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Foreign. Rolling, rolling, rolling.
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What's up, everyone? Welcome back to karma and chaos. Good morning, good evening, good day, good night. Coming at you live from Dover, Delaware. We are back at it.
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Chugging right along.
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We are back at it. Hail, reaper.
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Hail Reaper. Boundaries. Be bitter, all. 2026 only brought two Karma cast, so.
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I'm wearing my red Rising T shirt.
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I love that for you.
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Thank you.
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We're gonna play a little game in a little bit called are you smarter than a fifth grader? We're gonna play that for the second half of this episode and I'm really excited because we haven't done that for, like, a year.
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We haven't done in a while. I get this shirt is off Tick Tock Shop. I buy so much stuff off Tick Tock Shop. I'm, like, such a sucker.
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Same. I really do wonder how things are going to change because it was bought by Americans. Like, I truly don't understand what direction it's going to go in, but, like, I don't care. I'll be curious to see what happens next.
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Do you think that this, like, structure will change or just the ownership?
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I think ownership, structure, payment, everything will change.
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Interesting. All of it.
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The algorithm, they're gonna censor us more.
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Oh, yeah, for sure. There's been a couple creators that are saying in what ways will be censored. A lot of it is political.
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Yeah.
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But we're living in the regime, so I think that that's interesting. But also just like creator culture, influencer culture, I think is going to shift a lot. And I think that we're going to see a lot of influencers who are, like, were, like, balling out from Tik Tok money.
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Yeah.
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Because what's interesting about it is that I think that a lot Tick Tock creators who are. Who make thousands and millions of dollars off Tick Tock. Are changing their lifestyles to meet that. And then now the structure and the payments and the views are changing. And I don't prey on anyone's downfall because I. I really just. I don't want that for them. I don't want that for me, but I think that that's going to catch up with them a little bit. And so I'll be curious to see what direction Tick Tock goes in.
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I think. I think YouTube's probably going to come back a lot.
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It's been coming back big time.
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So I think people keep telling me that I need to do YouTube stuff.
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I'm gonna start.
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I do, like, a family channel.
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I also find it interesting if Tick tock. Or if YouTube is back on the rise, which it is. Some of the creators from Tick Tock who are making millions of dollars there, but can't do long form.
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Yeah.
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Not everybody's hard. It's so hard.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's even hard for me. And I've been in this. I started with long form, I never started with short form.
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Yeah.
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So we'll. I'll.
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It'll be interesting.
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Yeah.
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We're here for the ride.
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I'm here.
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The last thing I bought off Tick Tock was what?
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I can't wait to hear what the last thing kale bought off TikTok was.
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Last two things. Let's do. Last two things I bought off TikTok. One was a baby piano for Bex because he loves playing the piano. And this one, like, actually looks like a piano. Two, it was a heated rival desk camera for Beck's donor because he always posts about. He did rivalry on his Instagram. So I just shipped it to him. Can't wait for him to get it.
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First of all, I have nine things in my cart.
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Okay.
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I just kind of, like, let them sit for a little bit and then I'll go back and see if I still want it.
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Never done that.
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That's, like, new for me. And it come. It ebbs and flows. Like, sometimes I do it and sometimes I don't.
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Currently she's over there going, she has to.
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Two different versions of the same light ring light. Not sure why I have that. A pair of pants. Rechargeable photography light. No idea why I have that. A vacuum magnetic suction phone mount. Don't know why I have that. The new 1080 multi function sun visor phone holder for content. Haas Labs Blush House. House Labs Blush, Star Trackle dual access something for my phone for creation. And then a notebook. Wait, wait, those are all the things in my cart.
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Kayl, when we came to your house and cleaned out your office and your closet because some reason you have every single thing that you just listed in your cart is literally in your office closet.
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Or it's here. No, I'm gonna sell that.
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What are you selling?
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I'm gonna sell all my GoPros.
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No, I'm talking about lights. Like, all of those things you own.
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But is it, like, travel maybe what I want to be able to, like, move around. So what I have. My last two purchases that I physically checked out were an Apple watch band, which was delivered on January 2, and then a mood board book, which was also delivered on January 2nd for me and the kids. To do vision boards.
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Yeah.
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So those were my last two purchases off Tik Tok Shop, which I feel like are both pretty good. But, like, all the stuff that's currently in my court, in my court, in my cart. Not great.
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No, the funny you say gopro. I just cleaned out my office and got rid of so much stuff because I moved my office above the garage. I threw away the GoPro that you gave me 12 years ago that MTV gave you. It was broke. It's, like, dead.
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I could have sold it.
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No, no. I like, it doesn't. It doesn't work. It's really old. Okay, but you. But isn't that funny?
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That's really funny. I have, like, five GoPros. They don't. The older models that I have, I don't have any newer ones. They don't last very long. And then, like, I think the quality just gets better and better over years. Like, so I think those are all, like, five years old and probably just need to be sold.
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Hold on one second.
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I heard that. What'd she. What did you say?
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I said, let me just tell Leah I love her.
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Okay? I just hear you whispering.
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Hold on.
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Let me just tell Leah I love her.
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I didn't want her to. She just sent me. I didn't. I. Yeah, well, I texted. I texted. I texted Leah to see how she was doing. And, like, it's so funny because I feel like Leah typically doesn't have full days with Bex by herself, but, like, I do because, like, she'll work weekends, like, full weekends, so I'm with him all day. She leaves before he wakes up, and, like, maybe gets home just for bedtime. So I'm, like, thinking. I'm like, oh, gosh. Like, she has them all, like, by her. Not that she's incapable, but I'm like, oh, is she okay? And then I said, hope you're having a good day. She said, we. We have the cutest, best boy in the whole world. He's been so good. We're on our way home now.
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I love that.
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And look at him.
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Sweetest boy. The cutest baby.
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Look how cute he is.
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He's so cute.
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He really is. So cute. So cute.
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He's such a little nugget. I can't wait for Matt to get that desktop calendar.
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The red rising one.
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Or the heated rival. Why have so hard time saying that?
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I was thinking.
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I have so hard time saying that. Okay, are you my father? 5 year old right now?
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Speaking of when I was a child. So I was just thinking about it.
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When I.
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When I was a kid, I grew up in, like, where you played outside, obviously, a lot of us did, but we used to walk the railroad tracks and we used to bring pixie sticks with us, and we would cut them and fill them with leaves and smoke.
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Them and love that.
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And I was just thinking about, wow, such core memories of mine are just.
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Like smoking and doing drugs.
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Just doing the stupidest.
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Like, my mom beat my ass for that when I was a kid, picking up her old cigarette butts and smoking them.
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Well, I was smoking leaves.
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Like, I didn't even light the cigarette butts. You know what I mean? Did you light the leaves?
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No.
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How old were you? I was seven.
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How. I was probably. I was probably like 10 or 11.
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They say lead by example. We learned it from somewhere, for sure.
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My parents smoked when I was a kid. I used to hide their cigarettes.
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Same. I used to, like, lock myself in the bathroom with my moms and threaten to flush them down the toilet and she would, like, bang the door down. It's like, this is five bucks. Like, if I flush this. Give me a break.
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Yeah. You know, I do know.
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But she was, like, ready to kill me for them, you know, Like a cigarette.
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Like a fiend.
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A cigarette.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Someone asked me recently if I've reached out to my mom, and I was like, no, because you say it on.
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This podcast all the time.
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It was like, an older lady. I like, no.
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She probably listens to your podcast.
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I don't know if she knows how to do that.
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I need to ask the studio or the listeners if you live on a highway. Like, if you live on a. Directly on a highway. Did you make that choice, like, thinking it would be fine or like, is it fine when I drive here? Like, I. I come here on the highway and there's so many houses, and I'm like, how do you live on a highway?
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When I was. When my mom went to rehab, when I was in ninth grade there, we lived in, like a half a double. Is that what they're called? Like a duplex? Yeah, whatever. It's like two houses connected.
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Yeah.
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And she left and that. I ended up living with the neighbor, like, on the other side. It was just two. There was, like, not a row of them. It was literally just two. It was so weird. And it was right next to a highway.
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Yeah.
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Like, I'm talking, like, on a background noise. Like, you didn't need a sound machine because it was the highway.
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Yeah.
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It never bothered me. My guess, and I don't know this for sure was. Probably because the rent was cheaper.
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Well, yeah, but. But on the way here, it's like million dollar houses on the highway.
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There's one wreath. Witherspoon. Wreath's Witherspoons. Old one.
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Well, like, that's barely a highway.
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No, that's a highway. And the way that one, it doesn't have a pool, and two, it's off the side of the highway. Like that. Like, I. It just feels weird. Millions of dollars for that.
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Like, does the highway. If you live on a highway, does the highway sound bother you? I understand, like, for, like, cost. Like, cheaper cost. Yeah, but, like, I see really nice houses, and I'm like, you have that money to buy that house, and you bought it on a highway. That's what I think.
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Yeah.
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So if you. If you live on a highway, I just need to know why.
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Yeah, technically, the house that I live in now, if it was a choice, is off the highway. Technically, that road that you come down is.
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Technically, you don't live on a.
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No, I don't consider it a highway. But, like, I know what you're talking about versus where I live. But. I am a huge skims fan. And before skims, underwear was always an afterthought for me.
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I regularly don't wear it, but now.
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That I'm obsessed with skims, I can.
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Can we back up a couple seconds?
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Sure.
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Who were your neighbors that you lived with when your mom went to rehab?
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The mom's name was Robin and the dad's name was Dave.
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Were they nice?
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Yeah.
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Did they have kids?
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Two.
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Okay.
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And I lived with them for my whole freshman year.
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Did you, like, just stay in your house?
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No, I stayed in their house and my mom left. She went to rehab, and my mom's husband at the time moved out.
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How old were you?
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It was a freshman.
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Yeah, but you didn't, like. Did you ever go back into your house?
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No. Because nobody. Nobody lived there.
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Yeah, but all your stuff was there.
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No, my mom went to rehab and her husband moved out of it.
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So no one lived there. She didn't rent it anymore?
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No.
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Okay.
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So whenever.
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What happened to all of your stuff?
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It. My mom took my mom and so my mom went to rehab. Her husband moved out of that house? Yeah, Bought a house. He. Instead of renting, he bought a house in Nazareth, Pennsylvania. People think I'm from Nazareth. I'm not from Nazareth. I lived there for a whole 18 months. He bought a house in Nazareth. Whatever items he took, like, when he moved out of the rental and bought this house and my mom was in rehab was whatever he took. Does that make sense? I actually like looking back, and for some reason, it keeps, like, circling in my brain lately. Like over the last couple weeks, nobody told me when my mom got out of rehab. Like, she didn't come get me from the neighbor's house. She didn't say, hey, I'm home. I completed treatment. She didn't do any of that. It wasn't until I got kicked out of high school my freshman year that the school called and my mom came and picked me up. And that's when I learned that she was like, home.
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How long was your mom gone for?
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I have no idea because I don't know when she came home.
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No, but like, in your. Like, how was she gone?
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How I remember it when she was gone my entire freshman year. But, like, I don't know that to be true. I don't know how long she was in treatment versus how long she had lived with her husband at the Time in that home in Nazareth. Eventually, I get kicked out of school. She has to come to the school, and then that's when I get transferred to Nazareth. And I lived with her and her husband, the same guy that was in the rental. But I don't know how long she was home for.
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Is she sober?
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No, she'll never be sober. Never.
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I just, like. I would love to meet this person.
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I would love for you to meet her. Because if she is sober, when anybody meets her, everyone will love her.
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No, I don't. I think that I would. It wouldn't be worth my feelings towards her because I don't think it would do anything. I wouldn't be, like, angry and mean towards her. I think I'd probably, like, use it a little bit, like, comically. But underneath that, it's like. I mean, there's a lot, like. Of, like, pain that, like, I would feel towards her and just, like, anger, you know?
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Yeah. That's fair. I only brought that up because that. How that duplex, like, if I were to walk. If I were to drive down 22. Like, 22. And it goes all the way up to Easton. Yeah. You can see the house off the side of the highway, like, right where the mall is on the left. Like, if you're going, I guess, back to Jersey. Yeah. Yep. Lehigh Valley Mall is on the left. The 210. Just two.
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I'm gonna take a picture of it on my ride home.
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I hope you do. And that's the one that, like, if you're looking at the two houses, the mine was on the right and the neighbor was on the left.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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And then I learned something new about you all the time.
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Oh, okay. I love that. My mom didn't stay sober for very long after that.
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After that.
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Yeah. She didn't make it to my great grandma's funeral because she got up.
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Okay.
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Hey, Nana. I hope you're resting in peace.
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Hey, Nana.
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Helen.
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Helen. RIP if you had to leave your three babies with one of your children, who would you choose?
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If I had to say that one.
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More time, the three babies, if you had to leave them with one of your other children for a couple days. Lincoln, I knew that's what you're gonna say when I didn't even have to ask that. But I'm like, oh, like, he's so good with babies.
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Definitely. Lincoln. Lincoln's just so good with all his siblings. I also think Lux is really good, but, like, obviously Lincoln's older, so Lux would be my second choice. And honestly, Creed would be my Third choice. Although I will say that sometimes when they're, like, roughhousing, Creed can get a little rough, only because he doesn't realize, like, he's in the middle. Right. He's used to fighting with. With Lux.
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Yeah.
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And so with Rio, he's the older brother, so, like, he's a little rough there. So I would say my first choice would be Lincoln.
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Yeah.
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He's just so good with his siblings.
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He has a lot of practice.
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He does. He's gonna be the What? Oldest of 11. Not the oldest. Second oldest of 11. He's got six siblings at my house, three siblings at his dad's. So he's what? He'll be one of 11. What?
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Right.
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He'll be one of 11.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, he'll be one of 11. Total.
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No, one of 10.
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No, you said six and three.
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You're right.
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Oh, do you guys not.
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No, I can't do math. No, that's why a podcast. Lincoln will be one of 10.
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Question from the audience. Yeah, I would love Duncan.
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Yeah, I clearly need a. I don't want any Duncan. I don't need any more caffeine cookie butter.
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I have an idea for us.
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Okay. Not a business idea. I don't have the capacity.
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It's not necessarily a business idea. It's a idea for a show for us to do.
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Oh, okay.
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Like, for karma and chaos.
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Okay.
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So one of my good friends and I've talked about this a lot. She's opening up a, like, aesthetic wellness center. Like, really nice. Like, doing Botox, doing iv, doing facials, doing, like, a med spa. Like a. Yeah, med spa. It'll have cold plunges, saunas, red light therapy. Like, very high class. Like, very classy.
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That's cool.
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And so she bought a building. Her husband's renovating it for her. It's so cool. Like, so proud of her because she's, like, kind of worked a million other places, and finally she's opening it up for herself. I was thinking after they open, we could do a live show there. And then, like, she could do. We could sell tickets and then she could do Botox with the people that. And, like, so one, like, she'll take people off to just do Botox while we're doing a live show.
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How many people can fit?
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We could probably do, like, 20 people. Like, like, not like something big. Like a more intimate, like, thing. Like an intimate setting.
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Just, like, take turns doing certain things in there and record it and, like, basically, like, podcast while doing Botox or podcast while doing a cold plunge. 100% just so that we're not, like, inviting strangers.
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Yeah, but that's good for her business to bring people in there to, like, show that it's there too.
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Yeah, I think we could definitely work around that. That's really cool.
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Yeah. Wouldn't that be so. Because I get. Esthetically, it's, like, cool to, like, we could set up, like, a nice little recording spot. Imagine doing, like, a more intimate, like, recording session with, like, 10, 15, 20 people.
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Lindsay and I did. Lindsay and I had a Christmas party one year in Chattanooga. 10. See, it was years ago, and we just. We sold tickets, I think, and I'm pretty sure we sold them, and we had a good turnout, and it was just like an intimate little party. I think that if we were to do something like that, I feel like having it more structured because Lindsay and I didn't know what the hell we were doing. And so it was like, people showed up and we had a good time. But, like, having something more structured would be really cool.
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Yeah.
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Especially because if it's super limited and intimate, that could be really cool because it's like, first come, first serve.
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That's cool.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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Love.
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So maybe. And it's. It's in Stroudsburg, so it's not like. Like, you could bring. What could happen is you could bring the kids to my house, and we could have a weekend together, and then the two of us could go there for, like, dinner, for, like, a night thing, and then Leah could hang out with the kids.
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We'll have to have more adults because that's a lot of kids.
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Yeah, we'll leave back adults.
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Yeah.
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You know, I just saw something like a kid being killed by their father.
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And Puerto Rico.
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I don't know. And, like, it was like. Like, the mom, like, tried arguing against the court that her kid wasn't safe with him ever. And, like, the court, like, basically was like, that's not how this works. Like, he deserves time. And, like, he killed the kid.
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It is upsetting to go from Pennsylvania. Like, this is not just regarding my own experience, but knowing how things operate in Pennsylvania versus Delaware. In the vast difference of how things are seen in Pennsylvania versus Delaware, it does surprise me a little bit, because in certain states, this would never fly. But in Delaware, they would rather see an inmate and an inconsistent. Basically, in my experience, Delaware judges, a lot of them would rather see an inmate slash inconsistent father have rights than no father at all. Whereas a product of that and someone who's gone through it myself and seen my kids go through It. I see an absent dad is better than an inconsistent dad or mom. That's how I see it.
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Yeah, I mean, I would agree. I don't really know if I have legs to stand on because I'm not in any of the situations, but I do. Like, I don't know, it's. I. I can't get past the domestic violence thing, you know?
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Yeah.
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So that's. That's where we are with that. What?
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Oh, no.
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Are you tired of me yet?
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No, I just like don't have anything left in my brain. You know what I mean? This is my. This is my seventh recording in 24 hours, so I'm a little bit tired. And if you are getting that vibe, it's absolutely true.
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You're good.
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Okay. I need to remind you about Revolve. I have so many items in my.
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Cart right now that I'm super excited to get.
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I don't have anything coming up to.
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Wear them to, but I want them in my closet.
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Okay.
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B
Do you ever have two conversations with someone at once? Like on different social platforms and texting?
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Yes.
B
Like, you're in like a completely conversation. Different on like Snapchat or like Instagram. And then sometimes I'm having two conversations at once in a text thread.
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Sometimes I'm having two conversations at once in my own head or in person, or I'm like, talking certain thoughts or I'm saying them out loud to someone and the other person, like you, for example, will be like, what the are you talking about? And it's like, what do you mean? And I only said half the sentence.
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Yeah.
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So then it's like, what are you talking about? And I, now that I've medicated, I have noticed that I do that.
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Yeah. You're a unique person.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, you're welcome.
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I. If I. I need you to think on the spot very quickly.
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Okay.
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If I was incapacitated for any reason or passed away, knock on wood. Hope that doesn't happen anytime soon. What would be the number one thing you would miss about me? And don't say my kids, because somehow, some way you would connect with them. So, like, what would be one thing you miss about me specifically? Don't generalize it. It can't be like, oh, you made me laugh.
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So there's two things that I would miss. One, I would. I would really miss, like, the random that you say that, like, really gets me laughing because it has, like, nothing to do with anything and it only makes sense in your head. Right? Like, even text, like, you'll text me something and I'm just like, what the is going on? Actually, three things. Two. Number two, I. I would miss. You send, like, really heartfelt messages. Like, everyone's like, randomly and like, you kind of underplay them. Like, what was the one thing you said? I had it, like, written down, but I, like, deleted it because we were so far gone from the conversation. Like, you. But you send, like, things that, like, validate, like, feelings and like, friendship and like, just like what, like, the importance is. So, like, that would be. I miss that because that, like, makes you feel good. And then three would be. Sometimes I send you things and I know you're with people and you don't respond, but I know that you're cracking up with someone else about what I send you and you forget to. To answer it to me.
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Do you. You're not gonna miss me cold calling you in the middle of a podcast and not telling you I'm recording until.
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You figure out that I was gonna say that too. But what I also won't miss is you. My calls.
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You won't miss that?
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No.
A
Okay. I. One thing that. I'm only going to list one thing because that was the question. But thank you for like, stroking my ego a little bit. You hold on, you. So it's no secret that I'm kind of a. Right. Like, I get in these moods where I'm like. And no one really wants to deal with me. Like, I'm very self aware. I know this. Sometimes I'll just be in a really, just shitty mood and it doesn't matter. Like, Becky doesn't let it phase her. And so, like, you'll. You'll warm me up a little bit. And so like, I'm not in a bad mood anymore. And so it's like your energy around everyone, I would miss that so much. And it's just like the. You always see you. You try to see the. The brighter side of things. And I love that about you and I hope that you never change that about you.
B
I hope so too.
A
Because, like, people know when Becky is present, the vibes are immaculate.
C
Yes, agreed.
B
Energy's there.
A
And I'm not that. Like, you're the.
D
This is.
A
This is. This is it. This is it. When people speak at my funeral versus your funeral, they will not say that I light up a room. That would be inaccurate to say that I lit up a room. But they will say that about you. And that will be true. Do you know what I mean? Like, you lit up every room that you walk in. You come in and you're the life of the party. You're good energy, good vibes, no matter what. I'm not that way.
B
But depending the mood you're in, you do light up a Room.
A
Yeah, but they're fewer and far between you.
B
Right. You light up certain people's rooms.
A
Do you know that when Rebecca and I were updating my living will, there's, like, a section.
B
Am I in it at all?
A
No. So there's two sections. Like what?
B
Like, not at all. Like, not even like, a note to me.
A
Well, I'll get. Let me get there. So there's like, a section where. So you have to name certain people.
B
I want something.
A
Okay.
B
It could be, like.
A
I haven't. Just hold on.
D
Let me finish.
B
Hello.
C
It's your living.
A
Well, my living room. Oh, in my living. Well, the last time I, like, updated it, like, officially was, like, 2021. So, like, I needed to, like, go through. And Becky. Or not Becky. Rebecca was like, we have to do this yearly. You know what I mean? So I'm going through it or whatever, and there's a section, and it's, like, listing the items that you would want to go to certain people.
B
Yeah.
A
And then there's a section where it's, like, your wishes. So basically, the executor or Rebecca or someone would have a copy of my wishes. So it's like following. Making sure that. That you pick a person that's going to execute this will, but also follow your wishes that are not, like, legal to the document, if that makes sense. And so in the wishes I wrote out, I. This is not a joke. Like, I'm not joking when I say this. I wrote the physical list of who is not welcome at my funeral. And, like, I've joked about that in the past, but, like, that's real now.
B
I don't. I don't know.
A
Good.
B
I mean, good for you. But, like, I don't. That's not gonna, like, hold up. It is, like.
A
No, it. It should hold up. If you pick the right person. If you pick the right person to execute, like, on the list. Do you really want to know?
B
Yes.
A
Would you leave it in?
C
If you want me to, I'll.
A
You can leave it in.
C
I'll hurt it here.
A
If I get a call, you can leave the part where I ask if you're leaving it in. Okay. The listing. Are you ready?
B
I'm sitting right here staring at you.
A
Joe. Okay. V. Janet, which is Joe's mom, Javi. Lauren, obviously. Lauren wouldn't go anyways. Chris.
B
Chris wouldn't go anyway.
A
Oh, Natalie. And then Natalie's oldest son, Scooter. They are not welcome in any capacity. Those are the people that are absolutely not allowed. Do not even attempt to step foot in My funeral.
B
What about Dom?
A
I don't give a. About. She's not gonna show up. I don't give a. About her. That's my list and don't show up.
B
Huh. Huh. Interesting.
D
Interesting.
B
Doesn't surprise me. Have some concerns.
A
What would the concerns be?
B
Well, my one concern would be, like, if it happened at any remotely soon capacity, like, your kids are going to need the support of their.
A
I don't care. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. There are so many people in my life that could coordinate getting my kids where they need to be that there is absolutely no reason that their fathers need to be there. Elijah can come. Well, yeah, well, there's no reason for.
B
Them to be there.
A
There's no reason. Those people are not the people that I would want to support my kids in my death. Like, yes, that's their other parent and I understand that. But the amount of. Of animosity between all of us, though, like, they're gonna have to hear it and support their kids, our kids, to some capacity, but they're not going to be their main source of support during that time. Like, how can you.
D
How.
A
And this actually goes into a further discussion that I wasn't planning on getting into today. But like, when there is like high conflict, co parents where one dies, how does the other parent, who essentially hated that other parent, support their child through that?
B
I mean, that's why you shouldn't have kids if you're not emotionally mature or like, have some sort of, like, it doesn't matter. You can hate somebody, like, violently. Unless there's domestic violence or some sort of abuse involved. Like, you can hate someone and disagree with them. I've seen it with you. Like, even with domestic violence. Violence involved. Like, you don't put your hate for Chris on Lux and Creed. Like, you don't. That's just not what you do. So in the case of someone dying, like, you would, like, you know.
A
Yeah, hold on one second.
B
Holding. Do you have a peloton?
A
Yes.
B
A bike.
A
I sold my bike and I have a treadmill now. Yeah, that's the peloton treadmill.
B
Yeah. I recently got a peloton bike, Mike, because, you know, I have so much more empathy for people who say they don't have time to get to a gym that are parents. Before I'd been like, I used to be like, ah, like you could find time.
A
I literally just talked about this in a solo episode yesterday. And I said, it's not about that.
B
It's just like, it. Like the issue is, is that the Time you find is taking away from something else or like putting reliance on someone else and adding other things to someone else. It's no, it's like not just you. It's like adding hardship for, for other people. So like, if I decide to go to the gym in the morning before Bex wakes up, I'm putting it on Leah to be the sole provider if he does wake up for whatever reason or if there's like and she has work or like, so it's just not feasible. If I decide to go to the gym after we put Bex to bed, that's the only time Leah and I have that it's just the two of us. And so it's taking away from that relationship. And I'm like, when the do people go to the gym?
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A
I literally just sat down yesterday. Alessandra will attest to it. And I literally said like because I made a bingo card for 2026, like a real one. And on it was like, what's A fake bingo card? No, like one that like for my real life. Like, you know how people are. Like, oh, that wasn't on my bingo card for 2025. Or that wasn't on my 2026 bingo card. Like, I actually like made a physical one and one of work out at killer sports because I wanted to be realistic about the goal is like, I know that I'll physically have to be present for a physical business. And so like I'll need to be there a lot of the time, at least to get it off the ground. So I will work out there. But like when people say, oh, you make time for what you want, you prioritize what you want. And it's like, I have seven kids and 12 businesses. When do you think I'm going to work out? Because if you say, oh, just work out at home. How I've said I have seven. Hold on. Because I'm pissed about it now that you brought it up. And it's like when at home. Yeah, when the kids go to bed. To your point, I'm showering, I'm cleaning up, I'm reading. I still have to do that stuff for myself. Oh, in the morning, who's watching the kids for me in the morning, I'm waking up at what, 4am to go to the gym. I think the. Not now. I have to drive to the gym, drive back from the gym, shower. Like that's not realistic in my lifestyle. So when people say like it is so it's so easy, you have to make time for it. It's like, no, it's literally not.
D
Yeah, literally.
A
No, it's not the same. Like people will ask me, how do you read so much? Okay, but when I'm, when I show up somewhere early, 20 minutes early to get in Lincoln's pickup line, I can't go to the gym in that time.
D
Yeah, right.
A
Like I can read in my car for that time. Or when I, after I shower and get everybody in bed, after I lay with three different kids every single night until 11pm, I can shower and read. But I, I'm not going to work out at 11, 11pm do you know what I mean? Yeah, but what was your idea?
B
I'm gonna get back to that. But my solution right now, which is why I started this, I got the peloton bike because in my mind I can do a 20 minute ride after I put Becks down, that doesn't feel like it's taking away too much. Or I can do a 20 minute ride during the day. Even like during the day, like, when my mom is watching Bex or even Leah's watching Vex, I feel too guilty to leave to go to the gym for an hour because I know he's home.
A
But it's also not just an hour because you're not including the ride there and the ride back. So it ends up being like. And it ends up being two. Two and hours.
B
I biked twice on the peloton and my ass hurt so bad that, like, I was like, I can't do this. Like, And I was really sad because I was like, I really wanted this to work, but I got a new seat, and the new seat, my butt doesn't hurt like it did.
A
I love that for you. I sold mine because I was afraid. I was not great at, like, clipping in and clipping out.
B
Yeah.
A
And I was afraid of a house fire.
B
Do they catch on fire?
A
No, I was afraid that I would be stuck in it. Dude.
B
I.
A
My girl, it was in my office. I can't see the kitchen from there, you know, so, like, if the house caught on fire, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be able to get out.
B
Yeah. Okay.
A
So now I have the peloton treadmill.
B
My business idea for you, it's not an addition. It is a value. It's to make things that she's already doing. You should offer. You should offer a mini workout, like circuit class during soccer practices at the facility.
C
Yeah.
A
We interviewed a trainer here. I interviewed a trainer on Monday right here in the living room. And that was something that she suggested. She said to target so smart moms after, like, parents after school, drop off in the mornings. So she was like, I can do 5am to 9 something. Yeah. But she also suggested offering, like, a group session during practices or whatever. Or, like, even during turf rentals. If someone's renting half the turf, you can use the other one for. Because like. Like, how often do parents go to sports and they're staying because it doesn't really make sense for them to leave.
B
That's what I mean.
A
Or they're like, what else can we do during that time? It's like, well, I wouldn't personally cannot. It wouldn't make sense for me to leave and go somewhere else at my son's practice. It would make more sense for me to work out there also.
B
Yeah.
A
And so I definitely want to try to implement that. I don't. You'll see when we go to my house later, you'll see where the construction is happening for Killer. They're like, they. Everything is like, literally in. Like, in motion.
B
Yeah.
A
So that's really exciting.
B
That's so exciting. Wow. So many fun things. All right, enough of this. Yip yap.
A
Yep.
D
Yep.
B
Let's get into it. Here we go. Are you ready for. Are you smarter than a Becky and Kale?
A
Are you smarter than Becky?
C
Are you smarter than a Karma ribbon?
A
Are you love. Are you smarter than a Kamaru?
B
Are you smarter than a Kamaru?
C
What planet is closest to the sun?
B
Saturn?
A
Earth.
B
No.
C
Mercury.
A
I think Earth is. Is third.
C
I have absolutely not a.
B
No clue.
C
And I never would have known the answer to this.
D
Huh?
C
It is okay.
A
Am I right?
D
That's where they got the name from. Third from the sun. Earth.
A
Earth is third from the sun.
C
You're right.
A
I was right.
C
What is eight times seven?
A
56.
B
57.
C
It's 56. Rebecca's back here cheating. Okay, what part of a plant conducts photosynthesis?
A
The stem. The leaf. I was gonna sign the leaf condensation.
C
It's the leaves.
A
Yeah, I said that second, so I. That still counts. No, yeah, it is. Because it was like. It was more like rapid brain dump.
B
No, no, no.
A
Yeah, it was.
B
I was gonna say leaf first, so I would have won.
A
But you didn't. I said it before you. I said leaf before you said leave, so I still won.
C
What is the past tense of run?
A
Ran. Past tense.
D
Yeah.
A
Yeah, I ran to the store.
D
Yes.
A
Okay.
C
What ocean is on the East Coast?
A
Atlantic.
C
United States.
A
Atlantic.
B
All right, Miss. Sea and ocean are the same thing.
C
How many continents are there?
A
Seven.
C
What are they?
B
Asia, Africa, Australia. America.
A
You okay?
B
Australia.
C
Yeah, y'. All. You got him? I think because I couldn't hear things.
A
We both won.
C
If you have three quarters, Two dimes and one nickel, how much money is that?
A
Three quarters is 75. $285. And one nickel.
D
Yes.
A
75. Two dimes, 85. It's a dollar.
B
It is a dollar.
A
What's funny?
C
What is half of 2/3?
A
75.
B
What, like 1 third?
A
Yeah. Oh, 75%.
B
75 is fucking insane. I was so focused on her telling me the answer that I didn't. She told me.
A
I can't see.
D
That.
B
I.
A
Like, Rebecca's are teaming up again. I can't see Rebecca or Alessandra's face. So I just know that Becky's getting all the answers. Not for me. Rebecca. I was thinking, like, 75. Like, 75 cents. Like, I was just thinking, like.
B
No, but keep going with, how did you hit 75?
A
I was thinking of 250 and then splitting Wait, what? I was.
B
Yeah, I'm just curious how we got.
A
I was thinking of a $50 and then splitting that in half to make 75.
C
Why was a $50 in your brain?
A
Yeah, I needed a paper and pen.
C
Oh, I'm dead.
A
That's all.
C
Okay. What does WWW stand for?
A
Worldwide Web. Yes, that is correct. I was gonna say wwe.
C
Spell necessary.
A
N, E, C, E, S, S A, R, Y. Necessary. Please use it in a sentence. It is necessary for you to use protection to avoid getting pregnant unplanned.
C
Please learn from her mistakes.
B
All seven.
A
All seven times six. Oh, yeah.
C
What is the capital of California?
A
Santa Monica. San Diego. AT Los Angeles?
B
Santa Barbara?
C
Sacramento.
A
I was wrong. We were both wrong. I never learned the capitals. Actually.
B
No.
C
Well, our education system here is abysmal. How many sides does a hexagon have?
A
Hex is six.
C
It's six.
B
Oh.
C
What gas do humans need to breathe to survive?
A
Oxygen. H2O. Wait, is that water?
B
What? Isn't it O2? Oxygen? Is it O2?
A
It's oxygen.
B
It's O2, right?
D
Yeah.
B
She said H2O.
A
I knew what I meant.
B
Just a little breathing water. What do you know what you meant?
A
Pisces need water to breathe.
C
What do humans need to breathe?
A
H2O2.
C
What is the largest mammal on earth?
B
Elephant.
A
Hippo.
C
The blue whale.
B
Oh, I forgot.
A
I forgot whales were mammals.
C
I think that's the point. They're supposed to.
A
They're trying to.
B
They got us.
A
Yeah, that one was a good one.
C
Yeah, they got you just there.
A
That one really stumped me.
D
Okay.
A
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C
How many letters are in the English Alphabet?
A
26.
D
Yes.
C
What shape has three sides?
B
Triangle.
A
Triangle.
C
What direction does the sun rise in?
B
West. East.
A
Wait, north.
B
I'm just so focused on myself, I.
A
Can'T just say what direction. Yeah, crazy. Is it wrong, though? Is it wrong? It literally says rise, which means up.
B
Like to rise up. What is the answer? North.
A
East. Oh, I said it. Why does it rise in the east? I don't know why it does.
B
Why are you selling your feet pics?
A
Wait, that does make sense. Because the east, we don't have the answers too. The east is three hours ahead from California, so. That is so true. Like, it rises in the east and sets in the west.
D
Yes.
A
The atmosphere is atmosphering.
B
Wow.
C
You know, like, we do.
B
Sure do.
C
What is 12 by. What is 12 times 12?
A
144.
C
That is true. Did you just take your calculator out?
A
No. Are you lying?
C
Because it's on camera. So if you are lying, we'll find out.
A
Can I literally know my time stables?
C
Apparently not.
A
I might not know my directions, but I know what 8 times 7 and 12 times 12 is. Okay. Oh, my gosh.
B
This is.
A
Fractions are just not for me.
C
What is the largest ocean on earth?
A
Pacific. Yeah, I was gonna say Atlantic. Indigo.
D
Pacific.
C
What did you say?
A
Indigo. Indian Pacific. Oh, yes. We were right.
B
Well, you were.
A
Imagine we, like, go to public school for one day and, like, take their testing, like, literally.
B
I think it's just, like, a case point proven that, like, learning all this and in second grade is, like, not necessary.
A
No, it literally isn't. And honestly, the capitals to the United States are not helpful either because, like, what do you need them for? Yeah, except for this.
C
If I gave you guys a map of the United States blank, do you think you could fill it out?
A
Can you. Can you please wait? Can you print out for Patreon?
C
We'll do it for Patreon.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. Yes, I. I think I would do a good job. I think I'd get more than half.
B
Yeah, I think I would do Okay.
C
I would.
A
Not at all.
D
I'd get like.
A
Can we please do it before we leave? Yeah, yeah. Okay. That'll be fun. Okay.
B
Fun for you.
C
What is the smallest prime number?
B
Zero.
A
Prime.
B
I don't know what a prime number is. So.
A
Prime number. I want to say that.
B
Is zero, not it. One, two, two.
C
Yeah, but you just start counting.
A
It was two or three. Two.
B
What's a prime number?
A
I don't know. I just vaguely remember that.
C
I genuinely have absolutely no idea.
A
I vaguely remember it's like a prime number that can be like with the integers. The who there's like integer. Like it's kind of like the square root, like certain.
C
Yeah.
A
Like you can like. Never mind.
C
Speaking of square root, what's the square root of 81?
A
923.
C
I'm sorry, homest. You were right the first time.
A
I second guessed myself too much.
B
A prime number is a whole number greater than one, so two. And that has exactly two different positive divisions.
A
Divisors.
B
Divisors.
C
Not enough.
A
So it's.
B
That means it can't be evenly divided by any other number.
A
So 3. It said 2 because 3 can't be divided by any other number. Well, yeah, I guess it could. Three divided by one is three. Two divided by one is two.
C
But that's why it's any NAF number after one, because any number can be divided by one.
A
Yeah, got it.
B
And then what is the significance of a prime number?
A
I don't know. And I don't give a. In the same way I don't give a. About the square roots.
B
You know what I mean?
A
Like, why do I know that? I don't know. We're not, we're not mathematicians, we're not architects. Like that is not in our wheels. Wheelhouse.
C
Certainly not a mathematician.
A
You know what I mean?
B
Yeah. Like what? Like what practical use does it.
A
I told Elliot the other day, because when we went to look at that private school. I know I've said this 100 times, but like Lincoln literally got in the car and was. He literally said to me that though in one day the difference that he felt in the public school education versus that school, like my 12 year old said that that's crazy. He's like, mom, I feel like they don't teach me anything at public school. And I told Elliot the same thing. I'm like, I. Because he had a lot of Questions about, like, if he goes to the private school, like, how many science credits does he need? What type of science? He was worried about taking physics. And I literally looked at him and I said, you don't have to take physics. And I'm telling you right now, you don't need physics for whatever you want. Whatever you have in your wheelhouse is not physics. And I promise you, he's not doing anything with, with physics unless, like, there's.
B
Something that in taking physics that sparks like a interest or like a love or a passion. There's literally like.
A
Well, what I thought, what I found interesting about that was Rebecca emailed the director for me with Elliot's questions and she said for people who want to go to college, it is suggested that they take physics. I went to college. I never took physics because in high.
C
School or college, but the curriculum's a lot.
A
And I also just, like, don't want my son to be stressed out about a physics class that he's never going to use in life if that is in someone's plans.
B
What is physics? Just like the law of, of like, like gravity?
A
Yeah. Maybe like Intro to Physics. Like a light course, but not like an in depth physics. Like.
B
Yeah, like an Intro to Physics.
A
And you know what? If, if they started off in a private school that like, started it from when they were little, that would be one thing. But to go from like a public school system that has, that doesn't do that, and then they go to a private school and then on top of it, they have to take private school. Physics is like more of like a college level type of thing.
B
Not happening unless it's college credits.
A
Yeah, well, that's a separate thing. Is like dual enrollment here. Because that's what he wants to do is different. That you still don't need physics.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay, go ahead.
C
Which planet has the most moons?
A
Jupiter.
B
No. Uranus.
C
No. Saturn.
A
Oh.
C
What river runs through Egypt?
B
Denial.
A
Nile River.
C
Yeah, the Nile.
B
Denial.
A
Denial.
C
What is the capital of Canada?
B
Toronto. Quebec.
A
Ottawa?
B
Ontario.
C
Ottawa is correct.
B
Where did that come from?
C
The recesses of your brain. Like, how did you remember that?
A
Ottawa.
C
I, I, it got into my head. I never would have known that.
B
I have no clue.
C
Which US State was the last to join the Union?
A
The Union?
C
Yeah, like the country.
A
Hawaii. Alaska.
B
No, I know this.
A
It's either Hawaii or Alaska, right?
B
No. What?
A
It's Hawaii.
B
Is it?
A
Yeah, I said that first, right?
B
You sure did.
C
Alaska was right.
B
We should do like a, Are you pop, Like a pop quit. Like a more present quiz. Like okay, give me one second. I'll pull one, like, something a little bit more tangible.
A
Like she said, one.
C
That I'm gonna get the answers right.
A
You're upset because you can beat me in any physical capacity out there, but, like, the second I'm, like, winning something.
B
You're not even winning here.
A
I am winning. I've gotten way more correct answers than you.
B
You're not even that far ahead of me.
A
I am way far ahead.
B
No, you're not.
A
Out of all the questions that she has asked, I have answered 75 of them correctly, and you've answered about. About 50.
B
Someone tally him up. She's not that far ahead.
A
I am far ahead. No, let me win something. Let me be good at something. It's upsetting to me that you're not giving me credit. She's still on that.
B
Looks like you are smarter than a karmaroo. Looks like you're the smartest karmaroo here.
A
I am.
B
At least I'm street smart. So am I. I would win in a zombie apocalypse.
A
Yeah. I don't want to live in a zombie apocalypse. At that point, I'm throwing myself, like, yeah, literally. I don't want to survive that.
B
I do.
D
For what?
A
Well, you want to start over all over again with, like, the bare minimum and basically go back to being a.
B
Caveman in these times?
D
Yeah.
C
Same.
A
Girl. You're good.
B
You know something about me. What? Something about me. I love drinking from the top of drinks. So I rise that straw right up. I do that, too. And I take the cola. This sip that there is making sure I don't stink.
D
Yum.
A
Let me tell you something. I went to go get a pedicure. I got a pedicure yesterday or two days ago. Yeah. I did not realize how bad my leg hair was until I got that pedicure.
D
Yeah.
A
And I was like, oh, that's bad.
B
They don't care.
C
It is colder.
B
They do talk crap, though.
A
But I went home as soon as I got in the shower. But you don't want to shave right before one either, because it hurts a little bit. Yeah. So I. As soon as I got home and I. From the pedicure, I jumped in the shower to shave my legs.
B
Can you take a sip from the top of your coffee?
A
Sure, hon.
D
See?
C
Oh, baby.
B
Life changed, right?
A
No, ask me another question, because I'm about to beat this. Okay.
C
And we're doing pop culture this time.
A
Oh.
B
Oh.
C
You asked for it.
A
I didn't ask for pop culture.
B
All right, let's see where this goes. All Right.
C
Which artist song Flowers went massively viral?
B
Miley Cyrus.
D
Sucker.
C
Bruno Mars is insane.
A
I hope he buys you flowers. That one. That's what I thought it was.
B
Oh, okay. Got you.
A
I feel like that's fair. That was.
C
That is fair.
D
That is.
A
Don't cheat. I can't see your face. So if you're giving her the answers.
C
Me?
A
Yes.
C
I was never giving her the answers.
A
Rebecca. The Becky's. The Rebecca's were teaming up.
C
Who played Barbie in the Barbie movie?
D
Ashley Tisdale.
A
No.
B
Who's the chick from Wolf of Wall Street? Margot Robbie.
A
I don't even know who that is actually.
C
Tisdale.
A
Oh, that was High School Musical.
C
Yeah, same thing as Barbie.
B
I've never seen High School Musical.
A
Me neither.
C
Okay, which actor slapped Chris rock at the 2022?
A
Will Smith.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Yeah. That was crazy. Will Smith.
B
That was wild.
C
Which artist?
B
I've seen out your mother mouth.
C
That was crazy. Which artists era tour became Taylor Swift? All right. I really did not think you would know that. So that's good.
A
I literally went to it. Are you serious?
B
Yeah. I made a shirt to go. I made a shirt. It said it like used her because whatever. Because throwing shade never made you any less gay.
A
That's a big deal with what you wear.
B
It was like an out of body experience going. It was. It was really like would recommend. The concerts are just so much better when you know all the music too where like you can just like kind of be like participate in the whole thing.
A
I agree. I don't.
B
And like it's her. Sorry. It was just so entertaining.
A
I'm not. I don't listen to anything by Taylor Swift. So yeah, it would not be enjoyable for me because I don't know any of her songs. Same for like I took Elliot to Olivia Rodrigo. I didn't know any of her songs. So like obviously I took him because that was his birthday gift. But I did not enjoy it the same way that he did. But like he loved it because he.
B
Knew every song, the whole product. It was a huge production. There's tour.
A
It was like for those prices and also for like the three hours for two tickets. Were you in the nosebleeds?
B
Well, I mean I was on top row, but I was the first row. It was so nice. I know, I know this is what everyone says, but like she is a phenomenal songwriter. Like you take. You take her lyrics and you put like used to have some. There was this trend going on on Tick Tock that one of her songs was put into like an afro Beats and like, people were. It like, was a bop. Like, it was so good.
A
Yeah, I've heard really good things about her lyrics.
D
Yeah, I just.
B
Her lyrics are insane.
A
No, I. And I believe that. And so, like, my friend Tony from Vegas, like, she's tried to get me to listen to the lyrics. I think you have. My. My texted me about a couple songs and like, I could. And I never listened to them, but, like, I could. I could see that. I guess I didn't know that you were a swifty.
B
Yeah.
C
Love that.
B
For you, me, Liam beck, sing the 10 minute all too well version in the kitchen all the time.
C
Okay, let's go back to Are you smarter than 5th grader vibes?
B
I think.
C
Because I think we'll have more fun with that. What part of speech is the word because?
B
Pronoun. I mean, that's not what I meant. I meant add an ad. Adverb.
C
Is she just paused, like, staring off into space?
A
I have no idea.
C
Conjunction. Yes, it is a conjunction.
B
There we go. I knew I'd get there. She didn't give it to me. Conjunction function. What's your function? Con. Conjunction junction. What's your function?
A
I had no idea.
C
What is three fourths? A decimal?
A
70.
C
As a decimal. I mean.
A
0.75. Wait, three fourths. 0.75.
C
Yes, you are right. The 75 was an answer at this point. What is 30% of 50?
A
30%.
D
Yes, it is.
C
15.
A
I only would have gotten there a lot slower.
B
I'm just good at tipping. Yeah, me too.
A
That's how I was going to do it. Double the first number, which would have been 10, and then a little bit more would have been 15.
C
But okay, I'm. I'm going to give you a little more than this question is giving you. What are the three branches of the US Government?
B
Judicial, legislative, and executive.
A
Yeah.
B
Do you want to know why I know that? Because I get so embarrassed when people on Tick Tock. When it's like. When it's like a right versus left situation. And it's always like, well, what are the three branches of government? And my biggest fear is someone coming up to me on the street and doing that to me. So, like, I have it engraved in my mind. So I'm never in that situation.
A
You like, where do you go?
D
Nowhere.
A
Like, that's what I just said. I'm like, literally lives in the middle of nowhere. Rebecca. I literally just looked at her and said, where do you go? Coming up.
B
I'm prepared, obviously.
C
Oh, my God. She's prepared for one of the cows to come up to her and ask her.
B
Terrif. I'm terrified of that happening.
C
Funny, that's like an intrusive thought.
A
Yeah.
C
Okay. And what is the function of the legislative branch?
A
The legislation? To pass bills.
C
No, but close.
A
Present, present, possible bills.
C
To make laws. Yeah, to make laws.
B
That makes sense.
A
Close.
C
You are. What is the capital of New York State?
A
New York City? Albany. Buffalo. It's Buffalo.
C
It's Albany.
A
I was right.
C
You were not.
A
I said Albany.
C
I just started listing all places in New York. Okay. What state of matter has a definitive shape and volume solids?
B
Yeah. Do you ever hear that joke, would you rather eat a baby goat or.
A
Did you forget the joke? Somebody send help over here. We don't know what the is going on. What joke are you talking about? Eat a baby goat or what? What the. Wait, like, is that a joke? Like, what is going on?
B
Wait, hold on.
A
My Botox is kicking in, so I don't know if you can see my flexed eyebrows at this point, but I am absolutely perplexed.
B
Oh, would you rather eat a baby goat or a matter baby?
D
A what?
B
A baby goat or a matter baby?
A
What's a matter baby?
B
Nothing. I'm looking delusional.
A
Why the would you say that? Like, why would you say that? Why would you say that?
B
I just pop. I just.
A
Because now I have to text everyone and ask them what the answer is.
B
Nothing much. What's the matter? That's what I said.
A
I literally like, what am I supposed to do with that new achievement is crazy. Rebecca's crying over.
C
Oh my God.
B
I think we're good here. What do you think?
A
Well, now we're going to do Follow us on Patreon. Go become a member on Patreon because we're about to do the map of the United States and we're gonna see who. It's not a race of time. It's a matter of how many we get. Correct, Right? Yep. Okay.
B
Well, that's it, folks. Thank you for joining us for yet another lovely week of karma and chaos. See ya, love ya. Bye.
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Hi, I'm Lauren. And I'm Chandler. And we're the hosts of Pop Apologist Podcast, a weekly podcast devoted to celebrity gossip, Hollywood deep dives, Real housewives, drama, and anything and everything. Taylor Swift. We're two sisters who make no apologies for our love of pop culture and the fact that a listers might mean more to us than each other. Join us on your favorite podcast app every Wednesday for pop Apologists. Pop Apologists, your new favorite sister and celeb podcast.
Podcast: Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter
Episode: Are You Smarter Than A Karmaroo?!
Date: February 3, 2026
In this lively, unfiltered episode, hosts Kail and Becky reconnect, share updates on their chaotic but relatable 30s, and test their smarts in a hilarious “Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?” showdown—dubbed “Are You Smarter Than a Karmaroo?!” The duo covers everything from TikTok and influencer culture, parenting and family dynamics, friendship, self-care, memorable childhood stories, and their thoughts on modern adulthood, all underscored by candid banter and plenty of laughs.
Kail and Becky open with catch-up banter about buying random items on TikTok Shop, changes in social media platforms, and influencer culture shifting due to possible business changes at TikTok.
Conversation flows naturally into their shopping habits, their ‘add to cart’ confessions, and decluttering their homes of old gadgets (e.g., GoPros).
Lighthearted moment about Kail texting Leah to check in on her son, Bex, and sharing joy over parenting small “nuggets.”
The hosts reminisce about sometimes questionable childhood behaviors (e.g., pretending to smoke leaves in Pixie Stix), forming core memories, and their parents’ influences.
Honest conversation about living on a highway, childhood housing instability, and cost-driven choices parents make.
Parenting perspectives: Kail on which child she’d trust most to watch over the younger ones ("Definitely Lincoln"), explaining her thought process based on the kids’ personalities and responsibilities.
Becky pitches a “Karma & Chaos” live show held at an up-and-coming med spa, blending podcasting and self-care for a small group of fans—Botox, cold plunges, saunas, etc.
Difficult topic: Discussing family court systems and the heartbreaking reality of custody decisions sometimes leading to tragic outcomes.
Touching segment where Kail and Becky share what they would miss most about each other if one passed away.
Kail opens up about her living will—including a (humorous, yet serious) “not welcome at my funeral” list. Becky expresses concern about kids needing support from all parents after a loss, but Kail is clear on boundaries.
Parenting and time management: Frustrations with the "you make time to work out if it matters" narrative.
Becky suggests offering mini workout classes at Kail’s soccer facility for parents during their kids’ practices—mutually beneficial for business and parent self-care.
(41:30) "What planet is closest to the sun?"
Becky: "Saturn?"
Kail: "Earth."
[Answer: Mercury. Cue laughter.]
(45:02) "Spell necessary."
Kail: "N-E-C-E-S-S-A-R-Y. Necessary. Please use in a sentence. It is necessary for you to use protection to avoid getting pregnant unplanned." [Group laughs]
(44:41) "What is half of 2/3?"
Kail: "75."
[Group erupts—math struggles are real.]
(46:06) "What is the largest mammal on earth?"
Becky: "Elephant."
Kail: "Hippo."
[Correct answer: Blue whale.]
(56:31) Becky: “Looks like you are smarter than a Karmaroo… at least I’m street smart. I would win in a zombie apocalypse.”
Kail: “I don’t want to live in a zombie apocalypse. At that point, I’m throwing myself, like, yeah, literally.”
(65:07) Becky gets everyone with the classic “Would you rather eat a baby goat or a matter baby?” joke.
Kail: “What’s a matter baby?”
Becky: “Nothing, what’s the matter with you?”
[Group dissolves into laughter]
Kail and Becky’s competitive streaks shine through, but so do their vulnerabilities and strengths. They admit to forgetting key facts from school, question the value of some curriculum, and have fun with their gaps in knowledge.
“Karma & Chaos” continues to stay true to its branding: raw, relatable, and a blend of sincere life talk and rowdy fun. The hosts’ chemistry shines through in their vulnerability and comic timing. This episode uniquely combines everyday struggles of work, family, and selfhood with nostalgia and pop culture, keeping the energy bright but never superficial.
If you love banter, honest parenthood, a dash of nostalgia, and a whole lot of laughter, you’ll want to tune in.