Good Morning, Good Evening, Good Chaos

Summary

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter
Episode: Good Morning, Good Evening, Good Chaos
Date: February 24, 2026
Host: PodcastOne

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Episode Overview

In "Good Morning, Good Evening, Good Chaos," Kail Lowry and Becky Hayter return to share a candid conversation about juggling the complexities of modern adulthood. This episode dives deeply into themes of work-life balance, parenting struggles and joys, friendship, pop culture, and the ever-present tension between karma and chaos in daily life. Their signature blend of unfiltered honesty (Kail) and upbeat humor (Becky) makes for a relatable, engaging listen as they tackle questions from listeners, reflect on their personal journeys, and riff on everything from vacation food to the prospect of college-bound kids.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Balancing Work, Family, & Social Life

• Listener Question: "How do you ladies balance work and family life?"
  • Becky works remotely in a full-time job and describes her relationship to work as “love is a strong word. I don't hate it.” (02:42)
  • Rebecca (Kail) shares the struggle of transitioning from work mode to parent mode, feeling guilt about giving attention to her son after a workday:

    "I didn't want to be a parent...I felt so guilty. I relieved our nanny, I took Bex, and like, I didn't want to be a parent." (04:00)

  • Both hosts agree that balancing these roles is a constant work in progress, and that performing—especially in podcasting—can drain their social batteries.
  • Kail reflects on how flexibility in modern work is a privilege, especially with seven children, but guilt pervades across all professions:

    "No matter what profession you are in, there's guilt—and just, like, no work-life balance these days because we're all on technology. You're taking your work with you wherever you go." (06:38)

2. The Emotional Realities of Parenting

• Both hosts discuss the emotional highs and lows of motherhood, admitting to resentment, fatigue, and yet profound love for their kids.
  • Becky:

    "There are several days that I want to rip my hair out...and I simultaneously am pulling my hair out and loving these little humans so much it, like, hurts." (21:38)

• Impact of Age and Life Stage:
  • Kail notes that having children younger may have helped with patience, but balancing the needs of an older body and more responsibilities is taxing as you age (27:08).
• Reflection on Attachment:
  • Kail shares a controversial but honest view on parental detachment, especially in early parenthood:

    "Becoming a parent has made me understand why it's so easy for someone to leave their child and never look back. I don't understand how someone can...but both can be true." (10:00)

3. Gender and Parental Guilt

• The hosts muse about whether men in traditional breadwinner roles feel the same guilt about absence from family obligations.
  • Kail:

    "Do men feel guilty for leaving their families the same way?" (08:52)

  • Both agree that active, present parenting is a conscious choice, not purely an innate bond, and that fathers might only become emotionally involved upon meeting their child (13:05).

4. Vacation Preferences: Food, Relaxation, and Adventure

• Rebecca: enjoys all-inclusive resorts for the pool and relaxation, not the food ("I could eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich twice a day at an all-inclusive and be happy." 16:03).
• Becky: is passionate that all-inclusive and cruise food “sucks”:

  "My whole life revolves around food...cruises have horrible food...it all tastes the same." (16:29)

• Both discuss their ideal vacations, with Becky favoring adventure-packed trips in Hawaii or Jamaica, and recounting a story about a Costa Rican bug bite that left a lasting scar (18:18).

5. Friendship, Community, and Future Dreams

• Compounds and Living Near Friends:
  • The idea of building a “compound” to live side-by-side is enthusiastically entertained (19:36).
• Kail appreciates the luck of having Becky as a friend, highlighting the value of chosen family.

6. Parenting Young Children & Baby Updates

• Rebecca’s son, “Baby Bix,” is 7.5 months old, not sleeping well but advancing and “so cute.” (23:41)
• The daily grind of infant parenting is acknowledged as repetitive but sweet, and the hosts laugh about baby milestones and sleep regressions.

7. College Planning & Letting Go

• Kail discusses guiding her son Elliot through college planning:

  "I never got to tour colleges and decide what I wanted to major in and do all of the things...not one size fits all." (32:24)

• They debate touring vs. applying, lists of schools, application strategies, and the daunting emotional aspect of a child leaving home.

8. Karma, Chaos, and Personal Growth

• If Karma Was Instant:
  • Both joke that they themselves would be in trouble first, particularly Kail:

    "You know the way that people constantly tell me, karma, karma, karma...I've done my virtual jail time. I've done it." (42:14)

• Kail reflects on recent personal challenges, highlighting resilience and the cumulative effect of chaotic life events.

9. Pop Culture & The Changing Media Landscape

• Discussion of new “vertical micro dramas” and changing media consumption:

  "They're making...vertical micro dramas...cutting this into one to three minute clips...because of people's attention spans." (48:45)

• Both discuss how creators are gaining more control over their content in new formats.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rebecca (on parenting guilt):

  “I feel like I’m not doing enough...like I need to be doing more. She’s like, you’re out of your mind. Like, I don’t even think you could do more if you tried.” (08:07)

• Becky (on parental love):

  “The way that I would take a bullet 12 times over for my kids, but sometimes they drive me absolutely up the wall where I’m pulling my own hair out. Yeah. That’s love.” (21:48)

• Rebecca (on vacation food):

  “I could eat chips and guac and be fine.” (16:29)

• Rebecca (on letting go):

  “I can see the appeal to, like, one and done. Because, like, sometimes I’m, like, laying there, I’m like, we’re gonna have to go through all this again.” (26:40)

• Kail (on karma):

  “I've already received mine. I’m tapping…My virtual jail time. I’ve done it.” (42:14)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Work/Life/Parenting Balance: 02:21 – 08:52
• Gendered Guilt in Parenting: 08:52 – 14:38
• Vacation Food & Style Debate: 15:38 – 19:23
• Friendship & Compound Plans: 19:36 – 20:11
• Baby Updates & Parenting Realness: 20:22 – 22:13
• Parental Love & Relationship Evolution: 22:13 – 27:08
• Kids and College Planning: 30:37 – 41:25
• Karma & Life’s Hard Lessons: 41:46 – 43:42
• Pop Culture & Microdramas: 48:06 – 51:12

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Lighthearted & Personal Insights

• Vacations: The hosts have divergent views on how to vacation—Rebecca for relaxation, Becky for food and adventure.
• Bug Bite Story: Becky's story from Costa Rica about a scar left by a bug bite injects humor and vulnerability (18:18).
• Parenthood: Both hosts openly discuss resentment, exhaustion, and attachment, normalizing the emotional spectrum of raising kids.
• College Planning: A revealing reflection on their own upbringings vs. what they want for their children.
• Karma: Self-awareness and joking acceptance of the idea that life's “chaos” might be payback for past misadventures.
• Favorite Moments: The best part of the day for Rebecca was sharing a synchronous moment with Becky; for Becky, it was getting paid back money owed (47:30).

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Tone

Warm, hilariously self-deprecating, candid, and supportive. Both hosts blend humor and vulnerability, regularly affirming each other and their listeners. Conversations shift fluidly from heavy topics to playful banter without losing authenticity, making for an episode that is both engaging and grounding for listeners navigating their own versions of “karma and chaos.”

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TL;DR:
This episode is a raw, relatable dive into the chaos of modern adulthood—balancing work, family, and friendship; grappling with mom guilt; rethinking parental attachment; debating vacation styles; and reflecting on karma, with plenty of laughs and heartfelt moments along the way.

Transcript

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[Kelsey]

Good morning, good evening, good night.

[Rebecca]

Oh, we're back. We're good morning, good evening, good day, good night. Coming at you live from Dover, Delaware,

[Becky]

again, here we are.

[Rebecca]

There's a new part of TikTok that I'm on. It's people reading audiobooks and it's really fascinating.

[Becky]

Oh, I've actually seen it. Lauren Whelan is my favorite. Is it Lauren something Whelan? I love her recording.

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[Rebecca]

So people are on live, like, doing their job of recording audiobooks. So it's them like editing and doing it. And it's like all of them have like, similar voice. It's. They're like kind of nas a little bit. And I'm like, can I do this? Yes.

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[Rebecca]

Emily's like, please.

[Becky]

JoJo used to do it. I'll never stop talking about it.

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[Rebecca]

She gives like very.

[Becky]

Like, we can't laugh with you.

[Rebecca]

No, she gives very, like, warm sexual energy. Yes.

[Becky]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

I feel like mine's more like a. Like a smut book and hers is more like a spicy romance, like a smooth ballad, you know?

[Becky]

Smooth ballad. That's how you feel about me, Becky?

[Rebecca]

No, that's how I feel about JoJo. Okay. Not JoJo siwa. Oh, like,

[Becky]

can you tell? Can you read us a question that was in the live.

[Kelsey]

Oh, let me mic her them.

[Becky]

Oh, okay. So while you're doing that, can I ask for a different question?

[Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Becky]

So I posted a question box on my Instagram for us. For me.

[Rebecca]

Yes.

[Becky]

And one question is, how do you ladies balance work and family life?

[Rebecca]

Okay.

[Becky]

Which I think is a good question for both of us because we have very different. Yeah, Work. So you work. For anyone listening, Becky works a full time job I do. It's fully remote.

[Rebecca]

It is, yeah.

[Becky]

It's fully remote. You love it.

[Rebecca]

Love is a strong word. I don't hate it. I'm not going to spoil out myself to hear this.

[Becky]

No, it's.

[Rebecca]

I mean, it's a fair. Like, it's not that, like, I'm obsessed with health benefits. Like, I don't hate my job, and

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[Rebecca]

Like, I don't wake up miserable if

[Becky]

I have to go to work. Good. So how do you balance now? Because you do have a son. Yeah. And then obviously, quality time. And then you also are doing this on the side now and you have for the haters. So how to balance, like, social life, family, work, podcast. Because podcast is social, but it's also work. It is.

[Rebecca]

And it's. And it's drains your, like, social battery. Lee and I were just talking about that the other. The other day, how she was. She wasn't complaining. She just said that, like, sometimes she feels like my energy is just given elsewhere and that it doesn't come back in the house with me, which is fair. But then I have to remind her, like, even when I'm recording, sometimes it's like me just performing. It's like I. Like, I don't actually have energy. Like, I'm just performing. Like, I do, because I know this is, like, the job of it.

[Becky]

Right.

[Rebecca]

I'm still figuring out how to balance it because I was. I just went through this the other day. I came in from work, so now my office space is separate. I go from nine to five above my garage. I come in for lunch sometimes if I have time, but I came in at 5, brought my laptop with me to work on podcast stuff. And, like, I didn't want to be a parent. And, like, I, like, felt so guilty. I relieved our nanny, who comes once a week because Leah was at work, and I relieved her. I took backs and, like, I didn't want to be a parent.

[Becky]

No, you're still stuck in work.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

And, like, I was so annoyed. I was like, I just want to get this done. And, like, I can't. And then finally I shut my. Like, I was trying to do both, like, entertain him and work. And then finally I just shut my laptop and paid attention to him, and he was, like, so happy. And I was like. Like, I was like a knife in my eye again. Get getting wet. It was like a knife in my heart. Like, he just wanted my attention. And I'm like, damn, this sucks. So I. I don't know. I. I'M figuring it out, and I haven't figured it out yet.

[Becky]

Also, same. And I'm gonna break your heart again.

[Leah]

Oh, no.

[Becky]

Because I have a 16 year old. I'll have you know, two weeks ago, I left this content house. I went home and I hugged Elliot crying. He's like, what's wrong? And I'm like, I just have been working. But people don't. Don't think this is a real job. They think we get paid in monopoly money. They don't know the work that goes into it. They don't know the. You know, it's draining. It's exhausting to constantly be on for everybody at the time. And, like, I don't want to complain because any job is like that, right? Like, even if you work at corporate or you're working remote or you're working for a call center, you're talking to people all day long. And then you still have tasks to do. And you might have the flexibility of working from home too, but being at home, and then you're still pulled in two different directions. And so it's. It's challenging. But, like, I am both. I complain about it, but I'm also thankful for it because what else would I be doing? That I. And I told Rebecca the other day, I said, I don't know how people work. And I'm. I give all the kudos in the world to people who have to physically go to work every single day, like, physically leave their house, go to work, and can't take their kids to appointments and stuff. Because Ike was talking to me about how he get five days of PTO for the year. Five. And sometimes you have to work an entire calendar year to earn those five days. And I'm like, I have seven kids. Like, okay, so if you have five paid days off, how many days do you get unpaid? Because if you're willing to take an unpaid day to take your kids to the doctor, but if you have multiple kids, you're gonna have to take multiple. Because I'm proud to say that with seven kids, all seven of them have, well, the twins are gonna go for the first time in March. Have never. Elliott, in 16 years, has never missed a dentist appointment. That's something that I'm proud of because my mom never took me to the dentist. So, like, that's at least if there's no issues, which there hasn't been, knock on wood. That's at least 2.2 appointments in one calendar year. Now we add Lincoln. Now that's two calendar. That's two appointments in a calendar year. And then you add Lux, same thing. So if they're not on the same days, I have to take multiple days. Now Lincoln has had a lot of dental issues. Not, not in terms of cavities, but like needing a lot of work done. So now we're talking about ortho. And then Elliot need a braces. So we're already talking about. We've already surpassed the five days of pto plus probably every single unpaid day. So on one hand I'm like, complaining and on the other hand I'm like, no, I'm so thankful. But like, I think everybody across the board, no matter what profession you are in, there's guilt. And then also just like no work life balance these days because we're all on technology. So then the other thing is, no matter who you are, no matter where you work, you're taking your work with you wherever you go. Yeah.

[Rebecca]

And especially like, people like us that do multiple things. Right. Like, my work doesn't turn off when my, that five o' clock hits because I, like have obligations outside of it. Like, if I didn't do any podcast, I wouldn't care about social media. I wouldn't pay attention to it as much. But like, social media is all consuming and like, you have to be relevant and stay up to date and keep people engaged in your life and what's going on for people to want to continue to support you in like these other endeavors. So it's like. But it's weird because it was weird because I was like, I like, was crying the other day to Leah and I was like, I feel like I'm not doing enough.

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[Rebecca]

And she was like, what do you mean? I was like, I'm like, I just feel like, like I'm not doing enough. Like I need to be doing more. She's like, you're out of your mind. Like, I don't even think you could do more if like you tried. And I was like, I don't know. It's just like a weird, like, balance. So figuring it out, figuring out how to be the best parent, figuring out what kind of parent I want to be too. And like, that's crazy because I know that I can never be a stay at home mom. Like, I could not entertain that child for 24 7. Like, I would end up not liking him. Like, presenting. Yeah. And like, I could do it if I had to. Like, if that was all, like, that was my only option. I can do it.

[Becky]

But do you think men, I have like, this really, really strong dislike for specifically white men in business suits. Okay, just try, just listen, hear me out and I'm going to tell you why. I fly first class a lot and I don't always look great in first class. I look like a troll. Like, I rolled out of bed. And then I see these typically white men in business suits also flying first class, and they look at me like, there's no way you're in this line with me. There's no way that you're about to get on this plane at the same time in group one. Right. And I always just wonder about their families. Like, they're obviously traveling back and forth in these like, fancy little business suits. But, like, did they feel guilty? Like, do men feel guilty for leaving their families the same way? And like, I get it, they're. They may be the breadwinner and they may have a great stay at home wife or partner at home with their kids, but do they feel guilty?

[Rebecca]

I. I would argue to say that good fathers feel guilty, but I would, like, I don't think that. I think that there's probably a lot of people that don't. I'm going to say something really controversial.

[Becky]

Okay. I'm scared

[Rebecca]

they said people might hate me for. Becoming a parent. Has made me understand why it's so easy for someone to like, leave their child and like, never look back. And like, not like, but. And I say that in the same breath as like, I don't understand how someone can up. Yes, they're like, but like, both can be true. Yeah. And like, because. And especially if like, say, say if someone gave birth and like, the father wasn't in the life of the kid and the parent and then like, never came around. Like, people are always like, how do you do? How do you just leave? Like, I get it. Like, you're so disassociated from like, being a parent. Like, I had no, even the first couple months of being a parent and I was around Becks, I could have left and, and like, kind of moved on with my life out of mind. Yeah. Well, not like I could, but like, I wouldn't be able to. But like, in the moment, I wasn't attached.

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[Becky]

So now take that and apply it to men then. Because men, if they don't know that they have a child, right? Like, say they get someone pregnant, they don't even know it's there. So mom doesn't know who the dad is. The dad has no idea. There's no biological thing there. And so I'm not defending it. No, I mean, but what I'm saying is like, you're the mom, right? Like you.

[Rebecca]

I think the disconnect, like the lack of presence, like, makes it really easy for.

[Becky]

That's what I'm saying. So for a man specifically, it's like. And they don't, in my opinion, a lot of them don't feel like. I said this the other day on some podcast, whichever one it was, I don't remember at this point. I said like a mom becomes a mother when she becomes pregnant. A father doesn't become a father until he meets his child. So to me, I can sort of resonate with what you're saying. I personally, it's crazy because like in the trenches of like the first year, I, I'm not a fan of the first year of. Yeah, like that first, like zero to one is really, really hard. You're delirious, you're. You're tired, you're probably resentful, you're wondering what the fuck is going on. But you won't feel like that forever. Yeah, like you saying, like, you know, some of the things that you said, you won't feel like that for him.

[Rebecca]

No, and I know that but, but I think that ultimately, like, it's a choice of that person. Like it's beyond wanting to be a father or beyond wanting to be a parent. It's like, like, like you have to wake up and choose actively to do that. It's not like in a lack of love. Right? Like that's. And I think that's what I'm trying to say is like a person isn't just naturally going to be in love with being a parent, not present with that child. Like if there's a disconnect between that, like it is a choice that they have to make to like, to be active. Like, that love isn't going to be like, love isn't going to be the reason they're doing it. Right.

[Becky]

Like, what do you mean?

[Rebecca]

Like there isn't. Just because you have a kid doesn't make you automatically like love them, right?

[Becky]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rebecca]

So like not having that presence of being around a child consistently and like, like further separate, like, yeah, like further separates those emotions. Like you have to choose like beyond love. Like it has to be such an active, conscious choice to be present and like that takes like a really good person to be able to do that.

[Becky]

I would agree.

[Rebecca]

Yeah. So maybe not as controversial as I thought.

[Becky]

No, it's that it's only in. It's only controversial in the sense that people probably feel the same way but will never admit it and they will probably comment on this as if they completely disagree, knowing full well they've probably experienced moments.

[Rebecca]

Yeah, I don't even in a malicious way either. I feel like I just like relate to it but like I up like again. On the other hand, it's like how

[Becky]

Kelsey, what else was asked in the Tick tock live your favorite vacation spots. Favorite vacation spot. Rebecca Hayter.

[Rebecca]

My favorite vacation spot. You know, different kinds of vacations come with different needs. I love an all inclusive. I don't. I. I'm my best self at an all inclusive. I love being in a pool.

[Becky]

If you drink you'll love an all inclusive. The food sucks. The food sucks. I do not give a single what anyone in this audience tries to tell me about an all inclusive. The food sucks.

[Rebecca]

I've been to all who sucks where food doesn't suck. No, I don't believe but I'm also again like food doesn't. My life doesn't revolve around food. So like I could eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich twice a day at an all inclusive and be happy. Like I'M not going there for the food. Like sunshine pool, open bar, my wife food. No. Food isn't. Like, I could eat chips and guac and be fine.

[Becky]

Like, my whole life revolves around food. And the amount of all inclusives that I've been to. Cruises have horrible food. You cannot convince me because the reason. Because it sucks. Because it has to be cheap. And it can't be. It's not seasoned. It hasn't. Like, it's horrible. I have not been to one single all inclusive that had good.

[Rebecca]

I have.

[Leah]

I have.

[Rebecca]

Yeah.

[Becky]

No, I don't believe you. You agree? 100.

[Leah]

You eat McDonald's.

[Rebecca]

Like, I love McDonald's.

[Becky]

Right. So it's like, it's like. No, no. Because you know what all inclusive and cruise food reminds me of? School lunches. It's like what?

[Kelsey]

Like at college I can call food.

[Becky]

Yeah. Like very cheap quality food with no flavor and it all tastes the same. It just. I don't know. I mean, Rebecca's saying that Disney food cruises, they have good food. I might be inclined to believe that because Disney.

[Rebecca]

What's your favorite vacation?

[Becky]

Okay, fine. Jamaica and Hawaii are two of my favorites. I'd say Hawaii is probably my favorite place on earth, even over Thailand, unfortunately. I loved Thailand, but Hawaii is my favorite place out of Jamaica. Turks and Caicos. The. That vacation was amazing to me. But Turks and Caicos doesn't have a whole lot going on. So if you want a chill vacation, that. And that was not all inclusive. That was not all inclusive. Neither is Hawaii. But the. What was I saying?

[Kelsey]

Everyone is chill vacation.

[Becky]

If you want a nice chill vacation with not a whole lot going on, not a whole lot of excursions, you could go to Turks and Caicos. I'm trying to think.

[Rebecca]

I really love the Greek islands when I went. But that's like more complex, right?

[Becky]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

Like, when I think of vacation,

[Becky]

I

[Rebecca]

think of just like pure relaxing and I'm back.

[Becky]

That's a lot of what they're asking.

[Rebecca]

There are different kinds of vacations.

[Becky]

There are like. There are like, ones that you, like, go on adventure. I'm the type of person on vacation. I'm getting up at six in the morning and I'm doing all of the things. Like I want to do every single thing every day. Yes.

[Rebecca]

No.

[Becky]

Out of us. If I'm going for seven days, I would say at least five of them. I would like to do something. And the other two days I would read. I would love that. Or it's like seven days and it's like five days. We do an activity. But then the rest of the day is chill. Like one activity per day. Not like filling the whole day. So then I can read the rest of the time, hang out the beach, whatever. But I don't want to really be in the room sleeping. That's not my thing for vacations. I remember I got in a fight with my ex when we were in Costa Rica. Because we're on day six and he's wanting to sleep and I'm like, we're leaving tomorrow. You didn't come to Costa Rica to lay on your back. You came to Costa Rica to zipline through waterfalls, to rappel off a mountain, to almost touch poisonous frogs. Like we need to be doing things. I then also got a pimple. Not a pimple, A bug bite on my ass cheek. And I scratched it so much that it turned into a scar. And now it looks like I have a mole on my butt cheek, but it's just a bug bite from Costa Rica. So that happened to me.

[Leah]

God bless.

[Rebecca]

You learn something new every single day. Fascinating.

[Becky]

Any other questions?

[Leah]

Yeah.

[Becky]

Also, that bug bit on my book sheet really bothers me so somewhat.

[Rebecca]

I'm looking at my questions too, and someone said, if y' all could. Which is so ironic because this is what we were talking about before. If y' all could move side by side on a big plot of land, would you? Yes.

[Leah]

I keep telling her to create a compound.

[Becky]

That would be good. We've been.

[Kelsey]

Honestly, Becky, like, are she serious? We've been talking to you about a compound for like, I have 20 acres.

[Becky]

Let's go.

[Rebecca]

You said you gotta rezone. Someone said, do you realize how lucky you are to have a friend like Becky? I swear to God, they do be

[Leah]

saying that you love techie.

[Becky]

What's on your question?

[Leah]

We say, actually some of them were for Becky. Oh, for Becky it was.

[Rebecca]

How's baby Bix?

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Baby is doing well.

[Rebecca]

He is seven and a half months old, which is wild.

[Becky]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

Not sleeping great. Not terrible. So can't complain too much. I think he's going to start crawling soon. For sure. He's crawling backwards, not forwards. Is that normal?

[Becky]

Yeah.

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[Rebecca]

I just have a bouncer, but I got a lot of people that message me that bouncers are bad for babies and like a limit time in them.

[Kelsey]

You should limit the time. Yeah.

[Rebecca]

So good to know. Yeah. Not much to say. Like life feels very. Just like same thing day in and day out with him, you know?

[Becky]

Yeah, I get that.

[Rebecca]

But he is so cute. Yeah, he's so cute. He laughs so much. He likes to do. You have to wait. Look at this video, guys. Everyone look at me.

[Becky]

All eyes on me. One, two, three.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

All right.

[Rebecca]

Lee and I were putting him to bed the other. The other night.

[Becky]

Can we talk about how hard it is to be a parent and how much it's so hard, and we just love them so much. Yeah. Like, there are several days that I want to rip my hair out.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, that's.

[Becky]

And I simultaneously am pulling my hair out and loving these little humans so much it, like, hurts.

[Leah]

Yeah.

[Becky]

The way that I would take a bullet 12 times over for my kids, but sometimes they drive me absolutely up the wall where I'm pulling my own hair out. Yeah. That's love. No, that is. But it's just like, when you really sit back and think of. Think about it, like, in a relationship, right? Like, when you have a boyfriend or a girlfriend or whatever, like, they can make you want to rip your hair out, and then you, in theory, could just leave them, never talk to them again. And you love them so much, but not like the. Like, not like a child.

[Rebecca]

I was gonna ask that.

[Kelsey]

Do you think that in, like, a long term relationship, like, a long marriage, eventually the love, it is still romantic, but it also turns familial, where it feels like they're your family.

[Becky]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Like, you love them like your family and you unconditionally. Like, they drive you nuts. But, like, I'm gonna take it. But you do think that happens?

[Becky]

Yeah, I do. I really do. And I would say that my relationship with Ike has taught me that very quickly. But so, like, if. If we were to break up, like, I would love him like family. Like, that's been. That's so weird to say. But I would love him like family. Like, I don't want anything bad to happen to him. I would root for him. I would savor Elijah like I would to this day. Like, don't talk. I can talk shit about Elijah, but nobody else would ever fudgeing, speak. Speak poorly about him. You know what I mean? Like, and I would take a bullet for him because he's. That's my family, you know? So it's so weird.

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[Rebecca]

Do you feel that way?

[Kelsey]

Like it's familial or. No, it's familiar. Yeah, like obviously it's not familial because she's not like your blood but you

[Becky]

love them like that. Like someone that is related to you almost.

[Rebecca]

Yeah, yeah, I would agree. I think, I mean I think relation. We've talked about this on here before. Like your relationship changes quite a bit when you become a parent too. Like love is has to be like spread out priorities and we're still just like in the thick of like everything. Like we go to bed at 8 after we put him to Bed. And then we're just, like, laying there and just like. It's just like, what is this? But again, he's like an infant. So things will just, like, constantly change. I'm just. Different structures of life, but I can see the appease to, like, one and done. Because, like, sometimes I'm, like, laying there, I'm like, we're gonna have to go through all this again.

[Becky]

You don't have to.

[Kelsey]

She wants to.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

Like, I want. I want to have a Leah baby, you know? Like, I want there to be, like, a Leah baby in this world.

[Becky]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

And, like, I'll love being a parent of two.

[Becky]

But, like, it's hard in the beginning. I mean, it's hard always. It's just a different kind of heart as they grow.

[Rebecca]

Yeah. So, like, I don't know how. You've done it seven times. Like, that shit's crazy. But also, you were younger, too. I think that helps as well.

[Becky]

Does it?

[Rebecca]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kelsey]

Because you're biologically, like. And please, like, I don't think women are only created to have children. Y' all know I don't feel that way. But biologically, you start becoming ready to have children when you have your period. So, like, I'm 35. I'm gonna be 35 in April. I started it by period at 11. That means I've gone 24 years of my body being biologically ready to have a baby. It was in its prime, probably in, like, 18, 19 years old, biologically. So, like, as I get older, I'm more tired. My body changes. Biologically, it's harder to get pregnant. It's harder to carry. Like, definitely. Biologically, as you get older, it's harder to parent.

[Becky]

I think I could see that.

[Kelsey]

Like, don't you feel like you're.

[Becky]

I had more patients when I was younger. Shockingly, I was. I will tell you, though, I think, though, with Elliot and Lincoln, I was 17 and 21. When I look back at the first year specifically, I mean, those two were the hardest for me in terms of sleep. But in every other aspect, I would say, like, for patience and discipline.

[Rebecca]

I think it's because you have less responsibility.

[Becky]

No, no, I. No, no. I'm saying I couldn't. I couldn't get up. Like, I had such a hard time with no sleep is what I'm saying now. I'm like, with Lux, I don't. And I think maybe because with Lux, for his first year, it was me or nobody else. There was nobody to help me. I didn't have somebody to rely on. I didn't have help that we didn't split custody. We didn't do it. And so I knew when he cried in the middle of night, it had to be me. Where the other two. I would struggle. I was. It was hard. And I remember just like being so tired for my first two kids where as time went on, I wasn't as tired.

[Leah]

You're also dealing emotionally with a lot.

[Rebecca]

Especially obviously during Elliot.

[Kelsey]

Like, so.

[Rebecca]

That's exhaust you too.

[Becky]

True. Yeah, true. And yeah. Anything else on your question list? I know you didn't get a whole lot from the TikTok because they go too fast.

[Leah]

Someone asked if we could do a family sports game for an episode like a Patreon.

[Becky]

Oh my God. Lincoln would freaking shit himself. He would. He all.

[Leah]

You ate. That's what zoo.

[Becky]

When we got that snowstorm, he's like. He came in my room, he's like, mom, can we go to a family soccer game? I said, not in the snow. We're not doing that in the snow. Cuz I will. This will be a liability and I will find. File a claim against my own. Help him. Insurance. Okay. Like, can't. Can't.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Okay.

[Rebecca]

Okay.

[Becky]

Okay. So, yes, we should. And Becky's on my team. Only because I.

[Leah]

Wait, they actually said Becky should teach you how to play soccer and then go against each other? That was. He's very specific.

[Becky]

I'm not a runner, so I need her to work with me. Is that against me?

[McDonald's Announcer]

Yeah.

[Leah]

Now they don't want Becky on your team.

[Rebecca]

I don't have an acl.

[Becky]

Then Link's gonna be on my team. Then.

[Rebecca]

It's Tornahan.

[Kelsey]

Wait, can you introduce who's on the team?

[Becky]

Oh, I'm sorry. One of our mods today. No, I'm just kidding. I just learned what a mod was, so now I'm gonna overuse it until I'm over it. Kelsey is one of our family friends. I've known her for a long time. She went to the college with me and she. We've reconnected over the last few years because she runs the basketball program that Lincoln and Lux play in. And so if you see her socials, that's sort of where our relationship started. Did I say she went to dsu? Yes. Okay, she went to dsu. We went at the same time. And so it's been probably 10 years at least. And so she got some questions from the Tik Tok Live that we did a little while ago, and so she's on a mic. Is there any other ones? Yep. Well,

[Leah]

Are you nervous for Elliot to go to college?

[Becky]

No, I think Elliot's going to thrive in college. I think if he picks the right school. We've had a little bit of conversations about college on here, kind of recent. I don't have people that I can necessarily go to for direction with in terms of my family. Well, what's interesting, people think I don't have family at all, but my mom's little brother is my home, obviously, is my uncle. And I do talk to him. He went to esu, which, oddly enough, is where Becky went and Ike. And then my mom's older brother went to Penn State. He's a doctor. And I have cousins that went to Penn State. And so I do have family members. They did go to college. I don't talk to all of them regularly. So I did recently reach out to Becky and to my mom's little brother who went to esu, and I was asking about colleges because Elliot going to college is coming up very quickly. And I never got to tour colleges and decide what I wanted to major in and do all of the things right. Like, it was sort of all an afterthought. And so I'm saying all this to say I'm not nervous about him going, but I think I gave him some insight on, like, making sure that he comes up with a list of schools that he's interested in, and then we actually go tour them, because not. It's not one size fits all. What this college has to offer is not going to be the same as what this college has to offer. And I want him to make an informed decision. And because I actually in high school, and even up until recently, I didn't know that touring colleges to go see if it was a good fit was a thing. Like, I had no idea. I thought people just blindly applied to colleges and never went to go see them.

[Rebecca]

That doesn't surprise me. No.

[Becky]

Like, I remember being in high school and Kutztown University. If you're from Pennsylvania, you've probably heard of it.

[Rebecca]

ESAC school.

[Becky]

It's a what?

[Rebecca]

A PSAC school. It's a state school.

[Becky]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

What? Yes, ESU is in the same conference.

[Becky]

D2. Kutztown came to visit for, like, an assembly or whatever. And I was like, okay, I'll just, like, apply there. Also, I think I barely had the GPA to even apply, but I didn't know that people would, like, set up tours and, like, their parents would take them. And then I briefly had this friend when I was 19. He was a little younger than me. He, like, told his parents he wanted to go to this college in Hawaii, and he went just to tour it. Just to tour it because he wanted to go to Hawaii for vacation. And I'm like, like. And I told Elliot that I'm like, we could go on long weekends to go visit all these, like, schools and, like, make, like, have fun with it, you know? Yeah. Do a little series. Do a little series. But I did tell him and Kelsey and you. I don't remember what you said, but kelsey definitely said 10 was too many.

[Rebecca]

Yeah.

[Leah]

Yeah, it's way too many.

[Becky]

Yeah, That's a lot.

[Rebecca]

Yeah.

[Leah]

Like, you tore 10.

[Rebecca]

But yeah, he doesn't like 10. You don't need to apply. Yeah.

[Becky]

So do you apply first or do you tour first? Because why would you tour if you don't even know if you're accepted? Because if you fall in love with a school, if you tour it and you fall.

[Rebecca]

Yeah, but why would you apply to a school that you don't know you'll like.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Right?

[Leah]

So, like, he can tour in 11th grade and you'll apply and talk.

[Becky]

No, but what I'm saying is, why would you want to do it? Because especially if it's out of state and you're flying, wouldn't you apply first, see if you get in and then for it? The application fee is smaller than the fee than the travel.

[Rebecca]

You don't find out if you get in, like, I don't know. I don't know what the time. I don't know.

[Leah]

Some people's doing, like, on the spot,

[Rebecca]

but I don't know what that looks like.

[Leah]

Some of the time frames are not,

[Rebecca]

I'm pretty sure, standard to tour before you apply. Because, like, what if he goes to school and absolutely hates it? Exactly. Why would, like, him apply?

[Becky]

Because why am I going to waste travel money?

[Rebecca]

I mean, I mean, most people don't go and tour, like, that many schools

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

with people that are.

[Becky]

Yeah, but even if it's five, I. Even if it's four schools, they go to our four schools. That's and. And say they're all out of state,

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

there's a school that you're really eyeing,

[Rebecca]

like, for him, if he's looking at a school that's, like, really big in fear and he's like, okay, I know

[Becky]

it's really far away.

[Rebecca]

That would be the one that you invest in to go see before he applies, to see if he even likes it. Typically you would go see it first.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Yes.

[Rebecca]

To make sure that it's a vibe like, that it fits.

[Becky]

That Would just break my own heart though, because say I go look at the school, that I'm upset, falls in love with it, fall in love with it. I mean, all like, we're talking hundreds, if not a thousand dollars to get on a plane to travel to whatever it happens, all the virus, and then you don't get accepted. Two does not feel like enough to me. When your niece, when you took your niece to go on college tours, how many tours did you actually do? Like in person tour tours for college?

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

We did.

[Kelsey]

We had four scheduled, but we ended up doing three because of the hurricane. The fulfillment had to be canceled in Florida.

[Becky]

How many? Without knowing what they answers were, how many schools would you suggest that I have Elliot put on his list? I'm not talking about tours. I'm talking about. No, just to research and then potentially apply.

[Kelsey]

At least five.

[Becky]

At least five.

[Kelsey]

Just because from my experience, like going to college as well, the differences in campuses, accreditations, like the lifestyle you're going to live at the school is really important as well to me too, because college is about the experience. Like, for example, my niece toured coastal Carolina in Myrtle Beach. I said, this is what your lifestyle will be like. If you go to this campus, you are going to either have to have a car or take busing to do literally anything. Because coastal, if anybody doesn't know, is right off a highway. There is nothing around there. The only other thing to do is go to Myrtle beach, which from coastal Carolina is about 30, 40 minutes away. So the majority of your socializing, your lifestyle will be on campus. Are you okay with that?

[Becky]

That?

[Kelsey]

Do you like a big campus? Do you want dorm, class size? Do you want, like class sizes? Do you want big lecture halls? Because some schools have lectures of 100, 200 students. I went to a really small college, so my classroom sizes were the same as they were in high school, which is like 36 kids, 32 kids. So it really depends. And I do think, like, culture in the area. Like, we went to Charleston, South Carolina. My niece is a black lesbian. I'm like, get the book out of here. So things are really important. Do you know what I mean?

[Becky]

No. That's why I'm asking.

[Kelsey]

So I think at least five. That's just my opinion.

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[Becky]

So my uncle, the one that's my mom's little brother, he went to esu. He was a teacher so he went for education. Education. And so I, I asked him also and he said now his daughter, which is my first cousin, she's in college now. She goes to the University of Scranton. And she said that my cousin Katie got accepted to 12 schools so she applied to more than 12. Right. So for what? What do you mean for what?

[Rebecca]

Like why do you need that many choices?

[Becky]

All I know is that I, I want to guide Elliot in the right direction and I. Joe never went to college. He never went to college. They can't speak on it. I did go to college, but I. I didn't have a choice but where I was. So because I had children at that time, I had to go where was local. And DSU was the only option, I think, outside of, because UD would have been too far for me. And then Wesley, I didn't even know existed until I was already in D. Like, I went to whatever was.

[Rebecca]

I think I'll send you, like, five schools to show him. It also depends, like, what he wants to do and, like, what.

[Becky]

No, no, I know. No, I say. All this to say is that these are the conversations that we're having over the next year or so. And the question was, am I nervous for him to go to college? No, I'm not nervous. I think Elliot is going to fucking thrive. I think that Elliot is going. I do cry just thinking about it. Like, towards you.

[Lauren]

Yeah, yeah.

[Becky]

Elliot's going to thrive in college. I don't. Obviously I'm nervous for him because I'm his mom, but I think he's gonna thrive. And I think he's gonna learn so much about himself. I think he's gonna learn so much about everything, life. So I'm excited for him. I'm nervous for myself because it's gonna

[Kelsey]

be like, a little.

[Becky]

I can't imagine a time in my life where one of my kids doesn't lick with me. Imagine.

[Rebecca]

Would none of them live with you?

[Becky]

No. Like, no.

[Leah]

I don't know.

[Becky]

They'll always have.

[Leah]

Yeah.

[Becky]

She'll be like.

[Leah]

Like I said, he was never leaving.

[Becky]

So Lux asked me if he can go back in my belly. Yeah. So no, I won't. I'm not nervous for him. Any other questions on tick?

[Rebecca]

I have a good question.

[Becky]

Okay.

[Rebecca]

Spencer gave a question. It's actually a really good one. Spencey. Thanks for the nice question, my bff. If karma worked instantly, who in your life would be in the. In trouble first? Oh, my God.

[Becky]

Okay.

[Rebecca]

I would probably say you.

[Becky]

Oh, I've received enough karma.

[Rebecca]

No, but I, I, but, but like, who in my life would receive karma first? Like, if karma.

[Becky]

I've already received mine. I'm tapping. You know the way that people constantly tell me, karma, karma, karma, karma. I've done. I've done my.

[Rebecca]

Oh, I get it.

[Becky]

My virtual jail time. I've done it.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

But we're gonna take it back to

[Rebecca]

two episodes ago and one episode ago about the trauma,

[Kelsey]

the vicarious trauma.

[Rebecca]

I love you, but you've had a wild ride of life.

[Leah]

It's just being your friend.

[Rebecca]

So that can't be.

[Becky]

I don't want any more karma.

[Rebecca]

No, I don't think you deserve any more karma. Honestly, I don't think you deserve it. I think that can universe just really needs to. To un grip, you know, can what

[Becky]

has happened in the last eight weeks for me. Can. Can that be the rest of like, can we fix the bow? That was like you're putting the cherry on top. We're conserving karma for things because the last eight weeks has almost taken me out. And I'm not kidding, I'm not being dramatic when I say that Becky, I trauma dumped on her between recordings and she didn't say anything.

[Rebecca]

I didn't say. She just hugged us. It's been rough every time I see her.

[Leah]

Hence another.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Another thing.

[Leah]

Every single time I. Yeah, in the last eight weeks. Every.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

And mind you, I see her almost every day. Yeah.

[Rebecca]

I'm gonna start getting a weekly report from Rebecca. She said she'd send it to me. So that she's gonna just send you

[Becky]

the play my place.

[Rebecca]

Yeah. Just so that I. I'm up to date on just. Just so I can talk to her.

[Becky]

Let's see if I have another.

[Rebecca]

Oh, you probably have good questions on yours.

[Becky]

That's what I'm getting. 1. Would Becky ever ride a horse? And are you going to try again? That is a very interesting question. Because before this recording, Becky showed me a video of her on a horse when she was a small child and she was riding western and I was like, no, I wasn't.

[Rebecca]

I was riding English there.

[Becky]

Oh, my bad. So will I try again? Yes, with football pads and a football helmet. No, on a barrel racing horse. And I would have to take lessons for a good amount of time before I get on another horse like that.

[Leah]

You need a Vinnie horse experience.

[Becky]

Here's a good one. People are asking, did Elijah answer your text ever? No, he still hasn't.

[Rebecca]

No.

[Becky]

He also wasn't responding to me when I was texting from your phone telling him to call me. So if that's any indication of his communication skill, he's doing better. Don't do him. Okay. If you could only save one.

[Rebecca]

Okay.

[Becky]

Would you save a baby dog? A puppy or pig? A cute little piglet.

[Leah]

What the kind of question is that?

[Becky]

Just Sabrina wants to know.

[Rebecca]

Probably a dog.

[Becky]

I probably saved the pig. Oh, I don't know.

[Rebecca]

I think I. I don't think I would have feelings like. I don't have. Like passionate.

[Becky]

No, don't say that. You're gonna piss a lot of people Off.

[Kelsey]

Don't sit there.

[Rebecca]

No, I don't have a passionate feeling about, like. Like, honestly, what goes through my head is if I save the pig, I

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

could eat the pig.

[Rebecca]

Like, that's why.

[Kelsey]

Because some animals we view as food and some animal moles we view as pets.

[Rebecca]

Yes. So, like, that's why my initial reaction is a dog. Because, like, the dog is a pet. But, like, I'm such a softy. Like, I, like, talk so much. And then Leah. Leah's been complaining or, like, really sad about the deer outside, and she's like, where do they sleep?

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

It's so cold.

[Becky]

Well, after they shake their antlers off, they probably sleep in your garage.

[Rebecca]

Yeah, all the deer sleep in my garage.

[Becky]

That's all that there was. No, there wasn't a good amount of questions at all.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Really.

[Becky]

Yeah.

[Rebecca]

I have more topics.

[Becky]

I probably have another one, too.

[Rebecca]

So a new thing Lee and I are doing is we ask each other what are. I forget the way she puts it. But, like, what. What the most best part of our day was. So I'm curious.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

What was the best part of your day?

[Becky]

Today?

[Leah]

Yeah.

[Becky]

Seeing you.

[Leah]

Oh, should I take advantage today?

[Rebecca]

Why would you be offended by that?

[Becky]

Because I didn't. I said it's not. I didn't say it was the best part of my day that I saw her.

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

You see her every day.

[Leah]

So. So every day I should be the

[Rebecca]

best part of her day. Selfish.

[Becky]

Well.

[Leah]

And it's my birthday week, so.

[Becky]

True. All about me. True. But I think you want to change your answer. What was the best part of your day?

[Rebecca]

What was the best part of my day?

[Sponsor Voice / Ad Host]

Honestly, everything.

[Rebecca]

Up until when we tried to record

[Becky]

the second episode, so I was really struggling.

[Leah]

Did you cry?

[Becky]

Yeah, that's mumble. No.

[Rebecca]

Let me think about it. Let me think about it. What was the best part of my day?

[Becky]

You have about two minutes. Because we do have to prepare for this meal.

[Kelsey]

Don't say Dave's Hot chicken.

[Rebecca]

No, I wasn't thinking of that. I'm just thinking about a moment that I felt.

[Kelsey]

Felt happy.

[Leah]

So I'm like, probably when we showed the video. Bex.

[Rebecca]

Yeah. That wasn't. That was good.

[Kelsey]

Or Facetiming him.

[Rebecca]

Now I'm trying to think of, like. I can't. I. Like there's something itching in my brain right here. It was.

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[Rebecca]

You know what the best part of my day was?

[Becky]

What?

[Rebecca]

It was when we said the same word at the same time. And I don't remember what word it was, but, like.

[Becky]

Anyway.

[Rebecca]

Yeah, we were like.

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We Were just in sync in that moment.

[Rebecca]

I was like, yeah, we're.

[Becky]

We're.

[Rebecca]

We're. We're like this. You know, some of you knew that you did smile when that happened. Yeah, I felt good in that moment. That was like a. A good, good nice moment.

[Becky]

You know what my favorite part of the day was? When someone just made a payment back to me for money. I lend them. Yes.

[Leah]

Love what shirts? Was love that for you?

[Becky]

Love that for you? Yep. We were in single.

[Rebecca]

I have something.

[Becky]

Okay.

[Rebecca]

I saw an interesting clip of Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. They were promoting their new mov was pretty good, if anyone wants to watch that on Netflix. But it was Matt Damon that was. And he was speaking about how now in movies that they're being more conscious that they have to repeat the plot multiple times because they know that people are distracted watching TV and, like, watching movies. So, like, if you. If you forget if, like, they say something once in the beginning, that's important for, like, the plot as a whole, that they're intentionally repeating it because they know that people are, like, distracted watching their phones, like, watching that are.

[Becky]

That's really concerning, right? Like, that's really concerning. But they're making. The new thing is these vertical micro dramas where they film, like, you know how on YouTube in order to monetize is 10 minutes, but sometimes people will upload things for 20 minutes or they'll upload a podcast that's an hour long. They're cutting this into one to three minute clips, an entire show into one to three minutes, leaving every single. Every single episode on a cliffhanger. And that is what they're doing for reality shows now because of people's attention spans and because of reels and tick tocks and such cracks.

[Rebecca]

Crazy. I've never seen that.

[Becky]

And the way that they're getting paid, obviously, that's very different from like a reality TV show or a game show where you get paid an episodic rate. Or on the flip side, I've been on reality shows where you get a lump sum and then you pay whoever whatever you want, want. The way that they're funding bees is through sponsors, the same way that you can do on YouTube or for a live event where a sponsor puts money behind it. And so that is the new like up. And I think. I think, don't quote me on this, but I believe this is like a. Like, China started this. Like, the producers and filmmakers in China have started this, and now it's coming over to America. And that is what we're Doing it's an interesting concept that I would be willing to try because it's no different than the content that I'm already doing. It doesn't interfere with the content that you're already doing. Where one of the things about Teen mom specifically was they didn't want me filming content for my social media that was already on the show. Because if it's on social media, it can't. It doesn't benefit them where this. This type of situation is in conjunction with whatever type of content you're already doing. So, like, we would still be able to do a vlog on YouTube for killing the chaos, but I could also do this, like, vertical for killing the chaos. That is in conjunction with.

[Leah]

With.

[Becky]

Yeah. So it's interesting. And the other thing is that the creators and the people that they're focusing on, these are more in control. Like, they have more of, like, a hand in it versus a reality show where everything gets chopped and screwed and edited and all the things. This is more like the creators have create. They have creative control as well. Yeah. Right now in China, it's a lot of scripted versions. So it's like it's a soap opera. No, but until one. They do. Yes, but within one to three minute clips of, like, a scripted series face. So now they're trying to bring it over here and then also do, like, the reality unscripted.

[Rebecca]

Yeah, but what I can say, though is I did a foot peel the other day. My feet are starting to peel, and it freaks. I've done that before too.

[Kelsey]

And it peels days later, which is so weird.

[Rebecca]

It's weird.

[Becky]

Wait, when you describe a foot peel, I think that you're talking about like. Like a mask.

[Rebecca]

Yeah, you leave it on your feet. And now my feet are peeling.

[Becky]

But why do they peel?

[Rebecca]

Because it's getting on the day.

[Becky]

It's. It's. Yes, but why?

[Rebecca]

I don't know why you don't have gross feet.

[Becky]

No, but, like, why. Why does it take days for it to peel? Like, and why does it go through a peeling process? Oh, no, I don't. I can't.

[Leah]

It's got to go through the layers.

[Becky]

I can't. All right, I'm sorry that we don't have an. We don't have an. Is it karma or is it chaos? Today, we are pressed for time. I appreciate Kelsey for joining us and Alessandra Rebecca, as always. We'll see you next week.

[Rebecca]

We'll see you next week.

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[Becky]

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