Taylor Swift SUES Trisha & David Dobrik FAKED His Body Transformation?

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Just Trish" Episode - "Taylor Swift SUES Trish & David Dobrik FAKED His Body Transformation?"

Release Date: January 21, 2025

In this dynamic and engaging episode of "Just Trish," host Trisha Paytas and co-host Oscar Gracey delve into a variety of hot topics, blending celebrity gossip, personal anecdotes, and insightful commentary. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key points, discussions, and notable quotes from the episode.

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1. Taylor Swift's Potential Lawsuit Against Trisha Paytas and David Dobrik

The episode kicks off with Trisha addressing rumors about Taylor Swift possibly suing her and David Dobrik. Contrary to widespread speculation, Taylor has not filed any legal action as of the podcast's release.

Trisha Paytas [01:54]: "Taylor Swift has not sued me yet."

Oscar Gracey adds his perspective, acknowledging Taylor's "fierce" legal team but expressing hope that the matter remains amicable.

Oscar Gracey [01:57]: "Her team is pretty fierce, I will say for sure."

Trisha clarifies her intentions behind naming her tour in homage to Taylor Swift's highly acclaimed Eras Tour, emphasizing her admiration and desire to create a similar experience.

Trisha Paytas [02:08]: "It's an homage to the greatest tour that ever was... why not try to be like that?"

2. Arrows of Trish Tour vs. Taylor Swift's Eras Tour

The hosts discuss Trisha's newly announced "Arrows of Trish" tour, drawing parallels to Taylor Swift's Eras Tour. They explore the creative process behind staging such an ambitious tour and the challenges of drawing comparisons to a megastar like Swift.

Trisha Paytas [03:28]: "Even the first episode, our second episode was dedicated to Taylor Swift."

Oscar shares his commitment to Taylor Swift fandom, which bolsters Trisha's homage efforts.

Oscar Gracey [02:28]: "I have put in the blood, sweat and tears for Taylor. Literally. Since the first era."

The conversation touches on the logistical aspects of the tour, including sold-out cities and the emotional significance of performing in Trisha's hometown, Cleveland.

3. TikTok Ban and Its Aftermath

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the temporary ban of TikTok and its subsequent reinstatement. The hosts express relief and surprise over TikTok's swift return, highlighting the platform's crucial role in their content creation and audience engagement.

Trisha Paytas [09:12]: "Similarly, I like those like drag artists that recreate the Eras tour, like Taylor's version of the Eras tour."

They discuss the potential impact of TikTok's absence on influencers and small businesses reliant on the platform for revenue and visibility.

Oscar Gracey [25:24]: "Why did they do that? I don't know. I literally thought like they would at least wait until the inauguration happened."

Trisha shares personal experiences of feeling isolated without TikTok, underscoring its importance in their daily routines and podcast production.

Trisha Paytas [25:35]: "I felt like the best. It is crazy how it was only gone for 14 hours."

4. Movie Reviews and Entertainment News

Trisha and Oscar delve into recent films and entertainment news, including reviews of "One of Them Days," "Last Show Girl," and discussions about upcoming projects involving celebrities like Ryan Reynolds and Demi Moore.

Oscar Gracey [16:19]: "I need everyone to see it. If I can influence anyone and do anything. See One of Them Days. I loved it."

They analyze the significance of body transformation controversies, particularly focusing on David Dobrik's alleged use of performance-enhancing drugs to achieve his physique.

Oscar Gracey [28:00]: "When I compare everything, I do believe that it's more likely than not that he is in fact on performance enhancing drugs."

5. Wendy Williams' Conservatorship and Mental Health Concerns

A poignant segment addresses Wendy Williams' reported conservatorship and mental health struggles. Trisha and Oscar discuss the complexities surrounding conservatorships, especially in the context of mental illness, and express empathy towards Wendy's situation.

Oscar Gracey [48:13]: "She's in a facility... She said, I'm definitely isolated to talk to those people that live here. That is not my cup of tea."

They explore the challenges of discerning the true state of someone under conservatorship and the broader implications for mental health advocacy.

Trisha Paytas [50:01]: "And now you're just going to get that sign back. Like that's the most wild thing."

6. Impact of Social Media Platforms Beyond TikTok

The hosts examine the rise of alternative social media platforms like Instagram Reels and their potential to replace TikTok for content creators. They discuss the disparities in content discovery and the financial implications for influencers.

Oscar Gracey [60:42]: "The discoverability on TikTok is so much better."

Trisha shares her experiences with Instagram Reels, noting their limited appeal compared to TikTok's dynamic nature.

Trisha Paytas [61:37]: "But it is so old. Like everything is like months old on reels. I'm like, I will say like reels."

7. Adoption Documentaries and Family Vlogging Ethics

A deep dive into adoption documentaries, particularly focusing on the Stauffer family's experience, highlights the ethical considerations of family vlogging. Trisha and Oscar critique the transparency and responsibility of vloggers when dealing with sensitive topics like adoption and child welfare.

Oscar Gracey [137:04]: "They are the story of being like, so American. Like they're both attractive, like cute kids."

They question the motives behind publicizing adoption struggles and the potential psychological impact on children involved.

Trisha Paytas [141:57]: "It's your child. And when the children have problems, like, why are you airing that out?"

8. Sexual Harassment Cases in Hollywood: Justin Baldoni vs. Blake Lively

One of the central discussions revolves around the fictional sexual harassment lawsuit between Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively. The hosts dissect the complexities of #MeToo in Hollywood, emphasizing the difficulties in substantiating such claims and the societal biases that influence public opinion.

Trisha Paytas [95:07]: "I think there's a larger like issue with conservatorships maybe because they're so hard to get out of."

Oscar advocates for believing victims, drawing parallels to historical cases where powerful individuals evaded accountability.

Oscar Gracey [97:08]: "I'd rather believe a woman who's claiming this versus not like if Blake ends up like if all these people come forward and was like nothing to happen and Justin wins the case."

They discuss the role of media bias and the need for concrete evidence in legal disputes, highlighting the ongoing challenges in achieving justice for harassment victims.

Oscar Gracey [102:17]: "It's the most outrageous numbers to get, like, the headlines. But I think what is really at stake is some kind of reputation..."

9. Morning and Nighttime Routines: A Look into Vlogging Culture

Trisha and Oscar reflect on the impact of highly polished vlogs, particularly morning and nighttime routines, on viewers' perceptions and mental health. They critique the unrealistic standards set by such content and share their own approaches to authenticity in vlogging.

Trisha Paytas [73:56]: "That's my. But can I tell you, I even added stuff in there. Like making coffee in the morning. Never did that."

Oscar suggests a more relatable and less scripted approach to daily routines to connect better with the audience.

Oscar Gracey [70:34]: "He needs to be aware of himself. He has to. Like even seeing yourself in 3D and video is different."

10. Concluding Remarks and Future Plans

As the episode wraps up, Trisha and Oscar tease upcoming content, including special guests and new projects. They emphasize the importance of community support and invite listeners to engage through Patreon for exclusive content.

Trisha Paytas [155:27]: "Go to Patreon if you want to see more of this... Patreon.com/justtrish. We love you guys and we'll see you in the new year."

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Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Paytas [01:54]: "Taylor Swift has not sued me yet."
• Oscar Gracey [16:19]: "See One of Them Days. I loved it."
• Trisha Paytas [25:35]: "I felt like the best. It is crazy how it was only gone for 14 hours."
• Oscar Gracey [28:00]: "I do believe that it's more likely than not that he is in fact on performance enhancing drugs."
• Oscar Gracey [48:13]: "She's in a facility... She said, I'm definitely isolated to talk to those people that live here."
• Oscar Gracey [95:07]: "I think there's a larger like issue with conservatorships maybe because they're so hard to get out of."
• Trisha Paytas [141:57]: "It's your child. And when the children have problems, like, why are you airing that out?"

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Conclusion:

This episode of "Just Trish" offers a comprehensive exploration of contemporary celebrity issues, the evolving landscape of social media, and personal insights into the challenges of maintaining authenticity in the digital age. Trisha and Oscar's candid conversations provide listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives on the myriad topics they cover.

For more in-depth discussions and exclusive content, consider subscribing to "Just Trish" on YouTube and supporting through Patreon Patreon.com/justtrish.

Transcript

[A]

Guys, I have a confession. I, I.

[B]

Yay.

[A]

Hello. Or should I say hello, Governor? Come across the pond? I did. Got me some fish and chips, got my britches in a bunch and came right on back to eat some mushy peas on just Trish. I'm your presenter today, Trisha Paytas.

[B]

It's kind of Australian, but really a little good.

[A]

I never did an Australian. Yeah, I don't know what that turned into, but I'm back from overseas.

[B]

I've been filming the new season of Bridgerton, everybody. Yay.

[A]

People did speculate that that's love. That love the manifestation, love the Duluth. What if I am in it and I can't say it? I can't say what I worked on? That would be crazy.

[B]

That'd be so fierce.

[A]

I would keep it a secret. I'm pretty good at keeping secrets these days. Maybe I did. Who knows? I'll tell you what. I lost a bunch of weight because they do not have. I guess they're probably healthy over there because they don't have, like, preservatives or something.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Like, they can't use certain ingredients at McDonald's. Have to use, like, real meat. Like, yeah, I want that ping on. Give me that all day long. We're back. Hi. Just Trish. Okay, you guys, today we have a new sponsor, Built Rewards. I can't wait for this ad read because it's a new one and it's a doozy and I love it. So fast forward 20 minutes to see our Built Rewards sponsor. We love them. The Arrows of Trish tour has been officially announced. Taylor Swift has not sued me yet.

[B]

That is actually surprising. No. Cease and desist. Does she.

[A]

Does she do that? Because everyone was saying that they're like, she's gonna sue her. And I was like, is that a thing she does?

[B]

Her team is pretty fierce, I will say for sure. Yeah. But maybe if we just keep it on the low, she will sue.

[A]

That's why I made it public. I was like, I wanted to know Taylor and your team. It's an homage to the greatest tour that ever was. We started this podcast when your tour started, and I wasn't. I didn't know much about Taylor Swift when we started this, but I became a Swiftie and I became obsessed and I became engaged with it. And I was like, let me pay homage to the great Taylor Swift, who, in my opinion, number one touring artist in the world, so why not try to be like that?

[B]

Yeah, literally. And I have put in the blood, sweat and tears for Taylor. Literally. Since the first era. So I think by proxy, you know.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even the first episode, our second episode was dedicated to Taylor Swift. Like, you've been just hardcore. I remember we started this new job. Oscar's like, I can't do the second episode. Cause I have to go to the Eras tour. And I was like, period. Didn't know what it meant at the time. And now I'm upset.

[C]

Also, your era is predates. When does. When did Taylor Swift start?

[B]

2006.

[C]

Her first era.

[A]

That's 10 years before me.

[C]

Close.

[A]

It's pretty close.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

2006.

[A]

Me and her. First of all, I graduated high school 2006. I was not doing music all the.

[B]

Way, which I posted.

[C]

No, I'm talking about YouTube. Your era is. No, your tour. This is very different. That's why. Okay, Taylor, it's different.

[A]

Let's just. Let's just bow down to Taylor. Like, Taylor, you're a queen. I cannot compare. And it's also the eras of Trish. May I point out.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah. It's like eras of Trish. Because I like, just like our loveline. It's not Loveline. You know, it's a parody. It's a parody. Okay, everybody.

[B]

It's kind of like the drag version. There are like, drag artists that recreate the Eras tour, like, of Taylor's version of the Eras tour. So I feel like it's in the same vein. Yeah, it's kind of dragging.

[A]

I love that Eras tour. Trisha's version. Yeah. I was trying to think of a way to go. I didn't do the bangs or the Taylor makeup. A bodysuit was similar, but our bodies are very different. No one's confusing the two. No one is like, this might be Taylor's Eras tour coming back.

[B]

You know, yours looks good. You rock a body. Shit. I must say, you did say that.

[A]

That felt made me feel confident that day. I was like, thank you so much. I'm going to wear that one on tour. I think it was very tight, but I'm going to.

[B]

It's been a long time coming.

[A]

But I turned around.

[B]

I left that comment on your, like, reveal post. And I'm like, I don't know if Trisha's going to know what this means.

[A]

I have no idea what that meant. I thought she just meant, like, this has been a long time coming. Like, it has.

[B]

That's how the Amber's tour opens. It goes. It's been a long time coming. It's been a long time coming. Remember what you watched it. Remember in the beginning where like things start waving around and then I should do that. She like combines lyrics from all her different eras.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Into one. So you could do that. It's like you crying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

She teases it all.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

Got to watch it again.

[B]

I got to make some notes.

[A]

Format mine. I still Sabrina Carpenter. Short and sweet. One for this last Christmas. I'll do. I'll find out what the eras. What did she do? Little vignettes in between. I got to see.

[B]

Yeah. Little transitions. I go in between.

[A]

I will not find that. But I. I should do a Taylor cover. I was thinking about doing a secret song in each city that has to pertain to the city. So I'm like, maybe that might happen. It might be just acapella. I don't know if I have time to get the whole thing around. But I'm excited. I'm glad the Swifties that got it. Got it. There were a couple Swifties. That's like, this is not it. I hope Taylor. But some of the Swifties were like, no, she's paying homage.

[B]

Yeah. And as like the Swifty veteran, I feel like that gives you like a good shield. You know what I mean? Yeah. Cuz I was putting in the work for Taylor before a lot of these girlies were alive. Were you there literally 2006.

[A]

What were you doing, McGraw?

[B]

I was. I bought the album on itunes.

[A]

Oh, period.

[B]

Yeah. Before streaming even. It was cuz.

[A]

So you didn't have a Twice.

[B]

I didn't have a choice. I to buy it.

[A]

You do buy all her albums. You go to Target.

[B]

Multiple albums. Like even back in the day. Like, I remember when Felis, her second album, came out. I was officially a Stan and I. My mom took me to Walmart before school even started on Veterans Day, might I add, because I think it was 11:11 or something.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

But I literally remember it so vividly because then I remember going into my like my first class and be like, sorry I'm late, everyone. I had to go get Taylor's album and then someone called me an F slur. So shout out Travis. Not Kelsey.

[A]

But did the teacher say anything? That's crazy.

[B]

Honestly, I don't know. But she was an ally. Mrs. Williamson. She was pretty fierce. Yeah, that was my girly.

[A]

So he kicked out. Or he's just like, sit down.

[B]

I don't think he got anything. You know, the jocks back in the day, they kind of got away with a lot of reckless behavior, but they were jealous. They were looking out my pinned Instagram is me and Taylor Swift, Travis. So suck on that.

[A]

Twice. Yeah.

[B]

Sexually.

[A]

But I would love to have her on the podcast. I love her. I love her, but I'm trying not to be too much of a Swifty, because I want to be, like, friends. You know what I mean? I can't be Fanny, because I think anyone. I'm like, a super fan of, I just. I maybe get a little nervous. I think her. I could give her some real friendship. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not a fan. I just. I respect a casual.

[B]

Yeah, a casual colleague, you know, Colleague. There you go.

[C]

You guys share. Share a stage.

[A]

We're one year off my. My next album we called 1988. We're very close. But anyways, the era, the eras of Trish Tour, you can go on Ticketmaster. Some shows are not on Ticketmaster. By the way, we sold out 23 cities already. I have cities that are sold out here. Right here. They're all sold out. Like, literally all of them, except the ones that aren't. And I think I know why. Because Cleveland is, like, my hometown. That's where all my family's from. And I was like, how come Cleveland's not selling? But it wasn't on Ticketmaster. They said, I guess the venue is not a Ticketmaster venue, so you might have to go to, like, Vivid seats or. So I don't know. My thing has the outback thing if you want to go to all the ticket links. But we sell tickets in Detroit, Cleveland, Houston, Portland and Pittsburgh. And Detroit is like, a huge venue, so that makes sense why we would not sell it. All these other ones. I'm very excited. Toronto sold out in a minute. There was like 6,000 people in line. Honestly, I should play an arena next time. That's what I told them. I'm like, give me an arena. And I always said this about Toronto. It's not even anything. Even in my flop era, I had like 800 people in Toronto show up. Like, Toronto loves me, and I don't know why. I don't know what it is up there. I don't know, but I love it.

[B]

Toronto.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe I'll get a key to the city or something.

[A]

That would be everything. I don't have a key to any of these cities. Maybe not. Which one don't I know? I don't know some of these cities. Do you know where I suck at geography?

[B]

To preface, before you, someone told me.

[A]

I had, like, two North Carolina shows, and I was like, I don't know what that means. Where? I don't even know which one. It doesn't say this. It doesn't say the States on here. So I'm confused. I have no idea what's in North Carolina, I would guess, because I don't know what Tysons or Charlotte is.

[B]

Charlotte's North Carolina for sure.

[A]

Atlanta.

[B]

Which one?

[A]

Atlanta.

[B]

What? Atlanta, Georgia.

[A]

Okay, so that's not it. God, I don't know. Raleigh must be one of the north. Yes, that's North.

[B]

North Carolina.

[A]

Oh, they're both okay. I don't know.

[B]

I think. Or South Carolina.

[A]

I'm gonna be discovering all these cities. Kansas City, maybe we'll see Travis Kelce there.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Go see the Chiefs game. I don't know. I don't really know a lot of these cities, but I'm excited to go, actually. I really like it because I. When I never been to a city, I think school. Salt Lake City's wild. That's like. I'm gonna get a swig.

[B]

I was gonna say, you can finally get it.

[A]

Yeah, I'm gonna get the swig. The Whataburger in Texas, I'm gonna get.

[B]

Is gonna be fierce on the road. The food you're gonna get.

[A]

Yeah. Thank God Tick Tock's back. I thought about that. I was like, is this tour gonna be worth it if I don't have Tick Tock? Like, it's just like, you know what I mean? Like, people go and, like, you film the show and then you post it.

[B]

People are Tick Tock living, you know?

[A]

Love that.

[B]

Yeah, it really is. Eras tours, live back.

[A]

I thought the live tab was.

[B]

Oh, I don't know.

[A]

There was no live tab this morning.

[C]

You can go live. It just comes up on the for you page.

[A]

Oh, but you can't go to, like, a live and just scroll through. All right, well, anyways, thank you guys for buying all the tickets. Truly, I'm. In all sincerity, I actually am, like, super shocked, for real, at, like, selling out so many shows because, like, it makes sense to do, like, one or two and you sell out. But, like, all these cities and also, like, I haven't heard of half these, so I'm glad there's people there. And thank you for coming. It's cool. I love you guys. That's so cool. I'm super excited. We're going on tour and then my Broadway shows February 3rd, and we announce the special guests this Wednesday. So look on all my socials.

[B]

It's fierce. It's really fierce.

[A]

Fierce. This lineup is, like, beyond a list. Not Only in the theater world, but like a mainstream world. I'm. I kind of can't, like, think about it because I think I would psych myself out. I'm like, I was kind of making myself a little, like, sick over, like, the weekend thinking about it, because I was just like. I was like, what? Because, you know, I love singing, I love performing, but these are like, the most, like, like, most top talented, like, humans in the whole world. And I'm just like, I. What am I doing? I'm singing with them. Like, this is. Oh, God, I don't know. But, you know, I'm just gonna.

[B]

For charity. It's for charity.

[A]

Ticket sales, online streams, merch, all of it. You know, it's going to the Entertainment Community Fund, which is helping people out here in the. The LA wildfires, which is really cool because we were, like, talking to them about it and Netflix did just a huge donation to Entertainment Community Fund. And it just helps people in crisis and times of need and stuff like this. So it was cool that they donated a bunch of money. So it's good. And yeah, that is the. Is why we have all these talents coming out to raise the money. Well, I guess it's, like, sold out. We can still get online streaming tickets. Trisha on Broadway, because it is going to be actually insane. And I'm trying not to think about it because I would get overwhelmed. But also, I came back from London and shout out Anna. She was the makeup artist, one of the lead makeup artists on the project I was doing. And she loves your vlogs. And she gave one of these for you. Yeah, she said she just watched her vlog. Oh, wow. I'm glad I threw it. Okay. She got Percy pigs for us.

[B]

So sweet.

[A]

Yeah, she's like, this is for you and Oscar. She just watched your vlog. She literally was like, oh, yeah, I got you a little cookie biscuits. I got you a Harrods mug over there for your tea. She. Yeah, she was. She's a huge, like, she really. I love when people actually, like, show their fandom because a lot of people, like, I'm a huge fan, whatever. But she, like, knew everything about you. Everything about me. She got this sweatshirt for me because she's like, oh, it's. It's like. It's like Brooke's sweatshirt that you wanted.

[B]

You know, San Diego.

[A]

Yes. And so she's like, and then you can wear on the podcast because it's like pink or whatever. Or she even said, I decided I'm going to wear the podcast. It's Pink. But she probably knew that. And she was, like, the head makeup artist on this project. Like, she, like, works with, like, she just did Timothy Chalamet's makeup when he was over there. Yeah, she is, like, this big, big. She does Rosalie. Like, she does, like, the biggest people. And, like, I was just kind of, like, shook. I was like. She was. No, I'm, like, such. It was, like, so cool, and she was, like, such a cool girl. And, yeah, I, like, loved her. So she got to see Percy Pigs in this, and it was just so much fun. So thank you, everyone in London. I would love to go back. We may have to move the podcast there, because I really do enjoy London. I'd be so skinny. I would be so skinny. Not. But the people are so nice. And I was like, honestly, who needs to eat when people are so sweet? I couldn't eat anything, but it's fine. Have you been?

[B]

No, never.

[A]

Really? I'm shocked.

[B]

I would love to go, though.

[A]

You know what? Tanner was just telling me she went to London for the ERAS tour randomly.

[B]

Yeah, I remember her. And Paige went, oh, that's so odd.

[A]

Like, why did they fly all the way over there for that?

[B]

I think it was cheaper to get tickets overseas, like, in Europe, than it was, including the flight and everything, which is crazy. It was cheaper to get tickets to the airstore overseas than it was to get tickets in America is. Because I think in Europe, they have stricter laws about, like, reselling tickets.

[A]

I see.

[B]

Whereas, like, here, it's kind of wild. Like, a $500 ticket is, like, $20,000 resale. Yeah, that's actually.

[A]

That seems illegal for sure. You didn't go over. You didn't go to London for the Aerostar?

[B]

No, I don't even have a passport. I should probably get that fixed.

[A]

Really? You need to get one because we're moving over there. I. I want to do, like, long term. I'm like, maybe, like, the Bridgerton Season 5 or something. I can move over there. I would love to go over there. Long term. I'm just very nice. People are nice. It's always, like, cloudy and gloomy, but I kind of like it because it's.

[B]

Kind of the vibe, right?

[A]

It's, like, not hot. And you don't feel like you have to be outside because it's not a nice day here. You feel pressure.

[B]

It feels the pressure. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Springtime. Like, everyone's like, what a beautiful day. I'm like, well, I don't want to.

[A]

Say we should go outside. I'm like, no, and in London, everyone's staying inside, and I love that so much. It's wonderful there. And I love everyone there. And I can't wait to show you guys what I did. I did a lot of stunt work.

[B]

Stunt work.

[A]

I did some stunt work.

[B]

Oh, mama. She does her own stunts, y'all.

[C]

Film cruise over here.

[A]

I did. I brought the behind the scenes footage. I did some stunt work I wasn't aware of. There was, like, pyrotechnics, and I was just. I was.

[B]

Did you have to run?

[A]

No, I was. I was sitting, but I had to climb. Yeah, it was.

[C]

She had to fly.

[A]

The running would have been wild. Can you actually run for us? I was like, no. And I already posted. But Alex Konsani was there.

[B]

That is crazy.

[A]

Which is. That was so weird. We just talked about her on the podcast. I was like, that's her name. I was like, that is. But she is booked and busy. She's going to Turks and then she's going to Fashion Week. She's like, everywhere. So she, like, she just happened to be on the shop. It was, like, such a weird coincidence, but she was just cool in real life. Very young, 21, wild.

[B]

So young.

[A]

So young.

[B]

In the top model of 2024. Which is crazy.

[A]

Oh, my.

[B]

2025 to you. Really?

[A]

She is top model. She is. And she's so funny and so nice. You know when you meet someone pretty and then they're just like, also so nice and so funny.

[B]

Sick. You got to pick one. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, and she's cracking everybody, and the whole crew's laughing, and I'm like, damn. And I always thought I had a pretty big personality, but I really do become a wallflower when I'm around other people because, like, there are just so many amazing personalities out there. And I'm just like, let me just be in the corner. But she was so nice, and we were so sweet, and we had a key and it was fun. And I was only there a little bit. I didn't really get to see much, but I do hope to go back, but I am jet lag. I did watch Blink Twice on the airplane.

[B]

Oh, that's the Zoe Kravis.

[A]

Yeah. Have we not talked about. I thought you liked it.

[B]

No, I haven't seen it yet. Oh, we did talk about it a little bit, because the original name for the movie was.

[A]

Yes, I've been talking about this. I thought we talked about this. And you're like, oh, I love it.

[B]

No, I haven't seen it. No. Okay.

[A]

I Thought you were like, this is a great movie. It was actually good. It was better than I thought.

[B]

You know what movie I saw over the weekend was One of Them Days with Kiki Palmer and Sza, and it is so good. So not sponsored, but everyone go see this movie because it is, like, the first female, like, black female buddy comedy in, like, 20 years or something.

[A]

Really?

[B]

And the crew, like, behind the scenes, predominantly black. Issa Rae produced it. And I love. She does Insecure. She was in Barbie.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

And it is just so funny. And first movie. Yeah. Kiki and Sza are the two leads, and it is, like, literally from beginnings and the funniest movie. It's my new letterbox, like, top four, really. I think no Hard Feelings is out. One of Them Days is in. I fear.

[A]

I've seen them promoting it. I haven't seen, like, a trailer or anything.

[B]

It hasn't been, like, getting that much press, weirdly, but it is number one for the weekend at least. Yeah.

[A]

So it's, like, crushing it.

[B]

Yeah. It. It made, I think, 11 million. 11 or 12 million. But it's, like a small budget, like, comedy, and it is just. It is so good. It is so good to have, like, a female comedy again. I loved it. I need to see it again.

[A]

What would you like compare to. When you say, like, buddy comedy? Like, what does that mean?

[B]

Like, I think, like, the two guys. The two guy comedies. Oh, like 21 Jump street with, like, Channing Tatum and Jonah. No, they're just.

[A]

They're two roommates, I think Buddy cop. When I think about, like, buddy cop film. Okay.

[B]

Like, two best friends. Yeah, it's like, that kind of.

[A]

And they get into, like, mishaps and Sza was good.

[B]

Sza. So good. Her first movie's amazing, but, yeah, it kind of. It's insane that it's her first movie because she actually has such great, like, comedic timing. Also does some of her own stunt work and that. Really. Yeah. You and Sza have a lot in common.

[A]

Let's get her on the pod.

[B]

And it is just. It is so good. So I need everyone to see it. If I can influence anyone and do anything. See One of Them Days. I loved it.

[A]

Go see One of Them Days, Blink Twice on the Virgin Atlantic Plane. And the Millie Vanilla movie I watched. Go watch that one, too. That was good. I knew nothing about it. I loved it. I mean, that's great. You sold me on it. I do want to see a movie. I haven't. I want to see Last Show Girl too. I haven't seen that yet, so I need to go see that.

[B]

Oh, is that out already?

[A]

Yeah, but it might actually be out because it was such a limited release, so I'm getting out.

[B]

I want to see that one too. With Pam Anderson.

[A]

That one looks good. Substance I need to see. I know you said you saw it.

[B]

I haven't seen substance either. No.

[A]

Why do I think you saw all these?

[B]

Because we talked about it as if we've seen it.

[A]

Okay, but I thought you, like, saw it. You're like, it's good.

[B]

It's good. It's the body horror of it all. I'm not, like a body horror kind of girl, but I. I stand beside everyone who loves it. I believe everyone who thinks it's a great movie love the memes that have come out of it.

[A]

Same. I want to see it just for the memes.

[B]

Yeah. I want to, like, be a part of the conversation, but everyone I talked to have seen it because I'm like, what's the vibe like? Will I get grossed out by it? And everyone was like, you probably will. So I'm like, okay.

[A]

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[B]

But.

[A]

But I'll still see it. I know because I keep referencing it too, and I've never seen it. So like, when I see, like, really pretty girls like Tana or like, Alex and Sonia, I'm like, you're like my substance. But I don't know what that means. That's okay to say. I don't know. But I'm like, you're like, what I would go for as a week. I wish I could be you for the week. You know what I mean? I don't know. Like, hopefully that's. Yeah, I would like to see that one. Because they say I saw somewhere, like, pop crazy. Someone's like, demi Moore is predicted to win the Oscar. And I was like, that's wild. Considering the nominees this year.

[B]

Yeah. Variety switched their prediction for best actress to Demi Moore from. I forgot who it was before. I think it was someone from Conclave or the Brutalist. I forget. But then they switched it to Demi Moore, who wasn't even predicted to get a nomination at first.

[A]

So that's crazy. I need to watch it because now that makes me want to watch it. I was like, okay. Damn, she must be.

[B]

Yeah, It's a big deal because horror movies never really get into, like, award season. So the fact that a horror movie, especially body horror, is in the running.

[A]

Who directed it?

[B]

I forget who directed Eli Ross or something. I think it was a female.

[A]

I want to say, love female director, but maybe male directors. This thing I worked on over the weekend was female director.

[B]

It was a Coralai Fagarette.

[A]

Love.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think I would only work with female directors.

[B]

Oh, she's French. Sounds like French directors. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you're right. Because who was the other one?

[B]

Amelia Perez. Yeah.

[A]

Interesting. That's interesting. I love it. I love female directors. I think that's why I like being twice, because Zoe Kravitz. I worked with the female director over the weekend. I think, like, only female directors get the vibes. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. And not enough of them.

[A]

Not enough of them. Yeah.

[B]

I had another really. A really random tangent, too, that I thought was funny kind of of the makeup artist who said she watched my vlog because I got a lot of comments from people, especially Trish Crave, actually, that said my boyfriend reveal in the vlog kind of looked like an apology video. And I thought that was.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Shockingly accurate. It really did. It was giving apology video. Well, especially, like, Mike, I wanted the Christmas tree to be in the background. And really, I don't have, like, any seats or anything in front of us. I'm like, I guess I have to sit on the floor.

[A]

Oh, the floor is always a Little awkward. I love a floor.

[B]

I was gonna say, it does feel.

[A]

Feel sad. Like we had a chicken fry in the bathroom. Like, I'm like, can we, like, get on a chair? A bathtub.

[B]

I didn't even think of it until, like, after actually, when I was doing the thumbnail because I was gonna put me and Darian as the thumbnail. It's like my vlogs. Oh, boyfriend reveal. And then it literally was looking like the Joey graceffa Daniel Prado rebroad got video. Because, like, my arm was around him and I was like, this is looking a little odd. And then I saw the comments that were like, it's giving apology video. And I was like, you guys are so. Yeah, they clocked it. I'm like, you made a point.

[A]

So what did you change it to?

[B]

Me and you. What was it?

[A]

Was the tit having a meeting or something?

[B]

Oh, yeah, Production meeting.

[A]

That was a wild title for you because you're so good at titles. I'm like, this sounds like a me title.

[B]

It's kind of camp. Okay, what's actually. I was actually trying to channel you. Like, I have titles in my head. Vlogs. Like, when people say that your titles of your vlogs look like Lana Del Rey album titles, that's kind of the vibe I'm trying to go for.

[A]

Don't go for that because I love you. So I was like, let's not go for the Trisha title.

[B]

So camp.

[A]

It was funny. It was random because you're so good at, like, thumbnails and, like, titles. I was like, that's so random. But okay, I love it.

[B]

I love the campiness of your. I like. Listen, if one Sundahl for MJ is going to be an octave, I feel like it's my duty to kind of.

[A]

Yeah, I was going to bring it back to the TikTok band. I got back to the Mukbangs. I go, you know, but I love TikTok. And I was like, not ready for it. But yeah, Daniel Prada. Speaking of, did you see everyone was, like, revealing their deep, dark secrets on.

[B]

TikTok as, like, their goodbye.

[A]

First of all, why do they do that? Everyone just like, I'm a liar, basically. I'm like, I trust nobody. But Danielle and Joey was. Was like, we never broke up any TR to that. Joey's coming on the podcast. You think it's true? No, but sources have confirmed it's not. So they did that just to troll?

[B]

I think so. But honestly, they stayed and do it like they've been doing that since 2020.

[A]

I'm like, like, let's ride this out forever. Everyone was just like, literally being like, I never ate the food in the mukbangs. I never worked out. I was like, literally, like.

[B]

I'm like, why are you outing yourselves like this? Because I. Even as it was going down, I still believed it was going to come back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I. But I also didn't think I was gonna get banned in the first place. So I was almost gaslighting myself. I was like, well, it was wrong already.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But as everyone was, like, crying and saying goodbye, I was like, there's just no way. Like, right?

[A]

But then when it did happen, it felt so real. I actually was so scared because I was just like, obviously I don't make a lot of money on Tick Tock. But I was like, wait, that's where I get, like, my hot Topics.

[B]

Like, how I know.

[A]

What do we watch? We go back to Rich Lux, you know, like, who are we watching for news? It's like, yeah.

[B]

And even for me, too, because, like, we had a. Like, my manager was like, okay, download your favorite tiktoks that, like, you want to keep in your resume or whatever, because in case you don't have access to them anymore. And I was like, oh, damn, this is starting to feel very real. She wanted me to do a goodbye. She was like, maybe you should film a little goodbye and, like, put yourself at your desk. And I was like, oh, that's cute. Like, I don't know about that, but.

[A]

You didn't do it. That's camp, though. Everyone was saying goodbye. Like, it was like Titanic just going down. Like, we're all going down. People were crying. And so, I mean, I felt it. I just, like, couldn't produce the tears. I definitely felt sad about it. And there are so many people who do just do TikTok. Like, that would be awful. I was more sad for, like, one, the relevancy. Obviously, it's kept me relevant. Thank you, everybody. But two, it was like, also just, like, finding news and, like, finding out about things. I was like, I don't know. And also, I had nothing to do with my time. I remember I got back on Saturday, and then Sunday morning we were. We filmed that Loveline yesterday. But then we had time in bed and was like, you can just like, lay in bed for like an hour before you have to get ready. And I was like, okay. And then I, like, laid. And there was no tick Tock. And I was like, what do I do? Like, I'm just Like I should just. I guess I'll just get up and I don't know, hang out with the family usually. I did like scroll TikTok for a little bit, probably for the better at points to get off TikTok for a little while. But I was so happy it came back. And I mean, what was it, like eight hours? And I was just like so like, I guess total. It was like 14 hours. But it was like eight hours for us. Cause we get up early and then it was like during glam, everyone's like, TikTok's back. I was like, oh my God. It felt like I like wanted to cry. It felt like the best. It is crazy how it was only gone for 14 hours.

[B]

I thought it was gonna be maybe two days max, right? Yeah, I thought at least a 24. Yes. So the quickness was wild. That was really insane.

[A]

Why did they do that?

[B]

I don't know. I literally thought like they would at least wait until the inauguration happened. But no, they were quick with it. Maybe the outcry was just so intense that they were like, damn, the point was proven.

[A]

You know, maybe they were scared. They're all like, damn, these people are going to riot. People are calling 91 1.

[B]

Yes. People were literally calling 91 1, which is nuts. Someone started a fire like a 19 year old literally got upset and lit a house on fire because TikTok was down. It. It's intense.

[A]

What's your secret reveal like? Well, since Tick I was going down. What would have been your secret reveal?

[B]

That's a good question. I feel like I kind of put everything out there as my problem. Very.

[A]

I feel like. No, you probably have so many secrets.

[B]

I really don't have that many secrets. Really?

[A]

My secret is like your secret. Let me think. I don't know either. I'm kind of the same way. Yeah.

[B]

Especially here. We just talk for so long that I'm like, I'm pretty sure I've said everything. Really?

[A]

I had a good secret actually that I was going to reveal and I was like, TikTok will probably come back in like a day. So I was like, let me know. But I did have a very big secret, but I can't reveal it. Maybe like. No, Yeah, I have none. I wanted to do what I'm trying to think of, like as a troll. Like, okay, remember we said we wanted.

[B]

To start the lie that you were a background actor on the Titanic. I still love that.

[A]

Coming clean. I lied about being on Titanic.

[B]

Is that what it is? No, I lied. I actually was In Titanic.

[A]

Oh, a double lie. Doubling down on it. Guys, I have a confession. I, I, I was the one who paid off Casey Neistat to not release that documentary. Oh man, I don't know. That's, yeah, that's a tough one. It was nice to be with David Dobrik free for. I thought he was gonna start making vlogs every week and I was like having anxiety so I'm like, thank God he's just not back.

[B]

Yeah. I think he said in the podcast I heard a clip where it was like he confirmed that it his video was not a comeback video. He just wanted to post something.

[A]

So yeah, he's like, maybe in Christmas time.

[C]

Obviously. Sponsored.

[B]

Post that. Yeah. The reason you'll do it, what is it called again?

[A]

Yeah, everyone's getting on that. Zela Fitness is. I do wonder like I do, I want to be on it.

[B]

I wonder how that helped. Like, did a lot of people sign up for it after that? I wonder what the like uptick was.

[C]

Definitely like if you think of, of young boys that want to be ripped, you know.

[A]

Yeah, a lot of girls, a lot of girls on TikTok to like bigger girls being like, I need to sign up for Zila. I mean, I guess it sounds like a good idea. I guess I would do it if they paid me a million dollars.

[B]

There was a body builder influencer that came out and did like a reaction and said that David Dobrik likely used PEDs for his transformation. So that was, I mean, obviously it's just his opinion, but his, let me read his rationale. It kind of makes sense, I guess. He says when I compare everything, the puffiness of the face, the fact that I do see Jino gynochomastia, the fact that he's single digit body fat, the fact he was able to lose all that fat and build muscle at the same time. I do believe that it's more likely than not that he is in fact on performance enhancing drugs. And he speculates maybe like testosterone or HRT to help that happen. In his opinion.

[A]

I think that's probably what most people think. I mean when you have like that low of body, like body percent fat and stuff, I mean that's kind of obvious, right? Like especially in a pretty quick time frame. What was it, four months? Because it was like the year total. But like for the last four months is when he did the transformation. So like, like that makes sense to get like ripped like that and so.

[C]

Lean and, and sometimes the issue to begin with is lotus testosterone.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So a Lot of people I don't kind of enjoy again, like, they take those testeron.

[A]

I mean, a guy saw one too. He's like, yeah, he's probably on it. He's like, I probably don't care. But like, they should, they should probably disclose it. I guess if it's like you're trying to sell a fitness dream to someone who's not.

[B]

Yeah, you're right about that. Same thing with like the people who do like the GOPs, you know, like, yeah, if you have something helping you, I think it's fine.

[A]

Just admit it because you do have to like, work, obviously, if like eat less and like work out if you, like want to keep it. So it's like to say you're aided in something is not like the worst thing ever.

[B]

Yeah. I think I would respect it more if he did.

[A]

Me too. Yeah. But I guess that wouldn't sell the dream of just anyone can do this.

[B]

You know, I think if I was like a fan and he said that, I'd be like, okay, well, I will do that and that.

[A]

Right, Right. Yeah, like not getting paid by the.

[B]

Oh, true own Clocked it. Wow, you're right. Yeah.

[A]

So he's like desila.

[B]

Unless zilla testosterone comes out, I guess. But yeah, interesting. I guess that does make sense because it is insane how much lean muscle and like definition he has. It still is odd to me. Like, I'm literally looking at the photo right now and like the packs, like the fibers between the pecs is odd.

[A]

And it's just so different before and after. It's like, it's really just like you change the whole shape of your body and muscles. Like your actual muscle. Like it looks like pec implants or something. You know what I mean? Not even the bigness of them. But you said the shape or the fibers as whatever it is. But it is very. Yeah, it's definitely different.

[B]

Yeah. But also odd though, that he got so ripped and then like his podcast is audio only. It's like, wouldn't you want to like, show it? Yeah, Do a shirtless podcast.

[A]

You know what I would be like? I'd like lose the weight, do all that. And then I'd be like, okay, I'm just gonna eat some pasta or something. You know what I mean? He probably wants to eat some food and just get back to. Because probably to keep that you what you probably have to eat like chicken and vegetables and that's it, right?

[B]

Yeah. It is like a long term commitment. Especially he's so lean. So.

[A]

Yeah. Because if you Eat like some carbs. Like it's does puff you out, right? Like doesn't it make you puffy or bloated when you're that lean?

[B]

I think so. You need obviously some, there's different kinds of carbs. So you do need some carbs obviously.

[A]

Like lasagna. He eats lasagna. Like I feel like skinny people, that's why they have those little bellies when they eat and mine never does because I just always look like that. It's so funny when skinny people eat and they have these little pregnant bellies and I'm just like, my belly just looks like that all the time. Just like it's. What is it from bridesmaid. When Mel's McCarthy's like I never bloat. I was like, honestly same. You're just always like that and sane girl. So in that case, I like that when I not like don't have to be so skinny because even like models and stuff, I mean I'm sure they do have to like, you know, if they eat like a burger it shows a little bit. But me and like just give me, give me two. I had pasta every lunch and it was so good. It's great. That's the great thing about being plus size influencer. People expect you to eat and they really do. They'll be feeding you like five meals a day. They think you eat like all the time. And I love it. I'm like, yeah, keep bringing those snacks. Someone, one of the people they like, they googled. I think it was like on Reddit, my, I feel like it was like five days before the shoot, someone on Reddit put like Trisha Paytas's favorite snacks and they had it all in there. They had the cheez, its, the grapefruit. I was like, wow, they really, that's.

[B]

A great like guide to have on there.

[A]

I know. And they were very accurate because they got me the wingstop chicken fingers and the butter noodles and all these like really good snacks. I was like, wow, you guys are really. No me Gatorade is banned over in the uk. Did you know that?

[B]

No.

[A]

Is it because the colors must be, must be something not good in it.

[B]

Is prime allowed overseas?

[A]

Oh, I wonder. KSI can't even sell in his own country. Like they don't accept it here. Oh, I wonder.

[B]

Oh, it says while prime drinks are generally available in Europe, the legality can vary depending on the country due to regulations on specific ingredients. Oh, I guess because it's like they have the caffeinated versions. So some countries like Slovenia ban the sale of prime energy drinks because those ingredients are not permitted. Interesting.

[A]

Maybe can you Google why Gatorade is banned? Must be red for. Yeah, I think red 40s banned here now. Red three or something got banned here in the United States. So, like Skittles and stuff will be different. The Skittles over there do taste very different. I wonder if they like, take that out.

[B]

Oh, I mean, brominated vegetable oil. BVO is a food additive that's banned in the EU and it's used in some certain Gatorade flavors.

[A]

Oh, interesting. Yeah, probably better. They're probably gonna be healthier over there.

[B]

I have never thought about brominated vegetable oil in my life.

[A]

I know. I didn't know that.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It's in everything we eat. I'm like, I know. It's so crazy that it's like bad over here, but like. Or over there, but here is like totally fine.

[B]

I guess that is the pro of like cooking your own stuff because then you know like, exactly what oils are in it. Because you could think you're eating healthy, but like, you know, you order, but you don't know what they're using to cook the chicken or something. You know, like what kind of oil.

[A]

Oh, we need our Patreon shout out. Go to patreon.com just trish if you want to see us eat Panda Express and do Hot Topics. That was a couple weeks ago, but it was good. We have a lot of good Hot Topics. We do on patreon. Patreon.com just trish.

[B]

And we reacted. Our latest episode on Patreon, we reacted to Gabbie Hannah's escape the nightmare, which is. It's so fierce. Like, literally. I need to have Jimmy put this clip in. Because when we realized that you were the whistleblower that kind of instigated the drama between Gab and Joey. The reaction was, I like, I don't think I've ever been so gagged in my life. That was so funny.

[A]

He was doing that. But girl, don't.

[B]

You with the whistleblower. Oh, no. You with the whistleblower. Oh, my God.

[A]

First of all, I'm like so skinny in this though. My face is so skinny. This was definitely 20, 19. 19 for sure. And I wasn't even involved. But Tanner was there when it all happened, when the chicken nightmare happened. And she like yelled and screamed. She had like first hand account. So she's coming on as a guest this week and she is going to spill the tea, honestly.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Because like what we discovered through it. Right. And by the way, I love Gabby Hanna. I think I'm coming to Pittsburgh. I think if you want to perform with me. Am I coming to Pittsburgh? I am and it's sold out. If you want to come perform butterflies with me in Pittsburgh, I would love to have you because watching it back hindsight with like new eyes, 20, 25 eyes. Like, it is just like camp. It's all very unserious. Like it. But it was so serious. Including me. I was angry, I was pissed. I was like, everyone knows Gabby. Like I was so pissed. And like looking back, my apologies to anyone that I hurt in this. But like it's just not serious. You know what I mean? It's just like not that serious. And it was serious to her. I get it in the moment. But I think like the videos and all the aftermath of it, everyone could agree was a little.

[B]

Yeah, I think everyone. Well, I guess you and Gabby were very unwell. Like you can see Gabby like, oh yeah. From beginning to middle to end. Like just kind of lose. I don't know, like what do you think it is? Kind of just like lose her thoughts, I guess.

[A]

Like, yeah, you kind of lose the plot as they would say. You're very. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what she has. She had stated in that video that she doesn't have mental illness, but maybe there was just something like anxiety or whatever, you know, she's. Something was affecting her. So yeah, I. And I relate a lot to that. Like when I was watching it, I was like, oh gosh. Then sometimes you watch it and you're just like, oh man, that was. She seems great now, which is good, which is why we watch it and it's all. But we do give her credit. Like there are points where like she made a point there, you know what I mean? And then Joey, we watched his reaction videos that coming up this week, his reaction video to it. So it's kind of fun to watch like old drama videos because everyone's healed.

[B]

Yeah, people have moved on. Everyone's healed. Like Joey is fine with Gatler, I think. I don't. Maybe it's one sided finest. I don't know. I don't know if she's talked to Gabby, but he doesn't hold anything against her.

[A]

Well, he accepted her apology that she didn't make directly to him, which I loved. She did a generic apology and everyone just. He's like, I accept it. I say it too. I mean, I accept your apology. She's like, that was not for you. But it was funny. And, I mean, she looked good. She. Her body was banging, and she looked great, and it was crazy to see it all go down. It was fun. We, like, spent, like, an hour and a half reacting to that. Were we eating? Oh, we had some veggie spring rolls on that one.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, back to the msg, I guess.

[A]

Oh, yeah. MSG is also Madison Square Garden, which I would like to perform Trishmas at this year. We don't have a New York City tour on this stop, but maybe Christmas. I said Carnegie hall, but I'm thinking Madison Corps Garden. So I want my Mason Core Garden and maybe, like, Crypto. No, that's too big. What's a little smaller than crypto here? Is Microsoft Theater still a thing across from Crypto?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I want to play Microsoft.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I think Jojo play there. You can play there for sure.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Done and done. You know, the O. Vaughn plays arenas, like, for 18,000 people.

[B]

That kind of makes sense. He's very, very popular.

[A]

18, 000 people. And he does stand up.

[B]

I think so, yeah.

[A]

She's on stage by himself telling jokes for 18, 000 people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy. That's crazy. I want to do that. I want to be. Could you imagine my little show with my four dancers for 18, 000 people at Madison Square Garden, Just music videos playing behind me. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Okay, I only want the Ovan then if he gets that many people, because I feel great. So my. All the girlies are going on there now.

[B]

So everyone's on the Avon. Yeah, he kind of. He has very broad appeal. I found out. I've looked into him a little bit more. So I think everyone kind of likes him.

[A]

Everyone. Tana loves him. Like, everyone's like, I. We love the Avon. I was like, well, damn. But I. Yeah, okay, well, I can be on it. How do I get on it?

[B]

Say it right there.

[A]

I think he's in Nashville. I'm coming to Nashville. I think I am going to Nashville. I'm playing where Elvis Presley played the Ryman Theater. It doesn't even say it on here. I just know it. So I'll be in Nashville if you're interested.

[B]

Yeah, why wouldn't he be?

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

I would love to see that conversation between you two. I don't know.

[A]

He's a character, though, right? He's like a Bobby or like a Bobby Altoff, kind of.

[B]

Is he or.

[A]

Right. It's not real.

[C]

He goes in and Out.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

But he does play like. Like that's his thing, right?

[C]

Just a little bit. Like, he'll ask you. Like, sometimes he just goes into tangent of places that has nothing to do with the conversation.

[A]

Do you think he's intelligent? Like, do you think he's like, yeah.

[C]

You have to be intelligent to do what he does.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. So this character is like, he's a little bit dumb, like a little ditzy, like, right?

[C]

No, but I think in real life, he still talks that way. It's more the subject.

[A]

There's no way he's a flula because he's very.

[B]

Maybe on road rolls he had the accent and maybe he, like, dramatizes it more, but I just made fun of.

[A]

His accent for no reason. I'm so sorry. I thought I was fake. Okay, I'm down. I'll come on. Sure.

[B]

Loved you on Road Rules.

[A]

Love you on Road Rules. I should watch it, actually. Is there was CT from the traitors from Road Rules.

[B]

Yes or no? He was real world, but then Real world Road Rules. The challenge. Yeah, that was the pipeline.

[A]

Should we talk about Traders or no? Does anyone care? I have people like, I don't even know what they're talking about.

[B]

Oh, with Traitors, I mean, I didn't even watch the new episode because. Because I saw a spoiler and saw it didn't go the way I wanted. And then I was like, it was. I was too, like, heartbroken to watch. I. I saw clips. So I basically watched the episode.

[A]

You don't want to watch it. I saw this was like, I need to watch it right away.

[B]

I'm the opposite. When things don't go my way, like on a. On a reality show, I'm like, well, what's the point of me watching it? Like, like, if you were on Traders and you got eliminated early, I. It would hurt me too much to watch it, you know, continue watching if you were gone. No, even, like, I guess, spoiler alerts for the Traders, obviously. But, like, I do, like, I love Gabby, Wendy, but I just. I loved Bob so much, so it's hard for me to continue on.

[A]

I feel that I have to continue on because both Gabby and Carolyn have responded to my DMs. They're very booked and busy right now doing press, but they'll be in LA soon. And they were like, yeah, absolutely. They were both, like, really excited to get my dm and I was, like, really excited because I, like, I love them now, especially Carolyn, because, like, last time we Talked. I kind of didn't know. And I was like, oh, she seems kind of, like, silly or goofy. And then you're like, no, I love her. So then I, like, followed her on Instagram, and she, like, had this whole sobriety journey story, and it was, like, really inspiring. And so I sent her a dm and. And I was like, oh, I love this person even more now. So I was like, I have to keep watching. I really love them. I think the girls are going to, like, pull through. But, yeah, Bob the Drag Queen getting eliminated. I will say yes. I'm so heartbroken, too. But you remember last time I was like, boston Rob, like, what a dweeb. Hey, Yeah. I mean, kind of, like, good at playing the game, right? Or no, you think it's bad.

[B]

He is good at playing the game. He hasn't won Survivor, I think, for a reason, because he does, like, these big, extravagant moves. But then, like, I think this was so early that he'll get chopped. Obviously, we see the next episode. They already want to get Rob out, so.

[A]

Because he's.

[B]

It's like a big move, but done so early that I think he'll get the job. There's still so much game left. You got to be careful. You got to be strategic when you. When you do something big.

[A]

That's crazy. For a trader to throw, like, another traitor under the bus is wild, but actually, they kind of smart. Honestly, I probably would like to throw someone on the bus, too. Like, you're a traitor. But what's crazy to me is how do they not throw each other under? Because, like, let's say, like, I was like, you're a trader, and, like, actually, you're a trader because I was up with you last night in the little run. You know what I mean? Like, how do they not do that?

[C]

Trying to, you know, preserve yourself. So you're trying to basically say, no, you're lying.

[A]

Right. Because you both had yourself as traitors. But his outro was good. Bob the Drag Queen. Like, he just, like, till the very end. He just did a really good, like, what's the word?

[B]

Like, he did a little monologue. Yeah. At the end.

[A]

I like it.

[B]

Zach Eschewer catching strays away.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know. That was, like, everyone's low blow. That was everyone's final straw for all. The Drake Queen, though, like, no, not Zac Efron. Don't say that about him. Like, okay, obviously, like, because if you.

[B]

Missed it, Dylan Efron goes, well, I grew up with an actor, so I know. And Bob goes Not a good one though.

[A]

It's kind of good. I mean, because it's so silly. I mean, obviously it's like, I do love Dylan. I sent him a DM too.

[B]

I was like, love Dylan Efron.

[A]

Yeah, I like him more than Z, honestly.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

He has a really good personality.

[A]

He's such a good personality. He's funny.

[B]

He's like, not taking anything personal. He still, you know, is with the gays he's supporting.

[A]

Bob online posted a really cute behind the scenes with them and like, they were like doing cute stuff and I. And I love to see that. I was like, they should show more fun. I know it's like not part of the trader like lore, but it'd be fun to see like, them being fun and campy.

[B]

I need Dylan Efron here because he posted an Instagram on the beach where he was like laying down in the water, but then his he. It was like up. And I'm like, Dylan, why did you post that? I have a question about that.

[A]

Does he date? Has he dated girls?

[B]

As far as everyone knows, he's straight. But that photo was giving, like, very much like it was. Why was your up like that in the water?

[C]

I have a feeling your Instagram is gonna get hacked again.

[B]

A lot of comments. No, not yet. The hacker has not been in there as far as I know.

[A]

How do people. Why would people assume he's stream?

[B]

That's a good question. I don't know.

[A]

It's crazy. People just assume like you're straight, maybe.

[B]

Just give such like, heteronormative energy, I guess. But you can't really assume these days. That's true. Because that photo was wild.

[A]

Like, I don't know many straight men that put their subs for a photo, but.

[B]

And he was wearing like board shorts and everything too, so nothing was really giving, you know, gay. Really? The booty tooch, as Tyra would say, is like, wait, what the booty? What the booty too.

[A]

Who says that?

[B]

Tyra.

[A]

The booty tooch.

[B]

Yeah, I love it.

[A]

Is that like a little problem?

[B]

Yeah. When you stick your. When you're posing and you stick your butt out the booty too.

[A]

We need kyra back in 2025. I need her show back. I need America's ex top model back. I need all of it back. And I want it to be controversial and problematic just like it was in 2002. Like, I kind of miss it. I kind of miss her. I don't know why we just like, let her go.

[B]

I know. I. I Mean, I get looking back at, like, some of the clips, especially, like the Tyra show, like, when she was cosplaying as poor and stuff. Some of this I was like, wait, huh? Like, when she was unhoused on the streets for no reason, like, wait, what?

[A]

It's like, it wasn't like, a little funny.

[B]

It is a little camp. Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it's like, kind of funny.

[B]

Yeah. And honestly, if, like, all these problematic guys can make comebacks and, you know, do their thing, like, let's have some of the women to get their. Their chances too.

[A]

One of the people who, like, gets away with. It's like Wendy saying, like, crazy things. I think, like, certain people can, like, get away with being a little. What's opposite of woke? She's a little like the opposite. I kind of like it. I love being woke. I love the wokeness. I think it's good for our community and society and human beings in general. But I do love a little bit of.

[B]

And I think Tyra, there's some things that made me like, you know, keep it in the drafts. Like, you know, when she had that one photo shoot with the models were race bending. That was crazy. They had, like, the white girl, like, African, not even, like, South African, like, proper African.

[A]

Like, I wonder what they were going for. Like, I'm trying to see, like, the other side, like, where they were trying to feel what.

[B]

I feel like the intentions were probably good, like, you know, the experience, this kind of culture. But then it's like, oh, that's not. You know, I would have fallen for that.

[A]

Like, I loved it back then.

[B]

Yeah. And I. I do understand because contextually that time, like, there was just no media from the POV of these different, like, ethnicities and cultures. So from, like, the. The mainstream, like, white lens. Obviously Tyra's not white, but I think the crew behind the show was very white, obviously. So the white lens is probably like, this is good. We're showing different cultures. But it's like, yeah.

[A]

And they did. I think they were, like, holding babies.

[B]

Yes, you're right.

[A]

That was so cool. I was like, well, that's a cool idea. You know, you could just see, like, the beautifulness. At the time.

[B]

I remember being thinking that I'm like, this is such an amazing concept. Like, I was like 12 or whatever.

[A]

But seeing the culture. So I think the intention was good.

[B]

Yeah. It just hasn't aged well because, you know, I think we've just had our eyes open to actual people who are living in these places, you know, and they're educating us. But at the time we were just ignorant because we didn't have access to these people. You know, pre social media, people forget like pre social media you just didn't know because you didn't have access to people's thoughts who actually lived in these places.

[A]

That's so true.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like no one had voices for that. Yeah. But now they did the model. It could be so cool because there could be like a range of models, you know, from obvious, like the plus size models which they had towards the end, but you know, just different genders and you know, you know, I was like, it would be cool to see the different models.

[B]

Yeah. And even like different like skin conditions too. Like Winnie Harlow has like vitiligo and I remember at the time it was such a big groundbreaking thing. Like Tyra made it such a big thing like, oh, it makes you beautiful, blah, blah, blah. But now it's like so many models like with different skin conditions and stuff. There's so many like high fashion models that have Vitiligo. And Winnie Harlow was so successful. So it was would be cool to have like all that kind of different representation or like Savage Fenty. Like Rihanna gets like models who are disabled and stuff too. So.

[A]

Yeah, you're so many categories and stuff. And it's cool. Like Gerber. I think Gerber baby had the first like down syndrome baby on their bottle and I thought that was like so cool. So it's really. Because it really does show that like anyone can model and stuff like that. Because that's what people want to see. They want to see like people that look like us on things. Yeah, like super cool. We'd love to see a Tyra come back. I know I was always like, ugh, I hate Tyra. But now I love her again. I'll come back ON Watch Season 5, Episode 1. I'm on the Tyra show where I reveal my real hair and it's me with like platinum blonde hair. And I was like, this is my natural hair. Tyra too. She's like, this is my natural hair. So it's like straightened and stuff like that. But we love to see it. She was a queen. She was a queen. So was Wendy Williams. She made a comeback and said she's like, I'm fine, y'all.

[B]

I know it makes me sad because she talked about her experience with like her conservatorship and talked about how she is in these like prison like conditions in the facility she's in.

[A]

Wait, she's in a facility? How did she come out for this?

[B]

That's a good question.

[A]

I didn't know. I thought it was like a conservatorship like Britney where she's like in her house and someone's just like watching her.

[B]

She's. She.

[C]

She was on a phone call, wasn't it? Or with tmz at least the shar.

[B]

She did an interview with Charlemagne. Yeah. She says that she spent three years living in what she calls it a luxury prison in like this New York facility. She didn't say which facility, but she says she was in the place where people were in their 90s and 80s and even when people were are in their 60s like me, there's something wrong with these people here on this floor. She said, I'm definitely isolated to talk to those people that live here. That is not my cup of tea.

[A]

Oh my God. So I don't understand, like she's in her sound mind and she has to stay in this place.

[B]

Well, that's, I think the issue too is like, obviously there was that like Wendy documentary on Lifetime a couple months ago that kind of showed like the, I don't know what the cognitive, I guess, decay of, you know, of Wendy. So some people are saying with like, if she has dementia, there's people that have experience with having like relatives or something with dementia where one minute they can be like there, you know, and like very on it and very aware, but then that's not the full reality, you know, like they do have these slip ups and they're not okay. So it's hard to tell for sure.

[A]

You know, she seemed pretty coherent. She's talking about P. Did he. Like, she seemed to be like.

[B]

Yeah, but a lot of people like with experience with dementia say that that's like normal with these like cognitive diseases without.

[A]

And she said she had no money, but it's like where all her money go. She's like she has no access to any money. And it's like, why would they have like a private caretaker for her wife? Why is she staying in like a facility?

[B]

Yeah, it's also weird. Like it just, it makes me have more questions. Obviously, like conservatorships I saw with Britney, like they can be so like restrictive and just taking away all your independence and stuff fully. So I think there's a larger like issue with conservatorships maybe because they're so hard to get out of.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know how it works with like, like how the court assigns a conservatorship, you know. Yeah, it's she seemed.

[A]

Yeah, she seemed aware. And I guess, like you said, people know, but at the same time, it's like. It seems like a milder case of dementia if she can, like, remember some things and, like, live her life. I guess.

[B]

Yeah, I would. I feel like. I don't know, there would need to be some kind of, like, diagnostic or something, you know, like, if a doctor was. Could. Because I think that was the argument, too. Like, they couldn't get a doctor. Her niece said that they couldn't get, like, a doctor to, you know, give the information or whatever. That was something that they claimed as well.

[A]

That's so weird.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Dr. Drew, he'll be there in a minute, you know.

[B]

Yeah. So. Because her. Her niece said my aunt hasn't had, from what I understand, a medical evaluation to see if her rights can be restored, and said that the conservator has made it difficult every which way for my. My aunt to be able to live any sort of healthy, independent life.

[A]

I think it was Brandon who said she signed something because she wanted to see her kids. It basically was like, if you don't sign this, you won't see your kids. True.

[B]

They hold something against you. Or.

[A]

Yeah, maybe that was something, like, with.

[B]

Wendy or if you're, like, under duress at the time and you sign it.

[A]

Yeah, of course. You just think, like, that's your option, I think. I don't know if it's, like, similar or not, but Hayden Panettiere, she, like, signed over, like, she thought she was signing over, like, temporary custody to her husband for her daughter, and then it ended up being, like, permanent. Like, they never gave the daughter back. And he moved to, like, like, Russia or wherever he was from with her. And, like, she never got her daughter back. Like, that's like. And she did at the time when she was, like, obviously like, unwell and she hadn't gotten sober yet. So she, like, did it to, like, protect her daughter. I think she'd, like, get her back and then, like, it was gone forever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I think that should be illegal, too. Like, signing something, like you said, in times of, like, duress, where you're just, like, so, like, not yourself and out of your mind. Like, you shouldn't be able to, like, make those decisions. You should get, like, a reevaluation in, like, a year.

[B]

Yeah, they do make it insanely difficult for, like, people who suffer from, like, mental illness and stuff, too. I think there is. I mean, you kind of know this more than anyone. Like, there is still that, like, stigma, I think. That follows people who have suffered from, like, some kind of mental illness. And it's, like, so impossible to shake that fully. You know what I mean? And, like, prove that you are, like, because. I guess because it's not a physical thing that, you know, is cured or something.

[A]

Like, you always have. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It'd be so easy for most to be like, well, she's crazy. Look at all this stuff she's done online.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Judge easily would be like. Like, you're right. That's done. You know? So I think that's. That's a bad issue out there. I was happy to hear back, but it was kind of sad. People want her back.

[B]

I know. I think everyone is really, really rooting for a Wendy comeback. I like this circumstances, though, are just so terrible. Like, it's. She has some family, obviously, like, she went to her son's graduation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So she obviously still is close with some family. So it is. And there's just so much conflicting information. That's the hard part, you know, like, yeah, there's, like. Obviously her guardian is saying one thing. Wendy is interface, and her niece and family are saying something else. So it's like. It's so hard.

[A]

Yeah. To know, like, what's actually happening. Well, Wendy, you can come on this podcast if you want. I love you so much. She's my fav. Her wigs are so good. I have some getting made to look like Wendy. I'm gonna become Wendy Williams over time. Look at it. In, like, four years. I'm gonna be tiny. I'm gonna have the bigger boobs.

[B]

Teeny ways.

[A]

Teeny ways. Because she really was, like, teeny tiny. I also love that she wore sneakers. I know she had, like, a foot condition, but towards the end, she started wearing sneakers with the dresses. And I love that because I hate wearing heels. I'm gonna start doing that too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She was everything. I love her, Wendy. Ah, Tick Tock is back. Oh, we already talked about that. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, someone was. Someone was excited about Tick Tock being banned, though. Brianna Chicken Fry.

[A]

Of course she would be. I think the people who are like, what did she say? I didn't see this.

[B]

Well, she did the photo shoot with spores illustrated.

[A]

Oh, yeah. She did look.

[B]

Yeah, she looked really good. And she kind of opened up about the fallout with Grace again. And she talked about how she was really upset over the fallout with Grace because it's taking away from the importance of what she was doing. Trying to help people heal and trying to help people have someone in the corner while they're going through such negative times.

[A]

What does that even mean? Like, what. What does that mean? What? Took it away? She took it away or people's conversations about it?

[B]

Yeah, the drama with Grace took away because she's, I think, I guess, really what she's saying. She was on a high, you know, after the Zach Brian breakup. You know, everyone was, like, reading for her. She stuck it to the man, she didn't take his money so she could, you know, speak out about her experience with Zach. She was, like, strong, independent. And then everything kind of shifted because of the Grace drama.

[A]

You guys did it. You and Dave couldn't stop talking about her. They talked about her so much. Like, that was crazy. Because Grace really, like, said nothing. She did, like, what Instagram story being like, yeah, plan brains. I come back, I'm shocked. Then they did 20,000 podcasts, just completely annihilating her and her character. I would be like, that's. Oh, that's the most rushing. I think that's what is with Brianna. Like, I do like her. I think she's so pretty. I like her TikToks. I get, like, her whole vibe. Like, I know why she's popular, but, like, the, like, self. The lack of self awareness is crazy to think, like, I was on this high and then everyone had to make it about Grace. It's like you made it about that. Like, you turned. You compared her to Zach Brian. Like, that was crazy. That was so. And that's what's. I guess they're friends now. They did a video where they were, like, together on, like, looking over a doc, like, yesterday or something like that. So I guess they're back being friends.

[B]

That's wild. You didn't see that?

[A]

Yeah, she, like, oh, Grace sent this video to me. Like, what we're gonna send to her future kids. It was like, them sitting, like, on a dock, like, recently. It was like, new. Yeah.

[B]

So I guess they're like, props to you, mama. Because Grace, I don't know if I could, like, literally the DMs. I just can't get over it. I mentioned it every time we talked about Bri, but it's like, like, the DM she was sending to, like, these fans calling her a nasty, evil woman was, like, that was crazy.

[A]

Did you. That's why. I don't know, like, you, like, find out I'm talking you in a DM to, like, a random fan called me nasty Evil.

[B]

If you only knew how nasty and evil Oscar was.

[A]

Wild I could never, I would never. That's so weird. Cuz I'm like what? Like you're such a weirdo for doing that weirdly to fans. Like I think that's like the craziest part and I think that's why like my PTSD from the Colleen situation is like her sending like my nudes like random like people. It's like okay, I guess if you're sending them to like your friends, I guess that's funny. I guess. I don't know. But like random fans, you're just like haha, look at Trisha was like her spread legs. Like that's so weird. And it's like the same thing. It's like talking about someone to fans is like you're such a weirdo. Like I could never. I guess they probably do it to like have people stop talking about it. Maybe they just want to be like, look, we're friends again.

[B]

I guess for both. It does help to kind of wrap it up because obviously Grace is doing like a new podcast. She has a fresh start. I don't know if she necessarily wants that. Like following her especially she's trying to do more like comedy and do. Yeah, like I think maybe be taking more serious as like a stand up comedian.

[A]

Sure. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So maybe she just doesn't want it following her. Brianna I think just wants everyone off her back.

[A]

So sure. She, she made up with Ken Yurich on the start trip. She's like, you know what, look, I'm friends with everyone again because she probably felt the heat but like rightfully so because I think it's again the lack of self awareness. You can't just like blame. And I'm like, I was like this too, right? I was just like, gosh, everyone's the problem except for me. And it's like I think when it's like the common denominator that you're the drama and all this is like there's probably like something that you're doing that's like wrong. You know what I mean? Like the Kenya thing where she was like brought up on stage and said, hey, I don't want to talk about this. And then Brianna's like, we're talking about this on stage. Like that's crazy. So to be like, oh, I'm not in the wrong. So maybe she just took a bunch of voices to be like, you know what, maybe I need to slow my roll and like apologize to some of these people that I hurt, you know?

[B]

Yeah. And she talked about how like on TikTok she was getting a lot of the heat for her fallout with Grace and how that drowned out so much of the positive feedback she was getting after the breakup. So she said when she got asked about the band, she said, how I'm feeling right now is I'm like, pop a bottle of champagne. Let's get rid of this horrible, hateful app where it's just like, mama, come on, Come on.

[A]

You can get rid of the horror playful app, but your horrible, hateful actions will follow you everywhere. Like, it doesn't. We'll go to Instagram to tell you what you're doing is wrong. You know what I mean? Like, I do like her. I really, like, kind of do. I get the appeal, but it's, like, actually the most frustrating person. And maybe this was me 10 years ago where people, like, duck. God, this is so frustrating. Like, she's not seeing it. So maybe I, like, get it in that capacity. But it is so hard. You could, like, shake someone so much and they're still like, I don't know what the problem is. Like, I don't know. Someone just ruined my high. Like, you ruined your high, which was also me. Your own worst enemy. You stand in your way. You self sabotage. I don't know. Yeah. The BFF's podcast is back without Dave, and it's just. It is a little more calmer. It's a little nicer. Who did they have on? They had. They have Josh Pack on. Yeah, Josh pack on.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

He's talking about me again. Saying that I started his vlogging career. I was like, I love. That's like the MO everywhere. I was like, that's. What does MO stand for?

[B]

That's a good question.

[A]

I was going to say, like, ammo.

[B]

I thought it was like, motivation, but ammo, like ammunition.

[A]

No, like, that's your movie. That's my mo. Like, people say that.

[B]

Modest operandi.

[A]

What does it mean?

[C]

The way of operation, the way you operate in life.

[A]

Oh, so my Emma. Okay. Right.

[B]

So method of operation.

[A]

I might be using it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But Josh Peck credited me as giving him a start in YouTube. And I love that narrative. That's so funny and so random, but glad I could have.

[B]

I guess it's better to say you are the reason than David Dobrik, you know?

[A]

Yeah. He's like, I did my first video, Trisha Eating Hot Wings, and it got 4 million views and he was selling it to Brianna and Josh and like, wow, that's so cool. It was nice. I always like to hear that. I always hear when people are talking about me. I always see little clips here. That's why if TikTok was gone, I wouldn't know who's talking about me. That'd be the true again, that'd probably be better. It's like, okay, you get to spend more time with your family. You don't know who's talking about you. Like, it's probably a better peace of mind, but I just like to know what's in the know, you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. You are a journalist, so. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I thought about interviews too. I'm like every time I have a guest on, I literally go to TikTok to see like what's the highlights, what's been brought up about them. And now you have to sit through a whole podcast and like listen to like all the points. It's like would have been so hard. So thank God.

[B]

No, Google. Google Giggles. That was like people were listing like those short form apps that like are out there and Google Giggles I guess is one of them.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

I have no idea.

[A]

You just like ask it something or what?

[B]

I think you upload little short form, like vertical videos. It's like a little platform. Yeah, that.

[A]

Did you sign up for Lemonade? That also got banned.

[B]

That also got banned. No, I didn't sign up for any of them. Red? No, none of them. I'm kind of like, I barely have a tick tock really. So.

[A]

That's true. You would have been like, I don't care.

[B]

The only reason I care was just from like the, the imp. Like the worker standpoint. Not even just influencers because there's the counterpoint to the bam. Like people were dunking on the influencers crying and stuff. I'm like, well, it's their livelihood. But not even beyond that because I guess they could eventually go to another platform. But I'm like the people whose jobs is literally like at every publishing company, every marketing company there is the TikTok person. Like, yeah, that is so many jobs like that in and of itself. Like, even for me, I'm like, well, I would just have to make videos for Instagram and Facebook. But I'm like, I like posting a TikTok. I make them for the TikTok audience because it's more fun there, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Who scrolled reels? I tried reels. And I'm like, like, this is not it. Yeah.

[B]

And it's so old. Like everything is like months old on reels. I'm like, I will say like reels.

[A]

Do get a lot of views. Like my reels get like 700, 800,000 so they, they get views. So someone's watching it. Don't know who but I guess it does get some views. But I thought about that with you. Why I'd asked you a while ago. I was like oh wait, so if like TikTok goes away like are you having a job? And they're like no, I'll do like reels.

[B]

Yeah. Because I do them for like cross platform my videos but like I, I generally make them with like tick tock in mind like foremost. But there are people at different publishing companies who like, like just do tick tock. Like People magazine has someone that just does People magazine tick tock. Like not Instagram or anything. So yeah, that's like everywhere. So I felt so bad for like those people and like the small businesses who get most of their revenue from.

[A]

Like tick tock shops. Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah. It is crazy. But they said like 1.3 million people make their living off Tick Tock.

[B]

I fully believe it. Yeah.

[A]

And then so many influencers, like ones that have like maybe you know, 500000 followers or whatever. They said they were making like like 15 to 20,000amonth on TikTok. I was like how are you doing this? I've never made that much ever on TikTok.

[B]

That is wild. Yeah, because like the, the creator program for TikTok it's not like you get a ton of money.

[A]

I get nothing. I get like, I mean a couple thousand is like good but like it's not like you know, I've seen one.

[C]

Person was a teacher and she was showing how much she makes every month on TikTok and it was between three to five thousand dollars a month. But she said without that like I couldn't be even a teacher. Like she said so many teachers, that's how they supplement their.

[A]

It's amazing that many people make a living off Tik Tok. It's because that's cool, that's amazing. How do people find people like like random people.

[B]

I guess that is the good thing about Tik Tok is the discoverability on Tik Tok is so much better. Yeah.

[C]

The only place that you can actually get your message out and cuz I.

[B]

Think that that's why everyone loved it is because like I mean it's a double edged sword. But almost anyone could be an influencer. Like so many people could have their moment, you know and then have a career after that if they like keep it up. You know.

[A]

So many people when you Teresa Tisa, she has like two Lifetime movies and a TV series. The Mormon Wives, Jules LeBron, like, all those, you know, they all. I got Terry Joe, Terry Jo. Yeah. Just so mega from Tick Tock and mega, mega. Like, that sounds weird when I say it, but even me, like, we were talking or like I was talking to Tiana too. It's just like a whole, like, new wave of like, audience that just like makes you, like, relevant again. And like, it's not my main thing over there. But, like, I love Tick Tock for that reason. Because, like, millions of people are watching your TikTok where like, you don't get that on any other platform.

[B]

Yeah. Even Spencer Pratt, obviously, after the fires, he, him and Heidi had like a huge week on Tick Tock. He revealed how much he made and he said the. That week he started posting after the fires, he made 4,000 for just one week. It's pretty good. And then on Tick Tock Live, he made another 20,000 in one week.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I was telling Moses. I was like, that is so wild, so cool.

[B]

Yeah. And obviously that spawned the Heidi's album and song going number one.

[A]

Everybody was posting it and it is. That is so cool. That's like the cool part of social media is everyone just like rallying behind you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because they're very honest. They're very honest about like, you know, their money and how all their money was in their house and stuff like that. Because people do assume Spencer said something so funny and it was like so relatable where he's like, you know, my whole life, everyone's like, they're broke, they're washed up. Has been.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then as minute that like the fire happened, they're like, they're rich celebrities, they don't need.

[B]

It is true.

[A]

And that is so the story of like probably every influencer celebrities life is people thinking like, they're broke. And then it's like the minute something happens, like, they're rich, they're fine. It's like, make up your mind.

[B]

Yeah. And I do feel for obviously everyone but Spencer and Heidi too. Like, they are just sweet people and like, they've had a bad rap literally their entire careers. You know, like 80% of their careers, they've had a bad rap. So it is nice again, like, seeing the, the good stories that come out of such devastation, you know, like the silver lining, seeing them, you know, get their flowers. People not unironically loving Heidi's music too, because it's always been good. It's always been Good.

[A]

Last year, when she's on the podcast, like, this is the. You are the tea. Like, that's so good. Her music, like, it really was, like, ahead of its.

[B]

Yeah. And they're just such, like, nice people, so it's nice to see them get some recognition. And they're everywhere. They're Good Morning America.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Press everywhere.

[A]

They should be on the next White Lotus. They'd be, like, the perfect couple on there. Especially, like, reality stars, like, on vacation at the White Lotus or something, because they're perfect and they would act so perfect. Spencer is, like, such a good villain. And, like, they would be so good on there.

[B]

And it's so funny. He still has that, like, villain air to him, branding to him. But he is so nice, like a troll, you know?

[A]

And so his trolling is, like, funny. And I was glued to it. I was addicted to. I. I love him. I'm trying to get on the podcast, but honestly, they're probably. They're probably doing Call her Daddy or something. You know what I mean? They're probably too booked and busy, but if you guys want to come on. I love Heidi and, like, Spencer seems sweet too. So. Though.

[B]

And great parents. Like, it is. They're just so sweet. I don't know. It's like, yeah, it's so funny. Like, if you're a millennial, you know, like the Hills era. No one ever, ever, ever thought that Heidi and Spencer would be the couple from the Hills to make it. Yeah, the. The, like, reputation around them at that time was garbage. All the old Heidi interviews after she had her plastic surgery coming out where, like, these interviewers just, like, berate her and make her feel so small and terrible, so awful.

[A]

She was so sweet. Like, people were asking the most, like, horrible, evasive questions, and she was just.

[B]

Like, handles it so well. I don't know.

[A]

I, like, like it. Jane the Virgin did a Heidi and Spencer reference. We were watching them, and they were like, something. I was like, wow. They were really like, again, this is like an era of time. I don't remember because it was, like, probably like, 29 to 2013 or something. So, like, I don't remember. I remember they were, like, big, but I didn't watch the Hills or anything. So watching, like, Jane the Virgin and then mentioning them, like, wow, they were really like that couple that, like, got mentioned everywhere.

[B]

Yeah. The Hills was, like, in an insanely popular show. Really was, like, the blueprint for that vibe. Like, I mean, Laguna beach with Lauren Conrad, obviously, that was, like, the blueprint for, like, the oc and then that kind of became the cultural phenomenon with the OC and then I feel like the Hills is kind of why Gossip Girl became so popular, because it was like the heightened New York version of the Hills.

[A]

So interesting.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like for like, if you were in high school around that time of like the Hills in Laguna beach, like, like, it's a fundamental. Again, fundamental, like, personality building block, like in your head.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. I was, like, kind of unaware of it happening at the time, but sounds like a good show.

[B]

It was it at the time. I remember finding out it was like, scripted, though. And then, like, everything kind of came crashing down. I was like, oh, my God.

[A]

Which is so funny. Like that. And back to Milli Vanilli, the movie I watched. Like, it's so funny how they got canceled too, for, like, lip syncing their music. And it's like, I mean, I guess it wasn't really their voice because everyone kind of lip syncs. But it is crazy how it's like, such a different time. We're not like, everyone lip syncs everywhere and it's like, not a big deal, but. And same thing. The scripted, like, everything is scripted. Sun selling, sunset, like, everything scripted, but like, the Hills. I was like, oh, my God, that's like crazy.

[B]

Yeah. The shift of, like, finding out things were not 100% real.

[A]

Yeah. I was like, why would that be?

[B]

Even like Ashlee Simpson, like, when she did the. The lip sync moment on snl, like, that was like almost like career ruining moment. But now it's like very much like, known that people sing with backing tracks and stuff, you know?

[A]

And she, like, actually sang her song. She just had, like, what was it? Vocal nudges. What was that song?

[B]

Yeah, she had like a swollen lymph noise. Yeah. Something with her acid reflux made her throat like.

[A]

It was like everything was happening at once. Like acid reflux, swollen lymph nodes. It was a lot. And it's like, yeah. And it was such a big deal. Everyone's like, ew. Like, how could she. Like, she got canceled for everything and booed. And I was just like, now everyone's doing it.

[B]

Yes. And it kind of reminded me because Nikki DeMartino did, like, her TikTok series where she talked about how, like, like, the beauty and lifestyle girly videos from back in the day on YouTube were all, like, fake and scripted. And it was so funny seeing the comments and having, like, her fans be, like, gagged by it. They're like, yeah. They're like, wait, this wasn't real. Like your get ready with me or. And like your morning routines weren't real. And I was like, well, I mean.

[A]

How do they not. Because they have to be like her age, which they're not. They're not old. They're probably like 28, 29.

[B]

They're probably younger because. Because I, I. Because I, I was just thinking my. Because my. The equivalent would be like me watching the Hills and then not knowing it's fake, I guess. And because I was in eighth grade watching Laguna beach and they were like four, three or four years older than me. So maybe there's like a four year delay.

[A]

And you thought. Right. So like people a little younger that.

[B]

Yeah, just thinking it was real. Especially YouTube, I guess the, the bridge between like reality and, you know, fakeness. I guess it's like really thin. That's true.

[A]

Especially back then. But those videos just seem, I mean, weren't they all like in their twenties pretending to go to high school? Like, I thought that was like the giveaway. Yeah. How did they not know that? That's crazy. Or wearing like crop tops to school. I'm like, okay, no one can like wear those to school. That's like crazy. I guess that's good. It came out. There is like a video that has like, it probably has like 10 million views and it's like Trisha Paytas morning routine versus like all the other girls on YouTube morning routine. Have you ever seen it?

[B]

No.

[A]

And I thought I like ate so hard with it and it's actually. And I wasn't even like trying to be funny or parody or anything, but it is crazy how polished and bright and how like aesthetic their routines were. I was like, that's crazy. And I was just trying to like make something similar. And I was just like, oh, it was the craziest thing. And I never watched routine videos like that. So I just didn't realize these girls were like chopping strawberries in the shape of like stars and like putting them in smoothies and oh my God, mine was just even like six Cinnabons or something. Like it was like. So the video is so did it come up?

[B]

Yes. Oh, we need to react to this. It's only three minutes, so it's quick.

[A]

Sure. It's short.

[B]

Oh my God, this is amazing.

[A]

How many views, as you can see at about 8am by the Sun shining through on my face, which is really.

[B]

Annoying at the time, but it's really.

[A]

Good because it gets me up. I wake up with greasy skin and crazy hair.

[B]

I don't go on Social media because I feel like it's not good for.

[A]

Me in the mornings and I prop myself up to go through all my social media. Twitter, YouTube, Patreon, you know the drill. Follow me hishapadas at any of those. Walk outside and pick a fresh lemon from our lemon tree water and to take my daily vitamins and my 10 ounce coffee. This always gets me started in the morning. It's not a morning routine unless I meditate. So I love doing guided meditation.

[B]

Meditation long headspace.

[A]

And we love the reoccurring meditation candle.

[B]

How can we forget the candle?

[A]

I go into the bathroom, do my business because I feel like everybody does this first thing in the morning and I'm going to take the time to make myself a delicious and nutritious breakfast. Sugar cereal. Maybe not the best, but simply made. That's my. I also love adding almond milk and ice vegan lifestyle. And while I'm having breakfast I'll just use this time to check.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

Check on my schedule, watching YouTube and eating. Give yourself a little bit of down time to be creative. So I have actually been using my bullet journal. I use my colored pencils and I just plan out my day. Then I will have some toast. This is not real. Listen, I hate doing more.

[B]

We love a relatable queen.

[A]

Finish up eating. I was really having fun, really happy, really in a good mood. Then I just clean up just a little bit. But then it is. I clean up nothing. Ever go to Pilates. So I grab a banana and get changed. It is my favorite thing.

[B]

Oh my God. In the world. I love it.

[A]

And then I eat some more and then I catch up on. Oh, she was like Glee. Glee. Basically awake at this point. Gets your face clean. I'll start playing with my eyebrows. You know, just.

[B]

Just a fun. Oh my God.

[A]

So and then you start looking like this. Then I let the shower. The clarisonic that smells like coconut is my favorite thing. I use the caviar moisture shampoo and conditioner. I got the liters off of Amazon and I like to Q tip my ears after shower. I'm going to brush my hair and part. That's what everyone does.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

I want to sit there and soak up the sun and just take a little bit of time to be really calm and relaxed. And I actually like to think of.

[B]

Things that this is crazy. Actually a day with a little bit.

[A]

Of gratitude will only lead to having a much more happy and positive day. The editing is top notch. What's that channel called?

[B]

Oh God.

[A]

Let Me.

[B]

See, that was.

[A]

That was good editing.

[B]

Skinny. Shout out Skinny.

[A]

Love skinny. That is so. It's just so funny because, like, no shade. Obviously those girls. But there's just no way they do that every morning. Like draw on a whiteboard. I mean, maybe people do go to Plaza. I don't know. Maybe it's something everyone does. You should do a morning routine for yours. Please do one. Do it like that. Like the aesthetic.

[B]

Girls, my morning routine is not aesthetic at all. Yours is.

[A]

You do go to the gym. You clock in for work at Studio City. Like you would be. So that would be such a good one for you.

[B]

It's not very aesthetic though. Like, I usually when I go into work, like, I wake up like at 4:30 and then I have like 10 minutes to get ready and then leave.

[A]

See, that's realistic. Do a realistic one then. Do a realistic one where you have 10 minutes. What are you making protein shakes in the morning? You love protein, don't you?

[C]

Like energy drink. Energy.

[B]

Thank you. Yes, that.

[A]

You should totally do a morning routine. Just look at your energy drink.

[B]

That is so funny.

[A]

But that's like crazy. Like the way they like film those and stuff. I'm like, that looks like a full production. Like, bright lights, the bowl. Everything is so aesthetic. I'm like, no one wakes up like that.

[B]

Waking up doing my bullet journal is nuts. And I use my colored pencils to.

[A]

Color cactuses and stuff. I mean, it's very beautiful. But again, back to the Nikki demar. It's like no one's doing that in the morning. Especially these like, teenage girls. It's crazy.

[B]

I know. It's like I can so shocking that people believed it. I don't know. I totally missed out on this wave of YouTube. I guess you were more my wave. The realness.

[A]

You're watching my morning routines. No, if you go to my channel, like, my most popular ones are like my nighttime routines. They have like 10 million views. And it's so funny. I thought I was crushing it. Like, it never was to me. Like, let me show you the real side of this. Like, I'm like, that is my. But can I tell you, I even added stuff in there. Like making coffee in the morning. Never did that. You know what I mean? So I added stuff that I thought would make it aesthetic and cute. And meanwhile they're like, so nighttime routine. I remember adding so much like, oh, I take a bubble bath. I do this. You know what I mean? A realistic nighttime routine is like literally a makeup wipe. And then like sitting on the Couch, you know what I mean? So it's so funny.

[B]

That was too funny. Oh my God.

[A]

Miss those days. That's funny. Yeah, she came clean. She was like, yeah, those 24 hour overnight challenges, like we're not overnight. We just like didn't sleep the night before and like looked tired going in or something.

[B]

The one thing that did gag me is that that they had separate bedrooms, like filming bedrooms. I guess that was kind of interesting. Like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

She had like her and Gabby had literally their own bedrooms that they actually lived in. And then they would shoot in like a separate. Almost like a studio.

[A]

I guess it was like their set house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They said, yeah, that's kind of gaggy. It makes sense. But it is kind of crazy. You just think like that's how they like live there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It also seems hard to like do two bedrooms, like, you know, decorate two bedrooms.

[B]

Yeah. And I guess they were like a month ahead. So like they would be doing Valentine's Day in January, you know, like having that video. Video. So really like a full blown production, like a show. Because that's how shows would do it, you know. So that is pretty wild. Also what got me too was that she wanted to hire Alicia Marie to take photos of la so she would have photos to post on her Instagram.

[A]

That is crazy. That is so wild. So what does that mean that like Alicia Maru would take these photos and.

[B]

She could use palm trees. Yeah. So she could still make it look like she lived in LA because she like was on the east coast.

[A]

So weird. And it's like, why does palm trees.

[B]

Like anything that felt la basically?

[A]

Why did she like when she came out here to take a bunch of photos and like bank.

[B]

Yeah, maybe that kind of was probably be more efficient, I would think, coming back and forth.

[A]

I didn't miss that era. Like I didn't watch like the Alicia's and the Nicki and Gabby's because I think I was like older. I just knew those were like popular videos. I don't know who. I must have just seen people doing them, but I don't know, I just never watched them so I didn't know what people were doing.

[B]

I was, I think there was that whole motif. Like it was kind of the girls that were in that compilation had never seen before. But I feel like that's whatever one all those lifestyle girls were doing. So who was I watching at the time? I really don't remember. Like the lifestyle girls. I think I would watch like the Awesomeness TV group, like Claudia Salusi. Who else Was. Oh, Lauren Elizabeth Gen X Pen and Rebecca Black were in that group, but I don't think they did like the lifestyle vibe, you know? Yeah. Arden Rose. There was, like, a little group of them that I would watch, but I wasn't too into, Like, I would watch Alicia for sure.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. I loved her vlogs.

[A]

I watched Matt Barbie. I did watch her.

[B]

I do remember her.

[A]

Bethany Mota.

[B]

I loved Bethany.

[A]

I did love her. I thought everything she bought, I would, like, buy a candle she had at lotion. Like, I did think she was kind of.

[B]

Yeah, I guess she is even. I guess that first wave kind of. Right. It was like.

[A]

She was huge.

[B]

Bethany Mota, like Ingrid Nielsen. I kind of think of them in the same.

[A]

I mean, Juicy Star and Blair were, like, the biggest. Yeah, they're the original. Anyways.

[B]

Yes. Love, Blair and Elle. Oh, my God. I remember at vidcon, I. I was leaving vidcon once, and I, like, not hit. I, like, maybe tapped her. Elle's hus or. Are they married? Alex Goose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. I tapped his car leaving Vidcon, and I remember being so scared. I was like, oh, my God, that's Alex Good's car. And I sped off. But there was no damage. No, there was no damage. I checked first, and there was nothing. But I was still so embarrassed that.

[A]

I left a little bump. Yeah, we get sometimes, like, delivery. Like, drivers will, like, bump our cars a little bit and most, like, where'd this white scratch come up? I'm like, I don't know. I guess bumped in, didn't tell us. Which I guess happens. I guess. Are you supposed to leave a note with a scratch? I guess I don't look.

[B]

I remember looking first because also, it was in front of the. The hotel. The hotel at Vidcon. So, like, literally, there's valet. There's a movie, Million people out. So I looked first, and there was nothing. But I was so embarrassed, you know.

[A]

It was his car because the.

[B]

It was his, like, driver or whatever. So the front. There was, like, a paper at the front. You know, it says his name, and it said Alex Goot. What?

[A]

Why do they have that?

[B]

I get to pick him up, I guess.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, it was like a driver.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's what they put the name, like, right there for everyone to stock.

[B]

Yeah, I think it was one of the early Vidcons, so I don't think they have the security down.

[A]

How many did you go to?

[B]

Maybe three. I did two. I did one as prep. I did. My last one was with, like, David Dobrik. That was 2019. I did his press and then maybe like two with strawberry and Joey, I want to say.

[A]

Oh, well. So you went to quite a few.

[B]

Yeah, I think three in total.

[A]

Did one happen this year?

[B]

Yes, but it was mostly. I think it was mostly Tick Tockers. Oh, we Tar Yummy was on the. On the poster. That's how I remember. Yeah. Remember that one of the billboards was Tara, Jake and Johnny together.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That makes sense. They're like the only YouTubers who, like, get views. I feel anymore that doing like, those.

[B]

Basic videos in a good way, like, Tara's baking cookies. I'm like, work mama.

[A]

Yeah. And Jake is like eating 711 gets like a million. I mean, it's amazing, but, like, I feel like no one else could do that right now on YouTube.

[B]

Maybe like a. Oh, no. Sophia Nygaard, her production is like.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Intense. Yeah.

[A]

There's not effort, but they literally just sit there, like one thing and do it.

[B]

Like the. The big ones now there's just such a production. Like, there's a crew behind. Yeah, yeah. A lot of big YouTubers videos because. Yeah. Who else is. Who else is like a casual. Like, it's that many. I'm sure there's some that we just have never heard of, but. Yeah, a lot of gamers too.

[A]

Right. People want to see streamers or commentary channels. Like the Penguins, as well as me that he's just like, yeah, no lights. Yeah. I'm always amazed by him. What's penguins talking about? I should always look him up before Hot Topics. He's talking about anything we care about.

[B]

That's a good question. Let's see. I know he was recently in the news because he bought a. A esports team with Lugwood. With Ludwig.

[A]

What's esports?

[B]

It's like a sports team, but for video games.

[A]

Like, why would you buy that? That's not even real. It's just virtual.

[B]

This, like, you know, we thought a.

[A]

Guy was coming in and I heard the thing.

[B]

It's just penguins.

[A]

Xqc. I know. We talk about them all the time. I don't really know.

[B]

Usually, like, the big streamers were on some kind of, like, esports team and that's how they. They ended up getting bigger or something. I don't know. What is he talking about? Chick Fil A made a huge mistake. 2 million views. 2 million views on 18 hours ago.

[A]

I need to watch that. Like, what did they do? Why do you have 2 million views on that?

[B]

This car chase was so good. 1.8 million views 2 days ago. Adults go to war over Pokemon cards. 1.4 million views A day ago. Tick Tock might get banned. 1.5 million views.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Iconic weapons from movies and games. That's a little crazy. Stanley cup thief. Police chase. 1.7 million views. I guess we gotta, like, react to police chases or something.

[A]

That's crazy. That's just like, no one would watch. Our channel would take. They'd be like, what are we doing? Just reacting to the most random people doing random thumbnails too.

[B]

Like, they're not even of him, you know, Like, I spent literally at least an hour on the thumbnails here and he just literally chooses whatever.

[A]

It's just like a still from the video.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

That's kind of like two pixels. It is very U coded.

[A]

I wish I could do that. Two million views. That's amazing. Jake too. It's like, damn, they really do just. Oh. We also clarify. Tina did not go on the tart trip.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Which I thought she did. And she. No, she, like went. She had to evacuate to Vegas because her fire. She did have to evacuate. Her house was in the fire zone.

[B]

Yeah. She posted her story last week that she wasn't sure what she was gonna do and then kind of went radio silent after that and then comment responded to it on a TikTok that she gonna end up going. But she's gonna talk about it on canceled. I guess so.

[A]

Well, she also talked about not Loveline today and it's coming out first. It is hard. It is hard when you have like two podcasts. Normally we don't, but we hadn't seen each other in so long. So it's like, okay, we'll just like talk about the podcast. But it is hard when it's like you haven't seen someone for so long to like, not talk about it. It feels weird to like, just answer like relationship questions after, like a dramatic, like two weeks here in la. So. So, yeah, it was interesting because I was like, oh, so. But she does talk about. So go there if you want to see. Yeah. Anyways, I got. It's so crazy how, like, I guess like leaving the country. It's like literally, it's almost as if, like, you're not in the world anymore. Do you know what I mean? Like, it almost was like nothing existed.

[B]

I see. Yeah. You felt.

[A]

I felt so isolated, like in a bubble, I guess by how the people from Bridgerton feel. Like they probably feel like, you know, like not in the real world because they're like in 1800 England. You know what I mean? And, like, that's how we were. We were on the set for, like, three days. That's all we did. It's. It was Christmas themed, so it was very, like, I don't know, just like. And you're just so isolated, so it feels like the world, like, doesn't exist. Like, nothing's happening in the world, or you just feel so far removed. You're like, what did I miss? And it just feels like, you know, everything was so long ago. The tart trip, like, all this stuff is just, like, in a different world. You know what I mean? And it was so weird. So, like, coming back into, like, the real world world, I'm like, what did I miss?

[B]

Especially when you're so busy, like, you're doing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're traveling, so you're not home. And then you're also just booked and busy. So then when you do get, like, downtime, it's like, I just want to like, chill out a little bit, you know?

[A]

Definitely. Yeah. I would like, FaceTime. And then, like, jet lag, so then you just, like, want to sleep. And then I was like, I don't know what's happening in the world. But it didn't sound like I missed much because I was trying to catch up on Hot Topics.

[B]

I'm like, there really wasn't too much going on.

[A]

No, I was like, what's happening? Just more Justin Baldonian, like, Lively stuff coming out all the time.

[B]

All the time.

[A]

Are you over it? I love it. I want more of it.

[B]

Oh, I am over it, I think.

[A]

Are you? Yeah.

[B]

Because it's just more. It's more like he said, she said kind of stuff. And I'm like, at this point, like, if it's at court, like, let's see what, like, witnesses have to say. You know what I mean? Because it's like, you can say one thing and then he'll have, like, a different perspective over it. Like, no, this is what it was. But then there's no, like, real concrete evidence. Like, obviously, I read. I read through all of, like, Justin's lawsuit. And again, people will say I'm biased towards women. Whatever. I don't care. But, like, he said that he signed the sexual harassment document because Blake Lively was going to walk away. But I'm like, okay, there's no proof of that. Like, you're saying he signed. So he did admit to signing that. That agreement of the sexual harassment. So to me, I'm like, if you.

[A]

Sign that, what is an Agreement to sexual harassment.

[B]

Well, I'm wording it terribly, but basically it was that agreement he signed about the working conditions for Blake to resume filming again. So it was after Blake complained about the sexual harassment and made, like, a list of what you can and cannot do. Like, do not show me a video of a naked woman. But that initial, like, complaint that she.

[A]

Filed, he signed off.

[B]

He admitted in his paperwork from his lawsuit to signing that initial agreement and then. But said that, like, he signed it, I guess, under duress or whatever, because Blake Lively threatened to leave the project altogether if he didn't sign it. But there's no, like, proof of that. So that's why I'm like, I kind of need witnesses to be, like, what actually.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Happened on this set. You know what I mean? Because.

[A]

But even if there's witnesses, it's just gonna be people that are team Blake and team Justin, you know, like, no. No one will change anyone's mind ever. Like, the people. That's true. And we love Justin. Love Justin. Because I've seen it with. Even this, like, stuff comes out with Blake, and then people are like, no, Team Justin. And then Justin has to fight back. Like, no, Team Blake. Like, you know, I just think, like, no matter what, there could be witnesses that be, like, I saw this happen. Like, but that's not how it was meant to be, or that was taken out or, but she did this. Or, you know, there's always that Blake is powerful.

[B]

So, of course. Hey, that. But I'm like, I don't know. She also doesn't have much cachet right now. Like. Like, she doesn't have much, like, value to her. Like. Like, her. If you have, like, a Blake Lively seal of approval right now, like, I feel like that doesn't get you very far because she. I think people look at her so low after it ends with us that, like. Like, if Blake Lively said, I love just Trish, I don't think it would do much for us, you know, you.

[A]

Want to come on Blake Lively. You can. Well, she does have her dragons, and that's Taylor Swift Reynolds again. Like, do you think she said that?

[B]

I. The text. I feel like you can't, doctor, Especially if you're, like, submitting it. It.

[A]

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[B]

That's so good.

[A]

Yeah. No, that was crazy.

[B]

That's why I didn't change my opinion on everything. Like, I Already believed Blake to be, like, really cringy, and it just solidified that. She does come across very cringy, but it didn't change my mind about some form of. Of sexual harassment happening at some point.

[A]

You know, that's what I agree with, too, because it's like, okay, all that stuff does prove that she's, like, a little bash. But also, like, if you sexually arrest her, that's, like, a completely different thing than her just being cringy and asking Taylor Swift to, like, defend her.

[B]

Yeah, and I get everyone's points that are making. They're like, you know, they're kind out. It's basically, like, countering every one of Blake's, like, claims of sexual harassment by saying it wasn't ne. It wasn't that necessarily. It was actually this, you know, but. But there's no, like, concrete proof of that. Like, the concrete proof that's in the lawsuit is all, Blake looks cringy, and she wanted to take away the. She wanted to claim the direction of the film, and she didn't read the book. I'm like, y'all were hating the book literally last year, and now you're mad that she didn't read the book and he did. But y'all were literally saying the book was garbage. So, like, what are you upset about? You know, I mean, the proof in.

[A]

The basement was there, which is crazy. I mean, again, it doesn't negate sexual harassment, but it is crazy. I was like, wait, I don't understand. Like, why was he down there? Why did the ceilings have, like, tiles popped out? Like, why was it not in, like, another screen?

[B]

Yeah, that is to, like, just put him somewhere, I guess. She was really just like, again, if he did something to piss off the whole cast and crew. Because it's also not just Blake. Like, the allegations are also about the baby. The. The. The baby version of her played by Isabella. What's those allegations that he was creepy about when she did the sex scene where she lost her virginity? Oh, yeah. So that's also in Blake's complaint.

[A]

So, I mean, to be banished to a basement at your own premiere. I feel like something went down. For you to just comply be like, all right, I'm going in the basement to watch this.

[B]

And I get why he would. If everyone's against you, it's like, damn, what do I do?

[A]

But do you even show up at that point? I think if everyone's against me, and I'm like, you're gonna go to the basement? I'll be like, like, you know, What? I'll just say I'm sick. I'm tapping out on this one.

[B]

True. I don't think I. If I was him, I wouldn't have gone if everyone was against me. But I do get the resilience of still showing up. Like, I think he really did care about the movie, you know, so. And it's his production studio, but, yeah, I don't know. And also, there's again, I can. I could go either way. Like, once the case comes out, like, people actually come forward, but I just haven't seen anything to negate the sexual harassment. And also people are saying, well, Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have so much money, but Justin Baldoni's production is backed by a billionaire, and the billionaire is backing his side of it and literally said that he wants to bury Blake and Ryan. So it's not like Justin is like a complete underdog with no money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like, he's being backed by a billionaire.

[A]

But, like, do you think. I think he'll, like, his reputation definitely got the biggest hit. Because I do think, like, Blake Lively could work again easily. I don't know. Justin Baldoni might not.

[B]

Not, I think, after the complaint, after blazing play. I don't think so. Because, I mean, you can see with Johnny Depp, like, he won the Amber Heard trial, but it's still hard for him to get work right now. Obviously, Amber, like, left the country, so, yeah, it was like a similar. In the sense that, like, not neither Blake or Johnny are really working again. I don't know if Blake, even if she wins, it's like, obviously so unfortunate, but. And Ryan Reynolds, for that matter, like, they. Blake and Ryan have projects coming out this year, but how can you do the press campaign? I feel like everything. Even if she wins, like you said, there's still gonna be the people who will never believe her, which is unfortunate, but it's reality, you know?

[A]

So I would love to never see another Ryan Reynolds movie ever again. I don't think I've ever seen it. I saw some people on the plane watching, like, Deadpool, and I like, even though I was bored out of my mind for 11 hours, I'm like, I'd rather watch Milli Vanilli movie than this Deadpool. It just looks so bad. Even just, like, watching on someone else's screen, I'm like, this all looks horrible. And yeah, I never liked Ryan Reynolds. That's my take. He does seem weird. He always has seemed weird.

[B]

And yeah, I. I don't hate him. I think he's. Again, can Be cringy. But I think Deadpool, he's really smart with marketing because I think he turned Deadpool into a huge franchise and, like, kind of save Marvel. I really liked it. I didn't love it. It's not, like, my favorite movie ever, but I enjoyed it. Yeah, I like the. I like. I like X Men, though. So I'm, like, really biased. Like, I like Marvel and stuff, and I think he did a good job with it. I think he made it really popular because he knows how to market for sure. But I do think he's a little cringy.

[A]

They are cringe. And I'm gonna say more. Ryan rents. I'd rather see Blake Lively movie than a Ryan Reynolds movie, to be honest. I'd rather watch Gossip Girl 20 times over than see. What's the one where he was, like, a waiter and splitting food? Do you remember that one? Was it called. I mean, it's called Waiting.

[B]

I have no idea.

[A]

Oh, my God. He was just, like, in a restaurant, constantly spitting on people's food. I was like, this is weird. His early stuff was crazy. The National Lampoon, like, all those were just torn.

[B]

The first movie I remember of his, I think is maybe the Proposal was Sandra Bullock.

[A]

Oh, Never saw it.

[B]

And what else did I see him in? I don't think I saw him in that much.

[A]

Just Friends where he was, like, fat and then he, like, lost weight.

[B]

I remember there was. Was there one where he was Abigail Breslin's dad? I honestly don't know.

[A]

That's wild. Where's Abigail Porcelain? I like her.

[B]

Oh, she's around. She, like, came out to speak about Blake, actually, because she had a similar experience. Like, she reported sexual harassment on set, but she got fired for reporting it. And so that's why she kind of spoke out to, like, support Blake because of her own, like, experience, and then no one believing her. So, yeah, very unfortunate. But I don't know. Again, we'll see it.

[A]

Well, then he did counteract and say that she was the one that was wanting the kissing scenes too long or did unwanted kissing or something like that.

[B]

Yeah, that's why, again, it's, like, very. Like, he kind of went through and there was, like, a rebuttal for everything that Blake claimed in her complaint for, like, the sexual harassment. But again, there just wasn't, like, evidence of it where you can can firmly say it didn't happen. I guess, like, it's very he said, she said.

[A]

Because then he's like. Do you not believe him then? Because he was saying, like, There was extra kisses and they usually rehearsed that beforehand. And he was in Jane the Virgin so he knows about the kissing and he's like, she did extra. But I thought it was just part of the process.

[B]

And I, I don't firmly, I can't like hear him say that didn't happen and then just believe him because of like the system that has worked against women for so long. And that's why I do like, like would I'd rather go out for the woman and then look a fool than like not believe them just because the system has worked against women for so long. Like look, literally Abigail Breslin being the proof. Like she got fired for reporting sexual harassment like a year or two years ago. Like it's recent. Yeah. Even like look at the MeToo movement. Like Harvey Weinstein was getting his way with all these actresses for years without, you know, anything without him getting exposed. So it's just Hollywood has worked against women for so long that like I would just would rather put myself out there and believe a woman who, who's is claiming this versus not like if Blake ends up like if all these people come forward and was like nothing to happen and Justin wins the case, then that's it, you know, like I would believe it and then that's that. But I'd rather look a fool than.

[A]

But what about no one who's looked out for the guys, like Demi Moore kissing a 15 year old boy and Justin Bieber getting groped by, you know, pop stars and stuff like that. And like no one, no one even says anything. Don't even like bass an eye for them. You know what I mean?

[B]

True. Yeah. The. So I guess similarly like the, and we see with like the Menendez brothers back in the day, like people thought like men couldn't be victims and I think that definitely is something too. But I think if he, Justin was claiming like the sexual harassment thing, that'd be one thing. But he like he, Blake claimed it. There's a document that was signed because of the claims. Yeah.

[A]

So, so tough. It's tough.

[B]

Cuz it is tough.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I don't like, I'm willing.

[A]

I think sexual harassment can work both ways. And when he was saying like she did extra kisses and I was like, ah, like okay, well what if that's true? You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know, she's obviously more power. I don't know. I, Yeah, I, I do lean more towards Team Blake because those counter stuff that he came with. It's like, okay. But, like, none of that equates to, like, sexual harassment. But then he did have those little things in there, and I'm like, well, maybe he felt uncomfortable too. I don't know. I don't know how it goes, you know, because he's like, ultra religious. But it is all the stuff that comes out. It does become like a. It is like entertainment at this point. But it's, like, kind of sad. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. It makes me sad more than anything. And people are not normal. There's a good chunk of people who are not normal about their opinions on the case, too. Like, they. It's so intense. Like, for me, it's like, well, with the information I know now this is my opinion, but it can change. Like, it's not a firm stance, but there are people that are so intense about it and are like, oscar, you're biased. Blah, blah, blah. Like, if you go to. If you go to TikTok, you would know about the case. But I'm like, anywhere you get your news is biased. Each platform is biased either towards Blake or towards Ryan. Like, I get a lot of my information about the case on Twitter and Reddit, and those platforms are biased towards Blake. So a lot of people. Like, when I talked about it the first time a couple weeks ago, there was a lawyer who, like, represents a lot of, like, sexual harassment victims and, like, broke it down from her perspective. Right. But then on Tick Tock and Instagram, it's very much pro. Justin.

[A]

Yeah, I get all my information. Yeah, Well, I see his side. You know, it's like, I. Yeah.

[B]

So the POV there is very much like. Like, it can be. That's why there's lawyers, because you can argue the case both ways, you know, so that's why until, like, witnesses and stuff speak out, then I feel like you can kind of.

[A]

I mean, there's people, like, watching and stuff. People have, like, video. There's, like, one video, and it's like her, like, pulling Justin in and, like, see, she was, like, pulling him in and he looks uncomfortable. He's like, I don't know. He's, like, acting. I don't know what the scene is, but there's so much, like, footage of people, like, behind the scenes, like, on the streets filming this.

[B]

Yeah, because they didn't film it in public. So.

[A]

Yeah, so I was like, how is, like, more people not seen this? But I guess, yeah, if it goes to trial, then it becomes that.

[B]

But yeah, because I think there's just. There's got to Be more in there, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And also, like, on Tick Tock too, people like, I knew Taylor was just as bad as Blake. I'm like, all she said was, like, her friend script was going to feel.

[A]

That, like, he came into, like, their penthouse and like, Taylor Swift was there and was like, I really think these changes need to be made. Or what did she say? She was like.

[B]

She just said that she liked it. Her Blake script of the rooftop scene or whatever. But I'm like, Justin, you also said that you liked it. So Taylor, like, why am I going to be mad at Taylor for a grain? I think Blake is weird for being like, they're just like my dragons. Like, because that is kind of, like, intimidating, you know, like the biggest pop star and like Ryan Reynolds. You kind of like, do you think that happened?

[A]

Like, Like, Taylor Swift was in the penthouse. Like, I love this.

[B]

I think I could definitely see that happening. Like, her just being there and then Blake being. I feel like maybe the circumstances. This is just me, like, inferring based on reading it that maybe it was just like, like, not like an official, like, film production. Meaning it was like a casual, like, hangout. We'll talk about it. And then they are really close. Like, Taylor is like, basically the good godmother. Godmother to, like, Blake, Ryan's kids. That sounds crazy to me.

[A]

Like, you're just hanging out Taylor Swift and then you just stop by and love this script. Like, it's like, I mean, I guess that. I guess she's a real person, but it's just so funny. Like, I couldn't even imagine. And he said what? That was like an intimidation, like, thing, basically.

[B]

Yeah. That he was like, I guess intimidated into accepting Blake's changes. But he also said that it was. Is good.

[A]

Yeah. So it is, like, silly. That's what I'm saying. Like, some of the stuff gets, like, so silly. But it's. That to me is like, the entertainment part of it, because it is, like, so cringe. You're just like, what? But I guess everything I know because.

[B]

It'S like, that's why, like, all the evidence and stuff is heard. Like, wanting to hijack the film or whatever. Which is weird. Like, I agree with. That's weird. But also. So I'm saying we're losing, like, the plot, which is like, the point was, like, the harassment, right?

[A]

Yeah, I am.

[B]

And everything else. Her being cringy, her wanting to rewrite scenes, her wanting to take control of the production or whatever in the wardrobe. Like, the movie would have been the Movie regard. Like the movie was never going to be great. We're losing the plot. The book was not good. The movie was never going to be an Oscar winning film.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who cares? I don't care.

[A]

The wardrobe conversation is always so funny too. I'm like, like we just let her dress in that.

[B]

Like it is what? I don't know this. Did you harass her or not? Like just. Let's keep it there. I don't need.

[A]

I guess. Yeah.

[B]

180 pages of other stuff.

[A]

Wild. I don't get it. It.

[B]

I don't get it either. That's why, that's why I kind of am tapped out.

[A]

Or the harassment being like, did you show your wife giving birth or did you show like. You know.

[B]

Exactly. Yeah.

[A]

So why did you show your wife giving birth? Was it I guess for the scene? Is it for the scene?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not really. I don't know.

[B]

And like the breastfeeding stuff too. Like literally it's like no, like the evidence back and forth. It was like, well, she invited us into her trailer all the time where she was just hanging out and breastfeeding and her boob was out. And then they keep showing the one text, oh, I'm pumping. But yeah, you can come in.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Pumping and breastfeeding, very different. So like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why is the only evidence just that one text saying I'm pumping, you can come in. Why is there nothing else like oh, I'm breastfeeding right now, you know.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

So cuz you can pump and still be covered as far as I know. Right.

[A]

I'm not a pumper, so I don't know. Pumping sounds a lot. I don't know. Yeah. Breastfeeding is such a hot topic for people. I don't know. People are like, well, I don't know anything about that.

[B]

I, I. Cause I seen my like nephews and stuff when he was like an infant and like like walk like been in the living room and my sister in law would be pumping or whatever and she's like fully covered, you know, so.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I. It could probably be. That's what I would think would be Blake situation.

[A]

But what was the argument to begin with?

[B]

Like that he and the other producer would just walk into Blake's trailer when she was in different forms of like undress.

[A]

But who was like, was she saying that was harassment or he's saying like it was totally fine. This is what we always did that.

[B]

Blake is claiming that as part of, as of part of the.

[C]

Uncomfortable with that. Yeah, he's Saying, she said, it's fine. Come in.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, but the only text that says, come in is like, oh, I'm pumping, but you can come in. So that's what I'm saying.

[A]

That's. Yeah, that's so all of it's hard.

[B]

Yeah. So that's why I'm like, I just kind of need more.

[A]

I think we'll just never know. I think it's just never going to be full truth to anything. Like, I don't. I think, like you said, like, there could be, like, witnesses, but, like, people still won't, like, believe whatever. I mean, even like you said, like, designed by her. I mean, there was tapes and people still were like, well, no. And this. And, well, it's our this. It was defense. It was, you know. Well, they started it. They were drinking, whatever, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Defense for it.

[B]

People. I think a lot of people are going to have their opinions either way and won't be swayed no matter what.

[A]

You think it'll settle?

[B]

I don't know. I really don't know. Because it is such an insane amount of money. I think what he's showing her for 400 million.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A crazy number, I think, because the money, in my opinion, almost seems more symbolic than anything. Like, it's the most outrageous numbers to get, like, the headlines. But I think what is really at stake is some kind of reputation again. Will either of them be working as much? I don't think so, but I think to at least be declared a winner and the court of public opinion is like, what really is at stake in the most valuable.

[C]

Just a huge PR war between two big egos. And, yeah, it's a lose, lose situation and mainly our loss because we have.

[A]

To deal with here for it. I'm here except for the sad parts, but I kind of like the entertainment of it. The dragons, all. That's kind of.

[B]

I like the pr. Like, I guess like the PR war too, because it's like, not only Justin suing, you know, Blake, but it's also like the publicists are going at it, which is so insane. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

It's for people who have, like, mundane lives like us that I'm like, I get kind of invested because it's not me. If it wasn't me, I'm like, that sucks. But if it's like, you know, I have nothing else going on.

[C]

So people that are that, you know, like celebrities or people that are way up there, whether they're really wealthy or really famous, they live in a different reality. And in that reality, they do, like have the dragons and things. Like, there's nothing. It sucks that he's trying to shame her for speech speaking in a way that's so, like, I don't know, poetic or spiritual or whatever. Like there's nothing to it. There's nothing wrong about it. And you know, there's. These people are powerful. Like, if you think about Taylor Swift as a dragon, she is. She can go and move billions of dollars and billions of, like, she can do whatever she wants. She has power. So it's like they live in a different world. And for us to chime into those text messages, it's not for us and it's not our world.

[A]

Love the defense of Blake Lively, though. That's kind of everything. But.

[C]

And I'm not on her side. I think she's wrong. But. What. I wouldn't shame her.

[B]

No.

[C]

But I wouldn't shame her about that. Like, yeah, they live in that world and it's fine.

[A]

I think. Cuz it's so, like, silly to us. Like, it's just like not a real. Like, to us, it's not reality. Like, that's so crazy to me.

[C]

Right. But they detach themselves from reality with the fame and fortune and that's a world they live in. It's fine.

[A]

Taylor switching. Did she. Was she referring to Ryan and Taylor or is that just in?

[C]

That's the true dragon.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, confirmed.

[B]

He.

[C]

Well, when you follow the conversation, that's what it alludes too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love that I'm going to refer to you as you and Malibu and Elvis are my dragons.

[C]

You're the dragon and Elvis is dragon.

[A]

I'm the snake, mother of dragons.

[C]

Over here is the tiger.

[A]

Because I love how she phrased it too. It was just very much like, have.

[B]

You seen the show Game of Thrones? Oh, girl, come on.

[A]

If you ever get around to watching it.

[C]

No, but she's telling him, like, join our team. We're a powerful team. We'll be on your side.

[A]

That's what she said. Positioning him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You can also benefit from this. So.

[B]

Very, very corny. That's why, like every. I do get the entertainment factors too. I don't know. It's just the sexual harassment. I'm like, damn. Like, what actually is the tea? And I just. Yeah, it'll be a long time before any of that really comes out, I guess. But it's.

[A]

I mean, Brittany also said she was uncomfortable with Justin Baldoni hugging her. So I'm team Brittany. I'll believe her.

[B]

And then the video of Justin at The airport, and he was, like, all smiling and stuff. For the paparazzi. I'm like, this also makes me uncomfortable. They both. Everyone kind of makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see there's paparazzi of, like, Ryan Reynolds walking down the street. He was just looking serious, but I'm like, I don't even want to see that.

[A]

Serious. Yeah. Justin went the other route.

[B]

He's just like, hey, yeah, yeah. I don't know.

[A]

Was he at lax? I could have seen him. Maybe I was there.

[B]

I think he was at lax. It looked like it.

[A]

There is always, like, paparazzi out there. I always think I'm gonna see, like, a celebrity. There was a celebrity in front of me, but I couldn't recognize who it was. It looked like maybe Dakota Johnson or Anne Hathaway, because, like, the. The flight attendants are taking pictures with her, so.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah. This must be, like, a big deal. Right before we landed, and I was, like, trying to hear her voice, and I was, like, brushing my hair, so I set up, like, my camera so I could, like, look at myself. Brushed so I could see the brush. And I was trying to get her, but, like, it didn't come through, but she just had, like, bangs, you know? So I was like, I wonder who it was.

[B]

Dakota Johnson was on vacation.

[A]

Oh, maybe it was her. Maybe it was her. She. Because she was very, like, petite, and she had the bangs, and I was like, that's. And she was right in front of me. So she was watching Deadpool, and she was, like, sleeping most of the flight.

[B]

And I was like, maybe not Dakota Johnson. I could not imagine Dakota Johnson watching.

[A]

She was sleeping. Whoever was watching Deadpool fell asleep.

[C]

Because I'm surprised that people watch on airplanes. Look at what she watched.

[A]

That's true. Yeah. No, that blink twice is crazy. They wouldn't let me watch it on the way to the uk but let me watch it back. Like, the movie was, like, blocked or something. And then on the way back, they let me watch it, and I was.

[B]

Like, okay, she was in India with Chris Martin.

[A]

Well, maybe she did, like, a layover.

[B]

Makes sense. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Because she was photographed there on the 18th, so it's possible.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Maybe she was on my flight. I didn't know. I. I was trying. I was gonna sneak a picture. I'm like, that's weird. Let me not do that. But I wanted to, like, see if you knew, because I was like, Oscar probably could identify her.

[B]

Yeah. That is. Either would be gaggy. I love Anne Hathaway. As well.

[A]

And I thought it'd be for her, too. She's not gonna be playing Mother gothel. They said JLo's gonna be playing Mother Gothel in the. Is that real?

[B]

She. I think she liked a post saying JLO from Mother Gothel.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Like the live action. I would love that. That would be nuts.

[A]

That would be. You know what I thought was fake news this morning? And it was real. And I love that it was real. Addison Ray on the COVID of Rolling Stone.

[B]

I thought it was fake too. I had to double check. I was like, who tweeted this? And it was the proper pop craze.

[A]

I was like, wow, that's crazy. The COVID of Rolling Stone is actually insane. I guess she has a new album coming out this year. What is A one?

[B]

Love. I think that's what they. Is that the official name? I think because they call, like, you know, the albums. I guess you're gay. One would be like, TP what? 8O.

[A]

Is that what it is? Oh, like Addison Rachel AR1.

[C]

Oh, I thought it was a one. The sauce.

[A]

I love a one sauce. That sounds so good. Yeah. So I have TP8. I wonder what number album mine is going to be.

[B]

I know. I was going to say, I kind of lose track of how many.

[A]

We'll have to look it up. I don't know.

[B]

Oh, I did think of a. Before we get back to Addison, I can't forget. I did have a line for a song for you for, like, one of your gay songs.

[A]

Let's hear it.

[B]

Moses is making Bolognese. Going to eat it with my gays. That's all I have.

[A]

But how did you think of that? When did you think of that? Are you just, like, in the morning, at night, like, what do you think of that lyric?

[C]

What rhymes with gays?

[A]

I love it. Bolognese and gays is such a good one. That Sounds like a RuPaul song, too. Like, for my talent show. How did you think of that? Where were you?

[B]

This is the most, like, on brand thing ever. I was watching, you know, my friend, My friend Jenna expand her stream and she was trolling by not knowing how to pronounce Bolognese. And then I was like. I was like, bolognaise. And then she was. Kept saying things that rhyme with Bolognese and I was like, gay gaze.

[A]

Did you chime in?

[B]

No, Probably. I'm sure a lot of people did because it kind of sounds like bowl of gays is what I was thinking.

[A]

Because that's a good name for a Song too. A bowl of gays.

[B]

Because she was pronouncing it all these different ways, like bullock Nazi blogness. Yes.

[A]

Yeah, it is an interesting word.

[B]

So then I thought of bowl of gays. Oh my God. And then I was like, oh, that could be a Trisha song.

[A]

Okay, Done and done. That's a good line. I love that you just like thought of that during the Gen X pen livestream. Was that nighttime stream or daytime?

[B]

I think she was streaming at night, but I was watching it like the replay and in the morning.

[A]

Doing what?

[B]

What was I doing? Yeah, probably like cleaning or something.

[A]

Oh, so you don't just ever like sit and watch?

[B]

No, I'm like doing something, but I need something long right in the background while I'm doing a task because otherwise I can't do a task.

[A]

Mose listens to our podcast on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Yeah, he always like is listening to Jess Trish. I'm like, I hate it. Like, especially when be in the car. Like we drove up to Vegas and he. I'm like. Cuz he would think I'm sleeping, but I'm like, I still hear my voice.

[B]

Like I. I can't watch it back. I used to be able to watch it back, but I. When I edited it because I knew what I was going to say. But now that I don't know what I'm going to say. With Jimmy editing, I don't want to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're like, I don't want to see it, I don't want to hear it. Yeah, yeah, I'm the same. I don't like hearing back.

[C]

I guess. Say hi to everyone in the chat. We have a great community.

[A]

Yeah, but sometimes you're just like randomly doing stuff, listening to it. I was like, that's so random.

[C]

Also monitoring quality things, you know, sometimes times quality check.

[A]

Jimmy, watch out.

[C]

There's an audio glitch or suddenly blackout.

[A]

That's so funny. Well, we love that you love the.

[C]

Show and I want to see what Jimmy adds to the show.

[B]

That's true. You never know.

[A]

Yeah, the edits are so good. We love you, Jimmy. I gave him footage at like 10 o'clock last night and he had it done by like one in the morning.

[B]

I was like playing with him when the footage got delivered. He's like, oh, I have to go now. I just got the cards. I was like, okay.

[A]

I felt so bad. I was like, I am so sorry. I'm like, just get it done. Whenever. I don't have to be on time. And then I get a text like 1:52. He's like, it's done. It's like, that was fast. Love you, Jimmy. What's these? Putsies.

[B]

But yeah, without, I guess back to Addison. Yeah. The COVID I thought was like a fan made cover or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But yeah, official Rolling Stone cover. I'm excited to see what she does.

[A]

She's all pink on pink steps and.

[B]

Yeah. And blondes.

[A]

I love her. I'm so happy actually. Like, she does seem like she's gonna be like a big. I think this will be her year. Like blow up year. For sure. AR1 is gonna be.

[B]

Yeah. Especially like her group of friends now. Like, she's working with Charlie xcx.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Did you see? There was a video, I think it was when Addison did her remix of Von Dutch with Charlie. Like, it was Charlie like playing it for Addison. And Addison was like so casual on the couch. To Charlie XCX being like, love that. That's so cute. And I was like, love these girls.

[A]

I know. I love that too. I need a bestie like that. I need to find. Who could my bestie be? I don't know. No one's old like me. Everyone's so young. It'd be unnatural for me to be like, next to Sabrina Carpenter being like, love that. I don't know who I would be. Who's like a middle aged pop star that I could be friends with.

[B]

Maybe like Avril Lavigne.

[A]

Love. She checked on Heidi and Spencer. I love that. I was like, how you guys doing?

[B]

That's so cute.

[A]

Yeah, she seems really nice.

[B]

Yeah, she does seem nice. I love, like, even like Mandy Moore is staying with Hillary Duff right now.

[A]

Everything.

[B]

Yeah, I love that friendship. Love both Mandy and Hillary.

[A]

No, I. That'd be so cool to be friends with someone. Like, that's fun. I don't.

[B]

I don't. I guess I'm still manifesting me and Sydney Sweeney.

[A]

I feel like that's a big one.

[B]

It is big. Yeah. I don't. I keep throwing it out there. I'm like, maybe.

[A]

Yeah, maybe meet at the Met gala.

[B]

I always comment on Sydney's like, Instagram and I still get like. I like, I commented on one like months ago and I still get likes on it.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I'd be hyping her up in on her Instagram post.

[A]

What do you say?

[B]

Well, there was one where she posted about being like body shamed or whatever. Like she did a montage of like all these mean comments and then showed her in the Gym. And I was like, the fact that we are living at the same time as Sydney Sweeney getting body shame. We are so cooked.

[A]

Crying emoji of you.

[B]

And then she's in this new movie called the Housemaid or the Main. And it's a book. And I read that book, and I like the book.

[A]

And she's the star.

[B]

She's a star and producer with Amanda Seyfried.

[A]

Is it out?

[B]

It's just being filmed right now, but when she posts little updates, I always comment supporting.

[A]

I love. I love the hype on Instagram.

[B]

I'm here, Sydney, if you ever need a good gay. I feel like every girl needs a good hype gay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I will hype you up.

[A]

I feel like you're not gonna hype me up anymore. If you're gonna be with Cindy Sweeney, she's gonna start a podcast. Wait, I bet you're my hype. You're trying to apply for other people already. All right, I see how it is. I'm looking for a hype gay to be here if anybody wants to fill in.

[B]

I'm good at hyping up all the girlies. You are very good. Yeah. I'm the ultimate hype.

[A]

Because you laugh, you're smart. You can help with guided the direction too. You know, you have the taste, you know what the people want.

[B]

The PR degree.

[A]

Yeah. No, it is actually really. You are very smart because some people have, like, the sass, but not the, you know, the media training. And there's, you know, some people are really smart, but they're, like, boring, you know?

[B]

Well, you're my hype girl, then. Every. Yeah, it's like a. Every gay needs a hype girl. Every girl needs a hype gay girl forever. Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, number one fan of the vlogs. I'm always like, where's the next. Do you have one planned?

[B]

Coming up, I want to do a video where I rank YouTubers. Apologies, because I feel like that'd be kind of funny.

[A]

Oh, that's a good one.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I have to make a little tier list or something.

[A]

Who's number one? Are you?

[B]

Not the best one. I don't even know yet. I'm trying to think of the worst one.

[A]

I was gonna say, how do you rank it? Do you rank it best of the worst?

[C]

Because there's been a pattern, and it seems like nobody outdid Colleen, so she's. She's. She claimed that.

[A]

That was on Twitter. There was a tweet that was like, what was it?

[B]

Something about how she came out with the ukulele and. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And it's like, what was it? It was such a good.

[C]

That every or a year.

[A]

But no one topped this.

[C]

Since then. There's not been one.

[A]

I mean, like, it's a traumatic event, but also so camp to do a ukulele apology. You know what I mean? She's awful and horrible and, like, should not be, like, celebrated as, like, a master artist. But it was pretty that the thumbnail alone. Just that. Not a groomer, just a loser.

[B]

That was toxic. Gossip Train.

[A]

Catchy. Something that was crazy. I think it's like I just disassociated during that time. Like, I really did, like, black out so much of it. So it's like, I don't even. I remember. I remember we were driving back to pick up my mom from the airport. Maria Delver. Hey. And I just was like. I was just, like, shaking and just like, I was so confused. And it just was, like, so much to process because I think I was still talking to her at the time.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I think she sent it to me and I was like, I can't watch. Like, I don't know what this is.

[C]

No, she didn't even say anything.

[A]

It was just like, here's the video.

[C]

Take a look at this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, what do I say? And I didn't. I just. And then she, like, wouldn't leave me alone and she was, like, blowing up my phone and I was just like. I like, girl, I'm.

[C]

One day our kids will be in the club and this will be like a. There'll be a trans.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Version of that song.

[A]

Oh, my God. It was very true.

[C]

That kind of thing.

[B]

Yeah. Like a remix to it.

[A]

I wonder which is more trauma because I was talking about this on not Loveline today too. It's like when we talk about David Dobrik and how, like, it came back and gave me, like, like, literally, like, anxiety. Like, I started, like, shaking and I was like. I don't know which one is more traumatic, I guess, because the Colleen one is, like, more fresh. And that was like, you know, shocking. But, David, I was in it for such a long haul. You know what I mean? It was like a year long of, I guess, like, not knowing the psychological abuse of it all and just like, afterwards, coming out of it and being like, what just happened? I was like, shell shocks also.

[C]

You were. You know, it's an odd one because you were in a relationship with the whole group. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, yeah.

[C]

The person in a relationship with is the whole group, too.

[A]

Right. But the Colleen one was so shocking because it was such a whirlwind. It's like we started, like, three episodes, and she hyped me up so much, and it was just like, I love your body. I could never see one wrong thing about it. And to single those. It's just, like, such a. It's such a shock. It's just such. It's. It's so wild. But, yeah, that was a shot shock. The gaslighting, all of it was just. Okay. See, I'm. I start getting a little ptsd. I know people are like, don't use that term lightly. But I'm not, like, I start, like, kind of, like, shaking about it.

[B]

No, I. It makes sense, though, too, because it's also, like, in the era of, like, you had. She had a baby. You had a baby. It's like, in the era of, like, you coming out the other side, you know, like, you did all this work on yourself. You're, like, finally on the right path, and then all this happens. So you could also. You're, like, more present during. During the Colleen stuff because you're more, like, in your mind.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Versus, like, all the David stuff. You were like, that was a crazy time for you already.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Yeah. With substances and mental illness.

[A]

Yeah. Just out of my mind. And this one. I'm so insane mind. And I'm so, like, at peace. And I'm just like, what do I do? It's like a spiral. And I'm like, I don't know how to handle this. I don't know how to handle this. And it's like, it was. It was a lot.

[B]

Yeah. To be involved and also just be fully aware is like, yes, There is.

[A]

Something about being unaware. Actually, that was the plot of Blink Twice. He's like, forgetting is a great gift.

[B]

Tea.

[A]

Yeah. Not in the case of that movie. But it didn't make sense because she couldn't remember her traumas. And he's like, that's like a gift. And I was like, honestly? Yeah. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. Well, I wish everyone well. Far away from me. This is why I don't have friendships. And I tell everyone right away, like, I don't want friends. Like, do not try to be my friend. Do not. I don't want any of it. Just stay isolated forever. The toxic gossip tray. Catchy saying an apology. You look cool today in your Converse. You look like west side Story today.

[B]

Oh, I'll take it.

[A]

Yeah. The black pants with the white socks giving Michael Jackson.

[B]

Oh, I was gonna think Mike Feist.

[A]

Yeah, love Mike. Feisty. I can't wait to see the nominees when the Oscar nominees come out.

[B]

They keep getting delayed.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because the fires. So they keep. They kept pushing back the voting period. I think this coming week. It was supposed to be on yesterday, I think Sunday, I think, initially. And then they keep pushing it back.

[A]

I can't believe, like, Cynthia Rivo will, like, not win the Oscar. Like, that's actually so crazy because that's, like, the biggest movie and she's so good and so talented and doing so much, like, stunts and singing and, like, it's kind of crazy.

[B]

Yeah. I think there is talk. I don't know how valid this is, but, like, the industry, quote, unquote, is saying that, like, now after the fires, people are more likely to vote for Wicked for the awards because they want some kind of, like, positivity. Because I think a lot of other movies are very dark. So now Wicked's chances are increasing.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah. And also, I guess there was some AI used in the Brutalist and in Emilia Perez, which is. Is like, a lot of the creatives are upset about AI being used.

[A]

Not shiz. That was built from the ground up. Look at the behind the scenes of it.

[B]

There you go. Yeah.

[A]

That is crazy. It just, like, didn't win anything at that. What was it? Golden Globes. It's, like, so weird to me. Like, Demi Moore is probably a great actress and all of them is a great actress, but, like, she did everything. She was like stunt woman singing upside down, like, acting.

[B]

But Demi Moore was in that makeup chair for, like, nine hours or something, she said, which is crazy. Margaret Qualley said she had acne for. For a year because of the prosthetics that they put on her. They suffered from.

[A]

No, I mean, yeah, that's true, but they also had to be in that green pain.

[B]

That's true. She had a transformation. She got those ears, like, fake ears and everything.

[A]

She had to do a lot too. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anyways, I hope everybody wins. I hope everybody's a winner at the Oscars. And Oscar will be at the Oscars. No. Well, no, But Harry Daniels will be at the Oscars, probably.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Harry Daniels was so sad. Tick Tock was gone. He was, like, no longer talking. And he's my meme.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Period.

[B]

But it's. Oh, you know who else was really upset, though, is James Charles. Did you see him crashing out over.

[A]

Well, he had to. It was way back in. Right. How did he do that. He set the vpn. Was it Cardi B who did that too? She's like, I cracked a code, I had to get a VPN in Hawaii or something like that.

[B]

It was very odd. So yeah, the. As soon as Tick Tock went down, James's alts or like burner account was like revealed and he like already got 500000 followers like very quickly after like posting his first Tick Tock from there and he was like hiding under the covers and whispering as if like the FBI was like at his door or something. There was a campness to it. I did giggle. I hate to say it, I know it was funny. Yeah. But there's I think two theories. I think what's most reported right now is that he had someone in the UK post it for him. Like make the account and post it for him.

[A]

Oh, that's funny.

[B]

What makes the most sense?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so smart. I should have done that.

[B]

Yeah, like yeah. Oh yeah. You had all your UK contacts.

[A]

I should have stayed in the UK and kept posting that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So yeah, I was a day before.

[B]

And then there's like the other theory that like you could use a vpn but the account has to be made in one of the countries where it's legal. Like if it's made in the UK and then it has to have like a number associated it associated with the account guys. And then you could use it here with the vpn but it has to be made at the country like so.

[A]

Like they set it up over there and then send it to you.

[B]

Yeah, like some people. There's someone I follow who like May is Canadian and like lives in America but like made his Tick tock in Canada. So he still had access to it because he could VPN from Canada because it depends where it's made.

[A]

The hacks are so smart. Oh my gosh. But then do you like just see? You don't see. Obviously there's no American influencer.

[B]

So yeah, so it's a lot quiet. So everyone, like all the non Americans are like, wow, it's so quiet here now.

[A]

Like what are you even watch over? And like because people in the UK were telling me their whole timeline is Americans, which is so odd because we were always talking like we never see people in foreign countries so I always thought they just gave us like United States people because we're the United States, but we never see people in like Germany or anything.

[B]

That's true. I wonder what like the ratio of like users in each country is because what here is like 170 million Americans use tick Tock or something so crazy. Yeah.

[A]

How many Americans live in America?

[B]

That's a good question. Let me see.

[A]

A billion. Three billion. Because you know, McDonald's always has like serving 3.4 billion. It's like, is that how many people's in America?

[B]

334.9 million.

[A]

334 million. So why does McDonald's say they serve 3.4 billion?

[B]

Because they're around the world.

[A]

Well, it's not good other places, so I don't know why they're serving that many. Wow, that's crazy. Good for you. Do you think the person who like founded McDonald's, do they get all the money?

[B]

They must, right? Like even if different like franchises are made, they get all the franchise money, I would think, right? Or not all of it, but like a good chunk. Cuz it's like their creation, I would think.

[A]

Do you ever watch the movie about the guy who's driving McDonald's? Right.

[B]

Super size Me. Oh, you made it. I thought you said ate it when you made it.

[A]

No, it has Michael Key in. I forget his name. What was it? Roy Founder. Was that his name? I don't know. Roy something.

[C]

Not good with names.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He started McDonald's.

[A]

It's pretty crazy. I was like, that's pretty impressive. He believed in the 25 cent burger, not 25 cents anymore.

[B]

But isn't it crazy that there's like. I don't, I heard this. I don't know like how science. Maybe Moses will know. But like, isn't there like a. A specific combination of like the salt or like whatever fatty thing that they make that they put in the faster, that makes it addictive. Isn't that like a big general.

[C]

I think that's really. You didn't like it in the uk? Yeah, because I remember even in and out when you were pregnant, you know, I was. I always look up things and there's like 27 chemicals in like one.

[A]

God, why did you look that up?

[C]

And you're like, okay, there's a reason.

[A]

That was wild.

[C]

It tastes like so, you know, good at the moment moment or something.

[A]

Why would you look that up? It's so weird. While I was eating it, you're like, well, let me see how many chemicals she's eating. Like I'm eating it.

[B]

So it makes sense.

[C]

Why when you were pregnant, but you.

[A]

Never said anything to me. You never were like, you're eating 27 chemicals a day. And I was like, okay. He's like, why did he know for me. I didn't tell you if you ate.

[C]

It three times a day every day, but no anything excessive. But you don't.

[B]

Excessively.

[A]

You've been making me the Kraft Mac and Cheese. I'm surprised you make me that.

[C]

Yeah, if you have it once a month, it's not a big deal.

[A]

I've been eating it a lot. Someone told us it was like, toxic, the powdered cheese and.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Someone said it was like, not good for you.

[B]

I guess it makes sense. Thinking about, like, it is powdered cheese that's out all the time, so it is so good.

[A]

Favorite thing at the moment, craft Mac and cheese.

[B]

It's good. I haven't had it in so long, but love.

[C]

Yeah, she has the spirals.

[A]

Yeah, you have the spirals. Rs not as good. Make it in a pot. That's a whop. That's a whop. Remember that tik tok sound?

[B]

I do.

[A]

I do recall so good, man. I do love a Mac and cheese. What are we trying for our next kitchen to Cheesecake Factory or what we're going to do?

[B]

Oh, yeah, we keep saying Cheesecake Factory.

[A]

Yeah, they have a lot of Valentine's Day stuff out too now. Like Chick Fil a has the heart shaped and the pizzas are heart shaped places.

[B]

Oh, I love heart shaped anything.

[A]

Me too. But when is Valentine's Day?

[B]

Oh, for the 14th turn up quickly.

[A]

Too quickly. No gifts this year because I can never think of anything for Moses. So we are not doing gifts. Gifts. No gifts at all?

[B]

Not even like a little boob basket situation?

[A]

That sounds like a lot of work.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

He has to leave the house for like an hour. And I'm just like, ugh, don't leave the house. He leaves for long. When you go do an errand, you're gone for like five hours.

[B]

And I'm like, well, you do a lot. Like, you'll do all your errands at once, right?

[C]

Yeah, I'm sure they'll be out for five hours.

[A]

You are. Then you're doing canned fish review. I'm just like, I don't know where is that? Because he'll be like, oh, I'm going to the store. But then it's like three hours later. And then I see tiktoks and I'm.

[B]

Like, okay, Darian wants to be a tiktoker too now. Yeah.

[A]

What's he gonna do?

[B]

What's funny though, is he he ordered like one of those cases that sticks to a mirror. And this was like, when the the date for TikTok getting banned was, like, set. And I was like, he bought it like, two days before the band.

[A]

And I was like, I'm starting.

[B]

You know that band is starting on Sunday, right? He's like, it's getting like he had no idea for some reason. I don't know how it lives under a rock somehow, but. And then he did got banned and he was kind of sad about it. But it's funny, though, because he was watching back our, like, video and he's like, he thought his energy was out of 10. Like, he thought he was giving.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you know it was low?

[B]

I knew it was. He has, like a presenting voice. Like, when he's being perceived, he talks very slow and monotone. And I've made fun of him for this since, like, we started dating. Because I remember we were like, he came to visit once and he had like an online. Oh, no, he had like a work, work zoom call or something. And his voice was like, hello, my name is Darian. Like, it was so different.

[A]

How is it?

[B]

Normally he taught, like, influent, like, inflections, like, up and down. It's like a little gayer, I guess. But his presenting voice is like, more like monotone deep.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then he. I could tell he. He has some jokes in there, but he was just saying them. So, like, low and monotone.

[A]

Did you like it? Do you think he's funny on camera?

[B]

I think he's funny in real life. But, like, he is so Moses.

[A]

So funny because, I mean, and people do think was funny, which I love. I love it. Like, we love Moses jokes. I love it. Great. But it is funny because to me, you are. I think you're different too. Like, I think. I mean, I like, I think you're cute no matter what, but I think in real life, you're so funny. And then. Yeah, like, on camera. I mean, you're great on the podcast. I'm just saying, in general, I can never film together because I'm like, I don't know. I was like, I don't know.

[C]

I'm like, there is an evolution to it, you know, like, it will take him time to evolve, to understand what it means to be on camera. Because, like, when we started just making event, like, eating in the car, car, I wasn't thinking about. I'm a participant in a video. I'm just. I'm eating right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So she would. She would drive the whole conversation. I wouldn't even ask anything back. Or, like, I wouldn't think about It. Oh, we're need to spark a conversation here.

[A]

Every comment's like zero chemistry. He hates her, not into her. Like it's.

[B]

Yeah, he looked like Darian looked like I held him at gunpoint.

[C]

I was gonna say yes.

[B]

I knew as I was was editing this, I was like, people are gonna watch this and think meanwhile it was his idea. I was like, damn. I'm like, I know exactly what people are gonna think. He just looks so serious. And I'm like, people are literally gonna think I have like a gun behind his back to film this.

[A]

But that's not on camera.

[B]

But he has the same thing.

[C]

He has to see it. He has to be aware of himself. He has to. Like even seeing yourself in 3D and video is different.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Cuz when you look at yourself in your mirror, you always look at yourself in the same angle angle. So you're actually not even aware of what you really look like until you see yourself on video.

[B]

Yeah, that's what he says. Like you and Trisha have years of media training. Like this is New York.

[A]

I love media training. No, I mean, yeah, it's hard. Even when I'm in other people's videos, I feel like I'm like awkward and weird because it is just a different thing.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Like he did good, I thought.

[B]

Yeah. And then Oscar crave made him like a little fan cam. So that hyped him up to make get ready with me.

[A]

Watch. So did he post his first tik tok?

[B]

Not yet. He said he's gonna try on. He hasn't left the house yet because his school has been home because of the fires. Because it's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think on Tuesday is the first time he's going out. So I think Tuesday is when he is hoping to film it. But he's also very much a perfectionist. So I don't know how that's going to go for him.

[A]

What's a sign?

[B]

He's a Taurus.

[A]

Oh, interesting. There's a lot of Taurus productions. Not me. I'm like the most opposite perfectionist. I. I like one and done. Whatever comes out comes out. Like I hate when people refractionist. Oh, we gotta do this. Oh, it's gotta be this. And it's like, no, I'm done. Just stop. Just stop everything. Like yeah, it's.

[B]

He's interesting too because I consider myself somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to like work stuff or whatever. But for him it's like he can't even like go to the gym if his hair is not done. And I'm like, I cannot live like that. Yeah.

[A]

I respect people like that, though. Like, people do want to always look so good. I'm like, I do respect it. Could never.

[B]

Could never be me either. Yeah.

[A]

Never be me.

[B]

He's.

[C]

But if his content is about esthetics, then that's true.

[A]

Good point. He's a beauty guru. He's a morning routine.

[B]

He says the, the underclassmen or whatever they're called in college. I don't know, like the non grad school people, they. He has a reputation. They all think he's stylish. He says. He said someone told him, like, one of his classmates told him that, like, oh, all the, the undergrad people think that you're really stylish. And now he's like really feeling it. Y'all be hyping him up a little too much.

[A]

But no, he is cool. I remember exactly what he's wearing at the show. He had the white. White, like fitted muscle tank. And then you had the pink slacks with like, white.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I did think that was a pretty slay outfit.

[B]

Yeah. But he has the, the tiny privilege though, too. So I'm like, damn. He. Not this becoming like a relationship podcast, but. So I think you'll have a funny. A similar reaction to me. He was like, we were walking by the mall, in the mall, and he was like, randomly disrespect by Khloe Kardashian's opening Good American in the mall. And he was like, oh, maybe they'll finally have my size. She's like, everyone wants to be like, about size inclusivity. But what about the small people? I was like, oh, my God. He's like, the bigger people always get the representation. But what about. I was like, I was like, you need to walk that back.

[A]

Oh, my God. Did you tell him that too? That is very focus coded. He'll say things so out of pocket.

[C]

And I'm like, never about that though.

[A]

No, not outside, but some crazy stuff. I'm like, don't say that on the podcast. What are you talking about? Like, because you're also like unaware of sometimes thing. I'm like that. No, that's not. I mean, you're very smart, but there are some things where I'm just like.

[C]

I. I say to rile her up, because I know that's not true.

[A]

No, there are so many times I pointed something out. You're like, okay, I didn't think about it like that.

[B]

It killed me. Cuz I think he. Where Were we? I think he was at Zara or something and couldn't find his size and pants or whatever because he has a. He has his. His plight. His plight. His big struggle. The cross that he carries is that. That his waist is too small. Yes.

[A]

Wow. So what is he, 30?

[B]

I think he's a 28, maybe, or like a 29.

[A]

That is why I just think every man is a 34. Like, everyone I met is a 34. And they're all, like, different sizes. Like, how's everybody at 34? That is crazy. But that's.

[B]

Yes, it is insane how, like, small he is. But I'm like, just shop in, like, the junior section then, I guess. But he refuses, so.

[A]

Well, that's wild.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your section. He's gonna wear an Iron man shirt or what?

[B]

Well, like, in bands or whatever, you know, because he can't find his size and pants usually, but. But, oh, man, that is his plight. But it was so funny when he said that. It was like, what about the size of gloves?

[A]

He gets canceled in his first TikTok out, and he's like, we.

[B]

Apology video incoming.

[A]

Yeah. Then you have to do it. Recreate the thumbnail. That's so funny. Darian, we love you. I love that he's a Taurus.

[B]

When's his birthday? April 23rd. Yeah, April 23rd.

[A]

It's four days before Jonathan Bailey's birthday. We love Taurus energy. Yeah, I do love a good Taurus. That's for sure. Yes.

[B]

I thought of you, actually, because there was a new documentary on Max about the. The Stauffers, who. The ones who adopted and then rehomed.

[A]

Did you watch it?

[B]

I haven't watched it. Yes. It's three episodes only the first episode is out so far of the documentary.

[A]

You should tell me. I would watch these things. Like, whatever you watch, I'll watch so I can talk about it, too.

[B]

I'm waiting. The first one. I watched it this morning, actually, because I read an article about it. I was like, let me see what they actually say. So the first episode, no one gets you hyped yet, because I think eventually they. They interviewed the family that adopted their kid. But this first one is all very much the setup of, like, who they are. Who the Stauffers are. So if you guys aren't familiar, James and Micah Stauffer, they are. They were family vloggers who adopted a baby from China and then ended up rehoming, I guess is the right word. They're the child they adopted three years afterwards because. Because he had Developmental issues. And they couldn't handle those.

[A]

But they did know he had those when he was adopted. They like specifically wanted that in a child.

[B]

They went, the adoption agency, they went with like that's the what they say. Like they say when you adopt from here, like these children have different behavioral, developmental needs. So they did go to this agency knowing that there's like vlog footage too.

[A]

Of them being like, we want this. Like we want to be able to take care of someone who has like they play clips.

[B]

Cuz this is a whole era that I was so unfamiliar with. Like I remember hearing about like maybe the headline, but I didn't know them. I didn't. I don't really watch like family vloggers at all either. So this whole genre is kind of like new to me. But yeah, they literally sit down in the vlog and they say, I think they went through like the checklist. They said there, there could be a hundred. There was 100 issues on the paperwork that they had to sign that they could say they could deal with these issues. And me and my husband, women could deal with 99 of them. So they were like very, very confident going into this adoption that they could.

[A]

Fully aware.

[B]

Yeah. Also I didn't know this too, but they specifically went to China and the specific adoption agency because it was a faster turnaround, because they wanted it quick. So she said, Micah said in all this vlog, on the vlogs, the whole thing is documented, which is nuts.

[A]

Crazy. Yeah. Documentation of all of it.

[B]

Yeah. She said in this vlog, she's sitting down and she says like, you know, we went to different social worker, social workers and adoption agencies in America and all of them had really long timelines and they all said if you want it done fast, then you should look at adoption agencies in China. So she specifically went to this one for it to be like, quicker.

[A]

Do they say why they wanted it quickly?

[B]

No, she had a miscarriage like prior. And I think too she was getting so much, much like they showed all these comments she was getting about like, if you want more subscribers, have more babies. So they kind of have. The documentary obviously has some bias, but that's kind of the angle of like the more children she has, the bigger her family gets, the, the more success she has in her channel. So they kind of equate that. Obviously they're not involved in this documentary. They did reach out, but they never heard back.

[A]

Where are they? They just like left.

[B]

Yeah, so they kind of left the Internet after this happened I believe 2020 is when they made the announcement that their son was with a new family. And after that, Micah disappeared off social media and Internet altogether. But I believe her husband James has a car channel.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And that is still somewhat active. Like, he still does. He, like, fixes them up or something.

[A]

I. I mean, like, what. All these family vloggers at that time, like, I was so unfamiliar too. Like, they all turned out to be like actual, like, evil, like, devil, like the Ruby Frank and like, these people, because it's one thing, you know, but like, to. To adopt a child saying, like, you're ready. You know, they have all these, like, you know, special care and special needs and stuff like that. And then to, like, send that one back, like, they're going to have more issues because of that. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, it's double evil to send that back because it's like they know you as their home, and now they're getting taken away from their home. Like, it's. And what was the child. Was he four or five?

[B]

I think maybe he was three or four. Yeah.

[A]

When he got rehomed.

[B]

Yeah. Because they had. They were with him for three years. That's also a long time.

[A]

But that's such a long time because I get like, not bonding right away or not figuring it out, but like, three years, you figure it out, you have a system, you know what he needs, and then you're just like, okay, too much. We can't handle it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are they religious?

[B]

Yeah. Because they get. Again, this is all like, in the vlog, the Sit down, she picked a name and everything for her son before she picked the baby. And she sits down, she's talking about how she goes through the profiles, and she saw this one photo of a little boy. And before even, like, looking for the, like, the details, like, the references and all the information about him just from, like, the profile photo, she said. She said she'd asked God to give her a sign that this is her son. And then she clicked the profile, and then she said the sign was in the profile from God. So I think she is clearly, like.

[A]

Religious, which is like, all the more like, those are the people who, like, pray on it and pray for strength and, like, get him through and, like, help them raise this child. Like, that's the wildest thing when you're so religious, to be like, okay, let's hand this child back, this child of God that you, like, prayed for. And then all of a sudden you're just like, I can't. Because, like, people who are Religious. And like I consider myself pretty religious, whatever, like, but like you know, like God gets you through everything. Like God can provide. He doesn't put you in circumstances you can't handle. So it's just like, like that's even more odd. It's like you got this sign from God. You saw it in his profile and you're religious, right? So you're like, wow, I saw it. God sent me a sign and you're just going to get that sign back. Like that's the most wild thing. That's why I think some of these people are just crazy and you use religion as like their little like shield or whatever, but they're not actually. Cuz if you thought if you had a sign from God you saw him appear, you wouldn't just like throw it away.

[B]

And it's odd too, cuz again in the, in the prior videos when she talks about like picking him out and stuff, she, she talked about how she knew about the, the issues that he had and a doctor advised her and her husband that he had significant issues. And the direct quote was, but if anything, my child is not returnable. And that was in 2017. She said that like before the adoption was like finalized and stuff. So that quote kind of obviously lived to haunt her. And I guess she did document like the struggles that she had had like with Huxley. And so I guess maybe, I don't know, like her, I guess her side of the situation, like there was blogs that she was writing about how like one was around Mother's Day. She said like this is the hardest Mother's Day ever. She kind of blogged a little bit about her issues raising him. And she did talk about how she 100 or 500 feels like a failure of a moment after she returned. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

She has other kids, right?

[B]

Yes. And that she also said too that it wasn't just like her struggling. Like she didn't specify the incident, but she kind of insinuated that there were some incidents with like the other kids in Huxley. And she said we would never just give up a child with special needs. This is a personal matter to Hux. It had nothing to do with just with. He just had autism. Multiple scary things happen inside the home towards our other children. And if these events happen with one of our biological kids after all the help and after the behaviors we witness, sadly we would have no other choice than to seek help and get their needs met.

[A]

But I feel like they could have done that for him, right? Like give him, getting him help somewhere rather than Just like, re home him completely.

[B]

I know they made it seem like they did try. Like, they did get. She said that she got medical training, but his new mom is like, a medical professional. So she said that it's. They're better equipped to handle it.

[A]

But all this is like, just. You don't have to put everything on the Internet, like, when it comes to, like, adoption and these young kids, like, this is why you don't put them on the Internet. Because now everyone's judging you. Everyone's, like, feeling bad for this kid. This kid already has issues that he didn't ask for because you're airing them all out. You know what I mean? It's just like, already, like, just such a bad. It's like their children. And when the children have problems, like, it's like, why are you airing that? Like, I've seen so many people. People, like, talk about, like, you know, their kids, like, you know, not. What was the one. Someone's like, their kid. They smelled poop and the kid had, like, poop all over his face. And I'm like, why are you putting that, like, out on the Internet? Like, that's so like.

[C]

The kid fell asleep holding. Holding it. So the mom is, like, looking around the room. So basically she knows where it is. It's like we smell it, but we can don't know where it is. And then she zooms in and shows the kid sleeping.

[B]

Oh, she shows it.

[C]

She shows the kids sleeping, holding poop.

[A]

And I'm like, so gross.

[C]

Like, why does the kid need to have that forever as his, you know, online signature for Forever?

[A]

No, I know. Like, there. There has to be some sort of, like, laws. Like, I mean, you should. That seems a little bit like child abuse. A little bit to like, show that, you know, it's almost like humiliation or something. It's like they're a child. I don't know. It's very odd. People are one. And this kind of feels the same way. It's kind of like, okay, he has issues. And they like, maybe there was issues, but it's like, why are you airing that out for, like, everyone to know?

[B]

It was weird in general. Like, again, seeing this and the documentary has, like, specific clips. Again, they're just clips, so it's kind of out of context. But, like, it has the whole, like, screenshot of, like, what the page looked like at the time. And, like, you know, they have, like, little hashtags under the channel that you can put, like, under the video. Her, like, the hashtag for the series was like, Hashtag bring Hux home. And it was like a whole series, like, I think it was like Chinese adoption series or whatever. So, like, it was.

[A]

It's content.

[B]

It's weird that it's content like from the jump, like before you even pick out your kid, because they show a lot of clips and the family seems sweet. Like, she seems like a sweet mom. At first I kind of vote back because I'm like, damn, she looks sweet. Like, well intentioned, you know. But then all of a sudden, as her channel was growing, they talked about how she started making three. Three more channels. And then it was like more and more and more.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So it is very, very interesting. And it's kind of narrated by. There's like a viewer who was watching at the time. Time. And she's kind of like giving the context as like someone who was a fan of the channel. And she also was adopted. So she kind of liked that perspective when it was happening. Like, oh, it's kind of like if my mom adopted me, you know, so.

[A]

Right. Kind of showing. Which is like, great. But then when it goes wrong, don't throw the kid under the bus. It's like so narcissistic to be like, no one didn't know that. She's like, just trying to save her reputation. Being like, well, the reason we gave him away is because he was like, there was stuff with our other kids that he was doing. It's like, jeez.

[B]

Yeah, she said that in a comment after, like, people were like, leaving negative comments.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Yeah. And to like, they posted that update about like rehoming Huxley because all her fans were like, why haven't you shown, like, where is Huxley? Like, why haven't you shown him?

[A]

So like, oh, actually he's not here anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, again, you don't have to answer every comment. You don't have to like, fill everybody in on everything. It's like the Nikki Phillip. I too, when she, like, found out she couldn't vlog her adoption or she couldn't vlog, what was it like the kid for the first year that she adopted from somewhere.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

So we decided not to. Like, that's crazy. Like, they should make it a rule like 10 years before you can show your adopted kid. You know what I mean? Like, and she was like, mad after one. I'm like, you're wild. You wanted a kid literally for content. That's wild. That's crazy. Like, if they passed a law tomorrow. I was like, never. You can never show your Kid on social media, they're 18. It's like you would abide by that. You wouldn't just be like, actually, I don't want a kid. Like that's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, it's a good point.

[A]

These people are wild and like you said, they're just like normal. They look kind of normal. You know, even that Ruby Frankie. I mean obviously I didn't watch her vlog vlogs but like seeing the vlog, she was not normal. But you just kind of look like, you know, they're just like normal people.

[B]

At least like the Frankies. There was weird moments in the vlogs that people were like, this is weird. Why is your kid sleeping on a bean bag? You know?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like with the Stauffers, they just presented, as far as I know from like the clips that were in this doggy series, I guess, like they were just like so all American. Like they're both attractive, attractive, like cute kids, you know. She was very open about her miscarriage too, so people could like relate to it. There was so much investment. And then obviously like an adoption journey too. I feel like it's something that's unique, you know, and it's also like admirable. Oh, you're saving a kid basically, you know, inspiring. Yeah. So I get why people would be invested. Like it does kind of feel good, I guess. But I think maybe it's hard cuz I have the context of what happens to Huxley. So watching these clips, I like feel almost ominous. But maybe if it had a happy ending, I would, I don't know, feel.

[A]

Different watching it like in the moment.

[B]

And you're like, yeah, because watching it now, I'm like, oh, this is really creepy.

[A]

You see it after. Yeah, you always see after and you're just like, oh, that was like science. Well, even like the Ruby Frank. I mean when people were watching those vlogs and did people say nothing at the time when she said like, oh, my daughter forgot her lunch. I hope no one gives her food because she needs to learn her lesson. I was like, there's like a six year old daughter who forgot to pack her lunch. I'm like, that's. Was no one saying anything like, are these kids okay?

[B]

I think if I remember correctly, some, some people were like, they had, they did have like people who are watching that didn't. But there were some that like would even like call child services and stuff too. Because I remember like once the kids were able to like break free and get out. Like there's some people like, yeah, I've been called. I've been trying to get child services to look into this for years and stuff. So.

[A]

I think family vloggers just need to take a little. Little break. I mean, I guess it's good, but I don't know.

[B]

It is a little.

[A]

There's something kind of weird about it. Just like.

[B]

Yeah. Even like, Ryan's World, because they showed clips from Ryan's World in this docu series too. Again, I've never seen it, but they showed, like, the beginning of Ryan's World, you know, before it was a huge production.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And there was one clip where, like, Ryan is sleeping in, like, his race car bed and then they, like, film him. They go wake him up and film him waking up. And I'm like, that seems kind of weird to, like, go wake up your kid and film it as a video a lot.

[A]

That's a lot. Yeah.

[B]

And obviously he's okay. As far as we know, you know, known, very successful. But, like, it is kind of odd.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's a. It's an interesting thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. My Malibu loves to watch, like, kids play with toys, like on YouTube. She'll, like, watch, like, little, like, kids just playing with frozen toys. And they get, like. They get like 50 million, 100 millions of views on these videos. I mean, that is pretty cool. And like, I guess it's like a cool job for those kids. They just get to play with toys and stuff. And the kids love it, but because it is. It does look fun. I'm like, oh, the sheep, like, love to make those videos. But there's kind of something weird about it, I guess. I don't know. Maybe not. I'm so torn with it obvious. Obviously we wouldn't do like, a full. They have full production for these kids, but it's. It's interesting. They just play with these toys.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Same I kind of struggle with. Obviously, I'm not a parent yet, so I. I feel like once I have kids, I feel like I'll be able to have a more strong opinion about it. I think it was just weird. I think like a. A kid being vulnerable and then filming that, like, raw or whatever, that kind of makes me more uncomfortable versus, like, you know, kids, like, presenting or, like, being silly and cute or whatever. Because I've got like, anti. Showing my kid. Because it's like, you. It's your kid. Like, you're. It's just a happy moment.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't know, I feel like that's like more wholesome. But I think like disturbing a kid or like, I don't know, when the kid is not aware. That just felt weird to me. I think there's obviously Ryan's world now is like he's. It's like more production.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it was like an 8 year old video where he just gets waking up and you're filming him right away.

[A]

That's kind of weird to like wake him up. It's like Melvin was very much like if she wants to film, she will like have the camera and stuff like that. But like, even if I'm filming and I'm not even filming her, she'll let him know. No, no, no. And you know like I just like, you know. So like she just like knows. But yeah, a lot of times she like sets it up. She just plays even if we're not recording. She just like. Her favorite thing is the Snapchat filters. Obviously we don't post her Snapchats, but like at the restaurant she loves to.

[B]

Go through like, look at herself.

[A]

Oh my. She. And it's so funny.

[C]

Funny faces.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

She like sit and do different filters and she's like. And she's so interested in it because like, where is it? Like, is it on my head? Is it actually like, you know, there'll be a cat on her should elder. So she's trying to figure it out.

[A]

She laughs and then she like will eat her french fries with her Snapchat filter on. It's very, it's very cute. It's very funny how it is. It is such a different generation. Because even Elvis, like they see these phones, right? And they think it's like, that's the thing you need to get like Elvis like lunges for a phone and map. We really love phones too. It's just funny because we didn't grow up with like our parents on cell phones. So they probably think like, what is this device? Why is everybody like holding it?

[C]

Any screen would be magical to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I remember like even in high school, a friend just had this small tv. It was like this portable tv. And I was just like, this is the most magical thing in the world.

[B]

Yeah. I remember like portable DVD players like when those were new. Yeah.

[A]

But even like think about like FaceTime. Like she's always like, now she gets it. But just like in shock to see like, you know, grandma and Grandpa and like FaceTime check. Oh my gosh. You know, she gets like so excited. It is such a weird. It's such different with technology. Growing up with it. But because they sell like playing play play toy phones for like literally six month old babies, you know, and they're just like these little iPhones that they play with. It's just so, so funny. I mean, they're not like screens, but they just look like an iPhone and they love it. The iPhone world. What is it? Generation? Oh, Generation Alpha. I think it's over now. I think it's now generation beta for 2025. We're in a new generation.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

So we're the millennials. We're like the equivalent of the boomers.

[B]

I know that everyone keeps making like, oh, oh, millennial jokes or whatever. Oh, you're so millennial was like, oh, my God, we are fully.

[A]

Gabby was the ultimate millennial on that reaction video. She was so good. I loved it. Should we try these?

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's a good idea.

[A]

Okay. It says. Oh, it's funny. It says no nasty artificial colors or flavors.

[C]

They're calling us nasty here.

[A]

I don't know if you like these. You want to try one, babe? They're kind of yogurt.

[C]

I love gummies.

[B]

You smell good.

[A]

She said these are like the thing. The Percy Pig. Should it taste like yogurt or something?

[C]

No, I think. I mean, I had it. I get it. You had it at the world Market.

[A]

Oh, little pigs. Oh, my God. Shane Dawson is quaking right now. He's like, that's my brand. That's my brand. Oh, just like Laffy Taffy. I like it. What do you think? Oh, my God. I don't even know how to read this. What is this on the back?

[C]

There's. There's one that looks like bunnies. I like it better.

[A]

That looks like bunny. What is. I don't even know. Is this a foreign language or am I just like, what? Where like surveys, values, Moyon energy, the facts. It doesn't say like calories.

[C]

Maybe they have it.

[B]

Oh, you're right.

[A]

Right. But even the English stuff, it's like, what does that mean? Typical values. Whatever is that.

[B]

It's pretty good though.

[A]

I like them.

[B]

I like it cuz I don't like super sweet things.

[A]

It's not super sweet. None of their candy is. Their Skittles were also like that. I guess they just are healthy over there. There wasn't a lot of fat, fat British people.

[B]

Are people skinnier over there?

[A]

They're skinny. But they did tell me there was some fatties. If you go to the country.

[B]

Oh, my God, like, go north.

[A]

I was like, all right. Like, yeah, we're Not. But. But up north, they're fat. I was like, all right.

[C]

They banished them to another.

[A]

Yeah. Literally. I was like, all right. Okay.

[B]

That's pretty good, though. Yeah. Thank you so much.

[A]

It's so good. I loved her. She made me feel secure. You guys, I love you. Guess what? There is a new year coming up. When does it start? Year of the snake? Is it January? So don't worry. We get a reset if 2025 hasn't been working for you. There's a Chinese New Year coming coming up.

[B]

The 29th.

[A]

29Th. It's upon us and we are going to have a better year. So just think of this as like a little trial run for the end of the year. Year of the snake comes. I believe in the Chinese New Year the most. Good luck. Wear red. Find a snake. Actually, snakes were a big part of Blink Don't. What is Blink Twice? Yeah, there was the snake venom is what makes them remember. So if they got bit by a snake, they remembered. Plot twist. Kyle McLaughlin is in that movie. He is in every movie and it's a weird movie. And I'm like, what is he doing in here? And he has such a weird small part. I love him. I need him on the podcast anyways. All right, that's it. Love you guys. Timothy Chalamet, complete unknown, is out now. That's all we talked about yesterday on that Loveline. Was just him. Mose took his headphones off. He's like, I'm done. Okay.

[C]

I'm getting ready for the next.

[A]

Name one Bob Dylan song and then we'll wrap it up.

[C]

Do what?

[A]

Name one Bob Dylan. Sing one Bob Dylan song.

[C]

Hey, Mr. Tambourine.

[A]

Is that Bob Dylan?

[B]

Yellow Submarine.

[A]

That's.

[C]

No, no. Tambourine.

[B]

Oh, tambourine.

[A]

Hey, Mr. Tambo. Is that him? I thought it was like, Tiny Tim. Play a song for me. For the sinners in the. Is that Bob Dylan? Really? Okay. That's the only one I know. I don't think I know any other one.

[B]

I don't know a single one.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

Probably do. If you hear them, maybe.

[A]

Do you know another one or. No, that's it. Isn't that crazy?

[B]

I'll blow it in the wind. Did they cover that on Glee?

[A]

Definitely. Chris Christopherson, I thought. Did that song the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

[B]

Make you feel my love. Is that Bob Dylan?

[A]

How's that? Are you just looking up songs or.

[B]

Is it Bob Dylan? Glees to see. I will know about Dylan song if it was on Glee. They did cover Mickey Fit My Love. So I do know that one. Oh, that was for Cory Monteith. I definitely know that. Oh, Forever Young.

[A]

That seems like not him. Forever Young. I want it. That's like 80s, I feel. Do you really want to live forever? That's a good song. Who sings that? That's a great song.

[B]

I know it is. Bob Dylan.

[A]

He sings Forever Young.

[C]

No, not that version. Definitely not that.

[A]

Right. You know, it's like Bruce Springsteen. Not that, but it's like someone from the 80s with that voice. Forever Young.

[C]

Yeah. I think it was like a one hit wonder.

[A]

Okay, well. Riveting. I woke up at literally 4:00 this morning and I was just like answering emails on my phone. I am a little jet lag. I'm not going to lie. Know that like, I'm just like hungry at weird times. I was only there for like three days and like my whole body got messed up. But anyways, that's our outro.

[B]

Everybody.

[A]

Go to Patreon if you want to see more of this. Goodness. We didn't even get to all my Hot Topics. What do we miss? We missed Joe Jonas and drag. Huh? Joe Jonas and Drag Chapel. Ron said she'd be more popular, should wear a muzzle and more. So go check that out. Patreon.com/just trish. We love you guys and we'll see you in the new year. No, we'll see you Wednesday. We'll see before the year.

[B]

Bye.