What Happens When No One Is Watching??

Summary

Podcast Summary: Katching Up With Katie

Episode: What Happens When No One Is Watching??
Host: Katie Van Slyke
Date: July 7, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is an honest, laid-back catch-up session with Katie Van Slyke and her friends at Running Springs. The conversation flows from sweaty Tennessee summer days and early-morning ranch routines to business updates, horse show plans, personal style evolutions, and the quirks of growing up. Listeners get an authentic peek into daily life on the farm, the camaraderie behind the scenes, and genuine reflections on identity, work-life, and what it means to grow up “on camera.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tennessee Heat & Farm Schedule Shifts (00:00–06:20)

• Extreme Heat:
  The episode opens with jokes about how “it’s the hottest week of the year” in Tennessee while Nate is still wearing a leather jacket indoors, prompting banter about “committing to the bit.”

  “Even though in Tennessee there is a heat advisory, it is the hottest week of the year. Nate is wearing a leather jacket.” – Katie (00:06)

• Early Routines:
  They discuss adapting ranch work to beat the heat, shifting chores to start at 5 or 5:30 a.m. to protect both animals and humans, which Katie says makes her feel “like a new person.”

  “My entire life I have been a stay up till 3am, sleep until 11 person... I turned 30 three weeks ago, and now I'm like, why don’t we just start at daylight?” – Katie (04:40)

• Unique Weather:
  Humidity is so intense, stepping outside “feels like walking from one shower into another.”

2. Gardening, Marigolds, & Age Lore (06:21–08:13)

• Garden Talk:
  The crew swaps tips on gardening—plants thriving or struggling, pest problems, and the joy of seeing flowers and pollinators flourish.

  “I’ll just go out there at five in the morning with my cup of coffee and my underwear and I’ll just look... did the old dad pose.” – Matt (07:29)

• Marigold Lore:
  French marigolds “stink but keep pests away,” and flower beds are celebrated for attracting bees and butterflies.

3. Local Foodie Adventures & Business Collabs (08:14–12:44)

• Catbird Seat Excitement:
  Matt and Nate score a coveted reservation at Michelin star spot The Catbird Seat, sparking discussion on exclusivity, set menus, and price (“immediately made me want to go even more” – Matt, 09:04).
• Pajama Business:
  Katie talks about her Running Springs pajama line—a sell-out hit—and the nightmare of pre-ordering, inventory, and sizing.

  “We launched pajama pants and within... four hours. They're really soft... not too heavy. They've got mayors all over them.” – Katie (11:02)

4. Thoughts on Raffles, Lotteries, and Side Hustles (12:45–15:37)

• Raffle Lore:
  The group debates the legality and fun of selling items or even houses via $10 “raffle tickets”—it’s apparently considered a lottery in most states.
• Donkeys & Dragons:
  Katie admits to entering a donkey raffle once; Matt recalls buying tickets to meet celebrity Emilia Clarke.

5. Behind the Scenes of Content Creation (15:38–17:35)

• Filming Perspectives:
  Discussion shifts to how being content creators/filmmakers changes the way they watch TV and movies—always curious about behind-the-scenes tricks.

  “It’s actually really difficult for me… as soon as I see something that makes me go, how did they do that?” – Nate (15:49)

• Coffee Habits:
  Matt humorously shares about his “sixth cup of coffee” jitters during an at-home quote, battling coffee addiction.

6. Health Kicks & Ranch Life Calendar (17:36–20:07)

• Nate’s Health Purges:
  Nate’s “clean eating” streaks are legendary; he predicts his next detox is coming “late August.”
• NSBA World Prep:
  Anticipating the NSBA World horse show, the group shares excitement about a “banging house” with a pool and describes the exhausting but fun schedule— including “night rides” for the horses (when the ring is open only at 2am!).

  “One thing y’all haven’t experienced yet, going to these horse shows with me, is night rides.” – Katie (19:15)

7. Horse Show Shopping & Cowboy Style Evolution (20:08–25:40)

• Horse Show Drip:
  Much banter about horse show “drip” (personal style)—from super-starched jeans to “old money cowboy” vibes, influenced by TV (the Dutton ranch shows, a.k.a. Yellowstone Universe).

  “I don’t want to be a little... I want to represent a little punk, you know?” – Matt (22:58)

• Fashion Aspirations:
  The hosts dream about growing into “big turquoise jewelry” and flowing gray hair, joking about at what age “gaudy” becomes legendary.

8. Stories from School & College (25:41–34:48)

• Uniform Upbringings & Awkward Adolescence:
  Katie describes her transition from high school uniforms to college style flops, Nike shorts, infinity scarves, and learning Target fashion.
• Misfit Feels & Writing Lore:
  They reminisce about being oddballs, “quiet” reputations, and Katie’s under-the-radar talent as a writer—even sharing steamy excerpts from her high school days.
• Identity and Consistency:
  Matt reflects on never having a “fixed self” and how he tends to take on new personas with each passion or project (“I haven’t known my original self probably since the sixth grade” – Matt, 34:35).

9. Sleep Habits & Awkward Social Etiquette (35:02–39:01)

• Sleeping in Jeans:
  Nate is known for this odd habit, which became a running joke among friends.
• Sleepovers & Social Dynamics:
  The crew laughs about the universal weirdness of sleeping over at someone else’s house, nervously meeting parents, and the awkwardness of witnessing other families’ arguments.

  “The only thing worse than that is being over at somebody’s house and they start like, ‘shut up mom’ and you’re like, dude…” – Matt (37:28)

10. Current Farm/Farmhouse Updates & ASMR Content (39:02–42:20)

• Horse & Farm News:
  Update on new horses at both the mini-farm and big barn; adjusting routines due to summer’s endless heat.
• Content Adaptation:
  Adapting to slow days by experimenting with “crunchy” animal ASMR videos (carrot crunches, etc.) and debating why some video types get more traction than others.

  “What if we do, like, just a few different treats, a few different animals and do crunches?” – Katie (41:02)

11. Group Therapy Show, Vulnerability, and Friendship (42:21–47:58)

• Podcast Ideas:
  Pitching a “group therapy” podcast segment—half serious, half-joke—where everyone brings up the unspoken or buried topics, perhaps with a therapist and some “sip and ride” (wine to loosen lips).
  • Running inside joke: “now I’m a half glass in, but…” justifies spilling tea (44:24).
• Alcohol Habits:
  They clarify—despite portraying wild farm life, no one’s really a big drinker. Stories swap about occasions where they have “a little paloma” or beer, but usually bedtime comes before mischief.

12. Horse Show Travel Banter & House Setup (48:00–54:14)

• Housemate Logistics:
  Playful debate over who has to share bunk beds in the big Airbnb for the NSBA World, the importance of having personal space, and the ambition to cook more group meals while on the show circuit.

13. Hand-Eye Games & Beer Pong Glory (54:15–57:58)

• Skills Showdown:
  Katie and Jonathan’s dart, ping pong, and beer pong prowess is shared—including their “bracket busting” first-seed upset at a college beer pong tournament (despite Katie never drinking).

  “We started at the bottom, won it, won the whole thing. There was 72 teams.” – Katie (56:20)

14. Horse Girl Lore & Yearbook Trolls (58:00–end)

• High School Graduation Trolls:
  Katie tells how her school trolled her at graduation, calling her “Catherine Elizabeth” and labeling her as “most likely to horse.” The crew laughs about being typecast and misunderstood by peers.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I turned 30 three weeks ago, and now I'm like, why don't we just start at daylight?” – Katie (04:40)
• “I'll just go out there at five in the morning with my cup of coffee and my underwear and I'll just look... did the old dad pose.” – Matt (07:29)
• “We launched pajama pants and within... four hours. They're really soft... not too heavy. They've got mayors all over them.” – Katie (11:02)
• “I haven't known my original self probably since the sixth grade.” – Matt (34:35)
• “One thing worse than [being left alone] is being over at somebody's house and they start like, 'shut up mom'...” – Matt (37:28)
• “We started at the bottom, won it, won the whole thing... There were 72 teams.” – Katie (56:20)
• “My school just trolled me like constantly. I was just labeled horse.” – Katie (58:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–06:20: Heat wave in Tennessee, shifting farm routines
• 06:21–08:13: Gardening, marigolds, flowers, “30s” talk
• 08:14–12:44: Catbird Seat dinner, pajama business, merchandise
• 12:45–15:37: Raffles, lottery legality, celebrity stories
• 15:38–17:35: Filming perspectives, coffee jitters
• 17:36–20:07: Clean eating, NSBA World horse show plans
• 20:08–25:40: Horse show shopping, cowboy drip, Old Money/Cowboy
• 25:41–34:48: School uniforms, fashion flops, writing steamy stories
• 35:02–39:01: Sleepovers and friend dynamics
• 39:02–42:20: Farm and horse updates, adapting content for hot days
• 42:21–47:58: Group therapy show ideas, alcohol habits
• 48:00–54:14: Trip logistics, Airbnb, travel cooking
• 54:15–57:58: Darts, ping-pong, beer pong championship story
• 58:00–end: Graduation troll stories, being labeled “horse girl”

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Overall Tone & Style

The episode is friendly, rambly, and unfiltered—full of good-natured ribbing, candid confessions, nostalgic stories, self-deprecating humor, and warmth. There is an emphasis on connection, authenticity, and finding humor in the quirks of everyday ranch and rural life. The hosts continually circle back to the realities—delights and frustrations—of building a business, a home, and a community in a setting where everyone, animals included, must adapt day-to-day.

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For New Listeners:

If you haven’t tuned in before, this episode offers an engaging jump-in point for those who want to experience the genuine camaraderie and behind-the-scenes realities at Running Springs. Katie and her crew will make you feel part of the family, especially if you appreciate southern farm life, rural business hustle, and a little bit of “horse girl” lore mixed with laugh-out-loud moments.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome back to catching up with Katie. I think this week is truly going to be a catch up kind of episode. Just what's going on? What are we about to do? What have we just done? We've just been kind of yapping the past couple of weeks. Gotten off on some wild tangents. And I would like to point out that even though in Tennessee there is a heat advisory, it is the hottest week of the year. Nate is wearing a leather jacket. Jacket.

[B]

And I would like to point out that it's approximately 63 degrees in this room. It at the current time.

[A]

It is.

[C]

I was wearing a jacket on the last one as well.

[A]

It is chilly. Little chill. But he committed to the bit after Matt showed him up last week.

[B]

It ain't a competition. We're just trying to elevate.

[A]

I ain't never seen that page boy hat you got on.

[B]

Making a collection.

[A]

Is it new?

[B]

It's a Cracker Barrel special.

[A]

Cracker Barrel, Page boy, Cracker Barrel.

[C]

Oh, no, you're serious.

[B]

And Walmart's drip has gone.

[C]

Oh, I knew the Walmart lore.

[B]

But Cracker Barrel, every once in a while, at least the one in Cookville, they'll have. I've gotten two of these from Cracker Barrel.

[C]

Really?

[B]

And I would like more new.

[A]

Can I be that person? You gotta really talk into your mic.

[B]

Can you hear me?

[A]

You're the person. Like, like the whole.

[B]

I already know. I already know. I edited the last one.

[A]

I'm just. Before we get a little.

[B]

I also talk really soft too, and mumble. So I'm trying to not do that either. Look at my stuff.

[A]

Private.

[B]

I could have had a text message up there. Lily. Now we're inducing next Monday.

[C]

What do you mean next Monday? This Monday or next five days from now? Yeah. You're not going another week and a half, are you?

[B]

I think that's a lot. Maybe it's either next Monday or the Monday after this. Coming.

[A]

She's already 39 weeks. It has to be this Monday, the 13th.

[C]

What? Rings of 13th.

[B]

Oh, well, 13th is like. But they couldn't get her in the induction. If she shows up, obviously they're going to do it. But they couldn't get her in the induction until like then. But that's like last call. They're worried that the baby's getting a little too big for her. Her tiny little body. So that's like last straw. Like if you don't have it by then, then we're taking it out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So like I said, it's a heat wave here. In Tennessee, I think it's a heat wave kind of across the south, but, and you know, I don't know other state lore and their weather, but here you could literally just like walk outside and like now, tonight with the weather, cut the air. Yeah. Give us the. What, what does the humidity look like for that kind of weather where you get out of a hot shower and you walk into another hot shower anytime you just like walk out the door.

[C]

Humidity is certainly 80% or higher, which is not what you, that's when you start experiencing the outer shower.

[B]

Like it's not a joke.

[A]

You know, you, you both showed up and look so nice and put together and I'm like, I've been outdoors since 5am and have just been drenched.

[C]

Yeah, no, it's, it's brutal out there right now.

[B]

It only takes five minutes walking outside.

[A]

I just walked in probably seven minutes ago and we were at the barn. My back is still like this 63 degree room. I'm like a little shivery because my back is stopping wet. But we've been kind of altering our schedule and I think I'm a new person.

[C]

I'm a big, you like the morning.

[B]

Big morning, big early morning person.

[A]

I think I'm a new person. But my problem is so for backstory, we all decided for the animal's health, for our health, we're, we're not on a set schedule as far as like a feeding schedule or whatever. So let's just start earlier. Let's just do like 5 to 5:30 until like 2. Like we come in from the outdoors by 10 or 11 and then we're in editing and doing office stuff and, and like that until like two. And so I've, I've been, I've been really liking it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The problem is I don't go to bed earlier.

[B]

Right.

[C]

That, that's the only problem with this system is not going to bed.

[A]

I went to bed at one o' clock the first two nights, which is my norm. And then last night I, I made myself go to sleep at midnight. And so it'll hit me at some, it'll hit me at some point. But I'm trying to get the girls on this new train.

[C]

It's, it's the best because I'm like,

[A]

even in the winter it gets dark so early. I'm like, we just need to start earlier. Is this what 30 is?

[C]

Yes. Wow. You just found it. This is what it is.

[A]

I, I turned 30. Mind you, my entire life I have been a stay up till 3am, sleep until 11 person. Like, I love being up at night all night long. I'm super productive, honestly. And I can sleep forever. And I get like, this is not me. And I turned 30 three weeks ago, and now I'm like, why don't we just start at daylight?

[C]

I mean, there was no pushback on that 6am time. It was just like, yeah, let's do it.

[A]

When we did the mini horses.

[C]

Yes. I was. I was. I was like, well, let's say six. It'll probably.

[A]

Because usually when I'm like, guys, let's do an early morning. And they're like, okay, what? And I'm like, 8:30.

[B]

I'm up at 8:30. Anyway, y' all be here at 8:30 and we'll start when we start. Not anymore. I mean, it's.

[C]

Gosh.

[B]

I mean, it's hot. It is freaking hot.

[A]

And that's the hard part with animals is, you know, we're still trying to train, we're still trying to get content, meaning they have to have some sort of personality and life in them. It's just so hot. To the point where from 9am until 7pm everyone is just miserable.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And just like. So I already rode Ricky this morning. I already rode Shelby. I. I was there with Rebecca while her little girls got a lesson. I've already made six videos.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What time is it? It's.

[C]

It's 10 on the dot.

[A]

10 on the dot. So we. Yeah, I. I really like it. This is.

[C]

Yeah, I'm excited about.

[A]

I'm an adult now.

[B]

I'm a big time having to put a shade cloth on the garden.

[A]

A shade cloth.

[B]

Shade cloth.

[A]

What are you growing in there?

[C]

Yeah, what are you growing?

[B]

Cucumbers, okra, cabbages, corn, tomatoes, peppers, herbs, Lavender.

[A]

I've been decently successful with flowers. I have never been successful with tomatoes.

[B]

And this is my first time doing a flower garden.

[A]

Herbs. Let me just say I have not touched my herb garden in three years and that. That bad boy's still going. That bad boy is yielding.

[C]

So the herbs are good.

[B]

Herbs are great. I actually just made pickles for the first time the other day. Going to see how those turn out here shortly. I also am having a problem with cucumber beetles, though. So if any of you gardeners out there know the things other than me,

[A]

they'll be in the comments. They'll help you.

[B]

This is my first year I've had. Last year it was the aphids on my tomato plants. But I have, like, so strategically planted, like, herbs and whatnot that are pest. Controlling and for specific beds. And like, it's great. This is the best crop I've ever had. Ever. So my second garden, but this is the best drop I've ever had.

[A]

It's the second one, but it's better.

[B]

Like, I'll just go out there at five in the morning with my cup of coffee and my underwear and I'll just look, you know, did the old dad pose and just.

[C]

Gosh.

[A]

So okay. Am I wrong in saying that? And this would make it a little beautiful too. Marigolds apparently keep, you know, French marigolds and step away. But they stink.

[B]

French marigolds do. I don't have the French marigold ones, so they don't as stinky. Helpful. But they do look pretty. And I do have a designated flower garden this time for pollinators. And it's just so. Like, I have so many bees, so many butterflies. Like, it's just.

[A]

He's not 30 yet, but he's there.

[B]

I like, I've been 30 for like the last five years. I mean, it's just. This is like.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

I literally, literally love it. I've had my neighbors come over and give me compliments.

[A]

What a rush.

[B]

I mean, oh my God, what a rush. Speaking of a rush. And this is just a little something I'll throw in there for bragging rights. Nate and I yesterday got a reservation at the Catbird Seat.

[A]

What is that?

[C]

Very excited about it.

[B]

The Michelin star restaurant here in Nashville. And so we have always wanted to go to Michel star restaurant. We seriously thought about it. And the only reason deserve it. It's not.

[C]

No, no, you would.

[B]

It's that you wouldn't.

[C]

Wouldn't do it.

[A]

I know. That's what I'm saying. I don't deserve a seat at that table.

[C]

You just actually wouldn't eat.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Because you don't order.

[C]

You know, it's a set menu.

[B]

It's a nightmare. Exactly.

[C]

Your nightmare.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Nightmare.

[B]

We thought about it like. Like, because like, comparatively like the price. It's like it was $100 for per seat to reserve it to get.

[C]

To make the right.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Which is ridiculous. But immediately made me want to go even more. I was like, how exclusive. But like the menu, like the dinner is like. Is a set price of like $200. Which overall, like, do they do a wine pairing separate and stuff. Like, you know, you pay for all that. That's where they get you. I'm sure. But like, all in all, it's really not that like where we ate before the comedy show. I felt like, you know, of course there was like. Yeah, there was quite a few people, but like probably same price point, right?

[C]

The same price point. But you get to pick what you.

[B]

The fancy evening and the reservations go out really, really, really quick. Like I had to call at 12 o' clock when it opened for Are

[A]

your wives Michelin star eaters?

[B]

I think my story.

[C]

I think mine would be. So. Macy was actually a designer on the, on the restaurant.

[A]

His wife is so cool. They're. They're both so cool. They both have their own niches that they're so good at, which is awesome. I love when people like throw themselves into a passion and are good at it.

[C]

So I'm, I'm really excited to see her that what stuff she picked out and stuff like that.

[A]

She also. I'm really excited out of the goodness of her heart. And you know, we were just. It's just kind of like this wall.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Things just don't get done. We have all the intentions and so we have a little space here in the shop that we really want to make into an office. And we, we just had all the intentions of shopping and, and creating this space. And finally I was like, Macy, please make me a space. I'm excited to see that come together.

[B]

The PJs are the, are the coolest thing, I think.

[C]

Oh, yeah. She. There's a pajama company in my Sundays and she's done quite a few designs of those pajamas as well.

[A]

You know, I know somebody else who is coming out with pajama stuff that might need to hit her up.

[B]

That would be cool. I would get.

[C]

I would wear good.

[B]

I would wear some running springs. PJs.

[C]

These are really.

[A]

Did. You know we did that?

[B]

You know we did that.

[A]

We like. Well, they've just sold out so fast. It hasn't been to everyone yet. Like, we. I, I launched pajama pants and within I think were they still four hours. They're. They're like, they're really soft. They're really soft. They're not too heavy, are they?

[C]

Kind of like the stretchy cotton. What's it. What does it feel like?

[A]

It's poly rayon. I should have. No, I should know this because I just did like a whole ad about it. My brain is. No, they're, they're like. I would say they are geared more towards like a fall. A fall PJ pant. They're. They're like. They're really, really soft, really fuzzy. They've got mayors all over them. Like we Did a mayor design.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And so they sold out in like four hours. And everyone's like, when are they back?

[B]

Not cutesy. They're more like.

[A]

They're. They're more like they're cute. Like they're cute. They're cute.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Not like Christmas pj, whatever. More like they.

[A]

But they have like a probably like a springy type of. Type of vibe. But I sold out so fast that even subscribers were like, get them back.

[C]

Yeah, come back.

[A]

And so we did a big order in a warehouse. We do. That's the thing. We just, we've never done this before where we're like ordering beforehand. And we've never, like, ordering stuff with sizes is super difficult. So it's one thing if we're like, okay, we're gonna order 4,000 coloring books or whatever. And then, you know, sometimes they sell out or sometimes we just have them in the store. Well, with pants, it's like, how many smalls do we order? How many larges? How many 4x sizes everybody struggles with.

[C]

Okay, we're talking. This is totally in an entirely different direction than pajamas. But you're talking about like pre ordering things.

[A]

It's a nightmare. It's so hard.

[C]

And I can't remember what I was reading, but it was something along those lines. But with a house. So what if you could sell your house this way? I don't even know if you can, but you basically just like, I'm going to pay $10 for like a raffle and I'm going to say, okay, I'm going to sell my house for. I need to get $300,000. So, hey, you can buy my house for $10. We're just going to do a drawing. If I sell X amount of tickets, we go through with it. If not, you're refunded. But you go, I'll pay $10 for a chance at a house, maybe make 600,000.

[B]

So that's considered possible.

[A]

It's considered a lottery.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And it's illegal in a lot of states.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Foil the plan.

[A]

Raffles are illegal in a lot of states because people. I see people on, on Facebook do that constantly for horses. They'll be like, and it depends. Sometimes it's okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But sometimes they'll be like, hey, we have 50 spots for 50 bucks a piece.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

To win this Futurity 2 year old. Or like, whatever. And people do it. Yeah, I did it for a donkey one time. I didn't win.

[C]

Well, it's just like, what is that, $2,500 100?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Is that right?

[A]

50 times 50.

[B]

Is it thousand?

[C]

25.

[A]

25,000.

[C]

Thousand. Yeah.

[B]

I didn't want to be stupid,

[C]

but,

[A]

like, it'll be like that, or they'll be like, a hundred dollars, but it's this super whatever. And they'll do, like. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I did that one time for a chance to meet Amelia Clark. She was having, like. It was like, the season eight, like, episode, like, this final episode or whatever. Like, watch party or whatever. You can, like, pay 100. I don't even want to know I say what I paid, like, or how many chances I bought to. To. Because this was right out of deployment. This was at the end of my deployment. I was just about to come home. So I was, like, very single. And, like, she was obviously.

[A]

I had.

[B]

I had to get married at some point. So Daenerys Targaryen will do shooting his shot. Oh, wait. I mean, I had it all worked out. The winning was just a. That was just whatever. Like, I already had, like, what I was gonna do when I got there, what I was gonna wear, like, winning.

[A]

What was it? Give us the plan.

[B]

But I didn't win, actually. Some girl from, like, Philadelphia won, but

[A]

she didn't deserve it.

[B]

Had a whole dinner. It was like. It was like. There was a dinner, a watch party. I just couldn't imagine. I used to think she was so cool. Like, that was, like, the last time. Like, I was really big on watching, like, behind the scenes. Like, watching what these people do in their personal lives and what. I don't think I've ever.

[A]

Y' all watch TV shows or movies?

[B]

That was the last one I watched.

[A]

Wanting to be filmmakers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you watch it from that perspective versus just watching a TV show.

[C]

Yeah, it's. It's actually really difficult for me.

[B]

I can't watch. It has to be good. But, like, that's what I look for, is something that I can, like, turn this off instead of being like, oh, this sucks.

[C]

Because the problem is, as soon as I see something that makes me go, how did they do that?

[A]

You're.

[B]

You're locked in, like, anime so much is. Because, like, I'm not worried about that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I don't expect any of this to be, like, you know, feasible.

[C]

Sometimes they'll be. It'll be like a mirror shot, and the camera will, like, go through the mirror into the next room, and I'm like, how did they do that? Back it up. Back it up.

[A]

The funny thing is, you know, I don't know if you can tell. We Sat down today because we just needed to film this. And we were like, so what are we.

[B]

And I had all my coffee drink probably before she got the intro out.

[A]

So what are we chatting about today? Yeah, I have drink my coffee as well.

[B]

That's actually a funny story too, is I had a guy, like, coming over to quote me some windows for my house. And I'm a nerd. Like, not nervous, but, like, I'm a. I guess a nervous fiddler. Whether it's like. So, like, I'm sitting here talking to this guy about. And I didn't realize that. That I'm like, I'm on my sixth cup of coffee, like, within, like. Cause I'm just talking and whatnot. I need to have something to do with my hands. So it's like, you know, I'm just. Well, just go fill up another cup or whatever and keep talking. Go fill up another cup and keep talking. He left, and I was just, like,

[A]

sweating and, like, it was.

[B]

It was a bad situation. I was like, whoa. And then my wife was like, yeah. I was like, did you not notice him looking at you oddly, like, when you went back for, like, your fourth cup? Anyway? Yeah, and that's kind of where I'm at now. This death wish stuff is.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Jonathan refuses to have normal coffee.

[B]

Well, that's what happens when you drink coffee all the time, is. It doesn't work. I need a coffee detox is what I need.

[A]

Speaking up. So every now and then, Nate just decides to be completely unattainably clean eating and clean drinking and whatever. And, like, no caffeine, no sugar, no whatever. When are we getting back to that? When's your next run?

[C]

If I'm just guessing, based off of my current mental state, I would probably say late August. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm coming.

[B]

I've got.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

We talked about this not too long ago.

[C]

It could be really soon. I just started signed up for some. It's called, like, rhythm or something. Maybe you've seen ads, especially, like, a blood test. You do it at home and you send it in. You can do one of them.

[A]

I could never do that to myself.

[C]

Well, no, it's. It's not. It's like a little patch that sticks to your arm. You just hit the button and it just fills up a little thing. You send it on, like. So I'm like, okay, well, I can. I can get my blood work done every month. I may get the first one. I think as soon as the first one comes back, whatever it says Even it says, everything's all good. I'll go, oh, we got to keep it there. And then that's when it'll start.

[A]

So something to think about. NSBA World is in August, so we're going for a long time. We're there for quite a while now. We have, like, a banging house. Okay. We have a sick house with a pool. We're going to make the best of it. It's going to be a really fun time. Because when you go for somewhere that long, I mean, how long?

[B]

10 days.

[A]

If you don't have a good place to stay, it just really sucks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And so we'll have a little bit of downtime, but like I said in the last episode, like, we have, like, the potential for 10 classes that my horse. That my horses will be showing. And I won't be showing you that many.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But my horses at least. And so one of the things that y' all haven't experienced yet, going to these horse shows with me is night rides.

[C]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[A]

So at these big horse shows where there's specific arenas and the horse show goes from 8am sometimes until, like, late. The only time that you can get your horse in that arena is in the middle of the night. And so they have scheduled, like, sections. They'll be like, okay, Western riders, they can come in from midnight to 2:00am and then, okay, the hunter on our saddle horses can come in from two to four or, like, whatever. And so we're gonna have to do that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, we probably won't make everybody get up. It'll probably be like, hey, I need one.

[C]

I'll be pretty loud.

[A]

I need one, buddy.

[B]

And it doesn't matter because if I'm like, if I'm up, I'm up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Might as well go.

[C]

We're up. Everybody's up.

[A]

Well, it'll probably just like, literally be me, Stephanie, and, like, probably Rachel and. No, no, no, no, no.

[C]

I. I'll at least go ask him. Did y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Y' all were.

[B]

Sorry.

[C]

Sorry, Did y' all say you were wanting to go?

[B]

We're about to leave.

[A]

And, like, so we'll do that. Because, I mean, every time that you've gone to Congress with me, the world show, we're just there watching.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We're not participating, you know, and so

[B]

certainly not in the middle of the

[A]

night at the Congress. And. Well, like, we'll. We'll have to do nights. Night rides.

[B]

Well, there's also more shopping. There's. I'm pretty excited about these next.

[C]

I'm Excited about the big ones.

[B]

The big ones. I gotta go see my homies at Brinks Hattery. Yeah, that wasn't a shout out. But I just.

[A]

We're also shorties. Cowboy hattery people as well.

[B]

Yeah, just.

[C]

I want to go.

[B]

They have like the.

[C]

I have a shorty's.

[B]

They were just saying they're big. Their big booth. Like the last few horse shows they

[A]

have this where you're gonna have one made.

[B]

No, but why not? Because like what I want is like, you know, they may not have like. Like usually for shows like that they bring like, you know, set stock or whatever. They can give you like three or four different options.

[A]

Because I've seen them make some really cool custom stuff and they may.

[B]

They may like. That's why I want to go. Because they said like at that show

[A]

is where they have also your birthday and you. You both get like a present while we're at hore shows.

[C]

Cuz mine's in August. That's true. Which is a hore show month. And so.

[A]

Which is why he got his cowboy hat.

[C]

That's when I got my hat.

[B]

Yeah, I paid for my own though.

[C]

But it wasn't your birthday.

[B]

No, I also got. I also got a cool jacket and to this day, like that jacket that you got me for my birthday has been like my favorite article of clothing I have ever. Yeah, I'll wear it. It's a. That is a like a September through March wear buddy. If it's like below 80, like I'm, you know, it's. It's at least out.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. That J is so great.

[A]

And then the 11 year we went. I got you that. That vest.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

No, that is a limited time wear. But that's also great. It's very like I'm. I'm switching my style, I think into more horse showy vibe. Like just got some, you know, switching the jeans, getting out of the skinny jean vibe.

[A]

Oh, are you okay? If you.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I feel like the last horse show we got some great. Like that one store we went to that like we really like cleaned house at where we got the boots. Like.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If you go full horseshoe drip, are you gonna go like super starched jeans? No, no.

[B]

Because I have to be a little punk, you know? Yeah, cowboy punk.

[A]

But that's like pin that. I think that is like no one starches their jeans anymore. It's like so you.

[C]

You would stand out.

[A]

Yeah, but no, it's like the crease

[B]

and it looks great. It's just like what I Want to represent. Whenever I go to the horse show is a little punk, you know, not. I don't want to be a little.

[A]

So what is horse show punk? Like black nails?

[B]

No, I feel like this is a little like. Like you know, it's not horse show

[C]

punk, but maybe it's. Maybe it's horse show. Europe horse show.

[B]

You're like Europe, like banana Republic is my jam. Like you know, anything, anything like anything old. Old. I guess that's what I mean by horse show. Like you know, paper boy hats. Give me some Henley's, give me some, some boot cut jeans.

[A]

So that is. I was. I would say that's just like a put together type of look. I feel like horse show to me because of the types of horse shows that I go to is like you're wearing a cowboy hat.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And starch jeans and you know, square toed boots and.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like a belt buckle.

[C]

You think more along the line Hollywood went horse show. Like a European GQ horse show. European cowboy. Old money.

[B]

Yeah, old money was the word I was looking for. Old money cowboy. I see those reels all the time. That's. That's why I love Banana Republic.

[A]

So I've only watched like couple episodes of that Dutton ranch show. Like the new Yellowstone spin off. But there is a lady now she's the villain. The old lady, she's the villain. But I aspire like she.

[B]

Her drip.

[A]

Like she always has like a big old squash blossom, a Gucci jacket. Like a.

[B]

She looks like she's in horse show drip all the time.

[A]

She. They are. Yes, they are.

[C]

They're. They're big horse people on the show.

[A]

That is horse show.

[B]

I know and I feel like I've seen it all through. Like I've seen the whole thing just on YouTube shorts. But like I am picking up a lot like their. Like they're actually like they're doing the thing. Like they're doing hore show stuff.

[A]

They're do. Yeah, they do. Like from what I've understood, like raining and all of a sudden but still the same by the way. Never mind. We'll come back to that in a private manner.

[C]

Okay. Yeah. Old. Old money cowboy. Yeah.

[B]

I think that lady has the, the craziest drip. I love the gloves. I like the very.

[A]

I'm just.

[B]

I knew a lady like that one time.

[A]

I never. I don't aspire to be like a old lady who is like very subdued and like, like an old hand. Like. No, I like. I don't want like a, A quiet style. Like I want to be like, you can't see my fingers.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because of the turquoise.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I want my gray hair to be down to my waist in. You know what I'm saying? Like, right. We're going gaudy. We're going to. Yeah, that's me. I'm not there yet. Like, we're just. We're. We're very small right now, but.

[B]

Well, you've got. Think of what you.

[C]

Yeah, I feel like, you know, you can't really get.

[A]

We gotta build to that, you know?

[C]

At what age does, like, gaudy start being, like, your 50s? I was gonna say, like, 45 would be like. Because if you went super gaudy now, it'd be like more of an eyesore.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Once you hit, like, though, it's like, oh, you know she's doing it. Yeah.

[A]

Like, she don't care.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

She's just doing her, like.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

There's a certain standard of meeting with everybody else up to that point.

[A]

Yeah. I already feel like I don't really care about current fashion trends. Like, I just kind of wear whatever I want.

[B]

But I cared a lot more in high school. And of course, everybody, I'm sure, can say this, but I feel like I look back and like, dude, like, stupid.

[A]

I wore a uniform my whole life, and so when I went to college, missed that. I did not know how to dress whatsoever.

[C]

I feel like I'm team uniform, though.

[A]

I. It was amazing. I would wear Nike shorts and a T shirt, and I'd drive to school every day and I would literally just put my skirt on and my polo over what I was wearing. And then I didn't have to think about it, you know, I would love that. It was amazing. I will say that, like, I. I very much enjoyed that. But then I got to college and was like, oh, my. My out of school clothing involves Bermuda shorts from Tractor Supply and some shirts that just were not.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Of the times. And my college roommate, bless her, Ashley, was like, hey, let's go to Target and just do a little. Little revamp.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then I went full Target. Then I was like, I am Target. Because that was. They had all the.

[B]

Which is not a bad thing.

[A]

They had all the cold shoulder shirts. This was what year would have been 2014? 2015. I was full. 2015. I was full, like, like always. Skinny jeans with my fry boots and this, like, huge infinity scarves and, like, the statement necklaces. Oh, my God, Bring it back. I loved it.

[C]

Were you a Nike shorts, too?

[A]

Big shirt, girl, big shirt, Nike shorts, tube socks. That Were like. I don't know what they're called. Like the. Yeah, yeah. With tennis shoes or Birkenstocks.

[C]

Yeah. I remember the Nike shorts era.

[A]

I did go through a phase. I've never been cool in my life. Like a part of the cool crowd in my life. Except for about a year in college.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I fit in for about a year. Shouldn't have done that.

[C]

And then they kick and then you'd.

[A]

And yes.

[C]

Is that why you stopped fitting in?

[A]

Because I wasn't allowed back. He's bringing up that I was kicked out of college.

[B]

Oh, yeah,

[A]

yeah. Because it took me about a year to settle in.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Sophomore year. Cool girl. They still didn't like me because I wouldn't drink and stuff. But as far as like the fits, you know, aesthetics. Yeah, you look the part I did

[B]

was that kid that never wore shorts in school. Never. I got made fun of for my hairless legs one time when I was in like the third grade by Ally Murphy, I believe her name was, and never forgot about it.

[A]

I hope she's in the comments. Well, she knows how she's affected you.

[B]

It. I'm talking like, changed my. Altered my whole life. Like, I went to like, started reading magazines about, like hair care. Like, like, like that's where it all started for me.

[A]

You know what's funny? Would you describe me as like a quiet person?

[B]

In what way?

[A]

Personality wise?

[C]

No, no, I don't think so.

[A]

Because that's how I was like, perceived middle school and high school. Because in what way?

[B]

I mean, like, if you were really

[A]

hard and like belly laughed at something and I think I'm gonna just call. I think it was Grant Mason made fun of me so hard that I

[C]

just like, that was it.

[A]

That was it. But also there was a lot of things I deserved to be made fun of for.

[C]

Yeah, one thing that I.

[A]

But that I just was like. And like in my head I'm like, I knew I wasn't a quiet person. I knew that I was like. Like you probably.

[B]

Quiet person's like strange. Like in a strange group, you know?

[A]

Nu. Maybe. But I don't know.

[B]

Maybe more 10 years ago than now.

[A]

Yeah. And I. I just knew that I wasn't that person. And so one day it clicked. I was in like a home EC class or something and someone referred to how quiet I was and they were like, well, no, you're a quiet per. I'm like, I. Oh, like, like it was funny. But I was like a sophomore, a junior in high school, and I was like, oh, that's how I'm perceived here. Got it.

[C]

In the same era is when you were riding a lot W R I

[A]

T I N G oh, junior year. Yeah, that kicked up.

[C]

I'm just imagining like you get made fun of really hard about hahaha and then you become this quiet person but you also have like this struggling inner monologue of like, you know, you're masking. I've always liked the person I really am. It's got to come out somehow.

[A]

No. Because the things that I was writing

[B]

were nothing about the demon Lord what ain't gonna express myself on planet. And I want you to know, I want to clear the air that I am never making fun of you whenever I bring this up because I think it is something that is one of your more respectable lore facts and I wish it is something that I wrote that you wrote, that you write. I don't think that it's over. I think that there are still pages being written that and the. Just the open arms to D and D is like that's what I. That's the side I want to tap into. It's like, you know, the off camera side.

[A]

Not we're not going to get into what I read to you, but there is a little snippet in the last horse show video where it shows me out in the open why we were doing it so publicly. I don't know.

[B]

For the adrenaline rush.

[A]

I was reading an excerpt from a story that I had written and I chose a. A very steamy, steamy sure scene to read to them and it was great. I wish there was footage of you because you were on your knees like this

[B]

spicy like.

[A]

And I, I would say something.

[B]

He go, there's a reason why we can't do that in D and D. She's like, all right, well I'm going to roll to do this and I'm going to rol.

[C]

Oh,

[A]

That was that era. Like I was writing that story at that time. And like I did have some girlfriends that I think were also considered quiet. I think they were also in that niche and they would read it chapter by chapter in the mornings. And I don't think they were the crowd for that book. But you know, bless them for.

[C]

Were they?

[A]

Bless them for supporting.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know.

[C]

Did you ask them, will you read my new chapter?

[A]

And well then they got, they were like, let me read it. But then they, you know, I went to a Church of Christ school and you know, it's. It was very. Some kids were wild, but some kids were just like very Straight and narrow. And I got, I was definitely, like, in with the straight and narrow crowd. Still am. I think I still am. But, like, my book was not your out.

[B]

Your expressive outlet took the reader to

[A]

places that they just never imagined. I don't know how we got here. Let's get off.

[C]

We're talking about because what you were known for.

[A]

I think no one else knew that, though. It was just my little.

[C]

Right, right.

[B]

Talking about school stuff. And I have envy for people that can just have that about themselves and, like, still have, like, their character. Like, I feel like you two have, like, characters that you don't ever sway from. You can, you can be Nathan Perry and decide to go on a diet or decide to quit coffee or whatever. You can be Katie Van Slack and still have some, like, secret smut thing or whatever. It's like. But like, for me, like, if I was like, decided I was going to write smut, like, it would change my whole. Like, I would change the way I dressed. I would change the way I freaking, you know, like, operated my day. Like, I have to, like, do a full character swap and, like, whatever. If I'm going to be a camera guy, like, I'm gonna have to start dressing like a camera guy. Start doing vibes and things with a camera guy. Like, what, what do they say? What do they do? That's my thing. That's my curse. I haven't known my original self probably since the sixth grade.

[A]

Wow, we're really, we're deep diving here. We're, we're getting to know Matthew Austin Turpin.

[B]

Nobody has no, I don't know myself anymore. I think that's the point that we're getting at and we can explore this.

[A]

Maybe that's why you, like, dnd you get to be whoever you want.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's a, it's a break of the ever impending crushing weight of not realizing who I am. It's just like, okay, I don't have to be anymore. Yeah.

[A]

So, Nate, you look like you had a school story.

[C]

I, I got known for somehow. And I don't know how big the circle was. Sleeping in jeans. I, I, it just became a thing that people would. You sleep in jeans sounds like an insult.

[A]

It does it?

[C]

Maybe it was like somebody sleeping jeans, but I did.

[A]

It sounds like I did sleep in jeans. Like a inside joke or they're saying something else to you, but they're like, oh, you sleep in jeans. But they're really, like, saying something worse.

[C]

Well, you know, you'd have, you'd go over To a buddy's house, stay the night. And I would just fall asleep, But I wouldn't, like, put on nighttime clothes or anything.

[B]

Oh, yeah, no, yeah, for sure.

[C]

So I just would sleep, and they'd be like, you slept in your jeans?

[A]

I used to sleep in jeans when I was, like, skinny, and it didn't

[C]

hurt, and I was like, yeah. And then it just became a thing of, like. I don't know how you do it, sleeping in jeans. And it just became a thing that I was sleeping in jeans.

[A]

Teenager, like, vernacular. I don't know.

[B]

Hey, I can. I can see it. It's like. But it was always such, like, a different world. Going over to somebody's house, like, in school, it's just like, oh, like, this is. That you can't. You, like, it's just like, you feel like your way of operating and living is, like, universal. And so, like, you know, if somebody else.

[C]

No.

[A]

Other people's houses, they're all so different.

[B]

So, like.

[A]

Like, their bare minimum rules are hilarious. Like, it. Yeah, I hate it.

[B]

I hate it now more than ever. I'm becoming a. I'm regressing.

[A]

I was definitely the house that was like, you want to come over here? My mom said that you could sleep over here, but I. I can't come to your house. Like, and as an adult, I completely understand.

[B]

But, yeah, I didn't want it.

[A]

I didn't get to go to a lot of people's houses.

[B]

Yeah, I was ashamed. I wasn't ashamed of my parents, but I didn't want them to, like, think my dad was weird. My dad was weird. Um, he's that guy that would come up to, like, while everybody's hanging out the couch and just stand there and look at the couch. What are y' all doing, dad? Or just stand there.

[C]

I feel like there's. There's not a whole lot more awkward than, like, when you. You go over to a friend's house, and then they have to go do something, and then you somehow. You're, like, there by yourself.

[B]

One thing will raise that. And I hate to be the guy to want.

[C]

No, please.

[B]

One thing, and I'll buddy remember it specifically. I'm not gonna say names, but the only thing worse than that is being over at somebody's house, and they're. He starts like, shut up, mom. And you're like, dude, all the time. I had a buddy.

[A]

You're like, I didn't.

[B]

Growing up all the time. I stayed at his house. Indeed. Him and his parents would just like. And I was like, for sure. Like, mew and I have the same kind of like, I'm. I'm like. I guess I wouldn't say more worldly, but I have just certainly seen more things. And like, at that time, like, that was like, I thought my mom was going to come, like, hear that and come over here and beat me just for like being an association with it. But like, like, he would be like, we'd always go down there and play or whatever. And his mom would come down and say something. He would just immediately, damn, like, do it. Like, you always do this crap. And it's just like. And then she start yelling and the dad start yelling. So you can do is just sit there with your hands maybe. You know, I don't care to eat dinner right now. Like, we can play, like, we can play PlayStation later. Like, no, dude, you came all the way over and then you're in it. Matt came over here to do this. I have freaking friends. It's really fine.

[C]

I can do it. You're like, no, it's like, sit down. We are playing the game.

[B]

That's the only thing works.

[C]

Yeah. You know, you feel like you're like, I'm thirsty. I'm gonna go. You go open the fridge. And like. Like, I'm stealing.

[B]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[C]

Like, I never thought of it that way.

[B]

I cannot do anything if I'm in somebody else's house by myself. Know, I gotta ask to go to the bathroom. I gotta ask to like, can I get a glass of water?

[C]

I'm gonna go sit in the chair. And I'm just gonna like, they've gotten

[A]

past that since coming to my house.

[B]

Yeah, well, I've been at your house collectively more than I've stayed at any friend's house ever in my life.

[C]

And. And labels were put on things that said community, which was a big help

[B]

when that is true.

[C]

Yeah. Well, there's one on the.

[A]

Well, there's just a fridge.

[C]

Yeah, but.

[A]

But somehow the feed. These are never in that fridge.

[C]

They are never in that fridge.

[B]

I never drink Fiji water, by the way.

[C]

Icelandic. The new move.

[A]

So we kind of got off on tangents again, as we always do. But I did say at the very beginning that we were gonna basically just do an. An overview of. Of what's going on and what's to come. And so the last. The last week or two, there's been a lot happening. Like just. Just like horsey things, you know, like we got that new horse, which I think the day that we're filming this, it went up on YouTube. So if you haven't watched it, go watch. There's new horses galore at both the mini farm and the big barn, and they're just been settling in the heat. The. You know, we just got back from the horse show, and just. Just. This is the time of year where it is. It's becoming. Not the lull. It used to be, like, a real lull.

[B]

I know, boy.

[C]

It used to be a lull.

[A]

It used to be a real lull, and we just don't have that anymore. So, like, yesterday was the first day that I started kind of clamoring for. For things to do because it was so hot. And so I started doing the ASMR crunches. You know how we said in the last video, we're like, y' all hate the. The dove hunt video? Y' all hate our ASMR videos?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, okay, we haven't done one a long time. What if I. I don't whisper? I think people hate me whispering, but we do. This is what you. The text message that you ignored last night. I was like, what if we do, like, just a few different treats, a few different animals and do crunches and do, like, a video just of different treats and how they sound and whatever. I mean, it works for other people. Other people like doing ASMR things. Why doesn't it work for us?

[B]

I think ASMR is something that especially has its own niches and amongst its niche, like, certain people love that, but hate that.

[A]

Oh, we just lost so many people with that. Yeah. I.

[B]

So, you know, different. Maybe people hate whispering but love crunches.

[A]

A video yesterday with carrot crunches, and I made it kind of like a. A little competition between horses. That's the thing. Sometimes there's so much going on in a day, I don't have to think we're just filming what's going on. And we have 16 videos. Like, there's been a long stint of the last couple months where I'm posting 14 to 16 videos a day. It's just freaking crazy. But, like, yesterday I was like, oh, it worked. It took a lot to get to 11, which is still alive, but it's still a lot. But I had to, like, kind of think and be like, what can we do? It's too hot to do anything. And the. The animals aren't naturally doing anything because it's freaking hot. So, like, what do we do? And so that's what I. I thought of. I was like, well, we could do, like, a YouTube version of that in

[B]

here for Days like that start getting deep with.

[A]

With who?

[B]

The people. Just. Just hit record and just. Just let it out. Now here's catching up with Katie. This is what I've been struggling with this week. What's really been hard.

[C]

I still want. I want to do the therapy session.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I want to do a finger paint. No, no, no, no. I had the idea, remember, of group therapy. Yeah. It's like a group therapy podcast. And I. I don't.

[A]

I just think everyone's gonna get their feelings hurt.

[C]

No. Why?

[B]

Nate said no.

[A]

I'm just, like, staring at you like,

[B]

it depends on, like, the therapy.

[A]

Your feelings hurt.

[C]

I don't. I don't think in that.

[B]

What is it?

[C]

Not in that context.

[A]

No.

[B]

I don't think it would be childhood trauma. Or is it what we all hate about each other?

[C]

And I guess anything could come. Everyone. Everyone could put down certain things, and we just.

[A]

And we just draw from a hat and read it.

[C]

It's like, these. This is.

[B]

And everybody else gets, like, self improvement. I'm the only one who gets why I don't like my dad.

[C]

No. It. You would have a list of things that you'll never talk about. Like, we're not. I'm. I don't want to talk about this. So this will just never be brought up. Everything else fair game. And then we have an actual therapist come in. We sit down, we just start yapping.

[B]

That needs to be incorporated with the sip and ride. That way we can get a little alcohol in there and, like, loosen the lips a little bit better.

[A]

So we have a. We have a little inside joke. Little. A little trip joke, I would say. Where? What?

[B]

It's real.

[A]

Where when we go to dinner and we start. We start gabbing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And we start getting a little giggly. A little whatever. None of us drink, like, hardly at all. And so when we go to, like, a nice dinner, something. We're out of town. And I'll get. We'll get, like, a little glass of wine, whatever. And I'll get like. Our joke is like, we're like, now I'm a half glass in, but. And it, like, justifies anything we say.

[C]

Before I say this, you need to know I'm a half glass in.

[A]

But I just don't think, like, we're being truthful. It's only a half glass. And yet we're like, yeah, all.

[B]

All holds are all. That's one that I've struggled with for my whole life. No holds barred.

[A]

When have I ever heard that said in my life? I've Never heard.

[C]

I thought you were trying to say.

[B]

Is that the saying? Like, we are like. Like, that's like when you're, like, letting it all, like, hey, like, everything's on the table. No holds.

[A]

All bets are off is all bets are.

[B]

No holes barred, right?

[A]

I've never heard that.

[B]

No, I'm. No, I'm saying it wrong.

[C]

It's. I think I know what you're. But I wanted.

[B]

Yeah, that's just always confused me.

[A]

Like, no holding back.

[B]

Yeah, but it's like, no, hold it. You know what I mean? Y' all know what I'm saying? No holds barred. No, no, no.

[C]

I'm actually not gonna look it up. I'm gonna let them tell us.

[B]

I've never heard that, but it's true. And I don't know what it means, so. But somebody could explain that.

[C]

You' know, I know you are.

[A]

But with that being said, we. We don't hold any. What is. I don't know.

[C]

We don't hold any punches.

[B]

We don't pull any punches.

[C]

Pull any punches.

[A]

We. We get a little loose with the lips with a little quarter. Quarter to half glass.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Especially, I mean, sometimes he goes, espresso

[C]

martini, a little night cap, if you will.

[A]

I haven't. Have you even had a drink in the last.

[B]

Yes, I had a cold beer last night.

[A]

Yeah, you did get it. You got it. Because Rachel was making. She calls them palomas.

[C]

Yeah, we did have a paloma. That was.

[B]

Right. That was a caviar pairing, dude.

[A]

Because at. Yeah, because in Kentucky, I mean, it was just. Some of those days were rough and

[B]

just rainy and wet.

[A]

It was rainy, wet, gross, long. And so at night, Rachel was making these little fruity palomas drinks. Yeah. So it. It's so funny because we're like. We're drinking, but it's like everyone has one little tiny drink.

[C]

I did just get a nice Japanese whiskey.

[A]

O Japanese.

[B]

I would always like to try sake. The sake. Not what that is, but it's pretty good.

[A]

I. I just have never.

[B]

Your house.

[C]

In my house.

[A]

I've just never been a drinker. Like, I. I don't know. Like, I. I didn't do. I didn't do in college the one time my friend Danny was a horrible influence on me one time, and we were on a trip, and that was like, I think the worst. That the worst night of my life. And because she's like, here, try this. This one has rum in it. Here, try this. This one has vodka in it. Here, this is wine. Here. This is. And I'm Just like, okay. And I was. I think I was like 20, I don't know, 20. And because we were. Was legal, we were at the Bahamas and I told my parents I had food poisoning.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

I don't know if they believe me or not.

[B]

Probably that's just what I think about as a father now.

[C]

I don't know, I think back on scenarios that I think I got away with and now I know I would have known.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

But like, again, straight and narrow kid.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

You know, I told it the other day, I told my mom. Not that I've. Not that I've been like a wild kid or anything, but I told her a bunch of stuff the other day and she was like, so I don't know, maybe.

[C]

Maybe you did.

[A]

I don't know. But yeah, we're not a really wild bunch.

[C]

No.

[B]

No Bed by ten kind of folks.

[A]

No, we're late bed goers. Yeah, we're just not wild.

[C]

I certainly am at home. I'm less so on trips though.

[A]

Well, yeah, we're usually getting up early

[C]

and yeah, as soon as, as soon as one or two people start like turning it in,

[A]

I will like, I'll go get cozy and I'm like ready for like a little hangout sesh. And then when like at. In Kentucky, Stephanie and Rachel kept Irish goodbyeing and just like going to bed, not telling anybody. And then I, I would be sitting in the living room, then I'd be like,

[B]

well, I'm also trying to learn the balance of like, you know, you got a seven day horse show.

[A]

If I give you don't want to hate everybody.

[B]

100 the first three. And this is like, I've been like, what's five or six horse shows at this point? Whatever. And I'm learning, I'm figuring out the ratio. You get 100, like the first three days, like we're gonna stay up all night, we're gonna hang out, we're gonna play game, we'll play Monopoly, we're gonna play. I mean like if all till 4am baby. Because we're all like the fourth day, like after we're done hitting record, it's just like, nah, don't talk to me. I want to go to my room and not see anybody because I just needed. I just need a minute. Last time I felt like there was a good balance.

[A]

It was a good balance.

[B]

And so like the whole time I felt like I was pretty, you know,

[A]

And I. I'm hoping in. At the NSBA World in Tulsa because like there's so there's lots of different areas at that house because, like, I got a house big enough for, like, my parents to come for a couple days and, like, everyone to kind of have a good bedroom. No one's having to share bedrooms, like, that kind of deal. And so I. I think there's enough space for everyone to go have, like, some time. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

I don't think that applies to us.

[B]

What do we have? The bunk beds?

[A]

Oh, wait, I think you'll have the basement.

[B]

That's okay. I'll get a hotel.

[A]

The basement's huge. It has its own kitchen. It has. But it has the. The.

[B]

That's another thing we're going to start doing at these horse shows is. Although I love. The one thing I love about going somewhere is experiencing food from that place. Go to Oklahoma City, Tulsa, T. Great food. Great food. But we have got to start cooking more in these places.

[C]

No.

[B]

Yes, we do. I volunteer as tribute because I enjoy it.

[A]

Sure. But we're working.

[B]

Not all the time.

[A]

Most of the time.

[C]

Maybe we can. Well, maybe we can film a chef spot with Matt.

[B]

No, I don't want to anymore.

[C]

My thing is taking my suit off.

[A]

What day do we have time to go to the grocery store and then cook?

[B]

It's all right. It's a dumb idea. Yeah.

[C]

I think we have bunks.

[A]

Yeah, but they're like the. Like the queen size bunks.

[C]

Yeah, they are queen beds.

[A]

They're queen beds, but they're like. Yeah, I forgot. Y' all have the basement.

[B]

I'll have a hotel, but I'll be there in the morning for sure. I picked this up seven times, like, pretending to drink out of it, and there's nothing in it.

[A]

Shut up. You will be fine. Because it, like, has the whole outdoor patio section, the giant pool.

[B]

Like, that's where I'll sleep in the pool.

[A]

I think there's, like, five bathrooms in this house. It's huge.

[C]

It is a really big house.

[A]

You'll be fine.

[B]

Do they have a pool table?

[A]

I don't know. There was a pool table at the

[B]

one in Florida, because we use those every time.

[A]

There's been a pool table so many times, and we did not use it.

[C]

The only thing that I used a lot was the golf sim.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it was in a totally different building. I never went and looked at it.

[C]

Yeah, I use that a lot.

[B]

Dartboard would go a long way.

[A]

Never mind.

[C]

You dart.

[A]

Never mind.

[B]

She. She always has, like, some bull crap, like, thing that she's like, what? Like, are we really into horse too.

[A]

Oh yeah, like, because I, I, I

[B]

have a, she has like these things. I, I'll play and then beat you to death. Oh my gosh. What do you even do with it?

[A]

No, I'm not

[B]

over here pulling 360s on me and stuff.

[A]

No, it's that with horse, I'm just smarter. So like I don't try to go do hard stuff. I try to do the painstakingly easy stuff that and everyone misses them. I don't know why. You get right up there to the goal. I, I've perfected it. But nobody else practices that. Nobody else knows how to do that.

[C]

It's too easy.

[A]

It's too easy, it's too easy. That's how I do that. But with like darts and stuff. We had a run, we had about a three year run in the dart scene.

[B]

That's longer than ping pong.

[A]

No, I'm also good at ping pong. If you weren't here, I'd be like a ping pong, like a really good ping pong person. It's like we just have, for some reason we, we like capture all of these pingpong people. Like everybody has a pingpong person in their friend group for some reason. All of those people from those friend groups flock here for events and we have these really good ping pongers all in one place.

[C]

I am self conscious, you know, for talking about it with how I throw a dart. It is, it is one of the things that I am self conscious about. I've been made fun of many times for how I throw darts.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean that would be enough for me.

[C]

I don't actually know how to do it.

[A]

So like we don't play with like the little plastic ones. Like we have like metal tipped ones. And so, you know, I was actually thinking about it. My elbow was hurting yesterday and I'm like, I actually thought, I was like, I wonder if it's from all those years. Yeah, you know, because I'm not joking you. I met Jonathan when I was 20 and we, I didn't, I, I guess I probably, I would say two and a half years, the first two and a half years of us dating at his nasty little like boy house that he lived in with three other boys. They had a dartboard and that's like all we did. And then at the local bar which is no longer in existence, but back in the day we frequented there like all the time. And Jonathan was like a dart shark. Like, yeah, it was awesome. And so we would play all the Time. And so we play like pairs. We play. But I mean, I don't know how I had the time to spend so much time on darts, but I feel

[C]

like that would be a great movie. Like there's a guy, he kind of has like a dungy room with his, you know, his roommates or whatever and he goes over and he's always throwing darts. And then he's dating this girl and she comes over and she throws it and he's like, like, you're pretty good. So then she starts going. And then, then, you know, time progresses. She's like making a run at nationals and it's like just this big epic darts movie I would watch.

[A]

Jonathan is. It's like, I don't know how he's so good at the like stupid little hand eye coordination games, like ping pong, like darts. I'm like, how are you so gifted at this? I mean, kind of stupid stuff, you know what I'm saying? But then I by default, beer pong. Oh my gosh, we played so much beer pong, it's not even funny. And so mind you, it's fun just to play. In college, I didn't drink like ever at all.

[B]

You had the advantage.

[A]

Well, my sorority, because at one point like I got kicked out and then they let me come back for a semester. I took a little, didn't go to class, literally just did sorority stuff. And then I got kicked out again. Well, I, in that time period had started dating Jonathan and so he was this 23 year old man going to my like sorority stuff. And we had this thing we called Joshial, which was a jean social. So you have to wear all blue jean. So I had found blue jean heels. I was wearing overalls with like a kind of a small shirt under and like everyone was just in blue jean. And we had a beer pong tournament where they had this huge like, what do you call it? Where you have like seeds.

[C]

A bracket.

[A]

A bracket. They had his bracket made up. And because, because they all knew that I was like, didn't drink and didn't really party that much. They were like, oh, last seed.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They put me as this last rank.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But they didn't know who my boyfriend was.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And so we started at the bottom, won it, won the whole thing. We. There was 72 teams.

[B]

Golly.

[C]

Oh my gosh. I'm just imagining, I'm imagining it was an upset. Everyone who lost was like 23.

[A]

He had like a full beard. Like he's this, this man in the middle of these children Some of them

[C]

are like, they're by yourself. They set the bracket and it's like slow motion. Jonathan's walking up and they're like.

[A]

And he's a big guy, you know, like in his, in his cowboy boots. He's like six, three. Like he's. I mean, he might be taller than that in cowboy boots, but he like had a full beard, was tall. Like I had some, I had guys. He is, he is. But like, some of these kids were like the freshmen coming in were like 18. The difference between an 18 year old and a 23 year old, astounding.

[B]

Especially nowadays.

[A]

And so like, not so much even in, in the girls, but like in the boys versus the man. And it was hilarious. Like, he was like, I don't like this. He's like, I feel I don't want to be here. Yeah, he did not. And. And we just woofed everybody. And it was so funny. And so there was like a traveling trophy. And so they're like, how do you have this? Like, why? And I think, what was it like? There were. They. There was. It was a long standing joke from then on after that. And I think it was a superlative one year. They were like most likely to Katie Vince, like at a beer pong tournament.

[C]

Yeah. You got a, you got a title card named after you.

[A]

Yeah, but it was that. That's. Yeah, the whole overlife.

[B]

In my yearbook. I got something on my senior yearbook. Most something. But I don't remember.

[C]

I did too.

[A]

My whole high school sucked in the fact they were like most likely to horse. And like, like they just, like I was just labeled horse. My graduation, mind you, they called me out as Catherine Elizabeth. That's not my name. Like, like my school just trolled me like constantly.

[C]

Your middle name is Abigail.

[A]

It is. And so Elizabeth.

[C]

That's just a generic.

[A]

That's the joke. That's the joke. And so they called me out as Catherine Elizabeth. It was like, I'm in my. I'm in my yearbook as Catherine Elizabeth.

[C]

That's. Wow.

[A]

And like my senior one with like my, you know, the black dress and the big one. The big one. Catherine Elizabeth. And so they just trolled me. So everybody else, like, they did it this year. I don't think they did it again after this, but they did where there's only 120 of us graduating. And so every single time someone came up on the stage, they would say three adjectives about this person.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

So they would always do the nightmare. They would do something. They were, you know, they were all, like, honestly cannot even think because I'm just thinking about what they said about me. They were all adjectives.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm the only one that got a noun. Okay? Like, they were all adjectives. And then I couldn't even remember what the other one. Like, I think mine were some, like, cop out BS ones. They're like, kind, you know, whatever. And then it was like, equestrian.

[B]

That's an adjective.

[A]

Horse. Girl.

[C]

Nice horse.

[A]

Literally, they're like, we don't know about this. We don't know anything about you. The horse.

[C]

Horse.

[B]

I don't even know your name.

[C]

You don't even know your name?

[A]

There's 120 kids, okay? This isn't a thousand kid high school.

[C]

Wow. Didn't know the name.

[A]

No. Okay, well, I think I still failed at doing a catch up.

[B]

We're catching up with. With just, like, a thing. Everybody sees the Tick tocks.

[A]

They see the videos.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No one knows about you and your. That's how Lily says soup.

[A]

I love that. Okay, well, hope y' all enjoyed. I don't know how this is gonna come out looking so 100. Good luck.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Good luck. And we will see y' all in the next one.