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Kat
My guests today, Dominic Tuni and Rhea Gibson are two adorable, super intelligent, amazing ladies and they wrote an incredible book and journal called It's Just Fat Baby about their journeys with weight loss, body acceptance, self love and self care.
Dominic Tuni
And I think this is such an.
Kat
Important subject that pretty much all of us on this planet can relate at one point or another in our lives. I'm sure we have looked at ourselves in the mirror and thought, oh my God, I don't like what I see. Should I lose weight? What should I do about it? And they are so raw and so real about their journey and how they got to the point where they're at today. I absolutely fell in love with their work and it was such an honor and pleasure having them on the show. And I highly recommend the book because like I said, not only they talk about their own personal journeys, but it's an adorable journal. It's an exercise that you can actually do yourself of self reflection, self love and self care, which is obviously something that I always love. I hope you guys really enjoyed this episode. It's just Fat Baby because at the end of the day it's all about self love. And on this very special episode where we are going to talk about weight, body size, body positivity, self acceptance. I want to tell you guys about a brand that I started a few years ago for body positivity Girly Ala Mode. We are building a worldwide community for self love and inclusion. Our hashtag is Everybody is beautiful. Every single piece in all of the collections are things that everyone can wear and feel amazing, regardless of size or age, background, race. It makes you feel amazing. It's cozy. Hoodies, sweatshirts, sweatpants, T shirts, long sleeves, beanies. Now for the winter, the best selling organic tote and I make sure that everything there is under 100 bucks. Because most of us don't have unlimited budget to buy gifts. So check it out. Girly G I R L I E Girl Shopping. You can buy gifts for everyone. You can get stuff for yourself without breaking the bank and encourage self love and inclusion, which I think is so important now that summer is over. Did you guys know that Cancun and Tulum have become the top fall destinations that Americans are eagerly searching for on platforms such as Expedia. And it's easy to see why.
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Rhea Gibson
Dominic, Henria, welcome. So much to cut on the loose. It's such a pleasure. Have you girls here.
Dominic Tuni
Yes. Thank you. It is such an honor to be here with. You have no idea.
Rhea Gibson
Oh my God. It's an honor to have you because let me tell you, I love your book. Congratulations.
Thank you.
Your girls did really, really well. That's an amazing book.
Dominic Tuni
We appreciate it, truly. Thank you so much. Yeah, we had, you know, it was such a learning process for us and we just, you know, let's just put our thoughts on the paper and just go with it.
Rhea Gibson
Yeah. So that's the first question. How did you decide? Because it's a very personal book, which I loved. I know it's so hard and we're going to talk about it. I know it's so hard for all of us girls, right, to talk about our weight weight journey, how it affects our lives. And I think it's such an important conversation. But you girls got really personal. Like, you talk about your relationships, you talk about your weight journey, and then I love that you do this little journal thing, which I'm huge about journaling. I love writing and you put these questions that we can actually reflect on it. But how did you come up with that idea?
Dominic Tuni
I have to give credit to Dominique because Dominique is really big on journaling. So she is the mastermind behind putting the journal inside of the book. So credit to Dominique on that one for sure. And I just went with it like, you know, she never steers us wrong with Any idea that she had. So I just kind of go with the flow. Like, you know what? Okay, we can do it. Why not? So I felt like, you know, when she presented that idea of putting a journal inside, it was more so making sure people had that reflective piece as they read along with us. And we put that reflection inside after a story that they kind of sat back and thought about their own lives after they, you know, read a particular portion of our life with us. And then they kind of had the opportunity to say, well, you know, where was I at at that particular moment in my life? And how did something make me feel during that time? You know?
Rhea Gibson
Totally. And it's interesting because as I started reading the book, when I saw the journal part, which same. Dominic, I love writing. I've been journaling forever. It helps me get back in my life and remember, like, the tough times and how much I changed and evolved. I'm a huge fan of writing, like, literally writing on pen and paper. You know, I don't care about technology. If you guys look at my desk, any given day, I have 10 million pieces of pen and paper. And I love that. That you tell a story and then you're like, have you ever been through this? Have you ever been through that? And at the end of the day, this is what I was thinking today before the podcast, because you girls on the east coast, you had a completely different upbringing than me. And I thought at the end of the day, we all go. Go through a lot of the same shit, right?
Dominic Tuni
Absolutely.
Rhea Gibson
We all, like, think about it. We're very critical about our bodies. We all have ups and downs. We all feel good or bad about our weight about how we relate to other people. Doesn't matter where you are in the world. We're only human at the end of the day, right?
Dominic Tuni
That's true. Yes, absolutely.
Rhea Gibson
And you girls get really raw and real in the book. So tell me, how did you decide to write about it? Because it's not easy to put yourselves out there, you know?
Well, we've been friends for a really long time, a really long time since high school. And we're not super old, but, you know, we're a little up there. So we were having a conversation like we always do, and started talking about how it was really hard to be overweight kids, and we always hoped that.
Dominic Tuni
We would grow out of it, grow.
Rhea Gibson
Out of our baby fat. And we never did. We just got bigger. The conversation just kept going. We said, you know, what if we really shared these stories with somebody? What if we really Shared with people how we heal, how we had horrible friendships, horrible relationships, and, you know, what we could do to really help somebody else to not have to go through what we went through. And so that's when we decided, let's heal, let's be transparent, and let's really share our story like we never done before.
I love that because same. I do the same with the podcast. I'm very open and raw because I think this is how we learn together and we heal and we figure out how to move forward. And I think wait is a very delicate subject. No matter, like I said, no matter where we are in the world, no matter who we are, I think you can ask any woman in the world, even if you ask a supermodel, doesn't matter how perfect they are, they don't feel great every single day. And you said, we grew up chubby, and we grew up fat, and we grew up overweight. And you were. You were, like, super bullied as a kid, and then you. You didn't grow out of it. Some kids grow up maybe super skinny or super tall, and they get bullied as well nowadays, I think, because when I grew up, I'm. I'm sure I'm older than you guys, but when I grew up, we didn't have even social media nowadays. I cannot imagine being a kid with social media. Right.
Dominic Tuni
I think the same thing all the time. I'm like, I can't imagine, you know, being that age, like, middle school, high school, and having the pressures of social media flood my mind. 24. I am so thankful I did grow up in that age, that. That era that I grew up in, because I just felt like we were able to kind of slow down and grow up, like, in the principal amount of time that we were able to. Because I think kids probably now, today, they feel so pressured to grow up much faster because of social media. All this, you know, constant incoming, you know, waves of technology and pressure of people telling them, like, this is what you should look like, this is what you should strive to achieve. And this is, you know, just constantly coming in. And it's just like, you know, they don't know what they should be or how they should be, and they don't even have the time to really identify, you know, being themselves. Yeah.
Rhea Gibson
The problem is nowadays bullying comes not only, like, with the kids in school, bully bullying comes on social media by total strangers, Right. People that don't even know us, they look at your account and they call you all kinds of names and they assume shit about you that without even knowing, I kind of just laugh it off. But I'm sure for teenagers, younger people, it must be, like, super tough. And you actually put a quote in your book. I wrote it down here because it's one of the nicest quotes. And you girls, by the way, congratulations, because you. You did a ton of research to find some incredible quotes that you. That you put throughout the book. But this is one of my favorites that I'm never going to forget. So I wrote it down here about bullying. Bullying is not a reflection of the victim's character, but a. But rather a sign of the bully's lack of character. I love that.
Dominic Tuni
Yeah, it's so true.
Rhea Gibson
It's so true.
Dominic Tuni
Hurt people.
Rhea Gibson
Hurt people. Yeah, I love that, and it's so true.
Dominic Tuni
I just. I really went through bullying, like, in my early stages of childhood, and it kind of, like, tapered off once I got to, like, fifth, sixth grade. But I felt it so hard. You know, preschool, you know, first through or. Yeah, preschool through maybe third grade. It just hit so hard for me, and I just will never forget how I felt in those moments. And I just, you know, tried to not be that person to make somebody feel bad because I was in those, you know, shoes at one point in time.
Rhea Gibson
It stays with you, right? If somebody calls you. Whatever. Fat. Fats. Fatso. Yeah. Chubby. Whatever it is, you know, it sticks with you for a really long time.
It does. For the rest of your life, you know?
Yeah.
Even if you lose weight, gain weight, whatever. It stays. That whole thing where it says they.
Dominic Tuni
Break your bones, but words don't hurt.
Rhea Gibson
They do hurt. Of course they do. You know, they create those lasting scars.
Yeah. The part that, you know, when I was reading the book, by the way, the COVID is so adorable, guys. It's like a scale and a little cupcake on top of the scale. I love it. But we're gonna talk about the COVID how you guys came up with the name. But what I was thinking today, that. And I want your opinion. I. As a woman, and I. I was never overweight, but of course, I have my ups and downs, and I had the. I had the opposite of the spectrum. When my mom died a few Years ago in 2017, I lost a ton of weight because my mom died, and a year later, my husband died. So I went through severe trauma in my life. And I'm thin. Thin. Yeah. I'm like, 117 pounds. But I lost so much weight. I was like £112. I was £111.12. And I remember at the time I was hiding my pain, you know, working and doing all the things that I had to do. And people looked at me and they're like, oh, you look so great, you look so great. You look so great. And I never had been more unhealthy. I couldn't eat. I was so weak, I thought I was going to die. You know, I ended up in the hospital with a kidney infection because I couldn't eat. And I remember just because I was thin, you know, because that's what society expects, I guess, of you. And I remember when I used to go home and cry because I. I literally couldn't eat because I was in so much mental pain.
Dominic Tuni
Right.
Rhea Gibson
And after that, as I started recovering, you know, nowadays I feel like, okay, I'm. I never want to go that low. I'm happy with the way I am. But I always ask, I always question myself, why do we feel as women that we have to talk about it? You know what I mean? Like, oh, I'm too thin or I'm too fat or I'm this, I'm that. I feel like we always have to justify our weight. Yeah, I don't feel men have to do that too much. I think it's always on us. Do you guys feel that pressure? Do you agree with me?
Dominic Tuni
I do. I feel like men probably have different pressures like career status. They probably have different pressures of financial status. Theirs is more maybe financial or career based. Women, I feel like it's just more appearance based. But I feel like also now too, you know, times have changed where women have, you know, just as equal amount of pressure not only to, you know, look good, but, you know, if you're career driven, you know, have the pressure of, you know, your career, you have the pressure of appearance, you have the pressure of, you know, if you're married or not, you know, do you have a family or not? We have so much more pressure on us just because times have changed. And I feel like it just makes. It makes it worse.
Rhea Gibson
Yeah, I just think we get criticized, you know, it personally, it drives me crazy when I hear somebody criticizing a woman's body. I don't care who they are because I think we can be beautiful on any size. Honestly. Honestly, Honestly, I don't think it is one size fits all. You know, I don't think that there is such a thing. But when I hear even women criticizing other women or a guy saying, oh my God, you know, she's fat or she's too thin or she doesn't have a butt or she has A butt. It drives me crazy, out of my mind. I don't think we should even have this conversation, you know, about women's bodies.
Dominic Tuni
That's true.
Rhea Gibson
But it's the way that we've been programmed, you know, ever since. If you go back and you think about Barbie and how Barbie looked and she was perfect yet, and, you know.
Dominic Tuni
It'S that same thing. I think every woman is just striving.
Rhea Gibson
In her own sense to be that perfect, whether it's a Coke bottle, whether it's Barbie, whatever it is, to be that perfect woman into have some type of accolades that she receives because of it, you know?
Yeah. How do you get to the point that. Because you guys. I mean, okay, let's. Let's wait, wait. Because you. You wrote. It's a very rich book, by the way, because you talk about your journey growing up. You talk about a lot of relationships. Same. We've all been there, right? Hooking up with the wrong man, going back to the wrong man. Same thing. As I was reading the book, I'm like, been there, done that. Hence the podcast. We've all been. You can talk to girls all over the world. We all have similar stories. And then there's also. I don't know if you girls do that, but the emotional eating right, right? Like, when I'm too sad, I do, like, 90% of the time, I eat super healthy, super clean. It's just my lifestyle because it makes me feel good. And then if something bad happens to me, I'm the person that I'll go, like, I'll cry with the food. You know, I'll go and buy something that I love and I do the emotional eating right. And you got you. You girls wrote about that as well.
Dominic Tuni
So I know for me, there was a point in time where there were certain items that I would not even buy. Like, I would not buy ice cream. I would not buy certain brands of chips, because I know I get started, I wouldn't know how to stop. I couldn't control myself. So I know for me, there are just certain things that I won't even buy. I mean, now it's a little bit different just because I had weight loss surgery back in 2021, and I'm very. Just very routine and I have a very strict regimen for myself. You know, if I overindulge now, it's because I ate literally maybe 812 nacho cheese Doritos, and that's it. That's like my splurge for like a week. But, you know, back then, I Just could not keep certain things in the house because I did not know how to just have, like, you know, the serving size on the container. I would go ham and that would be it. So I could definitely relate to the emotional eating. And then I feel like too, in our society, food is centered around, like, celebrations. You know, we, you know, have a graduation party, there's lots of food, baby shower, we celebrate with food. It's a wedding, we celebrate with food. And somebody, you know, is having a bridal shower. We celebrate with food, you know, some type of sporting event, Somebody's having a party, we celebrate with food. Like, food is the center of everything that we do, whether it's something positive or negative. Like, food is the center of it all, you know?
Rhea Gibson
Yeah, for sure. And I want to talk about your surgery because you were very open about that in the book. You said that. And I know a lot of people have questions about it, but it's interesting because you said you tried everything, right? You tried yo yo dieting in your weight loss journey. You tried all kinds of fad diets. You tried a bunch of things before you got to the point that you're like, I'm going to do the gastric bypass.
Dominic Tuni
Yeah, I had the, the BSG surgery, which is the gastric sleeve. But this, my struggle with weight, like, was literally from birth. Okay. I was heavy as a preschooler all the way up until I had my gastric sleeve surgery. And it wasn't that, you know, I was a stranger to the gym. It just felt like for me, the older I got, the harder it was for the weight to come off. And I was signed up for people boot camps. I was no stranger to, you know, going to some of the well known boot camps in our city, personal trainers. And the last stop that I made was my personal trainer when I lived in Virginia Beach. And it was nothing. He did absolutely nothing wrong. He was an amazing trainer. The problem was after a while, when your body is constantly going through this battle of, are we losing weight? Are we gaining weight? Are we, you know, on a diet, we. Not on a diet. It doesn't know what it wants to do anymore. So, you know, you just kind of, you know, stay at this, you know, space of holding on to weight. And for me, I just got tired. I just got tired of fighting that battle with myself. And I just felt like, you know what, Let me go talk to a doctor. I'm gonna use this as a tool. And I knew a few people in my personal life who had had the surgery. They had been Successful. So, you know, I just made that decision that was best for me and so far it's been working. So.
Rhea Gibson
So it's been a few years and now you feel like you're happy you got used to the lifestyle?
Dominic Tuni
Oh yeah, it's. I feel like it was the best decision I could have ever made for myself. You know, not everybody, you know, has the best outcome, but I feel like it's a mental, it's definitely a mental change that you have to make. And if you're not mentally prepared to make all of the life adjustments, you may not be as successful as you would want to be because it's not a quick fix. You have to be constantly working at it every single day. You can't go lay on a surgery table, they can't do what they have to do and then you're not going to come out in two days losing X amount of weight. You have to constantly work at it every day. You have to stick to the portion sizes, you have to go to the gym, you have to take those vitamins and it's something you do 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Rhea Gibson
And you said you have actually to go through a lot of tests, right? Like psychological tests, because they want to make sure that you are the right candidate for it. Probably. Because, because like you said, they want to make sure that it's not just a person that thinks, oh yeah, this is going to be a quick fix and it's going to solve all my problems and that's it. Right. They want to make sure that you know what you're getting into.
Dominic Tuni
Yeah, absolutely. You talk to a psychiatrist, you go see a nutritionist for a few months, more than likely the doctor is going to ask you to lose, you know, a certain amount of weight on your own before you go see the, before you finally have your surgery date. I mean, it's a lot of steps that you have to take. You know, it's usually about a six month process. Yeah, usually a six to eight month process depending on like your insurance coverage. But I, I just, you know, I had no money.
Rhea Gibson
Well, it worked for you. So yeah, it could be an option for somebody that tried everything else and nothing else worked. Right.
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Rhea Gibson
But you girls talk about something else that I completely agree and I probably think it's on top of the pyramid. Self love. I think at any size anything that you do is only gonna work if you decide whatever you're gonna do, it's because you love yourself.
Dominic Tuni
That part, yes.
Rhea Gibson
So to me this was one of the most important parts of the book. Do you girls want to talk about that for a second?
Yes. I think that when we were discussing just even writing the book, we had to figure out, do we love ourselves? And the book was truly a healing process. It was us being as transparent and open as we've ever been. And a lot of the stories we've told, our families didn't even know, you know, they didn't know about, like, for instance, me being teased as a child or some of the things that I experienced. So writing the book, we had to really reflect and really say, no matter what happens, no matter what we look like, no matter, you know, what we look like down the road, we love ourselves. Regardless of how others have treated us, we love ourselves. And now because we know our worth, we know what we're no longer willing to accept, no longer willing to compromise. So that's the message that we really want to share with women, men, whoever, you have to love yourself first. You can't expect for another person to complete you or to make you whole. You have to be home. You have to like you by yourself and with another person. And when you do that, people will treat you better.
Dominic Tuni
Yeah.
Rhea Gibson
Because you demand a different level of respect. You know. You know that you're not leftovers. You know that you belong at the table and you have a seat, and you know that a person would be lucky to have you.
Yeah.
So that's really our message.
I love, love, love that, because I think that's the best antidote, even against bullying, because no matter what people say about you, if you know your value, regardless of your size, regardless of what you look like, nothing is going to affect you. And I think that's the most important for me. It took me decades to get to this point. I wasn't bullied technically about my weight, but believe it or not, I was. And to this day, I'm bullied because, you know, I'm Latin, but I don't look Latin, right. Because I'm half Latin and half European. And people don't believe me when I tell them that I'm Latin. And then because I still have an accident, accident accent, I still have an accent, although I've lived in the United States, like, pretty much my entire life. No, people don't believe me. I'm like, yes, I'm an American, but I never lost my accent. So they bully me because of that. They make fun of me because of that. But for so long, used to bother me, you know, I always felt, like, inferior, and I was Embarrassed of my. Yes. Nowadays, like, this journey of knowing my value and my worth and what I'm capable of. When people make fun of me, I just laugh it off. I'm like, nothing affects me anymore at this point in my life, you know? But it's a journey to get here, to accept. Accept yourself this much. It's not like an overnight thing, right?
Dominic Tuni
No, it's not.
Rhea Gibson
Not at all. And I think once you realize that, everybody gets bullied, everyone gets made funny, People will find the smallest state or anything that they see as different or they see as a threat, and they will make fun of you. A lot of times, the people who bully you want to be you, jealous of what they feel like you possess, even though you don't feel like you're that great. So I think that's the key, is to recognize, again, your own worth and know, hey, if you dislike me this much, that means I'm doing something right. Michael Jordan said that.
As sad as it is, right, Because I agree with you. I think usually the people that like, even like the people, the trolls on social media, usually they're the jealous ones, right? The ones that are not doing what we are doing, they're jealous of our work. But it makes me sad because I kind of want to live in a world where we are so supportive of each other that we make each other stronger. That's the world I want to read.
And we should be like that. But I think we have to create the culture to be that. Yes, I love eating by example and showing people you don't have to be someone else.
Dominic Tuni
Down. We can all win.
Rhea Gibson
You can all do well together, love each other and protect each other, especially as women.
Dominic Tuni
You know, Kat, that is exactly how I got turned on to your podcast, because I was actually. I think I had just kind of listened to Dr. Cheyenne Bryan and her episode with Cam Newton. So I was just kind of, you know, doing a surge for, on my iPad or itunes podcast for Dr. Cheyenne Bryant episodes. And I was like, oh, she's on the body image one with you and your friend Cat at the time. And so once I heard that episode with her and you all, I was like, oh, well, let's see what Cat on the Loose is about. And I just, like, started listening to all these different episodes, and I just found that particular episode about, like, body image and self esteem to be so, you know, very valuable and so true. And I hope, you know, people can go back and listen to that episode that you all talked about, because everything was so spot on, especially that point you all made about, you know, people compare themselves to the Kardashians. That is an unrealistic expectation.
Rhea Gibson
Oh, my God. Yes.
Dominic Tuni
That is such an unrealistic expectation to me. You know, it's just. People just have to learn how to love who they are, deal with. You have to work with what you have. And if you want to be better for you, that's the key. If you want to make self improvements for you, that's fine. You are more than welcome to do that. You can do your research and find what avenues you can afford that are the safest way for you to do that. But once you start trying to make self improvements to impress other people, you have a problem.
Rhea Gibson
Absolutely.
Dominic Tuni
Support for somebody.
Rhea Gibson
Yeah.
Temporary happiness.
Dominic Tuni
It's temporary happiness because it's just. It's just not the way to do it. Everybody, you're never going to please anybody. You're going to be. You're going to live a miserable life trying to spend your life please another people.
Rhea Gibson
Oh, my God. No, you nailed it. And. But that's the thing with social media. I. Especially the younger people. But. But nowadays, even, like I see girls in their 30s and 40s, like you said, they look at the celebrities with millions of dollars and they want to look like the celebrities, but you start losing your individuality. Like you just said, instead of. I believe in being the best version of ourselves. Like, when I wake up in the morning, I'm like, okay, I can only be the best, Catherine. You know, my body is never going to be perfect. Nothing is ever going to be exactly the way I want. I'm never going to be taller, whatever. But I try to be the best version of me for me. But there are so many women, like you just said, instead of being themselves, they try to copy and copy and copy. I think they lose their own identity. And that's where the problem start. And it's a rat race. Right. Because there's never gonna be, like, why would you want to be like, another Kardashian or another Chloe or whatever their names are? Like, you know, what's the point in that? Like you said, you're never going to be happy like that. You're always going to be frustrated. You know, it's. Yeah.
You're gonna keep making changes. Yeah, yeah. You have to keep changing yourself. And if you've even watched, you know, keeping up with the Kardashians, they have their own insecurities, too.
Oh, my God, everybody does.
Of all of them.
Yeah. You know, look, listen, I've talked to models. I. I'M gonna be doing an episode with models coming up because of the beauty industry. And same. We think that they're this perfect goddesses, but, you know, they're women just like us. Some days, of course, they feel incredible. Maybe they photograph super well. But, you know, there are other things that they don't love about themselves, and there are things that they love. Their parts. Right. They're parts that we love and parts we don't love. But I think it's about loving, you know, the. The whole. It's like learning how to. I. I really believe. And it sounds cheesy, but I think this. This journey of self love is the biggest lesson that. That we can all learn. You know, if you learn, if you get there, it. I'm not kidding. It took me my whole life to get here. I literally just learned, like, the past two years.
Dominic Tuni
Acting Kat.
Rhea Gibson
I can.
Dominic Tuni
I can identify with that.
Rhea Gibson
Yeah. And you girls are amazing. And I feel like this book was so raw. So it was right up my alley. When at it, I talked to my team and I'm like, these girls are so real, and they put so much of themselves in this book. I want to talk to them because I know it's not easy. I. Because I do it on the podcast. Like, I talk about my life and my journey and my problems, and I know it's not easy to open up, but.
Dominic Tuni
Right.
Rhea Gibson
It's very cathartic. Right. Once you open up, you're like, wow, okay. I feel like I took, like, pounds and pounds of weight off of my back once you put it out there. Right?
Dominic Tuni
Absolutely.
Rhea Gibson
And it's there now. It's out there. And that was, I think, another fear.
Dominic Tuni
Once we published it.
Rhea Gibson
Like, oh, my God, it's out there. And. But at the end of the day, our story, it is healing and we want to help someone else, and we know that it's so many people who can identify. Like you said, no matter what your walk of life is, no matter what your experiences are, you can identify with either the both of us or one of us or at least parts of.
Dominic Tuni
Our story, you know, so. Absolutely. Yeah.
Rhea Gibson
Because you talk about. Like I said, you talk a lot about, like, different men and different relationships and ups and downs. We've all been there. Then I think another thing that every single woman has done, even the skinniest, like. Like we were saying, even the supermodels is the yo yo diets, the crazy shit. No carb, no this, no dad, like. And of course, nothing works because nobody wants to be miserable forever.
Dominic Tuni
Sustainable.
Rhea Gibson
Yeah. It's not sustainable. I think only a lifestyle day you enjoy and works for you is sustainable. At least in my book. I'm a firm favor of that. But we've. When you read the book and you girl, you guys listening to the podcast, I'm, you know, 1 million percent, please get this book because it's so much fun. And then when you open the, at the end of the chapters, when you get your little journal, every single question you girls ask, everybody's gonna say, yes, I've been there. Have you ever been through a breakup? Yes.
Have you?
Has someone ever dated? Wish you would have not have dated? Yes. Like, so everybody relates. Have you conquered one of your biggest fears? Yeah. So, like, it's so relatable. It's so relatable because we've all been through this journey, you know, so it's, it's a fun read and it's an exercise in self love and self care. So it's really, really amazing.
Dominic Tuni
Thank you so much. We really appreciate that. We absolutely do. And you know, we do promote now people can purchase the books online. But listen, Kat, don't everybody know who we are from a can of paint?
Rhea Gibson
Okay, let's just be real.
Dominic Tuni
We are Dominique and Rhea from Cleveland, Ohio. We are nurse and social worker by day. Okay? That's what we do. That's our gig. But when people want to buy an actual hard copy book from us, they are going to get an inspirational bookmark and we will send them an ink pen because why are we gonna create a book with a built in journal and not give you a pen?
Rhea Gibson
I got the most beautiful package. Yes. You guys sent me an inspirational a note which is right here behind me, like on my mood board. I don't know if you can see it on camera. You send a pen, you send a beautiful T shirt, which I love. I was like in tears because I'm very emotional. Thank you. You girls wrote the sweetest message in the book. And I think it's all about women empowering women. I. I was talking about, you know, before I started the podcast, many years ago, I started an online clothing brand called Girly. Alamode is exclusively to empower women to feel good about themselves. Like, every single little piece. It's like cozy sweatshirts and hoodies and T shirts and things that fit every person on the planet. It's like everything we create, it's for. And the motto is every body is beautiful.
Dominic Tuni
Oh, I love that.
Rhea Gibson
Every product we create, we make a point. Like, is this gonna look good on any person that Tries it on. You know, I don't care how big you are, how tiny you are, how tall, I want every person that puts that on say, okay, this is cozy. This is adorable. You know, so that's why all inclusive. Exactly. Because I. I've been such a huge advocate for body positivity for so long. So I believe the universe united us to spread the word.
Dominic Tuni
I love that. K. Yes. That's what we are all about. We just want people to understand that we have been in, you know, the same shoes they may be in. We have, you know, different stories, but our struggles with weight have connected us. We are cantering besties. I'm June, she's July. We are the same, but different. But, you know, we are, you know, just here for people to understand that. Listen, if you feel like you're going through a tough time, tough times don't last long.
Rhea Gibson
That's true.
Dominic Tuni
You can, you know, get up, give life, the middle finger and let anybody you doubted, you know, I'm coming back harder and stronger. So don't think you're going to keep me down.
Rhea Gibson
Yes, baby. I love it.
At the end of the day, people need to choose themselves. Always bet on you and choose you 1 million percent.
Because once you start doing that, the universe chooses you. Like you said Dominique a little while back, people appreciate you, people respect you and treat you better. So I think everything starts with us, regardless of our size.
Absolutely. That's the thing, you know, economic status, any of those things. Be happy with who you are.
Yes. And I'm gonna say, Ria, Yes. I know you're social worker and fabulous nurse from Cleveland, Ohio, but you're also fabulous writers. You are professional book writers. You kick ass.
Dominic Tuni
Thank you.
Rhea Gibson
You really did. And it's an honor, honor, honor that, you know, you found me, that you sent me your gorgeous book and your care pack because I felt very loved. Thank you with all my heart. Congratulations. Can you please tell people how they get this book?
Yes.
Dominic Tuni
So they can actually, if they go to our website, www. It's just we have a link at the very top. They can get it through Amazon, Walmart, Barnesandnoble.com but if they want us to send them a hard copy of the book, where we will mail them the.
Rhea Gibson
Ink and the bookmark, she will.
Dominic Tuni
Stop playing games.
Rhea Gibson
We accept zill cash every, every form of page. And you can DM us and just let us know. And RIA100 will send you that book.
Dominic Tuni
Yes, everything. Absolutely. So you can send us a DM because our Instagram is ATV Underscore. Rhea Neek. Is that our. I guess we have so many things.
Rhea Gibson
I'll tell you what. I'm putting the link. I'm putting the link on this episode so everybody can find you. So the link is gonna be there so people can click and go, and you. And everything's gonna be there. You guys can DM me if you don't find. I'll hook you up. Because I. This is like, on. I'm not kidding. I read the gazillion books this year. This is like one top, top, top, top, top favorite on my list. Madeline Love. It's just bad. By the way. Fat. P H A T. It's just fat, right? I love. And the COVID is. Before I let you go, how'd you guys came up with this adorable cover? The scale. The cupcake.
So we partnered with our. With our publisher, and we kind of went through ideas, and I'm not sure who really said what about. I think Maria might have said, what about a cupcake or a cake? And then he might have said, all right, what about a scale? When he brought in his graphic designer.
Dominic Tuni
Yeah, we kind of just, you know, because the idea was like, it's just fat, baby. You know, we're talking about our challenges with weight, but, you know, we're cute. You know, we're gonna make it cute. Yeah. We wanted to just kind of draw in attention. And it's like, you know, I like the digital scale. Cause I think at first he had like that, you know, traditional, old school balancing scale.
Rhea Gibson
And then we chose fuchsia because we just love the color. We want people to see it. We want it to pop and draw in people. So I think we are colorful and we are.
Dominic Tuni
Yes. I love.
Rhea Gibson
Oh, my God. Yeah, same. I freaking love it. You girls did an absolutely incredible job. Congratulations. And by the way, you're both really beautiful. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your weight journey. I hope you're happy. I think at the end of the day, it's all about being healthy, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
We. If we have our health, we have everything. If we're not healthy, game over. That's what I tell women everywhere. When I was my skinniest, like, I told you, I almost died. So nowadays I'm like, fuck, I don't want to be that skin. Pardon my French. I'm like, I don't want to go that. That thin anymore. Because when I go that thin, I know, Like, I'm not. Well, I prefer to. I prefer to have a little meat on my bones and know that I'M super healthy, so I think that we got to find the medium like, like to be healthy and move and, and, and live and. And thrive. So. And you girls are beautiful, and you're intelligent and you're creative, and Congratulations. Thank you.
Dominic Tuni
And I'm gonna continue to tune in.
Rhea Gibson
Oh, thank you so much. Yes. Karen the loose. And it's just fat. Dominic. Dominic, Tony and Rhea Gibson, it was such an honor having you. Have a wonderful weekend. It's just fat. And I'll hook you up. I'll put the links here, and you guys be safe out there. Thank you, guys.
Kat
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Podcast Summary: "IT'S JUST PHAT BABY!" Featuring Dominique Toney & Ria Gibson on "Kat on the Loose Sex, Dating & Relationships"
Release Date: November 20, 2024
In this heartfelt and candid episode of "Kat on the Loose Sex, Dating & Relationships", host Kat Zammuto welcomes Dominique Toney and Ria Gibson, the dynamic duo behind the empowering book and journal "It's Just Fat Baby". The conversation delves deep into themes of weight loss, body acceptance, self-love, and self-care, offering listeners an intimate look into the authors' personal journeys and the transformative power of embracing oneself.
Kat begins by introducing her guests with enthusiasm, highlighting their intelligence and the impactful nature of their work.
Kat (00:00): "Dominique Toney and Ria Gibson are two adorable, super intelligent, amazing ladies and they wrote an incredible book and journal called It's Just Fat Baby about their journeys with weight loss, body acceptance, self-love, and self-care."
She emphasizes the book's dual purpose as both a narrative of their experiences and a practical journal for readers to engage in self-reflection.
Kat (00:26): "They are so raw and so real about their journey and how they got to the point where they're at today. I absolutely fell in love with their work..."
The conversation shifts to the motivation behind writing the book. Ria and Dominique discuss the challenges they faced growing up overweight and the impetus to share their stories as a means of healing and helping others.
Ria Gibson (07:54): "We've been friends since high school, and we realized how hard it was to be overweight kids. We decided to share our stories to help others not go through what we did."
Dominique credits Ria's passion for journaling as the foundation for integrating a reflective journal within their book.
Dominique Toney (05:35): "Dominique is really big on journaling. She is the mastermind behind putting the journal inside the book."
Dominique opens up about her personal experiences with bullying during childhood, highlighting the lasting scars that words can leave.
Dominique Toney (11:47): "Hurt people. I really went through bullying in my early childhood stages... I just tried not to be that person to make somebody feel bad because I was in those shoes."
Ria echoes these sentiments, sharing her own struggles with bullying related to her ethnicity and accent, and how it impacted her self-esteem.
Ria Gibson (29:07): "I was bullied because I'm Latin but don't look Latin. It made me feel inferior, but now I laugh it off because I know my worth."
The discussion transitions to the topic of emotional eating, a common struggle highlighted in their book. Both guests elaborate on how societal celebrations often center around food, exacerbating emotional eating habits.
Dominique Toney (19:54): "Food is the center of everything we do, whether it's a graduation party, baby shower, or wedding. It's how we celebrate, making it hard to manage emotional eating."
Ria adds that societal expectations, especially amplified by social media, create unrealistic standards that pressure individuals to conform rather than fostering self-acceptance.
Ria Gibson (32:54): "People compare themselves to the Kardashians. That is an unrealistic expectation."
Dominique candidly shares her decision to undergo gastric sleeve surgery after exhausting all other weight loss methods. She discusses the mental fortitude required to maintain the lifestyle changes post-surgery.
Dominique Toney (20:27): "I had the gastric sleeve surgery because I was tired of fighting the battle with myself. It's been working for me, but it requires constant effort and mental preparedness."
Ria underscores the importance of sustainable lifestyle changes over quick fixes, emphasizing that true health stems from long-term commitment rather than temporary solutions.
Ria Gibson (38:36): "It's not sustainable. Only a lifestyle you enjoy and it works for you is sustainable."
A significant portion of the episode centers on the paramount importance of self-love as the foundation for overcoming body image issues. Dominique and Ria discuss how loving oneself first leads to healthier relationships and personal fulfillment.
Ria Gibson (27:21): "You have to love yourself first. You can't expect another person to complete you or make you whole."
Dominique reinforces this by highlighting that self-love empowers individuals to demand respect and recognize their inherent worth.
Dominique Toney (28:55): "Once you start trying to make self-improvements to impress other people, you have a problem. You end up living a miserable life trying to please others."
The guests express their hope that their book serves as a healing tool for others facing similar struggles. They encourage listeners to engage with the book's journal section to foster self-reflection and personal growth.
Ria Gibson (38:01): "We've all been there. Our book is an exercise in self-love and self-care. It's a fun read that helps you reflect on your own journey."
Dominique provides information on where listeners can purchase the book, both online and directly, emphasizing their commitment to empowering as many individuals as possible.
Dominique Toney (43:12): "You can get the book through Amazon, Walmart, Barnes & Noble, or contact us directly via our website or Instagram."
As the episode concludes, both Dominique and Ria leave listeners with a powerful message about the importance of choosing oneself and the transformative journey of self-acceptance.
Ria Gibson (42:10): "People need to choose themselves. Always bet on you and choose you 100%."
Dominique adds a note of resilience, encouraging others to persevere through tough times and emerge stronger.
Dominique Toney (41:59): "Support somebody. Tough times don't last long. You can come back harder and stronger."
"IT'S JUST PHAT BABY!" is a compelling episode that offers a raw and honest exploration of weight loss, body image, and the journey to self-love. Dominique Toney and Ria Gibson's stories serve as a beacon of hope and empowerment for anyone grappling with similar challenges, reinforcing that self-acceptance is the cornerstone of true well-being.
For those inspired by this episode, "It's Just Fat Baby" is available for purchase on major platforms like Amazon, Walmart, and Barnes & Noble, or directly through Dominique and Ria's social media channels.
Notable Quotes:
Dominique Toney (11:47): "Hurt people."
Ria Gibson (07:54): "We've been friends since high school, and we realized how hard it was to be overweight kids."
Dominique Toney (27:23): "That part, yes."
Ria Gibson (32:54): "People compare themselves to the Kardashians. That is an unrealistic expectation."
Dominique Toney (41:59): "Support somebody. Tough times don't last long."
Note: This summary excludes promotional segments and focuses solely on the substantive content of the conversation between Kat, Dominique, and Ria.