Becky’s College Chaos Era ft Morgan

Summary

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter
Episode: Becky's College Chaos Era ft. Morgan
Release Date: April 21, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively deep dive into the enduring friendship between Becky Hayter and her college best friend and former roommate, Morgan, with host Kail Lowry joining them for a blend of laughter, nostalgia, and real talk. The trio explores the highs and lows of college life, the transition to adulthood and parenthood, maintaining friendships across decades, and wild stories from their East Stroudsburg University (ESU) days. The conversation is rich with honesty, humor, and heart—offering listeners a window into the "chaos era" that shaped who they are now.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rekindling Old Friendships & College Origins

[03:08 – 06:45]

• Morgan recounts meeting Becky in the sports registration line at ESU, where she boldly inserted herself into a conversation and left feeling victorious with new friends.
• The iconic "Hater and Holler" duo is recalled.
  • Morgan: "We weren’t known individually on campus. We were known as one." [05:10]
• Morgan and Becky reminisce about being inseparable, living together for most of their college years, and their cemented campus legacy.

2. Being in the Trenches: Motherhood & Shared Experience

[06:59 – 11:16]

• The trio discusses the daunting early months of motherhood. All three of Becky’s closest college friends, herself included, had sons within nine months of each other.
• Kail opens up about her own struggles:
  • "The first year is not my favorite. Like, I low key had a love hate relationship with it... the responsibility of it. It was rough." [08:32]
• Morgan, with a five-month-old, appreciates having friends to commiserate with and laugh about "cuteness aggression."
• The importance of a supportive partner is highlighted.
  • Kail: "The partner you pick will change your entire experience." [11:16]

3. Weddings, Emotions, & Chosen Family

[15:42 – 19:54]

• Becky gets emotional while remembering Morgan’s wedding, where she stood as a "bridesmaid" in a suit:
  • "I was hysterically crying, like, the entire set ... watching these rings get passed through all her favorite people." [16:10, 18:01]
• The unique "warming of the rings" tradition is explained.
• They recall post-wedding antics—Becky blacking out, arm wrestling at the after-party, and heartfelt moments with parents.

4. Friendships, Pranks & Mischief (College Chaos!)

[20:08 – 24:02]

• The segment is packed with wild stories from college:
  • Swapping neighbors’ Christmas decorations and yard inflatables.
  • “Yield sign" thefts, sprinting from scenes, surviving physical comedy, and harmless yet hilarious pranks.
  • Living the “beach town summer” life—Becky working in Ocean City, Maryland between semesters.
• Becky shares a one-night stand story that typifies her brief single era and nonchalant attitude toward hookups.

5. On Sexuality & Identity Journeys

[48:42 – 50:24]

• Becky’s coming out is discussed, with Morgan admitting initial confusion and feeling left out:
  • Morgan: "I was not homophobic. First off, the reason I was so mad at you was because you told me you weren't gay for like a whole year..." [48:47]
  • Becky: "I thought I wasn’t gay. And then I was like, oh…” [49:33]
• The group reflects on societal pressure and the journey to fully embracing one’s identity.

6. Legacy of Campus Chaos

[46:39 – 48:01, 52:11 – 54:47]

• The Hater & Holler legend: even years after graduating, students and town cops recall their antics.
  • Morgan: "The town cops used to call us and be like, ‘Hey, we just arrested your friend. Can you come get him?’" [47:06]
• Becky describes her “bush parties” at her parents’ property, complete with hand-built shacks, secret passages, and massive beer Olympics.
• Kail marvels at the epic scale and veracity of these events.

7. Importance of Intentional Friendship

[61:43 – 68:01]

• As adults, Becky and Morgan discuss how they keep their college friend group strong:
  • Planning get-togethers months (sometimes a year) in advance.
  • Consciously inconveniencing themselves to maintain bonds.
  • Showing grace and understanding through life’s changes.
  • Mutual support in tough times (e.g., sending food, checking in, helping without question).
  • Morgan: "It's just planning, picking a date, setting it in your calendar and not bailing on it." [63:08]
  • Becky: "Life isn't meant to be lived alone. Building a community and having that safety allows for you to go through life a lot smoother knowing you have that support." [67:30]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On College Life & Friendship:
  • “Have you ever sat on the edge of a cliff... it's thrilling, but you can be a little scared sometimes.” (Morgan on being friends with Becky) [37:05]
• On Coming Out:
  • “I was not homophobic… you told me you weren't gay for like a whole year. So when people would be like, 'she's gay,' I'd be like, 'no, she's not! She told me!'" [48:47]
• On Parenthood:
  • "It’s just so hard in that first year... you’ll never be what you used to be, ever. That will never come back. And I’m not saying that in a negative way. There’s positives to that." (Kail) [09:15]
• On Maintaining Deep Friendships:
  • "It takes a lot of inconveniencing yourself to stay friends for a long time, right? Especially with getting ten girls together who all have responsibilities..." (Becky) [62:45]

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Timestamps of Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|------------| | Introduction & How Becky and Morgan Met | 03:08–06:45| | Motherhood Real Talk | 06:59–11:16| | Weddings & Chosen Family | 15:42–19:54| | College Mischief & Chaos Stories | 20:08–24:02| | One-Night Stand & Sexual Fluidity | 23:46–33:09| | Hater & Holler: College Legends | 46:39–48:01| | Coming Out & Identity | 48:42–50:24| | Bush Parties/Inventive College Fun | 53:04–55:12| | Strategies for Adult Friendships | 61:43–68:01|

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a relatable, uproariously funny, and occasionally emotional tribute to lifelong friendships, formative chaos, and embracing every new era of life. Whether you’re a parent, former wild child, or just yearning for a sense of realness and solidarity, “Karma & Chaos” delivers—reminding listeners that intentionality, a little inconvenience, and lots of laughter are the real keys to lasting connection.

Transcript

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[Becky Hater]

Welcome back, everyone, to karma and chaos podcast. Good morning, good evening, good day, good night. Coming at you live from Dover, Delaware. This is the last time we're recording in this house.

[Killer]

Yeah. Wow, it's. This has been a fun journey, having karma and chaos, but I guess this is where it all ends.

[Becky Hater]

Okay, that's not true.

[Killer]

I'm lying. I'm just kidding. But we are sitting with our friend Morgan, who I met through Becky, who went to college with Becky.

[Becky Hater]

That's the worst intro ever.

[Killer]

Why? Why is that the worst.

[Becky Hater]

That's the worst intro.

[Killer]

Morgan, who went to college with Becky.

[Becky Hater]

Morgan is my best friend.

[Morgan]

That's like, kel, you just gotta say how you know me. So I get it.

[Killer]

Thank you.

[Becky Hater]

Anyway, guys, this is good morning. Morgan was my college roommate all four years. I'm happy to have her here because, you know, Morgan knows a lot about me, More than probably everyone in this room put together.

[Killer]

Did you guys go into college not knowing who each other was?

[Becky Hater]

Morgan, why don't you tell her the story of how we met?

[Morgan]

I knew this was gonna come up within the first five minutes. I knew it.

[Killer]

First of all, y' all went to e. ESU, which is east stroudsburg university,

[Morgan]

so Becky would call me a loser. We were standing in the physical line for sports, right? Because I went to college and played lacrosse. Becky, dual athlete over here. So we were standing there, and I didn't know anyone. So I'm standing there awkwardly, like, with my phone, just looking around. Well, Becky's having this really cool conversation with this girl in front of me, and I'm like, I want to be a part of that conversation. So here I'm just listening, like, completely eavesdropping, and just start inserting myself in the conversation.

[Killer]

Oh, I do that every day.

[Morgan]

And they literally looked around, and they were like, who the hell are you?

[Killer]

They said that to you out loud?

[Morgan]

100. And then Becky was just like, oh, we're actually trying to get people to come to this basketball event. You want to, like, come around campus with us and, like, walk around and try to recruit people to come? And I was like, yeah. So I left, and I was like, I got two friends, and I told My parents.

[Becky Hater]

I got two friends of you, and we were inseparable.

[Killer]

Did you know she was your roommate at that time?

[Becky Hater]

Oh, we didn't live together.

[Morgan]

Well, no, we didn't.

[Becky Hater]

Morgan lived on my futon in my.

[Morgan]

In her room. Yeah.

[Killer]

What?

[Morgan]

We.

[Becky Hater]

We were roommates for four of the five years. Not our freshman year, but we were best friends freshman year.

[Killer]

So did you get to pick your roommate the following year then?

[Morgan]

Yeah, we moved off campus.

[Becky Hater]

Jinx.

[Killer]

And their last names were so cool. Hater and Holler.

[Becky Hater]

That's really cool that that's what we were, like, known. Like, we were known as, like. We weren't known individually on campus. We were known as one.

[Morgan]

I don't think people knew our first names.

[Killer]

Yeah, it was just Haters.

[Morgan]

Holler. Hater.

[Killer]

Yeah, I met you in 2012. Maybe. Maybe 13 somewhere around there. It was really early. I mean, it was a long time ago because that's when the wedding. 2013.

[Morgan]

Yeah. So 2013. Yeah.

[Killer]

Oh, wow, that's cool. That's a long time.

[Morgan]

It is a long time. And I don't think I've seen you in, like, 10 years.

[Killer]

No, I. I've saw you at.

[Becky Hater]

Go ahead.

[Killer]

We went somewhere, and we were at a hotel, and then I saw Holly, who I went to high school with, and she was there, and I didn't recognize her, and then she told me who she was with the red hair.

[Morgan]

I don't know this hotel. Is that.

[Killer]

Yes, you do. You were there. And I also went to your house. Oh, well, yeah, so it's definitely been more than 10 years since I've seen you.

[Morgan]

I mean, less than, like, July 4th party at your house.

[Killer]

Oh, and those were way okay.

[Becky Hater]

No, those were.

[Morgan]

I mean, it's 2026. Yeah. No, but I've.

[Killer]

What was this event? Was it the. For the haters event, maybe?

[Becky Hater]

That was almost 10 years ago. No, it was 2018.

[Morgan]

It would have been before the haters event.

[Killer]

Literally, like six years ago.

[Becky Hater]

It was eight years ago. Anyways, Morgan decided to join us. She lives. Still lives in Delaware, so she was like, oh, I'm going to come. And I'm like, I'm gonna make her come on this podcast with us.

[Killer]

I can't wait to hear college stories. Live vicariously through you guys.

[Becky Hater]

And that is what this episode. You guys are in for a treat because Morgan and I have lived many lives.

[Killer]

Were you drinking alcohol out of shoes with her?

[Morgan]

Yeah. I mean, did you go to esu?

[Becky Hater]

If you did, Morgan and I also. Morgan just had a baby as well, which is so ir, like, there's irony. Like, Morgan and Amanda and I were like the three musketeers in college, and the three of us all had boys last year.

[Killer]

So now, like. So you're friends also.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Killer]

Oh, okay.

[Morgan]

Anyway, so we all had sons within nine months of each other.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. And it's been like a journey of. It's been cool because we've been able to bond more throughout this process. It is crazy to me of how much you don't understand of parenthood until you're a parent.

[Killer]

Like, you're in the trenches.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. But, like.

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And like, five months old. Yes. It's rough.

[Becky Hater]

And having like, a, like, friends to go through it with is just makes it so much easier because all we do is, like, bitch in, like, our group chat together about.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Or I'll be like, hey, so is this normal that happens at 16 weeks? And Becky's like, yeah, Leah and I, we blacked it out. We don't talk about that time frame.

[Killer]

My sister had a baby, her second baby, the beginning of. No, the end of March. And she texted me and she said, I don't know how you did this so many times. She's in the trenches.

[Morgan]

I don't know if I want a second.

[Killer]

Well, what's up is, like, nobody had. No. None of my friends really had kids, so I was going through the trenches by myself.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. Yeah. You can't even relate.

[Killer]

Like, no.

[Becky Hater]

You can't comprehend it until you're in it. Like, it's like, it's not. You can't it.

[Killer]

And what's crazy about it, though, is, like, I'll be honest, and I've said this before, so don't crucify me this time. The first year is not my favorite. Like, I low key. Had a love hate relationship with it because it's like, they're cute and like, you're so happy to have this child, but, like, it's so hard in that first year that, like, the responsibility of it. It was rough.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I mean, I think it's like, I deal with more identifying issues of myself.

[Killer]

Like, you don't. It's like you're not who you once were.

[Morgan]

Yeah. And like, when I was in my third trimester of, like, oh, I can't wait to feel like myself again in three months. I can't wait to like, get a little bit part. Like a part of me back. Right.

[Killer]

No, it takes.

[Morgan]

Why didn't slap me in the face and be like, you don't get that person back.

[Killer]

You will in two years.

[Morgan]

In two years. Okay.

[Killer]

Yeah. I would say, like around the age of like, 2, 3 years old, you'll feel like yourself again, but then you might be thinking about another one at that point. That's what happened to me. The saying, you got your pink back. Like how flamingos get their pink back. Whatever. You start to feel more like yourself. You'll never be what you used to be, ever. That will never come back. And I'm not saying that in a negative way. I think there's, like, there's positives to that. But, like, you'll start to feel a little bit better around the two year mark. Like, the twins are just about two and a half and I'm starting to feel better.

[Morgan]

Okay, well, that gives me hope.

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

You're the light at the end of the tunnel.

[Killer]

I'm sorry.

[Becky Hater]

My favorite thing about motherhood, I truly, I cannot. It's like cuteness, aggression of when Bex learns new things, he does this new thing where he, like, laughs and throws his head back. I'm like. And like. And it's so freaking cute, I just want to squeeze him. Yeah, I do bite his. I nibble on his ears sometimes.

[Killer]

But I also think because he's. He's about to be one, so he's like, almost a toddler.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, he's. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

Things change. At, like, I would say seven months is when it starts.

[Killer]

Oh, that's ambitious.

[Becky Hater]

Feeling like a personality is forming. Nine months, it's like, oh, yeah, like, you're funny. And then it. I think it just grows from there. But before seven months, count me out.

[Killer]

Before one. Count me out. It's before one. Count me the fuck out.

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[Becky Hater]

Oh, you're still. He's only five months old.

[Morgan]

He's five months old. I mean, he's got a personality and he can do some things.

[Becky Hater]

Little styles boy.

[Morgan]

No, I would say my, like, probably my favorite thing is when I watch Josh, like, teach him something. So like, we taught him how to turn the page of a book.

[Killer]

Oh, cute.

[Morgan]

Which is like, he doesn't know what he's doing, but, like, it's just the memory of, like, you can read a book to him and he'll literally take his hand out and flip the page.

[Killer]

Right? So it's like, so, like, okay, like,

[Morgan]

you're a person kind of.

[Killer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

So like, it makes those, like, tough nights a little easier because you're like, all right, you're pretty cute.

[Killer]

Does he sleep through the night or.

[Morgan]

No, he wakes up like, once a night, so I can't complain.

[Killer]

Right, right.

[Morgan]

I can't complain, but she picks her

[Becky Hater]

good daycare part too.

[Killer]

So like Josh, the partner you pick will change your entire experience. Yeah, and I hate reading online when they're like, well you knew this before when you picked them and it's like, no, actually, you can have an amazing relationship with someone and you have a baby and that first year will show you exactly who the that person is.

[Morgan]

Yeah, well, absolutely. Absolutely.

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[Morgan]

No, I mean, and I had a C section, so, like, not what I planned on for birth and stuff. And knowing how Josh, like, stepped up of, like, okay, you can't do this. You can't move here. You can't pick styles up from the crib and, like, things like that, it was just. I mean, it was nice. And he went back to work after two weeks, which was, like, kind of crazy. But he worked from home, so it was, like, helpful where he could, like, come around. And Josh is great. He's.

[Becky Hater]

Josh is the silly. Like, a silly, goofy guy.

[Morgan]

Such goofy guy.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, he's like. He's like a theatric. Not, like, he's not a theater guy, but, like. Yeah, he's very animated.

[Morgan]

He is literally silly Uncle Josh to everyone.

[Killer]

Okay.

[Morgan]

And that is just his.

[Killer]

And you need that when you're in the trenches of motherhood because you're like, I'm deep, dark, tired, pulling my hair out, and I need that little.

[Morgan]

Well, people used to be like, how are you and Josh doing? Right? Because, like, things change and, like, your dynamic changes, your relationship, like, your intimacy, everything. Right? And I literally would respond and be like, I still find him funny some days. So, like, we've got to be doing, like, okay.

[Killer]

Silver linings. He's funny sometimes.

[Morgan]

Laughing at his jokes. I think we're doing okay.

[Killer]

They're corny dad jokes.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. Speaking of Josh, like, Morgan's wedding. I was in Morgan's wedding.

[Killer]

Did you wear a suit on her side?

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, I love that I wore. What color was it?

[Morgan]

Sage green.

[Becky Hater]

Sage green suit on her side. That's why the bridesmaids. The bridesmaids. Really cute. I was hysterically crying, like, the entire set, and I'm, like, standing up there. My eyes are like. I went thinking about. Because I was literally like, I was a mess.

[Killer]

Like, just so happy for them.

[Becky Hater]

It was just because Morgan's had like, troubled past relationships and I've like watched her throughout her entire life and like it. I was. I was like uncontrollably sobbing that I turned around, like during the ceremony. Cuz like, I like couldn't hold it together. And Amanda was in or behind me and she just kept like pinching me, trying to get me to like, snap out of it. Get. Get it together. I was a mess.

[Morgan]

I don't think there's a single photo from the actual ceremony where she's not quiet. I was cuz between her and my mom.

[Becky Hater]

Cuz Josh was like, Josh. Yeah, they did. Josh said, I'll never forget what is

[Killer]

personal vows like we wrote.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

Josh said, like, you know, being in love with Morgan is like standing in a stadium, like where everyone's cheering for you or something.

[Killer]

Cry right now. Please don't.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, and I was just. I was like, my God. And I was sobbing. I like could not hold it together. And then Morgan's wedding was the first wedding that we did the warming up the rings at ours because her wedding

[Morgan]

was the first one.

[Becky Hater]

I and I've been to a lot of weddings. Warming of the ring.

[Morgan]

So you take your wedding band and you put it in like a little bag or something and you share it with whoever you want in the like audience or not the audience, but your guests. Right. So like your officiant has them, they hand them to the first person and it basically our wedding rings went through our immediate family members. So they held them.

[Killer]

Stop praising them if they wanted to,

[Morgan]

if that's your thing or just said some like, positive things to like, welcome our marriage with our closest people. And they warm them. So they went on. Well, like when they went on our hands, it was like, hey, we're standing with you in this moment.

[Becky Hater]

Like, why would you say that I was a mess?

[Morgan]

Because it's been 10 minutes in your crime. She.

[Becky Hater]

She had like her nana was like a saint of a woman. And like she was thankfully there at the time too. And like she was old. So like, you knew that. It was just like, I was just so thankful that she was there. Even Uncle Mark and everyone. So watching these rings get passed through, like all her favorite people and I.

[Morgan]

And then we did it with the wedding party too.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. Pass through us, dude. I was.

[Killer]

How could you be normal? How could you be normal? Were you not crying? I can't get married in front of people because I'll just cry all my makeup off. There's no reason for anyone to come

[Morgan]

to my wedding completely in front of people.

[Killer]

I didn't like it.

[Morgan]

We were both there.

[Becky Hater]

You were at the wedding?

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

It was your date. You don't remember buying the leaf blower afterwards?

[Becky Hater]

Oh, yeah, I do remember that.

[Killer]

Yeah. I didn't like him that much. Like, I was questioning, should I even be doing that? You know what I mean?

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[Morgan]

But they were cool animals, so it was fun to be there.

[Becky Hater]

I blacked out. Listen to this. I blacked out so hard at her wedding because I had to be there when everyone else had to be there at 7am to get and like me. I. I did my own hair and makeup, you know, and so I was drinking and. And like, the whole time. We ended up going to a bar after and there were pictures of me arm wrestling dudes at the bar.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

And I was beating. I literally blacked out. I do not remember. And I don't black out, like, often. I normally am very in control of my alcohol and I don't remember a lick of it. There's pictures.

[Morgan]

Knock, knock.

[Becky Hater]

No one is home.

[Killer]

No one is home.

[Morgan]

No one.

[Becky Hater]

It's so funny.

[Killer]

It's kind of like that post I made. Knock, knock. Who's there? Not our dads.

[Morgan]

Speak.

[Becky Hater]

Speaking of, my dad was at her wedding and there's, like, really, like, amazing photos. Pictures of, like, them two dancing and, like.

[Morgan]

Yeah, it was a good one. Of you. Or like, him and your mom and, like, you and him.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Killer]

That's really nice.

[Becky Hater]

Really great. And it was. The location was beautiful, too.

[Morgan]

Vanderwan Acres in Seaford.

[Killer]

I've never heard of it.

[Morgan]

Yeah, it's like an old creamery.

[Becky Hater]

Anyway, that was fun. Morgan and I also used to drive around and switch people's Christmas decorations.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Killer]

What do you mean?

[Morgan]

So, like, we would drive in my car.

[Killer]

This doesn't surprise me from her. It surprises me about you.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was my idea. Literally. No, literally. So Becky came to visit one. It was winter break, and it was Danielle. My best friends.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

We would drive around and take people's Christmas decorations.

[Killer]

We had a sleepover. We had a sleepover at my house. My old house. My first house in Dover. And Danielle was there and it was. Thanks, Mom. And Dad. She's a mom.

[Morgan]

She's a mom. Danielle Baby Isla.

[Killer]

Okay. Anyways, tell your story.

[Morgan]

Yeah. No, we just used to steal decorations. So, like, if we saw like, 10 houses apart, we Would take that house's decorations like blow ups and put them

[Killer]

down at this house and not get caught.

[Morgan]

No, no. Never happen.

[Becky Hater]

It was harm. But they would be like next to each other. So like we would just switch.

[Killer]

Do you think they notice each other?

[Morgan]

Yeah, I mean, I think so. We're talking about blowups. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Killer]

But like if you have a blowup and then it gets replaced by somebody else's blowup, I'm not thinking anything of it. You know what I mean?

[Morgan]

But if it's like a minion and then all of a sudden you get a reindeer.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Killer]

I mean around here in caught like over an inch.

[Morgan]

This is all Dover.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

That was so much fun. We were like sprinting. We were sprinting away from the one house and Morgan was like 10ft in front of me and she turns around, she's sprinting, she's like, hater. And I'm like. And I try to jump over it and I didn't get enough speed.

[Morgan]

I literally like it's falling a two by four into the ditch.

[Killer]

Just ate it.

[Morgan]

We did take a yield sign.

[Becky Hater]

Oh yeah, I jumped out of them.

[Morgan]

I used to be. I can't.

[Becky Hater]

There has to be some statute of limitations to this, right? Because it was more than 10 years ago. Yeah, I was like a sign stealer. Like a. Like my. Like. Yeah, like so we. I jumped on the back of a truck and I fell off.

[Morgan]

It is in my nephew's right now.

[Killer]

Oh, love that. Family heirloom at this point.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

It's hanging up in his room.

[Killer]

I love that.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Well, so we don't do that anymore though. So. No, we grew up a little bit.

[Killer]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Buy your tickets if you haven't yet. Get them though. We'll be sold out by the end of the month. I' speaking that into existence. So this is your sign.

[Becky Hater]

I lived in Ocean City, Maryland for a summer. Because that's what you did.

[Killer]

No, I never did that.

[Becky Hater]

Okay. That's what people without kids did. They moved to a beach town to live for the summer in between college.

[Killer]

No, that's. That's privilege.

[Becky Hater]

I know that that's privilege, but I worked down there. Like I got a job in Ocean City, Maryland.

[Killer]

But you said that's what people did. Nobody did that.

[Becky Hater]

Yes, people do that.

[Killer]

Yes, people.

[Becky Hater]

People move to beach towns to work

[Killer]

for the giving up or 1%.

[Becky Hater]

No, it's not people literally like people that work in Ocean City, Maryland.

[Killer]

People that are listening to this podcast. Did not do that.

[Becky Hater]

No, it's that's not a privileged. That's not like a privileged thing to do. You're working.

[Morgan]

You're.

[Becky Hater]

Because like you're following the money. Beach towns make a lot of money in the. In the summer. People make their entire year salary working bartending at a beach town for the summer. I did it between my undergrad and my master's. I lived with Kim and Spence.

[Killer]

Kim, like your ex girlfriend?

[Becky Hater]

Yes. Yeah, we had so much fun.

[Morgan]

There were like three houses of ESU people.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Down in Ocean City. Danny and I lived in Roboth at the time.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, we're that.

[Morgan]

Remember? You remember?

[Killer]

Yeah. Obviously, because it was when I went to live at the beach.

[Becky Hater]

I had a one night stand with this girl and.

[Killer]

Have you had a lot of one night stands?

[Becky Hater]

I've had a.

[Morgan]

A few.

[Killer]

Will you tell the orgy story?

[Becky Hater]

No, I want to tell this story first. So it was after Kim and I broke up.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

And I was devastated. I was so upset. I went to visit Morgan in Rehoboth. We went to the Purple Parrot and I was standing there.

[Killer]

You know who used to work there?

[Becky Hater]

Who?

[Killer]

Tom from Dude Dads used to work at the Purple Parrot. Yes. And he always talks about it. It's a gay bar or like a gay. Yeah, yeah, he used to work there.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. So it's not a gay bar, it's a gay town. So like every.

[Morgan]

No, Purple Parrot is a gay bar. And it is an original Pink Pony Club place.

[Killer]

I just learned this.

[Morgan]

Pink Pony Club?

[Killer]

Yeah. What is that?

[Morgan]

Do you know the Pink Pony Club?

[Becky Hater]

I'm gonna keep on dancing at the Pink Pony Club. The Pink Pony Club is.

[Killer]

I just learned. She was last year.

[Becky Hater]

So it means like. Like a place where people are free to be themselves.

[Killer]

What. What means?

[Becky Hater]

Pink Pony Club. That's what the song's about.

[Killer]

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[Morgan]

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[Becky Hater]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

[Morgan]

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[Killer]

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[Becky Hater]

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[Becky Hater]

Anywho, I was standing in the pink or the purple parrot with my friends and I saw this girl looking at me from my peripherals and I said, guys, that girl's looking at me. And then they all said, becky, you think everyone's looking at you? She's not looking at you. And I said 50 shot if they

[Morgan]

actually are though, right?

[Becky Hater]

I said, okay. And then I was like, I'm gonna go talk to her. And I turn around and she was standing right behind me.

[Killer]

And then, and then you her.

[Becky Hater]

And then she said, I said, do you want to come home with us? And she said, I gotta ask my parents. She was there on vacation. It's not because she was young. She would like, she was

[Killer]

obviously.

[Becky Hater]

And like I, I was also 22. So it wasn't like, yeah, yeah. Like we were.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

And so her parents let her come home with us. And it was, it was a one bedroom apartment. And like it was so funny because like we were at Danny's apartment and the girl was like, do you want to go for a walk? And I was like, like, yeah. And so like we left the house. I was like, is this, is it really all this easy? Like, is this really easy?

[Morgan]

Well, cuz you're in like a serial relationship type of.

[Becky Hater]

Cuz I don't like, I'm never like single like that, you know.

[Killer]

So why is it okay for you, but it's not okay for me?

[Becky Hater]

You're allowed to do whatever you want, sweetie.

[Killer]

But she doesn't get for it. Everybody was the sex good. Do you remember everybody on Becky?

[Becky Hater]

But I also. It's not men, so.

[Killer]

But Anyway, there's been.

[Morgan]

There's a mess.

[Killer]

Have been some men.

[Becky Hater]

True. We got back to the house after we went for our walk, and I was like, morgan, I was like, I need the bedroom.

[Morgan]

And she was Danny's apartment, not mine. And you kicked Danielle out of her bedroom.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, and I kicked him out of

[Morgan]

the bedroom on the couch in the living room.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, I had a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. She made me do really weird stuff. Like, that's how you always know that, like, the girl's straight or it's never hooked up with her. Someone is like, when they're one, super vocal about things because, like, a lot of straight girls think that, like, from watching porn, that's what, like, men want. And men could want that. But, like, that's typically not how two girls hook up. And then, like, after we were done hooking up, we were like laying there and I was like, hey, can I ask you something? Or I was like, can I ask you something? She's like, yeah. I asked her what my name was and she didn't remember. And it was so awkward and it was so funny.

[Killer]

And she said, you remember hers

[Becky Hater]

right now? No, I did. Then I don't remember what her name was.

[Morgan]

She made sure what she looks like.

[Becky Hater]

Hey, girl.

[Morgan]

I can literally picture her face.

[Becky Hater]

But it was so funny because she was like, I need to tell you something. And I'm always like, does she have an std?

[Morgan]

Like, what?

[Killer]

She have a boyfriend?

[Becky Hater]

She had a boyfriend.

[Killer]

I remember this story.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, she had a boyfriend. She never hooked up with a girl before.

[Killer]

Okay, so is it cheating if you 100? Okay, yeah.

[Becky Hater]

But it was funny because I texted her like a couple weeks later and asked. I said I was gonna be in Philly if she wanted to grab dinner. She's like, is this what girls do? Like, I'm like, like, yeah, yeah, like this.

[Killer]

Did you. Did she go to dinner?

[Becky Hater]

No, we never really. We never saw each other again.

[Killer]

I hope she reaches out after this. I want to see her.

[Becky Hater]

I for.

[Morgan]

I forget what.

[Becky Hater]

I had her saved in my phone as I should have reach out.

[Killer]

You texted her later on to ask her to go to dinner is so funny to me.

[Morgan]

Why?

[Killer]

You hooked up with her one time. Of course she's freaked out and she's not going to go to dinner with you.

[Becky Hater]

I'm nice.

[Killer]

Well, nobody said you weren't nice.

[Becky Hater]

She probably married that boy. I think he was in the military.

[Morgan]

I don't think she was saying like, let's go to dinner and then let's

[Killer]

no, no, I don't think so. I think that's even funnier though is that she's just like hitting somebody up because she'll go meet fans and stuff, like, and just have a good time.

[Morgan]

I'm.

[Becky Hater]

I was talking to my. I have like a Patreon now of people and we have like group chats and I love that. And we have like a monthly meeting and if you want to join my little private group, I do do Sunday Resets where we talk about life and just all the things and it's a really amazing [e-mail] Becky Hater. Anyway, I was talking to the group, I'm like. And they're all coming to the shows and I'm like, well, I want to see you guys before, like, can I just come out and see you when you're waiting in line? They're like, we don't know.

[Morgan]

I'm like, aren't you supposed to tell us that?

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, I'm like, what? I was like, am I allowed? And that's why I texted you. We need to get lanyards so I could really walk everywhere.

[Killer]

No, we're. We're doing lanyards for crew and like, like us. And then, and then.

[Becky Hater]

But like, is that weird? Like, no, it's not like you, you couldn't do it?

[Killer]

No, I, I can't do it but. Well, I also have like a ton of podcasts and stuff to record before the show. So like I'm doing that. But yeah, you can do it. And then we'll have the crew lanyards and then we're doing separate lanyards for people who did vip. So they'll have a different one that looks different. Cuz I want just like if I'm recording, just don't bring anybody back. But like I'll. Maybe I'll come say hi too.

[Becky Hater]

I'm not bringing you with me. These are my friends. Anyway, I was thinking also in the spots that are possible, like maybe grabbing a drink after. Yeah, you could come to that if you want.

[Killer]

No.

[Becky Hater]

Okay.

[Killer]

Because we actually can't. And I'm going to tell you why. Sandra gets me. So the way tour is set up, we fly to the first location as soon as the show ends. There is no we have to leave. We have a six hour drive and we need to be in the next city within that six hours. Like there is no.

[Becky Hater]

So there's Houston. Houston. I'll be able to. Because I'm not going with wherever you're

[Killer]

going to the next one After Houston.

[Becky Hater]

In Houston. I'll meet you guys at the bar.

[Killer]

What do you do for a living now?

[Morgan]

I work in marketing or hospital.

[Killer]

Oh, cool. Okay. I won't ask specifics because what's the point? Privacy. No, that's cool. That's really cool.

[Morgan]

Yeah, they're located back in Baltimore. I just, like, work with physicians. I work remote. I just go into the office one day a month.

[Killer]

Wow. That's amazing. Good for you. So do you like it?

[Morgan]

I mean, yeah, it's challenging in its own way. Like, it's something different than what I've ever done before.

[Killer]

Okay.

[Morgan]

I've been in healthcare for, like, 10 years almost, but I was, like, on the patient side. So for the last, like, three years, I've been on the marketing, like, administration side. So it's a lot different. Yeah, but. Yeah, no, I enjoy it.

[Killer]

What's it like being friends with Becky?

[Morgan]

Have you ever sat on the edge of a cliff that like. Yeah, yeah, kind of like that. But so, like, it's thrilling, but, like, you can be a little scared sometimes.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Killer]

For.

[Morgan]

For other people. I mean, I don't feel scared, but okay.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Killer]

I always wonder about your friendship dynamics with other people. You know,

[Becky Hater]

I guess

[Morgan]

Becky's, like, one of the most, like, reliable people I think I've ever known in my life.

[Killer]

Easily.

[Morgan]

Like, I don't think if I were to ever, like. Well, I mean, if I needed her, she would be there. Like, she would not ask questions. She would just say, where do you need me and when, and it would just be like, okay, I'll get there.

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Which is cool. Which is really, really cool. My parents love her.

[Becky Hater]

I love your parents. And Uncle Mark.

[Morgan]

And Uncle Mark.

[Becky Hater]

There's these pictures. This one time Morgan and I went to visit her. So her nana and what's her. Connie, their sisters and Aunt Connie. They live in Florida. When their backyards touch. And we would go visit them and

[Killer]

then we were so sweet.

[Morgan]

Yeah. They bought corner property so that they could have, like, a little secret passageway from, like, one backyard to the other. And they had happy hours every single day.

[Becky Hater]

Every day.

[Morgan]

Every day at 5 o', clock, there's

[Becky Hater]

pictures of me in bed with them, drunk. And like, they're like.

[Morgan]

Yeah, like my second cousins. Yeah, they're hysterical.

[Becky Hater]

I carried them to bed. It was so much fun. And then me and Morgan snuck on a yacht.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Killer]

Did you go for a ride or you just.

[Becky Hater]

It was a parked yacht. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Neighborhood had, like, a yacht, like a marina in the back. And we just used to, like, hop the Fences and just go in. Tallest one on like the top. Yeah.

[Killer]

And just hang out.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. And drink.

[Killer]

That's kind of cool.

[Becky Hater]

We have literally really lived so many lives.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Killer]

I was just telling somebody about how you used to put alcohol in a shoe and drink it. I can't remember who it was, but I was like, oh, yeah.

[Becky Hater]

Morgan used to take shots and chase it with grass. If she didn't have a. I did

[Morgan]

do that for a while.

[Killer]

Like from the ground.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah. You know when you're like blacked out on the verge of it, you'll just kind of do something.

[Becky Hater]

She also punched me in the stomach to make me throw up once at a party so I could say she

[Morgan]

was like, she was sick and she was like I drank too much.

[Killer]

Did you take a shot of each other's breast milk?

[Morgan]

Milk?

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, I drank yours.

[Killer]

You also drank mine.

[Becky Hater]

I didn't have breast milk.

[Morgan]

She didn't have any.

[Becky Hater]

I had a miscarriage.

[Killer]

Right.

[Becky Hater]

Oh, sorry. This one time.

[Killer]

I need a quail immediately.

[Becky Hater]

This one time. Sorry. I feel like I'm talking so much. So sorry if you guys are getting bored. But this one time, me and Morgan were both hooking up with these guys

[Morgan]

and you're going crackawana.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, the Crackawanna house. And it was like 4 o' clock in the morning and we both walked out.

[Killer]

Out.

[Becky Hater]

We both had black sports bras and red shorts on. And we just walked out at the same time into our hallway and just looked at each other. I just started dying laughing.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Was going to the bathroom and we just both turned around.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Shut the doors and went back in. Yeah. It was so funny.

[Killer]

But you hooking up with men is seriously, you know, I'd do it again. You would?

[Morgan]

Maybe you've won it. I don't think so there.

[Becky Hater]

Maybe.

[Killer]

Some of the people are so nasty. Yeah. Like what, what was your describe, Becky? I don't want you to do it. I want. Morgan can describe type in college.

[Morgan]

I'm just going to show you something.

[Killer]

Thank you.

[Morgan]

I'm just going to.

[Killer]

Did you have like a long term relationship with man?

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, with Dustin.

[Morgan]

Dustin. Yeah.

[Killer]

Do you still talk to him?

[Becky Hater]

No, no, no. I was hooking up my. With my athletic trainer, which is illegal. Like you can't do that.

[Morgan]

And yeah, he's winning like big title.

[Killer]

Like, let me see.

[Becky Hater]

I hooked up with a lot of people. Most of the men that I hooked up with in college I feel like were pretty attractive. But this is probably why Becky in

[Killer]

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[Morgan]

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[Morgan]

So, but K. One of the things, like, what was it? We returned back to ESU after we graduated, like four years later at least. Cuz that's when we did like a homecoming thing. And we were walking around the bars and we were introducing ourselves and like, like people were like people that were in school at that time were like, you guys are hollering hater. Like they were still talking about it four years later.

[Killer]

Because you guys had a legacy there.

[Becky Hater]

We did.

[Morgan]

I mean, we're. We're talking about the town cops used to call us and be like, hey, we just arrested your friend. Can you come get him?

[Killer]

And you're like, yeah, I guess.

[Morgan]

And we're like, this.

[Becky Hater]

Or this is the fifth call we've gotten to your house. We're going to have to come the next time.

[Morgan]

Yeah. For like normal boys.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, man. What a good life and fun life. Morgan and I also went to Vegas

[Morgan]

for New Year's when we were 21.

[Killer]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

That was quite the time.

[Morgan]

We saw a Vichy for New Year's. We saw.

[Becky Hater]

For New Year's Eve we saw Vichy

[Morgan]

and Skrillex and yeah.

[Becky Hater]

Spent a lot of money on fake drugs.

[Killer]

Fake drugs?

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, we got bamboozled. It was fun dip. Yep.

[Killer]

Did you snort it?

[Becky Hater]

No, we ate it. Or I ate it.

[Killer]

Like you realized drugs anymore, so. But you used to do drugs.

[Becky Hater]

Did I used to do drugs?

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Hell yeah, brother dabbled.

[Killer]

Dabbled a little.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, it was. It was fun. Safely as safely.

[Killer]

Not everyone can do that. I think some people can play around and never touch it again. And other people.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, we don't.

[Morgan]

I feel like when you have that much of a chaotic. Like, I don't want to say chaotic, but, like, man, we going. Going for four years, it's hard to, like, pinpoint a specific time that, like, we were wild.

[Becky Hater]

Remember when that brawl broke out in that basement and I had to pin you up against a wall so that neither of us got, like, stumbled.

[Killer]

Have you guys ever gotten to in a fight and then became friends again?

[Becky Hater]

Hell, yeah, we did. Morgan used to be homophobic.

[Morgan]

I was not homophobic.

[Becky Hater]

She was homophobic.

[Morgan]

Listen, listen. I was not homophobic. First off, the reason I was so mad at you was because you told me you weren't gay for, like, a whole year. And so when people would be like, she's gay, she's gay. And I'd be like, no, she's not. She told. Why would she lie to me? I'm her best friend. Why would she lie to me? And then you started dating a girl, and you were like, you told me, and I was like, I've been defending you. I'm an idiot. Everyone else knew. I didn't know.

[Becky Hater]

Whoops.

[Killer]

Were you upset that she was gay?

[Morgan]

No, I wasn't upset that you were gay. I was mad that she, like, wouldn't tell me or, like, that she felt like she couldn't tell me. Probably.

[Killer]

Well, maybe she didn't realize either.

[Morgan]

Yeah, you didn't realize?

[Becky Hater]

No. When I started dating my girlfriend, well, I dated. I told everyone I was. Yeah, I didn't.

[Morgan]

No, I'm sorry. This was when you were just, like, hooking up with someone.

[Becky Hater]

I was, like, hooking up with someone. Testing the water. But then I ended up not. I thought I wasn't gay. And then I was like, oh,

[Killer]

what made you think you weren't gay?

[Becky Hater]

Probably the pressure of society.

[Killer]

Like, you were like, I. I could be with a man. It'd be fine.

[Becky Hater]

Or like, I. Like, it's not worth the trouble of it. Like, it's not worth, like, the embarrassment, the, like, chaos of life that comes with it.

[Morgan]

Like, ESU is probably the best place for you to go in that.

[Becky Hater]

Because reason to feel that. I mean, yeah, besides society, but, yeah,

[Morgan]

I mean, it's a very, like, high.

[Becky Hater]

But once I came out, I was like, there's a queer community there night and day. Yeah, I just, like, turned a switch on, and I was like, oh, yeah, now she's gay.

[Morgan]

This kind of fits. She moved to the city, and now she's gay.

[Becky Hater]

Any other questions?

[Killer]

No, just. Just living vicariously through, like, a. A real college experience, you know?

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. Yeah, I Am so privileged in just the way that we lived. College and, like, the experience, like, yeah,

[Morgan]

I can't do that now.

[Becky Hater]

I don't think I will cherish for sure.

[Killer]

Not.

[Becky Hater]

I will cherish those four years for the rest. Five. Five years. Morgan and I did an extra semester at college, and I lived on the couch in. In a room that she rented from our friend. It was so. And then the house got condemned, so we got kicked out. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, the fire marshal came when I was taking a nap.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And they were like, you gotta move out. You can't be here, man.

[Becky Hater]

We used to watch bench warmers all the time.

[Morgan]

Wow.

[Killer]

What a wild ride.

[Morgan]

So then we moved into another house. And you lived on the futon. Yeah, in that room. And then we split the rent. The rent was 300amonth. Yeah.

[Killer]

So y' all just split it? Yeah, two ways. Three ways. Ways.

[Becky Hater]

Two ways.

[Morgan]

Two ways. And then they found out and they kept my security deposit.

[Becky Hater]

But, dude, we used to shut down the one bar, and the owner would drive us home and, like, us. Yeah, man. We literally had the time of our life.

[Morgan]

Brought us home a lot.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, the cops did bring us home a lot.

[Morgan]

Not in trouble.

[Killer]

I don't think that kids today will ever have that type of experience.

[Becky Hater]

Morgan and I used to. The one party has house, never charged to get in. So me and Morgan would stand outside and charge together and then take the money.

[Killer]

Wait, that's kind of iconic.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Killer]

That's so smart.

[Becky Hater]

You're like, I'm just.

[Killer]

This is my side hustle.

[Becky Hater]

We used to just do such weird.

[Morgan]

I'll never forget, my brother came to visit us once, and we were, like, sophomores, so we were going to house parties. Like, we weren't going to the bars or anything. And he went to University of Delaware. So, like, big school, little fish, big pond. We were big fish in a little. You know. So it was like. Like, completely a different vibe. And he'll never forget. It was actually funny. Ryan Brennan came with him, too. We walked into a party, and, like, the whole party just, like, turned and, like, shouted our names and everything. And my brother was like, what the hell have you done here? Like, what is going on?

[Killer]

Making your mark, Just making your money.

[Morgan]

I don't know. This is just normal.

[Becky Hater]

And he's like, I'm trying to. It's so. One thing I regret is not keeping a journal, because I. We had so many fun, ridiculous, insane nights that it saddens me that I can't remember anything.

[Morgan]

Have you ever talked about the bush?

[Becky Hater]

No.

[Killer]

What's a bush?

[Becky Hater]

I built a part. I built a city in my woods.

[Morgan]

What?

[Becky Hater]

I literally built like struck like houses in my woods and like like three or four houses.

[Morgan]

Bars. Yeah.

[Killer]

Like are you.

[Becky Hater]

How did you have time to build the city in the world? We did it in the summer.

[Killer]

But I feel like you should go on naked and afraid built like it.

[Becky Hater]

So it's probably like a. A 25x25 treehouse with like a front deck, a pavilion, another house behind the pavilion and then catwalks to all of them. A bar, the pig pen.

[Killer]

So okay, so. But how did you explain this to your friends? Like where did this idea come from?

[Morgan]

The bush.

[Killer]

What did you set? You were like we're going to hang out here.

[Becky Hater]

Like what was the intention year people parties at this place. I did a beer Olympics. I did the bush Olympics. We would have 20 plus kegs and like over almost 30 teams for a like a well put together and organized six.

[Killer]

Just pictures of this thing.

[Becky Hater]

Yes it was.

[Killer]

We are gonna need them for the socials.

[Becky Hater]

Sane Dan. Shout out Dan. Uncle Dan hit like him and I. That's what we did our summers. Like we spent. Spent all of our summers building down at the bush. We would find people that were taking down old decks and then repurpose that wood and build like.

[Killer]

Do you think it's still there? Should we go visit?

[Becky Hater]

It's. It's definitely.

[Killer]

It is so fascinating to me to hear this. Like you had a purpose. Like you were just like I this is what I'm gonna do.

[Becky Hater]

Yes.

[Killer]

I was worried about boyfriends. Like I cannot even like how fun would that be to like not have to worry about anything. And you're just building a city in your backyard yard.

[Becky Hater]

Like we like my best memories are from just like because Mike, my like best friend that passed away like was down there building it with us too. And like we would work all day and then just hang out there and drink. We set up like the whole place was powered by a generator. So right when you turn the generator on, like the spotlights and music and everything just turned on. There was like literally hundreds of people.

[Killer]

I need to see pictures of this thing.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Killer]

How's this the first time we're hearing about. Yeah. Why I've never heard of this. Like this is giving like Sims. You know what I mean? Like you build a village or whatever.

[Morgan]

Sell that property.

[Killer]

Wait, this was at your house?

[Becky Hater]

My parents property? Yeah.

[Morgan]

Up in New Jersey.

[Killer]

Like she had like this is like college. Like you did this in like it was during College.

[Becky Hater]

During summers of college, I would do it at my parents house.

[Killer]

So because you guys went to esu, was there like a sort of local population for like nearby states so more people could go there?

[Becky Hater]

ESU was only 25 minutes from my parents house.

[Morgan]

Yeah. It was just like on the other side, like.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Killer]

What did your parents say about this party? They didn't care.

[Becky Hater]

They eventually started caring. It got. They got out of control. Like it was absolutely insane.

[Killer]

And were you the only. Because you're the youngest of five, did your. Did your siblings do anything like this?

[Becky Hater]

No.

[Killer]

No. So like you did this?

[Morgan]

No, but three out of the four were. They were there.

[Becky Hater]

They would have teams.

[Morgan]

Alex was on my team. Team, I think like two years in a row. Yeah.

[Killer]

Did she go to ESU too, your older sister?

[Becky Hater]

No.

[Morgan]

No, no.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. Band bush parties. People was always down there. Yeah. People would find me. Like I'd run into people, they'd be like, holy. Like I was at your party. Like down at the bush. I'm like, yeah, that's crazy.

[Killer]

Should we create a bush party? Yeah. I. I don't know. I feel like on the 20 acres we could just go. We need to go build a bush party on my 20 acres before I leave Delaware.

[Becky Hater]

Okay.

[Killer]

Come on. And then I'll sell it.

[Becky Hater]

We can host a. A beer Olympics. That's what it all stemmed out of.

[Killer]

I drank wine last night.

[Morgan]

She said, party girl.

[Killer]

Moscato.

[Morgan]

Okay.

[Killer]

Yeah, I'm sophisticated now.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

What do they call, like a. A wine connoisseur?

[Killer]

A wine connoisseur.

[Becky Hater]

A wine snob. Oh, what you say?

[Killer]

Wine snob?

[Becky Hater]

No. She's going to become a sommelier.

[Killer]

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[Killer]

I remember going to wine tasting at a winery with my friend when we were like nine and they gave us grape juice to try cuz we were like with the adults, you know. What the were you doing at a winery at?

[Morgan]

I don't know.

[Killer]

Our friend's mom took us, me and Shelby. It's the same one. I would practice making out with Electro. I'm down to create a wine with you for karma and chaos. Build a bush party. Gr party thing. And then the Bush 2.0. Yeah, this is the graduated version.

[Becky Hater]

I can't wait for my kid to ask me to build him a treehouse and maybe like here we go.

[Killer]

The next generation.

[Becky Hater]

The next generation of the bush.

[Morgan]

Yeah, literally going to be be Kona, Becks and Styles. Yeah, literally.

[Becky Hater]

We tried getting Morgan to name her kid Porter. Cuz Bex is a beer. Kona is a beer and we wanted her to name a kid but Danny

[Morgan]

works in the school system and said we have a porter and his nickname is Porter Potty. And I was like I can't do that.

[Killer]

Oh no.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

I love the name Porter.

[Morgan]

I think it's really.

[Killer]

I do too. But it was on Kim's baby name list so I've hated it because.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, that's funny because I, I think it was on our baby name. It was and I remember it was because of Revenge.

[Killer]

Revenge.

[Becky Hater]

The TV show Revenge.

[Killer]

Oh, funny. Where did you get the name Styles? Because I'm obsessed with it.

[Morgan]

I saw it on one list literally once and I put it on like I had a note tab and I just kept putting them on.

[Killer]

I still have one and I'm done having kids but I'm still have.

[Morgan]

Maybe I'll dip into it one day.

[Killer]

Yeah, because I have names like that. Like do you not like that but like the, the vibe?

[Morgan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Killer]

I wish that I would have named Elliot his first name, Elliot, cuz it just doesn't fit him. But like as I got had more kids I got more bold about like their name choices.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Killer]

And I prefer those cuz you're never going to meet another Lux. You're probably never going to meet another Creed or Rio or Verse or Valley. And Lincoln was not popular when I named Lincoln. Lincoln. But that was from Prison Break.

[Morgan]

Good show. Yeah, yeah, good show, good show.

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

My miniature D's name is Soup Rio.

[Killer]

You have a dog named Rio?

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Killer]

Do you know where I got that name from? Good girls. You remember that show where they were laundering money, washing money.

[Morgan]

You know what's funny is I watched that while I was on my honeymoon and we stayed at a place called Rio Paradido which is why we called our dog Rio.

[Killer]

Oh, I kind of love that though. And then my friend Taylor, she went to not Turks and Caicos, Aruba maybe. I don't know where they, where were they got engaged aged was called Grace Bay. So they named their daughter their middle name Grace because of like.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I like that.

[Killer]

Super cool.

[Morgan]

I like that.

[Killer]

And Bex came from what?

[Becky Hater]

That's what Leah's nickname is for me.

[Killer]

So you wanted to name the baby after me. I love that.

[Becky Hater]

Vex.

[Killer]

Yeah, Vex. But sometimes I call you Bex.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Killer]

On accident and then I'm like.

[Becky Hater]

It's like some people do call me backs.

[Killer]

Yeah, I just, I feel bad because

[Becky Hater]

I'm like a senior.

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Baby backs.

[Becky Hater]

That's Junior.

[Killer]

Baby backs. Yeah, yeah.

[Becky Hater]

Mr. Mr. Bex. Morgan, do you have any questions for the group?

[Morgan]

No, I thought I was just coming to hang out.

[Becky Hater]

She did. I put her on the spot. Also fun thing with Morgan is we and I think I've talked about Morgan's like a part of that friend group I have from college where we are very intentional with staying friends. Like we do things multiple times a year and yeah, I was going to

[Killer]

ask about that cuz I have a 16 year old and he, he was making the decision between just try to follow the bouncing ball here. He's trying to make a decision between staying at the school he's at or going to a private school. And one of the deciding factors was leaving his friends. And I said I hate to tell you this bud, but like your friends for life are going to come from college, not from high school. So what is it that you guys do differently with your college friends that you maybe do or don't do from high school.

[Becky Hater]

I don't think that necessarily your college, like, you don't stay friends with your high school friends because you can stay, like.

[Killer]

Yeah, no, I think that he's going to stay friends with them. I just think that he do meet

[Becky Hater]

the most important people of your life in college. I would agree.

[Killer]

What I meant

[Becky Hater]

it takes a lot of inconveniencing yourself to stay friends with people for a long time, right? Like we. I mean, especially getting 10 girls together that all have family, like, you know, that all have responsibilities.

[Morgan]

I was gonna say with spouses and kids, there's 38. Eight.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah. There's a lot of kids in that friend group.

[Morgan]

A lot of kids.

[Becky Hater]

It's just planning, picking a date, setting it in your calendar and not bailing on it. Like, if something comes up, you're not over scheduling yourself. Like, we pick dates, like months, like

[Morgan]

a year in February, every single year.

[Becky Hater]

And then we'll always plan something, like in the fall too. It's kind of.

[Morgan]

It's hard, cuz, like, right. You live with these people for four years. Like, so you're seeing them 24, seven. I mean, 365, like, unless you're on break. So getting into that habit, you almost have to continue that habit afterwards, right? So, like, making the effort and like you said, inconveniencing yourself. And like, so I've always been the one that lived so far away, right? Like, I was always in Delaware, so I was always three, three and a half hours from anyone. So, like, I did miss a lot of them, but they all, like, live within like an hour and a half, an hour and 45 of each other. So it was like. But it made it harder on me because I, like, get that fomo. I'm like, no, I want to be there. I want to, like, so I mean, you just have to, like to like, set aside the time and just. I don't know, I mean, like, we talk in a. In a group chat and like, you could kind of go dormant for a little bit. And like, it's funny because if you go dormant for like three or four days, someone will text and be like, hey, just heard from you in a few days. Are you good? Yeah, like, because we'll just, like, notice, but it's just. You got to be present.

[Killer]

Intentional.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah, it's really intentional. And you have to let people go through life, right? Like, even Morgan and my friendship has. Has had its ebbs and flows of distance and closeness because of. We were living just Completely separate lives or different lives or, or whatever it is. But it's been really beautiful just the like us having kids and it's like I feel like has grown like more branches of our friendship.

[Killer]

Like a new start or like a different era of the friendship.

[Becky Hater]

100%.

[Killer]

Yeah, I could see that. That's cool.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But like, I don't know, I think you have friends from home too that, that like you're extremely close with. But I mean even with like my friends from home, like I have three really, really good friends from home that I've known since I was 6, 8. And you're still friends with them? Yeah, I still talk to them. Like there's a group chat of my friend Sue, Danielle and I. They had two girls and I clearly had a boy, but we all had kids within five months of each other.

[Killer]

Oh wow.

[Morgan]

So the same thing of like that little circle of like Becky and Amanda we kind of had there. So it just. Yeah, it's giving grace when grace needs to be given and just understanding that like we all go through different things and like, like you had kids earlier so like people should give you grace to be like, well you didn't get to do some of the things that we did. But like it's, it's just, it's different. You gotta like take them for what they are and know that people will come back if they're meant to come back. And so I mean to Ellie it's like help you make the effort. Like I have a friend that I went did gymnastics with since I was like 4 or 5. She lives in Florida. She's lived in Florida since she was 10. I still talk to her.

[Killer]

Oh wow.

[Morgan]

But like we just follow each other. Like social media is great for that. Right.

[Becky Hater]

Like feel like you're staying connected with people.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Like I know about her family and I know all their kids names and stuff like that. But like, I mean I don't see her. I haven't seen her since I was probably 12 years old.

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Becky Hater]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But like it's just more intentional.

[Killer]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Becky Hater]

And a lot of inconvenience. Like how many like 1 year old birthday parties that you have to go

[Killer]

to and like you're not in that stage of your life or whatever.

[Becky Hater]

It's just a lot, it's a lot of driving. It's not like we all live in the same area. It would be different if we all lived in the same town. Right.

[Morgan]

Like yeah, we're.

[Becky Hater]

You're spread out by a couple hours where it's still, you're still able to drive there, but it's still like, you know, a couple hour drive. It's not like just driving 20 minutes down the road.

[Morgan]

Two hour party. Yeah. It's like I'm going to be in the car for six and a half hours for a two hour party.

[Killer]

Right.

[Morgan]

And it's a full day.

[Killer]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And then it's like now that we have kids, we kind of understand like our, our friends perspectives of like, oh, maybe they didn't come to something. And it's like, okay, well now we understand like what it's like traveling with a 3 month old or like a 6 month old.

[Becky Hater]

I feel like that our group of college friends, which is interesting because we weren't really close in college, we became close after. Not us, the other girls. Like, they're all very caring people and intentional people. So if some someone's going through something in life, like they're the first ones sending you food, they're the first ones sending you a gift. They're the first ones like showing up if you need to too, if you need them. I think it's just finding like good people too to like surround yourself with and like all of those people are really good humans at their core, which

[Killer]

makes things a little bit easier.

[Becky Hater]

Nurturing a friendship a lot easier. Like Morgan said, like even the past couple months when I was, I've been going through my. Like everyone noticed and they all texted me on the side like, hey, just thinking about you. Hey, just checking in on you. So it's just, just, I don't know, it's. Life isn't meant to be lived alone. And like building a community and having that safety allows for you to like go through life a lot smoother knowing that you have that support. So inconveniencing yourself and just being the person you want other people to be.

[Killer]

Love that. Becky will tag Morgan in some pictures.

[Becky Hater]

Some pictures of.

[Killer]

Some pictures of you guys together.

[Becky Hater]

Or even like you probably have pictures with Kale too.

[Killer]

For I think you were at my, Were you at my college graduation? Like the how my house. Okay, well, I know we have pictures. You guys have pictures from my wedding.

[Becky Hater]

From your fourth of July party.

[Killer]

From my fourth of July party. And then you guys can post pictures from like college and stuff. That will be really fun. We'll do a little carousel and we'll tag you.

[Becky Hater]

Oh, the titty pick. Oh, the Jersey Shore pick. Yes.

[Killer]

I don't know what that means, but love you all. Thank you so much for being here. Don't forget to get your tour four tickets too.

[Becky Hater]

Dolls.

[Killer]

Okay, guys, we're back. You asked for it. And we're delivering. Killer is going on tour. We're super excited for The Fatherless Behavior Tour. 23 cities, three countries, all in one summer. And you guys can check out tour dates and see if we're coming to a city near you on Kalery.com. and if you want early access to information and announcements, head over to Patreon because you might get it before everyone else.

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