C (3:44)

It is my pleasure to be here. I'm so excited to talk to you and it's an honor to be on your show.

A (3:50)

It's an honor to have you. I'm a huge fan of your work and I love when I see women kicking ass, especially in fields where they are not, quote unquote, expected to be at. So let's talk about that. First and foremost, you are a urologist, which I'm sure most people think like it should be a man, a guy doctor. Right. How did you end up doing that?

C (4:17)

Absolutely. Definitely in a man field. I, I'm not gonna try to, I'm not gonna bore you too much, but basically I found out what urology was when I first started medical school. And when I first started medical school, I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do. I found out what a urologist was. In fact, somebody told me urology and I had to google it. And when I googled it, I saw men and I saw like older white men, you know, being like for men by men. And so I immediately cropped it off my list. I thought, okay, well, what is a black woman, a black girl like me going to do in this type of field? Didn't think about it at all. And it wasn't until a whole year later, about a year and a half later, and we were getting prepared to be given a lecture by a urologist in our second year class and I was actually getting my backpack and stuff and I was ready to go because, I mean, it was already cropped off my list I was going to use, I was going to skip out on this lecture and go like get a drink or something or study early. And I was getting, as I was getting my stuff in my backpack ready to go. I remember this moment. Today I'll get my stuff ready and in what lecture? And it's a black woman and it's theologist. And she gets introduced. This is Dr. Westney, Urology, an interim chair of the department here at the University of Texas. And I was like, who is this urologist and why does she look like me? And I didn't know they made them like this. And I'm suddenly was staring at this badass woman and my like I immediately thought she was a badass because she was again in this, that was dominated by men and she was a double minority being black, being a woman. And I immediately backed my butt back down because I was a not going to be the only black person leaving the class with this black lecturer. But also because I immediately was drawn to her and I wanted to know everything about why she became a urologist. And that is where the story begins. And that is how I became this urologist you see here really was representation, that kind of.

A (6:30)

Congratulations. Now I am not a doctor, I'm not an expert, but I've been doing Cat on the Loose for four years now. And one question that I have that really I don't understand that it blows my mind is why do you think or maybe you disagree with me. I feel there is still so much stigma. Like when we try to talk about sex, when we try to talk about sexual health, when we try to talk openly about the subjects about penis because these things are so important to our overall well being. It's still such taboo. People cringe, they are embarrassed, they're embarrassed of seeking help. At least that's my perspective from my work. Do you feel that as well?

C (7:15)

People don't even say the word. And part of it, it becomes. We don't know the words. We are not taught this. We aren't taught the proper anatomic parts. But another part of it is there is a like dirtiness to penis vagina. And some of it comes from historically attaching shame to some of these things. Like in medicine there's a nerve called the pudendal nerve. And actually in Latin it means shame. And so from the beginning of like time, if you will, shame was associated with our genitalia, you know what I'm saying?

A (7:56)

Isn't that also.

C (7:58)

Oh my God, it's weird, it's awful. It's weird. It's like. And think about it, it is actually weird. Why is this part of our body attached to shame? It has a purpose. Yes, it has a purpose. You know what I'm saying?

A (8:14)

So how do you dismissify that as a doctor? Because I know a lot of people listen to the podcast, and I have a big male audience and I have male friends that they want to seek help, but they're embarrassed. They're ashamed, like you just said. So anybody out there listening, whatever their issue is, as a doctor, what is your message to this audience that never saw urologist before or is embarrassed to seek help? Whatever issues they're having, like your show says, with the area down there.

C (8:47)

Okay, number one, you are not alone. I guarantee you what you are dealing with is actually far more common than you probably think it is. Now, common doesn't make it normal. That's the second message is let's not normalize things just because they're common. Just because you're older doesn't mean you have to live with a leaky bladder and pads. Just because you're older doesn't mean you have to live. And no one should have to live with painful sex or difficulty, you know, engaging in sex if that's what they want to do. So let's normalize these things in the fact that. Let's normalize the conversation, but let's not make it like an exception. Accept it as normal and that there is help. There's a lot of lack of information about what we can do to help some of these things. And quality of life is life. Just because we're not curing cancer, necessarily, and we do cure cancer, but just because a lot of the things we do are quality of life, just because it's not curing doesn't mean we're not impacting life in a significant way. It's every day we're making your quality of life better.

A (10:00)

Oh, my God. Yeah, you said so. Super important things, because I personally think having a healthy sex life is a huge part of overall health. Aging, well, having energy. I'm a big advocate for that. And I keep pounding and pounding and pounding on the podcast that it's not a shameful thing for us to talk about sex, especially men, because I know for guys it's like, such a big deal. So I want to ask you. I think it's one of the top issues that. That a lot of men have, right? Erectile dysfunction, like, not being able to get it out. And so the number one question the guys send me is A lot. Many times when they do go to the doctor, the first thing the doctor does is like, okay, they write a prescription for whatever, Viagra, any, any similar pill. And a lot of these guys say, but I don't want to take it because it has side effects, it gives me a headache, I don't feel well, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they feel frustrated because they think that this is the only solution to it. So the question they send me that I'm not equipped to answer, and I'm sure you are, is, are there other options if they see a doctor such as yourself, other than just giving them a prescription?

C (11:20)

What actually let me back up and say, really, a good urologist or good specialist thinking about the function isn't just getting your prescription in five minutes really a good physician is taking a health inventory. Do you smoke? Do you see a doctor at once a year? Do you exercise? How's your blood pressure? Do what's your cholesterol? What is your desire? Do you like the person you have, like all of these things? Because I am screening for other medical problems that could be caused that could be a major factor for the erectile dysfunction. Right. I'm also thinking about the context that sex is having, because maybe it's psychogenic erectile dysfunction. Maybe the situation isn't conducive to you getting a healthy erection. Maybe you have relationship issues, maybe you have body image issues. Men can have body image issues. Maybe you have maybe a performance anxiety, maybe you're depressed. These are all things that lead you. A good specialist is going to be an inventory. So there's that. And then also. Absolutely, there are multiple options for erectile dysfunction. Pills are certainly not the only. They may be the most well known and the most utilized, but there is a plethora of things in our toolbox. And now with erectile dysfunction, the exciting part is a lot of the stuff that we have known and tried and true are treatment options where you're doing something to get an artificial blood induced direction, where take this pill, do this pump, give this injection. But now we're looking more at restorative options. Meaning what can we do to get the penis to have a natural. Stimulate its own natural blood flow without having to take something when you want to have sex.

A (13:01)

So there are options. That's the great news. So I think the number one thing is if you are having this issue, don't stop having sex and think like, oh, my sex life is over. She's shaking her head. No, I agree. Go see a wonderful doctor such as Dr. Family.

C (13:22)

You know what? Like, we are not dead. I see and I think a lot of people, well, I'm old, I'm middle aged, I'm, you know, and I see people with somebody like 40s and 50s, like, well, I'm getting old. I'm like, dude, you got 40 years to live. You gonna live the rest? Select without an important part of human, you know, behavior if you want to and it doesn't. If it truly does not matter to you at all. Kudos. And that should not be shamed either. But by and large, the average person wants that.

B (13:55)

Yes.

C (13:55)

And they shouldn't hang that up even like 78 year olds, 80 plus year olds.

A (14:00)

I saw a man who was 90.

C (14:02)

Who was like, I have a reptile dysfunction. And I think he was used to other doctors dismissing it, like, why do you care? And I'm like, yeah, you're not dead, you know, I know.

A (14:12)

So I love that you're saying that because I agree. When I hear a 50 something year old guy or early 60s frustrated telling me that's it, you know, it's too complicated. I'm like, come on, you know, go seek help. Don't stop having sex. Maybe they're not gonna have the same stamina as when they were 20. But you're right, you know, guys should be able to do it way into their 70s. Which leads me to my next question, which is very controversial, at least here in California. I don't know if it's the same where you are, because the testosterone treatment here, a lot of. And of course it has all this insurance crap involved. I don't want to get into that. But a lot of doctors, yeah, you go to a clinic that, you know, there are these fancy clinics that specialize in testosterone. You show up, they give you testosterone. But if you go to your doctor, many doctors here in California, they tell you, no, I'm against causes too many problems, medical issues, I'm not going to give it to you. So believe it or not, it's a big deal here in California. So a lot of guys take it, they go to the clinics and they pay a lot of money. And a lot of guys are very afraid of trying it because of what they hear from their doctors. What is your opinion when it comes to testosterone treatment?

C (15:34)

Has been visualized almost a century. Okay. And believe it or not, in men, we know a lot of stuff about testosterone treatment. I don't know exactly where all of the kind of fear came from. There have been more recently really good quality studies that have shown Testosterone to be by and large shape state. Now we're talking about testosterone replacement therapy that's done to get you in a normal physiologic range. Meaning we're not talking about juicing up and getting and performance enhancing type of levels. Okay, that's not even like, you know, not the level we're talking about. We're talking about more physiological. We also know that untreated low testosterone in men is associated with increased risk of depression and actually decreased life expectancy. We believe the same things are also true in women. Okay. We know that testosterone we talked about like misconception. So what misconception? Testosterone is innately harmful. Done correctly, testosterone is actually probably more beneficial for your long term health. Okay. When it's appropriately dosed to the appropriate patient and monitor. Okay.

A (16:58)

And you're saying that for men and women.

C (17:01)

Men and women. Men and women.

A (17:03)

Amazing.

C (17:04)

Yeah. Men and women, these clinics, they will easily give you testosterone. Whether they monitor it well is a big fat question mark. Now the other thing I was going to say that's another conception is that testosterone is ferment. It's a male hormone. Male hormone, testosterone, female hormone, estradiol. We have it all like it's way more complicated than that. In fact, women make more testosterone than estrogen in our, in our body, our bodies naturally have more testosterone than estrogen. Okay. Yes. Testosterone is extremely important. We know for, for both men and women, for brain function, bone function, for muscle function, and it's the key hormone for sexual desire. Okay. Sexual desire. And so it can be safely done. Now it's not FDA approved for women. It is FDA approved for men, not FDA approved for women. I foresee that in the future it will become FDA approved for women. There will be an FDA approved product, but for now it's off label, which doesn't make it necessarily harmful. Again, when dosed appropriately and monitored correctly.

A (18:15)

So I think the first step and probably the most important is to seek help with someone that you really, really trust. Correct?

C (18:23)

Correct. Correct. Yeah. I mean a good, a good way to know is that somebody who's like trustworthy and Susie, they'll be able to explain the pros and cons to you. You know what I'm saying? They won't get defensive at your question. They will be able to back up things with quality evidence based studies. If you, you know, it's necessary. They are trying to. They're monitoring you. If you're going to somebody that's never monitoring you, that may, that's a red flag. You see what I'm saying, and so. And they present you with different options. You know, it's not a one size fits all type of plug, plug and play.

A (19:09)

Right. But all very important information. Now, before I let you go, let's talk about the show on TLC for a minute. Dr. Down there. Down below. Right. Dr. Below.

C (19:21)

Yeah.

A (19:21)

It's such a cute show. How did it. Tell us how you ended up there.

C (19:27)

Thank you, thank you. I'm really proud of the. The one episode they. I'll tell you about one later. But yeah, so that was organic Kat. Like, totally doing my thing. And I will say I started my social media presence, if you will, because no one knows what we do. Like, patients don't know what we do. Other doctors, our colleagues that are not in urology, don't know what we do. So, like, why don't I just tell people what we do? I love what I do. And I wanted to destigmatize the things that we did. But I also said on my social media because as a black woman, I realized the power of that. I talked to you about my story, how I became a urologist. And I was like, to whom much is given, much is required. And so I'm just doing my thing. And I do my thing on social media by being myself. Like, that's what is best, how I work. And I call myself your favorite urologist because I speak to the people. I'll speak their language. I'm not afraid to say dick. I'm not afraid to say. I guess I am afraid.

A (20:32)

You can say anything you want to.

C (20:35)

I'm not afraid to make myself the butt of the jokes. And in a way to help not joke about a patient, but to bring levity to things that. So we can talk about them and not feel shame. And so a talent agent found me in my Instagram and he. I think he'd make a great TV show, Doctor. And I thought it was a scam. And I was like, do you know what I do all day? Like, I look at penises and vaginas. Like, how is this gonna be on tv? Oh, don't worry, we'll figure it out. We can blur. Selective blur. And then it was a bunch of interviews on Zoom. Because it was a pandemic. It was around the pandemic. It was a bunch of, like, back and forth I wouldn't hear for months. And then it's out of nowhere like, oh, okay, we want to film this and that. It was a total of almost two year process between that first introduction DM that I thought was A scam to, hey, this is the pilot that's airing. And what you saw that aired back last year was such a great production. I was watching it for the first time with everybody else, Eric, and I thought they did a really freaking good job of displaying my true personality and showing how I'm both compassionate but also relatable and how these pages that you saw on that show are real patient. These are not make believe things that we're going through are real. The emotions that they displayed are 100% real.

A (22:02)

I love. And you know what? I think it's one of the most important shows that should be on tv, like you said, because it's one of my dreams that we, me as a communicator and you as a doctor that we can dismissify. Like you said, this subject, make it mainstream, make people talk about it, seek help. Because it's just absurd that everybody's like so ashamed. Like you said, like it's something dirty. And it's not something dirty. It's something amazing and healthy and a beautiful part of our lives. And I have to say, you do an amazing job on your social media. I'm having so she has the cutest face now. I'm having so much fun because, yeah, you are so organic. You're so natural and I'm like you. I think it's the only way to do it is be ourselves. And I learn a lot from your videos. So if you guys are listening, go check out her Instagram because you put a lot of important content but in a way that people like me, people who are not doctors, can really understand and educate ourselves. So you're doing an amazing job.

C (23:07)

I like teasing and like blessing and smiling. Thank you. Thank you. It is a labor of love. I love what I do. Everything I do, all my content is like from me directly. Everybody's like me, like, I do it all and I do that and I still take care of faith in full time. So I thank you. It is very encouraging to always hear when somebody feels like what I'm doing speaks to them, help them feel, you know, more comfortable speaking about their body, hear about what they're going through and just feels empowering that like, that is the biggest, I think, thing I want to leave behind is to empower individuals like you said, to not feel the shame and not feel this loneliness about what they're going through.

A (24:02)

I love that. Thank you so much. I really hope they bring this show back over and over and over. And also, guys, if you're listening, try to find it on TLC. I'm not sure where. Dr. Down below and down below. Dr. Down below. I love the name. And your insta is Dr. Milhouse. And you guys should check out her videos because they're very educational, super cute. Seek help if, if, if they are in your area, of course you are amazing. But if not, right, find somebody that you trust. Thank you so much. Such a huge honor having you here, doctor.

C (24:38)

Thank you guys. I want to tell you listeners, I'm also on YouTube. You can just search Dr. Milhouse and no help is with one L, M, I, L, H, W, F, E. If you just google your favorite urologist, you'll get it all.

A (24:48)

And I'm putting your views, I'm putting your links. Yeah. So for you guys to find out, the links are on this episode and I'm putting them on the cat on the loose.com website because it's also a website for resources. So you can go there, check it out, find her, send questions, participate in this discussion. Thank you, doctor. You're amazing and I know how busy you are. Very grateful, very honored that you're doing. Guys, I never thought I would say this, but this Black Friday, instead of buying more stuff I don't need, I decided to invest in my sex life instead. We all know Black Friday is about deals, but what would you rather do? Spend hundreds of dollars in stuff you don't need or 69 bucks on improving your sex life? Yes. @beducated.com Real Talk no one ever really teaches us how to be amazing in bed. We're just supposed to figure it out somehow, right? Well, that's exactly what I thought until I found Badger educated. I started exploring their courses because I wanted to understand not just pleasure, but connection. And it completely changed how I see intimacy. I learned simple, real techniques that make you more confident, more in tune with your partner, and honestly more empowered in your own body. Be educated is a safe space for all. And that's my favorite part. No matter relationship status, sexual orientation or gender. So if you're ready to level up your love and safety sex life solo or with a partner, go to beducate me cat 69. That's my code. Cat K a T69 to get 65 off the yearly pass. That's their biggest discount of the year and it's completely risk free. 14 day money back guarantee. So go to beducate me cat 69 and give yourself a gift that will last going count on the list. William, welcome to Canada. It's such an honor to have you here.

B (26:38)

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

A (26:40)

Can I call you Bill?

B (26:41)

Yes, please. All my friends call me Bill.

A (26:43)

Oh, amazing. I love that. So I have so many questions to ask you because the subject of biohacking has been in the news a lot lately since you founded this fantastic biohacking clinic. Before we focus on male health and sexual wellness, can you explain to the people listening, in a nutshell, for those who don't really understand what it is and what that means, what is biohacking and how does a biohacking clinic can help someone?

B (27:13)

In a nutshell, biohacking is used to make people feel better, perform better, and look better, but feel better and perform better are the two primary components of, in my opinion, bio hygiene. And everything that we do in a biohacking clinic really relates to reducing inflammation, increasing mitochondrial activity, which produces more ATP for your body to make your body function better, and as I said before, live longer. So we're using modalities that you can't get at a typical gym or that you can't do at your home to actually increase your longevity.

A (27:47)

I love that. I actually started just a few months ago trying to biohack my life. I'm really into wellness. I'm really. The more I age, the more I want to, you know, just age well and live longer, a healthier lifestyle. And I think it's fascinating and it is just a really, really, really broad spectrum. So today I want to focus specifically on male wellness and sexual health because I know your clinic treats a lot of that, correct?

B (28:20)

Exactly. We do. We have a really huge male clientele, especially for the male enhancement side. And then our. Our biohacking is about 50. 50.

A (28:29)

Okay, that's amazing. So I know to a lot of people it's still taboo. Like, I know that because I get a lot of messages from men from all over the world. They have issues in this area. They have issues in the sexual area at the age, maybe they can't perform well or their partners are complaining, whatever it is, but they're embarrassed when it comes to seeking help. So if anybody out there is listening, that is not your patient yet or never heard of a clinic that can help them, what would be the first step or maybe a word of encouragement that you would tell someone that never seeked help before?

B (29:12)

Well, first of all, everyone that's on my team that answers questions about male enhancement or penile breath enhancement, they're all guys, and they've all had the procedure. So you're not speaking to someone who's not of your same sex. And you're not speaking to someone who has just heard about the procedure or they've been trained on how to speak about the procedure, but they've actually had the procedure. And so that's what really makes Balafil special, is that if you wanted to call another provider for panel granted asthma, you're most likely going to call the clinic and you're most likely going to get a female on the phone. It's not always easy for a man to ask these initial questions to a female, and most likely that person's not going to be as well trained to answer the questions because they have to answer questions on a lot of different procedures. And so they can't really specialize in answering questions about girth enhancement. And our people that answer the questions do specialize, and they only answer questions about girth enhancement day in and day out. And so the easiest way to get one of these guys on the phone and. Or actually, I'm sorry, the easiest way to get. The easiest way to communicate with one of these guys is via text because we have found that people are much more open to having a texting conversation than they are actually having a phone conversation in the very beginning. So if you go to our website and I know that you don't mind if I plug it.

A (30:36)

No, no. It's going to be on the episode, actually, because we are here to learn together. And this is really a platform form. I encourage people. Yeah. To seek help and go for it. So. Yeah. Tell us your website.

B (30:49)

Yeah, so if you go to our website, which is Foulfill P-H-A-L-L-O-F-I-L-L.com, you're going to immediately see a way to text us. You can send a direct text message, and generally within just a few minutes, you're going to get a response from one of our live agents. We don't have any. Any AI or anything like that. It's all going to be from a person. There is a text message that is an automatic text message that says, thank you for contacting us. We'll be with you shortly. But then whenever someone does come on as a live person that has had the procedure.

A (31:24)

Okay, but let's rewind the story a little bit because a lot of most people don't know what fellowfield is before we get to fellowship, like I said, because I even have friends, Okay. I have a lot of male friends. They feel they want to have better sex or they feel they want to perform better in bed, or they feel I cannot get an erection. Therefore my sex life is over. These are usually the top complaints that I hear from men out there. But they don't know. They don't know the solution, or they're frustrated or they go to the doctor and the doctor is like, here, take Viagra and go home. And they're like, I don't want to. And a lot of guys actually get sick if they take Viagra. They don't feel well. So they don't know that there are other solutions right now.

B (32:13)

There are many solutions here.

A (32:14)

Exactly. So this is what I want to start the story from the beginning for the people that don't know that you exist and the people that don't even know what Fellow Fuel is. So they call your clinic and they say, hi, I don't even know if fellow feels the solution for me. What is it? Because not everybody's a candidate. So is every guy a candidate for male girth enhancement? How does it work? How do you know who is a good candidate for that or not?

B (32:42)

Generally there are no bad candidates for the palatial girth enhancement. The only people who we would turn away would be someone who had a bleeding disorder or they were taking blood thinners, or they had some reconstructive surgery as a child or as an adult, or they've had to have reconstruction to that urethra for an injury or something like that. But generally we don't have to turn down clients who want to make their penises larger. It's. It's pretty easy for most people. So that's, that's not usually a concern. Whenever someone begins to, to communicate with us or they text with us, most people are going to be a candidate for Thalafil. Some are better candidates than others, but we can generally work with anyone.

A (33:25)

So is this a solution for those guys that cannot get an erection or keep an erection, you know, longer?

B (33:33)

It's not. So this is an esthetic procedure that's made to increase the girth of the penis to make the man feel better about himself with boost of self confidence or quote, unquote, big dick energy. I hope it's okay that I said that on.

A (33:49)

It's 1 million percent okay. Yes.

B (33:53)

So we like the energy that men exude whenever they all of a sudden perceive themselves better in the mirror in the mornings. It changes their day. It changes their outlook on life. Their relationships are better not only with their partners, but just with their friends because they have a better self confidence. They get promotions at work, they invent new products, they open up new companies. So Many things can happen when a man perceives himself different in the morning. So but that foul fill is just for girth enhancement and it's not for length enhancement. It does look like from our photographs on our website, that the penis is longer, it's actually just heavier and so it's hanging better because of the weight. And the dermal filler can't really shrink, so it's kind of building scaffolding, if you will, in the penis. But the erect length does not change just the girth, but it does make you more of a shower rather than a grower. So when it comes to erectile dysfunction, our performance, we can use some biohacking techniques to be able to increase the performance of sexual medicine. So we have a few different things we can choose from. One is stem cells are exosomes that can be directly, directly into the corporate of the penis. That will increase blood flow and help heal and rejuvenate the tissue. That's a great way of rejuvenating for erectile dysfunction or for performance. And oftentimes you might have heard of something called the P shot, which is platelet rich plasma that's injected into the corpora. But this is a technique that uses stem cells or exosomes that come from a newborn baby. And so the growth factors are more potent and what we can get from an adult and then we have extra corporeal shockwave therapy, which is basically sound. And it penetrates through the penis and it can loosen up plaque and can allow better blood flow. And I tell people it's sort of like having thunder and when it hits your windows, it makes the windows vibrate. The sound can cause movement. And so we can actually free up some blood flow in the penis by using this acoustic sound therapy. And then the third way that I think is fantastic because it does many things to the rest of your body, is hyperbaric oxygen therapy. So you're putting in a hyperbaric chamber and you're breathing 95 to 100% oxygen. And the pressure pushes this oxygen to all of your hypoxic tissues, such as your penis or your brain. And it can even help you have better, better hair growth. Jay Leno used the hyperbaric oxygen therapy whenever he had the face burn from his car accident. So it's empty and cleared for soft tissue wounds and for wound healing, diabetic wounds. But it's a, it's a great procedure. So those three combination is a great way to do correction of erectile dysfunction without taking oral medications.

A (36:54)

I love that and I Think that's amazing. And so two questions. The first one is, a lot of men, when they hear all of that, they're like, oh my God, it's probably hurts. I don't want to do it. So the first question is, does it hurt? And the second question is they say, oh, I'm going to do all of that. And it costs so much money and does it really, really work? Or how many times do I have to do it? Is it something that they have to do constantly? Is it long term or it's just a few treatments?

B (37:27)

Well, as far as any type of procedure, that's for reversing aging or for rejuvenation generally, we do a series of treatments. So if it's acoustic sound therapy, maybe we do six. And then every 12 to 18 months, you may need to come back and do six more because we're not stopping your body from aging. We're just slowly making changes to reverse aging or longevity. But you're going to continue to age. So we're going to have to continuously do some type of maintenance for these type of procedures so it's not painful. Acoustic sound therapy really feels like one of those bat massages that vibrates really fast, but it's not a vibration instance, it's sound therapy, but it feels a lot like a back massager. So no one's going to have any issues with pain from acoustic sound therapy. The exosomes injection, we stick you with a needle into the corpora of your penis four or five times. But we put a topical numbing cream on. And generally people talk to me right through it about whatever's going on with their lives. And so they're not clinching the table. It's not something somebody should dread.

A (38:37)

Let's be honest, most men are very afraid of needles. Especially you're talking about needles near their penis. They don't want to hear about it.

B (38:47)

Well, you know, when I'm doing falafel, which is my girth enhancement procedure, generally I ask men when they get finished with the procedure on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being the easiest most pain free experience and 10 being the most painful that they can imagine, I generally get a two.

C (39:03)

Oh, wow.

B (39:03)

And that's what the girth enhancement. Because we use a lot of cane and we just, we have a great technique that's very easy for the patient. The exosomes injection is actually even easier. So it's not something that they should dread. And then the hyperbaric oxygen therapy session is very relaxing. There's, you know, that's my favorite place to take a nap. So those.

A (39:25)

That sounds like it's something good for women as well, right?

B (39:28)

Oh, gosh, yeah. We stay booked. We have surgeons, cinders, women who have just had facelifts and they've had breast implant surgery because it's so good for the scars, it's so good for reducing swelling, but just ability to make the body produce more ATP to reduce inflammation, to push oxygen through the body, to get it to all of your organs and your brain and all of your tissues. Anyone, male or female, can do this procedure. And we have about a 50, 50 split of men and women that are doing hyperbaric oxygen therapy. But it's something that can be specifically used for men for helping them have better blood flow in the penis. But it's also going to help many other aspects of their health.

A (40:16)

I love that because you know what? I see so many guys and I've, I did episodes about that in the past, nowadays in their like late 40s, I mean, meaning they're not old, right? In their early 50s and they're like, oh my God, you know, I can't get it up. My sex life is dwindling. I, you know, I don't have the same performance that I did before. And I'm like, you need to seek help because sex is healthy. You should be having great, amazing sex. And then they complain because they go to their usual doctor and nine out of ten doctors they go and they write a prescription of Viagra or similar. You know, they're like, here, take the pill. Like I was saying in the beginning. And a lot of guys don't feel well when they take Viagra. They literally, I don't know, some guys say their head burn, they have headaches, some guys have palpitation. I had a, an ex boyfriend that literally didn't want to have sex because yeah, he started have like his head started burning, burning, burning, burning. Like he felt so sick that then of course it wasn't worth having sex. So it's amazing that you're putting this natural biohacking ideas out there because you know, it's so much better to go the, the natural route. And I think everybody deserves to, to be able to have an amazing sex life. And it's so important to talk about is. And very few people do, you know, it's still such taboo for men. And I'm happy to, to when I meet people like you and when I see clinics like yours because I know you have a lot of clients, but I also know there is thousands and Thousands of guys out there that don't know where to go for help and then they stay home and their relationship suffers and like you were saying, their self esteem. So because they don't know where to go for help. So here it is, guys. There are like many, many options out there and it's definitely a great idea to seek help, right, Bill?

B (42:15)

Great point, great point. I'm so glad that you said that because I think I feel the same way. I think that everybody, man or woman, deserves to have the best sex life until the absolute last moment of their lives. I think it's just, it's very, it's a very important part of my life and I don't ever want to see it dwindle. And at age 40, 40% of men are already experiencing erectile dysfunction. And so you can't really wait or you shouldn't wait until you experience problems. I believe that you should start doing some healthy things for your penis in your studies before you begin to see erectile dysfunction. There are things that we can do to keep it healthy. So we should ignore the penis, I think as much as we do.

A (42:59)

Yeah, should be. We shouldn't be embarrassed to talk about it. This is what I really try to do with my audience. We need to normalize this conversations because we are in a culture when we talk about having healthy sexual lives, when we talk about penis, when we talk about vagina, these are supernatural and the healthiest things we could possibly be doing for our, our lives. And we are labeled as perverts or doing something wrong when it's the exact opposite. Right? We should be having these conversations more and more and more.

B (43:34)

I really, I'm so glad that you, people like you and yourself are opening the door to have these conversations because I see things when men come in to me for birth enhancement. And so I'm going to give you a couple of examples. If I sit down to do a consultation with, with, with a man, oftentimes the very first thing that he says is, I've never had any complaints. And so it's almost as if society looks down upon men who need help with erections or with size. But yet women in the sit down almost with their pastor at the dining room table and talk about breast enhancement or breast enlargement and talk about what surgeon is the best to use. But men can't have these conversations. It's almost like it demasculizes a man or they lose their virility if they all of a sudden need to have help. But we all are going to have to have help. And most men want to have a larger sized penis. Even if they have a normal, already slightly larger than normal sized penis, they still would like to have a larger penis. And sometimes it's really necessary. It's not just about aesthetics, but sometimes it's necessary. After their wife has maybe had two or three vaginal births, things change. And as you said, we all deserve to have good sex. But in the walls of the vagina are not touching the penis. Neither one of them are having a great sex life. And I've had so many men tell us exactly what this has done to make them reconnect with their spouses or partners because they went for years after childbirth and did not enjoy sex. And now all of a sudden, after 20 to 25 years of marriage, they're having the best sex of their lives.

A (45:23)

You know, this is such a good point, even if it's just for vanity, because like you said, women, if we have small boobs, we're like, oh, I'm gonna get a bigger boob or I'm gonna do my hair, I'm gonna do extensions, I'm gonna do my makeup. You know, you do whatever the hell it is. And I'm a huge advocate for that, by the way, because I always say the world sees us from the outside in. And I think whatever in the world it is that you have to do to make yourself feel great, like you were saying, for men, I believe that the dick, I always say that is like a trophy. Guys feel amazing when their dick works well. Or like you said, when it's big and powerful. And I know when they're not having great sex or when the dick can function properly, messes with their self esteem. I know that in, in 99.9 of men. And so, yeah, like you said, even if it's, even if it works amazingly well, if they want to have a bigger girth, like you said, or if there is a procedure that they can do, who are we to judge? Why not? Since women, we are always seeking new ways to make ourselves feel better about our images. It's just something that we don't talk about.

B (46:39)

I'm going to steal from you what you just said about a man's trophy. Because I've never had it presented to me that way. And I love what you just said about it. Their trophy, because it really is their trophy. And, and speaking of your trophy, like, it's crazy to me that people will go and have these idle, proven girth enhancement procedures, you know, by providers in the US that are doing things that are shady under the table with silicone implants or injecting liquid silicone into the body, or whether they travel down to Mexico and they do something that's also just as shady or under the table. But you only have one penis. And you should take care of that penis because it's. To a man is one of the most important things in his life.

A (47:22)

Yes. And to the women. And to the women or the men in your life, whoever you choose to sleep with as well, to your partner. So, yeah, you should take care of it for you, and you should take care of it for your partner. And I'm all for it. So when I heard about you and I heard about your clinic, I'm going to say the name of your clinic, by the way. It's called Advanced your. You and you do a lot of amazing biohacking procedures, which I'm really into. And the procedure, again, guys, it's follow fill for girth enhancement. If anybody wants to know more. How long does it last?

B (48:00)

So we tell patients that it will last about three to four years, but we think that they're going to get more longevity out of it. The most we've seen someone lose over the course of 12 months has been about a quarter of an inch. And most men don't even lose that.

A (48:13)

Amazing.

B (48:14)

But one treatment increases the girth by one quarter of an inch. So if you do one treatment every 12 months, you will maintain that quarter of an inch that you may lose over the course of 12 months. So, you know, you do the procedure. Do you do the series of treatments? It's usually three to four, sometimes five sessions, depending on how girthy you want to be. And then one treatment every 12 months will for sure maintain it. And if you just never did anything else again, probably three to four years, I love it.

A (48:46)

And for you guys out there listening, like you said, there is a. You're off. Through your website, they can get a text if they don't feel comfortable talking to someone on the phone, correct?

B (48:56)

That's correct.

A (48:57)

And you guys are major experts in the field. There are a lot of options, like you said, if anybody doesn't want to take Viagra, which I know a lot of people don't want to take. Take. So there is no reason to stay home living a sexless life.

B (49:11)

I agree. There's many things to try before you go down the road of medication. And, you know, the doctors that you go see, I mean, they have so much on them. They get. They get to see you for five to Seven minutes.

A (49:23)

Yeah.

B (49:24)

And so they don't get to put their thinking hat on and try and figure out what's the best thing to do. And try. They just know that this. I've got this medication. I can call this in. And then this will sometimes make sex better, but it also has lots of side effects, such as the blurred vision and the headaches. The headaches and the blurred vision is what got me. I tried it before and I just can't take it because of my head is pounding and I don't want to have sex after I've taken it.

A (49:50)

Yeah.

B (49:50)

So there's definitely other things to explore.

A (49:53)

Yeah. I'm definitely. I don't like taking medication myself for many reasons. And I always try whatever I feel I try to. Like I said, I try to biohack my life. I always try to find natural remedies and usually always works better. For sure. I am so happy that we connected. Thank you so much for being on the show. It's a huge honor. And thank you for helping so many men having amazing, healthy sexual lives because it's super important.

B (50:23)

Thank you. I love doing it, and it's my favorite thing I've ever done in my life. I own med spots for 20 years. And the feeling that you have when someone tells you that you have saved their marriage and their sex life is so much better than someone telling you how much better they look and they're stealthy with their new lips being plumped up. So I really, really love my job.

A (50:46)

And I can see it. I think we have to do what we love. Right. And with passion, and that's how we get results. Tell everybody again how they find you before I let you go. Please blow.

B (50:54)

You can find the website again@fallowfill.com that's spelled P-H-A-L-L-O-F-I-L-L.com or my biohacking website is advanced a d v a n c e d hyphen u y o u dot com. And I'd love to help you out at either site.

C (51:16)

Yeah.

A (51:16)

And we're putting the links here on this episode, if you guys are listening. And also the links are on the katonthelos.com website. Go get help. Don't be ashamed. Have amazing sex lives and be happy and healthy out there. Thank you so much for being with us. Bill was a huge honor, and I'll see you guys again very soon.