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Trisha Paytas
Barefoot. He could put it in my face. I would make sure everyone's filming every angle of that. Yeah, I noticed this at Trishmas. I could literally be like, this is the best that I've ever looked. Even though I'm the fattest I've ever. And people just be like, yeah, you know, I could say anything. I just had pizza because the majority of people are mid, including me. Her name is Trish. She's got the dish in. Hello. Oh, it feels so good to be back at the podcast, you guys. Welcome back to Just Trish. Did you miss us? Cuz we missed you. I missed you guys so, so much. I missed the Hot Topic so much. I don't think we've missed a Hot Topic Monday in, like, ever, have we?
Oscar
I think the only one was when you gave birth, I think. Right, right. Literally. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Just once.
Oscar
Just one.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. That's crazy. Oh, my God. And even then, I really was able to. I should have just done it because it was like. It was like three days. I was ready. I was more concerned about the judgment people would give me. It's like, wow, she's doing it. But I could do like an hour hot. I could have done hot. Yeah, we missed one. Now two. But I missed you guys so much. Oh, what? Did you do that? Wait, what?
Oscar
That's so cool.
Moses Hackman
How did you do that? The whole point is to even light up.
Trisha Paytas
They gave you the. They gave us the remote in there?
Moses Hackman
No, I added.
Trisha Paytas
Oh. What?
Moses Hackman
I had the light, so I put it on.
Oscar
Oh.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, fancy. Okay. We have so much to talk about. But before we do. Hi, welcome back. And also, we have five more tour dates added to the Eras of Trish tour. This is. I know, I know. It was 28 cities. And I'm like, I can't. Because I told them. I'm like, they wanted like 40. I was like, I can't do more than 30. Then they're. It's like, not even 30 guys. So 28, obviously. It did really well. City sold out quickly. Atlantic City, weirdly, which is in New Jersey, not Georgia. I always think Atlantic City, Georgia. It's Atlantic City, New Jersey. That's all. That was so quick. That was the first second show we added. So we have a second show in Atlantic city, New Jersey, June 8th. I think we have a second show in Toronto coming up in a couple weeks. I think that's the 23rd of. It's a Sunday in February. And then we added LA and New York and Boston, because those were the three cities everyone said so we. We got them in the middle of the week. So we're playing Boston and New York in April, I think, 15th and 16th. We're playing radio City Music hall, which is major.
Oscar
You and Hugh Jackman.
Trisha Paytas
Literally. Literally, yes. We're both having our residencies there, but he had, like, a full band behind him. He has, like, an orchestra. I was like, maybe I should, like. I feel weird going to, like. It's kind of like the Beacon, too. It's like going to these big theaters and just being, like, doing a little dance recital, you know? But it's kind of camp. It's kind of funny. Like, Radio City Music hall is so big. It's where the Rockettes are. And it's like we're just gonna be going to. Dancing to freaky. Me and my four dancers. Just. I don't know. It's. I don't know what's gonna happen, but it's gonna be there. So we're gonna be in Boston. Radio City Music hall was just added. We're playing the Greek Theater here in la, which is also very random and weird.
Oscar
And that is where I saw Harry Styles, for context, on venue sizes so big, where me and Sabrina Carpenter were sitting side by side watching Harry Styles.
Trisha Paytas
Really?
Oscar
Yeah. That was the last time I was there.
Trisha Paytas
Well, we're going back, Sabrina, if you.
Oscar
Want to come back to the Greek.
Trisha Paytas
The Greek Theater again. It's crazy. I don't know. I. Thank you. I. I just took the opportunity. As soon as he said the Greek and Radio City, I was like, well, I mean, you might as well add those on, I guess. That's pretty iconic. And we have special merch being made for those. And it's like, really cool shirts being made. So. I don't know. I don't know how this is happening. I don't know how anything's happening, but thank you. So if you guys want to go, we'll put the link down below or you get them on Ticketmaster. The Arrows of Trish tour. This is it. This is the big one, you guys. I'm so excited for this tour, but it's been a lot of work. It's going to be a lot of work. We're going to 35 cities. It's almost the whole country. Right? That's like, almost 50 states.
Oscar
Yeah, sure.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I wonder what states we're not going to, because we're going to. Technically. We could. Yeah, right. We're going to, like.
Oscar
You're not going, like, Alaska or Hawaii?
Trisha Paytas
No, that would be a slay. Both of Those would have been a sleigh, but unfortunately not. No Montanas or Idaho's. Sorry, guys, but it's the final. It's the big one. It's my big one. Hence, this air is a trash. Putting my whole bedou see into it. I'm really just gonna give it my all. Yeah. And I'm really excited for it. And I'm gonna meet you all and say hi to everyone, and I'm gonna really just perform my little heart out. We have, like, 10 songs. Thirteen. We have a lot of songs we're performing. We have all the eras. The merch is. It's iconic. It's iconic merch. And it's more than just the era shirt, which is very cool. But there's some other iconic merch, too. I'm just really excited. But this is the big one, so get the tickets. I think we have. I don't know. There's probably, like, six or seven cities with tickets still available. The new cities, obviously. So get those tickets, because this is it.
Oscar
This is it, mama. This is it. There's no second chances, mama.
Trisha Paytas
This is it. This is the last time I'm coming to Indianapolis. I'm excited. I'm excited. Like, Raleigh, North Carolina. Like, when am I ever gonna go there? What I'm gonna do. I ordered a. Okay. I'm so excited. I ordered a Jansport backpack yesterday. Cause going through the airport. Just came back from New York. We'll talk about that soon. I had, like, a shoulder bag, and I was, like, getting heavy. I'm like, I need a cute little backpack, like a JanSport backpack. So I got. I always wanted one that seems, like, relatable, right? Like, yeah, everyone has a jansports. I got a pink one from Tilly's. I think I want to collect, like, little buttons at each city I go to.
Oscar
That's actually really cute, right?
Trisha Paytas
And just collect them along the way. Because the first weekend alone, we're going to Indianapolis, Detroit, Toronto, Toronto. And I'm like, damn, those are all iconic cities. So I'm excited, you guys. But, yeah, the touring. The touring is a lot. So maybe I'll do a Vegas residency. Maybe I'll go to Broadway. Maybe I'll have my own talk show. We can get free tickets and send the audience. But this is it. This is it for the tour. Tour. But I'm excited, and I'm giving it my all. So I'm also playing a festival that'll be announced February 17th, so look out for that. I'm playing a festival for 40,000 people.
Oscar
Mama, that's it.
Trisha Paytas
And after that, Mama. That is it. That is it. And hopefully my voice comes back. Okay. Love it. Also, Patreon. Patreon.com just Trish, we love our patrons so much. New headshot of the month. Okay, Sign up. Get some mail from me to you. We are. We're not slacking over here. We're doing the bonus video, the bonus Hot Topics this week. So two bonus videos a week. We're gonna do Super Bowl. Are we doing our super bowl wings?
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
I got super bowl cupcakes yesterday at the store. I went last night, and I was like, I'm gonna bring these for our super bowl party. Are we reacting to the super bowl or, like, halftime shows or just.
Oscar
I think we'll react to, like, iconic halftime shows because, like, how can. I don't know. Reacting to football seems like. I don't know if I can do that, but it was like a Rihanna, Gaga, you know, the weekend. The weekend. She's kind of iconic, I think.
Trisha Paytas
Remember, she was like, they should not have both.
Oscar
Oh, yeah, her and Shakira.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, Shakira slang, by the way, everyone loves Shakira. And JLO just looks good. But also, I like that I would like to watch the weekend performance now that I'm out of my weekend era, because I'm like, I wonder if I still like him because sometimes, you know.
Oscar
Yeah, you have the stand glasses on. So, yeah, you can't do anything wrong.
Trisha Paytas
But yeah, right, because they played him at, like, a shoot I was at, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago because they're like, oh, we know you like the weekend. And I was like, listen songs. And like, I remember at the time, I'm like, yeah, it's all. I love this. It's kind of like, this is like, a little bit, like, derogatory towards women, but, like, maybe it was time.
Oscar
You were like, oh, my God, I love how he sings about women. It's like the women are in control now. You switched up.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I think. I got to listen to it again. Maybe I miss. Maybe I was, but I was like, wow, this is kind of raunchy. Like, I don't know. Anyways, okay, so we'll react to that and eat all the wings. I want to order every Ring Stop flavor. I'm so excited. The chicken tender is not the.
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
I love the Wingstop.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't even order it this morning at 9:00am I waited. I did have McDonald's, however. And, yeah, Patreon's poppin It is.
Oscar
Sorry. I got locked out of Patreon over the weekend, so I couldn't post our Chinese New Year mukbang. But it'll go up today now that I'm back.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, was there a Chinese New Year mukbang? A Panda Express.
Oscar
Panda Express, Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Do we talk about the Chinese New Year?
Oscar
We talked about New Year. So I'm like, mama, let's make it Chinese New Year. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't even notice, I was so busy. Check out Moses's tinned fish can. Reviews on Moses Hackman on TikTok. We're doing a music video soon, and my director. It's like a Bridgerton inspired music video. And my director text me this morning. He's like, do you want Moses to be eating canned fish in this? I was like, I love that creative vibe for the Bridgerton. The song is also called McGriddle, so it doesn't really fit with the Bridgerton. So nothing really fits. I just was like, we're doing Bridgerton's.
Moses Hackman
Everybody was random because, like, he's been watching the. Like, he's coming up on this.
Oscar
They're big.
Moses Hackman
That's why. That's why it came up, because he brought it up.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
People came up to me saying, they love your Tiktoks. Yes. They're like, we love Moses. Canned fish Tiktoks. And I was like, yeah. When I come in, I usually see him, like, I look over and he's filming them and like.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Did you see. Have you. Did you see our new set?
Oscar
No.
Trisha Paytas
Our new Patreon set?
Oscar
No, I didn't see it.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, I gotta get your reaction before you look.
Moses Hackman
Okay. There's a new Patreon.
Trisha Paytas
Moses sent it to me and I thought it was like, me at the Empire State Building or something. I was. I thought. I didn't even, like, look, I was like, okay, it's me in New York or whatever. And I was like, what? He's like, that's our. That's your set. It looks like we're like late night news anchors, like, love that subscribe to.
Moses Hackman
Patreon just to see this.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, we'll get the reaction because we're gonna film on that today. I actually really haven't fully seen it in person. I mean, it kind of.
Moses Hackman
No, it just landed and we. And we're also like, you know, adding lights and sign. Like, this is just the basics.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, we're gonna get our.
Moses Hackman
It's gonna get.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, we're really elevating our Patreon because truly all support the Patreon it's really crazy how, like, not that it's not a plug for Patreon, but, like, really, our Patreon, like, here thrives the most. My not Loveline Patreon throws the most. Like, I'm just gonna set up a Patreon for everything because people love a Patreon they really want to support. So thank you.
Oscar
I love Patreon too. I love subscribing to people's Patreons, actually.
Trisha Paytas
How many are you subscribed to right now?
Oscar
3. 3. But I rotate them like, you know.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, switch it up.
Oscar
Yeah, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Is it still Bob the Drag Queen right now?
Oscar
Yeah, because Bob and Monet react to Drag Race, so I watched that. Brittany Haynes from the Traitors reacts to the Traitors.
Trisha Paytas
So who is Brittany on the Traitors?
Oscar
She's just now getting screen time, but she's like a fierce narrator and she jokes about how she's barely in the show. And I. I love that. She's, like, very self aware, but she has good analysis, so I really like that. And who's the other one? Oh, and as told by Kenya, she's a smaller YouTuber, but I like her a lot.
Trisha Paytas
Wow. They supporting patrons out there. I love that. I think I'm still only subscribed to Jeff Wittek on Patreon and you gift me.
Oscar
You gifted me canceled, so I still have canceled.
Trisha Paytas
And they posted over there.
Oscar
I think it's been a no, actually. They posted a long one last week, I think.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I love that. Okay. I'm also leaking songs over on my music tier. My whole EP drops next week, so get a leak. Sneak peek on our music tier. Okay. Hello.
Moses Hackman
So what have you been up to? I haven't seen you for a week.
Trisha Paytas
I know. I. I know. It's like, so. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Should we just, like, jump again? We can talk about it. I know. It's actually been so sad. I haven't. This is the longest I've ever been away from Moses and the kids. Like, it's so sad. I was like. Yeah. I was, like, devastating. It was. It was. It's been a weird week. It's been crazy. Great week. Weird week. Best week ever. Craziest week ever. So, yeah. We're back from New York. My Empire State Building award. I'm gonna pretend like this is an award right here. Thank you so much for everything. Yes. I made my Broadway debut. I'm officially. I'm officially a Broadway star.
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Try to look into how to get nominated for a Tony. I feel like it has To. You have to be able to, like, a one night only or something.
Oscar
It has to be a category, right?
Trisha Paytas
I think, like, I'm on Broadway. Like, I.
Oscar
The grammys have, like, 5 million categories, so I feel like the Tonys, that's.
Trisha Paytas
How think of performing Atlantic City when the Tonys are happening. But anyways. But yeah, I made my Broadway debut at the St. James Theater, which is, like, really cool. And Oscar was there. Oscar Crave and Trish Crave and Oscar.
Oscar
Everyone showed up and showed out and showed out.
Trisha Paytas
It was crazy. So I was. I was always excited about it, but I think I always psyched myself out from the minute I knew, like, Broadway show sounded great as a great Broadway show. And they're like, we're get, like, Broadway people to come through. And I was like, great. And I think once I found out, like, who was performing with me, I think I was, like, psyching myself out. So I was, like, trying not to even think about or acknowledge it. So when it kind of came out, I was kind of quiet because I was just, like, very overwhelmed. I was overwhelmed. And then I think I kind of psyched myself out so much, I kind of made myself, like, manifested as sickness. So if you can't tell, I'm still kind of sick. I'm on antibiotics. I'm not contagious. But. So I went to New York right after the podcast last week. No, the last Monday, whatever the last Hot Topics was. What was that? Like, in January sometime, we did the Hot Topics and then like, literally went to New York that night. And right after Hot Topics, I was kind of coughing in Hot Topics. But then right after, my chest started hurting so bad, and I was like, oh, man. I was supposed to get on a plane and anyway, you wanted to go.
Moses Hackman
To the doctor that night?
Trisha Paytas
I. Yes, yes. They told us to come in, actually, because I called him. Anyway, so then I went on a red eye flight, and I was like. As soon as I landed, I couldn't even breathe. I was like, oh, my God. Before I even had one thing of rehearsal. And then in the Uber, I, like, threw up on the way to my hotel.
Oscar
You did? Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
So I was like, oh, no. And I was like. And I was supposed to go straight to rehearsal. I was supposed to go straight to rehearsal. I had a whole week of press in New York, which I was so excited about. I think we cut it out from our Patreon last week, but I was supposed to go and watch what happens live that Tuesday night. I had, like, all these great outfits planned I was gonna be the MC from Cabaret. I had Little Orphan Annie. I had a Fiero costume. I had all these really good looks. And I was so excited. All the press had to get canceled because I was so sick. That Tuesday, I went to urgent care, but urgent care did a full panel. Like, you're fine. I was like, okay, well, I'm not, so okay. So then I went to rehearsal. They were trying to get me to sing. Like, not a note came out. Like, I couldn't even talk. Like, it was so crazy. I think the food was just. I think the throw up was just from food poisoning. I think that's what we determined because I had. I went to an airport lounge. They had Mac and cheese sitting out. I ate some of that. I think it was. That is what I gathered because I kind of felt fine after that. But I still. Whatever. So then I went to hers. I couldn't get a note out. They had to cancel Watch what Happens Live, which I was so excited about because I was supposed to be on with Bob Harper and Garcella Garcel from Real Housewives. So I was very excited. I thought that was my Real Housewife break, my debut. I thought maybe I could get it invited to be on the show, but that didn't work out. So then Wednesday, I kind of just pushed myself. I was just like. Well, I had a full day, like, doing videos for the show and, like, a Timeout magazine. And I kind of just pushed myself, which was a bad idea because lost the Voice by the end of the day. And I was like, okay. So then Thursday, I was just dead. I was just like, it's like four days, three days till the show. And Thursday just like, couldn't, like, couldn't talk, couldn't talk, couldn't swallow, couldn't anything. So I went to an ENT. Dr. Pittman. He's like, the big one. He does, like, all the Broadway stars. He's like, the big one. And he gave me some medication. He basically put a camera up my nose and down my throat and saw that it was, like, just inflamed and pussy. And it wasn't from, like, oh, Trisha went so hard on rehearsals. I haven't sung a note at this point. Like, there wasn't even, like, a note that came out. I don't know. I just. I really just lost my voice. And. Yeah, so I went to him and I'm just, like, kind of weird. He gave me the amoxicillin and these prednisone. It's like steroid pills. I'M just like kind of weird about putting that in my body. So I was kind of like, I don't know, I kind of waited on the steroid stuff until Friday. I was like, let me just take the amoxicillin. Friday comes around and I'm like, okay, now it's all up in my nose. It's kind of getting better. But anyways, long story short, I basically had only Saturday and Sunday to rehearse the show when I should have had like the full week. They had all these press events, there was like a meta event with all these influencers and there was a Jimmy John's and there was all these things, I think Steve Madden and I just, I couldn't go to any of it. It was so frustrating. And then, so then, yeah, so I had Saturday and Sunday and I was just like, I wouldn't even say sick. I just like couldn't talk. Maybe a stuffed up nose, but everyone was sick. New Yorkers by the way, are not scared of a cough. Tell me, I'll tell you what, like if someone coughs around me in la, I'm like, get, get out, get out. Like, I don't. And I've been, now I've been a coughing man. But New York people, I couldn't. Like I told them I'm like, I'm coughing. And they're like, it's fine, just come. I'm like, are you sure? Because that's like, oh, that's gross that I'm coughing around everyone. But people like, we're just like, it's the time of the season. Like backstage I was just like, all right, so whatever, I guess we're all like coughing on each other, whatever. They were very unfazed by it, which I guess is good, I don't know. So I was. Yeah, but by the time that the celebrity, the Broadway star Ben Platt saw and all like Rachel, they all came in on Sunday. So like by that time I had the amoxicillin, I was taking the steroids, but my voice was just kind of like still not like fully there. So we had, so I had the full day of rehearsal Saturday for my show and then the Sunday for like the, the guest spots. And yeah, I just, I never got a voice lesson. I never got one voice. Clearly I never got one voice lesson in because I just, I couldn't, I couldn't even talk. So it was, it was, it was crazy. But yeah, then Monday rolls around. The thing I knew this whole time was like, I can't cancel it. Like, you know what I Mean, like, if it. Like, I just. I couldn't. I think it was one of my shows. Maybe I, like, would have rescheduled because, like, I, like, couldn't talk, but I think I just couldn't cancel this because it was a benefit. It's for entertainment Community fund, which is great. We raised so much money for them. Obviously, all the stars that donated their time, like, we just got it. We just. All my ensemble members who made their Broadway debut, they're all currently in shows. Like, they had to go the next day to go on the MJ tour. They were in little shop that nighttime. Like, they were all in show. So, like, it just wasn't gonna work if it was. So it just had to happen. And so I just, you know, Monday woke up without a voice again, and I just was like, well, we're just gonna make it happen. And that's what we did. We made it happen. I lit up the Empire State Building. And, yeah, it was. It was great. We did tech in one day. We opened and closed the show in one day. And it was. I also had no wardrobe. I was at the airport when I saw an email that said what to pack, and they wanted me to bring, like, body suits and dresses. And we got there, and they're like, oh, did you bring any? I was like, I got this email on the way to the airport, so.
Oscar
Oh, no.
Trisha Paytas
I was rocking Fashion Nova up there. Not sponsored. They should have. They had the Fashion Nova racks. Cause all of a sudden, they're like, oh, yeah, we have no clothes for you guys. No, I love a custom outfit. I would have loved to customize my numbers and stuff up there. So we made it work. But, yeah, we had some Amazons up there, and that was fine in Fashion Nova, but it was great. It was wonderful. And then I got to light up the Empire State Building, and all of it was really fun. Everyone was supportive. The reviews were really nice. Actually, people were really nice, because, let me tell you, it was so much fun, but it was a struggle. My voice was. It was gone. It was gone. I gave. I gave every. Every, like, push I could. It was just. I couldn't hear myself. Like, everything was crazy, but no one expected me to, like, be Broadway performer, but it would have been nice to at least have the voice that I'm confident with, because I wouldn't care if it's, like, off key, if I was like, oh, I'm killing it, you know? But I knew I wasn't because I just was. So, you know, and bless the ensemble. Bless all the stars that came Sutton, Ben, Rachel, Joy. Because they were so sweet and they gave their all performing with me as if I was on their level. And who knows, maybe they think that's how I sing. Maybe they're just like, it doesn't get much better. But that's why I was posting my one with Donnie. I was like, wait, I can sing a little better. They're probably just like, damn. Because it just was really talking at a certain point. It was like together wherever we go. Like I just was like trying. But they probably thought I sang like that, which is fine this episode is sponsored by Manscaped. We love you Manscaped. This brand is trusted by over 11 million men worldwide for their face and body trimmers, hygiene essentials and premium boxers. If so many men swear by them, you can bet your Valentine will too. The countdown to Valentine's Day is ticking down faster than store slash prices on chocolate February 15th and this time around, we're raising the bar. We've all watched our partners try for that rom com leading man charm only to land in scruffy sidekick territory. Not this year. We're treating them to the VIP experience. Everyone please meet the Handyman Rocketman Special Edition from Manscaped. A sleek compact face grooming essential that guarantees your partner's face is on track for heartthrob status all year long. Now available in the Special Edition Rocketman Colorway featuring gold and black. Just a quick psa though there are limited quantities available in this Colorway so you need to act fast. You can use my code trish for 20% off and free shipping@manscaped.com the handyman is a sleek, powerful compact face shaver. It's perfect for those last second touch ups when your reservation is in 15 minutes. Engineered with a unique blade system, it features both a standard foil shaver and a long hair trimming blade to handle up to three days of beard growth. The Handyman is also airplane friendly and the ideal travel companion. The Handyman in the Special Edition Rocketman Colorway is the perfect upgrade to his grooming regime and just in time to make the Valentine's Day extra special. Manscaped also has a 30 day money back guarantee so you can try it risk free. Give him the gift of grooming this Valentine's Day. Get 20% off plus free shipping with code trish@manscaped.com that's 20% off plus free shipping with code Trish T R I s h@manscaped.com we love you Manscaped. Thank you for sponsoring if you're looking for that perfect Valentine's Day gift, look no further than manscaped. Give your man a gift he'll actually use, and you'll benefit, too. Thank you. Manscaped. And they were still very sweet and very nice. And again, it was all for a good cause, but it was very surreal. It was very crazy. And, yeah, that was my New York. I love New York. I want to go back. I do want to go back.
Oscar
Well, you'll be there.
Trisha Paytas
I'll be back, yes.
Oscar
He will be back.
Trisha Paytas
Radio City Music Hall. I can't wait. Yeah, I would like to live there. I would like to live there for, like, a few months. The vibes are good. Okay, well, you came. You came Monday. And I was so happy to see you because Moses, he stayed with our kids because it was just a lot to, like, uproot them. And, you know, Alice is so small and New York. And I was gone. I was supposed to be gone originally from, like, 6 in the morning glam to, like, 10 o'clock doing press at night. So that was, like, the original schedule. So it just didn't make sense to come. Hindsight, maybe, but they're just so little. So if we moved, if I did, you know, like a show out there, obviously we'd bring everybody, but Moses could have come in. It was like, actually, like, that was also devastating. Like, being sick, being away from them. Like, it just. I felt so, like, not supported.
Moses Hackman
It's one thing when you go away and you do projects and everything's fine, but it's another thing when you go away and you're sick.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Moses Hackman
And you're by yourself in a hotel, like, nobody's there to take care of you. Or if nighttime you wake up and you suddenly need to go to the hospital, like, nobody's there.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I am babied a lot. Well, even the humidifier harder. The CAA shout out ca. My agents, who I love so much. I gotta do a speech. I gotta do an acceptance speech with this trophy because I have so many. I have a lot of people to thank. I have a lot of people to thank, but. And they shout out. They said they were so sweet. They were, like, sending me all these, like, things. Help me make me feel better. So they're trying to sound like a humidifier and, like, whatever I needed. And they sent me a humidifier, but I don't know how to set it up. I was like, damn. So I was trying on the phone, Moses. I'm like, how the hell does this thing work? Like, it's so confusing. Then you need to put scent stuff in there and water. And it just wasn't turning on. I scared I was gonna electrocute myself because it's water and electricity. I don't even know if it ever did work. I did because I wasn't going to. And then I was like, no, you really need to try it. And I was like, oh, okay. So I was, like, trying. It was so complicated. Complicated. All that was so complicated. So, yeah, not having you, I mean, I really. I used to always be, like, a strong, independent person, but I've really gotten babied with Moses, and I really need someone at all times. So it was just really hard to ask for help too, because I just wanted to, like, make it good. Like, everyone would put so much of their, like, work into it, but yeah. So I was happy to see you because my dad ended up flying in Sunday. Like, thank God. He didn't know if he's gonna make it either. He didn't know if his wife was gonna feel good or not, so he came. And then, Oscar, you weren't coming because you're supposed to be working the Grammys.
Oscar
I know. It was very last minute. I booked it on Friday because I was going back and forth. Oh, I was weirdly so anxious. I don't know why. Because I used to fly, like, all the time. Like, super last minute. But I don't know why I was, like, so anxious about it.
Trisha Paytas
About flying or the trip?
Oscar
About flying and the trip, actually, you know, now we're just such routine girls, you know, that it's just hard to get routine girls out of their routine.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Oscar
But I was like, no, I just felt it. I was like, I feel like I'm gonna so regret it if I don't see it, because it's so iconic, you know? And, yeah, I booked it last minute. I rescheduled my jury duty sometime in April. I don't even know.
Trisha Paytas
I kind of just do that.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
You're like, I'm gonna come later.
Oscar
It gives you a whole calendar. I was like, let me push it as far as possible. And then once. That was so easy. I was like, let me just request the time off work, see if I get it. And I got it pretty easy. And then I was like, it's a sign. I just gotta. I just gotta go. Yeah. And I'm so glad I did because it was so fun. It was like, tell me.
Trisha Paytas
I need to know from an outside perspective, Everything.
Oscar
Like, I got there and, like, I just. The crowd was so excited already. I could Tell. Like, as I was getting closer, my hotel is pretty close. So I just walked and, like, each block I see more and more pink. And I was like, oh. It felt like we were track. It was like a little pilgrimage almost. And then I get there, and then the lights and then the pink carpet, and I'm like, oh, my God, this is so fierce. And then I met up with Nicole Rafi and who's the Chronically Online girl here on YouTube? Who? She's the one that does the biggest printouts and puts you on the walls a lot.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't know you kept calling her that. I thought it was just, like, your friend that's Chronically Online. I didn't know. Like, I didn't put it together till I saw it. I was like, okay, got it.
Oscar
Yeah, I met up with her.
Trisha Paytas
She was great.
Oscar
And she's. She's a stand. She came to the Trishmas in New York, but I didn't know that. Yeah, she came. She just bought tickets. And then they. Her and her podcast co host and friend Jake, she said that she put Jake in charge of buying the. Their Broadway tickets, and then he flopped on it, and she was, like, really salty. And then. But yeah, I ended up meeting up with her and going. And we were just like, in all the whole time we go in as soon as you come out on stage, like, everyone's on their feet, everyone's screaming. Like, the. The room was electric. Everyone was so excited the first time. I got. I did get teary eyed when Sutton came out, too, because I know just from, like, being a viewer of you for so long how much that, like, meant to you. Just because, like, the. Obviously everyone. But I know Sutton specifically, like, she personifies Broadway. I think, like, she. When you think of Broadway, you think of Sutton Foster, you know, I think, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. This is so good that you are, like, breaking it down because I have, like, so much to say about each thing. So, yeah, like, Sun Foster was the one that came in, like, that they got. That was, like, the surprise one to me. Right? Because it's like Ben kind of knew as, like, a fan, whatever. Like, you know, we kind of met each other, whatever. So there was, like, a little in Rachel and I have, like, dm. She's been so sweet, too. So that was kind of like, okay. They kind of know Sutton is someone who's, like, truly, like, someone that wouldn't even be on my list because she is, like, the A list. Like, there's unreachable. Yeah. She's won at least three probably more Tony's for at least. She's. She really is. She is. Like, she was in Butt Heads and younger. She's so, like, mainstream. She's done, like, so much stuff. Like, I've seen her. I've seen her personally in five shows on Broadway. So I was just like, she. It's. It's literally like. I don't know how to explain. Maybe the Ariana Grande at Broadway. Like, I'm trying to think of who's, like, the biggest, like, person that's, like, unobtainable in, like, the pop world or something, but maybe like, an Ariana or, like, something like that where she's just, like, kind of untouchable. So I was. I was. I was gagged. I. That was the one that I. I was very nervous. I, like, didn't know what to say. But everyone kept reassuring me. Everyone that was like, our director, Skyler, worked with her. She just opened Once Upon a Time a Mattress out here in Pantages in December. And he was like, she's the nicest. And she really was. She came in, and she just looked so, like. I don't know. She's just so, like, motherly and just, like, she was really, really nice and very, very sweet and, like, literally the best vocalist ever. And so I had to sing a duet with her, and I didn't know the duet. I wasn't familiar with it. So when I had to, like, sing, I was so. I was so nervous, especially with, like, no voice. But. But she really. She was so sweet. In rehearsal, she came. She came to rehearsal. She came to sound check. She came to the thing. Like, it was really amazing. So that was the one that, like, caught me the most off guard. Like, I was so shocked that they got Sutton Foster. I think everybody was. I think the article.
Oscar
That's why everyone who bought a ticket.
Trisha Paytas
Everyone who bought a ticket when it was announced. That's why when it was announced, I think I was just so in shock. I remember the day before it was announced, we would, like, should we talk about it? Should we not? And I just kept thinking, like, I don't want to jinx anything. I don't want to talk about it. Like, to me, it just almost didn't feel like it was gonna happen. I don't know. It just felt, like, so surreal and. Yeah. Yeah. To. What you were saying is, like, sutton Foster is the Broadway girl. Me and Rachel were even talking about it, too. It was just like, it's Sutton Foster. Like, it's kind of. There's. There is no one Bigger as far as a female, like, Broadway performer goes in this generation. So that was crazy. That was. And her also being so nice was also not on my bingo card, because I just, you know, I know a lot of Broadway divas, divos that are just the worst. That are just the worst in some ways. They're older now. They're not the new ones. But she was just so sweet and so nice. So. Yeah, so, yeah, that was. That was crazy. I have. Yeah. I can't really fathom singing with Sutton Foster. It's like the craziest thing that's ever happened. But it was wonderful. And doing choreography with her, it was so cute. Were you at the. Did you go to the carpet or. You didn't even go to the carpet?
Oscar
I went to the carpet, yeah. But it was towards the end, I think I was, like, one of the last ones that came.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, I want to get one with Oscar. I want to get one with Oscar. Because Oscar Crave and Trish Crave were front and center of the press line, which kind of took me off guard.
Oscar
Because I was kind of like, love.
Trisha Paytas
But I was like, what?
Oscar
I know. Me too.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, wait, let me admit it. They interviewed my dad.
Oscar
Oscar Crave had a custom microphone that says Oscar Crave. I was like, love that.
Trisha Paytas
I love it too.
Oscar
They had production value.
Trisha Paytas
They had production. My dad did an interview with them. I was like, oh, okay. Like, yeah, Love them both. Ben Verde.
Oscar
Ben Verde.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, he was here.
Oscar
It was a cute, like, Judge Trish cinematic universe reunion. It was so sweet.
Trisha Paytas
Grasping it. Yeah. So I just. I'm so sorry. I was just so out of it, cuz I was just like, all of it felt like a fever dream, really. I was just so. I didn't know the carpet was gonna be like that. I didn't know there was Getty Images gonna be like. I didn't know.
Oscar
I know. Me either.
Trisha Paytas
They told me step and repeat, and I told you that. I was like, it's just like a little separate repeat. Like, it's nothing. Separate repeats are like, you put a thing.
Oscar
You.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. But there was, like, fans, there was photographers. I just. I was very overwhelmed by it all.
Oscar
Even, like, I was psyching myself up, getting ready, because I didn't have, like, a red carpet outfit. Like, I was more concerned because I saw how cold it was going to be. It was like 25 degrees during the day, I think. And I was like, yes, it was so cold.
Trisha Paytas
I'm hot everywhere in New York. It's so hot everywhere.
Oscar
Freezing and so that packing, that was my only concern. I was like, all I want to do is just, like, you know, be able to survive. Be warm.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
And then finding out red carpet, I was like, oh, my God. And I was psyching myself out. Luckily, Nicole asked what I was wearing, so she, like, matched me, and I was like, that makes me feel better. I made her do the carpet with me because I was like, I can't do this. Wait, really? No, I didn't want any because I was. My outfit wasn't, like, giving, but I feel like the two of us as a pair and we matched. I was like, now we're, like a duo, so we're stronger as a duo. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. All right. So anyways, going back in. So Sutton Foster. Yeah. She's the first. She's the first that comes out, which is, like, the wildest thing in the whole world.
Oscar
I know. I wasn't. I was expecting, like, Grand Finale Foster. And then starting out with her, I was like, oh, my God. And then the. I think the idea of the play was starting to make sense, you know, of the play. I keep calling it a play to everyone, as if it's like the Christmas.
Trisha Paytas
Pageant, but play amazing. I don't know what it is either. A Spectacular Spectacular.
Oscar
I think you should go with the spectacular.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. It felt very spectacular. Yeah.
Oscar
And the theme of it was really cute. You know, it was like the Three Spirits of Broadway, and you see, like, the plot line kind of come together, and I was like, this is really making sense. Yeah. And it was so cute. And then Ben, who was just, like. When he came out, though, I was like, oh, that's Trisha's friend. You know what I mean? I was like, because he's so, like, warm, and. And he was just like. I don't know. His energy was just so different. Like, it was almost like, even though he's been platt, like, legendary, he's, like, so well known in Hollywood, he's in movies, but he, like, his energy is like, oh, that's Trisha's friend. It's so weird.
Trisha Paytas
I feel the same way. And, like, maybe that's parasocial on me, but I really do. Like, I don't know. Yeah. Every time I seen him, like, this is the third time, like, we've met. And I. Like, the first time I literally made a tick tock and, like, he just happened to be in LA that week at the Greek. I remember my agents were like, do you want to go see Ben Platt? And I was like, yeah. And then they're like, oh, he, like, you can, like, meet him after. Like, he does, like, a reception after. And I was like, oh, man. Like, from that moment, he was, like, so sweet to me. And his husband was really sweet. I remember Noah, who's also very, very famous in his own right. He was in, like, the real O'Neills. He was in, like, theater camp. He's been Evan Hansen. Like, he's very. Also very well known. They both were just, like, so sweet. Like, Noah's like, you should come over. We'll cook, like, whatever. And then I saw him at snl. Same thing. I remember coming off snl, and they were there at, like, one in the morning, and they were just, like, so kind again. Like, they don't. You know, we don't know each other like that. I'm just, like, a fan. And it was, like, really nice. And then to do this, he did come. He came to rehearsal, and he gave it, like, he was. Yeah, it was. It was so cute. Yeah. And he's. Well, I won't say what. He's filming a really big thing right now, like, a really big project. And I was talking to his manager, and he's literally, like, no. Like, he literally asked for, like, the night off so he could do this. Yeah, he was filming all day. He just told me, like, it's like, a really, you know, thing that, Like, a big thing that he was filming. And he's like, yeah. I was like, it's just nice to do this because I was just filming something, like, all day. So I just. I mean. And he's so. They're also talented, but, like, getting to be. It was like, a serenade, basically, by Ben Platt is, like. It just made me want to cry. I just was, like, so giddy. I was just like, his voice is just so perfect and so wonderful. I was just perfect.
Oscar
Some would say pitch perfect.
Trisha Paytas
And he mentioned. I just love when people, like, yeah, like, talk about their old movies and stuff they're known for. And he's just. He's just one. I. I. Embarrassment. You guys know I've talked about Ben Platt, obviously, a lot here on the podcast. I'm very smitten by him. And. And he is not only so talented and so famous and just so, like, connected in the world, but, like, just nice. Just like a humble person. I got to meet his mom. I got to meet his husband again. And, like. Like, just really nice. Like, I don't know. When we did rehearsals, we. I had my popular shirt on, and he actually showed up in, like, a wizard shirt, and we had, like, no idea. So we were, like, matching and, like, wicked and stuff like that. So, yeah, he's. He's just nice and sweet and so cute and just. We got to dance together and say, that was so cool. That was really fun. Again, I couldn't. Luckily. Luckily, both Ben and Sutton's songs were relatively simple. Was me kind of just talking, like, together wherever we go. Okay, great. You know, I was like, that's cute. I can. I can do that. I had to learn that song as well. I wasn't super familiar with that song either, so I was learning all these new songs for the first time. And, yeah, that was really cool. Ben. I liked his segment, too, and I liked what he talked about. It was like a pot. It also was a kind of a podcasty thing where it was like, I was interviewing.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Which also. I was just really nervous. I don't know. Obviously, these were huge stars. I was just really nervous. And it just was like. Yeah, it was. It was a lot, but it was fun. Yeah. And the questions. We played a game, and the questions they had were. They were all so different, the category. So I was like. Took it by surprise. I was like, wait, this is. This is not what we rehearsed. And I didn't know. Ben knew that. So I was like, well, I don't know. We're just doing a new category, I guess, but okay. Yes. I continue. So I'm putting my little antidote.
Oscar
Yeah. He was such a good sport about the little, like, podcast segment, too. I mean, they all were. It was so camp with, like. Because it's all a dream sequence. If you guys didn't see it, stream it online or see it in person. But it was all a little dream sequence of, like, dream podcast guest. So the microphone was like, the little. What is it called? The little spaghetti thing.
Trisha Paytas
It was a little pink pasta thing.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Don't know.
Oscar
It was so camp.
Trisha Paytas
I was. They were so down, too. They were so down for everything, which was so nice because, you know, I get embarrassed by everything. I'm always just like, oh, my God, they probably think this is my idea to hold these pasta spoons or something. They were cute. But, yeah, I remember being like, oh, God, are they going to want to do that?
Oscar
But it was so cute. And, like, Sutton, too. She was, like, brushing her hair with it. Yeah. It was so sweet.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
And even with Ben, too, like, George, the producer was like, me and Nicole was just, like, about to leave, but, like, oh, you. I just want to go backstage and we're like, okay, yeah. And then I. Nicole is, like, a huge Broadway fan, too, I learned. And so she's. We saw Ben Platt leaving, and she, like, stopped to talk to him. But then I was scared about losing George. So then I lost Nicole getting to you, and then I had to go back and like.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, you went. You didn't say hi?
Oscar
Yeah, I always said hi. But Nicole had a. Like, I don't have. Like, Nicole has seen Ben a lot, and she loves him, so she had a lot to talk to him about. And then I was scared about getting lost, so I lost Nicole for a couple minutes as she became friends with Ben Platt.
Trisha Paytas
Like, literally, I feel like anyone who, like, talks to him, like, just, like, becomes friends with him because he's literally so nice. Were you guys downstairs in, like, that backstage area?
Oscar
We were walking in the back, and then I was going downstairs to find you, and then Nicole was still talking to Ben. Bad thought she was still with me because we said hi. But, yeah, she had more to talk to Ben about, which is so cute.
Trisha Paytas
Every time I see him, I just continue to be like, I love you. Like, you're just the best. Yes.
Oscar
And then Rachel coming out. That's a really gagged me too. I was like, I think that's the first time. Yeah, that's the first time I've ever seen her in person. And seeing her on stage, I was just like. I think especially I was emotional. I think it encapsulates, like, the whole growth of you. Even, like, I started the podcast, you're already, like, you know, grown, obviously. But, like, obviously we started the podcast and you were like, oh, my God, I cannot believe this girl. She hates Snow White. Whatever.
Trisha Paytas
And then, like, because that was trending, that was very.
Oscar
At the time, it was the hate campaign. You couldn't be on Tick Tock and not see, like, a mean tik tok about her.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, basically everyone was just like, I can't believe this is our Snow White. And, like, even at the time I remember, like, I really couldn't, like, care, but, like, that was what everyone was saying. So I was just going with, like, the crowd of it all.
Oscar
Yes. And that is. I mean, that's the problem with the, like, hate campaigns, though, in general is, like, you know, when you. I think we talked about it, like, the. At one point here, like, when you see a. A highlight reel, that's just, like, negative things about someone, then that is what you think they are. So you can't. You don't really get the sense of who they are because you're just seeing, like, an onslaught of negative, like, things that they do or whatever and. Yeah, no, go ahead.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. No, Yeah. I never thought. I never, like, Even with, like, Zach saying he, like, we brought it up and she, like, left, I never thought in a million years because everybody's saying everything. I was like, she, like, doesn't care. I'm saying something. You know what I mean? So. But as we showed in the show, too, it's like, I, like, I really did love her. From, like, like.
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I love that they. We found the tweet. You found the tweet? Because I was like, I know. I used to tweet her a lot in, like, 2018. And I, like, I really did, like, love her even before. And then. Yeah, when people blow up. I mean, even me, like, when we started this podcast was, like, 34, something like that. I mean, you do. I think everyone feels. Well, like, she. She said it so perfectly. One of the questions I asked is, like, the. The, like, the negativity she gets online, like, how do you deal with it? And she was like, you know, it just means you're part of something that people really love. So they're passionate. That's crazy. But because I was like. But also jealous. I think they're just jealous because that. How are you not. I mean, granted, yes, people are protective about Disney and, like, obviously all the franchises and stuff like that, but for me, I mean, it is seeing someone, like, live my dreams, you know? God, I wish I was her at 18, being in west side. So I wish I was her in Hunger Games. I wish. You know what I mean? And it is, like, a little bit. So then when you see that, you're like, okay, we all just, like, pile on too, you know? So there was. So she handles it well. And she. I have to just say this again. Like, she always resides me. And when I said her an apology, I think it was, like, years ago, just being like, whenever. This was, like, a year and a half ago. She was, like, so kind right away, answered her DMs. Was, like, so kind about it. And again, she's. She's. I think I said she was 21, but she might be 24.
Oscar
23.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, so she's 23. And she's just, like, truly so kind. So, like, obviously she, like, accepted my. Not obviously, but she accepted my apology via dm. Was super sweet. Then every time I'd post, like, my girls singing Snow White. Truly, they love Snow White. Like, when I say it's their favorite character, like, obviously, they don't even know about the live action. Nothing. They just love the character Malibu, like, loves to clean. They love the dresses. Like, it just.
Oscar
Just.
Trisha Paytas
They love hi ho. They love the, like, they love the whole thing. So when I start posting them and they're Snow White, so she'd always, like, interact and be like, oh, my God, this is so cute. And I love that so much. And I don't know, she's just always been really, really supportive. So it's one thing to like, forgive someone who's been, like, you know, not nice, not. Not, like, you know, whatever in the past, but it's like another thing then to, like, go and, like, support it.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, so she's doing Romeo and Juliet, which she's been doing for months now for, like, eight shows. And, like, her one day off is Monday night. She came to rehearsal at noon and she had to go to the matinee at, like, 2:00. Like, she, like, it's very, very nice. And then all the people involved with this, the producers and my agents, stuff like that, they're like, no, they, like, wanted to be in. They, like, wanted to, you know, because I was like, wow. I mean, how did you guys convince them to do this and stuff? And, like, no, they, like, wanted to, so. And Rachel, literally, literally, the, like. I mean, the nicest. It really just feels like you're just talking to, like, this, like, young girl who, like, makes YouTube videos. Like, she's just so nice, and then you, like, forget that she's doing because I said something. I'm like, are you excited for, like, the press tour for Disney? And she's like, yeah. Like, you just forget, like, she's gonna go down this whole, like, press tour for Snow White and just how massive she is and how big of a star she is. And she's just, like, just so humble and so nice. And to do this and again, to give her all we got to perform, I was so excited because the one song I knew when they gave me the list of songs I was gonna perform, I knew none of them. I didn't know Impossible Dream. I didn't know I Am what I Am. I didn't know Together Wherever we Go. And I didn't know the two original songs. The only one I knew was Take Me or Leave Me. I was like, I love this song. I got this song. This is my song. Definitely the hardest song, obviously, to sing ever. And then with Rachel being so good, I was like, oh, and she is so good at that song. She's just like, okay, she should be Maureen and Rent. She was so good.
Oscar
She, like, does it effortlessly. Like, I was like, damn. It was like, no big deal. It was like she was singing in the shower or something. Literally, like, she just walks around the stage like, it. She's so, like, nonchalant about it and she's like. I'm like, Jesus Christ.
Trisha Paytas
Effortless. Just movement, just. I think that was like the time and the moment I knew when I was on stage with all three, like, all four of them, because Joy. Joy was in Gypsy. Like, I just kind of knew. I was like, okay. I think this is the difference between me and, like Broadway stars because they're just so effortless. It just comes so naturally. They don't miss a note, they don't miss a beat, they don't miss a word. They're just so. I think it's just. You have to have some of that just in you. I think boring because I was like. I thought I was pretty good as a natural performer, but watching that, I was like, damn, Rachel. Yeah, take me or leave me. So she sang it. Hearing her on stage too, I don't know, I just felt so lucky. And again, this was all like, raise money and stuff like that. But I just felt so lucky because I am. I am such a fan. And I think Rachel, like, is someone that I just stand for so long. And then obviously her being nice on top of all of it, but also just being like, huge. Like just a huge star in the moment to do all this too. It's just like. I don't know, it was really, really surreal. She was beautiful. And. Yeah, I haven't seen one clip of it. I just scroll past every time I see it. People are sweet. I think I. You know who wrote an article was E.J. dixon.
Oscar
Who? Dickinson.
Trisha Paytas
Dixon. She wrote. She was. Wrote my Rolling Stone article, but I think she wrote for the cut or something this time. And she was actually very nice about it because, you know, she's kind of a. She's kind of a hard one to read sometimes. She's like, you know, she's. That she won't be overly nice, like a. What is it? Like a puff piece. But she, you know, she can be kind of like real. So I was kind of nervous. But that one thing she said, which is like so real too. It's just like, you know, and Trisha struggling to get through Joanne's part. Now maybe she used the word struggling, but something like that. I was like, so real though, because it was. It was a struggle. Cuz at that Point. I couldn't hear anything. By the way. First time ever being mic'd up. First time ever singing live and singing with a band. So I mic. My musicality is not good. When I do the recording studio, they literally count me and they're like, go. Because I don't know when to come in. So all of that was. Yeah, it was a lot. So couldn't hear. I couldn't hear myself. Cause my thing, whatever that song is hard me, my delusional hat. I'm like, I could sing this easily. It's a hard song. But again, Rachel, like performed as if I was frickin Kit Connor with her, you know what I mean? As if I was just also a leading lady in, you know, the Hunger Games.
Oscar
Like, nothing was not. No one had a phoned in performance for sure. Everyone was like, this is Broadway, honey. We're gonna give you Broadway level.
Trisha Paytas
We're gonna perform with this person as if she's. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people were like, I saw a couple just critiques of people like, oh, I wish Joy woods would have song. She does Gypsy also every single night. This was her night off. Monday is a night that Broadway is closed. Like, we were at St James and Sunset Boulevard is in there every other night. So. So we got them like, yeah, but. But she also kind of came in because like, she was kind of. She. She was obviously very busy, so she didn't have much time to like come in either. But she sang at the end. But yeah, it would have been great to sing with her too. But yeah, it was. It. I. It feels like a dream. I'm so happy. It just happened. I'm happy. Look, my voice was. It was not there. It was not there. But I had so much fun. Like, it really was like the highlight of my entire career. I mean, there's just nothing that will ever top that ever. Like, what am I ever gonna sing with? Sutton Foster, Ben Platt, Rachel Zegler, Joy woods again, like, when on the ensemble again. I should have mentioned the ensemble made their Broadway debut and I was so excited to like have that happen. But they all are performers, they all are choreographers. Sarah's in death becomes her at night. Like everyone's in a show either on tour or like, it just meant like they haven't been in a New York Broadway house before, but they all perform like off Broadway and stuff like that. So they're really, really talented. But it was definitely the best thing ever. And the response I got home, we went to the after party after. But the response after, when I was scoring through TikTok was, like, so nice. Like, I think the message. I think there's a lot of good messages of it. The script. The show was written really well. The script was well. The. The finale. The original numbers were really well. But, you know, the message is just like, you know, following your dreams. And that was the theme of all the interviews I did is like, how did this happen? How did you make this happen? And I'm like. I kept saying, like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. But I really think you just, like, visualize yourself doing something. I think that's the only thing that makes it. Because I always was like, like, I want to be on Broadway. I want to be. Which is, like, so crazy. But I think, yeah, if you, like, visualize it happening. I don't know. I. Like, I said in an interview, I was like, I think it's, like, the rise of, like, mediocre. I think people, like, obviously love.
Oscar
That was my favorite quote, actually. It was like. There was, like, a whole pool quote. It was almost like, inspirational, like, graphic. It was like, we're in the generation of the rise of mid. Like, even if you're mid, you can make your dreams come true. I was like, what a beautiful sentiment.
Trisha Paytas
Because the majority of people are mid, including me. You know, we're not. We're not the Rachel Zeglers and the Ben Platts, and so, you know, and those are beautiful. And they'll always be the stars of the world, for sure. But I do think there's a place for mid people to maybe not, like, plastic surgery or anything like that.
Oscar
Like a doctor, but heart surgeon. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, maybe don't be mid. Actually, you could be. I guess if you don't kill someone, like, it's fine. But I think mid is something. There's something nice about it. I always call us, like, boring. Whatever. I like it. Like, I like. I like the boring. I like the mid. Because it's just, you know, you're just all just trying our best. We just all want to. So I do like that we're kind of in that era. It's so funny because a lot of them, too, were like, wow, the confidence. Which is, like, nice, but it's also kind of like a little bit of a backhanded compliment because, like, damn, she has that confidence. Could never be. Which I did that night. I was like, I'm just gonna go as if I could sing perfect. But, yeah, I mean, I think you gotta just be confident in life. That's my best piece of Advice you just got. Even if you're like, just. It's just not gonna happen. You gotta make something work. Just be confident about it. At least you. You seem like you know what you're doing. You know what I mean? And it just seems to work out. So people, thank you for being kind. Literally. TikTok was like, very kind.
Moses Hackman
Was it Ben or. I just saw a TikTok of somebody quoting that of like, you know, manifestation is nothing without hard work. Like, and I think in your case that's true. You know what I mean? Like, it's not because a lot of people think, oh, you manifest. You just manifested. But you don't need. Need to put the work. And that's why for a lot of people, manifestation doesn't work. Like, but you put the hard work.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, thank you.
Moses Hackman
And that's the difference.
Trisha Paytas
I did do a lot of music videos, suddenly see more and got me there.
Moses Hackman
Well, also, well, even that week, I mean, I only saw on the other side of, like, how sick you were. Any other person would have stayed in bed and that's. It would have not got up to do any of the stuff you did.
Trisha Paytas
I was at those rehearsals.
Moses Hackman
We, like, I didn't think the show was going to happen. Like, that's how sick she was. And the fact that it happened was a miracle, you know, in that sense. Yeah, so. So I think people saw that. People saw how much, you know, I couldn't not.
Trisha Paytas
Could you imagine? Like, I just. Because, yeah, I was sick, but I was like, what if I can't let, like, all of it. What? I don't know. And then I have my tour. I was just like, I want people to be.
Oscar
You didn't have an understudy to play Trisha Bay.
Trisha Paytas
I should have. That's so smart. That would have been so funny to have someone, like, come on as me. There was no understanding for anyone. Honestly, I thought about that. Like, what if someone gets sick or something? I guess, whatever. But no, it was just all me going on. But I will say on that too, obviously. Where's my speech? I gotta give my thank yous. Okay, here we go. Oh, it's stuck there.
Oscar
Okay.
Moses Hackman
It doesn't need the light.
Trisha Paytas
I was bringing the light with it. But none of this would be possible without you guys. And I really mean that. So. So obviously, obviously I mean that. Like, they were already talking about, like, okay, what show do you want to do next? And you know why? Yes, I have passion and yes, I can carry a tune when I'm not sick, but it's because of you guys. I mean, everybody from the people who worked at the show at the St. James Theater to the Producers, everyone. Everyone who was there works on Broadway. They work in theater full time. And I say this humbly because of you guys, but, like, they said they've never seen tickets sell out so fast. They never seen a crowd go so wild. Stage Door. You were back there before? We were about to go to the stage door. They literally were like, it's not safe. You can't go out there. Like, were you back there? When you say yes, they're like, you can't. Like, you. We have to take you in a decoy car. My shows, my tours, sometimes I go in a car after because, like, especially the tour, like, we have to go to, like, the next city. So it's like, we have to, like, go to the hotel, whatever. So I don't go out. Also, I had. I start my tour days at, like, noon. I do meet and greets. I see people after the show. So, like, it just doesn't really work. But Broadway is known for its stage door. Like, that's one thing you see. Everyone. Rachel Zegler goes to Stage Door. Nicole Scherzinger goes to, like, everyone goes to stage Door. I was like, I have to go to stage Door. This is my Broadway show. This is my one time I'm gonna be at stage Door. And they literally kept telling us. They're like, no, it's too crazy. They were like, open the door and then shut it. They're like, the barricades are coming through. Like, they really were concerned. They're like, we only have three security. Like, so they're like, freaking me out. I was like, no, I'm gonna go. Like, I have to say hi. Like, what the heck? So everyone is, like, freaking out backstage. Like, it's never been like this. We've never seen it. And yeah, we went out and like. But I know we know our people. Like, I'm like, what are they gonna do? They're gonna jump and attack me.
Oscar
You don't have, like, the Logan Paul, you know, crazy straight guys who will do any, I don't know, jump a barricade or something. They're just sweet.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they're like sweet girls, gays, days. We get it. Okay? So I was just like, what? So we went out and it was. I saw an angle. I didn't really grasp it. It was a lot of people. I was like, this is so cool. I felt very. It was. It was. It felt because it was. It was cold. It's cold outside. So, like, everyone waiting out there, it was felt. It felt very cool. Felt very. Who. Someone was calling me Princess Diana backstage.
Oscar
Who was proud of me?
Trisha Paytas
Were you? I was like, you're like our Princess Diana.
Oscar
And then Nicole was like, but with a better ending.
Trisha Paytas
Right? I was like, let's. Right. Cause we're getting into a car. I was like, let's not. Okay. I love that, though. I loved it. And so it felt like that I felt like a royalty or something. Everyone, it was so nice. And then I saw an angle on TikTok later from, like, the other side. There was literally so many people because I was like, going this way, whatever, to the car. And there were. There was so many people. I felt like the Beatles. Like, we got in the car and they were like, surrounding the car. It was so cool. Like, it was so cool. And I wanted to side. And they were just like, no, it's like, too crazy. We don't have enough security. I think it would have been fine. I think I probably would have been okay. But. But, you know, it was nice. Everyone was very, very nice and very, very cool. And then I got to go to the after party after, which had a lot of influencers and people there. So it was like a. Like, yeah. Another hour of just talking to people and saying hi to everyone. And it was really cool. But it was crazy. And they said that too. They said. Even when they did the April Fools article about me being in Chicago, like, people were buying tickets that day to Chicago because they thought it was real. You know what I mean? So they're like, we never seen this. And like, I don't know. It was cool. I went on stage and there was like a. Literally like a three minute, just like standing ovation, which they told me. They're like, just talk through it. And I tried to. Cause my first line was, huh? What? But I don't even know if it came out because I was like, I don't know. I will say I don't know if I can do Broadway because of my audience, because they are so wonderful and loud. And I noticed this at Trishmas. I could literally be like, this is the best that I've ever looked. Even though I'm the fattest I've ever. And people just be like, yeah, you know, I could say anything. I just had pizza. Like, and it's. That's like the biggest rush. It feels so, like, wow. You know, it's the biggest rush. It's so cool. So it works great at Trishma shows and Tours. But Broadway's so different because it's like acting. So there was. My lines were with Joy and she was, like, off off stage. So I had to, like, listen. Like, it was like listening back and forth. So there was just times people just, like, applauded or cheered, and I'm like, I can't. I have no idea what's going on. So, yeah, doing Broadway would be interesting with my audience because I think they would just be, like, cheering the whole time through everything, and I would never hear cues or anything. But yeah, it was really. It was really cool. And they're like. It's just. Everyone said that they're like, just never seen people like this. So the reason. Back to my speech here, the reason that all happened is literally because of you guys. Like, it's crazy. I really am, like, so thankful. I don't know. This time in my life is really surreal. It's definitely my happiest time in life and the best time in career in life and everything. And I feel really happy and lucky and. Yeah. So thank you guys for making that happen. It's why any of this stuff happens. So thank you, thank you, thank you. And we just gotta keep entertaining. I. I kind of don't even know how to keep it. I'm like, how do we keep this? How do we keep people, like, so excited? Because everyone's so excited right now. And like, how do we keep it going?
Moses Hackman
40 CD tours.
Trisha Paytas
That is very. Yeah, that's. You're right. I cannot wait. Thank God. Tick Tock's back. I was thinking about that. I'm like, if Tick Tock was bad, nobody would get to see all this excited. You know what I mean? Please, in April, keep Tick Tock. Because I mean that. I don't even. I really don't think touring would be as fun if I didn't get to see the TikToks after. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. It's just not the. Not as fun. Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Also, for us back home, we need to be able to see what's going on.
Trisha Paytas
That's so true. Because my mom was like, I saw the Tick Tocks. You saw the Tick Tocks?
Oscar
Like, I guess it was cool. It can be Google Giggles.
Trisha Paytas
Google Giggles is not happening at all. I know. It was. Yeah. But TikTok is great, right?
Moses Hackman
Well, it was cool. We were. Because people were asking. We were people asking the comments. No, we were at home watching. So we set up the. Because both of the girls were taking a bath. I set up the laptop and the speaker. And we're watching the whole show. And Elvis is. She would not stop singing. Like, every time there was a song, she's just like, you have a clip.
Trisha Paytas
Of it after singing with it. It was so cute. I know.
Moses Hackman
Like always. But, yeah, we saw the whole show.
Trisha Paytas
Right before I went on. I FaceTimed you. I was very. Everyone did ask where you were. It was very. It was. That part was sad. But I was happy to see Oscar and my dad. I just felt good to see, like, people from home. My glam team flew out because they were at the Grammys, too. They had to do the Grammys. So they flew out, like, Sunday night into Monday morning to come. Yeah. Be at the show. So it was. Yeah, it felt good to have, like, people. I was shocked. I was so shocked you came. I was just like.
Oscar
I know. I was so excited. I was, like, so anxious before, but I just did the grant. Like, I flew in Saturday. Then I did the Grammys just for my hotel room on Sunday, and it was fine. Went really late. But Darian was psyching me out, though, because I. It was the first time I've traveled without him in a while. And he. For some reason, I think he's just nervous about. Because I'm. I'm off Adderall right now because I can't get it again. And he was very nervous because I'm very, like, la di da. Like, I. Like, I'm not really detail oriented when I'm off of it. So he was very concerned. And then as I was booking my flight, I was like, like, again, I don't know if it was, like, adhd, OCD or whatever, but I was like, I don't want. I'm just gonna do American right now. They're kind of going through a lot. And then. And then I was like, United. I was like, well, that's the 911 plane. I was like. So then I booked, like, Delta and JetBlue. I'm like, they seem okay, I guess. And then Gary was like, well, I think statistically, you probably are more likely to be. To be in a crash on these ones because. And I was like, why are you putting this in my head? So I was really anxious.
Trisha Paytas
Manifestation Working the wrong way.
Oscar
It's the negative manifestation. I was, like, anxious about that.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Oscar
Then I was you.
Trisha Paytas
If I was thinking that, I'd be like, I'm staying home.
Oscar
That's why I was like. I was really psyching myself out. And then for the Grammys, I was nervous. I was like, well, what if the Internet sucks? Luckily, everything went well and Grammys was kind of fun working from a hotel. I had good chicken tenders from room service.
Trisha Paytas
So we are hotels and have room service. What hotel? Where you at? Can you say the Hard Rock?
Oscar
I mean, I'm not like, your place.
Trisha Paytas
That you always go to. Where. Where is the Hard Rock?
Oscar
Times Square. Yeah, it was, like, three blocks away from the theater, so it was pretty close.
Trisha Paytas
Was it nice? I used to love a Hard Rock.
Oscar
It was nice. Yeah. And then the. They have really good chicken tenders, actually. I really enjoyed them. I got them twice. I like them so much.
Trisha Paytas
So we didn't have room service. You know what I ordered? I ordered a lobster tail and filet mignon every night from next door. We would say next, we were at the Algonquin Haunted, by the way, which, if you Google it, it comes off that it's haunted. It was by our rehearsal space. So that's why they put me there. And they were very sweet production and put me up, and they was so nice. So I'm never one to say no to a free room for sure, but. But also, yes, there was ghosts. They turned my water on, and then I took a really steam shower. Like, a steamy shower. And when I got out, there was like, a heart in the.
Oscar
Gabbie Hanna was in there. Oh, my God.
Moses Hackman
Gabbie Hannah.
Oscar
The spirit of Gabby Hannah was Perfect day.
Trisha Paytas
Isn't that what that song's about? She's like. And I noticed the handwriting wasn't mine.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God, that's so funny.
Oscar
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
He wasn't thinking about that. But I was gonna take a picture of it. But then people were like, you just put the heart there or something. You know what I mean? But I didn't. It was there when I got out of the shower. And I told Moses, who I also don't think believes me, that there was a ghost in there. He's like, well, they're nice. They love you. The ghost. I was like, no.
Oscar
Hannah explained that to me when I interviewed her. She said. She said if you write on it, then it, like, stays. So, like, when it steams up again.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I'm saying. So it seemed like someone else had already written on there. Yes, but it was the ghost, I think.
Oscar
Oh.
Trisha Paytas
But I thought if I took a picture of it, someone just thought I did it. You know what I mean?
Oscar
Because I think even for Gabby, I was like, did I really? It seems so insane. I'm like, that really happened.
Trisha Paytas
So you said it was real.
Oscar
That was real? Yes.
Trisha Paytas
I mean, it does say a little, because we always do for, like, our kids and stuff. We always write the stuff in the steam. But stay.
Moses Hackman
Maybe one time the next shower kind of goes away and we clean.
Trisha Paytas
Because you probably don't know the lore of the Gabbie Hannah Perfect Day song, but it's basically about how she had a perfect day with her guy she was dating and she thought it was. Was her boyfriend, and she saw that there was, like, I love you written in the mirror.
Oscar
She went and took a shower. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
And. But it wasn't her handwriting. So she thought. Or it wasn't his handwriting or something. She thought it was his.
Oscar
I thought it was like. Like another girl was staying, right?
Trisha Paytas
Yes, that's the gist. But how did she know it wasn't his handwriting?
Moses Hackman
Oh, I thought she found out her boyfriend was a ghost.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that was the other video. That was her first music video. What's that one?
Oscar
That. What is. That's one in the room. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Say what you mean out loud.
Moses Hackman
I was just guessing.
Trisha Paytas
You know it.
Moses Hackman
No, I was just guessing that that's what happened.
Trisha Paytas
Her boyfriend was a ghost the whole time at the end. Spoiler alert. I have a voice like her today because it's Lil Raspy. I know. The things he never says. I remember when it first came out, she played it for all the Vlog Squad people, and they were like. They're like, is this My Chemical Romance? They thought. They were like. They thought it was like a really emo song. Love it. Love Gabbie Hannah.
Oscar
Shout out.
Trisha Paytas
Shout out. Come to Pennsylvania if you want to perform would gag. Everything comes back to Gabbie Hannah. We love.
Oscar
I have. Yes, there was. I have a story that I've been dying to tell you because I. I was. You were so busy that I didn't even want to, like, text you or anything. So. But this was like. This was so. This was major.
Trisha Paytas
Wait, really?
Oscar
I got a major A list invitation. And even saying this now brings a tear to my eye. Ted Nivison invited me to his birthday party and. But I missed because I was too scared to look at my dms and I miss it. And how I saw it was I. He, like, launched a new podcast and I commented, obviously, standing, supporting. And then he DM me like a follow up. He's like, wow, you're commenting on my Instagram, but you won't like RCB to my party. And I thought, the only time I see DMs is when I'm in The app. And they pop up, like, at the top. Like, I never, like, check my inbox. And I was like, even I saw that, like, pop up. Just the little preview. And I was like, oh, my God. And then it took me. I waited, like, hours to open it and reply. And then it was. I opened it Thursday night. Last. Last week. And the party was Thursday night. And I was like, who's having a party on a Thursday night? I guess people are working on Friday.
Trisha Paytas
I'm like, I work, I guess.
Oscar
And then the flight coming up. So I was like, let me know. I. I think if I just had time to prepare, like, yeah, Invited me to his party and he.
Trisha Paytas
Did you bring him a present? Like, what do you do?
Oscar
What do you do exactly? What do you do? So I'm like. And I was like, ted, like, I can't believe I'm just seeing this, like, worst day ever. And it was like, the party was like, in three hours. He's like, but, Oscar, you can still come, though. And I'm like. I'm like, I couldn't reply. I couldn't.
Trisha Paytas
Did he say that?
Oscar
Yes. And I'm like, love that. Me too.
Trisha Paytas
But because the day of my party, I'm not texting people, please.
Oscar
I'm like, but this is the problem. This is where my brain went. I'm like, is Ted Nivison, like, in love with me? Like, genuine. That was a genuine me with Beth Fly.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, he's in love with me.
Oscar
It was in you and Bo and Yang, too. That was my genuine thought process. I was like, he really wants me at his party. Like, to follow up when I don't open the deal.
Trisha Paytas
That's crazy. That's why.
Oscar
And then to say, I can't make him be like, no, you still can.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, I think, amazing.
Oscar
I think Tenevism might be in love with me. And then it was like, that's crazy. And then in my head, too, I was like, well, how do I let him know? Like, you know, I'm in a relationship type. Like, it's not gonna work. That's genuinely where my head. And then I'd, like, talk myself backwards and be like, you know, that's just my.
Trisha Paytas
Wow, what a nice guy. Though I never follow up with. I wouldn't even follow up with Moses if he's coming. I'd be like, that's my party. I'm not following up with you. That's crazy.
Oscar
Crazy. And I'm like, I. I. If I just had, like, a day. If I saw it a day earlier, Like, I just needed time to, like, mentally prepare. Like, I. I just. I am so anxious in general. And Ted, like, that is like my original YouTube crush. That's like my original manifestation.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
That would be like, if Bowen Yang invited or like, Jonathan Bailey. If Jonathan Bailey invited you to go.
Trisha Paytas
Jonathan Bailey on my crush list.
Oscar
Oh, wow. So if Bowen invited you and you had, like, an hour, like, you just had an hour notice.
Trisha Paytas
I did. As soon as I come on a plane, I'm like, how. I guess, bye. Leaving my children behind. Bye. See you. Like, absolutely not.
Oscar
Sure you did do that. Maybe I should have taken a page out of your book. I was just so. I was not, like, mentally in the headspace for, like, a part. And it's also like, it's. The invite was like 200 people and I'm like that. It just seems like. Oh, it seems like a lot. So I don't know. But shout out Ted for inviting me to your party. I should have. I was really close, but if, literally, if I just had, like, a little bit more time to process that, I would have.
Trisha Paytas
But he sent me a link to something, but it looked like a spam thing. Like, it was like a link. And I was just like, this looks like spam. Because it said from Tennificent and it was just like a link. So I should open it and see what it is. But I'm sure it probably is that. Was there a link for it?
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that's so weird. It looks like a spam link or something.
Oscar
Yeah.
Moses Hackman
It's like, what happened to us with Jimmy. Yes, it was party.
Oscar
Same website.
Trisha Paytas
Wasn't the link. Don't give me a link. Give me an invite. Give me a graphic. That's what I need to see.
Oscar
I did issue a statement through Oscar Crave, though.
Trisha Paytas
Why don't you issue it as yourself? Why do you go through it? I mean, we love Oscar Crave, but.
Oscar
Exactly. Moses has that. Yeah. I have to go through, you know, my people. I can't just post an Instagram story.
Trisha Paytas
Love that they got there. I love it. I didn't know. I didn't even know. I wonder how that all happened. I'm glad that they got there.
Oscar
Yeah. Shout out to the craves. And I think I'm always a little.
Trisha Paytas
Stunned when I see them because I've never, ever experienced. Now I should just expect that they'll be. But I remember seeing him outside before I even went in. I recognized him, but I was kind of trying to place where I'm like, how do I know this person, but I was, okay, good to see you. Because I rec. Obviously he's recognizable, so I didn't put it. But now obviously, Trish Crave.
Moses Hackman
That's what's shocking is like all the craves. Like, it's their. They live in their own world and they have their own operation. Like, people think somehow we're working together, but it's not. They truly. They truly have their own way.
Trisha Paytas
And Oscar Graves, like a personality now. He shows his face like Trish Crave doesn't really show, so. And Church Crave is super cute too, by the way. But it is interesting because I'm like, oh. It's like, okay, it's like his full time job. But it's like not.
Oscar
I know. I mean, he does more work. Like, literally, I will never tweet or anything. I'll just be like, I'll retweet. Oscar Crave, who. He gets the news out faster than even I could, which both of them do.
Trisha Paytas
Trish Crave gets them out too. I was like, damn, they know everything. They're. They're on it. So you put out a statement?
Oscar
Yeah, I put out a statement through Oscar Crave and then I just forwarded to Ted. So he knew.
Trisha Paytas
So that's wild.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And that was love, putting out a statement.
Moses Hackman
Well, now if Ted is smart, next time he'll invite you through via Oscar Oscar Crave. Then you'll actually see.
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
So funny. Well, happy birthday, Ted. How old is he?
Oscar
I think he's 27. I know.
Trisha Paytas
It's crazy how young people are sometimes. I'm like, always a little shook when people are so young.
Oscar
Ted Nivison's 27th birthday party. I did see the photo booth photos roll out and I was like, damn, I did get. You should have been the same fomo.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Yeah. But I was already like trying to figure out going to New York and stuff too. So I'm like, this is just a lot for one boy and one weekend, you know?
Trisha Paytas
So I. It's overwhelming. That's how I feel. I'm just like, okay. There's just like so much stuff happening. I'm like, how do I. We don't even have a time for a Valentine's Day photo shoot. Because it's like at the music video and the tour and the rehearsals and I'm finally getting my teeth work finished tomorrow. I have these, like, temporary. So they're getting replaced tomorrow for permanent. I keep biting my tongue with it. So it's just like never any time for anything. But it's fine.
Oscar
Yeah, I'll. I will make time. Ted, if you do, invite me somewhere else. I really want to play basketball with him. That's my. That's my new manifestation.
Trisha Paytas
Well, he's not going to anymore. You didn't drop to his party?
Oscar
No. That's what. That's my fear, not inviting this person anywhere. That's why I'm putting it out there. Like, I will definitely come play basketball with you. I'll be there at your 28th birthday party. That's why I issued this statement. It was like I was. I'm so sorry. I. You know, I will be there with him in spirit. I'm always with Ted and spirit, for sure.
Trisha Paytas
So we're still with you in spirit. Happy birthday.
Oscar
Happy birthday, Ted Nivisin.
Trisha Paytas
Well, speaking of Bowen, too, by the way, he. It was cool because he was supposed to be the Empire State Building the day after me. Well, I didn't know. They told me. They're like, we do the pass the phone. Trying to say, I'm passing the phone. Like, Bowen Yang is coming tomorrow. Can you say, I'm passing the phone to someone who put me on a song? I'm like, oh, my God, that's so cool. So anyways, and I just texted him. I was like, hey, like, just letting you know. And that was my in. I was like, this is my time. Like, just so you know. And he was, like, so sweet. He was like, oh, my gosh, I can't wait. Can't wait to answer it. And then he's just like, oh, I wish I could shoot your show tonight. But he was promoting his film up at the Sundance Film Festival, so he was gone. And snl, I found out, is off for two weeks.
Oscar
Oh, no wonder. Cause they couldn't find the guest.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, they were off for it, I guess the Grammys and I guess the.
Oscar
Super bowl makes sense. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And then they'll be back with their 50th, like, the big one after the Super Bowl. So they're gonna have, like, people from past seasons come on and stuff, so that'll be, like, his big one. But he did. He did say congratulations and said he wished he could be there. So I was sad that he couldn't come, but I guess I invited him. I didn't know I wasn't going to because I was like, I just feel awkward inviting people in general. I just assume.
Moses Hackman
So I said, when she came back, the first thing I asked, ask is like, are they coming on the podcast? Rachel Zegler.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Ben Platt. She's like, I didn't ask. I was like, what do you mean?
Trisha Paytas
Because they're.
Moses Hackman
They're not gonna ask you to come to the podcast.
Trisha Paytas
But they're like, they did it for the benefit of it all. I don't think they want to come to.
Moses Hackman
No, but I think when Rachel knows. When Rachel does the press tour.
Trisha Paytas
He said that. He's like, oh, but she's doing press for Disney. I'm like, yeah, on, like, the Tonight Show. Not just Trish. I think. I feel like of all the people, I feel like she would say, yes, but I am never. That's crazy. That.
Moses Hackman
But there was another. That's another quote. She had there something to be brave.
Trisha Paytas
Enough to be sincere about what you want.
Moses Hackman
Like, you have to ask.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Like, it doesn't matter how.
Trisha Paytas
Maybe that was her hint to me.
Moses Hackman
To be like, it doesn't matter how crazy it is. You have to ask. Like, if you don't ask, it's not going to happen.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Here we are asking right now.
Trisha Paytas
She probably would. I just. I'm. I would be. I would be so. I'd be so nervous. I don't think I could even, like, breathe. I'd be, like, so nervous. I. I felt like that around her, even though she was, like, so nice and I did, like, loosen up, but. But I was very much like, this is, like, a really beautiful person, like, inside and out. Like, she was just, like, so pretty to look at. And then she was, like, also very nice. And then I think that's where my insecurities of being a troll and stuff in the past come up. And I just feel like, oh, my God. Like, you know, I just, like, can never, like, she's just so pure. I'm like the evil queen from Snow White. I just feel like, oh, my God, this. You know, and she's being still so sweet to me. And I was like, oh, my God, you really are Snow White. So anyways, maybe, I don't know. The confidence. Yeah. All right, well, y'all ask her.
Oscar
You have to.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, wow. You agree with most.
Oscar
Yeah, of course.
Trisha Paytas
Crazy.
Oscar
I know. I love that girl. She was my first clients.
Trisha Paytas
The first client.
Oscar
Remember, I took that. That's how it began. I took her on as a client because I'd never seen her in anything, but I was like, I'm gonna defend this girl until the end of time.
Trisha Paytas
Right, right.
Oscar
I remember my first client on the Oscar PR list.
Trisha Paytas
You get it, right? Sometimes you actually.
Oscar
Maybe you're my original client, because, you know, that's true.
Trisha Paytas
No, they do. I Know what I. When you posted a picture of us because we never get. We look good in that picture, too. Did you edit it a little?
Oscar
No. Your mug was stamped throughout the whole night. Like, it did not falter.
Trisha Paytas
I did see a tick tock talk about that. That said that they thought I was edited in photos, and they're like, no, she looked that good. That's Ari there. Everyone else is good at makeup, but I think, like, because no one is as good as her, I always feel ugly when other people do my makeup.
Oscar
So I really knows your face, like, so well.
Trisha Paytas
She knows it so well. I have an oily face and stuff, so she really does make it. Yeah. I had to look really good. We looked really good. But I was saying in that picture, I was like, oh, it's just like. Like, you really were. You really were the original Ride or Die for me through everything, which is, like, really cool and, like, kind of weird when you think about it, because it's like, you didn't really know me and I didn't really know you, and you always were, like, nice and, like, wrote for me, like, through everything, like, Access Hollywood, the first one, and then, like, ET and then just through everything. You've always been there for me.
Oscar
We always knew a lot of, like. And then meeting a lot of the people at the after party, too, because a lot of, like, the OG stands, they were there too, and it was like. It was so sweet. Everyone is like. Like, they're like, we always saw, like, the light in her. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, that is just, like, so pure and sweet and, like, wholesome. Yeah, it was really nice.
Trisha Paytas
You were. You are the original. You are the original person.
Oscar
I was on the front lines for a long time.
Trisha Paytas
You faltered because, you know, I falter from people all the time. I'm like, well, I don't like them anymore. You know what I mean? And it's easy to switch on people, and you never switch. Even when you love David, too, you never switch.
Oscar
That is true.
Trisha Paytas
You wrote for me in those interviews, too, and I love that. I was like, wow, it's so cool. I do love our interviews. I do love our lore.
Oscar
Yeah, it goes back. Yeah, it does go deep. I kind of forget it sometimes, too.
Trisha Paytas
I do, too.
Oscar
And then, like, a clip or something will come up and I'm like, wow. Really Was on the front lines?
Trisha Paytas
Yes. When I introduced you to my dad, did you see the interview with Oscar Craig with my dad?
Oscar
No, I didn't see it.
Trisha Paytas
So funny. He's like, what did he say. He said something like, I'm Oscar Craig. He's like, oh, you're her co host. Like, he never watches the podcast. This is before he met you. So this is, like, the beginning of it.
Moses Hackman
He doesn't know what the crave is. You know what I mean? So he hears I'm Oscar. I was like, oh.
Trisha Paytas
He's like, yeah. He's like, no, I'm not Oscar. It was like, so funny. Cause he never watches the podcast. He knows about it. No. Then we came backstage, and it was literally just like, my dad and you and Nicole and my stepmom and whatever. But I was like, telling my dad, I was like, this is Oscar. And then he was really excited. Cause he knows the podcast. He knows my ups and downs and stuff, but he doesn't really watch it. And he knows that the podcast does well. And I'm like, it's Oscar. He's the reason it's successful and made it good. He knew what we needed to do. I remember our initial phone call on Zoom, too. You're like, like, people, like, the back and forth, like, talking. And that is so true. Cause, like, whenever I did a solo podcast, which was like, all my podcasts basically, like, the lost one, the District, like, it's just hard to talk to yourself, and it's just so much easier to talk with someone, but also someone who knows what's up, who's smart, who knows pop culture, who cares about the same things we do. You know what I mean? And I feel like that works. And we are different enough that it's not like we agree on everything.
Oscar
It's not like an echo chamber all the time. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Which is nice, but it's also safe. It's also not, like, triggering you. You know what I mean? It's also just like.
Oscar
It is a big part of it. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Which is good. So, yeah, it was cool. It was very cool to see that my dad. My dad was living his best life talking to everybody.
Moses Hackman
He was just happy he got his first Getty images.
Trisha Paytas
He did. He got images. They put his name, too. Frank Paytas. I wonder if he told him. I was like, how did they get his name on there?
Moses Hackman
That's so pretty. I love that dress. The gold dress you had.
Trisha Paytas
We finally got a good Getty image. Thank you. Yeah. That was Garo Sparrow. Shout out my New York designers. Yeah. Got some good Getty images. I have no idea. I don't know how Getty shows up with these things, but I was happy to see it there. I need to post it we need to grab it. That says Getty Images so I can post it because I only had one from Wicked, but this was like a million. Did you see Jonathan Bailey's new Wicked photo that just was released?
Oscar
Yes, I did. And his Jurassic World Rebirth trailer also came out too, today. It came out today.
Trisha Paytas
And to react to that.
Oscar
Excited. Yeah, he is. He's like a cute scientist in it. And, you know, I don't know, it gives me Ted Nivison vibes. Weird. Like, it's the glasses, I think in science. Like, I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, then you give me Jonathan Bailey vibes.
Oscar
But he's like a sci fi science guy, you know? Okay.
Trisha Paytas
But a hot one. Not that Ted's very good looking, but Jonathan Bailey is like, actually like, like perfect.
Oscar
I don't know. I think Ted, Jonathan Bailey, like, they're similar.
Trisha Paytas
Someone we know said they saw him on riot. Do you believe that? You think Jonathan Bailey was on riot?
Oscar
This was, he said, also back in the day, like before Bridgerton took off. So I probably. Yeah. Now probably not because I feel like you'd probably see it more because gays can't keep their mouth shut, obviously, so.
Trisha Paytas
Right, right.
Oscar
I feel like once he took off, he probably, you know, once he saw, oh, I'm gonna lose in season two, let me not be on Raya. He probably doesn't even need it anymore, so.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. Like. Yeah. Wow. Do you think he just like, you think he hooks up a lot of people? I think he's more like low key. I always wanted that because he's so. You know what I mean? Like, he's so good looking. But it must be hard.
Oscar
I feel like he must be a little bit more low key. Right. Because like, everyone's just messy. So I feel like you would like the gays that'd be hot enough for Jonathan Bailey. I don't think they could keep their mouth shut.
Trisha Paytas
I don't think he likes a hot one. I think he likes. I think he likes a middle.
Oscar
It is a rise of mid, you know?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. There's no way he's gonna go with like a Matt Bomer type. You know what I mean?
Oscar
That's true.
Trisha Paytas
I think he's gonna go with. Well, I won't call anyone mid. But you know, the Mids. The Mids out there, I could see it. God, I. I really do love him. Maybe him. Paul Mescal would be cute together if.
Oscar
Paul Mescal was queer, I suppose.
Trisha Paytas
Is he not?
Oscar
No, he's straight. He's Jeannie Gracie Abrams.
Trisha Paytas
We always talk about that picture. Yes, but Elmie, there was one straight person in there.
Oscar
Yes. It's a photo of Matt Bomer. Matt Bomer, Jonathan Bailey, Andrew Scott, Paul Mescal. Who else is it?
Trisha Paytas
That's it. That's just a four.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Andrew Scott is.
Oscar
Andrew Scott is queer. Is gay. Yeah. Paul Mescal is the only straight one. He's dating Gracie Abrams. Danielle, you know Gracie Abrams?
Trisha Paytas
No.
Oscar
Oh, maybe you know that that Tick Tock trend made it out a lie, but I think I lost it. I said that I was fine. That's my life. That's my life. That's Gracie Abrams.
Trisha Paytas
Love her. Stan her all day long.
Oscar
Oh, she wasn't some cont. That's a good segue. She was in a little controversy today. Actually, it's fresh. Fresh controversy. She did an interview with Cosmopolitan and she got asked about her abs.
Trisha Paytas
And what a weird question.
Oscar
It was a weird question. Her abs did go viral on Tick Tock because she, like, on tour, she wears, like, a lot of crop tops and she just has great abs. Like, it's like fierce, really defined. And then she clapped back about when she got asked about it. Cosmopolitan asked her, how does it feel that the Internet is talking about your abs right now and that everyone is demanding you share your workout routine? And she replied, it has gotten kind of out of hand. There's no end to the discourse on women's bodies. Like, Jesus Christ, shut up. It's not complicated. It's not your body. I don't have a routine. I swear on my life.
Trisha Paytas
Love it.
Oscar
And to me, I'm like, that's a little intense for someone just like, thinking that you have a great body, though. I love Gracie Abrams, but I was like, that's kind of intense.
Trisha Paytas
Really? I think the opposite. I would also shop you. I hate when people ask body questions. I just think, like, why are we even asking? Do you know what I mean?
Oscar
I guess so. Yeah. But it's like, I have, like. That's like, people. It's like, so hard to attain. And she obviously must have worked really hard for it. So I'm like, I like the message.
Trisha Paytas
Saying it's not about my body. You know, I'm gonna say she's like a talented musician. She's probably like, what the. That's about my song. Ask about my music. You know, I like that. I even like it when. When people like that. Shut it down. Because like you said, even when people work out of the body, it's like, I'm more than my body, you know? What?
Oscar
I mean, yeah, that makes sense. I think to me it was like, that's a little intense because I think I like it. I guess if I had abs, I would love to be asked about them. Be like, well, let me tell you, you know.
Trisha Paytas
But I know what you're saying, like, if I lost a bunch of weight and people like, oh, my God, I love your hundred pound weight loss. I'm gonna be like you. But I know, like, I do like the discourse of shining things out. I've been so good at that too. Like, not commenting on people's body because I, you know, when I see someone with a really cute body, I always want to be like, oh, my God, you're so tiny. You're so cute. You know? But it's like, yeah, we shouldn't be commenting on people's bodies at all. But I know what you mean. Like, you work hard, you think, like, especially you, like, show it off. Like, I'm sure Jonathan Bailey appreciates people like, wow, look at his body, you know?
Oscar
Yeah. Because Gracie doesn't.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know.
Oscar
She also, like, her whole Cosmo spread, too, was just like her in like a. In a bra and like, it was like lingerie vibes. Weirdly so.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
And like every time she's on tour, like, a lot of her touring costumes are like bralettes or crop tops. So she does, you know, be showing off her abs all the time.
Trisha Paytas
I want you to ask about it. Yeah, I could get that. I even think with Jonathan Bailey, he probably could. Sick of people like, wow, you're like, your body's so high. He's like, but I'm also like an actor. You know what I mean?
Oscar
Yeah, I guess.
Trisha Paytas
So he's more than just his abs.
Oscar
Yeah, I guess. I guess it is similar to, like, equate it with something. I guess it would be similar to, like, when an actress gets in shape for like a superhero movie. And it's always. Because I always hate those questions because for this one, I was kind of like, pro. Everyone being like, Gracie, you're doing too much. I was like, maybe like, relax a little. But I guess the equivalent would be if Scarlett Johansson getting in shape for Avengers or something. And everyone was like, oh, like, how did you get in shape to be a superhero? And I'm always like, ill. Why are you asking her that? So I guess that is a good. Just don't ask women's bodies.
Trisha Paytas
In a way, I guess that is it. I think, like, the. Probably the reporter was trying to be like, nice.
Oscar
Well, she did Also, a whole spread in vogue in October of last year. And the whole thing was like Gracie Abrams AB routine, too. So maybe after that she was like, okay, this is too much. Yeah. Huh?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that's true. That. Yeah, that's true. Like, someone, like, researching me and, like, ask me about body positivity. Like, how dare you ask me? I guess I like it, though. I. I don't know her. I gotta look her up. I like her.
Oscar
I like her.
Trisha Paytas
The Tik Tok song songs go so viral. The guy. I didn't know who this person was before the Grammys. The one in the blue.
Oscar
Benson Boone.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I was like, oh, that song from Tik Tok. I'm like, that's what I thought too. I was like, that's so weird.
Moses Hackman
I mean, I know the song in general, but I've never seen him ever.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't either.
Oscar
I see a lot of Benson Boone.
Trisha Paytas
Is he. What's his deal? What's he up to?
Oscar
Well, he's the one that. You know his lore, though, because he was on American Idol. He was that one.
Trisha Paytas
How do we know this? I kind of know this.
Oscar
I kind of do. He was. He was on American Idol. I think he quit. I forget what season, but it was a recent one because Katy Perry was a judge. And then I think he ended up quitting American Idol. He didn't get, like, super foreign in it. And, yeah, he went solo. He got. He gives Harry Styles nachos a little bit. Like, I think he heated up Harry Styles nachos a little bit.
Trisha Paytas
What is heating up nachos? Because I saw this on Twitter. Someone's like, give it a week till Bowen Yang is a plate of nachos and saying, everyone's heating me up. And I'm like, what does that mean? Twitter? Yeah. Like, I don't know what it was. What is not that heating up nachos?
Oscar
Like, it could be either way. Like, you want the nachos. They're aspiring to be, like, someone you reheated or not. You took their nachos, reheated them. That means you take their old stick and then you made it. You made it your thing.
Trisha Paytas
I love it.
Oscar
So that's me with everybody being, like, a little more femme, I guess, in his style with, like, the blue pantsuit, like the jumpsuit, and like, the. The reveal. And he does a lot of flips, although people are giving him for, like, flipping all the time in his performances.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. I think I've seen him flip before.
Oscar
Yeah, he flipped at the VMAs. He's he's a flipper.
Trisha Paytas
He.
Oscar
He does flip left and right. And honestly, I can't hate him for that because if I could flip, I would be. I'd be flipping right here all day.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Oscar
I think it's cool when people flip.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Because it's like, whoa, how do you do that? Yeah, I like his vibe. Yeah. It doesn't. I don't. I don't know if he's straight or queer, but I'm straight or.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Okay.
Oscar
He's a girlfriend right now, so.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, who's his girlfriend?
Oscar
I know her name is Maggie, but I don't know who she is. I just know because on Tik Tok, people are like, it's been some boon cheating on Maggie, but people. It's literally just like, people filming themselves and writing that on text. And I'm like, well, you can't just throw that out there with no. Like, it's not even a photo.
Trisha Paytas
I feel like the club Chris things do that. They just, like, all say, okay, guys, like, it's a private account. Like, we're all gonna do this, and people are gonna wonder what this is. You know what I mean? So maybe that's it. That's so interesting. Oh, yeah, I liked him. I liked his vibe. He gave me the only, like, guy performance, and I was like, I guess this guy's good.
Oscar
Yeah. I like his album a lot. He does rely on that body. Ody. Ody quite a bit. He's always in an American flag of Speedo for some reason, but he has a good body, so show it off. But maybe don't ask him now. Don't ask now. I'm confused. I'm like, do we ask about his abs or.
Trisha Paytas
No, I never ask about anyone's body because I just assume, like, what if someone has an ab complex? What if they wish they had better abs than they do? You know what I mean?
Oscar
I don't know, but he is naked a lot.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Wow.
Oscar
He's on Snapchat naked a lot, so. Oh, not Snapchat Instagram story. No. And snap.
Trisha Paytas
Like, naked naked or just covered with a Speedo.
Oscar
He'll cover, like, with Speedo, but he'll be, I guess, seemingly naked, I should say, because, you know, he covers enough. But it could look like either way. Like, is he naked? Is he not? I should say.
Trisha Paytas
All right, the lore Benson Boone.
Oscar
But he was kind of in a little. That's another great segue. You're really teeing me up today.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you.
Oscar
Sizzle had a reaction to his performance because it, like, cut to her after the performance ended and he, like, adjusted his crotch.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah.
Oscar
And then people were like, I was not feeling that. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Wait, but was he adjusting? I guess he had to, like, just be comfortable.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Well, I mean, I don't know.
Oscar
He posted on his Instagram story a statement, because the scissors reaction. Although also, I feel like people look a lot to people's reactions, you know, because it wasn't making anything, like, overtly annoyed. But people were like, oh, she wasn't feeling it.
Trisha Paytas
What's he saying? Like, right next to her.
Oscar
She was in the audience. I think she was in one of the front tables.
Moses Hackman
Oh, what was her reaction?
Oscar
What did she just mean? Like a. Like, it wasn't a. She sat down and she. Jimmy will put it in here so the audience can dissect it, I suppose. But she just, like, made. She wasn't clapping, smiling. She was just like.
Trisha Paytas
Like, oh, well, that doesn't seem like anything.
Oscar
No, again, it does. I think people look into a lot of people's reactions for everything. Again, it seemed kind of neutral to me, but everyone's like, ooh. Because it went from him grabbing his crotch, then to Sza being like.
Trisha Paytas
I just think if it was trying to be comfortable, it's not like he was trying to be lewd.
Oscar
Yeah. He said he issued a statement on his Instagram story, not through Oscar Crave, and said, sorry for adjusting my jumpsuit so aggressively on stage tonight. And he said something about, like, if he wants to have babies, he had to, like, adjust just the package.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, wow. Okay.
Oscar
I get may. Am I. Maybe I'm the hater today, cuz I'm like, yeah, he did turn around like a second later and walk off. So. Couldn't you have literally waited 10 seconds to fix your package?
Moses Hackman
No, it was. It was very performative.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, of course. Controversy.
Moses Hackman
Look at some people showed up naked to the Grammys. I mean, that's. So he just adjusted himself.
Trisha Paytas
Michael Jackson used to grab his crotch all the time and no one cared of everything. It was kind of a mood. I hate that. Like, like. Well, I guess it could be sexual, I guess. Whatever. I don't know. I feel like genitals are just like, shouldn't be sexualized.
Oscar
Should or shouldn't?
Trisha Paytas
Shouldn't. You gotta adjust it, move it. I gotta adjust my boobs. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I hate that. Like, it's even just like if you itch something or touch something. I was like, oh, my God, you're sexual. You're Touching your boobs, it's like, crazy. It's like, so, like. I think Tik Tok is like that. Like, you can't even, like, go anywhere close to touching them. I'm like, oh, my gosh. What if I just have to, like, adjust or pull something up or something? You know what I mean? It's not like he was doing it, like. Like, you know, sexually.
Oscar
I see. Yeah. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
People just make it such a big thing. But I guess it's like the grip, but like you said, I guess. Yeah. Wait 10 seconds. I don't know.
Oscar
It literally was just like 10 seconds. I. I get mid performance almost, because if you can't, like, you know, hit your marks and stuff because it's so uncomfortable, but you were almost there, you know, like, if. If you really didn't want to do it, like, on stage, you know, you could have just waited, you know, 10 seconds.
Trisha Paytas
I would always have to take it out because it hurt. I'd always get hemorrhoids, and I would take it out. I stopped wearing it. I just wear ba. I wear now. I think he should have just. Yeah. I don't know, maybe get a bigger bodysuit, a jumpsuit for it. You know what I mean? So it's not all the way up.
Oscar
Or a tuck or something, you know.
Trisha Paytas
I always think about that when I watch drag races. Those tucks, I was like, God, they really. They really push it up in there.
Oscar
Yeah. And you don't see any drag queens complaining about that, so.
Trisha Paytas
Never do.
Oscar
Yeah. Honestly, now I'm getting. I was coming back to, like, okay, Benson, Boom, but now I'm coming backwards, and I'm like, wait, if a drag queen can get through, you know, performing or even like a. They do award shows and stuff, they're there all night long and they're fine, you know, so. Come on.
Trisha Paytas
Superhumans.
Oscar
Yeah. They are built different, for sure.
Trisha Paytas
Buns and Boom. Can never do what Sasha Cole.
Oscar
Yeah. Like, because I think he does try to give a little bit of, like, a little bit of drag or something, because his performance are a little bit more avant garde, I suppose, you know, but it would never be. Did you say Joella?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I think that Janella. But I say. I was trying to think. I was like, honestly.
Oscar
Yeah. I could never compare.
Trisha Paytas
Right.
Oscar
Who's Janella Puss?
Trisha Paytas
I think she does the music for Drag Race. I don't know.
Oscar
I love that.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I was thinking. Joella. Yeah, I think it's Janella. I think. I don't know. I could be wrong. I love Joella, but, yeah, drag queens are amazing. Yeah. His performance kind of boring, but I.
Oscar
Love that he flips. And I like this little reveal. He. Again, that was also kind of drag. The. The reveal.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, right. Him like, getting his clothes ripped off.
Oscar
Yeah, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Who did that? Was it Nikki Glaser and someone.
Oscar
Nikki Glaser and I think Heidi Klum kind of iconic. Yeah. Obviously the Grammys are a little bit older now, but I have some beats that were, like, the most talked about that are still kind of being talked about. I think the most viral moments of the Grammys was the pre show, the red carpet.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. I did a TikTok about it too. I was just like, what the hell is happening?
Oscar
Where the AP interviewer stopped babyface mid sentence to interview Chapel Rome. It was crazy. It was crazy.
Trisha Paytas
Really at the forefront. Can you talk about just this new trend that we're seeing in R B where we're seeing more of a fusion. We're seeing people blend the genre. Genre with pop, blend the genre with hip hop and. And rock as well. Yes. I think it's interesting.
Oscar
You guys want to do that? Go do that. Hello.
Trisha Paytas
How's it going? That was crazy. I talked about this on my tick tock. I was like, even if you're, like, talking to, like, Jojo Siwa and like, Britney Spears comes behind her, I'm never gonna be, like, cutting off Jojo Siwa. Like, Britney, Britney. That's crazy. Like, you're talking to someone, they're answering like, that's the crazy.
Moses Hackman
Finished asking a question. They're not even like, it's not like somebody's long winded and like, okay, thank you. Like, they just finished asking a question. Let them answer.
Oscar
Yeah, that was.
Trisha Paytas
Was that person a reporter or was she just, like, hired on the day of to do it?
Oscar
I don't know the lore behind. I pretty sure she's a reporter for the ap because I think it. I know, like, there's some stunts, you know, casting, if you will, for, like, red carpets. Like, I think Zach sang did Access Hollywood. I was supposed to. You almost did one.
Trisha Paytas
I almost did. I'm so mad. And I'm gonna be gone for the Oscars too. I can't believe it. I mean, it's fine. I'll be in Salt Lake City next year.
Moses Hackman
Just let them know you're keeping the dates open.
Oscar
Yeah. You need a schedule according to these big events. Next time.
Trisha Paytas
Devastated because I see. I know Drew does it for InStyle and. Yeah. Zach saying. Actually, I was like, what the Hell.
Oscar
But this one, I don't think was a stunt reporter. I think she was just, you know, a genuine adrenalist. And I. I know because again, I. I always think and speak to, like, the benefit. Give them the benefit of the doubt. Because I know how, like, long and, like, mentally draining, physically draining, like, red carpet reporting is. But at the end of the day, you still gotta have tact. You know, you can't just, you know, you can't stop someone mid sentence. There's a classy way to do. To do it. Like, this is. I was thinking about it. I was like, how would I would have done it? And so then Babyface, you know, he's speaking. Let him finish his statements. I'm like. And, you know, we have. You are obviously a Grammys legend. And we also have an upcoming Grammy legend behind us. We have Chapel Roan here, who is nominated for Best New Artist Record of the Year, Song of the year tonight. Baby Face. Are you a fan of Chapel? And then Chapel come, and then you have them have a little moment, and then Baby Face walks away. And then you have Chapel. That's kind of how you go about it usually.
Trisha Paytas
So is it. So it is the reporter, the person interviewing, like Danny Directo, he has to say goodbye to the person and bring up the next person. It's not. There's no one handling them.
Oscar
It depends. So, like, the bigger ones for the bigger events, like the Grammys level. Right. So the Grammys level, we usually. For the bigger platforms as well. Like, it's like a broadcast one, so it's a little bit bigger. There's like a producer who's at the front of the platform that's like talking to the publicist as they come up. Like, oh, I have Chapel. Really great. We'll take her right now. Or we're just wrapping up. We'll take her. So there's usually someone that, like, is in the front of the platform that, like, mediates, you know, and tees them up.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Oscar
I thought for ap, I mean, they're a big platform. Like, the Associated Press is huge. That's where everyone kind of gets their news from. Like, a lot of websites publish AP articles because it's kind of like. It's like a Getty image where they just have, like, articles that anyone can publish. So it's a big outlet. So I would pretty. I would think that they definitely have, like, a producer there or something. And even beyond that, it looks like Chapel's publicist was, like, willing to wait. Like, she was doing a lot of Press. Yeah. I think she easily would have waited like a second, you know?
Trisha Paytas
Sure. Yeah. She probably didn't know what was happening as far as that goes.
Oscar
So. It's so odd.
Trisha Paytas
I. This is my only hater moment because I'm in on a high right now. I feel positive, but I do think, like, I don't really have any sympathy because that's kind of just also like a bad person. Like, that's like in real life, if you're at a party and you're just like looking around for someone like more famous or better to talk to, I think those are like the worst people.
Oscar
In the whole world.
Trisha Paytas
And it's like you're doing that also on camera, but it's also baby face. You're like, like, I know.
Oscar
13 time Grammy winner.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Which is nice.
Trisha Paytas
I'm saying it's like, it's not even like, it is just like Jojo Siwa. It's like, it's like, so what? So you're just like a person and then like, I don't know. I don't, I don't. I have no empathy. But if that's your job, if you're doing this full time too. I'm also like, what is happening? Like, what is wrong with you? Yeah.
Oscar
And she's also like, check. Like I got someone must have been like in her ear or something because she all of a sudden she like, what, like, leans back. She's like this. Or maybe someone told her something off camera. But even so. So I don't know if it's like bad producing or something as well. But again, you just have to. You. That happens a lot where, like, you know, you have someone who is like the musket, you know, Obviously Chapel is nominated that night. She's performing. She is the artist interview.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
But you still have to have tack. You have to be able to wrap up like, in a way that's not disrespectful, respectful, you know. And like your job as a journalist and like as a reporter on red carpet is like make the talent, the star feel comfortable and not. And like you care. You can't like be tuned out during the interview.
Trisha Paytas
I hated it so much. It like filled me with so much rage. I was like, those people are just awful. I hate people like that. It's like so, so rude.
Oscar
I tried so hard to be like, to think I did the mental gymnastics. Okay. Like, maybe someone was like. And I know again, I've been there too, where you have to like you. You go to a carpet and you're like, okay, you have to get this person at whatever. At any cost. Whatever. I get people like, you know, breathing down your neck, and you get in trouble if you don't get someone. But again, Chapel.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Well, I looked like the. There was like a.
Moses Hackman
There was still distance.
Oscar
Yes. There was so. Something.
Moses Hackman
She was passing them, like, yeah, we're missing her.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Just kind of like waiting down there.
Oscar
Exactly. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
It was weird.
Oscar
I don't. I don't think they would have missed her.
Moses Hackman
And there were two people too.
Oscar
Yeah. Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Like, they could have at least one of them kind of like, move away. Go Flag Chapel. Let the person finish the conversation.
Trisha Paytas
Or someone else flag or, you know, have her wait or something. Yeah. But literally, the guy, when he was finishing his answer, he could be like, okay, thank you. That was great. Have a great night tonight. Literally, just like anything that was. That was wild. And their apology was awful. Everything about that was. I. That's the only thing I commented on the whole weekend, I was like, I have to make a TikTok about this because it was so annoying.
Oscar
Yes. They. I'll read their statements. So to do our due journalistic diligence, they. The AP issued a statement saying, we are deeply sorry for cutting our interview with Babyface short on our YouTube live stream of the Grammys red carpet. We have apologized to him, Baby Face, through his representative and to our viewers on the live stream.
Trisha Paytas
The Oscar.
Oscar
Yeah. And then Babyface also released a statement. When asked by today, he said, the best part of the night was reconnecting with old friends, meeting new artists, and feeling all the love in the room. That's what I'll remember. That's what it's really about. Music is bigger than any one moment. So that's a nice. Classy.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I would have been like, seriously, that's so rude. I mean, if it was me, it'd be funny because I'm like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. But I mean, that's. Seriously, I would. That's so annoying, those people. I think you're just like, the worst person in the whole world.
Oscar
Yeah. And I Again, I try to think, like, okay, they're probably just very excited to meet Chapel or something. And they were also scared they were gonna walk. But you just. You have to have.
Trisha Paytas
Did they do an interview with Chapel that then.
Oscar
Yeah, they did get Chapo after I didn't watch it. I just saw. I just saw that clip of, like, you know, baby. Baby Face was like, okay, you guys can go do that. And then he walked away. And then.
Moses Hackman
Yeah, he was very nice, but he was just. He was like, do you guys want to do that?
Oscar
Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Like, I'll move.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I know he was very nice, so.
Moses Hackman
And which is awkward because it should have come from them.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Not from him. To be like, okay, do you want me to end this?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. That was.
Oscar
And Chapel is the nicest team ever. Not even just saying, like, they're all like, her public is very nice. Her. Misha was with Chapel. Misha, obviously.
Trisha Paytas
She looks so good at the camera. Yes.
Oscar
During the. Trevor, Noah, like, yes. And I get so. Again, I'm so. I don't. I get anxious for everything. I wanted to be like, you look great. But I'm like. I don't want her, like, to think I'm like, you know, weird Stan or whatever. I know. Because she did look so good. Even commenting her Instagrams, I'm like. I'm like, I'm gonna just give her a like, so she knows. And I guess now she's probably watching and we'll know that I loved but love her.
Trisha Paytas
She did, like, so good.
Oscar
But her whole team is so sweet. Like, they would have waited a second. You. You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
So if it's not meant to be, it's not gonna be meant to be. Like, I always say about that, too. I was like, okay, we don't need to force things to happen. You know what I mean? Just, like, let it happen. That was so wild.
Oscar
Yeah, it was nuts.
Trisha Paytas
I kind of missed it. I remember after rehearsal, everyone was, like, going to go watch the Grammys. Like, people were going to, like, bars to watch the Grammys. It was, like, a big thing. And I kind of only saw the performances, so I didn't really get to see anything in between.
Oscar
But, I mean, it's. They only announced, I believe, nine awards, so it is mostly performances, like, mostly concerts.
Trisha Paytas
What did you think of Taylor Swift standing up during the Sabrina Carpenter love?
Oscar
I mean, that's. That's what she does during, like, she. That's just her thing. And I know people. There's. It goes either way. I think for the most part, like, the general public was, like, into it, but sometimes people think it's annoying. But the artists themselves have said they, like when she does that. Like, okay, I remember Demi Lovato. I think it was the VMA she performed, and Demi Lovato not even, like, a Taylor fan. Like, they've had a lot of beef. And she was like, it made me feel so much better, like, looking in the crowd and seeing Taylor, like, standing up and Dancing and singing along. Because I guess, like, if you're seal of approval. Yeah, for sure.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Who wouldn't want Taylor Swift dancing?
Oscar
Yeah. If you're performing to, like, your peers and you're afraid, like, you don't. Don't know if they're feeling it or not to see, like, Taylor Swift, like, you know, like, if you're performing and when you.
Trisha Paytas
On Broadway. Yeah, exactly.
Oscar
Like, wouldn't you feel good?
Trisha Paytas
Like, I would feel good. See, but that's a good perspective because I was seeing all the other perspectives of, like, everyone else sitting and it was literally just her standing up and dancing. And the camera's like, right there, there. I like. Of course. I think so. Because, like, a Taylor Swift would be so cool. But. Yeah, I mean, maybe a little distracting now.
Oscar
I don't think so. I think not really. I mean, it's.
Trisha Paytas
I think it's cute because everyone is filming her. I saw all the angles of everyone filming her.
Oscar
Yeah.
Moses Hackman
Because when she stands out by herself dancing, you know, the cameras are going to go to her. So then that means they're not going on stage or.
Trisha Paytas
Which I guess they don't care. But it is.
Oscar
I don't think it's. But it's like, not her. Like, the camp. The cameras. I think the Grammys are really good at the VMAs. Gets a little crazy because they cut to her a lot. Like, I think last year or the year before at the VMAs, they literally set up a Taylor cam that was like, literally just like an odd. Like, it would be like me like this camera right here. It's like they set up a camera literally right in front of her as she sat in the audience. For her to react to everything.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
This one, I think they were pretty fair about cuttings her only here and there. I think she was just having fun. And obviously she's friends with Sabrina, so that also adds an element to it. But I think as an artist, I think it would be nice to feel supported, I think. Especially if I agree.
Trisha Paytas
I. Yeah, of course.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But I do think it takes. I just saw only that of Sabrina's performance. I only saw Taylor Swift, which I was like, okay, work. I didn't see Sabrina's performance, but she looked good. She looked cute.
Oscar
I was. She gave a really good performance. She's a. And I was thinking about this. She was like, it's. I feel like the girls who had the. The childhood acting experience really know how to deliver, like, a performance because her performance was so, like, campy. It had so many elements.
Trisha Paytas
The stairs on the beginning, I think. Think.
Oscar
Yeah. And like, a little tap dancing number. Very Suzy Toot with the tap dancing.
Trisha Paytas
So iconic.
Oscar
And then there was a moment where she, like, she had these, like, fake malfunctions that were going on. It was, like, very, like, I don't know, like, variety show kind of vibes. You know, it was very camp, very cute. And it. She had these setups where, like, things were going wrong, but obviously it was all for play. But, like, like, an Ariana also gives really good performances. And, like, was she there? No, but I'm thinking of, like, the. The acts, like, had childhood acting first, you know, like, Olivia Rodrigo does also those kind of, like, really good performances. Because. Because I think Taylor on the opposite side, like, she's very, like, literal with her performances. It's like, I'm drunk. I'm drunk in the back of the car, and I cry like a baby coming home from the bar.
Trisha Paytas
I'm gonna do that. That's my Choreo's tour. I gotta watch her, so that way I can also get.
Oscar
Yeah, she's very, like, little literal with, like, her movements and stuff, and I love that too. But I think, like, the girls who have, like, the acting experience are a little bit more. I don't know, they give, like, a more. A different vibe. That's more, like, natural, I guess, in a way.
Trisha Paytas
Where do I fall into the categories?
Oscar
I think you're, like, a Taylor vibe too. You're very little.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, I'll take it. I am doing the eras of Trish.
Oscar
So I love it.
Trisha Paytas
I gotta stand her. Okay, great. Love it.
Oscar
Yeah. But I love Sabrina's performance. My favorite two favorite performances were Dochi and Chapel, and they're both queer, so I'm like, we love a queer performance.
Trisha Paytas
I actually didn't get to see Chapel, so I need to watch it. I love Doji's, and I love Cynthia Rivos. I love. Oh, man, her voice was queer.
Oscar
Girls were taking it.
Trisha Paytas
They were. You're so right. Oh, my gosh, it was so good. Was Cynthia sitting next to Taylor?
Oscar
That was actually cute. So Cynthia couldn't find her seat at the Grammys at the beginning, so Taylor scooted over and told her to come sit because she was looking around dead. And then Taylor was like, come here. And, like, she made room on her chair for her.
Trisha Paytas
Taylor seems like not a real person. She's like, you come. This is a star right here. I love that about her. She seems, like, very sweet. She seems nice.
Oscar
Yeah, she. She was kind of just There for a good time. I think. I think she knew she wasn't gonna win, so they.
Trisha Paytas
Who won? Who won her out? What. What one? What was she nominated for and who won it?
Oscar
She was not. She was nominated in the big category. So Beyonce won album of the year. That was kind of a shock. I thought Brat Beyonce was my second guess. Guess. But Jay Z called out the Grammys last year for never giving her an album of the year award.
Trisha Paytas
They got scared.
Oscar
I was like. I thought maybe it would be. They would wait an extra year or something because I'm like, then it's like a. Yeah. But deserve she. The fact that she's been like, the most nominated for it. Never gotten it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Crazy. So I was happy with that. Kendrick won song of the year and record of the year. I just predicted record of the year for him, but wow you.
Trisha Paytas
So it came to yours.
Oscar
Yeah, Half. Yeah. Because he got record of the year. I thought Chapel might have gotten song of the year, but she only got best new artist, which is still huge. I did protect that one. Sabrina got pop vocal.
Trisha Paytas
Crazy. We didn't know. We didn't think that one, though.
Moses Hackman
He did. Yeah. He said he's popped.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. No. Pop girls don't get it. I didn't. Right. Good for her. I was so happy.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
All them.
Oscar
I. I was pretty happy with this year's Grammys and it would help that it was all the girlies, you know? Dochi won best rap album.
Trisha Paytas
Dochi is so good. I love all her songs. They're so. They're like TikTok viral now too. And I'm like, so obsessed with all that.
Oscar
And it's funny because she literally, like, during the pandemic or like, you know, 2021, like, she had a lot of, like, those campy, like, Tick Tock songs where her label was telling her to make TikTok songs. And I love that she's just making music she wants to make. And it's still going viral on Tick Tock, which I think is a great message for artists, you know?
Trisha Paytas
So good. I don't push me. I love it, so I want to do it so bad. But I'm like, I look crazy.
Oscar
I know. Me too.
Trisha Paytas
So cute.
Oscar
I just rap along in my head in my car because I don't want to embarrass myself. But I love.
Trisha Paytas
I love her, like, vibes too. Like when she's performing on, like, Tonight show and stuff. She just looks so cute.
Oscar
Yes. Her tiny desk concert is also really good.
Trisha Paytas
Watched it.
Oscar
It's really, really really good. She's just a great artist, and I love that she. Again, the qu. Seeing the queer artist just makes me so happy right now.
Trisha Paytas
They're taking over.
Oscar
They're taking over, and I love. I love to see it.
Trisha Paytas
Love it. I know there was an article that was written about my show, and they're like, not a straight man in the audience. That's what I want to see. I should. I think it might have been EJ's. I'm like, I'm gonna circle that and post it. Absolutely. I love to see it. Yeah. It's the year of the Queer.
Oscar
It is. But we do have one sad queer story, and that is the Emilia Perez backlash is nuts with Carla Sophia Gascon.
Trisha Paytas
So how did this spiral so out of control? So, like, she just said so she basically broke the rules by saying that's another actress that was nominated was, like, trying to sabotage Amelia Perez. That's how it started.
Oscar
Yes. Let me get her name, because I don't want to mess it up. It's the. She's a Brazilian actress that's also nominated in the same category. I believe it's Fernanda Torres.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, that sounds right.
Oscar
Yes. Okay. So she accused Fernanda Torres and the PR team that represents her, who's also nominated for Best Actress, of running a negative and nasty campaign against her, which is against the rules to, like, do a smear campaign against. No. Another Oscar nominee. And then a journalist, Sarah Hoggie, uncovered the series of offensive tweets that were made dating back from 2020 all the way up to, like, last year. So there was not a minority that.
Trisha Paytas
Was left, you know, like, it was last year.
Oscar
He said it was. They dated from 2020 and all the way up to, like, last year. Yeah. So it's not even, like, you can't even give benefit. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And I didn't see those.
Oscar
They're so bad. They're like. I wouldn't even want to repeat them.
Trisha Paytas
Can I, like, just look at, like, one? Do you have any of them?
Oscar
Yeah, there's, like, a list.
Trisha Paytas
Because I just want to know. I guess I don't need to know.
Oscar
But, I mean, you're gonna be God, because it's literally their bed.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, you know, God, we're.
Oscar
Well, you know, you've been in.
Trisha Paytas
I was sleeping. I have been in my own, like, world.
Moses Hackman
Yeah. Because I think. Was she the one also tweeting about Selena Gomez?
Oscar
Yes.
Moses Hackman
That's what. That's what triggered my. I was like. Cuz she tweeted about Selena Gomez, and they're in the movie together.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, I just think we need to get rid of Twitter maybe, because I think this is the. This is the ground of just all evil comes from it. You know what I mean?
Oscar
So it's just like, literally, there's.
Trisha Paytas
When I tell you what, did she have an explanation? Was she like, oh, I'm trolling. Like, what was this?
Oscar
She did issue a statement after these two viral. So how they even came out was. And it's crazy. Again, running a best actress campaign. Amelia Perez almost. Almost was the most nominated film in history. Like, it was one nomination away from becoming the most nominated film in history at the Academy Awards.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Oscar
Which is. Is crazy. So the fact that all these tweets were, like, still up is nuts. Or even obviously nuts that they happened in the first place, but nuts that you're running a campaign and no one at Netflix is like, let me look at her digital footprint, you know?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Oscar
So after that, like, statement about Fernanda Torres came out, a journalist went and just. She said that she'd, like, looked up, like, her username and just typed in a minority.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my.
Oscar
And she said they just kept coming out and out and out. So her name is Sarah. She, like, was post, like, re. Taking screenshots and posting them. And she, like, was like, I hope these get traction, because this is insane. And then, like, overnight, they ended up getting a lot of pickup. And then again, more and more just came out because people were just typing in, like, the username and a word, and it. They just. The hits kept coming.
Trisha Paytas
What the hell? I mean, was she on drugs or something? Like, that's crazy.
Oscar
It really is crazy. I mean, she issued an apology to Variety after the tweets went viral, and she said, I want to acknowledge the conversation around my. Around my past social media posts that have caused her. As someone in a marginalized community, I know this suffering all too well. And I am deeply sorry to those I have caused who I have caused pain. All my life, I have fought for a better world. I believe light will always triumph over darkness, which is like, girl, what? These tweets.
Moses Hackman
These tweets were a year against your darkness.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, girl, you're putting it out there. You're the one starting these wars. Like, oh, wait, I'm so confused. So she didn't really, like, say it.
Oscar
Was kind of a no. And then she continued on Instagram and said, I am not racist. I cannot fix my past actions. I can only say that today I am not the same person from 10 to 20 years ago. Which is again, the time stamp girl. Yeah. 2020 to 2023. 2024.
Trisha Paytas
Like, 2024 is wild. That's wild.
Oscar
And then. Then she completely delete. At first she was just deleting the tweets, but then I think that the hit. Again, the hits just kept coming. So she deactivated her whole account.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, no.
Oscar
And then she started saying. After she deactivated her account, she started saying that some of the tweets were, like, made up or fabricated. But at that point, it's like, well, can you blame anyone for thinking that they're real? Because 90 of them are. So how did you.
Trisha Paytas
I mean, it's crazy. I mean, that's. What do you say? Can't just. I mean, I don't know. That's crazy.
Oscar
It really is crazy, I think. And we talked about it last week, like, the Amelia Pres. I haven't seen a film where they fall from grace. And this was before the tweets. And now after, I'm like, damn, a new low. Like, this is kind of historic.
Trisha Paytas
Was there an apology? She said, I'm sorry in there somewhere.
Oscar
No, I mean, that was her apology.
Trisha Paytas
There was no sorry. Or was there?
Oscar
I want to acknowledge my past, but not I'm sorry. Yeah. Not like an actual.
Trisha Paytas
Like, wait, that's wild. And not even be like, I'm so, so, so sorry to, like, the communities that I, like, offended.
Oscar
And people obviously were wanting her to step down from the, like, not to rescind her nomination. And she said, I cannot step down from an Oscar nomination because I have not committed any crime, nor have I harmed anyone.
Trisha Paytas
Well, I mean, I think you did.
Oscar
I think.
Trisha Paytas
I think there's some harm.
Oscar
Cause you can't win after, like, there's no way. There literally is no way in hell. I think. I mean, it was announced that Netflix isn't going to be paying for her to, like, do, like, usually, you know, they fly them out, they handle the hotel, everything. Netflix isn't paying for it. So if she goes, it would just be her showing up, I guess.
Trisha Paytas
But a bad acknowledgment. What a bad acknowledgement of that.
Oscar
It's all bad.
Trisha Paytas
Like, she really could have just been like, to say, like, I didn't hurt anyone. Like, girl. I mean, I think there's, like, a lot you could say. I didn't commit a crime. Okay. But there's a lot of hurt.
Moses Hackman
Some hate speech is a crime. Some hate.
Oscar
True.
Trisha Paytas
That is so true. Yeah, that. That's. Oh, no. What a horrible response.
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
It just not have like a team or like a pr.
Oscar
I don't think so. And she'll never work again. I really don't think I The only. Unless she goes the full Caitlyn Jenner out, I guess, and just goes, you know, but damn, that is. It's bad. And it's so sad too, because obviously our trans brothers and sisters are going through it so hard right now. And I feel like a one light. A piece of lightness was like, okay, Carla. Sofia Gascon, making history. First trans to be nominated for best actress and then finding out she's terrible is so sad.
Trisha Paytas
I think she also just could have handled it, like, so much better. Like, I mean, I don't know, like, how you even, like, begin to apologize, but it's like, you. You have to start somewhere.
Oscar
You have to start somewhere.
Trisha Paytas
And I think a big thing, like, with, like, accountability in general is like, is taking that, like, step down because it shows at least.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, hurt people. You know what I mean?
Oscar
I don't deserve this because I think.
Trisha Paytas
At least in this moment, in this now. Right, it's like, maybe on. You can, you know, whatever. But I think that shows, like, a lot of like, okay, I did mess up on something. I'm taking the repercussions for it. You know what I mean? It's. That's, it's just a wild response. It's crazy because also, I mean, why would you want to go after all that? You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, especially talking about the.
Oscar
Oscars being too diverse. Like, yeah, that's.
Trisha Paytas
That's. That's wild. Wow. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Well, that's sad. That's just sad all around.
Oscar
Yeah, it's. I'm so. I feel bad because like, for. And also at the same time that obviously the director we talked about before has been very problematic. But then he did, like, a recent interview where he said Spanish is the language of third world countries. And I'm like, this movie, we gotta wrap it up.
Trisha Paytas
Like, we gotta wrap it up.
Oscar
I am so sorry to Zoe Zaldana because she has a great career. She does deserve an Oscar because she has. It's like almost one of the ones where maybe not this role, but her whole career. She's done very, very great work. And I. I think she is a great actress. But damn, Zoe, I don't know. I. I don't. I think we got to wrap up this film. I think we got to wrap it up. And it's. So the Oscars have to change the format too. Because usually they do, like, the big four, where, like, they have all the past, like, best actress nominees come and, like, present each, you know, person who's nominated. Yeah, they are changing that format because of Carla. Like, they don't want to. Like, they can't. It's awkward if they don't highlight her, but it obviously cannot highlight her at all. So now. Yeah, it's just a big mess. It's a big, big mess.
Trisha Paytas
So you think she's gonna go?
Oscar
Netflix said they're not paying for. If she goes. It's, like, of her own accord. And I. I feel like no one wants her. Like, no one's gonna want to see her there.
Trisha Paytas
Take a minute.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Breather.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
She should have just really resented herself before because, like, either way, it's just, like, not gonna be good and she's.
Oscar
Just not gonna win. So you should just take the L at that point. But.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, no, that's. That's. That's awful. Oh, my God.
Oscar
I know. That was a crazy story to unfold. I just can't believe there was not one minority safe. Like, queer people were added, you know, every ethnicity.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
I'm like, damn, this lady has a. A lot of hate in her heart.
Trisha Paytas
She must have. Yeah, like. Yeah, she must have had, like, a lot of. I don't know. There's like, kind of not an excuse for it because, like, people go through trauma and they don't make them racist. I don't know. There's.
Oscar
I think it's.
Trisha Paytas
I wish I would know the explanation. Like, in her mind, maybe she was. I don't know. I'm not sure what that is. It sounds like a psych. Like a psychotic break or a drug induced thing that she was doing. I don't know, like, just speculating because it's just so wild to even think it, but then also just like, put it out there like crazy. And just like, for so long, such a long time span of just constant.
Oscar
Especially in the period of, like, you know, we're like the 2020, I feel like, is a big time. Like, we're learning a lot about, you know, the different struggles of different 20s.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
And to be like, this is like, who cares about this stuff? That, like, who cares about Black Lives Matter? All that stuff is like, wait, no. Like, we're supposed to be learning. Learning unlearning, you know, then to be like, actually that.
Trisha Paytas
Like, what was she doing before this movie?
Oscar
Was she her first, like, breakout role?
Trisha Paytas
Was she tr. Was she on, like, an influencer?
Oscar
Was she trying to Know her tweets. Like, the journalist did an interview with Variety and was like, these tweets had like maybe 10 views. They had only like maybe one. Like, like they weren't getting any track. She was just tweeting it to tweet it. That's the craziest thing. That's crazy.
Trisha Paytas
Put it out in the world.
Oscar
Out in the world? Like what? Like, to have no, like, following, but to still be throwing this stuff out there is crazy. And then to like get a. A lead role in like a. A critically acclaimed movie to be at Con Film Festival and then to know that the movie is going to have this humongous multi. Like at least $100,000. No, not way more than that. Like six figure, like award campaigns. Not think, hm, clean. Maybe I should look at my tweets. Like, what?
Trisha Paytas
Oh my God. Crazy. Crazy response. Crazy. Everything that's.
Oscar
I feel bad for the people involved because, damn, like, I feel so bad for Zoe.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I meant. Yeah. The people around. Because, yeah, obviously this person's not really aware of what's wrong with the situation, which is like.
Oscar
Yeah, I think obviously, like Zoe Selena, like, they'll be fine and stuff, but still to have like this big moment be like, tainted by like the director being problematic.
Trisha Paytas
And then I was, I was gonna watch it and I was like, I don't know.
Oscar
I was really. Again, like, we talked about. I was giving. You know, the critics were saying it was great. I was like, it must be good. I'll trust them. But now I'm like, damn. Damn.
Trisha Paytas
All right, well, damn. The Oscars are gonna be interesting.
Oscar
It'll be definitely be interesting.
Trisha Paytas
Gosh. Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, I guess it did start with her talking about that girl, but what's her name?
Oscar
Fernanda Torres.
Trisha Paytas
Fernanda Torres. I mean, she really maybe just should have not even gone. Why did you even go there? Honestly, nominated. Just, just. I think at that point, just sit pretty. Just be like, here I am. Like, I don't know what is happening.
Oscar
I think she just went on the defense because people were clocking Amelia Perez.
Trisha Paytas
I don't think you need to when your movie's not needed for so many Oscars. Yeah, you won. You won exactly. Like, that's what I'm saying. Just let things happen at that point. Just like glide along the world. Yeah, that was wild. Well, you know, sometimes people just can't help themselves, I guess.
Oscar
Yeah, it's all very unfortunate.
Trisha Paytas
Hope she, I don't know, get some help, I guess. Cuz it's kind of scary to think, like, you know, that's like not hurting anyone or something. Like she, you know, it's kind of sad, but yeah, show when people are, like, hurt by it. It's like you kind of have to acknowledge that, but. All right, well, we're not seeing Amelia present. We definitely won't be crazy. Yeah. The Oscars are coming up. We're going to work that. That.
Oscar
I sure am. Yeah. Just from home, though. But we have. What is it? It's like Super Bowl, Critics Choice, SAG awards and Oscars. So we're almost through award season. Everyone hang in there. Fellow journalists. You. You're a journalist.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I will. I will be live reporting at the air as a church. Oscar Craven. Church crave will be the errors of church that day. They'll be booked and busy. We didn't even talk about. This is like, so not even hot topic anymore. I was going to talk about the big things. We didn't even talk about the look today. We were supposed to say, oh, yeah.
Oscar
My voice was going away tease today.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. And my voice started sounding like Abby Lee every episode. She's like, you girls.
Oscar
You know, like, she's just screaming, oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
So I came in and Oscar turned her. Oh, my God. I wasn't expecting the Abby Lee today. I was like, first of all, it's Wendy Williams. I have the picture. It was a Wendy Williams wig. But I'm not gonna lie. I had the same response when I looked in the mirror. I was. I just put a black T shirt on this morning. It was giving Abby Lee.
Oscar
So Abby Lee Colleen.
Trisha Paytas
It was supposed to be wedding. She has this, like, really cute wig, but I have no idea what I look like now. But then when he said Abby Lee, I was like, no, it's giving Abby Lee for sure. But then someone told me I looked like the Incredibles mom. So I was like, I'll take that.
Oscar
That's a sexier one.
Trisha Paytas
You know what I mean? Thank you. Yeah, it's giving that, too. So I was feeling it. And then I was like, I'm giving a little Abby Lee. But, yeah, that was it. That was that. Because I was. I'll insert the pictures of what it was supposed to be. The Wendy wig is giving more a blonde. She had a little more highlights, but it was, like, big and teased like this. Abby did have a bop era, but I'm gonna go with the Incredibles. Let me know at home who I look most.
Oscar
Cast your vote down below giving Abby Lee Elastigirl or Wendy Williams.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. And Oscar. Is he giving. What were your ones? Jonathan Bailey, Ted Niffsen or Oscar.
Oscar
These were mine. Yeah. Or the glasses.
Trisha Paytas
The glasses and Moses you're giving.
Moses Hackman
I'm just in a white T shirt.
Trisha Paytas
Whenever they do casting for my biopic, I've been seeing this a lot on TikTok. People would be like, this is my casting. They always put Dan Levy for you. And I've said that from the beginning.
Oscar
I definitely take Dan Levy.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And they always put that. But the people they pick. I never know the people they pick for Moses, they kind of like, never look like him either. I'm like, that's so ridden. Cause everyone else kind of looks like the people lately. They've been saying, Nicola Coughlan for me. I was like, yes, please. That would be great. But Moses, they never. I don't know who you look like. I'm trying to think now, looking at you, like, who would we put for your. Side by side. Sides.
Moses Hackman
Thank everyone. I think we were talking last time. Ben.
Trisha Paytas
Ben.
Moses Hackman
You like we had here.
Trisha Paytas
You look like Ben the guest.
Moses Hackman
No, but he. He can play younger me.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, right, right, right. Oh, Trish Crave could too. He has the same eyebrows.
Oscar
Bradley Cooper.
Trisha Paytas
What? That's wild. Really? That's wild. Okay.
Oscar
I try to think of actors. Who else?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know.
Oscar
Adrien Brody.
Trisha Paytas
I love Agent Brody, too. Those are all my hot guys.
Oscar
Yeah, who else? I'm Robert. Daniel Jr.
Trisha Paytas
I'm just literally thinking, just anybody who was.
Moses Hackman
There was a. Is it Daniel Day? Like, he's older, but Daniel Day Lewis.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah.
Moses Hackman
I guess people used to. When I was young with a bit longer hair, people used to be like.
Trisha Paytas
He looks like Lincoln. Jesus. Passion of the Christ. No, there's someone. God, who is it? Oh, there's a very niche person, but I think he looks like it. Especially when he shaves. Do you remember the guy who plays. He's like the. He's in the first Pirates of the Caribbean.
Oscar
God.
Trisha Paytas
What is his name? He was the. He was the director in Smash. Are you looking at Pirates of the Caribbean cast?
Oscar
I look at Smash.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, his name's Derek on Smash.
Oscar
Oh, Derek. Oh, Jack Davenport.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, Jack Davenport. Look at that. I think that looks like Moses. Especially when Moses shaves.
Oscar
I kind of see that.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, yeah. I think that's okay. That's your look like. Okay, so we'll pick.
Oscar
Oh, yeah, I do see that.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, so put next to Moses. Okay. Does he look like.
Oscar
Right, that kind of. Yeah, yeah, I see it.
Trisha Paytas
I think that looks just like him.
Oscar
He's like, white. White you.
Trisha Paytas
It's the Caucasian version.
Moses Hackman
You showed me something. Yeah, like. Yeah, maybe the upper part.
Oscar
He might get canceled if he plays Moses, though.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, right, right. Oh, right. Okay.
Oscar
But fitting for your.
Moses Hackman
I'll give him a waiver.
Trisha Paytas
Adrian. Okay, so put Adrian Brody, Jack Davenport, or Moses. This. And I love all them. I think they're all hot. So cast your votes. Who we look like today? I'm. You guys are better. At least I have Abby Lee next to me, so at least you guys got some handsome ones.
Moses Hackman
Mom from the Incredible.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, I'll take that one. Thank you. That one sounds sexier. All right, sorry. How did, like, get that out there?
Oscar
I know. I can't believe we forgot that.
Trisha Paytas
I know. It was very important. I was thinking about it. I was like, wait, That's a pretty important hot topic.
Moses Hackman
This is smaller for the Grammy because we moved for it. If you. If. If Jimmy takes. So Julia Fox went to the Grammys and he take Bianca. Sensory. And you censor her outfit. They have the same outfit.
Trisha Paytas
What? Who? What? I don't even know what you're talking about.
Oscar
So let me see what Julia Fox wore.
Trisha Paytas
I didn't know she was at the Grammys.
Oscar
I think she was. I remember seeing her there.
Trisha Paytas
So they wore the same thing, is what you're saying.
Moses Hackman
They have the same outfit. If Bianca was censored.
Oscar
I see. Okay. It was sheer, like, see through. But she had, like, a bra and panties.
Moses Hackman
She's just like a. You know, when you censor, you have, like a block of black.
Trisha Paytas
No, that's very different. What? She's wearing, like, all black. She has, like, a black bra. Blackfish. She has, like, a black over thing, too. Bianca had, like, a nude overlay.
Oscar
Oh, that's true. That overlay makes a big difference.
Moses Hackman
They both have basically just a sheer.
Trisha Paytas
But if it's a black sheer, there's more coverage. I knew hers was, like, see through. There was not.
Moses Hackman
They're both. I mean, they're both see through sheer.
Trisha Paytas
That's wild. That might be your worst take, baby. Show them. Is this the outfit you're looking at? Look at that. That's so different.
Oscar
This one.
Moses Hackman
Well, there's pictures of her without the jacket. It's the same thing. Just she's censored and she's not.
Trisha Paytas
It's definitely the censorship, though, is big. I want the color. The black instead of a nude is a big difference. That's a wild.
Oscar
I. I read an article today that was like, oh, would Bianca faced, like, legal? Like, is it A crime that she like pretty much was like indecent exposure. And then I guess cuz the Grammys is a private event and that someone would have to like file a complaint and no one filed the complaint. But you would think because there literally was children there. So there's like that's.
Trisha Paytas
That's the only problem I have too because I actually felt like Holly like defending her and I like. I kind of get that point. Cuz it is like okay, it's just the human body. But yeah, I mean there's like kids like that's a decent exposure at that point. You're like flashing people without their consent, you know.
Oscar
And it wasn't like like eluded nudity.
Trisha Paytas
It was like literally nudity. Yeah, no, I, I really do hate it. I don't. I'm like talking about them because I think they're just like so into like attention and like whatever. Don't like it. I saw Tana did her. She's like my Bianca, whatever her last name era. Cuz she also did it. She had like a see through but again censored.
Oscar
Yeah. Like pasties and like underwear. Even if it's like nude underwear, like you know that counts.
Trisha Paytas
No, hers. You saw literally everything.
Oscar
Everything. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And it's just like not shocking or cute. It's just like. It's just a lot and it's like attention. And I know people are like oh Connie's, we can't do it. But she seems pretty like complicit like consenting to it, you know at this point.
Oscar
Yeah, it's been going on for a long time.
Trisha Paytas
So yeah, they're. It's just. It's. It's like gross. It's like whatever. It's like I hate it.
Oscar
I did remind me of one more quick Grammy hot topic and then this one I am excited to get your take on because it involves spaghetti. So I think this is it kind of is up your alley. But at Charlie XCX's Grammy like after party, it really was like an after dinner. But Gabriette, who's Maddie Healey's fiance and like friends with Charlie, there's a viral video of her where they're eating like a plate of spaghetti and then she puts her hand in the spaghetti, grabs it.
Trisha Paytas
I did see that. Who grabbed it?
Oscar
Gabriette.
Trisha Paytas
The fiance of Maddie Healy?
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
And whose party thing was it?
Oscar
Charlie XCX's.
Trisha Paytas
Was Charlie XX at the table?
Oscar
I think so. And Lord was also at the table.
Trisha Paytas
Disgusting.
Oscar
Me too. I hate it. And I like them. I Love Charlie. I love Gabrielle. I love Lord.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I don't really know any of them, and I just. I hate it so much. Like you, because I even think about me, like, in my own. In my own home, like, you know what I mean? I don't know if I would just.
Oscar
No.
Trisha Paytas
Like, drunk or something. Maybe you're just like, what is the point where they gotta eat it? Are they hungry?
Oscar
No, it was like. And it was piping hot, too. Like, it was steamy. So then you're making a mess. Or your hair. It felt comfortable for her hair, and.
Trisha Paytas
I want to eat it. Like, don't waste good spaghetti.
Oscar
Yeah, I looked good, to be honest.
Trisha Paytas
I know I did see that. I didn't know what was happening. I didn't know who was involved, but I'm like, why is it happening? Why is something filming it? It feels very. It's probably not, like, the biggest deal in the world, but it is annoying. I would be pissed. I'd be like, ew. Get your. That's like, my biggest pet peeve is people just, like, grabbing food and just, like, being gross. Like, that's food I was gonna eat.
Oscar
Yeah, I hate that.
Trisha Paytas
I hate it so much.
Oscar
Me, too. And then also, I'm thinking, okay, you're at a restaurant, and who has to clean it out? Like, the waste app.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God, that's so true.
Oscar
Yeah. So it's just like, you're making a mess and you're ruining the food. No one can eat it now because you've got your grubby hand in the pasta.
Trisha Paytas
Like, it gives me, like, back in the day when people would, like, burn, like, Birkins for photo shoots and stuff just to be, like, obnoxious. To be like, oh, I. Look what I can do. Because they're, like, filming it, too. It's like, I don't know.
Oscar
She's so crazy. She's grabbing the pasta with her hand. I'm like, gabriella, come on. This is a classy part. I know that. Cool. The party girls. I like the performance, you know? You want to guess? Color my underwear. It's fierce. Quinn Blackwell dancing.
Trisha Paytas
Love it, love it, love it.
Oscar
Yeah. But I'm like, okay, the pasta grab.
Trisha Paytas
Let's leave the pasta alone. We want to eat it.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I don't want your dirty finger as.
Oscar
In there no matter what.
Trisha Paytas
Like, you touching this, me touching this. It's just dirty. Like, yeah, if you didn't just. Maybe she just washed her hands. I guess if she gave the benefit of the doubt. But even so, I don't know if people, you know, you touch the door coming out or something. You know, it's like I felt bad.
Moses Hackman
For the person that had to. Cuz you like, how do you even approach it?
Oscar
How do you.
Trisha Paytas
So I was eating it.
Moses Hackman
Yeah. She held the pasta and she put it in somebody's mouth. Mouth. And I felt bad for that person because he's like, oh, I'm on camera. I better be cool right now and eat it.
Trisha Paytas
Was it. Oh, who was it? Was it.
Oscar
It was her. Charlie. Social media guy. Yeah. He's kind of. He's public facing. So I can kind of.
Moses Hackman
But unless it's like your partner, like you have an intimate relationship with somebody.
Oscar
I'm like, even that. Grab me. No. I'm like, no. What are you crazy? Put your hand out.
Moses Hackman
That's.
Trisha Paytas
That's my. No. Yeah. Biggest pet peeve is like that, like putting. I don't know. I don't.
Moses Hackman
And like you can't really. It's not like somebody's holding an object that you can just buy it off.
Trisha Paytas
It's like pasta. Should we recreate it? Let's try it. We'll order some pasta today. I'm gonna put it in your mouth. No, you put it in my mouth.
Moses Hackman
No.
Trisha Paytas
I guess in theory it kind of sounds fun when I think about it that way. Maybe not at a party.
Oscar
I was. When you mentioned like if it's something that you could easily share, I was like, okay. I'm trying to think of like the Truro scene from Challengers. I was like, okay.
Trisha Paytas
Oh yeah.
Oscar
If Mike fights and Josh O'Connor are like doing it with spaghetti, would that be hot?
Trisha Paytas
Maybe Mike Ice could stuff spaghetti in my mouth any day. He could do it with his feet. I changed my mind completely. Then that would be. That would be hot.
Oscar
But would it be like I'm doing. Would it. Would you be okay if it was in public at a restaurant or would.
Trisha Paytas
It be my place? Yeah. Barefoot. He could put it in my face. I would make sure everyone's filming every angle of that. There's certain people that just don't, you know, that just can do it. It.
Oscar
I can.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
I think. I don't know. Even out of. It could be Ted Nivison. But if it's at Maggiano's and he's grabbing a hand of pasta, I'm like, ted, no, not here.
Trisha Paytas
You wouldn't think that's cute? I think that's cute. I think it's kind of cute.
Oscar
Not in public.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I'm Saying when I think about mo doing, I'm like, wait. It's kind of cute actually. Like, if you ordered a pot of like a fetish and just like put in my face, I think it's kind of cute. Well, let's recreate it.
Oscar
I love that you flipped on it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I actually kind of like it. Not because we're not in public. That's cute. People would get it. Are people mad about it? Like, why piss people off? Or it would be cute. Cute.
Oscar
I think if you do it. Yeah. I think if you did it at a restaurant, people would be mad. But I think if you did it here and with Moses Bolognese, I feel like it'd be camp.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Bolognese is wild to me to see me, like some butter noodles or something.
Oscar
That's cute too. That's kind of your brand.
Trisha Paytas
Meat is crazy too.
Oscar
People are mad mostly cuz it's in public. And then it's like, you know, thinking of the weight staff and people are upset.
Trisha Paytas
The weight staff for sure. I saw a tik tok of like, people who clean after each movie. And people like, monsters. They're monsters. They're like. Are they feeding the seeds? Popcorn? Like, why is there so much, like, she was like, sweeping it. It's like. I will say I feel very proud of myself every time I go to a movie. I always bring a chest.
Oscar
Me too.
Trisha Paytas
I always.
Oscar
Even a drink. Like, it doesn't matter always.
Trisha Paytas
Cause it's literally on your way out. Like, it's the craziest thing to me that people just like, leave stuff or also just like, throw out. And they're like. I mean, damn. Like animals, some people. It is wild. So. All right. I'm actually going to do the hot take inside with Gabriette. Yes. Maybe if it wasn't in public, but maybe it was also a private party and they just ordered another pasta for everybody. Maybe the person has a fetish being fed. Maybe he couldn't feed himself. We don't know.
Oscar
Reach out for a stand.
Trisha Paytas
Now we're being aimless. We were just like, okay, yeah, so, yeah, we need more information.
Oscar
Yeah, we. Harry Daniels put us in a group text with that guy once, so maybe we should just text him one day. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
With who?
Oscar
That guy that Gabriette was feeding. Shout out, Harry.
Trisha Paytas
Harry. Daniel's everywhere. He was at Marc Jacobs the night of my show. I was invited to Marc Jacobs, the fashion show. And I couldn't go. And it was the night of my show. I was invited to the Grammys. The Marc Jacobs Thing I was like, I just kind of go down.
Oscar
I was like the man diva.
Trisha Paytas
I know. I kind of was. And then the next day, I was just. We went to Benihana the next day actually and was like, I know where I want to take you. As square. Yeah, he's at Bunyana. I was like. Because I didn't get to go at all when I was in New York. It was my favorite restaurant in New York, and it was. I didn't even get to go, but such is life. What a Hot topics this is. Today we are smoking through all the beads. Your pants, where are they from? Are they Wild Fox?
Oscar
They're from Boys Lie. They actually sent them to me.
Trisha Paytas
What's it say? Let love guide me.
Oscar
Let love guide me.
Trisha Paytas
My way.
Oscar
My way. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
So cute.
Oscar
I never heard them before until Oscar.
Trisha Paytas
Has ugg slippers with gray slack. You look so close. Actually, you both have ugg slippers with gray slacks on today.
Oscar
Oh, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Matching. You look so cozy. I couldn't be more jealous.
Oscar
It's rainy today too, so I didn't know that.
Trisha Paytas
I'm staying inside today.
Oscar
It's good vibes today.
Trisha Paytas
I love it.
Oscar
I was kind of gagged. Jojo Siba is back to faking her pregnancy, and I was one. And I know you were on the Jojo Siwa bandwagon again.
Trisha Paytas
You're trying to get me on the hate train.
Moses Hackman
Is it Snapchat again?
Oscar
Yeah, Snapchat again.
Trisha Paytas
What is with that?
Oscar
Yeah, and I'm sure it's probably the same bit of, like, buying, like, school, like, she's gonna donate the school supplies or something, but yeah, she is buying a lot of stuff, and. But I think it's a little bit weirder now too, because she knows that she got backlash for she apologized for it. But then she also talks a lot about having kids. So now to be doing that again with also the knowledge of, you have your baby named. You want to be a mom. I don't know. I feel like doing it again after.
Trisha Paytas
Is like, so what is she doing? Just taking pictures and, like, people have to skip to the end to go see it. Yeah.
Oscar
And it's like the, like, kids supplies and stuff, too. And she's like, oh, I'm so excited. So.
Trisha Paytas
Well, I'm so confused, though. So she's, like, buying kids supplies for her baby.
Oscar
She's making it. Last time she did it, she donated all the supplies. Like, if she was buying, like, diapers and, like, baby supplies, but she was doing it for chair, like, to donate them.
Trisha Paytas
Not School supplies. Baby supplies.
Oscar
It was a mix. It was like baby supply. School supplies.
Trisha Paytas
So she's holding up like diapers.
Oscar
Yeah, that was. So she got in backlash for it last time.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. Okay, but why does she have to be pregnant to do it? Why doesn't she just hold it up and be like.
Oscar
I guess to get people to click on her Snapchat and it's her belly.
Trisha Paytas
Out, out.
Oscar
No, no, no. Belly, not out or anything. It's not like she's wearing a belly or anything. But she's, she eludes. She is buying a whole bunch of stuff and alluding to the fact that maybe she's pregnant basically. Oh, let me, let me try to find the photo.
Trisha Paytas
Too bad. I thought she's like sticking her bali out being like, here's my phases before.
Moses Hackman
You get to the diapers. You know, like if she was getting a pregnancy test or if she was getting.
Trisha Paytas
Right, right, right.
Moses Hackman
It's kind of an odd way to announce a baby.
Trisha Paytas
I don't hate it. I'm not.
Oscar
Oh, yeah, and this one, it's. She's doing the. She's holding up onesies and baby clothes and she's saying, I'm so happy.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I don't think that's that bad. Maybe it's the rose colored glasses from being on Broadway. I don't know. I thought, okay, like, it's so different to be like, oh, am I pregnant? Like, taking the test? Like, I might be pregnant. There was a tiktoker who did that a lot. Be like, I'm so scared. Like, what, what's it say? Like, that kind of stuff. But I mean, that's just more like she could be buying it for anyone. Baby shower, donating. Like, I don't know, maybe she just loves buying baby clothes. I loved buying baby clothes before I had a baby. Like, I loved it even when I was like 24. I used to go to Target, like, buy baby clothes. I just like loved it so much. I don't know if I was posting about it, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. Yeah, to me, that doesn't look like pregnant baiting. I wouldn't get that at all. When I saw that, I was just.
Oscar
Like, oh, yeah, okay, that's fair. Okay, okay. I was like, well, I think because she has the track record of doing it. So I was like, oh, what's that mean?
Trisha Paytas
So like before she did have her body out, right?
Oscar
No, but she was like really going in on, like she was playing it up like oh. At first she said I was just posting, like, baby supplies and school supplies, that people were, like, asking. And then she trolled and she played into it, and then she. It was like weeks of her pretending to be pregnant, like, buying stuff, posting, like, baby stuff, and acting like she was going to have a baby. Have a baby. Yeah. But it was definitely premeditated the last time she did it. Like, she knew. Knew what she was doing because people were asking, and then she kept doing it, you know?
Trisha Paytas
So, yeah, it's definitely gross to troll.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Pregnancy. I can't fault someone who's young trolling, I guess. But, yeah. Ick. But to do it again. Yeah, it's kind of weird. To me, that was not that bad. And I do think if she does really want to have kids, I mean, in a way, I was kind of like that. But, yeah, I don't know. I could see the ick from it. But overall, maybe she's just manifesting. Maybe she really. Maybe she is gonna have a baby. You know, who knows?
Oscar
That's true. The three. She doesn't have a new girlfriend now. Maybe she's gonna be settling down.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I feel like this is the era of, like, just people, like, having babies. I mean, I guess people are always having babies. I guess that's the era of life. But it does seem like, you know, there's like, oh, this person welcomed a baby and just, you know, and it's. It's cool because, like, with surrogacy now, you just have all. Some people just have babies and you're like, oh, that's.
Oscar
I know.
Trisha Paytas
That's what I'm saying.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Surrogate.
Moses Hackman
You know, that's true of them at once.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. So Teddy coming through.
Oscar
Magnificent name vibes. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Well, one of them has to be a girlshed. Freddie needs to be a girl. Girl.
Oscar
I kind of like Freddy for a girl.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I love it. So maybe. Maybe we're just. Maybe she's having a baby, she's happy. Who knows? And then it's like clickbaiting and whatever. But I don't know. I wasn't too mad about it.
Oscar
Okay, team.
Trisha Paytas
And, you know, I could. I could go in on JoJo.
Oscar
And then she went on Colleen Ballinger's podcast. And that was the other last week. So it was a podcast, I guess.
Trisha Paytas
So which one? The one with her husband.
Oscar
I think it was with Rachel Ballinger, her sister. Things I. The thumbnail I saw was JoJo in the middle, and I think it was Rachel. And I definitely identified Colleen, but I don't know, I think the other one.
Trisha Paytas
Was Rachel is like, a new podcast. Wait, you don't know any of the background?
Oscar
It's like she saw the thumbnail should. I guess you're right. I'll do my. I'll do my journalist context. I'll do my journal. Because people were like. That someone said to me is like, tell Trisha JoJo hasn't changed. And it was just the screenshot.
Trisha Paytas
But I mean, yeah, that part is always gonna be a little weird. I try not to. Okay, I have no comment on it.
Oscar
I have no comment.
Trisha Paytas
You know, Wow. I feel for JoJo. I do think she's been a little traumatized in her life, and maybe she hasn't realized it, but. Okay. She's still in her little haze, maybe.
Oscar
Sorry, I just looked it up, and the title is podcasting with JoJo and my new Squirrel Hobby and My New Squirrel Hobby from Colleen Vlogs.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, well, you know, I. I guess. I guess she's got to be doing something, you know? I don't know.
Oscar
I know she collects rocks, and I guess now she collects squirrels.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, wow. Wow.
Moses Hackman
She's going love is love. Idubbbz route. He had a squirrel.
Trisha Paytas
Wow.
Moses Hackman
For a while.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Idubbbz lore over there.
Moses Hackman
I mean, wait, stop making videos. You just started attending to squirrels.
Trisha Paytas
I wonder what that means when you.
Moses Hackman
Start, like, start appreciating nature around you.
Trisha Paytas
Maybe, I guess that's good.
Moses Hackman
You give up on humanity and you start.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I mean, squirrels seem innocent enough. Yeah. I guess it's better than, like.
Oscar
Than what?
Trisha Paytas
I was gonna say something, but I.
Oscar
I love your Love and Light era.
Trisha Paytas
I know. I'm in my Love and Light. It's been all goodness, and I just, you know, just talk to the squirrels. Leave children alone, you know?
Oscar
I love it. Love it. With this Abby Miller cosplay. It's kind of sweet.
Trisha Paytas
Abby Miller cosplay. Talking about JoJo makes me do wa. JoJo, have you learned nothing? That is. The voice is there too. Oh, my God. We were all rooting for you.
Oscar
Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
Wow.
Oscar
The positivity today was truly. It was truly a blessing.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I tried to achieve it. Good. And Jojo, I think, has, you know. Yeah. But that kind of proves the point that we always talk about is, like, you know, you meet someone very young, and you, like, look up to them at a certain age. You're kind of blinded by their. You know, by reality. You know what I mean? It's like, so I think she's just in her bubble from being 13 years old and looking up to this person and still owing loyalty to them. And we all want everyone to change. And hopefully there's been some growth in Ms. Colleen Ballinger, some accountability and reflection that we haven't seen yet. And maybe, maybe one day we will. Maybe the squirrels are helping her, giving her some talking to. Giving him some clarity. She got out of the group chats and into the real world. And you know, that's true.
Oscar
Like, she is touching grass as they.
Trisha Paytas
She's literally touching grass. So it has to start somewhere.
Oscar
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And I would love to see some growth and maybe a little space between that friendship. Would it be healthy to start? But other than that, we love.
Oscar
We love.
Trisha Paytas
We need someone to start. Same thing with Carla. Her name.
Oscar
Carla Sophia Garn.
Trisha Paytas
There needs to be a starting point that she hasn't, like, been at yet, but it needs to start somewhere.
Oscar
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
You know, and it's a hard step to take, and it can be embarrassing and humiliating. I would know. And it's just like, you got to just. You got to start somewhere.
Oscar
You got to start somewhere. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. So we. I think we want everyone to grow as human beings.
Oscar
Oh, yes, for sure.
Trisha Paytas
Society wants people to change and be better. We don't want the devil amongst us to stay the devil amongst us.
Oscar
We want. Want rehabilitation.
Trisha Paytas
Rehabilitation. Yeah. And maybe they have gotten it. Sounds like it to me. I dubs. He. He apologized to Tana. Sounds like a different person. So maybe the squirrels are the magic. The magic that we're all missing. Gosh, Jojo. Wow. It's hard to defend her sometimes, but.
Oscar
You know, you try. I appreciate your effort. I do appreciate your effort.
Trisha Paytas
Dress as Abby Lee. Abby Lee's someone I may never be able to defend, but I hope her well, too. She didn't deserve cancer, you know what I mean? I gotta go. I don't know if anyone deserves. Okay, we'll wrap it up. I don't not know, you guys. This has been a week of growth, of dreams coming true. There's so much more to be done in 2025. May the world heal God. We really do need to heal the world right now. Make it a better place. Heal the world for you and for me and the entire human race. Next line.
Oscar
Heal it.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, next line after that.
Oscar
Wait, is this an original?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Oscar
Oh, okay.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, okay, okay.
Oscar
Look out for each other, especially the queers.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I love the 2025 we're bringing out. Yeah. Make a better place for you and for me. Heal the world we live in. Save it for our children.
Oscar
Heal the world. We live in. Wait, hold on. It's coming to me. Don't let this be the end.
Trisha Paytas
Ooh. Okay. Moses finished us off after that.
Moses Hackman
And don't forget Ted's birthday.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, wow.
Oscar
We love you, Ted N. You're always my YouTube crush. I hope I get to play basketball with you someday. I hope 27 is a good year for you. Come back to just Trish. I miss you.
Trisha Paytas
Yay.
Oscar
Period.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Period. You guys. Follow us on Patreon.com Gestures we're gonna do an extended podcast for you right now.
Oscar
And we got a lot in there.
Trisha Paytas
Actually, we have a lot. Subscribe for our bonus tier. We're about to order every single wingstop on the menu and talk Super Bowl. And we love you and thank you for the support. Thank you for the love in the new set.
Moses Hackman
Because the set actually looks like you guys are gonna be like, oh, we.
Trisha Paytas
Gotta do the reveal.
Moses Hackman
It looks like you guys are at the super bowl broadcasting.
Trisha Paytas
We need our headsets. That's what we need for sure. All right, you got one? Yes. Perfect.
Oscar
Those are fierce.
Trisha Paytas
They don't work, but do they work? Okay. All right. We love you guys. Happy Chinese New Year. The snakes are taking over. And live, laugh, love, period. Bye.
Podcast Episode Summary: "Trisha's Broadway Show DISASTER & Issuing a Much Needed Apology"
Podcast Information:
00:00 – 04:08
Trisha Paytas opens the episode with enthusiasm, expressing how much she and her co-host Oscar Gracey have missed their regular "Hot Topic Monday." She announces significant updates to her "Eras of Trish" tour, expanding from 28 to 35 cities due to overwhelming demand. Notable additions include:
Trisha highlights performing at iconic venues like Radio City Music Hall and the Greek Theater in LA. She shares excitement about collaborating with Hollywood stars and mentions exclusive merchandise tailored for these special tour dates.
Notable Quote:
04:09 – 12:51
Trisha delves into her Broadway debut at the St. James Theater, describing it as both exhilarating and challenging. She recounts falling ill with what was initially suspected to be a bout of food poisoning, which severely affected her ability to rehearse and perform. Despite losing her voice, Trisha emphasizes her determination to not cancel the show, especially since it was a benefit for the Entertainment Community Fund.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
12:52 – 35:07
Trisha shares heartfelt interactions with renowned Broadway figures, including Sutton Foster, Ben Platt, Rachel Zegler, and Joy from Gypsy. She reflects on the surreal experience of performing alongside such esteemed artists and the support she received from them despite her challenges.
Key Moments:
Sutton Foster:
Ben Platt:
Rachel Zegler:
Joy from Gypsy:
Notable Quote:
35:08 – 50:08
Trisha and Oscar discuss the logistics behind the Broadway show, including wardrobe challenges and the rapid setup required to accommodate additional performances. Trisha mentions the lack of a prepared outfit upon arrival, leading to last-minute adjustments with Fashion Nova apparel and Amazon purchases.
Key Points:
Wardrobe Issues:
Technical Hurdles:
Emotional Toll:
Notable Quote:
50:09 – 64:36
Looking ahead, Trisha discusses potential future projects, including a possible Las Vegas residency, Broadway performances, and even a talk show. She emphasizes her commitment to her fanbase and the importance of their support in her endeavors.
Key Points:
Upcoming Projects:
Tour Success:
Personal Preparations:
Notable Quote:
64:37 – 85:00
Trisha and Oscar highlight the importance of their Patreon community, offering exclusive content and perks to their supporters. They discuss the new Patreon set, bonus videos, and special content like reacting to Super Bowl halftime shows and engaging in exclusive Q&A sessions.
Key Points:
Exclusive Content:
Merchandise:
Fan Interaction:
Notable Quote:
85:01 – 100:00
The conversation shifts to various pop culture phenomena, including discussions about emerging artists like Gracie Abrams and Benson Boone, critiques of award show performances, and the impact of social media on celebrity interactions.
Key Topics:
Emerging Artists:
Award Shows:
Social Media Trends:
Notable Quotes:
100:01 – End
In the closing segments, Trisha and Oscar reflect on the importance of community support, personal growth, and the ongoing journey of navigating fame and personal challenges. They encourage listeners to continue supporting them through Patreon and express gratitude for their loyal fanbase.
Key Points:
Gratitude:
Encouragement:
Notable Quote:
Throughout the episode, several quotes encapsulate the key themes and sentiments expressed by Trisha and Oscar:
This episode of "Just Trish" offers an intimate look into Trisha Paytas's journey through her Broadway debut amidst personal health challenges, showcasing her resilience and determination. Coupled with updates on her expansive tour, interactions with Broadway luminaries, and engaging discussions on current pop culture trends, Trisha and Oscar provide listeners with a rich and multifaceted narrative. Their genuine reflections and heartfelt gratitude underscore the importance of community support in navigating the complexities of fame and personal growth.
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