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Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
UNMASKING THE CRAZY: Sheriff Chad Bianco Pulls Back the Curtain on His Opponents
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Everyone in California knows that we're broken in most aspects of the state, and it's broken because of bad policy.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm not paying your taxes, boss.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
I'm eliminating state income tax. We are not going to pay state income tax.
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Jillian Michaels
Hold on. We've all seen the headlines highlighting California's collapse, but some of us have lived this, so this one is personal. California is facing a foundational crisis, not because we lack resources, but because corrupt politicians have made institutional failure a business model. So when Riverside Sheriff Chad Bianco announced his run for governor, he drew a line in the sand. Blow up the status quo by eliminating the state income tax, crush violent crime, defund the special interests thriving off the homelessness epidemic, and so much more. So on this episode, we're gonna pull back the curtain on the candidate, the criticisms, the machine he's fighting, and what it's really gonna take to save California for all of its residents. Right, left and center. Keeping it Real with Jillian Michaels. Sheriff Bianco, thank you so much for coming.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
You're welcome. I'm very, very happy to be here.
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Jillian Michaels
I have so many questions for you, and I think you probably know I'm a lifelong Californian who ran from my home, quite honestly because of Gavin Newsom.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah, we followed you. Denise and I have always been fans of you, and we followed your flight out of California, and it's part of the reason why I'm even doing this. All of the people that are leaving California, not because of California. California is amazing, beautiful. It's just horrific policy, horrific politics that's driving people out.
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Jillian Michaels
I have three friends that have left this year, and they were all under the pretense of it's going to get better, and in fact, it continues to get worse. And I want to address the people running against you and quite how insane I experienced them to be. But before we do, there is a scenario in California where it's entirely possible that two Republicans, yourself and Steve Hilton, could be the only viable options for people to vote on. And Gavin Newsom says that he has a break the glass scenario in the event this occurs. Can you take a look at this, please, Sheriff, and tell me what in the world you think he's talking about? Guys, can we pull up SOP4, please?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
You've spoken about accountability. Do you think Democrats will hold you accountable for standing by this principled neutrality by withholding your endorsement in this non possible scenario where two rough can take the ticket? Yeah, look, I. My. My focus has been making sure that doesn't happen. And I've Exercised not just a focus, but I've exercised through some action efforts to, to encourage that doesn't happen by making my case and, and will continue to make my case. I do not see that scenario taking place. I've said this before, so I'll repeat it. I don't anticipate this need to be the case, but there is a blank break the glass scenario. And I, there's many people that have a deep understanding of what it would look like if Democrats were locked out. And we're gonna do everything to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm not one of those many people. I have no deep understanding of what in the world he could be talking about. What is he talking about?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah, all we can do is guess because we're not in their inner circles. I think what it highlights to me when he said this is they don't care about the will of California, they don't care about the voters. They are going to do whatever it takes, an emergency, break the glass, do whatever it takes to, to maintain power. And I think for, we've been thinking about this for a while and there's been talk for several months when it, when it became apparent that, oh my gosh, two Republicans may go, may go to, to November and not a Democrat. And there was, there was talk amongst the Democrat strategists that they would, they would immediately after June 2 start raising money and collecting signatures for a recall effort to recall the next governor. And so right after swearing, you get served paperwork for a recall and then they plan that recall for the next June and hope that they get that Republican governor out. And the problem with that is, is I, I hope it wouldn't work anyway. But their thought process is historically Republicans won't come out and vote for that. They won't show up again right after an election to vote for a recall election. It's that whole demoralizing your vote doesn't matter, it doesn't count. We're going to cheat our way through to the end and maintain power anyway. And so they would hope that Republicans don't come out. And then in a recall effort, they believe that with a Republican and a Democrat that Democrats would win because it's California. So I mean, it would be great. I mean when, when you look at it, it's like two Republicans going, they think it's an emergency. Democrats do. But I think it's hooray for California. We saved ourselves from, from the disaster of this one party rule. But I, I think it's going to be hard for it. I don't think it's even going to be close to two Democrats, but it could be two Republicans. I think what would be best if it's me versus a Democrat, and then you win that outright, and then there's no chance for that ever to happen because the majority of California already spoke, and it was. This is the governor that we picked. So it a. A recall would be futile. You wouldn't be able to do it. So I. And that's a guess in what's. In their scheming little minds. Who knows?
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Jillian Michaels
To be honest, it's actually terrifying. And what's interesting is that this is not the party I used to belong to. Yeah, it isn't. I'm sorry. You know, in my YouTube comments, somebody said, you know, listen, you used to be one of those people that voted for those people. And I said, do you not recall when Kamala Harris claimed she was tough on crime? Does anybody. Do we forget when she. Listen, I'm not saying she's a fantastic candidate. I'm simply saying she's done a 180 with her positions. This was also a state that voted in Schwarzenegger and celebrated him. He wasn't perfect, but he evolved as a governor, and he ended up doing a pretty good job. And he worked across party lines all the time. And he was the one that made it impossible to gerrymander the state. Right up until Gavin Newsom gerrymandered the state.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Right. Yeah. When he was here, there are a lot of people that criticized him, and they say he did great in his first four years and not so great in the second four. But government actually worked how it's supposed to work. You're supposed to be working back and forth together to do best for the whole. It's certainly not supposed to be one party ideological agenda pushing that agenda on the rest of the state. That's. You leave people out. If you're making concessions between your ideas, then everybody benefits. And what we have seen, I mean, it started with Jerry Brown. It wasn't horrific.
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Jillian Michaels
Sure did.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
But it started with Jerry Brown. And then once Newsom got in here, it was just. It's like they closed the. Jerry closed the coffin. And then Gavin has been putting the nails in. And I think the problem for their party and for their agenda is, I mean, you talking about them leaving. It's not your party. That's not the party you belong to. They've gone so far off the rails under the belief that people are just going to vote Democrat anyway. They're just automatically going to vote Democrat that they didn't realize that common sense and just regular normal people don't want this. They don't want what's being forced on them. And they see that it's crazy and they're just saying, that's not me. I don't want any part of it. That's why I, that's why so many people on both sides are now no party preference. They don't want to be associated with either party. And they're, they're saying that the majority of California is from the Democrat side. There are more people leaving Democrat going no party preference because they don't want to go to the Republican side. But it's, it's just showing that we're, they are, they really are a minority, but they rely on voting Democrat no matter what.
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Jillian Michaels
They are on the wrong side of every frickin 80, 20 issue. Yeah, it is mind boggling. And I thought for sure that when Trump won there would be this attitude adjustment of moving back towards the middle. Not only did we not move back towards the middle, I would argue that the three Democratic candidates in the lead you are running against are the most ideologically insane that I have yet to experience. So I'd like to show you a few clips. I'd like to start with Xavier Bechera, former head of hhs, previously obviously holding Kennedy's position. And I was familiar with him because of that. Some of his most radical positions were removing age restriction on sex changes for children. SOT number three. Here he is getting grilled about that right now.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
You would withhold hospital grants from states like mine that ban transgender sex reassignment surgeries for minors? I mean, that's what the report says. Clearly we will protect the rights of any individual to receive the health care they're entitled to. And we will take action against anyone who tries to discriminate. So that's a, that's a yes. And I want to ask you the same question I asked Secretary Cardona the other week. Do you support polling federal funds, federal school lunch benefits from schools that refuse to comply with your definition of gender identity? Withholding school lunches from kid, from kids in schools that won't recognize the definitions?
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Jillian Michaels
Can't say no.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Congress and I would not hold anyone to the standard of having to uphold my definitions. I would hold them to a standard that protects what the rights of. It's pretty clear what you believe the, the, the report says so mad Madam Chair, I both pray one day that the history books look back and realize how crazy one of One of the things that bothers me about him is. And if you go back in time and father his long career. Yeah, he talks like that a lot. And even in the debates we saw, I mean, even the other Democrats were very frustrated with him because he would never answer a question a simple yes or no.
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Jillian Michaels
Yep.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And he would Wordsmith it to me. Well, what did he say? What did he mean? But when you talk about this, when he is going that far to say he's going to keep them from getting food.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Kids. Unless you. Yes, that's.
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Jillian Michaels
It's evil.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And can I say, is evil. Especially a child. We are supposed to be protecting children.
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Jillian Michaels
I mean, it is evil on the front end and it's evil on the back end. It's evil because as the head of hhs, you should have looked at the hundreds of studies and if you didn't bother to look at them, Hillary Cass from the UK did look at them and did the preeminent work on this. And after she came out with her research, the UK stopped doing gender affirming care. Sweden, Norway, Finland, all of these countries stopped. The AMA stopped recommending it for kids under 18. The American plastic Surgeons association stopped recommending it for kids under 18. Like it's, it's evil.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It is.
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Jillian Michaels
And then you're now going to say if these states don't accept the terminology of what HHS claims they have to regarding gender affirming care, they're going to starve the other kids in the school.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. Yes. And, and one of the things that really bothers me too, about what he use, what he says and, and how they use words and is he called that healthcare.
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Jillian Michaels
Right.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
That is not healthcare. Not even close to healthcare. And it's exactly what you said. It's the crazy and the completely far, far, far, far distance they have traveled from mainstream America and even the Democrat Party.
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Jillian Michaels
I got another one for you. A few things. He's notorious for this one, actually, I'm just going to read to you. I don't have a clip of it. It's from a New York Times investigation. I'm sure you're well aware of it. I've seen it being debated. But the best part is this guy claims that it's a Trump MAGA lie. Yes, it's from a New York Times investigation. So ultimately, while he was head of HHS Biden, the Biden administration wanted him to clear out the border shelters and streamline the release process of immigrants. But because so many unaccompanied kids were sent over the border they ended up literally rushing children out of the shelters and handing them over to predators, which is how we lost tens of thousands of kids. And there's a line supposedly that he gave. So here we go. Under intense political pressure to eliminate the optics of kids in cages and crowded border shelters, HHS drastically accelerated the process of releasing children to adult sponsors that were not vetted. Internal recordings and memos later revealed that Bechera explicitly pushed staff to move children with machine like efficiency, telling them, quote, this is not how you do an assembly line referencing Harry Ford. Okay. The New York Times investigation and an inspector general audit revealed HHS ignored vetting procedures of these adults, taking possession of these kids, losing contract with tens of thousands of children who ended up in illegal child labor rings. And I could go on to say what that means, but it quite literally gets my episode flagged. So I'm pretty sure that people can figure it out. These are just drops in the bucket for this guy.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yes. His entire political life has been this. He was a horrific attorney General here. He went on to do horrific things at the national level and now he wants to be the governor. He will never answer any questions. He is shrouded amidst controversy, fraud, unethicalness and things like that. And one of the things that bothers me, especially on this stage with debating people and everything else and knowing what they've said in the past, with my line of work, my career is about everything is about honesty. But we are the. I have the only career, law enforcement, the only career imaginable that you can think of that if you lie, whether you're off duty or on duty, you get fired. And so that's my life. It's, you just got to be truthful. You got to tell the truth. And when I'm up here with these people, and especially Becerra, he lies consistently all the time. You know, if he is describing something, he's probably being dishonest about it. And that's what drives me the most crazy dealing in politics, especially in this statewide running for governor, that they can all be so dishonest and try and manipulate people with choice of words or walking around a subject without answering. Raises your blood pressure, even if you don't have blood pressure, I imagine, or high blood pressure.
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Jillian Michaels
I feel this way all the time. Even in this line of work when I see pundits and podcasters put out fake and false information. And the problem is people take it as gospel. That's now their trusted source of news and they believe it. Like, I'll give you a Random example, there's an absolute lunatic named Sam Cedar who read a JAMA study which claimed that like only 950 kids or something like that had been given puberty blockers and cross sex hormones. The study was only of 5 million kids and only on private insurance. That's it, that's all. And there were so many gaps and problems with the study, but he says it as though that's the answer, never says anything wrong with it, and then basically turns around, he goes, you see how crazy, you see how they're making a mountain out of a molehill. Meanwhile, they're making quite literally hundreds of millions of dollars prescribing these drugs off label for gender affirming care globally. Like it's complete lie and a fallacy, but people believe it.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. And one of the things that he did, even in the, the, the clip that you showed me is this is when you, when you are able to get someone into an emotional state and an emotional argument, you don't think rationally anymore because you're, you're too involved. You're emotionally involved, so you're not thinking peripheral. Yeah. And when, during the debates and especially during this one and with this topic, when he says it was, it's a Trump MAGA lie, so instantly for the Democrat Party, I mean, that's really all he's going after right now. And it's, it, he's trying to woo other people away from those other candidates and they're not going to, if this is an issue. But if he's able to convince them that it's, it's all a lie and it was a Trump lie, then their hatred for Trump is like, oh my gosh, Trump is the only one that said that.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And the, even the other Democrats that were on the stage with him, trying to get him to admit to it, they couldn't pull that away from those people that were listening to get them to believe it because they were too wrapped up in the. Trump said it, it was a MAGA thing.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And they didn't even believe the Democrats that were saying it wasn't it. It is, it's, it's so unfortunate that, that we are able. Not we, it's that we, we have been manipulated so much by just disingenuous, dishonest people. Manipulating, manipulating fact or manipulating their, their words or avoiding responsibility.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And it's like, oh my gosh, how much more can we take?
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Jillian Michaels
I just don't know. I don't know. Everyone keeps asking me, why does California do it over and over and over again. And the only thing that I can really get to the bottom of, I've even seen it with Spencer Pratt, is like, never trumpers MAGA. MAGA's become the ultimate pejorative because MAGA is now a collection of slurs. Oh, you're a transphobe. They've got new ones. Terf. I never heard this one before. Which means it's like, I guess, a fancy way of saying you're a transphobe, you're a racist, you're this, you're that all fall now under the umbrella of maga. And I think that Californians just. You're right. They hear that. Plus, I was speaking to a behavioral specialist about this, and he was saying that people will defend their identity before they will be able to listen to facts. So I am a Democrat. Not. I like this Democrat policy. I am a Democrat.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And it's just so dangerous because they, they lose the ability to listen. I. I want to move on to Katie Porter. Okay, so let's do. Sorry, this is not funny. I laugh when I get uncomfortable because it's so upsetting. Let's do SOT number two, guys. Let's talk policy for a second before we talk character.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding health care for undocumented immigrants statewide? Yes. Yes. And that's, by the way, what I
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Jillian Michaels
think Californians deserve as answers to these questions. Alex.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And for critics who say that we can't afford it.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, we can't afford it. I actually did a whole thing on this. It cost us 8 1/2 billion dollars. It costs almost 3 billion more than they anticipated. And the state does not have a surplus.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. It makes. And here's what bothers me about it.
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Jillian Michaels
What?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
My kids don't have free health care. My kids friends don't have free health care. You don't have free health care. I don't get free health care. I pay through the teeth for my health care. All of us pay through the nose for our health care in California, but yet they're going to give it to people who have come into this country illegally when we have no money to do it.
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Jillian Michaels
I know.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So it's. The only way that happens is they take more money from us to give it to people who entered the country illegally. The thought process, it's one of those things where they're. They're going after a base of voters that it just at the expense of everybody else in California. And I, I don't understand how they even think that is something that they should even be proud to even say that they're supporting because it's empathetic.
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Jillian Michaels
So it gives you a moral high ground. But the tremendous irony, because I've been in conversations with these deeply empathetic people and I'm like, what have you done policy wise to reform immigration? What have you done? Nothing.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, yeah?
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Jillian Michaels
What do you know about it? Nothing. I actually work for the United Nations Refugee Agency. I understand it. I've tried to lobby for policy reform. I brought a child over from Haiti legally. It took me two and a half years. I support her. I give her a great life and she will be a contributing member of society. This is not the way. So it's. It's like that argument of moral authority. While simultaneously, by the way, they're trying to clear the way for people who are here illegally to vote in local elections, like for mayor.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Mm.
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Jillian Michaels
And nobody seems to see the bait and switch here. It is staggering. I. I also want to show you a few more things before we get into your position on this one because you've been criticized for suggesting that people who are here illegally should have a path to citizenship. I personally agree with you. But I want to talk about that. But before we do, I want to continue to litigate. We'll come back to this. For anybody watching. Why didn't she ask? I'm going to ask. I want to show you a little bit on Katie Porter's character, which I'm sure you're well aware of. But for anybody in the audience who does not. Can we see the Katie Porter freak out sot, please? I can't believe that anyone wants to talk about my temperament state could lose. Get out of my fucking shot. Oh, yes. This is why I didn't want to. I need the lights off. I'm saying I'm going to try to
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
win every vote I can.
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Jillian Michaels
And what I'm saying to you is that, well, to those voters. Okay, so, so you. I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you. You're not going to do the. Oh, no. Keep watching. Not with seven follow question you ask. Every other candidate has answered our follow ups. I don't care. I. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you ask me about every issue on this list and if every question you're going to make up a follow up question, then we're never
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
going to get there and we're just
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Jillian Michaels
going to circle around. I am an investigative. Had to do this before ever. You've never had to have conversation to end an interview. Okay, but every other candidate has done this. What part of I'm me, I'm running for governor because I'm a leader. So I am going to make. So you're not going to answer questions from reporters. Okay, why don't we go through. I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's my job as a journalist. But I will go through and ask these. And if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer. So nearly every legislative. I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you. And I don't want this all on camera. I don't want to have it on camera. It's all on camera. I would love to. It's all on camera. It goes on. Okay, we can kill that. I need to read you this. In spring of 2006. This is the X. This is. These are court documents that my team pulled. I made mashed potatoes for dinner. Our oldest child, Luke, was sitting next to me in his high chair as I was getting him ready for dinner. Petitioner looked at the potatoes, meaning her porter looked at the potatoes in the ceramic bowl and yelled at me. Can't you read the effing instructions? She took the ceramic bowl of steaming hot potatoes and dumped it on my head, burning my scalp. I am concerned for my safety and the safety of our children. Petitioners behavior has only gotten more unpredictable and unstable with outbursts of anger and abuse. They've all increased. Okay, then he goes on. I'm seeking a temporary restraining order. A restraining order against petitioner for her pattern of unhealthy and abusive behavior. Petitioner has extreme anger. She has a history of snapping and screaming at myself and the children. Petitioner constantly berates me in front of the kids, uses profanity, calls me, you effing idiot, you're effing incompetent. She would not let me have a cell phone because she said I was too effing dumb to operate it. I mean, she. This goes on and on and on. It's actually deeply disturbing. How dysfunctional.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
This cannot happen.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So not only this, that we're learning this, but we've watched it and we've seen it. And even after this happened, before that debate, we were backstage and that was the CNN debate, so it was the one before that. It was put on by college kids. They'd never done anything like this before. It was a huge deal, all of us back there. And so backstage there are kids that are lining us and I say kids, they're. They're 20 years old.
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Jillian Michaels
I know exactly what you mean. I say the same thing.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So there was this. This young girl, and she. So sweet. She was. She was enamored that we were there. You could tell she was, you know, lining us up. That was her job, was to line us up to go out on stage. So she lines us all up, and she gets to Katie, and Katie was talking. So she said. She said, miss Porter, you're next. And Katie didn't say anything. And I'm watching this, and she says, miss Porter. And she turns around and looks at this young girl and says, we've got it figured out. And she's like, I'm sorry. And so. And then she goes back talking, and the little girl just walked past, and I stopped her, and I said, hey, you're doing a great job. Thank you. And she's like, oh, thanks. And then she just went on. But that's who she really is.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And then she comes out on the stage, and she wants the cameras to think that she's this. Whatever it is she's trying to portray. And it's. It's amazing to me. It's amazing to me. What is in that. Yeah, that's who she really is.
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Jillian Michaels
Well, honestly, listen, nobody is perfect. I'm a child of divorce. I have been divorced. You will never find this kind of paperwork in my. We. Me and my ex. My ex and I, we settled amicably. We share our children.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. Just be good parents.
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Jillian Michaels
We don't have a perfect relationship, but it's a decent. Pretty decent one. We respect each other. We cooperate with one another. Like, for this to get so dysfunctional. It says a ton. And even if it's like, well, he's dysfunctional. The ex husband. Yes. But like, water seeks its own level.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, absolutely.
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Jillian Michaels
Like, this is a huge red flag.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
But what he described. We've now seen her on video doing the same thing.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes. I. I need to litigate one more. We could be here all day with all three of these candidates. I just picked some of the things that I hoped would break through to a person who doesn't like Republicans and thinks it's like, the ultimate evil. Tom Steyer, Listen, you can not like ice. You can feel strongly about ice, not like them, but you. You cannot imprison federal law enforcement officers. So, please, SOT number one team. ICE is a criminal organization operating in California.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Steyer's immigration platform, published today on Substack How California Can Put ICE in jail. It details that the state must stand up to the federal government and Quote, fight fire with fire, taking on ice. Quote the same way we took on the mob. We have a criminal organization insisting that it has a right to to be a criminal organization.
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Jillian Michaels
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Okay, well, he's a lunatic.
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Jillian Michaels
He's a lunatic. Either you're an idiot and you don't know about the supremacy clause or you do know about it and you're just like stoking the fires. And this is the same game we've seen with all Trump's secret police. Oh, they're the Gestapo. Oh, they're scooping up black and brown people and deporting them willy nilly. When in fact the statistics show us that there were more mistakes under Obama's administration than Trump's and they deported millions more than the Trump administration. I'll get back to that. There's more here that I just want to touch upon. He pays tiktokers for endorsements like Harris. Oh, yeah, hundreds of Thousands. He's poured 200 million into this campaign, making it the most expensive in California history. He pushes aggressive regulation on tech, but his brother runs a lobbying group. And then it's like, oh, no. But we want, we lobbied against restrictions for Big tech and how they go after our kids. But they take money from Big Tech and they work in partnership with Big Tech. And the last thing I'm going to say on this and then we could probably transition to your policies is that he wants aggressive regulation on oil. That's why California has gas that's $2 more expensive than anywhere else.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And that's the only reason in the country. Yeah. Yeah. He, he honestly is a lunatic. When you talk to him in person, he seems like a, he seems like a very. You, you could get along with him backstage. He's easy to talk to, easy to get along with. But when he sits on that stage and he says what he plans on doing with California, he's an absolute lunatic. That, I mean, anyone, anyone that says ICE is a criminal organization, there is something very, very, very wrong with you. You are, you said it. I mean, it's either you're an idiot or you're evil in that you're trying to convince someone that something isn't true.
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Jillian Michaels
That's how people die.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Absolutely. And the whole thing with ice, it's personal to me because of the law enforcement thing, but it should be personal to all of us in California, the issues that they have with ice, why they hate ICE is the things we've seen on TV with them arresting people and deporting them, whatever the case may be. That doesn't happen in non sanctuary state cities or states. It's only in sanctuary state policies. And this will kind of, I hope for people that are listening or watching it's by Design. In 2017 in California, when they made sanctuary state, we told the governor at the time, law enforcement leaders told the governor at the time and told the legislature, if you pass these laws and you're going to force criminals back out into the community. And then ice, which has forever arrested people who are in the country illegally, but they do it from jails, you're going to force them into our cities and then other people who may not be criminals are going to get wrapped up in it. And they basically said, we don't care. Yeah. And they passed the law and now we have what we have today. So it's almost like they created this environment on purpose, knowing that they were going to use it later politically. While back to what you were saying, what have you done to change the immigration policies? Absolutely nothing. No, they don't want to change the federal policies because they can use things like this for their own political benefit.
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Jillian Michaels
Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Please check out my new interview series. We'll do it live. Each Thursday, I sit down with the most influential people in America. We're a no spin chat, no script. Anything could happen. You can find. We'll do it live live on Billor.com YouTube or wherever you download your podcast. So let's address this. California obviously has a ton of people who are in the country illegally. My entire life having grown up here, I've been very sympathetic to both the cause of a refugee and both the cause of economic migrants. But that does not mean you break the law. You jump the line. It doesn't work. And if I could just. If I could just say it's not good for people who are here illegally. They get taken advantage of. They get abused. They did not cross the Darien gap to be your maid. That is not their greatest ambition in life. It creates shadow economies. It's how children get trafficked. It takes jobs away from Americans. And it does. I'm sorry, but it does. And at the end of the day, it's bad for people who are citizens. It overruns the infrastructure, and it's bad for people who are here illegally. I'm for reform. I am. I want a path to citizenship for good people. And I am well aware that when people are here legally, they stimulate the economy. They start more small businesses than citizens do. Their kids do better in school, and I think they run the vast majority of Fortune 500 companies. Immigrants are the children of immigrants. Immigrants. But it's how you do it. How are. What do you do here in California?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
What do you do? Well, the only thing we can do is we have to get rid of the state policy on sanctuary state. We have to allow those. Those people who are in the country illegally, who are also committing crimes and victimizing us and get into jail. We have to allow the sheriffs to actually cooperate with ICE to make sure that they are deported. We can't keep letting them back out into society to victimize them. And I'm glad you brought up because you mentioned when you were talking about the ones that are in this country illegally, they're easily victimized. And that has been my position on this from the very beginning. And trying to explain to people, we in law enforcement. I've been doing this 33 years as a deputy, starting in 1993, all the way up until I became the sheriff. Never once did I concern myself with whether or not someone was in the country illegally or legally. You're either a victim or you're a suspect. And the problem that law enforcement has is everyone that's coming from all of these other countries, whether it's legal or not, they have corrupt law enforcement. So we have to get into these communities and build that relationship with them so they know that we Aren't your corrupt law enforcement that you came from? We are different here. We are here to help you. You have to cooperate with us. We, we are making your life better here. And it's, it, it's an ongoing battle because there's always new people coming in. The problem with sanctuary state and what's happening right now is that the politicians are making people in the country illegally believe that they should be afraid of law enforcement. They should be afraid of not just immigration, but law enforcement. And this is the worst thing that can happen. This is why, this is one of the things I get criticized for because it says that my deputies won't work with ice. My deputies have never worked with ice. I've never worked with ICE as a deputy sheriff on patrol and neither has any police officer. And we can never have them working with ice because the biggest fear, my issue as the sheriff, what I can never have in my county, is a 13 year old girl who is repeatedly raped under the threat of if you tell anyone, you or your family are going to be deported. What we have to have is that little girl has to be able to see a uniform and run to that uniform and know that she's going to be protected. And we know now that with all of this horrific propaganda that is being spewed by politicians, the immigrant community, whether they're illegal or not, the immigrant communities are not reporting crime anymore because they're afraid of law enforcement coming into investigating these crimes. And they know that there are people that are there that may not be there legally and they're afraid of them being deported. And that can never happen. And it didn't happen. None of that ever happened up until 2017. Before that, immigration did its job every single year from the jails. Everything was fine. And that's what we have to get back to. We can't have black and whites, the people who are patrolling our cities, keeping us safe. They have never been involved in immigration and they can't be. That's not our role. The federal government's role is immigration enforcement.
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Jillian Michaels
And you don't impede that is what you're saying.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And you definitely don't impede that. We don't interfere with them. Right, but we don't help them either. Me as the sheriff, I will help them all day long in the jail, in the safety and security of a jail, come in and get these criminals and make sure that we save our community by deporting them back to the country that they came from because they didn't come here to make a better life for themselves. They came here to take advantage of us and our system, and they are victimizing us. So they, not only are they here illegally, they're victimizing us while they're here. They have to go back. And there's. That's, that's the only relationship that local law enforcement can have with the federal government. Outside of that, the federal government needs to change and fix and amend our immigration system. And they have to make it right. It is broken. It's been broken for 50 years and no one, no one is even moving to fix it.
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Jillian Michaels
That's just because it's a political football on both sides.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And when I say that, it pops into my head. There is a. I think she's from Florida, either Florida or Texas.
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Jillian Michaels
Salazar. Yeah, I know.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And so that is a. That is a common sense dignity bill fix and solution that anyone with a heart.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Should be jumping on board saying, that's a good idea.
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Jillian Michaels
I've written to my Congress people. I've actually tried to help them. I've invited her to come on. And for some reason she hasn't taken the help, which I found a little strange. It's a Democrat from Texas and Republican from Florida. I followed the legislation very closely. No one talks about it. Sheriff. Yeah, no one talks about it.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
They supposedly, I've been told that they have bipartisan support in Congress and they believe there's enough. It's just, they can't. They're not moving it forward. Which it's. Why is it. Is it because people is bad? Politicians know that. It's a, it's a tool for them in their election seasons. I don't know. I don't know.
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Jillian Michaels
I think maybe. Which is so sad. On the, on the path or. Sorry, on the topic of amnesty, how would you handle the people that are already here? I mean, obviously, like I said, I grew up here.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
I know quite a few people who are not here legally. All tremendous people who are even trying to find a path to citizenship.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Right. So that was.
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Jillian Michaels
Can't. I've even tried to help three of them.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. I have two.
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Jillian Michaels
I can't figure out how to help. I've hired the lawyers, I've paid the fit. But it's like once you cross over 20 years ago and you have two kids in the military, by the way, it's like they can't.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. Well, it's. Even people trying to do the right thing aren't able to. That's what I'm talking about. I have, I have two friends that they're 1520 years they're here legally trying to get citizenship, and it's just getting pushed and denied and pushed and denied. And they have kids, they have jobs, they've been paying taxes, and they're. They're actually professional athletes and they are not being made citizens and they're being threatened with deportation. And it's like, what are they. And so they say in the conversations, like, what are we gonna. What am I gonna do with my wife and kids?
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It's like, I'm gonna be kicked out of the country. I got my wife and kids. It's crazy. It's crazy that we're talking about this, that the federal government is not fixing it, because you can't tell me that you have friends. I have friends. I know other people that have friends that I don't know. So we all know. It seems like we know somebody that is trying to go through the process legally and it's almost non existent. I mean, I have an easy solution. Get rid of all the tax, the IRS agents, make them immigration agents, and start processing all of these things, but process all the applications, get through these people. I mean, there would, there would be an easy way to fix it. You identify the problem and then just fix it. Don't talk about it, don't kick it down the road, just fix it. And we could. You get to that point where I don't think we want to. The problem that we have right now, especially for me running, is the governor can do nothing. I know the governor. The immigration is explicitly the sole responsibility of the federal government, and the state can do nothing about it. It's their role, it's their responsibility, and it should be. That's how it should be. So I couldn't fix it even if I wanted to, but I could be loud. I could. I mean, we have a very large list of congressmen and women in Washington that even in California, they're not doing anything to solve this. We have the largest contingency of congressmen and women in Washington, and ours are doing nothing to move this forward. It just shows they don't want to, but yet they're all arguing about it and they're fighting about it, using it as a tool to get people to come to their side during these voting processes in election seasons. And it just shows the disingenuous of the person that they know they could have done this a long time ago or moved the needle at least, and they haven't even tried.
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Jillian Michaels
What appeals to me so much about you and your approach is you hold all of the nuance. And you can communicate it. Okay. You know, we can't get involved on the federal level, and here's why. We're also not gonna block ice. And this is how we need to handle the people that are criminals. And this is how you treat people who are here illegally. Humanely. But all of that nuance is so important. Whereas, yeah, there are a lot of people that came over recently. That's what I like about Dignity Bill. If you. If it hasn't been over five years, you're just automatically gone. No, go back, start over. Do it the right way. If you've been here 20 years and you've got two kids in the military and you've been paying your taxes, like, all right, let's adjudicate that. Let's look at this. Can you contribute to society? Have you been contributing to society? Dignity Bill covers all of that. There's the nuance. And I appreciate that so much about your approach. Let's get into some of the things that I think Californians are fleeing the state over, because that is not one of those issues. It is homelessness and crime. Homelessness. Have some stats for you here that I want to bring up. Okay. According to HUD, California is home to nearly 30% of the nation's entire homeless population. Nearly 70% of them are unsheltered, which means living on the streets in vehicles and encampments. We've poured billions, notoriously, upwards of 24 billion, into the housing first doctrine and NGOs, and the problem has only continued to grow. Now, myself and people like me in particular, Dr. Drew Pinsky, who's fantastic in his assessment of this situation, because this is what he does. He deals with mental illness. He deals with drug addiction. You know, it's. It's a. It's a. It's the homelessness industrial complex.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It is. It is weird. This is probably going to be. It'll. It'll take a little bit of time, but I'm telling you, less than two years. I will eliminate what you see on the streets, under the bridges, in the parks, on the sidewalks. We will no longer see that two years within two years, because we have to stop calling it homeless. It's not about homes. Every single one of those people weren't born out on the sidewalk. They all had a home that they are no longer at. They have family that they are no longer with, and they are no longer with them because of drugs and alcohol. Mental illness, combination of both. 90% at a minimum. The DEA says it's even higher. But what we see on the street, it is easily, easily, easily nine out of ten. And some cops will tell you it's every single one, every single one of them are on drugs. We have to start calling it for what it is. And then we. We treat it for what it is. So it's not giving them a house. And this is one of the things that I said in the debates because Mahan is so proud that they build a bunch of shacks and move these people from their tents into a shack. You did nothing other than relocate them. They are still suffering from drug and alcohol mental health, combination of both. You did nothing other than make yourself feel better. We have to treat them for the conditions that they have. And then when you do, then you can get them to back to the families in the homes that they already have. This is not about homes. And when you call it homes lures us in to feel sorry for somebody that doesn't have a place to live.
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Jillian Michaels
Yep.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And then. So you just think we need to give them a place to live. Well, that's not the issue. So you. But what it does is it makes it okay for you to funnel all of this money into it, because that's what Newsom says. He said it repeatedly. He's given more to the homeless than any governor in California's history. Well, if you go talk to the homeless, they've received absolutely nothing. They're sitting on the streets and they have nothing. And they tell you, they say, the guy that owns that building has money. The guy that owns that building has money. We see them all the time. The contractors that come in, they all have money, but we're not getting anything. It's a homeless industrial complex that's laundering all of this money. People are getting rich off of it. Cities and counties are plugging their budgets with homeless money. And so they don't want to solve the problem. If they eliminate what we see on the streets as the homeless, then all of that money dries up. And no one wants that money drying up. So you as the governor, I will end it on day one. There will be no money, no more money going out. And then we will identify the places that actually were doing a service. There will be a few people that come forward and say, you can't take my money away from me. Because look what you're going to do. You're going cause these 20 people, these 60 people to immediately be put back out on the street. Well, they'll get their money back immediately. The thousands upon thousands of nos and nonprofits that don't come asking for their money back. We need these funds. Those are the ones that are stealing it in the first place.
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Jillian Michaels
Right.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And those are the ones we have to go after and arrest and seize their property that they, that they embezzled that money they were supposed to be using for the homeless. And we're going to get our money back, some of it at least. But what you do is you take a very small fraction. We don't have the capacity to treat them. We do. We don't have enough drug and alcohol treatment centers. We don't have enough mental health treatment centers. And here's the big one. And this was government caused. We don't have any facility available or even the ability to treat mental health and drug and alcohol addiction at the same time. They actually, before they made drugs legal in California, they made it to where you couldn't treat drugs and alcohol and mental illness at the same time.
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Jillian Michaels
Why?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Because they created this on purpose. If, if you, that's a way, if I am going to look at it like that, because in my world, you look at why something makes sense. If it doesn't make sense, then you got to figure out why. So I, we have to admit that the people making these laws and the people coming up with this, they're not dumb people.
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Jillian Michaels
Right?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
They're. They didn't. It wasn't. Oh my gosh, you're kidding me. I did that? Oh, no. They knew exactly what they were doing. So they, they create an environment that you can't treat mental illness and drug and alcohol at the same time. And then you legalize drugs. Well, we absolutely know that drugs, if you have a mental illness, drugs are going to exacerbate that. If you just use drugs and alcohol, that's going to create your psychosis, mental illness problem. So if a law enforcement officer finds somebody that this is the only way we treat someone is when they hit rock bottom and they say, I want help. Because we ask them every single time we contact them, can we get you some help? And they always say no. But when they say yes, you take them into a facility and then in the intake process, it's okay. This is a drug and alcohol facility. Have you ever been treated for mental illness? Yes. Okay, you're out the door because we can't treat the two together. It's on purpose. We have to immediately get that law repealed. Then a fraction of the money that's going into this industrial complex, we fund mental health treatment centers, we fund drug and alcohol treatment centers, and we give these people the health, the Care, the compassion that they deserve, whether in the people that say, ah, it's drugs, they did it to themselves. You're not a good person if that's what you say. Everyone can make a mistake. No one is perfect. And just because it's drugs, yeah, they chose the drugs, but they didn't choose this. And if we can help them get out of it, they can be a productive member of society again. They can go back and take care of the families that they once had or be a party of that family that they once had. And that's what we should be doing. Because look what, look what the way we're going now, look what it's giving us. Downtown Los Angeles has 50 square blocks of people living on the sidewalk. 50 square blocks. And because they gave it a name and they call it skid row, we're just supposed to accept that. I don't accept that cops are the only people and then people that are trying to do good and trying to help volunteer and things like that. But we are the only ones talking to these people. We're the only ones trying to get them out of the place that they're in. And we know that they have to agree to it or we can't help them. And that's somewhat the position that we're in. We can't take them to jail anymore because they made drugs legal in California. So we can't. That was an option before, before 2014. If you're under the influence of drugs or if you're selling drugs, if you have drugs on your person, we take you to jail, you're going to go to court and then the judge would always give you the option. Do you want rehab or do you want to stay in jail? And it's up to the person the majority of time they took rehab. And in my world it's like, great, I don't want you in jail. Take the rehab. Hopefully this is the last time we see you again. Get yourself clean, sober and you're going to be fine. But Prop 47 took that away. So now there's nothing, there's no consequence. There's no way for me to even try and get that person help. So we, a little bit, we fix that with Prop 36. But now we need, we need the facilities to send them to. We have to have a place to send them and then you have to have judges that are actually going to abide by the new rules of Prop 36. We just came up with a just some numbers from Prop 36 just in my county Alone, it's only been a year and a half since Prop 36 was passed.
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Jillian Michaels
Newsom won't fund it, though. Correct.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It's not funded.
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Jillian Michaels
So we're not explaining to people who don't know what Prop 36 is.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yes.
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Jillian Michaels
Will you tell them exactly what that is? And then I am under the impression Newsom refuses to fund it.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yes. So Prop 36 was a fix for the bad parts, the two big bad parts of Prop 47. And the fix is we can prosecute you for drugs or get you into rehab. So we're going to give you that option again, which was taken away by 47. And then the theft part is different. The theft part is we're actually going to hold you accountable for stealing again. Yep. Because Prop 46 made it to where it was almost impossible.
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Jillian Michaels
Right.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So Prop 36 was affixed to the bad parts of Prop 47, but we need funding to provide capacity in drug and alcohol treatment centers, mental health treatment centers, and then on the theft side, we actually need. We need more judges, we need more courtrooms. We have to have the ability to send them through court, and then even some funding for jails to house those people that are committing those thefts, to get rid of the revolving door. Prop 36 would have made a massive, massive, massive difference in California. And Prop 36, technically, maybe a little bit slower than my idea of fixing the homeless, but Prop 36 would have made massive improvements of what we see in the homeless industrial complex with the people living on the streets, because we could have brought them in and forced them into the rehab and the mental health care. And we're not allowed to do that now because Newsom and the legislature will not direct any money into that. And, I mean, it's a shame. He's claiming in this new budget for next year that he just proposed the revised budget, that there's more money than they thought they have, and they have a little surplus and they're going to add things to something else, and they still did not give any money to Prop 36. It's. It's. It's horrific that we can see what we see on the streets. We know how to fix it. Yeah. And we're just not doing it.
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Jillian Michaels
He. He knows exactly what he's doing.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, yes.
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Jillian Michaels
That's. That's how I feel about the fires. I'm like, there's no way you're this stupid.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
No.
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Jillian Michaels
There are two things generally that will start the fire, not exacerbated, and accelerate it again. Lifelong California. I get the Santa Ana Winds. And I will even like one up ya. And I'll give you climate change. There's your card. Have no idea. I'm gonna say yes. 100. So now that you have a problem of Santa Ana winds and climate change, wouldn't this be the moment, fire after fire after fire, where entire communities of your state go down, that you mitigate what starts the fires like meth heads on the street, quite literally. I'm sorry, but quite literally. And 100-year-old infrastructure from the utility companies. I lost my home over a $10 hook that PG&E refused to replace that was 80 plus years old. Fund your fire department. Don't defund it. Fill your reservoirs. Practice forestry management. What do we do?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It's the forestry management. And it's the forestry management that is prevented by environmental activism. It prevents, through regulation, it prevents homeowners, it prevents fire departments from cleaning defensible space around properties, towns, buildings, whatever the case may be. It prevents them from doing burns in the off season when there are no winds. And I'll take you just back a little bit to what you were saying. It's California. We have fires every single year. That's not something new throughout history. We're not having more fires. The fires are more intense because there's more fuel in the mountains. There's, we no longer manage our forests. Logging was, was kicked out of the state by activism. So environmental activists removed logging from the state. So now our forests are overgrown for decades and decades and decades. The brush around Southern California mountains. How we lost the Palisades. It's not forest, but it's, it's massive brush. And it grows every single year quickly. I mean, we're beautiful here for a month of green as it's all growing and then it all dies.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
And the fire department knows that they should be creating defensible space, but they have to get permits that take one to three years to get. It's, it's, it's, it's an environment that the insurance companies knew was coming. We know for a fact now because the big ones have all come together and they've said, look, we met with your governor, five years, for the last five years, telling him that if he didn't change his policies, we were going to leave because you're going to lose big cities and we can't afford to, we can't afford to cover them. And he said he didn't care. And so they left. And then we have the Palisades. And it's not like anybody didn't see it coming. We all knew it was coming. The fire departments knew it was coming. It was just a matter of time before we've already lost small towns in the north part of the state that just get ignored. But now this one is a massive, massive city with million dollar homes. It was a big deal. I mean 13,000 homes, that's a massive, massive fire. But it was preventable. Not because of water, not because of lack of firemen, its lack of prevention and lack of care being put in the surroundings to make sure they could stop it when it got there. And then you have combined with the fires. Most of our fires are being started by PG&E and SCE and homeless people. Our fires are like. We just had two massive ones in Riverside. It's from homeless camps in our river bottom. I mean it happens every single year. We know it's going to happen. And you just don't know how bad it's going to be. Especially because we do have Santa Ana winds and how bad are they going to be and how is it going to be the perfect storm of when the fire starts and how fast it goes and then we're going to lose more houses. So if as the governor, which I will do, but if we would just remove the regulations from the fire department and even incentivize homeowners not to fortify their house so it doesn't burn down, clean their property so there's a place to defend your home from that fire when it gets there so it doesn't go right up next to your house and then catch your house on fire. And we prevent people from doing that. You can't protect your house by cleaning out the hill around you. And I'm not talking about making it bare also, I'm just talking about getting rid of old brush so the fuel is not so intense that you can't put out the fire. I, when I was a deputy, you can't fathom this. Your brain won't fathom how this happens because you can't even process it because you know how big a fire hose is. You know you can, one person can barely hold that fire hose when that water is coming out. And it is massive pressure and gallons per minute, massive amounts of water. And there was a fire. I was what we, we had evacuated the neighborhood. I'm standing there watching them try and put it out and they've got the water, it's going toward the house and in midair, 3/4 of the way to the house, it just disappears. So you've got all of this water coming out, that just disappears before it hits the fire because the fire is so hot, it evaporates the water before it gets there. It's crazy. Your brain can't even fathom it. And that's what we have with these fires. The fires are so hot because they have so much fuel. Then if the winds are perfect, it's going to be spread faster and made hotter. And then you can't put them out even if you wanted to. And that's the environment that we're in. So if you allow fire departments to clean this defensible space around properties, around cities, around towns, do burns in the off season, every other state does them. Why?
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Jillian Michaels
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
was a kid, we did. Used to.
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Jillian Michaels
You used to get punished if you didn't practice fuel mitigation.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
You would get fined. I remember my parents used to do it. I lived in the San Fernando Valley.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yes. Environmental activism took that away.
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Jillian Michaels
That's madness. And the fact that the freaking fire in Palisades was like started on the 1st or 2nd January, and they were not alone.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It was out. The fire was out. It should have the. The second part of it. Should have never fired, I think. I think. Or should have never happened. I think the first one was even called different. It wasn't the palace.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It was something different. And then environmental activism prevented that. Would not allow them to go in and stamp out that fire, which happens every single fire. I mean, it's amazing to me, you know, we, we have big fires in our mountains. The fire is all gone. But it's weeks. The fire department is there for weeks going through that and stamping out hotspots. They're carrying in water. They've got their shovels in their rakes and everything. Else where they're making sure that it's not going to start again if or when the winds come up. And they were prevented that day from doing that. And then the winds came and started again, and then we lost.
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Jillian Michaels
The rage that I have because I've lived it. You know, it's interesting because people hear it from Spencer Pratt, bless his heart. I'm like, bro, you're seven years late. I did this seven years ago.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
You know, like, this has been going on every year. It's. It's fascinating to watch people wake up to this once. It.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
That's what their lives. So with the Palisades, the. Interesting for me, what it really showed me, because I didn't know this at the time that this was possible. I knew why. I've known all along that CEQA and the Coastal Commission and environmental activism is what prevents fire from doing this. So when it happened, I think the. It's a perfect storm of everyone waking up and being angry that normally wouldn't happen. It was a massive fire. There are too many. There were too many victims. But you have a governor that technically could have prevented it. He didn't cause it, but he certainly didn't prevent it. He knew it was going to happen. He vetoed for management. Yes, he did. And he's running for president. And so when it happened, he had to run there because the majority of Palisades residents are registered Democrats and they're wealthy and they contribute to campaigns. So he had to rush in there and calm them down because they were livid, not because they lost their house. That was part of it. But the wealthy people found out that they couldn't even go back and clean up their property even though they had money. They couldn't rebuild even though they had money. Yeah, they were prevented by the government, by the state government. So Newsom went into the Palisades and quietly, but to them said, I'm going to suspend all these regulations that are preventing that from happening, so you guys can go ahead and start going through the process. When he did that, I was like, well, great, because you should have done that. But then it was like, well, wait a minute. Those same regulations are hurting everybody else, too. Why don't you just suspend them for everybody so we can all benefit from it? And that is when it showed me I do have the power as governor to end all of this just by getting rid of the regulatory environment. Everything that is a regulation, the governor can end.
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Jillian Michaels
I don't think he wants to, and
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
I. I don't either.
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Jillian Michaels
I've got. I won't do this to you. But in my own mind, I won't shellack this interview with conspiracy theories. But at this point, I'm like, there's just no universe. You're this incompetent.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
There's just. Just none crime. Another thing that people are done. They're done. And I have done it. I've had cars stolen numerous times now. I've had my home broken into Newsom, let the guy out during COVID Even though there were studies that showed us that prisoners were actually safer in jail than they were on the streets from COVID So let's. I've got a few statistics for you on crime. According to Public Policy Institute of Southern California, shoplifting has increased by 48% since before the pandemic. Okay. Proposition 47, we talked about. Aggravated assault is up by 23%. You've got a 12% jump in weapon. Weapon specific assaults surging significantly on police officers.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Okay.
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Jillian Michaels
In your county, though, you recently logged a 10% drop in violent crime and an impressive 7. 16.9% reduction. I was gonna say 17%, but I simply refuse to be totally unbiased. 16.9% reduction in property. In property crime. So why are. Why are you able to do this in Riverside? And. And yet Los Angeles, San Francisco, all of these other cities have just completely descended into absolute decay. And I'll give you this one is just so wackadoodle. Dandy. I've mentioned it on the show several times because it exemplifies Los Angeles in a nutshell. A man had his arm chopped off by a machete a few weeks ago outside of the Whole Foods in Venice, and it was the third attack there in the week. But we can't have guns, though, so.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So we have.
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Jillian Michaels
Help me understand, what do we do here? A.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
There may be other people that are the same, but there certainly is not going to be a more proactive law enforcement than Riverside Sheriff's Office. I have repeatedly told my deputies that we have a policy of a relentless pursuit of criminals. We will make sure that if you are victimizing people in Riverside county, we're going to eventually find you. If we don't find you when you did it, we will eventually find you and you will eventually be held accountable. And it's known. I mean, my favorite part, my favorite example of this is I had a pursuit that happened that started in Riverside county, and it went from Riverside to San Diego, back to Riverside, San Bernardino, into Orange county, into LA county before we finally ended it. And it was Almost five hours long. And during that process, during that pursuit, one of the helicopters, the news helicopters overhead, they were talking about how long it had been going on. And the helicopter pilot, as they're talking to him, the helicopter pilot says, I wish someone could just get to the driver and tell him that that's Riverside Sheriff's office that's chasing him and they're not going to stop. And to me, that was good. Even the news knows, even the news knows. Criminals know it. We're not going to give up. And that, that addressing those quality of life issues and this is not, this was not, I didn't come up with this. This is way back in. It's called a, it's called the broken window theory of community policing. And when you address little tiny issues, it doesn't progress into something bigger. So if you fix the broken window, then nobody can go inside. And now you don't have criminals living inside. And whatever happens, that's the idea of broken windows. And it was, I believe it was New York or Chicago or something where it started.
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Jillian Michaels
Giuliani maybe.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah, it could have been. Okay, it could have been. And Bratton, Bratton and Giuliani possibly. And so that law enforcement knows that. But you also have to get like, nobody's going to tell me I can't do it. Police departments, their politicians can tell them they can't do it and they can direct the actions of law enforcement. But for me, the people elected me to provide them quality law enforcement. So we decide what we're going to do. And that's what it was. It's relentless pursuit of criminals, quality of life issues and we address everything. It doesn't matter how big, it doesn't matter how small. That's your quality of life. And that's what we're going to address. And that's why we have seen success. We even had to when I took over. There's. There's so many nuances in California, why crime is getting worse. Criminals are enabled, it's a revolving door so they know there's not a consequence. So they just keep doing more and more. Drugs are a massive, massive cause of the problem. I started telling this and this is important. Since Prop 36, Prop 36 was only a year and a half ago. We have had over 1600 people that have been arrested for three drug offenses since Prop 36. In a year and a half, they've been arrested for three drug offenses. And then after they had to have been. We're trying to get statistics. After the third arrest, 50% of them went on to commit a violent crime. Of course, 70% of them committed a property crime. And that's after their third arrest for drugs. We have a massive, massive problem with drugs in this state. We've made it legal. And that is causing the rest of issues to happen too. In, in our world, in the law enforcement world, the majority of crimes, even domestic violence, involve drugs and alcohol. Murders, gangs, theft. Everything has a nuance or it comes back to there's a common denominator somewhere in there that drugs are involved. And our state has completely gone off the rails and eliminated that enforcement, eliminated the consequence for drug use or drug sales or anything else. And we have to get back to it. We have to actually start prosecuting for drug crimes. We have to get people to help so they stop using these drugs and then they're not going to commit the violent crimes and the property crimes afterward. But when you have, when criminals know, and this is like raising your kids, if you know there's going to be a consequence if the child, if he gets a spat on the hand for grabbing something he's not supposed to grab, they're not going to grab that anymore because they know there was a consequence. And adults are the same way. If they're going to get put in jail, it'll eventually stop them from committing those crimes. Everyone in California knows that we're broken in most aspects of the state. And it's broken because of bad policy. It's bad policy in Sacramento. It's not. I mean, you didn't break your situation in California. You didn't have a say so in it. Cops aren't broken, teachers aren't broken, Business owners aren't broken. There's 40 million people in this state, but it's run by 130 people in Sacramento. And it's their policies that are harming all of us. And that's all we have to do. So the only thing broken is our pickers. We keep picking the wrong people to send to Sacramento and we just. We've got to start thinking different. I honestly do believe that in this campaign people have had enough. You even see it. And I'll even use Spencer as an example. Spencer is just talking common sense, though. But the following that he is getting. You think he's catching up? I mean, I wish, I wish he would have done this 10 months ago, a year ago, because he was certainly talking about it. He was certainly talking about the. How bad it was there. But he, I think he just waited too long. But we're. He's gonna Go. He's gonna make it to November. He's gonna be, it's probably going to be him against Bass in November. And I think that's going to be plenty of time for, for him to. Yeah, I, I really do. But it's showing that people in California have had enough. And I really do think it started in Covid and it just, people started thinking, you know, the government's not taking care of us. They're actually doing a lot of things wrong. But then it just started snowballing where people are realizing, just like you did, and they're, they're to the point where they had to leave or they're thinking about leaving. And a lot of people now are like, I don't want to leave. I mean, one of the, one of my flags that I have not to plug my campaign, but it's a bianco for. It's a bianco for governor campaign or flag. But on the bottom it says, because I don't want to leave, I don't want to leave California. And I'm going to fight to make sure that my kids and my grandkids don't have to leave either. And I think there are so many people in California, both sides of the aisle, party wise, that are just saying, we've had enough.
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Jillian Michaels
Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. I see it in the red states because they get upset. They're like, you, you guys made a mess over there. You better not come over here and vote.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And when I moved to Miami because I left in 21 and I moved to Miami, I was there for three years. I had to move to Wyoming to be closer to LA because of some stuff with older parents and things of that nature. So I need to be like two hours away and get in and get out if I needed to. But having said that, my friends who are Democrats are bailing, not just the people that are conservatives. And it's everything, it's insane. Taxes you pay the most, you get the least. Gas is $2 more per gallon. It's everything we talked about. The insurance companies pulled out because you froze their ability to raise rates and you refused fire mitigation and you're going to.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
The government can't cause a business to go bankrupt, so the business left. You're not going to allow us to raise rates at all, even though we did. I mean, a lot of people are complaining, especially now about the rates, but before we had some of the lowest rates in the country and the state wouldn't allow them to raise it to Cover cost of mitigation for when houses were lost and then the big fires and that's all they did. It's private business. We can pack up and leave. And that was one of the things I said in the debate where they were talking about how they're going to get these insurance companies when they come back. They're going to allow them to do this. And I said it in the debate. They aren't coming back.
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Jillian Michaels
Nope.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
They're not coming back until the environment changes here. And it's not going to change with those people on that stage.
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Jillian Michaels
Idiocy. I see it now. Even in Wyoming, we could not get insurance on our house because we live in a bit of a wooded area. Not a bit. We live in a wooded area. And I had one agent from State Farm that fought and fought and fought and fought and fought for me. And we met. We had to like, oh my God. I had to put a cement perimeter on the whole. And shingles and cut down every freaking tree and the thing and the thing and it was a, a nightmare. And every other insurance company has left the state and that's Wyoming. They are doing every single thing that they possibly can to entice people to stick around. These guys are out of there, man. They are out. They're out of California, they're out of Florida. But. But I've lived under Newsom and I've lived under Desantis. You want to talk about night and day? Oh my gosh. It is staggering. I've lived it, I've experienced it. And I just don't think people appreciate the significance of the role.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
How important. I've watched my state fall apart. And it did start with Jerry Brown and I even remember when he put a retroactive tax of almost 4%. Half my friends left then they were like, wait a second, you're retroactively taxing me 4%? I'm done. I stuck around cuz I was like, no, this is home. It doesn't get better than this. And then Newsome with the robberies and the crime and the freaking homeless problem and the fires and Covid single handedly. I was like, I cannot live under the. I cannot live under this man's leadership. I refuse to do it. I want to address something specific. I actually love this so much. The Oath Keepers. So you have taken, I guess, some crap from the left about this. I did some homework on this. So just let me know if I'm getting this wrong. So I think you were like, you were a member in 2014. First tell me. Your affiliation with the Oath Keeper organization?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah, it was. So I found them online and it was, it was playing online and in law enforcement world and everything else. And you, when you, we know now that when you start doing certain things, then other things come at you and that's, that's how they find you. So I found them, I don't know how, through probably constitutional sheriffs or something like that, but looking into, into the organization, it's like, well, that's pretty cool. Military and cops that value their first responders. Yeah, yeah. And it's a, the, the oath that we swear is to defend our country, defend our Constitution against all enemies. That's. That's truly what it is. And it's a, for me, a very patriotic thing. It's like, yes, I, I value that oath that I took.
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Jillian Michaels
I'm gonna read it, by the way. I, I was like, I'm gonna dig into this. I'm gonna make sure I know everything about this. I want to sign up for the Oath Keepers. Not a law enforcement person. Okay, so there's 10 orders that you'll not obey as a law enforcement officer. So number one, we will not obey any order to disarm the American people. So I don't know, is that an emphasis on the Second Amendment?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Exactly. Okay, so that's. That the whole, the whole premise is you're defending the Constitution. So it's all parts of the Constitution, even law enforcement. I mean, there's that. I mean, I don't want to say I don't like them, but there are. The Fourth Amendment is what prevents you from me from violating your right to search and seizure. So I mean, for a cop, I mean, it's like, yeah, it'd be great if I could just go up and search everybody and, and find all the criminals. But that's not how the law works. That's not how the Constitution was put into place. So good cops who value your oath know that you honor the entire Constitution. Every single one of our amendments. They are unbelievably important. The Bill of Rights is the most important part of our conversation or of our Constitution. So it's. That right there is the second Amendment. We, we are going to honor and value the second Amendment.
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Jillian Michaels
God forbid you didn't. We will not obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people. Fourth Amendment, as you mentioned, we will not obey any order to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or subject them to trial by military tribunal. A direct reaction to post 911 laws like the Patriot Patriot Act. And the NDAA provisions, this rule asserts that all U.S. citizens must retain their right to a standard civilian trial by a jury of their peers. Amazing. We will not obey orders to impose martial law or a state of emergency on a state without the express consent of that state's legislature. And governor,
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
that interesting in that, in that one right there in Covid.
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Jillian Michaels
Yep.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So it was a, it was a governor's order. It was not a law. And I was very vocal and said, if you want to make it a law, then just tell the legislature to make it a law. And then we would have to obey it because then it would be the law. I would be breaking the law if I didn't. And they didn't because they didn't want to be held accountable for violating your rights, basically. And so that particular one is why I ended up being the first law enforcement leader in the country to stand up and say, we aren't doing that here. And it goes right along with that.
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Jillian Michaels
That.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So go ahead. Sorry.
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Jillian Michaels
Incredible. Okay. We will not obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty. If a state government formally declares that the federal government has broken its constitutional compact and asserts nullification, this rule commands members to refuse to assist a federal military crackdown on that state. Number six. We will not obey any order to blockade American cities, turning them into concentration camps. These are verbatim. I'm not, this is not me like interpreting what this means. I mean, one would hope not. And the best part is that it's like, oh, this is a far right conspiracy theory of mass urban lockdowns. Well, what do you care? If it's a conspiracy theory, then you never need to worry about it. But the people caring. This is my favorite part. I'm just going to jump ahead. Or the Southern Poverty Law center, who have now been exposed for funding the handful of racists that they could find and going after the people.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. So I, I, this is my cop brain of why things don't make sense. You got to figure out why. So we know that back around that time is during the Obama years, when Obama is, is when the tide started turning against police. And it's, it's progressed since then. So when you have an organization that is vowing to honor everyone's constitutional rights despite what the government is doing. So it, there is nothing in there. You know, they say that we, that I'm, that I don't like government. I'm an extremist that doesn't like, that's against government. I'm actually for Government.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, you're a purist.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Exactly. And it's what I'm, what I'm not for is anyone that's doing anything against the Constitution. And if that's socialism, communism, that is against our Constitution, if it is the federal government imposing itself on my county residents, or even if you're a cop in your city residence that is outside of the Constitution or the state's laws and constitution, then we're not going to abide by that. That's not a real government. That's not what government is supposed to be allowed to do. So all that is is a group of law enforcement and military who had previously sworn an oath, whether it's for your law enforcement oath or for your military oath, that you will always value your oath and you will always protect people from tyranny, basically, or our Constitution from being attacked or destroyed. And this is insane. Where it came to a head in this and why Oath Keepers is now bad is because southern part of the poverty law center said they were bad. But the only reason they said they were bad, they found a way to make cops in military who value the oath in the Constitution and that will defend the, defend residents from the federal government if they're, if they're imposing is nine is January 6th. So three of the people who were arrested in January 6th also had former ties to this to Oath Keepers organization. So they labeled everyone, of course that had anything to do with that organization. It must be a right wing extremist group that's anti government. And whatever it is, you're horrible. You're a right wing extremist. And. And then the narrative just progressed.
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Jillian Michaels
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah, this, this campaign has been unreal.
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Jillian Michaels
Like, oh, one said, oh, he's a far right. And then the people who are just regular conservatives are like, he's not conservative enough.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, yeah, he's it. Oh, yeah, he's a rhino. He's an extremist maga.
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Jillian Michaels
Yes.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
We have to. I, Denise and I have been saying this all along. Well, I must be the right person because nobody's happy. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's attacking me, so I must be the guy that's best for California.
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Jillian Michaels
That's so true. So, okay, blm. Did you guys take a knee with BLM or not?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Technically, yes. We prayed.
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Jillian Michaels
Okay. I actually watched that, I'll be honest.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So it was. That was an interesting day. And it was actually an interesting three days leading up to it, four days, because we knew it was coming. It started in la. It didn't start in Riverside. It was, it was all across the country, big cities. But then it spread from there. And so the, the two days in la. Then we started getting the intel from LA sheriff that had them, some of them in jail because they were intercepting either conversations or whatever it was that it was going to happen in Riverside. And they gave us a date. So now we had to be looking out for it. We knew it was coming to our city. And Denise and I were. This is going to be a long story. No, I'm going to keep it short though. So Denise and I were watching the news of LA on fire. And the worst thing that, that we saw, there were two people coming out of a department store window onto the sidewalk carrying, they were looting the store. And the news camera pans down and they, the two ran right by two cops. And I told Denise, I said that is not, if that happens here, that is not going to happen here. We will not allow that to happen. So then we get word that they're, that they're coming. And then it was a legitimate protest. They actually got a permit to protest. And as much as I am anti their movement, that was an anti cop movement. And but it's also, I'm there for, to save and to protect their constitutional right to protest. So we have to keep them safe, we have to allow them to do it. But I met with the protesters, the, the organizers and we told them the ground rules and I told them there's going to be no looting, there's going to be no fighting, there's going to be no rock throwing, bottle throwing. Then the moment there is, we are going to end it quickly and it, it, we will use overwhelming force and it may be violent. And they're like, okay, we get it, we're not going to do that. But then they also are like, well we, we can't control everybody in the crowd. I'm like, it's always as long as we know the ground rules. And in my office, when we were doing this, when we were going over the ground rules and what they were going to do, what they were going to be allowed to do when they left, left, they knew who I was. They know that I'm outward with my faith and I, I don't hide that from anyone. And one of them was actually applying to be a deputy and then the other, it was the, not the one that was applying to be a deputy, but the other one said, hey, you know, we know you pray. Do you mind if we pray? So we prayed right there and it was just, everything goes well, everything and it's all good. So then they leave. Then the protest day comes and I've got 900 cops because I was not going to allow it to go wrong. 900 deputies and then 300 other law enforcement officers from different agencies. So we had about 1200 cops. There was about 10,000 protesters. So I was right there all day long. I wasn't in my office. I wasn't at home. I was right there with them all day long between the line of deputies and the crowd, or I was in the crowd right there, making sure that we were protecting them, but also that it wasn't going to get crazy. We were going to protect the businesses and the downtown residents and everything else. So in the end, it was getting toward dark, and I'm standing there, and I watch a bottle fly over my head, and it hits where the deputies are behind me. And so I told the protest, the organizers. I'm like, okay, you guys saw that. You were. We made eye contact right when it went over, and I said, okay, we're done now. And they're like, okay, we get it. And they thanked me for the professional of the. Of the deputies, for what I allowed them to do. We actually allowed them to go past curfew because they were just. They were protesting, they weren't violent, and so everything was done. But then he said, we know where all the bad is going to come from. They told us where weapons were hidden, cache of weapons were hidden, what was going to be used against us, what the people were dressed like that were. That were doing it. And then he said, he's like, we know this is going to get ugly. Can we pray for your deputies? I said, absolutely. And so I asked some deputies if they wanted to pray, they could pray. They asked the crowd, some of them said yes. Some of them were like, f. Bianco, you know, he's a murderer, you know, whatever the case may be. But we prayed. It was quick. Pray for the deputies, nobody gets hurt. For the protesters that stay there, whatever. And then it. Then they leave. If there was a bad part for me, in hindsight, I wouldn't have done it. But I stay. No, not that I would have done that, but I stayed there and let a news reporter interview me.
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Jillian Michaels
Oh, yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
So she's like, hey, can I ask you some questions? And I just stayed there and answered her questions. But I would never change it. I know why I prayed. I know what we did. It obviously worked. I had no deputies hurt. We didn't even have protesters hurt. But the whole thing about it is, is when. When. When people are saying that I did this, how does it make sense if I kneel for blm, within solidarity, whatever the case may be?
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Jillian Michaels
They rolled down on the knee, right?
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Were they kneeling? To me, it's like, no, we were praying.
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Jillian Michaels
I actually remember this moment, and it was actually Considered like a moment of
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
solidarity for the protesters.
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Jillian Michaels
It was like, I. I know the pain you're talking about. It wasn't about. I remember the moment. And I was a very different person. The world was a very different person. The movement started out very differently. I remember when, like, DeRay McKesson was running it after cops in Long island strangled out Eric Garner over selling loose cigarettes. Very different time.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And we all identified with that kind of pain that is generational pain. And it's like, I remember it, and it was at the moment like they asked to take a knee with them. I remember watching it, to be honest, and it was. Everyone took a knee together. It was actually considered like an act of solidarity in coming together. It wasn't. We're bending a knee to you. It wasn't. We're going to let you run amok. I remember it, and it was, as far as I can recall, I don't remember what happened in other parts of the Steed, but it was by far the least chaotic.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, yeah, because I was here. It got a little bit violent that night. I mean, I got hit with a screwdriver that was about this big. And, I mean, luckily I saw it coming and I was able to jump out of the way, so I took it on a bounce. So it just kind of, like hit the ground and then bounced off of me. But they were throwing rocks, frozen water bottles, industrial fireworks that were getting shot at us. But we didn't have any reported injuries from protesters. No deputies got hurt. We had no businesses that were damaged, no nothing. I mean, we broke that. We broke a window of a car because we didn't know what they. We found. We found a massive amount of fireworks in a car that was just parked on the street that they were going to use, but we got them out of there before they could use it. So then we came to another car and we couldn't get in it. Windows are all blacked out. So we broke the window to see what was inside. I mean, that was. That was the only damage from the whole event. But what it.
- [96:29]
Jillian Michaels
I know we broke a window. I'm really sorry.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
I know, but. But then they never came back. And the funny thing is, is when. With the no Kings rally now, it's the same organizers, it's the same people, the same network that it's just keeping going. And when the no Kings in LA last year, and then they're coming to Riverside, they start planning their events in Riverside. The organizers of those events started posting in those forums. Hey, you're Going to Riverside county, we can't protect you there. That's Sheriff Bianco. Wow. Don't. If you're going to go there, don't go near any county buildings, don't go in county controlled sheriff's office controlled cities and don't go, don't approach anyone with a green and tan uniform on. And they just didn't come. So we, we didn't allow them to run amok.
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Jillian Michaels
Right.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
We allowed them to protest. There was never going to be any violence after.
- [97:27]
Jillian Michaels
There were some good people in those protests.
- [97:30]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
I had my friends, I mean one of them.
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Jillian Michaels
I was going to tell you, my formerly liberal friends were out there. Yeah, it was the, there was a whole different faction.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
It was, it was very surreal.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
Being a cop and knowing that what the, what could happen that where everyone around me. The night before it was in San Bernardino. There were shots being fired at cops and everything else. Bystanders, not cops, but someone got, I mean it was, they were violent. And so knowing that that could possibly happen to ours. And I have, I'm seeing my friends out there, people from church, my son in law's sister, he's a cop and his sister was in the group. And it's like it was just a very, it was an odd, weird, surreal feeling watching all of this happen. It was a different time.
- [98:24]
Jillian Michaels
One of the things that I think also appeals to me so much about you as a candidate is that you've done it, you've been there, you've seen it. And I think about this a lot because so many people think that I must have some ambition to run for mayor or somewhere or something. I'm like, I would rather be dead.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
I will stop you from doing it.
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Jillian Michaels
Yeah, I know, man. But they think that that's for some reason. But what I find so funny about the suggestion is not the fact that I would rather be dead than have them drag me and my entire family through the mud, but the fact that like what makes you think I'm qualified
- [99:00]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
to do that job as I'm sitting
- [99:03]
Jillian Michaels
here listening to you, Sheriff? Because I watch this a lot and I try to learn about it when we comment on it. And I'm also a part of Dave Rubin show and I go on other shows. So every time before I do, if there's a topic and policies I want to learn the policies I want to understand and oh my God. Oh, we can only have so many prisoners in this jail. And we can only. It's. It's insane how complicated and nuanced and how Many things need to be, I don't want to say manipulated, but quite literally, like, I can't. The judges are going to block you, and then the NGOs are going to come out and they're going to smear you. And then there's a. I can already see all the steps ahead. Like, you go, you pull out the rug from under these NGOs, and they're going to blame you for a million people dying. I just watched it on usaid. I've seen the exact same playbook on usaid. I'm like, oh, that's what they're gonna do to you. But the fact that you have people running with no true. I mean, honestly, no true experience and the most radical ideology is a terrifying combination.
- [100:09]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. And I've said that repeatedly during the debates is I am offering you something different than what's on this stage. What's on this stage is Steyer is just a crazy billionaire that wants to buy his way into it, and then the rest of them are just career politicians. That the same mentality of what's brought us here today.
- [100:36]
Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
They've dealt with none of it.
- [100:37]
Jillian Michaels
Zero. None of them have lived it. They haven't lived any part of it.
- [100:41]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
And I'm going to blow your mind a little bit because I'm going to make you have to start thinking a little bit different on why you should run for office. Is what, What's. You don't have to, but what's missing. What's missing from politics is you're gonna have to go back now and re. Watch the last four minutes of what you were saying. That is what's missing from politics. The person that sits down and says, there are so many different nuances and we have to do all of this and we have to take this into account. No one approaches it like that. No one approaches it to do something outside of their own agenda for someone else to fix something that's broken. That's not why people are getting into politics. I support the people who are missing. Well, that's okay.
- [101:31]
Jillian Michaels
I want to support the people that do that.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
That's okay.
- [101:34]
Jillian Michaels
I want to elevate their profile. I, you know, I, I, and I want to approach. Appreciate them as a citizen.
- [101:42]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah. So I, I think it, it was crazy for us and it. Ultimately, for me, it was, it was, it had to be. Denise had to say yes first, and then my kids had to say yes because we knew what was going to be coming. We knew the. There's, I mean, they, I'm not, I'm Certainly not perfect. Denise will tell you I'm not perfect, but there's certainly nothing in my background that has any. Any negative influence on me not being the governor. Certainly nothing. Not for being the sheriff. I'm very ethical, very moral. And. And the. The one thing about cops, especially if you spend 33 years getting here and then even reach my level, the integrity, the leadership and the honesty is it. It's. It's irrefutable. You can't say I've done anything wrong, unethical, immoral, anything. Oh, they will. But the beautiful part is we know it's a lie. So the kids just had to know it was coming. Denise knew it was coming anyway. She. She's been involved in. In my races before. So that's just. It's an ugly part of politics. But in the end, it's because I'm not that. The. I'm not the politics. I'm not those people that you saw on stage. I'm exactly opposite them. I'm actually doing it for California. They're doing. Everybody up there was doing it for their political party. They were doing it for either their personal. Personal agendas. A lot of them. They stopped doing it because I want to say that I've changed this election, being in it, because I've changed how they've been talking all along. There was in the beginning, for the first three or four months, all of the Democrats, they all wanted to be the first. The first Hispanic, the first lesbian.
- [103:27]
Jillian Michaels
Oh, God.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
The first female, the first Pacific Islander, the first. I mean, it was Asian. It was all of these firsts that had nothing to do with anything. And I said, how about. I said, that's all they want to be. I just want to be the first leader. How about we do that? Just make me the first leader. So all of them stopped saying it.
- [103:51]
Jillian Michaels
I hate it so much. Much I hate it. I am the generation that did away with labels.
- [103:58]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
- [103:59]
Jillian Michaels
We worked so hard to get rid of that crap, and now they bring it all back. I covered the astronaut. I feel like his name was Glover. God, I hope I'm not butchering. This happened to be. It's relevant to the story, a black astronaut, but he was ridiculously, ridiculously accomplished. And instead it was like, what's it like to be the first black guy to do. And he goes, wouldn't it be awesome if it was just. I remember that human achievement. I. I thought, like, oh, my God.
- [104:33]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
- [104:33]
Jillian Michaels
You know, it was like a heaven for.
- [104:35]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
For me in what I do in law enforcement. There's A lot of things that. I mean, I'm not saying law enforcement is perfect. We, we're on Worst Enemy sometimes, and, but we're just, we hire from the human race, so we, we can't be perfect. We're. We're an imperfect organization that tries to be perfect. But my little microcosm of my 4,500 employees is California. It's every single race. It's male and female. It's transsexual. It's. And, and it's everything. Everything that you can think of, we have, and no one cares. To us, it's, are you a good person or you're not? Are you going to be a good partner or are you not? I mean, are you going to help or are you not? And that's all we care about. And why can't we get past that? No one says, oh, man, you're my, you're, you're, you're the best black partner I've ever had. It's just, you're the best partner I've ever had. And, and I, I wish that mentality. I wish we could get rid of all of the labels. And whether it's race or anything, those, those, the labels are killing us. And when we fight over the labels, that's why we fight.
- [105:45]
Jillian Michaels
They do it on purpose.
- [105:47]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
- [105:47]
Jillian Michaels
Final thought on this. I, I, My son started listening to the Fast Car remix of the Tracy Chapman song is like a country singer. And the joke, of course, is that he knows it is like a Luke Combs song. I know it is a Tracy Chapman song. So I'm on YouTube scrolling and I see them singing together at the Grammys. I somehow miss this. It's a couple years old. I don't know how I missed it. And it was the most beautiful collaboration. And I was like, this is so special. Like, this is what I like. A white country singer and a black female coming from two totally different walks of life coming together and making this beautiful music. Unbeknownst to me, I continue to scroll, and there's Megyn Kelly with Sage Steel. And I was like, oh, Sage was on Megan. I'm like, when did this happen? And they're commenting on it. It's from two years ago. I didn't realize that. And Megyn Kelly was like, look how beautiful this was. Or is. Because it was, it was at the time. And it had been attacked as him taking advantage of her as a black woman.
- [106:54]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
I don't know how I missed that.
- [106:56]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
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Jillian Michaels
And I thought, like, my God, this is on you bastards.
- [107:00]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yeah.
- [107:00]
Jillian Michaels
This is like a beautiful moment of unity.
- [107:03]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
And for both of them. Yep, for both of them. I mean, it revived her. People that have forgotten about her now wanted to go back to her music and see what she listened to her. And then for him, I mean, that was a great song, how he sang it and everything else. It was number one for him. And I mean, good for him. She loved it because now she's back singing it, and everybody knows it was her song anyway.
- [107:25]
Jillian Michaels
Yeah.
- [107:25]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
And they just. People just had to tear both of them down. They attacked both of them. She. I mean, they attack him. She sticks up for him. So she gets attacked. It's like, how.
- [107:35]
Jillian Michaels
I know.
- [107:36]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Sick.
- [107:37]
Jillian Michaels
Is there anything I should have asked you that I didn't know?
- [107:39]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, boy. I. There's. We could probably talk for hours. California. Yeah. No, maybe. Why? Why am I doing it? And I'll just. Then I'll just say, I know I'm going to win, and I'm not going to ever jump up and down and say that I turned the state red. I'm not going to ever bash Democrats. I'm doing this for Californians. I'm doing this for every Democrat, every independent, and every Republican. It's not just one of them, and I'm not going to leave out the other two. It's everyone. It's. Californians have been taken advantage of by disingenuous politicians for a long time, and the policies that they put in place hurt us. I just want to give the state back to Californians. I came here from a different state when I was 21 to make a life for myself. And unfortunately. Well, fortunately, I found it. I made it. I worked hard. It was achievable. And now I'm old and can retire. And it's great. But my kids don't have the same opportunity here that I had. They can't afford to buy a home. They can't afford gas. They can't afford groceries. They're looking to move out of state, even though they love it here. And I just want to make sure that my kids, my grandkids. Your kids, your grandkids all have that opportunity to be in California like I did. And the only reason they don't is because of the. Of the people we've put in Sacramento. And I'm gonna change that.
- [109:10]
Jillian Michaels
I could just say one last thing about that. What I found so distressing is that when there are candidates, I open the door to both sides. I do. The left side just doesn't show up. I tried to get Rahm Emanuel On. I've tried to get Josh Shapiro on and they don't show up. And honestly, the reason I tried to get them on is cause I'm like, oh, you seem reasonable. You seem moderate. I want two healthy parties. They won't show up for that. That's the best you're going to get, is that they may not actively attack people on the other side of the aisle, but they certainly don't want to represent you or communicate with you or listen to your needs. Then you've got the nuisance that is like, oh, my God, Republicans. And they have to remove all of their rights and all of their representation. And it's so filthy and it's so dirty and it's so divisive. And I often think in these little hypothetical worlds, like, even though this entire side may hate me, you still are like, I actually really care about you and I just want you to be okay.
- [110:15]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, yeah.
- [110:16]
Jillian Michaels
I just have a different idea of how to make it okay. But I think we share the same goals of making it okay. And I think you're the first person running for office that has actually said that. And I've had a lot on. And maybe that's why I just think you're so special. Sheriff, where can everybody go to donate to the campaign in California? It's not too late. What do we do? It's not too late.
- [110:42]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
It's definitely not too late. Ten days, I think, or nine days before the June election. Biancoforgovernor.com is the best, the easiest. And then every single social media platform is Sheriff Chad Bianco. Share all of the stuff on social media. You can donate online. We have events coming up that are indicated online. You can show up if you want. Still, we're going to do everything we can to make sure we take this all the way to the end and save our beautiful state. I'm going to bring you back.
- [111:12]
Jillian Michaels
I'm not paying your taxes, boss.
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Sheriff Chad Bianco
I'm going to eliminate taxes. You're not going to. The taxes. We didn't talk about that. I'm eliminating state income tax. We are not going to pay state income tax.
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Jillian Michaels
How did I miss that on your. Hold on.
- [111:25]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oh, yeah.
- [111:26]
Jillian Michaels
How are you going to fund everything?
- [111:28]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Oil, lithium and logging. Natural resources. We're going to stop buying oil from other countries, making them rich. We're going to stop buying electricity from other states and making them rich. Stop buying our wood products from Canada. We'll make ourselves rich. And Riverside, Imperial county has the largest lithium deposit in the entire world. That the state is preventing them from mining because they want us reliant upon China. And I will make sure that opens. We will benefit from California from that. And you eliminate all the waste, fraud and the abuse of the homeless, industrial complex, the medical. All of those things where we're wasting our money. Yes. And then income tax is going away.
- [112:11]
Jillian Michaels
God, please get elected. Please. Oh, God. Why are you saying.
- [112:14]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
See, I'm bringing you back.
- [112:15]
Jillian Michaels
I say 10 prayers. You're the governor. I. That could actually. I love Wyoming. I'll keep my house. I love the people, but man, I would. I would buy a house here again. Yeah, absolutely. Because those winters get long, dog.
- [112:27]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
Yes, they do. Yes, they do.
- [112:30]
Jillian Michaels
Thank you. So.
- [112:31]
Sheriff Chad Bianco
You're welcome. Thank you.
- [112:33]
Jillian Michaels
Thank you so much for watching. If you enjoyed the podcast, please, like, comment, subscribe and share and make sure to let me know what guests you want to see on in the future.