Podcast Summary: Kat on the Loose
Episode: Bad Dates Decoded with Love Coach Nicole Moore
Host: Kat Zammuto
Guest: Nicole Moore – Celebrity Love Coach
Release Date: November 19, 2025
Episode Overview
This lively, candid episode dives deep into the messy realities of modern dating. Host Kat Zammuto welcomes back Nicole Moore, a celebrity love coach and relationships expert. Together, they decode common bad date scenarios—everything from first-date expectations and dating red flags to pay-for-me dating culture, aggressive romance tactics, and whether there are “rules” for sex and relationships. Their sharp, unfiltered banter is packed with practical, sometimes confronting, advice for women navigating today’s dating world.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. First-Date Kisses: Expectations & Entitlements
- Scenario: Should a woman feel obliged to kiss a guy at the end of a first date if he paid for the meal?
- Nicole: It’s common to hope for a kiss if there’s chemistry, but “hoping” is different from “expecting” or pressuring. Any tit-for-tat (“I paid for brunch, you owe me a kiss”) is a huge red flag.
- “If somebody's making you feel pressured…leave immediately. That shows he doesn’t have natural generosity…run from that as fast as possible.” (03:33)
- Kat: Just because someone pays doesn’t mean you owe them anything.
- Nicole: Prepping for a date is expensive and time-consuming for women; men complaining about paying don’t see the full picture.
- “Women are spending so much time to be attractive, men have to just show up and pay. Like, the bar is really not that high for them.” (06:24)
2. Premature Demands: When Is It Too Soon to Ask for Gifts and Lavish Treatment?
- Scenario: Women asking for gifts or expensive treatment after just a few dates.
- Nicole: It’s about timing and “emotional leverage.” Demanding too much too soon—with no emotional investment—will backfire.
- “If he doesn't have [an] amount of positive feelings towards you yet and you ask him for things, he's going to be like, no. It's like if a stranger asked you to give them $100.” (08:01)
- Kat: It’s better if gestures come organically from the guy, out of genuine affection.
3. Aggressive Approaches and “Hunting” Men
- Scenario: Women making bold, aggressive moves on men in public spaces, fixated on quickly finding a husband or provider.
- Nicole: Extreme aggressiveness is a turnoff. Men want to feel chosen for who they are, not as a “target” or ATM.
- “She just wants the title of being like somebody’s wife…Men also want to feel special. They want to feel you care about them in particular, not just get stuff from them.” (11:10)
- There’s a distinction between confidence and “predatory energy.”
4. The “Provider” Trend and Dangerous Dependencies
- Scenario: Women on social media seeking a “provider” to fund their lifestyle and do nothing.
- Nicole: Relying fully on a man for finances is risky. Money usually comes with constraints, and can become a method of control.
- “Very few men will just give money without some sort of control…money for women is safety. Keep your own.” (13:33)
- Kat: Always have your own bank account and financial independence.
5. Bad Manners – Dealbreaker or Not?
- Scenario: Attractive, successful men with poor manners on dates (e.g., rude to staff, gross habits).
- Nicole: Manners matter, especially for women in social/professional circles. Specific behaviors tend to be recurring patterns, not isolated quirks.
- “When they see your partner, they…treat your partner as an extension of you. If you’re embarrassed, it’s going to impact you.” (17:43)
- Kat: “I don’t want to be their mother,” teaching basic etiquette to adult men is a turnoff.
6. Public Embarrassment: When Your Date Behaves Badly in Social Settings
- Scenario: Dates who get drunk, make scenes, or act immaturely in front of friends or colleagues.
- Nicole: These behaviors can damage your own reputation.
- “People start thinking, what’s wrong with her?” (21:48)
- Kat: No woman should tolerate public disrespect or embarrassment for the sake of not being single.
7. Sex & Dating Timelines: Rules or No Rules?
- Scenario: How soon is too soon for sex? What if one partner pressures the other?
- Nicole: Never have sex before you’re ready; pressure and disrespect are massive red flags.
- “If in a relationship he’s not respecting your feelings…it’s just about what he wants. He’s always going to be that way.” (25:26)
- There’s no universal timeline—go with what feels right for you, but know that not having boundaries could lead to disappointment or being taken advantage of.
- “I think you should only sleep with him if you’re not going to freak out if he doesn’t call you back…It’s really about you.” (30:08)
8. Don’t Give Up on Love: Hope for All Ages
- Kat: Addresses the trend of young women declaring themselves “forever single” in books and on social.
- Nicole: Stay open and positive—love can surprise you any day, at any age.
- “Thought creates reality. You can’t control the dating world, but why not just choose positivity and hope? It feels better.” (32:02)
- Kat: Asserts her own resilience after divorce, breakups, and dishonest partners: “I’m an eternal believer in love.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “If somebody’s making you feel pressured…leave immediately. Run from that as fast as possible.”
Nicole (03:33) - “Women are spending so much time to be attractive, men have to just show up and pay. Like, the bar is really not that high for them.”
Nicole (06:24) - “You have to make that man feel uniquely special. The guys who have money, they don’t want you to want them for the money.”
Nicole (12:05) - “Very few men will just give money without some sort of control…money for women is safety.”
Nicole (13:33) - “I don’t want to be their mother. I want a grown ass man that behaves like a man.”
Kat (19:09) - “I think you should only sleep with him if you’re not going to freak out if he doesn’t call you back…It’s really about you.”
Nicole (30:08) - “Love is like this thing where one day they’re not there, and then the next day they could be there.”
Nicole (34:19)
Key Timestamps for Major Segments
- 01:14 Introduction of Nicole and episode premise
- 03:28–06:24 First-date expectations, pressure for physical affection
- 08:01–09:28 Premature demands and “emotional leverage” in dating
- 11:10–12:34 Discussion on aggressive dating tactics and provider-seeking
- 13:33–15:50 “Provider” culture and financial independence for women
- 17:43–19:09 Bad manners: dealbreaker or teachable?
- 21:48–23:58 Public embarrassment and partner reputation
- 25:26–26:58 Boundaries around sex; pressure and red flags
- 30:08–31:14 Is there a “right” time to have sex?
- 32:02–33:40 Hope for finding love at any age
Nicole’s Final Advice and Resources
- Stay positive in your mindset; don’t give up on love (34:19–34:22)
- Her coaching & new Secure Woman Club ($7/month) for women wanting security and confidence in love (34:38–35:26)
- Find her at Instagram: @nicolemoorelove
Tone & Takeaways
Kat and Nicole keep things raw, empowering, and unfiltered—emphasizing self-respect, boundaries, and resilience in the chaotic world of modern dating. Practical and real, the episode is packed with honest confrontations about entitlement, gender expectations, and why you should always keep your power.
Whether you’re navigating bad dates, unsure when to set boundaries, or worried about finding real love, you’ll leave this episode laughing, nodding, and ready to raise your standards.