← Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
THEY TOOK THE BAIT - TRUMP STATE OF UNION, SAVE ACT, NEWSOM BLOWBACK
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Jillian Michaels
All right, guys, welcome to the show. Do me a favor, please, like, share and subscribe if you are so inclined. It helps us out a ton with the algorithm. We got a lot to cover. Let's jump into it. Keeping it Real with Jillian Michaels. All right. It has been a heck of a week. A lot has happened. Of course, we had Trump's State of the Union address. The Clintons have begun their Epstein testimony. Uh, Gavin Newsom made the headlines. And I gotta be honest, I talk about this guy because I hope that by illustrating all of the lies, all of the corruption, all of the ways that California has descended into absolute madness and disrepair, people will make a different decision come 2028. But I'm starting to wonder if just giving this guy airtime is playing right into his hands. And yet we're gonna do it. I'm gonna do it because he's just so frickin bananas that I can't help myself. So we're gonna start out talking about the State of the Union. But my team, who I've asked to join us since you guys, I talk about them all the time. My two producers, Michael and Fletcher, pulled this clip for me for today's show, and it was so odd and disturbing, I couldn't even. I don't even. I'm gonna show it. Sought five. I defy Trump and his authoritarian project by standing in joyful, radical, peaceful resistance with the Portland Frog Brigade.
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Political Commentator
And then all of a sudden, he's not ready for primetime player. ICE agents with two weeks of training come after me. I got arrested in Portland. I got arrested in Minneapolis in the last three weeks, twice. But they can't erase a movement. All right, what I would 1,1000 of a lot of marginalized people and what they have to go through and. And those ICE detention centers.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay, guys, somebody tell me what this is. I should be telling you guys what it is, but I can't wrap my head quite around it. So since the guys pulled it for all of us, I'm going to let Fletcher tell you what. Fletcher, what is this?
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Producer Michael
So defiance.org hosted a state of the Swamp, which is kind of their version of State of the Union and rebuttal of the State of the Union. And the representative of Oregon, the first woman in that clip, she.
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Jillian Michaels
Wait, hold on. That woman is a member of Congress. You're telling me with the frogs. The lady with the frogs?
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Producer Fletcher
Yep.
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Producer Michael
Third district, Oregon.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay. Yes, got it. Okay.
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Producer Michael
And I believe the man who is dressed in a giraffe and underwear is just a protester that loves to get
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Jillian Michaels
arrested, it seems, in a giraffe ensemble.
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Guest or Contributor
Yes.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay. You know, thanks, honey. So here's the thing. I, I try not to focus on stuff like this because it's just so ridiculous, but you kind of have to, because the woman with the frogs is, is a, is a member of Congress. And this is the part where you start to think as a, as a reasonable human being, which I like to believe the majority of us are here in America. I know some of you are thinking, no, but I have faith that the majority of us have common sense. That is just such an unserious. That's the word I'm gonna use. An unserious thing to do. I can't wrap my head around it. Having said that, I think that many of the Democrats behaved in a very theatrical fashion to Trump's State of the Union, which we're going to talk about in just a moment. But first, I wanted to show you this. Let's take a look. College kids are telling us Trump's State of the Union didn't go so well. The only problem, it's tomorrow. Rate Trump State of the Union speech one out of ten. One's the worst. Ten's the best. Negatives and why? I think we all know a lot of reasons. What about the State of the Union last night? One to ten? It was like a one or two. I mean, it was all over the place. Gonna give it a one? And why do you say one?
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Sponsor or Advertisement Voice
I just, I don't think he's very articulate.
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Jillian Michaels
How did Trump do at the State of the Union? Zero. I'll be real. I didn't watch it, like, yeah, I didn't really watch it much. I watched it for a little bit, but the State of the Union last night, how, how was that? One to ten. He knows. I'll take those tomorrow. No, you're good. You passed the test. Good job. I, I, I show you this clip because I think it is very effective at illustrating the ways in which we are just so tribal that we no longer function in reality. We no longer have an open mind or a willing heart or the desire to function with the same facts or find common ground, because you have a bunch of kids that just answered along the party line, ah, such. He sucks. Trump sucks. That was terrible. He's an idiot. It was awful. It was all over the place. And of course, it didn't happen and they were lying and they never saw it. And that's what I find the most distressing. Not even so much the, the theatrics that go on amongst our politicians, because quite honestly, like, they all do it. But the fact that we as American people are just tribal from onset, we form opinions without information, that's exceptionally distressing. And as a culture, as a society, I hate to use this term because it's just so repulsive, but we kind of. We do kind of need to do better, guys, if we want to live in a country where we feel safe and. And we can coexist, this kind of ignorance is not okay. But let's jump right in. So a lot happened at the State of the Union, but the biggest moment, arguably, is this one right here.
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Political Commentator
If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not American illegal aliens.
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Jillian Michaels
So half the room doesn't stand up. The half that did not stand up, Democrats. And then Trump. Trump went on throughout the State of the Union to bring up the very obvious 80, 20 issues. So there was one issue about transing children without parental consent. Gotta stop this. Gotta ban this. No Democrat stood up. I mean, it's just. It's insane talking about literally letting a guy out of prison. I think it was 10 or 12 times. The guy who murdered Irina Zarutska and her mother is sitting. Stand. Standing up, sobbing. And nobody on the Democratic side stands up. And a lot of people think this is a trap. You know, we've seen a lot of different pundits and commentators talking about the fact that he set the Democrats up and they fell for it. And Trump points it out, right? He's like, I can't believe you guys aren't standing up. These people are crazy. Look at them. They won't stand up for Americans. They won't stand up for, you know, the. The. The mother, the parents of. Of. Of their murdered child. And I gotta admit, you are sitting at home thinking, oh, my God, stand up. Stand up. Like, this is not the moment. And what it illustrated to me is just, you know, hey, we resist. That's what we do. That's what the Democrats do. Our whole position is resist. There's no desire to find common ground. No, I'm. It's not to say. Listen, it is not to say that if the shoe were on the other foot, maybe the Republicans would not stand up. Maybe they wouldn't, you know, and if that happens, I promise you, if the day comes where that happens, I will call that out in the exact same way. But I find it exceptionally infuriating. And I'm on board with the whole idea that Trump set them up. And they fell for it. And Stephen A. Smith said, he goes, he's been beating you guys for 11 years. Years. And you play right into his hands. And you're never going to learn. And you're not. You're never going to learn. It doesn't play well. They're called 8020 issues for a reason, because 80% of the country thinks that transing children without parental consent is bat. It's a losing position. Okay? Period. It is a losing position. Now, let's see. Another thing I wanted to address here. He talks about the fact that we need to put American citizens first before illegal aliens. Now, before I use that term today, I almost said undocumented migrants. Immigrants. Undocumented immigrants, because it's gentler and it's less offensive. And I thought, why be offensive? You know, why be abrasive for the sake of being abrasive? And then I paused and I thought, hold on a second. I'm not dumb. I understand the power of language. In fact, Anthony Robbins talks about it. It's called nlp. This technique of linguistic programming and language has a very powerful impact on what people think and believe, and what they think and believe ends up becoming what they act upon. Right. And you're seeing a lot of that, all of this rhetoric of Nazis and fascists and Gestapo and attack and put your body on the line coming out of. I think it was Minneapolis. I think a lieutenant governor told citizens to put their body on the line and fight ice, which they actually did. So the reason that I decided to stay with illegal alien is because that is the formal language. Alien is Latin for foreign. It does not mean you are not human. It means you are foreign. And illegal means you broke the law and you came into the country illegally. It. It is a crime. I don't know if any of you saw. There was a clip that went viral a little while back of Don Lemon on the streets. God bless Don Lemon. Trying to tell people that it wasn't a crime to come into the country illegally. And it is a crime. It is a misdemeanor, which is a lesser crime than a felony, but it is, in fact, a crime. And of course, the people he was talking to on the streets were like, I don't think. I don't think you're right on this one. Not a crime.
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Legal or Policy Expert
No, it's not a criminal act. It's a misdemeanor.
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Jillian Michaels
So why are they being sent back and saying that they're breaking the law?
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Legal or Policy Expert
That's the point.
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Political Analyst or Commentator
Okay?
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Jillian Michaels
As somebody that we don't know if
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Legal or Policy Expert
they're breaking the law, because they won't tell. There's no due process. Where's the evidence? That's the whole point. And if they are breaking the law, most people will say, okay, then they need to go if they're criminals. But if they're not, why are they being rounded up and sent out? Especially when he promised to. To deport court the criminals, and now he's not doing that.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, I don't think we're going.
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Sponsor or Advertisement Voice
So misdemeanor is not a criminal act.
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Legal or Policy Expert
No, if you get charged with a misdemeanor, that's not a criminal charge at all.
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Jillian Michaels
Then if it's not a criminal act
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Legal or Policy Expert
because we have different levels of crime, everything is not the same.
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Jillian Michaels
So it is crime.
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Legal or Policy Expert
We have different levels of. I shouldn't say crime, but it's not. It's not. You're not. It's not a crime. You're not breaking the law. Mean you are breaking the law, but it's not a criminal act. Breaking the law, but you're not breaking the law.
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Jillian Michaels
No, if you're speeding, drinking, get pulled
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Legal or Policy Expert
over, dui, that's not a criminal act. Well, no, if you're speeding is a misdemeanor.
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Jillian Michaels
It's a misdemeanor. So still breaking the law.
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Legal or Policy Expert
Okay, well, if you want to, if you want to qualify that, we're doing semantics.
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Jillian Michaels
And of course they were right and he was wrong. It is a crime. Now, one of the criticisms that, that we saw from Hakeem Jeffries is that Trump is xenophobic.
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Political Analyst or Commentator
I was just saying the xenophobic rhetoric of Donald Trump, you know, directed at two members of the House Democratic Caucus, of course, is sadly not surprising. But it's disgraceful. It's unpresidential, unpatriotic, and un American. But that's Donald Trump, and that was on full display for the American people yesterday. I mean, he did not help his case. He did not help the case of the Republican sycophants who were just standing up and down like lap dogs. It was embarrassing to see.
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Jillian Michaels
Does not like foreigners. I mean, he specifically went on to say, we like immigrants. We want immigrants in this country. He's actually said that repeatedly for quite some time. We want them to come in legally now, whether you believe him or not. And you're like, oh, come on. I don't buy it. He had chance to get a chance to change the laws and pass immigration reform, and he blocked that bill that would have passed a sweeping immigration reform when he was running for president. You Know what? Maybe there were a lot of things in that bill I know that Republicans did not want. But, but, but maybe, maybe you're right, maybe he does not actually want immigration reform. But nevertheless, nevertheless, we are still a country of laws. And what I am for personally, and what I think the vast majority of Americans are for would be people coming into the country, absolutely loving America, assimilating here and doing so legally. My God. He talked about a woman who was, whose mother found her, she was stabbed in the bathtub, I think he said 25 times by a person who was here in the country illegally. And the reality is that if you close the border and you vet people, those murders and those are going to go down. And a lot of us are for that now went on. And you, of course, saw Rashida Tlaib wearing a button that said ICE on national television. I just thought, like, oh my God, really? Even just the language was just. It's so, it's just so inappropriate and unbecoming of a person who holds public office. But then Ilhan Omar starts screaming, I think we have that clip. Maybe we should play it.
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Political Commentator
That is why I'm also asking you to end deadly sanctuary cities that protect the criminals and enact serious penalties for public affairs officials who blocked the removal of criminal aliens, in many cases, drug lords, murderers all over our country. They're blocking the removal of these people out of our country. And you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Jillian Michaels
And they did exactly what Trump wanted, exactly what he wanted. He took straight to Tooth Social and he posted this. When you watch low iq, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib as they screamed uncontrollably last night at the very elegant State of the Union. Such an important and beautiful event. They had the bulging bloodshot eyes of crazy people, lunatics, mentally deranged and sick who frankly look like they should be institutionalized. When people can behave like that and knowing that they are crooked and corrupt politicians so bad for our country, we should send them back to where they came from as fast as possible. And of course he goes on, but here, here's the bottom line. I, I don't like that kind of behavior, as I mentioned, on either side. And I will call it out where I see it, when. And I think I've been a pretty honest actor. So much so that a lot of you get disappointed with me when I call out the right. It's like, oh, well, Jillian, you know, you should have looked into that further. Or whose side are you on? I, I'm not on anyone's side. I I'm on the principled side. I'm not on the political side. I'm on the good against evil side that I'm, I'm on the fight bad ideas side and unraveling at the State of the Union and acting as though this is not a chaos that is being funded in the streets by radical actors and encouraged by Democratic politicians. Saying that federal law enforcement officers who are enforcing laws enacted by Congress are the secret police is an insane lie. Now take a look at this. Here's a fool who said the quiet part out loud. From Brooklyn, New York, we have a diaspora that, that can absorb a significant number of these migrants. And when I hear colleagues talk about the doors of the end being closed, no room in the end, I'm saying I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. And those members could clearly fit here.
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Producer Michael
What a surprise.
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Jillian Michaels
You know, this is everything that we've been saying is the 180 of Democrats to go from, you know, hey, we're a country of laws. You can't come into the country illegally. This undercuts the American working class so overruns the infrastructure. All the things the one idiot nobody can, nobody can wrap their head around. Of course, the only thing that we can come up with is they must be trying to game the apportionment map. When you look at how many people left the state of California, I believe the numbers are 1 1/2 million American citizens have left California. Oh, I'm gonna get this time frame wrong. Fact check me, team. If I get this wrong, but I believe it was in like the last four or five years. Can you give me an idea how many people California lost in, let's just say 2024.
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Producer Michael
In 2024, the state lost roughly over 600,000 people to other states, with top destinations being Texas, Arizona and Nevada.
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Jillian Michaels
Right. Okay. And can you guys also look into, see if you can find this for me? Like how, how many seats does that represent in Congress? Like if you lose 600,000, if you lose a million, like one seed is how many people? Is there a way to figure that out?
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Producer Michael
So by 2030, projections says that California could lose possibly five seats.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Producer Michael
Population, it's a freaking lot.
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Jillian Michaels
Already lost one to two seats. Good grief. Okay. And that's, that's an existential threat, especially at the pace that it's been continuing to go by. So I think that says a lot right there. And anybody who, who dares to explore the topic kind of always ends up at this conclusion. And now this freaking fool said it out loud, which is just blows my mind. I want to talk about some of the broader points of the speech though, so, so let's look at. I'll be honest with you. Newsom, of course took to, took to X and said that was boring. I didn't find it boring. And I want so badly to just not, not be moved by these things. I want to have these moments where I'm like, yeah, I was slow and I was bored and I was this and I was that. I was moved. We can talk about policy and stuff like health care and I've been very critical of the Trump administration where I think that it is necessary
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Jillian Michaels
I've talked about my extreme disappointment in the fact that the administration gave companies like Bayer, who owns Monsanto and makes glyphosate, which is a an herbicide sprayed on our food, just recently gave them through an executive order, blanket immunity. And we know this causes cancer and a host of other very nasty health conditions. I'm not happy about that. You know, I've been very vocal about things that the administration does I don't like. But I'll tell you that over the course, it was long hour and a half or however long it was over the course of his speech, I was pretty moved and the look back was impressive. So let's go over it for a second here. First, you've got Gaza. Now, I know we didn't lead with that, but I want to lead with that. You have a ceasefire in Gaza. Nobody thought that that was going to be. Nobody thought that was going to be possible. And it's holding And Trump talked about, listen, I'm, I am absolutely anti Hamas, but he talked about the fact that you actually had Hamas and the IDF digging through the rubble to find the bodies of the Israeli hostages together. And for some reason, you know, I visualize that in my mind. It made me deeply emotional. I thought, that's just, it's incredible. It's incredible. It is, it's incredible. So I'm super pissed about the glyphosate, but that's incredible. Then he brought out Enrique. The gentleman's name was Enrique Marquez. It was a political prisoner in Venezuela. And he was jailed by Maduro when I believe he ran against him. And he reunited him with his niece right there in the middle of the State of the Union. She's crying and Enrique is crying. Now I'm at home, I'm crying. And it's not obviously about this gentleman, even though that was a very emotional reunion. It's about the fact that you extracted this frickin evil, evil dictator and we didn't lose one American life. And then he's like, oh, we're about to get all this oil from Venezuela and government's cooperating. We didn't have a regime change, no war that went on for decades and decades and decades. The military industrial complex did not get rich. This was not a manipulation of, of policy. It was honestly so far, genius. It was genius. I was, I, I'm sorry, I wanted to be skeptical. I was skeptical. I had Mike Baker on. We were both appropriately skeptical. And we're going to let it out. We're gonna see how it goes. So far, so good, team. So far, so good. Then he starts talking about the price of gas. It is the lowest that it's been in four years. And he starts talking about the markets, and they are the highest that they've ever been. Is stuff still expensive? Yes, it is. And there, there are several reasons for this, and I'm not gonna give Trump a total pass, but the reality is that a lot of these companies that were able to charge more for the longest time are like, we're not gonna start charging less even though we pay less for gas. Why would we start charging less? When they say inflation is at its lowest, that means that prices are still growing just at a much slower rate. I think right now inflation is somewhere between 2 and 3%. Under Biden, it spiked all the way up to 17%. The tariffs that I know, the Supreme Court just struck these down, which I'm kind of disappointed about. And here's why. I started out exceptionally skeptical I had Bill O'Reilly on the show, I had Sean Hannity on the show. And they said, listen, you know, could we tweak the strategy? Maybe, you know, is this going to work? We don't know yet. We gotta wait and see. Well, here's what we know. It didn't crash the economy. Trump's tariffs did not crash the economy, guys. Did not happen. And Trump went on to say, you know, I'm hoping that we can use these tariffs to replace income tax. Now, I don't know, maybe he's bullshitting us. It's, it's possible, but he did get rid of tax on tips. He did get rid of tax on overtime. He is delivering on those promises. Yes, Rich people also got a tax cut. They did. I'm not an economist. I can't tell you if that's good or that's bad. I know that Reagan did it. I can't weigh in on it. I don't know yet. I'll see. But he has delivered on his promises. And he was also very clear, very clear that he used tariffs as a negotiating strategy. Now, you can say that's dangerous, that's wildly irresponsible. He should never be doing that. But here we are now, over a year later, and it appears to be working. Every time I want to jump down this guy's throat. Greenland, right? We just, we just had Bill O'Reilly on, who was saying, I told the President, don't make me, you know, join the Greenland army. But the reality is we didn't go to war with Greenland. He flexed his muscles and he, Trump, beat his chest and now we're making a deal on Greenland. So I don't know. I'm not unhappy about that. I'm not, I'm not unhappy about it. I'm actually kinda happy about it. And I didn't love the fact that, like, we're, we're paying into NATO, we're paying for protection for Greenland. Why is China over there getting to mine for all their rare earth minerals? I don't love that, actually, now that I think about it. And if you've got bullies all over the world flexing their muscle in Venezuela or in Iran, personally, I kind of want to be there. Let's talk about Iran for a second. High blood pressure is the number one risk factor for mortality. And, and one in two adults has it, so that means there's a 50, 50 chance. You are a walking time bomb. 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So whether you agree or whether you disagree, he has been consistent on this position. Now, I appreciate, and we've talked a lot about this on the show, the concept of America first. Is it America first to invest the energy and the money into our infrastructure here, Schools, roads? Maybe. But does it become a significant problem if Iran ever has nuclear power? Yeah. Is it in our best interests if we can do this without having boots on the ground in a conflict that goes on for years to edge out Russia and China, to take away that crutch for them when it comes to oil and our sanctions can be more impactful. Sure. It sure fricking seems like it. Iran, they're the number one funders of terror. Putting that down would be awesome. Defanging them would be tremendous, and hopefully it would help expand the Abraham Accords and expand peace across the Middle East. We know Saudi does not love Iran. It is not just Israel that does not love Iran, and obviously not the people, but the government. So I thought that was pretty freaking interesting. Um, and then there were just some incredibly heartfelt moments that made me proud to be an American. The hockey team. Let's talk about this for a second. These kids, both the boys and the girls, won the gold for America. Neither team said anything anti American. It's wrong that we put our athletes in a position to have to comment on this. I love the fact that Jack Hughes said from the men's hockey team, like, we're athletes, we're not political. We're proud to be American. We're proud to play for America. And I saw so much pushback on social media from people on the, on the far left suggesting that they should not have let Cash Patel into the locker room seriously. Or they shouldn't have taken a call from the leader of the free world. If Gavin Newsom became president, and for some reason he called me to congratulate me, I would take the call. If Gavin Newsom said, I'd like to invite you to the White House, I appreciate whatever success you had on behalf of our country and I think we can come together on this, I would show up. Anybody should show up. It is outrageous to ask them not to show up. And it is entirely un American. I was literally touched when these kids, these young boys and girls, took the flag, skated around the rink, kissed their gold medal, stood on the podium, sang our national anthem. I'm not ashamed to be American. It is wrong to be ashamed to be American. And anybody who is should spend a week in Iran. Let us know how it goes. Moving on from that, you had centenarians there who fought in World War II. You had the member of the military, I believe the National Guard, who was shot in Washington by the Afghani immigrant who was in fact here legally in the audience. And I believe his counterpart died, the woman who was shot with him died. And I'm just, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking like, these are all the stories we followed over the course of the last year. These are my fellow Americans. This is what they've been through. I tracked their stories. I'm seeing them here now. I'm seeing them come through the other side. I'm sharing this country in this moment with them. And I was so proud of that. I was so moved by that, I'll be honest. And then the pilot, oh my God, who flew the frickin helicopter to land our guys on the ground to go get Maduro, who shot numerous times and there's blood pouring down the frickin helicopter as he's trying to land it and save all of our guys. And it's like he comes out at the State of the Union on crutches and they give him the medal of Honor. I was weeping. I'm sorry. I was weeping. I was weeping. And afterwards, listen, you had some Democrats come out with honest criticism of his policies. Kamala Harris came out and criticized his policies on health care. And I thought, like, you know, I don't know, let me look into this. I, I, maybe she's right about that. I, I don't know. Health care is a huge problem, and both parties have shit the bet on it. Unquestionably, it's an issue. I'm not gonna poo poo her if you're gonna, if you're gonna complain about one of his policies, I'm gonna take my time to look into what you're saying, and I haven't yet, so shame on me. But I'm saying maybe it's legitimate, but the rest of it is just theater. It's all just theater. It's resist to resist. And I'm trying to tell Democrats this is a losing proposition. And last but not least, JD Vance has been tasked with running a war on fraud. Well, fraud's a problem. We now know this. Billions of dollars are being siphoned out of our country through fraud in red states and blue states. This has been established. But, yes, we're seeing it more in California and Minneapolis. But Dr. Oz himself just came on and said that there's fraud happening in Florida, and Governor DeSantis is cooperating. Healthcare fraud there. Okay, this is a problem. It's billions and billions, billions of dollars. It's been acknowledged as a problem by, in Minneapolis by both a Democratic mayor and a Democratic governor, and yet you've got Ilhan Omar screaming and yelling when Trump says this, and, you know, who knows, calling him a murderer. I don't know what the hell. Just unhinged rant. And the New York Times turns around and says, oh, you know, quite a, Quite a quote, lofty goal from a fraudster himself. And I thought, okay, first of all, whether or not Trump committed fraud, and he was, in fact committed, convicted of fraud in a civil case, I'll get to that in just a second. What does that have to do with the country having billions of dollars siphoned off out of fraud and some of it sent to terror groups back in Somalia, like Al Shabaab? What does that have to do with anything? How about just. Yeah, that's a problem. Let's see if J.D. vance can tackle. Oof. I wonder if that's gonna help him or hurt him in 28. That. That. That's the question we should be asking. How do we be helpful here? How can we all cooperate and figure this out? This is a nonpartisan issue. But instead, oh, Trump's a Fraudster. Well, first of all, they went after Trump for fraud because they claimed that he inflated his net worth. And supposedly he did so. He was convicted. So let's say he did so to get better interest rates on bank loans. He paid all the bank loans off, though. Nobody was hurt. So you can say, okay, you can't do it. No problem. You can't do it. You went after him, you find him, he paid the fine. You can't do it. There's no moral equivalence to those two things. And Trump and his fraud does not negate the billions of dollars. It's like everything is deny, deny, deny, resist, resist, resist. And people are just too smart for that. That's why no one reads the New York Times anymore. That is why shit like this. That's why. But let's move on. We've, we've, we've covered this one. A new study, this is interesting. Just found that white liberals down code themselves. I didn't know this was a term when they're speaking to their counterparts of color. So take a look at this headline here. So quite literally, this isn't Yale Insights. White liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans. A new study suggests that white liberals who hold liberal sociopolitical views use language that makes them appear less competent in an effort to get along with racial minorities. Now, the reason that I think this is relevant to bring up at the moment is first because of what we've seen with the SAVE act, which, you know, is the legislation that would require voter ID ID to vote, which, yes, Trump also did bring that up in the State of the Union and many white liberals. There's actually a great video that Prageru put out where they're talking to white liberals on the street about whether or not voter ID should be required. And they all go on this, this rant about how people of color just probably might not be able to figure out how to get a voter id, might not be able to figure out how to use a computer or get to the dmv. Can't. Oh, geez. And they've got, you know, this empathy for black people who can't figure out how to get identification.
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Producer Fletcher
Opinion on voter ID laws?
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, they're usually pretty racist and they're bad. I think voter ID laws are a way to perpetuate racism.
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Producer Fletcher
Do you think it suppresses the African American vote?
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Jillian Michaels
Definitely.
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Guest or Contributor
Because they're less likely to have state IDs.
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Producer Fletcher
You can always get IDs. You do over the Internet. Does that also make it difficult for black People in particular.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, you have to have access to the Internet.
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Guest or Contributor
You have to be able to pay
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Jillian Michaels
an Internet service provider for certain fees.
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Producer Fletcher
Do you think that's harder for black
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Jillian Michaels
people to go online? Well, I feel like they don't have the knowledge of how it works.
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Producer Fletcher
Now I'm here in eastern East Harlem to ask black people their thoughts on what you just heard. Do you carry id?
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Jillian Michaels
Yes, I do.
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Producer Fletcher
Do you know anybody who, any black person doesn't carry id?
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Guest or Contributor
No.
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Jillian Michaels
Why would they think we don't have id? That's a lie. Why would they say that?
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Producer Fletcher
Do you have id?
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Jillian Michaels
Yes. Everybody that I know have id. Like that's one of the things you need to walk around with New York with.
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Producer Fletcher
Do you have a problem if, when you go to vote, if they say, could we please your site see your ID to make sure you are who's you are? Do you have an issue with that?
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Political Analyst or Commentator
No.
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Jillian Michaels
And then Gavin Newsome famously on his book tour makes these statements this week. Take a look.
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Gavin Newsom
I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960sat guy. And, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone. You know, trying to act all there if you got 940. But literally a 960 SAT guy. I cannot. You've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech. Maybe the wrong business to be in.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay, we're going to keep going though. We're just going to do this in swift succession. Can you guys Please pull up Sat 16?
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Gavin Newsom
You've written a hell of a book. And I don't say that lightly. I went through it in a quick hour and a half, almost two hours, and trust me, I don't read very fast, but it reads at an unbelievable pace. It's so well written and of course it's so familiar because I fell a little bit. It does read so much of the subject matter, but it's 18 chapters. It's an impressive piece of work. 263 or so pages that he read
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Jillian Michaels
in an hour and a half. He read 263 pages in an hour and a half. But he doesn't read. Huh. Not only that, did you know that the national SAT average is actually 1030? But whether or not he is, you know, insinuating that people of color are dumb, because that's. I'll give it to you that that could be debatable. You know, there Were white people in the audience? Maybe. I think he just thinks all us are dumb. I don't think that he actually was just directing that to black people. I think when he lies to us constantly and people still believe him, you can see why he would think, you know, that we were dumb. Let's. Let's keep looking at this, though, because he loves to also discuss that he was poor.
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Gavin Newsom
Walking home. Got home early. My mom was always working, so, you know, I'm cooking. Literally lived on Stouffer's lasagna, macaroni and cheese. I got finished, you know, two pots of macaroni and cheese and got bored.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay. Poor Gavin. Is he poor? Let's see. Can we play SOT17? Could be both. You have a hard work and grind, and you had doors open.
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Gavin Newsom
Yeah. Oh, no. And that's.
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Jillian Michaels
I mean, it's not just the Gettys.
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Political Analyst or Commentator
Your.
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Jillian Michaels
Your grandfather and your father were both very connected in San Francisco.
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Gavin Newsom
I am. I'm here because of all of them and their shoulders and 100%. And it's. And it was those two. So all those doors, all the privileges of those relationships, remarkable gifts, and they're deeply mined and discussed there and then again with a work ethic from my mom. And so it was both. And.
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Political Commentator
And so I was comfortable and.
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Gavin Newsom
And uncomfortable in so many ways in both worlds. And I just navigated back and forth. If I was on a vacation. And we describe a number of interesting vacations overseas with my father and the family. These adventures, my mom was back home weren't just adventures.
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Jillian Michaels
You went on safaris. You took pictures from helicopters. Partying with Jack Nicholson.
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Gavin Newsom
Yeah, yeah, that's. I mean, we described that in there. It was also about paying the bills, man. Yeah, it was just like hustling and. And so I was out there kind of raising myself, turning on the tv. Started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with the, you know, the wonder bread and five stacks of the whites. Come on, macaroni and cheese.
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Jillian Michaels
Are you talking about me? Young yg.
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Political Commentator
Yg, man.
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Gavin Newsom
Every day. Every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is just, like, fraying, man, and you're yourself. That's it. Whole thing.
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Jillian Michaels
There's the code. Switching the ball's just like, frame, man. That's it. Yeah, bro. This guy is a sociopath. He wants you to think that he was poor because it's relatable. He'll tell you he was poor. If he wants you to think that he was privileged, he'll Tell you he was privileged and has a tremendous pedigree. If he wants you to think that he's black, he'll code switch the way that he speaks. On one hand, he's partying with Jack Nicholson, and then he's simultaneously alone eating Stouffers. The guy is a sociopath. He was never poor, not even close. In fact, he was exceptionally wealthy. Why don't we take a look at this? Graphic 3 so this is a picture of young Newsom in 1991 in an article in the San Francisco Chronicle called Children of the Rich. Okay, one more, one more. By the way, shout out to Dan and Bash for doing some journalism on cnn. Miracles happen. One more, guys. Graphic six. Oh, my God. Rich and reading. There is Gavin best dressed Gavin Rich and reading as a young high schooler. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. But just in case you were still wondering whether or not this guy was a Douchebag, let's play SOT 13.
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Gavin Newsom
And, and, and, and for those that don't know Willie Brown, you wouldn't know Kamala Harris without Willie Brown.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, so here's what he did there. Willie Brown was big politician in California, was mayor of San Francisco. He did date Kamala Harris. He did appoint her to two different boards, but she was elected as attorney general. She was elected as vice president. She was elected to every other position she had held. And what he's trying to do here is he's trying to tell you she slept her way to the top. That's, that's basically what he's implying is like, if it wasn't for Willie Brown, she never would have gotten anywhere. You wouldn't know her, you know, but she, she slept with this guy and that's how she got the gig. Because he didn't get the party's nomination and he's pissed about it. She writes about it in her book, actually. She said she reached out to him when she was running for support and he wrote hiking in his text and never responded. So have a, a listen. I'm not a Kamala Harris fan, but we've got an accomplished, educated woman of color here, Gavin. And instead of acknowledging that, you turn around and say she slept her way to the top. That that is what you're saying, Correct? This coming from a guy, by the way, who slept with his best friend's wife and also the dumb one who got a 960 on his SAT who only succeeded because of his rich parents and the Gettys giving him a leg up. I don't know. I can't think of anything more hypocritical than that. Call me crazy. There's one more Gavin clip I do want to show you. This one's important. Sought 18, you said, just to remind people while talking about your experience, you said, I'm like you. I'm a 960sat guy. Right wingers and on Twitter and Fox News hosts and some even Republican elected officials have said that's racist. I mean, what goes through your head when you saw that commentary sort of building and bubbling?
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Gavin Newsom
Well, they didn't say it when I talked to Charlie Kirk and said the exact same thing thing or the dozens and dozens of other occasions where I said exactly the same thing. It was a hell of a statement, particularly from people that have been countenanced racism in their party for decades. The same pundits, Sean Hannity, let's call them out by name that didn't say one word. Still haven't said a word about the racist videos were put out about Michelle Obama and Barack Obama. Nothing, not one word of condemnation of President of the United States that put out those racist videos or shit. All countries or the birther issues. Not a word said. We're offended by someone who writes a book about learning disabilities and struggles academically and then expresses them in a mixed audience and somehow accuses that person of patronizing or somehow demeaning or being racist himself. That's a hell of a statement of the weaponization and the propaganda, the network, this machine that these folks have.
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Jillian Michaels
All right. You're probably wondering why I showed that to you. Well, I should show you his answer to it because that is the responsible thing to do. And you can decide for yourself what you think. But here's what I took away from that. This is why I get frustrated when Trump gets down in the dirt with these people. And I know, I know people think it's funny and I know that they think it's deserved. But the tit for tat allows Newsom to evade responsibility, flip the script and point the finger. And I don't want to give them those talking points. And I'll be honest, I didn't like the frickin meme of the Obamas as monkeys. I think it's gross. I know that Trump said he didn't know about was tacked on to some other video that was at the end of what had been clipped for his social. But the reality is this is the the leader of the free world. This is his social media account. I would argue maybe billions of people are looking at this and you gotta be more responsible if that Is in fact the case. And if it's not, it's gross. Don't do it. I think that we do have to kind of police ourselves in order to have the upper hand in the moral high ground and to make the stronger arguments. So I. I get it. I read your comments. I appreciate all of them. I. I do. But these are the reasons that I try to stay as authentic and honest as I can. I'm clearly partisan. Clearly partisan. I love the State of the Union. I'm clearly partisan. I don't know what to tell you. Um, but I. I try to do my homework, and I try to be honest. I try to wait things out. I try to. I. I try as hard as I possibly can. So that's the last on Newsom. I want to leave you with something fun this week. I think it's fun. I don't know if it's fun. It. It's. You decide for yourself. Here's Joe Rogan talking about Jeffrey Epstein's prostate. This is SOT 19.
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Guest or Contributor
The advantage of taking testosterone. There are two different things. You can have high testosterone and still have a need for Viagra because you don't have a prostate. Right. And then Epstein says, correct. And then at the bottom, they show another document. Hold on, let me keep going there. So that's an extreme example. I was actually going to try and move up one level. Sort of drug enhancing life. If you don't mind it. He doesn't mind it. I'm sort of outer space thinking, oh, so he's trying to juice up. So he's saying, I'm moving up one level of sort of drug enhancing life. I don't know what I think he means. He's gonna start juicing. That's what it sounds like. So he doesn't have it doesn't have a prostate.
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Jillian Michaels
It says, wait for it.
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Guest or Contributor
That says something about it.
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Jillian Michaels
We're going somewhere. A radical prostatectomy.
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Guest or Contributor
Prostatectomy.
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Jillian Michaels
So when they take out your prostate. But that doesn't necessarily say he is.
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Guest or Contributor
I think it's a document. But he said he doesn't have a prostate. And it says patient Jeffrey Epstein. It says, according to the American Urological association, serum PSA should decrease and remain at undetectable levels after radical prostitutes. Prostectomy. There's other documents where prostomy. Contacting doctors that specialize in that very thing. Okay. So the doctor saying he had a radical prostomy. He's saying he does not have a prostate. But yet the body from the autopsy. And so talks about the prostate is slightly and diffusedly enlarged.
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Jillian Michaels
He's alive. You get. I. You. I knew it. This son of a. Is alive. I'm sorry. He is alive. Doesn't have prostate. The dead body has a. Has a. Has an enlarged prostate. Now, I. I didn't just show you that so that you could see Joe Rogan talking about Jeffrey Epstein's genitals, which was entertaining. I'm not gonna lie. I can't. I just can't. I can't. He's alive somewhere, and the prostate is proof. I just can't. Thank you so much for watching. If you enjoyed the podcast, please, like, comment, subscribe, and share. And make sure to let me know what guests you want to see on in the future.