ADRIAN GRENIER & UFC CHAMPION HENRY CEJUDO

Summary

Kat on the Loose with Adrian Grenier & UFC Champion Henry Cejudo
Podcast Summary – May 13, 2026

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Overview

In this dynamic and candid episode of Kat on the Loose, host Kat Zammuto sits down with actor/producer Adrian Grenier (best known for “Entourage”), UFC legend Henry Cejudo, and collaborators from their buzzworthy new film and project Self Custody. The conversation covers career pivots, the realities of acting and fighting, crypto finance’s promise and pitfalls, lessons in parenting, and the art of building work that matters. Listeners get an insider’s take on Hollywood, personal sovereignty, and the vulnerability beneath public success.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Henry Cejudo: From UFC Champion to Acting Debut

• On acting for the first time: Henry shares how friendship with Garrett was the key driver, and how his athlete persona “The King of Cringe” laid groundwork for becoming a character on screen.
  • “As a fighter, I’ve always kind of created a character…” (01:18 – D)
• The rigors of filming action scenes: Action scenes are physically and technically demanding—Henry did his own stunts, taught fight choreography, and endured a grueling 10-hour shoot in freezing Texas.
  • “What shocked me about being on the set on how many takes you got to take?” (02:01 – D)
• Crossover of skills: Approach to acting and athletics overlaps in discipline, humility, and striving for authenticity.
  • “You don’t want to oversell a scene, nor do you want to undersell it.” (03:41 – D)

2. Making of Self Custody and Hollywood Synergy

• The film’s reception and future: The movie is a surprise hit, sparking crypto curiosity and conversations. There’s active movement to expand it into a series, with co-creator Gary Goldman (Entourage) involved.
  • “We’re pretty far along in the process of making it a show.” (05:07 – E)
• Organic team chemistry: The group emphasizes friendship and respect, calling back to what made Entourage work.
  • “The reason people loved Entourage so much was because it was truly its core was about friendship.” (40:34 – G)

3. Adrian Grenier: Crypto Advocacy and Sustainable Living

• Financial and lifestyle sovereignty: Adrian gives context on his nonprofit work—teaching kids about health, food, and personal agency. He sees crypto as the next layer in ensuring independence.
  • “You put that all together so a well-rounded kid… can avoid the doctor, and then they have the financial ability to move about in the world…” (06:57 – C)
• Crypto for beginners: He emphasizes the need to redefine money as a system of trust, warning about both US dollar pitfalls and crypto responsibility.
  • “You have to go to the fundamental layer of what is money? …The entire economy is based on trust and belief in currency.” (09:06 – C)
• On personal responsibility: Handling crypto means stepping up to personal accountability; mistakes are part of the learning curve.
  • “Any of us who've been in crypto, you're going to lose your shirt at some point.” (14:08 – C)
  • “In order to have trust, you must become trustworthy. And in order to be trustworthy, you have to gain the skill and the capacity to be responsible.” (16:39 – C)
• Global adoption and skepticism: Crypto adoption in countries with unstable currencies is contextualized, and fears about illicit use debunked.
  • “The only reason why the government's upset that all the crooks want to use bitcoin is because they'd prefer if the crooks used dollars.” (19:47 – C)

4. Hollywood & Life Shifts: Adrian’s Journey

• Career values and choices: Adrian reveals he turned down an Entourage audition at first, always prioritizing creative inspiration over fame or financial gain.
  • “I'm really more driven about, you know, what creatively inspires me and to do things independently allows me to express the things that are inside.” (23:29 – C)
• Landing Entourage: His initial indifference matched the character and ultimately got him the part.
  • “Everybody in Hollywood that was a male actor wanted to be Vincent Chase. …They were thirsty, and they were like, who's this guy who doesn't even want to show up?” (27:13 – C)
• Navigating fame & retreat from Hollywood: Fame was intoxicating and destabilizing; Adrian describes consciously stepping back—leaving L.A., quitting acting, and focusing on family, land, spiritual renewal.
  • “It was a spiritual transformation, an ego death. …I wanted to...work the land, have a family, get married, and give myself to a future potential through my children.” (49:54 – C)

5. Parenthood, Risk, and Generational Wealth

• Children and the industry: Both Adrian and Henry stress not pushing kids into their professions; agency, play, and self-discovery come first.
  • “With my kids, I just play with them a lot. …they will decide on what they want to do in one particular sport.” (33:15 – D)
• Henry on fighting and identity: He sees wrestling (versus MMA) as closer to acting in its demand for individual expression and resilience.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On personal finance and crypto:
  “You trust yourself more than you do the big institutions.” (13:50 – E)
  “In order to have trust, you must become trustworthy.” (16:39 – C)

• On taking risks and marriage:
  “Talk about taking risks.” (17:43 – E, joking about marriage to a Brazilian)

• On acting and technicality:
  “You don't want to oversell a scene, nor do you want to undersell it.” (03:41 – D)
  “We used to get our knuckles hit if we didn’t get the word perfect.” (41:46 – C on Entourage)

• On career evolution and team chemistry:
  “I only want to work with people… that I can call a friend.” (51:06 – C via Gary Goldman)

• On post-fame self-discovery:
  “I quit acting for a period… Who am I? What am I now? I have nothing without the identity of being an actor.” (48:52 – C)
  “In wrestling it's called the Olympic Blues… you drop into this low.” (49:18 – D)

• On creative advice for newcomers:
  “Just shoot. Shoot. Shoot.” (52:42 – C \ E)
  “You have an opportunity now more than ever… shoot your own stuff and work with your own friends.” (52:11 – G)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:18 — Henry Cejudo on stepping into acting and movie set experiences
• 05:07 — Announcement of Self Custody series development
• 06:17 — Adrian on nonprofit, healthy living, and teaching kids sovereignty
• 09:06 — Adrian unpacks the basics of money and why trust is foundational
• 13:13 — Crypto fears, losing your passphrases, self-trust vs. institutions
• 16:39 — Deep dive into responsibility, trust, and the self-sovereign lifestyle
• 18:17 — Crypto in Brazil and countries with unstable fiat currencies
• 19:47 — Addressing concerns about crypto and illicit activities
• 23:20 — Adrian’s creative process, choices, and initial reluctance with Entourage
• 27:13 — How not caring sealed Adrian’s casting as Vincent Chase
• 33:15 — Parenting: Letting kids follow their own paths
• 45:42 — The effect of Entourage lifestyle on Adrian’s real life
• 48:52 — Stepping back from fame, finding identity, and spiritual renewal
• 52:11 — Advice to young creatives: making your own opportunities

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Conclusion

This episode of Kat on the Loose delivers an inspiring blend of Hollywood candor, crypto pragmatism, and personal wisdom. Grenier, Cejudo, and their collaborators share vulnerable stories about reinvention, refusing to coast on past successes, and why friendship and self-authorship trump everything. The insights into crypto’s promise and risk are honest and demystifying. For newcomers navigating fame, creative uncertainty, or financial independence, the central message is clear: trust yourself, lead an examined life, nurture your circle, and never stop making things.

Transcript

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[B]

Henry. Welcome to Cat on the Loose.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Cat on the Loose.

[B]

Yes. Cat on the Loose. Hi, Garrett. Hi again.

[C]

How are you doing?

[B]

I feel so honored to be here with you guys. I'm so excited for this conversation.

[D]

Of course. Thank you for having us.

[B]

Thank you. Let's do this fast and furious because I have a million questions for you. Okay, first, I want to start talking about the movie, because I had Gareth on the show just a little while ago. He was talking about the movie that he has out now, self custody. And we're hitting almost a hundred thousand downloads, like in what, a week, a week and a half. We're getting millions of questions about Bitcoin and everything. So first question to you. I mean, we all know you're like a top athlete. You're the most decorated, one of the. The most decorated fighter ever. How did you end up jumping into acting?

[D]

Well, honestly, it was just being good friends with Garrett. I've always, I think as a fighter, I've always kind of created a character which know it's the king of. The king of cringe. The triple C is when you're a fighter, the way that fighters make money is based on how do you sell fights? You know, are you willing to go out and promote a fight, antagonize your opponent? So I was already acting prior to actually taking a role with self custody. So I've always liked it. I've always had a. You know, I never really pursued it, but I always like the fact of really changing it up, like, being just different. And when I got a little taste then and Garrett asked me to be in it, I'm just like, yeah, sure, I'll try it.

[E]

And what shocked you about being on the set?

[D]

What shocked me about being on the set on how many takes you got to take?

[E]

So what I would tell you is, first off, we filmed in Texas, and the day that we filmed it was like five degrees in Texas. It was an ice storm, so cold. So we're in this warehouse doing his scene, and he was in there for 10 hours fighting.

[B]

Uhhuh.

[E]

And I don't think he realized it was take after take after take. But, you know, his training allowed him to be able to do that. But it was pretty intense, right?

[D]

I mean, because I was sore. Can you believe that?

[B]

I cannot believe that. Because. Let's. I. I don't want to talk too much about a movie, because if you guys haven't watched that, you should watch it. But your scene, it's an action scene. It's very active. So those scenes are usually the most difficult ones. Right. To shoot.

[E]

They, they. They take the longest. But. And here's the other thing. So the. The other actor that was in the scene with him is not a trained fighter. And so everything with him was all about how do we make it look real, how do we do safety, how do we do all these things? And then Henry steps in and he's. He's teaching the stunt guys moves. And it was unbelievable. I mean, it was just so obviously

[B]

also the fight coordinator in the movie,

[D]

I guess, you know, you guys know, you know, I need a new title too, but, yeah, you got to give

[B]

him credit for that.

[E]

He definitely taught them some moves.

[B]

Oh, my God. That's.

[D]

Oh. What I will say about acting is like, there's such art. I think every little thing matters. Not, you know, not just from the production side, the lighting and things like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But, you know, just getting pointers from, you know, from Coupe in the movie, and I just felt like it was just. Just a different level of respect that you start to really have to. Where you don't want to oversell a scene, nor do you want to undersell it.

[B]

So true.

[D]

You know, so it was just those little details that I was able to kind of take. They're just. They're just gems because it just. It teaches you about business as well.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

I would tell you this. He didn't have, you know, a lot of people. You go into a room and it's 200 people. There's cameras everywhere. A lot of people get hesitant. There's fear, anxiety. He just stepped right. I mean, he should be doing action scenes all the time. I mean, he was so good at it. Had the charisma. Nailed it.

[B]

I have. I honestly, honestly, I did not know it was your first movie, so. Because, you know, I'm watching the movie and I look, and I had no idea. So when I went to read about you, when Garrett told me, you know, do you want to do the show with him. And I went. I'm like, really? I. I thought you had a lot of experience.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

As an actor, I was surprised that was your first movie because I don't think that's an easy scene.

[D]

Yeah, no, it was. It was a lot of fun. You know, I think that's the fun part about it is I think. I guess that's my wheelhouse. Like the fight scene, the action scene, and to be able to bring it to life and, you know, continue to keep doing that repetitive scene until we got the perfect scene.

[B]

Yeah, it's just.

[D]

It was. It's. It's very satisfying. Why by the time you get done, you actually see the whole movie come together. It's so cool.

[B]

It's the. It's the most fun part. Right.

[E]

We have a lot more to come. So actually, some of the guys coming down here, we have some big Hollywood showrunners. We have one of the guys that created Entourage coming down here, Gary Goldman, and we are pretty far along in the process of making it a show.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I volunteer if you guys need a day player. If you need the hot Latina sidekick. Yeah, that is so. Because you guys, you are kind of like your own entourage. You have like this good chemistry going on, right?

[E]

Yeah. You know, we have fun. You know, we have fun together working

[B]

with your besties, right?

[D]

It is, man. It is. It is fun. And then. And then, you know, with Gary, I mean, he's. He's. He really. He really stepped up on soft custody. Man, I had no idea how good.

[B]

Come on in. Come on in.

[D]

Come on. You're the next contestant of the Pricers, right?

[E]

Come on down.

[B]

Hi.

[E]

Where do you want to go?

[B]

If you guys are listening to the audio episode, Mr. Adrian Granier just entered the room.

[D]

It's Grenier.

[B]

It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous. Come on in. Thank you for joining us.

[C]

Certainly.

[B]

I have.

[C]

Gary's making a donation to my non profit.

[B]

Oh, yeah, we're happy to make.

[E]

We're blowing up the ranch.

[B]

I mean, it's all about non profit. I want to come. I want to talk to you. We need 10 hours. Because he told me about this experience that you guys did out in the woods. And like, I'm next. I am so next.

[C]

Thank you. Well, we accept. We're teaching kids about healthy soils and healthy lifestyle, food education, the effect of food on their health and the environment, regenerative agriculture, the whole thing.

[B]

And that's so important, right? Like the place we are. I don't want to tell people exactly where we are, but we are like in this beautiful nature reserve. And I was talking to the owners of this place and they were like, oh, we've been here for 15 years. We wanted our kids to be raised here. And I know you talk a little bit about it with your kids and how they're being raised in nature. And I think so many people nowadays forget about. We get so detached from this life.

[C]

The way I see it, it's about really teaching your kids to be sovereign, individual humans that have agency in the world, they can take care of themselves. They know how to cook, so they can feed themselves, they have nutrition independence so that they know where their good calories are coming from and they're not eating the crap so that they're healthy, their brain's working well. And that's, I mean, ultimately why I'm a big crypto guy as well, is that it gives you financial freedom, financial independence. So you put that all together so that like a well rounded kid has the ability to feed themselves in the best way they can be healthy, they can avoid the doctor, and then they have the financial ability to move about in the world so that when they want to build something or create something, all the barriers start to collapse because they're operating at a high level.

[B]

I love that. So he talked about crypto. So many questions. Because when I had Garrett on the

[C]

screen, we are talking about crypto, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

We started off on something.

[B]

We started talking about the movie, Adrian, because I watched the movie. I was super surprised that it was his first movie. I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. Because his scene is very, you know, so, yeah, a star is born and now he's.

[E]

Don't make.

[C]

Don't get. Don't go to his head, man.

[B]

No, serious. But then I was telling Garrett, we have almost already 100,000 downloads, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of questions from people. Because it's such a hot topic. Because a lot of people, a lot of people are like me, we know nothing about it. And then you watch the movie and you see. And I'm not gonna tell you guys the whole movie, you gotta go watch it. But you see that you can lose this money and it's a big deal, right? If you forget your friends, your phrases like in, in the movie with your character. So maybe you can answer differently than Garrett. Answer for somebody out there listening and watch. And they watch the movie, they, like you said, it's a great idea in terms of the future for the kids, but how about the people that really freaking out. What if this happens to me? How do I trust the system? What if I lose my phrases? How do you go about that?

[C]

Well, I think you have to go down to the sort of fundamental layer of what, what is money? What is money in the first place? And if you start to like, uncover the truth about what it is, it's

[E]

about

[C]

trust and faith in the currency. The reason why you take a dollar, an American dollar, and you go to the store and you can buy some gum is because the guy who's selling you the gum trusts that that dollar is going to hold value so that when he takes it, he can go buy something else. So the entire economy is based on our trust and belief in that currency. And the government's job is to ensure the trustworthiness of that dollar by ensuring it. If there's, you know, an issue or they have, you know, you know, they basically back it. They're supposed to back it with actual money. You know, in Fort Knox, they're supposed to be actual.

[B]

Suppose they're supposed.

[D]

I hope there's something in there.

[E]

I don't even think the government can service their own debt right now.

[C]

Right. Well, then you start getting into the funny business because the government then they uncoupled money from any hard assets and the banking system now starts to take your money that you keep in the bank and they invest it somewhere and they're investing and they're loaning it out eight times the amount of money they actually have in the bank. So then suddenly it starts to become a little bit more insecure. So I would say Bitcoin is an answer to a currency that is already losing faith and trust and is giving people more reliability, more honesty, more trust if they actually understand it and take responsibility for how it works.

[B]

Yeah, I, and I totally agree. And I started learning when I talked to Garrett after I watched the movie because I know, I know nothing about it, but a lot of people are super afraid of jumping in.

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[B]

so one of the questions that we get over and over and over again is like, okay, I like these guys. The movie's interesting, but the movie made me scared because I don't want to be the dudes that forgets the phrases. What is the baby step that you guys would write if somebody out there is listening? Like, okay, I want to try. Adrian, this sounds good.

[C]

Well, and I would say with respect to Garrett's character, he actually is on a learning trajectory. He is not responsible. He is not able to take care of his own wealth. He's actually in a bad spot and he. So he has to learn how to be sovereign.

[E]

You trust yourself more than you do the big institutions.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

If you trust yourself with your own money more than you would an institution that's only going to guarantee it up to 250k.

[B]

Yeah, you mentioned that. But it has happened like in the movie with a lot of people in real life. Right. That they misplace this pen drives, they forget the phrase it has happened.

[C]

Any of us who've been in crypto, you're going to lose your shirt at some point.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Oh yeah. Like we've all made stupid mistakes.

[B]

Have you look at his face, Henry.

[E]

I didn't even ask you, are you the fifth crypto?

[D]

I'm pleading the fifth.

[B]

Henry.

[E]

We were at the bitcoin conference and we went in some dollar machine there and I think you Got.

[C]

You went in, you won.

[E]

He got a bunch of crypto.

[D]

So you did.

[B]

You got.

[E]

He was the champion of the day. He got the most.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, obviously he's got to turn into something, but I.

[C]

Well, bitcoin, crypto or just random, what do they give?

[D]

It was their coin.

[B]

It was what?

[E]

There's a whole bunch of coins out there.

[D]

But if it turns into 200 million,

[C]

well, then we're friends. For those out there that don't quite understand, crypto or bitcoin is like, imagine you have miles for your airline.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You understand that, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You're earning credits or tokens that hold value, but it's not money. It's like United or a different airline. Tokens. It's not dissimilar in many ways because they have bitcoin, which is a particular algorithm that protects it and makes it scarce and requires that you mine it in order to give it its value. And then you have shitcoins, which are just any random. They call them shitcoins. I mean, they do. They're. They're meme coins.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

They're any random. Like, you know, cryptocurrency, that is like Camel cash or something. You know, it's like.

[B]

But listen, I said Miles, but, Miles, you forget your password, your account. La la la la la. The fear, I think. And of course, the movie. I know it's a movie, but it aggravates that fear for people that don't know anything about it because you only have so many choice. Like you said, you trust yourself, but at one point, you have to trust someone else. Like if you pass away, like you told me, you don't trust anyone with your.

[E]

Well, yeah. So here's the thing. A lot of people don't trust the banking institutions.

[B]

True either. So what would you guys suggest? Like, who do you trust? How do you know for sure that you're not going to lose your phrases? Like, it happened to. Not just the movie, it has happened to some people.

[C]

I would say in order to have trust, you must become trustworthy. And in order to be trustworthy, you have to gain the skill and the capacity to be responsible. So it really is. It's asking you to be more sovereign and more responsible over your life. Frankly, there's so many people out in the world who I don't trust, and they couldn't take responsibility and they're. You know, a lot of people complain. We're all just consumers. Like, we're working the day job, we're in the hamster wheel. And then we're just buying things, and we just sit down and watch the tube. We're passive consumers as opposed to being actively in charge of your life. So I think it's a. It's an invitation to. To be alive. To, like, live and be alive.

[B]

I like that. Outtake. I really do. Because I know a lot of people are like me. They want to learn. Like, you know, funny enough, you probably know that. I don't know if you know that. Because of his marriage to Brazilian. I was born in Brazil. It's a huge.

[E]

I know.

[C]

Talk about taking risks.

[D]

Oh, I know.

[E]

Taking a risk.

[B]

What are you talking about?

[C]

Who's really in charge in that relationship? We know who's in charge.

[E]

Yes, ma'.

[B]

Am. We know who's in charge. Right. Happy wife, happy life. Right. But, you know, this is a huge market in Brazil. I think I told you when you came to my show, I had a client in Brazil, and the dude was like, I want to pay you in bitcoins. I was like, no, I'm not there yet. But in Brazil, almost every business person. I don't know if you know that almost every transaction you're going to do in Brazil, that's how they want to pay you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And so, funny enough, a lot of places. So I think we are behind in the United States than a lot of other countries.

[C]

We're complacent. Yeah. You have countries that understand it because their currency is so debased. It's. It has very little value.

[E]

I know some pretty wealthy guys.

[D]

Salvador. El Salvador. You guys heard of El Salvador? Like, they're. The country is booming, and I think they. I think their currency is all crypto, Right?

[C]

Yeah. They've been converting into the cryptocurrency.

[E]

I. I know some guys that are. Massive amount of wealth that have 80

[B]

of it, and really crypto. Do you guys think that it's also. I'm not saying everybody. Nothing in big part, because in terms of, like, you know, evading taxes, money laundering, you know, moving, you got to

[E]

pay taxes on the gains. But a lot of people try to get around.

[B]

Right. But I'm sure in Brazil. No, but nobody pays taxes. And it's easier to move money, like, from country to country, border to border. So it probably does attract a lot of this illicit activity.

[C]

Why'd you look at Garrett when you said illicit?

[B]

Yeah, I'm looking at all of you. I don't know.

[E]

I'm looking at all of you in the movie. They're the bad guys.

[B]

I asked a similar question, but. But that's what? That's another question a lot of people send us. Oh, you know, bitcoin is going to attract all the crooks. Everybody's money launderer. So I'm asking you guys, we just came back from the whoever you want,

[E]

the bitcoin conference, and we've met with a lot of pretty sophisticated good business guys.

[C]

So I mean, I would say the only reason why the government's upset that all the crooks want to use bitcoin is because they'd prefer if the crooks used dollars.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because, you know, that's true.

[B]

That is true.

[C]

I mean, to date, like, you know, how many crimes have been committed using dollars.

[B]

Oh my God. Every day.

[D]

Right.

[C]

So, yeah, I think that's just a big excuse to make you afraid of it. You know, I always say, you know, the hand of the tool is determined by the user. So a hammer, you can build something with it or you could break something. You know, bitcoin or cryptocurrencies or dollars for that matter. They're a tool.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you know, you could do good with it or you could do ill. And that's just, that's just the reality.

[B]

I love the way you, you put it. Yeah, very well put. Now when you guys are making the movie, and I also told Garrett that I was watching the movie. I love it. It's very suspenseful, lots of action, very quick. I wanted more. I'm like, I wanted. When I saw your character, like another

[C]

episode or maybe I want to see show.

[E]

Right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, did you guys have that vibe when you were filming? Like, I. This is so cool.

[D]

That's why I think that. I think that's where the movie kind of leaves it off. It's like a little bit of what you said. Cuz even when I saw. I didn't see the whole movie until we actually premiered it with, you know, I was able to watch it with Adrian and, and Garrett.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So when you do see the movie, you're like, like, I want to know a little bit more about where this could go.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

And then going to the crypto fan, you know, the whole crypto conference. A week ago. It's about a week ago.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

There it was just like it's eye opening how there's a. Such a. It's such a big market. So I mean, there's thousands of people at this damn event. And just imagine worldwide people that couldn't actually make it.

[E]

But we are pretty far along in the way of a show that we are doing that would be. And so around the crypto culture, that

[D]

would be entourage 2.0.

[C]

No, I'm booked. I'm booked on this project, I gotta say, you know, a testament to Garrett. You know, we've been working together for a while, and, you know, we've taken some time to get to know and to trust, but he's so talented that, you know. You know, like you said, like, we don't know what this is gonna be. Turned out amazing, which, you know, it's like, okay, so now I feel like we could actually build something like, that would be a household show that people love and want to watch. I do, too. So, you know, that's why I'm sort of putting all my energy towards making this show. And this is going to be sort of in my mind, my next big thing.

[B]

I love that. I think that would be really cool, because it's a hot topic. It's a hot subject. Obviously, you guys have, you know, work chemistry. Right? You know each other for so long. I think that's a fantastic idea. And when I. Like I said, when I was watching the movie, I'm like, I want to know more, like, what happened between. Between you. What happened in the past. What's going to happen? Is he going to recover from this chaos?

[E]

What you watch would be one plot line of many plot lines that all kind of come together for this crypto culture.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So I have to ask you, because obviously, your life changed a lot. You moved to Texas after finding massive success with Entourage and Hollywood. Your life changed a lot. So nowadays, how does that affect you in terms of which products, projects you decide you are? You. Did it make you a lot pickier? How do you. Did that change in your mind?

[C]

I mean, frankly, I've always been picky. In fact, many people don't know I turned down the role of Entourage.

[D]

I.

[C]

It's not that I turned on the role. I declined to audition because I was working on a documentary at the time. I was like, thanks, guys, but I'm busy. I got it. You know, and they were like, this is gonna be, like, the biggest show. Like, what? Why aren't. And I was just busy because, you know, I'm really more driven about, you know, what creatively inspires me and to do things independently allows me to express the things that are inside. So I don't do anything I don't want to do.

[B]

I love that. Yeah, I love that. Typically, you're driven not by the dollar signs. You're driven by the creative process and the story.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was. I mean, I have a lot of stories in terms like the.

[B]

Please share.

[D]

Well, so, okay, so let me ask you, so how did that. So how did you end up casting. How did you end up getting the role then if you were kind of like, eh.

[C]

So I say, so I was in Mexico at the time, and I was sneaking into Cuba. I was sneaking into Cuba because I was going to make a documentary about skinnish.

[E]

But Cuban hip hop?

[C]

No. So I was making a documentary about Cuban hip hop. And I was like, I had to get into Cuba to, like, film or whatever. I had a thousand dollars to my name. And I was like, okay, that's probably enough money for me to go film. And then when I get home, I gotta get a job. And my manager was like, trying to reach me. And this is a long time ago, before cell phones and all that stuff. So every couple days I'd go to the Internet cafe and I'd buy a little card and I'd get on the Internet and check my email. And I had all these missed emails from my agent, from my manager at the time, and he's telling me about this show and I was like, yeah, yeah, no thanks. And then a couple days later, I go back and he'd be like, what do you mean, no, thanks? Like, so it was like a long process. And then eventually he's like, call me. So then I had to go get one of those cards with all the numbers, go to the payphone. I called him and I was like, yeah, you know, I don't really do tv. He's like, it's not tv, it's hbo. And I was like. I was like, I don't have cable. I don't. So I was pretty indie. Indie rock, Indie filmmaking, living in Brooklyn. So I was like, yeah. I was like, I don't. It's like I read the script. It feels a little superficial. I was like, I don't know if I like their values. I love that.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[C]

And so then my manager said. And I'd said no to so many things for so long. He was like, listen, if you don't come audition for this, you can find another manager. And I thought about it. I was like, okay. At a certain point, if I keep turning my back on Hollywood, Hollywood will turn its back on me.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So I had. I had the wherewithal in the moment to. To have that.

[D]

Like, okay, yeah, maybe I should go.

[C]

It might be. It might be a gimme for them. Yeah, also, because, you know, because. Well, yeah, so I. I ended up saying yes and no.

[D]

But how did the process work, though? Like. Like, so when you audition, how many people were actually, like, how did they narrow it down? Was it right away that you got chosen?

[C]

Okay, so it also worked in my favorite. That's why you can never second guess your instincts, because who knows what they're looking for? You try and be what they want you to be, and then they're looking for the opposite.

[B]

But also, maybe, like you said, because you are so chill about it. It's just your personality. Because I always believe people smell desperation in any industry, but obviously in Hollywood, I think sometimes people show up so nervous, so desperate, but if you show up, like, really chill, or if you

[C]

don't show up or if you don't. Because everybody in Hollywood that was a male actor wanted to be Vincent Chase. So they were thirsty, and they were like, who's this guy who doesn't even want to show up? And so the character, like a celebrity, doesn't audition. They get offers.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So they're like, that guy. Like, there's something about his quality. So then when I came in, it was just literally I. You know, the tail end. They had seen everybody. They were desperate. They didn't know who they were gonna have. I waltzed in, you know, I did my little thing, and they were like, he's the guy.

[B]

That's it. Destiny. Destiny.

[E]

Right now with self custody in addition, like, seven.

[B]

Oh, my God, Please.

[E]

I actually wrote the words in the script to make sure that.

[B]

For you, Garrett. Okay.

[E]

To make sure that I knew that they would be coming directly out of Adrian's mouth, and he couldn't say no.

[C]

Yeah. When I read the script, I said, garrett, how do you know the way? I think what I like. And, like, this is my character.

[B]

You guys been friends for a long time, right?

[E]

Yeah, we've been. We've been working on other projects and doing all sorts of stuff. So.

[B]

Yeah, I think that helps a lot. Right. When you. You're working on something together.

[E]

Yeah. And I. I knew that the dialogue, the monologue would relate pretty heavily to him because, you know, to get Adrian to do a short and do all that. But it was more of a proof of concept that.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Now, like I said, we've tested the market. We know that the big. The bitcoin market has a huge audience out there, you know, 200.

[B]

We know fabulous fight scenes.

[E]

We know Henry is ready. There's been a lot. There's been a lot of fighters, actually, that have converted over to action stars. And I Think Henry's the next one.

[B]

There you go. There you go. That's so cool.

[C]

Now be water.

[B]

If they. If they wanted to do, like, bring back Entourage, would you be game?

[C]

Only if they make a cameo in. In self custody.

[B]

Well, I'm sure they would do whatever you. You would want, because Garrett had this great idea. Remember? He said, like, that would be the perfect comeback. Like, they would have to go to your ranch, beg you, and convince you to.

[E]

Adrian's got a. He's got a. A beard down here. He's out there ranching, and the guys come back and they try to resurrect him. They. You know, the guys are all struggling now in Hollywood, and they need. They need their star back.

[B]

Would you consider it redoing Entourage?

[C]

I consider everything.

[B]

I like that you're open minded to what you say.

[C]

What.

[B]

What? Just say self custody.

[E]

Self custody?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, he's like, no, only self custody.

[B]

Well, self custody first.

[C]

You know, we're pretty far along this process. You know, I think, you know, if I'm a. If I'm a betting man, we'll be making this for the foreseeable future, and I'll be busy, so that's.

[B]

Busy is great. Now I have a question for you. Don't have kids. You have two beautiful babies. You have two beautiful.

[C]

Who doesn't have.

[E]

I have three kids.

[B]

You have three kids?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[E]

Yeah. 12, 10, and 8.

[D]

Yeah. I'm like, wait, Garrett, are you denying your kids, Garrett?

[E]

Yeah, two kids.

[G]

Three kids.

[B]

I thought you didn't have. He has two little ones.

[C]

Yeah, two little ones. We have the babies, and he has.

[B]

Okay, so all three of you can answer. But if your kids came to you in a few years and said, in your case, they say, I want to be a fighter because I want to be like my dad. In your case, they say, dad, I love it here. I don't want to go to Hollywood.

[C]

Oh, my God. No.

[B]

So you're like, you're not gonna. You're not gonna be different.

[C]

That's how you're 18.

[E]

His. His son has never seen a screen.

[B]

Oh, so they're like, super.

[E]

I don't know. Yeah, they're.

[C]

But. But he's got the gifts. I. He. You know. Oh, you know, he looks at you, he smiles. You know, he knows he's got Adrian.

[E]

He's got Adrian's eyes.

[B]

So you cannot let Garrett get near him before he turns 18, because Gary might put the camera on it.

[E]

I think we already in. In self custody. We Already have some kids that we need to have in it's perfect age.

[C]

And yeah, it's difficult because he is. I mean, I love my children so much. They're so photogenic and, you know, I want to put them in, but I just don't think it's right for the way we're raising the kids to put that kind of pressure. Because, you know, I'll be honest with you, there was even one moment where I was shooting a little something and we put him, not for any reason, but just for the like little moment. And the director, me is like, no, no, do it again. You got. And like, I start to take away his natural moment of just being himself. And now I'm trying to get him to perform. And then I just saw that it was becoming. He was becoming uncomfortable and he didn't want to do it. And then I was getting frustrated that he wasn't doing it and like. And I was like, that's because it's all fun and games until you have to meet the day, you have to get the day done.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And there's frustration and there's adult energy. I just don't think it is.

[B]

I have just. I was a child actor because my dad was a TV producer. I started working on TV commerce when I was four. And it, it's hard for kids, like you said, sometimes if you're on set 16 hours, 18 hours, the adults, like you said, they're screaming at you and telling and telling you, telling. They don't understand the pressure on a little kid. It's tough for kids, but they might come. And your kids, are they asking you to, to work in Hollywood already? No, I don't get older.

[E]

No. Yeah, I don't think they want.

[B]

They're not interested.

[E]

My eldest is a really good singer, so I think she has interest in singing.

[B]

Okay, but they might come to you and say they want to give it a try. Right? Because maybe it's in their blood.

[C]

I mean, I think they can try it for, you know, after school program or something or put on a little play, but not professionally drama class.

[B]

How about you? If your kids look at, they're gonna find out, they're gonna know what you do. And they say, I want to be a fighter.

[D]

I'm gonna give them a book. No, I'm just joking. I think my biggest thing is I want my kids to go after something if they decide to fight one day. Like, I don't. I believe like the way that me and my brother started competing in wrestling, you know, we're Raised by a single mother, and we just kind of found the sport, but it was our given to actually do it. But we did play a lot. So with my kids, I just play with them a lot. Like, I'm a very active dad. That when I'm with them, like, we're both getting workouts, like, but they don't know that I'm invested in their. In their physical talents because the more that they run, they jump, you're able to break them down. Then they will decide on what they want to do in one particular sport. I would love for them to, like, wrestle because there's no punches and knees involved. And it's such a.

[C]

It's like.

[D]

It's like acting when you're just. It's just you. You gotta perform. Like, I want them to also feel that pressure a little bit, but because,

[B]

listen, if any type of fight. That's a really tough business part, right? Omg, That's a tough one.

[E]

You think about what he does going in the ring at the ufc, you know, some other guys trying to kill you.

[B]

Listen, you know, being Brazilian, I'm a massive ufc. Massive, massive, massive, massive. I have friends I want. I've been to fights. And I don't know how they do it because. Exactly. I'm like, I know what it is. So admire. It's just.

[D]

It's just trauma. Yeah.

[C]

Same with acting.

[E]

Got a channel from somewhere.

[B]

But it must feel good when you're punching somebody. Like, sometimes I'm like, I want to be.

[E]

Does it feel good when you're punching somebody?

[B]

Sure.

[D]

Like, absolute knockout. But then you're like, I gotta be.

[B]

You know, are you thinking about somebody like that you're really pissed at or somebody that did something to you?

[D]

No, I've been. Because I've been competing for so long, it's like I knew that it was time to retire where I just wasn't even excited anymore.

[C]

At all.

[E]

Like, you know, does it become all technical, like.

[D]

No, Tactical more than anything. Yeah, it's tactical.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Because you got to know when to kind of go in and blitz somebody or take a back seat. Filled the time and then. And then going for the kill.

[E]

But in between rounds, are you just thinking tactical? Are you thinking, I want to go

[D]

out and curl in between rounds? I'm like, what the am I doing?

[E]

What am I doing out here? I gotta go find them.

[B]

Maybe next. Next chapter, right? Actor. A star is born.

[D]

Maybe when self custody takes off, you'll just see me more on the house.

[C]

Well, you know, you. You know what I do between rounds.

[B]

What?

[C]

I go to my trailer and I get some craft services.

[B]

That sounds more chill. That sounds like more fun.

[D]

We practically do the same thing.

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[E]

To point out that Gary Goldman's here, who's one of the executives.

[B]

Come here. Come here. Yeah, come here. I'm so sorry. I'm so into the interview. I'm trying to focus. You know, I do this script free, paper free. As you notice, like, it's just off the top of my head, so I didn't even see. Come here, please. Welcome to Cat on the Loose. You guys, Please meet you. Lovely meeting you. Come here. Squeeze in, squeeze in. Because this is like squeeze organic. It's the topper. It's. Everybody said, like, my show is one freaking 100 organic. We don't add it, we don't script. We just winging it. Congratulations. I mean, you guys are such an awesome. Like you are your own little entourage.

[C]

Oh, no, you don't.

[B]

You do. You want a girl in there?

[C]

A girl?

[E]

Oh, in the self custody, we're going to have lots of female Brazilian, you

[B]

know, a Brazilian girl in there. I mean, I'm tired of this entourage

[E]

trying to take down.

[G]

It's a global experience.

[B]

There you go. I agree. There you go. See?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I promise I will audition for you as many times as you want because I think you guys are so cool. I think you might have something like your friendship out of the project. Makes what you do flow so well.

[G]

I think Adrian can attest to this, that the reason people loved Entourage so much was because it was truly its core was about friendship. And I think when we as a team make our best stuff while communicating and being friends and respecting each other's families and boundaries and also, like, really being able to dig in.

[B]

Yeah, I love that. I mean, I. I was probably one of the top Entourage fans. I was obsessed with the show. It made me laugh. To this day, I swear to God, if I'm sad, you know, like having a bad day, I go and I watch a chunk of it. To this day, it just makes me laugh. I love watching, like, the places that we used to free. We used to go to those places, you know, like the old la. Yeah, the old la. I don't know what they did to it, but it was the places we were hanging out. And I'm like, it just, just. I love that vibe and the connection you had with the guys. The. The dialogue is like so cool.

[G]

The fan base was great, but Doug Allen's dialogue was just unmatched, I don't think.

[B]

And I tell everybody that I have many friends in the industry that I love, but I don't think to this day they've made another show like that.

[G]

Everyone thinks that that dialogue was. That these guys were just making it up. It was on the page.

[B]

It was on the page.

[C]

Yeah. We used to get our. Our knuckles hit if we didn't get the word perfect.

[B]

Really? Really?

[D]

I was like, are you serious?

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[E]

You're not by me.

[B]

Not by you?

[G]

No. We didn't get it word perfect yet.

[D]

Not yet.

[G]

Yet we will.

[B]

Really?

[G]

Yeah.

[C]

At least one or two times word perfect and make it feel like it's natural.

[E]

That is the difference between TV writers, I think, and. And feature writers. Because features, there's a little bit more free form, I think, going on.

[G]

You might have a little bit more time. It depends what the feature is. I don't know who are the directors.

[C]

Do you think it changed?

[B]

Maybe now people have a little more leeway.

[C]

It depends on the writer.

[G]

It depends on the showrunner of a TV show.

[C]

Some writers are like, these are my words.

[G]

You must.

[C]

They are exalted.

[E]

Well, and here's the other thing.

[C]

Sometimes people aren't as precious.

[E]

And sometimes something that said in episode one could impact something down the line too. And they're, you know, so there's a

[G]

whole strategic side that the actors might not know about. Exactly. That there's storyline coming out.

[B]

You know why you want that specific thing? Right.

[C]

That's being generous. But there's also just sort of like a neurotic, like, I hear it in this way, and it's got a rhythm to it, you know? And, you know, I mean, it's like Shakespeare. You got to get it word perfect.

[E]

Don't you. Don't you find sometimes when you're acting out a scene that if you can change the words a little bit to fit your. Your person, it makes it easier. Like when you do a lead into a scene and now you're. You're kind of.

[C]

Honestly, the thing that frustrates me is when you don't have A ample rehearsal period where you're like, okay, you want it word perfect. There's a rhythm that you want. Let's work on it so that I can get that rhythm versus, oh, we're running and gunning. And you want to get it word perfect. And it's, you know.

[E]

And rhythm's the right word.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

There's like a.

[C]

Well, like, I think about, like, David Mamet. Like, if, like, his. His words are so beautiful and they work in this choreography almost. But I imagine they rehearse, like, on a mammoth. I think a play. Like, a play you wouldn't.

[G]

Yeah.

[D]

I also, like, that's also the school that you come from. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, other. Other people who have never acted before, like myself is, oh, yeah, just go. And this is your little part. I think for you, the fact that you've came from that, how you kind of developed the art, has been through what you're. What you're saying.

[G]

Drilling Judd Apatow, I've heard. I've not worked with him, but will run comedy scenes. Just keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. And again and again. And just keep the rhythm going. Then improv, and just really. He comes in and out of set. Like, that's kind of where it's not word perfect. It's like, this is Curb youb Enthusiasm. It's just. This is. In general. I'm gonna come through that door, and we're gonna meet. We're gonna talk about going to our agent.

[B]

How are you gonna do.

[E]

Comedy's a whole other animal. I've. I have. I've done 15 movies now, and I have not done a comedy. And it's one of those things that I. Because you're right. I think you have to try it 20 different ways.

[A]

You must let.

[G]

That's. You must let the cast breathe.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I think comedy is the toughest, Right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Unless you're funny.

[E]

It's the one as a director, somebody

[B]

who is organically funny.

[E]

Yeah. Look, you get Will Ferrell or something, you kind of let them just roll.

[B]

No. So I just thought about a question for you, Adrian. When you were doing. Sorry. When you were doing Entourage, the you you mentioned, like, you were super chill. You're doing this thing Cuba. Then all of a sudden, you jump into this massive show, massive audience. And it was a lot about the lifestyle. Right. This guy, he's an actor. All the attention, the women, the cars, la, la. Did that translate a little bit into your own life? Like real life? What was going on with you? At the time, because, of course, you must have. You were getting massive attention that way. Did you. Did that mix it up in your head at the time?

[C]

My celebrity rose as the show's popularity grew, and, you know, inevitably it rubs off because it actually serves the character to have the kinds of experiences that I was having in real life. I was able to bring those experiences, too. And in fact, you know, Doug and the writers would mine our experiences from the night before or whatever to put in the script. You know, we would tell. We would sit. Sit down at, you know, Video Village and wax on the night before or the party that we went to, or the experience. And, you know, inevitably, the next week, it's in the script, and you're like, okay, here we go. We're gonna, like, recreate. You know, it's like a reenactment almost. In many ways, that was part of the freshness and also, I mean, the dirty little secret that everybody knows is it's a fun lifestyle. So, of course, we.

[B]

Very fun lifestyle.

[C]

Of course, we indulged it from time to time on a professional level, but, you know, we did.

[B]

So somebody out there listening that maybe a new actor, somebody tried to jump in in the business, and you guys can jump in and help the answer as well. What would you. How do you not let it go? Because some people let it go up to their head, to the point of no return, right? They go nuts. They start doing, like, tons of drugs. They go crazy. How do you manage that?

[C]

What we were talking about before, when I was resistant to Hollywood, I was doing a documentary. It was obscure. And then one of the reasons I agreed to it was partly because I only had $1,000 to my name, Partly because my manager threatened to, like, True story. Partly because my manager was threatening.

[D]

So this is early 2000s.

[C]

Yeah, 2001, maybe. Yeah. And then the other reason was I felt like I was old enough to be able to endure the Hollywood experience. There's something in, like, intuitive in my. In me that I was like, if I did. If I became famous or. Because I had a lot of opportunities at a younger age, too. I was working from, like, 20. I don't think I would have been able to navigate the lifestyle or the celebrity the way I was able to at an older age. And even then, at an older age, I still found myself in some of the pitfalls. And I had to ultimately, later in life, you know, come. Come back from that and unwind from that experience. It's a very corruptive and destructive experience. I mean, it's Unnatural to be known and to be, you know, given approval by random people you don't know. And it's just a weird experience and everybody who's famous has to deal with it on some level.

[B]

Yeah. Was there a turning point? Something that happened that you decided, I want to move. Moved to Texas. I want to get out of here. I don't want to live here anymore.

[C]

Yeah. I was like in my mid. Mid life and I was without a partner and no kids and still doing the same old shit. It's like, so we got to do something here.

[D]

You moved to Texas solo then when you moved to Texas?

[C]

I did, yeah. Wow. I actually left the business entirely. I remember quitting acting. Well, I did quit, it wasn't in quotes, but I could quit acting for a period. I called my agents and I quit and I started bawling because it was like, well, who am I? What am I now? I don't have nothing without like the identity of being an actor. Yeah. And I quit it all and clawed my way back to self.

[D]

Yeah. In wrestling it's called the Olympic Blues. It's like when you win a. An Olympic title, they said like, you've reached such a. This crazy high.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And then boom, you drop into this low, like what?

[E]

And you did, you were the, you were the youngest Olympic champion right at the time.

[D]

Yeah. But. But because I can kind of somewhat relate to Adrian, especially him saying goodbye to his, his agent. It's almost like that's been part of your identity is like how did, how did you start fighting yourself?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Or because I think sometimes we forget that that's part of who the hell we are. You have an ability and a gift and you've used that.

[C]

Well, you have to. I mean, it's an ego. For me it was a spiritual transformation, an ego death. I had to like think about who I wanted to be, what I wanted to be. And I realized I wanted to, you know, work, work the land, have a family, get married and give myself to a future potential through my children. So instead of being like nihilistic and. Yeah. I think in many ways the indulgence comes from annihilism and like your fear of your mortality. But if you want to live infinitely, you pour yourself and your kids and they continue the story. The legacy, unity.

[B]

And I think you found a good balance. Right. Because now you have this wonderful life there. The peace, the way you're raising your kids. And when you find a great project like self, cuz you're like, you know what? This is worth it. It I'm gonna go and do it. And I think that's what we all want, right? To find to be happy in our personal lives. Right. And do something that you shouldn't have to give that up completely. No, right. Because for an artist, like, I, I under. I can't imagine you like crying. Because I think we all agree for not doing something we love. You feel like there's a piece missing.

[C]

Yeah. Well, when, you know, when Gary came, when we started talking about this, he's like, I only want to work with people, you know, that I want to work with, you know, that I can call a friend. Yeah, I think that's totally reasonable. I mean, so many people bend over backwards and they sacrifice their experience to work with some asshole who doesn't.

[E]

We all have horror stories.

[B]

Sometimes if you have a thousand dollars in the bank we have to put up,

[G]

you got to work with a lot of not friends to get to know.

[E]

I feel like every project you do, you kind of bring the people that you relate to and some people, the good people, and you kind of keep growing and growing until I agree. Now you come to self custody and here we are rolling.

[B]

I think the good people find each other. Right. Somehow. Yeah, I feel like that in my work. I started this show, like, so organically, and I meet one amazing person and then they introduce me to another amazing person and another and another. It's so everything grows organically. And I love that feeling, you know, that people, we gravitate towards each other because we know, like, there were nice people.

[G]

I think when you asked earlier, is about for your younger team out there trying to come in. They have an opportunity now more than ever, certainly when we did coming up, to shoot their own stuff and work with their own friends and try and be successful. Anybody can shoot a movie right now. That camera right there on the iPhone. And put together your young ensemble now more than ever.

[B]

But be proactive. Right.

[E]

If I was 21, 22, out of film school, yeah. I would 100% get into doing a few verticals right out the gate because you could do them so cheap and you can get cool plots and you get the whole experience.

[C]

Just shoot.

[E]

Yeah, just shoot. Shoot.

[B]

I think a lot of people sit at home waiting for opportunities, right? Yeah, they just like audition and they hope for the best. They audition and they hope for the best.

[G]

My kids are a little older and they're in college right now, and I get calls from their friends asking for some advice. And at that point, and they're like, they want to be a Writer. They want to be an actor. I'm like, just, you. You. You're saying you want to just do it?

[B]

Yes.

[G]

Right?

[B]

Yes.

[G]

You're in college right now. Is there a film school? Is there a way that you can do some short films with your friends? Like, every single experience, even after the. The venerable years that we've put in right now, it's after every experience, you still learn more. Like, every single show that I do, even after one day of work, I'm still like, wow, I did not know that. I'm still learning. Yes, you incorporate.

[B]

But that's the beauty. Right? We're eternal students. Right. Of whatever it is that we're doing. Right.

[E]

That's why we're here now. We got. We got a meeting to talk about the show.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Guys, thank you. It was such an honor. Have you. Congratulations. I really love the movie, and I really cannot wait until it becomes a series. Congratulations on your first acting gig. You did so well. Now we have a new career and actually, thank you for coming. Thank you. Adrian.

[C]

Toodaloo.

[B]

Can I need to ask one super quick final question to you, because I know they're gonna kill me if I don't ask. Devora's Prada too. Did you a lot of girl? I'm so sorry. People are disappointed that you're not in it a lot. There's a lot of calls.

[G]

Shall I answer that for you?

[B]

Did you. If they would have called, would you have done it? Did it matter? Do you. Are you gonna watch it? Do you want to comment?

[C]

I think everything works out for a reason, and I look forward to the. The self custody series.

[B]

Okay. And I love that answer.

[C]

And I think you haven't seen the last of Nate, in my opinion.

[B]

I cannot wait to see more of Nate. I cannot wait to see self custody series. Congratulations, guys. You're the best. Thank you so much.

[C]

Thank you. Toodaloo.

[B]

Toodaloo.