Trisha Paytas (1:40)

Totally. That is very that. Because that is that. There's, like, dressing rooms, there's hallways everywhere. And yes. You wouldn't expect to just run in, but then you just bump into someone like Shaboozi or Paul Mescal, and that is very that. I love it. We'll never forget SNL forever. That'll be my new identity for the next 15 years. I love it so much. It was the Eminem video I rode for about 15 years. Exactly. That was 2009, so I think we rode that about 15 years. So SNL will be my next 15 year. I was on SNL until now.

Oscar (2:05)

What's next?

Trisha Paytas (2:06)

Yeah, well, what's next is this Morgan and Morgan trophy they gave us. This is the craziest thing. Moses put it to the side until our ad read later today, because they're one of our sponsors. But I was like, this needs to be. I wanted this friend center where the ghost was. But Moses was like, well, we'll do it for the ad.

Oscar (2:22)

The whole episode. Yes.

Trisha Paytas (2:23)

Okay. First of all, I texted it to Jimmy because I was like, I have no one to talk about this with. Like, I know Jimmy edits the ad, so I thought maybe he'd be. This is, like, on behalf of him, too. Maybe he does a really. A really good edit. Maybe we accept it together. I don't know why we got this award. It came in this, like, crazy crate box. Like, how would you describe that box?

Moses (2:41)

I was analyzing it because I was like, you know, as an artist, if I had to make this thing. So it's like, you have to make the base and make the acrylic and take the logo, print it on. And the crate was, like, shipping artwork.

Trisha Paytas (2:54)

Yeah.

Moses (2:55)

Like, the pieces of foam were measured and fit exactly to make sure it doesn't break on the way. It's a wooden crate.

Trisha Paytas (3:02)

It was crazy. That crate was crazy.

Moses (3:03)

I thought it was a prank or something. Or is it.

Trisha Paytas (3:05)

It looked like a Mr. Beast thing or something. Not a bad way, but just, like, you know, like, what's inside this mystery box?

Moses (3:11)

And, yeah, it's the award of the.

Trisha Paytas (3:13)

Most always tries to every time box come, like, what did you order? And I was like, I swear I didn't order these.

Moses (3:17)

Not in that dumb. I was just like, no. Because I was like, there's a little judgment sometimes. This crate was like, what did you order that it would come in a crate like this, you know, sculpture? I was more excited. I was like, is this sculpture. Is it like, it's something serious?

Trisha Paytas (3:33)

That's so funny. In my head, I'm like, what did you. Because I'm always like, it's not me, it's pr. This is crazy. Yeah. I mean, Morgan and Morgan really knows what's up, though, because they also sent When Aquaman's Born, like, a baby gift basket. It was like, onesie. Yeah, a beanie that said Morgan and Morgan. Literally, there was a onesie, and it was just a yellow one. It just had Morgan. It was like, Morgan and Morgan and Morgan or something. There's like, three Morgans in there. I was like, wow, they really. They really go hard with the branding.

Oscar (3:56)

So speech that you want to give.

Trisha Paytas (3:59)

Yes. That is exactly what I was here for. So thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for not only sponsoring this episode, but believing in us. You Were one of the first to join this podcast. There was. There was a dry spell for the first few months, but they have consistently been with us. They're consistently with you guys. Honestly, this is one of my favorite sponsors. I'm not just saying that this is my favorite sponsors because I love that they're just like, hey, we want to work for you for free. You know what I mean? Because I think so many people like not to. Again, I know we're doing an ad read later. This is not the official ad read, but it's like, when I do those ad reads, I keep think thinking, like, this is kind of cool, actually. The. It's free unless you win. You know, it's like, there's no fee, you know, basically. And I like that because there's some people that are wronged in this world but don't have the money to fight. And I really do love that they do that. That they just, like, will fight for you for free. And obviously, like, you win, you give them a little. Okay, yeah. You throw them a little bit of your. Of your winnings or settlement, I guess. Not really winning. You probably lost something, which is why you're. You're suing in the first place. But, you know, I like that the just.

Moses (4:57)

If justice is made.

Trisha Paytas (4:58)

If justice is made. And Morgan, we're gonna help you with that. You know, you give them a little of what, you know they helped you with. But, yeah, it's an honor and an honor to have the Just Trish logo with the Morgan and more. It's like we're emerging pink. Oh, is it pink?

Oscar (5:12)

The logo?

Trisha Paytas (5:13)

Oh, you're right. Because their branding is usually yellow and black. Wow. I do feel like this is a weird merging.

Oscar (5:20)

Yeah.

Moses (5:20)

Are we partners? Like, are they becoming partners?

Trisha Paytas (5:25)

Yes, that'd be. We're watching A Drop at Diva right now. That would be iconic. Actually.

Oscar (5:30)

I watch a lot of the Long Crime channel, which is like, they cover. You know, makes sense for them. They always are sponsored by Morgan and Morgan and it makes sense for them because they cover, like, current crime cases and courts in court cases. But let me tell you, they do not have a little trophy, and they never. Anything special.

Moses (5:50)

No.

Trisha Paytas (5:50)

I'm so. I'm honored. Surprise. Shook. Shocked, but honored. Like, I never had, like, a brand just go so above and beyond. Like, always sending us. Sending us stuff.

Moses (6:02)

So things.

Trisha Paytas (6:03)

Things. And like you said, this is expensive. It's heavy. It's. It made a lot of time into this, so I love it. It does feel very like daytime tv. Like, when I Used to stay home from school. I would always see, like, Morgan and Morgan commercials. So I feel like it's like daytime people who are watching, you know, and maybe they did get injured. Maybe that's why they're watching. They're injured because they're like, I can't go to work today, so I'm have to watch something. So I'm doing this. And they're like, maybe they were wrongfully injured and need to talk to Morgan. And Morgan.

Oscar (6:27)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (6:28)

And honestly, I love it. I love it. Lawyers are expensive. I know. We so many times are like, oh, we should sue. We should do that. It's. It's expensive. No one wants to be in a lawsuit. So Morgan. Morgan does, though. They're going to fight what's right. Oh, it is America's largest injury law firm. That's crazy. You think that's true? Their biggest. They're the biggest.

Oscar (6:49)

I think they would know the law.

Moses (6:53)

I think they want to get sued.

Trisha Paytas (6:56)

Wow. What an honor to be associated with America's largest indoor e law firm.

Moses (7:00)

I wish you could have seen. I wish they would send us a video of them coming up with this idea. Like the board meeting. They're sitting there in the law firm.

Trisha Paytas (7:06)

That's true.

Moses (7:07)

Like, what should we do to appreciate, you know, we appreciate Trisha so much? Like, maybe like a big acrylic sign on a. Oh, what if they put.

Trisha Paytas (7:15)

Me on a billboard?

Oscar (7:18)

Oh, my God, that'd be so fierce.

Trisha Paytas (7:20)

Oh, my gosh. That'd be everything.

Moses (7:21)

Because in la, if you live in la, you know, the signs on the buses and the billboards, there's always a guy. And the injury law firm.

Trisha Paytas (7:28)

That's so weird. I have a black turn that contest. I was just taking headshots in the garage and she literally said, you look like first she had a real estate, but I think more of a law firm representative. I'm not a lawyer, but I could represent.

Moses (7:40)

No, you don't. Representation, just. Just diva.

Trisha Paytas (7:43)

Yeah. Okay, I'll send him a headshot. Jimmy, remind me to send you the headshot to insert. I think that's cool. I would love to be on a billboard for Morgan and Morgan. Gosh, I love them. I believe in them. And obviously you guys too. So wait for the ad read in about 20 minutes. It's a good one.

Moses (7:58)

Yeah, this is my award.

Trisha Paytas (8:00)

Yeah, we found that at the coffee shop.

Moses (8:02)

No, you got. This is my award for my wife.

Oscar (8:05)

Jelly cat. Yeah, it's a jelly cat.

Moses (8:07)

Can you believe there hopped on the trend.

Trisha Paytas (8:10)

Yes.

Oscar (8:11)

Tin fish. Jelly cat.

Trisha Paytas (8:12)

That's fierce tinfish jelly cat. We got that at the coffee shop where we.

Moses (8:16)

Well, you got it for me. When you saw it, you're like, you. I have to get it.

Trisha Paytas (8:20)

Yes. Because we were. Yeah, it's the place where we normally get the jelly cats. Jelly cats are expensive. We're going to be talking about luxury hauls in a second. This is our luxury haul. $65. Really crazy.

Oscar (8:31)

Wow.

Trisha Paytas (8:32)

Yes. But I was doing a partnership with milk that day, so I was like, you know what?

Oscar (8:35)

Let me splurge.

Trisha Paytas (8:36)

Yeah, I'll do a little splurge. But there it is.

Moses (8:40)

The my favorite new thing.

Trisha Paytas (8:42)

Jelly cat's getting on the trend. Hopping on your trend. You didn't start it.

Moses (8:47)

I knew tin fish would be such a.

Trisha Paytas (8:49)

Yes. You spilled the tinfish the other day. It smelled crazy in here. I walked in, oh, after my Pilates, I've been doing two twice week parties. I wish you could see my Pilates body right now. But I have this huge sweater on. I don't know where this came from. I like, literally this company sent me a bunch of oversized sweaters. I don't know. Yeah, there's like aliens in that room. There's an alien sweater. I was like, which one? They sent like five of the same sweaters. So I don't know this company. Maybe I should look up the name. But anyways, I do have a Pilates body on underneath here. I've been going like three times a week and my Pilates body is crazy. Like, I'm so strong. Anyways, that's not the point of this. The point is I walked back in and I was like, I just. What are we doing? Oh, we were going out to eat or something. And I just walked back in briefly to use the restroom. Oh, my God, it smelled. I literally thought, you know, me and the mouse, you know, the mouse is in the house. Like, I thought I was a dead mouse.

Oscar (9:30)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (9:31)

I was like, oh, my God, there's a dead mouse. And then before I was like, let me think about this for a minute. And then I went back in the car and I just like, let me just ask Moses. I'm like, did you eat some fish today down there? And he's like, it spilled. I was like, yeah, that was potent. Cause usually I smell it a little. It lingers. That one. Yeah.

Moses (9:45)

She never smells anything. And this was. And it didn't spill even that much. It was just.

Trisha Paytas (9:49)

That's true. I don't smell. I literally smell nothing. People will be like, you don't smell.

Moses (9:52)

Because in my video I showed. Because usually I drained them and then I showed the fish. This time it looked like there was nothing there. So I showed the fish and suddenly it's like everything just.

Trisha Paytas (10:01)

Oh, so that's the bottle. That was wild, that one. Yeah. I smell nothing. I had like, moles removed to get biopsied. And like, she's like, oh, yeah, you'll smell like a second. I'm like, oh, I don't smell it. And she like, you don't smell your skin burning? I was like, no, not at all. And she, oh, my gosh. I'm in here all the time and I'm used to it. I smell it. So I smell literally nothing. I did smell those fish and that was. What was it that day? That was salmon.

Moses (10:22)

Smoked salmon.

Trisha Paytas (10:22)

Oh.

Moses (10:23)

It was one of the best ones I've had so far. 10 out of 10.

Trisha Paytas (10:27)

You want to try it?

Oscar (10:29)

No, I don't eat fish or sea creatures.

Trisha Paytas (10:32)

We should one day bring it for.

Moses (10:33)

Oscar to try out friends he has.

Trisha Paytas (10:36)

Yeah, but salmon.

Oscar (10:39)

Yeah. Okay.

Moses (10:40)

I'm sure if he could, he had a tank at home with the big.

Oscar (10:42)

I would love. They're very sweet. Darian is in his tin fish era right now.

Moses (10:46)

Really?

Trisha Paytas (10:46)

Wow.

Oscar (10:47)

Yeah. Because he had to replace eggs as his high protein meal for his.

Moses (10:52)

Yeah, well, this is so much. I mean, it's so healthy.

Oscar (10:56)

Yeah. And a lot of protein. He's on his protein kick.

Moses (10:58)

Oh, my gosh. Threes and all kind of things.

Trisha Paytas (11:00)

Well, speaking of protein, milk is a great protein boost. Natural. It's in your fridge. Just a regular milk. That's all it takes. You know, nowadays everyone's like, protein this, protein that. Just do a shot of milk.

Moses (11:13)

How about that?

Oscar (11:14)

I'm dead. Because when you said milk, I thought you meant milk, cosmetics, but you.

Trisha Paytas (11:18)

No, just milk. Zero brain relations. Yeah, just. Just milk. There's a whole. There's a whole company out there that just wants you to drink more milk. And look, I get it. Like, you know, some people don't like milk. I do love milk. I am a milk drinker.

Oscar (11:30)

So there you go.

Trisha Paytas (11:32)

Yeah. I don't know, I think sometimes people are like, oh, she'll take any brand deal. But I actually love milk.

Moses (11:36)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (11:36)

Would you see sponsored today in this episode? But my TikTok is sponsored by milk. And my whole little script was that it's a pro because today actually is like, all these, like, companies now are offering, like, protein stuff, like protein boosts.

Oscar (11:48)

Yeah, I saw even, like, there's water and there was like, it's 3 grams of protein. In here, I'm like, girl, water. Eat some chicken. Like chicken or.

Trisha Paytas (11:59)

Tinfish? I guess.

Oscar (12:00)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (12:00)

Is that protein?

Moses (12:01)

Yeah, lots of it.

Trisha Paytas (12:03)

Why is everyone doing protein now?

Oscar (12:05)

Everyone's on that protein kick. It's kind of the trend as far as, like a wellness thing, I think, because it became known, like, how many grams of protein people should be having based on, like, their weight and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (12:15)

You started this. I remember you talking about this.

Moses (12:18)

Your mom started it.

Trisha Paytas (12:19)

Well, I, I recall my mom started talking about it, but I swear you were talking about it like a year ago.

Oscar (12:24)

I think it's pretty common because especially when you're trying to like, you know, gain muscle and stuff from like when I started personal training, like in 2018 or 2019, like, my trainer would tell me, like, oh, you should be having this much amount of protein. I was like, okay. And then when you start, like, you have apps that like count it and stuff, you're like, damn. You do have to like, eat quite a bit to hit your protein. But yeah, they, I feel like, because things are just advertised with protein, like the Chloe cloud popcorn.

Trisha Paytas (12:51)

Yeah.

Oscar (12:51)

And I saw a TikTok of like, you would have to eat like this one whole bag of Chloe popcorn or you can have half a chicken breast and get the same protein. So what though?

Trisha Paytas (13:00)

I guess it's like a salad selling point.

Oscar (13:02)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (13:02)

Like, oh, this has protein. It's probably good.

Oscar (13:04)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (13:05)

Protein pancakes are a thing. What's Kodak? Is that the one Zac Efron does?

Oscar (13:08)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (13:08)

Yeah, we had a bunch of those.

Moses (13:10)

Because when your brother came over, he asked us to get some of those for him.

Trisha Paytas (13:14)

Really?

Moses (13:14)

Yeah, that's why we got those.

Trisha Paytas (13:15)

Do you tell him, oh, we were to send. I love when people want something like, oh, they just send a PR to us because even like in New York, there's a place called Carmine's and like my brother's like, oh, my God, we should go to Carmine's. I was like, yeah, but usually there's like a two hour wait. And then I checked my dm. Well, first of all, I went to go to Carmine's NYC on Instagram. I was, oh, they follow me. I'm like, ooh, follow back. Then I went and saw. They sent me a message, like when I did my Broadway show January and like, anything time you need Carmines, like, let us know we're here. And I was like, so I sent it to my brother. I sent the screenshot. I was like, actually, I can get us into Carmines and not have to wait because literally there will be like, 12 of us. So I was like, okay. Anyways, it's kind of cool. It's kind of flex Kodak pancakes, too. Or waffles. Yeah. You do protein? You like to count your protein?

Oscar (13:53)

Not right now. I kind of just, like, do it in my head. But when I'm, like, really on it. Yeah, I use one of the apps and, like, track it, but I just don't have the time. These days, it's really time consuming to, like, sit there and, like, measure out how much you eat stuff. Because you're supposed to also have, like, a food scale to really, like, get, like, calculate how much you're getting and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (14:13)

So I hate it.

Oscar (14:14)

It's a lot.

Trisha Paytas (14:14)

I hate the calculation of it all. Like, I hate, like, the protein. Good, great. But, like, the calculation, it does seem like a waste of maybe life. Precious time we have here on this earth, you spend calculating. You know what they always say, like, you know, at the end of your life, it's like, you know, you don't say, I wish I worked more hours. And I'm sure you're not going to be like, oh, I wish I had protein. Yeah. I wish I measured protein that day. Yeah. Especially if you live a long life, you know, consuming protein, you'll be like, that was a lot of protein to consume. And if you live a short life not consuming protein, then whatever, maybe you lived more in the end of it. You know what I mean?

Oscar (14:46)

True.

Trisha Paytas (14:47)

Protein's crazy. What do you think a big steak has in it for protein?

Oscar (14:49)

A lot of protein. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (14:52)

Like a big tomahawk.

Oscar (14:54)

A lot. Yeah. I must have a lot.

Trisha Paytas (14:56)

You think your daily intake of protein could be in one steak? Maybe.

Oscar (14:59)

How much protein is probably.

Moses (15:01)

I mean, because I don't think you should eat more than that in a day.

Trisha Paytas (15:04)

Really. I feel like you. They do want you to eat more than that.

Moses (15:07)

I think the consumption of. I think you're supposed to eat the steak like a size of a deck of cards that that's enough for your whole day.

Trisha Paytas (15:15)

What's the grams?

Oscar (15:16)

30 grams of protein per 3 ounces of meat. So I guess it just depends how many ounces.

Trisha Paytas (15:21)

How many ounces in a pound? I don't know. How big is ours?

Moses (15:25)

It's probably four or five pounds.

Trisha Paytas (15:27)

So five pounds.

Oscar (15:30)

So 180 grams of protein. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (15:33)

Wow. We'll have enough, I think. Give me a glass of milk with that, too. That would be my. Yeah, that's what we're doing tonight. Okay. Very excited.

Oscar (15:43)

Oh, you're redoing steak night.

Trisha Paytas (15:45)

Yeah. Round Two.

Moses (15:45)

Well, it's that night.

Oscar (15:47)

Oh, yeah. Even I wish early afternoon.

Trisha Paytas (15:51)

I wish we had this discussion yesterday. It probably is, like, on our cameras or something.

Moses (15:55)

We're, like, sitting there on the couch.

Trisha Paytas (15:57)

And I'm like, okay, so we'll do the steak tomorrow. I was like, okay, but like, so what time?

Oscar (16:01)

Let's really make it clear.

Moses (16:03)

Look, he sent me a text, and he was confusing me. The text was like, because the text and the different text that we'll go eat after the podcast, but then we'll do the steak, where we'll do it for the thing you're doing, but we'll still order food at night. So I was just like, wait, now.

Trisha Paytas (16:17)

I'm confused, because I meant next week. Look, I want to start you confused.

Moses (16:20)

Two weeks in one.

Trisha Paytas (16:22)

Yeah, that. Well, you had to decipher that. Babe, I don't know what to tell you. But there. There is. Yes. I love steak talk. I'm obsessed with that. And I was thinking maybe instead of burgers on Sunday, you do the steak on Sunday. And then Mondays, we do our usual going out for either, like, tacos or sushi or wherever. But today we had to do it because I'm in glam, and I actually got a brand deal, not with steak, but another company that wants me to eat the steak with the product.

Oscar (16:42)

Love.

Trisha Paytas (16:43)

After one, it got 6 million views. So, anyways, honestly, whatever. I'm cool with whatever. I'm chill with whatever. But if you're asking, I was saying the afternoon. So we have a plan that in between this podcast and the extended podcast for Patreon, was gonna go upstairs, take it out to thaw for an hour, and then we have to wait another hour. So we have to get a little snack. That's the other thing. We have to get a little snack. I don't know, maybe in, like, an hour and a half or something. Maybe I'll order some curly fries or something from Arby's because we have to have a little snack. Because it's gonna be another hour after the podcast ends before we can eat, as opposed to. We usually eat right after this podcast. Like, we run. I'm like, bye, ask. We're using something for you.

Oscar (17:16)

Literally. I think sometimes I'm like, in the car. Then I'll be, like, responding to a couple things, and I see y' all booking it. I'm like, jesus.

Trisha Paytas (17:23)

We also had a short amount of.

Moses (17:24)

Time to get back to the kids. You know, the three kids, they have, like, this. This tiny window when they sleep.

Trisha Paytas (17:30)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is Actually true. But we do. I think about it sometimes, because sometimes your car is still here. Oh, my God. We're really. We're really eager to eat.

Moses (17:37)

This is why we like the taco place, because they're so fast. I mean, it's so good, but they're so fast.

Trisha Paytas (17:42)

Yes. And me and Oscar had the nachos delivered on our Patreon. Patreon.com just trish. I don't know how I felt about them delivered. Did you like them delivered?

Oscar (17:52)

I did, but I'm used to cheese like that. But you're not.

Trisha Paytas (17:55)

Yeah, the just coagulated cheese. It's crazy because it's so good in person. One day we should have to go in person because I do have a little setup there, too. I like to sit in front of the window. And that's a good setup, too. And it's just so much better in person. I feel like it's just yummier. I think you would like it better. And me and Oscar get the exact same nacho order.

Oscar (18:11)

Yeah, we had a little bit of, like, a parent trap moment where I was like, oh, my. Why we get the same exact thing.

Trisha Paytas (18:17)

I thought, like, in my head, I thought because I went upstairs to use the restroom, and you were, like, placing the order, so I thought maybe just put like, oh, I'll just get. Which has, like, two of, like, whatever.

Oscar (18:24)

No, I went and ordered my own thing. Now you've seen what you ordered, and we literally ordered the same plain everything that was.

Trisha Paytas (18:31)

I know. I'm shocked with you. For some reason, I thought you would love, like, a little sour cream or something or a little, like, wok on it. Like, no one I know. Like, plain nachos.

Oscar (18:38)

Like, nobody as plain as it gets.

Trisha Paytas (18:41)

Same.

Oscar (18:42)

Except I do like a sauce. I guess that's our difference.

Trisha Paytas (18:44)

But I like some sauce. Yeah, I'm very particular on it. But I like a cheese sauce. I like a queso sauce. There's our mugs. Gestures check on. Finally, as Moses too, I was like, let's use a gesture. Sorry. It sounds like I'm just telling him everything. But, like, go to just.com for a mug. Debbie Lotto's baby.

Oscar (19:01)

Do it.

Trisha Paytas (19:03)

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Oscar (20:30)

Yeah. Oh, and we're. I did have one follow up to steak gate, though. Is the. The way that you cut your steak, was that rage bait? Do you want to clarify, or is that the way you gen.

Trisha Paytas (20:39)

So funny. I swear, Handicap Moses can be my testimony. Like, I really don't see anything wrong with how I cut it because that's how I cut it all the time. Like, what was it? The.

Oscar (20:49)

I think the top comment was, like, you cut your steak inside out because you did start kind of like, from the middle. Like, you almost cut something in the.

Trisha Paytas (20:57)

I only like the middle. Oh, yeah. I like the middle of a steak. And even. Okay, this shows my love as a mother. When we do mastro's fillets, I will. You know, I cut mount because she loves flight, too. I. We get two. And I always cut Malibu the center because that's the best part because the edges are hard and tough and what? And I'll eat them. Like, I'll eat them. Obviously, I'm not really good at waste.

Moses (21:16)

Because I like the crusty of the end Even better if it has fat on it and it's burned a bit.

Trisha Paytas (21:22)

Crazy. Crazy.

Moses (21:23)

Like my favorite part of the steak.

Trisha Paytas (21:25)

Yeah, that's why. No, I like.

Moses (21:26)

So I usually eat those parts. She eats the center and then at the end of it.

Trisha Paytas (21:28)

Yeah, I give. I love a center. I only eat the center. So to me that's like, oh, I'm just taking the center out. Should I just cut off the edges first and then go into the center? Cause like, how else?

Moses (21:41)

Usually you cut them just all the way across strips and then I guess with that strip, you will just see the center of the strip and leave the ends.

Trisha Paytas (21:48)

Well, I was like, well, I'll cut them for you next time. But I was also like, but then all the commas will be like, she can't even cut her own steak now. I'm like, okay. Like, he offers. He wants to just like steak. Just like the runny.

Moses (21:58)

That's how I imagine it to begin with. I imagine me cutting the steak like that's part of the. Like the shift.

Trisha Paytas (22:03)

Yes, you do. Yeah, I'm down for it. We got new, new knives from Williams Sonoma, right? That's where we got them from. Love William Sonoma. Very bougie, very expensive. That's a. That's another haul. Our haul would be the Sardine Jelly Cats and the William Sonoma knives. That's my luxury haul these days. Knives are expensive. They're like a hundred and some plus dollars for like a set of knives.

Moses (22:22)

Yeah, well, they last for life.

Trisha Paytas (22:24)

Not ours. Our lasted three years. The ones we have upstairs, we bought them when we moved in.

Moses (22:28)

What do you mean?

Trisha Paytas (22:28)

Those knives we got were from when we moved in. Remember that Christmas.

Moses (22:31)

Yeah, but they still. They're great.

Trisha Paytas (22:33)

They're dull. That's why we have to get new ones. You even said you're like, I got new knives.

Moses (22:35)

Well, I went for cooking like a better set of knives because I cook so much and I.

Trisha Paytas (22:40)

Well, your birthday's coming up. I know what to get you. You know, like the ones that always get their wives, like a microwave or something. They're like, here's your present. Lingerie or something. You have to let me know what you want for your birthday because seriously, I do not know.

Moses (22:54)

I will. It might be a telescope. We might do that so we can see the aliens approaching.

Oscar (22:59)

Oh yeah, you said that last year too.

Moses (23:00)

Yeah, no, but I. I think it was Father's Day. But I. I didn't finish like researching because it is confusing which one to get because there's so many different Kinds, and I want to get the right kind.

Trisha Paytas (23:11)

Okay.

Moses (23:12)

So I will let you know which one to get.

Trisha Paytas (23:15)

I've still got to get you, like, a surprise gift. He doesn't like to want to do surprise gifts, so I still got to give him, like, a surprise. It's fun to, like, not know what you're getting. I'll get you that, too, but I feel like a surprise.

Moses (23:23)

I thought that crate was the surprise, but no, that is.

Trisha Paytas (23:26)

That's also you. That's all of ours. We can split it like mean girls. Just start passing out the Morgan and Morgan chunk. I do like that it was pink. That was everything. That was our weekend, and it was very relaxing. We watched the Courtney Stodden movie that came out yesterday. Did you watch it?

Oscar (23:41)

No, I didn't. I heard about it, though.

Trisha Paytas (23:44)

You know anything about it? Do you know anything about corny Son? Him?

Oscar (23:47)

A little bit. She got married when she was 6. Was it 16? Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (23:52)

To Doug Hutchinson. Do you remember him?

Oscar (23:55)

I only know him because of his relationship with Courtney Star.

Trisha Paytas (23:58)

That's what I was telling Moses. I was like, you know, in the whole movie, they're like, he's a celebrity. He's. This is that. It's like, I didn't know who he was either. Obviously. Like, then you're like, okay, he was in Green Mile, and he was in Lost, and you're like, okay. Like, kind of, I guess.

Oscar (24:08)

And what was the age difference again?

Trisha Paytas (24:10)

He was 51 and she was 16.

Oscar (24:12)

Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (24:14)

Insane.

Oscar (24:14)

What state did they get married in?

Trisha Paytas (24:16)

Vegas. Was it Vegas?

Moses (24:17)

Oh, is that what it looked like?

Trisha Paytas (24:19)

It looked like Vegas because she was walking along the casino. She's like. She's like, my feet couldn't touch the casino carpeting or something like that. Because she wasn't 21, but she got married. Yeah. I guess her parents signed her over. Yeah.

Oscar (24:31)

Yikes.

Trisha Paytas (24:32)

Big yikes. I had Courtney sodden on my dishwash podcast at my old house, and, yeah, it's crazy. Like, re watching. And then we watch, like, clips with the real. The real Courtney Sodden and Duck Hutchinson, and it's like. It's crazy how much, like, he was defending them. There was a great. God, what is his name? Billy Bush?

Oscar (24:48)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (24:49)

What. What's with you? Who's he with?

Oscar (24:50)

He was with Access Hollywood when I worked there. Now he is extra.

Trisha Paytas (24:56)

I don't know what one he was at when he was interviewing that, but he went in. He went in on Doug Hutchinson, like, on tv. It was crazy. He's like, you know, you're like a creep and like a PDF file. Because you found this girl on.

Moses (25:09)

Because when he's asked, how did you guys meet?

Trisha Paytas (25:11)

Yeah. He's like, oh, online. He's like, what? You creep. You PDF file. Like, what do you mean? You met this 16 year old girl online? And like. And then he like went in. He's like, you know, you just like ruined your whole career. Like, it's ruined like everything you did. Like, it was. He went so hard on him, which was good because the therapist next to them, I don't know if I trust that lady. She was. They were pointing couples there. But you remember that Show? Yeah, on VH1 and it was like Farrah Abraham was on there. Like people just with family or whatever. And the therapist next to them was like, so weird. He's like, you approve of this? And she goes, well, it's not about approving. It's like it is a real relationship. It was so weird.

Moses (25:41)

She was like, maybe the timing was wrong.

Oscar (25:44)

It was like a brunette therapist or.

Trisha Paytas (25:45)

Something kind of blanched. Like Dr. Jen was her name. She was on all couples therapy and then she was on family therapy. I guess that's why they went on that show because in the movie they kind of said they had to go on every reality show.

Oscar (25:58)

Oh, yeah, I remember her.

Trisha Paytas (26:00)

Yeah, Dr. Jen something. And she was, you know.

Oscar (26:03)

Oh yeah, Tiffany Pollard was on it too. I forgot about that.

Trisha Paytas (26:05)

Yeah, like, everybody was on this show. I wanted to go on that show. There was so many people on that show. I was like, that's a. That's a good one to be on. And she was. Yeah, weirdly, like, you think she would just adamantly be like, yeah, it's kind of. It's wrong.

Moses (26:19)

I think a therapist that's on a reality show is partially an actor, you know, like, she's partially serving the purpose of the show and not.

Trisha Paytas (26:27)

So I'm surprised they even had them on, actually. Hindsight, because like, at the end of the day, if she was 18, it would be different.

Moses (26:33)

Which is silly because she's not paid by the family, let's say to help the family. She's paid by a production company to be on the show VH1 for having.

Trisha Paytas (26:43)

Them on because literally she was a child.

Moses (26:45)

Well, anyone that used them for publicity, any. Anyone. They use the spectacle to make money and publicity.

Trisha Paytas (26:51)

So yeah, they should have even had a couple's therapy because it was validating them as a couple. And like, I don't blame. I love Courtney. I do not blame Corny because she was obviously like a child. But like, how are they? And Doug was, like, defending it. He was defending her, defending their love, their marriage, like, through all these interviews. And I was like, this is the.

Moses (27:08)

Way he was defending is by giving example of other people that married or dated children.

Trisha Paytas (27:13)

He's like, well, BO Derek was 15 and the husband. And she's like, yeah, ask Bo Derek. And she's. I was just like, it was the most wild thing. The movie was good. Doug. Doug Hutchinson was played by Doug Savant Savant, who was Tom Scavo and Desperate Housewives, which is one of my favorite actors. He looked. I guess he was meant to look old, but he looked a little older. Much better looking than the real Doug Hutchinson.

Moses (27:35)

It was a good cast.

Trisha Paytas (27:37)

Courtney son. And again, Courtney sign's, like, in the movie, too, which I thought was.

Oscar (27:39)

Oh, that's what I was gonna ask, too. Like, is she involved? Involved in it?

Trisha Paytas (27:42)

Yeah, she, like, kind of narrates. And she should have played herself, honestly, because she still looks good. She still looks like. I guess maybe it was maybe traumatic to play yourself. She played her mom, you know, she.

Moses (27:52)

Probably doesn't want to be that character, you know?

Trisha Paytas (27:55)

Yeah, I guess if they made a story about my life, I think I.

Moses (27:58)

Because in her case, the mom has.

Trisha Paytas (28:00)

A lot of fault, but she, like, forgive her. She was like, oh, no. Like, I forgive her.

Moses (28:04)

Should. But I'm saying, like, I don't know if you don't want to be playing that part.

Trisha Paytas (28:08)

I don't know if you should. If your mom, like, lets you get married. 16. Look, it's good she did. I don't know if you, like, have to do.

Moses (28:12)

No, but forgiveness for Courtney's sake, not for the mom's sake. It doesn't mean she has to have her mom in your life, but you can forgive her. Move on.

Trisha Paytas (28:19)

Her mom fell in love with her husband, with Doug. So she, like, came back from, like, work. I think she told me that on my podcast, too. And she came back from, like, walking, and they were, like, staying at the kitchen because she was, like, living with them and she can't. And he's like, yep, your mom's in love with me. She just told me. Then the mom, like, storms out and, like, like, cries, and it's, like, weird. But then she, like, forgives her at the end, and the whole thing is wild. And I feel like Courtney never really got to bounce back from that scandal, I guess, because people kind of, like, were really mean to her.

Oscar (28:45)

People. Yeah. I remember Chrissy Teigen. I think that's kind of why she Had a. Like, her tweets about Courtney Stodden resurface a few years ago because Christy Tinga was kind of everywhere. And then, like, she had brand deals with everyone. Then those tweets resurfaced. I think she was. I think she said, told the court, like, she tweeted to Courtney. It's like, unalive herself and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (29:05)

Like, something like, she would look good six feet under or something crazy. Yeah.

Oscar (29:09)

And then she kind of, like, had a died go low key after that.

Trisha Paytas (29:14)

Yeah, that's right. Which is, like, in a way, good, because I don't. I think, like, people just dog piled on her so much, and she was like. She was 16.

Oscar (29:21)

I mean, we always talk about it, though. But that is such a sign of the times because, like, I mean, what year were they? Was it like, 2016?

Trisha Paytas (29:30)

Yeah, no, it was 2011 to 2020 was when they were married. So, like, 2010.

Oscar (29:34)

And that is, like, peak time of, like. Like, with tabloids. Like, like you said, it's like, not a scandal. It's like a genuine, like, you know, she's getting groomed.

Trisha Paytas (29:44)

Yes.

Oscar (29:44)

But it turned into a scandal. And then she was. Because she's, like, a blonde, like, playing into, like, the bimbofied caricature. Like, no one took her seriously. And she was just, like, you know, dragged to the mud. When she was a teenager.

Trisha Paytas (29:56)

Yeah, a teenager. And, like.

Oscar (29:58)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (29:58)

Just saying awful about her appearance. Her boobs. I think she was on the doctors or something. People were, like, analyzing her boobs. Like, all these, like, doctors were like, oh, they're fake. They're, like, just insane. And I was like, oh, my God, this is like an actual child. And, like, no one. Like, no one stepped in to be like, are you okay? Like, you know, even, like. And Billy Bush did a good job, but even other interviewers, it's like, wouldn't you be like, are you okay? Like, the way she was, you know, he was dressing her or she was dressing herself or whatever. I was just like, damn. Like, no one saw that. That being, like. It's kind of odd.

Oscar (30:28)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (30:29)

He did get dropped, I guess, from everything. I guess. Like, his family stopped talking to him. Like in the movie they showed. Like, his brother stopped talking to him. His agents dropped him. So, I mean, I guess he did get somewhat canceled, as he probably should, because the main person is, besides the parent, signing over, which is, I think, yes, to blame, too. But Doug being 51.

Oscar (30:49)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (30:50)

And they made him very creepy. He kept calling her Stargirl. And I was like, he's like, oh, my little star girl. And then she was pregnant and I was like, we're gonna have a Stargirl baby. I was like. Like, I don't know. Shout out. Kudos to the actor who played him. But it was. It was good. That was our weekend. What was it on Lifetime?

Oscar (31:05)

Oh, okay.

Trisha Paytas (31:06)

It felt very light. I didn't know it was Lifetime until the end. And then I was like, yeah, of course it was. And. But it felt very like. I love a Lifetime movie.

Oscar (31:11)

Me too.

Trisha Paytas (31:12)

Do you?

Oscar (31:12)

I haven't washed them in a while, but I even had. It was like the Lifetime movie, like, streaming platform or whatever. Because I loved to, like, just binge watch Lifetime.

Trisha Paytas (31:22)

Wait, I didn't know this about you. Do you have any that come to mind? Because I love Lifetime, especially as a kid. I loved Lifetime.

Oscar (31:25)

There was. What was the last one I saw? God, I remember the one where she was like, the pregnancy pact. I remember.

Trisha Paytas (31:34)

Oh, yes, yes.

Oscar (31:35)

I love a lot of high school themed ones. The last one I saw, I want to say Garcelle Bouleau was in it, I think from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Trisha Paytas (31:45)

Yes.

Oscar (31:46)

But that was a while ago. A few years ago, me and my friend Rebecca, we would, like, get together and we would have Lifetime movie parties.

Trisha Paytas (31:53)

Wait, really? Like, as an adult or as a teenager?

Oscar (31:56)

A couple years ago. So pretty. From, like, high school. We would do it pretty frequently from, like, high school until, like. Yeah, adulthood.

Trisha Paytas (32:01)

I would love a Patreon. Just reviewing Lifetime movies.

Oscar (32:04)

They really slide because they're pretty short.

Trisha Paytas (32:05)

They're like 90 minutes, you know?

Oscar (32:06)

Yeah. And they're good plot, twists, plot.

Trisha Paytas (32:09)

That's why I was obsessed. Like. Like, I used to watch the ones with, like, Candace Cameron Bure. Did you ever see that one with her and Fred Savage? It was like she was a cheerleader and he ended up, like, unaliving her in the movie. I watched a lot of cheerleader unalivings. Tori Spelling was one where she was a cheerleader and she was unalived.

Oscar (32:23)

God, no, I. No, I think I would remember. I have seen a lot of cheerleader ones, though.

Trisha Paytas (32:28)

Yeah, I watched all the cheerleader ones, all the high school ones. All the Richard Grieco ones were like, someone's like. Like. I watched all of those so much. I, like, loved. What was the other one? There was one recently. It was Lilisa Rinna, where she's the mom that was harassing her daughter. It's the one that the Unknown number was based off of. That one just came out. My goal in life, new goal. Because I feel like I'm accomplishing a lot of my goals. New goal in life is doing a Lifetime movie. I love Lifetime movies, and this one was really good. It was produced by Courtney Stoddard instead of Courtney Stodden production. I was like, period. I'm gonna just have to produce my own. But it was so good. I love A Lifetime.

Moses (33:02)

Was the one about the Johnny Depp trial? Lifetime or not?

Trisha Paytas (33:05)

No, that was to be. Did you ever watch that one?

Oscar (33:08)

No, I'm sorry.

Trisha Paytas (33:08)

They put it out within, like, a month of the trials. That one was so weird. It was just. They hired actors to play Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, and it was the weirdest. Love to be, but, like, what we downloaded to be just to watch that movie. And that was. That was painful, as most Lifetime movies are. But this was a Tubi original. But, yeah, that was our weekend. How about you?

Oscar (33:32)

I was boring. I mean, I had, like. I work on Saturdays, and it was Selena and Benny's wedding. So I was on, like, watch my whole shift gift for when they would, like, post about it and, you know, post the photos. And, like, so literally, I was scared to, like, leave my computer in case that happens. So usually I can, like, you know, clean or something and come back and look, but I was so afraid of missing them announcing it. That was just, like, there, dude. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (33:57)

She felt like you were there at the wedding. You're like, I'm a part of this. That's fun. What a fun job.

Oscar (34:05)

I would have say it felt like a bar. I mean, kinda, I guess, like, you're breaking it.

Trisha Paytas (34:10)

Who broke it?

Oscar (34:11)

Tmz, probably Selena posted herself. But I don't know how. I mean, I have. People knew that the wedding was this weekend. I feel like I kind of got out and I think to kind of make it die down, I think people got the heads up that Selena would be the one to post herself, because that's what we were looking for. I don't know, like, we were waiting for, like, Selena to post it herself, which I think is good because, like, there were so many paparazzi. TMZ had helicopters, you know, so it was a lot.

Trisha Paytas (34:39)

Where was it?

Oscar (34:40)

In Santa Barbara?

Trisha Paytas (34:41)

Of course it was. I love a Santa.

Oscar (34:43)

Yeah. And they were. I mean, obviously it's like, Selena Gomez. She's gonna be, like, smart about it. But they had a lot of. I think they spent over $300,000 on security.

Trisha Paytas (34:50)

Wow.

Oscar (34:51)

And everything was completely covered, and. And it was on the edge of a cliff, so no one could, like, you know, climb up and try to get in or anything, because it's the ocean on the other side.

Trisha Paytas (34:59)

Oh, my God.

Oscar (35:00)

It was completely covered. The only paparazzi photos really were just, like, the aerial view. And then they have the guests stay at a hotel, like, off site, and then they would shuttle them to the place, the venue.

Trisha Paytas (35:12)

Do you know where the venue was or is it, like, private?

Oscar (35:15)

I think they said where it was. It was somewhere, like, in. Obviously, like in the hills.

Trisha Paytas (35:20)

It's not like, hotel or something?

Oscar (35:21)

No, they had. They kept them at a hotel and the rehearsal dinner was, like, nearby and stuff. So there was paparazzi photos of, like, guests coming into the hotel or, like, waiting to get shuttled after at the hotel from, like, the rehearsal dinner, but that was it. So just like that Friday before with the rehearsal dinner, that stuff leaked. But other than that, like, there was really no paparazzi photo. There was nothing that leaked from inside and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (35:45)

I saw Taylor Swift's elbow.

Oscar (35:47)

Yeah, they. There was paparazzi photos of Taylor arriving at the, I guess, Santa Barbara Airport or something. But she was, like, covered by umbrellas and. Yeah, just her elbow, like, sticking out.

Trisha Paytas (35:58)

That was the photo someone bought. I'm like, oh, my God.

Oscar (36:01)

People were desperate, I guess. And there was paparazzi photos of, like, the only murders in the building, cast at the rehear, like, waiting to go to the rehearsal.

Trisha Paytas (36:12)

Who's all there? Martin Short, Ste. Martin. Anyone else?

Oscar (36:14)

Paul Rudd. Nothing. I had the full list of celebrities. Taylor Swift, um, only murders, cast. Martin Shorts, Steve Martin, Paul Rudd, and Ashley park work.

Trisha Paytas (36:28)

Ed Sheeran.

Oscar (36:29)

Ed Sheeran was there. Yeah. David Henry from Wizards of Waverly Place. And Jennifer Stone, also from Wizards of Waverly Place. Edgar Ramirez from Amelia Perez. Paris Hilton was there. Julia Michaels, who's a singer songwriter that Selena worked with a lot. Camila Cabello was there. SZA was also there.

Trisha Paytas (36:49)

Wow.

Oscar (36:50)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (36:50)

Oh, my God. Yeah. Why do you think she actually posted or you think someone had her phone?

Oscar (36:58)

Good. My theory is that because she posted, I was off at 4 and then she posted at 4:16. So someone. I was like, waiting the whole time, and then she didn't post. And then 416, I was already out because I was waiting all day to, like, you know, run errands and stuff. So the second I was off, I'm like, okay, I'm leaving. So then someone had to, like, cover.

Trisha Paytas (37:17)

So you waited for nothing.

Oscar (37:18)

It literally waited for nothing. Yeah, because 4:16 is when she posted.

Trisha Paytas (37:21)

Oh, my God, Yes. Time champs.

Oscar (37:23)

Literally, I remembered I was like, like, gone. Like, I was at Were you mad.

Trisha Paytas (37:26)

Or were like, whatever, I'm off the clock.

Oscar (37:27)

I was like kind of relieved because I was a little stressed about it because it was. It's like the royal wedding or something. I was so big.

Trisha Paytas (37:32)

So you had a handoff. Someone started at 4.

Oscar (37:34)

Like someone was like on call after. Just to wait and see. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (37:38)

Crazy.

Moses (37:39)

Of course, if she posted it 10 minutes before you're done, then.

Oscar (37:42)

Yeah, I would have been stuck. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (37:46)

Do you get to clock out then?

Oscar (37:47)

Yeah, I gotta just like sign off at. Right at four.

Trisha Paytas (37:49)

I'm like, okay, doctors on call over there. It's like.

Oscar (37:53)

It is. It is. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (37:54)

That's crazy. It is wild. That is a wild thing.

Oscar (37:57)

I know.

Trisha Paytas (37:57)

Oh my God.

Oscar (37:59)

So yeah, she Posted like at 4:16, I imagine because the like the. Again, like the paparazzi photos going back to that, like the. It was like night time and when they were like taking photos of like the tent and there was lights inside. So I think they. They just posted the photo shoot because also Petra Collins, who has also shot.

Trisha Paytas (38:22)

Yes.

Oscar (38:24)

Photographer. Yeah. And Anna Collins, her sister, who we love, was also there too. But yeah, I imagine that was like earlier. And then they posed like someone just like hit publish or whatever. And then they actually did the ceremony because also like Benny and Selena, they were like had like a house or something. So it wasn't even the wedding venue. That's what I thought.

Trisha Paytas (38:46)

I was like, wow, they marry like a backyard. Which that would have been so cool. Like it was like a little backyard wedding.

Oscar (38:50)

So I think that must have been like, it's a photo shoot.

Trisha Paytas (38:53)

Yeah.

Oscar (38:53)

And they had pressed app to post, I'm assuming.

Trisha Paytas (38:56)

Any details on the ceremony?

Oscar (38:58)

The ceremony was really like small and intimate. Then at the reception, Taylor Swift gave a speech and Ed Sheeran also gave a speech. Iconic Selena's grandpa walked her down the aisle. At the rehearsal dinner. They had Thai food. Me just reciting.

Trisha Paytas (39:18)

I want to know the details. Was it a religious ceremony?

Oscar (39:22)

I don't think.

Trisha Paytas (39:22)

Non denominational.

Oscar (39:24)

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know the religion aspect of it. No.

Trisha Paytas (39:28)

But why do people do religion in weddings? Like we. We didn't have one. But why do people put God in it?

Oscar (39:33)

I don't know. I guess it depends on like your fit. Like some people. I'm. The faith is like a big part of the relationship, I would guess. Or like if you view marriage like as a sacrament, you know, like in the Catholic Church, I think that's a big thing.

Moses (39:45)

But they follow the tradition of their family.

Trisha Paytas (39:48)

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Moses (41:01)

Sounds like you're expected to do it.

Trisha Paytas (41:03)

How come we didn't do it?

Moses (41:05)

I didn't want to.

Trisha Paytas (41:06)

My dad probably wanted us to. He loves being Catholic.

Moses (41:09)

Oh, I wouldn't mind a Catholic wedding.

Trisha Paytas (41:11)

Oh, Jewish. You didn't want to be Jewish? I did. I wanted you to break. You break something. I feel like those are good. I mean, it can't be bad to have a little luck on your side or whatever.

Moses (41:21)

People had the glass up their feet or they. Sometimes if you hit it wrong, it flies out.

Trisha Paytas (41:26)

Like, I wonder if Benny did that because he's. I think he's Jewish, right?

Oscar (41:29)

Oh, I didn't Know that.

Moses (41:30)

I can see him doing that. Like, he leans just for.

Trisha Paytas (41:33)

Just for lockers. I don't know what it's for, but.

Moses (41:36)

But to have a proper Jewish wedding, then you have to convert and all that. And that's why I don't like that stuff. It's like being in a cold. Like, you don't need to convert.

Trisha Paytas (41:44)

Some rabbis these days will probably do it for you.

Moses (41:46)

It's not. Then it's perform. Like it's not.

Trisha Paytas (41:48)

We had a. Like a TV minister. What? Not a minister.

Moses (41:51)

What is it called? He just did on. He was just on reality show. He was a celebrity, but he was.

Trisha Paytas (41:57)

Like a t. Like, you would call Dr. Drew a TV doctor, but he's a doctor. This guy was a TV.

Moses (42:02)

He did celebrities. He did on TV and realty shows.

Trisha Paytas (42:04)

What do you call the people who marry you?

Moses (42:06)

Officiator.

Trisha Paytas (42:07)

Officiator, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, we had a TV officiator. He would do it on tv.

Moses (42:11)

He was very good. He was nice.

Oscar (42:13)

Would you get ordained to, you know, marry?

Trisha Paytas (42:16)

I am ordained.

Oscar (42:17)

Oh, are you really?

Trisha Paytas (42:18)

Because I. I think I've talked about this. Shane and Rylan had asked me to marry them. Oh, yeah, Yeah.

Oscar (42:23)

I forgot about that.

Trisha Paytas (42:24)

Oh, it was such a big honor. I remember in 2020, like, I'm the only one sticking by Shane through everything. And I remember. So, like, I think it was like, on my birthday or something, they came over and I remember they. To hear them, and I, like, started crying. I was like, oh, my God, I get to be a part of this. I was, like, so excited. They were gonna do, like, a carnival wedding. They were gonna do, like, this big thing, and I was, like, so excited. And then I don't know what happened with the carnival theme. I don't know. I guess they just did do it. I don't know. I don't know what happened. But then, yeah, then I was. Then I just never heard back from them. But I did get. I break all the paperwork. I would show them. I was like, wow, I got ordained. I have all the. I don't know how long it lasts. I don't know if it's forever, but I am ordained to marry.

Oscar (43:00)

I think you have to renew it or something, because I know Elijah Daniel also got ordained, and he talks about, like, getting it renewed on Instagram every now and then.

Trisha Paytas (43:08)

It's very simple.

Oscar (43:09)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (43:09)

Why you would be married.

Oscar (43:11)

You would be, like, kind of everything. I think you would have to be the performer, the minister.

Trisha Paytas (43:17)

I would be so honored. 1. We don't get invited to Any weddings. Two. Obviously, officiating someone's wedding is like. I think that was, like. That's why I, like, cried. That's like, the, like, highest honor, I feel like, to marry someone.

Oscar (43:28)

Yeah. Because you're really in that wedding.

Trisha Paytas (43:29)

You're really in it. You're really a part of it forever.

Moses (43:32)

Like, you forever.

Trisha Paytas (43:33)

Yeah. And I would be the one. I'd be an officiator to. To back out of the shot. I hate when they're, like, in the. Ours was so good because being on tv, he knew to, like. As soon as they say, you may now kiss the bride, like, he knew to, like, get out of that shot. Because I've seen so many on TikTok, so many pictures where, like, the person's just standing there, like, like, looking at them kissing, and I'm like, get out of the shot. We want to see just them kissing. So I would get out of the shot. I would know when to get out, and then. Yeah, go change in my performance, get my dancers, and we'll be out filming freaky in 15 minutes. Around. Yeah. You take your photos and then. Yeah, I'm down. I would. I'd be honored. Are you asking me? I'll do it.

Oscar (44:04)

Yeah. Flower girl as well, I guess. Me, Malibu and Elvis. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (44:08)

Oh, you have so many. Cuz you have all your nephews too, and stuff like that.

Oscar (44:11)

True. I guess they'd be the little ring bears or something. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (44:15)

Oh, that'd be adorable. All of them. Yes. Okay. We're planning it. It's happening. Get sponsored by Kodak. Protein pancakes and milk.

Oscar (44:24)

In case anyone gets hit at the hotel or something. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (44:27)

Would you do a sponsored wedding?

Oscar (44:30)

Maybe they're expensive.

Trisha Paytas (44:31)

They are expensive. Yeah. I don't think. What. We're gonna have Michael in a second. But she's talking about. How was she or someone else? Nobody. Oh, Tiana was talking about her engagement ring and that if Makoa was offered, like, a brand deal for her engagement, she's like, yeah, take it.

Oscar (44:44)

Like, yeah, why not?

Trisha Paytas (44:45)

Yeah. That's like money. Like, I feel the same way. I feel like if someone had offered us, like, a free ring, I'd be like, yeah, I think Michaela got her upgraded ring for free. And I was like, honestly, a diamond's a diamond.

Oscar (44:55)

And with me, I. Sorry, Mikaela. So many strays there. But then for a wedding, she had her big collab.

Trisha Paytas (45:00)

Elf cosmetics.

Oscar (45:01)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (45:02)

Yes. Before the Matt Rife scandal.

Oscar (45:04)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (45:06)

There was the Makila.

Moses (45:07)

Just put it out there. As your wedding planner, it's gonna be On a boat while the whales are present for your wedding.

Trisha Paytas (45:14)

Are you planning?

Moses (45:16)

Yeah, Because I think it's not gonna be that expensive to rent the boat.

Oscar (45:19)

Yeah. Okay.

Moses (45:20)

You can get all your friends and family and the whales are gonna show up. Right.

Trisha Paytas (45:22)

It.

Moses (45:22)

Oh, can you imagine the pictures, you guys? And they're behind. You're breaching in the water.

Oscar (45:27)

Darian can't swim, though. That's the only thing. But we'll have to have.

Moses (45:29)

We're not jumping in the water.

Oscar (45:32)

I guess.

Trisha Paytas (45:32)

Does he not go on a boat?

Oscar (45:33)

He goes on a boat. Yeah, but.

Trisha Paytas (45:35)

Life jacket.

Oscar (45:37)

We are prepped. Like, he, you know, he's the one that actually has to listen when they, you know, they give the safety regulations about, like, how to, you know, you pull the strap and all that. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (45:46)

Do you think, though, if he did fall overboard, he wouldn't just know how to swim naturally, like, you just. Just start kicking in?

Oscar (45:51)

He would try. He just thinks he's a sinker.

Trisha Paytas (45:53)

You did talk about this before.

Oscar (45:54)

He's a big sinker.

Moses (45:55)

It's all the protein.

Oscar (45:57)

Yeah. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (45:59)

I wonder. I wonder if he should take some swim classes.

Moses (46:02)

It's scary.

Oscar (46:04)

I know. I tell him that all the time, just in case.

Trisha Paytas (46:07)

Yeah, that's, like, always on the forefront of my mind. With our kids, I'm just like. Like as. Like, just swim classes all the time. They move very slow. We have them in some classes. They're just, you know, I'm like, when are they going to actually get to swim? You know what I mean? Like, they kind of just dunk their heads right now, which is good, but can you duck his head underwater?

Oscar (46:22)

Yeah, he trot. Like, he. You know when you push yourself from one side, like, you kick off from, like, one side of the pool to the other.

Trisha Paytas (46:29)

Yeah.

Oscar (46:30)

With, like, the momentum. He can do that, but if he loses momentum, he just goes to the bottom.

Trisha Paytas (46:34)

Oh, interesting. You guys are always on tropical vacations, like Hawaii and stuff. I feel like you would learn to swim in some capacity and.

Oscar (46:40)

No, no, no. He should. Well, he'll be in Malibu some class next year.

Trisha Paytas (46:46)

I was like, maybe we should do that for Patreon. Get a swim instructor, teach people how to swim. Because teaching is harder. We hired a teacher to come over here, and it's like, yeah, teaching is just such a different beast to itself.

Oscar (46:57)

But I'm kind of just do it.

Trisha Paytas (47:00)

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I feel like it would be just so natural. It's like, I do not recommend this, but I heard people, like, throw, like, dogs in the pool. And that's how they teach a. I heard people do with their babies. Throw the baby in.

Oscar (47:10)

I was thrown in.

Trisha Paytas (47:11)

How old?

Oscar (47:15)

God, Maybe like five or six.

Trisha Paytas (47:20)

Wow.

Oscar (47:20)

I have the memory of being thrown.

Trisha Paytas (47:22)

In and you just learned you didn't know how to swim prior.

Oscar (47:25)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (47:27)

Did anyone come get you or you literally saved yourself.

Oscar (47:30)

I mean, there are people around. I mean, but also, that's. Growing up with brothers. Like, they were in charge of me. So they threw you in. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (47:37)

They save you then, too?

Oscar (47:38)

I think I saved myself.

Trisha Paytas (47:41)

Wow.

Oscar (47:42)

Then I would just, like, make my way to the. My pool also, like, isn't very big, so. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (47:48)

You're okay. I. There was such. There was a story pertaining to you on TikTok. I almost sent it to you, and I was like, wait, I didn't ask Oscar's opinion. There was a mom coming under fire on TikTok for. She was talking about how she has two step kids and. And one biological kid with, like, she's married and they have one biological kid, and then she has two step kids from her husband's previous marriage, but she gave the biggest room to her biological kid, and the step kids had to have the smaller rooms even though they were older. Oh, and people were divided in the comments. So before you even say anything, people were very.

Oscar (48:21)

Ours was done by age. My mom. Yeah. Like, oh. As the oldest one got his own room, and then when that one moved out, the second oldest got that room. And then me move. And my brother that's closest to me, we shared a room until he was. There was space for him to get his own room.

Trisha Paytas (48:38)

Oh, so they did not give it to you just because you were.

Oscar (48:40)

No. No favoritism. It was by age.

Trisha Paytas (48:42)

Wow. Okay. That's kind of what I would think. I'm not in that situation. I didn't know. But some of the comments were that same way. But then some of the comments were on her side and being like. The way she explained it was, they're all my kids. I love them all. But Shay, my biological daughter, only has this one house, whereas the older kids have two houses. So all her things have to fit into this big room.

Oscar (49:01)

Mm. And how often were they, like, was it every other week or.

Trisha Paytas (49:07)

She did specify, but it was just like they split time.

Oscar (49:10)

My brothers were predominantly in our house. Like, even my brothers on my. From my dad's side. Yeah. They were mostly our. Until they were old enough to move out on their own.

Trisha Paytas (49:20)

Who's the oldest from your mom or your dad?

Oscar (49:22)

My dad.

Trisha Paytas (49:23)

Oh, Interesting. So he was there a lot of the time. Most of the time. At your house?

Oscar (49:26)

Yeah. They're pretty. They weren't, like, we didn't overlap that much, though, because they were, like, they were a lot older. So they moved out on their own, like, by the time I was, like, six.

Trisha Paytas (49:37)

Okay, so you didn't care about, like, a bigger room or something?

Oscar (49:39)

Yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (49:40)

I was kind of surprised. I was surprised at how many people were like, no, absolutely. That makes sense. Like, she needs all her things in one big room. And then the other people were like, wow. Like, wait, I'll just, like, punish the other kids. Because she. And her tone was kind of a little, like, a little nasty. She was just like, well, you know, sorry. Like, her and her dad. We're still together. Your parents aren't like, you know, you get. You have to.

Oscar (49:57)

I feel like people be sharing a little bit too much online music.

Trisha Paytas (50:00)

I think that's the takeaway. I agree. Especially when they're not, like, influencers or lifestyle.

Oscar (50:05)

It's like, why.

Trisha Paytas (50:08)

Yeah. You know, like, that's what's scary about this world. People who think they're just so right, that they're just, like, eating that they're in the right. And then it's like, oh, like you said, why are you sharing all this? Like, why do we need to know People just. You're right. Because why?

Oscar (50:20)

It's so odd.

Trisha Paytas (50:21)

I wonder why.

Oscar (50:22)

Randomly do divulge that.

Trisha Paytas (50:24)

And it was popular. Had like, you know, a couple hundred thousand comments on it.

Oscar (50:27)

So weird.

Trisha Paytas (50:28)

Yeah.

Oscar (50:30)

Oh, with Selena's wedding, the caveat. There was like one or two hours after Selena posted Justin Bieber posted on his Instagram. It was just like he posted a lot of photos from him at a basketball game from a. A day or two before. But he used his song I do as the audio.

Trisha Paytas (50:51)

No.

Oscar (50:52)

So. Oh, no. Yeah. And it was like. It was after Selena had just, you know, did her post and then.

Trisha Paytas (50:59)

Oh, no.

Oscar (51:00)

To play devil's advocate, though, Justin has been posting, like, he put, you know, he's frequent on Instagram. He's a photo dumper. Multiple times a day. He had. And he was using in the same day on the 27th, the day of Selena's wedding. Like, he was posting a lot from this basketball game. And he was using different audios from his album. There's that.

Trisha Paytas (51:18)

That.

Oscar (51:19)

And he's used that audio before.

Trisha Paytas (51:21)

It's a new song. I do.

Oscar (51:23)

Yes. Off his new album. And it's about him and Haley.

Trisha Paytas (51:27)

Okay.

Oscar (51:29)

Their marriage. But then there was also. There's also the incident after they, Selena and Benny got engaged. I don't know if you remember, but he posted like, a random meme on his Instagram story of Gollum from Lord of the Rings. And it was like, girls after they get engaged, and it was like them holding engagement ring.

Trisha Paytas (51:46)

So that's hard to like, it's hard.

Oscar (51:49)

To play anything but two coincidences. I'm like, well, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (51:53)

Oh, my God, how sad. Cause I was gonna say how sad is it to be celebrities that people, like, everything is about their exes, but, like, damn.

Oscar (51:59)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (52:00)

Wrong time to post. Although I guess there's a. Like, a slight chance. And it's happened to me sometimes, too, where, like, something is talked about and you post something that has nothing to do with it, but it seems like it is. And people are like, oh, she posted about this so much about that. But like you said, twice.

Oscar (52:12)

Twice just is a little, like, girl.

Trisha Paytas (52:15)

It'S the biggest news ever. Like, everybody talks about it.

Oscar (52:18)

Yeah, it's been. It was all especially, like, knowing when the date of their wedding was, and then the fact that, like, not saying he can't post anything on new the 27th, but the fact that it was like, I do right after, like, an hour or two after Selena had posted.

Trisha Paytas (52:31)

Yeah.

Oscar (52:31)

Like, if it was before, maybe, you know, like.

Trisha Paytas (52:34)

And does he post a lot on his story? This was a feeder story.

Oscar (52:37)

This was a feed post. A hard post. Yeah. And he posted a lot that day on the 27th from this basketball game. But the audio, I was like, maybe just pick a different.

Trisha Paytas (52:47)

Yeah, you should have done something new, like, fresh, like cooking with Haley or something. You know what I mean? Like, doing something that's new content that people couldn't have clocked that it was two days earlier. Yeah.

Oscar (52:57)

Because the game wasn't that day. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (53:00)

So why did you post it that day? Oh, Justin.

Oscar (53:03)

I was like, oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (53:06)

Yikes. You think he loves her?

Oscar (53:11)

I don't think he still loves her, but I think this is, again, just me totally speculating, projecting. I feel like he must somehow still, like, a little bit of, like, control over her or something, don't you think? I think he still likes to be intertwined in that narrative. Again, this is just me thinking because it was like, the two times in a row, you know, and like, like, he's, like, had random, like, Instagram posts where, like, there is, like, a. Like, he'll post throwback photos in, like, a photo dump, but it's like, a photo where he was out with Selena, but Selena's like, not in the photo, you know, but fans know, like, oh, you're out with Selena that day. So there's so many, like, little things that, like, bring him back. And obviously, Haley was so intertwined with Selena with their, like, Tik Tok feud and stuff for so long that I'm like. Especially after, like, Haley has such a public, like, you know, thing where, like, she was literally talking about Selena, like, call her daddy and stuff. You would think you would just avoid.

Trisha Paytas (54:05)

Yeah, I just. Oh, it's, like, so sad. Makes me sad, too, because it's like, is that gonna be every major life event that happens? Like, she gets pregnant and then he's gonna post something to take it. Like, like you said, to be intertwined, to intertwine yourself with somebody that, like, doesn't want that. Like, Casalina doesn't talk about them. Right. She never mentions Justin or Haley after.

Oscar (54:22)

Like, when the feud with, like, Haley was going so viral on Tick Tock, she did post on her Instagram story that she reached out to Haley Bieber and they, like, like, don't. She doesn't want any of her fans to, like, oh, give Haley hate. So, like, she said that was the time. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (54:36)

The one acknowledgment. So she's probably just like, damn.

Oscar (54:38)

Yeah. Never Justin, though. It was just Haley. Oh, okay.

Trisha Paytas (54:40)

Okay, okay. So, yeah, it's like, stop. Stop putting yourself in my narrative. You know, it's like, we have done you. Yes. We were a couple. They were kids, by the way. Like, I. I don't remember them as a couple, but I would look up pictures and, like, he has the swooped hair.

Oscar (54:53)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (54:53)

She looks like a baby.

Oscar (54:54)

Like, she looks like on, I think Disney.

Trisha Paytas (54:56)

So they were, like, 16 when they were dating.

Oscar (54:58)

They were dating when they were teenagers. They did get back. Back together. God, I think maybe 2017.

Trisha Paytas (55:04)

As adults.

Oscar (55:05)

As adults, yeah. Like a short, like, kind of rebound thing. And then he got with Haley after that.

Trisha Paytas (55:12)

But was she with the weekend in between there?

Oscar (55:14)

I think so, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (55:15)

Which is so wild. Like, I guess they're both from Toronto. I was like, Justin Bieber did, like, the weekend. Like, what a different, like, contrast you with. I guess they're both musicians from Toronto, but still, it's kind of like, I don't know. The Weeknd just seems so sexual to me. And Justin Bieber seems so, like, innocent. I don't know. Am I wrong?

Oscar (55:30)

Maybe I was like, sexy era Justin Bieber. Yeah. With if I was Boy. Like, he sexified himself, and then he did that Calvin Klein, like, underwear shoot. Like, Once he became like an adult, I feel like as every child or free. A lot of child stars, do they do that, like sexualization of themselves, but.

Trisha Paytas (55:47)

But not too free. He's not like a freak freak or maybe. Yes.

Oscar (55:52)

I don't know. I'm also not a believer like that, so I don't know his lore too deep, but he was pretty sexual. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (55:58)

I think of like the weekend be like, I want to lick it from the front to the, like, you know, just being so psych. But maybe, I don't know, maybe. Maybe they're both freaks. Maybe Selena is a secret freak. Could you mad? Maybe. I don't know. It's so funny. I guess they're like. It's so crazy to think they're all in their 30s, right?

Oscar (56:15)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (56:15)

Lena's my age and Justin Bieber, he's.

Oscar (56:18)

A little bit younger, I think.

Trisha Paytas (56:19)

Oh, really?

Oscar (56:21)

He's 31. He was born in 94, she's 92. So.

Trisha Paytas (56:24)

Wow, that's wild. It's wild because they all seem like kids because I guess I just like think of them as being kids when they came out.

Oscar (56:32)

They seem like kids still same. And then I see like, the roundup of like, Disney or like stars from, like our childhood being, like, married or I guess divorced, but, like, because there was like a photo, like a carousel. It was like Ariana, Miley, Demi, now Selena, Zendaya's engaged. All our child stars are going up.

Trisha Paytas (56:54)

So. Yeah. It's so crazy. And someone older than you, like, it's so crazy to see. It's like, oh, my gosh. What do you mean they're having babies? It's just like, so weird because they don't see I don't seem old enough. And then you're like, oh, you really don't seem old enough. And then you're like, oh, no, they are. They're like 30s.

Oscar (57:06)

Like it is a normal age.

Trisha Paytas (57:08)

Yeah. See, Hailey Bieber has fuzzy lipsticks.

Oscar (57:12)

Did you hear this Road?

Trisha Paytas (57:14)

Yes. I saw Jaclyn Hill on the full coverage. Is that what they're called? On the podcast. And she was saying, I guess they're not hairy, they're bubbly. Like hers was.

Oscar (57:24)

Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (57:25)

She said Tay Lautner, the female Taylor Lautner of the Taylor Lautner duo, had road lipstick or something. And she goes, oh, my gosh, look, every time I see this, I think of you. And they put it up all the way. And it was all bubbles. It was all whatever. And she goes, no one said anything about that. And I was like, that is actually so Tea.

Oscar (57:42)

That is tea.

Trisha Paytas (57:43)

Yeah. Because that's what she got canceled for, obviously, was her bubbly makeup.

Oscar (57:47)

Well, I think Jacqueline's not to have Jaclyn Hill getting catch any strays, but I feel like Jacqueline's biggest offense was the fact that they were, like, hairy or fuzzy, whatever she wants to say. And then the bubbles were, like, double homicide.

Trisha Paytas (58:02)

Oh, I see. So they weren't as big of a deal as the.

Oscar (58:04)

I think if it was just bubbly, people would have still, like, given her some crap. Because it's Jaclyn Hill.

Trisha Paytas (58:09)

Right.

Oscar (58:09)

You know, But I think the biggest sin was that they were, like, fuzzy and melting and the bubbly, like, you know, it was just, like, so many things.

Trisha Paytas (58:16)

Yeah, yeah. People just coming.

Oscar (58:18)

Yeah. Because the bubbles. As far as we reacted to Jacqueline's apology about the lipsticks on Patreon, so that's why it's kind of like at the top of my head. The bubbles were, like, the last thing Jacqueline mentioned in her apology for the.

Moses (58:30)

The.

Oscar (58:30)

For the lipsticks. And it sounded like the most normal thing that happens, like, in the formulation, you know, when it cools down, whatever. Like, obviously you're gonna get a couple air bubbles. But with Jacqueline, it was like, damn, how did these fuzzy gloves get in. In the mixer, and there was, like, all these hairs, and then they were melting in the delivery. It was like. Like, the first lipsticks that were ever invented is kind of what.

Trisha Paytas (58:51)

It felt that way, or. It felt like sabotage, I feel like, because it was a popular factory where, like, other man cosmetics were made, and I'm like. Only hers was like, she. They had fresh white gloves cleaning out the vats, and I'm like, what do you mean? Like, that's so weird.

Oscar (59:05)

No, it's. I hope there was, like, a real investigation, because. What do you mean? Like, it. A factory that's been around, that's done a lot of big brands, I think Colourpop and Kylie Cosmetics. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (59:15)

Yes, yes. Sabotage.

Oscar (59:17)

Suddenly, all of a sudden, they're using new gloves that, like, are shedding little fibers and fuzzies. Like, what?

Trisha Paytas (59:24)

I know. No, you're right. They should have. We need her on.

Oscar (59:26)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (59:27)

I reach out to her people. She gave me their contacts. Like, here's this contact, and I really want her on. I really need to know. I feel like she's more open and talking about it these days. Just seems. I don't know her financial status, but, I mean, she seems, like, very just rich. Like, she doesn't seem to be making, like, content on the regular or, like, getting sponsorships. But she just is living, like, lavish life in, like, a family fancy house. And I was like, damn, she must have made a ton of money.

Moses (59:47)

She.

Oscar (59:47)

I mean, she was the Morphe queen.

Trisha Paytas (59:49)

That's what she was saying on this podcast. She goes, well, I didn't make a bunch of money from, like, Morphe.

Oscar (59:53)

She was the Morphe queen. Yeah. Before James Charles Jeffries, anyone was making Morphe money. It was Jacqueline Hill was making that Morphe.

Trisha Paytas (60:01)

She should bring Morphe back. It does suck. I feel for her to be like, that's your whole brand. And then like, the one thing you put. It's like, if I put out, like, you know, a fast food restaurant and gave everyone food poisoning, and it's like, well, or it tastes like or something, you know, it's like, what the hell are these things? You know, like chicken fingers that are, like, just dry. Although I do love a dry chicken finger, so that could be real. But yeah, that is. I feel for her, but she seems to be, like, living her best life and thriving. Who do you think gets more hate? Jaclyn Hill in her prime or Michaela on Tick Tock today?

Oscar (60:33)

I kind of think Michaela. I think people are also, like, angrier now and, like, more easier to go off because of, like, how Tik Tok is.

Trisha Paytas (60:43)

Wait, really?

Oscar (60:43)

I kind of think so. I think Tik Tok makes it easier because people can also, like, respond with their own videos and stuff too. So I feel like it's easier for things to, like, spread because of TikTok versus, like, YouTube. There was, like, select, obviously, like, drama channels or commentary channels and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (61:00)

Oh, that's a good point.

Oscar (61:01)

But now with Tik Tok, like, anyone can be a commentator or, like, drama something, so I think it's easier.

Trisha Paytas (61:07)

Yeah.

Oscar (61:07)

And I also think Michaela rage baits a lot more than Jacqueline. I think Jacqueline, like, set herself up because. Because she, like, wasn't thinking things fully all the time. But I think Michaela does rage, baby.

Trisha Paytas (61:16)

You think so? So is rage made the new, like, trolling? Is that what it means?

Oscar (61:20)

I think so, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (61:21)

You said it earlier too, that the cutting and I was just like, oh. Because I see rageway everywhere. Like, oh, is she rage rate? And I'm like, I didn't know that was. So it's just like trolling, like, getting a reaction out of people.

Oscar (61:29)

I think it's doing, like, doing something that, you know, will incite a lot of conversation, like, you know. Yeah, because it's. The comments are such a huge part of engagement. Like, that's why a lot of people say, like, even if you leave a hate comment, whatever, because it's just pushing the video up, you know?

Trisha Paytas (61:46)

So interesting.

Oscar (61:47)

Yeah. So comments are such a big part of the algorithm. So as if something is engaged with a lot. Even if it's on the negative side, that still like helps you.

Trisha Paytas (61:55)

Oh my God.

Oscar (61:57)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (61:58)

We got things in the cooler for our steak today. I gotta think of something. Like, what can we do?

Moses (62:03)

You don't need to think about it. I think it just naturally happens.

Trisha Paytas (62:06)

That is true. That's true. I know I do. It is funny. Like Rebecca Zamola always does this like. Like she does like a dance or something and then her husband will like appear in the background in a mask and then disappear. And then people are like, oh my God, who wasn't that in the mask? Or something like that. I guess you're right. I guess the comments probably. So you think Michaela rage baits on purpose? Sometimes.

Oscar (62:23)

Not all the time. I think sometimes. Like, I think when she said you tried being influencer for a day, she was genuine. I think she is genuine a lot. But I do also think she raised but because after like the. The. I feel like after like the mascara gate or whatever, like she was referencing it and stuff too. And I think she knew it would get people to comment about the, you know, mascara or whatever, you know.

Trisha Paytas (62:43)

But you think that one was not rage bait? Like do you think her. I just call it trolling some old. But like trolling the mascara. She popped a lash on for the comet. Allegedly.

Oscar (62:54)

I see. I still don't know about that because like would the brand.

Moses (62:58)

It was just the bad ad.

Oscar (63:00)

Yeah.

Moses (63:00)

They just thought nobody better because everyone bought it.

Oscar (63:04)

Because for that I'm like, well, she was gonna get paid either way. Right. So really didn't matter if it got more views or went more viral versus like her own thing. Maybe.

Trisha Paytas (63:11)

Sometimes they say if it gets turned 50, 000, we'll give you a bonus.

Oscar (63:13)

Oh, T. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (63:14)

I don't know.

Oscar (63:16)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (63:16)

But probably not.

Oscar (63:18)

Yeah, I mean, you can tell I guess with like her luxury haul, for example.

Trisha Paytas (63:21)

Yes.

Oscar (63:22)

She went on tick tock and just sitting a full several part series about all the expensive things.

Trisha Paytas (63:29)

160,000. Someone calculated.

Oscar (63:31)

Yeah. Shout out to. It's Jose Zarate on. Because he like sat there and like calculated the full price breakdown of everything.

Trisha Paytas (63:41)

I loved his TikTok, which is like this. This much. This much. I was like, ah, crazy.

Oscar (63:46)

Yeah. And he calculated, oh wait, it's more. It's he calculated at $186,000 and 300. $186,000? Yeah.

Moses (63:57)

That whole one shopping spree or is there.

Trisha Paytas (64:00)

I mean, it looked that way. Maybe she got over the course of a month. And I mean, I'm hoping the most I ever did, I think, was 30,001. And that's like, crazy because I literally, like, went broke. But, like, I accumulated it over a month. And then I was like, look at this big haul. I'm hoping that's what she did because it's putting 186,001 shopping. And it's like, okay, first, do you think it's rage bait or not? You think it was just, like, showing stuff Looks it.

Oscar (64:21)

I think she knew it was gonna cause commotion a. Because she looks so like. And I think she knew. She was like, oh, I look and I'm gonna get the people talking. Yeah. I think she wanted to get the girl song again. This is just me projecting or speculating, but she looks really good. And then last week, she just had her whole thing where she was crying about, like, people making fun of her for looking, like, ugly or whatever. And she looks really good in this. I think she was knew that she was eating. She's like, let me get the girls talking.

Trisha Paytas (64:49)

Let me gag.

Oscar (64:50)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (64:50)

Back in the day when I would do troll or rage baiting, whatever you want to call it these days, I remember I had like a voice. Like, there was like a rage bait voice that I would use. And that's how you knew I was like, trolling versus not. And I was like, oh, no, clearly my voice is, like, higher. Like, I love this because this, like, that's like a. So maybe that's like her. Yeah, like, she's like, I'm presenting.

Oscar (65:06)

Yeah. There is a level of presenting as a, like, almost like an alter ego or something, I guess. Yeah. So that's what it gave me. And also, it's like, I feel like everyone kind of knows in this day and age. It's like this kind of over consumption. I'm scared to post my boo boo, you know? Like, I'm like, damn, people are gonna be mad at me for buying an extra labu today. And she's out here buying $186,000 of designer clothes. Like, she. You have to know, because I know, and I am like a person working 80 hours a week, you know? So it's like, yeah, she has to know.

Trisha Paytas (65:42)

Wow, that's kind of wild then. Yeah. Yeah. Look, it was very divided that I saw the comments on this. Like, Very divided. Some people are like, it's her money. Like, let her spend. Don't like it, don't watch. And then other people, of course, just being like, yikes.

Oscar (65:56)

Yeah. Like, and I go. I flip flop too. Like, I go both ways. Like, and I think to. We talked about it before with, like, the halls and stuff. They are little. Like, I think in this climate, you know, with some, like, you know, influencers, it's like a really high payout for not a lot of work. And not saying she doesn't work hard, but like, in comparison to other, you know, jobs and stuff that are more, like, demanding. And so there's like, that element too. But she has worked hard. I know. Like, Ulta and Sephora, I read, were like, like, battling over who's gonna get her brand, you know, so she has, like, products that people like. So she deserves obviously what she has. But yeah, the flaunting and stuff. And then I was thinking, I was really trying to, like, psychoanalyze myself. And I was like, well, I always loved, like, a Trisha hall back in the day, you know, And I was like, it was a different time. I think maybe I was younger too, and it all. It was like, more entertainment value to me versus, like, being older and knowing how much, like, life costs, you know, life costs.

Trisha Paytas (66:59)

And also, like, it's just a different economical time. Not to say it wasn't back then, but just the climate of, like, the world right now, everything going up and people not making like. It's just the job. Everything is.

Oscar (67:10)

Yeah.

Moses (67:10)

Also back then, you didn't see those things as much. So it was. When you saw it, you're like, wow, I didn't even know this existed. You know, it's like me, when I watch supercars, people review supercars or showing their cars. Like, I didn't even know this car existed. And it's so cool. So back then, you didn't know those bags existed. You didn't know how much they cost.

Trisha Paytas (67:28)

That.

Moses (67:29)

I had no idea there were bags that cost so much.

Trisha Paytas (67:31)

Bags. And before, like, Hermes and Birkin. God, what bags were they? Do you know what I'm talking about? They're like the ones that kind of flared out. They're not. Chloe. They were like. You don't remember? Everyone had a bag and it had, like, these little, like, flare outs in, like, 2012. Oh, my God.

Oscar (67:49)

I don't even know how to look it up either.

Moses (67:51)

Oh, but I think she watched Our Lives Last episode where we said that it's not in the Bible, that it's not a sin to buy designer bags. And I think when she saw that, she realized she was like, oh, let me go. I can do it. This is fine. This is not against my religion.

Trisha Paytas (68:08)

Oh, here it is. Mine was. Oh, Celine.

Oscar (68:10)

Oh, I do remember this. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Trisha Paytas (68:15)

Everyone had these. I think mine was fake. I think. I don't know. I don't know for sure. I got it offline. But everyone had those Celine bags. What happened to those Celine bags?

Oscar (68:21)

Good question.

Trisha Paytas (68:22)

They were so expensive.

Oscar (68:23)

Like, style girls had a Celine.

Trisha Paytas (68:25)

Yes. They were, like, literally the bougiest. But yeah, it was. It was different because, like, back then, like, people want. It was like a cut crease, right? Everyone had a cut crease. But, like, if you wear one now, everyone's like, oh, yes. But I think, like, back then, too, it was just like, people loved luxury. They loved, you know, seeing it all. Because we talk about this all the time. Like, even watching the Kardashians, it's just like. I don't know. It just makes you feel bad about yourself. I don't know. You know, because you just. I don't know how to. Yeah, it doesn't feel good. I know Michaela because I feel like I don't know her, but I feel like I know her because I feel like it was like, so much of me is somewhat in her, minus the talent. She's obviously very talented, but I. Yeah, you like, because I think she always talks about that she doesn't come from, like, money, so. Right. So you're like, okay, you made all this money. You get to buy all these cool things. And then you kind of think as an influencer, you're like, you know what? How I thought of it was like, okay, I'm gonna buy all this, but guess what? I get a video out of it, so I'm gonna make some money back. Maybe that's how she's thinking about it is like, you know, and you just get excited, want to show off stuff. The only issues I have, and it's, like, not issues with her. I think in general, showing stuff is, like, one makes you a target, right? Just in general, it's like anything. Like, middle of the day, someone got a Rolex, I think was at a Chevron and Sherman Oaks, got, like, their Rolex, like, stolen from them. You know, they were wearing it, whatever. So they like showing stuff. You're just at a higher risk anyways of, like, someone. I don't know, whatever. And then. Which is, like, sad. But I think that's just, like, the world we live in, too. Yeah. You could, like, make other people feel bad. It's more like, again, not Michaela specifically, but, like, influencers. Just, like, rubbing in the face how much money they make versus someone who's, like, struggling when they work four jobs. My mom was like that. You know, all that stuff like that. And ultimately, I also think, because I see myself in her is like, oh, 186,000 is a lot in one trip. And, like, you could. She could be making a million dollars a month. I'm just saying, like, oh, you're just like. I don't know. It's like it does something to your soul. Obviously, I'm older and, like, you know, you just, like, learn as. She's very young. What is she, like, 24 or something like that? So you just, like, you' young. But, gosh, when you're, like, older, you just look at things a lot differently.

Moses (70:22)

I think this. She's also grew up watching people do those holes.

Trisha Paytas (70:26)

Yeah.

Moses (70:26)

In her mind, probably her dream was, one day, I will be the one doing those holes.

Trisha Paytas (70:30)

Yeah.

Moses (70:31)

So it. It sucks because, like, society changes, things change, but you still have that same dream. I want to do that hole. I want to be that person on screen showing those bags, buying those bags. So for her, I'm sure it's like, a moment, and it's an achievement, and she's doing something she always wanted to do. So it sucks in one way, because the goalpost always moves and society moves, but you're still stuck in the same place where that's the moment.

Trisha Paytas (70:55)

I love showing things off because same thing. It's just like, I can never afford it. And it's like, oh, my God, I get to afford this stuff. And you just feel so cool. So, like, yeah, I totally agree with that.

Moses (71:04)

For her, that's a sign of success. It's like the award. She's showing an Oscar. Like, this is my award. I reached the place that I aspired to be.

Trisha Paytas (71:11)

But it's like also seeing your face in Ulta or buying a big house. Like, everyone already sees your accomplishments, you know, so it's. It's like, yeah, I agree. I get it completely because I was also that person. I was the person who's like, oh, my God, I bought two of the same product. Like, oh, my. Like, you know, like, that is so crazy. And I think it's interesting to me, she gets so much hate, specifically because I do feel like she is that girl that kind of, like, came from nothing. Even her makeup. How she started out is like, she's really had this, like, great globe, and it's, like, fun to watch her. So I'm surprised she had so much hate because she's not like a Nepo, you know, it's not like she, like, came for money or, like an apple baby or anything, as opposed to. There was a woman who just got married. She's an influencer. I forget her name. She just had a big wedding in Italy, and there was, like, rainbow, like, fireworks going off behind her. Like rainbow, like chalk going up behind her. It was like, literally, like a half a billion dollar wedding. And she always shows luxury. Like, she's. She shows. I forget her name, but she shows purses, like, hundreds of thousand dollars worth of purses that she's buying, like, every week. And people love her. They hype her up so much. And she's just an influencer, too. Whatever. But obviously rich, and people love her. And then her wedding was so extravagant. She just got married a couple weeks ago. So extravagant, and no one said anything. It's so. It's so wild. To me, it's like Michaela does get kind of an unfair hate train.

Oscar (72:24)

Becca Bloom. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (72:25)

Yes. And I love her, too. I love watching her stuff. And she's. But maybe because she's a little quieter, maybe she's a little more, like, you know, I. I don't know. I don't know why Michaela gets.

Oscar (72:34)

I think there's also, like, a thing where if you. There's certain influencers that are just more relatable because of how they come up, you know, Because. So I feel like if you were a fan of Michaela from, you know, when she was kind of just, like, how to be, like, scrappier and, you know, it was just making makeup looks out of what she could afford, you know?

Trisha Paytas (72:52)

Yeah.

Oscar (72:53)

You, like, relate to her more, and then now you, like, lose the relatability. Like, there's that, like, trend versus someone with generational wealth who, like, comes on the scene. You already can't relate to them. It's like, okay, well, you already are.

Trisha Paytas (73:03)

That's a good point.

Oscar (73:05)

Yeah.

Moses (73:05)

You don't expect to see anything but wealth and shiny objects.

Trisha Paytas (73:08)

Yeah.

Moses (73:09)

But with her, I was just thinking that to. With her, like, you lose touch. And then also, how do they change as they become wealthy? You know, like, sometimes they change to a place that people don't like them anymore. They're like, because they want to see you succeed, but they want to also see you humble.

Trisha Paytas (73:23)

Right. That's true. That's probably, like, Paris Hilton's appeal. Like, she has that like, humility. She just bought. This is what I heard on a podcast and she. David Dobrik podcast I know. Where was I driving? I was driving by myself. A recording studio. I've been recording music and I was like, where was I driving that? Once again, I'm listening to this by myself. Myself. He went to Paris Hilton's new house for a house party. And I think he said it was a ninety million dollar house.

Oscar (73:47)

Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (73:49)

Like, first of all, okay, and anything that's crazy. But then you think about like, what it takes to run it. Like as Moses always points out to me, I'm always like, I want this house. And then he's always like, okay, but property taxes, what it costs to run the electricity. The water now says, oh yeah, like you can't. Like, like what do you think it costs to even maintain that? Like a hundred, 200,000amonth. 300,000amonth probably.

Oscar (74:06)

Right?

Trisha Paytas (74:06)

Like she probably a staff. And then of course, electric and water and heat and all this. Like, how do you even heat a house that like, that's so insane. Property tax, like, that's so crazy. I didn't know that much money exists. But it doesn't exist, right?

Moses (74:21)

I mean, if you think about the Hilton, you know, corporation and the whole thing, you know, it's billions of dollars.

Trisha Paytas (74:27)

But does the money they can't spend.

Moses (74:29)

They have so much money, they can't spend it.

Trisha Paytas (74:31)

But I guess what I'm asking is like, the money doesn't exist, right? Like that's not real. Like there's not that much money in the world, right? Like, okay, like, right, we're in debt $3 trillion. So, okay, 30 trillion, 300 trillion. What are we? I don't know. We're in debt. So there's just not enough money. Like, right. It's not real money in the banks.

Moses (74:52)

Like you can't withdraw, right? That's. Yeah. The amount of real physical money that exists is only a small percent of what is out there.

Trisha Paytas (75:00)

So that's what's so crazy to me when you think about that. It's just like.

Moses (75:03)

But it's a house of cards. Yeah. I mean, it's an illusion.

Trisha Paytas (75:05)

How come people just like, not that I don't know how to do this. I'm not sorry. How come, like a hacker or something just can't put $90 million in their bank account?

Moses (75:11)

They do and they get caught, but.

Oscar (75:14)

Yeah, it's pretty smart, honestly.

Trisha Paytas (75:16)

They should let them keep it if they're that smart to do that.

Moses (75:19)

I mean, that's what banks do every day. At the end of the day, if.

Trisha Paytas (75:21)

It'S all an illusion, who cares, right?

Moses (75:25)

But you need that illusion in your. On your app, you know, you need to have it.

Trisha Paytas (75:29)

Isn't that such a crazy thing? Wow. Honestly, like we always talk about, I never want get. Like you don't want to get too famous. I don't know if you ever want to get too rich either. I know people who like work with rich people, like really rich people. And it's like they have to be with security all the time and stuff because like, you know, I don't know. I don't know if you want to be that.

Moses (75:45)

You lose a certain amount of freedom in life. Like you don't have the same freedom of movement and you lose a lot and you gain some, you know?

Trisha Paytas (75:52)

Yeah. Because I remember when I did those hauls, when I would do really expensive hauls. I think I was in the Studio City house. I think it's like when I kind of knew you, right? I was buying like Rolexes and Birkins and just literally spending everything. But yeah, I had some issues with people coming to my house and I remember how to hire like a 24 hour security guard because I was just like, oh my God, you can't leave your house. You know what I mean? It's like so. So that alone too. And just jewelry and everything. I don't know. I just.

Moses (76:15)

Right when you have a lot, you have to start protecting it and have your own little army that protects you and what you gain.

Trisha Paytas (76:20)

All I have is a rainbow Birkin that is not worth anything.

Moses (76:24)

Maybe now it is more fun than everything.

Trisha Paytas (76:27)

Yeah, but it's. It's kind of beaten up and has like my thing, it's like carved in there. So if anyone ever takes it.

Oscar (76:32)

You can't. No one could ever like resell it like secretly because.

Moses (76:36)

No.

Oscar (76:36)

The second it's listed somewhere, someone would.

Trisha Paytas (76:38)

No, I know I carved my initials into the leather now because I really don't want anyone. I'm like, just in case, you know, you can't get rid of that. So that's my only valuable object these days. My valuable. What's your most valuable possession?

Oscar (76:52)

Oh, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (76:53)

You don't have to say. I just said for safety reasons. You don't have to say.

Oscar (76:55)

I don't know if I have anything that expensive either.

Trisha Paytas (76:57)

Boo boos.

Oscar (76:59)

I guess. I guess that's it.

Trisha Paytas (77:00)

It's probably worth186,000 year collection. You think you spent that much over time?

Oscar (77:05)

No, no. On the Boo boos.

Trisha Paytas (77:07)

Yeah.

Oscar (77:08)

108.

Trisha Paytas (77:09)

Over time, over years.

Moses (77:10)

A year on the beanie year.

Oscar (77:12)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (77:13)

I don't know. I feel like you're always buying them.

Oscar (77:16)

No, no, there's literally no. Not even. I don't even know if I've spent a thousand on the blue.

Trisha Paytas (77:22)

Oh, okay. So it's fine.

Oscar (77:24)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (77:25)

You always act like you have a problem.

Oscar (77:27)

Well, I mean there for me. Yeah. Because it's like $30 and it's like, damn, you can, you know, spend that somewhere else.

Moses (77:33)

He's probably that his problem is that he wants to set but then it's over. Somebody that can't stop spending is the problem.

Oscar (77:40)

Yeah, it's he. There you go.

Trisha Paytas (77:41)

Like, have you ever bought a Louis Vuitton anything?

Oscar (77:43)

No, never? No.

Trisha Paytas (77:44)

No jewelry, no wallet.

Oscar (77:46)

I mean I bought my mom once because she used to like she had like a Louis Vuitton when we grew up and then she bought like the knockoffs ever since. But then a couple years ago my brothers and I got her like a Louis Vuitton wallet. So we like forces.

Trisha Paytas (78:01)

That's, that's, that's nice.

Oscar (78:03)

Other than that, cuz I, I don't like designer stuff. Really. I have like I was, I was influenced by Shane in the Gucci era and I did get a Gucci like the little Gucci backpack and I think that was like 600.

Trisha Paytas (78:15)

He did love Gucci. You're right. Yeah. Which one was it? The canvas one.

Oscar (78:18)

The canvas, like the black? Yeah. And I got that on like one of those resale sites or whatever and it was like 600 I think. I guess that's the only designer.

Trisha Paytas (78:26)

Wow.

Oscar (78:28)

I have a Gucci wallet. There you go. That was like 200.

Trisha Paytas (78:30)

Gucci was kind of everything. I had a lot of Gucci too. And I sold like all because I'm like this is kind of ugly. Right? Like low key.

Oscar (78:38)

It was the year of the snake and I love snakes.

Trisha Paytas (78:40)

Yeah.

Oscar (78:41)

Oh yeah.

Trisha Paytas (78:41)

Snake wallet.

Oscar (78:42)

The snake wallet.

Trisha Paytas (78:43)

Oh, that is cool. No, I did love that. Yeah, there's certain ones too. Well, I want to say Gucci came out with like a pig collection.

Oscar (78:48)

They did for the year of the pig. I think that was the year after.

Trisha Paytas (78:50)

Yeah, I thought it because it was around the Shane era of pig where he was in a pig. Wow. They really.

Moses (78:56)

Oh, you should look to see if they have snakes now and see here with the snake.

Trisha Paytas (79:00)

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's my Gucci. Go on it. Do a haul. That's actually cool. I think I've seen. Maybe I've Seen your wallet. It's really cool. It's like. It's like a red and blue snake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did love that one.

Oscar (79:10)

Yeah, I got that, but. And I've had that since I got it. So it's held, I guess, six years now, which is.

Trisha Paytas (79:15)

But you're not year of the snake. You just love it.

Oscar (79:16)

You just like snakes symbolism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've had six years in my backpack too, but I don't really use it that much because the backpack is so little that you can't really put in it.

Trisha Paytas (79:26)

Really?

Oscar (79:26)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (79:26)

Oh, you can't feel it.

Oscar (79:28)

It's a small backpack. I remember once I got it and I, like, brought it to work and then I had to carry all my. None of it. Like, I was carrying my laptop, my water bottle, because nothing fit in the backpack.

Trisha Paytas (79:37)

That is, even phones sometimes don't fit in these little purses anymore. Oh, yeah, you're so right.

Oscar (79:42)

So I'm like, oh, what's the point of this?

Trisha Paytas (79:44)

Okay, you know what? She's not too bad. I guess I just like. Like a. Like, I guess when there's too much logo everywhere, like when people wear, like.

Oscar (79:49)

Gucci everything, it does become a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Moses (79:52)

If you have a tracksuit.

Trisha Paytas (79:54)

Yeah, I mean, I guess. You know what? T shirt. Honestly, I probably have some ugly I've worn. For sure.

Oscar (79:58)

For sure.

Trisha Paytas (79:59)

Me being a stylist over here, like, I hate that. I guess it's easier to critique when you don't have. It's like those comedians. There's a comedy festival happening in the Middle East. I don't know too much about this. Do you know anything about this?

Oscar (80:10)

I know they're getting cancel.

Trisha Paytas (80:13)

Yeah. I think it goes very deep. They're over in Saudi.

Oscar (80:16)

I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (80:17)

Yeah, I don't know.

Oscar (80:18)

The political. I genuinely.

Trisha Paytas (80:20)

I kind of know. I don't know if I need to, like, get into detail. I mean, it does sound kind of bad. But the. There's. There's a bunch of comedians that are, like, against it. But I think it was Mark Marin. I don't know. I just heard of these, like, literally today. But Mark Maron was talking about how, like, you know, he wouldn't do it for a bag or whatever. He's also like it, but also wasn't invited. So it's like, it's easier to talk about having morals when you're not invited, basically. I guess people are just like, you know, I don't know. It seems a lot to talk about, but basically we are Mad because they do a lot of bad things over and they're performing for a certain like leader over there and it's like anyways, but like Dave Chappelle's over there and Pete Davidson and Whitney Cummings and Louis CK Bill Burr, like just like the biggest comedians are all going to this festival and they're saying, I think Tim Dillon said they offered him 350, he asked for half a million. They offer him 3, 350. I don't know what's real and what's fake. When he talks sometimes I'm like, is he joking? Is he not? And he said he asked for half a million. They offer him 350. But then they canceled him because he was talking bad about Saudi Arabia or something. So then they cancel. So I don't really know. But yeah, I guess they're all like getting canceled. I guess my whole point of this is like it's easier to talk like Gucci tracksuits when we can't afford a Gucci tracksuit over here. You know, like those are so ugly. But it's kind of. But people have said that too. What did else I read where people are like, like, God, it was something. I don't know what it was about, but like something with rich people like dying doing something only rich people can do and like, oh, thank goodness for poverty for saving me from.

Oscar (81:42)

Oh, kind of like that Titanic submersible.

Trisha Paytas (81:45)

Bury that. And it is. Sometimes you have to. Yes. I love the, the gratitude for that. Cuz sometimes I think about that too. Because sometimes if you have like stupid money, I'd probably be doing some stupid. Not going underwater or anything, but I'd probably be doing something dumb like.

Oscar (81:58)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (81:58)

Flying on a rocket or something. Just outside of the rocket. Not even inside. I don't know. You know what I mean? You have so much money and then it's like whatever. But yeah. Shout out to the comedians over there.

Oscar (82:11)

Or not actually tomato.

Trisha Paytas (82:13)

I don't know. The comedians get away with everything too. I feel, I feel like their audience just doesn't care. They can like do anything they want.

Oscar (82:19)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (82:20)

They're like cares Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart was over there. Like it's crazy because he seems pretty unpromagic to me and I'm just like, damn. I don't know. I, I was just like, I don't think there is any amount of money that would make me go or take me to go perform for a country that's not doing great things.

Oscar (82:36)

Yeah. And I also just don't know the comedy world that Like, I saw people talking about it and I just didn't. I couldn't, like, comprehend because I didn't, like, recognize 95. I knew Whitney Come. I recognize Whitney Cummings.

Trisha Paytas (82:50)

Yeah.

Oscar (82:52)

And I guess Kevin Hart. I think that was like. Yeah, yeah. Everyone else, I'm like, okay, white guy. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (82:58)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dave Chappelle's a big one. Dave.

Oscar (83:01)

Yeah. Isn't he, like, kind of. He's problematic. No.

Trisha Paytas (83:04)

Yeah, yeah.

Oscar (83:06)

So I know.

Trisha Paytas (83:07)

I don't know. I don't know anything.

Oscar (83:08)

I saw Theo Vaughn. He was. I don't know why I'm getting comedian, like, news tweets, but I'm saying he.

Moses (83:16)

Was a big news.

Oscar (83:17)

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (83:18)

Because I didn't care about this.

Oscar (83:19)

He, like, taped his Netflix special.

Moses (83:21)

I think it tried. I don't think it worked out so well.

Oscar (83:24)

He was taping a Netflix special, like, at one of his standup shows, and I guess he. He bombed it. And there was, like, all these people saying that, like, it was one of the worst things I ever saw. He kept going, like, allegedly. He kept, like, walking off stage. He kept, like, flubbing with his stories, walking off stage.

Moses (83:39)

I guess he said he started good, but then at some point he started, like, forgetting his punch lines. And every few minutes he would go off stage and come back on one. Oh, and then something. So it just. I. I don't know what the source, like, what the problem is. A mental health problem or it's a certain substance. He had the day problem. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (83:58)

Well, you told me he had, like. He talks about mental health problems. Like he has issues.

Moses (84:01)

A lot. A lot, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (84:02)

What is it? Do we know? Does he take.

Moses (84:03)

I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (84:03)

He doesn't talk about it.

Moses (84:04)

He does. I just don't know.

Trisha Paytas (84:06)

Oh, you don't know what he is?

Moses (84:06)

I don't follow him diagnosis. I just know that for many years he was, like, not doing well. And then he. He did, like, now this is the best time.

Trisha Paytas (84:14)

You don't know if he has any, like, substance issues?

Moses (84:17)

No, I don't know. I don't think so. Like, I haven't seen that.

Trisha Paytas (84:22)

I don't know much about him either. I mean, I see clips. I think he's, like, funny, but I don't know much about him.

Oscar (84:26)

But the diagnosed with PTSD in 2022 or he disclosed it in 2022. And he talks about his struggles with anxiety a lot too, I guess. But yeah, I don't really know that.

Trisha Paytas (84:42)

Much about that because it does seem like something Wants to happen with him because he does this for a living. Like, he's always performing. He's at arena. Like, I told you. I, like, looked it up when I was in Nashville. He's performing, like, 18,000 people. So it's like, he obviously does this for a living. It must have been something. Something happens on stage. Maybe people get, like, anxiety or something. Especially if you're filming for Netflix. You're like, this is my big one. I don't know.

Moses (85:02)

Right? And then think, oh, maybe if I take something just to feel a bit better or relax, and it doesn't hit well.

Trisha Paytas (85:07)

Oh, I didn't hear about this. That's so interesting. So, like, they're not. It's not airing.

Oscar (85:10)

I don't know. It was. It just happened. And, like, it was a live audience, so people. That's why people were, like, talking about it. Like, a lot of people. There was a lot of discourse about, like, half the room left. But then some people were like, no, it wasn't that many, but still, a lot of people left before it ended. Like, they just walked out and were complaining about how bad he was.

Moses (85:30)

There was a video of him walking off stage at the end and just talking to the audience. He's like, sorry, like, you know, didn't go so well, and I hope I don't go off myself. Something like that.

Oscar (85:42)

Oh. Oh.

Moses (85:42)

Like, he was very like, oh, wow.

Trisha Paytas (85:45)

Okay. That's sad. That's scary. That's sad. I mean, performers go through a lot. It's kind of like Lola Young.

Oscar (85:52)

Yes, I just saw that, too.

Trisha Paytas (85:55)

But there's been multiple things. Obviously, she fainted off stage this past weekend. But, like, I think Coach.

Oscar (85:59)

Was it Coachella where she, like, she threw up. Yeah. So she's had a few, like, live performance incidents.

Trisha Paytas (86:06)

And how come no one's, like, stopping her from performing on her team? Being like, yeah, you should take a break. Because, like, it's actually so scary. And she's like. She's a young girl. You know what I mean? It's like, obviously, she's doing too much. And she pulled out a post at first. Her manager put out a post, and, like, okay, she's not performing here, and she put out a post, and I'm not performing tonight. So it's like. I don't know. It's, like, so scary that performers just, like, you know, you work. I think Alex Warren, too, was saying, like, he just is constantly touring. He's like, he wanted, like, one day off or something. I think they should probably take more than a day Off. I know.

Oscar (86:35)

I. For Lily, Lola Young. I think maybe. Maybe they just think she's having her moment because she had, like, that song Messy. I'm so messy.

Trisha Paytas (86:42)

I'm so called messy this year too.

Oscar (86:45)

It's her sister. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (86:47)

I do love her. I do love. Yeah.

Oscar (86:50)

So maybe they just think she's having her moment. So they're like, pushing her to, like, capitalize on it. But I feel bad.

Trisha Paytas (86:56)

But yeah, pick and choose. Because she'd take those big dates and like, let her off on the Milwaukee, Wisconsin date, you know, Cuz at least.

Oscar (87:05)

Because I kind of like, with Chapel, like, when she was blowing, like, up and having her big moment, like she did, you know, put the. Put the pedal, put her foot on the brakes and like, she was able to, like, take charge.

Trisha Paytas (87:20)

Yeah.

Oscar (87:21)

But maybe it's because her. Her label was like, smaller at first or her manager was different. Yeah. That's the only thing I can think.

Trisha Paytas (87:27)

Of who's low level with. I.

Oscar (87:29)

Let me look at that.

Trisha Paytas (87:31)

We had to give them a message to them.

Moses (87:32)

Be like, dangerous. If you faint, that fall can injure you for life. You fall the wrong way.

Trisha Paytas (87:39)

She kind of like. Yeah, kind of felt it. But.

Oscar (87:44)

Lola Young is on. Oh, she's on Island Records, but so is Chapel, so. So I don't know, maybe this is like her personal team. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (87:54)

Yeah, I suggest. Yeah, like, pick the big ones, you know? She gonna be an snl or am I making that up?

Oscar (88:00)

Oh, I think she one of the performers.

Trisha Paytas (88:02)

Yeah. So it's like, keep her for snl. Make sure she, like, if I was doing snl, right. Like, again, if I was performing on snl, I would like, literally, like, cancel everything two weeks prior. So I could just like, meditate and like, get my skin clear and just like, be like, the best I can be. Cause she's been performing, she knows how to do it. You know what I mean? Just like, really focus on, like, the big ones and then. Yeah, continue. Because she's doing a lot of, like, festivals, which is like, a lot. It's like, if it's your own tour, you know, you're catered to more, you can like, rest more, you can have more to say. But if it's like these festivals that she's doing constantly, it seems like a lot.

Oscar (88:31)

Yeah. And also I feel bad for her too, because people are online are just mean to her in general.

Trisha Paytas (88:36)

Are they? What are they saying about Lola?

Oscar (88:38)

People just bully her a lot online.

Trisha Paytas (88:39)

Really.

Oscar (88:40)

And I mean, every pop girl gets it. But I think especially if you're not the, like, conventionally a hot one too, you get it even more.

Trisha Paytas (88:50)

Wait, what are they saying?

Oscar (88:50)

Because people just bully her always, like, she's always a meme. Yeah. Her looks and, like, her songs and stuff. And then people were calling her, like, a Nepo baby because she has one aunt who, like, worked as a writer, I think, a children's author. And people like, oh, well, she's a Nepo baby. Yeah. So that people go really hard on Lola. You young. And I think it is a little bit because she is, like, not the conventionally, like, hot one, but also Sabrina type. Yeah. But again, because obviously we see, like, the new pop girls go through, like, Chapel obviously went through the ringer too, with, like, the pendulum effect. But I think it's even worse when it's like, people can also, like, bully you for your looks or something.

Trisha Paytas (89:33)

I really thought. I guess I'm old and I don't get bullied for, like, looks anymore. But I like, oh, my comments have stopped. Like, the fat, the ugly. Like, I haven't seen those. Those don't exist. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, this new generation, not bullying people. But then I hear this stuff and I'm like, what the.

Oscar (89:46)

I know evil doesn't die. Just reinvents itself as.

Trisha Paytas (89:49)

Who said that?

Oscar (89:50)

Mean girls or Jennifer's body on one of those. It's very different.

Trisha Paytas (89:56)

I'm going to see free them both. So there's that connection.

Oscar (89:58)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (89:59)

Interesting. Yeah. Okay, well, stop bullying. Especially, like, especially I feel like, I guess you don't bully pretty people, but it's like, especially people who are like, just, you know, know. I think people love, like, Lola Younger, Chapel Roan. It's like, obviously they're both beautiful, but it's like they're. They're different than just a Britney Spears, who I love, or Christina, because when I was a kid, it was Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Mandy Moore, Jessica Simpson. They were all these tiny blondes with their stomach, like, skinny stomachs out. And it's like, I. I think we craved people, like, say, Avril Lavigne.

Oscar (90:26)

But she's also was very the anti. Even though she still was, like, she.

Trisha Paytas (90:30)

Still had a crop top.

Oscar (90:31)

It was.

Trisha Paytas (90:32)

Yeah.

Oscar (90:32)

But she was. Was marketed as, like, the anti.

Trisha Paytas (90:34)

Which is so funny. Right. There was a song she had called Stupid Girls. You remember that?

Oscar (90:39)

Maybe if I act like that. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (90:41)

But she's literally like. And she was like, so, like, she was. I remember specifically she was like a Jessica Simpson in, like, a bikini. But also just like, the Skinny, hot body. I was like, okay, well, I get the.

Oscar (90:50)

Her hair was short, so she was the. She was the alt girl.

Trisha Paytas (90:55)

She had short hair.

Oscar (90:56)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (90:57)

But she was still, like, so pretty and so. Yeah, it's like. It is funny how people are like, the aunt or even Chapel Roan, you know, it's like she's. Because she wears, like, drag makeup. It's like, oh, she's different, but also just has, like. We just saw, like, a perfect. And, like, every. It's just like. Yeah, it is crazy how this world is.

Oscar (91:12)

Yeah. But even Sabrina, who is, like, by all means, conventionally, like, attractive, like, she just was, like, in her press tour for Man's Best Friend, she was saying how, like, the most hate she ever gets is from, like, men calling her ugly and stuff, too. So crazy. It is crazy. You can't. You just can't, like, escape it. So it is nuts.

Trisha Paytas (91:30)

Yeah.

Oscar (91:31)

But that kind of reminds me. Zach Bryan.

Trisha Paytas (91:34)

Which one is he?

Oscar (91:35)

He is Brianna Chicken, ex boyfriend.

Trisha Paytas (91:37)

We have so many Zach Browns and Brian. All them.

Oscar (91:41)

What is that? Zach Brown band.

Trisha Paytas (91:43)

Zach Brown band. Zach Bryant. Zach. Luke Brown. Oh, oh, oh. Zach saying exact same.

Oscar (91:49)

Luke Bryan.

Trisha Paytas (91:50)

Zach Moore Morris.

Oscar (91:50)

Yeah. Who's that? Whatever. Anyway, who's that?

Trisha Paytas (91:54)

What?

Oscar (91:55)

He broke the record for largest concert audience in the US at his Michigan Stadium show for an audience of 112,408 people, the largest ticketed concert audience in US history. With special guests John Mayer and support from Ryan Bingham and the Texas Gentleman and Joshua Stone. It also set a merchandise sales record in the amount of $5 million. And there's just a world out there that I know nothing about because.

Trisha Paytas (92:30)

Yeah. What? Like, I'm trying not to be. Like, who would go to this? But clearly.

Oscar (92:35)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (92:37)

Which. Okay. Wow. Honestly, it's impressive.

Oscar (92:41)

It's. I mean, it's crazy to me, but I'm also like. And I hate to be that girl, but it is crazy to me, too, that, like, it's just a guy in jeans and a T shirt and guitar for an hour and a half, you know what I mean? Versus, like, with the concert wars, with all the pop girls. Like, oh, Tate McCray, she can dance, but she can't sing. Oh, Taylor, she can't dance. Who go pay to see this? Like, who's gonna go see Beyonce? Like, it's. Every pop girls concert gets, like, analyzed and picked apart, and they're not doing enough or doing too little.

Trisha Paytas (93:09)

They're flying through the sky, falling. Every night changes, you know, it's like.

Oscar (93:15)

It'S never enough, you know, not Enough dancing. Too much dancing. Not singing enough. What? The mic isn't on them. They can only sing. It's like so crazy. And then these guys can just show up in a T shirt and guitar.

Trisha Paytas (93:26)

That's what I'm saying is like somewhat impressive because I look and this is really not trying to hate, but it's like, it is crazy because I'm sure there's so many, you know, average looking guys that can sing with a guitar, you know. So why Zach? Brian, you try to remember. Yeah, it's like Brian or Brian. Why is that? Like why him?

Oscar (93:42)

I guess because his songwriting, I guess he write. I mean this is me trying to understand.

Trisha Paytas (93:49)

Yeah, yeah, he's an amazing songwriter.

Oscar (93:51)

Yeah, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (93:52)

Okay.

Oscar (93:53)

That's what I heard from people. His.

Trisha Paytas (93:55)

Yeah, it's impressive. If you come to a Trisha Paytas show, there's no sets, there's nothing happening. It's just me and a little sequin outfit and a couple dancers. But. And I think that alone, I think there's some impression like playing Raider City Music hall where he Jackman has like 50 orchestra people behind him and then like Mead is going up there designing just like singing to a track like it is crazy. And it's. I think that's impressive. But it's also impressive that like. Yeah, or Ed. I mean Ed Sheeran actually does a little more. I was gonna say Ed Sheeran does the same thing, but I guess he does a little more because he's a good songwriter. But he has like a little, he has like little pedals.

Oscar (94:25)

Oh true. He does like his own loops.

Trisha Paytas (94:27)

Yeah. Which is kind of impressive. But yeah, just going out there with a guitar, like I said, it's very impressive that a hundred and a hundred thousand people come to watch him just be on stage with a guitar. Don't like him. But what I know of him, I don't know much about him. I guess just the Brianna thing. I don't like his personality, but maybe people don't care. Like we were talking about earlier, like standard comedians, country music stars and it seems like hip hop, like rappers. Like people don't really care about their personal behavior. Like they can literally like set the world on fire and like. Yeah, we like his songs because it's interesting. He's not. I always look at the charts to see who's the top touring band and like, like it's always been like Chris Brown was number one this year the whole time. I don't know, he's just always on tour. But he's like number One. So it's always surprising. You never see Zach Brian's name. Maybe he just doesn't tour as much.

Oscar (95:13)

Yeah, maybe he just doesn't do as many dates.

Trisha Paytas (95:16)

I wonder because MCR was number two. But it might. It might have been changing now, but I was like, it's so interesting. I never saw.

Oscar (95:24)

Yeah. Like on his website right now. He only has one other.

Trisha Paytas (95:27)

I see.

Oscar (95:28)

He only has one date.

Trisha Paytas (95:29)

He's performing live. Less.

Oscar (95:30)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (95:31)

Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. Well, damn, that's impressive. I wish I was playing to 112,000 people.

Oscar (95:36)

Oh, here. Here's the fool. Okay. It was 50 dates starting in 2020. 2024. 50, 50. Yeah. From 2024. And it just. His last. The Michigan show was his last. So about like a year.

Trisha Paytas (95:54)

Wow. Well, if you're a Zach Bryant fan, let us know. Maybe some people. Maybe some people, like I said, just don't care about. They just like songs. And I just like his songs, you know?

Oscar (96:02)

Yeah. And at least he wasn't me finding the silver lining. At least he was just a boyfriend. Question mark.

Trisha Paytas (96:10)

And not.

Oscar (96:12)

He did. I just saw that he did just pick a fight with like another country singer and they were fighting for like a chain link fence or something. But so I guess he just has. He struggles with like mental health, substance, like drinking.

Trisha Paytas (96:25)

Yeah.

Oscar (96:26)

And is a bad boyfriend. It could be worse.

Trisha Paytas (96:29)

It could be worse.

Oscar (96:30)

As we've seen.

Trisha Paytas (96:30)

Yes. So yeah, that's true.

Oscar (96:33)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (96:33)

That's sad. We're like, well, it could be worse. Could be Morgan Wallen throwing chairs out the window, you know, getting fist. Yeah. Oh, that too.

Oscar (96:40)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (96:43)

Country music world is wild, but yeah. You know, John Mayer is a wild one to bring out.

Oscar (96:49)

I know. I guess he is the blueprint for a white guy with guitar selling.

Trisha Paytas (96:55)

That's very that.

Oscar (96:56)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (96:57)

I'd rather go see Alex Warren. He's doing arenas. He just announced an arena tour. Kia Forum.

Oscar (97:03)

Wow.

Trisha Paytas (97:04)

Isn't that crazy? Yeah, just his trajectory, it's. It's always going to like blow my mind. Like we're rewatching.

Oscar (97:11)

He showed up in some. Oh, what were we watching? Oh, a canceled, like the canceled podcast moments or whatever. And a clip of him in his David Dobrik cosplay era. Like crazy tormenting. Tana came up like.

Trisha Paytas (97:26)

I guess I just don't remember like slightly remember people saying it, but he laughed. Like David. He wore David.

Oscar (97:30)

The black shirt, the black hat, the.

Trisha Paytas (97:33)

Tormenting, like you said, you know, like crazy. Like he had all this talent and like, I guess you gotta like skate your Start somewhere.

Oscar (97:41)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (97:43)

Good for him, though. He went from David Dober to Lewis Capaldi. He's like, this is what I'm gonna be. And I just recently found out who is Capaldi was. Thanks to Tana.

Oscar (97:49)

Because Tana, I love Lou. She's like.

Trisha Paytas (97:53)

She's like. I'm like, with Alex War we're talking. And I was like, that's crazy. And she goes, yeah, because, like, Louis Capaldi took, like, a break, and he, like, filled that spot. Like, who's lose quality?

Oscar (97:59)

And then she loves him too.

Trisha Paytas (98:01)

Do you know anything about him? I kind of like his voice. I was like, he's got. He seems sweet.

Oscar (98:03)

I don't know that much about him, but I know t. I think she had a crush on him, right?

Trisha Paytas (98:09)

Oh, is that. I didn't know.

Oscar (98:10)

I think so. Yeah. If I'm remembering my Lord.

Trisha Paytas (98:13)

So funny.

Oscar (98:13)

Very all over the place. Yeah, Tana's Adele, but, yeah, Adele's not.

Trisha Paytas (98:18)

You remember I told you guys last week, I was like, oh, Adele's doing the halftime show.

Oscar (98:20)

Yeah, I do remember you said that. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (98:21)

It's not.

Oscar (98:22)

Yes. Bad Bunny.

Trisha Paytas (98:24)

That's great.

Oscar (98:24)

Yeah. I. I don't know if the. With. Okay. I heard. I read reports. I was like, taylor Swift is not doing it. Like, confirm not doing it. Adele confirmed not doing. So I don't know if there was talks at some point that fell apart, art or whatever. But, yeah, Bad Bunny makes sense to me. I think, like, me personally, as someone who doesn't watch the super bowl, would like to see a pop girl just because I love, like, a pop girl show. But if it's not a pop girl, I'm happy that it's. If it's gonna be a male artist, like, yeah, Bad Bunny makes sense to me. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (98:54)

Yeah. Very exciting. We love a halftime show.

Oscar (98:58)

Yeah. And I was looking it up, too, because obviously, like, I hear about all the records and stuff that Bad Bunny breaks and. And I was like, damn, he really is one of the biggest artists in the world.

Trisha Paytas (99:12)

Yeah.

Oscar (99:13)

Because his album that he released this year. Let me get the name debited. Mass photos.

Trisha Paytas (99:21)

Wow. Good. Good pronunciation, I think.

Oscar (99:23)

Very gringo, I think.

Trisha Paytas (99:24)

But I thought it could get a little.

Oscar (99:27)

It is the first album to reach 7 billion streams this year, and it came out this year. Isn't that crazy?

Trisha Paytas (99:32)

Seven billion.

Oscar (99:33)

Seven billion. Yeah. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (99:35)

Billion's crazy. How much money is that? A billion dollars. Like, what does he make?

Oscar (99:38)

Probably, like, not that much, you would.

Moses (99:39)

Think, but streaming, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (99:41)

Really?

Oscar (99:42)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (99:42)

Damn.

Oscar (99:44)

But from 2020 to 2022, he was the most played artist in Spotify, and he made history as the first musician to claim the top spot for three consecutive years. So he's really been. Yeah, he's been around. He's been at the top of the charts. And he was getting, like, some controversy, I guess, because he hasn't performed any U.S. date. He refused because he didn't want to have ICE be, like, outside of his shows because obviously he's a Latin artist. He would have a big Latino show out, like, at his concerts, and he had fears over, like, any of his fans coming out to see him and being, like, a hot spot for rice, whatever. So he refused to perform in the United States on his tour. And this is, like, the one. He said this is the one exception he'll make. And then people were, like, trying to come at him for that, but, like, oh, it makes.

Trisha Paytas (100:36)

What were they coming up for him for?

Oscar (100:37)

He's like, oh, you said that you wouldn't perform in America because. And you're performing at this. But it wasn't because of him. Like, I think people misinterpreted it of, like, he was afraid for himself. Like, obviously he's not afraid for himself because he's also a citizen. He's, like, afraid for fans, whatever, because they do go to, like, venues and stuff, and they wait outside.

Trisha Paytas (100:54)

So that's people just. God, they really. Which is so wild.

Oscar (101:01)

Yeah. And I think having a Latin artist right now who also is, like, pretty political and, like, outspoken on, like, the biggest stage in America makes sense. Like, yeah, like, hello.

Trisha Paytas (101:13)

No, it's gonna be huge. Everyone's gonna, like, tune in.

Oscar (101:16)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (101:16)

It'll be really big. Yeah. And he's. He's obviously. He's been around for a while. I've had my Bad Bunny cup, like, I was telling you. I have a Bad Bunny star Starbucks cup up there since, like, 2021. I was like, love. But he. This past year, like you were saying, he's so, like. Or past couple years, he's been, like, so mainstream over here with, like, snl, obviously, like, acting and stuff more and stuff. And he's good actor.

Oscar (101:32)

Yeah. And all the celebrities go out to his shows to, like, like, Austin Butler. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (101:37)

Yes.

Oscar (101:37)

Yeah. Because he doesn't have any time of their lives. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (101:39)

Puerto Rico residency, right?

Oscar (101:40)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (101:41)

Was it three months or something?

Oscar (101:42)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (101:42)

Yeah. It was crazy. It was, like, sold out so fast. Yeah. I think it's a good choice.

Oscar (101:46)

Yeah. Again for, like, a male artist. I'm like, this makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Obviously, my gay would have Loved like a Taylor and Ariana, a Miley, but if not one of the pop girls.

Trisha Paytas (101:56)

Maybe they'll come out with him, you know, maybe like a. Sure.

Oscar (101:59)

He has a lot of collabs, so I'm sure he'll. Because he also was a guest when it was Shakira and jlo. Like, he came on.

Trisha Paytas (102:05)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I feel. Oh, yeah, he could. He's gonna. He could bring literally any artist, Rosalia, Carol G, like, easily, like, anyone. Britney Spears out of retirement probably, you know, like, anybody.

Oscar (102:14)

True. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (102:15)

Yeah.

Oscar (102:15)

The guest could be fierce too, so.

Trisha Paytas (102:17)

Oh, love it.

Oscar (102:18)

Yeah. I'm excited for it.

Trisha Paytas (102:20)

It's the only thing I'm excited about for the Super Bowl. Everything else. Who's going? Don't care.

Oscar (102:23)

T. The only, I guess if the Chiefs go again, then Taylor watch. But other than that.

Trisha Paytas (102:29)

Taylor watch is so funny. Was Travis Kelsey at the wedding?

Oscar (102:32)

No. He had a football game on Sunday.

Trisha Paytas (102:35)

He can't call out.

Oscar (102:38)

No. Yeah. You're contractually obligated. There's literally no way. It's like, you wait all year for, like, football season.

Trisha Paytas (102:45)

Okay. But, like, you do a hundred games. You can't miss one game.

Oscar (102:48)

No, there's literally no way.

Trisha Paytas (102:51)

And what if he's sick?

Oscar (102:53)

I guess you have to be really, really sick or, like, injured beyond. Yeah. Physical. And then I think even if you're injured or whatever, you have to, like, still be there. But. Oh, my God. Taylor went from the wedding, and then the next day she did do the. She did go to the Chiefs games, although she hasn't been photographed or, like, recorded at the games, which is interesting.

Trisha Paytas (103:15)

You don't think she's going or she's like.

Oscar (103:17)

She's there. And I think last week she went, but she, like, was hidden. Like, they had her behind, like a. This kind of, like, box situation. I didn't know if it was for her safety or she just, like, holding out on, like, a public appearance until the album roll out.

Trisha Paytas (103:34)

It could be either this Friday.

Oscar (103:36)

I'm so excited.

Trisha Paytas (103:37)

Maybe she'll be here at the game this Friday with orange and Green. She's like, here I am.

Oscar (103:40)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (103:41)

What comes out Friday? The movie.

Oscar (103:43)

The movie and the album. Well, Thursday night technique. Oh, I'm gonna. Me plugging myself. I'm gonna do a live reaction stream to the album on Thursday night.

Trisha Paytas (103:51)

You should have done at the beginning of the episode. But yeah, next episode we'll start at the beginning. But.

Oscar (103:56)

But yeah, I'm really. I took, like. I even took work off because I'm like, I do Not. I. I used to love it at first. It was exciting. Like, being like, covering it as like a Swifty. It felt like, you know, I was covert. I was like, inside.

Trisha Paytas (104:09)

Yeah.

Oscar (104:09)

But now I'm like, I just want to enjoy it. Like, I want to enjoy an album and go to the movie and not be stressed about having to, like, do a damn Instagram post or something.

Trisha Paytas (104:16)

Yeah, it's an event.

Oscar (104:17)

Yeah, I took it off.

Trisha Paytas (104:18)

Oh, I'm so excited.

Oscar (104:18)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (104:19)

Oh, my God.

Oscar (104:20)

What time are you streaming when it comes out? It's probably like 8:30.

Trisha Paytas (104:24)

Yeah.

Oscar (104:24)

Yeah. Pacific Standard Time. Because it comes out at 9.

Trisha Paytas (104:27)

00Pm we have already seen the movie. Then when the album comes.

Oscar (104:29)

No, the movie is day. Friday at noon. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (104:33)

Did you take that day off too?

Oscar (104:34)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (104:35)

Love it.

Oscar (104:36)

I'm like, I just. My manager, Ash, is like, are you going to a secret session or something? Like, I was like, no, I just don't want to be bothered.

Trisha Paytas (104:43)

Manifest it. Maybe we'll be. Is there secret sessions?

Oscar (104:45)

I don't think for this one. No, the last one. The last album she had, like, secret session for was, I think, Reputation, which I didn't get invited to, but I did get invited to see her for Lover for her album after. Oh, did you go?

Trisha Paytas (104:59)

Is that where it's from?

Oscar (105:01)

New York? Yeah. Yeah, that one of me in the kitchen is from.

Trisha Paytas (105:03)

You need to start reposting all your tailors of content. Start with the one where you're like, in the video with her. That's the most impressive thing ever to me. And I was like, why are you posting that more? That's so cute.

Oscar (105:14)

Like you.

Trisha Paytas (105:15)

It's like you another guy and like three girls. And she's like the cutest video. And I was like, you need to post that. Cause you just show. I love showing how long I've been a fan of something. Cause be like, I've been an og. I been here since the beginning. You should post it.

Oscar (105:26)

Yeah. Because I really. I wasn't og. I missed our. The. When her first tour, like, my parents used to let me stay home from school, like when she. When her tickets went on sale. Because I would be like, I need to get these tickets as soon as they go on sale. And it was before, like, you know, the iPhone and stuff. So I had to be at home. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (105:43)

And they let you stay home for that. Love that.

Oscar (105:46)

And I was like, boots on the ground. When her second album came out, Fearless, I was already like, swifty pilled. And like, my mom took me to Walmart before school to get the cd. The day came out. Oh, my God. Ironically, I went to history class after and be like, look, I got the album. And then this boy named Travis said I was gay. Oh, ironically, also a Travis, but not Kelsey.

Trisha Paytas (106:09)

Was he gay?

Oscar (106:11)

Not that I know of him. Maybe I'm gonna follow it up. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (106:14)

Like, why would he say that to you? That's so weird.

Oscar (106:16)

History class of all things. But he's just like.

Trisha Paytas (106:19)

You're like, oh, look, I got Taylor's from a gay.

Oscar (106:20)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (106:21)

Did he? And what did you do? Did you say that really gagged it.

Oscar (106:26)

I should have clocked. Yeah, clocked mama. Did you respond Tina Boots? I don't remember. No, I probably was just too shy. I wasn't very much of a. Oh, you wish.

Trisha Paytas (106:36)

I'd like, not.

Oscar (106:37)

Yeah, very. Yeah, Same today though, too. Like, randomly, I'll be very like, clap backy. Not shy. But sometimes I am quiet and shy. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (106:46)

Interesting. Yeah. Because like, in high school, you're like performing at the talent show.

Oscar (106:48)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (106:49)

You're not shy, but.

Oscar (106:50)

But I honestly don't know what it is. It's like, yeah, it's one or the other. But anyway, yeah, we'll be seated for a life of showgirl and so exciting. So she's releasing it this week. And so this past Friday, to get ahead of Taylor, releasing over 40 artists. Like, release new music, I think. So this not compete with Taylor.

Trisha Paytas (107:14)

That's so funny. They're like, okay, let's get out now.

Oscar (107:16)

Literally, over 40 artists, over 30 albums were released last Friday. But there is one artist who announced that they will be releasing the same day as Taylor. Honestly, it is such a you thing to do, and I'm mad you're not. Because Victoria justice, of all people, announced that she is releasing on October 3rd. Literally, I think we all released on October 3rd. So. And this is the third time that this is. I think this time it is like, that's planned.

Trisha Paytas (107:43)

Yeah.

Oscar (107:43)

But it is the third time this happened. Infamously, it happened last. Or was it 2020. 2023. With the tortured post department. She released the same day.

Trisha Paytas (107:54)

Oh, wow.

Oscar (107:54)

And then now I think she. This was announced later on.

Trisha Paytas (107:57)

So.

Oscar (107:58)

Yeah, I think it is kind of like a marketing thing at this point.

Trisha Paytas (108:01)

We get a full album from Victoria justice too.

Oscar (108:03)

I think it's just a song. Just the one, one single. It is like so camp to me that she's doing that. And I'm so mad that you're not. And she, like, it is so smart for her to do that because everyone has to like literally me get out of the way.

Trisha Paytas (108:16)

But we talking about it. You know what I mean?

Oscar (108:18)

Exactly. Smart as hell. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (108:20)

Like, who would compete against Taylor Justice? Only she can. Honestly.

Oscar (108:25)

She. She tops. It's like number one on Billboard is Victoria Justice. You never know. You never know. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (108:31)

Are you going to listen on your live stream?

Oscar (108:34)

Maybe I will maybe after I get to the 12 Taylor songs. Yeah. Victoria stream. She seems like a sweet girl, so. Yeah, why not?

Trisha Paytas (108:42)

I love that for her.

Oscar (108:42)

Me too. I think it's fierce. I think it's so camp.

Trisha Paytas (108:45)

That would be awful though. Like you said to have the release. It's kind of like was it Selena got married this weekend, but so did Catherine McBrew. Yes. She got married. I was like, oh man. She might even care about like if it like got overshadowed or whatever. But that would like suck to be like on the same.

Oscar (109:01)

I mean I thought about that with like, with like Aquaman's birth. That was like when other pregnant celebrities. I was like, oh my God. I hope like like a Rihanna. Like imagine, like right.

Trisha Paytas (109:09)

Yeah, I always think about that. That's why like when we get up in the morning, like we obviously film the podcast before. But I was just like, oh my God. Like, hopefully no one else. Like, does it matter now? But like it's exciting to have your announcement. But obviously I got Rihanna having a baby. Obviously. Yeah. Ozzy Osbourne did pass away that the day we announced. But we didn't know. We didn't know. You know we would have. We would have held our news probably if we would have known. But it was like an hour later they announced. I was like, oh yeah, we had.

Moses (109:35)

One hour of our own.

Trisha Paytas (109:36)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And rightfully so. He should have. But you know, like when you have exciting news.

Oscar (109:41)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (109:41)

Like getting married or something seems like a big deal.

Oscar (109:45)

Me getting married the day Taylor Swift gets married just for the campness. That would actually be so funny.

Trisha Paytas (109:49)

That'd be cute. You should. Taylor Swift. Yeah.

Moses (109:51)

Your anniversary will always be together.

Oscar (109:52)

Oh, tea. Yeah, I love that.

Trisha Paytas (109:54)

That's actually so cute.

Oscar (109:56)

That would be tea.

Trisha Paytas (109:57)

I love the tie ins. Donny Osmond got married on my birthday 10 years before I was born. But serendipitous.

Oscar (110:02)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (110:02)

That's like me. So when I go to. I used to go to the shows every year with my dad in Vegas for my birthday. Even as like a 12 year old, 13 year old. And I would feel like he'd always be like, it's a special night. And I'm like, oh my God. But Then he'd be like, my wife is there. We've been married 30 years. Like, okay, well, Tea, you know, we love him. May 8, anything? Walton Goggins news. Can we do that or no? Are we not there? Walton Goggins in the news? He. I love a Walton Goggins post, and I love Walton Goggins in general. Pete Davidson, did you see his interview? Who's he? Was he on the Obama? I think he's on the Avon talking about this. He's like, how he was scared, like, Pedro Pascal, like, how everyone was so quick to turn on him. Like everyone's, like, building him up and loving. Do you see this?

Oscar (110:41)

No.

Trisha Paytas (110:42)

Yeah. And so then he was saying he thinks Walton Goggins is going to go through the same thing soon. In a couple months, people are going to get sick of seeing him because he's doing, like, all these shows. Because obviously, like, once, it's kind of like City Sweeney, right? It's like when you're hot, you start booking everything. But then some people are like, okay, enough of this person. Right? But, like, kind of what you had said, like, maybe Cindy Sweeney shot all these ads last year or whenever, and they're just coming out now, and people are like, okay, enough to of it. So he had. Pete Davidson said he thought Walton Goggins was gonna get through the same thing. But Walton Goggins did a response on his Instagram. I love responding to Walton Goggins on there. I love it. He's so in the weeds. He responds, he likes, so whatever. But I loved his take on it because he's like, oh. He's like, yeah. He's like, what? What a blessing to be even considered that I would be able to be turned on because I'm so popular. You know what I mean? And I loved his beautiful. Yeah, right. He's, like, kind of cool that, like, you know, he thinks I'm, like, so popular and all these things that people love me so much that they might, like, turn on me one day. And he's like. And if they do, he's like, it. He goes, I'll write it out. And I was like, I love that. I love it so much because it is sad. Like. Like you were saying the pendulum swinging. Like, it happened, obviously, with Pete Davidson. People were like, were over him. Pedro Pascal kind of. I mean, I guess, but that's more like political.

Moses (111:49)

Walton Goggins is so different. You know, he's not like the new single hot comedian guy from. You know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (111:54)

Like, he's, I guess, because he's just everywhere.

Moses (111:56)

The roles is plain and people love him.

Trisha Paytas (111:59)

And so that was everywhere. I know it was random. It was random that he liked him out of all people because it is very different. Like a Patrick Pascal who's like in movies and Walt. I mean, I think Walton Goggins is bigger and better than Patrick Pascal. But I mean, you know, some people might disagree, but I thought it was. Yeah, I thought it was interesting. He called him out GTP Davidson on the ovon he was talking about.

Moses (112:20)

I just had the clip about. About using drugs and how. Why you have to go sober or something.

Trisha Paytas (112:26)

Oh, I didn't see. Is he sober?

Moses (112:28)

That's what he said.

Trisha Paytas (112:30)

Oh, I didn't know. I saw him talking about like his dad 911. I didn't know that his dad died in 9 11.

Oscar (112:37)

Yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (112:37)

He's a firefighter.

Oscar (112:38)

Jeff Wittick told you about it. But I could understand why you forget everything.

Trisha Paytas (112:42)

Just like Danny McBride like all these things. I'm like, did he talk about that? God, I really do block out all the Jeff interview remember much these days. Oh my God. Did he say that?

Oscar (112:51)

Yeah, or his mom.

Trisha Paytas (112:52)

He said his mom was in 9 11.

Oscar (112:53)

He was saying that was. He was connecting it to Pete Davidson.

Trisha Paytas (112:56)

But his mom survived?

Oscar (112:58)

Yeah, I think so.

Trisha Paytas (112:59)

I didn't know. Okay, maybe I did had to hear that somewhere. But then I heard it again. I was like, oh, what. Damn, that's. That's sad.

Oscar (113:06)

Yeah. You know and yeah, P2 I think. I think he talked about. Because not in the ovon but I think I read another interview where he talked about like. Like before becoming a dad. Cuz his partner is pregnant, like wanting to get his like all his psychological stuff like in check before the. Yeah, before the baby comes.

Trisha Paytas (113:25)

So when did you talk about that? On this interview or something else?

Oscar (113:28)

Something else. Yeah, he was doing. He had a movie come out a couple a month or two ago. It was like right after he announced him and his. God, I'm forgetting her name. Cassie. But right after he announced she was pregnant, it.

Trisha Paytas (113:42)

Oh.

Oscar (113:42)

Or maybe it's Elsie. Elsie Hewitt. Yeah, his girlfriend.

Trisha Paytas (113:46)

I wonder if she's related to Hewitt Packard the printer ink. Is that the name?

Oscar (113:54)

That is such a hp.

Trisha Paytas (113:56)

Yeah.

Oscar (113:57)

That is such a random thing for you to know as someone who doesn't even know how to use a printer.

Trisha Paytas (114:01)

I think my dad used to use.

Oscar (114:03)

Oh yeah.

Moses (114:04)

She used to be a programmer.

Trisha Paytas (114:05)

Yeah.

Oscar (114:06)

Oh t. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (114:07)

Well, my dad actually did have a computer business, which is why I know. What was the other thing? Did you Tell me. Someone told me or you told me when I was trying to tell you what he made the circuit boards. Is that what they're called?

Moses (114:16)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (114:16)

Is that what you called it? Is that what it is? You told me, I guess.

Moses (114:18)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (114:19)

He used to make those little electronic boards and they would have, like, yellow and white and.

Oscar (114:23)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (114:24)

Circuit board. How do you know what a circuit board is?

Oscar (114:26)

Because I had to build. Well, I didn't build a PC myself, but I had to order the parts to build to get the PC built.

Trisha Paytas (114:31)

Oh, it's an interesting.

Oscar (114:32)

So I learned a lot about pieces, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (114:35)

My dad used to make circuit boards for PCs.

Oscar (114:38)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (114:38)

And then Microsoft bought his company.

Oscar (114:41)

A USB drive requires power from a computer to work. True or false?

Trisha Paytas (114:48)

No idea. You don't know what. What is the tw. What is it?

Oscar (114:52)

A usb?

Trisha Paytas (114:52)

No idea what that is. Yeah.

Oscar (114:56)

So I feel like you didn't learn anything about, like, computers through him.

Trisha Paytas (115:00)

I did a little, I think, osmosis. That's why I think. So I think I called myself a computer programmer. I think I could get away with and enough a little bit. I mean, I don't know. I just know he used to make those little.

Oscar (115:10)

That is crazy, because you couldn't even find, like, an email.

Trisha Paytas (115:13)

I can't.

Oscar (115:15)

I was trying to, like, help you with. Your mom was asking for an email.

Trisha Paytas (115:18)

That's right. No, I know my mom will be like, oh, can you help me with it? I'm like, actually, no. No computer stuff, no. Technology in general, I'm really not good at, but also by choice, because I just am, like, have no interest in, like, printers. I never owned a printer, could never print things out. Until I met Moses and I have him print things out for me. And even to this day, that damn printer, I'll always be like, he'll be gone. And I'll be, I need to print this out. And I don't know how to do it. And, like, I know how to do it, but, like, sometimes that printer just doesn't work. Remember that day the printer just, like, was not working? And I was like, what the hell.

Moses (115:45)

Is wrong with Picture of the printer? And she just opened some tray and she's like, there's no paper. And the printer didn't say even that there's no paper. There was paper. What was wrong? I'm like, that's not where you put the paper.

Trisha Paytas (115:59)

And there was paper in the printer. But what was wrong?

Moses (116:00)

Yeah, Well, I couldn't even explain what it was wrong because it just wasn't Nothing was printed.

Trisha Paytas (116:06)

That's the thing. I know how to print now for my phone. I can say print, but it's like. But it wasn't working. And I was like, well, what the hell is wrong with this printer? It was. I hate printers. They're so annoying. And every time.

Moses (116:16)

They are annoying. I mean, they're by design annoying.

Trisha Paytas (116:19)

My dad didn't work on printers. He just worked on computers. He's kind of a genius. I mean, I would do like an electrical engineer or something. Very smart, very college. He loves to tell me he took eight years to get through college. Cause he had to work so much. Oh, he's like, it took me eight years to get through college. I was like, oh, damn, that sucks. I didn't even go to college. Eight years is crazy. And he had to pay his way through, you know, do your parents are telling stories like that? Like, we had to hike six miles in snow to get to school, or I had to go eight years and pay my way through college A little bit.

Oscar (116:52)

A little bit. I guess they would. When I was younger, they would about, like, before they moved to America. Like, my mom in Cuba, my dad in Peru.

Trisha Paytas (116:58)

Okay, that's. That's a valid struggle. For sure. They're all valid struggles. My dad working through college is a valid struggle, too, but it is. Yeah.

Oscar (117:04)

Yeah. But yeah, they would just mostly about, like, life in Cuba, in Peru, versus, like, America, growing up kind of thing. Like, just tougher, just different, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (117:16)

I'm always. I am always fascinated with people when they, you know, their story, coming to America. It's so interesting. You never talk about your story. I like to ask you questions about it, but you never talk too much about him. You never tell Malibu, like, but she's three years old.

Moses (117:28)

I mean, I think she even understands what it means. What's a country?

Trisha Paytas (117:32)

Do you think she knows you have an accent? Oh, do you ever think about that? Like, do kids know their parents have accents?

Oscar (117:38)

Probably not, Right. Until they, like, are around enough people to know that, like, one person speaks differently, I would think. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (117:45)

Does she think me and Moses, like, speak sound the same? I mean, I mean, we do. I'm not trying to be like, we're.

Oscar (117:48)

So different, but, like, I don't know. Know.

Moses (117:51)

I know because I saw there's a lot of people with accents in our lives.

Trisha Paytas (117:54)

Yeah.

Moses (117:55)

Different accents than ours.

Trisha Paytas (117:56)

Yeah, that's true. So they just, I think, don't think anything of it.

Moses (117:58)

They just think each person has.

Trisha Paytas (118:00)

I mean. Yeah, I never think of your.

Moses (118:01)

Like, I don't know if she knows yet what a language is or a different language.

Trisha Paytas (118:05)

Yeah, she knows, like three languages. So honestly, she's probably just like, I just know everything in this world. So four if you count American Sign Language.

Moses (118:12)

But I still think when we fly with her, like, what's her perception of it? Like, if she understands where we are, where we went to, or does she know we're flying?

Trisha Paytas (118:20)

Like, does she know we're in the air?

Moses (118:22)

Kind of. I think that.

Trisha Paytas (118:23)

You think? I don't know. She does. I feel to me, she's like, oh, I just get on the seat and we're going, you know, we're going in like a car or something.

Oscar (118:28)

So interesting.

Trisha Paytas (118:29)

But like, they do pick up languages. Like, she can, like, obviously not fluently, but she can say words in like three different languages. And like I said, sign language. Four. She can. Like. It's so crazy how she just picks up languages.

Oscar (118:38)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (118:39)

It's so amazing. It's so, so smart. But she doesn't have an accent like, you, like, you know, some people have like a British accent if their parents is, like, British and they have, like a British accent.

Moses (118:47)

Some people do say that she has some little.

Trisha Paytas (118:49)

Little transatlantic accent. She's a Moira. She does sometimes.

Moses (118:54)

I mean, she was born with a British accent, but now it's kind of.

Trisha Paytas (118:57)

Like she does say, she said mama. Now she says mommy. But it's because she hears those kids. Like, the kids. She just.

Moses (119:03)

Yeah. What she watches.

Trisha Paytas (119:05)

Yeah, she loves those kids. We watch kids that only have aunts and uncles. They always say, hey, uncle, hey, aunt. But there's no mom and dad in it. That's interesting. Well, I don't know if it's, like, real. I think it's like. I think they're little kids from different walks of life.

Oscar (119:17)

Oh.

Trisha Paytas (119:18)

But for some reason, they're like, uncle and aunt take care of them.

Moses (119:20)

Interesting.

Trisha Paytas (119:21)

Yeah. But, hey, uncle, what can we do? And I'm like, why don't they have. I mean, I guess that's, I think.

Moses (119:25)

Just helps them with the storyline because there's so many people. There's different. There's one main girl, but there's so many other people that are just casted to this thing.

Trisha Paytas (119:32)

They're so up to date. They have K pop demon hunter wigs. They have the purple wig, the pink wig. And I was like, like, gosh, they must make these videos quick. And they're like, get like 100 million views. Yeah. It's like, it's like a kids channel. It's like, such a weird thing. And they shoot in a house where, like, houses are right next door to each other. Like, it's very interesting, but they update it so fast. And I swear, whatever Malibu's doing, the kids are doing, too. It's, like, so, so bizarre. I was, like, doing this to. That's why she's in Spider Man. Everyone's like, why is she wearing Spider man so much? And it's like, she. There's these kids that play Spider Man.

Oscar (120:01)

I was wondering that, too. I was like, okay, work.

Trisha Paytas (120:03)

But she doesn't, like. Like, I try to put on, like, a Spider man cartoon. She likes. Scared of that. So she just likes kids dressing up as Spider Man. And she will do the, like, the web.

Moses (120:11)

The spider webs. Like, let's play superheroes.

Trisha Paytas (120:13)

And we play superheroes and stuff. And we got her a web shooter that shoots out, like, silly strings.

Oscar (120:18)

Oh, cute.

Trisha Paytas (120:19)

It gets everywhere. She. Oh, my God. Like, shoots way up high. Peace fell on Aquaman the other day. We're like, oh, my God, let's shoot it away. Because also, my sister got her a bow and arrow. Like, kids set for love. Crazy. Crazy.

Moses (120:32)

She's ready for Hunger Games.

Oscar (120:34)

I love.

Trisha Paytas (120:35)

Luckily, it's not too forceful. I'm like, this sounds dangerous, but no.

Moses (120:38)

Just a little suction cup, you know.

Trisha Paytas (120:40)

Still like, oh, my God, she has all these weapons in the house, I guess.

Moses (120:45)

Ready? She's ready for the next Hunger Games, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (120:47)

So how did we get there? What were we talking about?

Moses (120:51)

We did watch the Demon Hunters. We did watch the movie.

Trisha Paytas (120:55)

Talk about some hot topics last time, too. I'm like, I don't know if it's a hot topic anymore. We've talked about it multiple times. I mean, we can.

Moses (121:01)

I'm saying we watch it. It was good.

Oscar (121:03)

It's really good.

Moses (121:04)

Yeah, pretty good.

Trisha Paytas (121:05)

I like it. I know. What. I don't love it. I think I love. I loved it when I watched the beginning. And then the whole. Well, okay, I will say I fell asleep.

Oscar (121:13)

Oh, you know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (121:14)

Like, I think I like the beginning. Like, I love the beginning. I love the girls. Like, I love. I love their fierceness. I don't know if I, like, can get into the whole movie because I'm always confused, too. Like, there's good demons. Like, they're demons, right? The girls, they're demons. But are they demons?

Oscar (121:29)

Like, half demon?

Trisha Paytas (121:30)

Oh, that's what's confusing. Because she had, like, the vein or.

Moses (121:33)

Yeah, she was hiding. She was hiding her.

Trisha Paytas (121:35)

So there's some good demons Then.

Moses (121:37)

Well, she was half. So she was trying to suppress that side of her. Yeah, she was trying to overcome it.

Trisha Paytas (121:43)

Wait, why? Why not embrace it?

Oscar (121:46)

Because it was supposed to hunt, so.

Moses (121:49)

Because the demons feed off of people's souls and I guess.

Trisha Paytas (121:52)

Why are we hunting demons to begin with?

Oscar (121:54)

Because they're. Yeah, they're hunting, preying on people's souls. So it's. And they're trying to protect the. No, remember? Oh, maybe you fell asleep. But the demons come and they were like sucking the souls out of people in the.

Trisha Paytas (122:06)

Oh my God.

Oscar (122:07)

In the town. Yeah.

Moses (122:08)

What's interesting is that they are like kind of like have an accurate take of the music industry.

Oscar (122:15)

Oh, good point.

Moses (122:16)

Cuz a lot of. Because there is music that's designed for that and it's very demonic to, you know, draw the energy out of people. And there's music that's the opposite. So it's really interesting because I thought there was a lot of depth in. In, in it.

Trisha Paytas (122:27)

Okay, you loved it. I haven't finished it. I watched it. I've attempted to watch it twice and I fall asleep and I do like it, I think. And then I fall asleep. So then I'm like, maybe I didn't like it. Cuz why did I fall asleep? Like I stayed awake for Courtney Stodden, but I fell asleep during K Pop. Demon hunters.

Oscar (122:41)

I was gonna say you don't like demonic things usually. So that's where my head went.

Moses (122:45)

I was like, oh, you're kind of protecting yourself by.

Trisha Paytas (122:47)

To me, this wasn't like scary demons. This was like, you know, that's why.

Moses (122:51)

They do a good job. But they didn't make it scary. But they did get the message across.

Trisha Paytas (122:56)

What was the message?

Moses (122:58)

That they are soul sucking.

Trisha Paytas (123:00)

So those boys were soul sucking or what?

Oscar (123:02)

The world demons?

Trisha Paytas (123:04)

Yeah, they were. Yeah, they kill him. Spoiler alert.

Oscar (123:07)

I think I. Yeah, well, one of them, the one that she was like falling for.

Trisha Paytas (123:11)

Oh yeah, she.

Oscar (123:12)

Yeah, like he ended up helping her shut down the. The whole thing was like. Cuz he sold out his family for. For, for himself or whatever. I mean butchering the whole story. But he sold out his family. So he was like not forgiving himself for what he did. And then she was like, no, like you have to forgive yourself. So it was like a thing of like you know, acknowledging that you Disney bad forgiving yourself for it. And then so he turned and helped her like shut down the big deal.

Moses (123:37)

Guilt and shame can draw you to that place.

Trisha Paytas (123:40)

Yeah, I'm here for it. Why were they eating popcorn Every time he would show his ass. Abs, like, remember their eyes turn into popcorn.

Moses (123:49)

Oh, she just. They just. That was the word to show affection. Like, they. She was attracted to him and. But why Popcorn was the abs. Like, the corn looked like the abs and then they were just like popping.

Oscar (124:01)

The.

Trisha Paytas (124:02)

Like it was so hot that the kernels were popping.

Moses (124:04)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (124:06)

I love that. I know. We thought about it. K pop D1 hundreds. I'm like, what if I just put some popcorn on my eyes? I kind of like that girl. That's.

Moses (124:13)

I put a corn on my belly.

Trisha Paytas (124:15)

Yeah.

Moses (124:16)

My abs.

Trisha Paytas (124:17)

I love it. I like where we're at. Maybe I need to try and watch it when I'm more awake. Gosh, I always do.

Moses (124:23)

Yeah. But that's really. Is the story, so you don't have to.

Trisha Paytas (124:28)

Okay. So no watching it anymore.

Moses (124:32)

I'm sure there'll be a sequel or something.

Trisha Paytas (124:35)

Yeah, for sure. That. I think they've already confirmed their song.

Moses (124:38)

Does come up all the time when we play music. Music. Yeah, on like, you know, the different one. Yeah. Like, we play all kind of songs for the kids.

Oscar (124:45)

Golden.

Moses (124:46)

Yeah, golden comes out all the time.

Trisha Paytas (124:48)

Yes. That one's even better. I think, actually we could be the three girls, I guess. Weirdly. It's so weird. Whenever we do the podcast, I get so hungry. But like, during the week I'm good with just like a grapefruit eggs, but I'm like, starving.

Moses (125:01)

I coined a new term, food claustrophobia.

Oscar (125:04)

Oh, is that how you describe yourself?

Trisha Paytas (125:08)

That's how Moses.

Moses (125:10)

This situation when you are in a room for four hours and you know that there's nothing in access and you can't leave and you can go and there's no. So it's this claustrophobia. Yeah. So is it food trap or food.

Trisha Paytas (125:25)

Like food trap sounds right. Yeah.

Moses (125:27)

Something.

Trisha Paytas (125:28)

Yeah, I think that's what it is. It's weird. I have like a weird. Like, I have to eat before, I have to eat during. I have to like. It's just like such a weird thing. But like, during the week I can like, go like just till 2 o' clock and eat once and be good.

Moses (125:39)

You know, but also there's the knowing because, like, when you're just watching TV or in bed, you know, you can just walk to the kitchen.

Trisha Paytas (125:45)

Yeah.

Moses (125:46)

And grab a chip or a snack. So. But then you choose not to or you choose to do it, but here you don't have that choice. You're like, yeah, you can't just leave. Everyone is working and doing it.

Trisha Paytas (125:59)

Yeah, that sounds that sounds about right. Right? Why did Post made some RV curly. I love Arby's curly fries. Not sponsored, but I do love them. And they're only like 400 calories. Is that a lot?

Oscar (126:08)

No, not really. No.

Trisha Paytas (126:11)

Maybe it's less. I don't know. I probably just made it up. It's not much. I think it's 400. It's not much. Who cares, though? Who cares? Cuz honestly, counting calories, like, counting protein.

Oscar (126:19)

There you go.

Trisha Paytas (126:19)

You need them. You need calories throughout the day. What do you need? At least 2500. Is that wrong?

Oscar (126:24)

I think 2000 and 1500 if you.

Trisha Paytas (126:26)

Want to lose one weight.

Oscar (126:27)

Yeah. Or it depends on your body and activity level. So.

Trisha Paytas (126:31)

I'm very active. I'm very active these days. I've been walking in planes.

Oscar (126:35)

Yeah, there you go.

Trisha Paytas (126:36)

All right. On the way.

Oscar (126:41)

So I have a few random. Okay. A couple quick ones. But Glenn Powell was on therapist. And first of all, Glen Powell's relationship with Jake Shane is so interesting to me. They're like, I guess are really close. People have started, like, shipping them together, which is so funny because they fly together. Glenn had Jake Shane. Jake Shane stay at his house, like, in his guest room. And then he, like, was taking, like, hosting him and, like, went and took, like, photos of Jake Shane and his jammies, like, and talked about how cute Jake's morning voice was. Was very interesting to me. I like, I. I can get behind the Jake X Glenn show.

Trisha Paytas (127:20)

Are you a little envious? Because you do love Gwen Powell. Glen Powell. You have. You. You like.

Oscar (127:26)

I think he's a nice guy, but.

Trisha Paytas (127:28)

I feel like you like him because I think he was on your guest list. And I was like, oh, that's so interesting. Twice.

Oscar (127:33)

Glenn Powell.

Trisha Paytas (127:34)

Is that his name? Glenn Powell or who are we talking about?

Oscar (127:39)

Glenn Powell. But I think he was on your.

Trisha Paytas (127:41)

From the Booker. The Booker list. I think you had Glenn Powell on there.

Oscar (127:45)

Me?

Trisha Paytas (127:46)

Yeah. I didn't.

Oscar (127:49)

Maybe I put him as far as, like, someone who's doing podcasts, but I personally, me. You don't have, like, an affinity for him?

Trisha Paytas (127:57)

Because I saw his name on the list. I was like, okay, Glenn Powell. Random.

Oscar (127:59)

Me. Yeah, maybe that. Or me. Did I email that?

Trisha Paytas (128:02)

I mean, it was on someone's list. Maybe Moses did.

Oscar (128:05)

I don't know.

Moses (128:06)

How did that put anyone on the list?

Trisha Paytas (128:07)

You don't have a list? You never emailed the list?

Moses (128:11)

No.

Trisha Paytas (128:11)

I would love to see who's on your list. We were watching something on Big Bang and a scientist came on. He's Like, I don't like him. And I was like, okay.

Moses (128:17)

Random.

Trisha Paytas (128:18)

Like, he's just like. That's like, how do you like, not like a scientist.

Moses (128:22)

That's my beef. My drama.

Trisha Paytas (128:23)

Yeah. That was so weird. And you didn't elaborate. You're like, I don't care for him. I was like, all right, okay. But maybe not. So you don't. Okay. So you don't, like.

Oscar (128:32)

Look, I don't have, like, an affinity. I think he's not.

Trisha Paytas (128:34)

You like Superman.

Oscar (128:35)

Oh, you're thinking of David a million percent.

Trisha Paytas (128:38)

Okay. Okay. Because I was like, I think I've seen his name. And you're like, it's a big. Ah. It's a big wish.

Oscar (128:42)

But maybe. Yeah. I was like, there's no way. But maybe.

Trisha Paytas (128:45)

Okay, maybe that's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah.

Oscar (128:47)

I'm not confused. David Corn, specifically. I mean, no offense.

Trisha Paytas (128:49)

Kind of the same.

Oscar (128:50)

No, they're so good.

Trisha Paytas (128:52)

Different. You want to be the Jake Shane to David Cornstarch? Yeah.

Oscar (128:57)

Amazing way to put it. Yes. You are so right.

Trisha Paytas (129:00)

Would you rather be the Jake Shane to David Corns that are Jake Shane to, like, a Tennificent.

Oscar (129:06)

It's a tough question.

Trisha Paytas (129:08)

Is it? To me, I feel like there's, like, an obvious choice.

Oscar (129:12)

I think I could be the Jake Shane to Ted Nim. I think there was a world.

Trisha Paytas (129:17)

But that's. To me, that's easily obtainable as opposed to. Do you know what I mean? Like, to me. Not that it's not. He's not like, the biggest. Right. I think that would be the equivalent.

Oscar (129:28)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (129:29)

And he just takes pictures of you in your pajamas, David.

Oscar (129:31)

And I think he would. I do. He seems like such a sweetie. Would you be nervous?

Trisha Paytas (129:36)

Would you wear, like, Superman pajamas?

Oscar (129:38)

No, I was not too crazy. No, I wouldn't wear Superman pajamas because I also don't even really care about. I didn't care about Superman and until David Corn Sweat and James Gunn, I guess, their interpretation of Superman. Then I was like, oh, I love this Superman.

Trisha Paytas (129:49)

But that's. Yeah, that's kind of like the whole.

Oscar (129:51)

But I've seen David Corn, like, I saw David Corn Sweat in Pearl, and I didn't think anything interesting.

Trisha Paytas (129:56)

So you like him as Superman. So that's what I'm saying. Then you can go hardcore and Superman.

Oscar (129:59)

Yeah, I guess. And I like David Corn Sweat in interviews, like, his Superman press tour. I was like, he's charmed me.

Trisha Paytas (130:04)

Yeah.

Oscar (130:05)

Yeah. I think he's just like a fun, charming, straight guy, you know, similar to Daniel Nibison. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (130:10)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Glenn Powell.

Oscar (130:12)

I guess Glen Powell doesn't charm me as much, but I know he is very nice. Like, I've never heard anyone say one bad thing about Glen Powell.

Trisha Paytas (130:19)

And what is the relationship? You think? They're just like a. I know it started in aloe.

Oscar (130:24)

I think they started working out together in aloe. And then it blossomed from there with Jake Sheen and Glenn Powell.

Trisha Paytas (130:29)

It's giving kind of crystal big and trainer a little bit too.

Oscar (130:32)

Yeah, kind of.

Trisha Paytas (130:33)

It's like, is this real? Which we love because obviously they have great, like, chemistry, friendship chemistry, whatever. But. But is it. Or is it like more like, hey, Jake's hot right now. Like, let's. Because I didn't hear about Glenn Powell before you. And especially now with Jake's shade.

Oscar (130:45)

I'm like, bow is in everything right now.

Trisha Paytas (130:48)

So, like, what, like, what's he. What's his big thing? Like, I know the name and I just have no City Sweeney movie.

Oscar (130:53)

I know him from, I guess his biggest movie. Yeah, he was in whatever that was me forgetting was called. But yeah, that's. Yeah, he was in Top Gun Maverick. That was like his biggest movie.

Trisha Paytas (131:03)

I guess he's the star of it. It.

Oscar (131:05)

Him and Tom Cruise.

Trisha Paytas (131:07)

Okay, well, Tom Cruise is probably the star of it, then I would assume.

Oscar (131:10)

He is in right now. He's promoted promoting this show, Chad Powers, which is a Hulu show. And then he. His movie comes out next month, Running Man.

Trisha Paytas (131:19)

Okay, so he's that. Okay, there you go. So he's doing a lot of press.

Oscar (131:22)

He's doing a lot of press right now.

Trisha Paytas (131:23)

I don't think there's anything wrong. I love when, you know, like, influencer. I love. I do love that mainstream media is recognizing that influencers. Oh, like, we need to go this route. Who was it? Was it Leonardo DiCaprio was on a podcast.

Oscar (131:33)

He was on the Travis Kelsey one. The long. Whatever it was called. What is it called?

Trisha Paytas (131:39)

The Longest Yard.

Oscar (131:41)

What is that called? What is their podcast called?

Trisha Paytas (131:43)

I have no idea.

Oscar (131:44)

The Travis Whatever. New Heights. New Heights.

Trisha Paytas (131:46)

Oh, love that. Yeah, love it. I recognize that it's so big because it's Travis Kelsey and Jason. Like, I understand. Like, they're so big. They had Taylor Swift on. But like, so random that like, Leonardo DiCaprio did that one. Because they're not like interview. Not that it matters, but like, they don't have guests really. Right.

Oscar (132:01)

They do, but it's usually like. Or how in past was more football, like sports related, you know, so, so random.

Trisha Paytas (132:10)

Right.

Oscar (132:11)

Yeah, because I'VE like, I would understand a Theo Vaughn more than the New Heights, but I guess it is a huge podcast.

Trisha Paytas (132:19)

Like, I guess they're football fans because he was with Benicio del Toro and I'm like, okay, are they, like, football fans or something? So weird.

Oscar (132:25)

Although Jason Kelsey was really good with the Taylor Swift interview.

Trisha Paytas (132:30)

They are good.

Oscar (132:30)

Yeah, he was a really good interviewer. That's the first interview I seen Jason Kelsey, like, do. But I guess he's a commentator, so he does.

Trisha Paytas (132:37)

Yeah.

Oscar (132:38)

Sports stuff a lot.

Trisha Paytas (132:39)

But anyway, for not being interviewers are pretty good at it. Yeah. Especially with, like, Leonardo Capricorn, which was, like, so random.

Oscar (132:44)

Very random.

Trisha Paytas (132:45)

Why are they.

Oscar (132:46)

But love. Yeah. I love when they do these little podcasts and stuff, but. And I don't Jake Shane makes Glen Powell more charming to me in a way too. Like.

Trisha Paytas (132:55)

Oh, yeah, for sure. And I think that's even like Meghan Trainor. Like, I mean, people, like, knew her, obviously, but I think, like, that Chris Olson gay bestie thing was like, oh, this is like a gay and a girl, you know, that we like, all relate to and love to and want to have a friend like this.

Oscar (133:09)

Yeah, kind of.

Trisha Paytas (133:10)

I mean, I don't know if it is. At the beginning, it was like that. And I think Jake Shane is like the person now. It's. It's almost like I saw something about this. Like, you go on his podcast because it's not like, obviously call Her Daddy is like the biggest, biggest podcast, but it is more just like questions, as opposed to Jake Shane is. They're more like formal questions. And Jake Shane is more like a key. Like, he's more like cutesy, for sure.

Oscar (133:33)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (133:34)

He is getting. He's getting all the big ones.

Oscar (133:35)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (133:36)

I like it. I like the friendship. I like the relationship. I like that big stars are using social people more.

Oscar (133:42)

Yeah. And it seems like they are actually friend. I mean, Brisket, his dog loves Jake Shane too. So I'm like, if her dog loves him, then yeah.

Trisha Paytas (133:49)

Okay.

Oscar (133:52)

Yeah. Because they have all their photos and Jake is always holding brisket. That little dog.

Trisha Paytas (133:57)

Brisket's a dog.

Oscar (133:58)

It's like, yeah, Glen Powell's little dog. And that he takes every. Oh, he was in Twisters as well last summer.

Trisha Paytas (134:03)

Brisket's a crazy name for a dog. Don't you eat brisket? Eat it.

Oscar (134:06)

Well, my cat's name is Cheese and you eat cheese.

Trisha Paytas (134:09)

Okay. You're very glad. Powell coated cheese. You say, come here, Cheese.

Oscar (134:13)

Yeah, I love that.

Trisha Paytas (134:15)

I like, like that. I don't want to judge Names. Yeah.

Oscar (134:19)

What the hell? Oh my God.

Trisha Paytas (134:21)

Crazy though. But I love it. It's cute. I'm just thinking like, you eat it.

Oscar (134:25)

It is like a little dog too, which is kind of funny, but.

Trisha Paytas (134:28)

Oh, wow.

Oscar (134:30)

Anyway. Yeah, so that kind of just shows how close they are, but. And when Glenn Powell was on Therapist, he talked about how a canceled actor asked to take a photo with him and Glen Powell had to turn him down because. Because he said that his face is toxic and that it just like wouldn't be a good idea if he was like pictured with him.

Trisha Paytas (134:48)

He said that to the person?

Oscar (134:50)

Yeah. And he, like, he wouldn't take the photo. Like he would, like he talked to him, but he wouldn't take the photo with him. He wouldn't say who. And my mind is like, who could have been? I really.

Trisha Paytas (134:59)

Speculation. Yeah. He didn't give any clues?

Oscar (135:03)

Not really, no. I mean, someone who has been in a lot of movies because they talked about like their work, but who's like a.

Trisha Paytas (135:11)

Maybe Kevin Spacy. I think he's the only one I might refuse a photo with. Trying to think who you'd be like, wow. No, not you, cuz.

Oscar (135:19)

He said, Glenn said, nice to meet you. And he said, oh, dude, I'm such a big fan. And then a photographer asked if they could take a photo of him with them. And he said this person was recently canceled and it was not good recently. I was a fan of their work, but not a fan of their choices. So I was kind of just being nice. But then when they wanted to take a picture with you, I very. I very quickly realized, I don't know if this is a good idea.

Trisha Paytas (135:45)

Ken's actor, what a weird story to share. Why did he say it? Like, what prompted him?

Oscar (135:49)

I think because his character Chad is someone who was like getting canceled. So it was like about cancellations.

Trisha Paytas (135:56)

This is Chad from Scream Queens.

Oscar (135:58)

Chad Powers. No, this is a different Chad. Hawk Tua is in this show though, if that gets you to watch it. I don't know. She has a cameo.

Trisha Paytas (136:05)

What do you mean?

Oscar (136:09)

Cameo in Chad Powers? Yeah. I don't know if she's playing a character or if she's playing Hawk Tua. I mean, we'll wait and see.

Trisha Paytas (136:15)

Iconic either way. Because one of your acting, that's great, but one of your playing. Wow. Who's doing it? It's not Ryan Murphy.

Oscar (136:23)

No, it's a Hulu show. I don't know who's producing it though.

Trisha Paytas (136:26)

But you're gonna watch it?

Oscar (136:28)

No, I will see Running man, his movie But. And I did see twisters. I like twisters. But.

Trisha Paytas (136:33)

But twisters, plural?

Oscar (136:35)

Yes, it was a lot. It wasn't just one, it was several. Yeah. And that was the whole debacle of twisters. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (136:42)

The debacle was there's multiple tornadoes happening.

Oscar (136:44)

Yeah. And it's like, how can you escape? You can maybe escape one, but can you escape, like several? I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (136:49)

What's the spoiler? Did they.

Oscar (136:51)

I mean, the twister did come and they had to. They had to hide. They had to hunker down.

Trisha Paytas (136:55)

But did they escape or are they.

Oscar (136:56)

Obviously some. Not. Not everyone made it.

Trisha Paytas (136:59)

Glenn Powell made it.

Oscar (137:00)

I guess Glenn Powell made it. Yeah. And his love interest also made it, but.

Trisha Paytas (137:04)

Oh, I hate that when the two leads make it, like, give one of them up. You know what I mean?

Oscar (137:08)

I. Yeah, the stakes are really, like, high. That's how you know, like, you're. They're not around when you kill off a main character. I do like that as well.

Trisha Paytas (137:16)

I do too. You're like, what?

Oscar (137:18)

Yeah, that's. Really.

Trisha Paytas (137:22)

Love the relationship. Okay, well, you know, I love.

Oscar (137:26)

Jake Shane would tell us off the. The record who it is.

Trisha Paytas (137:28)

I don't think Jake Shane talks to us.

Oscar (137:31)

You know what? You're right about that.

Trisha Paytas (137:34)

Love him. He is nice in person, but I don't know if he's returning those dms I haven't tried, but he really is. He was pictured with. Who was it? There was someone. He was walking next to a girl. Was it Tate McCrae or something? He's like.

Oscar (137:46)

He's the besties with Tate McRae. Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (137:48)

He really is just like always around. Yeah, I love that he, like posted. He like reposts unflattering photos. Photos of himself. Did you see the one where he's like, oh, new worst photo of me ever.

Oscar (137:56)

And he posted it, but love that energy.

Trisha Paytas (137:58)

It's like, yeah, him from the side and his like, chin's back. And so I'm like, I love that because. Yeah, sometimes you just take bad photos out there.

Oscar (138:05)

He is so sweet. Little.

Trisha Paytas (138:06)

Yeah, he is sweet. I met him at the Ben Platt show. Where else did I meet him? Was it Wicked? Maybe we saw him at Wicked. I don't know. We met him twice and he's always been very, very sweet.

Moses (138:13)

Yeah, we can.

Trisha Paytas (138:18)

We love. We love therapy. Octopus. He doesn't go by Octopus lover anymore. He changed it.

Oscar (138:22)

It's only Jake Shane now. He. Yeah, his handle is still Octopus lover, right?

Trisha Paytas (138:26)

Is it? I don't think so. Did he change it I want to say yes. I want to say yes. Because I was very. Talk about people changing once they become famous. I was like, no, it said air placing order. Damn it. I was excited for it to come. Oh, no.

Oscar (138:39)

Can you reorder it?

Trisha Paytas (138:40)

Oh, no. I don't know.

Moses (138:42)

What did we get? What did you get?

Trisha Paytas (138:43)

I was getting curly fries from Arby's. Oh, it says on the way. Way. What the hell?

Oscar (138:46)

Well, I brought you guys dessert. I was really trying to save it, but you're really trying to. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (138:50)

Oh, well, I wish I would know that before the curly fries. I'll eat both, but I didn't know. Did you get your donuts?

Oscar (138:56)

Yeah. For the. For Patreon.

Trisha Paytas (138:58)

Yum. Oh, man, that Patreon's gonna be lit.

Oscar (139:00)

Big last topic. The end of canceled finally happened. We've been waiting for this. We've been waiting for the final cancel episode. It's been a month, literally, since the last episode.

Trisha Paytas (139:10)

But, yeah, the end is here.

Oscar (139:12)

The funeral.

Trisha Paytas (139:13)

I. Yeah.

Oscar (139:14)

What I was gonna say. I wish I wore black. And I did.

Trisha Paytas (139:17)

Subconsciously, I thought you were doing Justin Bieber. You look very Justin Bieber. One less Lily girl.

Oscar (139:22)

It is very. Like, never say never.

Trisha Paytas (139:23)

Yeah.

Oscar (139:24)

Yeah. Okay. Work. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (139:27)

So. Yes, they. I did. They looked fierce.

Oscar (139:29)

I know. I really wanted to do, like, a little veil or something, too, because they didn't make the veils look so cute.

Trisha Paytas (139:34)

Yeah.

Oscar (139:35)

Our final episode for my wedding dress.

Trisha Paytas (139:37)

Dress. I don't know where it is. Oh, yeah. Could have worn one.

Oscar (139:39)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (139:39)

They looked so cute.

Oscar (139:41)

Yeah. And three hours. Three and a half hours.

Trisha Paytas (139:43)

Very.

Oscar (139:44)

Just Trish nachos.

Trisha Paytas (139:45)

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that's what they were going for.

Oscar (139:49)

And I. My biggest regret, though, is not buying an ad read because, damn it is getting a lot of views in less than 24 hours.

Trisha Paytas (139:54)

But wait, really? What is it at?

Oscar (139:56)

What? Last time I checked in was this morning. And they. They love a late Sunday upload.

Trisha Paytas (140:01)

They're like midnight.

Oscar (140:02)

Yeah. 1:00am and it was at like 300, 000 this morning.

Trisha Paytas (140:05)

Wow.

Oscar (140:05)

Yeah. So we really messed up.

Trisha Paytas (140:07)

I know. That's. I don't know if we can afford it.

Oscar (140:09)

I know. What are the rate?

Trisha Paytas (140:10)

Crazy. Probably in shout out.

Oscar (140:12)

Like, I was wondering that too. I was like, did their rate go up for their final? Because they had two AD reads and I'm like, did they go up? SE and Lucy and DraftKings. Actually, three.

Trisha Paytas (140:24)

Yeah. I wonder.

Oscar (140:26)

It should have the final episode. That's historic work.

Trisha Paytas (140:29)

You just, like, go out and be like, hey, we have a big Episode coming. Oh, right. I see what you're saying. It's like the last episode forever going to be. Be the one episode people go to. Yeah, yeah, we probably should have. Damn, wouldn't that be funny? And like, not even tell them just like bought it.

Oscar (140:41)

I know, like, who would have give it to my Oscar or something like, here's today's operate.

Trisha Paytas (140:47)

And it's like actually even Devin from not Lovelines over there now. I could have given it to him. Like put the ad read in there.

Oscar (140:54)

Are you gonna miss canceled? Get your dish from just Trish, right? Something like that.

Trisha Paytas (141:00)

Right? Yeah, that's good. Like, we'll also be over there. So go to just. We need them both on here. Maybe we'll get them both. I don't know. You think they'll do double anything anymore? You think they're going to be doing the press rounds together for anything?

Oscar (141:12)

Oh, good question. I mean, I guess they are neighbors. They can't avoid each other forever, but physically neighbors. They're calling each other neighbors, but not really. Brooke is kind of my neighbor. Nachos. Like, it's almost. Yeah, you two. I know.

Trisha Paytas (141:25)

Going around doing, oh my God, Matt.

Oscar (141:27)

Meet the next duo. Yes.

Trisha Paytas (141:30)

Yeah. What is next? Do they say? First of all, I did watch some of it. Obviously it was like early this morning, so I only watched a half hour and I saw some clips, but, like, I didn't watch the full thing. Did they say what's next?

Oscar (141:39)

Not. I mean, Brooke is going to be doing her own thing with like her own channel. I think they talked about it a while ago. It's like the Brooke tries. You're going to be trying different things.

Trisha Paytas (141:50)

They didn't talk about it.

Oscar (141:51)

Not. I don't. I didn't. I'm halfway through. I'm an hour and a half. So I still have an hour to go at this point in time. No.

Trisha Paytas (141:58)

Yeah.

Oscar (141:58)

But potentially towards the end. But Brooke and Tana have talked about it before, though, about how she's gonna be doing that new series. And Tana, you know where she's at. She's gonna be here. So she's gonna hear.

Trisha Paytas (142:12)

Physically, yes or not Loveline or. Yeah, it's so interesting. Yeah. She is in Maui right now. She's. I think she didn't spend a lot of time there. Yeah. I wonder. I. It is so interesting. Like, what is the next. Next era.

Oscar (142:24)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (142:25)

Because it is sad. Like, I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, God, when one thing ends, like, it's sad.

Oscar (142:30)

Yeah. And they were talking about that too, how it is they have always wanted, like, they've previously like, talked about, like ending the episode or ending the podcast like on a high, but have never like been there, like at the point to actually end it. And now that they find really are ending on like a personal high note of as far as them being like mentally sound and in relationships and stuff, it is like, it feels so different. Different. Brooke said at first she was having like a harder time. Like for Tana, it might have been a little bit easier to come to terms with the ending versus Brooke. At first she was like, pretty adamant that that's what she wanted. But then as it became real, she started like second guessing a little bit. But she is like obviously happy with the decision because of just the content, the plot of Canceled. Really?

Trisha Paytas (143:13)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, yeah. You just kind of know when it's. But. But going out high on a high note is like the best way because going out when people are like, don't care anymore, it's kind of like, okay, you just fade off into oblivion. But going out when people still care, it's good. And then it just opens you up to do other stuff because it doesn't mean you went out because people aren't watching. You went out because you don't want.

Oscar (143:31)

To do it anymore. Yeah, and Tana said that too. She was like, I've never been the one to like leave the casino, like when I'm winning, you know, so it was like a big for her to do it. Yeah, I love that little metaphor.

Trisha Paytas (143:41)

I love the apology segment too. And she's like, you know what? Zack saying Brooke said Zach Sandon deserve the criticism. And Tina's like, you know what? We're gonna go out. We're gonna go out. I think he did deserve it. I think he got the karma. I was like, damn, I do love it, like, because Brooke was like, yeah, maybe didn't deserve all that. And I was like, damn.

Oscar (143:59)

Yeah. Shout out Devin for producer Devin for the sorry, not sorry segment.

Trisha Paytas (144:03)

Oh, is that what I want? That's so funny.

Oscar (144:07)

I know. It was like work.

Trisha Paytas (144:08)

Yeah. Yeah. Well, did Hannah have any apologies?

Oscar (144:10)

I didn't get to her part so far? Every. Everyone that came. I'm in the like in that segment right now. And the first one was Alyssa Violet.

Trisha Paytas (144:18)

Alyssa Violet feud. I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry in the slightest. I stand on everything I said and I think she. That her making that TikTok laughing in that drive thru and all of that and you know, shaming me for of. And all of those things were diabolical. Everything I said was true about her demeanor and whatnot, but it did, in the end, teach me a lot about the weight of the platform. And I don't condone the amount of, like, hate she got, but she also made that TikTok. You know, you're standing in the kitchen and that's the heat. So it's hard. It did teach me, though, a lot.

Oscar (144:52)

About the weight of the platform and on both ends, not sorry.

Trisha Paytas (144:57)

Oh, wow.

Oscar (144:58)

And then it was.

Trisha Paytas (144:59)

Oh, he presented them people.

Oscar (145:01)

Yeah. Like, they had a list of people who they have had, like, beef with uncanceled. And it was like, you know which one? It was a waitress at a restaurant in LAX where she had her feet on the table. And Brooke was sorry on Tana's behalf, but Tana was not sorry on her behalf.

Trisha Paytas (145:19)

She's like, I'm just not sorry anybody.

Oscar (145:21)

Yeah, well. And then she was. She did give her apologies to Mod Son, who she talked about. Oh. And said that he didn't deserve, like, the. The wrath of Cancel because she, like, if he told his side of the story of what Tana did in that incident, which I kind of forget what happened there, but.

Trisha Paytas (145:38)

Yeah, I have no idea.

Oscar (145:39)

The story would also, like, look like a bad person, too. Whatever. So it was like, one of those things where, you know, two sides of every story. So she did. That was the one so far.

Trisha Paytas (145:47)

Okay, that's good. There's. Yeah. I also love someone was just like, no, not sorry. You know what I mean?

Oscar (145:52)

Yeah. T. But yeah, it is just. It is sad at the end of an era. But Alyssa Violet kind of. It's funny because they. In the. Obviously, they filmed this over a month ago.

Trisha Paytas (146:04)

Right.

Oscar (146:04)

So the timing is funny because Alyssa Violet was just on this, like, Netflix competition, like, influencer competition.

Trisha Paytas (146:11)

I saw this. What is this show?

Oscar (146:13)

I honestly am so confused. Yeah. I have no idea.

Trisha Paytas (146:17)

By the sidemen.

Oscar (146:18)

Yeah, I know Valkyrie. I've seen it because Valkyrie is on, like, the poster for it of the show.

Trisha Paytas (146:24)

It's on Netflix.

Oscar (146:25)

Yeah, it's on Netflix show. Yeah. And I know Valkyrie is on the poster of it. That's how I've seen it.

Trisha Paytas (146:32)

I saw Fanita and Zach Justice. That's how I saw this.

Oscar (146:34)

Oh, are they on it, too? Yeah. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (146:35)

I was like.

Oscar (146:36)

And.

Trisha Paytas (146:40)

Clarification.

Oscar (146:41)

And I saw this clip of it was Alyssa, and I think sketch I want to say is his name.

Trisha Paytas (146:48)

Okay.

Oscar (146:48)

And he asked her, you were once called the meanest girl in la. If it's not you. Then who is it? And then Alyssa goes, oh, yes, I saw this. Oh, Tana Mojo. I don't like her podcast. And she makes things up and then like, the timing. Because in this final episode of Cancel in the Game. But like, honestly, like, if she didn't, like enjoy being in on it and like going in on them again and like, have fun with like trying to like poke at them, you know, then they would feel differently. But because she like always rehashes it and she takes the opportunities, like, to poke.

Trisha Paytas (147:21)

Yes, I saw, I saw that too. And a lot of people in the comments were like, you know, a lot has been said about Tana, but no one's ever called her a mean girl. Like, you know, no one says she's mean. Like, I think flaky. There's so many things you could say in the past, but there's so many things you could say about her. And it's like, me too straight.

Oscar (147:36)

Like, because when I first met her, I was a stranger. 100%.

Trisha Paytas (147:39)

Yeah.

Oscar (147:40)

And. And almost gives me you. This is baby Tana too. This was like 20, I don't know, the year of Tanacons. When the first time I met her, I think. And every time I met her after that, like, overly nice, where it was like, I'd be like, oh, I like your hoodie or whatever. She's like, oh, my God, I'm gonna send you all of my. Like, yeah, it like goes above and beyond. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (148:00)

Literally everybody. Yeah.

Oscar (148:01)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (148:02)

And she's always been like that to me too. Before we did the podcast, before this podcast. And I think she's always been like, like, so.

Oscar (148:06)

And there's been. I've seen like random people on Tick Tock who'd be like, yeah, like, I didn't really know her, but I like went up to her at a bar or something or at a club and she was like, come with me, we're going here next. Like, and she like took them and like they would bar hop. Like, obviously it was a while ago, but like bar hopped and club top together.

Trisha Paytas (148:24)

Yes.

Oscar (148:24)

So that was truly.

Trisha Paytas (148:26)

Though maybe she. Because she had like a bad interaction with. Yeah. So she's probably like, okay, mean girl. But like, I do think in general, everyone is like. Because I've seen her be when we're on public, like, she's overly nice to every fan that comes up. Like, she could be eating half bite and she absolutely take pictures with people. So I don't know. I mean, obviously they just. She had beef with each other. But yeah, it is it's like, so especially it. Was it on the Netflix show or just an interview about it?

Oscar (148:48)

It was on the Netflix show. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (148:49)

That's so funny. That's so random. I know, because you think this is my moment. I'm not gonna give to me as like, people I don't like. I'm like, I'm not giving them any credit during my moment, you know?

Oscar (148:58)

Know, that's what I was thinking too. I was like, if I was her, I would have been like, yeah. It's like, I think people love, like, when people own things, like, for good or bad. So it's like, yeah, that was. She could even have spun it to be, like, past tense. I would say, yeah, that was me. Like, if she did it, took it, reclaimed it, but. But it's a past tense to be like, oh, I'm not like that anymore. Then like, okay, right. You know, that would have been tea.

Trisha Paytas (149:22)

But I'm like, girl, no, that show seems messy. I don't know what it is. It just looks very messy.

Oscar (149:27)

No, I know. From the little. I. I know it seems.

Trisha Paytas (149:29)

Oh, my God. One girl was talking about Finita. Finita just turns her. She's like, oh, like, you're fake. You're a fake. Like, it's crazy. I was like, what is the show? Because I think the girl was just talking to someone else that would, like, didn't mean to be seen by. By Finita. And then Finita saw it. It was like a hidden camera thing. It was something so weird. And I was like. And Zach, justice being on. I mean, I don't know. The whole show seems. Seems a mess, but what are you gonna do? I guess it's not Mr. Beast making people go into a burning house. I saw a tweet that's like, I would stay in that burning house just so it would change the trajectory.

Oscar (149:57)

Change the trajectory of Mr. Beast's life. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (149:59)

Because, like, actually, though, like, what if that happened? Like, what if someone actually. You know what I mean? Like, what?

Oscar (150:06)

Yeah, I guess the behind the scenes, there was an article about, like, who was it? Bloomberg. And we can get into it more on the Patreon, but Bloomberg did, like, a interview with them when they were conceptualizing this video and talked about how, like, they interviewed the. His, like, head of production or whatever, and she got the idea first for would you risk burning alive for $500,000? She got the idea first for the title and thumbnail. That's how they come up with videos and then they figure out how to do it after. And I Guess in the video, and this is just me. Whatever. I'm not advocating for him. Just saying, I guess it was a stuntman. They had a kill switch for the fire to shut it off right away. I don't know. The whole thing did seem very like.

Trisha Paytas (150:51)

Is that even possible? A kill switch for a fire? You have to put a fire out. Like, I mean, and then you just, like, suck up the flames.

Oscar (150:59)

See? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And there was also, I guess, ventilation. So he was inhaling smoke. I don't know. That's just what they said to me is still, like, bananas.

Trisha Paytas (151:09)

Because people who don't know that they see the title thumbnail. These, like, boys is trying pranks. Like, let's do that. Let's all do that. You know, like, so weird. Wins.

Oscar (151:17)

It's very squid game.

Trisha Paytas (151:19)

Yeah, he's really come for those. Squid game. Literally burning the moment.

Oscar (151:25)

But I did write Alyssa Violet a poem because I was inspired by.

Trisha Paytas (151:28)

Oh, no. Okay, I support. But, like. Okay, you wrote it. Okay, I support. I love it.

Oscar (151:37)

I love Tana's poem. I thought. Do you remember it?

Trisha Paytas (151:40)

No.

Oscar (151:40)

Oh, that's when she first. Yes. When she first addressed it. She wrote a poem for Alyssa. Alyssa, Alyssa, Alyssa.

Trisha Paytas (151:50)

What are we going to do?

Oscar (151:52)

Do? You've caused us a big mess with.

Trisha Paytas (151:56)

Your mean girl stew. Alternate line. I think that it's time to put down the cauldron and broom. She's a witch. All of this mess just so you can use David's pool. Oh, you came at me for shaming, but then said, I sell my hole. But if it weren't for marshmello, you'd be on a pole. Oh, no. Okay, well, Tia's pretty good at poetry, too. She writes good songs.

Oscar (152:25)

Songwriter. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (152:26)

Let's hear it.

Oscar (152:27)

This isn't so. It won't be as funny because you don't know the poem. But. But maybe the girls at home will appreciate it. I think. Maybe not. Maybe this will flop. Maybe this is my Theo Vaughn, like, flop moment. Now I'm, like, sitting down.

Trisha Paytas (152:43)

Fine. I'm sure people will love people. Love you. Go. I love you, Alyssa.

Oscar (152:48)

Alyssa, Alyssa. What are we going to do with you? Your name's only in the press when you're acting a mess. It's time to grow up. Let's give it a rest. Alyssa, Alyssa, Alyssa. I hate to have to tell this to you. Do you even hear what you say? Calling Tana the meanest in LA when your bestie nearly killed someone with a crane kind of rhyme.

Trisha Paytas (153:13)

Okay. I love it.

Oscar (153:15)

You ate Alyssa Alyssa. Alyssa. There's just no getting through. Tia. Who knew violets had thorns? Stop shaming girls for doing porn so I don't have to be forlorn. That's my poem.

Trisha Paytas (153:28)

Yeah.

Moses (153:29)

Thank you. Thank you.

Trisha Paytas (153:30)

That was actually very good. No idea what forlorn means, but I love. I love the violet with thorns. That was good.

Oscar (153:37)

Okay. I think I ate with that.

Trisha Paytas (153:38)

That was really like, Ed Sheeran or Eminem. It was very, like, poetic. I loved it. You're great. Honestly. Record a song.

Oscar (153:49)

Me writing for Tana's debut album.

Trisha Paytas (153:51)

Yes.

Oscar (153:52)

Her debut country album. That kind of would be feared.

Trisha Paytas (153:54)

Oh, my God. Watch out. Zach, Bryan, get on stage with your guitar. Oh, my God. Everything. That was good, actually. Well, you know, we're also hoping for everyone to change and grow, so there's room for Alyssa to do that. Maybe not on this Netflix show. Maybe it was on another one on.

Oscar (154:09)

The To Be show. Yeah. Yeah. Go to Tubi. Alyssa, I'm here for real. I liked her at one point, and so, you know. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (154:17)

She seems like after I was watching, like, I was. I was really deep into, like, a Jake Paul, Logan Paul thing, like, when they were younger and I was not familiar, but, like, Alyssa went from, like, a diss track and, like, rice gum to, like, Logan Paul's. Like. She was kind of, like, all. And I was like, I kind of feel for the girl. She did a video after, like, her and Jake Paul broke up, and she's like, yeah, he, like, bring girls home and, like, have sex with them, like, right next to my room. So I'd have to hear them. But I couldn't leave because she had nowhere to go. Like, so he sounds like. And I kind of felt bad for her. So I have. I have a soft spot for her. Me, too.

Oscar (154:45)

And she had a messy breakup with Faze Banks, and I really felt bad for her there, too.

Trisha Paytas (154:49)

Guys can traumatize you.

Oscar (154:50)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (154:50)

You can have some PTSD from bad relationships. So holding out for her girl.

Oscar (154:55)

Me too, I think.

Trisha Paytas (154:56)

Right? We hold out for every girl.

Oscar (154:57)

Everybody. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (154:58)

Everyone can change and grow.

Oscar (155:00)

Yes. Come on.

Trisha Paytas (155:03)

Period. And boys continue to grow, too, people. That's true. That's true. Everyone's changing and growing. Well, you guys, I'm sad. Our Arby's income. By the end of this, I thought our Arby's would be here and then we'd have a little party, but it want to see the desserts. Oscar got us our Arby's and probably a hot topic or two. Going over to patreon.com just today. We love you guys. Thanks for the laughs. We love being here to entertain you. And we'll be here in a couple days to entertain you on Thursday. So check it out. We'll be here in October. Next time.

Oscar (155:35)

Bill, you're can't. The hole in the cancel hole in your heart.

Trisha Paytas (155:39)

Right.

Oscar (155:40)

With just trish.

Trisha Paytas (155:41)

With just Trish.

Oscar (155:42)

Right. That. We'll work on it. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (155:44)

Didn't rhyme, but it was pretty. Fill the canceled hole.

Oscar (155:50)

Fill that canceled hole.

Trisha Paytas (155:51)

Fill that canceled hole period. With just Trish. Okay. We love you guys. We'll see you in the next one. Bye. Happy trails to cancelled. We love you, girls.