blow it up and stuff like that. But I'm like, I think it kind of is just blowing it up on its own. I don't think I need this because you know what, you know what happens? They help you blow it up and then they take, you know, I'm not making any money off my music ever. But you know what I mean, they kind of just own you then, and they're like, you can't do anything else. So I like to have control over my. What's happening and you guys blew it up and that's all that matters. But it was cool to get like emails from Capitol Records and like Universal Music and I'm like, wow, all my dreams are coming true at 38.38k pop star. Everyone was like, wow, this is crazy. Usually it's like 15, you know what I mean? So a 38 mom of 3K pop star debuting. Yeah, debuting right. Mukbanging at that. I know I ate a cake and I do not know any reference, but everyone's just like, oh, like, she didn't put the cake down. And I'm like, I don't know what this refers to, but it had like 6 million views or something. It was like me eating the Cheesecake Factory cake. And it was before I even came out with Sarang. Hey. I had this footage because I was just like, you know, you know, when I did it, we went to boiling crab and then I was like, I really wanted. What did I want after boiling crab?
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C
The ice cream.
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A
Oh, I wanted the Costco swirl. But we had to get back because obviously we had to let our sitter go. And I was like, okay, we have to get back. So I was like, let me just like, let me just like deliver. Get a cake delivered from Cheesecake Factory. Those chocolate cakes. And I was just eating. I thought it was cute. And then the song like went like viral. Like two days later. I was like, oh, let me just do it to the song. So I don't know what it meant, but everyone was Very excited that I didn't put down the cake. But maybe they just met. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe there's a reference, something I don't know about. But I love a mukbang, because mukbang originated in Korea. I think some people were confused why
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B
I was just video.
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C
Like, the fact that you just broke in the middle to do a mukbang. Like, there was so. Yeah. Because, I mean, I think you have to understand a lot of new fans are coming that don't know your history. They know you from this song.
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A
Oh.
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C
So they don't know that this is something you do. That this is. You do more of that than K pop.
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Right, Right. That was my tie too, so.
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C
But it was fun. I think for them. It was refreshing. Interesting, you know, kind of like, I
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do like to eat. I do like to eat. And so it was interesting.
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C
I think it really definitely tickled their minds, you know, with this whole experience.
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A
Oh, well, I'm glad. I'm happy you guys tickle my heart, because I love.
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B
I flick my bean, everybody. Ye.
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A
I was just gagged. I was just so gagged. I just felt so, like. I don't know. I just, like, you know, I love. I just love all. I love so many cultures, a variety of cultures, levels of. And like, specifically, like, Korean culture. I just think is. Has such an impact on us in the US Here. Like, obviously, the beauty. Yesterday I went and got. I'm like, I'm going full Korean.
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B
Yeah, I see.
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A
I'm going full Korean. I was like, I know. I even, like, hesitated to post because I went yesterday to, like. But honestly, I went to this, like, case bar here. It's called Keglo down the street. And I Gorey hills. And the owner, her name's Jean, she was like. She's like, oh, I love your song, Sarang. Hey, like, how did you, like, learn Korean? Like, because she's Korean. And I was just like, oh, my God, I can't believe you know my song again. It was so. Because it's just like, a little spot here in, like, the valley. And she, like, knew. She had me sign the back of her thing. She, like, owned the whole slot. It was very cool. But I had a Korean head spot. Have you ever had one of those? Tan told me about it, actually. Weirdly, when I was recording Sarang, hey, we talked about not love lying. Because she's like, oh, I'm at a Korean head spot. And I was like, oh, weird. I'm like, recording a Korean song right now, like, it was so weird. And then so it's. It's like, I'll show before and after Jimmy, remind me. I always forget he asked for the dog sniffing one. Too late. Because the dog sniffing your hair. Well, we can run it in this one. But it was like I fell asleep at like 5pm when I came back. And then Jimmy's like, oh, at 7pm he's like, can you give me the dog sniffing? It was really cute. Anyways, if you want to see Mucky sniffing Moses's hair, it's right here.
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C
It's from the last.
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A
Oh, yeah, you probably had it. Yeah, I was sleeping. It was the day I slept from 5pm to like 3am but remind me before and after is. It's basically like there's so many, like, dead skin cells on your hair. Like dry skin, dead skin, the build up. Do you do a double wash when you wash your hair? Oh, okay. Where did you fear that technique? I've never done this.
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B
I. I just do it because I think it doesn't get in there enough. I didn't know it was a whole thing.
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A
It's a whole thing. Well, yeah, you should do with like a clarifying all that stuff like that. But the head spots and they have this, like, halo. There's like water halo that washes your hair. I'll show you. But you, like, lay down. It's like this water and you. Because it's just like the best. And they like, really get in there. And like. And anyways, I have, like, no dead skin. My hair was, like, softer. It promotes, like, hair growth. It has like, all this great stuff. I did that and I also did like a glow yesterday. It's amazing. And also with your skin too. Korean skincare says to double cleanse, to go in there with an oil and then to go in there with, like a foaming cleanser. And I've been. That was also my hyper fixation over in England. I went to all. There was so many Korean beauty stores. There was like, soul beauty and there's so many. I was going to Olivet. I know. They look so beautiful. All the people on TikTok were glowing. And I was like, well, this is beautiful. And then it let me down this.
- [24:04]
C
So I was gonna say when you called, she FaceTimed, and I was like, what happened to her face? Like, she was glowing, right? I was like, you know, maybe it's the England sun or lack of sun. Like, what's happening? I didn't know. And then after that, I saw your Tiktoks about using those products. But I mean, your face, you were glowing.
- [24:26]
B
The bubbles you were making though, with the face wash, I love. That was humongous.
- [24:31]
C
That's our kids favorite. They want to do that now. And I'm like, you can't do that. It's not. You can have the regular bubbles.
- [24:36]
A
It was crazy. I don't know what the science behind that is. Like, how did that. How come they were so huge and why didn't they stop?
- [24:42]
C
Because the soap is just a strong film, but you're just breathing through it.
- [24:46]
A
It's like, what do you mean? I wash my face with soap and it doesn't do that.
- [24:51]
C
But this one, it's almost like slime, right? It's like the soap is so strong.
- [24:54]
A
It was so strong I couldn't even get off my face and I couldn't even breathe. The bubbles were just going. It was so much fun. I know the time you have when you're like, I had like four days and I was. It's so weird to be like so quiet. I was telling Moses, like, it's such a. The culture shock isn't country to country. The culture shock is like having three kids under three to like being in silence. And then you're like, what do I do with my time? So that's why I was like, let me just do all these face treatments and stuff. And that's when the bubble thing happened. It was. Thank you so much to DraftKings for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. What do you get when you combine bingo style bonuses and slots? Cashingo DraftKings Casino is the exclusive place to play Cashingo slots. New casino players play $5 and get 1000 Flex spins. Claim 50 spins a day for 20 days on your choice of over 100 slots, including the exclusive Cash Shingo collection. Download the DraftKings casino app and sign up with code Just Trish to claim your flex spins and exclusive experience. Cashingo the feature you can't play anywhere else. The crown is yours. In partnership with DraftKings Casino Gambling Prom, call 1-800-GAMBLER in Connecticut. Help is available. For promo gambling, call 888-789-7777 or is it ccpg.org Please play responsibly. 21/physically present Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only. Avoided Ontario eligible restrictions apply. Non resolve spins issued at 50 spins per days for 20 days. Valid for select games only and expire each day after 24 hours. See terms@casino.draftkings.com promos ends July 22nd at 11:59pm Eastern Time. Thank you so much to DraftKings for sponsoring today's episode. It was a crazy experience. It was wild. But Shout out. Shout out to Honestly Korean culture for giving us beauty over here. Honestly, Mikayla's always over there with her POV. Do you hear that sound on TikTok where it's like, guys, I'm going to Korea. This is my first time in Korea.
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B
Yeah, of course I've heard that. Oh, you have all the compilations of Mikayla saying that. Get ready with me to go to Korea. I'm going to Korea. Get ready with me to have dinner in Korea.
- [26:46]
A
That's gonna be me. That's gonna be me real soon. I'm coming over Korea. I'm very excited. I gotta start duolingo. Duolingo. I love you, but you really need to start because sometimes you have to read the. The symbols, the Korean symbols, and I don't know how to read that, so I wish they would do more how it's spelled out, but I'm getting there. It's hard, huh?
- [27:04]
C
Phonetic or you mean.
- [27:06]
A
Yeah, like a phonetic version.
- [27:08]
C
They don't have.
- [27:08]
A
Well, not even phonetic. Even if it was just in, like, the Alphabet. Yes, yes. Anyways, that's my only critique because I want to learn on there, but I can't. But, you know, I shout out to the tiktokers. There's always tiktokers. That's like, here's. Here's phrases you should know when going to Korea. So I've been trying to, like, learn those phrases too. There's so many of. Of you guys out there. So I really love the. The algorithm that I'm on right now. Thank you, everybody, for making them.
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C
Is your song Benihana?
- [27:35]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [27:36]
C
And obviously all the appearances now on hacks because you were in hacks again too.
- [27:40]
A
Shout out Ms. Mojo for doing the top five Trish cameos on TV. That was crazy. Three of the five were like, in the past year. It was. It was hacks, Euphoria, snl, Modern Family, and Nathan for you, those were the top five. So thank you.
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B
You need to link up with this social media influencer. Her name is Rachel. She actually commented on Sarangheim when it came out. But she went to Korea to. I think this is her lore. I could be getting it wrong, but she went to Korea to teach English and then she ended up like, is she married? Oh, yeah, she is married. She married a K. Pop idol. It was like a whole thing. Yeah.
- [28:21]
A
Oh, my gosh. How?
- [28:23]
B
I don't know the full low. I just know the headline and I know because that's like my life story.
- [28:30]
C
I came here to learn English. Marry the K pop idol.
- [28:35]
B
It's very. That. Yeah. Rachel Kwan.
- [28:38]
A
Wait, that sounds familiar. She did use my sound.
- [28:40]
B
Yeah, she's like a tiktoker. Instagram.
- [28:42]
A
Oh, I think I saw. I think I saw her. Yes, yes, yes. Do you know her?
- [28:45]
B
Just oomphies.
- [28:46]
A
Yeah, yeah. Shout out to all the beautiful tiktokers who are lip syncing and dancing to myself. It was beautiful. Yes, I did see it. She live over there now?
- [28:54]
B
Yes, I think. And she lives with her husband and he's like an idol. He did. He covered Saranghae. Like he was one of the guys that come to sit on.
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A
Oh yes, of course. No, they were one of the first. And when I was at the airport, I saw it.
- [29:05]
C
I remember that one. Yeah, she has a word. A million followers or 2 million.
- [29:09]
A
Yeah, I know. I remember seeing it and being like, wait, this sounds. It sounds so good when like K pop idols are obviously singing it. You're like, wait, this song is because so many people doing acapella. So many people. And it sounded so good and so I was like crying when people were doing it. Or even like dancers who are like real, like amazing. There's a K pop cover dance troupe they do like and they're here in la. I think they're at USC or something like that. They did it and I went to their page and they have like a million followers as well. And they're always dancing like K pop songs. I want to hire them in my next music video but they're here in la. It's like so cool. So yeah, shout out. Rachel. Thank you so much. I loved it too. I love that they learned the words right. It's like there was another guy who only had one tick tock and it was him singing Saranghae and it was so beautiful. And the fact that they like learned the words, I don't know, like it's a new song and you know, they love the lyrics.
- [29:56]
C
I mean, in general, when I see the lyrics, they're pretty. I mean it's really beautiful lyrics.
- [30:00]
A
It's a beautiful. I know. Well, that was the other thing too. When I was getting all the songs, I wanted to like see the lyrics and the translations, what it, what it means and everything that it is was really beautiful and fun and yeah, my
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C
favorite post where people are in stores, airports and places and the song is playing.
- [30:14]
A
It was in a Pop Mart. It was playing in a Pop Mart, which was really cool. I was. When I went into the Soul Beauty in London, they were literally like, oh, my gosh, I love song. It was so crazy. The song had just come out two days before insane people on the street were saying it. It's never happened to me before in my life. And I was.
- [30:28]
B
I heard you were trending on Boyfriend tv.
- [30:31]
A
Why is it. What does that mean?
- [30:34]
C
What is that?
- [30:35]
A
Oh, it's Boyfriend tv. What is it?
- [30:40]
C
You mean I'm Darian.
- [30:41]
A
Is it real? Oh, I guess. Like, what's Boyfriend tv? Tell me.
- [30:47]
C
I think Darian has his own tv.
- [30:50]
B
Let's just say it's a frisky adult homosexual website.
- [30:55]
A
Oh, okay. As long as it's homosexual. I thought it was, like, some weird. Okay. Love that. It's like the Grinder, but over where? Here?
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B
International, baby.
- [31:05]
A
International. Okay, if we can't have Grinder here, I'll take that. International Grinder all day. Boyfriend tv. I also love how cutesy it is. It sounds cutesy. When you said it, I was like, oh, I love that. Okay. They loved it. They love the song.
- [31:15]
B
I heard. That's what I heard. Yeah. I did have one qualm, though, with one of your Instagram stories now.
- [31:21]
A
Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.
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B
I have never been so puzzled and bamboozled. When you posted a screenshot of you watching the Story of My Life music video by One Direction, and it was a screenshot of Louis Tomlinson, and you said, who is this? Does anyone know? And the concept of you posting a screenshot of One Direction Story of my life. And then asking who one of the members are, who we talked about, like, a dozen times, but then also just, like, not looking up the members of
- [31:49]
A
One Direction, I was like, it didn't look like him. That's why I was like, wait, it wasn't from the music video? Was it from a performance or something?
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B
I thought it was a music video.
- [31:57]
A
Was it? No, I swear. No. This looks like JC chose. And I was like, where this person come? No way. Did you screenshot it?
- [32:04]
B
I sent it to Jimmy, and I was like, what is going on?
- [32:07]
A
Why try to DM that person? I was trying to DM the person in the. In the thing, and everyone's like, it's Louis Tomlinson. And I was like, that doesn't look like him. Okay. Verify people at home. Because I would think people are trying to mess with me or something like that. Because obviously I Googled One Direction members, but I don't remember talking about Him. I don't remember seeing him.
- [32:25]
B
Video. And the video you're watching is Just One Direction Dash. Story of my life. And you said what? Who is this? Question mark. What's his name? Question mark.
- [32:35]
A
So who is it?
- [32:36]
B
Louis Tomlinson, actually. Yeah. What do you mean?
- [32:39]
A
I feel like you're also trying to troll me because it doesn't look like him. I typed in Louis Tomlinson 12 years ago. He's on tour right now. I DM'd him. I wanted him to be my special guest. Yeah, he's like, oh, I'm on tour right now. Oh, wow. I know.
- [32:52]
B
I was like, dang is big, though. Our reply is huge.
- [32:54]
A
He didn't reply.
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B
Oh,
- [32:58]
A
I did send it, though. I sent one to him and Harry and Niall.
- [33:02]
B
Zara Larson was in the uk, but she had a performance the same night. Otherwise, I think I did see that too.
- [33:08]
A
She was at a festival. Meg Hilty was over there. Everybody was over in the UK at that time. People Love Story, My Life. I thought it was kind of niche.
- [33:16]
B
Well, you also thought the original artist was Joey Griseldo.
- [33:19]
C
Okay. So this time it happened to me.
- [33:21]
A
Oh, yeah. It happened to my.
- [33:24]
C
No, I see a TikTok of her singing in the song. So she showed me the video before she left. So I knew the video and I was like, oh, this must be one of the songs she hasn't released yet. And she made for this show to go with that video. I had no idea. I never heard the One Direction.
- [33:39]
A
Then you saw the TikTok version.
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C
That's what I'm saying. I saw the TikTok version.
- [33:44]
B
Oh.
- [33:45]
C
And there was one comment that was like, oh, it's nice to hear Joey Graceff original.
- [33:50]
A
So then Mo's like, oh, is that because I know when I showed you the music video, I didn't know you didn't know the song either. But I. I know it from Joey. That's what made me want to get me into music videos. I was like, andrew Allen Hein signed me up. I loved the song. It always made me cry. Even the Joey Graceffa Luke Hannard version. And I, like, loved it. I thought it was so beautiful. And then it was amazing in your show. Yeah, People really well, I Sort of a really cute video that goes with it. It's very emotional. It's like literally starting my life because my book is coming out. So I was like, oh, what's. What's a song that can tie into the book before crying on the kitchen floor? And then I thought, oh, my God. Story of My life is, like, so there. So I was telling people. I was like, I don't know if you guys, like, know this song. Like, I don't know, but, like, it's one of my. It's like. It's like a deep cut, you know? And all of a sudden, everyone just started singing every song, every word with me. I was like, oh, my God. From the beginning, from the verse, everything that. And of course, I got that first line wrong. They're written in these walls of the story that I can't explain. I said, written in these walls. I think I switched it. I was like, other colors that I can't change or so I don't know what it was because everyone started singing and it was overwhelming me. And all of a sudden, like, oh, my God. Everyone, like, knows this so much, and people. It was fun. It's. You know what? My shows give karaoke a little bit, but it's fun because everyone's singing with me. It was crazy. Everyone was on their feet for Story of my Life. I would love to sing it with one of the Run Direction boys. I don't know who's out there. Louie Tomlinson. You're very handsome. I did not know that was you. I thought that was. But you're great, and I think that you're amazing. I think he's on tour right now. I think he's here and in, like, June. Maybe we should go see him.
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B
Oh, yeah.
- [35:06]
A
I feel like a tie to him somehow. I feel like there was like an invisible string to him somehow, because I kept seeing him. I kept wondering who that was. And I was like, that guy is. That guy. Seems nice. It was his lore. Married to anyone famous, Have a baby.
- [35:19]
B
Does he have a baby now? How do you not know?
- [35:22]
A
One deer or just a hairy. Harry and Nader.
- [35:26]
B
Yeah. Freddy in 2016. Yes, I remember he was the first one to become a dad.
- [35:30]
A
16. How old is he?
- [35:31]
B
Yeah, he is. I think he's the oldest one. He's 34.
- [35:37]
A
What? He looks like 12 and now. That's crazy. Oh, my God, he looks so good.
- [35:43]
B
Yeah, he. He was one of my faves early on. I did have a doll of him. I had a doll of Harry and Louie and Liam. I think those are. My original order was Liam, then Harry, then Louis, because Louis, back in the day, 1D girls, you know, he had a. Like, he had a fatty. Like, he had a big butt. And there's this infamous photo of him in a wetsuit, like, on the beach, like a paparazzi photo. But it Looked like a. Like a photo shoot where he just, like, looked so good and his butt looked really good. And I was like, oh, he's. He's moving up the.
- [36:15]
C
The.
- [36:16]
B
My roster. So. Yeah, okay, that's number three.
- [36:18]
A
Got it. What was his place in the. In the group? You know, there's like a bad boy and like the cute one. What was his place?
- [36:25]
B
He was pretty. He was a sweetie. I think he was like the older one for the group and he was shipped with Harry Styles. Don't get me started on Larry Stylinson, but it's the gay shit between Harry and Louis that they both hate. They both hate this.
- [36:43]
A
Wait, why?
- [36:44]
B
Because I think people really believed it. It was like mass delusion, you know, or potentially mass psychosis because everyone was starting to think it was real, but they were never a thing. Never a thing. But everyone wanted it to be. But I think it was like people wanted it so bad and they couldn't escape it, but they weren't feeling each other like that. So it was just like an annoying.
- [37:07]
A
I thought it was him and Niall. No, no, it was Louis. So Louie's the second cutest next to Harry.
- [37:14]
B
I mean, that's very.
- [37:15]
A
Well, I think Louie's number one. I think. I'm just saying. But in. In. In the looks of the world, it's like a Justin Timberlake and JC back in the day because no one likes Justin like anymore. But like, back in the day, it was like Justin, then JC.
- [37:25]
B
God, that is tough. 1D. Girls, you're gonna have to let us know in the comments because I know for sure Harry was number one. I mean, I don't know if this is just my personal experience, but for me, the. The top two were always Harry and Liam, and then everyone else was kind of like, I forgot maybe Zayn Zane was also up there for sure as well. In contention.
- [37:43]
A
No, there was a Zane in the group. Wow, there's so many. There's too many. Honestly, they all changed. They were all in her or. No, they all stayed the same.
- [37:50]
B
They all. Yeah, Zane quit pretty early and then five boys. Five boys, One dream, one direction. Right? Yeah. So, yeah, so it became a foursome when Zane quit and then they did one more album without him and then
- [38:06]
A
lost the sauce a little bit.
- [38:07]
B
Yeah, they just wanted a break. I think after that it was the thing where it's like, well, they'll get back together at some point. It's just a hiatus and then the hiatus. Yeah.
- [38:16]
A
One day, I think in 20 years, I get back to your boys. At the Sphere. Like, you know, you gotta give them like 20, 30 years.
- [38:20]
B
Well, Zane and Louis reunited and then that ended. Did terribly. So I don't know what happened. They got into an altercation, allegedly when they were filming a little reunion show for Netflix. The two of them, they're supposed to go, like, road tripping. And they got into an altercation.
- [38:33]
A
Zane and who?
- [38:34]
B
And Louis.
- [38:35]
A
Oh, the one that I like?
- [38:36]
B
Yes, the one you just found out.
- [38:38]
A
I love him. I love him. I DM'd and check your DM. I think he's my favorite. I think so. I. I thought he was gonna be my favorite because maybe he wasn't. I like to go for the one that, like, people don't love, like a Chris Kirkpatrick or Joey Fatone. Like, I always try to go for one of those, but I guess he's a lover. Loved ones. So I don't know. I guess they're all loved.
- [38:54]
B
Yeah, it is a little tough. I didn't know about this, but my ex, not boyfriend. I'll say. A situationship 2019. Like, randomly, he popped up in my, like, people you may know or whatever, like, suggested on Instagram. And then he was on the Voice on Team Nile.
- [39:12]
A
What?
- [39:13]
B
I know.
- [39:14]
A
I saw it. We watched every season. What's his name?
- [39:17]
B
Michael.
- [39:17]
A
School.
- [39:17]
B
I forget his last name, though. But he was.
- [39:20]
A
He forgot your ex kind of boyfriend situation.
- [39:22]
B
Well, it was short, so you don't remember his name?
- [39:25]
A
Last name?
- [39:26]
B
No. Michael. A white boy who had a little vibrato in him. I don't know.
- [39:32]
A
Okay. Did he sing to you?
- [39:35]
B
He sang, like, all the time. He was like one of those, like, you know when you can sing and you just. You can't stop singing, you know?
- [39:40]
A
Did you like? I love that, though. I love when people sing.
- [39:43]
B
I think if. If, like, you were me, you would have fallen in love with him because he's your type of gay guy for sure.
- [39:49]
A
Yeah.
- [39:49]
B
He's just always singing. A little theatrical.
- [39:52]
A
Yeah.
- [39:52]
B
Love Schitt's Creek. He loves. He, like, made me watch Schitt's Creek and I think that's why I don't like Schitt's Creek because, like, I remember he made us watch, like, two episodes and I never, like, vibes with him.
- [40:01]
A
I dated him. I definitely wasn't a gay musician.
- [40:04]
B
Your ideal gay guy. Wow. Yeah. And then Team Niall, like, that's like your ideal gay guy.
- [40:08]
A
Yeah. Damn.
- [40:10]
B
You definitely, definitely watched because it was like 2023 or 2024, so you definitely watched.
- [40:16]
A
Yeah.
- [40:17]
B
This was your peak, Niall I was
- [40:18]
A
into Nile, the voice, all that. I. I really love him, too. Maybe we could. They're all on tour now. Like, they're all. I think Zayn's on tour. Everyone's on tour now. I was trying to get somebody to come to the show, but I think they're on tour.
- [40:27]
B
Yeah, they all are on tour. Zayn had to cancel some of his tours. That was a whole debacle, too, here in North America. Yeah. Because his mental health and I think physical health as well.
- [40:36]
A
Well, actually, how's he gonna do the Europe tour?
- [40:39]
B
That's what everyone wants to know. He's been canceling a lot of dates. Poor guy.
- [40:42]
A
Well, people thought that with the puss cat dolls, too. They're like, wait, I thought they were rusting. And they were like, at the. What was that? Amas.
- [40:48]
B
Yeah.
- [40:48]
A
And their Oops, I did again outfit. People really don't like them, huh? They have a hate train against them right now. People are like, we don't want this.
- [40:55]
B
I think Nicole Scherzinger. I think the other two are taking the heat for Nicole because I've seen a lot of, like, girl at this time, at this age now share the spotlight a little bit. They performed at the AMAs, and Nicole had two spotlights on her, which is like, like, damn. You only got. You're only sharing the stage with who now, and you can't even, like, give them a little bit.
- [41:15]
A
That's so weird. Yeah. Especially. Don't you want. I feel you want a little pressure off of you. You don't want to be just the star the whole time.
- [41:20]
B
I think especially if, like, you were infamous for, like, you know, being. Wanting to be the soloist. How many pussies were there? Like, 12.
- [41:29]
A
So many OCD, the OG ones. BCD. Oh, geez.
- [41:36]
B
It's like you would think you'd want to, like, you know, make up for that a little bit and just give them. Give them a line or two, you know, somebody.
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A
I feel like, yeah. She's like, no, thank you.
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B
But they do have hits. My God. A little medley. I'm like, those songs are coming back to me.
- [41:48]
A
They were. Isn't that crazy? That just comes to show, though. It's like, if you're not, like, likable, all that talent. Because Nicole's also very talented. I saw her on Sunset Boulevard, and, oh, my gosh, like, she's never off stage, and she belts every single song, and it's like, the most amazing voice ever. If you've seen her do, like, Phantom of the Opera, she's amazing. Like, she is like an actually such talented singer. I think just something about her is she was very nice to me. I got to meet her. She's very nice. But there is an unlike ability or unrelatability to her that people, I think, disconnect with somehow. Maybe like you said, just the. Because there's confidence. Obviously, she knows she's an amazing singer and she's beautiful. So there's like confidence and then there's arrogance and they toe the line. And I do think men can get away with being arrogant more than women. So I do know the double standard here. But I think maybe her arrogance and knowing she's so beautiful and talented, people are like, ew. It kind of gives them the ick a little bit.
- [42:35]
B
But it's weird. Cause everyone kind of get behind a diva. Like, when Mariah is a diva, people usually live for it. But yeah, with her, for some reason, people want a little bit more vulnerability, a little more realness, which is interesting.
- [42:48]
A
She also, didn't she like Russell Brand's hat in a TikTok? She's like, oh, I love this hat. And everyone's like, it's Russell Brand. The whole thing was a little dicey. And then she kind of walked back a little bit and said, oh, I just like the hat. I'm Christian.
- [43:00]
B
Yeah, it was like a make America great again hatter.
- [43:02]
A
Oh, was it?
- [43:03]
B
Yeah, it was like political too.
- [43:05]
A
Oh, I thought it was like, I love God or something.
- [43:07]
B
It was something like that kind of political. And I obviously, like, her fan base is so gay. So.
- [43:13]
A
Right. And you're kind of like, what is happening?
- [43:16]
B
Like, the gay is still extreme. Buttons, like, the gay clubs are carrying buttons. Like they're getting you the royalties.
- [43:21]
A
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B
It was very random yeah. Yeah.
- [45:45]
A
Also, like, way past award season. Like, why are they doing awards now?
- [45:48]
B
Yeah. And on, like, a holiday too. And then it was also in Vegas, so there weren't, like, so many stars there. I feel like, because it was like, on a holiday also out of the way for people. Like, you got to do it when everyone's in town. Everyone's also on tour right now, so.
- [46:02]
A
Right. Yeah, it's on tour. Everyone is booked and busy.
- [46:05]
B
But yeah. Kazai won three awards. BTs were like, the big ones. It was like the big, like, comeback award show post.
- [46:12]
A
I think I'm bringing K Pop back all of a sudden. All these K Pop winners.
- [46:16]
B
Yeah. BTS heard so Dong Hae. They're like,
- [46:21]
A
I would love to collab with bts. They change out members, right? They do change out out members. No. Are you sure? I thought that's the whole thing is, like, people are changing out members.
- [46:31]
B
No, not bts.
- [46:32]
A
Oh, okay. So sorry. I just. I get my boy bands mixed up, but I am. I'm getting better.
- [46:38]
B
Think of which one you're thinking of.
- [46:41]
A
Menudo.
- [46:42]
B
How?
- [46:43]
A
Yeah, no, but, like, One Direction, I thought was switching out too. Like, I just thought boy bands switch out. I think Menudo did. I think possibly New Kids on the Block. God, there is a K pop band. I feel that switched out. When they would get too old, they would switch them out. So I feel like there is one in there.
- [47:05]
B
Probably none of the recent ones. I mean, there have been some that, like, lose a member. I don't know if they've, like, replaced, though. Like, there's definitely been some members that, like, been on hiatus or just left, but not, like, just a rotation.
- [47:20]
A
They're beautiful. I want to go through, like, a K pop idol, like, boot camp over there. Like, I want to be able to program.
- [47:26]
B
Yeah, it's tough.
- [47:28]
A
Oh, I want the softened version for over 35. I need a mature version. I would love to do what they do and look like what they look like. That'd be amazing.
- [47:37]
B
Yeah. I watched, like, blackpink's documentary on Netflix a while ago, and theirs wasn't about the program, but they talk about it. And then obviously, Dream Academy for Cat's Eye. They are living the trainee program, so you really see how crazy it is. Like, one of the girls shout out Lexi. She's in the new girl group, but she had to get a whole hip replacement while going through the trainee program. And then once she recovers, she had to get back to dancing. Isn't that crazy?
- [48:02]
A
How did she. Why she need a Hypervisor from dancing too much, huh? Oh, my God. Yeah, you know, me and my back, I'd be out all the time. Dang. Okay, maybe not. Let me get like a soft inversion. Yeah, maybe Hybe let me know. Hybe. Are they over there or are they here?
- [48:15]
B
Hybe has an office here. Because when they were doing the training program for Cat's Eye, the Dream Academy, it was in la, it was in Hollywood, so.
- [48:22]
A
Oh, really? Oh, okay. Maybe we could go try being K pop stars for a day. That'd be fun.
- [48:29]
B
You can ask Grant, Cat's Eyes choreographer who is your own fee. Yeah, because he works in like, he was training the girls for dancing.
- [48:36]
A
Wow. He might be a little busy, but true. But I'll reach out, you know, I reach out to One Direction. I'll reach out to him. You know, we can never. I love my K pop forever. We also can never stop this podcast. That's the other thing I was gonna say is when I was over in the uk, everybody was like, I did a meet and greet before and everyone was like, your podcast is like, it keeps me going. Like I was like depressed or I hated my job or work was tough, or I lost somebody in my life and like listening to your guys podcast, I'd put it on and like, it literally like just saved me from like loneliness and crying and depression. Cause you're just. It was just funny and lighthearted. I just love hearing you guys talk like, you know, Oscar Moses, like, it just like made me feel so good. I was like, we can never stop that. I'm gonna tell you that. Like, we can never stop this because so many people depend on it. And it really is not even what we talk about is what I found out. Because I was clearly, we're not. Well, you're a journalist. We're not the informants over here. But people were like, I sometimes have no idea what you're even talking about. And I just laughed. Yeah. They're like, I just like listening. I just like being on the journey. And I'm like that relieved. So much pressure for me. I was like, honestly, we could do this forever. Then if you guys don't really care what we talk about, because we can talk for hours, we can talk for five hours and it's wonderful. So I was also meant to tell you that, that we can never and will never stop it. It was really nice. I was like, damn, how many people, like love the podcast in the uk? You wouldn't think they'd be like, listening over there. So Many, like, lawyers. So many people who have, like, these, like, doctors, like, all this stuff like that. And just like, yeah, I listened through. All through law school, I was like, what? What do you mean? I'm so sorry you had to listen to that. Oh, my gosh. But.
- [50:09]
B
But my favorite UK Trish Lore moment right now that I see a lot on Tick Tock. I don't know if it's just my FYP or maybe it's taking over, but it's the clip of you from celebrity Big Brother uk when it's like, Big brother says to be silent, and then you look over to the boys who are talking behind you. How hard is it to be silent? Big Brother just said be. Remain silent.
- [50:32]
A
Like, this is Big Brother housemate must remain silent. Remain silent. Like, it's not that hard. I don't like you. We keep thinking that. Just remain silent.
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B
It's my favorite.
- [50:47]
A
I was. I was so annoyed because those little boys were menaces. They were menaces to me the whole time, like, tormenting me. And all Big Brother shows is me being mean to them. I think to the one little blonde one, I was like, I have followers, and they're gonna rip you apart if you're mean to me, if you accept me. And like, oh, that's all they show. And then Big brother calls me in for bullying. I mean, these two boys have been bullying me since I got here. They were, like, relentlessly mean and picking on me, my outfit, my hair. Like, just like, actually being mean. And they show me just, like, retaliating, which is what they do to women. They love to show women when they react. When I react to something, because even that they were just being annoying. And big. The Big Brother people were like, okay, if you guys can't stay quiet, like, we're gonna sit here. We were sitting there. Did I have egg on my head? I think I egg on my head. Like, no one can shower. No one can leave until there's. You guys are completely quiet. The two yappers in the back. And I was just like, just shut the up. And then. Oh, then I look like a crazy one. Well, I guess now it's like, now they get it. But I don't know who those boys were. They were annoying. They're from, like, a love is like, the one was like a hairy, jowsy type. Like, a love is blind type stuff. I don't know. It was. They were annoying. I don't know who they are, but I. That. That was my first introduction to British people, and I did not love it from that experience. But this time around I loved it. But yeah, I do see that. I think I redeemed myself in my Celebrity Big Brother days because that was luckily too. That was like 10 years ago and so many people, like, don't even remember because Gen Z, we're in control now.
- [52:05]
B
And yeah, the Comments on the TikTok I've seen are like, what show is this? Which is so crazy.
- [52:10]
A
Love it. Thank you. Thank God. Let's keep recycling it because that was diabolical. It was awful. And I had no food at the time, but it was a key. I do love the clips now. Very, very mentally unwell. I was really. When I look in there, there's also a clip of me walking and be like, where's the gay one? There was no gay guy in there. There's not one gay in that house. And I was like, what the hell is this? Like, I'm gonna have to live with all these. Like, it was awful. Just straight and you have to like, clean and no one was cleaning. So, like, all these guys would just like pee on the floor. And it was like one. Maybe we had two bathrooms and just pee everywhere. It just stunk really bad. Everyone was smoking and drinking. It was just. It was hell. It's not around anymore, right?
- [52:51]
B
Celebrity Big Brother, it took a break for a couple years and then it came back with JoJo season. That was the first one in a while. But I don't know if it's back again. I haven't heard anything.
- [53:00]
A
I would assume, yeah, maybe people don't care anymore. It's a weird show. No offense to the people of Britain, but I think I redeemed myself with this one. Everyone loved. Literally so many people on the street, even in the airport were like, loved Uniforia, like, people were. I was like, okay, like, I just thought you were messing with me. But even the mean girl. I was like, you were so good in Euphoria. I was like, that's so crazy. I literally had my one line, but I did the one line on stage and everyone went crazy. I was feeling very. What's the guy that does what's his? You remember who. There's a guy.
- [53:30]
B
Why gooey gooning were you gooning?
- [53:34]
A
There's like a clip of like. It's kind of like, do you remember those boys that were just like viral for like. God, was it Magcon? Is that it?
- [53:45]
B
They could do like anything. And the people was just like, yeah.
- [53:47]
A
And there's one where the person's like. And all the girls like, wow, because he's like, wait, wait, watch, watch. And everyone's like, you don't remember this?
- [53:55]
B
No. Well, I remember in general, but I don't remember that specific one.
- [53:59]
A
Oh, my gosh. And that's what I felt like because I was like, okay, here's my line, guys, from before. I was like, okay. And everyone's like, it was so much fun. It was actually so great. So I get the Meg Con Boys now doing the minimal for maximal cheer.
- [54:10]
B
That is so funny.
- [54:12]
A
I don't even know how you would look that up. I don't even know.
- [54:14]
B
I know, Jimmy.
- [54:15]
A
Do you know? I feel like, do you know? Do you know what I'm doing where they're on stage? And he's like, okay, okay, wait, wait. And everyone's like, wow.
- [54:26]
C
Okay, is this like all the memes? Like people just doing their memes? Like people that are famous for memes.
- [54:31]
A
Maybe they're just like, good looking.
- [54:33]
B
Like Cameron Dallas, Jacob Sartorius, like, nice.
- [54:36]
A
Ash Greer.
- [54:37]
B
Yeah, it was that era.
- [54:38]
A
I don't. Yes, maybe. Wow. Were they all in there? No. Okay. Legends. Really. Icons. Only in that group. Some of them came out to be big things. That's pretty. You remember O2L? Do you think they were trying to be One Direction or were they trying to be Mekon?
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B
Did they come before Megcon?
- [55:00]
A
I don't know. I thought Mekon's new.
- [55:03]
B
No, I think. I think O2L was first.
- [55:06]
A
Right before One Direction.
- [55:08]
B
No, not One Direction. Oh, Mac on.
- [55:10]
A
Oh. They were the first boy group of YouTube.
- [55:14]
B
I think Five Awesome Gays was the first boy group of YouTube. I don't think people remember Oakley's group.
- [55:20]
A
Who else was in it?
- [55:22]
B
God, I'm forgetting. I know exactly who's like, he's a twitch. Streamer.
- [55:26]
A
Now I can name all O2L. Keyon, J.C. trevi. Wait, I know, I know. Ricky.
- [55:34]
B
Yeah.
- [55:35]
A
And.
- [55:35]
B
Oh, God, there was the last one. I know. I forgot about that one too, until I just saw the lineup.
- [55:40]
A
God. Wait, wait, hold on. Sam. See, I know, Ma. It's tonight. We're gonna raise some hell. You got me screaming like O2 out. Charlie Puth did their song for the tour.
- [55:52]
B
They were kind of like Michaela Negrera's favorite artist.
- [55:56]
A
Did you see him talking to her on stage?
- [55:59]
B
Michaela, you. God, I have so many TikToks. I was really on TikTok, I guess, while you were gone because I had nothing else to do and I was like, Mikayla kept doing get ready with me. To Steve Charlie Poo.
- [56:10]
A
Wait, really? I didn't see that one. My boyfriend is taking me on a date to see Charlie Poo. Anyone who has followed me for an extended period of time knows I love, love Charlie Puth.
- [56:24]
B
And, like, my boyfriend surprised me with tickets to see Charlie Booth.
- [56:29]
A
She is excited. She loves Charlie Booth.
- [56:31]
B
She's the number one Charlie puth stand. And we know that's made more sense. I did not know that about her, and I have never known a Charlie puth stand. But if anyone was going to be a Charlie Pooh stand, I guess Michaela.
- [56:40]
A
I was gonna say, I don't think I've ever met a Charlie Puth stand. Never fence. He has perfect pitch. We know. But, like, I didn't know there was Stan.
- [56:45]
B
I didn't know either. And she's the number one. And she was like, front row. It was a standing room only. No shade, but she was front row. Wait, what?
- [56:52]
A
Standing room only mean?
- [56:54]
B
It was just, you know, like one of the venues where it's like, ga, like first come first.
- [56:57]
A
And she was. But that means she got there early. She's like, I'm going first films from that angle because someone was filming in front of her. Who's filming that?
- [57:06]
B
That's a great question. I have no idea.
- [57:08]
A
And he didn't seem to know that she was there. I think he assumed she was, like, in a box or something. Because he was like, michaela. And she's like. He's like, oh, you're right there. Yeah, what's the lore? Does he know her? Because he's like, oh, I love your boyfriend. And I'm like, how does he know the boyfriend idea?
- [57:21]
B
I just saw her lose her mind over getting these tickets, and I was
- [57:25]
A
like, okay, I love Michaela, but this is one thing I don't know.
- [57:28]
B
I can't understand. We can forgive a lot, Michaela. We can forgive a lot. The get ready with me for divorce for all that stuff, but I don't know if I can.
- [57:36]
A
God, we need a little Michaela update segment. Michaela, this is all love. If any of the goofy goobers watch this, you know. I love you girls with all my heart. I want you on the podcast. All three of you can come. I only have one chair, but let's all pile in it. I love you girls. I love Michaela, but we have there is that. We missed a lot. We missed a lot because she had to get ready to divorce. Course she had the Charlie puth. She had the trend that I did with Moses yesterday. She's the one who I saw do it. Where it was like, I was confused when I saw her, and that's my wide trend. Have you seen that one where she's like. It's basically people like, I've been with this person for 11 years, and you say all the things you love them.
- [58:09]
B
I. Oh, I heard about.
- [58:10]
A
Yes. And she was like. Hers was like, you know, I've been with. We were high school sweethearts. Then he waited for me. He would pursue me, but I wasn't available. But we kept in touch, and he was emotionally. So everyone's like, this feels a little odd because it was kind of implying that he was, like, checking in on her. Yeah. It's always kind of there. And she was communicating with him during the marriage. All speculation. I know there's a Michaela hate train right now, so I suppose people are being nasty that Michaela hate.
- [58:36]
B
No is always a go.
- [58:38]
A
I think in my heart, I think she kind of. I wouldn't say enjoys it, but kind of, like, encourages it. Yeah.
- [58:45]
B
She is feeling that.
- [58:46]
A
She loves to know the tracks. Yeah. Like, the get ready with me divorce court is. Is pretty crazy.
- [58:52]
B
Yeah.
- [58:52]
A
But I also don't know if she was actually going to divorce court.
- [58:54]
B
So People magazine actually reached out to the court in her town, and they got a statement. Yeah.
- [59:03]
A
That's crazy, right?
- [59:05]
B
Well, you got to do your due diligence, I suppose.
- [59:08]
A
I mean, I don't know if we needed that exclusive, People. I don't know if we need to, like.
- [59:12]
B
A spokesperson for the Norfolk Probate and Family Court in Massachusetts confirmed to people on May 21 that there was an ongoing divorce case involving Nagara and Hawken, but declined to share more as records in the case have been impounded. Neither Hawkin nor Aret for Nagara immediately responded to People's requests for comment. So it actually did happen, which I actually was kind of gagged because I thought it was her kind of like. Like, trolling a little bit. But she actually was going.
- [59:39]
A
She was going in Chanel boots, Louboutin.
- [59:42]
B
That was crazy.
- [59:43]
A
But that was. She's like, I want to go in looking like, damn. I'm like, girl, I think we need to go in some colds. Just. Just so he's not like, well, actually, give me those boots, too. You know what I mean? It's kind of like. Because she did say, if you don't hear from me, it didn't go well. And then people like, so, what's the update? And she goes, well, I didn't say anything, did I? So I think it was like, I don't know what's real, what's not. Some people in the comments like, oh, because nothing. Some people are like, well, he was in her content. Yeah, it has become a little bit of a spectacle.
- [60:10]
B
But I suppose he blew up while they were together.
- [60:13]
A
Together, right. That's the thing too. If you're not. It's a tough one. It's a. It's a tough one. Like, I think the only part for me is like, oh, he was like, in her content. So did she blow up because of Cody? I don't think it's that, but like, I mean, I guess if he wasn't. I don't know. It's a big part of. That's why you gotta be careful. Gotta be careful putting people in your content because they could always come back for that. Did he help her in any way? I don't know, did he like manager? He did sell a truck for her. You know, like, if you sacrifice things. I don't know. I don't know. Did you have a prenup? Did she say, I don't know. I. But now everyone wants to know because. Why? Well, she was getting ready for divorce court and Lubadons and I was like, well, damn, this is a glow up from the elf wedding. Well, actually the wedding was fabulous. That was pretty good. But even that was a sponsorship, so does he get half of that sponsorship money?
- [60:53]
B
I didn't even think about.
- [60:54]
A
He's like, well, I was part of that marriage. I got that elf money.
- [60:56]
B
Yeah, I think it could definitely be argued. I mean, I'm no, you know, legal expert, but just like, logistically, if he. Cody was in Michaela's content inspired a lot of her content because how many, like, get ready with me for date
- [61:09]
A
nights or you know, the Armful. And that was its new. I think they're lovely. She known it from high school, but the new one too just. You just never know. You could. They could be the nicest person. You just never know. And you know, if they help you with their content, I don't know, I always think, yeah, it's a tough one. I don't know. Thoughts over there. As a husband to an influencer. I give money. I give almost all the money. You deserve all the money. You could have everything because I just.
- [61:37]
C
If you.
- [61:38]
A
You do everything.
- [61:39]
C
Where am I going? What do you mean?
- [61:40]
A
I don't know. If you wanted my. If you wanted any money, you could
- [61:43]
C
have all of it with them. I mean, it's complicated with them because, I mean, if they do came up together, it's like, look at Amazon, right? Like, when they divorced, got. Basically, he was the richest man in America until his divorce, because half of that went to her. So if he gave that to her, I think it's more up to Cody. What does he want, you know, and how they meet in the middle of what they both want.
- [62:09]
A
Also, what the circumstance of divorce is. They said it was, like, mutual, but it's like, did one cheat? Did one just abandon the other one did? Like, there is probably, like, circumstantial. Cause if it ends bad, you probably want the money because. Right. Who. Someone said that Someone's like, it's not about who you're marrying, it's who you're divorcing or something like that. So it's like, yeah, everyone starts off great, obviously, but a divorce could end messy if someone cheats, if someone does this, whatever. And then like, well, if you. I'm getting everything. I know my parents had such a crazy, messy battle. I still hear about it to this day. When it comes to money, it was so messy. So. But yeah, it becomes ruthless. Once someone. My dad, like, sold a company, which my mom was, like, starting. It was like, this whole thing, and it's like, damn. It gets. It gets messy. Which I think is why Dave Portnoy says he's never divorced his first wife. I think they are still married, because it's like. But I think she has, like, access to his money if she wants or something like that. I don't know. It. It is. It is messy. But a spouse, too, has to give up a lot of things to support that career. Although she's always working. I don't know. It's a tough one.
- [63:03]
C
Kids, the main thing. She's young, and she has a big future ahead of her. So even if he gets whatever he gets, she's gonna be fine. She's gonna. Because she's gonna grow double what she has now. She's gonna be.
- [63:16]
A
I agree. Totally agree, 100%. But also, too. I think she started her company when they were married. So it's like if you start a company while you're married. I know we know all this, like, the logistics of it all. Like, if you start company while married, they're entitled to have. Also, it's different. California is like a very. Like, everyone gets half. Maybe Boston's different. I don't know how it is, but I think she sells the dog. She showed.
- [63:35]
B
Yeah. People were speculating that Cody took the dogs, and that's kind of how it all.
- [63:39]
A
That's right. She's like, he can take my money, but he can't take my dogs.
- [63:43]
B
Yeah.
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A
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- [66:10]
B
Yeah, and as for my understanding, too, like, a trial would only happen if there's, like, an asset that's being, like, disputed. Because, like, usually they wouldn't have to go to trial.
- [66:19]
A
But she said they were going to trial, right?
- [66:21]
B
Exactly. Yeah. So that's why people are like, oh, he must be wanting something, because if. If that wasn't the case, if they just, like, had an agreement, like, they wouldn't have to go all the way to a trial, so.
- [66:31]
A
And they bought that house together. Well, at least they bought as a married couple.
- [66:35]
C
Yeah, but the thing is that she has to enlist every possible thing in possession for the divorce. So even if she's looking at those halls, you know, even, let's say. Let's say even, like, if a makeup company gave her stock, you know, if they got anything she has anywhere has to be now listed, and then they have to go through it and make a decision about how they're splitting things or not. And, I mean, I'm surprised that you haven't just reached an agreement on their own outside of court.
- [67:08]
A
Yeah, especially, like, this kind of situation. It's like, oh, you just don't want to, like, drag it on more. Especially when you go, who was it? Someone's like. I think it was like Taylor Swift was talking about. I saw it on Twitter. I don't know. It could be totally fake about her, like, doing a prenup right now to protect, like, $200 billion or something. I'm like, at that point, like, I love marriage, but I feel like I just. Is it even worth it? Because it's like, just in case. It's like, just in case. Like, wouldn't you rather just have it be separate? Like, I feel like in that case, like, don't get married. If I was worth, like, $200 billion, great. I mean, child's customer, it's probably fine. But if you're going through all that work, I would think just don't.
- [67:39]
C
Even if you don't, I don't think having 200 billion or 100 billion makes any difference to one's life. You won't even.
- [67:45]
A
Why are they doing all the paperwork then?
- [67:47]
C
Because that's what people do. But all I'm saying is, like, it's not like that. Like, the love, the person you're gonna spend every day with is bigger than the 2 billion that's in the bank. If it's 2 or 100. Like, being alone. It's not.
- [68:01]
A
We could be together and not be married.
- [68:03]
C
That doesn't matter. The law, like, especially here In California, after 10 years, everything is common property. Like, it doesn't matter.
- [68:09]
A
10 years.
- [68:10]
C
And if.
- [68:10]
A
And they could only last six years,
- [68:12]
C
I would assume that they'll have kids. I would assume that they'll have.
- [68:15]
A
That's a big assumption. None of that can happen. I guess what I'm saying is, like, I think if you just have, like, so much money, maybe, specifically, maybe not Travis and Taylor, because they just have so much money. Maybe, like, I guess Michaela didn't have money either. I guess you just don't know.
- [68:26]
C
I mean, she'll be rich. I mean, I don't know what it is. After seeing Travis in the basketball game, I would be cautious. But aside of that.
- [68:34]
A
What basketball game? He plays football. Do you know what he's talking about?
- [68:39]
C
He did, always.
- [68:41]
A
What happened?
- [68:45]
C
Is it not in your Hot Topic?
- [68:47]
B
No, I actually forgot about that. They went to a basketball game, and he was kind of being, like, what? He, like, pretended to fall asleep or something. He was.
- [68:54]
C
He was being a clown the whole game.
- [68:57]
A
Like a cute clown or like a
- [68:58]
B
clown, kind of annoying clown?
- [68:59]
C
Oh, yeah. Like a frat boy clown.
- [69:02]
B
Yeah.
- [69:02]
A
What was he doing, though?
- [69:03]
C
Like, the camera went on him. He just stood up and chugged the beer and he was. The whole thing. He was just, like, being a clown. And, I mean, it's cute. I mean, she's. She's that too, right? She's a bit of a.
- [69:15]
A
Oscar's, like, no, she can.
- [69:17]
B
Yeah, she could, like, put On. She'll dance. When the. When she's in an award show and that camera's on her, you know, she'll get on her feet and she'll dance.
- [69:22]
A
Do you think she liked it? Maybe she was, like, laughing.
- [69:24]
B
I think she likes everything that man does. I'm not gonna lie.
- [69:26]
A
It's very Selena Bunny.
- [69:27]
B
Yeah. I think nothing really gives her the ick when it comes to him.
- [69:30]
A
Okay, that doesn't sound bad if you just stop and start showing a beard. Like, Okay.
- [69:34]
B
I think from the outside perspective, like, people are like, he listen like, a little too much. And I think if it was a woman, forget about it. They would. If that was Meghan Trainer doing that, please. They would literally take her out back and just assassinate her. They really would.
- [69:48]
C
They will add her middle name. Hate.
- [69:51]
A
Poor manager. I saw TikTok of someone being like, you guys, I think Meghan Trainor gets it. I think she gets it.
- [69:55]
C
I think we can stop now.
- [69:57]
A
I think we can just. We can stop. She gets it. Like, just stop. Because people are just. Damn.
- [70:01]
B
I know.
- [70:02]
A
Really?
- [70:03]
B
I'm on Meghan Trainer talk for some reason. And, like, there was a fan who was, like, earnestly going to get her new album, like, at Target. Target. The day came out, and I was like. I was pretty seated for it because I wanted to understand, like, a Megatron. I think that's what.
- [70:16]
A
Oh, I love the name.
- [70:17]
B
I think that's a stand.
- [70:18]
A
I like that.
- [70:19]
B
So I was like, what is a day in the life of a Megatron? You know? So I was, like, pretty seated for it. And then she couldn't find it at Target, like, in the front of the display. And all the comments were like, girl, check the clearance section. I'm like, damn. Like, let the girl.
- [70:31]
C
Like, even Target is hating on her.
- [70:34]
A
Oh, my God. Anyways, I don't have an opinion either way, but if Charlie Puth is getting love from Mikayla and Aguero, Meghan Trainor deserves some respect, too. I don't know. She needs a mega fan out there to be a Michaela. Be like, I love Meghan Trainor.
- [70:50]
B
Chris Olson. She got him.
- [70:54]
A
I love Chris Olsen. No, I love it. I know he gets a lot of hate. Joy. I feel bad. Let me not give any more hate. But I was like, right, right. Collectively, people really loved it. And then all of a sudden, they all hated that.
- [71:05]
B
The whole.
- [71:06]
A
They said they were cousins or something. I don't know what it was. I don't know what they said.
- [71:09]
B
Oh, I haven't.
- [71:09]
A
Or just best friends since high School or.
- [71:11]
B
Oh, is that their lore?
- [71:12]
A
Something they, like, made it up and then she was, like, paying him to be her friend or something.
- [71:18]
B
I don't know.
- [71:18]
A
It came out anyways. No. Hate to Christmas. I know we were going through a lot, my friend. What were we talking about? Oh, Michaela. I'm seated for every Michaela TikTok there is. I love her girlfriend. Come on. Don't worry. I will not ask about Cody. Maybe privately, maybe on camera. What's the tea? And I. I will never share it, I promise. But I do want to know. Just. I just, you know, her being, her essence. Because she. Because you know what, too? I saw someone do. Like, it was showing the clip of her at the Charlie Puth concert, and so, like, wow, look at all those filters. And everyone's like, she kind of looks the same. Like, people are being a little crazy. She lost a bunch of weight. She does look good. Like, I don't know why. People are like, she needs all the filters. I'm like, like, the Entertainment Tonight did it early with those lights. With the non lighting, I should say, but that's it. But me too. Look at any one of my interviews when you're, like, this close to the camera and it's all dark and you're not in the thing, like, people are on me. She looks good. I feel like she looks good. She has the confidence. I don't know about those get ready, moody divorce. But, hey, do what you do what you want to do. I love making content out of it, I guess. She's like, I just need to look good. I need to look like, damn. I'm like, I don't know if you want to look like that.
- [72:20]
B
I need to look like Kim Kardashian.
- [72:22]
A
Is that what she said?
- [72:22]
B
Yeah. Oh,
- [72:26]
A
yeah, right. All's fair. I know. She's like, should I wear, like, the black vest was like, this, like, with no shirt underneath or this, like, white was showing a little bit of tummy? I was like, oh, my God, I love this divorce court outfit. Kind of crazy, but yikes. Well, they seem happy with her new. Her new new old man, I suppose. You know, it's cute. She's. But she's giving him a makeover, too. She's styling him. She's like, oh, a guy's gonna let me give him a makeover?
- [72:53]
B
I'm like, go back to two months ago, you guys. I might be dating, but I'm just not gonna share my personal life again.
- [73:00]
A
Me as. Yeah, Always me.
- [73:03]
B
Change your mind? Sure.
- [73:04]
A
Me being like, I need A break. Never showing another person again. But I love people. It's very Selena Gomez, too. Very. Like, I'm taking a break, but coming back, like, normalize. Just saying. Yeah, just saying. That doesn't mean anything. I like it. I think she's. I still. I'm still a little bit of a fan. It is all silly, goofy. She's putting it all out there. So I'm like, I'm. I think she doesn't mind a little speculation, clearly, because I think if it was that serious, you know, it's probably that serious. But maybe to her, she's trying to make it campy. Camp.
- [73:36]
B
Yeah. My other favorite TikTok drama that I'm, like, really obsessed with, even though I really don't go here. It's like the blush, the Patrick tall blush drama.
- [73:46]
A
I was gonna bring it up today. The.
- [73:48]
B
I kind of thought you were giving
- [73:49]
A
that the transitional blush. Transitional Blood was inspired by. Painted by Esther. We did. Because my makeup arts look okay. Maybe. Well, that's a different makeup story than Ari. I have Ronnie today. But, you know, makeup artists in LA in general are not fans of packaging. Now the influencers of LA are fans of Patrick Todd. My theory is they're getting that PR because it's expensive. Patrick Ta. It seems like the influencers really like to rally behind Patrick. I don't know. Patrick tall, but every glam person. Not every glam person. Let me not be that way. A lot of the glam people I know don't have great things to say that he's not so nice as what I've heard and always been a little bit of a schemer. Word on the street from just random people I know is that, like, back in the day, he would. I guess this is not, like, too. I don't know, maybe it's ethically wrong. You guys can tell me. I don't know. But people did not like him back in the day because he would allegedly DM people's clients and say that he would do them for free, and that's how you would get them. I don't know. I suppose that's how you do business. I guess. I guess if someone were to DM me back in the day and be like, I'll do you for free, I guess I'd be like, yeah, okay. So I guess that's how he got started. So a lot of makeup artists may look at him a little side eye and be like, that's a little shady,
- [75:00]
B
but a little ruthless.
- [75:01]
A
Yeah. So there's in general not a great buzz about Him. But I did get into this one because I was like, the blush is beautiful. First of all, I did know Painted by Esther. I knew her from. So Sierra interviewed me at the Euphoria. Yes. I don't think it aired it ever air.
- [75:19]
B
I don't know. I don't. I didn't see it.
- [75:21]
A
Moses got some BTs and me remember when I was about to go in and she was there and she had, she was just like beautiful. Yeah, she was like looking gorgeous. Like, oh, can I get on Summer House? Like all this stuff like that. She was. And she was like so stunning in person. And I remember like following her on Instagram and I remember like seeing Painted by Esther did that look on her. And I was like, oh my God, like so beautiful. Obviously then I saw that she did like Alandria and all these people. So I was like, oh. Like I. I had known about her. I didn't know this was like a technique. This what's called, what's called blush transition Blush is the thing I didn't know that was like what she made popular. And then when the Patrick Ta stuff comes out, I saw everyone reviewing it. Manny Mua reviewed it. Who else? I saw so many people talk about it. Mendoza Daos. Yes. Everybody was reviewing it and I was like, oh, it's really pretty. Like, I didn't know. I didn't know, Like, I guess I didn't know it was like a thing. And then I started seeing the drama and I was just kind of like, oh, okay. Cuz I guess like a big thing in the beauty world is giving credit to people who like popularized a trend or something like that. And I think even painted by Esther gives. She credits Kevin Aucoin to being the like first person to like coin the term, to coin the technique in like the 80s. So Kevin Aquan is like way back in the day. So I think that's like the whole thing is you like give credit to people who popularized it. And then I saw. So I didn't know. I just thought it was like cute. But then I thought I've been hearing about Patrick Ta not just for my makeup artist, but then other people online who's like, Patrick Tawsman always kind of shady, allegedly didn't pay some creators and stuff like that. And so I was kind of like, so I've always just heard these rumblings. But I was like. Then I was watching a TikTok where someone was comparing like the packaging. Did you see that one?
- [76:57]
B
No.
- [76:57]
A
It was like his packaging to. I believe it's Juvia's place. Yes. Yes. And how. Like, yes. How similar the packaging was. And then they showed it painted by. Painted by Esther, showing the technique, like doing a tutorial. And she had said something like, oh, I'm gonna put it on the back of my palm. Did you see that one? And then he was like, oh, I'm gonna put the back of my palm. And most people would say, like, the back of my hand. And she even said, like, oh, that's like, something I want to say is back of my hand. But they use the exact same verbiage. And then allegedly, according to painted by Esther, she was like, somebody who worked for Patrick. Ta was trying to get a lesson with her and just wanted to, like, film her doing makeup. And that's not. Like, this does feel a little like the verbiage. All of that. It does feel a little questionable.
- [77:39]
B
Yeah.
- [77:39]
A
And then I do believe. I feel like we're in court. I do believe Pactor Top probably knows that painted by Esther was the one who popularized this again after Kevin Aquan decade later, because he put another video out and in the caption, mention paintedbyesther and said like, yes. I realize that painted by Esther made this popular, but I also was doing this blush technique.
- [78:02]
B
Yes.
- [78:03]
A
Did I get it right?
- [78:04]
B
Yeah.
- [78:04]
A
I'm locked in on this.
- [78:05]
B
I know. I love it. Yes.
- [78:07]
A
Well. Cause I was like, I wanna get all this right, because I think the beauty community is boring, but when there's drama, they do drama. I feel like I'm watching a soap opera. I'm trying to get all the players, and then you start singing. People. I'm so, so far removed from. I'm far, so far removed. I think, like, kudos.
- [78:27]
B
Also.
- [78:27]
A
Also kudos to the beauty community. I love makeup. I love my glam artist. I think it's artistry. I think it's beautiful. All the influencers were making money with all their palettes. Beautiful. Love it for you. But being so far removed, you do start noticing things. Right? You're like. Because people will be like. You can tell they still want to be on Patrick Todd's good side, but
- [78:43]
B
also they don't want to get the lashings.
- [78:45]
A
Yes. Clock it from their audience. Because even Manny Mua was, like, totally not, like, shot up. Manny, we know we're no beef anymore. Okay? No beef. I don't know if we. We had beef. The Joey Graceffa iPad party was our beef.
- [78:56]
B
I think he was just in solidarity with Laura Lee.
- [78:58]
A
Oh, right. Oh, girl. Love you too. I don't. Did she. Did she Chime in on Packed or
- [79:02]
B
Todd or viewed it and gave it mix. Like, not a glowing review, but yeah.
- [79:07]
A
Okay. So I love the honesty. And then. And then Manny was toeing that line. He was very much like, oh, if he did take it, that was bad. But like, he's also known for blush. And then you start seeing. You're kind of like, I feel like these influencers, they kind of want to stand Patrick TA's good side PR list, period. And so it is kind of interesting to see the people and then the people standing out for Painted by Aster, which again, I like, had known her too for a while, and I was like, this is also a really. She's not like, I get it. It's not Patrick Ta where she has like all that behind her, but she is pretty prominent.
- [79:36]
B
Yeah, she's like a very popular artist. I mean, she really took off with. She's been around for a while, but with Alandria, I think a lot of her looks went viral. I also didn't know anything about this. I've noticed obviously, like, that blush trend, like, it's on a lot of dark skinned girls, obviously. But even like Azar Larson, her makeup artist is very similar. It's like different shades, like a gradient of blush that goes all the way up into like the basically your eyes and it looks really sickening. I'm like, that looks great once I actually knew what it was. But yeah, Patrick Tall released like his new transitional blush line. And it's like a blush duo and also like a liquid blush. And I think the problem too is that, like, when he in the video is promoting it, he's like, this is a technique I created. He also trademarked this technique.
- [80:23]
A
Wow, that's a whole other layer then.
- [80:25]
B
Like, what do you mean?
- [80:26]
A
Okay, fine. Brothers with react. What do you mean you're trademarking this? Oh, I didn't know that. Well, what the. Patrick, like, okay, I can't be on your side on this one.
- [80:35]
B
He made all the marketing videos. He kept saying, like, this is a technique that I created.
- [80:39]
A
No, no.
- [80:41]
B
And it's like, very specific. Like, obviously this technique's been around for a while, but Painted by Esther's, like, popularized it. She also finessed it where, like, the tools that she uses are very specific that, like, people wouldn't normally use to blend. Like, she uses a powder puff to blend this, like, cream concealer into, like, the blush. So it's all very specific.
- [80:58]
A
That was so technical the way you explained.
- [81:00]
B
Oh, it's really stunning.
- [81:02]
A
The cream and the puff and the buff.
- [81:04]
B
She just has such a meticulous and specific way. And she also, because I that this is a big argument against her. People. Like, you know, this has been around since, you know, the 1800s. There's been like, a lot of in Asian culture people have been doing it. But I think that's the technique and also the timeliness. Like, she popularized it. Every time Alandria steps out, that girl's making headlines, you know, so she is kind of the blueprint for, like, 2025, 2026. And yeah, I think the problem he's running into is that, like, he keeps saying, I created it. I created it. But then people have found screenshots of him and in last year saying that he's inspired by Painted by Esther. And someone even commented, she's like, oh, I thought you wouldn't use powder after you've already used. Or I thought you wouldn't use liquid after you use powder.
- [81:47]
A
Yeah.
- [81:47]
B
And he replied, I'm trying the Painted by Esther technique today and, like, add her.
- [81:52]
A
Oh, so he knows.
- [81:53]
B
Has acknowledged her before, but then released his new product that's also priced like crazy. I think it's like $48 for, like, a. A set of, like, a duo set of Blush and.
- [82:03]
A
But you have to buy the liquid one separate.
- [82:05]
B
Yeah, it's, like, really expensive, too. So.
- [82:08]
A
So there's like, so many layers.
- [82:10]
B
So he's like, gave her credit before and. Yeah. But now he's saying, like, I created I. And then now he's walking back a little bit and also saying, yeah, like, obviously she's the queen of Blush, whatever. But I've been doing this for a long time, too. But Gaga, he's acknowledged that he's changed
- [82:25]
A
his technique after Painted by Esther.
- [82:29]
B
That's kind of the tea. No, I know.
- [82:32]
A
No, no, no.
- [82:33]
B
I know the girls. They'll find your receipts, baby. They will go through your comment section. They will go through every single TikTok until they can clock you.
- [82:42]
A
Case close. Patrick Todd. Guilty. Because, like, what do you mean? Oh, my gosh. And then to walk it back and then acknowledge. So, yeah, no, for sure. Shady to also trademark it. Shady to say you created. It's shady. It's like, one thing to, like, capitalize on a moment. Whatever. I guess he. He has the money, so, okay, he can do it. But it's just like to say, then I created and then trademark it so she can't use it for future. Like, if someone were to come to her, like, for Lander's, like, I want to do this with you. Esther. And then she can't do it because it's trademarked. Is actually very and very, like, also not yours. Crazy. I'm glad the Internet's on him because I was like, oh, God, okay, I gotta feel badly. I don't want people, like, attacking anybody. And Metro has a little bit of a hat train. Like, he has a. Has. He's had haters for a while. So I was like, oh, it kind of sucks. But then I'm like, no, that sucks. Like that it is giving fine bros being like, we're suing anyone who uses the word react. Like, you're so insane. What do you mean? And also, you didn't create this and he acknowledged it. That's crazy.
- [83:38]
B
Yeah, so, like, the gaslighting too. Like, there's receipts of him, like, giving her credit and, you know, giving her flowers last year, but then now when it's time to like, make his own coin off of this technique. And also the argument, too, is like. Like, that he's been developing this, like, since like 2024, which could very well be true. Like, I don't. Transitional blush itself isn't a new revolutionary thing forever, but I think when he's doing his, like, videos and in the packaging, too, of the Transitional blush gives you, like, step by step directions. So, like, yeah, maybe he was making this product for a couple years, but the. The step by step, the instructions, the way that he's applying it is very much influenced by painting. Bastard. Like, you can just can't ignore that because he acknowledged it himself.
- [84:23]
A
So.
- [84:24]
B
Yeah. And also the whole, like, for anyone who doesn't, she's like a black. A black female makeup artist too. So that adds a whole other layer of, like, black artists always getting screwed over, you know, so.
- [84:35]
A
Yeah. Yeah. Damn.
- [84:38]
B
There's so many layers. I was like, I know involvement whatsoever. Like, you know, I'll wear whatever I have in my little bag when it comes to makeup, like, I. I de gaff.
- [84:47]
A
What's your transitional blush today?
- [84:48]
B
I did.
- [84:49]
A
I like it. I do like it. That was different. You walked in and I was like, wait, you're skin? And I. I don't know if I said skin at the beginning, but I'm like, your skin does look different. What did you put on? What is it today?
- [84:59]
B
It wasn't the real deal because, like, with transitional blush, you got to have like, one, like, really lighter shade and one complimentary darker, like, more opaque shade. But they do use, like, a liquid blush and a powder. So I use my rare beauty with it's expired minus in 2020. Like, I got it when it came out, like, I went to Sephora just to support Selena Marie, who pre billionaire status. I was like, she needs my dollars. So I would blush. But Gaga. I've had it since 2020. And so it's been six years. And it's.
- [85:27]
A
It looks good.
- [85:27]
B
A lot of product.
- [85:28]
A
I was using my rare beauty today, too. And then what did you put for the benefits?
- [85:33]
B
I don't know. I have a palette of powders. It has a bronzer and two blushes and, like a highlighter, and I just went in there. The thing with whatever, I mean, I try to do a little Esther nachos where, like, I blended into the concealer. But I don't know how successful we
- [85:51]
A
were trying that too. I think we used maybe a one size because he's best friends with Patrick Star, and I think they were doing the one size. I couldn't. I couldn't really look. I was like, just, no, Patrick. He's like, don't worry, girl. I don't have any Patrick on my kid. I was like, love.
- [86:04]
B
And that's the funny thing to everyone who, like, doesn't go here and like, the, you know, the beauty industry and stuff, they're like, oh, I thought you were talking about Patrick Star. Like, that's what everything I see on Tick Tock. Like, wait, I thought we talked about Patrick Star. Who's Patrick Ta. It's a whole debacle.
- [86:18]
A
Oh, two different sounds. They sound very similar. Well, people thought Patrick Starr was the spongebob. There's a character in spongebob. Did you know that?
- [86:26]
B
Yes.
- [86:27]
A
Wait, but that's such a crazy name to choose.
- [86:29]
B
Yeah, he chose it before. No, the cartoon was before Patrick Starr.
- [86:33]
A
So he's like, I want to be. But then it's also. Are you related to Jeffree Star? Because you're all.
- [86:37]
B
Both of them.
- [86:37]
A
Like, it's a very. Like, why did we pick these names? And they Both had double Rs or triple R?
- [86:44]
B
Maybe Patrick Star, the beauty guru has more like triple stars. I think ours. Yes.
- [86:50]
A
And Jeffree Star has two ours.
- [86:54]
B
How many R's does he have? Yes. So Patrick Star, triple R's. Jeffree Star. I think you're right. Double. No, double E's. One double E's and Jeffrey one.
- [87:05]
A
Oh, he's just a Jeffree Star. And then it's like, well, are you guys related? You know, it's like drag families. Yeah. It's like, who's the. Oh, my gosh. I don't know how they pick these Makeup names, but they are confusing. They do sound.
- [87:18]
C
If I was famous for blending, I would name myself spongebob.
- [87:22]
A
Ooh, that's pretty good. That's a good one. Sponge Star. That's a good one. Sponge is a good one for sure. What's your takeaway on all this?
- [87:33]
C
When he said there was a TikTok that he was Hot Topic, I thought you're going to talk about the bricks and Minifigurine, the Lego drama that's going on on TikTok.
- [87:43]
B
I haven't been.
- [87:44]
C
I was tired. You can talk about that.
- [87:45]
A
Well, I need to know.
- [87:45]
C
I thought you talk about Legos, not
- [87:47]
A
why do you hear your take on the Blush drama?
- [87:50]
C
To me it just sounds like there's people that they kind of lie to them. Like over time they just adopt something and start believing it. And he just at some point starts believing that this is his.
- [88:02]
A
Oh, you think he really does believe it's his at some.
- [88:05]
C
I mean, I think you have to be full on delusional, claim it, believe that it's his. Knowing that there'll be backlash, but you'll be like, well, but I used. I changed one little thing and that makes it mine.
- [88:17]
A
You know what? I just feel like he's sneaky Snake from what I hear. I feel like it's like just a little sneaky because everyone who's like again from the outside. I also don't know Package hall at all. Like influencers saying like they didn't get paid. There was one influencer, I think she was. She was a black influencer that didn't get paid. I think Jewel Jules lebron said she didn't get paid by him.
- [88:41]
C
I've seen somebody that believes his own lies. So I think in every case like that you'll ask him. He probably has is a story where,
- [88:50]
B
yeah, he justifies himself and he is famous for Blush. Like he's. I think that was his first product and his wow was like a blush. But the technique is like what can be argued as like Esther's.
- [89:03]
A
What was he. What blush was he famous for?
- [89:06]
B
I forget. It was like a. A cream, I think. I think it was like a cream to powder blush. And that was like his first name was very glowy. Maybe like 20 I was when I was doing Beautycon. So it must have been like 2019, 2018.
- [89:20]
A
2019.
- [89:22]
B
Yeah. He was kind of known for like the glowy.
- [89:25]
A
He does have a good glow body oil that I always see people on Tick Tock talking about. It's like, it's like almost like this, like, shimmer glow for your skin. I think I own it. I think it is good. I think that one is good too. When I think of blush, though, I do think of, like, I think of the one size blush because everyone talks about that. I think of Nars orgasm because everyone used to talk about that. I think about the benefit ones, like the dandelion. There's so many other ones, I can't think, but I see them all, like, in those boxes in Sephora. I think of rare beauty. I don't. I really didn't think of Petrochon. I'm not even, like, shading that because I do know he has a good body glow. But I don't think of him. I really just think of him as. People just tell me he always steals clients when. When he started out. That's all I know. He's cute. He is a handsome man. Maybe that's why. Maybe people don't like him because he's maybe a little too handsome. But I think also didn't seem to trademarking and stealing people's ideas, which he clearly knows or maybe doesn't. Maybe Moses's benefit of the doubt is he.
- [90:15]
C
No, there's no benefit of that. I'm just saying I think he's a delusional person that uses his delusion to support his bad acting.
- [90:23]
A
I see Delusional narcissism. I hate you, not you. Is that what you're saying?
- [90:29]
C
As I'm saying, I agree with you that he's tricky and shady.
- [90:33]
A
Oh, got it, got it, got it. It.
- [90:35]
C
But I think he's met. That's his mechanism.
- [90:37]
A
Okay. I hope you're okay. Don't sue me. I honestly just, you know what, Take the trademark off and that's it. Just say, like, yeah, I was inspired by painted by Esther. And, you know, let's work together. You know, he needs to. He needs to pull to James Charles. He needs to put $250,000 towards a campaign with Esther. Like, they should do a collab like Champagne Pop with Becca Cosmetics.
- [90:53]
B
But that's why, like, the. That's what the gag is. Like, he could have just folded Painted by Usher into it. Like, imagine if it was like a collab with her and then. Because Painted by Esther doesn't have, like, her own line right now. Yeah, but if he folded her into the creative and then brought in Alandra for the campaign, like, whoa, that would have been.
- [91:13]
A
That would have been insane.
- [91:14]
C
Yeah, but people are greedy and there's a lot of money involved. And once you start sharing, like, That's, I think, making a lot of assumptions, but it sounds very greedy. The person that steals idea, not paying people steal customers.
- [91:27]
A
I think in 2026, you have to know that someone's gonna find something. Like, if you were inspired by. Especially if he's out there talking publicly about it, being like, I, you know, I love this. And then all of a sudden you're doing it. Like, I like, you have to know in 2026, people are gonna clock it. People are not gonna, like, let you slide with it. So I think even if you're a person, you still gotta be like, let's collab. Because people are gonna know. And that's fine. If you see like a little town, a little thing taking off, be like, okay, we can make money together. And guess what? That's also just good karmatically for the universe. Like, if you're just helping put money in people's pockets, especially if they deserve it, it's also just good choreographically. And people are like, oh, I love this club. They love Patrick Ta. They love Esther. It would have been a good collab. I think you missed the mark on this one, which is sad. The stuff is too expensive, though. I'm not gonna lie. Like, anytime I would try to buy, like, even the body oil, it is too expensive. It's like people are canceling tours because of the tickets. It's like, we need to cancel some of these. Too many makeup brands overpriced. You know what I mean? And I think Patrick House might be the start of it. Especially as it does look so close. Close I get. Not all packaging can look different. I will say that about Jeffree Star is like, his cosmetic packaging was very unique. Like those little, like, shapes he would come up with.
- [92:28]
B
It's very, like, gaudy.
- [92:30]
A
Yeah, I guess. I like.
- [92:31]
B
And now we're kind of like in minimal packaging era.
- [92:34]
A
Even Kevon D used have really gaudy packaging. And hers, she even. I don't think she has a makeup line anymore.
- [92:39]
B
Yeah, I don't think so. It's very like gothic body.
- [92:41]
A
Yeah, I liked those. I know, I loved. There's one called like Flower. Remember that one that used to send me stuff. Moses, that flower one. What was that one called? Do you remember? It's like start. I think it's like, it might have been a Korean makeup company.
- [92:54]
C
I always thought it was not in English.
- [92:55]
A
Yeah, yeah. I think it was a international one. And it was so beautiful. I think it was called, like flower. Oh, my gosh.
- [93:02]
C
They are so pretty.
- [93:03]
A
Like, gorgeous. The way it would come is like just these, like flower compacts and just beautiful. Yeah, I don't like this whole minimal thing anymore. I like it, but I also think they need some maximalist out there.
- [93:14]
B
Yeah. I feel like it'll swing back again because everything has been like Clean Girl or like some skin care makeup, like Olivia Jade's makeup beauty line or whatever is like skin care makeup, like very light coverage, but skincare built in. Terrible name. I'm sorry, what is it? Piccolo.
- [93:33]
A
What does that mean? Piccolo. I hate the name Pickle in any cosmetic thing. Piccolo. I don't like it either.
- [93:40]
B
I don't like.
- [93:41]
A
I like her, but I don't like that.
- [93:42]
B
Piccolo. I don't want to hear Piccolo. I don't hear. I don't. I don't feel like Beauty, you know, like a beauty product. I think like something more food related.
- [93:50]
A
Oh. I think like Music Man. Like, pick a little, talk a little. Do you know that song? Talk a Lot. Pick a little more. Pick a little taco. Pick a little taco. It was. It was good. I was like, good night, ladies. It's giving like that. It's giving. 1940s musical. Yeah. That's awful. Especially here. Olivia Jade. Just call it Olivia Jade or something or Jade Beauty or I don't know, something like. Something prettier than that. That's our. Yeah, I don't know. I like again, minimal sometimes, but I think we need to bring back some excitement. She broke up with Jake Valordi or what?
- [94:19]
B
Oh, Piccolo means little in Italian. I just. Okay.
- [94:23]
A
Oh, she's just like, I'm so tiny. Let me call it. Let me call it Piccolo. I'm so small. I mean, it's pretty, but not for. Not for a beauty.
- [94:32]
B
Yeah, I just don't. I don't get beauty from it. Oh, oh, Piccolo. Actually, my period. Piccolo is the full name.
- [94:41]
A
Nope. I don't like it.
- [94:42]
B
I don't like it.
- [94:43]
A
We need to rebrand some of these people.
- [94:45]
B
Road. That's when, like, it makes sense, you know, like beauty. That's just like her name. Haley Road Bieber. Like middle name.
- [94:51]
A
Her name's Road Haley.
- [94:52]
B
Road Bieber? Yeah.
- [94:53]
A
I thought it was Baldwin.
- [94:55]
B
Haley Road Baldwin. Previously.
- [94:57]
A
What's wrong? So what's middle name? Oh, oh, okay, okay. So that makes sense.
- [95:01]
B
Yeah, like Road Beauty and like kind
- [95:03]
A
of rare Beauty Off.
- [95:04]
B
Yeah.
- [95:04]
A
Rare disease.
- [95:06]
B
Exactly.
- [95:07]
A
We get the meanings behind that. Fenty, obviously. RH's name. Beauty. Yeah. But, oh, Piccolo could have been, I think, Jade Beauty. It would have been Jade Beauty. That would have been Gaggy Aunt Becky. We're going with past names. You know what I mean?
- [95:24]
B
Scandal rowing.
- [95:26]
A
Yeah.
- [95:27]
B
Row. Row. Beauty.
- [95:29]
C
Okay.
- [95:29]
B
Work
- [95:32]
A
R O W. That would have been great. There's. There's so many missed ones.
- [95:36]
B
Honestly, we might have to rebrand soon.
- [95:39]
A
Yeah.
- [95:40]
B
I don't know.
- [95:41]
A
Jake Lord is handsome, huh? He's pretty good looking. You don't. You can't deny that.
- [95:47]
B
Most to most.
- [95:48]
A
You don't think Jake Valerie is cute.
- [95:50]
B
I think he's tall. I think he's large.
- [95:52]
A
I do not believe you. At first I didn't get it because I never watched him anything, but it's like, no, when you look at him, he's like, oh, he is a very beautiful person.
- [96:00]
B
He's a big boy.
- [96:03]
A
This is crazy that you think Hasan is hot and not Jacob Lord Jacob already has a chiseled face, like a perfect nose. He has the right size muscles. He's so like. That's so insane.
- [96:10]
B
He's really skinny. No, no, no shade. No body shaming tea. But he's not. He's got muscles, but he's like really lean, muscular. Like, I mean, it wouldn't take much for him to like, you know. I like him a little bit thicker.
- [96:22]
A
Okay.
- [96:23]
B
Yeah.
- [96:23]
A
Just needs to gain a little weight then.
- [96:25]
B
Even then, I don't know, I just don't really see it for him. I see it for other people. I don't see it for me, if that makes sense.
- [96:31]
A
I do think he's very good looking. I know when I saw him in his Elvis, I was like, this is not my Elvis. I do not like this Elvis. But, but, but watching Euphoria. Did you watch this last, last episode?
- [96:40]
B
I didn't watch the episode, but I saw clip. Spoiler alert.
- [96:44]
A
Spoilers are coming. Ooh, spoilers are coming. Spoiler. Get out now. Spoiler alert. Three, two, one. Spoiler warning.
- [96:54]
B
I did see the death scene. Yep.
- [96:58]
A
That was. This show's like, what is happening? Like, what is like all of it. Like, what is happening? Like Moses hit a on the head, which I was kind of trying to figure out. Which, I mean, I should know this because I was like a massive Quentin fan back in the. But it does feel like a Quentin Tarantino movie sometimes. It just feels like so all over the place. The buried alive scene. You see Hillbilly Volume too?
- [97:16]
B
No.
- [97:17]
A
Well, she gets buried alive. Spoiler alert. Uma Thurman gets buried alive. And everyone. I saw a TikTok. It's so funny. Someone was under their bed and they're like, me knowing how I would survive if I was Nate Jacobs. Am I in the frame? It's like, you and Kill Bill. She'd go like this, and you just eventually get it out. But then I saw someone on TikTok say if you urinate, it softens the soil. Because he was in a wooden box. If you just urinate a lot, it will soften the soil beneath you. So then when you're doing this and it's punching through, all the dirt will keep going down and you can, like, get your way out. So he actually could have survived. Yeah. Watch Kill Bill if you want to get out of this. Because Nate Jacobs was a little. And couldn't.
- [97:53]
B
But he was missing some digits. Right.
- [97:56]
A
One you can still punch. Okay, well, the toe wasn't doing much anyways. It was right there. I. You know, I never saw season one, season two, but people had good analogies on, like, TikTok. They were doing a whole dissertation. They were like, Nate in season one was trying to, like, beat the out of it and was trying to kill everybody. Was, like, fighting everybody. They're like, why was he giving up so much in season three? Like, he just did not have any fight in him like that. The whole season. They were like, he was just being, like, a little everywhere. He was just, like, complaining and, like, running around. And I was like, oh, yeah, I guess. But then I guess people were, like, excited for his death because he was, like, this, like, homophobic, like, abusive, like, the whole time. So it's like, okay, kind of fitting, I suppose. But he was not trying to survive that box. It was insane. People were mad. I loved you when people were like, this whole season has been, like. Like, violent, misogynistic, like, all this stuff happening. But people are like, they put a boa instead of a rattlesnake in there. And people, because they put a boa constrictor with, like, a rattle on the end instead of, like, a rattlesnake.
- [98:46]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [98:47]
A
And I was like, well, what the hell? What do you mean? Wouldn't you rather have a real snake than, like, some CGI AI or something like that? Because they put a real snake in there with them, and everyone's like, the pattern's not the same. And everyone was, like, trying to, like, cancel euphoria because it was, like, the wrong snake. It was crazy, but I just thought he could have survived it, and it was just being crazy. I do love the girls. I do love euphoria. I think. Think unpopular opinion, maybe. I don't know. Everyone seems to hate it, but I'm kind of liking It.
- [99:09]
B
It's like a fun ride, I think,
- [99:11]
A
if you,
- [99:13]
B
like, care less. You know what I mean? Like, I think people are so invested and that I get, like, if you're really involved in the emotional arc of, like, especially that first season in season two, especially when it comes to Rue and her journey and, like, her struggle with, like, sobriety and drugs and everything, like, I understand how people can get really attached to watches, see themselves in the characters, and then it kind of gets, like, so derailed and it becomes like a camp extravaganza. So I miss the whole, like, attachment. So for me and probably you, it's, like, easier to be along for the ride and just, like, the chaos and campiness of it all. But, yeah, I feel like if you're probably invested from the beginning, you have a different relationship with the show.
- [99:51]
A
But Rue, I think, is getting a good arc, especially if you're on that thing. Because, like, I didn't know. I didn't know the background of it all, but this last episode was very Moses based. It was. Had like a Moses song at the end, and he was like, talking about Moses going to the promised land. And the promised land to her is like, was it Texas or Mexico in the beginning or something like that? And he's like, but Moses never makes it to the promised land. She's giving very Moses. Because then she finds, like, a spoiler alert. She finds all those cars with, like, the women being trafficked and stuff like that, and she wants to go, like, help them. Which is very Moses coded biblical Moses, not this Moses. But I did send it to Moses. And I was like, are you watching that? He's like, no, I didn't like what. I was like, no, you gotta watch it because it's. It's a biblical. Do you feel connected to him? No. Do you have any connection to biblical Moses? Do you ever feel like, oh, okay, so you would like this episode. That's why I sent you the clip of someone doing the whole. Anyways, it was very. She's very Moses coded. And I think she sees, like, a burning. I think she saw like a burning tree or something in this last episode. Or burning car or something. And that's also very much, you know, about Moses, the Bernie Bush. You know anything?
- [100:42]
B
I hate when my bush burns, I'll tell you that much.
- [100:47]
A
Well, it might mean you seeing God if your bush is burning. At least have a burning bush here for the longest time. Just, like, hanging out downstairs. Yeah. I was like, which way?
- [100:55]
C
In my office.
- [100:55]
A
Is it still there?
- [100:56]
C
Yeah.
- [100:57]
A
From the media where we do Patreon,
- [101:00]
C
where the printer is.
- [101:01]
B
Oh, an artist.
- [101:03]
A
Yeah.
- [101:03]
B
I thought you meant you had a bush that kept catching on fire.
- [101:07]
C
Moses just puts it, I think you will be.
- [101:09]
A
That means he's seeing God. Although Moses thinks even biblical Moses was a song, like some LSD or something like that. Because I said, do you think he really saw God? He's like, well, I don't know. He could have been just like tripping or something like that. But anyways, wait.
- [101:18]
C
They described it as a bush that was burning but wasn't consumed. It wasn't actually on fire, but it looked like
- [101:26]
A
on flames.
- [101:27]
C
Like the pattern. Right.
- [101:29]
A
Well, there was a lot of Moses references, this last one, including the final song. So I do feel my opinion. I haven't seen any spoilers. I do think Rue will make it out. I think she'll be promising. Because Moses didn't die. He was wandering that desert for 40 years after he saw that burning bush. So I think she's gonna make it out. I think that's the whole arc of it all.
- [101:50]
C
Well, if they did the same, she would be. The end of the show would be her standing at the border of Mexico but not showing her crossing. But
- [101:59]
A
then we don't know what happens Season four. I'm sure Zendaya will not be back for season four, in my opinion. She's like, I am done. People were saying about Nate Jacobs too. They're like, what's Jacob Elordi getting offset. There's all these memes of him just being like, woo, yeah, yeah.
- [102:12]
B
And the behind the scenes too. He was like. Like, that's a cool way to go. Like, he was pretty excited about. How about going?
- [102:19]
A
He's like, I'm out. Thank you for the paycheck. I'm done.
- [102:22]
B
Yeah. And Sam Levinson said that the reference to. For his death was from the movie the Candy Snatchers, where a girl gets buried alive with a pipe as an air hole. But one day he was driving into work into the Warner Brothers lot, and he had a vision of a snake. And he's like, oh, I gotta put a snake in there.
- [102:39]
C
There.
- [102:40]
A
Okay. It's also giving Kill Bill Volume 2, because the snake is the thing that takes out l Driver. What's her name? Daryl Hannah's eye. And it's a black mamba. So I feel like he might have just watched Kill Bill Volume 2. Yeah. It's like in his head, he's like, yeah, maybe a snake. Because that snake was everywhere too. It kind of came out of nowhere. And people suspect that It'll be in the finale somehow as well. Because it's in the poster. It's on the poster. So they think somehow it's. It'll tie in to. Which is also very symbolic. It's also very biblical. It's very biblical this time around too. There is snakes in the Bible, right? Adam and Eve. The snake. What the snake do? I forget what the snake do in Adam and Eve.
- [103:16]
C
He tempted Eve to eat the apple from the tree of knowledge that they were not supposed to.
- [103:21]
A
The snake did. How'd she hear the snake talk?
- [103:25]
C
Where was the devil in the.
- [103:27]
A
But you like snakes. Snakes are good luck. In Chinese zodiac, we love a snake.
- [103:30]
C
Yeah. It's not that that every snake is the devil. You just. At that moment the devil showed up.
- [103:36]
A
Kind of like the obsession. You see that movie?
- [103:38]
B
I love obsession.
- [103:39]
A
Did you see it? Yeah, I was gonna try and go yesterday cuz I haven't seen it. But I'm obsessed with all the clips that I'm seeing. Was it good?
- [103:46]
B
It's good.
- [103:47]
A
Is it like horror? Cuz I wanted to take Moses but like, is it like too horry?
- [103:50]
B
It is technically horror, but it's not like body horror. It's not like super grotesque. It's like it can get. Get gross a bit, but it's not, oh like overindulgent.
- [104:01]
A
It's a little demonic though. I want to see it so bad because at first I was like. I think, I think I first saw Tana talk about it where she's like, this is so me. And I was like, oh, what is this? Like whatever. And then she was. And then she like took him a code to see it. He's like, this is you. And so I was like, okay. It's like a cute thing about a girl being like obsessed or something. And then I saw that. I was like seeing it.
- [104:15]
B
I don't know if they're really understanding
- [104:17]
A
the concept like what I know, I think, I think after maybe it's different like from what I was seeing. I was like, oh, oh yeah. This like looks scary. Although I do love. I do love a whole Freaky Friday situation. Like Wish Upon a Star. Like I want this person to be obsessed with me. Love me more than anything. Is that Only Son?
- [104:32]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
The YouTuber who did it.
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B
Yes, he's a YouTuber. It was a very like low budget film and the. I'm gonna avoid spoilers because I feel like you really got to go into it. That's what. But the concept is like. Yeah, it's like a wish gonna Ride basically where he has a crush on a girl and just wishes for her to fall in love with him more than anyone else.
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A
And then things go well from what I've seen too. No spoiler is at the beginning is like she. They're like on a date. They kind of like each other, right?
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B
No, they're just a friend group.
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A
Makes more sense. Well, it seemed like they kind of had a little flirtation from the little scene I saw.
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B
Yeah, I mean they're just like good, like really good friends. Like they're friend group and they're like. Yeah, there's like, it's like a group of four and they work together and they just have a really like good dynamic as a foursome, you know, as friends.
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A
But yeah, I read all the spoilers, but I won't spoil it. It sounds horrific. It sounds crazy. That's why I want to see it.
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B
And it's correct. It is just like a very well done film. Very well acted for sure.
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A
Like I love seeing everyone's doing showing their self tapes now and everyone who auditioned for it. I was like, damn, that lady, the girl, the actress, what's her name?
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B
I think it's Indy. I want to say she was so good and like she's so pretty too. I was every time she was on. Yeah, Indy Navarette.
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A
She was so good. And I love seeing all the clips. And anyways, it made me think of it because you were saying the snake was not really the devil but possessed by it because. Okay. Yeah. So it's not really possession. You wouldn't say.
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B
I don't know. I guess that was my one like thought when I left is I wish there was like a little bit more lore.
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A
Like what happened.
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B
Yeah. As to like the rules and everything. Because it kind of reminded me a little bit of Weapons from last year where there was like some lore and some magic or whatever involved. But then we got this big like scene that explained the origins of Aunt Gladys that like show where the powers and everything came from. And I was like, okay, so I wish there was a little bit of a lore drop in there somewhere. But also like it was such a small, like low budget film so it kind of made sense that it ought to be like very contained and stuff.
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C
It also sounds like the storyline is not about what makes wishes come true. It's more about what you wish for or how a simple wish, something that's so romantic and simple, can turn into a complete disaster, a nightmare.
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A
Have you not seen any clips of it?
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C
No, but I understand the premise from what he said.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So crazy.
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B
Then it becomes an allegory for consent and everything as well. Which I think.
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A
Oh yeah, I did see all that.
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B
Yeah, yeah. So but it's very well acted and it's made like over a hundred times its budget.
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A
Crazy.
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B
It was so. It was such a small low budget movie and like it was only I think maybe like five different sets. Like it was like a restaurant, a bedroom, another room, a bar. Like it's very small, very contained but like it didn't feel low budget. Like I felt like you know.
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C
And did one person write and direct it or is it.
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B
Yeah, he's a huge. I forget his name.
- [107:40]
A
It's like Curry Baker. Baker Curry.
- [107:45]
C
That's amazing to do. Curry Barker.
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A
Curry Barker. It's giving. Do you remember Totally sketch. I know I always ask you about
- [107:53]
B
the this I don't remember them but I know they come up for you a lot.
- [107:56]
A
Yeah, Michael Gallagher. Cuz he did, he did Shane Dawson horror movie. Smiley. Do you remember Smiley?
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B
I do remember Smiley.
- [108:02]
A
It's giving. What they thought was going to be smiley was this. You know what I mean? But you know what you want to try? I'm all for it. Even if they flop. I like. Yeah, you should, you should definitely try.
- [108:10]
B
T And we are in the good news for you. We are in the age of YouTuber movies. Cuz Markiplier just had his horror movie not that long ago, like six months ago.
- [108:20]
C
And yeah, that was a big success.
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B
It was a big success.
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A
What was it called?
- [108:23]
B
God, I'm forgetting it. It's just coming, it's coming out on YouTube like this month and same thing.
- [108:28]
C
He didn't, he didn't do like it wasn't like a normal distribution or anything. It's really just fan supported.
- [108:36]
A
Yeah, this is the direction to go I think the horror route because he
- [108:39]
B
tried to get a markiplier try to get a distributor for his movie and no one would pick it up. So he just like did it himself. And like the fans were like no, you need to put this movie in theaters because we want to see it. And it ended up making it almost became number one. It like very close with like a big universal movie. Send help. But the fact that it was like neck and neck with a huge like movie like that was crazy.
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A
I have some ideas now. I think I need to go in the horror market. I have some ideas that I know a really good writer. Oh my gosh.
- [109:09]
C
What if you combine like K pop and Demons Hunters?
- [109:16]
A
Yeah, okay. I'll get all that to Netflix. But Alex is a good writer and director. I have the idea and story. Oh my God. I feel actually I could direct it. Honestly too. I could direct this. Okay. This might be the new route we're going. I really like this idea. Shane. Also take note you're a horror fan. Let's pause canceled and start a horror movie. Because he's really good at horror and I think this canceled is giving Y2K. I think we need to give some horror because that could be his direction. I'd be glad for him if he had a obsession hit on his hands. He has some twisted thoughts. I'm sure he could come out with a movie in a good way. In a good way. Do that instead. I think that's great. Put Ryl in it. Whoever you want in it. I think it could be a hit. That's my two cents for you, Shane. Or put yourself in it. You're a pretty good actor. Put yourself in it. I think that's the way to go. That's my. Yeah, I love it. I do love that it's giving like Paranormal Activity too. Where it's kind of like. That's my generation of it being like a low budget and then it becomes a hit. Baby reindeer. All right now Tavern Maid is becoming a horror movie. I think that's the way we're going. Cause it is this obsession one I wish I wrote. I do love it. I feel like. I do love the idea of that. Especially like reverse. I feel like I would be like the guy that wish, like somebody would like fall in love with me or something. I haven't seen the movies. I don't know the like entirety of it. Yeah, I think we've all wanted that at one point. Like someone to have. Did you ever. I don't say like put a spell on, but did you ever like wish really hard? Like I just. I wish this person would like me or no.
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B
In high school for sure.
- [110:39]
A
I think my whole life I was like, I wish this person would just love me.
- [110:43]
B
I think I. I'm sure as an adult at some point, cuz I would be very quick to like after one good conversation on one of the apps be like, this is it.
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A
Oh yeah, this is it.
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B
Yeah. I was send all my friends, look at my new man. My man, my man, my man.
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A
I did that too.
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B
So I'm sure I. At some point I did. I just remember vividly in high school, like wanting so bad for like shout out Dennis. I was like playing teardrops on my guitar thinking about him at night. Yeah.
- [111:13]
A
What was Dennis. Where was he at? Was he had a boyfriend? What's going on?
- [111:15]
B
He's straight.
- [111:17]
A
Oh, wow. Problem number one.
- [111:18]
B
I know, but when you're like, come when you're 16.
- [111:21]
A
Oh, I know. I was 28 with a gay boyfriend and I was like, please love me. Please like me. Everyone's like, he's gay. I was like, no, it's okay.
- [111:34]
B
It's funny. But I think he's an actor now. He was in Escape the Night as an actor. Oh, yeah.
- [111:40]
A
It doesn't get any bigger than that. Just kidding. Escape the Night is great. Honestly. Joey, maybe make Escape the Night into a horror movie. Like real horror. He was trying. He just made it a little too camping cute.
- [111:51]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you just went full on, you know, I need to get some funding.
- [111:55]
A
I just need a million dollars. How do I get that?
- [111:58]
B
Don't ask. James Charles. That's my favorite joke ever. I love.
- [112:04]
A
Oh, yeah. He came out with an apology, right?
- [112:06]
B
Yes, he sure did.
- [112:09]
A
Everyone's like, no, people don't accept it anymore. That's like your fourth one. You can't. We're done.
- [112:15]
B
You know what he did on YouTube, though? Like, he did the Tower Banks thing where he was poor for a day and he'd, like, got dressed up. He, like, did homeless makeup just recently. Yeah, like, in tandem with the apology video. He got, like, an unhoused makeup downtown LA to, like, understand what it was like.
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A
Stop it.
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C
Let me see.
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A
Oh, did he? Oh, my God. Honestly, I would like that a little better than what? He went out.
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B
I know she did.
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A
Then it's kind of camp and you're kind of like, all right, I wish
- [112:41]
B
he had the Tyra Banks. Like, I want to see what it's like. Because in his apology video, the third one, he was very much like, I spoke to so many people. Sorry. It's crazy. I spoke to so many poor people and now I finally know. Know what it's like to be you guys. Paraphrasing clearly. But I was like, honestly, you should have just, like, gone and done a vlog. Like, yeah, in like a Tyra bank style. Just go live the life.
- [113:06]
A
He should have hired you for your thoughts. Did you ever hear back from your email?
- [113:09]
B
Never sent the application.
- [113:10]
A
Okay. You were too scared he might want you. He might be like, we got too deep. We went too far. That's the horror movie.
- [113:18]
B
See, that is giving horror movie.
- [113:19]
A
You go too far into it. You to want. You went too deep. It was just trying to be a joke. And then you're in James Charles and all of a sudden it's like you never make it out.
- [113:25]
B
That reminds me, someone did a, a horror spoof of James Charles. God is a tick tocker. His name is Brett. But he did a whole impersonation like with the Flashback Mary or whatever and did like a horror. And the impersonation is so good. It really was Sister spooky.
- [113:40]
A
Ooh, Flashback Mary is a good horror one because that is giving like the Mary Mary. When you go in the bathroom and be like, you know what I mean? Like, like you just show up.
- [113:48]
B
Bloody Mary.
- [113:48]
A
Yeah, Bloody Mary. Yeah.
- [113:49]
B
It is their sisters.
- [113:51]
A
No punishment, literally. That's his horror movie. I would just give him a good idea watch. He gets a million dollar horror movie called Sisters.
- [113:56]
B
But yeah, the gag of it all is he started his own foundation, which I thought was pretty funny.
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A
A non profit.
- [114:07]
B
His own non profit. The Painted. The Painted Fund.
- [114:11]
A
Painted foundation or something.
- [114:13]
B
Yeah.
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A
And it's like, like I know that
- [114:16]
B
when I post this video today, there will probably be comments of people saying, you know, James, you're only making this response because of the backlash. And I want you to know that is true.
- [114:26]
A
I don't know if that's the move because the Painted Project. Painted Project, it can be a little, you know, most of them are good nonprofits, of course, but if you have a shady leader, nonprofits can be shady. And you're just kind of like kind of odd. Why don't you just work with current.
- [114:44]
B
That's what my foundations. And I know I've been, listen, I've been on record saying, you know, at least performative activism, they're like real people who benefit from it. So I'd rather something be performative than nothing at all because at least like regular people will get something out of it and get help. But Jackie Aina actually said this in response to the James Charles of it all. It was like. The thing is though, like if you don't have a generous heart, I don't know if that can ever change. And I was like, she kind of clocked it on me too. Because even though like ye. He is, you know, donating $250,000 and
- [115:16]
A
to his own foundation.
- [115:17]
B
Foundation and has plans, you know, to help everyone. I'm like, it comes across very insincere to me because like, I just don't think it's in the spirit. I don't think it's in the spirit at all. I mean he says it in his video. Like you might think, James, you're only apologizing because of all the backlash. You're right about that. And I'm like, okay, okay.
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A
No, like, no, like, literally that. And also it's like this all happened like two weeks ago or like, yeah, two weeks ago, I think, like, and the day later you're like, I'm not sorry. I stand by everything I said. And then all of a sudden now it's like, it's all disingenuous and it's like, yeah, be performative, but be performative. Because he even says, like, you know, nonprofits take years for them to start working. So why don't you donate to a charity now that's currently helping people that are unemployed? And like, what Start with like that. The. Well, who's the original Amber? Amber, like, start maybe, you know, the $250,000. Great. To your own nonprofit. Start with, you know, a couple thousand to her, you know, A couple thousand. All these other people. It's like the fact that you're going to your own non profit first and putting all this money in after you're saying you're not sorry and this and all that stuff like that. Like, we know the kind of person you are currently. Two weeks ago. Can people change? Yes. Can they change in two weeks? No, I think that takes like a life and life lessons and all that stuff to learn. So it's like I. It's all. It's all disingenuous and I think people are just over it. Like, honestly, like you said, I guess it's better than nothing. The comeback is way too quick. If you just start doing another makeup tutorial next week, it's like, like, yeah, okay.
- [116:37]
B
And also, this is so James Charles. So Jimmy Chalk coded because literally since I think the big shift in his apologies was like, by sister, where like, he would come back and he acknowledges a bit of it, right? Like he acknowledges something where, like, he reclaims the narrative. So he's like, yeah, I did do this, but this, this and this. So like, there's like a pivot, you know, to something else. And then even with like when he was texting minors, the ones he confessed to in his video was like, I was desperate. He's like, you're right, I was desperate. You know, so like he admits to something and then apologize and it almost feels genuine because he, he's is admitting to like, the worst part of it or whatever. Yeah, part of it. Not even the worst part of it, but part of it. And then, but then he pivots and then, I don't know, he just gets away with it like, he comes across, like, faux humble.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But then that's.
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A
It's very distant, but we see it and, you know, another six months. Is something else gonna happen? It's just like, yes, May. Watch out, James Charles. Want me to sit me out as your quarantine. That's your time to just go away. Because it is. Yeah, it all is. Ick. And the fact that I had a lot of likes. I mean, people are still a fan. And ultimately, I don't think he's uncancel. I think there will be a day James Charles will be, like, finally canceled. But I think it's his own doing. But I think maybe he can turn it around. Maybe he can. It's gonna take more than this, though. It's gotta take, like, some action. But, like. Like you said, like Jackie said, all that stuff. If it's not in your heart, it just won't.
- [118:01]
B
Yeah, I just. I don't really see it for him. I don't.
- [118:04]
C
It will be a test of time. Like, you have to. Because he didn't come up with this, first of all, like, yeah, yeah. This is a very. What he described is very complex. It's very complicated to create all the. The foundation and all the different. Because it's not just a one thing. It's a very multifaceted with different phrases and all that. So somebody sat down and created all that. They pitched it to him, and they told him what the criticism will be, and they told him how to answer to that. You know, like, oh, it'd be low salaries and this and that. Like, so he's, like, diving into every aspect of it. So obviously, a crisis PR management company jumped in, created all this for him. Great. I mean, I'm happy he's taking action because that's what we asked him to do, is to take action to do something. Now on the long run, it's not easy to run a nonprofit. There'll be employees, There'll be people he has to work with. There'll be a lot of things he'll have to do to keep this going. Does he have the capacity to do that? So we'll see. I mean, it's a test of time, but it could become a great foundation that will do a lot, or it will crumble within a year or two.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And. But I would give him a chance, you know, at least make something that can help. But you'll have. You'll have to work hard to make it work.
- [119:21]
A
Yeah. He said it could take a couple years. So I think if it collapsed In a couple years. And would all that money go that he donated to himself?
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B
And there's, like, the website. The link that he promotes, like, just goes to his, like, makeup website, too, so that's awesome.
- [119:36]
A
So there's not a foundation page. Like, it's a.
- [119:38]
B
There's, like, a landing page on the website. Like, the same website where you hear the. The plan for his foundation. It's also, like, buy my new palette.
- [119:46]
A
So. Okay.
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B
And, like, I. I know it's pretty popular. Like, I know Selena Gomez, she has, like, the Rare Impact Fund for rare beauty, but it's also, like, rare impact.org like, it's a separate website.
- [119:57]
A
Yeah. And like, a mission.
- [119:59]
B
Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. And it's also, like, a girl you were having going such a fit, about $1500, and then now you're just throwing 250.
- [120:09]
A
It's so weird.
- [120:10]
B
Like, you have that much money and you were so upset about $1,500 is crazy.
- [120:13]
A
Yeah, that is wild. No, the whole thing is gross and weird. Just like him.
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B
Yeah.
- [120:20]
A
And, yeah, whatever. I mean, good for it. Good for it. But also, I'd be skeptical to donate to the Painted Foundation. Just keep donating to yourself, I guess, and just try and help people if that's what you're gonna do in the long run. There's also very many organizations and gofundmes out there that you could be donating to that could help people right now in real time. So good luck to it, like you said. But y' all be careful donating to the Painted foundation, huh? Many other organizations out there. We'll list them below, actually, because there's probably so many other ones you could be helping that are currently actively doing
- [120:51]
B
well for people, t. Because basically what he's trying to do is just mutual aid and, like, mutually. Mutually is a thing that, like, has been going on forever. And also, it's, like, not exclusive to starting your own foundation to. Do you know what I mean? Like, especially with, like, the ICE raids, people need a mutual aid. Like, there's been so many crises, like Palestine. Like, there's been so many. And, like. Like, it's so easy to just, like, donate when you see them. Sharing when you can. Yes, again, I can't believe we had to go through all this just to get to mutual aid. Like, that's the big resolution.
- [121:19]
A
That's like your own. Yeah. Doing them out there. I don't like him. I don't like James. Every day we talk about it, it's like, oh, it's like the. Yeah. It's like a little. To me.
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B
I know.
- [121:32]
A
That is a horror movie. We should write one about him.
- [121:34]
B
That would be easy. There's be the biopic. Maybe the biopic is the horror movie.
- [121:39]
A
Who's playing him, though? Who's playing James Charles?
- [121:41]
B
That you? Whoever we cast needs a lot of therapy.
- [121:45]
A
Yeah.
- [121:45]
B
Yeah.
- [121:45]
A
Cleansing, huh?
- [121:47]
B
It's almost like casting the Harry Potter kids. Like, you're setting those kids up to be eaten alive. Like, you really got to protect the talent.
- [121:52]
A
Oh, God. And David's tough. Probably love it too much.
- [121:55]
B
Yeah. Tea.
- [121:57]
A
Yikes. Well, Just, like, look at each other.
- [122:05]
B
He is something else. He's a piece of work.
- [122:07]
A
I know. What do you think his next move is? Come out with another palette.
- [122:11]
B
See, it's gonna be funny seeing him navigate though, because, like, he wants so badly to, like, still be tea and he can't. Like, he loves being.
- [122:19]
A
Yeah.
- [122:20]
B
He lives for it.
- [122:20]
A
Like, well, that's who he is.
- [122:22]
B
He's a little mean girl complex because he was a loser in high school, which is the tea. Like, he was a nerd. He had terrible taste of fashion.
- [122:31]
A
No one liked him.
- [122:31]
B
He looked a mess. He was a happy to look a mess.
- [122:34]
A
Right.
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B
And he was just like, a loser. And now he's living out his mean girl complex because he has money and a BBL and thinks he can, like, bully people. Well, baby. Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
- [122:47]
A
Yeah. I don't know if it's working out.
- [122:48]
B
No. That's why I am very much seated for the James Charles lashings. Like, anytime anyone's posting a James Charles, like, think piece about the Spirit Airlines. I've heard the Spear Airlines video 30, 000 times at this point, but I'm seated every time someone's making a video. I forgot to bring this up earlier, but that just reminded me of in London, did you see the drag queens doing the Trisha show?
- [123:09]
A
Yes. That was everything. The next day. Yes. I didn't know I would have stayed an extra day. I had no idea that was happening.
- [123:15]
B
Yes. Because the. The girls were doing a little. A little lip sync to a. To a Trisha monologue. And I was like, I could almost do a lip sync to James Charles Pierre Airlines video because I know it so well.
- [123:24]
A
Just have it memorized.
- [123:25]
B
I love all the queens. They were so teeny doing you. I know.
- [123:29]
A
Okay. Body. I know. They look so. I know. Adam actually had told me, I think the night before. And I, like, left the next day, 6am but had I known, I probably could have stayed an extra day to See it. That is like the ultimate when drag queens do, like, a tribute to you and London Noel. So I was like, right there. That would have been. I know I missed it. I'm so sad about it. Next time, next trip. I.
- [123:50]
B
There is. God, where is it? Oh, in New York, they do the. The Dramageddon Drag Show. There's like a Tati.
- [123:57]
A
There's no.
- [123:58]
B
Yeah.
- [123:58]
A
Now currently.
- [123:59]
B
It was a couple months ago, but I think they've repeated it because one of the drag queens that does Shane, they're on Tik Tok and they do their impersonation on TikTok and it's really good. They do it really well.
- [124:09]
A
There is a queen that does a really good show. Maybe they've done like me there too. It's called Jimmy, you can bleep the first half the Asia. Have you heard of that?
- [124:18]
B
I think that's. Is it like Hell's Kitchen.
- [124:20]
A
Yeah, yeah. And they do a lot of those, too. They do a lot of the. I wonder if that's the same because they do a live scene then do like influencers. She's done like me before.
- [124:27]
B
That's fair.
- [124:28]
A
I love. I love shows like that. I love a drag show.
- [124:31]
B
Oh, I. We have to end on my. I forgot about this topic too, but the Tati Westbrook Go Go Juice. I really want that Go Go Juice. Tati, please.
- [124:39]
A
No idea what you're talking about. But before I forget, I want to hear about it before I forget. Yeah, good drag queen name. Fisha Paytas like fish. I love it. Anyways, okay, let's hear about the Go Go Juice.
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B
Was.
- [124:54]
A
Was that good or what are we laughing at? I don't know if that was what you're laughing at or the break.
- [124:59]
B
Okay, I see the vision. I see the vision.
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A
Fisha.
- [125:03]
B
I think it used to be a little bit even punnier, though. Oh, yeah.
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A
Fisha fist this.
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B
There we go.
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A
Okay.
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B
That's it, baby fish.
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A
Okay, yeah. Okay.
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B
Fisha. Fish. This is amazing.
- [125:17]
A
Okay, I like that.
- [125:17]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [125:18]
A
She's a fat ass fish. A fat ass fisha. Pay this money for me to perform. Okay, back. I have not seen the Tatigoto Juice. What is it? We have to get to our extended Patreon too. I have Wizard Liz. I want to talk about Wizard Liz on there.
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B
Yeah, well, I. I don't have much to say. I'm just. This is just a plating.
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A
It's the Go Go Juice.
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B
She. She came back with a new product and it's.
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A
It's called Go Go Juice.
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B
It's Tati's Go Go Juice.
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A
She just took that from Toddlers and Tiara. She just, like, literally stole that too. What's with that? For all the beauty people stealing everyone's ideas. Let's credit.
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B
We're not gonna get all the PR list.
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A
Toddlers and Tiaras. I think she calls it Go Go Juice.
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B
It's Go Go Juice. Wait a minute.
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A
She stole that from literally, Toddlers and Tiaras. That's crazy.
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B
I'm pretty sure that's what it's called.
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A
Called?
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B
Yes. Tati's Go Go Juice.
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A
Is she Honey Boo Boo?
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B
Why? Yeah. Unfair advantage. Tati Go Go Juice. It's like an energy drink.
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A
Influencers need to be stopped. Too many people created.
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B
I have no affiliation. You want me on that PR list? I want that damn PR list. Come on.
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A
You are. I had to always remind you I'm a Tati apologist, which is crazy. Tati the 40 year old, right?
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B
I mean, just ahead of her time, I fear.
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A
But also attacking a little. She befriended him at 17 years old, so maybe that's on you girlfriend at 38. Like, I'm her age now and I couldn't imagine being a 17 year old. Like, I befriended and he acts like a 17 year old. Like, what are you doing calling yourself mom?
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B
I should have called it time and place or just straight up sucking.
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
That would have been a good.
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A
That would have been good for the Grinder audience.
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B
Released like a popper line time where it was like sucking.
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
She would be a billionaire. Oh, my God.
- [126:55]
A
You should apply to her for us asking for her. You have so many good ideas. James Charles will get none of those ideas. Did we post it on the Patreon?
- [127:05]
B
Which one?
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A
Yeah, you have the Tick Tock that you did on there?
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B
Yeah, Well, I didn't. I wanted to really finish and post it, but I'm like, I can't because people. It was a bit. And then people were starting to use that against me. Like, they'd be like, wow, how can you be applying to work for Anti Spirit?
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A
Did you not edit the Tick Tock together?
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B
No, because I didn't want to contribute
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A
to the James Charles Patreon exclusive. They need to see that. That was so good. It's a joke. Clearly. It was also before the James Charles real. The craziness that came out from it. But it was before Spirit. You need to do it. That's okay.
- [127:35]
B
Okay, T. Maybe I'll just still do it. I have all the footage still just for Patreon.
- [127:40]
A
The TikTok's easy to edit. I would assume it's like.
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B
Yeah, it is easy. I mean, I have the content in there. I just didn't tick tockify, if that makes sense. You know what I mean?
- [127:48]
A
Okay. Yeah, we need to tick tockify because I think. All right, you guys. Well, thanks for being here. Let us know if you want Tati's Go Go Juice or James
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B
get painted by James.
- [128:02]
A
None of it. Who should play him in the biopic? Let us know which one Direction was your favorite and which one is your least favorite. Let us know if Obsession is great. Is Jacob Elordi Hotel. Should Moses do more cooking tiktoks, not just cooking videos. And should Oscar keep vlogging? Yes to all of the above. And I love you guys. Go check out Moses at Moses cooking videos. They're so good. Can't wait to see what you're cooking up tonight. What are you cooking up tonight?
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C
We might make, like, homemade shawarma. Because people ask for simple chicken recipe, and this one is.
- [128:38]
A
Oh, you're gonna make chicken shawarma. I thought it was like, beef shawarma.
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C
Simple.
- [128:42]
A
I love all Moses cookings. They're all delicious, and I'm excited for that. My dad loved your stuffed zucchinis last week. He was raving about those when I was in London. Check out Oscar's vlog. He has his unfurnished house tour on his main. And then new one up.
- [128:57]
B
Right. Well, now when we're watching this, what's the new one? It's house update furnish tour, kind of. And yeah, yeah.
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A
Okay. Love that.
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B
That's a key.
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A
Okay. Check out Patreon for also the furnished house tour.
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B
Oh, no. It's your reaction.
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A
Okay. It's like, I'm doing it. Okay, got it. Okay. Go there. And it's a great one. It is great. And that's it. Go check out my memoir, Crying on the Kitchen Floor. It's coming out soon. The more closer it gets, the more nervous I get. I'm like, ooh, gotta do the audiobook. And I'm nervous I'm gonna go through the audiobook and be like, oh, maybe I shouldn't put all this in there. And then it'll be too late. Cause the final manuscript has been handed in. And I'm getting nervous. And I'm like, ooh, I don't know what's going to happen, but it's going to be out there. And that's it. I love you guys. Thanks for being here. Go to patreon. Com. Just trish if you want to see our extended bonus, which we're going to do for you now because we were doing a finish last week, so we'll go over there. I have lots to talk about. I love you guys, and we'll see you soon.