
In this emotional final episode of BMND, Kail and Vee share their decision to close this chapter, offering listeners an inside look at the journey leading to this moment. They discuss how long they’ve grappled with this choice,...
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Leah Messer
Charge applause Baby Mamas so I'm back to answer some of your questions. We have seen them, we've read them, and we were actually never intending to leave you guys in the dark. And unfortunately the bad news is that I have decided to part ways from V on this show and I don't want you guys to get too sad because although Baby Mamas is at its end, I have something really exciting taking its place next Tuesday. So I don't want you guys to get too upset. This obviously wasn't an easy decision and so that's why you guys have gone without answers for some time now. V and I needed to get our shit together off camera and off the podcast before we could come to you guys with answers. That being said, I do want to jump into sort of where where we're at. I think that there has been a lot going on behind the scenes and we just didn't know how to verbalize it in a way that was comfortable for both of us. I think part of the reason that we've had such a hard time even figuring out how to do this is because V and I have very separate visions for what Baby Mamas was to start and what baby Mamas is today. So it's no secret that I share just about everything about my life from, you know, co parenting struggles, baby daddy drama, my own personal problems. You guys know I've shit my pants, right? Like I pretty much say everything and I and that's sort of how I've built my entire following is from being transparent from the first time you guys saw me on 16 and pregnant until now. And so that's never really changed. And I do fully understand that that is not everybody's mo. That is absolutely their right. Everybody's right to choose what they want to say and what they don't want to say. That being said, I do think that, you know, we, we did create Baby Mamas under, you know, I was under the impression that Baby Mamas was, would be more of an extension of our personal lives and we would be able to share more of our co parenting struggles and our co parenting journey. And so when V and I are not aligned on that front, it makes it really, really difficult to do this podcast. Right. So many times, you know, her and I have sort of brushed things off as best as we could to try to keep the podcast going and try to keep it authentic and still share what we can. But that hasn't always been able to happen the way that I think either of us planned. And so, you know, that being said, Baby Mamas is done. This is our last episode. Like I was saying, things have been going on for a long time off the podcast and I just don't agree with it. And so I think that's part of the struggles that we face when we're on the podcast is we are older now. We do have more perspective on, you know, what our kids can hear, what they know, what they see and how it's spun in social media and things like that. And so I think when you take that into account, and, you know, I can't, I can't force V to explain her side. I also can't expect that she'll side with me against Joe. I can't. There's. It just, it's seemed like a really good idea to do Baby Mamas until we started to do it. And then it was just really hard to balance the actual family part with the business. The idea for this podcast originally was to talk about our own struggles with co parenting and how we got to where we are. But I think that it's important to note that being friendly with your co parent or your co parent significant other does not actually make you friends and it doesn't actually make you co parents, especially when things get rough with Joe and myself. She's not a third, she's not a referee. And so it makes it very difficult for V to then talk about certain things on the podcast because where I think of it as showcasing our struggles and how we're working through them, I think that. So she didn't want to disrespect her husband. Whereas I thought that this was what the podcast was about to begin with. So I think in that way there really is creative differences because we were on two different pages about what baby mamas is. And so because of that we had to bring it to an end. We are not seeing eye to eye on how to handle things off the scenes and then not agreeing to both talk about certain things on the podcast. And so I don't think that there needs to be shade, I don't think that there needs to be a knockdown, drag out argument about it. And I don't think either of us is wrong, right? Like I gave birth on TV at 17 years old. Like this isn't, this is how I built everything up until the this point. I think what's frustrating is that we were missing the mark. I think we were just like missing the mark from each other and we didn't have the tools and the skills to talk about it in a productive way outside of the podcast. And so we were showing up to the podcast just as business partners, not as friends, not as co parents, not as anything else other than business partners. And I just don't want to operate that way. I just don't know that there was a way to carry on the business without being fully aligned. There are a lot of layers to this decision. And having a business with V, I guess we'll call it a situationship, right, because we have a business together, but we also have to maintain some sort of relationship off the podcast. This is truly an awakening for both of us because I think that we got so caught up in the idea that we are co parents when in fact I think that V and I are friendly with each other and we were able to make this work for as long as it has by being friendly. Only now do I recognize that. I don't think that I was fully acknowledging that in the four years that we've had this podcast. I think that recognizing that is important and not continuing to, you know, put on the show. I would hate for people to come up with their own conclusions here and I would hate for people to villainize me in this situation when they hear this episode and they sort of understand the dynamic, what's going on off camera and off the podcast because I really just don't want this to get ugly in any way, shape or form. So I think that V and I have done our best to talk about this in the best way that we can. I think this is the extent of our comfort level in Talking about the situation right now, I think that there is a possibility that I could go more in depth in the future on, you know, Barely Famous or possibly the new show that's taking this place on Tuesdays. But for now, I would like to see it remain this way. I would like to see everyone remain neutral from our audience standpoint. And with that being said, though, like, we have loved and laughed on this podcast, right? Like, there have been some incredible moments. There's been some incredible breakthroughs. There has been good conversation, even if it wasn't necessarily about our own situation. We have talked a lot about where we started as, you know, Joe's girlfriend and Joe's baby mama and how that sort of evolved. And it did evolve. So even though we're not completely aligned right now, I do still think that there was. There has been a lot of growth and a lot of progress overall, because if we didn't have the business and we didn't partner up to do this, we might still hate each other. So, you know, from the beginning. So I definitely think that there has been some still really good, good moments. And we've laughed a lot about, you know, funny stories that the community that we've built have sent in and some down in the DMs that we'll never forget and all the Nick Cannon jokes. And so there have been some really, really great moments. But, you know, I wish Joe and V nothing but the best. And I hope the kids are happy, healthy, thriving at their house. And I know that Isaac is happy, healthy, and thriving over here, and that's all that we can. We can do moving forward is hope for the best, you know, outcome for Isaac and the kids. So I. I think just keeping our own families at the forefront and making sure that they're always a priority. I think that this. This podcast itself was probably causing a lot of stress on both ends because we weren't seeing eye to eye. And so then Elijah hears it, and then Joe hears it, and it's sort of like two very different, differing perspectives. And, you know, I don't really necessarily want Isaac to be online and looking up all kinds of rumors and things like that from assumptions that you guys might make from. From all of this. And so I apologize for not getting this explanation to you guys sooner. I think that you guys deserve this explanation. I think you guys deserve answers because you've stuck with us up until this point. I mean, I think that a lot of people were also confused because we did just have a really great live show in Ohio. We had Alessandra V, Lindsay. We were all, you know, finally getting together, and that was something we had talked about for a really long time. And so there's a lot of confusion sort of stemming from, oh, but they were just together in Ohio. And I think just to add a little, you know, context to that, I think that that right there was an example of how V and I are friendly, but we are not necessarily co parents and friends, and so we can make things work the best that we can. And I think, you know, I still want to. I still want to continue to support her and vibe in and kind of thrive in. I absolutely still want to support that. I still want to continue to help advertise that. I still want to help them grow that podcast in any way that I can. And so I think there's some. Some. Something to be said for that, right? Like, I. I have no ill will towards her, and I don't want anyone to leave, you know, leave this podcast or. Or listen to this podcast and run to the Internet and be like, oh, you know, Kale couldn't bully V into, you know, talking about things. I think that I'm allowed to say as much as I want about my personal life, and V is allowed to say as little as she wants about her personal life, and that is okay. Both things can be true, and it just means that we're not completely aligned. So I think that, you know, there's still a potential for, you know, V and I to work together in a business capacity through podcasting in the future. I just don't necessarily think that we need to have a podcast together. I don't want anyone to feel any differently about either of us. You know, moving forward. I think that we can both have respect for each other without working together. We. I. I'm speaking for V and myself. We wholeheartedly appreciate every single listener that has supported this community and been a part of this family, because it has truly felt like family. We've laughed and gotten to know so many of you on just, you know, interacting on social media, listening to the podcast, reaching out through dms. Like, we feel like we have built a family and a community through this podcast. And so I don't want that to go unappreciated because I know that V. I'm sure V. Would say the same thing. And I think that the way that all of this sort of transpired off the scenes is exactly how it transpired on the podcast. And so we're coming to you this late in the game because we were still trying to figure it out in real time with our real family, in real life. Before we came to the podcast, as things were sort of getting figured out, it was like, okay, we'll take individual episodes and then, and then, you know, we ran a best of because it still sort of wasn't worked out. And and truly in full transparency, this ending right here, right now was not in the cards. You know, over the last month that we've been having some issues. It couldn't continue and especially couldn't continue without an explanation. So I think that's also something to be considered. But I thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for even giving us this chance and growing with us and laughing with us and sending us dms and all kinds of things.
Vee Rivera
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Vee Rivera
Hi baby mamas. This feels a little weird. Um, at this point I'm just gonna get into what I need to say. And yeah, I know you guys have known me for like a very long time. It's almost unbelievable how long I've had these relationships like online with people and everyone following me and everything. It's crazy. But I know you guys barely saw glimpses of my daughter on Teen mom. And you know, even me, I think I always try to keep everything very minimal. For me, like the spotlight was never really my goal. Right. So it's just been really difficult for me to share as much as I felt was helpful and while still trying to maintain, like, a little bit of privacy. You guys know I'm very. I'm not a secretive person, but I do, you know, I respect my privacy as well as the privacy of people around me. And that includes, you know, my husband, my kids, just my family in general. And as Vivi gets older, as Isaac gets older, their access to these conversations, whether it's on, you know, Instagram Stories or the podcast, no matter where it is, just on any corner of the Internet, just, I want to maintain as much of my family's privacy as I can across the board. And this is a decision that I made for just my mental health, and it wasn't made lightly. And this is just for the overall, like, well, being of my family. So I just, I'm just taking a step back from sharing as much as I have to. And with that being said, I know with this podcast it's been. It's hard, right? Like, sometimes it feels like therapy, and sometimes you kind of just let things out, and when it's just you and another person, it's hard to think that there's thousands and thousands of other people listening and taking everything in and, you know, sometimes even taking what you say and kind of not really taking it for what it is or making it something else, whatever the case may be. It's very easy to just say what you have to say and think that it's just going to, like, go into the void. And it really puts things into perspective for me when I truly look at it in a way where if I am in a room and there's thousands and thousands and thousands of people around me, I would not be probably saying any of these things. So it just makes it so much easier when you're just podcasting and letting things go. And it's so. It's hard to draw that line sometimes. And it's been really difficult for me because you guys do know I am. I'm a person that does love, I enjoy my privacy. And you will probably notice, like, across all my platforms going forward, this is just something that I am going to take a step back. And to me, I think this stage of my life is the part where I just truly want peace. It's nothing to do with anybody else. It's just me and my family and me and myself and just prioritizing what's best for me. Like, I am in my. About to be my mid-30s, like, 33 years old. I just want peace, and I just feel Like, I'm doing you all a disservice by not being able to be maybe as transparent as you all expect or have come to expect from me. I know when we started the podcast, I just. I could never, never in a million years imagine that we could create something so large. And it's just such an amazing community. Like, we have mothers, friends, family. Like, you guys are basically family in my eyes. And nothing will ever change that. I'm so grateful for all of the support over the years, and I couldn't. I just can't continue to put out the content that you all come to expect and love. So it definitely is with a sad heart that I make this decision to step back for not just myself, but for my family as well. It's been. It's been really tough. I think my whole thing has been kind of just leaving you guys. It makes me really sad because I think over the past four years, I have connected with you guys on so many different levels, even down to the DMs that you guys have sent me and being so open and honest about your lives, not just me. I mean, I think this journey has been amazing for not just me, but for so many other people. And giving you guys the space to be open and vulnerable, I think is amazing. And I'm glad that we were able to create a space where you all are able to do that, whether it was with the co parenties or the down in the dms. Like, you guys are amazing overall just for being open and being just vulnerable as hell and being able to send us all of those things and have us read them and give you our opinions and things like that. And with that, I want to thank you guys and just truly tell you that I appreciate every single one of you. And I hope that in all of this, I can just inspire you all to do what's best for yourself, above all, above anything else. This decision was very hard, and it's just. It's not really how I expected this journey to go at all. If you guys would have asked, you know, even a couple months ago if this is what was going to happen, I would have said no. Like, there's. There's so much more to do. There's so much more left, you know, but life is. Life is unexpected. Life. That is what it is. And I'm actually really grateful, you know, and I'm. I'm at peace with this. And it's made me realize that I can handle way more than I thought I could. Like, it's given me the Power to pursue something different. Like, I am going after something really different right now. And it's something that I've wanted to do for a while, but just didn't quite have the time or I just. I guess I just also didn't have that push. And I do, and I'm going after. Going after it and just going after change, even in the face of fear, is something that I am. I feel really good about. And it's something that I've had to come, you know, face to face with, and I'm proud of myself for that. So I think in even instances like this, there is. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, even when it feels hard. And I just want to truly tell you guys that I've learned so much in these past four years. I think we all have. I've had so many moments in the show where I have felt very relieved and knowing that I'm not alone and talking about certain things, whether it's like, my mental health or anxiety or just anything. You guys have given me that space and that you've given me nothing but, like, positive feedback and great energy back. And it's made me feel a lot less alone in motherhood, in friendship, in my relationship, everything. So I just wanted to take the time and truly tell you guys that I appreciate y'all and I love y'all from the bottom of my heart. Like, baby mamas has changed my life in that aspect where I feel like I've had, you guys, know, I haven't had a village in quite some time, and you guys felt like that for me. You definitely felt like my little village. So that's where I'm sad, because I'm just going to miss you guys and doing this every week. There's been a lot of great things. You know, there's been a lot of challenges. And I know, like, for you guys, our real lives is not entertainment. You know, as much as we want to entertain you guys, the lines between that and, like, what's personal and what's entertainment like, I feel like they're. Maybe they're becoming too entangled, and things just got really. Things just get. Got really hard. I feel like this has opened the door for so many other people to also just go for what they want. Like, so many people have DMed me and said, you know, me and my best friend want to start a podcast, or, you know, me and my co parent want to start a podcast, and I can't even tell you how many times I've read that. And it's put a smile on my face. And I think we've done so many great things overall. Like, I think the positive does outweigh a lot of the negative. And what we've done, what we've able to. What we've been able to do with the podcast. I also would love for other Latina podcasters to step out of their comfort zone and do what they love as well and take the risk. Just overall proud of what we've done and the little community that we've built here. And I don't want you guys to think for one second that I have not thought about you throughout this whole process or this decision. And it's eating me up alive just thinking about you guys and trying to keep things where you guys understand and trying to be as transparent as possible with you guys. It's been. Yeah, it's been really hard to even sit here and talk about this. Everything is okay. I'm doing good, I think. You know, I'm excited for the future, and I want everyone else to be excited, too. I don't want. I mean, I know everyone's gonna be sad that the podcast is ending, but this is, like, new beginnings for everyone, you know, everyone involved in the podcast, everyone that's helped and has been a part of the podcast. I appreciate everyone genuinely, and it's been. It's been, you know, it's been a. It's been a long four years, but we've done a lot, and I am appreciative of everything. I just think moving forward, this is obvious, obviously the best decision for us and our families, and I'm. I'm truly, genuinely okay with that. And I wish the best for everyone. This is the end of a freaking era. I mean, I was going back and, like, listening to some of our older episodes not too long ago, and I was just like, wow, like, everything. You can tell the change in us from, like, the first episode to even, like, towards the end. Like, it's been. Yeah, it's been a rollercoaster ride, but I've enjoyed it. I've definitely enjoyed doing this. And every week, coming at you guys with content, I've truly enjoyed making content for it. I think this is something that I've really come to love, and this is what has propelled me towards, you know, what I'm going to be doing in the future. And I'm really excited about it. But, you know, being able to create the content for the podcast weekly, the video content, and, you know, just editing and even working on merch, like that first Round of merch and stuff like it has, you know, I've done things that I've never done before, and it was really fun, and I was able to be creative, and that's an outlet that I always want to keep in my life. This is not the end of my journey. This is just the beginning, baby. I think there's so much more left that I want to do. I just, you know, I hope you guys will still join the ride, I guess. Overall, I just want to say thank you all for listening to me mamas every week, for always tuning in. Thank you for every vote. Thank you for every review. Even if it wasn't so nice. I always, you know, took everything into consideration. I did my best and, you know, just. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for your input. Thank you guys for literally sticking with us. If anyone's been here with us since the beginning, since day fucking one, you are a true ride or die. A true baby mama and you forever be. But I also, I just wanted to, I guess, kind of go down memory lane. Like, I have so many memories and so many fun things from this show. I loved when we were podcasting in person. I think the dynamic was so fun. We always had so much fun. I loved going into the office and just. Just bullshitting and talking shit. And those were some of my favorite favorite times and episodes. Especially the one with the. The cum necklace was definitely my favorite. I will never get over that. The fact that Etsy still has and sells shit like that still makes me laugh. Sensationally bold, I think. Will forever be iconic. Shout out to Keem, because I definitely miss him. He had a great role in Baby Mamas Whenever we would record and have his little perspective, it was great to have a male's perspective thrown in there. When the girl left her baby daddy's ashes at her booty calls house, and I swear the only thing I could think of was him vacuuming up his rug and then just vacuuming up her baby daddy. It was so funny. What else? There's another. The other down in the DM where the freaking guy faked his death and had his doctor brother write up a fucking. What was it like, a false death certificate? I will truly, truly like this. It's insane. And just the people who wrote in these stories, you would forever be missed, and that is just iconic. I can. I can go on and on. I don't even know. I just. We've also had some really great guests. Like, we've had Lady Gang. We've had Shrink Chicks. We've had Good moms, bad choices. We've had a lot of co parenting people on, too, and we've learned some great things. We've had Bethany Frankel on. That was a really great interview. We talked a lot about, like, supporting your girls and just the industry and things like that. That was a great one. I think we've. We've tried to hit, like, every avenue we could as far as talking about co parenting, motherhood, you know, going when we were going through our pregnancies, depression, anxiety, mental health. There's just so many avenues that I think we were able to tap into. And wow, just thinking about it is just, like, very eye opening. I'm glad that we were able to do that. And I'm glad that, like, I'm sure even listening to any one of our episodes, you can get something from the episode. And that that was always my main goal, you know, Like, I did. I wanted something light. I wanted something fun and open, and I do feel like I've done that. And I feel like, you know, I feel like this was also, like, a healing journey in some type of way for me as well. Like, I feel like I have healed so many parts of me just being able to talk about my mental health on here. And I know y'all are my therapist. Like, trust me, I know y'all not my therapist. But damn, like, sometimes it did feel like a therapy session. Like, just even thinking about the episode where I broke down, because I just missed my fucking family, man. Like, I missed my family. And I was just going through it out here. And sometimes I just feel so alone out here. And fast forward to now, like, being able to have someone really close to me here, like my sister and having that village back, it just came full circle for me, this whole thing. And it ended it for me on such a positive note. Like, I'm glad I'm able to go through this now and have my sister here to guide me and help me. So I'm really grateful in that. And I just. I know this is a sad episode for you guys. Trust me, this is. This is pretty sad for me too. But I just want to. I just want to really remind you guys of how much we've learned and grown all together. Like, all together as a family unit, because that's what uer. And in this part of my life, I'm just trying to focus on the positive now and just moving forward. Like, I just want. Like I said, I think the whole point and the whole goal is to just have peace all around. You guys have heard you know, the kids grow up on here. Wow. You literally hearing their voices in different episodes. It's crazy. I was just listening to the episode of Vivi the other day because I was looking at old videos that I made, and it's not. It doesn't even feel that long ago, but it was. It's just such a huge change. And, yeah, it's. It's really crazy to think about. And thank you guys for always being there and being a cheerleader for Veebs as well, and the kids, just all of them in general. Y'all truly are like the aunties of the Internet. So I will never, like, take that lightly. I love how much you guys love us and our kids. Yeah, I'm just. I'm so grateful. And I just feel like, like I said, you can take something from our episodes. You can learn something. I think, if anything, what I've truly wanted to put out there and to help with everyone and in hearing our episodes is just to be genuine in whatever you do. Don't be afraid to be vulnerable. I think there's strength in being vulnerable, and that is forever how I will feel. Don't give up. Like, life. I know right now, especially for everyone, I think everyone's kind of going through a lot of shit in their life. Like, it's not. Not just me, not just this. Not just this podcast. I'm talking about real life. Like, I know everyone's going through a lot and just having faith and having, like, that hope and knowing that things are going to be. Things are going to go up, you know, and there's always a light at the end of the tunnel. As cliche as it sounds, you might feel like this might be, you know, something that's like, oh, God, how am I ever going to get through this? But, you know, we've already gotten through the worst moments of our lives, or at least the moments that we felt were the worst moments of our lives. So think about it like that. Nothing has broke us before. So I just truly want everyone to know, like, you are strong. Everyone here. You are all so strong and beautiful, and I just. I wish the best for everyone and moving forward. Like I said, this is not going to be the end of me. I have something that I am working on, and I would love for you guys to be a part of it. It's called the Cheesemake Corner, and I'll be talking about, you know, everything from reality TV to just kind of like, motivational things and things that get me through my day, like, not going too personal. Into my life, but kind of giving everyone a little pep in their step, a little confidence, a little self motivation. So that is a space where I'm going to do my best to do that. And I'm really excited about. I think that's truly something that I really want to do and, you know, just catch up on shows. Y'all know I love watching TV shows and, you know, we'll do movies and things like that and celeb gossip or whatever. It may be just like society and culture stuff, and I think it's gonna be fun. Yeah, it's like a whole new journey for me, but still trying to stick in this space and do what I love. So I hope you guys will still, you know, join me for the ride. And there's just. There's so much more left to do. There's so much more life. So I hope this has, you know, been something inspiring for all of you. Just remember, follow your heart. Fill your cup with things that you love and moments that you truly cherish, please. I know you know, things are rough in the world right now, and I think just being able to stay in the moment and cherish these moments because we're never going to get them back, I think it's so important if we can all just do that. Stay grateful for everything that you guys have. And here's to knowing when to pause, when to pivot, and when to persist. I love you all and we'll talk soon.
Leah Messer
I don't want you guys to give up on me just yet because this podcast, it may be no longer, but next week is the start of something new on Tuesday mornings. And so that's really exciting. And I think that in the meantime, you know, V will focus on all of her business ventures and endeavors and vibe in and kind of thrive in. And I will be continuing my podcasting journey on a separate. On a separate path. But. But hold tight because next Tuesday has some big things happening. So stay tuned to get all the big announcements. First, head over to Kayla.com and sign up for my newsletter. Pluto TV is a place for movie fans like me and TV fans like me. They've got something for everyone, and it's free.
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Vee Rivera
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Leah Messer
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Podcast Summary: "The End of an Era" - Baby Mamas
Episode Information:
In the poignant episode titled "The End of an Era," hosts Leah Messer and Vee Rivera announce the conclusion of their beloved podcast, Baby Mamas. This episode serves as both a farewell and a heartfelt reflection on their journey together, addressing the reasons behind their decision to part ways and sharing their individual future plans.
Leah Messer opens the discussion by addressing their loyal listeners directly:
"Unfortunately, the bad news is that I have decided to part ways from V on this show and I don't want you guys to get too sad because although Baby Mamas is at its end, I have something really exciting taking its place next Tuesday." (00:44)
She emphasizes that this decision was not made lightly and acknowledges the community's support throughout their run.
The primary reason for ending Baby Mamas stems from creative differences between Leah and Vee. Leah explains that their visions for the podcast had diverged over time:
"V and I have very separate visions for what Baby Mamas was to start and what Baby Mamas is today... When V and I are not aligned on that front, it makes it really, really difficult to do this podcast." (04:50)
She highlights challenges in balancing personal transparency with business operations, noting that their differing approaches to sharing personal life details created tension.
Both hosts share fond memories and significant milestones achieved during their time on the podcast. Leah reminisces about memorable episodes and the growth they experienced:
"Looking back, if we didn't have the business and we didn't partner up to do this, we might still hate each other. So, you know, from the beginning." (11:30)
She underscores the positive impact the podcast had on their personal growth and the strong community they built.
Leah delves into how maintaining the podcast affected their personal relationships and mental health. She touches upon the strain it placed on their co-parenting dynamic:
"The podcast itself was probably causing a lot of stress on both ends because we weren't seeing eye to eye... And so Elijah hears it, and then Joe hears it, and it's sort of like two very different, differing perspectives." (10:15)
Vee Rivera also contributes by discussing her decision to prioritize family privacy and mental well-being:
"This is a decision that I made for just my mental health, and it wasn't made lightly. This is just for the overall well-being of my family." (16:36)
Leah and Vee outline their individual paths moving forward. Leah hints at a new show and other creative ventures:
"But this is the beginning, baby. I think there's so much more left that I want to do... I'm really excited about it." (26:45)
Vee mentions focusing on her business ventures and personal projects, ensuring continued support for each other's future endeavors without collaborating on a podcast.
Both hosts express immense gratitude towards their listeners, acknowledging the community's role in their success:
"We wholeheartedly appreciate every single listener that has supported this community and been a part of this family... It has truly felt like family." (20:50)
Leah encourages listeners to remain positive and pursue what’s best for themselves:
"Follow your heart. Fill your cup with things that you love and moments that you truly cherish, please." (35:30)
Leah Messer:
"Being friendly with your co-parent or your co-parent significant other does not actually make you friends and it doesn't actually make you co-parents, especially when things get rough." (07:20)
Leah Messer:
"Don't give up. Like, life... there's always a light at the end of the tunnel." (37:15)
Vee Rivera:
"I want peace, and I just feel like I'm doing you all a disservice by not being able to be maybe as transparent as you all expect or have come to expect from me." (16:36)
"The End of an Era" serves as a heartfelt goodbye from Leah Messer and Vee Rivera, encapsulating their journey, struggles, and triumphs with Baby Mamas. While the podcast concludes, both hosts look forward to new beginnings, carrying forward the lessons and relationships forged over the past four years. They leave their audience with messages of strength, gratitude, and encouragement to embrace change and pursue personal happiness.
Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript, which appears to be from the Baby Mamas podcast featuring Leah Messer and Vee Rivera, rather than the initially mentioned Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter. If there was an error in the provided information, please ensure the correct transcript aligns with the intended podcast for accurate summaries in the future.