Jimmy (4:35)

I.

Trisha Paytas (4:36)

And we like to always pay it forward or give it back. So check out that email. And that's it. Also here today, my co host of the day. You know her as my sister or you may know her as Calgator143 on Twitch. Gamer girl. Not. Not a clip farmer.

Cali (5:00)

No, but I would be. I would love to be a clip farmer.

Trisha Paytas (5:03)

I don't know, I'm just. I thought people don't like clip farming in your world. Streaming.

Cali (5:07)

No, they love it.

Trisha Paytas (5:08)

Oh, Pokimane does not love it. She was like, I don't. I don't like clip farmers. I liked it better when it was just gamers.

Cali (5:13)

Oh, okay.

Trisha Paytas (5:14)

Well, here's Cali. Yay.

Cali (5:17)

Save the best for last.

Trisha Paytas (5:19)

Okay, well, sorry, Jimmy.

Cali (5:22)

Sorry, Jimmy. No, that was no shade to Jimmy.

Trisha Paytas (5:25)

No, I know. I'm just kidding. No, it's been a good. It's been a good run. Yeah, it's been a good run. I missed you guys so much. I know. I missed you too. Like, we didn't know. We didn't know if you were gonna be able to make it out and. You made it out.

Cali (5:37)

I.

Trisha Paytas (5:38)

You saw Beetlejuice last night.

Cali (5:40)

Oh, my God, it was amazing. If you didn't see it, I feel sorry for you because it was great.

Trisha Paytas (5:45)

I know. I wish we could talk about it to give reviews of people to come, but now it's over, so.

Cali (5:49)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (5:50)

Right. For the next one. No, my sister even, like, last night in bed, like. Well, we had dinner after the show, like, in. In the room, and then we were talking about it, and then we were, like, in bed, and my sister kept talking about it, and I was like, just.

Cali (6:00)

I'm so proud of you. I was crying. I'm. I know I'm emotional, but I just. So proud of you. And then when you came out to do your bow, I'm just so happy for you.

Trisha Paytas (6:09)

Oh, thanks. It was very fun. My sister and Moses, they were. And my mom were on the front row, and I could hear my sisters, like, laughing, which is like. Like they're all the lines. Not just my lines too. Like, if Delia, when she did her little turn, I heard my sister, like, laughing so loud, and I was like, I loved it so much. And I told everybody that I bow with all my bowing partners. Kenway pointed at me. Yeah. Like, my sister is in the front. My Travis, who bows with me. Like, I. I tell everyone. They're right there. In front. So it was very exciting and special that we here. So next time I'm on Broadway, get your tickets because you don't want to miss it. That's why you gotta go to church, miss. Because you just might miss something amazing.

Cali (6:40)

But yeah, no, I. I'm having so much fun here. I am so proud.

Trisha Paytas (6:46)

Last time you were in New York, we saw Beetlejuice when we come to New York. Did you see it with me twice that year.

Cali (6:53)

We went to in November and then we went back in like December or something.

Trisha Paytas (6:57)

Yeah. We really were like, let's go back to New York.

Jimmy (6:59)

Quarantine.

Cali (7:00)

Yes. Right before at least that was our big. Our big shebang.

Trisha Paytas (7:05)

That is weird. I wonder why we came back like in a month. We're like, okay, let's go again.

Cali (7:09)

I don't know why. Maybe your friend was going to come with us that time the second time.

Trisha Paytas (7:14)

But is that why? Yeah. But is that why we would come back to New York?

Cali (7:17)

I think that you just really loved Beetlejuice.

Trisha Paytas (7:19)

It really is. That is crazy.

Cali (7:21)

The. The. The one. What was the song that you redid that I was your body double.

Trisha Paytas (7:27)

Say my name.

Cali (7:28)

That's what I thought too. Okay. So when they did it, I had like a flashback. I'm like, oh, my God. I was her stand in on.

Trisha Paytas (7:35)

You should post those photos. I should. Were you both the Lydia and the Beetlejuice?

Cali (7:39)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (7:40)

Switched. I remember there's a picture of you dressed as Beetlejuice and me as Lydia. We have in the. I don't know if we got it the other way around, but you also were the Maitlands. You were Barbara.

Cali (7:47)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (7:47)

And Cedric was Adam. And you guys, like, got me down, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I asked Cedric too. He came to the show and he was like, I had flashbacks to, like, if I knew then what I. Because he was choreographing it all, so. And they had never seen it. Andrew Valentine, my music video director, and Cedric, they had never seen Beetlejuice when we did those music videos. So they were going based on like the slime tutorials. They're like, okay, like. And now they saw it and. But literally it was so nice. Like, everyone has come to see the show. Like, literally every single person. Like, Jeremy, like, people like. And I would tell them because they all came from la and I was like, well, you know, it's this little part. Like, don't think you have to come for whatever. And like, so many people came out to support. And every night I've had somebody every single Night. I mean, asides for Moses, of course, but, like, we always had a guest every single night. Come to a matinee to whatever. Like, people have come. Like, they've really.

Jimmy (8:29)

All of your family, from everywhere.

Trisha Paytas (8:32)

Oh, from Cleveland. I had, what, 15 family members. It was so nice. I mean, Cali's dad, like, people from my hometown in Illinois were like, we're coming out. I'm like, I don't even know. But it was. It was very nice.

Jimmy (8:44)

And no, but it is the peak of the show. Like, that scene is, you know, the show goes like this, and you're so scene. And then it ends.

Trisha Paytas (8:52)

Thank you. Yeah. I mean, I thought I did.

Cali (8:54)

I'm like, oh, my God. I wonder if she's nervous every time. I like, oh, I could never do what you do.

Trisha Paytas (8:59)

That's crazy, because you can never know.

Cali (9:01)

Because you're so confident and you're so, like. I feel like I just.

Trisha Paytas (9:06)

You're just.

Cali (9:06)

You amaze me.

Trisha Paytas (9:07)

Thank you. I become more confident with the show. I think now I'm, like, very comfortable being out there. That I'm, like, just giving more and more each time. I do love it. Once I once, you know, like a show, it's just, like, in your head and you don't get nervous. Like, it literally is so casual and so what? And I, like, I just love it, and I am going to miss it, but I really do think I'll be back in some way. I'm just happy people liked it because, like, like, it's. It would be not the worst. I mean, it's totally fine if people, like, thought I was sucked at acting and give me, like, whatever, but it was just, like, an extra bonus for people, like, oh, she's actually good. And her, like, line delivery is good. So that was. That made me super happy.

Cali (9:40)

Yeah, your comedic timing is really good. And I just.

Trisha Paytas (9:44)

You're really good. Oh, my God. Thank you.

Cali (9:46)

I feel like New York has really just blossomed you, you know, even bigger than. This is a great end of the year for you.

Trisha Paytas (9:54)

It's a great end of the year. Oh, my God. And then when we go back in.

Jimmy (9:59)

We feel like there's a six months away.

Trisha Paytas (10:01)

Yeah, well, Christmas break. We always have break. That's what people always ask me. And I'm like. And I love a break and stuff like that. But, like, it is great because I have been so, like, you know, we're able to balance it so well. Like, I spend more time with the kids out here knowing that I have to go at night time, which is like, when they sleep anyways, but knowing I'll be gone for an extended period of time. Like, we spend more time because there's, like. There's just not distractions. Like, there is at home. Like, you know, Pilates are going to this or cooking or whatever. You know what I mean? We're just always together, which has been.

Jimmy (10:25)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (10:25)

Really nice.

Jimmy (10:26)

And the city is so dense that you can do things. Because in la, if you want to take the kids out just to drive somewhere and back is the time we actually do something. We go down the street.

Trisha Paytas (10:35)

Yeah, it is nice. I know. I wish New York wasn't so expensive. I would love to get, like, a penthouse at, like, the W in Times Square. That is my. I did take you there one time because that was. The hotel we always stayed at was the W Time Square, right by Olive Garden, which is right by the Palace Theater. Oh, my God. We would have been just like. No, the lineup would have been insane. But literally, it's on the same street. I do love Times Square. I would. I would say that it's so expensive. But, you know, I just.

Cali (10:57)

I love New York. Don't get me wrong. I do like to be outside, though, like, in nature.

Trisha Paytas (11:02)

Oh. I was like, you're outside all the time there.

Cali (11:04)

Well, that is true. You do walk.

Trisha Paytas (11:06)

Yeah, I agree. No, I would never do New York full time. But definitely I could do halftime. Vegas. Halftime.

Cali (11:12)

Oh, love it.

Jimmy (11:13)

Should be thirds. Thirds or quarters. You know, every quarter in a different city.

Trisha Paytas (11:17)

Maui, me, just following Tana's schedule. Cassandra's like, we should go to New. We should move to New York. I was like, yeah, and Maui and Vegas. So me and Tan link up every chance we get. But it's been. It's been fun and it's been nice because, like, again, all my family's come out, all my friends have come out, and it's been wonderful. And got to go to the Wicked premiere. It worked out.

Cali (11:40)

I can't believe it.

Trisha Paytas (11:41)

Last Hot Topics, we said maybe. We didn't know I was supposed to be back. It was so weird. I supposed to be back in LA to film two really big things, and both of them just, like, got rescheduled, and they got rescheduled in December, which is great, because I was thinking, like, oh, no, is it, like, not gonna happen? Because those things were, like, the biggest to me that I was even gonna miss the Wicked premiere. And after I bought the outfits, booked my glam, like, everything, and then even Access Hollywood, when they reached out, my agent's like, I think you Might be filming that thing then. And she's like, I don't know. And I was like, well, let's just take the call and see. And they were, like, really excited. And then we had to give him answer. I was like, no, it's happening. And then, like, literally, like, a few days before the thing got canceled because it was. There's a rainstorm happening, and it felt like Madame Warble with, like, changing the weather. And all of a sudden, that's what they're like, how did you make both?

Cali (12:25)

I'm like, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (12:25)

Like, honestly. Because honestly, we ended up, like, saying, like, it was sad to missed it, but I know the thing in LA was, like, way bigger, but I'm so happy we went because the Wicked premiere would have been fun to go to just as is. But the fact that I got to.

Cali (12:36)

Go interview with Access, I was so happy.

Trisha Paytas (12:41)

Oh, I had. I mean, that might be my calling. Like, I do love Broadway and I, like, want to do more, but I really do feel like, well, because, like, you know, they help you with questions and something that. But then I just, like, rift and stuff. And then the producer, Andrew, who, like, works on the Kelly Clarkson show and works with, like, NBC Universal as a whole, he's like, you're such a natural. Like, he was surprised. It was like, my first time, I. Once I got going, I was like, oh. Because, like, when you're in the. The outlets, right? It's like they have all the outlets. Access Hollywood is, like, number two spot, and most people, like, stand behind this, like, little rope. But my producer was very much like, just go out in the middle.

Jimmy (13:13)

Perfect.

Trisha Paytas (13:13)

So I was like, on the middle, and it's like, it was like, it was once. Once I got going, it was unstoppable.

Cali (13:20)

You with the tiny mic is unstoppable.

Trisha Paytas (13:22)

I love the tiny mic. I would like a big mic next time.

Jimmy (13:24)

I feel like that makes me more legit.

Trisha Paytas (13:26)

It was very much with a little one. And then, like, even.

Cali (13:29)

Because it was funny, though.

Trisha Paytas (13:30)

It was funny. But even my guy Andrew, and we were with Access Hollywood, so it wasn't like, totally, but it was funny because, like, all the big outlets had their big cameras and lights and microphones, and then we just have, like, this little iPhone. But surprisingly, everyone was, like, down, people. I didn't question it. Everyone was really nice. And, like, my first interview was Bronwyn James, and I was like, once. That went so well, where she was like, gag.

Jimmy (13:52)

She was the first one.

Trisha Paytas (13:53)

You thought she was the first one.

Cali (13:55)

And that was such a good one to start on.

Trisha Paytas (13:57)

Then I felt she gave me the confidence because I was like, she is, like, very accomplished, like, actress. And, like, so. And I was just like, I was. It made me feel so much more at ease because, like, truly, truly, truly, like, no matter how many people, like, stop me in the street or ever, like, I really don't feel like industry, like, that way, you know? Also, like, it blows my mind when, like, anyone knows. And then the fact that she. Because I haven't seen it. Check out Access Hollywood TikTok. But if you haven't seen it, she said that she's like, yeah, Shenzhen was, like, based a lot on you.

Cali (14:24)

And I was like, I clocked it, too. When we saw it together in theaters, I'm like, that sounds like a Trisha line. And I know that sounds a little delusional, but I'm like, I swear that's from you. That's the.

Trisha Paytas (14:35)

That was the coolest. That was the coolest thing. Yeah.

Jimmy (14:38)

I was just like, that's your cameo in the movie.

Cali (14:41)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (14:41)

Oh, yeah. Because Trisha somehow having an influence on the Wicked.

Cali (14:44)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (14:45)

I mean, and I already, like, loved her. I, like, loved that character because, again, I just, like, loved. I loved her vibes. I loved everybody because it was me, I guess Nobody.

Jimmy (14:54)

And Bowen, you know, I mean, she did so good.

Trisha Paytas (14:57)

She was so good in the role, and she was, like, amazing. And then she was, like, so nice in person. And she had, like, gotten married, and also I'm over. And she just made me feel so good, and I had, like, so much confidence. And then, of course, I got to see Bone Yang, which we were talking about, and I told him. I was like, I really feel like snl, like, kicked off.

Cali (15:12)

I think so, too.

Trisha Paytas (15:13)

Maybe just even universally or cosmically or, you know, whatever. Just in the. In this fear of it all. Yeah. Where it was like, that was my first, like, the foot in the door legitimate thing. And then it seemed like a lot more followed after that, which was, like, really nice because I did Matte Cosmetics, like, a couple weeks after the snl and then getting to see Mac Cosmetics here at the Macy's. Like, it was cool. So all this stuff was really cool. I was really excited. It all kind of, like, intertwines now. I feel. I really feel like I'm in my actress era now, and I really feel.

Cali (15:40)

Like this whole trip has been, like, so like, made you credible. They know what I mean. You're finally getting your. Your flowers. Finally. After so many years of doing.

Trisha Paytas (15:52)

19 years. Yeah. It's really nice. I. And I feel confidence, too. I feel like my confidence has been, like, over the years, just dwindling down. Like, when I first came to la, I was like, I'm an actress. This is it. And then, like, over the years, you're just like, I'm fat, I'm not talented, I'm not getting any roles. But it really is.

Cali (16:05)

You never stopped, though, so that is true. But, like, even though you thought it, you kept going.

Trisha Paytas (16:12)

Yeah.

Cali (16:12)

Most people would be like, no, I'm done. Yeah, you prevailed.

Trisha Paytas (16:16)

Got to believe in yourself, you know, and it's all about timing and. Yeah. And of course, people like helping you because you can have all the confidence and persistence and even talent. But it's like, it really is like, people helping you to, like, obviously, Lydia, shout out Lydia. Like, she was the first. I remember that email that day, getting that email my whole life. Like, the first thing they tell you to get an agent when you come to Hollywood. I never had an agent in my. And so at 36, getting an email from CAA, I was like, what the heck?

Cali (16:44)

Huge agency, Huge agency.

Trisha Paytas (16:46)

And she's been so great. She still is over. She's still my number one person. When Lydia calls, I pick up. I'm like, oh, my gosh, what do you got? Like, last time we left the podcast, I got, like, an amazing call from her and I was like, you are such an angel. And so, like, obviously, like, Lydia, like, even bowling, like, DMing me, even boning, stopping at the carpet for me was, like, really nice. And, like, you know, it makes you feel cool. You're like, oh, my God, that's my friend Bowen. You know, and it's. I feel like, yeah, you are friends, so.

Cali (17:09)

And then you got to interview Jeff Goldblum.

Trisha Paytas (17:13)

That was amazing. That one was.

Cali (17:14)

Oh, my. The handholding.

Trisha Paytas (17:16)

That one might have been. I think that one might have been my ultimate one, because I have. You didn't know me. I had a Jeff Goldblum phase. I did meet Jeff Goldblum, which he says he remembers. No, when I said. When I say, oh, my God, I became that person. Which is why, by the way, if anyone ever has interactions with me and if you ever feel awkward or anything, don't, because I am exactly you. Like, I understand fandom so much that I'm like, the same person when someone comes up to me, like, you know, did you remember me? And, like, sometimes I do because, like, I haven't been. Jack Goldman's been doing it for, like, three decades, but it's like, it Is so funny to be like, oh, I met you in 2007.

Cali (17:50)

I think about it every day.

Trisha Paytas (17:52)

He was so nice. Even, oh my God. Even me being like, you need to get on TikTok. Meanwhile, he's. He's like, oh, I think I am. And I was like, no, I was like gaslighting him. Like, I didn't know I was a God. But he was so. He was like so sweet about it all and wonderful.

Cali (18:03)

And John quick witted too.

Trisha Paytas (18:04)

Oh, no. Like, to me, he was. To me he's like the most iconic because I've just known him for so long. Through all his movies. Earth Girls are Easy and the Flying. Like, yeah, he was so quick. He was so sweet. I was just like. And he was very handsome. I know everyone's like, oh, Moses. Having to fight Jonathan Bailey and Jeff. But he was just so like, no.

Jimmy (18:21)

But people said, this is you meeting me when I'm that age. I was like, I'll take that. I'll take that in the comments. Or like, I'm like, I'll take that. I didn't see that gold bloom when I'm older. Just looks wise, you know, See it.

Trisha Paytas (18:38)

I could see that vibe for sure. Someone also wanted you to be in my final performance of Be Like, Moses should go up on stage. I was like, okay, okay.

Jimmy (18:44)

He knows on social media.

Trisha Paytas (18:47)

Oh, we did the lines last time. You said you couldn't sing like him though. But I think you could try a line from the which when we're at the fireplace.

Jimmy (18:54)

What's his? You tell me.

Trisha Paytas (18:56)

Let's see daylight come and me want to go home. What is my line is Hide the deadly black trench. What does he say?

Cali (19:05)

They like, right?

Trisha Paytas (19:08)

What is it? How do you not know? You watch it every night.

Jimmy (19:11)

Because I have to like start, you know, I have to go through all the lines to get to that line.

Trisha Paytas (19:15)

Mr. Tally Man. Tally me banana. Daylight come and me want to go. That is so crazy.

Jimmy (19:22)

Maybe he says it again.

Trisha Paytas (19:24)

No. A beautiful bunch of ripe bananas.

Jimmy (19:28)

That's what he says before you.

Trisha Paytas (19:29)

Okay, go sing it in the Broadway voice.

Jimmy (19:32)

A beautiful bunch of.

Trisha Paytas (19:33)

Right. He goes, a beautiful bunch of ripe bananas.

Jimmy (19:39)

A beautiful bunch of ripe bananas. I'll just repeat what he said. He has a voice. He projects.

Cali (19:46)

It's so quiet, like, that's pretty good.

Trisha Paytas (19:51)

That was better than I thought.

Jimmy (19:52)

Well, I mean, the microphone I don't want to show because, yeah, they, they shot they.

Trisha Paytas (19:57)

You got to project, right? You have to project. That was pretty good. That was fun. And then Jonathan Bailey, everyone was Waiting for that interview.

Cali (20:05)

And you guys were gonna get it.

Trisha Paytas (20:06)

You guys, you guys. Oh, my God. He was so. I don't know. I don't even know how I was supposed to be there, to be honest, because Access, like, they wanted me. I said no. And there was a few days before. I'm like, can I come back? And they were like, okay. Like, I was, like, shook. So I don't think they. They were planning on having maybe a social media person. Like, I don't know, because it was so weird. I was kind of, like, squished in there between the outlet next to me and I won't say who the Alan next to me was. Asking the girl that was with Access Hollywood, the main reporter, like, what's going on? She. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. Like. And I'm. I'm very much the same way. I was just like, I'm just squishing here because there's, like, five main outlets. It's like a big one. A big one, and there's like, five main ones.

Jimmy (20:43)

Then, like, there's no space. It's really like a personal space. Like a person, then photographer, a person. There's no space.

Trisha Paytas (20:49)

There's no space. So it's all. Yeah, so it was. Anyway, so again, you have to kind of think, like, where I'm. I'm in the third spot, and technically, that person was supposed to be in the third spot. So it's like. It's like a big one. It's access. I'm kind of squeezed in, and then like, another big one, I'm going to shimmy on. Yeah, the big one next to me is. It's like, because it's just another person to go down. And what I've learned is, yes, like, I think they have intention of going down the line, but for instance, Jonathan Bailey did a big one, did Access Hollywood with the first, with the reporter that's always there. Thank you so much to Mint Mobile for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Most of my holiday gifts end up in a drawer or the back of my closet or accidentally left at my cousin's house. But not this one. Mint Mobile is offering unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month. That's their best deal of the year, aka the only holiday gift I'll actually use every single day. Honestly. Yes. That cell bill comes and you're just like, oh, this is too expensive. So what better gift than a cellular plan? Especially one as affordable as $15 a month? It's good for you and them. Mint Mobile's best deal of the year is happening right now. Get a 3, 6 or 12 month unlimited plan for $15 a month. All Mint plans come with high speed data and unlimited talk and text on the nation's largest 5G network. You can bring your current phone and number over to Mint. No contracts and no nonsense. Keep that phone number. It's so important. I love that they can transfer this because when you need those passcodes or everything sent to your phone, keep that phone number. And when Mint you can just transfer it all, which is great. Just think of all the money you could be saving when you switch over to Mint Mob. Get them socks. Get them Premium Wireless for 15amonth. Shop Mint Unlimited plans at mint mobile.com Trish that's mint mobile.com/t, r I S H Limited time offer upfront payment of 45 for three months, $9 for six months or 180 for 12 months. Plan required 15 month equivalent taxes and fees. Extra initial plan term only less than 35 gigabytes. May slow when network is busy. Capable device required. Availability, speed and coverage. Various C Mint mobile devices.com for details. Thank you so much to Mobile for sponsoring today's episode. And then he got called to do like a cast vote. Well he actually did the big one for us. Got do a cast photo then Access Girl though I have to get her name. She was very, very sweet. That when I accessed was really sweet. She was like really nice. She was like, oh, they probably won't come back after the cast. Then he came back, did a very long one with like the main Access Girl and then his publicist was pulling him away but I was like Jonathan and he was. And my shadow Andrew for capturing it. He was getting Jonathan being like, he, he was like trying. He like didn't know and, and I just like love you. Like, you know, I was just like, I was really gagged and he was being literally pulled away and I was like no, because the show was already starting. It was like 7:30.

Jimmy (23:23)

That's the only reason it was really late.

Trisha Paytas (23:25)

And it was like oh man. The person next to me too was like annoyed because like obviously we were so close and he was like right there next to me and I was like so ready with my questions and everything. And I just, I knew I was like we're gonna have like this connection whatever. Anyways, so he got pulled away. But then I saw he like, he kept talking to fans. Like fans kept coming up to him and like everyone's inside. Like fans influencers celebrities.

Jimmy (23:45)

Everybody see that? Like, the movie's about to start.

Trisha Paytas (23:47)

There was maybe like 12 people. So whoever was, like, lingering one was with people who had the sexiest man alive thing. And then maybe. I don't know if there were fans. There were just people talking to him and he was being nice and taking pictures. And I was just like, telling. Attacking Andrew, like, my producer. I was like, can I go? Is that, like, weird? He's like, I don't know. He seems nice talking to people. And he was like, so nice. Like, he was so nice talking to everyone. Like, he. You could tell he didn't want to leave, but it's like publicist is like, pulling him. So I can't. I can't. I need, like, a picture. Like, I just like, this is like, Jonathan Bailey is like my person of the year for the past, like, five years. I was like, I. So I saw him being really nice to people. I was like, you know what? What if I'm just quickly like, selfie by? And I was like, I don't have to do an interview, guys. Just have a selfie. And he was like, so nice. He like, gorgeous smile, everything. And I really think we'll meet again. I really think we'll do, like, an interview at some point.

Cali (24:31)

And a few years ago, you would have not have had the guts to do that.

Trisha Paytas (24:36)

Yeah, my confidence.

Cali (24:37)

Very proud that you.

Trisha Paytas (24:39)

You're right.

Cali (24:39)

You shot your shot.

Trisha Paytas (24:40)

I'm. Yeah. I was like, this is my mom.

Cali (24:42)

It's the only time you could have done that.

Trisha Paytas (24:45)

Yes.

Cali (24:45)

But I do think it'll come back around.

Trisha Paytas (24:47)

And thank you to everyone who gave me the confidence on the carpet that let me interview Ethan Slater.

Cali (24:51)

I was another big name, which I've.

Trisha Paytas (24:53)

Been very, like, vocal. I've been a fan. Okay, I know. You know, whatever. I been a fan. He was very sweet. He was talking so much. My producers, like, let's wrap it up. He was talking so much because I.

Jimmy (25:03)

Was up in the balcony and I was, like, zooming in as far as I could with my camera, trying to see. And for a second from the back, I thought it was Jonathan Bailey. I thought, like, she's talking to him. He's. It's him. Like, it really looked like him, honestly. And then. Yeah. But then I was like, wow, she's getting so much time with him.

Trisha Paytas (25:18)

No, he gave a lot to Access and the person. The other outlet too. He Jonathan Bailey. But Ethan's later was so wonderful too. Everyone was very nice. And Marissa boat I talked to. Literally talked to so many people. And everyone gave me the confidence for sure. And I just. It was great. Honestly, it was great. Like, yes, of course I would love to interview Jonathan, but I wasn't even, like, sad. I was just like, I got a picture. I got to see him, like, and then, like, Jeff Goldblum was amazing. I was like. I would say, like, Jeff Goldblum to me is more iconic because I've just been such a fan for such a long time. I have loved Ethan's. Like, I love everyone. I love Bronwyn James, like, was the best interview, in my opinion. Like, that was, like, the highlight for me, so. And seeing Bowen was so wonderful. So I just. I felt cool. Anyways, we'll get to actual Hot Topics, but I just wanted to thank everyone.

Jimmy (26:01)

Topic premiere is a hot topic.

Trisha Paytas (26:03)

Well, it was. And the movie was very, very good as well.

Cali (26:06)

I can't wait to see it.

Trisha Paytas (26:07)

It's. It's really good. I love as long as you're mine. Everyone in the theater was just like, she goes into some sexy little satin.

Jimmy (26:15)

Yeah. There were a lot of, like, cheering and people were, oh, like, you got raunchy.

Trisha Paytas (26:20)

It's raunchy. No, raunchy is a bad word.

Jimmy (26:23)

Like, for. For something this. Like, just the fact that he starts to take his shirt off. People are melting in the room. Like, just a hint of them doing something.

Trisha Paytas (26:33)

He is.

Cali (26:34)

God, he is just sexiest man alive, literally.

Trisha Paytas (26:36)

He's so handsome. He is. He's so handsome. I'm not going to lie, though. Like, I guess Jeff Goldblum was sexiest man of the year at one point because he is also very handsome. Like, he is handsome in movies, but in person, we were just like, you're pretty. Pretty cute. He's pretty cute. They all were. They all were. They all were gorgeous. I mean, they're literal movie stars. I did get to see Cynthia and Ariana.

Cali (26:58)

I was. I was so excited because I thought you're going to have, like, an Ariana moment and Cynthia moment. But then if the thing didn't happen.

Trisha Paytas (27:05)

Yeah, yeah, they didn't do any. Well, she lost her voice and she lost her voice.

Cali (27:09)

She had then probably. She was on vocal rest and the security issue to.

Trisha Paytas (27:13)

Probably a lot to. Because, like, Moses, like, people, they were really tight. Like, who was coming on the red carpet? Who was. But, like, Moses wasn't on the red carpet with me at the beginning.

Jimmy (27:19)

We did the red carpet. But then when you get to work.

Trisha Paytas (27:22)

Yeah, they, like, went up and they were, like, really tight. All that. And yeah, I was. But again, to Me, like, in my head, I wasn't even like, planning on getting interviews with that one. It was a possibility because they had written questions. And then like, last minute, Lydia called me and that's. And again, I know she calls for, like, important things. Oh, no. And she's like, are you glamming? And I was like, oh, no. Like, as I'm getting ready for the premiere.

Cali (27:41)

And she.

Trisha Paytas (27:42)

Yeah, Cynthia. And I was like, oh, okay. And I was like, it was. It. I wasn't disappointed. The outlets were disappointed. Some of the outlets around us, not Hollywood, but other outlets were like, this is bust. Like, they're not doing interviews. Like, people are like, mad. And I was like, what do you mean? We just get to be here. Like, we get to be in their presence.

Cali (27:56)

I was gonna say, like, even if you didn't get any interviews, I feel like just you being there was iconic.

Trisha Paytas (28:01)

Oh, I loved all of it. John M. She was about to come down the line and then he got. He got distracted talking to other people from the films. I was ready to ask him questions. I had so many questions. But when I was on Watch what happens live earlier, speaking of New York.

Cali (28:13)

Oh, my God, that's another big thing.

Trisha Paytas (28:15)

That was great.

Cali (28:16)

I watched that on my stream and I cried. I just. When he said you were a big star, I just.

Trisha Paytas (28:21)

That was really nice. He was really nice to me. I wasn't expecting that. I was like, I don't know what to expect. But he asked me what I was manifesting next and I blurted out Met Gala. Even though that's never been like, an ambition.

Cali (28:31)

Oh, God.

Trisha Paytas (28:32)

And then like, who's Anna?

Cali (28:33)

I know.

Trisha Paytas (28:34)

Anna Wintour. But I didn't click in the moment.

Cali (28:36)

No, I saw it. I saw the wheels turning.

Trisha Paytas (28:38)

I was like, there, who's it like?

Cali (28:40)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (28:40)

Because I thought it was like one of the. Like, I knew Chrishell. I didn't know the person next to Chris.

Jimmy (28:45)

You think it's like a conversation of a person that.

Trisha Paytas (28:47)

Yes. And I'm not supposed to be the guest. So I'm also thinking, like, don't talk too much, Trish. Like, just chill because you're. I'm just the bartender. And they like, he'll throw to you like for a minute or like a second. And I thought it was me, the girl, but I was like, I also don't want to be. But I either way, saying who anybody is. But also it's. It's also awful if you don't know and you're just going along with it because what if Anna was Like, you know, someone evil or something. And I'm just like, yeah, I love her. Like, I don't know. I was just like. And I thought they would edit, but I don't think they edit.

Jimmy (29:10)

No, that was one of the best parts anyways.

Trisha Paytas (29:13)

I love Anna Wintour. I love you. And I love the Met Gallery. Respected so much. And I said that. That was about a month ago. And I said that just being like, this is crazy. Like, Trish, you're not fashion girly. Like, why would you be Matt, this year. This week, they announced.

Cali (29:25)

Oh, yes.

Trisha Paytas (29:26)

The Met Gala theme. And it is costume art.

Cali (29:30)

I mean, that's your thing.

Jimmy (29:32)

Basically saying that's cosplay.

Trisha Paytas (29:34)

Cosplay from a movie. Yeah, cosplay from a TV show. Cosplay from. I was like, this is. Okay, this is. That was crazy. And I was just like, I wouldn't.

Jimmy (29:43)

Ask you to even choose one, which would be, like, three options. You might.

Trisha Paytas (29:47)

No, I have the vision. I have the vision. We talked about it. We talked about it. Didn't we talk about it last night?

Cali (29:51)

You didn't tell me what you would be.

Trisha Paytas (29:53)

Yeah, we talked about it. I swear. No, was I not talking to you about it? I really think, like, I would go, okay, because, like, here's the thing, right? It's almost like, Okay, I don't have to explain this. Like, everyone's just showing up, right? How do you even compete with everybody? It's like, what if I just show up as, like, Troy Bolton Black Slack. Oh, yes.

Cali (30:12)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (30:13)

You know, just, like, my outfit from Bet on it. Maybe, like, I don't know, someone designs it, but it's just black pants and a black shirt.

Cali (30:19)

I love it.

Trisha Paytas (30:20)

Troy Bolton wing.

Cali (30:21)

I love it. Like, I.

Jimmy (30:22)

We did talk me rolling in the golf carts.

Trisha Paytas (30:25)

Well, that might be better.

Cali (30:27)

I love that.

Trisha Paytas (30:28)

I could just do a little. Like, I really see that for me, I really think, like, you know, again, when you're making art, you don't know what's gonna hit. You don't know what's gonna become iconic. But the amount of people who bring bet on, up to me, like, every. Everybody. Ezra, when he was on, he goes, I envision you on Dancing with Stars. And on Disney Night, we're doing Bet on it dressed as Troy Bolton.

Cali (30:46)

Like, that's so funny. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (30:48)

Like, and they had Disney Night. This is this year, and Zac Efron's brother is on Dance with the Stars. And, like, he easily could have done. Someone could have done better on it, and no one did. And I was like, period. But like, the amount of people. I'm not kidding. The amount of people bring it up at Beetlejuice, at Wicked, like Demi Lovato, his party. They're like, let's play Bet on it.

Cali (31:03)

I'm like, random, by the way.

Trisha Paytas (31:05)

Yeah. And we're all just like watching Demi bottles watching, like, Bet on it with me. And I was like, this is so crazy. And I was like, honestly, the fact that it's costume art, the number one cosplay at my shows that people do of me, the number one cost, probably I get the most like is. Is Troy Bolton, but on it. So I don't know. In my mind that's where I see it. Designers, you can, like, tell me otherwise, but I see that happening and it's crazy. Speaking of Zac Efron or what would you guys. What would you guys dress as? I guess. Yeah.

Jimmy (31:35)

Because I think grand, you know, like things that are grand. So I was thinking more like Egyptian. Like a Cleopatra. Like something from any, you know, one of those movies and.

Trisha Paytas (31:43)

Oh, for me or you?

Jimmy (31:43)

For you. An old fashioned, you know.

Trisha Paytas (31:46)

What about you?

Jimmy (31:46)

Hollywood movie.

Cali (31:47)

I feel like that doesn't fit you though, because you don't know anything about Cleopatra.

Trisha Paytas (31:50)

Well, I am King Tut. I should just go ski. Tut. Maybe that's the other one. Yeah. There's so many options. Tell me which ones I should go as. What would you do for you if.

Jimmy (32:01)

You'Re going to met Gallum from a movie?

Trisha Paytas (32:04)

Like, I guess anything, I guess.

Jimmy (32:06)

And that, like the Ten Commandments, old fashioned Moses maybe Prince of Egypt kind of thing.

Trisha Paytas (32:10)

Yeah, it's a good one. There's a musical Prince of Egypt musical we should go see. It's in. It's in Southern California. Some regional actor I follow is like, I'm in a Prince of Egypt musical. Or maybe it's a doctor.

Jimmy (32:21)

Maybe I'll use my clothes from the Wicked premiere.

Cali (32:25)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (32:25)

Oh, yeah, we love reheating nachos. Who would you be?

Cali (32:31)

I don't know who I would be. I'm trying to think.

Trisha Paytas (32:35)

Let me think for you. Costume work. You know you like cosplay.

Cali (32:38)

I'm trying to think.

Trisha Paytas (32:39)

I do.

Cali (32:39)

I dress up a lot, but I.

Jimmy (32:41)

Just don't maybe like a game you play the movie you love.

Trisha Paytas (32:44)

Oh, chicky from Friday Nights at Freddy.

Cali (32:47)

Okay, first of all, it's chica.

Trisha Paytas (32:50)

Oh, that's what Jimmy's gonna be, right? If we do costume.

Cali (32:54)

No, I thought you were gonna be chica.

Trisha Paytas (32:55)

No, I think Jimmy loves it. I think cupcake was me because I'm Pink.

Cali (33:01)

God, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe a Street Fighter, which is like a game.

Trisha Paytas (33:09)

No.

Cali (33:10)

Maybe Cammy from Street Fighter.

Trisha Paytas (33:13)

The game.

Jimmy (33:15)

Is it like Mortal Kombat kind of thing?

Cali (33:17)

Yeah, kind of thing, yes.

Trisha Paytas (33:19)

But it's not Mortal Kombat.

Cali (33:20)

But I just think that she's so cute.

Trisha Paytas (33:21)

We could do a Mortal Kombat group costume one year.

Cali (33:23)

That would actually be good because there's a lot of options for everyone.

Trisha Paytas (33:26)

Yeah.

Cali (33:26)

I feel like every time you choose a theme, it's like, there's not that many options.

Trisha Paytas (33:31)

Minecraft had so many. Like, I don't know why people weren't like the Pink Sheep.

Cali (33:35)

I almost went Pink Sheep.

Trisha Paytas (33:36)

There's so many. There were so many A, B. Like, there's so many options.

Cali (33:41)

It's basic, everyone.

Jimmy (33:42)

I know. We did good with that one.

Trisha Paytas (33:44)

I thought so too.

Cali (33:44)

I ate Hunger Games was great.

Trisha Paytas (33:46)

I've been picking out great themes, so I don't know what you're talking about.

Cali (33:49)

Well.

Trisha Paytas (33:51)

Zac Efron was I Dancing with the Stars last night. Whitney went home from Secret Lives. Mormon wives. I love Whitney. So no Whitney. Slander.

Cali (34:00)

Oh, sorry.

Trisha Paytas (34:02)

I love her. She was great. Zac Efron was finally in the ballroom, which I think is why Dylan is casted. Right. Like, I mean, I'm assuming that's why. Probably just like, I would like to.

Cali (34:13)

Be casted as Trisha Paytas's sister.

Trisha Paytas (34:15)

Yeah.

Cali (34:15)

Oh.

Trisha Paytas (34:17)

Maybe soon. Maybe I'm dancing the stars before me. That would.

Cali (34:21)

Or I. You know what I'll even do? Claim to fame.

Trisha Paytas (34:23)

Oh, I love claim to fame. That's true. I at first was gonna be like. But I'm not really, like, a celebrity. But some of those people were, like, stretching it.

Cali (34:31)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (34:31)

I don't know if we. It was like. Was it like Dean Martin's like, fifth granddaughters? I'm like, okay, well, like, the problem.

Jimmy (34:38)

If you're too close, people find out quickly. They're like, oh, we know her.

Trisha Paytas (34:41)

Yeah.

Cali (34:43)

Not a good liar. So I don't know if I'd be good on that show, but I would love to do it.

Trisha Paytas (34:47)

Yeah. So it would. It benefits people when you don't know who the celebrity is. Like, when someone.

Cali (34:51)

What do you even win on that show?

Trisha Paytas (34:53)

I think a hundred thousand.

Cali (34:54)

I'll take it. I'll try it.

Trisha Paytas (34:55)

I think Kiki Palmer's sister won. Donny Asmund's son was on there.

Cali (34:58)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (34:59)

That season I watched Donny as one's like, so famous. But they're also young on that show. So I think, like, they've gotta get hands.

Cali (35:04)

That's my only, my only fear. I don't know a lot of names. I'd have to get. I have to be fed.

Trisha Paytas (35:09)

They. I think they feed them because even me, I know. I know so many celebrities. I'm just like, that's Donnie.

Jimmy (35:15)

They give it away. They give like a lunchbox that pretty much had like, oh, yeah, their faces scratch the show can navigate.

Cali (35:22)

And I'm like, I'm sorry, they don't know. Donnie and Marie, they're 18 years.

Trisha Paytas (35:25)

No, that's even like, before my generation or my generation. Like.

Cali (35:28)

Like, I know, like, some of the faces, but, like, I couldn't tell you the name at all. Like, but how do you remember. How do you know the name?

Trisha Paytas (35:35)

Yeah, like, Moses knew. One of the winners was the Curb youb Enthusiasm's daughter.

Jimmy (35:38)

That actor from Kirby J. Novak.

Trisha Paytas (35:41)

Oh, no, not BJ Novak. He's from Office. You know, Smooth.

Jimmy (35:47)

It's the same thing.

Trisha Paytas (35:47)

B.J.

Cali (35:48)

Smooth.

Jimmy (35:48)

Yeah, something like that.

Trisha Paytas (35:49)

Oh, like, didn't know, but he knew. He's like, oh, it's the actor from Kirby Enthusiasm, but you don't know the name. So it's like, whatever. But anyways, back to Zac Efron. He is in Dancing the Stars first night, and you know, they gave him all nines. They gave Dylan Efron all nines. And they cut to Zach Efron in the crowd, and he literally goes to their mom. I think it's their mom. And he's like, are those good schools?

Cali (36:09)

Yeah. Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (36:10)

Who read the lips? Yeah. Then he's like, no. People are like, he's never seen it. Even though Dylan's been on like all these weeks and stuff. So it was so funny. I. I love Zac Efron. I do. He's another, like, dream, dream guest. I just love him. I do think he's iconic. He's just wonderful. I love that he came finally to the show. I think that's why everyone was, like, waiting for him to show up. That's nice that he support.

Jimmy (36:36)

Yeah. He waited for the final. Like, it needed to be a moment. Like, okay, if I come, I should come to the final. Something significant.

Trisha Paytas (36:43)

Yeah. What was the, like, semifinals? There's still four left.

Jimmy (36:46)

I guess they call it final.

Trisha Paytas (36:47)

Oh, is it? Oh, so they're like the final four.

Jimmy (36:49)

How they said it? Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (36:50)

Yeah.

Cali (36:51)

Do you think that it's a little rigged or do you think it's all votes?

Jimmy (36:56)

I think in general, all shows are rigged.

Trisha Paytas (36:58)

Oh, okay. I mean, allegedly. His opinion, in your opinion? It's Hard to tell. I don't know. Yeah, I get it. I don't know. I don't know.

Jimmy (37:07)

Because. Because Rick doesn't have to be that they're cheating. It also could be just how they portray a person, how they make the audience feel about somebody, the editing. So there's so many ways for them to sway opinion.

Trisha Paytas (37:18)

But, yeah, like, when I did somebody. Big brother, the person who was subject for me, same. The person who. Who. Who won. Her name was Sarah. She's.

Jimmy (37:30)

She.

Trisha Paytas (37:31)

She's passed away, and it's, like, really sad. But. But anyways, she's. She was the most famous, so it makes sense that she would be, like, lined up to win. But she was up for elimination every single night, too, as was I. And they never had her pack her bags. And so, like, they're always, like, telling us to pack our bags, whatever. And, like, she never did. And shake. I don't need to. And I was like, oh, okay. So then she ended up winning.

Cali (37:48)

You could have won because.

Jimmy (37:49)

Because the goal is rating, not necessarily finding the best dancer, right? So if they feel somebody gets more rating, because we saw it with all the. Is it Bachelor? Like, all the different shows, the people that were the most get the most rise for somebody, and it's kind of rage bait. They would keep them all the way to the end of the show. And you're like, why is this person still here? Like, everyone hates them. Like, they don't even like the contestants. Like.

Trisha Paytas (38:11)

But I do want to say, I think, like, Andy Richter probably stayed longer than anyone anticipated, because I do think the fans, like, rallied behind him, because at first, I was like, who's gonna vote for Andy Richter? Like, he's. He's older. He doesn't dance as well. Like, no one knows him from the Conan show, but, like, he gave so much heart and stuff, and I was like, you know what? I love that people rallied behind him because Grant, I don't think he was, like. I think he was over it at a certain point. But, I mean, people just really wanted him to stay because he was just giving so much heart. And, yeah, Elaine Hendricks is still in it, which is great. I, like, love her so much. I just. I love seeing, like. I don't want to say older women, but, like, women past 25, like, thriving, because, you know, we're all getting there, God willing, and it's a great thing, and I love to see the thriving of it all.

Jimmy (38:47)

But did Zac Efron ever wrote a book?

Trisha Paytas (38:51)

Did he write a book?

Jimmy (38:52)

Does he have a book? Something?

Trisha Paytas (38:53)

No, I don't think so.

Jimmy (38:54)

I think that's when he'll have a book and then I'll come on the show to promote it.

Trisha Paytas (38:57)

Oh, okay.

Jimmy (38:59)

Get on it.

Trisha Paytas (39:00)

I love it.

Jimmy (39:01)

Write the book.

Trisha Paytas (39:01)

He's pretty private. I don't know if he's gonna be writing a book anytime either. Yeah, I think when you're like such a good actor, you don't.

Jimmy (39:08)

Well, it doesn't have to be about. But it could be just about movies and things and experience. But anyway, because. Because then the episode with Nia was such a great episode and I feel like anyone that has books and that's kind of.

Trisha Paytas (39:19)

Well, Nia's a superstar. That was like, not even a question. Even when someone said Nia came to my show at the Greek, which she like, confirmed, I was like, gag. Because I'm like, to me, dance moms is such. This part of like pulp culture explosion, like the whole thing, the Abbey, leave it all. And she was like, just so honest. Her book was so real. Like, yeah. To me that was like a no. No brainer. And she was so wonderful. She came to Beetlejuice. Nia, it was like so sweet because she was just starting her book tour here, her book signing tour, and like in New York, and she was like, so busy. She's New York Times bestselling author. Like, she did the Empire stable. Yeah. She was so busy and I was so shook. She came. I was like, no, she's so nice, so sweet. No, she is like a super superstar. I really do think she'll just like. And she's just so talented and so smart. And I loved that episode. That's why with guests, it's like, we don't do guest episodes often, but when we do, it's like people that I really love and I really love. She. It was so much fun. But maybe Zac Efron.

Cali (40:14)

You know what? You. You could be an interviewer. You could easily take this job.

Trisha Paytas (40:20)

Which job?

Cali (40:21)

Julianne Hough's job.

Trisha Paytas (40:24)

Okay, well, I don't even know if I'd want to be like a. Why not?

Cali (40:26)

You'd be so good.

Trisha Paytas (40:27)

I would want to be like, like.

Cali (40:31)

I guess like a wedding. To be on a. Oh, a talk show.

Trisha Paytas (40:34)

Red carpet. Yeah. I don't know.

Cali (40:38)

Just be like Ryan Seacrest and do it all.

Trisha Paytas (40:40)

Yeah.

Cali (40:40)

Why say why? Limit.

Trisha Paytas (40:42)

That's a great one. I would love to be like a Rosie o' Donnell too, where she had a talk show, but she's also doing like, carry at the Spy and like Grease on Broadway. I mean, she really was doing it all. But I like the Ryan Seacrest. He really, he really does. People always says, how many hours a day do you have? And I was like, how many hours in the day does Ryan Seacrest? I don't have. Like, how is he doing a morning show? Wheel of Fortune? He was doing Ryan and Kelly. Like, he was doing like everything. His radio show, American Idol.

Cali (41:03)

I'm like, that's crazy. That's huge.

Jimmy (41:05)

When you film content, it's so compressed. So if you do it the same way you do a 9 to 5 job, you're pretty much on air all the time, you know.

Trisha Paytas (41:13)

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Cali (43:02)

Yeah, I guess so.

Trisha Paytas (43:02)

I don't know. It's.

Jimmy (43:03)

It's the amount of content you put out there is equal to that the amount of hours a week.

Trisha Paytas (43:09)

Yeah, I guess you're right. I do. I do love making content. I am like a machine. I know. Tana's always like, she came early. She was here at like 11am that day. And she's like, I don't know how you get everything done. She's like, Trisha's doing like a. A tree lighting ceremony, cutting the rib into the store, getting the key. Like, she's like, she's doing that. Which is true.

Cali (43:25)

You don't give yourself enough credit. I always say that. I just, I don't know how you have three kids under three and do all of the things that you do well with always.

Trisha Paytas (43:34)

I always say with help. I always have a lot of help with it and I love it and I thrive because of everyone around me and the kids are happy and I'm happy and it's just, it's really great. Yeah. I never want people to think it's like easy, you know, some when people are just like, oh, like, you know, I just do it. I do everything. I do a lot, but I do have a lot. You helping, you know, everybody, everyone pitches in and it's wonderful as long as the kids are happy.

Cali (43:56)

You just never run out of ideas though either.

Trisha Paytas (43:59)

Never.

Cali (44:00)

The list is always growing.

Trisha Paytas (44:01)

I have more and more all the time. That is one thing I never do. I always just want to keep doing more. I'm like, I will never stop running out of ideas. One thing I can't do though. You said like, you can never do Broadway. One thing I can't do that you do very well is hair. And hair extensions. You've always been a queen. And my sister would do hair extensions for me and eyelashes for $5.

Cali (44:26)

$5? Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (44:28)

She would edit my videos for $5. She would do my hair.

Cali (44:30)

Everything was $5.

Trisha Paytas (44:31)

You do an exchange.

Jimmy (44:32)

The original at that website when you pay $5.

Trisha Paytas (44:36)

That is so tea. You would do mom's extensions and change for your Extensions. My sister would work a job at, like, what was it, the credit card company? There was some company did. Where's the credit?

Cali (44:46)

Oh, God. Yeah. I hate that place. Okay, what was it? I'm not even going to give him a shout out.

Trisha Paytas (44:53)

You don't give a shout out. But what were you doing?

Jimmy (44:55)

Job?

Trisha Paytas (44:55)

It was.

Cali (44:56)

I was in an administrative assistant for some credit.

Trisha Paytas (44:59)

No. Or was it a hair? Was it a hair color match?

Cali (45:02)

Why? I had multiple jobs.

Trisha Paytas (45:03)

Okay. One job. You would, like, work all day, and you were, like, talking to people, and then you'd, like, come.

Cali (45:06)

Well, that was all of my job.

Trisha Paytas (45:08)

Well, then you'd come to my beach apartment and you would do my extensions, and it'd be, like, in Cali, working a full day, and then be, like, nighttime, and then she's, like, decorating my apartment for fall. And then she's like, okay, let me, like, move up these extensions. And I guess I must have paid. You must. I had money back then. I was not money, but I had some money coming in.

Cali (45:22)

I must have paid you something. I think it was like, 200.

Trisha Paytas (45:24)

Really? Okay, that's. That's pretty good.

Cali (45:26)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (45:27)

Wasn't $4,000.

Cali (45:28)

Well, I'll take the 200.

Trisha Paytas (45:30)

Well. So hair by Chrissy. You know Chrissy. Did you know about her?

Cali (45:34)

Oh, I knew about her back in 2020.

Trisha Paytas (45:36)

So she was like. She's like the Pinterest. Well, at first I didn't know, like, the face or anything. I just, like, heard the name, and I remember, like, at all the girls in Orange County, I think when they're like, Savannah LeBron, like, everyone. It was a very specific type of girl. I'd go there. It was like a girl who wanted a blonde balayage with full extensions.

Cali (45:51)

Goes there. That's giving.

Trisha Paytas (45:52)

That. It's giving real houses. Orange County. Oh, they do, yeah.

Cali (45:55)

Taylor, Frankie, Paul went there.

Trisha Paytas (45:56)

Yeah. I feel like. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. So she's that girl that's, like, just on all the Pinterest boards, just balayage for days and as.

Cali (46:03)

Okay, balayage and extension.

Trisha Paytas (46:04)

Yeah. And it's like, all right, cute. And I liked it. I mean, I like the colors and it looks pretty or whatever like that. But she. My whole fyp, like, look. I haven't really been on social media that much since I've been here, truly. Because, like, again, I'm just, like, trying to, like, soak it all in. Which is another great thing about New York is, like, I feel like I'm here a limited amount of time, so I'm Like, I don't want to waste my time on Very present. Yeah, very present, which is great. And so I'm like, not on tick tock as much, but when I was. No matter what time of day, it was Hair by Chrissy. Hair by Crispy or Chrissy.

Cali (46:29)

Chrissy. But back in 2020, she was going viral for like, breaking people's hair off. And that's why it was Hair by Crispy.

Trisha Paytas (46:37)

But was she calling herself Hair by Chris?

Cali (46:38)

No. Everyone else is calling her Hair by Crispy.

Trisha Paytas (46:41)

But what was her originally. It's always been Hair by Chrissy. That's always been her name.

Cali (46:44)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (46:45)

Did she rebrand since then?

Cali (46:46)

No.

Trisha Paytas (46:47)

Oh. But they're calling Hairbrickers because she was allegedly breaking off here.

Cali (46:50)

Yes. Mm.

Trisha Paytas (46:52)

Yeah. Well, now she. My whole VIP was like, I hadn't even seen the original video, but I saw Tanner talking. I saw like, everybody talking about it. Tana, Kayla, Malik, like, everybody weighing in with their opinion. And then I was like, then I finally saw the original video. But it was basically what she. Influenza. I don't know. Just a 20 year old girl that got her hair done.

Cali (47:09)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (47:09)

She was going through the itemized list of how much everything, cost totaling $4,000. Now, I originally thought or heard even that it was including the hair, but this was not including.

Cali (47:19)

That wasn't including the hair.

Trisha Paytas (47:20)

From what I saw. It wasn't. It was not.

Cali (47:22)

I want to know how much they charge for the hair.

Trisha Paytas (47:24)

The. Okay, so this is what. This is what I saw. And like, like, I'm like 99% right. And like, fact check. And Jimmy, you can put a little note if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is like, Right. She brought in her own hair. Like, they didn't buy it for her. She brought in the hair that's just.

Cali (47:38)

For the color cotton.

Trisha Paytas (47:39)

Yeah. Either it was all on or because they charged for a move up. Or maybe they charged with inside. I think it was a move up. Actually. It was like 950 for a move up. And so, like, that alone.

Cali (47:50)

Not crazy.

Trisha Paytas (47:51)

Fine.

Cali (47:51)

Whatever. I'm. I'm very. This can be a hot take. I'm very for. Let's charge what you think you're worth. That doesn't necessarily mean that anyone's going to go and pay that price.

Trisha Paytas (48:04)

I think that's ripping people off. I think that's like, I have a name. So pay $4,000 for the service is.

Cali (48:11)

First of all, if you're going to Gilbert, Arizona to get your hair done.

Trisha Paytas (48:14)

Is that where that's A big problem.

Cali (48:16)

Why are you going to Arizona to get your hair done, first of all, for $4,000.

Trisha Paytas (48:20)

Okay, Arizona hate over here.

Cali (48:21)

I'm just saying. Fine. New York, la. Yeah, I. Am I going to a celebrity stylist? For sure. She doesn't even do celebrities. She does influencers.

Trisha Paytas (48:31)

Right.

Cali (48:32)

I'm not dogging on that. But I'm just saying how I would.

Trisha Paytas (48:34)

Get that for any other thing, right? Like, okay, if you're sponsored and you're going, you're getting sponsored by a huge corporation. Like, I don't know, I don't know, Amazon, okay, Charge them so much money, right? But it's like these are just like people. These are just humans. They're not celebrities, they're not influencers. This is just a person. Maybe she was an influencer. But charging $4,000 and okay, $4,000 for a single hair appointment.

Cali (48:54)

But if people are willing to pay that, then fine. My issue is she came over, touched her hair for about 60 seconds, that.

Trisha Paytas (49:02)

Part, and then walked away. Okay, so that is. That's so real. Yeah, like you, like. What do you mean? You should be doing this blow drying, the styling, like everything, like from start to finish. Yeah. That is crazy because also the assistants. She said four people like touched her hair or something. That wasn't Chrissy. And she's like, you know, those assistants aren't getting like a percentage, they're like getting promotion there. She's probably like, you're getting introduced to clients and experience and all this other tell people. So I think that was probably like the other issue too. So I get what you're saying. Okay, 4,000. 4,000 is crazy.

Cali (49:34)

Well, her, her Chrissy fee is like three grand alone. So it's not even, it's not even the service that costs that much. It's just her doing it. And she didn't even do it.

Trisha Paytas (49:45)

Yeah, and she even do it. I guess that my only. My biggest issue with it is like, yeah, that's crazy. I'm with everybody else being like, I've been to the most expensive hair salons and never once have paid $4,000.

Cali (49:55)

I would never pay that.

Trisha Paytas (49:56)

Maybe with hair. Okay, if you. They bought the hair for you.

Cali (49:58)

Bought the hair. Yeah, okay, maybe.

Trisha Paytas (50:01)

But it was Chrissy's reaction to this girl. The girl was like, really? Like, did you watch the original video?

Cali (50:07)

I did.

Trisha Paytas (50:07)

The girl was like, pretty sweet. Like, it was definitely just like, this is like, what If I were her.

Cali (50:13)

I wouldn't have paid. I would have been like, take the Chrissy thing off.

Trisha Paytas (50:16)

Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. And then she was like, she goes like she didn't want to fix it. Like, basically she was like, what? You know, like she wasn't like happy with it. Like, she didn't offer anything. She was just like, that's what it is.

Cali (50:25)

Shadow Root was too. I recently I have gotten my hair done, so I'm very. Yeah, I feel for this girl.

Trisha Paytas (50:32)

Yeah, you just got your hair done. And I just look like it.

Cali (50:34)

My hair done. And it doesn't look like.

Trisha Paytas (50:36)

And she knew. She was like, she didn't know.

Cali (50:38)

And she tried to fix it or she wanted to fix it. And I just like my hair was breaking at that point.

Trisha Paytas (50:42)

I'm just like. And you were sitting there for three hours.

Cali (50:44)

So you're just like, I'm gonna take the L on this and just, you know.

Trisha Paytas (50:48)

Yeah.

Cali (50:48)

Deal with whatever.

Trisha Paytas (50:49)

She was like, you don't have to pay when you know. You know, and then when you're just like.

Cali (50:52)

And I feel. I felt bad for her because she knew too, you know?

Trisha Paytas (50:56)

Yeah. I love when people write. That is always. Yeah, there is nice.

Cali (51:00)

There's a way to go about things. If I was Chrissy, I would have refunded her.

Trisha Paytas (51:05)

Yeah. Especially if you're charging everyone $4,000. Okay.

Cali (51:07)

You're making a lot of money, you know.

Trisha Paytas (51:09)

Yeah.

Cali (51:09)

And then come in and I'll fix the shadow route.

Trisha Paytas (51:11)

Yeah, it is.

Cali (51:12)

Pop in a few more foils.

Trisha Paytas (51:14)

I go to like a real bougie. Real bougie, like overly bougie place and not even a quarter of that. And Grant, I just get like highlights. But still, it's like, it is crazy. It's actually so wild. But then her reaction, Chrissy, to this girl was just like mocking her and just like pointed made merge.

Cali (51:32)

And you're like hair in 4K.

Trisha Paytas (51:34)

Yeah. You're like, this is a 20 year old. You're. You are in your 40s. And like, I'm not. And the reason we put age into this, right. Like, I'm not. I don't like to be an ageist because again, God willing, we all age and it's a beautiful thing. But like, even me, like when, like in my early 30s, talking about like influencers who are like 18, 19 and criticizing them, it's just like, what are you doing? I mean, they're young influencers. Like, let's not be. You don't need to be crazy on them. You know what I mean? And so that's how it felt. It just feels a little like a little Ick. Like. Like a little bullying. And Also, like, you're 40 and you're charging, or, you know, you're almost 50 and you're charging 4,000, you're making money. She's not. She's clearly, like, struggling. She's not happy. And you're, like, making fun. It's like a bad look on you. Like, it just looks embarrassing. Like, what. What are you doing? Making merch.

Cali (52:15)

Even when you get Botox and you don't like it, they ask, they tell you to come back and they'll put.

Trisha Paytas (52:20)

More in two weeks if you want a little more. Yeah, they'll do it. Gross. Because again, like, if you have a name and you are charging all this money, it's like, that's just a bad look. Like, just I.

Jimmy (52:30)

Business decision.

Trisha Paytas (52:31)

Yeah.

Jimmy (52:31)

Like, just how you run your business. Because hair is a sensitive issue. Because you can't.

Trisha Paytas (52:36)

Yeah.

Jimmy (52:36)

You know, you go for the first time somewhere, it gets messed up. That happens, and you never go back to that person or it takes time till you find your hairdresser. It takes a long time. So for her, I'm like, okay, this person did not match with you. They're not going to come back. Let it go.

Trisha Paytas (52:49)

Like, let it go.

Jimmy (52:50)

Like, making anything, any. Why are you shining more light into your failure and showing how awful you are as a person in this situation? Like, yeah, it's okay that it didn't work out fine. Like, refine her another founder. However you guys decide to do it, you lost the customer. You lost the customer. You didn't do a good job. That's the end of it. This sounds weird because she's not going to make from the merchant that's gonna make the money she makes from the hair. Like, why are you doing this?

Trisha Paytas (53:15)

To just be mean. Like, to be weird and, like, malicious. You're like, what?

Cali (53:18)

You know what I think? I think that she only has, like, one and done clients anyway, and that's why she's charging so much.

Trisha Paytas (53:25)

Right. They go for the name and then, like, I think.

Cali (53:27)

I think they only go one time because that's really. I couldn't even afford it one time. But people probably can only afford it the one time.

Trisha Paytas (53:34)

If so.

Cali (53:35)

And that's why she charges so much, because she knows that's not gonna be.

Trisha Paytas (53:37)

Yeah. If someone told me $4,000, I'd be like, like, bye. No. People try to upcharge me all the time.

Cali (53:42)

Especially, you can get 20 packs of hair from Hidden Crown for four grand.

Trisha Paytas (53:48)

No, I know. It's just like, no. As soon as people upcharge me. And I know. I know what glam costs. So even here, I've worked with great glam people here. I love them. Reasonable. But if someone's like, $2,000 for glam and glow makeup, I'm like, bye. And like, well, what's your budget? I want to work with you. No, that's actually insane.

Cali (54:02)

What do you mean?

Trisha Paytas (54:04)

And people. And like you said, some people do pay it. Like, there's. There's some makeup artists in L. A that will charge $10,000 for your wedding. I've heard one charge $20,000. And maybe, like, really rich people will pay it. They don't think anything of it. Fine. But when you try to, like, scam me or something, especially, like, all my stuff's out of pocket anyways. It doesn't even matter. But it's like, I don't like that. Like, don't be. Don't be scammy. I'm not a Kardashian. And by the way, Kardashians don't pay that. Kardashians. I know exactly what Kardashians pay, and not anywhere close to that. So they're trying to scam the average person because they work with, like, Kardashians and stuff like that. And it's like. Like, I don't like that. And so if someone charged me 4,000, I'd be like, even the slot I go to, like, it is expensive. Again, it's not that much, but it's like, you know, I like the quality. And he's like, super nice and like, whatever. But it's like, if you're not touching my hair the entire time, Jesus is not touching my hair the entire time. Like, it's like. What do you mean? Like, I don't know. I don't. I don't like it. And I don't like that response because, like, you said, I liked hair. Like, I didn't know about, like, hairbrookers. I just knew about, like, the pictures. Okay, cute. But now all we think about is, like, you know, I mean, like, what do you mean?

Cali (55:02)

I knew she was always one. I did. I did. Because the way she was in 2020.

Trisha Paytas (55:09)

Wait, what happened in 2020? Oh, but what happened? She was like.

Cali (55:13)

She was a too.

Trisha Paytas (55:14)

But she was just like, all right, I don't care. Yeah, pretty much.

Cali (55:17)

And she went about her life, obviously. And now she still has clients, so.

Jimmy (55:21)

Maybe it's better she didn't put her hands on.

Cali (55:22)

So maybe.

Jimmy (55:23)

Yeah, that's why this business succeeded, because she hired other People to do the job.

Trisha Paytas (55:27)

Like, I'm going to get someone who can't break off hair, allegedly. But we never want to care about Christy. But I think I'm going to.

Cali (55:32)

Also, her salon is part of, like, an education, too. On her. Her sign, it says education, too. And I'm like, is this a school also?

Trisha Paytas (55:42)

She's just training people. I mean, probably better note, if anyone.

Cali (55:45)

Wants a hack, you should go to beauty schools to get your hair done. They do very well.

Trisha Paytas (55:49)

That's true. You were doing people's hair there.

Cali (55:50)

Oh, I had a line out the door for me.

Trisha Paytas (55:53)

You see Moses hair. Remember Moses had, like, a crazy hair.

Cali (55:56)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (55:56)

What was it?

Cali (55:57)

But I wanted. I. He didn't want me to put bleach on the scalp, and I wanted to.

Trisha Paytas (56:01)

But what was it that you were saving it from?

Jimmy (56:03)

No. So I got my first haircut, and it was horrendous. And then. And then I was like, we need to save this somehow. And I felt like the only way to save it was actually to bleach my hair. To, like, go.

Trisha Paytas (56:16)

That's so funny. That's. Yeah.

Jimmy (56:18)

She just came over, like, in the middle of the night and bleached my hand.

Trisha Paytas (56:21)

We're leaving the next day for Maui.

Jimmy (56:22)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (56:23)

Oh, my God. No. We knew this person so well. This person was so good at hair, and the haircut was crazy. I think even he knew.

Cali (56:29)

I'm just like, oh, my God.

Jimmy (56:31)

Because it was like this big reveal, and then everyone was like, oh, no.

Cali (56:34)

It was not everybody.

Jimmy (56:35)

Including the person.

Trisha Paytas (56:37)

Yeah. We're like.

Jimmy (56:38)

And they ran away so fast.

Trisha Paytas (56:41)

Like, we need you. And you had your long hair for so long. And I was kind of convincing him, like, let's cut it. Let's do it. And then I was like, oh, no, I know that was bad.

Jimmy (56:49)

But then I loved the bleach look. I loved it, like, in Hawaii and, like, the whole thing. I loved it.

Cali (56:56)

I. Yeah. I don't usually do men's hair, but I. I pulled it together for you because I couldn't leave you like that on your face.

Trisha Paytas (57:03)

Yeah. But then you look cool. You did the blue, too. That kind of looks cool. And Maui. We like that.

Cali (57:08)

But. Yeah, don't go to Hair by Chrissy if you don't want to. I just feel bad. Do.

Trisha Paytas (57:13)

I guess.

Cali (57:14)

But don't. Don't go there. Why are you spending four grand on hair?

Trisha Paytas (57:20)

I would say don't spend four grand on hair for anything unless you're getting.

Cali (57:23)

Never done it. You've never done it.

Trisha Paytas (57:24)

Never.

Cali (57:25)

I would never Even if I had the money, I would never.

Trisha Paytas (57:28)

Like, I can't even think of anybody. Not like we're talking about even Chris Appleton. Like I'd be like, not even Chris. Like nobody. Like nobody, nobody.

Jimmy (57:36)

And I'm sure weddings, people do pay that because weddings always. It's like 10 times more than what it's supposed to be.

Trisha Paytas (57:42)

I know, I hate that too.

Cali (57:43)

Unless they're doing like all of my bridesmaids too. Then I of get that how many.

Trisha Paytas (57:47)

Bridesmaids I should be.

Cali (57:48)

It would just be you. But I don't have. I wouldn't have that many.

Trisha Paytas (57:51)

That was me for my wedding. My costs were low. I just. You and mom and that's fine. Yeah.

Cali (57:56)

Worked out.

Trisha Paytas (57:56)

Have you seen the mat teacher?

Cali (57:58)

Who?

Trisha Paytas (57:58)

The art teacher who looks like Kevin James.

Jimmy (58:01)

Yeah.

Cali (58:01)

Have you? I haven't.

Trisha Paytas (58:03)

Okay. He looks okay. So everyone is just like, what is happening? He's like an English teacher or Matt, look.

Jimmy (58:08)

It's totally a glitch in the metrics. Oh.

Trisha Paytas (58:14)

No. Isn't that crazy?

Jimmy (58:17)

Be like, is that AI? Is he trolling us?

Trisha Paytas (58:20)

Yeah.

Jimmy (58:22)

Maybe. It's like David, he always wanted to be a teacher and he actually got the job.

Cali (58:26)

They say everyone has a doppelganger.

Trisha Paytas (58:29)

And like look at a bunch of his.

Jimmy (58:32)

How do you leave your life real?

Trisha Paytas (58:34)

He sounds just like him.

Cali (58:35)

This is not real. Why? Accent too?

Trisha Paytas (58:39)

Yeah.

Jimmy (58:39)

How does he walk about life and like constantly being.

Cali (58:42)

Does he get stopped?

Trisha Paytas (58:43)

Look. And then he has to pages like him like his teacher. Crazy, right?

Cali (58:50)

Blown.

Trisha Paytas (58:51)

So he was going viral and everyone's like, oh my God. That like sounds just like Kevin James. Looks like Kevin James. It's like so insane. And this like, this also consumed me. My mind was hair by Chrissy and this Matt Taylor. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is so wild. And yeah, he said like people are just like, no, this is Kevin James for sure.

Jimmy (59:08)

I think it is.

Trisha Paytas (59:08)

Shout out Jimmy for loving Kevin James. I feel like we have to bring it up just for Jimmy say because he. He loves it. Kevin James. Well, I do because we saw a.

Jimmy (59:14)

Poster of a movie.

Trisha Paytas (59:16)

Yeah, we saw a poster at some movie.

Jimmy (59:19)

Kevin James.

Trisha Paytas (59:20)

And mom loves Kevin James. There is a huge Kevin James fan mother that we have found out. But that's crazy. Yeah.

Cali (59:26)

Has he said anything about it?

Trisha Paytas (59:28)

Kevin James. Have you seen anything about it?

Jimmy (59:31)

No, I just saw those clips and I was just like, he's pulling a stunt or something. Is it. Is there a new movie? Like, is he a teacher in a new movie or something? Like, how did we not Hear about this before.

Trisha Paytas (59:38)

He's a teacher in a new movie.

Cali (59:40)

Wait, is that him?

Trisha Paytas (59:42)

Yes. Well, I didn't know either. I was like, wait, that looks just like him. And then yes, it is a reveal that he is playing a teacher in his new movie where he gets the altar.

Cali (59:54)

You're sick for that. I was really.

Trisha Paytas (59:56)

No, but me too. I was like, wait. And I showed mom like God, this guy looks like Kevin James. Like it did consume me for like an entire week. And then I felt also so silly.

Jimmy (60:03)

Sorry. Cuz my logic. Cuz my brain is just like logical. I'm like, well if that was the case, we would have heard about this person before.

Cali (60:09)

I thought that he would have said something too. And I was like, why? Does he have the same accent?

Trisha Paytas (60:14)

Yeah, he literally sounded exactly. Well, I thought maybe you guys knew. That's why I was like, oh, okay.

Jimmy (60:17)

I was like, no, I didn't know.

Cali (60:18)

You didn't know either?

Jimmy (60:19)

No, cuz I. I saw it briefly and I browsed through it because it wasn't like. I was just like, okay, somebody looks like him. But now when you're showing him talking and all that.

Cali (60:27)

No, that guy looked identical to you.

Jimmy (60:29)

When I heard him talk just now, I was just like, wait a minute. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (60:31)

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Cali (63:02)

Now you.

Jimmy (63:05)

I just said it. Roll back the tape. Jim. I just said a minute ago. No, I just saw those clips and I was just like he's pulling a stunt or something. Is it. Is there a new movie? Like is he a teacher in a new movie or something? Like I like there's no way it's not him.

Trisha Paytas (63:17)

Now I guess now people do know because they looked up like the current movies that he had coming out and does play. He plays someone who gets like left at the altar and then he goes on like a Eat Pray Love thing. So that's kind of I guess his storyline. But shout out Kevin James, you got me on that one.

Cali (63:32)

Got me too.

Trisha Paytas (63:33)

Also in news that nobody asked for. Vine is coming back. Love to hear this.

Cali (63:38)

Why don't you like Vine?

Trisha Paytas (63:39)

Why do you like Vine?

Cali (63:41)

Because it's gonna demolish TikTok.

Trisha Paytas (63:43)

You want more Logan Paul's and David Dobrik's in the world?

Cali (63:45)

No, but I don't want TikTok anymore.

Jimmy (63:47)

But it has a new name.

Trisha Paytas (63:48)

Divine Divine the rebranding like hair By Chrissy.

Jimmy (63:52)

But I think the thing about this platform is that they're not going to allow AI.

Cali (63:56)

That is a huge deal.

Jimmy (63:57)

Yeah, I think that's the main thing about this platform.

Trisha Paytas (64:00)

Oh, what? I don't get it. Other.

Cali (64:03)

So they will not allow any videos.

Jimmy (64:05)

Of AI because now even you go in through TikTok, everything's AI, Twitter, everything. Like you sometimes you see something is like, wait a minute, is it not? And you go to the comments, try to figure out, you know, this bear, really push a dolphin out of the cliff or what? Like, what's on. Your.

Trisha Paytas (64:23)

Mom needs to get on Divine because she. And she believes everything. I believe a lot of it too.

Jimmy (64:27)

But because Facebook, we're not on Facebook. At Facebook, half of it is AI like videos and people believe stuff. Like you're telling me. I know it looks like disasters and animal things and all kind of stuff. And people buy into it. They're just watching it as if this is normal Facebook.

Trisha Paytas (64:42)

Or me with the floors, remember? I was like, I want those cherry blossom floors. And Oscar, literally, his favorite game to play is like, right. That's definitely not real.

Cali (64:50)

No, mom will show me things. She's like, should we buy this? I'm like, that's not a real photo.

Trisha Paytas (64:54)

Even Tick tock ads are AI now with the K Pop Demon Hunter dolls. Like, it looks so real. Like they'll be like getting gifts from their moms. And I'm like, this is all fake. Like, what do you mean?

Jimmy (65:02)

Yeah, because I think one of the. Somebody got an animal for Malibu and I remember seeing the ad for it on and it was.

Trisha Paytas (65:10)

Yeah.

Jimmy (65:11)

And it looks like the animal is just alive. It's just like, wow. Wow, this is such a cool little animal to get.

Trisha Paytas (65:16)

Oh, my God.

Jimmy (65:16)

But then the thing is actually just like hardly moves.

Trisha Paytas (65:19)

Yeah, I know. I don't like it. I do not like this at all. I just can't imagine. I just don't want Vine. I don't, I don't. I didn't like vine then, I don't like it now. I hope it's not like a six second because you know it's not going to be just a six second thing. It's going to be like they're going.

Cali (65:33)

To model it like Tik Tok.

Jimmy (65:35)

Right?

Cali (65:35)

Because TikTok is changing for the worse.

Trisha Paytas (65:38)

Why? Okay, what is with your Van Dan again? You know why?

Cali (65:41)

Because I'm always getting banned for no reason on there.

Jimmy (65:44)

Wait, what?

Cali (65:45)

I'm always getting restricted. They won't push my content out on. What are you why?

Trisha Paytas (65:50)

Why?

Cali (65:50)

Because they say I have unoriginal content.

Trisha Paytas (65:52)

Oh.

Cali (65:53)

So if you're watching TikTok, I hate you don't get banned now.

Trisha Paytas (65:58)

You are gonna get banned now.

Jimmy (65:58)

You're gonna be on there in black streaming a game. They think the content of the game to them looks like.

Cali (66:03)

I. I don't know. I think what has happening, they're using also I think they use AI to monitor and I think they get it wrong. But every time I appeal it, it doesn't go through. So I'm just like, I don't know how unoriginal my content is is. But maybe I'm going to go to divine.

Jimmy (66:25)

So Jake Dorsey, the guy that basically made Twitter, he's the one investing in this and making this. He does. I mean, he does have a vision in general and has good intention to some degree.

Cali (66:40)

You're going to say this, you're going to say this and then you're going to be like, oh, this is way better. Actually, I. I loved Tick Tock.

Trisha Paytas (66:45)

Like, I don't think I could like, live. I don't think I could do my job without Tick Tock. All my jobs. I don't think I could do hot topics on TikTok because I was like, Broadway Tour. Like, everything is like Tick Tock based. Because as soon as I was on the Wicked premiere, like minutes after my interview, it was live. Like, it's just such a great quick way to get news information. What's happening right now. I don't think any other platform does that. Snapchat's like hard to find people. And the following is Everything's Private Snapchat. But everyone thought that about, about Instagram. Big broom or. Yes.

Cali (67:15)

When that first came out.

Trisha Paytas (67:17)

What they think about Instagram?

Cali (67:18)

Oh, everyone loves it. It's like the new thing.

Trisha Paytas (67:20)

And then we post a Love Instagram. And I will say this for Instagram, their reels are so popping again. Access posted stuff on both reels and Tick Tock. My reels of that, like, access is great. On Tick Tock, I got like half a million views. Reels got like 2 million views with Ethan Slater. Like, I'm telling it is. I like Instagram. I'm not like against Instagram. I love Instagram.

Cali (67:39)

But I do think that TikTok's easier, though. I feel like new platforms are. Can be a thing and they'll be popular.

Jimmy (67:45)

It's hard. Like, the new platforms, how many have come and go, you know, and there's one that stayed. Like YouTube stayed okay. Nothing changing. It's now long form TikTok is here, it stayed. There are the ones that kept trying to come up. If Divine does something right, it just means that TikTok will copy it. So if AI becomes an issue, Tick Tock will just copy the. Whatever they're using, you know, or buy Divine and in incorporate into it.

Cali (68:14)

I don't think so.

Jimmy (68:14)

If. If there's something. If something really makes Divine stand out from Tick Tock, Tick Tock will just embrace that into it. If AI is such a big deal, they'll.

Trisha Paytas (68:23)

They try to do a resurgence of MySpace like a couple years. I was like, MySpace is back in all your old photos. And it was just like the worst website layout ever. And it was just all music and nothing was great about it. And I was like, you know, whatever, use it again. And I just think.

Cali (68:35)

I think the like the nostalgia of that.

Trisha Paytas (68:37)

I just hate a Vine then and I hate it now. And I just don't like the idea of it. And I just. Again, we're like getting it literally is where like David Dobrik and Logan Paul found stardom. And I'm like, I don't know if we. Not to like knock them. They're successful in their own way, whatever. It's my own personal, like beef with them. But it's like, I think it just like spawned this like weird kind of content creator.

Cali (68:54)

Like you don't think that things can be rebranded.

Trisha Paytas (68:59)

I can be rebranded. So I guess anybody can be.

Cali (69:01)

That's so Vine.

Trisha Paytas (69:01)

No, it's true. Maybe.

Cali (69:04)

Maybe.

Trisha Paytas (69:04)

And I guess a lot of people like it for it. I just don't know anyone who's like, I miss Vine. I mean, I do know.

Cali (69:10)

You know why? Because you just weren't a Viner. You were.

Trisha Paytas (69:13)

I guess I know a lot of Viners who are just.

Cali (69:15)

And you don't sad. I know your thinking is back then, like Viners back then. And you're just like, cringe. Yeah. I think that you just have a bad taste in your mouth.

Trisha Paytas (69:24)

The Viners always thought, you're right. I am very.

Cali (69:27)

I think that's what's happening.

Trisha Paytas (69:28)

Bias or I have a bias. Because the Viners I knew, really they created the Internet. I think they thought they created.

Cali (69:35)

I think that's like. And you were like left in the side. No one wanted to play with you.

Trisha Paytas (69:40)

The Zane and Heath of it all, we. We made Saddle Ranch famous. Excuse me. Why?

Cali (69:45)

We have been going there forever.

Trisha Paytas (69:47)

Even before us, like Rock of Love, like every dating show, like, it was so popular in 2000. I'm like, okay, Viners take a seat. Like, this is not like that to me. But they. But Viners thought that. I think David Dobrik thinks he's first generation creator. You know what I mean? Like, he started the Internet. Or like, that to me is like, no, you didn't.

Cali (70:05)

You know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (70:05)

Like, no, you didn't. Like YouTube, Nyan Cat, like, all those, you know, like, those started the Internet. I don't know. Anyways, that's my own personal thing, so you might be right. Maybe. I know, especially when one in particular.

Cali (70:15)

That I'm just like, oh, this is why she's.

Trisha Paytas (70:18)

I have like five. Who are you thinking, Jimmy, cut this. Like, there's so many. Cut all those names. But I just. But we just listed, like, five. And, like, it's so funny. But yes, that one is. But yeah. And they think they're like, we're comedians. We're not content creators. We were comedians. I was like, no, you weren't. You made weird all of those.

Cali (70:39)

Shun you. And that's why you don't like the code.

Trisha Paytas (70:43)

No, I will say I've shunned them.

Cali (70:45)

Like, I.

Trisha Paytas (70:45)

And then.

Cali (70:45)

Well, now you have.

Trisha Paytas (70:46)

But then when I met them, I was a God. They really think they're like, God's gift. And I just do not like that because I'm like, just at least be humble. Jenna Marbles. Super humble. Like, be humble. She is. She started the Internet.

Cali (70:56)

Jenna Marbles. Really quick.

Trisha Paytas (70:57)

Yeah. Oh, yeah. We talked about Mr. Marbles last episode. No, it's. That's. Yeah, you should have been here for it because we're talking about dogs and how. Yeah, it's like, that's literally her namesake is Mr. Marbles and how much she loved the dogs and how much people love the dogs. Like, parasocial relationships. Including me. Like, I've never connected to dogs too much in my life. I do love Mucky and Miko, of course, but I loved Jenna's dog. I met Kermit. I don't know if I ever met Mr. Marbles, but, like. But the parasocial relationship I have with them is, like, so real. And I think a lot of people do it. And watching Julian talk about it and get choked up was, like, really sad. Because I think about you and I.

Cali (71:30)

Think about, like, I think about it. I. Sometimes I look at Monkey and I just start crying because I'm just like, oh, God.

Trisha Paytas (71:36)

Because we talked about it last episode. Not to, like, re. Go on it again, but it's like, dogs are just the purest form of, like, love there's like no bitterness. They don't get jaded by the world. They don't get fat shamed. You know what I mean? Well, I guess some dogs do, but they don't know it. Maybe they know it.

Cali (71:49)

We don't have shame in my house.

Trisha Paytas (71:50)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying is like there's nothing that jades them over time. They just want to be there to love you. They're just there to like greet you at home and like be loyal and they're just like so wonderful and like loving and I see it with like, like Mucky and Miko and I'm just like, I'm with you with them and mom with them and stuff. And I'm just like, it's everything. And they're just pure. Like they don't deserve to die early. Like 15, 16. I think Mr. Marvels might be 18 years. Someone post said.

Jimmy (72:11)

I think, yeah, he was old. Like he was older than normal.

Trisha Paytas (72:14)

Yeah. So it's like that's so short.

Cali (72:16)

I know.

Trisha Paytas (72:17)

Like in, in our lifespan you could have three dogs and it's like that's so sad and so. And it's awful and yeah, that might.

Cali (72:24)

Be thinking about her.

Trisha Paytas (72:26)

Yeah, of course. I mean that's. And to prepare for. Yeah. The end of life for your dog is. And I don't know. I. I don't know. Yeah. Hopefully Maki and Miko live, we'll say 20 more years, 15 more years. I try to manifest big just like my parents. I'm like, you know, they could be like 40 more years.

Cali (72:43)

How about that?

Trisha Paytas (72:44)

No, don't say that.

Cali (72:45)

But I think, yeah, I think, yeah, that's sad. But anyways, give Vine Divine a chance.

Jimmy (72:52)

But the thing is usually.

Cali (72:54)

I'm just saying.

Jimmy (72:54)

Yeah, usually the younger generation are the one wants to adopt a new platform and make it popular. And since vine existed, I think like the. Those people are older now and the younger generation is not going to care about an old platform coming back. So I feel like there is something that's working against them in that sense.

Cali (73:13)

I get that too. I do get it.

Trisha Paytas (73:15)

But I. You guys have convinced me maybe, maybe you can rebrand. Maybe you can like change. Because I do think Tick Tock. Right. Was musically, musically was cringe and I'm like, no way in hell am I going to go on musically. And obviously the Tick Tock, even TikTok since I've joined in 2019 when I would do those like dances or you know, those like renegades, whatever we did, it's like such A different thing now. It's just like, not that. And it's such a big. It's just such a big part of my life that I was like, I've really, like, abandoned my, like, YouTube channel. I try to post there now because it's like, people, like, we still love this channel, but, like, my music videos on YouTube will get 23,000 views. But that same clip of, like, Close Every Door or Snowflake gets 5 million. Our Righteous Gemstones gets. Gets 7 million. Where it only gets 20,000 on YouTube. So, like, the reach is so great. Yes. Money is not there, like, at all. But I get that the reach is amazing. I think that's why I've had a resurgence. I think that's why my tours did well. Like, people would post clips and then you see it. Same thing with My Chemical Romance. I would see these clips. I'm like, I really want to go. At first, I never cared about concerts, but seeing, like, Backstreet Boys at the sphere, like, I'm just like, I want to go so bad. Like, it really gives you that, like, I don't know. It's the best promotion and marketing tool you can have.

Cali (74:15)

I. I agree with you. I think the discoverability on Tick Tock is really amazing. But I do think that that's not going to be the last and only social media app that's gonna be popular.

Trisha Paytas (74:27)

No, but I think it, like, more stuff will evolve. Yeah, I don't even think we could.

Cali (74:31)

Things have evolved. You got YouTube shorts, you got Instagram reels. What makes you think that someone can't just copy and paste what Tick Tock is doing and doing it better?

Trisha Paytas (74:39)

Yeah, no, I agree. I think, I think that is. And I love it. And I love embracing new things. I can't even imagine 15 years when, like, Malibu, like, to me it's like, well, Malibu be a tick tocker. Like, no, there's gonna be something so much better. And, like, we're gonna be like, in their living rooms or something. Like, you know what I mean? There's. You could taste the food. There's gonna be something, and I love it. I'll embrace it to the very end. I'm gonna be that old person on Tick Tock and. Or whatever is happening. I'll be. Unless Malibu's like, stop, you're embarrassing. Then. But even then, I'm an og. Yeah, but it. Yeah, I. I embrace it. I try. I try everything. That's like, new. I couldn't get on that lemonade thing that everyone was doing. I don't Even know that.

Cali (75:13)

Well, that was when.

Jimmy (75:14)

That's what I mean.

Trisha Paytas (75:15)

Yeah.

Jimmy (75:16)

There. If something goes away. But if you right now think about creators, they make content and then they have to. Okay, we have to post it onto snap. YouTube. Like you said, all the reels, you know, shorts, reels, Tick Tock. Now there'll be one more. You just. At some point, you just have to focus on the big platforms. So new platform has to offer something completely different and entertaining. TikTok was entertaining. When I joined Tick Tock at the first time, there was. People were not selling anything. There was hardly any commercials.

Cali (75:46)

Now it is just.

Jimmy (75:47)

Now every flip I do is a shop like somebody. So.

Trisha Paytas (75:51)

But can we. We love the shops you're always shopping on. Tick Tock shop.

Jimmy (75:54)

Yeah, but. But there's a difference between consuming content to shopping. Like I'm saying, there's. It works because we're doing it.

Cali (76:01)

Mom.

Trisha Paytas (76:01)

Tick Tock Shop Queen Moses. Tick Tock Shop king. Me too.

Jimmy (76:06)

Yeah, but that's not entertainment. So the balance, the balance is kind.

Trisha Paytas (76:09)

Of like it's working for them, for them now, for us. But you're getting all these cute little toys for the kids off there.

Jimmy (76:15)

Sometimes I think a lot. No.

Cali (76:18)

Why is she dragging you right now? No, I'm just saying.

Trisha Paytas (76:20)

You do love it. Like, I'm just saying.

Jimmy (76:21)

I don't know. I'm telling you, I don't love it. Like sometimes I'll see something.

Trisha Paytas (76:24)

You're always getting something.

Jimmy (76:26)

No, but there's a difference between me getting something that I like, like to. I'm not enjoying scrolling through commercials.

Trisha Paytas (76:33)

I don't know, but I feel like if you weren't enjoying it, you're just.

Jimmy (76:35)

Like, it's not a content. Like enjoying content. I don't enjoy scrolling through commercials. I usually sell me around. If I see the orange, that little orange box that it's a shop, I usually immediately flip through.

Trisha Paytas (76:45)

I just don't believe that because you do buy so many things. And when I order somebody like, oh, I saw that on TikTok job. I was gonna get that too.

Jimmy (76:50)

Right? Because it's so much. You see it so many times.

Cali (76:52)

So eventually sometimes it's like they're brainwashing you into buying it.

Trisha Paytas (76:56)

I guess. Yeah, but I don't mind it. I'm just kind of like, oh, I do. I would love that. Like, it gives me something. I don't know, I needed affordable. Like it's better than like Amazon or something. They're pretty affordable. This sounds pretty nice. I think, like the toys we get, those little Bunnies that they get off Tick Tock Shop or the fish tank I got off to. I feel like we're just always getting stuff off Tick Tock Shop, you know, And I think this stuff's good. I don't know.

Jimmy (77:17)

So I'm talking about. I'm talking about content, not commercial. I'm saying, like, the balance is off now because. Because if you go on Amazon, you're not expecting to see content you're going through and you're shopping and you're doing stuff. But if you go on TikTok right now, you see so much shopping, especially coming towards the holidays.

Trisha Paytas (77:31)

The best of both worlds, because you get to have content and you get shop Amazon. I don't know how to search Amazon. Like, there's too much stuff. I don't know what I want. Tick Tock tells me this is what you want. And I was like, this is what I want. How did you know that? Amazon. I don't even know where to start. I really don't. Like. I know, okay, if I want makeup wipes, okay. But like, I wouldn't know to just browse Amazon. TikTok curious. Exactly.

Jimmy (77:49)

Usually you see influencers doing stuff and you're like, oh, I want that. I want what they have.

Trisha Paytas (77:53)

That's why I love TikTok shop. Because I'm like, oh, I like that too. I love, you know, me. And I'm making videos for TikTok Shop. Like if I have black parade pajamas and the guys get this off Tick Tock Shop. Those little corset things, I love those. I love them.

Cali (78:04)

Here's the thing I do like about Tick Tock. I do like, they were the first, like, kind of social media aside from YouTube that you can monetize on it.

Trisha Paytas (78:14)

It right. Instagram was like, not where they tried. You were making money on there at one point. Like, this is great. Then they take it. Then they made it unobtainable. Then they went from like, oh, for a hundred thousand views, we'll pay you now you got to get 10 million views. You're like, but now.

Cali (78:27)

Because now Tick Tock has also changed the way they pay out. And they don't pay hardly anything anymore.

Trisha Paytas (78:32)

TikTok definitely does not pay anything. I get about the same from Instagram Reels and Tick Tock, which again is nothing, would not cover our mortgage. Like, basically, which is something, I suppose, but it doesn't cover all of it.

Cali (78:43)

So I wonder how divine will be also.

Trisha Paytas (78:46)

Yeah, I will say that's the great thing about YouTube is their. Their AdSense even though it's been up and down, pretty consistent. Like they're pretty good at the payouts per views. So that is the plus side of. Of YouTube. So yeah, it'd be great.

Cali (78:58)

I also think that it's really like the. The terms of service of using it too is like really confusing and it's not clear. And they say if you're. Your live gets restricted, then you don't get any of your earnings. They take it all, which is. It should be illegal somehow. But I just. I don't know. I don't know. I'm a TT hater, I guess. I still love it. I want to love it.

Trisha Paytas (79:23)

But it's not working for you. It's like a breakup because no one's not working for you anymore.

Cali (79:28)

I'll still scroll.

Jimmy (79:30)

But anyway, your main platform is Twitch. I mean, you just.

Cali (79:33)

Yeah, I wish Twitch would have more.

Trisha Paytas (79:35)

And I hate a Twitch because we try to. We were trying to monetize off there and I was like, I don't understand. They're like, oh, you know, need 50,000 members and all like all this.

Cali (79:42)

No, you don't.

Trisha Paytas (79:42)

Oh, you're not 50,000. But I remember there were so many guidelines to get monetized. Remember we tried for a minute.

Cali (79:46)

It's a little confusing.

Trisha Paytas (79:47)

And I was like, no, I look. And Jimmy loves Twitch. Everyone loves Twitch. Oscar's on twitch.

Cali (79:53)

She's on YouTube.

Trisha Paytas (79:53)

Yeah, but I. Yeah, Snapchat too.

Cali (79:57)

Like all of them.

Trisha Paytas (79:57)

I'm just like, no, like, I go. You go with what works for you. Tick Tock. I love you. Don't never ban me. It's where I've had the most followers. Like I've been on YouTube for literally 19 years and I have 5 million subscribers. Tick Tock is 11 million in what, like five years? You know what I mean? So I like the end. It's good to promote stuff like it is your business, your whatever.

Cali (80:15)

That's why I'm on there is to promote my stream. But yeah, they just don't like me. That makes me sad.

Trisha Paytas (80:22)

Well, it's probably not. Maybe it's you. I don't know. I was gonna say maybe it's not you, but maybe don't take it personal.

Cali (80:29)

I guess I don't.

Trisha Paytas (80:30)

Pres Hilton's been banned 25000 times off of TikTok.

Cali (80:33)

Oh yeah, both of them are the same.

Trisha Paytas (80:35)

Sorry, not to compare. No, no. Hate to be right, Seldom, but he was trying to come back so much, remember?

Jimmy (80:41)

I remember again.

Trisha Paytas (80:45)

Look, honestly, that was like me with Snapchat for a minute. When I found out some people were like, oh, they're making, like, David Dobrik. Someone said he was making, like, a million dollars a month or a day or whatever it was. And I was like, damn, get me on Snapchat. Everyone remember, everyone's coming on my podcast. I make that $10,000 down soundtrack. I'm like, soundtrack, get me on it. But I was the president of Snapchat. They just were like, absolutely not. Like, get the off of our platform. And I was like, all right, fine. They don't want me there. I don't go where I'm not wanted. And that's. That's totally fine.

Cali (81:09)

And now where are they?

Trisha Paytas (81:10)

You know, Snapchat, actually, we're on there. No, because Justin Bieber.

Cali (81:16)

No, they did something recently that they were, like, charging to keep your memories. And I think a lot of people.

Trisha Paytas (81:21)

Yeah, I hate that. It's like, no, thank you.

Jimmy (81:25)

That's when, you know, platform is dying.

Cali (81:26)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (81:27)

Oh, Scooter Braun was trying to buy of. Did you see this? Oh, he was trying to buy of. And I don't know what happened.

Cali (81:34)

I don't know he's got that much money.

Trisha Paytas (81:36)

I mean, he had what he had. Justin Bieber already wasn't with everybody.

Jimmy (81:39)

Think about every artist that he had. He made more money.

Trisha Paytas (81:41)

Taylor Swift. He, like, sold her back. The album, her rights.

Jimmy (81:45)

Catalog.

Trisha Paytas (81:45)

Catalog, yeah. He, like, bought. He, like, owned the title. And I sold it back. Taylor Swift. And I was like, scooter, like, people just do not like him. And I get it. I'm not trying to defend Scooter Braun, but he was trying by. Of. But the reason I bring that up is Lana Rose was in the news for wanting all her. All her adult content to be taken down of the Internet. And I think Riley Reid had spoken out in support of it, too. And it is, like, one of those things where I just, like, I will say off. I've only been on off. And I was like, they were wonderful at, like, keeping the taking stuff down. Like, even if other people are selling it. Like, you can just, like, withdraw consent, which was great. But, yeah, Lana Rhodes has a child. Riley reads as a child. And it's like, yeah, the after effects of all that when you have a child and, like, wanting it taken down. And some in. Some of these sites are not. Like, there was another. Yeah, there was another. I knew her way back when her name was Chrissy Moran. She was an adult star. Later on, like, was, like, found like Jesus and became, like, super and one, like, all her stuff down and like the people who are running her website just kept it running and they were making like 30k, 40k a month and she wasn't getting like any of that money and it was. It's so crazy. And then even when she was like I don't even want the money. Like just stop, take. Just take it down. And like they want it. Which is like.

Cali (82:55)

It's hard because crazy. You don't own the rights to it. What do you do?

Trisha Paytas (83:00)

It sucks. It's. I just feel like everyone should be able to like take back.

Cali (83:04)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (83:05)

Especially when it comes like that kind of stuff. Like take back consent. You know what I mean?

Cali (83:08)

I just like, well, dang. If Scooter Ron does it sounds like he'll be not great taking stuff down if he had to.

Trisha Paytas (83:17)

Just.

Jimmy (83:18)

I thought he'll try to sell you back your catalog.

Cali (83:21)

That's what I'm saying.

Trisha Paytas (83:22)

Oh yeah. Oh God.

Cali (83:24)

Yikes. Don't tell that guy.

Trisha Paytas (83:28)

Yeah, no, that actually, that's actually a really good point. That. Yeah, I guess it's still a thing. I guess people still are on there. I don't know. I don't know about it all, but not a good idea. Yeah. And I, I'm in support of. They need to change those laws that like you should be able to.

Cali (83:44)

I think so too.

Trisha Paytas (83:45)

Take back consent. Also in sad news for females, Doordash girl has been arrested.

Cali (83:51)

I saw briefly what was going on. What happened with that?

Trisha Paytas (83:55)

Do you not know any of the story?

Cali (83:57)

I don't, but I just saw. I saw she was arrested, but I don't know why because.

Jimmy (84:01)

So at the beginning the story, it also has to do with where it happened. That specific state. The laws in that specific state are very different.

Cali (84:10)

What state?

Jimmy (84:12)

We have to find out. Okay, so I saw a tick tock of a lawyer talking about the laws in that specific state where what he did is not considered a crime. Him being at his home naked was not a crime. Even if he was out on the street. Like he, like there was no. They could not prove that he did any malicious act towards her.

Trisha Paytas (84:35)

Oh, it's.

Jimmy (84:35)

And then, and then her filming him at his home was actually sexual assault. Like it was actually an act that could lead her to be an offender.

Cali (84:48)

That's.

Jimmy (84:49)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (84:49)

She's facing felony charges.

Jimmy (84:51)

She recorded. So basically it's recording him at his home, which is invasion and then posting it online, which is also.

Trisha Paytas (84:59)

That's where she. Posting online.

Jimmy (85:01)

Posting online. Well, both of them. Because if she didn't post online, they wouldn't Know that she did it to begin with. But.

Cali (85:07)

But here's the thing. You have to take a picture even if you're dropping it off.

Trisha Paytas (85:10)

Right. So if you're just like.

Cali (85:11)

So.

Trisha Paytas (85:12)

Yeah.

Cali (85:12)

If you just happen to open the door at the wrong time, then what? So, yeah, I think the posting is the problem.

Trisha Paytas (85:19)

That's what people say on TikTok. Like, if something's happening. Right. Even with us, like in real time, like, your first instinct is to record because you're like, I need proof. Yeah. And so I think, like, posting it especially. It was unblurred the first time. But it's here in New York. It happened. It's here in New York. She's facing felony charges. Oh, gosh, I didn't know all this. Yeah. She.

Jimmy (85:38)

Because the laws are very different in each state.

Cali (85:41)

I just don't know how that works. It's not. You're not technically ins. I'm. Technically, you are inside your house. But when you open the door, you can just be naked standing there.

Trisha Paytas (85:50)

Yeah, I guess so. I'm totally on.

Cali (85:53)

I feel like a prosecutor could get her out of this.

Trisha Paytas (85:56)

I hope so. Yeah.

Cali (85:58)

Because that's a little ridiculous.

Trisha Paytas (85:59)

For sure.

Cali (86:00)

I guess if you're in New York, go ahead and be naked in front of your door.

Trisha Paytas (86:03)

Because we. We did. We've talked about this. Like, people do get off on that. Like that. You know what I mean?

Cali (86:06)

Yeah.

Jimmy (86:07)

At the beginning, the public opinion was like, well, he's obviously the criminal. Here is the problem, blah, blah. And then when, you know, you look at each state by law, suddenly they're like, well, she actually broke the law in this.

Trisha Paytas (86:19)

Because I get that too. Like, if you're like, in your house. I mean, like. Like literally. Okay. Yeah. Like, in this situation, like, if this ever happens to somebody is like, yeah, I would film to document. Because, like, what the hell? But don't post it. Like, yeah, you should just like. And it does suck. Like, I know you're. My natural instinct too. Would be especially young. She's like 24, something like that. Especially me at 20. I post everything to the Internet. You know what I mean? So I get that. And she probably did feel some type of way. I would too.

Jimmy (86:44)

Yeah. There's a few law. Because the other one is also doxing him. That's another law she broke. So. So there's. There's a lot to it. But also, if you're. What was the goal? Right. Like, if this happened, you don't need to get your justice in the public opinion. You need to get the justice from the corporate that hires you. They're the people that are going to be dealing with it.

Cali (87:05)

Yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:06)

People were against her at the beginning. People were like, like, no, you're in the wrong. Like, people were like, why are you. But. But then, like, more came out and it was like, okay, yeah, that person was equally.

Cali (87:14)

She didn't take the right steps to doing it.

Trisha Paytas (87:18)

I get it. And I get. I get it at the beginning, even from the beginning, to post it. Like, you are in shock. And it is. We are in the day of age where people are like, let's take it to the Internet. Because it just seems like there's a lot of things. Right. Police don't always help. It's like stalking too. It's like police don't do a lot. You know, I mean, they. They do, but in a lot of cases like this, they don't take things seriously. They don't do a lot. So you just feel like. Like the Internet, if the Internet makes noise, you'll get stuff done, which is. We found that out with airlines. True. Do you know what I mean? Like, if you're traveling, airlines don't give a. Until you say something and then you post a video and like, okay, now we'll issue the apology. But so I get it. Like, that is because, yeah, going to authorities or whatever, sometimes they just don't take you seriously until you report it. Yeah. She could have. She could have just said the story without having to go to doordash first in the situation.

Jimmy (88:02)

And nothing is actually happening. Like, you never took an action against her. That's part of also why she has a problem with it. But let's say if a guy's naked walking towards you, go live. You know, defend yourself by showing what's happening at the moment if you need somebody to come and help you there.

Trisha Paytas (88:20)

But, oh, you're saying just go live.

Jimmy (88:22)

That's like one step further if you are in danger. Yeah. Like, there's so many streamers on the street. They're live. Somebody is harassing them. Girls has been attacked while they're on live. Attacked, and people help them. So all I'm saying is, like, this situation was so odd because there was nothing happening. There was no action. He's laying there sleeping, not sleeping, naked. There's no action. Nobody's threatening her and nobody's doing an action towards her. So that's why I was, you know, the reaction of going immediately and posting it online was just a little bit.

Trisha Paytas (88:55)

I don't know. It is like an assault. So I Guess I would.

Jimmy (88:57)

But I'm saying, like, it's a shock. Shock. Don't think you shouldn't post. Don't think you shouldn't go live if you're in danger. If you're in danger, do something that way.

Trisha Paytas (89:04)

She probably felt that way in a moment then.

Cali (89:06)

If you felt that way, call 91 1.

Trisha Paytas (89:09)

But that's what people say. But you don't always. And I've been in situations where I show call nine one. And you really, you Sometimes if you are in a state of shock, I think you don't know.

Cali (89:17)

Let me film it and post it on TikTok.

Trisha Paytas (89:19)

Yeah, well, I think that's like the.

Jimmy (89:20)

Age that people are at in New York. If she called 911, they would tell her, go home.

Trisha Paytas (89:24)

Home.

Jimmy (89:24)

Or they would tell her that thing. There's no. He's not breaking any laws right now.

Trisha Paytas (89:27)

And they like put you on hold. Or like, I call 9 1. So during quarantine, specifically, I call 91 for the craziest situations. They'd come 45 minutes later. They'd put you on hold.

Jimmy (89:36)

I.

Trisha Paytas (89:37)

And then they would tell me. And then they would tell me, like someone. They would say, like, you know, if there's like an intruder in the house, they'll come right away. So then I'd be like, is the person in the house. Yes, I see them right now. There's a knife here. Like, I'm still. Took like 45 minutes when I was living in the hills. Do not live in the hills. It still took 45 minutes. And I'm like, that's. I'm like, I see him. He's coming. He has a knife. Like, nothing. And I was like.

Jimmy (89:57)

And they booked him and released him same day. And he came back again, booked and.

Trisha Paytas (90:00)

Released the same day. And that's when I got the security. Because I was like, what do you mean, like. And they're like, well, we can't really hold them because the jails are, whatever, overcrowded. I was just like, it's like, yeah. And that person actually did have a weapon. That was someone different. That person actually did.

Cali (90:12)

I remember this time.

Trisha Paytas (90:13)

Yes. And I remember. And they like saw it. They found it, everything. And they're like, these out. I was like, what that same night. Oh, my God. So anyways, and we like, they can. They can do a lot. There's. There's cops that do a lot and stuff like that. But. And I don't say, yeah, I'm. I am with you. Like, not to say that's like the Right thing to do. But sometimes you're in shock. Sometimes you don't get the help. Sometimes whatever. And, well, people just do it, you.

Cali (90:36)

Know, if you're not going to get the help if you don't try first.

Trisha Paytas (90:39)

Yeah.

Cali (90:39)

Like when I'm trying to return something, I would go to the company first. I want to post a TikTok on it.

Trisha Paytas (90:44)

Oh, I would. Maybe. I think I have. I think I don't return. That's. There's two different people in this world.

Cali (90:49)

Well, maybe don't be that person, you know, maybe try and have the company.

Trisha Paytas (90:53)

Right. Like the hair by Chrissy, I guess. Did she. She said she was unhappy with the hair.

Cali (90:58)

She probably did. And then that's why.

Trisha Paytas (90:59)

That's what it was. Kardashian news. Brittany was hanging out.

Cali (91:04)

I saw that was it.

Trisha Paytas (91:05)

She was giving. It was definitely Britney. There was no ad.

Cali (91:08)

It was cute.

Trisha Paytas (91:09)

I like that they were all hanging out together because Britney's in that area. We're in that area too.

Cali (91:12)

Just, you know, saying, maybe one day you'll get invited to a slumber party.

Trisha Paytas (91:16)

Oh, my God. With actually cried. What? She was Chloe and Kim too. Just, like, just the best. Just the trifecta. We love all them, but it was beautiful to see. She looked happy.

Cali (91:25)

I'm glad that she's, like, out and hanging around other people, especially Kardashians.

Trisha Paytas (91:29)

I mean, say what you will about them, they seem like they know what's up. They seem like they have a grasp on the world. They've gotten through so many things, including Kanye, and it's just like, damn. I think, like, if there's one person that feels like, like you have a safe space and comfort and security, it's with the card.

Cali (91:42)

I feel like Chris would be like, mama bear, you know, she could give.

Trisha Paytas (91:46)

Us such a good revival.

Cali (91:47)

She became. Oh, my manager. Yes, I'm for that.

Trisha Paytas (91:51)

I wanted to ask John. I'm too, because he's doing the Britney movie and he's supposed to be doing Justin Bay's title Dream coat, which was that Britney attached to it as the narrator. I wanted to ask him so bad about the Britney Spears at all because he said they started casting, like, unknowns for Britney. Although then I heard Margot Robbie was gonna play Britney Spears. This was like, like a legitimate news source that she was supposed to be playing Brittany. And everyone's like, experience a membership that backs what you're building with American Express Business Platinum. Get 2 times Membership Rewards points per dollar on eligible purchases in key business categories, as well as on each eligible purchase of $5,000 or more on up to $2 million in eligible purchases per calendar year. American Express Business Plan Platinum there's nothing like it. Terms apply. Learn more@americanexpress.com Business Platinum Eczema is unpredictable, but you can flare less with ebglis, a once monthly treatment for moderate to severe eczema after an initial four month or longer dosing phase. About four in ten people taking Eblis achieved itch relief and clear or almost clear skin at 16 weeks, and most of those people maintain skin skin that's still more clear at one year with monthly dosing.

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Trisha Paytas (93:32)

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Cali (93:43)

I can definitely see Addison Ray. She does get Britney vibes.

Trisha Paytas (93:48)

She'd be really good. But then people are saying unknown. But then I literally saw Margot Robbie and I was like, that's. That's so random.

Cali (93:53)

I don't think Margo, she's Barbie, you know, she's like a staple as Barbie and she's.

Trisha Paytas (93:58)

She's like at the Andrew Garfield who. They can play everybody. Because she was like, Tanya Harding.

Cali (94:01)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (94:01)

She's been like so many, like people, like actual people that I'm like, in Andrew Garfield, too. He's like, I think he's playing Richard Branson now. Like, he's played everybody.

Jimmy (94:09)

And I'm like, and are they gonna have one person or they're gonna go through her life from being a kid to a teenager To a.

Trisha Paytas (94:14)

Well, maybe. Probably kid. But what they usually do is like, a kid, and then they get someone to play, like, the older version. Just like there's a Michael Jackson movie coming out and Jafar Jackson, who's Michael Jackson's nephew, is playing, which is kind of everything. I follow Michael Jackson and procedure on TikTok called Fabio Jackson. Have you heard of him? He looks just like Michael Jackson. He said he's only gotten one nose job. I don't know about that, but he looks just like him. But he was watching the trailer and giving a reaction. He kind of went viral for it because he was critiquing it as if he was the real Michael Jackson. He's like, I don't know. Okay, maybe that voice got like, he was. And everyone's like, you're not Michael Jackson. But he really does. Even when he's. He lives in Vegas and when he goes on the Vegas strip, he'll see, like, someone doing Michael Jackson dance moves, and he'll be like. Like, watching him, like, as if he's Michael Jackson. Okay, I approve this. You know what I mean? I was like, you're not Michael. But I guess he, like, auditioned for it, whatever. But he. He did approve of the MJ trailer, so. But I guess my point is, is like, yes, with the Britney Spears revival, with the Kardashians, I think I could see it happening for her if she wants it. Maybe she's happy just being low key. I know she's going through the Instagram. We never talked about when her Instagram got deleted, and she was talking about how she was. Her. Her brain was getting mushed up by the conservatorship and stuff. What was the word she used?

Jimmy (95:20)

I think she said brain damage.

Trisha Paytas (95:21)

Brain damage from it. Like. But I think we all would love a comeback if she wants one. Also, Kardashian news. Courtney and Travis. It was a couple weeks ago, but we never talked about it. I saw it was the people are speculating the 5K. Yeah. She did not want to run.

Cali (95:42)

Oh, my God. That was a hard 1.5k.

Trisha Paytas (95:44)

It was a hard watch. Okay? Half the. Half the Internet, half the people will say, you know, he's just trying to motivate her. He's trying to get her out there.

Cali (95:51)

Why are you holding my hand? I need both to run. First of all, she's dragging her. She's like 4 foot 11 and he's like 6 foot and dragging her.

Trisha Paytas (96:02)

She's like, I don't want to do this. He's like, you're doing this. But it's like, I guess some people need that. Some people need someone to be like, no, you're doing this. And they like, want that. Like, why? People go to trainers who yell at them. Like, some people like that. Some people like, no, I can't have someone yelling at me. Like, I need someone to, like, cuddle me.

Jimmy (96:15)

This is a public event. It's not even like, you know us. Like, okay, let's go for that walk. We're gonna do it. You're gonna feel better.

Cali (96:22)

Go so fast too. You can finish it at any time. It doesn't happen.

Trisha Paytas (96:26)

She's like, no, she was doing like.

Cali (96:27)

Nine minute miles, which is pretty good.

Trisha Paytas (96:30)

Really?

Cali (96:30)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (96:31)

Well, maybe it worked. Maybe that motivation worked. If you're doing a nine minute mile, geez, that would take me. It would take me 30 minutes when we do our walks that take me so long to do a mile.

Jimmy (96:39)

But it's his thing. And anyway, you know he's gonna do it. He's gonna run faster than she does. You know, he's gonna end that. He's gonna finish it by himself. And. And he's been doing it for years.

Trisha Paytas (96:49)

Yeah, it's like his thing.

Jimmy (96:50)

So what do you want from her? Like, leave her alone.

Trisha Paytas (96:53)

I need for her to be like, can I please have some water? I need water to finish this. Oh, my.

Cali (96:57)

That's what I'm.

Trisha Paytas (96:57)

Girl, take the water. Just take it. Why do you have to ask? And also, why would you want, like, right, like what? Like, why would you want someone to do something they don't want to do? Right? Like if you love. Like you loved walking, Right? If I'm just like, I do not want to walk. You go do that walk on your own or something like that. Like you want to.

Cali (97:10)

But she is like that in that relationship.

Trisha Paytas (97:13)

What?

Cali (97:13)

I think she wants to be agreeable and do everything that he wants to do.

Trisha Paytas (97:16)

That's what. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't try to judge because, like, some people, like, that's the relationship. I want to be told what to do. I want to. You make decisions for me. You push me. Maybe like some people, like, like that relationship. And I feel like it's just so.

Cali (97:28)

Different, this relationship to, like, her and Scott.

Trisha Paytas (97:31)

Well, yeah. I mean, from what we see, I guess you can't really tell, but like, he seems. They seem like they're in love with each other. They seem, like, really affectionate. He seems like he really cares for her.

Cali (97:40)

I think it's. The difference is jarring though, because she was always telling Scott what to do, and now she's just, like, happy.

Jimmy (97:46)

Go.

Cali (97:47)

I'm just gonna do anything he tells me to do. I'm just. I'm also gonna change my whole look. I just. Like, she's so different.

Trisha Paytas (97:53)

Yeah. I don't know. What. I don't know. I think it's way for the better. Like, I. I don't know. Like, it's so. It's easy to be like, he's isolating her. Everyone's like, you only spend time with Travis. Like, it's easy.

Cali (98:01)

No, I think it's her choice to isolate herself.

Trisha Paytas (98:03)

I think so too. I think she's probably like, I need an identity away from this family. Like, I want to go do this now. This is my thing.

Cali (98:08)

Well, that's the thing. I think people are saying she's taking on Travis's identity.

Trisha Paytas (98:12)

Well, probably she wants to. I mean, I Like, I. Yeah, she's what, 45? 40? It's like, she probably, like, can make this decision on her own. She's like, you guys are on. Like, she always. She's always been different than the rest of them. She doesn't care about working. She always said that. She goes, my kids are always first. I couldn't care less about a photo shoot. I don't think that's a bad thing. Kim's the opposite, where she's just like, I'm gonna work 24 7. And I. I see that side, too. Like, you, if you love working. Like, she has all the money in the world, but she's still, like, doing TV shows. Like. Like, sometimes you just.

Jimmy (98:38)

You.

Trisha Paytas (98:38)

Like, I love to do it. Like, I love doing Broadway. Like, I'm not, like, getting paid a ton of money for it. Cost me money to be here, but it's like, I love to do it. So it's like, it kind of just where your priorities are, I suppose. But I don't know. I mean, I. She seems.

Cali (98:50)

She didn't look like I was having a great time during that run, let me tell you.

Trisha Paytas (98:55)

Maybe. Maybe, right? Yeah. No, for sure. Me, I would be, like, absolutely hand.

Cali (99:00)

Holding the whole time.

Trisha Paytas (99:02)

It's kind of cute.

Cali (99:03)

No, it's not.

Jimmy (99:04)

It's. I love it when it's dragging you.

Cali (99:08)

I don't want to recreate it when I'm running. If Moses and I are fighting for.

Trisha Paytas (99:11)

My life, if we're an amazing race, Moses definitely would be dragging me by the hand.

Cali (99:15)

There's money involved. This is like a.

Trisha Paytas (99:18)

For a charity event you don't have.

Cali (99:19)

To do, you know, and it's his charity.

Trisha Paytas (99:22)

It's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Because the one episode a couple seasons ago, they did it, and she was walking, he was running, and I think he even lapped her.

Jimmy (99:31)

They started together.

Trisha Paytas (99:32)

Yeah. So it's like, why didn't they just do that? Like, just like.

Jimmy (99:35)

And then I don't remember if she hopped into a car at some point.

Trisha Paytas (99:38)

Oh, yeah. I think so too.

Cali (99:41)

Or maybe it's all stage. We don't know.

Trisha Paytas (99:44)

Yeah, because, like, she's an executive producer. She could easily be like, cut this. It doesn't look good, but it could be, like, something for people to talk about. The rage made up at all that everyone's doing these days. It's. Yeah, I'm out of my rage bay era. But I mean, I guess I get it.

Cali (99:55)

Rage bait.

Trisha Paytas (99:56)

We're talking. I do too. I think anxiety.

Cali (99:59)

It does. Why are you trying to get views this way? I think it's so, so cheap.

Trisha Paytas (100:05)

Like, it doesn't.

Jimmy (100:06)

Because they don't have something when you don't have something else.

Trisha Paytas (100:08)

Like, literally not entertained for 10 years. Okay. No, but I was a rage waiter for that reason. Because it's like, yeah, if you have nothing else, it's like, that's what you have to do. It gets people talking. It's like, companies, too. Like, major corporations are rage baiting people. You know what I mean?

Cali (100:20)

And I just don't get it. I would have anxiety if I was a rage baiter. You know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (100:25)

Me too. Especially about your relationship. Like, it's like, oh, like, I don't know. I wouldn't want people being like, well, like, if I saw. If I saw that in the edit, I'd be like, we have to cut that. That looks. Looks. Unless they think it looks cute. Maybe they think, like, look how cute we are.

Cali (100:35)

They couldn't possibly have thought that looked cute.

Trisha Paytas (100:38)

She.

Cali (100:38)

He looked like he was dragging the little kid behind.

Trisha Paytas (100:40)

What if there was, like, an order, right? What if, like, Kim has the final. Final saying? She's like, keep that in so they see it. You know what I mean?

Cali (100:45)

I think Chris has the final, right?

Trisha Paytas (100:47)

Maybe, yeah. Chris, probably. I don't know. I don't. I didn't.

Jimmy (100:51)

I think too much of it. They've been doing it for so many years. I think they trust there's somebody in there that they trust. They're like, if you think it should be in, keep it in.

Trisha Paytas (100:58)

Which is.

Cali (100:59)

They have.

Trisha Paytas (101:00)

They have Jimmy, but sometimes it goes through the cracks. With Jimmy, me with Moses. I had Moses review a podcast Years ago. And I was like, make sure nothing bad's in it. And then I came out. Everyone's like, moses hates you because why didn't he tell you to cut this out? And it's like, sometimes you just don't think about it. Like, sometimes.

Jimmy (101:12)

No, but it wasn't bad. You were in the right. It's just some people interpreted something.

Trisha Paytas (101:16)

Yeah, exactly. But I'm like, even any interpretation, Whatever. Things could slip through the cracks. And that's how. I don't know. To me, it wasn't like, I don't know. I wasn't like, maybe I definitely am the hot take on this one, where I'm like, I don't know. Maybe it's a relationship you definitely have. I've seen people like, well, even with you and me, like, I know. People, like, will be like, she's so mean. I'm like, that's does not. That is not. That's our banter. That's whatever. Oh, she hates Moses or whatever. And it's just like, okay. I mean, that's why I'm like, I get it. But at the same time, I'm like, I don't know. People just see what they want to see sometimes. But I saw one where it's like, why does all of Travis's women end up in pajamas? So they show, like, Shannon, bed now. Courtney's always in her pajamas. I'm like, well, maybe he just makes them feel safe and relaxed. Like, you just get to be a sleepy little baby. You know what I mean? And I. I like that, too.

Cali (101:59)

I just don't like her comment to Chloe. It was like a back. Backhanded.

Trisha Paytas (102:05)

What'd you say?

Cali (102:06)

I just can't do, like, the dresses and the heels anymore.

Trisha Paytas (102:10)

Yeah. That is crazy.

Cali (102:12)

While Chloe is dressed to the nines, and it's like. And she knew. She picked up on it. She's like, okay, well, that's great for you, but I can do this.

Trisha Paytas (102:21)

And, yeah, that gives pick me energy for sure. It's like, I just want to be comfortable with my kids and chase them. I'm like, well, she can do that. That's what she.

Cali (102:26)

She's giving. She's giving. Pick me. This whole relationship is giving pick me. And that's what I. Courtney used to be my favorite, and I just don't.

Trisha Paytas (102:33)

Like her in this. I like her because I like that she's happy. It's like, you and me, too. I'm like, I don't care what people say. I'm happier, and I just want people to Know that I'm happier than ever. No matter what they say or anything like that. Even me talking over Moses, like, I'm happier than ever. And I want people to know that. You don't tell them, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, that's so Chloe of you. Cali is the Chloe. Kelly is our Chloe.

Jimmy (102:53)

Just think about her. She was divorced, raising the kids, being part of the whole Kardashian machine. Now she's with a man that she loves, so that's what she wants to do. Then he has. He's part of a band. He has a style. It's a very strong style. And she's like, I want to match. It's fun. It's cute. You know, I'm going to his concert. I'm not going to go look like, you know, I'm going to art gallery opening. I'm going to go wear the sweatshirts, wear the thing, whatever. Like, I'm going to match him. It's cute. Like, that's how I see it. Like, I see her.

Trisha Paytas (103:23)

I took Moses identity. I take everyone's identity. You did that? I did. There was lots of things.

Cali (103:28)

I'm like, let's buy one tank top and one shirt and one pair of pants.

Jimmy (103:32)

No, no, no. Look, when we met, she's. She loved water. She loved my water museum.

Trisha Paytas (103:39)

I was like, this is amazing. Tell me more about philosophy.

Jimmy (103:42)

She loves drinking tea in the morning.

Trisha Paytas (103:43)

Oh, tea? Sugar, milk, tea?

Jimmy (103:46)

No, no. That's what I'm saying. That's what she's saying.

Trisha Paytas (103:48)

That's what I'm saying. It's like, I love tea. I love it. But like, she.

Cali (103:51)

You reverted back to being yourself because you can be yourself.

Jimmy (103:54)

Because she feels comfortable.

Cali (103:56)

Yeah. And she doesn't feel comfortable right now.

Jimmy (103:58)

Oh, we don't know.

Trisha Paytas (104:00)

And I. And I feel like I still. There's certain things that you.

Jimmy (104:02)

She's in pajamas. She's comfortable.

Trisha Paytas (104:04)

But there's certain, like, things, like, even, like, Jewish traditions. I was. Even though Moses, like, kind of, like, didn't care as much. I'm like, we're doing this. We're celebrating.

Jimmy (104:12)

Because you thought. Because you thought, like, you didn't know yet that. I'm not even identifying that way, but.

Trisha Paytas (104:17)

I was like, Hanukkah every night. And he's just like.

Jimmy (104:20)

And I was like, I never did that by myself.

Trisha Paytas (104:23)

Remember the first Passover? Like, we weren't even, like, dating, but we were talking, and I was, like, on the phone with him because, like, I'm like, how do I make this. How do I do this? I want to make matzo ball. And he's like, well, you're not really supposed to make this. Like, what? And people thought I was, like, mocking or whatever, but I, like, really wanted to be a part of something, and so I just took his identity as I did with, like, so many other people's things. I was like, I want to feel a part of something, you know? And maybe that's what she thought. Like, I want to be a part of something that's not Kardashians. Okay.

Cali (104:48)

I would like her to be her own thing, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (104:51)

Well, she doesn't want that. That's the thing. I think people just should let be. But again, they put it out for tv. They know what they're doing. I think they like the criticism. I think they like the feedback.

Cali (104:59)

If you put it out there, you're open to speculation.

Trisha Paytas (105:02)

People talking about it like, that is the whole point of social media.

Jimmy (105:06)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (105:06)

Well, I mean, I really love talking. Well, we can. It's more. It's not about the person, more so about the situation. The Nick Vile middle seat situation. I feel like I come for Nick Vile a lot for, like, sometimes a reason, sometimes not. He seems to be thriving. I think I texted you. Got, like, a $30 million deal. Good for him. Which is crazy because it's like, what? Yeah, he's like, I don't know. I just saw it somewhere. And I was like, that's actually. I think he talked about it. Someone talked about it.

Cali (105:28)

Crazy to me.

Trisha Paytas (105:29)

Crazy. And like, I went to this thing because you always hear about Nick Vile getting all these big interviews, the Gypsy Rose, all this. And then you go and it's like, not okay, not to you.

Cali (105:36)

Big interviews and saying Gypsy Rose while sending me a little bit.

Jimmy (105:39)

Depends on what time. If she just got out of jail.

Trisha Paytas (105:41)

Yeah, yeah. He always gets, like, relevant people with, like, their situation. You're like, damn, okay, that's a good interview. And then you go to his page and it's like, like, not to, like, view shame, but it's like, the views are, like, not a lot.

Jimmy (105:50)

And I'm like, but maybe on Spotify.

Trisha Paytas (105:51)

Yeah, maybe he's getting a lot of downloads and people seem to really like him. Whatever. Like, and good for people. I know they've gone through a lot of people. Yeah, good for people. Honestly, like, I'm not trying to. Whatever. And I know people can change, rebrand, all of this stuff. Like, I'm. Whatever. And I know they've gone through, like, personal, like, losses. This Year. And it's like, really, you know, all that's very sad and stuff like that. But this one was, like, such a crazy story. I know after all that, I'm like, okay with this one. It's more about just. I don't know. I don't know why it's like. Because it was, like, weeks ago, and it still is, like, something that I think about, like, constantly. And it's not. It's truly not me hating because I. You guys know I'm in my happy era. I'm. I'm thinking about just doing a podcast where I just interview happy, go lucky people all the time, because it's, like, talking about Hot Topics. It's like, whatever. But this one was kind of crazy to me because I do travel is. Him and his wife were flying back with their child, and they both got had, like, middle seats. Like, she was in the middle seat, and he was, like, a couple rows back in the middle seat. And right. And then they ask the guy that sits next to her in the aisle, like, to switch. And she was. And I gave him a minute. I'm like, just think about it, like, you know, if you could just switch with my husband back there. We have a kid. And then the guy was just like, nice. And she even said that she was nice, and he was just like, you know, I just had, like, a really long travel day. Like, I'm gonna keep my lc. They both were so, like, I guess, look, when you podcast, sometimes you miss. You have a misstep or whatever. But they both were, like, couldn't believe it. They're like, he had a chance to be a hero, and he didn't. And I was like, did you see the clip? The clip was crazy. And this is why I'm like, is it rage bait or is this real? And maybe it's rage bait because it got me. It got me raging. It's getting me raged backstage at Beetlejuice. I'm like, what do you mean? And I. But the way they reacted was just like, I. He could have been a hero. He could have done this. And then she was like, well, you know. And then I was holding the baby the whole time, so she was being a little loud. And you know what? I made sure he, like, heard that the baby was being loud, because that's what he deserved.

Cali (107:33)

Like, I was just like, that's crazy.

Trisha Paytas (107:35)

What do you mean? Like, she goes, sorry, that's what you get when you sit next to a woman with a baby. And I just like. And everyone and the people in the comments. I always check the comments, make sure I'm not totally off. Because I was, like, so mad, and I was like, let me check the comments in the comments. Pass the vibe. Check on this. Because they were like, first of all, you both are rich. Clearly. We saw $30 million. Allegedly. I saw it somewhere. So I'm assuming it's real. Probably real. Whatever. Either way, they have money because they have a popular podcast. Like, why don't you book the seats next to each other? Like, why? Like, why?

Cali (108:01)

You have so many opportunities.

Trisha Paytas (108:04)

Yeah.

Cali (108:05)

To pick your seat.

Trisha Paytas (108:06)

So. Oh, that's your flight. So many opportunities. So many flights.

Cali (108:10)

Actually book the flight and then when you check in for the flight, you can even change it while you're at.

Jimmy (108:16)

The airport at the boarding. Yeah, you can be there.

Cali (108:19)

So many opportunities. Why would you pick two middle seats? I'm a single woman, and I don't want to sit in the middle.

Trisha Paytas (108:26)

And I upgrade everyone. I book flights for everyone who's flown out here for glam, for co host, for anyone. Get. Yes, I'm booking flights. I probably booked 20 flights this. This trip in New York. So I booked so many. And even for, like, the cheapest flight, me being like, okay, the cheapest flight, whatever we can get. I still will pick an aisle seat for someone. Because Even it's a 40 thing, I'm like, I'm gonna pick an aisle.

Cali (108:45)

I need you. I. I know comfortability, whatever my hips and knees, but handle it.

Trisha Paytas (108:50)

It is so crazy to be like, oh, like, you could have been the hero and you weren't. You could have been like, this a middle school. See that part?

Cali (108:59)

Okay, if it was an aisle, I got you.

Trisha Paytas (109:01)

Don't worry about it. Window for aisle, maybe a couple rows back.

Cali (109:06)

And who knows, maybe he paid for that seat too.

Trisha Paytas (109:09)

Of course you did. Of course you did. Always pay for that. So that's why I was like, what do you mean?

Jimmy (109:15)

And some people need to get up and walk, need to pee a lot, need to whatever. He might move back there, and there's somebody that's not less comfortable to sit next to or whatever. But let's say even they had no choice but to pick those two seats, right? They had the emergency, we need to fly. There's no flight. The last two seats, like, okay, so it's an inconvenience that you have to live with because you're doing something like, you didn't plan it weeks ahead. So it will be a little bit inconvenient. That's what you need to live with. And not get this person now. Oh, now we're gonna. I'm gonna put my crying baby in your face.

Trisha Paytas (109:50)

Yeah.

Jimmy (109:51)

What do you mean, make other people feel. Because as it is, you feel very conscious about flying with babies.

Trisha Paytas (109:56)

Yeah. People never want to be next to a baby.

Jimmy (109:59)

Yeah. So as it is, we feel so conscious about. Now we're going to make people feel like, oh, this is, like, the worst thing that can happen to you in your life if suddenly you sit next to a person with a baby or.

Trisha Paytas (110:08)

And the fact that that guy did, like, one of that seat so bad that he want to change even sitting next to a baby. People. Can I say, people are on with babies sometimes. Oh, my God. We were literally trying to get, like, our babies in the stroller. And this woman's, like, pushing past, like, like, literally, like, trying to get. I'm like, we are trying to get the babies in a stroller. There's. It's such a small aisle. Literally just, like, toppled over us to get over. Like, over the babies. Like, went over the babies getting in the stroller.

Cali (110:28)

Why do you need to go so fast?

Trisha Paytas (110:30)

Like, literally, like, I don't know what to tell you, lady. Like, and she got pissed.

Jimmy (110:33)

And I was like, you're gonna wait for your luggage.

Trisha Paytas (110:35)

Anyway, I almost was gonna. I was gonna fight. I was like, are you. She was pissed at us. She.

Jimmy (110:39)

Move, move. And I was like, the problem was that when she did that, then she blocked us from being able to do anything right then. We didn't have that space to take the luggage that, like, so we couldn't.

Trisha Paytas (110:48)

She was.

Jimmy (110:48)

So it took actually longer because she gets stuck in the middle of us.

Trisha Paytas (110:51)

Oh, my God.

Cali (110:52)

Sometimes you know what I do? Sometimes I just wait till everyone's gone, and then I get out. Sometimes I just can't handle.

Trisha Paytas (110:58)

Well, also with kids, they want to get out, too. So we're all trying to get out. We're all just trying to get out. So we have the kids, but they see the smallest kids. We have the tiniest. We have three babies with us. And I get it. It's, like, not ideal for anyone, but at the same time, it's not ideal for us. Do you think we want to. You know, but babies are a part of this world. You know what I mean? And it's. Whatever. So the fact that they were, like, mad and then use the baby to be like, let's piss this guy off. I was like, maybe it's rage bait. Maybe I would love to think he's not like that, because it's like, you have a $30 million pocket deal actually, like, just, you know, you're getting good interviews.

Cali (111:26)

You know what? I'm actually not gonna say anything about rage baiting anymore. If you're putting out that content, that is how I'm going to leave you.

Trisha Paytas (111:33)

You're right. You're right about that.

Cali (111:36)

I don't care if you're rage baiting. That is who you are.

Trisha Paytas (111:39)

You know what? You're right, because I didn't rage baiting.

Cali (111:40)

You want to put that out there and that's how you want to people.

Trisha Paytas (111:42)

You're right.

Cali (111:43)

Then I'm going to perceive you, which.

Trisha Paytas (111:44)

Makes you like a person. You're right. Because I would rage bait for money much Grace. Yeah.

Jimmy (111:50)

Something that happened to them in their personal life while traveling. I'm like, so what? So now let's say if the next thing that happened there was somebody like, your whole podcast is going to be about all the people that were not conforming to what you wanted from them. You know, because we talk about inconvenience. Like, you'll never ask anyone to do anything. They're the opposite. They're like asking everyone, like, you're going to move there. Then if you don't, you're. You could have been a hero. I'm like, no, no, he would not be a hero because he would give you one thing you wanted.

Trisha Paytas (112:18)

Yeah, but specifically, too, as like an influencer or anyone. It's like, that's like, are they more like conscious? Like, I. I will not inconvenience anyone. I feel like I'm inconvenient. Everyone. I apologize profusely for anything because it's like, you just don't want that look either. Like, what do you mean? Like, as a human, but also as like, you're an influencer person. I just did not like it.

Cali (112:35)

It's entitled because the next step is.

Jimmy (112:37)

That they'll show who it was or, you know, they're one step away from.

Trisha Paytas (112:42)

Oh, when people do that and they. They don't think it's gonna do. They think that, oh, watch, I'm gonna expose you. And it's like, we're not in that age anymore of exposing people. People don't want to see that from entitled people with people with money. And you're absolutely right about the rage waiting. I used to rage way too. It's like, I need the money, whatever. But you're a person. Even if you're like pretending to be a person or you're doing it for whatever, it's like that means you're Still a person. Because, like, why are you.

Jimmy (113:00)

But again, it's different. The things you used to do. Used to do, like, with yourself.

Cali (113:05)

Nugget is not right.

Jimmy (113:06)

Like, you. You didn't hurt.

Trisha Paytas (113:08)

That was real.

Jimmy (113:08)

You didn't try to hurt other people or inconvenience other people. You're just. With yourself, you know, it was a monologue, like, in public.

Trisha Paytas (113:15)

Yeah. I mean, there are people out there that I like and, you know.

Cali (113:19)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (113:20)

Misdirected and all this bad takes on my part sometimes. But, yeah, in real life, for sure. I'm never trying to, like.

Cali (113:27)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (113:27)

Especially like. Like, workers. Remember that challenge where you would, like, take an ice cream cone by the ice cream from McDonald's?

Cali (113:32)

I felt so bad for those.

Trisha Paytas (113:33)

Let's not do that.

Cali (113:34)

I'm like, they're just trying to hang.

Trisha Paytas (113:35)

Out that I hate. I hate that so much because those people are just. Just literally trying to make it through the day like everyone else. They don't need some influencer. That's why I'm, like, very just. I'm even Beetlejuice. I'm always like, I'm just happy to be here. I don't want to be influencer. That's coming in for three weeks and whatever, and just. I'm very much like, I'm just happy to be here. Even the stairs. I'm so, so going down the stairs. There's, like, literally 77 stairs to take a Beetlejuice. I literally let everyone pass me. I'm like, go. Like, you're gonna be on stage for us at the time. I'm literally done. Like, just go. And I'm slow. Like, I try my best to just be out of the way always. Well, we're almost out of time. But one person who rage baits, but also maybe awful person. I don'. Fulmer made his wrestling debut, and he is. He is someone that I'm just so confused by. You know anything about Ned Fulmer?

Cali (114:19)

You hate him.

Trisha Paytas (114:21)

Don't hate.

Cali (114:22)

You. Strongly dislike.

Trisha Paytas (114:24)

I strongly dislike. I think if there's one person on the Internet that I just. I don't think there's anyone I dislike more than Ed Fulmer. And I don't even know. Yeah, yeah. Not one person. Actually. I would. I would talk to anybody except for Ned Fulmer. I would literally be like, hi to anybody except for Ned Fullmer. His wrestling debut is insane. Him ripping off his shirt.

Cali (114:43)

Oh, I know everything about it. Outfit.

Trisha Paytas (114:46)

He had like, some. I must have been promoting something.

Cali (114:48)

It was like AEG or something sponsoring that guy.

Trisha Paytas (114:51)

Aeg. I Guess I don't know whoever was on that thing. I don't know who put him in wrestling. I don't know what is happening. I just am like, I Ned Fulmer, as I said in the last episode, cure cancer or get off the Internet. Because I just am like, well, I don't know what's happening and I don't like it. And it literally. It literally gives me. I start shaking when I see him. And that's all I had to say about that because I was going on still says shout outs that were always like, what's happening in the world? Let's see what's most is talking about. And she had the Ned Filmer. And I was triggered by the two faces of Ned Fulmer on there. I was like, oh my gosh.

Cali (115:22)

He wrestle?

Trisha Paytas (115:24)

Don't know. I mean legit, whatever wrestling thing he's a part of, like, it kind of looks like a big arena. I don't know. I don't know.

Jimmy (115:32)

I think what happened was in the last, you know, like he's been away for two, three years probably in the last year. They've been like planning his comeback and they were like selling it out. Like, they were selling it. You know, people were buying sponsorships, doing things. So I think in his mind this was a big comeback. The podcast drops the wrestling. There were other things that trying all kind of things. So I think it was a really carefully planned comeback, but they just didn't know that the comeback is not coming anywhere. Going anywhere now. So now he's going through. Yeah, it was good on paper and now he's going through all the motions, all the things while actually all collapsing.

Trisha Paytas (116:07)

This is the. This is the actual companies who should be canceling are these PR companies who are trying to help guide these comebacks that are just not right.

Jimmy (116:12)

Like, fine, let them take their money and it's fine. It's fine. Nobody should be. They're working people. They have jobs setting up the sabotage.

Trisha Paytas (116:22)

I don't even think they're trying to help.

Jimmy (116:24)

That's fine.

Cali (116:25)

Let Rage bait.

Jimmy (116:27)

You know, let Ned.

Cali (116:28)

They're banking on his downfall because people.

Trisha Paytas (116:30)

Are going to talk about it. I know, you're right. I shouldn't even talk about it.

Jimmy (116:33)

It.

Trisha Paytas (116:33)

Well, any final thoughts this week in pop culture to sum up your. Your.

Cali (116:38)

You are my fip. My week of. You are. You are my fyp. You're like, do you have any Hot Topics? I'm like, you are my hot.

Trisha Paytas (116:45)

Yeah. Thank you, Cat. It means a lot coming from you. Like the hosting of it All I've. I've had. This has truly been the best week ever. Truly, like I've had.

Cali (116:52)

This is my first vacation in a long time, and I've had a blast. And thank you for having me.

Trisha Paytas (116:55)

Oh, my gosh, it's been so fun with the kids and the shows and. And Jeff and everyone. Just family being together and food and activity and getting to host and all this stuff like that. Like getting to see red carpet stuff for access. It's been. It's been so fun. It's been literally like a dream. I, like, can't ask for anything more. And Hot Topics is always just fun. Everyone take it for what it is, entertainment purposes only. No rage baiting here. We're just having a little key. We're about to go do Patreon, where Moses takes over Hot Topics, so get ready for that, babe. I did a speed round of my Hot Topics because he's gonna share his Hot Topics and Cali, too. Cali bonus episode over there. So go check us out@patreon.com just trish. Check out our Thanksgiving salad. Just.com 30% off selected items and get your tickets to Trishma. Starting November 30th through December 22nd, we will be kicking it off in Long Beach, California. I love you guys. Thank you for the support, truly. Without you, I would not be here. And I am all about rebrand for divine and growth for people. Like, you know what? We're all about it. We want to give people a chance. We just want to see it. We want to see the action. All right, guys, I love you. Thanks for being here with us in New York City. Signing off from New York City for the final time this year. Maybe, maybe I'll be back. Who knows? But for the. For the unforeseeable future. Is that right? Did I use that right?

Cali (118:06)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (118:06)

This is us signing off New York City. Just Trish. It's wonderful. We'll be back in the pink room next week. Love you guys. Thanks for being here.