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Welcome back to catching up with Katie. I feel hungover, and I had not a single drop of alcohol this weekend. But it's called the horse show Hangover.
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Yes.
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For a reason. And we were. We weren't very far from home. We were at the Roan World show, which, yeah, everyone's like, why are there so many world shows? You know, that's just the big shebang at the end of the year. It is, it is actually open to the world. It. People just didn't travel for it. It's a newer organization, and so it was a bit smaller than, let's say the AQHA World show or the Apha World Show. But. But yeah, I don't know if you. I don't know if you notice in the middle of the table.
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Let's check it out.
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Whoa.
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There's.
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There's a couple of trophies there because Kennedy.
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Is that actually Kennedy?
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No, I thought of that too. I was like, how cool would it be?
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So apparently these are handmade and the guy who makes them when you win it, will customize it to your own.
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So he will put. It. Will put Kennedy on there.
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Yeah, that's cool. He will if you want to.
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So are we gonna do that?
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I think they look close enough.
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Okay.
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I think they're fine. But yeah, so we, we just had a really good horse show. Ended yesterday. Filming today because this needs to go out tomorrow. But we brought Rachel in today because we had no one else.
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It's a last ditch, last resort.
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I'm just kidding. I do want to hear about. Is your back still broken? That's what I want to hear first. That's what the people want to know.
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Okay. Yes. And I also have a bulging disc.
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So what did they say have to do for that?
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Physical therapy and possibly injections.
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Like a horse?
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Uhhuh. Honestly, exactly like it.
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When you, when you go to, like, people, doctors, do you, like, know things because of the horses? No, because of the horse.
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I mean, I would assume they're about the same, but I'm not like.
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I mean, I'm certainly desensitized to pregnancy and birth.
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Oh, good.
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Okay. So for those who don't know, Matt's wife is literally about to give birth,
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about to fall
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out.
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She's past her safe day. It's fine that way.
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Yeah.
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So when you go to baby doctor appointments, do you. Do they say some verbiage that makes sense to you now? I don't know. I've never been in a human situation.
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Ever hit you with a progesterone levels? Look, Nice.
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I don't pay attention.
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It looks a little lax in the pasture on the ultrasound.
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You don't know that until they come out.
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Lax in the past.
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But whenever they're doing the ultrasound and I'm looking at it. That was a bad example. Yeah, sort of. It's mostly just, like, in the moment of birth, like, when she's having it.
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Oh, you feel. You feel right at home.
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All right, baby's out.
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Are you. Are you filming it?
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Huh?
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Are you gonna film it?
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No, I did. I did all I could just being supportive. I, like, had her fan on her face. I almost got, like, tangled in her hair and.
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Oh, Lord, I would tell you to, like, go sit down.
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No, it was great. 10 out of 10. We'll do it again.
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Okay.
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So, you know. Yeah, I mean, what are the. You know, when a foal is born, we're like, okay, it needs to stand. Obviously that's not a thing with your human. Human baby.
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Dip the meconium.
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Dip the meconium.
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I think they swab it.
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They swab it.
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I know, right when she came out, I, like, dropped to the floor and
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went,
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Mr. Turbin, look at your baby.
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Did. Did you do the cord?
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Yeah. I don't remember.
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Did you?
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I did.
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I. It was all a blur, though. I couldn't remember.
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I got.
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I know I did it, but did
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your doctors be like, you want to catch it? Because I've seen some things on Tick Tock where people are like, yeah, they let my husband, like, deliver my baby.
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I pulled my own out.
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You. Kourtney Kardashian did. Oh, my God.
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How do you.
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What? Huh?
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Because I. I just went through my legs and just. Very barrel. Primal. Primal.
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Yeah.
C
That is one arm. Which one?
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Rayleigh Rowan. I was. Oh, it was terrible. It was, like, 26 hours of labor. I wanted to die. They almost sent me home. They're like, you're. You're just not progressing. So after 26 hours, I'm like.
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So they. Did they cut you or did.
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No, I just. They gave me the drugs finally, and I could relax and just.
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I see it.
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Yeah. Went very well from there.
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But I will be getting the drugs.
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Do. Do it.
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Yeah.
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I highly recommend it.
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Not that I'm pregnant right now. Guys don't take that like that. So baby comes out, you cut the cord, they swab the thing. I'm trying to think of the. The similarities here. Past the meconium. They're not going to stand for a good 10 to 14 months, but you
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do need, like, skin to skin. It's kind of like mom licking.
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Yeah. Nickered.
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And you're just like, did they have salt on her?
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No, but we put it in a barrel for later, obviously.
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Did you get it, Dr. Matthew? Did you get it?
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He swing by. He swung by later and said, did you.
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Did you get it encapsulated?
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No. No, you can't do that. That's about the only thing no, you can't do.
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No, we didn't.
C
I wanted to get a little bracelet of it.
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I'm just kidding. Oh, my gosh.
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Not like the encapsulated.
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Okay.
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I thought you meant, like a bracelet of the cord.
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Oh, God.
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Okay.
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I'm just. I'm just imagining right after you're like, she's holding a baby and everything. You're like, you lean over to throw that out. Lean over to the doctor.
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Be like, real quick.
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What are you doing with that?
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So it's all just like. All this is just, like, trash. Let's just go out the next day.
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So. Well, I was about to get on something that's a conspiracy theory, and we're just not gonna get.
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We really went on the whole pregnancy train.
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I'm just not gonna get there.
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Take it there.
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But we did, so. Yeah, you might have to just, like, jump and run at any moment, though. Is that why you're in a suit?
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No, I'm just. What? I'm just trying for catch up with Katie. I did almost watch a YouTube video for, like, birthing in a car. It's like, the last time she woke up, she was like, I. Like, you know, her water had started leaking or whatever. Like, oh, we should go to the hospital. And went to the hospital and had a baby. Like, it was never, like, the baby's coming type situation. So that's what I'm more nervous about.
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Yeah.
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We're like, an hour from the hospital. So I was, like, birthed in the car. Like, I would for sure if I felt like I could.
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Yeah.
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But I didn't end up watching the YouTube video, so I want to be out of luck.
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I mean, you've been around enough horse births.
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Yeah. And I've seen the Andy Griffith show, and I've like, oh, my gosh.
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I'm. I'm too confident that I think I could just handle it.
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Yeah. Like, you see it in westerns all the time. They're like, we don't have a doctor. Like, well, the husband's going to have to do it. Just get me some hot water. And all you need is hot water and towels.
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But, like, what's the hot water for.
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I've always wondered sterilization.
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Wiping them off.
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Wiping them off, cleaning them up and. Okay, yeah, you know, it's hot water.
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It's just hot water
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and something to bite on.
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I'm very glad that she stick. Held out, because I think at one point you were like, I think I have to go. I think we're having a baby today.
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Well, she had just like, this is just a different process. Like, she's like, the. The. She's doing the. The. The. And I'm so naive on this subject. She's doing, like, the. The things as opposed to, like, the water's leaking. Now we're gonna go do all this. It's like we're doing the process. Like, oh, she. This is happening. So, like, okay, now we're in. Like, it's probably gonna happen within a week or whatever. Like, these things are progressing, so it could be. It's like, hey, you know, we're just on. We're gonna find out more today in like, an hour.
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Yeah. Has she lost her mucus? She has soon.
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What's that? What time window?
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Like a week Tomorrow.
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A horse is like, tomorrow to two weeks?
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12 hours to two weeks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So.
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Well, that's.
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That's cool. I'm very excited to. Are we saying. Are we allowed to say her name if not?
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Yeah, I don't. This has just been different. It's just like, the first one, we were just like, oh, my gosh, first baby and whatnot. And we're like, Maddie made a comment yesterday. She, like, feels bad for her because we weren't like, oh, my gosh, belly. Because there's just another live one right there.
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You know, it's just so second time around is a lot more relaxed, so
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I feel that a little bit.
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Well, jumping back to the. The horse show, a lot of people were like, what is. What does this mean? Like, what? Like, you. You're saying this is a Rhone World show, but then you're going to the NSBA World show, and then you're going to the AQHA World show, and then you're going to the Congress and, like, what. It. This is words at this point. And I'm like, what kind of. It is? Like, it is just kind of like what you want it to be. And so, like, I made a video explaining it as best as I could. And the comment section, instead of being like, oh, okay, that makes sense now. Was like, how very American of you to make it all about you. It's not the world. And, oh, it was so wild. Like, what did you do all the comments? No, I was just like, Jamaica video. Like, stock horses, which is in the United States, generally, like, thought of as quarter horses and paint horses and like, Appaloosas and stuff like that. So stock horses, they all kind of had the same standard for their, like, how they're built, how they move, the same types of classes at the shows, that kind of deal quarter horses. And I want to be careful with how I say this, because I don't want to, like, take away from any other breed. But, like, quarter horses tend to be, like, the standard and they're the foundation. So for that reason, like Appaloosas, an Appaloosa mare can breed to a quarter horse stallion. But, like, I. I couldn't breed one of my mares to an Appaloosa stallion and register it. Quarter horse. Like, Appaloosas are allowed to bring in quarter horse blood, but we're not allowed to bring in Appaloosa blood. Yeah, same thing with, like, paints. So, like, there are double registered paints and quarters. I don't know how that got started, and I don't know how it works. So, like, my double registered mares who are painting quarter, they can kind of breed with either. And I don't know, it's kind of. It's kind of weird, but those are, like, the breeds. And then there are color registries. So for the color registries, you have to be first a part of one of the stock breeds. So you have to be a quarter horse or a Appaloosa or a paint horse. And then if you're a palomino or a buckskin or in this case, a roan, you can be a part of the color registry. And they have their own separate kind of deal. Like, you go. It's kind of. It gets smaller and smaller because you're just limiting the amount of horses that can be in the association. And. And the Roan Horse association is newer, and so there's just not that many people there. Like, and it's getting bigger, and it was bigger this year, and I sponsored the super horse, and I was so happy that we got to, like, see this really cool show. And. And, I mean, I thought there was a good amount in my class. There was 19 in my class.
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Oh, yeah.
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So, like, if it keeps getting bigger, it'll have to be split into prelims and then go into finals and all that good stuff. So.
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Yeah. Cause it wasn't that long. It was four days. Yeah.
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Uh, they don't have as many classes as they would like. To as well. They want to grow. Um, and so for that registry, you have to either be roan or have a roan parent. They probably, as they get bigger, will limit it to where it's like, okay, the Rhone bred horses. So the horses that have roan parents are over in these classes, and then the roans are in these classes. But, like, they do the same thing with buckskins and with palominos, and I think they do it with Duns and I don't know.
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But the comments were upset that it was called the World Show.
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Yeah. And I'm like, well, here's the thing.
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Are there any restrictions?
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No.
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So there's no geographical restrictions on.
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No, absolutely not.
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So anyone in the world?
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Yes. Nobody in the world just showed up.
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No, but like, at the World show, like, I remember as a youth kid at the AQHA World show, which people say the same crap about that. I'm like, no, there were so many countries. Like, it was a whole thing. One of the. One of the evenings at the Youth World show, we would have, like, our parade of states and countries. And so, like, Canada, Austria, Germany, Italy. There was some South American countries. I think there was Mexico and Argentina. And, like, I mean, it was a lot of countries, and a lot of them would bring over kids that would lease horses in the United States, so they didn't have to, like, fly the horses over. But there was tons of. Of participants that were international. And so same thing for, like, the paint World and the NSBA world and stuff like that. Like, people come over. It's mostly that they, like, house their horses here and then. So there's not a whole lot of transporting horses over, but this is just smaller. It is open to the world. And the thing that I was trying to get across that just really wasn't resonating from the video I made the other day was that, like, our breed is the American quarter horse. It's not that. Oh, this is the American championship. No, the American quarter horse is the breed. And it's everywhere. Denver bred quarter horses, like, American quarter horses. The breed. Denver bred them in Germany. Germany in France, Australia in Australia, in Canada, in Austria. Like. Like, there's one coming in New Zealand next year. Like, he. He bred them all over the world. So it's just that our breed originated here. So that's why the World show is here. But it's from everywhere.
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Are we. Are we gonna get to go see some of those?
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Yeah.
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That's another thing I've been pushing for is international travel. International.
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I really think we need to go to Australia because there's a story the
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ones that were mean in my comments.
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Oh well can you be nice things
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that can kill you in Australia
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like
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but there's a lot.
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Their regular spiders are terrifying.
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Yeah.
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And people in the comments.
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That's true. That's true.
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But yeah, I, I don't want to take away from the people that won and had a very successful Roan World show because it is a cool thing and it is, it is like you know, hopefully in the next like I want to help them get the word out so that it does become this like huge shebang and their numbers are up. But like even still there were very nice horses there. There were very good riders there. But all that to say I am extremely proud of my, my Roan World championship.
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I would be too.
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I'm very proud of it and my. I love the trophies and Kennedy was great and Taft Dickerson showed her in the senior and so spoiler. Some people were like did you. Did you give him the trophy? And I was like no I didn't. You should have though because here's why. Here's why it. It's always dependent on. He didn't care. It's always dependent on like I think he did care. Your no he didn't. Your deal with the trainer because I was going to show her the senior and who's to say I wouldn't have won on her in the senior and I would have gotten that trophy and I. He was like you should let me show her. And I was like okay.
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But what happened was is that he did show her. He did and he did win.
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He did.
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Did he? If he expressed like a sort of
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like I been like I have you one made but I know that's a fair compromise. I know a guy.
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Are we able to talk about your go in?
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I think I mean cuz she was kind of naughty.
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It's out there.
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I mean you've probably posted.
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I've posted about it on Tik Tok and stuff.
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Yeah.
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So cuz she was naughty.
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She was naughty and I don't know why my. The worst ride of the entire show was the Roan World show. I don't know. Cuz she's so smart and she's. She does take notice of when things are like different and so they had us trot down the center which normally I'm like heck yeah, that's so fun. Not on Kennedy. We will be practicing that. It felt very. We don't know where we're going. It felt very like well let's just go straight, Kennedy. Like, let's just.
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What's, what's a straight line?
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Let's just go straight. And she can, she could take notice when things are different. Like even Stephanie said at the Kentucky show, they had them enter into the left instead of the right one day. And she was like, that's different.
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Hate it.
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And like, acted different. Like, yeah, she, she takes notice and she likes her routine. She's just a very, very quirky girl.
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Yeah.
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And so immediately, like, I trotted down the center. I was one of the first ones in. I have to go line up on the rail because that's just how the, were trying to make it like a big show. And that's what you do at the, at the world show and all that good stuff. Well, I, I, I stand there and I'm waiting. We have like 14 more horses to come in, so I have a minute before they're ready to go.
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Yeah.
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And we're having to just stand there and I'm like, just stand here. That's all you have to do. And she is like, like, just like going, I don't know what she's doing. She's sneezing.
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Yeah, I know.
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That's her, her allergies were sneezing every five seconds.
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That's her tail.
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We were talking about that and I don't know because we wiped her nose out afterwards. And she didn't do it for Taft. She didn't do it for Taft. So that was great. But it was a very quirky go. And there was a lot of traffic and there was a lot of different speeds going on. I also noticed that there was a lot of passing. There was a lot of. It was just, it was just different than, than a lot of the classes we've already been in.
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You had like a herd of five behind you.
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I will say there is something about, like, you're in a quiet pleasure class and you just hear the like behind you. It's a little daunting. But she held it together good enough. And she is fancy legged enough to the right, which someone posted to circus music. So that was great. But to the right. She did look a little bit marchy other than that.
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Which was funny. Was funny.
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If, if you're gonna troll, that's probably a funny way to do it.
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Well, you know, it, it's.
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As we look upon the trophies and
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whatnot weekend, it is something I expected. It is something I expected. I was like, as soon as I, if I do, if I win a trophy, if I win something that's like a title. I already knew there was gonna be people being like she bought that. I already knew.
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I just feel like you have more haters than like most celebrities. I feel like I don't even see enough a lot of celebrity haters.
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I feel like it's the same people and on all platforms maybe, I don't know, there's like this group of hateful people and they just go every on a pilgrimage.
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But I will say the 13 year old little girls are so mean.
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Really? Really? Those are the ones.
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They're the meanest little horse girls in person.
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Oh no.
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God no.
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Not online.
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No, they're not brave. But they're. But they're mean on the online.
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You certainly couldn't do anything. I feel like you could have more of a response online than you could in person. I feel like if a 13 year old came and just roasted you in person, what would you do?
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I don't, I think I'd probably hug her. I'd be like, I'm so sorry.
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Me, dude. I would be decimated.
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I would destroy me.
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I think I'd just be like, what made you want to do that?
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Right?
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Where's your mom?
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Yeah, that's my online response, not my in person response.
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Really?
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I'm telling you, if I, if I was near a group of what, 12, 13 year olds and I said, oh yeah, something, something, something and one goes un, thought he cooked.
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What does that mean?
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I don't know, it's useful slang.
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Apparently it means the old guy thought he just did something.
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So my posting clown music, my video I can laugh at. But somebody like as I'm walking by going roast, that would, I'd have to
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go back to the car, just go home. But anyway, here, same reason I'm not wearing a suit today.
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As easily manipulated as we are, his
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wife made fun of him.
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She didn't make fun of me per
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se, but to show what minimal amount it takes, let me tell you what, I change direction, let me tell you
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what I was looking for and then I'll tell you what I got. What I got was reasonable. I was looking for, oh, I'm putting it on and you see me for the first time in the morning and I get something like, oh my gosh, you should wear suits more often, you look incredible. That's what I want. Cuz I'm making a choice, putting it on this morning. It's a little.
A
So you had the suit on?
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I had it on.
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That's what makes it.
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I was wearing. I had it on at Home. And she said, oh, oh, where are you going? She thought I was going to court.
B
Oh.
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I said, why would you be going to court?
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They were gonna go film a catching up with Katie. And she said, oh, okay. You know, there's like, a heat advisory today, right? And at this point, I'm taking it off, like.
A
So she wasn't roasting you?
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No, she wasn't roasting me. But there was a lot of things other than how amazing I looked at. And I was like, you know what? I probably am just gonna.
C
Nothing. I'm alluding to. You should keep it on.
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Nothing alluding to. I should keep it on more of like a. You know, it's gonna be really hot today. You're wearing a jacket.
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Yeah, that's almost.
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I'm gonna sweat through it. It's gonna be horrible. What a terrible idea. And I take it off, and I'm gonna put on my regular shirt and get leaked.
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Well, I walked in late, I slept. I overslept. It's fine. I do that all the time. But I walked into my pajamas, as I do every morning, and walked to go change, and Matt's just standing there in a suit, and I was like,
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no, he was sitting, like, awkwardly in the corner.
C
Awkwardly. I was straight up war farming.
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Sure.
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There was. There was a. There was a. An air about me. They say. That's what they say.
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Okay. Yes.
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And to my defense, I walked by. Walked by Maddie this morning. She was. She had no competition.
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My outfit this morning tell you that. So.
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And the comments towards me were not. They were very reasonable things to say.
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Well, I had on. I just need pajama pants.
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Mad.
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And was like, you have on a suit. And he was like, yeah. And I was like, do you see what I look like? He's like, yeah, I do see what you look like right now. And I was like, I'm gonna go put on, I guess just a regular shirt and leggings like I normally do, because no one told me we were dressing.
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We're elevating things around here.
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This is just something I'm trying. I'm just trying to. They say dress for the job you want, not the one you have, so
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he doesn't want this job.
C
Any future lawyers out there? Any.
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Any noted?
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No, I'm just trying something out. I saw, really, this whole thing was sparked on a reel of a guy who's doing on a podcast environment. He wore something similar to this, and I thought, man, that just looks great. I'm gonna give that a shot.
B
I mean, if you had a Black cowboy hat on.
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I almost dawned the white one that I do have that I got at Kentucky.
B
That would have.
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Should have dawned it.
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But it would have been A black felt would really pull it together.
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I'm working on.
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I could go get my cowboy.
C
No, I'm working on getting one made.
B
I think you need some, like, alligator boots, too.
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The distant future or not in the near future. But I'm wanting, like, a custom one Made by one or two specific hat.
A
Are you gonna don your cowboy hat at any upcoming shows?
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If somebody's driving.
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Which somebody will always be driving.
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Is someone driving to Oklahoma?
D
Yeah.
B
Who? Cool.
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Always on default.
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So do we want to load my car up then?
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Either one.
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It's fine. I think somebody needs to drive. I mean, we. We just need a car.
C
Just because the equipment and stuff. Gosh almighty, the. What it would cost to fly.
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Stephanie's driving with the horse trailer. So we can always put a lot of stuff in the horse trailer as well.
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I also.
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I could put a hat in a horse trailer.
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Personally, Just enjoyed. It's just nice to have a car.
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I think it is, too.
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I think it is nice to have a car. Somebody's gonna end up renting one. And then it's just if we always.
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We always buy a lot of stuff.
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That's the other. Like that. That only took two horse shows to learn. Yeah.
A
We always buy a lot of stuff. And I don't want to make the mistake that I did last time. Where I was like, oh, yeah, Aaron, take my trophies home. I'll get them later. And it's been a full year. Like, I don't want. If I. I'm not gonna say I'm getting trophies. I'm just saying if a trophy is. God.
D
Yeah.
A
It's coming home.
D
Yeah.
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With me. And we'll be right there.
D
Well, we'll probably make a little thing.
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We gotta figure out where to put the freaking trophies.
C
Big thing of.
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I was. I was thinking of the list. So, like, I had a bunch of trophies as a kid, but they're in storage. They're not coming out. We're just gonna start fresh With Denver's from last year. And so when I do bring them home. And at this point, I'm like, well, I'll just leave them there. And. And if he does accrue anything else this year, I'll just get, like, a photo shoot made with all his stuff.
D
Yeah.
A
So we'll probably, at the end of the year, Bring it all home. Well, I did. I. I counted what I have. I was like, Shoot. I already have a lot of stuff to put on the wall for Denver and, like, have in an office space or whatever that we create. You know, he has three Congress bronzes, three sets of or three Congress champion belt buckles, a Congress Ch. Or Reserve Congress, set of Spurs. He has an NSBA World Championship thing. He has an NSBA Reserve championship thing. They're huge.
C
Don't flame me for this.
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Yes.
C
Have you bred him to Kennedy?
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That's his mother.
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Yeah, that's right. I was like, what a great idea.
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We're talking super horse baby.
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That's his mommy.
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Crazy idea, guys.
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I'm sorry.
C
I blamed. I've asked.
A
He's like, you know what? What about Code Red? What? That's her daddy.
C
Wild come together here. It's just like it all came together for me live on the podcast here.
A
But yeah, we already have a bunch of. Now these. Yeah, we got. We got some hardware. And so at the NSBA World show, Penelope's possibly going to be showing. Possibly. So that's one we'll see this year.
C
Who's writing her?
A
Jamie.
C
Jamie English. English, the horse trainer. Mr. And Mrs. English, you haven't.
A
You haven't seen Penelope in two years.
C
She been gone.
A
Who?
C
I've been looking at Daphne, probably. Yeah. So Penelope's grown.
A
Penelope, she grown girl?
C
Yeah, she's.
A
She's. She's old Trudy's girl.
D
Yeah.
A
Remember, it was our first. She was our first three years old. She was our first foal ever together.
C
Wow.
D
Yeah.
A
You weren't there for her birth, but we missed it.
D
Oh, yeah, Missed it.
A
Anyway, she's gonna possibly be like, cracking out for the first time and. And showing. But that's just all up to her because again, she's three. She young.
C
We just go, Denver was three when you showed him.
A
He was. Yeah, he was. And then.
B
Are you trying to redeem yourself there so much?
A
Denver, it has the possibility of showing. So I think it is a little bs. The NSBA World doesn't have an amateur performance stallions class, so I don't get to.
C
That just flows off the tongue.
A
I don't show. I don't get to show him in the halter at the NSBA World, which sucks. But really, a professional will show him in the open and then I'm think. I think at least. And then he'll show in a couple of Western writing classes. Most likely, if a class arises and we think it's a good idea at the time, I might show him in a pleasure class. It's five. I'm showing Kennedy in the novice and the amateur super steep classes. Let's not even think something's going to come up those.
B
Or we could manifest positive things.
A
If anything, the level one might.
C
That's not her style. She likes to think of the worst and then come out with first place.
A
Then I show Hollywood in. Potentially. We haven't decided because I think there is some scheduling conflicts. But possibly the trail. The level one trail and then the Level one and the amateur Western writing. So there's ten classes that are. Being that my courses are showing in at the NSBA World.
C
And that's in August.
A
Tulsa.
D
Is there one in November?
A
The World Show.
D
That's the one I've been remembering. World Show Congress.
A
Congress.
D
What's in September? Nsba. There's something in September.
A
So September I will be going to the AMHR Nationals.
D
Where's that? Somewhere fun.
A
Tulsa.
C
That's okay.
D
Okay. Thought it was going to be somewhere new.
C
Huge fan of Tulsa. I would like to go a couple days early.
A
We're gonna go and I'm gonna potentially show Gretchen a miniature horse.
D
But no big trips in September?
A
I don't think so. I think no. We've. We've just.
D
Okay.
A
We're just gonna be bop out there, catch show.
C
So you might be gone for a week.
A
Not a week. Three days. Why are y' all trying to plan a vacation?
D
I am trying to plan a vacation.
C
But anyway. That's a lot of short shores.
A
The first week of September will be literally dedicated to dove hunting, though. So
C
y' all hate that video. So that.
A
Y' all do. No one likes that video.
C
No one.
A
We keep doing it, but no one
D
likes it for some reason.
A
No one wants to watch it. I.
B
Well,
C
we're gonna give it to you.
A
We're gonna keep trying. We're gonna keep trying. We're gonna keep trying.
C
Bring something new to the table every year.
A
Rachel, have you watched any of our YouTube videos?
B
Unfortunately, I have not.
A
What's stopping you?
D
Can't even get the whole team on board.
B
Just don't think of it. Honestly, I don't really watch your Tick Tock or Facebook either.
A
I appreciate that.
C
I don't ever get it on my feed. Ever. Your stuff never comes on my feed.
B
Hers is the first one that pops up. And it's like.
A
And she goes, it's Brady.
B
And I'm like, nope.
C
Watches it.
D
That's funny.
A
Maddie watches it.
C
Well, I mean, it comes up on her stuff.
A
Okay.
C
Seeking out by any means.
A
Are you and Chrome doing better these days?
B
We are. He's in training and he's doing very well.
A
Chrome broke her back, by the way.
B
Yes.
C
Chrome's a horse.
A
Chrome's a horse and he broke her back.
B
Yeah. Love him to death.
C
Pretext.
A
Is he. Is he doing well with the trainer? Have you ridden him?
B
Yeah, I've ridden him three times.
C
He's since.
B
Yeah, you have? Yeah.
A
With a busted back, she shouldn't be, but she is.
B
Okay. The orthopedic guy said it was fine as long as I didn't fall off.
D
Well, that was the same case the first time.
B
Yeah,
D
true. I can ride for it.
B
We're just kind of like, farting around. We're not like, loping and doing a bunch of stuff. We just kind of poop around.
C
What are your plans with him? Do you just have him? Are you going to do something with him?
B
No, I'm hoping.
C
And like, was it, like, what a way to ask. Yeah, that was a genuine.
A
Are you going to actually do something?
C
Yeah.
B
So he's an old show horse and he was not a fan of it, so we're just gonna, like, trail ride and. Yeah.
D
Okay.
A
I mean, I don't feel like they really did what he's probably really good at, though, which is probably the range writing. Like, he'd be way cuter in the ranch rail and stuff like that than
B
being a pleasure horse. I think, like, western writing he would have been great at, too.
A
Yeah.
B
But now, see if a lead change.
A
Is it good?
B
I haven't done it in a couple
D
years, but I wouldn't start right now.
B
No, no, I'd warm him up.
D
Given your condition.
B
He's. Thank you for that.
A
I. I think. I think you need to make it a goal for 20, 27 to crack him out at one of the Murphy's Bro shows.
B
You know, the trainer, he is a ranch riding trainer, so. And I did tell him if he wanted to show him, he totally could because he loves him. He. He's like. He's a good boy.
A
I think you should crack him out. I mean, it's 30 minutes away.
B
It's so steep there, though.
A
Like, the ranch riding, that's. That honestly takes pressure off.
B
Yeah.
A
If you're going into, like. It's so steep here. I'm purely going to just show I'm not going to win.
B
So I'm gonna need to borrow your, like, shafts and a shirt.
A
Your legs are this big, Rachel. They. My chaps would be. You could put both of your legs.
B
Can I wear, like. Because I have black ones.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
I wore the one of the days I wore my regular stuff just because it was, like, too.
B
Yeah.
A
Close together, like, of the western pleasure stuff. So I. Yeah, I wouldn't think to. I. I saw somebody at this last show who was just in their jeans, like, it doesn't matter.
C
The fits at this last show were. Were great. And there is one. One particular lady that. It may not even be the same woman. It just. I just may, like, have made it up. Have made it.
B
What?
D
Nothing. I've interrupted too much already that you just reminded me it may not even be the same woman. And that reminded me back to a time when there was the roan thing. The. All the roan horses were out there, and there was a lady in a. Like, a copper shirt.
A
There was a lady that looked. Had the same color scheme.
D
I filmed her for, like, eight minutes and went, oh, my gosh, that's not gaty.
C
But it was in the practice bin
D
is why y' all were just warming up. And I was just following the RA and copper shirt and just. Yeah, yeah. And then at one point, she goes. And I went, oh, my gosh, that's not. What am I doing? And then I saw you in the other warmup from a distance. She's not even in here. I'm just nonchalantly filming you.
C
Yeah. We may need to get really good
D
at your job, getting the coverage.
C
Maybe. Like, they can do, like, shirts. Like, they do race cars.
A
They do that. Like, all the professionals have embroidery patches all over their shirts.
C
Are you not a professional?
A
Yeah, no, I'm an amateur.
D
She's an amateur.
C
When do you become a professional?
A
I will never become a professional.
C
Ever.
A
No. By choice.
C
What are we doing here not even going pro. What are we doing? You know, we're not trying to be the best.
A
Trying to be the best of the amateurs.
D
Got.
C
Okay, okay, I know. I know that, like, that's a thing. That sentence is so funny.
A
Amateur is just 19 and over, right? It's just the age group.
D
Yeah.
C
We don't want to be professional. We just want to be the best amateurs.
D
Like, what do you call best?
A
Non pro.
C
Best Non pro.
D
Non pro. Okay. I like that better.
A
Non pro is better.
D
Non pro.
A
Go back to your. You got.
D
Yeah. Sorry I derailed you.
C
It was literally the only thing I was going to say was that there's one lady that always has, like, the highest quality, just dripping, dripping, drip, drip. She wore a. I couldn't even describe it, but it. It was to the. Akin to, like, the old western flowery blue and white plates or whatever.
B
And it Just.
C
Just looks so great.
B
I'm curious which one, like, was it?
C
I'm either going to give you the brown horse, I'm going to give you
B
the short girl outfit.
C
Oh. What I just said.
A
He said it was like the blue and white plates, like.
C
Like those old western. I can't think of somebody I know, but.
D
Oh, and who had one, had the, like, the blue pants.
A
I loved that.
C
That love. Ridiculous.
B
Yeah.
C
I don't even know what color that was.
B
It was like, powdery, dusty. Yeah.
C
And your shirt that you had was my favorite shirt.
D
Yeah, the waffley.
A
The waffle.
D
I like the waffle.
A
I liked that one.
C
Look fantastic. And to. We are like 45 minutes here. But I did want to not pass up what we talked about this last horse show, which was throwing in an idea for catching up with Katie of doing like a little ride and sit,
D
a little sip and saddle.
C
Sip and saddle.
A
So y' all were serious?
C
I was serious.
B
Yeah.
A
They want to do a little sip and sit on a horse.
B
That would be so fun.
C
Like, literally, just.
A
How would we film that?
D
We could do it.
C
We could do it. We could for sure do it. But we just, you know.
A
Okay. But my thing is, okay, we gotta wait for weaning because the horses that we would do for sip and sit. First of all, we need to do in the arena first. Because none of y' all know how to ride. I mean, so we'd have to. We do it in a contained area.
C
I've low Ethel.
D
You have loped on Ethel.
C
It was a breeze.
B
Wow.
C
So surely we're gonna do it in
A
a contained area first. We are not trail riding. So I'd be on Kennedy. Who. Who. Who's the roster? Who's on who?
D
I would probably take Ethel.
C
She's more comfortable with me, though. She's straight up lope.
A
I mean, honestly, I do think Matt needs Ethel.
D
No, no, no.
C
What did we just know that was he was a better writer? I said. We talked about this with Katie and she said that he was a better writer.
A
Bo doesn't get written anymore. Annie's. Annie is gonna be back in the roster, Ricky.
C
We'd all just be in chariots around the Minis.
A
That is my grand plan. It is my grand plan that when we all move to a giant horse compound, that we all have our own mini and chariot and we just go for little evening.
B
Yeah.
A
Because the roads are like, they're barren. No one goes there. It's in the middle of nowhere. So we're just on. Absolutely, yeah.
C
I hate to be taken out at 70 miles an hour on a Gretchen, though.
D
Oh, gosh, that's terrifying.
C
Just a scene.
A
Who else. Who else is in the writing room?
B
Gracie, Gracie,
A
Gracie, Annie, Ricky.
C
I want one of the black ones. Kennedy, Raven or Indy?
B
I wrote raven. Raven's good.
A
Raven is good walking. She's got navicular stuff, so she just can't do.
D
We're just sitting.
C
We're just sitting.
A
Just sitting.
C
They can be in their stalls. Like, we get corresponding stalls. I mean, he's got to be on the horse.
A
So we all just sit in a circle out in the arena.
D
Well, maybe wall.
C
We just, like, doing, like, little or not. Like, I think a trail ride. Like, I didn't even think about that. That would be so fun. But I think just going on a trail ride your horses aside would be fun.
A
But what we need to do is if we go somewhere, go to a trail ride place where I'm super broke because mine are like, ew. I'm outside of an arena.
B
Like, yeah, Cedars in Lebanon does trail rides.
A
Really?
D
Okay.
A
Interesting.
C
I think. I think I've went on one one time in my life as a kid.
A
I went on one a couple years ago in Colorado, and it was so fun because I got on this liron mix named Charles, and he and I were always in the back. I could never get, like. I was like, can I open them up? And they were like, you can try. And I got him to a nice brisk trot.
B
Nice.
A
I could not get that thing.
D
Yeah.
A
To Caner. But also, they're trained for, like, non riders to ride them. And they're like, we stay in a line. Like, they. They know their job. So Jonathan was on. I can't remember his name. He was on this gigantic, like, quarter pers. They put us on the big boys. So he. He kept thinking. He was like, hey, she's trying to kill me. And I was like, my God. I was like, she's stomping. It flies. She's fine. Yeah.
B
I don't think I've ever seen Jonathan ride.
A
I've seen him ride twice.
B
I think you need to do a video of a lesson. Stephanie could give him a lesson.
A
I would have to be from afar. I'm miked up. I'm not allowed to talk to him. And then Stephanie's giving him the actual lesson.
B
It's like Becca and her child.
A
Yes.
B
You have to be.
A
I have to be away.
D
You have to be away.
C
I think it'd be cool to do a. Like, one of those ones that you go Camping at the end too. Like you just go ride your horse.
B
Sounds terrible.
C
I'm just, I'm getting old. Like I feel, I'm feeling the pressure of like I'm. If I don't start doing these things, then I'm gonna not want to. Like I'm gonna not want to do that at 50.
A
Right.
C
So I just feel like I'm just gonna have to start doing.
A
My parents used to be badass and do that stuff. They used to go to Montana and trail ride for 10 days straight and they just camped and they bathed in the river.
B
Yeah.
C
Like there's things like it'd be cool for you to do if you weren't involved in horse showing. But like those like event things like you can go like put in, turn in your phone if you want to or whatever. And like it's like a western thing. So like you go and essentially cosplay western.
A
The place that we went normally lets you round up cows, but the cows were already shipped out for the year cuz it was getting cold.
C
So cool. That'd be so fun.
D
Why don't we go do that?
B
Yeah, Katie, let's make a YouTube video on it.
C
We tried.
D
Just for fun.
B
I'll look into it.
D
What if we just go do it just for fun when we don't even film it?
B
September.
C
Yeah. The second week.
D
I feel like we need to have a. We need to go do a trip or something.
C
I know. Or a cruise.
D
Even if it's not.
A
I've said okay, but I'm scared of boats. I can't do a cruise. Have said that. We need a team building trip forever.
D
I agree.
A
And I have said I would supply tickets for a cruise. I have said that for now to me. Never said it for two years. And guess who puts the kibosh on it.
D
I can't do. I can't do a cruise.
A
Well, I bet you look. I bet you'd look a gift horse in the mouth.
D
I would. I think I would enjoy. I would enjoy a cruise, but I won't do it.
B
Okay.
D
I wouldn't. Joe. I like the content.
B
I know what you're thinking. Is it because iceberg the germs?
D
No, that's added to the list.
B
Oh, that's one of my top.
C
Like any kind of like public pool situation like that.
D
And that's a cruise is just one big public pool over a public pool.
A
So we, we went on a cruise ship that was. I saw maybe two children the entire time.
C
And that is the thing is like I. I know for myself I'm speaking as somebody who's never been on one, and I know that there are cr. Liner. That's not like the Disney cruise liner. Right. Like, you can.
A
We went on the Celebrity and it was. It was a. Well, we went there because my. My grandfather has to have gambling wherever he goes.
C
That would be. That would be interesting.
A
And so he went on this. He wanted the Celebrity because it had gambling. So when you go to port, you can't gamble, but when you're in the sea, you can. And so it had, like, a casino and everything in. Had very little children. Like, I saw maybe two the entire time. The pools were very chill, very not overcrowded. I thought it was great. It was not. It wasn't very, you know, rowdy. And it was.
C
It's almost a sense of. And maybe claustrophobia is not the word.
D
It is. That's exactly what it is.
C
It's a huge ship. But I still can't. You can't get off of it.
B
Yeah.
C
And there's something to be said about it.
A
You can get off of it just about daily.
D
But there's.
C
But there's a lot of. And I will sit here and say that, like, all of these things that, like, I, like, dislikes about it is probably something that I could very easily get over. If Katie was like, hey, I got four tickets going this cruise.
A
I don't know if I went ahead and bought them.
C
Like, I could get over it. I could get over it.
D
I don't care.
C
That being said, it's just like, that is really. My. Those are my things. Is like, the claustrophobia of it.
D
And like, sometimes I'll be in my office or in the house or somewhere. Sometimes I'll just be somewhere and I'll think, maybe I'm gonna have a panic attack here and I need. I gotta get out of this. I gotta get out of where I am. And I'll go outside and I'll. I can go anywhere.
C
I can leave.
A
You can get outside on a cruise ship.
D
No, you can't.
A
Yeah, you can.
D
Not at 10pm when you're in your room and you're like, I have to get off this boat.
C
But even then, like, I get off the boat, being able to go, like, walk on the deck, I think would be nice. Like, if it was, like, it would be really nice. Hey, everybody, lights out at 10. Like, oh, no.
A
With that logic, though, you can't go anywhere because it's like, you can't go. You can't get home. So it's like, oh, I could walk outside of my Airbnb at 10pm But I can't. I can't leave here. I can't get home.
D
I. I know.
C
So I guess it's more of like. It's not even that. It's like, hey, if. If it went down, we are getting hijacked by pirates or whatever. Like, I am screwed. And literally, as comical as that. Like, like, hey, I'm in the ocean if this thing goes down. Like, I'm. Yeah, I'm sinking in the ocean. And like, as comical as that is, like, that is. Is enough to be like, okay, vacation trips. Well, Cruise is probably 10th on the list.
B
Yeah.
C
Like, that's enough for me. I. I'm with all these other things I can get over. Like, I'm not a fan of public pools. You know, like a nice cruise ship or whatever. Like, we can go have adult time. Whatever. Fantastic.
B
What about.
C
It's just, you know, a trip to the Bob.
D
What is that?
B
It's in Montana. It's like a very remote wooded area. And then we could just pack horse in. It's like three days. Go see the. The wall. I think it's the wall. Chinese wall. I think. China wall.
C
I thought you meant like the north wall. No, that, like, kept the white walkers out.
A
I'm also at the point where I. If I go on a vacation and I time to be away and whatever, I want to not be with horses. Like.
D
Yeah.
A
Does that make like.
C
Yeah, you know, for sure.
A
I like, I'm like, I. I want like a. Like we're about to go to Vegas. Like, I want to not see a horse while I'm here. I get that. Like, I love them. I do. But I like. And I also need some suggestions because we're going very soon and I haven't been since I was 14 years old. Like, I went with my dad for a work conference thing. I take that back. I went to shot show one year, but we. We went for a very short amount of time.
B
You have to go to a Cirque du Soleil show.
A
That. That. Okay. So, like, we'll probably do two nights worth of stuff. Cirque du Soleil absolutely is like a have to. I don't care which one. Have to do that. Oh, I've seen Ka. I've not seen o go see O. And then I. I don't know what else to do the other night. And we're going to Evan Rebecca and I'm like, I stayed in the Venetian the last time, and I think it's so pretty with, like, the gondolas, like, in the middle and everything. But I'm like, do we. Do we branch out? Do we go somewhere else?
B
I think there's a lot of cool hotels.
A
Yeah.
B
I would look into.
A
So that's like our current vacation.
D
Yeah.
A
So do we just go to Vegas as a group? No, that's. Yeah, we can't, like.
C
Well, that's the thing. It was like you were all. You were all for the Vegas. You were all for crazy cruise. And we try to get you to go to a corn maze down the road.
A
And you were like, I wanted corn maze.
D
It was a haunted corn maze. Yeah.
C
And that is. Yeah.
D
No, she doesn't do spooky.
C
Doesn't do spooky. A haunted.
A
You cannot compare the two.
C
That's true. Have you been to New Orleans?
A
No, I have not.
C
Feel like you.
A
I would honestly.
C
You'd like New Orleans.
A
I would probably cry through it. But I like history enough that I'd probably like the ghost tour.
C
Oh, it's not scary. You like the vampire tour too.
D
Let's go do it.
C
You would like New Orleans. I don't like. It's certainly one of the places. Like, after three days, I'm like, okay, I like New Orleans during the day. Like, at night, it's just like, grab the kids, grab the wife. We gotta get to the hotel. Yeah. But other than that, it's great.
D
The food.
C
Oh, great. You would really, really like it, I think. And it's that whole, like, big, old long road.
A
Okay, where is our team building?
C
Yeah, yeah, help us out. We'll have the different locations.
A
Where are we going? Because I want to go somewhere tropical.
B
I'm down for that.
C
I'm down for that.
A
I want somewhere warm.
B
We could do that.
D
What will. We will take into the highest consideration the most liked comment. Destination.
C
Even if it's a cruise and us three will have a good time.
D
They will have a good time.
A
It cannot be international because I'm funding
C
the trip and I don't have my passport.
B
Okay.
C
National,
D
most liked comment. National destination. That's our vacation.
A
The only international way to do it would be cruise for, like, the Caribbean stuff.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
That'd be the only way.
D
More than happy with staying in the contiguous.
C
He's like, we can stay in the neighborhood. We can stay in here.
A
Let's just. Let's just have a sleepover.
D
Let's just put a tent in the gravel lot.
C
That's one thing I can't bring myself to do. Except whenever Lily's ready to do it. What, just camp in the backyard? Like, no, I just gotta go. I want to be.
D
You know what? She would love the DND house.
C
Yeah, I know. Except, gosh, one, it's in Canada. But two, you gotta. Yeah, barely. And you gotta book it freaking in advance. It's like a whole castle. DND Inspired. All right.
D
Most, like, comment. A national destination. Let's go. Let's do it.
C
I'm gonna go see if I'm having a baby.
A
Yep. Let's. Let's all put so much positivity towards Matt and Maddie for their baby. And I'm so, so excited to have another little chunky little thing that I get to squeeze every now and then because I don't see them very often.
C
But, you know, yes, we'll try to do it more other than your birthday party when 50 million people are here.
A
Anyway, thank you all for coming.
C
Thanks, Rachel.
A
See you next time.
B
Anytime.
Podcast: Katching Up With Katie
Host: Katie Van Slyke
Date: June 30, 2026
In this lively, unfiltered roundtable, Katie Van Slyke is joined by family and friends at Running Springs just after returning from the Roan World Show. The crew dives into tales from the horse show circuit, behind-the-scenes realities of ranching, and comical glimpses into farm and family life, including the ongoing anticipation of a new baby. The episode blends horse culture deep-dives, critiques of equestrian social media drama, future plans for ranch projects, and hilarious travel tangents — all with authentic Southern warmth and humor.
Timestamps: 00:00–07:15, 08:23–14:33
“It is actually open to the world… It's a newer organization, and so it was a bit smaller than, let's say, the AQHA World Show or the APHA World Show.”
— Katie (A), 00:09
Timestamps: 01:25–08:21
“Baby comes out, you cut the cord, they swab the thing. I'm trying to think of the similarities here. Past the meconium. They're not going to stand for a good 10 to 14 months… but you do need, like, skin to skin. It’s kind of like mom licking.”
— Katie (A), 05:01
Timestamps: 08:23–14:04
“The thing I was trying to get across… our breed is the American Quarter Horse. It's not that, ‘Oh, this is the American championship.’ No, the American Quarter Horse is the breed.”
— Katie (A), 13:08
Timestamps: 14:04–20:17
“As soon as… I win a trophy… I already knew there was gonna be people being like she bought that. I already knew.”
— Katie (A), 18:16
“The 13-year-old little girls are so mean… They're the meanest little horse girls…”
— Katie (A), 18:46
Timestamps: 20:03–23:15
“Dressed for the job you want, not the one you have… so he doesn’t want this job.”
— Katie (A & C), 22:39
Timestamps: 23:39–28:35
Timestamps: 28:37–34:41
Timestamps: 36:00–41:01
Timestamps: 41:04–48:08
“If I go on a vacation… I want to NOT be with horses… I love them. I do. But like, I also need some suggestions because we’re going very soon and I haven’t been since I was 14 years old.”
— Katie (A), 45:52
Timestamps: 47:59–End
“We will take into the highest consideration the most liked comment: destination.” (D, 48:14)
| Timestamp | Topic/Quote/Moment | |---------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | “Horse show hangover” opening, trophies on table | | 05:01 | Comparing foal/human newborns: “skin to skin” | | 11:09 | Roan registry, class sizes, plans to grow the show | | 13:08 | Quarter Horse breed as foundation; "World Show” semantics | | 18:16 | Expecting criticism after a win: “She bought that…” | | 18:46 | “The meanest little horse girls…” | | 22:39 | “Dress for the job you want…” suit humor | | 25:35–25:40 | “Have you bred him to Kennedy?” “That’s his mother.” | | 34:41 | “Non pro is better.” – what it means to ‘go pro’ in horse world | | 36:14 | Sip-and-sit: brainstorming a horses + podcast episode | | 45:52 | “If I go on a vacation… want to not be with horses” | | 48:14 | Call for audience trip suggestions |
This episode is a quintessential “Katching Up With Katie” blend: post-show exhaustion, honest horse talk, family shenanigans, future plans, and big laughter. Katie’s crew lifts the curtain on the joys and chaos of show seasons, the complexities of horse breeding, and the realities of being public on social media—all with an open invitation for listeners to chime in on where their next team adventure should be.
To participate: Suggest a US-based vacation spot for the crew in the comments—Katie promises they’ll consider the most popular one for their next team trip!
(Host attribution: "A" = Katie, "B", "C", "D" = Co-hosts/guests; direct speaker names used where specified.)