Trish Going to the MET GALA + the Try Guys KNEW About Ned Fulmer’s Affair?

Summary

Just Trish – March 5, 2026: Main Episode Summary

Episode Overview

In this episode of "Just Trish," Trisha Paytas and co-host Oscar Gracey deliver their hilariously unfiltered takes on the latest internet drama and celebrity gossip. Blending chaotic energy, deep dives into social media phenomena, and personal anecdotes, the duo breaks down hot topics like Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco’s viral moment, TikTok breakups, influencer tours, food trends, AI’s role in true crime, and the ever-present shadow of canceled internet stars. The episode’s candid tone, packed with comedic asides, meme-ready lines, and the occasional touch of sincerity, makes it another entertaining ride for fans of online drama and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Selena Gomez & Benny Blanco’s “Dirty Feet Debacle”

• Recap: The group revisit the internet’s fascination with Benny Blanco’s unkempt feet—sparked when Selena Gomez kissed his toe on camera. This viral act is seen as a romantic gesture but also a “down bad” moment, leading to debates about relationship boundaries and public image.
• Notable Quote:
  • Oscar: “Selena Gomez heard us and said, like, I’m gonna issue a statement. And then she went on Benny Blanco’s podcast and kissed his dirty toe. And she really sent us a message...” (15:25)
• Insight: They juxtapose supporting a partner against oversharing, with Trisha empathizing, “If someone’s making fun of Moses [her husband] for something… I would do whatever, too, just to be like, that’s my man.” (16:26)

2. Internet Relationship Drama & TikTok Breakups

• Breakup & Divorce: Trisha reacts to the viral divorce of TikTok couple Lilith and “Love Buns,” expressing heartbreak and reflecting on how social media can hide real relationship issues.
• Transparency & Oversharing: The group debate when it’s right or wrong for creators to share private reasons for breakups with millions, with Trisha noting she admires openness but recognizes not everyone owes the public details. (29:01–29:58)

3. Vlogging, Influencer Tours, and Content Creation

• Oscar’s Vlogging Journey: Oscar shares excitement for upcoming vlogs, receiving encouragement from Trisha to pursue opportunities both behind and in front of the camera.
• Influencer Tours: They poke fun at influencers like Harry Jowsey who announce tours despite questionable on-stage skills.
  • Trisha: “It is crazy how anyone can do a tour... you just gotta go on stage. But I love that there’s so many fanbases out there too…” (43:35–44:02)

4. Pop Culture & Celebrity News

• Hailey Bieber’s Pregnancy & Media Appearances: Discussion of Hailey Bieber’s recent podcast interviews, the risks she faced during pregnancy, and the social stigma about her relationship with Justin Bieber.
• Kylie Jenner’s Mystique: Oscar names Kylie Jenner his dream interviewee, citing her enigmatic presence. (83:51)
• Bridgerton and Euphoria Hype: Anticipation for new TV seasons, speculation about casting, and Trisha’s aspirations for future musical and acting projects.

5. Internet Mysteries & True Crime Deep Dive

• AI & True Crime: A fascinating exploration of how AI and forensic genetics now aid in solving cold cases and missing person investigations.
  • Oscar: “Any little, tiny little thing of trace DNA... they can build a whole DNA sample from it and then they, using genetic DNA, can see, match it to like, the family tree…” (97:00)
• Nancy Guthrie Case: Ongoing investment and emotional reactions to the unsolved case, reflecting the parasocial ties creators and audiences have with headline stories.

6. Influencer Scandals: Try Guys & Ned Fulmer

• Keith’s Defense of Ned Fulmer: A recently resurfaced video shows Try Guy Ned Fulmer dancing closely with a producer pre-scandal; Keith attempts to downplay it, but the group finds his defense suspicious.
• Armchair Analysis: Trisha questions why Keith would go so far to defend Ned if he was truly innocent, positing that often “protesting too much” is a red flag.
  • Trisha: “When something’s not true... it’s easier to just not defend yourself. If you’re trying to clear your conscience, feels weird.” (140:55–141:31)

7. Food, Fast Casual, and Brand Gimmicks

• Taste Tests & Price Debates: The group discusses the new McDonald’s Archburger, the state of fast-food dollar menus, and nostalgia for cheaper menu pricing.
• Kim Kardashian’s ‘Update’ Energy Drink: Reaction to Kim’s venture into wellness drinks; skepticism about the product’s claims.
• Homemade Food Delivery: Interest in how California allows anyone to set up “ghost kitchens” and deliver home-cooked food (107:05).

8. Personal Growth & Self-reinvention

• Organization & Decluttering: Trisha describes organizing her home, celebrating small victories like a clean garage (“No clutter. Not one thing. A mess upstairs. Like everything is so organized… It feels good.” 11:53).
• Health and Wellness: Talks of wellness vlogs, going on hikes (with plenty of side conversations about safety and getting lost), and the emotional side of maintaining good habits—“You gotta get that vlog.” (6:45)

9. AI, Content, & the Pace of Technology

• AI in Media & True Crime: Candid skepticism alongside praise for how AI powers everything from TikTok’s “fruit soap operas” to forensic evidence in crime cases.
• The overwhelming speed and unpredictability of digital trends: Trisha and Oscar joke about how fast content gets pushed and how difficult it is to keep up—a theme mirrored throughout the episode in their own struggles with platform algorithms and recommended content.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On relationship boundary lines:
  “Would you have done that sober? ...Like, if Moses was tooting it up… that's where I draw the line for sure. But a dirty foot—you’re just grounded, you’re just in the earth.” —Trisha (16:36–17:08)

• On influencer oversaturation:
  “It is crazy how anyone can do a tour... the most random TikTokers will be like, 'I'm going on tour.' ...But people show up, you know, and I like that. I think that's cool.” —Trisha (43:35–44:02)

• On influencer scandals:
  “When something's not true... as hard as it is, because it's annoying to have lies out there, it's just easier to just not defend yourself... but if you're trying to clear your conscience feels weird.” —Trisha, questioning Keith’s Try Guys statement (141:31)

• On AI fruit drama on TikTok:
  “It’s like a saga, it’s like a soap opera... two strawberries, the boss is keeping her late and they’re obviously having an affair... She stole another homeless fruit’s baby...” —Trisha (92:00)

• On childhood fame and problematic age gaps:
  “Especially, I mean, with Kiki she talked about how, since being a child star, you’re the breadwinner of the family. So you think you’re like an adult even though you are a teenager.” —Oscar (120:11)

• On AI and privacy:
  “He logs his food with chat GPT. He takes a picture and then it tells him how many calories” —Trisha (94:23)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 15:25 | Selena Gomez kisses Benny Blanco’s toe—Oscar’s reaction | | 29:01 | TikTok divorce: Lilith and Love Buns | | 43:35 | Influencer tours & the culture of “anyone can do a tour” | | 97:00 | AI & true crime: DNA and technology in crime-solving | | 140:29 | Try Guys scandal: Keith’s statement and the group’s skepticism | | 92:00 | TikTok’s AI fruit soap operas—a new content rabbit hole | | 107:05 | Homemade food delivery & “ghost kitchens” in California | | 120:11 | Child star relationships and age gap discourse (Demi Lovato/Keke Palmer) | | 141:31 | Analysis of Keith’s defensive statement (Try Guys & Ned Fulmer drama) |

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Additional Highlights

• Bridgerton and Euphoria speculation: Trisha shares aspirations for red carpet appearances and possible roles.
• Podcast recommendations: Oscar suggests “Upstairs Neighbors” as a standout girl duo show (59:55–60:32).
• Body positivity and health: The group continually references the ongoing GLP1 (Ozempic) trend and the enduring “inner fatty” in everyone. (111:13)
• Fashion tangents: Extended discussion on favorite places to shop and fashion faux-pas.

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Tone, Style, and Format

The conversation is very stream-of-consciousness, jumping between granular pop culture analysis, personal anecdotes, internet lore, and outright comedy. The tone remains casual, irreverent, and playfully self-aware throughout—with frequent self-roasts and tangents about organizing closets, fast food, and accidentally manifesting one’s husband with a cardboard cutout.

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For New Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

This is a quintessential "Just Trish" episode—a dense, high-energy blend of hot takes, pop culture references, niche internet drama, and the sort of freewheeling banter that keeps dedicated followers riveted. If you want to understand why the podcast has such a devoted audience, listen for the raw honesty, meme-level self-awareness, and the feeling that you’re eavesdropping on a best-friend group chat about everything that actually matters in today’s celebrity-driven, chronically online landscape.

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Closing Vibe

The show ends on a familiar bittersweet note: Trisha reflecting on the emotional high of her podcast days, her love-hate relationship with internet drama, and excitement for upcoming projects and adventures—a blend of gratitude, self-deprecation, and a longing for connection that perfectly sums up her enduring appeal.

“We have had so many ups and downs... Feels like a roller coaster sometimes when we're done with the episode. But we give it our all.” —Trisha (147:46)

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

And breathe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order.

[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

Lucky to us you kept it in the Patreon, I think. I don't know. Did Jimmy keep in the Patreon?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, it was. No. It's so interesting. And I'm like, I don't know why. Like, I guess we're like, you're the closest person to me, so I just get excited for you. Like, I don't have, like, close people to me. So when something exciting happens, it is

[Moses Hacmon]

like a big life moment. And you are my guru, which is crazy. The concept of Trisha Paytas being your, like, asset.

[Darian]

What do you mean by Lisa Reina

[Trisha Paytas]

Listen, that is my Lisa Rinna today. Yes. But I am also the guru today.

[Darian]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is this? Alicia from.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's giving to Lisa from America's Next Top Model. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's also giving advisor. Listen to me.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Weirdly. Weirdly, yes. The older you get in life. Even though I'm only like five years older than you. Five, Four, I think.

[Moses Hacmon]

Four, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Four and a half.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You learn a lot in four and a half years. It really is crazy how much you learn along the way. Like, I always think like I'm not smart when it comes to like technical things in life, but I kind of am now that I've been doing administrative work again.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

This week too. Last year was all my work. Yesterday was all administered work. I'm like, I feel like I'm a cpa, a business accountant, a manager, like everything in one. I was like, wow, I'm really, I'm really putting in the work. I'm getting all the papers around. It's. I feel very like birth certificates. I was wearing birth certificates yesterday. I was, you know, talking to all these people. I was doing the most passports, passport photos, paperwork, wiring. I'm always just like tiling. We ordered tiles and I know like the square foot of tiles. We need it when it's coming in. I'm like, wow. I feel really.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Anyone who questions, has Trisha Paytas really changed? Let me tell you. She. I come in and she's giving me sound business advice. Honey. She's telling me like, let me review the split to make sure you're not getting ripped off. I'm like, work. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Go to another person. This person. Check this out.

[Moses Hacmon]

You'll get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is going to happen. It'll happen there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Giving momager tease. Come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm happy to be here. And I'm here for you always. Trish, the group. I do feel like I'm pretty good on some.

[Moses Hacmon]

You are good. You know, y' all are with it.

[Darian]

Everyone is an actor slash real estate agent.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Work.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. That is true. Everyone is a real estate agent. Everyone knows, like, oh, I'm doing this. And also real estate agent. Yeah. Love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't have the time, but work. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But work. So I hope you guys are having great luck and may prosperity go to you all on this very exciting St. Patrick's Day month. I love it. I can't wait. Before we get more into details of the happenings today, Thursday, March 5, from 9:00am Eastern Time to midnight Pacific standard time. Double the votes all day for the iHeartRadio awards. Okay, double the votes. United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia. Double the votes. I really need to drive this home. Okay, we are two weeks, three weeks out. I gotta win, you guys. I think there's no other option. That's my luck that I'm hoping because everyone else in that category all has amazing talents. Well, they'll be nominated for so many awards after they could go on to win Grammys and Tony's. This is my. This is my only shot. So I really need this fan favorite award, knowing that everyone else will go on to prosper in bigger categories. Since this is their Broadway debut, they'll go on to many more. So I need it. I want it, and I'm putting it out there to the universe. But there is. That UK show is sold out. See you guys in the uk. And then there's still some tickets left for Netflix as a joke and my Palm Springs show. Did you watch your vlog yesterday?

[Darian]

Oh, no, the comments.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was going through it.

[Darian]

I read the comments.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know y'. All. I know it's because I had the whole thing edited, but I forgot to film an intro, and I have the intro in my head, and I have to serve this intro, honey, because, like, it's in my head. It. The theme is, you want to be a flop. And then I'm gonna do a whole, like, montage to America's Next Top Model theme song. And the freaking. On the thumbnail. I see it. I see it so vividly. The text is gonna. Gonna say, america's Next top. America's next flop vlogger.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's a good one.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. So it's like, it's kind of worth. It's kind of worth the.

[Trisha Paytas]

You work all day double jobs today Tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

I literally just had the phone. It's just like, a quick little intro and everything else is edited. I watched it, like, four times with Darian, and he was laughing, though the critics were raving. I actually really love it.

[Darian]

The focus group has.

[Moses Hacmon]

Focus group has spoken. Come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I love that you watch it. I don't even mind watching mine. Once Jimmy sends out me, like, upload

[Moses Hacmon]

T. I, like, hate, like, my own content, but this one, I'm like, hold on. The spirit of Plane Jane. As I said, I have been hyper fixated on her, and I think she possessed me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I was just serving, like, a little comedy, a little satire, a little dark humor. Just, like, fun. Wow. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because you were in girl boss mode yesterday because we were talking about Business ideas. And you were really on it. And I was like, oh, he's really on it. So then I was like, where's the vlog?

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. Well, that's the problem. I was. I was too on everything else. Juggling too many balls.

[Trisha Paytas]

You gotta get that vlog.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. I was like, oh, Made mood boards. I. For some reason, I like, I saw Rob Rouse is now doing campaigns for Mac Cosmetics. And all he was doing was just crazy. Yeah. And he was just shirtless. And they wrote in a lipstick. Mac Cosmetics at Sephora. And he got paid how much money for that? I don't even want to know. It made me a little sick. And I'm like, I know a hot straight guy. So then I went to my trainer. I was like, listen. Then I made a business plan for him. I'm like, I'm going to be your gay social media advisor. Like, we need to step it up. Yes. I showed him Rob Roush. Just Santiago. I was like, listen. I showed him Rob Rocha. Like, this could be you. I'm like, let's get you on love Island. Like, let me, like, let's step it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I really do feel like you should put some eggs in your basket as an influencer, because people, like, love you. And I believe in Santiago, too, and I think you would be a great manager. But this is also kind of your moment. People love you in the comments. More. Like, more. Oscar. Where's Oscar? And it's like, I think, you know. But both do both. But I really think you really need to.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You thought about daily vlogging? Maybe just do that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. Work, work. I. I already know my next vlog, which is exciting. Actually know my next two vlogs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what is it? Two?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You haven't even posted your last one. Okay. But I like it. I like the ideas. What are they?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, my big announcement. This is. This is my big project that I'm announcing. I was invited to Atara Yummy party. Atara, Elise. Yummy party. Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, I'm inviting everyone.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I drive. Just kidding.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's great. Now. No, that is big. But I was. She said it to me, being like, I know you don't come, but I'm inv. Everybody. I was like, okay, but hey, you got one. You better go. Wait, did that. I didn't. The whole.

[Moses Hacmon]

The whole town got there. Okay.

[Darian]

I did not get an invitation.

[Moses Hacmon]

Honestly.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is.

[Moses Hacmon]

No normies are invited.

[Darian]

No normies. And people.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are like, in the gay world, normies is like, the worst thing to be called. I was like, oh my God. Moses was like ahead of it. Cuz I was like, wait. I was really thinking about it after. I was like, this is not a bad thing. But okay, you're right. The gays clocked at the. Okay, so just you and me. Honestly, it is. It is kind of a vibe. Are you going to go?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you?

[Moses Hacmon]

I said I feel like a make a wish kid. Toriumi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did she text you or DM you?

[Moses Hacmon]

She DM'd it to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, and I will say she. I mean I'm not inviting everybody, but that is pretty exciting that you were on that invite.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When is it? Well, like is soon. Is it a weekend or weekday?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's a weekday.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's probably public, I guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or no, I don't think it's public.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I don't know the dj. So I'm thinking like no, no, no. It's probably right. No, no.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it's far enough where I can mentally prepare, you know, so it's not like tomorrow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

So yeah, yeah, I would love to go too.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is so sweet. I always see her like pop up on my for you. And she was talk Jake Webber sister and she's like, I never think. I don't think I'll ever get married. I don't think I'll ever love someone the same. And I was like, ah, I love her. So then I went to go text her and I realized that I had gotten an invite as well.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, okay, our party debut. Have we gone to a part?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I feel like that one. You're still like young. You're in their age range. No, I do fear 38 is a little too old at this point.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. Maybe I'll go. Honestly, no, it was cool. Cause I actually never had been. I don't think I've even invited. Maybe I have, but I don't think either. So that may be our first invite together. Congratulations. That is big. That is a good vlog. So that's the next vlog and then the next vlog.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, the next one is a secret.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do I know it?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but the title is going to be I don't want to. I don't even want to hint at it because it is kind of. I already have again the concept.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Darian]

Don't give it away.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's gonna be a gag. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Okay. We love a surprise. We're all. Oscar crave is waiting because he even was like, oh, the blogs Are coming

[Moses Hacmon]

back and still are. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come on. Anticipation.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very Tana Mongeau of you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, of course. I mean my cancer sister. So that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that aligns. Sheila, I have the Halloween vlog ready to go up. I'm like, that's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

So me. I live.

[Trisha Paytas]

You really should post your last year. Like my 2025 January vlog. It's kind of fun. I know what you mean.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I vlogged last year, January and May, and that was it. So two. Two out of people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Want to see it? The lost files.

[Moses Hacmon]

We'll see. We'll see this.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you feeling good? Are you feeling lucky?

[Moses Hacmon]

Am I feeling good? Am I feeling lucky? I'm not feeling unlucky. Huh? Not feeling unlucky.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should be feeling lucky. I feel. I feel lucky for you. I feel like the luck is.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love that. I'm feeling bedraggled. I think a little tired, but not in like a terrible way. Not like in a depressed way. Just like, go, go, go, go, go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Darian]

It's a draining process, what you're going through. Yes, it is draining.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Darian]

But they were worried. Is there?

[Moses Hacmon]

Huh? And trying to grow a boss as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's hard.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's a lot going on. A lot of things.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's overwhelming.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Girl. Blessings. Yes. Yesterday we had a full organized day. Shout out. Amani. Am I saying Anyway, Amani. Organizer. A E Organizer. You know, it's been since before Aquaman was born that she was here. She had never met Aquaman.

[Darian]

Yeah, I did wonder about that. I just didn't have time to because I was. I was in that mode. I was about to show her a picture and then you were moving.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had a storage. We got a storage unit. So finally everything from our garage went to our storage units yesterday. And then everything that's been cluttered. You are upstairs. No clutter. Not one thing. A mess upstairs. Like everything is so organized in the garage here. We got rid of a lot of stuff. No clutter. We gotta. This will be next. Like the podcast. Glam room. Everything down here, but no clutter. It feels good. When you went upstairs, what did you feel? We didn't even talk. Cuz yesterday you were with the movers from like 8am to like 5pm Then I went to go get my nails done. Like we hadn't seen that when we like, we finally got dinner. We're both just like so tired. What do you think? When you went upstairs, I was like,

[Darian]

there's so much space here. So let's bring out the Cars that was with the kids were just like, oh, because there was so much space.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I wanted to move the cars too, but I was like, maybe next time. But, yeah, there was a lot of space for them to ride around. It's so much space.

[Darian]

Yeah, of course. A big house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Pro tip. Organize, Organize. Declutter. It felt to me. I felt like, oh, my God, I could breathe this morning. I was like, oh, my God. Everything felt so amazing. I felt so amazing. I felt so lucky. So shout out to our organizers coming back Friday to keep organizing. I can't wait to get this room done and my glam room done. It's gonna be so, so cute. So we're lucky in that we're getting stuff done. Are you good? Yes. J, you. I know you were a little tired.

[Darian]

I thought it was just moving day. Like, moving day is a serious day because it was like a full truck of boxes. I mean, this is all the Just Trish merch. So it's like all the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Go to just trish.com to buy some of this merch. I keep forgetting to promote it. It's been in our garage, but now it is in a warehouse.

[Darian]

So, yeah. So just more comfortable to work on it. Not from our house. So it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

And now there's more space. The garage was beautiful. I walked through yesterday to open it up. It was so beautiful. So much space.

[Darian]

Yeah. And we're building pink cabinets for the garage. Is it pink?

[Trisha Paytas]

She had asked me, and when he asked me if it was still pink, I'm like, I don't know. Ask Moses. I have no idea. But I feel. Oh, I feel great. Go follow her on Instagram. She's been amazing and decluttering our lives. And Malibu was there with little Pen helping declutter everything. She was, like, taking notes too. She had her work gloves on. She got a cute video of it. I want to get a cute video. Because she had her pink gloves on. Our organizer, because she's, like, moving boxes and stuff, and Malibu brings out the exact same pink gloves that fit her, and she starts putting them on. I don't even know where they came from.

[Darian]

I got it for her for gardening. And then so that's kind of work gloves, but it's like, her size, and I was shocked they had something so small.

[Trisha Paytas]

She put them on to start helping. She was with me all day yesterday, just, like, organizing in the closets. I was like, go, Go play in the closet.

[Darian]

She naturally always has a notepad and a pen. Can I take your Order.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, I'm taking the queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, for real. She has a pen and paper. It follows everywhere, wherever we're going, taking notes. Like, she really is so organized. She was trying to organize yesterday, and even yesterday when I was in my closet. I'll just sit here on the stairs, like, right next to it.

[Darian]

If it was up to her, she would be here right now.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she does love it.

[Darian]

Like, all morning, she's like, I want to work with you. I want to work with you. I want to work with you. And I was like, but one time she did sit here, but somebody just started, like, dozing off because it was, like, her nap time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, was it the vet?

[Darian]

Yeah, because it was her nap time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Darian]

So I was like, yeah, you can be here. But it is actually boring to just sit and watch it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Especially on a hot Topic. But it would be. But maybe she would love it. Who knows? Maybe one day she can be a guest. She has a great talker.

[Darian]

She'll talk on Stack.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even yesterday when you were gone, I was like, I had to get some work done. I had, like, an hour's worth of work. I'm like, okay, you can come to Mommy's office. We got it. You have to. You just gotta be quiet. No, never. There's no. There's a million questions. I was like, okay. So we ended up going to the TV room. I put the TV on so I could work a little bit. But it was good. It was a good day. We just had a lot of administrative stuff. But our house is so organized upstairs, and it feels so good. What else?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I was pretty gagged because last episode, we talked about the Benny Blanco dirty feet debacle, and Selena Gomez heard us and said, like, I'm gonna issue a statement. And then she went on Benny Blanco's podcast and kissed his dirty toe. And she really sent us a message. She said, you guys, I'm standing 10 toes down for his dirty toes. So much so that I'm gonna give it a little kiss right in front of the camera.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it.

[Moses Hacmon]

She was trying to send us a message.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was great. I think that's what she needed to do.

[Darian]

Is she the new pope?

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Darian]

That's what. Like, he would go to, like, prisoners and kneel down and kiss their feet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, my God. Okay. That's very deep Catholic lore that I never knew about.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, I support women's rights and women's wrongs and listen, my God, that's my sister through and through. And sometimes you don't Agree with your family's choices.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't agree? I would have. If someone's making fun of Moses anything, I would do the same thing. Lick it, kiss it, frame it, take pictures of it all day long. Like, I would do whatever, too, just to be like, that's my man.

[Moses Hacmon]

But would you have done that on sober when you were, like, on. You would do it right now? I see this in 20. Like, 21 for you, but I couldn't imagine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely. I think it was like Corinna's foot. I think in a David Dobrik vlog, he's like, lick her dirty toes. I was like, okay, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, that's the era I imagine you doing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if it's Moses and people are making fun of him for something that's kind of natural, what do you think about it?

[Moses Hacmon]

But even just last episode, you said if Moses was tooting it up in front of the. In front of.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where I draw the line for sure. But a dirty fee. You're just grounded. You're just in the earth.

[Darian]

Case of far. It's abstract.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's gross. Too far. That's too far.

[Darian]

I said you can't do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Bars are actually gross. But she didn't do that. If she did that too far. I think a kissing of a foot is being like, this is a beautiful. I accept you as you are tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I guess there was other parts of the episode where she was, like, very clear that, like, if he did do her. No pun intended, did her dirty, that she would be like, no, this is a rap. Which is good, because she was like, oh, if all of a sudden you wrote this move, like, he has no interest in acting, and he came up with, like, the hypothetical of, like, oh, if I wanted to act and I had to have a sex scene with Margot Robbie, like, would you be okay with it? And she made a joke. She's like, you can sign the divorce papers right here. Because she was like, because he has no interest in acting. He's like, voice that. He has no interest in acting. She's like, well, if all of a sudden you're writing a script and you're writing a sex scene with you and Margot Robbie, like, that's kind of weird to me.

[Darian]

My point exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what? I'm so confront. Exactly. If you wrote a script and you had. But, like, you changed your mind, right? You're like, now I want to act. Now I want to play Moses and the Ten Commandments, and I want Margot Robbie to be my zipporah I'd be like, okay, work. That probably would make a lot of money. Like, I don't actually. I'm confused. You're on.

[Darian]

If I went to that extent to create a whole project just so I can be with her, that's. That's what she's saying. She's like, no. Had she married him, knowing he's an actor and that's what he does, sure. That's a whole different story. Because you. You had that. You wanted to write something with the Weeknd and, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you would be against it if

[Darian]

that was the purpose of the project.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, maybe not the purpose, but, like, if you have a vision. Margot Robbie's so big right now at the box office, and you're like, if I get the Ten Commandments movie made and Margot Robbie is gonna be attached, it'll get sold. It'll be big. I'd be like, yeah, of course it would. Like, right? I feel like that's such a given. I feel like that's not even especially famous to me. I'm like, yeah, that would make sense.

[Darian]

It could be a reality in mind. It's just like a fantasy. I don't see any of that happening. But in his world, it could happen. He could be casted. He's a good character. He would be a great actor in general. I think he's a good character.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, he could have been the one married to Margot Robbie in that, actually.

[Moses Hacmon]

That would have been a good one. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I feel like that would have been more, like, balanced because other guy was kind of hot too, and you're kind of like, well, no, maybe her dad. That's crazy.

[Darian]

Hi.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's not that old.

[Darian]

No, that's age. I can age him, but he has that kind of raspiness and craz.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I support it. I would support it. That's so weird. I think if that were to happen, she would say yes, because that's, like,

[Moses Hacmon]

a big deal, like, joking about it. But I like that she at least is like. You know, I think people were worried that she was, like, too down, bad for him, that she would just be blinded by everything. But I like that she kind of asserted she's. That she is in her right mind and that, like, if he actually did something wrong to her, that she would leave versus just, like, forgiving him for just about anything. You know what I mean? Granted, Benny also, like, loves her so much and does well, so I don't know, think he would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. To me, it wouldn't even be an issue. Truly. Like if you had a love scene, a whole sex scene, if you did a whole heated rivalry with someone, I would be like, I probably would be okay because you, you are so good to us. I'd be like, even this morning I was looking how like wonderful you are. Like playing with the kids at like 6:30am it's like so early and I'm just like, they're laughing, I'm like, oh, and you cook dinner and you're. You know what I mean? It's just like, oh, I trust you. Like, you're gonna do all that for Margot Robbie.

[Darian]

Like, I don't know if it's about maybe trust. It's more about like you just. It lives there in your head. Like you kind of those moments and you think about it for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't see it. I really wouldn't. I really wouldn't.

[Darian]

But I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she really puts me in a pickle. That's Selena Marie. I don't know, I'm kind of just like along for the ride at this point. Am I, as a Selenator, a little embarrassed at point this? The gifts and stills of her kissing Benny Blanco's toe. Yes, I am, I am. Because also the camera angle is like low. So you really just see Benny's dirty foot and him kissing her big, his big hairy toe. And it is something fierce like.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's a toe. It's not a butthole. It's not butthole with like poo wrapped around it. You know what I mean? Like, it's just a toe with some dirt.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's just so dirty. That's the problem.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, so interesting.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yeah. So it, it's, it hurts to see her so down bad like that. But I, I still, you know, I support her. I support her. I want more, but, you know, I want more for her, but, you know, go off queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was kind of here for it.

[Moses Hacmon]

You turned around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was here for it. I think they're just so cute. I just like when people are so like in love and so cute together.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it is.

[Darian]

And bold. I mean, it's a bold move to do it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Thank you.

[Darian]

Like, you stepped out of the normal a lister celebrity behavior. She did the unexpected. I did not expect that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, right. And she did say they talked a lot on this freaking podcast. She's really doing the most of her man too, by the way. She launched like, her a whole thing with Instagram to do like close friends, but like, everyone who follows her is like on her close friends list. So now she's posting just to like, her close friends.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, how do you know? How do you know everybody's.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was A whole press release, like, yesterday to promote her on the Friends Keep Secret podcast with Benny Blanca. I'm like, damn, that's a. Is she an investor or something? I don't know, but probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of like Ariel Ned Fumler. He said he was. He was an investor in rock bottom.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, right. He said he was. She was financially tied to it somehow.

[Darian]

Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Work. And she. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Darian]

So he wasn't just a guest. Is this his new podcast, Benny?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, this is Benny. Selena's a guest on his podcast on the second episode. Yes.

[Darian]

This is trouble.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, are you a Benny hater?

[Darian]

No, no, I'm just worried for him. He's gonna sit there, book.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Darian]

That's trouble. That's trouble.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone who's an open book, like you said, especially at that level when you're married to, like, a Selena Gomez. I do love, like, I would love if, like, Justin Bieber had a podcast and just, like, went off on, like, everything. He thought.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, he was live streaming and doing that on Twitter recently.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. A while ago.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I don't know if he's still doing it, but he was going for a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he should do it in, like, podcast format, where it's like, you're sitting down, you're understanding what you're about to do. It's daytime, presumably.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. But of course, it could end up in a situation where, like, you're a little unaware, like a Dax Shepard. And then people realize, oh, you're kind of annoying.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I feel like Justin and Benny are young enough to be aware. I think Dax is just, like, old. Like, he's like, boomer mentality, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know if episode one, he's, like, the person dead or alive I want to have dinner with is Hitler and be like, Hitler.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, you're right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Would you still do that? Like, I'm a little worried if that's episode one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

And you're opening your opening scene of episode one on your pilot episode is you saying, oh, can I fart in this microphone? Will it pick it up?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. You're probably okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Moses brings up a good point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trying to be. I was being positive this episode. Yes. Lucky charms everywhere for everyone. That is crazy. But I would like to go on this podcast. I'm with you, Benny. I like him. I feel like he's just, like, keeps going. The Internet is mean to him. I mean, granted, that's all, like, gross. Like, Hitler and farting are probably two of the red flags. But that's true.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were mean to him even when he was quiet. So I guess that's a good point. That is. That's fair.

[Trisha Paytas]

And people are always mean about his look.

[Darian]

Looks.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like, Jesus, like, I thought we all like, oh, no more shaming people how they look. But like Benny Blanco's like free, free reign.

[Moses Hacmon]

I. But I think. Do you think with him though, like, he does set himself up a little bit where again, he just doesn't put his best foot forward. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

I. He kind of goes out of his way to be unhandsome. Yeah, yeah. Dirty fee for exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. But I mean, to each their own.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it again, like, who is he gonna compete with? You know, like adjusting people, you know what I mean? I'm not trying to compare them because they dated scene. I'm just saying, like, that's what thinking of all the times Justin Bieber. But like, you know, you can't really

[Moses Hacmon]

like be a Jacob Elordi or anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That's how I feel. It's like, okay, I'm not gonna be an Alex Earl, so let me be a Lisa Rinna. You know what I mean? Like, and I love Lisa Rinna. She's gorgeous. But Trish has Lisa Rinna's a little crazy. It's like, yes, last. Okay, Monday, I was trying to do Kris Jenner and everyone's like, you look like Kim of Queens. And I was like, oh, that's who I like. Have you ever seen that show?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kim of Queens.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know Jimmy in the editing room is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my gosh. Yeah, she was like a beauty pageant coordinator in the south and she had her own show. And that's. That's exactly who I look like. And that's not who I was channeling. So it's like, you know, you go for one thing and another. That's how I feel day I'm like, oh, I'm channeling Lisa Rinna. But maybe giving Rainey Rodriguez, who I love. She's a dream guest of mine too. I would salsa fast as can. I love her. My favorite. I still want her to play me in something. Like, she's just such a queen or I'd want to work with her or her be my daughter or something. Be amazing. One of my favorite TikTok couples. It's sad news. Moses. Like, like my favorite tick tock couple in the whole world is getting divorced. And I was like, I'm like, Moses found out before me. And I'm like, why'd you tell me. He's like, well, it's sad. It's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did you have to sit down and take a minute?

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you all the comments? All the comments said that, like, this is when I did have to sit down. 7 million views. Her announcement, like, her name is Lilith. Lillian. Lilith. Lilith. Sky, I think Lily. Yes. Oh, my God. Her and Love Buns got together the same time me and Moses got together.

[Darian]

Everyone knows him as Love Buns.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's Love Buns. But everyone's like, don't worry, you're our Love Buns. Because she know more Love Buns. And like, no, you're our Love Buns. And they were like such a cute couple. They got married in quarantine. Like, she, you know, she talks about mental health and how hard it was to keep a job, but then she got a job and he was working at Del Taco and she had babies that she had given up for adoption when she was younger. And then they were able to have two babies together. It was like such a beautiful thing. I was so happy. And that is one where I had to sit down because I still. I'm still over it. I'm still so shook. Like, that one makes me believe not in true love anymore. I was just like, ah. Because they were just.

[Darian]

They have little children too.

[Moses Hacmon]

So little.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like Malibu and Elvis's age. How did you hear about it? You saw it before me. You just saw her Tick Tock.

[Darian]

I saw it on Reddit.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy that it made it all the way there.

[Darian]

Well, there's a subreddit about Tick Tock, so Tick Tockers. So. But people in the comments kind of like, we saw it coming. So I guess there was a little bit of information about that one I

[Trisha Paytas]

could not see coming.

[Darian]

No, not in that. Not in the grand scheme of things. Ain't coming. But more lately, they followed. Oh, they were kind of separated a bit or like taking time apart.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that was so shocking.

[Darian]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Infidelity and dv. Shocking. He was the sweetest. Like, sweet. I mean, I guess it just goes to. You don't know what anything is on social media, but like, I mean, he was like. She called him Love Buns and he was sweet and he like catered her. He'd always be cooking her food. Like, I mean, just he was a little younger. Not that that matters, but he's like a little younger. He like moved back to California. Now she's with the two kids. Like, I'm so shook. I'm so shook, and I'm so sad. And I guess that just goes to show, like, you don't know what's happening on social media. But, like, he was, like. He seemed like the sweetest person in the world. Like, I loved him so much. I'm just so shook. And I do applaud her. Not that anyone owes anyone anything in a divorce, but she gave the reasons. You know what I mean? People are so nosy. And, like, again. And hers are obviously very serious. And, like, again, no one. Nobody usually does in a divorce. Usually, like, just keep everything private. But in a way, I kind of respect that she put it out there because now people aren't digging or speculating or whatever. I don't know. I've always loved her. She's very open.

[Darian]

I feel bad somebody does something so awful, and especially when it's a young man with two babies. Yeah, she should.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's like, the kids is that. Look, I'm bored. I respect it. But it's also, like, then it's out there.

[Darian]

But what he did, he did to them, too. Not just to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm. I'm. I'm heartbroken. That'd be like, if Selena or Benny, you know, who's been together a long time. Justin and Haley. They've been good, like, 10 years. A long time. I thought they had just recently gone together. I didn't know. It's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have they not.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, people like to argue and really calculate because there's. In the beginning, Justin was kind of going back and forth a little bit, but in the grand scheme of things, is that confirmed? This came up on New Year's of this year because Haley, like, posted, like, our 10th new year or whatever, and then people were, like, went back and got the receipts and like, well, this March of this year, he was with Selena, so, like, that doesn't count. Or they were just on and off a little bit towards the beginning, but, you know, that's still a really long time nonetheless.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a long time.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was she on recently? She was on a podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she did a podcast with. With, I believe, her obgyn about, like, when, like, like, women's health. And she was talking about, like, her birth experience, which is cool. I think she's making really cool, like, podcast choices. Like, the very specific. You know, she does the. She did, like, Owen and Jake, so a little something for the gays. And then, you know, the really, like, the mature motherhood, financial, like, those kind of podcasts as well, which I think is Is interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I liked it. Yeah. She said it was not planned her. It was a surprise. Her baby Jack.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it was like, a health risk as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't see that part.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I think she had, like, a cyst or something in her septum. Oh. So. Oh, wow. Her doctors would, like, advise her before she got pregnant, like, to not get pregnant because it could be a risk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yeah. So she was at risk with her pregnancy, which is scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she talk about having. And she won't have any more then I assume if it was risky.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I don't think she said if she was gonna have more.

[Trisha Paytas]

The full thing. I didn't know what I just saw clips of. I would listen to the full thing of that. I love when people talk about their motherhood, especially private people like that. You're always like, I want to know the tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. She was at higher risk of a miscarriage.

[Darian]

Oh,

[Trisha Paytas]

where's your septum? Your stomach?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's like your. Like, your behind your belly button get,

[Trisha Paytas]

like, sepsis or something, too. Like, you probably could be in danger. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm assuming she had a. Oh. So, like, I said that completely wrong. I apologize. A septum in her uterus.

[Trisha Paytas]

A septum in her uterus. What's a septum? Like. I know. Like a septum piercing.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know, exactly. Oh. A structural anomaly where a wall of tissue divides the cavity either partially or completely. Interesting things, like, I never would have even thought about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, and you always think, too, like, young girls, you think they have, like. No, like, young, seemingly healthy girls to have any. That's so interesting. She talked about that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's because she had a healthy pregnancy, like, carried it to term. That's good. Wow. Scary, huh?

[Moses Hacmon]

So basically, like, if you have, like, the shape of a uterus, there's this wall in there that kind of, like, makes it essentially smaller. Like, there's less room in there because all of a sudden there's this wall that's, like, obstructing it, making, like, the size of it. Yeah. There's, like, less room for the baby to develop. Yeah. Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's actually really scary.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I'm glad she's talking about this stuff. It's great. And it explains a lot to you why she's so, like. Like, now that she's a mom, because she talked about another podcast. Now she's like, as, now that I'm a mom, like, if I see stuff that, like, I. I want to stand up for myself more because, like, I want Jackson to See his mom standing up for himself. And now this is kind of making sense. Like, she went to high risk pregnancy and then she was able to deliver a healthy baby and now she wants to, like, really set a good example. She's also probably on top of becoming a mom, also, like, a high risk pregnancy. I imagine you must be extra, extra,

[Trisha Paytas]

like, for sure, like, thankful and survival.

[Darian]

Good for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Come on, Haley.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not even more d gaff. Like when. Yeah, like you said, you go through high risk pregnancy, you have your baby. Like, I'm gonna give up.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anything else?

[Moses Hacmon]

Honestly, I'm glad she talked about this because it make. It makes me understand her and respect her a lot more. You know, I've always struggled with Ms. Haley.

[Trisha Paytas]

You've gone back up more.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hailey Bieber.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think I've always been on the train, right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes, yes, yes. I've wavered here and there, but I see it, I see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like, Yeah, I always just think, like, when you're, like, married, have a baby, that's it. There's no more argument. There's no more back and forth. Like, he likes her, otherwise they wouldn't be together. Like, I don't know, the whole, like, trying to convince your husband, like, they don't like each other is so weird to me. I mean, it happened early on in our relationship just, oh, he hates her. He's like, it's just such a weird thing. Granted, sometimes people can be right. I've had relationships too, where I'm like, oh, no, this is great. Then you look back at, oh, my God, he did hate me. But when they're like, when he got the tattoo of her was presumably her, not necessarily her, right? Yes. You know, everyone's like, oh, he hates her so much. And he got on his back, so you have to see it. I was like, what?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what people said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that one. And I was like, they were.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. Like, okay, you got a tattoo of your wife and they're like, it's on his back, so you don't see it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy. Guys. Who the hell is y'?

[Trisha Paytas]

All?

[Moses Hacmon]

Please be so serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so that's why I'm like, okay,

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like you are gonna do too much. There are moments where I'm like, justin, what is going on? Like, when Haley was on Vogue and then he, like, was kind of shading his, like, Instagram about it, I was like, okay. There's times where I'm like, like, let's be a Little sweeter.

[Trisha Paytas]

But.

[Moses Hacmon]

But the tattoo is big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And if you have one partner who's like. What is the nice word for like, cuckoo? Like, what is, like, the PC Quirky? Eccentric.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good one out there. You know, sometimes they can't be tamed. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's like I just go on a Twitter spree, and Mose won't know until the next day. You know? I mean, and it's just like, that's. That's the partnership we have. He knows Haley's gonna always keep it under wraps. I know Mose will always keep it under wraps. Like, I'm never worried about what he's gonna post.

[Moses Hacmon]

Post tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe Moses worries about what I'm gonna post sometimes, and maybe she worries about what just is gonna post. But at the end of the day, you can't tame a wild horse. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

You can't tame it. Wildheart. So true.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I. I'm with them. I like them. I'm very excited. I did get invited to Coachella with a brand, but I did have to say, no,

[Moses Hacmon]

not Sugar Bear Hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not Sugar Bear Hair. But maybe I, I. I wanted to go, but the getting into it just sounds difficult. If I could be, like, helicoptered in and just, like, flown down, it'd be great. But getting there.

[Darian]

Seems we did fly there.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Darian]

You can't. I mean, you could take a part

[Trisha Paytas]

of a jet there, but you just have to go walk into the festival.

[Darian]

There's different entrances for everything. Like, the artists are not standing in line with.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do they get there?

[Darian]

Just the back entrances. Oh, like your. Your car drives you in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sounds complicated. I don't know. Can imagine just sitting there, like, listening to music. I would want to see Justin, but I don't think you just go for one person can. You have to watch the whole thing.

[Darian]

Some people do.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pass this year, but I would go.

[Moses Hacmon]

You were so adamant about going to Coachella, and then the opportunity comes. You're like, actually, ooh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe takes you backseats. I'll take it back. I know if there's one year, it would be because I do love Sabrina and Carol G. Too. Like, I really love them. And obviously Justin.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then if Manal's back, you think, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You risking the cookies.

[Moses Hacmon]

You ask her.

[Trisha Paytas]

You DM her before we.

[Moses Hacmon]

We plan anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would actually maybe go because that's, like, everyone. That's pretty monumental, and it may be the last true. But at least again, I really got.

[Moses Hacmon]

Damn. I really am nervous for cats out, you guys. I am. There was a whole thing, a whole situation. I'm hoping it was a glitch again. Kind of reminds me me of Haley and Justin because there was, like, a tiktoker last year that's like, Haley or Justin unfollowed Haley or Haley and followed Justin. I forget which one. And Haley commented, it's just a glitch, you loser. Which is fierce. But her word choices are always that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Glitch in.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, because yesterday someone found that Megan had unfollowed Daniela, but then, like, 15 minutes later, like, followed her again. So I think it's a glitch, but people were nervous.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, but that's very specific to glitch and unfollow the one person you're beefing with. Right. That's so specific.

[Darian]

It's those hackers someone hacked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Why would that be, like, zero to everything? Like, it's just so weird. I don't know if I buy that. But then again, I don't know why you would just unfollow and unfollow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Especially right now when you're, like, in a whole PR storm. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess you think nobody will notice or something. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

People clock and unfollow quickly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so fast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you do definitely make a statement. Because if I don't like someone, I mute them. But if you unfollow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or blocking them. So that way it looks like you unfollowed each other.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, word.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because that happened once. I blocked someone. Like, oh, they both unfollow each other. And I was like. Just for clarification, I blocked them.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but it is just Instagram. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

We'll see. I'm a little nervous again. This is all before the debut album.

[Trisha Paytas]

When does that drop, Mama?

[Moses Hacmon]

Your guess is good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really? Yeah. I thought there was, like, a date.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, they're supposed to release something in the spring. But is that still happening? I don't know. I'm very confused and concerned and worried,

[Trisha Paytas]

but their tickets on sale. They have a tour or.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, no, they just wrapped their tour in December.

[Trisha Paytas]

No more dates.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, they finished their first tour in December. And they were supposed to just be preparing for the next era, but who the hell knows what is going on right now?

[Trisha Paytas]

A couple more weeks to Coachella. Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God, you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't it crazy? Like, a month away?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wild girl.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm Scared, but we'll see. We'll see. Positive. Lucky dust out there. Lucky dust come back stronger than ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come on, period.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yep, yep, up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have faith.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is also very ironic news that came out post our last episode. Cuz it is like a. A crossroads of two of the hot topics. Harry, Josy revealed he got Botox in his penis.

[Trisha Paytas]

Harry Josie revealed.

[Darian]

Oh, is he in the Olympics?

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean? Do we talk about this? What's the Botans do?

[Moses Hacmon]

He said that yeah, he got Botox because it includes this injection that he got in his penis includes Botox stem cells and calcium and it's. It makes it smooth and that he got a whole vial of it and it's also supposed to help him improve his performance in the bedroom. He said apparently it makes things a little easier to get the job done. And he also talked about how you can put the Botox in your balls to smooth out the wrinkles because it relaxes the muscle. I really do think it says you're. It relaxes the muscle and you're getting stem cells injected into it and again the calcium. And for the ladies out there, he said that women can get it injected in their quote unquote, hoo ha. So

[Trisha Paytas]

what to do for the hoo ha? Smooths it out. We don't need stimulation, we don't need energy, performance. We lay there, there, we open up the penis, maybe more so. Okay, I support do whatever you want with your body. But he seems a little young to have any issue.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I have

[Darian]

questions because last time you clocked it, it sounds like an ad. Oh, for Botox, for a service, basically. Because why would he. All those deeds, too many details, too much details. You can do it too. And this is the brand deal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he didn't say what he got right? Because like maybe he's like saying, oh, I got this done. And then someone will be like, oh, is our branded this? What's the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because did he say Botox is a brand?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it is

[Darian]

just finding more places to put it in your body, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Kind of gimmicky.

[Darian]

Because I don't think he would admit that he had issues before.

[Trisha Paytas]

He seems kind of like the definition of TMI to me.

[Darian]

Yeah, but also like, you know, men would never say, oh, now I can get the job job done. You could not before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but I'm honest sometimes I'm honest to a fault, you know, be like, oh, sometimes I have a little fish odor in my vagina. You know, sometimes it just happens.

[Darian]

He seems to Be more of the, I don't know, trying to get dates and girls. Not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he gets the girls.

[Darian]

I think so. Why go there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but maybe it's opposite. He's trying to deter people because maybe he has too many women coming after him.

[Darian]

I.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's married Harry? Where is that show? We haven't even seen a teaser. We've seen the Vile Files teaser, but not Mary. Harry. Where's that?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's a good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's been talked about way longer than the Vile one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Over a year, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, for sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

Dare I say Harry? Josie, come take a seat in that pink chair. I have questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did ask for Netflix as a joke. I was like, maybe Harry. But he is. He has his own shows or something going on. I don't know. He's like going on a tour, has live shows happening at the same time. I was. I was down to have Harry Jowsey.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's taking a lot me to not throw a little shade at the concept of Harry Jowsey going on and doing what exactly? God only knows.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's everybody right now, including Harry in particular.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm like, and do what? Like, what exactly is happening there? At least Jeff Whittake can cut hair when he's going on tour. You know what I mean? What is. I have no idea. At least he's got a town. Comments, you know, at least he's. He can. He can give a little trim.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no, anyone can do a tour. Which I again, I think is a good thing. I say that nicely. It is crazy how anyone can do a tour. It's like, I think you just gotta, like, go on stage. But I love that there's so many fan base out there too, because the most random tick tockers will be like, I'm going on tour. And you're just like, what the hell are you gonna do? But people show up, you know, and I. I like that. I think that's cool. I. I agree. Maybe he goes on speed dating rounds or something like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Speed dating rounds is great.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he has finished filming and I think I do know the outcome of the show, so it's very interesting that they haven't like, shown it. So he can, like, live his life as the show has already been filmed. I don't know. Oh, T. I can't imagine them canning anything because if the Vile File show's still happening, I don't think they're gonna.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, yeah, I see. I see. Yeah, they. The last thing I see is the casting announcement was in July. Of 2025.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. And the show has been filmed and done. It's in the can. Like, there's done, like. I don't understand.

[Moses Hacmon]

Expected in 2026. That's the last update. Interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we're already a quarter of the

[Moses Hacmon]

way through and not even a damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

A Taylor teaser trailer.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I think it's a trailer or nothing. Well, good luck.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to see that. You know, they cut Nick Vile out of the whole teaser of the age gap relationship. What? They did? He wasn't in one scene.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

They show Natalie for. I think she said a line at the end. Isn't that crazy? I wonder. I wonder whose idea that was. Like, your show gets picked up and you're not even in the.

[Darian]

Also, they're a couple, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's the whole point. Yeah. What was it? He. I guess he's really nasty to the Mormon wives. Someone was saying. Because I said I wanted to host the reunion for Mormon Wise. I guess he used to host the reunion.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

And I guess not. Nice. And I guess that's why they came for Whitney Levitt, because she didn't want to be on. She turned down their podcast. I think Woody just recently talked about this. She declined their podcast. So they were like. They've always been, like, really nasty about her as far as, like, you know, being a mom and like, working on Broadway.

[Darian]

I mean, they retaliate against just random people on an airplane. So you can imagine how personally they take this.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw somewhere that Alex Cooper is the reason they have a podcast. I guess they were on Call her Daddy or something. And like, that was how they got the podcast or something. I don't know.

[Darian]

I don't really see, that's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Now let me go buy 10 copies of that Sophia Franklin book because. What do you mean? Alex Cooper is a reason they have been.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what Russia was saying. I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like a plague. Like a biblical plague. Alex Cooper is the one. One that's responsible for sending the locusts over here. Like, that's crazy to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. I know when I did see them on there, I was kind of like, that is damn.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, Daddy Issues. Available at all booksellers. November. Like, let's wake it up. Sophia Franklin, I'm gonna get you to the New York Times bestsellers. Because Alex Cooper, you did me dirty with that one. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, let's hope. Yeah, let's hope that people are just saying that because that was the first platform they got post Bachelor.

[Moses Hacmon]

But girl, that choice was made. A choice was made.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I think they just, you know, they

[Moses Hacmon]

still go daddy hypothesis about like her just getting the questions and not knowing what the hell's going on. She interviewed Sarah J. Moss who's like an author of this Romantasy series that's like really, really, really popular. And she like they posted like a little teaser and it's her asking the most like in the weeds, like Reddit forum like specific questions. Which is fierce. But I know her. I mean she probably has read the books, but I know her is not going to be asking the follow ups to whatever tea she's getting. Like literally the trailer is just like a million like very, very specific questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And she's like reading the cards so intently to get every like crazy name and everything. Like exact. And I know her, but fierce that they prepped her enough to know all this stuff because that is commendable.

[Trisha Paytas]

A good point. I'm trying to think of a podcast. I guess she's not really a podcast. I guess she is interview but like, like podcasts in general. Do people read all cards? I'm trying to think like when there's an interview like a Z. I think

[Moses Hacmon]

it is pretty normal. Like Z way has like her questions. It is like you look, you're supposed to like look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or like balance listening but also like reading. So you know what? Okay.

[Darian]

So it is a lot of times they cut it out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Darian]

When they kind of pick at their phone or something, they cut it out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting.

[Moses Hacmon]

She just fear so because literally the card was like right here. And I'm like, she is like mixing for her lifestyle. She's like, I'm gonna get every single one of these words.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's the flex when you have no cards. Because I always write notes but I never, I try not to ever.

[Darian]

True.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me just have a conversation. Just have them in your head or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. But also like so her. Let me play devil's advocate to myself. I suppose it is also nice because sometimes there are like interviewers who like get prep very specific stuff and it's like in their unfamiliar with it so they won't even go there. So the fact that she is able to go there even if maybe she's not the most familiar, which maybe she is, but maybe she's. I have a feeling she's not. The fact that she's able to go there is commendable because sometimes they'd be like, I'm not gonna ask these nerdy questions and keep it moving. But me technificant what is your experience with being a straight guy and you just not wanting to ask that question?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, pass. I think all the hills ones. I'm like, you were so specific. I'm like, I don't know any of these people. Keep going. Next.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. So Alex Cooper, let me give you your tens for that one. For just, you know, giving it your best shot.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it is so scary to ask questions you know nothing about.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Because it is hard to like. I mean, I guess that's why Alex Cooper asks. Keeps it moving, you know, she's like, got it. Huh? Next.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's very true. Did you see a Tiffany Puller on Z Way Love? So funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my gosh. She was okay. This really is so funny to me because, like, the concept she talked about. Tiffany talked about, like, what pronouns she uses. And it was like, you can call me she, her, he, him, they, them, but I will always be that. And everyone's like, yes, she ate with that. And it is so funny because I know that's what you were trying to give back in the day, but you just came off like. Your presentation was so uneloquent. But you were. You and Tiffany had the same sentiment, though. It's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

First half, she's like feminine, masculine.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That. I don't know if I was thinking I was. That I was more just like. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

But not that you think. Back then, I think the haters were like, Trisha, Peter's that, but not like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm non binary. Yeah. She stood by her non binary. I really like that. Yes, yes. Because, yeah, I like that she kind of, like, held to it. Because even though Tiffany is so funny, I love when she gets like. She's like, is serious too. And I feel like with the non binary, she is kind of serious and I kind of. She says it funny, of course. Cute and camp, but I kind of feel like she feels that, you know what I mean? Especially her there being, you know, they're very like,

[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Just who they are.

[Moses Hacmon]

And also another one too. Again, that's why it gave me very Trishian vibes, because she's very femme presenting. Like on tv, it's very much like, you know, cleavage and teeny waist and like tight dresses and glam and like hair laid, glance, like makeup is always perfect. So the fact that she's very femme presenting but identifies as non binary and also fine with any pronoun. Like, again, very trishy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel like her character, not just New York, but even like Tiffany Pollard, like, I think she just like, knows the character and that's the look of the character, which, like, same. You know, I think there's like a character and that's the look of the character. And then, yeah, like on your days off, you are just simply a human existing. And I still love it. I know I saw someone talk about, oh, Robbie Hoffman. I love Robbie Hoffman. Stand up and saying like, how like they them, like went away and they're like, no, no, I'm never letting you. Like, I had to relearn your pronouns because they're like, yeah, I had a friend who identified as they them and they said, oh, yeah, I'm not doing that anymore. And Robbie's like, oh, no, no, no. Yes, you are. Like, I had to rel. It is funny because, like, you know, a lot of people, you know, are off the nine biting your train, which is fine. But I do love the people that still hold by it because I do think it's a very real thing. But. But I get the sentiment. I think in Scary Movie people were mad too. They did a they them joke and people get. I think it's a little different. Obviously, Robbie Hoffman doing a they them joke versus the Wayans brothers. Yeah, the sensitivity gets lost a little Bit. But, you know, I think you can retract it, though. I think you can retract being non binary.

[Moses Hacmon]

Although, yeah, I had to fact check myself that Marlon Wayans has a transgender child and is very much like an advocate for them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, so, yeah, that's great.

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought I heard something about that back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then free reign on the scary movie jokes. Oh, interesting. I had no idea. I look like he's an advocate too. I like when people, like, huh?

[Moses Hacmon]

And he's. Marlon talked about how, like, their transgender journey was, quote, beautiful and magical journey towards acceptance. That is so sweet. Oh, I love that Marlon said Kai is the same child they were before. They just got a beard now. Okay. Same baby. That is so sweet. I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that, too. Take notes, Elon. Musk tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because Vivian is, like. I love that Vivian is, like, America's next top Model.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, genuinely so funny, charismatic.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like, personality. She's fierce. She's on Runway. She's got it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, how would you not be, like, so proud of her? Like, it's so crazy, huh? Huh? Parents in general. I just understand how you're like, well, I can't, like, love you anymore. Like, what do you mean, love that you're gonna see the new scary movie. Is it Owl? I don't even know.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, the trailer. The trailer just came out in front of Scream. It comes out in June, and they moved it up a week early because the reaction has been so fierce. Everyone's so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it? Your kind of humor.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think I've ever seen scary, but I have obviously seen the clip of, like, obviously, like, Anna Ferris and Regina hall and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love them. They eat. The jokes always get lost on me. I think there really are easy jokes for anyone to get, but I always get a little lost. I'm always kind of like, I don't really understand.

[Moses Hacmon]

I never really got into any of those, like, parody movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Even, like, the Hunger. Like, the Hunger Games had a parody movie. Like the Vampire Suck. The Twilight one, I never got into those look horrible. Yeah, they do.

[Trisha Paytas]

But there was, like, good ones. Like, not another teen movie. Like, there have been good ones. I think that one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me just finding out not another teen movie was a satire. That's crazy, right? I think you're probably right. Now that I'm thinking of the title being not another teen movie, I definitely couldn't suit Chris Evans, Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I think that's a parody.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that the one where he has the whipped cream On, Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It parodied, like, Varsity Blue. She's all that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that was my. Call me by her name. Like, that was, like, such a gay awakening. Chris Evans with, like, the Witch, Whipped cream and the cherry on his, like, penis and hole. Like, that was fear. That was everything to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. That rocked my world.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was a good movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I loved.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not Another Tea Movie. I think Paul Dano's in it. Like, I was. It was really good.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is fierce. That is really fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes there's good parody ones, but the scary movies are. Are not. Are really for me. But I also think, like, I don't like horror movies, so maybe I'm not getting the references or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Because they are very much all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, even the weapons, like, them, like, running, like, weapons and stuff. Like, I'm like. I don't. I don't really know. Did. Did the actress who won for weapons, did she run to the stage like that or was that someone just exaggerated afterwards?

[Moses Hacmon]

She ran with, like, her arms behind her back, like, up to do her acceptance.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that so much.

[Moses Hacmon]

Kai Snazz in Scary Movie six, actually, which is funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. That's pretty big. I think that movie is going to do really, really well. So to get in, that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. He got. He really is everywhere and everything. I know Kim Kardashian and Scary Movie and have you tried Kim Kardashian's new energy drink update?

[Moses Hacmon]

She has an energy drink?

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't know about this?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we have a blue one. I can go get you the blue one real quick. This is energy drink. Zero calories, zero sugar, zero percent juice. What's in it? Zero. Everything. Zero protein, zero juice, zero. Like, what's it made out of?

[Darian]

Well, she's just selling you air, water, Tasty.

[Moses Hacmon]

Interesting. Interesting. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

It says your body naturally breaks down caffeine into three molecules. I don't know. This is the future of energy.

[Darian]

Sounds like a placebo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Clean energy without side effects. I feel better on it. What do you think?

[Moses Hacmon]

I hope you're being a placebo allegation

[Darian]

because to give you energy and to give you calm at the same time sounds like. Like, am I intrigued?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's. I don't. It doesn't advertise calmness and fairness. It just says that in about four hours it'll be out of your system. So, like, it won't be wired.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Darian]

That's true about any water?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. It'll be out of your system?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it says about four hours. So you can get your beauty sleep.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's.

[Darian]

I need to have one every four hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, T. Well, it's called Update. I love it. I don't know. I think it's great. Anything Kardashian, you know, I'm buying. I'm still in the loop.

[Darian]

Huh. Interesting name. Like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, because you wouldn't. You wouldn't get Kim, like, if you just were walking down the aisle and saw it, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Grocery store.

[Trisha Paytas]

But why would they not have a K name?

[Moses Hacmon]

I kind of live that. It's like, I like the packaging at least, and the cleaning is pretty good. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was excited about it, I guess. It's only sold at Walmart, which doesn't seem on brand for Kim, but I love it work.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's giving Charlie and Dixie at the. At the cash register at the Walmart with the chips.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

People were so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I probably was, too. I was adding to that, but, like, who cares? Yeah. Always apologize Emilios. For the rest of my life. I'm so sorry.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was Charlie not nominated for ir Broadway opening? Whatever debut? Did she debut before?

[Darian]

It wasn't this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, was it before? Yes. That sounds right. Maybe 20, 24. She might have been nominated. That would be crazy. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Rachel Zegler. That makes sense.

[Darian]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

That must have been a tight. Thank God. Thank God you skipped that year.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I mean, this category. When they told me about it, it really did seem like they made it up for me. But it's been around and it's been fierce. The competition has been. Next year's gonna be even crazier. Meg Thee stallion's going into Moulin Rouge. Whitney and Dylan and Bob the Drag Queen. You see Monet exchange. Talk about she's on lock called Sharistas.

[Moses Hacmon]

What did she say?

[Trisha Paytas]

She was saying they were like, oh, have you ever been on Broadway? And she's like, no, honey. She's like, I'm an opera singer. And we were taught to, like, look down on theater kids.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, she said it in, like, a cute way, but. But it was so interesting. I was like, I love her. I don't know much about her like you do, but every time I see clips for her, I'm like, I do.

[Moses Hacmon]

I live for Bob and Monet. I live for a lot of the rude girls. I really do. But Bob. Bob Monet's podcast is, like, genuinely so funny. I love it. It's kind of giving us where, like, the first they try to get through the intro, and it's like 30 minutes of them going back and Forth. And, like, I love it. It's so I need to listen.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I don't listen to their podcast, but I love both of them individually usually, so they're funny. I need to listen to a pot. I need to listen to podcasts in general. Like, I don't feel like I miss. I feel like. I don't know. I feel like there's so many that I need to listen to. Let me know. Out there for girly podcasts. Like, we talked about it once. But, like, you know, not skinny, not fat. And the toast. And like, all these, like, girl. There's like a bunch of duos of girls doing podcasts.

[Moses Hacmon]

I like Upstairs Neighbors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there. Are they big?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where are they at?

[Moses Hacmon]

Funny, they have a channel and they signed to. Oh, my God, why am I forgetting it? Formerly Cody Ko's company, now that he's out. Oh, but it was recent. They signed like, a couple. A month. A couple months ago. Like two or three months ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tiny Meatball.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. Tiny Meat Gang. Yeah. Kind of better, but yeah. And they're just so funny. And they're the ones that like little cosplay sometimes. Like, if they do heated rivalry. They're in hockey outfits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Bridgerton.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're in Bridgerton outfits. Like, they're. And they're so cute. I love live for them. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so that's the one you recommend.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I love them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Upstairs Girls.

[Moses Hacmon]

Upstairs Neighbors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Upstairs neighbors. Okay. Because there's times around, like, long drives. And I deleted my Spotify because Spotify, I kept being like, new views. And I was like, you, I don't want to listen to this anymore. That's all that would pop up for me. So I literally deleted Spotify. But don't delete Spotify. Listen to just Trish on there because it's great. I'm going to get it back just so I can listen to my own podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Spotify does. It's giving Alex Warren Ordinary, where it was, like, playing all the time, but they do that with somebody suits. Yeah. Wait, what's Paola?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what everyone, like, claims every time. Like, something is pushed, like, in the playlist or whatever. Like, you can be listening to one thing, then it'll push, like, something completely random. That's just, like, popular.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was Alex Warren. Because last summer, if we listen to Coco Melon. If we listen to Ordinary. Yeah. Ordinary all the time. And it'd be like, the first. I'm like, no. What? Like, no, fine. It's a great song.

[Moses Hacmon]

But.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they did that with Stephanie Sue's podcast, which, again, I like Stephanie Sue's voice, but it's a true Crime. So I'm always, like, a little scared. But, like, anytime I would listen to something, it would just pop up to Stephanie sue every time, next time. And it was so interesting. She has a great voice. But I was just like, I don't want to watch True Crime or anyone listen to True Crime. I put, like, not interested, and it kept giving it to me.

[Moses Hacmon]

How weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, she's great.

[Moses Hacmon]

We need some paola. Let's put.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, put just Trish after everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Come on. Who wants to give us some paola?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Where did you hear this term? Or you made it up?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's kind of like an industry term. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They pay, you mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, like a label or something will pay just to get, like, a lot of, like, radio play or, like, placement and streaming music playlists and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, allegedly. All this is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just speculative.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, Allegedly. Speculatively.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think Wheels on the Bus, Alex Warren Ordinary comes first. Yeah. You're taking me down, like, all the time. I just remember it so vividly.

[Moses Hacmon]

They'd be living for that song. Song.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I like it, too. And I like his new one, too. Yes. Huh? Huh. It's like, yeah, the Freight Train work okay. It's like a fever. Did you see It's Paris Hilton's video?

[Moses Hacmon]

I saw the trailer with Paris Hilton and I was like, mama, kudos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Freight Train to the chest. Huh? I like it. It's good. I'm there for it. But. But it's kind of. It's just a lot. You know what I mean? It's funny how they push one song for fully. I guess when you have a big song, you just push that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Like, you're. You can't really push another one when, like, still number one or, you know, top five.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it's like, I guess I have to write this out until it kind of slips a bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like. Bridgerton had a Charlie XCX song for this last one during high, high synth. How do you say her name, that little girl?

[Moses Hacmon]

Hyacinth. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you watch?

[Moses Hacmon]

I edited all the interviews, so I know everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hyacinth.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hyacinth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hyacinth.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Well, it's also a flower. She's named after a flower I never knew. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Did you know that? Did you know Hyacinth was a flower? Wow. And you're a flower garden expert over there. Wow. Interesting. Well, yeah. There's a little dance they do where she has the recital. It's kind of like the kids's, like, balls, I guess you could say. And Elvis does the hyacinth. The. She does a little thing, and it's in my head. What is the song? The Charli XCX1. It's not. It's not the Apple song. I know that. It's like a really. But it's like. It's so good. It's so catchy. And I think, oh, 360. Love that song. Yeah, I love the British version of it. That's how I envisioned my London show to be, with my orchestra. I want them to be, like, freaky. I wonder if it'll sound like that or it'll just sound like my song. Alex Warden had an orchestra at the Brit Awards. He had something about Britain that you need to have, like, an orchestra.

[Moses Hacmon]

It does give that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even when, like, I looked up the first performances to a Lipa, and she had, like, an orchestra at the Royal Albert hall, and I was like, okay, I need that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I need that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. That's what I'm gonna do. So we love.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did you see that? They want to bring all the former leads back into Bridgerton at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I heard that. They were not going to bring. They were gonna not recast. Phoebe, the youngest, Right? Well, that part. And the oldest. Daphne and the Duke. They were not. Everyone's, like, one of them to recast. And the showrunner said that they would not recast because they thought it would be disrespectful. And then I saw. Yeah, the youngest people want to recast because if they're gonna do, like, sex scenes, like, well, they were like, young kids. What. What was yours? They're gonna bring everyone back.

[Moses Hacmon]

They have plans or hopes, I should say aspirations to bring back all of the formally former leads at some point in this series.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, because they. They flopped. They flopped on this one. Bridget. And I am so mad, as is the whole fan base. Like, people were saying, like, okay, there was. I guess, spoiler alert, there was a death this season, which is a very big one. And they are to believe that Daphne and the Duke, like, wouldn't return for their sister Francesca after she lost her husband. Like, everyone else came to the funeral. Anthony and Kate didn't come to the funeral. Even though they were in this season. They didn't come to the funeral. They sent a note and flowers, but Anthony shows up when, like, he finds out Benedict is, like, has feelings for the housekeeper. And everyone's like, that's so unbelievable. Why would he come back for that and not come back for a funeral? Because the Bridgerton family is so tight. The Bridgerton family is so tight that Benedict was, like, not gonna marry Sophia because he was like, well, I don't know if I want to. Like, they were there for the wedding, but not the funeral.

[Darian]

So it doesn't make sense that where were they in that time? Because it was right in between.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was in between. And. But also Daphne and the Duke not returning. They're like, this is the time that they should and would return, I guess. Weddings. They would return for a wedding, but a death they would return for. And I feel like they dropped the ball and. And they think the showrunner is like, well, wouldn't make sense for them to come back and do one line. Yes, it would. I feel like we all. Oh, my God. If. Oh, my God. If. If the Duke and Daphne. It's Phoebe and Reg.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

If they came back, I think that'd be bigger than John the Bailey coming back.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's why I think they're holding out, because the showrunner did an interview just Brownell told people, like, at some point later down the line that during Hyacinth and Gregory. So I think they're holding the. The cards for, like, series Finale, I fear, because it's giving, like, like eight years. Like eight seasons. More than eight years, but eight seasons. Like our big. Our big goodbye to the family. Like, let's bring everyone back. That's a stunt. Like, that is the biggest stunt.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would be gaggy. But can we get that before?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, that's so far away.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so far away. Think about people who won't live that long, you know? Like, I always think about that. Like, what do you mean? We gotta wait that long? People are dying, you know, we want to see it next season.

[Moses Hacmon]

The gag is, I do think about. About that a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

All the time, Right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Not for, like, for. In my head. I always thought about it with, like, movies, like, with X Men or like, the Marvel movies and stuff, because they're the. They're like, X Men will be back in, like, you know, 2020 or 2030, whatever. And I'm like, girl. So I have to get all the way. What if.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know?

[Moses Hacmon]

And that's, like, the one thing I want to see. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're doing a movie now called. I think it's called Merrily Reroll. Merrily Rollong. Is that the name? I don't know. It's like a movie that Like Ben Platt is in and anyways, it's like a movie that they're shooting over the course of like 30 years. So they're shooting it now. It's like a play, but they're shooting the movie version and they've been shooting a little bit each year and it's like, what if they die? What if we die? Like, you know what I mean? People are dying and like, I feel like people like may not care in 30 years. Like, let's just speed it along.

[Moses Hacmon]

There was a movie. Oh my God, what is it called? It's gonna Kill Me. I remember a couple years ago it was a big deal at like the Oscars and stuff.

[Darian]

I remember.

[Moses Hacmon]

What was it called? It was like. Was it just like growing up movie? But it was also shot.

[Darian]

Yeah, cuz they were like from being kids to adults.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was called Boyhood. It came out in 2014 and it was filmed over 11 years, 2002 to 2013. And it was so it filmed like 12 years in the life of a family. So it had the boy growing up throughout that whole thing and it swept. Everyone was in love. Like the academy loved the concept of that, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, okay, I guess that's what they're going for. But like, let's keep in mind the people who are dying always, you know, podcast for you the next day.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who has time to wait a week?

[Moses Hacmon]

Exactly. You never know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never know. And I just wish that they would

[Moses Hacmon]

take that into consideration because I was watching a YouTuber the other day and I, he. I started binging his videos and all of a sudden I ran out and he didn't have that many and he posts like twice a year. Not Technificent, who also does that. But I'm like, well, what the hell am I gonna do now? And then I was like, oh, the gag is I am that YouTuber for tens of people out there. Like the last vlog. I was like, oh, I. I know the feeling now, but it is true. I was like, well, Leafy Street, I'm out of videos. What the hell am I gonna do?

[Trisha Paytas]

Leafy Street.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, good name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Any relation to Leafy is here?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, he just, he builds little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why are they both leafy? That's too close. You know what I mean?

[Darian]

You know what?

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought the same thing at first, but he seems very scared. He built builds fish tanks and like reptile terrariums and stuff. So it's very wholesome content.

[Darian]

But there's only so many who can build

[Moses Hacmon]

again. It's giving boyhood where he films, like the development of the ecosystem over a year. But I'm like, listen, dude, we gotta. We gotta speed it up a little bit. I. I need things to watch with my meals.

[Trisha Paytas]

So who else are you gonna watch? I guess the girls upstairs.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, upstairs neighbors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes, yes. You know what? Another thing about it, I could probably make a movie. Jimmy, get your editing hat on. I think we can make a movie of all the vlogs that I've done over the past 20 years. You could see me grow up, giving birth, having a wedding.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know what? Gag it. You really could.

[Trisha Paytas]

We just gotta make a storyline out of it. Okay, Jimmy, let me know if you're up to it. Or another editor out there who can do movies.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, damn, that is. Give me a score of work, but that would be fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have a lot of a team.

[Moses Hacmon]

You might have to have like a team to tackle each, like, stage. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Cuz I have a lot of private videos. I probably have like 4,000 private videos.

[Darian]

There's a lot of edits on Tik Tok that I see that are like the. You know, like a trailer to the movie, basically.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Darian]

Because they pick little moments.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. They're so good at that editing. I'm always watching. I repost all that. I'm like, wow, I'm so inspirational. Just like me crying and then me, like, happy. And I was like, wow, this is a movie 20 years in the making, huh?

[Darian]

20 years in the making.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Darian]

I have been actually longer because you have also home videos from your dad and stuff like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. I have some from a baby. My dad was the original vlogger because I have some from when I was like 0 to 4. I have my karate videos. Put some karate in there. Wow. I could be boyhood. Girlhood might be trademarked by Dylan Mulvaney. I don't know. But I could ask her. That would be crazy. Okay. That's my new adventure.

[Darian]

Yay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hey, Jimmy, let's get into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Oh, my gosh. In a world of docuseries, let's just.

[Darian]

I think you need Buzz Lurman.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that is true.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are close. Yeah. I am the IMAX version. And he can remaster. He did it from the 70s for Elvis. He can remaster my home videos from like.

[Darian]

It's a bigger project than just. Yeah, it's a big, like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. DM him maybe. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes I do like, laughing emojis and stories. It's kind of Fun. Like, that's so crazy to me. I'm just like, why are you just, like, watching Instagram stories?

[Moses Hacmon]

I had a similar. You're going to hate the. The relationship. Like, how I'm relating. But I had a similar thing where I was watching something and I was like, I hope Ted Nivison sees this. And I was like, I can just text him. And I texted him and I said that. I was like, I really want. I was like, I hope you see this one day. And I realized I can text you whenever I want.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you say that?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I'm gonna say it to Ben. To be honest, yours is actually more, like, obtainable and realistic. Me being like, yeah, Bass could direct my footage of my life story, like, as if he just didn't do Elvis Presley. The biggest one ever, whatever. But, yeah, it is cool. I mean, I think when you see people, like, actually use social media, so many people just, like, don't either. Like, they don't check DMS or anything. So it's cool when people, like, react to a story that's nice. So you send it to him. I like him. Nice. Have you hung out with him since the podcast?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but I should. Especially now that I'm vlogging. I need more bits, so I might have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. Okay. David o' Br, over here. You got the vlog. You're like, we gotta get this.

[Moses Hacmon]

Exactly. Who knows what animal I will surprise Ted Nivison with?

[Trisha Paytas]

But that'd be so funny. You do do that, you know. You know, Dr. Evan and tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I do get kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's fun. So you think you'll go out and vlog and, like, be around people?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, let's not get carried away. I'll vlog. I don't know about going out and all that, but, you know, it does make you want to do some stuff sometimes, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I'm trying to put a health and wellness vlog together. And I told Moses, maybe we should go on a hiking trail. Like, just a different location for it. You know what I mean? Because we walk, but it's the same walking. And there's also my houses. I'm like, maybe we should go in. But then people die on hiking trails. People are always dying on hiking trails. Like, just falling.

[Moses Hacmon]

I won. I have. Well, one time I did get attempted cruise at a hiking trail. I think I've told that story a few times. But the other story is one night or one evening I went on a hike by myself. And this was like 2019, I think. And I thought it. I thought it was taking a shortcut or something. That's where you go wrong. Don't take what you presume to be a shortcut because it ends up being a long cut and then not a killer. But it was, like, around sunset, and I was like, okay, like, it's getting dark. Let me take a shortcut so I can leave before it gets dark. Ended up being a long cut, and then the path got lost, and then I barely had any service left, so I called my mom. Just so you know, I'm long. And then I lost service. I was just saying, no, I'm lost, and then lost service. And then she. I didn't know this until later, but then she called 911 and they were about to send a helicopter to come find me out in the. On this trail. And then final. When I got service again, I got a call. I was getting all these calls from, like, the emergent. The respon. What is it? Emergency responder, whatever. And was like, just so, you know, like, we were. Want to make sure that you're okay before we send the helicopter. I was like, oh, yeah. I just. I just got back, but I was kind of lost. I was like, it. Like, off the trail, I had all these, like, the. You know those little spiky balls that, like, grow on weeds and stuff?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I had all those in my shoes and, like, in my sock because I was so, like, off the trail in the. The wilderness.

[Trisha Paytas]

By yourself?

[Moses Hacmon]

By myself. It was dark. No, it was. It's the Santa Monica Mountain, like, around. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Why did you go by yourself?

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I was in my. My health and fitness era, and I was like, yeah, I'd be hiking all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, like, good rule of thumb for everybody is to hike with somebody because, like, look, I'm not. Definitely not. Victim shaming, unfortunately. This world sucks sometimes. I think you should always go with someone hiking, which is just, like, the sad truth of it. I don't know. It should have to be that way. But.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially even if you don't get injured

[Moses Hacmon]

when it gets later. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Late, injured. Like, it doesn't always have to be the killer. Although the killer does get people, and it's so sad.

[Darian]

And I'm like, there's mountain lions over there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mountains, everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Rattlesnakes, There's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Jeez, Oscar.

[Moses Hacmon]

So be mindful on your health and fitness journey. Although that is a good vlog, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

And not if you die.

[Moses Hacmon]

Let's go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Put the footage up. Darian. No, don't do that by yourself. That's so scary. I'd be the same way, though. Like, if my. My son or daughter called me, I'd instantly call.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Like, what else do you do in that moment?

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially if you lost service? I'd be like, oh, well, like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. But that does happen all the time, though, on that trail, too, so be mindful on your. On your hikes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is this, like, too sad to talk about? Maybe. But, like, is the. Is the Nancy Guthrie thing. He's over.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, it is still going. They're still looking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't understand, because they showed her, like, at a memorial in front of her mom's house. House, crying.

[Moses Hacmon]

Savannah, her sister, and her sister's husband. Yeah. Came to the memorial in front of Nancy's house, and we're kind of crying, I think, because people think that Savannah's gonna leave to go in New York because she's been there for, like, over

[Trisha Paytas]

a month to go back on tv.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not go back to tv, but she has. Her kids are in New York. Like, her whole family's in New York, so just to go back to her family.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the hut is still on.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's been some hiccups in the investigation, but it's still. It's still going. It does take a lot of time, but they did miss a lot of things up as far as, like, the scene and stuff. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you guys still on it? ET on the beach.

[Moses Hacmon]

Can I tell you? It's getting. Because they were like, okay, we can end this group text now until something happens. And I was like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's quiet.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And Darian asked me because he kind of got invested, because I was like, I had to cover this all the time, especially on Saturday. So Darian has also got kind of invested. And I'm always, like, watching, like, the updates from, like, this one journalist shout out Brian Ensign.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was, like, him just having the

[Moses Hacmon]

beats, but, oh, my God. It was, like, always asking. He's like, did they find Nancy? And I was. And one day, I was like, if. If you. You would. I was like, you wouldn't know if they found Nancy, because I would be jumping up. I'd be like, they found Nancy. And I was jumping up there because, like, I'm really rooting for this lady to come.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, maybe think about Elizabeth. Smart, right? She was missing for, like, nine months.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she showed up right in the backyard. And, like, if, like, not to be, like, true crime, because I'm like, what? I'm very bad at Handling these things, obviously. But I'm like. I'm kind of, like, invested because it's just all over everything. But if. If a family member does have or someone they know has her, it's a higher chance that she's, like, alive. And they're just looking for ransom. Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, that's the thing that is so

[Darian]

complicated because they were offered, like, over a million dollars.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Savannah offered, like, over a million dollar reward, but that was, like, a month later. All the ransom notes that came at the beginning were all fake. Yes. So how do they know the abductor has never actually, like, made contact with them? So that's why it's like, oh, it can't just be like, oh, they kidnapped her for money. Because they never made contact with them to get money.

[Darian]

The notes were weird to begin with.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Darian]

And what they were asking. And, like, the crypto, like, one bitcoin to an address, and, you know, they can follow addresses, so I think they checked it out and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, they were scamming.

[Darian]

There's always a crypto scam somewhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say. That's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Where was Logan Paul last month? I don't know. I'm just asking the question. Just jokes. He said he's like, if anyone calls me a scammer, I'm gonna sue him. So I guess I'm.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well, Oscar said it at me. Just kidding. Is that what he said? Oh, my God. Geez, what a threat.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially when people have money.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm always like, oh, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry, girl. We love you.

[Moses Hacmon]

If anyone can take them, though, I think it's Rosanna Pansino. She's still on their neck. So, like, girl go off.

[Trisha Paytas]

I respect people, too, that kind of just keep going for what they believe in. Right. She really with Mr. Beast, too. She's just like, no, this is facts. This is this, like, yeah, I think

[Moses Hacmon]

it's serious to stay on his neck. Yeah. Because that now she's. It's not. It's for the, like, the love of the game. It's for, like, principle. It's for, like, you know, she's following her heart because she's not given. Everyone's kind of moved on, but she's like, no, no, I'm still here.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she said, I'm still talking. Because if I think about her on Twitter or something, and she was saying, like, she doesn't make money. Like, actually, the videos don't make her money. That's her, like, least popular thing on her channel that she's Just literally doing this. Just a passion project. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think that is fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do too. I respect like, I, I look, I think I used to be that person obviously with anger issues too, but I used to love being that person too. Cuz you're like kind of like who was Haley? We were saying like you just don't want people to like, it's hard to let people just talk and say whatever. Although I guess Mr. Beast isn't really coming from Roseanne. I guess she's just going for him.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is annoying, I would imagine if you. Because her POV is that. No, like she's investigated this, right? She like has, she says that she has evidence that he's botting views and buying views and he's not as big as he seems and blah blah. So ethically. And also just like as someone who's like an OG of YouTube saying, someone who's like Clay, you know, he's the number one YouTuber. He's doing this, that and he also like boasts about all his accomplishments non stop. I. That's kind of annoying. I would be annoyed too if I had, if I was her and had evidence that this was not what planning

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

You know he's making it out to be and he's out there in Saudi Arabia and doing this, that and the third. But also getting praised as like a moral guy and stuff. It'd be like actually no, like I would stay on his neck.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's true if you have the passion for it. Yeah, I think sometimes like we talk about this on topics like we'll talk about something. I'm like, I love him so into it during the hot topics and after I just like don't care.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me too. Oh yeah, me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I mean, Nancy Gun three. I've been, like, following, but it's not really, like, a hot topic. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just the news.

[Trisha Paytas]

The world.

[Moses Hacmon]

But, yeah, world news, serious news, that's like a different thing. But as far as, like, influencer stuff, I kind of really don't think about that much.

[Darian]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never.

[Moses Hacmon]

But.

[Trisha Paytas]

But when you. When people are so into proving something or like, they found something, like, oh, I'm for it. That takes a. That's a smart person thing for sure. You're just like, I'm gonna just not rest until it's out there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I wish it could be me. Could not be mean.

[Moses Hacmon]

That could not be mean.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think our podcast could thrive a little more if we were both like, like, investigative journalists. I know you're a journalist or, like, on it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, if we're. If we do something breaking, uncovering the news, you know, uncovering a scam.

[Moses Hacmon]

Remember when we really did. We did a deep.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did we try.

[Moses Hacmon]

What was it our like or exact justice. When we were really going in the weed, we realized, like, this world was not for us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It gets so dark and heavy and then you're just like, oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

You're finding, like, dates and time stamps and this and that. You're trying to, like, put everything together. I was like, it was like, that was bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was around 4th of July, like,

[Moses Hacmon]

summer, when everything's chap.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just so serious about a serious topic. I'm like, but, yeah, that everything, like, going to bed, just consuming that kind of stuff. You're just like. It feels. It feels dark and heavy and you're just like, too old. Yes. I just. If I see a hot topic, I talk about it. Otherwise.

[Moses Hacmon]

And keep it moving.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And whatever's on your notes, I'm like, we'll talk about it. You know what I mean? But.

[Moses Hacmon]

Except for Jojo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. Jojo Band. Well, I guess people tell me sometimes you're right. You're right. And honestly don't care. The least of it. I think I asked about Patreon. I was like, do you care about that Jojobi? And I was like, well, then what are we doing?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't really care about. I do care about, like, I guess Benny Blanco. That one was passionate.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love Benny and Selena and we love our. Our usual suspects. Santana and the upstairs neighbors. We love. But Jojo love and support but don't care. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

I do agree with you on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah. Was there Kylie news? Because that's what the. I love a Kris Jenner Kardashian.

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't really see any Kylie.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were doing something. Was he on the set of one of her things, her beauty shoot or something?

[Moses Hacmon]

He was on a podcast. I forget who it was. Like big athletes, like, I think basketball players, like really famous athletes or something. And then Kylie was backstage with him. I saw that on Tuesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who would you rather interview Kylie Jenner to, Michel? Me?

[Moses Hacmon]

You could ask me. Kylie Jenner or Barack Obama? I would choose Kylie Jenner.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know you were Kylie Stan. Like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have. I. Kylie Jenner is more mysterious to me than like, wow. Yeah. Or like, who. I don't know who a modern day philosopher is, but I would rather choose Kylie Jenner. I have more questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there a modern day philosopher? I don't think so. I think those are people dead and gone. I love Kylie too. I really.

[Moses Hacmon]

I really do.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think about her. I think about her daily. I think when we talk about people who don't care about. I always think about Michaela. I always think about Kylie. And I was thinking about Nancy Gunther's mom. Or is that the.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's mom. Yeah. Savannah. Savannah Guthrie's mom. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think about Nancy Gunthering.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Like people who stick with you. T. Trying to think who I like really will click on like Tennificent Hassan. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

All your girlies.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. A Jenny Xpeng. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there actually are a few for me. Yeah. You know, that's. That's my mother, so don't giggle at Jennings Pen. That's my biological mother. I love a Jennifer X. Penn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her full name. Legal name.

[Moses Hacmon]

McAllister. Yeah. Jennifer Penn McAllister.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love little niche people. Like the Lilia. She's not niche. She's on Reddit, I guess. But I love when there's people that you're just kind of like, oh, you follow them so much and you don't know if everyone knows who they are.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think everyone knows Gen X, Pen. Okay. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I know her.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Is she. I don't know. Maybe she is pretty big on. She could be getting like billions of views and I have no idea.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like every video she posts and it gets like, she posts like three times a week. They all get like 200k. So she's pretty big. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely more than my vlogs. My vlog has 60, 000 views, which honestly is the number one. But I put it as my feature on my. On my blonde Sundial channel. So when you go there just automatically makes you watch that vlog.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's number one, Jimmy. Thank you. I don't even know if he added it. I think he told me he didn't even edit that much or something like that. But I appreciate putting together the pieces.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, there was a lot. Nice. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did it. Okay. I don't know. I didn't watch. Thumbnail is great. I'm so impressed by you and him doing thumbnails. I'm always like, how do they do this? I can't do a thumbnail. If you were to give me a million dollars. I cannot figure out how to do that.

[Moses Hacmon]

For my mood board from my Trisha Merge collection I was going through. And then I did find the one where it was just like your glitchy thumbnail.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one was it?

[Moses Hacmon]

God, I literally have it on my.

[Trisha Paytas]

We better not give it away in case Tic Tac shop drives it. Steal it from us.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true. True. But it was so funny. I was like, wow. I. I don't know how I'm gonna do the capsule collection because there were so many options. I'm like, I don't even know how I go about doing it. But because I have so many, it's

[Trisha Paytas]

like, we'll find the right.

[Moses Hacmon]

We are. I have season. I literally. I could have a season like, you know, Paris Fashion Week for spring, summer. I can have a spring, summer, a winter, a fall, a back to school, a Groundhog Day. Like, I have so many castle collections.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there a Groundhog Day vlog? No way. I was like, I've never been into. What's his name? Felix. A P. Felix B. What is his name?

[Moses Hacmon]

Dexitany Phil or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dexitani Phil. Dexitani Phil. Never been into it. But I do have a lead on maybe an invite to the Met Gala.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very, very exciting. Jimmy, bleep out the keywords.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they were saying they put me up for consideration.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God, that is fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Cause it's so close. I thought, oh, they're like, already done. The list is done or whatever. But I can't guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

Possibly I would be Gagatranda.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would be gagged. I like, it's a big reach. But the fact that it was even brought up, I was kind of like, I giggled a little bit. Cuz when I said, I'll watch what happens live, it really just came to me because of, like, New York. I never in a million years think of me at the Met Gala because I'm not fashion, but I am giving couture, honey. Today I am giving.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who's Anna Wintour?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, that's just a gag, you know, Anna, you're my queen.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's your mother.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's my mother. I do that with my own mother. Who's Lena Paytas? I don't know her. You know what I mean? That's just like something we do. And, you know, I just was doing a little.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's my mother, Anna.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I love they don't want tour. I have every copy of Vogue. I was in Vogue. I was in Vogue for my Broadway and I was in Britain Vogue for something interview.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Talking about my Kim Kardashian Met Gal look that I did when I was nine months pregnant with Elvis. So I feel like I do give fashion. I think I can make anything fashion, you know, like, I think. Yeah. So I'm in my Ella era. I would love. When is it we'll get to be there? Because May 5, I have Netflix and May 9, I have my Palm Springs show, but it might be the first weekend.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm hoping it's the first Monday of May.

[Trisha Paytas]

So just the first Monday.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, it's a Friday. May. Oh, wait, no, start. I love how I said it's the first Monday. I thought I was looking at May 1st. It is. What day did you say it's is?

[Trisha Paytas]

May 5th is Netflix. May 9th is Palm Springs.

[Moses Hacmon]

May 4th is the Met Gala. So you're gonna have to pull a Connor story and just fly red eye right after. Yeah. From New York to California. But that's furious.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could do that because my show's like 10 o' clock at night on May.

[Moses Hacmon]

Easy peasy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. May 5th.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, it's possible.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is very possible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wood gag. May 4th. Oh, my. May is a good month. May is my month. You know, May the fourth be with me. May the fourth be with. I have a lot. I have the Met Gala, I have Netflix. As a joke. I have the Palm Springs. In between that, I have my birthday, my dad's 70th birthday, Elvis's second birthday, and my UK show. And possibly a show with Tana. Not possibly. It's happening, but I can't announce the date yet. So there is my Korean album drops on May. Like, there's so much. So May. Watch out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But Matt Gal is first or no, is it May, April or May?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I have two shows coming out. April. I guess it depends what episode mine is. I don't know. My episode of Euphoria I know my episode for the other thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

You're right, you're right. April 12, 2026.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. I think I have like two shows coming out in April.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is wild. My manager was like, like trying to figure out like what we should be excited for, like what events. So we know, like press or whatever. And she's like, what about Euphoria? And I was like, sister, I think the only stars you'll be able to book from Euphoria is maybe Cherry Valentine and Trisha Paytas. I don't. You guys, this Jacob Elordi, I don't think that man's gonna be chit chatting that much. I don't think they are gonna be chit chatting that much.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's the final season. You don't think.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think they'll be very particular. I think they'll talk to maybe like a Vogue. I think they'll talk to the very like, classy. Maybe Jake will do Jake Shane therapist. But I can't imagine him really doing the like a hardcore press tour. I think Hunter Schaefer will go on Owen Thiel's podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

We might have someone from Euphoria come on our podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Zendaya. Yeah, it's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do have one, but I haven't even told you because I don't know for sure. It's. It is a maybe, but it's don't go.

[Moses Hacmon]

You better not be doing any Q and A's, any live shows, because that's where it all goes. I know, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But this one I've been keeping just in case and I feel really excited and gagged. So we might also be having someone from before. Maybe it's 50 50.

[Moses Hacmon]

Zendaya's confirmation. She's gonna do wedding band reveal. Wedding photo reveal.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought I saw the wedding photos. They showed Moses. They look so real.

[Moses Hacmon]

AI is. It does actually look like a crazy paparazzi from like far away. Yes, but you wouldn't have heard about it for the first time after La Rose just leaked it, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I saw the ones where they were going underneath the fireworks. Did you see that one? There's ones where there was like fireworks. There was one where all three of the spider mans were doing the Spider man pose. And the day was like.

[Moses Hacmon]

You were like, this is it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It looked real. And there was one where like Robert Jr. Is like hugging both of them from the back and it just was like so. It looked so real. And I was like, oh my God, these are so cute. Why would they have not Shown them. And then I did have to go underneath and see that the AI got me.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should be jail. Honestly, like, like, that's crazy that they can like trick people. Okay, I know I'm not supposed to be watching AI, but my entire FYP is AI Fruit. Have you seen this?

[Moses Hacmon]

I've seen you have. What do you mean? Was it in your repost or something? I feel like repost it. I feel like I've seen you share this at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

The AI fruit people, because Jimmy and

[Moses Hacmon]

I were talking about this and then it. Because we. It showed up for us at some point too. And we're both like, damn, Trisha made it show up in our fyp.

[Trisha Paytas]

I won't stop showing up on my fip. It's like a saga. It's like a soap opera. And it's like two strawberries. And the strawberries boss is keeping her late and they're obviously having a fair. And he's again. And then the strawberry gets pregnant and this other strawberry dad is so happy comes out and he's like. She meets this guy that she made fun of for being poor, but now he owns a restaurant and she needs a job at the restaurant. And then she stole another homeless fruits baby. And then there's like little ipod. This is a bananas that have. That same thing happens. They cheat on him with a boss so they think they have a baby iPad. And now she has the apple baby. Have you not seen this?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like. And they get millions of views and millions of likes. It's so good. It is like a soap opera.

[Moses Hacmon]

So they're just repeating this formula with different inanimate objects and you're seated for each one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seated for each.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm going to send them to you. I get like, I get a thousand. They're so good. And back to the fruit ones of the babies eating themselves.

[Moses Hacmon]

It definitely has environmental effects as well as just. Just effects on art in general. And since you're an artist, you should be like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. But like, first of all, no one could even create replicate what the fruit affairs are doing. Like, to me, that's like so good that like you couldn't recreate that with people. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but you could.

[Moses Hacmon]

You can animate like an artist could animate or CGI this little fruit with the same storyline that they're just copying and pasting a different inanimate object.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think it'd be as funny though, because the way the AI script

[Moses Hacmon]

because One guy AI just learns from like real people's work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I'm here for it. The chat GPT really does, you know, get someone, someone DM Moses, a chat GPT thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I was like, brother was like. Because I was talking to him about like also financial stuff. He's like, well, did you guys chat GPT? And he's very. He's a little low key. And I was like, my dad.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? My dad is like, yeah, he is

[Moses Hacmon]

like in his 40s though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your brother?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And I was like, like, I don't know if I'm going to be doing all that, but okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, my dad, everything. He'll be like, how many humans have walked this earth? Like, do you have any guess in its entire span of human life?

[Moses Hacmon]

No idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, ask chat GPT trillions.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Darian]

But I version of it, he has a, he has a name for. There's a different version that he uses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he also logs his food with chat GPT. He takes a picture and then it tells him how many calories.

[Darian]

Now the thing is that even, you know, with recent events in the world, basically the government went to all the AI companies and they're like, hand over all of it and we're going to use it for war. Oh, and there's only one company that said no. So all those companies are big because

[Trisha Paytas]

they go to jail.

[Darian]

The government had like a 200 million dollar account with them, so they just canceled it. They're like, okay, we're not going to use you or pay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. They sacrificed a $200 million account work

[Darian]

out because they said the red line was they don't want their system to be used for targeting humans because they don't believe it's good at that. They believe there'll be problems and mistakes made. Like we know what it's good at and we know what it's not good at.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Darian]

So we don't want to use AI for war. And that's what they're doing. So all I'm saying is like JPT open AI. They did not say no. They just handed it over.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, again, serious question not being funny, couldn't they use that to find Nancy Gun 3 like get all the AI information from.

[Darian]

Not so much in figuring it out. They could use it specifically for technical stuff. Like if there's a video, if there's a phone.

[Moses Hacmon]

They have like tens of thousands of videos of cars right now that they're looking at finding this one. They didn't say what, what the maker, model, anything was. But they have tens of thousands of videos that the FBI is going through trying to find this one car. So they have people going through all the footage. I'm sure there's probably an element, a tool of AI, not the gen, like a generative AI, but just a tool that, like, every job kind of has a tool that kind of. Every job is like AI tool that helps make things a little bit faster. But they, you know, there's still like agents looking over everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, it just is so odd

[Darian]

to have things they found that there was. There was only one person in Colorado, I think that Google searched her name before she was kidnapped, for example, like, so there's things you can find.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Darian]

Or the AI maybe to try to locate phones that were pinging around her house at a certain time and then try to locate, I don't know, just things like that. But it's not. That's. That's what I'm saying. AI can do certain things and it cannot do other things. It's not like just a smart do it all. So when you put human life at stake, you shouldn't be using that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Darian]

And it can also target innocent people.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting. Yeah. I guess it could be used for nefarious purposes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yeah. But it is very interesting. Like, you'd be surprised. That's why I said before it's very hard to get away with the crime because of technology. It is cool. It's really cool. As far as like, like looking through cameras, the street cameras, traffic cameras. Yeah. Any little, tiny little thing of trace DNA, which is like the smallest little thing you can imagine, they can like, build the whole DNA sample from it and then they, using genetic DNA, they can like, see, match it to like, the family tree to find a relative of the person who committed the crime. It is like, so fascinating to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how they found Chris Watts. Right. Was from Ring, like the neighbors Ring camera song.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. And then like the Idaho case with Brian Cober, that was like one tiny little bit. He almost got away with it. But on a knife sheet, there was a tiny little speck, like the smallest speck you can imagine of trace DNA. Where it was in, like the little button, like the little clasp, the tiniest little speck. And then they were able to build a whole genetic profile, used it. There's only certain databases they can use. This is so interesting. I don't know if anyone cares, but it's so fascinating.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it is.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's only a couple databases that, that you. Where you can't go to, like, Ancestry or 23andMe and like, ask for any customer who has put their DNA. But there's a couple little smaller places that the government or FBI, whatever, can access, like, those genetic bases.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would think the FBI could access anything.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, because it's like a product or whatever. They're trying. They're trying to eventually be able to access these huge ones, like a 23andMe and the bigger ones, I mean.

[Trisha Paytas]

But 23andMe has leaked their own. Own information. Everyone's information like that should be able to access it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. So it's not as like, ins. Like, they don't have access to as much as you think. It's like smaller genetics companies that they can access, but so they build the profile, they build out the DNA and then they go and compare it to everything that's in, like, the system. It takes a lot, like, weeks, months, years to find a match sometimes. But eventually. Yeah, it's really cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think that is the great thing about technology, which is cool. I was thinking about that too when, like, Aquaman's like, 80, like, what the technology will be like, just. Yeah. No one can get away with it, which is good. I feel like back in the day when you look at, like, the Zodiac killer and like, no one's ever been able to find him, I'm like, what the hell? Like, I guess just they didn't have any of that back then.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. The resources are crazy. And they even use that genetic criminology now to solve old cold cases. I don't know. I think that's very interesting. Yeah. I don't think I could ever be, like, a criminologist or whatever, but I am fascinated by, like, what you can do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. The. I think it just takes a lot of attention to detail and, like, I

[Moses Hacmon]

just couldn't handle, like, the gross elements to it with like, crime scenes and stuff like that. I wouldn't be able to, like, even. I can't even watch. I love the Pit. I can't watch 60 of it. Anything that's, like, gory.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You know, there was something recently how to, like, turn. I was like, well, I don't want to see it. Yeah. Don't do well with that. But you know what? Yeah. Shout out to technology. Technology for that. We. We like it. We need it. AI, I guess works when we are looking for somebody, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. It could be a helpful tool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Helpful tool.

[Moses Hacmon]

Responsibly. Much like everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything else. Energy drinks, alcohol, you know, Everything. Yes, everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Little everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We are responsible by row today, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love that. A proud, loud and proud customer right here.

[Trisha Paytas]

One of my friends actually sent me the ROW link. They're like, you can actually get it here at Roe. I was like, well, that's one of my sponsors. It's so funny. It was so, like. Like, authentic, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

You tr.

[Darian]

Archburger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you try the Arch.

[Moses Hacmon]

I did not try the Archburger.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was pretty good.

[Moses Hacmon]

McDonald's CEO responding to his own, like, viral moment?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I saw Burger King CEO respond by taking a big bite of his burger. What did McDonald's CEO say?

[Moses Hacmon]

He just said he does actually eat McDonald's at least three times a week, allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

My opinion, there's just no way. The way he took that bite. Look, I don't even like sauce on burger, but I was gonna commit because I'm not gonna lie, the burger patty were so tasty. Those were good. I don't like sauces, but that was part of the experience. So I was like, okay, I'll do it. But it actually was like, the bun was fresh, the burgers were thick. It was actually really good. Like, there's no way he eats McDonald's like that. Like a baby bite. No one does. I mean, not to be like, whatever, but you're, like, grown up, grown man, you know? Like, you take a big bite. Like, don't take little bites. It looks like something like the bite. I'm not trying to judge his bite size, but it was giving. Like when Malibu eats a little apple and she has, like, a little tiny bite. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't. I don't believe he eats it. Which is fine. You're the CEO. You don't have to eat it, you know? But he doesn't eat it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I like when a CEO stands by their product, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, Kylie is crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's always wearing Kylie's always wearing that Kylie cosmetics. Selena's always wearing rare beauty. You should be eating your McDonald's nearly every damn day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we need to see it more then. We need to see that mukbang more, and we need to see bigger bites, because no one eats McDonald's in little bites like that, especially a new product. You got, like, the Burger King CEO, bless him. He was. He was chomping on that burger. He was. He was selling it. I liked it, though. Honestly, I did like it. And I don't even, like. Like, if I get a burger, I'm in and out, and there's in and out right by McDonald's. So I'll like go to in and out. But you like the burgers at McDonald's. You'll get a double double or something over there. Sometimes, I don't know, I just, I like it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, I was kind of Moses. But like I looked at you because he wasn't paying attention. What do you. But you don't get the burger there sometimes. Sometimes, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I usually. I'm usually just a nugget. Sometimes if I'm really hungry, I also get like a cheeseburger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they're little there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, they're little. So sometimes if I need a little extra.

[Trisha Paytas]

The archburger is humongous. But it is $10. Even the lady at the window was like, yeah, I was like. She goes, oh, you're trying the archburger day. I was like, yeah, it's like so popular now. And she's like, no. And I was like, why? And she goes, $10. Like, that is kind of crazy. Oh, I do hate fast food because I want to say in and out, like 275 for a burger or something. I might be wrong, but I know when I go there it's always like really cheap. Right. My 275. I know their Cokes are like $2. Like they're pretty cheap in and out.

[Moses Hacmon]

You're right. It costs between 250 to 450 maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

In n out expert.

[Darian]

Yeah, but the meat, I think it's also a quarter of the meat in and out. I mean, there's like no meat in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just like them. No, I, I prefer that patty. Right, right, right.

[Darian]

Quantity wise is it is kind of four times that. But either way, like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want, I would want to pay more and get a good quality food.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you can go to Shake Shack and get a bigger burger and. Or the stand has big burgers and they're like less. Yeah, Quality burgers should always be cheap. When McDonald's first opened, it was like 25 cents for a burger. I think they should always keep that. Who is it? Arizona tea. Always keeps it under a dollar. They never go above it. 99 cents.

[Moses Hacmon]

Costco hot dogs. They're always like, they end up increase the prices.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they, they should. Because like, realistically, those foods don't cost more. Yeah, I had a fast food. I'd want to keep it cheap. Like really good nuggets. Wendy's used to have a dollar. Nuggets. 99 cent nuggets.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, they definitely don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I think the dollar menu Is everywhere. Is kind of gone, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Bring that back. Dollar menu everywhere. McDonald's. You can't get a dollar fry. Damn. My advice to Wendy's, not sponsored. I would bring also back the yellow packaging. Everybody wants that yellow packaging back with the sunroofs and stuff. I loved it. We did. We were on a Wendy's kick for a while. We were always eating Wendy's here.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, those nuggets were hitting for a bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought I was getting a big potato. I thought that was pretty good. Burger King trying to get back on the map with their CEO. I always loved a Burger King, but they are kind of falling. Huh?

[Moses Hacmon]

You know what?

[Trisha Paytas]

They're falling.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God. I forgot. You did live first. Burger King.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was my wa. Their chicken sandwich. They changed the chicken sandwich format. And then they had a spicy chicken sandwich. That was so freaking good.

[Moses Hacmon]

I haven't had Burger King in a long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me neither. Sometimes they have a cheesy Tots that are good, but they. They don't have those all the time. It's good. I like it. They're very nice. My Burger King, like, they definitely don't know who I am, but they always give me, like, free T shirts and stuff. They're always like, you want a T shirt? And I was like, yeah. They're always like, really nice. Jack in the Box trying to make a comeback. I've seen a lot of sponsorships. They have a hot mess box out right now. I don't think it's Alex or Ell related, but it sounds. It does sound like her podcast. They also have Matcha. Jack in the Box has Matcha now. Yes. Yes. I've seen some ads for Matcha. Actually, they sent me a Matcha tote. I have a couple Matcha tote from Jack in the Box. With the Jack in the Box thing. Yeah, that Matcha. So they're trying to get back on the radar. We say bring those fried Mac and cheese, the triangle ones. Back when I was in college for six weeks, I used to get those all the time. And they were so good. Bring back that and start fast food roundup. I'm invested. I follow snack later. I've invested in everything. Oh, today at Starbucks with all the lavender and UBE drinks. We're back for spring. Are you a lavender person?

[Moses Hacmon]

No lavender. But I am an ube. I do love ube.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, I tried at ube actually. It might still be in there. They had an UBE Frappuccino and ube. Like, it came. It was a little sticky. It Was kind of overflowing. So I was like, oh, I can't really drink this, but I do like ube, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love u.

[Trisha Paytas]

That should be one of our Patreon's Going to the veta to go get that u. There's so many good cheesecakes, those tres leches. And ube. Every time I go there, I'm always like, I want to eat everything here.

[Moses Hacmon]

That would be good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tamales. Yeah, you can eat the crunch so it gets crunchy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tea might be a good one.

[Moses Hacmon]

That would be really good. Actually, I'm kind of here for that

[Trisha Paytas]

Trucks by you because someone said you have to go to the actual trucks. You had a corn one by you when I went one time.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, we have stands. I don't know. Not a truck. But they do have, like, street vendors, I guess, for.

[Trisha Paytas]

For food. Yeah. Sometimes in those tents they say are the good ones. Because everyone's like, don't go to Vallarta. Go to this.

[Moses Hacmon]

Actually, our neighbor makes them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, let's try his.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we'll pay for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should do a little taste test, huh? What do you mean? Just make some out of his house.

[Darian]

Homemade ones are the best ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

They really are.

[Moses Hacmon]

Ghost kitchen, right?

[Darian]

Maybe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I think they just cook all day, like, for their work. Like, they just cook out of their kitchen all day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, for the work, you know? Now anybody in California can be on, like, door dash. You can put your. Yeah, I saw someone. Anyone. Like, you can get seafood boils. You can just pull up to someone's house.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

The matcha place has the hell kitties at someone's house. Like, you just go to someone's house.

[Moses Hacmon]

We should do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

What are we cooking?

[Moses Hacmon]

Moses can cook something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Oh, my God. That's kind of everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should get a partnership with doordash. Yeah, that's a really good idea. Oh, my God. I love that. Doordash partnership.

[Darian]

Let's go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses Bolognese for one day only. One week only.

[Darian]

Because when Eminem had.

[Trisha Paytas]

He still does mom's spaghetti in Detroit, when I played there, it was like, spaghetti and little Chinese boxes. Oh, it's not good. What's the spider would win. I love it. This is an idea. Your breakfast sandwiches on the weekends. Those would hit the way you wrapped them up. One time you did that for me after we saw challengers.

[Moses Hacmon]

You.

[Trisha Paytas]

You wrapped it up like they did. Kind of like it was so cute. And I was like, wow. I feel like I have. Or I think it was the Harley Quinn movie, too. She has A breakfast sandwich that's wrapped in the beginning. I think just do that one.

[Darian]

Do that with the runny eggs. Cuz if I do that, I'll burst the egg.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you runny egg fan.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like the over easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Situationally situation that you would love when

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm in the mood for one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. I love a runny egg. Just getting that yolk just drizzle down your mouth.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have to be in the mood for it. But I do like it when they like, I like to dip my toes like with the yolk. For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It bursts. I get a little bit of it in my mouth and if it drips into the thing, then I scoop it up.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. That is like the quintessential like Trisha Paytas like meal though. Like you love a little drip.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, A little burst all over.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was so. I. It was. I. I did it on Sunday. I filmed it. I couldn't even post it because it was so disgusting the way I was eating it. It was just like dripping down my face. Like no one's usually around. Like the kids usually have their sandwiches already. Mo's usually in the kitchen. So I'm just like eating it like and it was too disgusting to even post. I was like, oh my God, I'm eating like an animal. But it was so good. That's why you have to eat those. They're just so messy. They're just not a cute.

[Darian]

When you have a beard, you just cannot tell. There's just no way that is true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You never have food in yours. I dated someone with a really beardy beard and they always had food and it always disgusted me. I'm always like. But I mean, I make sense. Food would fall into it. You never do. No, you never do. I like this shirt. Is this Western? Western Hawaiian. I like it.

[Darian]

Yeah, it does feel like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was the vibe when you were. Oh, you saw. I love it. Otd you come here and do an ootd. Oh, I. I thought he was doing the ootd. I do like it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

With the ponytail too. You're giving. Give me Antonio Banderas and Zorro.

[Darian]

I'll take it.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was your inspo behind this top?

[Darian]

I just, I like the colors, the patterns. Just was a nice, interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what you search to find it.

[Darian]

Shirts to wear on a podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you did not google that. We need that search bar. What was it? Blue shirt, Blue Hawaiian, Blue water.

[Moses Hacmon]

Water.

[Darian]

There's one company and that's the one

[Trisha Paytas]

you don't want to shout them out.

[Darian]

So. Because I always go there because they just. Their size is perfectly fitted to me and the fabrics they use don't bug me. So that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's your version of Skims on Amazon. Like this is the best company. I love it. Skims is my go to. What's your go to? Abercrombie. You wear a lot of Abercrombie right now.

[Moses Hacmon]

Uniqlo. This whole outfit.

[Darian]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Both of you guys. He loves a Uniqlo too. We need that Uniqlo sponsorship because you both love it so much. Much. It's all Uniqlo.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Go to New York to go to that unique load. Seven stories. It's huge. It's the biggest. Unique loads. Right across from Skims actually. Right across.

[Moses Hacmon]

You can just order online though, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's so fun to go to a store. You don't want to go. Don't be that person. It's so fun to go to a store.

[Moses Hacmon]

You're right, you're right, you're right.

[Darian]

Maybe that's why. Cuz now that I have one that actually fits me well, I can do it online. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's.

[Darian]

Otherwise I don't order anything online.

[Trisha Paytas]

Clothes wise.

[Darian]

I have to try.

[Trisha Paytas]

Try it on like this.

[Moses Hacmon]

I've tried on in the store and one color and then I just went online and then every other color.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's me too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a very normal thing that people do. Once you find something that fits you, you're like, I'm just gonna order everything in this color.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me segueing into another tick tock fashion.

[Trisha Paytas]

They say fat. I was like, what's the fat topic?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should have a fat topic segment.

[Moses Hacmon]

We love talking about weight food segment.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Just me. That's my news. That's my news feed.

[Moses Hacmon]

We need to have a little like fatty news. Fatty news graphics.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love it. I feel like there's some fatties out there still watching. I know everyone's on the GLP1, but I'm on it.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I still like a little McDonald's, a little Wendy's.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have the inner fatty. You're no longer a fatty on the outside, but the inner fatty. I mean, you're not that you are, but you know what I mean. But you also do eat healthy and work out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. There was a tiktoker. I don't. I don't know if I'm just biased and relating it to you is in a very roundabout way. You'll see in a second. But there's this tick Tocker who was single and she had a saga where she went looking for a wedding dress. So she went wedding dress shopping despite that she was single and her name is Shayla Quinn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

And she said this saga got over like 5 million views. And she said after this happened, she ended up getting a lot of men sliding into her DMs. Seems like wanting to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. She manifesting tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

But. So that led me to thinking when you were getting married to, like, the cardboard cutouts and the Panda Express. The cardboard cutouts. Was anyone offering to replace the cardboard?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Did not work for me. Is she a pretty girl? I would assume probably. I bet she's skinny. I bet she's skinny. Yes. No, mid size.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is she? Is she.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's exactly skinny. Privilege. And it's real and you should take advantage of it because if you're skinny, it's gonna be a lot easier.

[Moses Hacmon]

She said she's flooded with DMs after her wedding. Was she pretty?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, she's probably also like Alex Earl. She's probably like, gorge. And you're like, well, yes, this makes sense.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is funny.

[Darian]

She just made her own version of Love is Blind or Married at first sight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Married at first sight.

[Darian]

They meet at.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was trying to do that. I see that cardboard cut out. Me with the Panda Express all the time meets you. And I'm always like, I guess I manifest. It does kind of like Moses, that little outline.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, Jimmy edit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Put Moses next to the cutout and see, like, if they look alike.

[Trisha Paytas]

The shoulders kind of go down the same way. The head shape.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pretty tall.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I should look. I should go back and listen to what I was saying to that cardboard cut out. Was I hinting was like, have a glass of water. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm so thirsty. Like, I don't know. Like, it probably was manifesting Moses, I think Lydia. I just saw Lydia the other day and she was telling me, like, oh, how did you manifest Moses? And I'm like, I'm trying to think. I was like, maybe somewhere, maybe I did. I feel like there's the clips of me saying stuff biblical, I guess, as with Jesus, I guess I kind of manifested you because you're doing Jesus. At the time, maybe I didn't really work for me. I was trying to manifest. I think I had a cardboard cut out of Brad Pitt, a cardboard cutout of Keanu Reeves, but it never worked out. Did you see Christina Applegate? Is this like old news or like, is it just Going on my Twitter, the from her memoir saying that she in the 80s ditched Brad Pitt mid date to go on a date with Sebastian Bach from a hair metal band. Where is Sebastian Bach from? Not Guns N Roses. What is he from? Oh my God, I used to love this band. Sebastian Bach was the singer of Twisted Sisters. No.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe he Skid Row.

[Trisha Paytas]

Skid Row, you know skid row?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

18 in life, you got it. 18 in life to go. Your time is crime and it's 18 in life to go. You don't know he like screamed like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You got forced to keep my lids into I still stuck inside this rubber room you don't know. The news gets tighter around my throat but I ain't at the end of my rope no, I won't be the one left behind can't be king of the world if you're slay to the grind. You don't know no, this is me at 18. I'm probably dancing to it in my little apartment. Me on metal sledge. Just trying to find all these old rockers that are like 55 years old. Just being like, who want to date me? And I would try and find everyone from these bands. I think I actually did meet like the drummer from Skid Row, the second loop around or something like anyways, Sebastian Bach was like anyways. So I guess this hot topic doesn't like you won't be gagged by it. But she left Brad Pitt to go with Sebastian Bach, who was leading, who was pretty cute. Did you google him? He was pretty cute back then. He was on Surreal Life. But I think he's had some work done. I don't know, maybe he had an accident. I don't know. But like he was very beautiful. I think he did. I think. I don't want to be like mean, you know, but he was gorge. He was like really beautiful and pretty in the 80s, like a young Sebastian Bach. If you type that in.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, okay, he's pretty. Whatever. But she said yeah, it was the wrong choice, she said because, you know, she was on Married with Children, so she's a hot young actress or whatever. But Sebastian Bach was married with a one year old.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

When she and she. So then she went back to Brad Pitt and Brad Pitt was like not having it. He was not about it. But like the concept of leaving Brad Pitt for Sebastian Bach is crazy. Even in their primes. She said Brad Pitt wasn't the Brad Pitt that he is now. He was an up and comer. So like she really wasn't Gagged by him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Him. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of crazy though.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, she brought Brad Pitt to her date at the 1989 VMAs.

[Darian]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I had no idea about this lore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I love 80s lore like this because it's just like, who was it too? Oh, Linda Thompson, who was Elvis's girlfriend at the time of his death, also dated Rob Kardashian. Also had kids with Caitlyn Jenner. Also married David Foster. Like had kids with, with. Oh no, she had. She had kids with Caitlyn. Cuz. Brody Jenner. His mom is Linda Thompson. And I guess Linda Thompson married David Foster and they had Princess of Malibu, which was like their reality show. And then I guess she's no longer David foster because Katherine McPhee.

[Darian]

Whoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I saw her at the Elvis parade. She was so nice. And I was gay because she was Elvis's last girlfriend. I was like, oh my gosh, Linda Thompson, she follows me too. Should I have her on the podcast? I really like her, but. Yeah, but you know, anyways, my point is, is like how these women get all these hot men. Like you just have so many of these hot men want to date you. It's so wild. Kudos to them. Honestly. Even Taylor Swift, I look at her as like icon. I'm like, damn, you got all the hot guys. Granted she is like super famous and hot herself, but. But how can you get so many hot, successful guys? I guess that's why Elizabeth Taylor kept getting married. I'm just gonna keep marrying.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think about it a lot.

[Darian]

Lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kendall Jenner.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz she, she's had Harry and Bad Bunny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. She has all the. Yeah. I guess that's why you don't want to be tied down. I get it. Oh my God. I don't get it. Wish I know. That's what I'm saying. I really love when people have like exciting lives.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mine is like sad. My history of Meant for Moses. I was so sad. And that's why I would never date again. Because I'm like, honestly, that was depressing. Like I wanted to unalive myself because I was dating the worst people. And that's the truth. That's not even being funny. That's the truth. And it's like. It's awful. It's awful. But don't give up hope because there are Moses out there. It's awful.

[Darian]

There's lots of normies out there and

[Trisha Paytas]

there's lots of people who don't identify as anything. They're just beings. And you know what? They're out there. They're out, you know. Darian, Shout out. Darian, thank you so much for the White Lotus glasses. That was so nice. I sent him a dm. I was gonna fill him up because I love to drink like little apple juice out of there. Cause it looks like it's like scotch on the rocks or something. And I was gonna do that and send it to him. Cause it's really, really cute. That was really nice of him. I thought about that a lot. No one really. Just gifts you things. That was so nice. Like he just thought of me. The White Lotus Love Darian too. So there are those people out there. God.

[Moses Hacmon]

Dating horror stories. I guess. Demi Lovato and Keke Palmer were talking about their age, relationships and Kiki's podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I love Kiki's podcast. I love it so much. That's my favorite. It's in seasons though, so it's not always around. It comes in chunks. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And she talked about her relationship with Wilma Valderrama when she was 17 and he was 29.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, crazy. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he had a pattern of his behavior. He was always dating barely there 18 year olds or 17, I guess in her case was Lindsay Lohan. 18.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But again, 18. Why are we dating? 17. 18. 17. Illegal. 18. Disgusting.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And Kiki, her relationship when she was 15 was with a 20 year old.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she say who was it an actor or anything or wasn't specified?

[Moses Hacmon]

She didn't specify. She said I was 15, he was 20. I was trying to balance between being really young but also feeling quite mature.

[Trisha Paytas]

15 and 20 is so.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So disgusting. Okay, I guess like 17, thinking almost adult. 15 is not nowhere near 18. 15 like in every year counts from like birth to 18. Like every year is so vastly different and you change so much and you're just like, you're full. You're not fully developed in any capacity physical and mentally emotional. Like it's such a puberty specifically, which is 15 is like the word. It's so hormonal. Everything is changing. The absolute worst time to be in a relationship with someone like that person should be in jail. Jail. How are they not in jail? I guess you have to press charges. Yeah, they should be in jail. They should be in jail. They should be in jail. But yeah, I mean, I get it. I guess you also think like, well, you know, at that age you think like, well, you know, I wanted to be in this relationship. I thought I was like mature, you know, you think you want it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Especially I mean, with Kiki she talked about like how since being a child star, like you are like the breadwinner of the family. So that does make this complex where you think you're like an adult even though. Though you are a teenager.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then it isn't until you become. That's what Demi and Kiki were saying. Like once they became the age of the person they were dating. And then it's like the concept of like me being this age and dating someone. The age I was like, if when I'm a 20, the content of me dating a 15 year old or like me at 30 dating a 17 year old, like that, I can't even like fathom that. So like how was this a thing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think I'm the age. I think Nick Vile was when he met Natalie Joy or when they were started dating like 18, 19. So I like that'd be like meeting like a 19 year old. Clavicular me and clavicular dating.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the first one that comes to my mind, but you know what I mean? Like, that's so crazy. Like, like literally like a child, like a little child. Like that's so insane.

[Darian]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean there's just no reason, there's no, there is nothing you have in common other than you being a creep and be like, wow, you really get me. And then the younger person be like, I feel old for it. Because like the younger person, especially like Kiki and Stu, I get it. Yeah. You said like you like you think you're an adult. You're like, you know, you're in these adult situations. So like you think you can like handle it. It's not about handling it or not. It's just you're 15, you know, like you're just scientifically not able to be there, but gross on the old person. The old person doing that. Corny Stone talks a lot about it. She's like silenced so much. Like no one talks about her story. But like him being 51 and her being 16 when they got married, that's crazy. It's insane. It's insane. Insane. And everyone like, no, it's crazy. More people just don't talk about. I guess like people just don't care. But it's just like not even the Wilmer and Demi. Like I just remember it being like not no one. No one causing a ruckus about it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe a little later.

[Moses Hacmon]

Public.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're very public.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it also is a weird. It doesn't feel that long ago, but it was like because I remember Miley was 17, she was just dating underwear model in his like 20s. And they were like very public. Like paparazzi walks, PDA and everything. I mean even like Kylie and Tyga.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. It's just like really is a shift. Fairly recently. I honestly think tick tock. Kind of woke up, woke it up

[Trisha Paytas]

with a lot of things crazy. I could see like the Jerry Seinfeld back in like the 90s. Okay. I guess like no one's like, whatever. I'm still like, these are young.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, definitely by then we were like kind of. I would hope.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. But not really. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hopefully now. No, I guess people are kind of clocking it now. But still kind of not really. You said to McGuire has a girlfriend's kind of like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but he does like he, he's fairly public about it in the, in the sense that he, he is like a public. He is that like, I don't know, public spaces, like a bass. A baseball game or tennis game or whatever. But he's not like doing the full blown like paparazzi walks, red carpets. Whereas back then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were so.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is kind of Hillary Duff, which was a Joel Madden.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And like openly like 16 with a 20s. And you're just like, okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Weird. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I guess you think about like Woody Allen like for so long people were just like, yeah, that makes sense.

[Moses Hacmon]

So weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know. I hate it. I hate it so much and. But I'm glad they talk about it because again, I think girls should like know it's not normal. Hopefully like the destigmatized, the glamorous of an older man. That's why I'll always keep talking about it too. Saggy balls. If we have to go back to last episode. Saggy skin. Do you really want that on top of you during the youth? No, no, Stick to youth. Maybe when you're 30 like you said 30. If you wanted a 7 year old, go for it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. 18, 19, 16, 17. Not.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can the parents, like I was thinking about like with my kids, can I put them in jail? Do you know what I mean? Like if my daughter's like, if I see her out on a red carpet with you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pressure. Maybe. I don't know. Because they are. If they're minor and you're the parent,

[Trisha Paytas]

I think maybe you can like where would not to shame anyone but like, where were the parents when they'd be like, actually don't do that. I guess, I guess Courtney Sodom's mom, like Signed off on her getting married, which is even more insane. But I guess a theory. I guess if they're gonna do it, you want to be on good terms with them. I don't know. I'm trying to think positively here. Towards the end of the episode, my positivity goes away, dwindles. The wig tightens.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is. I can't even transition to this, like, eloquently. But I have to get to this because it's again, very Trishian. Did you see Chloe Kim on the Kelly Clarkson show?

[Trisha Paytas]

Chloe Kim?

[Moses Hacmon]

She's an Olympian, an Olympic athlete.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Wait, is it the one that Pink's hosting?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I didn't see that. I just saw Pink singing with her daughter.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so Pink was guest hosting for the Kelly Clarkson show. And Chloe.

[Trisha Paytas]

That makes sense.

[Moses Hacmon]

Came to the Kelly Clarkson show for an interview, and Chloe sat down and she was, like, geeked. Like, she was so gagged. She said, can I make a confession? Growing up, when I was like 12 or 13, I love listening to your music. When were snowboarding. I love your song. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And she goes, yes. And she goes, that's Kelly Clarkson.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened? Do you think, like, someone briefed her and she thought she was talking to Kelly Clarkson?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think she just got this. It does sound like it could be a Pink song. It's like pop rock. So I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it doesn't.

[Darian]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, okay. Is Chloe Kim younger? Old?

[Moses Hacmon]

She's pretty young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I think, like, someone briefed her going the Kelly Clarkson. So. So she's like, let me research Kelly Clarkson.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like 25.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so probably Pink. I love Pink. But I feel like she has been out of the spotlight for a minute. And I think, like, especially even Clarkson, I feel like Gen Z knows her as a talk show host, so, like, maybe doesn't know her song. So I think if I were preparing to go on like a Gen Z show, right? And I'm like, let me look up stuff they've done. Like, and I'm prepared in my head mentally. And I'm like, okay, this is who this person is. And they switched it on me. Right? Okay. The Olivia's, for instance, like an Olivia Jade swaps with Olivia Rodrigo. And like, you're going to do a duet with Olivia Jade. And I'd be like, okay. So I look up a thing and I seen a lovely Rodrigo song. I wouldn't think to swap it. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm like, oh, it's just an Olivia Or I'm going on, like, if you research somebody and they swap last minute would never know the difference. That's what I'm thinking. Does that make sense?

[Moses Hacmon]

Make sense? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think that's what happened. She probably was like, okay, this is Kelly Clarkson.

[Moses Hacmon]

Let me make sure I have.

[Trisha Paytas]

They kind of. Not to be whatever, but, like, millennial each other. Gen Z looks like each other. Like, they all kind of are inner child interchangeable. To me. Olivia Jade and Olivia Rodrigo are kind of interchangeable. You know what I mean? And I think that might be where she was thinking, even Pink, she's gonna catacin. When you said that, I was like, that makes sense. Should be. Should be helpful.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Like, sonically, I think this.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but even pop rock, even the show, she's like, dueting with everybody. And I was like, is it Kelly Clarkson? Because, like, that was a Kelly Clarkson thing to do.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So to me, it's like, very. If you don't know the difference, almost like Drew Barrymore and Kelly Clarkson swapping. I kind of honestly would. Again, I'm millennial. I would know. But. But, like, Gen Z, how are they gonna know? They're all, like, the same. They're all a talk show host, you know, Right? Actors, talk show singers. You're like, well, they're all kind of same because. Was she, like, gagged with Chloe Kim? Was she like, oh, sorry.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's like, oh, my God, I'm so. She's like, no, no. I'm so embarrassed. Wait, no, but I love, like, effing perfect. Like, pretty, pretty please.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so she was able to pull one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's a very common thing, I think, even I love Backstreet Boys Instinct. I'll get that mixed up all day long.

[Moses Hacmon]

Again, very Trisha. Like, it does give me something that you would do on your press tour for Euphoria. You know, they can't book. You know, they can't book Sydney Sweeney. But, you know, guess who will be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I will be there. Mixing things up. Like, yeah, Jacob Lord, he was always my fave love the Baz Luhrmann movie where he played Elvis. Like, he wasn't. You know what I mean? Like, you just get things mixed up. I can't keep it straight. Someone's like, Jake, Florida played Elvis. And I was like, in the bathroom, Like, I literally did not know. And I was like, yeah, you just get things mixed up. Again, they're kind of similar. Interchange, changeable.

[Moses Hacmon]

T. Even though you were very much seated for Priscilla, but I was not seated for Priscilla. I thought you did see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw it, wasn't seated for it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I see. You were seated in the movie theater, but not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, okay. I wasn't sad. I was, you know, that movie was a little iffy in my opinion, but I think it was a little, A little one sided by Priscilla's own admission. She's kind of. But, you know, whatever. You know, her story is her story. But I am an Elvis apologist. What can I say? I do love Elvis. But that's. That was a really long time ago. If we're not holding anybody accountable from 2010, let's not hold people from 1946. You know what I mean? Like, that's. Anyways. And like I've always said, once they're dead, we can stop canceling them. You know what I mean? That they're canceled. They're dead. You know, it's like kind of insane. It is crazy when people die and then they're just like, well, actually they did this, this. And this is just like, oh my God, rest in peace for a reason. You know, Someone recently died and like there was a girlfriend that came out. She. I was his last girlfriend. And everyone's just like, okay, just let him rest in peace. You know, it was a weird, it was weird because he, it was just like inappropriate. It's like, well, he wasn't. Nobody was talking about this while you're talking about him, I think kind of just trying to cause a stir. Be like, actually I was his last girlfriend and he said this and this and this. Like actually just let him rest in peace. My opinion. But I don't know, talking bad about the dead. I don't know. It's kind of. Even if you like hate someone, it's all right. They're dead. Right? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, in my head I get to like the Bridget Bardot thing with like everyone being like, oh, how sad. But then like, you didn't know, know that she was very racist and stuff. And you're like, oh, damn, like, like Chapel, like deleting her, like, tribute. It's like, oh, sorry, I didn't know she said this, this and this. I guess there is it like that maybe like you. I guess familiar. But she didn't say anything bad. She just says, my bad. I didn't know she stood for this, this and this. I feel like that's a different thing, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I suppose.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess like if you died being racist, you don't want to like glamorize that or like, you know, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the Racist is dead now, so mission accomplished.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but you want to be like, I'm just so, like, heartbroken, like, love this lady.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. I think you assume they don't love the racist part of her, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I think it's good to clarify. Okay. You know, in this day and age where everyone's a little, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Running amok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's running amok. Even on dead people. I was like, everyone just. It is funny the whole where we're going with our energy, but we need to go back to finding Nancy Gun 3. That's where our energy needs to be redirected, directed. It's true. Even Denny Directo gave up. He's like, well, we're leaving. Like, I'm not trying to be funny. Like, it's. I mean, I am, but it's sad, right? Like, I'm sad for it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm still working, they're still working.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I guess there's a lot of missing people in this world too. You think about that?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes, exactly.

[Darian]

Look, when the group chat was over, they stopped looking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Moses Hacmon]

The FBI is still on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, keep us updated on that group chat. That's the Patreon. I need to know what this group chat entails. I didn't know you had one like that. That's very exciting. Exciting. I am like weirdly like in it. And I've never been in like that for a case. But like, weirdly like, why can't especially because with things happening in the world, they finding other people, like in a different country, you're just like, well, find the person here.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is quite the mystery. But I. I still believe that they're going to get to the bottom of it. I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she can be alive. I think so. When I hear the Elizabeth Smart story, I'm like, I want her on the podcast. She was doing the rounds. She was on Dax Shepard's podcast. I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

The worst interviewer too, for it. He was like, so was it like being kidnapped? Like it was giving that. Yeah, it was giving that. And he had a co host. Dex is a co host, which is like crazy. And she's very smart and intelligent. Like does great follow up questions. But he's wild. I'd still go on his podcast, but he's. I just want to see how dubious he is. What can you say to me?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's a euphoria. Presto.

[Darian]

You are not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so booked me yet for a junket. I'm ready for it. I'm ready to see my part I hope I meant it. I hope I, like, don't get cut

[Moses Hacmon]

if you win the press release. They kind of have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's true.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be crazy if they like the

[Moses Hacmon]

little Meg Stalzer moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Or I'm not in it. They cut me. Yeah. Yeah, I'll probably be in it. I'm excited. I was five months pregnant. Not that it matters, Actually, I was. I'm bigger now than I was when I was five months pregnant. So it's the truth. Honestly, I weighed myself the other day, and I was like, oh, I'm not weighing myself anymore. The scale is my enemy. I think it's broken. Like, how the hell I could, like, not eat for literally. Like, I have grapefruit for two days straight, and it's like I gain a pound. I don't know what's up with that, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God, that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's awful. It's fine, though. I honestly, like, don't care anymore. I'm kind of like, whatever. I'll just keep going to my Pilates and. Oh, my God, I'm ready for Pilates. Underneath this, I got a skims and I got my leggings, and I'm ready to go. Later. Later. Not now. What are we doing? Safer paternally acting. Do you have time? What are we doing?

[Moses Hacmon]

Doing. I have to see if I have time. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can always act with Moses. Moses blue screen out. You and I are doing the acting challenge. We want to know how to put up the little.

[Darian]

Yeah, I always read your lines in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll just show all the self tapes we did last year.

[Moses Hacmon]

Need you guys to give us self tape.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel once the projects come out, because a lot of the products haven't come out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, you don't want to give anything away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But once they come, I think the Camp rock one specifically makes me chuckle every time.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have such a good idea. I. If I. I write you guys little, like, I'm gonna give you little self, like, fake scenario self tapes, and then you have to pretend, like, hypothetically self tape. And then Moses is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like improv.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, Like, I would give you, like, little things of dialogue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're gonna write the script. When you have time to do this,

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm gonna do it. Okay, but you have to. Can you guys please do it? I'm gonna write little. I would get little, like, scripts. I. I used to have to do that in drama class in high school. Like, we would have little scripts. We would usually pull, like, little scenes or from like movies or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Like existing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And just pretend that you're self taping for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we could do we do that anyways. Did you just take a. Without washing your hands? Come on, Maddie. I mean we do it all the time with like random scenes.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I need you guys to do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, we'll do all the Jacob Lordy scenes. I'm on our Jacob Elordi kick. Give us kissing booth. Wolverine. I don't even know what it's about. Is it gay?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's a love triangle. It's kind of like semi true. Pretty teas. Like one girl between two brothers.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, gross. I hate those girls.

[Moses Hacmon]

But then the third actually in the third one, a non brother came into the. Into the picture. Taylor Zakar Perez.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's giving Alyssa Violet, Jake, Paul Logan. Paul, right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was she torn between the two?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she definitely something because like Logan's like now she's on my. You know, like this whole thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I could be wrong. I believe I was not seated for

[Moses Hacmon]

that, but I certainly was.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's like a summer I turn pretty for Netflix coming this summer. I know because I And Netflix is a joke and they're like, oh, we have stars from whatever the show is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, they. Yeah, they do have a movie coming out. Each of them have different projects actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, do you know who it is? Who's in it?

[Moses Hacmon]

Chris Briney has something, has a Netflix movie. Lola Tongue has a movie with Lily Reinhardt and Emma Chamberlain which is fierce. And Gavin Castelligno has something. I don't know what his movie is, but. And then they have the summer it's in pretty movie that's coming out in a year or two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, but there's like a version of Netflix is doing. It's like. It's like a summer I turn pretty Knockoff Netflix or not knockoff. A similar thing. You don't know what that one is?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Farkle from Boy Meets World. Isn't it? But not the main. He's like supporting.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had a whole conversation about this.

[Moses Hacmon]

It doesn't surprise me because that's the original home of the Jenny Han cinematic universe. Was. Yeah, yeah. The After Kissing Booth was not Jenny Han, but it was a book that they. A YA book they adapted. It became a huge hit. And then to all the boys I love love before. That's the what's his name? Noah Centineo was in that one. And then they have a spin off of that with the little sister from that trilogy, I love Kitty. So her Name? I don't know. Her name is Kitty. I forget. Xo Kitty or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then Jenny Han went and did a semi turn pretty at Amazon. That's the lore there, so it wouldn't surprise me, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'm seated for that. I. I like.

[Moses Hacmon]

I like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like Netflix.

[Moses Hacmon]

I would hope so, since you're gonna do the job.

[Trisha Paytas]

We like Netflix. I wish Bridgerton would come on my Netflix is a joke thing. I love Bridgeton. They've been doing press at places never know. What's the next award show? Are we done? Oh, we're done.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is the next. Are you thinking of my life with the Walter boys?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that new or.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, it came out a while. I mean, there's. They do new seasons.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's a new one coming.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pony. One stupid thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea. Maybe. I know. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone's like, we can get the people from this one. And it's like the summer I turn pretty for Netflix and I was like, oh, okay. I don't know. Someone recently told me. Maybe it's not even announced yet.

[Moses Hacmon]

You leaking this?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm sure it's. I'm sure it's there if it's gonna come this summer. Probably one of the ones you said. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I have my last. My big story was the try, guys, once again, I did think this was funny, though. Did you see the new song saga with Keith having to break his silence. Oh, situation.

[Trisha Paytas]

This was like a week ago, and

[Moses Hacmon]

I wanted to talk about it, but

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't think you cared about it. I love that we are like, what? Mr. Beast is Rosina Pansino. Ned Fulmer is us. We're not letting off. No one cares. But we do. But I am seated for this. This is a drama I'm seated for. Because I can't stand Ned Fulmer. And I think he's so sneaky, sneaky. And I don't think he should be coming back to society this quickly. I think the taunt should cast him out. You know what I mean? Go to the countryside. Like, I am seated for Ned Fulmer. But that's why I wasn't seated for this. Keith tried to defend him. I was like, okay. Like, okay, you can set it up. But I was. You see this one?

[Darian]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

New video has resurfaced. New, old video.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone saw Ned during the time of the affair dancing, like, right in front, dancing. And Keith was in the back of this. Ned and dancing with one of the producers. They said.

[Moses Hacmon]

Said, yeah. It was in 2022 at Jason Aldine's Nashville bar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what? First of all, what? I know what, what you're at Jason Aldine's bar in Nashville.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like they. A Tik Tocker. Really? Just a boy on Tik Tok. Not officially Tik Tok.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what he said too. He's like, I'm just a guy. I was like, why don't you tmz? He's like, I don't even know. What does that mean?

[Darian]

Viral. You become a Tik Tocker now, right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Anyone who posted to Tick Tock questionably becomes a Tick Tock. Like technically, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sonic is gonna pick him up, Mac, he's gonna be out there with him.

[Moses Hacmon]

But he randomly posted an old video from 2022 of Ned, former dancing with a young lady, very closely gyrating in a national bar. And then it went viral. It got over 11 million views and 1.5 million likes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then. Which led to a lot of follow up questions because someone did see Keith in the background. They're like, wait, is that Keith?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You knew? That's what.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because in when this whole affair came out, the. The rest. The remaining Try guys infamously sat down and were very pissed off and said they had knew nothing about this, etc. And then SNL perioded it. It was a whole thing. So seeing Keith in the background and then people went to like go to Ned's Instagram to compare like the outfits of like what they saw Keith. We background versus where they were. So people had like time stamps and stuff to corroborate.

[Trisha Paytas]

The detectives are out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. That Keith was there in the back and the he. The original source of this video ended up having to clear his name because everyone was mad at him. They're like, oh, so you had this footage and you just enabled Ned Fulmer to be cheating this whole time. He's like, I don't even know who the guy was. He's like, I need to try, guys. I didn't know this whole lore about him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never have known that in a million years he could be dancing in front of me with HR producer Keith Lee himself and I would never know. I'd be like, what? No, I would not know this man.

[Moses Hacmon]

So yeah, he had basically to clear his own name because people, some people were like really mad at him, which is crazy. Yeah. And it did lead to Keith having to speak out, which is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He speaks out on this. There's so many things you can speak on that Fulmer. And it's like this one. It's like, okay. He's trying to clear the names of everybody involved.

[Moses Hacmon]

He said at the time they had just pitched their TV show and we're making their TV show. And they wrapped the first episode. So they went out to this Jason Aldean bar in Nashville to celebrate. He said, we freaking work so hard for this. All of us were also friends at the time. This is six months before the thing went down that I guess changes how we all might look at the video. Look at a video like. Like that. He said, but this is a video of Ned and our producer Rachel, who's been with us since 2018, dancing as friends, hugging and celebrating and being proud of ourselves for making a TV show.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's doing too much with the defense because how does he know all this? He's trying to imply, like, oh, they're just friends. Who's our producer? Yeah, it was also, wasn't that lady, the lady he cheated with a producer or something?

[Darian]

Like, he was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think this might be a pattern of behavior. And also, you didn't know about him and the girl that he did cheat with. So it's like, how would you. Why you just say, oh, they're just dancing as friends?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think him going that far is just almost. He has to defend Ned to defend himself, I think, because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. Yeah, but that's making me look at you side eye. Because you'd be like, oh, if you had nothing, if you did not. If you didn't know nothing, truly, if you knew nothing, whatever, like, you wouldn't have to defend all this. Like, honestly, this is something. I would just keep rolling because it's like, yes, Ned is a cheater. He probably. Maybe he cheated with other women. Like, maybe this is something. Not my places, Bill. But if you're guilty, you would defend yourself. Do you know what I mean? I feel like, like, when something's like, not true, as hard as it is, because it's like annoying to have, like, lies out there, it's just easier just, like, not defend yourself. Whatever. I mean, what. It's like, that wasn't me. I know my conscious. But if you're trying to clear your conscious feels weird. It feels weird to me because to him probably, like, you know, no, this is Brewster. We knew her for a while. She worked for.

[Moses Hacmon]

We were. They were just having.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were celebrating as friends. Well, you said you didn't know what was happening six months after with that lady. Where was Ned's wife? You know what I mean? Like, is she part of this group Is she standing right next to him? Like, I don't think so know, you know, maybe you don't know. Maybe you did. But like, you don't have to go that far. Also, it's like people are. You're already clear from this person. You've already distanced yourself from this person. Why are you defending so hard? I thought that was so sus. Because they don't say anything about anything. And this is what you're trying to clear?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. They haven't talked about Ned since.

[Trisha Paytas]

Since that. And is the producer still working for them?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, good.

[Trisha Paytas]

So is he just trying to be like. No, no, they're just friends. That part's cool. It's like, you know, trying to clear that as if it's not follow up. Thanks. I have no. I will be the Rosanna Pansino to this. I will stay on it because I am just. No. And that was weird. I think that's weird. It's like you've already done shelf. You made it very clear you're not for it. But my only guess is, like, there's still a tie. Maybe to this producer would be my guess because it's like a guess. Why are you going so hard? Because the video. Look, I don't know. There's all about, like celebrations like that. I just. I don't know. I think specifically guy. I will say there's a double standard, right? If it's Ned Fullmer's wife dancing with like Eugene or something from Try Guys, like, you know, I'd probably like, yeah, that's whatever. But it's for some reason when it's a guy, especially a guy, that's not proven cheater. I don't know. It's like very. I don't know if I saw like Moses dancing with like a makeup artist that close and be like, oh, they're just friends. They worked with us for a long time. Guys. Don't worry.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'd still be like, Especially like six months later.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. There's an affair with someone else.

[Moses Hacmon]

Another coworker.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think if you immediately say that again, it's like something maybe not that, like alarming and not just because, like, you're gay or. I think there is a double standard with like men doing it it with like girls also hetero man doing it with hetero woman versus girls doing with gay guys or something like that. You know what I mean? I think it's. Especially if I'm not there. I don't know. Also when you're like married with a family and you Go to like celebrate, like you better bring me and vice versa, like I would bring you. I'm not gonna go out and like celebrate without you. You know what I mean? I don't know.

[Darian]

No, I don't believe any of it. I mean there he was cheating at the company, at work with a work. With an employee. So everyone knew at work.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Keith doing too much is making me side eye this whole thing where I'm doing just like if you said nothing, wouldn't have known, wouldn't have cared because that video came out. I was like, yeah, Ned's a cheater. That would make sense. He probably is just, you know, nefarious with everyone. Did I use that right? Is it nefarious? You said nefarious earlier.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, also, again, this is alleged,

[Darian]

but

[Moses Hacmon]

as Spillsh did find like a Reddit thread from five years ago. So I guess when was that? That was like 2021. So this predated the affair where someone on Reddit did like a. I, I was at a party and the try guys where they asked me anything or whatever and then this person said, I met them all at a bar once. This the one whose whole shtick is I love my wife and kids, was insanely creepy and tried to hook up with my friend. And then someone asked them, was your friend he tried to hook up with a guy or girl? Like what did he try to do? And they responded, a girl, poor girl. Kept trying to dance and have a good time, time. But I. But he kept going behind her, trying to kiss her neck and get her to grind on him. She kept moving, but he was pretty persistent. Offered her to go to their hotel and also tried giving us backstage tickets to their shows the next day. The whole rest of the night I tried to rack my brain about what the f they do at their shows and who would pay for that. Also asked the guy with glasses if he's always that sloppy and he reluctantly said yes, yes, they're all alleged.

[Trisha Paytas]

Allegedly.

[Moses Hacmon]

You knew Keith, but this was 2021. So again, this predated everything coming out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they must have maybe known about this and yeah, at least known

[Moses Hacmon]

he was like too much. Maybe not like a whole full blown affair, but knew that he was doing

[Trisha Paytas]

too much and you're probably trying to protect your brand. You're like, oh God, this guy, okay, he's a liability, but we have this big thing we built up or whatever, he's going to keep it cool with us, whatever. But like now defending again, you're. You've already, you're Already separated. You're already. You don't need to. If anything, you're bringing more relevance to him. You know what I mean? It's just like, so, so weird, but also makes me look at you, Sus.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not fine that you know, but you might have known.

[Darian]

They toured as a group.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What did they do on tour? Back to that. They try stuff on stage. Try Diet Cokes from different fast food chains. You ever see that Challenge. I can taste what diet. Oh, that's McDonald's. That's how the. You know that. Like Duggets. I get. Diet Cokes are crazy. Diet Coke has got a Diet Coke, but. Yeah. What are they touring? I would love to see their tour.

[Darian]

I sold out. Like, he was. They knew and he was doing that all along with touring and doing all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That will bring out the sneaky snake in you.

[Moses Hacmon]

The Try guys. Legend of the Internet tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. That's a awful title.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're doing comedy. They're doing comedy. Spectacle and friendship. Oh, and they're per. They're singing. They're wearing onesies. It says they advertise Ned doing dad stuff. Interesting. Interesting. Oh, Eugene looking hot. I do believe that Zach being cute and Keith eating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably Zach being cute's crazy. I would only sign up for maybe Keith eating. But now that I know this about Keith, I don't know. That's. That's crazy. So Keith's just, like, trying every menu at Chili's for the first time. Like, that's what he's doing. I love it. Like I said, 2020 is all about giving nothing and being rewarded for it. I like it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I would love to meet a fan of to Trying Try guys. I would love to see. They're kind of giving Maroon 5 where, like, is there a fan? I don't know. I've never met one.

[Moses Hacmon]

People really live from the Try guys. I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, good. You know, Love that. Until they started, like, making everyone pay for their videos after the scandal. It's like, actually.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. When they went to, like, a paint. Yeah. Again, for the record, Keith says a lot of people seem to think that we knew this was happening before it was. We didn't. It really sucked for us too. Again, that's. That's what Keith says for journalistic purposes.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right.

[Moses Hacmon]

He refuses allegations.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're doing too much. But my opinion, that is the worst. I will always stand by. I think this one needs to hold. I think he'll agree that cancellation should Hold. He's tried everything and I can mend him for it, but it's time to stop.

[Moses Hacmon]

Try stopping.

[Trisha Paytas]

Try nothing. Try just not talking. Just existing. Just exist. Live a peaceful life as a chemist.

[Moses Hacmon]

Be a normie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be a normie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I mean in a bad way.

[Moses Hacmon]

Negatively.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, negatively. That's it, guys. That is it. We have had so many ups and downs. There was a lot. Feels like a roller coaster sometimes when we're done with the episode. But we give it our all. Because I get sad. I get sad after today. I get happy because I have my five day weekend, which I love because I go hard Monday through Wednesday and I'll keep going after this. But I'm sad because I look forward to this. Even on the weekends. Like I love our weekends. We have a very busy weekend. Plan ahead. We're finally getting in the house, kids are feeling better. Oh, can't wait. But I weirdly get sad that I'm not dishing with Oscar.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. We go so many days, we do

[Trisha Paytas]

go again a long time and so much can happen in those days.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like four or five. Four days, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Five day for my five day weekend. Thursday, Friday.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, four days.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, four. Four, technically. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Five sleeps.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, right, Yeah, I count sleeps.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Okay. Work. That's a good way to.

[Darian]

Five nights without you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Five nights of that.

[Darian]

Oscar,

[Trisha Paytas]

I miss you all the time.

[Moses Hacmon]

Five nights. Not at Trish's.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's a good one. That's the.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's a horror story for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Five nights at Trisha, not five nights.

[Darian]

Not at Trish's. Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me when I was in New York, I was like, oh, bye. All right you guys, that's it. What would you do? Five nights without Trisha? Is it a horror comedy or romance?

[Darian]

When you were on tour, five nights was that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's longest. No, five nights.

[Moses Hacmon]

Four nights.

[Darian]

Maybe full week. Almost. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Five nights without me. How's it feel?

[Darian]

It's tough. It's kind of like a dream. Yeah, it's like I don't think I

[Trisha Paytas]

can go five nights anymore without.

[Darian]

Cuz the thing is that you're kind of like the only dream. You're kind of the only adult person to watch TV with. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see.

[Darian]

Basically it's five nights of kids entertainment shows and that's like nights at Fred. Three year old. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Now it might be easier because Malibu is getting more like conversationalist. But yeah, back in the day it was just little kids everywhere. I don't think I could leave Elvis because Elvis can't sleep without me. She always needs to fall asleep on me, and I don't know if I could. I think about that last night, too. And she always finds her way back to me if she can't find some. Guess everyone will have to come with me next door. All right, you guys. Thousand Oaks. I'll always be here. I'll always be here at Trishma's time. I love you guys. Good luck. Good luck with your big go to Patreon and figure out what Oscar's big adventure is. And good luck with you. Good luck.

[Darian]

What am I doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I have a big weekend coming up. Fun. All fun stuff. And good luck, Charlie. Good luck, Charlie. And good luck to everybody out there. Except you, Ned Fulmore. I wish him well, but not luck. That's for sure. Your luck has run out. We love you, thanks for being here and we'll see you real soon. Goodbye and good luck. That's a movie. George Clooney. Good night and good luck. You don't remember, he'd always said at the end in the show he was a TV presenter. He's like, good night and good luck.

[Moses Hacmon]

Never heard of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Quite young. Sometimes I was thinking, just like, I'm so young, I just don't know Skid Row. Although skidding. Skid Row was before me.

[Moses Hacmon]

And that's your outro. I love Skid Row.

[Trisha Paytas]

No one. No one remember. I don't think anyone remembers Skid Row,

[Darian]

but if I hear a song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, why just say you too.

[Darian]

I want to hear his voice.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did a pretty good. All right, Love you guys. Oh, I should do the podcast like this. I feel so skinny. Okay, goodbye. We gotta do another physical fitness one for Patreon. Even here for now. We can do another one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we should.

[Trisha Paytas]

What would we do? Guess we can figure it out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we should do like a hike.

[Darian]

We should go on a hike after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's just like, oh, people die on a hike. The killer's there.

[Darian]

We go hike alone, but together.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute.

[Darian]

We'll be fending off wild animals.

[Moses Hacmon]

We should just go on a hike

[Trisha Paytas]

and see what we feel. We feel great every time we walk. We don't necessarily hike, but we will walk like a mile together. And then morning, specifically on Thursdays. For some reason, that's kind of enlighten you. It opens you up. You feel just happy and light. We always have deep conversations, literally.

[Darian]

But it's the outdoors, all right. Sun and the fresh air.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been wanting to do that for my health and wellness vlog so we can do a double. Okay, we'll find out. There's hiking trails around here. Britney Spears. Close to them. People have seen her. My sister's seen her. Love you guys. We'll see you real soon. Bye.

[Darian]

Yeah, we're still going.

[Trisha Paytas]

You told me you're natural.