These TikTokers Are the WORST + Trisha's Boots Drama Fallout

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just Trish – "These TikTokers Are the WORST + Trisha's Boots Drama Fallout"

Episode Information:

• Title: These TikTokers Are the WORST + Trisha's Boots Drama Fallout
• Release Date: February 20, 2025
• Hosts: Trisha Paytas and Joey Graceffa, alongside co-host Moses Hacmon

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1. introduction

Trisha Paytas kicks off the episode by sharing excitement about performing the inaugural Eras of Trish show in Indianapolis, Indiana. She reminisces about the launch of Taylor Swift's ERAS tour, creating a parallel to her own themed performances.

Trisha Paytas [00:18]:
"Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast, you guys. Tonight we will be in Indianapolis, Indiana, performing the first ever Eras of Trish show. It's going to be one for the books. A night to remember."

2. Trisha's Boots Drama Fallout

The primary focus of the episode revolves around Trisha's recent issues with custom boots ordered for her tour. She details the frustrations stemming from subpar quality and poor communication with the boot designer.

Trisha Paytas [17:05]:
"I did reach out to Joey Graceffa for a statement last night."

Key Points:

• Initial Problem: Trisha ordered Meghan Trainor custom boots priced at $2,000, intended for use throughout her 35-show tour.
• Quality Issues: Upon receiving the boots, Trisha found them to be of inferior quality, resembling cheap Amazon boot covers rather than the promised leather and rhinestones.
• Designer’s Response: The designer attempted to rectify the issue by offering to redo the boots, but logistical constraints and lack of timely communication led Trisha to seek a refund.
• Resolution: Frustrated, Trisha took to TikTok to vent her experience. This public rant pressured the designer to issue a partial refund of $400.

Trisha Paytas [25:03]:
"But it's a classic situation where you did nothing wrong and somebody's blaming you for doing something wrong."

3. Criticism of Certain TikTokers

Trisha expresses strong negative sentiments towards specific TikTok personalities, labeling some as the "worst." She emphasizes the impact of online drama on personal well-being and public perception.

Trisha Paytas [17:12]:
"He was in the drama with another Minecrafter named Dream, the one that looks like Shane Dawson."

4. Tour Updates and Challenges

The hosts discuss the logistics of the ongoing tour, highlighting successes and areas needing improvement.

Trisha Paytas [11:00]:
"I would like people to come to Cleveland, Ohio please. Our lowest selling show at the moment is Cleveland. This is my hometown, you guys."

Key Points:

• Upcoming Shows: Detroit and Toronto are highlighted as cities with available tickets, though Cleveland is struggling with sales.
• Ticketing Issues: Trisha mentions difficulties in ticket distribution due to older theater venues not using mainstream platforms like Ticketmaster.
• Personal Struggles: Both Trisha and Joey share experiences of exhaustion and stress related to the relentless pace of touring.

5. YouTube Ad Revenue and Influencer Economy

A significant portion of the conversation delves into the financial aspects of being a content creator, focusing on YouTube’s AdSense rates and comparing earnings across platforms.

Joey Graceffa [35:25]:
"Mr. Beast has a lot of other businesses, obviously. He loves crypto, as we know."

Key Points:

• AdSense Limitations: Trisha notes that AdSense revenue is notoriously low, necessitating additional income streams like sponsorships and Patreon.
• Influencer Earnings: Discussion about Mr. Beast’s substantial earnings compared to average YouTubers, and the financial strategies employed by top influencers.
• Personal Finances: Trisha reflects on her own earnings, realizing that initial perceptions of her income may have been inflated due to overspending.

Trisha Paytas [42:16]:
"Probably like 25, 30 mil or something. What do you even do with all that?"

6. Pop Culture and TV Show Discussions

The hosts engage in light-hearted discussions about various TV shows and pop culture phenomena, sharing personal opinions and critiques.

Trisha Paytas [14:00]:
"We did watch it. Yeah. Maybe that's why."

Key Points:

• Modern Family: They analyze an episode focusing on body image, finding it both humorous and relatable.
• Survivor and Amazing Race: Conversations about the challenges and competitiveness of reality TV shows like Survivor and Amazing Race, reflecting on personal abilities and experiences.
• The White Lotus: Detailed discussion about characters and dynamics in The White Lotus, expressing opinions on casting and character development.

7. Personal Experiences and Opinions

Trisha and Joey share anecdotes related to their personal lives, such as dealing with health issues, managing tour expenses, and handling relationships.

Trisha Paytas [23:00]:
"I bought my mum a house. I went and I bought like six or seven of my friends from home houses just so they were all right."

Key Points:

• Health Concerns: Trisha recounts visiting urgent care due to feeling unwell amidst the boot drama.
• Financial Management: Both hosts discuss the high costs associated with touring, including unexpected expenses that lead to breaking even rather than profiting.
• Relationships: Brief mentions of personal relationships and how they navigate public scrutiny and personal challenges.

8. Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

As the episode wraps up, the hosts share their excitement for upcoming performances and discuss plans to continue producing engaging content.

Trisha Paytas [130:14]:
"We'll be back Monday to recap the weekend, hopefully we have some good, exciting stories to tell."

Key Points:

• Upcoming Performances: Trisha looks forward to her performance in Detroit and participation in World Pride in Washington D.C.
• Content Strategy: Plans to focus on tour recaps and continue interacting with their audience through various platforms.
• Final Remarks: Trisha encourages listeners to attend her tour and stay tuned for future episodes.

Trisha Paytas [129:56]:
"We're on tour and it's a great time. I'm very excited for that. It's going to be a good time."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Trisha Paytas [00:18]:
  "Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast, you guys. Tonight we will be in Indianapolis, Indiana, performing the first ever Eras of Trish show. It's going to be one for the books. A night to remember."

• Trisha Paytas [25:03]:
  "But it's a classic situation where you did nothing wrong and somebody's blaming you for doing something wrong."

• Trisha Paytas [17:12]:
  "He was in the drama with another Minecrafter named Dream, the one that looks like Shane Dawson."

• Joey Graceffa [35:25]:
  "Mr. Beast has a lot of other businesses, obviously. He loves crypto, as we know."

• Trisha Paytas [42:16]:
  "Probably like 25, 30 mil or something. What do you even do with all that?"

• Trisha Paytas [23:00]:
  "I bought my mum a house. I went and I bought like six or seven of my friends from home houses just so they were all right."

• Trisha Paytas [129:56]:
  "We'll be back Monday to recap the weekend, hopefully we have some good, exciting stories to tell."

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Conclusion

In this episode, Just Trish delves deep into Trisha Paytas's recent boot drama, exploring the challenges of managing a tour and dealing with online criticism. The hosts provide candid insights into the influencer economy, financial struggles, and the complexities of maintaining personal relationships amidst public scrutiny. With engaging conversations about pop culture and reality TV, the episode offers listeners a comprehensive look into the multifaceted life of Trisha Paytas and her co-hosts.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Why? Like, you have kids. Like, that's so embarrassing. Like, you guys are just creating problems that your kids will see and be like, y'all are weird. Like, for what?

[Joey Graceffa]

He was in the drama with another Minecrafter named Dream, the one that looks like Shane Dawson. He did the face reveal and everyone's like, ah. I did reach out to Joey Graceffa for a statement last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did you tell him her name is Trish? She's got the dish and all it got. Hello. Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast, you guys. Tonight we will be in Indianapolis, Indiana, performing the first ever Eras of Trish show. It's going to be one for the books. A night to remember. Do you remember where you were when the ERAS tour launched? The Taylor Swift version?

[Joey Graceffa]

I was there in the audience.

[Trisha Paytas]

The first night?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes, the first night. Opening night in Arizona. Glendale, Arizona, I want to say.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, I was boots on the ground. I said, tree Pain. I need to be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really? Was this before the podcast?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, it was May. So, like, two months, Three months before the podcast?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Joey Graceffa]

Two months.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. You were traveling to go see the opening.

[Joey Graceffa]

I traveled opening night. I had to do a whole pitch. I had to go into my work and be like, you guys, I need to be at opening night of the ERAS tour. And then they asked Tree Pain for a ticket for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's Tree Pain? I don't want to sound stupid.

[Joey Graceffa]

Taylor's publicist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like a rapper or something. I was like, no, not to be a music T Pain.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, she's ultimate girl boss. Really. She is just the best. But yeah, I hated my outfit when I went to the airport. Actually, I don't. I went alone and I was really stressed. I don't even know if I have a photo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. But I remember what I wore, and it wasn't fierce. I went like, Midnight Sleep themed. So it was all kind of like star. Oh, my God. It was the star shirt that I wore when I interviewed you, actually. Oh. At Entertainment Tonight.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that shirt. It was like, black with stars. Yes, that was a good one.

[Joey Graceffa]

But I don't know, it was a little too camp, I think. So I had, like, shorts on and I had, like, stars on my face, I think. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I feel like that fits the vibe.

[Joey Graceffa]

It kind of did. Yeah. But then I saw Tree Pain and it was kind of embarrassing because I was like in my midnight's regalia. And then here comes Taylor's publicist and I'm like, but you probably loved it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love It. I feel like if people come in theme, I'm like, oh, my God, it's so cute. Like, any theme is good theme.

[Joey Graceffa]

True. It was like the opening night, though, of the ERAS tour before the precedent was set for, like, the outfits and the cosplays and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

So insecure about it.

[Joey Graceffa]

The doors I opened, I guess they started with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, let's do a theme, and today you're in your rep era.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wanted to take all her eras. I want to be in my reputation era, too. What does that mean, reputation?

[Joey Graceffa]

It's like the. The vindication, the revenge, you know? I feel like you kind of went through that already post vlog squad. Like, everyone thinking that you are the villain, but really you were the hero.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's happened every other year, basically. For me, it's always that way. I'm gonna take her ERA and do Reputation era.

[Joey Graceffa]

You should. I love the aesthetic. I love the bad girl, like, dark aesthetic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe me and her need a collab for the next era too.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, with love. Yeah, why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe she has, like, if she gets married and has kids and she's in her mommy era, and we can do a mommy era album together. Like, lullabies. But Taylor's version.

[Joey Graceffa]

Love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you, Taylor, for not suing me. We love the answer, Trish. We love Taylor. Anything Taylor likes, Taylor can have. If you like Blake Lively. I like Blake Lively. Whatever. Whatever you do. I do.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but I have big news.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Malibu's. Malibu's newest obsession is the song Shake It Off.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's a Swiftie.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's, like, doing bathtub, and she's like, shake it Off.

[Trisha Paytas]

How did she hear it the first time?

[Moses Hacmon]

It actually came from the animation.

[Joey Graceffa]

Was it sing? Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it started from there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

But then that video comes with a lot of the movie in it. So then I just played her the actual song, and she was just, like, mesmerized.

[Joey Graceffa]

Love.

[Trisha Paytas]

She watched the ERAS tour. Like, I was like, two weeks postpartum with Elvis, and they had the ERAS tour on. I was like, it was that outback that I guess it must have been.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. On Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. For some reason, you had it on. Or maybe I had. I don't know who had it on. Someone had it on. And we were watching the ERAS tour.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I was like, we turned it on, and it was like, feature, like, oh, wow, there it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's a Swiftie now.

[Joey Graceffa]

Love. You got to start by choice.

[Moses Hacmon]

We did not.

[Joey Graceffa]

You know, we didn't have to influence or anything.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, it was just like, a Disney playlist, and that song caught her up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love, that is interesting. Like, she just sings it on her own because, like, even Chapel. It's like, I love Chapel Road. I don't necessarily, like, listen because I don't listen to music, but if I do listen to music, it's literally dear Evan Hansen or Donny Osmond. So it's like, the fact that she, like, sings Hot to Go and Pink Pony Club, like, on her own is actually, like, so crazy. She does it all the time, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Walking in the street. We just walk in, and suddenly she starts singing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she loves those songs. And she loves Taylor Swift, which also is like, not I. We, Taylor Swift. But I also don't, like, listen to her all the time.

[Joey Graceffa]

So it's just in her blood.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's in her blood.

[Joey Graceffa]

She has the pop divas.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is. She knows what's up.

[Moses Hacmon]

Target audience.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So, Taylor, we love you.

[Joey Graceffa]

And raising the next generation of Swifties.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm down for it. Honestly. I'll probably get in my Swifty era for sure. Maybe after my ERAS tour, I will. I know. I feel like after we talked about the Shahira Beyonce thing, I'm like, maybe I should have copied her more, you know, like, done some. Like, you said the diving would have been good.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. I didn't know that was the clouds or, like, the. In the Lover era with the big, like. I don't know what it even is, like, the big flag kind of things that the dancers walk out with, like, the pink clouds that they carry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, that would have been so cool. I should pay attention more. I need to take notes.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Notepad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. I really. I think I missed an opportunity there.

[Joey Graceffa]

Well, you have your cosplay that you did with Holly and Aphrodite. That was a Taylor costume.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which era is that?

[Joey Graceffa]

That was evermore with the hood, the witchy outfits that you guys had.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's why we were watching the ERAS tour. Maybe that's why, because Holly had said something crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

I remember saying that in the video.

[Trisha Paytas]

We did watch it. Yeah. Maybe that's why. Or maybe it was a coincidence. You're right. So I have that. I have my bodysuit.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she ever wear this in the show?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, that's the opening bodysuit. The lover bodysuit. And then you have the midnights, which is the closing era bodysuit. So you have the opening and the closing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. Okay.

[Joey Graceffa]

And the middle Evermore. So you just need like a reputation. You would slay in the Reputation body suit. Because it's. I love that one because it's like a snake goes down her whole body and inside the one leg.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Joey Graceffa]

And then. Which is an odd choice, but I kind of live for it. It has like that one pant leg and then the other is just kind of like a regular leotard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I did see that one when I was looking for the dancer outfits too. I saw that one. I was like, that's a good one. Were they wearing red behind her? What were they wearing behind her?

[Joey Graceffa]

That was black, I think. Think wore black on that Black.

[Trisha Paytas]

The red was maybe the 22.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, red era. Go figure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gagged. I love how literal it is. We are in the red era. Everyone wear red reputation.

[Joey Graceffa]

Everyone is a snake.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we're in the year of the snake. So Taylor has been on trend for a while. Yeah, we love to see it. And you guys will be in Detroit tomorrow. Can't wait for Detroit. And then we'll be in Toronto two nights in a row. And I'm very excited for that. It's going to be fun. It's going to be a good time. I heard it's freezing. I'm going to be freezing my off.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like snowing.

[Joey Graceffa]

Winter storm or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's a winter storm happening and we are going into the storm. But that's, you know, it's fine. We just think good thoughts. Everyone's safe.

[Joey Graceffa]

And it's because that groundhog didn't see it. Didn't see a shadow or did see its shadow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never know.

[Joey Graceffa]

I never know.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's his name? Buxby Phil or something. What is it?

[Joey Graceffa]

Punta Swanee.

[Trisha Paytas]

Phil Puntik Swanee. Sounds crazy. Okay. Not trying to be Zane and Heath over here making fun of names, but it's a crazy one.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's from the town that he's from.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Penta. What is it?

[Joey Graceffa]

Let me double check. It's something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like the name Penny Punks.

[Joey Graceffa]

Punk. Satani Punk. P, U N X S U T A W N E Y. I love the spelling.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that helped me?

[Joey Graceffa]

I was like, maybe. Oh, it's a town in Pennsylvania.

[Trisha Paytas]

Punxsutawney.

[Joey Graceffa]

Punxsatani. Punx Punxsatwani.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute. Like Punxatwonky.

[Joey Graceffa]

Are you going there on your tour to Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania? Are you checking?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, are we going to Pennsylvania? Oh, we are going to Pittsburgh maybe. That's close.

[Joey Graceffa]

Special guests, Punxsutawney, Phil.

[Trisha Paytas]

Over Gabbie Hanna. I don't know which one is more.

[Joey Graceffa]

She can bring Phil.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would actually be. I didn't know we were in a Pittsburgh. What is in Pittsburgh? I don't know. Yeah. Some of these look like two in Missouri. Wow. Okay. I guess Missouri is really where it's at.

[Joey Graceffa]

I guess so.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not where the Chiefs are from, is it?

[Joey Graceffa]

Kansas City. You are going there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Maybe I'll wear my Chiefs jersey.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trying to figure out things to wear in each thing. And I'm like, I don't really know what's. Like, what's Milwaukee, Wisconsin known for?

[Joey Graceffa]

Milwaukee. Is that cheese?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Wisconsin.

[Joey Graceffa]

Wisconsin is cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

Milwaukee's in Wisconsin. Which I should know because I'm from Illinois.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cheese. I think also Laverne and Shirley are from Milwaukee.

[Joey Graceffa]

Do you remember that show Banana Corporated? We're gonna do it. We could cosplay them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one are you? I don't know the difference. Really?

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know the difference.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. I don't know. I forget which one is which was. I think Laverne was the. Does she have the dark hair and Shirley.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, no, Laverne definitely had the blonde hair because she had the L. She was.

[Joey Graceffa]

Okay. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Petty Mark. That's Petty Marshall, Gary Marshall's daughter.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, because Gary Marshall. Isn't he younger than her or no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think that's like his daughter fact.

[Trisha Paytas]

Checking because they were in Hocus Pocus together, and I want to. Unless they were married. Maybe they were married. That makes more sense.

[Moses Hacmon]

As far as the tour, people in the comments are asking about the podcast, and, like, podcast is going to be. As usual, the tour is designed around the podcast, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is very true. We designed it to make sure. I'm back Monday and Wednesdays to film the Hot Topics. So you get them on Tuesdays and Thursdays even. Right now I'm in Indianapolis. But here you are getting. Getting the podcast.

[Joey Graceffa]

Movie Magic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Movie Magic. The power of Hollywood. What did it say about Gary Marshall?

[Joey Graceffa]

Daughters are Kathleen Marshall and Lori Marshall. Not married.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a brother and sister.

[Joey Graceffa]

That probably sounds right. Oh, siblings. Yes. We got there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I knew they were, like, iconic together. I. You know, I think Happy Days was also supposed to be in Milwaukee. I think it was, like, all supposed to be the same.

[Joey Graceffa]

Okay. You should recreate one of the little theme songs while you're there for your TikTok. I'm sure that'll be a hit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Making a ton.

[Joey Graceffa]

Milwaukee, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

So April 27th, if your name start with an L, you could put it there. I don't know the others. Laverne and Charlie. I don't. Okay. I don't know their characters. I don't know the difference. But anyways, we love Milwaukee and Minneapolis.

[Joey Graceffa]

Is the Twin Cities. Oh, is that right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I think Prince is from there. The Twin Cities, what's that mean? It's one city. How's it a twin City?

[Joey Graceffa]

Minneapolis, St. Paul. The Twin Cities.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? That's why.

[Joey Graceffa]

Because it's the two largest cities there, I guess. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, Minneapolis. I would also love people to come to Cleveland, Ohio, please. Our lowest selling show at the moment is Cleveland. This is my hometown, you guys. I have 40 family members coming. They're gonna be in the audience by themselves.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm talking directly to you guys. Went to high school together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, It's. Please come to Cleveland. That's my show, you guys. That's the show. I think it's hard cause it's not on Ticketmaster. So people can't find the tickets because it's an older theater. It's like downtown and it's in a great theater, but you can't find them. You have to go to like Vivid seats or something. I don't know. I have the. It's on the outback thing, but I think that's why people aren't. Well, this is what I'm telling myself is people can't find the link. I couldn't find the link. My dad couldn't find it because my dad's from Cleveland. He's like, I don't see the link to Cleveland. I'm like, I don't know. So anyways, a lot of these are sold out. There's some tickets available, I think Detroit, we still have some tickets available. And second night in Toronto, we have some tickets available. So come see us. We're on tour and it's a great time. I can already tell I'm not even there and it's already a good time. How are you?

[Joey Graceffa]

I'm pretty good. Yeah. I feel like we've been go, go, go these past few days.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, non stop. I've been seeing you. I've been seeing you every day for the past few days. We both felt skinny. We both felt like we were gonna pass out today.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, I got lightheaded at the gym today. Why do you think? I honestly don't know because I ate before the gym. I. It did remind me of that infamous Full House episode with DJ Tanner. If you guys don't know. DJ Tanner had a. It was like a Ed episode. Dark. But the big come to Jesus moment was when she like, did she faint on the elliptical or the treadmill?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Joey Graceffa]

And they're like, dj, go. They gotta eat something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She was just eating ice cubes. Ice cubes on a stick.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I used to try and do that. I was like, that's kind of a good idea.

[Joey Graceffa]

The danger of media.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, that makes sense because they made her a sandwich and it wasn't. It's just like a regular, like, sandwich. And she didn't want to eat it. She gave it to the dog or something. She's like, here, you eat it. I was like, that was so sad. And she was like, so not fat.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know. And then that was kind of the vision I was getting working out today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because you were on the treadmill.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. And then so I cut it a little bit short, but nevertheless, she persisted. Did she eat then?

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she finally ate? I guess.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think so. I think it was just a one episode arc, so I think, yeah, it was solved. Yeah, she recovered pretty good. Yeah. Thank God.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how about you? Did you eat after then?

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I ate before. I had a banana and peanut butter before, but I had a smoothie bowl after the gym to get a little skinny.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll have chicken cafe after this.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had grapefruit this morning. And then I. I have so much time. Like, I had so much time today. Like 9:30, I was done. I don't ever know what happens. Like, I don't know what happens between 9:30 and now that I'm like, so late to this podcast.

[Joey Graceffa]

But not so late, but big commute downstairs.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know what happens. I was totally, like, ready. Obviously, I didn't put, like, a crazy outfit on. I was like, my T shirt on. I don't know what happens. I literally have no idea. Like, where'd the time go? We watched an episode about bodies yesterday on Modern Family. The last season, they did a body episode. Lily didn't want to. She's like, grown up. She's like 15. She didn't want to go to the pool party with kids because she don't wear her bathing suit with other kids around. And then Cam and Mitch were like, you know, you shouldn't care what other people think. Like, you know, your body is great as it is. Whatever. And then she. Fine, I'll go. Because they basically Were like, anyways, she's like, fine, I'll go. So they get to the party, and it's all. It's not kids. Like, we thought there was kids going to be here. And they're like, no, it was just young. Young people are going to be here. And it was all like, young gays were at this pool party. So then Cam and Mitch don't want to take off of their shirts. And Lily's like, what the hell? Like, you just told me, like, I should, like, love my body and not care what other people think. So then they go into a room to exercise upstairs, like, real quick to try and, like, what? Cam tries to tan himself, and then Mitch tries to get on the elliptical, and it's all the uglies upstairs. All the ugly gays are upstairs, and they're also trying to do that. So then the gay. The gay guy that invites everybody, he's like, what are you guys doing? Like, you're supposed to be downstairs. Like, no, you only invited us cuz you want to look like the hot one here amongst all the old gays. And you wanted all those ugly ones to be down there. So then Lily comes in and she goes, you guys, like, what's happening? Like, you guys told me to love myself. So they all go out with their shirts off and jump in the pool amongst all the hot gays. I don't really know the moral of it. I know. That was crazy, though. They really did switch up quick. I was like, damn, y'all really told her to just be comfortable with her body. And then none of them wanted to go in the pool. I was like, well, you know, it's.

[Joey Graceffa]

Always easier to give advice than it is to, you know, listen to the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moral of that story.

[Joey Graceffa]

That is the moral of the story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Do as I say, not as I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was. That's Cam image in a nutshell.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. And also this podcast a lot of the times, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Always, always do what I say, not what I do. Always. It was. It was pretty good. I'm going to miss Modern Family. We're almost done with it. I'm going to miss when it's over. I don't know what to watch next. I don't. There's nothing going on.

[Joey Graceffa]

I mean, it's been over for a while, but, I mean, the season, the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Series is now with us.

[Trisha Paytas]

It feels like it. It feels like, oh, my God, what are we gonna. Literally, we have nothing to watch. Like, that's what we go to as. I think. I don't even. Like, I didn't even like Modern Family to begin with.

[Joey Graceffa]

You can do Young Sheldon.

[Trisha Paytas]

We tried. We did try when you were in your era. And I was like, really trying. And I was like, I cannot. I really couldn't. And I usually can get into shows. That one, I couldn't.

[Joey Graceffa]

I haven't even finished Young Sheldon. I feel like I. I let it. I let go of it at the good time before the series finale.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you didn't finish.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, I didn't finish. Well, Young Sheldon got really big and love Ian Armitage, but he just. It doesn't give the same Young Sheldon vibes after puberty. Like, I like Young Sheldon when he was like a kid and it was more quirky then. When you're a teenager and you're annoying, you're just kind of annoying.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's kind of Modern Family. They're all adults now. And I'm kind of like. I feel like I'm just watching a lot of adults having problems. I don't know if I like it. Even Haley with twins, I'm like, I don't know. I don't want to hear crying babies. You know what I mean? Like, it's a weird. Everything just gets a little weird. And then the young boy is dating like a 50 year old mom that like lives in the house. It's very weird. They lost the plot. They jumped the shark. Same thing with Jane the Virgin. We never really finished Jane the Virgin either because they kind of like lost the plot too. Michael comes back with the dead.

[Moses Hacmon]

So many seasons. How many story lines can you do?

[Trisha Paytas]

They killed off her husband in like season two and now he's back from the dead.

[Joey Graceffa]

I was like, okay, whose husband?

[Trisha Paytas]

Jane's.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, Jane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm jumping around too much, but we should probably finish it anyways. What's the hot topic today?

[Joey Graceffa]

Okay, I didn't see your tick tock of the boots drama and everyone keeps asking me about your boots drama, so I feel like we gotta open up.

[Trisha Paytas]

With that on the DMS or what? Where are they asking?

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, I was streaming yesterday and everyone was like, thoughts on Trisha's boot drama? And I was like, wait, what? And then I forgot because you talked about it briefly the other last episode yesterday about your TikTok rant. But you didn't like really go into detail about the boots tee.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, because I was like, I was kind of let it go. I didn't even. I almost even make the TikTok because I was like, I just don't like ranting. I haven't ranted. Truly clock me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I've like ranted aside from like a David Dobrik or something but like about something so like dumb or just silly in so long cause I just don't believe in it. I feel like, oh, it's like negative energy and you're just like wasting time on something that like you can't control. So I don't love ranting but TikTok, it does love a rant, I'll tell you that. Thank you to the sponsor of today's podcast, Golden Nugget Online Casino Ring in the new year with new rewards at Golden Nugget Online Casino. Right now, new players can play just $5 and get 250 casino spins on a featured game with promo code just Trish. That's 250 chances to win on us after you play just five bucks or more. Don't wait. The best rewards and the brightest moments are waiting at Golden Nugget Online Casino. 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And I honestly like wish her well. Like I even said, even in my TikTok, I was like, I've gotten really good service from her. Like I've gotten good products. Like I wasn't trying to like destroy this person. I was just like, I was feeling a little gaslit and I think that's why I took it to TikTok because I was like, wait, I feel really crazy. It's also a Day that I didn't see Moses this damn an urgent care for three hours. Because I didn't. I thought I was, like, sick. I thought something was wrong with me. Like, I decided to go to rehearsal, so I was just like, a little bit all over the place. So then basically, it all started because I was talking about wearing Keds on tour. I was like, this is probably what you're gonna see me on the stage with, because I ordered these boots, these Meghan Trainor custom boots this late. Okay, start. Start. It is a small business, right? Just. I work with. I work, like, hundreds of small businesses. Etsy, Instagram, all of it. And I worked with her before, and she, like, does such good quality stuff. Like, it's actually amazing the quality stuff that this person has, like, delivered. So. And it's expensive. And I only use this person once in a while because it's so expensive. So when. If I bought a pair of shoes, they're like $5,000 for this custom pair, a custom. Whatever else I bought from this person. You know, just custom items. And they've always been really good, but they're expensive. So I do it few and far between. However, these were the boots I was gonna wear my entire tour for 35 shows. And it's these Meghan Trainor ones. And they look like the Givenchy boots. But what we figured out is they're actually boot covers that she wears with sneakers underneath. Yeah, they're super cute. So she literally is like, oh, yeah, I can easily do that. She goes, basically what it is, it's like a leather boot warmer boot cover with rhinestones. Kind of like what you get on Amazon, but, like, better quality because it's like leather and rhinestones. And I was like, perfect. She's rhinestone stuff for me before. And, oh, the kicker was, as I said, oh, like, my calf is so big, I can't find boots. So I measured my calf, which is 18 inches, and she's like, no, I can do that. No problem. And then she'll, oh, the sneaker is just a sneaker. So we get this little wedge, and we can just bedazzle those. Perfect. Great. So that was back in December. I said, I need them by the 15th. So she, like, sends them to me. I open them, and I'm, like, in a rush. Cause I'm, like, leaving that day, and I open them and, like, I'm telling you, the other stuff is, like, the. The best quality you could ever get. This was, like, literally, like, temu. Maybe. Like, it was like glitter paper that was like Crinkly. And I was like, this is so weird. And then I even took them to my bling person to be like, can you bling these up or something? And she's like, actually, I can't, because they're not even like, they're not leather. They're nothing. Like, if I put a. If I put a glue on it, it's gonna, like, melt it. So I was like, damn. And then the sneakers came, and I had Moses take a picture because I couldn't remember. I was like, I don't think those had any bling on it. So he took a picture and, yeah, they're just steam matted sneakers. They're $100 sneakers that she charged me 500 for. So it's 500 for the sneaker, 1500 for the boot. It's like, so silly. It's like, whatever. So they came, and I was just like. But I kind of gave her the benefit of the doubt. I was like, hey, did you, like, outsource to someone? I would just assume, like, outsource to someone that, like, you didn't. The quality wasn't there. But she was like. She basically was just like, oh, no. Like, I'm so sorry it's not to your satisfaction. Like, let me redo the whole boot for you. And I was like, oh, I can't. I don't have time. Like, I have to. I have to leave Thursday. This is Sunday. I'm like, I have to leave Thursday. She's in a different state. And she was like, finding these Givenchy knockoff boots online. Like, oh, I can bedazzle these. And I was like, oh, I'm like, well, why can you rhinestone those but not these? And she had to go back and forth. And then finally she was just like, oh, well, the paper was just too thin. I couldn't write, so whatever. So we were just going back and forth. She was basically just trying to find a way to, like, do a whole new boot for me. But again, the problem doesn't fit the calf. There's heels, there's sneaker. It just, like, wasn't going to work. I just wanted a refund so I can go to Blinged up who did my Taylor Swift boot. She did a full Swarovski Taylor swift boot for $750. So I was like, well, maybe I could just have her go, like, do some sneakers for me or something. So I was just trying to get, like, half a refund. I was like, I don't know, like, maybe something, but. And we do work well, Together, like, she. This lady keeps saying, like, oh, we had good past business relationships. Like, you know, I. I feel like you should give me a little bit more credit because we worked well together. And I'm like, yeah, I would, if you give me a little credit, to be like, yeah, you weren't happy. Let me give you, like, a refund a little bit. You know what I mean? But she, like, did not want to give me a refund. So we're going back and forth, and I just felt so gaslit because she was just like, you know, we all make mistakes, all this stuff. And I'm like, yes, I get that. But then basically by the end of the day, I was just trying to get $400 from the sneakers back because the sneakers were just literally sneakers with not one ounce of bling. And I kept asking her, like, can you just show me, like, what, a little bit of labor, a little bit of, like, product, you know, because she told. Basically she told me $2,000 was already spent. That's what she had told me. She said $200 already spent. That's basically how much it costs for the boot. $300 to ship it to you. She was basically making it seem like she made no money on it. I was like, okay, but what about the Steve Madden shoe that you literally did nothing on? And so anyways, so she basically was just, like, doing everything to not give me the refund. And then at that point, I was just like, okay, I'm not getting a refund. I'm not. I don't want a new boot from you. It's not going to get here in time. It's not going to fit. So I just wanted TikTok. It was a long day. I was after rehearsals, after Urgent Care, and I was just like, well, let me just do a little rant. Just like. Because I honestly thought maybe I was going crazy because I texted you from Urgent Care and I was like, I like, am I, like, going crazy? I texted blinged up. I was like, am I like, what? Everyone's kind of telling me the same thing. Like, no, that's like, really bad quality. Whatever. It's like, literally whatever. So then I went to TikTok and I really, again, I thought I was being very nice about it. I really did. I cut out, obviously, anything about her Instagram, whatever, and I was just like, I was just frustrated. I was frustrated. I felt gaslit and I don't know, I just like, kind of ranting. What was I expecting from it? Nothing. I guess what I got from it as I got $400 back because she did send me an email. She was like pissed. I did the thing. Oh, I can't believe I did an update on my tick tock this morning. And just a short little one because I didn't want to talk about it again. I was really done with it. I can't believe you would take it to TikTok after all these years or all this time we've known each other and like work together. And I was like, girl. I was like, I was just like, I feel like you're gaslighting me. And then I felt like she was gaslighting me again because she's just like, you know, people make mistakes and I just don't understand. I was just like, girl, I wanted was a refund and you didn't tell me anything about the sneaker. And then she goes, no, I was always going to give you a refund. Like, I don't know what you're talking. That's what she said afterwards. I was like, no, you weren't. So anyways, I was like, I said, I said honestly, just like, keep the money at this point, like, I really don't care. Like, I don't care. I was so frustrated. She kept going back and forth, like arguing with me. I'm like, I don't want this energy, like, don't, don't message me. And then she's like, what? It's bad energy to apologize? And I was just like, no, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

It'S like long paragraphs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

That say absolutely nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was long.

[Moses Hacmon]

If I show it is gaslighting. Especially like, there's a shoe. She went to the store, bought an 80 shoe, sent you the shoe, charge you 500. But that's it. Simple.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, but the paragraph would be like, we're all humans. We all make mistakes. How could you do this after all this? Like, it had nothing to do with like the sneaker. So I was just getting so frustrated. It was probably the whole day we were messaging. So there's so many messages.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it's a classic situation where you did nothing wrong and somebody's blaming you for doing something wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what it was.

[Moses Hacmon]

I felt like that's, that's. And she's like, she was by herself. She's just like, I just need somebody to chime in and tell me I'm not going crazy. And that's the TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So. And then she called me aggressive. I can't believe how aggressive you're being. And I was like, I'm Just so frustrated, like. And that's all it was. And then my other problem was. And this happened with my dress designer, like, a year ago, or just designer, not my dress designer. Same thing. I paid $2,000 for a dress. They're like, well, I already spent all the materials. I'm like, can you show me the materials? And they, like, took a picture of materials. I'm like, can you send it to me? And they, like, never sent to me. So, like, I got scammed last year because I paid all of it up front. So by the end of my TikTok, the moral of the story was like, hey, maybe we should just pay half front and then half when we get the product. Because I don't know. People don't. Like, once they have money, either people spend it or they just don't want to give it back. Like, getting money back from someone is impossible because she wanted to do everything but get the money back. Let me do a whole new boot with rhinestones. I'm like, can you send me that money that you're gonna use for that? And, like, I'll use it towards another shoe. It was just so frustrating. So. And then she went on this whole thing like, I'm a small business. Like, I use that money for expenses, for living expenses. Like, I don't know why you're trying to hurt me. I was like. Like, I have a family, too. I'm like, just trying to, like, hustle and make money, too. But it was a whole thing. So, yeah. All that to say, I guess it worked. I got the 400 back. I still think I should have gotten, like, a little bit of the boot back, because I know it literally cost. I know that paper. She used, the glitter paper. It wasn't even sealed. It came off. It was like, literally 100 for those things.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it comes off. It just touches the glitter, gets off of you. And it's. It's just paper.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we bring them in or. No? Too much?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, no. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, anyways, it was bad. It was really, really bad.

[Moses Hacmon]

You trust people and you. She always pays upfront. Always. And I'm like, when I make a piece of furniture, doesn't matter how much it costs. I don't get anything upfront. I do all the work, all the materials. You don't know. And then we send them the furniture. They approve, they like it, we get paid, you know, but you start the other way around because. Because you like to move forward. Like, okay, do it. Here's the money. Go. Like, I'm not going to keep You. I'm not going.

[Trisha Paytas]

I actually don't like. Like, like, the people do my tour costumes. Like, they never charge me up front. Blink. I'm never charged me up front. Like, I usually don't. But if they ask okay, I guess I could see it. I guess I was like, okay for materials. And they're trying to print themselves, but materials are usually. I think half is the maximum, probably even less. They probably do a third for materials, and then, you know, pocket, which is how businesses work. It's fine. You can upcharge things. It's not a big deal. Especially the bling industry. Like, it doesn't cost much, but I get the labor and all that stuff too. Obviously. Charge whatever your time is worth. But, yeah, I. I think the moral of the story is, like, yeah, don't pay up front. Which maybe I shouldn't do. But I. I always looked at it as, like, they don't trust me or they don't know me, but then again, I don't know them. So now here's my. That's where I settled that. I was like, honestly, at the end of the day, you don't really know anybody. So just. I get wanting to get some money up front for, like, materials in case someone, like, bails or whatever, but I think it should be 50 front and then once the product's complete, like, show the, like, completed product and then send them the money, I guess. I don't know. It was not a big deal. I mean, it's like, Tuesday now. Well, Thursday now, but, like, Tuesday now, Sunday when it happened, I was gonna let it go. I was so, like, annoyed. I was just like, I actually don't want any of this. Like, it's fine. I'm off another $2,000, which is, like, it is annoying. And everyone on Tik Tok was like, that is a lot of money. It's a lot of money to me too. 2000 is like.

[Moses Hacmon]

But also, this is something you're gonna take on tour for 35. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like somebody showing to tour and doesn't have their camera or their microphone or this is your costume when you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Designed it and worked for it, and that's what you wanted to have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I have, like, those little Capezios. Like, at the end of the day, like, I can find something at those little capezo heels or whatever. I'll probably end up wearing them for the first weekend or whatever. But, yeah, it became bigger than I anticipated because I wasn't looking for anything other than the 400 refund, which I ended up getting after the TikTok, because after the trash, well, I was always going to refund you. And I was like, well, girl, why don't you say that? From the very beginning, I would have, like, avoided all this because that's literally all I wanted was some sort of like, yeah, I effed up. And she never replied to the sneakers until after the TikTok. And then she, oh, it was a mishap. I, like, overlooked it. I was like, okay, well, again, something you could have said 12 hours earlier. And yeah, that was it. And then, yeah, people wanted to update. I wasn't posting on TikTok because I was like, I don't want to, like, talk about it anymore. And the girl was already obviously pissed, but I was like. And she gaslighted me more. And I was just like, I don't know again, it's fine. I mean, I never even said the dress designer's name or anything either because I was like, I don't want to, like, ruin someone's business. Like, that's your business. And the dress designer works with a ton of queens on RuPaul, so obviously, like, they do deliver stuff. And this person has delivered me stuff before too, so it's not even like, ruin this company. But I was just, like, frustrated and it, like, ended up working because I was like, read the comments. Like, I'm not. I'm not in the wrong here. And I feel like TikTok is pretty fair, especially when it goes viral. When it's like beyond your fans or whatever watching. They're pretty fair and being like, what's, you know, what's right. I just don't want to back and forth. I hate that on Tick Tock when it's like a back and forth, even if I never say her name and then like, this person comes out and like, does a tick tock. It's just like, Then it just becomes a thing and whatever. But that's the update. I did get the refund. I don't like ranting because it's just like so much energy. Like, it's just so much for what, you know?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Sometimes you just lay the boots house down and sometimes the boots slay you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did you just come up with that?

[Joey Graceffa]

I was thinking about that the whole time you were talking. I was like. I was thinking about.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like, really paying attention. Okay.

[Joey Graceffa]

I was trying to think about my response. I was like, that sounds like, pretty poignant.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good one. The boots, they slayed Me sometimes they slayed my bank account. Yeah, I'm telling you guys not to complain or whatever, but I always am. Like, with tours, I'm always like, yeah, I end up breaking even. And you're always just like, how. Like, you're especially. You're playing all these big venues, it's like one thing after the other becomes like, double the pay. Someone cancels and can't get on the flight, so you have to pay someone else to come. Someone gets injured. And again, that happens. Someone gets injured, so you have to pay someone else to come. But then it's like you're paying kind of double. Happened with my music too. Like, one person can get the music done, so I had to pay someone else. So I've been paying double now with the shoes. I've been paying double with everything. And I'm like, I think this is why I break even every tour and make no money. I just do this literally for fun at this point, which is fine. But I've been paying double everything because there's always something coming up with this tour. It's fine, it's fine. It doesn't really. It doesn't really matter. At the end of the day, we were. We were talking about this on Patreon where it was like, oh, no, I know. I was talking about today. I'm just writing my book. I was writing my book this morning because my. Someone who's helping me write the book is over in England. So we go at like 6am to start writing. And I was talking about it how, like, there's times when I made like so much money, but I was. I was unhappy because I was like, getting triggered or whatever like that. And then there was times where I owed so much money, like taxes or whatever. But it was like the happiest I've ever been because I was just like doing ASMR videos and keeping to myself. So it's like, interesting how, like, obviously money helps. Obviously I'd rather like, have money than not, but there are times when I've been like, literally a million dollars in debt and actually was happier than the previous year when I was making all the money that I became in debt for because I was constantly being triggered and stuff. So there's something to be said about money isn't everything. So I kind of don't really think about it. I'm like, as long as I have money for my bills and my children and stuff like that, it's probably fine. But anyways, that's that. But we're going on Tour? No. And like, yeah, I will make some money off this or hopefully. I mean, I don't know. I mean, at the end of the day, I keep like just doubling all these charges, but, you know, hopefully I'll make some money. But at the day I'll get to meet all you guys and I'll get to perform. And that's truly invaluable. Getting all those TikToks. I really do feel like, oh my God, what did I see? Oh, the SNL thing was at Radio City Music Hall. The like SNL music thing.

[Joey Graceffa]

The concert.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And I saw Cher like her POV from the States stage, like literally share performing there at Radio City Music hall and just seeing like, it's huge. Like Radio City Music hall is how many people? 4,000 people or something. It's huge. I was just thinking, like, how is our show gonna be there? Like, it's gonna like there's just like four little like dancers and me. I'm like, I hope it looks okay. I don't know, I can't even. I can't even imagine.

[Moses Hacmon]

The screen fills up the space really nice, you know, seeing all the videos and everything because.

[Joey Graceffa]

And that moon you're gonna fly over.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Maybe the Radio City will get a movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Visual content. But that's what Trishmash was, you know, you had 3,4000 people.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I didn't. My biggest one was 2800, I think at San Diego. San Diego or with me that was 3000. And Beacon was 2800.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But 4000, I think is Radio City Music Hall. And I was just like, I mean, there's still tickets available, but I was like, damn. I just seeing like snl like share performing with like the set and the band behind her.

[Joey Graceffa]

I was like, it's 6,000. What? 5,960 musical. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, damn. Guys buy tickets, buy tickets. They really thought, oh, selling out the Beacon. They're like, let's go. Radio also means I was like, let's do it. Double is wild. But come see me there. Maybe I'll put a moon or something. Maybe I'll find something to get out there. I need to. After I saw that, I was like, damn, I'm really lucky. I'm really excited for to play all these shows. Actually, Detroit is, I think 4, 000 people too. So anyways, we're excited will be there and yeah, it's funny. It's funny. I. I love going on this tour. I feel very pop star. Post bottom pop star. It was supposed to be out Today as of filming this, but still not out.

[Joey Graceffa]

So I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hopefully it's out today. Hopefully it's on Apple. Apple or itunes. I don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

Apple, Music, Spotify.

[Trisha Paytas]

Two different things. Yeah, I deleted my Spotify. We talked about it. Spotify has been deleted. But anyways.

[Joey Graceffa]

Well, Speaking of money, Mr. B's alleged monthly earnings leaked and I don't know, let me know if you think this number is smaller or bigger than you would expect from Mr. B. So for the 28 day period, and that is from January 20th to. To February 15th, he got 2.6 billion views. But his revenue for the 28 days is 4.2 million, which means by that number for the year he would make.

[Trisha Paytas]

50 million from just AdSense alone.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes, just from AdSense. Is that what do you think of that number? Is it about right or is it sounds about right? A lot of people were like, wow, that's. That's only how much he makes. People thought the number would be bigger, but I thought that was pretty big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Adsense is like notoriously low. Hence why you need sponsorships and Patreon and stuff like that. Like it's pretty low.

[Joey Graceffa]

And his videos aren't super long. It's not like he goes for hours. Like they're pretty true. It's like tight, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You can only put so many ads per like minute.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Annoying somebody. He gets sponsors for his videos.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I imagine him making most of his money.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's where you make. I think David's always talked about that too. Like he's always said, like he gets all his money from.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hence why he puts music and stuff in there.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. And also Mr. Beast has a lot of other businesses, obviously.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

He loves crypto, as we know, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, does he?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, he's done a lot of those, like allegedly like rug pull kind of things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, with like Logan, Paul and stuff. So. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's probably worth like billions.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a billionaire. Same thing with like Logan and Jake. Isn't that why they're like in Puerto Rico? Because they like cannot. Do you not pay taxes? I don't know in Puerto Rico.

[Joey Graceffa]

I have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's like a reason they go down.

[Moses Hacmon]

There maybe, but it has to be with taxes. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do they pay taxes in Puerto Rico? Is Puerto Rico part of the United States? No. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or are they in Costa Rica?

[Trisha Paytas]

They're in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico's part of the United States. Oh.

[Joey Graceffa]

Not like a state, but it's a territory, so that's weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you don't have to pay taxes then? If you're just.

[Joey Graceffa]

I have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, God, we gotta go to Puerto Rico. Bad bunny's down there for three weeks in June. Maybe Seeky can hook us up.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, and love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that'd be great. Interesting. If you're from Puerto Rico, let us.

[Joey Graceffa]

Know if you pay taxes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone's in the comments looking. I don't know. That's so interesting. Yeah, he probably makes so much money. Yeah, I think, like, who makes money off AdSense anymore? Not us. We used to do pretty good with Adsense. I don't know what happened.

[Moses Hacmon]

And this seasonal thing.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, obviously, like, there's times where it's worth more. And then he recently took an economy flight and people were calling him Mr. Broke instead of Mr. Bees. But I'm like, what's wrong? Not me having to come out here and defend Jimmy Donaldson, but like, what's wrong with an economy flight, y'all? I'm like, he obviously. Commercial economy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It says so he was in economy on a commercial flight.

[Joey Graceffa]

And yes, on EVA air.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are just so extra like that. I hate you.

[Moses Hacmon]

It also depends what the situation was. Sometimes you don't get. Maybe it was like, standby. That's the only seat that was available and you need to get somewhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe you want to be practical and save his billions.

[Joey Graceffa]

He replied, I've flown Southwest multiple times already this year. Sometimes when we need the last minute tickets, that's all that's available. And I'm just chilling in the back of a plane with random fans.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, he has defense more. Sometimes when first class is available, we have to take this. Like, that's. That's crazy. Like, just say. Sometimes we also just don't say anything. Who cares if you're an economy. That's. That's a weird response.

[Joey Graceffa]

It is weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why does he have to say that?

[Joey Graceffa]

It's also so odd because it's like if he took a private flight, people be like, oh, he's eco terrorist. But then he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so true. But then for him to throw in that with random fans in the back, like, okay, what?

[Joey Graceffa]

Meanwhile, he's just like passed out with his picture. Yeah, there's a picture. It's just him sleeping and someone took the photo.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's not cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate, I hate when people do that. Like, I've done it before. I did like literally caretop one time, like five years ago. He's like in front of me, but it's just. It is annoying. It Feels weird. I hate when people do it. I hate when people do that. Like taking pictures from.

[Joey Graceffa]

Especially if it's to be like, look how broke he is. And Obviously everyone knows Mr. Beast has money. Like, there's no answer, but like, he's rich. Hello.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Joey Graceffa]

We see the compound, we see the gym, we see the chocolate. Like, he's good.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

But yeah, but who are they? You know, like with Mr. Beast, I can see that because his audience are like young boys and it's like, all about ego and flexing.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Moses Hacmon]

Whatever you have. So he has to defend and be like, no, no, don't worry, I'm still flexing. I just. But yeah, if somebody says something about that, you want to sit, you know, in three seats with your family, with your kids. That's just nonsense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Our new audience wouldn't be like that. They're very open to everything and anything. That's what I love. I do love this, like, newer audience we've been getting. Like, even after Broadway, when I clearly couldn't sing, I was like, you did it. You made me cry. I was like, I love it. So even. Even if I show up on these shoes, I know people are gonna be like, yes, you slayed.

[Joey Graceffa]

So I love your cat's queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

The cats are. And they're wide width. The other thing, those. What?

[Joey Graceffa]

I just remember Taylor Swift had a Keds collaboration. So you're really eating Taylor's nachos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think she's wearing her heads?

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't think so. This was 1989 era. A little bit of red era. She was all about the kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're the only ones who make wide width. Because those other. Those two mana shoes, by the way, that cost me $100. They're not wide width. I can't even wear them if I wanted to on stage. So I really just. Just got screwed. But me and Taylor, I love cats. These are eight wide. They're so comfy. I love them so much. Yeah, that's. People. People are so nice. I'm over that, though. The whole, like, you're broke. You're like, I don't know. Who cares? Half the time you're right, half the time you're not. You know what I mean? Sometimes I am, sometimes I'm not. But I'm definitely never rich. Like, that's crazy to me when people like, she has millions of dollars. I do not have a million dollars in my bank account. I don't know what people think. Like, damn.

[Joey Graceffa]

I saw a interview clip on Twitter of, like, one of the little Minecraft boys. I think it was Tommy in it. You know him?

[Trisha Paytas]

He sounds familiar. Haven't we talked about it?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes, that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why that name sounds so familiar. Maybe he messaged me. That name sounds so.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, that would be so camp if he messaged you. You know, not really. I'm not really a Minecraft girl like that. But he was in the drama with another Minecrafter named Dream, the one that looks like Shane Dawson. He did the Face reveal.

[Trisha Paytas]

And everyone's like, ah, why did they do that? He's not bad looking. Why was everyone like, why?

[Joey Graceffa]

He's kind of a devil amongst us. So it's fine, I guess. Yeah, but is he? Yeah, but this was just found out. Like, this past month, there was a whole drama between Tommy. He was used to, like, collab with him and was a fan of him, but then he had dream, ended up being like a villain. He used the arch. They said, if you're a Tommy in it fan, you're the Ar Slur Dream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Said that?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes. On Twitter. No. He's like a menace. He really is, like, insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

But people still love him.

[Joey Graceffa]

He has. You know, there's always fans that are delusional and don't see the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't for me. Oscar said it, I said it, sure. I get so scared. I'm like, oh, my God, what if he has, like a fan base? It's going to come for us.

[Joey Graceffa]

Maybe. I don't know, but everything that I've seen of him looks just like, very, like. He just doesn't seem like a great guy because he also, like, made an exposed video on Tommy, but, like, made up all these receipts. Like, he's like, Tommy uses a sweatshop for his merch and he photoshopped Tommy in, like, sweatshop. And Tommy is like this kid who's like, I think in his early 20s. And it's so weird and it's all fake, like none of it was real. And other people came out with receipts being like, no, you made this up dream. Anyway, that was the whole thing. Random tangent aside, he did an interview where he was like. Someone straight up asked him, like, oh, how much money do you have in your bank account? He's like, 30, 40 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seriously though, how much money do you.

[Joey Graceffa]

Have at this point?

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably like 25, 30 mil or something. What do you even do with all that? First thing I did was obviously I bought my mum a house. I went and I bought like six or seven of my friends from home houses just so they were all right. And then I know I try and give like a mill a month charity and then double.

[Joey Graceffa]

Why give to charity?

[Trisha Paytas]

I invest. Tommy, do it. What?

[Joey Graceffa]

I guess those Minecraft Boys, during 30, during quarantine, they made millions. They were like. He was like, what do you. He got asked, what do you even do when you have that much money? He's like, like, I bought my mom a house, all my friends a house. I donate a million a month to charity.

[Trisha Paytas]

A million a month? You got to say that soon. If you only have 30 million, you're only going to last 30 months.

[Joey Graceffa]

But he must make millions every month, I guess to turn that around.

[Trisha Paytas]

But at least he's donating. What charity are you donating?

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't see the receipts.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. But also. God. I guess I believe it. But also, like, why if you have 30 million, why would you say that? Do you know what I mean? Like rich people don't really talk about how rich they are.

[Joey Graceffa]

He's a child.

[Trisha Paytas]

How old is he?

[Joey Graceffa]

He's like 21.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, can you send me my phone? Why do I feel like you DM me? Because I like, know the spelling. Maybe I'm just making it up.

[Joey Graceffa]

He's 20.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wouldn't. What? No. 20 year olds have $30 million. They should really have a guardianship till they're like 25 over their finances. That's crazy. But I guess if he's donated to charity, also send me it as somebody.

[Joey Graceffa]

I'll take a house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I would take a house for sure. Do you want to collab? How do I get that? How do I get that money? Okay, let's see.

[Joey Graceffa]

I hope he's so. Goddamn.

[Trisha Paytas]

How else would I know that name? Unless I just see it Maybe on. On Twitter.

[Joey Graceffa]

Maybe that's how I know. I just see it on Twitter somehow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tommy in it, it.

[Joey Graceffa]

You know, Tubbo.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? I know Tubo. Wait, is this him? Is he comedy?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, that's him.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's on a comedy tour. Let's see if he's.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, is he a comedian as well?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. No, not this person. He's never messaged me. He kind of looks like Adam McIntyre a little bit.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. I think he's Irish as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? And he has $30 million? I wonder if Adam McIntyre has $30 million. Maybe he might. He's working, you know, I never know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe he found that gold bag at the end of the rainbow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like that is.

[Joey Graceffa]

If anyone from Ireland was offended.

[Trisha Paytas]

We did not know the leprechauns are offended. Are there? We talked about this. There's no leprechauns. I think they're fine.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, no, I think that's just a mythical being. Question mark.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think mythical, I guess being because it's like a human depiction. Where did he say that? Where is he even saying all that?

[Joey Graceffa]

It was a podcast clip that I saw on Twitter.

[Trisha Paytas]

$30 million. I. I don't think I've ever even made 30 million. Definitely not. Maybe. I guess maybe no. Maybe I've made no I don't know. Maybe I spent 10 million on music videos, so maybe I've made like 14 million maybe in my life.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's crazy. That's like, with fans making like 4 million, you know what I mean?

[Joey Graceffa]

Because I don't even know what the revenue streams are. Obviously, streaming. You make a lot of money. YouTube sponsors, I'm sure they went on, like, little tours or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's on tour and outside.

[Joey Graceffa]

There we go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess if you just, like, go by yourself and pay no one, that's. Next time I'm doing stand up comedy on tour. No, actually, I should just do whatever I want to do.

[Joey Graceffa]

Just sit on a couch.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, guys, what's the questions for me? Maybe people like that. Maybe people would rather see that than me sing. Honestly, people are like, actually, we don't care about your songs.

[Joey Graceffa]

Just eat a chicken nugget, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly would like. My first tour, I did that. Okay, maybe I'm doing it all wrong. 30 millions. Maybe I should be a streamer. Well, I guess you're a streamer. Are you making 30 million?

[Joey Graceffa]

Certainly not my whole.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not kidding you. On my Blondes on the Farm J channel my entire lifetime. I think I made like 1.2 million on there.

[Joey Graceffa]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is, like, crazy because I always thought I made so much on YouTube. And I was like, God, I really did it on AdSense. I guess I'm like, I don't even know where I made money. I'm trying to think. I guess. I guess I was. I guess that's a. Is it a lot? No, it's not a lot. I swear. It was only like maybe 1.3 or something, which is like, I've done it 18 years. That's nothing. What is that? That can't be right. But I swear I looked up the other day.

[Joey Graceffa]

Me. I don't know. I randomly. Your I. Your little shopping hauls came back up on my algorithm. I don't know why. Yeah, the Louis Vuitton or, like, buying everything I touched with you and Cali and your mom came up and, oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was a good one. What was I doing that made money back then? I guess. I don't know. I have no idea. I think I got used to get brand deals. Like.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, you would get brand deals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's so weird. I don't know. Like, I guess people always had the perception I made so much money and just have so much money. So I just thought, man, yeah, I make so much money, but I'm like, maybe I didn't. Maybe I just spent everything, spending everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it looks like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe I wasn't making as much as I thought. I don't know. Yeah. Because I really don't think of a time in my life where I just like making so much money, you know, But. All right, well, Crazy. I would like you on the podcast Tommy in it. Do you like him?

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't know. I don't know much about him, to be honest, but from what I've seen, he seems like a good old chap. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

The dream is beeping with him. How old is dream?

[Joey Graceffa]

25.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. I mean, good for them making all this money though.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know those Minecraft boys. Minecraft is where it's at. I guess you had to be like a young, like, you know, I. I want to compare them to like a One Direction type because they were like, you know, Brit dream. I don't think is British, but is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tommy in it British?

[Joey Graceffa]

He's Irish, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, we just.

[Joey Graceffa]

So the Nile of the. Of this, I guess. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And who was the other one that.

[Joey Graceffa]

You just said wasn't British dream?

[Trisha Paytas]

He's American.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, from that one. I remember the face reveal video and he did not have an accent, so. But he was in a dark basement. I don't know where he's from.

[Trisha Paytas]

The face reveal is just dark.

[Joey Graceffa]

It was really. Do you remember the face reveal? It was kind of nuts. I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember the image is like him.

[Joey Graceffa]

Like glowing and like lowering the mask and he had this one angle.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was like, that's so scary.

[Joey Graceffa]

And he didn't move from like this side of his face.

[Moses Hacmon]

Very anti climatic climactic.

[Joey Graceffa]

Everyone thought he was going to be like a model under there. He's not even ugly is a thing. But I guess, you know, the image.

[Trisha Paytas]

In your head is reveals are not a thing. I feel like people should stop doing.

[Joey Graceffa]

Those because you're like Pedro Pascal under the. Oh, like a Jonathan Bailey under the mask. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're like, here's the big reveal. Not to whatever, but I remember when Spillshester was doing the big reveal and everyone's like, it's Morgan Adams. It's this. And so I was like really excited and again, love Christy, but I was just also like. And love her. And I'm glad it was just like her, like sweet little Christy under there. But I was kind of like, oh, I was expecting like Ryland or something. You know what I mean? So I think no matter what, you're just always Disappointed, like, dream. Probably fine to look at in everyday life, but everyone's expecting, like you said, Pedro. Well, he's a little. Maybe like a John. He's also old, older, like a hairy style.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah. Who's young? Who's young enough?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's a young hot person?

[Joey Graceffa]

That boy from the White Lotus. Have you seen that? Oh, I don't. I don't know. Schwarzenegger's little brother.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I saw such a funny thing on Twitter that's like, wow. I can't believe White Lotus, in the political climate we're in, would put two brothers, like, like, seem for each other. And, like, can't wait for watch the make out or something. Like, as if it was, like, so detrimental to, like, the lgbt. But then, like, also, can't wait to watch that makeup, because what is the. I haven't seen the first episode. They're brothers and they're.

[Joey Graceffa]

Can I tell you, I fell asleep during this part and I don't know, like, of course. The one part I fell asleep through is the part everyone is talking about.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it?

[Joey Graceffa]

It's Patrick Schwarzenegger's character, I guess, ghost, like, off. And then he. I think, because I fell asleep, so I don't know the full context. And then the little brothers, and they share a room at the resort, and it's like, oh, you want to watch? And then he watches his brother. Little brother watches him off. But the whole. And then they have a sister, too. And the three. The relationship between the three is kind of weird. Like, I. Even before that scene, it gave weird, like, vibes just from, like, the dialogue. But I thought the sister was going to be involved. I don't know. So we'll see where that develops.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's so funny because this one, he's like, it's not about sex, it's about death. But then it's like the first episode.

[Joey Graceffa]

And of course I fell asleep during it. And not because it was boring, just because I was tired.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you need to watch it when you're awake.

[Joey Graceffa]

I need to revisit last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, do you want to watch it? But it was like, oh, no. I want to be able to be like, a wig and pay attention.

[Joey Graceffa]

You got to be alert. Yeah, there's a lot going on in there for sure. But also with Patrick Schwarzenegger, I feel like I'm being gaslit into thinking he's like, the hottest guy live. Because everyone on Twitter is like, wow, the White Lotus always cast the hottest guys ever. And Patrick Schwarzenegger Fine, I guess. But he looks like a normal guy to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

It doesn't look, like, insanely hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't actually seen his face. I just keep seeing, like, the side angle of him naked. Yeah, it's pretty good.

[Joey Graceffa]

His body looks good, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

And this is no slight to Patrick Schwarzenegger. He is fine. Without thinking this random gay boy that thinks he's hot or not, he will be fine. I know it's. He doesn't give a hot face to me. I've never. I've never thought he was all about it. He just has, like, a normal looking face. I feel like if you went to any college, you would see a guy that looks like him. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes that's what people like. Kind of like Josh O'Connor. He's kind of the same where it's kind of like not hot. But I get the vibe he's more interesting, though.

[Joey Graceffa]

Like, he has more unique features. Just like, I feel like you could find him on any. Any frat.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get that. I get that. With Jacob Lordi, I'm kind of like, oh, he kind of looks like.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think. Yeah, I was gonna say if he wasn't like, gigantic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Yeah. I haven't seen his face.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know, but I think it's in the. In a specific category. It's in a nepo category of hot. In Nepo, he's hot. You know what I mean? Like, I guess it's not like a random person that got picked because they're hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's a hot nepo.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I know we already talked about this, but I think Joe Schwarzenegger is hotter.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah, I think so too. Banna. Let me make sure that's his last name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that like the Hulk? Like Eric Bana. Joe Bana. Joe's hotter. I would have put Joe in White Lotus. You know what I mean? Not to compare, but if we're talking.

[Joey Graceffa]

This is the spelling of B, A, E, na.

[Trisha Paytas]

Joe Bayna.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, he is really hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I don't know, maybe Patrick Schwarzenegger's hot. I don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't think. I think he's attractive, but I don't think he's, like, hot because. Yeah, the White Lotus. Like Theo James last season and the guy who played Aubrey Plaza's husband.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that guy. What's he been in?

[Joey Graceffa]

I like, I don't remember what else he's been in, but he was really hot, too. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Theo James. Was he kind of didn't do anything after either, did he? Or is he doing stuff?

[Joey Graceffa]

He's been in another show. I don't think it was big, though. I just remember Theo James from Divergent. You remember those movies?

[Trisha Paytas]

This was a young. Was he a kid?

[Joey Graceffa]

He was mid 20s, I think it was like the Hunger Games. Like knockoff. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Joey's the kids who eat it or something.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, there you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was supposed to play George Michael, I think Theo James, because I really liked him after that show. I was like, oh, who's this guy? And then he's supposed to play George Michael. Then he never heard anything again. I was like, what did he do after that?

[Joey Graceffa]

I think he's still around. He just did a campaign recently, I think I want to say Giorgio Armani or like a fright something for a fragrance where he, like wore a white Speedo and everyone was going crazy because.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was in a Speedo.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's pretty good looking. White Lotus kind of resurrects people's careers, huh?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, it does.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be the thing.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's the girl out of the season that's kind of popular? Posey. Parker Posey.

[Joey Graceffa]

Parker Posey. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Last thing I remember her in was Josie and the Pussycats with Alan Cummings.

[Joey Graceffa]

Forgot about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I loved her in that and I was kind of like, wait, this girl used to be in everything? And then I haven't seen her. And then I just. So she's the only name I recognize right away off the new White Lotus. I was like, oh, I want to see this.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. I didn't recognize people besides Parker. Posey too. And Patrick Schwarzenegger. The little brother was in the Perfect Couple on Netflix. It was like the Nicole Kidman show. I remember him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you know Mike White? Did you know he was on Survivor? First of all, you know, he casts everyone that was in his tribe.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes. He has them in little roles in the. In the White Lotus. If only you're on Survivor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well, never. The fact that he went on there. I was like, what is he doing on that show?

[Joey Graceffa]

I know it was before the White Lotus, though. But after School of Rock, there's a big gap between school, the rock and White.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's just doing nothing. He was just like, well, I'm just gonna chill.

[Joey Graceffa]

I remember his, like, little title in the. In Survivor was like a. Was writer. So he was really. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

He must have made a good money because he wrote School of Rock too. So he must have made good money from that.

[Joey Graceffa]

People just have Dreams of going on Survivor. Like, Monet exchange. I'm sure she's making good money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she on it?

[Joey Graceffa]

She. That's her dream is to go on Survivor.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. I literally asked Moses the other day. I was like, do you think he'd be good on Survivor? What was your answer? I forgot.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think so.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think you're pretty crafty. I feel like you could. You probably make a freaking bed out of, like, the leaves and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if I can see him on there. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess I should watch it first.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, there you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's really, like. I don't know if it's still like this.

[Joey Graceffa]

Do they, like, have to eat rats suffering? Yeah. Like you. It's kind of worse now, too. I mean, the period is shorter. I think it's two weeks now. Oh, so it's not as long.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it used to be like three months or something.

[Joey Graceffa]

It used to be longer. Yeah. But the suffering is definitely intensified because it's a shorter period of time. Like, they will take away, like, your knife and something and your flint. So if you lose, like, if you lose a challenge, the punishment is you take away your flint so you can't make fire and you take away the knife so you can't, like, cut a coconut and stuff, so you can't drink. It's like they have a water well, but, like, you. They can't. They don't have a knife to, like, to eat, basically. Like, if you get to catch a fish, you can't cut it open and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

So how do you eat? You don't.

[Joey Graceffa]

You have to. They eat like. Like sometimes if they're starving, they'll catch bugs and eat them. Like, I remember there's one scene, forget which season, but they found a worm and then they, like, split the worm so they could have a little protein.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Like, why. Why would you. Especially when you're Mike White. Like, I'm sure you have money.

[Joey Graceffa]

Don't do it, Mon.

[Moses Hacmon]

Can you fish? Can you get.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes. And then you can win. If you win a challenge, you can win fishing supplies. So that's one good thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's up? This is tubby.

[Moses Hacmon]

What was that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone's tummy. Or my tummy.

[Joey Graceffa]

Maybe it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

You hear the bubble? Did you hear it?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But was that.

[Joey Graceffa]

Was it your tummy?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't hear it. I was talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? It was so loud. It was like. It was like a girling.

[Joey Graceffa]

Maybe it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anybody wants a peanut Butter sandwich.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'd rather go on Survivor.

[Trisha Paytas]

He hates a peanut butter sandwich.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's a reward on Survivor. Like, if. If you went in a.

[Moses Hacmon]

Over there, I would eat it.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would eat a peanut butter sandwich on Survivor?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. You hate me.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's like a luxury. If they. They'll. If they have like a luxury challenge.

[Trisha Paytas]

Big Brother used to be like that too. They used to put the have nots on peanut butter and jelly and now.

[Joey Graceffa]

It'S slop, which is like a.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's that?

[Joey Graceffa]

It's like an oatmeal that's like unflavored, unseasoned.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why are people doing these shows? It sounds like torture.

[Joey Graceffa]

Honestly, it's just the love of the game. I could never do Survivor. I love the idea of it. Like, the idea of being such a strong and capable person that you can survive with no resources. Could it be me on a deserted island? I love the idea, but it could never be me either.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could never survive without Moses. Much less. Much less go on an island. I'm like, what the hell? People are insane.

[Joey Graceffa]

I would love to see how far you got.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I wouldn't. I. It's like when we play what's that game? Fortnite, and I can't even. I can't even land out of the helicopter. I'm like, well, how I supposed to do that?

[Joey Graceffa]

That's why it's, like, so fascinating. Like someone like Carolyn who's on the Traders right now because obviously, like, she's older, she's a woman. Like, everything is, like, working against her, you know, because, like, you're already going in with, like, not a lot of body fat, like, and then not like a ton of muscle. But she got all the way to, like, final four, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she younger?

[Joey Graceffa]

No, it's only like two years. A year or two years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. Yeah, well, she survived a lot before that. She was.

[Joey Graceffa]

She's tough.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you get through, like an actual addiction, like, I mean, you probably could survive anything.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, she is tough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

And you also work as a group.

[Joey Graceffa]

Right, For a certain part of it. Then it becomes, like, individual for, like the second half of the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Mike White made a part. He said it was second place or something. Did you watch it?

[Joey Graceffa]

I did. I've watched almost all of, like, mid to current Survivor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where do they film the same location all the time?

[Joey Graceffa]

Now they do now they film the same location. They. Before, they would switch islands, but now I forget where it is. But they film like two seasons up back to back, basically in One specific.

[Trisha Paytas]

Island, and Jeff probes to host it. My dream is to just have a job like that where I don't to do anything. I just. I'm hosting.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know. And then you get a producer credit and stuff. It's crazy. Like, same with Amazing Race and Julie Chan with Big Brother.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's Amazing Race. You have to travel. Well, I guess Survivor, you go to the island, but Julie's just going to Studio City. She's like, here I am.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's only like once a week, too, because everything else is just like the narration.

[Trisha Paytas]

The cushiest one is just Palmer on the Bachelor. He literally. I mean, he's not even there until the very end. He's like, here's the final rose and that's it. Nothing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Why? Why did you have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes I don't even think he's there. Then he shows up for the final rose. I'm like, why did he. Why did they fly him to freaking Timbuktu to announce the final rose?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's the craziest get to enjoy going out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Chris Harrison effed up. And also Jesse Palmer. Did you ever see his season of the Bachelor? Kind of the worst Bachelor in history. Like, he was kind of awful. Like, the women. I was like, how did he get this job? Like, Jose the Bachelor. Like, he was awful in his season.

[Joey Graceffa]

I haven't watched Bachelor since I think, like 2016, 2017, maybe the last time I saw it. Yeah, pretty good.

[Trisha Paytas]

We haven't gotten into the new one.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yet, but did you watch Gabby Windy season of Bachelorette?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, we started way late. Yeah, we started like 2022.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think that was. It must have been the gap when I stopped watching because I didn't. I wasn't familiar with her at all, but obviously, like, stan her now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know I want to watch it. I need to watch it.

[Joey Graceffa]

Shane. I want to go back and watch it. Because was if she was like a co Bachelorette, I wonder what that dynamic was. Like, especially pre becoming lesbian or coming out as lesbian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, how do you interact with, like, already those guys would annoy me. But then if you have lesbian and you, like, maybe didn't know or something, I'm like, really good.

[Joey Graceffa]

That sealed the deal. It's like, damn. Maybe that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was like, I'm actually gay after this. I don't blame you, girl, because the people on the show are awful. They're just the worst.

[Joey Graceffa]

Even Amazing Grace. I heard, like, the money that the contestants get is like, nothing. And I guess in this next season of Amazing Race, they're getting, like, people who are on other reality shows, and a lot of them turned it down because they would lose a ton of money if they went on, which is, like, kind of insane because Joey did it twice.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? We probably didn't need the money.

[Joey Graceffa]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think there was a girl that was on the trainers that said that. Who's the one? That blonde hair. She was on the second season of the trailer. She had, like, Janelle, baby.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah, Janelle.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's like. She goes, rally TVs like, an expensive hobby. Like, I had to turn down shows because, like, it's just not worth it. Joy probably didn't need the money at the time. I was like, yeah, because I want to say, I want to see even big brothers like that where they only give, like, 100 or 200 for big.

[Joey Graceffa]

Brother is small, but so little in Amazing Race, too, because they only have a certain amount of money for the traveling, so. And the challenges and stuff. So they would, like, also, like, one girl was saying how she desperately wanted face wash, but a. There were two girl teams, so they couldn't carry a lot of weight, so they needed, like, not. Not as much stuff in their bags. But also, they were that to save their money, so they were sisters. And she was like, please, Rachel, please can I get face wash? Like, my skin is, like, peeling off. She's like, no, we cannot spend the money and we cannot carry any more weight. It was like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would do Amazing Grace.

[Joey Graceffa]

I really wanted to. I had an Amazing Race hyper fixation, like, two years ago where I was watching all the seasons, and I love the idea. Yeah, it's still on. I like the idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seems hard.

[Joey Graceffa]

And me and Darian watched it together, so we were like, oh, how. How would we do if we were, like, a couple on the Amazing Race? It would not go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why? This would be.

[Joey Graceffa]

Because we both have very different approaches to, like, puzzles and stuff. And then when each of us gets stressed, we're, like, very moody, so it would, like, we'd bicker for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't see that. I would never see that for either of you. That's so weird.

[Joey Graceffa]

We definitely would beg our. You know, I'm also very competitive, too, so, like, when I'm running and then Amazing Race, you can see, like, how close other teams are, too. So that's, like, extra pressure. You can. You kind of know when you're in last place or not.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. Like, how close are they that you see someone in the airport? Like, there they are.

[Joey Graceffa]

They fly together for the most part.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unless they miss a flight. I see the ones where they. I used to watch it back in.

[Joey Graceffa]

The day, and you and Moses and Amazing Race would be. You try to run.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, we would flop the first day. I could never do that show. That's crazy. That show is so wild. Like jumping into the ocean and getting stuff. I was like, what the hell? Even traders, some of those physical activities. I was like, luckily you don't have to compete it for the traitors. But Amazing Race, you have to complete the missions. It's all physical. I kind of. We could do it. Well, you never seen it. Have you seen it?

[Moses Hacmon]

Years and years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have to travel across the world and it's just like. And who has it last show up in the destination, it gets eliminated.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, I think Joey said that even, like, peeing, like, they wouldn't stop to pee because it's like a waste of, like, you're losing time.

[Trisha Paytas]

How far did he get?

[Joey Graceffa]

I think he got, like, to the final five on his first season. And then the second season he got eliminated, like, third, I think. So he didn't get as far on the.

[Trisha Paytas]

With Megan both times.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Strawberry.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think Tyler Oakley got second place when he was in it. Or maybe maybe one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Tyler Oakley was making the rounds.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

All he was on. I didn't know. Damn. What he's doing now.

[Joey Graceffa]

He's streaming on Twitch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. He's also making $30 million. That big.

[Joey Graceffa]

And I think he's like, a landlord and stuff too. I think he, like, owned apartment complexes or something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Bougie, that's crazy. Good for him. He's like, I don't need to do YouTube anymore. I am a landlord. I'm sorry. Landlord sounds awful, though. Like, to have to, like, deal with everyone's, like, problems.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know. And then you get like the little maintenance request. Because I. I even my. With like, my apartment, I'm like, every time I send a maintenance request, I feel like such a little, like, brat or whatever. I'm sending them few and far between. But I'm also like, I pay rent. So it's like, you should feel that way.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if I was a landlord, I'd be like, jesus, like, what? But I just know how it is. Take care of this house. I mean, I don't even do it. Moses does it. But I'm all like, damn, another leak. Like, to fix is so annoying. I'd be like, just stick a freaking gum up there or something, you know? What? I mean, I would hate, I complain all the time when I was in an apartment. Like if I saw a cockroach, a leak, a thing, I'm like, what the hell is going on?

[Joey Graceffa]

Luckily my apartment is pretty. So I mean, it's like, I don't know, I think it's an older building, but you know, back in the day if like they built buildings a lot sturdier than they do now. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yours is an older one. Oh yeah, yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's a really old building.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh God.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were watching something. We were watching that had like old buildings. It was so pretty. It was like all this construction at the top. Like it was so pretty. We're watching. You don't remember. Damn it. It was so, so pretty. I was like, damn. Why don't they make buildings like that anymore? Because, yeah, like all the ones in Italy are like, they just stand, you know, the test of time. All these new homes, they just like crumble. Yeah, but you should never feel guilty if you're a renter because they're charging you more than what they're paying in mortgage. You know what I mean? You just, they, that's what they're working for. Literally. I hate to be a landlord, but also they're making the coin. They're up charging you. They're not giving you the price of admission.

[Joey Graceffa]

That doesn't remind me I saw earlier where people were like, thought I. The 1500 I paid for rent was like half. But that's literally what we pay for rent is 1500 for the whole apartment. But it's like it's old. Also we don't have like a washer and dryer. So I like do laundry at my parents house. So there's no like amenities really. But I mean for a living space, it's really.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I wish because you're in a good area, you're very central. It's like a nice area. Like I was kind of shook by that because like I said, I think I paid 1500 back in like 2006 for like a crappy one in Hollywood.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think also like the farther you get out of la. Yeah, it does get cheaper out this way, honestly. Tea? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

How much apartments are out here?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, it must be around. Probably around the same as me. A little bit cheaper, I would think. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Move far out from the city because people like to be. When I was like in Hollywood, I think it was, I mean maybe it was like 900 in 2006, but it was like a hole in the wall, like studio, like nothing Doorknob was not on even.

[Joey Graceffa]

Studios are really, really expensive in the city these days. Like, way more than I pay for a studio in, like, in West Hollywood or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So complain if there's ever a leak. That's their job. They're charging you more than they should.

[Joey Graceffa]

This is kind of the financial episode, I guess, but I had another money hot topic exposing salaries. Millie Bobby Brown talked about how actors salaries shouldn't be revealed to protect the actors, which I thought was interesting because basically a report came out that she made $10 million from the movie Enola Holmes. And she said. And then her salary for Stranger Things for the latest season of Stranger Things was $250,000 an episode. And she never confirmed or denied the amount that she made, but she said in order to protect especially the younger actors and their careers, that they. These salaries should be protected and not public information. And she said it puts children in a really dangerous situation, like a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Being taken advantage of.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Which. And also, I think, too, if you think, like, the Bling Ring vibes, like, maybe it makes them a target for, I don't know, like, burglaries or something. I guess, especially. I think it's pretty easy to find out where celebrities live these days. I feel like if you Google, like, celebrities houses, usually people find it pretty quickly because it's so public. But then I was thinking, I'm like, well, you're also, like, when you work for a studio like Netflix, it's a publicly traded company. So, like, if you have people investing and stuff, like, you kind of need to know how they're spending money. So I don't know. I was kind of like, Millie, it's a little out of touch. I think I see her perspective because, like, you don't want to be a target because, like, you don't want people to know you're making $10 million for this one movie. But that's the business. It's publicly traded. I feel like people need to know how the money is being spent, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Guess, in that perspective, because at first I was like, well, no, it makes sense to, like, not disclose or. Right. I like it when they disclose it. When you could, like, was it Michelle Williams who was making, like, way less than, like, Mark Wahlberg or something like that? Like, there was a movie discrepancy where the man was making, like, 20 million. The girl made, like, 2 million.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think in, like, that sense, it's, like, good to know. But look at there. Was their salaries revealed?

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't think it was revealed. There was speculation that Ariana's salary was way more. But then the studio shut that down really quickly and said they were paid the same amount. Ariana and Cynthia Revo. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

As colleagues, maybe children you shouldn't like disclose their salary. I don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think, yeah, I'm trying to think. When did Enola. Let me see when Enola Holmes came out. I want to see how old.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never even heard of that movie. It's like Sherlock Holmes.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, it's like his niece or something. I want to say it's like a girl version of Sherlock Holmes.

[Trisha Paytas]

A common name. I never heard. Heard that name.

[Joey Graceffa]

I have no idea. Enola, that came out in 2020. Let me see how old.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, should be. She always seems like a child but she's probably an adult now.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh yeah, she is 20 years old now.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she's 20 years old now.

[Joey Graceffa]

So she would have been 16 I guess when that number came out. I guess that kind of makes sense if you're a minor. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because like people are just like taking.

[Joey Graceffa]

Especially if you don't. Right. Like she wouldn't have acts complete control over her money. So I guess that does make sense if you're a minor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. To like be.

[Joey Graceffa]

To not have that out there. But I do, I don't know. I like when they say when they. Especially for big budget movies like this is how much this person made and obviously you have to have the knowledge that like yes, she got $10 million but then it's like her agent takes away and management takes a percentage. Her publicist takes a percentage.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like people don't think about stuff like that.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, they don't. They just see 10 million and things. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Taxes is 5 million million.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

And then all the other cuts after that. So realistically from a ten million dollar payday, what would she make like maybe like three.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was a big news with Mr. Beast winner, right?

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

They got ten million dollar but actually in their pocket they only got five million after taxes and people were like up in arms about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But well, what if that's just normal?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, that's just how it is with any reality show.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's my biggest grievance with the lottery too. Like if you win 100 million, 50 million goes to the government. Yeah, but they didn't even do anything. You know what I mean? It's kind of like oh here we collect all this money, you get half of it, then we're going to take half of it too. Which is like crazy. I mean if I Win, I'll pay you half. But then if you take the cash. I think I've talked about this before. It's $100 million, right. If you win, 50 million goes to the government, 50 million goes to you. Then you can either choose to get the 50 million over the course of like, like 30 years, or you could take like 20 million up front and then not get the rest of it. Oh, so they probably bake it on people like dying or something like, because he doesn't get transferred either. Like, if you die, it doesn't go to next to kid. It's just like, well, that person's dead. We don't have to give it to you.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, it doesn't get inherited or anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, they just not pay you. So. So people what?

[Moses Hacmon]

You can.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So if you want 100 million, you're really only gonna get 20 million. But the kicker is sometimes it's only $20 million, the jackpot. So really you're gonna get like $2 million.

[Moses Hacmon]

But yeah, it doesn't make sense to tax it because it's almost like donation. Like everyone is putting money in a pool. Yeah. Like there's no work being done. You're not taxing any work or a product or anything. So I mean, it doesn't make sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

But look, I'll pay it. If I wouldn't. I'll pay it. I pay taxes. Remember when people were gonna stop paying taxes? When Tick Tock was getting banned? They're like, we're gonna stop. Everyone was saying that because they're like, our government's taking away our income and all this stuff like that. And they're like, we're just going to stop paying tax. I guess if you stop making money, I guess you could stop paying taxes. I guess. I don't know, but I'm paying taxes.

[Joey Graceffa]

Speaking of tiktokers, what did you think of the Matt and Abby drama over Matt doing a solo podcast? What? Oh, wait, you didn't see this?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Wait a minute.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's kind of everywhere. I thought you would have seen it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is this the one where he's like laying in bed in the closet?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought it was just like part of their podcast or something.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, he started his own solo podcast. And. And he revealed that he is now sleeping in the closet for his mental health. He moved a mattress into his closet. That's where they filming the podcast. And also, if you guys don't know, we talked about them before. Matt and Abby, Tik Tok, couple Christians, have a little relationship podcast. And now A little solo podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Christian.

[Joey Graceffa]

Christian Influencers is another whole shtick.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know that. I didn't know they were, like, super Christian.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, it's the whole thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even worse than the relationship advice.

[Moses Hacmon]

He had to go in the closet, sleep in the closet.

[Joey Graceffa]

That was the whole thing. Like, he was saying how he has to go into his. He's sleeping separate from Abby currently. And the closet, even though they have guest bedrooms and stuff, the closet was the most comfortable space because there's no windows in there, so it's easier to black out instead of, I don't know, getting blackout curtains for the guest room. Then he also sets up a camera on his ceiling.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I don't understand, like, laying down.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what is it? It's like a jib.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, a jib. Yeah. Yeah. It's either, like, install the camera on the ceiling, or it's just, like a rigs that, like, films the overhead. But he's, like, laying down. It's also, like, a solo one.

[Trisha Paytas]

No one asked for that.

[Joey Graceffa]

No one asked for it.

[Moses Hacmon]

No one asked.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were boring together. You're definitely gonna be boring alone.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm feeling he's gonna be streaming 247 from the ceiling, sleeping and all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Something about. That's weird.

[Joey Graceffa]

It is very odd.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then even she was like, well, I. I don't like sleeping alone. Like, this should be a decision we made together. She goes, I don't like you sleeping. I don't want to sleep alone.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, well, that's what I got to do for my. What's. I'm all for mental health, but also, what is the benefit of it? Like, what is he saying? Like, he can't.

[Joey Graceffa]

Anxiety, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I think, Mary, you married the wrong person, because, like, usually people, like, want to sleep next to their spouse. Right? I mean, I guess there's people who, like, have separate beds.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I guess I can't maybe. Okay, well. But she's like, I don't like it. So to me, that's grounds for divorce. Because if, like, Moses, like, I want to sleep a different bag. That's the whole reason I married you, is to, like, sleep next to you. Like, that's the whole point. It would be so weird, I guess, if you like it. Okay. If both of you are like, yes, I like a separate. Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

But that's why I'm like, obviously, him clipping that and making it tick tock and stuff is kind of like rage bait.

[Trisha Paytas]

And at this point, that's all they do. They piss me off.

[Joey Graceffa]

I'm like. Because that's how it always comes out to, like, Matt does something stupid. Everyone's like, abby, like, why don't you get divorced? She's in on it, right? Like, she had. I'm sure she said that specific thing to get people annoyed and get people talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, just, like, so annoying, though, because, like, why? Like, you have kids. Like, that's so embarrassing. Like, you guys are just creating problems that your kids will see and be like, y'all are weird.

[Joey Graceffa]

Like, it reminds me of, like, very Ace family vibes, too. It's like, embarrassing yourselves in order to get views and I guess, thus money. But is it worth it to, like, look like clowns? I don't think.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. The answer is no. I think, like, there's one thing. I think one thing everyone can agree on is, like, parents is like, you don't. Like, you don't embarrass your kids. You know what I mean? Like, and especially, like, if you're creating fake situations like this, like, it's just embarrassing to your family. It's like, okay, your mom and dad, like, that. I don't know. It just looks bad. It looks weird. Like, oh, your mom and dad left you on the cruise. It's like, that's not cute. That looks like. You know what I mean? Like, what? Like, and maybe they think they're being quirky or they're getting views or whatever, but it's like, there's children involved. And, like, that's. That's so weird to me. I don't. I don't know. I think. I think that's, like, one thing people can universally, like, agree upon is like, don't embarrass your kids.

[Moses Hacmon]

And they're doing that, too. I saw Austin on a date with Shoty Bay for Valentine's recently. Yeah, on a date.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean. I mean, that's fine, I guess, if you want to do that.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I'm saying, like, again, there's kids sitting at home watching your dad. Like, it's for content. Not.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a little different. I think, like, the clownery comes in when it's like, you put your kids in the middle of it somehow or, you know, like, you're just going on a shiny bay. Whatever. I mean, I think that's, like, a. Not a big thing. I think it's more. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I just think if kids. If parents divorce, the last thing kids want to see is their parents on their dates on their social media. You know what I mean? Something that it's almost like this is private. It's private life that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think that's bad. I don't think that part's bad. I think it's like, like you said, when the kids are, like, directly involved, like, you know, I don't know. The unplanned podcast is like, so much about their kids and, like, being a family and, like, whatever. It's like the LeBrant family, Ace family. There's like, better examples of them being like, I don't know, an embarrassment. You remember when he's like, stalking Catherine in the trailer?

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like that kind of stuff is like, what? You know what I mean? Where it feels real, but it's not. Maybe whatever. Like a content date is like, not the worst thing, I don't think, but. Or even a date. But he did a one, too. Was Austin just interviewed his daughter, I think, recently. Did you see that?

[Joey Graceffa]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

He interviewed his oldest and she was talking like, I guess this is the thing. Like, it's so. It's so hard because it's like they're kids, right? So you don't want to judge, but then you're kind of like, why did you, like, air it? He is interviewing his daughter, his oldest one asked her what she wanted to be when she grew up, and she said she wanted to be a stay at home mom. And then he was like, oh, but don't you want to, like, make the money or what if you're the breadwinner? And she's like, no, I'm just gonna have a rich husband. And then he's like, oh, well, what if, like, you know, what if he leaves you and the kids and then you have no money or something? She goes, well, I'm not gonna work. Like, it was just such a weird conversation to have. And she's eight and they're talking about she wants two kids and he's asking her about, like, the babies. And I'm like, this is just such a weird conversation to put out with your child. So I don't know. There is so many. I don't know. It's such a fine line because I, like, put stuff out about Malibu, but I just don't know what you think is, like, cute and quirky may not be to them, you know, like, later on in life. Because here she is, like, eight, being like, I don't want to work. I want to be a stay at home mom and have a rich, like, like, obviously hears that from somewhere. And it's like, this is such a Wild thing to put out there for your child, you know what I mean? When she doesn't probably even comprehend what she's saying, you know, fully.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, because I'm trying to think, I feel like when words done better I think like I haven't seen a ton of Bretman mock stuff but like when Bretman has like, you know, Cleo on who's like. I think she may maybe around like 10ish now I think. Right. But that's done, I think very tactfully because it feels like she in the. With what's his name? Ace. What's his name?

[Trisha Paytas]

He does seem like he should be called Ace. Where did Ace family come from?

[Moses Hacmon]

Austin Broom.

[Joey Graceffa]

It seems like she's more like the butt of the joke. Whereas there's just ways to have like kid friendly content with kids where they're not the joke, you know, where you can get like the kids perspective. There's that other podcast. God, I'm forgetting what it's called. There's tick tock clips all the time where like that guy interviews little kids. I forget what it's called.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know that one.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's really popular. There's like these little. He goes and he like asks them questions about life or stuff and they give their perspective on things. But it's like very wholesome way. It's more like it's cute because you see life through like the kid's eyes. Like the world through the kid's eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Versus like making them the butt of the joke, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know it was such a weird interview because he was like doing it sincerely. But also it's kind of like this is kind of awkward to like watch. And he says it too. He's like, you're eight, why are we talking about kids? I'm like, I don't know why you talking about her having kids. Like it seems the whole thing seems so odd. But I don't know. Matt and Abby though are the worst. I mean I actually prefer Austin. He seems to be tamed out. Matt and Abby, just their rage meeting is crazy. Them leaving the kids in the room and then backpedaling when it's like, oh wait, this is actually a serious thing that we did. If it was a joke or whatever. It's just, I don't know, I don't know how they have a platform. Like who?

[Joey Graceffa]

I guess that's what I was gonna say. They have genuine fans or do they have people that watch to be annoyed?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think just to watch me annoyed. Like I always Just see clips of my tick tocks. I think it's just people.

[Joey Graceffa]

I was looking at their views.

[Trisha Paytas]

They.

[Joey Graceffa]

They do get decent views though. Like, they get like. I mean, it ranges, but they get like 300,000, 500,000 Raven. Simone was on it last month.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Joey Graceffa]

Like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't get it. I don't get it.

[Joey Graceffa]

How are. Like, they're so.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Joey Graceffa]

I'm actually puzzled because it's like, what? They just don't seem like great people, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not at all. The relationship seems toxic. If it's real or if they're putting out rage bait, whatever, it's working. Like what they're. What they're putting out, what they're advertising is a toxic relationship. Matt loves attention. He's like, I can't believe People magazine wrote about me twice about being a whole husband. It's like, why is that like a flex? Like, it's so weird. She's always like defending him. It's just. And they're young too. It's not like they've tried everything and nothing's working. So like, let's rage. Wait to get some money because we need it. It's like they're young. They could be doing so many other things. He's trying to make music and I don't know. There. God. Who is watching? Let us know in the comments below. Do you like Matt Navi? What are we not seeing?

[Joey Graceffa]

No, what are we not seeing? Truly objectively, they seem kind of terrible. But I don't know, maybe we're missing.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you're Christian and you need creators.

[Trisha Paytas]

That share the values, go to Lebrant family. Because honestly, they pissed me off. But I like them. They probably have cute kids, they have cute families.

[Moses Hacmon]

They probably have the same audience, you know, stay there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Same with I love Branson. I like that. I mean, I hate their views on so many things. Remember they did that weird anti abortion documentary?

[Joey Graceffa]

No, I have. I have not heard about them. I want to say they were on Amazing Race. I think Cole was on Amazing. Is that his name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Cole Dead? Yeah. Colin. Savannah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Not Savannah. I think he went with like his mom or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that makes sense. She's kind of fit. She's kind of like young and fit looking.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, he was on Amazing Race. That's the only reason I know. What season was this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably influencer season.

[Joey Graceffa]

Racing season 28.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did they win? Oh, he'd probably be good on that show.

[Joey Graceffa]

I'm like, he was weird. I think it was 19 at the time. That's crazy. In 2016.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it the influencer one or was it just a regular season?

[Joey Graceffa]

Influencer season. A Tyler Oakley season.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who won that season?

[Joey Graceffa]

Let's see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. I would watch it. Yeah, I, like, weirdly like them. I don't know why they're like. They're so problematic, but they have charm. I mean, Matt Nabi have zero charm. At least Cole and Savannah seem. Why do they all look like each other, too? Like, why? When they, like these Christian families, they all like blonde, blue eyes and they just find each other. I just. I don't know. It's like, I don't want to marry someone and have kids that look just like me. It's kind of weird.

[Joey Graceffa]

Matt. Do you know Matt Stefanina?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was.

[Joey Graceffa]

He was a dancer. Oh, yes. Okay. He does look familiar. I was like, that name sounds really.

[Trisha Paytas]

He won.

[Joey Graceffa]

Who was his partner? Dana Borello. I guess they were dating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. He seems nice. I don't really know him, but he seems nice. He's like, in the dance world for youtubers.

[Joey Graceffa]

I want another influencer season of Amazing Race so you can be on it. That's my new manifestation.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could. I would just literally say no because I just would make it a day. Probably not even that. There's no way. There's, like, search shows. No way. Survivor, that show. No. Even Traitor seems hard.

[Joey Graceffa]

Honestly, would you have done Amazing Race like, back in your, like, single days where you were doing, like, any show? Even back then?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they asked. I think they asked me to audition for the influencer one and I was like, wow. Yeah, I think they asked a couple times and I was like, like, no, that sounds.

[Joey Graceffa]

You and Cola Brandt on the masonry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I would. And who would I have gone on with? I guess my sister or something. Maybe that was the issue. I couldn't find someone. I don't know. Me and Shane.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's what I was gonna say.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'd be awful. I see Matt and Abby going to be closed.

[Joey Graceffa]

Do you know they're gonna be on next season?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. They're just. They're just awful. Well, just keep sleeping in the closet. How many people are watching his solo podcast? That's what we need.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's a good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it on YouTube?

[Joey Graceffa]

Let me see. I don't even know what's like, from Matt and Navy solo podcast. What is it even called? Oh, here we go. This the Matt Howard show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that's what it's called.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's just called what is 100,000 views.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, damn. Okay. I guess they're getting Fans.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, I guess they have fans.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if they play Radio City music. They probably get. Probably get that.

[Joey Graceffa]

I want to see them on tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. What is happening in this world?

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, it's called Night Shift. What is his show?

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that Mike Malak's show? It definitely is. He has the Night Shift. Weird.

[Joey Graceffa]

No idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Probably no crossover audience there. Impulsive texted me yesterday. Or was that Sunday? They're like someone from a New York. Oh, it was yesterday. Someone from a New York never called. I guess I'm saying this. Who cares? And then they texted me, and they're like, hey, this is. I won't say the name, but obviously not one of the hosts. Like, someone from Impulsive. Is this still your number? Like, tell me what you want first. I'm not responding, but it was so weird. Moses thinks he still works for Impulsive. I think it was like he met me when he worked for Impulsive.

[Joey Graceffa]

I left somewhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like he's somewhere else now.

[Joey Graceffa]

Would you go on Impulsive?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't think it was still around. No, I don't think that's my cup of tea anymore, but I can't believe I went out the first time. Like, if I haven't watched it, but sometimes I see clips. Oh, my God. That is, like, So I was definitely, like, being pick me. And I was, like, 31. I was only being a pick me. I was being so extra. I don't know what was wrong with me. That was 2019. A lot was wrong with me that year.

[Joey Graceffa]

But you did have the sparkly makeup.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's how that skinniest I've ever been on that show. Oh, my God. I think I was, like, 170. I was, like, so skinny on that show. Miserable.

[Joey Graceffa]

How many Kilos?

[Trisha Paytas]

I was 80 kilos. The kilos is wild.

[Joey Graceffa]

Did you see do you know Avery woods, the Tick Tocker?

[Trisha Paytas]

Avery Woods, Moms?

[Joey Graceffa]

No, I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. It sounds so familiar, too. I don't know. I probably know, but I don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

Well, she had to apologize because she was in some backlash because she had a podcast episode with Harry Jowsey, the root of all evil.

[Trisha Paytas]

How is he still around? It's crazy. Who is listening and watching Harry Dowsing in 2025?

[Joey Graceffa]

So they had a podcast on this episode, on this podcast called Cheers. They had an episode together, and they talked about religion. I'll just play the clip because it is kind of crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah, I'll just play the clip and then we'll Talk after her. Really.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's always the really Christian men. Isn't that so funny?

[Joey Graceffa]

And that's why I'm not even Christian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Say I've never been religious, but I. All my haters have, like, like, Blessed Mama 4 in their bio, and they're like, you're a fat, ugly mom. You're a. You're. You're. Your kids are like, just like. But then in your bio, it's like.

[Joey Graceffa]

Psalms 3, 6, 9.

[Trisha Paytas]

Blessed mommy of four. Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Like, Jesus is gonna spank you, lady.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you keep it up. Yeah. Literally, he's gonna bend you over and, oh, my God.

[Joey Graceffa]

Jesus is gonna go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Poo pirate on you if you keep up this. First of all, I don't even know where to start on that clip.

[Joey Graceffa]

So she got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

What are they talking about? I don't know who she is. She seems nice. Is she liked? I don't know. Maybe I know her. I don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

I honestly have never heard of her before. I just heard about this. This drama, and obviously.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is there drama?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. So she ended up having to clip that out of the podcast because it sparked so much backlash.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that is a crazy.

[Joey Graceffa]

I get the point of what she was saying. Like, you know, it's hypocritical for people who are Christian that, you know, berate her for, you know, her sexuality or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some of the most hypocritical people.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why they get a bad name.

[Joey Graceffa]

But then you don't got to bring Jesus railing you into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, wild.

[Joey Graceffa]

Where did that come from?

[Trisha Paytas]

But I was like, pooh pirate. Like, she's thinking. She's going graphic. I was like, girl.

[Joey Graceffa]

She had to issue an apology after all the backlash much. I mean, and she pro. This is my favorite. I love when this quote is used in an apology. She said that she is, quote, learning and will do better. She forgot the unlearning.

[Trisha Paytas]

She said, learning I will do better.

[Joey Graceffa]

She said, this is one of those things where I never, ever want to offend people in their beliefs. First of all, I just want to say my podcast is a comedy podcast, and there are jokes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Excuse.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's always, we're a comedy podcast, everybody. That's crazy. Is she a comedian girl? I don't think so.

[Joey Graceffa]

You're having Harry Jowsey on, who is chronically unfunny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, exactly. That was crazy. And then also to be like, it never means. You bet anyone. So let Jesus from behind. That's crazy. You didn't say that. I'm like, God, Jesus, you don't strike me down. That's the craziest thing.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, my God. She said the episode that I did with Harry was scripted. These were questions that were written by producers. I probably should have spoken up and maybe dimmed it down a bit. I don't think a writer wrote you. Jesus is gonna poo pirate you. Like what? I think that came from your brain.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so too. And if there was a writer that wrote these questions, fire them immediately. Like, what is this? This is. So what was the question? What was it? What did they write?

[Joey Graceffa]

She was just talking about, oh, it's the Christians that are leaving her bad comments and stuff. It's like, damn, if she just left.

[Trisha Paytas]

At that, I would have been with her. But, yes, that is the case a lot. I get what she say, but that was crazy.

[Joey Graceffa]

She took it to a level it didn't need to go. And then I saw a clip from the end of the podcast. I believe she is. Let me make sure. I believe she is married. Yeah, so she is married. But at the end, she, like, tries to ask Carrie, like, oh, would you and would you sleep with me? And before she finishes the question, he's like, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, she asked him that?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did she ask the writers, Daniel's writers, they had to write it. Oh, God. I don't want to ask this, but would you sleep with me?

[Joey Graceffa]

This podcast seems nuts. Too many.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then what happened? He. He was. He said.

[Joey Graceffa]

He said. He was. Said yes, enthusiastically before the. Like, before she even finished the question, he was like, yes. And that was the end of the book.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, she sounds like a riot. I need to look into her. Avery was.

[Joey Graceffa]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gonna judge before I know, but.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, my God, it's. It's wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess people have to get their podcasts out there these days, you know? Yeah, you have to make a name for yourself, yourself. She'll forever be known as the Pooh pirate of the podcast world.

[Joey Graceffa]

There's a TikTok, a girl on TikTok who has the same name, Avery Woods. And so she lost 30,000 followers because people thought it was her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, that's. Just apologize to that Avery Wood.

[Joey Graceffa]

She had to post a tik tok. Say this girl who's not the girl who was on the podcast at me looking at how many followers I've lost after sharing the same name as someone. She lost 30k followers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Joey Graceffa]

Thank God there's no other Trisha Pantas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is out there, you imagine. Oh, my gosh. I have to sue Immediately, I think it's just so wild for me. Like, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I was like, first of all, like, why are you talking about Jesus then? You're offend half the world if you're going to talk about Jesus. You know what I mean? Anything religious again.

[Joey Graceffa]

Harry Jowsey, root of all evil, too. Harry's the one that kind of enticed it. He said, harry, Jesus is going to come over and spank you. But meanwhile.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he say that? What did she say? She took it.

[Joey Graceffa]

Then she took it to. He's going to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spanky was like, you're naughty. I'll spank you.

[Joey Graceffa]

But she's like, he made it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's going to bed you over. I was like, girl, what the hell is happening?

[Joey Graceffa]

Is just not so. I've never even heard that crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. It's very specific, too, because. Yeah, okay.

[Joey Graceffa]

I just have never even heard of it. It's like, okay. Creative, I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she took it out, though. She's like, I got to remove it.

[Joey Graceffa]

She cut it out of the YouTube video. Yeah, but people already clipped it. It's called Cheers with Avery. All right, Cheers. Cheers to you, everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is crazy. I mean, we have a podcast.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say we have two, but also, it's like, everybody has a podcast.

[Joey Graceffa]

You and Matt Howard have two podcasts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, but I will say I was an original podcaster. My dishwasher started 2014. Okay. Check it on SoundCloud. Shane Dawson was my first episode. So I was like an OG podcaster.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had had 13 podcasts at the store.

[Joey Graceffa]

The doors you've opened.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, exactly. So I get to have podcasts forever. But everyone else, I don't think everyone needs one. Chloe doesn't need one.

[Joey Graceffa]

Chloe in Paradise. Chloe in Wonderland.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chloe, don't eat it. Love her, but also don't eat it. This girl. No, she's qualified. There's someone else. Oh, no, not a Bethy, but Grace started a podcast. Grace O'Malley.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah. Disgraceful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She's like, this isn't a podcast. This is a comedy show. This is this 70s sitcom. Think Carson. What comedian on comedian. You didn't see? That was her description. Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

I was like, I think, is she just talking?

[Trisha Paytas]

She said it's comedians on comedians getting bantered together. I'm like, that's a podcast. That sounds like a podcast. That sounds like bad friends. Also, I think it's just. Yeah, I guess she has guests. I just love when people try to frame it. Love Grace, by the way. No hate to her.

[Joey Graceffa]

Don't reinvent the wheel. Like, you know, the wheel works for a reason.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was at my. This is a podcast. This is a talk show. Do you see my Wendy Williams chair? You see I'm holding a microphone. People are so funny, but good luck. She looked completely different. I think I was. I think we're at dinner and I was like. I was scrolling through and I saw her. She looked really good. She had like so much makeup. She had like heavy eyes, everything. I was like, oh, my God, I don't even recognize her. And then I was reading the description and I was like, well, I guess you have to stand out somehow. I want to see it though. Just a 70s late night Carson. I was like, I need to see this podcast.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know. I mean, with the unwell budget, I want to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it's production. That'd be crazy. She had like a desk and she's like sitting there like Johnny Carson. That'd be kind of cool, actually.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, this graceful podcast has. There's only one review, but it has. It's one star on Apple podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's it say? I don't have one star. Some haters out there to get her.

[Joey Graceffa]

It does. Just one star.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Joey Graceffa]

One review, one star. That's all it gets. It doesn't even have a written review. Just one star.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should look at our reviews. Do you ever look at them on like Apple or anything like that? What people say about our show.

[Joey Graceffa]

Remember we used to ask people to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, that was our company. Be like, hey, ask for Apple reviews. I'm like, okay.

[Joey Graceffa]

I do wonder what our reviews are.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder what it is. This is the best. Like, what's our rating?

[Joey Graceffa]

I kind of am curious. I'm gonna look it up actually. 4.9 out of 5. How many reviews and ratings this is 2.8000 reviews.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Joey Graceffa]

Thank you guys for the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. World was five stars. That's crazy. What's the first review say?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, I don't know if we can read them, but we'll take the 4.9 stars. Love. The critics are raving. I won. Oh, we should do a little commercial. Like that. I love, like the. The critics are raving. Just Trish, a smashing success, you know, like something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like that. Like Wendy used to do. Jimmy, can we have a commercial? I would love that.

[Joey Graceffa]

I'd be so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll play it in my eras tour.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, that's a good idea. Commercial brand sponsored by Just Trish Entertainment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Check out the podcast. If you love this show, we have a podcast.

[Joey Graceffa]

Want more Trish?

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, more Trish.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's a good billboard campaign.

[Trisha Paytas]

More Trish should be like our second podcast.

[Joey Graceffa]

More Trish.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's just Trish or there's more Trish.

[Joey Graceffa]

You're third. Why not throw it in? Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just started, like, a whole new podcast again.

[Joey Graceffa]

The Just Trish network is all just your show.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so good. The Trish network is just all me.

[Joey Graceffa]

Bring back the lost podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I really should. Me and Moses will have a podcast. Nobody asked for this podcast. I call Moses and Trish if it's gonna be a Trish. No, your name can't be in. It has to be like, Trisha has.

[Moses Hacmon]

The one in the. In my closet in the shower. I'm just gonna put it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your fish one is kind of giving that vibe. I always just see you in the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I have to hide somewhere from all the noise.

[Trisha Paytas]

People like it. Critics are raving. They love the fish reviews. Check out my, oh, my music videos out today. I might even say that my new music videos that say where Moses is eating. I wonder if I'll make the cut. You eating the fish?

[Moses Hacmon]

Where. Where is the video coming out on YouTube. Your main channel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Main channel?

[Joey Graceffa]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody watches that channel. I should probably make a whole new channel.

[Moses Hacmon]

A lot of people asking, like, they're excited when the tour is over for you to come back to the main channel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's been done. It's not because of the tour. That channel has been dead and dead. I think it's my music channel now, so I don't know what I even do. Because Patreon, we eat and we do reaction videos maybe. I don't know. On Tick Tock, I eat. Go to my Tick Tock. I think your vlog.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was about to go back to YouTube. You guys almost got me. I was like, I guess we're gonna go back to the mukbangs. TikTok's just easy. It's just so easy. Like, upload.

[Joey Graceffa]

I mean, you did that on YouTube too. You just upload.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but you have to do that extra step of, like, airdropping to your computer. Oh, I see what you TikTok is like in the app.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think you can. Can you upload on the YouTube app on your phone?

[Moses Hacmon]

In theory. You can. In theory.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I do piece together, like, I split cut and piece them together because, like, if I burp right. Cut it.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I do that As a thumbnail. The upload time TikTok is just quick. You pick the thumbnail quick. Everything's quick.

[Joey Graceffa]

Did you even. You'd never really picked the thumbnail. I thought you just did it, like. Oh, I forgot. Yes, you did. You did start posing. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never, like, made a thumbnail, but I would pose, which is big on TikTok. Now they say to start your TikTok the first second with, like, the big item, like, as if you're posing for it.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

So I started doing that. Like, I'll put, like, the. The stick in and then do it because they want to see what you're eating first. Makes sense.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's a good hack.

[Moses Hacmon]

The algorithm that's known in the tinfish reviews world.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, really?

[Moses Hacmon]

You start with a second of the thing open, and then you go to the review.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's a little tease.

[Trisha Paytas]

The food world, too.

[Joey Graceffa]

The crossover.

[Trisha Paytas]

The crossover is real. Yeah. We'll do a collab one day. Maybe not. I don't know if I could.

[Moses Hacmon]

They do. There's one that. It's chocolate inside.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's not a fish.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's in the shape of a fish. Oh, we can do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

What about Swedish fish?

[Moses Hacmon]

They're not in a tin.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is a Swedish fish? It's bread.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's like a gummy. Oh, I wonder if it's. It's a red 40 band.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Right, 40.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Our skittles. I love skittles. I had a whole bag of them on my music video.

[Moses Hacmon]

I keep finding huge bags of skittles everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's for my music video.

[Moses Hacmon]

What are you guys doing with that?

[Trisha Paytas]

It starts out the song. It's like, how does the song start? Damn it. I gotta learn it. Performing it tonight. It's rainbow Birkin filled with skittles. Cause you're just a skinny legend. There's like, a first line that I'm missing, though.

[Moses Hacmon]

So you had skittles in the Birkin?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, basically.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's the best part. This is such a Trisha story is when I last. Was it last week when I was, like, getting ready in the makeup room, and you couldn't find your rainbow Birkin. And literally this. I thought it was a prop. Rainbow Birkin. It was this box full of just, like. It was like, just props. Just gay props. Bedazzled props. And I was like, oh, a fake rainbow Birkin. I literally looked at it. I was like, how cute. A fake rainbow Birkin, like, for a prop. And then an hour later, Trisha was like, have you Seen a rainbow Birkin?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Joey Graceffa]

Have you seen a rainbow Birkin? Anyway. And I was like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like, oh, it's in that box.

[Joey Graceffa]

Just a giant box of crap in the middle of this. It was so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

We took it out to do. We're gonna use it in the COVID Yeah. And then it. It. So my hairstyle or someone must have just, like, thrown it in the box.

[Joey Graceffa]

So funny. I literally held it. I was like, cute. A fake Birkin. Like, like the Drew Phillips. Like, I thought it was like a Drew Phillips fake Birkin bag or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a good idea, though. They should start making knockoffs of it. Yeah. I was like, I don't want to lose it. It's gonna get lost. I take it to the music video. Music video got rained out. Like, at this point, it's just damaged. So it's like it's worth nothing at this point. It was always worth nothing. Let's be real.

[Joey Graceffa]

No one even wanted it. Now it's value is increased because it is synonymous with you, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's going everywhere with me. I'm taking it with me. Oh, who is the thing at Pride that I was like, oh, RuPaul's performing at World.

[Joey Graceffa]

Saw the lineup for Pride.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get mine was in the little. Okay, I get it. But RuPaul, like, that should be like, up there with Before. I love Troy SBA. But like, at least before Troy S of on, don't you think who they put bigger?

[Joey Graceffa]

They put JLo and Troy as the biggest. Right. Let me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they were the headliners.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Jennifer Lopez, choice of on and then Galantis, Grimes, Kim Petrus, Marina. If you're performing the same time as or same date as Marina, that's major.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, people love Marina.

[Joey Graceffa]

I love Marina. Paris Hilton, Purple Disco Machine, Ray Ray's Amazing, Rita Ora. RuPaul. Sophie Tucker and Tinashe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, alphabetically, maybe.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, for the, like, right under the headliners.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they're like the co headliners. What am I?

[Joey Graceffa]

You're right under the Coco headliner.

[Trisha Paytas]

A third tier.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, I get a third tier. Aluna. Betty who? Dombreski. Disco Dom. Hopefully no relation to Dirty Dom. Out. Pgob Patrick Mason. Sasha Colby Slater. Your sister and Trisha Paytas.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Sasha Colby Slater. Trisha Paytas was great.

[Joey Graceffa]

I was like, that's a good run.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's like a good little, like, triangle there. I was like, absolutely. I love. Slater's gonna be there.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're gonna. We're gonna sleigh.

[Joey Graceffa]

I'm so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so funny. I can't believe performing with all those people.

[Moses Hacmon]

Invite everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Joey Graceffa]

You really gotta. Gotta like work.

[Trisha Paytas]

You guys are not invited. You guys would just be like what, a couple of. Just your podcasts.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's the course.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. No, that's so crazy.

[Joey Graceffa]

I would definitely. I'd ask Sasha Colby for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she.

[Joey Graceffa]

She is. She's really booked and busy. But you never know. There was such a Sasha Colby video. I kind of thought of you. There is like she was eating pizza and like her friend at the dinner table recorder because she was like, like posing with the pizza. Like sexy. I have to find this video. Cuz she was like really giving. Like you. Yeah, like, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was like, God, she is like I really felt bad for 15 because like no one was gonna even.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. And I saw Tik Tok this morning actually. That was like. It was a edit of Lux Noir London mistress Isabelle Brooks. Who else was in it? I think Sapphira Crystal and it was like, like they would have won on any other season if they weren't with like Sasha Colby.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. This is like, like this season. I love this season. I really do think not Sophia Crystal.

[Joey Graceffa]

Who was it? Someone else she was last season.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I forget.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, Anitra. Anitra. The walk that she was the runner. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Like there was like a tick tock of the three of them. It was like they would have won any other season if it wasn't for Sasha Colby, which is. They're all so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that would suck. And probably when they saw her, they're.

[Joey Graceffa]

Probably like, damn, it's this season.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like it's pretty even.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's why it's everyone's game.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think that's what I like about it. I think it's pretty even. I think Lexi will win though, because even her flop, they're like, we loved your flop.

[Joey Graceffa]

I was like, it kind of gives you energy in the sense of like. Because she was just so bad that it was iconically good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I do love that. That's. That's a talent. It is a talent when you can be so bad. But then people like, it's like my Broadway show. They're like honestly cried, emotional. I was like, wow, I love it. Thank you. Gave me the confidence, that's for sure.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think my prediction for like final four of RuPaul's jack racing season is Lexi love Anya Nerve. I want to say Jewel Sparkles and wow. Who else could I see a Susie Too, of course. Yeah. Doesn't make Susie too is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love her, but, oh, my God, that little shop. That was crazy. Like, I don't want you to be shame. I was shocked that it wasn't a bottom because they showed it so much. Look, they didn't show Acacia as me that much because, like, Polly was good, like, a safe. Safe. So I always just think that. But when Sugar was me, they showed her a lot because she ended up being eliminated episode. So I thought they were showing Susie toots so much because she was gonna be in the bottom. So when she wasn't, I was like. Because it was. It was kind of bad, right? I love Alan Green. I love Little Shop of Horrors. But that was crazy.

[Joey Graceffa]

And I thought they were setting her up too, because they kept cutting her, being like. Like, I've studied this down for years. I've interviewed her. Like, I'm gonna nail this. This is my challenge to win. Third win. They were really setting her up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Joey Graceffa]

I think she. I honestly thought she was gonna be bottom, but safe bottom just for, like, the story of, like, her thinking she's that girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I love her too. And I'm, like, glad she was safe. I was just kind of like, girl, what? I know who was bottom two.

[Joey Graceffa]

Lana Jeray and Crystal Envy for Rosa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Parks and Nicole Richie.

[Joey Graceffa]

It was rough. I honestly, I love Lana Dre's Rosa Parks because it was so bad that it, like, made me laugh because it was so bad. It was so camp.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

I love Lana. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

I love House of Lux. We love Lux New Orleans. She gave you a shout out on the pit stop, too, which is very sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. Oh, are they related?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Lana is Lex's daughter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That makes so much sense. Oh, my God. They both have great legs. Oh, that's so interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. They did pit stop. I saw that. There was a little clip, and Lux was like. Because she was saying, like, you know, I want to have dentistry paytas. Because Rue was like, don't know her. It was funny. And, like, that makes sense. Same. But also, please do me. I would hope every season someone does me. We'll collab. We'll do. Come to my house if you want to come over. I was like, yeah, absolutely. So please continue to do that. But. But she was super sweet because then Monet was like, said something. Oh, you were, like, on Trisha's show. Yeah. I, like, love Trisha. She's, like, so great and so sweet and so nice. So I loved Lux, I really love Luck. She was, like, really humble and, like, sweet when she was here. Like, I was intimidated. And then when I, like, just her being here, she was just, like, super sweet and, like, humble. It was, like, crazy. And now she's, like, on off Broadway and stuff, which is.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, she's on off Broadway. She sings. She has a really great singing voice. Oh, she's a great singer. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And she has, like, a whole theater background and she has loves for all the, like, fellow queens and stuff.

[Joey Graceffa]

And people are so hard on her and Lana Jeray, and it makes me so mad. Like, why?

[Trisha Paytas]

What do they say?

[Joey Graceffa]

I think because on the show, Lana kind of gets the delusional edit. Like, oh, she thinks she's, like, giving all the time. And then she's been in the bottom two weeks in a row.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so crazy.

[Joey Graceffa]

I love Mona Jerry. I love them all. Like, even seeing, like, Crystal Envy go, it was so sad. I'm at the point of the show where I, like, love anyone and see anyone go, like, makes me sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because I think Lana was, like, definitely the most popular when the show started. Right. She had the most followers. Like, people knew her the most.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so people just love to.

[Joey Graceffa]

And also, like, all because you are not great at competing on the show doesn't mean you're a bad drag. Rang. Trix Mattel was not good on season seven.

[Trisha Paytas]

You haven't even seen it.

[Joey Graceffa]

She was just mid. Like, she was mid. She got eliminated, they brought her back, and then she got eliminated again right.

[Trisha Paytas]

After mid is what I've been saying.

[Joey Graceffa]

But obviously Trixie, an amazing queen, one of the funniest people ever, you know, but just wasn't great at competing on Drag Race.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also, edits, like, edits can do such, like, when they change the music to make you sound like a clown or something. Like, edits can change it so much, I think, because some of the stuff Acacia told me, like, behind the scenes, I didn't even make it. I was like, oh, didn't even, like, make the cup. But stuff that they were, like, saying to her, I was like, oh, well, that changes everything.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. They want. They have a story to tell and they have to. There's so much footage, obviously, so they have to put in what tells the story.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah, I really like this season. I really don't want to see anyone.

[Joey Graceffa]

Go, I know, Me too. I love everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're doing the musical this week. Wicked.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so excited to see it. I love what they do. Rusical.

[Joey Graceffa]

Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you think Ru's gonna perform at Pride?

[Joey Graceffa]

That's a good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

The hits or his new stuff?

[Joey Graceffa]

Maybe a mix of both. You gotta do like a sissy that walk. You gotta do like a kitty girl. What's that? I love ASMR Lover. I know. Lux says she likes that song too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never heard it.

[Joey Graceffa]

ASMR Lover, that's. You are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it about asmr?

[Joey Graceffa]

I think that's just a catchy title because it's. It kind of whispers and she kind. It's like kind of a whispery kind of song, but love it. I like the hook. ASMR Lover, that's what you are. Whisper to me me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. I like it. Malibu. Weirdly a RuPaul fan too. She will sing that song she heard. Do they play in the show a lot? Because she doesn't obviously sit and watch the show with us. She's usually playing, but we'll have that on.

[Joey Graceffa]

The backgr is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do they play it? They must play it. Cuz she hears it. She hears like two notes and she like all of a sudden does her. Do they play covergirl?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes. Every time Cover Girl put the bas in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that what we want?

[Joey Graceffa]

Usually the Runway. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every time she hears that, she like, remembers every word. She starts doing the walk. Cuz like one time my sister taught her a Runway walk. And I think I might have been like singing it in the background or something. And it wasn't even rude the first time. But now what she hears on Drag Race, oh my God. She goes right into it like, CoverGirl, put the bass in your walk. I was like, damn, two and a half years old knowing that. It's a good song.

[Joey Graceffa]

She is a little diva.

[Trisha Paytas]

The fact that she loves Rue too. She's a good one to love.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh my God. This is iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is. God, it's so crazy because I didn't even realize they played that song. And I was like, why did she always hear that song? And I was like, I guess they play it when Ru comes.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh my God. She's gonna have so many gay friends when she's older. It's gonna be so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so excited. That's why this album, it's gay and kids songs, but like, it goes together in this world. You know what I mean? Like, that's what it is.

[Joey Graceffa]

I love this is so funny. It.

[Trisha Paytas]

I believe the gays are future.

[Joey Graceffa]

Is that your song?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Treat them well and let them lead the way. Show them all the be. Give them a sense of Pride. That's our song.

[Joey Graceffa]

Give them. What's it called? World. Give them World Pride.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. In Washington D.C. june 6th and 7th. But June 6th mostly. Cuz that's what I perform.

[Joey Graceffa]

I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was excited. I was like, wow, what a lineup. Everyone was excited. All the comments were really nice. So that was good too. People were very excited about Marina. I would always look to see my name, but people were excited for Marina.

[Joey Graceffa]

She hasn't released music in a while, so it's exciting. And like, she is very lgbt, so she has a lot of gay stands.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that.

[Joey Graceffa]

I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jlo. People are excited about JLO too. They were like, it's a pretty big highlighter. What do you think about it? I was like thinking. I was like, I should do highlight. Yeah, it's a pretty good one.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. And Troye Sivan, always a hit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love. That's what got me. When they're like, do you want to do World Pride? That Troye Von's gonna be that week. Sign me up. I will be there for sure. I would have done it for anything. I would have been like, even West Hollywood Pride. But they don't call me. I would love to do we hope Pride. It's on the street. That's fine. We're going to Washington D.C. storming the Capitol.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh my God. June 6th.

[Trisha Paytas]

How does he say that?

[Joey Graceffa]

June 6th and the new January.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're not. We are slave capital.

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't know if you can say working, work, work. The capital.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where does the capital is? The capital of the United States. Right. It's nothing political. People just live there.

[Joey Graceffa]

The White House is there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Joey Graceffa]

But it's not just we're working the White House.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're rainbow fying it. We're making it. Yay. So I guess they have World Pride there every year because it's the capital of the world.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, I suppose. I've never heard. I'm sure I've heard of World Pride.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I. I don't know Pride here.

[Joey Graceffa]

I've been to West Hollywood Pride one, maybe like two or three times.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not like a regular thing for you.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, it's just far. What I hate there. The Ubers are really expensive to get there. And then you can never find parking, obviously. So they park miles away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Joey Graceffa]

I almost went to the last Pride because that's when Art and Austin show were there and I wanted to meet Austin's show. Oh, and Art. I guess I hadn't even met Art at that time. I just like the thought of traveling to WeHo. And dealing with all that was just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always wanted a float. Like, one size. Got to float.

[Joey Graceffa]

Moses driving the float.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we can't this year. We're at World Pride. But next year. But they never. I've always, like, written to them like, I always wanted to be in the parade. Somehow I was like, how's everyone in these parades except me?

[Joey Graceffa]

Especially when you had that whole, like, the rainbow wig and everything, too. Like, I feel like that was you signaling, like, bring me to a pride. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never once.

[Joey Graceffa]

But this year, I think maybe the getting on the Grindr podcast top podcast list two years ago, 2023.

[Trisha Paytas]

We even make it this year.

[Joey Graceffa]

Competition was stiff.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened?

[Joey Graceffa]

We're gayer this year, though. Because you're doing pride. For sure. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

We need gayer guests. Gabby, Wendy. A great start. Joey and Joey.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had gay Rebecca Black. Oh, my God.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. We've actually been really gay this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Hannah's bi. We only have gays.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay, we're there.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're doing our part.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gabby Wendy.

[Joey Graceffa]

Gabby Wendy. Coming up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That's all we need. Who is gay on this year of the Traitors?

[Joey Graceffa]

Gabby. Bob the drag queen. The other Bob. Bob Harper. Oh, yeah, I forgot Ivor.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gay.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. He's like. Then I married a bloke.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Block the way. He said that was so funny. That was his big reveal.

[Joey Graceffa]

Duolingo owl. Do you want to say any condolences to the dual owl?

[Trisha Paytas]

He died.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah. Wait, did you know he died?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. There's an actual owl. I thought he was Greed.

[Joey Graceffa]

He passed away. The Duolingo owl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't understand.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were trying to warn him, but they. I didn't understand the language.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened?

[Joey Graceffa]

That's a good one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what happened? He fell off the window or what?

[Joey Graceffa]

He actually got run over by a cyber truck. Yeah, that's the official statement. The cause of death was revealed that he was involved in an accident with a cyber truck and they're trying to find the driver.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can he get arrested?

[Joey Graceffa]

The driver? I would hope so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or the truck. Can he sue?

[Joey Graceffa]

Can you sue the truck? Oh, like Elon?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't know if Elon's responsible for what the driver did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, can you. Can you get Suit if you kill an owl, what if it flew? Not trying to blame the owl, but what if it flew in? Seems like you couldn't stop it at some point. That's so sad, though. I love owls. We have so many of them here.

[Joey Graceffa]

Is kind of iconic, like I've seen it. It was. It went to the ERAS tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was he in the wild? I don't understand. Someone owns him. It's a pet that I got loose.

[Joey Graceffa]

I don't. I don't. They didn't say specify how he got run over by the cyber truck, but he did die via cybertruck. And now Duolingo selling, like, little coffin merchandise. That's crazy for the owl. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're monetizing his death.

[Joey Graceffa]

Dua Lipa released a statement about.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's part of the dua.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's also part of the Dua family.

[Joey Graceffa]

She said she posted till death Duo part in honor of the Duolingo owl.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Do you have any final words for the Duolingo owl?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what?

[Moses Hacmon]

I have to say it in Spanish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I'm trying to think of how you say it. God, how do you say it? See you later. What is that?

[Joey Graceffa]

Hasta luego.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hasta luego.

[Joey Graceffa]

Duolingo owl.

[Trisha Paytas]

May you rest in peace. I will miss you so much. You know who else loves owls? Malibu.

[Joey Graceffa]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

She's an owl queen. She can hear an owl, by the way, we have owls up on our roof. And she always goes into the bathroom to, like, woohoo. She, like, talks to them.

[Joey Graceffa]

Who was here that liked owls? Ted Nivsen. Remember Ted Nivison loved owls.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? I think birds have a better life after this life. Because honestly, we had birds that sometimes fly into the window in our house and stuff.

[Joey Graceffa]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think. I think they must have a better afterlife or something because they go quickly here, you know what I mean? Like, they don't really get to enjoy their life. I mean, they do get to fly, which is such a flex. I wish I could fly. That'd be cool. But they do get hit by a lot of things.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Cyber trucks, windows.

[Trisha Paytas]

A cyber truck. A window too.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, my God. I literally, in the parking lot the other day, like, when I was walking into the gym, I, like, there was a cyber truck parked, and I stood next to it and, like, reflected for a second and I was like. I did feel small, but I was like, damn, I can't believe we ever wanted one of these.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Once I sat in one, it was so empty and, like, like sad. And I was like kind of like a shell, right?

[Joey Graceffa]

It was.

[Trisha Paytas]

It felt like. It felt like. Yeah, like a model or something. I was like, this doesn't feel like a car, like, console. There's nothing cushy. There's no, like, ambient Lighting, like, how.

[Joey Graceffa]

Why were we so obsessed for like a couple months?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know Kim Kardashian.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, that's what it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

She influences everything. I saw her post with her SNL50 script and I was like, oh yeah, then you. I also have an snl. I think she copy. She was in the dressing room.

[Joey Graceffa]

She got the same dressing room as Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Same dressing room holding the script. I'm like, girl, you've been on snl. You've hosted it. Why do you need to show this script? She's like, look, I also have the SNL50. She copied me again. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna copy back. Yeah, we were the sexy. And that dressing room was kind of bougie because it's like right by the stage. So that's like the like important dressing room. And all those people that were there. I was like, she got that dresser.

[Joey Graceffa]

Then she posted about reheating nachos too. I feel like she's listening.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was something else you said she copied me on.

[Moses Hacmon]

There was another post, a different one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone said that she copied me. She's watching me.

[Joey Graceffa]

What did she think about her on the Kardashians with, like, when she showed off like, like her back after the corset. She. She was on the. This past episode was her at the Met gala. And then she showed what her back. The. What her back looked like after the corset. Cuz it was so tight. She couldn't breathe. She wanted to throw up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Yeah, she. I literally can't breathe. This needs to come off. I'm going to die.

[Joey Graceffa]

And then they took it off on camera and then her back looked like bruised and you could see all the indentation from the.

[Moses Hacmon]

She looks like an alien. Yes, like an alien.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, it was so scary.

[Joey Graceffa]

It was gross.

[Trisha Paytas]

For what? For, for what really? Like, pictures, like.

[Joey Graceffa]

And then they asked you, like, do you have any regrets about wearing it? Was it too painful? She's like, no. Like, if you looked good, it's all worth it. I think that's a thing. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is the dangerous precedent they set, which I hate. And it's why they wonder why people don't like them. I do love the Kardashians, that there are glam and all that stuff like that. But that is such. I guess you just think about like, yeah, your kids watching it, like their kids, your daughters and stuff like that. Thinking like, well, I have to squeeze into this and I have to, you know, okay, I have to wait to eat Pizza. Till after this big thing where I squeeze into this dress like, I've earned it. Okay. Like, they just had such dangerous, like, yeah. Expectations that way. I hate it so much.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then they wonder why people are mad at them. I'm like, well, this is why she's.

[Joey Graceffa]

Getting booed at the roast. And it's like, well, Kim, Kimberly. I love Kimberly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Joey Graceffa]

I have such a complex relationship with the Kardashians because they do influence me so much. Every time I pass Lemmy at Target, I'm like, do I get the lemon.

[Trisha Paytas]

This weekend?

[Joey Graceffa]

I'm going to IHOP tonight for dinner because. Because of Courtney's birthday party, we had chocolate chip cakes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were so good. We literally went on, like, a Saturday night.

[Joey Graceffa]

They influenced me so much, and I do like them, but then they do stuff like this, and I'm like, kimberly, come on now. Come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it makes me so upset. I know the way they, like, yeah. Say, like, that's what it's supposed to be. It's worth it if it's this.

[Joey Graceffa]

It's like, yeah. And that's also, like, you can't possibly get a tighter corset. And, like, every year, it's more and more extreme. It's the Mr. Beast, like, effect of, like, in the David Dober, too, of, like, you know, you have to keep upping yourself and make it more and more sensational. But it's like, if you're already getting physically sick because your outfit is so tight, how do you, like, what are you gonna do with Mella this year?

[Trisha Paytas]

Disclaimer. Nothing is worth it. No. And you can't breathe. Like, she could have passed out. She was on those, like, stairs with the heels. With no heels on it. Like, she had to sit the dinners. Like, you could, like, actually die from, like, not being able to breathe or your organs being squished or whatever. Like, that. That's the worst and most unhealthy thing I've ever seen. And she has daughters, too. And I'm like, that's actually so crazy.

[Joey Graceffa]

I know. And she is influential. Like, she knows. She knows she's influential. She knows she's influential.

[Trisha Paytas]

I copied that look right away. The day after, I was like, 91's pregnant. I'm like, give me a little cardigan. She's like, it was intentional. I was like, okay, that's crazy. That's crazy that it was because I was, like, looking. I was like, God, why didn't she wear that sweater? Then I was like, wow, she really did.

[Joey Graceffa]

And she said, she picked. That was. The whole star of the outfit was little cardigan over the.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was wild. It ruined the whole shape. I mean, if she wanted to show her tiny little shape, that's the point.

[Joey Graceffa]

Of that tiny corset. Again, that is true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Problematic. But, you know, we continue to watch. I guess it was. It looked painful and I felt bad for.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. Her skin literally looked like deformed after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

It made me sick.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not worth it.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, I do. Like, I have such a soft spot for Kylie, though. Everyone keeps hating on her with her and Timmy doing all the press tours and all the award shows. She looks cute to me. Sorry. She looks cute next to Timothy. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we were talking about them yesterday because. What did you say about it? You said something. We saw them.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I said it was surprising to me that they are matched together, but. And also the chief's probably wealthier than him because.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, you're right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because while he is a famous actor, actors don't make that much money.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like business people, you know, she's a business woman. She makes money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I was thinking, well, she's with him. He's like a famous actor and has a lot of money. I'm like. But actually she has, like, way more.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because she's with her for that.

[Joey Graceffa]

She was a billionaire before Kim.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right. So maybe he's like thinking, this is my. This is my deal ticket right here.

[Joey Graceffa]

That's why it is so funny. The. The people assume that, like, you know, he's dating down for being with Kylie because she's not like an artist or whatever. Like, she's reality. So she's like below or like kind of influencer, you know. But honestly, Timmy seems like just like a silly kind of guy. He's been dressing really silly at all his little events. Like the pink outfit he wore the other day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

So I feel like they're a decent match and they've been together so long and they're so low key that it's like, come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think it's cute. I like it. But yeah, I feel if anything, she is the upper.

[Joey Graceffa]

She's. Yeah. I mean, she's the billionaire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

So.

[Trisha Paytas]

So why are people being like, oh, he's with her for the money.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. It is so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting. It is. You would have. Actors are like that where it's like they look down upon the Kardashians. Even Kim. Like, again, we just said they're problematic and they are problematic. But it is crazy how she got, like booed at the Roast. You know how like. And then she's like, I didn't deserve that or whatever. It's kind of like. It's kind of interesting how people do look down upon them even though they are very influential and rich. But I guess we see why. I guess. I guess there's a little bit of both.

[Moses Hacmon]

We see Taylor and Daniel. It just feels like it's a very bro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like sports. Does it like the Kardashians or here too.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was a very much manly. Like they're like, what are you doing here?

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah. There's something to say about when a woman is somehow occupying male space. Males react very negatively when it's. But then when it's males in a very female space, like a Ryan Gosling and Barbie movie, he was the one that celebrated. That's so it is a very interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dichotomy because girls are just better.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're just more accepting and loving.

[Joey Graceffa]

People were comparing like people. The sports fans booing Taylor. But then when Travis is at the Aeros shore, like everyone's excited. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

It is quite interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz men are awful.

[Joey Graceffa]

Moral of the story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just period. Like, because at the end of the day, why are they doing Kim Garden? We. We know our issues with her. She's like setting bad beauty standards for like our generation.

[Joey Graceffa]

You know, it is different.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Taylor too, like, what? She's literally on the screen. Probably doesn't. Doesn't want to be up there. She's like, what the hell? And gets booed. Y'all are weird. Grown bed whose daughters love Taylor Swift. It's like, she is so weird. And your favorite person in the world, Travis Kelce's dating her. So like, why wouldn't she be so excited? People are weird. I'm never going to a male dominated anything.

[Joey Graceffa]

Never.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll be at World Pride.

[Joey Graceffa]

Gay dominated.

[Trisha Paytas]

That for sure. Yeah. Gay male dominated is different.

[Joey Graceffa]

Speaking of gay males, my last little bit is I did reach out to Joey Graceffa for a statement last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did you tell him? I didn't even share it today? Cause I was scared. I was like the thumbnail. They watched my stories. I shared it internally on YouTube. I didn't share it on my stories. I was like, I would love to see it. You texted.

[Joey Graceffa]

I just reached out for a statement because I was like, I guess I should get his side. It came to me like last evening. I was like a journalist. I should just text him. Yeah. I said, can you give just Trish an exclusive statement in response to Tana? He said, I sent Tana A text. I don't see why she can't handle things offline. I apologize to her for how I talked about it on the pod, though, and I was just being playful. I think Tanner's been hurt by a lot of people and put me in the same boat of people who have wronged her with people with bad intentions. But I genuinely feel bad and was shocked by her reaction and I instantly texted her. And we also handled it on set, too. So I think talking about probably with that guy, I'm assuming, like, when Tana told them about the harassment and stuff, she said, he said, we also handled it on set and he said he's gonna send her flower. So I hope Oswell that ends well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Because I don't think. I think Joey and this is again, me projecting from just being around him for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

Two years. I think with his whole thing is he always judges by, like. Because I think he got. From our podcast episode. He got a lot of backlash too about, like, oh, is he still friends with Colleen or whatever? I don't. I don't think he is, as far as we know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we don't know.

[Joey Graceffa]

We don't know. True.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he's just guessed for him.

[Joey Graceffa]

Because also, like, I think about how we thought about you even when people were. When you come collab with you, when you were in your reputation and everyone was like, boots, tomato, don't collab with her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

He's very much like, he judges people by his interactions with them for better or worse. Like, sometimes like, girl, read the room.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

But sometimes when it was, you know, to. He ends up on top because he tried. He trusts his gut with people, but sometimes he has to, like, see things for himself again, for better or worse. But I think with the tanning, he also. I think here we're being very, like, cheeky.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Joey Graceffa]

We were shading him. You said I jumped off a sinking ship. You know, we're being very like, library is open.

[Trisha Paytas]

Totally.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was the vibes. It was before the Tana, obviously the seriousness of it. And yeah, Joey to me. And again, as far as I know, I don't have the best judge of character. I one time said Colleen and Joey are so problematic.

[Joey Graceffa]

Like, what My famous laughs. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I will say Joey does seem, like, never malicious. And we talked about that when he was here. Like, he's never been wanted to, like, talk bad about people. I don't think he's, like, malicious, but, like, obviously after hearing Tana story.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah, same.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, take it more seriously. Like, I Don't. Yeah, but if he handled on set, I guess he knew and maybe he just didn't. Maybe she wasn't making it so serious. So he wasn't trying to make it as serious.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were trying to keep it light, maybe.

[Joey Graceffa]

It does seem kind of like miscommunication. But also I. Tana is talking about, like, her, like, what she was talking about. I went back to listen to Canceled too, to see exactly what she was saying about, like, being hung up and having a guy being like, oh, I like, I want to do this to you off camera or whatever. Like, that is really serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Joey Graceffa]

And even she was like, you know, that wasn't a reflection of Joey, but like, it is on your set. So the least you can do is like, take me serious. And I agree with that. I think. I think if on here it was like he came across dismissive. And I don't think that was necessarily his intent, but that realistically, that is how it came off. Off. So that is his bad. But love a queen who can apologize, you know? So, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Setting flowers.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that. I love that he gave a statement.

[Joey Graceffa]

He was quick with it. It was like within 30 seconds. I was like, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Scared. If someone asked you for a. I usually ignore it. I'd be like, I don't want to give a statement.

[Joey Graceffa]

He gave it head on. I was like, what? Not. Yeah, exclusive tea. Hopefully this tea isn't stale by Thursday.

[Trisha Paytas]

It won't be canceled. Won't come out for another three weeks.

[Joey Graceffa]

True. But Joey daily vlogs, so who knows, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

He seems dropping drama free. He's with his puppies. He changed me in the thumbnail to a puppy. Did you see that?

[Joey Graceffa]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Remember the day we're here, I was like, who's in the thumbnail? I was like, it's you. Oh, it's a puppy. I said to do well for him. I get it. I get it. Changed the dog's queen. I'm glad. Is it sounds amicable. Tana's very easy to forgive.

[Joey Graceffa]

True. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure she. She likes to vent, as we all do.

[Joey Graceffa]

And it does make sense. Like. And I also. I think it is validating for her too. And it's good to have someone with a very female audience to be like, actually, like, if you say that you're harassed, people should take you serious. You know what I mean? So I think that is a good.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she definitely was. Yeah, I support her. And I'm glad.

[Joey Graceffa]

That was crazy. I want to know. I'm nosy. I want to know who that man was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know if she knows because, you know, that's masked.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Scary part. All right, girl. Well, that's it.

[Joey Graceffa]

Wish everyone well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wish everyone well. Wish me well as I'm in the Midwest fighting the snowstorm, trying to find good food somewhere. And you guys, I love you. We'll be back. We'll be back Monday to recap the weekend, hopefully we have some good, exciting stories to tell. Nothing too exciting, but. Oh, the Oscars are this weekend, too.

[Joey Graceffa]

No, the SAG Awards this weekend no one cares about.

[Moses Hacmon]

Recap of the opening of the tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, just be a recap of the tour. So come to the tour if you want to be part of the Hot Topics recap. But be sweet and be nice and you'll be watching Love is Blind.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh, yeah. Thanks for the reminder. Yes, I will be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Three new episodes. 60 episodes.

[Joey Graceffa]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses will be doing tin fish can reviews if he has time. And I'll be performing my M M Mega Mix at Detroit. Detroit. Yeah. Slaying the boots. Everywhere in boots.

[Joey Graceffa]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And not in those boots, probably. Uggs. It's a little warmer. I'll see you guys in the next episode. We love you. Bye.