Trisha Paytas (1:54)

I would love to see you do that.

Moses Hacmon (1:55)

Me too, because I am curious. But also, it's like if I spray his hand, I'm a whole different season when I don't do. When I'm. No makeup. Whatever. I'm. One season.

Guest or Producer (2:04)

When. When you paint people, this is only. You only find that out when you actually paint. You have to use purples and pinks and blues to get people's skin tone.

Trisha Paytas (2:13)

When you paint people, like, when you.

Guest or Producer (2:15)

Do a painting of a person, you.

Trisha Paytas (2:17)

Have to use purple.

Guest or Producer (2:18)

Yeah. The colors that are in our skin are kind of like, not what we think it is.

Trisha Paytas (2:23)

Crazy.

Guest or Producer (2:24)

Yeah. Like, the. It's really odd. The. The combination of Colors that actually goes into our skin.

Trisha Paytas (2:30)

It's gonna be an episode. Today we had Arby's Monster. I was like, I'm very excited. Well, I can't talk about what it is, although it did come out today. I'm in a new Arby's commercial for a new menu item.

Moses Hacmon (2:40)

They got you back. That's how, you know, they booked you straight away.

Trisha Paytas (2:46)

It was crazy. They're like, do you wanna do another Arby's commercial? I was like, of course. That's. That's wild. Yes. It's out today with Cedric the Entertainer is also. Yeah, we're just like, Arby's. And it was. Yeah, it's out today. We're te something that's not out yet. It comes out, I believe, Monday, October 6th, I believe. So tune in for that commercial. What it is. I just got sent early, and it was so delicious. And then they also sent mozzarella sticks with it, and it paired nicely with it. Is that too much of a hint? Is that too much of a clue?

Moses Hacmon (3:19)

Or is that something pairs with the mozzarella sticks?

Trisha Paytas (3:25)

It does. It was great. I was. I didn't know it was coming today because I knew it was coming out next week, and I thought, okay, I'll try it, like, at some point. I. And it just so happened to be, like, right before we started this, which was, you guys know, once I eat a little snack and I had nothing to eat actually, this morning, I totally forgot. I think. I don't know. It was just a busy morning. I totally forgot to eat again. So I think it's gonna be a good one. When it starts with Arby's mozzarella sticks, it's delicious. Maybe we'll have them for the next podcast. It was so good. So I think it's gonna be a good one today. Lots of Hot Topics. Yeah, there's a lot. And there's. Oh, Patreon.

Guest or Producer (3:54)

There's finally have a head shot to show you guys.

Trisha Paytas (3:56)

Yes, we have a new head shot. This is a little bit of a spoiler. Headshot. Yeah, it's a little bit of a spoiler, but, hey, that's the headshot of the month, because. Yes, there it is.

Guest or Producer (4:09)

What does it make you think about?

Trisha Paytas (4:11)

It makes me think of a winter. I'm cold. That's why I wore it. I was like, I'm snowy.

Moses Hacmon (4:16)

Well, you are so skinny now, so. Yes, that's why you're cold.

Trisha Paytas (4:20)

Whoa. I see. Yes. Yes. So I was like, where are we going with this? But I love it. I love Anything that starts with, you're so skinny now. Which I am. I've been doing. Yesterday you saw me, I was in a one piece bodysuit. I was feeling myself so much. Yesterday, I was like, wow, I am so skinny. It is so weird how I have reverse body dysmorphia. Like, it's crazy. Like, I feel so skinny until, like, either like see myself next to someone or I weigh myself and I'm like, oh, like, I don't know why. I see myself as like 140lbs.

Moses Hacmon (4:44)

Skinny is a state of mind. Come on.

Trisha Paytas (4:46)

I mean, it is.

Moses Hacmon (4:47)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (4:47)

Yesterday in my jumpsuit, you could not tell me I saw Tara. Yummy. I went to Sugar Fisher Shade and I saw her. She came in actually, she was like, I just saw a Dolan twin there. Sugar Fish is the place to go. I didn't know and I didn't want to stare, but you know, you like, walk in. Have you been to Sugar Fish and Calabasas? I was just going into town and so I had just done my walk, my Pilates, and I was about to do a recording for a few hours. I was like, I need to have a snack. So I was like, I love. I love Sugarfish Calabasas. I walked in and it's. You know how you walk in and you like, see everyone? It's very small and you just see everybody and everyone's pretty much like, old. Like, not like my age, like middle aged people that are on their, like work break or they're from the office or something. But then you saw like a group of young kids. And I think it was. I know it was one of the Dolan's. I don't know which one, but he just like stood out so much, you know, you just see someone, you're just like, damn, he looks like Superman to me. In the.

Moses Hacmon (5:34)

Yeah, in the crowd. Very statuesque, those.

Trisha Paytas (5:36)

Are they tall? Because he was sitting. I don't know, but he looks.

Moses Hacmon (5:39)

Seen them in person, I guess I can look up their height, but their bones, like, their faces are very like.

Trisha Paytas (5:44)

Model esque faces, you know? Cause I think I always almost like, everyone's attractive. No one's ugly, no one's. But then you see some people like that, that just stand out and you're like, damn, that's a pretty attractive person.

Moses Hacmon (5:52)

They're 5 11. It's pretty tall.

Trisha Paytas (5:54)

Okay. He was very. He seemed very big. You know, you make eye contact too, and you're just like, especially me. I was like. I was feeling myself yesterday. I was in a bodysuit. I Had my hair brushed like I was. I was looking cute, but, you know, you just never know. I'm like, do you ever talk bad about them? I don't know. But they disappeared anyways, right?

Moses Hacmon (6:08)

They're not even on the Internet. Low key.

Trisha Paytas (6:09)

What if I just took a picture, spotted it. Yeah. I don't know. Me, I just hide again. Young people scare me in general, so I'm just, like, hiding in the corner waiting for my. But he was. You remember this Sidetrack and then I'll get back to the tar. Yummy of it all. Did you ever see the clip behind the scenes of Superman? Since you love Superman and David Corn Sweat, where he's walking in the crowd and all the extras are 5, 6 or under. Do you think that's, like, real? Like, the only hired people 5, 6, and underscore?

Moses Hacmon (6:34)

That's what James Gunn said.

Trisha Paytas (6:35)

Oh, he said.

Moses Hacmon (6:36)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (6:37)

Oh, it's like commentary or something.

Moses Hacmon (6:38)

Yeah, like the director, commentary. He said he really wanted, like, David Korn sweats, like, look taller. So, yeah, all the extras were shorties, which I could have been an extra, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (6:47)

No, you are not five, six. You're like five, nine.

Moses Hacmon (6:49)

I not five, nine. I'm like five, seven. So I'm out by an inch. But I guess I could, you know, have shrunk myself a little bit.

Trisha Paytas (6:56)

That's such a crazy thing because he's just tall, right? Like, David Cornstone's just a tall man.

Moses Hacmon (7:00)

Six, two.

Trisha Paytas (7:01)

So I mean, you could have had like, five, eight. And like, they looked small. Like, all. I didn't. I never saw the movies.

Moses Hacmon (7:05)

I didn't know, but I was like, that one clip.

Trisha Paytas (7:07)

They look like. I mean, and this is not obviously disruptive. It's like wizard of Oz. It's like, it reminds me of like. Yeah. Like when she appears in Munchkin Land. I'm not trying to be, like, disrespectful, but you know what I mean? Like, why do they make them so short when he was so, like, find a little balance.

Moses Hacmon (7:20)

It doesn't make it so stand out.

Trisha Paytas (7:22)

I guess that was crazy. But I love it. I love that. I love. I love that. The idea of, like, having people around you to appear. I guess. Yeah. If I'm always around people my size are bigger than. Maybe I look average. Right. I look like a normal size. I guess when you stand next to someone like Atara Yemi, who looked very good, who inspired me to go get a spray tan today, she's like, we just came back from a spray tan in the city I live in. And I was like, wow, really? And they looked so good. She was with her friend. She's had a birthday. I forgot her name. She was really cute. She has Y2K. They're roommates. And, yeah, I was sitting, waiting for my sugar fish. And then, you know, I looked. I don't look at anybody. I looked down the entire time. Especially that waiting room. It's very small, and there's just, like, men, businessmen, just talking in front of me. And so I always, like, keep my head down. And then someone comes in, like, hello. Hi. I'm, like, ignoring it. And then I look up and I was like, oh, my God. And it was Hara Yami. And she came in from outside. They were at La Land Cafe. They came in from outside to say hi. It was very sweet, very nice. She'll be at Unwell next weekend with me too. And she's like, oh, my God. And like, you're gonna be at Unwell. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna dj. What are you doing? And I was like, I'm. I have. I did the word of what I'm doing, and it does sound kind of exciting. So I'm not gonna tease it. I. I didn't know I was down for anything. There's there. It is a lot of excitement, actually. At first I was like, I don't really know what I'm doing. But I did a good call this morning and I was like, oh, this sounds really, really fun. So I'm really looking forward to it. And I guess Targami is DJing at a pool party for Unwell.

Moses Hacmon (8:39)

Oh, that's so cool.

Trisha Paytas (8:41)

Yeah, it sounds really cool. Against Paris Hilton Cjing the next day at Unwell. So it's an event not to be missed. I'm very excited, actually. I'm excited to be there. And I did find out. I did find out confirmation. They put out the schedule, the itinerary for Friday. Harry Jowsey will, in fact be somewhere Friday at Unwell.

Moses Hacmon (8:56)

Oh, I cannot wait.

Trisha Paytas (8:58)

That's the event. We just box each other. Could you imagine? Now that I think of it.

Moses Hacmon (9:03)

Oh, my God. You have to key with Harry, Josey. Yeah, you have to. Just for the gag of it all, you know, that is a gag.

Trisha Paytas (9:12)

I mean, it's something I think Bethany Frankel, I think is also there, which I love her on TikTok. And Sassy Schroeder.

Moses Hacmon (9:20)

Oh, fierce.

Trisha Paytas (9:21)

I think it's a good lineup.

Moses Hacmon (9:22)

Makes legends And Harry drowsy.

Trisha Paytas (9:26)

I know all the amazing people have lined up. I'm Like, Harry Jo is gonna be there. I was just. I thought maybe Saturday we, like, avoid each other, but it's all gonna be good. Everything is peaceful and loving and it sounds really fun. So I'm really excited and I heard there might be some special. So we'll see what's happening. Unwell. I don't know if tickets are still available, but if it is. October 10th in Vegas, me and Tara. Yummy. She looked great. She was very spray tan. She looks. They just look so cool all the time.

Moses Hacmon (9:50)

They do, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (9:52)

Tara's whole group, the It Girls, they really are. And yeah, the. God, I'm so sorry I forgot her name, but she just posted with her. She's had a birthday.

Moses Hacmon (9:58)

I just saw on her Instagram. When I see Atari on the Instagram. Sorry, I'm. I'm sad. Like, it's like a movie for me.

Trisha Paytas (10:05)

No, I'm obsessed with her and I was playing low key yesterday because I didn't want to be like, I love you. And she just. She just posted her too. It was like two days ago. The latest is it Sophia? Sophia, yes. So shout out Sophia and Tara. They both look so cute and beautiful. And I felt very cool that they came up to me because I'm always. But good thing I had that bodysuit because it was this. It was like a skims one piece body. And I was really feeling myself yesterday. And like I was put together. I just gone to the gym. I even used the gym showers. I was like, well, if you're paying this much, you might as well use some of their minty body washes. And I don't know if it's minty or eucalyptus or is it the same thing? I don't know. It was. I was very fresh because I had to look good for. I had a dress fitting and then I had a recording. So that was Monday yesterday. So I saw Dolan Twin and Tar Yummy. At the. I guess I say it's Calabas Commons. Very normal. I used to see Justin Bieber there. Maybe in 2012 when I lived with my mom. And Encino, we'd always go to the Calabas Commons to go to that movie theater which is closing.

Moses Hacmon (11:02)

It's closing.

Trisha Paytas (11:03)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (11:03)

They're reading me being gagged, but I don't go to it.

Trisha Paytas (11:06)

But you never go.

Moses Hacmon (11:07)

No, the AMC is just. It's where it's all right.

Trisha Paytas (11:09)

That is. I think that is a regal. Yeah, I do love a regal because they do come out with some fun.

Moses Hacmon (11:13)

No, it's not even a regal. It's like something random.

Trisha Paytas (11:15)

Edwards. Yeah, that might be all right. Yeah, I. We went. We saw Priscilla there, but there was a lot of young kids. A lot of young kids hang out there. I remember there's just so many young kids at that Priscilla screening. And I don't know what it is. I'm truly scared of teenagers or young people. There's teenage boys pulling up next to me at the. At the Calabas, and I was just like. And I. I'm eating sushi in my car. And I'm not even being paranoid. I'm like, no, they definitely were talking about me because they were trying to. Like, they were pointing. They definitely were like, yeah.

Guest or Producer (11:46)

Did they have their hands, like, in whispering?

Trisha Paytas (11:48)

Like, I mean, really, it was that I wasn't even being paranoid.

Moses Hacmon (11:51)

Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (11:51)

And I try to hold it together. So if you watch my shoes talk, I'm literally like, there's boys next to me and I'm really scared of them. Like, I didn't know what to do. I didn't know if I should stop, but I was in the middle and.

Guest or Producer (11:59)

I had my sister a piece of fish. They probably were hungry.

Trisha Paytas (12:01)

Well, I felt. Then I felt embarrassed. I'm eating in your. Like, you know, there's something embarrassing about eating in your car. To me, I guess as a fatty person. As a fat person.

Guest or Producer (12:07)

No, but not when you do. They were probably excited to see you in action.

Trisha Paytas (12:11)

No, they definitely were not excited to see me. It wasn't like, oh, trash. Like, you know, like a. Like a girl or something. You know, like, trash, we love you. Like something. No, it wasn't that. Because if it was, that'd be a different story. But it was, it was. It was scary. And they weren't in a Tesla. No judgment. But there was. I was just like, oh, okay, you know, right away if you. Anyways, it's fine if you have a Tesla, but I'm just saying. But so, so much fun. So, yes, I was dieting. Not dieting. What it is. I was driving to the Valley yesterday, and it was a fun time. We love a valley. It's a good time. Halloween Horror nights and all. Did you see the clip of the little baby at Halloween Horror Nights? No. Oh, my God. Someone brought their two year old. Well, it looked to be maybe a year and a half. Maybe. I'm gonna assume it's a two year old. A two year old. Halloween Horror nights. And you see the clowns were like, around him and like, they were kind of being cutesy. And the people posting, oh, my God, look How cute the clowns are with this like child. And the child wasn't screaming, the child was just like, oh, meandering along. But, and, but like the parents had the stroller behind him. And I'm like, interesting. And people like half the Internet was like, cool parents, we love this. The other half was like, sounds traumatizing.

Moses Hacmon (13:17)

Yeah, I, I know from. I consume so much YouTube content, I'm realizing, but I know from like the horror youtubers who like are also parents that like they kind of raise their kids. I don't know. It's like always around their kids.

Trisha Paytas (13:33)

Horror YouTubers?

Moses Hacmon (13:34)

Yeah, it's like a genre of YouTubers who review horror movies specifically.

Trisha Paytas (13:40)

And they just happen to be parents.

Moses Hacmon (13:42)

Yeah.

Guest or Producer (13:43)

And their parents and they have initiation for the kids. Sex, sports. They take the kids to sports from a young age because they want them to be the same.

Trisha Paytas (13:49)

Is that why?

Moses Hacmon (13:50)

Well, they have like a lot of the paraphernalia around the house too. Like the masks and all, like the props and stuff. And I think they kind of just grow up around it kind of. Cuz they like love it so much. I don't think they're showing their kids, you know, like, what's a scary movie? What's a.

Trisha Paytas (14:04)

Can you like Hostel? When I think. But yeah, my mom was taking us to that when I was. My sister was probably like 10. Did you watch horror movies as a kid?

Moses Hacmon (14:13)

No.

Trisha Paytas (14:13)

Maybe that's why you don't like them.

Moses Hacmon (14:15)

Well, I like them now. Oh, you do? Yeah, but not like super gory ones. I was always really, really afraid of everything as. Even horror nights. I was afraid of it through high school. Like I didn't like horror nights until college.

Trisha Paytas (14:26)

How did you ease into it?

Moses Hacmon (14:28)

I went for horror nights. I went once for work for strawberry 17.

Trisha Paytas (14:34)

Okay. Love that shout out.

Moses Hacmon (14:35)

I think I. Once I started doing it like more behind the scenes. Like, you know, we go with crew and stuff so everything is lit up so there was no jump scares. And so once I got like the, the gist of how they operate over there, I'm like, oh, dark corner, I know over there is gonna jump out.

Trisha Paytas (14:49)

Oh, interesting. But horror nights, it's like not even just dark corners. You're just walking.

Moses Hacmon (14:54)

Yeah, but when you're walking, it's kind of camp. Like, I don't know, like it's just so like obvious and it's like if you look scared, they're gonna come after you. So you kind of just like act like unbothered, unfazed.

Trisha Paytas (15:04)

Were you telling me now they give you A necklace?

Moses Hacmon (15:06)

Yeah. You can buy a little necklace so they don't come and scare you.

Trisha Paytas (15:09)

I like that idea of it. I know. I. I was that girl. I was, like, into horror movies. Like, I like. I actually like the aesthetic of them. Horror vibes. Coffee. Have you been Hollywood? I love it. It's so cute. Like, I love the aesthetic. I know none of the movies. Like, that's in there. Like, the one with the pins in his face. Do you know that one?

Moses Hacmon (15:25)

I know. I don't know the name, but I know which one you're talking about.

Trisha Paytas (15:27)

Yeah. Like, I like. You can get, like, a coffee with his, like, face on it. And I like the aesthetic, and it feels fun around this time of year. Like, Fonta just came out with, like, last year they did, like, a whole Beetlejuice Fonta. And this year they're doing all, like, Chucky and, like, those kind of characters. I don't know the other characters. I just know Chucky. But I wish I could get into them because it sounds fun around this time of year to be like, let's get scared. But I hate being scared. Maybe I need to do a horror movie in order to, like, get. Like you said, get that. But I did. The closest thing I had to doing a horror movie was, what time? How far are we in a Shane Dawson one called It Gets Worse. I was in a short film, and I just saw the circular on TikTok. Did you see it? I was gonna send it to you, but I was like, maybe you just see it and a lot of likes and it's me. I'm the. I'm the. What do they call the first girl that dies? The first girl that dies. Isn't there, like, something like, well, final.

Moses Hacmon (16:11)

Girl is the girl who lives.

Trisha Paytas (16:13)

So who's the first girl that dies? Like a Drew Barrymore in the beginning of Scream.

Moses Hacmon (16:17)

I don't know what the name is.

Trisha Paytas (16:18)

There's no name. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (16:19)

I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (16:19)

I thought maybe. First girl. I was the first girl. And, like, basically he did, like, a short film for, like, It Gets Worse and, like, all the cool YouTubers were inside, like, Joey and I forgot. Who else?

Moses Hacmon (16:29)

Ijustine. I don't know. Was she.

Trisha Paytas (16:31)

Why? I want to say it was kind of. I. Justine. I kind of was offended that I didn't get to be with the group of people. I was like, oh, my scene was just solely outside, and I died right away. But it was one where the killer appears in the back. I'm doing my lip gloss, and the killer appears in the Backseat. And he stabbed me through the backseat. And I, like, blocked this out. I do not remember this at all. Clearly, I must have been. But then when I saw this, it did remind me that I was terrified. Like, I had nightmares for days after I shot that. And, like, yeah, it's like. It's literally Shane Michael Galliard, totally sketch. And, like, who knows who in that? I don't even know who was in there. That's actually kind of scary. Like, who's in there? Who's the one doing it? Yeah, but it's crazy. And it was so fake, obviously. Like, they were just saying, okay, stab, Stab. And they have the blood coming out of the mouth, everything. And. Yeah, but I just remember doing the rear view mirror and seeing it that whatever that character was, he had back there. And I was like, nightmares, nightmares for days. So even though I was behind the scenes and I was, like, in on it, it still terrified me for days afterwards. So, I don't know, I was thinking maybe I should do a horror film to get over my fear. But it probably would just scare me more.

Moses Hacmon (17:34)

Probably. It depends on which one, I guess. I think some of them are campier than others.

Trisha Paytas (17:39)

Even a Chucky. I mean, I don't know Chucky, but I assume it's silly. With a little fnaf.

Moses Hacmon (17:44)

You got behind, right? You saw Fnaf Cali, right? Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (17:48)

Okay.

Guest or Producer (17:49)

That was very minimal. It is gory. Like, it's not okay.

Trisha Paytas (17:52)

Yeah, I could do a minimal, I guess when I think of horror films, the only ones I've actually seen through are the Hostile films. So that's what I just think in my head. And I of. Do you know Heather Matarazzo?

Moses Hacmon (18:01)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (18:02)

She was just in something we saw Wednesday. Wednesday?

Moses Hacmon (18:04)

Yeah, From Also Princess. Like, I know her from Princess Diaries.

Trisha Paytas (18:08)

And I know her from Hostel, too. And have you seen those movies?

Moses Hacmon (18:11)

No.

Trisha Paytas (18:12)

They're awful. Trigger, Warning, all of it. The first Hostel is about men that get tortured in a hostel. Okay, fine, I can deal with that. I didn't see that one. The second one I saw, and it's all females getting tortured.

Moses Hacmon (18:21)

Oh, I don't know if I like that.

Trisha Paytas (18:22)

Yeah, no, exactly. And I'm not trying to judge, but it's just. What? And Heather Matarazzo's death scene, and that is so insane. She gets tortured by another woman and it's just. She's, like, hanging upside down. It's like. So it's honestly the thing that's disturbed me the most. And I'm just like. I don't think I could Ever watch another horror movie again? But yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe if it's like a monster or something with like, a monster movie. There's a new one with Jacob. Lordy, there's a monster Frankenstein. Oh, is it Frankenstein? Yeah. Oh, someone's like, his monster is out. Oh, okay. Is that a monster?

Moses Hacmon (18:49)

Frankenstein is a monster. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (18:51)

Is he. I thought it was the doctor.

Moses Hacmon (18:54)

Dr. Frankenstein created the monster. Frankenstein.

Trisha Paytas (18:58)

Oh, the monster's name is Frankenstein?

Moses Hacmon (19:00)

Yeah. With like, the screws in the neck. Oh, the big head, like the square head, the green. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (19:07)

I think of Young Frankenstein. Mel Brooks. Like, I think of Gene Wilder, but okay. But yeah, so the monster is called Frankenstein too.

Moses Hacmon (19:14)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (19:14)

It's confusing because there's Dr. Frankenstein, who's.

Guest or Producer (19:16)

Gene Wilder, and then there's the being called Junior.

Moses Hacmon (19:19)

Oh, yeah. T.

Trisha Paytas (19:22)

I don't know if that was a joke or an actual insightful thing, but.

Moses Hacmon (19:24)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest or Producer (19:26)

Very scary.

Trisha Paytas (19:26)

Okay. Yeah. So that's considered horror, I think there's, you know, shades.

Moses Hacmon (19:32)

There's like the PG13 horror movies. Like, those are like the FNAF Megan Scream, actually, maybe Scream is rated R, but, like, the. There's like, you know, the PG13, which they can't show a lot of, like, blood or they only get, like, one F bomb and stuff. And then there's the rated R, which are worse. And then there's the NC17, which is the worst.

Trisha Paytas (19:51)

Which one's NC17?

Moses Hacmon (19:52)

That's just like Lawless. It's like you can just kind of do whatever.

Trisha Paytas (19:55)

Is there a movie that is NC17?

Moses Hacmon (19:57)

I think terrifier, which is like a newer horror franchise. It's like this clown.

Trisha Paytas (20:03)

Oh.

Moses Hacmon (20:04)

And it's like a low budget movie, but it was supposed to be, like, so graphic and horrifying that people were, like, getting sick in the movie theater and having to, like, be taken out on a stretcher.

Trisha Paytas (20:15)

Do you think that's real or do you think that's, like, propaganda? People just make up a rumor?

Moses Hacmon (20:19)

I think it was real. Maybe it happened, like, once at first, but it is very, very, very graphic. And, like, nothing is off limits, like, even kids. So, like, that's why it's like NC17.

Trisha Paytas (20:29)

That is giving FNAF nachos now with the kids. Because I always thought that too. I was like, oh, it's a little much with the kids dying. Like, why do we have to kill that?

Moses Hacmon (20:35)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (20:36)

Or what's the other one we just talked about with the woman? Aunt Gladys? What is that one?

Moses Hacmon (20:39)

Oh, weapons.

Trisha Paytas (20:40)

Yeah. Why does it have to be Kids. Kids.

Moses Hacmon (20:42)

Tea. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (20:43)

Maybe like teenage boys or something, you know, that seems better. They seem more of the enemy than a child. I don't know, it seems like, kind of wild. They're doing a Gladys prequel.

Moses Hacmon (20:54)

Yeah, they are. My friend works on Screen Rant and she. She told the director about you.

Trisha Paytas (21:01)

Really? Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (21:02)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (21:02)

What'd he say?

Moses Hacmon (21:04)

He liked your cosplay.

Trisha Paytas (21:06)

She showed him the picture of the cosplay?

Moses Hacmon (21:08)

Yes. Because she asked him. She's like, oh, my God, people are already dressing up as Aunt Gladys. I don't know if you've seen Trisha Paytas's costume.

Trisha Paytas (21:17)

No.

Moses Hacmon (21:18)

Yeah. He's like, I think it's gonna be a really popular Halloween costume now.

Trisha Paytas (21:21)

Wow. The director approved. He liked it.

Moses Hacmon (21:24)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (21:24)

He said, I like it.

Moses Hacmon (21:25)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (21:25)

We need an exact quote. I would love a quote, but I love it. And to all the young ones out there that are just promoting me to these higher ups, it's very sweet. Maybe she is higher up. I don't know. Honestly, Gen Z are the higher ups now. So she's Gen Z or she's your age.

Moses Hacmon (21:40)

She's like. She's millennial. She's like my age. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (21:42)

Shout out to the millennials. No, Shout out to the Gen Xers, though. Y' all judge me too hard. And the boomers. Hell no. Actually, the boomers, I don't care. Except for parents. Lovely parents. You can stay. Honestly, why did I even shame people who don't have kids? It's fine. Everyone can stay. It's the boomers in Hollywood that I don't like. That were in position of powers when I came here. That told me I was too fat or too ugly or not talented. The talented part I'll give you, but the other part I. What? That's mean. So, yeah, I heard the fan casting for the Aunt Gladys prequel. People had suggested Jinx Monsoon.

Moses Hacmon (22:16)

Oh, yeah. That would make so much sense.

Trisha Paytas (22:18)

She would eat her entire Broadway. Oh, Mary. She's now married right now. It's completely sold out.

Moses Hacmon (22:24)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (22:25)

I was trying to get tickets and I was like, oh, my gosh. It's completely sold out.

Moses Hacmon (22:27)

So like, 47 shows?

Trisha Paytas (22:29)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (22:29)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (22:29)

Insane. 47 shows in New York, sold out. And then she's doing her holiday shows with. Who's the. Who does she go on tour with? Yes.

Moses Hacmon (22:38)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (22:38)

They're doing holiday shows again this year. I was like, she really is that girl too. She really is that girl. She's been in Chicago, she's been in Little Shop. She's been in Doc, the Doctor who One. Was it everything happy for her. She looks great, too. She looks amazing. I want to be friends with her.

Moses Hacmon (22:54)

I could see that. I love Jinx.

Trisha Paytas (22:57)

Have you met her?

Moses Hacmon (22:59)

I don't know if I. I started covering Drag Race after her season. Maybe, like, season. Maybe season seven. I don't think I ever have. No. And I've met a lot of the other ones. I covered Drag Race from for work from, like, season seven all the way to, like, All Stars 3. So I met a lot of them, but not Jinx.

Trisha Paytas (23:23)

Who's your fave?

Moses Hacmon (23:24)

Oh, I loved Aja. She was just on this past season of All Stars. I just love her. I think she's, like. So she's in ball. She's a ballroom girl.

Trisha Paytas (23:35)

She just goes by Asha. Is there last name she.

Moses Hacmon (23:38)

What is she now? She changed it semi recently. She made it her, like, her ballroom name.

Trisha Paytas (23:44)

Is she ballroom dancer, like a competitor?

Moses Hacmon (23:46)

Yeah, like, she was in Aja Mugler. Aja Miyake Mugler.

Trisha Paytas (23:50)

Ooh, love.

Moses Hacmon (23:51)

Yeah, that her. She's in the Miyake Mugler, like, ballroom house. She was on. She was on Drag Race. I think she was in. Oh, my God. What season? I forget what season it was. And then she was On All Stars 3, I think the one with Trixie Mattel. Oh, and then she came back for this past season of All Stars, but she also competed on the show Legendary, like, the ballroom competition show because she became, like, a ballroom girl.

Trisha Paytas (24:17)

Where? What? Where's that air?

Moses Hacmon (24:18)

It aired on hbo, but they took it off hbo. Max. But it's still. I think you can still find it. They just. They don't want to pay, like, royalties anymore, which is so annoying because it's such a good show. Like, if you haven't seen it, it is, like, so fun. Kiki Palmer is one of the judges. Meg the Stallion is a judge. Law Roach is a judge. It is such a key. Like, it is so good. The choreography is so good. And that literally all, like, the trends, like, you know, the clapping like this and like, the, like, all the terminology that's like, you know, like the slay diva mama. Like, all of that comes from ballroom. So. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (24:53)

Who are the competitors?

Moses Hacmon (24:55)

It's like these. They're like houses. So it's like real teams, basically. Like these real, like, fam. Like, not drag families, but these real families come together and they just compete. They make. It's like they make their own teams. No, there are drag queens, like, in there either. Like, there's drag queens in it. A lot of, like, Aja Transition So she was on Drag Race and then she transitioned and then got into ballroom. Oh, yeah. You know, from like the. From like pose. Because that's the bottom show.

Trisha Paytas (25:23)

So.

Moses Hacmon (25:24)

Yeah, it's really big for like trans girls.

Trisha Paytas (25:26)

Okay. Okay. Very cool. I know. And how many seasons of legend?

Moses Hacmon (25:29)

I think there's been three. Three or four. I would love it. Like.

Trisha Paytas (25:33)

And they took it off.

Moses Hacmon (25:34)

They took it off. But you can still buy it like on Amazon or something. And it's so worth it because it's so good.

Trisha Paytas (25:40)

We buy shows all the time.

Moses Hacmon (25:41)

The choreography is amazing.

Trisha Paytas (25:43)

It is. Oh, okay. Dying for that. What did she ever do, like, ballroom dancing? Like Dancing with the Stars or Strictly Come Dancing or anything?

Moses Hacmon (25:51)

No, just like Vogue. Like that kind of bar she probably could do because she's like. She like all like the death drops and stuff. Like, death drops comes from ballroom. Like so much of like gay. Like mainstream gay culture, like, originates in ballroom.

Trisha Paytas (26:04)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (26:04)

So they never had a queen.

Trisha Paytas (26:06)

Except for Shangela, I think was the only one on Dancing with the Stars. Right.

Moses Hacmon (26:09)

Maybe. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (26:10)

I feel like they never had.

Moses Hacmon (26:11)

You're right. They should do more. But there are so many are such good dancers. Like, yeah. Aja is like such a good dancer. She's like a lip sync assassin.

Trisha Paytas (26:21)

You still follow her?

Moses Hacmon (26:22)

Yeah, I love her because she literally was just on this past All Stars and she was so good. I was reading for her, like, it.

Trisha Paytas (26:28)

Just aired this year. 2025 this past.

Moses Hacmon (26:30)

Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Like maybe January ish. Or something. The time is kind of like. But earlier this year, October.

Trisha Paytas (26:38)

Which is crazy.

Moses Hacmon (26:39)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (26:41)

I mean, how. Like it's. Anyways, it's crazy how fast. Well, I have to look in terror.

Moses Hacmon (26:45)

You would love Legendary. Like, you should. I mean, it's like so old now, but it just like it's so. Even though it's like a been a few years since it came on, like the terminology, everything that. That they do and say and perform, like all of that is still relevant. And one of the contestants, Honey Balenciaga, she is. She was Beyonce's dancer on both of her tour. Like, she's everywhere. Like, she's just like little pint size. She's like a 5 one, but she like, like flips. She does the craziest stuff. And she is so booked after Legendary. Like, she dances with everyone.

Trisha Paytas (27:16)

Okay, I'm watching. You sold me. We'll buy it. We always buy shows. Any shows dropped it anyway to buy. Yeah, we'll buy. We'll buy. Legendary for sure. Okay. I love getting you getting excited. About it.

Moses Hacmon (27:25)

Oh, I just love that show. I was so sad when they removed it because I would re watch it too, just because it's so, like, it feels good. Like, they're all so talented. Like, everyone is talented.

Trisha Paytas (27:35)

I love that. I wonder if they do those kind of classes, like, voguing classes.

Moses Hacmon (27:38)

They do, yeah, actually, like, teaches voguing classes. Yeah. I think in New York.

Trisha Paytas (27:44)

Let's do it. Really? Should that be so much fun? I would a lot of, like, Drag.

Moses Hacmon (27:49)

Race girls now will, like, book a class with Aja before so they can, like, are ready to, like, lip sync and stuff, because she is, like, the lip sync.

Trisha Paytas (27:57)

I would love to do that. That sounds like the most exciting thing in the whole world. Sounds way better than horror movies, that's for sure. I was like, we were starting off a little demonic, but now we're getting into happy butterflies, and I love it so much. Oh, my gosh. Sold, done and done.

Moses Hacmon (28:09)

There we go.

Trisha Paytas (28:10)

I love it. Oh, my gosh. And your Taylor Swift tweet.

Moses Hacmon (28:13)

Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (28:14)

Got a lot of traction.

Moses Hacmon (28:16)

You asked for the Taylor lore, which is so funny.

Trisha Paytas (28:19)

You were so cute. It was the top, like, left picture, I think it was. And it was so cute. It was you, like, posing next to a cardboard dealer. That is so me. How old were you around that age? 16, 20?

Moses Hacmon (28:31)

10. So 7? No, 18. 17.

Trisha Paytas (28:34)

18, 17. That was so me at 17, too. I was like, we would have been such good friends. I was like, oh, my. It was just so cute. You just looked like. You look like you, but just, like, sweet. Just sweet. I don't know. You just look so full of life. You always are so full of life. But that one is just like, I love Taylor. This is what I'm doing. I'm taking pictures next to the cardboard cutout, and I love taking pictures next to the cardboard cutout. So I'm sure I can find one of me, like, posing next to, like, a Michael Jackson or an Elvis or something like that. Like, I love a cardboard cutout. It was so cute. Where was it? Where was that?

Moses Hacmon (29:03)

A blockbuster. A sign of the times, Mama. Yes. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (29:08)

Before you met her. That was the first.

Moses Hacmon (29:09)

Yeah. I was like. I was looking for photos and I was going. I was trying to find a reaction photo at first, and then I. I found randomly in my reaction folder was that set of photos, and I was like, oh, fierce.

Trisha Paytas (29:21)

That's you. And they were all with Taylor. You had three with Taylor.

Moses Hacmon (29:23)

Three with Taylor.

Trisha Paytas (29:24)

In that. In that.

Moses Hacmon (29:25)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (29:26)

Feed. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (29:27)

I guess it was my trajectory from cutout. To hanging out in a kitchen.

Trisha Paytas (29:31)

Well, it was. It was cool because then you're with your. The group that won the contest, and then you're. Then you have your two solo ones, and by the last solo, you're like. Like, you're serving face. Then do you have a cigar in one?

Moses Hacmon (29:42)

So the. It went from, like, speak now is the cardboard cutout red era was when I met her for the contest. Reputation is when I met her at her concert because I wrote, like, an article about her. And then lover got invited when she was doing, like, press for the album in New York. And, yeah, Lover was weird. It was, like, in a kitchen. There was, like, eight people that were invited. Like, eight, like, people in the press that were invited. And then, yeah, we were supposed to do a photo, like, in front of the step and repeat, but it wasn't, like, ready yet. So then they just. They had us waiting in the kitchen, and Taylor was like, we can just take it here.

Trisha Paytas (30:16)

Love that.

Moses Hacmon (30:16)

And then I was last because I was so anxious. And then she was like, what do you want to do for your photo? And I was like, I don't know, Queen. You tell me again. You know, I get so gay.

Trisha Paytas (30:23)

And then.

Moses Hacmon (30:26)

You tell me, mama. And then she was like, what if we hold these pretzel sticks and we hold them like cigars?

Trisha Paytas (30:32)

It was like, that's so funny and different. I love it. It's just. Because you know what? Those photos are even cooler. I love when, like. Yeah, if you, like, miss, like, a meet and greet or something and that. Yeah, they get to be, like, candid. Like, if you. If you are in, like, a back kitchen or an alleyway, it's like, oh, we're just hanging out backstage. We didn't do a meet and greet.

Moses Hacmon (30:49)

Yeah, there was someone else who, like, he wanted to be having a key with Taylor next to, like, the trash can. And that became, like, a meme because it was like me talking to the trash or whatever, you know?

Trisha Paytas (31:00)

And she was down.

Moses Hacmon (31:01)

Yeah, she literally was so down for anything.

Trisha Paytas (31:03)

I love that.

Moses Hacmon (31:04)

She's, like, very, very chill.

Trisha Paytas (31:06)

I always get nervous when people ask for things because you're like. You never know what that actually means. Like, obviously it means something. Well now, but everyone wanted to do those little hearts on this tour. On my tour. And I was like, are we sure this is okay? But everyone was doing. Now I realize, like, they're cute. See? But I didn't know. I was like, okay. Sometimes they just have to do wild things.

Moses Hacmon (31:22)

Yeah, well, this with Taylor, her publicist, like, Texted us the photos after and I could tell there was specific ones where they weren't actually pencil sticks were being smoked. Oh, did you.

Trisha Paytas (31:32)

Did you smoke them?

Moses Hacmon (31:33)

Yeah, she really had. We took a few and like, there were different poses of her, like in her mouth and stuff. The ones that were set were the ones that were, you know, most looking.

Trisha Paytas (31:41)

Like pretzel behind the scenes. Tea. I love that.

Moses Hacmon (31:44)

Yeah. So if anything, I was inappropriate. Like, tree would have clocked that.

Trisha Paytas (31:48)

Okay.

Moses Hacmon (31:48)

Yeah, yeah. Tree is fierce. Tree is that. These are the ones. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (31:52)

You look great. All of them. I love, I love that. I just couldn't stop thinking about it after our thing. I was like, I just love that you're just a fan.

Moses Hacmon (31:57)

I know you're random too. I was like, okay.

Trisha Paytas (32:00)

So happy. I was like, I love, like, I feel like there's just not like people don't have, like, joy for little things. I mean, a lot of people do, obviously. The fangirls of the world, like us or, you know, you, me, whoever. Like, it's fun, but people who don't get it, don't get it. They're like, I can't believe you'd be like this obsessed with somebody or this like it. But it's like, I don't know, looking forward to something in life is.

Moses Hacmon (32:15)

I know. Anything really. And too now, like a lot of people, there's like a lot of shame whenever you stand something really popular. But I'm excited just to like, be free. My swifty chip is just fully activated. Swifty zoomies are in full effect.

Trisha Paytas (32:30)

This is the week.

Moses Hacmon (32:30)

Yeah, this is the week.

Trisha Paytas (32:31)

And.

Moses Hacmon (32:32)

And oh, I'm going to see Cutie Cinderella. I was going to see the movie with her, but then she got invited to like a special YouTube, like, screening of it. And then now we're going to that instead of just a regular schmegular screening.

Trisha Paytas (32:45)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (32:46)

She's like, it's two hours later than we were gonna see it, but there's gonna be goodie bags. Like, should we do this instead? I was like, yeah. She's so sweet. I know.

Trisha Paytas (32:55)

Oh, my God. That's actually so cool.

Moses Hacmon (32:56)

I'm so excited.

Trisha Paytas (32:57)

It's so fun too, when you find someone that, like, loves the same thing.

Moses Hacmon (33:00)

Yeah, we're the same level and like the same amount of time. So to be like unabashedly like a swifty and not have to worry about, like, being cringy or whatever it's gonna be. I'm so excited.

Trisha Paytas (33:09)

She gonna make a cake?

Moses Hacmon (33:11)

Maybe she will.

Trisha Paytas (33:12)

That'd be so Funny Taylor Swift cake. I love her cake.

Moses Hacmon (33:15)

Her cakes are insane.

Trisha Paytas (33:16)

I love. And they taste very good too. Yeah, I loved the Taylor Swift. She did like a little video and she had like a little. What was like a little mirror right here or something. What is that, a diamond? What was it?

Moses Hacmon (33:25)

Let me see.

Trisha Paytas (33:26)

It was so pretty because I was like, you should cosplay this on the next. It looked pretty. It didn't look pink enough. I think it was kind of orangey peachy. Maybe for the podcast. But it was so pretty. She was like doing something like a movement. Like she was. I don't know what it was like advertising.

Moses Hacmon (33:36)

Oh, my God. I can't find it now. I know what you're talking about, though.

Trisha Paytas (33:40)

I loved it. I didn't know what it was either. I thought maybe you knew what it was. I don't know what I was burning probably obviously her album, but I didn't know.

Moses Hacmon (33:45)

But Kitty also does like. So do like always pull out like a random photo shoot, I think because her for her podcast to show glam on occasion.

Trisha Paytas (33:54)

So yeah, the one with the boys are just different one.

Moses Hacmon (33:57)

She has whine about it with Valkyrie.

Trisha Paytas (34:00)

That's when you were on.

Moses Hacmon (34:01)

Yeah, yeah. It used to be with Maya Higa, but now it's with Valkyrie since we're celebrating friendship.

Trisha Paytas (34:08)

What is this what you post me? He posted something and it was so secretive. And then he was like laughing to himself and I was like, what, are you both scared? Oh. Oh, I love the fork for this pudding. Have you had a pudding cup before, babe? Oh, is this a joke?

Guest or Producer (34:25)

It's not a joke.

Trisha Paytas (34:26)

I think it is because the things that make your spoon swoon.

Guest or Producer (34:28)

Oh, no, no. It has nothing to do with the fork.

Trisha Paytas (34:30)

Is not part of the gag.

Guest or Producer (34:32)

Well, it's pudding with gavel.

Trisha Paytas (34:34)

What?

Guest or Producer (34:35)

It's a German thing.

Trisha Paytas (34:37)

Putting the gavel put in meat.

Guest or Producer (34:40)

Gavel. Pudding with a fork. Eating pudding with a fork.

Trisha Paytas (34:43)

Okay, so it is. This is the. This is the.

Guest or Producer (34:45)

This is what people do to celebrate friendship nowadays.

Moses Hacmon (34:48)

Is this on Tick Tock? Is this on the TikTok?

Guest or Producer (34:52)

Have you ever been offline again?

Moses Hacmon (34:54)

I have not been online the past.

Trisha Paytas (34:56)

Wait, really? Oh, my gosh. Well, good thing we have Chronicler online. Moses over here to help us. Oh, my God, I'm making such a mess of this.

Guest or Producer (35:02)

So. Yeah, don't make a mess.

Trisha Paytas (35:03)

Well, I just did it.

Guest or Producer (35:05)

So, yeah, we're just helping people around the world celebrate friendship.

Trisha Paytas (35:08)

But how can you explain. Can you give us further? This is in Germany. This is what they do Germany.

Guest or Producer (35:12)

We're talking about thousands of people, like, huge gatherings of people. And I think they copied us. We had the, you know, garlic toast in the. Yeah, yeah. So this is just everyone with a pudding and a fork in a park.

Trisha Paytas (35:29)

I love it. And it's not that hard to eat if you take enough of it. Look, if you take a big scoop.

Guest or Producer (35:33)

Of it and people bring up, you know, special forks, and I love a pudding. So basically, young people, they're so online, and they're not connected, so they just found a way to physically connect.

Trisha Paytas (35:45)

Why the fork?

Guest or Producer (35:46)

And they all show up. I think it's because it's not traditional or not.

Trisha Paytas (35:50)

Oh, it's different.

Guest or Producer (35:51)

The purpose is really to connect, you know, people together in the same physical space.

Trisha Paytas (35:57)

So we're all friendships now because we're eating. I love how we're all eating the pudding too. It's so good.

Guest or Producer (36:01)

This is not bad, actually.

Trisha Paytas (36:02)

I love a pudding cup. I love a pudding cup. I don't. This brand is crazy, babe. I'm not even trying to be like, Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but that's a crazy brand.

Guest or Producer (36:10)

I was going for the aesthetic, you know, it was hard to find.

Trisha Paytas (36:12)

But the jello one looks like this, and the jello one is tasty. Is this sugar free? I have a feeling. Sugar free.

Guest or Producer (36:17)

No, I didn't get sugar free made.

Trisha Paytas (36:19)

With real milk protein.

Guest or Producer (36:20)

Because anything. Anything sugar free has weird after things.

Trisha Paytas (36:24)

It kind of. Yeah, okay. It's good. I. I see. Okay. You know, gel cups come six in a. In a thing. I see all six of them in a sitting. Did you ever, like, gel, like pudding?

Moses Hacmon (36:31)

Like that pudding, Jello pudding? Yeah. I love tapioca pudding.

Trisha Paytas (36:35)

Me too.

Moses Hacmon (36:36)

Really? I love the little chunks in there.

Trisha Paytas (36:39)

Have you ever had the tapioca pudding at Brent's?

Moses Hacmon (36:41)

No.

Guest or Producer (36:42)

It's so funny. I almost ordered that one, but. But it's not. But that's not what they do. They have. They have the cap, and they tap on it.

Moses Hacmon (36:51)

Oh, we didn't tap.

Trisha Paytas (36:52)

Oh, oh, we didn't tap. Bad luck tap on yours. So we have all friendships in here.

Guest or Producer (36:58)

So anyway, that was tap.

Trisha Paytas (36:59)

Babe, I'm. I'm worried it's superstitious if we don't tap. Friends forever. Yay. Okay. I love it, but I really wish we got that tapioca now, especially. Okay, next time. Next time we'll get tapioca pudding. Because, honestly, I didn't know you like tapioca. It's very acquired taste. And the tapioca at Bren. My. My dad was the one who, like, put me onto it because his mom used to make really good tapioca pudding. And my dad's, like, every time I would, like, fail my driver's license test, my. My mom would always make me a tapioca pudding. And so he loves it. And you can get it by the court. You can get, like, a pint of, like, tapioca pudding. And it's, like, texturey. It's, like, kind of thick and bubbly.

Guest or Producer (37:34)

Maybe when we have everyone here for Halloween.

Moses Hacmon (37:36)

Oh, good.

Trisha Paytas (37:37)

Does everyone like tapioca? Jimmy, let us know in the edit if you like tapioca.

Guest or Producer (37:40)

Make a bowl.

Trisha Paytas (37:41)

My mom likes tapioca. I don't know if my sister does. I think my sister might get different.

Guest or Producer (37:45)

Kinds too, but different kinds of puddings, so from brands from different places, just to have a few options here. I can take it.

Trisha Paytas (37:54)

Wow.

Guest or Producer (37:55)

Pudding meat, gavel.

Trisha Paytas (37:57)

Pudding meat, gavel. Like a. Like a. Like a gavel.

Guest or Producer (38:00)

I think gavel in German means fork. Oh, it's pudding with a fork.

Trisha Paytas (38:04)

Oh, it's in Germany. That's what's happening. Well, guten tag. Is that thank you or Donkeshain? Donkeyshane, right?

Moses Hacmon (38:14)

I have no idea.

Trisha Paytas (38:14)

You don't have donkeyshain?

Moses Hacmon (38:15)

No.

Trisha Paytas (38:16)

You never heard the song?

Moses Hacmon (38:17)

No.

Trisha Paytas (38:17)

Donker Shane, darling. Donker Shane. Thank you all for eat. Wayne Newton.

Moses Hacmon (38:24)

Who?

Trisha Paytas (38:30)

I want Wayne Newton on the podcast. I love him. Mr. Las Vegas. He's so good. I love Wayne New. Maybe he'll be at Unwell. Isn't that crazy? If I did an Unwell festival, I'd want, like, Wayne Newton and Donny Osmond there.

Guest or Producer (38:42)

That was my mug today.

Trisha Paytas (38:44)

Oh. Oh, random. Why was that? That's so random.

Guest or Producer (38:48)

Just when I came across him.

Trisha Paytas (38:50)

I think about him often. He is nice.

Guest or Producer (38:51)

He's going to Vegas. So whenever you go to Vegas, that's.

Trisha Paytas (38:53)

I think, oh, I can't go. That's the problem with Vegas shows. Like, if you're in a Vegas show, you can't go see other shows because they're all happening at the same time. Dang it. Well, I'll probably just go to bed. I think I'm flying back. I don't know what's happening, but. All right. Well, I love that one. That was a good one. That's a tasty one. I love when we can eat your little gags. They're so fun.

Guest or Producer (39:16)

Can't eat the rocks, by the way. There's a huge demand. People are dming and asking for the rocks.

Moses Hacmon (39:21)

Oh, you should put them on.

Trisha Paytas (39:22)

Yeah, I don't think we should sell them?

Guest or Producer (39:24)

No, but ship them too. I think one place was like, they do crystals and stuff. So.

Trisha Paytas (39:30)

Wait, wait, who? What you're gonna send people just sending.

Guest or Producer (39:32)

Me DMs and they have a crystal shop and they want the rocks.

Trisha Paytas (39:36)

So I don't know. Let's verify. Half of us have pictures of the crystal shop. They're like, we want this in our crystal shop.

Guest or Producer (39:44)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (39:47)

Sounds like someone's just making up. I think everyone's scamming me. If I get an email, I think everybody's scamming me. I have to look and make sure it's the app. Mention of like. Like, is it from this actual place? Is it at NBC uni? I need to know.

Guest or Producer (39:58)

At least we made it up for the Berlin hiccup or German hiccup with the Berlin Marathon.

Trisha Paytas (40:04)

Oh, what happened? What did we do? What did we say? Do you know? Okay, yeah, same. I'm like, we're like, oh, okay.

Guest or Producer (40:11)

Like the Berlin Marathon. He's like, where is that?

Trisha Paytas (40:15)

I assume Germany by your context of this.

Moses Hacmon (40:17)

Okay, it was the Berlin Marathon.

Trisha Paytas (40:21)

Where is it?

Moses Hacmon (40:22)

And Berlin.

Guest or Producer (40:25)

Germany.

Trisha Paytas (40:26)

Oh, both of you said as it was like the most obvious thing in the world. Never heard of it.

Guest or Producer (40:32)

So there we go. We made up. Okay, next hot topic.

Moses Hacmon (40:38)

Well, there's a new young actress on the scene.

Trisha Paytas (40:40)

Oh, Tilly.

Moses Hacmon (40:41)

Tilly Norwood.

Trisha Paytas (40:43)

Tilly. What is this?

Moses Hacmon (40:46)

This girl? They want to. Her creators want her to be the next Scarlett Johansson, which is a crazy thing to say. She's AI actress that is being shopped around now to for different, like representation and like traditional talent management. She is the first creation to emerge from a AI talent studio, Zixosia. And the they're partnering with a production studio called Particle 6, which does some shows for the BBC network across the pond, which is kind of crazy.

Trisha Paytas (41:22)

That's pretty big.

Moses Hacmon (41:24)

But they are moving forward with AI projects and they conceptualized this AI actress Tilly. And now she is on her Facebook page, she recently announced that she is going to be in a comedy sketch. And on her Facebook page she wrote, can't believe it. My first ever role is live. I star in AI Commissioner, a new comedy sketch that playfully explores the future of TV development. Produced by the brilliant team at Particle 6 Productions. I may be AI generated, but I'm feeling very real emotions right now. I'm so excited for what's coming next. And yeah, her creators are trying to make her to be the new Scarlett Johansson. And apparently some talent management has been eyeing her to eyeing to sign her, which is Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (42:14)

I hate it.

Moses Hacmon (42:15)

Me too. I hate it.

Trisha Paytas (42:16)

Isn't this the whole reason that we went on. They went on strike, like, two years ago.

Moses Hacmon (42:19)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (42:22)

I'm so confused. Why is anyone support BBC supporting it? Like, talent agents? Like, why are they supporting this?

Moses Hacmon (42:27)

No idea. I guess because people just think it's the future. Oh, yeah. One of the quotes was like. One of the quotes from Tilly's creator was like, audiences, they care about the story, not whether the star has a pulse. Tilly is already attracting interest from talent agencies and fans. The age of synthetic actors is. Isn't coming. It's here.

Trisha Paytas (42:45)

Where's the love? No, no, no, no, no. They probably bought that article, whoever created it. Like, you can totally buy publicity, which, I mean, I didn't know, but you can literally buy publicity. So them saying, like, everyone, this is it. This is like. Well, first of all, I would never have known. The only reason I know is how Lucas Gage posted a story and was like. Worked with her. She was terrible. And I was like, who's this? So then I looked it up. I was like, oh, hey, I don't care. You know what I mean? Like, I would never have known. I didn't see it anywhere. Daily Mail probably didn't pick it up. You know what I mean? Page Six isn't talking about it. And those are the trashy ones. So what? Who's talking about AI except for us here right now?

Moses Hacmon (43:15)

Trades, like, deadlines.

Trisha Paytas (43:16)

The trades. I bet the trades are talking about it.

Moses Hacmon (43:19)

And not like a lot of, like, actors are speaking out against it now, too. A la Lucas Gage. I think Emily Blonde, your friend spoke out about Tilly. So the Tilly ops are rising for sure.

Guest or Producer (43:31)

C. Goldberg and Fox News and all kind of people. But I think, I mean, this is a form of rage bait, right? In journalism, it's kind of like a. Yeah. Just the way, you know, they know it's going to be a hot topic. People are going to bite into it. And.

Trisha Paytas (43:46)

Yeah, there's no way this one's gonna hire this. Is she supposed to be acting with other real act, like human actors.

Moses Hacmon (43:52)

And I guess in the comedy sketch, it was an AI comedy sketch, so I got, I'm assuming other AI no characters. But yeah, also why you gotta make it a little girl? Like, that is also a little suspicious to me. Like, your. Your big AI creation is like a little girl who knows her age. She'll never age too. So that's also suspicious to me. But a lot of people have been, because I don't think an AI person Or AI Character Creation can sue for, like, defamation. So a lot of people have been spreading rumors about her.

Trisha Paytas (44:22)

Who would they sue? The creators to themselves? We're suing the people who created you.

Moses Hacmon (44:26)

People on Twitter have been saying, like, I went to high school with Tilly. She called me a slur. So there is a lot of, like, cancel, cancel Tilly.

Trisha Paytas (44:32)

Hashtag cancel Tilly.

Moses Hacmon (44:35)

Tilly Norwood is over party. She called me the hustler. And I'm pretty sure she's racist. And I'm pretty sure she also hates America, so triple homicide.

Trisha Paytas (44:46)

Tilly's over.

Moses Hacmon (44:46)

No matter what side you're on. She's offended.

Trisha Paytas (44:49)

But then she's a girl. She's a little girl, not a real girl. Right, right. Do you protect AI the same way you protect children?

Guest or Producer (44:55)

So who's the programmer? It might be a guy.

Moses Hacmon (44:57)

D. Or her creator is a guy. Yeah, yeah.

Guest or Producer (45:00)

Behind her.

Trisha Paytas (45:00)

Let's investigate that.

Moses Hacmon (45:01)

Yeah, T, that's what I'm saying.

Trisha Paytas (45:03)

What if it's just, like, someone who was, like, trying, like, what if it's like a Alison Stoner who's just trying to protect child actors and they're like, let's just create this. Because in a way, okay, I hate that it takes up, like, our electricity or whatever, but in a way, I like that it stops children from being eaten by, like, Freddy Fazbear. Right.

Moses Hacmon (45:23)

I don't know if the payoff is worth it.

Trisha Paytas (45:25)

The ones with the ones where they're like this. Where they're running with their arms like this.

Moses Hacmon (45:27)

Like weapons.

Trisha Paytas (45:28)

Yeah. Oh, I keep forgetting that one. Yeah, that one. Like, that could probably be AI.

Moses Hacmon (45:33)

I don't know if the payoff is worth it.

Trisha Paytas (45:35)

What does that mean?

Moses Hacmon (45:36)

Like, I think it's such a slippery slope that if you just replace, like, kids with AI that produce and people, they, like, trick audiences into getting used to it. Like, if you have. If you start training audiences to accept it, even, like, in smaller roles, it's just a slippery slope. Like, it can become a bigger thing, you know?

Trisha Paytas (45:52)

Do you think they put subliminal messaging into AI Bra?

Moses Hacmon (45:56)

I mean, yeah, because I was saying.

Trisha Paytas (45:58)

Like, I think I said on a tick tock, like, how Elvis. Like, weirdly, like, we'll, like, like, on YouTube sometimes, like, a YouTube shorts will come up, right? Because you do a YouTube, you're watching videos. Whatever. Shorts will come up, and it's like this AI hamster. It's only on for, like, 10 seconds. But she, like, loves it. She's, like, cackling at this hamster, and I'm like, do you think they're putting something else like that only kids can hear or something in there?

Moses Hacmon (46:19)

I wouldn't be surprised. Genuinely.

Trisha Paytas (46:20)

I'm like, oh, yeah, we try to find more. I was like, I don't know about this AI Hamster.

Moses Hacmon (46:25)

It's very weird, though. Pushing it.

Trisha Paytas (46:27)

It'.

Guest or Producer (46:29)

Yeah, it's good. Just to make it clear, like, they don't watch shorts. They watch. They have YouTube kids that we control. Because. Because people thought they're just watching shorts on their own, which never do that because kids short. Like, it gets into weird YouTube kids. There's no shorts on YouTube kids on their app.

Trisha Paytas (46:46)

Oh, where are they watching it? They.

Guest or Producer (46:47)

She saw it on my phone. I was showing her YouTube kids on my phone.

Trisha Paytas (46:51)

Oh.

Guest or Producer (46:51)

Because, you know.

Trisha Paytas (46:52)

But that was a short or no.

Guest or Producer (46:53)

So then he went to a short. Yeah, but it was on my phone. They never have it on their own. They don't want shorts. And don't let your kids watch anything like that.

Trisha Paytas (47:02)

Oh, so how'd you see the hamster on my phone? Oh, it just popped up. Or you searched it?

Guest or Producer (47:07)

Yeah, I was on my YouTube on my phone.

Trisha Paytas (47:09)

Oh, got it. Okay. Okay.

Guest or Producer (47:10)

And then it went to shorts.

Trisha Paytas (47:11)

Thanks for the clarification, people.

Guest or Producer (47:13)

No, because you'll see people post on TikTok and in Reddit about the awful things that their kids came across on shorts, and they were warning, like, don't let your kids on what?

Trisha Paytas (47:23)

On YouTube shortly.

Guest or Producer (47:24)

On YouTube. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (47:25)

So YouTube kids. But even YouTube kids, I mean, we.

Guest or Producer (47:27)

We try to block.

Trisha Paytas (47:28)

Yeah, yeah.

Guest or Producer (47:29)

You have to choose the channels and block other channels. Because even kid channels, not all of them are good. Some of them, you know, promote certain behavior that's mischievous.

Trisha Paytas (47:39)

No, we monitor that now because we're like, that one girl was a little brat on there. Well, they had her acting like one.

Guest or Producer (47:45)

This is making clear they're not like.

Trisha Paytas (47:49)

Well, they watched the AI Hamster shorts, but she was giggling. She was giggling at it.

Guest or Producer (47:53)

Yeah. And I told you, like, when I saw her reaction to it, I was like, I never showed it again. Because it was like, the way it captivated her was too, too much. Because they don't care about. They don't care about screens that much at night time. So it's really interesting. That one. I was just like, wow, there's something there.

Trisha Paytas (48:10)

Subliminal. Remember back in the day? No one remembers because it was in, like, 1964. But, like, do you like. They would say, like, the albums, like, Helter Skelter, if you played it backwards, it would be like, the Devil was talking to you. Was that. Oh, I love that. How do you know about that? That's so. The facts, you know, is crazy. Yeah. Titanic Panic. I remember reading, like, how do you know that?

Moses Hacmon (48:30)

We learned about. In history class.

Trisha Paytas (48:32)

What?

Moses Hacmon (48:33)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (48:34)

What a weird history class.

Moses Hacmon (48:36)

Well, because it pushed, like, a whole, like, anti. Because it's like a culture, like a pop cultural thing. Like, all of a sudden that became very taboo because it was like, a real fear that, like, like, rock music and dressing a certain way would, you know, bring Satan into your homes.

Guest or Producer (48:50)

So we used to.

Trisha Paytas (48:51)

Oh, you were in Catholic school, too, right?

Guest or Producer (48:53)

Yeah, we used to listen to, like, the Beatles albums. We used to play them backwards and look for things. And there was this one's like, paul is dead. Paul is dead.

Trisha Paytas (49:01)

Oh, I remember that, too. But why? Why would they put that in there? Just for a gag.

Guest or Producer (49:07)

It's like.

Trisha Paytas (49:09)

Ironically, he's the only one still alive, right?

Guest or Producer (49:12)

If it's him, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (49:14)

What is it? What do you mean?

Guest or Producer (49:16)

Oh, the whole theory that it's not him.

Trisha Paytas (49:17)

Oh, like Avril Lavigne. He was replaced with clone.

Guest or Producer (49:20)

Yep.

Trisha Paytas (49:21)

Who said that?

Moses Hacmon (49:23)

He's covering T.J. maxx conspiracies. He's not.

Trisha Paytas (49:26)

Oh, okay. Did we watch? No. Let's watch it for Patreon. Nobody asked for it. Okay. Did you see. Speaking of shame, he went to the WB tour. We saw that. But everyone's going to wbc.

Moses Hacmon (49:40)

Everyone except for us.

Trisha Paytas (49:41)

Do we. Do I feel like we started that, or is that. We might just make that up. I think we started talking because all of a sudden we saw everyone going Cal Remy's. Cal Parsons went. Shane and Rylan.

Moses Hacmon (49:53)

We gotta get our day in.

Trisha Paytas (49:54)

I do want to go, because you know what they're having right now?

Moses Hacmon (49:56)

Gilmore Girls.

Trisha Paytas (49:57)

Gilmore Girls. But everything's immersive now. So, like, if you want to go to the Gilmore Girls, like, diner and get, like, a pie, you can. Oh, Central park is having, like, real coffees. Like, you have to do it. Yeah, I think it's. I think it's immersive.

Moses Hacmon (50:10)

Oh, we have to go.

Trisha Paytas (50:12)

I am gonna plan a day, because I really think that'd be fun. I also think that's just a good. Like. What do they call when. Like, yes.

Moses Hacmon (50:18)

Yeah. Like, team building.

Trisha Paytas (50:20)

What do people do? That was right. They take, like, their office to, like, a. Do a team building project.

Moses Hacmon (50:24)

Yeah. Like.

Trisha Paytas (50:25)

Or just bonding.

Moses Hacmon (50:27)

Maybe like a retreat or something, too.

Trisha Paytas (50:29)

We're gonna go to the W. Jimmy, everybody, whoever. Whoever's on the team can come. Or if you're not on the team. I guess you can come to. Gotta figure it out. Yeah, I'm sure it's not that hard. I'm sure we can go like midday or something.

Moses Hacmon (50:40)

Yeah, I mean, just DM them, right?

Trisha Paytas (50:43)

Yeah, they do follow me. I probably should do that. That'd be so much fun. Especially now that, like, Gilmore Girls. It's like fall time. Like, it feels like the time to go see it. All right, we'll get that on there. Great conspiracy, though. I love Pomcarney. I wish you'd come on the podcast. You think? Beatles.

Moses Hacmon (51:03)

What are y' all gonna talk about?

Trisha Paytas (51:07)

You know?

Moses Hacmon (51:07)

Yep.

Trisha Paytas (51:08)

Why are you trying to be like Elvis? No, just kidding. I don't know. Just like stuff no one cares about. I don't know. He seems iconic.

Guest or Producer (51:15)

He's really nice. Met him twice.

Trisha Paytas (51:16)

Oh, okay. What? I've been married to Moses for four years now. I'm like, what do you mean?

Guest or Producer (51:23)

Okay, I met both the living. I met Rinko star a bunch of times. Times. And him a couple of times.

Trisha Paytas (51:29)

Regal star die.

Guest or Producer (51:30)

No, I'm saying the only living members.

Trisha Paytas (51:31)

Oh, I thought he said okay. I said when he was living. I was like, oh, my gosh.

Moses Hacmon (51:34)

What about Yoko Ono?

Guest or Producer (51:36)

Is he not a member?

Trisha Paytas (51:38)

No, she was married to John Lennon. That's pretty iconic.

Guest or Producer (51:46)

I appreciate her art. It sounds like dolphins, but.

Trisha Paytas (51:52)

Okay. All right. Well, that's cool. You meant both of the Beatles.

Guest or Producer (51:58)

They're really nice.

Trisha Paytas (51:59)

Do you have anything more to add to it? That's it. Okay. I would love a story time, but it was short. Okay. I love it. Is his daughter so McCartney, right? The designer?

Moses Hacmon (52:12)

Oh, ti.

Trisha Paytas (52:13)

That's pretty impressive.

Moses Hacmon (52:14)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (52:15)

Like, your dad's so famous and then you're also so talented and famous.

Moses Hacmon (52:18)

Well.

Trisha Paytas (52:23)

Probably be good, right? Like.

Moses Hacmon (52:24)

Or decent enough. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (52:26)

I feel like everyone talks with Selma McCartney. I don't know. You're right. Okay, is Taylor Swift come from famous parents or something?

Moses Hacmon (52:34)

Her dad was like a. Worked in banking or something. So like, had decent amount of like upper middle class, I guess I would say. But not like actual.

Trisha Paytas (52:42)

She's not gonna have a movie. Someone told me the other day she NFL movie.

Moses Hacmon (52:46)

No, like, I mean, he had money, like an insane amount, but yeah, pretty wealthy.

Trisha Paytas (52:53)

So random. I didn't know about dealership's dad. Oh, my gosh. You really are chronically online, I guess. Is that the term we use? Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (53:00)

Nicole Rafi is shaking because she's the Chronically online girl. That's her channel. No, it's been a thing. But like her everyone videos is. Yeah, Chronically online girl explains.

Trisha Paytas (53:12)

I see. It sounded more insulting when I said it. I was like, okay, chronically online. But I guess it's like, it's cutesy, right? Because people will say, moses is chronically online. Okay. You're not. Literally. I don't. I guess I should. I never see you online. That's why I'm always surprised. I never see you on your phone. So I'm like, where are you?

Guest or Producer (53:26)

Fasting. Absorbing information.

Trisha Paytas (53:29)

You must be, because I really never, ever see you, like, watching your phone or watching. Like, when you say you could watch a whole season of severance without me, I was like, I guess I was on tour, but there's things you watch now. And I'm like, how did you watch that without me?

Guest or Producer (53:40)

I don't know. I guess I just gotta have the hand on the pulse, see the trends as they're coming. Because it's actually hard because most of my TikTok is cooking videos, because that's all I watch and do. So it's hard to filter it and go back to the trending.

Trisha Paytas (53:55)

We were watching a Haktua something this morning. He's like, did you see this? This person, Haktua, took this girl's role. I was like, I think that's fake. I just heard him, like, someone, like, crying and screaming that Huck to took her role. And I guess it was the Glenn Powell Show.

Moses Hacmon (54:08)

Oh, and Chad Powers.

Trisha Paytas (54:10)

Yeah. Oh, did you watch it?

Moses Hacmon (54:12)

I did not know. Apologies, Jake Shane, and also Glenn Powell. I didn't see it.

Trisha Paytas (54:16)

Not even for Haktua?

Moses Hacmon (54:17)

No. Isn't she just, like, a cameo? And she says, like, I'm Hawk to a girl or something?

Trisha Paytas (54:21)

That's it. Oh, you just sent me something. But I didn't even watch it because I was like, I saw Hawk 2. And I was like, no, I just saw this.

Moses Hacmon (54:25)

It was like a screenshot of, like, her scene. And I guess I could just see what I DM'd. I don't even remember.

Trisha Paytas (54:30)

I. I open every single thing you sent me. And that one, I was like, you were?

Moses Hacmon (54:34)

Okay. That's misleading, though. Last episode you said, I. Maybe I'll see it because Hawk Tua is in it.

Trisha Paytas (54:38)

Okay, So I really don't remember anything I say. That's crazy.

Moses Hacmon (54:43)

It was like, one tweet I think is this disgusting film. Yeah, disgusting film. They posted, like, a screenshot of the scene and Glenn Powell. Glenn Powell's character goes, we got Haley Tua. And she replies, welch. Haley Welch is my full human name. But it's not like it's just the text. It's like a screen grab. It's not.

Trisha Paytas (55:01)

Oh, it wasn't a video.

Moses Hacmon (55:02)

It wasn't the video. So I can't attest to her.

Trisha Paytas (55:04)

Also, you sent to me being like, oh, you're gonna be so excited because you were excited.

Moses Hacmon (55:06)

Yeah. Like, oh, you really wanted to see him first.

Trisha Paytas (55:08)

Moods change. Moods change. By the end of an episode. I'm like, I'll say anything. I'm like, love it. Let's go. Beginning of the episode. I'm a little more fresh. End of the episode. Who knows what I said.

Moses Hacmon (55:17)

That is funny.

Trisha Paytas (55:18)

I was hungry. I was thinking about that steak. Is it. Is it a full series or is it just, like, Series?

Moses Hacmon (55:25)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (55:25)

Is it all out, you think? All the episode. You know nothing about it.

Moses Hacmon (55:27)

I know nothing about it, but usually Hulu is like a weekly drop.

Trisha Paytas (55:32)

I'm surprised you want to watch it. You're into, like, TV shows and. Doesn't appeal to you?

Moses Hacmon (55:37)

It doesn't appeal to me. It. From what I see, it's a lot of football stuff, and I think the football player is in it.

Trisha Paytas (55:46)

Shout out to Cinco.

Moses Hacmon (55:47)

And they did the premiere at such a random football player.

Trisha Paytas (55:51)

That's the only one I know.

Moses Hacmon (55:54)

And they did the premiere at, like, the Rose bowl where a football team plays. Very football themed. Themed. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (56:02)

Who plays there?

Moses Hacmon (56:03)

Couldn't tell you.

Trisha Paytas (56:05)

Sounds fake.

Moses Hacmon (56:07)

Maybe it's. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, so, no, I. I will be skipping out on.

Trisha Paytas (56:12)

You're not gonna watch it at all?

Moses Hacmon (56:13)

No.

Trisha Paytas (56:15)

Wow. I'm so shocked. I just feel like a pop culture thing. You're just gonna watch.

Moses Hacmon (56:19)

No, I am a bad TV watcher, especially with big pop culture shows. Like, I'll watch via, like, osmosis. Like, I'll just read a lot of memes and tweets and stuff. Stuff a la somewhere I turn pretty right, and I feel like I'm like, you know, I'm in the mix, but I'm not. And I've read the books somewhere. I turn pretty. So I guess I was a little bit more invested for that. Versus a Chad Powers. But, yeah, even so, I'm like, I absorb via memes. Tick tocks. And I'm good.

Trisha Paytas (56:44)

And you kind of feel like you've watched it.

Moses Hacmon (56:46)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the show is just such a time commitment, and I have a lot of YouTube and Twitch to watch. I guess I'm very. Brain worms like that, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (56:57)

And Dancing with the Stars for your job.

Moses Hacmon (56:59)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (56:59)

Not the eye roll. That was crazy. You just went against my will. Yeah. That's crazy. I like Dancing with the Stars. I like Dancing with the Stars. Fm. They're better this season than I thought that they would be, both in dance and popularity. Seems like people care.

Moses Hacmon (57:17)

The concept of Dancing with the Stars is just a little, like, corny to me. No offense. I like everyone on it. Like, I love Ezra. I love Riley. I love Whitney. See, I know. I know the dancer's name. Like, the pro.

Trisha Paytas (57:27)

Do you love Whitney?

Moses Hacmon (57:28)

Yeah, Whitney with no H. Whitney. Oh, the dancer. Yeah, yeah, the pro.

Trisha Paytas (57:33)

I thought you meant the Mormon wife. I was like, wow, that's the first time I heard that.

Moses Hacmon (57:35)

I don't know her that well, to be honest. I love. Yawn. I love all the dancers.

Trisha Paytas (57:39)

Okay, you love the dancers. That's interesting. I love that you're more into the pros than the celebrities.

Moses Hacmon (57:45)

Celebrity. Who am I? Who do I. I liked Lauren, but she just got eliminated from fifth Harmony.

Trisha Paytas (57:50)

Everyone was shocked.

Moses Hacmon (57:51)

I was shocked. That was a gag.

Trisha Paytas (57:52)

Like, why? Like, how. How is that? How did that even happen? There's just no way more people voted for Andy Richter. You know, no offense. I mean, he's, like, not a dancer. He's also not on tv, and it's just like, what? Like, I know.

Moses Hacmon (58:03)

It is crazy.

Trisha Paytas (58:03)

He also said he was just there for the paycheck. So I'm like, who is voting? I don't know if I believe it. Do you think they have to be honest or can they just be like, you know what? We're gonna shock people this week. Let's send someone.

Moses Hacmon (58:14)

Oh, like the show. No, the show can just do whatever. I think.

Trisha Paytas (58:17)

Think so. If you can call and they can be like, oh, we missed a few calls.

Moses Hacmon (58:20)

And a lot of people say that, like, the west coast doesn't even, like, have the chance to fully vote yet or something how it airs.

Trisha Paytas (58:26)

So I thought that too, because we were looking for it last night and, like, my mom is usually here till like, 7 or 7:30. And I was like, can't see. The star's not on yet. Like, it's on until 8. So that means the East coast is watching at 11 and voting. That doesn't seem like.

Moses Hacmon (58:37)

Yeah, there's like, a weird discrepancy there, but I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (58:42)

Stars well. Anyone captivate you? You do edit.

Moses Hacmon (58:48)

Captivated me. I do edit Robert Jordan, the gymnast.

Trisha Paytas (58:58)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (58:58)

I like her.

Trisha Paytas (58:59)

She's great.

Moses Hacmon (58:59)

And Robert Irwin is sweet. Sure.

Trisha Paytas (59:02)

Shirtless. It doesn't do it for you. It doesn't do it. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (59:06)

Even in doesn't really do it for me.

Trisha Paytas (59:09)

Yeah, I think he fades a little. Loved him. And Traders fades a little in this.

Moses Hacmon (59:13)

But he's really trying, and so. And he really wants it. So good for him.

Trisha Paytas (59:17)

Yeah, we love an effort, you know, Alex Earl, maybe.

Moses Hacmon (59:23)

Sure.

Trisha Paytas (59:23)

Yeah, she's great.

Moses Hacmon (59:25)

Yeah. Taking the ballroom by storm.

Trisha Paytas (59:30)

I saw an ET Tweet today. You don't do the tweets, do you?

Moses Hacmon (59:32)

No.

Trisha Paytas (59:32)

Oh, they did young Sheldon, and I was like, okay, Oscar. It's like, see Aaron Amritage today and how much he's changed.

Moses Hacmon (59:39)

I like, he does look very different. We love young Sheldon.

Trisha Paytas (59:42)

It's the exact same. I was like, okay, let me play. He still has short hair combed back. Like, what? Like, it'd be different. He had, like, long hair and he's, like, grungy or something. Who has a beard.

Moses Hacmon (59:51)

But he looks like a man Sheldon now.

Trisha Paytas (59:54)

I guess he still looks like a young boy to me. I was like, this looks like. They're like, he's changed so much. And you know what? They got me. I clicked on it. I watched that video with the ads. I was like, all right, they do put a lot of ads on those. But I watched it, and then I was a little disappointed. Lack of transformation.

Moses Hacmon (60:11)

Oh, another show. Okay. Catfish was canceled. This was like, a week or so ago, which is crazy.

Trisha Paytas (60:16)

That was still on.

Moses Hacmon (60:17)

Like, I know. Started in 2012, which is insane. And I remember it when the documentary Catfish came out, and I thought it was, like, a crime.

Trisha Paytas (60:25)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (60:25)

I don't know. The way that I remember that trailer was edited. It was like they murdered the catfish. Murdered someone.

Trisha Paytas (60:30)

That's what I thought, too. And I was so scared to watch it. Yes, me, too.

Moses Hacmon (60:33)

It was. I remember being, like. Almost like a Blair Witch Project, right? Like vhat? Like a camcorder vibe. I remember being so scared by it, and the show was, like, kind of camp, weirdly.

Trisha Paytas (60:43)

No, I know. It was like nothing. It was just like an old lady that catfished it. I was like, okay, that was it. I was like, that was anticlimactic.

Moses Hacmon (60:50)

But, yeah, it's been on for a long time. But it just got me thinking. I know you. You were catfished once, but was that the only time you were catfished? I feel like, for some reason, you would have fallen for a catfish back in the day.

Trisha Paytas (61:00)

Yeah, for sure. I. Yeah. No, I feel like I talked about it. I think I've been catfished more than once sometimes. You don't know I've been catfished. I don't even know if it's catfished, like, sometimes you're on dating apps and they just disappear or, like, ghost you, and you're like, are you a real person? Like, was it. Is it the Post Malone catfish or what Catfish. I tell what story?

Moses Hacmon (61:19)

Some rocker.

Trisha Paytas (61:21)

Oh, Ronnie Ratke.

Moses Hacmon (61:22)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (61:24)

I'm scared to say his name. We talked about him once, and then he, like, did, like, a TikTok, and he was, like, mad at me and all. I was like, no, I was catfish. Like, I wasn't saying you did anything wrong. I, like, was. Was so scared. Moses told me, and I was terrified. I got really scared. So. Sorry. What if it was actually him and he's just pissed I'm telling the story? No, the whole thing was. I don't think it was you. Because he's like, she was not at my show. I'm like, oh, was that actually your show? Because I was there. I was like, I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, I definitely. I've definitely, like, thought I was, like, talking to celebrities. I definitely was a catfish by Quentin Tarantino back in the day. Like, there was so many Quentin Tarantino profiles on MySpace that I was talking to. Oh, that was definitely not him. Literally. I just remember them being, like, asking me for feet pictures. I'm like, that seems normal. I know he likes feet. And then I was like, I talked to so many different ones, too, because they would, like, the catfish profile would be deleted, and then another one would pop up, like, oh, this is my new one. And I was like, okay. And that would be deleted. It's just like, whatever. So I got catfished by him a few times. Yeah. Mostly just celebrities.

Moses Hacmon (62:23)

I was thinking, too. Like, there was part of me when it got canceled, I was like, well, isn't it, like. Like, easier to tell if you're getting catfished in 2025? But then I was like, maybe with, like, AI, like, oh, it gets worse. That would make it harder. So I feel like catfish could end up having, like, a resurgence if, like, you know, the Tilly Norwards of the world, like, take off. Right.

Trisha Paytas (62:43)

That is actually so true. And. And even just catfishing, like, AI using my voice, you know?

Moses Hacmon (62:48)

True. I didn't think about that.

Trisha Paytas (62:50)

Yeah. Like, when people, like, put songs of me singing something, and it's like, like. But it's not. It's like the AI Me just be seeing, like, somewhere over the rainbow or something, and it's like, wow, that's so crazy. You can have me say anything or do anything.

Moses Hacmon (63:01)

Yeah, that is really scary.

Trisha Paytas (63:02)

I get tricked by those I think there's, like, on Tik Tok, it'll be like Joe Rogan says, and it shows clips of, like, Joe Rogan's podcast, and it sounds like Joe Rogan talking over it, but it's not actually syncing up with what he's saying.

Guest or Producer (63:13)

When you look at him, he's actually. Yeah, they do a lot of those.

Trisha Paytas (63:16)

And so I'm like, oh, wow, is this, like, something he actually said? And then it's like, something that. That someone just AI.

Moses Hacmon (63:20)

I see a lot of. They'll use, like, AI of celebrities. Like, hey, it's me, Selena Gomez. You want to win, like, pants, pots and pans? And, like, they AI her voice.

Trisha Paytas (63:30)

Charlie at CX Hair. Due to a packaging error, we can't sell 3,000 lookwear sets, so I'm giving them away to my royal fans for free.

Moses Hacmon (63:38)

And they, again, kind of looks like she's talking, but, like, it doesn't sync up, but they make it. So you enter, like, a fraud giveaway to win some pots and pans or whatever.

Trisha Paytas (63:46)

That is crazy. Yeah. Like, how much can you, like, see of that? Like, how much of her team can see it and take legal. Like, those things come and go. They delete themselves. Like, it is really scary. And. Yeah, you said it's a whole. You're right. There is gonna be. What if we're the new catfish? We're the new Nevin. Max. That would be everything. Go around with a little camera. Oh, my God.

Moses Hacmon (64:05)

Actually, we would be so good at that.

Trisha Paytas (64:06)

Yeah, we're kind of investigating.

Moses Hacmon (64:09)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (64:09)

And we. I've been catfished. I'm the neve. I've been catfished. I have experience. And that would be. Yeah, we would be able to. Your research. You're so good at, like, zooming in on things. You're always like, look, let me see what they were.

Moses Hacmon (64:21)

Yeah. See where they were that day. Like, the actual person, you know? Yeah. Tea. We would eat that up.

Trisha Paytas (64:27)

They were always flying in coach.

Moses Hacmon (64:31)

Neva and Max. Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (64:34)

What? No, Max, like, left the show and it was replaced by.

Moses Hacmon (64:37)

Oh, Cammie. Cammie Crawford. Yes.

Trisha Paytas (64:39)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they, like, replaced her. Her. But it was weird because they were saying how much they traveled and how they were always singing, like, little Hiltons and stuff like that. And I was like, for such a big show, you think they'd give him a budge?

Moses Hacmon (64:49)

Maybe it wasn't as that big.

Trisha Paytas (64:51)

I thought it was, like, the biggest show for a while. I just remember even I watched it.

Moses Hacmon (64:54)

I watched not maybe that, like, in the you know, the days where it was like, I don't know, Instagram wasn't as new. And you know that's true. Right.

Guest or Producer (65:04)

But you're right, it was his choice probably to save that, like. Like to pocket that money in flying coach.

Trisha Paytas (65:10)

That's true. If I do another tour, I'd fly coach, actually. I want to think about that because you're like, the whole point is, like, you know, obviously meet people, but also, like, if you want to make some money on the tour, you're like, yeah, keep expenses down. Yeah, you might be right. I'm not. But I do love a Hilton, so I don't know why I just said that, because I. They have the cookies. Oh, no, it's Doubletree that has the cookies. The chocolate chip. Oh, very good. Love a double tree. Yeah, you're right. Now that I can fit into economy, I'm just sorry I had to fly first class last time because my belly was so huge. They really should make those chairs bigger. I will give credit to Southwest for having bigger seats than they used to. Those seats were pretty roomy and I was pretty wide. I was about £260 at 5 foot 3 fitting into those seats. So we. We love to see. They should just make a little bit bigger seats because nowadays everyone's just a little bigger. And I think the world needs to accommodate for that, you know, because people are just big. Average size 16 and more, you know.

Moses Hacmon (66:00)

And make those seatbelts longer.

Trisha Paytas (66:02)

Oh, yeah. I always had to ask for the extension. I used to take them off with me on the plane and I, like, unintentionally. And I was like, ah. I had stolen so many of those seatbelt extenders, and I was supposed to.

Moses Hacmon (66:10)

Come out with their own line.

Guest or Producer (66:11)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (66:13)

Oh, maybe like, yes, subliminally, as, like. Or subconsciously. I was taking them for prototypes. They were great. They were. It is crazy when you put those on, you're like, wow, that's so much nicer. They should do that for car seats, too. I guess. They stretch in car, but still they're tight. Do you have the. Do you have a car that, like, tightens your seatbelt for you?

Moses Hacmon (66:32)

I don't. No.

Trisha Paytas (66:32)

No, mine does that. Mine's like. Tightens me back sometimes. I'm like, oh, why does it do that? It's like, we need you as tight as possible in here, I guess.

Moses Hacmon (66:40)

Is it good for your posture? Does it keep you strapped? I don't know.

Guest or Producer (66:44)

It's like, you know, babies. The car scenes for the babies, we do that.

Trisha Paytas (66:48)

That's It.

Guest or Producer (66:49)

We do it.

Trisha Paytas (66:50)

Oh.

Guest or Producer (66:50)

Because we loosen it. We put them close it.

Trisha Paytas (66:53)

Oh, the straps. Yeah, yeah. Their seat like. Yeah, that pulls them back a little bit. I don't know. I do pilates. I feel like it's good for my. My posture. She always says she always like, she likes shoulders. Like roll your shoulders back. And then she does lift from your ponytail as high as you can have your ponytail touch the ceiling. And then she's like. And then put your. Your. She puts your head back. So instead of like judging out, put your head back and pull it up from your ponytail so highly. Touch the ceiling. Get taller, get taller. Shoulder blades down, stretch. Hit the top of the ceiling. Push your belly button in. Push your belly button to the back. Push it all the way to the back so it can hit that seat. Does it feel taller?

Moses Hacmon (67:28)

I think so.

Trisha Paytas (67:29)

It feels like better posture, right?

Moses Hacmon (67:30)

It does, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (67:31)

Every time I do it, every time I walk out. That's why I had my bodysuit on yesterday too. Every time I walked out, I just felt so postured. And she's always like, just pull. Sometimes she physically pulls my ponytail. She pulls the ceiling. And I was like, wow. This shoulders back, you just feel very long. And then you like look to the side without moving and pulling up. Pulling up with your ponytail to the as high as the ceiling. Go to the side and go to the front.

Moses Hacmon (67:51)

I love that.

Trisha Paytas (67:51)

Yeah. She wantes with me. It's so fun.

Moses Hacmon (67:54)

I'm down. I really want to do Pilates at some point.

Trisha Paytas (67:57)

It'd be fun. I took Moses once with me. I love to gam one went to Tana. It's just like fun. Cuz it's like, you know, it's kind of like just like a relaxed like it is a workout. Even Irma who's like lifts weights. She's like, I did a Pilates class. Like she's like a bodybuilder. She's just like always in the gym. She's like doing Pilates was like hard for her. She. It's just like a different muscle group and like how you work the muscles and the coordination. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that part. She has me doing so many things. Like hips down, push your knees to the mirror, hands up, reach through your fingertips, scrape the mirrors, ponytail up, belly button back. I'm like, there's so much happening. Breathe through your chest. I was like, it really does take focus, which is good because I don't think about anything else. It's kind of like meditation. It's like this is the only thing you can Think about right now. So you kind of feel.

Moses Hacmon (68:37)

Yeah, it's really.

Trisha Paytas (68:39)

I really recommend it for people. For anyone, really. It's really great. But I was gonna say it's like a non. Is intensive, the word where you don't feel like you're not like. Like, I need water. It's more just like you're kind of, like, laying down, just, like, working your muscles.

Moses Hacmon (68:53)

Yeah, I love it.

Trisha Paytas (68:55)

It's the best kind for me because I think if I had to, like, work out and just do so many reps. You also only do, like, three reps at a time. It's, like, so nice. Just really slow and really wonderful. It's kind of my thing now.

Moses Hacmon (69:03)

Are we doing a fitness test today?

Trisha Paytas (69:06)

Oh, are we? Do we have anything for it? I kind of forgot about that. I had the CVS in my mind. But we. We can. Did we get jump ropes or anything? No. No. Okay, I'll do it for next time. For real, because what else were we gonna do? Jump rope.

Moses Hacmon (69:20)

Running up the hill.

Trisha Paytas (69:21)

Running up the hill, which I don't think we have.

Moses Hacmon (69:23)

Clear the brush. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (69:27)

Yeah. The basketball. We're gonna try basketball and a plank. Okay. Yeah, those are. We can do. Okay. Yeah, we can do it next time, I think. Or you want to do it this time?

Moses Hacmon (69:35)

We can do it. We have to go get the jump ropes and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (69:38)

I was gonna say. I guess we go. Yeah. I was thinking CVS today.

Moses Hacmon (69:41)

Yeah, we can do CVS.

Trisha Paytas (69:42)

Like, I think we should vlog and CV for our Patreon. Patreon.com gestures. Should we talk about Patreon at the beginning?

Moses Hacmon (69:46)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (69:47)

Did I share the URL or did I just say the headshot?

Moses Hacmon (69:49)

I think you just said the headshot, but Jimmy.

Trisha Paytas (69:53)

Yeah, Cut it. I mean, put it in there. Yeah. Maybe do like a shopping vlog and then show each other a vlog.

Moses Hacmon (70:00)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (70:01)

Or if you have something other ideas, let me know. Yes, I do. Want to do the fitness test. Yeah. Get a basketball on a jump rope and clear the brush. Maybe that could be a chat. That could be a Patreon video. Cleaning the brush, clearing it out.

Guest or Producer (70:19)

I'll get you guys to work.

Trisha Paytas (70:21)

Could you imagine? Have you ever cleared brush?

Moses Hacmon (70:25)

I mean, no, because I don't. I don't have. Have brush to clear.

Trisha Paytas (70:28)

Brush. You never had brush to clear. Really? You never. Like, as a kid, I always had a. My. The chore. We never had chores, but. But, like, I guess I would just do it. I guess it'd be nice. I'm not sure. Shoveling the driveway and scraping off the ice on your windshield before going to school in the morning.

Moses Hacmon (70:44)

Oh, it doesn't snow here, so I never had to do that.

Trisha Paytas (70:46)

But did you have anything equivalent like leaves breaking?

Moses Hacmon (70:51)

We don't have that many leaves either. I don't know if we have a tree.

Trisha Paytas (70:55)

Yeah, you have a tree in your yard.

Moses Hacmon (70:57)

I think we have a tree. I don't think we have a tree. Literally. Yeah, I don't think we have a tree.

Trisha Paytas (71:02)

I've never seen a house without a tree. We have like the smallest house in Pecatonic, Illinois, and there's like three trees.

Moses Hacmon (71:09)

I don't think we have a tree. There is a tree in our backyard, but it's technically our neighbor's tree that is just so big that it goes into our yard, but.

Trisha Paytas (71:18)

And it never dropped anything. Some nuts or some figs. My mom has a fig tree and she always brings figs over for Moses, so I know I don't have anything like that.

Moses Hacmon (71:26)

I don't think so.

Trisha Paytas (71:27)

What about dogs? Do you have to take care of your dogs growing up?

Moses Hacmon (71:29)

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (71:30)

Like, what would your chore be?

Moses Hacmon (71:32)

Taking them out, like just on a walk or. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (71:35)

And you had to do that? You wanted to or you had to?

Moses Hacmon (71:37)

I wanted to.

Trisha Paytas (71:39)

They were your dogs?

Moses Hacmon (71:40)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (71:42)

How many?

Moses Hacmon (71:44)

Three or four, probably.

Trisha Paytas (71:45)

Shane Dawson with three or four dogs. And are that your parents now?

Moses Hacmon (71:51)

I have dogs at my parents now. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (71:52)

It's also very shame coated. I remember his mom would have like five dogs and he's like, oh, these are mine. I was like, well, why does your mom have them?

Moses Hacmon (72:00)

Well, I can't have three golden retrievers in a one bedroom apartment.

Trisha Paytas (72:03)

You can't?

Moses Hacmon (72:04)

I don't think so.

Trisha Paytas (72:05)

They won't let you or you don't want to, I mean, or you don't think it's good for them?

Moses Hacmon (72:08)

Both. All the above. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (72:10)

Okay. I'm just trying to figure it out. No judgment. Do what you want. Even kids. I never judge people too that give, you know, that like their, their parents take care of their kids. You know, it's hard. Like I always say without was like, if I would have kids with anyone else, like, I really do feel like, yeah, my mom would have to be helping me raise the kids like full time. Like, I don't, I don't judge any of that. So if you want to have your dogs with your parents, anyone can do that. I wasn't judging. I hope that didn't come. I was judgy. Just like kids. If you think they're better off being Raised by your parents. That's a good decision. Give them to whoever is. Whoever has the bigger yard, I guess. Right? For the golden retrievers, I'm talking about.

Moses Hacmon (72:41)

Or the kids.

Trisha Paytas (72:42)

Or the kids. Yeah. No, it's fine. No, I know some people, like, oh, my grandparents raised me and it's like, yeah, that's what's best. If you can't take care of them, that's what you gotta do.

Moses Hacmon (72:50)

Have you been following the Cardi B and Nicki Minaj drama on Twitter?

Guest or Producer (72:54)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (72:55)

No, of course.

Trisha Paytas (72:58)

It just happened last night.

Moses Hacmon (73:00)

Two days ago. Oh, I've been. I am remaining neutral.

Trisha Paytas (73:07)

I'm like, neutral 100.

Moses Hacmon (73:08)

Although this is where it gets difficult inter Stan relationships because Darian is a barb and he has been, like, following, like, the other day I was, like, looking up, like, Taylor. It was like, two nights ago, I was like. I was staying up late, like, looking up the Taylor theories and stuff, because I saw a lyric on Twitter that I thought was fake that people were saying were real, which was a crazy lyric. I guess I'll just say it anyway because I don't know if it's real or not, but it was about, like, try. It was for her song called Wood. It was like Travis Kelsey. It was like, his manhood takes me to new heights.

Trisha Paytas (73:38)

What?

Moses Hacmon (73:38)

Unlock the key between my thighs.

Trisha Paytas (73:41)

What? That's not real. That's not real.

Moses Hacmon (73:43)

It might very well be real.

Trisha Paytas (73:44)

Oh, because the songs aren't out yet. Is that the whole thing?

Moses Hacmon (73:47)

Yeah. Like, people have just been, like, saying the lyrics have. Have leaks. So I saw a tweet and it, like, baited me. I think it was like a hater tweet, but I didn't know it was hater tweet. And, like, said the lyric lyrics and then was like, I can't believe she wrote this. And I was like, wait, is that real? So then I kind of was like, I was trying to look up and see, like, what people are saying. So anyway, all that.

Trisha Paytas (74:07)

Would you be here for it? In a sexual era of Taylor Swift.

Moses Hacmon (74:10)

She has been kind of sexual before. It's like the production makes a big. At first I was like, oh, my God, girl. What it was, it was giving very Tati Westbrook. Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (74:21)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I felt.

Moses Hacmon (74:23)

I was like, like, and you did it at my birthday dinner. I was really giving Tati Westbrook at first, like, pro clutch. And I was like, honestly, it actually could be tea. Because, like, if the production is very poppy, like, Sabrina Carpenter esque, and if my sister Is getting that D. Oh, yeah, that was the other thing. One of the words was get. He ties me. And I was like, kind of gagged, but I'm like, if my sister is getting it good, then honestly, good for her.

Trisha Paytas (74:48)

I don't think it's real. I think that's. What are you leaning towards? I think that's not real. I love it for her, but.

Moses Hacmon (74:51)

But no, I'm leaning to. At first I was like, no way. And now I'm leaning to real because the song is called Wood, so it does make sense. And then people are getting crazy with it though, because the length of the song is 2 minutes and 30 seconds or something. And then people are like, oh, it's track number nine. And it's 2 minutes and 30 seconds, which is in 23 centimeters is 9 inches. So then people are like, is Travis Kelsey just hung like a horse? I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (75:17)

Oh my God. Y' all need to. So that's what I was dealing with. Everyone needs to chill on that. That's so insane. Also, what is like something you give someone for their one year anniversaries or to however long they've been together? Maybe it's like an anniversary.

Moses Hacmon (75:29)

Anniversary thing.

Trisha Paytas (75:30)

Yeah, people are extra.

Moses Hacmon (75:32)

But if it's real, I mean, we'll find out tonight when this airs. But yeah, I was like, I had to go through like that whole like, cycle, like, is it real? Then coming to terms with it. I'm like, you know what? This could eat. So anyway, and as I was doing that, Darian was like scrolling back and forth between like Nikki's tweets and Cardi's tweets and he has like notifications on for Nikki's tweets. And he was trying to tell me things and I'm like, I'm really trying to like lock in Swift. I'm reporting for Swifty duty right now. So anyway, it was a big. Yeah, it was a big conflama. But a true testament to relationship is the interstand dynamics.

Trisha Paytas (76:05)

Good thing we don't have that. There's nothing that we're competing with or telling each other. I'm a Stan, but I guess I get that, like, I'm a big, like mcr, but I never like, give him updates on what's happening all the time. Because I'm like, I don't think.

Moses Hacmon (76:20)

Yeah, I come to terms with like whenever a big Taylor thing happens, I just like, you know, I lock in, process it and then, you know, return when I'm emotionally ready. That's why I'm excited because I was going to see the Taylor movie with Darian at first. Not by his choice. So.

Trisha Paytas (76:35)

Now.

Moses Hacmon (76:36)

Yeah, now, you know, with Cutie. My.

Trisha Paytas (76:38)

This is a nice release so far. Yeah. The bonding.

Moses Hacmon (76:42)

But in our first fight, like, our. Me and Darian's first, like, real fight was like. Like, when Taylor announced, like, Folklore, it was like, a big surprise, and she hadn't done anything in a while, and he was visiting that July, and then I. I woke him up and was like, taylor's releasing album tonight. And he's like, you couldn't have waited till I woke up? And I remember.

Trisha Paytas (77:00)

I know. Oh, my.

Moses Hacmon (77:01)

He is very cranky when it comes to his beauty sleep. So that was our first fight, like, as.

Trisha Paytas (77:05)

Oh, you woke him up.

Moses Hacmon (77:06)

Yeah. To announce this news because it was so big. She hasn't released anything in a while. I'm a huge. I miss, you know, Swifty through and through.

Trisha Paytas (77:12)

Wow. You were that excited. I don't think there's anything that exciting for one to wake most is up for, like, wake up. God, what would it be? Nothing. I don't even know. Like, literally nothing. I'll be up in, like, 20 minutes. Okay. I love that, though. I love that you're excited about that.

Moses Hacmon (77:25)

Yeah. But so ever since then, I've learned to kind of curb it a little bit. And same with him with, like, the bar. I always, like, I'm present excited when he's excited about a Nikki thing, but. And he was like, are you going to talk about this on the podcast? And I was like, I think we're just going to remain neutral. Like, peace and love to everybody. Like, like, you know, team everyone. We love and support all the. All the girls. He's like, no, you can't be neutral. But I am gonna remain neutral.

Trisha Paytas (77:47)

Honestly, even being neutral pisses people off when it comes to this. This is, like, worse than being. If you're Republican, conservative. Like, it really is worse.

Moses Hacmon (77:55)

That is so funny, because I was thinking the same thing. I am more afraid of, like, barbs than I am. Like.

Trisha Paytas (78:03)

Actually. It's so true. And even remaining neutral, you're just like, like, well, because if we say one thing well, you know, Cardi seems to be doing her own thing and her only. Well, actually, this part.

Moses Hacmon (78:13)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (78:13)

Like. Well, Nikki's a mom, you know, it's just like, there's just no defending both.

Moses Hacmon (78:18)

I know.

Trisha Paytas (78:18)

Or liking both or not liking both. So I'm have to be neutral. I wish. Can you be a fan of both? I feel like I'm a fan of Both.

Moses Hacmon (78:24)

Me too. That's what I feel like.

Trisha Paytas (78:26)

I like.

Moses Hacmon (78:26)

And then I know Ice Spice was getting in on it too. I like, I. I like everyone who was like weighing in on it, you.

Trisha Paytas (78:31)

Know, Was I on it? Someone tweeted me, but I don't know if it was a joke. Let me see. Someone's like, Trisha's in the middle of this. That's all I saw. You didn't see, I swear. And I was like, what is even happening? And I couldn't fully grasp. And also, like, mentally I couldn't handle this. Let me see.

Moses Hacmon (78:45)

I saw a graphic that like listed the two sides. And then Doja Cat was in the middle, like hanging on her. On her parachute from her album cover, which is tea. But because I love the Doja album, honestly, Doja is kind of the vibe because they were like, Cardi and Nikki were tweeting back and forth and then Doja was tweeting, do not try to fit your boob in your man's. And I kind of was like loving that mentality.

Trisha Paytas (79:08)

What does that mean?

Moses Hacmon (79:08)

No idea. I love that. That's the. That's her discourse that was going on literally at the same time as like Nikki and Cardi going back.

Trisha Paytas (79:16)

I might regret asking this. Who started it?

Moses Hacmon (79:20)

I honestly couldn't really. It's. It's just like eight years in the making and it's just been a back and forth.

Trisha Paytas (79:25)

But they did a song together.

Moses Hacmon (79:27)

Oh, yeah. Motorsport.

Trisha Paytas (79:28)

Yeah. And then someone at Glamsdale was telling me like, oh, they were like, like forced to do that. Or they were like recorded at different times doing it. Seemed like they did the same song.

Moses Hacmon (79:36)

Yeah. And then they've been like back and forth ever since. I have the Darien telling of the story, which I'm. I don't know, cuz I would also ask him, but like, who said I would ask him? The source. That big source. Question mark. And Darian would give me. He would be like, well, crickets. So not a journalist.

Trisha Paytas (79:52)

Not a journalist.

Moses Hacmon (79:53)

So it was hard to fact check him.

Trisha Paytas (79:55)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (79:57)

So I have no idea. And I'm choosing Peace. I am.

Trisha Paytas (80:01)

They're both talented, literally. And they're both moms. Like, you know, I feel like they're both just.

Moses Hacmon (80:06)

I know. I refuse to try.

Trisha Paytas (80:08)

And they're involved, but they're sexy, they're both hot.

Moses Hacmon (80:11)

And the Swifties, under all the tweets were promoting the life of a showgirl. And then Nikki had to turn off her replies because the Swifties kept like promoting life of a showgirl under all the tweets, but then they switched to Cardi's, and they've been promoting it under Cardi's, so.

Trisha Paytas (80:24)

And she's allowing it, so I think.

Moses Hacmon (80:25)

So as of right now. So that's kind of the world I'm living is just life of a show girl.

Trisha Paytas (80:31)

I mean, I guess that's good. Nothing else is dropping besides Victoria Justice's.

Moses Hacmon (80:34)

Album you'll be streaming. I think it's called Vampire Love Vampire.

Trisha Paytas (80:38)

Streaming October 3rd. I'll stream all of it. Yes, yes. I'll listen to Life Show Girls. I really listen to your music. I did listen to Hardee's, and I listened to Doge's new album, but I. I haven't listened to any new music besides that.

Moses Hacmon (80:50)

I. Yeah, I love Doja. Casting album is really good. I love it.

Trisha Paytas (80:53)

I love her, too. Maybe she'll come on the podcast.

Moses Hacmon (80:55)

She's pretty close, right? She's in the area.

Trisha Paytas (80:58)

In the vicinity. Yeah. See her down the street at Hair 1.

Moses Hacmon (81:02)

You see her at Sugar Fish Next.

Trisha Paytas (81:04)

Oh, my gosh, what a gag.

Moses Hacmon (81:06)

I was trying to think who else I've been listening to. I. Honestly, Sabrina. Sabrina's album really grew on me, to be honest.

Trisha Paytas (81:12)

Oh, she was on Dancing with the Stars, as you predicted, doing a little video.

Moses Hacmon (81:16)

She was going to do a video message.

Trisha Paytas (81:17)

That's so cool. Fun. Did we say that here on Patreon?

Moses Hacmon (81:19)

I think Patreon.

Trisha Paytas (81:20)

And I was like, oh, probably they're hoping Sabrina comes. Like, she'll probably do, like, a video or something.

Moses Hacmon (81:23)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (81:24)

And lo and behold, she, like, heard you're dancing to Man Child.

Moses Hacmon (81:26)

See, I knew. I'm like, there's no way she's gonna go in the ballroom, but I know she'll record, like, a little.

Trisha Paytas (81:30)

That's crazy. And no word from Zac Efron as of yet. Isn't that crazy? Like, what do you mean? Your brother's on it. Like, give a little video.

Moses Hacmon (81:39)

That's pretty. Oh, Zara Larson's album. I love. And, oh, yeah, know this girly is. No, no, man. Not a man to be seen, but a little bit. A little somber here and there. But mostly girls love that. Yeah. Oh, I just saw Addison's. Ray. Addison. Ray's album in. You know, she's in the new Netflix show.

Trisha Paytas (82:01)

The.

Moses Hacmon (82:01)

The Ryan Murphy American Hor Story.

Guest or Producer (82:03)

No.

Moses Hacmon (82:03)

Monster. The Ed Gaines Story.

Trisha Paytas (82:06)

No.

Moses Hacmon (82:07)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (82:08)

Who's she playing?

Moses Hacmon (82:08)

A victim.

Trisha Paytas (82:10)

She's so everything.

Moses Hacmon (82:11)

She's so good at that. She's so good at the emotional.

Trisha Paytas (82:14)

She sent me a DM that's breaking News.

Moses Hacmon (82:17)

Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (82:18)

That's amazing. I didn't know I should say it or not because I was like. So I showed Moses. As soon as she DM me, I was like, oh, my God, Shake. Want to come to a show in la? And I was like.

Guest or Producer (82:25)

Woke me up in the middle of the night.

Trisha Paytas (82:27)

It was. It was. Where were we? We were somewhere where I was like, we're driving.

Guest or Producer (82:31)

I was driving.

Trisha Paytas (82:31)

I was like, addison Ray just DM'd me. And I was like, like, yeah. Like, oh, my God. She's like, I have three. I was like, oh. Like, which one do you want me to come to, though? Like, I don't know. Yeah, there. She's playing two at will. Turn the wheel. Turn. And the other one is at the Greek. And it's. There's Sunday, Monday and Wednesday of October. It's like, I know The Wednesday is October 22nd, so I think it's October 20th and October 19th. Oh, my God. I was like. But then I. I didn't. I was like, yes, I'd love to. And she was. I have three. But then I'm like, okay. But she means, like, should I go buy tickets or think she's saying, I don't want to, like, just tell her, like, okay, girl, put me on your list. Or you think there's just like a broad list of people like that? She also. It's crazy. She asked me because I. I never asked anyone because I thought, well, I don't know, but I guess maybe she asked everybody in one hand thinking, like, wow, I got invited. I never invited anyone to my shows because I just think no one wants to come. Or is it the other hand where she's just like, I'm going to justify everyone. I follow because it's like, I want a key at my party, inviting, like.

Moses Hacmon (83:30)

People that she knows likes her and, like, that she's oomphies with. I would think that's pretty mage.

Trisha Paytas (83:38)

Yes. I'm gonna go to an Addison show. I think I hope can find a babysitter if I can make it work. But I love her. I love her so much. I was like, so good. And then. Yeah, I was. I was telling you I thought it was American Horse store, but it's American.

Moses Hacmon (83:50)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (83:51)

Monster. I know. And I was telling. We were just talking about the other day too, how she really just like, transcended like, like tick. Like, she's not a social media person anymore. She's just like mainstream actress here, like, putting on shows, production. You think she's gonna open for Ariana Next year, someone had said that that.

Moses Hacmon (84:08)

Would be a good. That would be a gag. That would make the tickets even more valuable than they already are.

Trisha Paytas (84:13)

Completely already.

Moses Hacmon (84:14)

Yeah. It was like a war to get those Ariana tickets. And then now if Addison's. The opener that would be seeking is gonna be on fire.

Trisha Paytas (84:22)

Literally 10% off codes right now. Yeah, because like, like, she. I guess when her tickets went on sale for this tour, like, there was like 100 people in the.

Moses Hacmon (84:31)

And the venues were pretty small for like. Yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (84:34)

Even the Greek is small for 100, 000 people waiting. It's only like 6, 000 people. So she could have probably played Hollywood Bowl. I mean, guess it's your first tour. I guess you should start small. But I would imagine Ariana's doing arenas.

Moses Hacmon (84:45)

She is doing arenas. Yeah. So she easily could have done stadium, right? Easily.

Trisha Paytas (84:51)

It's like Lady Gaga exactly. Like smaller, I think.

Moses Hacmon (84:53)

I think it's probably, like, better. Especially. Ariana didn't even want it to be a big tour to start with. She was supposed to be like a little thing to make the fans happy. And then it became not so little.

Trisha Paytas (85:02)

Yeah, I like. I personally, like. I like. My romance is playing Hollywood bowl this time around, which is significantly smaller than Dodger Stadium. They're doing multiple nights, of course, but I personally like that because the idea of going to like, Dodger Stadium seems very overwhelming.

Moses Hacmon (85:16)

Stadiums are really. And physically. Because there's a lot of walking to.

Trisha Paytas (85:20)

That part because I was thinking, like, I was obviously, I'm one week postpartum. I thought, oh, my God, all the bleeding and stuff that's coming out. So I think, like, yeah, Hollywood bowl, it's just like a little bit. It's very big. Obviously, still like 18, but I like better too. You can see the artist more from all angles. It feels better. Stadiums are a flex, for sure, like the, you know, ERAS tour or whatever. But it's just like, as a fan, I'd rather go see a little arena. If Addison Ariana did that be everything. But I would love to see. I would love to see Addison's show. Solo shows, three in la. That's pretty cool. Big. She's just really. She's just really cool. She's almost like too cool of a girl. Or I'm like, I don't know. That's why I just stopped DMing. I'm like, well, maybe let's go buy tickets or something. I don't know. I don't want to be like, hey. And then, you know, just, no, you.

Moses Hacmon (86:00)

Have you have to seize the moment.

Trisha Paytas (86:03)

Yeah, you're right.

Moses Hacmon (86:04)

Okay, that's mage. Yeah. You can't let that moment pass you by. Why not take a crazy chance?

Trisha Paytas (86:10)

Oh, why not do a crazy dance? I know you can get a VIP package. I thought about this too. Her VIP package. Literally. We talked about this before. I wore was, like, sound baths, and it's called, like, the transcending package. Yes. And it's like, just sound baths and just all, like, vibe together. I'm like, I want to do that so bad. Maybe I'll get a VIP package. We'll see once they're sold out, but. Yeah, I love her. Why did we bring her up? Just.

Moses Hacmon (86:34)

I think. I have no idea. I just. I think I just saw the trailer with her in it. I was like, oh, scene stealer.

Trisha Paytas (86:41)

Yeah. Yeah. No, she does. She really does. She is. She's a good actress. Okay. She's Final Girl. She's Horror Girl because she did Thanksgiving, and now she did this.

Moses Hacmon (86:47)

True. Not Final Girl in either one, but Death scene. Final Girl is the girl who lives at the end.

Trisha Paytas (86:53)

Oh, the opposite of Final Girl.

Moses Hacmon (86:55)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (86:55)

She's Dead Girl in those movies.

Moses Hacmon (86:58)

Yeah. Not first, but. Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:00)

She makes it kind of far.

Moses Hacmon (87:01)

Yeah. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:02)

She dies in Thanksgiving.

Moses Hacmon (87:05)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:06)

Why did. I thought. No, I thought someone's like, oh, she's coming back for the sequel or something.

Moses Hacmon (87:09)

Oh, maybe you're right.

Trisha Paytas (87:10)

I don't know. I didn't see it. I still need to see.

Moses Hacmon (87:12)

Maybe I remember a chase scene with her in the school.

Trisha Paytas (87:15)

Ooh, I love a chase scene.

Moses Hacmon (87:16)

Maybe she lived. Maybe she lived. I thought she died. I don't know. But this one, she's de. They show her getting murdered in the freaking trailer.

Trisha Paytas (87:23)

So I'm like, oh, my God. Little too graphic.

Moses Hacmon (87:26)

This one's intense. Yeah, this monster is intense.

Trisha Paytas (87:28)

Who's. Who's at Gaines.

Moses Hacmon (87:29)

He is a serial killer from Plains Field. I forgot what state that's in.

Trisha Paytas (87:38)

New Jersey.

Moses Hacmon (87:39)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:39)

Who is it? I just guessed North Dakota somewhere around. Okay, New Jersey sounds right.

Moses Hacmon (87:45)

Illinois.

Trisha Paytas (87:47)

Oh, I'm from Illinois. I never heard of Plainsville. Edgar. Oh, is he the. No, he's not the one that dressed like a clown.

Moses Hacmon (87:55)

That's what I thought, too. I was like, oh, I want to watch it, because I knew about that one. The guy who dresses it was, like, a clown party performer, and. Yeah. And he was unaliving all these young boys. This one. Then I turned the trailer on because it comes out this week on Netflix, and it was, like, featured on the homepage, and I was like, oh, he like killed girls and then he would wear their like clothes and like their faces.

Trisha Paytas (88:23)

No.

Moses Hacmon (88:23)

I know.

Trisha Paytas (88:25)

It makes me like nauseous. Like I just. I don't even know.

Moses Hacmon (88:27)

I. I was gag because I literally was like. Not that that's like the other. I think his also name was also the other murder was better. But I think I was just right, mentally prepared for that and then seeing that because they show that in the trailer too. I was like, damn. And then poor. I mean, Addison is serving though. Yeah, she really is. She can give good crying face and she is.

Trisha Paytas (88:46)

She's like a good actress too.

Moses Hacmon (88:48)

Very emotive.

Trisha Paytas (88:49)

Yeah. I really. She's like the next guy with Johansson. I think she's. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (88:55)

Tilly Norwood, watch out. This is on your.

Trisha Paytas (88:58)

I have been so excited about like a young. And I wouldn't call her up and comer because obviously she's like massive and has a fan base, but like up and comer because we were talking about her on a walk actually too. We were just talking about her walk like what was a couple days ago and we were saying like how mainstream she'd become and how like. Remember like a couple years ago it was like her parents just being like, so.

Moses Hacmon (89:14)

Yeah. And then going to the VMAs with young gravy.

Trisha Paytas (89:17)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (89:18)

I almost said young Meatloaf.

Trisha Paytas (89:19)

Oh my God. How do you know meatloaf?

Moses Hacmon (89:23)

I knew it was. I just knew it was one food item.

Trisha Paytas (89:26)

But meatloaf is very random and very niche. Anybody in history.

Moses Hacmon (89:30)

The singer Meatloaf.

Trisha Paytas (89:31)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (89:32)

He was on American idol, the Catherine McPhee season. That's how I actually know meatloaf. But I got young gravy just because Meatloaf and Grace.

Trisha Paytas (89:41)

Yes, yes. You got it. Yes. Yes. And then her dad, Monty Lopez was like dating Ava Louise.

Moses Hacmon (89:47)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (89:48)

And we're like. And it's embarrassing on his part. Not Ava Louise's partner. I'm just like, what? Like I wonder. And I was asking most. I wonder if she had him sign like. Like, like a. Like got like a gag order or like a non disclosure to like just stop posting on the Internet. Like I will pay you to just stop posting because you're ruining it for me. Not that anyone blamed Addison, but it was just like damn dark cloud.

Moses Hacmon (90:08)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (90:09)

Yeah. And it's your parents. Like, oh my God. Your parents are the ones caused like. Because she obviously brought them up because they remember they had a family. I remember this like so deep. Like they had a family TikTok channel. And it was like her brother and the parents. So, like, obviously, then people are like, like, oh, we love this family dynamic. Whatever. Kind of like d'. Amelios. But then for them to go off and just be embarrassing, just dating people half their age and just. And also just like, the spectacle. Yeah, yeah. Because Monty Lopez would be. I, like. And, you know, wish them well, but damn, thank God Addison's got to, like, shine. And, like, I don't know, maybe she had them like, hey, stop.

Moses Hacmon (90:44)

I know. Because, yeah, the VMAs thing was crazy.

Trisha Paytas (90:47)

Yeah, I remember that, too. And I just like, Like. And her mom was pretty. And you feel bad for her mom. I'm sure he was probably the relationship. But you're still like. Like, you said, like, a spectacle. Like, you're at the MTV VMAs with it. Like.

Moses Hacmon (90:58)

Yeah, it's not. It's, like, one thing to have your. I mean, I don't know if the term midlife crisis applies to them, but I'm just saying, like, that kind of.

Trisha Paytas (91:06)

Like, you know, Moment.

Moses Hacmon (91:08)

Moment. Yeah, like, in your own per. Like, okay. Like, that kind of makes sense. But again, until they make it a big public thing, when your daughter is, like, such a big star, is like, oh, my God, you can't let your daughter have her.

Trisha Paytas (91:19)

I know. I never, ever want to be that parent because, yeah, I never. I never want to embarrass. And no matter what, that's, like, my goal. I think in general, parents are just embarrassing to kids because it's like, they're your parents. But, like, having social media now, and I don't know what it'll be when Malibu is, like, 18, but. Or 16, or however they all. When they do social media. But, like, I wonder if they know. Like, I wonder if I'll know that I'm in, like, if I'm embarrassing her or not. Because, you know, sometimes you just want to relate. Like, I don't know what. Again, I don't know what the equivalent a tick tock will be in, like, 20 years, but whatever it is, I never want to, like, jump on it. If it's, like, a kid's thing and I'm, like, embarrassing her. Like, oh, what's your mom doing here? Yeah, I wish I'm a cool mom, but. But I don't even think that. I think even if you're the coolest mom, it's like Regina George's mom. Like, she was a cool mom, but even Regina was like, mom, get out of here. Like, you're embarrassing me. But she was cool. And you're like, I Want her as my mom.

Moses Hacmon (92:07)

Yeah. I mean even like Mariah Carey's kids when they're twitch streaming and remember that her son was twitch streaming and Mariah came in and he was yelling at her to get out of the. You know, even if you're Mariah Carey.

Trisha Paytas (92:18)

Yeah, you're so right. That's what I'm saying. I guess just in nature. Parents are embarrassing.

Moses Hacmon (92:23)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (92:23)

Just by existing, by being old.

Moses Hacmon (92:25)

I know they. They live for when you know, Mariah can get them into concerts and like, you know, get them on Kaisen out or whatever. But.

Trisha Paytas (92:31)

But that is like mom, get out of the. Yeah, yeah, you're right. All right, well, I guess we'll not to beat that. But you know, Addison is a. Are I honestly, like, her parents seem cool too. It just maybe. Maybe you didn't know. Sometimes with tick tock in the early days too, you just don't know. You're just kind of.

Moses Hacmon (92:47)

It is a little lawless. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (92:48)

Or you just, you know, you get some sort of fame, you don't know how to really deal with it. Especially when you're older.

Moses Hacmon (92:52)

Fame is a gun. You could say.

Trisha Paytas (92:55)

Yes. Yes. What's the next lyrics? I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (93:03)

I got a taste of the glamorous life.

Trisha Paytas (93:06)

Wow, I do love that.

Moses Hacmon (93:08)

I love her album. I do.

Trisha Paytas (93:09)

It's good. It's good. You sounded good on that too.

Moses Hacmon (93:12)

Kind of related. Kevin Hart, he had street, he had streamers, Lil Rodney, Son, Rakai and Toda. Like he was like. Had them at his house, I guess on their stream and it was kind of related. His run rule was like, don't talk to his daughter. And then they were like flirting with his daughter. And then he was like. He went off on them like midstream and it was like a whole.

Trisha Paytas (93:36)

For real? Yeah, real off. Well, how old is the daughter? Water. See, I didn't see this. Did you see this?

Guest or Producer (93:41)

Yeah, it was. It was an embarrassing dad.

Trisha Paytas (93:44)

Oh, really? You thought he just.

Moses Hacmon (93:45)

The way.

Guest or Producer (93:46)

The way that he said it, like. I wouldn't say it that way.

Trisha Paytas (93:49)

I want to know how old it heaven is.

Moses Hacmon (93:51)

20. Who? Heaven. That's her name. 20. Have one such a pretty name.

Trisha Paytas (93:56)

Yeah, that's pretty. Kevin in heaven. As I first thought you said Kevin. I was like, Kevin's 20.

Moses Hacmon (94:00)

Oh, wait, I didn't even put that together. But yeah. Let's see. I'll play the clip for you.

Trisha Paytas (94:04)

Okay. Somebody.

Moses Hacmon (94:06)

Somebody in the chat said, hey, look at Rai.

Trisha Paytas (94:09)

Look at Ra production. Production. Look at Ra.

Moses Hacmon (94:13)

That's his daughter, man.

Trisha Paytas (94:14)

No, s. Her she 20.

Moses Hacmon (94:20)

Put a shirt on, bro.

Trisha Paytas (94:21)

That's the first time I almost whip a shirt on, bro. I almost jumped on your.

Moses Hacmon (94:25)

You hear me? Won't you tell me what the she is? Don't you tell me what she is. She came out my balls.

Trisha Paytas (94:33)

Wow. Okay, yeah, maybe a little cringe. Like, I get it. And, like, I get it. But also, like, the ball's comment was crazy. And that's his daughter. Was that his daughter right there off to the side?

Moses Hacmon (94:44)

That was heaven.

Trisha Paytas (94:45)

Yeah. So she's like, what? Like, ew. Like, what do you mean? Like, that's. Yeah, cringe for sure. Is not. Is this at his house or it's just, like, a streaming party?

Moses Hacmon (94:56)

I think it was his. Let me see.

Trisha Paytas (94:58)

See.

Moses Hacmon (94:58)

Oh, no, it was at the moment. Do you know if it was his house?

Guest or Producer (95:01)

I just assumed because she was there, I would assume that he wouldn't bring her elsewhere if he didn't want her to interact with them.

Trisha Paytas (95:07)

Yeah, I guess it's different maybe if it's, like, at your house, but maybe.

Guest or Producer (95:11)

That'S one way of preventing her from dating men. He's just embarrassing her in front.

Trisha Paytas (95:16)

Oh, my gosh. Well, then she'll never want to introduce anyone. She'll never want to bring anyone back. She'll, like, run off.

Moses Hacmon (95:21)

And I understand the sentiment because also, like, I don't want. I wouldn't want my daughter to be talking to streamer boys either. I'd be like, girl, please.

Trisha Paytas (95:29)

Yeah, that's very true.

Moses Hacmon (95:31)

Delivery could.

Trisha Paytas (95:32)

Delivery was crazy.

Moses Hacmon (95:34)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (95:34)

Sometimes funny. I mean, it is kind of funny. Yeah. Did turn into a roast, like you said. That was kind of, like, funny, because that was crazy. I was like, oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah. I would say embarrassing, yes. But I get the sentiment, too. And honestly, I would rather you lean towards that side than just let anyone talk. If you guys feel some type of way, like you're not good enough for my daughter, it's the equivalent of like, yeah, back in the day, dads would get out, like, shotguns or whatever. It's like the equivalent of, like, just roasting them, I guess. Better, healthier, probably. So, okay, I'm here for it.

Moses Hacmon (96:08)

And I'm also kind of like, if it is his house.

Trisha Paytas (96:11)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (96:11)

And, like, if he's letting all you guys at his house, like, yes, you are famous, but, like, still, he is Kevin Hart. Like, he is such a rich famous and just older. You know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (96:22)

Like, where's the respect?

Moses Hacmon (96:24)

Like, oh, my. You know, my apologies, sir. Like, what happened to them?

Trisha Paytas (96:27)

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I don't. I guess I don't even know what he said. Do you know what he said to the daughter? Do you know what he said to Kevin?

Moses Hacmon (96:31)

He just saw them. I think he saw that group talking to her and then he just went off. Yeah. And then Drew Ski was trying to like, be like, whoa. Like, calm down.

Trisha Paytas (96:41)

Like, he's pretty brave.

Moses Hacmon (96:42)

I know I was. That's why I'm kind of like. Everyone was like, well, like, chill. But I'm kind of like. I kind of. I get where he was coming from.

Trisha Paytas (96:49)

Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, on the other hand, like, well, you just don't want anyone ever talking to your daughter like it's a party. You want her to just be in the corner alone or whatever. Like, it's like they weren't being, like, disrespectful or touchy. It didn't look like from what I saw. It's just like, you know, they're just talking. And what did he say that made him go off? He's just like, oh, she's 20. And he's like, don't tell me what she is. And it's like, well, like, I mean, he's just pointing out. I don't know. That was, I guess, a weird comment also. Well, she has 20. Okay. What?

Moses Hacmon (97:13)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (97:14)

Yeah. Who are they? They're. They're famous. Do we know them?

Moses Hacmon (97:17)

Streamers. Yeah. And I guess too, he had already told them to not talk. Like, to leave her alone. Like, to not talk to her too. So I guess also a disrespectful thing as well. Like, if you're at someone's house.

Trisha Paytas (97:30)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (97:31)

They're also older. They're also famous. Like, they're. Yeah. It's like a collaboration. That'd be like, if I just came through and I was like, like, want to go chitchat with Malibu waiting for. You know what I mean? It's like, why would I do that?

Trisha Paytas (97:42)

You know? I know. It's a. It's a tough one. I don't know. Cuz like, on one hand I was like, yeah. Like, I. I would want her to feel, like, included.

Moses Hacmon (97:49)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (97:49)

You don't want them to be, but. Yeah, I guess on the other hand, it's like. I don't know. I don't know. It's. It's very. Yeah, it's very different, I guess. I don't know. What's your thoughts? You're going to go.

Moses Hacmon (98:00)

Yeah. As a dad, do you relate to Kevin Hart? A girl dad, too? Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (98:03)

Yeah, Girl dad.

Guest or Producer (98:04)

As a Dad. I mean, they wouldn't even be in this house, so.

Trisha Paytas (98:06)

Oh, oh, she's never dating. Don't be that way. My dad was definitely like, you're not dating until you're 30. And he was dead serious about it. Like, dead serious. But even when I was in college, like, when I went to community college for, like, two weeks and I lived with my dad, I remember him being like. I remember I was talking to someone at Target that I worked with. Like, I worked at Target and talked with him. Like, talked with this boy, like, on the phone. He, like, took my phone away to my credit cards away. He's like, you're not going back to work at Target. And I was like, for talking. It's like a. Like, a fellow male employee is crazy.

Guest or Producer (98:34)

Yeah. No, not that extreme.

Trisha Paytas (98:36)

Then you know what I did? I went and became a hooker. Well, that's what I'm saying. You can't push them too much the other way. Like, oh, no boys.

Guest or Producer (98:44)

No, I think. I mean, I don't think my job is to be a bouncer. My job is to raise her to a place where she can make her decisions about who's a good guy and who's not. You know what I mean? Like, it wouldn't be my.

Trisha Paytas (98:55)

But this situation, that person is probably nice. If he's a streamer, he probably makes money. He's probably a nice boy. You don't know.

Guest or Producer (99:01)

Kevin probably knows things.

Trisha Paytas (99:02)

We don't know about that streamer. I don't think so. I bet he's just doing the collaboration.

Guest or Producer (99:05)

Maybe about his own daughter. Maybe that's what I'm saying. Like, I wouldn't be in a place where I don't trust my daughter to make the.

Trisha Paytas (99:13)

Okay, so you trust Malibu. She's a good girl. We're having a party, and streamers are talking to her.

Guest or Producer (99:19)

I trust her to know who's good and who's not. I mean, people are gonna talk. People are gonna talk. It's not like just by talking you can win somebody's.

Trisha Paytas (99:29)

In a way. I almost would rather it happen in the house. Kind of like drinking, right? Like, if you're gonna drink in the house, because then you can, like, monitor it as opposed to, like, dms from, like, creepy people. And you can't really monitor the conversations as much. I'd rather see it in my own house. Like, just what the interaction is.

Guest or Producer (99:45)

Yeah. But by the time she's 20, I trust she will know to discern for herself.

Trisha Paytas (99:50)

20 is an old age to be dating. People date now at 16 that's what I'm saying.

Guest or Producer (99:54)

By 20, she should definitely.

Trisha Paytas (99:56)

I'll be a great mom in this category because I'm like, can I tell you, I. Dating's not that great. Sex is not that great. It's just. Wait, like, you would have your whole life to do it. It's.

Guest or Producer (100:08)

I know that they listen to that.

Moses Hacmon (100:09)

I know.

Trisha Paytas (100:10)

I think so. I think so. I thought it was, like, the coolest thing. I was like, I cannot wait to have sex and have a boyfriend. And no one told me otherwise. No one told me, like, many. You know, like, if someone would tell me that, I'd have been like, okay. But no, no one told me that. So I was just like, all right, I want to have. I want to do it. Because I'm learning from movies. Everyone's just having sex and stuff. But if I'm like, but if someone.

Moses Hacmon (100:27)

Told you, would you have listened?

Trisha Paytas (100:29)

Maybe if someone would tell me how gross sex is, I'd be like, maybe. Because the first time I had it, I remember being like, yo, but didn't.

Moses Hacmon (100:36)

Your sister warn you about skid marks? And you were still hanging out with that man.

Trisha Paytas (100:41)

So skin marks is different. Skin marks is different when you're in love. Usually when you have sex, you're not in love right away.

Moses Hacmon (100:50)

I think there is no. Especially back in your younger years. I think there is no way to have DM influenced you when you had your mind made up 100. I don't even think I could have de. Influenced you out of, like, a bag that you wanted to buy out of that, like, Chanel birdcage bag. I think if I was like, trisha, I don't think you should buy this. I think you would have been irate with me.

Trisha Paytas (101:08)

Yeah, my daughters are a little more sensible than me. They do listen to things a little more. Sometimes Mama will listen to me or even Elvis. If I say, that's yucky, she'll be like, all right, I'll put it down. You know what I mean? I think when I was a kid, if you tell me something's yucky, I want to eat it more. But they're pretty smart that way. Some kids are more like, oh, that's yucky. I'll put it in your mouth. They're like, that's yucky. It's like, oh, don't touch it. So I think they're more resilient. That's where I'm going to go with. But I'll. I'll let them know. Like, it's sticky. It's not fun. It's gross. Just wait. Like, okay.

Guest or Producer (101:42)

Dating and men are like, slime. I guess some men are slimy.

Trisha Paytas (101:47)

Wait, dating and men are like slime?

Guest or Producer (101:50)

Because we're talking about our kids playing with slime. They're like, put it down. It's yucky or something.

Trisha Paytas (101:55)

Oh, right, right.

Guest or Producer (101:57)

It is probably equivalent to dating.

Trisha Paytas (102:02)

Yeah. Or just have something else shiny for them. Or do you want to go to the Bora Bora with mommy? Do you want to go on a date? Or you want to go here to Disneyland in Tokyo, vip? Yeah. You gotta bribe them the other way.

Guest or Producer (102:14)

But if we give them a good example, then they'll be like, well, you know, like, the way we treat each other, then they'll know if somebody mistreats them, they'll like, that's not how it's supposed to.

Trisha Paytas (102:23)

Oh, well, yeah. That's very different, for sure.

Guest or Producer (102:25)

It doesn't matter what we say as much as what they actually see, period.

Trisha Paytas (102:30)

Parenting advice from Moses and Trisha.

Moses Hacmon (102:34)

Oh, a couple and couple news. Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban splitting.

Trisha Paytas (102:38)

I hate it.

Moses Hacmon (102:38)

That honestly really gagged me. Even though I'm not really personally or parasocially invested in Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban, I think they're just one of those couples. I'm like, I just always assumed they were always a thing. I don't know. Always together.

Trisha Paytas (102:50)

Can I tell you, you, I am opposite. I'm like, how do they last? How do you even get together in the first place? Like, I kind of. I guess I, like, in the back of my head, I knew they were married. I never really put two and two together. And you're just like, what do you mean they're a couple? That, to me, makes zero sense. It's like Renee, when Renee Zellweger married Kenny Chesney for, like, a month. And you're just like, what? It was, like, around the same time. And then, like, this happened, and I kind of didn't know they were still married. And they said 19 years. I was like, they never go anywhere together. Like, you never see them together. Right. It's.

Moses Hacmon (103:18)

I see them everywhere together. But it's also like your job. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (103:21)

You're, like, editing the.

Moses Hacmon (103:22)

She goes. But she goes with them to, like, every Country Music award thing.

Trisha Paytas (103:27)

Oh, what?

Moses Hacmon (103:28)

So, like. Yeah, if you're. If you ever see a country music, like, she is always at a corporate with him. She kind of was queenie in that sense. Like, she would be supporting her man. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (103:39)

I think he's scummy.

Moses Hacmon (103:41)

I know. Well, that's the. The Rumor is that he already moved. Keith Urban already moved on with a younger girlfriend after ending his relationship with Nicole.

Trisha Paytas (103:51)

Oh, I didn't hear this part.

Moses Hacmon (103:52)

Oh, yeah. A national music business PR insider told the Daily Mail that the rumor is that he's with a younger woman in the business. It's all everyone is talking about. Everyone wants to know who, but so far, that's a mystery because he is the one that asked for the separation from Nicole. Nicole was reportedly blindsided by it and did not want to part ways with Keith, and she's been trying to save their marriage, so she was pretty hurt by this separation use. And then after he filed for separation, Nicole filed for divorce, but he was the one to break it off first.

Trisha Paytas (104:27)

Because he allegedly has it. Someone young.

Moses Hacmon (104:29)

Allegedly.

Trisha Paytas (104:30)

Yeah. Which. What a piece of. Because I heard. I heard. Is this alleged or is this fact? In their prenup, she was paying him $900,000 a year for every year he's sober.

Moses Hacmon (104:42)

Oh, possibly. I know.

Trisha Paytas (104:43)

So he's gonna get $17 million. Someone said recently. Yeah. And I was like. So she was basically bribing him to stay sober, which I don't like. Balls. Like, I was like, that's kind of everything. That's kind of, you know, cute, but, like, is he gonna take that money? Is he, like. Because he. He's not working right. Like, he's not.

Moses Hacmon (105:00)

He's on tour right now.

Trisha Paytas (105:02)

Look up those venues. What kind of. Where Are we. Are we talking county fairs or are we talking, like, Allstate Arena? Know.

Moses Hacmon (105:09)

It's. He plays pretty big venues because, you know country music, though. Like, country music. You'd be surprised by them, by the audience. And he's, like, international. Yeah. I don't know. No, I don't. He has a song, Carrie Underwood, that I. I heard was pretty popular.

Trisha Paytas (105:23)

Okay. Wow. Okay. Try not to judge. But what. Keith Urban. I guess he did American Idol. Guess he has money from that.

Moses Hacmon (105:33)

Oh, I forgot he did American Idol. Yeah, but country music is really lucrative in general, like, as far as genres.

Trisha Paytas (105:41)

I hope he doesn't take any money from her. I mean, granted, she probably makes way more than him because she's, like, iconic. That AMC residual bag I'm trying to.

Moses Hacmon (105:48)

See because I know. I saw a headline about their prenup agreement.

Trisha Paytas (105:56)

Yeah, I did, too. I was like, he's gonna get $17 million. I was like, what? That's. I mean, Grant, I guess not a lot. I guess if he's making all that money. If he's, like, doing arenas.

Moses Hacmon (106:06)

Oh, yeah. It could allow the Singer to take home over a million. $11 million following their separation because of a due. Because of a drug related clause is the rumor. Yeah, you're right. 600,000 for every year of marriage on the condition he remains sober. Well, that is crazy.

Trisha Paytas (106:29)

What a wild prenup. Kind of nice, I guess, like, you know, motivates you. But also, was that his motivation? Because isn't a prenup only come into place when you divorce T. So was he just, like, I'm gonna say sober and try and, like, make this marriage as long as possible so I can get that check, or she just paying him every year that he was sober?

Moses Hacmon (106:49)

Yeah, I get that. It's just. It's the. The pre. In the prenup. So that would be. Yeah, that. In the divorce.

Trisha Paytas (106:56)

What a weird.

Moses Hacmon (106:57)

Yeah.

Guest or Producer (106:57)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (106:57)

Okay.

Moses Hacmon (107:00)

So that is oddly specific. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (107:04)

Yeah. It's just like, you're both rich. Do you need, like, you know, to say whatever is yours, yours. We'll split everything else, like, half. Whatever, take whatever. When you're so rich. Doesn't even matter. You take five houses, I take five houses. Like, you go on tour, I'll make movies. That's it.

Moses Hacmon (107:19)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (107:19)

I think it's, like, weird when people have to, like, pay when you're both multi. Multi millionaires.

Moses Hacmon (107:26)

Yeah. And very successful. Both still working. So.

Trisha Paytas (107:29)

Yeah. He gave up his career. Although I would have thought. I mean, I used to know Keith Urban, like, again when I was, like, in middle school. He had, like, music videos come out. I thought he was. I guess he was kind of cool. I don't know, like, Kenny Chesney days. Like this. Kane Chesney still around.

Moses Hacmon (107:40)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (107:43)

What is he doing?

Moses Hacmon (107:44)

What's he looking? I think bald.

Trisha Paytas (107:46)

I think he was always bald, though. That was, like, the gag, right? Like, he was so hot. Everyone's like, those arms, the hat. And then, like, I think. And look, baldies are hot, too, but it's just, like, gag that he was.

Moses Hacmon (107:55)

Bald this whole life and under that hat. Yeah, I guess. Okay. Yeah. I have. And I. Everything I know about country music, for the most part, is against my will. There are a few, like, female artists that I like, but a lot of.

Trisha Paytas (108:09)

The male ones don't do it for you.

Moses Hacmon (108:10)

No. And I learn about it just literally because of. In passing, because of my job. But we cover a lot of country music.

Trisha Paytas (108:17)

I like, did, like country music back in the day. I think it's like, the current state of, like, country music. Like, I liked a Garth Brooks. Yes. I know he was, like, a cheater, but Like, I loved, like a Garth Brooks. I did love a Kenny Chesney. But they just seem kind of, like, nice back in the day. I don't know. I feel like Rascal Flats seemed pretty innocent. It's like now they're all a little dubious. When I think of Morgan, Wally and. Or Zach, Bryan or Luke, Brian. Like, there's so many.

Moses Hacmon (108:42)

Shelton.

Trisha Paytas (108:43)

Yeah. Dubious a little bit, huh?

Moses Hacmon (108:44)

Yeah. In my opinion.

Trisha Paytas (108:47)

Yeah, in my opinion.

Moses Hacmon (108:49)

Yeah. I forgot because I was just thinking Blake Shelton as far as. Just like, he's a little ultra. Like, so. So, like, super. Super, like Christian. Like ultra Christian. But I forgot him. He was with Miranda Lambert and then he divorced her and then got with Gwen Stefani and.

Trisha Paytas (109:08)

But before Miranda Lambert, he divorced his first wife and got with Miranda Lambert.

Moses Hacmon (109:11)

I didn't know that.

Trisha Paytas (109:11)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (109:12)

Oh, wow. Damn.

Trisha Paytas (109:15)

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Which, you know, I don't know. The life of a country star. I guess it is. Yeah. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (109:22)

Well, you know, Nicole's a legend, though.

Trisha Paytas (109:25)

She's a legend.

Moses Hacmon (109:27)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (109:27)

I love Nicole Heyman and yeah, she went from Tom Cruise and like, oh, my God. Yeah, she escaped him, then had Keith er. It's like, oh, girl, 19 years. You know me, I don't love an age gap relationship, but maybe Zac Efron, they did have really good.

Moses Hacmon (109:41)

You know.

Trisha Paytas (109:42)

Were they in a movie together? They were. Right?

Moses Hacmon (109:43)

Yes. I said that's.

Trisha Paytas (109:44)

That's what.

Moses Hacmon (109:44)

Now people are, like, going back and like, seeing different things. Like, there was a interview in Australia that Keith Urban did where he got asked about, like, oh, how did you feel saying, like, your wife was Zac Efron in that movie? And then he like, like storm. It was like a calling interview too. So he, like, took off his head and he just, like turned off the phone. Like, he just, like, went weird about it and like, basically walked off the interview. And then there's been other, like, he got asked about Nicole with, like, Ryan Seacrest and he also was, like, really, really, like, odd about that. So there's.

Trisha Paytas (110:14)

Wait, what was the Brian Seacrest.

Moses Hacmon (110:16)

He had a similar. Where he got asked about, like, oh, like, your love with Nicole or whatever. And he gave, like, a really weird, roundabout answer for that too. So there's been like, a few things before this news came out with kind of just highlighting that they've had problems, I guess, for a while.

Trisha Paytas (110:32)

Well, Nicole's desirable and I don't know if you are maybe to some people, not to meme.

Moses Hacmon (110:40)

I know she really is so queen and she's like. Because I thought it was kind of cute. She was taller than him too. And I'm like, okay. I feel like she's the hbic. But then he's. If. If it's true that he's already moved on, I'm like, damn. Even if you're Queenie Nicole Kidman, men will still do you dirty.

Trisha Paytas (110:56)

I feel like I've met him. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (111:00)

At an American Idol thing.

Trisha Paytas (111:01)

Maybe. Maybe. Was he on when JLo was on?

Moses Hacmon (111:03)

I think he was.

Trisha Paytas (111:04)

Let me see if I can find a picture of us because I feel like I have a picture with him and he was kind of scary. I could be making this up. Let me see. What's his last name? Urban. Real name? Yeah. Keith Urban. Oh, there we are. Wow. Me and Keith Urban. Why do I look at a picture with him?

Moses Hacmon (111:22)

That is so funny.

Trisha Paytas (111:23)

This is the American Idol lighting. I like see it. What year is this? 12, 8. Just 2014. I'm terrible at selfies, but Keith Urban is my all time favorite American Idol judge. Blogging the all new season hashtag idol. We got paid for that. He looks not happy. I know he's had issues with substances, but he does look a little crazy. Crazy. But maybe it's lighting.

Moses Hacmon (111:44)

It might be the lighting.

Trisha Paytas (111:45)

Yeah, the lighting's atrocious on me too. That was the Jayla one where me and Jayla are the same side because she really does not like to take pictures on the other side. All the judges were pissed that we were there taking pictures, but meanwhile we got paid to be there. So I was like, do you think I want to be here at American Idol? No. I don't know what we're doing here, but we're here. I actually did. I thought that was a cool job, but everyone was not nice to us there. Ryan Seacoast was pretty nice, I think. I took a picture with him. He was nice, but also didn't care about anybody. But according to that tweet, I was.

Moses Hacmon (112:12)

A huge fan, favorite judge ever.

Trisha Paytas (112:14)

Wow me to Saki. I just look up other tweets that there's other. Let me see. Because there probably is. I'm sure somewhere along the line, like, I love Keith Urban. That's funny. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. So this is saying like rumored People magazine or People Twitter said Keith Urban changed song lyrics inspired by Nicole Kidman romance to reference new guitar players.

Moses Hacmon (112:38)

Yeah, it was so weird.

Trisha Paytas (112:39)

Oh, that's what it is. So someone's like, so Carrie says, just random Twitter person says he's dating a 25 year old woman with a 17 year old at home and he's Being petty and smug about it. Yeah. Keith Urban. You better sleep with one eye open, because I'll throw hands. Hands. Men really are pigs. Hmm. People are not happy. Oh, man. Keith Urban is ugly and untalented. He would have no career longevity if he hadn't married Nicole Kidman. He would have been dead, probably due to his vast substance abuse. Wow. Saved his life. It wasn't enough. The pig still snorted at a girl in her 20s. Oh, my God. People are so. Is this. That's okay. Well, yeah, I don't like him, but probably better than Tom Cruise. Maybe. I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (113:24)

I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (113:25)

He seems nice, though. Tom Cruise gave popcorn to everyone at an amc. He seems nice.

Moses Hacmon (113:30)

What movie was that?

Trisha Paytas (113:31)

Recent?

Moses Hacmon (113:32)

Yeah, I think Mission Impossible.

Trisha Paytas (113:34)

He's just hanging out. Popcorn. He seems nice, but maybe a little. We should investigate Scientology more. Maybe. Maybe it's not as bad as people say. No, I don't know. People give it a bad rap. I'm like, he's a Scientologist, but, like, is that a bad thing?

Moses Hacmon (113:47)

Well, Jimmy's dream guest for you is. His other dream guest for you is Leah Remini, who escaped the Church of Scientology.

Trisha Paytas (113:53)

This is the first time hearing about it. I love that. Who was your dream guests on here, you think? Since you edit our currently.

Moses Hacmon (113:59)

I was thinking about this last night with my boyfriend. I would love Leah Remini on this show.

Trisha Paytas (114:03)

Wow. What does he like her from?

Moses Hacmon (114:10)

What's that show?

Trisha Paytas (114:11)

King of Queens.

Moses Hacmon (114:12)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (114:12)

He is still my mom. They really would be best friends. My mom is obsessed with Kim Queens and obsessed with Leah Remini. That is so funny. Oh, she was a psychologist and she escaped.

Moses Hacmon (114:22)

Yeah, right.

Trisha Paytas (114:22)

She had a whole show about it.

Moses Hacmon (114:23)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (114:25)

Yeah. I would love to know, like, why people hate it so much. I. Look, I literally don't know, so don't come from. We can tell me in the comments if you want. But, like, why people hate. Hate it so much. Like, it's just a religion. Right? Like. Right.

Guest or Producer (114:38)

I mean, once they have you sign all your possessions and sign a contract for your soul forever and not your.

Trisha Paytas (114:46)

Soul, just your possessions. You remember my sister's uncle or something got all his possessions taken from the church. Technology. His soul is still intact, but he.

Guest or Producer (114:54)

Might have signed it off. I don't know. I don't know. I just think they overstep, you know, it's like the. The line is very fine between cult and religion.

Trisha Paytas (115:05)

That's what I'm saying. I think all religion's a little culty and religious.

Guest or Producer (115:09)

There's probably there's some people that need more structure than others.

Trisha Paytas (115:13)

Yeah. So they need that like, so they.

Guest or Producer (115:15)

Find a place that completely controls them because that's what makes them happy in life. They can. So. But for some people it works. Some doesn't.

Trisha Paytas (115:23)

Cuz John T.R. is a Scientologist. He seems like he's doing fine in like life.

Guest or Producer (115:26)

Yeah. But the. Those people are like the VIPs. They're more like a billboard. You know, they get the way they get treated is not the way people get treated at the church. You know what I mean? They treat them extremely well because they're like. They just walk out there and promote something.

Trisha Paytas (115:44)

Yeah. I think Mormons get a bad rap in like pop culture, like Book of Mormon and stuff. But there's never like. Like Scientologists have like, oh, they're a Scientologist, but they never get like a. Like a South park episode dedicated to them, you know?

Guest or Producer (115:54)

Cuz they'll sue.

Trisha Paytas (115:56)

Who?

Guest or Producer (115:57)

Oh yeah, the church will. Yeah, that's how they got their tax exam. They just sued everyone in the irs. They. They'll just. They'll sue us.

Trisha Paytas (116:06)

A fact.

Guest or Producer (116:07)

They'll. Yeah, they. They just sue everyone and everything.

Trisha Paytas (116:11)

Smart.

Guest or Producer (116:11)

So nobody messes with them.

Trisha Paytas (116:13)

Okay. Wow. Scientologist expert over here too. You know everything today. Wow. I'm ready. Yes. I really am.

Guest or Producer (116:20)

But sometimes I know.

Trisha Paytas (116:21)

How do you keep up with Scientology and the Barbs? Like you keep up with everything. He's like, yep, I know this. I know too. I'm like, what?

Guest or Producer (116:30)

I guess, you know, I'm. I'm an elder.

Trisha Paytas (116:32)

You know, I'm on. I'm online more than you. And I don't like, I'm on my phone more than you. And I don't see how.

Moses Hacmon (116:37)

But you see mostly yourself is probably.

Trisha Paytas (116:39)

That is very true. My whole timeline is mean.

Guest or Producer (116:42)

Most of my timeline too is egg cookings.

Trisha Paytas (116:48)

You know, wish them well though, because it's. It's a divorce and it's not fun for anyone. And they have two daughters.

Moses Hacmon (116:54)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (116:55)

Sunday Rose.

Moses Hacmon (116:56)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (116:58)

And the other one, I forgot her name. But she's also 14. Yeah. You always feel bad for kids when your parents divorce, but yeah, two with.

Moses Hacmon (117:05)

Tom Cruise and two with Keith Urban.

Trisha Paytas (117:08)

Pretty impressive. And still working.

Moses Hacmon (117:11)

Yeah, and working a lot too. She's always in something.

Trisha Paytas (117:13)

She is always in something.

Moses Hacmon (117:14)

She always has a project coming out.

Trisha Paytas (117:15)

Out. And she was like that back when I was a kid. She was like in everything. She was an eyes wide shot and then Batman and then Stepford wise and you're just like.

Moses Hacmon (117:21)

And you could tell she actually likes making movies and stuff too. I think that's.

Trisha Paytas (117:25)

Enjoys it.

Moses Hacmon (117:25)

Yeah, she enjoys the artistry of, you know, making a.

Guest or Producer (117:28)

Making Sirens or the new one.

Moses Hacmon (117:33)

No, I know which one you're talking about. Not that one, but the girl. Megan Fahey was also in the other one. The Perfect Couple.

Guest or Producer (117:41)

No, no, there's a. The. There's a show. It's like had a few episodes I watched and I think it's her.

Moses Hacmon (117:46)

The Netflix one.

Trisha Paytas (117:47)

Sirens. I don't know.

Guest or Producer (117:51)

You said we should watch it and when you weren't tour.

Trisha Paytas (117:53)

Yeah, cuz you said you liked it.

Moses Hacmon (117:55)

No, I didn't see Sirens, but Megan Fy is in it.

Trisha Paytas (117:59)

Oh, maybe that's why. Maybe that's who you're thinking of.

Moses Hacmon (118:00)

And Megan FY was in the Perfect Couple with Nicole Kidman.

Trisha Paytas (118:05)

Maybe you're thinking Megan Fay. He isn't. I don't know. Maybe you're right. I have no idea. I've never seen it.

Moses Hacmon (118:09)

But Julianne Moore is in it.

Trisha Paytas (118:11)

Those Sirens, that's who you're thinking of? Yeah, she was in like Boogie Nights. They're kind of similar too.

Moses Hacmon (118:17)

Yeah, they are. They do give similar vibes. Yeah. I do want to watch Sirens though. Even though again, no one cares because it's so old now. But I love Millie Alcock. She's Supergirl.

Trisha Paytas (118:26)

Oh, when's that come out?

Moses Hacmon (118:28)

Next summer.

Trisha Paytas (118:30)

Yeah, you bought tickets already?

Moses Hacmon (118:32)

No, but I will be seeing. And you'll be at the premiere, I'm sure. I feel like you'll get it.

Trisha Paytas (118:35)

I love that manifestation. That's so random.

Moses Hacmon (118:37)

Well, Warner Brothers, Aquaman, James Gunn.

Trisha Paytas (118:41)

It's the new.

Moses Hacmon (118:42)

Yeah, it's the new. It all just makes sense.

Trisha Paytas (118:44)

I'm down. I love. It's so weird. We're so into Big Bang Theory right now and they mention Aquaman like every few episodes. Like it's crazy. Like they talk about like, where does Aquaman poop? And like all this stuff like that. And I was just like, this is so weird. And like Sheldon is always wearing an Aquaman shirt. Like it's very odd. Like, I get it. It's like dc. Like you told me about it, but it's just like random because specifically him. They mentioned the Flash quite a bit, I guess too. But more so than Batman or Superman. They mentioned Aquaman. It's very odd. Yeah, they like him on that show. But so funny. Yeah, I'll be there. I love Supergirl. I dressed as Supergirl for many years. Yeah, that was. That was a. That was a time in my life. It's a good time. You could have taken a picture with us for a couple dollars. Actually, it was free. You just ask for donations. You're like, we work on donations. And then they could tip you or not. But my neighbors remember. How did John be like, you have to pay. But it was like, legal to say that. So he was like, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (119:30)

Oh, and you'll definitely. Yeah. Maybe you'll be, like, on the press tour or something, too, because that's also Jason Momoa. So between.

Trisha Paytas (119:38)

What do you mean?

Moses Hacmon (119:38)

Supergirl. That's the one Jason Momoa is in. So, yeah, you'll definitely be there. All the stars are aligning for you and Supergirl.

Trisha Paytas (119:45)

I'm down. I'm ready. I don't know, though. What if Jason Momoa hates that we named our kid Aquaman because he never has to give a comment, but kind of James Gunn did on a busy press tour.

Guest or Producer (119:55)

He has to be in a place where he's asked about it. Yeah, he can't. Just unsolicited.

Trisha Paytas (120:00)

Yeah, he was on a press tour, wasn't he, during that time? Chief of.

Moses Hacmon (120:03)

Right before. Before you announced the name. It was like a week before.

Trisha Paytas (120:07)

He's a nice guy. I'm sure he doesn't care. Also, he doesn't own Aquaman, so. But it'd be nice to get the approval of one Aquaman because there's not another real. Right. There was no other person that played Aquaman in anything.

Moses Hacmon (120:17)

I don't think so. Besides, like, animation.

Trisha Paytas (120:20)

Yeah, I would love. I think we talked about this before. Like, a Smallville version of Aquaman. Like a little high school version of him. Yeah, you know, that'd be cool. I don't know who'd play it. Maybe our Aquaman one day. He'd be a good actor for it. But, yeah, I see it happened. Did you see Mikayla, speaking of Jason Momoa? She was getting ready for her an Adam Sandler concert. She had. My biggest. People aren't thinking I'm so weird, but my biggest celebrity crush is Adam Sandler. Like, I love him, which is like one. I don't think it's weird anymore. I think everyone has crush on Adam Sandler.

Moses Hacmon (120:47)

Yeah, Literally.

Trisha Paytas (120:47)

Brianna Chicken Fry Tana. I mean, I did kind of start it a few years ago. I don't think this is, like, a weird. Everyone's like, I know it's so weird, but he's so hot. I mean, I think everyone thinks Adam Sandler is hot. I don't think there's, like, one person who doesn't. So it's funny she phrased that way, but she's like, yeah, I just think he's so hot. She goes, what am I supposed to have a crush on Jason Momoa? I was like, I mean, he's also a very attractive person. Like, she acted like, I guess she was saying that's like a standard type of hot. But I'm like, I would say more people are hyped for Adam Sandler than they are Jason Moore. And I love Jason Momoa. I'm more, I'm more of a Jason Momoa girly. But I would say more people are hyped for Adam Sandler. Don't you think? Like, wouldn't you say more people are like her where they have a crush on Adam Sandler?

Moses Hacmon (121:24)

I think, yeah, I think so.

Trisha Paytas (121:27)

Because Jason was very beautiful, but he doesn't have like, you know, he's charming. I don't want to say it like that. It's just, I'm just saying Adam Sandler is very. Just like everyone loves Adam Sandler and Jason Moore maybe could be a little more niche even though he's very famous, but maybe more me.

Moses Hacmon (121:40)

Oh, to me, I feel like people, like people would say it, but like, I'm not like the other girls core. I'm not like that. Adam Sandler is so hot. I. What you expect me to love like David Corn Sweat, like, right?

Trisha Paytas (121:52)

She didn't say, she didn't say like Ryan Gosling or something.

Moses Hacmon (121:54)

She was like, it is like not like the other girl's core. Like.

Trisha Paytas (121:58)

I see, I see. But, but Adam Sandler is.

Moses Hacmon (122:00)

But he is attract. He is like funny like that play.

Trisha Paytas (122:03)

They're just saying he's not like Jason Mo six foot abs and.

Moses Hacmon (122:07)

Yeah. And also I think maybe because he's old like Adam Sandler, like when he was like young, he was like very attractive.

Trisha Paytas (122:14)

He's like not Pete Davidson because whatever. But like a hot comedian that people like. Yeah, yeah, I guess he's just not like athletic and huge. But okay. I was, I was trying to. Now that makes sense. I was trying to grasp it because she specifically said just mow too. She goes, oh, like, I don't, I don't like Jason Momo. I like Adam Sandler. I was like, well, it's also kind of comparing apples and oranges too, because they're just totally different types. You know, it's like, like, who's the guy who plays?

Guest or Producer (122:38)

She's saying like, I'm not shallow. I'm deeper than that. Like, that's.

Trisha Paytas (122:41)

I think she just likes a funny Guy.

Guest or Producer (122:43)

Something like. Yeah, like a bit more. It's not just body, it's more. You know, it needs to be funny and interesting.

Trisha Paytas (122:52)

So funny.

Guest or Producer (122:53)

I think that's what it is. I don't think she just says Jason because that's. Oh, he's just like a symbol of, you know, traditional.

Moses Hacmon (122:59)

The traditional hot mess.

Trisha Paytas (123:01)

I thought she used him for it.

Guest or Producer (123:03)

I mean Chief of War was great.

Trisha Paytas (123:05)

I don't know watch it by himself. I was like, oh, okay.

Guest or Producer (123:08)

And I thought it was gonna continue and just gonna end it. But I guess season one so there'll.

Trisha Paytas (123:12)

Be more seasons Descended. It's like overcome seeing descended. You liked it. Did it get into. It was all subtitles when I was watching it. Did it get into non subtitles?

Guest or Producer (123:20)

There's more English now, incorporated.

Trisha Paytas (123:22)

So did he just learn. This is not like a hot topic, but did he just learn a whole other language for it or. He knew it.

Guest or Producer (123:28)

I mean it's his native. It's Hawaiian, but I don't know how much people talk.

Trisha Paytas (123:31)

Is there Hawaiian language? I really don't know know. It's. It's specific to Hawaii or it's like a certain Polynesian, certain island or they.

Guest or Producer (123:39)

All speak the same. So all of the. All the islands speak the same.

Trisha Paytas (123:43)

His dad's Hawaiian, right? I mean he is of course, but I just didn't know. It's cool language. It's cool when people can speak. But like when he spoke like Dothraki, that's like not real. That's like Klingon or something. That's like a different made up language. But you have to learn. I guess my like that to that point is like you have to look. Learn a whole language is you have to learn the throckey. Even though it's like not real.

Guest or Producer (124:02)

I think in that case they just learn the lines because you're not gonna.

Moses Hacmon (124:07)

Yeah, you're not like having a conversation.

Guest or Producer (124:08)

Like somebody made up a language, but it's not.

Trisha Paytas (124:10)

Why do they do that? And like Star Trek too. Like why are they making up languages? Why don't they just use a language that exists? Like in Passion of the Christ where they use Aramaic or something. That's a language that existed. So just use the language that existed at one point.

Guest or Producer (124:21)

Because these people did not exist. It's made up countries and species. Klingon is a made up species. So they made up a language for them.

Trisha Paytas (124:29)

But I mean he was a human in Game of Thrones, right? He was just like a human, but.

Guest or Producer (124:33)

Just another country that doesn't exist. Like so they made up a language for them.

Trisha Paytas (124:40)

What a talented actor though. He has brains too. Because how do you learn five languages like that? Like at least two languages or that's three languages he's spoken on film. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. To end. To act it like, you have to act like. Like you don't know what it means, but you have to act it out. Like, yeah, I don't know. Adam Sandler's on tour. I think he's gonna be in Vegas, November. Tana keeps talking about going. Everyone says it's a good show. Everyone who's seen him said he's like, really funny. I never see clips online though. You always see clips from like Jonas Brothers. I never see clips of Adam Sandler.

Guest or Producer (125:11)

We saw years ago, like clips of Adam Sandler.

Trisha Paytas (125:14)

I guess that we've seen the song.

Guest or Producer (125:15)

I Want a Girl songs, maybe a few.

Trisha Paytas (125:17)

But not like we see now for tours. I wonder if you can't film. I don't know.

Guest or Producer (125:28)

It's probably. Probably an older. Mostly an older crowd and not Tick Tockers. So they're just not posting on Tick.

Trisha Paytas (125:33)

Tock, Michaela and Tana.

Moses Hacmon (125:34)

But I also feel like it's harder note to record like someone telling a joke versus someone you know singing a lot like, you know, like Sabrina Carpenter or singing like an iconic line of like, that's that me espresso. Like that's an iconic thing that like anyone will know when like versus a joke. It's longer.

Trisha Paytas (125:49)

Right? That's true.

Moses Hacmon (125:50)

It's hard to get like the gist of it.

Trisha Paytas (125:53)

Right. You just post the whole thing on me and I guess on TikTok live.

Moses Hacmon (125:55)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (125:56)

Yeah, that's probably true. Mikayla looked good though. She was. She was in her confidence. Error again. She's back to being like, I like my dress and I don't care what you have to say about it. And I love that. I love that confidence. I love that era of her. I know it's gaudy. I know it is, but I like it. And then she like, which purse should I wear? This is where I'm asking your opinion. You can tell me if this purse is ugly, but don't tell me if my dress is ugly because I didn't ask. Ask.

Guest or Producer (126:18)

I think she has. I think she has a calendar that has her moods and she's like, today I'm going to be this. Today I'm going to.

Trisha Paytas (126:23)

I like it. You know what?

Guest or Producer (126:25)

It seems to be like very it's.

Trisha Paytas (126:27)

Girl, babe, you wouldn't understand. Some days you just love everything you're wearing in about yourself, and then some days you just want to cry. I get you, Michaela. Always have, always will. Oh, some of the comments, like, I don't know why you're defending Michaela. I was like, oh, my. I'm so sorry. I don't know. Just. I see it. I see her as a girl just trying to navigate the influencer world. But she looked really pretty. She was going out to dinner with her family before the Adam Sandler concert. She said she was gonna wear sweatpants because that's, like, what he wears. But she was going out to dinner, so she wanted to put on a nice dress that looked very Bridgerton Vibes, which Bridgerton is coming out soon. It's coming out this year. Oh, no. Next year. Damn it. I thought it was this year.

Guest or Producer (127:01)

Way too long.

Trisha Paytas (127:02)

It's way too long. It's eight episodes. Netflix. Like, how. How does it take two and a half years to make eight episodes?

Moses Hacmon (127:11)

Stranger Things has been, like, four years.

Trisha Paytas (127:13)

Oh, my gosh. Why? Why did they take so long?

Moses Hacmon (127:19)

I know. Is it the strike? Was it the strike the season before or this season? Oh, maybe this, the season three.

Trisha Paytas (127:28)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (127:29)

Okay, then. Honestly, I don't know. They really do take their time, though. I miss the traditional, like, way of TV, you know, like.

Trisha Paytas (127:35)

Like 52 episodes a year. Yeah, me too. Like Desperate Housewives. They were given, like, 35 episodes a year, and I was like, this is what we need each season.

Moses Hacmon (127:42)

Oh, that reminds me, I never asked your thoughts about Jonathan Bailey retiring from acting.

Trisha Paytas (127:49)

Love it. Because he's wanting to be philanthropic, or is that right? He's trying to help animals. What's he doing?

Moses Hacmon (127:56)

I thought it was. He was focusing on his foundation. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (127:58)

Yes, that's right. What is this charity called again? I love it. It's a good called cause, isn't it?

Moses Hacmon (128:02)

For LGBT or. No.

Trisha Paytas (128:03)

Yes, it's called. It's the one he does all the way. They collapse. Yeah, Shoot. We always talk about it, too.

Moses Hacmon (128:09)

The Shameless Fund.

Trisha Paytas (128:10)

The Shameless Fund, yeah. He wants to do more work with that, which I love. Like, that's. Yes. Honestly, I love it for a number of reasons. One, I love that you just want to, like, do good and, like, focus on, like, helping others when you're like, bless her so much. I love that. I also, like, love, like, it could never be me, like, taking a break from the public to, like, make them miss me, but I think that's so, like. Like, that's what people have long term. Right. It's like when you miss someone and it's like they come back. Even the whole Jacob Elordi of it all. I'm not like a huge Jacob Elordi like fan, but it is exciting to see him like come up with projects because I'm just like, well, I liked him in the bath water. What was the bathwater one called? Saltburn. Salt water. Bath water at Saltburn. Like, you know, it's fun to see. Or like, was it Mark Robbie who said she like takes a break, she don't want people to get sick of her?

Moses Hacmon (128:50)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (128:51)

As Pete Davidson said, like the Patrick Pascal effect is like if you're everywhere, people like get sick of you and they can't miss you. And I think with Jonathan Bailey, granted, I don't think he's like all over the place again our faces, you know, he kind of does like huge projects and that's like it. But I like it. I like it. I think it's good. Especially with like Bridgerton coming out next year. He won't need to work. Like we'll see him, you know what I mean? Like we see his work. He already did the work for it, so I can appreciate it. And I saw him on Time magazine's cover. He was. There was a couple different covers, right? It was, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (129:20)

The time 11 time 100 next like.

Trisha Paytas (129:23)

The coming of which is crazy because I feel like Jonathan Bailey's established.

Moses Hacmon (129:27)

That's what I was thinking too. I was like, I see an up.

Trisha Paytas (129:29)

And comer because some of the other people I saw in there like seem like up and comers. He seems pretty well established. He's like Emmy nominated.

Moses Hacmon (129:36)

Him two franchises.

Trisha Paytas (129:38)

Yeah, yeah. Like could be Oscar. Yeah. And I love when people can take a break for themselves. He has been everywhere. He was giving feet on the Time magazine cover.

Moses Hacmon (129:49)

He really was. That's the first thing I saw. Those dogs were out and you don't love a foot.

Trisha Paytas (129:54)

I like a foot. I'm not like sexually in defeat, but I do like a foot.

Moses Hacmon (129:57)

I'm neutral. I think I don't really.

Trisha Paytas (130:00)

But you noticed it.

Moses Hacmon (130:01)

I did. Well, I think he wanted us to notice his feet. They were like out. Out front and center.

Trisha Paytas (130:07)

I'm weirdly sometimes if I have nice feet, I really like feet and I. But people come for me when I show like feet cuz like, oh my God, for free. Trisha. But I'm like, what are you supposed to cut them off at the ankles? Like I love a little foot moment. Like, I don't know, Like I like. It feels comfortable. It feels grounding. If you see someone's feet, you know, it doesn't feel like you're gonna, like, step on them or.

Moses Hacmon (130:27)

Yeah, maybe that's how Jonathan Bailey feels because he also had his. He wore his flip flops a lot on the Jurassic World. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (130:36)

He just wants to be comfy.

Moses Hacmon (130:37)

Yeah. Although, weirdly, I this. When he was doing press, when it came out on DVD or DVD on digital and Blu Ray, it was like. Like, no. No sandals question. No more sandals questions. Which. Maybe he got sick of being asked about his feet.

Trisha Paytas (130:52)

Wait, really? That was one of the.

Moses Hacmon (130:54)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (130:54)

Oh, that's so interesting. But that's kind of fun. First of all, I never even saw anyone asked.

Moses Hacmon (130:57)

People did, I think when he first wore his sandals, like, to that first Jurassic premiere.

Trisha Paytas (131:02)

That's so funny.

Moses Hacmon (131:03)

Yeah. But he must have got sick of being asked about his toes.

Trisha Paytas (131:07)

Well, and they're comfy. Sandals are comfy. What, did Ariana Grande write a little blurb for him? She said she first met him when they did the dance rehearsals for Wicked. And she said she was, like, nervous.

Moses Hacmon (131:18)

Oh, there was a new teaser. Teaser or scene at Wicked for good today.

Trisha Paytas (131:22)

The final teaser, they said, till the movie comes out.

Moses Hacmon (131:25)

My conspiracy theory is that you're Dorothy because you said you got your dream role.

Trisha Paytas (131:31)

I can't confirm.

Moses Hacmon (131:33)

And they only show Dorothy's, like, legs. I mean, it could be you.

Trisha Paytas (131:38)

That's why you don't see my cabs here for a reason. I do not want to give it away, but you just never know. You still have to go watch. You'll have to go and watch. It looks so good. I am so happy for this movie. I just wanted to be hyped more. Like. I know it's, like, hyped, but I want to be hyped even more. Like, I want, like, burger king meals, McDonald's meals. Like, I want them, like, everywhere. Arby's meals. Like, I want everything wicked. I want green and pink. Everything.

Moses Hacmon (132:01)

I think it's coming. I saw they already had Wicked dog treats where I think pets, Petco pets.

Trisha Paytas (132:08)

I have not seen anything Wicked.

Moses Hacmon (132:10)

I've seen a lot already and it's. Yeah. I feel like once we get closer to it, probably in a couple weeks.

Trisha Paytas (132:17)

Like, here we're in October now. It's, like, gonna be next month. Like, it's. It should be. It should be happening.

Moses Hacmon (132:22)

I already see the cereals. I already see the.

Trisha Paytas (132:25)

Well, those were. I think, like, they are out again. But I think they had them last year.

Moses Hacmon (132:27)

They did.

Trisha Paytas (132:28)

Because even the cupcake mixes.

Moses Hacmon (132:30)

Yes. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (132:31)

So we need Something new. We need something fresh.

Moses Hacmon (132:33)

But they did just so much. Like, what else is left?

Trisha Paytas (132:35)

Like this. Is it the same thing? Popcorn buckets. We had 500 popcorn buckets come out. No, they really need to get on it more. I would love to see more of all the cast. Like, I love, like Glinda Elbow. I want to see more Tin Man.

Guest or Producer (132:46)

They have pots. Wicked pots.

Trisha Paytas (132:49)

Is it wicked? Does it say wicked on it? Or just pink and green? Cuz we have a pink one like that.

Guest or Producer (132:52)

No, it has. It has. It has either Glinda, the pink one and the green one has the done and done.

Trisha Paytas (133:00)

We have. You know how much I love leaving pots. Those are my favorite thing in the whole world. We cook our noodles, we cook our lasagna, our ziti. Like Leg Crusades.

Guest or Producer (133:09)

They're so heavy.

Trisha Paytas (133:10)

They are so heavy. I have Moses get them out. I'm like, can't get the yellow one out.

Guest or Producer (133:13)

Just to get one out, you have to.

Trisha Paytas (133:14)

Ooh. But how good is the sauces when we make the Mac and cheese in that yellow Lake Crusade at Thanksgiving time? Like, you make great sauces in there. We gotta order it. Is it for sale? Can you order it right now? Put it on Apple Pay.

Guest or Producer (133:24)

Yes. It's shop now.

Trisha Paytas (133:26)

Oh, my God. We need to get them before they're sold out. Hurry. I hate it.

Guest or Producer (133:30)

I see the previous one. We have the pumpkin. We have all that.

Trisha Paytas (133:33)

Oh, my. I know. I love a La Crusade.

Moses Hacmon (133:35)

We have so many colors, but luxury.

Trisha Paytas (133:39)

Pan, we should actually. Yes, I think you're right. Patreon, sign up for it. We'll give you a tour of our pots and pans.

Guest or Producer (133:48)

When it comes to cookie, you have to invest in the tools.

Trisha Paytas (133:51)

Yeah. We got William Sonoma steak knives. Now we're going to get Glinda, Le Creuset, and Elphaba. Okay. That's fun. Honestly, so hyped. I love, I love when brands just, like, get in, like, random. Like, why is Le Creuset during Wicked? But the base travel luggage I got last year, like, anything pink and green I was getting, I was like. And it's my favorite luggage to travel with. I'm excited. Yeah. You know, see it.

Moses Hacmon (134:11)

Yeah, of course. Looking for good. Is that right? Yes, of course.

Trisha Paytas (134:15)

I didn't know you were gagged like that.

Moses Hacmon (134:16)

I really loved the first one.

Trisha Paytas (134:18)

You did?

Moses Hacmon (134:19)

Yeah, I really loved it.

Trisha Paytas (134:20)

Oh, I feel like you were just like, underplaying it then. Like, you didn't talk about it that much. You weren't like, like you weren't screaming, gagging, like, you know Like I thought. Wow. I didn't know.

Moses Hacmon (134:30)

Yes. I love the first one. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (134:32)

We do more Wicked theme stuff this year then too. I know. We try to do Universal. Maybe they'll do it again this year.

Moses Hacmon (134:36)

Oh, yeah. With the little. With all the food.

Trisha Paytas (134:38)

Yeah, that one we missed. So I would go to that one. Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah. They should do more here at Universal for it.

Moses Hacmon (134:45)

And Florida, they're doing the Wicked Land.

Trisha Paytas (134:47)

But no, at least you fly there. Well, no. Can't fly to Florida. It's a no fly zone for me. I don't know if that's a good thing.

Moses Hacmon (134:55)

I don't think it's.

Trisha Paytas (134:56)

No. Okay. Okay. Oh, no fly. Is that the bad thing? No fly list. No fly zone. I don't know. Not going, period. Not going to Florida. Sorry, Florida. But I'm here for it. And John the Bailey, I just love him. He looks great in the trailer. Can't wait to do all the cosplays. Arya, Ariana and Cynthia. Everyone looks great. The lion. You watched the wizard of Oz? The original?

Moses Hacmon (135:22)

I have as a kid, but I don't really remember it.

Trisha Paytas (135:25)

You weren't loving it.

Moses Hacmon (135:26)

Yeah, I didn't live for the wizard of Oz.

Trisha Paytas (135:28)

Remember Todrick hall would do like wizard of Oz videos like every week. He like, loved the wizard of Oz, but he's like, nowhere to be found for Wicked. I don't know. Maybe he is.

Moses Hacmon (135:35)

Oh, for Wicked.

Trisha Paytas (135:36)

Like, we never really see him do Wicked talks, huh?

Moses Hacmon (135:39)

Not that I know of. But keeping up with him like that, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (135:43)

That's what I think of when I think of a survivor. I think I've had your call.

Moses Hacmon (135:46)

I have one quick one and then Jojo. And they're both pretty quick, actually. Did you see Landon McBroom talking about how he does not want to be a stepfather?

Trisha Paytas (135:55)

What?

Moses Hacmon (135:55)

Oh, you didn't see that? Oh, he was.

Trisha Paytas (135:58)

Oh, Landon or Austin. The brother.

Moses Hacmon (136:02)

The brother.

Trisha Paytas (136:03)

Yeah, Austin, like.

Moses Hacmon (136:05)

But he's.

Trisha Paytas (136:06)

He's a dad, Landon.

Moses Hacmon (136:07)

He's a dad. Yeah. And he was on, I think a Tik tok live with his girlfriend and he was saying how he would not want to be a he. First of all, he said, and I know all men think like this, like, we do not want to be stepfathers. Like, the thought of our, like, woman having like a kid with someone else and then that their dad is like always in our lives. Like, oh, then you're in a three way relationship and he has a daughter and his current girlfriend basically is in. If they got married, would Be like a stepmom. But he thinks it's fine for like a woman to be a stepmom, but not for a man to be a stepdad. He doesn't believe in it.

Trisha Paytas (136:45)

Did he explain why it was okay for a woman to be a step mom? Then what was his like?

Moses Hacmon (136:48)

He said it's a man thing, like, where it's like, I don't want my woman. It was very like, possessive. It was like, I don't want my woman to like, you know, come into a relationship and have like, be tied to another man, basically. And I. And my inference too is like the idea of her. This is me implying from what is being said, obviously. But the idea that like a woman, she is almost like less than because she already had a baby with someone else. So she loses some of that, like.

Trisha Paytas (137:14)

Right? Yeah, like worth or something like that.

Moses Hacmon (137:17)

Yes, yes. But just so like. And like his girlfriend was like calling him out on it too. He's like, he like, you know, that sounds kind of crazy. And she was like, being respectful. She's like, you know, everyone's had to own opinion. But you do realize that does sound crazy because you have a daughter.

Trisha Paytas (137:31)

Yeah, like, run, girl, run. Like, don't. Like, like you heard the opinion. Like, what do you mean? Like, if my divorce, separation before they're married. Like, I don't know what it is, like, so crazy. I don't know how. Yeah, like, she knows. She knows what he's saying is so, like. Because that's like a level of stupidity. Stupidity that I'd be like, scared that it would be contagious or something, you know, like, that I'm gonna get it. That my. My kids would get it. It also plays such a toxic mentality. He has a daughter.

Moses Hacmon (137:59)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (138:00)

Like, talking talent for anybody's kids to like, hear or be around. Because if that's what you truly think in your heart and hearts, and you're saying it with your whole chest, like it's gonna be absorbed by the next generation. And then they're gonna think some type of way too, being like, oh, like, stop, kid. It's like, what? Like, things don't work out. Like, you just don't understand, like, why there would be step.

Moses Hacmon (138:18)

Like, especially with a kid already.

Trisha Paytas (138:20)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (138:20)

Like, wouldn't you want your daughter to have like a good stepdad if, like, you know, she's gonna remarry? And it's all so weird to me.

Trisha Paytas (138:29)

I think they're just missing a few screws, that family. I really do. Because, like, what do you mean? You Think this. And what do you mean you're saying this? Because it just doesn't make sense. Like I'm trying to think like logically, like where it's coming from. I'm like, what's. I don't get the logic that like a woman is like less. I would say she's more value. Value because she like knows how to take care of another human. Like she's taking care of two lives now. So she's more responsible, she's more equipped. You know what I mean? As. As someone who, when I didn't have kids, I wasn't as equipped to take care of myself or other people. So in a way she could take care. She's more of a caregiver. I don't know, it's just like. I don't get like the logic. Like that makes it worse.

Moses Hacmon (139:03)

And the other thing I was thinking too is like he can only love the child because. Because it's like him, like his DNA, you know, Like Jeanette, genetically his, like it belongs to him. So that's why he could love it. Versus like if you have a stepchild, it doesn't belong, but a child doesn't. Like it's not property, you know, it's all like so off. Like the ownership thing is so.

Trisha Paytas (139:21)

That's weird. Yeah, that's like almost like an evil spirit that's almost demonic because you're just like. What do you mean? It's like a child. Like even your own child. Like if we, we have our own child with a sperm and egg, like it's still like, it's like. I don't know how to explain it. Like it's its own, it's his own entity, it's its own being. Like it's not like it's our child, cuz it's our child and we're the mother and father. But it's like if you adopt a child, like it's still your child. Cuz you like, it's how you nurture it, it's how you care for it. But that's like the child itself is its own being.

Moses Hacmon (139:47)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (139:47)

So it's like if you care for your child, your daughter, your biological child, why can't you care for another like child that's a human? It's. It's the exact same thing.

Moses Hacmon (139:56)

It's that.

Trisha Paytas (139:57)

And it's a weird. That's such a.

Moses Hacmon (139:59)

Such a weird way scary.

Trisha Paytas (140:00)

Like if I was her, I'd be like, that's weird. Like why would you think about another child? It's like, well it's not mine.

Moses Hacmon (140:04)

Yeah, it's so. And I'm like, does he have. I was. Does he have fans? Like, are.

Trisha Paytas (140:09)

No. First of all, no, because the only reason you said that, the first thing I thought was awesome. And then he said Landon. I'm like, oh, I know. He got in drama a while ago. I don't know, a messy divorce or I think maybe the Catherine stuff. Yeah, the Catherine. And she was defending Landon. I don't know. I didn't know them. So I think he really is famous by association and needs to just stay anonymous. Maybe because you're saying stupid stuff and it's, like, so stupid. And your kids are gonna hear it and, like, shout out.

Moses Hacmon (140:39)

Also your brother who got you famous. Like, his kids now have a stepfather.

Trisha Paytas (140:45)

Like, literally now officially 1, 2 around my kids. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (140:50)

So weird.

Trisha Paytas (140:51)

And it's. She has a kid. His. His fiance.

Moses Hacmon (140:55)

No, but she, like, helps with, like, the dog. Yeah. So she would be a stepmom mom. So he is fine with her essentially being a stepmom, but not.

Trisha Paytas (141:01)

That makes me feel a little better. I thought she had a kid. And he's like, saying this. So I'm like, okay, that's crazy. But she doesn't. So I guess.

Moses Hacmon (141:07)

Yeah, it was just like, he would not even date someone who had a child basically because he doesn't want to.

Trisha Paytas (141:13)

It's giving.

Moses Hacmon (141:13)

And she was kind of like, well, I could understand if you were childless thinking that, but.

Trisha Paytas (141:17)

Right, right. Totally.

Moses Hacmon (141:19)

Yeah. Having a child. And then he also said, I just am not mature. Like, he's like, I'm not mature enough to do that. But.

Trisha Paytas (141:24)

But you have a child, you better get mature. Like, I agree with you. If you don't have kids, I'm kind of with it. Yes. It's very difficult to adjust to a child lifestyle when you don't have kids because, like, it's just hard. Some people can. And some people are great. Like, I had such a horrible step parent experience, like, horrific, that, like, I. The idea of a step parent is. Sounds awful to me, but I know there's so many people, like, so many people in my life that are like, no, My stepmom, like, saved my relationship with my dad. My stepmom or stepdad, like, helped our family. My stepdad adopted me. Like, they. They do come in, like. And I do think, oh, we knew someone, actually, the person who helped us with security. Like, he met his wife when she was, like, six months postpartum, and it wasn't his biological kid, but, like, ended up raising him. And now he's like 25, just graduated school, like, whatever. I was like, that's pretty. Pretty amazing to, like, just step in. It's actually more amazing to, like, the step parents who step in and actually help the children. Like, that's because. Yeah, a lot of people. You know what? Sadly, a lot of people probably have that mentality. As someone who's experienced with lots of different step parents in my life, like, a lot of people probably think that, like, you're not my kid. Like, you're someone else's kid, and that's when you get the evil one. So this sounds like an evil one to me. So I don't know. But you do have a child, so you might need to, like, mature it up and, like, start thinking in a different mindset. Because, like, you said, his. Whoever had his child, the baby mama is probably gonna, like, get married at some point or have a man or a woman in their life. Life. And it's like, psycho hot. Say, run, girl. But you know, you do you. Yeah, my opinion.

Moses Hacmon (142:51)

And JoJo Siwa was performing at her concert, and she had to stop the show.

Trisha Paytas (142:58)

She's back on tour.

Moses Hacmon (142:59)

I think she's performing. It was. It seemed like a smaller show. Okay, do you want to know why she for. You're gonna. You're gonna be. This actually took me out. It was so funny. I need to stop the show because too many people were taking selfies with Chris. What's his last name? Chris Hughes. And she's like, that's my man. You can't be. You can't be taking selfies with him.

Trisha Paytas (143:23)

Oh, my God. Was she serious?

Moses Hacmon (143:26)

She was dead.

Guest or Producer (143:28)

But where is he? Just down on the floor with everyone.

Trisha Paytas (143:30)

Yeah, that is kind of weird, too.

Moses Hacmon (143:31)

I imagine he's probably like, I only saw the video of JoJo stopping the crowd, but I imagine he's probably, like, in that little sound booth thing because it was like, you know, one of the smaller venues, you know. Yeah, that's like, in the middle of it. But too many people were taking selfies with him during the show, and she didn't like that he. That they were taking, A, taking selfies with him and then B, distracting him from her show because she wants him to, like, enjoy the JoJo show. Oh, my God, the show. She said, I know we all love Chris Hughes, but he's my boyfriend and I want him to watch my show. Show. If he turns around to take another selfie, I'm gonna have to restart, so don't do that.

Trisha Paytas (144:06)

Restart.

Moses Hacmon (144:07)

She said, you can take a picture from afar. You can video him watching, but let the guy watch.

Trisha Paytas (144:12)

Oh, my God. Sounds a little controlling. Jojo, we love you, but this sounds a little. A little controlling. It took me out not giving the rules. You can take a video of him. Why don't we put him on side stage? Jojo, why don't we have a watching there? Like, you know, like, that's. Oh, no. Like, love the love, but also scary. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Okay. They stop. Do they commence?

Guest or Producer (144:43)

Okay. It's funny because she's talking to him, but she doesn't want to. So she bosses everyone around here. Basically, she was saying, chris, stop taking selfies. Look at me.

Trisha Paytas (144:52)

Yeah, I'm kind of cute, I guess, as she opens you to watch, like, watch kind of cute, but also scary.

Guest or Producer (145:00)

Also can't imagine being in the audience because it is distracting if it's her show and they know it's giving Travis.

Trisha Paytas (145:06)

Cassie, like, the eras tour when people were, like, videoing him. So it's giving that. I don't think that's necessarily, like, the big issue, but because, yeah, he wants to enjoy the show from, you know, watching the show. I guess side stage, you're not seeing as much of it. But I love.

Moses Hacmon (145:21)

I can imagine Taylor being like, everyone, I know you're excited to see Travis here, but come on, he's here to watch me. You guys.

Trisha Paytas (145:31)

Okay? Because, I mean, I'm sure the majority were watching her. Like, a few people just are not like, yeah, it's giving weird. You're a power couple, babe. Like, this is what it entails. Like, if you're a power couple, they're gonna want pictures with him. That's why Moses start taking pictures. He'll say no to people. I mean, people are gonna think they're. I'm asking you to say no to people. He's like, no, if with. I'm like, you are. We have. We're on. Huh?

Guest or Producer (145:53)

I always clarified it. I always said it on my own accord. It's not.

Trisha Paytas (145:57)

Well, I'm going to be the opposite of Jojo. You can take pictures with Moses.

Guest or Producer (146:01)

You're s me around like Moses over there. If you. That's what I'm saying. Go take pictures both way.

Trisha Paytas (146:08)

It sounds c for sure. But yeah, I don't know. I, I, I would be. I love, I think it's cute. I'm like, oh, I love if people ask you. I think that's cute because you are on the podcast. He's like, well, I'm not on social media. I'm like, well, you're literally on the podcast. So you are on social media. But yeah, I mean, do what you want, but crazy to be like, don't do it. You know, I would love her to restart the show. That's everything.

Moses Hacmon (146:28)

I know people, but we want more.

Trisha Paytas (146:30)

Yeah. Let's start from the top, everybody. Where was that? She in the uk. Okay. I like that for her. She's like touring.

Guest or Producer (146:41)

That's hometown. She was people what to do in his hometown.

Trisha Paytas (146:44)

Right, right.

Moses Hacmon (146:46)

Oh, it was kicking off her European Infinity Heart tour in Dublin, Ireland.

Trisha Paytas (146:51)

Oh, okay, that makes sense. Yes. The Irish girls are trying to get them. I know. I watch Derry girls. I know how it goes down. She's like, oh, gotta watch em. Or the Derry boys. They're all. Adam McIntyre, I believe is from Derry. Let's get his opinion. Opera statement.

Moses Hacmon (147:11)

Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (147:11)

Was he there? Is he in Derry or is he in Ireland now?

Moses Hacmon (147:19)

Or is he there? I think he lives in. I think he lives in Brighton. Where is Brighton?

Trisha Paytas (147:26)

Sounds like Irish.

Moses Hacmon (147:29)

It sounds like where Zoella is from.

Trisha Paytas (147:31)

That's uk. That's England. Brighton.

Moses Hacmon (147:33)

I think it is in England. Oh, yeah, right, the seaside. Yeah, it's a seaside town in England. Yeah. I think Zoella is from there.

Trisha Paytas (147:42)

And that's where Adam Magnitar is.

Moses Hacmon (147:43)

I think he moved. Yeah, I think he lives there.

Trisha Paytas (147:45)

Wow. All right. He said buy to Ireland. Well, I like to think it's all just propaganda to go see Jojo on tour. Just see what antics I'll come up with next. And here we are talking about her as the final story. Our final girl, if you will. We. We love you. I love you, JoJo. Okay, I'll speak for myself. I love you. Everyone at home, we love you. Very excited for next week's episode and the week after. We have a very exciting couple weeks coming up and I think you guys will be very excited too. And it's not just the new RVs launch. There's more coming. Although I'm very excited for the new Arby's launch as well. So thank you guys for being here and we'll see you over on the Patreon. Patreon.com Just Trish. Goodbye. Have a great weekend.