BETTER SEX!! Harder, Longer, More Pleasure - less Taboo!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Kat on the Loose – "BETTER SEX!! Harder, Longer, More Pleasure – less Taboo!"

Host: Kat Zammuto
Guest: Jeff (sex product industry leader, owner of Promescent)
Release Date: April 1, 2026

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Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Kat welcomes Jeff, a leading figure in the sexual wellness products industry, to discuss practical ways for individuals and couples to enhance pleasure, improve intimacy, and break the ongoing taboo surrounding sexual conversations. The discussion covers the importance of communication, how to effectively use sexual wellness products, overcoming shame, and why sexual satisfaction is integral to overall well-being—at every stage of life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking Taboos Around Sex and Pleasure

• Opening Conversation (00:00–01:50):
  • Kat laments that sex and pleasure are still taboo in 2026, despite societal advances.
  • Jeff asserts, “It’s a joke…So many people suffer in silence. So many people think they’re alone, that ‘I’m the only one that faces this issue.’ The main thing we can do is have people go, ‘you’re not alone.’ There are solutions out there.” (01:00)
  • Both agree that frank discussion normalizes these conversations and helps reduce stigma.

2. Sexual Wellness as Essential Health

• Wellness & Relationship Investment (01:52–03:47):
  • Jeff compares the energy people spend attracting partners to neglecting maintaining intimacy, stating, “Shouldn’t we spend as much time keeping the partner that we attract?” (02:35)
  • Kat champions orgasms and frequent sex for mental health: “The more orgasms you have, the healthier you feel…Go masturbate, go have great sex, you’re going to feel a lot better!” (02:50)

3. Masturbation, Toys, and Removing Shame

• Normalizing Solo Sex (04:28–06:28):

  • Both share their advocacy for masturbation, with Kat urging single women to embrace it: “I sleep like an angel…Girls, please, I’m begging you, go do it.” (05:33)
  • Kat honestly reviews Promescent’s arousal gel: “This is the best arousal gel I ever tried. It was absolutely insanely fabulous.” (06:14, 07:30)

• Clearing Misconceptions: Toys Don’t Replace Partners (09:03):

  • Jeff addresses male insecurity: “A vibrator is in addition to, not in place of. Leave your ego at the door. This isn’t about you, it’s about her.” (09:22–10:27)
  • Encourages couples to experiment together and use products to bridge different stimulation needs, highlighting anatomical differences and the importance of clitoral stimulation.

4. Communication is the Ultimate “Sex Product”

• Importance of Openness (22:28–23:55):

  • Jeff: “What’s the most important thing people can do to improve their intimacy?... Communicate.” (22:38)
  • Kat stresses her directness surprises partners, “How can you develop intimacy if you don’t really tell your partner everything?” (23:02)

• Real-Life Suffering in Silence (23:34–24:49):

  • Jeff shares a customer story: A couple waited 24 years to address premature ejaculation, suffering quietly, until a product changed everything (23:56).
  • Kat emphasizes there’s “so much shame” and suggests broaching new ideas lightheartedly, e.g., after a romantic dinner. (25:04)

5. Product Deep Dives: Promescent, Lubes, Supplements

• Delay Sprays for Men (16:15–20:32):

  • Jeff explains the science and development of Promescent’s delay spray (lidocaine in oil form that doesn’t numb the partner): “The only spray that won’t numb you and won’t numb your partner is Promescent…that’s what really put us on the map." (19:23–20:32)
  • Usage tips: Apply 7–10 minutes before intimacy for best effect; can use for oral since taste is neutral. (20:40–21:24)
  • Talks about the importance of not viewing these products as an affront to masculinity: “Guys love to be in control…if a guy shifts from ‘I hope I last long enough’ to ‘I’m going to give her two orgasms before I finish,’ he’s not going to want to go back to having that anxiety.” (27:28)

• Arousal Gels & Vibrators for Women and Couples (06:14–10:27):

  • Kat shares her honest positive review of warming arousal gel.
  • Main takeaway: Different bodies, different needs—try various options and communicate preferences.

• Supplements for Sexual Health (31:43–38:29):

  • Vitaflux: A natural supplement with amino acids, zinc, magnesium to support blood flow and hormone absorption for both men and women. Helps with natural lubrication and firmer erections. (31:46–33:41)
  • “Who doesn’t want lower blood pressure, better health, lower body fat, higher dense muscle?” (38:25)

• Wipes for Portability (29:49–31:03):

  • Promescent wipes offer convenience, slightly less strength than spray, but portable and discreet.

• Lubricants and Pleasure (37:06–37:36):

  • Kat recommends water-based lubes, noting that good lubrication is essential for comfortable, enjoyable sex especially with age.
  • Jeff on silicone lubes: “If I use silicone lube, it takes me two days to scrub it off…get out of here with that.” (37:18)

6. Sex, Aging, and Self-Worth

• Redefining Aging and Sex (38:39–41:40):
  • Both strongly refute the idea that sex should diminish with age.
  • Jeff: “You might not be the raging stallion physically, but…knowing how to please your partner, how to be open…you’re going to have better intimacy.” (39:09)
  • Promotes extended foreplay and mental connection—suggests playful anticipation via texts and day-long build-up. (39:12–41:14)
  • Quotes a podcast guest who uses arousal gel for “eight hours of foreplay.” (40:01)

7. Cultural Issues: Control, Gender Roles, and Empowerment

• On Male Ego and Shame (26:02–28:34):

  • Kat: “The male ego lives in their penis. I really believe that.” (26:02)
  • Both encourage women to suggest toys/products as something fun together, not as a critique.

• Feminine Energy and Control (28:13–29:34):

  • Kat: “We want to be in our feminine energy…taken care of.”
  • Jeff: “The man is the protector…doesn’t mean I can’t have relationship with someone more successful than me…Women think less of a guy if he goes, ‘you take control.'” (28:21)

• Empowerment Through Self-Discovery (46:44):

  • Kat: “Don’t let anybody ever take [your sexual fulfillment] away from you.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Sex is not a dirty word.” – Kat (01:13)
• “Shouldn’t we spend as much time keeping the partner as attracting the partner?” – Jeff (02:36)
• “There’s no such thing as a bad orgasm.” – Jeff (03:47)
• “A vibrator is in addition to, not in place of. Leave your ego at the door.” – Jeff (09:22)
• “Communicate. That’s the most important thing.” – Jeff (22:38)
• “The male ego lives in their penis. I really believe that.” – Kat (26:02)
• “You want to go into every relationship with a blank canvas.” – Jeff (14:25)
• “If people were having more sex, more orgasms, and less medication… the world would be a much better place.” – Kat (43:00)
• “I want to be buried in my Louboutins. And if I’m not in a relationship, my vibrator.” – Kat (45:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Breaking Sexual Taboos and Advocacy: 00:12–01:50
• Wellness, Relationships, and Orgasms: 01:51–04:28
• Masturbation & Arousal Gels: 04:28–07:54
• Toys vs. Partner Security: 09:02–10:41
• Sex Drive & Deal Breakers in Relationships: 12:26–14:25
• Multiple Orgasms & Age: 13:30–15:16
• Delay Spray Science & Use: 16:15–21:06
• Taboo, Shame, Communication: 22:28–26:06
• Communication Tactics & Stories: 23:34–25:35
• Supplements & Women’s Natural Moisture: 31:43–33:41
• Lubricants & Comfort: 37:06–37:36
• Sexual Vitality at Every Age: 38:39–41:40
• Intimacy as Self-Worth & Peace: 43:00–43:55

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Resources & Offers

• Promescent products (arousal gels, sprays, wipes, lubricants, supplements) discussed throughout.
• Discount Code: CAT15 for listeners.
• Products shipped in discreet packaging.
• Kat plans a giveaway box with samples of every product.

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Final Takeaways

• Sexual fulfillment contributes directly to happiness, health, confidence, and relationships.
• Communication is the real “magic bullet”—no product works without it.
• Don’t wait or suffer in silence. Start with small steps, be honest, explore together. Regardless of age, great sex can be part of your life.
• Kat and Jeff encourage listeners to leave shame, stigmas, and ego behind to embrace pleasure—solo or partnered, always with openness and joy.

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For more, visit promescent.com or Kat’s "Kat on the Loose" YouTube channel.

Transcript

[A]

Okay, Cat Kingdom. I brought a heavy weight of the sex industry to talk to us so we can all have better sex and be better in bed. Hi, Jeff. Welcome to Cat on the Loose.

[B]

It's my pleasure being here.

[A]

It's a huge honor having you. I'm so excited to talk to. You have no idea. The first thing I want to say is that it makes me sad that this day and age, talking about sex and talking about pleasure and having more sex and more pleasure is still taboo. How do we stop this?

[B]

By doing exactly what we're doing right now, by normalizing things, having conversations. One of the things that frustrates me is it's 2026, and people go, oh, we're so beyond all the taboos and you know, all of the old wives tales and, you know, this shame. No, we're not.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Get out of here. No, we are not.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's a joke. And so many people suffer in silence.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And so many people think they're alone, that I'm the only one that faces this issue. The main thing that we can do to get out of this is to have people go, you're not alone. There's a lot of people facing the same issues, and there are solutions out there. There are things that you can do to give you better intimacy, to make you better in bed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't be afraid.

[A]

And today, guys, we're going to give you many, many practical examples. This is why he's here. And if you guys are listening to the audio episode, please go to YouTube because we're literally going to illustrate and tell you a bunch of cool things that you created that you sell. And believe me, I tried. That can help us have better sex. Because like you said, people suffer in silence. Couples suffer in silence. Single women suffer in silence because they think, oh, I shouldn't be. How do I pleasure myself? And I am a huge, huge advocate for basically breaking the stigma. Talk about it. You know, sex is not a dirty word.

[B]

Not at all.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I always tell people that there's a big push now on wellness. You always see wellness, whether it's supplements or taking better care of yourself and using amino acids and using peptides and hormone replacement therapy. Why is sexual wellness part of wellness? Think about how much money people spend going to the gym, buying the clothes, getting their hair cut, doing all these things to attract a partner. Shouldn't we spend as much time keeping the partner that we attract, that we go through countless. Who we jump through countless hoops and spend all this money to attract someone if you don't have a satisfactory sex life, you're not going to keep them.

[A]

One million.

[B]

So let's put as much focus on keeping the partner as we do on attracting the partner.

[A]

Oh, my God, 1 million percent. You're so right. And I'll go even further. I think, even before you have the partner people self medicate, like you said. Oh, I need antidepressant and I need this and I need that. And I'm not a doctor, I'm not an expert by any means, but I'm a huge believer that the more sex you have, the more orgasms you have, the healthier you feel. You put all these endorphins, all these feel good hormones in your brain. So I'm like, dude, go. Go masturbate. Go have great sex. You're gonna feel a lot better than you. You keep taking medication.

[B]

You got that right. I brought this up on a number of podcasts, and people think it is so revolutionary. And, oh, my God, how'd you think of that? It's common sense. Think about this. You've probably in your relationship coaching and talking to people. You hear this over and over again. People say, you know, when I'm not in a relationship, I can't find anyone. Then I get into a relationship and everyone comes onto me and I go. It's simple. People go, what do you mean? I go, we're not in a relationship. You're not having good intimacy. You're not pleasing someone, you're not being pleased. You walk around, your shoulders are slumped, you're depressed, you're not in a good mood. Who wants a piece of that?

[A]

Okay, I know.

[B]

Then you get out of relationship and you have great intimacy and you feel good about yourself and your head's up and your chest is out. You're walking around. That's why when you're in a relationship, it's not crazy to think it's because you're giving out that aura that I'm happy and I'm satisfied, I'm satisfying someone else and your whole world is positive. Who has ever had a disappointing orgasm? Answer. No one. Okay, some of them are great. Some of them are really good. But there's no such thing as a bad orgasm. At least in my life, you know, Same. So it's one of those things. And here's what I tell people. Even if you're not in a relationship, masturbation is a very positive thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even sometimes when you're in a relationship, there's nothing wrong with mutual masturbation. There's Nothing wrong with satisfying yourself. What better way to know what turns you on?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And what you know, our fastest growing product right now.

[A]

Which one? The arousal.

[B]

Go solo.

[A]

It's the go solo. So let's talk. Wait, okay, so. Because I want to do this in part. So guys, again, if you're listening, don't forget to go to go to the car on the YouTube show. Carol. Show on YouTube, because you can see everything that we're going to talk about now. Because let's start with the single people out there and we're going to go to the couples. I'm a single woman. I'm not in a relationship right now. I don't like casual sex at this point in my life because I'm a major sapiosexual. I need the mental connection. So I wanna have my missing half. Yeah.

[B]

Maybe how I am. When I was younger, it didn't matter. I was just into the physical aspect.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

After I turned 50, I'm 68, almost 69. I don't want to have intimacy outside of a relationship.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't want to have to sleep with one eye open. You know what I mean? I'm uncomfortable. Like, put on a skin diving suit. You know what I mean?

[A]

Exactly. I want to have sex with my man. That's what turns me on.

[B]

Same here.

[A]

Therefore, when I'm single, such as now, I'm a huge advocate. I still masturbate. I love having my orgasm and I. It relaxes me. I sleep like an angel. So, girls, please, I'm begging you, go do it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

When you gave me this fabulous box, I got this goodie bag from Promise and I'm like, okay, this is right up my alley. Let me give it a try. So this is the first one I want to talk about because I'm like, I'm gonna do the arousal gel.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

With my. My fabulous twice.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I have to say, and I swear, because I'm. I don't know how to lie. And everybody knows that. Everybody that has been on Cat on the Loose, they're like, wow, you're really, really honest. And. And that's the only way I know how to be. I'm very blunt.

[B]

Give me the straight scoop.

[A]

God's honest truth. This is the best arousal gel I ever tried it. And it's because if I didn't like it, I would tell you and I appreciate it. I would say, you know, it was okay, but blah, blah, blah. I really, really would.

[B]

The majority of our products, 75 to 80% of people find there's no products on the market. It's gonna. Because sometimes it's more psychological, sometimes more physical. Now I have to ask you, we have two. We have warming and buzzing.

[A]

This one I tried and I actually used it last night. Again, I love my, my, My Sunday. My Sunday sesh with myself. My, My Sunday feel Good day. And I'm like, let me try it again to make sure. Why? What is it about this? But it was so good and it was so fun. I know I'm. I'm doing a major sales pitch right now, but it's from my heart. Girls, give this a shot.

[B]

Is it the warming or buzzing?

[A]

No, it, it was, it was. I don't know what you mean by buzzing.

[B]

We have two different types of female.

[A]

I used literally this one that's in my hand.

[B]

Let me see the front.

[A]

I'm warming.

[B]

Warming. That's the warming one.

[A]

But, but because I've tried a few in the past and they were either burning too much or they are way too hot. And I still like.

[B]

That's the buzzing. We sent you the warming.

[A]

But this one was absolutely insanely fabulous. So congratulations.

[B]

That's our best selling female arousal gel.

[C]

Oh, it is.

[A]

There you go. But again, obviously, if a couple out there is listening or if, if you guys are in a relationship, please go for it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But the single girls, I highly recommend you girls try it out because it's incredibly great.

[B]

It enhances orgasm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It did give you warming sensation, which increases your libido. It gives you a more intense orgasm. It's a really good thing.

[A]

I'm a witness.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because I wanted to give it a try because I'm like, okay, if it doesn't work as well, I want to be honest and tell you, but it really makes a massive difference.

[B]

That's what we like to hear. We, you know, but even if you said it didn't do that much for me, I'd say you're in the 25% that body chemistry. Whatever. Doesn't work. You might want to try the buzzing, which is just like you said, it's more burning, it's more intense. Some people need that. Okay. It depends on your body.

[A]

I like this one.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I like to feel this, this, this vibe that it's warming. It's heated me up.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It definitely gave me like a stronger orgasm that I normally have.

[B]

That's what it's intentionally intended to do. The interesting part about that product, you'll laugh when I tell you this is it also has the same effect on men. But there's so much stuff out there for men. We go, this is for women.

[A]

You know, a couple out there listening, if they're like, okay, of course you can try it with your partner.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I love it. Right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because of course last night I was thinking, as much as I love my vibrators, I don't think a vibrator is ever going to be a replacement for, for a man.

[B]

It's not meant to be.

[A]

It's not. But a lot of men get intimidated, you know that? A lot.

[B]

You get, you're speaking to the choir, okay?

[A]

You'd be shocked how many guys are like, oh, if my girl masturbates too much, she's going to start comparing me to my vibrator.

[B]

Like, oh, no, no, no. Let me tell you something. A vibrator is. In addition to. Not in place of vibrator is to tide you over until you have a man own show. I should, maybe when I retire I will, you know, but it's interesting because I had to literally make videos and send them out to our guys because when we first started making our vibrators and putting them on there, women were ordering, guys weren't. I started asking questions. Well, it means that I'm not. I go, listen, first of all, there's a large percentage of women, probably 60%, that can't climax during vaginal penetration, okay? Because let's face it, just from an anatomy standpoint, the penis doesn't make a lot of times direct stimulation on the clitoris during regular missionary style. So that's why cock rings are really good, because they stimulate. That's why a woman using a bullet vibrator while she's having sex with her man enhances it. I tell men, leave your ego at the door. This isn't about you, it's about her.

[A]

Yeah, okay, well, I think, look, I think it's about both. Well, yeah, but, but I do believe if you are open minded and out products, toys in the bedroom, if you give everything a try, you're gonna have a much richer sex life.

[B]

It's about both. But let me tell you something, being 68 and being male and being single, I can tell you this right now, it's always about both. But if you're a man and you please your woman, you're getting pleased because trust me, if your partner goes, this guy makes a good living, he's funny, he's this. And he gives me good orgasms. I'm making sure he's taken care of. So if you're a man, focus on Your partner. And I guarantee you, you will get taken care of. But by the same token, you'll get looked at as, oh, my God, you're like Gandhi. You think of everyone else and you're in back of your mind. You're going, but I know I'm getting mine too. You know what I mean?

[D]

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[A]

Queens.comcat I will tell you something. I do agree. Especially after a certain age, we get pick here, right. We know what we want in our partner.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

For me, like, I know for many women out there, if you are, I know I'm very happy single. Of course, having a great partner will be the cherry on my cake. That being said, I want a very rich sex life.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So if I'm dating someone that doesn't have a sex drive or is not that interested in sex, which has happened in the past, for me, it's a deal breaker because I'm super honest. I don't want to be in that kind of relationship because my marriage was like that. My marriage was like almost in non existent sex for 15 years.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

And I.

[B]

You're making up for lost time.

[A]

I'm gonna try once I find the right partner. However, you know, and I'm not a cheater. I don't cheat. I don't do that crap because I think it's too much work for me. I don't do that. But nowadays I'm like, yes, sex is on top of my non negotiable Yes. I want a partner that wants sex, that wants intim. That. That is interested in all of that. So.

[B]

And wants to explore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Reaching boundaries and pushing boundaries. And wants to bring toys into the bedroom. Because there's one of the things. Now, I've always enjoyed being a man. I'll roll with it. You know what I mean? It's been a good run, but the one area that I go, women do have the advantage over is multiple unlimited amount of orgasms per day. I always just tell people as a man, when you're in your teens, when you're in your early 20s, you're like a machine gun. You can have bullets firing 7, 8, 10, 12 times a night.

[A]

Same thing, right? It's new, though. Not the same thing at any age.

[B]

It's not the same thing. But then you get in your 30s and you're more like a semi automatic rifle. Okay. I shoot every hour. And then you get in your 40s, 50s, you're like, okay, I'm a rifle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My age right now. A musket. Remember they used to put the ball in, then I have to put it. You know what I mean? It's like after a good session, I need a night's sleep, a workout, two meals, and I'm ready to go.

[A]

It's fine. Because you're thinking about your partner, it doesn't mean you have to stop. You can still satisfy your partner.

[B]

Oh, no, you still satisfy your partner and you still have good intimacy, but you treasure each episode so much more. And you're very open to whatever it takes to please my partner, whether it be vibrators, gels. You really want to go into every relationship with a blank canvas. You know, sometimes men will say, I got these set of moves and I go, go, then you're a loser. They go, what do you mean? I go, Women are completely different. I have dated women in my life that literally, they're like just mild stimulation around the clitoris, you know, I'm very, very sensitive. No direct stimulation. I'm really, really sensitive. I've dated other women, like take a cinder block, put sandpaper on it, you know what I mean? And I need, of course, different bodies,

[A]

different body styles, desires and different needs.

[B]

That's exactly.

[A]

But I do love that, like, obviously you're the owner of the company, so you're super open minded about all of that. And I think I would hope every guy is open minded in terms of trying out whatever it is that makes your sex life better. That goes both ways because we hear a lot about couples, right? They sometimes. Many times the guy goes, cheat because they're not having enough sex.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Many times they're like, oh, I love my wife, but I want to more, and she's not interested. So I'm saying that for girls as well, you need to spice it up. So bring up this ideas and these products that are out there and what I want to do today, because a lot of them, including myself, although I do the show for five years, this is the sixth year we're doing Cut on the Loose. A lot of these products, I didn't know they existed. So, you know, I'm always learning as well. For example, I. Of course, I want to talk about this one, because I want you to explain to us how it works. This last longer. Spray and wipes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Can you. Does this really work? And how does it work?

[B]

Oh, it really works.

[A]

It really works. This one, unfortunately, I could. Couldn't test because that was gonna say,

[B]

you need a partner for that.

[A]

Okay, but tell me how.

[B]

Let me tell you. Mechanism. So Dr. Ron Gilbert.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was my neighbor. My doctor, my friend. And he was a urologist at Hogue Hospital in Newport Beach. We both lived in Huntington. This was in approximately 2010.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So I went to see him for my yearly physical psa. He goes, you know, I developed this product, and I have a friend from high school and college that's running the company. It's not taking off. Can you help me out? I go, what is it? He goes, I developed a treatment, allow men to last longer. I go, really? And he goes, yeah. So he started telling me about it, and I go, do you need a prescription? He goes, no, it's over the counter. I go, really? He goes, yeah. So he gave me a sample, and I was like, oh, my God.

[A]

Well, what? A sample? What? Spray paint?

[B]

Back then, we only had one product. We had nothing.

[A]

But this is what really piqued my interest, because we're gonna talk about the stuff you take. But a lot of men don't want to take.

[B]

No. And this is the biggest issue.

[A]

Spray, guys. It's called Last Longer Endurance spray.

[B]

Promescent spray. Exactly.

[A]

Spray. So clinically proven.

[B]

And let me tell you why he. We did a clinical trial.

[A]

Can I open one?

[B]

Absolutely. Open it up.

[A]

We have so many. We're gonna do a giveaway for you guys as well.

[B]

You'll laugh when I tell you this. So there's Two types of PE.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

There's clinical PE where a guy never lasts more than 60 seconds. Premature ejaculation. So that means that a guy Has. There's a lot of reasons physically, because a lot of people think that you don't care about your partner. You don't have enough mental strength to last longer.

[A]

Okay, Catherine, proof. How do you open it?

[B]

You just squeeze it.

[A]

Okay, There you go. It's a little cute spray.

[B]

It's a little cute sprayer. That's the 20 spray bottle. Okay, so a lot of men have hypersensitivity to the penile nerves. They have prostatitis, they have low testosterone. So there's reasons. And they never last more than 60 seconds. No matter. Masturbation, intercourse, whatever. Oral sex. Then we'll talk about the bigger market. Now, you won't believe this, but the average man. We're talking about the average healthy male, not someone with PE, lasts 5 minutes and 42 seconds during penetration.

[A]

But let me ask you, this endurance spray, anybody can try it. Any guy, any age.

[B]

Try any age.

[A]

So what makes it work? What's in it?

[B]

Okay, it's lidocaine based. And there had been lidocaine sprays before promescent, but what they do is they sit on the surface of your skin.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They don't penetrate the dermis or stratum corneum. So they sit on the surface and they numb you, they transfer to your partner, they numb her. So literally, you could last 40 minutes, but no one's climaxing. You might as well go take a high yoga class or sprint class.

[A]

The lidocaine makes you stay hard.

[B]

You stay hard. But here's what makes this different. So all the other ones that existed before stud 100 duration, all these other ones? Yeah, they numb you, they numb your partner. So when Ron was treating patients, because he was a urologist and he specialized in sexual medicine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He realized if you had ed, they had Viagra, Cialis, levitra, they had solutions. If you had, you know, prostate issues, they had solutions. You had incontinence, they had solutions. If you had PE, all they had were SSRIs, which are selective serotonin reuptake antibodies, depression drugs. They make you last longer.

[A]

Okay, but a lot of people, again, don't want to go that far.

[B]

Well, they don't want to go there because. Well, not only that, if you take an ssri, you lose your libido, you get dry mouth, nausea. Yeah, that's a lot of you don't want to go through. That's like putting.

[A]

Doesn't have any major side effects.

[B]

No side effects, but this is the difference. So he created a formula that changes the structure of lidocaine from crystal Meaning like a grain of salt where it sits on your skin to an oil aqueous, which penetrates and goes underneath the skin. So the man maintains a higher degree of surface sensitivity. He's not numb and it doesn't transfer to the female. And we patented it. Okay, so it's patented. So the only spray that won't numb you and won't numb your partner is promescent. Everything else, that's what made us the sensation, that's what really put us on the map.

[A]

So, okay, promescent, long lasting, endurance spray. So anybody? So how tell us practically you're having sex when the guy's hard, you spray on it.

[B]

You can spray it on flasks, acid,

[A]

you can smoke also. It's not gonna make you not get an erection.

[B]

No, absolutely not.

[A]

So there's no perfect time. You can just go for it.

[B]

Yeah, but the key is you want to put it on there seven to ten minutes before you start intimacy because that gives it a chance to absorb. You don't wanna wait an hour because.

[A]

Yeah, that's a very important question for me because I know everybody thinks I'm crazy. My favorite thing in the world is to give my partner a blowjob. I'm obsessed. I don't know. It's the thing that turns me on the most in this world.

[B]

How are you single?

[A]

Well, I. Like I said, you know, nowadays.

[B]

Yeah, I'm joking.

[A]

I'm very picky. I don't casual sex. But can we spray and do the blow job or should we do the blow job first without the spray?

[B]

You can do it either way.

[A]

Oh, it doesn't matter. What does it taste like? No taste.

[B]

It has almost like a Listerine taste. Almost like a little bit taste. Not bad.

[A]

So if you spray and you, you do a blow job, it's good.

[B]

It's good. Absolutely.

[A]

That's incredible.

[B]

I will tell you something else and I want your opinion on this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Talking about gu and women in general, just in sex. There's never been a guy I've met ever in my entire life who goes, I don't like blowjobs. Never. The first one I meet will be. The next one will be the first. Okay, but here's the thing that I want to speak to both men and women, having been single my entire life and everything. And one of the things that blows me away is about 50%, maybe 40 to 50% of women will go, I'm uncomfortable receiving oral sex. And it's not that they don't like, like the actual sensation they have. A fear of smell or taste, you know, or those types of things. And I always tell when women say something like that, oh, I'm hesitant. And I go, is it because you're uncomfortable? And I'm like, give me credit enough that if there is an issue, I'll bring it up. We have to be open with one.

[A]

Yeah, I do think it's important you're bringing that up because. Communication, key to intimacy. Open your mouth. Talk, talk, talk.

[B]

People ask me because we have all different products. They go, what's the most important thing people can do to improve their intimacy? And they're referring to products. They go, communicate. That's the most important thing.

[A]

I agree with you.

[B]

Without communication, I don't care what products you have. I don't care, you know, who you are, what you do. You can better your intimacy by having better communication.

[A]

But, you know, it's funny you're saying that, because I gotta tell you, I'm. You know, I'm very communicative.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I always talk about everything, like what I like, what I don't like, and all that. So the few relationships I've had after my husband died, every single guy that I date, they're like, oh, my God, you're so open. You really say what? They're like. They're surprised. You know, they get, like, shocked. Not in a bad way, but they always like, oh, wow, you know, I can't believe you. I'm like, that's a good thing, right? But how can you have a relationship, how can you develop any kind of intimacy if you don't really tell your partner everything that's important to you?

[B]

It doesn't make sense.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

It doesn't. I have a couple that I talk to. I'm very interactive with our customer base. I always send emails out when I see ordering patterns. And this. I remember talking to a couple. There's a woman who was ordering the product, and I said, oh, you seem to be ordering quite a bit. Yeah, it's for myself and my husband. And I said, oh, like, how long has this been an issue? She goes, 24 years.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And I go, 24 years? And you just started buying the product? She goes, yeah. I go, well, how are you dealing with it? She goes, we just suffered in silence.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I go, what? She goes, literally, we had three kids. My husband never lasted longer than 20 seconds. And she goes, we got to a point where we were just friends. We weren't even. And she goes, I was listening. I heard you on a podcast, and I thought we gotta try this. And I bought some. And bravo. And she goes, it's revolutionized our life. She goes, we now got back in the gym cause we realized we're not even fit enough to have really good sex because we're both out of shape cardiovascular wise. And we're taking yoga. And I go, so for 23 years you had this issue and you. I go, neither one of you brought it up. She goes, no, he was ashamed. I didn't want to, you know, whatever. A lot of times I'll do interactive things.

[A]

There's so much shame. There's so much shame if anybody out there is listening. If you're a couple, if you're a guy, if you're a girl, this is a great opportunity. Right during. You don't have to be in bed naked. I always suggest, like, let's say you're having a romantic dinner. You go out for head dinner.

[B]

That's when you bring it up.

[A]

Yeah, you have a glass of wine, say, oh, by the way, I listen to this show Cat on the Loose. Do you want to try this? It might be fun. Bring it up like casually and it's a, it's foreplay. If you go online, like you go to promisend.com and you're like, oh, you don't have to buy all of them at once, but maybe you can buy one like, like I said, the arousal gel.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And if you love it, you're like, you know, let's pick one new every few weeks. It can be like play game between the two of you. Right.

[B]

You know what I tell people because I've done interactive podcasts where they have people calling. And for the longest time, the first eight years, all we had was delay spray. And I used to tell people half of the calls are from women. And I knew if it was a woman, I knew what the question was going to be. We need this in our relationship. How can I bring it up without hurting his feelings? The male eagle is so. Male ego is so fragile that women suffer in silence because they go, oh my God, my guy's going to freak out if I tell him. You need to last a little bit longer.

[A]

I think the male ego lives in their penis. I really believe that.

[B]

Absolutely without doubt.

[A]

But I do think if you. There are many kind ways to say it. Yeah, without because, yeah, you're right. A lot of women say, I love my guy, but it'd be better. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but I think, like I said, bring it up in a couple type way. Like, I want to spice this up. I love you so much. I saw this product and you know, don't, don't make it all about you. And like you said, you don't have to hurt the person's feelings. Right. There are many ways to do it, but. And I love the idea, let's do another one and have people call in next time.

[B]

Oh, yeah, No, I love that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because it's like people, the host is always like, oh, my God, I didn't realize. I go, oh, no, trust me. The one thing that's interesting is one of the things I tell women when they ask me, how can I bring this up? I said, if you literally go, you need to last longer. You need to give this a lay spray. It's almost personalizing and the pressure. And I said, here's what you do. You say, let's have a 50 shades of gray night. I'm gonna get a riding crop and a feather duster and a blindfold, and then we'll get promesa and this. And then all of a sudden the whole focus shifts from you're not laughing long enough to, I want this night to be long because we have all these new things going on. And I tell women, if you want a guy to use his product, all you gotta do is get him to try it once. Because let me tell you something. Any guy that is alive and intimate and has been intimate for more than a couple years will tell you there's always been at least one or two occasions in your life, if not many more, where you're very aware of you're almost ready to climax and your partner's not done yet. And there's a little angel on one side, a little devil on the other. The little devil's going, oh, this is going to feel so good. Finish. The angel's going, no, no, no, let her go first. And you're going back and forth. And I tell women, guys love control. Guys love to be in control. And if a guy shifts from, I hope I last long enough to I'm going to give her two orgasms before I finish, he's not going to want to go back to having that anxiety. And I tell people, here's the thing. Do you ever, ever go out to dinner and it's two couples, whatever, and you see the woman driving, it's always the guy driving and the other guy in a passenger seat or one couple front.

[A]

I look, I don't want. I'm in control in my business life, in my professional life, in my personal life. I don't want to be driving you

[B]

don't want to be driving. Honest with you, but guys love to be in control. A guy's never in a backseat with his wife, and women think less of a guy if he goes, you take control.

[A]

Exactly. Because we want to be in our feminine energy.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's one thing that I keep saying. And it has nothing to do with how much money we have in the bank. No, we want a man to take charge in bed, in dates, in driving car.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Because it makes us feel like, okay, I'm this feminine being and I'm being taken care of and my man is

[B]

taking care of me. I don't have to worry, I don't have fear.

[A]

Thank you for saying that.

[B]

Does anyone ever want to be in a situation where you're walking down the street and all of a sudden somebody comes out and tries to jump you and a woman jumps out, Ah, I'm going to protect. No, there's just still in our society exists, the man is in control. The man is the protector. That doesn't mean I can't have relationship with someone more successful with me.

[A]

Right. Sometimes people say to me, that's what I'm saying. I keep repeating that because we're not talking about the money in the bank. We're talking about, like you said, the roles. The roles. You know, even if the woman is a multimillionaire, she still wants the guy to take charge in the personal relationship, planning dates, in the sex, in the car. And like you said, in life. Things in life.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But I don't want to run out of time before we talk about my stuff. So I want to move on a little bit. Because now, guys, listen up, please, and go look at the products. Go to the Cat on the Loose show, because the video is that. So I'm saying you have the spray and you also have the wipes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Why do you also do wipes? And what's the difference?

[B]

The wipes came along. They're not quite as effective as the spray. They're better for people who last six minutes but want to last nine minutes. Who last nine minutes, want to last 15 minutes.

[A]

So you wipe and it's. I think it's a little sexy as well, like a little foreplay.

[B]

Also, sometimes a guy's going to a club, they're, you know, going out in a day. He doesn't want to carry a little bottle around with him.

[A]

So it's tiny, by the way. That's the cute thing. Yes. You can travel with.

[B]

You can travel. But the wipes are like one of those Little, you know, those little wipes. When you go to get a shot, you open it up and you, you know, put the little alcohol pad. So they're very portable. You can stick it anywhere.

[A]

Very fine. I'm gonna open it.

[B]

Okay, Those. Yes, open it. Those are better.

[A]

I save the open ones for me.

[B]

Okay. Those are.

[A]

Whenever I find my prints, those are ex.

[B]

Already ready to go. Those are more for someone who just want. Doesn't have premature ejaculation.

[A]

It feels like in a little packet, like a condom and it's like urine swipe. I love the name.

[B]

Yes. So one is more for someone who suffers from pe. That's a spray.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And the other one's more for someone who recreational. He lasts seven minutes, but his partner takes 10 to 12 minutes.

[A]

And I would think, I mean, try both. Have fun with it.

[B]

Try both. We have people that order. We have a bundle on our site which is. Is delay spray and delay wipes.

[A]

Yeah. You have one that I want to ask you about because I know a lot of people don't want to take stuff like supplements, whatever you want to call it. I remember I had a boyfriend like that. Wonderful man. We became best friends, but he had a massive problem with the intimacy. I don't want to talk about his life, of course, but he never wanted to take stuff because when the doctor prescribed Viagra, he used to give him massive migraines. And then he's like, I'm jaded for life. I don't want to take stuff. But I do. See you have a supplement, right, Called Feel Ready, Feel Recharged. What does that do and what's in it?

[B]

It's called Vitaflux.

[A]

Vitaflux. Vitaflux. Okay.

[B]

Carnitine, L citrulline, L arginine, zinc and magnesium. Okay, so what it does, it increases blood flow. When it increases blood flow, it has many non sexual benefits. It decreases blood pressure.

[A]

So it naturally increases.

[B]

Naturally.

[A]

Because magnesium is a natural supplement. Zinc.

[B]

Oh, those are all three natural. I mean all three amino acids. Acids that has no side effects. It's wonderful.

[A]

That's why I wanted to ask what's

[B]

for both men and women, a lot

[A]

of people that take great care of their health, like you said, go to the gym. La la la. They want to know exactly what's in it.

[B]

This has no. This was developed by a very prominent urologist and he was giving it to his patients and he gave it to me and I started taking. I go, oh my God. And I said, can we commercialize this and make it a product Right. He said, yeah, so we did. Okay, so for both men and women, here's one of the things that'll amaze you. So every vein and artery in our body has an epithelial layer. It covers it. And what it's supposed to do is it allows hormones and vitamins and minerals to absorb and it keeps out bacteria and viruses and it's very supple and it works great until you get in your late 30s. Then it hardens. It gets even better at keeping bad stuff out. But then it starts keeping out vitamins, minerals and hormones. That's why after the age of late 30s, men and women both start having a higher percentage of body fat, half a percent per year, and lower lean muscle. So you have more body fat. That's because that epithelial layer hardens. Your hormones don't absorb. This reverses that. Oh, so.

[A]

So women can take that as well.

[B]

Oh, there's a women's and a men's. I think the women's bottle's right there.

[A]

I, ah, okay, maybe I didn't.

[B]

But also a lot of women, when your hormone levels go down, you lose the ability to naturally moisturize. So this reverses that. We have about 150, 200 women that take female vital specifically because it allowed them to regain the ability naturally moisturize such important information.

[A]

You know that moment when you're like,

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[A]

their 40s and their 50s that say oh my God. You know even like using my vibrator hurts. The first thing I want to say is use a great loop lube.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Use a great lube. This one is really good for by the way.

[B]

Yeah, that's my favorite.

[A]

I freaking love it.

[B]

I don't know how people use silicone lube. If I use silicone lube it takes me two days to scrub it off. My clothes are sticking to me. I'm like get out of here with that.

[A]

Yeah. So have a good lube. That solves the problem. But I did not know about this product. I did not know. So this is super important information.

[B]

But it. It increases blood flow flow. So it gives you a more intense orgasm. And for men, now, if you're impotent, it's not going to make you some wild raging stallion, but it'll increase your ability to Harden by about 5%. And who doesn't want that? Especially when you get in your 50s, 60s, you want to feel like you're 18 or 20 or 25 again. So it has the ability, by increasing blood flow, to give you firmer erections again. But it's not a substitute for Viagra Cell.

[A]

No. And it shouldn't be. But what I love about this product. Yeah. And I mean, that would be an entire other episod old. You know, if you have issues getting hard.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If you have issues with impotency, I think that's. That's a more complicated. I think the. This is more like to enhance. That's exactly what it is. Life. To make it better.

[B]

He doesn't want lower blood pressure, better health.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Who doesn't want.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know, lower body fat, higher dense muscle. I mean, the benefits of Vitaflux are insane. It's a great, great product developed by a urologist. Yes.

[A]

Yeah, I know all my guy friends, all my male audience is going to start like, texting me. I want to understand, but I think also I want to point out you are living proof with your company and your lifestyle. And you look great, you're in great shape. That you know, a lot of men and women, of course, but a lot of men, they start mentally thinking that it's a normal part of life, life slowing down intimacy and their sex life as they age. And I completely disagree.

[B]

I completely disagree.

[A]

I. For women, I'm like, better and better

[B]

and better confidence and actually the shame level goes down and the communication skills. You might not be the raging stallion physically you were, but when you take that total combination of actually knowing how to please your partner, how to be open, how to ask the right questions, you're going to have better intimacy because you're not just fumbling through going, oh, my God, you know, I'm using strictly what I was given. Physically, you understand how to communicate, how emotionally to turn on your partner. And I tell people this all the time, especially men. Men and women are wired a little differently. A woman, if you want to have the best intimacy, text her in the morning, say, I Can't wait to see you tonight. You know what I mean? And then at noon, hey, four more hours and we're gonna be here. You're really starting foreplay.

[A]

Like romance?

[B]

They like romance, but also, it's extended foreplay for the begin of the day. And there's a podcast I did called Two Wild Orchids, or these Two Ladies. And so, same thing as here. We send them all the products. I went and I did the podcast and everything. So then we did a remote podcast. I was in my home office, and the one says to me, guess what I'm wearing today? And I said, I have no idea. What are you wearing? And she goes, take a guess. I go, I don't know. I can only see you from the waist up. I go, you have a blue blazer on and a cream shirt. She goes, no, I'm wearing female arousals. And I go, what? And she goes, I love the female arousal gel so much. She goes, in the morning, I give myself a little dab, and she goes, I just feel warm and tingly. Then at lunch, she goes. I go, another dab. She goes, when I come home at the end of the day for my partner, I feel like I've had eight hours of foreplay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I can tell you the difference between men and women. If a guy was sitting at his desk and he started feeling arousal, he would be in the restroom.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Taking care of himself, going, oh, my God, I want to fit. But women love that crock pot. You know what I mean? Like, I want it to simmer, and I want to build it up.

[A]

Like you said, foreplay, anticipation. While we were talking previously.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Knowing that your guy is planning a date or planning a romantic evening at home. I think all of these things make sex more pleasurable. Makes it pleasurable for especially, I mean, women. I know a lot of women like me. I need that mental connection with my partner. So I need to know that we're on the same wavelength. And, of course, if you bring up, oh, we're gonna try a new gel tonight. Oh, I have a little surprise for you. I have this and that and that. I mean, I think it just spices it up even more.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

But like you said, don't. I. I. It breaks my heart when I hear people in their 50s and their 60s and they're thinking, oh, it's just the way life is, you know, I shouldn't be having greats and. No, like, no, you should be having

[B]

the best sex life every single year. My son, he's 37 now, but when he was 20 20, maybe 20, 21. He was our customer service. Repeat calls me one day, he goes, what are our mental health benefits? Like? I go, mental health? Why do you need mental health? He goes, some guy had an order and on his order thing it said, have it sent, hold at the front desk and then have him call such and such. I wanted to make sure we got all that correct. And I called him, I go, are you staying in a hotel? Hotel? He goes, no, I'm in an old house phone. I'm old folks home, 92. And he goes, Dad, I just picture some 92 year old guy with some 90 year old woman. Oh my God.

[A]

And I said, why not?

[B]

I said, nick, you know, I would high five the guy if he was here right now. Okay.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I go, that gives me hope because at the time I was like 58, now I'm 68. And I go, hey, that's great.

[A]

Look, and I will tell you, and I always say that, and I know a lot of people think I'm crazy, but I always say if people were having more sex, more orgasms and less medication, less anti depressed and less of all this crap, especially in the United States, because you go to the doctor, they're like, here, take this description.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They don't even want to know you. They prescribe if you're having more sex, sunshine, sex, exercise. But having more orgasm, I think the world would be a much better place.

[B]

There'd be a lot less violence, less wars.

[A]

People that have great sex, even if it's with themselves, like me, they're much more peaceful people than usually the angry people.

[B]

Let me ask you a question.

[A]

Are sexually frustrated.

[B]

Exactly. Did anyone ever start a fight right after having an orgasm? Hell no. Okay, you're too busy. Like in the glow.

[A]

Yes. It lasts a long time.

[B]

But somebody who is not having sex and who's frustrated is flipping people off. They're having road rage because they're like something's missing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What might be missing is intimacy.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But let's face it, even outside of the actual orgasm, people need to feel touch. People need to feel connected. It gives you a sense of calm. It gives you a of sense. Sense of I'm valued.

[A]

Yeah. You know, 1 million. Yes, 1 million percent. I am like I'm. I'm. God's honest truth, I'm a huge fan. I tried everything that I could try by myself.

[B]

Well, we got to get you trying everything.

[A]

Yes. But listen, I want to mention, if you guys want to give it a try, go to Promise. I'm putting the. The link to the. The website here on this episode. Okay. So you guys can find that. It's promescent.com, but you're giving us a discount. I think it's Cat 15, but I'm gonna double check.

[B]

Double check. I believe it is Cat 15.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love.

[A]

So give it a shot. And I want to mention that all the products do come in discrete packaging because unfortunately there. We know there's still stigma around it. Some people want to be discreet. Whether you're in the nursing home or whatever you live.

[B]

It comes in a sense in the return address AP llc, which is ZOR for pharma schools. Living liability. Yeah, no, because here's the thing.

[A]

Basically what we're saying is it doesn't say, like, you know, nothing promescent or

[B]

lace brain or anything.

[A]

So you can order if you don't want.

[B]

Totally discreet.

[A]

Your UPS driver to know it's totally discreet. Only you and your partner are gonna know. So, hey, girls, guys, couples, give it a shot. Make sex fun and exciting and better and better and better and better. As long as we're alive, right, Chad?

[B]

That's right.

[A]

That's our message.

[B]

I'm gonna stop having int. Bury me or cremate me or whatever. You know what I mean?

[A]

I always say I want to be buried in my lobotons, and if I'm not. If I'm not in a relationship, my vibrator.

[B]

Because what's your favorite vibrator?

[A]

So it's a long story, but I actually had started up my own line because I was testing a bunch.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So, yeah, I. I have my.

[B]

That's nice.

[A]

Yeah. So. But. But I'm always game to trying new things. You know, I always say, like, you

[B]

don't know until you try.

[A]

Exactly. Like, I have sex brands that send me toys all the time. And I. And I'm like, of course. You know, I'm a huge advocate because like I said, for. For 15 years, I. I had a. A husband that was very controlling. I could barely talk about sex. We barely had sex. Yeah, the. My. My listeners know the story, so. And I. I never cheated. Never cheated, ever, ever, ever. I was super frustrated, but I was like. And if I. If I had to masturbate, I had to do it when he wasn't home because if I was using a vibrator, he'd be like, you fucking whore.

[B]

Are you serious?

[A]

I'm dead serious.

[B]

See, I'm avoiding.

[A]

I'm dead serious.

[B]

A lot of times early on in a relationship, I will ask my partner to masturbate for me.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's.

[B]

Sometimes they're really shy. And I go, listen, all women are different. You know, your body's different. And I go, you can allow me to fumble around for a month and kind of learn, or I can unlock the keys to the castle by watching you. One time I would go, oh, she doesn't like direct simulations like this. Like this kind of pressure. That kind of pressure. That's very important.

[A]

Yeah. And I will say that that's a huge part of why I do the show, because I'm a massive advoc for women. Women and men having great, fulfilling sexual lives, whether you're alone or with a partner. But go for it and don't be shy and don't let anybody ever take that away from you.

[B]

Do you know the fastest growing segment in the vibrator market now are male masturbatory products.

[A]

Oh, cool. I did.

[B]

We have a product, it's sitting right there called Go solo. It's a men's masturbatory cream. It's right in front of the box there.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go Solo. Yes. I saw that.

[B]

It's for men to masturbate because a lot of urologists were telling us that men were coming with chafing because a lot of men feel uncomfortable. They just want to get it over with. They feel if they have their own lotion, their own whatever, then it means that they can't find her. It doesn't mean that at all. Okay. It means that just like women, you want to get a feel for what you like before you're with someone.

[A]

Try new things, guys. Try new things. Thank you so much. Such an honor having you here. I got a box, like a gift box with one of everything. And I'm going to figure out how we're going to do a giveaway, probably on. On social media.

[B]

Whatever else you need, let me know.

[A]

So make sure you guys stay tuned and I will definitely invite you back for another conversation.

[B]

Such a lovely. I look forward to it.

[A]

Thank you so much, Jeff. Guys, be safe out there. Go have some psych. Go get some great orgasms as intense as possible. Thank you, Jeff. This was amazing. I'll see you guys very soon. Thank you.