Podcast Summary: "INTIMACY, FANTASIES & DELICIOUS SEX AT ANY AGE" with Susan Bratton on Kat on the Loose
Release Date: July 23, 2025
Introduction
In this candid and insightful episode of Kat on the Loose, host Kat Zammuto welcomes intimacy expert Susan Bratton to discuss the nuanced dynamics of intimacy, sexual fantasies, and enhancing sexual experiences at any age. The conversation delves deep into the importance of open communication in relationships, understanding female sexuality, and practical strategies to foster passionate and fulfilling connections.
Breaking the Taboo: Open Conversations About Sex [02:00 - 05:13]
Susan Bratton emphasizes the necessity of normalizing conversations around sex to dismantle lingering taboos and shame. She states:
“I love normalizing women speaking freely about sex, which should be a very, very healthy and important part of our lives.” [01:35]
Kat concurs, highlighting the transformative impact of experts like Susan in paving the way for more open dialogues:
“People like you help normalize.” [04:26]
Understanding Female Sexuality and Cyclical Desires [05:14 - 07:25]
Susan introduces the concept of women as "agentic lovers," suggesting that women possess agency over their sexuality, allowing them to express their desires dynamically. She elaborates on the hormonal cycles that influence women's sexual needs:
“When you tune into what your body's asking for in the moment... that's just how we are.” [07:26]
This understanding encourages women to embrace their changing desires and communicate them effectively with their partners.
The Sexual Soulmate Pact: A Practical Tool for Couples [07:26 - 10:11]
Addressing the challenges couples face in communicating sexual needs, Susan introduces the "Sexual Soulmate Pact"—a structured approach to facilitate open and non-judgmental conversations about sex. She explains:
“It's called the sexual soulmate pact. P A C T, like an agreement... it overcomes this issue where...” [08:44]
This pact aims to transform criticisms into constructive feedback, fostering a supportive environment where both partners feel valued and understood.
Handling Partner Reactions to Fantasies [10:12 - 21:00]
Kat shares a personal anecdote about her partner expressing a fantasy, highlighting the common fear of judgment and rejection. Susan advises:
“Don't make him feel bad about it... Instead, use the sexual soulmate pact to frame it as feedback.” [14:05]
Susan provides techniques such as sharing fantasies through storytelling during intimate moments, which allows partners to explore desires without direct requests, thereby reducing anxiety and opening avenues for mutual exploration.
Enhancing Intimacy with Sexual Toys [21:01 - 40:03]
The conversation shifts to the role of sexual toys in enriching sexual experiences. Susan showcases various products, explaining their benefits in activating different parts of the yoni (a tantric term for the entirety of female genitalia):
“These toys are activating multiple pathways to pleasure, enhancing both internal and external stimulation.” [32:08]
She emphasizes that using toys can expand a woman's orgasmic capacity and should be seen as complementary tools rather than replacements for intimate connections.
Kat raises a common concern among men about toys overshadowing their performance:
“Guys say, ‘She's gonna like the toy more than she likes my dick.’ What do you say to that?” [35:00]
Susan counters by framing toys as instruments that enhance overall pleasure and communication, not as competitors:
“It's about expanding my orgasmic capacity for pleasure using these toys... I'm activating the yoni to brain so that I feel more pleasure with and without them.” [39:38]
Overcoming Shame and Embracing Dirty Talk [40:04 - 46:54]
Susan addresses the discomfort many feel around "dirty talk," offering strategies to break through shame and incorporate auditory elements into lovemaking:
“Moaning is the first step to being able to find your words. Then you can express appreciation, adoration, and specific desires.” [45:00]
Kat shares her preference for vocal expressions during sex, reinforcing the importance of auditory feedback:
“I cannot stand a partner that is silent in bed... I love when somebody talks dirty to me.” [42:52]
Susan suggests starting with natural sounds and gradually introducing verbal expressions to build confidence and enhance the sexual experience.
Sexual Empowerment at Any Age [46:55 - 47:18]
The discussion culminates with a powerful affirmation of sexual expression regardless of age. Susan proudly declares:
“I am normalizing what sexy is... I will be doing this at 84 and 94.” [46:54]
Kat echoes this sentiment, celebrating mature women embracing their sexuality:
“Maturing is beautiful... it gets better as you learn what you want.” [47:05]
Handling Negative Feedback and Embracing Self-Love [48:03 - 48:50]
Susan shares her approach to dealing with online trolls and negative comments about her sexual expression:
“I feel bad that they've been taught so much shame... I just am happy that I am me and I am an agentic, sexually expressed woman.” [48:03]
Kat aligns with this compassionate stance, advocating for self-love and resilience against societal judgment:
“I send them a lot of love... they need more compassion and more love.” [48:23]
Conclusion
Kat and Susan wrap up the episode by reiterating the significance of open communication, embracing one's desires, and utilizing tools and techniques to enhance sexual experiences. They encourage listeners to prioritize their sexual well-being and foster authentic, passionate relationships.
“Go have some delicious sex. Tell your partners what you want in bed. Because you're gonna have better sex lives.” [49:28]
Notable Quotes
- “I love normalizing women speaking freely about sex...” — Susan Bratton [01:35]
- “It's called the sexual soulmate pact...” — Susan Bratton [08:44]
- “Moaning is the first step to being able to find your words.” — Susan Bratton [45:00]
- “I am normalizing what sexy is...” — Susan Bratton [46:54]
- “We are beautiful women until the day...” — Susan Bratton [47:07]
Key Takeaways
- Open Communication: Essential for expressing desires and enhancing intimacy in relationships.
- Understanding Sexual Cycles: Recognizing hormonal fluctuations can help partners navigate changing sexual needs.
- Sexual Soulmate Pact: A tool to facilitate non-judgmental discussions about sex and feedback.
- Embracing Sexual Tools: Sexual toys can augment pleasure and help women explore diverse pathways to orgasm.
- Overcoming Shame: Breaking societal taboos around dirty talk and sexual expression leads to more fulfilling sexual experiences.
- Empowerment at Any Age: Sexuality is a lifelong journey, and embracing it enhances overall well-being.
Connect with Susan Bratton:
- Website: sexualsoulmatepact.com
- Books: Dirty Talk: How to Talk Dirty Without Feeling Weird available at DirtyTalkBook.com
- Instagram: @DriveDesire
Join Kat on the Loose Weekly:
- Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, and YouTube at Kat on the Loose Show
This summary encapsulates the core discussions and insights shared between Kat Zammuto and Susan Bratton, providing listeners and newcomers alike with a comprehensive understanding of fostering intimacy and embracing sexual empowerment.