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Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
"The West is a Battlefield" — Egyptian Pastor’s Urgent Warning
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Martin Sedra
The only people that love Islam are not the people that live in the Middle East. It's the people who have never lived in the Middle East. So here I am, coming from the Middle east, telling them that Islam is not a religion of peace, that Islam is here to conquer the world, that Islam actually is commanded to kill the infidel, to establish Sharia law. And then the white liberals are telling me, you're wrong.
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Jillian Michaels
Today I'm joined by Martin Sedra. He's born in Egypt as the son of a Christian pastor. And he didn't just stay, he survived it. Growing up in a land where changing your faith cost you your life, he witnessed firsthand the miraculous protection of God when his family was targeted by extremists. And now, as a pastor and a global speaker, Martin is pulling back the curtain on the fundamental irreconcilable differences between the world's most powerful belief systems from the divinity of Christ to the core of Sharia law. He's here to explain why the gap between Islam and Christianity is wider than you've been told. Here we go. Keeping it Real with Jillian Michaels. Martin Cedro, welcome to the show.
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Martin Sedra
Thank you. So good to be here.
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Jillian Michaels
I want to start out by letting the audience learn a little bit about you, which sets up the remainder of our conversation. Yeah. So born in Egypt.
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Martin Sedra
Yep, Born and raised in Egypt. We escaped the Muslim Brotherhood. So Egypt, my country, 1400 years ago, was 90% Christian. We were like the hub of Christianity. People love the Lord Jesus. There was no Islam on Egypt, believe it or not. Because people, whenever they talk about Egypt, they think it's a Muslim world. It's always been Muslim. It wasn't like that 1400 years ago. We're a Christian country, 90% Christian. In fact. There was a writing that they found, a writing. Historical, historical writing. And it said this guy was writing about his experience in Egypt. And he said, as I traveled from the Nile river to the bottom of Egypt, he said, all I could hear was worship music and hymns. This is how much Egypt was Christian. They loved Jesus. They didn't want Islam at all. 1400 years ago, Islam came. They went there. They conquered Islam, they conquered Egypt. They killed pastors, they burnt them, they burnt out churches. The woman took our kids and made them Muslim. And now Egypt went from 90% Christian to 10% Christian and from 0% Muslim to 90% Muslim. So that's kind of the background I grew up in. And my family was a Christian minority in Egypt. I was born there, born in Cairo. My dad was a pastor. Actually a preacher. And really, it's very dangerous for you to preach Jesus in a Muslim country. They actually have apostasy laws in Muslim nations under Sharia law. Apostasy laws is if a Muslim leaves Islam and converts to Christianity, they'll kill you. And the pastor that converted you, he'll be in lots of trouble. So my dad, when he was kind of saved or found Jesus at the age of 30, he was like, you know what? I'm gonna preach to the Muslims. I'm gonna get these guys to come to Jesus Christ. So he was preaching to the Muslims, and thousands of Muslims in Egypt were coming to Jesus. Leaving is turned into Christianity. Our family was getting death threats all the time. Lots and lots and lots of. Many times a Muslim tried to kill us and my family. But really, this is kind of the pinnacle of our story. In 2006, before we moved to Australia, my dad was preaching to in a living room, and there was a Muslim lady in a hijab there. And at the end of the sermon, at the message, that Muslim lady leaves Islam and she takes her hijab off and kind of surrenders her life to Jesus and says, you know what? I'm going to leave Islam. I'm going to become a Christian. Which my dad was used to that. But what my dad didn't know, that her husband was a leader of a Muslim terrorist group. Her husband was like a big leader. This guy kills preachers, pastors for a living. And when her husband found out that my dad converted his wife, the husband was obviously furious. He was furious, very angry. Wants to take revenge on my dad. So he studies my brothers. I have two brothers. They were nine years old and five years old, and a Muslim leader. When he found out my dad converted his wife, he made a plan. He was going to kidnap my brothers from the school bus, behead them, put them in a bag, and send them back to the front door of my dad's house to teach him a lesson. Don't preach Jesus again. And that's what Muslims do, by the way. The Muslims, whenever they want to take revenge on you, they'll kill your kids, they'll kill your wife, they'll do something like that. So what I'm saying can be surprising, but that's actually what Muslims do. So that Muslim leader decides, all right, you want to mess with my wife, I'm going to take your kids, I'm going to behead them, and we're going to see who the real God is. It's kind of like a war between the gods. Let's see if Allah or Jesus is the one true God. And. And I know many listeners are probably atheists and they might not believe what I'm saying, but I'm telling you our experience of the God of the Bible and the miracle he did. So the Muslim leader sends two Muslim men to the bus stop seven in the morning to kidnap my brothers and behead them. He sends the two men in a van. And as the two Muslim men are in the van, they see my brothers as they try to get out of the van to kidnap them. These two Muslim men feel frozen in the van. They're unable to move. My brothers get on a school bus. The school bus leaves and the two Muslim men unfreeze again. Now these two Muslim men are confused. They don't know what's going on. They were unable to move. They thought they were just frozen because they were scared. You know, you're frozen out of fear. So the next day the boss sends two bigger men to the bus stop and he wants these guys finish a job, kidnap the two boys, behead them, teach them a lesson, do not preach to my wife again. The two Muslim men, the next day, come seven in the morning to the bus stop, they see my brothers. My brothers again are nine and five, very young boys. They see my brothers at the bus stop. This time they were able to get out of the van. They get out of the van and they stood right behind my brothers about to kidnap them, to behead them. They feel. And this is them speaking, I'm not talking rubbish, this is them speaking to us after telling us a story. The two Muslim men, as they went to kidnap my brothers, they felt a supernatural hand, an angel, which I believe is a Christian. It was an angel tied both their hands behind their head. Both Muslim men who've thousands of people before their hands are behind their head, unable to move. My brothers get on a school bus. The school bus leaves and then they unfreeze again. Now they know something is wrong. They tell the Muslim leader, the boss, the Muslim terrorist leader. And that guy goes to my dad's house. He sits with him in the living room. He tells them what happened. That's how we know the story. And then the Muslim terrorist leader lands the story by telling my dad, I tried to kill your children, but your God protected them. And your God is the one true God. And that Muslim terrorist leader in the living room leaves Islam and becomes a Christian. So that's kind of the background we come from. We come from two experiences. This is a lot of people. When they watch us online or they, you know, they watch me preach online. They're like, what's wrong with this guy? He's bold, he's courageous. He doesn't care about, you know, what people think of him. And this is why, number one, this story gives me courage that as a Christian, my God is the one true God. I'm not scared of Muhammad. I'm not scared of Mustafa or Ali that want to kill me. Like me and my wife. My wife is pregnant. We get death threats all the time from the Muslims. I just had someone message me yesterday, I know where to find you. And we get death threats all the time. We've been followed in shopping centers. But if God protected me there, I believe he can protect me again. But number two, the reason I speak like this and I speak so much against Islam on my social media is because we actually experienced it. And this is what I'm seeing in America is the only people that love America, that love Islam, the only people that love Islam are not the people that live in the Middle East. It's the people who have never lived in the Middle East. So here I am, coming from the Middle east, telling them that Islam is not a religion of peace, that Islam is here to conquer the world, that Islam actually is commanded to kill the infidel, to establish Sharia law. And then the white liberals are telling me, you're wrong. Right? It's like the white liberals are telling me, no, you're wrong, you're wrong.
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Jillian Michaels
I don't laugh. I'll just bang my head into the desk 50 times.
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Martin Sedra
Well, I'm like, you've never experienced it, and you're telling me what Islam is. I'm like, I lived there. I experienced it. I escaped it in 2007 because we're gonna die. So that's kind of our background in a long form.
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Jillian Michaels
Let's start with Christianity.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay, first of all, the top criticism. When one brings up Islam and, like, kill the infidels, subjugate them, so on and so forth. Or like, well, have you read the Old Testament?
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Martin Sedra
Great question.
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Jillian Michaels
Which of course I haven't. But I am aware as a person who for many years. And this is why I just want to have it, please. Frank conversation. Who for many years thought that religion was bad? Because I was like, well, people die over this all the time.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
It's on its face. It's exclusionary. There's slavery and all kinds of crazy stuff in there. And, like, reaping, pillaging and plundering. Like, all this stuff is bananas.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And it's archaic.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
As I've gotten older and learned more about what religion does for people, how it gives them guidance, it gives them comfort, it has culture, it opened me up to learn a little more, to learn a little bit more about the principles of Christianity. In particular that I think, God, I really want to lean into this. And I had a wonderful conversation with David Harris Jr. About it. What do you do? What is soft Christianity? What does one do with someone like myself who doesn't meet the right. Like, what if I don't meet that?
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, no, it's a great question. And to address your first thing. So the Old Testament does have violence in it. The Old Testament does have war in it. And God did command the Israelites to kill the Canaanites. That is true. That is in the Old Testament. And a lot of Christians find it hard to deal with this scripture. I don't at all. It's actually a very easy scripture. And this is what the Muslims rebuttal back to us. When I say your Quran says the infidel, they say, what about the Old Testament? Oh, yeah, that's the first.
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Jillian Michaels
I got that one on peers from a Jewish girl. And I was like, are you insane?
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Martin Sedra
So that's the first one. So what about your Old Testament? And the second one is, what about the Crusades? That's the two battles that come against us. And they're very, very easy to address. Now the difference is. I'll tell you the difference between the Old Testament and Islamic Jihad is the Old Testament. The Israelites were not killing people for not believing in God. They were not people for not believing in Yahweh. They were not going around telling people, convert to Judaism or convert to our religion or we're going to kill you. You know why the people. You know why God commanded the Israelites to kill the Canaanites? It wasn't because they weren't following the religion. It was because the Canaanites were literally sacrificing babies to a God. They had a God by the name of Molech. And the Canaanites were sacrificing babies to idols. So I'm very surprised at the moment because everyone, you know, is very fascinated. The Epstein files. Right, the Epstein files.
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Jillian Michaels
That's what I just recognized, the name. You just said. That's where that comes from.
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Martin Sedra
Well, no, no. So the Moloch, evil Molech is an ancient God that the Canaanites used to get their baby. They used to get their baby. Imagine a mother getting her baby and they used to burn Their baby. Sacrifice their baby to this God, Moloch, to please the God, the God from heaven. The God of the Old Testament, Yahweh, looks at these people and he is furious with them. And remember, he doesn't punish them straight away. God gives Canaanites in the Old Testament 400 years to repent. 400 years, God looks at Canaan and tells them, you're living in sin. This is wickedness. You need to stop it. 400 years, God waits for them to repent. They don't repent. All of a sudden God's like, I'm done. My patience is finished. I'm going to come after them. So he tells the Israelites, kill them. Kill them and capture them. And this is for me. When anybody questions the Old Testament, how could God command them to kill them? I'm like, well, the Epson files, everybody's angry about it. Why are they everyone angry about the Epson files? Because a bunch of men literally killed babies. A bunch of men, Young children. A bunch of men sacrifice babies. Like, the files actually show that there are children being sacrificed. There are children being offered up to idols or gods or whatever you want
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Jillian Michaels
to call them, these creepy idols.
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Martin Sedra
And guess what? And now this is. Now everybody's like, let's put these guys in jail judgment. We need justice to happen to these guys. Well, that's what God did in the Old Testament. He saw a bunch of Epstein's in Canaan and he's like, let's punish them. So for me, the Old Testament violence is very justifiable. If I was in the Old Testament, I saw a bunch of babies being sacrificed, I'll be like, God, kill them. Take these guys out. Now let's compare that versus Islam. Islam, when they kill people, they're not people because they're sacrificing babies to idols, okay? They're people because they're not following their religion.
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Jillian Michaels
They.
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Martin Sedra
So the Old Testament, God commands the Israelites to kill the Canaanites because of their wickedness and sin and rebellion and sacrificing babies in Islam. That's not why. It's because they're not following their religion. Not only that, let's compare the Old Testament versus Jihad. The Old Testament violence versus Islamic violence. Now, the Old Testament, when God commanded them to kill the Canaanites to wage war, that was two things about that. One, that was a limited. That was a commandment with limited time and limited land. So that was a commandment only for the Israelites at that time. You're only allowed to attack this one Time. You can't do it all forever. And you're only allowed to attack this one land. So remember, the Israelites were not just allowed to go and attack whatever land
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Jillian Michaels
they wanted in perpetuity.
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Martin Sedra
It was one land. This is. God told Abraham, I'm promising you this land. One land. That's it. This land is yours. Now go kill the Canaanites. That's why he told that. He told Joshua, kill them, as I said, because of their wickedness. But this was one land. In fact, in the Old Testament, there's a story with the Israelites, Israel, by the way, they were huge. Like, these guys were undefeated. They were the. They were. People were scared of the Israelites, okay, In the Old Testament. And they're going. There's a story in the Old Testament where they're going through a land. And Israel could easily defeat that land and take their plunder. They have the army. They have the. They have the power. God tells them, do not touch anybody in this land. Don't touch them. So if Israel was just this violent war, you know, war type, you know, nation, why didn't they just. Everybody that got in their way. They didn't. They went through that land peacefully, didn't touch anybody. Why? That land was not wicked like Canaan. And number two, God didn't promise them that land. So the Old Testament, it's. The commandment to wage war was limited time. Only for that time. We can't do that.
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Jillian Michaels
Now, Raymond Ibrahim told me that, but he didn't tell me what you're talking about. He just said that was a finite thing with a specific instruction. Jihad is forever in perpetuity on everybody who is Muslim. But he didn't explain this piece, the Canaanite piece.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly. So limited time and limited land. Now let's compare Islam, it's not limited time, it's eternal.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Martin Sedra
Until God comes back. Until Allah comes back, wage war again. Limited land. In the Old Testament, for Islam, it's not limited land. It is. It's. It's global. That's why they say globalize. Intifada. Globalize. Globalize. Globalize. Every nation belongs to them. And that's why they will not stop until every nation is conquered. In Islam, they have this theology or these two terms. It's called dahr al harb and Dahr al salam. Dahr al harb, it's meaning house of war. And Dahr e Salaam is house of peace. So Islam, when they come to a nation, they view nations in two categories. This nation is either dahr al Harb a house of war or Dahr al peace. Dahr al Salam. House of peace. Only two categories. Now, the only way Muslims view a nation as a house of peace is if that nation is fully under Sharia law, fully Islamic, and fully submitted to Allah. And until the nation is fully submitted to Allah, it's a house of war. Until they submit to Allah, until they submit to Allah, it's a house of war. But once they come under Sharia law, once they come under Islam, wants to come under the Quran, under Muhammad. Now it's a house of peace. And this is why in America, a lot of people, you know, the last two weeks, the last week, Jillian, you know, we've seen four terrorist attacks in the last two weeks done by Muslims. Right. On Austin, Texas. The Muslim that shot at some Americans and had a shirt on that said property of Allah. Yes, right. He's literally saying, hey. And the news, by the way, said, we don't know his intentions. I'm like, it's on his shirt. Property of Allah. We saw that. We saw the two New Yorkers throw homemade bombs at, you know, at the protest.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes. And the media tried to spin it as though it was like white supremacists who attacked the governor.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly. And then we saw it in Michigan. In Michigan, the Muslim that rammed his truck in the Jewish temple and shot at the Jews. You know why we're seeing this right now? Very simple. America is a house of war. For the Muslims, America is a house of war. It's dar al harb. This is not a place of peace. I know Americans like to call, you know, we're living in peace right now. And this is where Christianity comes in, this soft Christian, Christianese spirit in America. I don't like this weak American pulpit. I'm against a lot of the preachers in America. I'm against a lot. A lot of them are woke up. A lot of them are liberal. A lot of them are godless, and a lot of them are weak. Christianity is not any feminine religion. Christianity is a strong, masculine and bold religion. Jesus was not a soft, effeminate man, okay? When people, you know, every time you see a photo of Jesus, you see him, like, carrying a lamb. He's a nice guy, beautiful hair and all that. And we view Jesus as kind of like a weak. A weak person. Jesus was not weak. Jesus was number one. He was a carpenter's son. Like, this guy would have been ripped. Okay? Jesus was not Jesus. No, I know it's fun, but I
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Jillian Michaels
love what you're saying.
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Martin Sedra
Jesus was A strong man. Jesus was. Jesus carried a cross, and this is historical. He carried a heavy cross, a heavy cross up the mountain of Golgotha on his shoulders. He was a real man. Like this guy was not some effeminate man. Jesus went in the temple in the Bible, in the Gospels, and there's a story where he goes in the house of God, the temple where people pray and, you know, seek God. And he found that they're, you know, selling things, things. And they've turned the house of God into, instead of a place of prayer and seeking God. They turned the house of God and a temple into kind of a den of thieves. You know, you come, you sell, you make money and you hide and all this stuff. And Jesus walks in and you would think, you know, the nice loving Jesus would say, it's okay, it's okay, you can do that. No, Jesus goes in and the Bible says he gets, he makes a whip out of cords. He makes a whip and he whips people out, flips the table, chucks coins on the floor and says, my, my house is called, it's meant to be a house of prayer. Jesus says, my house is meant to be a house of prayer, but you have turned it into a den of thieves. Jesus was angry in that time. And this is where the American church doesn't understand American pulpits. A lot of pastors think Islam is here. Just love, just be relaxed, it's okay. It's be easy. They think I'm hateful. Like they look at me as a pastor and they're like, you're not very Christ. Like you're not very Christ. Like attacking Islam, you shouldn't do that. You should love everybody. Well, how about when Jesus flipped the tables when he saw wickedness? That's what I'm doing now. I am seeing wickedness in America, I'm seeing evil in America rise and I'm getting angry. And anger is not a sin. The Bible says in your anger, do not sin. Anger is not the sin. It's when you get angry, do you actually sin or is it a righteous anger against wickedness? So right, yeah. That's kind of where the woke American pulpit comes in. They think being a Christian means you just accept everything, you know, oh, you want to live your life that you want to get drunk, it's okay, you can get drunk, you know, you want to abort babies, that's okay, you can do that, you know, you want to transition kids, that's okay. 10 year old want to mutilate himself, that's okay. The American weak church, they've become very tolerant. According to the Bible, God is very loving. And all my listeners, some people might be listening to me, they're like, man, I don't want to be a Christian. Oh man, trust me, when you compare all the religions, Jesus is the greatest person to ever live or walk this earth. Just when we compare all the religions for a second, like when people tell me, you know, what religion should I follow? Well, let's compare it. What are the three major religions you want to, what, you want to be Hindu? Hinduism has what, millions of gods? I think that's kind of stupid for me. I think there has to be one authority at the top. Like if they all got on a fight, who would win? You know, it's, it's, for me there can't be millions of gods. The idea of a God is he's a powerful divine, supreme being with no rival. Nobody can stand against him. For me, that's the definition of God. He's all powerful. He's unknowing. He has no, no one stands in his way. Everybody kneels when they come to him. So Hinduism for me doesn't make sense. Then you got Islam. If you, if all my listeners, if you're looking for a religion, let's look at Islam. You really want Islam? You really want that Prophet Muhammad who was a pedophile? We can talk about that pedophile and wage war. And I want to get back to
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Jillian Michaels
that actually the nine year old bride.
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Martin Sedra
So really, Hinduism, Islamism or Christianity? And I decided I prefer Christianity. Why? Jesus is, as I said, he's not any feminine man, but he's the most loving man. And this is the beauty of Christianity is we serve the God who is all powerful but all loving. We serve the God who is all righteous and holy but all kind. We serve Jesus who literally died on the cross because he loves the world. When you look at Muhammad, Muhammad went around, you know, killing people. Muhammad said, kill the infidel. Jesus said, love your enemies. I prefer Jesus. Muhammad says, Muhammad, before he died, said, may Allah curse the Jews and the Christians. Jesus before he died on a cross, said, father forgive them. Talking about the people killing him. Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they do. Muhammad waged 84 wars and raids in the span of 12 years of his life. Jesus did not have any wars or raids in his whole lifetime. In fact, when the disciples wanted to start a war in a city that wanted to reject him, Jesus rebuked them. And he said, don't do that. That's not how my kingdom runs. Muhammad had 11 wives and sex slaves. Jesus had no wives. He honored women. He protected women. Women loved Jesus because he was holy and pure in every interaction. He had children as well. Children. Muhammad married a six year old, had sex with him when she was nine. Jesus. The children ran up to him in purity, holiness and meekness. Jesus was gentle as a bold, masculine man. And this is where people need to understand Jesus as a bold man. How could children run up to you? You must be very meek, humble and loving for children in ancient times to love you as a man. So Jesus is for me, the most beautiful figure across history. There is no one that compares to Jesus. There is no one like him. Not only that, Jesus healed the sick. That is actually, I'm not talking like fairy tales, like this is actually recorded in history. There was a man by the name of Jesus who walked this earth 2,000 years ago. He was born in Bethlehem. He did heal the sick, he did raise the dead, he did walk on water, he did cast out evil spirits out of people and he did die on the cross. And Jesus, according to history, forget the Bible, extra biblical evidence, forget the Bible, forget Christianity, just look at history. There was a man by the name of Jesus who was crucified under Pontius Pilate, who was killed on the cross and three days later he did rise from the dead. And that's not just according to the Bible, that is according to extra biblical evidence. There's 500 eyewitnesses who saw Jesus after his crucifixion. And when people ask me, why are you Christian? That's why I'm a Christian. Because Jesus is the best figure across history and he did die and he did raise, he did rise from the dead. And if he rose from the dead, it means he's God.
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
No, it's a, it's a great question. Why would a good God send people to hell? I've wrestled with this question a lot and a lot of Christians would have wrestled with this question and a lot of atheists. But for me, what you need to understand is, is the Bible says that all have fallen short of the glory of God. Okay? God is holy, God is perfect, God is righteous. God has a standard. He is all perfect. He is all knowing, he's all holy. He's perfect. And in order for us to be in his presence, in order for us to enter heaven, we actually have to be holy. We actually have to be perfect, we have to be righteous. But the problem is, and this is the problem, none of us can. None of us can be perfect. None of us can be righteous to enter into God's presence. None of us deserve the love of God. None of us deserve to go to heaven. And a lot of pastors say, you know, you're going to hell and you're going to hell and I'm good, I'm righteous. You got a lot of self righteous Christians, they think they're going to go to heaven because of their own works, right? I'm good and you're bad. So I'm going to heaven and you're going to hell. That's not Christianity. The Bible is very clear. All have fallen short of the glory of God. All of us. Whether you have murdered.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm speaking for myself.
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Martin Sedra
I mean, you have and I have. You have, I have. Mother Teresa has every person across the world good. Whether you view them as good or bad, they have fallen short of the glory of God. We have all sinned. Even if you've done the smallest of sin, God is so holy, God is so righteous that you cannot enter into his presence. And this is the good news though. This is the good news.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm like, well, that stinks because none
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Martin Sedra
of us are going to have it now. Exactly. This is the bad news. Okay, there's bad news. The bad news is we're all sinful. We all deserve hell. We don't deserve God. He is so holy and righteous. And now Islam comes in and says, well, you can work hard and get your salvation. You know, a lot of religions say work hard and earn your salvation. We don't believe that in Christianity. We believe that you cannot earn your salvation. Your good deeds would not get you into heaven. You cannot be as perfect as God is.
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Jillian Michaels
Why Jesus died on the cross.
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Martin Sedra
And this is where the good news comes in. Jesus Christ, 2000 years ago with John 3:16. John, chapter 3, verse 16. In the Bible, in the New Testament, it says, for God so loved the world. For God so loved the world. Imagine the world, you and me, Me and you. That we hate God. We hated God. You hated God. I hated God before you rebelled against God. I rebelled against God. I cussed. You cussed. I stole. You stole. I lied. We all have fallen short of the glory of God. God looked down and realized that my creation is going to hell. My creation don't deserve heaven, but for God so loved the world. This is John 3:16, the greatest verse in the Bible. For God so loved the world, you and me, that he gave his one and only son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross. To die on the cross. That whoever believes in him will not perish in hell but have eternal life. And this is a beauty of Christianity. Two thousand years ago, Jesus came, a perfect God. Imagine Creator becoming creation. Imagine the God of heaven and earth sitting on his throne. Sitting on the throne. He doesn't need to come to earth. He decides, you know, I love creation. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna come down, I'm gonna humble myself into a servant. I'm gonna be born in a manger. I'm gonna grow up as a carpenter's son. He lived the perfect life. Jesus is the only man who lived a perfect life. Nobody lived perfect except Jesus. Jesus never sinned, he never lied, he never lusted. He was never greedy. He was the most perfect man. And at the age of 33, Jesus was wrongfully accused. People lied about him. People brought. The Pharisees, brought different testimonies and witnesses and said, this guy did this, and this guy said this. And they found, you know, false witnesses to say, crucify Jesus. And they take Jesus to the cross, they crucify him. And right before the crucifixion, an interesting story. Right before the crucifixion, Jesus, in what they call the Garden of Gethsemane, he's praying with all the disciples. And Judas, one of his disciples, betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. They were looking for Jesus, and he says, hey, I know what Jesus is. Give me 30 pieces of silver and I'll tell you. He takes the Roman soldiers straight to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. The Roman soldiers come to arrest Jesus, to take him, to punish him, to judge him. And Peter in that, in the story, Peter, one of his disciples, the people that loved him, gets the sword out and starts to fight. He's like, I'm going to defend Jesus. I'm going to let them take my Jesus. I love him. He's my Lord. He's my savior. He's my rabbi. And he cuts a guy's ears off. He cuts a guy's ear off. He's just angry. He's like, don't take my Lord Jesus. In that moment, you would think Jesus would be like, yeah, let's fight. Let's not get me to that cross. But Jesus in that moment heals the guy's ears. First of all, the guy was coming to arrest him. He heals his ears. That's first miracle. And then he says to Peter, peter, those who live by the sword would die by the sword. Jesus was telling Peter, I don't need you to protect me. I don't need you to try to save me from the cross. And Jesus says to Peter something so interesting. He says to Peter, peter, don't you know that I could call on heaven? I could call on my father and he would Send to me 12 legions of angels. Peter was telling him, peter, listen to me. I know they're coming to take me to the cross to crucify me. And you're trying to protect me, Peter, I don't need you to protect me. I'm God.
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
or wherever you download your podcast. I could call on heaven right now and they will send 12 legions of angels. Legions. 12 legions of angels. When you do the math with 177,000 angels, Jesus was telling Peter, I don't need your help. I could call right now and be saved from the cross. But Jesus didn't want to get saved. Jesus wanted to go to the cross. He wanted to go to the cross. Why did he want to go to the cross? Because this is the thing. The wage of sin is death. That's what the Bible says. The wage of sin is death. We all sin. That's a punishment. Why God decided that the wage of sin is death. Someone has to die for your sin and my sin. It's either going to be you that die or God that dies. And God said, I'm going to die for you. So Jesus went to the cross willingly. He went to the cross willingly. And the Bible says that he who knew no sin became sin. That we might become the righteousness of God. Let me break that for you. The Bible says, he who knew no sin. This is kind of describing the good news, right? We said that's bad news. Well, here's the good news. The good news is this. He, Jesus, who knew no sin. As I said, Jesus was perfect. Perfect. No sin. He didn't know sin at all. Nothing had no relationship with sin. He who knew no sin became sin. He carried your sin and my sin on the cross. Our judgment was on him. Our punishment became on him. Our debt was on him. He took our sin. He took our punishment. And when he hung on a cross, he was whipped. By the way, for everyone listening to me, Jesus Christ was not just crucified. And this is historically, by the way, this is like, forget the Bible. Forget the Bible. This is historical. The Romans were the best at people. The Romans were experts at people. In fact, the word excruciating, you know the word excruciating, that comes from the word crucifixion. Okay? So the word crucifixion, where Jesus was crucified, out of that word came the word excruciating. Why the Romans did not. The Romans, when they had an enemy, they didn't just want to kill him, they wanted to torture him. They wanted it to be the most slowest death ever. And that's where they came up with the crucifixion. Okay? They came up with the crucifixion. What they would get you, they would take your clothes off. Jesus was naked. The king of kings, God. And that's what we Christians believe. God of heaven and earth became naked. He took out shame. He was shamed. He was whipped. And this whip, by the way, wasn't a normal whip. This was a whip that the Romans invented. A whip that The Romans angry 100%. And this is why.
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Jillian Michaels
Not even like, even. Just not even the divine peace. It's just the fact, like any human Being this makes me so angry.
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Martin Sedra
Well, it shows you how much, how, how much God hates sin that he was willing to allow Jesus to die on a cross. Jesus was whipped. And this was not a normal whip. This was a whip in the ancient times that the Romans designed, they architected this whip. It was a whip with a metal ball on it, heavy metal ball, and a knife attached to the end of it. And when they would whip you and the team in a podcast, they can actually pull this up and maybe attach a video. It would first the weight would hit your skin, it would tenderize your flesh. And after it tenderize your flesh, the knife would dig into your flesh. And when you pull the whip, it would actually rip the flesh open. So even Passion of the Christ. I'm not sure if you watched that movie.
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Jillian Michaels
It was so many years ago. And I remember it being so gory that I don't think I could get through it.
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Martin Sedra
I encourage everybody listening to me watch Passion of the Christ. It is amazing movie. His flesh was ripped. They whipped him. They put a crown of thorns on his head. This was a crown of thorns on his head, dug into his brain. They punched him, they spat on him. They put a purple robe on him and mocked him. They said, you claim to be God, you claim to be the king. Save yourself. Come on, save yourself. And they didn't understand. He could have saved himself, but he decided not to because he wanted to take our place. He hung on a cross. They put a nail on his wrist, a nail between his feet. He hung there. 9:00am 9:00am Jesus was crucified on the cross. This is historical. 9:00am Jesus was on the cross. 12:00pm after three hours, the whole place became dark. And this is again historically proven at this time, at this time, at the crucifixion of Jesus. 12 afternoon. Imagine 12, 12 is meant to be when the sun is the most bright. 12 o' clock is meant to be. The sun is the most bright. At noon. Now, 12 o' clock and historically speaking, and in the gospels, pitch black darkness. The sun fails. Jesus Christ is on the cross. The sun fails, the earth begin to shake. The earth begin to shake at 12 o'. Clock, from 12 to 3pm, pitch black darkness. What does this symbolize? It symbolizes the anger of God against sin. This symbolizes that God is angry with sin and shows you how holy God is. God is a holy and a perfect God, that any sin makes him angry. He was angry. 3:00pm Jesus gives his last breath. His last breath. Jesus looks up to heaven and says, it is finished. Father, receive my spirit. And again, the team can literally cut these clips, if they can. I don't know if they can. And put it in. He said, it is finished. Gives his last breath, he dies. They take him down from the cross. There's a man by the name of Joseph of Arimathea. He's a rich man, and he has a tomb reserved for him. As a rich man. He has a tomb reserved for wealthy people where it's a stone carved out with a huge stone. Most criminals, by the way, after they're crucified, they just chuck your body away. That man looked at Jesus, said, no, I don't want his body to just be thrown away and eaten by birds. I'm going to honor his body. He said, put him in my tomb. They put Jesus of Nazareth in that tomb. The Joseph, Joseph of Arimathea. They put it. And then, not only that, they roll a huge stone, a huge stone over the tomb. They roll a stone over the.
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Jillian Michaels
Shut the door.
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Martin Sedra
Not only that, they shut the door. Then they put a seal, the Roman seal on it, meaning nobody can open this thing, nobody can touch it. Not only that, he put the. The Romans put soldiers in front of the tomb. Imagine guarding a guy who's dead, okay? They put Roman soldiers in front of the tomb to guard it, to make sure that nobody takes his body, okay? Three days later. So Jesus crucified on Friday, 9:00am, Friday goes. Saturday, goes. Sunday morning, early morning, the two women. Two women go to the tomb. And they go to the tomb with spices, kind of to just take care of Jesus's body. They go to the tomb, expecting Jesus to be still dead. And they go. And the tomb is rolled away. The tomb is rolled away. The tomb is rolled away. And they get there. They go in, the tomb is empty. They don't know what's going on. An angel appears to them. And this is according to the four Gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. An angel appears to them and says to them, why are you looking for the living among the dead? What do you mean? Why are you looking for the living among the dead? We saw Jesus die. We saw him die. We saw him get crucified. We saw him tortured. We saw his flesh open. Why are you looking for the living among the dead? And doesn't stop there. Because if it stopped there, people would say they're hallucinating. They saw an angel, they're hallucinating Jesus. Someone stole his body. You know, someone stole his body. He didn't rise. Someone stole it and acted like he was. Okay, fair enough. Question if it wasn't for later on. The 12 disciples, 12 disciples. Remember, the 12 disciples viewed Jesus as a hero. He was the Messiah, the rabbi. And they're so excited that Jesus finally here, all of a sudden their hero is dead. Now they're discouraged. Now imagine they view Jesus as a hero, the Messiah coming to save them. And all of a sudden Jesus is now dead. Now the disciples are scared. They're terrified. And the Bible says that they were hiding in a room upstairs. They were hiding somewhere. They were scared because they knew arrived, they killed Jesus. They're going to come after his disciples and followers. So they're hiding, scared, okay? They're terrified. Peter was so terrified that he denied Jesus. When someone asked him, do you know Jesus? He said, I don't even know that guy. He was scared they were going to kill him. Now three days later go by and Jesus appears to the disciples. Imagine the disciples terrified in the room, scared that someone, the Romans are going to come knocking on the door and take them and them. They're terrified. Peter is a coward denied Jesus. All of a sudden, the Bible says that Jesus appears to the disciples. He appears to them. And not only does he appear to them, he shows them his hands according to the Bible. And he says, look at my wrist. Can you see the nail prints in my wrist? Can you see the nail prints in my leg? Can you see the spear that stabbed me in my side? And they check and they're like, yes, we see. And all of a sudden, these disciples are no longer terrified, but now they're bold. So imagine I'm scared because my leader died. What would give me courage again is if I see my leader rise from the dead. Now the disciples are no longer scared. They go around preaching the Bible. And 11 out of the 12 disciples, 11 out of the 12 disciples are killed for believing that Jesus rose from the dead.
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Jillian Michaels
And they died horrible deaths.
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Martin Sedra
They died horrible death. Peter crucified upside down, one of them boiled, one of them stabbed to death. Thomas in India, all these guys. So now the question is, if Jesus didn't actually rise from the dead, why would the disciples be willing to die for a lie? Okay, so people say the disciples lied. Okay, I understand making up a lie if you're gonna get rich out of it, okay? Understand making up a lie if you're gonna get fame from it or power. I understand it making up a lie. If you're going to get houses, gold, and you know it promises you and your family something. But for the disciples to make up a lie that Jesus rose From the dead when they know that they're going to get. They're going to get killed for it. Why would you do that? So that shows me this is just one of the proof, one of the extra biblical proof that Jesus Christ really did rise from the dead because they were willing to die for it. And not only that, later on, a man by the name of Paul. Paul is a real man. Again, forget the Bible. Paul is a real historical man who hated the Christians. He went around persecuting the Christians. He paid for the Christians to get killed. He hated them. He didn't want these guys to spread this false narrative about Jesus rising from the dead. He's like, I'm going to kill these guys. And on the road to Damascus, Paul was literally on the road, on the job, about to kill Christians on the road. The Bible says that in Acts, it says that Jesus appeared to Peter, to Paul. Sorry, Jesus appeared to Paul. A light from heaven. A bright light appeared from heaven that the Bible describes that Paul fell off his horse. It was so bright that Paul couldn't imagine what was happening. He fell off his horse and he heard a voice say, paul, Paul, why are you persecuting me? Or Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? And after that moment, Paul was like, crap, Jesus is God, right? Crap. I have been killing the people for saying that Jesus rose from the dead. But now Jesus appeared to me. I can't deny it anymore. And Peter now is blinded for three days from seeing this God, this bright God. He's blinded for three days. He's unable to eat. Because imagine you thought Jesus was a fake guy, right? Just a revolutionary guy. And now you're like, he's God. I'm like, I've been wrong my whole life. And now Peter goes from persecuting to the Christians to becoming one of the greatest preachers to ever live. He goes around now telling people, guys, Jesus did rise from the dead. Jesus truly did rise from the dead. And Paul goes from Christians to being a Christian. Paul goes from making money by killing Christians. That was his job, to now saying, I was wrong the whole time. So now again, Paul for me is a great example of why would a guy again leave Christians to convert to Christianity? And then Paul ends up getting beheaded. Can you imagine? Like Paul who killed Christians for claiming Jesus resurrected. Now is like, you can behead me. I believe he resurrected. How could this be a lie? I don't know. And they say, what if they all hallucinated and saw some ghost, right? That's another argument. They say, no, all the disciples saw a ghost. They all saw a ghost. Jesus didn't rise from the dead. Look, there is some, there are, there are evidence of hallucinations, right? People do hallucinate, and I'm not denying that. But for group hallucinations, that's not true. For one, if you come up to and say, hey, I saw, I saw this guy and I saw this God and I saw, I'll be like, you're crazy, right? Like, you can if you want, but I'll be like, like, you know, Candace Owens, Like, I saw Charlie. I'm like, you're crazy. Like all these stuff, that's a different story. But okay, all these people that, like, you're probably hallucinating one guy. But for 12 disciples, plus Paul, plus 500 more people, 500 more people after Jesus rose from the dead, said, I saw Jesus, you're telling me 500 people had the same hallucination and saw Jesus? That's not possible. That's how I believe. It's a miracle. And Jesus truly did rise from the dead. And if he did rise from the dead, that means he is truly God and who he claimed to be. And that's why I'm a Christian, that's why I'm not a Muslim, that's why I'm not a Hindu, and that's why I'm not an atheist. I'm a Christian, because Jesus truly did rise from the dead.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay, okay, so I wanna, Let me. You gave me so much to address. All right, number one, let's go with. I want to take it a little bit off piste here.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
So stay with me now it's thousands of years later, 2000 years later, and the conversation is, oh, there's an infinite amount of planets with an infinite amount, infinite amount of stars, an infinite amount of galaxies, and what seems to be an infinite universe and there's planets all over. And to me I'm going, well, all right, forget that. If there's infinite universes, this is a monster sized universe. And one would presume that there's an insane amount of life in it. For me, my God would have, in my mind, have created all of this, and all of this life would belong to him or her or whatever the heck created all of this. I don't know if God has testicles or like this creating power. But Jesus didn't show up on planet X in galaxy Y at the far end of our universe. So that's where I'm like, well, now what do we do here? What are they, Are they all going to hell. This is where you.
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Martin Sedra
I'm like, ah, yeah, well, this. This is what we believe in Christianity. And I didn't get to that. This is what we believe in Christianity. We believe that all have fallen short of the glory of God. We all deserve help. But if you believe in Jesus Christ, if you repent of your sin and turn to Jesus Christ, you can be saved. And that's why, as Christians, we don't believe that, you know, salvation belongs to one nationality. Salvation belongs to the black and not the white. Salvation belongs to the whites and not the blacks. It belongs to the man and not the female. We don't believe that. Islam believes, you know, that. That heaven, the greatest reward is for the man, not the woman. We're not like that. Some religions are coming out now saying, you know, salvation is only for the Black people or 144,000 people, or all these ideas of. Of saying these are the only people that can be saved.
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Jillian Michaels
This is why people don't like religion. So Christianity, like, this is crazy.
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Martin Sedra
I get it. But this is Christianity. Christianity. We believe that all have fallen short of the glory of God. All gone to hell. But everybody can be saved. Everybody can be saved. Remember, the Bible says, for God so loved the world, the cosmos, everywhere, every nation, every tribe, every tongue, young, old, black, white, male, female, God loved everybody. And it says that whoever. This is the beauty of Christianity. That whosoever. I don't care who you are, I don't care what you've done. I don't even care if you're a prostitute. I don't care if you're a prostitute, if you're a murderer, if you've murdered people, if you are the worst of criminals, God loves you. He doesn't. No, no. If you don't repent, you're going to hell. But God died for you. And if you decide this day whether you're a prostitute, a drunkard, the worst of sinners, you name them. I don't know what worst of sinners there are. You name them. If you decide in that moment to repent of your sin, repentance just simply means metanoia. In the Greek. It means change of mind. To change your mind. All right, I've been doing this, but I'm wrong. That's repentance. Okay? Repentance simply means 180 degrees. If you make any person. Any person makes a decision, I'm gonna repent of my sin. I'm gonna leave my sin behind, and I'm gonna believe that Jesus died on the cross. He took my Sin. He took my punishment, he took my debt, he paid it for me. I was meant to die, but he died for me. If you believe in that, the Bible says if you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, it says you will be saved. And that's the good news. You know, before you were saying that's so, I don't know that's so bad. Well, this is a good news. You can be saved. I can be saved.
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Jillian Michaels
What do I do if I'm like a person in a tribe in the friggin rainforest and I've never heard of Jesus?
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Martin Sedra
Great question, Great. And that's where Romans chapter one comes in. There's a book in the Bible called Romans and Romans one says that all of creation speaks of the glory of God. Nobody on judgment day when God comes back is going to be able to say, God, I don't deserve hell. You didn't. I didn't know you existed. No, no, no. Romans 1 says creation is without excuse for knowing God create. Nobody has excuse for saying there's no
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Jillian Michaels
such thing as God.
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Martin Sedra
No, nobody has excuse for saying God didn't reveal himself to me. Okay, okay. Even the tribes in the middle of nowhere, God would not allow them to not know about him. God will find a way to get the good news of the Bible to you. Whether you're in China, for example. Some people like, what about China? Communist China, where, you know, missionaries are not allowed to go there. Don't worry, there are pastors there right now in underground churches preaching about Jesus Christ. God will find a way to get to you. Thomas went to India. India didn't know Jesus. Thomas was like, he's one of the disciples. Like, I'm going to India. All the tribes, the Bible Right now, the YouVersion Bible app, they just celebrated 1 billion, 1 billion Bible downloaded. You know what's happening? Bible sales right now, Jillian, Bible sales right now are up by 70%. Bible sales, people are buying Bibles more than they've ever bought Bibles before. People are so fascinated by this idea of God and they want to find the truth. And even a person in the tribe, God will find a way to get to him. In Gaza, you know Gaza, the Gaza Strip, Muslims there, Christians can't go there and preach. Guess what God did. There was a report that came out in 2023 and guys can look it up. In 2023 there was a report that came out reportedly saying that 200 Muslims saw visions of Jesus in the same night. And they all came to Jesus. So no matter what tribe you're in, I don't care what planet you're in, if you're in a cave or on a mountain, if you're the president or the poorest of the poorest, God will find a way to reveal himself to you. But that's not the problem. The problem is not God. The problem is you. You see, the Bible says that in Revelation, behold, I stand at the door of your heart and I knock, right? Have you ever had a guy knock on your door and you're like, get away. I don't want you here. I don't want you here. I don't want you here. You got the sales guy. You know, some people in the front of the house, they say, no sales, please, no knocking, no soliciting. The Bible says in Revelation, in the book of Revelation, the last book in the Bible says, God is speaking to us. And he's saying, behold, I stand at the door of your heart and I knock. And if anyone would open the door, I would come in and live inside of them. God is saying, I'm knocking on the door of every heart. And that's the truth. You feeling right? You know, all the questions you're having, you know, it's not you, it's God knocking on your heart. The question is, are you going to open the door or are you going to reject the door? That's the question.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay, not for this to become a personal therapy session. I'm going to segue other questions. I don't think. And I don't want to disappoint anybody, and I don't want to disappoint David Harris Jr. I don't think I can ever get beyond the fact that if somebody doesn't accept Jesus, they go to hell. I'll never get past that. That will always be a fundamental roadblock for me. However, you know, and there are other parts of like, you know, be. It's for me, I will never be able to live in the way the Bible says. I love my wife, I will never leave her. Like, it's just never going to happen. And so, but what I, what I can accept is, you know, these principles and I'm really attracted to the way of living they suggest. What I do feel, though, and there is no question is I, I feel a call to be better. This change you talk about, this 180, this evolution, I feel that unquestionably the desire to live in the way that you suggest, largely 90 something percent of it, I'm there For. And I wonder sometimes, like, who said this? I think it was Andrew Wilson was on Joe Rogan, and Joe was kind of like, I don't know if it's true, kind of playing the. The same role that I'm playing this moment. And Andrew Wilson was like, what if it isn't? How wrong is it to live this way, though? Even if it's wrong, like, living this way ends up badly. How?
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And I was like, oh, well, yeah. Yeah, I kind of like that. Like, even if I can't, you know, wrap my head around a certain part of it, living this way improves me as a person. Living this way improves the world when I'm a better person in it. And that part I can absolutely wrap my head around. But see is that then do I get rejected by the community because I'm not all in.
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Martin Sedra
Look, the community. We don't reject you. We actually love you. We're unlike the Muslims. Unlike the Muslims, we don't you for not believing in God. We don't hate you for not for not believing in God. In fact, we actually love you. Like, believe it or not, on the way here, I prayed for you, which is. I know.
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Jillian Michaels
I'll take it. I will take it.
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Martin Sedra
I genuinely, on the way here, me and my wife, we prayed for this podcast. We actually, as Christians, we love every person. Why? Because God loves us. I don't deserve the love of God. I'm a sinner that deserves hell, but God loves me. And for me, for me to look at anybody in the world and say, oh, you don't deserve any. You don't deserve the love. I'm angry at you. No, no, I can't say that. Because God forgave me when I didn't deserve it. I ought to forgive everybody, even if they don't deserve it. Even my greatest enemies, even a guy that messaged me, the Muslim guy that messaged me, I'm going to kill you if I see that guy, I'll tell him, I love you. I'm not going to let you around my family, but I'll pray for your salvation. I was in California week with Turning Point. I was in California on a campus, and a Muslim came up to me to debate me. And he was a Muslim guy from Egypt. I'm from Egypt. He's a Christian. He's a Muslim from Egypt. And he was debating me, and I was getting heated. He was getting angry. He was getting angry. Every time my wife would speak, he would ignore her because, you know, Muslims don't own a woman at all. He wouldn't even fake, like. And I told him, mate, if you disrespect my wife, you disrespect me. Don't speak to my wife that way. But that was a different issue. But by the end, I really felt in my heart, I was like. I looked at the Muslim guy and I told him, I love you. I looked at the Muslim guy, remember, they don't love us. But I looked at him and I said to him, in front of everybody, huge crowd around us. I looked at the Muslim guy and I said to him, I love you. He knows I'm a Christian. He knows I'm a pastor. I told him, I love you and I pray for you and I care about you. And I put my arm on his shoulders. He felt very uncomfortable that way, said, I love you. And I told him, do you love me? I asked him, do you love me? And he ignored the question. And I went back to it, do you love me? He wanted to keep ignoring it. Five times I asked this Muslim, do you love me as a Christian? I'm a Christian, you're a Muslim. Do you love me? And five times I asked him. He kept ignoring the question. And by the end, I told him, bro, stop ignoring the question. Answer me. And finally he answered me and said, I don't love you. I hate you. Because according to the Quran, I cannot love you. And this is the beauty of Jesus Christ. This is the beauty of Jesus Christ, is as Christians, we are called to love our enemies. We are called to forgive all people. If you sin against me, if you curse at me, if you try to murder me, I'm not gonna allow you around my family. I'll have my gun. I don't have a gun in Australia, but if I'm in America, I'll get a gun. But I love you and I'm praying for you, and I care about you. And it's a beauty between Christianity and Islam. Islam is not allowed to love you. If you don't believe in Islam, Islam is not allowed to love you. They're commanded to hate you. They're commanded to kill you. They're commanded to wage war against you. In fact, if any. I know a lot of people tell me, I have nice Muslim friends. Well, that Muslim friend is not following the Quran. Unfortunately, that Muslim friend is not following the Quran. He should actually either leave Islam or follow the Quran. Right? If you're going to follow the Quran, you follow it fully. And according to the Quran, you're not allowed to befriend someone who's Not a Muslim. So for me, they're not allowed for me. I can love you. Why? Because God loves you. I can care about you. Why? Because God cares about you. I can love you. Why? God died for you. You the guy that messaged me. I hate you. Every person, wherever we go. And that's why, by the way, when you meet Christians, real Christians, there's some very mean Christians. And some people listen to me, like, oh, I had a bad pastor experience and had a bad church experience. I get that. I get that.
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Jillian Michaels
Well, corruption seeps into all.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly. But you just got to compare founders. Compare Jesus versus Muhammad, the founder of Christianity versus the founder of Islam. I will pick Jesus any day. Jesus any. Any. Any day.
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Jillian Michaels
I want to go back to the Old Testament for a second. So the Canaanites obviously were not Israelites, were Jews. Canaanites were just polytheists, kind of pagan.
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Martin Sedra
Pagan. Just pagan.
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Jillian Michaels
Got it. Okay. And there's a very specific battle, and that's the one we're fighting. And now I understand what Raymond Ibrahim was referring to. I come back to you and I say, but it talks about owning sleeves in there.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
But it talks about women being whatever the heck, you know, less than human in there, in the whole Old Testament. What does one do with that?
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, yeah. No, great question. So there's a lot of things in the Old Testament that we get. We struggle with slavery in the Old Testament, by the way. You got to understand, it wasn't. It wasn't like the slavery we think of today, slavery in the Old Testament. It was a way where a person who couldn't afford anything, who couldn't afford a home or couldn't afford money or anything like. Or couldn't afford food, they would tell you, hey, I will come and be your slave. And after me being your slave and serving you, you are meant to give me a home. You're meant to feed me. It wasn't a way of slavery nowadays where you're under me. It wasn't. It wasn't like. It wasn't like what we saw in, you know, the history of the. The black slaves and the African slave. It wasn't like that. It was. It was a slave saying to some. Someone saying to their master, I will come under your rulership. I will come under your career. You'll provide for me. You will take care of me. You will feed me, and then I will serve you. That was slavery in the Old Testament. It wasn't like what people think of today. And that's why a lot of people, when they Read the Old Testament. We're reading it from a 21st century lens, right. We're reading it from a 21st century lens. You will never understand the Old Testament until you actually dig into the context and realize what the time. What time they were living in. Right. And another one is the Old Testament. A lot of people, when they read the Old Testament, they read it and they're like, see God, the Christ. The Jews did that, or the Israelites did that. Like Solomon, for example. Solomon is a character in the Bible. Old testament. Solomon had 900 wives, okay? Shocking. 900 wives. And con. Like, he was crazy, that guy. David. David. You know David, the guy who killed Goliath. Yes, that guy. Everyone said hero. Yeah, he was King David. He was a hero. Yeah. But David actually saw a lady and he thought she was beautiful. So he found her husband, killed him and married her. Very wicked. Very wicked, very evil. Every. Abraham. Abraham, the great father of faith, a man of God, great father of faith, Amazing man and amazing hero. He actually. He was married to Sarah, and when they couldn't have kids, he slept with his servant Hagar to have a child.
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Jillian Michaels
This is Ishmael and Israel.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, so. So you got all these characters in the Old Testament, some very wicked thing. Every character in the Old Testament, they all did something wrong. And this is a difference. Every person listening to me need to understand. When you read the Bible, you got to understand what is descriptive and what is prescriptive. Okay? Descriptive and prescriptive. Descriptive is. The Bible is simply describing what happened. Because remember, the Old Testament is not just God speaking commandments. The Old Testament is actually storytellers. It's actually narrative. Right. It's saying, this king came and that king and that empire defeated that empire. So when you read the Old Testament, the question is what out of it is descriptive? Just describing what happened, which is David killing Uriah and sleeping with Bathsheba and Solomon having concubines. And that's not prescriptive. That's not telling the Christians, hey, whatever they did, you can do, Right. That's not prescribing it to you. Hey, here's your medication. You can have this. That's just simply describing it. So when we read the Old Testament, you've got to be very careful. Is this storytelling narrative, or is this God? And how do you know that? How do you find out if it's descriptive or prescriptive? Compare what is happening in this story to the whole Bible. If God, if it's consistently happening from old to New Testament, that's God. So you got to actually allow. We say it this way. We say scripture interprets scripture. So you can't read one verse and be like, that's God. Okay? So you have to allow scripture to interpret Scripture. And that's why you have to read the Bible in context. You've got to read it from beginning to the end. And when you read it from the beginning to the end, you actually figure out who God really is. So if God wanted. If God was so pro slavery, why in the New Testament does the Bible say there is no longer slave or master in Christ? Why would I say that? If God was so pro slavery, why would the New Testament say there's no longer, you know, slave or master if God was so anti woman? Right. The Old Testament, a lot of verses are very confusing about women. Why would the New Testament say there's no longer male or female in Christ? Why would God in the New Testament say, husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church, die for your wife. If God didn't like women in Old Testament, why would God in the New Testament say that? And that's how you got to make sure you're not looking at one verse and saying, that's Christianity. You got to actually read the whole Bible in context. And that's when you understand real Christianity. Real Christianity honors woman. Christianity is the most pro female religion in the whole entire world.
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Jillian Michaels
See, but then. Okay, so can I. So James Talarico, I'm sure you know this guy. He was, he's the Democratic candidate to run for Congress. Seat in Congress in Texas. He's a pastor. And he said like, God is non binary. Everybody went crazy.
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Martin Sedra
That would have made them go crazy.
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Jillian Michaels
It made them go crazy.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And I kind of thought he meant like, God is everything. Listen, he said a bunch of crazy stuff. I'm not gonna take that away. But this one, I was like, I kind of, you know, God loves everybody. We're all God's creation, God's. That one didn't set me ablaze or I didn't. I didn't think it would be as offensive to the people who were. Who were devout. And he said Jesus was a radical feminist. Kind of sounds like he, he might be.
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Martin Sedra
Feminism, we gotta, we gotta.
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Jillian Michaels
It's a tough word.
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Martin Sedra
Well, we gotta make sure we.
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Jillian Michaels
Defender of women. I get what you're saying.
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Martin Sedra
So feminism, today's feminism. I don't like today's feminism. Feminism is a movement designed to tell men, we don't need you. Feminism is a movement designed to tell women that you can be a man. To tell women that you don't need no man. No man tells me what. I don't like that.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay, body language.
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Martin Sedra
Sorry. I gay. Whenever I'm joking. Like, I act like, you know, like I'm effeminate. But this is the thing I don't like today's version of. I don't like the. The feminism definition today. I believe that we need men in our world. Of course I believe we need men. I believe men are the stronger vessel. I believe. Not that women are not strong, but I believe that God created men as protectors. Men have an. I have an instinctive nature to protect my wife. Right. When someone comes, it's not going to be my wife that's going to. Maybe some woman can bash, but for me, it's going to be me that protects. I believe men are. And I believe masculinity is not toxic. The feminists are saying that.
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Jillian Michaels
I totally agree with you.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly.
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Jillian Michaels
So I see what you're saying.
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Martin Sedra
They say masculinity is toxic. I don't believe that. But the Bible, Jesus is very pro male and female. Jesus is very pro male and female. When the Bible says, husbands, submit to your wives. You know that verse in the Bible?
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Jillian Michaels
I don't.
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Martin Sedra
Okay. There's a verse in the Bible that says so. Ephesians 5 in the New Testament, that's kind of the verse that summarizes Christian marriage. Okay. If you want to look at what we believe about marriage, Ephesians, chapter five.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay. Compare that with Islam for me.
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Martin Sedra
Okay, let's compare.
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Jillian Michaels
Do it.
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Martin Sedra
Okay. So now let's talk about marriage in Christianity. In Christianity, we believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. We believe that. Okay. That's Christianity. We believe that the man is the head of the wife. Okay. What does head mean? It doesn't mean that the wife is under you in value. Okay. It doesn't mean that the man can beat his wife up and say, I'm the man. It doesn't mean you tell your wife, submit to me. I'm your leader. That's not what being the head means. A lot of people misinterpret that.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Martin Sedra
We believe that the man is the head of the house. We believe that the man. What does head mean? It means that he's responsible for providing for his wife. He's responsible for protecting his wife. It's not my wife's job to make sure she's making money. That's my job. She can make money, but it's my job. I take care of her. It's my job. To make sure that my family follows the Lord. It's my job. I'm responsible. That's what being ahead mean. We believe that marriage has a goal of bearing children. We believe that in Christianity. We believe that children are not a burden, as a lot of, you know, Americans say. We believe that children are blessing from the Lord.
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Jillian Michaels
A new millennial.
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Martin Sedra
We believe that children are the greatest blessing ever. So when you. When you die on your deathbed, you're not going to be surrounded by your money and businesses. You're going to be surrounded by your children. The greatest legacy you can leave on Earth is not business and money. We're not saying that's bad, but that's great. But the great. On your deathbed, no one is going to think, I wish I started more businesses. I wish I worked more. They're going to say, I wish I took care of my kids. I wish my kids were around me. So many people die on their deathbeds, lonely. Why they thought having children is a burden. I'm not gonna have kids. Amount of women I meet who don't want to have kids, I'm like, man, you might think that now, but on your deathbed, you're gonna regret that because you need to be surrounded by your husband, your wife and your kids and people that love you on your deathbed. And I want to pass a legacy like, my wife is pregnant now and that baby for me. Thank you. That baby for me is the most precious thing ever. I would die for that baby. My goal is to raise. If my success is here, I want my ceiling to be his floor. I want my ceiling to be his floor. I want that baby to flourish, to be successful, to be a man of God, to get married, to have children. I want to make sure that I pass my Christian values to him, that I pass my legacy to him, that I pass my gifting to him, and he becomes better than me. So we believe Ephesians 5, and it's the difference between Christianity, marriage and Christianity. The difference between marriage and Christianity and marriage. In Islam, we believe that man is ahead of the wife in function, not in value. In Islam, man is ahead of the. Is ahead of the wife. But being the head means I can beat her up. I can literally beat her up. So Muhammad in the Quran, in the Quran, commands the men that men, if you fear. And I'm saying this verse for verse, this is Quran, chapter 4, verse 34. I think word for word, Muhammad says, husbands, if you fear your wife is about to disobey you, if you fear, disobedience from your wife. Muhammad says three steps. Step one, warn her. I'm warning you, stop disobeying me. That's what Muhammad says. Step one, warn your wife. Step two, if she doesn't obey you or you fear she's about to disobey you, Step two, Muhammad said, send your wife to the couch. Don't let her sleep in the bed with you. Send her to the couch. She's like a dog. She's like an animal. Step three, if you still think she's not going to dis, she's not going to obey you. Muhammad says beat her up. Beat her up. That's in the Quran. Aisha, Muhammad's six year old wife, when she grows up, she comes to Muhammad and says, muhammad, how come all the Muslim ladies, their faces green? How come all the this is in the hadith, in the Quran. How come all the Muslim ladies, their faces green? How come they're beaten up so badly? This is Islam for you. What does Jesus say? Muhammad says, beat your wife up. The Bible says, husbands, love your wives. Love her. How do we love our wife? Because when you say love nowadays, it's just whatever. That guy thinks he's loving her by chucking 500 bucks on her face. That guy thinks he's loving her by putting a roof over her head. No, no, no. We have a standard of love. What's that standard? He says, love your wife as Jesus loved the church. How did Jesus love the church? He died for her. He gave his whole life for her. How am I expected to love my wife? How? Jesus loved the church. I'm meant to die for my wife. I'm meant to provide for my wife. If there's one plate on the table, my wife's eating it. If there is, if someone's gonna die, I will die, not her. That's how we're meant to love our wife. Now not only that, in Islam, comparing marriage, in Islam, a man is allowed to have four wives. So Muhammad says if you can marry two, three or four wives. Bear in mind Muhammad didn't stick to that rule. He was so sexually perverted that he married 11. Okay? So he put the rule on everybody marry four, only four. But I'm gonna have 11, right? So Muhammad starts by, so Muhammad has Khadija, his first wife who was an old widow. She dies and he marries another woman. And he marries another woman. And he marries another woman. And he's up to four wives. And that's the max, right? Because Allah said only four wives. But then he sees another lady and he sees another lady in the street and he's like, crap, I'm stuck at four. He's like, crap, I can't. What am I going to tell my people if I change it? They're going to think I'm lying. So Muhammad goes to the people and says, guys, Allah just spoke to me again. Allah just, God just spoke to me again. And he upgraded his revelation that I can have six wives, but not for you, this is legit. Like this is actually legit. I can have six wives. You can only have four. Muhammad marries six again. He sees another woman, he's like, crap, I can't be stuck on six. He goes up to eight again, up to 10. He lands at 11 wives. 11 wives. One of those is Aisha. As you know. Aisha. Aisha is Muhammad's child bride. Muhammad already has, you know, seven, eight wives. But as a 54 year old man, Muhammad is 54 at the time. He sees a young six year old girl by the name of Aisha and he thinks she's beautiful. He thinks she's the hottest thing ever. What a pedophile. And he goes to the father, he goes to the dad and says, hey, I want to marry your daughter, I need to marry a daughter. The dad is like, we're brothers man, how could you do this to me? Muhammad says, allah sent an angel to me in a vision. And the vision I had, the dream I had, was the angel bringing Aisha, your daughter, your six year old daughter, on a pillow wrapped with linen. And he gave her to me as a gift. So Muhammad is a 54 year old man, was having dreams of a 6 year old on a pillow with linen. He was having wet dreams about her, pretty much, if you want to call it that. He says to him, allah gave me that vision and it's not me that wants to marry a daughter, it's Allah, God. So what is a Muslim guy gonna do? Allah said that I have to do it. He gives him his daughter. Muhammad marries her at the age of six. When he was 54, Aisha was six. He has sex with her when she's nine. And that's still happening right now in the Middle east, by the way. A lot of people are like, that's, you know, that's just old back then.
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Jillian Michaels
I've had these, these fights then, you know, that was the standard of the time standard.
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Martin Sedra
Well you're still doing that today, you pedophiles. Literally. Like this guy in Afghanistan last year, 2025, a report came out and again, everyone can look it up. You can fact check me. In Afghanistan, a 44 year old man went up to the government and said, I want to marry a six year old. The government said to him, you got to wait till she's nine. And they got married, they got married at the, when she was 9, he was 44. You go to the Middle east, you go to Muslim countries, any real country, under Sharia law, you'll find little girls pregnant. You've seen that in Europe, right? You've seen that in the uk, the gangs. I just saw a report today of a gang that took an 11 year old girl out of the UK and sold her into sex slavery. And that young girl slept with 600 Asian men as a prostitute from age of 11 to age of 16. And we look at that, we're shocked. I'm not shocked, I'm not shocked. Why? There's just following Muhammad, they're simply following Muhammad. When, when you imagine growing up and everybody tells you you want to be like that guy, right? So for us as Christians, we grow up and people tell us be like Jesus. I'm like, yes, I want to be like Jesus. I'm not like Jesus, but I want to be like Jesus. I want to be like him. I want to be more lovely, I want to be holy, I want to be less greedy, I want to be less angry, I want to be like that. Muslims, they grow up saying, I want to be like Muhammad. Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, who's the example for Islam? Muhammad, he's the perfect guy. So when you ask a Muslim who's the most perfect man to ever live? Muhammad. Who's the greatest example to ever live? Muhammad. Okay, now if he's your example, you're gonna become like him, right? Young kids, it's very important what your children, who your children look up to, right? It's very important. If their hero is this guy, he's gonna be like that. If the hero is a wrestler, they're gonna end up being violent. If the hero is a sports player, they're gonna be in sport. Well, most of them hero is Muhammad. Well, you're gonna be like Muhammad. What's Muhammad like? Well, Muhammad married a six year old. Muhammad was sexually perverted. Muhammad had sex slaves. Muhammad had 11 wives. Muhammad people, Muhammad says kill the infidel. Muhammad wage war. Muhammad killed people. Muhammad. I'm not surprised they're looking up to this guy. And don't be surprised when Christians are loving because they're just being like Jesus. And don't be surprised when Muslims have kings and ill people. They're just being exactly like Muhammad who had sex slaves. What's happening in the UK now is. Is a result of Muhammad being idolized rather than banned. I think Muhammad. I think the character study of Muhammad should be banned from the West. I can't believe that we allow people to look up to this guy. I mean, if. At least if you're gonna study the Quran, remove these verses out of it.
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Jillian Michaels
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, I saw that video.
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Jillian Michaels
And you know, Carl Higby said that to me. He's like. When I was like. But Carl, he's like, have you read the book? Have you read it?
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And so what's. What's so frustrating is you get 2 billion people and several hundred million are following horrifying ideas. I'm like, the idea of Islam is terrifying. The early stuff is just lovely, right? But then, okay, so we edit the book. What do you do? And by the way, who does it? Because they'll just kill that person. So who's the one that's like, yeah, all the sword verses later, Mohammed. The global jihad situation. We need to you know, that needs to be trim.
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Martin Sedra
We need an editor, which they'll never do.
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Jillian Michaels
They'll never do.
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Martin Sedra
They'll never do that.
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Jillian Michaels
Yet. They. They like good people. Good Muslims seem to just do that. Yeah, but the problem is. Okay, well, now you've got, you know, but exactly. Nevertheless, you still have several hundred million that are not doing that.
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Martin Sedra
That's the problem.
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Jillian Michaels
Question about evil. I've always, you know, my whole life, like, ah, oh, my God's not gonna create hell. Like no God of mine is. There's no devil. This is a myth. This is a boogeyman. Yeah, this is. And as I've gotten older, whether you've got Lucifer or Hell, you for sure have evil.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, my God, evil does exist.
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Jillian Michaels
My God.
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Martin Sedra
Epson files just made people realize how wicked people can get without and authority above them. There is evil in the world and it is heartbreaking, I think, by the way, imagine you and I are shocked at the evil we do see. Imagine how shocked God would be. God. Remember, God sees worldwide. And the only reason, by the way, we can see all this evil now is social media. Like 200 years ago, there was evil happening all around the world. Cases and murder and child sacrifice and nobody knew. And you and I, as imperfect beings, we see Epson files and we're so angry. We're so angry we feel horrified. Some people can't sleep at night. Imagine God in heaven, who's perfect and holy, who's never done anything wrong. And not only that, he sees the whole world's evil. How angry would God be? How right. Me and you, by the way, God has known about the Epstein files before the Epstein files came out. Me and you just found out about the Epstein files. God knew from the beginning. God knew about the Epstein files the moment it happened. God knows who was on that island. God knows who was there. God knows who sacrificed babies. God knows who murdered God knows the Epstein files already. And this is why God has hell. This is why God created hell. Number God created hell for the demons and his followers. The angel that rebelled against God. God created hell to punish the angel that rebelled against him as an eternal condemnation. Now this is a problem when there is wicked people like Epstein. I think hell is very justifiable.
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Jillian Michaels
I agree with you.
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Martin Sedra
I think an eternal judgment for sinning. I think an eternal judgment for rebelling against God. I think an eternal judgment for rebelling against a holy and a perfect God. I think that's extremely justifiable. And I would call God hateful if he didn't give us a Way out, right? I would call God not righteous or not. It's not just. It's not fair. I would call God not just, oh, sorry, not. Not just. I would call him hateful. I'd call God hateful if he didn't have a way for us to get out of hell. But God is so loving that he didn't just say, yeah, you're going to hell, stuff you God like, no, I love you so much. I'm going to provide a way out. And that is repentance and believing in Jesus Christ. So I just think all the people feeling angry about the Epson files, imagine how angry God would be. And that's why when God destroys the Canaanites in the Old Testament, I'm not that surprised. I'm like, if I saw what was happening in Canaan, I would be angry if I saw what happened on Epstein Island. And by the way, none of us really know what happened on Epstein Island. We can, you know, we kind of know through the files. But do we really know everything? The amount of wickedness, amount of evil, vile things that happen, we would never know. Only God knows. And I guess God is the only one that can decide the punishment. God is the only one that can say, you know what? This is my punishment for you. And God hates sin so much that his punishment is not just hell, it's eternal hell. That's a scary thing of Christianity. It's, it's. It's. You either get it just never.
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Jillian Michaels
I was like, ah, it's a myth. It's something to scare kids into behaving.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And I used to see, you know, listen, there's evil. We've got Jeffrey Dahmer and all of that. But you're like, well, that person's mentally ill. You know, these are like outliers. Who's. There are studies on the brains of serial killers. And they're different than yours and mine. Literally physically different brains. You're thinking, well, that's an aberration. This is a rarity. The vast majority of people are good. You know, Hitler's insane. He was a meth head. I mean, he was a literal meth addict. Like, shocking how he was able to galvanize millions of people to kill millions of people. But you're thinking, that's like one lunatic. The thing with the Epstein files that I personally am so horrified by is this just normalizing collaborating of the world's most elite to bring down governments for profit. And so be it. When millions of people die in the process. Oh, Slovakia fell.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
Ah, Ukraine. Get involved, make sure that goes down. Like, it. Bankers, hedge fund managers, politicians. It. It's this you cannot believe. How wicked, how wicked, how many people. And they're clearly not mentally ill. Yeah, yeah.
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Martin Sedra
And that's this thing. Every wicked person will be judged. And some people. You know, there's a verse in the Bible where David says, lord, the wicked are successful and the wicked and evil are. That's David. David had the same struggle. You say now David, in the Book of Psalms, he says, lord, the wicked are successful and they're flourishing. And here I am as a good man in the wilderness without my palace, without my kingdom and all this stuff. And it's a fair question, Lord, why are they. Why is evil getting let go like that? Why is evil just getting shrugged under the carpet so many times and getting covered up? And the truth is, we live in an evil world where people cover up evil. But you don't need to worry on Judgment Day. As Christians, we believe on Judgment Day, every sin will be played on the biggest screen you can imagine. Every evil will be, and every wicked person will be judged in hell. I believe there's a special place in hell for people who are part of the Epstein files. I believe, and not everybody. The people that sacrifice babies, there is a special place in hell for these guys. The people that murdered babies, the people that raped children, the people that had sex slaves. There is a special place in hell for these guys. But this is the thing. It's.
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Jillian Michaels
It's too freaking many people, though.
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Martin Sedra
That's a reality. And that's why the Bible says, wide is the road that leads to hell and many will enter it. Wide is the gate that leads to destruction, and many are going to enter into it. But it says, narrow is a road that leads to life and only a few will find it. And that's why I tell people, if you feel God knocking on your heart, you are so blessed and you are so loved by God, because that means God cares so much about you that he knocks on your heart. He knocks and knocks and knocks. He's like, I love you so much. I actually don't want you to go to hell. And he keeps knocking and knocking and knocking. But this is the thing about Christianity is God knocks until the day you die, but the moment you die, it's finished. The Bible says that God will return one day like a thief in the night. No one knows when a thief is coming, right? We don't know when he's coming. Some people tell me, I'm gonna turn to Jesus and Stop living in sin. When God comes, you know, on my deathbed, I'm gonna suffer on my deathbed, I'm gonna be good. Well, the problem is you don't know when you're gonna die.
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Jillian Michaels
Gonna get out of jail free card. I'm just gonna wait to cash it in.
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Martin Sedra
You don't know when you're gonna die, and you don't know when he's gonna come back. And your job is to actually be ready for his return. And be ready for his return is living holy, obeying the Lord fully, and believing that he died on the cross for your sin. And anybody can really turn to Jesus. And this is the thing. When people talk about the Epstein files, for me, Jillian, it's. It's. I find it. I saw a Muslim, Muslim girl. She's like, see, there was no Muslims on the Epstein files. It was all Christians and Jews. See, I'm like, honey, if Muhammad was here, he would be Epstein himself. Yeah, Actually, if Muhammad. Thank the Lord, by the way, America is not a Muslim nation because Epstein was be praised. Right? Thank the Lord that America is a Christian nation built on Christianity, built on the ten Commandments. Thank the Lord for that. Because if it was built under Sharia law, Epson files would be extremely normal. People see the Epstein files and be like, what's wrong with that? We don't care about women. We don't care about raping. You know, in Islam, by the way, you know, in Islam, the Quran, Muslims are allowed to have sex slaves and people who are not Muslim.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes, I do know that.
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Martin Sedra
So that's actually. That's actually in a Quran and a Hadith. So the Quran describes it as whatever your right hand possesses. If you go to war, if you go to war and you catch a woman, they actually can become your sex slaves. You can't rape a Muslim, but you can rape a non Muslim. And that's why on October 7, what happened? The Hamas, the Muslim terrorists, they shouted Allahu Akbar. God is great. Our raping people while mutilating, you know, breaking a girl's leg on the back of the ute and all this stuff. Why they're allowed to do that? They're actually, for them, the infidel. And raping non Muslims for them, that's not like wickedness or evil for them, that's actually holy faithfulness. It's actually them obeying the Quran. That's kind of how they view it. And in heaven, heaven for Muslims is literally a brothel, right?
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Jillian Michaels
Yes. This is the X amount of virgins. And you never lose Your erection and they're all virgins in the High man grows back. Raymond Ibrahim.
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Martin Sedra
Literally. So 72 versions. Islam is a sexually perverted religion. Muslims, by the way, claim to be the most holy, righteous people. My wife covers her hair, and she's so holy and modest and all that. Islam is the most sexually perverted ever. The most sexually perverted religion. Like In Afghanistan, in 2023, the Taliban, the Muslim government. So the woman in. In Afghanistan already cover their hair, right? They cover their hair, and they do that to not tempt the man. The men in Afghanistan went to the Taliban and they said, that's what that is.
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Jillian Michaels
It's to not tempt.
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Martin Sedra
It's modesty. It's modesty. I don't want to tempt the men.
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Jillian Michaels
I didn't know that.
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Martin Sedra
Okay.
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Jillian Michaels
So I really didn't understand. I'm like, what is with the thing?
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Martin Sedra
Yep.
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Jillian Michaels
I thought it was some sort of, like, humbling almost.
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Martin Sedra
So it's modesty. It's covering themselves. Some Muslim women wear a hijab. That's when they cover their hair. Okay. Yeah, they cover it. They cover their body, they cover their arms, everything in order to not tempt the men. In 2023, the Muslim men in Afghanistan, and everybody can look at this. In 2023, the Muslim men went to the Taliban, the government, and said, hey, the Muslim women are still tempting us. How are they tempting you? Well, we can see their face. Well, they're covering their hair, but we can see their face. You can still see their eyes. We can still see their cover them. So they pass laws. Now they wear the next level of hijab, which is not the one that covers your head. It's the one that covers your whole face. That's where you see. Have you seen the nets?
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Jillian Michaels
Yes, I have.
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Martin Sedra
So that's the next level of hijab. That's another one where. All right, the eyes are tempting you. Let's cover her. So now the woman literally just has a few holes on her eyes where she can see you. Like, they're literally walking blind. Even when a woman eat in public, they're not allowed to just pull it off and eat. They have to eat like that. They can't show you their mouth. The lips of a woman apparently tempts them. Right. It didn't stop there. I thought that was enough. The Muslim men in Afghanistan are so sexually perverted that they were still getting tempted after that law passed. How were they getting tempted? They went to the government, the Taliban, and the Muslim man said, hey, I know. We covered her Head. We covered her face, we covered her ankles and her hands, and everything's covered. But we're still getting tempted by the Muslim woman. How are we getting tempted? The Muslim men said their voice is tempting us. And you can look this up. In 2023, the Taliban and Afghanistan passed laws that women. As of today, women in Afghanistan are not allowed to speak in public. They're not allowed to sing in public, they're not allowed to laugh in public. In fact, if you're in your own house and you're singing, just singing, and the windows are open and someone hears you outside, that is a penalty. You're not allowed to. Why? Your voice tempts me. And that's what you call animalistic culture, right? Animalistic culture is like, the guy's a dog and he can't control himself. Right? Me and my wife, we have a little Chihuahua. She's a dumb dog. And you know, when we leave the house, I leave my food on the table and I tell, you know, as we're about to leave, my wife tells me, put the food away. I'm like, hey, why? Well, just clean it when I get back. My wife says, no, the dog is going to eat the food if you leave it there. I'm like, can't the dog control herself? No, she can't because she's a dog. She has animalistic culture. Dogs, the difference between humans and dogs is we have self control. We can actually say, no, don't do that. Right? Dogs can't. If a dog see a chicken, they're going to have that chicken. And that's what Islam culture is. Islam's culture is animalistic. It's like, I'm not a human with self control. I'm an animal. The only way to control an animal is to limit it exposure, right? Limit it, Blind them, cover the woman, shut the woman up. Stop it. Go in your room, shut up, shut the door. Women have to cover themselves. And Christianity, on the other hand, what does Jesus, what does the Bible say? The Bible says if you look at a woman with lust, you have already committed adultery in your heart. So Jesus doesn't say, hey, it's a woman's fault. No, he says, if you lust over that woman who's someone else's wife, who's someone else's daughter, you've already committed adultery in your heart. And the Bible says, if your eye, if your eye causes you to sin, if your eye causes you to look at a woman with lust, the Bible says, gouge your eyes out. It's not literal, obviously. No, One gouges her eyes out. But metaphorically, God is telling you, don't blame the woman. Turn your eyes. This is the beauty of Jesus Christ. When all the feminists say, I don't like Christianity and all that stuff. Like, man, Jesus is the most beautiful figure. He tells men to honor you. He tells men to look at you, made in the image of God, to see you as a daughter of God, to see you as a daughter, a creation of God, not some sex object for their enjoyment like Islam. So Jesus says, gouge your eyes out, cut your hands off, who causes you to stumble. He puts the blame on you. There was a Muslim imam, huge. Famous Indian Muslim imam. He's a Muslim teacher, huge. Most Muslims listen to this guy, that Muslim imam who? Americans listen to him today. That Muslim imam. Someone asked him, hey, in a r Pe case, who are we to blame? Who are we to blame? And that's actually on my Instagram, on my social media. I played that video and responded to it, if you don't believe me. That video is a real video. They asked the Muslim imam, if a woman gets raped, whose fault is it? The Muslim imam said, if the woman was not dressing modestly, if the woman was not covering herself. This is word for word. If the woman was not dressing modestly, if the woman was not covering herself, if the woman was not following the Quran and its principles and, you know, cover your head and cover your eyes and all these things and she gets r? Ped. He literally says, if she gets who's to blame, she's to blame. It's not the man's fault for lusting over her and raping her. It is her fault. She should have covered herself. See, Jesus says, even if you look at her with lust, Jesus didn't even say, if you sleep with her. He says, if you just look and think about it, it's your fault. Muhammad says, if you rape her, it's not your fault, it's her fault. It's animalistic culture. This is what's happening. And that's why the cases in the UK Are so high. You know the cases in the UK through the roof.
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Jillian Michaels
I know.
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Martin Sedra
You know, why the cases. And this is my theory. And Germany and all across Europe.
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Jillian Michaels
I know.
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Martin Sedra
So the reason the cases are so high in the west, the reason the cases so high across Europe is simple. Step one. Muslim men have never seen a woman uncovered. They have never seen a woman's skin. Okay? The Muslims come from Afghanistan, from Pakistan. They've never seen a woman's head. They've never seen her hands. They've never seen her ankles. So they've never seen anything. Okay, that's step one. Step two. The Muslim men are promised 72 versions in heaven. Okay, so they've never seen a naked woman, but they're imagining a naked woman. Yes, they're imagining it. So I've never seen it, but I'm thinking about it. So all the Muslim men, there's like there was a funny. There was a. In Indonesia, Indonesia is about 90 Muslim. There was a poster on the wall, a shampoo poster. Shampoo poster. The lady is promoting shampoo, but she's still wearing her hijab, right? And she's acting like she's putting shampoo in her hijab. Someone took a photo. Someone took a photo of Muslims making out with that poster. Okay, so now, so. So the Muslims have never seen a naked woman. They would have seen her ankles. But they're imagining it in heaven. They're dreaming about it. I can't wait for 72 virgins. I can't wait for 72 virgins. I can't wait for the woman. And the Quran, by the way, is very pornographic. The Hadith is very pornographic. Like if you think the Quran is holy, it's not. It's like big breasts and. Exactly what you explained before. So now imagine they've never seen a woman. They're dreaming about it. Now they move to Europe. Now they move to the west. And now heaven is on earth. Now heaven is on earth. Now the woman they've been dreaming about is right there at the beach. Now the woman they've been dreaming about is right there in the street. Right there. Right there. Right there. What do you expect from these guys? What do you expect? And not only that. Muhammad tells you raping a non Muslim is not a sin. So now you do the formula. They've never seen her. They're imagining her. She's right there. It's not wicked. It's actually righteous. Add that all up, you get rape cases in the UK, you get 200,000 cases done by 80% of them, done by Pakistani Muslims in 20 years. I'm not really surprised. I'm not really surprised. And that's why I tell people Islam is incompatible with the West. Islam is not compatible. People call me racist. They call me Islamophobic. I don't care what you call me. I don't give a crap. I care more about America than what you think about me. Call me Islamophobic and racist. I'm not. I'm simply stating the truth. Islam is not compatible with the West. Islam does not believe in freedom. Like the west was built on freedom, right? We actually believe in freedom of religion. You don't have to follow Jesus. You don't have to follow the Bible. You can actually do your own thing, right? We believe in freedom. The rich young ruler in the Bible didn't want Jesus. He walked away. He let him. I'm not gonna kill you for it. You can actually reject me. We're not gonna hold a gun to you. We believe in freedom. America was built on freedom. Islam does not believe in freedom. We believe in freedom of speech. Under Sharia law, they don't believe in freedom of speech. I can't say what we're doing now mean you'll go to jail.
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Jillian Michaels
I know.
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Martin Sedra
Under Sharia law. We believe in freedom of religion. They don't believe in freedom of religion. Convert to Islam or you die. We believe in freedom of to gather and protest. They don't believe in freedom to gather and protest. You speak up against my government, we're going to kill you. That's what they did in Iran, right? Iran. The Iranians are protesting into the Islamic regime. You can't do that. Let's kill you all. Let's shoot you all. We believe in freedom. They don't believe in freedom. Islam is not compatible with the west because in the west, we actually honor women like women actually are honored. Women are protected. Women are loved. Women are cherished in Islam. Women are not honored or protected. Woman. If a woman is, is raped and she shares her testimony, she could actually go to jail. Like, if, if, if, if, if they kind of favor that guy more, she can go to jail. So you have a bunch of women in Pakistan who got r ped, but they're the ones in jail, not the man, because they would rather believe the man and believe the woman. Islam allows men to beat their wives. Islam allows sex slaves. Islam tells a woman to cover their head. Islam's not compatible with the West. And lastly, the other one is children. As I said, in the west, we protect our children. Muslims don't protect children. You're allowed to marry an underage, you know. Have you heard Muslims say muhammad, may peace be upon him? Of course, Muslims always say, muhammad, may peace be upon him. They actually can't say Muhammad without saying, may peace be upon him. I want to change it to not Muhammad, may peace be upon him. I change it to muhammad, may the police be upon this guy. This guy is the police. Wherever Muhammad is, the police need to go there. I'm telling you, these guys In America, the police need to go into every mosque and monitor what they're teaching. They need to monitor what they're teaching. You don't need to come to our churches. Don't worry. We're teaching love. You don't need to come to our churches. We're fine. You need to go to the mosques. They just found a mosque in California and a mosque in Michigan. There was a security camera, and someone literally found a security camera and hijacked it. Because in church, we go live, right? Churches go live. We. Our whole sermon is live. The whole world can see it. We're not hiding anything in mosques. They don't go live as much as the Christians. Their message is covered. It's. You don't go live. You don't post all your sermons on YouTube. It's. And I really want to know what are they teaching in that mosque? Because they found that literally in Michigan and California and Florida, someone got the security footage that was recorded, and they found a Muslim teacher on Friday at the mosque telling people, kill the Jews, Kill the Christians. Kill the infidel. They sing those songs. Like, they don't just preach it, they sing it. May Allah, curse the Jews, May Allah. That's their prayers. So I want to really know what are they teaching in those mosques? I'm not surprised. All these Muslims are now blowing up in America, and people. I'm not surprised. They're teaching it in their Quran. The. The terrorists are not coming. They're not in the Middle East. The terrorists are in America right now. We have a bunch of terrorists hiding in America.
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Jillian Michaels
I just put a video into the Tommy Robinson podcast where I want to talk to you about Mamdani. Mamdani is speaking at this mosque. He gets off stage to sing a little bit, and it's, you know, kill all the infidels. I'm like, wait.
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Martin Sedra
Crazy.
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Jillian Michaels
Wait.
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Martin Sedra
Crazy.
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Jillian Michaels
Wait a minute. And this guy is, you know, mister, Like, I love all New Yorkers. I love all New Yorkers. Sex changes for children, and we're gonna pay for it with our tax dollars. And I love everybody. Meanwhile, you come to find out his wife is liking up all these posts of Hamas killing kids and women. October 7th and 8th. You don't even get the whole, like, I was just really upset about what happened in Gaza. This is October 7th, the day of and the day after. I don't understand how this guy is hiding in plain sight and how he says these things like, we're going to use tax dollars to pay for sex changes. That is surely not in The Quran that you swore in on.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And you. This is where I first learned about Takiya as I saw a video of you saying, yeah, this is all an illusion.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
Do you believe that?
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Martin Sedra
See, when I said that Zohar Hamdani is lying at the beginning after I posted that video, I was like, man, did I go too far? Is he just a nice Muslim? Now the facts are coming out.
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Jillian Michaels
Oh, yeah.
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Martin Sedra
And I'm like, crap, I was right. I was right. Zohar Ramdani is actually lying. You see, Islam, for the last 1400 years, they've been conquering nations. Okay? Islam is known for conquering nations. They Egypt was Christian conquered by Islam. Yemen was Christian conquered by Islam. Morocco was Christian conquered by Islam. Turkey, Iraq, Christian conquered by Islam. But this is different. This is a difference between Islam conquering nations back then and now. Back then, Islam conquered nation in 24 hours by the sword. You come in overnight, kill the people, the people. Kill the pastors, burn the churches. It's finished overnight. This nation is Muslim. Today. It's different. Muslims looked at the west. They looked at the great UK and the great Europe and the great America, the Great Britain, and they're like, man, crap. We can't take these guys. They're too strong for us. They're too mighty for us. Their weapons are too strong. The nuclear weapons are too strong. We're like an insect next to their power and might, okay? Christianity built the greatest nations in the world. That's a fact. Now they looked and they're like the Muslim Brotherhood looked at the west and they realized we can't defeat these guys by the sword. We're gonna have to change our strategy. And that's when they come up with a new strategy. We're going to infiltrate every sphere of America. The education sphere, the political sphere, the influencer sphere, the financial fear, the banks, the businesses, the politics, we're going to influence. We're going to get in all of these spheres.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Martin Sedra
And they changed from 24 hour takeover to 100 year takeover. Right.
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Jillian Michaels
You had seen the Brigitte Gabrielle talks about the plan from the Muslim Brotherhood that was entered into evidence. And you can, you can search it up. I have it in the podcast and it's 100 year plan, Muslim Brotherhood. And it was entered after 9, 11.
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Martin Sedra
Yes. So they went from 24 hour takeover to 100 year takeover. They went from violence to taqiyah. That's where Taqiyyah comes in. Taqiyah is a teaching in Islam taught in the Quran, taught in hadith, where Muslims are Allowed to lie to you for the sake of spreading Islam. If any Muslim feels that him or the mission of Islam is in danger from what he says, he's allowed to lie to you. They're allowed to. And I got receipts for this. Muhammad literally lied. Muhammad went to a city he wanted to conquer. It, realized they were too big for him. Him, the city was too huge for him. He signed a 12 year peace treaty with that nation. 12 year peace treaty with that city. They're like, I want to attack you. You want to attack me. Two years into the peace treaty, Muhammad has the army. He's like, stuff this peace treaty. I'm going two years in, they're not ready. They come in, kill people. That's taqiyah, that's lying. I'm going to lie to you because I don't have the power yet. They did that on October 7, you know, the Israelis. Reports came out. The Israelis that lived on the border between Israel and Palestine, the Israelis there, they used. They. They had Gazans come through the border to work for them, right?
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Jillian Michaels
Dave Rubin told.
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Martin Sedra
There was laborers who. Gazan laborers, Muslims who came through the border to work for the Israelis as landscapers, as carpenters, as different trades. They worked for them for five years, six years, 10 years. They trusted them. No drama. Come through the border, work for the Israelis. Come back on October 7th when the Hamas, the evil, wicked, sexually perverted Hamas came in and burnt people and beheaded people. They came in and killed everybody living in the border. They killed people in Israel. They took hostages and reports out of the people that escaped from Hamas. From October 7, some reports came of Israelis saying the people that attacked us in our home on October 7 were not normal terrorists. These guys knew our house back to front. They knew where our children slept. They knew where our bunkers were. They knew where our babies were. They knew where the cots were. How? The people that attacked them were not some terrorists from Hamas. They were the landscapers. They were their carpenters. They were their cleaners that have been coming to their house for five, 10 years. But little did they know, they've been working there. But little did they know that those Muslims were not just working there. They were studying their house back to front. They were recording how many people live in this house. Five people live here. A man and a wife and five children live here. Ten children live here. Four people live here. Two families live here. They were recording this on October 7th when they came in. They were not going to let anybody live. So the people that killed on October 7th were not just random terrorists. These were landscapers. These were landscapers. These were normal Muslims. And that's where Zohra Hamam Dani comes in. Now, Zohramandani is the ultimate image of Taqiyah, the ultimate image of. Of lying, of deception. In fact, I'm not surprised because the Quran describes Allah as the greatest of deceivers. Okay? The greatest of deceivers. Muhammad. Muhammad says he's the greatest liar. He's described as one of the greatest, the greatest deceivers. Muhammad has a quote. Muhammad has a quote. And his quote is this. War is deceit,
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Jillian Michaels
okay?
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Martin Sedra
Muhammad says war is deceit, right? Now, when you get all of this, now you look at Zohar Mamdani through that lens. Don't. Don't view Zormadani through a white lens, okay? Through a western lens. View him. View him through a Quranic lens. When you look at this guy, Zohar Mandani, I know he looks good.
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Jillian Michaels
Oh, he's super smart, you know, well spoken. Charismatic.
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Martin Sedra
Charismatic.
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Jillian Michaels
Way better of a candidate than all the other people smiling. I know.
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Martin Sedra
Always cheeky.
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Jillian Michaels
Inclusive. Inclusive, yep.
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Martin Sedra
Very loving. Drives a bus. He doesn't want to. He doesn't want to come in a big van and big car. Like President. She wants to come in a bus. And humble and meek. And his wife is amazing, beautiful. Thank you, man. I'm like, okay, okay, okay. Makes sense. Now look at his life. He says. He says to the trans. I love the trans community. Zohar Ramamdani paraded in the trans. And the pride parades. He paraded with them. Zohar Hamamdani was literally invited into churches and the pastor prayed for him.
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Jillian Michaels
We loved for Zoron Jews, which actually are. Is not run by Jews. It's run by Neville Roy Singham's niece, who's the same psychopath that's funding all the riots. But that's. That's okay.
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Martin Sedra
And then he wears a keeper. I saw Zoram Dani wearing a keeper. I'm like, crap. This guy is either like, not a Muslim at all, like, this guy does not read the Quran, or he's lying, like, literally lying in order to get our votes. And. And this is a. A famous quote. It's the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Okay. You know, they surely do.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Martin Sedra
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Where. Okay, I. If I don't. If I don't like you and I want to destroy your life, I don't want. I don't like her either. I want to destroy her. But you're My greater enemy. So what am I going to do? I'm going to unite with her. She's still my enemy. I'm going to hold hands with her.
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Jillian Michaels
The Islamists and the liberals.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, exactly. So. So the Islamists, there's a. There's an We. Wicked, weird, unbelievable, confusing alliance. There's a weird alliance between the liberals and the Islamists. Okay? The Democrats, you can call them the Islamocrats. Right? The Islam and the Democrats combining together to join hands. Hold hands for a little bit. They're going down the park. In fact, they're sleeping together in the same bed in order to kill the Christians. All right, there's one goal here. One goal. The liberals hate America. Okay?
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Jillian Michaels
Think. They think. Here's the thing.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
They think that the Christians are so cruel to the trans people.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly.
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Jillian Michaels
And they think zoron genuinely means exactly, like, great things for the trans people. Like, they actually. Hence the concept of being a useful idiot. They don't understand.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly.
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Jillian Michaels
They don't know.
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Martin Sedra
They don't know. So they're holding hands together. So Muslims, imagine, I hate that guy, but I'm like, crap, I can't kill my bigger enemy if I don't hold his hand. Guess what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna force myself to hold his hand for a little bit, right? I'm gonna hold his hand for a little bit. I'm gonna. I'm gonna claim to love him for a little bit until we kill that
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Jillian Michaels
guy like the first day.
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Martin Sedra
Once I kill that guy, yeah, you're my next enemy. You're my greatest enemy. And this is the thing. When they say, gays for Gaza, transfer Hamas, gays for Palestine. Free, free Palestine. Free, free Palestine. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. All the gays and the trans are saying, I'm like saying, gays for Gaza, it's like saying chickens for kfc, right? Saying gays for Gaza, it's like saying pigs for bacon. It doesn't make sense. Like, you need to actually study because the only reason trans can live in America is because Christianity is a religion of freedom.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Martin Sedra
We don't kill you. You have the right to reject God. Right? God says, I've given you the way of life and death. If you want death, you can. If you want to reject Jesus, you can. We're not going to kill you. We're gonna preach to you, right? We're gonna tell you to repent, but we're not gonna for it. In Islam, if a gay Person goes to Gaza, they'll be killed. If a trans goes to Palestine, they'll be thrown over building. Muhammad's cousin, his cousin, you know, Ali and all the Arab names. They found a gay guy and they just burnt him. That's just burn him. Another guy in the Quran, you know, his cousin, they found a gay guy. So what did they do? They pushed a brick wall over him.
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Jillian Michaels
Just anything to be able to sit with Zoran Mamdani and be like, you put your hand on that Quran when you swore an oath to run New York. Yeah, tell me about this verse. When you go to that gay bar the evening that you're, you know, before the election. Tell me about that. But they don't show up for those interviews. Do not show up.
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Martin Sedra
He would never sane.
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Jillian Michaels
And it just, it's like. And, and then the people on the left, they just. You're the deplorable, you're the bigot, you're the Islamophobe. And you're thinking, read the book.
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Martin Sedra
Read the book. That's it.
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Jillian Michaels
Read the book. And it's, it's one thing if he doesn't believe in it, but when he puts his hand on it and he swears upon it, it's an indication he's read it. When the mosque he goes to shortly after he walks off stage, says all the infidels. When his wife is liking posts about Hamas slaughtering children on October 7th and October 8th. Like when he's singing yes, praise the holy land. 5 who funded Al Qaeda in 9, 11, anyone?
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Martin Sedra
So there's a video and then there's a video of Zohar Hamdani saying we should all follow the example of Prophet Muhammad. May peace be upon him who migrated from Mecca to Medina seeking refuge. That's how we should. We should follow the Prophet Muhammad. I'm like, oh, really? You want me to follow Prophet Muhammad? You want me to infidel? You want me to wage war? You want me to r people? You want me to have 11 wives? You want me to marry a six year old? Sorry, Zahran, I'm not following that guy. Muhammad stuff, that pedophile, bro, I'm not married. I'm not talking to that guy. I don't want that guy. I don't want to mention his name. I want that guy in jail. I know he's dead right now, rotting, but I want that guy in jail. If Muhammad was here today, okay, if Jesus was here today, he'll be loved. If Jesus came in America today, people would love him. There were some People believes in a Christ like fashion.
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Jillian Michaels
Love for everybody, acceptance for everybody. I mean, it's quite.
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Martin Sedra
If Muhammad was. If Muhammad walked the streets of America, if Muhammad came in the studio, everybody would call the cops. Muhammad's here, bro. Come get this guy before he me. Muhammad's here, bro. Come get this guy before he marries my son or my daughter. Muhammad, compare it. Would you rather Muhammad live here in America or Jesus? I would rather Jesus any day. Jesus is peaceful and. And this is the thing about Taqiyyah, Muslims. Muslims are holding hands with the liberals only to get rid of Christianity. Both are uniting over one cause and one mission. And that's hate for the west, hate for the Constitution, hate for Christianity and hate for Jesus. The liberals hate Jesus and the Muslims hate Jesus. And they say, we love Jesus. I'm like, you're a liar. You believe Jesus is the prophet, not God. So they lie that way. They love Jesus, but he's not the Jesus of the Bible. That's a different story. Yes, but, but, but this is the thing. Muslims have a sequence of. The Muslims have a sequence of they, they one group at a time. And Muslims are very strategic. They know if they wage war against everybody, everyone will unite, they'll take them out. So they're uniting. They're just one enemy at a time. And this is the way I say it. Muslims holy day is Friday, okay? That's their holy day. That's when they go to the mosque to pray. The Jews holy day is Saturday, okay? That's when they go to the temple. That's what the Sabbath. The Christians holy day is Sunday. That's when we go to church. Because Jesus rose on Sunday morning. The atheist holiday. Most of them, their holiday, kind of Monday. That's when they build their empire, they build their business. You can say it that way. Muslims have a sequence, okay? The people of Friday, the Muslims first ought to kill the people of Saturday, the Jews. That's why they hate the Jews. Muslims hate the Jews, and that is their first enemy. Kill Israel, destroy Israel. They shout, death to the Jews. Muslims view America as a big demon, Israel as a little demon. So Friday people, the Muslims, the people of Saturday. Who comes after Saturday, Sunday, after. The people of Saturday are dead comes the people of Sunday. And that's where the next one is. After the people of Saturday and Sunday are dead, who comes next? The people of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, whatever it is, the liberals, the gays, the trans, the feminists, the atheists, they're coming after you. And I think all the people that have been Attacking Christianity. A lot of people, you know, attack Christianity. They said, I don't believe in this God and I believe in this. And they attack Christianity in the Bible. I think when they look at Islam and how wicked it is, they're like, I don't mind Christianity. I think it's actually pretty okay. You know, there's a lot of atheists, I can't remember that. There's a big atheist guy, I can't remember his name, but he attacked Christianity huge. And he last year said a quote, he lives in Europe, Europe. He said something, I can't remember his name. He's a huge guy. He said though, he said, he said something along the lines with, I prefer cultural Christianity. I'm not a Christian. He didn't say I'm a Christian, but he said I prefer cultural Christianity. I prefer. And this is what every, you know, American needs to answer. Would you rather Jesus or would you rather Muhammad? Would you rather the ten Commandments or would you rather Sharia law? Would you rather churches, Murray street corner and church bells or would you rather mosques in every street corner? Would you rather pray in schools or would you rather prayer mats in New York? Would you rather us pray to Jesus even if you don't believe Israel? Would you rather us pray to Jesus who is peaceful and loving or would you rather pray to Muhammad? What would you rather. And people, every American actually has to answer this question because every nation will exalt a God, okay? Every nation has to be ruled by set of moral values, okay? Every. There's no such thing as we're just gonna let everybody decide their moral values for themselves, right? You decide what, what your standard of morality is. You decide what your standard of morality is. If the atheist decided standard of morality, well, what if he thinks, you know, that guy's okay, you know, what about Hitler? Let's let Hitler decide a standard of morality. It's the Jews need to be. What about, let's let the Muslims decide the standard of morality. Let's let the kids marry. The kids marry a six year old. Every nation, whether we like it or not, has. They have to decide what is the standard of morality. And a standard of morality is not just found in every person. You decide you're right and you're wrong because you a guy and I'll think you shouldn't a guy. Hitler would, if Hitler was here, decide it. We have to decide a standard of morality. And this is what every American needs to answer the question. What standard of morality would you prefer? Would you prefer Islam or would you Prefer Christianity. And he said, you know, separate church and state. And we believe, you know, that the state should not have a church. We believe the state should not. There should not be a church.
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Jillian Michaels
It's not a theology church.
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Martin Sedra
We don't believe. No, we don't believe that. Which there should be separation. The government should not get involved in our churches. The church should not, you know, be running the government. We don't believe in that. But they kept telling us they took that far. And now what's happening is we have a bunch of people saying, you know, Christians shouldn't get involved in politics. Christians should not become politicians. Christians should not run for mayors and governors. Christians should just stay in your church. Church and be nice and preach Jesus and all that. And now that a lot of Christians stayed out of politics, I mean, I heard a fact that 50 of Christian Californians don't even vote, which shocked me. I was like, you are so stupid. Like, you are dumb for not voting. Because guess what?
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Jillian Michaels
I did not know that.
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Martin Sedra
Well, around 50.
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Jillian Michaels
Nothing.
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Martin Sedra
I just heard that stat a few weeks ago, actually.
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Jillian Michaels
Very interesting.
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Martin Sedra
And. And now I'm like, okay, because you're
- [110:28]
Jillian Michaels
probably not familiar on exactly the most religious.
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Martin Sedra
Well, all right. You don't want Jesus, let's get Muhammad. You don't want the Ten Commandments. Remember, there's a huge argument, you know, 10, 20 years ago where they're like, Ten Commandments out of schools. Our kids should not be looking at the Ten Commandments. Our kids should not be praying in school. You shouldn't be doing that. Well, now you have, you know, you have Islam getting taught in school. You like that. And again, people kick Jesus out. And whether you like it or not, someone sits in that chair and it's either going to be Jesus or Muhammad, either the Bible. Even if you're an atheist, someone has to sit in that chair. And you got to decide. Who do I want to sit in that chair? Even if you're not a Christian man, I much rather. Even if I'm an atheist. If I was an atheist, I would say, I like the Ten Commandments. They're a lot better than Sharia law. So I think what's going to happen now is you're going to get a lot of atheists as they see the rise of wickedness of Islam. They're going to be like, oh, let's bring Christianity back. Yeah, okay. Which is amazing. Amazing. So. So let's bring Jesus back. Let's bring the Ten Commandments back. Let's bring love your neighbor back. Let's Bring freedom back. Let's bring peace back. Let's.
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Jillian Michaels
It's not necessarily atheist, but it's, it's
- [111:35]
Martin Sedra
a non believer believing you're right.
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Jillian Michaels
Exactly like I believe in God. I don't know what it is. I'm agnostic, but boy. All right, everybody, picture this. It's late at night, you're scrolling, and bam. The perfect product hits your feed. You add it to the cart, you shop a bit more, you head to checkout, but your wallet is across the room. And then you spot it. That purple shop pay button. No digging for your cart, no forgotten passwords. Just one tap and you're done. It's a game changer in the chaos of online shopping. And that is the power of Shopify for millions of businesses worldwide. In fact, Shopify drives 10% of all US E commerce. From household names like Alaya Naturals and Kylie Cosmetics to solo businesses just starting out like Ranch Rich Streetwear. So if you have a dream to build an online store, there is no better platform than Shopify. With hundreds of stunning templates that match your brand. AI tools that write killer product descriptions, headlines, and even enhance the photos in seconds, their tools let you market like a pro. Create emails and social campaigns that reach customers wherever they're scrolling. And best of all, they handle inventory, payments, analytics, and more in one intuitive dashboard. Basically, Shopify is your expert partner with 247 award winning support. So see, less carts go abandoned and more sales go with Shopify and their shop pay button. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com Jillian. Just go to shopify.com Jillian that's shopify.com/. Jillian, I, I appreciate everything that you're saying. And I'm like, talk to me about your religion.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's exactly.
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Jillian Michaels
Teach me about this. And yeah, you know, it's. It is it it. That's, that's where I'm at. I'm, I'm there on a cultural level, on a personal level. Like, I'm telling you my limitations. Like, I, I don't know that I'll ever get past the whole. Like, if you don't, I know I never will. If you don't accept Jesus, you go to hell. I'll never get there. But you know, I, I like a lot of the teachings. I like the 10. We talked about this, but boy, did you, did you.
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Martin Sedra
And by the way, it's rising.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm there.
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Martin Sedra
Yes. What your stance is. Thousands, hundreds of thousands of Americans are waking up now. They're like, crap I rejected Christianity. Now Islam's coming. Please bring Christianity back. Oh, yeah, and Europe as well, by the way. Europe. You know, Europe. Europe had some of the greatest Christian awakenings in the world, like in Christian history, when you study Christian history and church history, Europe was like the place where revivals happened. By revival, when we say revival, it's like in one year, millions of people convert to Christianity. That's what we call revival, right? It's like a golden age, okay? That's revival. It's like, it's an awakening. A country didn't want God, now they want God. Europe was that nation, okay? John Wesley, a guy by the name of John Wesley, preacher, preached all across Europe in the 1700s. And, man, hundreds of thousand people came to Christ. Hundreds of thousands. Hundreds of thousands. Agnostics, atheists, whatever religion they were. George Whitefield preached in America. And, man, hundreds of thousands of people came to Christ. George Whitefield was actually preaching during the same time as George Washington. So when America was getting founded by George Washington, guess who was the preacher there? It was George Whitefield. And George Washington knew George Whitefield, who was a preacher who preached. And many people came to Jesus. Many people came to Christianity. In fact, you know, you know, on our. On our. On our. On our coins and the American notes, it says, in God we Trust. That was. There's a lot of stories that, that George Whitfield, who was a preacher during George Washington sign one of his main sermons and one of his main, like statements, he would say is, in God we Trust. That Sir George Whitford, before the founding of America, went around the American colonies saying, in God we trust. And some people, a lot of people believe. A lot of people believe that In God we Trust came from George Whitfield and now Europe. And this was happening in Europe. Remember, George Whitefield came from Europe. Jonathan Edwards was another revivalist, amazing preacher who came to America and brought revival across America. Billy Graham, a great revivalist, right? You would know. Billy Graham is from about 50 years ago, Madison Square Garden. You know, Madison Square Garden in New York now it's filled with Muslims. When. When Billy Graham was around, it wasn't Muslims that. That Times Square, this photo, you can look it up. Billy Graham preached Jesus Christ. And oh, man, when I tell you Times Square was packed, the whole place blocked off, people saying, I want to hear about Jesus. I want to hear about Jesus. And that's usually what happens. Gillian is across history, what happens is God blesses a nation, okay? Because they believe in him, okay? God blesses them because they believe In Him. When they believe in Jesus, when they believe in God, he blesses them, he prospers them, he makes them the greatest nation in the world. What happens is when God blesses a nation, they become prideful and they forget God. Right. It's kind of the cycle of even the Old Testament, the Israelites, or the cycle of history. The nation believes in God. God blesses the nation. The nation is prosperous, blessed. The economy is booming. God blesses the nation. They forget God. Right. People usually come to God when times are hard.
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Jillian Michaels
It's like the strong men make good times.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly, exactly.
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Jillian Michaels
Times make weak men, weak men make hard times. Hard times.
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Martin Sedra
That's the cycle. So that cycle is all the way from the Old Testament. In the Bible, the Israelites were slaves under Pharaoh. God sets them free, blesses them and give them promised land. They forget God. What happens next? God sends them away into slavery again. They remember God. He blesses them. He blesses them. They forget him. They forget him. He leaves them. He leaves them. They remember him. They remember him and believe in Him. He blesses them. And that's a cycle. And that's what's the cycle right now in America. This is where we are right now. See, Europe is a little bit of ahead of America. Europe in a four phase cycle, believing in God, God blesses them. Abandoning God, God abandons him.
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Jillian Michaels
Them.
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Martin Sedra
Europe right now, they believed in God through John Wesley, 1700s. God bless Europe. He blessed them, they were prosperous. Then what happens? They forgot God. The older generation, the baby boomers, forget the Lord. They forgot him. What a different game. We have money, there's no war. Life is good. I got my house, I got my comfort. Then God forgot them. God punishes them. Guess what phase Europe is in right now? It's in the God forgot us page. And we need him again. America's in that phase too. America. Now, you know, you can look up the stats. Church attendance is 50% higher. 30 to 50%. I can't remember that. Did you see that stat? There was a stat. I saw. It was three stats.
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Jillian Michaels
Something crazy.
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Martin Sedra
It was three stats. The three stats were church attendance. Maybe don't quote me on that one, the 50% one. It was maybe 30 or something like that. But there's, it's a real stat In America. Church attendance is at an all time high. Gen Z going to church is at an all time high. People reading the Bible is at an all time high. Christian music downloads is at an all time high. Where are we right now? We're at a place in God. We Trust George Whitefield. God bless our nation. The founding of America. We forgot God. God abandoned us. Now we're like, crap, I need God again. I need the Lord again. And I'm expecting in America, the next 10 years of America, as Islam is coming. I'm expecting Islam to come, but I'm expecting a revival in America. I am as a Christian pastor, As a Christian pastor, I believe that so many people are about to come to Jesus. I believe the more they see Islam and the more they see the wickedness, the more they see Epstein files. They're like, crap. If evil exists, there must be good. If the devil exists, there must be a God. And the question now is, I don't think America is in a phase now where they're questioning, is God real? I think we're over that.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Martin Sedra
I might be wrong, but I think atheism is kind of old now. Like, I think atheism. Atheism was cool, like 50 years ago, where, you know, all the Richard Dawkins and all the smart guys saying, God's not real.
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Jillian Michaels
That's the thing. All the scientists.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah. Yes. So that blew up.
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Jillian Michaels
Intelligent person.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
Knows that this is a myth and a fallacy and a story of the ignorant and this and that. I know because I was there.
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Martin Sedra
Yeah. So that was very famous.
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Jillian Michaels
The whole. I read God is not great and it's like archaic and judgmental and feeble minded and outdated and it preaches judgment and God is angry and there's a hell and it's a man cover to maintain civilization.
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Martin Sedra
Exactly, yeah. And now people are not. People are like, oh, you know what? I think there is a God. I just don't know which one. Right. There is a God. There is a God. And that's most people. When you really ask them to be honest, is there a God? They're like, yeah, which one? I don't know. That's me. That's me. And that's the thing, though. If there is. If someone created me. Well, someone created me and I have a designer and I have a person. I want to know, number one, who created me. And number two, I want to know why he created me. I actually want to know that. Right. If someone designed me, I want to know him. Right?
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Jillian Michaels
So.
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Martin Sedra
And that's where you kind of go, Lee Strobel, he was an atheist and he ended up. He wrote a book and a movie called Case for Christ where he actually, as an atheist, his wife became a Christian and he was angry. As an atheist, he was like, I'm gonna show my wife that this God is not real and God is a fairy tale. And he started on a case for Christ. He left. He. I think he's a journalist, and he went around from different countries to historians and scientists and all that, trying to prove that Jesus was not real. That was his first goal, to prove Jesus is not even a historical figure. That crumbled. The argument crumbled. Even atheists believe a man by the name of Jesus existed. So that argument crumbled right to the floor. The second thing he wanted to argue was, did Jesus actually die on a cross? That was the second thing, because he realized if Jesus didn't die, the Bible is wrong. So he went. That was a second discovery he wanted to battle. So he went to historians who knew the Roman times, who knew how the Romans crucify. And he asked them.
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Jillian Michaels
Victor Davis Hansen did it for me.
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Martin Sedra
And he asked them, did he really die? And that argument crumbled to the ground. Jesus Christ really did die. So the Muslims say, Jesus didn't die. That's how. By the way, most intellectual people, forget the pedophilia and the war and all that. Most intellectual people, when you ask them, do you consider Islam to be, like, maybe a true religion? They're like, that's dumb. Okay, Islam is just dumb because Muhammad literally says Jesus existed, but he didn't die on the cross, right? So people like, you're an idiot. There's literally, like. It's not just the four gospels in the New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, who write that a man by the name of Jesus died. There was like, Josephus and, And Tacitus. And there's a lot of extra biblical historians and writers who wrote. They won't remember. They weren't writing God died. They just wrote. They're just recording what happened in the time 2,000 years ago. And when you. When you read their records, they write, a man by the name of Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate. Like, I have a whole sermon on my YouTube just proving that he really did die. So for anyone listening to me, that's like, maybe Islam is the one. Muhammad is an idiot. Like, literally Muhammad. So. So imagine, Imagine. Imagine there's a. There's a fight. Me. And you see it me. You see a fight. And this guy wins, or this guy murders someone. And we know the story, and we write a record. Me and you, we write a record. This is what we saw. This is what happened. And 600 years later, right, 600 years later, a guy comes from a different country who didn't see It. Who never saw what happened, who doesn't know us. And he says, guys, Gillian and Martin, I know, wrote this, you know, manuscript, and I know they wrote their experience of the crucifixion. They're wrong. I'm right. You'll be like, you're an idiot. You're an idiot. I trust the guy who, 600 years. That's. That's how stupid, by the way Muhammad sounds. Jesus. People write, a man by the name of Jesus was crucified. We saw him after his resurrection. And then 600 years. Imagine 600 years after an event. Muhammad didn't come, like, 10 years after Jesus. 600 years. Muhammad was born in 570 AD. Islam was founded in 610 AD. 610 years after the birth of Jesus Christ, Muhammad comes and says, yeah, he didn't die on the cross. You're an idiot. Like this guy. Muhammad never saw Jesus. Muhammad doesn't speak the same language as Jesus. Muhammad was born on a different continent, country than Jesus, and he's never saw Jesus. I, like, just from a. From intellectual perspective, Christianity is a lot more provable than Islam. So for me, when I look at the world religions, I'm like, hinduism is already out because of the billion gods. That's just dumb. For me, atheism is stupid as well, because I just don't understand how a fascinating being like me can just explode out of nowhere. I don't understand how we look at a phone or a laptop with this mic when, like, someone designed this. But me and you, we look at how intricate our body was created, our mind, our heart, and the baby in Millie's womb. When we go do a scan, I'm like, yeah, I believe in a God. There's no way that little baby is going to grow into a huge Arab guy like me with a beard. Like, that's just not possible. So atheism for me is stupid, Hinduism is stupid. Islam just doesn't make sense, as I said, because he never saw Jesus. I don't trust that guy. For me, what else are you going to follow? You're going to follow pagan religions. You can, maybe you can check out Buddhism if you want. Christianity makes the most sense for me.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, Martin, I can't thank you enough for this. Where can people follow you, learn more, listen to you preach, tell everybody everything about where they can find you?
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Martin Sedra
Yeah, you can look me up on every social media platform. Martinsedra, martinsedra, Instagram, the whole thing. And also our website, my website, martinsedra.com and it's s e d r s. Yes, Martin Cedra.
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Jillian Michaels
I'll put it in the, in the notes, show notes as well. And if you could send me everything as well, I'll make sure.
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Martin Sedra
All right, I'll do that. Yeah. So if you want to get more equipped on Islam, if you even just have more questions about Jesus, because I know people listening, they're like, hey, I want to look for who the real God is. I think it's a great. I think what's happening now is God is knocking on a lot of hearts and I just pray that you don't have to, you don't have to say, I'm not telling you you have to follow Jesus. I'm not telling that to anybody listening to me. But what I am saying is, number one, don't reject the knock. And number two is search honestly. That's my advice as a pastor to everybody is search honestly. And I tell people if you search for the truth, you will not land at Islam, you're not land at Hinduism, you're not land at atheism. If you search honestly. Honestly like with a genuine non biased and just Lord God, whoever the heck you are, I don't know who you are. Just show me wherever you are. I don't know who you are. I know your name, I don't know what you are. If you show me who you are, I guarantee you and it's happened to millions of people across the world. If you search for the truth, you will land at the foot of Jesus. And I truly believe that you will land at the foot of Christianity. Exactly. Like many people every day I preach all around America. My wife and I, you know, do preaching tours all across the world. We're in London next week preaching, we're in Michigan tomorrow and we're preaching. And as I preach I get so many people come up to me from all walks of life, tell me, man, God knocked on my heart and today I opened the door. So I'm just so grateful. I get people. Literally at the end of my sermon yesterday, we were preaching and a young girl comes up to me, she's 40 and she tells me she's crying. She tells me I'm a Christian, but I married a Muslim. He deceived me, I married a Muslim, he beat me up. And thank you for your message, you saved me. And I'm like, lord, that's what I want to do. I just want, I just want to preach it. I don't want to force people. I just want to preach the Bible and the truth and you search for God and I pray you find the truth.
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Jillian Michaels
Thank you so much.
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Martin Sedra
Thank you. It was an honor to be here.
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Jillian Michaels
Thank you so much for watching. If you enjoyed the podcast, please, like, comment, subscribe and share. And make sure to let me know what guests you want to see on in the future.