Nikocado Avocado EXPOSES Stephanie Soo & Kayla Malec Clocks James Charles AGAIN?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just Trish – "Nikocado Avocado EXPOSES Stephanie Soo & Kayla Malec Clocks James Charles AGAIN?"

Release Date: June 26, 2025

In this episode of "Just Trish," host Trisha Paytas engages in a dynamic and multifaceted conversation with her co-host Oscar Gracey and guest Moses Hacmon. The episode navigates through various topics, predominantly focusing on recent internet dramas involving prominent YouTubers and celebrities, while also delving into personal anecdotes, relationship insights, and pop culture discussions.

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1. Internet Drama and Public Perception

The primary focus of the episode revolves around recent controversies involving Nikocado Avocado, Stephanie Soo, Kayla Malec, and James Charles. Trisha expresses her frustrations and confusion over ongoing accusations and manipulations within these online relationships.

• Trisha on David Dobrik’s Lack of Mention:

  [00:00] "When I did the tour, no one's bringing up David Dobrik. You know what I mean? Like, except for me."

• Discussion on Accusations Against Stephanie Soo:

  [12:46] "I have a soft spot for Nakato because I know Nakato. I don’t know Stephanie stuff. I have a soft spot for him."

• Trisha Defends Remy Ashton:

  [12:46] "I love Remy. Like, I think I, like, love her too much. She's my favorite and kind of Shane, I have like a hate love would love, hate love, hate thing."

2. Personal Relationships and Anniversaries

Trisha and Oscar share heartfelt moments discussing their relationship milestones, anniversaries, and the importance of stability amidst their busy lives.

• Oscar on Anniversary Surprise:

  [01:12] "Shout out, Darian. It was our anniversary yesterday, and he drove an hour and a half to get Maggiano's... It was the sweetest gesture ever."

• Trisha on Love and Stability:

  [05:48] "It goes a long way to have a constant in my life. Mentally, it's been helping me for the past five years."

3. Culinary Adventures and Favorite Spots

The trio dives into their favorite restaurants and dishes, reminiscing about cherished culinary experiences and planning future outings.

• Trisha’s Love for Lobster Mac and Cheese:

  [02:07] "I would pay any amount of money to have that delivered. That's insane."

• Oscar’s Nostalgic Trips to Costa Mesa:

  [03:09] "It's a little bit of nostalgia... it was just always for every birthday or, like, holiday."

4. Movie Discussions and Upcoming Releases

A significant portion of the podcast is dedicated to discussing current and upcoming movies, particularly focusing on the "Jurassic World" franchise and the "Fantastic Four" movie.

• Oscar’s Early Impression of "Jurassic World":

  [22:31] "I really enjoyed it. I really liked it."

• Trisha’s Excitement for "Fantastic Four":

  [50:16] "I think I'll be in the next Jurassic World. I would love to see her in a movie like that."

• Debate on Movie Billing and Production Houses:

  [25:00] "I think Scarlett is top billing. I mean, she is, like, the queen of blockbusters."

5. Navigating Fame and Public Image

Trisha opens up about the challenges of being in the public eye, dealing with unsolicited comments, and the impact of fame on personal well-being.

• Trisha on Handling Unwanted Attention:

  [07:16] "I was rocking out in trying to bug him, but we're here."

• Oscar’s Support on Mental Health:

  [14:19] "We are here to help my fellow trolls."

6. Reflections on Past Conflicts and Growth

The conversation shifts towards past conflicts, particularly highlighting Trisha’s experiences with internet dramas and her growth over the years.

• Trisha on Ghosting Nikocado Avocado:

  [131:03] "I was a little like, you know, I ghosted him. But I was kind of like, I don't know, whatever."

• Oscar’s Perspective on Manipulative Behaviors:

  [135:52] "He said, we both knew that this would be the best thing for our careers."

7. Pop Culture and Social Media Trends

Trisha and Oscar explore various social media trends, influencer dynamics, and the evolving landscape of online fame.

• Trisha’s Take on Remy Ashton’s Influence:

  [13:18] "Remy, I love you. Her and Alicia are too unproblematic for us."

• Discussion on 'Call Her Daddy' Podcast Split:

  [129:21] "And Nikocado has revisited this, which I'm surprised."

8. Personal Well-being and Support Systems

Towards the end, Trisha shares her struggles with self-image and anxiety, while Moses provides reassurance and emphasizes the importance of support systems.

• Trisha on Feeling Unbeautiful During Pregnancy:

  [70:11] "I just like can't interact with people. I'm very like Nervous all the time."

• Moses’ Reassurance:

  [70:54] "They are so cute whenever like if we walk in, wherever we see people, fans, their first reaction is like, wow, it's so pretty in real life."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The episode concludes with Trisha encouraging listeners to subscribe to their Patreon for extended content and expressing gratitude towards their supporters.

• Trisha’s Closing Remarks:

  [165:24] "We love you guys, and we'll see you in the next one. Have a good weekend. It gets better. If you're feeling sad right now, it'll get better."

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Notable Quotes:

1. Trisha on Personal Struggles:

   "[70:11] I just like can't interact with people. I'm very like Nervous all the time."

2. Oscar on Manipulation in Internet Drama:

   "[135:52] He said, we both knew that this would be the best thing for our careers."

3. Trisha on Remy Ashton’s Influence:

   "[13:18] Remy, I love you. Her and Alicia are too unproblematic for us."

4. Trisha’s Desire for Genuine Connections:

   "[82:46] I love Amanda. Amanda, please."

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Key Insights:

• Impact of Online Drama: The episode highlights how internet feuds can resurface years later, affecting the mental health and public perception of those involved.

• Importance of Stability: Trisha underscores the significance of having a stable relationship amidst the chaos of public life and personal challenges.

• Navigating Fame: The discussion delves into the pressures of maintaining a public image, handling unsolicited attention, and the fine line between personal well-being and public persona.

• Growth Through Challenges: Both Trisha and Oscar reflect on their past conflicts, emphasizing personal growth and learning from difficult experiences.

• Support Systems Matter: Moses plays a crucial role in providing emotional support, illustrating the importance of having reliable people to lean on during tough times.

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Conclusion:

This episode of "Just Trish" offers listeners a blend of personal narratives, insightful discussions on internet fame, and candid reflections on past and present dramas in the influencer community. Trisha Paytas and her co-hosts navigate through complex emotions and societal expectations, providing a relatable and engaging dialogue for their audience.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

When I did the tour, no one's bringing up David Dobrik. You know what I mean? Like, except for me. I was like, I need to stop bringing him up because no one cares. So I think this might be in his head. More so because I'm like, I don't think that's happening. But. But no one was accusing her of doing anything illegal. What is she even talking about? They're like, you're just dumb. Like, that's so different.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, a lot of people that watch us, they're pregnant too, and they're like, you know, they don't want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's beautiful. For the first 36 weeks, the last four weeks, just warning everybody, be prepared to feel not beautif. Her name is. Welcome to the Gestures podcast, also known as. What are we eating today?

[Oscar]

Oh, is that the question?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's our podcast. I'm starving. I'm starving. I just, like, ate two cookies really fast.

[Oscar]

Oh, really? I honestly reheated your nachos. I had a little bit of leftover pasta this morning. Breakfast. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

From where? I'm so jealous.

[Oscar]

Well, shout out, Darian. It was our anniversary yesterday, and he drove an hour and a half to get Maggiano's, which is like our go to place for every occasion in my whole childhood. But the one near us closed down. It's gone. It's gone. And the closest one is an hour and a half away. So he just decided to drive down and surprise me, which was, like, the best surprise ever. It was very Moses coded. I think it was, like, surprising me.

[Trisha Paytas]

With pasta an hour half away.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's great. What. Where did you go to?

[Oscar]

What area he went to? It's in Costa Mesa, so, like, Orange County. That's the closest.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like three hours.

[Oscar]

He did his big one. That was a big. Such a good gift. Obviously, he also knows I've been going through it, so it was like a little bit of everything, I think, but it was, like, the sweetest gesture ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I went to Capital Girl and got the lobster Mac and cheese. I would pay any amount of money to have that delivered. That's insane.

[Oscar]

I know. It was so sweet. It was such a little surprise, too. I was. I was very shocked because usually he's. He can't contain his excitement when he gets a surprise because he got. He also got me, like, this labubu from, like, Thailand, but he showed me as soon as he got it, like, as soon as he ordered it, so I was so excited for it. But he, like, you know, the surprise was. Was foiled. But this one, yeah, he really kept it under the. Under the radar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you, that's the best surprise in the whole. Truly.

[Oscar]

Oh, my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was crazy.

[Oscar]

So guy. I couldn't even believe it. I was, like, so shocked, my jaw dropped. It was the best gift ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's insane. Moses surprised me like, Benny Han or Souls to Be or something.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd be like. Or Capitol Girl, which is down there. I would have been like, wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

And, well, when you landed at the airport, I picked you up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did. You did take me. You did take me to Benihana. I was shook. I was like, we're going to Benihana. Because that's like pulling teeth. I've been trying to get to Benihana before I give birth, and we just don't have any time. Moses said so I'm like, okay. Olive Garden it is again. Love Maggiano's, by the way, but that is a very random pasta place.

[Oscar]

It's a little bit of nostalgia, I think, because it was just like always for every birthday or, like, holiday or anything, my family would take me. That was, like, our fancy little restaurant.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I love mahjong. What'd you get?

[Oscar]

We got chicken parmesan, spaghetti, meatballs. My favorite dish ever is the fried zucchini.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. We never gotta try it.

[Oscar]

We never gotta try it before it shut down, which is the biggest tragedy of all. But I guess we always go to Costa Mesa.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to do, like, an overnight Costa Mesa trip because there's. The Lububu Cafe is close to there.

[Oscar]

Oh, T. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Capital Grill, my favorite's down there. I have to take you there. I would love to try the Maggiano's down there. The Javier's is better in Newport. Like, I feel like Orange county really does have the food.

[Oscar]

That's true. I forgot about, like, the. They have a lot of specialty little cafes. I think the hello Kitty Cafes, they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have one in that area.

[Moses Hacmon]

We took Malibu there.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, man, there's so many good places. Oh, God, I want to go to Orange county now. That sounds delicious. You had that this morning. I'm so jealous.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I had some leftovers this morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you're, like, chilling. You're good.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. I'm really feeling. I really felt like you, to be honest. I was like, this is the secret to life. Just a little bit of pasta in the morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wanted to make big ziti last night, but I was kind of full. Oh, we went to Olive Garden yesterday, so I want to make big Z last night in anticipation for today. I thought before I'd have some big ziti and warm it up. It didn't happen, but. All right. Well, man, maybe we gotta order some pasta or something today. That sounds so good. Wow. Nothing sounds good. Like, my mouth tastes like metal, but I'm hungry all the time. But then when I eat something, I'm like, oh, everything tastes gross. But that sounds. Oh, that sounds. Wait, so do you have, like, five anniversaries? Because, like.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

May was an anniversary.

[Oscar]

We have, like, our. The first time we started, like, talking was March, and then we. We went official June 24, I guess. But really, we were kind of dating that whole time. Anyway, we just, like, made it official June 24, and then it's kind of sandwiched because it's like, his birthday is in April, and then he had his graduation, and then our anniversary, then it's my birthday, so there's just a lot. But we kind of combine all of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whale trip you did in May, you did, like, last year, you did a wheelchair. Wasn't that your anniversary trip?

[Oscar]

It was. Yeah. It was close. Ish. So, yeah. And also, it was like, the last day of killer whale season. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a nice combination.

[Trisha Paytas]

June. So June of 2020 was. Your eyes. Is official.

[Oscar]

Official, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's before us. Our official was August 1st of 2020, because we met March, too. But our official. Definitely ours had to be official because that summer we were not dating. But so. Yeah. So technically. Well, we've been together, like, the same time.

[Oscar]

That's. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I love happy, stable relationship stability. Whenever I take meetings or anything or when people ask me, like, what do you think's changed? I'm like, honestly, just having a little stability in my life. That helps.

[Oscar]

It goes a long way.

[Trisha Paytas]

It goes a long way to have, like, a constant in my life. Not everyone finds it in a relationship. It's fine. Whatever. You Is your constant. But just having a constant is great. Mentally, it's been helping me for the past five years. Well, congrats on five years. No proposal?

[Oscar]

No, not yet. I'm sure soon it's over now you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can'T say when school's over. I thought maybe it would have happened at your anniversary. Well, you've been going through a lot.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not the time.

[Moses Hacmon]

Mix up those things.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Fresh memories.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Oh, my God. That's, like, actually the sweetest thing, though. That's crazy, because, like, Also, what time did he go down?

[Oscar]

I guess he went in the, like around. He went like around noon, I think, because he got back around like four.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. It's like a three hour drive. Like. Yeah, Round trip is probably like four hours to get down there because he had a.

[Oscar]

He made a pit stop at ucla. He had to, like, drop off his cap and gown. So he had. Yeah, he had.

[Trisha Paytas]

With the P in the car.

[Oscar]

No, it was pre pasta.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I always get nervous when people pick up my food and then they stop along the way. I'm like, let's just get that home. And we used to do that before we had kids. Like, we used to always drive down to, like, Costa. We used to go to Portillo's in Orange County. We would drive like two hours. And then like, Costa Mesa was the other one we'd always go to for Capital Grill. And it is. It is worth it.

[Moses Hacmon]

We drive all the way down there for a smoothie.

[Trisha Paytas]

One time we did tropical smoothies.

[Moses Hacmon]

We would really travel all over for this smallest thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I loved it. Those were fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

We just loved being together in the car and drive for a long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was during quarantine too. So we're like, well, let's go drive two hours to get a smoothie.

[Oscar]

I hate to drive these days, to be honest. He is a newish driver. Like, I think he's only been driving for like, officially a year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he. He was a public transportation king for a long time. And then. So I think he still has that, like, freedom of driving. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And go places.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were like, driving. I like driving when I can. I do like driving if there's like a minute to do it. It's just like, I feel like driving. There's no distractions. Like, you really just have to focus on driving. And so it's just like you can't be on TikTok. You know what I mean? Like, it just. I don't know. I need stuff like that because otherwise I'm just on TikTok all the time. So I think, yeah, I like a good drive. Oh, I love that. That makes me so happy. Okay, well, good. I'm glad one of us got a good meal this morning because I usually do eat. I was gonna get the little Cheerios.

[Oscar]

You Instagrammed some Cheerios. I thought you were eating Cheerios.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that doesn't count. That was at 6:00 o' clock a.m. and that was all I had beside those two cookies. For real. And a frappuccino but that was for digestion.

[Moses Hacmon]

When you wake up at 6 o' clock, like, now it's time for lunch.

[Oscar]

I do feel you on that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Yeah, I was. I did. I did have a bowl of Cheers, but that was it. I didn't even have toast this morning because I was running late. I showered. Usually I showered at night. Showered this morning, so I was, like, running late. And then I had the frappuccino for digestion, but then I had an unexpected phone call at 9:45. And then you said you were running a little late, so I was like, oh, we have plenty of time. And then I look and I'm like, oh, my God. I haven't gone to the bathroom. I haven't gotten dressed. Whenever someone says that, you like, 15 minutes. But even when someone's like, oh, I'm 15, I'm like, perfect. I have, like, lots of time. And then I just, like, sit around and, like, don't get stuff done. And I was like, okay, I just need to be on it. But we're here. Well, I'm glad. Are you. You look great. You look so cute. You look so different. I know it's like no hat, but, like, what else? Stressed.

[Oscar]

I was gonna say that. I mean, I was gonna. I was trying to avoid bringing this up, but this is an outfit that Shane Dawson has just worn in a video. I just could. I literally had no other shirts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

And I. I've been putting this one off because I saw Shane wear it just because we have too many comparisons.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is this from Matt Cafe?

[Oscar]

And I'm scared. And I already, like, avoided him at the. At an outdoor mall. So I'm like. I feel like I'm gonna literally get a cease and desist from Shane Dawson any second.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too.

[Oscar]

I apologize. It's just pure coincidence.

[Trisha Paytas]

The mouthing like him. Yeah, you did the little hand over the mouth.

[Oscar]

I got, like, I got this before I saw him wear it. Like, I just have had it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can we do a side by side? Is there. Is there a video footage of it? You are the shame.

[Oscar]

I think it was in the Kitty in the Katie Morton podcast too. And he had the same, like, you know, mic stand situation. So I. I fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Run it. Run it with the hand and everything. You are doing our Patreon? Maybe we're doing our Patreon today. That. Yeah. Oh, my God, that's crazy. You are giving. Maybe that's what it was. I was like, you look. So before we started, I was about to compliment me because I was rushing down here. I was eating my cookie, and then I look. I was like, wow, you look so good. I'm like, let me save it for the podcast. And I was like, that's what it is.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. You are. Is it Abercrombie?

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's Abercrombie. We both do. You love an Abercrombie. Although he. This kind of snug. He got to keep his buttoned up, but it's a little tight maybe to.

[Trisha Paytas]

See the size up or something. We don't know what size he's wearing. Maybe he's wearing a double X. I.

[Oscar]

Think he's wearing a small.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Yeah. He is tiny king these days.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't send us a season. I was saying that too. I was like, you always talk about Shane. I was. I. I already saw on Tick Tock this morning and had a lot of. Had a lot of likes. Had like 11, 000 likes. Me. All the Remy Ashton fans coming for me thinking I am a hater on her.

[Oscar]

No, you love. She's like your number one influencer.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I comment. I'm like, before they delete my comment and the account doesn't get any views, but this one happened to get, like 200,000 views. And it was like, so out of context. It was like a clip of me being like, oh, I don't know. I don't hate Lana Del Worry, but I don't love her. And then I said something like, it probably was 500,000 for the wedding sponsored by Domino's because she's eating Domino's Raptor. And that's it. That's where it cuts off. But it didn't. The joke is, you guys. Here's the gag. It's like, obviously it's a joke. I'm salty that Domino's doesn't sponsor me, and she gets 5,000 dominoes. And I love that for her. I think she's a queen. In fact, I keep ordering Domino's because of her, because of the stuffed crust. I was like, I'll keep ordering it. I love Remy Ashton so much. She's my number one. And all the comments were like, wow, Trisha's a hater. Back to her way. It bothers me.

[Oscar]

So shocking to me because literally, I feel like there could be a compilation how much we talk about how much we love Remy and Alicia.

[Trisha Paytas]

You.

[Oscar]

The number one influencer you would want to be is Remy, and the number one I'd want to be is Alicia. Like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

We want to be them. And that's why we're so mad and jealous of Zane and Heath. Because we're like, how did they get that position?

[Oscar]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, we could have been just pretty, you know, something. And it's just so. It's love them, love them.

[Oscar]

I'm so gagged by that. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

It really hurt me today. I was like, usually I don't like to, like, defend myself for every little thing. The vegetable gate. And then we had them. But the Mr. On reaction is where I had to draw a line. It's like, y' all, I love her. It's always like a little joke about the domino sponsor, but I love her more than anything. I thought her wedding was. Yeah. Jealous. I wasn't there. Jealous of my wedding. Jealous of all of it. The Labu boos of it all. She looks great and happy. I love Remy. Like, I think I, like, love her too much. She's my favorite and kind of Shane, I have like a hate love would love, hate love, hate thing. Like, there's some nostalgia. Well, we've been reacting to so many old things where I'm kind of like, oh, like the times. Obviously, things have changed. People have changed. But I do have a little. Yeah, if I talk about someone, that means I have love for them, you know, like, if I don't love someone, I'm not going to talk about them. I don't hate them. But I. Well, there are people I hate that I don't talk about. But Moses will say that you have to love everybody. But whatever. Anyways, I love. No rummy ash and slander here. I hated seeing that on there. Everyone's. Oh, not too much on our girl R. Never.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, we were just covering the wedding as it's, you know, it's an important wedding and we give.

[Trisha Paytas]

We said royal wedding. Most important. A lot of people were guessing. It's a million dollars. Honestly, I kind of agree. When you think about, like, the ring and it's like, yeah. And the. The events leading up to.

[Oscar]

Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

We started at 500, then we counted everything else.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's not shade. That's I'm jealous.

[Oscar]

Kudos moments.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, wait till Trisha finds out they actually had dominoes at the wedding.

[Oscar]

I did end up seeing it. Yeah. I saw it after, as in one of Remy's tiktoks or reels or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

But now I want Domino's because we're talking about Remy and Dom. She. She inspires me to buy Domino's. Like, I swear, like, I love Domino's and I've been Always.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because there's a new trend and you have to keep to the trend.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the trend?

[Moses Hacmon]

This is people that go to Domino's and don't order until they give you a sponsorship.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Not going into the Domino's until Trisha Paytas has a sponsorship.

[Oscar]

Love this movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yesterday. So I won't be.

[Moses Hacmon]

So people are going.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're going.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're going there, but they're not ordering.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like showing up torn because Remy is sponsored and we gotta keep that sponsorship going. I love it. Like I said, it's. It's literally a joke at this point because I'm not obviously mad about it. I'm not gonna get Domino's sponsor because Remy has one. That's not. Not at all. I love it. I want her to keep getting them like every week. Cause it just. It actually makes me giggle. People tag me. It's like a joke at this point, which is obviously like a funny joke. I hope Remy thinks it's funny. Remy, I love you. Her and Alicia are too unproblematic for us. I would love you here. I'm always scared to reach out to them. They're just like so perfect and great. And yes, we do riff on Zane and Heath. Is that what it's called? Riff or rip? We rip on them. They maybe they've changed and grown. Don't really care, but love them. Love Alicia and Remy and. Yeah, and I, yeah, I love both of them. But Remy, I've always related to, obviously, because she's talked about her weight and stuff like that and she looks amazing. But I was related to her and liked her even though she's younger than me. She inspires me and influences me in every way. And she's the queen of my life. Honestly, she's probably my number one influencer.

[Oscar]

Yeah. That's why I'm literally. I can't even process that because I feel like every episode we say number one influencer deserves all the brand deals because she influenced. Influences us to do literally everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything.

[Oscar]

We are just like Lana Del Rey. That's what we have in common with Lana Del Rey. We are influenced by Remy and Alicia and Ali.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we talk about King Queen Olivet. Like, I. I know. It broke my heart. It literally broke my heart. I was like, oh, man, the way people take things out of context. And it's like, yeah, sometimes it can be a hater, but never on Ms. Remy Ashton. Anyways, so we're clean the air there. And yes, Shane. Everyone's like, you talk about Shane all nights Like. Well, because they said we talk about him so much, we manifested you seeing him. And that's probably true.

[Oscar]

But also, we live in the same general area.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gone up to him. I think he would like you. You didn't do him wrong. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially if you were wearing this gag.

[Oscar]

And I do have the Labubu he wants. He. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one do you have?

[Oscar]

Remember I sent. You didn't. Did I send it to you? I sent it to me. Oh, maybe I sent it to Jimmy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one?

[Oscar]

He went into a pop Mart wanting this laboo. The one with the glasses. The. It's the one that has a button up shirt, jeans and glasses.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't think you sent it to me.

[Oscar]

Oh, maybe I sent. Anyway, he wanted it. Yeah. He tried to buy it. He didn't. He didn't know how you can't go into Palm Mart and buy the boo Boo, but. Oh, he.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he didn't know you had to like, unbox it or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like buy it online and all that. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but we went into popcorn. There was no Labubu, period.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bless his heart.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I love a little millennial like that. That's definitely me. That's only me going in thinking you could just like, go in line buying, like the hottest thing in the world. Just be like, oh, I'm just. Where is this? And they just like, laugh at you. Like, what the hell? Like, no, you can't do that. Oh, my God. I really. I see a world. You guys could be friends.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Oh, I love it. I love the story of you seeing him. It, like, gave me this. I don't know. I love this. It's giving me nostalgia. I love it so much. And Remy, too. Trust me, you'll know. If I'm being shady or hater, you'll know.

[Oscar]

I know. It's pretty obvious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We have a whole on our Patreon. Patreon.com. trish. We rate our enemies of the show.

[Oscar]

Me. Ash is nowhere to be from.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she's number one of the show. Like, there's no one more number one than her of this show. She's everything and I love her. And please come on the podcast. I love you. You'd be helping us. I'd be doing our charity work. So thank you. Yes. Who was our number one enemy? Who did end up being. Do we have. Spoiler alert? Was it James or Colleen?

[Oscar]

I think it was Colleen and then James. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boiled down to.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Offenses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Some offenses. Well, I got a great show for you guys today. Hot Topics are hotter than ever. Like, where's my card? Where's my note? Hot topics are hotter than ever.

[Oscar]

I am so curious what you wrote on your card today.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have nothing. I have it all in here in my head. I just had Jonathan Bailey kissing Scarlett Johansson again. Again, Right after we filmed it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, another kiss?

[Oscar]

Yes. On the lips in New York.

[Moses Hacmon]

New York?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, at this point, yes. But their faces are a little more comical in this one. The first one you could tell was with passion. This one is obviously them trying to create a stir. You know, being like this one, they're.

[Oscar]

Kind of more in on the. On the joke, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he responded to it, too, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah, he did an interview with Entertainment Ton night. He said, who did it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who did it? Denny?

[Oscar]

No, it was a guest correspondent.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do I get to be a guest correspondent? I never get any connections to Entertainment Tonight through you.

[Oscar]

I'm on a leave of absence, so I. I can't answer that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, okay, okay. Damn. I need to get on there. Okay.

[Oscar]

He said he is the luckiest guy to have been greeted with a kiss by Scarlett Johansson. He said, I believe in being able to show love in all different ways. And if you can't kiss your friends, well, life's too short not to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Oscar]

He said, scarlett is amazing, and the people that you meet along the way make extraordinary experiences even better. It's been amazing to get back together and to celebrate all the experiences we had together on screen. Scarlett's just endlessly fun, hilarious, sensitive, and intelligent.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the longest answer to that question. Oh, my gosh. That's so extra. We're all just like, what do you think about the kiss? Thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring today's episode. All right, let's spill the real tea. Here's a dirty little secret the insurance companies do not want you to know. Insurance companies make money by holding onto your money. So after an accident, they'll delay, deny, drag things out. Also, they can keep stacking those profits while you're stuck waiting. Morgan. Morgan fights hard against these corporations to fight to make sure you get every dollar you deserve. Now, this part's actually wild in court. Insurance companies love to act like the driver is the one paying the verdict. But the truth, it's almost always the insurance company writing the check, not the person behind the wheel. One client in Pennsylvan offered $500,000. Morgan. And Morgan said, try again, and got them $29 million. Another client in Florida was offered zero and walked away with $20 million. That's not just lawyering. That's main character energy. There's a reason why Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury firm. Hiring the wrong firm can be disastrous. Hiring the right firm could substantially increase your settlement. With Morgan and Morgan, it's easy to get started and their fee is free unless they win. Just click the link in the description below or Visit for the people.com Trish that's f o r the people.com Trish or click the link in the description below. This is a paid advertisement. Thank you so much, Morgan Morgan, for sponsoring today's episode. All right, so he was loving it.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And Colin Joseph was at this premiere. It was the New York premiere. For this. For this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because everybody was talking.

[Oscar]

He's like, hands off.

[Trisha Paytas]

They kind of look like each other, right?

[Oscar]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

Scott Johansson and Colin Jost more than Jonathan Bailey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, I think they look so much like each other.

[Moses Hacmon]

Some similar. I can see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, thanks.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sibling Jonathan Bailey was everywhere. Because also at the Megan premiere you sent me.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was that at the Megan premiere? Right, with the two Megan dolls?

[Oscar]

I. I think so. Well, the Megan premiere was in New York. Jurassic World premiere was in New York. They're both Universal, so somehow there was little Megan Jonathan Bailey crossover.

[Trisha Paytas]

The dance was the Britney Spears one from the New York prem. That's why I was like, wait, did he just hop on over?

[Oscar]

It must be because they. I think they were a day apart. I think Monday was. Monday was Jurassic World.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tuesday was Megan like. And how did that. How do you think that goes? Do you think they're just like, oh, come cross promoter? Or he's like, oh, I want to go.

[Oscar]

Maybe a cross promotion synergy kind of thing. Just me guessing. Just based off of, like, how companies usually do, like, the. They're all about synergy. That's. We.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is synergy?

[Oscar]

Like, all the pieces, parts of the brands working together to, like, promote different.

[Trisha Paytas]

It gives very. It ends with us. Deadpool, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah. That was more Blake Lively. Ryan Reynolds. This is at least more like the Universal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one do you think is more forced?

[Oscar]

Probably Blake and Ryan. Universal is like, because if it's in the same company, it's kind of, like, expected and it's like, kind of contractual, too. It's like, you know. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They just needed, like, Wicked to happen so they could all, like, honestly.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like, if it was Wicked and Jurassic World, there would be a lot going on. On.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That would have been so cool. I liked him with the Megan dolls. I thought that was cool. I like the cross promotion. I wish I was invited.

[Oscar]

I was gonna say you're just like, one degree of separation. Truly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I'm hashtag universal partner at this point.

[Oscar]

I'm just claiming that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, definitely not. It's the. And it's the funniest thing, too. Even the Megan interview, like we said on the podcast, like, months ago, it's like, they really just randomly emailed me, like, you want to come to the premiere? I'm like, is this real? Like, why are you just randomly emailing, like, this random email? We love them. I wish I was there. I wish I was invited to Jurassic because a lot of influencers went to. Was it Jurassic World? Is that what it's called?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Jurassic World, Rebirth. I didn' I guess I kind of been out of the loop. But I did see the movie, but I didn't see the premiere stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you did get to see it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I saw the early screening of AMC or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

So was the surprise movie.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah. The intel was correct.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how did you like it? Early review.

[Oscar]

I'm so scared to give my opinion because it's hard to be one of the first because, like, the. The press reviews haven't come out yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

And I'm afraid I'm gonna look stupid. But I really enjoyed it. I really liked it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's good.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And also, Darian is very hard to please when it comes to mo and he also enjoyed it. And he hasn't. He said that he has not enjoyed a single movie he's seen this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You see a lot of movies.

[Oscar]

I know this is the first one.

[Trisha Paytas]

He said he's like, oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

So I feel like that's a good barometer. Jonathan Bailey. And this is not even me, like, glazing him because of where we're at right now at just Trish Enterprises. But he is, like, the heart and soul of the movie. He is so lovable, so good in it. Him and Scarlett do have pretty good chemistry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Oh, I love a dress.

[Oscar]

They have, like, a flirt. A flirt. Mance going on. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sign me up. We gotta go this weekend. This is one movie I definitely need.

[Oscar]

To see right now, so. And, like, he's just has a nice tan. He has a little glasses. He's like, oh, you like scientists?

[Trisha Paytas]

A little controversial. The tan. Some people didn't like the tan in the movie. Yeah, they said it was a little.

[Oscar]

Too tan, I think of the color. I. I Think it's the color grading. There's been so many movies without, like, color, so to finally have a movie that had a little life to it, I was like, it's nice to look at.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so maybe it was like. Like, what is that called? Like, the great. What is it called?

[Oscar]

Saturation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Saturation when you do it on your phone.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Give you a little orangeiness. Yeah. But you liked it.

[Oscar]

I liked it because it just popped. Like, the green. It was all lush, like it was in the jungle. I have seen some people on Twitter really hate it, but I have, like, a dumb boy mentality when it comes to movies. I'm like, dinosaurs, cute people. That's all I need.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it. Is it action or story there?

[Oscar]

It's kind of a mix. I mean, it's. The movie is very predictable. Like, it's a summer blockbuster to the core. Like, it's just very predictable and what you would expect, I think. But I was expecting it to be a lot dumber. I would think the bar was really low for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Okay.

[Oscar]

Because the Chris Pratt ones, the. He had three. The first one I like, Chris Pratt, was in Jurassic World, the second trilogy. 1. Jurassic World 1, 2, and 3.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened? He died or what? In the movies. Why did they ask him back?

[Oscar]

It's just like each trilogy is like a different group of people, I think, like, the first three were, like, the Jeff Goldblum ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

Superior.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And then the Chris Pratt ones. And now it's the Scarlett Johansson, Jonathan Bailey. Hopefully he gets a trilogy, I would assume.

[Trisha Paytas]

But do you think they get top billing or Scarlet's above him?

[Oscar]

I think Scarlett is top billing. I mean, she is, like. Like the queen of blockbusters.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's true. Trixie and Katya were talking about her, like, not wanting to be pictured out in public, you know, because it captures her in the time. And they're like, she's been in the industry long enough. She can do whatever she wants. And I was like, I'll kind of tee on that. Honestly. She's been around, like, so many things and doing so many movies. It's like she kind of gets immunity for anything she wants.

[Oscar]

She's just like, movie star. Full blown movie star.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's very pretty. She is very, like, Marilyn Monroe. She's very. Just gorgeous. Good actress.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And she seems. Seems nice and, like, she seems sweet. You never hear, like, Scarlett Johansson horror stories, Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I guess she's only pictures with people.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. T. And she won't join Instagram, but other than that. She seems.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boundaries. We respect it. I love that so much. Okay, I'm down to see. Is Jeff Goldblum in it?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm surprised they don't give him a little cameo.

[Oscar]

No, this is. It's kind of like. I mean, it's called Rebirth, so it is a little bit of like a reset for Jurassic, I guess, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

And where are the animals? Is it like a theme park? Like the movies? Or is it.

[Oscar]

No, the plot of this one is that like, it's been 17 years or whatever. Because in Jurassic World, they broke out of the theme park.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

That was how. That was that. And then in this trilogy, they're just like, out in nature. But then at this point, everyone's. It's been like 20 years of them being free. So everyone's like, over dinosaurs. No one cares. Like, oh, we've been there, seen that. You know, it's like, okay, we get it. And it's modern day. Yeah. Like modern day.

[Trisha Paytas]

And everyone's like, okay, the dinosaurs are with us.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But they've like, they've really died out in, like the cities and stuff. So they kind of live near the equator and what, are they hunting them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Down there or what?

[Oscar]

The plot is that they're trying to.

[Moses Hacmon]

Spoilers.

[Oscar]

No, this is something like in the trailer.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Oscar]

The plot is that they're trying to use them for pharmaceutical reasons. Lose their blood or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

What. Okay. Big pharma.

[Oscar]

Yeah. That is the. The commentary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Wow, there's so much commentary with Lilo and Stitch and now this. Oh, my gosh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Healthcare to kids through dinosaurs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, I'm becoming more political, personally. And so I. I'm liking this. I like this little new movement. Okay. We love it.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I mean, I enjoyed it. It's. Jonathan Bailey is great. I love the way that it was shot. Was cool. Like, you really feel like the dinosaurs are with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And they, like, look impressive. They look huge. They look like. I don't know, the way that it was shot. They do a lot of, like, low shots, so everything looks really big, which I like.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you think they act with them?

[Oscar]

Good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

You ever see behind the scenes or anything?

[Oscar]

Not if Jurassic, I guess, kind of similar, but how to train your dragon? Obviously there's kind of similar because they're shooting with a dragon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And they had like the head of the dragon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a mock up head that looks like a dragon.

[Oscar]

Yeah, the head of the dragon. So they have to act with the head. So I'm assuming probably similar for Jurassic. Like, they probably have A little head on a stick out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so crazy to me because you remember the one of, like, Twilight where, like, Taylor Lautner's in the green screen and she. Him as the wolf or whatever. I was like, that's weird. And that's actually probably better than just, like. I think Game of Thrones was just, like, tennis balls. Like, she was, like, flying on tennis balls. And I was like, that's crazy to have to, like, be scared of that. I don't know. That's good acting. They never get, like, Oscars or anything for Jurassic Park. Really?

[Oscar]

Did the first Jurassic Park. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that should. First. Jurassic park is very good. I really do enjoy it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

It was, like, historic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally prehistoric.

[Oscar]

Oh, tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't know there was so many to watch. All the other ones, I don't think I've seen any.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's a trilogy with Jeff Goldblum. You said, like, three.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So, like, the. The 1993 movie had. That was, like, the start of his own trilogy. Then the Chris Pratt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

In my mind, I thought, this is the first time they're making another trip.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think this is the first remake they've ever made? I mean, I kind of knew about the Chris Pratt because they redid the ride because the ride has, like, underwater dinosaurs. So I was like, okay, they must have redid it. Wasn't interested in it. But I love. Oh, interesting. I bet the first one had to have. Because it's Steven Spielberg, the music, like it had.

[Oscar]

It doesn't look like an Academy Award. It did win an MTV Movie Award.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that happening? Does that still happen? I never.

[Oscar]

I think they're on pause these days.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why?

[Oscar]

Just because no one cared.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

It won best sound, the original one. Best sound, best visual effects and sound effect, editing.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, the technical say, I mean, all that work. I mean, it does seem impressive that.

[Oscar]

Someone'S doing all that because it was also, like, pre cgi. Like, they use practical effects and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

So love that so much. Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you've influenced me. I'm going. I really am. If we're not making a bunny Han ourselves some beer. We can make it two minutes down the street to a movie. Okay. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Did you get a popcorn bucket?

[Oscar]

No. Oh, my God. I did take a photo. They didn't have Jurassic Ones yet, I think, because the movie's not out. I think it's out, like, another week and a half. But they did have a Megan Head. And I did take a photo of.

[Trisha Paytas]

It, so get it.

[Oscar]

I was quite impressed. I saw on the way out, I was like, wow, that is such a big popcorn bucket. Oh, let me see. I had a really zoom in because I was literally on my way out. Can you see that? Kind of scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's just like a head sitting up there. Okay. I like it.

[Oscar]

And then. Oh, they did have a photo of the Fantastic Four popcorn bucket. And it. Did you see it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

The one that they think is Pedro Pascal's, like, schlong. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why do they have it wrapped around the popcorn like that?

[Oscar]

It is very wild to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I like the idea of it.

[Oscar]

I do like the idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Their outfits are not cute, though, right? In this new Fantastic Four. Why do they look so old? They look like from the 70s or something.

[Oscar]

It's supposed to be that, like, Jetsons, like, retro features, futuristic retro aesthetic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I hate it. Right?

[Oscar]

Darian wants us to. He loves them and he wants us to be that for Halloween.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, call Shane and Rylan to be the other four, then, because how are you gonna be Fantastic Four with just two?

[Oscar]

Well, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, tell me.

[Oscar]

I was gonna. Now that you said it, because there is. You could be Vanessa Kirby. You could be Pedro Pascal.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're giving Moses Pedro Pascal. Who are you and Darian gonna be?

[Oscar]

I feel like maybe. Maybe you have to be the Thing and then give him the one no one wants.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I do when it's, like, something I like. Well, he doesn't care. He'll be whatever character.

[Oscar]

He could be the Thing and then he wants.

[Trisha Paytas]

He wants to be Huddled Pascal.

[Oscar]

He does. But I told him he has to be Joseph Quinn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why? That's awful.

[Oscar]

Because he would look better blonde than me. Because he also has been blonde.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you love a wig.

[Oscar]

True. I do love a wig.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like he should get to pick his top if that's, like, his costume. Whoever's like, costume idea it is, they should get to pick the who they're going to be.

[Oscar]

Fine. I guess I can be Joseph Quinn. I can do a little bl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's the other one? Who am I?

[Oscar]

Invisible Woman? Vanessa Kirby.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I have to show up.

[Oscar]

Oh, damn. I was going to say she's pregnant, but in the movie. Yeah, She's a pregnant superhero, and in real life, she's pregnant. Oh, so you might have to get pregnant again for the. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't even say that. Don't even say that. No, she's. Is she a pregnant Superhero.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so odd. How is she flipping?

[Moses Hacmon]

Is the baby invisible?

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh? Oh, the baby, is it? Yeah.

[Oscar]

Pedro Pascal is the dad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, sexy.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have to be Pedro then, huh? I have to be Pedro.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Darian's Pedro.

[Oscar]

He loves.

[Trisha Paytas]

He loves it. You're the Thing. Love the name. He just sounds like a blob to me. Like the things.

[Oscar]

Did you watch the Bear?

[Trisha Paytas]

The one with Jeremy Allen White?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

He's the. The one that goes. He says cousin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. The tall guy, is he a cook or something?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I remember. He's the one related to Jeremy Allen White.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Kind of.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

He was the one that's screaming all the time. Like they were screaming at each other all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you have good memory? Okay, so he's the Thing.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he's the Thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not cute though.

[Oscar]

Well, he turned into a rock man. That's what he was thinking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think like he's like a stone or something. Okay, perfect. Well, we're can be that. What's your Halloween choice this year? I was thinking about this already to our Halloween group.

[Oscar]

I honestly have not even thought about it. But I guess f. I'm trying to think of an alternate to Fantastic Four.

[Trisha Paytas]

We can definitely do that. We can do multiple.

[Oscar]

Oh, you're right. You're right. We do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like if you had your dream. I started to think about that too with like pink. I'm like, I gotta be pink on the show. Who are we all gonna be?

[Oscar]

Oh my God. I guess we already did Jurassic. Oh, you guys did Jurassic Park? Oh, no, we all did Jurassic Park.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were the star.

[Oscar]

I do love Jonathan Bailey's little outfit. The new Jurassic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we should. Yeah, we could do the updated version. Ours was like the old like ninet version that we got like Holly store. We could do a cuter version. Okay. I love that. That's a good one. I was looking at the Minecraft on Hulu, the poster. Oh yeah. I saw Jason Momoa in the pink jacket. So I was like, I could be Jason Momoa. Who would you be? Did you see it?

[Oscar]

No, but I could be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that just looks like you now. I wouldn't be that costume.

[Oscar]

I like this little vest and his little button up shirt that literally looks how you dress.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's trending. It's trending right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's trending.

[Moses Hacmon]

What's.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did they say?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think just for Jurassic Park. People are excited about it, but it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trading on X. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Entertainment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they're doing good press for it. I love a Good press.

[Oscar]

I know July's fierce because Superman's right after. And then Fantastic Four.

[Trisha Paytas]

You'd be a good Superman, too. Lots of superheroes.

[Oscar]

I don't know if I'd be a good Superman. He is too. He's so. David Corn Sweat is like, the perfect looking human being.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is pretty beautiful.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he is just. Yeah, he's the perfect Superman. He also just seems very sweet. He's on all his little interviews. He. And he's also been, like, DMing fans. Like, there was, like, one Superman, like, movie fan account that tweeted about. He's like, I'm taking a break from updates because my wife is about to give birth. And then he dm. The fan account was like, congratulations to you and your wife. Like, I hope everything goes really well. Sending you so much love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Oscar]

What a sweetie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can we get him on the show maybe?

[Oscar]

He seems so sweet. I love him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's producing that? Which studio?

[Oscar]

Warner Brothers. Hashtag Warner Bros. Partner.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm definitely not hashtag Warner Brothers partner. We went to the Beetlejuice that no one was invited to. Everyone was at the premiere. We were just in Hollywood, like, what's the same time the premiere is happening? I was like, okay, love you. But also hashtag Universal partner over here. I think I'm gonna put my money into Universal. That's where I'm putting my eggs.

[Oscar]

Okay. Tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

When we go to the Universal. What is it called? That big world, Epic universe. Yeah. Us eat all the snacks.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did they eat in Jurassic Park?

[Oscar]

Did they eat in Jurassic Park? I don't know. I don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, the dinosaurs eat.

[Oscar]

The dinosaurs were eating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Eating people.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think dinosaurs in real life ate people or there's no people when they were here?

[Oscar]

Were there?

[Moses Hacmon]

Depends who you ask. There's different.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some people think there's people.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Some people. Because some people think history is much shorter than we think, and some people think history is much longer. And then. And then which people? You know, at what time in evolution of people?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, but there was definitely dinosaurs here on Earth.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because we found. Yes, proven.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I. But there's probably no humans because the Cube.

[Oscar]

I think humans were alive during the. My. My point of reference being the Ice Age movies, because the Ice Age movies with, like, the woolly mammoths and stuff, they had, like, cavemen, so. Miss. I think the cavemen were around during ice. Ice Age era, and that was like. Were the. Were there dinosaurs in Ice Age? I don't think so. I think there was woolly mammoths and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, but Willie, mammoth sound crazy. If they were like walking on earth, aren't they trying to bring them back? Leave them alone? Yeah, like, oh my God.

[Oscar]

Everyone's just trying to leave some things in the past.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like what benefit? We love a woolly mammoth. They're probably cute. But also like, what benefit is it bringing them back?

[Oscar]

And that's Jurassic World not taught us anything. Yeah. Just gotta leave things. Gotta leave them in the past.

[Trisha Paytas]

Any big people? Any fat people in the movie?

[Oscar]

Any fat people in the movie? No, I mean the human cast is pretty small.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you hear Lululemon, you probably think of aligned yoga pants. Weightlessly soft, like you're wearing next to nothing. That's why you see them in class, at the grocery store and in the park. But did you know about skirts with built in liner shorts so you can still jump for the Frisbee and tanks and bodysuits with Align's iconic stretch, you won't want to take it off. And with endless style options, you don't have to shop in store or [e-mail].

[Oscar]

Skinny and not a lot of people.

[Trisha Paytas]

A small quantity.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cause in the original they had it. Was it Newman from Seinfeld was in there and I always appreciated they had a big character in. He's the one that gets squirted in the face by the. Oh yes, I loved him.

[Oscar]

By the frilly thing. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was that? What is that? Dinosaur.

[Oscar]

I forgot that one's in this new one too. They love putting that little frilly guy in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the one says like spit on you on the tram ride. I love that one. And I love that they put him in there. He was always my inspiration as a kid because there wasn't a lot of big people on tv. And I love. Also he's on Seinfeld and Jurassic Park. That's pretty good. I wonder where he is today. He should have been in the movie. I guess he died, huh? In the first one. Oh, not in real life. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's why they didn't bring them anymore. They bring skinny ones so they don't tempt the dinosaurs.

[Trisha Paytas]

What, you think he was eaten? Was he eaten by a dinosaur? I don't remember how. He just got squirted by him.

[Oscar]

He must have got eaten if he died.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was like the jeep or something rolled over him or he fell off on a jeep. I don't know.

[Oscar]

I assume everyone who has died in the Jurassic movies has been eaten.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, maybe Seen it in a while. I would love to get him on the podcast. Where's Newman?

[Moses Hacmon]

Newman?

[Trisha Paytas]

I never watched Seinfeld. I don't like Seinfeld, but I like him as the actor. Oh, you know him?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to find him. All right, well, I'm down to see it. I really do. I. I really do. That's my goal this weekend. We haven't been doing much lately because I've been just like, literally resting around, but I really want to see. Oh, it's not this weekend?

[Oscar]

No, the first. July 1st. July 2nd. July 2nd.

[Trisha Paytas]

July 4th is gonna be so busy then. Yeah, everyone's gonna go see it, hopefully. Oh, is it not projected to do well?

[Oscar]

It's pretty low right now. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, all this.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is it because of your summer and kids, like, wouldn't kids want to see any dinosaur?

[Oscar]

But the. The big thing is movie ticket prices are so expensive that a lot of families are waiting until it's, like, on digital to. To purchase it.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the price of a movie ticket?

[Oscar]

It's like, 20 bucks for, like, a Saturday. Yeah. Then if you get the premium screen, it's almost 30. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is actually crazy. When I was a kid, it was, like, $5.

[Oscar]

I know. You can go, like, a matinee on a Tuesday, then it's $8. But yeah, like, if you go during night or, like, evening for, like, a family, it could be like, a family of four. It could almost be, like, 100 bucks.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is actually crazy.

[Oscar]

So we'll see. They all made a billion dollars. The Jurassic park movie. Does anyone care? I don't know, but this one is coming in lower.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah, but. But that doesn't include, like, walk up. So walk up could end up being.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone will go walk to walk up to your counter. And Jonathan Vaniscar Hansen is open. Come here. Promote it. We did it for Megan.

[Oscar]

He will do it for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a million views. We would love. Give me seven minutes. That's all. Actually, the interview at the end of being, like, three minutes. Give me three minutes. It's all I need. I would love. Oh, my God. Can you ask some silly questions out of junk? I guess I have to be approved, huh?

[Oscar]

No, junket questions don't have to be approved.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you can ask them anything.

[Oscar]

Yeah. If it's, like, a big celebrity, they'll say, like, no, like, personal questions or whatever. Like, for Millie Bobby Brown, it was, like, the rule everyone got was, like, only one question about her wedding or whatever. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, it Depends on who it is.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's always a PR person in the room. Yeah, that kind of like sometimes those PR people are.

[Trisha Paytas]

In a way. I'm not gonna lie, not on this podcast. But my district, Trish, I remember the Brett Michaels one. They're like, can't ask him anything about Rock of Love. I'm like, that was my whole question throughout the whole interview. I was like, what the hell?

[Oscar]

So I was like, that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy when people are like that. It's like, okay, come on.

[Oscar]

And in junkets they like control the footage. So if there's like something they don't want, they'll just cut it before they give it to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. That's something we didn't know either. We didn't know if we had to like bring our own stuff. But yeah, they gave us the footage. And I was like, oh, damn. They didn't give us all the raw footage. You're like, you can just add it how you want. I was like, that's pretty cool.

[Oscar]

I guess because it's, you know, the doll. It's not like you're doing. As far as your answer.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. I think it was pre recorded those answers too. I need to get on those more. Damn.

[Oscar]

Well, Petro Pascal is already doing fantastic for press. Did you see his like whole magazine cover? He did, I think. What was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Vanity Fair.

[Oscar]

I think it was Vanity Fair. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. But where he's wearing a big sweater and no pants.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. It was great.

[Oscar]

He is so.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would look good in that because your legs are always so good.

[Oscar]

But he is so. He's not skinny. He's lean. Like he's. If you put me next to Pedro Pascal, one of us is going to look more lean than the.

[Trisha Paytas]

But just like head down. I think you could look the. I saw those pictures. I. Oscar could do this photo shoot.

[Oscar]

I love that energy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Like a big sweater and then like just tone legs. It looked nice. I liked it.

[Oscar]

He is just the most charming human being in the world because he talked about like everything from his sister to like when he was in New York and he was like a struggling actor and he had his like Pitbull mix that he rescued was like the one thing to keep him going when he was so poor and talked about his. His mom passing away and what did he say?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't hear that one.

[Oscar]

He was just talking about how he wouldn't celebrate his birthday for the long time because she passed away like around his birthday. When he was, like, I think 22 or 23. And I think this. This past year was the first time you, like, let people do a little something with him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that. That makes me so sad about grief. Is like, guys, like, 20 years later, you're still like, I know. On to it.

[Oscar]

He just seems, like, the sweetest part. That's why I'm like, I mean, all the success in the world, because he's been through so much and, like, still such a good, outspoken person. Talked about being anti J.K. rowling.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that. Like, the first person to actually, like, talk about it.

[Oscar]

It's like, let's talk about that stand on that business.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that so much. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And I think he also recognizes, like, the privilege being, like, a man and also, like, being in all these blockbusters, too, because, like, it's funny, him and Rachel Zegler cover, like, use their platforms for the same things. But Rachel Zegler gets so much, like, so much backlash, and Pedro is, like, loved for it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is always. But that's. But you've nailed it. You always talked about this and open my eyes so much on this podcast is like, it really is because. Because women.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's so crazy. They are, like, so similar, but Rachel gets so much hate and gets all the blame for everything. Like, as if she. It's. It is so wild to me. Yeah. Because they are saying essentially the same things.

[Oscar]

Yeah. They stand for the same, like, causes and everything. But also, to Pedro's credit, like, he also, like, supports Rachel a lot. Like, when she was going through the Snow White hate campaign, he would, like, share all her posts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Oscar]

Yeah, he was shared to his Instagram stories, Like, all these, like, good, like, articles about her or good posts that she did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Friends, I think.

[Oscar]

I don't know how close they are, but at least oomphies, because they post each other's stuff a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love that. Okay. Love that.

[Oscar]

Yeah. That's why I love platform.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And he's so. And you're so. When you're so big and at that, like, level, that's when people start shying away, being like, oh, I don't want to talk about this stuff. This whatever. So the fact that he's still so vocal about it, so sweet. It's wonderful.

[Oscar]

And literally in, like, every. Every franchise because he has Last of Us, Fantastic Four, Star wars, and then he does, like, the artsy movies like, Materialist. So he really is just everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

Game of Thrones.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. How could I forget Game of Thrones but on the sillier note, I thought this was funny. In the article, they talked to Bella Ramsey, who is his pseudo daughter. Adopted daughter, basically, in the Last of Us. And. And Bella talked about the Internet calling Pedro Pascal daddy. And they admitted that they found it uncomfortable the way that everyone was running with it. And they said, I felt worried for him. I want to protect him from the whole joke of becoming the Internet's daddy. I was like, I don't want everyone to refer to you as that and see you as that. You're so much more. I thought that was so funny. And then I kind of. I feel almost like Debbie Ryan. That was like. Like, you know that meme where it's like, I'm. I. We're gonna make history.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes.

[Oscar]

I do kind of feel like that because you started it accidentally, and I feel like that's such an obnoxious thing to say, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but, hey, if it's true, it's true. It was your tick tock, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah, because it was, like, right before it was the premiere of the Last of Us, and then I stole. I reheated Buzzfeeds, nachos. It was like, my thing was like, Stan tweets. I'd be like, oh, just like, ask Elizabeth Olsen about everyone calling her mother or whatever, and, like, have her ret tweets calling her mother. And they asked me to find Pedro Pascal tweets for him to do. And then I found, like, that daddy one. It was like, pedro Pascal is my daddy or something like that. And that was his bit at the time. Like, he would go on talk shows when he's promoting Game of Thrones, and he was like, very much like, oh, Game of Thrones.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn, that was long ago.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So it was like this was already kind of his thing. Like, he would talk. He would joke about being, like, a daddy or whatever. So it wasn't, like, sexualizing him. Like, he was in on the joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, he loved him.

[Oscar]

And they were. They were like, I don't think we can say this. I was like. I was adamant. I was like, he's gonna love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he love it at the time?

[Oscar]

He did because it was the first one. And then after that, I think it got too much because then everyone was doing it. And then it's like, yeah, because then all the other, like, outlets were kind of reheating. Reheating my nachos that I reheated from Buzzy. So it was like, three times reheated nachos at this point.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the three Time reheated nachos, though. It's so good. Like, Benson Boone was say on his TikTok, he's like, everyone's saying you're reheating Harry Styles nachos. He's like, and so. So you reheated.

[Oscar]

And they were getting a little stale, I think. Yeah. Because then everyone was like, okay, this is too much. Which agreed.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's never too much. Because you know who plays into that? Jonathan Bailey. He's been loving this little everything. Little glasses, little kiss. Like, he loves this little everything.

[Oscar]

I think at least with that one, there's like a building going on. But with Pedro, it was very much. It was still like, daddy, Daddy, daddy. There was no, like, growth. It was just, daddy, daddy, daddy, he's daddy. But then the. That he does play into it or he did it for a little bit. I feel like he kind of just got tired of it because he would get asked about the tweets or whatever. He's like, yeah. The first one with us, he was. He was like in on a joke. He was having fun. He was silly.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was his response?

[Oscar]

He would read the tweet and say, it's true. I am your daddy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so he love.

[Oscar]

Yeah. The first one he liked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now he's over it.

[Oscar]

I think he kind of got over it. Yeah. But I just thought it was so funny because Bella's also so young too. So the fact that they were like, protect Pedro from.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's cute, though. I kind of love that defense. Okay. I love it.

[Oscar]

Apologies, Bella Ramsay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Apologies to starting it. I don't think you did anything wrong. I think you took the meme. I think, if anything, you should get a raise. I always say this. You should get a raise for your questions because are you considered a writer? Are you getting paid as a writer? Because you're so good at questions. I do think that's like your strong point in everything and the fact that you're not even asking them, you're writing them for people. You're a writer. I was in that with the Megan stuff too. I was like, you had such good questions. Everyone loved the questions. And I'm like, that's Oscar. And same thing with all these interviews. You have the good questions that go viral.

[Oscar]

They should pay. Pay you. That is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do they have writers?

[Oscar]

No, it's just. Cuz it's like. It's just part of producing is writing the writing the question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? I didn't know all that. Okay, yeah, good to know here. Because I was thinking, like, should I be paying People to write these questions because, you know, at hacks, they have, like, writers write jokes, you know, so different.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Journalism doesn't sound like the best industry to go into because.

[Oscar]

No, it's rough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They don't seem to, like, have your back. Like a writers union or something. Okay, well, I love that you wrote those questions. You're really good at it. You're really good at asking the important ones. That's a good one. I love Pedro. Oh, my God. I would love him to come on here, too.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? Like, I feel like we're entering that. That era.

[Oscar]

I agree. Like, the Megan junket was really the gay way. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

After that, they're like, everyone needs to be interviewed. She was giving, though. People did say, too, that she was nice to me, that she was rude to other people, that she was a little sassy.

[Oscar]

That's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which makes sense. Cause like we said, the holding space lady tweeted before. I supposed to Tracy love her. She did say. She's like, I don't know what the f. That means. Holding space. And I was like, oh, damn. Okay. Megan, she was very nice to us.

[Oscar]

Legends, Supporting legends, we love. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We have the same. The same vibe. I didn't know what to expect going in. That's why she caught me off guard, which I can kill them all. I was like, oh, my God. I guess that's what she does, though. But I love Pedro Pascal. I'm back on the Pedro Pascal train. Well, I wasn't on it, but I'm on it now.

[Oscar]

You're boarding literally. But literally the number.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what I say. I just love him. I'll go see Fantastic Four. What do you think about that? We're going to see Fantastic Four.

[Oscar]

Is that Warner Bros. To Disney or Marvel? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean? Is that. Is that a production house?

[Oscar]

Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like Universal, Warner Brothers. There's Disney.

[Oscar]

Really? Wait. Yeah, Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought they only did, like, cartoons.

[Oscar]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, I didn't know they did like movies. Wait, what's like, a Disney movie that's not a cartoon?

[Oscar]

Like, Princess Diaries? Never watched high school musicals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's like Disney Channel. I didn't know that Disney had its own production company.

[Oscar]

Well, yeah, Disney owns a. I mean, Disney has, like, a lot of studios under it, too. So there's Disney, and they own Marvel Studios. They own 21st Century Fox. They own Searchlight.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because when we go to the Disney Channel on the tv, then you see they have so many Options.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's different, though, right? Didn't say. People say that's, like, a streaming thing now because people are mad. It's like, adult, like, content on there, but they're like, oh, it's just a streaming platform.

[Oscar]

Oh. For like. Oh, Disney plus. Yes. Because it merged with Hulu. Yeah. And they own, like, abc, so. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Fantastic Four is Disney.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's Marvel. Marvel Studios owned by Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, Spider Man's Disney.

[Oscar]

That's where it gets a little confusing. Spider man is Sony.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. That's what I'm saying. That's so confusing. But Marvel's just strictly Disney.

[Oscar]

Marvel is owned by Disney. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fantastic Forest, strictly Disney.

[Oscar]

Yes. But Spider man is owned. When Marvel was broke back in the day, they sold their characters to different studios, so they sold Spider man to Sony. And so when there's a Spider man movie, Sony works with Disney on it, but it's owned by Sony.

[Trisha Paytas]

Serious question. Where do you think my superhero character falls?

[Oscar]

I thought about this a lot, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

To be honest, because, like, I want to know my legal rights. Can I tell Merch? Does she just not go anywhere in the universe?

[Oscar]

What channel did it this make me a superhero?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was Sci Fi, but it's no longer around.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I thought Sci Fi, when it was around, was owned by Universal.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought, and, like, Dark Horse comics was, like, the little thing on my cover. But, I mean, it is Stanley. I mean, it's probably just so old now. Like, it doesn't go anywhere. Like, you know what I mean? Like, maybe I can just own it.

[Oscar]

Okay. Yeah. So Sci Fi was owned by NBC Universal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

All roads lead back to Universal.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where we're headed. Watch out, Henry Hacks. Lopez versus Lopez is gone. We're moving in. I don't think that, like, has anything to do with us, but Kelly Clarkson. Oh, I heard she's getting off the air. Maybe we'll sneak.

[Oscar]

Oh, I didn't hear that.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're moving in.

[Oscar]

That is so funny. I guess you have to see. Did you have to sign any contracts or something? Probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

No probably. But it's probably way. You know, when they're, like, so old, like, contracts just, like, expire when. Because that's what I found out. When things don't exist. Like the Greg Baron shows. The first show I was on, it doesn't exist. So I can, like, use that clip. Clip. Because I was trying to figure out, like, ways I can, like, you know, can I use this? And, like. Well, it just, like, doesn't exist. So it Doesn't.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So probably can. Yeah, I can just use that superhero and make my own movie. Probably highest bidder Disney or Sony. Let me know. I would love. Because Marvel is making a comeback. Huh?

[Oscar]

Well.

[Moses Hacmon]

They came back a while ago. Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that it was broke for a minute.

[Oscar]

It was. This was like way back in the day it was broke and then it had a big resurgence. Agents obviously with like the Avengers movies and all that. But now it's on the decline. But who knows? It might be on the come up eventually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder when the comeback was. When was it? When was it broke?

[Oscar]

God. What? They went almost bankrupt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

It was when it was just comics though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dang.

[Oscar]

It was a lot. And then I think like 90s. Between 1993 and 1996.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A while ago.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. H. Getting a whole education here. I would go see Fantastic Four, I suppose. I think over Superman.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz I can only pick one superhero movie cuz I cannot do superhero movies.

[Oscar]

But I'm more into Superman, surprisingly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think he would like Superman more.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think?

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz it's less sci fi. Like it's more.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's one person, human relationship, some romance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well yeah, that's true. When there's too many characters, I get a little overwhelmed.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do like Padre Pascal.

[Moses Hacmon]

So we can watch one at home and one in the movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

We gotta get to Jurassic Park. I guess next week. Damn. I thought it was this weekend because this weekend we had more time. I was like, maybe this weekend. But damn, it's not happening. I'm so sad about it. I'm getting into movies, I'm getting into pop culture, I'm getting into the world and climate change and all this stuff. Big pharma. I'm getting into it. I know now what's happening in the world. I feel more educated. My mind is being opened and I feel great. I feel like I could run for office one day.

[Oscar]

What was the combination between pop culture and climate change? It was just very jarring to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Two things I wasn't well versed in. I don't think I'm well versed in pop culture. I think I'm well versed in like tiktokers, you know what I mean? But you opened me up to like this mainstream, like the lore of Jurassic park, you know, like, like actors that are, you know, what is it called? Like box office grosses. Like how, you know, all that stuff is so fascinating to me and I was like, I want to get into this too. I want to know all of this stuff ahead of time. I like mainstream. I think I like mainstream pop culture more nowadays than, like, Internet celebrities.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I. I kind of. I'm fascinated by the industry when it comes to, like, traditional Hollywood. And then. Yeah. There's some parts of, like, Internet culture I still enjoy, but the problem with, like, influencers and Internet culture is that it's just so big now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And I'm, like, always kind of overwhelmed because there are just so many people that you never.

[Trisha Paytas]

That just get let in.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see speaking of Jurassic World? The whole Earl family was at the premiere, but no Alex Earl. I was like, how did her whole family get invited? But she doesn't. Because that's what I was trying to do with the Lilo and Stitch when I wasn't here, trying to get my family invited, but not me.

[Oscar]

Oh, the Earl family.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that was the only reality show on E. Huh? Did you not see that? So they all were there, the entire Earl family. And I was like, that's crazy. Why are they there? And they're, like, promoting an E show.

[Oscar]

I'm dead. I can't even.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Oscar]

I can barely pick out Alex Earl out of a blunt, out of, like, a lineup of, like, blonde girls, let alone the Earl family, to be honest. No shade. It's just like, I just don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I didn't know either, because I follow Alex also. She photoshopped her in the self in the picture because she wasn't there. And so I just saw, and I was like, this is crazy. So I guess her dad's like, her manager. Her stepmom was like. I think she was, like, an escort to a famous politician.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think something like that's, like, her claim to fame or something like that. I think I could be getting that wrong. Oh, my God. Let me double check it. But something like that, there was some scandal where she might have just been, like, I don't know, maybe. Look that up. Alexander's stepmom, I think she was. Which is, like, crazy, because she was kind of known for that.

[Oscar]

Ashley Dupree.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Ashley Dupree. What did she do?

[Oscar]

She was one day approached by the owner of Emperor's Club vip, a luxury escort service, who handed her business card. She was sprung into the spotlight 22. When it became nationwide news that one of her clients was a New York governor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I remember when all that happened. So then I was like, wait, that's Alex girl. Stepmom, which you don't get. Kudos again. I'm all about the sex workers, but it is such an interesting thing. And then now they have their own E show.

[Oscar]

I was like, damn, that's why there's a synergy again.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so true. And then she did you see, she. Her podcast, Hot Mess is going to Spotify.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what do you think how that works? You guys know I'm a Taurus. I love money. How do you think that works? Do you think that, like, she got like a cash up front deal probably, right?

[Oscar]

Or some kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

It must be like, again, I love Alex. I also know she did her. But it's so interesting to me. Who was it? There was someone else who, like, I don't know. But certain people, you know, they just get all these, like, opportunities and they don't, like, translate into, like, views or numbers, but they keep getting all these big things and you're just like, how are they so connected? Yeah, I don't know. Alex, I mean, she's connected. I love her, but it is wild to think, like, they got their own eShow and then Spotify podcasts. Someone's hustling who. She has Kris Jenner as her. As her manager, getting her in there.

[Oscar]

Kind of related. Sophia Franklin talked about the. I think for kind of the first time, right? The Alex Cooper call her daddy feud and split.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I feel like she always talks about it.

[Oscar]

Oh, I feel like she doesn't really address Sophia.

[Trisha Paytas]

Am I? No, I feel like a while ago she would address it a lot.

[Oscar]

No, I don't know. I. I thought she hasn't really talked about that. You could be right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't go here. I don't know much about her, but.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she did another podcast, someone trading secrets podcast with Bachelor alum Jason Tardick to explain her exit, her side of the exit from Colorado. And I guess it's kind of in the news because of Alex Cooper's like, documentary that she had on Hulu and stuff. And she said that she didn't talk about it for a long time because she was afraid that she was going to look crazy. But how she was inspired to start talking about it is she saw the Scooter Braun and Taylor Swift, like, fallout, and she was like, well, everyone thought that Scooter Braun was like a horrible person. And but then when she actually looked into it, she was like, I was really looking at the details. It's like, well, he bought Taylor Swift masters legally, so he was villainized. So she compares herself to Scooter Bra. I'm like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you want to be the Scooter Bra. Just because. Oh, Ha. What?

[Oscar]

She's like, well, he technically he didn't do anything illegal, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no one was accusing her of doing anything illegal. What is she even talking about? They're like, you're just dumb. Like, that's so different. Scooter Bronic has at least made some money. I would consider him actually smart in that situation.

[Oscar]

Even though he is dubious. Yeah, like, because that was the whole point. Like, Taylor's point was that Scooter was just like, dubious. And he had Kanye and Justin Bieber as clients at the time and they're like, you know, terrorizing Taylor and taunting her all the time. So it was more of like the power dynamic.

[Trisha Paytas]

So is she terrorizing and taunting?

[Oscar]

I don't think she thought out the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Comparison all the way, like, where she was going.

[Oscar]

I think she was like, well, he was made out to be the villain, but if you actually look at the details, he didn't do anything wrong. I. I think that's where she was going with it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But just because you don't do something legally wrong doesn't mean. Yeah. Like, if you're harassing someone and buying rights to something that you didn't create, like, you're being dubious.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, maybe we need clarification on that statement. Sophia, we love you. But also. What?

[Oscar]

And I. Yeah, and I didn't know anything about Caller Daddy until, like, Alex Cooper started, like, going solo with it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so no, same. I didn't know either. I remember they were on, like, impulsive, like before I was. And I had no idea who they were.

[Oscar]

Oh, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, these girls are like, same episode or. No, like a couple weeks before they were on. And I remember, like, the guys being so excited about them. They're like, the Call Her Daddy girls are here. And I was like, what's Call Her Daddy? Like, I don't know what this is. Yeah, I wasn't too. I wasn't well aware either.

[Oscar]

So they. From 2018. They did it from 2018 to 2020. They signed a three year contract and a 70 grand deal with Barstool Sports at the beginning of the podcast together. And then when they were renegotiating, renegotiating their pay in 2020, Dave Portnoy told them that if you stay at Barstool for one more year, you can own Call Her Daddy. And this was in Alex Cooper's documentary. According to that, Sophia didn't want to take the new deal and decided to leave the podcast. And then Alex took it, obviously, which was a great decision. Because now she's on the Forbes, like I think she's number five on the Forbes, like top 10.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know that is one of those decisions where you're just like, like in Sophia's defense, like, ah, I guess like according to like Alex and Dave, they were saying like she had a boyfriend that was kind of like trying to negotiate with like HBO or something. So he was pro. Like, it's not like she had a guy that was trying to like tell her like, you could get more somewhere else. You should do this. Obviously both of them. I wouldn't have known this either. I'm like now because of color Daddy. I think about it. But I guess like owning like your IP like is like such a big deal.

[Oscar]

Yeah, true.

[Trisha Paytas]

So any alcohol that sold or anything sold under call or Daddy like they would be getting. Because I think Sophia talked about it too. Or maybe they both did. Maybe Sophia, that Unwell sweatshirt, she said they sold a million dollars in profit from the like and that was. And she said it was from her. So you know that whole Unwell network. Sophia claims.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That she wrote an email that just said I'm simply unwell.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she's like, it's actually mine. And I was like, well, God, you need to be a little smarter. You got to trademark that. Stick with the ip.

[Oscar]

Now the water, we got the. Or whatever it is, the water.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything is unwell. Which is insane. I know. I do feel for her because that would definitely suck to see and then see the trajectory afterwards. But sometimes you just don't know with money stuff. I'm so bad with it. That's why I have Moses help me. But I guess she had her boyfriend help her and that didn't go well. But sometimes you don't know because sometimes it's like gambling. It's like, oh, well, this is a really good offer, but you could get a better offer or you could just get screwed altogether out of the offer. So I'm definitely someone who's like, like, let me just ride it and take the money. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't exit. Yeah, I'm surprised she exited.

[Oscar]

I know I wouldn't let go of that. I be like, almost. Did she fly too close to the sun? Did you think that her solo would be. Oh, you think? Oh, I don't know. I'm just kind of guessing. Cuz that's like a big game. You have to be like confident, like, oh, I can go and make Sophia with an F bigger than. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's I get bright. I don't know how big. Hard. It sounds like it was big. I don't know. It is hard. It's hard to say. People do get like that.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yikes. Yeah. Where they offer. Were they offered more money?

[Oscar]

It didn't say that. They were renegotiating, so I'm sure they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Must have been just like, stay another year with what's happening, and then you guys can own it.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sounds like a good deal. But I don't know. You know, I wouldn't trust Dave Porter either. I love Dave Fortnite, but he's. You know, when people are so smart with business, this. It's like, well, they're rich and smart for a reason.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I know it go over my head for sure. I'd probably be the Sophie in that situation. I'd probably be like, no, I need more.

[Oscar]

And they were so young at the time, too. So, like, right out of college or in college almost. Right. Because they were doing it while they started it when they were in college.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think Alex Uber just said she just turned 30. I was like, damn. Okay.

[Oscar]

Young Sophia's 31. Oh, she's my age. She was. Oh, she's July 21st, 1992.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Are you guys, like.

[Oscar]

I think we're a week apart.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. That's so young. So five years ago. You're 26. Yeah.

[Oscar]

I sound like. Yeah. Can't really blame her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel. I do feel bad for her. It would be awful. And to, like, not find that same success after. And it's like, that happens. Remember Brian Seacrest and Brian Dunkleman? It's giving that from season one of American Idol. What happened to him? I wonder what his story was. Did he leave for more pay? He probably got fired.

[Oscar]

So funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then Ryan Seacrest is now just, like, everywhere, doing everything, and that would suck.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. It says Brian Dunkelman felt American Idol was not a good fit for him, and ultimately he quit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Oscar]

Oh. He later revealed he'd been dealing with depression and had personal struggles. Oh. Following his departure. Okay, this is making sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah. You left the biggest show ever, then. Ryan Seacrest is literally everywhere, doing everything. Has his own production company, radio show, New Year's Eve. Like, Ryan and Kelly, the radio. Like, just everything. What else? Is he a real fortune now, I think.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like, what a line that Macy's. A line of suits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that.

[Oscar]

I had to promote those. And I worked for him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Oh, that's right. I forgot to write Secrets Lore. Did you like them?

[Oscar]

I honestly didn't. Didn't interact with him that much weirdly.

[Trisha Paytas]

What about the suits?

[Oscar]

Oh, I honestly don't even think I would. Finding influences like I had to connect with influencers like promote the suits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who did it? Who did it?

[Oscar]

The rose.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that paid off to be your friend though. I love that they look good enough.

[Oscar]

I think so. I mean they're just like Macy suits but I don't think exists anymore. But at the time, yeah, it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it doesn't exist.

[Oscar]

I don't think he does it anymore. At the time it was his big like focus of like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah. Being Macy's is everything that's just comes in with their shoes. It's like everything that's like the goal in life is to get something like that ran sequence was everything I do like him kind of annoying. Was he kind of annoying in real life? Irl.

[Oscar]

I just really did not interact with him that much. He was. Whenever I did interact with them, it was very short. It was like like okay, bye.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like social. It was like you did a social media.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were like Jake Shane and hacks.

[Oscar]

T. But Jake Shane interacted with Deborah Vance. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

I would mostly go to. He has like a. The president of Ryan Seacrest, whatever it was. And then I would mostly report to her and like get things approved by her. And Ryan was very like minimal.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was your title?

[Oscar]

You know, maybe like social media manager or something. I don't even remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy to have like people work for you and you like don't have like direct interaction with them. That's so weird to me. I like it though. I like that because I love the idea of having like an assistant but I don't want to interact with them. Kind of Moses, be the liaison.

[Oscar]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pretty much what happens anyways.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. I always book people. I get. I really do have anxiety. If anyone watching that works with me. Like I actually do have anxiety.

[Oscar]

Like yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hide any chance I get.

[Moses Hacmon]

If someone comes over, there's a new project, even if she says it's her project, she's going to do it. I know I'm going to do it. So that's why I'm like, okay, we gotta fit it into the schedule somehow. Cuz I'm gonna be the one doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't do it. I don't know what it is. It's actually like really bad lately. I just like can't interact with people. I'm very like Nervous all the time. I don't know. I think I'm also just like ugly right now. I'm in my ugly era and I just feel really gross and I feel like a troll coming out to see people and.

[Moses Hacmon]

But every time people see you, they have beautiful you look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who has said that?

[Moses Hacmon]

Every person that sees you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who? Tell me someone lately who's told me you look so beautiful. Beautiful.

[Moses Hacmon]

Every person that sees you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lizzo Dead why was I'm glam. Of course I look beautiful. But you see me in the everyday. No one is.

[Moses Hacmon]

You don't see anyone, can only do so much. It's not like you're glam. You're a different person. You're the same person. No, same nose and mouths and eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And eyes and we were out yesterday. No one saw me beautiful because there was nobody there. We had our waitress, we had the owner come over to us. He was chit chatting. The owner was just like.

[Oscar]

Like why don't I feel like they don't want to say exactly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who would say that? They'll be like, excuse me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I want to know who tells me pretty. Cuz no one calls me pretty.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, usually the girls like, you know, if it's like the people that have organized people, they call me pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do not call me pretty. When they tell me they said Trish are so pretty. Yeah, I don't believe that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I always look people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hide. I do hide because I look like a toad. I.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're so cute whenever like if we walk in, wherever we see people, fans, their first reaction is like, wow, it's so pretty in real life. And this is like you just you with nothing on.

[Trisha Paytas]

You shout out to our AE organizers. I love them, but I do. They are beautiful, beautiful girls. And I'm a troll. So I do try to hide sometimes.

[Oscar]

You were like this at the end of your pregnancy last year too.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so. I know it's awful. I really. That's why I was late today. I literally couldn't find anything. I literally was like, I don't want to be on camera today. It's really, it's really awful. It messes with me this last. This last month for sure. I feel very just like. Like I should be hyping.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean it's. It's pregnancy and it's beautiful. And like she go to the grocery store, people follow her. Like there's something about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, those are weird men.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but, but all I'm saying is like you're at that stage where like the Pregnancy is like, everything about your body right now is the pregnancy. And it just. It feels different, but at the same time, people see it. Like, all the comments. I read the comments, they're all like, trisha is glowing. Trisha.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I did go to the grocery yesterday with a big belly, and this guy kept following me in the chabot. I was trying to record TikTok. You'll see the TikTok soon. And he, like, standing there talking to me about how beautiful my belly looks and how beautiful. Someone literally came up to you, but he's like, your arms are so beautiful. I wish they were around me. And I was like, can you leave? I'm doing a tick tock in the chip.

[Oscar]

You want to be sexual astronaut? You're sending me. You want the Olive Garden manager to sexually harass you, but not this man.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, hey, I'm looking beautiful today. Great. Keep it moving. That your belly. I want to worship if I wish those big arms were around me. I was like, what? That's not being beautiful. That's being weird.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's being irresistible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

See? So you were a weird person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not like. And I'm not being anything but that guy was weird and he was having a lot of issues.

[Oscar]

And I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Moses Hacmon]

So, no, I just like, pregnancy is beautiful. And a lot of people like, a lot of people that watch us, they're pregnant too. And they're like, you know, they don't want to think that they look like, well, it's beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

For the first 36 weeks, the last four weeks, just warning everybody, be prepared to feel not beautiful. Even my doctor yesterday was like, oh, you're pretty swollen. I'm like, I think that's just my feet. I think my feet are just like that. Like, they don't fit into any shoes. Hence why I'm not wearing shoes. I'm not showing them now because they're small.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's the end of the brain.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were, like, sticking out of my sandals. I was like, oh, my gosh. I was like, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And remember, even after you give birth, there's like, actually, like, your body swells even more.

[Trisha Paytas]

It hurts. It actually hurts. The swollenness. It hurts so bad. But that's why I'm hiding from everybody. If you want to know. Thank God for Moses. I'm like, go. Can you talk to everybody? Because I can't. But I had Moses take an unflattering video of me yesterday because I was so ugly. And I was like, can you just take a picture of me being like, ugly here with the kids.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I wasn't even. Nothing about it was ugly.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. It was bad. I actually deleted it because I was like, oh, I don't like it because I posted on TikTok and I deleted it because it was a trend. It's like a trend like you before pregnancy versus you after having kids. And it's always like, people looking like supermodels and then after having kids, just looking disheveled. And I love that trend. I think it's like, oh, it's very real. It was too real for me. When I saw the angle of me, like, laying on the couch with them, I was like, but you're also.

[Oscar]

Why are they people doing it? Pregnant, two weeks. Like, Jesus.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right. You're right. I need to be nicer. Everyone is beautiful pregnant. Not me.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, that how we got there, I don't know.

[Oscar]

But parenting Hot Topic that. I am interested to get your take on that. So Kylie Jenner got roasted by Stormy for, like, her iconic King Kylie era, which I'm sure Stormy at one day will grow up and realize it really was. It was the moment, you know, the blue. The blue hair and the red dress. The red. Yeah, the blue hair. The red dress. But even like, I remember she had like a King Kylie calendar because this was like Pete Kylie cosmetics, like, when the craze was insane. And then she had like, the pop up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember extensions with Bella. Yeah. Huh?

[Oscar]

The lollipops. That. That was the Las Vegas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Sugar Factory.

[Oscar]

Yeah, Sugar Factory lollipops. Like, King Carly was it.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was definitely the girl for sure.

[Oscar]

And yes, Stormy was reading her. She said, a blue wig with a red outfit, not a good combo.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. First of all, I never had seen that picture. And she was right. That was crazy because she did look good in the air. But I was like, why was she wearing it with the red? It was crazy. She called it. She cocked it well.

[Oscar]

It just made me think, like, what eras do you think Malibu will think are wild like Malibu? Like when she's like 10, looking at the pride wig with the orange dress, yellow with the rainbow Birkin, I feel like she'll live for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she'll live for every era. She is currently in the King Tut era. She. We have a video we should send to Jimmy. She goes, she does it in the face. Yes. It's the cutest thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Funny. Like, she suddenly when they did it and I was like, I quickly filmed it. I sent it to her. Where did she Learn that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And now she does it to be cute, like, at dinner. She'll do it, and she does. It's the king touch. She loves it. And I showed her a video from last year where she was in it for, like, just, like, a second, and she, like, just started dancing. She started dancing from it, and I was like, wow. She's like, so. So I think she'll embrace every era.

[Oscar]

Maybe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe the lost era.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she'll love it. That's when we were pregnant with her.

[Moses Hacmon]

She'll be like, this is like, the bald. Maybe the job.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think she's gonna be that girl, like, for Halloween. She's gonna also want to be, like. Like, Breaking Bad or something crazy. You know what I mean? Just some, like, weird Halloween costume. I think she'll embrace the weirdness. I think maybe. No, I think she'll break all the weird.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's funny because she's. She's almost like. She's a prankster, and. Yeah. Like, she'll. She'll do things just to kind of, like, prank you and funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is a prankster. And she loves. She also loves our cosplays. Like, anytime, like, there's a cosplay. I think I showed her a picture of Moses as Jeep, and she was like, daddy. She loves all of it. Plus, she dresses up in crazy things all the time. She'll wear that wig if she wants. She always puts on weird outfits, which I love and I embrace and I love it so much. But, yeah, so she gets it. She gets everything. Maybe a 10, maybe she won't. I'm sure at a certain age, she'll be cringe. I'm hoping to scrub the Internet by the time she's 10. There's so many things I would love scrub, so I'm not gonna even put out what I don't want her to see, but. But hopefully she won't ever see anything.

[Oscar]

That is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder. Yeah. How she saw, like, Stormy, how she saw the looks just like on Google. Or someone showed.

[Oscar]

I thought. I thought Kylie showed it to her. Yeah. So Kylie was going through the photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love the idea of, like, your daughter, though, like, clocking you. Like, I do love that. But, like, mom, that's crazy.

[Oscar]

I think they do get to the age, because even, like, north was. Was. When north got to a certain age, she was always giving Kim a hard time. Oh. Like in Covid, when Kim had to lock herself in a bathroom to do her makeup, and then north is, like, banging in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Why are you trying to be Away from me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's actually so true. Or when she was doing the Met gala, and she's like, those pearls look cheap.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

The designer right there, just standing there, he's like, these are not cheap. And you just tell adults that don't have kids or just don't. Just don't know how to interact. He was just like, ah, they're not cheap. But also like, who's this little kid? You know? Yeah, I think they keep you humble. One thing I've already learned is they keep you humble, and they also teach you a lot of patience. Oh, my gosh. I never had patience before. Malibu. But she will just stand at the bottom of the stairs for, like, 20 minutes before she comes up. I'm like, we gotta go up. We gotta go up. She does not want to go up. And I'm just like. And there's just nothing you can do about it. There's just not. I guess you could grab her, but I can't even, like, a lifter anymore because I'm, like, so weak these days. But they do keep you. They do keep you grounded, that's for sure. They keep you humble. Speaking of Kardashians skims this Friday, Robert Roberto Cavalli collaboration dropping. I fear I won't get it. I'm so excited because it's like, the Dolce one was like, the leopard one they did, like, a year ago, and I like. They sold out of my size. So skims. I would love a PR package because I never get my size, but they're dropping this week. I love. I do love a Kardashian. I'm not gonna lie. I kind of like them. Them. Who was it? They showed a. Who was in the news? Was it Kourtney Kardashian? Oh, you know what I said? No, it was on Tick Tock. It was. Did you ever see that? This is, like, not really, like, a current hot topic, but the O.J. simpson, I think it was, Ryan Murphy show. It had, like, Cooper Gooding Jr. As O.J.

[Oscar]

I didn't watch it, but I remember it. And Sarah Paulson was the. The lawyer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, right. And then David Schwimmer was Robert Kardashian. And that clip popped up where he's, like, having lunch with all the kids as, like, little Kardashians. And how he's like, you know, it's better to do the right thing than to be famous. And, like, money's not everything. It was so interesting. And I was like, I wonder if this is an actual conversation he had with the kids or if this was just made up because he's like, you know, uncle Juice is a good guy, and we're gonna, like, get him off and all this stuff like that. And then the kids were just like, I don't know. I was like, I wonder if that's, like, a real life conversation they had, because they're like, well, well, our mom's famous, but what are you famous for? Because he said he was gonna. Oh, that's what it was. Robert Kardashian said he was gonna be interviewed by Diane Sawyer. And they were just, like, trying to figure out why he was famous. And then they were like, mommy's sad because, like, Uncle Juice killed Nicole or something. And then he's like, no, Uncle Juice wouldn't do that. And then they were all like, but. And then they were so excited about their fame, and he's like, it's not all about being famous. And then they became, like, the most famous people ever. Well, you think they had that conversation?

[Oscar]

I don't know how historically accurate that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is, but I would like to.

[Oscar]

It makes good for it. Makes a good episode. I guess it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was like, why did they even have that scene? It was so weird because it had. I mean, that's kind of sad to, like, throw them in the little O.J. case.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I guess it did lay the groundwork for Kim to be in the Ryan Murphy universe. Right? That was before she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that was a very long they. Right.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I guess she didn't care.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because now she's BFS with Ryan Murphy. I guess now she's going to be in the new Bratz movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw that Bratz DM'd me, too. They're like, we want to send you something. We have a very exclusive doll we want to send you. I'm down.

[Oscar]

I thought you said they were gonna DM me to be in the movie. I was like, whoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, maybe it starts with sending me a doll. And there. And then I saw the Kim Kardashian being in the Bratz movie. See it? You think they cgi? Oh, I guess they looked like the brats when they dressed like them last, what, two Halloweens ago or last Halloween?

[Oscar]

Oh, I forgot they did that since the brats. Yeah. I mean, there was a Bratz movie already. The Bratz style is kind of fierce. And, like, I love when they make a little brat for, like, you buy those. The celebs?

[Trisha Paytas]

The Kylie one? Yeah, we bought all the Kylie. I was obsessed with the Kylie.

[Oscar]

Didn't Carol.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it Carol G. She did a regular one. Did she do a mini one?

[Oscar]

The regular one? Regular one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I loved her. Oh, the KLG one, like, sold out so fast.

[Oscar]

But you know when they make the little Instagrams of like the like they'll do at the after. I think after the VMAs, they did chapel roans. Like VMAs. Look. Oh, no. I think they're just like our like, renderings or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that brat.

[Oscar]

So everyone does love a brat.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love a brat.

[Oscar]

And I think after Barbie they probably like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, that and Monster High they need to redo too, because those Monster.

[Oscar]

High movies, getting a new, like a new actual movie as well. Like a theater movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's in it?

[Oscar]

They haven't. Cassidy. I think they just picked the director or writer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's the director?

[Oscar]

Let me see. It just got announced like a week ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Everyone's doing doll movies now. Honestly.

[Oscar]

Tea? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Okay. Polly Pocket.

[Oscar]

Oh, the director of Megan is doing Monster High. That's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's why the collab. The Monster High. Megan, collect.

[Oscar]

You just unlock synergy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love a synergy. What's his name?

[Oscar]

Gerard Johnston. Johnstone. Gerard Johnstone. From one doll movie to another doll movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I love it. I love it.

[Oscar]

Okay, so between Brats and Monster High, I feel like you have a good chance of getting in one of these doll movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love which one is more iconic.

[Oscar]

Maybe Monster partial to Monster High. But I do love both. I do love both.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I do love Bratz too. I just feel like Bratz is like too cool. So I give Monster High it feels a little more niche.

[Oscar]

It is like the. The outcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love a Monster High look. Okay. I love that so much. Yeah, I would love to be. But do you think they're like doll movies or you think they're like real people?

[Oscar]

I think this is like a live action. Oh, no. Confirmed. It is a live action.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I love it. When will they come out?

[Oscar]

I think they're just in pre production right now. Bratz is not even confirmed. Kim is just in talks to be the villain, which.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute. I thought she was gonna be like one of the Bratz doll, which I think is cute.

[Oscar]

Gonna be the a rumored to be the villain.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. She's really in her acting era. You think it's because Ryan Murphy. Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she good? I don't even know. I don't know if I watched her or anything.

[Oscar]

Everything I've seen her in, she just seems like she's Kim Self.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but I guess it's enough to sell.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I guess it's enough. You know who ate down was Kourtney Kardashian in the Addison Rain movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Courtney and Addison, but that was not it. That was giving the weekend and Hurry up Tomorrow, which I love. But also it was. It was camp, which is bad, right? Like, that was. That was so awkward. But that's probably how I'd be acting, too. I shouldn't even say anything. That's probably me acting. Courtney. Yeah. Courtney is definitely herself all the time. Like, she always is. Just. Well, I guess she played herself in the movie, right? Was she Kourtney Kardashian?

[Oscar]

No, she was Jessica.

[Trisha Paytas]

Play herself because she went.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she not an influencer?

[Oscar]

She was like a. Wasn't she, like, a CEO? Like she ran some kind of business and then she was somebody. Yeah, yeah. She made her brand look bad. Like, Addison, her character was like, an influencer for a brand. And then she had, like, a snot bubble when she was promoting it or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gotta rewatch it because I love that movie. Was every. Wasn't Matthew Lillard in it?

[Oscar]

Like, I think you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

At the end with Rachel Lee Cook.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, that's everything.

[Oscar]

Tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gotta rewatch.

[Oscar]

That was fierce. That was fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was so good. Addison doing everything right. I really, really loved that movie. She ever do a movie after that besides Thanksgiving? Like, a Netflix deal where she was.

[Oscar]

Getting, like, she was supposed to. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And nothing came game?

[Oscar]

I don't think so. I guess she just did to. Oh, yeah. Maybe it's an.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or maybe she got too popular. I can't do this right now.

[Oscar]

I think she also, like, re Examined because she had a big deal with, like, I Heart Radio. Like, she was supposed to do a lot of, like, performances when, like, Obsessed came out, like, obsessed with me. So I took a second and I said, me, too. That song is still easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, her songs always do.

[Oscar]

But she was supposed to, like, do, like, a lot of, like, I Heart, like, performances and stuff. But she also, like, canceled all that because she wasn't happy with what she was doing. And actually for Netflix, too. She wanted to take, like, more acting classes and stuff before she gave it another go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So she put a pause. Maybe she was like, okay, let's pause it.

[Oscar]

Give it to her, Addison. Because she always, like, she. People are hard on her, but I think she does at least find the constructive criticism, and she does put in the work to put in a good product.

[Trisha Paytas]

As she said on The Quinn Blackwell series. She's like, people say I try too hard and she. I wish you would just try because we can see that you're not. And I do love that. I do love that so much because that's so true. People will be like, oh my gosh, she's trying too hard. She's trying this. How would you try it all, Honestly?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Wouldn't you rather have someone try and like work and put an effort into the image and the product that they're trying to put out there versus like just like resting on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Period. She eats.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love her. I think she could be in the next Jurassic World. I would love to see her in a movie like that. Like a block.

[Oscar]

She is a good like horror actress.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh for sure.

[Oscar]

Thanksgiving.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. She was. What was it? I think it was the Amelia chicken shop date where she was like screaming.

[Oscar]

Screaming.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was so iconic because she just did it too. I love that she go. I love when people just go for it. Cuz she's an actor. She's like, I can't do it right now on cue. But she just did it. She went for it.

[Oscar]

Especially like singers because a lot of the time when you ask them, they're like my voice, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

The real ones though, as we've learned on this podcast, the true ones, they are like ready anytime.

[Oscar]

The vocalist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It is crazy when I think about all the people who have sang with me. I'm like, they're all very top tier, you know what I mean? Where they could be like, come buy a ticket. I'm not doing that on command. But they all were down to do it. Love it so much. That's me. Ask me anytime and I'll sing with you. I'm a vocalist over here. I love it.

[Oscar]

A lot of devote or breakup news, I should say. Obviously we talked about on Patreon, the. The speculation about like Katy Perry and Orlando. Now it's all pretty much confirmed something like that. TMZ is the one that like confirmed it and again, they're pretty right.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can't confirm something until they say it because how do you actually know?

[Oscar]

I guess sources and it depends on.

[Trisha Paytas]

The source and who's the sources. Like that's. I would get down to them, be like who the F was talking about us? Like, you know what I mean? Like you think it's Katy Perry being like.

[Oscar]

I think. Think if they didn't put out a rebuttal that the source is probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. That's kind of scary. Like who is talking about me?

[Oscar]

Well, usually, like, depending on who is, who is reporting, like, TMZ usually has pretty good sources that come from like, you know, that celebrity's camp or whatever. Like, usually when TMZ gets like Kardashian news, it's usually like, like someone really accurate. Yeah, yeah. Because like, Chris has a good relationship with tmz.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, but that makes sense. Like there's someone like, corresponding with them. I don't correspond with them at all. I didn't have to email me. They email my accountant. They email everybody. Tmz. Like, any word on like Trisha Paytas being pregnant the Pope?

[Oscar]

Are they source report like putting breaking Trisha Paytas news?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like they must because they do. They, they. They call Moses, they call my dad, they email my accountant, they email me. I'm like, is it that important to get like this? Like, no. And we never respond, but yet they put out the article. And I'm like, okay. And it's so silly. Like, that's what I'm saying. TMZ to me seems like the National Enquirer because it's always like, Trisha Paytas pregnant, the Pope. Do you have a comment?

[Oscar]

They usually they. So with tmz, there is very low. A low morality bar, I guess. Like they were the ones to post about Kobe Bryant's death. Like before Vanessa Bryant even knew. Oh, so the morality bar is low. Like it's story first. Ethics kind of in my opinion, ethics on the second or like sensitivity second. I guess I should say like, so because they have sources like in like LAPD and stuff. Like they have. They just have a lot of sources, but they're not usually wrong. Wrong if that makes sense. Because they have so many sources.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think they're very wrong about the Pope being reincarnated because, like, what.

[Oscar]

The hell was it TMZ confirms or was it just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I think it was on the TMZ website.

[Oscar]

The head. Like, it makes a lot of. Because they post random be like, who's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hotter in a bikini?

[Oscar]

Alex Cooper. Alex. Like, they post a lot of unserious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Saying. They reported on that. Like, that seems not accurate or newsworthy, but okay.

[Oscar]

But so yeah, what it usually is like TMZ can confirm then usually they have like a sour. That's like close to whoever. And the fact that like Katy Perry or Atlanta Bloom never like, because that's such a like defamatory statement if it was false. So the fact that they didn't be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, don't you want to put out Something first. If they knew the story was coming out, what did you think they wanted?

[Oscar]

I kind of think it's been the soft launch of the breakup because we talked about too. Like, it's been like, a couple weeks of, like, random articles, random source reporting. Like, there was a People magazine article, like, two weeks ago, and that was, like, the first time, I think. I guess there was speculation, but that was, like, the first time I ever heard of it. And the fact that People was the one to report it, I was like, oh, I guess it must be true.

[Moses Hacmon]

I knew about it for a long time now.

[Trisha Paytas]

How?

[Oscar]

Media sources.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Who's your source?

[Moses Hacmon]

Sources.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's your sources?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but the rumors about it were out for a long time, so I know, maybe. Maybe they're getting ahead of the story by putting it out there. Like, okay, it's official, but were they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just together at something? I swear they were just together at an event.

[Oscar]

It's a while ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I can confirm when I met Katy Perry on the set of the big hit, what was it called? Woman's World. When I was on Women's World, Katie talked highly of Orlando. She was like, oh, he's. She's so in love.

[Oscar]

Wasn't that a year ago?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Can that much change in a year? I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe. Maybe he did something wrong. I mean, she loves him, but he did something wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

That always on tour, too. I saw someone on Twitter be like, these men who break up with Katy Perry while they're on tour is disgusting.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like, it's either when they're pregnant or on tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so true. Oh, my God. Could you. I can even imagine. Obviously, my tour is not like the Katy Perry tour, but if I was waiting for a weekend and Moses was like, actually, we're breaking up. Even if it was like her wanting to break up, it's still, like, the wrong time to do it. Like, why are you doing it on tour? Like, we're already up apart. Do we need to break up right now? You think he was seeing someone else? Maybe. Or someone was seeing someone else. Maybe she was. I don't know. Who knows?

[Oscar]

Well, People magazine said that a lot of the tension came when her album 143 was underperforming and the Lifetime Store was getting poor reviews. They said Katie was deeply frustrated following the reception of her new album. It made her very stressed. Orlando was understanding, but it did cause some tension. And that was on June 9th.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so she flopped. And he's like, we're breaking up. That's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's through health and sickness, but not if your album doesn't do well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone said that. Someone's like, maybe he just listened to 143 and was like, ugh, no, that is crazy. Well, maybe.

[Oscar]

June 10, page six claimed that their relationship is pretty much over. But he. They are just waiting till the tour is over before they announce the split. And then there was another article. Yeah, there's tears like People magazine, pretty reputable. But then Page Six, and then this one is the Sun. That said the Blue Origin trip also tainted their their relationship.

[Trisha Paytas]

The sun is the worst, they said.

[Oscar]

From day one, Orlando didn't think going on Blue, the Blue Origin mission was a good idea. And he knew she would face backlash. He always thought it was a stupid idea and she wouldn't get anything positive out of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. Are you really gonna divorce over that?

[Moses Hacmon]

I have a child making up stuff like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. He seems like the problem to me.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm going to say, like, I don't think a reporter called and he would tell them, like, I thought it was a stupid idea. She said, did they confirm?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that a confirmed source is confirmed.

[Oscar]

The sun had a source that said that. But again, there's like levels, like when people are tmz, it's like they have really good sources. But then, you know, other, like the Sun, a lot of the times it's not the most reputable.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think he's just jealous she made it to space before he did.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. Jealousy comes in because again, we loved Orlando bloom back in 2003 when Pirates of the Caribbean came out. But has anyone heard from him since I'm dead?

[Oscar]

And also they talked about Orlando going to the Jeff Bezos wedding.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar]

That's why I saw it solo. And TMZ said he's the life of the party and he's going to hit the dance floor hard, a source said. I think that hasn't even happened. Adding that 90% of the people at the wedding are kind of boring, but 10% are really fun, including Orlando, Leo and Jeff Bezos. It's going to be a great party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so he wants to. He wants to go meet someone new at this party, I think at this wedding.

[Oscar]

Wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's it at? Where's this wedding happening?

[Oscar]

It's in Venice, Italy. Italy?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, down the street. I'm like, let's go.

[Moses Hacmon]

They had to move it because there's a lot of protest against the wedding. I think it's like $48 million wedding.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that's. That's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, for a billionaire it's not even.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get that. But maybe in this economy do an eight million dollar wedding, all right.

[Moses Hacmon]

So that people are protesting it. So they had to actually move the wedding venue to a different location.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do they know where it was? Lake Como? That where everyone gets married?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, it's such a big wedding. They knew and they were gonna inflate crocodiles and put into the canals.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because the guests were supposed to come on the canals on boats and things and they were.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean inflate crocodile rails?

[Moses Hacmon]

Just throw them into the canal so they're floating there with the guests, you know, like.

[Oscar]

So it ruined the. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why don't you just put real ones in there if you're trying to ruin it? Florida, throw them in there. It's 48 million or. Because that's them.

[Moses Hacmon]

Him. Yeah. There's a lot of people protest anything Jeff Bezos does. And it's such a lavish wedding.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you're also that like rich and famous. It's like, why do you need a flaunt it? Do you know what I mean? Because also it's just like scary. I'm like, of course people are going to hate you for being rich and stuff. I'd just be like, let me just hide. Let me not show.

[Moses Hacmon]

He doesn't like, he's the most flaunting. I mean, he made a spaceship that looks like a penis to go to space, you know, she's like, very.

[Trisha Paytas]

He should have a lot of security. But even then it doesn't sound like it's working. If they had to remove venues, well.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe because of that, to tighten security and be less accessible.

[Trisha Paytas]

My God, they need a chill. That's about. There's second or third weddings, I think, cuz they met while they were both married. I read.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is interesting. If you get married twice, do you get a second? Do you get a big wedding the second time?

[Oscar]

My parents didn't. They had it in our backyard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, my mom too. My mom. I think my mom had one in the backyard, now that I think about it. Were you there? Were you born or not yet?

[Oscar]

I don't think I was yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, the timeline. The timelines get murky. Well, I was thinking about this too. When I was talking the other day to somebody, I was just like, I don't know. This timeline, now that I think about it, like my sister's age, my age. I'm like, I don't really know.

[Oscar]

I think my mom was pregnant, but early on they did that back in.

[Trisha Paytas]

The day, they get married. I think my mom did that with my sister's dad.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, let's maybe get married. Six months later someone's born, you're like, oh, okay, that makes sense. It's not funny how they, how that's so different now. Like back then they were like, we.

[Oscar]

Have to get married out of wedlock or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And it's like, like now it's. I like it better now where people are like, we don't necessarily have to get married. Granted, like I said, a baby's a bigger commitment than a wedding. But it is funny how they just thought like, I wonder what they thought, like why they had to get married. Like, what was the point? I think God or people.

[Oscar]

Probably both, I would think.

[Trisha Paytas]

But okay, they're like, we have to, otherwise we're going to hell. Or it's like, we have to, otherwise people will talk.

[Oscar]

Probably both.

[Moses Hacmon]

I just remember from all the movies, they don't like, we don't want to the people to call the child a bastard.

[Oscar]

And oh, what were we just watching Game of Thrones? Well, what like Jon Snow is like the bastard Jon Snow, cuz his dad had him out of an affair.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who was his dad?

[Oscar]

The. The Stark guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

But it was a different mom who lost his head. But he was like the bastard. He wasn't like the. One of the real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's very Joe Bania.

[Oscar]

Oh, kinda. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't people call him. I know, I corrected myself or my sister did. I was calling him, oh, illegitimate child. She goes, you can't call someone illegitimate. He's a legitimate person. Yeah, but I always heard why the bastard's crazy. That's a crazy one. Didn't Philip DeFranco used to call his fans bastards?

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you remember?

[Oscar]

He's like, hey, beautiful, beautiful bastards.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh my. Okay. Philip Franco fan over there. He would say that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I just remember it cuz it's so ridiculous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why did we all watch film defranco back in the day?

[Oscar]

That's.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was the news source five years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. He still gets views, huh? He's not someone I'd go to for news. But he is becoming like a news anchor on YouTube.

[Oscar]

I haven't. I watched him during the. I, Justine. Like, that was my. That was one era for me. Like I, Justine. Philip DeFranco. Who else? I don't even remember. Winter Spring Pro. Pro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Winter Spring Pro. Philip DeFranco should have been at the hall of Fame. He's Been out of this so long.

[Oscar]

You're so right.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's been around very long time. He's made money, he's had production.

[Oscar]

Still very popular.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, right. How did we get there? Oh, we were talking about the bastards. I was like, yeah, right. Okay, well, I didn't know Jon Snow was. Who did. Who was his mom.

[Oscar]

I forget. I just know everyone called him the bastard Jon Snow, so I forget which parent was what.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny. And then nowadays it's like no one gets married, which is like fine, but no one gets married. And it was such a big deal back in the day. H. All right, well, second weddings, I don't know. I. I don't know. Probably. Maybe.

[Oscar]

I don't think a 46 million dollar wedding is ever the key.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, maybe he's getting sponsored by Domino's or sponsored by Amazon.

[Oscar]

The boo Boo vending machine. Remy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Could you imagine Remy Ashen at the wedding? I would go, if I was invited, maybe, or I don't know, maybe not.

[Oscar]

No, you got to stick it to the man. Be like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why, why don't we like him? He's homophobic or what? Get. I'm down to stick it to him, but I need to know the cause. Where are we writing?

[Moses Hacmon]

Just Amazon's practices.

[Oscar]

God, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really? But everyone orders from Amazon.

[Oscar]

I know, but that's kind of the problem.

[Moses Hacmon]

But they do a lot of shady stuff.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like.

[Moses Hacmon]

And the way they treat their employees.

[Oscar]

Like there's a lot of stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you keep ordering from Amazon. I see Amazon packages coming up.

[Moses Hacmon]

What? One shirt in a month?

[Trisha Paytas]

The organizing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, that's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, the shirts. Wait, first of all, you're Amazon's number one fan over there with all the shirts you get from them. You love an Amazon.

[Oscar]

I don't love an Amazon, but I do order from Amazon. Yes, that's. They kind of have the monopoly, though. That's kind of the problem.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do we do?

[Oscar]

It's hard to. It's hard to be Amazon small businesses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? That's the answer?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, because. Because sometimes they'll. Because they have all the statistics. So let's say somebody. Let's say you make a product, you go on Amazon on, you sell a lot of products. That's great. But then what they'll do is they'll create the same product and sell it for a cheaper price and get you out of business.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Shady.

[Moses Hacmon]

So, you know, this is all kind of things.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if we're gonna be able to stop this one this feels like Goliath and we're David T. Yeah.

[Oscar]

That is the problem. Yeah. That's why you can't go to the wedding. You got that lease, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I can't have billions of dollars. The most successful, you know, e commerce site and Trish Paytas, you gotta.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true, that's true. He's probably not paying anyone to go either. Maybe he paid me, but I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why is there a bloom going. Why do you think these people go? They just want to be around the rich and the famous, I think.

[Oscar]

I guess they're friends or used, you know, loosely. But there are a lot of parks, I guess. I guess. But isn't it like the pre wedding is like a week long on that yacht with like the foam party? I think that's. I think that's what's happening. Yeah, that's. That's what's been happening before the wedding. They have like a week long like pre wedding thing. Thing, party thing on this like multi million dollar yacht and they're having like a foam party on the yacht.

[Trisha Paytas]

That seems.

[Oscar]

It gives me, what's it, spring break? Austin McBroom. It gives me Austin McBroom College.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like who did a phone party? I was like, that does seem. Who did it? Was it Austin?

[Oscar]

Someone did a orgy on the yacht. Right. That's what Catherine said.

[Trisha Paytas]

And call her daddy on the yacht.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well that was the one I got trouble about if it was consensual or not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, where the makeup artist. The young blonde makeup artist.

[Moses Hacmon]

Whole story happened on the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Holy. But his dad was there, right? Like wasn't the dad.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Was covering for him allegedly or whatever. According to Catherine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, I gotta read her book. When's that coming out? July it.

[Oscar]

She just did a book signing at the Grove. So I feel like is it out?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. The Grove. So there must be. I gotta go. We should have gone. I didn't know I would have gone.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I followed the Barnes and Noble Grove cuz Cat ey is doing a signing there and I was like oh maybe and it sold out. So I was like maybe if I just comment on everything they post they'll invite me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel like you have it in. How sold out? How is it sold out?

[Oscar]

The cat's eye me cuz they can't go on forever. Yeah. So damn. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll figure out a way. We love you, cat's eye. Well, you're kind of friends with them now. You kind of Know that you're they.

[Oscar]

My is a. Is a Trisha fan, so I get.

[Trisha Paytas]

Scared to reach out, especially when they're popular. You never know if they're being polite.

[Oscar]

But Mano would, like, just post about you, like, randomly. So I think she.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll reach out to her. I would love to see you sometime soon. Me with Rachel Zegler. Like, let me know.

[Oscar]

Yeah, just reply to one of her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, stories or something to be better. I get really intimidated by very pretty girls. I really do. I get intimidated by people in our house, much less the Olive Garden people. I get intimidated by them. I get very, very nervous. But I will try and follow up. Okay. No Jeff Bezos wedding. That's this weekend?

[Oscar]

I think so. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd rather go to Rooster Miashin's wedding if I'm gonna.

[Oscar]

Honestly, A million.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That looks so much funner.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's, like, fun. The vibes seem amazing. It, like, it was obviously a grand wedding, but not, like, too excessive where it's, like, obnoxious. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like a small company. You know what I mean? She's not Amazon. She's not like, yeah, Ollie's in good work conditions. You know what I mean? He's not getting. You know what I mean? I feel like she is good to her people around her.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She works hard. We see her hustle.

[Oscar]

Uhhuh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love to see how. Oh, Brand. How did she make money anyway? Sorry. People are making her so obsessed. I would just think that, like, people who have so much money, I'm just like, how. How do they make so much crazy?

[Oscar]

Another speculated breakup is Justin Bieber and Haley Bieber.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, I.

[Oscar]

Again, it's another obviously, like, a source reporting, and this one is kind of dicey.

[Trisha Paytas]

No TMZ source report.

[Oscar]

It was not a TMZ reporting. No. But according to an insider who spoke at an outlet that I will not mention, the pair are, quote, unquote, struggling in their marriage and Justin has been, quote, irritated by Haley. The source said Justin has been getting irritated easily and feels like Haley can be superficial about the way the relationship looks in the public eye way. Justin's lack of motivation has been upsetting for Haley and her friends, but they think they can salvage their marriage and they both want that, but right now things are not good. So. Yeah. And now there has been, like, from Justin, a lot of really cryptic Instagram posts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Always been the case.

[Oscar]

True. But they have been like, extra lately.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, I'm leaving Haley Bieber.

[Oscar]

He said There was one caption on Instagram. Oh, no. He reposted a video of a person that said, if you're giving me the science treatment, at least tell me why. So that's why people are kind of, like, looking into, like, what he's posting. I think he also reposted, like, an interview clip where he was talking highly about, like, Selena Gomez, like, when they were dating, like, calling her a hot mamacita.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes. Watching Love Island. Mamacita.

[Oscar]

So he's been posting a lot. And then there was, like, one paparazzi photo of Haley without her wedding ring. But, you know, that happens to you sometimes. Like, you just. Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And then after that, Haley posted, like, the five mirror selfies with, like, her and her wedding ring was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was like, she's trying to keep it alive. Like, we're okay. I'm sorry. He was not. If he was his lingo mess, I'd.

[Oscar]

Be like, especially after the unfollowing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Could you manage, like, post one of my ex boyfriends just, like. Like, us in a vlog together or something? I'd be like, what the hell? Oh, my God, that's so crazy. I would. Oh, my God. I would. I would go in. I would be like, you're done. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

Well, that's your friend. You're supposed to be. You're supposed to be reaching out to. Don't post about Selena. Justin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Hopefully he watches sometimes. I think maybe if he watches, I'd be like, yeah, that's not, like, a good idea. That's dubious. That's mean. I feel like now I actually feel bad for Haley.

[Oscar]

I love Justin, but me, I know I do feel for her because she. He just posts a lot, and then a lot of it could just be very empty. Like, you know, not thinking things through, just reposting things.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's giving, like, ominous vibes a little bit, though.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A little sad about it. I'm always just like. I feel like no one's, like, helping him. And this doesn't help. Like, all of this doesn't help. Like, people talking about him and so, like, it's like, why is no one, like, close to him helping him?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, you signed that previous set of posts like a friend was trying to true. Call him out, and he immediately, like, just lashed at them. So he's probably only keeping yes men around him. But also, like, I mean, all of his relationship with her is being irritated by her. So I don't see how it's different. Like, that just seems to be their relationship. He's always irritated by her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been in relationships like that where people hate me, honestly. Sometimes they just hate you.

[Oscar]

But he didn't get married and have a baby, Be with them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have. No, that's true. Maybe, like, he's changed recently. I don't know what he says.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's not, like, choosing to be this way, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right, right. He has his problems.

[Moses Hacmon]

He has problems. He's trying to deal with them. He's not doing a good job at it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Haley's suffering the consequences at this point.

[Moses Hacmon]

You have a baby, you gotta do it for the baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's going through some post. Well, how's the baby?

[Oscar]

How old is Jack? Was Jack Blues?

[Trisha Paytas]

Love the name Jack Blue. It sounds like a Lucky Smith or something.

[Oscar]

Nah. 10 months old now. Born August 2024.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not even a year.

[Oscar]

Not even a year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe he's going through some stuff. I mean, after having a baby, man, your whole world is rocked. You could spiral. Postpartum's a real thing for men. Maybe he's, like, going through something.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, that first year is so hard. Oh, my God. I was like, I spiraled for sure.

[Oscar]

Everyone give Hailey Bieber a little grace. You know, she's holding it down, not raising a baby. She's also postpartum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Things are rocky with Justin.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, for sure, her. But I think also, too, if he has, like, a mental illness with the postpartum, it can, like, amplify it so much.

[Oscar]

Yeah. No one really talks about, like, men also having a struggle, like, oh, yeah. Becoming a dad for the first time. So, yeah, it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. I mean, a lot of guys don't talk about it, but I'm sure. I'm sure it's, like, a real thing for guys, too, because it is an adjustment. It is a whole thing. It's a lot. And then also just, like, being like, oh, my God, I'm a new dad. I have to have this baby for the rest of my life. Like, it's just all of it can be a lot. And if you already have stuff going on upstairs, you know, like, it's just.

[Oscar]

And I'm sure, like, if you have childhood trauma, like, it can also kind of be triggered because then you're like, oh, like, I have this baby. Why didn't no one, like, look out for me when I was. You know what I mean? Like, oh, I'm sure that can also kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or, like, also, when we found out how to grow, I was like, oh, my God. Like, all of a sudden, I'm like, going to have to deal with everything I had to deal with and all this, like, trauma and abuse and all this stuff, and no one's going to believe her. And all this, like, it just, like, starts flooding you, and then you just, like, worry about it forever. And then, like. Yeah. And then when you have the baby, you're like, oh, my gosh. And you hear all these, like, horror stories about babies, and you're just. Yeah, it's. It's a lot. It's a lot. That baby's young. Damn. Why do I think that a baby, like, years ago. That's a lot for all of them. All of them to go through.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I know. I didn't even realize too. I. It feels like a lot longer.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought years. I thought, like, Malibu's age, like three years.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, no, was recent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And I mean, I feel bad for her more than him because she's like, she needs the dad to be around. Like, it doesn't matter what.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But if you have. The baby needs illness, you know, that hasn't been taken care of. I feel bad for both of. I think they're both kind of equal.

[Moses Hacmon]

Now is the time. Take care of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, man, that's a tough one. That's why I said tough. It's tough. You don't know until you become a parent, you don't know, like, how you're going to react, how you're. Your chemicals are changing in your brain and all this stuff. That's like, a lot. Because I just feel like this spiral has kind of happened recently. Right. With him. Like, I mean, it's always been kind of like he's a little dubious.

[Oscar]

But yeah, I think. Yeah, you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably the posting is a lot more.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's been public, you can say, in the last 10 months.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. Because he was a lot more quiet on. Especially on, like, Instagram and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. And we visibly have seen him, like, at the. What was it? Sza.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where he was, like, you know, visibly a little.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A little off, going through something. And Haley is trying. She showed up at the concert with him. Like, she is trying, so. But it can be exhausting, as we know. It's like anybody with mental health issues, it can be exhausting if they're not, like, getting help, because then at some point, you're just becoming a punching bag. Love them both. I don't know if I can help them. I would offer them to come here, but I don't know if that's something I can. Can Dr. Drew, get on it.

[Oscar]

Darman. Oh, no, not Dar.

[Moses Hacmon]

J.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, J would.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm surprised JY hasn't had Justin B.

[Oscar]

I know T. He can get through.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wasn't he a monk? He could get through to him.

[Oscar]

You're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Little spirit. That's his whole show. He was at the Greek Theater not long after me. And he just goes in the audience, like, helping people.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but he just had Selena and Benny being all like, Lada being a perfect couple.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's why he do for Justin and Haley.

[Moses Hacmon]

Justin. Haley being.

[Trisha Paytas]

We don't know. I trust Jay Shetty. I don't know him, but I trust him. Well, we don't know for sure he was a monk. I guess that hasn't been verified.

[Oscar]

Oh, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wasn't he say, like three years ago? It was more like seven months.

[Oscar]

No idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not trying to debunk Jay Shetty. I love him. He'll probably won the Emmy this year for best podcast. I predict it's. It's Jay Shetty. Amelia. What's her name?

[Oscar]

Amelia de Moldenberg. I guess, like last time we talked about it, since it is eight minutes. I. Maybe it's just a web series and not. Not a podcast. Now that I. Once I started thinking about it, I'm like, I think it's just a web series. Like Hot Ones is not a podcast, but like a web series. So I think they're the same category. Like best web series.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they can't be nominated for the podcast.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's Jay Shetty.

[Oscar]

Lots called Teresas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, Caller Daddy Hot mess with Alex Earl just.

[Oscar]

I was gonna say boyfriend material. Harry Jowsey, but has a better chance, I hope.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyway. Days.

[Oscar]

Ooh, maybe Rotten Mango.

[Moses Hacmon]

Do we know them?

[Trisha Paytas]

Do we know them? Is a good one, too.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if they're going to get an Emmy. I love them, though.

[Oscar]

There's just. I feel like they almost need to do genres for pod. Like, how can you do. Yeah, I mean, they do have it.

[Moses Hacmon]

When you go on the charts, there are categories, you know, from comedy to news.

[Oscar]

Just be best podcast or they.

[Moses Hacmon]

It could be even a sports podcast. Podcast. Who knows who they're going to give it. There's so many.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love Scott had someone big on. Was it Michelle?

[Oscar]

Michelle Obama. Did you go to Cowboy Carter? That's fierce. That's so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the questions. I predict Bone won't return to SNL this season. I feel like he's just taken off with this little cultureistas, honestly.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you might as well make that. Oh, it could be the Sophia Franklin again. Because, like, which way will it go? But I think that's a pretty scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

That he's sticking with his buddy. He's like, well, he could have just gone and done, like, SNL and be a solo person, but he's like, no, I'm sticking with Matt. I mean, they're both equally funny. I love that they do partner stuff on, like, you know, overcompensating. I love that they're like a duo.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so interesting because I feel like, yeah, like a year ago, I didn't even know lots of culturistas, and I feel like they're really the number one. Like, even, like, everyone I know in, like, the industry. I don't know that many people industry, but, you know, like, agents and managers when it comes to, like, promotional stuff. Like, do you think maybe you could get on, like, lost culturistas? And I was just like, oh, is this like the big one? This is like the big one. Like, it's not. I've been on Call Her Daddy. Okay, whatever. I've been offered other, like, big podcasts, but they're like, no, lost cost RIS is the one. I'm like, I don't know. I. Like a year ago, I could have said maybe. I'm like, I don't think I'm gonna be following Michelle Obama, by the way. I love that they had Michelle Obama, Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande, and Gabby Wendy Mothers, so. And I love that so much. And Gabby said they reached out to her. So I was just.

[Oscar]

I love it. She said no at first. She's. She really is guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I love it. I was like, damn icons only. I love that. I love that they're being so influential. I love that they're having the award show. It's happening while I'm pregnant. We didn't get invited, but I'm saying. But in my head, we could have been if I wasn't pregnant. Damn, they're really killing it. Love Bowen. Haven't heard from him in a while, but I'll always remember him as getting me on snl.

[Oscar]

What did he post? Oh, he posted a photo with what's his name? Dylan Efron. And they had, like, similar outfits. And they were like, he wore it. But I was. He'd be like, I think his caption was like, I would ask who wore it better, but I don't want to know because he was like, oh, Dylan Efron's hotter. And I was like, no, Bowen you wore it better.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you say it?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Comment to that. And I meant it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need to go.

[Oscar]

Look me, my feeble one.

[Trisha Paytas]

He follow each other.

[Oscar]

We. He followed me when we did our cosplay. Oh, Maybe he unfollowed me, but I don't know if he. I never checked. I'd rather just stick with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. I wonder if he still follows me.

[Oscar]

I never post, really. So he would have no reason to unfollow me because I feel like I wouldn't pop up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hide my stories from him still, so he doesn't. Yeah. Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did not be annoyed.

[Oscar]

Yeah. You see me probably the better.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting. I will never forget getting that DM from Faye Dunaway after my Christmas show or the day of my Christmas show. And I was like. He's like, we wrote a little part for you on us. And I was like, is this honestly number one hallucination of my life? I remember going to Moses. And I was just like, I don't. I don't know if this is real. Like, am I reading this wrong? Like, what is happening? It was. It was the crate. That was actually probably the craziest thing that's ever happened to me.

[Moses Hacmon]

Also, like, we're in San Diego. We just finished the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we were on the way to the show. I think it was the night before. We had just gotten to San Diego before the show because on the way there is when I had to, like, book everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right, Right. Because I was like, oh, no, it's gonna distract you from the show. And you're like, no, it's better this way.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think about the show because I'm like, now I have to go.

[Moses Hacmon]

To SNL, figuring out all the logistics of it. Because, like, is it happening or not? Because if it does, you have to fly from San Diego.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Right. I didn't want to bug him. That's what it was. I didn't want to bother him and was like, well, you got to figure out if you're going or not, because you have to leave tomorrow. And I was like, oh, I don't. I don't know who I talked to about this. Like, I don't know. And I just.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy. Like, running against the clock because, like, every hour something would happen and be like, maybe it's happening. Maybe it's happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

He kept saying. He's like, it might not air. We don't know for sure. And I was just like. And then he gave me his number, and I was actually bowen Directly, that was the coolest moment. It's literally like if, like, Jonathan Bailey was like, do you want to come beyond Bridgerton and be my girlfriend on it? That was like the equivalent of that, where I'm just like, what is happening? It felt so surreal. It is. It is the coolest one. I had to think about that more. I love that I could do a whole book about that, just about my getting to be on snl, because it was so surreal and so cool. And now he's just such a big star. Not that he wasn't back then, but he's a big. Really is such a big star. And I'm just like, I'll never forget Bo Yang.

[Moses Hacmon]

Give me a book that basically just describes a 24 hour period.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that was what the movie that's an Movie was about, was the first 24 hours of their. Their first episode.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I was like, it'll be the same first appearance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. We'll try and get the production company to make a movie about it. Because that's how I felt. He really set the trajectory. I love you, Bo and Yang. Oh, and he came on my podcast after, too.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that too.

[Trisha Paytas]

He, like, canceled his hair appointment. His one day off. He's like, so busy. I love you, Bowen. I love you so much. He is so cute. Scott Johansson making out with it. Like, he really is that. He really is that guy.

[Oscar]

Sydney Sweeney making out with him. Everyone. Everyone wants to kiss him. Everyone wants a piece of Bowen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean that. I can't deny it. He is very. He has a lot of Riz. I don't know if that's still a word, but he has a lot of Riz in person.

[Oscar]

I've heard Riz in a minute, but okay, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they reshot Wicked for good just like, last month to, like, change his part. Part.

[Oscar]

Oh, to add more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you hear? No. Like, originally his part was like, he's kind of evil. Like, he doesn't get, like. Like he's kind of still a bad character. But I think they changed it. From what I heard from, like, maybe him or even other people. Like, I think his character arc has changed now to, like, he has a better ending. I think Bowen talked about it how he. His. His character Fanny has like, a happier ending. Like he gets some redemption, like, he becomes good and stuff like that. So I was like, oh, that's interesting. Because he. When I had talked to him on my podcast podcast, he had said that the character development wasn't there for his character was Like a little evil person on the show. But now he's gonna get a happy ending, I think. And I think they just reshot it, like, last month.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they did reshoots pretty recently. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So everyone's like, we need to make Bowen likable because everyone likes him. So his character needs. I love that for him. I was so excited. I was like, I love that. Isn't that crazy? Everyone goes back to shoot that, like, what, five years later? How do you even, like, look the same?

[Oscar]

You're so right. It has been so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

I forgot I age so much in five years. Like, that's.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess in the Ariana still look the same.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because. Oh, my God, it is great. Like, just thinking, like, pre. Like, writer strike. Pre actor strike. Like, was it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it before.

[Oscar]

I think they ended either right before or they, like, we're almost done. Then they had to pick up right after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Wow, that is crazy. That is so many years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess it was, like, four years ago, but still. Because we were doing. I guess. No, it wasn't even that long ago. When did we start this show? Two years ago.

[Oscar]

Two years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so two years.

[Oscar]

But then they were already, like, a year into.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Oscar]

So, like, three years. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. Can't wait to see it. When's it come out? Comes out soon. Like, November. So excited.

[Oscar]

Universal partner.

[Trisha Paytas]

Universal partner. And preparing our premiere outfits just in case. What if they still do big premieres like they did last year?

[Oscar]

Oh, they have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah, the premiere is selling it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? You think people, like, see the premieres, like, we're gonna go.

[Oscar]

Yeah, because then, remember, like, they do, like, the references to, like, their characters, and then that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's kind of doing that now, though, huh? Everybody on the red carpets are doing that.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah. The Zendaya effect, who just did it recently, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Another press tour. Just did, like, outfits to match the.

[Oscar]

I feel like everyone kind of does it, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Rachel Zegler did it for Snow White. She had some Snow White ones.

[Oscar]

Ones, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Corsets. Like, I guess everyone.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Rachel Cosplayer.

[Oscar]

The girl from Rachel Brosnan is Lois Lane of Superman, who's like a. She's a journalist. So she. To one Superman event, she had a newspaper dress, which is like, oh, they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really are going very on theme. Yeah, I love it. That does make me question. Not to bring it back to Blake Lively, but, like, why did she wear florals to the. And ends with us?

[Oscar]

Oh, because she went to the flower shop.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stop.

[Oscar]

I didn't even want to say, but you're giving. You're giving Lily Bloom with these curls today. No, this wig is very Lily bloom.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like the Tik Tocker that plays Blake Lively.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is there one that's like that? Okay, well, thank God I didn't layer myself today. That was. Okay, I'll take it. She's pretty, but awesome. Okay, well, you know, now I understand the florals more. I get what she said, because, you know, she said something like, why did she say that? Like, wear your florals. I get. Get it. So she was trying to be on theme. Okay. She was trying. I mean, she was trying. Okay. I appreciate it, I guess.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God, that is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I'm going to revisit the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hopefully tries. She tries to take over the whole movie.

[Oscar]

Well, we can revisit after the court case then. Yeah. Once we have a little clarity, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sweating today. I don't know why. Okay. I love that. That's cute. I'm here for it. So do you think, like, Fantastic Four will do themes or not?

[Oscar]

Probably a lot of blue. I would think that's just like, Vanessa Kirby is pregnant in real life now. So I guess by default she will be kind of method the character.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I feel like Dune started it. Right. Dune was like the first when she came in that little robot outfit kind of.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Law Roach and Zendaya kind of always channel. Because even when she was doing Spider man dress, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's right.

[Oscar]

She'd have, like a wet web. The web dress.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it was always a couture.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So La Roach has kind of always been about it. And then obviously, like, Barbie was another huge one when. With all the Barbie that was iconic. Yeah. That was so like Zendaya, Margot Robbie, I feel like were the big. In recent history at least to. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do the on theme.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Now it is kind of like, expected, I think, because Ariana and Cynthia were always like, pink and the bubble.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sells it. You're right. It does sell it. Okay, well, we'll be there to sell it. We'll be there. The pink and the green. It's hard. It's hard to show up to those kind of things because everyone's dressed so, like, on theme and so great.

[Oscar]

But, like, very. This is so kind of old at this point, but it reminds me of Haley Bailey at the Kids Choice Awards. She had, like, the slime dress.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of good.

[Oscar]

She ate with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that was a good one.

[Oscar]

The comments, like, on the tick Tocks, like, her outfit and stuff. Like, don't like her, but damn, she ate. And I'm like, even if. Even if you have. If you have her enemies even giving you flowers, and that's how you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she does get a lot of maybe, I don't know, unwarranted, it seems. I mean, I know she's made some mishaps, but doesn't seem people really don't like her sometimes compared to like.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like a James Charles. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. She gets a lot of hate for, like, the stuff that happened. Like the Let them eat cake. I get the insensitivity. I'm sure she didn't know. I didn't really know. I didn't really get it. First of all, I didn't know what it was from. Didn't know. She probably didn't know. She's like, I'm Marie Antoinette. Kristen Dunst. Like, let the meat cake. So she probably, like, didn't know. And then now, like, people just will, like, never let it go. So I do. Those are the worst comments to get. And this is why I'm glad. I don't know how old she is, but that's why I'm kind of glad I'm not young and pretty. Because it's like, they just are so hard on you at that age, you know? Chris Olsen, too. Like, I feel like when you're young, pretty, they just like, I don't like you. But yeah. And now I feel like people can't say that because it's like elder abuse. You can't say, like, I don't like you. You're like, you're old, you're 40, you're fine. Just go be your fake Star Jones or whatever. But it's just. Yeah, I don't know. I liked her I outfit. I love the kids choice. I wish I could have gone to that. I wasn't invited.

[Oscar]

See, Jack Black.

[Trisha Paytas]

One for everything. Best movie. Best whatever.

[Oscar]

They were kind of lit this year, surprisingly. Like Sza Ice by Tyla Cat's Eye. It was kind of fierce, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you been?

[Oscar]

No, I was supposed to go this year, but I didn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why? Oh, right. Oh, but you saw Cat's Eye.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, originally I was supposed to go because Synergy. We're like the same company, so. Yeah. But then I was like, I'm probably gonna be too depressed. And then we got Cat sized separately. So then I'm like, okay, well, this is bigger. So I'll do that. And then. But when I was a kid, I. I was very serious about the kids choice. Boys. I remember calling in.

[Trisha Paytas]

You voted.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And I remember you'd have to call in and then you would get like a voicemail from or like a voice memo, whatever, from Rosie o' Donnell. And I was like. And she'd be like, thank you for voting. I'd be like, you're welcome, Rosie.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think you were talking to her.

[Oscar]

I talking to the Voice. I took it serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Rosie was like the host all the time.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I wonder why she's like the Nickelodeon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, because she did like Harry the Spy and stuff, I guess. Yeah, that makes sense. She was kind of like an actress. She was like in Flintstones.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Rockford Peaches movie. I did love Rosie.

[Oscar]

I was. I did not play about the kids choice. I'm like, I'm gonna rock the vote and get. Get my girls a blimp, honey. I honestly cannot even remember probably like all that. I would think I would love, like all that cat.

[Trisha Paytas]

What cast?

[Oscar]

It was the first cat, Lori Beth Denberg.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she was on like every season. I feel she was like always on that show.

[Oscar]

I was early on to. I was a nick kid before I was a Disney girl. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Snick.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Snick at night. Yeah. Saturday night, Nickelodeon. Yes, it was all that. What else was on at sncc? It was like there was.

[Oscar]

Wasn't Keenan and Cow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe Keen Cal. Maybe Ren's Dimpy at like midnight or something.

[Oscar]

I didn't play about Nickelodeon back in the day. Day they. The kids choice can be hit or miss. But yeah, this year looked pretty. Pretty lit. And Haley Bailey, I think. Really? She really did. Yeah, she did her big one.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like a model though, too, so that makes sense that she would look good.

[Oscar]

But I like that she went campy. Like, she's like, let me.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's trying to be on theme like everyone else. Like, oh, we're doing slime tonight. I loved it. It was so cute. See, Amanda Bay said she's. Is she gonna take oic? She said to look better in paparazzi photos.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's what she said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Real.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she. I think she said she wants just lose like £40 or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. I love announcing it. I would be that way too. Like, I'm gonna start like, okay. I love Amanda Bynes. I don't know if it's the real one that DM me. I feel it's the real one. Everyone says that. Did DM Me? I asked you me on the podcast. And she's like, I'm not really doing podcasts now, but I love you. And I like to believe it's really Amanda Binds because I love her.

[Oscar]

Yeah. She doesn't believe it. Why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

It seems like the most legit one that comes from her, but I don't know.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And it's not that far of a stretch. Like, Tana was going to be on our podcast or did shoot it. Right. Just never aired, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, did she shoot it?

[Oscar]

I don't remember. I forgot if she was about to shoot it or she did shoot it and didn't air.

[Trisha Paytas]

I bet she didn't. Because I feel like I would remember her talking about Amanda.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she definitely was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Supposed to, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Supposed to be a guess, but maybe it got canceled or something because she only did.

[Oscar]

Amanda only did, like, two episodes. She's like, it's not for me. Yeah. The. I. An episode definitely aired for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

One with a guest.

[Oscar]

It was with her. She had a co host.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who was it?

[Oscar]

I forget. It was a guy co host and.

[Moses Hacmon]

A guest, I think.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I remember her, like, on her phone, kind of looking up the questions and things.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I would love to co host a podcast with her. Come on. Amanda Bynes, I love you. Oh, my God, I love her. I really do love her. Every time I see pictures of her, too, I'm like, I love that she's just like herself. And then I love the. The whole, like, I'm taking Ozempic so I feel better in paparazzi pictures. I'm like, that's so deep. I would do. If I was getting paparazzi, I'd feel like, okay, I need to. Oh, my God. If I was getting paparazzi now with the way I look, I would, like, out hang myself. I think about that when I walk into Ralph, I'm like, paparazzi aren't here. They never are. Except sometimes when people take those photos from behind of you, and then I'm always like, oh, my God, don't do that either, because that makes me feel so bad. I love Amanda. Amanda, please.

[Oscar]

As a Nick kid, Amanda was everything. And she's in my number one movie of all time. You know, people are making those, like, lists now of, like, top 10 movies of. Of the century or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Century.

[Oscar]

I keep seeing everyone do these. I forgot where it started with some. It was some magazine or whatever. And everyone's, like, being very critical. I'm like, y' all, if I did my little list, I'd get eaten up. Because my number one movie of all time is Easy A starring Emma Stone and Amanda Bynes and Penn badly. My, literally my number one movie. What Easy A was everything. And still I saw it like, wow. I saw at least 11 times in the movie theater at the AMC.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why?

[Oscar]

I just loved it. I love. I thought it was the funniest thing. Every scene is perfection. It's cinematic. It's written perfectly.

[Trisha Paytas]

You, like laughed at it. You didn't want to. Did you want to be in it?

[Oscar]

I love that. That's what your brain does.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I always think. Pirates of the Caribbean I saw cuz I'm like, I want to be in it. I wish I was in it.

[Oscar]

I just love, like, I laughed every time I watched it. I would laugh. And I love the Ali Mashaka. I loved every. Every single from Ally and A.J.

[Trisha Paytas]

Emerson.

[Oscar]

Sean is perfect.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Amanda Bynes is perfect. Penn Badgley is perfect. The gay friend. I forget his name. But he's also in the Cinderella story. He's so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love him too. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Stanley Tucci.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stanley Tucci's good. I see that scene all the time where the kids like, he's like, yeah, it runs in our family. He's like, but I'm adopted. Why does it matter? And he is like, who told you?

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never. I forget the movie, but I see that clip all the time. Like, oh, that's so funny.

[Oscar]

Never worn movie of all time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Stanley Tucci though. I do love him.

[Oscar]

And he's in my number two favorite movie of all time, Catching Fire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

Stanley Tucci. Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you love Devil Wears Prada?

[Oscar]

It's not in my top 10. But I do love devilish product.

[Trisha Paytas]

Number two is catching fire.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I don't know what number three would be though. I guess I. I only know my top two movies of all time are Eca Catching.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. And you just like rewatch those?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I'm always down to watch those, I guess. I loved Enora, but I haven't seen it since I saw it that first time. But I do own it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Watch that too. That's on our list.

[Oscar]

Twilight Eclipse is also, I guess, in my top.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one is that?

[Oscar]

The third one?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think the first is the best.

[Oscar]

The first one Does E. I do love the first as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

The third. The third one's the last one with the baby. Baby.

[Oscar]

The third one. No, that's. There's four and five.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, five. There was a fifth one. I thought there's only four. I Thought it was part two. Three was part two.

[Oscar]

Twilight. New moon, Eclipse. Breaking down, part one. Breaking down, part two.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder if I watched all this. I don't remember.

[Oscar]

Damn. And you were fierce in that Twilight era.

[Moses Hacmon]

We watched every Twilight.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the Twilight era. It was like rainy here too. And we'd go out and film the Tick Tocks and be like, rainy. And then the Trish talks, the church talks. Ate with those two. Oh, you're right. We were inspired. We were inspired by Twilight. It was good. You've been a good Edward. You made a very good Edward Cullen over there.

[Oscar]

And Jacob, right? Yeah, you were a really good Jacob.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's hear your line as Jacob.

[Moses Hacmon]

What's her name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Bella.

[Moses Hacmon]

Bella. What are you doing here, loca?

[Trisha Paytas]

Close. So close I thought you were gonna die.

[Moses Hacmon]

Bella, where have you been, loca?

[Trisha Paytas]

Close.

[Moses Hacmon]

Where have you been, Bella?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you switched it that time. Do you want to do the line.

[Oscar]

Where the hell have you been, loca?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, where the hell have Bella, where the hell you been, loca?

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought that's what I said.

[Oscar]

I thought you were going to do the line from like, the Trish talk where. What was it? Baby? What was it? It was the name of an ice cream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Only you would know this, cuz. I have no idea.

[Oscar]

Oh, Till Baby T, who was played by Mukbang, I think. The dog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Mukbang the dog played Baby Tillamook. And you're like, isn't that ice cream? And you know, you're right. I went to Ralph's the other day to get Tombstone and there was Tillamook there.

[Oscar]

I was like, it does make sense. It's a good name. Yeah, I love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was a production with Kelly coming being the dog handler.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yep.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was a production of the dogs and everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had nothing to do. Good times, though, honestly, Good times. I wouldn't have spent our single life any other way.

[Oscar]

I guess. No. Really? No easy transition from that to Nikocado and Stephanie Sue.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw this. He like, DM me about something and I didn't want to answer because he's like, thank you so much for your support years ago. I was like, ah, I don't know because like, last I opened it was like, I don't do podcasts right now. Okay, no worries. He said he just did of collabs, like, okay, that's good. Like, whatever, it's fine. Then he said something like he had a new video. I just saw like the first line and I was like, scared. You know something? I knew it was something about Stephanie Stu. And they saw the video and I was like, like, oh, let's not rego. Like going back to drama six years ago gives me so much anxiety.

[Oscar]

I.

[Trisha Paytas]

For everyone involved, like, everyone is different. We're past it. Everyone's forgotten about it.

[Oscar]

I literally forgot about this. And then it all. It kind of came back to me in pieces. Cuz 2019, the year of drama. So cuz I'm not. I was never in the mukbang community. True. Besides like yours. But yours are like very unserious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

The cardboard cutout mukbangs and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wasn't set up with all my.

[Oscar]

Food in front of me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Which I love.

[Oscar]

But so this I didn't like, I didn't know Nikocado. I didn't know Stephanie. But I think it was just the year of drama because it was like the by sister and this is 2019.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is my downfall. Yeah. This is everything true.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It was just your drama.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah.

[Oscar]

So I think that's why I was. I tapped into this but I still didn't fully understand. And then, yeah. Watching like Nikocado, he.

[Trisha Paytas]

We got to react to this on Patreon because it's so much the videos back and forth where I feel like we talked about it recently on Hot Topics. I felt like I manifested this back because I remember we talked about it.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah. Because we were talking about. And then I think you talked about how at the time. At the time you were Team Nikocado or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? At the time I was on drugs.

[Oscar]

Oh. Oh, yeah. December 2019.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is me just like on drugs era.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we talked about it a couple times. But I remember one time talking about it how people don't really believe me because it's me and it takes like another person to be. Because my drama with Nikocado was years before how I was. And I said that I was like a little.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And maybe scared is the wrong word. Obviously I'm not my choice of words anymore. But I remember being like, I was a little like, you know, I ghosted him. But I was kind of like, I don't know, whatever. So everyone's like, trisha, you're so overreacting. But then when Stephanie sue made her video, everyone's like, oh my God, poor Stephanie Sue. And I was like, but that's kind of the same thing I was saying. But people didn't have any sympathy for me. Whatever. This was so many years ago. But Nikocado has revisited this, which I'm surprised. I feel like he's moved so far past. Definitely her. She's moved past it. What did he say? I didn't watch the video. Maybe I need to watch it. I should probably comment on things I watch.

[Oscar]

Well, I guess for context to anyone who doesn't know. So it all kind of started in 2019. Stephanie sue did a collaboration with Nikato and Zach Choi. And at the time, she felt pressured to talk about her drama with another YouTuber named Veronica Wang. And then I know when I was like, yes. And then I remember the Veronica, it all kind of started coming back to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

The red, like, leather seats behind her and she'd be slipper noodles.

[Oscar]

I. I remember just, like, learning about all these people, like, through the. This, like, little drama saga. And then it caused her to later release a video called why I am Scared of Nikocado Avocado. And she accused him of manipulating her, invading her privacy, making her feel unsafe. And she said that he crossed boundaries by sharing unsettling text messages.

[Trisha Paytas]

The whole thing kind of came out of nowhere at the time because I do remember this. And it kind of came out of nowhere because her video came out first.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she was like, he's sharing private text messages. All stuff I'm like, with who? With where? Like, none of this had. So everyone thought she was trying to get ahead of something maybe at the time.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's like, what is all coming from.

[Oscar]

She said that Nikocado Avocado was using his platform to threaten and bully her. At this point, my home safety is kind of in question. And then Nick posted his own video denying Stephanie's accusations. And he claimed that she had already agreed to discussing the drama, like, before they started filming their. Their collaboration. He accused her of fabricating the narrative to gain sympathy and that she was exaggerating how uncomfortable she was during the collaboration. And then Stephanie did a response to that response titled How Nikocado Manipulated all of Us. And she showed more text messages and video clips to refute his claims and show a pattern of manipulative behavior. And then that's kind of where it ended in 2019. But then when. I think we talked about this too, the other day, but how when Nikocado did his weight loss revealing, like, comeback video, he had, like, a panda helmet on or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

And people thought that was kind of like a taunting Stephanie Sue a little bit, because that's how she used to start her videos. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her boyfriend would wear them. Yeah. Wear the panda.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So he. People thought it was kind of like a Easter egg to that. And Then, yeah, Nick Okado posted a new video, I guess, last week. I. Yeah. Where he, like, brought up the drama again. He does take accountability for being, like, too aggressive with Stephanie and, like, being messy and wanting to talk about the drama. But he also wants her to be held accountable, in his opinion, for kind of skewing the narrative. And his big thing was he claims that she was, like, weaponizing the Me Too movement and comparing him to her. The time that she got essayed in the person that essayed her, he thought that she was comparing him too much to that and that was putting him in a bad light. And that he claims, too, that she was being, like, manipulate, emotionally manipulative to the audience as far as, like, when she would cry or she would like to be taking, like, breaths and stuff as she was talking about him. That was kind of like the big, like claims. But I was really confused because then shout out, spill Shash. Because she brought up this, like, 2021 interview that Nikocado did with this website called the Mel. And he also talked about this back in 2021. He said his. His whole Persona, like, with the fights and the instability. He said it's all completely scripted. YouTube has been a way for me to create a character and provide entertainment. What you see on camera is completely exaggerated for clicks. He said that him and Stephanie both completely planned and orchestrated their feud to promote. To benefit both of their careers.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember that. I remember him saying that. Yeah.

[Oscar]

He said, we both knew that this would be the best thing for our careers. Both of us got our names further out there than we. We ever thought possible. He said it was an opportunity. Opportunity to add as his role as the villain. He said, I've taken the path of train wreck because I know that's what sells and that's what keeps people's attention. I'm willing to be that villain because I know it will keep people talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then he came up with this being like, she needs accountability.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think. I think Nick kind of goes back and forth with that because it's like just like an easy thing to do. I don't think 72 wasn't on it. I don't think she was like, let's create this because she had such a squeaky clean image.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That, like, this is like a weird thing for her. She didn't need it. She was collabing with Zach Choi, who was getting like, 50. I love Zach Troy when I collab with him. I think ours has like 50 million views. He was getting so many views. He Was definitely like the it boy. I don't think I have a hard time believing because 72 didn't like engage in any drama ever. She was like, very much so. I don't think she needed this.

[Oscar]

And she also seems very like non confrontational.

[Trisha Paytas]

So yeah, very much like that. Now of course I don't know, but I mean, I feel like everyone, I think anyone who makes a video talking about their drama or a back and forth, I think everyone's a little manipulative. Even if it's not intentional. Right. Like if she's comparing him to like her essay thing. I mean not. I don't know if that's like an intentional manipulation, but it is kind of framing a picture. Like this is so evil and Nikocado's like there with it. But I do think with accountability, like you can't take accountability. Nikocado in this case. And like also be like. But also you should take accountability. You know what I mean? Because that's not taking accountability. Take it for yourself. If that person wants to take it, fine. If they don't, whatever. Yeah, you know, I don't think you can.

[Oscar]

That's how we started the video. And like, so I watched that clip, I was like, oh, this is good. And then it kind of took a turn where it was like pointing the finger back at stuff. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I think that doesn't work. And I feel like there's been my beefs where I've been like, okay, but they also. But it just doesn't work. Like just be like kind of up the situation. Like I kind of was a little mess. Whatever. Like does the other person something do with it? Probably. But you can't like it just takes away from. From like you taking accountability if you're trying to also point fingers at someone else. Either she lives with it or she doesn't, or people see it or they don't. Over time, as I always say with everything I think people see truths that are there or not there. You know what I mean? So it's like if, if she was manipulative, whatever. People see it over time, even if they don't. Whatever. Like, I don't know, it's just like it's more for your conscience, like to clear it to be like. Like it's good. Like it's good to take accountability. Because he was definitely. Yeah, obviously he said it in 2021 and he says that like he was trolling and being like maybe unnecessarily aggressive and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know what Was real. Because back then, I don't know if I was team anybody. I think I was going on both sides. I think I was like, oh, my God, this is tea. I think I was going back and forth again. I was on drugs, so I have no idea. But I remember it being, like, such a thing. I remember doing, like, my first video in January of 2020. This was right after all this happened. And my lips are, like, blue because I was like, literally, like. Yeah, I was like on a drug binge for like three weeks or something. And I was so, so skinny, though. I was so skinny, my lips were blue. And I remember my first. I think I'm like, eating a Korean fried cheese or something. And I'm talking about Nikocado and Stephanie Sue. And again, I was like, blurred out for the last, like, three weeks of December. And I just remember being like, so watching all the drama and it was like, literally hallucinating all of it. So I kind of mushed it all together. This is when I was talking to the dog, too. So I think this was a lot of stuff happening. But I do remember being so invested in this once. Like, I was kind of coming to out of the drug binge, and I was like, let me get involved in this drama. And I did. I did talk about it a lot. Don't know where I stood on it, but where I stand now, first of all, a long time ago, I don't know. I think it's maybe the time has passed, people. Especially with Stephanie sue going through everything she went through now with the Diddy case. Kind of a weird timing.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And the description of the video, too. I'm just gonna paraphrase it, but it was very much like Stephanie Hsu is covering the Diddy case and is in her doing true crime now. But I was her first, like, test run into true crime when she tried to expose me. So, like, tying it into, like, the Diddy stuff, that's like, she's like, the number one YouTube. Like, she dethroned Joe Rogan to be, like, the number one podcast on YouTube.

[Trisha Paytas]

No way.

[Oscar]

Yes. With, like, the Diddy coverage and stuff. So it's like such a high. So the timing is also like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it just because that happens? That always happens.

[Oscar]

I guess also to like. Because I'm very much. I lean towards Stephanie and. But I. I don't. I don't go here. So I don't know. But yeah, I. I read too, from, like, the people who are like, Team Nikocado. Is that. Well, a lot of Stephanie's Fans have been, like, flooding his comments for the past few weeks about, like, bringing this up too. So maybe that has something to do with it, with why it's bringing it up now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her fans were flooding him.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like, leaving hate comments about, like, in defense of Stephanie from this, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

20, just now, all of a sudden, six years later. That's so weird. Especially when she's doing such big things. Why would her fans care?

[Oscar]

I don't know. No, that is just what they're saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Streets are saying, okay, if I had fans now, like, going to arrest David Dobrik. No one's doing that. No one even knows when I did the tour. No one's bringing up David Dobrik. You know what I mean? Like, except for me, I was like, I need to stop bringing him up because no one cares about him. So I think this might be in his head. More so because I'm like, I don't think that's happening, but I could be wrong. And I have a soft spot for Nakata because I know Nakata. I don't know Stephanie stuff. I have a soft spot for him. But I also know just like the JoJo's, just like the Trisha's of the world. Like, like the. The trollingness of it. And then, yeah, taking accountability but also not blaming someone else. I'm like, oh, we're just like, not quite there. We're almost there, but not quite there. So Stephanie Sue's been out of the drama. That was her only drama for as far as I know. Like I said, it could be intentionally, unintentionally manipulative to an audience. But she didn't know. She's never doing these dramas. I lean towards Stephanie sue on this one.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think. And this is just me fully projecting. I think especially someone who is, like, very, like, passive and then being being, like, thrusted into someone who's very, like, confrontational and, like, not knowing how to process that. Oh, that's kind of how I saw it. And I think too, because he kept bringing up, like, though, you know, weaponizing, like, her essay and like, the Me Too movement. But I think how I interpreted it from Stephanie is that it's just context into, like, contextualizing why she was so uncomfortable and how it was, like, kind of triggering to be in, like, to have like, a really aggressive. A man who is, like, you know, wanting something from you, but, like, having trouble being, like. No, because almost like we talked about the doja cat thing. Like, you know, there's different ways that people respond. Like the Trauma response that comes up, like, fight flight, you know, Fawn and everything. So I feel like it's kind of something along those lines where she just, like, had trouble, like, standing up to someone who was just like, you know, who's very confident, like, no, we gotta do this, you know, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is what I said in my room. Original Nicado video from my 2017. I was just like, oh. I felt like I couldn't say no. And it's like, you know, whatever. Like, I did ghost him, whatever. But I remember him being like, I'm gonna come to California. I'm gonna do this. And I'm like, yeah, but we never, like, set a date. And then I'm just, like, very awkward. This still to this day, this is, like, the. My worst thing about me is, like, it's, like, so hard for me to say no to people. And then, like, it becomes something, and it just, like, starts, like, unraveling so quickly, and I'm like, I didn't know how to say no, but I didn't really say yes. So I'm like, what is happening? So I get. Yeah, I get. I get where she was coming from on that, too. And, you know, I don't know. I know Nikata was, like, my first big cancellation when he came out about me ghosting him. I mean, that's enough. I don't. For some reason, it happened in, like, 2017, but it set off a chain of reactions in 2019 because PewDiePie made a video about it in 2019 about me and Nikocado. And so maybe he made a video in 2019 or another video, because it definitely was 2717. He might have made another video in 2019. And that, like, started my 2019 cancellations. Like, everybody was making videos about me in 2019, and it all started from me, like, ghosting Nikocado. Like, people hated me for it. They're like, how dare you? Like, that was. I mean, that was, like, one of my worst cancellations. Actually, like, thinking about it now. Like, I don't think about it because I just think about so many other cancellations, but I'm like, that was one of the worst. Like, you would think that I did, like, the most absolutely heinous things to him. And I was like, that's. That was wild. And it was really him just coming to LA and, like. And then I just didn't collab with him when he came. And, like, yeah, it was my. You know, I had said, yeah, if you come to la, we'll do it. But we never set Like a date. And yeah, I have a hard time saying no to people. I'm always just like. I really. Even to this day, I'm always like, yeah, let's do it. I'm like, ah. And then it happens. Like, I don't know. I'm pregnant. Thank God. I've been pregnant for three years. I can just keep using it as excuse. But then once I'm done being pregnant, I don't know what I'm gonna say, like, ah, you know, some other time. I don't know. But yeah, I thought Nakato was fast. I like Nakato. When his weight loss happened, I was like, you know, that also signifies. Is like a new you usually.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you shed weight, it's like a new beginning, I would think. I don't know. Never lost the weight, but I would think it's like, oh, let me get it. Everyone has a new perspective on him. So I thought he would, like, want a fresh start.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Away from this. Like, you don't want to be drama anymore. Nikocado. You're killing on your weight loss, your surgeries. Like, people are interested in you. I don't think you need this drama. And I get Stephanie. Sue is the it girl, but you're an it boy right now.

[Oscar]

You got a lot of views, you know, I know. I kind of feel the same. I just, like. I kind of just want them. I mean, obviously Stephanie, I feel like she definitely is not going to be doing a. She's like, yeah, she's just so, like, a new level of, like, mainstream success where, like, she doesn't have to get in the weeds with anything. But I want that to for Nick too, though. Like, I want him to kind of just, like, rise above it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think he could be. I think he needs to start focusing more on publicity. He's like, I don't really want to do interviews like that. But I'm like, this is the time to do it because people are so.

[Oscar]

He has a story. Like, yeah, story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's weight obsessed these days. And it's like, yeah, when he came out with his weight loss, that was the time to freaking strike, you know? And I feel like he did to some capacity, but he could have done so much more. You still can do a lot because he's lost the weight he's got. Now he has surgeries he's been getting done. And everyone's always fascinated by those stories.

[Oscar]

And just the mystery. It's like almost like crazy comparison. Almost like a Weird Al. Almost like it's like he is because he has so many. Like, it's so hard to know, like throughout his career. Like, I would love for him to just really like deep dive into it. Like. What? Yeah, because there's. He contradicts himself constantly, like on purpose, obviously. Like, he has. He's built in like the mystery around him. And I would love for him to start like diving into that more because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who'S the real you?

[Oscar]

Yeah. And he obviously is really smart to have, yeah. Created like an empire off of this whole like train wreck but secretly mastermind thing, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he's very smart, especially with like also just like the discipline of like gaining the weight, like being vegan but then gaining the weight and then losing the weight and just like all of it. Like, I do think. Yeah, I think he's very smart as well. Gets a lot of views consistently. I. I'm intrigued by him.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I feel like you can level.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I think that this is like the route. I was like, no, you're doing so good.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think you'll get there again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did it give use. What is. What's his views at for the Stephanie sue video?

[Oscar]

Let me see. Last time I looked, it was like 260k.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, but that's not a lot because his other videos get more than that.

[Oscar]

270K a week ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what was this one before that a month ago?

[Oscar]

6.644K.

[Trisha Paytas]

On what video?

[Oscar]

Why we can't break up. Black bean fire noodles, Mukbang.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. He gets more of that. Like. Yeah, keep going that direction.

[Oscar]

Like over a million with all his other stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's almost like people don't care. They're always like, kind of me, I was kind of bored. I was like, I kind of don't care. I don't watch it. I didn't see any clips. No, I was kind of like, I don't know. That's so old. And like, what. Why are we talking about this? And like.

[Oscar]

And nothing was really. Nothing really came from it. Like, there is no new information. Like, it's stuff that I feel like he kind of already addressed. There was one thing I was like really taken aback where it was like the video of, you know, that security cam footage. Video of like she was kind of having a panic attack on the couch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Oscar]

And. And her partner, I think it was right. Was like trying to calm her down. He said in this video, he's like. And she posted this video and her first response about me and everyone thought that was Me, like, trying to like, assault her on the. So I was like, what? I was like, I don't think I.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't remember that. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't think it was Nick.

[Oscar]

Maybe one person. Like, I'm.

[Trisha Paytas]

He saw one comment. Yeah.

[Oscar]

But also like, at the time, he was like. I mean, her partner is teeny tiny. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, but is that him? I don't know.

[Oscar]

I don't think anyone. Yeah, Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. The whole thing is a little weird.

[Oscar]

Hopefully this is a good sign for him. He's like, okay, like, people don't want to see this stuff. Like, yeah, let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

They want to see you on the Just Trish podcast. We still love you.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think this is a little bit out of the step that you need to take is a misdirection.

[Oscar]

But he was halfway there with the accountability. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Maybe edit the video. Just cut it out after that.

[Oscar]

You know, you're so right.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can do it. You can keep it views. Go into YouTube editor and end it. Be like, I take accountability. That's it. Sometimes they need us. I'm here to help my fellow trolls. I'm like the Beetlejuice of YouTube. It's like, you know, when you go into the afterlife, Beetlejuice helps guides the. The demons or whatever. It's like, that's kind of me. It's like, okay, I'm. I'm you after the trolling. You know, like, let's. Let's try and figure this out. I'm learning too. I gotta learn. And like the Mr. Reaction thing, you know, Honestly, if I going too far with the jokes, I'll stop. Let me chill. Maybe she doesn't like it. I'll reach out to Ms. Remy Ash and ask her for. If it bothers her.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you should.

[Trisha Paytas]

And if it does, I'm done. Maybe I'll take a break from it anyways. Maybe it's not funny. I'm millennial. I'm like a Shane over here. Just thinking I'm going to Pop Mart to get a little boo Boo. You know what I mean? You just sometimes don't know until someone tells you or corrects you.

[Oscar]

But I'm dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And then last quick one. James Charles update. The Kayla Malik canceled episode did air. Thankfully not too late.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good time.

[Oscar]

Also, shout out, cancel, because they are the last. They're donating, like proceeds from their videos to good causes. I think this one, because with Kayla is going to support like DV victims. The one from announcing their cancellation of canceled was going to, like, immigrants Immigrant Defense Fund, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Okay.

[Oscar]

Doing good work over there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tina, text me all the time when something's, like, happening in the world. There was one where hotline is being defunded for, like, queer people. And she like. And literally she text me at, like, midnight. She's like, what can we do about this? And I was like, oh, my God. I don't know. I was like, trying to figure it out. I was like, I don't know. I mean, we could donate. That's always a great step. But I'm always like, I don't actually know what we do about this. Like, write a letter. Yeah. She's, like, constantly thinking about stuff. She's always like, it was just like, on her mind while she's like, in Hawaii. She gotta do something. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Because I did see her post about it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was like, really? And then the following up the next day, and I was like, we can always donate. Maybe there's something else we do. We write letters. I don't know. Or advertise, I guess, with, like, other organizations that keep it going, like, you know, trans Lifeline or something. I think there's like, one main one.

[Oscar]

That'S being the government stopped funding it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So we need to find the independently funded ones and promote those. But love her for it.

[Oscar]

I love that this era pop. Culturally aware. Culturally aware. Yeah, y' all are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Climate change awareness.

[Oscar]

I love this for you both.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is great. I do love it.

[Oscar]

Well, Kayla sat down with the girls and talked about a little bit more about the James Charles of it all. I guess the most newsworthy bit that came out of it was Kayla claims that James Charles was allegedly using bots to help sway, like, public opinion. In the comments, her tik tok, she said that her and Jacob Sartorius got tipped from someone who works, like, in social media and was able to, like, pinpoint that he was allegedly using, like, a company to use bot comments. Because she was getting flooded with comments that said, oh, she's dragging it. Like, when she was talking about her experience with Evan and with James and she said it would. She would get a comment, it would get like, it would become the top comment because it would get, like, thousands and thousands of likes. And then she would, like, check the account and it would be like a burner account, like a bot account.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a very real thing. But how did she get that? James was, like, the one behind it?

[Oscar]

I. She said that she got a tip from someone who works on social media. And then also James was getting similar comments from, like, similar accounts. Like, all his top comments were good, all of Kayla's were bad. So that's what she's claiming, which I wouldn't. Again, this is all alleged. This all in a claim from Kayla. I want to put it past them. It's a very real thing that, like, crisis PR firms are doing. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

But isn't that so easily traced? Is like, if you bought comments or you think you go through someone else to do.

[Oscar]

Depends where. Because there's some that are really good and really expensive. Like, okay, not claiming that he did use them, but, like, for Justin Baldoni, like, in the. The text messages and like, the emails between, like, the publicists that came out. Out in that. That first set of documents, whatever they went through, like, the price breakdown of, like, how much it would cost and like, the levels and the. The more expensive ones was more, like, intricate as far as, like, the sourcing of the accounts, what they would say, where they would post.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's more like, reliable maybe.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And like, they would even be, like, replying on Twitter or, like, making threads on Reddit. Yeah. So the. There's like, crazy, really intense levels that. It's a lot of money, obviously, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

But hers was more the level of, like, zero followers or commenting.

[Oscar]

Yeah. To, like, sway the public opinion.

[Trisha Paytas]

That happened to me so much. I've definitely gotten, like, bots at me just saying the same thing over and over. And you're just like, God, this is so annoying.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it can happen to, like, anyone. They need to stop doing that in general because that seems, like, not good for any platform.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I guess if you're going through a feud with someone, you would. But it's just. It's hard not trying to get the benefit after James. It's just, like, hard to, like, pinpoint James as doing it because, like, I don't know either. He'd be smarter to have someone else do it. I don't know. I can. Honestly, I've never bought a bot comment, but you never know. I don't know. But I guess it's all good on his. Yeah, it's hard sometimes. You have super fans that'll do it. I don't know. Or maybe it's a pr.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I definitely like it. It would be through, like, a. A crisis PR or like a pr. Our firm. Those are the ones that, like, do it and, like, source it. So it's not like he went on Google bought comment. You know what I Mean, Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He maybe had the money to. Because I think. What. Why wouldn't Evan do it or someone else that she.

[Oscar]

Yeah, because it is. To get it done well is like, it is expensive. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she just said she just thought, like, someone told her, so she thought that was.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So that's what she claimed it would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pretty big claim.

[Oscar]

It is a big claim. It is very common, though, so it doesn't really, really, like, surprise me. And it's, like, very scary in general, like, how comments and stuff can, like, sway public opinion because it. A lot of the times it's like that first, if you see, like, a thought repeated, that's the one that, like, sticks with you or like the one you see first, you know, and it's very hard to break that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I feel like public opinion for sure, but also like, your own mental health. Oh, my God, mine. I would be spammed as well. Like 20, 21. I was getting spammed with so many comments that, like, literally was, like, destroying my brain. Like, it just kept being over and over about someone I knew in my personal life and stuff. That was just like. And it was like, just constantly seeing that person's name over and over, and you're just like, oh, my God. Like, I literally have, like, a mental break because, like, the comments and they were like. I would guess their bot comments. I mean, I guess they could have. A lot of people could have been commenting this, but it was just, like, literally annoying. And then you'd, like, block the name or block whatever, and they'd find other ways to do it, and they'd find other ways to end it. Like, mental, like, mentally. Like, it does not make you literally go insane. And, like, already on top of whatever else you're going through, like, I was shooting stuff with Evan. I was going through other stuff at the time, but then now seeing this person's name, I was just like, what the hell? Like, it was just so tormenting. So I. Yeah, I can't imagine that. And then, of course, yeah, you just assume it's the person that you. You know. And maybe rightfully so. Like, I guess that would be a fair something. Especially someone told her, like, it's this person. I guess that's like, gives you enough to be like, yeah, I'm surprised she talked about him. It's. It's hard. It's hard because, like, I know you, like, want to, but also, like, mentally, like, it's just, like, not good. Especially. He's, like, obviously a bad friend person. We're all Seeing this. No one's on team James. I guess not.

[Oscar]

He's still really, really popular.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

JoJo Siwa's not seeing it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, I just opened Instagram. I saw him on paper magazine or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some magazine really recently.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it was just now and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my. Yeah, you're right. Hard.

[Oscar]

I think that's why she does have. Yeah. Cuz I think it's. It's shockingly easy to run a hate campaign against a woman. It's very difficult to get a guy who also has done something bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think mentally too, that's why it's so hard. Because if you're going up against a big fan base, it's like. I mean, I remember with like the vlog swat fall, it's like nothing you can say or do will I ever change that fan base mind until like I said. And hopefully it gives some hope to Kayla. Like over time you'll see this pattern with other people. Maybe it'll be with a guy with James and people take it more seriously. It sucks. It so sucks to be a girl. But I just like mentally, it's like a lot. She seems to be pretty strong, but she is very young.

[Oscar]

So I'm just like, yeah, she does still have like, even with tan, like she had such a good like sense of humor about it. And yeah, she's laughing. She's like, you know, making jokes about it. So she's strong as hell. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

But at the end they. It's a lot. And like you said, going against a fan base and then seeing that person. I think about that with like Jeff and David, obviously they're older and it's a different thing. But like, yeah, Jeff's just seeing David constantly be everywhere and like glorified, especially after his like weight loss stuff. It's like, God, that's. That's hard. Yeah, that's a lot. It would be hard. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Mm hmm.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel for Kayla. Yeah, she seems to have a good demeanor about it, but it's a lot. And then yeah. Oh my God. Seeing James just everywhere. I literally haven't blocked everywhere and it's been like wonderful. Like I really don't see him in anything. But you're right. People don't see it. It's good. It's good for her. Like I wish I could be that person that just keeps talking about in like, you know, injustice, especially the way he was. But at some point just takes a toll on your mental health too. I. There was a point in mind. I was just like, I kind of Just, like, let go. Trying to, like, show this person's a bad person. Then over time, people see it or they don't. Like I said, whatever. But yeah, but she's good. It's good for her. Honestly, I support it. If you can talk about it, keep talking about it.

[Oscar]

At least she has, like, Jacob Sartori, like, her podcast with Jacob. And Jacob's been very supportive also about everything she says about James.

[Trisha Paytas]

And who would have thought that's like, literally, I can't grasp that. I just think of, like, the sweatshirt singer and I'm like, oh, but he's just like.

[Oscar]

I think of him as Millie Bobby Brown's ex boyfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, he really does get a lot of girls. Okay. Jacob Sartorius. It's so funny and so random, but love that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Supportive, supportive male in her life.

[Oscar]

Tana compared. It's like, because it was like, oh, they are, like, so close. And she. Kayla, doesn't want to, like, ruin their friendship. And it. Tana compared it to her and Jeff, like, obviously when Tana was single, like, yeah, like, we have good chemistry and we're so close and we work together so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, but we're just friends.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It does give me that. It does give me.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's straight.

[Oscar]

Jacob Satori. Yeah. As far as I know yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't know. Okay. Millie Bobby Brown.

[Oscar]

Millie Bobby Brown.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got it.

[Oscar]

Not Bobby Brown.

[Trisha Paytas]

My first thought was the age gap, and I'm like, let me not go there. We're at the end of the episode. I got it.

[Oscar]

Bobby Brown.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like what? Okay. Okay.

[Oscar]

Millie Bobby Brown. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, girls. Yes. He gets all the girls. I did think Millie Bob Brown. Okay. I don't know. Know the lights, the wig. It's squeezing my head. I gained an inch on my head. I was a 24 in circumference. I'm 25 in the past month. A lot's happening. Okay. Love it. Love Jacob Satorius and platonic friendships. I'm here for it. Okay. Love, love, love, and love. Kayla. I support on everything and keep talking, girl. If you have the strength to do it, keep talking. I mean, we need more people talking. I just crumble. I have bad mental health, so just have to, like, stop talking about everything. But I support it. I like it. I like that she's talking about it. Like she's going on podcasts. Like, she has own podcasts to talk about it too.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, guys, that's it. We love you here. Oh, did you have something to say? Moses brought his microphone in.

[Moses Hacmon]

No. I'm just saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I always open Twitter before we go. You're trending.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? No.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. With the Megan interview.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trending.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does it say?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think mainly the addressing the fnaf. Like, the. Oh, I have questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

This has been all over Twitter. Bunny. The bunny has responded.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she's like, it's on site. Like, she was, like, not having it.

[Oscar]

Oh, wow. Jimmy. Jimmy had the fnaf. He activated the fnaf.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right.

[Oscar]

Jimmy had the FNAF question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That's right. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

All of their fans are. Yeah, there's a lot going on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, when she answers again, I didn't know. I had no idea what her answers were to be. Just real quick, I know we're, like, wrapping this up, but I don't know what her answer is going to be. So when she answered that one, she was kind of sweet at first. She. Oh, Freddie, love them. They're adorable. So I thought, oh, man, this going somewhere good. And then she's like, I show them what a real animatronic would be. And then she goes, all of that. So spoiler alert. I'd be the only one left standing. I was like, oh, my God, she really is a killer. I love it. What are the fandom saying? They're just like, f. The. The.

[Moses Hacmon]

Didn'T think that this could even happen, you know, like, suddenly, you know, they made a. You guys made a connection that was needed to be made.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shout out, Jimmy. Yeah, honestly.

[Moses Hacmon]

And some are just calling out, like, Megan calls out Freddy F. F Bear and his band maid in you interview clip.

[Trisha Paytas]

O.

[Oscar]

We got another.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. I love, love that. Okay. She was fair. She says it like it is. Honestly, another queen going up a big phantom, too. FNAF is a big phantom, and she's also going up them, so she's also speaking out there.

[Oscar]

James Charles next.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, and I will say they did go through some questions, so they let that one in. You know what I mean? They. They screened the questions and they were like, this one's going in. So they wanted this smoke. They wanted the heat. I've been seeing a lot of it on Twitter. I was, like, retweeting because I just thought it was, like, kind of funny, but I didn't know it was so serious. I was like, I. Oh, my God. One of them had, like, a million views. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

So, yeah, because all day it was like the movies were trending. All the big movies then just refreshed.

[Oscar]

It and you were there on Hashtag Universal partner, baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Can you screenshot? I love it. I'm trying to screenshot it. Okay. Yes. I love it so much. Thank you to Jimmy. Also thank you. And not thank you to Jimmy. And you real quick too. I have to address. Because literally even this morning, my makeup artist, yesterday, my mom, my sister in law, DM me. You Moses.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I was gonna bring it earlier when you guys talked about movies and roles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why didn't you? Well, we'll just talk about that because.

[Moses Hacmon]

You guys moved on. But I was gonna say, like, your mom congratulated you on the new role. I forgot about this.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know what it was. I just saw Jimmy post. I'll post it. Then I saw your comment there and I was like, okay, whatever. This is weird.

[Oscar]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gonna be in the.

[Oscar]

And the Crossing movie. Isabelle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who the. Who is Isabelle? And everyone was like, wait, this is so huge. But for some reason, everyone believed this. I post so much.

[Oscar]

I literally, I follow that meme account because it's Animal Crossing. Meme account. And they also, like, are a Trisha fan. And they posted that. And I was like, absolutely. And then. And I kept getting likes on the comment and it's been like, days. And I sent it to Jimmy. I'm like, people are actually believing this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he made it, like official Jimmy posting on his story. So let me post on my story. And then everyone's like, Jimmy's family has.

[Oscar]

Been comment, like, reaching out to him, being like, oh, my God, maybe you can get in the movie too.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're all going in Animal Crossing. If I get an animal crossing, we'll all go there. Because I know you guys are the stands. I mean, look, you guys are like the brains behind this, like, pop culture machine. You guys are so good. So in touch with it. Is. Are they doing the movie for real?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, well, maybe there's a way we get in it.

[Oscar]

Maybe this is manifesting it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I play her? Who's this person? Why do people think it would be me?

[Oscar]

She is. She's a dog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Like, what is it? She talks fast or what? Someone's like, oh, I could see the waitress or talks or something. I was like, what?

[Oscar]

I guess, yeah, she does talk. Yeah. And like, the words are, like backwards kinda, like, because they have their own little language.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so it's just a random thing they came up with.

[Oscar]

Yeah, the meme account. Feral acnh. They just made it up for fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

So funny. I've never gotten more people, like, congratulating, me and I'm like, I feel like I post like weird all the time. I was like, what?

[Oscar]

It's so. I'm like, like I was gagged that people thought it was so serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone. Moses, weirdly too. Yesterday was like, what is this? Is this real? I was like, okay, I'm telling you would know I'm going to be in a movie. Like, what do you mean you believed it though?

[Moses Hacmon]

I've been. It looked like an article. So I was like, are we finding out together?

[Oscar]

Almost like a Broadway one though, right? Cuz it was a fake Broadway article and they.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I was feeling about it. I'm like, okay, this is manifestation. It looks real. It's going to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I to refer posted it too. I was like, well, I don't know. I'll be in this movie shirt.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I mean you did. You had a video playing the game. You had a video playing the Animal Crossing game.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had to do it again.

[Oscar]

Yeah. You do have a clip with Tana that Jimmy loves to bring up though, of you being like, oh, who plays Animal Crossing?

[Trisha Paytas]

But he has it saved on his.

[Oscar]

He does. He has a folder and it's safe.

[Trisha Paytas]

We got to do Animal Crossing together. We'll do it. I know it sounds awful, but I'll give it another chance.

[Oscar]

It's our favorite game.

[Trisha Paytas]

You do love it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, Me and Jimmy love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it Jimmy's favorite too?

[Oscar]

He's been playing it for like a week straight on on his Twitch channel. Shout out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Shout out. What? Wetzels?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I thought it was just Jimmy. Wetzel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought it was like Wetzel Jimmy.

[Oscar]

Oh, maybe it is Wetzel Jimmy. Either one of those, y' all.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want a Wetzel Pretzel next time I go to that doctor. It's my favorite thing to do. I always want to go to get a Wetzel pretzel. Andien's is by you though, and that's has the cup with the cheese. It's really good.

[Oscar]

Oh, I do love Auntie Anne.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, we just went on a whole tangent. Yes, I love it. All right. Another viral interview. Just Queens only. We need another icon, another queen coming on. Love Megan. Love Lizzo. Love Jimmy and Oscar for helping me be cool because I was gonna turn down that interview and you're like, no. I was like, okay, we'll do it.

[Oscar]

Look where it got you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Viral trending. Thank you to Moses for checking on Twitter to see if I'm trending. And thank you guys. Go to our Patreon. We do extended episodes every Saturday.

[Oscar]

Saturday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or we do extended podcast episodes every Wednesday. And then we do a bonus video. That's very good. Comments are in. Everything's like, Patreon is so worth it.

[Oscar]

Because we love.

[Trisha Paytas]

We give. We give an over an hour. It's like another podcast. Over an hour per video. We love doing it. And come have a treat and join us. We love you guys, and we'll see you in the next one. Have a good weekend. It gets better. If you're feeling sad right now, it'll get better. Better. I promise. It can't get worse, right? You've gone through the depression. We're getting up, we're getting out. So you'll feel better. Don't worry. Okay, Bye.