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Trisha Paytas
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Jimmy Wetzel
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
What do we do about it? Call the Congress. I want to do something. But like, what can you do?
Trisha Paytas
Have a fourth K.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yay, mom. Don't jiggle. Jiggle it goes. That's what I think. I look at this.
Trisha Paytas
It must be jelly. Cuz jam don't shake.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I love that.
Trisha Paytas
That's a RuPaul song. That's a RuPaul song.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, really? Okay.
Trisha Paytas
Love peanut butter.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's called peanut butter, but it's called. It must be jelly if my jam don't change.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, you know.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. Listen to it. Stream peanut butter everywhere. Hi guys. Welcome back to Just Trish podcast. We're so excited to be here. It is our last weekend in May. May has been a great month for us. And our co host of the day, filling in for Oscar, who is just busy at the AMAs, is our very own Just Trish editor slash really fourth co host at this point, Jimmy.
Trisha Paytas
Hello, everybody. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, you got it right.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you. For me, I'll add more.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, just have it be so loud. Jimmy, you. You really have won the hearts of everyone here at Just Trish. Every audience member, every comment, and I send them to you too. I'm always just like, everything is about your editing and I don't watch them back. So then I have to go watch for the edits. And I'm like, wow, it is so good. And they always go viral on TikTok people. The editing makes the whole show. So if you're an audio listener. We love you. But also come watch the podcast after.
Trisha Paytas
In the most recent episode, I did a little Hope Core Trisha monologue that I had been waiting to do one of those for a while. I was like, it's got to be, like, the right subject matter, the right amount of talking. I need, like, the right. I gotta get the files a little earlier. So I have, like, a full hour and a half to make it. Like, it all just worked out, like, perfectly last week. So I did it, and I saw a bunch of comments being like, I'm an audio listener, but when I heard the classical music start playing, I knew Jimmy was doing some bullshit.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, they knew in the audio.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. They were like, I gotta put it on the tv.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. I always love when you send me a clip, too, because I'm always like. And I love posting. I post it right away. I love it so much. And then people get so excited. And then, of course, I always have to tell you, because people know I don't edit, so they know it's not me. I'm like, Jimmy.
Trisha Paytas
And I think so many people are like, I thought this was a fan account.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. All the time.
Trisha Paytas
I treat the podcast like that. I'm like, you know what? Whatever I can do to make it fun.
Jimmy Wetzel
Those get the most views on TikTok. I always see fan edits, and they get, like, more views than I get. I was like, we need to start doing fan edits for sure for ourselves. So, you know, you crush it always with it. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you very much.
Jimmy Wetzel
Is it gonna be hard to edit yourself today?
Trisha Paytas
A little bit. I think I was nervous about it with my boyfriend. I was talking to him about it, and I was just like, oh, you know, like, what if I say something stupid? He's like, you edit it. Like, you can take it out. Like, you can literally make the whole podcast about you if you really wanted to.
Jimmy Wetzel
I was just like, are you gonna do a whole new edit?
Trisha Paytas
I think you should. I only have this camera the whole time, so I'm not used to the microphone.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's actually so Tea. You could do that. You could also do that. Put it on yours. Just put the. Jimmy. It just be like, this is what.
Trisha Paytas
It would look like. Jimmy, cut.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
My reaction to everything.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Because there is multiple cameras. I never think about that. Like, you're shifting through camera angle. How do you choose? How do you know?
Trisha Paytas
It's so. It sounds insane when I say it, but, like, so I have, like, the timeline with the audio, and I, like, layer the video on top of it. So I'm watching the waveform of, like, Moses's mic, your mic, Oscar's mic. And I, like, look for it to spike for when someone's about to start talking. And then I have your four cameras tied to the 1, 2, 3, 4 buttons on my computer. And then I'm also looking at them, so kind of looking at two things at once. And then I'll see Oscar, like, about to respond to something you're saying. So I switch to Oscar's camera, and then I see, like, oh, in a minute. Trisha's about to reply, so I switch back to you. And then sometimes I'll, like, just watch, like, if Oscar's talking for a while, just to keep it moving, the camera, I'll, like, look and see, like, oh, if you nod your head and I switch to that, I kind of. I lock in. And then when you guys are talking about, like, Mr. Beast and you call him Jimmy, I, like, get woken up from a trance. Like, I'm a freaking sleeper agent, and I'm like, oh, it's not me.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God, that's. I didn't even think about that. So. Yeah. Because there'll be times when Moses is talking and I'm just, like, dozing off or whatever. And you cut to that. I'm not even saying anything. My sound waves are blank.
Trisha Paytas
It's like you're in math class. You're not paying attention, but you're just like. I love that you, like. You repeat the question to, like, try.
Jimmy Wetzel
To show it's always whatever the last thing you said be like, really? The water really does that? That's crazy.
Trisha Paytas
I. I love that, like, I'll get to hear a little comment because, like, I'm looking at the setup now. There's four. Four giant lights completely blocking Moses's face. It's like you're looking into, like, the headlights of a car.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Like, you don't see anything. Your eyes adjust. So, like, it makes sense that sometimes someone's little commentary might get lost in the shuffle.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, always. Because. Can you see him from where you're at?
Trisha Paytas
I can, but, like, only out of the corner of my eye.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. And that's what made you, like, if I look. And it literally is so bright. Yeah. There's four lights. Is it four or five? There's like.
Oscar
Oh, yeah, there's a lot.
Trisha Paytas
There's some up here.
Jimmy Wetzel
And it does. Even looking like Oscar, it's not as bad because there's not as many lights this way, but, like, looking this way, it's still like, by the end of the show, I feel like I'm hallucinating a little bit because the lights are so bright, which I love because, like, washed me out. But Moses, I can barely see. And then when he starts talking about stuff because again, podcast Moses is very different than our normal day to day life Moses, he doesn't tell me. So when he starts talking, sometimes I'm like, what? Like, people love it. There's a sense of humor for everybody.
Trisha Paytas
I like when I catch a little Moses joke and I'm like, I got it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, you'll say that too.
Trisha Paytas
I thought it was funny. I'm the droplet in the room.
Jimmy Wetzel
How are you? Wow. Okay. Well, I'm a droplet too. But, you know, for other reasons.
Trisha Paytas
I like when you guys have the, the husband wife little conversation.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh my gosh.
Trisha Paytas
Forget what it was about recently. But you were talking about.
Oscar
It was one about gossiping.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oscar
Should you gossip with your partner?
Trisha Paytas
I was like, who doesn't do that? And it's not even like gossip.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's like, yes.
Trisha Paytas
Like we, we go to Errors of Trish and we're just talking about like, oh, it was amazing. Oh. And then when this person showed up, I was just like, oh, my God. I didn't think they would be here. And it's like, it's just like a debrief, right? Exactly. Yes, exactly. It's not gossip. It's.
Jimmy Wetzel
But I also feel like if you, if you are like, I don't consider myself a anymore. But it's like, if there's one person I'm going to like, event to, it's gonna be Moses.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
And I think it's like normal. That's why that was so annoying when that couple was just like. When the husband to the wife was like, I hate that you turn everything into negative. I was just saying like, okay, it's kind of annoying that your family just always like, it's like, so. Yeah. Which by the way, Oscar was not in the room. We have to reiterate that one too.
Trisha Paytas
Kind of pissed off that day. So I cut him out. He got the little boo boo I wanted, so I cut him out completely.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, we have a little boo boo hot topic we should get to. But before we get into that, Eras of Trish tour continues this weekend. I'm coming to Missouri. I'm coming to two cities in Missouri. Kansas City, St. Louis, Missouri, and Nashville, Tennessee at the Ryman, where we're gonna have exclusive Ryman T shirts, which I'm really excited. So if you've been to all the special stops, the Ryman will have a special costume, special song and and a special T shirt. And then we're having special T shirts. For our last weekend of the tour, which is our first weekend in June, which is the first pride weekend. We have fans and rainbow shirts available. So if you're collecting them all, come to all the tour stops and yeah, we will see you there. Also patreon.com just trish. Well, we'll do extended podcast episodes and bonus videos, plus our headshot of the month and our stickers. Is there anything you want to promote before we get in here? Jimmy, your Twitch.
Trisha Paytas
Oh yeah, I stream on Twitch. Twitch TV, JimmyWetzel. I will put it on the screen.
Jimmy Wetzel
You do it. Beautiful. Every time.
Trisha Paytas
A little pop in.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I stream multiple times a week. Nintendo Switch 2 is coming out June 5th. I do have a pre order and I will be streaming plenty of games. Play Mario Kart with me.
Jimmy Wetzel
What is that? What? Should I get one? How do you get a Switch.
Trisha Paytas
And refresh Best buys website like 50 times.
Jimmy Wetzel
Could I get one now if I want on now to order?
Trisha Paytas
Probably not, but I imagine there's gonna be somebody selling a day of because you had to get a pre order and that was like crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
So it's gonna ship to you on June.
Trisha Paytas
I pick it up day of at Best Buy. My boyfriend got one and his is getting shipped to him. But I was like, oh, I've had mail stolen. I'm not dealing with that. So I will just go pick it up. That way I can make sure I have it day of.
Jimmy Wetzel
So you both are gamers? Both you and Dallas? Yes, we are Both tauruses.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. Seven days apart. Wow. Yeah, our dog is six days exactly seven days apart. Oh, no, no, no. He's two years older than me. 30 actually. How old are you?
Jimmy Wetzel
27, 28. Oh my God, you're so young.
Trisha Paytas
I know.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh my God. Are you friends with Joey Graceffa? I'm not, but he's a Taurus gamer too.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, wait, I know, I know of Joey. Yeah, but we saw Daniel at Errors of Trish and. Oh, they just.
Jimmy Wetzel
You know him?
Trisha Paytas
No, but Dallas does. I'm just like, hi, I'm here. I edited your episode.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did he know?
Trisha Paytas
No, I don't think so.
Jimmy Wetzel
But he knew Dallas. Yeah. Oh, okay. So Dallas is the one because like seems okay.
Trisha Paytas
Got it. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Lover knows you now.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't really know any many gay people that did YouTube for a long time.
Jimmy Wetzel
Really?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
How did you meet, like, Ricky Dillon through Dallas.
Trisha Paytas
Actually, Ricky and Dallas have been friends for a long, long time. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Love, Ricky Dylan. Have you seen him lately?
Trisha Paytas
Not lately, but recently enough. Like, within the last couple months. He came to our Halloween party. I think this was the last time we saw each other.
Jimmy Wetzel
Is he still the same?
Trisha Paytas
I mean, I didn't know him before, so. Right.
Jimmy Wetzel
But, like, online, like, do you see him online? That's the same Ricky.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, probably. He just started doing videos again. Actually, I loved him.
Jimmy Wetzel
He was an editor for a while, too. I remember he used to edit.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Now he's all big and buff. He got so big.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Good friend.
Trisha Paytas
He's great. He's really loved Ricky. Love his dog Oliver.
Jimmy Wetzel
Cute. I remember he came out as asexual, and I thought that was so cool because not enough asexual representation out there.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I don't know what he says.
Trisha Paytas
That's a spectrum, too. Like, some people just have lower sex drives and.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. And I think it's, like, such a real thing I talk about all the time with my glam team. I'm like, obviously, it's a real thing. But I was just like. Even for me sometimes, I'm always like. Even when I was younger, I used to obviously, like, that was my job, is, like, having sex with people, but I literally. Not, like, literally as an. That sounds crazy, but, you know. Yeah, let me reframe that.
Oscar
Corporate Americ.
Jimmy Wetzel
That was my job title. But even back then, like, I always think, like, oh, my God. I was like, so, like, loved it as horn, but actually, I don't think I did. When I, like, reflect on it, like, in therapy, I was like. I think I was kind of asexual, where I kind of, like, didn't care. Which is why it was so easy for me to just hook up with, like, random people, because I was kind of like, I don't really enjoy it. You know, back then, I was just kind of like. It wasn't until I met someone, like, I was, like, in love with that. I was like, okay, I like it, but I don't think I ever did before. I was kind of like. But I think I portrayed myself as hypersexual because that was, like, the character. Right. Oh, I love sex. I love this. But in reality, I was like, I don't know if I really care.
Trisha Paytas
I get that completely. Completely.
Jimmy Wetzel
So I like when people talk about it, I was like, is there an A in the lgbtq? No.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. LGBTQIA Plus, I believe there's also two S for two. Spirit. What's two Spirit Gosh.
Oscar
Native.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it's like Native American. It's like, indigenous. Very similar to trans non binary, I believe.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
I've only learned about it through Canada's Drag Race. Really?
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, really? Is there someone that represents it?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, there's been a few. I don't know, like, for sure. I don't want to say, like, specific names because I don't know for sure.
Jimmy Wetzel
But they talk about it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they try to have at least like, one or two. Two spirit queens or just trans non binary queens each season in Canada.
Jimmy Wetzel
Love that so much.
Oscar
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Because I think learning every day, and I think it's important when people talk about it because there's so many things I always talk about. It's like when you're, like, young, you kind of, like, don't know. You're like. Well, I don't really fall in this category. This category. So it's always good sometimes just to, like, feel like other people identify the way you do or just feel the same way you do.
Trisha Paytas
I love the word queer. I just use it all the time. The queers, the gays.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love all encompassing. Yeah, Yeah, I love it too. We love it. Queer Pride coming up. Are you at any of the Prides?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I'll be at Wheel Pride. I don't know which day. It's like three days. They have, like, a festival, like a music festival similar to what you're doing this weekend.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's out loud, right? Yeah, it starts off this weekend. Maybe on the actual Pride. There's probably stuff.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
But I know there's out loud this weekend. And then. Yeah, then there's the We Hope Pride the following weekend, which is like, more like parade. And.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I'll probably just be at the parade. I do like the parade.
Jimmy Wetzel
I know I would have loved to have been, like, on a float at the parade or something. That'd be so cool.
Trisha Paytas
Next year. Next year, Jester's Foe, I'll be the Trish Crew. I'll wear little booty shorts. I'll be dancing. I'll do it.
Jimmy Wetzel
I will gag. We need to get a little boo boo cussed out for it.
Trisha Paytas
The will be over. You think, well, it's not gonna go away forever. Like, there will be, like, me. I will be clinging onto it forever. I think it'll peak this summer and then it'll be back to, like, okay, that was fun. And then 20 years from now, you'll be seeing nostalgia. 2025 TikToks from Jen, whatever comes after Beta. And they'll be like, oh, my God. Beta 2025 Nostalgia Starter Pack. And it's like, Labu Boo.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's gonna be so crazy. Always a Benson Boone throw.
Oscar
He's into Hot Topic.
Jimmy Wetzel
He's at the American Music Awards. I think I saw Tana talking about how she wants to see him flip. That's what she's. Because she's going tonight. Everyone at the AMAs. Oscar is there, Tana's there Benson Boone. And Tana's like, I just want to see him flip. Honestly, it's what people like about Benson Boone these days.
Trisha Paytas
I think he should come on the podcast. But I promise, even though I'm not a Booner, I don't know crazy. I'm a gooner.
Jimmy Wetzel
Goon camp you.
Trisha Paytas
I'm going to use them for the Not Loveline Patreon. I'll put that on here as well.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, do we goonie there for Everybody else?
Trisha Paytas
Episode 25. You did some goon faces for the thumbnail? Because after. For those who don't know that should. I should put some of those on a video so Oscar can upload them. Just you in silence, posing, like, for the thumbnails.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did I do it here or not Loveline.
Trisha Paytas
You do it here. But then you also do them with Tana on Not Loveline.
Jimmy Wetzel
But I did a gooning one.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Jimmy Wetzel
On purpose.
Trisha Paytas
You think you're like.
Jimmy Wetzel
It'S in me now.
Trisha Paytas
There was literally only, like, one non gooning face in the last, like, episode, so I'm gonna have to use one for Patreon. So the thumbnail for Not Loveline Patreon is gonna be crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
I can't wait. We film tomorrow. We'll make sure to do more gooning ones. I love it. I think it's cute. But people are so shook. I think Gen Z takes it so much more, like, sexual than I think it is. I think it's, like, cutesy. But I talked about it in Sacramento. I was doing gooning faces because they had the Jumbotrons. So I was like, oh, my God, I can go in here. And I was like, she keeps saying it. I'm like. As if it's like this crazy. I'm like, to me, it just sounds so silly.
Trisha Paytas
It. It is fully asexual.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do you think sexual? I don't even think sex. I think it's so silly.
Oscar
I don't think about it at all. But in my mind, what I do, I change the word with masturbate.
Jimmy Wetzel
Is that what it means?
Oscar
So I can actually. So I can actually Use it properly so I don't misuse it.
Trisha Paytas
Similar to, like, edging. I think it's like, you're so. You're so crazy for 30 minutes.
Jimmy Wetzel
For you two minutes in.
Trisha Paytas
It'S. Oh, my God. It's like you're so into it that you can't control your face.
Jimmy Wetzel
But no one makes those faces when they're doing that. No one is going, like, nobody makes.
Trisha Paytas
Twitter will have you think otherwise.
Jimmy Wetzel
I don't know what sex y' all are having. I mean, like, biting lips, squeezing, things like that. But, like, throwing your tongue out and crossing your eyes. That's crazy. I want to see it, film it. I need to see it, because I have never once done that.
Trisha Paytas
It's been documented.
Jimmy Wetzel
People are doing it on purpose as.
Trisha Paytas
A troll, you know, Elon took it over, but it's still kicking.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love it.
Trisha Paytas
By the grace of God is.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, interesting. Because, like, he does run Twitter. Can he, like, ban something like that?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure you can get shadow banned or something if you tweet cisgender, which is not a slur. No way. But he fully believes it is.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, really? Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
That's so stupid.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. And it's crazy because, yeah, like, Twitter is kind of fun again. So it kind of. Or X or whatever. So it kind of sucks that that's, like, happening.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
What do we do about it? Call the Congress. I want to do something. But, like, what can you do?
Trisha Paytas
Have a fourth kid?
Oscar
You have to become a billionaire and.
Trisha Paytas
Buy it, you know?
Jimmy Wetzel
I know. Part of me is like, I should just keep this factory open at this point. What we need. I don't know. Some of the people. People are wishing on my uterus. I'm like, I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
We gotta keep it. We gotta keep it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like Pope Francis.
Trisha Paytas
He may have dropped an epsilon here and there, but who?
Jimmy Wetzel
Who? Pope Francis did. Or Pope Leo. Oh, I thought he was for the game.
Trisha Paytas
He was, but he would also say, like, like a chino.
Oscar
Maybe he was just ordering Starbucks.
Jimmy Wetzel
But that's. I mean, it's kind of cutesy, though.
Trisha Paytas
No, I. I mean, I.
Oscar
Does that translate? Is that actually what it means?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. Wait, what do you mean? It was literally almost like the Epsler with, like.
Jimmy Wetzel
But it wasn't.
Oscar
We don't know in Latin. What? Oh, okay.
Jimmy Wetzel
So it wasn't, like, derogatory.
Trisha Paytas
I have to look up exactly what it was now, because it literally might as well have been that, because it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Really was saying it like a Cutesy way. I'm like, that's kind of funny, I guess, if you're saying that like that. But if it was an Italian word or something, it was very much his.
Trisha Paytas
His whole mindset was like, love the sinner, not the sin. And, like, it was. It was progressive for the Catholic Church, and, like, we're cool with that.
Jimmy Wetzel
He was trying to get somewhere. Yeah, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Let me see. Gay slur. Pope Francis, gay slur.
Oscar
Latin.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I gotta put in Latin. Let's see here.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's so funny. I didn't know. Okay.
Trisha Paytas
Froggachini.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, okay. That's it. Frogguccini is.
Oscar
He turned the frogs gay.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, Froguccini. They put the chemicals in the water. In the holy water. It's a highly offensive slang term in Italian referring to gay men and gay male culture. So.
Jimmy Wetzel
Really?
Trisha Paytas
According to. What is this? Vulture.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Crediting npr.org okay.
Jimmy Wetzel
They probably know. Oh. Oh, my God. Okay, so what?
Trisha Paytas
He was using it. We'll see you soon.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay, well, you know, was he saying it in like a bat, where he's just, like, addressing.
Trisha Paytas
I actually, you know, let me look up the contest. Let's be fair.
Jimmy Wetzel
Let's.
Oscar
Talking about the word homosexual, you know, sometimes.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. Which I. I don't get offended by that, but I definitely prefer the gays. I think the gaze is fun.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, okay. That's it. That's what we were talking about last time. The gaze is cute. Right? I mean, if I were to be like, where's my homosexuals at?
Trisha Paytas
It's like.
Jimmy Wetzel
I mean, I guess it's kind of cute, but also, I think, where's the hobos? Yeah. What's the other one? I didn't know. Oh, the horos unidos. Right.
Trisha Paytas
That killed me.
Jimmy Wetzel
I mean, people said it's cutesy.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. It's very much like reclaiming. Like, I have a labu bo with a shirt that has the upslow on it and a jockstrap winaboo.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay, Jockstrap.
Trisha Paytas
I almost brought one today.
Jimmy Wetzel
Are they queer?
Trisha Paytas
Wallabuboos aren't queer.
Jimmy Wetzel
They are.
Trisha Paytas
He's, she's, they. Them.
Oscar
It's fully consensual.
Jimmy Wetzel
He put their pronoun. Cause you're starting an Instagram for them. Right?
Trisha Paytas
I should. I still haven't. Oh, but, you know, probably use the Instagram we made for our dogs first.
Jimmy Wetzel
You never used it.
Trisha Paytas
We haven't in a while. It's. It's. It's. We haven't even updated it for our second dog. It's been that long since we used it, but yeah. Evil baby Ruby.
Jimmy Wetzel
Evil baby Ruby.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it might change, but yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh my God. Why? Is your dog evil?
Trisha Paytas
No, but she does get into mischief. She's very sweet, but she loves to. It was more so when she was younger. She would steal socks and get into mischief.
Jimmy Wetzel
How old is she?
Trisha Paytas
She's 4. She just turned 4 on the 20th.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, Taurus or no.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Is that Gemini? Kind of on the cusp.
Trisha Paytas
Definitely cost.
Jimmy Wetzel
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, we went to Florida to see Dallas's family. He's been there like, twice since we moved, but I haven't seen them in a year and a half.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wow.
Trisha Paytas
So. And they're so sweet. They, like, make me feel like I'm direct kin. And. Yeah, it's really nice to talk with them. Yeah, we had. We had a. A night where it's just the two of us. I'll probably cut that, but okay.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, Yeah, I love that. I love. You're editing yourself in real time. You're like, I'll cut that. I like to do that to you too. Because I forget sometimes. I try to remember at the end, but I just like to say, like, jimmy, cut.
Trisha Paytas
I love it because, like, with not Loveline, Devin will send me a voice note he got from Tana of her saying, like, okay, so I want this, this. But there's no episode number, so I have to kind of guess. So I write down everything in a notebook and I'm like, okay, if this ever comes up, this is what she's talking about. I cut that.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love that.
Trisha Paytas
Like, if you want something done, you don't even say it. Sometimes you just go like this.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
With your hand. And I cut it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay, that's good to know. But, yeah, you just edited Yourself. Yeah, I'll cut that part. So they're just close?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his niece and nephew were there, and a couple other family friends brought their kids, and it was just really cute. His niece AJ is 5, and she is just so creative, and she is obsessed with me in Dallas, and it's so cute. She has a. I don't know what. It's been a while, but she has a stuffed tiger named Jimmy, which I think is so cute.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my gosh.
Trisha Paytas
She was writing a little story about two guys who adopt a dog, and she's like, yeah, their names are Dallin, Jim.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, it's kind of like Dallas and Jim at 5.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love her writing. Queer literature for kids.
Trisha Paytas
Literally half the people she knows are gay people. Five people I love.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah. That's literally our daughters, too. This is. Everyone they know is just like, yeah. Oh, my God, that's so cute.
Trisha Paytas
We played Labubu. We brought her one of our extras, and we gave it to her.
Jimmy Wetzel
And. Oh, my God, that's a big deal. You gave a Labubu.
Trisha Paytas
She was obsessed with it. She was. She made crowns out of construction paper. She was the princess, and I was the barista, who.
Jimmy Wetzel
Love that.
Trisha Paytas
I was a service industry worker, and she was royalty. But she. And it was so interesting. She was like, yeah, this is the iPad. You pay. And I was like, we're doomed.
Jimmy Wetzel
Isn't that. Mel was the same way. She has, like, a register. She's like, here's money. I want to go buy slime at Target. I was like, at two and a half.
Trisha Paytas
She made a phone, and I was surprised that she was like, it flips. Because, like, when has she ever seen a flip phone, right? But she was just like, and now we. Now we're gonna talk on it. But then she turned it to the side for, like, a FaceTime, and I was just like, oh, my God, it's wild.
Jimmy Wetzel
Mel holds it up to her ear, and that's why I'm like, where is she seeing that? Because we always. Speakerphone.
Oscar
Eldest does that. Elvis picks up her phone. She's like, hello.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Like, where do they see that? Like, we don't have a house phone. Like, where are they seeing it?
Trisha Paytas
I have friends who are teachers, and they're like, yeah, when kids play house, they hold their hand up to their ear like it's a iPhone. Like, it's a shape like this.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, like this. Now, that's so interesting.
Trisha Paytas
I wonder if even, like, kids are gonna realize, like, the call button on an iPhone is still Like a rotary phone handset.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right, right. Like if they know if it's just pushed. Cause Malibu like, like on our laptop, we look at photos and she likes to touch the screen, you know, even though it like wants to touch it to like blow it up. And it's like. It's really interesting. Yeah. How they learn different things. But giving a lubu is a big deal. I still haven't let Malibu have my little boo boo yet. Maybe it's time to give her one. I don't know. She might be scared of them. They're a little scary, a little monstrous.
Trisha Paytas
I love that they're like a little ugly. Like, that's what attracts me to them personally. Like I love a little gremlin. A goblin.
Oscar
Have you seen the theme park? The.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. I think it's in Beijing. I'll have to fact.
Jimmy Wetzel
Are you going to go?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that. It's a little expensive, I think, but I would love to go.
Jimmy Wetzel
I feel like you guys are bougie. Both of you. Now you're both bougie. Not only are you influencer, you're a full time crazy. You are a gamer. Influencer, full time editor. I was thinking about how many episodes. Like if you do two of these, plus two of our bonus ones, plus a not loveline. Plus a not Loveline. You do six episodes. You're like full time. That's like six episodes a week.
Trisha Paytas
Sunday to Thursday. I'm editing. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's crazy.
Trisha Paytas
My boyfriend makes fun of me because, like, I'll be hanging out with friends and like something will come up. And it's not something that happened to me, it's something that happened to you.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, what happened?
Trisha Paytas
It'll just be like, you know, a random thing. It's like, oh, yeah. Oh, Trish was just talking about this and he's just like, bro. Like they don't.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I see. I see. Because you're editing. So you're just like.
Trisha Paytas
I spent five days a week listening to the same woman talk about things. Like, I like, it's. That's my boss. That's like a co worker. Like I. It's what's happening at work. Like, I gotta talk about it.
Jimmy Wetzel
So funny.
Trisha Paytas
I never even joking. He's like playing with me.
Jimmy Wetzel
Of course, of course. No, that would be. I never thought about that. Like you really are. Because you're hearing all of it. How many hours do you think that is of content a week? Are you editing or sifting through.
Oscar
Each episode? It's close to three hours.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Bonus is an hour, another four or five hours.
Trisha Paytas
It's a lot.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. That is actually so too.
Oscar
And we talk about everything that's happening where there's hot topics occurrence. So if you talk to somebody, it's probably something we kind of cavitate.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it's usually something like pretty recent or like that we talk about like a life story. I don't know. It's been a. It's been a while since he, like, told me that I do that. I've been like, a little bit like, okay, don't the intrusive thought to be like, well, Trish said this about every single thing. Oh, my God, it was so funny on the podcast when Oscar did this.
Jimmy Wetzel
And they're like, what? No, but that's why I had to stop hate watching like, years ago because I would. I would like, hate watch people. But I would like, like, I would like, re. Retalk their, like, phrases that part. And I always remember there's like a clip of me, like, talking about, like, gravity, like not needing gravity. And I remember it coming from a Gabbie Hanna podcast. Like, she said it and the way she explained it was so real. She's like. And she talked about it. So that was like, before me. So it's like, not even like I was trying to be funny because I remember in that, like, clip too. I remember being like, to Moses. I was remembering like, no, who said that? Like, I could come up with this. Like someone was saying this.
Oscar
Really trying to remember. I didn't watch it with her, so I didn't know.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. And no one kn. Because no one was watching the Gap. I love Gabby Hammond was watching it back then. Except for me, apparently. Indeed.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love her now. She seems engaged, happy, Christian. Love it. But I. Back then I would remember being like, I would watch like every podcast and like, yeah, I guess it was like a hate watch. I don't know. But also not hate watching. So funny because it's like you hate watch because you find someone, like, annoying, but then you're still watching it. So are you a fan? I don't know, but probably I could never.
Trisha Paytas
I could never do. I hate watch because I'm just like, I'd rather watch watch people I like because they have, like you, for example. You have so much content. You're probably one of the most documented people on the history of the planet.
Jimmy Wetzel
So scary though, because I forget there was a Post Malone. We should. We should correct that. Last time I was, I did say there was a clip of me saying I got catfished by Post I was like, when girl. But maybe I did and I don't remember because I do block out so many things. I'm like, maybe I don't remember, but it does suck for. I guess it's a blessing and curse to be documented for someone like me who does truly forget things.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's why after that Gabbie Hannah, when I did the interview with her on her podcast, I really wish we would have like, I would have recorded it because so many things get edited and like I don't remember. And because people know I don't remember, I can easily be. I hate the word gaslit, but you can easily be like, you did say this. You didn't. And I'm like, damn, I wish we recorded it. So it's like now I'm just always like, okay, what did I say? I have to be so like hyper conscious about it because of that. Or if I say I've never had a hot dog, people find a clip of me like eating a hot dog, you know, And I was like, that's crazy, crazy, crazy that people remember.
Trisha Paytas
It's great for making like little edits because I'm like, okay, I, I know there's like I need a clip of Trish in her car eating chicken for this Minecraft and I just literally just look alike. Trisha paytas chicken on YouTube. And yeah, I find it and it's like a 45 minute long video.
Jimmy Wetzel
You're like, I'll use this. That Minecraft edit was good too.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you very much.
Jimmy Wetzel
I need to start watching it. But I see it now. It's on Hulu, but I haven't started.
Trisha Paytas
I haven't seen it either.
Jimmy Wetzel
Is there a Minecraft world? Is that because you were just in Florida? You were in Tampa.
Trisha Paytas
We went to New Smyrna Beach. It's between like Jacksonville, Orlando. It's just like a little beach town.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you find any ghosts or anything came back with you or any spirits from Tampa or at Florida? I mean nothing, nothing scary came back with you.
Trisha Paytas
Dallas's parents house is a new build, so that's probably why.
Jimmy Wetzel
But what about just the air?
Trisha Paytas
I brought back pollen and humiliate him. Humidity, congestion.
Jimmy Wetzel
And were you sick after?
Trisha Paytas
I wasn't sick but I definitely needed my allergy medication. For sure.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. I don't know, Florida just always scares me a little bit. And you didn't even make it to Universal. The new. What is the new thing? Everyone's going to the Donkey Kong land.
Trisha Paytas
What is this? Nintendo World I guess just opened in Universal and They. It's bigger there, so they're able to fit. Because we have one in la. I haven't been to it still.
Jimmy Wetzel
There's Nintendo World in la or just Mario.
Trisha Paytas
It's. Yeah, it's Mario. It's Mario. But in. In Universal they're like expanding it because they have more room. So I think there's gonna be. Be Donkey Kong that just opened Zelda and a bunch of other.
Jimmy Wetzel
And you weren't like obsessed with going. You just bought a Nintendo Switch. You said like, weren't you like, this is my thing.
Trisha Paytas
Would love to go. But it was just a time thing really. We. I was like, I have to get.
Jimmy Wetzel
Back for the podcast and you can edit like there. Like if you want to stay a week, it's not worth it.
Trisha Paytas
I don't have a computer that I could do that with. I might. I'm. I thought about getting one just so I could potentially do that at least with like. Like if there's like guest episodes I can like plan okay. Like, I can. This is not. Has to go up the next day. I can do this over a break. But yeah, I edit on a desktop computer that's like crazy powerful because it just has to do so much processing all the time for editing. So I made sure I got a beefy one. I used that holiday bonus on the new computer. Literally like four days after filming I bought one and.
Jimmy Wetzel
But it is good. I remember. Yeah, we'd always have issues just with all our editors. Just like it would crash. It would. Something would have to restart. They lost the like, because it is probably. I don't know. I know nothing about editing hunts. I've never edited a video like in my life. Like as long as they've been on YouTube, which is like now 19 years. Couldn't tell you how to even I learned I know how to like, what is it called? Like split and delete. Yeah, like, I can do that. But like even that took me a.
Oscar
While to do and long format. So we're talking about three hour video.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
To process multiple cameras. Like that is crazy.
Trisha Paytas
On my old computer it used to take like an hour just to save and export the video file. Now on my new one, it takes like 25 minutes. Which is amazing because like part of. Part of what would give me such like late hours doing the podcast was just like sitting around waiting to be able to put it on Google Drive and like all like that's the most annoying part because it's like, oh my God, I'm done. Like, but I still have to sit at my computer and stuff. But.
Jimmy Wetzel
How's your back?
Trisha Paytas
Not great.
Jimmy Wetzel
Does it. Is it hurt? I wonder, because you're sitting.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I don't. I am really. I've been bookmarking. My TikTok for you page is like labubu and posture exercises. Because I keep, like, bookmarking them and not doing them. But yeah, I get. I. But it's not from editing. It's from, like, life of just being a gamer.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Playing over.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I get like a muscle spasm the size of a golf ball every few months under my skin, which is not great.
Jimmy Wetzel
And then what do you do for it? Just massage it.
Trisha Paytas
My boyfriend one time, I was. It was like a really bad one I was having. And I had to go to the dentist too. So I'm like, sitting there at the dentist, like, waiting six hours for them to be like, yeah, you're gonna pay $5,000 for us to do this little thing? And he surprised me with a theragun, so.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, those are nice.
Trisha Paytas
If it's, like, even starts feeling, it's gonna act up. He uses the theragun. And typically it doesn't that with an icy hot patch and it doesn't flare up.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
I definitely. Especially now that I'm 28, I'm like, okay. I really, like. Yeah, I'm not a high schooler anymore. Like, I gotta really take care of myself. Myself.
Jimmy Wetzel
Can you, like, lay back when you play the games?
Trisha Paytas
No, not really.
Jimmy Wetzel
You can be up like this.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Some people have, like, these glasses that, like. They're like, I'm on my phone. It's like glasses with mirrors. And I'm like, that's a lot. I feel like, yeah, the humiliation of that is too much for me.
Jimmy Wetzel
You're like, let me just sit up.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, exactly.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's a lot. Man. That's sitting. Okay, well, watch your back.
Trisha Paytas
I will. I get up and stretch, you know, every. Every 30 minutes, I stretch. I pet the dogs, use the bathroom. You know, Know, I. I stretch my arms and everything. But, yeah, keeping riveting.
Jimmy Wetzel
No, that's me all the time. I'm always like, anyways talking about it. No, I love it. It is. I mean, because it's. It is so interesting. You said so much for gaming and editing and labuku searching and all that stuff. Like, that stuff.
Trisha Paytas
The labu searching is really. It's shameful. My screen time.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oscar on it. You got everybody on it now, honestly.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And popmart. I'm not looking for a check, but maybe A PR box.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. Yes. Explain your Pop Mar. Because you've. I've seen this on. Was it your Twitter, Instagram. You've been going through it everywhere that.
Trisha Paytas
Will listen to me.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, here you are. You have a platform. We love Pop Mart, by the way.
Trisha Paytas
Love Pop Mart. I am a very new fan, but when I get into something, I can't not go immediately to 100% tenacity. So if that's even a word, fanacity.
Jimmy Wetzel
I never heard of it. Tenacity. I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, we're dubbing it today.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
But yeah, I love your products. I love your character designs. I love going to your stores. You have five in Los Angeles, California, and I have Instagram notifications on for every single store to keep up with Labubu Restocks. And I unfortunately have had some terrible luck and multiple of my LabuBU shipments have been stolen. It's frustrating. And their packages are stamped with the Pop Mart logo.
Jimmy Wetzel
That part.
Trisha Paytas
So everyone knows it's a Lubuuba, the Boo Boo size box with the Pop Mart logo all over it there.
Jimmy Wetzel
No.
Trisha Paytas
Gonna take a shot that it's a.
Jimmy Wetzel
Labubu and they're breaking in Oscar. So they're breaking into people's cars for the Boo Boo.
Trisha Paytas
So, yeah, people will hang them from their mirrors and put them on their dashboard and people smash the cars.
Jimmy Wetzel
And so people see in the box which, like Louis Vuitton anything product, it always comes, like, super discreet. Like, it's just like a brown box. Pop art taking a note out of Adam and Eve. That's true. That part. Because even when we got. We got a PR package, just shout out popmart. But they gave us like, two huge PR Pop Marts. And I was like. And was like, what'd you order from Mom? I'm like, I don't know, but I know it's bougie. Like, let's open those up. Because I know it's like, fancy. But on that same side, people will also see that and be like, yeah, so. So your solution would be to just take the Pop Mart off?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, just. Just use different packaging tape. That's literally.
Jimmy Wetzel
It happened twice to you.
Trisha Paytas
No, it almost happened six times.
Jimmy Wetzel
Six.
Trisha Paytas
Well, I had like four. Four boxes delivered all in the same day. So it's like, been stolen twice, but it was five items. So I had like, this was like a couple weeks ago. They left him on the. Should really be advertising this to people.
Jimmy Wetzel
Whatever you want.
Trisha Paytas
But, you know, they're exposed to the elements, and the elements found them and Stole them. And then hadn't happened for a while. I'd been really diligent and they just didn't say it was delivered until hours after it had been delivered.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, that's weird.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. So it was sitting there and unfortunately it was the Fallen Wild special edition Labubu, which does not drop nearly as often as the other Labu stuff.
Jimmy Wetzel
What's a Fallen Wild one?
Trisha Paytas
It's just a little boo boo with a cute little bucket hat and overalls. And I did manage to secure a new order of one. Hopefully that gets here. Like you keep ordering them. Well, maybe.
Jimmy Wetzel
And I'll send them to you.
Trisha Paytas
Officer was like, send them to my parents house. And I was just like, I don't want to be a burden, but I.
Jimmy Wetzel
Think you might need to at this point. Once. Okay. Pay twice as sad. Three times, like, what are you doing? 5.
Trisha Paytas
Get therapy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh my God, that's crazy.
Trisha Paytas
I got refunds though, for the ones that were stolen and. Oh, well, that's good. It's okay.
Jimmy Wetzel
You're building your pop Mart.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I'm going to franchise. At this point, I probably could.
Jimmy Wetzel
So who, who refunded you?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, TikTok customer service.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I see, I see. Okay, that's good. That's good.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Because that's a part of your building's responsibility. I would think if I didn't get.
Trisha Paytas
A refund, I would have fully been like, okay, like this is kind of your fault for the lobby not being done for eight months.
Jimmy Wetzel
So specifically your building is very like known as supposed to be like secure.
Trisha Paytas
And all that stuff. So I was gonna be like, can you take $40 off my rent this month?
Jimmy Wetzel
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Trisha Paytas
What?
Jimmy Wetzel
And they were just like the police came and everything and they were blaming me for it. I was like, you all are crazy.
Oscar
But still it would be a theft. Exactly. If he leaves the house here and takes one of our cars.
Jimmy Wetzel
They seem not concerned at all. They were just like, I don't know, maybe you know them. I'm like, I don't, but I want my car back.
Trisha Paytas
I did bring my labu today.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. What is this one?
Trisha Paytas
This is just a macaron labubu that I dressed up in some clothes.
Jimmy Wetzel
What's macaron?
Trisha Paytas
It's just the line that they did. It's exciting macaron and they're all. This one's toffee and there's green grape, which still eludes me, but we pulled the secret for that one.
Jimmy Wetzel
What is, what does all that mean? Green grape and pulling a secret.
Trisha Paytas
They're just like different colors that are like named after like a flavor of macaron.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, like the little French cookies.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, yeah. So there's lychee berry, sea salt, coconut. I don't remember all them, but I just call them pink and blue. But they're cute.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love that you're in a. You like pink or blue? That one's cute.
Trisha Paytas
I love.
Oscar
Do you want a macaron?
Jimmy Wetzel
What?
Oscar
No.
Trisha Paytas
What?
Oscar
You don't know?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. Your channeling is labubu and back stretches. I a 45 year old like single woman who is sedentary, which I kind.
Jimmy Wetzel
Of love about you. I get that vibe. If I didn't see you in person when I first saw you personally. Oh my God, he's so like young and cute. But you do give. Yeah. Middle aged woman like me though, like we'd be friends. I'd be like, I love this person.
Trisha Paytas
Also. I did not mean to sound like I'm saying 45 is old. I'm just saying that's, you know, it's old.
Jimmy Wetzel
But hey, it's a curse. I want to be 45. That's the best, you know.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, me too.
Jimmy Wetzel
You don't want to not be 45 because then you just are stuck at this age forever. You pass 27, which is, is good cuz that's the tragic year.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, and my OCD reminded me every day of being 27.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you feel it? Like the tragic.
Trisha Paytas
Not anything tragic. Honestly, 27 was like the best year of my life.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, okay.
Trisha Paytas
Truly.
Jimmy Wetzel
But you didn't think you were going to like die?
Trisha Paytas
Like my whole life leading up to 27, I was just like, 27, I'm going to die. That's so fun.
Jimmy Wetzel
I thought the same thing. I wonder what that is. Cuz it's so old school.
Trisha Paytas
It's like the 27 Club.
Jimmy Wetzel
But it's like Janice Joplet and like, you know, Kurt Cobain and. Not that, you know, but it's like a long. It's like they're older rock stars. So like why do we think we're gonna be that?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, a lot of the, the deaths I guess tend to be from like, you know, substance abuse. Like there's.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right.
Trisha Paytas
Very rarely I feel like it's like a sudden thing but you know, doesn't help my mentally ill brain.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Are you mentally. You don't talk about it if you don't want to, but are you really?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I have anxiety, ocd, struggle with depression for a long time. Haven't been depressed in a long time time thankfully, because things have been good and yeah, pills.
Jimmy Wetzel
But yeah, depression is funny that way. I found a journal the other day. My mom found it cleaning out the garage. We have organizers here, shout out, ae, organized home, they've been doing a garage and they found a journal. And it's just me being like so sad. Just like I said it to Moses. I was just like, oh my God. It was just me every day being. I'm so alone. I hate being alone like this. Like I just journaled every day about being so sad and like lonely. Mine I think maybe was more situational because like I'm kind of like, oh well, when things are good, I don't feel it as much. I don't know if that's like a normal thing for depression, but, you know, but sometimes things are good and you can still be depressed.
Trisha Paytas
So it is, I think, depression. Here I am. Kati Morton, dsm. I was a patron. I was a patron of hers like a million years ago for like a couple months. Because I, you know, I was depressed. I was. I couldn't afford therapy and I was younger and I was just learning about it through YouTube.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And then I. The Jake Paul series, I had to pull out. I was like, oh, this is.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, that was a while ago. The one.
Trisha Paytas
It was a long time ago, thankfully, my depression era.
Jimmy Wetzel
So you haven't watched her? Like, the new stuff with Shane, you didn't know?
Trisha Paytas
I mean, I got clips for the podcast when he talked about his friend. That's totally not you.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right. But not a YouTuber. But also everyone thought she was a hooker, and everyone thought this. And she cried a lot.
Trisha Paytas
And she's blonde, has two kids that they're on the way. Reincarnation of the Pope. But she's not a YouTuber.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's what I was giving. Right.
Trisha Paytas
But, yeah, I. I found her videos really informative. Informative. But that. I just did not care for that series and I had to.
Jimmy Wetzel
What was it? It just the. You thought she was.
Trisha Paytas
I just thought it was weird. The vibes and. I don't know. It's been a long time, so I don't really remember my exact feelings on it, but I just. I unplugged from that fandom, I guess, if you can't even call it that. What were we talking about?
Jimmy Wetzel
We were talking about. Oh, well, you said mentally ill. Are you mentally ill?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, y. Scary. But, yeah, I. Yeah, was depressed for a really long time. Kind of culminated in, like, my late teens, early 20s. Like, I had a really kind of tough childhood, and once I was, like, not in school anymore, and the people that were causing that for me kind of left my life suddenly. Like, I wasn't in fight orf flight mode anymore. And then, like, all the mental illness that I was, like, putting on the back burner came through. I wasn't. I came out when I was, like, 18.
Jimmy Wetzel
Interesting.
Trisha Paytas
So, like, I wasn't constantly spending my time thinking about, like, how do I make sure the conversation does not become anything about being gay? Because I don't want to talk about that. So it freed up a lot of space in my brain for the demons to creep back in.
Jimmy Wetzel
So it almost. Yeah, like, the. The stuff that was causing it, like, it almost. Yeah, you blocked out and then it came, which is kind of good. It's kind of like what we're talking about, the ayahuasca. It kind of like flushes the demons and the trauma to the front.
Trisha Paytas
No, I could never do it. I had, I got like really high like a year ago and it was, I, I have liked, like I, I used to really like it, but I, I, I had way too much too. I had like 80 milligrams, which is crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
That is.
Trisha Paytas
Oh my gosh, it's like eight times what people usually have it. Because I, I just, I wanted to catch up with my friends who had smoked it and I was eating it and I was just like, well, I'll just have more and. What do you mean?
Oscar
Oh, like edible eating is very different, so.
Trisha Paytas
Which like I should know that cuz I've done it before. But I was just like, it's fun. And like, who wouldn't want to be a little high? Oh my God. I greened out. I was in the bathroom. I was like, I get this out of me.
Jimmy Wetzel
Were you throwing up?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Cuz I was like, I can't do another three hours of, of this because it was just kicking in and it was crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, I watched that probably would not be your.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it just like it made my OCD like crazy. Like it was on turbo drive.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's so funny because. Yeah. A lot of people say it actually helps them with like anxiety.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And it used to for me. And then maybe I, you know.
Oscar
Very different because.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Guided. It's very, very different.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
You said to throw up, which. I'm sorry, I do not like throwing up. Even when it feels good. If you have food poisoning and you feel still hate it. It's like.
Trisha Paytas
So I have thrown up much in my adult life, but when I've needed to, I've hated it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, it's.
Oscar
But at that moment you feel, it's, it's more of a, it's called purge because you, at that moment you feel like. Imagine like you have suddenly you're thinking about somebody you don't like and something that was bothering you all of your life. And then you physically feeling like I'm gonna expel that out of my body. Purge it. You feel good? Do you feel like you want to just keep taking it out of you?
Trisha Paytas
I think that was very different. But I. Cause you're not like afraid of it.
Oscar
Because you're not like, it's not like being in food poison throwing up or alcohol poisoning throwing up. It's very different.
Trisha Paytas
Like an emotional response.
Oscar
You just feel like you're purging your body out of something negative.
Jimmy Wetzel
I think you just block that person. I don't think you need to purge them out of your life.
Oscar
This is a spiritual. This is a spiritual blocking.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay, well, do you have something you want to show? You've been clutching your little.
Oscar
No. We were talking about the Laos, and then everyone were tagging us with this guy.
Jimmy Wetzel
We got that after Tax Shop, the Influence. Is it a little Boo Boo or.
Trisha Paytas
No, it's not a Labubu.
Oscar
This is from Disney.
Jimmy Wetzel
They're trying to be a Labubu kind of nachos. We're in our Stitch era now. The Lilo and Stitch, because Elvis birthday. Oh, we have to shout out QT Cinderella for making the.
Oscar
Oh, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah. She spent beautiful cake. Yeah, yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
She spent literally, like, five hours. She, like, streamed it. Five hours.
Trisha Paytas
That's crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Canceled plans. She had something on Saturday, so she dropped it off here. But it was, like, the most beautiful cake. She, like, sourced the toy on. On top from, like, I don't know. It was like a vintage 2000, early 2000s. It was like. They were so. It was so good. She was so nice. Cutie. Cinderella, I love you. You're my new favorite influencer. Because that was, like, so nice. And she, like.
Oscar
She doesn't charge anyone anything. She does it for people. She never charges them.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, it's crazy. I was like, let me, like, pay you at least for the ingredients or something. But she was just, like, so sweet. And then I wanted. Yeah, I wanted her to come to the party, but she. She had something that day, so her sister dropped it off. But Elvis loved it. Malibu loved it. The cake was delicious.
Trisha Paytas
The reveal.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, he's sleeping, holding a donut. Okay. Falling asleep eating a donut.
Trisha Paytas
Cute.
Jimmy Wetzel
You should put ears out.
Oscar
It's like our baby that's coming.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Our. Our theme has been blue. This.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I have blue nails today. Oh, I love.
Jimmy Wetzel
I do. Oh, me too. We're so identical. Oh, my God. That's so crazy. I love blue. It's like a. It's the vibe, especially with nails. I love blue nails.
Trisha Paytas
I think they look so. These are, I think, from the Snow White section at Target.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, what do you mean, Snow White section?
Trisha Paytas
They had, like, months ago when the Snow White movie was coming out, they had, like, a little kiosk, and it was like, snow White colors. I was like, don't care for this movie. But you didn't like it. I didn't See it? I don't. I don't see any.
Jimmy Wetzel
Take it. Care if you don't like it.
Trisha Paytas
I don't see any of the Disney live action.
Jimmy Wetzel
You don't like princesses?
Trisha Paytas
It's not that I don't like princesses. I just. I prefer the animated original. A big animation fan and you haven't.
Jimmy Wetzel
Seen one live action?
Trisha Paytas
Not that I can think of. No. I don't think so.
Jimmy Wetzel
Not even Aladdin? I feel like that was the big one that everyone watched.
Trisha Paytas
No, I didn't see Aladdin, but I love the original.
Oscar
What about Lilo and Stitch?
Trisha Paytas
I. That's a hot topic. Yeah. Yeah, that was one of my. No, I don't. I don't think I'll be seeing the new one either.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, why?
Trisha Paytas
I. I hate to be like a Debbie Downer because. Because it is like, I. I love the original Lilo and Stitch. I watched it, like, a few months ago for, like, the first time in a long time, and I was like, this is just one of the best movies they've ever made. Like, it just has so many important themes.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
And the live action, it just feels like the people who made it didn't understand the plot. Although the director did say that he tried to get pleakly in drag. So part of me thinks it's like the studio executives that muddled it all up and ruined what could have been like a perfectly just tame recreation.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But. Yeah, spoiler warning, I guess.
Jimmy Wetzel
Spoiler alert.
Trisha Paytas
Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. I put a timestamp also. I know people are like, I don't know where to skip. Baby, look at the screen. It's right here. This is where it's gonna be.
Jimmy Wetzel
I saw someone on TikTok said, thank you, Jimmy, for all the spoilers for White Lotus, because they were just finished watching it. They're like, now I can go rewatch.
Trisha Paytas
All this and I have not seen White Lotus, and I'll have to wait a year for me to forget all the spoilers.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, that's right.
Trisha Paytas
You didn't lose it at this point, I had all. I knew everything in Traitors before I watched it. Oh, no, there was a Oscar spoiled the end of the new Hunger Games book that I was gonna read. So, like, the bullets I take for you guys.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love a spoiler.
Trisha Paytas
I don't love a spoiler spoiler. If it's something that, like, if it's a twist, like, if it's like. If it's like, a mystery. And the whole point is to, like, not know what's gonna happen and, like, figure it out. I hate knowing, really.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I need to know, otherwise.
Trisha Paytas
But, like, sometimes, like, if there's a movie that I'm, like, on the fence about, I'll, like, I will look up, like, a plot synopsis and I'll be like, okay, that actually sounds interesting. I'd like to see that play out. I'd like to see how that looks when it's.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's what I think, too. Like, you want to know what it's gonna be about? Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But, yeah. Spoilers for the new Lilo. Instead, among a couple of the. The lists of things that people did not love that they changed at the end of the movie, Nani gives up. Lilo.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like what?
Trisha Paytas
Which is, like, the antithesis of the entire ethos of the movie, which is ohana means family. Nobody gets left behind. Like, it. It's so. And, like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna get super into the, like, the optics of that in this climate because it's just. It's a little depressing to think about. And there are people on TikTok that say it a lot more eloquently than I can.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
But it's like indigenous native Hawaiians giving up their children to the government. It's crazy. Is a crazy thing to put in a movie. I, in general, but, like, in this.
Jimmy Wetzel
Can't fathom because everyone was saying they cried at the end of the movie. So I was just like, oh, my gosh. Like, what?
Trisha Paytas
They cry because they're pissed?
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Is, like, giving up.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
She goes to the government. Is it supposed to be a happy ending?
Trisha Paytas
I believe that David, the, like, not really love interest, because, like, Nani doesn't. In the original, Nani, like, is so saddled with responsibility, with zero support system, that she doesn't have time for a personal life. Like, she is picking up the pieces of a broken family from a tragic loss of their parents. And the whole point is, like, they find family in Stitch and Jumba and Pleakly. They make Jumba the villain. They get rid of Gantu, the big killer whale shark, whatever he is. He's just, like, not even in the movie.
Jimmy Wetzel
They made Jamba the villain in the live action.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I think at the end of the movie, he gets arrested, which is so strange. And then Nani goes off to college on the mainland. So, like, she's leaving her home, too. And it's like, if it feels like they were trying, in a way to, like, almost, like, progressive eyes it in, like, a weird way, they're like, well, Nani wants to be a marine biologist and she wants to go to college.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's like, well, she could do that in her home. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, why didn't she go to a school in Hawaii? And like also I've seen reviews from people saying like she's a marine biologist, but she's not remotely intrigued by Stitch being a brand new species. Like she just like, it's just, it's like it, it's literally like they. None of the plot points even connect even. Also like, I don't even know if it would be the, the best version to show because like the live action, the. The CGI of like Jumba and Bleakley, they're creepy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I haven't seen. I thought they were real people playing them, so.
Trisha Paytas
Because I guess they. I think it was originally a Disney plus show. So the budget was smaller. But like Moana 2, it got bumped up to a feature but with the same budget. So a lot of the movie like Pleakly and Jumbo Jumba are completely human disguises. It's just human actors. So that way they don't have to like animate.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I see.
Trisha Paytas
And like the, it just, it's just a movie like that just, I feel like just does not work outside of being a cartoon because like Pley is a one eyed alien with two tongues in a bob.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And people think he's a human woman. Like it literally like that. No one. You can't tell me that that's like the characters in that movie are going to believe that in live action because it just there. The suspension of disbelief is just not there as much when it's a cartoon with cartoon physics and characters stretching and just so like that part made me sad that like just the live action kind of sanitizing of it all, the, the taking out any sort of queer elements of pleakly, that really bothered me. But then the fact that like it just doesn't feel like they understood the plot and the, the message of the movie.
Jimmy Wetzel
And you explained it so good because you went into even more detail than I like thought with like the original. Like I really. I hadn't watched either in so long. So I like didn't know. But that is like the core of it. And taking that away is so wild. We thought there's no way this movie could flop. It's like, oh my God, this cute little girl. Oh, so it didn't flop.
Trisha Paytas
So it didn't make the most money of any Memorial Day release ever.
Oscar
I think second after Lion King, it's a second. So it, it brought in, in the weekend, $341 million.
Jimmy Wetzel
Lion King, live action was number one.
Trisha Paytas
That's crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's crazy.
Oscar
That one's from 2019.
Jimmy Wetzel
Huh?
Oscar
Lion King from 2019.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. That's a live action.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they did a remake, which. Oh my God, that one bothered me.
Jimmy Wetzel
That was like National Geographic. I was just like, this is weird.
Trisha Paytas
No expressiveness on the animals. And they use like the same, like, they would recreate the shots from the original, but, like, then the animators and the storyboard artists wouldn't get credit for like, basically making the whole movie that they would just copy and paste and like, I guess Disney probably has something in their contract where they don't have to, but it's just like, like, that's so scummy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, oh, I didn't know that. Oh my God, you're so, like in, in, like, knowledgeable about all this stuff.
Trisha Paytas
I, I. Animation is like one of my favorite things. I'd love to be a voice actor. Disney, hire me for a.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, really? Can you do different voices? Can you stitch?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God, Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do it.
Trisha Paytas
It's not good. Wait, that was, I don't know, crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you hear it?
Oscar
Well, you can put stitch on your face.
Trisha Paytas
No, put stitch on my face cuz I can't watch myself do it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do stitch on your face and do it one more time, but a little longer. Give us five seconds. Seconds.
Trisha Paytas
Hannah means family. That was so good.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my gosh.
Trisha Paytas
It was perfectly, like five out of ten. Stitch. Like, that's pretty good. That's. Thank you, Moses.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do your stitch.
Oscar
I cannot do that. I. I try to do Donald Duck for Malibu.
Trisha Paytas
That was good. It's really hard.
Jimmy Wetzel
Just say the Lionel Hanami family. S. Stitch.
Oscar
I don't know. Did do that, babe.
Jimmy Wetzel
The alien to say it.
Oscar
It will sound like Donald D. Okay, do it. Go means family. Okay, that was good. That was not good. I can't even.
Jimmy Wetzel
Who was here? Oh, well, we can't say our guest. I was here, but our guest did Stitch. Remember our one on Friday? He did Stitch. Everyone was doing Stitch. I was like, okay, we're having a Stitch impression.
Trisha Paytas
I feel like it's one of the easier ones that people can do.
Jimmy Wetzel
You did good. Yeah, that was good.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, like, that was good. You got the gurgle. You got the like half your mouth is, is filled with spit. You got it.
Jimmy Wetzel
I can't do impressions at all. Oh, my God. Is it the same voice actor? Do you know?
Trisha Paytas
I think so, yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wow. Good. For him just getting the girl a.
Trisha Paytas
Lot to come back to this movie, which I would hope.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, there's literally 500 stitch things. We went to Disney plus this weekend and there's like stitch movie, Stitch Hawaii, Stitch tv.
Trisha Paytas
There's so many stitches where stitches in Japan and there's a show where stitch is in China. There's cuz stitch is really big in. In just Asian countries in general. Really popular. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Is there a stitch like land in Disney over there? Like, because there's one in Hong Kong.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. I know that Winnie the Pooh is also really popular in Tokyo Disney because they just, I guess they just really love like teddy bears. Like they have a mascot there that is like used more in the parks than Mickey and he's just like a teddy bear. That's like four Tokyo Disney.
Jimmy Wetzel
Have you been?
Trisha Paytas
No, I've never been, but I would love to go to Japan. That's like number one destination.
Jimmy Wetzel
We have to get a piece of like a live. You know when like Regis and Kelly would go to like Florida and just sit there outside at Disney World. We need to get that for Tokyo Disney where we just go.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
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Trisha Paytas
I'll bring a nice laptop.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. That would be so much fun. We gotta figure out how to do it. We'll put it out there. Popmart send us to Japan, but we'll go with. Is Labu's Japanese.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. China, I believe.
Jimmy Wetzel
I'll go there, too. Hong Kong, I think, specifically, has Disneyland.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
But it's a little different. Hong Kong, I think, is a little different than China. Someone was explaining it to me.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they are. Yeah.
Oscar
They're independent.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Oh, yeah. Stitch is really, really popular with kids. And then a lot of people are also worried that now kids that are, like, they're gonna learn about the story from this movie. That's my biggest thing from the actual region. So they'll see this first before.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, no. That is kind of sad, actually. Especially the giving up. Like, I feel like now I have to. I kind of want to just see the ending because it's, like, that's crazy how they would even frame it, because they probably frame it as, like, a happy ending.
Trisha Paytas
They do. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
So how. But how. I can't even, like, fathom that. Like, Lilo's just, like, okay, does she get to bring Stitch with her wherever, like, with the government?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know that part. I don't know.
Oscar
Like, foster care is probably the worst thing you can do.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. It's literally, like, they're framing it as, like, this good thing. And I. I think, like, she does stay with David and his grandmother, I think, okay. But it's like, it's not.
Jimmy Wetzel
The government's, like, in control of you.
Trisha Paytas
It's like, it's not a good system, and it's being framed as this. This, like, great thing. Also, like, Lilo and Stitch, the original has a lot of commentary about, like, tourism in Hawaii. Lilo. There's, like, a cut scene where Lilo's walking down the street with Stitch and a car full of white people just go, hey, which way to the beach? Like. Like, they're just showing how, like, she's been made to feel like an outsider in her own home. The girl who bullies her at the. Her name is Myrtle. A little white girl.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, with the glasses.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, it, it's, she takes pictures of tourists. Be like the white tourists. Cuz she's like, what is going on here? Like, it, it, it's like has like a critical lens of like interesting how Hawaiian people don't really love the tourism industry, but they kind of have to put up with it because it, it supports their economy. I, I'm sorry if I'm not, not like. No, it makes sense saying it correctly, but.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, no, you're right. I mean, I hear that even all the time, like going to Maui and stuff like that. It's like there is that conflicting. No, they love it because it brings money. But do they like love it? You know what I mean? Especially if you're. Yeah, there's a whole. I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't. Again, I haven't watched in so long. But that's so interesting, especially in the cartoon back then. Because if it's giving awareness to that. Yeah, it's good to know. But then like here it's just. Yeah. That makes me so sad. Sad because Lilo and Stitches, like so we do love it now. We got into it because of, because we want to think of the Elvis.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Elvis though that's so is. I wonder if he loves Elvis. In the new movie.
Trisha Paytas
I think they, I, I, I haven't, Again, I haven't seen the movie. So I mostly was seeing like breakdowns from people on like tick tock and YouTube and stuff. But I think even like the whole scene where they're like learning to be like Elvis is gone.
Jimmy Wetzel
Really?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Probably because of like, right. Like copyright or something. I don't know.
Jimmy Wetzel
Which is weird because they got it for the time.
Trisha Paytas
First.
Jimmy Wetzel
First.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
But. All right, well, this is sad. Sad. Say for a stitch, I was the purple one. Is the little purple girl in it?
Trisha Paytas
No.
Jimmy Wetzel
She's like a sequel or something.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, probably. Although I don't know how they can do a sequel because like Jumbo's not gonna be in it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, oh, Nani's gone, she's abandoned. Said bye.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Because I also loved the Lilo and Stitch, the TV series on Disney Channel. That was like how I really got into Lilo and Stitch.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh.
Trisha Paytas
Like saw the movie once. But like every, every freaking day on Disney Channel they would play an episode because like stitches experiment 626, there's one to 625 all that. So like they have every episode is like they, an alien comes to Earth and then they have to find like a job. Like there's an alien that has long nails and it's ripping stuff up. And then there's a whole. Like, the plot of the story is, like, they teach it to cut hair and, like, it integrates with the society and, like, they give it a job and.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, wait, you're like, a expertly low instinct. I didn't know this because you're like, no, I didn't see it. I was like, okay, so I didn't think, like, you were into it, but, you know, you're so into it, you don't want to see it. That's why.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I think it's the first one of the live actions that, like. And again, like, I'm not, like, Die Hard. Like, I. It's like, it's one of my favorite.
Jimmy Wetzel
Disney movies for sure, but pretty knowledgeable of everything.
Trisha Paytas
I think it's just because, like, nostalgia. I just, like, grew up with it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, my generation. It's definitely, like, one of the first Disney movies. Like, a lot of people my age saw and, like, really connected with and stuff. And so it's the first one that I'm like, damn. The changes are really, like, kind of tone deaf, really.
Jimmy Wetzel
So weird. And it's like, you think Disney would learn? They get so much backlash from so many things. It's like, what did they not, like, with the Snow White, with not having the, you know, no dwarfs being dwarf. It's like. It's so odd. Like, what are they doing over there?
Trisha Paytas
They just kind of don't care because, I mean, Lilo Stitch is made so much money. Like, it, like, again, it, like, was breaking records.
Oscar
Well, they're going to. They're going to make 1.1 billion from the movie, but they're going to make 2.4 billion from the merch.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Yeah.
Oscar
From all the stuff they're selling around.
Trisha Paytas
So I kind of feel like they just don't really care. And I looked it up last night. I wrote it down. I believe, like, the critic score was, like, 69. And, like, the audience score was in the 90s. 90s. So, like, the average person seeing the movie probably just, like, you know, nuclear family that just, like, doesn't really just want something fun. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Little girl Stitch.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's kind of just like a babysitting tool for them.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
You know, like, they're probably gonna take away from it that, like, nothing's weird. But I don't know. I kind of see. I. I really see animation as, like, art and. And, like, yes, it's media. Like, target demographic is children, but if it's good, people of all ages can really appreciate it.
Jimmy Wetzel
But important messages for kids too.
Trisha Paytas
Exactly, Exactly.
Jimmy Wetzel
I didn't know about. What's his name? Plea. Bleak. What is the one? I had no idea. So he.
Trisha Paytas
The pronouns he, him, but like, Pleakly is an Annie all queen. I feel like, like, whatever.
Jimmy Wetzel
Loves Little Drag.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I didn't know that. Like, again, I haven't seen this in a while, but I, like, did not know that. I was like, oh, my gosh.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, Jumba and Bleakley go to Earth and they disguise each other. Each other as humans or they disguise themselves and like, Jumbo's just wearing like a Hawaiian T shirt and like a sun hat. And Pleakly is like a bob and like a flower print dress and calls himself Aunt Pleakly.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I love. Okay.
Trisha Paytas
And like in the animated series too. Like, ple's got a different look every episode. Like, she's turning the party.
Jimmy Wetzel
Always a new wig.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. I love very, very, very Trishy in that way.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do I look like Pley with my mom? He was ahead of his time with a bob. I love that.
Trisha Paytas
So, like. And, you know, we've seen, like, the just flagrant assault on queer expression and drag and trans issues, especially in the last couple months, but, like, you know, for the last few years. And it just feels like Disney's kind of, like, heating to that. Yeah. Because they're like, well, conservatives are gonna not care, I guess, if we're not woke. And no matter how woke we try to be, even though they're. I don't know how hard they're actually trying.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
People have issues with it. So let's. Who cares?
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, my God. And we're all, like, pandering to that side now. It's like, so. It's so scary.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
With all the Kate McCray going with Morgan Wallen.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
Carrie Underwood on American Idol. I'm like, oh, my God, what is happening?
Trisha Paytas
When Stefani is also like, like, weirdly religious now everyone's just like, okay, is.
Jimmy Wetzel
She doing Christian music? What is she doing?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. I. I don't really know exactly what she's doing, but I. I know. Isn't she married to Blake Shelton?
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, enough sad. Yeah. And.
Trisha Paytas
And like, I forgot she posted something on Tick Tock recently that was very, like, about God and. And, you know, not trying to cast everyone who believes in a higher power in the same boat. But, like, as a queer gay person, I. Yeah, I can kind of like, it's almost like a Little triggering to, like, hear that kind of dialogue. I'm like, okay. I kind of gonna just. Distance.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I'm not. I'm not a. I don't really know much about Tate McRae. I don't even know if I've heard a single song.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wow.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And I was, like, thinking about it.
Jimmy Wetzel
I thought, people love me too. I was trying to get my Tate McCray era, and then. And I. I think I tweeted it, and everyone's like, no. And I was like, oh, my God, okay, what now? You know what I mean? I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know.
Jimmy Wetzel
What? I never know who to go with. I've always picked the wrong person. I'm always like, this is the person. Like, no, no. Well, you know, I was like, oh, gotta get a cybertruck. Like last year, you know, I didn't know about all this stuff. And I was like, okay, now. Now when I see those, like. You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Could have gotten the. The no Elon little sticker.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do they put that on there?
Trisha Paytas
Anyone who's still in their lease for a Tesla has a sticker that's like, I don't support Elon. I'm just riding out this lease. We saw one yesterday while we were getting coffee.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. Oh, that's okay. That's good. Let people know so you don't get.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Cyber attacked. Oh, no. We have Lilo and Stitch. What was our other one? Where's another one? Oh, you did the Pop Mart. What are the Hot Topics we got going on?
Trisha Paytas
I know you guys like to save big ones for the end.
Jimmy Wetzel
What's your big ones for today? What do we think? I never forgot. Where's my phone?
Trisha Paytas
Shout out to Bill Sesh. Oh, yeah, pre game. This podcast, I watched, like, eight of your videos, so shout out to Bullsesh. I might even use your clips for B roll. We're oomphies. Me and spill. When I edited her episode, she followed me back and.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, really?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And she was at Errors of Trish. I was like, oh, my God, I would have loved to see you.
Jimmy Wetzel
She was on Eras of Church, which is crazy. She did not ask me for tickets, did not ask for, like, to come backstage. I'm like, girl, I would have, like, hooked you up, but come back. Like, I love her so much. And then when I saw her in the crowd, I was like, that's wild. I was like, you are VIP always. She's a rotating co host.
Trisha Paytas
She's very cool.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, man, I love her. And I get you know what's so funny, though, is a lot of times the stuff she talks about is like. Like the Justin Bieber. It sometimes doesn't do as well. Although we did use Justin Bieber a lot. But we can use Justin Bieber again. He's a hot topic.
Trisha Paytas
I'm gonna do. I. Oscar usually does title and thumbnail, but when he's off, I. I'm like, I'll do it so you don't have to take time out of your time off.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And I never know what to do.
Jimmy Wetzel
I know, but Justin Bieber is a good one. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
He is one of my hot topics.
Jimmy Wetzel
Today for the SZA concert.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. I guess we could just do that one because it's, like, kind of minor.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
So, yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
And Kendrick Lamar, they were performing at. Was it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I think they're touring together. I. I didn't know Kendrick was a part of this performance. I. I only saw sza.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, I think. I think so. I think our neighbor went also shout out seatgeek for sponsoring today's episode. They always say Kendrick, Lavar and sza. So I think they're together on this tour. You didn't. You weren't there. You weren't at. So on Friday night. Was it Friday night in Los Angeles, this happened. Justin Bieber came out.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it was a few days ago.
Jimmy Wetzel
This is the first time Justin Bieber's been out in how long on stage?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I don't know.
Jimmy Wetzel
Are you not a Belieber?
Trisha Paytas
I did not really listen to anything Justin Bieber growing up because closeted little gay boy. He was pretty. And I was kind of like, I can't scared the butterflies I get in my stomach when I see him. I'm like, this is uncomfortable for me. Same with One Direction. I remember my sister was into them and she had a poster of all them. And I saw, like, Zayn and Harry and all them, and I was just like, oh, they're cute. Like, I can't. I can't wait.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's interesting. What was the I can't part of it? Because you weren't out or you didn't know yourself? You're like.
Trisha Paytas
I think it was a little both. I was, like, afraid of those feelings that it was like, conjuring. And then I was also like, I don't want to get called gay because, like, I would get called gay for breathing. Because I breathe gay.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wow. And you're going to, like, in middle school and like, what, the 2000s?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Yeah. And like, that was the height of Hillary Duff. Don't say gay. That's insane.
Jimmy Wetzel
I thought we were so diva.
Trisha Paytas
They said gay. Really? Oh, that just was so funny. It's weird. I. I wasn't really picked on very much, like, at. From anyone in my actual class because I went to Catholic school in the Bronx, and it was the same group of 30 of us from pre K3, age 3, all the way to 8th grade. So. So, like, literally 11 years of the same kids.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
So, like, they're not really gonna pick on you. Cause, like, you see each other every day. You've been friends for a long time, so you're like, at most acquaintances with like, a person that sits on the other side of the room from you. Like. Okay, so. But people in my neighborhood who, like, I saw on the weekends for, like, basketball or baseball, not the kindest. So I did get, I did get picked on by, like, people in the neighborhood and stuff for, like, being gay and stuff.
Jimmy Wetzel
Was it. That's so interesting because you weren't like, crushing on guys. So what was it? They just, they thought maybe the way you looked or dressed, the.
Trisha Paytas
The accent.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, no, that's so sad.
Trisha Paytas
I definitely, like, I. I remember I got. I got made fun of for, like, the way I laugh, which now I feel like is like a hiring requirement. Like, you can't work on just Trish if you don't tackle.
Jimmy Wetzel
I do love your energy because it's giving people. Don't laugh. I'm like, is it good? Are we not going? You know, there were two girls sitting.
Trisha Paytas
In front of me at ers of Trish and they were like, we hope you enjoy the show. And my boyfriend was like, he's gonna be cackling. Get ready. And at the end of the show, they were like, we love your laugh.
Jimmy Wetzel
No, it's laughing like that. The genuineness and the uniqueness of it is just like, so contagious. I'm also very self conscious about my, like, laugh in general. That's why I never usually, like, laugh out loud. I do more so now, but I used to never laugh out loud because people would always call me, like, loud and stuff like that because I. I used to laugh so loud as a kid. And like, you're so loud. Like, stop. And I'm so, like, I'm always like, self conscious, but now I love it. I love a good laugh, but I'm still a little self conscious to laugh because also I don't know what my laugh is. I steal people's laughs. Like, I do feel like I laugh like Oscar sometimes.
Trisha Paytas
Now.
Jimmy Wetzel
I used to laugh like Holly Madison. Like I used to like steal people's like laughs because I like was so self conscious about mine. So I probably start laughing like you a little giggle after this. Yeah, I love it. But Justin Bieber, your sister liked and you were like, I can't like this.
Trisha Paytas
I don't think my sister really like was a fan. Yeah, she was more one direction. But like most people like, like Justin Bieber. And I like, you know, I baby was very popular. I probably watched more Justin Bieber parodies on YouTube back in the day. Bar Baker, Not Bart Baker, but there was one. The Key of Awesome. Do you remember them?
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. Are they still around?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. But they had one with Justin Bieber. They did a few with Justin Bieber.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like the real Justin Bieber.
Trisha Paytas
No, no, no. Like I think it was just a woman in a wig.
Jimmy Wetzel
But that was the impersonation. Poor Justin too. Always having like people called it a lesbian with a haircut. Like, I feel so mean.
Trisha Paytas
Not great about how society has treated him. It kind of is like how Britney was treated.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
In the 2000s.
Jimmy Wetzel
No. It's so sad to watch. And then like you see the outcome of it and they still to this day like, I feel, I feel for him, I feel for Haley. I'm. God, that's like so awful. So sad. But him and Sza did a song. They had a song together.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I don't know the name of the song. I should have wrote it down.
Jimmy Wetzel
And he came and performed it with her, which is like a big deal.
Oscar
Snooze is the song.
Trisha Paytas
They snooze. That's right.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay, facts over there.
Trisha Paytas
My alarm this morning, I. I did not want to wake up late. Cuz I know you're very like about punctuality and I've never been late before, so I don't know why.
Jimmy Wetzel
I feel like we're going to start on time today. And honestly I don't mind a little lateness, you know, whatever, like anymore. Cuz I'm at home so I'm like, I could have a little snack. But I was like, I feel like we're going to start on time today. Which we love. Which we love. You picked the earlier time. I said, do you want 10am or you want noon? And you said, I'll do 10. 10am I was like, perfect, we'll do that. But because at my house it's actually so easy to just be like when people are late. I was like, all right, I'll just eat a snack. Or something.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I set, like, five alarms this morning.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
8:05, 8, 10, 8, 15. Like, I'm just like, oh. Because I know I'm gonna snooze the first three.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do you really? I'm someone who, like, gets up before my. I'm so scared, like, I'm not gonna wake up. I get up before the alarm even goes.
Trisha Paytas
I turn them off in my sleep. It's so bad. I, like, start leaving my phone on the floor. So I have to, like, really reach.
Jimmy Wetzel
To turn it off physically. Get up. Yeah. So they performed Snoop News at Sophie. Everyone kind of made a big deal of this because I guess it was the way since it was, like, holding his face. I watched it and I was kind.
Oscar
Of like, well, no, not the way she was holding her face. The way he was acting.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, what did he. He's just, like, kissing her hand. Gave a little kiss to the hand.
Oscar
The way I saw it, he was just high out of his mind.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I've seen a lot of people. Like, he was high. It kind of seems like Sza could tell that he was high and, like, kind of making sure he. He, like, was steady.
Oscar
So he was. So he came out.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's. Oscar is here. Allegedly. Yes.
Oscar
He came out on stage. He sang his part, the first part. But then, you know, you could see that he was really into it and in his own mind. And his eyes were closed. He wasn't even holding the microphone anymore. At this point, he was just single and his eyes were closed. And then she saw that she needs to kind of bring him back to the world. So that's why she touched his face. He kind of opened his eyes for a second and then closed them again. Kissed her hand, all that, that's fine. But the way they exit the stage, the stage was actually going down.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I didn't see that part.
Oscar
So they had the mark that they had to get to by a certain amount of time. And she was just doing the best she could to get him there because he was just, like, in his own mind. He was eyes closed, feeling the music. I mean, he was having a great time. He was.
Jimmy Wetzel
So what if he was just high on the music?
Trisha Paytas
You during freaky.
Oscar
Either way, you gotta find your mark. You gotta find your mind. The stage is moving. Like, you're in the wrong place. You're gonna fall, you're gonna whatever. And this is her. This is her show.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
You're a guest on her show. You gotta be at your best. You get to not embarrass her. You gotta. You're there to help her. Not to hype her, not to.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't think any. I did not even consider that part.
Oscar
No, she.
Trisha Paytas
I thought the big thing was about the kiss.
Jimmy Wetzel
I thought so too.
Trisha Paytas
I thought if is comfortable with it, then I don't see a problem. But if it was not something. Because I thought it was like, oh, you know, it's there. It's a duet. Like I thought it was like on the mouth. No, on the hand. So I thought like maybe it was planned. That's what I. I got. But I guess clearly not.
Oscar
None of this was planned.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wow.
Oscar
None of this. I mean, this is. You could see that she was struggling to just make sure that he's okay and gets to his point. Point. At this point, you're not even singing at your best, you know, Cuz you're just making sure everything's fine.
Jimmy Wetzel
How was he singing if he didn't have his microphone in his hand? How did you hear the singing?
Oscar
Well, there was a back crack.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Oscar
So when he first came out, he was holding the mic. Then he just forgot even had a mic in his hand. So people were just upset that she had to deal a with all that. Part of making sure he's fine, getting to his mark, not getting injured. Some people were upset about him. Like he didn't just give her one kiss, he was like repeatedly kissing her hand and she. She kind of, you know, diverted him. And some people don't like that, you know, that a woman has to deal with that on stage.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Oscar
And then also she got closer. You know, he hugged her and like she was doing her best just to keep him up awake.
Jimmy Wetzel
You don't think that was like planned, the affection on stage?
Oscar
No. Which is fine. Like maybe they had something planned. But none of that happened. Whatever happened was just at the moment and her trying her best to save the moment.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I only saw one pov, so it made it look like it was. Cuz it was. For me, it seemed like the. The issue that people were having was like, oh, there was this connection on stage and Haley's in the audience.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I thought it was too. That's what I thought. So I was like, oh, they like planned this thing and was it inappropriate to do? But there's video that I will insert of Haley like filming it. And if she is pl. She's doing a good job hiding it because she looks fine.
Oscar
She's filming and she's hyping them up and she. And she Also posted it. She said, my two favorite musicians.
Jimmy Wetzel
He doesn't look to me that messed up. I only. Because last week, again, I need to bring this up again, whatever about me. But in Sacramento, I was. I was constipated. I had taken Miralux for a week, and I. I couldn't go to the bathroom for a week. And I feel like I was performing in that same capacity where I was, like, sweating and then I threw up when I went off stage. So I was like, maybe I just thought constipation or something. I didn't think it was, like, drugs. I mean, that's why I told my audience. I had to tell them, like, you guys, I haven't. You know, I'm constipated. And Because I didn't want them to.
Trisha Paytas
Think that vulnerability the judges are looking for.
Oscar
I mean, I didn't want them because of this.
Jimmy Wetzel
Now people will speculate.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, why?
Jimmy Wetzel
I don't want people to speculate because I was, like, sweating. I was, like, kind of hallucinating because I hadn't gone to the bathroom in, like, a week, and I just had taken so much Miralax. And so I was like, I just have to let them know that if it's a high look, it's, like, high. So to me, it doesn't look that bad. Okay. All the stuff you're saying, if she's, like, not uncomfortable with the kiss, like, of course that's a different thing. The going down off the stage, they were fine. Then he was fine to get off the stage.
Oscar
She pulled him. She dragged him to the spot, to the mark. She kept pointing, like she was literally telling him, you need to be at this point, Mark.
Trisha Paytas
Wow. Yeah. That's really. That is really lame that she had to kind of coddle him.
Oscar
Most likely it was an accident.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Like, in the music, like, people, they're backstage partying. It's normal. It's very normal. People are usually. A lot of people performing are high, usually on stuff that's much more. You know, that's what I'm saying. He had a great time. Like, this is. You're, like, up there, you're hearing the crowd, the music, the light. He was having a ball, but I think he probably just by accident went a bit too far.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
And then.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, I feel more bad for. Yeah, I feel. Well, like you said, bad for both. But if he has a. If there is a problem. But maybe he just had. Like you said, maybe he just had a good time too much.
Oscar
That's what I think. I think he Just had a great time.
Jimmy Wetzel
Because he always seems like when I see him and stuff, like the paparazzi videos, I mean, he seems like it's.
Oscar
Not professional, it's not fair to her. Yeah, but that's. That happens. I mean, it happens.
Jimmy Wetzel
He also hasn't been on stage in a long time, so maybe he had like anxiety or something like that because he has like, he hasn't performed. I, I'm, I'm a relatively new believer. But I don't think he's performed since the Purpose tour, which was like literally before COVID and stuff. So I think it's been a while. I think like, even when he's been on the Jumbotron at games, I think he's just like uncomfortable sometimes with attention. And then you. I would be the same way. Oh my God. If I had to perform a big thing. Oh my God. I'd probably be like, I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
If it comes here.
Jimmy Wetzel
You're like, what can I. Yeah, what's in the Stanley? Like, you know what I mean? Like, you just. I would have to take something. Cause yeah, it is probably like a lie. And then Haley of course gets some. I thought it was about the Haley not liking it.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I thought.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't even realize that it could have been not planned.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Because like I again, I only saw the one video so I fully thought it was like, oh, they had this little moment and like, was it rude to do it in front of Haley? And now it's like, oh, it's like, it's like a three sided issue now.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, that it's like, well, which it is sucks to be healing. It sucks. It would just suck to like always hear that your husband's not into you because there's like so many edits now of like he hates her, all this stuff like that. Like him walking in front of her and it's like, well, you know, he is like super famous for the fact that he has to like run in and dodge things. And it's like, it just sucks. Like when we first started into people, like, oh, he's like not into it. Like people always say about anyone I dated. Oh, you can tell he hates her. Like, it's just like the worst thing to hear. And then you're like married with this person, have a baby and you still have to hear it all the time. And you could do so many posts and people will still analyze all the posts. Like they're not into each other, they're not this. And like you said, she was filming him and people still were like, disrespectful to her. I'm like, she looked fine.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Because she knows he's like a performance.
Trisha Paytas
Like it. I. I think it's impressive on her end to be so secure with that. Oh, it's like. Because she probably knows that that's not real. Like, that's a performance. It's for the song, you know, like, people do. Do romantic duets that are not like, in a relationship all the time. Like, that's just part of the industry. So I think she's aware of that. She's not as like, you know, she's. She's a grown woman.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Oscar
Also, who do you think had to take care of him after that?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
You know what I mean? The guy is like out of his mind. Somebody has to take him home and make sure he's fine and safe and all that. And she's the one doing all that.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. I mean, yeah, like all that stuff. Yeah. It's a lot. I love Justin Bieber. I have hope. I think you'll have, like, a good comeback. You know what I mean? I think. But yeah, struggling with anything's hard.
Oscar
He's working on new music. I mean.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, he is. I didn't know that.
Jimmy Wetzel
How do you know that?
Oscar
He's locked in.
Jimmy Wetzel
He's not Justin Bieber. Tick tock. He's like. They've been saying him and Hillary Duff cooking in the studio.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Jimmy Wetzel
Her husband shared that. I was so excited.
Trisha Paytas
Have you ever seen that? I think it's the Today show where she's doing the. With love and she gives literally nothing. It's so nothing. That is everything.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's me on the arrows towards.
Trisha Paytas
Please do it. Please, please, please.
Jimmy Wetzel
I should, I should try to put that little in the mix at Pride. Start doing a little dance break.
Trisha Paytas
People will get it. People will know and they'll all do the side by side. Oh, my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
That would be so good. I wonder if we could switch it out. There has to be some music in there. Maybe during the bubbly dance break I can try and incorporate it or something. That'd be so good. No, Hilary Duff was an icon. I'm surprised you. I told you because she's a little bit like a different generation.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I. I knew of her. I didn't really watch much lazy McGuire. But like. Yeah, definitely not because it was like born in 97 had any sentience post like 2000. So like, I don't really remember like Lizzie McGuire. Even Stevens.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
That was way I remember, like, sweet life Of Zack and Cody, a little bit of that. So Raven, because it was still going on when I was younger. Hannah Montana, though, was like, that's the.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's the generation.
Trisha Paytas
My Lizzie McGuire.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's how I feel. So some people love Miley. I feel like. Like, Tana, all these people. But, like, you all are the same age. It's like a whole decade behind me. And it is crazy how a decade is. That's why with age gap relationships, I'm always such a big. Like, it's so weird to me because there is that decade that's like you. It's just such a difference. You know what I mean? Like, Miley, to me, I like her, but there's no impact that she had in my life. I was like, I don't know, like, kind of Justin Bieber. I think we'll see the train because, like, Justin Bieber came and I was like, I don't know. It's this little kid. Like, what am I going to, like, watch? But Miley Cyrus is reunited, though. She's back with her dad now she's back on Team Billy Ray. So who's he? He's dating Elizabeth Hurley. Do you know her?
Trisha Paytas
No.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my gosh. Yes. Billy Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley. She's from the original Austin Powers. She dated Hugh Jackman. Like, she's beautiful.
Oscar
Grant.
Jimmy Wetzel
Huh? What?
Oscar
That's you, Grant.
Jimmy Wetzel
Who? He. She did date Hugh Grant. Yeah. When he had that scandal with the prostitute.
Oscar
You said she dated you. Jackman.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, thank you. Hugh Grant. Yes, thank you. I was like, yes, she did date Hugo. Yes. Thank you. Hugh Grant. She's named Billy Rosaire. Is now. I was like. And Billy's Iris. Yeah. But I know it's a whole thing now because I think people are like, wait, Miley was never, like, on her dad's side, but now she's, like, hanging out with him again.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I think there was, like, a drama that, like, her mom unfollowed her, but it was like a glitch.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, do you believe in those Instagram glitches?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. I've never accidentally, like, unfollowed somebody, but I. I have accidentally follow people. I've accidentally reposted things, like on TikTok, because, like, I'll just be like, swiping, but my thumb will hit the, like, three people. You follow reposted. If you just tap it. I think they've changed it since then. Yeah, but it used to just be like, if you click that, it automatically reposts for you. So I've Just reposted, like, random, like, people dancing that I've just scrolled past.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's so funny. And how do you know you did it?
Trisha Paytas
Because it'll say, like, repost it. I'm. Nope. And I go back up and I do it. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, TikTok is scary. Even the like button is, like, so scary to hit.
Trisha Paytas
Well, shout out Gottmik from RuPaul's Drag Race. You love fan.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
The edit I did of the fa. Gottmik liked it, and I got the notification because I am tagged in the post, so I screenshot it.
Jimmy Wetzel
So I love Gotmik.
Trisha Paytas
I want friend of the pod.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. I want him on the podcast. Oh, my God. Like, everybody. Everything iconic in every way. Love the book, Jerry. The book with Gigi.
Trisha Paytas
No, I haven't.
Jimmy Wetzel
So good. Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
I remember they were advertising it on the subway in New York. There was, like, ads on the subway. Okay.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's crazy. Yeah. That was cool because you're with a publisher. They probably do all that because I always see those. I'm like, that's pretty impressive.
Trisha Paytas
I need to read more books.
Jimmy Wetzel
You're not a book reader.
Trisha Paytas
I want to be. I have, like, a little collection. I do love, like, a graphic novel. I've read a couple like, Scott Pilgrim. And you love Scott.
Jimmy Wetzel
That also seems, like, above your generation.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I. I.
Jimmy Wetzel
Is it your generation? No, it's just a little bit, I.
Trisha Paytas
Think, like, definitely, like, I'm the probably youngest maybe, of people, like, that got into it back in the day. But, like, loved the movie.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you watch it?
Trisha Paytas
Was it Michael?
Jimmy Wetzel
Sarah?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Yeah. It's a stacked cast. It's like, Chris Evans, Brie Larson, Aubrey Plaza.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, really?
Trisha Paytas
Anna Kendrick is in it? It's.
Jimmy Wetzel
What year is that?
Trisha Paytas
Like, 2011 or 12, I think. But, yeah, the comics. I read the comics in middle school. Then the movie came out. There's a video game. They came out with a new Netflix animated series, like, two years ago. I loved that.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's so funny, that.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Seems like you. I don't know. I didn't. I didn't care for the movie, but it wasn't for me. Maybe I'm not there.
Trisha Paytas
I definitely think that the movie, of all the, like, different Scott Pilgrim, like, things is definitely, like, lower on the.
Jimmy Wetzel
List of, like, okay, so you agree.
Trisha Paytas
Favorites, but, like, it's still iconic.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love Edgar Wright. So I was like, oh, I'm gonna, like, love this movie, because I really did love, like, everything he did done before that. And then when I saw that, I was Kind of like, I don't know, but it's so different than the movies he did before. Like, all the was like, hot fuzz in those movies I used to watch. And I was like, I loved it, but it was not my favorite. I didn't meet him. I used to stand in line for him. When I do, like, meet and greets, I always think about who I stood in line for. And I remember standing line for Edgar. Right?
Trisha Paytas
I love that you did that. Like, that's so funny to me.
Jimmy Wetzel
I need to find that photo because I'm like, with him and it, like, it's very. It's very odd. And I stood in line for like three hours. I think it's for Kevin Smith. We talked about that on George Gate last time, how I thought I looked like him. I think it's in line to see him.
Trisha Paytas
I'm like, I only know him. I've never seen anything he's made. What? The only thing I know him from is Degrassi. He was. He. I guess he was like. There was an episode in, like, the early Degrassi seasons, which, like, I've seen almost all of Degrassi from, like, season one to, like, whenever Holly J. Left. Like, that is like, when I tapped out, I was like, okay, the OG generation's, like, gone.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay, how many seasons? Like, 10 seasons.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, probably like 13, at least. Wow. But yeah, in like, middle Degrassi. Like, they. I guess he was like, we're filming a movie here at Degrassi High because I think he's Canadian. So Kevin Smith?
Jimmy Wetzel
He might be, maybe.
Trisha Paytas
But yeah, that's how I learned who this guy was.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, but like, he was on Degrassi saying he's filming a movie.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, he's playing himself. And they're like, we're filming a movie at the school. Who wants to be in it? I'm pretty sure that was the plot.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. Yeah, just like one line like that.
Trisha Paytas
Or he had a couple of lines. He was like. He was heavily featured in the episode. Episode.
Jimmy Wetzel
And you're like, who is this?
Trisha Paytas
You thought he was like, I literally like, who is this? So then, like, when I started to see him, like, in stuff, I was like, oh, my God, Kevin James from Degrassi or Kevin Smith?
Jimmy Wetzel
I just said Hugh Grant, Kevin Smith. Okay, I guess.
Trisha Paytas
Love Kevin James.
Jimmy Wetzel
You like Kevin James?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, he's so handsome.
Jimmy Wetzel
I. Stop it.
Trisha Paytas
I feel it. I feel in the. In the UPS uniform with the little.
Jimmy Wetzel
Shorts, you are literally my mom. Like, you are the middle aged woman that you were talking about earlier. Oh, my God, that's crazy. Okay, whatever.
Trisha Paytas
The gays out there, like, Kevin James. No, maybe not all of them, but, like, there's a lot of them. If you feel me. You feel me?
Jimmy Wetzel
Give me one. One gay out there that's like, Kevin James is hot. If there's one person, he thinks so too.
Trisha Paytas
We both watch King of Queens, and we're like, oh, my God, Lia Rim. And he's so hot. She's so funny. And then we're like, kevin James, he's so funny. He's so hot.
Jimmy Wetzel
Here. I always thought I was a gay man, but maybe I'm not. That's so crazy. That's so wild. I would be more Kevin Smith. I'd be like, yeah, he has. He's a swag to him for sure. He lost a bunch of weight, though. It is crazy when people lose again. I love that everyone lose weight for their health or whatever, but they do change a little bit. I do think. I don't know if it's like, I don't know who's on Ozempic, who's not, but sometimes they say Ozempic and Manjaro changes your mind the way you, like, feel about food. So I wonder if it changes my, like, your personality too, because sometimes when people get really skinny, it's like their personality changes and not, like, in a. Not a negative way. Like, Jonah Hill's the one I think of where, like, he always seemed super. Like, in interviews early on, he always seemed, like, very sweet and nice. And then, like, once he got skinny, he started getting really, like, angry and mean. Yeah, I'm like, what happens there?
Trisha Paytas
I. I feel like he's. He's done some stuff where he's, like, kind of said some nasty things lately. And I felt I was feeling bad for him for a while because, like. Like, there would be compilations of, like, people just fat shaming him mid interview on, like, the Tonight show and, like, all these. And like, he just is like, what the hell? Like, he's on a press junk. Yes. So I felt bad for him and, like, obviously you could still feel bad for him despite whatever. I. I don't really know exactly what he's said and done, but I know that he. People are like, he's kind of not a great guy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. But I feel like that changed. I don't know, maybe once again, maybe it's the way media treated him or something like that, because he'd, like, changed so much. It's like he used to seem like such a happy, go lucky guy.
Oscar
Because I think he treats himself something that's partly psychological, spiritual with. With the. Something that's more material. Like you're not addressing the issues. I think, you know, if anything it pushes people even further.
Trisha Paytas
I feel like maybe doing Ozempic with like therapy could probably because it's like it's probably. It's such a dramatic physical change. I can't imagine how that affects.
Jimmy Wetzel
I always think about that like just dropping a ton of weight. Yeah, I always think about that in general like a. Of lot of influencers who have dropped a ton of weight. Like I think of Remy, Joe Bader, I think of Finita and I always think. And you see like their psyche or even their personality change. Not like in a mean way, not in a bad way, just in a very different way. Where at the beginning they were just like so like light hearted, happy, funny. And then you can just see the way people talk about them, good or bad is like affecting them and it makes me so sad and they do the best they can. But I couldn't, I couldn't imagine either. Like also you lose weight, there's probably so many things like in your head thinking like oh, so people do treat me better. Like it's a double edged swords. Like oh this is better because people treat me better. But like why wasn't I good enough when I was big Baker? But also, oh, I supposed to get all the success when I'm skinny. But also I'm not getting this because I thought I was gonna get because I was skinny or I don't know, there's all these different things or oh, everyone's gonna be excited because some people lose weight and everyone cheers and then other people lose weight. Everyone's like liar, didn't tell us, cheater, like all this stuff, it's like such a crazy thing. So I don't know if I would. Yeah how I would handle that either. I don't know. Kudos to everyone who does it. But yeah, it is always like, oh, she's too fat. And then she loses weight. Oh, she's skinny, doesn't look good. Or she like looks. Gosh, she looks. It's just like it seems like the.
Oscar
Body also doesn't react too well to it happening fast.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Like people losing hair, teeth, eyesight. I don't know what like people are just.
Jimmy Wetzel
And.
Oscar
And your body doesn't have time to adjust so suddenly you just look like the gun. Like you just look.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, yeah.
Oscar
So I don't know. It's slow and steady.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you ever get in the Diet fads back in the day? No, no, I escape that. I.
Trisha Paytas
Well, I grew up really thin.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, so you never had issues?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but I. It's obviously like not the same struggle, but I definitely, like, had a lot of body image issues because I was a lot thinner, like.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, interesting.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like in high school, I remember this guy came up one time. I was just sitting there with my friends and he like, squeezed my arm. He was like, just as I thought, nothing there. And I was just. And it was like, mortifying.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, really?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. So I. I started like going to the gym and lifting weights and like bulking up.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, you're so, like, beefy now. You go to the gym, you have the thing. So was it because you felt. You felt like, skinny was bad?
Trisha Paytas
I guess I just, I didn't. I just didn't like how I looked. Like I didn't feel confident, I guess. So I started putting on weight for that reason. And I mean, I definitely noticed like a shift in attention that I got for sure. Especially from like gay men then.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, interesting.
Trisha Paytas
Once I started, like, going to the gym and like posting a. Post gym, like little selfie or something like that.
Jimmy Wetzel
They like, thicker.
Trisha Paytas
I think they just like, just like more traditional, like conventionally attractive, I guess. Like body. I don't know. I don't know what it is. But the lesbians, they've been there from every era. So. Yeah, Ride or die with the lesbian wetsies.
Jimmy Wetzel
Honestly, Lesbian Wesleys, we love that. No, that's my goal is just to have an all lesbian audience. And that's it. That's all I want. That would be. Maybe I'll go host lesbian night. I always ask for like gay nights down in WeHo, but I'm like, maybe there was like a lesbian night.
Trisha Paytas
That'd be fierce. There's not a lot of spaces for lesbians, unfortunately, like in media or in the world in general. Like in everything, but especially, like, bars. Like, there's like, very few lesbian bars.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah. They only have like, lesbian nights.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, like gay bars in general are also like, kind of dying like it. Because people are just not going out and socializing in that same way. And it's really tough for like, drag queens who perform at these bars.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But like, I don't. I think there might even be literally be like less than 10 lesbian bars in the entire United States.
Jimmy Wetzel
That is wild.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
That is crazy. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
My aunt is a lesbian and she was like a second mother to me growing up. Like, she was very integral in my life, weirdly, was Afraid to come out to her, like, because really? Yeah. I don't even know why. I think it was because it was like just, it was just a secret. Like, I don't want to tell anybody. Like, it's just hard to even say the words.
Jimmy Wetzel
But when did you come out?
Trisha Paytas
I was 18. Wow. Which is like both young and late.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, right. Because people are like 14 now coming out.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Which is amazing.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I think I went to an all boys Catholic high school, so I think that was part of the reason why I didn't. Because I like saw how some of the even more like effeminate, flamboyant guys in my class would get bullied. So I was like, I'm barely gonna talk to anybody during the day besides my friends because, like, I don't need to invite that into my space.
Jimmy Wetzel
But I think even the younger generation, as someone who has like a son and they don't, they don't know his sexuality or his gender identity or anything like that, they just kind of just. He's just him like, you know what I mean? And I think that's so interesting too, how it's like, maybe they won't come a day where you have to like come out necessarily. People are just like, yeah, whatever, you know, whatever you like is. Because it is a crazy thing to have to say your sexuality to someone like, I'm gay. It's like, that's such a weird thing. You should just be. I don't know. Or even that it's different. But I think, I think generation Beta, I think they, it won't be like that where. Because they'll just see it so much everywhere, you know, same sex parents, all this stuff like that, where it's just like not even a thing.
Trisha Paytas
It's just like, oh, I get afraid that like the algorithms that they're all just like so locked into are going to make them like super conservative, traditional like, mindset. Because like I saw recently on some like, late night show show, they like signed up for Tick Tock as like a high school boy. And within 30 minutes they were being fed like misogynistic stuff on their algorithm.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh my God, that's so scary.
Trisha Paytas
Really scary.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I know. Like, what. And again, what do you do to stop it? Like, that's like the worst thing is like, I hate hearing about stuff. Like a lot of people, I don't, don't watch stuff because I just feel so helpless because I feel like, what can we do? Yeah, that's what I always ask about that stuff. Even like that Kind of thing is, like, what you do to stop it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
You, like, can't.
Trisha Paytas
I don't even have an answer for that. I just know it's happening and then keeps me awake.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Terrifying. Yeah. You're talking about being close with your niece. Do you ever get, like, the baby fever? The itch? Do you think you'll have kids?
Trisha Paytas
I mean, you're so young now, but, yeah, I definitely. It's something I'm like, I'll think about it again when I'm in my mid-30s, I think, because I think that's when my parents had me and.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, really?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. My mom, I know she was 35 when she had my sister, so. Yeah, 30, like 33 when she had me.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wow. Yeah. I'm 31 of my 37. 37. About to have my third baby. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I think that's a good age because, like, you really. You really. Not to shame young mothers or fathers like that because, like, I know plenty and they have amazing kids. But I know for me personally, like, I couldn't imagine even now, like, having a child because it's like, you have to. It's so much to financially support them. And I can barely remember to eat myself, like, with my. And everything. So, like, it's that. But then it's also like, I don't know, you spend a lot of your time in your 20s, like, figuring out who you are and.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And, like, it's probably really difficult to do that with a child.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I applaud people in their 20s doing. Because that's. That's so wild to have to, like. Yeah. Think of someone else because it is. Oh, your whole. And it's your whole life. So when you have a kid. So, yeah, having a kid at 20, which is. I always wanted. I want to be a mom from, like, 23. I think I was, like, trying and stuff like that, but I couldn't even imagine because, like, it does become your whole life being a parent. So it's like you really do have to give up your life. And yes, it's like 18 years and, like. But I think because we were both older, it was kind of like we lived our lives where, like, there is something in you and you're like, mid-30s, late-30s. Not everyone, but for a lot of people where it's just like. It just seems like the next step. You're like, I've lived my life. What's next? You know what I mean? So. But you're so good with kids. That's why I wondered. You said that Your niece?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I don't really feel the call calling at all to have my own children. But I. I do love kids. They're hilarious and so creative and it's so fun and I feel more confident. Like when I'm at a social setting and there's a kid there, I'm like, let's like play pretend. Like we just. We're all sitting at the table and I'm like playing the dolls with them and playing the boo Boo.
Jimmy Wetzel
Because, like, you are like a kid. Like the Nintendo.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. It's like, all I gotta do is focus on the scene that we're building. Like, I don't have to really, like, think about the social aspect anywhere else. So I'm just kind of like, okay, I'll do the babysitting so, like, the mom can get a break.
Jimmy Wetzel
And that's a beautiful thing though too, I think. That's like, so beautiful. I was never connected to kids. For some reason I was gonna be a mom, but like, kids I was never connected to at first, but obviously now with kids it's like fun because we had a birthday party full of kids, like on Saturday, and I was like, so different how like, it like changes you and all that stuff. But we were talking about something way before that. Queer being kids.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, having queer kids.
Oscar
Lesbians. Words.
Trisha Paytas
Lesbians.
Jimmy Wetzel
Lesbians. Okay, well, that's.
Trisha Paytas
That's to add on to that. I really valued so much having my gay aunt who does not have children being like a secondary parent support system for me, especially in my teen years. My dad's ex wife was incredibly abusive. My mom passed away when I was 11, so it was years and years and years of just horrible things happening. So it was really great for me to have someone outside of my home. Home with no kids of their own. That was like an escape support system. Not that I think that like anyone in like Dallas's niece and nephew, my sister, if she ever has kids, are gonna have that same situation.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But you know, I. I know how much it helped me to like, be able to get on a train, go up to Connecticut and like, spend the weekend away from it all. Like, it. So I'm like, I want to have. I want to have the time to do that for my niece and nephews and stuff.
Jimmy Wetzel
Honestly. Yeah, like, the outside help of the family makes like such a difference. You're. Oh, my God. So losing your mom at that age, that like.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, she was. She was 35 when she was pregnant with my sister and she was diagnosed with breast cancer. So she. I Think she was getting chemo while she was pregnant. Yeah, I. Most of my mom growing up, she did not have hair. She was wearing a bandana.
Jimmy Wetzel
Ah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. How old was she when she passed?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, God. In early 40s.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
I was 11, so 35. I was 2. It's like, nine years later, I think.
Jimmy Wetzel
And you remember her doing. Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it was weird. Like, it was, like, five days before Christmas, and she was in the hospital for a few months, and I was, like, so excited for her to come home. And they kind of didn't tell us that, like, she was gonna pass away.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my gosh.
Trisha Paytas
So, like, I was excited for her to walk through the door, and it was, like, nurses carrying her and. Yeah, it was.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
Sorry, I didn't mean to, like, I kind of forget that. Like, it's, like, because it's so long ago for me that it's like. It's like, kind of. Kind of a trauma dump, but.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. No, that's. That's.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And they were like. Yeah. They were like, she'll make it to Christmas, and.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my gosh.
Trisha Paytas
They gave. She said. They said she had, like, five days and she had, like, seven hours or something. It was rough.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do you still, like, have you gone to therapy for it?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, not soon. Not as soon as I probably should have.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. Gosh. I. Like, as a parent, that's, like, my biggest fear. Oh, my God. That's so sad.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my gosh. And so then you would. You would have your aunt you'd go see, because you were in New York.
Trisha Paytas
It was my mom's sister, and, like, they were tight. Like, they were, like, a year or two apart, so. Yeah, very tight.
Jimmy Wetzel
And.
Trisha Paytas
You know, she had a lot of her friends from, like, childhood, like, still in her life, and they all had kids around the same time, so they call themselves the schoolyard girls. And so, like, they were a really great support system for me and my sister. But then, yeah, my. My dad started dating again, and I was always okay with it, but just wasn't the right person. And she really did not like my sister and I. Kind of. Kind of narcissistic. A lot of other, like, mental problems that were. She was not taken care of. And it was, like, really bad. Like, oh, my God. She would, like, scratch my mom's face out of photos and mine. That's, like the. Just, like, the only thing I really feel comfortable, like, sharing. Paint enough of a picture. But, like, just, like, seven or Eight years of, like, constant verbal abuse and stuff. I developed vitiligo of autoimmune disease from the stress and.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. And they're. They're divorced.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they got divorced in, like, 2017. He remarried last year to a beautiful, wonderful woman. I spoke at their wedding. I love her so much. She's amazing.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's her name. I love that.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I think she's from Montenegro, I believe.
Jimmy Wetzel
Pretty.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, she's. She's the coolest. She's so cool. She has two great kids. I'm excited to see them. We're going to Lake Tahoe in July.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. Okay. So there was, like, a happy ending.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Yeah. But it was really rough for a while, for sure. And I kind of just.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, kids, you're helpless. You can't, like, move out of the house. You can't go to mom, you know, like, that's.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, yeah. She moved in pretty quickly too. And it was like. It was just like hell. It was like I kind of didn't process how bad it was for the first few years. And then, like, as I, like, got in my, like, mid to late teens, like, I'm starting to have a lot of awareness of, like, this is not normal. This is, like, really insane. And, you know, it's.
Jimmy Wetzel
What was your escape? Like, what did you do?
Trisha Paytas
I did YouTube. I did YouTube. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Back then.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I started doing YouTube in 2007. I started making videos about webkinz.
Jimmy Wetzel
Are they still up?
Trisha Paytas
No, unfortunately, I deleted them. But the only the remnant of that era is I made because I thought people would. Would not call me gay if I had a fangirl that was in love.
Jimmy Wetzel
With me, I'm dead.
Trisha Paytas
So I made up Webkinzpet 97 Lover. And that account is still up.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's your girlfriend?
Trisha Paytas
That was. That was my girlfriend. It was just this girl who's obsessed with me.
Jimmy Wetzel
And what would she say?
Trisha Paytas
She just would leave comments like, love him. Jimmy's the coolest. And I was like, I'm not gay. This girl's obsessed with me.
Jimmy Wetzel
What a funny. I would think, like, make up a girlfriend, but you're like, let me make up a fan.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, well, I'm not. I'm not actually into girls, but, like, I need to show that girls could possibly like me. Like, why would a girl like me if I was gay? You know?
Jimmy Wetzel
So funny.
Trisha Paytas
So I started making those. And then I made videos about Sonic and I made, like, stop motion animation videos back then. Yeah. And I would review toys. And then I shifted to making like, the videos that are still up now about, like, Pokemon and other, like, video games, and I just review them.
Jimmy Wetzel
Them.
Trisha Paytas
And I did that for a really long time and then kind of stopped because my mental health was really bad in, like, 2020, you're. I know 2019 is not great for you. 2018 is.
Jimmy Wetzel
Mine was the. Those years were.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, the hotlines. I had them on speed dial.
Jimmy Wetzel
And it helped you?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I. I. One time they did put me on hold. I was like, diva.
Jimmy Wetzel
Were you like, I'm about to end it. They're like, hold for five minutes.
Trisha Paytas
There was. I. There was one time where the first time I called, they were like, what's your name? I was like, jimmy. And they said, chimney. And I was just like, Jimmy's, like.
Jimmy Wetzel
A very common name.
Trisha Paytas
Diva. If it was chimmy, I'd have called years ago. Like, that's crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
And they put you on hold how long?
Trisha Paytas
Like, five minutes. But, you know, it was good. I like, oh, no, I never, you know, I never. I think I'm very fortunate. I never made, like, plans. It was more just like, I was having anxiety attacks that were, like, really, really hard to deal with. And I, like, I couldn't think of anything else, and because of my ocd. So I would just. I needed to call someone to talk to on the phone.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's amazing that you were able to do that, because so many people, like, won't reach out for help, you know.
Trisha Paytas
In my senior year of high school, we had a social worker, like, in school, and she, like, the beginning of the year, every year, she would, like, say, like, here's an anonymous form. You don't have to come up to me and tell me if you want to see. Like, you just fill it out. You check yes or no, and you write your homeroom. And then, like, you know, send a slip, and it'll look like any other guidance slip for, you know, college counseling and stuff. Like, stuff like that. And, yeah, she was amazing. And that was like, a really great support and system for me in senior year when I finally, like, was speaking to her to just talk about, like, my home life, because it was just, like. It was like, getting really turbulent at that point.
Jimmy Wetzel
Of course. And if you have no one to talk about it with, then that's. That's the most terrifying thing as a kid is, like, having nowhere to go, having no one to talk to.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. I think that's, like, always the best piece of advice I could give people is like, reach out, like, to someone. I mean, just even talking about it, even if it's a hotline, even something like sometimes just talking or like letting it out like helps.
Trisha Paytas
And I was really afraid to call those hotlines because I was like oh my God. Like I don't want them to like trace my number and show up with an ambulance because I'm like it's not at that point but I just needed to talk to somebody and like if you communicate that like they will understand and that like you can call for like even the most minor thing. Like if it's, if you're, if you get triggered by something like you can, can talk to somebody.
Jimmy Wetzel
And how would you find the hotlines back then?
Trisha Paytas
You just, I think if you just Google like oh yeah, hotline. It's like the first result I'll like put it on screen and stuff.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, back then we didn't have. I didn't have Google or anything. So I was like, I remember being like so try to find where to get help and stuff like that. And it was like I remember I like called 911 a couple times because I was just like I need someone to talk to and but back then they would, yeah, they'd bring like an ambulance to your house because they would just. But it's good now. Yeah. With all, all the hotline work and stuff, it's amazing. Well, I'm glad I helped you. Like it's cool to like meet someone that like. And also you're just so well adjusted now. Like all that stuff. Like I would have no idea about you.
Trisha Paytas
I, I kind of like I'm. I, I was talking about this on my stream like two days ago as I'm drawing like a little boo boo holding a knife and I'm like trauma dumping. I'm like, yeah, like I would rather relive like a day during like my child abuse versus like a day in 2018 where like it was all in my brain. Cuz at least like with that it was like external. I could like leave the house. Like I was like crazy but like.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, cuz in your brain is you're like a prisoner and it's like I'd.
Trisha Paytas
Rather like the problem is external and I can just like lock my door and like play video games or something. Like as horrible as that was and like caused the eventual like kind of like mental breakdown that I had. I'd much rather that than, than live a day in my mind. But oh, when you were mentioning mentioning journaling, I used to journal every day too and I like I filled out an entire like 300 page journal in a month. One time it was like really crazy and like I have not. I not needed to journal in a few years because things have been good and if I like need to talk to some. Someone, I talk to my boyfriend about stuff.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But yeah, I don't know if I could ever. I thought about burning them because I just, I'm like, I don't know. I think it's important to keep them for sure.
Jimmy Wetzel
And I mean even just finding him in the garage, literally yesterday I was just like, not only was like so many emotions came back, but like I was just so grateful for him. And now I was like, oh my God. I was like really sad. Like literally I was like, I will give anything to find love. I will give anything that. So it's like kind of those reminders of like how far you've come because yeah, it can happen still when you're happy. Like depression.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
So when that happens, I try to reread that stuff for me to be like, okay, look how far you've come. Because it is, it's not easy. Surviving. I always tell people that too is like just surviving in this world. Like a day to day day is, is, is a struggle. And if you can, you know, make it through the day, that's like a big accomplishment. It's one of my favorite things that mean greets too is like people have great jobs. They're like lawyers or they're going to school or the medical. But I also love the people who are like just trying to live life, just trying to survive. I came to this show to like help me like you know, feel happy for a day. So I was like, that makes me proud too when people can just like make it through the day because that's.
Trisha Paytas
Making it through a day, especially when you're going through it. Yeah, that's a victory in itself because it's hard. Like I use to. I used to sleep like all day. Like I would like just like barely eat. So I was just tired.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And I started having anxiety attacks in my sleep. And that was when I was like, okay, I need to talk to a therapist. Like started anti anxiety medication, stuff like that. And that helped me a lot. Yeah, really helped me out.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, medication can be wonderful. And yeah, talking to someone can be wonderful. I did not know that. You're so, you're so bubbly and like light heart. Like I would never have any clue. And now being with your, with Dallas, you probably just like feel a sense of security that you have that you didn't have As a child.
Trisha Paytas
Absolutely.
Jimmy Wetzel
Can heal so much. They always say people like a relationship can't heal you, but sometimes it can help because I just wanted stability. And so like having like a stable relationship I feel really has like at least helped me mentally be like, okay, absolutely.
Trisha Paytas
And I'm also like, you know, it sucks to have gone through that. If I could change, it probably would. Just because it's like, it's just. It sucks.
Jimmy Wetzel
Abuse. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But you know, it really helped me like learn how the world works very young and kind of like develop a sense of self and like what I want in life very young. So I kind of didn't like have a sort of like quarter life Crisis at like 25, like a lot of people do.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Because I kind of just like kind of been through a lot of the worst that could happen. So it kind of just kind of made me.
Jimmy Wetzel
You went through it so young too. Like losing a parent at like 11, where you also remember it. I think it's awful when they're really young and can't remember it, but remembering all that too is like, I can't. I cannot even imagine that at all. So.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it was weird. It was really weird. I like, like I had to go to school for this like class Christmas party and like everyone's kind of like looking at me because they all know because like it's a very close knit neighborhood, all the parents tell each other, so everybody's kind of like looking and like, not sure what to say. My teacher, she passed away away a few years ago, but we had her for like four years in a row. And she, her grandson was my class. She was so cool, like hard teacher, but like she taught you good stuff. She was a really cool woman. She taught my dad, like it was crazy. So. And like, yeah, she offered to like drive anyone from my class to the funeral and wake.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wow.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And it was really cool seeing how many people like my mom connected with and stuff because like we had like five wakes and each time the line was like down the block. Like people she knew from childhood, people who she worked with. It was a lot people.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Really? So like when I like really reflect on that now as an adult, I'm like, wow, that's so cool.
Jimmy Wetzel
She impacted. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what were you going to say? You said it sucks.
Trisha Paytas
It's, it just sucks. Like as an adult like you, you definitely. There's new things that develop that you're like, oh, that's sad. Like when I'm with Dallas's family and I'M with his mom and I get to see, like, the friendship he has with her now that they're both adults. Like, yeah, it gets that I don't have that. So, like, it does. It doesn't get easier, doesn't get better, but it does get easier, I think, is what it is. Like, you just kind of process it differently, compartmentalize. And there are some things that, like, trigger me, but I, you know, you can recognize it. Yeah, yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
And like, kind of get a handle on. I don't know anything about grief. Like, that is one thing that I'm like, oh, I don't, I don't. I don't know how people navigate it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it's very weird. It's very weird feeling especially so young, but.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Mother's Day sometimes falls on my birthday.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, that's right.
Trisha Paytas
Which is great. It's like a little sick joke.
Jimmy Wetzel
I'm like, bro, yeah, I know those kind of days. Yeah, that's. That's really hard.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Yeah. But you know, somehow, like, I, you know, I still love, like, Christmas time and everything. Like, I. I never lit that, like, cloud it. Cuz like, we found ways to make it cute and honor her and stuff. Yeah. I think one of the, like, the Gaga night, I think is on her birthday, which is pretty cool. Oh. Oh, my gosh.
Jimmy Wetzel
Are you so excited?
Trisha Paytas
I'm very excited. I'm like, gagging about it all the time. Every time I think about it, I'm like, yay. So thank you for that.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, Japan's next. Okay, cool. Perfect. I'm always like, what could be next? We'll go there.
Trisha Paytas
I'll make a travel playlist of all the things we want to do.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Oh, my God. It's gonna be so fun. Oh, my gosh. Well, thanks for sharing all that.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you for letting me talk about it. I hate that. I feel like I kind of brought down the mood a little.
Jimmy Wetzel
No, no, no, no, no. I. First of all, I love talking. I love when people talk about that stuff. I think it's, like, good. It's helpful for people who listen to. You could do a whole. I mean. Yeah. I mean, people. I have so many questions because there's so much, like, advice from people who've gone through that stuff that I'm like, what's your advice? How do you pivot? How do you. How do you keep living through something like that? You know, a. There's. There's just like an endless. I'm very. I'm curious about all that. I think it's so. And that you talk about it. It's hard. I don't know. There's so many things that too, I like, don't want to talk about, especially step parents stuff where I'm just like.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Can just talk about it so much.
Trisha Paytas
But I didn't talk about it when it was happening ever, because it was just like, it was too much. But, like, now that's over and, like, my dad and I have really reconciled about it like, the last few years. And so, like, I'm definitely. I feel like I've been able to move on from that.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
In my life. But it was crazy. It was really crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my gosh. I can't.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Can't even fathom. Can't even imagine. I know, I know. How do we even.
Trisha Paytas
Jojo Se.
Oscar
You always need a pallet cleanser.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Oscar
Timothy Chalamet has a new cat.
Trisha Paytas
Name.
Oscar
It's a. The Scottish folded ear.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah. Its ears are folded in.
Oscar
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
And what's the. Are people liking this cat? Tim?
Oscar
Yeah, he just. He has a new cat.
Trisha Paytas
Love that.
Oscar
A lot of people like it.
Trisha Paytas
Club Ch over here.
Jimmy Wetzel
Are you a club?
Trisha Paytas
No. I've only seen Call me by your name, which I don't think is. Has aged very, well, but.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, really? Why? I haven't seen it.
Trisha Paytas
It's Army Hammer's in it for one. It's kind of a weird age gap relationship between him and Timothy Shami. Yeah. He's like. Timothy Cham's character is like 17 in it.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's like, are they in a relationship? Yeah, they're both straight.
Trisha Paytas
They're both straight in real life. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
But they play. Why do you feel about that? I always ask everyone this question.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I hate it. I hate it so much.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay, thank you.
Trisha Paytas
It really bothers me.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
And I feel like I. I totally understand that the argument of, like, they're just actors. Do you want Stanley Tucci to be out of a job? Like.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, Stanley Tucci's fine.
Trisha Paytas
I get that. But it's like. Okay. But when there are gay actors that get denied roles.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Because they're too gay to play the gay. Like, it. It's such a complex issue that it's like, it just doesn't feel like authentic representation. And when they're. You talked about Matt Bomer.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Losing out on Superman years ago, even though he looks exactly like the comic books. Like, it would have been perfect casting. Lost out on it because he got outed his game. Gay. Like, that is so frustrating. Like, that is such a continuing issue in Hollywood. And it's very annoying that straight guys continue to play gay roles and like they're like I on, on like one hand, like I. If they do a good job and it's like a great performance, like it's fine. But it just like, it just sucks that it often feels like gay people aren't even in the room reading for the roles. Like it doesn't even like think it doesn't even cross their mind. Like if it's between like Jonathan Bailey and like three other gay guys and like a straight guy and the straight guy just happens to really sell it better for this specific character. Like, fine. But I just feel like the gays are not even getting the calls.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
So.
Jimmy Wetzel
Or the authenticity. I didn't really realize like how big of it, how big of a difference it makes. Like for instance, like watching I love Brokeback Mountain and I do love it. Obviously they're good actors and they won all these Oscars and it's great. But then when you watch something like Fellow Travelers and you just feel so much more knowing that the actors who played also have lived through the experiences. And maybe it's different, obviously, different eras, different times. But Matt Bomer not getting casted for Superman because of that. And so him also playing this like closeted straight man on this Fellow Travelers, the authenticity feels, I don't know, it just feels much more real.
Trisha Paytas
Absolutely.
Jimmy Wetzel
And like you said, there are so many amazing gay actors. So it's like, why not give it to. It makes me a tube with so many elements of. And maybe they're just like trying to be open minded about it being like, you know. Yeah, open the roles for everyone. But I don't know, it's just like anyone in a wheelchair too. It's like that should be played by someone in a wheelchair because it's just like nowadays, yeah. Those roles are hard to come by.
Trisha Paytas
So the actors exist. Like there are people that want to be actors and that is their life and this is a role that they can do accurately.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, and they don't get those. They don't get the roles as much as they. There is like mainstream. Yeah. Like straight roles and all stuff like that. So it's like that is. I think so. Yeah. It makes me. It makes it because there's a new one with Paul Mescal and someone else too. And it's just like, roll my eyes.
Trisha Paytas
I'm like, I'll watch it in gif form on Twitter. Like, I don't.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right.
Trisha Paytas
I'm just like, I'm Not. I'm over it. I'm over it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I'm sick of it.
Jimmy Wetzel
As. As people should be. It's like 20, 25. It's like, hello, what are we doing?
Trisha Paytas
I definitely think I'm in the minority on that opinion, for sure.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, I feel like you are, too, because I. I feel that way. And I was like, everyone's just like, no, whoever is the best actor. But I was like, I get that. And, like, any other role, but if there's, like, a very specific role. And it's kind of like, not to compare, but compare. Yes, Actually, like, that's noise. Seven doors. Like, a lot of the Dwarf actors are like. There's just, like, not a ton of rules for us. Like, the fact that there's this whole movie based on Dwarf, you know, it's like, we would like to play that, you know? I know. And it's both. Because then you have, you know, people. People like Peter Dinklage. Like, no, we shouldn't do that. I don't know. It's just, like. So you get both sides.
Trisha Paytas
It's a very. It's a definitely a complex issue, especially for things outside of, like, the sexuality aligning kind of. But I think that's, like, the beauty of people having different opinions and, like, getting to share, like, their perspectives on the issue.
Jimmy Wetzel
But it definitely should change because a lot of trans roles used to go to, like, CIS women, too. Like, trans America, I think was Felicity Huffman in. And I was just like, if you.
Trisha Paytas
Want, like, a cute gay movie set in Italy, watch Luca by Pixar. That is the best. The best movies they've ever made. I think it's so cute. It is such a queer allegory. I am, like, kind of, like, it's obviously not super overt, but, like, if you get it, you get it. Like, it's clear what. It is such a beautiful.
Jimmy Wetzel
Which is what is kind of also beautiful about it, too. It's kind of just like. Yeah, you just. You feel this one way. I bought some. That was one of the first movies we watched in this room, was Luca loved it. And there's actually one that is constantly being brought up in our heads for movie posters. Because we love the movie poster. It's, like, on water. The name is, like, really cute. Like, it's definitely one we've heavily considered is because that movie was. Oh, my God. When we watched, it was, like, so good. I love that movie so much. Yeah, Luca's so good. That's okay. That is so interesting.
Oscar
Bruno Silencio.
Trisha Paytas
Bruno I also like Pond Ponyo. That is my boyfriend and I like one of our favorite movies. Yeah.
Oscar
I mean, it's a legendary.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, yeah. So many Studio Ghibli. I love some of my favorite movies.
Jimmy Wetzel
I know. I kind of like the name too. But it's a girl, I guess.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but like, Elvis is.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's true.
Trisha Paytas
A guy generally.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, I guess. Ponyo. But, you know, sometimes in, like, there's female and male versions, so I didn't know if there was, like, a male version. I guess it doesn't matter. Whatever. Gender neutral. Baby, over here. Timothy. Oh, the cat. I was like, what do we talk about? Tim. Sh. You like him or no?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I mean, I. I like him as much as any other celebrity.
Jimmy Wetzel
Not like a Stan Club sham.
Trisha Paytas
No. But I do want to watch Dune and Dune two.
Jimmy Wetzel
I've heard you never seen. No, don't watch him. Okay.
Oscar
Watch.
Trisha Paytas
I haven't seen it either.
Oscar
Definitely the new ones. The old one is so different from the new one. It's a different world.
Jimmy Wetzel
I don't think it's our kind of movie. I don't think. I think we're. We're not into that. I think we're into the. What are we into? Jimmy, That's a movie. Hurry up. Tomorrow. Did you see that one?
Trisha Paytas
No. 13 going on 30. Okay. I saw that movie for the first time, like, a few months ago, and I was just like, how is everyone in this movie not like an Academy Award winner?
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, you loved it.
Trisha Paytas
It is one of the greatest movies of all time. Wow. Jennifer Garner. Yes.
Jimmy Wetzel
So many Jennifers out there.
Trisha Paytas
I know. I'm like, going through the role that Coolidge.
Jimmy Wetzel
Laura Lopez.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I always, always confuse her with Hillary Swank in my mind too.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. They give similar vibes. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Literally her being 30, but acting like she's 12 at the beginning of the movie and like, her. Her, like, physical comedy is like. It is a master class. Like, she's incredible. It's such a good movie.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love that. You just discovered it too. I love that.
Trisha Paytas
I've never seen it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I was just like, oh, like, does she think she's 30? No, like, she.
Jimmy Wetzel
She's 30.
Trisha Paytas
Go through time.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
It's. It's such a good movie.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love those movies too.
Trisha Paytas
But I do love a. I love a. Like a sci fi. I watched Star wars for the first time a few months ago, and I really liked it. We stopped to watch Mandalorian.
Oscar
Dune is so much more like Star Wars. You need to like the storyline. You need to like the Whole saga. But Dune is just like. It's spaces, places, you know, it's like you can just enjoy being in this. In the atmosphere that they created for the movie.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
You know, we started, I think. I think. Did you talk about maybe not. Maybe it was Oscar you watched Overcompensating.
Trisha Paytas
No, that was Oscar.
Oscar
Yeah, Oscar.
Trisha Paytas
I've heard of it, though.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's kind of good. We started watching it.
Trisha Paytas
Posters for it near my apartment.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I think you had to, like, start watching it. It was good. Yeah, Oscar. Oh, I know. Oscar told us about it, but I thought. I thought you had maybe someone else I was talking to. But it's so good. I follow. I'm Oomphies with Benito Skinner.
Trisha Paytas
That's so cool.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. And I was like, do you want to come to my podcast? He said he was, like, trying to get on my show in Chicago. I was like, oh, my. I love it so much. It's. That's another really good one. Kyle McLaughlin, who's in Dune, that's what made me think that one is like. Do you love him? Thank you.
Trisha Paytas
So many don't know him from your grassy. I know him from. He was in a Marvel show called agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and he played, like, one character's, like, long lost father, like, very random. Good in it, though. He was very good.
Jimmy Wetzel
He pops up everywhere.
Trisha Paytas
But I know he's. He's in Twin Peaks, which I have not seen, but I need to watch.
Jimmy Wetzel
Because I love Twin Peaks. Is very good.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. X Files. I love X Files.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah. It's. It gives the same vibes. Yeah. Did it come out the same time or. No, I guess X Files was later.
Oscar
Yeah. I mean, they're very different, but. Yeah. When I was a kid, I watched X Files and Twin Peaks before, probably.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do you do that for Housewives? Have you ever seen it?
Trisha Paytas
No, I haven't. There's so many things I just haven't seen.
Jimmy Wetzel
Desperate Housewives and Lost are like two shows. I tell everyone, like, you Lost, you like it?
Trisha Paytas
I like the first three seasons, and then it kind of. It kind of fell off.
Jimmy Wetzel
It loses the plot for sure. We're like, what the hell is going on?
Trisha Paytas
But I loved Lost. John Lock is like, one of my favorite characters. Anything. When I started. Started it. I started getting clips of you as him on my tick tock feed.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, is that when you started watching it?
Trisha Paytas
No, no, I started watching it like, oh, my God. It took us like, a whole year to get through it. I watched. We. My friends and I, we watched On Discord, we had, like, a Monday movie.
Jimmy Wetzel
Day or, like, what year, though, we started?
Trisha Paytas
2024, I think.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, so really? Oh, so that's what you're saying, like, clips of me?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, old clips would come up, and I was just like, oh, my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, have you seen my Lost podcast?
Trisha Paytas
No, but I should watch it now that I finished the show.
Jimmy Wetzel
I did a lot. Like, we tried everything before this got podcast. Moses would build me different sets, and he built me a Lost podcast set upstairs. And I had all the cardboard cutouts of all the Lost characters behind me, and I would cosplay each week as someone new.
Trisha Paytas
So, John Boss, I've seen the maternity photos of you as Hurley.
Jimmy Wetzel
Hurley.
Trisha Paytas
And sighed Hurley. Yes.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love Saeed. I'm obsessed to this day.
Trisha Paytas
He's, like, one of the top three characters for sure.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, so good. We were watching a show he's in on, like, Amazon prime called, like, Pradeeps of Pittsburgh that, like, no one about. Yeah. Kind of like, in the past year.
Trisha Paytas
That's cool. He's still acting because I don't think I've seen anyone from Lost besides Evangeline Lily in anything. She was an ant man.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, right, right, right. Naveen Andrews, who played Saeed, he was also in the Dropout on Hulu. Did you see that one with Elizabeth Holmes and it was Amanda Sey Freed?
Trisha Paytas
No. Oh, I know the story, though.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
The drop of the blood.
Jimmy Wetzel
And you never watched the Dropout?
Trisha Paytas
No.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. Can I tell you that's why I started watching Lost, because I saw him on that show, and I was like, that guy's fine. Like, yeah, he played her boyfri. Literally. We so hot.
Trisha Paytas
My entire group of gays. And they's. We would all just be like, he's in a tank top again.
Jimmy Wetzel
I was salivating. Well, this. He filmed the dropout, like, 2023. So he's, like, older, and they gave him, like, a belly, but I still thought he was so sexy.
Trisha Paytas
That's hot to me.
Jimmy Wetzel
So hot. He's dating Amanda Sey Freed in the show. So, like, she's into him. So I was like, God, this guy's so hot. So I started watching. He was in Once Upon a Time in Wonderland. He played Jafar, I think. Did you ever get into those Once Upon a Time?
Trisha Paytas
No, but I would see the commercial breaks when I was watching the Marvel show, the column clock.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
So I do know that it's like Vampire Diaries version of Disney. Just campy.
Jimmy Wetzel
You would love it, too. I. I love. No, you know this Naveen Andrews is like my dream guy.
Oscar
We haven't watched the Cleaning Lady.
Jimmy Wetzel
The Cleaning lady, season two. He's the villain. Like, he.
Trisha Paytas
Did you skip two Season two?
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah. There's like a new season. Don't care. He died in the second season. Like, don't care.
Trisha Paytas
They need to put him on severance. So you actually watch because I love severance.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, you love Severance?
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
I was going through it. I was like, oh, I was safe from spoilers from this cuz like Trish hates it and spill says comes on. It's just like, oh, my God. And then this scene. I was like, no.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah. She loved it. Tana loved it.
Oscar
My whole tik tok was severance at the time.
Jimmy Wetzel
It sounds horrible. Like, the More spoilers. I love a spoiler. I want to usually watch a show based on spoiler. More spoilers. I'm like, this sounds not good.
Oscar
You can't really describe it. You can't describe it.
Trisha Paytas
It's hard to describe. There's gay storyline on it. And it's two.
Oscar
Oh, and you do like him.
Jimmy Wetzel
Who? Who's the gay storyline?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. What's his name? He's so famous. Oh, my God. I got to look him up. Oh, my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
Benio del Toro.
Oscar
No, he's John.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, he's gay. He's gay.
Jimmy Wetzel
And see also not gay in real life.
Oscar
Problematic.
Trisha Paytas
See that?
Jimmy Wetzel
I was just like, that's fine.
Trisha Paytas
That's a hypocrisy.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's.
Trisha Paytas
That's the I. E. My own words. Because I'm just like, oh, my God. So cute.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, love, love John Toro. I love him. He was in Secret Window. He was so good.
Trisha Paytas
I'm trying to think of the reasons are so famous. I'm just gonna look at the other one.
Jimmy Wetzel
You guys are selling me on it now. I love John.
Trisha Paytas
Turo brought up the gaze to you because I'm like that.
Jimmy Wetzel
No one did.
Oscar
He's an amazing Christopher Walker. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
They're gay together.
Trisha Paytas
They're getting it. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. Those are two straights. We allow. We're like, you can be, I guess.
Trisha Paytas
Kind of spoilers, but it's like a B plot. So it's like. It's not. It doesn't like, ruin the twitch, but like, they. They don't know each other in outside, but inside. Their Persona, their. Their severed halves meet each other and they fall in love, but they don't know each other outside. So, like, they don't even know they're in, like, a little, like, love moment.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, my God. Wait, that's kind of cute.
Oscar
Yeah. Christopher Walken has a relationship outside with a woman. Married? No, with a man.
Jimmy Wetzel
But yeah, he's gay inside and out. I love that they didn't change them. They're not like, you're only gay in here.
Oscar
That would be an interesting.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right. Okay.
Oscar
Playing dead.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love that.
Trisha Paytas
If you're not closeted at work, like you.
Jimmy Wetzel
They're like, you have to be right. Once you're out here.
Trisha Paytas
Forget. They don't know homophobia. All they know is the office. All they know is Lumen.
Oscar
It only works if it was closeted in real life. But then at work.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's actually the gay version of. Okay. Although I will say people try to get me that with, like, Last of Us. I skipped what Episode four, season one, where it was Murray Bartlett being gay with Nick Offerman, I think it was. And I thought that was gonna get me because Murray Bartlett is my favorite.
Trisha Paytas
Have you seen Looking?
Jimmy Wetzel
No, what's that?
Trisha Paytas
It's kind of an old show. I don't know how well, like, some of the story lines hold up, but.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, is he young in it?
Trisha Paytas
It's. He's like in. I don't know how old he is, but it's like from 10 years ago, at least it was the HBO show called Looking. Daniel Fri from Mean Girls is in it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, Jonathan Groff from 10 years ago.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
I guess it's around the Glee era for him.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And it's about a couple gay guys in San Francisco and their life has like two seasons and. Yeah, I loved it years ago. I haven't watched it in a long time, so I don't. I can't, like, vouch for how. Well, maybe some of the storylines hold up.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But still, overall, it's like, it's a cute show and Murray Bartlett's in it and he's amazing. And he is friends with a woman, older woman, same, like, age as him. And she's just like a straight woman that hangs out with the gays. And I want to be in the show. She's my favorite character. I don't remember her name.
Jimmy Wetzel
You're the middle aged woman again, in the middle.
Trisha Paytas
I. I love a female character in a group of gays because she's just so, like, she's just so down to just party.
Jimmy Wetzel
I need to watch this. I love, obviously, White Lotus. I loved him, but I loved him in Chippendales too. Did you watch that series? It was so good too.
Trisha Paytas
He has two seasons and a movie looking Good.
Jimmy Wetzel
Done and done. But the last of us, I couldn't get into. I was like, God, I really love these two actors. And I just kind of.
Trisha Paytas
I played a little bit of the first video game, but I didn't finish it. I liked it, though.
Jimmy Wetzel
Too violent.
Trisha Paytas
So I was like, well, I don't want to watch the show because I want to play the game. And then I could see how the show is different. And then I just never got into either. But my boyfriend played the first one.
Jimmy Wetzel
Recently, last of us. I can't get into him. I. Yeah, I don't know. I know everyone loves it, but I guess, again, not the target audience. Right here.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you see Pedro Pascal called himself a old lazy 50 year old. Did you see that clip of him in the movie theater?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I did. I was not, not on the Pedro train, but recently that, like, press junket he was doing where he had, like, the sleeveless and he's just like, like, like being with the mustache. I was just like, I get it.
Jimmy Wetzel
I. I get it too now. I was kind of. I was kind of off. I was on the hate train. I think for him, the only one that was on there. I was like, I'm overseeing him too much by Pascal. But he is gorge and he's just funny and cutesy and every little clip you see of him, like, he's just like, in a regular movie theater, like an amc, just like walking up the stairs and someone.
Trisha Paytas
He was with, James Marston in that.
Jimmy Wetzel
Clip I didn't recognize. Just casually, do you even notice James Marsden next to him?
Trisha Paytas
I only knew it was him from the caption saying it was James Marsden.
Jimmy Wetzel
And they were just a random. What movie were they seeing? Like, their movie was Leaving Stitch. Like, let's go see this movie. I can see it. I love him. He is a dream guest for sure.
Trisha Paytas
That'd be great.
Jimmy Wetzel
We have like two. There's two more I want to touch on. Did you see. You keep.
Oscar
We can go a bit longer too.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, okay. Yeah. Do you keep up on Justin Baldoni?
Trisha Paytas
I did have that written down, but I wasn't sure if people were, like, kind of over that topic.
Jimmy Wetzel
I think Oscar's over the topic because he's. He's so. And it's like, I. I'm so in it. And I don't like to bring it up because I know, like, it's like, if I don't like talking about something, I don't want to bring it up. You know what I mean? But did you see that the. So I Didn't even know about all this. Taylor Swift was supposed to be.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Subpoenaed.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. So I. My only frame of reference for this entire case is this podcast, as is most things. Like, I didn't know it was Remy and Alicia. I thought it was Remy and. And Alicia. I know there's one person which. Oh, my God. Is that Remy Ashton?
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. Mr. Remy Ashton.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Back to Lubu. Oscar sent me her bridal party. She gave everyone in the bridal party a bouquet, and I was just like, I don't know you, but I want.
Jimmy Wetzel
To be in the wedding.
Trisha Paytas
Can I be in the wedding?
Jimmy Wetzel
She's the original Labubu queen. She, like, started the trend. She's been on it first doll. Mission reaction is my everything. I hate that she has a podcast. Zane and Heath. But everything else I love about her. She's getting married. She's beautiful. She's just. Everything about her is beautiful. I love her so much. And she was the original Abu Boo queen. But she dominoes 11 domino sponsorship. Yes. She has everything we want. She's our girl. Everything we want to be is this Remy Ashton. I love her. I think she getting married soon. She had her bridal shower, so I think she's getting married soon. But. No, but say my information comes from Spill Sash. I watch, like, all the stuff Spill such videos about it. That's why we were always surprised that Oscar never brought it up because he loves Taylor Swift. But I'm like, maybe because he loves her too much. He doesn't want to, like, get met. I get it. Like, you know, you don't want to comment too much about someone's personal life. But it was so interesting. Moses, even outside the podcast, Moses would bring up this. This Taylor Swift thing. I was like, what are you talking about? No one's talking about this. But that's all I see now is on Tick Tock is people talking about, yeah, Taylor Swift was supposed to be Sabina. And I guess Blake Lively. All of this alleged, of course, was like, mad that she didn't, like, defend her and, like, stick up for her. But I guess it's dropped now that she or Justin Baldoni dropped the subpoena.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, really?
Jimmy Wetzel
Right. That's what I had heard that she's like, no longer.
Oscar
Well, I mean, to begin with, everything that we heard was a conversations between the lawyers. So one lawyer asked from the other. So, like, so one lawyer was the one that said that basically from the text messages like, that the request was that she will support Blake Lively and if she doesn't support Blake Lively. Blake will release 10 years, years of text messages that they have between them, stuff like that. So. But I would say, like, maybe it's the lawyer. Maybe that's how he talks. You know, maybe the lawyer is just like, you know, she has. That we will release. We'll do like, we don't know.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Oscar
So it's not words coming out of her mouth, but it's definitely her lawyer.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
This is on paper, you know, I guess.
Jimmy Wetzel
How is Taylor Switch involved? She was just like, she wasn't on the set. Right. She was just at the house that day.
Trisha Paytas
I think there's like a. That meeting allegations that when Justin Baldoni like, went to meet with Blake, she had Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift in the room when they were like casting or like pitching the movie or they.
Oscar
Were talking about the storylines. They were talking about the story and the changes she wanted to make to the script at the time.
Jimmy Wetzel
But why was she subpoenaed into this case? And our resident Taylor Swift fan, I was like, well, I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
The leech could not be here. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I was like, wait, but. But it's been happening for weeks. But. Because he hasn't brought up in the. Cool. I don't want to, like, bring it.
Oscar
Up, but she had some influence because, for example, I think the person making the music that Blake Lively brought in, she got it from Taylor Swift. There were specific things where people fired, people hired, and the people hired were from Taylor Swift team. So there was some overlap. And Taylor was used as a leverage point against Justin. So. And sometimes if you just want to get, like you said, text messages, emails, any correspondence, then you do that. So I don't know. I mean, and it could be that Justin was just, you know, they were smart to kind of pinch her, you know. Yeah. At a place that it hurts, you know, because they know she doesn't want that to happen.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do you have a side? Just from the podcast knowledge? You don't have to.
Trisha Paytas
I really don't. I think that's like, it sounds like a cop out answer, but like, I really don't, you know?
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Because like that footage that came out of the two of them talking about, like, again, that's like one moment. Who knows what else could have happened?
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But it didn't really seem like it benefited either of their cases. It just kind of seemed like two people work together talking like. I kind of. It just. I feel like both of their experiences are probably valid because they lived them. But, you know, there's. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Jimmy Wetzel
And it changes so much. We talked about it so much. I was so invested because again, I watched a lot of school sessions. I was so invested. And it's like, God, like, when it first came out before Christmas last year, you're just like, oh, my God, like, Justin Baldoni's done. And then the other stuff comes up and you're like, oh, my God, Blake is like the worst. Like, it really is so much back and forth where it is, and I see it and I'm still, like, really invested in it. But I too, get my knowledge, like, based on, like, TikToks and scrolling. These are like, you know, people read, like, whole documents, like, the whole court documents people are reading. I try. I consider myself a very good reader. I feel like I. Like, I can comprehend things, but those documents I cannot comprehend at all. And I'm always like, so I hear everything, like, kind of psychic. I'm so curious. I hear the stuff about Taylor Swift and I hear all this stuff and I'm like, is it going to be. Because it'll probably be in New York. The trial is going to be like the Diddy where it's, like, not televised and it's just like, people inside. I would like to be inside. I want to be one of the reporters there.
Trisha Paytas
To be like, well, it depends if it's.
Oscar
I think it also depends if it's federal court or not, because I think Didi is federal. That's what I heard.
Jimmy Wetzel
You don't think this one is federal?
Oscar
Probably not.
Trisha Paytas
Probably not. Isn't it. Isn't it federal when it takes place over multiple states? So if they filmed. If some of it was in la, some of it was in New York, it might be. I think that's what happened.
Oscar
But also I think it's the. That and the level of crimes. And here we're not really talking about crime, civil dispute. So it could be.
Trisha Paytas
I have no college degree and I'm like, yeah, you're so smart.
Jimmy Wetzel
You really are so smart. Like, I'm actually so impressed. Like, the way you articulate things, all the knowledge you have about stuff. Like, oh, my God. Even though Lilo and Stitch, at the beginning, I was like, oh, my God. Just a whole dissertation about.
Trisha Paytas
Exactly. Online. I think that's really all it is.
Jimmy Wetzel
Which is perfect. Which is why I was wonderful. I know I was like. It was so funny because, like, I had known a while that Oscar was going to be here today. And my. My default is always my sister. And obviously I love split session, too, but I was like, we should have Jimmy, because, like, so many comments are about you. And here I was thinking, like, even if we don't have Hot Topics, whatever, we can just talk. But you're, like, so knowledgeable about literally everything.
Trisha Paytas
It's crazy because I feel like I was like, okay, half the time when I'm looking up, like, B roll for the podcast, I'm like, I really hope this is the right person, because I've never heard of Alex Earl in my life. I thought she was all her daddy. I like. Like, Alex Earl, Alice Cooper.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, they do those two. I do get mixed up a lot. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, you know, they're killing it, but I just. I don't really follow.
Jimmy Wetzel
No. You never heard of them?
Trisha Paytas
No.
Jimmy Wetzel
Alex Joel just was announced as a second celebrity on Dancing with the Stars this past week, and you will be the third.
Trisha Paytas
So I don't know.
Jimmy Wetzel
I think as soon as I heard that, I was like, I think my chances are out the window because social media, they usually have one social media person on. Obviously can't compete with Alex Earl, dancing or falling followers. And Ezra commented, like, can't wait to see you in the ballroom. And I was like, the only one I want to be with is Ezra, so have a feeling they'll probably be together. So I was like, sorry, Dancing the Stars. If you come to me. I have to say no at this point because if Ezra's gone, then I can't. I don't want Glub. The girl who was with Gleb last season. I know you're probably not.
Trisha Paytas
I literally, again, only know the name Ezra because of this podcast.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wait, really? Ezra is icon, but glad. Anyways, he's kind of known for, like, just always having a romance with all his partners. And the last girl he had a romance with apparently now is lesbian. I think I just read. I think this morning. Yeah, I think she's. She's like, I'm dating women now, but I. I do not want to be partners with anyone straight. But they just have more gay dancers. You know, I'm always surprised, like, Latin ballroom dancing or ballroom dancing doesn't have more gay men. How come it's all straight men in there?
Trisha Paytas
That's a good question. Because, like, so many just dancers in general are gay men.
Jimmy Wetzel
I had a rehearsal yesterday for Pride, and we have all six of my dancers, and they're all just. They're just so gorgeous. It's so crazy. Like, I did have. I don't want to say a phase, but I was definitely only attracted to gay men. For a very long time in my life, which is like, a problem because obviously it's not weird to think of one problem. It was so. I don't know how to explain it. Like, I was only attracted to gay men like that. And obviously it's a problem both ways. It's a problem for me because it's not fair to me, but it's also a problem for them because there was a lot of gay guys that I think felt bad for me and like, wanted to maybe, like, would date me because they felt bad or they thought maybe, I don't know, like maybe thought they were bi. And then I kind of felt bad because then it's like they're not getting to live their true self because they're, like, dating me. It was just a whole thing. Anyways. But then yesterday, yeah, I had my first Pride rehearsal and all these guys, guys are just so gorgeous. And I remember leaving even I, like, even dressed cute. Normally I do not dress cute. I will wear big T shirts. I'm like, let me dress cute. And I'm so excited. I'm like. I was like, have fun. I was like, I'm just gonna have so much fun. He's like, not too much fun. And I was like, I just. I don't know, I just. It brought me back to my WeHo days in 2016 where I'd go out and I just see all these, like, gorgeous and gay men are so nice. Well, at least to me. I know there's like gay on gay, like, hate and stuff like that. But to me, all the gay men were so nice. And I was just like, God, I. And then that's how it was yesterday. We just had this like full on key dancing, but also like talking about everything from like, you know, Britney Spears to like, you know, what carbs we eat. And honestly, all these guys are ripped now and they are saying white rice is better than brown rice for you.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, really?
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes, because I hate brown rice.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't know there was a difference. Really. I thought it was just. They just like bleached the white rice or that's what I. I really.
Jimmy Wetzel
I don't know either.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know.
Jimmy Wetzel
But I know brown rice was always the healthy thing. Like in Showgirls, it was like brown rice and vegetables, like, that's what you would eat. Brown rice was always the healthy substitute. But they're like, no, they're like, white rice is better for you. And I was like, okay. So I. Or steamed as they call it. So that made me feel so Happy. Because they're all ripped. They're like, no, steamed rice is good for you. I was like, perfect. I'm gonna start eating it. But it really just brought me back to my days of just like. Yeah. Just. Just being surrounded by all. Just gay men. I love gay men of all types, obviously. But, like, there's something about the dancer community that I'm just like, I love you guys. I think it's awesome when they dance, like, especially for, like, pride. We're doing a lot of like. Like, freaky is very, like. You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
And it's very body gyrating.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. And they just.
Trisha Paytas
They get it. They get it. There's like a movement of the hips that a gay man is familiar with.
Jimmy Wetzel
That. That part. And you just. And then when you're watching the performance, you're like, oh, my God, this is everything.
Trisha Paytas
And then it's a sissy swag.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes. But then that's why saying. Then you cut. And it's just like, them talking literally about, like, labu Boo. Like, what had, like, this whole obsession. And I was like, I love this so much, and that's what I've missed and loved. And I don't even know how we got on that topic. Oh, Dancing with the Stars. And I was just like, how come there's just not more on Dancing with the Stars? You know what I mean? Because that's all my dance videos were always with William Jordy, which was, I guess, queer. We'll just use it because we don't know if they were, like, 100 gay, but. And I just loved it so much. Cedric is, like, my favorite person in the whole world. And I don't know. Anyways, shout out Cedric, who watches the podcast. He will be on tour all weekend, and then he comes home and watches the podcast on Tuesday. He's like. And he always will show me, like, watching the whole thing and eating his sushi. I was like, do you not get sick of me? He's like, no, I could listen to your voice all day long, and I love him for it. But, yeah, I don't think Dancing star is gonna be for me, because now Alex on it, but good for her. She's gonna crush it. She said she was a dancer back in the day, and I was like, honestly, she's gonna crush it. We just had Gabby Windy on the podcast, and she said she lost Charlie DeMille. Oh, it's good. Well, there's a little spoiler. You can't see it on the camera, but there's a little spoiler that she gave me a little gift. Yeah. Love her so much. But she came in second on Dancing with the Stars and lost to Charlie d' Amelio. And I was like, oh, man. It's like when you go against, like, a social media person, it's like Charlie's obviously a great dancer show on Broadway, but it's also not fair because, like, they have so many followers. Like, she had 100 million followers. Like, how are you gonna compete with that? So I feel that way with Alex Earl too. Although she is going up against Robert Irwin, who is also very loved. So gonna be a stacked season.
Trisha Paytas
How did JoJo do on dancing with the Stars? Did she win?
Jimmy Wetzel
Did she win? I think she might have won.
Trisha Paytas
I feel like that is.
Jimmy Wetzel
Do you have a JoJo Hot Topic? I love a lot of Hot Topic.
Trisha Paytas
I do have a JoJo Hot Topic. Yes, I do. Yes.
Jimmy Wetzel
Let's see if she won. I think she did win.
Trisha Paytas
Siwa. Dancing with the Stars. Let's see.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, she kind of crushes it on reality shows.
Trisha Paytas
Making the. She was the first same sex couple.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
She came second to who?
Jimmy Wetzel
Who did she lose to?
Trisha Paytas
Let's see.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's what I'm always curious, like, who.
Trisha Paytas
They of the stars 30 spoiler alert.
Jimmy Wetzel
From 10 years ago.
Trisha Paytas
The winner was Iman Shumpert.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. I don't know who Iman Shepard is.
Trisha Paytas
But I don't know either. But he's wearing a very Not Loveline coated jacket.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. Leopard jacket.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
Very cute.
Jimmy Wetzel
Maybe. Come on. Not love. I love when someone wears leopard. I'm like, you want to. Come on.
Trisha Paytas
They should make leopard Labubu. That should be their next set. Animal print. I would die.
Jimmy Wetzel
You love animal print.
Trisha Paytas
I think they're cute. Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. I love that a lot of people don't like leopard. When I first met Moses, he didn't like leopard. He was like, I don't love leopard. But I. That's why I love Not Loveline, because I can, like, release all my leopard.
Trisha Paytas
Leopard. On leopard. On leopard. It's crazy.
Jimmy Wetzel
I keep buying more leopard.
Trisha Paytas
Visually so crazy. But I love it.
Jimmy Wetzel
The leopard's never matching. It's just also the background is like, doesn't really match leopard vibes.
Trisha Paytas
I fully call it leopard and it's like tiger too.
Jimmy Wetzel
I'm like, close Animal prince.
Trisha Paytas
Close enough.
Jimmy Wetzel
You know what I mean? What's the JoJo news?
Trisha Paytas
JoJo hot topic. So her and Chris Hughes continue to be in love.
Jimmy Wetzel
Kissing.
Trisha Paytas
Performing. Performing love. And kissing.
Jimmy Wetzel
Performing love. What does that mean, performing love?
Trisha Paytas
If they are pretending to date for clout. Because you know Jojo, she's very Trishian in that way. She's very of your playbook. I feel like. I definitely don't doubt that like her sexuality fluidity is real and I think she definitely has a close friendship with this guy. But you know, for a while I thought like Mimi, you know, Jojo, she likes to. She likes to get people talking. Like it could be very much. She just kind of, you know, stirring the pot a little bit.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But yeah, there's a paparazzi photo of them kissing which is.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, it looks pretty steamy.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Did you see them at the airport?
Jimmy Wetzel
They were also kissing there.
Trisha Paytas
Really?
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. They airport.
Oscar
The airport is more than just like.
Trisha Paytas
They're just.
Oscar
They look like a couple in love. In love. Like you know, the puppy love at the beginning. Yeah, they're just like any angle and any corner is just hugging and.
Trisha Paytas
And there's a post they both. They both posted photo dumps with each other in them. And it's giving very like soft, hard launch. Really hard launch of a couple. There's a picture of the two of them with their knees together. And it's like just their knees. And like he has his hand on like her inner thigh. I'm pretty sure it's his hand. And it's just like, oh my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's like too. I think it's real. I think that's.
Trisha Paytas
At this point. I think it's real too.
Jimmy Wetzel
I think it's real for one of them. I don't know which one. Like I maybe, maybe both. And I would love to see both. But I know when I've been in relationships it's always like one sided becomes is real for one and maybe not. Cause sometimes you enter these things too. And I know this for. From like again experience. Like sometimes you enter these in thinking like good publicity, people want to see this. You know what I mean? And then sometimes someone catches feelings. So I don't know. There's been other ones too where I've just been like, okay, for let's do a little romance, whatever. And then yeah, I get like catch. And then it feels real. Then you like don't know how to get out. So I more worry about Jojo being the young one in this situation who's.
Trisha Paytas
32, she's 22, which is.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's another thing Gabby had told me because I didn't know she knew him from whatever show he's on. Love island, something like that. I know that. Yeah, that's a little scary at that age. Because again, young girl, Jojo being so young and being so young and being, you know, she likes to be around older people, which necessarily isn't like so bad, but.
Trisha Paytas
And not implying anything like predatory. Yeah, it's just like, it's just. I don't understand, like, even my boyfriend and I were two years apart.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And like, he will reference things that I've not seen because he has two older sisters.
Jimmy Wetzel
So.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I can't imagine. But like, most of our stuff's in common. I just can't imagine, like, what you can really have in common after the, like, honeymoon phase kind of over.
Jimmy Wetzel
Because she's 21, right?
Trisha Paytas
22.
Jimmy Wetzel
22. So 22. We always talk about this, the frontal love developing at 25. But it's so true, especially for females. Like, that 18 to 25 really is just like such a, like a part. And obviously Jojo being around younger older people, this has always been my thing. Love you, JoJo. I always say this every podcast. I love her. But also being around older people from an early age, from like 13, having older friends, like, it's so easy to like, be caught up. Even if the person is. Even if the older person is not the manipulator. Right. If you're not purposely trying to manipulate. Your feelings are just so. What is the word? Like, I don't want to say delusional, but like, I know when I was like, younger, turbulent, when I was like 22 dating someone 52. I know it's a little bit bigger age gap. I just remember you feel so things so much differently and so much more intensely and they're like, not real.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like the feelings. And then the other person maybe doesn't take into consideration. They also think you're on the that same level of like, oh, we're just hooking up. Or we're just maybe with Chris, it's like, oh, we're just a showmance or whatever, but you're not quite there. Like, the 52 year old that I was dating was like, oh, we're just like hooking up. But in my mind, he was like flying me out to Toronto and New York and I was like, oh, we're gonna. We're in a relationship. We're getting married. You know, So I just.
Trisha Paytas
And to him it's like, it's just like a cute little thing. Oh, yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
When I like confronted him about like cheating, he's like, what are you talking about? Like, we were just hooking up. I was like, but you were flying me places. And you Were saying, I love you, and, like, you know, like, it just. It's a different. It's a warp sense when you're that age, so.
Trisha Paytas
Plus, her kind of entire life has been in front of a camera. So for him, I imagine he only started getting into show business, if you can call it that. I GUESS it's reality TV.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Probably in his, like, late mid to late 20s. Like, he probably spent most of his life offline, I guess. I don't know his full history. But, like, for Jojo, like a showman, how's that any different than real life? Everything she does is filmed, everything she's documented.
Jimmy Wetzel
So that's what's so crazy about Jojo's life, is, like, not only does she do reality tv where you could shut. Like, a lot of people do shut off when they're not filming, but she's, like, vlogging too, and has a podcast. She's, like, never off.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
And I do think she does play a character. I think she probably would admit she's, like, a little bit of a troll. So it's like that fine line of, like, what is a troll? Who am I? You know, Who's Jojo? Who's Jojo Siwa, the character. It's like such a. Such a. Oh, I don't know. I see. I know. I do. I think that's why I relate to her so much. Like, I. Not to, like, do my own. But I do see, like, a young me, you know, when I look at her as a.
Trisha Paytas
Absolutely, you know, I see it. Oscar's said it before, too.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
It's very. It's a very similar trajectory. Definitely, like, not, you know, the same footsteps.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But it's, you know, it's the same.
Jimmy Wetzel
Sort of troll vibes. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
The attention and knowing how to get the attention, and it's. It's love or hate. And some people do love her. And then some. Some people, like, have a lot to say about her. And I think in her mind, it's like, all attention, like, good attention, which, like, is how I thought too. And it is to some degree, I always think, like, if I didn't do my trolling, you know, it doesn't get you to, like, where you want to be, I guess. I don't know. It's so. It's so hard.
Oscar
But also, this is the first man she's with, so it's like, yeah, there's so many different kinds of men and kind of like, she doesn't even know yet. So she has a lot of strong emotions. Just from feeling what it's like to be with a man for the first time. But then what. What it's like, maybe this is not.
Jimmy Wetzel
You know, being analyzed too.
Oscar
So I think she's just going through a lot of new and exciting and. And I don't know. I mean, to me they look. They almost look like two guys falling in love. Like there's something like she has actually to me, the first time I see her more masculine. When I thought with a man I would see her more feminine, but to me she feels more masculine. So it's really interesting. So maybe she's still this covering some of that, you know, as far as like, you know what I mean? Like, you experienced that, like, you know, like, even if you're with a man, you could be as a man with a man in a woman's body.
Jimmy Wetzel
Feminine. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
So that was interesting for me to see. But I don't know. I mean, they. Having fun. Like fall. Fall in love for Big. You know, it's like a big.
Jimmy Wetzel
But she's been so in love. And then like all her breakups are so awful.
Trisha Paytas
I also. Everybody just don't think it's like the other side.
Oscar
It seems not to her.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I just don't know if it's like the best foundation for a relationship to start. Like.
Jimmy Wetzel
No.
Trisha Paytas
Like, kind of was cheating.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Relationship with someone else.
Trisha Paytas
And I. I totally understand, like, especially if like, you're bi. Your pan. You're like fluid sexually. Because my boyfriend is bisexual and he dated a girl for like five years or so before he came out and like, dated a different guy. And then he started dating me and he. When we like a year into dating, he said to me, he's like, hey, like, I don't really know what I'm like, truly interested in. I don't want to string you along and like, potentially hurt you because I don't know what I'm really into, if I want to be with a guy or be with a guy girl. And then like two or three days later, he, like, was like, wait a minute. Like, no. Like, I love what we have. I. I only romantically am interested in men, but he's still by does.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Attractive. And like, I think it's important to find out that information about yourself and explore that. It just sucks that like, she had to do it on a TV show and like, it's not her choice. She can't control. She feels. It's just like, it's unfortunate that it. It happened so publicly. It's so analyzed. She's so young still. And she was also in a relationship going into this prior. So, like, I know. And she can't communicate with this person, be like, hey, I really want to explore this privately. Yeah, I want to, I want to stop dating you. But then I don't want to lose out on this person because it's, it's like. And I think if she was a little bit older, older, she would just kind of like, know that, like, and she just had a different upbringing that would like, kind of be common sense to do that. But, you know, she is, she is so young and her, her upbringing is so warped and different from other people. It sucks. So, like, on the one hand, like, I definitely feel like you cheated. It is a. It was foundation cheating. Even if it was like very early on in your relationship. It wasn't super serious even yet. It still is. But at the same time, I don't, I don't really like, think that this is like a, like a character defining moment for her, that she is a procedural cheater unless, like, more stuff ever comes out.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, I guess it's the perception people have is like her ex girlfriends all kind of like imply that. But yeah, I think in general, having the public relationships is like, not good for her right now. Like, unless it is for a show which is entertaining and it gets people to talk. But then it's just. Yeah, from one public relationship to another. Because that's the problem. Like you said, people go through this all the time, like sexuality questioning and stuff. But it's like privately done, so you don't have all this scrutiny and you're not hurting someone. And it does suck. Yeah, dating someone who's like bisexual or fluid or doesn't quite know yet does hurt. It does hurt someone, apparently at the end of the day, I mean, I've been on the receiving end of so many guys being like, I'm bisexual and like, actually I'm gay. And I'm like, oh, no. Like, you know what I mean? Because it like hurts so bad. But obviously doing it privately is like, so much easier than doing it publicly. Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's. I don't know. I feel like she just needs to take a break from love publicly. You know what I mean? Also privately, maybe for a little bit. Just find yourself. Girl 22 I always tell people, especially in the early 20s, I was so concerned with like, being in love and finding the guy. In my early 20s, I was so obsessed with him. I missed out on life. I like, didn't do Casting calls, auditions. I wouldn't go to jobs. I would just like sit home like waiting for this person and like just live your life at early 20s, you know?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I feel like she must not know. Like, maybe she doesn't feel like her relationships can be private because she shares so much.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, I, Yeah, I can relate to that too. Sometimes you think like, this is my job. This is. And also you'd like to do it like you like sharing your love. So I, I do feel her on that way.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's just the consecutive.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Back to back always will get people to judge you. And it's like if you really don't want people judging your life.
Trisha Paytas
Life.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's kind of. Even if you want to share and blast. It's easier to keep it offline. Sometimes it's like, you know, even our kids and stuff like that. It's like sometimes I just like to keep things offline because whatever you post will open up for judgment. You know what I mean? It's like. And sometimes it's hard because you just like, I just want to share everything.
Oscar
But then I don't think it's an option for her because this time it's not only a new relationship. It's like when your whole identity is being a lesbian.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
And you're going to explore something completely new.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
She never gave it even a day of like, well, let me do some processing on my own and then bring the news to the world of what I think about it. Everything was in front of our eyes.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
She didn't really have a choice though. She was in the big brother house.
Oscar
No, but she has choices. Her action, she doesn't have a choice what she feels, but she has a choice in her actions. And her actions were ones of like, I'm going to show you exactly my process of like connecting to this man, being attracted to this man, and then forming a relationship with this man.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Oscar
But. So I don't think she even consider. Is not sharing a second of her life. I don't think that's even.
Jimmy Wetzel
I get it. Sometimes you want to share everything, but sometimes holding a little back is good.
Oscar
But this wasn't a huge thing for her life as far as that's a huge thing.
Trisha Paytas
And I think a lot of people are going to find comfort in. In the vulnerability. Like there are good parts to her doing this very publicly. A lot of people, maybe they are on the opposite end. Maybe they are in hetero romantic relationships and they are like, wait, like you can always think you're one Thing and you're not. You are actually bi. You're queer. You're still only like my boyfriend only interested in dating gay guys. But like still has attraction. Like people see a hot woman be like, that's a hot woman.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Well I'm like, she's so slay. Like yes, the heels.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, yeah, it's totally different.
Trisha Paytas
Like my idea of like a hot woman is just like. I don't know, like the diva energy.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right.
Trisha Paytas
Like any woman could be hot to me if she feels that way about herself.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, I love that. Okay. Diva energy, that's everything. No, and I keep referencing the interview, but again, Gabby Wendy is coming up on Thursday and she like gives such a good insight to this because she also didn't know like she talks about how the first time she was like maybe I'm. It was like after the Bachelor, after the self work. So I was like, where did that transition? And it's so interesting how. How like. Yeah. And she kind of did the self reflection. She was at her parents house. So anyways, I don't want to spoil it, but it is interesting all that stuff. And yeah, doing it so publicly is like. But I get it. I totally get Jojo in that sense. Not everyone gets it because it is so niche. But I am someone too who wants to share every little thing. And in the long run can help. You know, sometimes you look back and you're like man, I really was like a mess. But it's like well, I guess in the long run you show a journey. So as long as she protects herself, you know what I mean? Her heart and others. Yeah. Cuz it's you know, all the situation. Especially love. I guess I wasn't in like public relationships like her for in my early 20s. But something public can be like so hurtful too. But we love you, Jojo. Should we go to the final hot tub? I was thinking Tana and Brooke, what did you have for you?
Oscar
Oh, but one small one.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, okay.
Oscar
Because you're little.
Jimmy Wetzel
We also have extended to. Huh.
Oscar
Because what do you look like today? Your hair. You told me that the inspiration for the. Your hair.
Jimmy Wetzel
Britney Spears.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I had that too. Britney Spears was on a plane. Private jet. And she lit a cigarette.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
She also says it was the first time she ever tried vodka on that flight as well.
Jimmy Wetzel
Love that diva energy. She.
Trisha Paytas
That I love Britney.
Jimmy Wetzel
I cut to her with like a Tito's or something like that. A buzz ball. Didn't she have a buzz ball in her hand?
Trisha Paytas
It will never end well.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes, I Love her for that. Because also very me. Very like, this is my first time I'm in slay, girls.
Oscar
It's funny. But also, like, just to tie into your look, because this is your look for the day.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah. Everyone was like, oh, what's the point of a private. I kind of understand that, too. It's like, what? I love how she also, like, blamed someone else for lighting the cigarette. Being like, well, they lit it and put it in my hands. I thought it was okay. Girl. Love it. No accountability.
Trisha Paytas
Queen also described, described because they contacted the authorities, because you can't do that. It's illegal to light a cigarette on a plane.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right.
Trisha Paytas
They did not know. That's why they had the little sign that has a no smoking on it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
She described the calling the authorities was kind of much.
Jimmy Wetzel
Kind of much. I love that so much. She also thought they were there for her. She's like, wow, what a. What a warm greeting. I love that, too. That would be me for sure. Be like, this is nice. I love her caption explaining all of it. And then she's like, oh, okay, this is. Wasn't for that.
Oscar
But I was still trying to understand the thing. She was like me yesterday. It's actually incredibly funny. Some planes I've been on, you can't smoke mostly, but this one was different because the drink holders were on the outside of the seat. So I'm still trying to understand how does that tell you you can smoke on this airplane?
Jimmy Wetzel
Pretty logic. Honestly, whatever she says, I'm going with.
Oscar
When I read it, I thought she was going to say, but there was an ashtray or something.
Jimmy Wetzel
Maybe that was the vibe she was getting. Are there ashtrays out on planes? No, they used to be. Yeah, those little silver ones that you put.
Oscar
They totally used to be.
Trisha Paytas
There's a smoking cabin in the plane she was on.
Jimmy Wetzel
In her defense, I know we don't know what plane she flew. I love it. She's in Mexico living her best life.
Oscar
She was like, I swear, so smart.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love her doing that. I love everything about her. She can do no wrong, wrong. How dare the authorities even question Britney. She want to light up a cigarette. Check the plane like you said. Check it. Maybe there was an ashtray. Maybe there was something that she knew that others didn't. I love her positive spin. I love that she, like, also broadcasted it. She's like, let me just talk about this.
Trisha Paytas
I love it very much. Treats her Instagram with like 80 million followers as like, her private Facebook.
Jimmy Wetzel
Love it. I love it so much. I missed it because she's been kind of.
Trisha Paytas
She loves an emoji. I just. I love the way she posts.
Jimmy Wetzel
Me too. I miss those captions so much. She was really doing it in 20, 2020. And I really missed that. Like a little highlight of it, but I love that. Well, we have more extended hot topics on patreon.com Jess Trish. But before we go, this one was interesting because we, you know, we are girls. Tana and Brooke, we love them. They also do well in a thumbnail. So this is our little. Yeah, we. But they're. They're so funny. So they're on. They're. They just finished their Europe tour. I think they're going to Australia in July. Love them both. Last week, we talked about Brooke and Tana showing the dort skate.
Trisha Paytas
I did watch Dorks Gate.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you watch it? You saw it? You found it?
Trisha Paytas
I knew it was gonna be a hot topic, so I was like, okay, I gotta.
Jimmy Wetzel
The dort skate. But it was. I will say I. Because, you know, I don't want to like, flip flop. But I will say it didn't make Tana look great. The door at skate. Like, obviously a lot of people were team Brooke. This. This week we have a new. The cancel podcast is so interesting because they are. It's almost like watching a relationship podcast where it's very much. Much like bickering, I guess I don't have friends, so I don't know. But it reminds me of like a relationship or something where you air out.
Oscar
Because you see two girlfriends that one of them now has a boyfriend.
Jimmy Wetzel
They both have boyfriends.
Trisha Paytas
Oh.
Oscar
But, you know, but.
Trisha Paytas
But it's like when this felt was filmed, the. Is it a new documentary that they put out? Like a new.
Jimmy Wetzel
No, it's a new cancel podcast that came out this week.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, okay.
Jimmy Wetzel
Where they're talking about how they're in the clip I saw, which kind of, like, resonated with me, is they're in Europe and they're on tour. Right. Brooke is upset that Tana doesn't. You haven't seen any of this.
Trisha Paytas
No, I haven't.
Jimmy Wetzel
Brooke is upset that Tana doesn't want to go out in sightsee with them in Europe. So it's like Paige friends. Brooke. Bb yeah. She's like, you don't want to come out. And it got pretty heated. And I always defer to the comments on TikTok because I never know where people are. George Gate. I was like, oh, this doesn't look good for Tana. Obviously, everyone in the Comments was like defending Brooke. They're like this. It looks so bad because the way Tina was about talking, talking. But this one, people were defending Tana because basically Brooke was like, upset that Tana didn't want to come out. And Tana's like, well, you know, I'm watching the Patreon. And then Brooke will be like, okay, but Patreon's like an hour. She goes, well, I have three Patreons to watch. Or then she flips. Then she went and said, you know, I've already seen everything in Paris. I've seen the Louvre. Or she'll flip and say, I have to reserve my energy for the meet and greets and all this stuff like that because she doesn't want to be out all day, whatever. And then, then she. Her final boss. Is that how people say it now? The final boss?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I love when people say that. It's like the final boss. Her final boss of the argument was, you know, I just don't like to be outside because Brooke was like, you're just in a mall all day. She goes, yeah, but that's my idea of fun. Like, I like to be inside. Like, I don't want to be outside while Brooke and all the friends were like, doing all the touristy stuff, going on hikes and stuff. And Tana's like, I just don't like to be outside. So then people flip as they do. That's the thing. It's so. It's so funny. Like, one week it's like Team Brooke, and the next week it's Team Tana. When in reality they have a podcast together. It should be like. But I guess that's what they put out. I guess that's what also is like, their engagement of it all is just like the back and forth of it. But I thought it was interesting because I relate to Tana in this sense where I'm just like, oh, my. We go on tour, we fly in the day of. And I think they're on a plane over there. I think they're not doing a bus. So I think they're flying into everything. My dancers will go out, everyone will go out. They'll go out at lunchtime because we land at like noon. They'll go find a place to eat lunch and then they go out after the show, like at 10 o' clock. Both times I'm like, in bed. Like, I will sleep at noon till about 2 o' clock. I have to get ready. And then, same thing with after the show. I, like, leave instantly after the show. And then I'm just like, in bed. And my old tour in 2019, Heartbreak Tour, I was going out all the time. I was doing like Cheesecake Factory and Fireballs and stuff like that. So I just thought it was interesting that so many people were actually Team Tana on this because so many. A lot of people were like, okay, you know, you're in a new city. Like, I guess Brooks argument was like, you're in Europe. Like, why don't you want to see Europe?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
But I'm gonna tell you, like, even when I'm on vacation, I just. We were to the Maldives for what, like a week, and I just. I loved. We were in the bed and just watching Encanto the whole time. And it was like, that's my idea is like, okay, the ocean's there. We got. Okay, we had dinner. We did eat. Go out and eat dinner once in a while. But I just love just being in a place and then also just being inside. You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
I. When I travel, I like very low key vibe. I would butt heads with my family on this because when we went on a family trip to. Trip to Italy and my dad wanted to do like all the stops, this, this, this, and I'm like, I would like to just like kind of roam and just explore and like, see what. What's around to me. Yeah. Almost like feel like I'm a local. Like, I want to, like, I don't want to go to the most popular shop. I want to go to the one that's closest to our Airbnb or something like that because it just, it's. It's a more low key experience. I kind of get anxiety. We did the Trevi Fountain and it was so crowded and I, like, I started having an anxiety attack because it was so many people and like, their hair was touching my arm because it was so crowded. Sensory overload. It was crazy. So I get that. But I also, I understand, like, Brook's pov. Like, we're like young, we're friends, we're co hosts. We're on this adventure together. I want to go and explore these places, these really cool places, and make memories with each other. So I totally get. I really get both sides of it. I think I probably Mortana's side. And I'm not just saying that because she kind of pays me as well.
Jimmy Wetzel
Right.
Trisha Paytas
Full disclosure, I do send an invoice, which is cute.
Jimmy Wetzel
Your invoice is cute, by the way. That's a side note.
Trisha Paytas
But you have a little cartoon in your. Yeah. I literally only send you invoices.
Jimmy Wetzel
Really?
Trisha Paytas
It's so professional. Well, I used to. When I did art commissions, I used to use PayPal, but they take such a percentage.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah. We had to switch it up, too.
Trisha Paytas
So now I get paid directly from you. But so.
Oscar
But also, I'm 100% on Tana's side in this case, because when you have shows, it's a responsibility. We just talked about Justin Bieber showing up to a show, right?
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Oscar
If you have a responsibility and you're not even back home, you're in a foreign land, and you could easily be late, sprain your ankle, get sick, do, like, something that will jeopardize the show that people are paying to come and watch. If I. If I was, I would, like, reserve my energy, prepare for this show, rest, eat well. Like, people usually have, like, a whole ritual before a show. Like, there's certain foods they eat, there's certain bat. They take the certain. Like, there's. They have a ritual, so they show up to the show 100% prepared and all that. She has a boyfriend. You have intimacy, you're in Paris. It's romantic.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, she did go to the Eiffel Tower with Mokoa. She was saying that, like, they went and did their stuff.
Trisha Paytas
Certain things.
Oscar
But for me, specifically in this situation, what bothered me was Tana was very open, very specific. She's like, I know my battery. I don't want to run out of battery before the show. I know what I can do. I know what I cannot do. I have experience in this. And there were other things that happened that she didn't specify. She was like, I don't want to talk about it. But it was something that was.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, something bad she was dealing with internally.
Oscar
Ireland, whatever. So. So obviously she didn't want to go there. And. But every time she would say something, the response will be like, it was kind of like the key and picture feel.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Oscar
Like, okay, awkward. You know, like, every time she would say something, Brooke would say something and kind of be like, no, but no, I'm. I'm like, I'm telling you. Like, I would not. He's like, okay, but it was your choice.
Jimmy Wetzel
Agree to disagree. She's like, no, there's no disagree.
Trisha Paytas
The antithesis of the issue in George Gate, where she was like. It seemed like she was almost like, going out, burnt out, and was then running late. It's now she's like, I need to. To be very diligent. I have podcasts that I'm running. I. That part I have a show that we're doing. I need to, like, mentally prepare. I have to mentally prepare for this podcast. I woke up an hour earlier to sit in silence.
Jimmy Wetzel
You have to. And especially on tour, I sit in silence all the time. There's a thing I do called quiet hour, because it's like, okay, we. Okay, full thing. So, like, if we fly in the day of the show, we get there at 11. We have to get to our hotel at noon. Then you have to, like, eat food, whatever. Then I take a nap. Then it's like 2 o' clock, I start glamming. 2 to 4:30, I glam. 4:30 is a super VIPs. So then those are the people who pay extra, extra money to get more time with you. Then you do the 5 to 6pm VIPs, which is a little more like, line through. But you still got to give all your energy because they also paid. And then you do the Q and a at 6:15. So then between 6:15 to 7:15, I have like, quiet hour, where literally you've been on the shows. I have everyone in the room just, like, stay quiet, like, either on their phones or whatever, or I go into a different room. Because you really need. Need that, like, reset. But you're right, because George Gate was like, you know, there's people paying to meet you, and you can't show up on time. So now Tana is like, well, this is my. You know, this is. This is where I'm at. This where my battery is. So it was interesting. I do. I know what you're saying, too. It's like. And maybe I think Brooks delivery, too, sometimes gets interpreted the wrong way. Sometimes I think people. She has a different delivery than, like, Tana. So it does come across a little bit more like a little judgy or whatever, because maybe she was trying to be, like, funny to the back and forth. You never know with these girls. Even George Gates, I'm like, was this all scripted just for a little drama? You know what I mean? Because it was so crazy. Tana's reaction was so crazy. And then seeing the flip side of this, now you said, like, the antithesis is that the word used. Love that word. I never heard it, but I love it. And I kind of heard it, but I didn't know what it meant. But now I infer, because context clues.
Trisha Paytas
But every podcast will be, yeah, antithesis.
Jimmy Wetzel
I like that. Okay, so, yeah, then for. So I was. I too, was 100%, but I was 100% on Brookside with Doris Gates. So So I. It's not the bias of not Loveline with it all, but yeah, it's. Touring is such a different thing.
Oscar
Especially in your meet and greet. It's a performance like meet and greet.
Trisha Paytas
Oh yeah.
Oscar
Takes more energy than actually performing.
Jimmy Wetzel
I put more energy into meet greets for sure.
Oscar
Because like you have this. You have the people that you sit one on one with.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
And Trisha gives like all of her attention and all of her. And you have to. You're in conversations and you have to be present. And then you stand there physically stand spending with like 75 to 90 people that are coming through and you talk to each person, give them the 100 that you can give them. And then. And aside of that, I just know how it is. Everyone wants to talk to Trisha in that case, Tana, or everyone wants to talk to you people backstage and the people that, that work on the show and the people that promote the show. And to get that one hour of just a little bit of quiet before you go on stage, it's like. But it's a huge thing to get that little space, you know, like they said too.
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, you know, like Tina said, it is like people have different batteries. Some people can go out all day and still perform at night and be so, like hyped. And so, yeah, it's different things for sure. Me, I'm someone who needs to like sleep the most. So I always tell people I'm like, and you're pregnant. Well, yeah, it's different. But even if I'm not pregnant, I do love a little sleep before. I love a little nap. So it is a different. It is definitely. It was definitely interesting to see all that play out. It's so funny. It's so funny how like willing open the art are too.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
Because it's like, I guess that's why I like doing other people's Hot Topics because it's like not your stuff. Because you do air it all out. I always think about this, even with the dortskate of it all, which I did get some jorts and maybe I'll wear them next week. But it's interesting because it's like on one hand, do you think like. Because when I saw the dortskate, I remember thinking like, why did Tana air all that? Like, that's crazy. But in one end, you. I think you're completely right. I used to think that all the time when I used to do like interviews where I'm just like, no, I'm definitely right on this. Like air it out. But then I'm like, ooh, no, maybe you're not. You know what I mean? So. So the fact that they both agreed to put that out, I was like, that's so crazy because to me, it was like, so clearly like, oh, my gosh, Brooke was in the wrong. But, you know, some people. Some people agree with her.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
She also has a lot of energy. You know, they both have different. Different things, different priorities. But I guess that's why they're popular and they're on tour and everyone loves them. And I guess that's the whole point of the tour is the canceled podcast is you never know what you're gonna get. All the drama of it all.
Trisha Paytas
It makes it interesting, you know, it makes it interesting, you know? Yes, man each other the whole time. They both have very different points of views on. On things. It's.
Jimmy Wetzel
They're very passionate. They very talk about it too. It is. It is.
Oscar
There's enough podcasts of people that agree with each other on everything.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, that is true. Yeah. You gotta have difference of opinions. And we love to see it. We love to watch. That's why. That's what's amazing is when you can have a podcast just talking about your life. I always think that I was like, oh, my God, like, they make it interesting. They're not the Views podcast over there. The bull. It's just like, you guys. I have to admit, I did listen to an episode I haven't listened to a long time. I dance rehearsals yesterday. Once again, I listened to Stephanie C. Rotten Mango. But once that's over, it gives me back to Views. So I'm not doing this by choice. It liter literally looped me in on their newest one, and I hate it. And I do. I did listen to it for like 30 minutes, but they have now they have like 7 co hosts. Like 7 of people you don't know.
Trisha Paytas
I don't like that.
Jimmy Wetzel
It's like.
Trisha Paytas
It's too much.
Jimmy Wetzel
Too much. It was like David's friends from high school's girlfriend was on there just talking about who knows what. Just this stuff that happened in Chicago and all these different names. Jonathan, all these people. I'm like, what the hell are they talking about? It was 30 minutes of just them telling a story about have no idea what it was. So at least the canceled girls to their crap it. I am invested in this drama. You know what I mean? They're good at keeping us in that Views podcast. I think someone paid them a lot of money and they probably regret it cuz it's like 30 minutes of nothing.
Trisha Paytas
It's not even like a good name. Like, it's very hard to look up. Like.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
David Dobrik Views like, are you Joy B. Social Blade?
Jimmy Wetzel
Like, what. What is this? I just. But it was so random.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
What?
Trisha Paytas
I saw. Speaking of the view, I saw a clip of Rosie O' Donnell from, like, the 2000s. She's like, she's emceeing like an award show or something. And she's just like, everybody can rest easy. Diddy went home.
Jimmy Wetzel
I know. No, they knew her and Wendy.
Trisha Paytas
Wendy clocked it.
Jimmy Wetzel
Wendy always clocked it. She always had issues with Diddy. But even actually, now that I think about it, Rosie, I think, was talking about it on TikTok, how she said she used to be neighbors with Diddy in, like, the Hamptons or something. And she went for like a minute and they were like, like, no kids or something. So she, like, didn't go. But she's like, there was some weird happening, so she kind of knew it.
Oscar
Said she went and left.
Jimmy Wetzel
Something like. Yeah, but they were like, neighbors. And then the next day, Diddy wanted to take everyone to a movie or something or rented out a movie theater for them. It was something so weird, so scary. The. The girlies knew back then. Yeah, yikes on all that. But anyways, we honestly.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Jimmy Wetzel
I didn't know.
Oscar
First of all, people love long episodes, so that's. I always try to put for the longer ones.
Jimmy Wetzel
That's crazy. Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
I started early, so I'm cool with that.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was like, we just had a whole yap session. I didn't know. I love. I love that you said. I. I didn't know you were such a yapper. I loved it. I didn't know how it was gonna go because we talk at parties and stuff like that. But I, you know, you're always kind of just chill and cool.
Trisha Paytas
But thank you for having me and thank you, everybody, for always being so kind on the podcast in the comments. It means a lot to me to read those comments because, you know, it's not like a labor intensive job, but it is very uninterrupted, like eight or nine hours of working on everything. So it's cool to, like. I mean, I. I've always said I'm like, Trisha could literally just like, cut the check and, like, never talk to me. So, like, the fact that, like, not only do I get, like, the positive affirmations from the comments, I get it on the show. I have, like, a personal relationship with you guys now. Like, it's very cool. I feel very much like a part of the team and it's very fulfilling for me creatively and career wise.
Jimmy Wetzel
So that makes me so happy because you are so talented. I don't think I could say it enough like, you are so talented.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you very much.
Jimmy Wetzel
You add so much. Everyone says it. You add so much to the show and we love you so much. And I'm so happy you were here. This was so fun because you've been on as a guest, I guess, for those 30 minute hot topics, but this was so good.
Trisha Paytas
I was nervous because I was just like, I don't have a laugh track, so.
Jimmy Wetzel
No, you are the laugh track. You are so good. The energy is just impeccable. It was amazing. It was so fun.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you so much.
Jimmy Wetzel
Should we try extended now or should we. We wait?
Trisha Paytas
I'm fine with doing it if you want to.
Jimmy Wetzel
Yeah, let's do extended.
Oscar
Okay.
Jimmy Wetzel
Okay. All right. Cutting.
Oscar
You gotta say goodbye.
Jimmy Wetzel
Well, you know, robot move over there. So I was like, why are you deciding? Okay. All right, so we'll do an extended. This is great. We'll do an extended podcast over@patreon.com just trish, check it out. We love you. Check out Jimmy Wetzel everywhere. Become a Wetzel pretzel. I just want to call it a Weties.
Trisha Paytas
That's what they're called.
Jimmy Wetzel
I was like, what is it?
Trisha Paytas
I finally had a Wetzel pretzel.
Jimmy Wetzel
And was it good?
Trisha Paytas
It was so, so good.
Jimmy Wetzel
The best.
Trisha Paytas
An. Sorry, not interested anymore.
Jimmy Wetzel
Did you get the little bag with little nuggets or did you get the full Pretzel nuggets?
Trisha Paytas
They butter them. Oh, my God. It gave me heartburn, but I for it anyway.
Jimmy Wetzel
Just get some Tums. Get some Nexium. I'm on Prilosec every day. Every day. Doesn't work. But do you try Nexium Heart for heartburn?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Jimmy Wetzel
I'm not a doctor. Consult your doctor. But I do consult Repulse Tik Tok.
Oscar
Especially if you're pregnant.
Jimmy Wetzel
Oh, yeah. All right. But the next seems good. And you. Anyways. All right, bye, guys. Where do we go?
Podcast Summary: Just Trish – Episode "Tana VS Brooke! + Justin Bieber Kisses SZA On Stage!?"
Release Date: May 27, 2025
Hosts: Trisha Paytas & Jimmy Wetzel (Guest Co-Host)
In this episode, Trisha Paytas welcomes guest co-host Jimmy Wetzel, stepping in for Oscar Gracey who is busy with the AMAs.
Trisha Paytas [02:24]: "Hello, everybody. Yeah... our co host of the day, filling in for Oscar, who is just busy at the AMAs, is our very own Just Trish editor slash really fourth co host at this point, Jimmy."
Trisha and Jimmy discuss the ongoing "Eras of Trish" tour, highlighting special events in Missouri and Nashville, including exclusive merchandise and Pride-themed items.
Jimmy Wetzel [08:15]: "Eras of Trish tour continues this weekend. I'm coming to Missouri... Nashville, Tennessee at the Ryman, where we're gonna have exclusive Ryman T-shirts..."
The hosts delve into the podcast's editing process, praising Jimmy's skills and the viral nature of fan edits on platforms like TikTok.
Jimmy Wetzel [02:27]: "Everything is about your editing and I don't watch them back... The editing makes the whole show."
Trisha shares insights into her meticulous editing workflow, ensuring seamless transitions between multiple camera angles and audio tracks.
Trisha Paytas [04:34]: "I have, like, the timeline with the audio, and I, like, layer the video on top of it... ensuring a smooth flow."
Trisha announces her active presence on Twitch, planning to stream popular games like Mario Kart following the release of the Nintendo Switch 2.
Trisha Paytas [09:12]: "I do have a preorder and I will be streaming plenty of games. Play Mario Kart with me."
Jimmy adds excitement about upcoming streams and the shared passion for gaming between him and Trisha.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the recent on-stage incident where Justin Bieber kissed SZA during a performance. The hosts analyze audience reactions, speculate on Bieber's state during the performance, and discuss the impact on both celebrities' public images.
Jimmy Wetzel [79:02]: "He was holding the mic... just single and his eyes were closed... He was having a great time."
Trisha Paytas [80:32]: "I didn't think any... I thought if it's comfortable with it, like, it's fine."
They consider whether the incident was planned or an accidental lapse, ultimately suggesting it was an unintentional consequence of Bieber's enjoyment.
Oscar [84:18]: "She was just trying to make sure he's okay and gets to his point."
Trisha opens up about her past battles with anxiety, OCD, and depression, emphasizing the importance of therapy and support systems in her recovery journey.
Trisha Paytas [45:38]: "I've had anxiety, OCD, struggle with depression for a long time... pills."
The conversation highlights the role of personal relationships and coping mechanisms in overcoming mental health challenges.
Jimmy Wetzel [44:03]: "Like, just surviving in this world. Like a day to day day is a struggle."
The hosts express disappointment with the live-action adaptation of "Lilo & Stitch," criticizing the removal of queer elements and the departure from the original's heartfelt narrative.
Trisha Paytas [54:13]: "It's like indigenous native Hawaiians giving up their children to the government. It's a crazy thing to put in a movie."
They argue that the remake fails to capture the essence of the animated original, missing critical cultural and emotional components.
A discussion ensues about the importance of authentic representation, advocating for LGBTQ+ actors to be cast in roles that reflect their identities.
Jimmy Wetzel [120:27]: "But it just feels like the gays are not even getting the calls."
The conversation underscores the need for diversity and genuine representation in media to ensure stories are told authentically.
The ongoing rivalry between Tana and Brooke is examined, particularly focusing on their Europe tour and recent "Dortskate" incidents. The hosts analyze fan reactions and the dynamics of their relationship both on and off the podcast.
Jimmy Wetzel [167:16]: "Brooke is upset that Tana doesn't want to go out and sightsee with them in Europe."
They highlight how differing priorities and energy levels contribute to public disputes, reflecting on their own experiences during tours.
Trisha shares her frustrations with thefts of her Pop Mart Labu figurines, discussing the challenges of securing collectible items and the disappointments of stolen packages.
Trisha Paytas [38:05]: "Everyone knows it's a Lubuuba, the Boo Boo size box with the Pop Mart logo all over it there."
She reveals successful refunds from customer service despite recurrent thefts, emphasizing the collectible's desirability.
The episode wraps up with Trisha thanking the audience and promoting extended content available on their Patreon page.
Trisha Paytas [180:56]: "Thank you for letting me talk about it. I hate that I feel like I kind of brought down the mood a little."
Jimmy encourages listeners to subscribe to extended episodes and support their creative endeavors.
Jimmy Wetzel [181:03]: "This is great. We'll do an extended podcast over@patreon.com just trish, check it out."
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This episode of Just Trish offers a blend of personal anecdotes, critical commentary on recent pop culture events, and insightful discussions on mental health and representation in media. Trisha and Jimmy provide an unfiltered look into their lives and thoughts, engaging listeners with their candid conversations and unique perspectives.