Keeping It Real with Jillian Michaels

Episode: "Donald Trump Jr Drops Bombshells: Thomas Crooks, Gaza, Russia, Iran, Fuentes, 2026 Midterms"
Release Date: November 30, 2025
Guest: Donald Trump Jr.
Host: Jillian Michaels

Episode Overview

Jillian Michaels hosts Donald Trump Jr. for an unfiltered, wide-ranging conversation. The episode delves into the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump Sr., U.S. and global politics, conspiracies, polarization, and the Trump family’s lived experience under intense scrutiny. Trump Jr. provides candid insight into his father’s presidency, policy approaches to war, the economy, social issues, and the evolving political landscape. The discussion also addresses challenges from within both the right and left, polarization in society, and the need for nuanced discourse.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Weight of Public Scrutiny & Family Experience (~02:00–06:00)

• Personal Toll: Trump Jr. describes the extremes of public opinion, from devotion to hatred, and the normalization of threats against the family.
  • “They called my father every name in the book...multiple people tried to kill him. You know, that's not awesome." (03:15, Donald Trump Jr.)
• Perspective Shift: The hardships created a fighter mentality:
  • “My kids, they have a problem with something. I'm like, that's not a problem. Look at what we're dealing with over here.” (03:50, Trump Jr.)
• Motivation: Positive encounters with supporters bring meaning to the struggle.
  • “Grown men sometimes, or women, coming up with literally tears in their eyes that they're going to get to experience their American dream. That makes all of it worth it." (04:30, Trump Jr.)

2. Assessing the Thomas Crooks Incident & Political Violence (~06:00–10:30)

• Suspicion over Official Narratives: Trump Jr. questions the lone-wolf theory behind the Trump assassination attempt, pointing to the shooter’s lack of digital footprint and odd security lapses.
  • “You don't have to be a rocket scientist...you never give up the high ground. So that seemed odd.” (07:28, Trump Jr.)
• Media and Conspiracies: Suggests past "conspiracy theories" have proven more credible than mainstream narratives.
  • “Your crazy conspiracy theorist uncle has been far more right than any of the narrative that's been fed to you by the media.” (07:58, Trump Jr.)
• Trust Issues: Skepticism of federal agencies, but expresses trust in some individuals like Secret Service head Sean Curran.

3. Political Weaponization & Fearlessness (~10:55–13:07)

• Democratic Strategies: Discusses cycles of attack—smearing, litigation, banking censorship, potential for more extreme measures if the left gains power.
  • “Democrats have shown there's nothing they won't do...it’s rules for me, but not for thee with them.” (12:00, Trump Jr.)
• Mentality: Trump Jr. claims the family expects relentless attack and has adapted, especially his father.

4. Trump Presidency: Foreign Policy & Domestic Achievements (~13:07–19:30)

• Conflict Resolution: Lists conflicts ended or de-escalated by Trump Sr., asserts mainstream media criticism ignores real progress.
  • “He’s ending wars that, you know, no one wanted ended because...there’s no money in peace, Gillian.” (15:19, Trump Jr.)
• Ukraine & Russia: Criticizes American involvement, corruption, and shifting narratives.
  • “America should just spend another few trillion...mortgage our children and our grandchildren’s future away for a war we don’t even know what we’re fighting.” (17:25, Trump Jr.)
• War Logic: Argues for pragmatic, peace-oriented strategies versus endless conflicts.
  • “The whole game is insane...no one in D.C. has even told me what victory looks like yet.” (15:53, Trump Jr.)

5. On Venezuela, Fentanyl, and American Priorities (~22:28–24:26)

• Fighting Narco-Terrorism: Praises the effectiveness of targeting Venezuelan drug smuggling for American security.
  • “He’s a narco terrorist and we’re shooting his source of income out of the water in the Caribbean rather than killing Americans. Like, I don’t know, that actually feels a lot better to me…” (24:26, Trump Jr.)
• Nuance over Binaries: Decries reductionist narratives (“binary thinking”) and calls for more sophisticated political discussions.
  • “There is a middle ground. There is nuance...” (25:29, Trump Jr.)

6. Economic Challenges & Messaging Failures (~28:50–35:26)

• Policy Lag & Public Expectations: Addresses why economic or immigration fixes aren’t instantaneous, given entrenched issues and administrative obstacles.
  • “You can’t undo four years of disastrous policies overnight...” (15:58, Trump Jr.)
  • “It takes a while for these things to manifest...everyone wants, like, instant gratification because we live in an instant gratification world.” (27:10, Trump Jr.)
• Fair Trade & China: Explains the generational struggle to rebalance trade and domestic production.
  • “It’s a 50-year mess...trying to thread a very fine needle, but hopefully there’ll be an America left for your kids.” (31:35, Jillian Michaels)
• Trump Sr. as ‘Disciplinarian Parent’: Argues tough love and long-term thinking are needed.
  • “He’s the disciplinarian parent we all need, but people don’t often understand how much you need it.” (34:04, Trump Jr.)

7. Polarization, Identity Politics & Changing the Right (~38:18–43:43)

• Transgender Issues in Sports: Trump Jr. lambasts what he sees as absurdity in the inclusion debate; supports basic rights but draws the line with children.
  • “You want to chop off your thing...it’s fine. I don’t want to hear about it...but stay the hell away from my kids.” (41:23, Trump Jr.)
• Acceptance on the Right: Asserts Trump era has made Republicans more inclusive, particularly regarding LGBT rights, compared to Democrats’ past positions.
  • “Your father and your family has built a far bigger and more accepting tent than the left…” (43:20, Jillian Michaels)
• Radicalism on Both Sides: Warns against fringe voices, especially those like Nick Fuentes, and discusses the dangers of giving extremist rhetoric too much attention.
  • “Sometimes, even acknowledging...just makes them bigger...you can’t respond to everything...” (49:54, Trump Jr.)
  • Advocates for consequences via loss of social standing, not censorship.

8. Looking to the Future: GOP Talent Pipeline and Succession (~51:10–53:57)

• On His Own Political Ambitions: Plays coy on a potential run, stating his role is currently about supporting his father's vision.
  • “Right now, I’m outside. I’m a business guy...maybe one day, but I do think it’s...[the] first time we’ve ever had a bench...” (51:12, Trump Jr.)
• Trump Sr.'s Consistency: Praises his father's decades-long consistency on economic and foreign policy.

9. Geopolitics, Iran, and U.S. Global Role (~54:22–62:59)

• Peace and Prosperity as Goals: Trump Sr. wants lasting prosperity and strategic peace, not accolades.
  • “He would much rather have the success in terms of geopolitics...He wants to stop the senseless death.” (54:22, Trump Jr.)
• Strategy Toward Adversaries: Pragmatic alliances and precision action (e.g. Iran, the Abraham Accords) are preferred over endless wars.
  • “He recognized Iran as a threat far more than anyone...he did almost have them bankrupt with the sanctions...” (60:11, Trump Jr.)
  • “At night, he had a B2 fly in. They took out the plants, and, like, they understand what America can and will do.” (60:22, Trump Jr.)

10. Advice for Americans: Media, Conversation, and Open-mindedness (~62:59–67:22)

• Reject Mainstream Media: Encourages listeners to engage with those of opposing viewpoints, seek nuance, and verify information.
  • “Turn off your televisions, stop listening to the mainstream media, you know, have a conversation.” (63:40, Trump Jr.)
• The Power of Dialogue: Holds up late Charlie Kirk as an example of change via honest debate.
• Question "Experts": Calls for skepticism of legacy experts with poor track records.
  • “If you haven’t been right in decades, do you still deserve to be given credence as an expert?” (65:17, Trump Jr.)

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On the family’s resilience:
  “I guess I got enough of the Trump gene that it's like when I'm sort of backed in that corner, my instinct is just to sort of fight.” — Donald Trump Jr. (03:58)
• On the assassination attempt:
  “I don't know how a 20 year old kid gets that radicalized with zero digital footprint. That doesn't seem like that would happen.” — Trump Jr. (10:15)
• On U.S. military priorities:
  “Fentanyl kills 100,000 Americans a year...And the Democrats are grossly against that. It's like, man, what side are they on?” — Trump Jr. (21:30)
• On incremental progress:
  “You can't, you know, unscrew something that's been screwed up for four years in one second…” — Trump Jr. (27:19)
• On the GOP’s evolving inclusivity:
  “Your father and your family has built a far bigger and more accepting tent than the left...I had a complete misconception about who your dad was going to be in his presidency.” — Jillian Michaels (43:20)
• On handling radicals and cancel culture:
  “I think some of those radicals, they sort of give themselves up in many cases in their own things...I think we have to have conversations, even conversations we don't want to hear...” — Trump Jr. (47:38–48:45)
• On restoring the American Dream:
  “He wants to bring the prosperity that, you know, America really had...He wants everyone to be able to live their American dream.” — Trump Jr. (54:55)

Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:49–06:04| Trump Jr. on family’s public scrutiny, personal toll, and motivation | | 06:04–10:48| Analysis of assassination attempt, security failures and conspiracy, trust in some institutions | | 11:43–13:07| Weaponization of the legal system and media; "rules for me, but not for thee" | | 14:00–19:37| Trump Sr.’s policy wins, peace initiatives, and U.S. stance on conflict/proxy wars | | 21:20–24:26| Strategy shift: Venezuela, fentanyl crisis, messaging challenges | | 28:50–35:26| The slow pace of fixing economic and immigration issues; discipline vs. gratification | | 38:18–43:43| Polarization, trans rights debates, and the GOP’s shift toward greater social inclusiveness | | 46:03–49:54| Handling of far-right extremists, Nick Fuentes, and party image | | 51:10–53:57| Succession and long-term “bench” in the Republican Party; Trump Jr. on potential future run | | 54:22–62:59| Global strategy, Iran, the Abraham Accords, and constructive realpolitik | | 62:59–67:22| Advice to Americans: seek dialogue, reject media divides, focus on practical outcomes |

Memorable Moments

• The Elevator Anecdote: Trump Jr. recalls the moment before his father announced his 2016 campaign:
  “He just looked at me and he goes, and now we find out who our real friends are.” (04:42)
• On ‘Derangement Syndrome’:
  “Trump Derangement syndrome is real. There’s nothing that he can do. That's right.” (24:51)
• Egg prices tongue-in-cheek:
  “But it was like, so, like, he literally hasn't even left the podium yet...you're mad that egg prices aren't down.” (27:22)
• On inclusivity and rights:
  “Trump was the first guy to run for office that was fine with gay marriage, like before they got into office.” (41:07)

Key Takeaways & Actionable Advice

• Policy change takes time—don’t expect instant fixes for issues decades in the making.
• Avoid binary, click-driven thinking; nuanced dialogue is critical for democracy.
• Engage directly with those who hold different views; challenge your sources of information.
• Beware the magnification of fringe voices for political gain.
• Prioritize long-term national prosperity and broad civic participation over short-term wins or divisive tactics.

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