Reacting to Joey Graceffa's FEUD With Tana Mongeau & Ryan Reynolds on SNL

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just Trish – Reacting to Joey Graceffa's FEUD With Tana Mongeau & Ryan Reynolds on SNL (Release Date: February 19, 2025)

Hosted by Trisha Paytas and Oscar Gracey

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1. Introduction

In this episode of "Just Trish," Trisha Paytas and her co-host, Oscar Gracey, delve into a myriad of topics ranging from Trisha's upcoming tour to dissecting the surprising similarities between Shakira's performances and Beyoncé's Renaissance Tour. The conversation is lively, candid, and sprinkled with Trisha's trademark humor and unfiltered opinions.

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2. Trisha's Upcoming Tour and Music

Trisha enthusiastically shares details about her forthcoming tour, discussing venues, setlists, and new music. She highlights her excitement about performing in Indianapolis and Toronto, mentioning special performances of her hits like "Freaky" and "Iconic."

Trisha Paytas [02:58]: "It's all the hits. Christmas, everyone's like, play Freaky. I was like, it's a Christmas show, everybody."

Trisha also introduces her new EP, Postpartum Pop Star, All My Tongue Sisters Today, blending themes about her personal life and her support for the LGBTQ+ community.

Trisha Paytas [04:25]: "They're gonna grow up in a gay world, you know what I mean?"

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3. Shakira vs. Beyoncé's Renaissance Tour Similarities

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to comparing Shakira's recent tour elements with Beyoncé's Renaissance Tour. Trisha and Oscar note the striking resemblance in stage outfits, thematic elements, and performance styles.

Oscar [14:00]: "Shakira has been accused of plagiarizing Beyoncé's Renaissance tour... She was like, yeah, I'm taking notes."

They discuss specific elements like silver outfits and the use of large inflatables, pondering whether it's mere inspiration or direct imitation.

Trisha Paytas [16:35]: "If you're gonna copy anyone, Beyoncé's or Taylor Swift was so huge."

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4. Review of 'The Circus' Video

Trisha and Oscar review their own project, "The Circus," a sleeper hit they developed. They reflect on the production process, sharing humorous anecdotes about filming awkward scenes and the challenges of content creation.

Oscar [06:31]: "I literally watched us reviewing it, like, three times because I just thought it was so funny."

Trisha admits to finding the filming process awkward but appreciates the humorous outcomes.

Trisha Paytas [07:09]: "We get lost in each other's eyes... it's very cringy."

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5. Challenges in the Music Video Industry: Copying and Originality

The hosts engage in a deep discussion about originality in the music video industry, lamenting how many artists end up replicating each other's concepts. They express frustration over similar themes across different artists' work and emphasize the importance of maintaining unique identities.

Trisha Paytas [16:35]: "They're just so big, both of them; then it might be a little like... Excuse me. What?"

Oscar suggests that while influence is natural, outright copying lacks creativity and can be detrimental to an artist's reputation.

Oscar [16:53]: "Tyra Banks always says, steal from the best and make it your own..."

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6. Discussion on Reality TV and Casting Influencers

Trisha and Oscar shift focus to reality TV, debating the trend of casting social media influencers in traditional media roles. They critique instances where casting seems driven by follower counts rather than talent, using examples like Cameron Dallas in "Mean Girls" and discussing the implications for the industry.

Trisha Paytas [53:57]: "CAA can get me anywhere except for the traitors. They give me all these opportunities. Except the traders."

They ponder the balance between leveraging influencers' reach and ensuring quality performances, expressing a desire for more talent-driven casting decisions.

Oscar [58:31]: "I kind of miss the days of having, like, an unknown, have a big, like, a Rachel Zegler with West Side Story..."

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7. Reflections on Personal Health and Diet

Trisha opens up about her personal struggles with weight and health, reflecting on her childhood diet dominated by fast food and her current efforts to maintain her health amidst a busy lifestyle.

Trisha Paytas [26:34]: "I'm in my skinny girl era now. Well, I'm in my postpartum era. That's right, man."

Oscar shares his own experiences with body mass index (BMI) and diet, fostering an open and supportive conversation about body image and health.

Oscar [95:07]: "He did say, I have to do the stair master more because my body mass index says my fat is held in my legs."

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8. Reaction to Recent SNL 50 Episode: Joey Graceffa, Tana Mongeau, Ryan Reynolds Feud

The climax of the episode centers on reacting to Joey Graceffa's feud with Tana Mongeau and Ryan Reynolds on "Saturday Night Live" (SNL). Trisha, Oscar, and Moses dissect the interactions, discussing allegations of sexual harassment, the portrayal of toxic behavior, and the broader implications for influencer relationships.

Tana Mongeau [110:10]: "And I would have never said anything. I would have never, you know what I mean?"

Trisha expresses concern over how the situation was handled on SNL, emphasizing the importance of taking harassment seriously rather than dismissing it as mere complaining.

Trisha Paytas [111:34]: "I think people are scared because they're scared of the backlash."

Oscar defends the significance of Tana's platform in shedding light on serious issues, critiquing how figures like Joey attempt to downplay the severity for publicity.

Oscar [117:42]: "I think she kind of has shifted the narrative a little bit now... it works like the influencer works."

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9. Conclusion

Trisha wraps up the episode by reiterating her excitement for her upcoming tour and reflecting on the various topics discussed. She emphasizes the importance of honest conversations and maintaining authenticity in the ever-evolving landscape of social media and entertainment.

Trisha Paytas [123:57]: "What works for women, too. It probably works more for women because women are just, like, obsessed with food."

She signs off by encouraging listeners to engage with their Patreon for extended content and teasing future episodes featuring guests like Gabrielle, Barbie, and Carolyn.

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Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Paytas [02:58]: "It's all the hits. Christmas, everyone's like, play Freaky. I was like, it's a Christmas show, everybody."

• Oscar [14:00]: "Shakira has been accused of plagiarizing Beyoncé's Renaissance tour... She was like, yeah, I'm taking notes."

• Trisha Paytas [26:34]: "I'm in my skinny girl era now. Well, I'm in my postpartum era. That's right, man."

• Tana Mongeau [110:10]: "And I would have never said anything. I would have never, you know what I mean?"

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This episode of "Just Trish" offers a blend of personal anecdotes, critical analysis of current pop culture phenomena, and thoughtful discussions on the challenges faced by influencers in maintaining authenticity amidst industry pressures. Trisha's unfiltered approach ensures that listeners are both entertained and engaged, providing a comprehensive look into the dynamics of modern entertainment.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't reheat those nachos. The cheese doesn't last very long, especially if you keep them out.

[Oscar]

So you're insinuating Sabrina Carpenter has murdered Barry Kyoga?

[Trisha Paytas]

Would that be crazy? Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all the gossips. Filthy rich Hot Topic queen and says what everybody thinks. She's just Trish.

[Oscar]

Yay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hello. Welcome back to the Jazz Church podcast. I love being here, and I hope you love being here too. It's a safe space here. We love to just listen and don't judge.

[Oscar]

Boom. Actually, Ellen, I feel like we. We do judge.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love to judge. I mean, I don't think you could get it out of your system ever, you know?

[Oscar]

No, I think we try to keep an open mind, but then. Then we go back judging, for sure. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I judge first and then try to get an open mind, honestly.

[Oscar]

You're so right. Yeah. We do have to walk things back a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because then there's sometimes where I'm like, okay, I see. I see the light. But I love to judge right away.

[Oscar]

Me too. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So fun. Shout out to the sponsors of today's episode. Caraway Home Cookware and Home Chef. Ah. We're just in the kitchen today where every woman and man and non binary should be, because it's delicious.

[Oscar]

A person.

[Trisha Paytas]

A person.

[Oscar]

You can just say person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Yeah, a person. Really? Animals, too. They love to eat. Who doesn't love to eat? Everyone should be in that kitchen. I think I stole that from Rosanna Pansino. I think she had a tweet that says, every woman belongs in the kitchen and so does a man because it's yummy or something. And I was like, period. Rosanna, tour starts in three days. We'll be in Indianapolis, Indiana. I can't wait. I am so excited. Actually was one of the first shows that sold out, so I truly can't wait. My tour manager has never even been Indianapolis, so it's a new ride for all of us. We're super excited. I am super excited. We finished rehearsals this weekend. It's a really good show. It's a really good show. I posted a little preview. It's really good. It's all the hits. Christmas, everyone's like, play Freaky. I was like, it's a Christmas show, everybody. But Freaky is in the set list, so is Iconic, and I love you, Jesus. There's remixes to every song. No song will sound the same. No song will sound the same. Yeah. My new song also will be in Detroit the following day. I am excited for Detroit. I think every place I want to go to, I want to eat somewhere. And I think I want to eat at Eminem's mom's spaghetti. It's spaghetti in a Chinese box. It's so cool. So I think I want to try there. And then we'll be in Toronto. Oh, they don't have both dates. They're slacking. We're going to be in Toronto two days. Crazy at Massey Hall. I'm excited for Toronto because Toronto is our most hyped lost passport over the weekend. But we found it. Moses couldn't even find it. I was like, oh, no. I think that's what started my. My headache, as I had such a headache because I was like, oh, my God, I won't be able to go to Toronto. Those are like our two biggest shows. But we found the passport. I'm gonna get poutine fries. Were you the one who told me McDonald's up there is good?

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's what I heard. It's the best McDonald's in the world. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the world.

[Oscar]

I think they're biased. Whoever told me I think they were Canadians.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Explained.

[Trisha Paytas]

That makes sense. Well, we'll get McDonald's up there too. I love a McDonald's. I get McDonald's anywhere I go. Honestly. Even London, whose McDonald's was garbage, if I do say so myself. Also, in the show, there'll be new songs. I have a new EP out now. It's called Postpartum Pop Star, All My Tongue Sisters Today. Yes. Postpartum Pop. Why is it so hard to say? Oh, there it is. Postpartum Pop Star out now. Because I'm postpartum and I'm a pop star. I'm going on tour nine months Postpartum, which is crazy that I just had a baby last year. But here we are going on tour, postpartum. That's out now. And the songs are amazing. So it was hard with this one because, like, half the songs were the gay songs and half the songs are about my kids. And I was like, well, I don't know. We're just gonna put them all together. So the tracks are literally bubbly, which is really cute. And then we have lullaby, which is one for my kid. Then we have McGriddles, and then we have gay. So I say three, four of songs are more gay, but I had to put the ones in about my babies because I. There wasn't a good place for it. I could have put it out as a single. But I'm like, we'll put it there. And then the album was originally gonna be all songs about my kids. So that's where the postpartum, because I had the photo and everything. And I was like, oh, I'll just put it all there. They're gonna grow up in a gay world, you know what I mean?

[Oscar]

As long as I'm lucky to be living.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. That's my next parody. That's the Shane Dawson parody. Where's the woman's world parody? That's what we need from Shane and Bart Baker. Where are they when we need them now? Also exciting news on the tour stop. It's not on here, but in between June 5th and June 7th, June 6th, we will be in Washington D.C. at World Prize. I have a good time slot. I think I'm 5:30 to 5:45. Tentatively. I thought that was pretty good. I thought It'd be like 10am I was happy to do that. I was like, yeah, for sure. A really good lineup. I think Paris Hilton's going to be there. Whoa, J. Lo.

[Oscar]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's going to be crazy.

[Oscar]

And we've always said we love J.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lo.

[Oscar]

Always been supporting our work. Yeah, they're JLo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love when I think gay pride. I think JLo Tanner does stand for everything and everyone, honestly.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every woman, every man, mi gente, Latino. Yeah. My favorite saying from her. I do love that. Why did she say that? Where was that?

[Oscar]

She's accepting award. I want to say an American Music Award.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it always.

[Oscar]

And that's that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, There you go. So we'll all be there at World Pride. We have a 15 minute set. It's gonna be good. We're gonna do something different from the tour. We're gonna do some hits. But I think you really love my song Gay. I think that's my. That's the hit on this album. So I think we're gonna perform that. Hopefully if it goes up.

[Oscar]

Well, if it doesn' Gays hate it.

[Trisha Paytas]

They may hate it. They may be like, this is too much. But I did write it with a gay. So I think he also was like, we're just like, what else? He did throw in some of it. You know what I mean? Like the iced coffees was his, like, contribute. Because I'm trying to think of what's gay, what's gay, you know, Rainbow Birkin gay. You know, we're trying to do all that. So he did throw in the. He threw in some stuff. Speed Walking was mine. I'm like, speed walking gay. Like you'll see. Listen to it. It's good. It's good. It's a good. It's just fun. It's just fun. And if you hate it, you, the gays, then we'll just pretend it didn't exist. I'll scrap it off itunes. And I think that's it. Patreon.patreon.com Just Trish. We reviewed me and Moses Going to.

[Oscar]

The Circus, which was, again, a sleeper hit from a couple years ago, and I was happy to review. I literally watched us reviewing it, like, three times because I just thought it was so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know it's good when Oscar laughs. Like, you laugh so much at, like, the Trish talks. And this one, it was good.

[Oscar]

I literally. My stomach was hurting from laughing so hard because every second I could go frame by frame of that too. There's a lot to analyze there between the two of you. It was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it was the music video the next day. And I remember being like, man, we kind of are awkward. Like, even. Even just filming the video, I was like, this is so awkward to even look at you right now. It's very. I think we're just awkward on camera.

[Moses]

I was such a romantic. Like, we were literally. You know, it was kind of like the Blake Lively Justin. We were standing there in the middle of the D floor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you did say.

[Moses]

And we were just talking to each other, and they. And they shouted, cut. And we didn't even hear it. We just kept looking at each other's eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

He didn't say that reference on the setup.

[Moses]

The moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we couldn't stop looking at each other.

[Oscar]

Oh, my gosh.

[Moses]

We missed the cut. We actually was like, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess we get now how they get caught up in it.

[Moses]

We get lost in each other's eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I was just more, like, embarrassed. I was like, oh, my God, this is so cringy.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God, it's too funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why it's good you're over there. I can barely see you. The lights are blinding me. So I kind of don't always see Moses. So sometimes I'm, like, looking over, which is probably good because I do think, like, couples who make content a little cringy, you know what I mean? Just in general, like, whenever I see couples together, I'm like, you know, yours.

[Oscar]

In particular, because you guys were engaged at this point. But the way you're talking on this, like, shoot, you guys, you have to see this video. It's literally so good. It's so worth the $10 subscription. Because it's literally like you guys just met 15 minutes ago. Because the small talk that they're attempting to make. Yeah, the circus is pretty hard, isn't it? Yeah. Harder than I thought. And then randomly, Moses is juggling. Trish is doing pirouettes in the background for no reason. It is the most absurd.

[Moses]

Isn't that what you expect from the circus?

[Oscar]

I mean, all eyes on me in the center of the ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just like a circus copyright. We'll watch the Patreon because Oscar's reactions are good too. Yeah.

[Oscar]

The reaction makes it. And also, like, you get the behind the scenes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And that's important. It's important.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. It was like we were on the Bachelor. Like, those awkward dates they do at everything. Moses says.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he's giving nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Giving nothing. The teacher was giving more than both of us, and she was over it. So it's pretty funny. It's pretty good. Moses kind of ate. He kind of played at all the challenges.

[Moses]

Well, whenever. It's an athletic thing, you know, which.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is surprising because I never see you do anything athletic. You never did sports growing up, though. So.

[Moses]

So much of our. I mean, that our dating has been the videos.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Moses]

We met and we quickly. You know, everything was quickly together. Most of our dates are documented.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should react to the first ever mukbang we did. That's the most awkward. Everyone there is like, this is the awkward thing. He hates her, doesn't want to be there. He is judgy in that one. You can just, like, look at me. Like, we're eating Korean fried cheese, and then we get a waffle cone. And Moses eats nothing throughout the whole thing. He's just, like, looking at me. Like, also, his seat was. His seat was pulled all the way back, and mine was to the front, ginormous. And he's so tiny. This is, like, a small car. My mall era. So I have, like, no hair. Like, it's crazy. Like, that video is wild to watch.

[Moses]

Like, but we literally just met. Like, we weren't even a month.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it wasn't just met.

[Moses]

No, but I'm saying we weren't, like, dating exclusively and be like, wow, this is. This is us.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was crazy, but we're still as awkward as ever. And the new music video that also drops February 20th. McGriddle not sponsored. Which it was. Should have been, but I love a McGriddle.

[Moses]

What's your thoughts on it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you did shave for Bridgerton. It's Bridgeton themed People think the thing. People thought we did Bridgerton for, like, a Valentine's shoot, but we just wanted to bridge.

[Oscar]

What is the crossover between the McGriddle and Bridgerton?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Because the. The hook is. This is what no one got. Literally no one on the side had seen Bridget. Not my director, who I was like. And we're, like, close, and we, like, connect on so many things. I was like, have you never seen Bridgeton? So didn't really get the storyline, but the whole. It should be called messy because the, like, the refrain is like, mess. You know, that's how I like it. Messy. I'm thinking you should try. So basically, like, it's basically about being just, like, a messy person or whatever. And anyways, then it kind of goes like. The verse goes like, I do just what I like. They say, control your wife. I'm like, don't even try. So it's kind of very like, she kind of is doing her own thing. So it's like, you can't control me. I'm just gonna be this way. So it was giving Penelope in, like, being Lady Whistledown. Everyone's just like. He's like, okay, you need to stop. She's. I don't think I want to. Like, that's the whole.

[Oscar]

Okay, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she's, like, messy. And so that's where it comes in. And. Yeah. So literally no one on the set, no one playing. Like, no one knew who. What Bridgerton was. I was like, isn't this the biggest show in the world? Like, I'm just so confused how no one saw it. Not one person. I was like, okay, so my director was like. During the party scene at the end, the finale, where, like, the queen comes in is like, hey, you come this way. You know? And I'm, like, looking scared. I'm like, okay, I'm very nervous. Tell everybody my secret. He's having mo. Like, he's like, no, go into it. Like it's a party. And I was like, no, I don't think that's how the vibe is. So anyways, I did pull a Blake Lively and I took over directing. Then I felt like it in the moment because I had to, like, redirect. He would direct Moses. I'm like, actually, Moses, you remember? I came out like, actually, can you do it like this? I was. I was.

[Moses]

She was like, look, confused, but. But you're happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

That's literally how I actually feel right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you killed it. You crushed it. No, and everyone crushed it. We had a, like, background and featured actors and, like, everyone crushed it.

[Moses]

There were, like 20 people, you know, and everyone were like, wigs and costumes, and they were. They were having a blast. I mean, yeah, the cast would not stop laughing and dancing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, we should put a clip. Like, literally after we, like, wrapped everyone, like, hey, thank you. They all just started going like, trisha, Trisha. It was very concert. I was like, this is. That's never happened on a music video. So everyone was very nice. Everyone was very hyped, and it was cold and it was pouring rain. It was Thursday, so it was like, pouring rain. And we were going outside to use the bathroom. Probably why I got a little. I'm not sick. I went urgent care yesterday. I'm like, fine. But my throat came back up. I was like, dang it. But, yeah, it's good. It's out. It's good. It comes out February 20th. And because of tour, I get to make music. I'm just gonna make music videos and I'll break even again on this tour, spend everything we made on music videos. But I want to get you guys new music and new music videos. So we start off with the Disney Channel era, but then it goes into 2025 era of the new Trish, and then we go back to the fat girl era and then sad boy and then the Broadway and then the hits. You make it in there. There's a whole iconic, like, segment. And you called me iconic at one point in our ET and so does Bowen Yang. So there's a whole segment. I think Meghan Trainor's in there. I think there's a bunch of people. And I was like, wow, a lot of people call me iconic. So that introduces our iconic video. And it's. It's very cute, and I think you guys will like it. All the videos are really cute. We got. We made a bunch of special, extra special videos for this show. I think it's gonna be a good one, you guys. I don't think you should miss out. So I think there's still tickets left for Detroit and the second show in Toronto. So get your tickets today. Get your meet and greet. The meet and greet packages are fabulous. And that's my favorite part is meeting everybody. Honestly, I should just do a meet and greet tours. No one probably cares about the show. They're like, we just want a picture.

[Oscar]

No, I think this one people are very invested because it's the hits. It's the hits.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is my. My final, my finale, my farewell tour.

[Oscar]

It's a hello, kind of a hello toy and a Farewell tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's first tour and last tour. Because it's a lot. It's like, so much touring. I was like, this is a lot. And I'm excited. I'm not gonna have boots I'll probably be wearing. Literally. I'm not gonna show you my legs because they're kind of pale right now. But I have Keds on, so they'll probably be Ked sneakers on stage. But that's a whole other thing that you'll have to go to my Tick Tock for. How are you, Oscar?

[Oscar]

Good. You are kind of giving me Shakira vibes, by the way. I was thinking. Well, because there's a whole. It's a perfect segue into a Hot Topic that I am dying to discuss because it is so. You coded. Shakira has been accused of plagiarizing Beyonce's Renaissance tour. Yeah. It's, like, been a whole viral thing. Because in 2023, Shakira did go to see the Renaissance tour, and Billboard asked her, like, oh, what are you doing here, Shakira? And she said, oh, I'm here working, taking notes. And then she's up front.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, yeah.

[Oscar]

And then the. The concert happened. She just performed the Las Mujeres. Yeah. No yaran. I hope I said that. Okay, world tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's it mean?

[Oscar]

Women who don't cry. I mean, maybe you're pretty good.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were translating the Temptation island really good.

[Oscar]

I am, contextually, like, I'm very, like, white Latina. Because I can. I. I know some words contextually.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's pretty good.

[Oscar]

But yeah, I can kind of get the gist.

[Trisha Paytas]

We gotta learn it. We gotta take Spanish this year.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Patreon. Maybe we should start, like, duolingo or something. Is that interesting? Probably. I don't care.

[Oscar]

I do have a duolingo Hot Topic later on today.

[Moses]

Yeah, it was trending.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love duolingo. We use duolingo. I like it.

[Oscar]

Okay, I'm going to show you just so you can get the tea. I'll show you the comparison. Because it actually is so funny. And it does remind me of something that you would do well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, who doesn't love to reheat some nachos? You know what I mean?

[Moses]

Like, I've seen that going around.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're heating nachos everywhere.

[Moses]

The Twitter was accusing Tick Tock of stealing that from there anyway.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of the reheating nachos. That's so funny.

[Oscar]

Okay, I'll play this video and Jimmy can insert it in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Oh.

[Oscar]

So the Outfits. The silver.

[Trisha Paytas]

She said, let me do the choreo. Damn. The screen too. That is crazy.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah, the outfits was a big thing too. The silver outfits with the dancers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. Then there's also some comparisons to Eras Tour too. Oh yeah. The big thing is Beyonce has like the silver horse Renee and then Shakira has a silver wolf that comes out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm dead.

[Oscar]

I kind of live. I think she, like you said, she was kind of upfront about it. She was like, yeah, I'm taking notes. And she was. She was studying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do too. I like live for it. But here's where I think it's like a little. You guys know I love to copy everything, but I'm me. I'm like going with no sets. Like, I'm not performing stadiums. I think if you're like Christina Aguilera and you copy like Britney Spears is every move, that's like annoying. So I think like, they're just so big, both of them, then it might be a little like. Excuse me. What?

[Oscar]

You know, it is wild because even the. I think the fonts being so similar too, it's like, I think you gotta at least Tyra Banks always says, steal from the best and make it your own. And I think like, maybe just change the font or maybe instead of silver, gold. I don't know, like changes the metals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Change a lot, honestly. Because that's. That's actually crazy. That's. I can compare it to me. I'll compare it to me. Like, okay, so obviously I take from everything like Britney Spears, whatever. And again, it's like, it's me. Like, you know, Ariana Garner doesn't care that I'm copying her. You know, I'm not the girl who. What's her name? Paige. Is her name Paige. So you know what I mean? Like, I don't look exactly. So whatever. They don't care. They're like, whatever. Whatever this little fat wants to do, let her do it. You know what I mean? So I can compare. It is like if another YouTubers copies me directly and like, I don't have original ideas. I'm not claiming to. However, I do think my Fat Chicks video was somewhat original. But I give that credit to my director, Andrew Valentine. I was like, okay, it's kind of like an original idea. Not that original. It's a diner. It's like, whatever. But I didn't copy anyone really, per se. There was no, like mood board for that. I was just like, oh, I want this, I want this. Whatever. And he had his ideas okay, then, like, another YouTuber who's like, same caliber as me, right? A couple years later, hires my same music video director, gets the same location, same hairstylist, same Cedric, my choreographer, saying, like, it's literally a shot by shot. She's outside in the ponytail. She's on a colored wall, like, with the same, like, bouffant hair. She's in the dinosaur, like, shot by shot. Really just a different song. And I know I did that with My Chemical Romance, but it's My Chemical Romance, right? I'm not competing with them. It was 20 years ago, but this was, like, within a couple of years of each other. We're both YouTubers. And I'm like, that's annoying. You know what I mean? I feel like. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. So I think if you're at the same, like, caliber and not necessarily competing, but you're in the same field where you can just get my music director and my choreographer and just take the exact same concept, like, that's annoying. You know what I mean? Because no one can do Beyonce's Renaissance unless you have a Shakira budget. If I did Renaissance, we'll have a silver My Little Pony. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, this is. This is what you get, you know? And we love and people are there for the key.

[Oscar]

And, like, on your ERA store, you're not, like, diving under the stage.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's no diving. There's some bubble guns that get slippery, and I almost fell the other day on there, but other than that. And they're bubble shooters, not guns. That's such a crazy thing to say. They shoot bubbles. Guns is wild, but so love it. And I guess if I had the budget, would I recreate entire Britney Spears residency? Probably falling off a tree maybe. But I'd hope someone along the way would be like, let's try something original. Like my Broadway show, it was different creatives. They gave me some originality in there, and I was like, I love creating something that's unique and different as opposed to a copy. So that one's wild. And as someone who copies everyone, I'm gonna have to say I'd be a little. Actually, she got sick recently, and everyone's like, that's because she was reheating Beyonce's nachos. Don't reheat those nachos. The cheese doesn't last very long, especially if you keep them out. Thank you to the sponsor of today's episode, Caraway Home Cookware. Quit cooking with toxins and start cooking with Caraway. February is the time for entertaining. Whether it's a Galentine's Day brunch with the girls or or a Super bowl watch party, Caraway has you covered for Valentine's Day. We did a fun little baking with the girls little cookies and it was so much fun to get to do that with them and decorate and then put in the oven and then get these nice warm cookies. It was a new experience because my daughter is finally old enough to decorate the cookies and it was just so nice to have caraway, just to have no toxins and be safe for the whole family. Semi crunchy girls unite. Even if we're indulging in sweets or greasy apps, it's nice to know that using non toxic cookware can make for a guilt free indulgence. Swapping over to Caraway has been one of the most important adulting decisions of my life. If you're still in the New Year New Me mindset, Caraway's organization and storage solutions of all their products keep your cabinets decluttered and your kitchen cleaner. So why should you switch to caraway? Well, quit cooking with toxins. 95% of home goods are made with toxic chemicals like PTFE or Teflon. Over 75% of fry pans sold in America contain Teflon. 97% of Americans have PFAS, toxic chemicals from non stick cookware in their blood. Two and a half minutes is all it takes before a non stick pan overheats and releases toxins. Make the swap to non toxic living today with Caraway's cookware set. It will save you 150 versus buying items individually. Plus if you visit CarawayHome.com Trish you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase. The deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit carawayhome.com trish or use code Trish at checkout Caraway Non Toxic Cookware Made Modern. Thank you Caraway Home Cookware. We love you for sponsoring and truly, truly truly guys, it is much much safer. When I was starting to read all the benefits of it, I couldn't even believe that I haven't been using them before. And just all the toxins that you can save just by cooking cleaner is very very nice to check out. Caraway Home Cookware. We love you. Thank you for sponsoring. Don't reheat those nachos.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I mean they are. I guess that does make sense. They are pretty much on an equal playing field. Like obviously Shakira is iconic and a legend and so is Beyonce. They've collabor, so I feel like they're in the same domain even though they have different genres. Like, they're both, like, the queens of their genre. So that does.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

A little bit more complicated. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But that's a problem that they're in a different genre, because somebody might go and see Shakira's show and think, oh, this is original. This is her show. Not knowing what the reference is, they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Think, like, Beyonce copied Shakira. I've done that with Joey Graceffa with his. What is the story of my life?

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. His cover of story.

[Trisha Paytas]

I literally was like, that's so good. And then when I heard one direction, I was like, that's crazy. Like, you know what I mean? So, yeah, that could very well be the case. I would be, like, annoyed, but I guess I don't know.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I'm so curious as to what Beyonce thinks, because they are, like, peers.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I doesn't care, I guess.

[Oscar]

I guess she probably doesn't care.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would.

[Oscar]

There's some things, like, someone said, like, oh, in 2002, Shakira or had, like, a giant cobra that was, like, similar to Beyonce's horse. But I think the idea of inflatables is kind of like, anyone can do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they inflatable?

[Oscar]

They're like big inflatables that, like, come out on stage, but they're, like, giant. But they're like a pool floaty kind of. Yeah. Like, they. When they deconstructed, like, they just suck the air out. Like, Taylor Swift did that on her reputation tour. Shakira did that, went to 2002 and again on this tour. And Beyonce did that with Renee the horse. So that idea has been around for sure. But I think obviously you're gonna get influence. Like, you're gonna see someone use a technology and be like, oh, I want to do that. But I think this one is just like, you can kind of do a shot by shot and see it looks very similar.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that was crazy that I haven't seen that anywhere. Like, the shot by shot. That's. That is wild. That's crazy. But Shakira, I feel like also she is original. Like, I feel like all her music and all her videos are pretty original. And, like, people want to copy her. So it's, like, kind of surprising that she.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think maybe it's her team, too. And then I know a couple. Maybe, like, last year, she got Taylor's merch. Designer Taylor has this, like, merch where it's like hand drawn, like versions of herself for all her different eras that she's done for a couple years. And she always, like updates it with like different, like drawings that. With the different outfits. And then Shakira got the same merch designer to do that. Shakira got the same merch. It's very similar to that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it really?

[Oscar]

It's like, yeah, it's like the different, like illustrations of the different, like iconic outfits. Then this is Taylor Swift or whatever. And then Shakira got the same merge team and did the same thing. But Shakira, I'm done.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I kind of respect it. I would love to do that. Honestly, I probably would. Any show anything. Just.

[Oscar]

It is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like you said, it is one thing take like inspiration. So they need to be like, let me just take every little thing.

[Oscar]

I know it probably is just the Deans, but I just. I love that there's that direct quote though that she did. She did go to the Renaissance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who gave the quote.

[Oscar]

You think it's a real quote to Billboard? So yeah, Billboard is like, obviously a very real, authentic music journalist. So that's how we kind of know it's the real tea. But I was like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess if you're gonna copy anyone, Beyonce's.

[Oscar]

Beyonce is the blueprint.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or Taylor Swift was so huge. Like, why wouldn't she want to copy the era?

[Oscar]

Yeah, the best one.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I'm sure no one else has done it except me and the queen. What was the one you said that does her.

[Oscar]

Oh, Taylor shift? I think I always get her last name wrong, but I think it's Taylor.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that no one's given her a season desist. Like, okay, you can just go out there and perform our songs.

[Oscar]

Yours. I was a little surprised.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really. I think it's pretty different. We have the eras of. Trish does not give up. She is like.

[Moses]

And you have errors. It's not like you don't have. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

It did relate the most to me when I was thinking about doing. When I put together my eras of tour church, I was like, I don't know if anyone else could say. YouTuber could say they have Erasmus music. You know what I mean? Let me think of somebody.

[Oscar]

I'm really thinking because I think your eras are very much defined because you did, like drastically change your vibe. Yeah, obviously everyone kind of has eras, you know, of their lives. But yours are very distinct, like, similar to Taylor because she has like, reputation. She's all snakes. You have sad boy you're all in your emo.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I have my Disney Channel era where I was just doing only Disney covers that whole year. In, like, 2019, I was doing Disney Cow. I was like, I kind of have it. I have a couple, like, what would be called. Where you're like, speak different languages. What is that called?

[Oscar]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

But even, like, trilingual, Like, I feel like I put out a bunch of different. I can speak multiple languages. So I was like, I was gonna do that, but I, like. I was like, I don't know if these are, like, the hits, you know what I mean? Because I could have done, like, my Spanish freaky stuff. I had a couple different language songs.

[Moses]

Music genres, like, all the different music genres.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I just feel like mine are just my fat girl era, where, like, all my songs are about being fat. I mean, I don't think I'm in my fat girl era now. I think I'm in my skinny era.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

In my head. In my head, I feel like I'm, like, the skinniest I've ever been. My scale says differently, but it's crazy. I really think I look so good. And then sometimes you do look good. No, but then you, like. I watch myself back, like, you know, not to body compare, but next to people, and you're just like, damn, like, three times their size. Specifically you. I'm kind of like, double your size. It's kind of like, damn. I was never kind of like, huge.

[Oscar]

Double my size at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where were we together? We were together in something, and I was like, I kind of look huge.

[Moses]

Okay. This episode, we did get it out of the way. We didn't get it out of the system before.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right. Right. I'm hungry. I was. That's why I'm hungry. I was thinking I should order McDonald's, and I was like, well, I'm kind of skinny. I can order McDonald's.

[Oscar]

But you're just factually not double.

[Trisha Paytas]

The fat girl era. We're talking about eras. That's how we got here.

[Moses]

Let's go back to there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm in the skinny girl era now. Well, I'm in my postpartum era. That's right, man. I'm in postpartum right now. So anyways, I think mine are defined. I don't know if you can define anyone else's. You know, Shane Dawson. How can you? Does he have eras? No, he was just Shane and all his music videos.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I'm trying to think music. Like, who would have actual eras? I don't know. Like, obviously, everyone tries different things, but it is still kind of them. Whereas you, I just feel like, are very distinct and different. Like, even looking at old videos of you, it's like, oh, this is such a specific kind of Trish in this time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I really did change multiple times. Maybe it's the personalities that changed, but that's okay. We always have to change and grow and evolve. And I've been good about not calling myself fat lately, though. I've been pretty good about it. Oh, on Patreon, we eat from the Skinnylicious Cheesecake Factory. We both got dishes under 600 calories. Mine was a pasta that was 5.90. Like, how does. How does that happen? But you made a good point. You said, like, Lean Cuisines are like that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it is kind of giving Lean Cuisine vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's try Lean Cuisines for Patreon. Do you like them?

[Oscar]

I'll eat a Ling cuisine. Yeah, I don't like, love them, but I do have them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to love frozen food as a kid. Like, I always put frozen food in the. Like, those meals, like the kids cuisines.

[Oscar]

Oh, love those. Oh, with the brownie and little stars Mac and cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, the star nuggets.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did your parents cook?

[Oscar]

They did, yeah. I mean, nothing like crazy. Like, they cooked. There was, like, a couple nights where they cooked, like, from scratch, I guess. And then a lot of the times, like, a frozen, you know, chicken nugget or something. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's common.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because even, like, last night, actually. You know what? Actually, last night, that's what I did. I. We ordered mastros because it was like. It was like a celebration. What were we celebrating? I don't know. From, oh, Valentine's Day. We wanted it on Valentine's Day, but they weren't, like, delivering, I guess, because it was too busy. And then Saturday, it was too busy. I was like, what the hell? So then Sunday, we finally got our masters, and then I was like, well, we should probably order nuggets for Malibu because she's not gonna like any of this stuff. She ate half my filet mignon. I was like, she loved it. And she kept saying, like, look, look, look. I'm eating. I'm eating filet. I love filet. I was like, that's crazy. $65 flamingo. And I was like, okay, it's good. It's better than the chicken nuggets that she wanted. But I was like, damn. Okay. Point of that was, I think about this morning because once again, I'm hungry, and I Think, oh, I should order, like, McDonald's for, like, a snack or something. Like, when I came out to see my dad in the summer for breakfast, he would go and get us, like, a dozen donuts at the, like, you know, little donut shop. We eat those. On the way to his work, my brother and I would split him, like, 6 and 6 in the morning. And I was like, this is from ages, like, 10 to 14 or something like that. Then for lunch, we get Domino's Pizza, always delivered to the conference room. Because my dad, like, owned a small company, so like, he had a business with, like, 30 employees. And there was, like, a conference room, and we'd eat the Domino's pizza in there. And then for dinner, he would get us, like, McDonald's or, like, Wendy's. And that was, like, our diet for the whole summer. And we would eat that every single day. And we were, like, 10 years old. I was 10. My brother's, like, 13. And I remember I came back and my mom was, like, so pissed because we gained, like, 40 pounds. We gained so much because we weren't exercising. My brother, like, later found golf, and so he was able to, like, walk and, like, lose weight. But I would just sit in the clubhouse. I wouldn't, because I'm not golfing. And then in the clubhouse, they have snacks. I mean, I was like, just get whatever you want. Because, like. But I'm like, how crazy is that? Like, I don't really blame my dad because, like, maybe he didn't know. I don't know. But it's like, even cooking frozen food or just, like, whatever. Like, we cook spaghetti or. I'm like, that's so much better than just, like, feeding your child, like, fast. But literally every meal, we had fast food, which is crazy, which is why I'm so comfortable eating it now. I'm like, let's just get Domino's. Let's get McDonald's. Which isn't, like, often. I know it seems often because I'm always eating it here, but it's actually wild to think that, like, kids grow up that way. I mean, his parents don't know any different, but maybe now people do. Maybe now people are like, oh, no, let's not give our kids McDonald's. But I don't know. Every meal's wild. Every meal, McDonald's. See about that. This morning, I was like, damn. I really didn't have good eating habits instilled upon me as a kid.

[Oscar]

No, I didn't either. I think the nutritional, like, knowledge became more mainstream. Like, 2000 and tens. I feel like that's when it kind of shifted. And then they kind of started putting, like, the calories on things and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they stopped the super size. Remember they could do Super Size?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it because of that movie you.

[Oscar]

Think it probably has something to do?

[Trisha Paytas]

You remember you could always get them, like, or biggies at Wendy's or, like, King Size at Burger King. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know if you can do that anymore. And they would ask you, oh, do you want to super size that? Do you want a biggie? Maybe they sell biggies at Wendy's. I don't know. But it's kind of crazy.

[Oscar]

That is kind of a good segue into Benny Blanco's gift for Selena gome Valentine's Day. He. Because he said Selena isn't much of a flowers girl, so he surprised her with a bathtub full of liquid nacho cheese as a present.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it in theory, but it cannot taste good after just being, like, sat there for a while. Like, you need that hot queso. And what kind was a little tostito jars that he was just pouring in there, like. Or is it like, kind of like the movie theater, the plastic, and you just, like, dump all that cheese in there.

[Oscar]

I feel like it has to be that kind because it was a whole bathtub full of it.

[Moses]

It can't be a little jars and gallons. They must have brought it in buckets. Like, big buckets of cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I love nachos and cheese, and I love bolognese, but I don't want a tub of it. That sounds crazy.

[Oscar]

Okay. I was very curious. Did you want to take on it? No. But I thought. I'm like, oh, you love not chopped cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

But especially when she's, like, sitting anything that's, like, just sitting for a period of time. I'm like, I don't want it.

[Oscar]

I was thinking more like in. In the bathtub sounds.

[Moses]

The bathtub itself. Yeah, the process.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, do you think she wanted to sit in it? I thought the chips going along the way and they were gonna dip them. Sitting in would be crazy. Is that what you mean? Oh, my God. Just taking a bath in the queso.

[Oscar]

I don't think you bathe in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But why else did you do that? You eat it or you bathe?

[Moses]

Why the bath? Like, how do you even come up with that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it their bath? It looked like it was in their house.

[Oscar]

I think it was just one of their.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. I'd be pissed. I'd be like, who the hell's cleaning all this out?

[Oscar]

Who is cleaning it up? I do have. I have follow up questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Same. I think in that same interview, he's like, I'm always scared one day I'm just gonna wake up and she wants to leave me. Yeah, because you put Queso in the bathtub. I didn't know this about you. Damn. I'd be like, what the hell?

[Oscar]

She did comment on it and on, like, the TikTok, she said, I love everything about this. Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mask made in heaven, I guess. But he didn't show her reaction.

[Oscar]

He didn't show her reaction.

[Moses]

I think everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need to see the reaction.

[Oscar]

That is a big game changer between.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Taco Bell proposal and this. I'm just like, I don't see it. I don't get it. But okay.

[Oscar]

Love is love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love is love. Someone is out there for you. That's for sure. There's someone for everyone. You think they're gonna make it to the altar?

[Oscar]

I think so. They seem really in love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I hope so.

[Oscar]

They did a whole Interview magazine photo shoot and, like, a lot of videos for it. And I kind of, again, I felt bad because everyone keeps being like, oh, he's so ugly. Selena. Why?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy, though.

[Oscar]

So bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's so many other things to judge him for, like the Queso and the Taco Bell proposal. Like, so many other things. Ugly is the least of the concern.

[Oscar]

I know. I feel bad. I'm rooting for them just because I want them to stick it to everyone who, like, wants them to break up. I'm like, no, they can make it.

[Trisha Paytas]

People really do want to just ruin a happy thing, don't they? They see, like they're in love and they're like, let's just say how ugly he is, and then maybe she'll break up with him. Which is also crazy when people think that they're like, maybe we say this enough, she'll just break up with him.

[Oscar]

I know. It makes me sad. He's also not like, the most hideous person in the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar]

Quasimodo might be, but yeah, he did say in the Interview magazine interview that he is scared that one day she's gonna wake up and change her mind about him.

[Trisha Paytas]

That gave me a little pause for concern. I'm like, if you have that feeling already, that might happen. If you manifest that. You know what I mean? You're like, one day he's gonna leave me. It might happen.

[Oscar]

He said, I worship the ground she walks on. And I feel like she's the same way to me. There's no ego between us. She's praying for me to win, and I'm praying for her to win, which is cute. And then he said, I wake up in the morning, I know she does the same thing. And I'm like, how can I make her life better? Holding her isn't close enough. I want to be inside her whole body. Oh, I just feel a thing for her that I can't even explain. I'm so sappy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute. It is cute.

[Oscar]

The inside her whole body. We could have. We could have cut that out.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, you know, I feel that sometimes you can't get close enough. You're just like. Like the substance is very. Right.

[Oscar]

Oh, we never saw it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone's in the body, I think. I don't know.

[Oscar]

I think the drug is in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Body, but isn't the person, like, they unzip the back and the person comes out of the back.

[Oscar]

Oh, is that what it is?

[Trisha Paytas]

You gotta watch it. Really do at this and see what it is.

[Oscar]

The amount of times we reference it without having seen it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where I thought you saw it, because you, like, know so much about it. So I thought you had seen it.

[Oscar]

I could say the same to you, sister.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just repeat what you say. And I was like, oh, yeah, that sounds right. Anything you tell me, I'm like, oh, yeah, that sounds good.

[Oscar]

That's very dangerous. I know. But, I mean, I don't know. I'm still rooting for them. I think they'll make it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I hope so.

[Oscar]

I hope so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. I think there's couples that last in Hollywood, and they could be one of it. Selena, I mean, he cooks for her, too. It's also, like, a secret. If you cook for someone, they always say it's the key to a man's heart. Man, stop. Go through the heart, through the stomach. Remember that saying?

[Oscar]

Yeah. The key to a man's heart is through his stomach. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Is that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. What works for women, too. It probably works more for women because women are just, like, obsessed with food. So, like, if you're cooking for me, D and D. That's why I can never replace Moses with Zaka Frog. We get anybody. No one's making me bolognese. Every Thursday night or even when I ask. Sometimes I just. A Sunday night, I was like, let's give me bolognese. Like, okay. And it was late, and I came home and I was like, can we. Give me bowl. He's like, okay, yeah.

[Oscar]

What if you had a bathtub of Bolognese?

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely not.

[Oscar]

Oh, you would hate that too.

[Moses]

She didn't even like the person feeding with their hands.

[Trisha Paytas]

I still want to do that. No, I did like that. I wanted to.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you wanted to recreate that. Harry Daniels, once again, put me in a text with the guy from that video, Terry. Shout out Terry.

[Trisha Paytas]

And do what?

[Oscar]

Because I guess he works with. Well, ironically, Harry Daniels was with the Heim sisters and Gabriette who fed the spaghetti to Terry.

[Trisha Paytas]

When was he with them?

[Oscar]

Last week. And he. Yeah, he was like, I need to see one of the girls. Because Terry works with a lot of people. Like Charlie Terry, the guy that got fed the spaghetti in the video.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

And he works with like Charlie XCX and Heim and Lord. So he works with a lot of girlies. And shout out Harry Daniels. He's very persistent. He said, terry, I need one of those girls on the pink chair.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's always trying to book his guests that we never get.

[Oscar]

Well, also, shout out Terry. He's like, I'm the one responsible for getting Trisha on Women's World.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Yes, yes, yes. I know this story now. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, well, I didn't get to meet him there with someone. I think the casting person. I told you it was a weird way. It was like this, like, weird email. And he's like, he does. He works on their social media or something that Carrie does. Okay. That's what he's saying. He's like, yeah, he does social media for all these people. And he's like, you guys should get Trish. And I was like, oh, okay. Oh, shout out Terry Work. That's crazy. I always love finding out who's the one who gave my name because I'm like, that's crazy. And I also want to thank them. So shout out Terry. That's like, even snl, like the writer, Asha was the one who was like, we should see if Trisha Payton's come. I was like, I'll always, like, love her. I was like, shout out Asha, the 25 year old female writer on that sketch. And I was just like, work. Like, I was like, thank you so much. And then obviously Bo made it happen. But, like, it is crazy. Love you, Terry. What's he look like?

[Oscar]

He's cute. He got it like twunk vibes, actually. Yeah. But he. I told him that you wanted to recreate that pasta video and he was very excited. So you guys actually have to do it now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, I mean, if Terry's here, I'll do it with him. That's so iconic. Who was feeding it?

[Oscar]

Gabriette, Who's. She's a model. She's Maddie Healy's fiance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did it blow up so big then? Because I thought it was like, Charlie XCX. I did it.

[Oscar]

It was actually XCX. XCX's Grammys after party.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder why it got so big.

[Oscar]

I think because it was just so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Brat, you know, because the pasta was, like, in the middle.

[Oscar]

It was each. Everyone had their own plate of pasta, but she just grabbed it. And then there was someone else also eating the pasta with their hands. Honestly, I kind of want to interview Terry about that moment because, like, what was going on? That's a lot of questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. Honestly, if they each had their own plate of pasta, is it that big of a deal? I thought it was like one, like.

[Oscar]

Shared like, a pepper. No, it looked like everyone kind of had their own plate, but I don't know. Or maybe like the side of the table was sharing that bowl of pasta because then why was she feeding it to Terry? I have a lot of followers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, here's the pasta.

[Oscar]

Okay, let's reach out for a statement.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

It was steaming in that video. That's why I'm like, gabriette. I have to reach out to Gabriette too.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were like drinking and they didn't feel it because that's crazy to not feel the hotel because even when I'm just eating it, I'm like, it's so hot.

[Oscar]

Burns the roof of your mouth.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, why to touch it with your hands is wild. Shout out Terry. Yes, I know that story now because I was like, trying to figure out who.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I know. And shout out Harry. I love that. Harry is just always.

[Trisha Paytas]

Harry is the socialite of 2025.

[Oscar]

No one is working harder for the Just Trish cinematic universe besides you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even at the Wicked more than me. At the Wicked podcast as a Wicked premiere, Harry Daniels came up. He's like, I just sang to Benny Blanco and told him he needs to go on Just Trish. I said, what did he say? He's like, okay, but what would I talk about? And I was like. And I said, what did you say? He's like, I don't know. Well, put him in touch with me.

[Moses]

Because he has a lot of questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

We do. I would love Betty Blanco on the podcast. He seems wonderful. I wonder if he still writes music. Can you write me a song?

[Oscar]

He's writing music with Selena Gomez right now for her new album.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she has another album coming out?

[Oscar]

Yeah, she just announced it. It's coming out in March. And she had like a first song that she did with Benny and it's like a. I think it was Scared of Loving you ironically.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love that song. I love the title. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I'm. Senegal was coming back. I really thought me and Addison Rae were gonna take over the pop music game, but I guess it's Selena's coming. We might need to watch out.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because everyone else isn't really releasing right now. Sabrina just had her deluxe album of Short and Sweet, which is good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which, by the way, all this Gen Z all over Tick tock. My whole FYP is like, oh, my gosh. They listen to the Dolly verse and like, what is this? This is so bad. I was like, do you guys even know what Dolly sounds like and how iconic it is to have her on that track? Like, people were just trashing it. Like all these, like, Gen Z ears. It made me piss me off. I was like, dolly is so iconic. The fact that she got on there like crazy. Because she doesn't do any duets. Well, I guess with Post Malone she does, but in general, she doesn't really do duets. Like, that was Barry Keoghan in the back or like the person supposed to be Barry?

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, there was a little Easter egg. A Barry Keoghan Easter egg.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why do people think it was him?

[Oscar]

Because so for her. Please, please, please, with Dolly Parton, she filmed like a little music video and there's a scene where they're driving in, like, a truck and police sirens are coming after them. And then it cuts to the back of the pickup truck and then there is a guy who's wearing the same outfit as Barry Keoghan from the police. Police. Police music video. Like the. The white tank and then the pants with the duct tape on his face.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, and they killed him. Or.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Has anyone heard from Barry since? What if that's. I was about that. What was the other ones? Lady Gaga and Beyonce. Remember that one?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Telephone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was up. What if they did that in real life? Or like that Earl song by the Dixie Chicks, like, goodbye. Like, what if they did that and they're just, like, telling everybody and everyone's just, like, laughing like it's like, funny, but like, they actually did something and no one, like, knew. I think that's like a basis of a movie where it's like, no, this is really happening. Everyone's just like, maybe it was a scary movie. Remember Scary Movie?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were like, watching whatever it's called Stab. And then the girl is actually getting, like, murdered during the movie and everyone's like, laughing and they're like, yeah. Cheering And I was like, like, that's crazy that people can just do that and just tell you. Or it's like Kaiser. So say he, like, told his whole story. Did you see Usual Suspects? Oh, well, I guess a spoiler, but it's like 30 years old. So it's fine. Kevin, you see? No. Do you know the movie or no?

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Kevin Spacey plays Kaiser. So. Well, Kevin Spacey plays this guy and he's talking to, like, Chaz Palmintero, who's like the detective of this case. And he's confessing his whole story to him, basically. And the guys like, lets him go. He like, lets him go. He's like, okay, you can go. And at the end we find out he's Kaiser. So say the one he was talking about and just confessed the whole thing to the cop and the cop just let him walk. And I was like, so what if that's happening here? Like, all these pop stars are like, wow, look at me. I just like off this person and then be like, oh. And then. Yeah, they never know any different. You know what I mean? Like Avril Lavigne, supposedly, she's like this dupe or whatever. I'm like, maybe someone.

[Moses]

Well, there so many movies in Hollywood that they claim kind of depict, you know, real life.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying.

[Moses]

Like that one you saw on the airplane. I didn't see that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Blink twice.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that is so real. I think that's why it's a good movie, but also like, probably why I didn't get any attention because it's like, so real of how, like.

[Moses]

Yeah, or the Matrix.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar]

Oh, the major.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that based on real life? Oh, my God, we saw that. And I, like, could not keep up with it. I was like, I don't like this. The last one we saw.

[Oscar]

So you're insinuating Sabrina Carpenter has murdered Barry Kyoga.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wouldn't that be crazy? Look, I put a lot of dead bodies in the back. Back of my car in music videos, so I could be just saying the same thing.

[Oscar]

But yeah, basically, I gotta love that she did that. Like, obviously all the music videos have been, like, tied in together like an espresso. She gets arrested and please, please, please, in the police station. So I like the continuation of the Sabrina Carpenter cinematic universe.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she can go to prison in the next one.

[Oscar]

Well, she was just in prison. Yeah, she broke. Yeah, she got out.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what's the next one?

[Oscar]

I guess we'll see. I think she said it's going to be for Busy Woman is supposed to be her next single, but I think the Easter egg just is so cute because she obviously doesn't say anything. She became very Taylor Swift in the sense that she stopped doing interviews. Where before Sabrina Pre Espresso you couldn't keep that girl away from interview. She would release a single, and then they'd be like, you want to interview Sprinting Carpenter? And everyone would be like, yes, of course. Like, she would do zoom interview after zoom interview after zoom interview after espresso. She's too famous now. Like, she doesn't talk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Oscar]

So it's so interesting that this is, like, the only. The only glimpse we have into the breakup.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't wait for that era of me where I don't. Where I'm no longer talking. I would love to be mysterious. God, what is that? Maybe this gay song is my big hit and then I become mysterious after it.

[Oscar]

Or maybe after Euphoria season three, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm still thinking of that. I get so many fake ones on. My ex is like, Corey King casted in Euphoria. Like, I get so many of them now, and I'm like, what's real?

[Oscar]

Because they announced so many random people at once. Yeah. So now everyone. It became a running meme. Like, random X person is in. Before I see something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really wish they'd cast me. Are they still shooting by you?

[Oscar]

I haven't seen any filming signs. I'll have to investigate. I'm sure they must be, but Jacob Elordi isn't in town. He is overseas somewhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know where everyone is because I remember when we were trying to figure out our mystery guest. That was my surprise. Like, well, this person's in New York, right? I'm like, I love it. But I couldn't find all that. I was like, how the hell did you find that out? You were so good. You're like, no, they're here. Damn.

[Oscar]

So I know Rosalia got casted in Euphoria season three. Kind of a gag. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. Well, she is huge.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Famous.

[Oscar]

And I forgot she dated Hunter Schaefer, too, for a little bit. So I wonder how that's gonna be. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know she was by.

[Oscar]

I guess so. Yeah. She. Because she dated Hunter, I think, right after Hunter broke up with Dominic Fike Fikey. She.

[Trisha Paytas]

They dated. Is he from Mamma Mia? No, no, he is. I know what Dominic was in Mamma Mia. I don't know if this is the one, because that'd be wild.

[Oscar]

Did he have, like, a little face tattoo?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar]

I was gonna say, I can't imagine Dominic. Mikey.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think this. Okay. And then she dated Jamie Allen White, didn't she, Rosalia?

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, it's.

[Oscar]

But I think Dominic is back for you for season three. So that's like two X's. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. How do you deal with that?

[Oscar]

Yeah, that is quite a. I don't know, maybe she's still friends with all of them, but she talked. Hunter talked about Dominic on Call Her Daddy, and it seemed like it didn't end very well.

[Trisha Paytas]

What'd you say?

[Oscar]

I think if I'm remembering correctly, it was something about, like, she saw him, like, dming, like, other girls and stuff. So it's interesting to see how that works.

[Trisha Paytas]

If I'm in the same city as someone I did, I'm always just like, God, I hope I don't. Because that's, like, so awkward. Like, what if you see that person I know.

[Oscar]

Let alone, like, work on set with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I could never.

[Oscar]

That's crazy. Two of your exes. Oh, my God, I wish. I want to be on that set so bad just to see. Because there's already so much drama with, like, Sam Levinson and everyone. Let alone, like, this, like, love triangle now, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you should get casted.

[Oscar]

Would love. I'd be like an extra. But now I don't know, like, what.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love to be an extra.

[Oscar]

Honestly, I would eat that down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Less pressure, too. We don't always talk about that. Even Bridgerton. I was like, how do we get to be in the background? Like, that's so fun. That's why I recreated the music video. I was like, oh, we get to be in Bridgerton. And no one knew Bridgerton, which was so annoying. I was like, damn it.

[Oscar]

My favorite thing is watching, like, shows or big movies. And then especially, like, when I see him for, like, a second or third time, like, I always look at the background actors and see, like, if they're acting down or not. And that's. I'm like, yes, yes, yes. Like, they steal the show sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, see, a good background actor wouldn't steal the show. They. They blend into the background. The ones where they're like, you know, they're stealing it. You know, be casual. I feel like the ones that are doing too much. Although I would love to be that person.

[Oscar]

I was gonna say.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you would. I think now I would. But if you see me in the background, what if I've been in the background? Obviously, Modern Family. That wasn't really a background. That was kind of a featured role. A featured background. I'm trying to think, God, what have I been background on? I don't know. I guess I've always been featured. Like, the Jack one technically has background. But I was also featured on that one, so I've just always been a featured background. I don't know what to say. I would love to. I would love to.

[Oscar]

Oh, also a good segue too. I think that you do have hope in becoming a big screen actress because Maya Hawk did a podcast where she said producers are casting actors based on their social media followers. She talked about it as like a very dystopian thing about, like, how it's so sad that because she wanted to delete her Instagram, but she was told she has to keep it because the cast has to have like, X amount of followers in order to get funding for this specific unnamed movie. She was like, I hate Instagram. I want to delete it. But because they need X amount of followers and I want this movie to be made, I keep my Instagram up and everyone was like, oh, damn, that sucks. Like, it's so dystopian. But I'm like, Trisha, I know, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

This has been going on for a while and I'm like, how have I not been casted? Because Addison Rae started getting cat. And look, I'm not knocking it because I do think Asun Ray is a great actress. So I think, like, for people to be like, oh, they're doing it based on followers, but sometimes they're good, Sometimes they're good. Like, Addison Rae is good. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like the Nepo baby. Oh, I hate when people are casted because their parents are famous. But sometimes, like my Hawk, they're good. So it's like, that's just how the world works. I don't know what to say. Like, Nepo babies. Influencer people. Like, people will see a movie because Addison Raise. It wasn't she's all that or he's all that. Wasn't that, like, number one on Netflix? Because I don't. It was a terrible movie. But everyone's watching. I watch Ex Addison raising it, you know, like.

[Oscar]

Like, it's literally just like built in marketing. Like, yeah, if you look at a Sydney Sweeney, for example, I think a big reason she's probably casting, like, Madame Web is because she has so many Instagram followers and she was promoting the hell out of that movie. Like, she was posting all the behind the scenes. She was looking good in her costume and she kind of ate with that and the movie was out, but it was like, built in marketing. So it is, like, unfortunate because it's, you know, it can, like, undercut a film, I guess, if you're casting. If you have to cast based on followers other than talent. But realistically, it's like, well, if Zendaya is in a movie and she's promoting it on Instagram, more people are going to know about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then World of Wonder posted a preview clip of me on Snatch Game and they only showed me for like a second on the actual show, but they posted the clip like two days before. And it was just like me. It was just Acacia being like, oh, I'm doing this. They clipped it, it was all over the place. And I was like, oh, that's cool. They're using it as like promotion. And then when I watch the actual thing, I was like, oh, it was only like a minute it. But same kind of thing. They're probably just like, wow. People watch it because Trisha's on Snatch Game and then they give you like a minute of it, you know what I mean? Or my Broadway dream, you know what I mean? Like, obviously not based on talent, but they're like, well, people seem to be interested in her, so I love it. The power of the people is what I always say. I, you know, power the people, they get to decide. Can I tell you, before the power of the people, it was old creepy executives. Those are the ones that you're casting. Couch, Harvey Weinstein, all those stuff like that, that I was in that world. And it's like if you weren't pretty or skinny and they weren't like attracted to you as a person, like you're just not going to get casted. So I love this new era. Power of the people, to be honest. And, and it works like the influencer works. You know what I heard, speaking of non talented Broadway actors, Cameron Dallas. Is that his name?

[Oscar]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was casted in Mean Girls and when I was in New York. Yes. And I was asking them and I was like, that's so crazy because, like, he really was bad. You know what I mean? Like, he's just not a musical theater person. He doesn't like singing at all. Like horrible. Like horrible. I'm like, that's crazy because also he played Aaron Samuels, which is like a huge role in the musical. And I think he was opposite Renee Rapp, I'm pretty sure. Crazy to watch the clips of them now. But someone had told me that these producers, they didn't know, they're just like, oh, we need an influencer, whatever. And they thought he was Shawn Mendes, which is like, I think, how did it get that far before they realized it wasn't John Mendez? Like they signed contracts Surely, like, that's crazy. So they literally thought up until, like, first performance, it was Shawn Mendes, that it was being cast. That's crazy. And it was from a pretty reputable person that's, like, in that world. So I was like, that's why.

[Oscar]

And that kind of makes sense. Like, maybe they didn't like and think they were the same person, but you got to confuse, like, oh, he's the one that same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Oscar]

You know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. That's what I was kind of thinking, too, is like, oh, they're.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. Because they were in the same group. They're in the Magcon Boys. So he's just like, oh, that's the. That's the minor.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's really more sense than the.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Shawn Mendez's roots were. Was being a Vine Magcon boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny. So, yeah, they're probably like, oh, we want that one. That same. Yeah, they just got lost in the shuffle and came down. So I'll do it. Where's he at?

[Oscar]

That's a good question. Let me look it up. Because he's. I have not heard much about him.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was spamming my DMs. It was like, hey, do you want 12 million followers? I was like, okay, I'm random.

[Oscar]

Why?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I came from Cameron Dallas recently. Yeah. Can you see my phone? I'll see what it says. He's like. Because it was like, on the top followers. I mean, I'm sure it was like a bot or something. Oh, but it definitely came from his account. Sorry, babe. Thank you.

[Oscar]

Oh, he has this LinkedIn in his bio, on his Instagram bio. That's how you know it's serious saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like a bot or something running his account. Oh, yeah. He said, hey, are you monetized on Snap slash getting brand deals for it?

[Oscar]

Oh, he has a monetization business. Oh, do you think it's a fan fix? I think it is. I think he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, he looks so different.

[Oscar]

At least he's working. He's, you know, doing a business. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should tell him. No, I'm blocked.

[Oscar]

You should. You should see what he has to say.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was like my top most followed person that, like, messaged me. So I was like, okay.

[Oscar]

Fanfics has scaled to over 7 million users and has creators earning millions of dollars on the platform.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it's real. Yeah, he's number four. He's has 26 million. MTV sent a reel. Bella. Who's Bella?

[Oscar]

Bella thorne.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone was 24 million. Oh, yeah. Oh, it Was an invite to a party. Wow, I never saw that. That's so funny.

[Oscar]

Birthday party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I missed it. Damn. And then Cameron Dallas. Those are my top three requests.

[Oscar]

That's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, love that. But I don't think it's a bad thing. It's like, Charlie, like, you know what I mean? Like, there's the talent will rise. Like, you can cast someone that's bad. Like Cameron Dallas. And then people are just like, this was bad.

[Oscar]

And then Renee Rapp, breakout star. Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. He made her shine. You know what I mean? Like, damn, this person sucks. But this person's really good. So I don't think it's a bad thing to cast unfollowers. I mean, I think all red carpet people, like Zack saying, like, all those people now me, like, everyone. I got invited. I got invited again to the Oscars.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. And you're toy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it was with another brand. And I was just like, like, how? How? I can't go. I'll be in Salt Lake, but nowhere will I be. No, I'll be in Seattle. No, I'll be in Salt Lake. Yeah. Don't worry, guys. I'm not canceling. I'm staying. I thought about it for a minute. I'm like, could I just reschedule Salt Lake City? But no, I couldn't do that to them. But anyways, all the red carpet people now are influencers because it gets views.

[Oscar]

And I think it's annoying, too, because it's like, okay, people go to journalism school, and some people are like. Like, some influencers really are terrible at interviewing. So I get how that's annoying, too. But it's also like, I don't know. That's just kind of the media landscape is that, like, when you collaborate with people with bigger followings, you just get more eyes on whatever it is, for better or worse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but I feel like that, again, it's like connections have always been there. Like, it always. Like, who you knew in Hollywood is like, oh, do you have connections? Do you have this? And now it's kind of cool that it's like, directed influencers. Most of them are good. I can't think of, like. I mean, there's some. I guess there's some bad ones, but I don't know. There's a lot of bad journalists. Look at that AP person. They were, like, horrible. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

And too, like, with the acting thing, it doesn't necessarily mean influencers. I think it also just means, like, actors that have a large following you know, like Kiki Palmer or like Zendaya. You know, there's like, there are talented people that have, like, large social media following and same thing for them, like, you when you're producing and like, green lighting a movie, you kind of need a star in it that's going to do the press campaign. It's hard to have, like, a breakout star these days. Like, I kind of miss the days of having, like, an unknown, have a big, like, a Rachel Zegler with, like, west side Story, you know, they don't really have many of those moments anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so true. I guess John M. Chu said Wicked was supposed to be. That was like, already had big stars, but he's like, originally it was gonna be unknown breakout stars. I do love that idea of they should do that again. If they did, like, Hercules, which they're talking a lot about, I think they should do that.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think if you have a big ip, it does make you have more freedom to cast, like, unknowns or like, up and coming actors because the IP itself sells the ticket. But versus, like, a challenger is like, if you just said it was like a love triangle with tennis stars and it didn't have, you know, Zendaya, Mike Feist and Josh O'Connor, like, they are the ones that sold it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is crazy because Mike Feist and Josh O'Connor are not on social media, right?

[Oscar]

No, they're pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're the opposite. They're like, I hate interviews.

[Oscar]

I think they used to. I think. Didn't Mike used to be on Instagram or.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he did a long time ago when he had, like, a girlfriend. I remember following it, but I don't know if he does anymore.

[Oscar]

But I. Zendaya, I think they probably had the quota of followers and, like, that's it. Yeah, we're good with her.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then it doesn't work sometimes. Like, Aladdin, like, the guy who played. What's his name? Mina Musat, like, he was. He. He said he couldn't get cast in anything after that.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. And Aladdin made a billion dollars at the box office. So, so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he was so good. He looked just like Aladdin. He looks so good. I guess the girl who played Jasmine was like, in the Charlie's Angels, but you haven't heard.

[Oscar]

Yeah, Naomi Scott, she was Jasmine, but she didn't she break out. Yeah, she was in the new movie Smile 2 last year, which is like a horror movie, and that was like a breakout horror performance. She was really good in it. But yeah, even for her, like, you would expect that she had, like, a lot of work lined up. She got a couple things, but nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Will Smith, honestly.

[Oscar]

Honestly, I think he was probably miscasted Genie, but again, he is the actor that, like, is leading the press tour, you know? And also think of the context of what year was that? Like, 2019.

[Trisha Paytas]

This was before the slap.

[Oscar]

Yes. So he was very much like, you know, everyone loves him.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was like Ryan Reynolds before the.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Scandal.

[Oscar]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ryan Reynolds made a.

[Oscar]

At SNL 50, Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively made their first, I think, official red carpet appearance together. They've been paparazzi. Ryan has done a couple solo things.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's the first time together.

[Oscar]

Together.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was on that red carpet. Like, it was the. It has the best premiere. She's just, like, kind of live.

[Oscar]

I'm like, okay, I didn't address, but I'm like, it's weird. I. It's fierce on both ends. Like, it's fears. Justin Baldoni is just in Hawaii surfing. Like, lives up SNL50 shock is also.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, Scarlett Johansson, and Carlin Jost is like, you know, Kanjos has been on for, like, 220 episodes. So I'm like, I wouldn't want to go. I wouldn't want to reheat my ex's nachos. You know what I mean? Like, I guess, like, how. How would I put it? Like, if the vlog squad was hosting, like, the 20th anniversary. I'm not gonna show up with Moses. You know what I mean? Like. Like, here we are. I was part of the golden era. They're not even a part of it.

[Moses]

You're gonna go alone?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I wouldn't go, period. You know what I mean? Like. Like, Colin Jones is like, snl, right? Scarlett Johansson's, like, a part of it. She's the five Timers club. She has been on these all these episodes. Obviously, she. Obviously, everyone's like, Scarlet one. Like, Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, whatever. Because the whole thing was they met on Green Lantern when he was married to Scarlett Johansson. I mean, that there's, like, a connection there. So I was like, why are you even showing up?

[Moses]

I don't know this. It's not him. It's, you know, it's way up above. Like, Sony has a strong connection to snl and.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even though. Would you want to show up to that? I'm all for live your best life. Like, have a key, go out to Hugh Jackman's concert, whatever. Like, go on the premiere, whatever. But, like, SNL is a crazy one because also, like, I don't think of them as being SNL related.

[Moses]

They're just doing a lot of damage control as far as pr.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it doesn't help. All the comments were like, no, it was horrible.

[Moses]

Because the main problem for me was her allegations are very serious. Of essay allegations. He's there making a joke about the situation.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did he say? I don't know what the joke was. Was it just like, how are you? And he's like, great, would you. I mean, it wasn't really about it because people was like, what did he say about Justin Baldoni? But he didn't really say anything about the case. Right.

[Moses]

He was. The fact that he was making light of it. It's like they compare it to, like, politicians and other people that messed up and go on the show to see. Show people that they're. Oh, we're joking about it with you. You. We're part of the joke. We're part of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're saying it's too serious to do that?

[Moses]

No, it's way too serious for any jokes about the situation. If what she claims is true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know. Any thoughts?

[Oscar]

I think it's. I don't think it'll change anyone's opinions. I think if you're pro Blake, you'd be like, oh, it's good that they went out. And I think if you're pro Justin, it'd be like, boo. Tomato, tomato. Like, why are you making joke about this? I think it's lose, lose. I kind of like when they're more low key. I get why they would. It's. It's just so much so out there. You can't really show up and not kind of reference it, in my opinion, because it's just like the elephant in the room. It's kind of like you make the joke about yourself before someone else makes it, you know, So. I get that angle. I didn't think it was so damning, but I get why people are like, oh, that's in bad taste. But at this point, it's like, it's so. Even beyond the allegations. Like, there's. The case is so much bigger than that, too. Weirdly, it became such a big, like, media firestorm. So. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just if you. Whatever. However you feel about him is how you're gonna apply the. The feelings towards the little skit. I thought it was. I like the whole thing. The Q A thing with, like, everyone, though. I thought the whole thing was kind of funny. I think I'm in The minority people were really not fared, I think, to the whole SNL50 thing. But I thought the whole thing was funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

They've been like that with that SNL. Like, I feel like every season, SNL's not funny anymore. I feel like they're always like that. Did you watch the whole thing? It was like four hours. We were trying to watch last night.

[Oscar]

Oh, I just saw the clips on the. I went through the SNL's Twitter in a small. Watched every clip. I think it was pretty much almost everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. It was four hours worth of four hours.

[Oscar]

I didn't see the performances and stuff, though. I just saw the little sketch.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were watching it last night for like an hour and a half and was like, I think we should watch them on our family. It's very long. It was just so long. It was good. I saw the clips, too. It was good. But Ryan Reynolds didn't need to be there. Has he hosted? I don't know. I just.

[Oscar]

I'm sure he has a. I really.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can'T stand him anymore. I really can't.

[Oscar]

I know it is. The pendulum effect is crazy because I think about, like, I mean, from the entertainment perspective. I said this before, but, like, I think for Valentine's Day specifically, we're like, oh, who? What couples videos can we, like, you know, resurface? That'll just do well. And Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds were always like, the evergreen, like, anytime we needed, like, a hit, it'd be like, just do an old Blake Lively Ryan Reynolds video. Because they were so loved and this was, like, literally a year ago. So, like, the pendulum effect is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it should be noted that when Deadpool came out, I was like, I can't stand Ryan Reynolds. And this was before all of it. So I was always on the tip with him because I actually think he's more annoying than her. Like, I really do. Like, I don't know. She was annoying during the press were. But at least she wasn't, like, up there, like, keying or whatever, just trying to be part of it or whatever. I was just like, he was annoying. I was like, what the. He's just a lot. He's just a lot. I don't know what it is.

[Oscar]

Everyone. Yeah, I think those Mint Mobile commercials. Have you seen those? Oh, he has, like, a cell phone company and he, like, does the commercials and it's the same bit, but those commercials just run so often. Like they're on Hulu and stuff. Like, they just run all the time. I feel like that was also people like, okay, we get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But too much oversaturated.

[Oscar]

Yeah. The pendulum effect is fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

My favorite was, like, because I'm so nosy, I paused and I kept looking at everyone's reaction.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you do that on videos, too. Any pause. Oh, what's on there?

[Oscar]

Yes. What are they Googling because of you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I look at everything I post out because I'm like, someone's gonna zoom in somewhere and see something.

[Oscar]

I was trying so hard. Like, there weren't many celebs in, like, the shot when Ryan was speaking. But you can see Anya, Taylor, Joy. And she kept it very. Like, she didn't clap. Like, she just, like, neutral. I think she was probably, like, very aware I'm in the shot. Share. She was also very neutral. I feel like she probably has no idea what's going on. I don't know. She seems very much like, in her own world.

[Trisha Paytas]

When I'm 70, I do not want to know what's going on with any of these people.

[Oscar]

And then Jenna Ortega, Ryan Reynolds covered. So I couldn't see her reaction, but I was very much like, what are people saying? What are people looking like?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I would have done a face, like, into the. Like, Misha. Like, you know, at the Grammys, where she looked right into the camera. I would have done something. We're like, no, I would have. I would have. I would have done it. Especially Ryan Reynolds. I don't know. He has. He is one. I just. I'm like, oh, I can't. Why was he there? I don't know.

[Oscar]

I mean, why was anyone there?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like, no, he. Obviously, there was some cross between Scott Johansson and Blake Lively during Green Lantern. So, like, he actually hurt someone. You know what I mean? Like, actually, like, there was some going on. So I was just like, don't do that with your, like, exes. Like, this is her thing. SNL's her thing, you know? Anyone else? I don't care. Yeah, like Michael Jackson. Well, I guess not. He could be there, but somewhat. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Someone problematic I was trying to think of, but you know what I mean? Who's problematic? I'd rather see Colleen there than Ryan. Honestly, I would rather see a Miranda sing a sketch all day long.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And see Ryan Reynolds there. I don't know. It's just weird. I don't know.

[Oscar]

At least if it's short. I don't know. I didn't really mind it that much usually. I mean, I thought it was, like, a little cringey, but I didn't, like, have a huge emotional feeling about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you're gonna bring the girl that you met while you were married to your wife from that movie with to. No, no.

[Oscar]

I guess that makes sense. I forgot about the Scarlet Johansson.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would be. Absolutely not Overlap.

[Oscar]

And Kim Kardashian, like, had a crossover with Pete Davidson. It really was a room of exes. I guess there's just so many people that, like, that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, I guess it doesn't end quite the same, but. Yeah, kind of the same thing. I don't know if I would go. If I was like, my ex's thing is snl. I don't know if I'm going to.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that makes sense. Why would you want a couple sketches and everything, too? I think she did, like, two or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Three, and she's been in them all year. She's been in sketches, so it's kind of like their thing.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, even Pete Davidson. I don't know. I mean, it's Kim Kardashian. You can do whatever she wants. And there's an end. Like, crazy. But still, I don't know. I guess it's like, my ex. I'm not going to show up.

[Oscar]

I guess, like, if my ex was Bow and Yang, I don't think I would go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. I love Broadway, but if my ex is in a Broadway show, I'm not gonna show up to the show. Be like, I'm gonna go see the show even if I really want to see. That's weird. I don't know. Why would you want to even be in that same room? Be like, Unless you're friends, I guess. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Especially because Bowen. Yeah. I'm really trying to think of, like, me and that in that predicament. I'm like, yeah, Bowen is like. He kind of is synonymous with SNL right now. Like, this era of sn.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, for sure. Yeah.

[Moses]

But Kim is not gonna, you know, pass an opportunity to be part of something historical.

[Oscar]

That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. I don't know. She's done so many things.

[Moses]

She's not looking up at me. She's looking down at him. So she's gonna be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

You mean she was looking down at him? She's not, like, physically she was looking down or, like.

[Moses]

I'm saying, like, she would be here. She would not. She doesn't count him at all. Like, she doesn't care.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he is more SNL than Her. I'm like, oh, he should be there. Kim shouldn't.

[Moses]

Right? But she's there to be part of history she doesn't care about.

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of people weren't there. Bill Hader declined. They said people shout out people. I've been finding all my information through their Instagram stories, like, see the people who didn't attend. And Dan Aykroyd tweeted about it. But Bill Hader just did a decline and said, no, I don't want to be there. 50 years is crazy. So how old is Lorne Michaels? Like, that's crazy that he's still doing this show 50 years later, probably in his 80s. He's still, like, running the show. He, like, gives the notes, tells what sketches to cut. Like that. That's crazy.

[Moses]

Keeps you young.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never want to retire.

[Oscar]

My favorite sketch, I think, was Sabrina Carpenter and Pedro Pascal. But also, I think you're rubbing off on me because now I was like, I was jealous of Sabrina Carpenter, as if me and her are competing for Pedro Pascal. I was like. Because she was grinding on him. And I was like, not too much, Sabrina.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, can I just also tell you, Pedro? I was like, okay, I get it.

[Oscar]

Oh, you finally switched. I was kind of like, this is big. This is big.

[Trisha Paytas]

He got me with the comedy. He got. He looked good.

[Oscar]

Looks good. Yeah, he's a good sport.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you jealous?

[Oscar]

Charismatic. I was very jealous. And a little bit about Bunny, too, because they're all too close. Too close.

[Trisha Paytas]

For God, that trio. Bad bunny. Marcelo Hernandez.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sabrina. I love. And I'm like, where's Sabrina? Like, you know, I was looking. I was like, damn, this was. That was a good one. That was. That was the best sketch. I think that's, like, one of the best ever, honestly.

[Oscar]

They can kind of redo it over and over again because they. The more layers they add to the Domingo universe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

It keeps getting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because they read it so many sketches. And I was like, I don't know. They don't hit the same for me as, like, when I was a kid. But that one, I'm like, wait, this is actually, like, maybe one of the best sketches ever written. It's so good. It's so catchy. I love Sabrina in it. I love it. I know. I love those sketches. Never stop. Those. Those are.

[Moses]

But I guess they have opportunity now to get the Montoya into the Domingo, you know, play that out in his world.

[Oscar]

Who's Montoya from the sketch was that.

[Moses]

No, Montoya is real. Oh, no. I'm saying the Domingo.

[Oscar]

Pedro what was his name?

[Moses]

No, no, The Domingo world to take the Montoya situation.

[Oscar]

Oh, this is a callback to last week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the temptation Island. Well, who is Pedro Pascal in it? What's his name?

[Moses]

I don't know what Pedro's gonna be. I'm talking about the Montoya. We're talking about the original sketch.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought you were talking about Pedro Pascal. The sketch.

[Moses]

Domingo.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you think he. Do you think the guy from peppination island needs to be in the Domingo sketch?

[Moses]

Domingo needs to replay Montoya like he's now Montoya.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the guy who plays the drummer.

[Moses]

I'm trying to give them ideas for future.

[Trisha Paytas]

Marcelo Hernandez should recreate a 10 patient island style.

[Moses]

Yeah, I can just imagine him. I can imagine him so well doing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I see it.

[Oscar]

You could text Bo in that, say, hey, Moses has an idea for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I start pitching. I'm Harry Daniels. I just start pitching ideas. I see it. Okay. They're both kind of like short in stature and they kind of have the same body frame. He could do the action.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. That's funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see it. I love it.

[Oscar]

Did you see Emma Stone's popcorn dress? Because I feel like that is a you cosplay in the making.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I thought Emma Stone was like, the red dress. I didn't see a popcorn dress.

[Oscar]

Oh, she had that red dress and then it had the pockets on the side to fit a tub of popcorn on each side.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was there popcorn in it?

[Oscar]

Yeah, she was eating popcorn from her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dress from the front. Because remember, we saw it and you're like, that's a weird dress. And oh, it's crazy. I want to see it.

[Oscar]

I have to look it up for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love a popcorn dress. The shape was crazy, but I would love the popcorn.

[Oscar]

Look, see, she has.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my.

[Oscar]

That's like a trash cosplay if I've ever seen one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That's so cute. She should have done that on the show. Because I was looking at the dress. I'm like, what a weird dress. That's so cute. Who's her husband? He's cute.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that her husband? Is she married?

[Oscar]

Yeah, she is married.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's pretty handsome.

[Moses]

But you need two more pockets for the nachos and cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

Size side maybe like on the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just eating it out like here. I don't know. Betty Blanco turned me off from queso. I think I was like. After I saw that, I was like, it made me a little nauseous. If I'm Gonna. If I'm being real. Moses hates the queso. I use the tostito one, and he hates that. He's like, this is, like, not real cheese. I'm like, it's so good, though. Malboo likes. I should dip her nacho in there.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good, that one. I never want to eat again, though. I was like, that was so crazy. Benny Blanco was wild. I wonder how much of it's real and how much of it's just for performance.

[Oscar]

That's a good qu. That's what you have to interview him and get to the bottom of it, because I think maybe with you, you'll get the realness.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love to.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because he does have just, like, an exaggerated kind of caricature. And even in the videos that he did with Selena, he was so, like, overpowering. It was like, what actress would play Selena in a movie? And he was like, I don't know any actors.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? You literally work in this.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It was so, like, over the top. And Selena's, like, so reserved. I think that's just her personality, though. I think people were like, oh, she's miserable. She's over him. But I think she's just very, like, reserved in general. But he was like, I don't know who's an actor? Meryl Streep. And it's like, wait, what? Like what?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess Evelyn Goria played her in Only Murders. I guess they said they aged her up. Or she said in the show, oh, they aged you up because they wouldn't believe, like, old people with the young girl, I was like, I guess that makes sense. Gomez.

[Oscar]

They would have that. I think you would have to get, like, an unknown for or something. Don't you think? Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of like the Britney movie. I also. I heard that she wanted to play Britney Spears.

[Oscar]

I think I read that Britney had Selena on, like, the short list.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They are, like, friendly once some. Oh, I shamed her wedding. I think if she wants someone to play her, she should.

[Oscar]

I don't. I think if Selena Gomez played Britney Spears, it would take you two out of it. You know what I mean? Like, you would. I feel like I'd be conscious of the fact that this is Selena Gomez playing Britney Spears.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. She convinces me. And Only Murders. I believe that she's in that building. I like her in that show. I could see her as Britney. I would love to play Britney. Just throwing. Was it Blake Lively who wanted to play Britney?

[Oscar]

Was it? I know she wore Britney Spears's dress.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she was, like, trying to campaign for it.

[Oscar]

Wild. If so. Because I think you have to. I don't know. More power to you, girl. I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. That's like, I would like to play Britney Spears too. That was crazy. I was like, yeah, that'd be wild. They should get it unknown. If it's not Addison, if it's not me, I can't wait when they announce.

[Moses]

That I can be Sam.

[Trisha Paytas]

There you go. We would be perfect casting for that. He finally got some air time on the Traitors. This.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. I finally was speaking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Rare.

[Moses]

He was on your favorite podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Nick Viles get all the people. Why do people go on that podcast?

[Oscar]

I don't know. What is up with the vial files?

[Moses]

There must be some agency or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Someone connects some plant. Because he gets like, everybody.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're not good. Like, they're just not good at interviewing. But okay.

[Oscar]

I did learn from the Britney Haynes Patreon. Like, she. Because she's a big Britney Spears Stan. And she said that she would always. She would talk to Sam and she would, like, work in Britney references to like, it's in the conversation to see if he broke and, like, would finally, like, acknowledge that he's Britney's ex. And she was like, he was complaining about something and she'd be like, it's almost as if you're stronger than yesterday, right, Sam? And she said that he would not break at all. Like, he. Maybe he didn't know it's either he didn't know where the NDA is fierce. He just won't say anything because he.

[Trisha Paytas]

Talked about her on the Nick Vile podcast. Yeah, he's like, oh, Britney Spears is like, she is the most famous pop star in the world. Like everyone. He tried to say, like, he wasn't a fan. Like, oh, you know, I didn't know her music or whatever. Which maybe is the case. Maybe you didn't know the lyrics or something. But yeah, he definitely talked about her as like, if she's like the. He's like, she's the most famous. Like, everybody wants to be here. Like Taylor Swift, like all that stuff he was saying. So that's what I always thought too. I thought the same thing. I thought he wasn't allowed to talk about her. Maybe not on tv. I don't know. We talked about the bio files. Why would you be able to talk about there?

[Oscar]

Because they said on the Traders, like, they would behind the scenes. Like too. He would just not talk about Britney Spears and Then they said, too, that he was very cranky because he couldn't, like, work out or eat as well as he would want. And he would go, like, anytime they would eat, like, for dinner and stuff, he would, like, analyze their meals. You would. Thank God you were not on this season with Sam, because that would have been a feud.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what would he analyze?

[Oscar]

He'd be like, you shouldn't be eating this. Like, this is not enough. Like, protein. Too many carbs.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would fight. I would fight him all the time. Oh, my. I'd actually fight him for Britney and for that. Honestly, that's crazy. And Bob Harper did that to Toxian too. He's like, don't eat that. Like, I was like, what the hell is with men telling other people not to eat and why not to eat? I mean, Sam looks good, but.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think only if it's like, if you ask, like, if I went up to Sam and be like, hey, is this a good. Yeah. Should I eat this if I'm trying to lose weight? But if, like, I'm just like, you know, at the buffet, like, putting stuff on my cheese. And he comes up, he's like, you shouldn't be eating that.

[Trisha Paytas]

He said to Brittany, yeah, Haynes, Heinz. What did she. I want to know what it. What was the specifics?

[Oscar]

I forget.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was she eating?

[Oscar]

It was. She didn't say, like, what exactly it was. She said there's this one specific snack that she liked. Like this one, like, rice cake cookie situation. And he. And then he did say these were actually not. He, like, took the nutritional info and was like, this isn't bad for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, Sam, that's so annoying. I hate it in many ways, but that really makes me also.

[Moses]

It's not like you're in a grocery store and you have options. Like, the craft is what they give you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's actually so true. Especially in, like. Well, in England anyways, like, the celebrity Big Brother house. Like, they literally, like, yeah, the stuff they gave you was, like, so limited. I could only eat, like, a bag of chips because I don't like anything else. I was like, I don't know what anything else is. I'm just gonna eat this bag of chips. So probably over in Scotland, I'm sure the food is worse. I don't know, but I'm sure it's not any better. It never looks good. Whatever they're eating never looks good. I know they have, like, the buffet style, but this doesn't look that good. Probably skinny on that show, too, because I wouldn't eat anything. Sorry. I know we're not talking about. I'm in my skinny girl era. What can I say? Damn. And I was kind of starting to like Sam a little bit on this because I was like, well, he's kind of smart because he said something and I was like.

[Oscar]

About like trying to see if the who was a traitor by who saw Alan in the church. Yes. It was a smart idea. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

How did they not get Carolyn out from that? Because she was like, unless they edit it to look that way.

[Oscar]

But I got all the behind the scenes traders. Tea. Yeah. They. So Carolyn. They try to catch Carolyn by saying, look, what was Alan wearing in the scene? Because only the traitors would not have seen Alan. But they said that it looked worse in editing. But people just kept interrupting her. Like Tam. Like Tom Sandoval talking over her. And like everyone would just keep piping up so she would start to talk and then someone would interrupt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tom was so funny because he's just like. I mean, he had a hat on. It was. Yes, I fear I like Tom Sandoval.

[Oscar]

I know it's working on me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank God everyone on Twitter was like, no, trash.

[Moses]

But you can clarify. You like him on the show?

[Oscar]

On the show, yeah.

[Moses]

As a. Like, like the character. Because he's outrageous.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's so bad as a person. Him talking to the little horse. But I think he just like is.

[Oscar]

That person kind of in his own world. He's very spacey. But I also am not a Vanderpump rules girly. So I don't have the full lore. I know the gist. Like, I know scandal. He cheated on his. On Ariana with another. With a cast. Me. And it went on for a long time. Okay, so that whole thing obviously sounds horrific.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I be real? Honestly? Horrific? Of course. But I really thought he, like. And I'm not even being funny. I thought he like literally murdered someone on the show because everyone was like canceling it. Yeah. I thought like. Or like hospitalize someone or something. Like, that's what I thought. And I was like, damn. Like, this guy's a piece of. I thought. I don't know. I thought he like, like his girlfriend went missing or something and nothing. His girlfriend swear. Because everyone all of a sudden was like, lifting Ariana. Like, you're so brave. You're this. I'm like, well, something must have happened. Like, did he seriously. I really thought something like he killed somebody or something. So I was like, crazy. And then I was like, wow, I can't believe he's on this show. Like, he, like, killed somebody. That's so crazy. And then when I dug deeper, because I was like, before I tweet this, let me see if he did anything. If he actually kill. I don't want to be like, I love this person. And then I saw he cheated on it, which is like, yeah, I mean, you for sure, but also like, damn. They really. They really wanted him gone. They were trying to put him in prison last year. I was like, damn, that's so wild. But anyways, hate him still, obviously. But I thought Ariana was like, I don't know. I thought, like, something cheating is awful. But I thought something really, really bad happened to her. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

Like, something very maybe like, save or something. Yeah, it did seem darker for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Because like, when Britney Spears is cheated on, you know, or like, I'm trying to think iceberg Spears, I guess technically. I don't know. I don't know what happened there, but trying to think of other women who've been cheated on, they don't get, like, raised. I love that they did, honestly. She became, like a star, and I love that for her. But, like, you never see that with people. Usually when people get cheated on, they're always just like, like, who's. I'm trying to think. I feel like.

[Oscar]

I guess, like, didn't Kristen Stewart cheat on Robert Pattinson with, like, the director back in the day? This was like, what? Yeah, she was with Robert Pattinson and she cheated on him with the older, like, director. And it was, I guess. Right. It wasn't like, death to Kristen Stewart.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Right. God, I'm trying to think they're like, there was one recently, like, big celebrity that cheated. I don't know. Maybe I'm just talking on my ass, but he's funny on the show. His singing one. I know everyone was clipping the singing as like, oh, my God, this is so cringy. But, I mean, he won it for everybody. He was the one giving the tunes. I called it. I was so good. I knew every single one from the beginning. I wish I was playing it live with everyone because I knew it right away. I was so good at it. I was like, damn, I do love that show. It really is so good. Your. Your girls are coming back. Pavardi and.

[Oscar]

And Kate. Yeah, she was on season one and two. She was the girl they brought back, like, halfway through last season.

[Moses]

What do you mean they're coming back?

[Trisha Paytas]

They're coming back.

[Oscar]

They're making a cameo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they have their outfits Are so, like, do you think they have costume wears for them?

[Oscar]

They do for certain scenes and then for other scenes. Okay. Me with all this shout out, Brittany Haynes. But honestly, it's pretty good. They bring their own clothes for the most part, and then they style them. But then for a specific. Like the more grand avant garde things, like in the church or there was a wedding. Yeah. Then they have, like, outfits. They have outfits, Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to know how you're watching the Patreon. Are you just, like, on your bed? Are you eating a snack? Are you in your car? On your phone? How do you watch your Patreon?

[Oscar]

I consume all media as a girl on the go. Like, I'll just be doing anything. That's why my screen time on my phone is like 15 hours or whatever. It's absurd. Just because I always have a little video playing at all times of the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where is it at? What are you doing?

[Oscar]

It honestly depends on the situation. Like, I walk. Like, I could be walking around with it. I can have it on, but have my AirPods in, like, outside. Yeah. Oh, my God, the other day.

[Trisha Paytas]

What if someone's coming behind you? The killer.

[Oscar]

In the middle of the day?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what the killer will strike. You have your ear pods in when you're walking. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

I think it's a very normal thing to walk around. Listen, I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spoken like a man.

[Oscar]

Because, true, that is male privilege. Actually, you're right about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm on alert all the time. Like, what the. Get those earphones out. Okay. I'm worried about you, but okay. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

But, yeah, I always have a little video playing. So it's either a Patreon or it's someone streaming lately. It was Love is Blind. I was watching Love is Blind in the background of just, like, all the activities this new season that just came out. Oh, it came out on Valentine's Day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Put it on the list. We have to watch out in White Lotus. We haven't watched it yet.

[Oscar]

Oh, you didn't watch White Lotus either?

[Trisha Paytas]

You watched last night?

[Oscar]

Yeah, it was a good episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should watch that instead of snl. We were watching snl. I was like, damn it, it's good.

[Oscar]

Well, yeah, White Lotus is a really good first.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does someone die already?

[Oscar]

So far, it's actually. Yes, yes, yes. There is an ambiguous opening scene, no spoilers. I mean, is it literally in the first, like, 30 seconds? But there's an ambiguous scene. Impending violence, impending death. But we don't really know anything yet, as always.

[Trisha Paytas]

But White Lotus might be my favorite show. I love that shot. Damn it.

[Oscar]

Shout out. Lisa from Blackpink is in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

She good?

[Oscar]

She's really good. And she. I mean, she plays like it's a small role. I thought it was gonna be just a cameo originally when they saw she was cast because she's such a big star, but she's actually like a real character.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she working in the White Lotus?

[Oscar]

Yeah, the.

[Trisha Paytas]

The. The employees at the White Lotus are always the best. Like Murray Bartlett in season one, the Maui. Like, he was the best. The Italian girl in season two manager. Like, the employees are always in. The employee from Maui, the masseuse in this one.

[Oscar]

Yes. She's.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's, like, on vacation.

[Oscar]

She's training at the Thai resort so she can go back to Maui and bring that training. Although it is like, at what point are you, like, let me not stay at the White Lotus? Because there is, like, a death here every year.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like Disneyland. They probably just don't report it. Like, people are dying all the time, and they're just like. Well, they move them out. Wasn't on Disneyland, like, you know what I mean? Because you never hear about Disneyland dads, but, you know, people are dying all the time there.

[Oscar]

Are they. You think? I'm sure they have to, like, heart attacks or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it's sad, but people die everywhere. You know what I mean? And I feel like Disneyland covers it up. I'm sure White Lotus tries to. Or four. Any four seasons, for that matter.

[Moses]

Just statistically, like, there's a certain size of a city, so even, like Burning man, for example, you have 50,000 people. You know, one or two people will die in that week. Statistically.

[Oscar]

I never think about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So it just happens. When you have a certain amount of people, you will have that. So Disneyland for sure?

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. Yeah. There's just so many people there, and it's like. And we know firsthand, we don't know someone that died there, but we know someone who, like, fainted. And they, like. What they do is they surround. We weren't there, but they're telling us. But someone close to us, they, like, surround that person and cover them so no one can see what's happening. Yeah. And then they, like, literally, like, shuffle them off somewhere to, like, not be seen.

[Oscar]

Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's, like, wild.

[Moses]

You want to take the magic out.

[Trisha Paytas]

They got a free meal, they said. That's what they told us.

[Oscar]

They're like.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like. The first time I Was like a story. Was like, yeah, they got like, hamburgers and they told us what else we wanted.

[Moses]

If we need a water shop, naked and faint, they'll feed you, they'll dress you. Oh, people are like, they're not dressed, you know, up to code. They give them a shirt or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. Girls on TikTok will say that. They're like, oh, if you dress inappropriately, they'll give you a free T shirt.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's kind of a crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was rehearsing yesterday next to Cat's Eye again. What?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Are you serious?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, actually, more than that. I think if you look at Jeremy's story, Shawn Mendes was next door. Sabrina Carpenter. Did you see that in the story?

[Oscar]

They were actually there. I didn't have the context, so I didn't know what he was saying, but oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Rehearsing. They were impressed. Between us, we heard Sabrina Carpenter's music and then we saw Shawn Mendes's like, kits. But we didn't see.

[Oscar]

Did you see Cat's Eye again or. No?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. I was gonna pop in, but I was like, maybe I'm not that close with them. Like, I was gonna be like, hey, Cuz they told me what stage they were in and I was gonna be like, hey. But I was like, let me not.

[Oscar]

Be that close at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wanted to go, Sabrina's right next to her. Well, you don't have to say the numbers. But anyways, we were right next to each other and I was like, what if I just accidentally go in there if it's my rehearsal?

[Oscar]

I'm sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, I thought this was mine.

[Moses]

Let's pretend to deliver too. Espresso trophy.

[Oscar]

You tackle and, like, get this cycle out of here.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know I probably would never be allowed back. It's a cool rehearsal space because that's where, like, everyone rehearses. So I was, like, really excited.

[Oscar]

I can't believe Cat's Eye was there again. Oh, my God. You know what's so funny? The last time we talked about them and we had to, like, take down the episode and re upload it to. For the. For the brand. Remember the brand deal thing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought it was a Cat's Eye.

[Oscar]

Oh, no, no. But everyone thought it was for Cat's Eye. People like, oh, Trisha said too much. Like, Cat's Eye reached out to her because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did I say too much? What did I say?

[Oscar]

I think you. You just said that they. They were doing their hair. Yeah.

[Moses]

They didn't want to do a reveal.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I did see Something on Twitter, like, Trisha reveals their new hair. I mean, is that big? Is that a big.

[Oscar]

I guess it was a big thing. Yeah. Because I guess it's been speculated, but no one confirmed. But then they were making jokes about it like Lara, she changed her icon, her avatar, and like one of her social media platforms. So her Photoshop with a mohawk on and was like, well, Trisha said, we have new hair here.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so sorry. I didn't know that. I didn't know. I just could have posted a picture.

[Oscar]

I think they would have told you because you asked if you could talk about it. So I think they would have said.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was a couple things they told me not to say, so. So.

[Oscar]

And you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I said thank you for telling me that because I probably would have said something. I appreciated that. It was when I came back out of my. She's like, oh, real quick. Can you just not mention that good thing you told me? Because I probably would have said the whole conversation. I do know some cat's eye secrets, but we'll keep them at that.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God, I love those girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know I should have. They've been rehearsing there like every day.

[Oscar]

Me going with you next time. Yeah, I will. Yeah. And just wait outside.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a cool spot. Like, usually no one's there when I'm there, but it's pretty cool spot. We got the big stage, so we were like next to all the big. The big ones. It's pretty cool. I have to watch my Lotus. I'm so excited for that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it was really good. I hate. I was gonna say, I hate that it was only one episode. Usually I like when they do like one, like two or three episodes for the new season, but honestly, I'm back into like a weekly thing because Love is Blind with the six episodes at once, I was like, I was kind of overwhelmed.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love Love is Blind, but we never even did the last season. I should watch this one. I like it. It's just hard to do because it's not a show we can watch with the kids. So it's like we have to do it in like the one hour frame. We haven't. We're still trying to finish Jane the Virgin.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. So, yeah. And it's. It's a show for me that I just have on in the background and I don't know. I usually am like, this is so annoying. So cringe. I usually. I go back and forth. I'm like, this is so cringy. Like, who would do this. And then I get so invested. I was like, that is so beautiful. Thank you for opening up about how. Yeah, this is one she opens up about. Her father is like a. Was like, a drug addict, and her mother was a drug addict. And I was like, madison, thank you so much for sharing your story. And then I'm like, then it cuts to someone else being annoying. I was like, this is so cringy. It's a really emotional roller coaster this season.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have to watch it. I do miss it.

[Oscar]

It's kind. There's some teeth. It ends on a big, like, cliffhanger.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the cliffhanger?

[Oscar]

A spoiler alert, actually. They kind of been doing this in the promo, so it's kind of out there. But the big cliffhanger is this one couple gets engaged. But then he had followed her on Instagram before the show and, like, knew. So, like, he knew her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, before they even filmed.

[Oscar]

Yes. And then unfollowed her once filming before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't they know each other a lot? I always feel like it's like, married at first sight. They're always like, oh, we dated.

[Moses]

Yeah, a couple of times that people knew each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, you have to. In the same city.

[Oscar]

But it was very much like, I think, stalker. It kind of gave stalker vibes. But it's a cliffhanger, so we don't know for sure. But it came like, that's wild. Because then he would. He was, like, referencing specific things that she had, like, on her Instagram by. It was like, faith and family. And then he kept talking about faith and family. And then she has, like, one of her highlights on Instagram was about Christmas. And he was like. He just went on and on and on about Christmas, and it was like, she's like, oh, I love Christmas. He was like, what? You love Christmas. I love Christmas. It's my favorite holiday. I'm all about Christmas. And it was. And then it's like, oh, I like Taco Bell.

[Moses]

What?

[Oscar]

I love Taco Bell. It was, like, crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. Stalker.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it was very uncomfy. But this next drop is on the 21st, so it's this week. I'm. I'm like, really? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Usually.

[Oscar]

I'm usually late to all the shows, like the Love. Love is Blind. Love Island. I feel like I'm so. I usually catch on when no one cares anymore the same way. But this time I'm like, I'm trying to be on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

We used to be on it. We used to watch, like, mirrored at first sight. Love is Blind. We would watch all those, but I'm interested.

[Oscar]

You have to watch it and let me know what you think because this doesn't sound like me, but the girls were kind of annoying me in this. I was more pro guy. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. We're becoming the Patriarchy podcast right now. We love Tom Sandoval, Sama Scari and.

[Oscar]

Well, not me. You love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love them on Traders, Tam.

[Oscar]

Actually, no, you're right. He. Tom was charming. Traders and the guys on Love is Blind were kind of. I don't know. They were. They come across to me better than the girls. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy because they never do. They always come across the worst.

[Oscar]

Terrible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

There's one guy that I don't like, but the rest of them were pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sweet to watch it.

[Oscar]

And the girls were kind of more mean to them, like more dramatic and stuff really.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes they are Love is Blind, though. Sometimes they are kind of mean to the guys.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So I guess we'll see. Do let me know in the comments if you've seen it, if I'm out of pocket, if I'm becoming problematic. The Massage Noir.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean?

[Oscar]

Misogyny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Massage Noir. Did you make it up? I like the name.

[Oscar]

I read it somewhere. Yeah, yeah. You know, massage.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. Massage Noir. Well, you know we can't hate all men, right?

[Oscar]

No, we gotta love some. Yeah, obviously.

[Trisha Paytas]

He seems like an angel. Just kidding. No, people did come for me on Twitter, like now. How dare you. I was like, oh, my God. People really, really don't like him. And is it just for cheating or is he like a worst person that we don't know about? He must have been doing some other things.

[Oscar]

He must have been, like, devious and dubious throughout the whole house.

[Moses]

Was just bad, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what was it like? Did he have a bad reaction?

[Moses]

Like gaslighting, like the whole thing? And you can see that he's kind of like, into himself, kind of dumb, to be honest.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would just think he wouldn't know what's going on. He probably didn't.

[Moses]

Well, I. I don't know if he is actually, like, coming there after rehab or not or whatever that people think.

[Trisha Paytas]

He'S like, coming off speculation, which is not really good to do. But because he's eating so much and he was, like, shaking. He was like, very fidget at the beginning.

[Moses]

So he seems sweaty to me. To me, like, I can't even judge him because I don't think I'm seeing the actual person here.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think now he's detox. I Think he. He did the shakes. He did. He started eating, and now he's like himself. Maybe this is his real self. Maybe this is what was missing the whole time. Maybe this is what Ariana fell in love with. Maybe there's some problems that happened. I'm sure he would admit to it. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know either.

[Oscar]

I know Carolyn is, like, good friends with him, but she also doesn't. She doesn't watch Vanderpump Rules. I feel like maybe if we saw Vanderpump Rules, we might feel differently if we were invested in the whole journey.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's sober. She had her own experience with being a the Attic, so maybe there's some connection there. I don't know. That's me speculating. That's. That's the Internet speculating. First of all, I wasn't speculating. I wouldn't. I was like, whatever. But makes sense, actually. Do we have him on the podcast or. No. Too problematic, maybe.

[Oscar]

Maybe it's problematic. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That seems like the one he'd go on. I'm sure he already has.

[Oscar]

I think it was probably in the can already.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loves Ryan Reynolds. I know that he, like, is hardcore dedicated to him.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loves Ryan Reynolds. Crazy. Yeah. Justin Baldoni on the podcast. Hates Justin Baldoni. I was like, damn, what happened there?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. God, I do love Traders. It's so good. I like Dylan Efron. I want him to come on the podcast. I think he's so cool, too.

[Oscar]

I do really like Dylan Efron. He's very charming.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's charming.

[Oscar]

But Gabby. Wendy is definitely my number one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Gabby for sure. Coming on for sure. She's. She's the first I need on this podcast. Has. We've talked. I love her. She's great. She's number one. I like seeing all the press she's doing, too, with, like, her girlfriend.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She just looks good. I love Caroline, though, too. I want her so much. She's so. She's so out there, and I love it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she's a character. She has the podcast, too. I kind of. I don't know why I'm in, like, the Traders algorithm because I keep getting people's, like, podcasts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she has her own podcast.

[Oscar]

She, like, react to Traders. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Put me in. I want to go on so bad. How. You know what I mean? It's like, how. How am I not like Ivar? That's crazy. How is he odd and not me? That's so wild to me.

[Oscar]

Like, what is the point of Casting it like no one cares. I didn't get any press. That Ivor.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. No one on the show knows him cares about. Like, I know offense, but it's like he's obviously some British royalty person that no one knows over here. It's just such a. I think they're.

[Moses]

Just obligated by contract to have. Have a royal British. Yeah, that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because like last time there was like a British royal connection. What do they think that is? Maybe. Maybe. Right.

[Moses]

I think it's part of being. Maybe the origin of the show comes from there.

[Oscar]

Well, you did birth Queen Elizabeth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Put me on.

[Moses]

I had a royal brother uk. So you have. You have both the reality TV show uk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I am a game player. I'm also a big brother.

[Oscar]

The gamers.

[Trisha Paytas]

The gamers.

[Oscar]

You know, I'm a gamer a lot. Who's your big brother here?

[Trisha Paytas]

Me.

[Moses]

He streamed on Twitch once.

[Trisha Paytas]

So true. Not to say like Sam Asghari has never been in any reality show. But if they're going by reality show people, I mean I have been in who Wants to be a Superhero and Big Brother. So what? That's crazy. That's actually wild. CAA can get me anywhere except for the traitors. They give me all these opportunities. Except the traders.

[Oscar]

You see someone from Escape the night before you. That'd be so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just scenes on there. I would die.

[Oscar]

I could kind of see. I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would never. I don't think I'd ever recover. I think that would be the biggest damn. I would never be there. It's only 10 days. I could do it. The physical activities. I don't know if I could do it, but I continue to do it.

[Oscar]

No, like the housewives don't really do the physical stuff either. They're kind of just there and they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Made it pretty far last year. There was like.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Poor women. Although they did have to zip line at the end. I just think like one of you couldn't do that. Like I probably like physically couldn't do that. Like, do I just get stuck up in the mountain because they're like ziplining in the boat.

[Oscar]

Zip line?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think so.

[Oscar]

I think you could.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not to be about weight again, but I think it has a weight limit.

[Oscar]

There we go.

[Trisha Paytas]

There is. What do you want an elevator?

[Oscar]

Like you're £500, you're 250.

[Moses]

The thing is strong enough. It's more a question of you holding yourself up.

[Oscar]

That's more well that I'm more concerned about.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying too. I have no upper body strength. So all of that combined sometimes even those elevators at the hotel I stayed in New York was a really old elevator. Usually it's like a 3, 000 pound limit. This said like 300 pound limit.

[Oscar]

No, it did not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, maybe it's a 3, 000, but still, I was like, there was so many people on there, and I was literally calculating all of us. I'm like, we're all kind of big. We're all kind of fat in here. I'm 250. So multiply that. There was like six people. What is that? That's almost 3, 000, right? 250. 500 is two people. Okay. 1500 pounds was in there. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

So you still could have fit six more people in there, I guess. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what would you do? What happens? Does it just go down? Does it just clunk? You know? And again, there's nothing wrong with being bigger, obviously, but you do have to think about, like, will this chair hold me? I mean, again, it's just like stuff you think about because, I mean, I just broke in tears.

[Oscar]

And that's the elevator. You probably couldn't even like, fit that many people. Like, you know, I think it just. You wouldn't be able to physically be in the elevator if it's that many people. Like 3,000 pounds of people, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

We physically couldn't be in that elevator. That's why I was scared. We all were, like, just so squished together. No, you're right. Not one more person could have fit.

[Oscar]

Yeah, see, so you, you wouldn't have reached that point.

[Trisha Paytas]

It felt like those games in school where it's like, how many gumballs are in here? I was like, trying to think of all the pounds in there. I was like, how many pounds are in this elevator? And people way bigger. Like, I'm too 40. Like, some people like, oh, you're not too 40s. I'm like, wow, she looks 300. But like. But you don't know. I don't know if people would guess. I'm 240. So it's like, you don't know. Sorry. There's nothing wrong with talking about weight, I don't think. As long as it's not derogatory.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

To say you're a big person isn't like, degrading.

[Moses]

They should have the scale and the elevator.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy wild. That's way you.

[Oscar]

Before you step in. That's. Oh, my gosh.

[Moses]

Steps in and you see the numbers go up and do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Triggered spoken. But which is good with Moses, because, like, again, I know I always say this, but, like, he. Maybe now, you know. But, like, he grew up with, like, the metric system. Metric system. So, like, you didn't know, like, pounds, really. You know what I mean? So when I was, like, 200 and he was 170, he, like, didn't know if that was. Is that big? Is that. I'm like, no, it's so skinny. So I feel like. Even now, I feel like, you don't know. I mean, you know, But I'll be like, oh, do you know how many pounds? And you, like, don't. You know? Which I get if you grew up that way. But it's kind of nice. But I'm 240. To him. It could be like, I'm so skinny. It's like, is that big? I don't know, which is nice.

[Oscar]

Isn't this number smaller in the metrics? Like, it would be. The number would be smaller to make, like, 240 anyway.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what are you. What's your metric weight?

[Moses]

I would probably, like, I don't know, 80.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that crazy?

[Oscar]

I don't know what I am.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kilos is crazy. That's so scary.

[Moses]

It's roughly close to half.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, no. You're like 190.

[Moses]

So I'll be. I don't know when I'll be close to 100 kilos.

[Oscar]

You're 113 kilos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that a lot? That's a lot.

[Oscar]

All of a sudden.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know the metrics of stuff. That was crazy. That reaction was so real. Hurt a little bit. Not gonna lie. That was wild. And then Moses speechless. Okay, period.

[Oscar]

113, you know, just don't specify. That's a lack.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. What are you. Do you care to say.

[Oscar]

Let me see. 90.

[Trisha Paytas]

90'S skinny. Damn, I need to be 90 kilos.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. If I was single, I'd put that, like my grinder. What's your height? What's your weight? 90.

[Moses]

Just say European.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was a lot. No. McDonald's french fries. Yeah, I was just about to order some, and I'm like, damn, my eras. My eras are just short. We rehearsed yesterday, and Cedric always gives me, like, little notes to say to, like, introduce a song. We're trying to figure out, like, how to introduce the fat era. And it starts with fat chicks. He's like, just say something like, where all my fatties at? He's, like, so skinny. I was like, I don't know if I should say something.

[Moses]

By the way, he's French.

[Trisha Paytas]

Baddies. This one's for you. That's crazy. But I would probably get some applause. I was like, I don't know if that's. That's the move, but. But maybe.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where did we get there? How do we get there? That's crazy.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, you got to say, because you know when it's like, P, H, A T and then it says, like, what each letter stands for? So you can say something like that. Pretty hot and tempting is that's what one says. This other one says, praise, honor, and Thanksgiving. So I guess that's what fat means. People just make it up like, P.

[Trisha Paytas]

H, A, T. That's not a real, real, real thing.

[Oscar]

The only thing I remember is, like, baby fat. Remember baby fat?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. But it's not really.

[Oscar]

But that's like the Urban dictionary. Let's see. What. What is fat?

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember even, like, a movie. They're like, no, you're fat. Like P, H, A T. And I was like, that's not a word, is it? Maybe I should change the spelling of my song. I didn't know that was, like, a real thing. Yeah, okay.

[Oscar]

And that was more, like, complimentary, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn, girl, you're fat. Phat.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, again, I don't think there's anything wrong with being fat, to be honest.

[Oscar]

Same. Reclaim it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. First of all, you're not fat. I hate when non fatties be like, yeah, we're fat. I was like, first of all, you're not. You're not fat.

[Oscar]

Are you talking to me?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

You are talking to the people.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. There may be some baddies out there, I'm sure. Shout out your weight if you want. And say your height, too, because I'm 5'three240. It makes a difference. Difference. Let's see who has me beat in the bmi.

[Oscar]

Oh, my. That was tricky. And Darian did BMI, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was yours?

[Oscar]

I didn't do it. Darian went to get some, I don't know, vitamins or something. He said they were doing free BMI test. And he got his. He said, I. He actually. I have the whole report, actually, in my backpack because I thought it was so shocking. He's like, do you want to bring your report to Hot Topics? I said, yes, good idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you have yours?

[Oscar]

Not mine, his.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, got it.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's his Percent. What's. I don't even know. What's bmi?

[Oscar]

I don't even know body mass index. I don't even. The. The. His percentage of fat was 8 pounds. I mean, not 8 pounds, 8%, which I. Sounds pretty low to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think like 2.5 is like bodybuilder, it's 8.

[Oscar]

He was complaining. He's like, well, it used to be five. I was like, no one cares. No one cares. And then. And it's like it said most of it was in my legs. I was like, so your butt, I'm assuming.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Say it's all like.

[Oscar]

He was like, I have to do the stair master more because my body mass index says my fat is held in my legs. I was like, I think that's just normal. Pretty sure, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where it would be.

[Oscar]

I was like, no one cares about your apron. And his metabolism is that of a 12 year old.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's so annoying.

[Oscar]

It really is. This is what I have to deal with at home.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I would be like, I bet I'm probably 95% fat. I think I have no muscle. Maybe my legs we talk about because I have to carry myself. But I think other than that, I don't know. This is nothing. The arms, like, what is it? Where I can't even keep my arms. But there is something we do. And I'm like, I can't even like hold my arms up. I forget. Oh, I know what it was. Okay. Yeah. Well, I can't say the specifics, but I was on. It was the thing I was doing with. Yeah, okay. There's a bunch of models and towards the end we all had to do this, like group pose where we all had our arms around each other and we were like leaning back and they held it there the whole time. And I had like, put it. I'm like, y'all are so strong. How are you doing this? And they just kept it there the whole time. I kept trying to put mine down. I was like, damn, they're really strong. That's really crazy. But BMI were. We talked. Someone was talking about bmi.

[Oscar]

We were last week about the sinking when you go in the pool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, someone did say that fat people.

[Moses]

Do float and that's how you can start your sound.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where. Who? What BMI are you?

[Moses]

No. Is it easy for you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's all my floaters at?

[Moses]

Floaties.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute. Who here could float in a pool?

[Moses]

Is it easy for you to float?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I always do yeah. Okay.

[Oscar]

And on Patreon, we're gonna work out with Jeff soon anyway. So you'll get all that stuff?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we gotta call him up. I hope he's okay. See if he's, like, mentally okay. And yes, I would love to. I love him. Jeff, we need a workout session. Did you ever see that? Reminded me. Sorry. Everything reminds me of Wendy. Because I, like, I'm on Wendy Talk. I just see so many old clubs where she's like, who here has. Was it, like, social anxiety? Did you ever see that clip? Here was social time. I feel kind of bad for you. It's like you thought she was gonna say something like, empathetic me after I was that big. Where's all my fatties? I feel kind of bad for you. Oh, my God. If I was like, skin. Oh, my God. If I did Ozempic, like, you could not tell me anything. I'd be like, I'm skinny.

[Oscar]

That is a great segue because there was. You remember Psy. He who's saying Gangnam Style?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, I did see the apology.

[Oscar]

He had to apologize for losing weight because he posted it before and after of his, like, weight loss journey. And a lot of people. I think it was a lot of jokes. I'm sure some were serious, probably, but there's a lot of jokes in there. People saying, like, what happened to you? Why'd you lose so much weight? And he replied to every comment apologizing for being skinny. Now.

[Trisha Paytas]

You kind of have to these days, huh? People really hate to see a weight loss transformation. It's so true. Oh, I'm before and after. All day long, everything. It's trickery. I'd be like, before and after because, like, you want to see. You're just like, damn. Oh, my God, that transformation. I didn't see. He looked. He wasn't fat before, right?

[Oscar]

No, I don't think so. It kind of gives me David Dobrik, like, being. Oh. When he got David Dobrik calling himself obese or whatever, like, just, like, a little bit more, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, people. People are triggered if you're fat. People are triggered if you lose weight. They just get. It's so funny. Like, the David Dober gets a good example. I mean, he's a piece of. I love that people are, like, attacking him, but it's just in general, like, he, like, got himself, like, looking so good, and everyone's just like, that looks weird. Which is. I know that would be me because I remember when. I mean, this is such an old reference. Do you know Star Jones.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

From the View. And she lost a bunch of weight. And everyone's like, she looks like a bobblehead. And it's like, but when she was fat.

[Oscar]

I do remember that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like, okay. But like, when she was fat, everyone's like, oh, this big on the View. And then she lost weight, and it's like, what a bobblehead. It's like, jesus, Al Roker got the same treatment. I was like, you really just can't please anybody. Even all the skinny girls are the girls on TikTok who lost a bunch of weight. The Remy Jo Bader, I think Alexis Oakley. They'll like, preface it by saying, I'm not gonna talk about my weight anymore because, like, angers people, you know, like, the weight loss or whatever. So they don't even, like, mention what they did. Because I think Alexa Oakley said she did take Ozempic but didn't want to talk about it because she want to, like, trigger people.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is a crazy thing. It's like, like. But it used to be so praised weight loss. It still is, isn't it? I don't know. But now you're apologizing. Like, we have Sai. Poor Sai. Just apologizing. People get mad. I'll apologize for my weight loss. I'll do that. Honestly, I do think about it sometimes. I'm like, maybe I wouldn't look better skinnier anyways. I know they're talking this whole thing. Sometimes I think about it because, I mean, some. Some people look better with weight loss, and some people kind of like, maybe they look better with a little weight on them. But I guess, I suppose there's a happy medium. I suppose £200 might be okay. Sorry. I love it. I love my body. I'm going on tour. I feel great. I've been dancing eight hours a day. I'm gonna give you guys a show. I'm excited because all the airport walking, the meet and greets, I stand up for two hours. The show. I'm there for two hours. I'm gonna be no nature's oic walking. Just moving your body, actually.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I come back to pounds lighter. I'm like, wow, If I just walked, I probably could have. We used to walk again before kids. We have to, like, schedule. We have to schedule times for everything. And there's, like, just no time to do anything, hardly. But we should schedule a walk time. Kids are good for a walk. They like to go on walks. Melbourne likes to go on a walk and stuff. Yeah, we'll do that what we do. We need to.

[Moses]

When you're back from tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. After all me, I should wear my Apple watch. See how much mini miles I get.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where is it? I have no idea.

[Moses]

In your closet when I was looking for the passport.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Where was it? In your closet, the Apple watch? Just like, on the floor.

[Moses]

I went of the cabinets.

[Oscar]

Should we end with reacting to Tana reacting to you and Joey? I feel like that's something I love reacting to podcasts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Reacting to not us, but us to get, but kind of us, but also not.

[Oscar]

It gives me, like, Mr. Beast. I mean, Rosanna talking about Mr. Beast. Guys, when you just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I loved his. Just inserting myself and then also, like, just going back and forth. That's the best thing about podcasts. Just people talking about podcasts, talking about podcasts. And they just go back.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ception. Yep, here we go.

[Tana Mongeau]

My phone's on sos. It was a very scary, awful situation. And then Joey Graceffa goes on just Trish and says. And I quote it up on her podcast, I was like, honestly, whatever. She can complain. It's bringing attention to the project. You infuriating to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you were so specific about, like, not making. It was you love him. Sorry.

[Tana Mongeau]

Complaining is crazy. And then almost like, diminishing, like, the pinky thing. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what he said to Trisha exactly. If it was like, ask her how her pinky is, and it's like, okay, but this man who just, like, literally, verbally.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that sexual assault? It's harassment.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sexual harassment. This man who just sexually harassed me on a set, then just, like, broke my pinky. Like, that hurts. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's so, so annoying. And then you're pinky and like, Joey, I also have a podcast. You know that when inviting me on. And I would have never said anything. I would have never, you know what I mean? Even brought it up until it came out, had that not happened. But, like, that happened to me. And once again, had that been so many young, sweet YouTubers and influencer girls, I know that situation could have very easily gone so differently because. Because they're not necessarily as outspoken of people as me. To write that off as just complaining is like, so how can you even.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, like, interpret it as complaining? Like, there's nothing. Like, it's not like, you were like, oh, my God. And I hated being there and it sucked. And I had the worst day.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, I was like, about being in downtown LA early in the Morning. But that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody wants to be in downtown. That's fair, though.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I'm just very. At the point in my life, I think, that I have grown so much as a person and I've also shown my growth so much online for people to then like, oh, it's just Tana me over things that are serious. Enrages me now because it's like, you didn't have to go say that you like. And I, like, loved Joey Graceffa. I don't know. Like, I just like, it's like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bet Joey came on. It was the same day. Yeah, Joey came on in the morning and I had seen. I had seen Tan talk about it on her podcast. Then I had seen Joey talk about it. And when I heard Tana talk about originally, I do think she, like, underplayed it, like, what happened, basically. And then Joey was, like, annoyed because he just didn't want people to know the cast. So he's like, well, clearly people know what it was for because whatever. So his more annoyance was like, oh, Tana, like, ruined that she was on it or something. And then. Yeah, then when he was here, he kind of gave us. You were here. He kind of gave us, like, free reign to be like, oh, yeah, ask her about it. Whatever. As he said in the other clip, like, it's publicity. So I just, you know, honestly, it's the most escape the night's ever been talked about.

[Oscar]

I know. I was gonna say I've never. Since the Gabbie Hannah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Since the Gabbie Hannah, I think. Yeah. Like, this is also like a crowdfunded thing. It's not by. Backed by YouTube. Like, it's just not. It wasn't going to get a lot of publicity as is. So it was getting posted. I thought, well, I guess he's kind of in on it to be like, well, let her talk about it. Because Tana's influence is so big. Right? So I was like, okay. And it was kind of, like fun and, like, funny or whatever when he was here. Then Tana comes on the afternoon. Well, she talked about it. I guess it's actually harassed part here. So, yeah, then. But she was really, like, shaken up by it. Like, she was really shaken up by the whole thing because they have scare actors. And the gist of it. There was a lot happening, but the gist of it was she was left with a Scare actor. She's like. And she described it, she's like, hanging like she's being. She's like, tied up by her hands, her legs, like Up. Up on. I guess, like a ceiling or something. I don't know. And there's a scare actor there who's supposed to be, like, torturing her or something. I don't know. But I guess when they cut, everyone left. Like, the cameras, everyone left. And they left her, like, hanging up there. And the scare actors with her and the guy just started being, like, super inappropriate. Like, saying, like, really inappropriate stuff while she was hanging there.

[Moses]

Something like, this is like a situation he always wanted to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, or dream about.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it was like 20 minutes. They're down there by themselves. Paige isn't there. She is upstairs because. Oh, they told her she can't come down.

[Moses]

There's no phones down there. There's no signal. She has no way to communicate to anyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Paige was trying to come down to film. Like, no. No one's allowed down here.

[Moses]

And the person is behind a map mask, too. So she. It's not like she face. And who said that at that moment?

[Trisha Paytas]

And she. She said something to production, but, like, no one did anything because the guy was still there. Was that the thing where it was. God, I have to rewatch.

[Moses]

It definitely said something then. Not related. There was a different moment where that same person was doing something and. But it was. There was some kind of a movement that. In that he hurt her pinky. And she realized it's the same person. And then she really freaked out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was already, like, just kind of on edge from that situation, so. So even after, when she tells me more stuff, I mean, she. They're like other influencers that went through stuff. I mean, we'll bleep out her name, but said went through something. There was just a lot of weird stuff happening, and she just didn't, like, feel, like, super comfortable. And it's not, I guess, in the way it didn't feel safe, like a regular production. You know, usually there's people around at all times. You know what I mean? You're never, like, left alone.

[Oscar]

It was such a smaller production.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was a smaller production. So, like, she told people. People were, like, aware, and they're kind of like, oh, damn, that's. I'm sorry that happened or something. And, like, I don't know. So I think it was just. Yeah. I mean, I'm, like, saying it not so much, like, in her terms or whatever, but I could tell just being here, like, how, like, shaken up she was by it. So then I kind of felt like, oh. Because I thought it was, like, fun and, like, a key to bring it up. And I was like, oh, this is kind of like a bad situation. So I think I even say in the episode, I'm like, because with Joey, I was like, I want to be in the nest to skip the night. And after that, I was like, absolutely not. I don't want to be in that. That sounds crazy. Even just like the little part of just being hung up there with, ah, no. Or Moses can't come down and film with me. Like, no. What?

[Oscar]

I get why she's pissed. Because, yeah, I think. And again, we start with, like, the Cody Ko thing, too. I think that was kind of like a breaking point for her. Just my analysis of, like, people being like, oh, but that's Tanner. Like, who can ever trust what Tina has to say? So, like, I think that was a breaking point of her being, like, really sick as, like, a grown adult now who, you know, she has her podcast. I feel like she kind of has shifted the narrative a little bit. Right. Like, now she's. I think, a lot more reliable. People take her more seriously now as an older creator.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even if it was a Brianna Chicken fries, it would be like, that's so up. You know what I mean? Someone who. Or like a guitar yummy. Someone who's like a party girl personality who's, like, just down for the boys. Like, I just think it's like. But like, I guess like you're saying is like, yeah, they're like, saying, oh, it's just Tana. But it's just also like, damn. Like, even if it was Tana during Tanacon or during whatever era she's in, it's like, wouldn't you still feel bad?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Regardless, you should feel bad and, like, you know, do more than just be like, oh, that's just Tana. But I think. Think what she's talking about specifically is, like, with her is like, when Joey was here, being like, oh, but you know how Tana is. Whatever. Like this specific of Joey talking about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true.

[Oscar]

Which isn't fair because, you know, obviously I think she's just sick of hearing that. As someone who she's grown up a lot. She's not like, she's not the Tanacontana anymore, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And even on canceled, like, yes, she talks in hyperbole. And yeah, she, like, can sensationalize. Because I think that was the thing with the pinky was I heard she's like, oh, I broke my pinky. But then everyone was like, like, well, she's moving it so it just shoot jammed it or Whatever. But still, like, it hurts, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So I think just blowing everything Tana says office, like sensationalism or hyperbole. It's just like insulting. Especially. I didn't know how serious it was too, with like the sexual harassment and stuff then especially, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like one of the actors and she, like, made it known to, like, quite a few people, I believe. And so that. Yeah. And obviously when you're on a smaller production. But even so, I mean, Joey said. I mean, there was a production, there was like a team, you know, it was just like him. Whatever. Even so, I think more so just.

[Moses]

It just confirmed her fear that people did not take it seriously.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is. Yeah.

[Moses]

Hearing how he described the same situation. Because hearing her describe it and hearing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Him describe it, that would be the worst. And I think.

[Moses]

Right. So then when she actually. Because it's one thing to be there and like, not remember, like, you know, what did they feel about what did they do about it? Or not that. But now you hear it. It's like hearing the people talking behind the scenes in the production saying, oh, it's okay. Just let it be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Especially since she let so many people know. And I want to say, like, Joey too. So it's like, yeah, it does suck. Especially when it's like your friend and.

[Oscar]

You'Re just like, yeah. And to. And I would say this is fate. Like, if I knew about this when he was here, I would say the same thing. But it's like, also, realistically, she was doing you a favor, so you at least owe it to her to, like, take her seriously. You know what I mean? I think I can. I think again, just me projecting. I feel like he still has that. The idea of Hannah, like, when he met her when he first worked with her on Escape the Night. Because, yes, she was like, just got popular on YouTube and she was like more of that, like wild 18 sensational. Maybe he still has the idea of her and just doesn't, like, take her as serious, you know, but, like, you know, she's doing you a favor. She's a one, like such a popular creator. Still so popular. She's doing this for you because she likes you, you know, so you owe it to her to take her seriously.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even I didn't return those texts clock the Joey Graceff interview. I was like. He's like, oh, I did text you. I was like, oh, did you forgot me that actually.

[Oscar]

Oh, my. You were like. You were like. You didn't reach out. I never heard. I didn't get a Text.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, oh, yeah. No, I. Actually, you know what? Maybe I didn't at the time of the interview, but I kind of specifically remember getting that. Be like. Like, you. You never had me on any of them.

[Oscar]

You did. And in real time. And then when you were. When he was here, you're like, what? I never got a text.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's just me not remembering, but in the moment, I was like, yes, you. Why would I ever do this? Who's doing this?

[Oscar]

I think you were on this program when that happened.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, I surprised all the people that did come. I was like, all right, if I'm not on Traders, I'm not going to skip the night.

[Oscar]

But you told them you were going to be on. Well, you were standing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, after that. No. And then that same day that happened, and all of a sudden I'm like.

[Oscar]

I wish it was flip, because that context is very important of Tanner's tail.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was other people, too, that had some issues. Like, a pretty popular creator, too, and. But no, I. I think that's, like, so valid. And it would be annoying to have someone then dismiss. It's one thing to be, like, ignoring it, whatever, and then to, like, dismiss it or be funny because I didn't know the severity of it, obviously.

[Oscar]

Like, I knew I was more camp. Like, she heard her pinky. I didn't know there were so many paint layers to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Then when she came here, like, the darkest story ever, I was like, yeah, Jesus. And that's. That's pretty intense because we had just come off the Gabbie Hanna food situation. Yeah. So we're just like, okay.

[Oscar]

Unserious.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Escape the Nightmare needs. Or Escape the Night. You just. It's a good name. Escape the Night Just needs to end gracefully. Bow out. He's talking about doing a whole movie and selling it and pitching it. I'm like, okay, we crowdfunded this one, and it's cute. We love it. But also, it's like, one episode. I don't know. Just remember. He was like, I think the only thing we had to cut out of the episode was me saying I knew the cast members. He's like, can you just cut that out? Like, do people really care?

[Oscar]

People care. There are fans of it. There are definitely are fans of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, everyone knows, though. How would I know? You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, because they're spoiling it. Like, he actually had some inside information. I was like, no. Like, you're people.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, I would love to say It. But let me just not. I just spoil it right now. No, I appreciate him coming on. He has. He did very well his episode. I was very, you know, surprised. And. Yeah. And obviously love Tana. Honestly, that's, like, good she has a podcast because now people take her more seriously, which is, like, crazy. But, like, like, the Cody KO situation, like, he didn't even, like, dare to, like, touch it. You know what I mean? Because he knows he effed up.

[Oscar]

And yeah, she has the plot. I mean, again, again, to her point, she was kind of saying too, if it happened to other people who didn't have their platform, you know, so she's at least lucky to have a platform to be able to talk about her experience. But some. A lot of victims don't have that same platform. So that's why it's important that she does speak out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was thinking about that, like, literally, because this freaking David Dorberg, when people are like, whatever, defending him or whatever. And it's just like, a thing about when I came out with mine in 2019, when I talked to, like, exposing David for the first time, Vlogs squad, and I got so much backlash. So then in 2020, when the girls came out their story, I remember them emailing and being like, well, they emailed me in 2019. The girls who talked about getting, like, the alcohol underage, and they're like, we know. We really know share, but we're, like, too scared to share our story because of this. And then when 2020 happened, they were like, you know, because of your, like, video, we were, like, able to, like. Because I was on a different platform at the time talking about it, and, like, because of this, now we're, like, able to talk about it. So I think we'll see. Yeah, people are scared because they're scared of the backlash. You know, Tanner's getting backlash. Then obviously someone with a little smaller following will also get a backlash, so. Damn, that dark.

[Oscar]

Yeah, just Trish, the source of a lot of drama again.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always think we're just having a fun.

[Oscar]

I know it ends up being.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why there's no more guests. I, like, honestly, we haven't had any guests. Oh, no, we did. We had Rebecca, Joey and Tana. Gabby's coming up next. Gabby, Barbie, and Carolyn. Those will be my next ones. Yeah. When I have to. When I'm gone sometime on tour, I'll do that. They're the ones I care about the most. But I want to do it fresh. I was, like, relevant. I have to do something now and.

[Oscar]

Then, like save it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It comes out three weeks or something like that. So I'm trying to do my scheduling. But anyways, you guys, we love you. Was that it or was there more?

[Oscar]

That was it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's it. I love your horsesher. I've been just staring at it this whole time.

[Oscar]

We are the horse girl. Palooza.

[Trisha Paytas]

Palooza. I would love if they did a spin off podcast just about riding horses. Probably would be huge. Could you imagine that? Like takes off. There's so many horse girls out there.

[Oscar]

Yeah. The equestrian demo. It's real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's the way to go. Yeah, you know, like if you just in general.

[Oscar]

Horses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Horses. Let's do it. Let's get out of this. Hot Topics. Bethany Frankel was talking about Wendy Williams. Hot Topics. And she was saying that Wendy Williams was just unhappy the entire time. I was like, I don't know if she knows that or she's just speculating.

[Oscar]

Sometimes Bethany just be talking as if she knows.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we're mutuals though.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Oh, love, love, Skinny girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it. Skinny girl. Margarita. She's probably rich, huh?

[Oscar]

Oh, for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that she's on Tick Tock and just like so rich and still just like on Tick Tock every day. Probably would be me too.

[Oscar]

Is you. But yeah, not her. Rich.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am definitely not.

[Oscar]

Those seatbelt extenders might make you the next.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, we need to get those. I'm going on a plane soon. Okay. I'm gonna get the seatbelt extenders for that in the Rainforest Cafe ride. All right, you guys, we love you. Go get tickets to the Heirs of Trish Stewart starting this week. Don't worry, I'm gonna have some water and hot honey. Okay, this sounds worse than it is, but I'm gonna be singing, I'm gonna be belting, and it's gonna be so good. And it's all. It's a bunch of new songs you never heard before. So come see it. Oscar will be. What were you doing Friday? You had plans Friday? You said you were doing something. Oh, Love is Blind, the new episode.

[Oscar]

Oh, this coming Friday?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you said the 21st. That's what Oscar will be doing. Moses. What will you be doing this Friday?

[Moses]

Friday night? Yeah, we'll be watching Sunny Bunnies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe scroll through Tick Tock. Maybe you can see me.

[Moses]

Yeah, I mean, they watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you ever do that? Do you ever scroll and be like.

[Moses]

Oh, there's Trisha performing my entire Tick Tock.

[Oscar]

Is that Trish talk?

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you watch it or no?

[Moses]

Of course I like it. I watch it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love watching all the post. Don't repost all the time, do you? I repost all the time.

[Moses]

Your stuff. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Indianapolis, gonna be a wild crowd. It's gonna be a good one.

[Moses]

It's the first show. I mean, the first show is always the most exciting opening night.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. Hopefully I don't slip on those damn bubbles, because I almost said yesterday. I was like, I guess I think I'm gonna slip over here.

[Moses]

But, yeah, I mean, it's supposed to be soap water. It's a.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's nobody to clean up. They're like, the lights will melt it. I'm like, okay, that's crazy.

[Oscar]

Have your camera phones ready to capture them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. If I'm gonna fall, please, please capture that. That's all I care about. All right, guys, we love you so much. We'll see you at Hot Topics on Thursday. Oh, and the extended podcast right now on Patreon. Patreon.com just. Trish. Surprisingly, I'm not too hungry. I thought I was gonna be hungry. I didn't eat anything before this. I was gonna be a little hungrier, but I had grapefruit this morning. All right, bye.