Mikayla Nogueira’s NEW MAN After Divorce & Hilary Duff Faces MEAN GIRL Allegations

Summary

Just Trish Podcast – March 3, 2026

Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-hosts: Moses & Oscar Gracey
Episode theme: Pop culture, internet drama, celebrity relationships, and unfiltered commentary on trending topics

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Episode Overview

This week, Trisha, Moses, and Oscar are back with a hilariously unfiltered ride through the week’s juiciest internet drama, celebrity gossip, and personal anecdotes—from celebrity makeovers and body image discourse to wild reality TV moments and the perils of dating “normies.” As always, Trish and her crew keep it real, messy, and refreshingly honest, riffing on everything from McDonald's burgers to the etiquette of farting into microphones.

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Highlights & Key Talking Points

1. St. Patrick’s Day Vibes & Lucky Girl Syndrome

Timestamps: 01:00–03:45

• Trisha announces that March is her "favorite month," channeling festive Irish energy and “lucky girl” syndrome.
  • “Today I was inspired by just the luck of the Irish, the luck of the Trish, the leprechauns, if you will.” (Trisha, 00:53)
• The group riffs on Irish-themed foods (Bailey’s, corned beef, See’s Irish cream candy) and novelty McDonald’s menu items.
• Moses reveals he's never had Irish cream (or an Irish hookup).
  • Running joke: “Never even hooked up with an Irish man in my time.” (Moses, 01:48)

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2. Food, Fast Food, and Viral Marketing

Timestamps: 02:16–05:00

• Discussion of the new McDonald’s Big Arch Burger and why "bad press is really just good marketing."
• Trisha reveals her Arby’s Black Card and the confusion it caused at the drive-through.
  • “I got an Arby’s black card... it says, ‘To the number one mozzarella stick fan, Trish Brady Stackman. Never expires. No fees.’” (Trisha, 04:50)
• Side convo about seeing celebrities "slumming it" in places like McDonald’s or Arby’s and how it normalizes them.

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3. Big Announcements & Upcoming Shows

Timestamps: 05:05–08:13

• Trisha promotes her sold-out UK Royal Albert Hall show, Netflix Is a Joke, and Trisha Cabaret in Palm Springs.
• Campaigning for an iHeartRadio award (with vote-doubling time zones explained in comically convoluted fashion).
  • "I'm in the top three... March 26th—live! I really would love to have a moment to thank everybody upstage, you know, the fans." (Trisha, 06:15)

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4. Vlogging & Social Media Dynamics

Timestamps: 08:14–10:43

• Moses and Oscar discuss their vlogging momentum, inspirations, and the struggle of letting loose online with long-running threads and ASMR typing.
• Friendly teasing about who is the “toxic influencer,” SEO-optimized vlog titles, and ASMR “nails on keys” content.

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5. Hot Topics: Pop Culture & Relationship Drama

Timestamps: 10:44–41:00

Michaela Nogueira Divorce & Love Is Blind Crossover

• Michaela Nogueira slides into Shane from Love Is Blind’s DMs after her breakup. Trisha gets (faux) outraged at the tabloids’ “stretch.”
  • “Sliding in DMZ is quietly being like, hey, like…” (Trisha, 11:46)
  • “She should be the next Bachelorette. Wouldn't that be fears—Michaela as the Bachelorette?” (Moses, 13:08)
• Talks about how people change in their 20s, fast relationships, and Trisha’s own evolution (“I was pretty pure of heart... I got corrupted by sex, work, and old men.” (Trisha, 14:42)).

Weight Loss, Body Dysmorphia & GLP-1

• Moses and Trisha discuss weight loss, body image, and “losing yourself” (and your cheeks) as you age.
  • "Everyone, when they lose weight, seems to be a little bit different, more confident, which is great." (Trisha, 15:38)
  • Their honest take on using weight-loss drugs versus “just locking in” the old-fashioned way, and why people are dishonest about it.

“Normies” vs. Fame

• Extended debate: what makes a person “normie”? Is it just being not-famous, or is it about having a simple, ‘boring’ life?
  • “I think it's a not famous person is how I'm describing—so just say that.” (Oscar, 20:09)
  • Moses teases Trisha’s “least normie life.”

Mental Health Diagnoses & Media

• Trisha and Moses contemplate being misdiagnosed as bipolar/borderline, referencing HBO’s “The Pit” and the real-life struggle of finding a correct diagnosis.

Bachelor/Bachelorette, Enemies, and “Papa’s Orchard”

• Michaela as potential “next Bachelorette”; joking about who belongs in Moses’s (symbolic) “Papa’s Orchard” (i.e., men he’d pick apples with, platonically).
  • Running joke: “Are you Papa?” — “No, it’s symbolic, Papa’s Orchard.” (29:30)

Celebrity Makeovers & Jim Carrey Clone Conspiracies

Timestamps: 58:08–63:33

• Internet meltdown over Jim Carrey’s appearance: "pickled" cheeks, filler speculation, and wild rumors of a makeup artist impersonating him.
  • “If I ever show up, like super pickled, I don't want to hear a clone ... I just got a little plumped.” (Moses, 62:22)
• Conspiracies, celebrity aging, and Oscar’s commentary on how people forget that 65-year-olds... look different.

Age-Gap Relationships

• 32-year difference between Jim Carrey and his girlfriend, compared to Tobey Maguire’s 50-year-old/19-year-old partner.
• Trisha’s graphic, comedic take on aging bodies and old men dating “dime pieces.”
  • “No matter what, gravity is real. And that just gets the best of us at a certain age. So these old men... starting at 50, to that 19-year-old, I actually just feel sad.” (Trisha, 64:38)

Tom Holland & Zendaya Secret Wedding

Timestamps: 65:29–71:59

• Law Roach “accidentally” spills news of their wedding at the SAG (now "Actor") Awards.
  • “Y'all missed it. The wedding's over.” (Law Roach via Moses, 65:36)
• Oscar shares chaos of entertainment newsroom, and debate about how fiercely private couples avoid paparazzi and media coverage.
  • “Do you think they'd want to share a photo?” (Trisha, 69:33)

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6. The Etiquette of Farting (Benny Blanco Saga)

Timestamps: 81:04–91:38

• Benny Blanco (Selena Gomez’s boyfriend) launches his podcast with a notorious episode: farting into the microphone and “dirty feet” on the set.
  • “Farting on a microphone’s crazy.” (Trisha, 81:59)
• Explores social media’s reaction, including the viral TikTok debate: is being gross more acceptable if you date someone with chronic illness (like Selena)?
  • "They're comparing her rare disease with stinky farts that you can not just go to the other room and do." (Trisha, 85:00)
  • Oscar: “Ivy said, y’all don’t understand the charm of dating a guy who is a little gross when you are a chronically ill girl…” (85:10)

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7. Drag Race, Reality TV, and Reality TV Realness

Timestamps: 91:41–97:50

• The new season of Drag Race; Benny Blanco is a controversial guest judge.
• Reality TV: House of Villains, 90 Day Fiancé’s messy cast, and why “bottom of the barrel” TV is the best for drama.
  • “I watch it and I'm like... Colton has gotten so many... and beautiful women and he is just the worst. How does he even keep himself alive? He's like this mama's boy... it's just like, how?” (Trisha, 97:10)

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8. Reunions, Competition Shows & Game Strategies

Timestamps: 101:47–106:56

• Recap and behind-the-scenes tea from Traders and Housewives reunions; why some casts are "too classy" and others bring the mess.
• Analyzing why trusting men in reality games (Traders) is risky, and why being personal is unavoidable: “I'm gonna be in alliance with someone I actually like. Like—what? Of course.” (Moses, 106:49)

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9. Book Releases & The Call Her Daddy Fallout

Timestamps: 118:49–123:51

• Sophia Franklin’s new memoir following her public split from Alex Cooper (Call Her Daddy): reactions, anticipated bombshells (“…not by the familiar hands of men, but the unexpected betrayal of another woman.” (Moses, 120:18)), and Alex Earl’s involvement.
• Trisha and Oscar admit they’re not heavily invested, but acknowledge the drama’s massive internet footprint.

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10. Food Hot Takes & Domino’s Glow-Up

Timestamps: 148:19–152:30

• McKenna Grace admits on Good Mythical Morning she’s never had a burger, pepperoni pizza, or chicken wings.
• Extended Domino’s appreciation, sauce preferences, difference between pan and hand-tossed, and why being a “normie” (aka boring, pizza-loving) is something to embrace.
  • “I’m a Normie, and I’m proud of it. … Watching Bridgerton and eating dominoes and just doing normal things.” (Trisha, 152:05)

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Notable Quotes

• "There's no such thing as bad marketing." (Trisha, 03:39)
• “If I ever show up, like, super pickled ... No, I just went to my med spa. Maybe there was a Groupon.” (Moses, 62:22)
• “No matter what, gravity is real. And that just gets the best of us at a certain age.” (Trisha, 64:38)
• “Sliding in DMZ is quietly being like, hey, like…” (Trisha, 11:46)
• “I'm trying to deter all these young girls... I'm telling you, it seems glamorous, it seems great, but ... you're just hit by the saggy, wrinkly ones, … It's just like saran wrap hit me in the face.” (Trisha, 77:23)
• “You can't just be like, I'll do this if it's this condition, don't talk about anything in the past. ... especially if he's never addressed it before.” (Trisha, 114:31)
• “There’s someone for everybody, but [Colt] couldn't have been lower, lower, bottom of the barrel as you said... and these women are obsessed with him. And I'm like, what is this world?” (Trisha, 97:10)

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Memorable Moments

• Arby’s Black Card: Trisha flexing her personal mozzarella-stick fan card (04:50).
• Jim Carrey Conspiracy: “He looked a little pickled, and that’s okay... If I ever show up, super pickled, I don’t want to hear a clone.” (58:10–62:22)
• Benny Blanco’s Fart Mic: “Farting on a microphone’s crazy.” (81:59)
• Zendaya’s Secret Wedding: The newsroom chaos triggered by Law Roach’s reveal (65:36–66:56).
• Normie vs. Not Normie: Spirited, self-deprecating debate about “boring” lives and being proud of ordinary routines (20:07–24:43; 152:02).
• Old Men Dating Young Women: Trisha’s graphic but hilarious anti-age-gap campaign (“...wrinkly balls... like, Saran Wrap hit me in the face.” 77:23).

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Quickfire Recaps

Trending Shows Mentioned:

• House of Villains, Drag Race, 90 Day Fiancé, Scream 7, Good Mythical Morning, The Pit (HBO), Traitors, Survivor

Shoutouts:

• Hilary Duff’s “mean girl” energy on Call Her Daddy (127:53–129:26)
• Plane Jane’s reality TV reactions (93:01–94:47)

Timestamps for Hot Segments:

• Jim Carrey discourse: 58:08–63:33
• Benny Blanco’s hygiene saga: 81:04–91:38
• Pop culture matchmaking (“Papa’s Orchard”): 29:11–30:19
• Sophia Franklin memoir: 118:49–123:51
• Trisha’s Domino’s debate & Normie pride: 148:19–152:30

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Episode Tone

Playful, irreverent, snarky, and deeply online—Trisha and crew bounce breezily through contemporary pop culture, speckled with self-deprecating reflections, shock humor, and a meta-awareness of their place as both insiders and outsiders in the influencer ecosystem. Nothing is taken too seriously, but harsh realities and contradictions are examined with unflinching candor.

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Useful for Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This rundown captures all major cultural moments and inside-joke energy—from Jim Carrey clone conspiracies to fast food obsessions, the messy realities of weight loss, and the etiquette of being “gross” in a public relationship. Listeners will also appreciate the candid digressions about friendship, fandoms, and the “normie” divide, all deeply embedded in the week’s biggest internet discourses.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

But they're comparing her rare disease with stinky farts that you can not just go to the other room and do like. I don't understand the comparison.

[Moses]

The realness. If you want realness for people on

[Oscar]

those side by side of his face.

[Moses]

Your cheeks. When you age, you lose weight in your cheeks. So if your cheeks are getting plumper as you age, maybe he's fatter. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then you gain weight. Your cheeks gain weight.

[Oscar]

Eyelids were, like, on top of his eyes, and now they're, like, up here.

[Moses]

He's just a little pickled. And that's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's. I disagree strongly. Her name is trish.

[Moses]

Hello.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's March. It's March. It's March. My favorite. It's my favorite month. It's my favorite month. Today I was inspired by just the luck of the Irish, the luck of the Trish, the leprechauns, if you will. We love luck. I feel like the luckiest girl sometimes. Do you feel like the luckiest girl in the world?

[Moses]

Luck. Or something like it. The album by Hilary Duff on streaming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that the name? Wow. She's aligned to luck, too. Or just my Lux.

[Moses]

Oh, Lindsay Lohan. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or Luck of the Irish, The Disney Channel original movie. Yes.

[Moses]

With Ryan Merriman. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

We asked Ali and AJ about. Because I really like them in Smart House, too. I love it. See's Candy has Irish cream back in stock. Which Moses stocked up on that. We have two boxes upstairs. You like it. You're a fan.

[Moses]

What is an Irish cream? I don't. I don't think I've had any Irish cream in my life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never like a Bailey's Irish cream?

[Moses]

No. Never even hooked up with an Irish man in my time, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

Yeah. So no Irish cream at all? Nothing against it. I just. I just. I've never come across Irish cream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Patreon. We should do an Irish corned beef.

[Moses]

An Irish cream or an Irish man.

[Trisha Paytas]

Either one. Well, I guess, you know. Yes. No Irish man. But the Irish cream at CK Andes is worth it. The Shamrock Shake. We tried that.

[Moses]

Yeah, I think I liked it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Big Arch Burger.

[Moses]

I saw a headline of it, but I don't even know what the Big Arch Burger is, mama.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you like burgers for McDonald's?

[Moses]

I prefer a nugget, but I can get down with the burger. From McDonald's. Yeah. Why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Nuggets are better. Protein. Yeah. You like the burgers? Yeah.

[Oscar]

Is it a big. Like, there's one burger that they say is not frozen and they make it fresh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, this is a new one. This is their big arch one.

[Oscar]

And I saw the CEO.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, he made me want to try it. His disgust for it was like, let me see what this is. And honestly, I want to try it. It looks good. Everyone's been trying it. Everyone's been paring it. Now, you know, honestly, like, all marketing is good marketing, because I don't care if they're like, this burger has lasted 100 years. Like, I want to try the burger that can last 100 years. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I want to try anything. There's no. There's no such thing as bad marketing. So I don't know if this was a genius move or whatever, but what did you do then?

[Moses]

He just. He was disgusting. I saw from. From you. You were like, my pop crave. You were tweeting about this.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did I say?

[Moses]

You, quote, tweeted something about the McDonald's. You were on a tweet storm, by the way. You couldn't even. You couldn't stop her from tweeting. Like, my God, there was threads. There was like, all these Hot Topics.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, damn, the thread was confusing.

[Moses]

I was trying to catch up. I'm like, okay, she's clocking this, weighing in on this.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, you know, I had a lot to say, and everybody was asleep because what happened was I took a nap at, like, 4pm and I woke up at, like, 7. So then everyone's like, at 8pm, everyone's like, let's go to bed, which I usually love. And so everyone's asleep. Like, literally everyone's passed out. Malibu missed her nap year. Like, everyone's just passed out, like, 8:30. And I had a lot to say, and I had a lot to talk about with people, and I just had a lot of energy. And that's why I love Twitter for that reason, because, you know, people just. They want to hear what I have to say. It's so funny because people don't want to hear what I have to say. I literally get a thousand views on Twitter. It's my floppiest. I want to delete it because it's so embarrassing to flop, but I love it.

[Moses]

I think it's so pure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, too. It's kind of like just go into the abyss, like, just nobody really cares. And I just had a lot to say, say. And I don't know what I said about the CEO, but. Oh, well, basically the whole thing was just that he. He looked like he did not like it. Well, he basically was like, you know, calling it A product which is crazy. He's like, we tested this product. I'm like, the burger, like, you know what I mean? So he just looked. He took a little bite. You know, he wasn't giving. He wasn't like, this is the burger. It was just, I like it. I ate it. You know, it was giving that. But, you know, we'll try. I'm under no exclusivity with anybody, but I will say not sponsored. I did go somewhere this morning. I don't even know if the number on front matters. I think maybe the number on back. I'm covering it as if it matters. I got an Arby's black card.

[Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they sent this to me today, and I went to go try it this morning, and the guy was like, I've never seen one of these. He's like. I'm like, I hope it works.

[Oscar]

It is one of a kind. It says, it's only made for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It says, Trisha. Yeah. And then it's on the back. It says, to the number one mozzarella stick fan, Trish Brady Stackman. Never expires. No fees.

[Moses]

The concept of you leaking your Arby's black card is so furious.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. That's why. Well, this just says, but there are numbers on this side, and I'm scared I'm gonna leak it. But it has my name on it, has everything. So I did go there, but I. You know, I. I'm. I. I like to try everything that's around, and I have. I haven't been to McDonald's in a while, but it's been a while. Anyways. No, but then we forgot to do the intro, so. Thank you, guys. Guess what? All the general tickets are sold out for the uk, so. Uk? You wanted to see me? Royal Albert Hall. I'm so excited. It's gonna be so, so much fun. But there's VIP packages available, so if you want to get tickets, you can get through there. There's a few. It's like 95% gone, so come see me. It's gonna be really good. Also, I heart radio words. I don't know why I said that way, but. Draco. Mel. Okay. My hair day. You asked me first. It was like Kris Jenner was like, my original Ispo. It wasn't giving Kris. Then I was looking at it. I was like, oh, it's giving a little princess die, which I like. But then I realized my competition at the iHeartRadio Awards is the one and only Draco Malfoy. And I was channeling it without realizing it. So that was my promo for today. It was just red hair, hand me down robes. You must be a Weasley. That was my acting to say that I could act better than Tom felt as Draco Malfoy. So vote for me for that. Heart Radio Awards. I'm in the top three. I think I got pushed down. I think she Porter Queen, obviously. Queen. We love her. She does all the great voice Lessons on TikTok. Loved her debut in and Juliet. But, you know, I'm gonna still gone. I'm still go. I'm still going for it, you know. March 26th live, with all the award shows happening, I just really would love to have a moment to thank everybody upstage, you know, the fans. I really been thinking about it. So I would love to win. I would love to win an award. It would be amazing. But, you know.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Set your clock to 5pm Western Time. It's always double. The vote is double.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, got it. East, Western, Pacific. Pacific. Is that the same as Western time?

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never heard it called Western time

[Oscar]

because that one is Eastern. Right. I call it that.

[Moses]

I think it is just called Pacific Standard Time. But yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't know if there's like, Western, like Asia or the Western civilization. Like, I don't know, you know, like

[Oscar]

East Coast, West Coast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Oscar]

West coast time.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. West coast time.

[Moses]

Yes. Okay, so 8:00pm Eastern, 7:00pm Central, 5:00pm Pacific Standard Time. What is it, 2:00pm Hawaiian Time? Tana, if you're in Hawaii, 2:00pm for

[Trisha Paytas]

you, make sure you vote. Wow.

[Oscar]

I guess your vote is double. You can make up for lost time. So.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Don't stop. Won't stop. I just, you know, I think we were at number one. I think we. We did go down. Meg Donnelly just made her finale last night as the team, so she might be, you know, also getting, you know, everyone could get. Anyone could win, honestly. It could be Neo from Hell's Kitchen. It could be Ashley Graham from Chicago. It could be anybody. So just keep us strong. You can check the leaderboards every day at iHeartRadio Awards, and I'm really going strong for it. And other than that, Netflix is a joke May 5th and Trisha Cabaret Palm Springs May 9th. Come see me. And that's it for me. How about you, Oscar? Where can we find you on the Internet?

[Moses]

Oh, well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or live wherever. Wherever you're gonna be. Yeah, you're like, I'll be true.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably every day at the AMC at some point. Yeah, you'll be there I will be

[Moses]

at the AMC this weekend. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Moses]

Oh, my vlog. Today, Tuesday. It's up. Yes. You inspired me to finally do the edit because I was, like, shading. I was like, a month is too long, girl. And here I am, like, just over weeks. So I crossed the deadline. I know. So you pushed me. I was like, let me lock in. So I took an Adderall over the weekend, and I was like, let me lock in. Let me go to editing. I was. I was. Are you. I feel like you must have had a reaction gif at some point of you just, like, on the computer. So I need to find that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely. I've done, like, how you type with, like, long nails.

[Moses]

Yes. Like an asmr, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I've done it. I've done lots of ASMR typing.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure.

[Moses]

So that was me. I was really channeling you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Locked in. Which is funny, because you inspired me. I was like, I should vlog because your vlogs. Your vlogs crush it. Like, when Oscar's vlogging. I was like, your vlogs get more my vlogs. Like, I feel like you should keep vlogging. And then when you stopped, I was like, well, there's room. I'll. I'll be a vlogger. Now I'm really pushing mine, too. Shout out Jimmy for editing my vlog. 51 minutes. I really thought I had nothing. That's why I did the whole month, because I'm like, oh, I just vlog a couple minutes here and there. 51 minutes.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It's a full episode of a show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thumbnail Looks like Mr. Reaction. I love it. Maybe we'll experiment with it. I love it. It's doing great. But go check out Oscars. Is it just Oscar, Gracie?

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the vlog called?

[Moses]

It's a working title. Right now. I was trying to figure out a way to, like, you know, for the SEO of it all. I was trying to, like, how do I put everything in the title? So I was thinking something like, Trisha Paytas, Michaela Naguera, and my boyfriend are influencing me to be a toxic influencer. Working title.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's good.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Long. So the longs are good. The longs are better.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting. Okay.

[Moses]

I like that one because it is my Nintendo store haul. And I was channeling. I was playing a Michaela's purse.

[Trisha Paytas]

100%.

[Moses]

I'm playing Michaela Nogueira's purse.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like, I'm just going to spend the money and show.

[Moses]

I blacked out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you say that?

[Moses]

Yeah, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Moses]

Yeah. She. I was possessed by the spirit of Michaela Naguera. But no lash gate, no divorce, no looking hot for Valentine's Day. No. Come with me to Santa Weeny Greece.

[Trisha Paytas]

An opportunity. You had so many. You could have done a whole Michaela vlog. Honestly, I know an icon. She should vlog. I would. I would watch her.

[Moses]

Tik toks are kind of. Yeah, true. I kind of need long form of her.

[Oscar]

Hot topics today.

[Moses]

Oh, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

It's always a hot topic around.

[Oscar]

This is a deep dive, though. It's like, do you remember Shane from.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shane Dawson? Yes. No, I used to be friends with him.

[Oscar]

Shane from. Was it 19? Was he on? No. Life is Blind. Is that what he was on?

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea who this is

[Oscar]

because he looked like he aged 10 years a year of all hooks.

[Trisha Paytas]

You see Instagram, growth people.

[Moses]

You see tick tock and growth people.

[Oscar]

So he's talking about Michaela. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa, he looks so different.

[Oscar]

But guess who's sliding in his dms. Michaela, the new divorcee. So Michelle's in there, she's like, this is iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then he's immediately sliding in the dms.

[Oscar]

Wait, but he's like high queen. Adding you now so often. I've never seen her, you know, communicating to single guys out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's a stretch. That's a little fake news right there.

[Oscar]

This is literally. Receipts are here. What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

No sliding in. DMZ is quietly being like, hey, like,

[Moses]

you want, like, tea channels. That was like the AI voice.

[Oscar]

Divorced because of Shane with a single divorce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Say, a certain divorce. It's like, yeah, she's like a blind item. But I'm not blind and not the right item. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

But I'm saying, like, you can see that there's a shift. Yeah, she's single.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you know what? Like, she said it was a couple months ago, they made the decision, and it could have been like, a long time coming. When people get into new relationships, like, I'm the first person to judge. I'd be like, oh, my God, you just got. But it's like, if it's been a long time coming and the marriage is like, Catherine and Austin, they said that they were, like, not intimate for, like, years, you know, like three years. At the end of their marriage, it's like, yeah, I think, like, you just are. You're probably done. You're probably checked out before you even.

[Oscar]

Sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Separate, you know, happy for her.

[Moses]

It doesn't Sound like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Judgy. Like a recent divorce. Say which I don't know. She's divorced. We don't know she is divorced.

[Oscar]

I'm trying to hype up the hot topic.

[Moses]

Okay, well, it's too funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm team. I'm team Michaela. I can never say anything against her. I love her and not him, though, girl. Not him. Oh, my God. I think I'd rather go for Tom Brady than that guy from Love is Blind.

[Oscar]

The funny thing I didn't even recognize. It was like, who is this guy?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't either. I remember he had, like, blonde hair. He was, like, kind of cute. He was a little. A little manic on the show, but he's kind of cute. That's.

[Moses]

She should be the next Bachelorette. Wouldn't that be fears Michaela as the Bachelorette I would really be seeing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

I'd be so seated.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, please. That's so good. Well, I feel like the Taylor Frank Paul one will do.

[Moses]

Good.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the liberalized influencers. Michaela be on the Bachelor.

[Moses]

That would be so fierce. I'm so curious about, like, what her type is. I honestly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

I kind of just saw what Cody looks like for the first time, like. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You followed her this whole time? You never knew.

[Moses]

I have no. I don't even follow her. I just. She pops up whenever she is causing a little a stir.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And then I watch her and Cody. I've never seen, like, Cody. I'm like, oh, he's cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is cute.

[Moses]

He's cute. And I'm so. But I'm so curious to see, like, her type. Like, would she want.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Just try something different. Like, because she. If you're with. How long have they been together? A long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they met five years ago. They said they met in quarantine. I think they were married two years.

[Moses]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So, yeah. I mean, that's a long time, though, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

So I wonder if she watched her before. I remember her going on dates. Like, I remember her when she was single. So I think it was like late 2020 or maybe 2021. Because I remember when she was, like, going out. I remember how fast it moved, which is like, all for it. We moved fast, too. When you're young. I think it's like, so, so hard when you're young to move fat. Not hard. It's very easy. I think it's like, maybe not the smartest when you're young, you know? Right. Because it's just like, you change so Much. Obviously there was, I mean we don't know anything about their marriage but like obviously there's other issues. But I think just change so much. Even if you're like perfect people, I think perfect people also just change. They're just different people. Like I feel like I was. No, not me. I was not perfect. But I feel like there's a lot of. Maybe like I think I was pretty perfect. But even from like 30 to 31 was a big change. 31 to 30, you know what I mean? Like I was like such a, a different person. I think I started out good and pure. I think at like 18, 19, 20. And I think it's like I got corrupted by sex, work and old men. I think it was like this like vicious ring because I think like I was pretty pure of heart. When I look back at like my 20 year old no lip self, I was like, oh, she was excited about life. And then I think life kind of whatever. But I think that's the whole point is like you just, you just change so much, right?

[Moses]

Yeah, I think so. Not me, but I guess for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you been the same? Wait, really?

[Moses]

No, I like the same stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

The same. Lived in the same place.

[Trisha Paytas]

You had a little whole phase you've talked about?

[Moses]

Oh yeah, like when I, I mean, but I always wanted to be. It's just that no one wanted me when I was like, no, just really big. I was like over 300 pounds. I would have hoed myself out willy nilly, but I could, I didn't have the change.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, I think you like big, Oscar. Like even though you're the same, I think like when you lose weight, I think you become a little bit of a different person, not like for worse. Tell me if I'm wrong because I've never lost weight. So you can tell me. But like right, Everyone when they lose weight seems to be a little bit different, more confident, which is great.

[Moses]

I think it depends. I think it depends because I like had that body dysmorphia, tease where like even though I was skinny, I always thought it was big as a house. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I know. So then why? Because people love, especially the gay community, loves a big guy, loves a big girl. Like I've never. So you wouldn't have had any issue being a hoe when you were bigger?

[Moses]

No, it's a certain type of big in the gay community. It's like you have to be tall and big because then your weight is distributed a little bit better. But when you're small and big, you just look like a little meatball. And it's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you could have had your whole era, but I think maybe you and your head thought you couldn't, so you held it back subconsciously. I know you've had the confidence. We've seen you dance, but I feel like, me to psychoanalyzing you, I'm like, no, no. I think the. I think everyone gets a little bit more confidence when you lose weight.

[Moses]

A little. A little. But I think in the gay world, too, like, you're constantly, like, exposed to people who are, like, so much hotter. Like, everyone's got a better. I mean, girl world too, of course. Like, yeah, you're, like, surrounded. Like, no matter how good you look, you're always gonna, like, compare yourself to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because, like, I always had the confidence, and I still do, but I know if I was, like, 120, like, couldn't even talk to me, be like, I'm literally the hottest girl. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, I don't know. But I. I don't know. I'll let you know if I ever get there. But I just. Okay, fair enough. So, wow. How about you? You've been the same where you changed?

[Oscar]

Changed a lot. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

How are you in your early 20s? How do you describe yourself?

[Oscar]

I was much more restless, but also. But also, you know, like, moving to a new country. Like, it. There was such a huge transformation in the environment, not myself. And then once I moved to a new place, I could kind of rediscover myself. So I feel like I wasn't myself until I left and kind of was on my own for a long time to shed a lot of things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think we would have been a good couple if I was 22 and you were 22 at the same time?

[Oscar]

On my end, yes. I don't think on your.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think on your end either.

[Oscar]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

You just said you had to, like, discover yourself. I don't think you would have been able to, like, hold it down like you do now.

[Oscar]

No, but I think in the sense of, like, what we're looking for. But what? But, yeah, because I think you were serious about relationships. Like, you wanted a real relationship to be with one person. And so that part is what I always wanted. But. But yeah, it's true. Like, my problem probably wouldn't be. Back then, I was more or less capable of just loving unconditionally. It's probably more conditional.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You thought you wanted an artsy type, an artist, a fellow artist.

[Oscar]

Well, in general, I think what we think we want is not good for us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that is a common thing. I think that's true. Mikayla, if you're listening, just know and anyone honestly, like what you think you want if it hasn't been working out for you. Mikayla's young. Honestly, like go through 5,000 more relationships because you're so young, but if it hasn't working out, you go against your not even physical type, but just type in general. You know what I mean? It's. I, I think I quote, tweeted this on my little spree that I did on Saturday night. I think I said something along the lines. It's like, oh gosh, I did tweet a lot. Oh God. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah, the CEO. Okay, Okay. I don't know, maybe I deleted it. I was like, oh, someone's like, okay, what? Go ahead. Sorry, I don't know.

[Oscar]

But I'm saying like the. It's not Normie. I don't think it's the word because the last thing I would describe myself or people around me, my life would be Normie. I think what you, what you were aiming for when you were young is region famous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes.

[Oscar]

If you're not, if you're not rich and famous, you're not Normie. That's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, like a normal person.

[Oscar]

No, but that's what I'm saying. I think, I think you think anyone that's not famous is normal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, cuz famous people are not normal.

[Oscar]

A lot of people that are not famous.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you're not not normal. You're not. You're normal. I'm normal.

[Oscar]

Like we're normal people are from. I don't know how many people identify as water or did the things I've done in my life or an artist, eccentric but normal. No, I think, I think your definition of normal is not famous.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's your definition of you?

[Oscar]

I don't have one. But I'm just saying, like when you say Normie, people look at it in a different way.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just think it's a not famous person is how I'm describing.

[Oscar]

So just say that because. Because you're confusing people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think so. I don't think anyone's confused.

[Oscar]

So do you think Normie is everyone that's not famous?

[Moses]

I think Normie like a Joe Schmo, like just a guy who is kind of boring, like very plain. That's why when you say Normie, it's like, go for the boring.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's it. But boring's not bad. Simple schmuck is crazy.

[Moses]

Well, that's what Normie implies.

[Oscar]

That's what I'm saying. You don't want to because you don't want to offend people by that too, because it's almost like, who am I offending, Moses? Or mostly, you don't want to confuse people.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

apartment and that you have the least normie life now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like it's so normal this weekend. Ever. I can't remember. What did you do this weekend? Like we played outside in the park, went to Getty, went and had spaghetti. Like that rhymed right?

[Moses]

But then you're like a TMZ is at LAX interviewing you. You're performing at Royal Alberta Hall. You're filming shows. You're wearing this little wig right now and filming you wear Wigs. Yeah. But I'm not here saying I'm the normie girl. Like, you're, like. You're advocating yourself as a normie girl. I would like normie representation. I don't think you're the normie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Think I hate Montana, where I have that normie lifestyle. And then I think, put the wig on and I'm. You know. But I do think I. I have quite a normie life. Yeah, I love it. I love it. But that's also just maybe, like, bipolar.

[Moses]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I was once diagnosed bipolar and given lithium, but that wasn't right for me. So then I was like, maybe I'm not bipolar. Here's a question for you. If you are diagnosed wrongly, but how do you know? Because I've been diagnosed bipolar before. I was diagnosed borderline. So my bipolar, borderline.

[Moses]

Well, I am kind of in my medical era because I've been watching a lot of the Pit on hbo, and.

[Oscar]

And they won, so it must be true.

[Trisha Paytas]

They did.

[Moses]

It's a very good show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exciting.

[Moses]

Yes. And they are. They do have. One of their patients is. Has some kind of mental illness, and they're like, well, it could be schizophrenia. It could be bipolar. But you don't know until you give. You test, like, different medications, and you gotta. It takes a while to get, like, properly diagnosed. You got to see which medication is working and then you can diagnose. So that's kind of the tea. And I believe the Pit is medically accurate. So. Is it? I think they get, like, real doctors to consult on the script, is what I heard. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that makes sense, because I was wondering that I was like. Well, technically, I could say I was bipolar, because a doctor did tell me that one time.

[Moses]

Yeah. So that's why with mental illness, this, like, there's so many misdiagnose sees, misdiagnosis, diagnoses. Because, yeah, you can't. Like, it takes a while to, you know, see how medication is affecting it, and then you can kind of see the test. It's like, you can't just, you know, do one exam and then get to the bottom of it. Like, you have to test with different medications and stuff. Thank you, Dr. Santos from the Pit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that the name?

[Moses]

What's their name? Come on. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never heard that name.

[Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you like, wait, is that your fave, Dr. Santos?

[Moses]

I think so. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Something we learn every day here. Apology to the normies if I offended anyone. Oh, my gosh. I didn't know it was Such an offense. Sorry. To my husband. Didn't know I was offending. I. Sorry. Let me identify as one of you. That's what I wanted. That's all I want to do. Where did that even come from?

[Moses]

Michaela. Bachelorette.

[Oscar]

Dating advice, dating life.

[Moses]

Yeah. What Moses is blind item.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right, right, right, right.

[Moses]

It originated.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd love to see her.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should only do the Bachelorette. I feel we don't need to see men dating 25 women. That's ick. But women do it.

[Moses]

But the good thing about the Bachelor is you do get to be introduced to a lot of girls. Like, think about it. We wouldn't have Gabby Wendy if it wasn't for the Bachelor.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she's, like, the only one.

[Moses]

No, there's some good. I mean, I couldn't name them, but I'm. I'm sure people in the comments would be like, no, this girl's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, so would like to believe it, but I don't know. You know, like, we got Colton Underwood. It's like, I don't know about that,

[Moses]

but he was from the Bachelorette, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

He was the Bachelor.

[Moses]

I know, but wasn't he originally in the batch? Like, in the Bachelorette?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

So technically, you're almost introduced to more diabolical men from the Bachelorette.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nick Vile.

[Moses]

Yeah, see? So a lot of enemies of the show. Originally from the batch. Lorette.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, It's March. It's lucky month. We need no enemies because we only need luck come our way. No more enemies.

[Moses]

Let me just make sure I have none in here.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are enemy. Free enemies in here, actually.

[Moses]

Yeah, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I love everybody again. I think I'm back on the Everything is good because honestly.

[Moses]

Yeah, me too. I mean, I even sent you former enemy turned lover, Harry Jowsey.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is a wild.

[Moses]

It was wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I saw a tick tock of him and another. A gay tick tocker. I think his name is me forgetting his name. I think his name was Carter or something. I know he did a video with Joey graceffa. Wait, now it's gonna bother me recently. No. Like, when I was working with him. I love how.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses]

You're such a Twitter girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Well, I was like, I tweeted a lot of. A lot of Hot Topics over the weekend.

[Oscar]

I always thought she's this tweeter to basically message you. Like, when she tweets, there's a way for her to message you and for you to see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, that's actually very true. And I only message Oscar on Twitter. I don't mess with anyone else.

[Moses]

It's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah. I will. Only I send tweets to you, Jimmy and Darian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

Willy Nilly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. No, I love it, too. You're the only one who messaged me on there. I love it.

[Moses]

But Harry Jowsey collab with. With Scott Crest like a tiktoker. And it was. I rented a boyfriend for 24 hours featuring Harry Jowsey. And Harry was, like, very sweet to Scott Kress, who is, like, just so fiercely gay. And I was like, you know what, Harry Chausy? You might have an invitation to pick apples at Papa's Orchard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I don't know what that means.

[Moses]

I really think he's a contender to come to Papa's Orchard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what's Papa's Orchard? What is Papa's.

[Moses]

I love. I'm contemplated every time I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, we have Dr. On it before. No.

[Moses]

Like, four times. What? Yes. A lot. I. There's a few men who have been invited to Papa's wardrobe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you Papa?

[Moses]

No. My. It's my. I guess the symbolic. Symbolic Papa's Orchard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah. It's like, I have no romantic feelings for you, but I have the urge to pick some apples and Papa's Orchard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Who else is in there?

[Moses]

It was David, corn sweats 10 Nivison, and now I guess Harry Jowsey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

What if the white man over at Papa's Orchard, I was like, that's a

[Trisha Paytas]

very specific type of person. Okay, we know your type. Crazy. Okay. So you. He's won you over.

[Moses]

He has. Because he was so, like, sweet and funny. He was like. He seemed. I don't know. Harry Jowsey always kind of gave me the ick. And this is the first time I was like, oh, there's something kind of endearing about you, Harry Jowsey.

[Trisha Paytas]

He.

[Moses]

And maybe it's just the luck of the Irish, you know? Like, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he Irish?

[Moses]

No, he's Australian. But I'd say maybe the little leprechauns are, like, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

Putting a little love in the air.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is. Right. Valentine's Day, but. Right. I'm trying to get the correlation, too, because I'm also on this train of no hate.

[Moses]

It's no hate.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's leprechaun month. Oh, there it is. It's too late now, though.

[Moses]

You.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. You have till March 10th to get that photo. Yeah. You can still sign up.

[Oscar]

This is the last.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is the last month. We are sending out physical mailers. So no more headshots, no more stickers for the time being. But we are looking to replace that with some digital content for you guys. But feel free if you are in the headshot tier or the producer tier, to either pause it or go down to one of the other tiers or stay at that tier. We're looking to get some digital perks over there because Mama's busy. It's hard for me to keep up signing those headshots because I can sign a whole stack of headshots and they'll be on the floor or they'll be scribbled through by the kids. And I'm like, no, because it's like, not. You know, I'm doing it. I am doing it all. And then it's just like, so defy the time where little fingerprints aren't getting them.

[Moses]

Get Malibu to start sending them. Why is this kind of tea a tier where Malibu was?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we have thousands of those photos, so if you guys want those. And I used to make little cards for the show, so that was part of the tier. And it's just like. That's not so. You know, we're just doing a little pause. We love you guys. So this is the last month. It's not that mime. I have the new one. I should give you the new one. It's not the mime. It's the Margaret Wuthering Heights ones. That's on our Just Trish Instagram. But yes. New era. I like that cup. Where'd you get it from your. Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. Did you show it or are you just drinking out of it? Oh, that's not your mug.

[Oscar]

I was gonna show this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what's in there?

[Oscar]

Soon. I'm waiting for the Mandalorian to come back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it coming back?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

A movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

You seated for it? No, but how do you know about it?

[Moses]

Because I know what movies are coming out this year.

[Oscar]

You didn't like any of the Mandalorian?

[Moses]

No, I'm not a Star wars girl, which is kind of surprising because I love everything, like, kind of sci fi, but I think I just don't like space, to be honest.

[Oscar]

What about Pedro Pascal? That's his best work.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't love a Peter Pascal.

[Moses]

I love Pedro in, like, the Last of Us, Fantastic Four, etc. Yeah, but even he can't get me into space. Yeah, I'm just not a space kind of girl. Ryan Gosling is also in a Star wars movie.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Moses]

He can't get me into space. He's in an astronaut movie coming out this month. I will see it because Darian really wants to see it, But I just don't live for a space.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I don't think I've seen

[Moses]

a space movie someone's gonna come out with.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but I don't think I've seen one.

[Moses]

I don't think I see Cosplay as the Mandalorian. Right. Or something. Star Wars. But you didn't see

[Oscar]

was Halloween.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you were. She was Baby Yoda. He was the Mandalorian. I'm just some stormtrooper. Yeah. I was like, I don't think I fit into this Halloween costume, but I made myself. That's a good Halloween costume. If you don't get recognized, just put a little helmet on you.

[Moses]

That's why I don't even think Pedro is in the movie. I think he's probably just gonna be

[Trisha Paytas]

the void face, but he's kind of not. Right. Is that the team?

[Oscar]

I think in this trailer, you see his face all the time. So they must have been like, okay, we need to show him to bring more people.

[Moses]

Because the last season, it was just his voice. Yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

Just towards the end. There was a moment at the end that they showed him in the show. But basically, if you show your face, you can't be a Mandalorian anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why?

[Oscar]

Because you're not supposed to reveal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

Your identity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

That's the normie life for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't say that word. I don't think you'd appreciate it that much. I saw Weapons one last night.

[Moses]

Yeah, Gladys. It was the Actor Awards, formerly known as the SAG Awards.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why they change it?

[Moses]

That's a great question. I mean, it was always the actor. Like, the actor goes to whoever. But it's kind of late in the game to be. Just be changing your. To be rebranding like that. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also sounds fake. The actor.

[Moses]

I know, right? It's like the most generic name ever. Like. Yeah, the Actor Award.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I won the actor award for best actor.

[Moses]

Yeah. It's like, a little repetitive.

[Trisha Paytas]

So are you seated for it or.

[Moses]

No, I was forced to be seated for it at the office from 2 to 10pm so. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What'd you eat?

[Moses]

Thing? They had pizza. They brought pizza for us. But the problem is I always, like, I'm too locked in, so I don't even know when the food is there. And then by the time I realize the food is all gone because, you know, the girls are hungry in the office. So I learned to just, like, order my Own.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are people hungry? I wondered that now with everyone being on, like, GLP ones like that, I'm like, I wonder if people run to.

[Moses]

I think the normies. The normies. The normies are still eating. Yeah, but, like, the girls on the. On the red carpet were looking teeny tiny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean. Yeah, I think that. What. We talk about this all the time. I think there is. I think you can say when there's too skinny. I think you can say. I don't think that's offensive.

[Moses]

I always battle with it, too, because you just. Yeah. I don't know. You don't want to trigger anybody. But I do think it also is important to be like that Also, like, isn't normal to look like, like, completely.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's amazing. You're right.

[Moses]

So it's like one of those things, right? It's like, you want to have some decor on, but you also want to, like, let people know. No, like, this isn't goals. You know what I mean? Like, this shouldn't be your now.

[Oscar]

But we have so much experience with Eugenia. Like, she's basically.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. People are so quick to come for her. But, like, all the people. There are people in the red carpet who look just like Eugenia. And I'm like, well, people don't ever say it because it is a whole thing. Like, don't say anything about anyone's body. And I'm like, I'm caught. You know, I'm with you guys on that. I am with you. But having dogs, daughters, I don't want them to be like, well, I'm not that skinny. I need to be skinnier. And we see that even with thin girls. I know in my real life, we know some that are, like, normies, and they're, like, on GLP ones, and they're. They're, like, already been thin. They've been thin as long as I've known them. And I'm like, what do you mean? You're on a GLP1? Like, it's. It's wild. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I do know they're too skinny.

[Moses]

I know. Yeah, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think it's. I think that. I think that's okay to say.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah. I think you just don't want to, like, normalize it too much and be like, it's. Yeah. It's such a moral quandary because you don't want to, you know, trigger anybody. But you'd also want to make sure people know that, you know, this isn't the normal aspirational look or weight, you

[Trisha Paytas]

know, so Kelly Osborne does a good job saying that because she does say she's, like, grieving and going through like, all, like, really hard times. Like, I think she's, like, like, acknowledging she's not well because you're, like, you don't look well, and she's. Well, I'm not. So I think that she does a pretty good job. I guess there's that discussion of, like, should she be at a red carpet? Then it's like, I don't know. I guess she's, like, accepting things on behalf of her dad.

[Moses]

But I know because. Yeah. So Sunday were the SAG Awards. Saturday were the Brit Awards. I was surprised you didn't present at that, considering you're in your British era, but I'm surprised, too. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They didn't ask me. I performed there next time. All the performances.

[Moses]

I was like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, his was good.

[Moses]

But, yeah, Kelly Osborne and Sharon Osborne went to the Brit Awards to accept an award for Ozzy.

[Trisha Paytas]

How did they go to both?

[Moses]

They weren't at the actor awards. They were at the Brit Awards.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was like, how were they there? Okay, got it. I guess you could.

[Moses]

And, yeah, they just. I mean, Kelly and Sharon, too, both look, like, just so thin. And obviously everyone was commenting on Kelly's weight. And then, yeah, she posted her Instagram story in the midst of everyone speaking out about how she looks. She said, there is a special kind of cruelty in harming someone who is clearly going through something, kicking me while I'm down, doubting my pain, spreading my struggles as gossip, and turning your back when I need support and love most. None of it proves strength. It only reveals a profound absence of compassion and character. I'm currently going through the hardest time in my life. I should not even have to defend myself. But I won't sit here and allow myself to be dehumanized in such a way. Which. Yeah, I mean, at least she's open about her, like, mental health struggles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I.

[Moses]

This is one where, like. Because I know with Ariana, I was like. I think a lot of people were just hating her and, like, like, commenting on her body as, like, with malicious intent. I do think there is some good intent with the Kelly Osborne one just because it is so, like, kind of an inarguable, you know, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And it's so blatant.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's also saying she's struggling. So then it's like, oh, well, that's. I think that's customer Concern all of it. The way her saying that. Because you're just like, are you okay?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is. She's not.

[Moses]

Yeah. And there's a mission and there's some girls who, like, are naturally already kind of thinner. Like, I think Ariana is naturally, like, her way obviously is fluctuating about her career, but naturally she is like a smaller petite person. Whereas, like, Kelly, we've seen, like, she was curvier at one point, you know, so that whole element, too. She has said before last year that she, like, is not on Ozempic or anything. She said. She says that the key to her weight loss is just like getting herself in a good. Obviously pre Aussie step.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Getting herself in a good mental health space. Like, I. Once I got my mental health in a good space, that's when I started losing the weight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Which.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

I think Sharon has been. Said that she's, you know, been on a. On Ozempic or one of the GLP1.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And has also said that, like, she couldn't gain weight again after being on it, you know, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait. Oh, she said she could not?

[Moses]

Yeah. Like, she, like, was just, like, losing so much. She lost so much weight and. Yeah, I couldn't, like, gain the weight.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always thought it was like the opposite of like, Oprah. When she's, like, done with the GLP one, she. I need it for the rest of my life.

[Moses]

It's just different body types. Like, it's just being used for people who don't actually need it because they're not, like, medically. If you're not, like, medically obese.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

You don't have that, like, in your family, like, in your health. Like, I don't know, like, I inherited that from, like, it's in my genes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You know, so, like, that's why it's not affecting me. Crazy. But you don't. If you don't medically need it, then obviously it's going to affect you in a different way.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's like you're hungry, right? Your stomach is. I'm big, okay? I'm big. If for my. For my audio only listeners, I am overweight. I am 250 pounds. No, I'm 240. 240 pounds, 5 foot 3. And like, like I'm overweight and it's like my stomach, it's just. It's just expanded. Like, I eat considerably more than I did when I was like 180 because my stomach is expanded. So, like, how do you just stop from being hungry?

[Moses]

Because it's like, it is possible for sure. It's just easier and more accessible because of GLP ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, like, you just starve then, like, you're just hungry.

[Moses]

You can definitely eat. Like, you can. You just eat really boring meals, smaller portions. And you eat like, like, I think they say you eat five times a day, but smaller meals and it's like bland, boring stuff. But like, you can mentally get to a place where, like, you're fine with the bland, boring food, but we're just.

[Trisha Paytas]

So how does it switch? Like, how does it switch?

[Moses]

I think it just takes a long time. And also, like, there are people with like, food addictions and stuff too, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think when you get that big as a big person, I think there is a food addiction involved. I think that's the only way you get that big. So how do you how do you just turn off?

[Moses]

That's a great question. I think you would. I mean, also someone with a lot of. Have resources, like a jelly roll, too, where you can, like, find, you know, coaches or, like, nutritionists, dietitian, chefs, you know, that also is like a big. A big thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

So interesting.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, if you say so, because I believe you.

[Moses]

I mean, it's, like, hard to believe, but like, even like my mom, like, I mean, she would do with Old Fashioned Way, which was Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig Honey, you know, like, there was no GLP ones, but she would. Would, like, her weight would fluctuate a lot. But, like, when she locked in, you know, doing it the old fashioned, boring way, counting those points, you know, with

[Trisha Paytas]

her food, would she have. What. Do you know what her biggest was?

[Moses]

Oh, like maybe two, like, 220 or something. And she's also, like, short. Like, she's like a petite girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I just feel. Yeah, okay. I just got 500 to go from 500, like 170 is insane.

[Moses]

I know, but he also. Jelly roll. I'm not trying to, like, come to his friends or anything, but at least his was also, like, over quite a long period of time. Like, it was like two, ish. Two, three years for him.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's amazing, and I think it's great. I just think it's like, I just don't, like when people are not, like, honest. Like, when people are big, their whole lives and GLP ones come around and, like, I just locked in. But GLP ones are a thing now.

[Moses]

Like, I logged in when I lost a lot of weight, but I locked in with the help of Adderall.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you said you were, like, depressed or something. You said in the past, like, you said you were going through something.

[Moses]

No, I was fueled by revenge. But I would. I wasn't depressed. I was just wanting to. Yeah, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you were on, like, anxiety medication. Is that what you said Adderall for?

[Moses]

Yeah. Add, But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, there you go. I think. And that. That does have something in it, because I know people took out 80.

[Moses]

Yeah. It's like, makes your metabolism just be something fierce. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that definitely helped me feel like there's always a little something that people maybe don't say. My gut. I think if you can lock in, maybe. Maybe the comments will make sure you are so in the wrong. I just locked in. I think that's. That's great. But I also feel like some people are just not honest.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. I definitely think some people are lying for Sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think most. Yeah, I would say 99 are lying, you know, because I don't know. Anyways, am I being cynical today? I feel like I'm being cynical.

[Moses]

No enemies, rainbows, pots of girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I'm a fat person, and I'm so sick of fat people being like. I just mentally felt. Feel better. I just locked it in. I was like, okay. But I need to know because I mentally feel amazing. I'm always locked in, and I still, you know, I don't know. All right. Meat is better. I'm trying, guys. I'm trying. I'm on my health, and my next vlog will be health and wellness. That's the theme of my next one because we'll start going on hikes more. You know, just see nature.

[Moses]

Yeah, I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

And breathe.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

Save up to 40% your first year. Visit lifelock.com podcast for the threats you can't control. Terms apply, I guess. Let me. I'll wrap up Brit Awards before we go to the actor award news, but Harry Styles performed Aperture for the first time, and everyone was up in arms over his choreography. It was kind of divisive. He's never really been a choreo boy in One Direction. He, like, infamously. And all the One Direction boys, like Simon Cowell, at first when they got together, like, was trying to get them to be, like, you know, a little choreo, but they were all so bad at it that they remember that. Yes. What's the X Actor?

[Trisha Paytas]

There was one where they're, like, just stepping in wrong directions.

[Moses]

Yeah. They're like, there's. I think it went Viral on Tick Tock.

[Oscar]

Like.

[Moses]

Yeah, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that one.

[Moses]

Yeah, they were just a mess, honey. Whenever they were trying to dance. And then in his Brits performance, he performed Aperture and had this little choreo number. It was like, whimsical. It was kind of camp. It was kind of cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was Broadway. It was theatrical. I loved it.

[Moses]

It was. Was a little divisive because some people were like, oh, this is fine. And some people were like, well, if a pop girl dance like this, Stan Twitter would like, lock her up in the Kia Asylum. She never see the light of day. Give me Taylor Swift or even like Dua Lipa. Like, go girl. Give us nothing like before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I think just there is a double standard there always between male pop stars and female pop stars. I think that is just kind of life. I will say that we don't really have a lot of, like, male pop stars serving Corey. Like, obviously we have like the queer ones, like a choice of on, you know, but choreo. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I didn't know. I mean, it's not like the cat's like choreo, but it's okay, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no Michael Jackson.

[Moses]

Yeah. T. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

And now we have hairstyles and obviously

[Moses]

we have like the K pop acts. Like, like the boy groups. Definitely. Yeah, but like, for solo. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. But for like a solo pop star. Like, I'm glad that he's trying, you

[Trisha Paytas]

know, Like, a lot of them are

[Moses]

just standing up there and singing. So at least he's doing something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did love that. I did love that. I thought he, like this little.

[Moses]

Like, when he did his big grin,

[Trisha Paytas]

he went like, you love him.

[Moses]

I do love Harry. I stay. Like, I was really a hairy girl at one point for maybe like a good four years. Like, I was a hard hairy girl. Like, I really went in. As I've gotten older, I pretty much focus in on just the girls truly. But I still have a soft spot. Okay, for sure. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He gives, like, femme energy in the best way. Yeah.

[Moses]

He just seems cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

A cool guy. I like him. I've never heard, like, anything bad about him. Like, even, like, he would date a lot when he lived in LA and he would hook up a lot, but everyone he hooked up with would always be like, he's just very respectful. Yeah. So he would get around, but he was sweet about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't know why. He doesn't seem like a hookup type. He seems a little asexual. Leprechaun?

[Moses]

No, he. He'd be hooking up. Yes, Yes. I mean, in his younger days, he did say he was on Brittany Broski's podcast, which was. Is it considered a podcast or show?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess a show.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Royal Court.

[Moses]

And he did admit to being on Raya, which I thought was interesting. Like, the concept.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. There's no way. There's no way.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think more people would be like, I saw Harry Styles on Raya.

[Moses]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's weird.

[Oscar]

But she said something.

[Moses]

Tinder, Grinder, which I love. But I guess. I mean, there are people on Raya that we haven't really heard about. Like, we had one, like, when Olivia o' Brien was here and she told us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

Like a big star.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I didn't know him for what I was worth.

[Moses]

Yeah, true. But I was. God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you were. Okay.

[Moses]

And I've never heard about him.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, we hear about John Mayer,

[Moses]

and so I guess maybe the annoying guys you. You find out about, but like, the classy ones, people, kind of. Because you don't want to mess it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess someone would take a phone and, like, just record it or something. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

But there's some. I don't know if I never heard about the guy Olivia o' Brien matched with from Raya. I think it's possible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know anyone personally that's hooked up with him?

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They meet him on Raya.

[Moses]

I don't remember. I was in Call. No, I wasn't. I think it was a senior in college. She was also in college, but she was gorgeous. I think she was also doing modeling, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

How'd she meet?

[Moses]

I think it was a model.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because she was just lucky girls.

[Moses]

And she, like, said that he was just, like, so nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Moses]

And it was like, just a hidden quit. But she had no. Like, she was just like, he is so nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah. Nothing bad to say.

[Oscar]

I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love that.

[Moses]

That's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy, because I feel like you

[Moses]

would hear, like, horror stories. You'd be like, oh, he was like. It was. He treated me so bad. Like he just wanted nothing to do with me.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, I'm surprised he can be a hit and quit person because it's just like. Like, the liability. Right. Someone could be like, he gave me an STD or something. Like, you know, there's just so much liability there.

[Moses]

It was when he was younger, too, because this was like, 23rd, 2013, 2014. So it was like. Yeah, it was a long time ago, but yeah, I mean, you remember that infamous, like, I think it went viral on Tick Tock last year where it was like him and Zayn on the phone with like a fan. It was like, you gotta come to the hotel. Like, tell the security or you're with so and so. Remember it was like, come up to this floor.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess he really was just a boy. He's just a boy that does Five boys, One Direction. Five boys, one Direction.

[Moses]

Yeah, that was like the. That was a little motto.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute.

[Moses]

Yeah. Five boys, one dream, One direction.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's cute. What was the direction up?

[Moses]

Yeah, sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they were trying also in with Britney Broski to recreate your viral moment of listening to Katy Perry song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what were they listening to?

[Oscar]

He gave her headphones and she needed to react to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No way can you hear the song, though.

[Moses]

What the is your problem?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it playing?

[Oscar]

Is this like you.

[Moses]

It's unreleased.

[Oscar]

No reaction to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny. She's giving something. I gave nothing.

[Moses]

Because she's a real like Hair Perry stand to. So that's gaggy. But even I imagine if yours was in front of Katy Perry, like when you were doing yours, like, that's. That's so much.

[Oscar]

Yesterday this guy was doing a Tick Tock and he was saying, like, there's not a day go by that I don't think about you reacting to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm the worst reaction person though.

[Moses]

She's like, that's how she, like, made

[Trisha Paytas]

her name name was reacting to like kombucha, like I could never do.

[Oscar]

That's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mine was terrible. At least she was giving reactions. I. I liked it. First of all. I'm just gonna say it. I like that song. I like Women's World. I do think it's super catchy. But it could be my favorite. It could be My Chemical Romance. And when I listen to the new song, like, I. I just. I don't have reactions like that to music at all. But I do. Yeah. Whenever someone's like, listen to this, I'm always like, oof. I don't know. Because my reactions will never be what people want me to be with them. Hers was good. I'd listen to that song based on her. At least she's.

[Oscar]

She's gay. Yeah. Anyway, it's funny. I think there's never a good outcome for something like that if we. We don't hear this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, right.

[Oscar]

Like, we need to hear the song too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, it Gives a moment. Obviously you remembered it. That's so funny. Yeah, I guess they do that because. Why? Like, they're trying to keep it a secret or something.

[Moses]

I think it makes it, like, suspenseful. Like, ooh. Like, I. It's like a mystery, right? Like, oh, I. I wonder, like, why she's gagging like that. Like, I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess y.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess next time someone has me do that, I'm gonna be gaggy.

[Moses]

Yes, that's what you have to give.

[Trisha Paytas]

When I was listening to it, though, I thought, like, they were gonna play it. So I was like, okay, yeah, like, I didn't want to talk too much. I thought they were gonna play it, you know? So like, in my head, I was thinking like, oh, I'm not gonna talk too much, cuz they're gonna play this over it. So when I saw it, I was like, oh, silence. Otherwise I would have been like, wow. Yeah. I would have been like, really giving. Next time I'll do that. I don't know. How would you react? Cat's Eye plays their new song for you.

[Moses]

I'll be gagging. I'll be. I'm very expressive. I'm honestly, I would be that. I would be Brittany Broomski tease. I'm very expressive. I'm very excitable.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

Especially if, like, if Manal's in front of me and she's like, here, girl, check this one out. I'm like, you're gonna be.

[Oscar]

Well, we had it when Demi was showing you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that's true. Oh, yeah.

[Oscar]

You guys were reacting. And then.

[Moses]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I love it too. I just don't know. And I never want to be too much either, because what if I'm like, you're very authentic with your too much. What if I'm like, just giving? Not authentic. You remember that one time when I was just agreeing with everything Mo said? I was like, we hate this. It's patronizing Moses. Because I was like, oh, I want to just be agreeing. I want to be like, yes, Love that idea. And I was like, wow, way to patronize him. And I was like, well, I was trying to be enthusiastic. So my fear is that I'll always never be enough.

[Moses]

Too funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so. Or too much, I suppose. But yeah, I don't think I, like, listen to someone's music in front of them anymore.

[Moses]

Oh, I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, you're see them. You have the men on your. Did you customize this?

[Moses]

No, I ordered this, actually. It was in the Etsy cart for the concert that I never ordered it. And then last week I was like, let me order these shorts that I've been holding on to on Etsy. And I am manonation shout out Gaga. She did like reply to my Instagram story, which is so here's to me, like insane. And she has always been so nice to me. I get so anxious. Like when Trisha dms me when Ted. I can't even reply to Ted Nivison who I have like a full blown romance with.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And here goes. But not. She'd be replying like anytime I've been like DMing her for the past like, like year and a half. Like she's always been like so sweet. So you entertain it. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I love that she's like sweet.

[Moses]

Yes. Because I posted my photo cards. I was really feeling manonation AF last week. I was like, you know, this is my girl. Like I will support her till the end of time. I had all my mana photo cards from when I bought the Cow's Eye album and I just posted it to my story to let everyone know where I stand in history.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

And she just replied, she said, love you. Sending you hugs, heart, heart, heart. And I was like, that is so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's really nice. That's really good. No, I love her.

[Moses]

I sent her such a little angel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Teaming off forever, huh? And team other Cat's Eye girls. It's always someone else I love.

[Moses]

Yes. Literally. I love all the girls so much. I. I feel bad because they haven't even like been on social media since manas hiatus and stuff too. And they're just going through it. Poor Daniella, she's been getting so much hate on her Instagram. I feel from I think the moral of the story, label executives just gotta let those girls have some agency, have some control over their own artistry. Don't be playing with them. Let them just do their thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But note to every group, like, unless the member like just willy nilly, like wants to leave. Like don't try and up a good thing. You know what I mean? Because I guess I said she left for mental health, but we'll see if she returns for Coachella. I guess if she wants to leave, she can leave. But I know we don't know if that's the team.

[Moses]

We don't know what the tea is. I don't know. I don't know. I do believe she'll be back for like four Coachella, but it is weird. Like she was supposed to be at Paris Fashion Week, too. Like, like, just herself, not, like, with the group. So I don't think she. I think she's supposed to, like, walk or be at a show or something, and I don't think she was there yet. I don't. So weird. It's all very, very weird. But I love Cat's Eye Forever. I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. We're fans for life.

[Moses]

For life. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is their. Their group called? Like, what's the fans called? Litters. Oh. Oh, Cat Icons. I like. That was Paris Action Week, where Jim Carrey was.

[Moses]

No, he was at a French award show. So many random award shows across the globe.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was confirmed. They said that, like, he was. He was confirmed months ago. He was excited to do it because

[Moses]

he looked a little pickled, and everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. He looked fine.

[Moses]

He looks fine, but pickled, like. And that's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he was not pickled. That's crazy. I seriously did.

[Moses]

A little. A little filler in the cheeks, Mom. And that's okay. There's no shame in the game.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he looked exactly the same, and I think people are great. I do. People are like, oh, my. So different. It's like.

[Oscar]

Well, not exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's 65 or something. Like, everyone looks so different at 65. Like, you know, like, I don't know what people.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but his look went the other way. Like, it's not like he looks like. Normally he looks older and younger at the same time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even think he had any work done, honestly. I think that's just. I do. I think some people just age like that. Like, Jim Carrey has always been into, like, pep. We got.

[Moses]

We got to be the realness. If you want realness for people.

[Oscar]

Side of his face.

[Moses]

Your cheeks. When you age, you lose weight in your cheeks. So if your cheeks are getting plumper as you age, maybe he's scatter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Your cheeks gain weight.

[Oscar]

Eyelids were, like, on top of his eyes, and now they're like, up here. This is.

[Moses]

He's just a little pickled, and that's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's. I disagree strongly. I disagree so strongly with this. I thought people were actually insane. Like, I thought I was being gaslit by the Internet because I was like, what? Like, Like.

[Oscar]

Because also his. His behavior. So there was so many things that were not in character for him, and that's why people were. Because usually it doesn't. Like, awards. He doesn't like this kind of situation. So. But what's the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why would they replace him with a clone or what's the conspiracy. I don't know what he is. They think he's someone else. They think it's a makeup artist.

[Oscar]

Like, who do they think they're trying to figure out? They're like, wait, this doesn't look or sounds like Jim Carrey.

[Trisha Paytas]

But why can't they just accept that he wants to go to accept an award? Like, I don't understand that. Like, he's just like, oh, I want to do this now.

[Oscar]

I guess he's just never expressed that before. He always was the other way around. So there's a change. Boarding behavior looks everything about it different. So people are just shocked. It's true that when you don't see celebrities for a long time, it's always shocking when you suddenly see them because in your mind you remember them as the last movie you saw them.

[Moses]

Right. But mind you, he was just in Sonic the Hedgehog last year and looked like this. So I don't know why everyone's like, so gag. Yes. Oh, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was a little pickled back then too.

[Moses]

And that's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He looks the same. This looks like the same. Like, of course he's not 20 year old Jim Carrey, but like to me it's like the same. It looks like the Grinch. It looks like anything that he played. Like, it just looks the same.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah. He just looks like there's a little, a little filler in there. A little something. And again, that's okay. If I ever show up, like super pickled, I don't want to hear a clone this. That the third. No, I just went to my med spa. Maybe there was a group on. Maybe there was a sale that day. Say I love when there's a little sale on the Botox. Yes. When they like the units are like $6 instead of 8. Like that's fierce to me and I will take advantage of said sale. So don't come over here saying I'm cl. No, I just, I got a little plumped and a little nipped and a little time. Yes. I mean, and then it was fueled too, because the artist. Makeup artist drag. Or is it special effects? Alexa Stone. Yes. Was posting on Instagram teasing that they were the ones that actually went to this season. That's so funny as Jim Carrey because Alexis does can like make their face look like anyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. They went viral like years ago for this kind of thing.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they probably were just like cashing in. They're like, well, people think it's Claude. Let me say it's me.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And kind of believable. A lot of celebrities were commenting. I think like Lisa Rinna was in there too. Like oh my God. Like everyone was believing it and they're

[Oscar]

still like in the comments and everyone like that, the wondering, they're like, oh, it was this guy. Like no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't it crazy how people just like get attached to something so silly and like go so extreme over it? Because I'm like this is crazy.

[Moses]

It, it's, it's wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's wild.

[Moses]

I love that we're the state of the world where we just jump to the craziest conclusions. No, he didn't get a little filler. It's a clone. Like ladies, let's, let's rein it in a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, the world is like literally at war and everyone's like Jim Carrey's a clone. And this is why because he went on Jimmy Kimmel and he warned us about this and I was just like,

[Oscar]

like doesn't look like that. But yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, let me see that. What is that picture?

[Oscar]

It's from Sonic. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well that looks crazy.

[Moses]

Sonic. Is, is it Sonic 1, 2 or 3?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that looks like a 1.

[Moses]

Cuz 2024 he did look like that. But 2025, he was looking a little, little changed, a little riped.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think he's, I think he's cute. Had a young girlfriend with him. Did he maybe look a little side eye? Old men with younger women never ever gonna stop. I don't get it. But.

[Oscar]

Because I thought they said he went with his family.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, there was a girlfriend. That's all I care about.

[Moses]

Yeah, his family was there too. But yeah, also his girlfriend, it's young. 32 year age gap. So he's 64. So she's 32. I mean she's 32.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess.

[Moses]

Yeah. It's not like, I just don't. I mean, okay, I think it's different. Like Toby McGuire. I think his girlfriend is like 18 or not like maybe like 20 or something. Yeah, Toby McGuire has a really young

[Trisha Paytas]

20 years old or 20 years age gap old.

[Moses]

She's 19, he's 50. So that to me is crazy. But like 32, I'm like, okay, you're a full blown adult. If I want to date a six year old, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

But 32 is okay. Yeah, she's a lot younger. 19, 19.

[Moses]

And that seems criminal.

[Trisha Paytas]

That seems like jail. Like that's what I'm saying. I feel like honestly they need to have at least 21 be the age like in 19, like a child. Two years ago. Like you're a child.

[Moses]

I. I agree with, like, that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Moses]

19 and 50 is wild. Especially like looking at them together. Like, she does look like a sorority girl. You know what I mean? So. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Hate that. Okay. What is wrong with 60 year old women? 50 year old women, Like, I mean, I feel like they're like. There's a lot of those women out there. They have, you know, they're attractive too. I don't understand. And you know, no matter how hot I think Jim Carrey's an attractive man, you know, there's still some wrinkly skin there. Wrinkly balls. I've seen plenty of 60 year old ball sacks and they all look the same. Wrinkly and hanging on your face and slapping you around and not in a good way. And I feel like, do those girls really want that at that age? Like, no, no. The answer is no. And no matter what, gravity is real. And that just gets the best of us at a certain age. So these old men, starting at 50 to that 19 year old, I actually just feel sad. I mean, I just feel sad because the sex of it all too, is just like, it can be traumatizing. Seeing that at a young age, I would know. I think that's why I turned asexual most of my life. I think I really was like, traumatized. I think I was like, always had this, like, weird. I always say I'm not attracted to people. I don't like the way penis look. I think I just. Just seen such old ones from such a young age. And I was just like, this physically repulses me. And I wasn't until like I fell in love with someone. I was like, okay, I like this. But truly, I think all my life, when I look back, reflection, it's like everything disgusted me so much. And I kind of feel bad for these young girls. And you hear about that too. Even the ones who've been with you. Hefner, the same thing. They were like, true.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Traumatized by just an old wrinkly body on them. And we all get older wrinkly, you know, if that's what God allows. But it's just like, we'll all be old and wrinkly together. We'll be old and wrinkly at the same time. But the men, I guess they can't handle that. They're like, well, no, not me. I'm not elephant skin. Like, I'm gonna find someone young, you know, and it's like, well, okay, anyways, you know where I stand on that.

[Moses]

But I guess a good, healthy relationship. In contrast, another spider man, Tom Holland

[Trisha Paytas]

and Zendaya are married.

[Moses]

Are married. Clocked by Law Roach. Can I tell you? Yeah. So this happened. Law Roach was at the Actor Awards last night, and it was a pretty calm award show until he did. Law did the interview with ET and then we're watching it live, and it's like they, our host asked about, like, oh, like, have you talked to Zendaya about, like, what she wants for a wedding dress? And he just went, y' all missed it. The wedding's over. And our host thought she, he was joking. She went, stop playing. He made the rounds, mama. So we, we're like, wait, is he serious? Because she just went lost. Stop playing. And she. And he's like, mom. And then he just started talking about, like, Zendaya's press looks that are coming up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

And then he went to the next one over. He went to Access Hollywood. And then their host asked as well, like, so are you excited for Zendaya's wedding? It happened. And she's like, wait, are you serious? She's like, I'm serious. And he just kept. And then he walked away. And then, so we were sitting on it, like, I, I, it was, I was panicked. Like an entertainment journalism, a wedding, a baby, a death. It's all hands on deck. Like, it's, that's like my blood pressure skyrocket. So I was like, oh, it was all calm. And then that happened. And all of a sudden, like, Oscar, get on it. We need the headline, we need the video, we need the interview. Get the B roll. I was in the archives trying to find. And they don't really have a lot of video. Tom and Zendaya. So I was like, I was really in the weeds.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the archives?

[Moses]

It's literally you just the whole, like, library of footage from literally all our interviews, all the paparazzi video, all the red carpet appearances for the last, oh, my God, maybe like 40 years.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like a physical place where it has a hard drive.

[Moses]

It's all digitized. Now. It is a physical place, but it gets digitized. So it's all in our system. So you have to type. I'm like, looking Tom Hollands and hard drive from somewhere. It was already digitized, but some of it, if it's really old, they do have to, to, they have to drive to the storage and get the tape and then digitize it is kind of

[Trisha Paytas]

how do they have a computer big enough to hold four years of all the footage.

[Moses]

It's like in a system somewhere. Like, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. So they had me really hustling. I'm like, I literally had a popping Adderall washing down with a energy drink. And then I was. I was locked in. But then they wouldn't let us post it because they thought he was joking. And then Access Hollywood posted it and then like, okay, I guess we can post it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Well, someone else did it first, so then.

[Moses]

Totally. Yeah. So we can blame someone else because last week people reported that Pink and Carrie Hart are separating. And then Pink shut it down like Expedition. And that was also crazy. It was like the show was about to go on, so everyone was like, literally yelling like, this is the new lead story. Run. And then Pink. So it was like, this is fake news. And everyone's like, drop it. Drop the story. It was crazy in the newsroom.

[Trisha Paytas]

And no one. No one has disputed that. That they are married. Tom and Zendaya.

[Moses]

Yeah, no one's disputed. And so, yeah, we were just scared after the Pink thing to. In case it was wrong. And also, Zendaya has so much press coming up, so if we, like, piss her off and we don't get her for, like, the five projects she's in this year, like, that's terrible.

[Trisha Paytas]

No more to E.T. well, I don't think she should be pissed at the press. She should probably be pissed out.

[Moses]

I mean, love's a messy queen. I love LA Roach. So my bat is to go up there and spill the. So funny. It must have been a lot, like, a while ago. She has been wearing her. Her gold band, like, out in paparazzi photos. So maybe he thought, like. Well, yeah, it's kind of been reported now at this point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Always the glam. Always the glam people, because they do know the most and they just be willy nilly. I think that's why JLo fired one of her hairstylists, because he was sharing all her details.

[Moses]

Too funny. But Lawns and Dale are just like, too, like. They're just such a good pair.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

She can never go without them. But. But, yeah, it was really funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

So funny.

[Moses]

And he did an interview with Complex a couple weeks ago, too, where they asked him about the wedding dress. He didn't come from their mirror at this point, but he did say, no one is ever gonna see that dress. Because I guess they're just, like, so private about it that, like, that's. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think you'd Want to share a photo?

[Oscar]

It's not up to him.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, them, the couple. Like everyone, right? Doesn't everyone? Like, Ariana shared a photo from her wedding? But they're not like, you're not on social media, Is that what you're saying?

[Moses]

They're not like, they certainly are on to promote whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. Yeah, I do like that. That's crazy to me. That's so crazy. But like, you know, I don't understand people who don't post on social media. I'm like, what do you mean?

[Moses]

How are you especially like, no. Zendaya was gagging with the fact, like, you know, the fashion at this wedding. We're good. Like, she has access to literally any dress that she wants in the world. And she is like so beautiful and stunning and perfect. Like, you know, she looked amazing and I am so curious. But I love that this is so private. Like, I love that they did it so secretly. I think it's so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is a crazy way to live. Who was it? I think Jacob Lori was also talking about how not having social media or something like that. I'm like, that's so crazy to not the guy from Bridgeton to Benedict Luke Thompson. He doesn't like, never scrolling, like, never doesn't even know what to scroll. Like, how do you know what's happening in the world?

[Moses]

I guess, but I guess it's a

[Trisha Paytas]

good way to live, I guess.

[Moses]

Guess. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, does Jacob Lordy know that he's famous? Do you know what I mean?

[Moses]

Well, I think when he's, you know, getting photographed and at premieres and doing interviews.

[Trisha Paytas]

But everyone must feel that way. Everyone like, you know, Luke Thompson from British and probably like, oh, I'm getting interviewed and getting photographed.

[Moses]

Luke Thompson talked about like his experience with like press tours and he made it sound like, like from his pov, like it's like the project that is a big deal. And then he likes to kind of like go away to obscurity versus like a Jacob Elordi who does get like, like hounded by paparazzi and is yelling at them to like, you know, give him some space and stuff. So I think you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he doesn't like it, Jacob Lordy, no.

[Moses]

But so I think he senses that, you know, when you have, when you're getting tailed and you're getting photographed non stop, I feel like you must sense that, oh, the people must be buying the photos. That's why they're following me around, you know, so interesting. Some people can go like more incognito. You don't really hear about them until they're promoting, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What a crazy life.

[Moses]

I know. But, yeah, I love. I mean, I figured Tom Dea was going to be super private, too. I just. They have so many projects this year, and I am just, like, so anxious about her having to, like, deal with these questions about her wedding for the next, like, five months. That's my. That's my thing about him spilling the tea. The last spilling the tea is like, I hope.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

People have some decorum when she's doing these interviews.

[Trisha Paytas]

They don't.

[Moses]

No. But here's hoping.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think the letter let people say ask?

[Moses]

I don't know. I think maybe, like, when Millie Bobby Brown got married and then she did. Was promoting Stranger Things, or I think she also did a Netflix movie movie. Before Stranger Things, we were allowed, like, one question. You can ask, like, one question about the wedding or getting married, whatever. So maybe they'll do something like that where you're allowed, like, one question or we'll pull her, you know? But that's so funny. Yeah. Like, I had a friend, speaking of Jacob Elordi, like, they will literally just cut the footage if you ask something bad, like if the studio's recording it. Because I had a friend who interviewed Jacob Elordi for another outlet, and she asked him about the kissing booth, and he, like, was not feeling like he did not want to talk about the kissing booth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why?

[Moses]

I guess he's embarrassed about it because they just cut the footage. They caught the footage of her asking about the. The kissing booth, and it just, like, the interview was cut off really randomly, like, three questions early.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny.

[Moses]

I know. So, like, they. They have full control, so if you piss them off, they just won't give you the footage. So I maybe want to know about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know what that movie is. Who wants to know anything about that? Like, ask something about Euphoria or literally anything else. That's such a funny thing. I'm gonna be a rebel and ask about this. Like, ask about his relationship with Livia Jade. Like, ask about. See how I remember that now? I will never forget. They clip Oscar Jimmy's edits of Oscar

[Moses]

being like, I thought Olivia Jade and Jacob Lordi were still together, but then

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't even know Olivia J and Jacob Lordy were dating. How did that happen?

[Moses]

Why we. This was. They were a whole hot topic where you said, if Jacob Lordy wins for Frankenstein, he better shout out Olivia Jada.

[Trisha Paytas]

Olivia J. The influencer. Yes.

[Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

The pudding scammer Valley that

[Moses]

I was having, like, an identity crisis in that moment. I was like, wait, that was crazy. You forget it. It was because it was only a month old, so it wasn't even that long ago. But I guess we do film a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll never forget. Oh, Jade. But they're no longer together. Olivia Jade's now with Braxton.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Is he?

[Moses]

Now you're remembering who is whose ex boyfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

That definitely Alex Earls. I only knew him as Alex Earl's ex. Now I know Braxton. I don't know his last name. I know it's like. Like Barry or something.

[Moses]

I think it's Baros. Baros and Ian, who was. Oh, yeah. Because Olivia Jade and then Alex Earl on her podcast. Now I learned more lore. Alex Earl filmed a podcast with Stacy Schroeder saying she was anxious about seeing Braxton at that party where Braxton was with Olivia Jade. And before Olivia Jade was seen with Braxton, she took a photo with Alex Earl, which is kind of funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she was like, yeah.

[Moses]

She's like, yeah, girl, let me take this pic with you. And then let me go. You talk to. To your ex man.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who took a. Who asked for whose picture?

[Moses]

That is a good question. That is some tea. We should reach out for a statement.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's an interesting one.

[Moses]

But also, she's with Tom Brady. So I honestly, I'd be like, girl, you were Tom Brady. Do you really care that I'm with this guy who's on whatever flop team? Like, come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, cuz. Okay. Yeah, Right? I don't know. I don't know.

[Moses]

I don't know either.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I never. Yeah, I guess if you're up, I don't know what the upgrade is. I don't know which one's better, actually. Tom Brady. I don't know. I'm gonna go here.

[Moses]

I think in the. The world of, like, if you want someone more successful, like Tom Brady.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But I would also argue you want someone hotter.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say back to the saggy ball syndrome.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you know.

[Moses]

Although if anyone would get a ball lift, I think Tom Brady would get a ball lift.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I've seen a ball left, and those do not always end well.

[Moses]

Really? I didn't even know that was a thing. I was making it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. There is a. I don't know if they call it a ball. If I had someone see there and it looks like it looked young. I don't know how to describe it. Like, it looks.

[Moses]

Made me A little sick.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Yeah. Okay. That's all I'll say. I just remember being like. You know what I mean? Like, just not. Yeah.

[Moses]

Anyways, that is wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I really did not know that was a thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess it's called tightening maybe. I don't know. Honestly, I just was like. And not. This is not even gonna be funny or anything, but there. Your voice does get higher. Well, for this one person that I knew, and he's not famous. He's old. But his. He got his. His balls lifted. Moses outs himself. He just starts talking. Hi.

[Oscar]

All of a sudden, he's just an army.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy. Okay. That scared me for a second.

[Oscar]

It should be scared if I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That's what it sounded like, actually. Yes. It did sound like his voice went up an octave.

[Moses]

Whoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is crazy, I think.

[Moses]

Listen, I. I am not opposed to getting pickled, clearly. But I do think scrotum and penal plastic surgery does kind of give me the ick. I think just let. If it's small, let it fly. If it. If. If you're sagging, let it fly.

[Trisha Paytas]

So if it's sagging, find someone else who has sagging boobs or something. You know, everyone can sag together. Everyone flops around together. Like, that's what happens. That's great. Aging gracefully together, you know?

[Moses]

But some people just have, like, big balls that sag, and that's okay, too.

[Oscar]

I think that's why they changed the name of the award.

[Moses]

Sag. SAG Award. Honestly, maybe that is it. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Because everyone. We're getting a bit older in Hollywood, and they're like, I don't want to get the SAG Award.

[Moses]

And maybe there was some gay, you know, gay SAG award for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, sagging balls.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but there is a difference between big balls that sag, like, big boobs when you're young that sag, and just old boobs that are wrinkly and saggy. Like, you know what I mean? There is a difference. There's firmness. There's all of that. Like, the old saggy balls have no firmness. There's nothing. At least the ones that are young, if they're heavy, whatever, that's one thing. There's firmness. There's something. And yeah, when you get hit by those, it feels a little better. When you hit by the saggy, wrinkly ones, you're like, oh. Like, it's just like, Saran Wrap hit me in the face. It's like. Like, just get that off there. You know, Just wet, just sticking to Your face. Yeah, it's wet. It's not.

[Moses]

It.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to deter all these young girls. Like, it seems glamorous, it seems great. But I'm telling you. Yeah, it does. Obviously. Why do they keep dating old men? They' seems like a, you know, got a 401k.

[Moses]

Yeah, don't. Don't get swayed by the 401k, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, because they probably won't promise it to you unless you are. I guess if I. I never was a dime piece, I guess you could say so. Maybe the really pretty ones get that. But if you're mid, you can't put

[Moses]

a price on your youth. And do you really want to waste the finest years of your life with the wrinkliest men?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Please. Please, just 20 to 30. Just go. Really go for the young ones. Not too young.

[Moses]

Because the yes, equal. Age around. Around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I. Yeah, I regret it. Cause I was like, oh, I never was attracted to young guys, but I really just had issues. I just had some daddy issues that I wish I would have worked through, you know, because I was like, damn, I probably, probably could have had a cute young boyfriend at some point. Moses was my youngest boyfriend when I met you. Age comparison, why is. You were the least age gap for me. I was like, wow, like I'm robbing the cradle Robin.

[Moses]

That is wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what it felt like.

[Oscar]

I was like, wow, look at this baby Moses. No, she found me in the river, I guess.

[Moses]

Yeah. In comparison.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like, wow. I remember when he could like walk up the stairs and just be like, normal or. Oh, my God. Sorry.

[Moses]

Yeah, you gotta get. You gotta lose normal. When you're describing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

When he would like take down boxes, cut down boxes. And he was cutting down boxes. And I remember like, just anyone else, like, just could never even bend over.

[Oscar]

She is always shocked when she sees me naked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That sounds crazy.

[Oscar]

Because you're like, wow, I can't believe.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy.

[Oscar]

What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I try to give you compliments. I try to be like, wow, look at that. But

[Oscar]

it's like, how are you not wrinkle you? Because I mean, I am almost 50. It's like I'm supposed to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Oh, you are very taut in every way. You are. Everything's just tight. Like your thigh. Everything is. Is crazy. No dimples in. That's nothing. And it's like I've just been with everybody. Like, I've been with people 40, 50, 60, since I was like 16, 17, 18. And it's just like cra. So I've seen a lot. A lot, a lot, a lot. A lot of 40 plus and they all are dimply ass. I've never seen one 40 year old without a dimple. And you don't have any dimples. It's impressive.

[Oscar]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

And no, your thighs. Yeah. You are taught you have good jeans. Anyways, I didn't give you compliments. I don't know if I'm shocked. I'm just always like, wow.

[Oscar]

I mean, I meant in a good way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I am always shocked. Wow, look at that bod. Did you have a good one?

[Oscar]

Thank you. It's the lift.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's the what? You got balls lifted. No, you did not. I would know. I would know.

[Oscar]

No, my voice never changed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Heavy on the balls. This episode, it's like crazy title.

[Oscar]

Yeah, well, it is the Sega Ward episode, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Crazy.

[Moses]

More relationship news. Damn. Selena Gomez's man, Benny Blanco, on his debut episode of his podcast, the Friends Keep Secret podcast with co host Lil Dicky and Kristen Barucco, where he was just absolutely heinous and gross and unhygienic, and it was maybe the wildest thing I've ever seen. Listen, I always try to have Selena's back. My God, there's someone for everybody. But he was on this podcast, dirty fee, on the sofa and farting on the microphone, which I literally didn't see that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought I saw dirty feet. And I was like, all right, guys, it's okay if you have dirty feet. Not my thing. I don't have dirty feet.

[Moses]

But I. It makes me sick. Even just that. And then also the.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't. But I like. I don't hate a dirty fee, but I never have dirty feet. At least I like to clean and clean, but dirty feet weren't the wise. But farting on a microphone's crazy.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean? He took it to his butt.

[Moses]

Yeah, he was like. He was asking if the sound would pick it up. He said they were talking about the vision for the podcast. Oh, my gosh. And he said, wait, see if you guys can pick this up. And then he lifted his butt and farted into the microphone and. Yeah, you can hear it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's actually so gross. Like little gas particles. You're just like spreading to everyone in the room.

[Moses]

It makes me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that made me a little nause.

[Moses]

No, for real. Just the visual, because I. It's kind of burnt. Turned into my brain. Like the dirty feet. And also it's like the double homicide of it all. Like, the farting on the microphone with your dirty feet. Like, maybe pick. Pick a struggle.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought maybe. Do they film it? Little Dicky's house.

[Moses]

It's like, in a house. Yeah, Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought maybe, like, someone just moved in and there's boxes and then anyone come clean. So, like, he's just like. He was barefoot in the house and, like, picked up some dirt. Like, that's what I originally thought, but then seeing this. What did he say anything about the feet? Was there any comments about it?

[Moses]

No, know, it was just there.

[Trisha Paytas]

No mention.

[Moses]

Out and proud, dogs. Out and proud.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, when you're in love, I guess you don't really, like, smell anybody or. But the farting's great. Like, seriously, I would divorce for farting. I'd be like, that's gross. Like, if you were intentionally, like, farting into the micro, like, Moe's over there farting that microphone. I actually might be like, we need to separate at least physically in houses. In separate houses. Because I can't.

[Moses]

Like, just thinking about it makes me, like, nauseous. And. And if this is him on camera, I fear what's not on camera. You know what I mean? Like, if this is him in the presentable on camera personality way, is it even worse in the house with no one watching?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the hygiene of it all.

[Moses]

I.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's no excuse for bad hygiene. Like, as much as I'm like, I hate showering, like, get in that shower. You know what I mean? Like, I still will do it. You don't want to smell bad for, like. Okay, if you're living alone, sure, I guess, whatever. Like, be stinky and fart all day long. But, like, if you have anyone you're living with, like, be hygienic. Like, if you're around people. If you're going to a podcast, like, be considerate. Like, shower, don't fart, watch very.

[Moses]

That. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't understand this. I don't understand it because it's, like, not cute either. It's like, you know, he's in his 30s. You're like, you're not, like, cute and funny and, like, I'm young and I don't know.

[Moses]

I'm really trying to be on board. Like, you know Selena Marie, that's my sister. Like, if you like it, I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses]

I'm really struggling with this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. And I do like the way he, like, treats her too. But this is like, just like. Like, it's not like Dax Shepard. It's like, the opposite of a Dax Shepherd. It's like, cuz I love what a Christian Bell host is. Oh, she did.

[Moses]

The actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loved, love her little intro. I love her so much. I'm like, oh, but that.

[Oscar]

I've seen somebody that said that, Sel. So Selena has some illness, right?

[Moses]

Yes.

[Oscar]

And they said, you know, like, if you understand, like a sick girl, like, she wouldn't mind a gross guy so

[Moses]

much because he sees her at the worst. Yes.

[Oscar]

Like she. She also has her moment, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what?

[Moses]

Ivy. Ivy Wolf. Ivy Walk said this? You know Ivy?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but they're comparing her rare disease with stinky farts that you can not just go to the other room and do. Like, I don't understand the comparison. Like, what does she have? She has something crazy, like serious Selena. Yeah.

[Moses]

Selena has lupus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lupus, yes. And this man just can't hold a fart in.

[Moses]

So Ivy said, y' all don't understand the charm of dating a guy who is a little gross when you are a chronically ill girl. Because when you having diarrhea and throwing up and getting surgery, he not shaken. But y' all won't get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Normies will be like that too.

[Oscar]

Why are you pointing at me?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because you. I don't know how to describe you other than that because it's like, okay, you also were there in sickness and in health. When I'm giving birth and I constipated, fart, like, can't get stuff out. Like, you're there, right? You're there for me, but you don't. You're not gross in return, I'm never like, oh, it's ok. Moses is gross. So I don't feel bad. Like, you're clean, hygienic. I still didn't feel bad. I still was like, whatever, this is normal.

[Oscar]

But I think, you know, if he

[Trisha Paytas]

had a condition that he can't give

[Oscar]

him birth once, two, three times, that's it. Like, you never. Like, for her, it's a chronic thing. Like, it's always.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I totally get that. If he, if he had a chronic condition, of course. Like, and if you had a chronic condition, if you were like your pants all day long, I'd be like, well, I. I love you, so that's why I'm gonna be there for you.

[Moses]

But if you're just gonna help it.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you couldn't help it, like, if you're just doing that to be funny, I would be like, that's disgusting. That's not the same. He's doing it to be Gross. He can control himself. Farting in a microphone. Right? Like, that's. She can't. So I think that's, like, a completely different thing. And if you're sick. Yeah. Okay. I kind of get Ivy woke.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She a drag queen.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Moses]

An English teacher and an aura.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That's a great name.

[Moses]

She's a tiktoker.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Real.

[Moses]

Real name. Yeah. Well, I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right, but it's W, O, L, K. Walk, Walk or woke. I don't know. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I get what she's saying, but I feel like if you're a chronically sick girl, you don't have to settle for a nasty.

[Moses]

That's true. Don't send a message that all because you were born with a sickness that. Damn. I must have to get someone who's just disgusting, who's a literal animal, who,

[Trisha Paytas]

like, can't control him. Like, that's crazy. Because there are clean, beautiful men who are not normal but not famous that will, like, take care of you and love you through sickness and health and not think any of it. Because it's a natural thing. Right. Like, yeah, giving birth. You can't control if you poop, if you do that, whatever. And most guys would. Would also be there for you. The hygienic ones.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah. I love Selena posted, like, after this went viral. She posted a photo of her kissing Benny and said, I fall more and more in love with you every day on her story. So she is standing 10 toes. 10 dirty toes down. My man. My man, My man.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? I. I respect it. I was that. I was that for sure. I dated someone that was someone. I was so stinky, and I was like. I never smelled it. Because you're, like, so in love, so you kind of, like, don't see it. And you're like, no. What? And after, you're like, you know what? Yeah, I could see the stink.

[Moses]

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[Trisha Paytas]

You ignore it. You're like, well, that's normal.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not.

[Moses]

I. I try really hard to be like open minded when it comes to him and I know he's very talented. Incredible musical legacy. Sure seems like a nice person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But let's just clean it up. Like if you already are being like the butt of the joke of like, how is. And he knows this. How is. How am I dating Selena? How am I married to Selena Gomez? Like I'm so unhandsome, then wouldn't you want to put your best foot forward?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, at least smell good.

[Moses]

Yeah. And at least like just class it up. Like, this is your program. The debut on the J Shetty network. Your debut episode on the J. Sheddy network.

[Trisha Paytas]

Going to be network Little Dicky.

[Moses]

Go on.

[Trisha Paytas]

What that. What's the network called? And that's the person he signed. All I know Little Dicky is I remember he like trigger warning duetto with Chris Brown. Like that's all I remember. I don't remember anything else.

[Moses]

Oh, I don't know anything about him except for the people on the casa. Heated rivalry. Like Lil Dicky. That's all I know. Gateway to Little Dicky, I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. Yeah. Literally he had a whole music video starring Chris Brown where Chris Brown was him.

[Moses]

You know, I'm very Zara Larson when it comes to Chris Brown. Her just. Just standing ten toes down again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. As we all are.

[Moses]

That's like so normal normies are.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, normies are.

[Moses]

The normies are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That's a crazy. Okay, what's the podcast called that he was on?

[Moses]

Was called the Friends Keep Secret podcast. The again, the debut episode which is Friends Keep Secrets. Yes. And also unrelated to the hygiene. But there was also a little bit that they did where it was like, if you could have dinner with any person who's dead, who would you want? And they were, they said Hitler. They were like, like I wanted. I would want to have dinner with Hitler. Like I have some questions for you. Hit. Like, would you still. Would you still want to do all that? Like have a whole full blown genocide? And it's like that's again the first episode. Maybe friends should keep some secrets like friendship, some thoughts. Just keep to yourself. Like what? Because it's like time and place.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Time and place. Like it's just awesome.

[Moses]

I don't know if there is a time and place for that, but actually think about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I don't think there's ever a time and place for like what, what? Hitler sympathizers.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean they're both Jewish, but it still seems a little. Yeah, dicey. And that's the one person you want to have dinner with alive or dad. Like, not your meemaw, your papa. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's Jesus. Like there's better people to have 100%.

[Moses]

100%.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

This whole thing seems a little odd. Production seems cool, though. I'll give them that. Production seems really cool with like all the different angles and stuff. But maybe to the dead, maybe they should keep just, you know, tight angle. Like me, you know? Tight angle. You don't see anything that, you know,

[Trisha Paytas]

you could do full body. All.

[Moses]

Because it could. Doesn't mean it should. You know what I mean? So same with Benny Blanco, I think. Let's. Let's keep the angle tight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, it is crazy.

[Moses]

And then he was a guest judge on Drag Race too, so. And the gays were not having it. So it's a bad week.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. The. The US version, that's crazy. They never even asked me. I did a whole gay song.

[Moses]

Literally. That was the first thing I thought. I was like, damn, that's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is on here, cuz it's like, I get it. Like, maybe I'm not the first choice.

[Moses]

You want to know what the biggest gag of it all, the theme was? The mu. The rusical. It was the musical episode. And Benny Blanco is the judge. Like, what? That's kind of. I guess he does music, but what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know if he's the gay musical icon back or something. You know, anyone. But that. That's crazy.

[Moses]

Yeah, like, jinx. Like, come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, watch. Well, she's booked and busy. That's wild.

[Moses]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't watch it. I know. I haven't been keeping up with this season. I fear if no one is doing me on Snatch Game, I don't. Cause I know someone's gonna be on Snatch Game. We're sit from the beginning because we need a room for our girl. So I don't think that.

[Moses]

I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, we tried. We tried this season, I think, you know, just didn't find the time. We've always been a little behind everything, but.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll try.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love, you know, I do love a drag queen, though.

[Moses]

Yeah. This is a really good season. I do really love this season.

[Trisha Paytas]

Any winners yet?

[Moses]

There is. They're going into the final seven now. I love how long it lasts. It really goes on for a while and I love it. I love it. I love Drag Race.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you ever watch House of Villains? You ever get into that? You're watching the new one.

[Moses]

I love playing Jane. I've been playing Jane has a YouTube channel now and also does, like, reactions. She does, like, a reaction. She has her YouTube channel. It's kind of like a podcast, interviews and stuff. And then she also has a reaction to RuPaul's Drag Race UK versus the world with Corey King on, like, the Drag Race channel. And I watch it so much that I have picked up so many plain Jane mannerisms. And I'm a little scared because Plane

[Trisha Paytas]

Jane is like, what did you do?

[Moses]

It's like, honey. Or like, wake it up. It's always like a honey, a mama. I wake it up. Yeah, it's a. I catch myself. I just like. I'm a sponge when I, like, hyper fixate on someone, I get.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I get the same way. Yeah.

[Moses]

But Plane Jane is a scary one because, like, she's just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I'm the same. I try not to get obsessed with listening to one thing because I will start, like, talking like that person, and I'm like, okay, let me not. But play. Dan's kind of fierce on there.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It trickled in after Traders Reunion. Like, the new House of Villains, like, started up, and I was like, well, she has a new one or an old one.

[Moses]

Okay, the current one. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, she does look pretty fierce on it.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's, like, the only one I know.

[Moses]

Really. She's coming in hot. Christine Quinn is also on a Met the new season. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I saw her in the intro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did we see last night?

[Oscar]

Oh, W. It automatically play. We watch the Traders reunion and it automatically went, oh, my God, the language was too much. So I switched it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, God, I must have not even. Okay.

[Moses]

But I think in the first episode, they come in one by one. So maybe you just didn't get to. When she.

[Oscar]

They didn't get to her by the beginning. They dance or something. So I saw her in the den. Oh, I didn't see, like, a dense piece. And then it shows because I saw

[Trisha Paytas]

the recap where they showed who's the one. Who's the one. Is she a clown? The one that won the International All Stars? Jumbo. Jimbo.

[Moses]

Jimbo, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she on one season?

[Moses]

Not Jimbo who was on there was.

[Trisha Paytas]

They showed someone with the really comically large boobs, like, the drag boobs at the intro, and I was like, it looks like Jimbo. No,

[Moses]

there was Kandy Muse was on last season, but she doesn't have big boobs. Boobs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it was just for one thing,

[Moses]

but plain Jane also does if she wears a breastplate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, maybe that was it. But these were like, comically large, like, Jimbo ones.

[Moses]

Oh, okay. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder who it was. It's so great.

[Moses]

It might have been plain maybe because

[Trisha Paytas]

I was just seeing the previews of it and then we, like skipped through it. I guess I should watch it though. I do love New York, so I kind of want to watch. And Tom Sandoval, we saw him come in.

[Moses]

Yeah. It is a wild cast. But I love playing Jane because she just. She comes in hot. Like she. Yeah, I think it was plain because she's wearing a breastplate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

That might be it in these photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you're seated for House of villains but not traitors.

[Moses]

Yeah, that's because. Okay, this cast is fierce, but also like House of villains is so, like low brow and like knows what it is.

[Oscar]

You know, like reality TV more than a competition.

[Moses]

Traders is a little too classy. Almost like House of villains is like bottom of the barrel. You know, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or you like bottom of the barrel.

[Moses]

Yeah. I love 90 Day Fiance. Like, I love the bottom of the barrel. Like, just fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you watching the new 90 Day Fiance?

[Moses]

Of course I have. Colton, which one's called.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's the one that's like, yes. With the nurse.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And he can't have sex.

[Moses]

Yeah. 90 day fiance. The single life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you seen him in his other seasons?

[Moses]

I had to get caught up on the lore because I didn't know how diabolically was. I've since gone back not to watch the full thing, but I've seen like clips and how he is and it's wild to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

The full. You need to watch this full thing. I've watched every single Colton season and he is. Is. It's a. It's insane. Just a less just, you know, there's never give up. Colton has gotten so many. I think this is his third fiance. On our native fiance, he gets so many women and beautiful women and he is just the worst. Like, just can't. Like, how does he even keep himself alive? Like, he's like this mama's boy. Can't keep himself alive. Like, treats women like horrendous looking. Like, on top of all of that, it's just like, how. How are you getting women? But I guess that's just like the lesson. Like that you can. You can. There's someone for everyone. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's insane that these women are like he's, he couldn't have, he couldn't be lower. Lower, bottom of the barrel as you said. Like, you know, like just nothing about him is redeeming at all.

[Moses]

Like not.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's a cheater. He treats women like he's with his mom. He doesn't make money. He's disgusting to look at. Like there's just like everything.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And these women are obsessed with him. And I'm like, what is this world? But I'm so seated. I know what you mean for 90 fiance can be seated for mess. Although I do like it. I like when they work out. I like when like they are cute and they work out together. It's rare.

[Moses]

But I love it when it works out. But I love it even more when it doesn't. You know what I mean? When it's like the girl. Why? How can we not see what is right in front of you? Like obviously getting scammed. Like, this is. I know Lisa. God, I need, I mean I need to start a 90 day fiance podcast. I really could. Cuz I like, I watch it and

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, I'm surprised they don't have one.

[Moses]

I. I'm sure they do. Like there has to be the one

[Trisha Paytas]

person I was like talking to one time on any fantasies I was obsessed with show he end up in like prison. I was like, oh my God. Like what is this show? Like it's just the worst people that. Cuz I was obsessed. I had a moment. Who was the guy that was dating Lisa?

[Oscar]

Boy or soldier boy?

[Trisha Paytas]

Soldier boy, but not Soulja boy. Yes, the other one. There's one in Nigeria. And I was like obsessed with him and I was like talking to him. Like I was like so obsessed with these like people that I wanted. But then you like talk to them and you realize that they're all lunatics. 90% of them are lunatics. You know, they're like so actually wild. Like, yeah, there's something wrong with them. Mostly the Americans. I feel bad for the international people because you know, they're just looking for love, looking for a better life. And these Americans are just like the

[Moses]

grossest awful sometime I don't know, like,

[Trisha Paytas]

oh, is it the other way? I've never seen like a bad international person. Like you can see they're scammy or whatever. I don't really think that. I think they are. I think they're like honest about like what they want. Some of them fall in love, some of them learn to love. You know, some of them offer like a trade for Companionship and stuff. But what's a bad international foreign.

[Moses]

There's one right now on before the 90 days. This girl, this woman, I should say she's like in her 40s, a teacher, like, very sweet. She just lost a lot of weight, hate. But she's still in the phase where she has like a lot of skin and stuff. So she's still like, insecure. But she has a good man. Like a good man at. In America that she friend zoned because she is like, it's like, like she also, like, she's a teacher, but she also loves like a fan fiction. Like the dark, you know, brooding guy, like the bad boy. And so she's in Turkey with this guy who's like, not cute at all. Also in like over a hundred thousand dollars in debt because he has a gambling addiction. And also he's like, not into her at all. Like, not attractive, not. Not into her. Like, treats are terrible.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's American or she's Turkish.

[Moses]

She's American and she went to Turkey to go to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the guy. The Turkish guy is terrible. Oh, no, because usually they're pretty good. They, they hang in there. Those. The international ones.

[Moses]

I don't know. There's some.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses]

So even like my Vanya, who's on the single life right now, I forget where she went, but she went somewhere in Europe, I think, and the guy wouldn't even like, kiss her. Like, didn't like her. And then she rebounded with another guy in the country that she met on Tinder. And then he like, secretly recorded them having sex and she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my.

[Moses]

She was celibate and she finally put out for this guy and he recorded her having sex. Like, so. Yeah, you can't generalize because it could go both ways.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would say mostly it's the gross Americans. I would say 70%.

[Moses]

I guess so. Because then you have like, there's a couple like two girls in the Philippines this season who are like, are very like, sweet and wholesome and the guys are American guys are kind of doing them wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like, that's every. Every episode I've seen where the guy goes over to the Philippines. That's always the case. It's not just Ed, obviously, because Big Ed was like the worst of them. But like, there was a guy early in the early, early seasons, he was awful. She, like, put her fingers on his window and he like, yelled at her. And she was like 19. She was like a child. And he was like 60 and disgusting. And it was like, they're always just the Worst, I'm like, she is an actual child. So like what are you even on about? And controlling and.

[Moses]

Anyways, I'm seated regardless though.

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to be. Yeah. I hate to say I seen Colton was back and I was like, ah, I can't get into it again.

[Moses]

Oh, I. I'm literally that. That's like come 4pm on Monday night, like when I'm done.

[Trisha Paytas]

Something new.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like it comes out on Sunday but I have to watch on HBO on Monday like the day after. So like I get home, 4pm I'm like, okay, Darian, sit on the show. You're locked in. Like I don't want to see you on your phone. I love that because it's a 90 minute. So like you really need to give yourself time and space.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you have food or you just sit?

[Moses]

It's usually like before or after dinner. So like if I have. Yeah, it depends on where it falls in. Like sometimes it's four, sometimes it's six. So depending on where we are.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love watching food and if we, if we're able to, we usually can like watch something. Most of the time the kids are watching something. They love that. Charlotte and Ellie. But if we can get anything else besides them on, then it's, you know, a good night. We try and do the Traders, but it all depends on what time everyone goes to sleep.

[Moses]

Oh, Trader Traders reunion. You watched it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I watched it, but I guess you didn't.

[Moses]

No, but I saw the clips.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Traders Reunion, I kind of wasn't that seated for. I kind of get bored from reading reunions. I don't know why people love reunions. I get so bored.

[Moses]

I love a reunion, but you gotta be able to go there. And I kind of think in with Traders, some of them are too classy, I think. So like they don't really push it as far as you could. Like I feel like you really could get, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is that what.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they really cleaned up everything.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like Colton, they never talked about Rob and not Ron.

[Moses]

Oh yeah.

[Oscar]

They never talked about anything related to him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's boring.

[Oscar]

They clean it up. And even Reena, like after she said like all the stuff that she did on purpose because she knew they're going to clean it up. So like that she confronted Colton that you can.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So. Oh, they didn't show any of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

She said. She said stuff that wasn't shown. Oh, I didn't see that.

[Moses]

Where'd you say that she was. She had a book signing, right? Yeah. And she was like she's like, oh, we talked. I talked to Colton about everything. Maybe the stalker stuff. Like, she was really like, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

The way they edited it. She definitely did not eat because I love Lisa Verna. But she was like, asking Colton. She like, you know, you called me. You said you took me hostage as a trader. I didn't like that word. That was the wrong word. He's like, you said you were gonna slit my throat. And she's like. So I was like, what? How can you come for someone. Because she was so offended by that word. But I'm like, but you literally said you were gonna, like, sleep.

[Moses]

I think in the. In the video at her book signing, she said the host, like, she made a comment about him holding Cassie hostage. So I think they really. Yeah. Was she silent or silenced? That's kind of. That's kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was all boring. I mean, they're all boring. I think I, like, the whole thing is boring. Like, I think Rob's kind of boring. Like, it just kind of like.

[Moses]

Yeah, I think the. It's just. It's almost again, I like a bottom of the barrel. I think they just classed it up a little bit. Housewives reunion gets messy. The girls really are fighting there. But, like, they come with receipts. They come with. Because it's also like, they had all the fan reaction. Like, the Bravo fans. Like, we love a little mess, you know, so we love to stir the pot. So it's just messier, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. This one, I was seated for the finale. Like, I gagged at the finale. Like, I did. Like, I don't care about, like, Robert Moore, but it was a good ending. Holy. Everyone was coming from more. Or calling her, like, dumb. And it's like, I mean, everyone then was dumb because everyone was believing Rob. No one thought he was until it was too late, you know? Yeah.

[Moses]

It's like what Moses said last week. Like, you don't have the information the viewer has.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You know, So I feel like most people in her position probably react this. You and her position.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I tell most of all the time, I'm like, I'm Tara and Johnny. I'm like, what the hell is happening? Oh, yeah, same. Although I don't think I'd be blinded because I do know now, but of course, I'm older. Is like, definitely don't trust a man. Like, I definitely would not be going. I would. I would play along and be like, oh, let's go to the end together. But I definitely would, I think, at some point, like, turn on the man, even if he wasn't a traitor, this was your man. And I don't like you. You know what I mean? Like, I think I would turn.

[Moses]

I think so too, because I'm not.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like, I hate when people like, she's male center. She's male center. But, like, it is like the reality. I was for a long time. And I think it's like, not like a thing to be like, oh, man, I'm so much better than I'm not. But just like anyone, just like blindly trusting your man or going with your man or helping a man to the end. It's just like, not in your best interest. Because we've seen this on Traders too. Is like the men usually always, always turn on the women.

[Moses]

Yes. I wonder if it was like, you're gay man centered, for sure. So I think if it was like a jam jam or something. Yeah. I think you would definitely get bamboozled

[Trisha Paytas]

by a gay male for that, for sure.

[Moses]

But I think even just for the gag of you pulling a stunt on a straight man, like, you would do it. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

And also helping a gay man win, I'd be like, you know what? Either way, we win together.

[Moses]

You win. That's okay. That's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I was saying. I think I said it to jam jam. I kind of would, like, kind of gag. If he, like, trade, you know, was a trainer. I'd be like, you know what? At least I'm helping. At least I'm, you know, if you're

[Oscar]

in a competition like this, if you're not the one strategizing, if you don't have a strategy, that means you are part of somebody else's strategy. Oh, like the fact that she's there and has zero plan. Has absolutely no plan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

To stab somebody in the back or to do something that means that she's going to be the one that's going to be.

[Moses]

Gets played.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because that's just how the game. And we saw it in previous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Episodes too, of the Traitor. Like, you can't just luckily win this thing. There's no luck in it. It's really strategy. So she didn't see it. And I think, you know, she was hypnotized by him, which is normal. It's fine. But it just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm blindly going with the drag queen. I always tell you that. I'm like, I would just like, always, always protect the drag queen. Like, I don't understand. Like, it was like, well, the majority. I was like, no, it doesn't Matter. I said I don't care if it's true. I don't care what. You know what I mean? Like, like you just. I don't know, you just go with who you like.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just feel. You feel it. I don't. I don't know. Because even if, like.

[Moses]

Yeah, you know, that's so funny. I've always thought that too. Because when I. When I used to watch Big Brother and thought about being on it, I would think about my strategy and it literally would be like, I'm gonna be in alliance with someone I actually like. Like. Like what? Of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Don't play personal. What do you mean? I am gonna play personal because if I don't like you, I don't want to work with you and I want you out of my house. Like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I know. I think that's so Tea. Whenever they. Michael Rapport out and they're like, we just don't care if you're traitor faithful. We just want you out. He was the worst of the. Honestly, like, they cut. If they cut so much. The reunion. I don't understand why they put so much of him in there. Cuz Michael Rapport kept, like, he kept doing this like some sort of like saying. He kept trying to do to everyone. Like some sort of like, I don't know, whatever. And they kept. He kept doing it.

[Oscar]

Like, when I speak, you don't speak. Clip it. Clip it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he kept. And it was so obnoxious. And he kept doing.

[Oscar]

Everyone in the room were just like, let's just move on. Let's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And like, why would they air that

[Moses]

housewife so, so bad girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

He wants to be on Housewives.

[Moses]

He want. He's trying to be a housewife. That's Dorinda's thing. Like the clip it.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses]

He just literally plagiarized Dorinda.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's there.

[Moses]

Yes. Like, how are you gonna reheat her nachos and play in her purse right in front of the lady?

[Oscar]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

So that is so weird. Okay, that was even weirder than. I don't know, I guess maybe Annie Cohen likes him or something.

[Moses]

I think they're friends.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's like, even your friend. If you know everyone, sometimes you gotta

[Moses]

just be their friend in private.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? Like, listen, we don't need to. To champion him.

[Moses]

Yeah. Don't put him in front of me. Like, yeah, if you want to do that, whatever, that's on you. But don't force him upon the world.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially like Those viewers, like, we don't want to see him.

[Moses]

Yeah. That's. I just couldn't get into it because of him. So they lost. I hope. I hope they do lose the Emmy just to send a message like, don't pull a casting like that. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Give back to.

[Moses]

Because then I also imagine Michael Rappaport accepting the Emmy. We'll never hear the end of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right. He'll be there with the cast and just be diabolical. Hate it. You watching Survivor?

[Moses]

I haven't started it yet, but I think I am going to start it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's very excited for it.

[Moses]

Huh. Mike White is, like, ripped. I had no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really. I haven't seen abs, I guess because they don't eat, but this is the

[Moses]

first episode before they've even started.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he comes off just. Damn.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like, he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he looks like he would be an unassuming baddie.

[Moses]

In his original season, he was kind of like, more unassuming, I guess. He has that White Lotus money. He has that. He has a trainer. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He locked in. No GLP one needed or maybe. You never know. I just assume everybody is. It's the opposite.

[Moses]

I think he's, like, gained muscle. Like, he hasn't gotten skinnier. He.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, protein everywhere. Your protein shakes. Was it on Patreon where I was like, Oscar, I had 25 grams of protein today. What did you have? You're like 275 in my one.

[Moses]

I didn't look back and measure it. It was like maybe like 180 in one shake.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. I have like 11 grams in my shake. That was wild. I was like, wow.

[Moses]

Well, because, like the three scoops of the protein powder itself, and then you have the. Yeah. The Greek yogurt. If you have peanut butter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Moses]

Spinach.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like spinach and peanut butter.

[Moses]

That sounds berry. Like. Yeah. Berries in there, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like those should be three separate drinks. I don't mind a little green juice, a little berry juice.

[Oscar]

Separate drinks. And she'll have only one of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I'll take a sip of each. I like a berry. Like razzmatazz. I like peanut butter. The chocolate peanut butter. Moo. And then the green juice over at Whole Foods. I. I would. I would take all three and have a little sip. Not all of them together.

[Moses]

Well, I think when they're all in one.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Sometimes it disappears.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like, you don't really taste anything.

[Oscar]

Like when I make the apples with the ginger and the berries, the ginger kind of disappear, but usually it's really strong.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, thank you. Pass on the. But I do love all that protein. That does sound exciting. I'm very, I'm a protein girly these days too. I try and get it in.

[Moses]

Yeah, protein really is on your mind lately.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do, I love a protein bar for like a. Not a meal replacement, but kind of instead of doing three meals a day, I try to have two meals in a protein bar.

[Moses]

Okay. Work.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel muscular, I feel strong. I'm trying to gain muscle too. You know, I try to be in that.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pilates gym because I would like to be stronger. I'm getting there because everybody wants to be picked up and now I have a three and a half year old and a two year old that wants to be picked up at the same time. And I'm like, oof. Moses can do it. So they expect me to too. They're like, pick both of us up. I'm like, well, I do a relay now. I take one up and then I take the other up. It's very. I don't know how you do both. I'm gonna be there one day. I've been trying to strengthen my back. What I learned from Pilates is to do everything from your core and don't make it so hard on your legs and arms to kind of like, like lift from your core, like zip up. And that's what I'm trying to do. I'm getting there, I'm getting there. Still kind of hard. But he's better than picking up nobody, which is what I was doing. How much can you lift? Like how much could you pick up a person? Could you pick up a 300 pound person?

[Moses]

300. I don't know, I've never tried. But maybe, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you pick Darian up?

[Moses]

I could do you sometimes, I guess. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you? In one situation. I love that

[Moses]

like sometimes I'll just like throw them on my back, I guess. And sometimes he does meet you, but I get a little scared because I weigh more than him.

[Trisha Paytas]

But okay.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just for funsies. Yeah, I love that. That's cute.

[Moses]

Maybe I'm trying to think of a math of like how much I lift versus like I don't know. But each exercise is different, I guess. I, I am stronger than I, I when many people would think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, I think you people think you're strong. I think people think you're really strong actually.

[Moses]

Well, I don't know cuz I was with my trainer and with my trainer who was like really big and like he's a professional. Lifter and I like just got on the equipment with him and then some guy comes up to me who was like, he looked strong but like was really weak. He was like are you almost done with this? Like. And I was like, what the. I literally just sat here and also like you're not even doing anything correctly. Like so he kind.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was lifting correctly.

[Moses]

Lifting terribly like and like and like low weight and stuff. He was just like a mess, like a clown. And he was sitting here trying to bully me off the bench. I'm like no because I'm in these little short shorts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Moses]

And it was my version of short. If it was Jimmy Wetzel he would have been hate crying live at the 24 Hour Fitness because those his shorts are little.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know he's been sick the past week. I haven't seen his gym updates because he's been.

[Moses]

They'll come back fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love doing short shirts. I know everybody see him. I was like, wow, I wish I could pull it off. Like I used. I used to love a short short too. But my, my legs, you know what it is is like if anyone has big thighs, maybe they know my shorts go up in like a V in the middle.

[Moses]

Yes. I know what you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know and it's just like annoying cuz you have to always pull them out. And I love a short and I'm not embarrassed by my legs. I wear them out. Cuz last week I was all about showing off my legs but pulling it down is annoying. One day.

[Moses]

Oh for. We didn't even get to my trader's. Hot topic though was Colton addressing the Cassie allegations scandal for like the first time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know if I saw this part or I wasn't paying attention.

[Moses]

He finally commented on the whole situation with Cassie. He said, I think what I can understand from people viewing me back on television, if you didn't follow my story and what I went through and you watched me as The Bachelor in 2019, then all of a sudden you're tuning into 2026. That I had an incredible difficult couple of years and I've grown and I changed. Love that. And I put in so much work into myself, into my family. I never really thought that I would show up and play traitors would be linked to one of the darkest and most horrible moments in my life. He said that there's a part of me I could see why people are talking about it but it is also for me very challenging thing to go through because I was not in a great place. And he said like when he met with Peacock to get on the Traitors, he said that he would only do it if it's focused on his strategy and not about, like, the person, his personal life.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean? The show?

[Moses]

Yeah, he did do the show. Like, he didn't want them bringing up anything outside of the game because he has a family now. So he didn't want. Yeah. You can't really avoid it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. As someone also who's grown and changed, has a family, it's like you. You, like, you just can't pick and choose. You can't just be like, I'll do this. If it's this condition, don't talk about anything in the past. It's like, well, especially if he's never addressed it before either. It's like, well, at least now, at least you guess you could say he's addressed it. It somewhat apologize. As he. I don't know if he's made a public apology.

[Moses]

He does. He kind of explains it. He said it was 2020. I. It was. As people remember Covid, I was fully convinced that she. She was going to be my last straight relationship. He said, like, I was either going to have to myself or come out. Like, that's where he was mentally. So. And that's kind of what I figured, just based off of, like, like, him coming out, like, later in life, like, after being the Bachelor and, like, being in this relationship, I figured this mentally was not in a, like, a good place. Obviously, if he's, like, terrorizing, you know, his partner, clearly he's not in a good place.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So I never questioned that. I think it's just the avoiding talking about it out of, like, just wanting it to go away. But if you have, like, a real life victim.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

It's just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Explanation's always great. But also, like, you also have to apologize because that's not right.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Harming someone.

[Moses]

I think the more you try to run from it, like, the worse that it gets. And also like, yeah, being in a serious relationship, being a father, a gay relationship, too, like, obviously, that's great. But I mean, as you know, too, like, you're in such a. You're in a complete 180, like, different ways. And people have seen you, like, again, like, five years ago, literally. Same as Colton, you know, five years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But still, you have to. If people bring something up, you're like, yeah, that was terrible. Like, I'm sorry. You just have to, like, always apologize

[Trisha Paytas]

the rest of your life.

[Moses]

And you can't just be like, don't Ask me about. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's wild. I think you always. Yeah. If it gets brought up, you need to talk about it. And like you're on the Traders, you're on the biggest show ever. And if there's no trail of you ever talking about this before, or even if there is, it's like that's something you live with the rest of your life.

[Moses]

I think too, like every time he's addressed it, it was like in the PR way. Like I think after it, the stuff with Cassie happened and then he came out, he was doing press and he brought it up in that one or two interviews. But it was so like generic. Like I just wasn't in a good place. But it's all, you know, we live, learn, blah, blah, blah. Like it was so pr, but like if again, if there's a receipts and in court, you know, we see the list of things that you did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you got it.

[Moses]

You can't just give the PR spin. Just give us the realness, you know, Like, I guess the. That's kind of what's been missing with him is like the sincere earnestness. Like his explanation, like, does give great context, but you gotta like let us in then, you know what I mean? Like, don't try to be like the cool guy still, you know, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or just brush on the rug. I think that's why a lot of people still with Taylor, Frankie Paul, because people always like think it's controversial that she's the Bachelorette because she also, you know, has a DV charge against her or she got arrested for it anyways. And like, you know, there's a whole list of things with her and it's like, I feel like she at least addressed it not to be like, I don't know, the greatest person ever, but like, you know, at least you address it and people kind of respect that. Cuz everyone goes through, like we were saying, like everyone has. They deal with their low moments, alcoholism, obviously, sexuality. There's just so much that you go through. I think if you can like talk about it, most people can like relate and accept it. Especially if the people around you accept it, then like the audience will. But yeah, he always came across just jealous.

[Oscar]

That is the thing about life is like when you are in difficult places not to commit crimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

That is because most people at some point face a difficult place.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And it's hard. It is hard not to commit those crimes. That's true. I don't know if I did. I don't think I did I was like, did I? I thought about it, and in my head, sometimes you're like, oh, I think I did that. And they're like, no, I don't think I did. I don't think I did. I don't think I have a mug shot. No.

[Moses]

I feel like I would have seen your mug.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I never got arrested. That's something.

[Moses]

Tana can't say that, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Little Coachella mugshot.

[Moses]

That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy. I know. I don't know the lore. Every time I do not love, I find more and more. I'm like, wow, I really missed so many chapters.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gotta read that book. When she has one come out. Cause she's always telling me something. I'm like, what? That's so crazy. Right? That was a crazy incident. She wants to go back. She loves Coachella. We gotta go this year.

[Moses]

Yeah, T. Especially if that's Mano's comeback performance. Like, we gotta be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm seated.

[Moses]

Yeah. Oh, speaking of books, Sophia Franklin's book, Honestly, she did kind of gag me

[Trisha Paytas]

with the COVID The cover's great.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

She announced it last week. And how she described it was, she said, my story has only been told for me, and if you asked me to write this book five years ago ago, you would have gotten a different story. Fearful, vengeful, insecure, wounded with something to prove. I couldn't live truthfully until I told it in my own words, on my own terms, and in the most radically honest way I know how. And then the description of the book and the summary is, long before the Internet was watching, Sophia Franklin learned to disappear. Dysfunction was normal and escape was instinct. New York City offered reinvention. And there she met Alex Cooper. They moved quickly. Roommates, best friends, lovers, business lovers.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, what?

[Moses]

Okay, that would have been the gag.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would have been the gang.

[Moses]

If she spills that to you, that's something fierce. If she has a munching box, that is fierce to me. She's got me. I'll get that friggin audiobook.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny.

[Moses]

She said the book says call her daddy. Became an overnight success after the show's 2018 launch. But as each episode reached number one on the podcast chart charts, the fast friendship between Cooper and Franklin imploded. In hindsight, the warning signs were everywhere. Secrets, omissions, things left unsaid. Millions watched as Sophia went from one half of a beloved duo to the villain in the Internet's messiest breakup. She found herself at rock bottom again. Not by the familiar hands of men, but by the unexpected betrayal of another woman. What followed was a private collapse that forced a record reckoning, leading Sophia to interrogate her ambition and the cost of being understood as a headline. That's fierce. The creative writing there is fierce. I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's good. I have zero interest, but I'm not. I'm not the demographic because I know people are gagged, they're seated, everyone's like, yes, this is the story went. I never cared before, during, or after. But I'm sure it's gonna be. I'm sure people will love it. I'm sure people will. People want to know, right? People were gagged, like, oh, my God. I remember when, like, the title. It's a clever title too. Yeah. I had no idea the COVID was. I guess it's like a ripped picture of Alex Cooper. People knew.

[Moses]

It's like a. The. It's like all white and then it's a photo of her and Alex. I just assumed. I honestly know nothing about the lore of caller daddy, to be honest. Yeah, but it's like her and then the photo, the person next to her is ripped out from the photo. And that's kind of gaggy to me, and that's kind of fierce. It kind of is the gay and girly, like, social network. Like, you know, you come up with this great idea of. And then, you know, some people reap the benefits and others don't, even though they were a part of, you know, its inception. So that is kind of fun to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. People are, like, so excited for it. I'm sure. I know it was like such a big deal and everybody wants to know, so congrats. I have nothing to really add because I know nothing, so. But you love it. Obviously you're excited.

[Moses]

Am I excited? I have, like, never been truly invested in this lore. I feel like they all, like, Alex had her own, like, reality series docu series where she kind of talked about it. I feel like Sophia, maybe not the full tea, but I feel like she's through interviews and in her podcast, has dropped nuggets of the lore.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a full sit down front.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what happened?

[Moses]

Like, what kind of bombshells could possibly be in there? I don't know. I do. I guess I am more excited. Excited about any mess that could ensue. But I will say Alex Cooper is really buttoned up. Like, she has such a fierce publicist, such a fierce machine and empire that I feel like is whatever comes out of it, she's gonna keep it moving. So that is kind of like, you know, you do love a good back and forth within the mess of it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But I think Alex Cooper is going to keep it moving, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It was kind of shady though, because Alex Earl did like, like the announcement post from Sophia and obviously Alex Earl has drama leaving the unwell network.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So that is kind of t I too, I guess. But I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, all of it. I'm just, you know, I love a little drama some places here. And this drama gives me nothing. This drama gives me nothing. And it kind of gave me nothing. Like, I, I do, I think Alex was very nice. Obviously I've like been on, but I am more like fascinated how big call her daddy got and like all these deals. She can like contro mom Jesus like that to me. But I, I, I'm not seated for anything.

[Moses]

You're standing up and walking away. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like I like to call her daddy Clubs, they get good guests. Sophia with app has James Charles. You know what I mean? And it's like, I'm glad she's doing this book. This does sound like it could be something big for her and that's probably a better angle for her to go. So like I said, it could be the next social network. Who knows? And I would love that, like, for her, like, good for her. She should get a bag, you know, tea.

[Moses]

But if she writes in that book that she was munching Alex Cooper's box, I think you would come back and you would have a seat with me. I think I, that's the. No, you're still.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm still standing. I'm still waiting for the big arch.

[Moses]

But you were gagged for a moment when I said lovers, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I was for a moment. Then I was over it. It's like, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah, No, I think it's, I think it's good.

[Moses]

That is too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't read like a, a YouTuber book. Is she a YouTuber? No, like a social media person book in a while. What was the last one I read?

[Moses]

Ooh, I don't even know if I can remember actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, I feel like what? I read memoirs. Like, I love Jessica Simpson and I loved Pam. I think, like recent ones. Rebel Wilson's. I read. I don't know, not really seated.

[Moses]

I don't know if I know either. Maybe Gen X Penn's book I read.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you read it?

[Moses]

It? Yeah. Someone gifted it to me once, I think at Trishmas or something. Someone gifted it to me. But it was kind of more of a scrapbook, so I don't know if that really counts. I think she was like, 17 when she wrote this. When she wrote this book. So. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Miss has a cookbook. I'm seeing it for you.

[Moses]

There we go. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Super gay comes out. June. That's Frankie Grande's memoir.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Work

[Moses]

well. Why us? Why us?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't have much else. Babe, you have something to say about this? Trying to defer to my other co host, huh?

[Oscar]

No. Her daddy was never on my radar

[Trisha Paytas]

until you were on it Never was on my radar.

[Moses]

Really. I'm the whole barstool network. I never really am familiar with. It is gaggy. The concept of it is gaggy to me, though. Like, imagine like, with just Trish. Like, I took it and then, like, left you out of $125 million deal. And it was me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, at least change the name.

[Moses]

Hey, Trish Gang.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right, right. Yeah. I guess if I knew anything about it, maybe I'd be a little more interested. But I just. I don't. I just don't care, honestly. But. But a lot of people do. So, like, I know I'm in the. In the minority of this, so.

[Oscar]

But I do remember the breakup and the whole thing. Like, because it wasn't just. Yeah, because they walked into it with. And she pretty much took herself out wherever the boyfriend manager at the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

No idea.

[Oscar]

And they were asking certain things. So I think it just.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you know about all this?

[Oscar]

Because that was more.

[Trisha Paytas]

He read the memoir. How did you know about it? Like, where did you hear about it? Because I feel like that was not even in my oracle.

[Oscar]

It was at the time that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

We knew about it.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, when was it we were together? When they did the break. When they did this? No, I swear. It was like, before quarantine. Am I wrong?

[Oscar]

We somehow somebody was talking about it. Like it was in TikTok. So either she was talking about somebody was talking about. Because I think she got backlash for it. And then the information started coming out

[Trisha Paytas]

that was like, way before we met. But maybe it rained.

[Oscar]

Because I think the deal she got. We were together when she got her deal. The big one. The first big one.

[Moses]

The first one was 2018. That was with Dave Portnoy.

[Oscar]

But that's when they both together moved to bars.

[Trisha Paytas]

When they do a breakup.

[Oscar]

We're talking about after bars, too. After the breakup.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. In 2020 is when they broke up.

[Trisha Paytas]

What month?

[Moses]

Late spring, it says so I don't

[Trisha Paytas]

Know if we were watching Call Her Daddy drama when we first met?

[Oscar]

No, but I think the information about

[Trisha Paytas]

it slowly after maybe I honestly, I could have watched a whole documentary and not remember it. I've been like, yeah, you did. I remember nothing of 2020. Funny.

[Moses]

Although Hillary Duff on Call Her Daddy was. Was tea. Although some people said she came off as a mean girl

[Trisha Paytas]

a little bit. I mean that's why everyone's any my chance to have Ron I do love. You know, I love Hilary Duff as my nostalgia. I kind of agree a little bit.

[Moses]

Okay. I only saw a couple clips, so

[Trisha Paytas]

maybe I'm missing then you kind of always like, was she always. And Mean Girl I use very loosely. Like, I don't think she's like the worst person ever. But when you like look back, we talk about her like camp interview, but they're kind of like shady me like when she was talking about the fade on away and she's like, I guess I would be mad too if I look like that. You know what I mean? Like, it gives mean girl for sure. No, she does come across a little bit. I'm a little scared for sure. I don't think I'd want to be in a mom group with her. I don't think we would mesh. You know what I mean? I love her. Unfortunately. I love Lizzie McGuire. Like, I really do love her. But I think killer deaf as a person. Yeah. Though even the way she was like, like not defending but kind of like, you know, sticking up for her husband when he was being mean and to Ashley tail and she. I thought it was funny and like, I'm never going to tell him not to post anything. It's like, like she is mean girl, but, you know, she's already done. But I think people kind of like her for being the mean girl.

[Moses]

That is funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. She just. There was another thing she said on the call, her daddy too, that came across kind of. Oh. And she asked was it. Was it called Daddy when she asked about the that so gay psa and she's like, oh, you know, I don't think Hillary Duff sees like the joke in it. I think she thinks like, you know, she's. I think she's right. She's like, it really helped a lot of people at the time. I don't know if she really gets the gag, the meme of it because she was okay. I guess like people on the Internet found it or whatever. But it still helps a lot of people. I'm like, hey, if it does, it does. And like I like that for her. I like whatever bubble she lives in and I love it. Yeah, I mean, all the mom groups sound horrible. Honestly, I don't think I'd want to be in anyone's mom group. But

[Moses]

yeah. Yeah, it's so funny to me because I feel like Alex Cooper is the only one who can get away with those questions. Because I was just imagining, like, another, like a traditional outlet asking these and it being like the publicist just dragging Hillary away. I guess Cooper really does get free reign to ask whatever the hell she wants, which is fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, then people complain that she doesn't do the follow up questions. Like, people like, what? There was something. Hillary dusted me just like, not knowing any of this. She said something and everyone's like, why would she not follow up?

[Moses]

I forgot I saw that with the Lindsay Lohan thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, maybe that was it.

[Moses]

Because obviously the big viral moment was like, did you purposely crash the Freaky Friday premiere? She said yes. And then when she talked about, like, oh, yeah. Then Lindsay came up to me in the club and was like, are we good? Then we did a shot. People were like, wait, but like, what's the lore there?

[Trisha Paytas]

That is kind of big, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Where's the follow up there? I do think Alex Cooper just gets the list of questions and it's like, okay, red, next question. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yes.

[Moses]

Whereas I don't know if, like, she's think she's. And I think she's like, you know, listening and like, laughing along, but I don't think she's thinking, like, actively thinking of, like, her next, like, organically the next question. I think she's very well produced. Yes, I know there is a gay in there that's very like, so in the weeds. And it's like, we need to ask her about that because that's like the me. There is an Oscar over there who's so chronically online that is like, everyone was talking about this when Freaky Friday came out last year. We have to ask about this again. Because also again at et, I went in the the vault and I was like, we have to cover Hillary Duff crashing the premiere when the original Freaky Friday was coming out. And I did this whole video and I angled it that. And my manager was like, this is too messy. Like, because we don't know for sure. But then when this came out, manager is like, okay, now that it's confirmed,

[Trisha Paytas]

we can go back and break it down.

[Moses]

So there is an Oscar over there at the Unwell Network who's Doing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, we. I think we met. I don't know if he was the producer, but there definitely is a gay guy we met over there that was like. That was definitely like, tick tock. He knew everything. I was like, wow, you really know everything. There's always one that's. I met Devin, too, when I did the Funny to show. Vanitas asked me such, like, deep, like, niche questions. I'm like, you know, like, Devin. And I was like, okay. I was like, you are good. Because I was like, this is so. Yeah, there's always one.

[Moses]

And I know whoever wrote this question. The Freaky Friday premiere question for Hillary Duff is the one who asked Catherine Pa. When she was on about Tana Mongeau. Like, the beef with. I know. It is the same gay. The same gay who set up Tana to ask Catherine about her. The drama with her. Yeah, I know. They also wrote for Hillary Duff. Asked about Lindsay Lohan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Meghan Trainor had one, too. I don't think he works for her anymore. I think you know him. Do you know Chris Pepe?

[Moses]

Yeah, I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. He was here with someone with. So anyways, it does matter. But he. He's another. Yes. He's also very. I just. I love people who are just get it. And I'm like, he's another one that just gets it when you meet them, it's always a cool gay guy. You're always just like, this makes sense, actually. And call her daddy. There was a cool gay guy there.

[Moses]

See?

[Trisha Paytas]

And again, Alex, like, super nice, but I don't think she's. She, like, knows that much or cares. Not much. Obviously. She's busy. She's like, I don't need to know everything about every little guest that comes my way. I like being on. I want to go on it again. I love it because it is. It is popular. It's big. It's a phenomenon. So I'm seated for it, you know, just like anything that's big. Like, j. I was like, okay, she's so big. I don't know. But if someone's popular. Amy Poehler, sometimes even the Avon. I hate to say I'm kind of

[Moses]

like, wait, armchair expert.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll go on there.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work the actual Dax.

[Moses]

Yeah, Dax.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll go on there. Someone was asking me a list of podcasts, and that was on there. And I was like, sure, sure.

[Moses]

What the hell?

[Oscar]

Sure.

[Moses]

Yeah, why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Y' all see me on there next to Dax. Just be like, dax, you're so funny.

[Moses]

You and Kristin goals.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love actually oh, my God. It's actually so funny. No, I definitely am hypocritical of most things. Sophia, with an F. I am not. But that's only because there's personal beef there. But squash, it's squash.

[Moses]

And honestly, at the club.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll take it, girl. No, I think it's actually fine. And actually I'm, like, happy for. Because I know it'll be, like, big. People will be excited for it. But there's just like, certain things in life like, that I don't get excited for that people get like the super bowl and you know what I mean? It's just like, don't get excited.

[Moses]

I feel you on some things. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spider Man. Not that excited. You know, I'm like. But I get it. People are excited.

[Moses]

But you did buy, like, all the Andrew Garfield Spider man shirts after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, well, Andrew Garfield specifically type out the Spider Man. I think about.

[Moses]

I think you just bought Andrew Garfield.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Garfield. I like him. But I might. He might have been wearing a Spider Man. We have been buying a lot of Spider man stuff because Spidey verse. Yes. Spidey verse is taking over our house. And we do love that. But I don't love that. I don't watch it. But they love Spider Man. They love Spider Man.

[Moses]

But you saw no Way Home with before Malibu, didn't you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one's that?

[Moses]

That's the. With the three of them. Toby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because he came out in that Tammy Fey movie and then I was

[Moses]

like, well, oh, that. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like. And then he did tick, tick, boom. And I was like, I love him. All right, let's go see Spider Man. Why the hell not? And I did not get it. I don't get Spider Man.

[Moses]

Yeah, but you did buy the shirt. Because I remember. I just remember because I bought the same shirt that you. Because you influenced me. Wow. Yeah. It's back in 2020.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, 2021. I think I was. I think I wore it to the Maldives. Actually. Actually, I think I was in, like, a first class pod wearing it. I do. You're right. Yes.

[Moses]

And I bought one on Etsy. It was like, classic. Like the different. Like the collage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Oh, my God, not me gaslighting you. So sorry. I truly just don't have a memory. That's why when Mo's like, we talked about call her daddy, I was like, we probably did. And I, like, don't remember at all. So that's not gaslighting if you just have a bad memory. Okay. Don't come for me. For my it was. Oh, yeah. It's not funny, but it's funny. SNL did like, a Cut for Time sketch about, like, Tourette's. Did you see that again?

[Moses]

Time and place. Although, damn, that Connor story.

[Trisha Paytas]

You like him so.

[Moses]

I do, I do. He's so, like. And just, like, very pretty. Like, he's so pretty, so talented. He really has the world at his fingertips right now, which is, like, people do love him.

[Trisha Paytas]

His after party was lit at the

[Moses]

SNL and he went to the Actor Awards literally early the next day. So he was in la? Yes. And then he flew. Oh, so he left the party and then. Or woke up really early and then flew to la.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess it's probably easier to come back from New York because you, like, gain some time. Oh, right. You gain a few hours. And if you took a private jet, he probably had the pj.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what was it? Morgan Wallen.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. Take Me to God's country, which was la, I suppose. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think was going to Nashville. But yeah, God's Country's LA for Connor Story.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do think you would get along with him because he. He does. Like, he's in the clown scene.

[Trisha Paytas]

The clown?

[Moses]

Yeah, like, there's a clown scene in la. Like a clown show. Like, it's almost like improv, I guess, somewhere in la.

[Trisha Paytas]

Clown show?

[Moses]

Yeah, it's like acting and improv and stuff. And he's. He does clown classes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Give her a go.

[Moses]

No, but he did get me intrigued. I think I'd be bad at it. I mean, we've talked about how we think we'd be bad at improv, but I'd be horrible.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate the idea of it.

[Moses]

We have Meg Stalter as our improv

[Trisha Paytas]

coach because when she comes on, we'll do a little improv class because I think I would be horrible.

[Moses]

She was such a gag at the Actor Awards with her little bit with Paul W. Downs when they were presenting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loved it so much.

[Moses]

Me too. And I'm almost scared because everyone loved it. I'm like, damn, is she just going to get too famous?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I am scared. That was my movie now. I know. I think she will. I think she definitely will have that moment. I think she has obvious. She's been on. On like five seasons of packs, but I think she will.

[Moses]

She just charmed everyone. Like she. Everyone was like, damn, if you don't see the vision before, then you have to see it now. She's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I've always. I always loved it. I loved the show too. Much. Last year. It was kind of like under the radar, I feel it didn't get good reviews, but, like, I loved it. And she's like, honestly, hacks. That's like why we started, like, loving it. We watched, like the first and then her character was like, I love her character so much on it. It's a good show. I love her. What were they presenting?

[Moses]

Best actor in a drama series.

[Trisha Paytas]

The one. Do you remember?

[Moses]

God, I forgot.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, wasn't the pit people.

[Moses]

Maybe it was. No, Wiley. I know he did win, but I don't remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

What else has he been in?

[Moses]

He was in er, I think with George. Yeah, with George Clooney. That's why everyone was gag. He's like, oh, he's in another medical show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

That was kind of the sell.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what he does, I suppose.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should just stick to always what? You know. You know, like, I like. I like a typecast where you just play the same character. Right.

[Moses]

Are you speaking from experience?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yes, but, you know, actors always are. Like, who was it recently? Oh, I think it was. Maybe it wasn't recent, but I just saw Emilia Clarke was talking about how she was offered the role in 58°.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she had said no. Cause she already had done too much nudity and she wanted to do more nudity and be known as the nude actress. And I was like. But girl, like, that's a role. That's a big role. Just keep being that. You know what I mean? Like, I. I get kind of expanding. But like, Jacob Lord, he's kind of always Jacob Lordy. I know it's like controversial because he's played like the. He's played the creature and he's played Elvis and he's played. He. He's always a different accent. Sure. But like, always kind of Jacob Elordi. Right. And I don't think it's bad. I love him. I'm like on a kick right now, but he gives me the same.

[Moses]

I don't know. You haven't seen the kissing booth. Clearly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely not want to see that. Well, maybe I should. Maybe I. Is he play someone different?

[Moses]

I think he does have an American accent in that, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he doesn't euphoria too, right?

[Moses]

Oh, you're so right. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Elvis, he had a Southern accent. And then.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

If he's a British accent, that's true. And the creature has no accent. You know what I mean? It's just like. Yeah, I think he just gets the same, but not a bad way. Mark Robbie kind of do, like, she's always a hot blonde. Like Wolf of Wall street and Barbie and not Natania. Yeah, right. She's more crazy blonde, but still hot blonde. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. You know, I don't know who's, like, real diverse. Who gives range? Nobody, you know, I mean, everyone's kind of themselves.

[Moses]

No, there's definitely. I just can't think of someone right now, but I'm sure there's someone who has really diverse performances.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know what you mean. Yeah. There has to be. But I can't think either.

[Moses]

There has to be. Yeah, you let us know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Someone's gonna talk us and be like, actually, this person. Like, oh, yeah, they're actually very good.

[Moses]

Yeah, I'm sure. I really can't think of one off the top of my head.

[Oscar]

Rogan, he's never the same.

[Moses]

Oh, that was a bit. I couldn't tell.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. It's that hour where no one's been eating. Yeah. I was like, okay. All I did have was the MOTs, because I was in a hurry. I didn't even have any curly fries or anything.

[Moses]

Oh, I did have a quick movie one. It's not really that much tv. I was intrigued by it because it is kind of messy because Scream 7 just came out and you know Anna Camp from Pitch Perfect?

[Trisha Paytas]

Anna Camp is the lesbian in real life. Yeah.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But wasn't used to be. But now she's lesbian.

[Moses]

Recently.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yes. Lesbian.

[Moses]

Well, she got into some backlash, like, literally yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Moses]

Because she posted a Instagram story that was celebrating the success of. Of Scream, but it said the post, like, it was just like a text post. It was like a photo with, like a long. It was like, I think maybe a tweet that she shared. And it. The text was. Boycotts didn't work. The critics hate didn't work. The pathetic leaks didn't work. What worked was audiences coming out and making the film and a success. Audiences, casual moviegoers and fans, have overwhelmingly shown up for this movie in the face of a smear campaign by critics due to political reasons, an online boycott that has ranged from annoying to harassment and horrible. Folks leaking clips of the film before release trying to spoil the movie was the caption of the post. And then she added the song Karma by Taylor Swift. Oh. And it was kind of a mess because the boycott, again, Scream, was because the studio fired Melissa Barrera because she spoke out in support of Palestine and

[Trisha Paytas]

that's why they fired her.

[Moses]

Yes. Because she was also one of the first. Which is crazy, because I feel like, so many actors have spoken out to support Palestine, but she was one of the first, so they fired her. And then Jenna Ortega left the movie because she was really close with Melissa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

And the. The. The duo. The director and writer duo that were leading the film also left too. So they spent $500,000 getting the.1 of the original writers and directors to come back and then rewrite the script because it was going to be all around Jenna Ortega and Melissa Barrera. But then they lost him. So then they brought back Neve Campbell and. Yeah. And the movie was successful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is Anna Camp in it?

[Moses]

Yes, and Anna Camp is in it for three minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's riding hard. And me for euphoria. Just ride hard no matter what.

[Moses]

I'm just crazy because she usually is pretty, like, unproblematic.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like she was problematic sometime before. God, I feel like she had another scandal because she sounds familiar.

[Moses]

I only know her from Pitch Perfect.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, same. Oh, and you. But I feel like around you, she. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe I'm just making it up. I thought because, like, she's come in the sphere before and I'm like, wait, how do I know her? Nope, no prior scandal.

[Moses]

I know. I. Let me go doing Anna Camp problematic.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I need to come up.

[Moses]

Just this new thing with Scream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. That's why, like, the big one.

[Moses]

Oh, I guess she has an age gap relationship. Is that what you're thinking of?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. What is hers?

[Moses]

Her girlfriend's 24 and she's 42.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. No, that's not what I was thinking. That's interesting. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Why.

[Moses]

I have no idea. But I. I was kind of surprised by that because I always thought of her as, like, you know, pretty low key. And then she had. Once she started getting backlash for it, she did tweet an apology. She said, it has come to my attention that I. I reposted someone else's story that does not reflect my personal beliefs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Moses]

I have since deleted the repost, cuz I absolutely meant no harm. I'm sorry. To anyone who was affected.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So she did. I kind of get that. I guess. I guess you see something and you're like, it's a part of your film. And you're just like, yay, okay, I'll repost this. Because, like, whatever. Not knowing the. The implications of it, the heaviness of it. I don't know.

[Moses]

I know. I try. I really did try to do the mental gymnastics to be like, okay, well, maybe. But it does. It's so focused on, like, the politics and the boycott. Like, it's so specific. And also, like, she didn't have, you know, 20 stories. It was like, maybe she had, like, three stories up. So it was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right. So she knew.

[Moses]

I would almost believe you because you have, like, a behavioral pattern of just reposting and liking Willy, Nick, Millie. Like, because you just. You. You see, like, two words.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's giving them kind of like cat's eyes, dad. Where they're like. They're meaning. Well, like, he still wants people to support the group. Like, she means well. He still support this movie. But, like, you don't get why everyone's turning against it. Maybe.

[Moses]

I'm hoping maybe because I actually didn't

[Trisha Paytas]

know that girl was fired for anything.

[Moses]

Because the movie did really well. It's like, the biggest opening. Opening for Scream over the weekend. I think it made, like, over 40 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you see it?

[Moses]

No, Because I only started watching Scream because of Jenna Ortega and Melissa Barrera.

[Trisha Paytas]

So crazy. They lost you.

[Moses]

They did. It's also, like, easy for me to, like, boycott because I don't have, like, an attachment to the franchise, obviously. So it was easier for me to be like, I can just sit this one out. But I remember being upset from Melissa Barrera.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And it was kind of weird, too, because some of the original. Original actors, like, the younger actors, like, stayed on for this one. But then obviously you have Jenna, who's like, no. Like, if she's gone, I'm gone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But, yeah, it run me the wrong way. And then they didn't have Neve Campbell before. Like, in the last one, they didn't. Wouldn't pay her enough for Scream 6. So she was like, I'm not gonna come back. You're not paying me what I'm worth. But now, once they lost Jenna and Melissa, they're like, damn, we gotta bring her back. Let's pay her $7 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that crazy? People are still like. Like, she's a draw for those movies. Is it just because she was the first?

[Moses]

I think. Yeah. I think she is. Like, she's Sydney. Like, yeah, she is, but she doesn't really have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not. No shade. She's not really like. And she obviously doesn't need success outside of this, but there's no other films that she's successful in. Just these.

[Moses]

I think this is her big. Yeah, it's like her big.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I love that. I wish I had one role that I could play forever. People are Gay year.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I would love to do that. That'd be amazing, actually. But that's wild.

[Moses]

That's nostalgia bait. Yeah. I do think also Matthew Lillard being back and that's not really a spoiler because he's doing press for the movie, so obviously he's in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He's everywhere.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he might be coming on this show. Someone passed along a letter, Someone I know knows him really well. And they're like, can you write a letter? They're like, can you write a letter? And I was like, okay, am I writing a letter to you or to him? Like, how so I'm. My dear Matthew Lillard. So he's like, okay, send it. Let me. I'll let you know if I, you know, let me know if you hear anything. Whatever. And then he's like, update. He said he's received it and did it with thumbs up. And I was like, work. Okay. Like, he didn't have to say that. He don't have to be like, received. You know what I mean? So I think we're getting closer. He is kind of like my dream. He's been my dream guest for a while. He has been. And I've been saying this for a very long time. Clock it. Like, ever since I was a little kid, everyone was like, you look like that guy from Scream. Always so twin. Where have you been? I would. I would gag.

[Moses]

I know that would be gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should be in the new Scooby Doo.

[Moses]

As who? Scrappy Doo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Velma.

[Moses]

Okay. Would love. I heard it's going to be Ariana Greenblatt. The rumor is she is going to be Velma.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's 2026 and they could do a little gender swapping.

[Moses]

But me being like 20 years older than McKenna Grace. Like, oh, yeah, we met at. We met at high other.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do that all the time. It's always like that.

[Moses]

I forgot to bring this up as a hot topic. This is a great one to end on. McKenna Grace was on good and mythical kitchen. Mythical Rhett and Link. The kitchen morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

She had the last meal. Or she was with Wet and Link.

[Moses]

She was with Rhett and Lane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Moses]

So. But she talked about food. So I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I think it might have been good Mythical morning.

[Moses]

Okay. Tea. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think.

[Moses]

And she said she has never had pepperoni pizza or a cheeseburger.

[Trisha Paytas]

And me, I don't think I have either.

[Moses]

You try to get the archburger, like, Right, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't know. I was like, Have I had a cheeseburger? I only had it with cheese or pepperoni? Either. Why? What was the gag?

[Moses]

Well, everyone was just like, how could you not have the most, like, normal everyday foods?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, pepperoni is disgusting. Like, I.

[Moses]

Okay. Burger, pepperoni pizza. Nor chicken wings. Never had any of those before.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could believe it. I don't think I've had chicken wings. So I met you. I think I was definitely. When we had to kfc, you got dark meat. I was like, I'm gonna try this dark meat too. I don't think I've ever had the dark meat before.

[Moses]

But you never had, like, a wing. Stop.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wing.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, maybe a nugget. Like a boneless one.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Is she saying she never had chicken in her life? Like, that's. Wings are so specific. They're with the bone, and it's a specific thing. I think the boneless wings don't count, but I think that's very. I think that's very possible. She's so young, so it's like. Yeah, I could see that. Picky eater. I know lots of people probably have a cheeseburger. I never had a cheeseburger. Truly. I don't think I ever had one. We think, yeah. Someone clock a time where I had

[Moses]

a hamburger, but it's just no cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. But she could have had a plain hamburger. My kids eat plain hamburgers.

[Moses]

Burger, Burger. She's never ate a burger. I know. Sorry. I'm editing myself here. She never ate a burger, pepperoni pizza, nor a chicken wing before.

[Oscar]

Was she vegetarian?

[Moses]

She said she used to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a more logical. I was about to say pick me over there, but yes. Yes.

[Moses]

It's not that there's no desire. It's just that I want it to be the right burger.

[Trisha Paytas]

You could probably ask Album and Barker the same thing. And she's probably never had any of those. You know what I mean? Like, she's grew up vegan her whole life. That's the tea right there, Moses. Good job.

[Moses]

Okay, so if you were to give her your recommendations for which burger, chicken wing, or pizza to get, since she's never pepperoni pizza, I guess because she's never had it before, where would you tell her to go?

[Trisha Paytas]

Domino's for sure. Domino's for the pizza. In and out for the burger. And the chicken wings is hard. She want chicken wings or chicken tenders?

[Moses]

She says wings specifically.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess Wingstop is the universal we love. Right.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

How about you?

[Moses]

Ooh. I. For pizza. That's kind of tough. That is Tough. I guess I'll do a chain because so when everyone knows, you know. I don't remember what it was called. Was it Prince Street? The one that like, they sent you the pizza?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, with too much pepperonis. Don't go there. They send you 5,000 pepperonis. Pepperonis. That was the craziest pepperoni pizza I've ever seen in my life. It almost was like an attack, like a personal attack. I was like, oh my God. It was just all pepperoni.

[Oscar]

Yes. Like boxes and you know, it's like whenever you open boxes, you, you think there'll be a variety. It's like open one. I was like, pepperoni. I was like, oh no, don't tell me there's not one cheese pizza here. And open the next one pepperoni. The next one pepperoni.

[Trisha Paytas]

So much like you couldn't even pick it off. Like, you know, if someone orders. Oh, I'll pick up.

[Oscar]

This was like just pepperoni lovers. Cuz it's also, you know, the thick pepperoni.

[Moses]

Oh my God.

[Oscar]

Like smaller. You didn't even eat it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You couldn't even eat it.

[Oscar]

I had something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you eat?

[Oscar]

A little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

We couldn't, like the kids couldn't eat it. We had to put a tombstone in. We're like, we'll put a frozen pizza in.

[Oscar]

But I did find a Domino's that I really like. Oh, that was crazy. Like in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank God we can order Domino's again. Cuz he was like. Not that he didn't like Domino's, but I love them.

[Oscar]

They have a deep dish one which is kind of basically regular. It just doesn't have that sandy pan

[Trisha Paytas]

pizza without the garlic sauce is what it's called.

[Oscar]

And the crust in the back is so crispy anyway. It's amazing.

[Moses]

And how did we pan over the hand tossed? I had both last week with the 9.99. No matter all the toppings.

[Trisha Paytas]

The best deal ever.

[Moses]

I really haven't said. You sold me on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

And yeah, we got one pan and one hand toss. And I had a little bit of both. I will say. And I like both.

[Trisha Paytas]

They are. They're very different. One's a little doughier and spongier. I just love the hand toss. I love the hand toss with extra garlic sauce. And as much at the sandy bottom. I like it the sandier the better. Oh my God. Just. And then you can get extra garlic sauce and dribble it over like it's so good. Although I will say the other day I did get a pan pizza without the marinara extra cheese. And I did the garlic parmesan, and it was so freaking good.

[Moses]

That's basically just like, cheesy bread. No, but kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, extra cheese. I influenced myself. I went to Domino's like, three times in the past week. Like, not getting paid. Like, I was like, damn, that's good.

[Moses]

Good. Just get a pizza.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm a Normie, and I'm proud of it. Give me that shirt. I don't know why it's a bad thing. Normie is wonderful. Boring Normie is what I am, and I love it. I was a boring Normie this weekend, and I love it. Watching Bridgerton and eating dominoes and just doing normal things. Gosh, you know, it's like, don't fly too close to the sun.

[Moses]

You know, Marry that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Normie life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Best way to be honest. You like Jim Carrey and just getting crucified for just having aging. Gaining a little weight in the cheeks. Okay, so sorry. I had a little dominoes, you know, it's, like, wild. Wow. I hope you had a good weekend. We didn't discuss your weekend, but I hope it was good. Discuss on Patreon, I suppose.

[Moses]

Well, my week. Yeah, the Actor Awards. That was my week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you were working. Working hard. All. All weekend long. You guys, we love you. Here's the best of luck to you for this month. I think it's going to be everyone's month watching if you made it this far. May the pot of gold find you at every rainbow. And we'll talk soon. Wear green or get pinched. See you next time. Go to patreon.com just trish for extended podcast episodes. Bye.