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Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.
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Zoey, this thing weighs a ton. Drew Ski, live with your legs, man.
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Santa.
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Santa, did you get my letter?
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He's talking to you britches.
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C
I'm not.
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Of course he did.
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Right, Santa, you know my elf Drew Ski here. He handles the nice list.
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Nice.
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Visit t mobile.com James, it's such a huge honor and pleasure to have you here. Welcome to Kat on the Loose.
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C
Oh, Kat, the pleasure is all mine. Thanks for having me on.
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D
I have to say, I found you on social media and I want to start by reading the poem that I found and it touched my heart so much because it was truly one of the most powerful impactual, if that's the word impactful things that I ever read in my life. I was like, God, I'm like, I'm madly in love with your work. So I don't know if you have it in front of you, but I would prefer if you read it. If you have it.
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C
Yeah.
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D
Not read it. Instructions before visiting Earth.
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C
No problem. And thanks for that intro.
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D
So short, but I hope because it's one of the most powerful, special things that I ever read in my life. Go for it, James.
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C
Thank you. Yes. I mean, this is a fairly new poem. I wrote this a couple months ago and I just posted it on Instagram and it's. It's gotten a lot of love and attention. So thanks for. For reading it. And yeah, it's called Instructions before visiting Earth. In the event that you wake up and find your soul separated from source and manifest into mater form. Don't panic. Your condition is only temporary. You have been selected for the opportunity of human incarnation. This 3D simulation is designed to break up the monotony of eternity by giving you a fully immersive experience as a distinct ego identity. Your body will serve as your physical avatar as you navigate a dense and dramatic reality. There will be many distractions causing you to forget your true nature and origin. You will experience a range of emotions from joy to loneliness to despair. But remember, no matter what trials and traumas you encounter, your soul remains perfectly safe. At times, you may feel lost or afraid. This is totally normal. If you ever need guidance, simply slow down your busy mind and bring your awareness to the quiet place inside yourself. On this planet, nothing is permanent. People and things will come and go. You will fall in love and form sentimental attachments only to lose everything you hold dear. So cling to nothing too tightly, even yourself. And when it's time to let go, let go with grace. For nothing is owned, only borrowed. As you walk among the people on the planet. Try to be a good guest. Tread lightly, Remember that you are only visiting. Don't make a mess. Listen more than you speak. Give more than you take. Don't keep your soft heart locked inside a glass cage. Protected from wear and tear. You'll never make it out alive. And time passes quickly. So come back with some battle scars and good stories to tell.
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D
As you are reading it, I have tears in my eyes and I have goosebumps because the words are so powerful. So we. I've. I've read it so many times the past few days because as we know, you know, the chaos in the world, right. There's so much going on, and I think you packed everything up. Like you summarized it perfectly. You were obviously insanely inspiring, you. But let me ask you. You, like, as you were writing it, what made you. Because obviously you were born to write poetry. It's incredible. But what made you think of it or what inspired you to write something so powerful?
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C
Yeah. Thank you. And you know what? I think that's the first time I've ever read it out loud because it's still a pretty new piece. But, yeah, I mean, I've been writing poetry since I was young. You know, I. When I was like, 14, 15, I started to write poetry. And I wrote it all through my, you know, teenage years. And I took a long break as I got older and started chasing, you know, career, success and all of that stuff. I didn't really have time and space for Poetry. But in recent years I've sort of fallen back in love with it. And particularly in the last few couple months, I've been writing a lot of poetry. And you know, I just sort of write what comes to me. I really, I really think that all poetry and creativity and art is a form of channeling. So I, I would love to say I had some grand statement to make with that poem, but I think I thought of the title. Sometimes with a poem I'll think of a title or a first line that I, that I think is interesting. And then I sort of have to figure out how to write a poem with that topic. So I think I had this line of like instructions before visiting earth, like, what if your soul was given instructions before being born? And what, what would that, what would those instructions be? So I just sort of like, honestly just tune into my subconscious and write what comes through. And that's sort of what came through.
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D
And it's so powerful. But I have to say, because you mentioned you took a break and I know that, you know, because I'm a, I'm a writer. I've been writing since I was a kid. You know, it's one of my passions and I think as artists, unfortunately writing and poems and books. I don't even like saying it a lot, but it's kind of like a dying art, right?
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C
Yeah.
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D
I mean, I don't even know how these kids nowadays go to school like without books and a pen and paper because I'm like super old fashioned. I know I'm an old soul, love writing. Like I love literally writing with a pen and paper. But I am so happy that you're back doing it because I think with people like you, it's like, it's a calling and it's such a gift that you can share something so powerful, you know.
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C
Thank you so much. And, and you know, I, I agree. I think that in some ways poetry has become a lost art, but I do think it's making a comeback and it's already made a comeback. I have so many friends who are poets and, and I host open mics and, and so many people bring poetry to share. So people are still re. Reading poetry, writing poetry. It might not have the, you know, the, it's not like the center of the, of the culture, but especially with AI and like all the artificial writing and, and stuff that's out there. I do think people are returning to things that are more authentic and real. And poetry for me is just like a true expression from the soul and, and I Think it's, it's needed now more than ever. And I think there's more and more poets that are, that are starting to emerge and it's, I think it's making.
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D
A comeback that makes me so happy. You have no idea. That's why, like, when I read this poem, it touched my soul like you mentioned in the art. And I'm like, oh my God, I gotta have him on the show and I gotta share his beautiful, incredible work with as many people as I possibly can. But now you actually touched on, on important point, right, with AI and I want your opinion on that because of course it, it, it's go, it's our future, it's happening. And I think it's so helpful in so many ways. But I just did a post on my social media a few weeks ago, actually on my LinkedIn because I really wanted to grab the business world and I wrote, I hope you don't forget you have a brain and a heart because of AI Because I think a lot of people nowadays, they're just like, oh, write me this email, write this, write that, right? Do everything for me. And I'm like, okay, maybe we need to stop. Because like you just mentioned, certain things just have to come from you, right? And your heart and your brain and your soul. How do you feel about AI I since you, you're a poet and an artist?
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C
Yeah, I mean, I'm a poet and an artist, but I'm also, you know, interested in technology. I think techno technological innovation is inevitable and AI is, is, is a pretty big innovation and it's going to reshape the world as we know it, and it already is. And we're just beginning to see the impact that AI is going to have. So certainly certain industries and tasks are going to be completely transformed. Unfortunately, a lot of jobs will be lost. My hope is that new jobs will be created. But I think that AI is good for certain things and not for others. It's good for sort of menial tasks and repetitive tasks. Poetry is not a task. Poetry is a calling. Poetry is an expression of our human nature. So I think that art is going to survive and I do think there'll be a role for AI to, in the creative process. And I don't know what that's going to look like yet. But I think of, in the art world, I think of Andy Warhol and you know, he made his famous paintings with silkscreen technology, which at the time was sort of this like revolutionary thing. And a lot of people didn't think it was Art, because he was using a machine to make it. But. But we look back now, and it really is art, and it was using the tools and technology of the time. So I think that artists will find ways to use AI as a tool so it doesn't replace the artist. It becomes a tool of the artist.
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D
The artist. Right. James, I think, like, the way you write, I don't think AI is ever going to write like that because it's something unique to you. And I think that's what people need to remember. Any artist in any capacity, whether you're a podcaster, a poet, a writer, a screenwriter writer, I think we need to remember that the most special pieces of art, at least for me, are the ones that come from our heart. Like, when I read something that you wrote, I'm like, oh, my God, this is so unique to him. You know, it's obvious that, you know, you just flooded everything that you were feeling into your. Your words and your poems.
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C
Thank you. Yeah. And I'm sure it was influenced by a lot of things that I've read over the years as well, because I've been a student of spiritual spirituality and. And have studied, you know, the. Anything from Buddhism to the Vedic texts to Sufism and even poetry, I feel is a sort of spiritual path unto itself. So reading poetry over the years, I feel like I've just picked up so many different influences from everything I've absorbed and read and consumed, and it becomes part of you. And then as a creative, you take everything that you consumed and you sort of alchemize it and transmute it into your own expression. So I think that's what it is. I think. I don't know if those ideas in that poem are necessarily mine exclusively, but it's more like my summary of all of the influences that I've had over really, years of studying spirituality and poetry.
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D
Effy, listen, don't ever stop writing again, because this is what you were born to do.
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C
Thank you so much. I won't stop. You gave me permission. I won't stop now.
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D
Because, seriously, there are so many things that you write that are so powerful. You have such a good way with words. I could go on and on and on, but there are few ones that I want to ask you questions about.
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C
Sure.
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D
For example, in another Instagram post, you wrote that and I, I don't think I'm quoting you. Ipsy's literist, perfectly. But you wrote something that you think creativity is something that everybody has and they can tap into that as a muscle. And I was like, is it really? Because sometimes people ask me, like, let's say, if you're not a good writer. Right? I study communications because I wanted to learn how to be a professional writer. But I think I'm just a good writer in general. I just love doing it. And it comes easily to me in any language that I speak, by the way. And people ask me, like, is it possible to teach someone who is a horrible writer into being a great writer? Is it really possible to teach someone who is not a poet into being a poet? So I'm not really sure how I would answer that, but do you really think everybody has some level of creativity within that, within themselves?
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C
Certainly, yeah. This, this is what my last book is all about. It's called the art of you. And it's like a guidebook for unlocking your natural creativity. And I really think that creativity is human nature. It is our dharma as humans. You know, if you look at a frog's nature is to jump and a bird's nature is to fly. The human nature is to create. And it's sort of self evident in our design because we have all these tools for creation. We have intuition and imagination, which are literally portals to other dimensions. Like I. That's why I think the creativity and I before writing, I usually start with meditation, just to sort of tune in to that subconscious so I can download ideas that are beyond my conscious mind. And we all have access to these tools now. They can be cultivated. I've spent years meditating and, you know, cultivating my. The soil of my own consciousness so I can be receptive to the muse. So it does take practice and dedication. But we all have imagination and intuition. And then we have just like our brains and our emotions and our hands that can hold a pen or a paintbrush, and our vocal cords and our tongues that can express vocally and sing and speak. So we're designed to create. But, you know, can everyone be a poet? Well, I don't know. You know, I think that we all have different skills. And maybe you can't make someone be a poet, but I bet they have some other form of creative expression that they could master. Whether, you know, I think creativity is bringing any vision to life, bringing your imagination to life in whatever form that takes. So even as a podcast host, you know, this is a form of art for you or I think of what's more creative than being an entrepreneur and building a business and creating new revenue streams. And it's called making money. Right, because you're making it. So that is an art form. So we're designed to create and our creation takes on all different shapes and styles and forms, but it also really does take because, you know, children are naturally creative. Give. Children will just be creative. They'll sing, they'll draw, they'll. They'll do anything. Right? So we often lose touch with that. But, you know, there's a difference between just being creative and then like mastering your craft and being like a really good poet or a good painter. But really that just takes dedication. So it's just find the one thing that you love to do and dedicate yourself to it and put in the hours of practice and consistency, and that's how you master the craft. So it takes the, you know, tapping into your own nature, but also having that dedication and commitment to your craft so you can master it.
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D
It's interesting that you said that children, because that. That was going to be one of my questions to you. I, like you said, kids are very creative. Like, they'll paint, they'll do whatever, because I think they don't know what judgment is.
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C
And bingo.
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D
Right? That's one of my. You like. Because I know a poet, right? When you put the words out there, you are being very raw and very real. You're showing a big part of yourself. It's like me with the show. I tell people my stories. Like, I tell every detail of it. Everything I went through, all the horrible things that happened to me. I try to be as raw and real as possible because I feel like that's how I connect with my audience and eventually help people out there overcome all the tragedies and tribulations that I was able to overcome. And I get messages from people from all over the world, like, oh, I'm not sure I'm gonna put whatever. Like, if it's a writer. Like, the other day I was talking to a musician, and he was like, oh, I really want to be a musician, but I'm embarrassed or ashamed. You know, I'm ready for people to read my songs. And I think that's a big problem with a lot of artists. Like, they're afraid of how they're going to be judged. Do you have any tips? I mean, first, do you agree with me that that's a thing and you're saying yes with your head? If you guys are listening to the audio, he's going, okay, any tips? Like, how would an artist overcome the fear of judgment to actually, you know, put their work out there into the universe?
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C
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is. This is the main thing that stops people from creating. You know, it's like being judged or being embarrassed or feeling that they're not good enough. And there's so many ways I could answer this. Like, the first thing is that I like to say that it's not about being good at creativity. It's about creativity being good for you. Right. So, you know, I. I like to go down by the lake here in Austin and go for a walk. And then whenever I do that, I see people out there running and jogging around the lake. Now, how many of these people that are jogging around the lake are going to be running in the Olympics? Probably zero. Right? Probably zero. But they're doing it anyway because it's good for them. It's good for their body. It's good for their mind. It's good for their. To regulate their emotions. It's. It's. It's A, it's a, it's a wellness practice. And I think that we made the mistake in this society because we live in this hyper capitalistic society that, that, that judges things based on their, I don't know, on a sort of hierarchy. And there's like, there's the Picassos and the Beyonce's and the Shakespeare's, who are these great geniuses who are allowed to be artists. Then everyone else is just supposed to like get a job and put their head down and suppress their creative nature. And we're doing ourselves harm by suppressing our creative nature. It's just like if we suppress our emotions, if we have a negative emotion and we suppress it, it's going to fester in this beneath the surface and it's going to atrophy and decay into sickness. Whether that's emotional sickness or spiritual sickness or even physical sickness. And the same thing happens when we suppress our creativity, right? So we need to suppress, express it rather than suppress it. And I think that you have to be a bad artist before you can be a good artist. Like no one starts off as being an amazing artist. I mean, maybe Mozart, there's always someone, right? But for the most part, it takes a lot of time to become really good at something. So you need to go through years of being sloppy and being messy and doing it because you love to do it and not worrying about the judgment because the expression alone has value. This is why I host open mics, because I want to democratize creative expression and give everyone a chance to share their art because it's good for them. So I think of, I think of creative expression as being a healing modality and a spiritual practice. And if you want to get good at it, you just need to dedicate yourself to it and you'll get better. But even if you're not good at it, there's still a lot of value in doing it.
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D
Oh my God, I agree with you 1 million percent.
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D
Plus my take on it is first of all, it doesn't matter what you do in the world. Like you said, even if you're the best at whatever it is that you do, there are always going to be people that don't like it, that are going to criticize you no matter what. Right? So who cares? There's all you cannot please 100% of the population of the world. You're going to have your lovers, you're going to have your haters. You're going to have people that don't care. So, like, whatever, I throw it out there in the world and if it, if it means something to you, great. If it doesn't, move on.
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C
Yeah. And I like to say that you have to be your real self to find your real people. So in other words, you might not want to speak up or share your creativity or your writing because you're afraid of what people will think. Well, the people that will judge you are not your real people.
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D
Exactly.
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C
Right. But, and, and you, and you find your real people by putting your neck out there and, and, and, and risking that embarrassment. Because vulnerability is the gateway to intimacy. There is no intimacy without vulnerability. So, you know, you, you might lose some very surface level friends who aren't really deep friends if you are, if you express your true self. Because maybe they're. And the thing is, they're only going to reject it because they are rejecting that part of themselves.
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D
Oh my God. Yeah, absolutely.
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C
But when you put yourself out there and say, this is who I am, this is my art, this is my creativity, this is who I am, this is my authentic nature, then you're going to give yourself a chance to find the people who are going to be your true people.
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D
Yeah. Oh my God. One million percent. And there is another reason, which is in your poem, that we read instructions for being on planet Earth that most people forget. And that's the most important reason to me. And I think it should be a really important reason to most people. We're not getting out of here alive. So the way I see it is like, just go for it. You know, I think most people die with their dreams buried with them.
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C
100. There's a great quote that's like, don't. Don't die with the music still inside of you.
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D
Yeah, there you go. Like, you know, I do something crazy. Like a lot of people think I'm crazy, but it means a lot to me. Like every January 1st, everybody's like hungover from the. The parties the night before. La la. I wake up super early in the morning with my dog Phoenix. Go to the. The Hollywood Cemetery. It's like a really gorgeous forest Lawn Forest.
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C
Yeah, I've heard of it.
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D
It's such a beautiful place. Such a beautiful place. But the reason why I go there and I walk around with Phoenix and there is never anybody there is because I want to be reminded that most people there died and they buried their dreams with them because. Simply because they didn't go for it. And then there's some incredible artists buried there and in other places that lived their dreams and put their art into the world. That's like a really important reminder to me to just do everything that I want to do and put my art into the world every single day.
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C
You know, it's such a good reminder. It's. It's all temporary and. And time does move quickly. You know, I remember, you know, thinking like, you know, the next five years are going to pass in the blink of an eye. You know, you look back five years ago, it seems like a blink of an eye and it's like, what, so what did you do? Did you do things that made. That were satisfying to your soul or were you just like, conforming your nature to. To satisfy social expectations? Right? And it's like, are you going to keep suppressing your nature or are you going to express it? And I think the only way you can be truly fulfilled is to embody your true Nature and live your purpose and just to find what that purpose is. You know, to be curious and to go exploring and to explore your own inner world and to explore the outer world, right, and find what's out there, find what you're made of. It's like. Like, it's sort of. It's sort of a privilege to be here, right? It's like. It's like we're only alive for a blink of an eye. Look at human history. We're just popping in and out. So it's. It. I know it's hard here, and it sucks in so many ways, and it's painful and sad and it ends, but it's still a privilege. So it's like, just try to make the most of it while we're here.
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D
I hope we're inspiring people listening to, like, because that's my goal now. Like, we're towards the very, very end of the year. This is literally the last episode of 2025, and this is why I wanted to do it with you, because I want to hopefully inspire people to just go for it and listen to your words. I'm gonna tell you guys his Instagram. I'm gonna tell everything, and, like, try to soak it in. And he wrote so many more, and I don't want to run out of time. I want to talk about another one that I think was very powerful and resonated with me. You wrote, in an insane society, being an outsider is a sign of sanity. I cannot relate to this more because for me, I always felt like that. Like, ever since I was a little kid, I always feel like, you know, the black sheep. I'm always doing my own thing. Like, I feel like I'm always, like, going against everybody else's. And the more like, I grow and get older and mature, the more I feel like that. And nowadays, I don't care. But, like, for many, many years, I was like, what's wrong with me? I don't fit here. I don't fit there. I'm so weird. I'm so different now. I'm kind of like, yeah, whatever. I'm happy doing my own thing. But what made you write that and what makes you feel like that?
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C
Yeah, and you mentioned being a black sheep. Something else I wrote was, you're not the black sheep. You're the chosen one. So, I mean, yeah, it's. It is. In an insane society, being an outsider is a sign of sanity. And I think that's 100% true. I mean, I think it doesn't take a genius to see that we live in an insane society, right? And it's just part of human evolution. I think that, you know, managing a whole planet at scale, it's really, it's really challenging to make it work for everybody. And there's a lot of imbalance, you know, economic imbalance, and, and, and, and people don't have their needs met. And there's, you know, there's wars happening around the world and people are being killed for their, just for, for where they're born, right? And it's, it's insane. It's insane. And it shouldn't be that way, right? So the whole point of me writing that was like, well, don't. Your goal shouldn't be to fit into an insane society, like, right. Because then you're just, you're just perpetuating the insanity. If you're just trying to climb the corporate ladder or, you know, you know, get a good job within an insane system that's going to leave you unhappy and, and drive you crazy and it's not worth it. So it's like, I think in the past, people wanted to be ins, Outsiders, right? They wanted to be in the cool club, they wanted to be at the, at the, the country club, and they wanted to be.
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D
There's still a lot of people like that.
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C
Oh, of course. No, of course. But I think it's changing, and I think that more and more people are recognizing that, like, I don't want to be with these people anyway. These, like, social climbers or these conformists or whatever it is, right? So I, I, I, I just had this vision of, like, outsiders are the new insiders. Like, I rather hang out with the cool kids outside the country club, and we can cause some trouble and share poetry and sing songs and truly enjoy ourselves rather than trying to conform ourselves to fit into a crazy society. So that's truly the mark of sanity, is to not only be an outsider, but really embrace it and to make something from the outside rather than trying to conform yourself to be accepted on the inside.
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D
Oh, my God. I think it's all about doing your own thing. You know, Messages from so many people saying that, like, oh, you know, I don't fit in, or I'm not the prettiest or I'm not this. And I'm like, but I think this is what makes us unique, right? It's not about perfection. It's not about fitting in. Like you just said, I, I'm like, in the phase of my life that I'm like, so happy being with my dogs because I think everybody's so crazy out there. So, like, my circle gets smaller and smaller and smaller because I honestly don't give a. Anymore. People think about me. I'm like, you know, I just want to be surrounded by tons of quality and I don't care about what anybody says. And I think that these are very powerful words because once you, You. You stop trying to fit in, it's very liberating. You can, like, finally be yourself 100%.
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C
And, you know, just as an artist, you look at. Look at the artists who people truly love. It's the ones who are unabashedly themselves and have just doing. They're doing something that no one else could do because it's who they are. And they've. And they've embraced and accepted themselves fully and they're. And it's weird, right? It's good. Art is weird. It's different. That's why it's. That's why people, like, resonate with it. So, yeah, like, I. Weird art is way better than, like, elevator music. You know, what's the opposite of weird? It's like boring, conformist, like, elevator music or something that's just really stale and lifeless. So it's in those weird edges that people, that the artists explore and they. And they find themselves in, you know, outside of the known territory, but they're exploring the unknown and they can bring back what they discover, whether that's like a weird fashion sense or weird song lyrics or something different, something new. And I think that artists breathe new life into society by exploring the fringes and finding weird ideas that they bring back and present. And it's like, I've never seen something like that before. I've never heard someone sing like that before. And it inspires us to find our own version of that.
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D
If you're listening up, like, just put your stuff out there into the universe. Just go for it, right? Like, don't try to copy somebody else. Just do your own thing. I really think that's the key, right?
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C
100. But I will say, just. I will say when you're starting off as an artist, I think it's totally okay to copy people because I think that at first you might not know what your voice is. So if you find like an artist that you really resonate with or a writer, I think it's okay to copy them. At first. It's almost as training wheels. Almost as training wheels. And then you kind of learn to. Because I think it. There's a great quote from the jazz musician Miles Davis. He said Sometimes it takes a long time to sound like yourself.
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D
True.
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C
So it's like, don't get frustrated if you don't have that. If you. You don't. You don't think you're unique or you're not original enough because takes time. I've been writing poetry for what now, 25 years, right? So. So it. Take it. You know, it's okay to copy as you're learning, as training wheels. And, and I. I first started, I had a lot of poets that I basically copied until I really gradually found my own voice.
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D
Right. And I think it's like you said, it's practice and constancy. Right? We. Every day that we do the same thing. Like, if you listen to my podcast five years ago, I'm like, who the hell was that woman? That's not this.
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C
Yes, yes, I did.
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F
1, 2, 3, 100, 200. The more you do something, you grow.
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D
With the process as an artist. And you learn a lot about yourself.
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C
Too, you know, out 100%. And that's why it's a good New Year's reminder that it's okay to give yourself permission to change and to become someone new. It's like we're always shedding our old identities and our old skin, and it's like every seven years, every cell in your body has died and been replaced with a new cell. So we're like, literally new people. So it's like, I. I love the art of reinvention. Reinventing yourself and shedding your old skin and allowing yourself to change, because that's what life is. It's change. It's not static and it's fluid. So give yourself permission to become somebody new and to explore new things and to reinvent yourself.
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D
It's ever evolving. So many more things I want to read, but let me try to squeeze in two more, because this one also, it's pretty obvious. It's very vulnerable, and it's so real, and I love every word of it. I'm not going to read all of the. Oh, I'm going to. Guys. By the way, his insta is words. Words are vibrations. Words are vibrations. Go follow him. Because if you need inspiration every single day, it's there. And I mean, obviously you're touching the hearts of thousands and thousands of people because your engagement is incredible. But I love that you did this one. Random selections from my notes app. You literally just dumped a bunch of little notes. And I love this one. I'm gonna read one. Okay? And you tell me about it. The real Flex is allowing yourself to simply exist without needing to justify or prove yourself.
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C
Yeah, yeah. The real flex is simply allowing yourself to exist without needing to justify or prove yourself. Yeah, that's just. You know, this idea of flexing, it's like, oh, I'm gonna flex my jewelry or my car or like, I'm. You know, you're showing off. Off, and it's like, I just kind of, like, turn it around. It's like, no, the real flex is just being yourself and not caring what other people think. And by the way, that's what's more magnetic. It's like, if you can show. You can show off your car, you can show off your watches, you can show off whatever it is you want to show off. But, yeah, no one really is impressed. People are like, yeah, this guy's a douchebag. Whatever. But, you know, I think authenticity is magnetic. Right. So when you just. Just be yourself and don't care what other people think. And the. And. And the more you. The less you need, the more you attract.
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D
Oh, my God.
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C
So it's like, that's. The real flex is just not even caring what people think and just doing your thing.
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D
I agree. One million.
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C
That's where aura comes from.
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D
And let me tell you something. If you can get to this point, it. I think it's one of the most empowering and liberating lessons that we can learn in our lives. Like, figure, like I said, we literally just walk around. Like, I don't give a. What anybody thinks about me. This is me. This is who I am. The right people for me are gonna stay around me. The wrong people keep moving. It's. It just feels so light to live like that.
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C
Yeah. Yeah. It's like setting down all the heavy baggage that we're carrying around, which are other people's expectations.
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D
Yeah. Another one. I have to read this one, too, because this one, I mean, I'm literally. I'm not kidding. I'm gonna print some of this. Like, they're my computer, and I have, like, this. This vision board right here in my office, and I'm gonna put this quotes here because they're so inspiring. Listen to this one, guys. Vibes speak louder than words. You cannot fake the frequency. I could not, because I'm all about vibes and energy.
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C
Yeah.
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D
So much more than any words. So I think this is so perfect.
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C
It totally. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, people. People will forget the words you say, but they won't forget your energy. Right. That's what leaves an impression. It's like, you can. You can try to think of the perfect thing to say. But it's really just like, who are you being in the moment? What is the energy? You're, you're, you're, you're. That you're vibrating, right? And I think that speaks louder than what you say. So it's like, it's like kind of like getting out of your head and into your body. It's like, like people try to intellectualize everything and they want to say the perfect thing and they don't want to mess up, but it's like, no, just like be in your body and let that vibrate out and let your, let your nature and essence speak for itself.
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D
Effy, I love that so much. And you know, I gotta tell you something. When I read that, I swear to God, the best compliment that people ever give me. Nothing makes me happier in the world, is when somebody writes to me, oh my God, I love your energy.
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C
Totally.
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D
I like that when my listeners or anybody on my social media, they're like, oh, I love your energy. Well, that makes me happier than. I don't care if somebody tells me, oh, you're pretty, you're cute, then okay, thank you. But when somebody tells me they love my energy, that makes my day.
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C
Totally. Yeah. Energy, it speaks louder than words, but it also speaks louder than your physical appearance too. It's like the, the, the hottest people, it's like their energy, it's not their physicality because there's like people who are beautiful but like you don't really want to be around them or what. But like the energy is like way more sexy than like just the body.
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D
Good energy. And I think like now it's a good time for people to reset that right into the new year. Before I let you go, I want to talk about your book, but let's finish the few self care quotes that you wrote because I think it's so important. Right. James, like said, you know, there's so much going on in the world, so many people are feeling lonely now. I think the holidays magnify that. I just did an episode about that last week and you know, it breaks my heart when I get messages from, from people saying, I'm feeling so lonely. I'm going through this, I'm going through that. And so I think focusing on self care is so crucial for our well being. And you wrote some really beautiful quotes. Do you want to read them for us from your insta?
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C
Sure, yeah. Yeah.
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D
I love them so much.
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C
Yeah. Because you know, self care is important and everyone knows that. Like you know, therapy is helpful and self care is helpful. But I think that in this culture where healing has become more of a priority, which is absolutely good. But I do think that people can get stuck in this hamster wheel of healing. Yeah, right. Where it becomes like they're never. They're never fixed, they're never whole because they're always needing to be healed. And to. To heal, that just means to be made whole. And the truth is, we are already whole. We just need to remove the. Anything that's distracting us from our own nature. So this is just like, you know, sometimes self care can be fun. And like, having fun can be the most spiritual thing that you do. So here are some of the quotes. Sometimes self care looks like shaking your ass on the dance floor. Sometimes self care looks like romanticizing your life without waiting for permission. Sometimes self care looks like eating a whole pizza by yourself while. While watching your favorite movie. Sometimes self care looks like staying up all night drinking wine and catching up with old friends. Sometimes self care looks like burning the bridges to all the places that no longer serve you. Sometimes self care looks like blocking your ex on social media. And this last one's sort of a joke. Sometimes self care looks like faking your own death and disappearing from society.
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D
For a few days, right?
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C
Yeah, maybe a couple days.
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D
Disappear for a little bit.
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C
Yeah, that was more of a joke.
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D
I. Look, I love all of them. I have implemented a bunch of them. I will definitely implement a few more. And I think your message, I mean, vibrates insanely well. I love your energy. I like my to do list. I'm gonna order your book today for sure. Because I'm a massive bookworm and I cannot wait to read it. The art of you. Where can people find it?
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C
Yeah, wherever books are sold. It's called the art of you. The essential guidebook to reclaiming your creativity.
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D
Let's do that. Let's start the year creative. Loads of self love, high energy, great vibrations. And I think people can find all your links. I mean, I'm putting his link right here on this episode. If you guys are listening to the audio episode. If you're on YouTube with the video episode, the link is also here because I think all your links are within this link link on your Instagram. Words are vibrations, right, James?
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C
Totally. Yeah. I've got. I've got like, I teach a lot of online classes and I. And I do, like, poetry classes and branding classes and I host, like, open mics and creative community.
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D
Sorry, I already. I am a part of your WhatsApp community.
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C
Oh, awesome. Yeah. And in the new year, I'm going to be bringing my open mics to. To the online so I can do more. You know, I really love to build creative communities so. So creatives can have other creatives all around the world to meet with and to learn from and to see and be seen. So sometimes it's hard to find community in your immediate surroundings. Like we live in a world where we don't always talk to our neighbors. Right. And we might have co workers that we are forced to be friends with, but we don't really like. So I really love building creative communities so people can make friendships and share their art and be seen and be heard and, and that's sort of what I'm up to these days.
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D
Amazing. Guys connect with James and I mean, you heard him like whether you are creative or not, you have creativity inside you put your projects into the world. I think that's my message. Don't wait because remember the most powerful. Oh my God. This is one of the most powerful things I've read in my life. Instructions before visiting her. Nobody's living this place alive so we might as well have fun with it, right? James?
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C
100%.
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D
Thank you. Was such an honor having you. I wish you a very happy new year ahead and if you ever come to la, let me know so we can meet in person and do another one.
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C
I would love that. Thank you so much for having me on.
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D
Thank you. This was the last episode of season five, guys. I cannot believe that we are jumping straight into season six in January. So happy New Year to everyone. Sending so much love being. Be safe out there. I love you guys. Thank you. James, it was such an honor having you.
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C
Thank you.