Podcast Summary: Just Trish – October 23, 2025
Guest: Lukas Gage
Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-host: (Mentioned: Oscar Gracey)
Episode Theme:
A candid and comedic conversation with actor and writer Lukas Gage on fame, attention-seeking, struggles with mental health, relationships, and Hollywood’s wild ride. Both host and guest share their unfiltered takes on internet fame, personal growth, borderline personality disorder, and the chaos—and unexpected peace—of living out loud.
Episode Overview
Trisha welcomes actor and newly-minted memoirist Lukas Gage for a rich, hilarious, and deeply open interview. They discuss Lukas’s rise in Hollywood, personal battles with mental health, relationships with family and romantic partners, internet virality, and finding meaning and stability amidst the chaos. The two connect over shared experiences in fame, "delulu" manifesting, borderline personality disorder, and the perpetual tension between craving attention and wanting privacy.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Lukas and Trisha’s Mutual Admiration (02:07–03:07)
- Trisha gushes over Lukas as her "favorite person of all time" and recounts DMing him for years.
- Lukas reveals he watched Trisha on YouTube as a teen, becoming a mukbang superfan.
Quote:
- "When you slid into my DMs, I actively tried not to freak out and… I've been following you since my teens." — Lukas Gage (02:20)
2. Mukbangs, Body Image, and Postmates Roulette (03:07–04:27)
- Trisha and Lukas discuss "Postmates Roulette"—random food delivery as a social/mukbang game.
- Lukas says he'll eat anything ("Wendy’s chili and a Frosty"), and Trisha jokingly laments her mukbang self-consciousness.
- Both share fitness routines—Pilates and Solidcore, and Trisha marvels at Lukas’ physique.
3. Path to Hollywood: Dreaming Big & Being "Delulu" (04:50–06:31)
- Trisha notes Lukas’ rapid career moves; Lukas credits "delulu is a solulu" (delusion is a solution) as his mantra.
- Lukas discusses moving to LA with no plan, living out of a Honda Fit, and hustling hard.
- He still drives the same car, now "pimped out," and jokes about his mom’s obsession with it.
Quote:
- "To quote you, just Delulu is a Salulu, you know?... I think a little bit of crazy is good." — Lukas Gage (05:18)
4. Family, Childhood, and Craving Attention (07:14–08:29)
- Lukas’s mom is his number one fan, wearing merch from his cameo roles.
- Discussion about birth order (Lukas is the baby) and how many actors are youngest siblings.
Quote:
- "I think that there's something about wanting attention and not getting enough attention or getting too much attention as the baby..." — Lukas (08:18)
5. Fame, Privacy, and The Memoir "I Wrote This For Attention" (08:29–09:39)
- Trisha grills Lukas on writing a memoir despite his private nature.
- Contrasts Trisha’s era of "trolling for attention" with Lukas’s subtler mischief (“I troll a little bit”).
- Discusses lying in interviews as a form of trolling and attention-seeking.
6. Struggles with Mental Health: Borderline Personality Disorder and DBT Therapy (14:15–16:56)
- Both open up about being diagnosed with borderline personality disorder after years of misdiagnosis.
- Trisha shares positive experiences with DBT group therapy; Lukas found the skills groups “felt like school” but values learning to self-soothe.
- Discuss the paradox of craving and fearing attention, and the dangers of reading online hate.
Quote:
- "You want all this attention, you're like, begging for it. And then like, once you get it, like, don't look at me." — Trisha (11:05)
- "I think a little bit of crazy is good." — Lukas (05:18)
7. High-Speed Relationship, Quickie Marriage, and Lessons Learned (17:51–18:19)
- Lukas describes his whirlwind marriage as part of a manic, untreated BPD period.
- Both hosts agree there’s something "iconic" about quick Hollywood weddings, like Pamela Anderson’s.
- They bond over "falling in love too easily" and intense relationships.
8. Online Fame, Virality, and the Audition Apartment Incident (53:46–57:38)
- Lukas recounts his viral audition tape where a director unknowingly comments on his apartment.
- He described posting the footage after encouragement from peers (Jennifer Coolidge and Molly Shannon).
- Initial thrill turned to panic when it went viral; agents were nervous, opportunities (Kelly Clarkson Show, Drew Barrymore) poured in.
Quote:
- "I love attention. And then when I get it, it's too much and I hate it. And I'm like, get me away. What did I do?" — Lukas (57:38)
9. Navigating Rejection, Familial Abandonment, and Healing (35:03–41:16)
- Trauma of being bullied as a child, moving schools, and being misunderstood.
- Complicated relationship with his father—abandonment, dad starting new family without telling him, but now, slowly reconnecting and developing forgiveness.
Quote:
- "I humanized my dad during this… I could see him as a kid… our parents are just, like, wounded kids doing the best." — Lukas (39:18)
10. The Constant Quest for Validation & Evolving Relationship With Attention (65:07–66:05)
- Lukas says the thirst for attention will never fully go away, but now he seeks it in healthier ways (“the right kind of love, the right kind of attention”).
- Trisha and Lukas find solace knowing their childhood "please notice me" hunger remains, but life can be gentler.
Quote:
- "That little boy who wanted attention… is still very much in me and still shaking for his parents to be like, 'good job, kid.'" — Lukas (66:05)
11. Hollywood Realities: Jump-Scaring, Friendships, and Community (60:22–62:44)
- Lukas describes being part of the young Hollywood "it crowd," but notes a sense of isolation: “Having fun isn’t fun anymore,” citing increased performativity and the impact of social media and the pandemic.
- Both miss organic, spontaneous good times.
12. Career, Dreams, and What’s Next for Lukas Gage (67:15–68:38)
- Recent and upcoming projects: Netflix films, writing (sold movies), continued acting.
- Lukas feels more stable and content than ever; attention is now secondary to creative fulfillment and wellbeing.
Quote:
- "I want to keep getting better at [acting, writing, producing]… I want to just continue to get better." — Lukas (68:16)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "Delulu is the salulu." — Lukas Gage (05:18)
- "I wrote this for attention." — Lukas, referencing his memoir (08:29)
- "I think I was doing very attention-seeking behavior… not medicated properly." — Lukas (09:14)
- "We love desperation." — Trisha (44:02)
- "You and like, Cardi B… just let you guys do whatever the f* you want." — Lukas (76:36)
- "That little boy who wanted attention… is still very much in me." — Lukas (66:05)
- "Having fun isn’t fun anymore." — Lukas (62:01)
- “I’m the baby.” — Lukas on family and attention, (07:42)
- "We love Delulu." — Trisha (44:05)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [02:07] – Meeting and mutual admiration, early YouTube days
- [03:34] – Mukbangs, food rituals, body image
- [05:18] – Delulu manifesting, moving to LA
- [08:29] – Writing for attention, privacy vs. memoir
- [14:15] – Mental health, BPD, DBT therapy
- [17:51] – Manic marriage era
- [35:03] – Spirituality, mediumship help with loss
- [39:18] – Relationship with father, forgiveness
- [53:46] – Viral audition/“apartment” tape story
- [60:22] – Hollywood circle, struggles with friendship
- [65:07] – Seeking attention, growing up, self-acceptance
- [67:15] – Writing, upcoming projects, feeling stable
- [76:24] – Movie dream: Trisha, Lukas, Cardi B
- [77:18] – Book promotion, audiobook, memoir
Tone & Language
- Humorously raw; honest and self-deprecating with both Trisha and Lukas sharing personal flaws, embarrassing stories, and deep insecurities.
- Vibe shifts comfortably from light banter to intimate disclosures on trauma and healing.
- The rapport is energetic, supportive, and spontaneous—inviting listeners into a genuine kiki between two internet icons.
For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In:
This episode delivers an unpredictable mix of Hollywood gossip, mental health insight, confessional storytelling, and charming weirdness. Trisha and Lukas’s chemistry makes for an entertaining journey deep into the realities behind internet fame, the cost (and allure) of attention, and the power in simply saying the truth—even when it’s messy.
Recommended for:
Fans of pop culture gossip, mental health honesty, and the unfiltered “main character” energy only Trisha Paytas and Lukas Gage can provide.
Lukas Gage’s memoir I Wrote This For Attention is out now, including audiobook (in his own voice).
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