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Foreign.
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Good morning, farm family. How are you today? The sun is shining bright, so come on out and play. Good morning, good evening, good day, good night to all of our karmaroos.
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Did you make up that song?
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No, It's a song that one, like Bex has like a farm that he plays with. You press the button and it's one of the songs.
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Love that for you. I love that. He can also come to our farm anytime now that we have a cow.
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I think maybe there's a farm closer with cows that he can go to. Over 300 cows to be exact.
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Yeah, but mine's a Highland cow.
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Okay, you said it's mean.
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He's not mean. He just throws horns sometimes.
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Say hello to the people.
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Hey everyone. Welcome to Atlanta.
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We are in Atlanta, Georgia. We drove here the longest four hour drive that there possibly was.
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It literally ended up being like six hours. Yeah, we had to leave the hotel by one. We didn't get here until 8 o'.
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Clock.
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Yeah, seven hours.
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Math is hard for you.
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I know math is difficult for me. I never claim to be good at it. Can we please talk about the show last night and how it was so chaotic?
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And before we talk about the show, I did get pulled over on my way down.
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You Need a lawyer.
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I need to get a lawyer. Because the guy was like, I should be arresting you right now.
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What?
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I started crying after you walked away because I was just overwhelmed and frustrated.
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I'm sorry.
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Well, yeah, that's. I mean, it's fine. I'm fine. It's my fault. I was speeding. But what was frustrating, I was doing 90 in a 65. It was 1am I was eight hours into my nine and a half hour drive. There was no one on the road. I was just cruising in Virginia.
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But did you like, did you zone out?
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I was just like in this. I was listening to my audio book. I like wasn't paying attention and not like dangerously like I was like, I just had driven for eight hours
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and
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like the cop, I saw him pull out. Instead of pressing the brake, I pressed the gas. So I went up to 96 and that's what he said. He clocked me at 90 and then I got faster and went up. So instead of just putting me at 90, he put me at 96 and I could go to jail for 30 days. Like they don't around with speeding there, so.
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Aiding and abetting.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Okay, I'll put money on your books. It'll be fine. I will visit you because I have to pick up Lincoln. So honestly, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. But like also you're not going to jail for speeding. Like be. So for real, what do you need the lawyer for? If I were you, I would not pay for a lawyer for that.
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I. Because when you get a lawyer, they lessen it to like a normal ticket so that you don't have like my car insurance won't go up.
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You can also do that without a lawyer.
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Dude, I don't.
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I'm not trying to retain a lawyer for this. It's gonna be like 5. 5.
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No, I think it's like 1500-2500, which still is like trash. Like, that's awful. I. That's in my mind what I think it's gonna cost.
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Okay. I mean, I know an attorney that is barred in Virginia if you need him.
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This is like really common, I guess. Like there's just like an influx of lawyers down there that just do this.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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So okay. Anyway, that's. But if there is any thing that will should really just show you how because you were like, oh, like you know, worried about if I was going to go to a show, if I was gonna bail. I was like, I'm not that person. I would never just. If Anything should prove that it is I me getting my ass in a car and driving nine and a half hours because my flight got canceled.
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No, I really appreciate you for that. Like I love you so much. And honestly at that point you could have just driven with Ike because Ike drove down here. So like he, you could have, but obviously he was already here. It just sucks cuz you both ended up having to drive.
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Yeah. Trash. Anyway, the show was so chaotic, but fun. It was so fun. Kelsey was great. So nice to see. Kayla.
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Kayla.
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Kayla.
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Kayla.
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Kayla.
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K K La Kayla. Kayla.
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Kayla. Kayla.
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No, it's not Kayla.
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Kayla.
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Kayla.
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I dated a Kayla. So it like.
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Can you just pronounce it correctly?
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I don't think I'm pronouncing it wrong.
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This is the way that you call me. Kaylin.
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Kaylin.
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Kaylin. My name is really weird to say. I get that. But like Kaylin and Kayla, I just
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honestly don't give a.
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Okay. But it was great to see her.
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It was really, it was so nice to see her. It was really funny. We invited this guy on stage and he was blacked out and we didn't know he was blacked out out. And then we had to kick him off and then I've agreed to not do lap dances anymore.
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You agreed to who?
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Myself.
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And then she gave a lap dance. But Kon thought that I was getting a lap dance. I don't know what. When he looked at me, it was a man.
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That's why I felt fine doing it.
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He. First of all, how would you feel if I gave a man a lap dance? Would you have been fine with it or would you have been. No consent.
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But I think it's different.
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You wouldn't have cared. I want to know from Kate, first of all, his girlfriend, wife, whoever she was, she was hot. So she was so hot.
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Yeah.
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I want to know from K Ron or his wife, when he looked at me, did he think I could dance? Like, did he look at me and was like yeah, she could get a laugh because like is so off.
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Yeah. But like yeah, yeah. So funny though because he thought. Thought it was Kale giving him the lap dance. And then when he found out it was me, he was disappointed.
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But no, like you give a good laugh.
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And then I told him to get the off my stage.
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But I loved K Ron and his wife. Like I loved.
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She was hot.
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She was hot. He. They were a good looking couple, like both together. They were good looking couples. So I loved them and.
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But then I ended up giving another man a lap dance. I Felt comfortable. Okay, so here's my issue. We can talk through this.
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This is therapy.
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Yeah.
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Becky and Kale.
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My thing is I know my boundaries. I know my relationship. I know I. Like, there is no one in this world that loves their significant other as much as I love Leah.
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I knew it. I knew it.
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What?
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I knew he didn't love me that much.
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Yeah, literally. There's no. There's, you know, defend yourself. It's impossible there. It is literally impossible for someone to love another human as much as I love Leah. And I know that and she knows that. And, like, she didn't give a. About the lap dances or anything, but, like, the Internet got in my head because, like, they were saying. Like, they were saying it was disrespectful and all that. And I know that it's not. And it's not like I'm, like, appeasing these people. It's. I don't want people to look at my relationship and feel that way because, like, that's not, like, what it is. And, like, I don't have to fucking give. Like, it is what it is. Like, it's not like, when I give a lap dance to a man, people aren't going to misconstrue that because, like, I'm a lesbian and I'm not attracted to that person. So, like, when Kelsey got the lap dance, no one's going to talk shit about, like, to her husband forgetting a lap dance from a girl because she has a husband, which is all double standards, but. So sorry.
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I get that. I get that.
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And I just don't. And, like, Leah's not used. Used to being involved and, like, people were tagging her and being like, you're okay with this? And, like, like, it's just not worth it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, like, Leah's not used to being dragged into the drama and socialite and, like, what for what?
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No, I get it. That's kind of how I feel about some things that I've posted online. Like, that's not. I don't want people to because then people are looking at me like a certain. Like, I'm bitter, I'm jealous, I'm this, I'm that. And it's like, no, I know what's going on, and it just is not worth, like, putting it out there publicly. So we all up sometimes. We're human. It's fine.
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So, Texas, you're welcome. You guys got the. The best of me.
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The best of Becky. I'm excited because this time next week, I will be on a flight Actually, when this episode airs, I will be packing for London. And the next time that I see you will be in London.
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Hell, yeah, brother.
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And we have not traveled internationally together at all. Yeah, every time. So there was another time where girls take Europe. The girls take Europe.
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Should we, like, cosplay when we go to Paris?
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Perry. Perry.
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Perry.
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Oh, Wait, that's a real sentence.
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Yeah, it's. My name is Becky.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I just counted in French.
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You did?
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Yeah.
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Why do you know that?
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I don't know.
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I have not been to.
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I'm doing this because I'm like, should we wear the beret?
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The beret. I have been to France, but I have not been to Paris.
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You're gonna.
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You. You're gonna hate it.
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I don't. I'm not a huge fan of Europe in general.
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You're gonna hate Paris.
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Oh, no doubt. No doubt. But there's a store that I'm going to, which is why I wanted to go.
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Oh.
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So we're taking a day trip to Paris because I want to go to the Louise Carmen store, which is, like, you go design your own planner and, like, notebook.
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What the. What are we doing?
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Whatever you want.
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Okay.
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Ike and I will go see the Eiffel Tower together.
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Ike is going like this behind the camera.
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Me and him will take, like, couples pictures at the Eiffel Tower. And you're gonna be just creating a planner.
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No, but, like, you know, wholesome things.
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Yeah, but I do, like, we're definitely gonna eat, like, a crepe under the food. Crepe under the.
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I won't be eating a crepe.
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Well, but gluten's different in Europe.
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Yes. I did get a message from people saying that the glute in there is so much different and that I most likely will be okay eating pasta over there.
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Yeah.
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But I'm more excited for the Indian food in London.
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That's a thing.
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Yeah.
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Interesting. It's actually, like, they're like. Allegedly, the Indian food is, like, the best there.
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Yeah.
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One thing is interesting to me. I see like I love Chinese food and I feel like the States have really good like Chinese food places and in London it always freaks me out. I always see people in like the UK doing like l Chinese food cuz it's big there too but it's different. Like they have french fries.
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Oh, I can have french fries?
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Not if they're breaded.
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Why would french fries be breaded?
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I don't know. Sometimes they put a coat on them to put them in the fryer.
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Oh true. I also like if they're cooked in the grease with of something else. I can't.
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How. How is the gluten free journey going since we last talked?
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Not good.
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Okay.
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Not good. It's not going well. I'm doing the best.
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I'm really proud of you for actually committing to it.
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I'm annoying myself because I feel like it's annoying to everybody else and I also feel like all I'm doing is complaining and talking about it but it's like such like I didn't even like I knew it was going to be hard but I didn't know it was gonna be this.
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I think that you should honestly be be complaining more.
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Thanks.
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I. I would like I. I don't think that. I think I would just live the rest of my life myself.
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Well, honestly I thought about it. If I'm being honest. I did think about it but it was at the point that I learned that it attacks your small intestine and you can get cancer.
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Okay.
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So it was at that point that
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I was like oh. Because like I had a friend who was an ex friend who everything was wrong with her. Everywhere we went it was well, I have this and I had that and I have and no proof. And it was the most annoying thing because I clocked it and I was like you don't even carry an EP like It was just like. It was weird. And so, like, I don't want to be that person.
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You're not, but that's what it feels like. It doesn't. I don't like becoming gluten free is, like, one of the hardest things ever.
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You. Mom and dad.
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Thanks mom and dad.
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Thanks mom and Dad, y'. All. It's genetic. So one of them gave it to me. Which one?
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Only one.
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I need to check my 23 in me also to see if it. I think it did say that I had a higher risk of celiac disease.
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Really?
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Yeah. I'm 99. Sure. Jinx. You owe me a soda.
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You said so.
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Did you?
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I said, wow.
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Oh,
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anyway, so funny. Last episode, I recorded half myself because
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I had to hop off.
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It was my fault. But you had to have an accident.
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It's nobody's fault.
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It was just life. Life sometimes, anyway. And so, for the first time, part of my. I did read people's questions secondarily, which there was a lot of really good questions, and I didn't get through all of them, but I asked Chat GBT to build me a quiz on you. And so I did the quiz. What?
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I'm going live.
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I did the quiz, but it, like, it lied. Like, the answers were wrong.
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Wait, Okay. I was wondering.
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So people. So. And so people were, like. People were, like, pissed about it.
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Pissed about what?
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That the questions were wrong.
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The answers were wrong. The answers were wrong. And the questions. I could probably bring it up because since I've already. Since I already did it, what kind
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of questions were there?
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Okay. So it asked the name of the sports store where you worked. And I said, dicks, and it said I was correct. And then everyone's like, no, it was Sports Authority. Yeah, but it told me I was correct, so I was pumped. I was like, hell, yeah. It asked which of Kale's children's middle names is also the first name of another one of her children. What? And it said. It said that it was Elliot. It said that, like, Creed was. Was eyes or. Yeah. Wow. I forgot what Elliot's real name was there for a second. Well, not real. You know what I mean? It said that his name was Isaac Creed.
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Isaac Creed Rivera.
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Yeah.
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Chat GPT got me up.
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Yeah, it. What was your first tattoo?
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The one on my back. To the world, you are one person, but to one person, you are the world. And it's Elliot's initials. I. ER oh, yeah.
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It said.
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And my boyfriend at the time broke up with me and said that he doesn't date with girls with tattoos.
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It said your first tattoo was a star on your wrist.
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I don't have a star on my body. What the fuck is Chat GPT talking about?
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I don't know. And then it asked what I did with you before I had like became
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a co host and make out.
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And it said that I worked behind the scenes for content and production.
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Oh, I love that. Okay, add that to your resume. If it's on Chat GPT, it must be true.
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Was your first car Toyota Sequoia?
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No, I never had a Sequoia in my life. My first car was a 2001 Nissan Sentra, candy apple red. Then I crashed it.
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Chaos is inevitable. It says that. It said that. That's your, like, tagline.
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I mean, it's kind of cute though. Chaos is inevitable. Inevitable.
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Inevitable.
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I can try my hardest and I could do all the things and I could be type A.
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Who was your first guest? I'm barely famous. And it said you were living in dover, Delaware when 16 and Pregnant aired it.
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No. And also if you go on Google and like search where I'm from, it says I'm from Nazareth, Pennsylvania. I literally lived in Nazareth.
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I literally put.
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I.
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My answer guess was Nazareth.
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I literally went to high school there for a year and a half. I lived there maybe a total of two years. Like 18 months is two years. I'm not even from the. I like lived in the Lehigh Valley for some time, but I'm not even from there.
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Did you go to Delaware State University? Yes. I put Dell State.
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Same thing.
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And you went for communications, right?
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Yeah, that's true.
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Okay. Yeah, so that's what happened.
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And that's like really funny.
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But yeah, I know. And then it gave me some other questions. And this is funny because it says what animal was bone?
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You know, my friend Bone, she's a human, she's not an animal. What else? That's so funny. I need to listen to the episode.
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Which ex gave her the peace gathering quote?
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What?
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I don't know.
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A peace gathering quote? Yeah, none of them. Because we're. None of us are peaceful.
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Which vacation has she called her favorite of all time?
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Hawaii, Thailand? Hawaii, probably.
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I don't know.
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Leah and I went to Hawaii for three weeks and we island hopped and we had all the kids with us. And I think that was like my favorite vacation of all time.
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Leah.
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My Leah is. Her favorite place is Hawaii.
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I love it.
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Should I buy us a trip there?
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Yes, immediately? Yes. But I'm going to give you a couple tips for Hawaii. Okay.
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Okay.
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If you are going to spend the money on Hawaii. Make sure you have the funds because I'm going to tell you why it's a 15 hour flight. It is a five or six hour time change depending on when you go. When you get there, it you, you know how they say like touch grass, you're never going to want to come home. It's one of those places. It's not like when you go to like the Caribbean.
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Right.
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Like you're like, okay, I, you know, I got, I, I was away from home. I was on vacation.
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I relaxed.
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I did all the things.
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Hawaii is different.
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It's a different vibe, it's a different everything. I'm obsessed with it.
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Go.
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Do not go for less than 10 days because of the adjustment on either side and the jet lag and the time change and everything. Have travel days, but do not be in Hawaii itself for less than 10 days.
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Well, the idea of taking a 15 hour flight with a child, that's why
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we went for three weeks. Because it was like at the time I had three kids.
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Maybe there's a cruise that goes there.
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There is.
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So I think that would just probably be easier.
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I don't think you'd have the same experience.
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No. We take the cruise there and just stay for a couple weeks and come back. I can work from anywhere. So it doesn't.
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I could work.
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You know, I have want. I've talked to Ike about going and he doesn't really like to be away from home for a week. Even like that feels like too much for him. And I'm like, I can't. Hawaii is my favorite place on earth and I would not go for less than. And their food is so different and so good. But I probably can't eat it now.
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But I think it's fresh.
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Yeah, but the gluten, like what of the food was like, maybe I could. I don't know. But anyways, if you go, I'm going. If you go, I'm. I'm packing my bags.
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Okay. Oh, I remember my question.
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What is it?
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When's the best time of year to go to Hawaii?
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That part I don't know. I've gone in September and loved it.
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Okay.
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I've gone in July and absolutely loved it. I've gone in March and it. We went. So I, I've been to all the islands. If I remember correctly, when I went in March and I don't know this for sure. I don't know if it was just that time that I went or if it's actually their rainy season. But I remember when I went for my birthday one year it was, it rained a lot. But I don't know if that's all the time or it just so happened to fall on my birthday. But September was great and July was also great.
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I'm looking to see if anyone in the comments knows why do people call you Garbage Pail Kale?
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Because one of the like a T page started calling me that.
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Why are people so mean?
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I'm decided this morning that I share entirely too much of my personal life online. And that open like I am finally realizing because I'm like, why are they so mean? I kept asking myself that. I'm 34, so I've been asking that for a long time. And I just realized that, like, they know too much and they fill in their own gaps and they come up with their own scenarios and their own Nair like narratives. And like, one wrong move can be twisted and spiraled into something completely different. And so ultimately it comes down to how much I share and what I'm sharing and I need to not do that.
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Yeah.
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Because they're being so mean because of their creating their own narratives of what I share.
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Yeah.
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So I just need to chill out.
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We're going radio silent here in September.
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What are you doing for your birthday?
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Probably nothing.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Would you. I didn't get to go last year because I was doing something.
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Birthday falls on a Friday, I think, this year, and it's Labor Day weekend. We're gonna be moved, so probably nothing.
A
You're gonna be 36.
B
I know, it's crazy.
A
I don't think we're old enough to be in our 30s.
B
Yeah, no, I'm not.
A
Like, I'm not mature enough to be 34.
B
Yeah. I just feel younger. Right?
A
Yeah, I feel 20.
B
I feel like I'm getting. And I'm like, getting younger as the time goes on, you know?
A
I don't know that I. I don't feel like I'm getting younger, but I definitely feel like I'm not maturing.
B
I think you're maturing sometimes.
C
Okay.
A
Tell us what to do in London. Becky's not there as long as I am. I think I'll be there for like two weeks almost. Tell me what to do in London because I. Lincoln will be playing soccer for a week. Elliot and I are going to do a and Becky are going to do a Paris day trip. But if there's anything else that I should specifically do in London, I'm also interviewing an author while I'm there.
B
Oh, fun.
A
Yeah. She had her debut novel, the Low Job, and so I was really excited because she's based in the UK and so I'll be interviewing her while I'm over there. Grace Alexander. But other than that, like, what things do we absolutely need to go see in London? Let me know.
B
Lindsay Chrisley walked into the men's bathroom today and that was so fun. It was so funny because she walked in, she went in, in, and I was like, oh, this must be one of those all inclusive bathrooms. Inclusive because she saw a urinal.
A
All inclusive instead of like inclusive, like, oh, yeah, I don't know what I'm saying.
B
She came out stressed and was like, is this the men's bathroom?
A
To be fair, it the, the way that it was set up and the sign that was in the middle did make it look like it was like, yeah, all. All sex is welcome.
B
Yeah.
A
You know what I mean?
B
Yeah. Fair. I saw a really funny tick tock today. Oh, no.
A
I don't know what you're gonna say. What is it about?
B
Was someone talking about actual. I think her tick knock game is actual blind girl.
A
Is she blind?
B
Yeah, she's blind. She said that she knows when people are hot because like, they, like their personalities are really boring because, like, she can't see them, but she can like obviously hear them and, and people still want to be friends with them. Like, she knows that that person is hot because, like, they're. They have a really boring personality, but so many people still be friends with them.
A
Okay, that's actually really funny and kind of true. Like how many hot people that you can't be? All the things like you can't be. Most people are not going to be hot and have a personality and be smart and be athletic. I tell ike this all the time because I look at basketball players and I'm like, they're so goofy looking.
B
Yeah.
A
You can't have the brains and be hot and be in the NBA and make all this money and do all the things and be hot.
B
You know what, when you say that, I automatically think of Travis Kelsey and I'm like, I feel like he is Some people hot, funny, and.
A
But it's few and far between.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, look at Alex Earl. I feel like Alex Earl could do anything.
C
She's super hot.
A
She looks like she's a good time. She looks like she's all the things you. But you can't be. Like, look at Wemby. Who the. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,
B
does he have a personality?
A
Well, I don't know about that, but he's not cute. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it just depends, right? Like, I'm funny, but I paid for my looks.
B
I think he's cute in his own way.
A
Who?
B
When? Wemby.
A
No, he's not.
B
The tall guy is that you're talking about.
A
99 of players in the NBA are tall.
B
Yeah, but he's like 8ft tall.
A
Yeah,
B
he's like, not like. He's not like.
A
Are we okay?
B
He's not, like, ugly.
A
Yeah, he is.
B
No, he's not. He's more attractive than a lot of
A
actually people you've dated. Not too much on your girl. Let me see. He's actually better looking than I thought. I take that back.
C
Sorry.
A
Wemby, if you're.
C
Listen.
A
You're not listening. I'm not worried. Okay? He's not as bad as I thought. He's not cute. Okay, No. I would not go as far as to say he's cute, but he's not bad. You're right.
E
Okay.
A
Kevin Durant.
C
Great.
A
Kevin Durant. You can't have all the things.
B
I saw him at a club once.
C
Nice cabs.
A
His legs are crazy. You know what I'm saying?
B
I've never looked at his legs before.
A
Look. Look them up, Kevin. Tarantula legs
B
kill.
A
They're. They're horrendous.
B
Oh, like, he doesn't have good ones.
A
The calves are nodding.
B
Okay, yes.
A
Like, where are your cal.
C
You.
A
You went to leg day and you skipped.
B
I thought you meant nice ones.
A
And I'm like, no, ma'. Am.
B
Oh, my goodness.
A
When you go to leg day, when men do leg day, do they not do anything about their cabs?
B
I don't know. I'm not a man.
A
And sometimes I see NBA players with their ankles are like this, and I'm like, are you okay?
B
Are they.
A
You know who I love, who I'm obsessed with?
B
Who?
A
Sophie Cunningham, wnba.
B
Oh, the. Yeah, the me. The.
A
Love her. Love her so much.
B
You had a WNBA shirt on the other day.
A
Yeah, it says everyone watches women's sports.
B
Yeah, I thought so. We should go to a W.M.A.
E
okay.
A
Down. Count me in. Can I go see Sophie, though?
E
Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
Which one would we go to? Isn't Philly getting a team next year?
A
Are they?
B
Yeah, I think so.
A
Wait, really?
B
Yeah.
A
I did not get the memo. I would love that. Also, Philly got LeBron.
B
That's crazy.
A
And the Knicks got Carmelo Anthony for assistant coach.
B
Really?
A
Yeah.
B
Going to Philly.
A
I know Lincoln's probably going to be freaking out about LeBron.
B
Oh, they're not starting until 2030, though.
A
But we got one.
B
Yeah.
A
Lux and Creed literally fight over. Today is Creed's birthday. His hair is green like the Joker. It's so funny. Lux and Creed fight over, like, before we go to bed. It's like, are we watching nature? But Creed will always ask for sports highlights.
B
August 22, they play at New York.
A
Shut the up.
B
God. Dude, you just scared the.
A
Oh, my God. Wait, are we in New York that day?
B
No.
A
Oh.
B
Anyway, Okay, I have a really serious question.
A
Oh,
B
why. Why do you think that ketchup is so much better at restaurants than it is at home? Like, when you get ketchup places when you're out, like, it's so much better than it is when it comes out of the bottle at the house.
A
I have never in my entire life thought about ketchup being better at one place or another. So I. I don't really give a. About ketchup. So that's. I've never. Does ketchup have gluten?
B
I don't think so.
A
I'm gonna go.
C
Yes.
B
It's just sugar and tomatoes. I thought
A
mayo does. Most mayos don't have gluten, which is really important to me.
B
Have gluten. Most ketchup is gluten free.
A
Oh, okay.
C
Bet.
A
Well, I still don't care about ketchup.
B
It says Heinz ketchup Regular. Regular varieties are gluten free.
A
Okay. I cannot say that I've ever noticed a difference between restaurant ketchup versus store bought ketchup.
C
Ever.
B
Never in your life.
C
Never.
B
You've never. Have you. What about ranch?
A
Like, the ranch that I get in my veggie trays on tour is different than like, Hidden Valley is different than, like, house made ranch at a restaurant. Like, they're all different. But those. Because you know that. That came from that. That house made restaurant is going to be like. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but, like, certain ranches are definitely better than others. Like, I know Lincoln is very particular about his ranch.
B
Yes.
A
Like, Lincoln knows which places he prefers his ranch from.
B
Yeah. Me too.
A
I don't care. I'm just gonna eat it.
B
Buffalo Wild Wings has good ranch.
A
Yeah, Buffalo Wild Wings does have good ranch. So does Wingstop.
B
Yeah, I with ranch but I don't
A
I have to google if those are gluten free. No, you don't have to do it right now. It's fine.
C
Foreign
A
it's fine is but you have to be like specific because ranch is gluten free. But not all ranches are gluten free.
B
Most store bought ranches are gluten free.
A
Yeah but Buffalo Wild Wings is not store bought. So.
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B
Two questions for you. Well one's not a question I Beck's one was falling off the bed, the other Day and I grabbed him, but, like, by his back and my hand went in his diaper and it went right into poop.
A
Love that for you.
B
Second, what do you do when a child refuses to eat?
A
Nothing.
B
You just let them not eat.
A
Yeah. Why? Why you're teaching them. In my opinion, if you force your kid to eat or finish their plate or you can't get.
B
No, no, not about finishing plate. Just eating in general.
A
The point is still the same.
C
Like the.
A
The. Yeah, the point is still the same. Is, like, if they're not eating, like
B
a one year old.
A
Yeah. But, like, you're teaching them bad habits if their body is telling them they're not hungry. Obviously, if it goes on for too long, where it becomes a health concern. That' conversation. But if he's going through like, a day or. Because he could be getting sick, he could be teething, his stomach could be upset. He could be just like, maybe he ate something the day before that has him bloated and uncomfortable. Like. But if you force him to eat, you're going to end up teaching, like, unhealthy habits.
B
Yeah. Okay. Not eating every day is different.
A
Yeah, that's. That's normal.
B
It's crazy. Some days he'll eat our entire kitchen. Other days he, like, won't eat at all.
A
That's so common. It's not.
B
I mean, your parents.
A
Hard Rio will only eat rotini pasta. Like, there's no. You can't give him bow ties. You can't give him spaghetti. It's rotini. And he will go in the pantry and bring it to you and say, I want this.
B
Okay.
A
So like. And. But then the next day, he won't eat anything.
B
Fascinating. So we're not doing it wrong?
A
No.
B
Okay.
A
No.
B
Good to know.
A
Creed 6. And he'll tell me he doesn't like something that he ate yesterday. I don't like that, you know?
B
Yeah. Bex is doing this new thing, so. He's so cute. I put him to bed every night. Well, obviously not when I'm not home, but when I am home, it's my, like, bedtime is my routine with him. And so I put. We give him a bottle. I put him, like. I hold him, Give him a bottle. He does this thing now where after he's done with the bottle, he'll sit up and, like, smirk and smile and then start tickling your. And then lays down and goes to sleep. Like, it's so cute. Like, literally so. And like, the smirk that he gives and he goes like this. And then I'm like, oh, I love you so much. And then he lays down and like, nuzzles in to.
A
He just, like, knows that's his, like, thing.
B
It's. It's literally so cute.
A
I love that.
B
Yeah. It. He's. He's so cute. He. I FaceTimed him when we were at the show yesterday and. And he's like, learning. He says, mom, Mom. They're mama now. And like, mom. And he started, like, yelling it. When I. When Leah showed it to him. I was like, I will fly home right now. Like, right. I am literally getting on a plane right now. And he, like, waves. He's so cute.
A
So cute. Yeah, he is seriously, the cutest baby.
B
The cutest.
A
I hate to say it, but there are babies that are just not cute. And like, they might grow up to be great and cute and whatever, but they're not as, you know, so just
B
the way of life.
A
Yeah.
B
Survival of the fittest.
A
You know, I was an ugly baby. I was a cute TOD toddler, but I was an ugly baby.
B
Surprised that, you know, I thought there was no photos.
A
Well, the ones that I sent you based on those, just the two. Like the infancy. Like birth to one. I was not.
B
I find it so fascinating. Like, some people, you can look at their baby photos. Like Matt, if you look at his baby photos, you would not be able to tell it was him.
A
Interesting.
B
Okay, but like your baby photos, my baby photos, or like just kid photos in general? Like, when I. You can tell that's you.
A
Really?
B
Yeah. Like, you're like, oh, that's Kale. Yeah. And like, even Leah's. Leah's up. They're like, yeah, like, that's Leah.
A
I don't think Elliot looks like he did when he was an infant. Like a toddler, yes, but an infant, no. Same for Lincoln. Yes. Lux. Yes. Creed. Yes. Rio could be hit or miss. And then the twins could be hit or miss.
B
They're still young.
A
I will say though, the prettiest baby that I ever had. Like, infant wise verse. I've never seen a more good looking, like, fresh out the womb because, you know, they really look like aliens.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Fresh out the womb verse was the most like, like, prettiest, like, not hand, like prettiest baby.
B
I wouldn't know. We weren't friends. Oh, yep.
C
Okay.
B
Yeah.
A
Were we not?
C
No, we weren't.
F
No.
A
When did you meet the twins?
B
When I came to your house that one time last year. Two years ago.
A
How old were they?
B
One.
A
One. No, we became friends again when they.
B
20, 24. What year were they born 23. Yeah. So I think it was like late in or. No, I think it was probably 20, 25 that I came to your house.
A
Oh, so they were like, like 16 or 18 months old?
B
Yeah.
A
Wow. Okay. Yeah. Verse came out the womb first. I have no memory of meeting Valley. Like I don't remember me like guys, I was so up from my C section.
B
Yeah.
A
I don't remember them ever showing me her. Like when you get a C section and they put them up to your face. I remember seeing verse and I remember thinking, wow, like that is a one good looking baby. But I don't remember meeting Valley. I was throwing up noodles and everything. You're throwing up during my C section they have you strapped down, which they also didn't warn you. So you're strapped down.
B
Your arms are strapped down. I don't like that.
A
No, it freaked me the out. And so then they give you all kinds of meds and whatever. And I didn't. It wasn't a planned C section either. So I was. Started throwing up. So I'm strapped down.
B
Did you have a C section with Rio?
A
No.
B
Who did you have a C section?
C
Never you.
A
That was my first year.
B
First C section?
A
Yeah.
B
Holy. That's kind of crazy.
A
Yeah. But nobody want. They didn't warn me that they strap you down and then you're throwing up. So you're strapped down on your back throwing up.
B
That. That sounds like my worst nightmare.
A
Well, because. And I told them, I was like, this is like a scene out of Grace anatomy. But I was like, at least, at least when you get cosmetic surgery you get as. You can get a Xanax before.
B
Yeah.
A
And you also are like kind of out of it before you go back there where like for a C section like you're fully there and you. You smell all the smells, you hear all the things. You get the eye like you're. It's. I don't. It was traumatizing for me because I was not prepared.
B
I. I feel like I talk to a lot of people and hear a lot of people's stories and never once have I talked to someone who's gotten a C section. That is that like does everyone.
A
Is it common for people to get strapped down? I had two and was never strapped down.
E
Yeah.
B
I don't think that's like a. Oh,
A
I got strapped down. Oh. Everyone's saying yes. There were people saying yes and no. So I guess in. It just depends what's the purpose because I think you can convulse
C
because they
A
had to give me meds. To, like.
B
Did you know you were getting a C section?
A
I knew I had to. Yeah. Because verse was breach and verse was on the bottom. Valley was on the top.
B
That's crazy. You had two kids in your belly
A
at the same time.
B
Yeah.
A
And they were big twins. Like, if I would have went any more.
B
How.
D
How.
B
How far were you when you gave.
A
I was 35 weeks.
B
Oh.
A
And they were five and six pounds.
B
Oh, wow.
A
Yeah. I was in pain. Like, I. At the end, like, I would say probably around, like, month six and a half. I would tell Elijah, like, once I sit, like, lay down in the bed for the night, I'm not like you. It physically hurt me to get. Because I also had a tummy tuck.
B
Yeah.
A
So it physically, like, was. I was in pain. Not just, like, the aches and pains from pregnancy, but, like, physical pain. Like, it was hard for me to even just roll over to switch sides.
B
Oh, my goodness. That's crazy. And, like, you had a little toddler.
A
He wasn't a toddler. He was still an infant.
B
You had an infant?
A
Yeah, he was 10 or 11 months. They had the same due diligence date. Rio was 125 or 12 4, and so are the twins, but I had Rio November 20, and then I had the twins October 29, but they had the same exact due date.
B
It's crazy.
A
Insane.
B
What's nine months before that?
A
I don't know. I only had sex, like, twice, so I was like.
B
Speaking of sex, have we talked about
C
making out when we made out?
B
No, no, no, no, no. Like, we need to take a poll if. Of people, like, if you're listening or watching. Watching. Do you like to make out with your partner?
A
It gets weird to me.
B
Wait,
A
when you, like, go to do it and then. And then. I'm embarrassed to say this. It gets weird because, like, you go to do it and then, like, what it. Like when they. When they. I'm, like, embarrassed. So, like, when you're, like, making out, and then it's like one person goes to slip the tongue and the other one doesn't. Like, the tongues never meet. And then it's awkward because it's like one of you slipped the tongue and then the other one didn't.
B
Both people don't have to slip the tongue.
A
So it's like two, like, two mouths together and one. Like, It just is like. Like, it would just be. That's not how I make out. But it's like. Like, that's what it feels like in my head, you know? Do you Know what I mean?
B
No.
A
So like when you make out and you slip the tongue and she doesn't. What, what do you do?
B
Enjoy it.
A
But what are you doing with your tongue if you're not meeting her tongue?
B
I mean, like someone's got to use a tongue first and then it. There's nothing more I love in this world than making out with Leah Liter. Like if I could make out with her for an hour a day, I'd
A
be an hour a day. So random.
B
I'd be a happier person because of it.
A
Okay.
B
She's not always in the making out mood though, you know.
A
Yeah, there's a lot of things that also if you eat an edible, you probably have cotton mouth.
B
I don't eat edibles.
G
So.
A
Okay.
B
There's this like certain like breath that she'll have sometimes and it's like, like you hate it or you want to love it it.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah.
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A
Well, Ike's not getting any makeouts anytime soon because I'm about to get my tonsils out. So I'm going to be down and out. I'm be down bad for a little bit.
B
We're not going to hear from you. That's going to be so weird.
A
It might be nice for you.
B
People are gonna think you're gonna be dead.
A
Okay. Let them wonder.
B
Yeah.
A
Because you know what? I. I really up on the Internet lately, so I need the Internet taken away from me for a little bit. So it'll be really good for that.
B
I actually agree.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah.
A
Do you guys like making out or is that just like a Becky thing or.
B
Let me see what these. And if you're listening. Yeah. I want to know if someone else loves making out like I do. Everyone's saying yes.
A
I'm not a huge making.
B
Someone said, no, don't prefer it.
A
I'm not. I don't prefer to make out. I will always make out with Ike if he wants to, but, like, it's just not. It's okay.
B
Right place, right time.
C
Yes.
A
Agreed.
C
It's right.
A
It's. It's.
C
Yeah.
B
That I can't remember the last time I made out out. Listen,
A
I think the more you have sex, the more you make out. Would you agree?
B
Not without a purpose. I get butterflies. I love it. Yeah, same. What?
A
Like if you have sex often, you make out more often.
B
Yeah.
A
We've been making out a lot lately.
B
Is it because of me?
C
Yeah.
A
We think of you and we're like,
B
no, not cuz you think of me, but because I'm. I'm encouraging.
A
Somebody said, help.
B
I'm encouraging. You know it.
A
Yeah, exactly.
B
Thank you.
A
Yeah.
B
It's because of me.
A
Does anyone have any questions? We're on live. Does anyone have any questions for us that they would like for us to answer? Oh, hey, ladies. How are you? Are those Bucky's pants? No, they're. It's a Bucky's blanket.
B
Sometime my husband loves it. It me. And not so much unless I'm super drunky. Must be a bad kisser. Someone said, can y' all do an edible mukbang vlog? If we did, that would be I don't smoke weed or do any of that or eat edibles.
A
I would eat inedible. What? I would Eat inedible.
B
Yeah, I just, like, it's not something you regularly do. But if I did, I'm a something she regularly does.
C
Was.
B
I. I would just sit here and laugh. Like, you wouldn't get me to.
A
I. If I. I'm stuck. Like, I'm. I would not be a fun time high around people.
B
You two make out now?
A
We'll make out tomorrow when I do. You and Ike both want to announce us on the stage?
B
No.
A
And we'll make out first.
B
I'm not a part of the show tomorrow.
A
You don't even want to announce me? Me?
B
No. I call now, too. Oh, that's his job. I'll come up and use the timer. I'll do the timer thing.
A
Fine.
B
Someone wants to know what your blanket is.
A
Mine is Lola, and it's a podcast sponsor, so definitely check out Lola. Let them know karma and chaos sent you.
B
Someone asked if you believed in ghosts.
A
I am undecided on whether or not I believe in ghosts because nothing paranormal has, like, really, really happened to me. I feel like the things that I thought may have happened to me could be explained by, like, nature. Okay, so I'm like, undecided, but, like, I've gone to places where I get, like, a really eerie feeling. Like, you know, if you've ever been to, like, New Orleans or to like a.
C
The.
A
They went to the penitentiary or whatever. Haunted penitentiary, like, things like that. Like, I've been to places where there's super eerie feeling, but nothing. Do you believe in ghosts? Becky said, yeah, she doesn't have her microphone in her hand, but I do not necessarily believe in ghosts. But I don't know, we should just do a separate video on that.
B
I do believe in ghosts. I feel as if. If like you just like there's like a presence to them and like, weird happened in, like, all the houses growing up. Like, door slamming and like volume changing heat being put on high. I saw a ghost once.
A
So did you freak out?
B
I was so nervous. I was probably in like 8th grade maybe, and my door slammed shut in my. To my room and I got up and I opened it and I peeked out and I saw it was like someone on black and like white, really white long hair, like down my steps.
A
You don't think you're schizophrenic?
B
I'm never. Imagine I'm just like living, like, I'm just like, did you see the panic in my face?
A
You're like, wait, I never thought about that.
B
Imagine like I'm. I'm just living in my Mind somewhere else right now. Like, this isn't reality.
A
When we sat down to record.
B
Yeah.
A
Ike was uploading files. He gets up to set everything up. And all of a sudden, his computer behind us.
C
Lindsay Chrisley.
A
Her voice is good morning. And we all just look at each other like, yeah, is Lindsay here? And it was just the com. I guess the files, like, downloaded and automatically started playing. But like, like, that's the only type of example that I have. Like haunted situations where things could be explained. I guess.
B
Yeah.
A
But did you hear my stomach? I just had gluten free ramen. It wasn't the best, it wasn't the worst, but I don't know, my stomach's like, gurgling. It's weird.
B
It's okay.
A
But I feel fine.
B
A lot of people are asking about Becks. Bex is great. Parenthood's going so much better. I love that kid more. Like, so much.
A
People need to give you some grace. It's your first kid, and I'm telling you, the first year of life is so hard and so hard. We've talked about it a million times. But Becky is so funny because she's like, I don't know how single moms do it. Literally the first year of life. Specifically, like, the sleep deprivation alone.
B
Yeah. I don't. I don't know. Someone asked what's our favorite thing to do together?
A
Eat. We do mukbangs.
B
Yeah.
A
I just like going to your house and sitting on the couch.
F
That's.
B
I was in my head. It was like literally just sitting on a couch.
A
Yeah.
B
That's my favorite thing to do that.
A
You are so busy separately. And I'm so busy separately that, like, when we come together, like, we don't. We don't work. Yeah. We don't need to do all the extra. Like, I'm perfectly fine just chilling.
B
Yeah. Just sitting on a couch. Maybe even just scrolling on our phone phones individually. Just like being giggling. Yeah. Giggling at things. Watching a movie.
A
Yeah. We watched how to train how to train your dragon at your house. And then I do need to take the new Spider man came out.
B
Yeah. I bought tickets.
A
I'm not gonna go see it in the movie theater probably because I don't know how the top, like, versus Obsession with spider man is so crazy. That's how he says it. Spider Man. And so I don't think he would do well in a movie theater. He's only two. But when it comes out, like, I just know he's gonna freak out. Spiderman.
B
Spider Man. A lot of people are asking if we're going on tour next year.
A
Yes, we're gonna go on tour next year. I decided. I made the executive decision. I didn't ask Becky. I just kind of told her.
B
She literally didn't.
A
I think I announced it publicly before I even said anything. Thing. I think we'll go on tour and we want to go places that we haven't been yet. So we want to do like, New England, Chicago, Florida, and I want to do weekends.
B
People are saying they like these lives. Chill couch talks.
A
Okay.
C
Period.
B
Someone. Someone asked what to do in Salem. We're going back.
A
Going back to Salem this year.
B
But this year we.
A
You didn't. We were going to do an Airbnb.
B
Yeah. And we're. It's. We'll. We'll be there the right weekend. Last weekend. We didn't go the right week last year. Last.
A
Yeah, last year we didn't go the right weekend. Well, that was. That was an accident. It was still a good time.
B
Someone asked for your. You already talked about this on coffee combos. What was it your stance on the Lindsay Clancy trial? Listen to coffee convos to get her stance on it.
A
No, like, if you guys don't listen to coffee combos. My stance is that everyone failed her, including her husband. And. And it actually irks me that people think that she going to jail will solve anything or make anything better. Like, she is absolutely. She was absolutely not in the right state of mind. Because I did see a Facebook post that said something along the lines of, like, how couldn't. How could she take her kids lives and not just her own. We're talking about postpartum psychosis. Like you. She's not in her right state of mind and you're asking her to not. Like, it's a tragedy always around. And I just can't understand how you think that jail is going to correct something that happened when she was having postpartum psychosis.
B
I just think. Yeah, I agree.
A
And I think your husband knew and he repeatedly left.
B
I think he was having an affair.
A
Really?
B
Yeah.
A
That's like a theory that. Or is it like an open theory or.
B
Yeah, I saw people talking about it too, because.
A
And I've talked to Ike about this too. But like, like, and not to bring up my exes, but I genuinely don't think that Elijah would have ever left me with those kids alone if. If I was having thoughts like that.
B
Yeah.
A
Not even for 20 minutes. Like, I just don't think that that would have ever happened. And I. Like, she was a nurse where were her colleagues? Where were her. Where were the doctors? Where was her mom?
C
Where was her?
A
And like, yes, they were involved a little bit, but they did not do enough. Why not say like, if I was your partner, if Leah was your partner, would you not say, we need to put you on a cycle.
B
What can we do?
A
Let's put you on a cycle to see how we can balance out your meds. Like, let's figure this out.
B
Or like take a week by yourself to like punish without like the response. Yeah.
A
Putting someone in jail. That. And she has to live with this for the rest of her life. And she's paralyzed for the rest of her life.
B
Someone said he started dating his now wife three months after and like she's. She's from New York and like the trip he went on the month before was to New York.
A
Oh, see, I didn't even know about that.
B
Okay, someone keeps spamming. Can you come to the uk? We're literally coming next week.
A
Our show for.
B
It's ne. It's on Monday the 10th. We have a live show in London.
A
It's at the Lester. Is it pronounced Lester? Leicester. Yeah, Lester Theater. August 10th, I believe it is. You can get tickets on killlowry.com and we will be there for a live show which I'm so excited for. For unfortunately the only merch that we can get to the UK for that is stickers. So we'll have sticker packs there and that is the only show that we'll have in London just because that's just the way the. The cards fell. But really excited about that show.
B
Someone's like, part of me thinks maybe he was hoping she would so he could live a new life. Well, yeah, she had the. She was given. What, what, what did I say? 13 different medicines in a three month span. That's ins. That's like insane.
A
Like I'm trying to put myself in those shoes.
C
Right?
A
Like I have gone on and off Met, for example, when I had perinatal depression and it was to the point where I was literally ready to unalive myself. Natalie and Bone physically took me to the doctor Elijah was working, otherwise he probably would have done done it also. But like making sure that I was at the like if you know that she's having these thoughts repetitively and she's constantly coming to you about it and she's constantly going to these different doctors to try to get help. Y' all didn't do enough. She's obviously not in the right state of mind. But putting her in jail Won't like, she has to live with killing her children for the rest of her life and being paralyzed and literally, like, I. I don't. It's just crazy to me. The whole thing. And the whole thing is a tragic. Like, I feel bad for her and I also feel horrible for the kids. And I don't know.
B
Yeah, I'm on board. I need to actually learn more about it. I just learned about it today under a rock. I just haven't. I've been reprior. I've been prioritizing my relationship.
A
As you should. And.
B
Which means I'm spending, like, I'm spending so much less time on my phone.
A
Good.
B
Like, Leah and I are just, like, conversating and making out.
E
Out.
A
I love that for you.
B
And so, like, I'm not scroll. Like, and honestly, it helps my mental health because one, I'm making out and. And two, I'm not doom scrolling at night. Like, I literally don't. Like, sometimes we'll scroll on Tik Toks together, but, like, we're chatting, doing our therapy work at night and then going to bed. So I love that. I do live under a rock right now.
A
That's good.
B
And yeah, other people should be held accountable. I think that there's multiple people that are just yapping and making out. Yeah. Hell yeah.
A
Hell yeah, brother.
B
Wow. This was fun.
A
Yeah. I think we're out of time.
B
We are out of time.
A
But if you guys want to get tickets for any of our shows, we have one. We have our London show and then one more week of, like, local shows, which is Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, New York. I'm missing one, aren't I? Maryland.
B
Maryland.
A
So there's five. Five. Tomorrow is Atlanta.
B
Tomorrow's Atlanta.
A
And there's five shows after that. And you can get tickets on Kayla.com. i will probably start working on tour for 2027 while I'm down and out getting my tonsils out.
B
Ike's like, what the. Make sure to follow. For the haters. Listen. Going over there.
A
Listen up for the Haters is Becky's solo podcast. For those of you who are new here, go check out for the Haters, Spotify, Apple. She has a Patreon. Go subscribe. Tell your friends about it. She tells real stories from real people. And you can also apply to be on for the Haters too.
B
Yeah.
A
And she has a really cool way of, like, telling people's stories on there. So it's different from any other podcast.
B
Come on over. And we do the Sunday reset. We do a Sunday reset every month for Patreon. And it's like. Oh, it's like, building friends and community there. It's really cool. They're like, I love the girls. And it's so funny because I get meaner to people the more I get to know them and feel like I have a friendship with them. And so it's funny because you can tell who I know in the group. And, like, I have friendships building and getting stronger with different people. And then, yes, a new person comes in. And then every month we get. Why don't we do that?
A
Because on book club, my friend. I'm calling her my friend. I've never met her in person. Well, I met her in person at one of the shows, but, like, we've never, like, hung out in person.
B
Yeah.
A
And she loves to rage bait me. And she'll, like, talk about this author. And, like, it's nothing against the author personally, but I, like, can't stand her work. Like, her books. And so she'll, like, rage bait me and stuff. And, like, I always wonder if the new people in book club think that, like, you're that big. Yeah. But it's just the way that we like our banter that's so.
B
Life is just better that way.
A
Yeah. And I saw, like, people are mean to both of us about us being mean to each other.
B
Yeah.
A
It's like, it's out of love.
B
Yeah, it is.
A
It's out of love.
B
Yeah.
A
Well, anyways, we love you all.
C
Thanks for listening.
B
We'll talk to you.
G
Love you.
A
Next Tuesday for Karma and chaos.
B
See ya.
E
Foreign.
C
Okay, guys, we're back. You asked for it, and we're delivering. Killer is going on tour. We're super excited for the fatherless behavior tour. 23 cities, three countries, all in one summer. And you guys can check out tour dates and see if we're coming to a city near you on killlowry.com. and if you want early access to information and announcements, head over to Patreon because you might get it before everyone else.
B
Hey, it's your ceiling vent. So I'm dripping. Could be the rain, could be the upstairs bathroom. Yikes. You could hire the guy your neighbor recommended, but I'm pretty sure that's just his cousin. Do we know if he's licensed or does he just stone a ladder?
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Episode: Chaos Is Inevitable
Date: August 4, 2026
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In this lively episode, Kail Lowry and Becky Hayter reconnect in Atlanta to catch up on life, parenting, their renewed friendship, and – true to the title – all the inevitable chaos that follows them around. Recorded amid their Fatherless Behavior Tour, the episode is a candid blend of stories from the road, honest discussions about motherhood, playful ribbing, relationship insights, and fan interaction. The duo’s signatures—Kail’s candor and Becky’s humor—shine as they navigate everything from parenting struggles to social media pressures, identity in the public eye, and their unfiltered takes on growing up.
“Chaos Is Inevitable” is a quintessential Karma & Chaos episode—equal parts absurd road stories and revelations about life in your 30s. Kail and Becky lean into their friendship, embracing both the hilarious and the hard with laughter, candor, and a realness that resonates deeply with their audience. The episode covers everything from wacky live shows to the way the internet shapes (and sometimes warps) personal narratives, while rooting every discussion in the messiness and beauty of real life.
If you’re seeking relatable adulting, honest motherhood conversations, and an unpolished slice of life peppered with pop culture and hot takes, this episode delivers.