Oct 06, 2025

Summary

Just Trish – Episode Summary

Podcast: Just Trish
Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-Host: Oscar Gracey
Date: October 7, 2025
Episode Description: Trisha and Oscar return for a hilariously unfiltered conversation on internet drama, celebrity hot topics, the politics of podcasting, viral TikTok trends, the evolution of pop stars, AI controversies, the “classic” debate in movies and TV, and a healthy serving of chaotic food reviews—plus firsthand musings on parenting, body image, and influencer accountability.

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Overview

This episode of Just Trish delivers a signature blend of pop culture commentary, inside scoop on social media trends, and brutal honesty about the highs and lows of influencer life. Trisha and Oscar, joined by Moses, jump between topics with high energy and plenty of sidebars, discussing everything from podcast award snubs, recent pop star kerfuffles, and their own daily lives, all wrapped up in their relatable, comedic banter.

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Main Topics and Key Discussions

1. Podcast Award Nominations and Industry Observations (01:19 – 07:11)

• Frustration with Mainstream Dominance: Trisha and Oscar lament the Golden Globes “podcast shortlist” that heavily favors already-famous celebrities and legacy media over digital-first creators.

  "Everyone wants to be a podcaster. But it's just anybody who's already mainstream… Amy Poehler, which we love—just like people… I did love Call Her Daddy, I loved Rotten Mango on there, but that's it. There was nothing else relevant."
  — Trisha, [01:19]

• Notable Snubs: Discussion of the absence of independently run or queer podcasts from the list.

  "No Bald and the Beautiful. Like, I feel like that's so impactful. Like, there is not one queer one on there…"
  — Trisha, [04:54]

• Category Critique: Moses points out the need for more genre-based categories, not just mixing news, comedy, and lifestyle together.

  "They can’t do it because it’s like doing just a podcast category—it’s like just saying TV. So it’s like news and comedy… it should be like news, comedy, and lifestyle at least…"
  — Moses, [06:14]

2. Arby’s Steak Bite Taste Test, Sponsored Content, and Authenticity (08:22 – 12:34)

• Food Segment: The trio indulge in Arby’s steak bites and curly fries, with classic Trish enthusiasm.

  “This literally feels like a commercial—I promise you it’s not. I’m just, like, really excited.”
  — Trisha, [11:07]

• Sponsorship Transparency: Trisha is clear about what’s sponsored and what isn’t, reflecting on her genuine long-running love for Arby’s.

  “We’re not sponsored on the podcast, but I am doing the campaign. …I’ve been doing mukbangs for you guys for 15 years, so this is authentic."
  — Trisha, [09:08]

3. Current Pop Culture: Taylor Swift Controversies & Swiftie Discourse (16:48 – 30:06)

• Oscar’s Swifty Experience: Oscar recounts his attendance at a YouTube event and describes the intense online debates among Swifties over Taylor’s newest album and movie.

  "Who knew being a Swiftie was more controversial than politics at this point?"
  — Oscar, [16:54]

• Trisha’s Relationship with Pop Critiques: Trisha admits to being influenced by crowd opinions and not always “getting” the art—she listens for the vibes.

  "I listen to what people are saying, right? …So, same thing album. I really was like… I don’t know, I can’t comprehend the lyrics. I’m always just kind of gagged. For the vibes, right?"
  — Trisha, [22:17]

• On Taylor’s Lyrics and Age: They break down fan reactions to Taylor's perceived lyric “immaturity” versus her real-life age, and Oscar contextualizes similar backlashes to Taylor’s previous singles.

  "People are running that this is, like, the biggest flop... But I've lived through this a million times. …She had a good run of, like, a five-year, relatively… adored. And it's just that pendulum effect."
  — Oscar, [27:26]

4. Addison Rae Praise and Pop Star Evolution (31:18 – 36:54)

• Addison Rae’s Trajectory: Trisha, with outspoken admiration, details Addison’s resilience, unique pop star energy, and self-awareness.

  “She’s like on a little, like, press run right now… The gag for me was always like, oh, she’s like a TikToker. ...But she’s consistently good. Like, in the Ed Gein thing, I watched her scenes and I was like, she's so good... there’s something about her. Love."
  — Trisha, [32:01 – 33:20]

• Reflections on Generational Pop Icons: Connections drawn between Addison, Sabrina Carpenter, and Britney Spears in the context of Y2K references and celebrity forgiveness.

5. Nepotism Babies on TikTok & Self-Awareness (39:48 – 44:13)

• Nepo Babies Trends: Funny and affectionate takes on Sofia Coppola’s daughter Romy Mars, Jack White's daughter Scarlet, and Martin Scorsese’s daughter Francesca—poking fun at TikTok content and public fascinations.

  "I love a Nepo Baby. And Romy Mars… Would be me if I was a Nepo baby—forcing Jacob Elordi to be in my TikTok."
  — Oscar, [40:43]

• Names and Hyphenation Tangent: Trisha, Moses, and Oscar drift into a playful, lightly absurd discussion on surnames, legacy, and how they see themselves in Hollywood lineage.

6. Body Image, Metabolism, and Motherhood as Content (55:56 – 60:01)

• Genetic Privilege & Struggle: Conversations on Trisha and Moses’ differing metabolisms, aging, stretch marks, and the realities of body change post-motherhood—all with humor and candor.

  "That to me, I think that's winning the lottery in life… If I eat chocolate, I literally gain five pounds."
  — Trisha, [56:26]

• Normalizing Body Differences: Acknowledgment that everyone’s journey is different, with a mix of practical acceptance and self-deprecating humor.

7. AI: Deepfakes, Voice Rights, and the Future of Art (71:17 – 77:17)

• Jake Paul AI Memes: Discussion of AI-generated Jake Paul content going viral, raising questions about likeness, consent, and the weirdness of digital fame. Moses and Oscar debate whether Jake is in on the joke or a victim of the AI app’s marketing.

  "It looks so real. That's so scary."
  — Trisha, [72:38]

• Celebrity Voice Lawsuits: Reference to Scarlett Johansson’s real-life legal win over AI voice replication, tying it back to her film Her.

• Existential Concerns: Pondering whether humans will be “replaced” by AI in entertainment and creative arts.

8. Classic Films, Nostalgia, and Sitcoms (64:33 – 80:27)

• Originality Crisis: Lament that film and TV classics aren’t being made anymore—all sequels, prequels, and remakes.

  "It is crazy that, like, we don't make, like, original classics anymore... Everything’s sequels or prequels or remakes."
  — Trisha, [64:37]

• Sitcom Revival Musings: Nostalgic love for sitcoms like Big Bang Theory; Trisha jokes that she’d love to act in one, and praises the writing and performances of classic ensemble casts.

9. Influencer Accountability: Lila Gibney Discourse (115:24 – 128:14)

• Story Exposal: Moses and Oscar recap the latest TikTok drama surrounding Lila Gibney and allegations of influencer “scamming” and theft. Discussion focuses on the nuances of calling out bad behavior without piling on or inciting hate, especially for LGBTQ+ creators.

  "I told the line with this because… I really don't want to have, like, any more… I don't love trans hate. It can be dangerous, whatever. So I didn't want to get too in the weeds… It's just hard."
  — Trisha, [116:16]

• Notable Quote:

  “At what point do you just leave? You can't stay with somebody that mistreats you and then complain endlessly... get a cheap motel, be by yourself.” — Moses, [121:02]

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I'm kind of also just not that deep. Like her other songs... I was kind of like, is that what that means? ... I'm just for the vibes.”
  — Trisha, [22:17]

• “We really are a Just Trish walking advertisement today. And Arby's. I love it.”
  — Trisha, [09:24]

• "Truth is, everyone has different metabolism... What was I blessed with? I don't know. Let me honestly..."
  — Trisha, [57:16]

• “I love when I can, like, hold a mirror to myself with other influencers... If people want to work out, actually I'm excited for them. You know what? Good for them.”
  — Trisha, [92:10]

• “I hope he's always in the midst of all this, too. Like, the Ace Family drama, like, you're there, and I know you know, congrats on your sobriety and just keep going forward.”
  — Trisha, [127:31]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Podcast Snubs & Golden Globes Rant: 01:19–07:11
• Arby’s Food Review: 08:22–12:34
• Taylor Swift Drama & Fan Discourse: 16:48–30:06
• Addison Rae Stan Segment: 31:18–36:54
• Nepo Babies & TikTok: 39:48–44:13
• Body Image & Motherhood: 55:56–60:01
• AI and Digital Celebrity: 71:17–77:17
• Classic Movie/Sitcom Nostalgia: 64:33–80:27
• Lila Gibney Drama: 115:24–128:14

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Tone and Language

The conversation is lively, irreverent, and deeply intertwined with influencer culture and social media references. Trisha and Oscar are candid about their preferences, neuroses, and opinions, often jumping between deeply silly tangents and nuanced social crit, in a way that keeps listeners guessing and frequently laughing. Moses chimes in as the understated voice of reason, especially during heavier discussions.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The “mainstreaming” of podcasts is leaving out the digital creators who made the space thrive.
• Pop culture icons (from Taylor Swift to Addison Rae) are subjected to increasingly dramatic social media scrutiny, and even the hosts feel torn between analysis and “just vibing.”
• The rise of AI in digital entertainment is as eerie as it is fascinating, and it’s already raising legal and ethical dilemmas for celebrities.
• Influencer life remains a whirlwind of striving for relevance, maintaining boundaries, and navigating accountability—sometimes all at once.
• Amid all the chaos, the strongest message is empathy, self-awareness, and the ability to find humor—even in the messiest moments.

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For extended bonus content and unfiltered chat, Trisha and Oscar are moving the leftovers (as well as mozzarella sticks) to Patreon. “See you there!”

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I'm like, I am obsessed with her. I love her. I love her.

[Oscar]

Did you reply to her dm?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Okay, that's fine then. For some reason I'm thinking, oh, like he's like close to 50.

[Oscar]

Joe Keery. Close to 50.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of bright is the hair.

[Oscar]

Well, speaking of JoJo.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no more JoJo. Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all the gossip. Filthy rich R topic queen and says what everybody thinks. She's just strange. Yay. Hello. Welcome back. Missed you guys so much. I feel like we should podcast every single day. Oh, do you daily podcast? We're both early risers, right? We both go to the gym in the morning and I feel like we just kind of come back and we like shower, we get ready and I just feel like I'm ready to just. Yeah, for like a couple hours and then get out of the way and then like, you know, just like bustle down at home and try not talk to anyone.

[Oscar]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I just feel like we need like a two hour gossip session every single day. Honestly.

[Oscar]

We always have something to talk about. Even when we feel like there's nothing to talk about, somehow there is something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because on our Wednesdays when we, when we do extended after today patreon.com Jess Trish we do an extended podcast and we are like, okay, we talked for two and a half hours, but we find something to talk about. Same thing with Wednesday. So then Wednesday comes around and we're even more like, okay, what happened this week? But then we end up doing like two or three more patreons for our bonus videos and we still talk. We just like yap so much. And then like over the weekend there's like a dry spell and like so much is happening and I want to send you tiktoks. I'm like, oh my God, would you see this? But I'm like, but that's kind of like work and like, you know, I don't know. I just like, I'm also just like, okay, let me not billable hours over the weekend. You know what I mean? Like the overtime. So I was like, let me as I was on a year input. I'm like, okay, what about this? Whatever. But I just really love, I really love a podcast and I feel like it's very giving. Like back in the day, whenever YouTuber was like, including me is like, I want a TV show, I want a movie. You know what I mean? Same with the podcasting. It's like, I want a Daytime talk show. But it's like, but everyone wants to be a podcaster. You know what I mean? We saw a list of the Golden Globes. Was it with their potential podcast nominees. They had the top 25. And it's just anybody who's already mainstream, like Amy Poehler, which we love. But it's just like people. I didn't talk Carlson. Like, just like. Like what? Like, I did love a collar, daddy. I loved a rotten mango on there. But like that's it. There was nothing else relevant.

[Oscar]

You know what? My mom also was very upset about that list. She said, I think you guys should be on there. Which I was like, what the moms know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And guess what? The moms are the ones that watch the Golden Globes. So I feel like they really need to reevaluate that list.

[Oscar]

I was gas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was lost. Culture is not on there, I don't think. Yeah. So I was like, what? We're. We're not on the Dax Shepard, you know, again, love, but like, it's just like I think mainstream people are just doing podcasts to get yemenam, you know?

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think especially like actors with podcasts. Like, okay, but you have the whole show for actors. Give it to someone else, you know, why not just.

[Trisha Paytas]

How about like a digital creator, you know, and even like a Jay Shoddy I'd be fine with because, you know, technically he's like an influencer. He's not like, you know, already acting and doing amazing things. It's like I feel like didn't Amy Poehler like host the Emmy? She's like the person, you know, she is the. Which we love again, we love but not like no shade to her, but like it's crazy because who are the other ones? What is like Joe Rogan 2020's been on for 50 years and I'm sure they've won some emmy or something.

[Oscar]

48 hours, armchair expert with Dax Shepard. Call Her Daddy. Candace Owens, crime junkie. Dateline NBC. Good Hang with Amy Poehler, Morbid Mr. Ballin podcast. Pardon my take pod, Save America, Rotten Mango, Sean Ryan show. Smart List. I think that's Jason Bateman's oh my gosh. Stuff you should know. Ben Shapiro show Bell, Bill Simmons Podcast. The Daily from the New York Times, the Joe Rogan Experience Megan Kelly Show, Mel Robbins, Tucker Carlson this past weekend with the Ovaugh. And up first from npr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, NPR being nominated in the podcast? That's so crazy.

[Moses]

All the awards. This one is the most with like a center to right wing podcasts of right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens. Like Joe Rogan.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like, this is the most I've ever heard in one chunk. Tucker and globes. Not Hollywood, is it?

[Oscar]

No, it's a Hollywood Foreign Press Association. But maybe, you know, Hollywood is swinging a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, or.

[Moses]

Or they go by numbers because they do dominate as far as numbers in the podcast charts. So maybe they're just going by the charts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they the top? I don't even know what the top is.

[Moses]

Yeah, they are. They definitely dominate the space as far as podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. No bald and the beautiful.

[Oscar]

No bald and the beautiful Trixie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I feel like that's so impactful. Like, there is not one queer one on there.

[Oscar]

I don't. Some of these I don't know. Like, I don't recognize.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think Bill Simmons is for the queers, you know, I don't know. Maybe, but I doubt it. You know, that's so weird. And like, one girly pop. Oh, two rotten Mango and crush her daddy. And I like, even polar show. I'm not even knocking her. So. Yeah, there's like three girly pops on there.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, what I mean, I mean, okay, like you said, I guess if they're going by numbers. But like, what have they ever gone by now? Like, that's so weird. Like, I, like, I am just sad that just Trisha or not Loveline, like, one of us. One of us is bound to get it. Like I am. I'm. Yeah, that is wild.

[Oscar]

Not even canceled. Like, right. Could have been a lot like, you know, sometimes they like to award a show that's like, for Emmys, like Game of Thrones winning its final season or whatever. Even though last season wasn't good. It's like they like to honor, you know, the last season of a show like, come on and canceled was on the charts. It was like number two. It was like Joe Rogan and canceled. So if not no one in the family.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is actually so crazy and like, sick and twisted. Isn't the Meg Kelly show just like a TV show? Right. I swear, she has a talk show. I'm like, what? What is happening? I was. I'm weirdly sad about it. And like you said, just like over the over. I'm just like, what? Like, I don't know. Ben Shapiro. I don't know.

[Moses]

You know, what's missing is that they can't do because it's like doing just a podcast category. It's like just saying tv. So it's like news and comedy. And you're right. Like, you can't mix all of those two together. It has to be like the charts on podcast. There's news podcasts over there. Most of them are news.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

So it should be like news, comedy and some. And. And I don't know, lifestyle. There has to be at least one more category, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

True crime. Because there's a couple. True crime, Electric crime is so big. Like you could have a whole true crime celebrity podcast. They should give all them the rock and Dax and all that. Like all them should be in celebrity podcasts, you know, because it's so hard to have like a successful podcast. I feel like, you know, like a canceled for instance, like they were getting like a million views or whatever and not be from like like the A list world. You know what I mean? Where it's like aimpoor can get A list guests obviously. But I. Yeah, you're right. And the political of it all, I'm just like. And like Dateline 2020, like those are TV shows for Emmys. Like why are they.

[Moses]

Yeah, they should not. But that's not fair. Yeah, because they can. Yeah, they can plug any TV show as a podcast now.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they have production, they have budget, they have like a crew of people. They should have one with only. Only a three person crew. Four person crew. Jimmy, do like, you know what I mean? Best editing on a podcast. You know, Jimmy, if he was not nominated for that, like they should have categories. They have best editing for TV shows.

[Oscar]

Come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, I don't know how.

[Moses]

I mean, I think over the years it will evolve because it is ridiculous. It's like saying radio like it's not. It's just not.

[Trisha Paytas]

NPR is crazy. All right, well, good luck. Well, they're not really officially nominated. Right? That's just the short list.

[Oscar]

The short list. Yeah. I think it'll go down to like six, six to eight, I think, usually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I wonder who it'll be. I guess Call her daddy. We're going to go for. She's our closest sister show. Yeah. Yeah.

[Oscar]

You are unwell associate.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm there this week, Friday, usa. You're gonna be gagged. I'm actually kinda gagged at what I'm doing there. So I'm actually like really excited. I always was excited. Cause anything else from like Timey too? For sure. But it's gonna be a gag for sure. I'm excited. That's gonna be fun. So Friday. I don't know if the tickets are still available. Probably not. Cause it's a stacked.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, sorry. That scared me. Is it okay. Oh, that's so scary. Yay. Oh, my gosh. Okay, I swear, we're not just getting Arby's just to get Arby's.

[Oscar]

But that's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

The merch is crazy. Did you say it's Arby's day? My mom said this was on her news break, that the. They have arrived. The new menu item has arrived at Arby's.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Go to my Instagram story. Comment on the real with Cedric the Entertainer and me at the end. And there's. We're. We have. We're announcing a new product. Me trying to be the official Arby's spokesperson, which I think I'm doing another Arby's campaign, you guys. I think the third one's coming. But anyways, love you, Arby's. We've loved you Clock it. I've been doing mukbangs for you guys for 15 years, so this is authentic. Thank you. Yes. We got the blinked Arby's. We blinked today.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Team not sponsored by either. But I am not for this. We're not sponsored on the podcast, but I am doing the campaign. I got this for Moses because he loves it. Oh, okay. We got the jamoka shakes just because last time we ordered food and mo's like, where's the jamoco shake? And I was like, oh, man, I didn't know you actually like. I do actually love it. I didn't know you love, love, loved it.

[Moses]

It's my favorite.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, it smells so good. So they have a new. Did the new. Was the new menu item there, maybe?

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay. Are they different sizes? Not that it matters. We got a cute little one. Yes. You also don't have to. As always, Oscar, don't feel like you. I'm pressuring you to eat or I feel like we eat so much. I'm like, okay, we don't have to. You don't have to if you don't want to. Okay. It's just a little treat. Thank you, Mom. Oh, okay. Just Trish merch. By the way, just trish.com, you can get the Trish live hoodies from last year from Trishmas. We got the shorts, we got the socks. We got the hats, we got the shirts. We really are a just Trish walking advertisement today. And Arby's. I love it. Full disclosure, they sent us steak bites last week to try early, but today we got it ourselves. That's how much we loved the steak bites. And again, this. This episode's not sponsored. We Just love Arby's. And I have done two commercials for them. Thank you. Here they are. Wow. You guys know I'm into my three orders. Oh, my gosh, they look so good. So, yes. RV sent us some early ones. Oh, they smell so good. And I was like, okay, are these good? Because they're like, the new ones. Like, they. They made them fresh, but these smells just as good and look just as juicy. Oh, my gosh. How many did we get? Okay, first of all, this is for Malibu and Elvis Afterthru. Okay. This is for me. This is for Cali. Yeah. Are you gonna try them? Try it. Try it on TikTok. Okay. Yes. Okay. The forks are. Wow, Mom. And the cheese sauces. Okay, again, thank you. Thank you. Okay, steak bites for everyone. Again, eat at your leisure. Don't feel like you guys all have to eat right now. This is so exciting. Oh, my God. Wow. The curly fries here. Curly fries.

[Oscar]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yum. Oh, my gosh. The curly fries we've been getting Mom. Really? Since I was, like, 8 years old in Rockford, Illinois, we've been getting those Arby's curly fries. Yes. Mozzarella sticks again. Don't feel like you need to eat all of it if you don't want to. I feel like people are like, oh, my. Always pressuring people to eat food, but just eat what you want. And cheese sauces. Do you want, like, it with your curly fries or no? Yeah, sometimes I eat it with the crinkle fries, but I only wanted the curly fries, too. Moses does not want a cheese sauce. I'll take it, though. I love a cheese sauce. Okay. Wow. Steak and mozzarella stick. Sounds good to me. Oh, my God. Don't forget your little steak bites, Mom. All right, let's see. Okay. I'm such a fan of these. Sorry. Okay. This literally feels like a commercial. I promise you it's not. I'm just, like, really excited. Oh, just. Oh, wow. Okay. The delivery came chaos this morning. Okay. So here, let's. This. First of all, this looks so. Sorry, guys. I'm gagged. I. I'm really into steak right now. And can I tell you, I was into steak talk before I knew the steak nuggets were coming. I have a fork right here. They're huge. I know. Protein. Love the protein. We love protein. We love Juicy. Oh, my. I'm super excited. No, these are so good. Steak nuggets. Yeah. Show the closeup. Okay. I know. I know how they do that. And this is just my mom picking it up. They didn't even know that we were gonna do a podcast like Juicy.

[Oscar]

It's like Undercover Boss.

[Moses]

Yeah, it's like the.

[Oscar]

She went and got NATO. Little did they know it's for a celebrity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was. I heard your feet. Do you guys want to see me? Yeah, they actually know me. They want to see me. And they're really, really sweet. The girls are sweet. And then there's one guy. I don't think he knows me, but he's always so excited to be there. So the Simi Valley employees at Arby's, I love you, especially that guy. He talks like a surfer. Was he there? Probably. He was making a young guy. Yeah, but you didn't hear him talk because they were busy making 54 of yours. We did a place they have people around. Do they eat? Waited in the drive through. Oh, yeah. There's a guy who kind of talks surfer and he's just so excited all the time. He's always just like, hey, welcome to Arby's. Would you like some cheese sauce? Awesome. We'll do that. He's so sweet. I don't know his name. I don't even think he, like, knows I do videos or anything. He's just really nice me. Where are you off to? Nothing really saying. Just go get gas. Do you want to do. Yeah. This morning, this was on the Hot Topics. My mom on her Facebook news was like, the steak nuggets are on there. Any other hot topics? A quick one. Hot topic. Well, you don't have to if you don't want to. Anything on your mind that you're thinking about? Well, you know, I'm into documentaries. Just gonna put this out there. Sprint, it is so good. It's about, I mean, the fastest runners in the world, you know, from the US Too. It's like, I watch it because we can't run, right? It's like, how do they run so fast? I mean, like 100 meter. They run in nine seconds. How do they do it? Well, they're. Well, that's what God gave them that. Oh, I see. I thought they were, like, spilling, how you doing? Really good. And goes through, like, all the, like, up to the Paris Olympics. How you getting. You know, you get to know all the people that are in these against each other, and sometimes they beat each other out by 5/10 of a second. It's. It's just really good. And then they have backstories, you know, where can they watch it? Where they know. Why can they watch Sprint? Netflix. Love it. Did you finish the Ed Gain concert? Did you finish Ed Gaines story. No, that was. I haven't gotten to the Addison Ray part. We're literally just watching it for Addison. It's creepy because I googled him and he's from Plainfield, Wisconsin, which is only like an hour and a half from where we lived. Of course we were. I wasn't born yet. It was 1957. This happened but a year before you're born, but really weird. Oh, and Charlie Hunnam is in it. I didn't know. I didn't. That's. Cause I watched it. Cause I really liked him.

[Oscar]

It's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, if you like creepy things like that. So he's a versatile actor is what you're saying. He's good at acting. Very versatile. Yes. And he's clean cut and. Yeah. And he. He's not the character he saw in Sons of Anarchy. He is. Yeah. Those are two different. Okay, we gotta get to the Addison. You didn't get to Addison's part yet, though. Okay, well, next update, next Hot Topics. I will. But I got going on that sprint and it was just like, sprint above American Horror Story or Monster. Right. I know, right? You like that better because you're with them in the race. Because you've been, you know, following them through every episode. It's like, oh, and then you're like, there's some bad tense. I'm like, what am I doing? That's stupid. But it is. I love that you were into it. Would you like a mozzarella stick? No, I'm good. No, you're good. Okay. Everyone got theirs? Yeah. Thank you so much, Mom.

[Oscar]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

She literally always is, like, when you need. Because we post made it the last time. And she's like, I just get it for you. And I was like, are you sure? So thank you, Mom. The steak bites are amazing. This was great. Oh, my gosh. Thanks, Mom. You look great. Look at the outfit. You should do a TikTok in that. You look great. I might have outside of Arby's tomorrow.

[Oscar]

You do.

[Trisha Paytas]

You might have outside of Arby's tomorrow. Oh. Oh. I was like, okay. Which will be today. I mean, right?

[Moses]

No spoilers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spoilers. Oh, my gosh. Okay. That was fun. I'm always overwhelmed when I get. Okay. This is so exciting. Sorry. I'm gonna have a little bit more seat by. And then we can. Can. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. We just feel like having, like a twister, if you will. The sequel, the prequel. Call Glenn Powell. I wonder if he walked in the room if we would also feel like we were just in A twister. I can see him coming on the podcast. I see it for sure. And I feel like we'd be really good at that interview because both of us are just like, we, like. Well, we're not like, oh, my gosh. I'm sure if he was here, we'd be like, oh, my gosh. I'm sure. I probably would also be able to talk. I'd be like, oh, my God, I can't talk. But I could see it. How was your weekend? Are you wearing a YouTube bling shirt?

[Oscar]

I sure am.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you. Believe they send it to you.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know.

[Oscar]

Me too. I went with Cutie Cinderella to a YouTube screening of the Life of a Showgirl movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. Sorry. I know. We're talking about it.

[Oscar]

I mean, how can you not?

[Trisha Paytas]

But, oh, yeah, it's a hot button.

[Oscar]

It is. It is. Who knew being a swifty was more controversial than politics at this point?

[Trisha Paytas]

So true.

[Oscar]

Where. What timeline are we?

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought you like live streaming yesterday. And I was like, oh, no. Pray for Oscar.

[Oscar]

It is scary out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, but. Okay, so they gave you a. They had bling. This was a swag.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they had little goodie bags, and these were custom blinged orange YouTube sweaters.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can they see it? Can you see yourself? It's so cool. I saw it. I was like, that's like.

[Oscar]

I felt very cool. And okay, I. It was at the Grove, and I was waiting for Cutie outside the theater, and I'm. This is again, very you at Sugarfish. And. Because I was just standing outside on my phone, like, just waiting, and then I see a beautiful young woman, like, wave at me from the distance. But, like, naturally, I assume it's not me. Like, they're waving to someone else, and I, like, look up, and I'm like. And then just go back to my phone. And then she comes back and she's waving again. Very Tara. You and Tara. Yummy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

And it is Alicia Marie. Like a vision. Like a vision walking down the Grove, the fountain behind her, looking just gorgeous. She's wearing, like, a little corset top and baggy jeans, and she's like. She was pretty. Yes. And she was like, good to see you. I haven't seen you in so long. And I'm like. I was gagged. It's like, you remember my sister? I was like, yeah. And then she's like, this is my friend Greer. I'm like, hi. It was, like, such a beautiful experience. I felt so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Was she going, Was she Going to the thing or.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was also invited to the the Life of a Show Girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you ask for him on the podcast?

[Oscar]

I was scared, too. And Cutie also wanted to do, like, a, a pretty basic crossover with, like, her podcast too, but we were both too intimidated. She was too scared, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the crossover. I, I, I emailed our booker. I was like, hey, any chance? Because I'm really, I'm really into that right now. Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

I was so intimidated. I was so intimidated. And then, of course, we go in. And then everyone was gagged to see Alicia. People were running down, but, like, Alicia, you're my favorite vlogger. I was really gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was the girl that people were swamping.

[Oscar]

People were very gagged by Alicia. Yeah, it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't even see her. Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

It's so funny because I predicted you were going to react this way so, like, perfectly. Someone asked someone, because I did a livestream reaction to the album when it dropped. And someone said, after I listened to it, someone said, oscar, what do you think Trisha will think? And I said, I think she will go with. We'll go with what the crowd is saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

What can I tell you? And say, but that's sometimes. And I'm saying this, like, so sincerely, I know I'm smart at so many things, but there are some things that I'm truly just like, really dumb. Like, some, like, it is very even politics. Like, obviously I always say I'm not political, but I am. I'm getting more political in my personal life, obviously now. And it's because, like, I listen to, like, what people are saying, right? But I think that's like, why there's commentators and there's why there's, you know, whatever. Because it like for dumb. Not dumb. That's the wrong word to use for people who are like, yeah, kind of dumb. I guess in some ways, like, it helps. It helps guide us because, like, with even like politics, I'm kind of like, okay, there's so much information, like, give me the points that, like, I care about. And so same thing album. Like, I really was like, you guys know, like, musically I'm just like, not musically, like, I do. I. I don't know. I can't comprehend the lyrics. Like, like, truly, like, sometimes I don't know. You know what I mean? I'm always kind of gagged. I'm always Kind of like, oh, is that what it means? We talked about My Chemical Romance. I was kind of like, is that what that means? Like, there's so many things. I'm just like, for the vibes, right? I listen to Donny Osmond. Okay. And the do you have hands? Sound like cast recording. So it's like, I'm not fully deep. Maybe that's the word I'm looking for. And stuff done. I'm not fully deep. When we look at art, I look at art, I'm like, I don't know. Looks like some splatter to me. But, like, I'm sure there's some deep meaning.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I respect it and I appreciate it. So when someone explain it to me, like, Moses can be like, oh, but, like, look at you. Talk about Naz's photo that she gave me for my tour. There was like, purple lights, and I was like, that's pretty. Purple lights. A random thing she picked for me. I loved it. I was like, I don't know where this was a beautiful. He's like, no, but the way that the purple lights are coming from the black background, like, everything's dark. And like, you were explaining. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's like, deep. I get why she picked it. So that's where I'm with this. And you know me, I don't always have to go with the flow, but I think on this one, I was like. I listened to. I was like, catchy. Yes. But then when people were making the arguments, I was kind of like, I get that too. And also, you know, all of it. So I'm.

[Oscar]

What arguments have you seen?

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely the one of her. Like, I forget myself that she is 36. So look, I'm not about ageism, whatever, but I always think of her as, like a 25 year old. Like, in my head, she's a 20. She's Addison right to me. So, like, you know, and I don't want to get, like, too hot, but I know we're a swiftie over here and I respect. Okay, I'm not trying to, like, who am I to Back, but I was kind of like, okay, I get it. Like, you know, some people are saying, like, the lyrics feel a little Dr. Seuss. And I was like, maybe that's why I liked it, because I was kind of like, oh, yeah. I'm kind of also just not that deep. Like her other songs, people talk about, like, qt. Cinderella has had, like, her brilliant lyrics and this. And she wrote these songs. And like, someone who wrote this Couldn't write this. And I was like, oh, I didn't realize, like, her lyrics were that deep to begin with, but I guess they were. So that's what I'm saying is I get the argument, obviously, the assumptions. People like the Wood song or the. You know, the ones that they assumed were about Travis. Like, I get it. Like, I understand it now. When I first listen, I'm just like, oh, okay. But I don't know the lore. Feel free to edit what you want, because I don't know what. But I'm. I understand when people are saying. I'm kind of like, oh, and me. I listened to it on the way to get the donuts, because I'll tell you, those with donuts. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm gonna listen to it. Oh, yeah, it's catchy. Love it. And then they're all. The backlash happened. I was like, oh, I don't know if I love it anymore. I don't know.

[Moses]

There was one viral moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses knows. You know about this too? Moses. Wow. You really are.

[Moses]

Of course. I was watching the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

I am dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Yes. Let me see. I'll react again. Hold on.

[Oscar]

Oh, I love her voice.

[Trisha Paytas]

The drop.

[Oscar]

I was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Suppose. My God, I'm going to cry.

[Oscar]

Life is a song. It ends when it ends.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

I'm dead.

[Moses]

Come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Oh, my God. Did not show me this. That is. I would have saw that over the weekend. That would have.

[Oscar]

Oh, I'm so dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

It ends when it ends.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. I forgot there was. I switched when I was reacting. I. Someone wanted to have, like, the lyrics up, so I switched, like, my setup, whatever. And then the one I switched to my desktop was muted. So I was playing the song. And in that moment, I was your spiritual child, because I was. I could hear the song, but it was muted in my stream, and I was not looking at what the girls were saying. And then I. At the end of the song, I look and everyone's just like, red, exclamation point. Red exclamation point. Because I had it muted.

[Moses]

The song was mute.

[Oscar]

So I was reacting to it. Like, girls could hear and they couldn't hear.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was, like, for copyright or something. That is so funny. Oh, my God.

[Moses]

It ended up being exactly like you.

[Trisha Paytas]

We really are the same.

[Oscar]

Was gaggy. Yeah. It was literally your spiritual.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should watch your whole stream. Is it up still? I went to go look for it.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Controversy.

[Oscar]

No, I had it up. And then I Just never went back to look at it. And on when I saw Cutie, she was like, oh, didn't. She's like, Wouldn't YouTube take it down? Whatever Copyright. And then I checked my channel and I still saw it there and it had like 30, 000 views. So I assume that it was still up because I was like, how else would have 30, 000 views? And then Jimmy texted me. He's like, oh, I want to go see your. What did you think? I want to go see your vod. But it's down. And I was like, what? And then. Yeah. So I guess it was only after like 12 hours. But Gaggy in those 12 hours got 30, 000 views, which is kind of crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Who took it down?

[Oscar]

UMG for the record label. But either it's back up now in some countries, I don't know which.

[Moses]

That's not fair. Yeah, they can. Because they can share the profit or take the profit.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Some companies just block the video.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And it was already unmonetized because I knew it was gonna get claimed. Because I've had Taylor stuff pop up in, like, Roblox before, and it's just like they take the revenue from it. I'm like, whatever. Yeah, but they blocked it. Yeah, they blocked it. And then I edit. They have an option, like, YouTube has an option now. It's like, it'll just automatically edit out like. Like music, so you can put it back up. So it's back up in some countries. I don't know which, but it's. I just did it last night, so I don't know.

[Moses]

So you should have done the whole video on mute, T. I should have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That was like. I thought you did it for that reason. That is crazy, because. Yeah, same with my cover songs. Like, butt on it and stuff. Like, it just like. They just take all the money, which is like, fine. Like.

[Oscar]

But they don't lock it. And honestly, Taylor should clear it because not many girls are rooting for the album. And there I was, right. A brave soldier.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you feel as a Swiftie? Your reaction?

[Oscar]

The whole album is not bad. There's people really running that this is like the biggest flop of the century. Embarrassing, whatever. And it's like, I think everyone's just being a little bit dramatic because also, I'm old and I've lived through this a million times with we are never ever getting back together from red. That was 2012. Everyone said, she's so immature. Everyone was making fun of that alb. That song Title. And then she wanted to write an annoying poppy song to piss off Jake Gyllenhaal. Like, that was the whole point of it. For Shake it off from 1989, everyone said that that was lyrically embarrassing. Been there, done that. And then in reputation 2017, everyone said, look, what you made me do was a conservative dog whistle. That kind of sounds familiar. And that that was lyrically embarrassing as well. In 2019, she had me as the lead single. I promise that you'll never find another like me. And that's when she had the JoJo seawall coded looks. And everyone was making fun of that. Yeah. So we've all been here before. She had a good run from, like, 2020 to. I think she's had criticism the past couple albums, but this one's been a lot. So she had a good run of, like, a five year, relatively, you know, adored. And it's just that pendulum effect.

[Trisha Paytas]

So was the movie good? I don't know how to translate.

[Moses]

I saw videos of people in the movie, like, dancing and singing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was good. It was a vibe.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I mean, it really is just the YouTube videos, but I think it is, like, a fun sense of community at least. Like, kind of. It's like watching YouTube videos together, so that's kind of fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

So there were new music videos or there weren't.

[Oscar]

There was a. The premiere of her new music video was in there, but it's on YouTube now. The fate of Ophelia, because I had seen.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I saw QTS where she was like, oh, this album is, like, clearly a joke. So it's more parody than necessarily a serious one. You're saying, like, it's more meant to be a gag.

[Oscar]

I think it was meant to be a more pop album. I think the purpose of it was to be, like, the kind of glittery, hooky pop album. I think that was the intent by it. Like, in the sense that, like, she can write these, like, more indie, very wordy, like, literary songs, and then she can also write something like, the haters gonna hate hate. Hey, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, not every album or every song has the same intent or the same purpose. And I think this was supposed to just be more fun. I think she's serious about. I think she was serious about wanting to write a fun pop album.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

But I think that's what the intent was. For it to be, like, more, like, light hearted. This is where she's at right now, like, in love and kind of taking things, like, in stride. All right, well, how was Your weekend.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're just kidding. That we can catch up, honestly. Chill. We just. We. We just. We just sat at home. No, we were, like, playing outside with the kids because it was finally cool. We played outside, took him out to get some pancakes. Aquaman's growing, so he's, like, standing on his own. Not on his own, but standing up. Yeah. Kind of just cooked. We cooked. We cooked burgers. We cooked more steak. I am on my steak era right now. We cooked burgers, had some grapefruit. We went some walks with the kids. We do a lot of activity. When I say we stay home, we don't, like, bunker down. We do, like, go outside. We have a playground outside and walking. What did we do, though? Friday. Friday was recording new music. Friday recorded new music. Pilates, Got the donuts, did the Taco Bell. Yeah, that was our weekend. Watched. Watched the clips of the Ed Gaines. You watched it? The Ed Gaines?

[Oscar]

Not yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you going to?

[Oscar]

I don't know. I wanted to, but the trailer is really spooky.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even the Addison clips that I saw on the Addison Rae, like, fan pages were, like, so scary. She's so good, though. She's. I mean, I'm like. I am obsessed with her. I love her. I love her.

[Oscar]

Did you reply to her dm?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. What? Now I'm too. I'm even more intimidated. Where. I don't think I, like, actually could go. I think I'd be.

[Oscar]

You have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I would be too scared to even, like, I don't know.

[Oscar]

No, you have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love her. I just love. She's, like, on a little, like, press run right now. Is she just promoting the Monster? Is that what she's promoting?

[Oscar]

I think also her music. Cause she's. She was performing on Jimmy Fallon.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good. Like, I love the story of her getting her record deal. She's like, I walked in. Was it Columbia Records?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, I walked in. I had a binder of words and 10 colors, and I had no music. Why would I have music to show them? No, I had words and colors, and I said, this is how my music will make you feel. And they signed her. I think it's inspirational. I think she is inspirational. And I feel like the gag for me was always like, oh, she's like a tiktoker or someone. Back in 2020, Trish would be like, oh, my God. Someone with no talent, like myself. Oh, made something for herself. But then you watch. First of all, we loved he's all that. When that movie came out, we were like the only people who loved it. I stood by it. I loved it. Them. But she's consistently good. Like in this. In the AT games, we don't watch something. I watch her scenes. I watched her scenes in it and I was like, she's so good. I don't know. She also seems funny. She seems very self aware. She seems like, you know, some of the COVID of W Today. Happy birthday, Addison. When we're filming this, like, she's kind of like that girl. And I just. I don't know. There's something about her. There's something about her love. I love just her movement, the way she danced. Like, I love it. I don't know this. It sounds like. It sounds weird to say it, but like. Like an imperfect pop star. You know what I mean? Like someone who's not. I think she's beautiful. Her body's amazing, obvious, all that. But she's not like the polished pop star, like a Sabrina Carpenter or something. She's just in her Y2K. She's just her own thing. And she kind of is out there like Jimmy Fallon. She's out there just like dancing by. I love it. I love her. And I love that people are gay. I love that the Weeknd was at her show last night in Boston.

[Oscar]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sold out show in Boston. The weekend's up there in the balcony, bopping his head. I. I love the girl. I really think she is. She's the star. I emailed our booker this morning and I was like, was Addison Rae on our list? I don't know if she was.

[Oscar]

I think my original one. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she? I put Addison Rae because she's doing the press again. I was like, let's, let's circle around. Yeah, she's coming to LA soon. She'll be at the Wiltern on the 19th and 20th. And she went the Greek on the 22nd. I think there's tickets left to the Greek still, so go get them. And I put her and Remy Ashton on there. I was like, also Remy and Alicia. I should put her on there too. So I just like her. I don't know. I think that I spent my weekend looking at Addison. Like songs like I was going into, like more of the deep dive, not deep. I'm sure I don't have that many songs out, but, like the ones I didn't know, like, I only knew, like Diet Pepsi and Aquamarine. There was one where she has like ear pods in and she's like on a horse.

[Oscar]

So I put my headphones on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Is that famous gun?

[Oscar]

No, no, famous again. She performed it on Jimmy Fallon. She had the blindfold.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that one. Yes. That one was good. I. Yes. Oh, yeah, the headphones one was good. I love. I was listening to a lot, so they all. I got mashed in my head. But I love her album, Addison. I love her style. I love her vibe. I love her. She seems very sweet. She seems very thankful. I love that at meet and greet, she does little sound baths with everybody and just vibes. Like, I. I just love her. And then I did a deep dive on her parents because we talked about it last episode, like, what her parents were doing, and they kind of chilled out, so I was like, okay, good for her. Like, she can kind of just be a star and flourish. She's very private. She does cute paparazzi photos. Like, I just. I really love her. And she's sweet. She forgave me. I asked for forgiveness when we started this podcast for not always being nice to her back in 2020. And she was so sweet, and she was literally, like, what, 18 back then, I was like, oh, my God, girl, was she 25 now? So maybe she was like, 20, but still. It's embarrassing. But she forgave me, and I was like, wow, that's so nice. Her and Rachel Zaggler, very sweet girls. Because, honestly, if I was a young girl and some old was coming for me, I'd be like, absolutely not.

[Oscar]

I'm their pop star now. It's like, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, just, like, huge. Both of them, like, Disney princess, pop star. Yeah. Like, literally, I'd be like, nah, don't forget. You know what I mean? I mean, I've definitely held grudges on people who are, like, nasty to me. Way back when, I was thinking about it, because I started writing part of it in the book, and there was, like, a girl that was, like, really nasty. Me, an older woman, and, like, she's still kind of out there in the news sometimes. I'm always like, you are nasty to me. When I was very young, when I was, like, 20, before I was like, a troll or anything like that, she was just, like, mean to me for no reason because I wore, like, too much makeup and my boobs were out. Oh, yeah, I'll bleep the name or bleep the name. Jimmy. Yeah. But she was mean to me for no reason, and I still hold on to that. I guess if she would be like, can you forgive me? I'd probably be like, okay, yeah, but. But in my heart, because she hasn't done that. I was kind of like, hold on to that and haven't forgot. So that was my weekend. I did listen to a lot of ass. And she is so good. She is so good. I do want to watch it. I just, like, I am such a manifester in the sense of, like. I really do, like, think too hard on things. I have to, like, let things go. So I think I was like, if, like, I think too hard on, like, that story, that Gaines thing, I think I'd be like, oh, yeah, Myself. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't think I watch. I don't think I could act in those kind of things. I truly don't. Like, someone's talking about a Possession movie today, and I was just like, I don't think I could act in one of those. Like, it just feels too real.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you are very method in the sense that you just. You become the. You become the character. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes. And I. And I visualize myself, you know, I watch something and I visualize and I'm just like, yeah, no, so that's not for me, probably. It's Ryan Murphy.

[Oscar]

Yeah, Ryan Murphy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good for Addison for being on. God, she really. She's really amazing. She's my fave right now. I don't know.

[Oscar]

You have to reply to that. Dm. You have, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

We think it's too late now because, like, I probably.

[Oscar]

It's not too late.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, the weekend is at our shows. I don't know if she cares about me going anymore. She probably. Girl, the weekend was just there. I don't know if I really need you there. I'm thinking he might be doing the Idol too, and he's looking at Addison.

[Oscar]

Oh, good theory. That would be guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Such a sweet girl to me. And. But she is an actress. She's an actor. She could do it. But that show is like. I mean, it's like, raunchy. I don't know if I'd want my sweet little Addison doing it.

[Oscar]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I mean, but she's also giving sexy and w. She is 25. She is giving sexy.

[Oscar]

Yeah, her and Lily Rose step give similar vibes to me, though, because I. Lily Rose is also like. She's sexy, but she's not, like, vulgar. But she was able to play like, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true, that's true. That's true. You're right. You're right. Yeah, I just. Yeah, right. Maybe Abel's like that too. He gives sexy, but. But he is pretty Vulgar.

[Oscar]

Pretty vulgar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So again, always just take my opinion for what you will because I do love the weekend. A lot of people like the Weeknd. I don't know. Right. A lot of. He has a lot of fans.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we all love the weekend.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

Moses, I need you to hack her Instagram and reply to Addison. Ray, do you have my YouTube?

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't you?

[Moses]

No. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I have Moses. I can Go back and forth to Moses.

[Moses]

She can go to mine and reply to her for mine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes I like people's photos from Moses's account. It's like, let me like it. Nothing, nothing dubious. Just I'll be like, oh, sometimes I forget I'm on your account. But sometimes I like to just do it so they see your support too.

[Moses]

Sometimes I follow somebody. I'm like, why am I following this actor?

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to search for people that, like, blocked me on your phone. And he's like, are you searching people? And I like, didn't know you could see. I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot.

[Oscar]

This is so. This is a couple weeks ago, but I forgot. Romy Mars reposted Moses somewhere, I think on Tik Tok or something. Sophia Coppola's daughter, and she's a singer. I actually didn't know she was Sophia Coppola's daughter when I found her music. And I really like her music. Sophie, shout out Remy Mars.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did she repose?

[Oscar]

Someone was in my chat last or on Wednesday and said that she reposted Moses on Tick Tock. She said, get her on. She reposted Moses and I think that's how you. I probably wanted your tick tocks or maybe a 10 fish. Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it was the zucchinis. It went viral. Maybe it was Romy Mars's repost. I love that.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's on Tick Tock.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And she is. She's. She makes little tick tocks with Jacob Elordi and everyone's like, this is my. This is. Would be me if I was a Nepo baby. Forcing Jacob Elordi to be in my Tick Tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because how is she?

[Oscar]

Let me see. She's pretty young. She's only 18.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, she's fierce.

[Oscar]

I love her tick Tocks. Yeah. Everyone's always like, this is what I would be if I was. If I was a nipple baby. Just making your mom's like famous actors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is he in a movie?

[Oscar]

He was in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she doing the Frankenstein one?

[Oscar]

I forget. Let me see which one. They just did one with Sophia, I think. Did she do Priscilla? He worked on it with Priscilla and then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar]

And they must have done something recently because he was just in her tick tock a couple weeks ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. What were they doing?

[Oscar]

A little dance. He made her. She made him dance.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love when I see. Is that I love Nepo babies. Can you say nipple babies or is that more like insulting to say?

[Oscar]

I guess contextually, like, I love a Nepo Baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

So when I see a Nepo baby.

[Oscar]

On there, I like a self aware Nepo baby. And Romy Mars, she had another viral video where she what the name? That's a star name. That's a star name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Birth name is Romy Mars, which I would believe my son is Aquaman. So I'm not like doubting it. Just I love it. Seems like Sophia would give her that.

[Oscar]

Romy Croquette Mars is her full government name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, Coppola.

[Oscar]

Well, her. Her dad is Thomas Mars.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so they didn't give her hyphenate a name. I would hyphenate that if I was.

[Oscar]

I know papa is a good name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think Nicholas Cage was a Coppola and changed it to Cage. I think he was like, I don't want to be known as. I'm like, oh, like we gave Paytas Hackman. Because I was like, they want to be a Paytas. You know they're gonna want to be a pay us. Actually, Moses said that at first I was out to give him Hackman too, but he's like, they probably won't paytas in there. I was like, you're right.

[Moses]

Yeah. I mean, to not give your kids the name, that might be the most.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, they're just like doctors, like Dr. Malibu Barbie, paid Attack, and it's like the longest name ever.

[Moses]

We just try to give them as many names as we can. So they have choices.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's so true.

[Trisha Paytas]

They can pick which one they want. I love. Yeah, I love that she doesn't use it because also if I was that I would just change it. I'd be like, okay, I'm Romy Morris Coppola. Because like, my mom is so cool. I want to be that too.

[Oscar]

She had like a TikTok a couple years ago that she got in trouble for. God, I think she was like 16 at the time where she. She's like, I'm not allowed to have a tick tock, but I'm gonna make one. And then she talked about like just the craziest a list problems about like taking planes and helicopters and like having a chef, blah, blah, blah. And it was so. It was just fierce. I. It almost reminds me of like Michael. Michaela Nagira versus Who's the other one? We talked about that other girl who does a luxury hall. She's just rich. Oh yeah, I forgot her name already.

[Trisha Paytas]

Becca.

[Oscar]

Becca. Becca Bloom. It gives me that because I feel like if it was a regular girl, I think everyone would hate her. But since she is Just like a teenage Nepo baby. It's just like. It's kind of. It's fierce for her to have these problems, but giving like the Osbornes back in the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kelly and Jack, when they lived in the house, like, their problems were so like Nepo baby problems, but, like, kind of endearing.

[Oscar]

Yeah, exactly. It isn't. She's very endearing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw Jack White's daughter on Tick Tock and she followed me. I was so excited. I loved the White Stripes back in the day. Jack White was giving very Gerard way back in the day.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so I saw. And she was doing it with her parents. It's Jack White. And there's. I think it's like her mama's name is too. I can't remember her name, but they were both on there together with her. And I was just like, so gig. So then I went to go follow her because I was like, oh. Period. And she was already following me. I was like, I think she's a model on her own. I don't know her name either. She's like 18. But she was beautiful. She looked very. I don't know. She was doing the little Tick Tock with her parents. It was father figure, I think.

[Oscar]

Scarlet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, Scarlet. Scarlet White. Is that her name?

[Oscar]

Scarlet Teresa White.

[Trisha Paytas]

Scarlet Teresa White. I love it. I was gagged. I haven't seen Jack White in so long. And I was kind of like, damn, I really love the White Stripes back in the day. Are you gonna be my girl? Did you like White Stripes?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I did, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They're kind of. Kind of everything. So I love. I think Martin Scorsese's daughter is on TikTok.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think she followed me.

[Oscar]

Francesca.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Which I thought it was. I thought it was like AI. Or I thought it was like someone who looks like Martin Scorsese. Like, I thought it was a joke. And they're like, no, that's actually Martin Scorsese's diary.

[Oscar]

She does like, a lot of.

[Trisha Paytas]

With him. And it looks. I'm like, there's just no way he's going to be doing Tiktoks. Martin Scorsese. And. Yeah, he is. So I do love that. That gives the opposite of like, cringe parents. That gives like, cool parent vibes, which I think is everything I love. I love it, though. Jacob Lord. Is Jacob Lordy on TikTok or he just did one with her.

[Oscar]

I think he just made a cameo in hers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is the Cannes Film Festival. Not in an ocean. It's a river.

[Oscar]

Like, it's an excellent question.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know you've been to Cam, right?

[Moses]

No, I've been to, as in the south of France.

[Oscar]

Oh, the French Riviera is by the ocean.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just think there must be an ocean. Probably Indian Ocean is my guess. I don't know. Atlantic Ocean.

[Moses]

It's the Indian Ocean. The Mediterranean.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mediterranean.

[Oscar]

But French Riviera river is. Is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the French river, right? Yeah.

[Oscar]

Me trying to read a map. I'm like, wait, I can't tell what this is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Body of waters. Don't know them at all.

[Oscar]

Okay. France borders the Atlantic and Mediterranean Sea. I don't know. There's some water around France either way, then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Water around everything. When you think of it. I mean, there's not a place that doesn't have water.

[Oscar]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Michigan. There's the Great Lakes. I mean, I'm sure there's something even. Like, what's landlocked, like Oklahoma.

[Oscar]

I'm sure there's, like, a river or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably the Mississippi River.

[Oscar]

Excellent.

[Trisha Paytas]

The world, the country. You know anything about Lewis and Clark?

[Oscar]

The Louisiana Purchase?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Whoa. Right?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They came over and they were like. I think that's why they gave them credit for, like, discovering the West. West side of the United States, because they're like. They crossed the river and like, damn, we discovered this whole new land. And then they're like, well, there's already people here, so you really didn't discover.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy.

[Oscar]

And Sacagawea, that was. She was a part of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But I feel. Yeah, I feel like there was Native Americans, obviously over here.

[Oscar]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of like the Christopher Columbus of it all. It's like, I found this land that people live on. Like, well, then you didn't find it. Yeah, it's canceled. He's canceled, right? Columbus Day.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hate it. It's coming up.

[Oscar]

Oh, November, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, October. Oh, do we pass it? I think they're switching it to a different.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think they rename.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's good.

[Oscar]

They rename it or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. Sometimes things are meant to be switched around, you know, just like the Bible. You can't take it for word.

[Oscar]

Okay. Yeah. Columbus Day is now often called Indigenous. Indigenous Peoples Day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it.

[Oscar]

Because October 14th.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's coming up. All right. Love to see it. Love to see it. Because they did find it. They are the original founders. Love that. We love. See, we love making progress in 2025. Speaking of making progress, Progressive auto insurance.

[Oscar]

I honestly don't know where I was going with that transition. I was Gonna say, Sabrina Carpenter's love life progressing, question mark.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she's dating that guy from Stranger Things.

[Oscar]

I think people are manifesting because she arrested Joe Keery from Stranger Things during Juno at Austin City Limits. He was the Juno boy. And immediately I saw the vision. Joe was so cute. He was so eager to get arrested. He was like begging for her to put the handcuffs on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he knew. He knew the bit.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he kn. The whole bit. Like before she could even finish what her. The little, you know, the little bit like you've been back, whatever, trying to arrest him. He already like had his hands up. And she's like, you're very eager. She even clocked it. She's like, I've never seen someone be so eager to get handcuffed. Sabrina. Sabrina. News. He was down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she handcuffs them. For real.

[Oscar]

No, she. She. It's like the stage is too far, but she like throws the handshake.

[Trisha Paytas]

She hands them so they don't get. They don't get to go on stage with her.

[Oscar]

Anything. No, I wish because I. That would have been gaggy if Joe could have been on there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. So he was so excited. He was backstage, right? He showed pictures backstage, so he like, obviously, yeah.

[Oscar]

And like, she is friends with Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things as well. She was also the Juno girl. She got arrested too, so she is friendly with the cast. But I'm. I'm really shipping. I think everyone's kind of like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Power couple. I see the vision.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

I really see the vision.

[Trisha Paytas]

Again, you can totally correct me on this because I don't know. He is someone to me who could be 25 or 45 and he looks, what, he's middle aged or he's very young.

[Oscar]

He was born in 92, so he's my age.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so he's like in the middle. Okay, that's fine. For some reason I'm thinking like, he's like close to 50.

[Oscar]

Okay, all right, joke here. He close to 50, kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Is the hair. But like also looks 20, like in the face. Like, he also looks very young. So that's one where I'm very confused. I'm like, what is his age? Age? Okay, perfect. Age appropriate then.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. That's funny. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's dating anyone?

[Oscar]

I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so I think we just. Okay. I love it. I do think Sabrina is like, I don't know. I feel like she could date like a Kennedy, right? Kennedy Jr. Or something. You know what I mean? I feel like she could. Yeah. I don't know. There's probably a Kennedy up there. I think they're doing. I think Ryan Murphy is doing like a Kennedy Jr movie. Is there a Junior. A Junior Kennedy?

[Oscar]

Oh, I have seen on gay Twitter because everyone thinks the actor is hot or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he doesn't.

[Oscar]

I think Sabrina likes someone with a good personality and who is like. I mean, I still think. Joke. I can't even say he's like, quirky hot. I think Joe Keery is like, really handsome. But he's also. He's a dj. He's a musician. Dj.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, don't take a musician. I feel like that's like looking for like a come up. Is that bad? A bad take? Come up, Come in. No, maybe not. Is he good? I don't know.

[Oscar]

Sometimes I feel like he's already pretty popular. Like he's played Coachella and stuff. I know him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

I shout out Nicole Rafi. She is the number one djo. Stan. She's like every time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Djo.

[Oscar]

I think that's how you pronounce it. Djo. I don't know how else you pronounce it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is there Band name is djo.

[Oscar]

He's a dj.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what's djo?

[Oscar]

His name. His DJ name? Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Love it. That's so confusing. You need to change that.

[Oscar]

Well, I. Dj. DJ O. And his name is Joe. I mean, this is. I am not like for. I don't go here.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I think DJ O sounds better than djo. Djo.

[Oscar]

Should I look up how to pronounce it?

[Moses]

D. Joe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dj. That's what he said.

[Moses]

His name is Joe. Yeah, yeah, so it's D. Joe.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what you said. But I think DJO sounds better.

[Moses]

Joe, like a dj.

[Oscar]

Okay. Yes, it is pronounced like Joe, so with a D. A D. Joe. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Chronically online girl loves dj.

[Oscar]

She really does. She's always running into him in New York every time. She's always, like, posting a story and she was running into him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what? That's okay. Love it. I need to know those ways I'd be just always running to Gerard way. Be like, oh, what? Didn't know you were here. That's crazy. But I love it. Love the synergy.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. And yeah, everyone's shipping it. He seems nice. Obviously he's on Stranger Things was very successful and he's already a pretty successful artist. Oh, and Taylor Swift said. He said that Taylor Swift is a fan of his music. Like, she came out to him and said that Sabrina and Taylor. I'm seeing the synergies. Yeah, I'm seeing it all kind of come together.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like a girly pop guy then.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I guess so. I don't know much about him. He's good in Stranger Things.

[Trisha Paytas]

What you see in Stranger Things. Which one? We watched one season, the last season. Who was he? Was he in it?

[Oscar]

Yeah, he's. He's been in since season one.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is one of the little boys.

[Oscar]

No, you know, like the older sis. Like the teen sister. It was like the teen sister. The, the. The other brother. And then the other guy, he's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

The cool teenage one but obviously wasn't a teenager if he's 33.

[Oscar]

Well, Stranger Things was like 30 years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true. That is true. Is it the ones like. Chrissy, wake up.

[Oscar]

No, no, no, that's. Isn't that Joseph Quinn or. No. Oh, I don't remember. Joseph Quinn was Eddie who you cosplayed.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I could just go, okay, not him. Why don't think of an older boy.

[Oscar]

He had like sunglasses on. He had the big hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

The hair I recognize because I know, like on Jimmy Fallon. I seen him play the character, but like I did not remember him.

[Oscar]

Steve.

[Trisha Paytas]

Steve. Steve from Minecraft. Love the name. Steve.

[Oscar]

Is it. Weren't they in a love triangle like Steve, Nancy and. And Jonathan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jonathan.

[Oscar]

The, the, the, the. The. What's his name? The one everyone hates. What's his name? No, Schnapp. No, Schnapp's brother. Wasn't he Noah Schnapp's brother?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. This sounds like maybe season one or something. I'm on season five when people are getting evicted. You know what I mean? I haven't watched the other ones, so I don't know. He was in that.

[Oscar]

Yes. And so was Maya Hawk. Oh, he worked at the ice cream shop with Maya Hawk. Was that in season five?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Blockbuster with a little hat? I thought they were working at a video place, but yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, maybe it was a video place. I thought it was ice cream.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember him.

[Oscar]

Strange things has a problem because by the time this is going to come out, this in a couple months, in a month. And I. We have no recollection of.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I know. My mind just got.

[Oscar]

No, I think that's kind of. I think a lot of people are probably in a similar boat because it's been two, three years.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. You forget three years.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened? That's kind of how it was with Wednesday when we were watching the second season. I was like, who's this? Moses remembered every character that was meant for him that show. I was like, wow. How did you remember all that? Yeah, I forget. It is hard. It's hard to remember what happened. They need a little recap.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I know. A long recap actually. Because I feel like this is the final season.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like it should just re. Watch.

[Oscar]

Oh, the season.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should too. From the beginning.

[Oscar]

Daring cameo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yay. Good to see you. Thank you for coming. I was just saying. Oh, my God, you look so cute. Wow. You guys should have a podcast together. What would you call your podcast?

[Oscar]

Twink in the Otter.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I love it. Is he Twink? He's giving kind of.

[Oscar]

He's like a twonk. Yeah, he's definitely twunk these days.

[Trisha Paytas]

He looks great.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Yeah. I ever just like, damn.

[Oscar]

Yeah, especially he, like, because he's always like. Even when he wasn't working out, like, always looks like has like a good physique. But yeah, now that he works out, it's like he like gets the muscle so quick. He builds so fast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

Literally anything. Literally anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, like, that would just piss me off.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he binge eats like chocolate covered almonds and peanuts and popcorn, like at midnight. Like, eats the whole.

[Trisha Paytas]

So ripped.

[Oscar]

Yep. Yep.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so not fair. Yeah, that's crazy. That to me, I think that's winning the lottery in life.

[Oscar]

It's like actually crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's very me.

[Moses]

Just not ripped, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Moses]

Eating chocolate at night is like my favorite thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Moses does eat like chocolates and Coca Cola like every single night, which is crazy. Yeah, you're like lucky. You are your favorite.

[Moses]

If I go to the gym, I'll quickly.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But I just don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have solid thighs. You are very strong. Yes, you are very strong.

[Moses]

I was just talking about the chocolate. There's some people. I remember when Jeff was here. It was like that too. Like, he just munches on candy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jeff Wittek.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Oh, everyone remembering the Jeff interview, except.

[Trisha Paytas]

You remember that too. He said he loves chocolate and never gains weight. I missed that part.

[Moses]

I was not like, eating candy at night. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Okay. Yeah, I did. I missed that for sure. But that is. That's. Yeah. I mean, people are just lucky. Just genetically.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

If I eat. If I eat chocolate, I'm like, like five. I literally gained five pounds. If I eat chocolate, it's like insane. It's so wild. Like, I can eat one piece of pizza. It's crazy. Like, now, even at 37, like, I could literally, like, do a mini fast, like a grapefruit and egg. And, like, that's all I eat for the whole day. And, like, it takes me maybe four days to lose a pound doing that.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Back in the day, I could just drink water for three days and lose, like, 20 pounds in three days. It does not work. I tried. I would try to water fast, like maybe four or five years ago. Did not work anymore. Just like, you're going to stay the same, actually, you're gonna just not. So at this point, that's why I'm just kind of like. I'm like, I'm just gonna eat because, like, whatever. If I'm gonna say this because kind of what I eat too. If I just, like, eat, like, what I eat when I'm hungry, I just say the same. So it's like, okay, do I just not eat or do I eat and say the same? Might as well eat and say the same. Does not work for me. But, you know, whatever. Teacher, home. Everyone has different. What was I saying? I think I was saying the same one has different struggles. I think I was.

[Moses]

Metabolism.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh? What?

[Moses]

I was gonna say metabolism.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me?

[Moses]

No, Everyone has different metabolism.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That part of my head was like, no. What was I blessed with? I don't know. Let me honestly.

[Oscar]

Singer, actor, dancer, producing, directing.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, If I had, like. If I was like, a really good singer. Yeah, I could be on. I could be. You know what I mean? Like. Like Jack Black says in School of Rock, it's like, Kim, Aretha Franklin, like, they're really talented, so it doesn't matter their size. Right. Like, people just saw their talent. But, like, I lack that, too. I lack a little bit of everything. I lack a little bit of education. I lack a little bit of talent. I lack nuance. I don't know what that means. I think I lack nuance. You know when people say there's a lot of room for nuance, what does that mean? People always use that word.

[Oscar]

It's like not black and white. It's like, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So can I say I lack nuance or. That doesn't make sense.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You are very extreme. Where it's like one way or the other versus, like, you know, sometimes there's. There's things on both sides. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also called splitting in borderline personality world. So that's also me. Where it's just all one thing or the other.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

Because have you seen that one tick tock of like a mom with stretch marks and her kids thought she was a demon because of K Pop demon hunter. They were crying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Look, I think I first, I do love stretch marks. I know. I just want to preface it by saying I wouldn't. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't. But I'm just saying, I guess that's, like, one thing people always like. They'd see my body. Like, I did a music video last week where I was, like, in my underwear and my glam was like, oh, you have no stretch marks. And I was like, it's a gift. I also think my belly just, like, stretches in and out so much since I was 5 years old that it's just, like, elasticized. It's just, like, used to it, as opposed to some women to just grow. But, yes, I did not see that TikTok. But did you see Bo and Yang K Pop Demon Hunters with Bad Bunny? Oh, you know what? The girls were on. The singers.

[Moses]

They were on snl.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were. And they were saying Golden Lies.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

How did I not see that? Like, we're going up. And the girls, as you pointed out, they do look so cool. Like, they look like the real singers. They look like, like, 100.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And they were so. And their vocals were live. They were singing live. And Bad Bunny had, like. He was, like, obsessed with K Pop Demon Hunters, and it was, like, in his, like, little dream. And it was. And everyone was like, maybe a crossover at the Super Bowl. Bad Bunny.

[Oscar]

Wait, that would actually be so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would be everything Moses was telling me. Were you telling me that, like, Sony made K Pop Demon Hunters and, like, didn't want it, so they sold Netflix here? Yeah, we talked about it here.

[Moses]

I mean, Sony didn't believe in the project, so they pretty much gave it to Netflix for, like, nothing. Yeah, they were like, we just want 20 million. After they invested 100 million, went 20 million from the profits, and now this is like Netflix says, this is their frozen moment. Like, this is as big as Frozen. Number one on the billboards everywhere for weeks now.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it was pretty cool, so. Oh, my God, it was so good. I love the. I love that snl the entire. This whole week. But that one was really good as well. I, like, loved it so much.

[Moses]

And my favorite thing in the movie is that tiger, that character. And now I found out that the. Basically the tiger and the. The bird, they go together, and it's like a very. It's like a folk. Korean folk.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Moses]

And the tiger is always made to look a bit, you know, like, not smart because the tiger represents the ruling class.

[Oscar]

Oh, wow.

[Moses]

So basically, it was a way they would make fun of the elite. But, you know, the bird is the smart one. But that's the common people so it goes back, everything in the movie goes back to like Korean folklore and it's. And I just love that character so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyway, I rewatched it and I will say I do. Like I remember like a couple weeks ago, a week ago, I was like, I don't really get it. But again, this is what I'm saying. I like sometimes don't get things the first pass. But then when I watch like discourse about it, I'm always like, or like read it. Like I. Then I get it and I rewatch it and I'm like, oh, I can see it in such a different way. I can. You know, it's, it's very. I see it with nuance, you know, Like I really do like it. I like the songs. I always did like the songs. Like I did love golden and I did love the Soda Pop song. But now I love like even like the demon like her because I was like so confused. I'm like, okay, why would she like want to kill demons? She's a demon. So even like that whole struggle like I didn't really get until people explained it to me. Which is why I'm thankful for this podcast because some things I don't get.

[Oscar]

And something crazy though. Oscars because original song now like I thought Wicked because they have a new original songs in Wicked for good. And I was like, of course whatever song they do is going to win best original song. But now I'm like, it's gonna be Wicked or K Pop Demon Hunters.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is that an eligible for Oscar? Is it like a movie?

[Oscar]

Yeah, because it's a, it's an animated movie. So I'm sure the film will be nominated for best like animated movie. But then the music, it's all original music for the movie and it's so big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh no.

[Oscar]

That like that's Wicked's biggest. I thought it was such an easy no brainer. They're gonna get like Ariana and Cynthia are gonna get an Oscar for whatever original song they do, but that's probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gonna be K pop. Well, in this case I would say I want K Pop Demon because like I would assume Wicked's gonna just get a ton of awards this year. Like I'm sure the best actress. Yeah, I mean last year I was saying something Revil should have won but I really think this year they'll be probably win.

[Moses]

But it's more for the musicians because I remember when Frozen came out, there were a lot of big bands and musicians that had really good songs that year, but they had no chance they just had no chance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, to let it go. But remember when Akanto was so big and lost to. I believe Billie Eilish won that year. So it could happen. Like, it could. Like, Encanto was huge. Remember, we don't talk about. Bruno was like, everywhere, and it's like, did not win. Yeah. Damn, that sucks. Well, I know.

[Oscar]

Granted, we haven't even heard the Wicked for good original songs yet.

[Moses]

See how this song will do.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's obviously gonna be beautiful. Yeah. But this. That one is catchy.

[Oscar]

It's so. And it's just so big. And I think because it, like, was not, like, an IP or whatever going into it, that also gives it a little, like, boost.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, really is just fully original, which.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is like, what we lack. What we were watching. Oh, we were watching wizard of Oz the other day, the original. And I was like, God, it is crazy not to be that person. But it is crazy that, like. Like, we don't make, like, original classics anymore. There's no, like, movies that are, like, that's a classic, you know?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nothing original. Like, what can you think of that's, like, a classic movie in the past five years?

[Oscar]

Oh, five years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Sorry. Knocking everything down. That's, like, original. Like, nothing. Right? Like, nothing's original anymore. Everything's sequels or prequels or remakes. It's like.

[Oscar]

I guess it would be like a movie that, like, was a huge, like, financial and critical success. I feel like, makes the classic. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Blair Witch Project is our new wizard of Oz. No, I don't know. Oh, it's the one I made of money that was like, blair Witch. And I was like, oh, it made so much money. I was like, this indie one and it made so much money. Was there one like that, or am I just like.

[Oscar]

God, it sounds familiar. Oh, are you thinking of, like, weapons or something?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. Maybe that sounds right or something. Yeah.

[Oscar]

But not like, that much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Who's classic? Classic? I guess Avatar. Is that original?

[Moses]

Yeah, but even that is, like, not in the last five years.

[Oscar]

That was like. Yeah, 2004.

[Moses]

I mean, every. The movie took them 10 years to make a movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That's our last classic. I don't like it, but I'm saying, generally people like it.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll be in it if you ask me to. Don't they have, like, 30 more years of Avatar left? Like, I'll do it, but my husband is a water artist himself, so.

[Oscar]

Oh, but you'd have to do. You'd be like, motion capture. You'd be fine with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that? It sounds scary the way you said that.

[Oscar]

Like, you know, they have like the helmet and all the little things on you and then you act, but then they just use your, like, motion and face to animate the.

[Trisha Paytas]

My motion would lack. Remember me running that clip I showed you on Patreon of me running in my music video and my. Literally my feet did not come off the ground. Like, I'm the only person who run. Like, it was. It was crazy. I remember seeing that in the music video and being like, mortified. And we kept it in. It's like, whatever. And also my mom bringing it up today, being like, well, we're not runners. And I was like, okay, mom, like, true, we're not. But yeah, maybe not. I'm just not good with my body. Like, I don't think they'd want to capture my emotion. I'll Moses be my stand in. He could do movement or something. Yeah, we just don't. We just don't have classics. But K pop D100 is very original. And that could be our new wizard of Oz.

[Moses]

I guess it's gonna be even bigger than it is now. Just kind of crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, I can't wait for wicked for good though. Malbo just got her Elphaba hat. Moses just sent me a picture upstairs. Where did you find it?

[Moses]

In my office. Like, if I. Because yesterday I was telling her we need to get her a witch costume because she always just grabs a broom and runs around.

[Trisha Paytas]

She loves it.

[Moses]

She's like, I'm a witch. The way she says it too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need my witch broom. I need my witch broom. Yeah, I'm a witch.

[Moses]

So in my office, I found that witch hat.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy. She's giving alpha. She loves defying gravity. She watches the end of that and over. But she's getting witch. When I was a kid, I really thought I was a witch too. I used to have spell books and stuff that I made myself. So she is. She could be. We're all a little witchy. All of us females are a little witchy, I think in the best way possible.

[Moses]

And she witches every day. You know, she's basically. She's usually a princess in the day and Spiderman at night, but now she is also a witch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. Somehow she is my daughter. She's like, well, what can I be today? Today I'm a witch. And then Moses found the hat and I was like, okay. She is giving the.

[Moses]

This morning she was very specific. She woke up, she got out of bed. She's like, I want to be a Cinderella. Where's my dress? So we went to her closet. She was looking for it. She can't find them. Like, okay, let's go. Maybe it's in the laundry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, yeah.

[Moses]

She's very specific.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what she loves, too? We've watched when you're asking what we did this weekend, watching Snow White Whistle while you work 5000 times. As soon it's over, Matt was like, watch it again. And even Elvis, she'll do the whistle now. Whistle while you work. Like, did they do it as like, we need call Richard Suckler instantly and, like, get her over here. Because, like, they're obsessed. They love that movie. They love hi Ho and they love whistleblow work. So honestly, they need a sequel.

[Oscar]

Snow White 2 with you instead of Gal Gadot.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would be the best Evil Queen ever. I would be. Yes, absolutely. Let's actually remake.

[Oscar]

Explain the recast at all.

[Moses]

Notice you're too pretty for the role. You're too pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's supposed to be pretty. The evil. Thank you. But she's supposed to be pretty because the mayor says, who's the fairest of them all? And he's always like, you are. You're the most beautiful in all the kingdom. But when he finally says Snow White, she's like. Like that. And then she's like, she needs to be killed. So she always was, like, beautiful. She transforms into ugly to, like, sneak and whatever. We never get that far. In the movie. We literally just watch the whistle work. But I do know that, like, the background. You know what? She loves Righteous Gemstones too. Not the show, but she loves the song. She listens that on repeat. She calls it Mommy and abba. She's like, oh, I want to watch you guys sing. She thinks it's us singing, which I love. I loved that song. But now we've watched it probably like 5,000 times this weekend. And I was like, like. And it pops up because it's on, like, YouTube. So it pops up on the page. And she always wants to watch that one. And I was like, so we watched it over.

[Moses]

It's like, us. We get excited to watch them sing. So she gets excited to watch us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what do you mean?

[Moses]

Like, we'll put songs just to see Malibu and Elvis sing. Yeah, we get excited that they know some lyrics and that they sing. So for her, it's probably exciting with it to see us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she acts out. She's. I wore lipstick. Like, she'll act it out. I don't know how we got on that tangent, but Snow White, what are we talking about? Oh, Princesses, Spider Man, Classic Avatar, which.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Classics. And K Pop Demon Hunters. Well, that song is catchy though, I'm not gonna lie. So, yeah, you know, we're talking about McDonald's earlier having that golden sauce. Maybe it is based on K Pop Demon Hunters because, like, why else would they have a golden sauce?

[Oscar]

And right now when the song is like, number one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting. I love it. The girls were beautiful on SNL's like, damn there.

[Oscar]

So I know. It's so interesting that they are the singers and then the voice actors are different girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do that a lot. They do that with, like, Aladdin. Like, DJ's boyfriend was the voice of Aladdin, but then Brad Keene was a singing voice. I think they all. But Frozen. I think Frozen. The actors do singing.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think back in the day they did that a lot.

[Oscar]

So interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Demi Moore was the voice of Esmeralda and different singer. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the rock was both the voice singing and the voice actor of Moana.

[Oscar]

And same with Alai. And as she was Moana, I guess now Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Pretty much like, if you want a voice act, you gotta. You gotta sing it. We're only hiring one of you. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Budget cuts. Like, we gotta get the two for one on this. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Yeah. They looked like a girl group.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So fierce. Jake Paul. Oh, have you seen him?

[Oscar]

Have you seen Jake Paul? Oh, I have seen the AI Jake.

[Trisha Paytas]

My also was taking over my timeline this weekend. Moses thought it was real.

[Moses]

I saw one of him, like, dancing around, so. Okay, he's dancing around.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's great. No, this one is so real. I've seen like 5,000. I've seen the one of him doing makeup tutorials.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like the foundation. Did you see the one where he has, like, a guy friend come over?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he's like, oh, man. Like, like, great to see. And it's like, obviously, like, giving. They're gonna hook up.

[Oscar]

That's scary.

[Moses]

So one of them, like, celebrating like a Jewish holiday, like, oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why are they using Jake Paul to do this? Do you think he has any input in this? Or you think someone's just, like, doing this?

[Oscar]

I. I imagine he would not want to be seen doing something gay. So I. I don't know.

[Moses]

I've seen. I see a lot of post about this. The new, like, AI video app. App thing. I have a feeling like it is kind of a promotional thing for the app.

[Oscar]

Oh, is this Jake Paul a part of it?

[Moses]

There must be like, because to use his likeness like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I agree. Maybe. But then I kind of get what you're saying. We're like, now that you're saying that, I'm like, yeah. What? He what?

[Moses]

Because it's kind of like he's the perfect person for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But why is he doing, like, girly pop things? Why would he not be doing something like anything else?

[Moses]

To show the extent of how crazy you can go with that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because his fiance, Jetta, she was on Tick Tock and being like, my whole fyp. Is my fiance Beyonce right now, like, putting on makeup.

[Moses]

Exactly. So they're like in on it, talking about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It looks so real. But that's so scary. That's so scary.

[Moses]

It is crazy what this app can do.

[Trisha Paytas]

They can just. Is it available to everyone?

[Moses]

Pretty much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. That's my whole FYP too. It's just Jake Paul doing makeup tutorials.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It's so weird because I remember hearing something with Meta. They had like, AI chat bots and they were using celebrities without their permission. Like, it was. One was Taylor Swift. It was like Anne Hathaway, Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez. And people were using it for, like, sexual things. And once it got reported, like, by publications, like, they had to remove some celebrities, but, like, they never gave their permission to be like, chat bots on Meta.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So what do they do? Who do they sue? What do they do?

[Oscar]

I don't know. They were ended up removing some because. Yeah, like, you're using. It's not like, endorsed by Selena Gomez, you know, to use her voice and let's miss a chat with her. But Carla Johnson, that she was one of them too.

[Moses]

The case. But you remember her case that she won.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

That they use, like, her voice. Like, her voice is so similar to hers that it's pretty much her voice.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Even though they said it, it's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm surprised that she won because I just feel like if you change it slightly, you know, like, they could be like, no, it's not you.

[Moses]

It's like, not. Not enough. They didn't change it enough for a judge or a jury to agree that it was changed enough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, I hate it so much. That's so weird.

[Oscar]

Yeah. They open. AI used Scarlet Johansson's voice and it was int. And they were able to prove that it was. They. They intentionally created the voice designed to replicate Scarlet's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they did. How did they prove that in court?

[Moses]

I guess you can you just analyze sound Waves. You can show them. And I'm sure. I'm sure they overlapped it and they showed it matches.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like she kind of was, like, at the start of A.I. remember that movie with watching Phoenix. Yeah. Where she was like, the AI So.

[Oscar]

Maybe that's why they use. They wanted to, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, this is what happens. You were the original AI So now you are the AI Scary. I know. Like, what else can they do? I don't know. Do you really?

[Moses]

Anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think it'll take over for real? Like, everyone's so scared. Like, everyone I know is like. Like, directors or actors are just like, oh, we're, like, going to be replaced by AI I know.

[Oscar]

It is really scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, do you think it'll happen? What does that even mean? We're just watching AI Entertainment.

[Oscar]

I guess so. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, man.

[Moses]

Because one of the things. Because I always thought, okay, I can do, I don't know, like, technical things, but not artistic things. But it's been writing music and songs and creating vocals that are like, you know, like, you would hear it. You're like, this isn't a great song.

[Trisha Paytas]

How are they doing?

[Moses]

It's completely made out of A.I. like, it doesn't. But person doesn't exist.

[Oscar]

Like, everything is like a reference. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. So what does that mean? Are, like, humans gonna cease to exist? Like, where does that. Why are we even here? Do you know what I mean?

[Moses]

Somebody needs to consume it. I mean, it doesn't. There's no. If there's nobody listening to the song, there's no point of AI making.

[Trisha Paytas]

But how are we gonna, like, buy the songs if we can't work?

[Oscar]

Excellent.

[Moses]

Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know? Oh, like, if everyone. If AI is taking over everything, robots are taking over this idea of, like.

[Moses]

Universal income where everyone gets a certain amount of money for just being alive or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

So. Oh.

[Moses]

So it just depends if that's a place.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then society wants to go to robot. Like, the Tesla diner is like, robot serving you burgers. That's our future. Wow, that's kind of scary.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so then humans are here just to consume.

[Oscar]

You're making such deep points. Well, yeah, that's the whole, like, kind.

[Moses]

Of like the movie Wall E. Very.

[Oscar]

That.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar]

Remember Wally the Robot?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wally in animation?

[Oscar]

Yeah, the Disney Pixar.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't really watch a cartoon, but what is it about?

[Oscar]

You just watch K Pop Demon Hunter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. Which that person didn't like because it was a cartoon. I was like, oh, I didn't know. This is a Cartoon. It's hard for me to get to.

[Moses]

That's like a full. Like a automated world, and people don't do anything. But. But the world was, like, trashed.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Did they leave?

[Oscar]

Yeah, like, the Earth was trashed.

[Moses]

So they leave and they send this robot to clean up or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wally's the robot that cleans up.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happens is he dies. I'm sad. Wally. Is that it?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what is he. What happens? Is it sad?

[Oscar]

I forgot how.

[Moses]

It didn't end sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone just runs him over.

[Moses]

You know, they always. They always make friends and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Wally, maybe he should meet E.T.

[Oscar]

Well, he has a girlfriend named Eve.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or Wally.

[Oscar]

Yeah. He meets a girlfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do they.

[Moses]

So they're like the new Generation.

[Trisha Paytas]

We watch five episodes a night. They're 22 minutes each. I do love that show. That show is a good show, honestly. They really wrote that exceptionally. I love when they introduce, like, the other females coming into the way. Like, right now, we're on the season where there's, like, Howard's fiance. God, I can't remember their names.

[Moses]

We watch it with B. Howard starts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Howard's fiance is.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, Bernadette.

[Trisha Paytas]

And who's Mayim Balak? She's Amy Fairfowler. Yeah. And they never have sex, her and Sheldon. In fact, the last episode, Leonard was like, I don't even think Sheldon has genitals because he never talks about having sex. Or coitus, if you will. It's such a crazy show. It's so good. They didn't bring that back. That and dropped a diva.

[Oscar]

Well, there's a million Big Bang Theory spin offs that you can move on to next.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not young Sheldon. Can I say Sheldon is growing on me? I do like his character. He really is the star of the show, huh?

[Oscar]

And let me. Him as a. As a young chap. So charming.

[Trisha Paytas]

So is Jim Parsons in the Young Sheldon or.

[Oscar]

No, he's the narrator of it. Like, the monologue. The internal monologue is Jim Parsons.

[Trisha Paytas]

And is he acting like old Sheldon? Like, young Sheldon has the same characteristics as old Sheldon.

[Moses]

Yeah. As a kid. It's him as a kid.

[Oscar]

Smart. I guess. Autistic. That's kind of his character, right? Yeah, like, he's kind of cuter. He. Everything he does is, like, cute because he's a little boy. Like, it's, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Yeah, it's endearing. Yeah.

[Oscar]

He's like, oh, he's just little. Oh, you know. Oh, he's annoying, but he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, Sheldon is annoying, but he keeps that in as A grown adult, too. It's like, what is Sheldon?

[Oscar]

So it's more. It's more cutesy, I guess, because he's a little kid.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, yeah, maybe I do love Sheldon. And you did say Billy Gardell for Mike and Molly. Oh, yeah, we found out.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's another spin off, so. Okay, maybe I will. No Penny, though I do love Penny, too, so. And Leonard. Leonard was shirtless last night for the first time. He took his shirt off, and I was like, hey, Leonard. He also. He's giving Darian a little bit. Not, like, in the sense it's, like, ripped. Like, you know, ripped. Johnny Galecki, who kind of looks like you when he takes his glasses off on the show. I'm like, he looks like Oscar. He's cute. He's cute. Compliment. I love him. You met him, interviewed him. I love him. Dream guest Johnny Galecki. I loved him on Roseanne. I loved him in Big Bang. They're probably still rich. They probably never. Because you. Someone asked either you. And my mom was like, what do these people do now? And, like, honestly, they probably just made so much money from 12 seasons of big Bang.

[Oscar]

They did. They were, like, the most paid cast in TV for years.

[Trisha Paytas]

@ the Warner Brothers lot is where they filmed it. That's amazing. That's. The dream is to get on, like, a sitcom. Like that, right? Is to. They don't really make sitcoms. Just that one with Tim Allen we were watching the other day. That a sitcom, but they don't really make sitcoms anymore. Those were good.

[Moses]

Another thing you can bring back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I would love to. I love a sitcom. I just don't know if there's, like, demand for it. I think people.

[Moses]

I think it's just good writing is what's missing.

[Trisha Paytas]

AI. Just kidding.

[Moses]

Not AI.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, there is AI on Tik Tok that do sitcoms. They were doing, like, sitcom jokes, and it was, like, a whole compilation of it. And they write, like, sitcoms and sitcom jokes just like the old sitcoms. And they're so funny, too. And it's like, how do they do that? It's scary. I don't like it. I'm not supportive of it. But here we are talking about it again. Okay, Johnny collection. Okay. Leonard. No, you were giving me Leonard because he squints, too. Remember last night he took his glasses off with Raj's sister, and he, like, couldn't see her. He's like, I see. Oh, my gosh.

[Moses]

Why do people with glasses look up a bit?

[Oscar]

To help you, like, get your focus.

[Trisha Paytas]

You look like, yeah, put it side by side. Do it to the camera. You look like, wow.

[Moses]

Because he always. He never like, he's always, always. Look it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's like, I like it. Oh, my God. Wait, that's so weird. You look just like him. Why do you look so different without your glasses?

[Oscar]

They're so smudged right now, dude, I cannot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that's so weird. You're also giving Macaulay Culkin in My Girl when you put on your glasses without your glasses. You're giving Leonard with your glasses. It's giving me Culkin. Do you remember when he got stung by bees and he could. And at his funeral, she put the glasses on him and she can't see without the glasses.

[Oscar]

He died.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spoiler alert.

[Oscar]

By damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was allergic to bees.

[Oscar]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the little girl from My Girl. Her dad, Dan Aykroyd, ran a funeral home, so she got to, like, see him. It's really sad. That actually might be one of the saddest scenes in history. I'm like, why would they. Yeah, awful. That's what, like Big Bang Theory. It's so, like, light hearted. There's like nothing too serious happening.

[Oscar]

Well, just you wait.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? What happens? Someone dies.

[Oscar]

One of them becomes like a serial killer.

[Moses]

I didn't believe.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, Sheldon has been off. No. You don't believe it?

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I couldn't see. But what if that was like, in real life, one of them. You know what I mean? It's like Glee. The dark cast of Glee. Like later on, they're all become, like, dubious and you're just like, oh, my God. Well, just one became dubious, I should say, right? There wasn't any other felons out there on that show.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think you're right for some.

[Trisha Paytas]

Reason, Mark selling scary. So scary how you can be on like a big show like that and have that, like, darkness.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Underlying. You can't really watch it the same either. When you watch it, you're kind of like, ew, they should cut him out.

[Oscar]

Well, speaking of darkness, is if I were the Queen of Darkness.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think so.

[Oscar]

Right? Isn't that her title?

[Trisha Paytas]

Mistress of the Dark?

[Oscar]

Oh, maybe that's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that sounds right. I love her. What's she in the news for? Cassandra Peterson.

[Oscar]

Oh, well, she's clapping back at Ariana Grande again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, just kidding. Sorry. We have to stay in Ariana forever and ever. She can literally do no wrong. Look, all those donuts, baby. I love her like she's the queen. They're doing a podcast run. Did you see that rumor?

[Oscar]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, ooh. So people were tagging us, like, wicked cast rumored to be doing a podcast. Run this for their press.

[Oscar]

Oh, I did see the rumor. Ariana was on therapist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She followed Jake Shane.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fitting.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that does make sense. You know what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Jake Shane is the influencer.

[Oscar]

But even Slater, I feel like, makes sense for just Trish because he's on a show I watch now called Gen V. Oh, yeah, he's on this show called Gen V, which is a spin off of the Boys. And Gen V had a just Trish Easter egg in it, and Ethan Slater stars in that show, so. I see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it an actual just dress or just have, like, plaid?

[Oscar]

Well, the influencer character had a podcast called Just Just right. And she's like the gossipy kind of girl who's, like, always doing tick tocks and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

She have a microphone?

[Oscar]

Yes, yes. And her podcast was just Justine. Everything is a Easter egg to, like, something in pop culture. So I am clocking. That is just. And Ethan Slater is in this season. He's like the star of the season.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he good?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've always been an Ethan Slater fan of his acting.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I don't want to say too much because I don't want to spoil, because it's still on, but I got screeners, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see. How'd you get those?

[Oscar]

Somehow I am on Prime. Oh, I know why. For the Rihanna fashion show, Amazon put me on their screener list, and then now they just send me every screener that comes out. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boosh.

[Oscar]

But anyway, I see Ethan Slater on the pink chair as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can finally do your tunnel. Ethan Slater. Just do it here. Just do the one and only. He'd probably be down. Just declap it. He had the best hunt of all time. My opinion. So Ethan Slater, come on down to just Trish. Would be. Would be.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would love. Would love.

[Oscar]

Well, I have an Ethan Slater hot topic too. I guess we'll start with Elvira. But for recap, Elvira was doing a Q A last. Was it? God, was that last year when that happened?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes, yes, we talked about it.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Literally. October 2024. Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Another year here I come out of retirement for Halloween. A couple silly things and bounce.

[Oscar]

She did a fan Q and A and someone asked about the rudest celebrity she met. And she met. She talked about. She said Ariana was. Because ariana had wanted 20 or 21 tickets to one of her shows and to take photos backstage with. With her friends and relatives. And she. Elvira says she took a photo with every single one of them. And she signed autographs, but then asked Ariana to take a photo with her too. And Ariana allegedly declined taking a photo with Elvira at El show.

[Trisha Paytas]

After all that, what was our take on it?

[Oscar]

I think contextually, we, like, timing wise, it was right after the Manchester terrorist attack. Yeah. So she didn't want to be, like, just kind of having fun. Ptsd, kind of like, mindset. Because Ariana apologized for that on Instagram. She's. After this went viral, she said, I'm so disheartened to see this. I actually don't remember getting the chance to meet you because I had an anxiety attack into my memory left before the rest of my family, and that it happened around seven years ago. And she was not great with being in public or crowds or loud places because it was so soon after the Manchester attack. And she said, if I miss remembering this, misremembering this moment, I sincerely apologize for offending you. And she did say Elvira was really lovely to her mom and to Frankie, But Elvira was just doing an interview with EW and got asked about the apology, and she said it didn't sit right with her because. Oh, yeah. Because in the Instagram apology that Ariana posted, she said her mom used to love Elvira, but maybe thinks differently now. Like, after Elvira came for her and Elvira said, what's the word? You know, where you do something, but you really have other thoughts in mind. Like, thank you. Not really thank you. After that response from her. No, I just let the whole thing drop. And they haven't spoken since the incident. I told the story that really happened. She did it. I wasn't making it up. It was very offensive. I had all the celebrities who had ever come to my show, and there was a ton, Were always gracious and kind, and she was not. I'm sorry to say that it's disappointing when you hear things like that and learn things like that. It's sad, but, oh, well, girl, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Think we gotta let this just actually go. She's like, I'd let it go. I dropped it. But also, I'll acknowledge it here. Like, if you dropped, you just, like, moved on. It's fine. Yeah, no comment. Whatever.

[Oscar]

I think Ari's like, explanation or. Yeah, like, the context that is so important, because I can. I literally. I laugh because it's so insane. Like, I cannot think of anything more traumatic than that. So like, especially I feel like she has an excuse for life because that is so traumatic, let alone, like, right after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

If someone said explain that, I'd be like, oh, damn. Like, obviously, mentally you were going through it. Probably trigger just being by around people. Probably very, like, the PTSD coming in. So, like, I get why you just didn't want to have the photo. Also, if she posts a vote, then people know where she's at. There's that aspect as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah, I. I, yeah, completely side with her. But I do think it's so, like, when someone apologizes, I truly feel like you should always, like, accept someone's fall apology. But you said on top of that, like, she explained why, like, then added, I was going through something traumatic at that point. Like, you really can't be like. It's like, if someone's like, oh, but my, like, father just died or something. You can't be like, no excuse. You're still rude. It's like, well, obviously, that's a very big not excuse. Very big reasoning why someone would be. Yikes. That might be an L for Elvira.

[Oscar]

That's a good little. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think so. Gosh. Oh, yeah. Wow, girl.

[Oscar]

Except the apology. No one asked Elvira about Arya.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, please, no idea.

[Oscar]

We've healed. And then now it's like, oh, shoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that says a lot, right? That's all you got to ask her about, you know? It's like, well, damn. Like, maybe just what was she promoting? Elira? Was she.

[Oscar]

Great question.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like her. I was like, me too.

[Oscar]

She is an icon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I just hate, especially now that I'm becoming an older woman of a certain age. I hate, like, when older women are just, like, giving bitter, like, let it go. You know what I mean? As someone who's, like, rude, you gotta just, like, let it go. If you felt like someone was rude to you. And then you explained why she was.

[Oscar]

She has a new cookbook she's promoting. Elvira's cookbook from hell.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? Good for her for making that character last 50 years. Oh, my gosh. That's, like, insane that she's still this, like, fixture because she was on in the 80s, like, you know, hosting B movies at, like, midnight. So the fact that she's still, like, getting book deals, it is kind of impressive.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Baiting on Ariana is not the way to go. Especially when Ariana apologized. Like, also, like, Ariana apologizing in, like, the height of, like, wicked is, like, wild. Like, I would have been like, I'm just gonna Keep it moving because it does not bother me. But the fact that she had to, like, she did, like, apologize, then also told. Explained why she didn't have a picture with her.

[Oscar]

It's like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Alone. That's, like. That would be embarrassing enough for me. I'd be like, you know what? Yeah, you're right. Like, I don't know. I just. All right, Elvira. Well, I guess you gotta talk about something. You know, maybe more people buy her cookbook. Maybe the Ariana haters will be like, wow, we're gonna support this woman now. I don't know if that's how it works anymore. I don't know if Ariana has any haters. If she has no haters, how does that work? I'm dead.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Am I the hater? No. I'm the opposite of the hater.

[Oscar]

If she has no lovers, you are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

If there's no Ariana's left, I'm dead. If Ariana has haydurs, they're dead. I really do love her. She really won me over with Glinda. She's just the best. I wonder if there's any early screenings happening. Has anyone seen it yet? I've had no word from Universal. I think my loyalty to Warner Brothers has really.

[Oscar]

Cutie went to the Wicked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the concert. She said it was amazing at the Dopey. And there was a lot of people. Gabby DeMartino was there. Everybody was there. I did not get the invite, but that's okay. I don't need to. It's fine. I don't feel entitled at all. I really don't. But my biggest pet peeve lately, and look, I'm so, so guilty of this, but, like, again, I love when I can, like, hold a mirror to myself with other influencers is when influencers are bitter that they don't get. We're just talking about this on Hot Topic. Influencers being mad.

[Oscar]

It was like the PR list for the Louis Vuitton. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that gave me a big ick. And I think I need to start, like. You know what I mean? Because sometimes you do feel a certain way. You're just like. Like the pot, you know, like, you see Alex Earl and, like, happy. I was like, well, I could have been happy. You know what I mean? But it's like, that's just not a good look. So I think the. Yeah. If people want to work out, like, actually, I'm excited for them. You know what? Good for them.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, it's better to be that way. Yeah. So Ethan Slater.

[Oscar]

Well, there was a Daily Mail article that said, why Ariana. Why Ariana Grande's fairy tale is over, and why Ethan Slater is struggling to keep up with her life. I heard insiders open up about split rumors to Dominique Hines for Spotlight and how he's patched things up with his ex wife that he. Yeah. Which.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. What?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I don't know if I. I don't know if I believe it because only Daily Mail was only one to report it.

[Trisha Paytas]

The split.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Or even just the rumors like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I had seen. This is not gonna help the case of him getting on our podcast because now we're discussing about him. But I had seen an interview. Must have been for that show or something. He was like, on a carpet. And they were asked about Ariana. They asked, did you see that at all about.

[Oscar]

Because the tickets had just gone on sale. Was it that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes, yes. Like, oh, to everyone who got one. But it made it seem very much like he has no idea what's going on in her life. Oh, it's what people insinuated. But, you know, they haven't been together. I mean, makes. Makes sense. I mean, it does seem somewhat showmancy. Like they just were caught up in the Wicked of it all. Is it long term? I don't know. Maybe.

[Oscar]

I guess maybe they're more so. I was gonna say I'm so used to them being low key because before Wicked, like, the press tour, I can only think of, like a handful of times they were together, pictured together. Right. Like they were back on stage at some. At a Broadway show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember his bam a lot. They were exiting together. Yeah.

[Oscar]

And then they go to see someone else's Broadway show too, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that sounds right. They were on separate ends, but other.

[Oscar]

I can't really remember them being together that much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they're not. I mean, they did the premieres together.

[Oscar]

They were at them together, but they didn't walk together.

[Trisha Paytas]

They didn't walk. Wasn't there like a video of her being like, come sit by me, like, grabbing his hand or something like that?

[Oscar]

Yes. So I guess the press tour would be.

[Trisha Paytas]

They went to an award show together, right?

[Oscar]

Probably, yes. Yeah, I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think people thought she looked annoyed in those two. They're like, oh, she looks annoyed, but I don't know. I. I got it also would be hard to be, like, in a relationship where it's just like your relationship is overshadowing. Like, you're in this huge movie and all people can talk about is like, Your relationship. Yeah, it probably would be annoying. So maybe they want to be more low key because they don't. Like, I wouldn't want to take the spotlight. It's like, I especially like her dream world, Glinda, like to have it be overshadowed by like.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Scandal or whatever.

[Oscar]

Once it came out though, like, people were on board. Yeah. Or at least like this focus went back to like, how good Ariana is genuinely. Because even like. Because everything before the movie came out, like, it was like, why are they crying so much? Like when Cynthia was upset about the memes about Elphaba and stuff, like, it was so focused, like kind of picking them apart. But then once the movie came out and they were so good in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

It became very like, we love these girls, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that is true. So maybe they're just trying to avoid like. Like a circus.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, how about let's just focus on me being this.

[Oscar]

Not my circus, not my flying monkeys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's that? Abs and Ray. Sounds like something she would say.

[Oscar]

It's like the. It's like me and it's a popular. Not my circus, not my monkeys. Like, I'm minding my business. That's not my thing. But I made it flying monkeys to make it wickedy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that was really good. I was like, wow, that's amazing.

[Oscar]

A great philosopher. Addison Rae.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's great. She said her favorite album is Circus by Britney Spears. I'm like, I love her. She was singing at the Grammy museum and with a blindfold and I was like, I want to be her. She should be nominated for Grammy. Think she should be nominated? Probably.

[Oscar]

I kind of think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wood gag. Like ultimate inspiration. Like inspo. I love her. Just a small town girl from Louisiana. Reminds me of someone else. Britney Spears? No. I wish. No. I'm well aware that my youngin companion is probably. Probably Jojo Siwa and Addison Rae as Britney Spears, but we'll take it.

[Oscar]

Well, speaking of Jojo.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no more Jojo.

[Moses]

This is my little one. Is it worth it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Shout out to the Suanators for like last time they were saying, she was saying it as like, he just wanted to enjoy this show and she was trying to help him because he's being too nice to say no because people did not like our takes on Tick tock. And I appreciate, I appreciate all the feedback. You know, I get it. If people are hounding Moses, I'll be like, first of all, watch me, please.

[Moses]

No, but that's what I'm saying. Like, he's a man. He can Take care of himself. He doesn't need. Maybe not the stage. And I can teach him a thing or two about saying no to pictures.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you're a little too blunt. That's why I'd rather say it for you know what I mean? Like, he's too nice, especially. Anyways, I've not heard any JoJo. I'm so off of JoJo talk. I love her, but also don't know what's happening.

[Oscar]

I'm not on JoJo Talk. I just read the articles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, there was an article.

[Oscar]

Yes. A fan was kicked out of her concert because they came wearing a hoodie of JoJo's face as an egg with a red face and a big bow.

[Trisha Paytas]

JoJo's face as an egg. So the egg is red and it has a big bow on it?

[Oscar]

Yeah. So it's like it's referencing a face. Few memes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's the hairline.

[Oscar]

Yeah, the hairline and then the red from when she sang Trader by Olivia Rodrigo and her face got.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, who come out? JoJo herself. She saw the shirt and said, get out. She's planning this. I swear. She's staging all this stuff. I. It has to be, because how can she see all this stuff? Like, how is it all happening? And poor fan. He probably was a fan thing. It's funny. I've seen myself look ridiculous on people's shirts. Could you imagine? I kick them out, like, how dare you? And they think they're just being like. They just think they're eating. They think they're being funny. That's crazy. I love it. I've never seen JoJo Egghead. Like, that's. Need to see it.

[Oscar]

Well, it was a meme that JoJo at one point also posted on her Instagram. Oh, this one is really messy, though. It's really messy. Okay, so JoJo at one point has posted this meme on her Instagram. Okay. So there's that element of it. And then she also had the Chris Hughes eyes and stuff, which is kind of like. It was very referential in that song before that, which is referential to all the memes and stuff. So I can get why someone would think JoJo would be down for that. Caveat. She has talked about how the hairline jokes have made her insecure, so I get that as well. Caveat the fan. The girl who went to the concert said before that, before she went there, even though she did not know her, her hoodie was going to trigger JoJo, she did at first get tickets to the JoJo concert as a joke. And there is a screenshot where of like a tick tock she made where she said oh my ears are going to be so mad at me for going to see JoJo. So she did get tickets originally as a joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what was her hoodie?

[Oscar]

Her hoodie was that meme of JoJo. Her head as an egg red with a big bow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so she hates this egg meme.

[Oscar]

JoJo hates this egg meme.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't embraces it sometimes.

[Oscar]

Yes. And I don't think the. Even though the per. The girl went as a joke originally she said she ended up really liking the concert and was. And I think she had. She said she had like an anxiety attack after because obviously yeah, you can play her whole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who the fans?

[Oscar]

The girl. Yeah. So the tik tok went viral of the moment and then the girl apologized on TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

So me and my friend, we didn't, we didn't have any merch. So we were like, oh, what are we gonna wear? And we were like, oh, let's just print out a picture and like stick it on our clothes and it will be funny. And like JoJo has a good sense of humor so she'll laugh as well. So we just googled funny Jojo Siwa picture and then screenshotted the first thing that came up. We didn't look what it was was strong or anything like that. And then we got in and we were there for like 45 minutes. And JoJo was like, what's everyone wearing? And we were like, oh, this is our opportunity to make her laugh. So we like held up what it was and she was like, can you hand it over? So we did and we were like, oh my goodness, she's gonna like laugh and find it really funny. She didn't find it funny. She kicked us out. And then people started posting videos about it and saying we threw it at her. When we didn't throw it, we handed it over for security. Where was the part where she said that she went as a joke different?

[Oscar]

It was a different. It was a tick tock before the concert. She said that she got the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because my initial reaction is like, you're such a like a loser. Going to like laugh at somebody that's like so mean and what you're spending your money to be like an like I hate that. That's like why I have like anxiety over people. They always think like what if someone's taking a picture of a joke? So I'm. My first thought is like, yeah, you're an for going To a show that you're gonna. You're doing it as, like, a joke. Okay. Now, on the flip side, I get also getting, like, anxiety or getting, like, you know, like, triggered by Jojo, like, what she said, like, embarrassing her. I do think she probably could have, like, call, like, a security guard to do it. I mean, like, Jojo being like, get out of here. I like. I kind of. I feel sad, like, watching, like, she.

[Moses]

Did call security and they escorted her out. It was a whole scene.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I guess good for JoJo for standing up for herself. I feel bad for her. I know what she's like, like, saying. But if there was that video of her being like. It came as a joke, then I don't really feel bad. Like, don't go to a concert because you, like, are gonna laugh at somebody. I don't know it. To me, it also was like, we just found the first picture. I. I get it. I get it. I just think, like, JoJo has a right, I guess, to be.

[Moses]

Well, she obviously has always has the right to kick out whoever she wants to. But the way this wasn't that serious, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I agree.

[Moses]

That's why you could. I mean, you're on stage, you choose. You know how it is. You're on stage, you see a million people, and you choose the people that you like to talk to or point out their outfits and things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So that was someone choice to. She asked them to bring it to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Then they brought it to her, and she was. Then she got upset and then she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, maybe not. She had to point it out so much. Like, she could have just literally went off stage and been like.

[Moses]

And then on the other hand, it's also a smaller venue. It seems very small.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So it's in her face more like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but, like, I think only two people got, like, removed from my show. And I was like, they were, like, drunk or something, but I didn't see it, obviously. Like, there's. There's people who can just go ask them to leave or something. You know, I think. I think they throw up a bunch of times or whatever. But, yeah, I think, like, calling someone out probably could give them some Somewhat of a embarrassment in front of everybody. It gives very, like, teacher calling you out. I mean, let's. Okay. I guess we just don't wear the egghead shirts to Jojo's concerts.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So wait, what happened after someone else did it again?

[Oscar]

No, that was her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, this is one. It only happened once.

[Oscar]

Yes, yes, yes. But, yeah, before I saw the other Screenshot of, like, so when she got the tickets, or when the. That girl said she was gonna get the tickets, someone commented, have fun when you go. And she replied, it'll be so painful, but thank you. And then she got asked why so painful. Said, my eardrums will hate me because she sounds so horrendous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Hate it.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, hate it.

[Oscar]

So I saw that first and then this after. So my first thought was like, okay, let Jojo, let's stop. Let's stop stopping the show, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right?

[Oscar]

Yeah. But then, yeah, the intent being to, like, do it as a joke. And I do. I even. Okay. Despite that screenshot, though, I will say I still don't think it was, like, meant to be harassment with that hoodie with, like, the meme. Because when you do Google JoJo Sibo funny like that, that photo is the first one that comes up. And JoJo had posted it to Instagram and she also did, like, a green screen, like, laughing at it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if she's like, I'm going as a joke. I don't think she's wearing it to be like, look at me as a fan.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I do agree. I don't think. But I don't think her intent was to trigger JoJo, is what I'm saying. Like, I don't think she. I don't think because Jojo. It's not like, Jojo. Jojo has seen it and she has, like, it would be like, as if someone came with, like, a crying T shirt or whatever, you know, to one of your shows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sure. For sure. But if I saw their tweet. Tweet, that's like, it's gonna be horrendous. Like, that triggered me. Like, that alone is triggering. Like, what do you mean? You're coming to my show to laugh at me and, like, my voice is gonna be.

[Oscar]

I think that's. I'm just saying, I don't think it's like an added.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, like you said earlier, intention, nuance, if you will. I think it's like, if someone, like, loves me and, like, they're look at Crying on the kitchen floor era. And it's like, yes, but if someone's being nasty to me on, like, whatever. Like, we're gonna go as a joke and then, like, yeah, bring a moment that, like, can be traumatized. Like the chicken nugget one. That's a big one. But then if you're. If you're nasty.

[Oscar]

Yeah. If your intent is if you're a hater.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if you're like an icon. I love you. I'm supporting you. Like, she also sounds like a fan. Like, why the hell are you buying tickets to someone you don't like? Like, that's. I just think that's such loser behavior. I really, really do. Yeah. I lack sympathy on this one. I think I know what you mean. Like, it is like a meme. And JoJo posted it. But again, maybe JoJo could sense she's an empath. She sensed that she was there as a joke. Because that is crazy, honestly.

[Oscar]

Maybe you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, the intention.

[Oscar]

Tension wasn't. Yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

But either way is the. Create the person on stage. The last thing you want to do is give more attention to the person that is doing that, you know? I mean, because otherwise we would not know who this girl is. Would not know all their tweets and her. All her intentions, and she would just disappear, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So it's just not wise to give so much attention to those things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Jojo, I mean, she's young, she's sensitive. I would have been that way too, probably at that age. Like, just.

[Moses]

Just word of advice.

[Trisha Paytas]

I still think, like, lame behavior to go, like, laugh at somebody.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I do think in general, she should stop stopping the show, but that's why I'm like, almost.

[Trisha Paytas]

It almost feels like I don't really think that is the case with this. Obviously, that girl tweet or whatever. It does almost feel like, yeah, like, very Andy Kaufman. Very, like, you know, they would stage stuff like Andy Kaufman's, like, wife would be, like, heckling him. You know, when he'd be wrestling and she was, I'll fight you. Like, he wanted a woman to fight, and then she'd get up and that'd be like, their bitch. She just, like, follow him around and be, like, the woman in the audience to fight him. So it sounds like maybe she has, like, planned haters. Maybe not this one. Maybe. Maybe they planned it from the tweets. Who knows? In that case, a very excellent troll.

[Oscar]

And I do also get, like, wanting to set, like, a boundary. Doja Cat talked about something similar. She talked about the infamous viral, like, hugging, musty T shirt situation. And she said, like, when she lashed out at the tiktoker after that video went viral, she was like, no, I meant what I said, but I shouldn't have. Like, instead of just, like, setting that boundary and, like, closing the door, I, like, kicked down the door, broke it off, broke off the hinges, and it became just a bigger thing. And she's like, the way I reacted, she's like, I. I still stand by what I said, but the way I reacted in the way I said it, I don't agree with and shouldn't have done so. Yeah, I think so. It is the balance, like, setting the boundary, but also doing it in a way that, like, doesn't cause more ruckus.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, that's the only thing that JoJo lacks, in my opinion. I love JoJo, but I do think the lack of hindsight and accountability is, like, big. Like, Joja Cat. That just happened this year and she could already, like, look back hindsight and be like, the way I think that's like, where I People miss a little bit with JoJo is there's no really, like, not even apology. Just sort of like, oh, could have been handled different in so many ways. That stuff she's, like, done. But in the words of JoJo Siwa, Karma's a because that girl put out to. I'm gonna laugh at her. And then, well, guess what? She got laughed at. That's what happens. You put out negative energy. Oh, I'm going as a joke. It's horrendous. And then now she's like, I had an anxiety I wouldn't wish on someone. But I'm just saying, you put out that bad energy being like, I'm going to laugh at somebody. I mean, it did kind of come back around, didn't it? It was kind of like, damn, it got you. And it caused you stress because why you were gonna go, like, be mean to, like, make fun of somebody. Yeah, just be nice. Put out good energy. You guys, if you really don't like someone, you have to go to their show. Like. Like, that is like a weird, not, like, fear, but it is. Something in the back of mine is like, oh, is someone coming to, like, laugh at you? But then you're like, well, they want to pay all this money to laugh at me. Apparently somebody did. I think she probably was a secret fan. She might just want to. She probably was just, like, saying, it's.

[Oscar]

Kind of like, yeah, mask.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so embarrassing, JoJo. But, like, I'm going to spend $200, you know, like, yeah, all right, well, sorry. She had anxiety, but also maybe learned a little lesson to be like, let's not be mean. And JoJo, I applaud her for standing up for herself. You know, she feels some type of way. And like you said, people will know. It's very Chapel Roan where she was like, hey, I don't like this behavior. I Don't like people just, like, coming up to me like they know me or something like that. You know, it's like, maybe it's like a blunt way to deliver it, but you kind of get the message. You're kind of like, all right, kind of just maybe leave her alone if we see her on a plane or something. Because some people don't know. Like, you know, I don't know. It's very. Like I said with me, I was like, I like you when people come to me. But it's like, yeah, my kids. If we're, like, in a parking lot or something, trying to cross the street, then, like, no, but I wouldn't mind, like, being on a plane and, like, like saying hi to someone. But some people don't like that. Some people, yeah. Some people don't like that at all. And you wouldn't know unless you tell them. Wait, we were saying something earlier. Oh, we were talking about Joe Keery being the Juno boy. Who is the one that has, like, the female version of that. Hillary Duff was just over the weekend.

[Oscar]

Oh, role model with the Sally. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that the same thing? But she gets to come on stage. The Sally girl. What does that entail? It's just like his song. He has a song?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know anything about this? Okay.

[Oscar]

You gotta know a little bit. Yeah. Well, you're the one talking. You were dming role model, right? You're his friend.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Why was I dming? He did.

[Oscar]

He signed his set list for one of his shows as Trisha Paytas. And then you DM'd him, and you said he wanted to perform at my Greek show.

[Trisha Paytas]

No response, no reply. You're right. I forgot about that. So he knows who I am. He signed my name. Oh, okay. That's why I was asking. Cause I was like, oh, you should go be the Sally girl.

[Oscar]

Oh, you should be the Sally girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, what the hell's the Sally? And I saw Hillary Dowden. I was like, I want to be the Sally girl also, too. Is that campaign coming back? She just did that. Oh, I think it was role model.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she spoofed that. That's okay. When you say that's okay, do you really mean what you say? She spoofed? Oh, did a TikTok of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. It needs to come back.

[Oscar]

Yeah. More than ever. We need that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Yeah. Hillary Duff, icon. She's getting her record deal. She's the Sally girl. And she's back the psa. Yeah. I love it. Where was this big concert over the Weekend, everyone was at Ace.

[Oscar]

Was it Austin City Limits? I think for him too.

[Trisha Paytas]

ACL.

[Oscar]

Well, it attracts450,000 people over two weekends each year, so I guess half of that each weekend. So 225 each weekend.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's the big headliner?

[Oscar]

Hosier.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hosier. Hosier isn't a Hosier.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never heard Hozier. I mean, I don't know.

[Oscar]

You could be. You're probably right. I don't know how to pronounce. Pronounce his name.

[Trisha Paytas]

I only know Hozier from Brittany Broski. I know. There was like a whole thing back and forth with her and Hozier.

[Oscar]

Did they date something? What? They dated?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, I know.

[Moses]

Or she had a crush on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe she had a crush and the fans are like. I don't know. Maybe they did because she met him. She, like, interviewed him. So people thought they were gonna like that they were dating. They speculated and then he had a girlfriend and they got mad. I don't know. I don't want to put Brittany Broski in the middle of it, but I just. Maybe her fans.

[Moses]

I think she put herself. I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's. But fact check that. I think it was her fans that were just like, you know, you were supposed to be dating Britney or something. I don't know. Because they maybe were flirty or something. I'm not sure. Anyways, that's how I know him. So she put him on the map for me. He does that one. Is he the Take Me to Church?

[Oscar]

That's only what I know. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

L, Capaldi, all of them. Why does everyone sing like that now? I don't know. That's so weird. Eternity.

[Oscar]

Luke Calms, Caged Elephant, Empire, the Sun was Friday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what?

[Oscar]

Saturday was Sabrina Carpenter, the Strokes, Dochi and djo. And Sunday was the Killers, John Summit, Feed T Paid, T Pain, and mkg.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that's crazy. Okay, no, dj, he was.

[Oscar]

He was headliner on Saturday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Djo. Did you say that? Holy. Oh, was he getting arrested at the ACL set?

[Oscar]

Yes, he was arrested at Sabrina. Sabrina Carpenter was the final of the headliners.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why he was there.

[Oscar]

But DJO is on the top billing for Saturday. He's like the big. Anyone? Coachella, they got the big names. He's the big name on Saturday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Apologies to the DJO fans out there. I told you I wanted them to come for me. Wow. He seems nice. He seems like a nice boy. He seems cute, seems successful. So, yeah, he doesn't need to come up. He's already all the way up. Good for him. Good for everyone.

[Oscar]

Maybe he'll perform next year.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. I'm honored always. I think I'm reserving just only pride, only events.

[Oscar]

But you wouldn't do Coachella if they. If Coachella asked you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Coachella?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it gay? I don't think so. Are they. Are they queer friendly?

[Oscar]

I mean, Trixie Mattel did Coachella, if that sways you one way or the other.

[Trisha Paytas]

But are they just using her amazing audience? I mean, that's fine. That's what people do, I guess. Yeah. I need to. I'm. Well, I don't want to give away. I have a new song and it mentions. It mentions mud tile, but it has it. But it's not. It's not a Trixie reference. It's a Mattel reference, but I feel like she should be in it. I wonder if she knows Metallic. She has any brand deals with them, like the brand.

[Oscar]

I think they wanted to stop her from using Mattel at first. I think if I'm remembering correctly, bring.

[Trisha Paytas]

Up the store subject. Oh, now they're like, we're embracing it.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was worried about that with my name, my daughter, Malibu Barbie. Like, can they sue us?

[Oscar]

No, because Barbie is a common name and Malibu is trademarked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right. And no relation to the Malibu Barbie doll that came out in 1973. And Malibu. Yeah, we have a Malibu connection because that's where we had our first. First dates. So that's why we named him. Don't even sue us.

[Oscar]

No relations.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar]

Barbara Mellicent Roberts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that part. Trixie. What were talking about with Trixie? Oh, Coachella. Yes, Coachella. And maybe I'll be at the Abbey this Thursday. I got invited. Oh, maybe. We'll see. Maybe I'll perform. Or maybe I'll just show up. I don't know. It's not clear if I'm performing or if I'm.

[Oscar]

What's the lore?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, you talk about on Wednesday's episode.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Huh. There's lore to it. Yeah. Talk about Wednesdays. I'll see if I can. I don't know if I can, but maybe I'll pop up. Or maybe not. I shouldn't say that because I don't know if I am just me inviting myself. I wasn't, but I just don't know if that was just to, like, show up or, like, show up with my dancers. 5, 6, 7, 8. Was that our big one?

[Oscar]

Well, the final one. I mean, they're all really quick. You can pick dealer's choice. I don't know if that's the right terminology. Das Mendoza. Lila give. Hashtag I survived Lila Gibney or what's it, Landon. No, McBroom. Austin McBroom reaction to Catherine.

[Trisha Paytas]

These were all good ones. Why did we save this for the end? I had a lot of to say, actually. I much to say on any of them. Only say some for Patreon, I guess.

[Oscar]

Yeah, the rest will be for Patreon.

[Trisha Paytas]

O. I don't know. Moses was kind of on Lila talk this week.

[Oscar]

Oh, then let's do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was very much like, did you see the latest lla give me? I was like, what's happening?

[Oscar]

They were just telling me in my chat about this yesterday. So I. Moses, I think you should lead because I barely know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was just seeing the stories. My sister, too, was like, oh, my God, Lila Gibney is getting exposed by so many people on TikTok. And like, then I started seeing it too. I started seeing it as well. I told the line with this because, like, obviously I, like, known Lila and obviously, like, in the state of our, like, climate right now, I really don't want to have, like, any more. Like, I don't love trans hate. You know what I mean? I mean, I, I, I think it can be, like, dangerous, whatever. So I didn't want to get, like, too in the weeds with it. I'm kind of very on the outside of it too, where there's general people feel like they've been scammed by her. I think, you know, a lot of people know Lila from Tana's friend group. Yeah, Tana says they're cool. I literally never talked to her about Lila. I have no idea. But like, on cancel and stuff, she's like, they've had falling out, but then they went on her podcast, so I think they were cool.

[Oscar]

But it didn't. It didn't air, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did it not?

[Oscar]

I think that episode aired.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Oscar]

Yeah, because the final episode, they had a. A toast to the unaired episodes. I think it was that Lila, the Alex Warren, the Harry Daniels.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a crazy. Like, Alex Warren is crazy. And as Warren, like, I just looked through the cracks. I'm like, alex Warren is, like, gonna win a Grammy this year. What do you mean it slipped through the cracks? That is like, Eric, what put it in this last episode? Make it five hours. Like, that was crazy to me. Instead of like, we'll take a you and Harry Dowsey's so Big for them. I was like, that's. I'm not for them. But I'm just saying, Harry Daniels. Poor justice for Harry Daniels. We love him. He sent Aquaman a little gift in the mail. We love you here. Okay. That's a crazy trio to just be, like, never aired. That's wild. So, yeah. And then I think. I think Brooke and Tana, though, went on Lila's. Was that never aired?

[Oscar]

Yes, I remember that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So that. And then, obviously, Lila again came to, like, everyone's attention with Alex. Alex Warren and Cobra's wedding, where she was frolicking in Lila's or in Cover's veil, which is wild. So, you know. And then Cole Kerrigan leading the. The force this week again with his story. A lot of people are saying they're coming out with the Lila gimme stories now because, like, yeah, like, that's. That's a pretty crazy hashtag, first of all. And I'm never gonna be one. Like, well, Lila was nice to me. Lila didn't steal from me, you know, But I don't have a bad Lila story. And I. And I know there are people close to me that do have a bad Lila story, but again, I don't want to, like, jump on this because it's just like. And it shouldn't be, like, okay, well, treat everyone the same just because she's, you know, you know, a trans girl. But it's just like, I just don't love, like.

[Oscar]

No, I agree.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? So. But I get it. Like, call out people if they're, like, you know, if they're stealing. I guess that's the gist of it, right? She's a. She's alleged thief. She steals from people. Maybe let's not invite her to our houses then. I don't know. I guess I would. Cool. Yeah. Oh, no. Some people do have a klepto problem. So you know what I mean? Some people have actual problems. Like, they don't even mean to. They have the money to whatever. Well, and then Cole Carragan, I guess, was at her house. So I don't know how we got scammed there. You were staying at the house? I don't know. It was. Guess he got scammed out of paparazzi photos. Was his scam. She got free ones. Oh, no. She paid. He didn't. Allegedly.

[Oscar]

He said. Should I read the whole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, unless Moses, you want to take a crack at it. Go ahead.

[Oscar]

I'll just read his caption then, Moses, you give the commentary because I trust you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are very great. This is why you're like. When you're not here, it's like, how do we explain the story? So you're very good.

[Oscar]

Well, you're better. But deciding if I want to tell a story. Time on how the most psychotic wannabe influencer. Lila Kim. Sorry. Treated me when I went to stay with her for a concert. Like when she accused. Accused me of stealing her literal crack because she lost it, knowing I'm in recovery and sober. Or finding my stolen Dior shoes, Fendi sunglasses, and more in her closet that I quote, unquote, lost when I lived in la and when she made me sit alone at dinner for an hour while she had a photographer come take fake paparazzi photos of her for free and said I couldn't get in one single pic because I had to pay him and did the same thing the night of the concert. Or when she cussed me out and threatened to kick. Kick me out of her apartment for, quote, unquote, annoying her, having no consideration that I haven't traveled in five years since I got sober just to see her. And a lot more. I think that was the first one that opened the floodgates.

[Trisha Paytas]

Reading it back is wild. Yeah. It's also giving very. Not relatable. It's very. Like, I couldn't get in one of those fake paparazzi pictures. You stole my Dior. Like, like, all sad, of course. Scammed or ripped off. But, like, it is giving, like, influencer problems. Right? No.

[Moses]

Yeah. Also, at what point do you just leave?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Right. Why are we.

[Moses]

Like, the story was of this few days and it was endless drama and endless mistreating. Like, she mistreated him badly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Get up and leave. Like there's something. So that. That's where I'm like, okay, at what point, like, you can't stay with somebody that mistreats you and then complain about it endlessly because you stayed. Like, you can't leave. The story should have been one story. She did this and then I left.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You know what I mean? Like, it. But it just keeps going and going and going. And the story is like, everywhere we went, she made me pay, she took this, she did that. She had me or, you know, uber black and then myself. Like, it's just leave. Just leave. Yeah, it's better. Just get a cheap motel, be by yourself. And. And it just sounds like a lot. And then all of these people, all their stories are like. Like, she did them really horrible things, but they kept staying with her and staying around her and Keeping her around. So I'm just like. So at some point, it's just weird. It's a little bit like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But, like, maybe they're seeing it because I think, like, Tana has shared public stories like that very publicly. Like. Like, she was just, like, loyal. She's just like, okay, this is like a good friend of mine. I'm gonna just keep her around even though. Okay. You steal a couple things. Allegedly. You know what I mean? Like, okay. But she's a good person. She's like, a nice person. She's a funny person. We like to be around her, like, Right.

[Moses]

So. Well, I'm saying, like, they're enabling. Like, either you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You know, something about it doesn't sit right sometimes. A lot of times we hear stories from people and be like, both of them are not okay. Both of them are problematic. Both of them. You know what I mean? But they're just so, like. I don't know. A lot of it doesn't sit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know if it's, like, so problematic. Obviously, stealing is like. I'm more worried about the crack.

[Moses]

Like, that's insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Allegedly.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because I don't know.

[Oscar]

We don't know.

[Moses]

We don't know. Maybe so something. Anyway, it's not cracking with something else.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy. As Whitney Houston said, crack is whack.

[Moses]

But I don't know. I feel. I feel bad for all parties involved. I feel bad for all parties involved.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do.

[Moses]

But I also feel like all of them are bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Bad is so harsh. So is the. I survived lilac, and that's pretty harsh. Like, that literally sounds like Ed Gaines or, like, Dahmer. You know what I mean? Like, oh, I survived Dahmer. That's what you would say. The final person that, like, got out of his car or whatever, or was that the one. Was that guy Efron. Who's that one? Whatever one he played. Right. Okay. That's more that. Lila Gibney. Stealing your Dior or not letting you in a paparazzi pic is not really, like, survival sad. I get you. And I feel gargan. I feel like he has been through, like, he's always in the midst of, like, a drama. And not to say he's drama, but he's definitely, like, attracting some sort of drama. I think he's trying to, like, take a step back and work on himself. Obviously, he said himself he had, like, issues that he's, like, sober from now, so I like him. But I do think, yeah, like, we're always in this, like, drama of it all. And the hashtag was to sound a lot more severe than it is, but it's awful. And like, you said, you should just maybe not.

[Moses]

It sounds more like a friend group that decided, okay, we're gonna gang up with somebody.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was so many that I saw these TikToks this week ever had a Lila Gaming story. And to be honest, they all were just very similar. Stealing the money, like, didn't pay, like, all that kind of stuff. And it's like, damn. Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, she's maybe somewhere more serious. That's why I don't want to. Because some of the allegations were serious and much more serious. And that's why I'm like, okay, you either you do something about it or you don't. But just so that's what I'm saying, like, something about this, like, is not okay. Like, even, like, some things people witnessed. I'm like, okay, so you just. By witnessing and not doing anything about it, you're also part of the problem.

[Trisha Paytas]

So. But it's hard. You can't really, like, if the person who's, like, a victim or whatever, like, if they don't say anything, you can't really say anything. You can't just, like, go to police. And I saw this happen. Because if the video doesn't want to.

[Moses]

Do anything, won't keep hanging out with this person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, that's part. But they're young. I mean, we. I've definitely hung out with people that, like, we probably shouldn't keep hanging out with because you just think they're fun or whatever.

[Oscar]

Was Lila at the Tart?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, maybe.

[Oscar]

Brooks engagement party. I swear I saw her.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's, like, still around.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's probably hard, like. Like, if you see someone and you're friends with them. Right. And, like, you want to give them by then for the doubt. I think Lila herself has said a couple times, like, she's trying to work on herself. Like, she has done, like, semi apologies. So I don't know. It's hard. This one was hard. Like, I just. I kept seeing it, so I was like, oh, wow. But, like, yeah, I don't. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, like, also, if you do. I don't want to also look like I'm not being like, see, it's not serious. It is serious. We know someone very close to me who had, like, an incident with Lila. And yeah, it's like. It's just. It's hard, like, and I had to tell this person, like, gotta, like, let it go. But, like, maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you should say that. I don't know. But, like, ultimately, like, yeah, it's between the person who had something, because, again, she never does anything to me. But I, like, like, saw the. Like, I know what happened, but I can't say anything if, like, the person that it happened to doesn't want to say anything. You know what I mean? You know her?

[Oscar]

Do you know her, Lila G. Yeah, Only from the flight. Smoking the weed in the. In the bathroom. From lighting a fire in Maui where she shouldn't have been lighting a fire. So the triple homicide are the three things I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. I think needs a little reflection. Needs a little apology to her, probably just to people she's, like, hurt. Also, like I said, I'm not, like, totally, like, if she. If there's any sort of crack involved in this world, like, that obviously is a big, big issue.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And probably cloud something. But like you said, like, if there are people that, like, were victimized, I don't even know, like, the more serious allegations. I did not hear those. But, I mean, yeah, obviously they should say something if they feel like they can. I don't know. It's a tough one. Gosh, we're having tough topics today. This should be called tough topics, not hot topics. It's so hard. I love it when we just have a little key. And today I'm just like, wow, we.

[Oscar]

Are finding the nuance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Finding the nuance and all. Yeah, nuance is good, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, Lila, give me. Is there's nuance when it comes to talking about her. You know, it's not all good. All bad.

[Moses]

Just a little bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses]

Cole Kerrigan, shades of bed.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope he's always in the midst of all this, too. Like, the Ace family drama. Like, you're there, and I know you know, congrats on your sobriety and just keep going forward. I don't know. I guess people. A lot of people were saying, like, all these stories are coming out now that canceled's over because they didn't want to get talked about on Cancel. I mean, granted, I don't think they would have, but.

[Oscar]

But now I need to talk about injustice.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I know. And these are all my people, so I'm really not trying to come for anyone, but I stand with people that are victimized. Obviously. Lila, there can always be a turnaround, you know, There can always be a turnaround. She's young. I'm Rooting.

[Oscar]

Maybe you can mentor her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I don't know if I'm in a position to do that quite yet.

[Moses]

Maybe in my 50s era, I can White punisher.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me or Lila.

[Moses]

You.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow. I would love to help. I'm not sure I'm qualified. We might need Dr. Drew to help me to assist. I should host. I should host, like, a mental rehab for influencers. That's a good idea. Like Dr. Drew did back in the day.

[Moses]

She can call into Net love Lane.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how I should host. I should host, like, a show for all these, like, borderlines out there. Because people come to me all the time with borderline personality disorder issues, and I was like, let me help. Let me help. This will be good. I'm not saying she has it, but I would Netflix Warner Brothers. If it's not interracial dating, it's gonna be mental illness rehab for influencers. I would love to be part sidemen. Get on it. You can produce it.

[Moses]

Anyone who can help me instead of Loveline. Borderline, call us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where are my borderlines at? That's a good one.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I pitched a show, I think, with Dr. Drew. Like that. I remember. We're gonna do like it was something.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like the morning dose, and we're gonna talk, like, take mental health. Thank you. Might still happen. I don't think he's doing his podcast anymore. Why wasn't he nominated on Golden Globes podcast? Why wasn't he a shortlister? He's mainstream. He should have been on there. He seems to be okay anyways. Well, Golden Globes, we may not have gotten your short list of nominations, but it's never too late. Whoever runs the Golden Globes, do something about it. Get our name in there. We'd love you. Also giving Benny drama vibes right now.

[Oscar]

That is the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. He really is so cute. Yeah, I love when we DM each other. I always feel very cool. I love him.

[Oscar]

Maybe now that you're on Euphoria, you'll get on overcompensating.

[Trisha Paytas]

They could have horned me. I'm kidding. I'm totally kidding. Me having one role on Euphoria, like unstoppable. I really thought I was unstoppable because I was doing so many calls after that. And what are they called?

[Oscar]

Self tapes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Maybe one day I can show my Euphoria self tape. I don't know if I can. I gotta find out the logistics. Maybe once an eras or something like that. But. But, yeah, I think I really. I really nailed it. But we love you guys. And you know what? Everything is nuanced in life, so just take it as that. Take it. Take it as it is. I love you guys. I love you, Moses. I love you, Oscar. Everything is good. Love the heart. Gen Z. Gen Z. All of it. Okay. Millennial cringe over there.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

Gen X. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll see you guys in the next one.

[Oscar]

And we got a lot of juicy ones. Yeah. Because there's a lot left over. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, just like these mozzarella sticks. Left over juicy steak nuggets. We're gonna continue those on Patreon. We love you guys. See you there.