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Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
Tommy Robinson’s Chilling Warning to America & The Elon Musk Alliance
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Today's guest might be one of the most controversial figures in the Western world. Tommy Robinson has been called to everything from a free speech dissident to a dangerous agitator. Now, supporters say that he's exposed grooming gang scandals that the British establishment has tried to bury. Critics say he fuels anti Muslim sentiment and far right politics. His rallies have drawn massive crowds and massive protests. He's been arrested, banned from social media, removed from banks, and at times effectively erased from the digital public square until voices like Elon Musk stepped in. Now, Robinson says he's sounding the alarm for America about mass immigration and cultural conflict in Europe and what he believes happens when governments suppress debate. So is he exposing uncomfortable truths the media won't touch or spreading division that makes the problem worse? Bigots or patriot? Decide for yourself. Here we go. Keeping It Real with Jillian Michaels. Tommy Robinson, welcome to America. How does that feel?
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Feels great. Long time coming. I've wanted to come for years.
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So is this the first time that you've been here?
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No, I was here. I got refused entry in 2009, so I'd been three times prior to that. But once I started opening my mouth and exercising my free speech in the uk, I wasn't allowed into America after that.
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That was Obama administration.
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Obama administration. I come for the September 11th is when I wall visit for what I wanted to visit for. But I've been embedded, I guess, in American politics. I've been following American politics, commenting on American politics for as long as I can remember. So I've been heavily interested in them. And I've got to come here now. I've met Roger Stone, I've met General Flynn, I've been to see Lara Logan, lots of different people. And I've always wanted to visit America. So I'm blessed to be here.
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Are you here permanently?
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No, no, I'm here as a, I'm here working. I'm here as a journalist. I'm here to A, ask questions, but B, give a warning to America. I wish when I come here, I actually give a speech in New York 16 years ago called A Warning to America. And at that time I wish someone come to my hometown or my country and told me 30 or 40 years ago, this is what's going to happen. This is how it's going to happen. So I'm not. I don't. I come with a warning not of what I've read, but what I've lived. When I was born in 1982, my hometown had one mosque. We now have 45 white English like myself, we're a minority. So there's huge problems in the uk Obviously not from every Muslim, because some of the best people I've met growing up in my hometown are Muslim. But there's a big problem and that big problem. Your borders have been opened by Joe Biden. The seed has been planted and you're going to experience exactly the same as what I've experienced. So.
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So give me this warning first and then I want to talk about that percentage because there's a lot of pushback on. Oh, it's just a small percentage. Just 1%. It's just 6%. It's just a tiny percentage. But. But first, let's start with the warning. What is that warning?
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The warning is what I've experienced, what we've experienced in the UK with open border, mass immigration, and then the problems that come from it. So, as I said, I'm from a town called luton town. It's 30 miles north of London. What I witnessed growing up was segregation, non assimilation, non integration. So the town is divided. It's divided via religious lines. Not racial lines, religious lines. When I went to school, you had the Muslim playground and the non Muslim playground. We didn't create that. So everyone. I was brought up, my mum was an immigrant to the uk. She come from Ireland. But most of my friends are sons of immigrants. Luton Town is one of the most diverse towns in Europe. It's also named by the CIA as the epicenter of terrorist activities for Europe. That's Luton Town. That's where I've been born. So problems that were far away. When you think of terrorism or you think of jihad or you think of all these things, they weren't far away. When I was growing up, I knew kids I went to school with that went to fight for ISIS friends I grew up with who ended up in jail becoming members of isis. When we talk about terrorism and jihad, we literally have to share our town center with them. So that's my upbringing. I was. There's an issue now. Have you heard of grooming gangs?
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Yes, but I would like for you to talk about that from start to finish, as though I never have for the audience.
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When I was 13 or 14 years old, my cousin was a similar age and she woke up with bearded men in a house in the Muslim community where she was being g. Now she run from the house, her f. The streets, then rang her father. Her father went down and got. I can remember the fallout, the family fallout, the discussions, but the police would do nothing. Now these things are going to sound Unbelievable. To an audience. You have to really go down the rabbit hole on what was allowed to happen in our country. In our country. Across every town and city, there was conspiracy of silence of political leaders, religious leaders. Every institution whose job it was to protect children failed. The. They allowed a generation of Britain's daughters to be graped. Sorry, no, no. They allowed a generation of Britain's daughters to come under. Speak really to be kidnapped, tortured. And across the whole of the uk now, my cousin was one of these victims. But so growing up in, in Luton, I'd seen this. How many girls I went to school with whose parents just. They went missing. The girls were gone. The girls were gone, disappeared. So I'd seen this growing up my whole life. I'd seen the Islamic community act in a way where the authorities, the government, the police just didn't deal with the crimes. They just did not. They just were allowed. And it wasn't like I always, I use the term that it was iron fists for the black and white community, but kid gloves for the Islamic community. They just. There was no level playing field in how we were treated. And now these terminologies of two tier policing, they've become part of British vocabulary now. Everyone understands this problem. But I saw it very early on and I spoke about it very early on. My first ever time of talking about these, talking about this issue. I organized my first protest in 2004.
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Wow.
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I was a young man. Yeah, 2004, I called it back.
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This is happening in 2004.
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No, this has been happening since the 60s and 70s in the UK. Since the start. It's been covered up.
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I did not know that.
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No, it's, it's.
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Actually, I had no idea.
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We, we heard about it once. So I'll give you the back. So 2004, I organized a organization, a demonstration. I was a young man and I called it Ban the loot and Taliban. Now, this was after. Do you remember the Beslam school massacre?
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No.
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No. So the Besam school massacre was, you know, everyone has a moment that opens their eyes.
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Yeah.
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And once your eyes are open, it's hard to close them if you realize the danger and the threat. So Besam school massacre was. And this is coming, it's coming to America. It's coming to. It's going to come to Europe. So a school was taken over by Chechnyan jihadists. And it was a school full of children. And as they took over the school, the parents would come outside the school. So I can still see it now. So I visually see It. And as they started massacring the children inside the school, Russian children, then the parents are dropping to their knees, there's nothing they could do. So I'll just think about that. Imagine being outside a kid's school, your kids are inside the school. You know, jihadists have took over the school. But for me it wasn't that. So for me, I was trying to understand this isn't one mad man here. This is a large group of men that are coming together and believe this behavior is acceptable. Like they've kidnapped kids and they're butchering them in school. So I just at that point started looking to understand who these men were, what was the mindset, what is, what is jihad? And as I started looking into it, I found a group of Muslims in a chicken shop in my hometown, given an interview and a video on YouTube at the time saying that an attack like this would be justified in a UK school. So then for me as a young man, I was a young. Luton's a working class town. It's rated the roughest town in Britain. It's a rough town with real problems. I grew up in amongst those problems in that town. Not just the Islamic problems. Luton's a rough town, a very violent town. So I grew up and I saw these group of men and I wanted to know more about. Well, to me I thought, who, who are you? And so then I found out that they're, they were part of a group called Amraj Reddin.
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Oh yeah.
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Do you know who they are?
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Yes.
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So Omar bakri, Abu Hamza. So 6. Just so the audience understands, 60 of terrorists in the UK prisons are ex members of this group. So this group was. And the head office for this group was in my town. So when I started looking, I thought, right, I looked at who they were and then I looked at their literature and, and I went down to the town center on a Saturday, because every Saturday outside Don Miller's, which is a bakery, it's just like a, a national bakery chain. Every Saturday these groups would have big paste tables. They're literally promoting jihad and war against us, which I'm seeing now coming out of many mosques in America. Yeah, they're literally some video shows. Okay. They're literally calling for war. Yeah. So I mean, and the police were there. And I said to the, and I went up to a police officer and said, what is this? And how are they allowed to do this?
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How are they allowed to do it? We're asking the same question, how. But in America.
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Yeah, they're going to Use your constitution against you.
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I know. It's an impossible, impossible situation because on one hand, who decides what's acceptable speech? The minute you start saying, oh well that's not okay. But you could say that. But you can't say that. But, but the one thing I want to ask you though is you're saying in Britain, how are you allowed to do this? We're seeing British people who are complaining about this on social media go to jail. So you don't have the same luxury that we have here. So how are they allowed to do that?
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Well, they're allowed to do whatever they want. So nothing, nothing, nothing was policed against them. So basically they can stand the call. So you're right. 30 people a day arrested in the UK, 12, 000 last year arrested for things they said on social media. It's not Muslims getting arrested for calling for jihad that these laws are brought into police and to silence any criticism of the government's status quo or their narrative or their agenda. Now the government's agenda for 30 years has been to flood our nation. Open border, mass immigration. And then obviously when someone starts talking about the problems from that, they want to censor, destroy and silence that person. Because if the, if the public are allowed to understand the real danger that comes from open border mass immigration from Islamic nations, these are nations that have totally different value systems to us. Like for. If you look at Afghanistan 99, this is Pew Research, 99 of Afghanis want Sharia law.
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Yeah.
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So when you import these people into your country, I've just seen you've got gangs happening now from Afghan and Afghani migrants. I saw a case yesterday in America. But these problems, an Afghani migrant in the UK is 22 times more likely to commit a sexual assault than any other than any than the British is cultural. So it's, it's a total different value system.
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Yeah.
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You open your borders to it. These are the problems that come from it. And if we're, if the public were allowed to realize the dangers and problems that come from it, they'll start looking at the government because it's government failure and policy that's allowed this to happen. And rather than allow this discussion in, in the uk, the tactic has been to crush or silence any criticism whilst they maintain their open border policy.
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Why? I can, I could tell you why in America we think that's happening. It has to do with gaming our apportionment map and seats in Congress and electoral college votes. So you want a bigger population in your state. So famously our governor In California, money. Well, if you have one and a half million citizens leave California and go to Nashville, Austin, Miami. Right. All these other states, he's gonna lose seats in Congress. California loses seats in Congress, which means they're losing power. And California loses votes in the Electoral College. So we don't have. It's not a democracy, it's a republic. So like, your vote kind of counts in that it affects the ways your state's electoral college votes go. So long story short, he replaced those one and a half million with a million people that are not citizens. Because the way it works here is you don't have to be a citizen for that body to count on our census. And that's what allots the seats in Congress and the seats and the Electoral College. But so I could make that case here. That's the theory that Elon Musk, of course, made, who I know has paid your legal bills, which we'll get to. But in the uk, I don't understand what is the logic to open the border?
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They're replacing our population with a loyal vote bank. And when I say a loyal vote bank, you'll understand very soon. In America, they vote in a military fashion. They vote in a military fashion. They vote for who their imam tells them to vote for, but they're going
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to tell them to vote for a person who is not British, I would imagine.
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No, not always, no. No, because the Labor Party that we're sitting, the left, the alliance between the left and this isn't. Look, there's a new left when we say the left. My family are from a generation of labor voters, left wing, working class voters. We're. We're the working class.
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Yep.
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Not anymore. We've been betrayed. We've been sold out. They've destroyed our nation and they've replaced us. And they've replaced us. So again, I'll just bring you back to my hometown to explain why they do this and. And where the future lies for all of us is that in my hometown in 2013, I looked at the projected growth forecast for communities by 2030. So that's a 17 year period. The Bangladeshi and Pakistani community were going to increase by 70 to 77%, the white and black by 1.2 to 1.4. So the local Labor Party know that the future for this town, we become irrelevant. And I've seen what it's like to become irrelevant. It means funding, it means everything. It means that. So say when I started. So fast forward the background of Luton. I started my first protest. I faced a furor of attacks from Islamic gangs. The street gangs align with the radical jihadist groups. Now, I named the street gangs. In 2004, there's a gang in Luton, not very original, but they call themselves the gambinos. They're probably 100 to 200 strong Pakistani mob of drug dealer, heroin dealers, pimps. They. They shoot young children. Like these are the gangs that are behind the grooming. So I made a leaflet and it made front page of my paper. I dug this leaflet up to show it in 2015 when I give a presentation to Oxford University. And I've done it to show that my rhetoric as my voice has never changed. Yeah. So in 2004, what I said is that whites and blacks are being religiously and racially targeted in this town. The police are allowing it to happen. We know which businesses they're using to children. We know the drug shops. Why is nothing being done about it? Why. Why are we treated so we could be victims. And you've seen this, and people across the UK see this in all the videos. We could be a victim of a race crime against us. The police would turn up and we're victim again to the law because they don't deal with them. They're scared of them. They're totally scared of the way they mobilize, the violence they're willing to use. And then the government and the councils just pander the whole time for the block vote. They pander. They literally will not upset the community, the Islamic community. Now, even if you look and I'll draw it back to American America. Somalians have come from the hottest place.
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Knew you were going to say Minneapolis,
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but they come from the hottest place in the world. Why do you think they've ended up in. In Minnesota? No, is it Minnesota? Why have they ended up in one of the coldest parts of the United States? They haven't chose there, they've been put there just so you understand. So these are plantations of new voters who will, when it comes to the birth rate, will far exceed anything you're gonna have. So the population growth will expel, explode like it has across Europe, like it has in every British sea. We have become. 33% of London is now English. 33%. We've lost our capital. Yeah. Paris has gone. To Americans, Paris has gone. It's gone. Okay. Berlin's gone. The major capitals have gone. Now they're not coming back from this cultural change, this total shift in value systems. And then the way that the politics work and it becomes about. It becomes about it. Becomes about where you're from and what you and what religion you are when. When they come to vote. It's not about anything else now. So we've. We've caused such sex Harry and politics in the UK which has been imported imported in Pakistani politics. But these problem. So in 2004 I stood up and in this leaflet I named the gang now actually 3. I show this in Oxford University.
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Surprise, you're alive. I'll be honest.
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Well, they come but three years. But at that time I'm just, I'm very honest. I don't claim to ever been an angel. I'm not an angel sitting here polishing my halo. I was a young lad from a working class background and I, I gravitated as a young man towards a football culture in the UK. So I went football on a Saturday with 200 other young men. We went to football. So when it comes to the terrorists at the time in 2004 it was 200 young English men who were turning up to say, you're not having our town center at the time 2004. Now that resulted in clashes with the terrorists and jihadist groups and the drug gangs who want to take over the town. They've successfully took over the town now. But this is going back to 2004. I made myself a target. Three years later, I show it in my Oxford Union presentation. National newspapers running run a headline story called Chemical Jihad where they allege, which is exactly what I was telling them, that the drug gangs work alongside the terrorist groups and they're using heroism, heroin as a weapon for A funding and B to destroy our communities. Now, I know there were riots in our estates when they were bringing heroin in. They were literally kidnapping people and that the gangs were. And the police crushed the English kids. They crushed us, they crushed our lads on our estate and let them just have full reign. And it's the same with the prison system. But this goes back to 2004. Fast forward to 2009. I've seen all the problems by the time I get to 2009, I'm 25, I'm running two successful companies, I've got a family, I've got seven properties. I'm doing very well as a young man in business and I'd got through all the problems from this. I've moved on with my life. And then that same group attacked us Soldiers homecoming parade. They. I went down on a Tuesday morning. This is the birth of. This was the changing moment of my life because I went, I went down on Tuesday morning to Pay respect for our armed forces as they were given the freedom of the sea. Now our armed forces returning back from Afghanistan or Iraq, but they were. They were the Royal Angry Regiment. Scott. Scott Muntridge was 26. He died fighting that from that regiment. And Michael Swain was 19. We were these lads, we from our estate. He lost his legs. So when people went down to pay respects for their. To their families as they were allowed to walk through the city, I stood and watched as I saw about 30 niqabs together, which is quite a sight in one. In one group.
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30 what?
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Nicar full face coverings. So.
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Oh, okay.
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So many of the Muslim women wear this?
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Yes, fully.
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Right.
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Just the. Your eyes.
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So many.
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I understand.
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So many women. I saw that and then I saw. Because I know the terrorist group. So then I saw their sec. Their leader, second in command of the whole group called Safel Islam. His name is. Which translates a sword of Islam. I saw him, I saw Roger Ibrahim, I saw all these terrorists together. And I saw the police walk them as they opened up my town hall. So my council building. They walked them through and there was a big group of them. And I thought, what. What's happening here? There's so many police around. And then I just heard the commotion and what they'd done is they'd walked them. So as our soldiers walked down the road here, they'd walk them through the town hall, opened the back door and allowed them to confront our soldiers. So as our soldiers were walking past, they were spitting at them. They spat in one of the soldiers mum's faces. They called them butchers of Basra. Baby killers. Now look, have your view on the war. Have your view on the war. Those young men swear allegiance to queen and country. They don't choose the war or the conflict. They go to defend our nation and its values. Now I'm again now I think we've been lied to about many of the wars, but at that time, when I stood there and watched it that day, I'd seen even when the Jewish families which have all left Luton now the actual old synagogue is the main terrorist jihadist mosque. Now it's been raided on terrorism. But that's the old synagogue. I remember when Jews remember in the Holocaust the Jewish family and they had to barricade himself inside the town hall as hundreds of Muslims turned up. I've seen Gaza war protests where they're literally thousands and thousands are coming out chanting kayuba, kyuba. So very early on I learned I know Aliwakbar. No, it's when it so I this, these are the questions I asked very as a younger stuff. So I started looking in and understanding what they're saying. It's when a Jewish tribe surrendered to Muhammad, the prophet Muhammad, false prophet Muhammad. But they, they surrendered and he beheaded 601 of 600 of them in the day. And then he raped the leader of the tribe. He married her that night, Sophia. So if you want to know how Muhammad met his wife Sophia, he slaughtered her whole family. And then that night he married her. So if we think she willingly had sex with him that night, we know what happened. All of these things I do know
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about like the nine year old child bride but it's like, well that's just
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normal for the hear them now. You hear them in New York trying it. Cuba. Cuba.
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I have some stuff to show you from New York actually. Tell me if any of this looks familiar. This is the past week, so the first one, guys, let's do SOT number two. Take a look at this one.
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Kill another soldier now. You make us proud. You make us proud. Kill another soldier now. Kill another. Another soldier now. Al. You make us proud. Al. Make us proud. Kill another soldier now. We will honor Homini from the belly of the beast. From the belly of the beast. We will honor h. We will honor Homini from the belly of the bee. From the belly.
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All right, now, so those are the Americans that the army. Our version of you guys is there was a full showdown, right. What ends up happening at this showdown is Americans now stage a protest. Okay? So I want to get this 100% right. So there's a protest in New York outside of Gracie Mansion, which is where mom, Donnie and his wife are living now as the mayor of New York. And it's called the Stop Islamic takeover of New York City. Stop New York City's Public Muslim prayer. So then of course the Muslims show up. I should say the radical Islamists show up. Let me make that clear distinction. And what ends up happening is a couple of kids who are inspired by isis, make homemade bombs, they get tackled by the police. And here's how the mayor responds to this. Okay? So he goes. Yesterday, white supremacist Jake Lang organized a protest outside of Gracie Mansion. Rooted in bigotry and racism, such hate has no place in New York City. It's an affront to our city values and the unity that defines who we are. What followed was even more disturbing. Now he does so here. He does call out the violence. Violence at a protest is never acceptable. Like you could have used stronger language. It's never acceptable like. And then he goes, the attempt to use an explosive device and hurt others is not only criminal, it's reprehensible and it's the antithesis of who we are. And he thanks the nypd. But he calls the group of Americans who are alarmed white supremacists, despite the fact that he knows as well as anyone does that radical Islam is not a race, it's an ideology. But he doesn't call the group that's inspired by ISIS that tried to kill everybody radical terrorists.
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If you read that, if you read that, you wouldn't know who. Who the bombs were part of. So the. And the same with the mainstream media. I've read the mainstream media's reporting on this now. Thank God for Elon Musk. Because if you didn't have Elon Musk and X was still controlled by the deep state, then you'd read these headlines and you'd think it was the white Americans who bought an explosive because it nowhere is it defined in the mainstream media. I saw nsbc. Is it. I've seen cnn. They don't define who. Who the bombs are. They don't define. They shout with Alar Akbar.
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Oh my God, you're absolutely right. It doesn't say that.
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No, they don't. So when you read it now, think about going, let's reverse.
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I'm reading it again now.
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But reverse. Three, four years, five years. Yeah, go back now. If we didn't have.
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He absolutely does not say that at all.
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You're right.
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What followed was even more disturbing. Violence at a protest is never acceptable.
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And whose protest is he talking about? White supremacists. So if you don't.
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Oh my God, I didn't even notice that. Tommy.
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And all the mainstream media go and look at the. Go and look at the CNN's report. None of them define. So if you just read their media and you didn't have X and you didn't have the platforms or you didn't have discussion shows like this, which remember we didn't have four or five years ago, everything was controlled. Republicans were censored. Voices like this. I was invisible. I was deleted from every single social media there is. I was blocked from everything. Yeah. So before Reno must bought X, no one, everyone reading this would read it, that there was a bomb, it was white supremacist and it's not acceptable and the media done the same. So if you're just picking up the headlines, then you're thinking, you don't realize that Alaraq bar has been Screened by a jihadist who has now confirmed and at the time that it's for isis.
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Now look at Mandani's response here. This is a serious terrorist attack by someone who's declared their loyalty against America. Against Americans. And you see the menu just seen on your screen. This is the warning. Yeah. You, those men that you've seen calling for support of, of the Ayatollah and against America. Well, we had this 20 years ago and they were allowed on the streets and they done. I am very surprised at how vocal they are in the United States of America. They are.
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So more to show you.
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Yeah, I know a lot more in mosques. Did you see the imam in the mosque when Mandani went. Went there. So he, he goes there, he goes to a mosque and then he steps off the Stage, the imam gets up and calls for murder against the infidels.
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What?
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Yeah, I'll send you the. I'll send you this. You can stick it in. So literally, obviously not in our language, but when you translate what he's saying, this is straight after Mandani. Pronouncing it right. Straight after, he's in the mosque, he steps off, the imam gets up and he calls for the obliteration and the murder of the infidels. Straight after.
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So we thank you very much for this and we pray daily for your success in this journey. Inshallah.
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Thank you. Now, the problem you've got is that the left, just like across Europe, just like they did in Lebanon, just like they did in Iran, the left are siding because many of the left, which. Look, it's probably wrong to say the left, it's what now has become of the left, because 20 years ago, I don't think most people take. Whether they take their value, some from the left, some from the right. Yeah. And left and the left's values have totally changed. They've totally changed what it means to be a supporter of the left. It's now become so separated, so violent, so hostile, so extreme, no room for discussions, no room for a debate. It's just an attack. And this is. We're seeing this and then the weaponization of these groups who are well funded, whether it be antifa. And they're aligning, and they're literally aligning and paid to cause this sort of. This sort of animosity, this sort of hostility, this sort of violence, which is what we're seeing. You can't speak any anymore. You can't have a discussion anymore. Now, left used to be for free speech, not anymore. So something has shifted. So. But what you're seeing in New York, it's just the seed you're not even seeing. I like to. I try to describe it as. This is the trailer for the movie that hasn't started yet. You better brace yourselves, America, because you used to talk. I used to listen to Americans. I used to listen to you talk about. At least listen to Americans talk about immigration. And you're on about Hispanic, Mexican. I used to think, God, give us that, please. Like, you have no idea now, your borders. And because of your immigration system and the way that you could get into the United States, you had to be educated, you have to have money. You had to pass all these checks. So you got the best. That's what you used to get. You got the best. Yeah. So some of the Muslim immigration, you've had would be well educated, from a, from a financial background. Not tribal, not coming from the caves in Afghanistan. Yeah.
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Each Thursday I sit down with the most influential people in America or a no spin chat, no script. Anything could happen. You can find. We'll do it live on BillOriley.com YouTube or wherever you download your podcast. Well, over the last eight years, your borders have been totally opened and it's been organized because so have ours. It's not a mistake. And they've come from Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria. The worst of the worst. Yeah, the worst of the worst is what your board's been open to and the consequences of this. And this isn't fear mongering and it's not. And again, listen, I'm not saying that every Muslim is a problem. I'm not saying that.
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No. And I want to address that. However,
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you don't know who is a problem and you don't know who's not.
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Okay. Well. And if we were to go back to, let's say, Trump's first term when he was going to implement a Muslim ban, I was horrified.
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And it wasn't a Muslim ban. It wasn't a Muslim ban. He was implementing a ban on countries that do not share intelligence with you, that do not have a stable government. So, for example, if we had that ban in the UK, the same one that he wanted to implement in 2016, or he tried to implement or did implement, then a Libyan in the UK who went to Libya, got bomb training. He blew up 26 kids. That would not have happened if we had that ban. Germany attacks in Europe wouldn't have happened just off that ban. Because what Trump was saying is, which is just logical. It's just the hysteria that the media created and the left created around this. What he's saying is we need to protect America now. We don't share intelligence. We have no database from Libya because the country's fell. It's governed by terrorists. We don't know who's who. Same with Somalia. Yeah. We don't know who's who. There's no law system. We don't share intelligence. So we don't know who's a terrorist, who's a jihadist. We don't have any shared intelligence. So it's a danger to allow people to go to these countries that have terrorist groups that are controlled by terrorist groups, which is what happened in the uk. Salman Abedi, who could recite the Quran without looking at. He's a terrorist in the uk. He went to Libya. He got weapons training and bomb training. He come back and blew up 26 children and Ariana Grande concert. That would not have happened.
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Oh my God. Circumstances around that wouldn't have happened.
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So either we care about saving the 26 kids or you care about a few people's hurt feelings. Immigration to the United States is not right. It's not right. It's for you to choose as a country and to make sure it benefits your country the same as what it's meant to be. My government's decision to import. It's supposed to be what's best for Britain and British people. And it's. And their job first and foremost is to protect British people. And they've failed miserably. Do you understand the rape statistics which I want to get on to just for your audience? Because if you care about women. Yeah, I care about British women.
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And I brought 200,000.
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No, it's. So we went, we went in 2003 from 8800 to 2023, 88,000. Now you can draw a graph for this. You can take the figures from 1975. There was 364 or 400 in Sweden. Last year was 32, 000. Now if you. And people say what's that to do? It's very clear what to do. If you can draw a graph from Islamic immigration and you can draw a graph from the statistics. So in the UK, Muslim men make up 3% of the British population.
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3 nothing though.
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Well, they're responsible for 90 of the gang and 30 of the men who have committed these gangs are called Muhammad. If you want to look at statistics in Germany, I think it's 56 or 58 of the were by Muslim migrants. They make than 10%. Sweden 63%. 63% the in Sweden, Muslim migrants imported into the nation have come in and they're raping their way through the country. And that's the same in the UK murders 77% of the last year in Paris. 77% of the rapes in Paris. Now again, is this something you're willing to sacrifice and play a game with?
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Do you remember, I'm sure you do, this summer Olympics where one of the girls was and she pretended that she couldn't identify her attacker because she was
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afraid of being called racist?
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Yes.
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Well, in the UK, this is so, too. So we get to 2009. This is my story. I do this first demonstration. I face relentless attacks, violence. My house is smashed up. But. But at the time, I'm part of a group of young Englishmen that go to football together. Yeah. And so if I went out on the town for those four or five years, I had to go out in a group of 20 or 30 men, because otherwise I'm under attack now. So I know. I know at this point, I've grown up with Muslims. I know. I know how they act, I know how they behave. I know how they think. I know all of it. Yeah. And I've. I've grown up in that. In that environment. And I know there's only one thing they actually respect, and it's strength. And that's just the fact they respect strength. You show them weakness, they'll run all over it. So come. Come to 2009. Our soldiers are attacked. I then decide that, and I sit down with my cousin and say, if we allow this, like, the progression here and it actually moves on, you see where it goes? Because this same group, this same group who protests against our soldiers and attacked our soldiers, well, two years later, they beheaded one of our soldiers. And the man who beheaded him, I'd already made a video telling the public who he was a year before. And looking at this group, this was the group that we were confronting. Yeah. And they went on to behead Lee Rigby. This is British soldier in the streets of our capital city. They took his head off in the streets. Yeah. Now, this was the progression of a process. What you're seeing there in New York, this is where it's going. I'm telling you, this is. And. And there's nowhere else it's going okay. Especially as in the United States, they've got firearms. So you're going to see an explosion coming to your country that you need to prepare for and that you're quite lucky. But lucky in the sense that you've got brave politicians, even talk show hosts that are willing to have this discussion. This is a difficult discussion to have.
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I know, because everyone just calls you Islamophobe and racist and bigot and that's it.
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No one wants to listen to it. But, but, but the reality is we've got to be courageous, you've got to be fearless. Because what's more important is it you being labeled a name? Are you worried about being branded a name? Or are you worried about the 26 kids who died in Manchester's arena Are you worried about the statistics that are now being imported into your country? Are you what you. That's. These are the things you need to be worried about. Now, what's more important. And this is what's happened to the uk. You've paralyzed an entire nation of what I'd say that were the toughest men on the planet. Britain is known. It's in our DNA to fight. And the whole country sat down and let women be. And the statistics. Just so people can understand. 2009 comes. I start an organization. We call it the English Defense League. It does as it says on the tin. You know, we were there to defend England against. And the. At this point, there's no grooming. Yeah, well, there is grooming. Our daughter's been raped in every town, city. But I take the group from Luton and start hitting other cities. Can.
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I'm so sorry. Can I ask you one question? What's the grooming part? I get that grooming implies you're training somebody for something.
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Yeah. What they do. So this is how they operate. Yeah. So to parents. And this should be. So.
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I didn't mean to sidebar.
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No, it's fine. There was a video done in 2007 coming out of Holland, and they called it Lover Boy. This. It was an educational video to be played to children and parents so they can understand the process. Now, in Britain, they wouldn't let the video be played.
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Okay.
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Because racist.
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Yeah.
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Now it's in. In Holland, Moroccan men were doing this in the UK In India, it's called Love Jihad. Yeah. So it's called Lover Boy here, Love g had here grooming in the UK that. It's exactly the same process. So what will happen? You'll be at school like we were. A young English girl will become friends with a Pakistani boy or an Afghani boy. They might be 13 or 14. They'll become close friends with them. And then they'll start hanging around with them. And then they'll pass them to their older brother, older cousin or uncle. So then these young girls think they're hanging out with older men who then start buying them new trainers, giving them cigarettes, giving them alcohol. And the grooming is because it's a process. It's exactly the same M.O. in every town. And see, it's coordinated, it's organized. It's like a mafia business to target England's doors. And what they'll do is they'll get the girl and they'll slowly. And I'll tell you that. So there's a girl I know, a beautiful Girl one that she was one of the most beautiful girls there was. Yeah, I know her family and all that them she used to go out one of my friends when we were kids. She's gone. Okay, she's gone. But what do you mean she's gone? I mean she's gone so far.
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You told me they bought sneakers for the girl.
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Okay, so they're by sneak. But this girl and when I sat down with her friend, her friend said have you heard about the hell do
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you mean she's gone?
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I mean that they take them. What they do is they'll get them in the process where they, the man will make her fall in love. So you'll have a 22, 23 year old man, drives a nice BMW and you'll have 12 or 13 year old girls.
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Oh God.
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They pick them up from the school gates but they were literally allowed to across our country come to the school gates. The parents would be making a fuss about it. But the police done nothing. Now I'll get on to the studies and what's actually happened. Yeah but that's what they do. So they, they treat them well, they give them money, they give them cigarettes. Now in that process they then they isolate them. So they take them away from their group of friends and they get them hanging around with only girls that are in with the other Pakistani who have been groomed as well. So the girls are in the same group. Then they're all getting drunk, they're all getting drugs, they're all being fed these things and they're all hanging around with these groups of men. Yeah, that's the process. The girl thinks she's fell in love. Now sometimes what they do is the man will then say to his, the girl who thinks she's his girlfriend and thinks she loves him. Yeah. And thinks he loves her. That. But then by that point the men will be saying your parents treat you like a child, they treat you like a little girl, you're not a little girl. So they cause a division at home and then they start ice. So they want the parents to fall out with the daughter. They want them isolated on their own. Now this is a process and there's actually this has happened to Sikh girls, Hindu girls, but majority white girls. Yeah, they target all non Muslim girls. They get them in this process. Then the man sometimes some which comes out in the court cases, how they first get them is the man will say I'm in real trouble, I owe these real bad people money and I need your help. The only way I can get out the money is if you have sex with a man. That's how it starts with some of them. Yeah. So. And it's the same MO So the girl thinks she's saving him. Yeah. And she's a child. She's a child of 12, 13, sometimes 11. Or sometimes they get them to a position where they fall in love, and then they take them to a house, and five or six men will then just gang the child. Now, this sounds. To an audience, this sounds insane. Yeah.
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But I know the numbers here, America.
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It's here. Yeah. So. Because there's not one single place this hasn't happened, not one single city in the UK that has a Muslim community where these gangs have been operating and. And targeting. Now, I went. I went. So I. I start my activism in 2009. I start an organization, and we, as young men, hit the streets. Now, there's a lot of criticism against the organization I formed.
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Yeah, this is the. This is the Piers Morgan critique that I. That I want. You know, we'll talk about. But he's like, oh, and I like peers a lot. So. So, you know, Pierce is like, this is the wrong way to handle it. You know, this violence is the wrong way. This is making the situation worse. That's the top criticism probably, of the British defense that you're talking about.
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Probably correct. In some. In some manners.
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Okay.
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In some manners, we were. I was 25 years old. We attempted in Luton, set up a petition. We attempted to talk to our council. We attempted to speak to the government. No one would speak with us. Yeah. At this point, our daughters are being r ped in every town at this point, we need men on the street. And the. The. And what we did, look, it wasn't going to be female nurses or doctors that stood up to it. The. To. To terrorists or gangs of jihadists. Rape gangs, herring gangs, armed gangs. It wasn't going to be that. So it was only going to be a certain type of mindset of Englishmen that would stand up to that. So when we went on the streets, now we have to. We left Luton as a group. We protested in Luton, our hometown, and we were attacked by the police. We were crushed by the police. They don't crush them. We were crushed by the police. Then we went to a city called Birmingham, and we went to this city, and there's all. You can get the video of this. There's a young boy called Sean, and he's with his friend. He's 11 years old. He goes shopping in the city center. And the group, this jihadist group. The same group AM was Redeem. Who are now. Who are now. You know why they are now a prescribed terrorist organization? Because we went after them. Other than that they were allowed for 20, 30 years to do what they've done. Because the English Defense League clashed with this group and young men formed groups in every town and city. The Proud Boys probably was similar. Yeah, in America.
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See the Proud Boys here have such a bad reputation.
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Yeah, I know, but they're a bad reputation. But a lot of its lies as well, which we face lies. They called us racist. We had a, we had a black, we had a lesbian and gay division, we had a Sikh division, a Hindu division, a Jewish division.
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I don't know that the Proud Boys have that here. This is all I know of them. And admittedly I've faced value and I'm like they're racist. And I've never looked.
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You know, the founder wasn't white of the Proud Boys. Come on, Enrique. He's not white.
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Enrique, seriously, he's not white. I can't defend these guys because I've always thought of them obviously white supremacy. So I don't know, I've not looked into it.
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Do you know some of the Proud Boys? So when there was a court case, there was a proud boy whose wife was black and on the. And they, and they cut her out of every picture as he was going into court. They just cut her out. So again with the English Defense League. Look at every demonstration we had a non white person speak at every demonstration. Because I'm from Luton, so my hometown. We white and blacks like this, there's no difference. So what made up at the start of the English Fence League, we got Nazi flag and set fire to it. You won't see any of this from the media. The media will turn up at demonstration, they'll home in on a few white skinhead, angry looking men and that's what they'd pump to the whole country. Yeah, the reality was very different. Now the entire time, if you google English Defence League, the entire time I led it. The Metropolitan Police Force has a counter extremism unit in Scotland Yard whose job it was to define groups. So you have far right, extreme, far right, far left. The entire time I led the Defense League it was a centrist organization but the media would tell you it's a far right extremist organization. Now once that was said a thousand times, that's then I gotta be honest,
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I mean I've been called a white supremacist like a million times. Famously on peers this went viral. A. A Muslim guy named Wajahat Ali. And I was simply trying to explain. This was after Bondi. I've talked about this before, so I'll make it brief, because the audience is like, we got it. But I was trying to explain, like, listen, okay, Bigotry is an irrational fear of something. But the problem is when you're hearing about grooming gangs and it's thousands and thousands of girls in a small country,
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or you're watching more than that. We'll get on that. I'll give you the figures. Okay.
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And I'm watching video of what just happened in Washington, D.C. where they're in the streets. Death to America. America. Allah Akbar. Burning the flag. Right. I'm watching it in New York, like I just showed you.
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And it's not irrational, is it?
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You're thinking, right, okay, so you're thinking like. But here's the, here's the concern is this, to me, is a bad idea. And I don't like this idea. It scares me quite a bit. And I don't think it's irrational. And it's like, oh, you're a white nationalist. And, like, the funny part is I probably could not be farther from a white nationalist. But, you know, you're like, I get.
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Okay.
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I mean, I guess I'm a white nationalist. So I, I now have just taken a step back from believing anything at face value.
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Do you know why that is? Do you know why those words are used to stop the debate?
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I know.
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So basically, I know they had the monopoly on this for 30 years where they had everyone scared. Not anymore. Yeah. So I wore all those labels and I, I faced. There's six Muslims in jail, got 30 years. They were on the way to kill me. They got caught with guns, bombs, IEDs. I had to be killed because of my blasphemy. So they got to. They got to the location two hours late. I've had fret, fret, violence, violence. But they labeled me as a Nazi. Now the Nazis hate me. I'm a race traitor to the them because I. Because, like, my organization has always welcomed everyone and any color and any race. So I'm, I'm. I'm a Nazi on one side, and then I'm a Zionist trait on the other. It's like I, I get hit from every side and, and, and, and the truth is I'm just. And you know why people say Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan was in charge of one of the biggest newspapers during the time of the scandal? Yeah, they knew. He knew. They all knew. Every newspaper knew. Now, none of them rose up to talk about, you know, how I know they know. So the English translate forms. In 2009, you can draw a graph here. Yeah, Now I remember. At the time, we were oppression, movement. That was my job. I led it, I found it, I led it. It's a difficult job, but no one's listening to us. They're raping our kids in every town, city. So we've got to get on the streets. We need to be heard. So I described the English Defence League as a cry for help. Every demo was a cry for help. And what I found very quickly as I traveled the uk, I sat with families. I gave this example the other day, I sat with a father from Blackpool. Now, there was a girl called Charlene Downs in Blackpool. She went missing. 13. She's never been found. They had recordings from the kebab shop of the Muslims saying they put her in the meat grinder of the kebab shop.
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Oh, God, stop.
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Do you know when her mum went looking for it?
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Oh, come on.
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Do you know when her mum went looking for. Google it. Get the story up, Joe. When her mum went looking for her. So she went to the kebab shop.
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Come on.
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The mum went to the kebab shop. They give her mum a kebab still.
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Come on. I feel like we're joking. No, we are fucking joking. Yes, we are.
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No. You have no idea the scale of this problem. No one does.
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No one does. So this is the darkest stain in British history ever, in our nation, what they've allowed to happen. And the stain, the darkest part of it is that they all knew. Every one of them knew. So Piers Morgan, you can call us what you want because Piers Morgan's from a privileged class in the uk. There's a massive class system where they look down their nose upon us. I didn't go to the right school, so I should sit down and shut up. Basically.
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Here's, here's what Pierce said and I tend to identify with Pierce because I find that he's more of a moderate. More reason. I'm not saying in comparison to you, I'm saying in the landscape and I tend to identify as more of a moderate. And I'll get to my concern about
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demonizing and he's not a moderate, he's a coward. We'll go on that.
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Well, the, the literally one point what, 7 billion Muslims that are tremendous people. So then, which, which again, I'll, I'll table that for a moment. But Pierce has said he's absolutely right about the gangs. We screwed up this huge. This is a big disaster. His argument is twofold. One is they brought gasoline to a bonfire, basically. Right. It's already a heated situation, it's inflamed. There's a way to de. Escalate. Now, Dave Rubin in this interview, who I know you know and have done shows with, is just like, well, Pierce, what would you do about it? What would you do about it if you were the PM of the UK tomorrow? And he's like, well, not, not that. And then his other argument is, I guess there was a, a Syrian boy that you'd made a documentary about, who I guess was not the, Was not. I haven't seen it. So I, I just watched that, that clip a Syrian boy who I guess you made a documentary about that had had false accusations of this kid. Oh, and this is the one you went to jail.
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Over 18 months of this in prison. And I told. And everyone knows anyone who watched that film knows I told the truth. I was given 18 months. So that story, I have to be careful what I say because I go straight back to jail.
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I understand, I get it.
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But Piers Morgan, let me tell you. So Piers Morgan, a Syrian child gets a bottle of water poured on his head in a school playground. Yeah. Piers Morgan and other journalists and celebrities, all of them started he used his platform on daytime TV to say, who is this vermin? The English kid called him vermin. 15 years old called him Vermin. Demanded severe retribution against that child. Now what I'd done, water pouring a bottle of water because we were told that the Syrian boy was waterboarded. Yeah. You see the video? He got bought a water poured in his head. Yeah. And he was held down. Now I show him that.
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You can see the video, it's in the documentary.
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Come here. What? So tight on the camera now.
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Okay.
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So he gets spot on the warp on him. And he has a broken arm at the time in a. In a plaster. And we're told that he broke his arm in a racist attack against him. Yeah, that's what we're told that. So all this story is pumped around and this was a global news story. And in fact it wasn't a viral video that just happened to go viral. The incident happened six weeks before they planned it. I prove all this in the documentary. Yeah. They use this story to pump a narrative and an agenda which is continually done. Now Piers, he talks about my journalism. I check and verify everything. I do. Yeah, I'm good at what I do. Piers used a daytime platform to demand severe retribution against a 15 year old child. Now that child tried to kill himself. That child lived with me for four years. So I went up to cover the
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white kid who poured the water bottle.
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The white kid who pours a bottle of water six weeks later after it's dealt with at school. Just a school playground incident. Yeah. The stories goes out and he's. And it goes viral everywhere. Muslim gangs turn up his house, his mum and that have to get flee the home. Threats to rape the mum, frets to kill the sisters who are 11 years old. I go up to interview him because I'm contacted by parents at the school and children at school saying that this is not the true story at all.
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Yeah, this part gets a little confusing. So I wanted to pause during the show and explain what Tommy is talking about. So the incident involving the British boy pouring a bottle of water on the Syrian boy is the one Tommy made a film about? No, Tommy went to jail because they claimed that he had made false claims about the Syrian child. Tommy claimed that this was not racially motivated at all and that the Syrian child had threatened the other kids at the school. Now, they found in court that this wasn't the case. The Syrian child had an exemplary record at the school. So when Tommy talks about showing up with a hidden camera and catching the teachers on film, he's trying to illustrate the fact that they did in fact not tell the truth about what really happened with both of the kids.
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So I. I'm contacted. So I make a video because180,000 pound had been donated to this child, the Syrian child. Now that I don't blame the child. He's a Syrian child. He's a child, he's come from war zone. Probably got lots of problems as. As of a lot. But he's been put into an English school and there was lots of allegations. Yeah. So about the behavior of this child. So I then go to this. I then go and make a video saying, stop donating your money, you're being lied to. You're not been given the full story here. Yeah. Peers has demanded severe retribution against a child. Yeah. So when I got to interview the kid and his family, the mum's crying, she spent all her Christmas money. They're poor.
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The British family.
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The British family, they're hiding. She spent all her money. They're in a hotel. So I said, what are you going to do? And I mean everyone piled on this story. This was world news. They spoke about the United Nations. This is the. And what I show in the documentary. And I messaged Piers again the other day why showing documentary is how many young English kids are not just have a bottle of water, but they literally get their head jumped all over by migrant children or by Pakistani children, girls that get violently battered. Piers is silent. Every commentator silent. Yeah. But because it's fashionable. And it was, oh, look how much I can virtue. I'm against the racist English white bullies. Now the reality is it had nothing to do with race proven in the police investigation. So it had nothing to do with the child being Syrian. Was there a racism problem in the school and. Well, no, I don't think there was. What about other Syrian refugees? Like, do you think what happened to Jamal in the schools because he was a Syrian refugee? No, I told you before that that would have happened if the child was white, big blue, whatever color. They're all scared. Yeah. Lower creepy years. And I work for probation service now. You do now? Yeah. So I don't know where I stand with it. If I go, I could lose my job. I then make the video. They come for me massively. They come to sue me for this. Yeah. But I make a doc, so they come to sue me. So I wear a hidden camera and I go up when they sue me and I go and knock on the teacher's doors because I know the truth of what's happened. I know it. I've already investigated it. It. But I need to prove it to you, the audience. Yeah. So I wear a hidden camera. I walk up to the school. I walk up to school teacher, Asian man, Asian teacher comes out. He says, tommy, I took the money. So they seem to be pretty keen on these NDAs. Who is that? Disclose that with you, Lords. I'm saying I can't disclose it because I signed it. How much money? I can't see the figure because if I see the figure, it goes out.
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18.
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I've just found out. Well, the head teachers told us already that he was blackmailed and threatened. I've just found out of Kumar. He was paid £18,000. I said, who paid you? And what do you mean he's on camera? I've got it all on camera, all of it. The. The documentary had 167 million views. Right. I got put. I got put in jail for 18 months.
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Oh, my God.
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For this film.
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Just waking up to this now.
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The film totally shows. You see what you think you know, your courts are bent and the judiciary is corrupt. It's weaponized. They used it against Trump. In fact, I'd say this in every interview. Pick any politician who spoke against mass immigration or the European Union. Because the European Union is a dictatorship. Yeah. Pick any of them. So Gert Fielders, court case after court case after court case. He's now. He won the election. Sure. Now, right. Marie Le Pen, she's being banned from standing court case after court case.
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No, I know.
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Salvini. Six year court cases, all lies. He proved himself innocent, but for six years he faced the court cases. Now the process is the punishment. Morton messagemidt Denmark face the same hate crime. Hate crime, hate crime, all nonsense. Yeah. So the courts are used when they can't stop you. So the courts were used against me and they put me through the court. So I went a more hidden camera and the Asian teacher says, they paid us. I said, who paid you? And he says, kirkley's council. So I look at who's in charge of Kirkley's council. Shabir Pandor is the Muslim in charge of this Council. Now, I don't know if you remember the batley school protests. There was a school teacher mentioned muhammad.
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I am new to all of this. I know about the grooming gangs a little bit. I'm waking up to death to America and the burning of my flag and the calling for jihad in times square and in my nation's capital. So that's the part that I'm like, that's scary. I don't like that. And then I, you know, oh, if you heard about Tommy Robinson, I'm like, who's Tommy Robinson? Then I go and I watch a bunch of your interviews. And then like, oh, my God.
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So this documentary, obviously, I went. And then the head teacher, I'll go to head teacher's house. And he says. He says, you're never going to get the truth out of here on this. And I've got it all on record. I said, why? He said, no one's allowed to talk about this to me. Me, I've got a problem here. I lost my job over this. And as a result, the council has told me that I cannot speak to anybody ever about it. So I can't discuss it. I can't discuss it with the media. I've always wanted to have my say against it, which I've never had, never been allowed to have. He goes, we told the media the truth. Yeah, we told them. Now, bearing in mind when I go and interview this english family, I said, where are you gonna go? She said, we've got nowhere to go. Everyone wants to kill us. I mean, everyone wants to kill him. Yeah, I show. I show in the documentary. I take the boy's social media account and I do a piece of paper for every hate instant and hate crime. It's this big. Now, the entire Islamic community had 360 incidents against him that year. He had a hundred thousand, this kid. No one cared. No one spoke up for him. Now. So I got there and I say, right, where are you going to stay? And they're four hours away from where I lived. So I took the family home. The boy lived with me for three, four years, and he tries to kill himself on Christmas eve. He barricades himself in because he's reading these comments that are telling him he's a child. Now, Pierce has never come out and apologized for this. Now, on the film, the reason why piers doesn't like me is because I exposed his ass to the world.
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Would you ever go on a show?
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Yeah, I would. Yeah. But I wanted him to wait his turn because he's not all him away his tongue because he thinks he's the top of the relevance. But he's been proven. Piers hacked dead kids phones fact.
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You guys gotta have a talk.
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I will have out. It will be a talk. But it'll be a talk. We had a talk. Yeah. It was the most watched version of Good morning Brim.
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He goes on Dave's show and he's like, you won't come talk to me?
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No. The point is. No. So what happened is I went on Good morning Brim which was with Piers Morgan after three consecutive terrorist attacks in three weeks in our country. Yeah. And I went on and I discussing it and in the in there I pulled out the Quran. Yeah. And they all.
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You should have seen the fear in their eyes. Yeah.
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He said put the book down.
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Put the book down.
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Yeah.
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I said, no, I won't put the book down. I said, now we have to have discussion on this. There's 100 verse in this. This call for our murder. Now, Piers shouted me down, called me a bigger and Islamophobe for trying to have a conversation.
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So.
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And then he blocked me after that. Now this was the most watched show and it has not aged well for him. Get it up. It's not age well for him because I'm just sitting there saying, listen, if we've got to stop these problems, we've got to stop the terrorism, stop the jihad. It's been proven. Everything I've said I would stop. You would ban all Muslims. I would temporarily halt Muslim immigration to this country until we get a grip of the problem. I think what you've done over the last. Over the last three weeks you've repeated what I've said for ten years. It speak in better English. And in three years time you'll be repeating what I'm saying now because you're all playing cat catch up. You are an influence and every opportunity I point out that you should not attack innocent Muslims at every opportunity. Every single time I differentiate Muslims from Islam.
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Right, but what you don't do differentiate Muslims.
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Muslims are people. Islam is an idea? Yeah. Islam's an idea, but a bad idea. Yes or no, are you Islamophobic? There's no such word as Islamophobia. Phobia is an irrational fear. It's not irrational to fear these things. Show some damn respect for people's religious beliefs, Right, Winston Church. No, I'm quoting previous. Some of the best leaders in this country. You're sounding like a bigoted lunatic. No, I'm not. Williams. You are stirring up hatred. You are abusing people's religion, you're abusing their faith, and you're being a complete disgrace. So from the start of my activism in 2009, everyone said I was lying about the gangs. I went on big, big news shows in my country and said, they're kidnapping our daughters. And I was condemned. Time and time. They laughed at me. They didn't just laugh at me, but this smear campaign in this operation to discredit me, me and. And label me and smear me of all of these things and attack me, imprison me. Cork. I've not. From that point of talking in 2009 till right now, there's not been one period in those 16 years I haven't faced prison. I face 10 years now. I face 10 years now for what? I face 10 years for questioning Daily Mail journalists, for turning the camera around on the mainstream media. So I've never been tried by jury. So. And this may sound. It's going to sound insane to an audience, but let's get back onto the scandal so you can understand why I faced all of this. 2009, we start an organization. There's a graph. The arrest for muslima along here, 2010, 2011, literally go straight up because they could hide it no longer because 10,000 young men are on the street and those 10,000 men aren't backing down. Yeah. And we're walking through singing Muslim pedophiles off our streets. We had placards. Our daughters are not allowed. Me, I'm giving speeches saying they're kidnapping them, they're torturing them, they're raping them, they're prostituting them. They're literally, literally being allowed to take our kids in every town and city. Now, fast forward 2014. We've gone through years of this relentlessly been demonized, been attacked, been battered, been targeted by terrorist groups. Everything's gone on. 2014, a journalist called Andrew Norfolk, who won all these awards for this. Yeah. And I prove this because I give a presentation called the Britain, which is an hour and 20 minute discussion and looking at the crimes of how they committed them, why they committed them, what the demographics are of the persecution of the rapist. But Andrew Norfolk says his, his words. He knew it was happening for years, but he was too scared to say anything. This is the top journalist in the UK for the Times newspaper. But then he saw the emergence of the far right. The English Defense League. Yeah. And then he knew he had to report it to take it back from the far right. So the far right being English men, Fathers, brothers. Yeah. Relatives of these children coming together. And then, because he didn't want us talking about it, he knew it was time. Like he takes some moral high ground. The, the, the scumbag journalist allowed. Because he was too scared, because all of the victims were white and all the perpetrators were Pakistanis. These are his words.
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I mean, I, this was reported.
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I know it's happening.
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You've been so vindicated on this. Turns out that following years of horrifying localized scandals in towns like Rotterdam, Rochdale and Telford, the UK government finally commissioned an independent review, referred to as the 2025 Baroness Casey report. And it conducted a definitive national audit of group based child sexual exploitation. And the objective was to uncover the true skill of these crimes across the country and to determine exactly why police, social services and local councils had repeatedly failed to intervene and protect kids. Here's what it found. The report exposed catastrophic, systemic institutional failures, revealing that authorities routinely dismissed, ignored or even blamed highly vulnerable children rather than investigating their abusers. Crucially, it concluded that a culture of institutional cowardice and fear of being labeled racist prevented police and social workers from acting on intelligence or openly acknowledging the demographic realities of the perpetrators, which allowed these organized networks to operate with near impunity for decades.
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So basically, 2014, a report comes out after this journalist and a very brave girl called Sammy Woodhouse. You should speak to Sammy sometime. Yeah, she's, she's the survivor.
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Okay.
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Who bought this? So we talked about it. We bought it to the country's attention. No one could hide from it. We made sure the world knew. Yeah. We went round for four or five years into cities with the world's media highlighting this crime. They decided then they've got to do something because they know it's, it's boiling over here. So they started arresting them. In 2014, Sammy Woodhouse, who's a survivor of one of the worst gangs in our country's history, she was impregnated as a child. She has a baby. Yeah. Nothing. She went to the police. Everyone went to the police. All these girls went to the Police.
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I do know that.
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So 2014, a report comes out. I can remember I was sat in jail at the time. So I'm sat in jail.
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Boom.
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This report comes out. Everything we said, everything we'd been saying. So the girl who got chopped up as kebab meat. Yeah.
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Oh, my God. This is insane.
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Well, that's telling me that girl.
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This is insane.
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No, it's a horror movie. This is a horror movie to a scale that no one has can understand. And you have to understand when we started Talking about in 2009, every council and every police force has allowed it here. So the people in top say, for example, the officer Roverham is this report that comes out in 2014 from Andrew Norfolk and Sammy Woodhouse, the brave lady who fronted this and bought this to the. To the court. She brought it to the court. She didn't back down. With the support of the journalist who knew it was happening for years. Yeah, he was forced to do it because. Because of the formation of the English fencing. Now, the English Defence League was for the brave and the stupid. Yeah. Because no, it was brave men, but it attracted some. Some, I understand. Yeah. It was a nationalist organization with the flag of our country that the media kept saying was racist. So we had an inner. A battle within the movement ourselves to kick out any racists that were coming. But we had an issue that we needed to highlight on the street. No one was listening, so they start arresting them all. And then in 2014, this report comes out and vindicates everything we said and it doesn't authenticate it. What we find out from this report is that the police, and remember the top police officer in charge of Rotherham, the town, they find out that 1, 400 children were raped in this small town of Rotherham. Now, Rotherham has a 3.7 Muslim population. Not many there. My town has 50. Some of the towns are 35, 40, 50 in other towns across the country. So imagine the figures in these towns, but 1400 children raped in this small town. Now they find out that the police knew it was happening, the council knew it's happening, labor knew it was happening, politicians knew it was happening, everyone knew it was happening. The social services, the hot. All of them knew it was happening, but they were all too scared of talking about it. This is where the level of self censorship. Because you're doing it here in America already. Yeah. You're self censoring your views because you're worried about being a cool Islamophobe in the bigger.
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I'm also worried and all an offering and I Don't want to take God. I don't want to take you off this train of thought because I'm trying to finish this. It's that for sure. But I'm also concerned that, you know, like, the stuff in the Quran that you're talking about, the sword verses, the latter version of the Prophet Muhammad is, is terrifying, terrifying stuff. The problem is you have billions of Muslims that are tremendous people, like the guy in Bondi beach who almost died taking down those two radical Islamist terrorists. So then I'm like, I don't want to be a source of violence or hatred against really good and innocent people. And I have asked every single person that has talked to me about this and nobody really knows how to, like, what do you do?
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So I have Muslims, as I said, that I love.
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But how do you, but like, how do you stop.
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They're irrelevant. That's, that's the fact of it. They're irrelevant. They're not going to stop them. They're just not going to stop it. So it's 20, they say security services around the world put the figure at 20. That's 400 million million. Now in the UK it's upwards of 40 want Sharia law. That's what, nearly 2 million, probably 1.86 million Muslims want Sharia law. 42% of French Muslims believe violence is justified. Name of Islam. 35% of British Muslims believe it. 40,000 British Muslims on a terror watch list. 40,000. We've only got 70,000 armed forces, so 3,000 loads to monitor them 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Cost nine billion pound a year. So again, when we're looking at statistics, do you know, in the whole period, we'll go through the Rotherham, 3.71, 400 children raped. We find out that the police knew. What we find out is that two fathers got together while they're 13 year old girls. And this isn't Tommy Robinson's opinion. You don't have to take my word for it. Read the study, you know, read the investigation that was done, that was funded to, to expose this, the, the Casey report. So when you read it, two fathers get together. Six Muslims are raping their daughters. Two girls, 13 years old. The dads go to the house to get their girls back. The police turned up and arrested the dads. What? Yeah.
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On what charge?
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On causing the disorder at the house. Left the girls inside the house with the men, left the children. Literally, when I'm telling you, they literally were stood down. Police across the country were stood down in that same Town. Now I know some of these girls. Now I've got to know the families around the whole UK for these crimes. One of the dads rung 999100 times. 100 times. There was another young girl. She was 12. She's in. She's drunk and she was in a derelict property. Five men all. All raping her. Police turned up, caught them in the process. They arrested the child for being drunk and disorderly.
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Stop. This can't be true.
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This is again be true.
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This can't be true.
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Every word can't be true. Do you know what else they took 11 year old girl with? And they got a hot iron rod with the letter M. They heated it up and they scold her bum because she was property of Muhammad. Another young girl. They nailed her tongue to a table. This isn't even about sexual.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on. I gotta just.
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Look.
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This is real. This is provable.
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This is it. This is.
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This is not hearsay.
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This is all documented now it wasn't.
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No one knew someone find. Like how could someone fact check us?
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You can fact check it from the court papers. And this. This is what come out recently. Joe. They were using a pump to make. Make what come out from Elon Musk shared was the court transcripts. And they're hiding all of this. Korea sama's just agreed to delete all the court transcripts from the cases. Yeah. Because there's so basically the COVID up which had been going on for 30 years. We form. Yeah. So they look at us and think we've all got dirty hands. The police that let it happen. Dirty hands. Politicians let it happen. Dirty hands. We've literally all allowed this to happen. Yeah. And because we're scared now. And you can look at the sphere for that. Look at what Keir Starmer just done. When your country our biggest ally. If we're in trouble, we need you. Yeah. So you're going to war with the Ayatollah. Keir Starmer won't let you use the military bases. That's not to do with our values or our belief. It's to do with surrender. He surrendered to the mob rule already.
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They simply pander to them now. They literally, they pandered to them. How powerful is political correctness? It's that powerful that they allowed an entire generation of Britain's daughters to get r?
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Ped.
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You can watch my five part series. It's called the Brim. I go as a journalist, I go to a town called Telford. Telford has a 1.7% Muslim population. Now, I went to this town and I went there because I knew with that small population, my town's 50. When I got there, everyone was warning me, you need to be careful with these gangs, the Pakistani gangs. You're going to get killed.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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But I said, I'm from Luton. You want to see what they've been like. We've been doing this for 20 years with them. I know what they're like. I just couldn't believe that they've got the whole town under grip for 1.7%. I thought, where's the men? Where are the English men? How have you not stood up against Isla?
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Because they put them in jail.
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No, it's not just they put them in jail. It's just the level of mafia, the violence, the way if you fight one Muslim, you've declared war on the whole tribe. Like when we were growing up, if you go out and there was a fight between the whites and blacks because there's always whites and blacks together against Pakistanis because they all come out in mobs. If you had a fight with them in the street, they get out of every car, they come out of every chicken shop. They don't know each other. They do not know each other. Like this Muslim who just, who just helped throw the bomb. They didn't know each other. They didn't know each other. Yeah, they just, they just all join in. They all are. It's a brotherhood and a mafia.
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Do you know that?
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And that's what they do. But that. So I go to Telford, I spend 12 to 18 months in this town and I make a five part series. It's going to be a six part. I still need to finish it, but they keep putting me in jail. But it's a five part series here.
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That's the craziest interview I've ever done. This is the craziest story I have ever.
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Stop him. But no, I shouldn't either.
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But it's like you just, it's so crazy that you just uncomfortably. I feel like I hate when Tucker Carlson does it. Like, I hate that. And I'm doing it right now. I'm like, all right, let me stop.
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He comes to my country and lied.
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That's. I, I know. And pretended he didn't know you. And then there's like a series of interviews that he'd done with you previously.
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I'm like, well before his Doha check, but I think that. But with these gangs. So I go to this town and I spend 12, 20 months and I sit down with probably 12 to 18 women. They're the survivors of these gangs and I sit with them and I intervene for three hours, four hours, three times, four times, five times. And I build a database and I do a police style investigation. We put trackers on their cars, we go to their businesses, we go in their shops, we use their taxis and we, we build. So the police investigation in this town. So there's a police investigation. We went to this town in 2010 with the English Fence League. 2014, they start arresting them. Yeah, 2014, 15. So. And I've done a graph to show. We went to this town in this year, they started arresting. Two years later, we went to this town. Literally every town we went to was about these issues. Yeah. So we went with 3,4000 men. Caused a big storm in the town. They board everywhere up. All the media come and we give speeches about them raping our kids and why they're raping them. But I go to this town, I do a police style investigation. The Police investigation identified 200 men raping children in this town. They identified 1, 000 victims. Five of the victims in this small town are dead. Some of the young girls burned Alive, Yeah, some of them burned. Live. I met the families of these children, yeah, in my, in my series. So they've killed them, right? They kill five and then they terrify the rest of the girls because they burned some of them alive. So any other girl, they're like, we'll do to you what we've done to them. Yeah. So then every girl is just scared, every family scared. These men have got guns. They're armed, which most people aren't in the uk. Only the gangs.
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That's right.
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We don't have guns. We can't defend ourselves and we can't defend ourselves. We're told we're not allowed to do, you know, two weeks, I'll keep, I'll keep going off on tangents. Two weeks before I come out here. Two weeks. The police contacted me. I'm named in this month's ISIS magazine. They put a picture of me in the ISIS map publication this month. To be killed at all costs. John, the police said to me, which you can listen to the recording. Yet they say, right, we can't protect you, we can't look after you 24 hours a day. And you're not allowed to get a weapon to defend yourself, because if you get a weapon to defend yourself, you will be prosecuted. So bearing in mind in my hometown, which is an ISIS stronghold, terrorist capital is where I'm from, yeah, they've let all the ISIS fighters back. Four times as many British Muslims went to fight for ISIS in a three year period. They never joined our British military in a 50 year period. Yeah. So ISIS is big. Our prisons are training camps for isis, but you can't defend yourself or you'll be prosecuted. So literally, see you later. You're in danger and we're not going to defend you. We can't protect you. They've all got weapons. So this is never let go of your guns, America. Never lose your free speech, because then you end up muzzled like us, whilst your hands are tied behind your back, while all the enemy have guns and weapons and you have to leave your country, like so many of our, our citizens are having to do. But back onto, I'm going off on a tangent, but back on to the gangs in Telford. Police identify a thousand 200 men. A thousand victims. We identified 260 men. Germany, Muslim men. There are, in that town a thousand. So the police identified 20 and an inquiry identified over 300. So minimum 20. Upwards of 30 of the men in that town were raping kids. Yeah, Muslim men would rape kids. This is what again this isn't my opinion. Check it on Grok because someone tried to fact check me the other day. Use Grok. Ask them. Yeah, they'll tell you. The figures show this. Yeah. So this is how big the problem is. The only towns we have figures for is Rotherham 3.7 and Telford 1.7. There's no Muslims there. Now, out of the 200 men that the police identified in their investigation, they prosecuted 11. The other 189. Now in our investigation, our documentary, we get the paper evidence that a 13 year old child was impregnated. They get 100 DNA match for the rapist who's 22. She wasn't sure who it could be, it could be a multiple men, but they get 100 DNA match for the rapist who was 22 at the time and he's not prosecuted, they just don't get prosecuted. So this scale of problem, what do you think the numbers are actually like? So to those who call us bigots or far right or racist, we don't care. Yeah. I said in the early days, tattoo it on my head if you want. Yeah. We care about our daughters, we care about the families. Now people say like, I've been, I've carried on through this, through prison sentences, through attacks, but I meet these families, I see the pain. And the reason my documentary was so that the British public in the audience watch these documentaries, they're@trfilms.co.uk they are going to break your heart because we tell the story of a survivor and they sit there and tell their own story and you hear, not again. It's not my opinion. Listen to them, what they've done to them. They took them up to the woods in the middle of the night at 12 years old. They took them out, they sexually abused them, they raped them and then they urinated in their faces as kids and then they left them in the woods. Imagine how scared you are as a 12 year old child. And these children had no one to turn to because lo and behold, the journalists don't want to be called racist. Piers Morgan at the time, he doesn't want to have a label, does he? So I don't really care what Piers and that say about us, if I'm honest, because everything we said has been proven right. We're not. And his criticism against me, I get called violent. Yeah. There's not one single instance of me being violent without defending myself. So if you punch me in the face, I'll punch you back. Yeah, unfortunately for you, okay, so I'm not going to apologize for being a man amongst non men nowadays because that's what we've created. We've created in the uk and you're doing the process of doing it as well. A generation of cowards who care about themselves, who don't care about the country and community. Do you know when I saw. I get a lot of criticism for my support of Israel as well, but,
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oh God, God forbid, you don't think everything is, is the fault of the Jews. You're a genocidal scientist.
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No, that's the EAS way out. That's the easy way out.
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You're like, well, I don't, I don't know that. I don't think they killed Charlie Kirk. I don't think there's evidence for that. Oh, genocide.
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But they want to attack. But the thing is, it's easy to attack the Jews and it's easy.
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And there's only 14 million of them.
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It's easy. And it gets lots of likes from the new community.
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It is so popular. It is popular. It is so popular. Sidebar. Here's my little, little sidebar that the governor of California has just taken a position against Israel, basically suggesting that because it's an apartheid state, Trump has essentially gone to war with Iran because of Israel. That's the only reason.
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Because Iran funded 12, 12 terror plots in our country. Do you know Iran wanted to. Matt. Wanted to assassinate your promise, your president. You know Iran have killed how many American troops? Do you know Iran are the funders of Hezbollah, Houthis, they're the funders of Hamas. Do you know every sponsor terrorism is the Ayatollah of Iran. And you know, for any Americans that don't actually get it, this isn't Saddam Hussein and this isn't, this isn't Colonel, this isn't Gaddafi who want it. Who their world. Their view was about their nation and their land. Yeah. The Ayatollah's view is about your nation and your land. They want world domination. That's his mindset. They're a caliphate mindset. And they want death to the west and death to the United States and death to America and death to all of us. And that's what they want. And they've enslaved 90 million people for 45 years. However many years is they've enslaved people that aren't Muslim and they've made them become Muslim and they've had them subjugated, dominated, raped. So when you see these people crying up, I just keep. Because I hear these commentators, I hear these commentators talking about a Muslim Christian Alliance. Yeah, I think, yeah. You come to Europe and tell us that like you haven't lived this and you're gonna live it. So unfortunately, none of your, none of your videos are going to age well. To these commentators who have sold their soul on this issue, you, you're going to face jihad. You've already faced it last week in Texas. If there was another terror plot this week there's going to be more. It's going to continue. It's going to go through the roof. It's here now in America. It's here. It's here. Yeah. We have been paralyzed as a nation, the strongest nation. It doesn't look like Britain anymore. You need to understand what's happened and you need. And you can stop it America. And you don't have to stop it to be by discriminating against every single person or being horrible. You just need to stop the influence of Islam. Stiff you can. Immigration into the United States has to benefit the United States. If I put, if I put a, if I put a pot there, this is what I keep saying. Var border. It doesn't make sense. If I put a pot there of 100 skills and I say three or four of them, when you eat them are going to kill you, are you going to start picking out of those skills and eating them? You're not, are you? That's the danger. That's the border. That's the border. Because some of them are going to kill us. Some of them can commit terrorism. Look how many ICE are trying to find in kids that are terrorists, that are jihadists. And not just that. You'll never win an election again because democracy is used to end democracy as we're seeing in the UK so the Muslim community flood it. 700 increase in illegal immigration into your swing states. There never would have been a swing state again. That's the goal. That was the goal.
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Yeah. That is the goal.
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That's the goal. And it's not hateful to say this. It's not. And again, I just come from the UK under a lot of criticism, of course, because I've exposed my government time and time again. I've exposed the media time and time again. I'm the enemy of the media. Discussions like this are the future. And, and it's imp. It's not just important. It's. I always say the mainstream media. Just the reporting of this attack in New York just shows it. Yeah. The mainstream media of the cancer and citizen journalism is the cure. Elon Musk has given us now hope in the uk he's given us a platform to discuss these topics that you are allowed to discuss and to warn the public, because that's our. Our leader's duty is to warn the public. But rather than warn them they're lying
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to us, can I show you this video of call to prayer in Times Square, which now you're seeing all across the world. And the guy's like, they're worried about us taking over New York. We are taking over New York. And I was like, why are you saying that, though? Like, here, take a look at this.
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They could do it silently.
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Yeah, hang on. It is, right. Exactly. Thought number one, guys, right? Like, it just is so bold. Take a look at this.
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It can be bold.
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Giving that.
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Yo, make some noise from the brother mortar right now. Baby mash. Yeah. Oh, don't scare them, brothers. Relax. They're over here on purpose to be like, oh, my God, who's seen those videos? Where they're like, oh, my God, the Muslims are taking over New York. So you seen those? You seen. Let them know that we are taking over New York City. Oh, my God. Yeah, you need to deal with it now. That's the point. You need to deal with it now because you won't be able to. You just won't be able to. You'll be in the situation we're in. Yeah. And that's why the warning. Look in the UK again, female genital mutilation. Yeah. That is the cuttering. Cutting off of a child, a young girl's clitoris. Yeah. Because she's not meant to enjoy sex. She's just meant to have babies. Babies. Okay, so what they do55,000 British children this has happened to now, are you. No.
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Where are these insane numbers? How your countries. How many people are in your country?
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Yeah, but this is your country. This is America, where that Somali community is. Have a look at the rate. Do it now. Just get someone to do it now. The rate of Somalian women who have faced fgm, it's like the majority. Yeah.
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What? Fgm, it's called female genital mun.
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Now. Now, in the uk, that carries a
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prison in Minneapolis and Somalia.
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No, in. It'll be. It'll be in America, 100 now, what they've tried to do.
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All right, team, can you. If you guys can reach Porter or Fletcher, can you ask them to check that?
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Have a look how many it is in Somalia. I'm pretty sure it's upwards of 90, I'm guessing. Let me have a look. So, okay, FGM in Somalia. What percentage now, their values. 98 of women aged 15 to 49 have undergone the procedure. So 98 of Somalian women have had their, their clitorises cut off. Okay, so that is so that they don't want sex, have a drive for sex, enjoy sex.
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Okay, great. Guys, what do you have for me?
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Now listen, because that's.
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If you fact check from Fletch.
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But if you think, if you think that that's left at your border when they come in, it's not. It's like the 99 of Afghanis want Sharia law. They don't get to your border and go, we'll see you later. Sharia law. We now would love democracy and freedom. No, they want Sharia law. They bring that value system into your country and then they push it. Now, fgm, this is where you understand how the problems can't be dealt with. Because in the UK it's a prison sentence. Fact check this again. It's a prison sentence, I think of 15 or 20 years. Yeah. I think that the parents who allow their child to have their genitals mutilated can receive a prison sentence of like 15 years. Joe, in the last. Out of those 55, 000 British children, you know how many people have been prosecuted?
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You're gonna tell me. None.
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One last year. One. Joe, why? Because if they prosecute the parents, there's not a single prison place left. We simply can't deal with it. So then we turned a blind eye. So then we call it cultural, scientific. So we allow little British children because they're born in Britain. Like you're allowing American children right now to have their genitals mutilated. Because we don't know how to deal with the scale of this problem that we've imported in. Like there's so many problems that are coming. Say for example, Pakistani men make up 3% of the British population. They're responsible for 33 of child defects because in some cities, 76 of them marry their cousins. You've got, you can't. You will allow, like we have. The problem's so big we can't deal with it. So then the terrorism front and the threat of violence from a hostile, aggressive community because they will riot. You see those New York, you go and try and move them. So you see where they're praying in that, in your capital. Try and move them. Watch what happens.
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It's a full blown street fight. And then the Americans are called white supremacists.
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But then, and not just that, they weren't just right there then. This is What Europe knows. So ice. Okay. You're lucky. Yeah. You've got them. Right. We need nice. But you see, if we had a nice in Europe, they will burn the whole of Europe. You won't be able to go get the elite.
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Americans are.
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No, but you. That's.
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But that situation has climbed so out of control.
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Yeah, but you. That's at 1%. You've only got 1%, man, that once you get these strongholds. And I went to Texas. Yeah. Since I've been here, you've got 330 mosques in Texas. Five years ago you had 200. Okay.
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Texas is a big problem, but so weird.
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No, it's not.
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It's not red.
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No, it's not weird.
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Why?
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It's intentionally targeting Texas to take the soul of America. If they take Texas, they've got America. If they take Texas. Yeah. Which they're gonna. Because not just that, the centers. And. And I don't mean this isn't scaremongering, because I've watched it. Okay. They come in. You've seen Epic City.
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Yeah.
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Have you seen. No, that's. Okay. So Epic City. I went to a mosque. They put a plan in for this massive city. Yeah. And it's got a huge mosque. And then all the houses that are there are for Muslims and a percentage of the fees go back to the mosque.
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This is all in Texas.
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This is in Texas? No, this is in Plano. Plano.
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Okay.
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Yeah, Plano. The names of the roads that they're naming in this Islamic city are all named after Islamic conquerors. They're conquering your country. It's funded. Now, I understand we need economic relations with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, but why are we allowed in Saudi Arabia or Qatar to fund any schools, madrasas, mosques. You can't build a church in Saudi Arabia. What? The value system in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. You can't leave Islam in those countries. You get killed. Punishable by death. To leave Islam is punishable by death in these Islamic nations. That means freedom of religion. Like they keep crying about and talking about. They don't believe in it. Free speech. Don't believe in it. Criticize Muhammad, you're dead. So the values are totally opposite. And you're building entire cities now that are funded. And they're going to use your constitution, use your freedoms against you in order to build entire enclaves. Now the. These enclaves Now, I went look at my video. It's doing quite well. I went and interviewed a lady and I've seen this myself, you know, I interviewed a lady and her Husband whose grandmother lived in Plano, mother lived in Plano. She's now fled Plano. She's fled because she's been harassed and persecuted by Muslim men in the area. So she's had to leave. She's crying, talking about how she's left her home place and the change in face of Texas. But Germany, Americans are contacting me with the change in face of their towns. This is not a mistake and this is the seed that's been planted. And as those communities grow, my local council of mosques which is now 45 they do a deal with local council. Your if they, if they can swing seats everyone will bend to them this and. And you see 50. I think you had a 50. 50 vote rate. I think 20 like Kia Starmer, the coward in charge of our, our country. The, the tyrant. He was elected off 9 million votes. 20 million people didn't vote. I think 86 million Americans didn't vote. I think. Yeah. Now I'm not totally sure I think but the percentage of that's funny.
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I didn't think about that. I do know like Trump won by 5 million votes. Trump ones.
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But well, they all vote. They vote in a military fashion and they vote for who their imam tells them to vote for. So the imam does deals with the Democrats. So you know the fraud in Minnesota, everyone knows happening but they let it happen because they've got their hundred thousand votes.
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Yeah. Jacob Prey.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's like trying to speak.
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You keep doing this because the money comes free circle. Probably half of it goes to Al Shabaab funding terrorist organizations. The other half comes back to the Democrats, funds their campaigns and then they know we've got this vote bank. They're never going to vote Republicans. And then you just have to look at the figures of how many can speak English and how many are on welfare 10 years after being in the country. Somalians. Now what. What's the benefit? There is no benefit to America to you taxpayers who are working hard. But there is a benefit to the Democrats because the Democrats have worked very hard. Even the black families. What you had 80, had a father in the 60s. Now it's 20. That's the real racism. America, stop talking. Yeah, that's the real racism. That's august organize. Yeah. The black community, they wanted you. We talk about plantations. You're still on plantations. It's the Democrat plantations because they want you there. They want you reliant on the site. They want you broke. They want you down there. They want people relying on the states. They can grow their government yeah, and control. That's what they want. Now when you aspire, like many blacks did, to start voting Donald Trump and Republicans, this is what happened in the uk. We working class, when we become successful, we then look at the Conservatives because we realize that this is all nonsense. So we end up becoming Tories or Conservatives.
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Right?
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They've just replaced us. They've just replaced us. They feel betrayed. They've replaced us. Literally in the uk, they've replaced us. The working command has been replaced by. By a relying population who are quite happy. My local Imam has 14 children with three wives and he's living a very halal life. To pray five times a day. We're paying for it. In fact, they tell you this, they're happy to come in and take the benefit system. Take, take, take, take, take, take. They put nothing in and take everything out because we're putting everything in. We're working 40 hours, 50 hours and we're paying for them. And the figures to America you can. There's been study after study in Denmark, in Holland, that show not just the first generation, but the second and the third. They're all relying on, say it's literally importing a new vote bank that are replacing the native population of Europe. Now whilst they do this, it gives them easy governorship. We. They've imported hostile, violent communities. Crime is going through the roof. We'll end up crying out for them, please, more law, more order, more cameras, more surveillance. More, more, more. Because we'll need it. And then they take power and less freedom. Our freedoms are being obliterated. Free speech is gone. There's no free speech in Britain. And then they use continually hate speech. We need. Well, we need to, because Islamophobia is on the rise. What are you talking about? 9,000 churches in the last three years have been smashed to pieces. Have been criminal activity against 9,000 churches in Britain. 9,000. But yet headline news, if someone puts a bit of bacon near a mosque, you don't hear about anything that's happened to us. Look, go down the rabbit hole and how many churches have been burned? Two last week. How many churches are being burned across Europe? They're setting fire. And our main. Hundreds of years old churches are being burned to the ground. It doesn't even make the news. The news is someone, someone looked at a Muslim dirty headline, world news. Doesn't matter if synagogues are getting shot up, I think three times now. And none of this matters if churches or synagogues or any of these things getting blown up because they are importing a Loyal Vote Bank. They are bringing in a hostile community. It's aliens. It's oil and water. The value systems are totally different. Totally different.
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You know what's crazy is that you see a war on, particularly white Christian men here, and it's called out. You know, Hillary Clinton was like, well, these white Christian men just want to drag us back to the Dark Ages. And, you know, you've got.
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We're not 7% population of the world now, but what are they talking about? You know what I mean?
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And the Jews are a few million, a handful, 14 million people.
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It's like 55 Islamic nations, and the Jews have got one. And you can't just handle it. It's like, come on, man, It's.
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It's crazy. And, you know, I was watching. I don't wonder if you saw this. It was an episode of Joe Rogan, then he had Matt McConaughey on. And I'm not religious. I have no new dog in the. In the religion fight. I believe people should pray to their own God. And that's wonderful. But. But McConaughey's like, well, how do you feel about putting the Ten Commandments in a schoolroom? And Rogan's like, no, I don't think we should do that.
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We need to do that.
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Well, what's interesting about that is I was like, that's interesting. Let me explore what I think about this. And I'm like, I get what Rogan's, I guess, trying to say is like, your religion is your religion, but don't try to put it on other people. So McConaughey's like, let's go through each one of these 10 commandments, and they go through the 10 commandments. And Joe's like, that's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, I think we should all follow that one. But. But, you know, we're so quick to be like, oh, I don't want your. Don't put your Christianity over here. No, no, no, no, no. And if. If you had a bunch of Christians in Times Square holding church or like, oh, my God, people would go crazy, crazy. They would go crazy about Christian nationalism. And, you know, I don't want to get your Bible out of my uterus, all of this stuff. And yet if it's Islam. Yeah. There's zero concern.
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Well, they're. They're alongside them. Not just concern. They support them. They support what they're doing. Look, many of these far left groups and organizations want to bring down the system. They want destruction of the system. Replace it with Marxism. Now this is what they've done in Lebanon, it's what they've done in Iran. They work together. They work together then and then as soon as the Muslims took over, they killed them. So there's only one benefit where if they do win, they'll left again. Executed straight away. But it's like, like when you look at the Ten Commandments, America can't. You can't do this. You need to understand. What built Britain? What built Britain?
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I don't know.
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Christianity.
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Oh, of course.
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It's built on the values.
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Judeo, Christian values.
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It was built on the values. I saw an interview with the Queen and they say, what built Britain? She says, the Bible. Now we have a thousand years, a thousand years of Christian culture, English identity in our country. They have gave it away in 60 years. Years. Now where we messed up was the church, because the church have been captured. In the uk, there's no church, it's just a Marxist rainbow flag it flying. And I'm pro gay rights. I know what you're saying, but. I know what you're saying, but this is. And you know what is left. When we lost our faith and our identity as a nation, we lost our value system. Now when you break down the family as well, you break. You use mass immigration, the community will start fleeing and running away because that's what everyone does. Like this couple I spoke to in Plano. They leave. And they used to know their neighbors, now they don't know any. Yeah. So you break down the strong community, you break down the Christian values, you break down the man, you weaken him, you're feminizing. You tell him he's bad at everything. You go through this process which has to now be viewed as a. They've had a revolution. The left have had a successful revolution across the West. They broke down borders, broke down identity, broke down family, broke down the church. All of these things have been attacked from all angles. And what that leaves then is men who don't know who they are. That's why so many and lost their identity. That's why so many are converting. That's why so many are searching for other identities. Now it's left a void in the uk. It's not happening in Poland because they know who they are. It's not happening in Hungary because they know where they are. But in the uk, a void has been left. Now into that void fills Islam, lgbtq, Marxism, Communism, all these other value systems which have nothing on our value system. Our value system. So if you don't Believe in Jesus. If you don't believe in Christians, just look at the Ten Commandments. What is wrong with building a society based on this value system, which is where we get our compass from?
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That's actually one of the things that I've leaned into about Christianity is I'm like, you know what, that's good. There's, there's elements of this that, you know, I. Being gay, of course there's always going to be that friction point.
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Which Christian country, where are Christians executing homosexuals? Based on what? The Bible. They're not.
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I know they are.
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Islamic nations in Gaza. Gaze for Gaza. Yeah, they're from off the rooftop.
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I know,
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I know they.
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I know. And you know, I've also kind of, with regard to the divinity piece, I'm like, listen, obviously this is going to go against what I have perceived with regard to science. It was there an immaculate conception? I'm here to say I don't know. Right. I have no idea. But the principles unequivocally make incredible sense to me. And that's the part that I'm like, you know, I could try to be more Christ. Like I could lean into this concept and that's the stuff that I, I feel myself gravitate towards or these values that you speak of. And that's unquestionable to me. But then when I go to look at Islam, you've got early Muhammad, who's a lovely person, stage phase two Muhammad,
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who is friggin terrifying gentle abrogationist in his Islam.
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Yes. When you leave, they kill you. Right?
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No, no, that's apostasy.
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Oh, excuse me.
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Abrogation is if there's two contradictory verses.
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Oh yes. The, the oldest one matters, which is
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why the Quran, it's not in chronological order. Now used to be. So when Gladstone and Churchill, my leaders, best leaders the planets have had when they were leading broom, the Quran that they picked up was in chronological order. That means what Muhammad says is in date order. Now it's literally an encrypted book. So when you pick up the Quran. So I, I wrote a book, it was number one bestseller. It's called Muhammad's why Muslims Kill for Islam. Yeah. And what we've done is we took the Quran and we put it back in the order it's historically always been in. And that's not my order. We took Islamic scholars, the most renowned in the world, and we took the order that they say it goes in for. When it says now what the purpose of that in the book, what we've done is we take a line. So every peaceful verse in, when you open up, it just has a little line for it. And after it has Surah 59, it has whichever verse abrogates it, because that's why it's important. And we put all the verses of violence and hate and. And war in bold letters. So the idea is you can pick up this book and then when you open it, you'll very quickly understand this is a war manual. Yeah. And you know the term. This is the most amazing thing. Do you know the term Islam is a religion of peace?
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Yeah, of course I do, because I believed it.
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Do you know why you believed it?
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Because they told me.
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Do you know that was never, ever said in history till George W. Bush. I tried to find it. Try and find it, guys. Try and fact check me. Yeah, look for Islam's religion of peace. Right. Because whenever. When we. When we wrote this book is with a gentleman called Peter, Peter McLoughlin. He's a genius. Yeah. But we. We worked on this book to try and we call it the Great Lie. So when George W. Bush, after September 11, said Islam's religion of peace, no one's ever said that. Erdogan, the. The leader of Turkey, said the dome is their helmet, the minaret is their bayonet there. That they are weapon, that the mosques are their weapons for war. So all previous leaders, and not just their leaders, so Sir William Gladstone held the Quran above his head and he said, there'll never be peace on this earth so long as we have this book. It's a violent and cursed book. He didn't talk about an interpretation of this book. He talked about the book. Winston Churchill said Islam in a man is like rabies in a dog. That's the equivalent of what he said. Yeah. He also said Muslims show. Individuals show amazing traits, but Islam has the power to bring Europe back to the Dark Ages. Your previous military leaders in the United States, we put it all in. In the reception, because a military leader and a political leader's job is to educate the public of any danger. Well, they always did. They never talked about Islam as original peace. It's never been said. Islamic scholars never said it. World leaders never said it. Military never said it. George Bush said it. And once they said it a thousand times, a hundred thousand times, it then becomes a matter of fact, just like Tommy Robinson's a racist and far right, because they just keep saying it. And then even Muslims then take it. John. I went. And they've never been challenged on it. There was a chat show. I Went on when I first started this, and the Muslim said, the imam said, yeah, well, Islam translates as peace.
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Yes.
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It doesn't. It translates to submit. It translate literally is submit. Now that submit means surrender. So you're sitting here telling everyone it means peace when what it means is surrender. Well, we're not going to surrender. So our motto from that early years is, we will not submit. Submit. We're not going to submit. Okay. We're not willing to submit. I'm not going to sacrifice my children's future or England's future because of a few words that you're going to call us. Because that's where we're at right now, America. We're at a position where you either man up, excuse me, but you man up and you think of the American future of your nation. You're at a crossroads. You even want to become Britain, Wherever we lost our culture, lost our identity, surrendered to mob rule, rapes through the roof, terrorism, jihad, war, it's all coming. Germany. Exactly that, Joe. Germany let in a million, Angela.
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Disaster.
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But you let in 10 minutes.
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Seen the streets?
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Yeah. You've seen the streets. They let in a million, you've let in 10 million more. So she let in a million. Now, when she let in a million between 2017 and 2022, rates went up 45. So from when she let them in, the rates went up 45. Just last year, 11 of the rapes were by Syrian nationals. These were. Don't have to happen. They didn't need to happen. You didn't need to let them in. Unless you're intent on destroying the west, which every western nation this is happening to Canada, Australia, America, all the borders are opened at the same time with the same caravans, literally. Libya, they get 20 meters off the coast and then an NGO funded by the European Union, mainly Germany, go and pick them up, bring them to the next stage, house them, feed them, cloth them, bring them to the next stage, put them in a hotel. 25 kids and sexually assaulted just by the migrants in the hotels.
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Like, I would do anything to help people who are refugees, but now we got it.
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But.
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But there's a vetting system.
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How many kids are there coming on the boats? There's none. It's all fighting age men. The figures show it. It's so approvable. This isn't my opinion. Again, it's all fact. It's all men. It's all fighting age men. Now, if it was kids and women, there wouldn't be the hoo ha. There is. Yeah. If it was women, and kids that were escaping war zones, but let's face it, they go through 16 safe countries to get to us. So they're not refugees. A refugee is someone who's seeking sanctuary and safety. Well, they were safe in Turkey. They were safe in the next country, and they've gone through another 16 to get to our country for a free house, free benefits. And if you understand Islamic migration, it's part of their jihad. So part of their jihad, what Muhammad is in the Quran, his verses in the Quran is to take Islam around the world and they clear all their sins if they do that. So our countries are being invaded. That's what's happening now. Immigration. Alex Stein, I like you for this. Immigration without integration or assimilation is invasion. Joe. Qatar spent a billion pound, which is why it frustrates me so much in that. Tucker Colson, because a million. A billion pound they've spent Islamizing and causing radicalization in our countries. And now they're doing it in America. The whole time they're doing it. You got voice pieces for them now saying, oh, Qatar's lovely. Yeah. Loads of Christian rights. It's like, were you for real? It's punishable by death to leave Islam in Qatar. Okay. There's no free speech or freedom in Qatar. So I just find it and. But you have American commentators now who, quite frankly, I'm not being. Didn't mean to be insulting, have no idea what they're talking about because they've not been surrounded by a hostile Islamic community. They. Tucker Coulson said when he come to uk, his taxi driver, who was Pakistani, he was really nice. I don't see any problems here. It really. You diminished the generation of our kids because you had a nice Pakistani taxi driver. Most Muslims that you find that are good, they're not great people because of what they're following in the Quran. They're just good people. Most Muslims are cut. We're lucky. Most Muslims take their religion like a buffet. They'll take the bits they like and ignore the bits they don't like. But the literal interpretation of the. Of the book.
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Yeah.
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Which is where ICE is coming. Al Qaeda, come in. Boko Haram, come in. It's like you've got the Houthis, you've got Hamas, you've got all these terrorist organizations who are misrepresenting Islam in exactly the same way.
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You know what's crazy about Tucker, though, is I could show you a video
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B
right now when he used to tell the truth.
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A
I've actually got it.
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B
Come on, let's see this is.
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A
Tucker.
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Aren't we the only country allowed to make preemptive strikes? Who the hell does Iran think it is? Actually, I. I know you're sort of kidding, but I agree with that. I think we are the only. No, I'm not kidding at all. We are. That's absolutely right. The only country with the moral authority sufficient to do that. The only country that doesn't seek hegemony in the world. I do think. I'm sure I'm a lone voice in saying this. I think Iran deserves to be annihilated. I think they're lunatics. I think they're evil. He's just called American troops. Didn't he say they're going to women? He's just made a comment. Have you heard it?
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I have not.
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He just made a comment saying that total surrender, which is what Donald Trump's called for. Yes, you need to surrender. America is back. Okay? That's what's good to see. Because America looked like. What can I talk. America look like for the last 10 years.
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I know.
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Okay. You look weak. You look pathetic. If I'm honest on the world stage now, you don't. Okay. Mess around and find out, quite frankly, which is how it should be. Because you can't allow these ayatollahs and these regimes of communism to dictate what's going on in the world because they're fascist, they're extremists. But him saying that he's now on the side of the ayatollah dollar, this is the problem. Same with Piers Morgan. They don't actually have values. He doesn't have values. So what do you get? 15 million pound off some Pakistani funder. And his values disappeared overnight. That's Tucker Coulson. I know his values disappeared overnight for 15mil, but he doesn't even need 15mil. How can you sell your value?
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1789 fund, I think I know of. And now is American, but. But his money is from the Middle East. But there's now starting to be leaks that there were direct payments from Qatar, but a bit. But I don't know. None of this is. This is rumor.
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B
Something's got explained. The change of heart. I know now again to Americans because I hear so many. I understand Donald Trump has voted against the war. Yeah. And voted against regime change. This is not like. If you're not dealing with people who think logically here. The Ayatollah of Iran, if they could and they managed to build a nuclear weapon, they press it straight away. They'd get rid of you tomorrow. Yeah. They would obliterate America. They'd obliterate Britain. They'd obliterate Israel. They obliterate everywhere that's not Muslim him. Because they want to dominate the world and they wouldn't care that you're going to fire one back because they think they're going up there. They'll be quite happy going up to all our virgins. So it's like now when you see that from Tucker, it's the same way. I have a problem with Piers Morgan. Piers was against Black Lives Matter for black Lives Matter. Against the vaccine force vaccine. No, for the vaccine force lockdowns. Then realize then starts talking out against it. He was for Israel then as it become fashionable and get more likes to be against Israeli jumps on that side. So. Or any of these people. I actually look and think, I don't know what your values are. I don't know what. Tuck the Tucker Coulson away from the influence.
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Actually believes Tucker has been a complete 180. Pierce. I identify with more because I've changed so dramatically. So, like what I was telling you with Syria, I joined. Literally joined the United nations refugee and stayed in refugee camps in the Congo. Mind you, I wanted to go to Syria.
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B
This is why I wasn't famous enough.
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A
How much ridiculous is that? They're like, Angelina Jolie's in Syria. Maybe you could go to the Congo.
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B
I understand that most liberals and most people like this are doing this because they're good people.
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A
That's the thing.
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They're doing this.
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A lack of understanding. So then the concern is you're demonizing all these Muslims. You're. You're creating racism. They're. They're going to be, you know, harmed or hurt. And I do have a genuine concern that there's got to be a way to make a distinction of, okay, who's insane, literally, and doing these things to kids and who is a wonderful human being that then risks his life in Bondi beach to take down two terrorists? Like, how do you help people separate so you don't develop this horrendous bias against Muslims.
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B
Most Germans were nice people I know during the conflict. And he took a minority. The. The majority, the peaceful ones, irrelevant. They're not going to stop it. So we can't play lottery with the future of the United States of America. You know, if you lose free speech. If you lose it, yeah, the world's lost it. That's how important American. When you voted for Donald Trump, I keep saying this. That wasn't a vote to save America. It's a vote. Save Western civilization. The ripple that's coming from your nation to ours, to all of us. You've given us hope. You've given us hope because we live under tyranny. We have no free speech. Lucy Connolly was a mother who received 31 months in prison for a tweet that she deleted after an hour. Then we talk about Russia. Russia's had 800 arrests last year for social media posts. We had 12,000. We had 12,000. And yet we're the. We're meant to be the. I've got the Magna Carta tattooed up here. We're meant to be land of Magna Carta, land of freedom. We are your values here. Every bit of your values were exported from Britain, and we've lost them all. You're lucky you got your constitution, Tommy.
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A
I cannot imagine what the hell you've been through and what the hell you're continuing to go through. I'm gonna put all of these links in here. Is there anything else that you would suggest people do?
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B
Yes. So, as I said, what we did was we formed an alliance of alternative media. That's the battle that's coming now. You don't have to agree on everything. You're a podcast host. You've got a big platform here. Lots of people. American culture, American identity, American safety. Is. Should be the values of everyone. And. And if those groups can work together. See, we had to work together. So we bought 15 of us. And then if we press a button now, we can reach a bigger audience than the BBC. Okay. So we had to fight back. And that's. And we organized ourselves in there. And they don't know what to do. They don't know what to do. They had. They've lost a monopoly of power because. But only because you voted for Donald Trump. Trump. So even those who don't like Donald Trump, if you still like freedom, you still like free speech. If you hadn't voted for Donald Trump, that you'd have been under the tyranny we're under.
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Oh, my God. This is. This has been an exceptionally chilling warning. I'm gonna watch Panorama.
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B
No, I called it Panadrama.
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Panadrama. I'm gonna watch Panadrama. I'm gonna link to all of it. And if I can be helpful, if there's. If there's any way I can be helpful.
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I think helpful is just these. These discussions. And I'll say to all viewers, get rid of Netflix, get rid of Amazon, and start supporting these independent channels all over your country. Doesn't matter. If you agree with all of them in sense, anyone with a live stream camera, anyone out on the street, you're bypassing the lies.
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A
Thank you so much for watching. If you enjoyed the podcast, please like comment, subscribe and share. And make sure to let me know what guests you want to see on in the future.