← Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
MTG on the Epstein Archives, Trump’s Phone Call, & What’s Next
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Jillian Michaels
Today I'm joined by Marjorie Taylor Greene, the lightning rod who famously sacrificed her political career going to war with Donald Trump to help bring us the Epstein files.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
This is the ultimate way to take it to the deep state and expose a whole criminal cabal of rich, powerful elites that. That I believe, control everything. And guess what? Come to find out they do.
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Jillian Michaels
And in fact, they have come to light, creating a sonic boom that has been heard around the world. Now, while the media treats Jeffrey Epstein like a true crime story about a sociopath trafficker on an island, that framing is microscopic. The reality is that Epstein built an influence machine. The abuse was just a tool for leverage, silence, and shame. The guy wasn't just a person predator. He was literally the dark connective tissue of a global elite that operates above the law. He was a broker between ego and opportunity. And the receipts show us that he was involved in the pillaging and plundering of the world's resources and consolidation of power. And he had cohorts in every realm and every field. Bankers, scientists, politicians, royalty, technocrats, billionaires, institutions, extractors. This animal didn't pick a side. He picked power. There's almost no mechanism of exploitation in the last 50 years that Epstein wasn't facilitating or profiting from. Now we're going to get into this and so much more. So, really, honestly, when I say it this time, I mean it. Buckle up. Keeping it real with Jillian Michaels. How are ya?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Oh, I'm great. And I'm doing this on my phone, so I really hope it looks okay and sounds okay.
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Jillian Michaels
It looks great. I want to start out with an apology to you. Despite the fact I've never gone after you, I've never mentioned your name. But many moons ago, I'm almost positive that your name probably came up in a conversation about QAnon conspiracy theories, pizza parlors that trafficked children run by Hillary Clinton, and a host of other conspiracy theories that have all turned out to be true. So I am sorry. I hope you feel vindicated. And with the release of this last batch of Epstein files, I have to tell you, my head is spinning. So I wanna start out with just the things that I have personally uncovered. So while it seems like everybody is focusing on his sex trafficking, that just appears to be a lever that this guy pulled to orchestrate all of these crimes against humanity. The guy's in Iran Contra. He's frigging involved in pandemic planning with Gates a decade ago. I mean, he's. He's everywhere. It looks like he's trying to facilitate the Coup in Ukraine circa 2014. I mean, he is at the scene of every crime. It's like that Rolling Stone song, Sympathy for the Devil, where the devil is everywhere that evil has occurred. So my first question to you is, how did you know? What did you see back in 2016 or maybe farther back? What did you know that we didn't know?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Oh, well, first I'll say it's terrible to be right about many of these things. These are not the kind of things that you ever want to be right about. It would be much better if they were all wrong. I think we would be living in a much better time and place if pedophilia wasn't rampant among rich, powerful elites, if. If so many young women hadn't been raped and trafficked among world leaders and business leaders. And to your last point, it would be great if it wasn't true that somehow some guy named Jeffrey Epstein that didn't even have a college degree was launched into such an incredible career where he became so incredibly rich and had connections with some of the most powerful people in the world. It would be great if those things were not true. I would much rather live in that type of country and that type of world, but we don't. And for people like me, you know, I was an average American. I never served in politics. I never even went to a Republican county meeting. I just didn't. My family, we own a construction company. I was busy raising three children, but I was always one of those Americans that was constantly pretty pissed off at my government because it was. I always felt like it was the government that caused many of our problems, Whether it was regulation, regulations that were hard on our business, failures in Washington that led to, you know, the economy having so many difficulties that would hurt our business and make it hard for us to feed our family. But it was just looking into, just being willing to read on the Internet and look past the mainstream news is where I would. And me and many others would stumble across all types of things. And, you know, I always felt like it's the right thing to do, to ask questions and look into these things and say, could this be true? And that's the kind of person I was. I was willing to just ask those questions and. And many times asking these questions made me look crazy. And I got labeled a conspiracy theorist and got called all kinds of names. And now I think it's shocked so many people. Jillian, I have to tell you, I've come across videos of women just weeping in their cars over what they've read in The Epstein files. I've come across videos of men saying that people need to be put in a wood chipper. I mean, people are losing their minds, rightfully so, over what has come out. And the most outrageous part, Gillian, is that the people in charge are not taking it seriously and are not investigating it. And it seems that no one will be held accountable. And that's the point where it's breaking Americans is how can we read these things with our own eyes and read them on an FBI form, but yet the FBI and the Department of Justice and the administration, and even the president himself is unwilling to take it serious? And so I think it's a really rough time for a lot of people.
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Jillian Michaels
I don't think that you can take it seriously. And here's the only reason I say that. Not because it isn't real, but because it creates an existential threat to our way of life. And here's what I mean by that. I've started to kind of move down the road post Covid into believing, obviously, that these monster corporations, be it BlackRock, you know, all of these, like this handful of corporations that own everything. All the drug companies, all the food companies, and it's like State street, blackrock. And there's one other, I can't remember which one. And they own the controlling shares of every single frigging company in the world. And what's even crazier is that when you look at who owns Black. Oh, it's Vanguard.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Okay, Vanguard, Yeah. So which owns BlackRock? Which.
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Jillian Michaels
There is State street, which owns Vanguard. They own each other. So all of a sudden you're like, wait a second, hold on. Who owns the controlling share of Apple, Tesla, Microsoft, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. State Street, Vanguard, BlackRock. Who owns State Street? Oh, Vanguard and BlackRock, Vanguard, State street and BlackRock. And it's all just one company, basically, that owns the controlling shares of everything. So you start to look into this post Covid, and you're thinking, all right, this is insane. This is bananas. But what you're told when all of this craziness unfolds, the, you know, pillaging and plundering of the developing world, the things like disaster, profiteering, everything in my line of work, when it comes to health and wellness, looking at the ways in which hundreds of billions of dollars flow in subsidies to processed foods and garbage, all of the stuff with health care that gets buried, all of this stuff you're told, well, no one's evil. It's not like one person doing this, guys. It's just the way business works. You see, what happens is the. These companies have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders. So it kind of begets itself, like where there's an opportunity to make money. These kind of crazy things are just what happens. But nobody is deliberately pulling the string. There's no puppet master. All of a sudden, you go into these Epstein emails, and they are literally a handful of people talking to each other about how to control the world. And I, it's everyone. It's everything from the Clinton foundation, the Gates Foundation, Enzo Capital, which is Larry Fink's kid, Josh Fink. So his connection to Larry Fink is through Josh Fink. Every single billionaire. Peter Thiel, Reid Hoffman, Lex Wexner, Elon Musk, politicians all over the world, royalty, bankers. So when you first discovered this, was this the Pizzagate thing that tipped you off? Or what was the first thing that you saw that was your red flag out of all of this crazy shit? Forgive my pardon, my friend.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
No, that's correct. It wasn't Pizzagate. It was actually earlier than that. It was truthfully, just being a small business owner in the construction industry and understanding that no matter how hard we worked, we were really victims of the decision makers and we weren't in the club. It's a very elite club, and we aren't in it. Many Americans, like, I'm a gentleman. I'm Gen x. I'll be 52 in May. Okay, so we grew up, I think we grew up in the best time in America. I mean, being a kid in the 80s and growing up throughout the 70s and 80s, I think was the best. And we were taught that America is the greatest country in the world, that we are the freest people in the world, that no matter who you are, no matter your background, you can achieve the American dream. And for many, on many levels, that is true. I totally believe it. It's true. I've lived it in my lifetime. However, I think the awakening for many people, and I think you're right to draw the line at, if we were to put a timeline out, the awakening really happened for most people at Covid, because our whole world got shattered. And all of a sudden, everything came to a halt. Manufacturing lines stopped, entire industries stopped, School stopped, life stopped, Entertainment stopped. And for the first time, it was like us going back to kids where we didn't grow up with cell phones, we didn't grow up with the Internet. We grew up in a time where we looked around and paid attention to the world around us and the people around us. And I think for all of us, it was the first time since, say, our childhood. And for a lot of adults, young adults especially, it was the first time ever in their lifetimes where they were forced to stop and look around and seriously ask, what the hell is happening? What is happening? And so I think that was a great awakening for many, but for me, it went back, you know, and it was just always being willing to ask questions and just noticing. I think I always just. I've been. I've always been perceptive and just notice things. And, you know, I don't. I don't know for sure if Pizzagate is true or not true, but pizza references are. It is true that they use pizza references and pedophilia. That is a fact. And so is it wrong for people to. To have looked at Pizzagate back then and the information that came back and asked those questions. No, that wasn't wrong to ask those questions. I think what is wrong now is seeing these pizza references in the Epstein files and not asking those questions. Like Pam Bondi saying, but the dow is over 50,000. Yeah, it's like, what? Excuse me, we're talking about children. And I think. I think I'm happy to know that. I really feel, I guess, vindicated. The one thing that destroyed my political career was the Epstein files and fighting for the release of the Epstein files. And, hey, I'm fine with that. I will go with that the rest of my life and be so happy about it. And I'm happy to see that that has also been the one thing, Jillian, that has brought the right and the left together in this country. Yes, thank God. Because that's a moral. That was like a temperature check for all of us. And I truly feel so much better about America seeing the left and right come together and say, oh, hell no.
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Jillian Michaels
We.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
We will not. We. We aren't going to tolerate this. We will not let it go. We will not move on. We don't care who is involved. We don't care what team. Left, right, red, blue, we don't care. We don't care who it is. We want all of them held accountable. And thank God for that.
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Jillian Michaels
You know what's funny is that they're all in it. That's why. And what I ended up taking away, I mean, it's like, oh, Barack Obama and the Clintons and, I mean, Trump is in there. I mean, I get it. He wasn't on the island, and I understand all of that, but nevertheless, it is everywhere. Steve Bannon. It's all Steve Bannon of the aisle. And Here we are going to war with each other, which I have always said is a ruse. I'm like, this is a distraction. This culture war stuff is a trick, man. It's a trick to get you not to pay attention to what's really going on against all of us. And here you are, here you are being able to read all this shit and I want to show you. I don't know if you've seen this one because obviously there are millions of these correspondents, so this is so mind boggling to me. We pulled just a couple emails involving Covid planning between Gates team and Epstein. So this is an email that appears to go to Bill. Bill Gates. Okay, ready for this? Two areas where I am interested in terms of scope, domestic health and neurotech brain science. I propose these as deliverables. Please let Larry and I know what you think. Number one, to improve access and secure personal health data affordability access blueprint or recommendations for a zero knowledge proof based digital system to secure private personal health health information while allowing access to digitally redacted personal information. Number two, white paper on consumer health expenditures in the usa. Number three, White paper and or recommendations on neurotechnologies related to chronic degenerative disease. Number four, white paper on neurotechnology's epidemic as weapons in national intelligence and defense. Number five, follow up recommendations and or technical specifications for strain pandemic simulation. This is. This is real. Dude, you're calm. I'm freaking out. I've got one more I want to show you. Covid related. We don't know who this came from, but it went to Jeff Epstein and it says.
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Voice Actor / Reader
Cool.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm excited. Also, I've been thinking a lot about the question that you asked Bill Gates. How do we get rid of poor people as a whole? And I have an answer slash comment regarding that for you. When can I call you today to discuss? Marjorie, how do we get rid of poor people as a whole? I have an answer.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah, see, this is where it's right for people to be freaking out. And why is Jeffrey Epstein the only one that was put in prison? Why is Ghislaine Maxwell the only one in prison? These people should be on trial right now. Getting rid of poor people altogether, that's the most repulsive thing ever. And then putting all of our data, our identity, everything about our health measures and markers into a digital system is complete communism. That's like everything that we stand against as Americans. But even more so, doesn't it disturb you and probably everyone else that they're talking about Weapons, they're talking about war and they're. But the main thing is it's about making a profit. And that's what it really was about for them is how to make as much money as possible on a pandemic. And the reason, sadly, the reason why it doesn't totally shocked me because. Is because I served on the COVID Select Committee on House Oversight. And many of the forms and emails and the information that we dug up through our investigation was beyond anything I've ever imagined possible. And Anthony Fauci himself, when we deposed him, that. That man described what he called science. And I thought, this is the most evil shit I've ever heard of in my life. And to Anthony Fauci, and I don't call him Doctor because he doesn't deserve to be called doctor. This is not a man that's for life saving. He is for killing people.
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Jillian Michaels
He deserves a jumpsuit.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yep, yep. And he described a. What he called science was creating viruses, viruses that make people sick and kill them in order to create the cure, to create the vaccine. In other words, playing God. And that is what he described to us. And he described the whole thing with such pride. He was so proud of it because he deemed himself as a savior. It was like having a. He was a narcissist and has a savior complex. But you read it in that email, the same tone, the same attitude. And these people have been doing this. I would argue they've been doing this for as long as time. We're just seeing it, what it looks like in our lifetime. And I mean, we know that they go to places like Davos and they have been doing this for decades. And they meet and they talk. The industry leaders and the politicians all over the world come together and plan the future of humanity, but the reality is all of them make a fortune off of it. And that's why you've got this extremely small percentage of very rich, powerful people that are all friends with the. Each other, they all hang out together, they know each other's wives and girlfriends and husbands and boyfriends and children, and they go to parties together and they go on vacation together and they do really sick things together. And. But it's because they all work together to basically pull the strings that control the world, that control our lives. And, Jillian, I. Covid was the one that, like, it wrecked me. It did. Because I'm. You probably don't know this, but I think you're great because I have followed you and others throughout much of my adult life. I've got Extremely into fitness. I apparently am really good at joining cults because I got into CrossFit. Yeah, when I go all in, I go all in. I ended up owning a CrossFit gym, competing, like, all the stuff. And Maha, I love Maha so much. You know, I went, no casein. You know, no, no gluten. I did. I've done all those. All of them. And I really believe in many of these, you know, natural ways to be healthy. But having lived that lifestyle when. When Covid came around, I'm like, wait a minute, this is a flu. And yes, flus always. Yeah, there's going to be people dying. It's horrible. But we know who is vulnerable and we should keep them safe. But shutting down the entire world and, and the part that wrecked me, interestingly enough, because I've always been a big Trump supporter, was Trump was the one that shut down the world. He was president at the time, and it was 15 days to slow the spread. Well, that 15 days turned into. I mean, it turned into years. And for me, I acknowledged that right away. I went, this is the worst thing to do, is to shut down society. It's the most unhealthy thing to do, is. And. But it was Donald Trump that did it. And then even worse, it was Republicans that came behind him and passed the CARES act, which was like $5.2 trillion, which started. That was the start of the inflation climbing. And I had a hard time because I recognized that at the time, but it went against my belief system because I was very. I've always been very maga, always been very America first and just hardcore in that line, and supporting President Trump like I always have, that was tough for me. But we can't be honest with ourselves and we can't be honest with one another if we aren't willing to recognize that everyone is named in the Epstein files at some level, in some capacity. And every single one of them, every single one of them owes answers to all of us. And many of them should be investigated, and many of them should be prosecuted, and they should go to prison.
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Jillian Michaels
You know, here's another one that I want to bring up that I have theorized about. And we have watched people. Patrick. But Dave, a host of podcasters and independent journalists, Tucker, propose that the war in Ukraine was orchestrated on purpose, arguably in order to grab all of Ukraine's resources. So they've got the breadbasket, which has historically fed all of Europe. It's the most valuable farmland, I guess, outside of Iowa, in the world. They've got minerals all Kinds of stuff. And the guy that has the contract to go in and rebuild it is Larry Fick.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Right.
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Jillian Michaels
And it's all under the pretense of such a good guy. We're gonna go in, we're gonna rebuild. It's gonna be amazing. But you're gone. Wait a second. Hold on. And it turns out that they're now in a war, and we give them all these weapons, and then it's, like, up. But you owe that money back, and the World bank is gonna force you to give over your mineral rights and the land rights to the farmland.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
And.
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Jillian Michaels
And you're thinking this feels on purpose. Cut to the frigging Epstein files. Where all the way back in 2014. And I want to ask you about this family, because I know you've spoken about them before. There are email exchanges between Epstein and Ariane de Rothschild, representative of Edmond de Rothschild Group, a big banking family. And Epstein reportedly described the situation in Ukraine as offering significant financial potential. With some reports and headlines described this context as a. The coup in 2014 that they wanted to help facilitate, where they got a democratically elected leader kicked out of there. So this is all under the context of the maiden events. And then they've got him talking to an unidentified woman saying that corruption in Ukraine is sophisticated. Huge, quote, money will be made. And he wants her to become a, quote, female oligarch. He's trying to get a meeting with Putin at the time, but it got complicated because I guess they shot down a plane over Ukraine, the MH17. Then you have him again in 2017. 2019. You have Epstein again in 2019, talking to this guy, Miroslav Lazak, who was president of the UN General assembly at the time, saying that he needs to intercede in the election there between Petro Poroshenko and Volodymyr Zelensky. Intercede to do what? To make sure you've got a war that you can pillage and plunder. And the best part is that the whole time, he's communicating about this to Larry Summers, who is the former US Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton, the former head of the National Economic Council under Barack Obama, the former president of Harvard University, and the longtime advisor to Wall street central banks and global institutions. So, long story short, all we know is this guy has been involved since 2014 in destabilizing Ukraine so they can all make money. And here you're being told that you're nuts for years, that you're insane, you're crazy. It's all conspiracy, and it's all because. And I do think Putin is a horrible monster, but it's all just because Putin is a horrible monster.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah. How is.
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Jillian Michaels
Tell me. Sorry, I don't mean to.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Improving is easy at Lowe's. No, you laid that out so well. And, you know, when you lay that out, all I could think about is how many people have died in that war. Right. We don't even know the numbers, honestly. They. They throw out numbers, but we don't really know the numbers of how many young men have. Have died, been forced to the front lines and died. It's. It's actually horrific, you know, but. But honestly, it's a business model. So I like the way you laid it out because, you know, these Epstein files and Jeffrey Epstein seems to be magically at the center of every single major happening in the past two decades, which is incredible. And because our American news media is so horrible, most of us, as Americans, we don't really know what's happening throughout the world. And the Ukraine war truly did start happening pre2014. It was a civil war skirmish and, you know, constantly fighting back and forth in that Donbas region, which was an area of Ukraine that is Russian speaking Ukrainians. And those Russian speaking Ukrainians really wanted to be part of Russia. And so there was fighting back and forth over that area. Interestingly enough, the Donbas region also happens to be the region that is filled with all of those rare earth minerals and masses, amount of natural resources and wealth. And so that's just another interesting factor. But our CIA, our government was very much involved going back to 2014 and before that in this, this building escalation that turned into a war between Ukraine and Russia. Just. Just for the. Just to note something, I voted no from the very beginning to fund any US Tax dollars to that war, because I was just very much against it. And Ukraine is not a member of NATO, so we are not contractually bound, even though I'm opposed to the war, we are not contractually bound to defend Ukraine. And you mentioned the Breadbasket of the world. Yeah, Ukraine was called the. It's no longer, but it was called the breadbasket of the world. And Russia also happens to be a major producer of grains as well. And so that war has completely destabilized the entire world's economy and driven inflation based. Based on that and also how it changed energy and selling oil with, with Russia. Russia, it changed dramatic dramatically. And the US they put sanctions on Russia and so forth. So, you know that war is actually central to many of the problems that people don't realize when you go to the checkout, your prices have gone up. And that war is one of the reasons why the prices of all kinds of goods have gone up. Unfortunately, it's that way, but. No, it is, it is. This is a business model. And so these people, these extremely rich, powerful people, all these people named in the Epstein files, it wasn't good enough for them to run a business like most of us do, where we might create a product and we work to sell it in stores and get it on store shelves, or we create a service that we sell to Americans. They can buy our service or maybe even internationally. They moved past that. And so they moved into literally a way to. And it's. Ukraine's just one of them. There's many countries they've done this in where they work with our, you know, the CIA and intelligence parts of governments, and they go in and literally destabilize and provide regime change in order to create a. Basically a playing ground where they can capitalize on it. And that is what that. Everything you just read there was what they were lining up to do in Ukraine. And, and they're. They haven't fulfilled it yet. You mentioned the Rothschilds. Well, they're a central piece of it because they're a banking, you know, they're part of banking. You need big, big banks to loan money to, to be able to create capital. And we're seeing the same thing. The groundwork being laid to happen in Gaza with the major developments. They're talking about being built there. And that's to me horrific because of how many innocent people have been killed there. But we've seen this happen over and if people really think about it, it has happened over and over and over. And I think it's just, it's so, so extremely bad that I really hope that Americans hold, hold our government accountable. It's the only way that it will ever change.
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Jillian Michaels
But, but how, like that's the problem is when you look at as like I've been going on a deep dive to do a full expose on the COVID piece with Gates and Clinton that I'm gonna put out next week. But the only thing I am missing is the connection to Wuhan. So when people are like, well, we gotta proceed how? Like you've got a fund that they're starting to do bio surveillance. It's not illegal to do vaccine production and distribution. Not illegal. This censorship industrial complex that Gates orchestrated, he is the key architect and it's technically not illegal the way that he's doing it. So basically they lobby the government to silence a narrative, but because it goes against the First Amendment, they then outsource that silencing to NGOs and think tanks.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
Then direct the social media platforms to quiet people like, you can't. There's nothing tangible to prosecute. And then, you know, they're like, oh, gee willikers, here's that pesky pandemic we've been predicting for a decade. That's, by the way, man made and, you know, engineered through gain of function research. But there's, you can't find the link between, you know, the Gates or this whole group creating that virus in particular. There's no link between them creating Covid and subsequently releasing Covid. All you know is it made it out, it escaped the lab and, you know, we do these gain of function research experiments.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
In order to build you better vaccines down the road. For a pandemic, you can't go after it. It's impossible.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
There's not like a. They're there, but there is a lot of evidence that they created the COVID SARS virus. They did early on, and I would say it was before 2019. They had patents for vaccines. They created this thing early on, not just in Wuhan. I think that's something that we don't want to be too hung up on Covid, because that was actually, I mean, my gosh, we're looking at six years ago, seven years ago. It's. What are they doing now? That's, that's what kind of keeps me up at night. I having, having served on that committee, to me, it's clear in my mind, yeah, this Covid, this virus was created. It. Whether it leaked on purpose or it leaked on accident, it did get out and it spread throughout humanity, all over the world. And they magically had a vaccine to fix it. And I was so against the vaccine. I actually got banned on Twitter back in 2022 for an entire year. My personal account was banned because I had spoken out so loudly like the FDA should never approve the vaccines. I said, the vaccines are going to kill people. Like I was nuts over it. And. But here's let's ask this. You know, we talked about Ukraine. Well, there were. There's biolabs in Ukraine. What is happening now to those bio labs and what was in those bio labs and where are they now? And who's got it? And then here, just a couple of weeks ago, there was an Israeli man arrested for having some kind of biological vials and. And things that came from a lab. And I think he had them in the garage. And. And they linked him. They had him linked to China, but he was an Israeli man. It's like, what is that all about?
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Jillian Michaels
Saw that. Was that out of Las Vegas. And it was like Ebola and Covid, and nobody. Nobody talked about it, but the world is moving so fast that you're like, hold on, we're on to Epstein. Wait a second. This is happening. Hold on. I saw that, and I just didn't have a.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
It was a blip. It was like a bloop. Here's a news story. It's like you said, the news cycle is moving so fast now that we have. I call it outrage overload. It's like standing in the waves at the ocean, and the waves are hitting you in the face constantly. And just when you recover from one wave and you get the salt water out of your eyes and you can breathe, you're hit with another one. And it's just constant. And I don't think we're meant to be able to digest this type of. This type of information so fast.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
So, no, I mean, you're just like me and you and everybody else. It was like, wait, what. What was that story and what happened to him and what government is he linked to and why did he have it? But the question is, what is next? And the one that also concerns me, and this is Bill Gates. Bill Gates and others, is I'm one of those crazy people that doesn't like them spraying things in the sky about disaster profiteering talk.
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Jillian Michaels
I used to think you were crazy with this. I literally would be like, okay, all right, sure. They're making. You know, they're making hurricanes. Okay.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And it all turned out to be true. Can you please elaborate on this?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah, it's insane, and it's true. Yes, they can. They can absolutely create weather. It's. It's. It's a real thing. Cloud seeding is real. It's. It's actually very common practice. It happens all over the United States. It's not just our government, state governments, but also private entities. Even ski resorts pay for cloud seeding because they make more Money when there's plenty of snow on their slopes. And so they'll hire companies to do cloud seeding so they can hopefully get more snowfall. But there's many different types of technology to create weather. And this is very much an industry that has been very invisible and called conspiratorial. But it's not. It is honestly not. And our government, you can. You can research it. I introduced a bill called the Clear Skies Act. If it had passed, it won't pass, though, because they won't vote for it. But it would make it a federal law. It would ban geoengineering, the one that is most concerning. More so than maybe creating too much rain that could create floods. Or there was actually. They created or added to the amount of rainfall. I forget what year it was, but Savannah, Georgia, got hit. I mean, this is documented. This isn't. This isn't a conspiracy theory, but it's actually documented. But it was decades ago that a hurricane, it actually hit Savannah after they had done a lot of cloud seeding. And the amount of rainfall was so horrific that, you know, people died in that hurricane. And so it's. It's. It is documented that it can get out of control. Happened over in the Middle East. Was it Dubai? I think they did a lot of cloud seeding over there, and they had torrential rainfall, and they had heavy flooding. And over there, in their news and the international news, literally blamed cloud seeding and geoengineering for the reason why they had such horrific flooding. But in America, they're like, oh, you're crazy. You know, but. But here's the one that I think. I think this is extremely over, over the top. And Bill Gates is very involved in it. And it's. They want to block out the sun. They are spraying stuff in the sky to block out the sun's rays. I believe the sun is healthy. I. I want sun. I think it gives us vitamin D. It provides nutrients to our soil. It helps our food grow. I mean, I'm just a big believer, and I think the sun is great. I don't want skin cancer, but the sun is great.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm a big believer in the health benefits of our star that brings life to the planet. Like, the fact that you have crazy. This is so. The fact that you have to say it. Like, I'm trying. I'm having, like, an existential crisis this whole week because I just cannot believe this is all happening.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
It's real.
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Jillian Michaels
So why are we blocking out the sun? I'm sorry, what would be the benefit of that.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Because Bill Gates has made a fortune on the climate agenda. And it's more of that type of. They create these industries and they get extremely rich. I mean, look at Al Gore. Al Gore comes out with this whole freaking climate agenda thing, and look at how rich he got over the decades of all of this. And here's so Bill Gates, this is his climate agenda and a way for him to make money. And they are actually, believe it or not, they are actually already doing it. They are 100% spraying it into the sky to reduce the amount of sunlight, block out the sun. And I think it's like. I think that's crimes against humanity because it's. If they were doing it in a lab, okay. And you're trying this out in the lab, fine, Bill Gates go in your little warehouse and do whatever weird stuff you're doing, as long as it doesn't affect my life or my family's life and doesn't affect our soil and our food and anything and our water, clean air. But if you're. You can't. I don't give them permission. I don't give anyone permission to go try out something that could lead to detrimental effects on our health, could lead to widespread disease or death or hurt our food supply. Like, to me, that's crimes against humanity. And I think everyone should say that.
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Jillian Michaels
Where are they doing this? You say they're already doing this. Where?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
The uk. It is being done in the UK recently, and I need to look into it more. I can't say this for sure, but I think they were trying to do it in parts of the United States, but it is very much a new thing. It's not new. It's new to us.
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Jillian Michaels
Yep, I got it.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
It's new to us. Yeah. So it's something that they're leaning into. And I think everyone should say, no, no, you can't do this. And we don't give you permission to do this. Absolutely not. It's. We don't live. Our Earth is not their lab where we get to be what we're not, the lab rats.
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Jillian Michaels
So here's my question, though. We say no, but we vote for people like yourself to say no for us. Now you're telling me that you put forward a bill which, to be fair, I vaguely remember. I feel like this is like within the last. Like a year ago or so. I kind of remember this year. And this is when I woke up and was like, holy cow, is this real? And you had people coming out and blowing the whistle and talking about crazy storms. That were wrecking lives in the country. And I remember thinking like, all right, I can't mentally process this right now. So, you know, we're processing all these other things in my outrage overload. But I do remember that. And now you've got this bill and we've all said no, you've put this forward and. But you're telling me they're not going to vote yes on it. Why?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Why? Well, here comes the black pill, and I'm sorry to be offering it. Here you go. It's Washington, Congress and the Senate. Pretty much everyone elected, for the most part, would never vote for a bill like that because the people that donate to them would block it and tell them, do not vote for this. And this goes back to the world that everyone has gotten a peek look into through the Epstein files. The House and the Senate on both sides of the aisle. Most members of Congress and most senators are largely controlled by the richest donors in our country, and they're largely controlled by the lobbyists that represent the biggest industries in our country. And that is a just a flat out fact. And once you are able to accept that, then it all starts to slowly fall into place. And that I didn't before I became a member of Congress. That was some. That wasn't something I understood. So just for you and your listening audience, I was extremely naive when I ran for Congress. I'm talking about I was the dumbest person on the planet. I genuinely believed that I could get elected and I could go to Washington and I could say, hey, we need to pass a balanced budget amendment because our debt is too much money. And I just believed that as a member of Congress, I could do things like that. Well, when I got here, I found out, oh, no, it doesn't work that way. Sorry, Marjorie, you are dumb. You've realized you got to learn the ways of Washington. And, and it is very. There is very much an agenda in place and there are controlling industries and controlling donors, no matter who is in charge. That's why a lot of the spending and appropriation bills look very similar in many ways with just some arguments on each side with like social issues or certain different political agenda issues. But when you boil them all down, they fund all the same stuff. Basically, the basic funding components fund the military industrial complex, they fund big Pharma, they give out the NGO and they give out the government contracts. And it will do that no matter which party's in charge. And somebody like me can't stop it. And so the hard reality that I have to tell you and people that are watching is, you cannot vote your way out of this. It is not going to change. It will not change. No matter. You can, okay? You can. People can be mad this time, say they're mad at Republicans for xyz, whatever it may be, and they get Democrats in there to control the House and Senate or whatever. Nothing's really going to change. You're still going to get most the same effects and say, if you're a Republican voter and you just like me, was very much against the four years of the Biden administration, you're like, oh, heck, no, we're not going back to that. We're going to fight to keep Republicans, keep the House in the Senate. Well, guess what? We're still going to get a lot of the same results. And when you get someone in, like I got in, I was not supported by anybody. As a matter of fact, I had like 30, I think it was 36 Republican members of Congress were donating to my opponent. When I first ran For Congress in 2020, every Republican state legislature except two in my district were for my opponent. I mean, I had the whole Republican establishment against me. And then when I got in there, I, you know, I. I was fighting my own party just as much as I was fighting Democrats. And I'll use Thomas Massie, who I love Thomas Massie, as an example. Everybody's fighting Thomas Massie right now, and it's. It's terrible. But there's only a rare few that are actually representing their district and actually trying to do the right thing. And those are the people that the entire Washington establishment destroys. They. They will not let us be successful.
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Jillian Michaels
Fight because you feel it's impossible, because you feel you can do more outside of the machine. And I have questions about that a little bit later because I still have more to cover with you in this. In this realm. But why not stay and fight?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Well, I'll explain it to you like this. And so I supported President Trump more than pretty much anybody. Sure, I stood by him after January 6th. I said, he did not do that. I said, he's still my president. He's the leader of our party. I campaigned all over the country with him to help him get elected. Spent millions of. Spent millions of my own money supporting him and Republicans. I supported J.D. vance. I was the first member of Congress to endorse him when he ran for Senate and fought for him to be vice president. Like, when I said I was all in, I mean I was all in. And as a member of Congress, I donated all of My dues, literally at the beginning of every Congress to the nrcc. See, that's something you may not know. As members of Congress, we have to pay dues to our party, and Democrats pay to the dccc. Republicans pay to the nrcc. But most Republicans don't pay all their dues. I paid all of mine up front, hundreds of thousands of dollars. Here's a check. And I supported. Oh, my gosh, Jillian. I was all in. Well, when we won, and I was so happy we won, and I wanted to be. I got to be chair of the DOGE Subcommittee on Oversight, which I was so happy over, because the waste, fraud and abuse is one of my big issues. I can't take it. And I was like, this is finally our chance to do something. And most of my bills reflect executive orders that President Trump wrote. So I was like, oh, my bills are going to pass. I mean, this is going to be great. Finally, we're going to get something accomplished. And then we butted heads on only a couple of issues. I have a 98% voting record with the President. The first one was on a bill, the crypto bill. And the crypto bill had had a little loophole in it that was sort of a back door to a central bank, digital currency. That's something I'm very much against. I don't want a government or anybody to be able to turn on and off our bank accounts. And so. And there was a group of us. I wasn't by myself, so there was a group of us that were pushing the speaker and we're pushing the President to. We got to fix this. We cannot have a loophole in place, in law that could actually allow a future government to create a central bank, digital currency and control all of our money. And it never got fixed. And so I voted no. I voted no to that bill. So that was my strike one, right? Yeah, that was my strike one. And. But I didn't. I didn't think that shouldn't be a big deal. I should be able to vote my conscience. I should be able to vote for my district. And. Yeah, and then it was the first time when they bombed Iran. And, I mean, believe me, I have no love for the ayatollahs, and of course, I feel sorry for the Iranian people, but I'm just very anti war. And I believe our. Yeah, our tax dollars should go for America. We are in enough debt. Let's fix our country. And so that was strike two. I was. I was opposed to bombing Iran, but then we came up against the Epstein Files. This was a no brainer. I was like, I heard Donald Trump talk about Epstein and Clinton back in, like 2015.
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Jillian Michaels
I saw it. Sean Hannity on stage, Bill Clinton, nice guy.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Got a lot of problems coming up.
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Jillian Michaels
In my opinion, with the famous island, with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
A lot of problems.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes, I remember. I remember it completely.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
So I could not fathom that the releasing the Epstein files would be a problem. But guess what? That became the biggest problem. And the President was furious at me, and he had Mike Johnson blocking our bill to release the Epstein files. The rules committee in the House was completely shut down for weeks. We went into a government shutdown. And a lot of people don't realize a lot of the reason why we were in the government shutdown and Mike Johnson wouldn't reopen the house for eight weeks was because it was to prevent the discharge petition from passing and us being able to vote to release the Epstein files.
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Jillian Michaels
Wait, I'm sorry.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Wait, wait.
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Jillian Michaels
Hold up.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Sorry.
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Jillian Michaels
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah, the.
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Jillian Michaels
Wait, the one that the Democrats. Wait, the one that the Democrats shut down the government because they wanted health care for people who are here illegally?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yes.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay, so you're telling me that the Republicans also wanted the shutdown so that nobody could vote on Epstein?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yes, yes. There's a lot of, there's some conveniences about a big government shutdown is it stops the House floor from doing business. And so just to. Just to shed some light on that. So the big fight was about the ACA tax credits. And that is actually a really important issue. Like health insurance cost us way too much money. It's ridiculous. Nobody can afford health insurance. Nobody. House insurance, car insurance. It is outrageous. I mean, I think that's one of the biggest issues that our government should be working on. So I was screaming on the sidelines, hey, hey, Speaker Johnson, Republican colleagues, Democrats destroyed our insurance industry with Obamacare. Then they added to the problem with the ACA tax credits. When is our party actually going to do something to fix this for Americans? Because nobody can afford it. And so that is a very important real issue. But it became the shiny object and it became the big fight because Democrats needed something to fight on. They have been losing on every issue. And back at that time, they had that's an issue. And they, they had more support from Americans because Americans are saying we can't afford it. So it became an issue and they shut down the government. But what happened at the time was there was a Democrat special election and we only had, you have to have 218 signatures on a discharge petition to get a bill to the House floor. So there's only two ways a bill can be voted on. One, the speaker says, yes, let's bring this bill to the floor. And he can bring any bill to the floor he wants. Then the only other way is if the speaker won't bring the bill and you have 218 out of 435 members of Congress that say, you know what, we are going to override the speaker and we are going to push to get this bill to the floor. That's how we got the Epstein Kyle's bill out. So we had two. When the government shut down, we had 217 signatures. But a special election happened and a Democrat got elected. And she said, the first thing, I'm going to do is I'm going to sign the discharge petition. And she was the 218th signature. And Johnson, there was no reason for the House to be shut down. The Senate was the problem. That's where the fighting was over health care. That's where the, the House funded the government. We did our job. That went to the Senate. The Senate was the hold up. They wouldn't fund the government. But Johnson kept the House shut down for eight weeks to prevent that Democrat, that new Democrat, from being sworn in as a member of Congress to sign the discharge petition. Yes, that's what happened. That's why they drug it out. This is insane. Yes.
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Jillian Michaels
Once again, people didn't get paid. Nobody could make ends meet. Everything was in a state of chaos. To continue to try and protect the exact same elites that have committed these crimes, these crimes against all this is insane.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
That's how bad it is.
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Jillian Michaels
This is insane. Okay?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yes. And so then, so this happens and they have the big fake shutdown fight, which was fake, by the way, because Republicans at any time could have said, forget the filibuster, we're funding the government, but they didn't. And then the Democrats at any time could have voted on the exact same bill that they had already voted on to fund the government, but they didn't. And they created this healthcare fight, which has some legitimacy because healthcare and health insurance is a major problem. But what was happening on the background was that it was all being delayed to release the Epstein files. Okay, so we finally come back, the House finally goes back in session, they fund the government, yada yada. Mike Johnson swears every day that he's got a health insurance plan, which, by the way, he has never brought it out. That's another story. But we come back and the Democrats, she gets sworn in, she signs the discharge petition. And then that ripened the discharge petition after seven days, and we voted on that bill. Here's the interesting part, okay? There were only four Republicans, only four of us that signed that discharge petition. Thomas Massie, myself, Lauren Boebert, and Nancy Mace. Now what was happening in the background for months leading up to when we finally got it released is we were getting pressure from the White House. We were getting pressure from the Speaker. Do not take your name off this discharge petition. And we're like, why? This is. We're talking about the Epstein files. This is the ultimate, the ultimate promise. This is the ultimate way to provide transparency. This is the ultimate way to take it to the deep state and expose a whole criminal cabal of rich, powerful elites. That I believe control everything. And guess what? Come to find out they do.
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Jillian Michaels
They do.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
And you know, so. So we're like, why? So in the meantime, President Trump is calling Epstein, the whole thing a hoax. He's calling a Democrat hoax. He won't have anything to do with the women. He still refuses to have anything to do with these women. So this whole thing is building. The women are saying President Trump did nothing wrong. They still say this President Trump did nothing wrong. They're attorney says President Trump, Donald Trump's the only one that helped us. And guess what? That came out in the Epstein files that he reported Jeffrey Epstein. So, like. But Donald Trump is fighting it. President Trump is fighting it. President Trump is yelling at me. President, the White House is putting pressure on Nancy Mace. They take Lauren Boebert in a skiff. I don't even know what they said to her in there. They are attacking Thomas Massie non stop attacking Thomas Massie. And then one day I get a phone call from the President in September and he is so mad at me and he's yelling at me and he's angry at me. And the fact that he's like, you're supporting Rand Paul Jr. And he's chewing me out for signing my name on Thomas Massie's discharge petition to release the Epstein files. And I'm trying to tell him, Mr. President, they say you did nothing wrong. This needs to be come out. And so we're having this argument and he tells me on this phone call, he's like, marjorie, my friends will get hurt.
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Jillian Michaels
That's it. That's it. I mean, that is it. Obviously that's it. Because they're all in here. Imagine the phone calls. It's everyone. It's every single person is on this fricking list. They're all there. Every billionaire, heads of state, Larry Summers, Peter Thiel, they're all in there. And you know what? I remember this is a bit of a sidebar, but also a precursor. Trump was the one that wanted to take down Twitter. Not Twitter, TikTok. Do you remember that? He was the one that was like, this is like a Chinese plant. This thing needs to be sunset night, night, TikTok. And everybody was having a meltdown about that.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
I voted no to that one too. I voted no to the TikTok ban.
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Jillian Michaels
They gave him a bunch of money for his campaign and all of a sudden, guess who saved TikTok? And the thing of it is, listen, a lot of my viewers get very upset, but I like guys, I'm sorry, you guys get upset when we point out things about Donald Trump that are not great. But the reality is I can't fold to audience capture. And you guys need to know the truth, and the truth is more important than. Than tribalism. Do I think Trump is a better option than Kamala Harris? Oh, my God, absolutely. But what I refuse to do, he is not a perfect human being. And the reality is that I've already seen it once. I remember with TikTok thinking, wait, you were the dude, you were the guy that initiated the whole night night for TikTok, and now you're the guy that saved it because they donated to the campaign. And my guess is it's the same flip flop times a million. Because imagine the phone calls. Everybody's life is going to be ruined. The most powerful people in the world. And by the way, Marjorie, when I look at this, I'm like, hold on. Like, you didn't actually raid the island. You didn't raid the ranch in New Mexico. Like, you didn't take the tapes that were left in the penthouse. You've redacted all of these files. There's supposedly another data dump that we're never going to see. What we've seen so far, I'm told, is the tip of this evil.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yes.
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Jillian Michaels
Iceberg.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yes. Because there's 3 million more files that have not been released. And my understanding is those are worse. And out of the millions of files that have been released, a lot of it has been redacted that shouldn't be redacted. And so, yes, there's a lot more to come out. And yes, it's really bad. And you know what? I totally agree with you. Like, I 100% support the Trump administration. I'm so thankful for the secure border. I am so thankful that our economy is stabilizing. There's so much to be thankful for. Of course I support that. But it's like, everybody, stop being so blinded. You're not. I mean, are you in a cult? He's not a God. He is a man. And if we can't recognize the good and the bad in a man, then. Then I'm. We're. We're living a lie. And yes, Donald Trump is the same guy that, that shut down the. The country with COVID He's also the same guy that fast tracked the COVID vaccine, which I'm very much against. He's also the same guy, like you said, that came out against TikTok and then somehow made sure it was sold to one of his friends who's in the Epstein files. And if people aren't willing to take off their blinders and look at this, I'm sorry, you're living in a lie. You're choosing to live in a fantasy land, because that is the truth. We can say thank you for these policies and at the same time be.
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Jillian Michaels
Like, but not those. Don't do that. That is not okay. Here's the line. And you know what else that nobody ever talks about? And listen, I don't think this was nefarious by Trump at all. I think that he kind of gets. He takes advice. Not this particular thing I'm gonna bring up. He takes advice from experts and it's like, sounds good. He's the one who lifted the moratorium. A gain of function research in 2016. Obama shut it down because it was so dangerous. And Fauci went to him. Who this piece of crap.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Who?
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Jillian Michaels
Fauci, who existed through every single administration, just like Jeff Epstein. And it was like, hey, we need this. And I'm sure Trump was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, Science, I love it. Sounds good. I don't think he really comprehended it at the time, but he already.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Or did he?
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Jillian Michaels
I don't know.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
I mean, I don't know.
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Jillian Michaels
I don't know. I don't.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Now that you said files, it makes you question, like, what did they plan on purpose? And what was just like you said. He said, that sounds great. He said, from the baby boomer generation and they love every vaccine. And he thought, okay, this is going to save people's lives. I mean, who knows? We don't know. But with the Epstein files, how. How I feel about it is I fought for President Trump more than anyone. When every Republican in here, in Washington, except a few, Matt Gaetz and a few of us, were like, literally, literally holding meetings to get rid of him and make sure he could never come back. I mean, they were done, absolutely done. I was fighting for him. And then I get. We run into the Epstein files and I made a decision. Am I going to bow and. And take a command from the president that I helped get elected and have supported for 10 years? Am I going to just say, okay, I'm going to take my name off the discharge petition, or am I going to stand what it for what is right? Women who were raped as teenagers. I'm a woman myself. I'm a mother. I have two daughters. I have three children. Two of them are my daughters. I'm going to stand with women who were raped as teenage girls. It's black and white to me. And So I refuse to do it. And then, next thing you know, here comes out a late night truth social on a Friday night that calls me a traitor, which is what, by our law, traitors are either imprisoned or put to death. And I'm like, you're calling. It was a very interesting name, a traitor. And what he meant is I was a traitor to him. Not to the country and not to the American people, but to him, I was a traitor. And that. That resonated with me really hard. And then he said he's going to primary me. I'm like, okay, now you're going to put. He's got. They have, I think, what is it, like $2 billion in their super PAC and he's got a massive campaign machine. And they're going to put that on top of me like they're doing to Thomas Massie after all that I have done, because I'm standing with women who were raped as teenagers. And then it was a few days after that, I started getting serious death threats. Serious death threats and a pipe bomb, death threat on my home, pipe bomb, death threat on my family construction business, and then direct death threats on my youngest child, my son. And those started coming in. And it was dealt with. So many death threats. We reported, I think, 773 official death threats. And they have to reach a certain criteria before we can report them to Capitol Police. And I dealt with that. But when they came in on my child, on my own child, based on the president's language and that's what the death threats were, it was because he called me a traitor. My son is going to be threatened to, you know, be killed. So that came in and I sent that death threat to send it to the President. I texted it to him, I texted it to JD Vance, I texted it to Cash Patel, I texted it to Susie Wiles and James Blair. And I said, the. The President's words are bringing death threats on my son. And I. Tash Patel said he was on it. J.D. vance was great, responded compassionately, said, we'll do everything we can. He was great. Never heard a word from James Blair or Susie Wiles, a woman herself and a mother and a grandmother. Chief of staff. Never heard a word from her. The president himself texts me back and is very nasty and tells me that it's my fault, that this is totally my fault. He blames me for the death threats coming in on my own son, has no compassion, basically says, well, you know, basically saying, if your son gets killed, it's your own fault. And you deserve it. That's basically his response to me saying, no, I am standing with girls who were raped as teenagers. And, you know, Jillian, as a woman, and I want to set an example for other women and especially younger women. You should never allow any man to treat you that way. You should never, never tolerate that from a boyfriend or a husband or any man, a boss or any. Anybody in your life. You should never have to do something morally wrong to bend to what they're trying to force on you. But when it comes to a point where they're basically saying, I don't care if your son dies. And I said, I was like this. When it comes to children, like, there's. This should never be an issue. And. But no, that's what he said. And this, this was two months. It was barely two months after Charlie Kirk had been assassinated. And we, we. You know, Charlie was a friend of. For all of us and was so raw at that time. And I was like, wait a minute. So I'm gonna have to spend every penny I have to try to win my primary against the president that I supported. Not a single Republican that I serve with, who I donated to all of them and paid all of my dues, not one of them came out and publicly defended me. I'm. My own child's life is being threatened basically because of the president. Like, what is this job that became to me too much. No one should have to deal with why, why, and then what happens? So if we lose the House, I'm going to be expected to go in there and defend this president from impeachment. Like, are you serious? After he treated me this way, it's just like it was. It was all too, way too much. And I have. I have integrity. I have self respect, and I love my district. Oh, my gosh. I've done everything I can for them. There was nothing more I could do. This Congress, I already did all the appropriation requests, all the funding that I think is important for the district that was already in place. There was literally nothing more I could do for them. And I was like, I'm not willing to die. I'm not willing to watch one of my kids get killed. I'm not willing to be treated this way. And that, I think, is extremely important.
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Jillian Michaels
You know, I gotta be honest with you at this point. Point, I think death is on the table for anybody and everybody. Yes, I really do. And I just cannot, you know, to illustrate some of the evil from the people that you were determined to bring out into the light. We have Some exchanges here, just random ones to illustrate this stuff, like beyond. I listen, I completely think it is absolutely disgusting what has happened to these young girls. But it is unfortunately very apparent that this is even darker than that. For example, this is from who I guess would be maybe one of Epstein's assistants. Right. Just to illustrate some of the things you're talking about. Hi, Rich. Jeffrey is asking if you can FedEx the painting he had made of the Massacre of the innocents to the ranch. It's the large nine by nine canvas that he had rolled out for him to see in the entryway where they're killing babies. He wants to use it on the ranch and is hoping you could FedEx it to arrive Wednesday, thinks Sarah. This is a real. We fact checked this. This is a real email and there's. There's tons of them. There's a chain like, about jerky, which I'm sure you've seen this. Correct? You've seen the jerky thing.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yes.
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Jillian Michaels
Where they're. They're talking. In fact, you know what? Maybe we should just play this for anybody who hasn't seen this. But it appears to be that they're talking about eating human flesh.
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Voice Actor / Reader
Hope you are feeling better. Did we analyze the jerky? Why didn't we get jerky this week? I also added more to the jerky and ginger lemongrass. Thank you so much. Super cool beef jerky. Delicious. Jojo is here and we'll walk the jerky over to Jeffrey. We'll walk the jerky over to Jeffrey. Why would jerky walk around? Why would it do that? Delicious lunch. Beef jerky.
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Jillian Michaels
Mmm.
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Voice Actor / Reader
Steve and I are very grateful above all for your friendship. Some of these emails are so wholesome, aren't they? It's too bad they eat kids. A small insulated bag would be fine. I don't ruin checking it. No need for crazy amounts of ice. One should do. There is one bag of beef jerky in the fridge. Please get it. Also Blank has more at her place. Please get it from her as well. I suppose it needs to be in a cold insulated bag.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay. I mean, what in the. I'm just like. You've seen so much of it. What in the world could they be talking about? Obviously jerky does not go in a fridge. A cold insulated bag. It doesn't wall.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Right.
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Jillian Michaels
It's clearly a code name like everything else. Hot dogs, pizza, cheese pizza. These are clearly code words. There's one that even kind of got exposed about shrimp, where I guess a shrimp is an ugly woman. So it's like you remove the head off of shrimp and you just eat the body. So that one was kind of exposed what that code word was. But these people are so evil. There's one other chain I wanna read you. And I find this just like this is between Epstein and Steve Bannon. These are all disconnected, but all some sort of bizarre insight into how dark and how sick. So this one is between Epstein and Bannon. And he's talking about. Okay, the subject matter is the most powerful US group, much stronger than the military. I'm resting with how you get these guys on your side. You want disruption.
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Voice Actor / Reader
Wow.
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Jillian Michaels
That's from Epstein to Bannon. They all need the China speech as they are enamored with the size and naively do not recognize the ruse. Bannon, do you know these guys? Epstein. Some of the founders and organizers. They're the most dangerous force in today's society. All caps by far. Exclamation, exclamation, exclamation. Bioweapons. What other 60 year old tech frightens you? Space frontier can't operate without software. Bannon this group most dangerous. Question mark. Wow. You know these guys? Question mark. Question mark. Question mark. What's a 20k reference? Do you think I could get an invite to speak? Epstein abandoned. There are 20,000 hackers showing up at the same place. They will be sharing ideas on hacking crypto exchanges, voting booths, medical records, crypto wallets, denial of service attacks, competitions as to which team can break a secure code. A Jeopardy. Style competition. Re breaking phones, networks, hacking self driving cars and planes. Bannon. Get it? Marjorie. What kind of evil is this?
- [79:45]
Marjorie Taylor Greene
What?
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Jillian Michaels
What kind of evil? Like, and I, I listen, I, I, I appreciate everyone like, it's disgusting what happened to these girls. But I, I, I, I. This is, this is. What is this? Tell me what this is. Dude, help me. What is the evil? How is it, how are this many people this evil?
- [80:08]
Marjorie Taylor Greene
It's, it's, I know it's really, it's terrible. It's, it's honestly, it's, it's power and money. It truly corrupts and it rots people's souls. And it, it, I think that's honestly what everybody's getting to look at in these Epstein files.
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Jillian Michaels
But of course they can't come out though. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but of course they can't come out. Didn't Bannon help Trump win in 2016? No wonder they can't come out. Look, look at this. I, I'm, I'm unraveling.
- [80:37]
Marjorie Taylor Greene
He said my friends Will get hurt.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
He said, marjorie, people, you know, that's what he said. And so I'm telling you, like, I will forever be very, very firm in my decision, because, you know, a lot of people, when they will cave when they say people, you know, are gonna be hurt by this. Well, you know what? It's the most important thing. People have already been hurt.
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Jillian Michaels
Right.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Like, and we don't even know the depths of it. We know. Well, we know women were raped. They came out and told us publicly. They. They physically shook. Watch them physically shake and cry. And. And. And as they told their stories for the first time in front of cameras, most intimidating cameras you've ever seen. A mountain of press staring them down with cameras and microphones. And they told their stories. And some of them had told the stories for the first time publicly, and their families didn't even know, and they were telling the stories. They have so much shame. They're so guilty, and they have survivor's guilt, and that's just the piece of it. But what we're looking at, when you dig into the massive layers of the connections between, my God, all of these people, like the richest, most powerful people in the world, the decision makers tied in with government leaders and intelligence and banks, and looking at how they operate. And they gave no care. They gave no care to horrors and evil and the things that Jeffrey Epstein was doing, even to the point. Like, I read this morning that Dr. Oz invited Epstein to some Valentine's Day party he and his wife were having in 2016. This is. Dr. Oz is currently serving in the Trump administration over Medicare. Exactly. But this. That was post. That was after Epstein had been convicted. Convicted of pedophilia. So it's like, what. How did. How do these people. And that's the hardest part. These are people that we may love, people that we have cheered for, people that I know I supported. And it's both sides of the aisle. Everybody has got to come to the horrible, nasty truth in our faces that they are. Have all come together. And it was about making money, it was about influence, it was about power. And it is being part of the ruling world elites that have affected all of our lives. And if we as a country cannot swallow that down and hold our government accountable. Gillian, it's beyond. I think it's gone already, but it is pass on. If we cannot do that, seriously, if we can't say this. No. We've had it with every single one of you.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Out of here. What are we?
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Jillian Michaels
Can I ask you? Because I've noticed And there's been talk, right? And I've made notes on this, tell me where I'm right and I'm wrong. That there's a movement, and you're a part of it, to bring together a left wing economic populism and a right wing social populism that looks something like the following, right? So an economic philosophy that champions the common person against elites, corporations, billionaires and the financial establishment. Right. So the core belief is that which. I'm with you, I'm with you on this. The economic system is rigged by the wealthy to explore, exploit the working class. Key goals, redistribute, redistribute, redistribution of wealth so higher taxes on the rich and the corporations to fund public services. Tell me if I'm getting this right or wrong. Strong social safety nets, universal health care, free college, robust Social Security, labor power, strengthening unions and worker protections, protectionism, opposing free trade deals for free fair trade deals. And then on the right wing, social populism. A cultural philosophy that champions the people, often defended by nationality, ethnicity or tradition against a perceived cultural elite. Academics, the media, progressive activists. The core belief is that the nation's traditional identity, values and security are under attack by globalists, immigrants and woke culture. I'm there on the undocumented immigrants, but with that said, this is for people who feel economically abandoned and culturally alienated. Do you feel like this is a thing? And if so, are you a part of it?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
I haven't ever heard it. I haven't heard it read out like that before. And so I don't know that I subscribe to all of those policies. What I am 100% for is pulling the left and the right, the American people, pulling us back together. That's the America I love. This was before I got involved in politics. I was friends with everybody, we all were. Politics did not reign over our family get togethers, our social events, the freaking super bowl concerts, my God, everything. We had life and it was so fun. Oh my gosh, we had so much fun. Like our. I want to go back to the days of the government can be seen but not heard. Not heard. I don't want to hear a fucking thing you say. Shut up. Like I want that now. What does it look like policy wise? I, you know, I'm one of those got to get in the granular details and like read the actual legislation or the policy description and analyze, you know, well, how does that affect us? Can we actually afford that? I'm right. We're $40 trillion in debt and we're seven years away from Social Security being insolvent. Like, these are major problems. So, like, for. For as far as, like, the economic policies, I'd have to get more into to understand. But I think that what I want to see is. Is I. I just. I just love people. I love all the people. I don't. I don't care what group they are. I don't care the race, I don't care. Care whatever their sexual. This. I don't care about their religion. I just think that people are so great that we need to pull ourselves together and we have to hold our government accountable. That's what our founding fathers told us to do. Like, it's a mandate. Hold your government accountable. And we have lost ourselves. We have totally lost ourselves and been easily lulled and distracted into a world where we're just too busy or we're just too. I don't know. The American people have lost our identity. We come from a. You know, our ancestors are the same people that took down the most powerful king on the planet simply because they were pissed off about 3% taxes on their teeth. Like they were badasses. Why can't. Like, let's get back to that kind of thinking, you know, okay, we've got. Our government's a bunch of pedophiles and they're all in it together and they're eating children. Like, hold on. And our taxes are way past 3%. Like, we should be really, really mad. Really, really mad. And so I'm. I'm interested in, like, let's pull a movement together across the country to. That says enough.
- [88:22]
Jillian Michaels
So what do we do? So we're listening to you, right? We want to. We wanna lay down our tribalism at the door for a minute here. And we're all starting to wake up to the fact that this culture war is a frigging ruse and a distraction. Because this cabal is real. Very clearly. It's all in the emails now. The show's over. These go back years. This is real. This is happening. These are crimes against all of us as humans, right and left, every color, every religion, so and so and so forth. Let's unite over this. Come on, team. We've got a moment. Let's go. How, though? How, when Thomas Massie is being crucified, when you're exiting stage right, when John Fetterman. I don't know if you like this guy or not, but I do see his ability to kind of call out bullshit where he sees it. I don't know his policies, but I appreciate that he's willing to say, hey, not all Republicans are Nazis. The guys that go against the grain, they get primaried. And I have a feeling that if they make it past that, they will get disappeared. Yeah. So how?
- [89:26]
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Well, it's not going to be one thing that's going to fix it. And we have to all realize that this could be the hardest thing that any of us do in our lifetime. Because certainly when we've watched any people throughout history and they've made major changes to their government or major changes to the trajectory of their country, it was not easy. It just wasn't. But truthfully, if we look at one real fact, the American people are the ones that have the power. They pay all the taxes, they donate and vote to put these politicians into power. So when the American people recognize that they really have the power, then they have the power to begin a series of statements that lead to organized events, that leads to organized actions that reigns in our government and says, no, we're not going to tolerate this. And that's what I believe in. And do I have a plan laid out? No, I don't have a plan laid out, but I believe it takes many people coming together to, to create that plan. I don't, I don't think one person can do it on their own. And. But I think it's a willingness. And, you know, I realized something. I was like, I'm fighting this so hard, and I'm kind of on the battlefield by myself. And that's not cool. I don't, I don't really want to be out here fighting by myself. If nobody else is fighting, nobody else is willing to do this, then why am I, why am I out here, like, sacrificing myself? So it's going to take. It takes every. It really takes a lot of people. It can't take, you know, just a handful. It's. It really has to be the American people recognizing that we have a problem. And the problem is going to get real ugly really fast. And like I said, think about this. Social Security is insolvent in seven years. Seven years. That's crazy. Seven years, Social Security is insolvent. So this generation, the baby boomers, not the rich ones, a lot of them are really poor that live off of their Social Security checks. They're not going to be getting those Social Security checks in seven years. And me and you, our generation, well, we're screwed. And then the kids, forget it. They're never going to get a penny. Like, this is just, this is just one little problem that no one Talks about. But here we are. We're supposed to be. You know, I don't know. We're supposed to be looking at. We're getting stuff thrown in our face that we can't even mentally digest.
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Jillian Michaels
It's almost impossible. You're right.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Mm. What? Yeah. It's not an easy. It's not an easy fix. This is. We've hit a phase in our history that things are getting very bad, and it's not an easy fix. And I'll go back to the generation thing. Like, I love my parents. Generation baby boomers. Like, we. There's so many things we love about them that they're great. But, man, their generation. I really blame their generation. The ones that were in control. They created all our problems. They did. And they will not give it up. When I served in Congress. These people are old. I'm talking about nursing home old. They should not be in public old. And that sounds very cruel.
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Jillian Michaels
No, we've all seen it. I know exactly who you're talking about. We all know who you're talking about. They could barely put sentence together.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah. Yeah.
- [92:54]
Jillian Michaels
Wheeled in. Yeah.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
And then they barely can stand up, and it's like they can't walk. Why are we letting them vote?
- [93:02]
Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Like, guarantee you they can't drive a car. I guarantee you they cannot. I bet their driver's license has been taken away. But they're running the country. Yeah. I've watched. You wouldn't believe this one. Many members of Congress. I can't tell you how many late nights were on the House floor voting. And they're drunk. They have been drinking. They're slurring their words. It's terrible. And this is what's running your country. And then there's people in there that are just down and outright stupid. They're not. The only thing they can do is get elected, and that's how they're going to get their paycheck. And they will stay in there until they're in the wheelchair. And they should not be running the country. But that's the reality.
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Jillian Michaels
Yep. I've seen it. That's the reality. That's a lot of it. I mean, I've seen the people that don't know what they're doing. I've seen the people that hate America. I've seen the people that clearly are in the throes of severe cognitive decline. Didn't know the alcoholic part. Not surprised.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
And drugs.
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Jillian Michaels
Oh, my gosh. Okay, so. So now what is next for you?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Oh, for me? I'm having a great time. I went through the, I would say the hardest time of my life was, was running for Congress and being here for five years. I lost my father during that time to cancer. I went through a divorce. I was on the news every single day with news stories that I was horrified. Like, oh my God, they are flat out lying. My friends and family would send me like, I can't believe they're saying this about you. This is absolutely not true. And I'm like, I mean that was my day in and day out. No, I'm, I am very much. I've only been out of Congress since January 5th, so it hasn't. It's been barely over a month. I am seeing all my friends and family. I'm enjoying the heck out of that. And I'm honestly doing one day at a time right now. But I am interested in using my voice. I don't know what that looks like. I am interested especially in our kids generation, Gen Z. I mean I, that's the generation I care about the most. And I very much am interested in this left right coalition that says screw all of you to both the Democrats and the Republicans and says we're going to fit. We are going to make our demands. This is what we demand. And so I. That how that develops, I'm not sure.
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Jillian Michaels
Interesting. Well, I'll be following it very closely. And I. Is there anything I should have asked you that I didn't. I know you actually have a heart out. I could keep you for hours. But, but is there anything I should have. I should have asked you that I missed?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
No, I think we had, we had a great conversation. I would add one more thing is that for people, don't fall into the doom cycle. It's. No, the world is not ending. Or at least I don't think. I mean, I'm a Christian. I'm like, maybe it is. Who knows?
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Jillian Michaels
Today, hopefully not ending today.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah, this week, who knows? But I think that's the most important thing is don't allow this stuff to rob you of your joy and your happiness in life. Like, put it down. Just, it's. It's healthy to put it down. You know, get outside, touch grass, go do something fun, have a real conversation. Because I think, I think where we're at right now, a lot of people are either either overwhelmed by what they're seeing and reading in the news or, or, or it's actually done something really bad and it's pushed a lot of people out to completely check out. And you can't totally check out because then we really can't fix it then. But I think, I think the main thing is, is just be honest about. Okay? You yourself, you can't fix it, so it's okay to put it down for a little while and enjoy some happiness in your day, because no single person can do it alone. And I think people feel weighed down right now by a lot of that stuff.
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Jillian Michaels
Oh, man. My wife will not even talk about it with me. She's like, I can't. It's toxic. I'm like, but, honey, she's like, I, I can't. She's like, watching the Olympics.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
She can't. She won't have a lot of people. Like, well, it is, It's. It's too heavy.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
For, for a lot of people. It's.
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Jillian Michaels
I've tried. I'm like, but, honey, like, the Epstein stuff, I'm sitting there in bed reading this stuff, and I'm, I'm trying to tell her, and she's like, don't. I mean it. I don't want to know.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
I'm like, she wants to sleep. It's hard enough to sleep as a woman. She's like, I want to sleep. No, but I. Yeah, yeah, that's probably it.
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Jillian Michaels
That's definitely.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
That's a whole other conversation. We. Good point.
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Jillian Michaels
Well, I really, I, I, I really appreciate you taking this time to talk with me. I appreciate everything you've been through.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Thank you.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm a little late to that party, but I'm exceptionally interested to continue watching what you do. And I'm all for bringing the right and the left together and going after the real villains. So if I can be helpful with that, please know that I'm in your corner there, 100%.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Thank you. Oh, you're a strong voice. I really, I really think you could play a big role in that. And thank you for talking with me about all of this stuff instead of just talking about me. That's, that's what I really appreciate.
- [98:41]
Jillian Michaels
Last question, just for everybody following now, where would you like them to go to stay in touch with you? The socials. A website?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah, just my socials. It's former rep mtg now and then also MT Green E2E's on the end on. On X. But I'm, I'm on most of the platforms, so.
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Jillian Michaels
Perfect. Thank you so much. And I hope, I hope we can talk again soon. Maybe.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
I would love it.
- [99:09]
Jillian Michaels
Maybe there'll be progress. We can talk about that. That'd be great.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah. Better things. Yes. Thank you so much, Jillian. I think you're great and I really appreciate you having me on.
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Jillian Michaels
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