Just Trish Jun 12, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just Trish – June 12, 2025

Hosted by Trisha Paytas and co-hosted by Emmy-award-winning entertainment journalist Oscar Gracie, the June 12, 2025 episode of "Just Trish" delves into a myriad of topics ranging from personal updates and social causes to the intricate dynamics of celebrity relationships and content creation challenges.

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1. Introduction and Personal Updates

The episode kicks off with Trisha Paytas sharing exciting updates about her recent projects and content initiatives. She highlights their latest endeavor:

Trisha Paytas [00:15]: "Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all gossips, filthy rich, really hot topic queen and says what everybody think she's just."

Trisha discusses their hour-and-a-half reaction to the Shane Dawson documentary, emphasizing its impact:

Trisha Paytas [01:22]: "Well, before the Jeffree series, I got 700 million likes."

She also announces the streaming of their Boston show, scheduled for June 25th, and encourages listeners to join their Patreon for extended content.

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2. Supporting Trans Rights: Creators for Peace

Oscar Gracie shares his involvement in a significant event aimed at supporting trans rights:

Oscar Gracie [02:15]: "Oh, actually I'm doing something exciting this weekend."

The co-host explains the event's structure and its goal to raise funds for trans rights, mentioning that fellow co-host Viviana Wilson will be the guest of honor.

Oscar Gracie [02:39]: "It's just a bunch of creators coming together and everyone... raising money to support trans rights."

Trisha expresses her enthusiasm and support for Oscar's participation:

Trisha Paytas [03:33]: "First of all, that's so huge. Congrats. Also good. Cause..."

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3. Labubu Collectibles and Pop Mart Theft

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Pop Mart collectibles, specifically the elusive Labubus. The group shares anecdotes about thefts and the challenges of securing these items:

Oscar Gracie [12:32]: "He got it. Got delivered yesterday. He opened the door 10 minutes later after he saw the notification, it was gone."

Trisha humorously suggests solutions to prevent future thefts, including a sting operation:

Trisha Paytas [13:49]: "But they're just, like, waiting down in the mail room. Like, he got there 10 minutes later."

They further joke about the concept of Labubu insurance, highlighting the absurdity yet acknowledging the real frustration caused by theft:

Oscar Gracie [15:19]: "Now insurance companies are offering Labubu insurance, and people are taking it up."

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4. Relationship Insights: Trish and Moses

Trisha and Moses delve into their personal relationship, sharing candid stories about their financial struggles before marriage and the importance of prioritizing their bond over monetary concerns.

Trisha Paytas [27:00]: "I remember crying because I was like, oh, my God. We were, like, a month out."

They discuss the challenges of managing finances as content creators and the support they've provided each other through tough times.

Moses Hacmon [28:31]: "But no, but I remember, like, she was like, she set me down."

Trisha offers advice on being cautious in relationships, emphasizing the significance of genuine connections over superficial attractions.

Trisha Paytas [30:57]: "Be careful who you marry. Everybody. That's the moral of that story."

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5. Celebrity Relationships and Industry Dynamics

The conversation shifts to the complexities of celebrity relationships, especially when actors date outside their industry. Using Glenn Powell and Sydney Sweeney as examples, Trisha and Oscar explore the ensuing jealousy and public scrutiny such relationships attract.

Oscar Gracie [37:08]: "She always went to zero. You always spent everything you had."

They compare these dynamics to other celebrity couples, highlighting the unique challenges faced by those in the spotlight.

Trisha Paytas [50:04]: "She didn't call her daddy, though. Was she on Call her daddy?"

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6. Wealth and Authenticity in Content Creation

A critical segment of the episode focuses on the portrayal of wealth by influencers like Mr. Beast. Trisha and Oscar debate the authenticity of extravagant spending sprees versus genuine charitable efforts.

Trisha Paytas [35:57]: "Don't believe like the Internet."

They express concern over the impact such displays have on audiences, particularly younger viewers who may feel inadequate.

Trisha Paytas [36:30]: "Money does not mean everything. Money doesn't."

The duo advocates for more authentic and meaningful charitable actions over ostentatious spending for views.

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7. Vlogging, Podcasting, and Content Creation Challenges

Trisha and Oscar discuss the logistical challenges of maintaining a content schedule amidst personal commitments. They touch upon the intricacies of self-taping, editing, and the constant balancing act required in the digital content landscape.

Trisha Paytas [105:26]: "We have a guest coming up this Saturday and it's the first request we have for a mukbang interview."

They highlight the importance of preparation and time management in producing consistent and engaging content.

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8. Dating Apps and Ghosting Experiences

Both hosts share their experiences and frustrations with modern dating dynamics, particularly focusing on ghosting through dating apps.

Oscar Gracie [96:20]: "I was like, I'm done with men."

Trisha offers a nuanced perspective, expressing a preference for clear communication over ambiguous silence.

Trisha Paytas [97:27]: "I'd rather someone just, like, ignore me than tell me."

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9. Final Remarks and Future Plans

As the episode concludes, Trisha and Oscar reflect on emerging trends, upcoming projects, and express their commitment to staying authentic in their content creation journey. They tease future episodes, upcoming livestreams, and emphasize the importance of community support.

Trisha Paytas [140:00]: "We love you guys so much. Go watch the extended podcast us, and we'll see you next time. Bye."

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Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Paytas [02:15]: "Mr. Beast did a new video where he spent up to a million dollars taking his fiance out on dates."

• Oscar Gracie [15:28]: "People are taking Labubu insurance up because it's real."

• Trisha Paytas [35:57]: "Don't compare yourself to other people... Money does not mean everything."

• Oscar Gracie [37:08]: "She always went to zero. You always spent everything you had."

• Trisha Paytas [50:04]: "She didn't call her daddy, though. Was she on Call her daddy?"

• Oscar Gracie [96:20]: "I was like, I'm done with men."

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This episode of "Just Trish" offers an engaging blend of personal anecdotes, social commentary, and insightful discussions on the evolving landscape of digital content creation and celebrity dynamics. Trisha and Oscar provide listeners with a candid and unfiltered look into their lives, making complex topics accessible and relatable.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Mr. Beast.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so weird you said that. I had a dream last night he lost all his money. That is so weird you said that. That is so weird.

[Oscar Gracie]

Missing the Tonys and the Las Cocha Risas Culture Awards.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

And you missed the Grammys.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And the Oscars.

[Trisha Paytas]

We got it. We got it. Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all gossips, filthy rich, really hot topic queen and says what everybody think she's just. Yay. Hello and welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. Get your mugs today@just trish.com we are so happy to be here. Also, we are streaming areas of Trish. Did you miss my tour? Well, you're in luck. We did a pro shot. We filmed our Boston show and it is streaming for a limited time June 25th. I'll be in that live stream at 5:30pm Pacific Standard Time, 8:30pm Eastern Time. Get your tickets today at erasa trish.com and before I forget, because we always forget patreon.com America because me and Oscar have been working overtime to give you a production. Okay. We just did a hour and a half react to my Shane Dawson documentary. The first Shane Dawson documentary after actually that like blew him up. And that blew him up.

[Oscar Gracie]

He was a small indie creator before you came along.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, before the Jeffree series, I got 700 million likes. There was a series about Trish where I was very sad and depressed in that one. But get my reactions to it and Oscar's reactions to it. Oscar becomes Shane during our Patreon videos. But the good days, the non problematic Shane, the wholesome parts of Shane, it's so. It gives me like so much nostalgia flashbacks as we're just watching and eating like YouTube which is what me and Jane used to do all the time. Like we watch Strawberry 17. We should just watch Strawberry 17 just for fun so I can pretend you're Shane in 2012. Just healing this trauma for me. I'm like, we're going back in time.

[Oscar Gracie]

So.

[Trisha Paytas]

So go check that out. It's up now. We do extended podcasts over there. Patreon.com Trish There'll be a new head shot of the month up there. It's my pride. Look, we just, we love you over there. So check it all out. Oscar, where can they find you?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, actually I'm doing something exciting this weekend.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar Gracie]

On Sunday, I am a part of Creators for Peace that's supporting trans rights.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love a lot of iconic creators. Again, it's one of those things where it's like, girl, why am I in the mix? Because it's like vanilla mace the Try guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stop it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oscar from Just Trish. I don't know if I'm on the promo materials, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's just a bunch of creators coming together and everyone. I think people stream on their own platforms as well. But then it'll be like on the Creators for Peace channels. Again, we're just raising money to support trans rights and. No, Vivian Wilson is also. She's like the guest of honor.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, so what does that mean? Are you guys all doing it from home or you're gonna.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, it' the Try Guys studio. And like. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're all just like on there on your stream.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's almost like a telethon or something. Cuz it's like it's the whole day it goes. And like there's. I haven't got the schedule yet, but they're scheduling it out with like different creators throughout the day. And then if anyone isn't like in the LA area, they can stream it from like their home and. Yeah, so it'll be like all over the place.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know you were doing that. Yes, it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it'll be on a bunch of different creators. Twitch or YouTube channels. Yeah. And the creators for Peace Channel as well. Yeah. Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

First of all, that's so huge. Congrats. Also good. Cause. Oh my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

We.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the lead. Oh my God. Everyone go there first, Check out everything else after. Yeah, that's really. That's really cool. I love. Yeah. She is like the new it girl I'm kind of like obsessed with.

[Oscar Gracie]

She is the girl for sure. Yeah. Everyone wants to collaborate her as they should. She's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's so funny. Real. She was a stripper before this. Love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love her whole lore. I mean, I'm very late to the Vanilla Matrix.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. I'm always late to it. But I was like, love her. Love the Try guys doing it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. Yeah, it's cool. Everyone coming together and supporting. I'm so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's actually so cool.

[Oscar Gracie]

But again, it's one of those things where I'm like, if you weren't so pregnant, I would literally get on my hands and knees and beg you to come with me because I'm scared. I'm like, it's all like the cool kids and then everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are so much better at socializing. Like you're the networker for sure. You're so. I'm always in awe when you go out with anybody, like, you know, Anna Collins or, like, Misha Spice. Like, you're like. You're so brave. Kiji Cinderella. I get my anxiety, which I didn't know I had anxiety, but I get, like, panicked, like, day of. I'm like, I should just cancel. I should just do this. Yeah. Being pregnant is a great excuse, but this is our last baby where I'm just like, what do I do when I get pregnant? Yeah. Like, I'm pregnant. I can't. Oh, my God, that's so exciting.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I'm very excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're gonna do great.

[Oscar Gracie]

Nerves, but excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're by yourself. Or Darian.

[Oscar Gracie]

Or I might make Darian come with me for sure. Just to have, like, someone to talk to you in the corner just in case.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you're gonna. Oh, my God, you're gonna be so slay. Yeah. You have to bring your digital camera. Take pictures with everybody.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah. I don't know. I feel like everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Content creators.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, we'll be doing content, I would assume. Right? I would think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

[Oscar Gracie]

I hope that Nibison is there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was just gonna ask that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Usually I feel like he doesn't turn down a collab, and I feel like he usually participates in them. So here's hoping.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll schedule chat because I think I have all the guests for when I'm giving birth. But we should definitely schedule Ted because I love him. And I love him too. Honestly. He's one of those ones where I'm like, we have nothing in common. But when he was here, he was so much fun. It's fun to talk to just people who are so different. Yeah. Just a different, like, way of life and thinking, like, you know, because we're so simple. Like, we are different, but we're, like, so similar too, you know? And it's like talking to someone who's just so, I don't know, different.

[Moses Hacmon]

You also gotta find something new. Like, what's the new guning?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. We talked about gooning with him. I have to look that up. I, like, don't remember. Right. Well, you know, it'll just flow. I like it too. Cause I don't have to, like, prepare. It's kind of just flows.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I had questions last time, but it kind of didn't.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I wrote you some. And then you. You exposed me. You said Oscar wrote this question for you. What is it like being straight? Oh, my Which I still want to know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sorry. I have God, sometimes I can be. I thank you guys for calling me out. Sometimes I can be mean to Moses and Oscar. I try not to be, but, oh, my God, it's like my inner something.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, it wasn't. It was more like, this is your question.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but not me being like, these questions. Oscar wrote like, oh, my God, you work so hard. You wrote the questions for me. I need to not do that. I. I do that. I always. I'm that person who tries to blame other people. I blame myself for everything, but I'm so excited. And then you're labubu. You're matching.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yes. What is happening? You guys know I normally don't take my labubus out, but just for a little, like, a vibe. A vibe lift. I'm matching my labubu today.

[Trisha Paytas]

How. How did this happen?

[Oscar Gracie]

Actually, I just googled le booboo clothes, and I saw this little vest, and I'm like, wait, I literally have that same vest.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you already had the vest.

[Oscar Gracie]

I already have the vest. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, I can twin with my labubu.

[Trisha Paytas]

So much alike.

[Oscar Gracie]

How to get the glass. He had glasses, so I'm like, this is perfect. I put these little shoes on him.

[Trisha Paytas]

The shoes are adorable. Those are giving baby vibes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Wait, so the glasses already came with the labu boo?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, it came with this little vest. This is kind of a mishmash of different outfits that I had to put together that kind of looked like what I could.

[Trisha Paytas]

The jorts.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I got the jorts today. Hopefully no jord skate between me, my labo, But I think we're on good terms, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I kind of wear my jors. I have them. I forget. I keep forgetting to wear them.

[Oscar Gracie]

You do wear the jor, but, yeah. And I love that new Lizo song where it's like, why are you talking about me? But you can't outdress my labu boo? And I feel like that's kind of what I'm giving today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Did she just come out with that song? That's so relevant.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's not even, like, officially out yet. It started on Tik Tok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what?

[Moses Hacmon]

When she tagged you, everyone was like, oh, she's so trishko. They're talking about lab boo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boo's in that, though. Oh, my God, I love that. Okay. I love it. Is it he pronouns? What are the pronouns? I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Technically, if you want to get into the Lore. The little ones are all girls, and the big giant ones are men.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Or boys, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. She's rocking.

[Oscar Gracie]

I heard that. He. He told me. He's. He. Him.

[Trisha Paytas]

He did.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, So I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And I put a little extra blush on today to kind of match him as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, that's actually so cute. Did you take a picture? This is so cute. Yeah, this is a cute. I can bring him to the. Or bring him to the Teleton. Yes, I got it. You said she, and now I know. Okay, got it. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think he'll leave the house. Besides today, you know, I get really anxious about, like, taking the boo boos out.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so sad. You should put them on your little jorts when you go, because that's so cute if you're just hanging off the side.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you're going with Darien, then you can. This is like your baby, so you can practice, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

But this one's the secret. This one's the secret from the set. So it's. It's. He's really hard to come by, so I'm kind of scared.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you're around all the influencers. If they saw that, they're gonna be like, that's true.

[Oscar Gracie]

That is a flex.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a Birkin. You know what I mean? It's like, look at this. They'll think you're so cool. It's a good conversation starter.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I can bring Moses's lefoufu.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, don't show it. It's cursed, first of all.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, do not. I was making a tick tock with him this morning, and as I was doing that, I was like, wanted to know how to call it. It has my name. Do you know that this character is my name? Literally M O S H E. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

His name is Moshe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, with just like an I before the S. Moishe. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's weird. Did you. Not weird, but did you look up the origin? Love the name. But I'm just saying.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I was trying. Right when we started, I was trying to watch a video to see how they pronounce it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But how would they pronounce it?

[Moses Hacmon]

I would say Moishe, like you did.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what is she?

[Moses Hacmon]

Literally my name. That's insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is actually crazy. Okay, I take back the curse thing. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No demonic energy in this house. He's. He's. He's great. I love him for you. I love him for you. Honestly, I Just give. You're right. Sorry. I'm a. Okay. Love it. Love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

No. How do we know the name? I wouldn't mind, but once I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

My name is literally he's meant to be for you. You love him. Who am I to stop your happiness? Moses is happy. I mean, I picked him out of the crowd, so I love that it makes you happy. I mean, he's really been going through it with me and the kids. I can't bend over. He's been having to take off and Especially when I was away for five days. And yesterday I was finally here to help with bath time and I was exhausted. I was like, oh, my gosh, like. And I had Malibu. The easy one. You know what I mean? It's just like, oh, man, I couldn't. You've been going through it. So. I'm glad you have happiness in your life. I feel bad. I'm like, are you. Am I sucking the life out of you? I'm so sorry. But okay, that makes you happy, babe. I'm happy for you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you're. You're. What did we call that? Is it a lefufu? What is that?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's moisture.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

He actually has a name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Well, we love him for making you happy. I love this one though. I love the matching. That's the most iconic.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I love the little outfits. Now that I am really starting to get a lot of them, I feel like my next hyper fixation is outfits for the Lububu collection. I think that's where I'm going.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel that's dangerous territory because it's like so much money.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, you can get them on AliExpress. Pretty. They just take like two months to get here. But yeah, when the little boo boos are done, it's like three bucks for the outfit. It's pretty good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's like a child. I mean, even our. Our kids, I mean, I just recycle. Even the new boy. Boy. I'm like, he's gonna be wearing pink little strawberry onesies. You know what I mean? Cuz it's expensive. Baby clothes are expensive than they grow. I guess the boo boo's never grow out of it. True.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah. They're like the one size, so that helps. Yeah. So it's my little emotional support that we. I guess I will have to bring it on on Sunday.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should wear this whole outfit. It's a vibe.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work. Yeah, I really like it. And matching with it. So cute.

[Oscar Gracie]

The ultimate flex is definitely matching. So Cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I actually can't get over it. It's like an American Girl doll. But not problematic. You know, they're problematic. Those histories of not the mug. Cam with not our mug. This is the mug.

[Oscar Gracie]

Can go out and get your jaws mugs now, everybody. Yeah. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess we did get that from Meet and Greet. Thank you for our meet and greet. All the guests here are from meet and greets. We have an AI Version of me as the president. We have Britney Spears dolls. We have this. This is beautiful. Over here, this thing. They're all beautiful. Thank you. We'll just be showing more gifts throughout the. Throughout the show because we got so many. Jimmy got his. He was showing it on his story. That was so cool.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I sent it with the footage as a little. As a little surprise and apologies to Jimmy. I feel like I kind of cursed him. I have, like, the oppos. Manifestation right now. Because last episode, I was like, y' all don't worry about Jimmy. He got a. The rare big labubu. And it did get stolen from his front door. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

When? I thought he already had it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I thought he had it too.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, he got it. Got delivered yesterday. He opened the door 10 minutes later after he saw the notification, it was gone. It was gone. The b. It's, like, so hard to get. I felt so. I feel like I did curse him. I have, like, the opposite of manifestation.

[Trisha Paytas]

We gotta take that energy away, change his address.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, I think. I think they know.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. That's what I told them. But we're planning a heist, though. Or a. A bust. We're trying to bust him. We. Because I. The one that I bought him came in. So we're gonna save that pop mart box and seal it up and make it look like it's a new delivery.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then what?

[Oscar Gracie]

And then set up hidden cameras inside the box.

[Moses Hacmon]

Glitter boxes. Like, you remember they had the glitter box.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. That's a good idea.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or. Or it'd be hard to just put an air tag in there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, smart.

[Moses Hacmon]

So you can try My guess. You know, it's closer than you think. It's probably a neighbo.

[Oscar Gracie]

Someone.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's probably a neighbor. Just looking at the people and knowing they know what they got because they got it already.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they're just, like, waiting down in the mail room. Like, he got there 10 minutes later.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was right to his door. Not even the mail room.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's somebody looking through it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I'm like, it's an inside job on his floor. Not me. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you sure you've been saying, that's crazy. All right, well, we revoke all that negative energy. We're putting manifestation in for you and your life. You're looking for better things. We're all looking for better things. I do group manifestation. Someone asked me if I do this. I'm doing group manifestations for everyone. Because after my Gerard Way picture, everyone's like, can you do a group? Yes. I am manifesting a way better 2025, this ending. From here on out. What is today's date? June 12th. From here on out, it's gonna be. It's gonna be better for everyone listening. Claim this energy, crack that egg, release the negative energy. Kind of crack the egg, I think in water. All the negative energy goes down. Put that water under your bed, and that's it. That's all you got to do.

[Moses Hacmon]

And just don't forget it there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, don't forget it there. I guess my smell or whatever, but I'm trying. I'm trying, you guys. I know sometimes. Sometimes manifesting, it sounds a little crazy, but you gotta think positive. You can't think of a curse. I just call that one curse. I take back the curse. You're not a curse. Jimmy's gonna get an abundance of Labubus. Pop Mart. We take it back. We don't need the. We don't need the PR package. Send it to Jimmy Wetzel.

[Oscar Gracie]

Justice for Jimmy's.

[Trisha Paytas]

You send it here. Actually, send it here. Yes, we'll send it to him.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm like, come on now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll drop it off. We'll go eat.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait. We'll bring him the cards. We'll.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I've been telling him that, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

But not even that. I feel like it's that part. We'll go to, like, Benihana, which is like, you know, it's not close, but it's like 20 minutes. We'll go to Benjamin and then drop it off over there. You know, we'll be in the area. We'll do it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. With security.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be the security. So Pop Mart. We only need one for Jimmy, but if you want to send three, we'll take it. We'll take it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll make our whole show a little boo boo show. And they'll stay behind Oscar every single time.

[Oscar Gracie]

Which did bring me to one of my Hot Topics. Now insurance companies are offering Labubu insurance, and people are taking it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's 94. There's a company in Australia that is starting, oh, a 98 policy to cover the Labubu collection. Because Lububu theft is obviously is real. It's very real. We're personally afflicted by the boob.

[Moses Hacmon]

But you can buy three labubas for that amount, right? Or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, the one that Jimmy bought was like 150 because it's the big one. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

But how soon do they pay you out?

[Oscar Gracie]

You are asking the good question two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Years later down the road.

[Oscar Gracie]

That is true. That is true.

[Trisha Paytas]

They need Morgan and Morgan on that case sponsor today's episode. That's crazy though. That's. Yeah, that is good. But look, insurance. I don't know. I guess we all need it. But also, does it work? I don't know. It takes forever. I just did the Morgan warning aggregate. It says that sometimes they hold. They hold it because they hold your money. So they try to drag it out.

[Oscar Gracie]

True. Insurance is very dicey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And so I don't know, the Boo Boo insurance, if they're gonna pay out that quickly, they should. If it's, you know, $100 at some.

[Oscar Gracie]

Point will offer some kind of like legit. Yeah. Labubu insurance. Because it is. It's real.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should do that on those packages. Do they? They don't offer the insurance.

[Oscar Gracie]

No. But he's trying through. Through ups. And I'm like, yeah, really? You know, fight the man on this, Jimmy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, but like, seriously, Jimmy, stop sending him to your house. Like, send him to our.

[Oscar Gracie]

Literally. I've been telling him this, you know, victim blame, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Right, right. But I think that it's like the second. It's an epidemic.

[Oscar Gracie]

It is an epidemic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. Set him to ours. Although now I'm scared it's. It will happen here too. I'll be like. I don't know, like they'll see the Pop Mart and whatever. But. But you still can. I think ours might be. I don't know. That is crazy though, because he lives in a very safe building.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, my. At my. I don't even send him to my apartment either. I send him to my parents house and I've never. I had like three boxes come in the other day and it's been fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

So an overflow of Labubus.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Because I did accidentally buy. Not a Labubu on. On the TikTok shop.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not a little.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I think I just blacked. I think I thought I was buying a little Boo Boo because when it goes up on the TikTok shop, I kind of black out. And the box came, and I was like, what the hell is this?

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

A hachi? A hot cheek poo. It's a hot Cheek poo poo. Well, guess What? I got 12 of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Oh, my God. Did you actually black out? That's so scary.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I think because it happens so fast, and then, like, the host are, like, yelling at you, now, now, buy it. And I'm like, I think. I thought it was doing checking out with a Labubu, but it was a hachi poopoo. And I want to see. I have 12 of them. They're like little. They're bag charms, but they're like little, like ball. Like fuzzy balls. They're kind of cute, but, yeah, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Won'T lose your keys if you put them on a keychain or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

Positive outlook.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I love that. My mom was here the other day. I had a fuzzy thing. She goes, you should put these on so you never lose. We have one. We have a giant Minnie Mouse on our keys. So we never lose it. It helps. So maybe the hachi poopoos will come through. I like the name.

[Oscar Gracie]

They do look cute paired with the Labubu. When I looked them up, everyone wears the little haunchy poopoo with a labuboo. I was like, that's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I love this. Yeah. I do love this trend, though. The only good thing to have 20, 25 are the Hachi poo poos and the boo boo.

[Oscar Gracie]

Honestly, to you. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'S what I'm saying. Even Moses was his fake one. I'm like, well, if it makes him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Happy, it's not fake.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is the original. No, yours is the fake. This is the original.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. I also love that you're wearing Stitch today. I just noticed that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, okay, well, I ran out of the Amazon shirts.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get more.

[Moses Hacmon]

They don't have more prints.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't Stitch canceled? Didn't he get canceled?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think Stitch got cancelled.

[Trisha Paytas]

The creators. It's fine.

[Oscar Gracie]

Is a. Maybe Lilo's sister. People were mad at Lilo's sister or I guess, isn't he. I don't know. For changing that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Bring Jimmy back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. He had a deep analysis on Lilo and Stitch. This is really good. It looks. I saw some of, like, kids crying. I was like, that's kind of trauma in the.

[Oscar Gracie]

The.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the movie theater.

[Oscar Gracie]

True. They really played it out long. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They were, like, sobbing that he was. It was really sad. I just saw A clip. And he's, like, sinking to the bottom of the ocean. And I was like, oh, my God. All these kids are, like, crying, and he's just, like, peaceful about it. And I was like, this is so.

[Oscar Gracie]

Almost like white lotus when. When the kid. The guy dies with the fruit. But then he looks like he's drowning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Vibes. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I would imagine that he can breathe underwater or something. Like. I know. Don't I know. He's an alien.

[Trisha Paytas]

He sinks.

[Oscar Gracie]

His one weakness is water.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh. He's like the gremlins.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Actually. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's interesting. I was. I had a. Oh, antidote. Oh, well, antidote or a note? I had something to say. Is that an antidote? Is that an anecdote? Anecdote. Is that something to say?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Is it something to add?

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

And Addison Stan currently of course. Yes. He's going hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

He knows. I mean Addison really is. She really is that girl. We love you T. Kyle Mac. He remixed my freaky with the Idol song. I forgot what it was. I think it's called freak or something like that. He's so good.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm just a freak. Yeah, yeah, that he did that Freaks x freaky mashup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It was so good. Wait, that song really was mine. I feel they really did come for my nachos on that one. So anyways, we love you TK Mack. Come on the show. He was like at my New York show and he's like waited in line to meet. I know you. I've gone to brunch with him with Daniel Prada. I was like, you don't have to. It's very nice when people do that. They support but also hit me up if you know me. But the tour is over. But, but air is a trish tattoo. You can get exclusive merch there too. All right, well, are you buying the insurance then or what?

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm not. Because mine is, you know, safe, I guess, in my. Am I. You come in there, you're dealing with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me and the dogs.

[Oscar Gracie]

My own insurance. Yeah, but, yeah, I feel like if anyone needs it, it's Jimmy because, you know, he likes to take his out on the go and I'm not. I'm not.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. You don't take him out. Cause that's the fun. It makes people happy. Whenever I see him at mean greets.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm like, oh, my God, it is fun. It is fun. I just am so, like. Like I would be so anxious 24 7.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what do you do? You just go to admire them?

[Oscar Gracie]

I just walk into my room. They're all. They aren't together on a shelf. I stand there and I just. I nod and I smile.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? You don't even tick tock it? Because I never see anything.

[Oscar Gracie]

You really don't. I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, then you'll need the insurance. You start showing what you have there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. You're very smart. Actually, more people should be like you showing less on social media.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I walk in there sometimes. I'll like, I'll be on the couch with Darian and I'm like, I want to go look at my labubu. And I'll just walk over and look at them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that's cute. Okay, so you, you appreciate them? You admire them? Yeah, I do that with purses. I'm always buying purses, but I never use them. Everyone's like, where do you even go? I'm like, nowhere. I just like to see them.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, sometimes you gotta sit in the closet and just look at them. Be amongst them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, just look at them. They're so pretty.

[Oscar Gracie]

Although I did react to your closet review, your closet tour that you did a couple of weeks ago on my channel. And I was like, I guess I'm just not a purse girl. Because I was looking. I'm like, I don't know if I like a lot of these purses. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, blast me right there. We're fighting. I take back everyday.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what I said too. I said I was. Because when you were buying them too, it was like, like 20. Maybe like 20, 19, 20, 20. I was like, if she. If we were like, close, and I said I didn't like her purse, it'd be Oscar Dumb as hell.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. Not liking person. But you have no taste.

[Oscar Gracie]

I do like your Louise. I like your Louis.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which Cosmo tour was it? Was it the professional one?

[Oscar Gracie]

The insider? Business insider.

[Trisha Paytas]

Louis matches your vest. You know what? I'm. I'm gonna be with you on a lot of these. I do sell a lot of them on Poshmark, because sometimes even I'm like, these are kind of ugly.

[Oscar Gracie]

I. No, I feel like you're probably more in the majority. I feel like most people like the person. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. There's some. That Birkin I'm looking at right now. It's like, the wildest one to me.

[Oscar Gracie]

Was your. Your Chanel birdcage purse like that one? I stand by that. That is a crazy purse of artwork.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been trying to sell it since I got it. Remember, I got it in the quarantine. I didn't know how much it was. I thought, okay, maybe $5,000, $20,000. You can't even put anything in it. It doesn't look.

[Oscar Gracie]

It is also just so the opposite of your brand.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like, where am I gonna wear it? It's tiny.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have an idea, and I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Next.

[Moses Hacmon]

Next episode.

[Oscar Gracie]

See, I like where you're going.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, we're gonna put a little.

[Moses Hacmon]

Boo Boo in it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. A Labubu in there would kind of be changed.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's my Chanel one? Oh, it's over there.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's the way to carry it. It will be more secure. Nobody is gonna try to steal.

[Oscar Gracie]

People want the Labubu more than the $20,000.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so true. All right, props department, get on that for next week. We might as well showcase that ugly bird cage, too, because that thing. I regretted it even. That was the time I was making so much money and I was buying all these Birkins, and I definitely regret it. I know when I think about that, I was like, all the money I was making, I'm like, how did I spend all of it? Like, that's crazy, because, like, now I'm like, in my. I remember my box.

[Moses Hacmon]

She was like, every. Everything was like $50,000. It was like icebox. She made. She made a watch, a sad boy watch out of diamonds. It was like, dollars. But it was like. It was like that. It was like one day, the next day, Dior boxes. Because I would unbox everything for you. There's like, like, 10 Dior boxes, 10 Chanel boxes, then Louis Vuitton.

[Trisha Paytas]

Louis Vuitton is like, yeah, that was. I I don't know what was wrong with me. I guess I just was empty.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, you were making some. Like you said back then, you're making so much, and you didn't see. You know, you didn't think, I'm gonna have kids, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, you didn't think, where is that going?

[Trisha Paytas]

I never thought I'd, like, buy a house. I was like, you know, this is just it for me. But damn.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I think he also didn't transition yet. Like, there was a time on YouTube where you could buy a purse for 30,000, make a video, and the video would make 30,000, honestly. But those. Those days are over. So now you're just buying the stuff and you had to recoup.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. I used to do hauls, and I could, like, just make it back. Like, okay, make it back. But, yeah, nowadays I get, like, 80 bucks for a haul. Yeah. I'm so much better. Thank God. Oh, my God. Thank God. Because I was. Oh, my God, I was spiraling. Even when we got married, I'm like, I still was spending, like, every single penny I earned. I was just like, damn. I remember getting so close to the wedding, and I told Moses, and, like, I have no money left. I'm like, can you take out some credit lines? Because I didn't have good credit. I didn't have anything. So I'm here. I am asking Moses, like, Max on his credit card. I'm surprised you still marry me, to be honest, because I would have been like, hell, no. He's resetting the cameras. He's not ignoring me. It's an awkward time to get disclaimer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. He's walking out.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. Now you. You stood the test. Because I. I remember. I remember crying because I was like, oh, my God. We were, like, a month out. And I remember just being like, I have no more cash and whatever. I hate talking about the wedding, because every time we do, it's like, something awful. Like, whatever.

[Moses Hacmon]

But no, but I remember, like, she was like, she set me down. She's like, okay, this is the situation. I wouldn't say exactly. And I was like, okay, you know, that's the situation. Like, that's the situation we're handling together. Because it's my situation now, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not like, oh, my God, it's your situation, babe, if someone asked me. Because, first of all, he didn't even care about a big wedding or a honeymoon or anything like that. I'm having. I had three weddings planned in my head. We went down to two. But it's like at this point, we're a month away. We've already committed, like we have to like finish this out. And literally, like, I don't know if someone said that to me. And they had like said like, I'm committing this much to the wedding. And then all of a sudden was like, actually don't have that money anymore. I'd been like, well, you wanted this. But I'll tell you what, till the very end too, we were like looking for, I think we had $2,000 we needed to pay the Elvis impersonator. Moses found a way to get that $2,000 and pay that Elvis impersonator. And it was great because our Elvis got Covid, the original one. We paid or whatever. And then we didn't have the money. Yeah, it was crazy. And then he found one. He was on the phone with him. He paid him directly. Moses, the day of our wedding, is giving checks to everybody. Like just here, here's a check. Here's like just writing things out. So I don't know if I would have done that, but glad you did. Thank you for being here.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because the marriage, like when they say, you know, in good or worse, all those things that's before, you know, it's not like at that moment you were like, okay, from this moment on, it's like, no, the moment. No, but the moment you propose. Like, you have to think about all those things that moment. Like, cuz so much can happen between proposal and marriage. Like the actual wedding.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you can get out before the wedding because the vows happen at the wedding. You could have.

[Moses Hacmon]

No getting out, like that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

There literally is. You can't carry me.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right? But my feelings were. My feelings, like they were still the same feelings. They didn't change because of. That's crazy material things.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, mine would have held. That would have been like, what the hell? Cuz that's kind of. I feel like that's why people divorce. Like fraud or something. It's like, but, but I'm not.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I feel. But that's the difference though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like our connection was not because of that. You know what I mean? If I came and I pretended to be a rich man, I'm like, I have a Ferrari, I have a castle, I have this and that. We get married or close to marriage. Then you realize, oh, he was renting, that he owes that this is not his house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, me, right?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's a con man. No, but that's not how it was between us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Which is good. I think that was like, a good thing ultimately, because then I. I don't know if I fully was like, you know, you never know. You never. I never trust anyone because we only knew each other a year. But that's like, I kind of trust him because I have no money. I have nothing going for me. Actually, at the point we got, you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Know, you gotta be in it for the right reasons at this point.

[Moses Hacmon]

But everything, like, everything from that moment on, we built. We built together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that's true. But anyways, be careful who you marry. Everybody. That's the moral of that story. TikTok all these who did marry. Be careful who you marry.

[Oscar Gracie]

Be careful who you cruise with on the other side.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes, the cruising.

[Oscar Gracie]

You never know. I think I still don't know what.

[Trisha Paytas]

It means get married anymore. I mean, now I'm glad I married you, but. Anyone else. People are shady out there. People do love to pretend. They love to pretend, especially when it comes to wealth. And yeah, you don't marry someone for the money. But I would be like, shook if all of a sudden you're like, I have this job. But then I was like, but you're not going to.

[Moses Hacmon]

But there's plenty of men that do trick people, trick women to think that they're. They have more than they really do. Well, that's a real thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I told you before we got married, it's not really fraud. Told you before there was an out. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

But even then, it wasn't like, it wasn't like. Like I kind of knew. Like, I didn't think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, I didn't think.

[Trisha Paytas]

How did you know? You just were like, you're spending too much money.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, you, obviously, you always went to zero. You always spent everything you had. And then before we got married, you pretty much looked at, okay, this is how much I have. I'm gonna make music videos. Exactly. Like, that's literally what I was. She. She made. She scheduled the music videos, and there was like four or five of them. Yeah, she scheduled them all with a budget.

[Oscar Gracie]

Your bank account was your budget of what you could spend.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And then. And then. So pretty much by the last music video, she'll be at zero.

[Oscar Gracie]

The checking account was the budget. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And that's something I gave answer each music video. The budget was dependent on what you know. So that's why the military won the big one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wanted to do like six music videos, including the merch and stuff like that. And I think I had like 3, 350,000. I was like, this is what we got divided into the videos.

[Moses Hacmon]

The videos for the merch cost more than the merch ever made.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

The commercial for the merch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank God for Poshmark people buying that sad boy merch. People see it now and I was like, I remember we sold like literally like 10 units of sad boy merch. And I was just like. And we spent like so much money on it. But Poshmark, slowly but surely we're getting rid of that sad boy. My mom is, is hawking it. It looks good on people, by the way, when people work at the shows. And wow, thank you for buying that four years later. I mean that because what a that was. But anyways, are you still thinking of.

[Oscar Gracie]

Doing a pop up for your decluttering?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes, I have, I have. We're working with organizers, AE organizers. They've been really great. They've been, they've been here organizing. So we're gonna try and we have to get the shelves for the garage. But once we do that. Yeah, we're gonna do a little estate sale. Not at the estate.

[Moses Hacmon]

So we're going to do it at Jimmy's house.

[Oscar Gracie]

Everything will be stolen.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can think about that. Like, do we need to hear who works it? Like I'm trying to figure, is it just my mom like taking transactions? Like, I don't know, it's like any.

[Moses Hacmon]

Other store, it'll be a pop up store. It will be a storefront.

[Trisha Paytas]

You show up, there's so much stuff, you guys. So come one, come all, I'll let you know. It'll probably be like August. It probably won't be before the baby, but probably August. Cause I have so much stuff. I just want to get rid of everything. That's why I'm not good with organizers. Like, that's why most of my mom's helping because I'm like, I literally just say I trash everything. I want nothing. But we have to keep some for the estate sale. Very excited for it. Yes. It's going to come.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh yes. I'm so excited. I'll be there working. I'll take shifts. I know Lena is going to run that like the navy though. She was not going to play.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's not going to play.

[Oscar Gracie]

She uses her personal Instagram just to be like, look what's on Posh today. I'm like, work, Lena. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so true. It's just pictures of items. Like, what's there? Be like, I have an employee discount. I Have to check with Trish, actually.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know it's always funny when I open Instagram and I see something like, wait, this is her. My wife's shirt or shoes. And then I realize what I'm looking at.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is funny. I know. She's like, here's what's in the menu today.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I'm so excited to see her in that pop up. She is gonna be on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's the number one pusher for it. When are we doing it? When is it? I can do it next week. She's very that person that wants to do it right now. Everything right now. She's over here every day getting stuff. I'm like, just slow down. Can you watch kids? I gotta get Posh, though. I was like, okay, let's do the kids and then we'll get the Posh after. But. But yeah, that's coming soon. Maybe the rainbow Birkin will be there. I don't know. Look at the rainbow working off the floor. The rainbow can just sitting on this floor and I just keep thinking like, oh my God, what if, like that's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like it's right next to me on a carpet.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's all nice and all the boo boos in that basket. There's just like a lot happening.

[Moses Hacmon]

We'll get the insurance.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, you do need insurance.

[Trisha Paytas]

There it is. All right. So much happening today, but nothing happening at all. I love it. What are we eating later? We always eat Wendy's. That's like our only.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's been hitting though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wendy's is so good. That's kind of the new fave, I.

[Moses Hacmon]

Think, now that we figured out my burger weekend.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did you know that?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, no, I didn't get the burger update.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thanks to me. Yeah, because I was looking at all the little things. What was it you kept getting the juniors or something like that?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, there's one that just. It looks like the picture looks like a regular burger. It says it is, but it's not. And then there was something else.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like the Dave's one. You need to get like a Dave's burger or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Dave.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Figured it out. Everyone was dying to know their about that. And more of that story too is also just don't believe like the Internet. Oh, my God. You know what I mean? Don't feel bad. Don't compare yourself to other people. Because I think people my whole life are always like, trisha's so rich.

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought she was talking about the burger. I'm talking about the burger. The picture.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that too. Honestly, Those burgers are deceiving on that page. Don't believe anything really. And I'll try and tie it back. I don't know. Don't compare your life to others because I was probably. I was probably the brokest of anyone out there. I was zero, like every month. So actually negative. So, you know, just don't, don't compare. It's okay. Money is also. Does not mean everything. Money doesn't. You know what I mean? It's good to have, I guess, but.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I guess this is a good relationship question for you guys too, that I'm very curious about. It's something that you talked about a lot before. But Scarlett Johansson said how she always had trouble having a relationship with anyone outside of the industry because of all the intimate scenes that she has to do with like partners when it comes to like just romance scenes and obviously sex scenes and how that was always a challenge in her relationships. She said, obviously if I was like dating an oncologist, I wouldn't know what they needed to do for their jobs and like, they wouldn't know which. What was involved with like her jobs with like, you know, the different sex scenes and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think you would know what your oncologist fiance is doing or partner's doing. Like, you know, they're looking at vaginas, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, yeah. Yeah. With oncology, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or is it eyes?

[Moses Hacmon]

Isn't it gynecologist? But what's an oncologist but a gynecologist? Like, that's their. Like it's a doctor.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's an oncologist?

[Oscar Gracie]

They treat cancer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I guess it could be.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. But you would know what they're doing.

[Oscar Gracie]

Then I guess she's saying she wouldn't know, like the technical aspects of it too. And she said, I also think it's easy to create a lot of jealousy when a person is not involved in. In the industry because actors by nature are very free spirited and they create very intimate relationships with people at work. They can be loyal to a partner and also very engaged in all these other kinds of relationships. And I think it can be a blurry line for some people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's your husband? Colin Jost.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. But she said when she's dated outside of the industry always ended bad. I feel like you kind of would agree though, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I did date outside the industry.

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess I only see him as a host. But you're right, he was before he was outside.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Now, yeah, I've done plenty of sex Scenes in the past. I understand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, I think we. Yeah, we do talk about this. I feel like I'm always. I think it's just, like, I'm so, like, hypocritical with this one. Like, you know what I mean? I think it's like. It just depends. I think, if you're a jealous person or not. Because if it's Moses doing a sex scene for a movie, I'm gonna be like, hell, no. But if it's, like, me, like, he's not jealous. You know what I mean? Cause I know trusting. I trust, like, that I don't think that it's gonna go, like, be with Scarlett Johansson if he does a sex scene with her, but it's just jealousy on my end. Who was just talking about this? Oh, Glen Powell's ex girlfriend was talking about it. Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Gigi Paris.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. How she said. What was she on? She was on a pot. Not Call her daddy. Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

She was on a podcast called Too Much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Too Much. And she was saying they. They asked her about the Glenn Powell situation and how he just said, it's work, and work comes first. Like, basically. And she was, like, a lot on the set or something like that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And basically, like, she knew that he was going to do this thing with Cindy Sweeney, but she was like, why are you. Oh, her? What did you say? Why? Don't embarrass me. Like, you've been with me for three years. Like, why would you embarrass me like this? Which I think is the big thing, right, Is like, you don't want to be embarrassed, but if it's just, like, a job, you know, I mean, they went and took it a step further where they're like, we're gonna do, like, a fake romance, basically.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, the gist of what she said is, like. Like, Ollie was asking was for him to, like, just denounce the rumors. And he wouldn't. And Glenn wouldn't, like, say, this is false because of, like, the will. Like, are they. Are. Aren't they together? Was, like, promoting the movie so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is crazy, when one's engaged and one has a girlfriend of three years, because it's like, the British. And we get it. They're both. They were, like, like, technically single as far as we knew, but we knew they had significant other, so it's a weird. Will they, won't they? Because it's like, I'm married.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

And, like, she was just like, want. She didn't want to feel disrespected with everyone, like, speculating, like, oh, is she okay with, like, her man, like, hooking up with Sydney? She was like, so when she was just saying, like, just say that this is. This isn't real and we can go on with it. But he, like, obviously prioritized the movie. But I kind of feel like at that point, is it almost like, he must not have been so in love with. I feel like if you're so in love with someone and they ask you that, you're like, yes, like, you are more important than this movie. Blah, blah, blah. But, right.

[Moses Hacmon]

But that's rare with actors like that. People like that. What, that their significant other is more important than their career and movies? Or if it's rock stars and they're.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, actors, know, like, Walton Goggin, shut it down. He's very much like, I like and with my wife. These rumors are dumb. These rumors are stupid. Like, the actors seem to shut it down. Maybe not rock stars, Tommy Lee or something like that. But I feel like the other ones.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know because usually we don't know about, like, I didn't like for me as a viewer, I had no idea that wanted a boyfriend, girlfriend, married. Like I don't know those things. So I just see. You just see what they tell you.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Glenn palace and he Sweeney. What did you see from that?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I'm just saying like I, I had no idea what their relationship status is. You know what I mean? So if they, somebody tells me they have a romance, I just believe that. But they, they have a real life. There's real people out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what the girlfriend's saying is like, why don't you just denounce it?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's wrong. And that girlfriend has a family and there's friends and it's embarrassing and it's. Everyone is asking you what's going on. And.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like almost like with Kath Jojo Siwa's ex partner too. Like because everyone runs to Cat's TikTok and leaves the comments. Everyone did that with Gigi. Everyone like ran to her her Instagram and left comments about like asking about Glenn and Sydney, you know. So like it does make you look foolish just to be like that part. To be standing by a partner and then everyone speculating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't like that, that, that, that'd be like, yeah, say something. If you don't say something. Especially when it's like so wild. And she told him to say something and he's like, work comes first. And she's like, that's what I know. Done. So if that's the case, like yeah, hell no. But if it's just like a scene and everyone knows you're like married and like whatever. Like I don't think, think again. I don't think it's an issue if it's me. If it's Moses. I think it's issue because I'm jealous. You know what I mean? Like I'm gonna be like what the hell? But again, I always said this. I stand by it but maybe because it may not happen. But I always just thought if he like had a role in a movie or something, I'd be like, I guess then day if it's like a big movie, I be, I guess, yeah, do a sexy.

[Moses Hacmon]

But her statement is very confusing and deceiving. I feel like cuz she's the one. You just read Gigi's no Scarlet Scarlett because she just said, said you can be loyal by the same time you can develop like really intimate. I'm like, no, you're talking about like that's not being loyal anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh wait, what did she say? She said you could develop intimate.

[Oscar Gracie]

What she said it's easy to create a lot of jealousy when a person not involved in the industry because actors by nature are very free spirited and they create very intimate relationships with people at work. They can be loyal to a partner and also very engaged in all these other kinds of relationships.

[Moses Hacmon]

So that's. That's just contradicts herself. She engages out of relationships free spirited. I'm like, you're in an open relationship and whatever work puts in front of you. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think my interpretation is it's. It would be easier for her say, like, it theoretically. Okay. If it was like, Scarlett Johansson and Glenn Powell. I feel like it'd be easier for her to understand, like, the PR optics of like, Glenn flirting with Sidney versus, like, Gigi, who's not like an actress.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because Scarlet kind of knows the game of, like, pr. I feel like that's kind of what she's saying.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right. But by the way, I read it, it's like she's okay. Like, the other person has to be also into open relationships. That's what I mean. Like, usually when two people are into open relationships, it's fine, but when only one, then it's a problem. I don't know if it's. Which is exactly what she's saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think it's an open relationship. I think it's like she's just saying you get close to people at work, which I kind of relate to. Not to bring back to me, but kind of like on tour. We watched Gemstones yesterday on season three, and she's like, she just got back from tour check. On tour we do this. And I feel like the very same. But it's true. Like, I feel like you get really close to people. Obviously everyone I'm with is queer on tour. Like, we're all like, whatever. You know, they're all gay men, whatever. But you get close to them. So you feel like you have, like a close relationship.

[Moses Hacmon]

So obviously it's friendship. That's a bond. She's talking. She said intimate. She's talking about intimacy. She's talking about intimacy. This is what we're all talking about.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it's like almost to relate it to like, a current press tour. Like the Materialist, this movie with Pedro Pascal, Dakota Johnson and. And Chris Evans. Like, Chris Evans is married, but him and Dakota Johnson are like, they're a. They're like a love triangle in. In the movie. And him, Dakota Johnson and Chris Evans are doing the press tour by themselves because Pedro's filming Avengers but they're, like, so, like, their chemistry is good together, and they're very, like, playful. They're very, like, they hug and stuff. So I think it's like, you as an actor, you have to understand that, like, you probably have a better understanding that, oh, this is, like, very pr. Like, you kind of have to have good chemistry to sell the movie, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

That doesn't mean I'm not, at the end of the day, not, like, loyal to my partner or wife. Husband, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Pen Badgley does it good. I feel like when he's promoting you, he's just like. I don't know. I know he's, like, very, like, whatever. But I think. I think he does it good. He doesn't seem flirty with any of his.

[Oscar Gracie]

But it's easier for him because he, like, the characters. Like, the. The show is like, it's. He's a serial killer, but versus, like, a rom com. Like, you have to have same with, like, anything, but you, like, it was a rom com. So you have to really sell that they could be a couple in order to, like, you know, promote the movie. So it is hard. Like, I could never do it either. Like, really not like a. Just because you. You people, like, ship them. So, like, hard even, like, how to Train your. There's so many things right now, but how to Train youn Dragon is also another one. And I had to research, like, write the questions and stuff for the interviews and, like, the fan, like. And it's young, a younger fan base, but they want. They want the two stars to date so bad. Nico Parker and Mason themes. And Mason has a girlfriend who's also an actress. She's. She's in the new Hunger Games movie. So I feel like maybe it's probably easier for her to understand because when Hunger Games comes out, they're gonna want her to date the guy who plays Haymitch, you know, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see. Yeah. So she'd be like, well, this is what we have to do for our job. I think it's like, again, just, like, not crossing. Crossing a line.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, get the boundaries. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The Glenn and Sydney one was pretty, like, hardcore. You know what I mean? They were pretty much like, yeah, because.

[Oscar Gracie]

Again, for, like, Mason Thames and Nico Parker promoting How to Train your dragon, they're very, like, clear. Like, when they asked about, like, oh, people ship your characters, they kind of laugh it off. They're like, yeah, like our character. Like, they make it about their characters, and it doesn't, like, interfere with, like, their actual personal. Yeah, you Know, So you do have to have, like, some kind of boundary.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should just. Everyone just promote movies. Like. Like, it did well in the box office is it ends with us just, like, complete opposite. Don't take pictures with each other.

[Oscar Gracie]

Kind of teased.

[Trisha Paytas]

No one knew what was happening. They're all like, why are there no pictures? And then, like. And still to this day, I mean. I mean, it's why we watched it. I was like, well, I'm gonna watch this movie. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Honestly. Yeah, that did work.

[Trisha Paytas]

So maybe they just gotta do it. Just never see each other.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then they can avoid all this. Honestly, kind of.

[Oscar Gracie]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Well, when I do a rom com, I'll let you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah, when you have the personal experience, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I just think. Yeah. I don't know. What do you think? Non industry over there.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think that it's up to the actor to give confidence to their partner. So I'm like, okay, you want to push it really far as far as pretending there's romance. You have to also push it really far, giving confidence to your partner. But it seems like Glenn was the opposite. It's like, no, that's work.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, I don't care what you like. That's work. So that's the opposite.

[Trisha Paytas]

It wasn't like Judy Gemstone, her husband.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. It's more like, okay, I'm gonna do this, but at the same time, I'm gonna propose to you. So you know I'm serious. You know, like, you do something serious. Like, you have to be.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Compensate on that. To give them the security because you're doing something that makes them feel insecure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I can never. If I was like, on Bridgerton the next season. I can never pretend to be in a romance because they know I'm so tied to Moses. So I think it's also just like, if they know you're tied to someone or not. It's like. Cause Sydney Sweeney's, like, person also is kind of private, so I think it doesn't.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was super private.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel like, like, Blake Lively and random rooms. She couldn't, like, pretend to be with her co star because, like, they obviously put them together. And it'd be weird because people like people together. So if I all of a sudden was just on a press tour with, like, the weekend and acting like we're dating, like, what about Moses? You know what I mean? Because they know us so well.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. But I guess that's kind of the industry thing, though, like, because it's like, if you're with another like very public person. It's a lot easier for people to like separate and know that like oh, Trisha and Moses are so in love. Like they would never do anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Versus like like Gigi was pretty private. Ish. Like she was gold carpets with it with Glenn. But Sidney's fiance wouldn't do much press with her at all. There was barely any events so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or like Timothy and Kylie. If he just started promoting like Love with his next co star, I'd be like, no, he's with Kylie.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Or like Zendaya and Tom Holland. Like when Zendaya is promoting challengers, like no one is worried about Tom Holland, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so true. She's like making out with them. They're all in this like three way.

[Oscar Gracie]

Thing and no one's questioning because everyone knows Tom Dea is like like the couple.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I guess Colin's right about that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Honestly, now that we talked it through, I'm like damn, she did. She clocked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Cuz like even her scene with like Bowen, I guess Colin was fine with it cuz he was in the scene, you remember the elevator scene. He's like you need to leave. And Colin's like, okay. And then they just make out. So. Yeah. Security in the relationship and within the self, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Mary. Yeah, I guess famous people should be with famous people. It is true. I mean I. Oh my God. When I dated like even Z list people, it is like they get so much attention. Even like people that are like literally like people from back in the day, they'll get so much attention. I can't imagine someone with like. Yeah, like a Glen Powell. It's like, well at the end of the day is like, yeah. How do you even compete? A lot of those stars do fall in love and if they're not like you said, if you're not truly in love with that person, which I feel like if he was truly in love with her, it wouldn't have been such an easy write off. You know, maybe there was a little out already. There just be like, well it's work.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And at the time too, I mean obviously Sydney and her fiance broke up but at the time he was okay with it because they were together for like a year. A year or longer after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well he was a producer on the movie, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's probably like anything for that movie. Anything to do good, you know. So I think that makes it easier.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love just talking about it now. That's so funny. So Random.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. Maybe she had to do some personal healing before she could. And she didn't name him in the interview, which I love. She just said my ex. But everyone knows who.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she did.

[Oscar Gracie]

She wouldn't say his name. She just said my exact.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, let me not get sued or anything like that. Okay, well, love it. I love that people were talking about it. Someone else was talking about this too. Like, intimate. Oh, I was telling you about Dakota.

[Oscar Gracie]

Is it Dakota Johnson?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. She was saying she's psyched up to do sex scenes. Did you see that with Amy Fuller? Like when you have to do a sex scene. She got him.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, that is what started her career.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so true.

[Oscar Gracie]

Shades of gray. And those were the. I guess. Were they that crazy? I guess they were pretty crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, I think for like a feature film.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just see a lot of nipples and. But it just. A lot. Everything was just sexual position after sexual position, which is crazy. She's like an EPO baby, too. She, like, didn't need to, but I guess you'd want to do that. You probably. That's kind of hot, actually. I should do that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And she was talking to Amy Poehler about, like, the intimacy. Working with the intimacy coordinator. How on the materialist or known for the. For the next Colleen Hoover movie. Yeah, ironically. Yeah, for the next Colleen Hoover movie. Like, for that intimacy coordinator in that movie. How the. Like, she was like, oh, do you want a Pilates ball in between you guys? So before, like, the thrusting, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what?

[Oscar Gracie]

For what? She Cuz for like the sex scene. So that way they're not like, actually thrusting on each other or like, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Know, that would be so awkward.

[Oscar Gracie]

There's a big ass ball between. She's like. But then we're so far away. I don't think she.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that? Community coordinator does not sound legit. Like, what the hell?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, maybe after it ends with us. So, like, let's keep it as as far as possible to be safe. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Colleen Hoover put out a weird video. Did you see her on Instagram? What was that like with the Diet Pepsi ice cube? She seemed a little out of it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, really old.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it is.

[Oscar Gracie]

Three months ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone's like, I couldn't. Well, first of all, not that old. You act like it was three years ago, but everyone was concerned about her. Everyone was in a concerned state.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I forget she issued a statement after that saying that everything. That she's fine. Yeah. I think I forget what she said because it was so long ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

That wasn't in our hot Topics three months ago. I didn't know. I know. I'm picking up now after tour finding everything.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, you're just your algorithms.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally. I'll look sometimes at the date because I'm like, oh my God. And I'm like, oh, it's like may. And I was like, why is this like coming up to me now? They'll put like stuff that's like old, but it's like something that's like relevant happening to the person, but it's like an old tick tock.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, you got the date. Yeah. Whenever I do that for like eti, we have like time, like years in the top corner, so it's like not as missing.

[Trisha Paytas]

How'd they get that? That?

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, I just put them in the corner.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

I have a graphic. Yeah, you do it. Yeah, I edited it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like scrolling. It's like there on TikTok. Oh, wow. That seems tedious. That's crazy. So you've marked the year.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Context too, because. Yeah. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so true. I know. Then you see something recent. You're like, oh.

[Oscar Gracie]

There was another couple that may news this week too is Billie Eilish and Nat Wolf. You know Nat Wolf?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, like the name.

[Oscar Gracie]

He was in a Nickelodeon show slash band called the Naked Brothers Band.

[Trisha Paytas]

Heard of it. Naked Brothers, but Nick Brothers.

[Oscar Gracie]

They were always clothed though. But I don't know where the Naked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Brothers come from but Dan Schneider show. Cause that sounds dubious. Like what? Why does Nickelodeon have all these like, questionable things? Because Naked Brothers, regardless. That just sounds like a very inappropriate band to go see.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm like, wait, I need a fact check. My. I'm like 99 sure. Because I remember that like that show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Naked Brothers Band. I'm right. Okay, now that you made me question. I guess I'm like, that does sound really cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why they're called Naked Brothers Band? Because that sounds weird.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. Why are they called Naked Brothers Band? The Naked Brothers Band got his name from an innocent childhood incident.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? An innocent child.

[Oscar Gracie]

An innocent child incident. Nat Alex Wolfe. The brothers came up with a name when they were very young, running around the house naked after a bath. And they called themselves a Naked Brothers Band.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's even worse because it's actually. It's actually based on children.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I get it. But also someone should have like checked that. I don't know if that's a great. Okay, well, what's Nat love doing? Who's he with?

[Oscar Gracie]

Billie Eilish. They were paparazzi making out in Italy. Yeah. And they've been friends for a long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

But it caused. There's two, I guess, layers of the controversy. There's one where kind of like what you were saying, like, because they are public people, there's a lot of Stans that, like, thought they could date. Like, Nat specifically, I've seen where people have been, like, really crashing out because they are upset that he's dating Billy because they thought they were just friends and they thought they had a chance with him. And then the other side, too, is that Billy had that single last year. I could eat that girl for lunch. And everyone thought she was, like, into girls. Yeah. But by, like, obviously, she probably just bisexual. She's dated men. She's been. Last year she was with women. So it's like. That caused a whole debate too, with, like, the by erasure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Which is pretty sad because. Yeah. She never had like, the JoJo moment of like, I'm lesbian. You know what I mean? She just said she's into girls, but her dating history has been guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it was a double whammy summer. Yeah. Summer of bi or queer. You know, just going for the men. And it's just, as I said last time, it's just. I think it's just disappointing as a whole, because decenter men means stop having sex with them. You know what I mean? Like, it's just. Just I, you know, do whoever you want to do. But I also just think. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. You know, you lose. You lose one.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I mean, for Billy, it makes like. I think it was more shocking for like a JoJo or like, Fletcher when there's so, like, their brand is lesbian. Like, you only know them as lesbian. And then they realize, actually, maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm back. Because usually, like, just stereo or typically, traditionally, like, the journey of. Of identity is like, you kind of question that you're heterosexual, and then maybe you're bisexual. Some people stay bisexual.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Then some people identify just as, you know, gay or lesbian.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they went. So they're like, went the backwards route.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are a little shook by it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think that is more sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like, it makes sense to be a little shook.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A little disappointed. Because if you're like, you're, oh, that's my lesbian hero. And then you were the guy, you're like, damn. You know what I mean? I don't. I don't know. Again, anyone can, you know, Chapel Rome could have a boyfriend. You know what I mean? But I think because it's like. Oh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like you just associate with that. Yeah. Your idea of them. At least there's not a lot of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, lesbian icons before this year or last year. Like, if you think about, like, Melissa Etheridge, Ellen, you know what I mean? There's no, like, lesbian icons, Rosie. Exactly. We have. We're in the era of, you know, the cutesy. Not that they weren't cutesy, but the girly pops. Being lesbian, you're like, oh, this is it. Renee raps all this stuff like that. So I think it's like. Like, yeah, you feel a little bit, which, you know, it's not right to feel that way, but it, you know, makes sense.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

People would feel that way.

[Oscar Gracie]

Billy, I feel like, makes more sense because she's kind of just said last year that, like, she at least alluded to being just being. Well, like, she's publicly dated men and she's was hooking up with girls and singing about girls and that just, like, gives, like, a bi or maybe pan or a queerness in general, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

So. But people were so mad at her for, like, oh, you singing about girls. I'm like, like, she never said she was any. Like, you know, she never identified.

[Trisha Paytas]

No one came for Katy Perry when she married two men. After I kissed a girl, I was like, wait, what happened? I thought you were kissing girls, you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And now they're just like, okay, yeah, she can be with Russell Brandon. Orlando.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Brown. Orlando Brown. Bloom.

[Oscar Gracie]

She would. Oh, is there an Orlando Brown?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Is he from. That's what, Raven.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Problematic, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm pretty sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, he talks a lot about. About all the conspiracies and he's pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, Orlando Brown. How do you know him? There's no way you know him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Before anyone talks about Didi, he was the first one of.

[Trisha Paytas]

The first from. That's so Raven, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That's crazy. Well, you might be right, but I'll fact check myself. Yeah. Ronald Sheridan from that's a Raven's in the hospital right now. He is looking for donations.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah, I did see that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Definitely.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. It was Orlando Brown. Okay. Yeah. Rondell, we love you. I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

He was a dad.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was the dad. He didn't know what was wrong with him. He thought it was just like gastritis. Is that a word? Yeah. Yeah. And then he said. Yeah. That he found out he's been in the hospital for A while. So it's so sad to see that, like, people just getting sick is, like, sad.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And then people not being able, especially, I feel like you. You would assume that, oh, you're on a show that was so successful, you must have so much money, and then it's not the reality.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the theme of this episode. Don't assume people have money.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because you know what, T. And it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes harder for those people because it's like. Or even like. Like whatever you think about this, right? Like, the times when I need money, it's like, you, yes, you can go work at a Cheesecake Factory bartending. But it's kind of like who got shamed for it? Was it like Gary Coleman or somebody used to work? I think it was him. He was working just like a regular security job. And people would, like, harass him because he was, like, on tv and they like film and, like, make fun of them. So it's like, it's hard sometimes when you're on TV to get a regular job, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Because people always be like, well, just go get a job. And then they get job, and then they get shamed for having a regular job.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah, it's happened a lot. There was another TV actor that did that too, who had a job.

[Oscar Gracie]

I remember at the Cheesecake Factory. I forgot who it was, but specifically it was the Cheesecake Factory.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So it's like, it's tough. And then, yeah, you. I mean, everyone runs out of money. Even like, super famous people. You think about people who, like, 1, 2. You're like, oh, they have so much money. But it's like, do they. I mean, people kind of just spend. I mean, allegedly. Justin B. Right. I don't know about his financial, but everyone says he, you know, needed the money, so he sold his catalog. But again, there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone needs money. That's what I never understood is when I did, oh, I, for something like, must need the money. It's like, obviously, like, what? Like, I do. I'm a human. I need money. I have to survive. Like, it's funny how people. People think that. So anyways, if we can find his, I'll donate to him too.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, I love him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Made me sad also. Just like, you know, being vulnerable and, like, being sick and open.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But people are very giving. That's what I've learned online. People love to donate and help other people, which is good. It's good karma. It's also just good but you get those points back around when you need it. Yeah, you're posting good donations. I just like, literally was like, everything Oscar was posting. Cuz you had the good ones. I was like, oh, these are good. Yeah. Like, it's so hard to find things in this world, like, what's legit, what's not.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's very overwhelming. Yeah, for sure. My friend Cassie, she's like, she's studying law and she wants to be like, immigration lawyer and stuff. So she's been like, like, very helpful in finding the resources and stuff. Yeah, she's very boots on the ground too.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I like. Yeah. Yours was like, legal and mental health. And I was like, I love this.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Follow Oscar on Instagram for all his intellectual posts.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, you are intellectual.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are that person and that's why I love you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You're like the brain cell. Yeah. You're like the other brain cell. There are two brain cells. If I had two brain cells, you're the other one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that the saying?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're two left brain cells. Yeah. Two brain cells left.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, someone who's not going to run out of money, I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love your transitions. That's so good. I love it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I took the Adderall right before this, so I feel like they're. They're really on it today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Mr. Beast did a new video where he spent up to a million dollars taking his fiance out on dates.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mr. Beast?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so weird you said that. I had a dream last night he lost all his money. That's so weird you said that. That is so weird. And I remember feeling really bad. I remember talking to Moses in my dream, being like, God, I hope we weren't, like, the cause of any of this. Like, because he had to, like, sell all his homes. He was, like, going bankrupt and, like, he owed, like, money, like, to the irs. Like, and I was just, oh, my God, I hope, like, we didn't, like, could contribute to this in any way. I was like, no, no. He, like, did this to himself. Like, he didn't, like, do the right accounting or whatever. I was like, okay. And I felt so bad. I felt so guilty. Like, I literally woke up being like, oh, my God, I feel so guilty. And I checked Twitter and I was like, okay, it's fine. That's so funny you just said that. Because I, like, took me a minute. I was like, wait a minute. Sorry, go ahead. He said he won't work. I hope he doesn't.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. That's Very ominous, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy. That's so weird. I had such a vivid dream about it, and it looked. It felt so real. I was like, checking social media. I was like, did he lose all his money? Don't wish it on Anyone, obviously.

[Oscar Gracie]

Even Mr. B's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not Mr. Beast. Yeah. Although it worked out for Schitt's Creek. You never watched that show. God, please watch Schitt's Creek. Please watch that show. You're so. You're so. What's his name? What's his name? Dan Levy. But what's his name on the show?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ew. David. David.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah. You have a room of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should know. I know. We really did love a Schitt's Creek back in the day. They lost all their money and they. But it worked out for them. They were happy in Schitt's Creek. Okay, sorry.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, he did a video spending a million dollars on taking his fiance out on a date.

[Trisha Paytas]

Date.

[Oscar Gracie]

He shut down Disneyland for $500,000 for one of his dates. He also. I don't know if he paid Madison Beer, but he had Madison Beer.

[Trisha Paytas]

You spent a million dollars on a date and you get. Love Madison Beer, but so random.

[Oscar Gracie]

I wonder if she did it for free or she had his. One of his, like, friends or a little, you know, beaster, like, co workers, host. I don't know. Whatever. His little friend, one of his little beasters. Like, that's his dream date, I guess. So he had Madison Beer come to the Disneyland date with his little beast buddy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Okay, love. I guess, like, I love Madison Beer's not shade to her. I was just like, kind of like, you know, rich people, they're just like, when they're so rich, they can just, like, buy a person. And maybe she didn't get paid. But also, it's just. It does feel a little weird to be like, I'm just so rich and famous. I can just get any dream girl you want.

[Oscar Gracie]

Can I buy your time to. To pretend to date money? It does feel a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess you would. Like when they go to, like, Dubai and India and perform at those weddings for, like, $8 million.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, yeah, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. Yeah. I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

And I guess for Madison, I feel like maybe it was more of a collab. Like, oh, look, a little, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love her, but she does collab with the wrong people. David Dobrik. Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

I forgot about David.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was in that final video with, like, Tana and the thing and, like, where they all were. And I just remember. And, like, obviously it was like, I don't blame them, but I remember in the moment being like, ew. Like, why are these girls hanging out with, like, these old. This old creepy guy and then this weird, like, vlogger? Like, it's so weird. Anyways, I have a little bit of PTSD from that, but I guess I shouldn't say that. That's so dramatic. I have a little bit of resentment. Yeah, resentment's good. Let me not take away that. But okay, so she's on the date.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

At Disneyland. Also shut down.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Shutting down Disneyland. $500,000. That was half the budget. And he took an entire trip through the park. And so that was like the big moment, like the big final date. He got Gordon Ramsay to cook a private meal for him and his fiance. And at Disneyland. No, this is separate. It was like separate dates, like, with a budget of a million dollars.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

You want to guess how much Gordon Ramsay was?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, he should be free. He's doing collab. He does jobs to collab with every influencer decorations. So I hope we did that for the exposure.

[Oscar Gracie]

But that was 10,000.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, not bad.

[Oscar Gracie]

Not bad. I feel like maybe that was like a. A Mr. Beast discount or something, though, right? Like, 10,000 for, like, a private meal and a hangout.

[Trisha Paytas]

One meal is crazy for two people.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I think it's more so like, you have a private. Like, you spend the day with Gordon Rams.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the whole day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Or like, I don't know, however long the meal was. A few hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sounds like an Airbnb package. Like, spend a day with Gordon Ramsay.

[Oscar Gracie]

It reminds me of, like, those, like, you know, when they would do, like, the auction. Auctions for charity. Whatever. It's like spend a day with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. What was that? It was like it started with an O. Is that the one you're thinking of? Because it would be like, experiences you can auction off.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. It was like a whole website.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Jonathan Bailey, I feel like, did one anything, I think last year, two years ago, where you gotta fly to, like, hang out with him in London or go to the premiere. A week premiere with him. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pay money or did. It was like a raffle.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was like a raffle. You donated. It went to a car.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I remember. Those are the ones I'm talking about that we would donate because Hamilton did it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would pay. I would pay $10,000 to hang out Jonathan Bailey, honestly.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

More, though. He's probably more than.

[Oscar Gracie]

Probably more. Yeah. But I feel like it would kind of be a good investment. Because then he'd probably come on the podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Just that, like, rich people who just pay people to hang out with them. Like, okay, maybe Jonathan Bailey. 10,005. Way more now, but I think he might be. Who would you pay to hang out with?

[Oscar Gracie]

Pay to hang out with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Weird.

[Oscar Gracie]

Gosh. Who would I pay to hang out? It wouldn't be someone that I like, Stan. Because I'd be too embarrassed, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's what it is. I think I actually wouldn't like, oh, my God. Paying money. I don't want to be here.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm just. 10,000. I feel like I could hang out with Ted Nivison for free. So I shouldn't say him.

[Trisha Paytas]

10,000 for Ted's crazy. The fact that you even thought about that is why?

[Oscar Gracie]

Because I wouldn't want to do, like. I definitely wanted to do, like, an artist, because I'd be way too embarrassed. Like, imagine me spending 10,000 Chapel Rowan. I'd be so embarrassed, you know, I'd feel ashamed, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

If it's, like, for charity, it's.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's true. If they did it, it was like, hey, hang out with me for this. Then that's something. And I had that much money then. Yeah. But I would probably feel more comfortable with, like, an influencer, I think. Like, really? I think so. That would make more sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

$10,000 for an influencer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, maybe not 10, but, like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have $10,000 to spare. Like, it can't go anywhere else. A charity to nothing. To your family. Nothing. You have 10,000 you have to spend on a celebrity.

[Oscar Gracie]

Celebrity. Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's gonna go to charity. But it could be influencer, I guess you're like, I want Addison over anybody. Like, okay, work.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that is so hard. Is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like you have so many stands, like Olivia Rodrigo.

[Oscar Gracie]

I would. Because with them, I would want it to be more organic. Even the cat side wants to be, like, organic. Like, like, I'm interviewing them or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Maybe like, Rachel Zegler. Because she would. Because she would be, like, cool about it because she loves, like, charity and stuff. So I feel like. And she's, like, a girl's girl, you know? So, like, I feel like she would. Wouldn't be awesome.

[Trisha Paytas]

So true.

[Oscar Gracie]

It'd be more of, like, a key.

[Trisha Paytas]

She did my show for free. For charity. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like she'd be about, like, you know, versus, like, why did you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Miss her at the show? Like, didn't you guys go downstairs?

[Oscar Gracie]

But we came Literally right after. I guess right after she left. Like, she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just because you saw Ben Platt leaving?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes, because Ben Platt was, like, a foot half out the door, but was stopping to talk to.

[Trisha Paytas]

How come it took you so long to get down there?

[Oscar Gracie]

We just didn't know. Like, they came, they found us. Oh, me and Nicole were in the Broadway show, and then some people were coming up to us in the audience. And then I told them to grab.

[Trisha Paytas]

You, like, right away, because I was just like. Like, I was telling you. I was like, Rachel's so nice. Like, literally the nicest person.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just. I must have just missed her, because.

[Trisha Paytas]

I even told her. I remember rehearsal. I was just like, oh, my God, me and Oscar love you. Like, I just was, like, saying, like, we loved you. And so. And she's like, the night. Like, I'm telling you. Of all the, like, celebrities. I use that in quotes, I guess. Whatever. But, like, she is the nicest. Like, overly nice. Just, like, so sweet. So nice. That's so crazy. Now you're paying 10,000. Well, we'll donate to charity.

[Oscar Gracie]

She comes on the podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

We can donate 10,000 to the charity of her choice. Choice. Because she is charitable.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she is nice. And probably. If I just asked her, she probably would just come on, but. Well, she's in Navita now in London, but. Oh, I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I feel cool with her. But, yeah, like, anyone else would be a little too nervous for. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I get real weirdly nervous around celebrities, too. I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because even trying to think of, like, an act, like an actor that I love right now, like, Pedro Pascal, I'd be too scared, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really. He seems so nice and chill.

[Oscar Gracie]

He does seem really nice and chill. But just the thought of, like, actually, he would be cool with it. He would. He. I feel like he's similar to Rachel, where he would be very down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, especially if you're driving to trans life or something like a charity. He, like. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So maybe. Maybe a Pedro.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they probably think about it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And he'd be cool. He seems fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like Cynthia Revo would be, like, excited.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? And do it for charity. Because she's always down to sing, which is what I love about her. I think we talked about this last time, too. She does, like, this random pot. Like, maybe it's not random, but I'd never seen it before. Like, a podcast. And Guy was talking about the riff. He. I love it because we won't Ask you to do it. And then she just goes, she just did it. And I was like, I love that she's just down to sing all the time with everybody and everything. So I think she'd be a fun one. I think if I were to pay 10,000, it'd be Cynthia or Ariana, because they're both wicked.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah. And I feel like Ariana similarly. I. I think I'm just more intimidated by, like, artists for some reason, because, I don't know, musicians are so different. And even though Ariana is one, she's kind of in her acting like, yes. Just princess of the people bag right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's so genuine when she talks to fans and stuff like that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She's another one that does, like, ran. Not random, but, like, just smaller. It's not like she's doing, like, she does do the Tonight show, but then she does smaller, like, you know, niche, like, Wicked or, you know, podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

She did the. The one I was on, Sentimental man podcast.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what it's called. Yeah. And both Cynthia and Ariana did that podcast. And yeah, it's not like, little, but it's like, you know, it's a. It's a niche one. It's like a Wicked podcast. And they had me on as a guest, like, and literally right before me was Cynthia and Ariana. So I was like, all right, like, work. I'll do it. But yeah, I love when they do stuff like that.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's very cute. Yeah. So I think she. It wouldn't be as intimidating with, like, an Ari versus, like, like Sabrina Carpenter or something. I'd be more intimidated by Sabrina and ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we got so sidetracked. So I love it, though. I love that. I love conversations like that.

[Oscar Gracie]

So, yeah, he did Gordon Ramsay. A dinner by Gordon Ramsay for 10,000. He rented a private island for 50,000 and another entire theme park for 100K. And then he spent. Oh, here's where Madison Beer is. He spent 250k setting up his friend Nolan with Madison Beer, renting out a Lambo and securing private seats at a MLB game to try to get a second date with her. And then they went to Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. First of all, the added to try to get a second date with her is gross. Like, she's doing this to be nice or get exposure. Also, I think we should always red flag people who want a private island. Like, why. Why are we all getting private islands?

[Oscar Gracie]

Why does he give them away at beach games?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that sounds. I hate that. I hate that anything private Islands.

[Oscar Gracie]

You're right. Anyone who's, like, whose wish list is a private island, like, why. Why do you need a private. What are you doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

There's plenty of, like, privacy at Four Seasons. Like, why do you need to be by yourself on an island? I don't like that at all.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't either. You're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't like any of this because once again, the times we're living in, I just think it's so tacky. Do we want to watch people spending money on, like, their date? You know what? Just their personal life. It's, like, nice if you help people out, whatever. Like, even the water wells, it's like, yeah, I know there's controversy, but at least you're kind. You're helping. You're giving water wells. If there's some hidden agenda behind it, whatever. This one's just like, let's just spend $500,000 on Disneyland when we could just literally go VIP for 6,000. And it's like, what? And people are, like, like, literally starving, literally losing homes, literally. There's like, no. Like, our economy sucks. Like, I'm just like, this is so weird and, like, out of touch. Like, why is he doing this?

[Oscar Gracie]

For a video for content, baby. Content. I know. It is crazy. He has clocked it before because he. To kind. I guess to his credit, because he'll be. He posted, like, the analytics from his, like, charity videos versus, like, his videos like this. And he's like, look at the difference in views. Like, people only people care more about this stuff than when I do charity stuff. Blah, blah. And he's been very, like, adamant about, like, his charity work being, like, authentic. I think he's trying to sue people who are saying, like, otherwise, because I guess he has the receipts to, like, really back up that he is, you know, being charitable, which is good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

But then, yeah, I guess the. His point there, like, it does suck that, like, people are. Or his fan base is more into these, like, very big, elaborate videos versus building wells. I don't know. Does that speak more to the consumer than.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's like, these young boys that are, like, will grow up to be, like, hating themselves or hating women and calling women gold diggers because, like, all you care about is money. Because they're watching this guy just, like, flaunt his money. Like, I don't think, like, are you watching it, Mr.

[Oscar Gracie]

Bees?

[Trisha Paytas]

This video? Yeah. It doesn't appeal to me. And I love lavish. Like, I do love the Kardashians and stuff like that, but even that Feels out of touch when we watch it. Sometimes I'm kind of like, this kind of makes me feel bad about myself. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I like it to an extent, but then it kind of makes you feel a little bit bad about yourself. And I just think in, like, again, 2025 is just, like, not the state of the world we're living in. Even myself, like, just, like, buying things and. You know who. Ed Sheeran. I just, like, love him. He just said he doesn't fly on private jets. And he's like, if I have to. If I have to, like, whatever. But he says he's taken, like, like, London air. You know what I mean? He'll go on, like, a flight. He said he was coming out of Germany and all his fans were on the same flight with him. And he's like, it's just, you know, it's better for the environment. I love that. You know what I mean? I just think, yeah, because we don't need private jets and we don't need to buy out Disney. I don't know. I just think there's so much better that you can do. And again, he's charitable. I get it. But it's like, I don't know. Flaunting, it is gross, right? If you did it privately, I'd be like, whatever, I guess. But just showing everybody, like, how rich you are and how they're not.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When people are, like, hungry. I don't know. I'm. You guys know me. I have a. My ad or my algorithm on Tick Tock is. I don't know what it is. You remember those old commercials back in the day? It was like, Sarah McLachlan singing and all the hungry children. That's like, when mine is out, but not like, those videos, but, like, the new ones. And it's just like, donating to kids that are, like, hungry. And that makes me sad because it's, like, real. I know. I was like, joke about it, but it's like, it's actually a real thing. And it's just like, God, it's like, I don't know. Flaunting wealth seems. Seemed gross. But not just like, dog pal, Mr. Beast. Sounds like a fun experience, but I don't know. I don't know if we need to see all that. Like, these games I can appreciate. Okay, you're employing people. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

Good point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, okay, there. That's how I was just writing my music videos. I'm like, I'm employing, like, 100 people. You know what I mean? Like that's stimulating something but this feels like. I just think it's weird. I don't know. And what he say about. He's just like here it is. What's it called?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's like look at the exact title. But the gist was spending taking my fiance dates from ranging from like $1 to a million dollars. But let me get the exact title.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate him.

[Oscar Gracie]

$1 versus $500,000 romantic date.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what are the comments?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's see like if you like, love this. More of this content, you know, Love.

[Oscar Gracie]

Seeing you both from Gordon Ramsay. Finally a video where you spend on yourself.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, people are loving it. They're into it.

[Oscar Gracie]

This is the Most I've seen Mr. Beast smile a lot. He truly loves her. Love seeing Nolan happy. I guess that's the Madison beer one. Oh, seeing Nolan being happy and not bullied in a video. Honestly, so heartwarming. Love seeing Nolan happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Expectations are low for this one. Oh, he's not getting bullied. Yay. Like, this is great.

[Oscar Gracie]

Best part is the appointment. The luxury restaurant is so beautiful and the. The snow is romantic. If Madison and Nolan start dating, I'll believe in love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my. These kids are like 12. For real. Oh my God. That's crazy. Okay, well sure, I'm not trying to knock it, but for me personally, that's a no. I mean he did. Oh God, they make peanut butter cups now. Feastables. I almost got one at the airport. They looked so freaking good. I was like, no, Trish, don't. I don't hate this guy. I don't hate him. I just like hate everything he does.

[Oscar Gracie]

Except the chocolate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the chocolate.

[Oscar Gracie]

The chocolate slaps him.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to try the peanut butter cup, cuz those are my favorite. And I love his peanut butter and his chocolate. But I think you get to spend the money on yourself. But you don't need to like show it off to the world. Just like it gives David Dobrik too. I just remember you to spend so much money just to like show how much money.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I think David was trying to heat up Mr. Beast nachos. I think Mr. Beast was the first. First. Yeah, really do. But just on a completely different side of the Internet. I didn't really discover Mr. Beast until maybe like two years ago, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I didn't know either. I thought he just like blew up recently.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, but he's been around, so. And he's always been really popular, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don'T care for him, but good for you. If you did. But go outside. If you watch a M. Video, go outside in the sun. Talk to girls while you're young. Realize that it's not all about money and what you spend on them. They don't care. Oh, my God. I worry. My God. That's my biggest fear in life. My. Our son is like, I love Mr. Beast. Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because sometimes we talk about this on the YouTube app, even the kids app. Sometimes these, like, videos slide through. Like. Like the Mr. Beast or something. Sometimes there's, like, this, like, little mean girl on there that slides through, and I'm like, we have the kids app. We have, like, all these things blocked, and she still, like, slips in there. And I was like, what if Mr. Beast just, like, slides in there one day?

[Oscar Gracie]

Scary.

[Moses Hacmon]

Even if you turn the TV on, like, the YouTube app, the first thing that always. There's always a thumbnail. There's always a Mr. Beast video up there, like, from the TV. Like, the TV puts it up there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I'm terrified. That's so scary. I hope he retires by the time baby three is starting to watch YouTube.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, it's probably going to be too old and cringy for our baby by that time. There'll be a new.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, don't say that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Baby Beast.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Baby Beast sounds terrifying. Absolutely not. Honestly. Do you honestly, like David, like, Mr. Beast? There's enough content creators to go around. I don't want to start nobody. I'm in my healing era. I mean, my Moses can have his fake labubu. You can have your matching labubu. Jimmy has no laboos.

[Oscar Gracie]

He sells his rainbow one at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so which one was taken? I thought the rainbow one was.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, big one.

[Oscar Gracie]

The big one. Yeah. He bought a big one on. So on the boo boo day, we're both trying to get the big one. He succeeded. And, yeah, it was a giant box, too. So someone literally ran out with a.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's no cameras in this place.

[Oscar Gracie]

He said not in the hallway. He. He inquired, so. Oh, in the hallway. Yeah. So we're gonna do a sting operation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

He needs to install a ring camera on his door.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I'm hoping the bait works. We'll keep you guys posted on. On the sting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need to know. I need another update. Also, no. Hate to Mr. Beast. Like, literally, don't sue me. Don't come for me. He's fine.

[Oscar Gracie]

Even you go do one of his little challenges. The.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Absolutely not. Nothing in the world could you know, I always wondered, too, when I was at the airport. You know me, I'm horrible at recognizing people. Like, I thought I saw Benson Boone on my flight. I swear I saw Mr. Beast. But I'm like, I wonder. He probably doesn't fly commercial. I like, I did. Thought I saw Mr. Beast. But you think he does? But I don't think it was him. He probably would have gotten swarmed if it was. It looked like him a lot. That.

[Oscar Gracie]

Would he have gone swarmed?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why. I don't know. Would you recognize him? I don't know if I would.

[Moses Hacmon]

His demographic is the worst. You know, it's that age that they're just like. You remember, like, when we were in Hawaii, there was like. There's a certain age, you would say, like, 12 to 16 or 10 to 16. Like, when they have. No. They don't know what you're not supposed to do, so they just, like, shout your name, scream, chase you, walk after you. And that's his audience. His audience is really young. Young.

[Oscar Gracie]

He just looks like every other.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does. He just looks like a person.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know if I'd actually recognize it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know if I would either. I guess, if he smiled because his thumbnails always like the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, can you do your thumbnail for me?

[Oscar Gracie]

Can you smile soullessly for a minute? Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I asked him to flip. I was like, okay, but just for.

[Moses Hacmon]

Fun, Jimmy, insert the picture of Mr. Beast in his. Who they are.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, we never talked about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we talked about Patreon.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. You do like Hood Beast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You look good. Honestly, that was a vibe.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think he just. When Mr. Beast is hood Beast, he kind of just looks like you when you do. When you're a drag king. Oh, yeah. So I. I thought about it. It sat with me for a while. Because you're really into Hood Beast.

[Trisha Paytas]

That. I did like him. Yeah. He should just like that all the time. I liked his bronzer. I liked everything he is.

[Oscar Gracie]

Be. The face is B. Yeah. It's contour. The bronzer is there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was liking it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And he does look like. Like almost like you and Zac Efron or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Maybe I should do a Hood Beast cosplay. I changed my mind. I don't like Mr. Beast. But what was he doing that for? Just for fun.

[Oscar Gracie]

For memes? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. Okay. Mr. Beast. I love that. Doing it all for the memes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I missed a Dakota Johnson segue earlier. I'm gonna beat myself up. About it, but she did the Vanity Fair live detector test, and for some reason, she got asked about, like, Alex Earl, and it was like, the most me thing I think I've ever seen. It made me, like, really stand. Dakota Johnson. I'll just play it for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Since you claimed. I love that. Let's test if you know these online people. Is that a person on that. On a TV show? Oh, is it Call Her Daddy? No. Do you know who this is? Are they not the same person? Yeah, it's Call Her Daddy. Alex Cooper. This is. This is. Okay. Okay. Who's this? See, that's close. That's Alex Earl, Al. They're both named Alex. And what do they. They both do podcasts. Are they friends? I don't know. I don't. Are they enemies? I don't know. Is there beef? Could be. Oh, about their podcast. Do they talk about. She knows what's going on. Should I be friends with them? If you would like to be. They look like nice people. Am I lying? Oh, the wires are crossed. It's because it's picking up me internally. Is the interviewer AI? I don't know. Could be.

[Oscar Gracie]

It kind of gives me, like, Shane, like, spooky voice vibes. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like they play into that, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. She kind of clocked it, though. She's kind of new. She gets their beef about their podcast. Like, she kind of knew. They do look so similar.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, they do.

[Trisha Paytas]

There is that look, which I think is, like the most. It's such a beautiful girl look. Like. That's what I wish I would have looked like. But, like, there's so many people who look like that. You know what I mean? So I. I feel her. I mean, how would you know Alex girl? Unless you're a social media. I don't think. You know, not to say she's not mainstream. She's like, one of the biggest. But I don't think. Yeah, like, actors don't know tiktokers. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know. I think a lot of people don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Know because Al is huge. But, I mean, if I were to even ask, like, my brother, I'm sure he wouldn't know who that is.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I mean, Jimmy, I have. We asked Jimmy. I feel like. Did he not know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he not know?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think so, because I noticed in, like. I think he learned recently, like, this year, but before, he always. He would always mix them up in the. In the time codes. Like, he would Spell like Alex Earl with the E, not the Ah. Yeah. So I think he thought they were the same. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When he was here too. When he was, like, co hosting Human.

[Oscar Gracie]

I just learned Mr. Remy Ashton was just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that's crazy. There is only one Ms. Remy Ashton, and she is unique in a star. Theories have said that she got married on the weekend because she's been kind of quiet. People think she's already been married. Oh, geez, I want to see her dress. Yeah. Mr. Reaction. But what do you think? Or you thought her name was like, Miss.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, he thought it was two people. Miss Remy and then Ashton, I think. Yeah. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God, I love that. But yeah, that's the thing. If you're not, like, on that side, it's like, who are these people?

[Oscar Gracie]

I would have done anything if they showed Dakota Johnson a photo of you and Alex Cooper. And what if she was like, aren't these the same person?

[Trisha Paytas]

I do not think she would have said that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I would have died. I would have loved.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have loved that too. Oh, my God. No, that's the most cringey thing is if anyone. Anyone, even on red carpets back in the day, I think people had somebody who was like a fan who would, like, ask questions, people about me, and I'd be like, oh, my God. Probably like, what the hell is this? Like, it would be so. No, I cringe because I. Again, if you're not on the Internet, like, I think you're on the Internet. Yes. You probably know who I am. If you're not on the Internet, there's like, no way. Like, you know what I mean? There's just no way, you know? And if you do, it's always like, wow, I can't believe you know me. That's so crazy because people just aren't online like that. If you're not on Tick Tock, you don't get it, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I don't think. I feel like Dakota Johnson is very much, much living her life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She does not care.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She didn't call her daddy, though. Was she on Call her Daddy?

[Oscar Gracie]

Did she do call her daddy?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like I've seen her on there, but maybe not.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's doing some podcasts. I don't think she. I don't. As far as I know yet, she hasn't done. Yeah, Call of Daddy. She's doing hot ones, I think tomorrow.

[Trisha Paytas]

All the Emmy nominated ones coming up. What are the Emmy nominations?

[Oscar Gracie]

July 15th.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are we getting one? Are we submitted?

[Oscar Gracie]

How do we Submit. We never did a four year consideration campaign. People are doing it now. Mike White. White. The White Lotus FYC event was I think yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's fyc?

[Oscar Gracie]

For your consideration.

[Trisha Paytas]

They have to do it for White Lotus.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. He had a. They did a little event with like the television academy and Mike White sent a video from Survivor saying like, make sure you vote for.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like he's not really on Survivor because how come he can do that and no one else can get food? He's like, that's something's fishy about that. I don't know about that. Okay. He was on the island. He's like, I gotta get our show in though. Why do you have to do for your consideration?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like if you do campaigns to. I mean, almost like a political campaign, I guess you gotta like let people see how great your thing is. They get pretty expensive. Like for the Oscars. Like Anora's budget to win the like for the Oscar campaign was more than to make the movie. So wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who spends this money? Who's doing it and why?

[Oscar Gracie]

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[Moses Hacmon]

That.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's dedication. Find out [e-mail] brought to you by the U.S. department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. Just for the.

[Trisha Paytas]

The recognition of so all the nominees. So when the podcast nominees come out, it's like they did a four year consideration.

[Oscar Gracie]

You typically. I mean for the Emmys. Yeah, for the streaming. I don't think anyone's really doing a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was there a podcast fyc.

[Oscar Gracie]

I haven't seen them, but maybe because they're all very like industry, like it's just The Academy that gets the, like the PR or the events, but you can kind of see billboards. Like, whenever there was like a move, a studio, there's always billboards around, like, for your consideration, whatever, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So who would be a puppy? Like Jay Shetty, Alex Cooper, Hot ones.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm rooting for Las Culturistas. Oh, Chicken Shop date. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lost Culture. We just had it. Yeah, they had a big.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, there's a last called Teresa's Award Show. Are you going to be invited? I think it's soon. It's gonna be on Peacock. It's like. Yes, it's a whole thing. It's in la.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean? What is the award show? No, it's the law school.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's the first annual.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Where? Where? I need to know. I want to come.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's at the Orpheum Theater. Oh, it's on Bravo. Wait, it's a televised award show? Yeah, sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

I wonder what. I don't know. When it airs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, I want to go.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's. It hasn't happened yet for sure because they kind of just announced ticket sales for it. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, like, what's the awards?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, July 17th. That's dangerously close.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's dangerously close to what I'm about to get first.

[Oscar Gracie]

This.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll be Mike White. I'll put a video in from the hospital accepting my award or presenting. I will. Don't even try it. We have our ph. Oh, my God. What's the nominations? Who's nominated? What's the awards?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's just the last culture. Reese's Culture Awards. They just announced tickets. I don't think they've announced, like, the categories or.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, cat, you can't vote yet.

[Oscar Gracie]

Not yet, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think we'll be nominated for something?

[Oscar Gracie]

I would hope so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe not.

[Oscar Gracie]

SNL Cameo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that would for sure. Because who else had the SNL cameos? No one else. Who else did this year?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I mean, people have obviously hosted and stuff, but who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Adam Sandler.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like yours was still the most. It made the most noise, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think so, too. Put me in that category.

[Oscar Gracie]

100 unique award categories, live musical performance performances, and a series of celebrity guests.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I would have loved to live perform there. That's so. Oh, man, that would have been so fun. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, wait, wait. Oh, okay, okay. It tapes July 17, but it airs August 5.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

Damn. Because even the baby could have gone on August 5th. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have Brought the baby with. Oh, my God. That's so sad. Well, you can. You are. You are Mr. Going Out Now. You're doing the these. No, you're. You're just. You're going to do all these things, so you'll be well versed. You and Vanilla Maze can present together after this. He's so cute. I love that. Damn. Oh, I feel like we could have actually had a shot going to this. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, fully.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fully. I probably would even deep DM to ask, like, how can I be a part of this, even it's presenting or something. Damn, damn, damn, damn.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think they're definitely. She went to at least be nominated for the Emmy, though, especially after this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think that's if it's on Bravo and stuff.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were on overcompensating.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes, they were. Whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was gagged. I didn't know. I love surprises like that when you don't know what's happening. I guess that's why people don't like spoilers. But I got excited. I was like, oh, my God. Because it started off with Matt around it, and I was like, oh, I love him. And then, then Bowen came. I was like, love, love this song. It was so good. Oh, man. Damn it. That would have been the event of the year for sure.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. Missing the Tonys and the Las Cocha Risas Culture Awards.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

And you missed the Grammys and the awesome.

[Trisha Paytas]

We got it. No more tours on a Sunday. That's what I have learned. Oh, my gosh. But watch now. I'll keep my schedule open. And then, like, nothing will happen. It's always when you're busy. It's always when you're busy. Everyone's like, oh, you could have come to this, this, and this. I was like, where were these? For the past 18 years of me.

[Oscar Gracie]

Doing social media, nothing to do with my luck.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never had this amount of opportunity.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was in my apartment, though, for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Five years without kids, without a husband. I was just sitting there waiting for an invite to anything. And now it's like, so much. Which is great. We love abundance, but also. Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, speaking of podcast, Bella Hadid, on the chicken shop date, she talked about how she has never been ghosted and people were really upset that she said, because a lot of people were like, she's definitely been ghosted, but just doesn't. Doesn't realize that she's been ghosted. Because men, even if you're Bella Hadid, I mean, as we've Seen men cheat on beautiful women, you know, left and right.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I feel like the beautiful woman are the ones to get cheated on all the time. Like it's like a weird. Someone said that I. I was watching all these like analysis of like the pretty women getting cheated on and they said it's like a power thing for the men. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

That it's like show that like, yeah. Like, yeah, you're gorgeous, but I can get.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Which is like the girl wizard. Liz, that was like a big thing. Is that like they said he studied her because she was on such a. Like, like, what is it called? Like a high worth woman. Meaning like don't have sex on the first date. She was definitely like, she was above everything. So the fact that he got her with it all within like a few months. Got her, got her pregnant. Cheated on her while pregnant. Somewhat, like somewhat trapped her, I guess you could say. Because like whatever. Like they do it humiliation. They do it like as a power thing to be like, look what I did. I did this. I was able to break her. I was able to do this like all that kind of stuff. Stuff. So that kind of makes sense in. In ways, I guess. I mean, it's like so effed up. But anyways, yeah. Someone like Bella Hadida could. It could happen too. I get it though. Like, but I don't think everyone's been ghosted. I don't think that's like a crazy thing. Right. Do you think everyone's been ghosted?

[Oscar Gracie]

I. I only really know. Like, I feel like probably. Right. Like that's even. Maybe you didn't like fully notice or like, like fully acknowledge it. But you know, I feel like maybe something has died off.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like ghost. Oh, okay. Well, is that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess there's levels of it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz something just dies off. Especially now with like dating apps and stuff. I guess it's easy to just like, oh my God. Yeah. Whoa.

[Oscar Gracie]

That was like a. Again, PTSD the wrong way. A trigger. I guess that just brought me back. I remember like February. It was before I met Darian, obviously before I met Darian, when I was like, I'm done with men. It was like either January or February where like I matched with someone on Hinge or Tinder and he was. I remember being like. And we like were talking and it was so like good right off the bat. But we hadn't even met in person yet. But it was like. So I was like, wow, this is it. He was like. He worked at Twitch, but he was also like a gamer. He Was like. Like, just, like, attractive, had glasses. I was like, oh, this is. This is my man, My man. And then, like, literally, granted, again, I was not so. And we were talking, like, two days, but. And then just ghosting me before, like, as we were getting ready, writing to me, I was like. And that was when I was like, I'm done. I'm deleted the app.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you never even met.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, but with dating with, like, the apps, it's so easy to. Yes, to ghost and get ghosted.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I love ghosting people. Like, that's my face.

[Oscar Gracie]

My gag is I do too. But then it happens to me and I hate it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's nicer. I. I don't mind it. I think both ways. I don't mind it. I'd rather someone just, like, ignore me than tell me, like, dating wise, oh, you're too this, you're too fat, you're too this. Or, like, if I'm asking someone for a podcast to be like, I just don't want to do it. You know what I mean? Like. Like, I'd rather that. Because I think when we got that hard, definitive, like, no. From Brittany Broski, like, a long time ago from her team, it was kind of like, oh, oh, painful. As opposed to if you just don't hear anything back, it's like, I think that's better. I think it's better. I don't know. That's just me personally.

[Oscar Gracie]

For me, I'm like, it's. You're damned either way with me. Because if he ghost me, I piss if you say no. Depending on how invested I am. Obviously, like, sometimes no is understanding, but if it's like a. It doesn't make sense to me now I'm like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no, I'm not accepting that. I can imagine Bella do not being ghosted because she is like, like, famous. And maybe she's just like, not on apps like that. You know what I mean? True, there's probably less people she's interacting with, her circle smaller.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I mean, this was just like a rumor was. It was from, like, US Weekly too. So, like, it was very gossipy, tabloidy. But then, because I was trying to see, I was like, who else she maybe date that she could have got ghost. But there was an article that's saying that, like, after the weekend, like, I think she dated the weekend first, and the weekend went with Selena, and then she was kind of having a thing with Drake again. This is Us Weekly. Take it with a grain of salt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then she was like, Getting into him. And then Drake ghosted her. I could see someone. Like. Like, if she went with someone that famous, especially this was like 2017, so pre. I think she's gone exponentially more famous. Like 2019 up. But maybe, like, back then, I could kind of see him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe she doesn't know what ghosting means, honestly. Do you know what I mean? Because sometimes I'd be like that too. Like, I don't know. And then like, no, that never happened to me. And like, this is what it is.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, oh, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, being ghosted. Like, no, I've never seen a ghost.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you been ghosted?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't. I'm one of those people that wouldn't think that I was. You know what I mean? Like, I would think, like, oh, they probably lost their phone or they probably had an emergency or, wait, but has.

[Trisha Paytas]

That happened to you where you just, like, stopped hearing from somebody?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know. I can't remember. No, but I don't think so. I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like you with the cruising.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know what that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

I still don't know what the cruising is, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. I guess probably everyone's been ghosted at some extent. Some level. Like, it could be. Yeah, yeah. She might not just understand what it is, which I get. She's like, I don't know what the hell that is, but I love the questions. I love the chicken shop date questions that she asks people. It's so funny.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I really wish chicken shop date was longer, though. It's always like eight minutes. I'm like, wait, really? It's always is so short.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't eat chicken in that amount of time.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, that doesn't seem like probably the guy. I don't know if some Jennifer Lawrence eating that much chicken. I don't know. I feel like, you know, almost like the Kardashians when they eat. It's like a little bit. That's just what I assume again, just me assuming. But it's also like, it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm like, on one end, it is kind of like a press thing. And like the press things, you really only get like 10 minutes usually, traditionally. But then I'm like a Call her daddy. You get like 45 minutes. So right now you would think chicken shop date, that would go a little longer. But I guess the point is it is like a small little date. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just would think at least 20 minutes, 30 minutes. Like, is that even a podcast?

[Oscar Gracie]

Does she series? I don't know if she gets sponsored. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

And there's a lot of like editing in between two, like they cut like in between questions. They cut to like the chicken being fried, you know, And I'm like, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It'S only really like six minutes of interview. That is odd that. So did it always. Was it always that?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think some are long. Let me see. I think maybe some are longer. But like, I thought the whole point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of like mukbangs and stuff and mukbangs and talking were like a 30 minute, you know, like a 30 minute art. We have a guest coming up this Saturday and it's the first request we have for a mukbang interview.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow, that's tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know we gotta get their order, but I'm very excited about it. They requested to do a little mukbang.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, they're all eight minutes. Even like Alex Khonsani is eight minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. Like, is it even worth going for that? Could you imagine? You sit down and you get into the interview and you're like, that's it, that's what I came here.

[Oscar Gracie]

Six minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? And they had the frying chicken in that one too.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's only four minute interview, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

They probably film for like 20 and cut it down.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should put the whole 20.

[Moses Hacmon]

They. You know how some people have a formula? Like they figure that's the number that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Works that people like.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, well, yeah, everything else, everything is pretty much eight minutes. I guess eight minutes is the goal time for them.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is it on YouTube?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz any video under eight minutes, you can't monetize.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought it was 10. I think it had to be 10 minutes.

[Oscar Gracie]

They lowered it. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So they probably were like at the threshold of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I never really watch it. I should watch it. I need to. I see clips. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I usually. Whenever there's someone. Yeah, Amelia's so cute. I always, whenever there's like someone that I made like Alex Ki. I'm like, oh, that's like a good pair. Or like the Andrew Garfield one. Cynthia Rivo was really cute on there too.

[Trisha Paytas]

She sang too.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I think so. I remember the. In the promo photo too. Like the way I think Emelia was standing like in front, like in front of the table. She looked like two feet. Little Cynthia. Like that is so cute to me though.

[Trisha Paytas]

She seems very petite. I gotta get into it. I gotta, gotta get into it. I don't watch a lot of YouTube, but I see what I see on.

[Oscar Gracie]

Tick Tock, like, you can go on chicken shop. That makes sense for you to eat little chicken tenders with Amelia.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

The same management, I think, think really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Pretty sure it never got brought up to me. You know, I'd be saying yes to that. But if you can't eat chicken, that's what's the point. I'd be hungry. I'd be like, oh, my God, I want to eat it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm sure you. I mean, Amelia eats, but I'm sure it depends on. Honestly. Yeah, you do. Like a piping.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. When I went to Access Hollywood, the first time I met you, it was cold in and out.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yes. Or the mukbang or whatever. Yeah, we did have it sitting there for a minute before you got there.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should do it, because that's what I was talking about the mukbang on coming up this week. I was like, we gotta place order when the person's here. So that way, like, mid interview, it comes in, like, piping hot, you know? Cause there's nothing worse than, like, food sitting out. I cannot do that.

[Oscar Gracie]

The one time we did it with the Panda Express.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my. That was literally torturous. Oscar's like, let's just finish this. And we had, like, 45 minutes left, and our food is just, like, sitting there. I was like, not anymore.

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

We eat as soon as possible, as quick as possible. Oh, Panda sounds good too, but I don't know. That baked potato at Wendy's hits for me. I love that baked potato. It's pretty good time.

[Oscar Gracie]

And the nuggets have been really good over there lately.

[Trisha Paytas]

You get a nugget and salad. Is that what you get?

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what I got last time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

To channel Shane Dawson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really? It is very him. Yeah, it was very that he would do that at, like, Cheesecake Factory. Al Dorito, we get, like, nachos. But then he get, like, a salad. I was like, I love that. Just like a little. A little combo. A little balance, I guess.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh. You know who made their YouTube comeback?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

One of your faves. Ingrid Nielsen. Ms. Glamorazzi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where was she? I love that this is a hot topic.

[Oscar Gracie]

I saw People magazine, of all places.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, People. I had to mute them. They're their headlines are.

[Oscar Gracie]

They are all over the place. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to say I was in one of their headlines this weekend of me, like, performing pride. And all the comments like, why is this a headline? A t? Honestly, Maybe. But it wasn't even that. Maybe it was Something else, like, random. And I was like, this is not a headline, but okay. I had to mute them. Their headlines were. Their headlines are sad.

[Oscar Gracie]

A lot of times they cover, like, they just cover everything. Like, they do celebrity stuff, then they do like, murders. They do human interest pieces. Like, it's kind of all over the place. They randomly will do like, Reddit things. Like. Because they always get me too. Because they'll be like, woman breaks up with man for only eating, for never eating vegetables. Then I click it and then it's like a Reddit post.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, well, wait, really?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. They write an article on a Reddit post. But I mean, it works.

[Trisha Paytas]

It got me clicking on those. I never cook on those. I'm like, this is not real.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was looking for a hot topic. I'm like, oh, that's a good conversation. Like, she broke out because he would never eat a vegetable. But then I'm like, oh, it's just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, well, it's the Reddit story.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, am I the asshole for breaking up with a man who would only eat like chicken tenders and never vegetables?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sounds like my dream. Honestly. That's so crazy. When people get so annoyed that you don't eat vegetables. I'm like, why do you care? It's like, not your body. You're not cooking for me. Like, everyone gets so mad. I bet she's never eat a vegetable. Or, oh, there's never any greens. Like, okay. People are so weird. Okay, people. Well, what's this headline?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, yes, this headline is Ingrid Nilsson returns to YouTube for first time in five years.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did she say?

[Oscar Gracie]

To reflect on the anniversary of her coming out video. Her coming out video turned 10 years old.

[Trisha Paytas]

10 years.

[Oscar Gracie]

Which is crazy. Yeah, she posted it June 9, 2015, and she left YouTube for good in 2020. And yeah, she just came out to reflect on 10 years since coming out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does she look the same how she look?

[Oscar Gracie]

She honestly does look the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Haircut.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it's like the short, I guess, lob, because it's not really a bob.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of like a long brown.

[Oscar Gracie]

And she's still. It's kind of crazy. Her face looks exactly the same. She has not aged at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what's her. What's her story now?

[Oscar Gracie]

She just says that she. I mean, she still is queer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lesbian, I believe.

[Oscar Gracie]

Lesbian. Let me make sure she also.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's also like, you know what? Maybe I'm here now.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's true. She was a man now. Yeah, she died.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does.

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did you say? I'm Kidding.

[Oscar Gracie]

I said I was a joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, that's. That would be actually crazy. There's actually something happening. That's wild.

[Oscar Gracie]

She still. She says that to this day, she still has people coming up to her to talk about her video coming out. And she says that being attracted to women was something that has always been a part of her. But she was on YouTube before she came out. She didn't feel like her sexuality would have been universally accepted in that environment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

And she said that she felt a lot of freedom and gratitude after posting that video. And even though she was really scared and nervous to do it. And she said behind the scenes, a lot of people were telling her not to come out because it would jeopardize her career. And she said, I'm gonna do it anyway. And she was really scared before she did it. But she said that she was getting threats after coming out with people being so upset with her that she. Queer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

In 2015.

[Oscar Gracie]

Damn. Yeah. And at the same. She said. At the same time, I thought to myself, you know, I have been through so much in my life. I did not grow up with money. I was like, I can figure this out. I've been in hard places before, and if my career disappears and I lose everything, I can figure it out. Which work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, didn't she take herself off the Internet in 2020?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So 2015, she was just saying that's when she thought her career was over.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Because I guess I'm assuming it's probably, like, people behind the scenes, her team or whoever she was with at the time being like. Like, this is probably bad for you to come out. I.

[Trisha Paytas]

So weird.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, I think that was the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Year everyone came out.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Joey. I guess it is. Like, I'm trying to think lesbians of YouTube at that time. I could only really think of. Yes. I was gonna say Hannah Hart. The only one I can write.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. That's what I'm saying. The lesbian icons were scarce back in the day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. So I can kind of see, I. Weirdly, I guess, patriarchy, because gay band, gay man was more accepting than it was very.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, you definitely were gonna be trending if you came out as gay. And people were like, yes, we love this so much.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was the Tyler Oakley era where everyone's like, we need a gay best friend, Tyler Oakley.

[Oscar Gracie]

And even the straight boys had little flower crowns.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's so true. And they were all. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Collabing, flirting with Tyler. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're so right. So, Joey and then Connor and then Troye, Sivan, Shane Dawson.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

All of them like, wow. Yeah, you're right.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah, lesbian icons. You're right. Were very much scarce back then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you talk about Luke Connard?

[Oscar Gracie]

I should have known. That would have been your first question.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to know about that. Did you date? Were you having sex? What was the appeal? Like, I. Because they just never gave that vibe and I was just like, I don't know if this is a real relationship. Wonder if it was a real relationship. I don't think so. It never gave off real.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Trisha Paytas]

He always had her dressing in like a panda outfit and she'd always go toasty and they would do it to each other. And he was like 30, acting like he was like 18. And I was like, what happened here?

[Oscar Gracie]

A lot younger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Oscar Gracie]

She must have been like early 20s.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I thought she was like my age. And I think like, Luke, what I heard, I don't know how old he is now, but I heard he was like 32 back then.

[Oscar Gracie]

And she must have been like 22, 21.

[Trisha Paytas]

19 or 20. Maybe 20. 21.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I guess I should factor. I don't know, but I think she's my age. Like 88 is what I would assume her year.

[Oscar Gracie]

89.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so she's Taylor's age. So she's 36. What's Luke's age?

[Oscar Gracie]

Do you think that'll even come up? Does anyone. Do you guys even know Luke Connor? I mean, he did the Vlogmas song.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did what? What was it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I vlog every day till Christmas for you. Oh, he's born in 91. 81.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's eight years. But eight years back then. What year are we talking about? This is like 2011. So he's 30. He's like 30. If he was doing 81 and this is 2011, he's 30. She's like seven years younger. So 23. No, eight years. So she's 22.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we were pretty close. 30. You. We were pretty close.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it was just weirder, I think too. And again, in retrospect, because he was. He would very much infantilize her and like. Yeah, it was very much like.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's what I'm saying. She was like in onesies and a panda and they were doing weird things. Yeah, like I was just like, yeah, but no, it was weird. He was hanging out with all like 20 year olds and it's like at 30. Okay. But also. Yeah, I don't Know, he. He gave weird vibes because he was like making songs for everybody. All these young kids like Joey were.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like sexual essay allegations against him later on. So I guess that does make. Yeah. So all these thoughts are not the manipulation. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz even that Whitney who came out like, even though whatever. Whatever you say about her story, it still was. He definitely was like manipulative in the whole situation. And Joey's even younger than Ingrid, so he must have been like 19. Hanging out with Luke because they were doing those songs together. The arena.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Story of my life.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they would do all the weird ones.

[Oscar Gracie]

How do we forget to ask Joey.

[Trisha Paytas]

About Luke just for a whole Luke Connard episode? I have so many questions. Yes. Like why was he. Why was he on vacation with all these young kids? Like, granted, they're young adults. 30. Where is Luke Connor now?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's an excellent question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, that's the hot topic. Everyone.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, everyone has died. I know. I thought so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that Ms. Glamorazzi back. So she back for good.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think she just came for this little retrospective on the tenure of her video, her life. Honestly, the last time I would. I guess this. What she was still on the Internet. Last time I was in New York, it was 2019. But she was like the face of a. Like a all natural cosmetics thing in New York. Like I would walk down the streets in New York and her face would be like all over the place.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So miss a brand deal, girly.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Well, love Michelle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Get her on your podcasting. I wonder if people. I wonder. It's always hard to know if people would be interested or not. Probably not. I mean, not to be like, whatever, but probably no one. I never heard anyone talk about this comeback, which I mean, I love her. I love her, but I'm saying.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, do people.

[Trisha Paytas]

People, I guess picks it up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. I get for. For millennials. I feel like everyone has to. If you were on YouTube and are currently a millennial, I feel like you got it. Because I mean, she is the originator of vlogmas. Like that is so iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so true.

[Oscar Gracie]

To be the originator of vlogmas that people still do to this day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Do they just you and Ms. Remy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Ashton, I think, and Alicia Marie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. You three. I was like, I don't know if people. Even as we gave up a few years ago on vlogmas. I'm like, I don't think this is happening for anyone right now. Cuz no one's watching vlogs unless you're Ms. REM.

[Oscar Gracie]

Her whole thing is vlogs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who?

[Oscar Gracie]

Vanilla Mace? That's her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she vlogs on YouTube.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought she's like a streamer because I always see her streamer.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's a streamer and vlogger vlogs are back.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, Corey King, vlog vlogging queen exception.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because royalty vlogs are making a comeback, baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got to get back as like Broadway.

[Oscar Gracie]

That one I realized is going to come January 2026. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, but a year later. A year looking back. Yeah. Like, let's look back at this year vlog that I never posted.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I do got to finish my. The one from your music video and birthday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gosh.

[Oscar Gracie]

And my little Boo Boo unboxing. When Verde said he could be my editor, I might just have to. I might just have to employ. Yeah, because I always tell myself I'm going to do do it. But then I get so tired from like, editing other stuff like Patreon or Tick Tocks. And then I'm like, I don't really care about editing my own stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

You do edit, like full, full time, double full time.

[Oscar Gracie]

So by the time it comes to myself, I'm like, who cares?

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's like having the outside source house, like Jimmy or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So maybe Ben will videos.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never seen his edits.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love that he also does vlogs and stuff on his channel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Ben Verde killing it. I love seeing him. He just like, yeah, he showed up to my last show. I was so surprised. I was like, oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

I didn't even know this. Darian told me that Ben reached out to Darian to see, like, what Labubu I needed before getting it. I was like, that is so sweet. Secretly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I love that. I was like, I didn't know. I didn't know where the rainbow teeth one came from. And he's like, this is the one. I was like, oh, my God. It's so exciting. Like, I don't know. I don't know how the little Boo Boo system works, but I love that. I know. That was fun. That was exciting.

[Oscar Gracie]

That was.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was a good one.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's so sweet. Oh, we love Ben Shout Out, Ben Verde.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hope you get that part you auditioned for. I love that he's auditioning. I need to start auditioning more. I don't audition tomorrow. We gotta set my blue backdrop up for.

[Oscar Gracie]

Weren't you doing your little reads before for. You said you had to do a read.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did do a read.

[Oscar Gracie]

Self tape. Or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

A self tape. Yes. I have another self tape tomorrow. I did do a self tape. I don't think it's out yet. If it comes out, I'll let people know what it is.

[Oscar Gracie]

Tangled. The live action tangle. Like jokes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Me doing Rapunzel.

[Oscar Gracie]

I would love for it to leave. I need one of your self tapes to leave.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll make my own. I have a self tape of something I booked and then I have a self tape of something I definitely knew I wasn't gonna book and my makeup was bad, that everything was bad that day. But tomorrow I'm getting glam. Cause this is a big self tape tomorrow for a big thing. So we got. And now we gotta get. We never had the blue fabric, did we? Damn.

[Moses Hacmon]

It has blue fabrics.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh?

[Moses Hacmon]

I have one from maternity shoot. It's like a blue.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not the blue fabric. You see the self tapes when people do the blue behind them. Why do they do blue and not green?

[Moses Hacmon]

We can do blue screen or green screen. Yeah, but I only see blue.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've only seen blue. I've never seen green.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe they just decided that's the standard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone does a blue.

[Oscar Gracie]

God.

[Moses Hacmon]

I meant to movies do blue, but I have one. I just need to look in the garage. I have one blue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got to do mine tomorrow. It's a big one tomorrow. My biggest one yet. And I'm like, oh, Ma2.

[Oscar Gracie]

Ma2, get your bob out, girl. I need you to a bob next week. The mushroom bob or I'm gonna lose it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Okay. You remind me of that too. Okay, I'll do that after this. I do want to get a mom Jors.

[Oscar Gracie]

Combine them jorts with the mom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that would look so slight. What is my top? What do I have for the upper half?

[Oscar Gracie]

What does mo wear? Actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have from fashion Nova.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh yeah. And it's pink.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it? Let me see Mom.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's like a pink floral. It almost looks like. Almost like scrubs or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I probably do have it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, you can kind of only see the top of it, but it almost looks like a moomoo or pink floral scrubs.

[Trisha Paytas]

She eats them. That really does look like me. That is so weird. I like her little smile, her little smirk. I love it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I need them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need her on. I need ma on the podcast.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm telling you. It starts with. It starts with Megan and then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Why is it just got me? Because as I was looking that up, it said Melissa McCarthy is game for a Moss sequel to work with Octavia, you cannot let me.

[Trisha Paytas]

You lost the weight. You don't get these roles anymore. I. It's my turn, not her. Still coming for. It's like with a Jacob lord going for the gay roles. It's like, no, no, no, no. Not happening anymore in 2025. That's crazy. Why? Why? No, no, no.

[Oscar Gracie]

We can't let Melissa McCarthy get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I will. That's crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm losing all the ROLES To Melissa McCarthy and I hate it. Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

The self Davis.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Oh, my God. It better not. It better not be. Damn. What? What?

[Oscar Gracie]

This. The thought of this, like. Like the casting director has, like, the two headshots on the board. It's like Melissa McCarthy, Trisha Paytas, and like, they're all sitting there, like, which ones?

[Trisha Paytas]

And, you know, all the Gen Z gays are like, well, they actually love Melissa cards. I do, but I feel like they're on my side. But then the one old executive. Yeah. That's like, oh, Melissa McCarthy. Even Ursula. I was like, how. How did me not get. How did Lizzo not get it? You know what I mean? Like, how did you know? And I love Melissa McCarthy. No shade, but she was getting everything. She's like the Patrick Pascal back in the day, getting every role for Curvy Girls. Yeah. I was like, hate it so much. Hate it.

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hate to Melissa McCarthy. But that's crazy. She was like trying to gun for.

[Oscar Gracie]

A rolling mob after you claimed it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Absolutely not.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, who else reminded me of you, though, was the Meghan Markle video. When she was. She released a video of her twerking in the hospital and she was about to give birth. It really gave me Trisha energy. And now I was like, I can really see you on Love Megan after that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love to. Megan.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, here we go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone was coming for her. They thought it looked fake. Some people try to be like she had, you know, the little, like, cords, a little like, heart rate monitors on her belly. Belly. It was crazy. The video itself, not just the belly. Do you know where she gave birth? Did you see this video? Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

It might have been the UK first one. It was Princess Lilibet, right? Yeah, Lilibet's fourth birthday. I think they were still in the UK at that time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So I just. And then Prince Harry is, like, going, like, around the front, like, dancing. It was just an odd.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was real. I thought it was fake or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was real. And then people were saying they thought her belly was fake because it was like, this weird, like, crunchiness to it. Like, it didn't look like a belly. I don't know. I don't want to get on the Meghan Markle. Hate trainers.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, Archie was first. Archie was for. Maybe she might have been here. Yeah, she might have been in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

U.S. it's just like, so also, I always wonder when people have time to do this. Like, I. I keep telling Moses, I'm like, next time. This time we're in the hospital, we need to get this footage of us because we never have time to do cute videos ever. Like, no matter what, even if it's a schedule C section, we push. Like, there's never time, time. So I'm always like, when do people have time to do this?

[Moses Hacmon]

Just. This is the one where they're dancing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It does look like an odd shape. He's. What is he doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. The whole thing is odd. And I'm just like, when do they have time to do all this? We need to start doing this. How?

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe she has something around her belt.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what they're saying. They're like saying maybe it's a heart rate monitor or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, right. Because they do have the belt with those things.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's still. It's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but that would. It.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it's like, cute because it's like, oh, my God, they're so. They're just like us kind of thing. But also.

[Moses Hacmon]

But we never did that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we need to. I keep telling you, every time we're in the hospital now, it's like, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But every time that we've never seen anyone do this, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or when they videotape the guy helping the girl out of the bed and, like, showering her. I'm like, we need to start doing that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because you do the little tick tock dance like the Mormon wives. Mormon wives and like the. And I see you and it's just, oh, my God. You have to do that while pregnant. Like, I'm about to give birth. And it's like, you would doing the absence. Yeah, fame is a good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, she's trying to induce crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she was trying to, like, induce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so what does that mean? I don't understand. How are they at the hospital? I don't. I guess I don't get child.

[Oscar Gracie]

She said four years ago today, it was. The baby mama dance song is playing in the background. And it was like a throwback to when she was giving birth to Princess Lilibet four years ago. And she said that it was because oh, the baby was past the due date, and she was trying to, like, induce.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they went to the hospital. They weren't, like, in labor, so they're just, like, in the hospital.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I suppose so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trying to get it out.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess we never had that experience. Even when we have, like, a scheduled C section, it's like, paperwork and people coming in. We never get a minute. I think we got, like, one second to film last time, and I was like, I. I never got, like, a minute to film my last, like, pregnant moment, you know, with. We have to do it this time. Are you, like, helping me out or something like that? I just. I. I love moments like that. Like, get you a man, he'll do this for you after labor. And it's like, God, we never get that, like, in my diaper and stuff.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess I like. I have to film that because you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have to set it up. You have to be in it. That's the thing. You have to, like, go set it on a shelf. Then you have to, like, come back and be in the video with me. I always think it's so funny. I mean, granted, I love this idea. I want to do it, too. But it's so funny when people film, like, canon moments in the hospital after giving birth, and it's like, their husband, like, helping them up. I'm like, someone had to set it up in that, like, little corner right there every.

[Oscar Gracie]

The Morning Routine videos and all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Which is, like, morning routine's okay. You're giving birth and you're like, let's set these up. Which I get.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's better than the Logan Paul. The Lunch Lays in the background.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that was crazy. But honestly, if Pepsi gave me a million dollars, I'd be putting Pepsi there. I would do it, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, I'm going to be wearing.

[Trisha Paytas]

The chest merch, the Just Rich. I'm surprised you didn't have, like, a little sad boy hoodie. Used to wear that all the time back in the, like, hospital. Yeah. I'm not above it, but I just think. Yeah, it's weird. I think more when a guy does it, like, if Moses is, like, promoting his product in the back or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

And also, I mean, she posted this four years later. It's not like, you know, she was posting it before she gave birth or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's cute, but I just. I can't get on. I don't know. I think it's cute, but I think it's also cringy.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I think it's so. You Coded. I can't wait for your famous a gun dance.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, we'll do it cute, casual. Most. A lot of the comments said like, you know, Diana, like his mom would have been dancing there with, you know, so they, they see it as something like. Cuz usually the royals are like so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Proper, so playful, especially Harry. It's so fun to see that. Okay, we'll do it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Back to that. We would do it.

[Oscar Gracie]

And to that point too because the people in some people in like the UK outlets, these were some of the common comments. It was so crass. I thought it was a spoof. Grinding like a stripper.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? Oh my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sharing this report for clicks. Sharing this with the world. Poor judgment. Just for clicks. She's so desperate. Wait, what woman has no shame?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Easy to see that she's not a royal. As no royal person would behave in such a vulgar, low class way. It is simply disgusting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean she literally was doing nothing. She literally dancing with her belly.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's what I'm saying. Okay. Yes. I'm changing my problem.

[Oscar Gracie]

The hate, especially in the uk, it's a lot more. It's like the hate over there is like specifically a lot more racist over there too. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What? That's crazy. The comments are crazy. I think this is cringe, like whatever. Yeah, I like it now. You're right, I do like it. And you know what? I would do the same thing. I was just like, when do they have time? Like, who's setting this up? But I feel I like it. And also to all the people being like, is that probably real? Who cares? You know, like the Beyonce too. I hate when people like. So I take everything back that I just said, okay? Because like who are we to judge? I hate when people like, they're faking pregnancy, they're faking this. Who does this while pregnant? Who does this well after? Why? Just came off a 40 city tour nine months pregnant. Okay. Like you can do anything. Pregnant bellies come in all shapes and sizes. She probably had heart rate monitors around there. She probably had a lot of things. Beyonce too. When she would like sit down, it would like crease. I was like, people are just so. Who cares? Like who cares? Oh, she was never pregnant. She was never. That's. Oh my God. Well, they have babies, so however they got here, it's fine to just chill. Oh God, they're so. And those comments are so. They sound like British people just being like, like this is so crass.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know because I mean they say it's twerking. But I mean, it's not like moving.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her ball in a big moomoo.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, I think it's the movements were specifically to induce.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like all the movement. She was getting kind of low and like, it's usually you sit on a ball and you do those movements. So all the movements she was doing, that's why I was like, is she trying to induce? I was like, because it makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

And they're like, I mean, I'm just happy to see the couples. They're just playful, playing, happy together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they do seem happy. It's so funny. God, it is easy to jump on the hate train. Cuz some of the stuff like the interviews can be like, cringy and stuff like that. But you know, people even like being like, oh, her calling H is so cringy. But it's like, I don't know. She's like, yeah, sometimes, you know, I'll get up and make breakfast and H is in the other room and they're like, this is cringy. But I'm like, well, they seem to like each other. They seem to be like.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's very common with famous people. I know a lot of famous people. They'll just say the first letter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. My tour manager called me T and he called Gerard G all the time. So that is true.

[Moses Hacmon]

Common thing. That's what they call.

[Oscar Gracie]

Taylor's team calls Taylor T. Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's so cool. I never knew that on tour people.

[Moses Hacmon]

Call me so again, so there's things that people don't know. Like, it just. That's the world they live in and that's how people talk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like that I'm part of that world now. So she calls him H. I like that. Okay, so, yeah, y' all just don't know. Y' all wish you were in that world. You wish you were royal. Knowing this, we are the inner circle that knows. We know how these things work. Yeah, yeah. God. People. And like you said, and then if they, like, aren't together or they're then the speculation, oh, why aren't they together? Oh, they're breaking. It's like people just, you know, they just don't want anyone happy. They don't want anyone apart. Then they come for you. It's just crazy. Leave Megan alone, okay? I want to be on Love Megan. We have to get another recipe from that show because that was so good.

[Oscar Gracie]

We honestly should. We have to make that again too. That pasta really was. I was thinking about that pasta the other day. That was good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses did admit to me he added a little extra cheese to it because I was like, that was very tasty. Did he tell you that?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I think he told us. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, I better put some more cheese because that was very tasty.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was good. But it did taste nice and fresh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, it was a very. It's a good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need that summer again, too. We should make it always hungry. I didn't eat again today. Oh, my God. Just. Just literally just lemon. A lemon loaf this morning. That's just one little lemon loaf. That's. That's it. Just. Just. But usually I have, like, a Taco Bell. I usually have something before, but I. I really have been having no time. Just that after we finished last time, we had Cheesecake Factory and ordered double entrees.

[Oscar Gracie]

That sounds so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we could get that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Cheesecake Factory does sound good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chicken crispers and orange chicken. I had the double duty.

[Oscar Gracie]

Ooh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, we can. We have. We have time. Do you have time today? What's your schedule like?

[Oscar Gracie]

I do have time to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, I know sometimes you're busy. Yeah, yeah. But whatever. Your schedule is, like, schedule permitting. We should order it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I'm down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Stephanie sue, our friend.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Stephanie Sue. What's happening with her? I love her.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, she talked about on rotten mango and on her TikTok, how there were moments when she was in the Diddy trial where did he, like, looked over and, like, mouthed to her. I know you and Stephanie Sue. To Stephanie Sue. Yeah. And it happened on two different occasions, two different days. And she said. And this was said by Stephanie, she said her researcher, who obviously helps produce rotten mango, was next to her, also had that in her notes, too. And another, like, separate reporter came up to her after and was like, are you gonna put that in the podcast? Because it was so, like, ominous. Yeah. And he did it Two. Two different days, according to Stephanie. Yeah. Which is. So how does he.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean? Yeah. Did she talk about it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I mean, she said that he, like, looked over and mouth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she said it. She's like, saying this.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Yeah. She's in part of her reporting.

[Trisha Paytas]

And was she scared? Was she shook?

[Oscar Gracie]

She, I think, nerved to. And then also there was another element where she said that, like, in the midst of this trial, like, she's been having a lot of people that aren't typically what, like, look like, you know, Rotten Mango fans or, like, listeners, like, come up to her. And a lot of people have come up to her like, like making, like, trying to make small talk, but they go, oh, so where are you staying? Like, a lot of people have been asking what hotel she's at. Are you telling them no, she's. Her producer or researcher is helping her, like, get out of these situations. But then there was another instance where someone came to, like, give her a hug, but then she got pulled. They pulled Stephanie out and they were like, that person was trying to put, like, his hand in your bag. So almost like, could it have been, what, a tracker or something? You know, it's. She's had a lot of, like, weird oh, my God situations in New York. She said a lot of people are asking, like, oh, so, like, do you go home in between, in between, like, court dates? Are you staying in the city? Do you take the subway? Are you taking the train? Like, asking a lot of invasive questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

How is she still there? I'd be like, oh, I'd be like, I'm going out. Like, she does true crime for a living. Like this. 20 red flags.

[Oscar Gracie]

And there was another thing too, obviously, like we talked about in the beginning, before the trial started officially, like during jury selection and stuff, that she, like, noted that he, like, looked like a. Did he look like a koala? Describing, like, the, like, the fluffiness of his hair. I saw a picture and so there was a news article, an official news article that Diddy made a request to the sketch artist in court saying, like, can you make me not look so much like a co op, Paula?

[Trisha Paytas]

So how's he listening? How's he listening? Isn't he, I think, I'm sure, like.

[Oscar Gracie]

His team, I'm assuming his team or like his. He talks to his kids or whatever and people around or maybe his, like, legal counsel, whatever is, you know, they, as part of what they're doing. I'm sure they see like, the media and the coverage around it and like, are giving him like the. The highlights, whatever. And it. Honestly, when I was thinking about, well, to Stephanie, these credit to. Outside of this, there was another thing where the judge threatened to throw him out of court because of his reactions with the jury, his interactions with the jury. Like, he keeps doing this thing where, like, there'll be someone coming to take the stand and he'll like, be. Be very expressive. Like, he'll shake his head or he'll nod his head or he'll like, mouth stuff. And he's just been being very expressive, like, with the eye contact to the, like the press, to the jury. So it's so much so that the judge Is threatening to remove him from the courtroom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why is he doing it? To intimidate or what?

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess so yeah, he's doing something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz his nods, they said it's not like a normal nod where you like nod to like he does a very specific and people trying to figure out what is he trying to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my gosh.

[Oscar Gracie]

So even like without like so I think hearing that. And this is again this is the judge is saying that and then with Stephanie like coverage too and her saying that I'm like this totally makes sense with everything that's like been going on and as far as like the media. Yeah there are like you know, I guess like famous reporters that are covering the court case. But I like we said at the beginning like she's like the only like influencer like where her whole brand is her. It's not like she's reporting for CBS News or CNN or something. So the fact that yeah I think she has two like researcher or you know, people help with the podcast producers that are also there taking notes and stuff. But yeah, everyone's like very concerned. Like girl, be safe, get security.

[Trisha Paytas]

Security for sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

Especially like and he could be listening. Cuz if you're in prison, you know you can pay money and get a cell phone. True. So like all the reporters they write maybe articles but she, he could actually sit there all night and listen to rotten Mango podcasts and people reporting on.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's just like reporting. She's not like against Diddy or anything.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean she, yeah, she's just like reporting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's not like saying like bring.

[Moses Hacmon]

Him down by reporting you're against him because just the clear nature of reporting because the whole case is bringing out everything that bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

But saying like oh like describing him as a koala isn't like innocent.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like. Yeah, well he said he wanted to look less like a koala. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

So it's like so just means that he does know what she's talking. Like he knows what she's saying means. It means either he's listening or people giving him notes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what did she say she's doing about it? Is she saying anything?

[Oscar Gracie]

She said that she changes her hotels like all the time. Like she will always. She won't stay at the same place for too long. Oh my God, I'm, I'm, I feel like she must at some point get like security or something. I mean I guess realistically she is so like front facing. She is so famous that like, it's not. Not like anything could really happen to her without the whole world knowing. I guess, like, to find some kind of, you know, security in there with.

[Moses Hacmon]

Many people that were around Didi, that something did happen to them. They were famous. They were. But they got pneumonia, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

My gosh.

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess. I mean, he is, like, so, like, all eyes are on him at this point in, like, you know, at least. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, at least she's, like, letting people know, so it's like, you know where.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, just so y' all know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it's probably, like, fine. But still, even like, if he has, like.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, there are people who think he's innocent, so that's also a thing too. Like, going out. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how long is it still going on?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's there every day.

[Oscar Gracie]

I. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's doing a podcast every day after.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Anytime that she does her, like, tik Tok analysis and then, yeah, she does, like, a rotten mango. I wonder how many episodes she's done so far.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should have check, like, mentally, too. I mean, aren't you just, like, this is a lot.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I have to scroll past it because I'm just like, even for me to listen to everything, like, this is so much.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, no. Yeah, she's just doing Diddy right now. I mean, that makes sense. Not like, she has time to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's in there all day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But not getting paid to be in there, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, her content makes money, but her content makes money. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I don't think she's in, like, being paid to cover.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I don't know how she does it.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's done.

[Trisha Paytas]

8, 9, 10 videos and posting on YouTube.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. 10 videos over the month under Rotten.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mango or Stephanie Sue.

[Oscar Gracie]

Rotten Mango.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so it's like her podcast.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do. Well.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Million millions.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. 2 million, 7 million, 3 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so, yeah, he definitely knows who she is.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Then you have that many eyes on you, too. It's just like. Oh, yeah. Like you said. Are you a fan? Are you not? You like watching me for other reasons.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's very different to talk about, you know, true crime when the crime already happened and everyone diseased. And this is like, as it's happening. As it's happening, the people are the perpetrator.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you don't know the outcome.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, because there's the other case, the dark. The Idaho four case where, like, two. Four college kids were murdered, and then the Guy that they arrested the. That they innocent to proven guilty, but he. He's the main suspect. They like, went through his search history and he was watching all the true crime YouTubers videos on the murders, which is like, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. So he's just like.

[Oscar Gracie]

He was watching all. Yeah. These creators covering the murder before he was like, arrested. So. Yeah. That's ominous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

True crime is very true. Is crazy hard to cover.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then when you become. Become. Not that you become. But you're like involved all of a sudden. You know what I mean? Because it's one thing that you said to report on it, but then now you're part of it where like now the person in the courtroom.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is like, eyeing you. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, it's like reporting on this. I didn't want to be like, involved.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then the. Now that these people, the creators videos will be used in the court case as like, oh, look, he watched this video from this YouTuber on this. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is a crime is scary. Right? Like that and happening in real time. That guy now got arrested and I was watching the videos about what happened. It's like, give it a good couple decades before you report on it maybe, you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's scary.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I don't have a true crime. Yeah. True crime is always. It's hard. Like, I. It's like I get the fascination. Like I used to watch a lot of it too. Like, I get the fascination with it because it is like a weird human, like, interest. It's so, so like removed from normal human psyche. That is so interesting. But it is scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Especially when it comes to like. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Present cases.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes, yes. Very much so. I'm. I'm. I. That's why I was like, went to the Justin and Blake stuff because I'm.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, this is relatively light as far as no murders. Yes. In comparison. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, serious issues.

[Oscar Gracie]

Serious but not deadly. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. All right, well, stay safe. Stephanie there. Yes. Yes. Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm worried for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. She remember a few years ago too. Nicocado she had like, was scared of. You know, she did a whole, like, he's in. Someone else had, like, come into her house.

[Oscar Gracie]

I remember, I remember she has something with security camera footage or something. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

With Nikado.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then before that too, there was another. What Guy inspecting the refrigerator or something like that. Like that. And she went up to go get her weapon. Remember that? Did we watch it together? Yeah. It was like crazy. That was like during 2020, it was like a guy that was like working on the thing and she was. I think she was home by herself.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, he was either a scammer or some. Something was odd and she was just trying to get him out at that point.

[Oscar Gracie]

She was just a mukbanger at that. Like not even true crime at that point.

[Trisha Paytas]

She did mukbang true crime.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's always what I knew her for. I don't know if she did a mukbang, but then I guess now she just did true crime. But I remember I would watch her and she would do it. But yeah, at that time she. Someone came into her house and she's like, told her boyfriend, like, had a signal for him to go get like the weapon upstairs or something. So scary, girl, stay safe. I mean, it is. It's, you know. Yeah. That's wild. Especially this. Oh, my God. Is it. I think Diddy's like, I know. You're big.

[Oscar Gracie]

Bye. Yeah, never see me again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's scary. It's scary thing. Well, at least she made people aware of it, which is also a good thing.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let people know what's up. But how do we end there? I don't know. Yikes. We love you, though. I love Stephanie. Sue, I can't watch the coverage. It's too much. Yeah, maybe you'll go in. Not in there. Not in the court case. But maybe you could go jury duty soon.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, tying back all the way to January. I keep putting it off, but I don't even think I can go. I'm supposed to go. And beginning of end of June, beginning of July, I can't even do that. So I gotta postpone it again. Again? Yeah, you can request to get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Post, but does that mean you have to go again? You can't just cancel.

[Oscar Gracie]

You can get an excuse or something. I don't really know how, but I just keep postponing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, let us know how that goes. Keep a. Keep us updated.

[Oscar Gracie]

Hopefully it is just a regular schmegular little case. Nothing. Nothing like this.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can never know, though. You never know what it's going to be. I just wish everyone safety out there. Stay safe, stay diligent, stay alert, and we love you. I'm so hungry, my wig is so tight. But we'll order Cheesecake Factory after this. All right, we love you guys. Just Trish hats available@just trish.com with your mugs. Patreon.com Just Trish get your bonus videos today airsatrish.com streaming June 25th at 5:30pm Pacific Time standard Time. And then Oscar Gracie will be at the Try Guys Telethon for Creators for Peace. Creators for Peace. Oh, is that what it's called? I love the name. I didn't know that. Creators for Peace. Check it out. At the Try Guys, right? That's where you go. So, yeah, follow Oscar everywhere. He'll let you know where to go. Oscar Gracie, follow Moses. No longer doing tin fish reviews.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do you mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, you are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't know it was actually reported on the news that this is going to be the Tin Fish Summer. No more Bright Summer.

[Trisha Paytas]

No one said that.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Oscar Gracie]

There's a tin coming out.

[Moses Hacmon]

I forgot to say I saw that one, too. No, literally on the news. Tin Fish Summer, all of New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

You started the trend, babe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I think tin fish reviews started, but okay, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You escalated it. Okay. I'm proud of you. Sorry, I take that back. Why was I so snappy? I'm sorry. I'm hungry. That's what it is. Oh, my God. When I'm hungry. Yesterday I was hungry, too. Yesterday we were in and out and Moses didn't order anything. And I. I was like, what the hell? Why are we sitting in line for 30 minutes for one order? He was hungry, didn't order anything. I was like. I was so annoyed. And then I knew our eating, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

We were rushing to a meeting, so we were like. We got. We said 10 minutes late, so then there's no time to eat. So I was like. Because I was going to drive Rush.

[Trisha Paytas]

There, but I had time to eat.

[Moses Hacmon]

The burger because you're in the passenger seat.

[Trisha Paytas]

We could have pulled over for three.

[Moses Hacmon]

Minutes for you to eat a burger rather than that. Like, then I don't enjoy it. Then I'd rather not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, it was so annoying. And then we were off on our eating schedule. So then I wanted dinner, but then he ate at 3.

[Oscar Gracie]

3.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so we weren't.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but that's because she assumes I eat the way she does.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

I can have lunch at 3, 4, and then have dinner at 6, 7. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I need my meals, but it wasn't like a good one. I was like, oh, I should get pizza. And I was like a good meal because I was hungry and I was so hangry. Oh, my God. Yesterday I was so hangry. And then once I ate, I felt so much better. So we need to order that food so I don't get hangry again. Love you guys so much. Go watch the extended podcast us, and we'll see you next time. Bye.