← Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels
WW3 INCOMING?! Rep. Anna Paulina Luna on Iran, Tucker Indictment, Epstein, Aliens
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Anna Paulina Luna
I think we have like a 14 favorability rating. Rightfully so. A lot of my colleagues are disappointments,
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Host
but today I'm gonna be hitting all the hot topics. Iran, Aliens, Epstein, voter id, Tucker Carlson, you name it, I'm gonna be asking her. So here we go. Keeping it Real with Jillian Michaels. Congresswoman, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Thank you so much for having me on. I'm looking forward to this for a while.
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Host
I've got so many questions for you. I'm gonna make a dealer's choice off the top. Okay, we've got Aliens, we've got Epstein, we've got voter ID in the Save Act. You've got Tucker Carlson and a criminal referral through a Foreign Agents act charge. And then of course, your thoughts on Iran. Where would you like to start?
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Anna Paulina Luna
Honestly, we can go wherever. There's never a slow news cycle in Washington, so I'm game. But I mean we can maybe start with the Epstein stuff because we've been obviously covering a lot there and then save America and then go from there on Epstein.
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Host
To be honest, this feels like it's done and it feels like no one's paid and nothing happened and we had a bit of a circus with the whole Clinton thing and that's it. It's like, okay, you know, the files are redacted. Like is there going to be more? Is any of this going to be unredacted? What is this done?
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Anna Paulina Luna
I don't think it's done. I've definitely suggested that the DOJ re. Re look at some of the please plea deals that some of these co conspirators were given because a lot of people don't realize. So like in some of it and actually have my handwritten notes here from the investigation. What people don't realize is a lot of the most egregious emails. Like I'll just kind of reference some of them in my notes. There was one that referenced a child age 11. There was one that was talking about a little girl dressed in a Snow White costume. There was another one. The littlest girl is an aughtiest. Another one of a little girl who was being mocked during prayer. All of those were actually sent by women. And these women were listed as co conspirators. They were as adults being coerced and paid. And I think at a certain point when you are still engaging in that and choosing to do the wrong thing, you then become a co conspirator. And so they were given plea deals and given victim status. I don't think that they're victims. I've talked to Chairman Comer and we will be bringing them in to testify. And I think that that should be a public testimony because why on earth would you ever think it's okay to traffic a minor, period? I don't think that they also too, a lot of them potentially have committed immigration fraud. They should frankly have their immigration status revoked and deported for what they did. But I don't think to say that there aren't people that can't be punished for this. I don't think that that's true. I think that there's definitely enough evidence. Not to mention. And people I think are now starting to pick up on it. But I mean, I was going through some of the documents, and there's literally not enough hours in the day to just have one person go through all of it, because there's tons of information. But even in going through some of the documents, I was able to find again, that very now publicly known alias that Jeffrey Epstein had, but it was a legitimate passport, said he was a Saudi Arabian. You know, he had a home in Saudi Arabia. You know, the question is, who did he work for? The CIA has denied that he worked for the agency. Then there's that famous photo of him with CIA boxes in the background. But I do think that he was foreign intelligence, and I say that because of the amount of honeypot operations that he was running, and then also to his ties. And so I think, you know, Jeffrey Epstein is going to go down in history as probably one of the biggest, most nefarious criminal networks, I think, ever. I think the question now is, though, is how do you bring justice? I had gone on the BBC right after they had arrested Prince Andrew, and the BBC said, well, we arrested Prince Andrew. And I said, yeah, well, but why didn't you guys do that when this came out years ago? Why did it take up until this point for you guys to then save face, to actually be able to do something about it? And so I do think that there are people that shouldn't be called in to testify. And I think that that's part of this process. But the comps itself doesn't actually hold punitive authority. That's at the Department of Justice. And so really, ultimately, it's up to them on how they're going to proceed. But I would 100%, and I have recommended that they basically start, if you will, task force, and they look at some of these plea deals and consider charging these people under human rights violations or civil rights statutes, because that operates outside of the statute of limitation.
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Host
I was also under the impression. Bill O'Reilly gave me this impression. He said, well, you can't go after people if there are no charges. And I didn't understand what he meant. And then later he explained to me that if there's a civil case, so if I'm a victim and I'm going after my perpetrator, civilly, there's a gag order, and you can buy my silence. I don't pursue you criminally. Well, that never sees the light of day. Is that part. Okay. Okay.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Well, so there's, There's. And remember when. So I sat in a room with a number of these Victims. And remember, not all victims were co conspirators. Like some of them were legitimately trafficked and awful things were done to them.
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Host
Right.
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Anna Paulina Luna
There's a big difference between those and the ones that were not doing the right thing and were basically engaging in criminal activity. But when we sat down with the victims and their attorneys, they told both the Democrat Republicans that we would receive names. We still have not received those names yet. A lot of the names that, especially the ones that I had listed that I was protected under, you know, the speech and debate clause to actually say when I was at the podium outside of the Chappaquiddick Performing Arts center when I was taking the Clintons depositions, those are names that I was able to find in the files that we knew were co conspirators. They took plea deals, they should not have been given, you know, the like sentencing if at all. And then they're giving, you know, victim status which is completely false. But then there was this aspect of at the time when you know, a lot of the press was coming to Washington D.C. and you saw kind of the initial rollout of the Epstein files. What was so curious and interesting to me about this is, you know, in January of this past year I was, you know, lighting up the doj. I'm like where are the files? And I was the only person in Congress doing this. And then you saw there was this kind of attempt to make it partisan. And then after that then you know, a lot of these people were saying hey we have or a lot of the victim's attorney said that they're being contacted by people that were potentially implicated and that they were looking to. The implication was to settle lawsuits. And so if you then settle then no one's ever going to talk. You're never going to get the names because again like you stated, there's the payout. And so there's also this aspect of the victims coming together to sue Deutsche bank because there was a failure on the banks bank's part to actually catch these transactions. And then I actually just saw before I came on your show that bank of America allegedly had settled. I think I saw that somewhere on xf. Just confirm it. But the point is, is that if you have those settlements and people aren't talking, then there's that. But you know, there's, there's a lot there and I think that it, it is an injustice the American people for certain people to get off and then others, if you're an average American to
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Host
get charged, gosh, okay, well that's Very telling. There are two elements of this that I think are the most fascinating. The first one you mentioned is intelligence. Everybody goes after Mossad. I wouldn't be surprised. There's the, the link of Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, supposedly being linked to Mossad. But it seemed like this guy arguably would be working with numerous intelligence agencies. Is that a possibility? Because you also have him in the files trying to get to Putin time and time and time again. So could it be Russia? Could it be the uk? Could it be the CIA? Could it be massage? Could it be all of them? And is that part of the reason, like, we're never going to get these answers because you have the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world saying, you're never going to know why we were pulling these levers?
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Anna Paulina Luna
Well, I think it's possible that he was an intel asset for sale and he dealt in, you know, his, his, his monetary gain. And what he's dealing with was blackmail. Right. But what we were told directly, because I actually asked this question to the attorneys of the victims and they were all there. I said, you know, to your knowledge, do you know who he was potentially tied to? I also asked, you know, a similar question to the Clintons, as in, like, did he press you on certain information? What were the conversations that were being had when he was around? Because in my opinion, if you have someone that's doing this and they're targeting, you know, the Secretary of state, former presidents, etc. That's an intel gathering operation. I want to know conversations are. But the attorney specifically stated that Jeffrey Epstein's bodyguard, I believe it was specifically had had for sure made comments that he was tied to ir, Russia and Israel. And then also, too, though you have
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Host
aspect of there being a sentence, Iran, Russia and Israel, like, oh, okay, where's the triangle?
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Anna Paulina Luna
Right? Like, who's actually running him? And I think it's possible that, you know, he obviously had interaction with our former director of the CIA under Bush. Apparently, according to the bodyguard, you know, this CIA director was meeting Jeffrey and they're passing notes back and forth when he was on his, you know, whatever his supervised day jail is what I call it, then he would go back home and, you know, continue to victimize people. But he was actually having correspondence then. And so whatever he was dealing with. And I also point this out. Back in February, I became aware of a whistleblower that came forward that said that there was evidence destruction specifically pertaining to the Epstein files under the former deputy director of the FBI. So this would have happened towards the tail end of I guess 2024, right? Yeah, to me. I mean I passed that over to the FBI and we've, you know that to me like you're talking about whatever we have is like not the full picture here. Then there was also reports that there was apparently a cyber attack in a. In like the New York facility that was actually housing a lot of the documentation. And I believe like terabytes of data were deleted. So I don't think that we ever will have the full picture of who Jeffrey Epstein was, if that was his even name. I mean we found an alias that was a legitimate passport where he was traveling in and out of France in the 80s with a totally different name. And it was Austrian. And so the fact is, is that he obviously was someone that was very well connected, had extensive blackmail operations. I think personally he was a very dark person. You can see that from the correspondence etc. He was obviously using an effort though to get blackmail or information or hold people in compromising positions, extortions, whatever it might be. But I don't think that we'll ever know the full extent of it because I think that we're probably not dealing with the full deck cards here.
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Of course, on the second piece, obviously people have gone all the way down the rabbit hole. What I find so unfortunate about not getting all the information is that the mind then runs wild and everybody feels untethered and everybody is like, oh my God, the devil exists and it's Epstein and nothing is real. And it just, it creates a bigger mess to not know, in my opinion. And now you have people running around saying like they're eating babies, they're drinking blood, they're doing devil sacrifices. I haven't. Listen, there's obviously code in these files of jerky and shrimp and pizza and noodles and whatever the heck, gross, whatever. But do you think there is evidence of this kind of evil Satanism of eating babies? Or have we all just lost our frickin ever loving mind?
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Anna Paulina Luna
I think that there's some really weird stuff in those files that you can't explain.
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Host
Okay?
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Anna Paulina Luna
And what I will tell you is when I was looking through some of these files with both Democrat and Republican members of Congress at the doj, they were deeply disturbed. And I actually was asking those questions like what do you think this means? Because it's weird and it's obviously code and no one could really come up with that. Also there was interesting records from Deutsche bank and he was naming his bank accounts weird things like ball one of them, save another One. So whether that was, you know, him just being a freak and a weirdo or whether that was something more nefarious, I just think that anytime you take a child's innocence in the way that he did, I think that it's evil. I think it's satanic.
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I got it. Okay, I appreciate that. I'm gonna segue. Gonna go to the SAVE act now. So let's talk about this for a second. So I have some assets to show you. I. The criticism on this one is women can't vote, People of color can't vote. You know, it is totalitarian fascism at its finest. Disabled can't vote, the military can't vote. So we've got a sound up. I'm gonna. I'm gonna throw up for you here. The top criticism. I'm gonna let you address these things, guys. Show us SOT 13, please, of Americans.
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Policy Expert/Analyst
And maybe he would explain. I'm happy to thank you for that question because I think all of us should be aware of the fact that of what is required by this act when it comes to registering to vote, you have to present identification, correct? But your driver's license, which most people use in the course of business every single day, is not acceptable. What is acceptable is a passport. 50% of Americans do not have a passport. Those who want to obtain it so they can vote will pay $186 and wait three or four weeks for that to happen. Secondly, you can use a birth certificate, but any person who has changed their name as a result of a marriage or a hyphenate relationship has to find not only their birth certificate, but some correction of it to prove that they're eligible to register to vote. It's estimated that 9% of the voters in America do not have the identification required by this bill. It means ultimately that those people will not be voting. And I think that is the ultimate goal of this administration.
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Go.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yeah, it's. It's really egregious to think that people are, you know, not smart enough to have two forms of identification and documentation. To put it in perspective, you have to have two forms of identification to open up a bank account, to be able to drive. You have to prove that you are who you say you are. You have Social Security, birth certificate, et cetera. And so I think that this is, again, a pivot from the Democrats really saying that they're not even listening to their own base. You have literally black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Democrats, Independents, Republicans, they all want this. And it's literally the elitist in Washington, D.C. that are saying that's not gonna happen. And I think that it is more nefarious. I think it's because they are trying to get illegals to vote for them in elections. Meanwhile, at the same time, they're literally saying that Donald Trump and Republicans are trying to steal elections. So just playing devil's advocate, wouldn't you want a secure election? But what's so crazy to me, Gillian, is that really, up until it was me that threatened to shut down the government over, they said, look, it's been 300 days. The Senate's not doing anything. And then all of a sudden, you literally heard Chuck Schumer go out with Elizabeth Warren, and he literally said that we need amnesty for all these millions of illegals here. So that's their game plan. That's what they want to do. And at the same time that you have this happening, I mean, like, these are real issues. You literally have this massive, like, infiltration within our youth, whether it's on TikTok or Instagram or Facebook or X of these foreign paid bot accounts that are really trying to sell a lot of division, division and divide in this country right now. And I think that it's a big problem. There's a massive foreign influence operation I can get into. And I know we're probably going to segue into, like, what far is. But, you know, I caught firsthand Marco Rubio, when he was the head of House intel or Senate Intelligence, actually made a recommendation for an individual by the name of Neville Roy Singhan.
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Host
I know exactly who he is. He's the one that's funding the no Kings protests and BLM and all the riots, all the crazy. He's like one of the handful of guys and he's.
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Anna Paulina Luna
He's working on behalf of the ccp. He actually was also tied to a group that had gone online and was talking about Charlie Kirk's assassination. From what I had gathered before it had happened, that was also being trained and operating out of Cuba. And so this is all influence from the ccp. And a lot of people forget it's the CCP that's coming here. I want to get into the SAVE act because this does tie into it, right? But, like, you have this CCP right now that's encouraging their people to come here. You know, when women are, you know, sometimes eight, nine months pregnant, have children here, they're hiring American surrogates. Then they're bringing these children back to China, raising them into the thousands, tens of thousands of people that this is happening with. And then they're all considered American citizens, yet they are literally operating on behalf of the ccp. And I think that this is long term going to be really scary. The voter ID aspect is incredibly important because you have under the last couple of administrations, by left leaning administrations, millions of people that came here unvetted and unchecked. They forced the census to be done at a time where they were counting illegals to vote, which do affect congressional districts. And then you have at the same time the Democrats that are saying, we're no longer going to depend on the minority vote the way that we used to. Right. Like in 2016, it was really a big focus on the black American voting demographic. And then in 2018, you start to see that the voting minority starts to increase with Hispanic Americans. So they no longer care about black issues. They now pivot to 100% Hispanic issues. And what do they think those Hispanic issues are? Gillian? It is literally open borders is what they're running on. So you see Kamala Harris running on these open border tickets, Joe Biden, et cetera. And then they're saying, well, if we don't have illegals here, who's gonna pick the crops? And so what they're trying to do now is they realize that, by the
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Host
way, is it when Jasmine Crockett said that like, we're done picking cotton, I'm like, wait, you do it. So you, you're saying they should be the new generation of the new class of slaves.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Like, it's terrible. It's insane. You think these people are coming to
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Host
America to be your slave from the party of, you know, diversity and equality. It's unhinged.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Well, it's super unhinged. And it's also insulting, right? Because when you have people that are coming to the United States that are merit based, can contribute to society, that assimilate, learn our language, love our culture, embrace what it means to be an American. Guess what? A lot of them are not going to be, you know, having it a life goal to go work in a field to pick crops. It's insulting to insinuate. And so the aspect of what they're trying to do is if they can block voter id, they will essentially allow illegals to vote in elections. It's already happening in some local elections around the country. And you have sanctuary cities. You see a lot of this playing out in places like Minneapolis. And then they're showing you, they're not showing you the rapists or the murderers or the pedophiles that they're deporting. They're not Showing you the military age males that are from different parts of the world. They're only showing you literally footage of Hispanic women and children trying to make it seem that all illegals are Hispanic. And that's 100%, you know, propaganda war because they're trying to target that voting demographic for the midterms. And I think that unfortunately right now you have a lot of people that are failing to recognize that we get so caught up into kind of, you know, our little bubbles that we're not seeing that right now. If you could look on the grand scheme of things, we have a short window of an administration that's actually willing to confront China head on. A lot of people have no idea how badly China has infiltrated everything from our tech to our infrastructure to buying property, military installations, literally, to buying politicians that are literally pushing pro Chinese policy that's actually handicapping us as a country. And so I try to keep people kind of focused on that with my messaging, but it can get hard at times because it seems like people are rage baiting a lot and that's not really what the focus needs to be right now.
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a conclusion when I was looking at connective tissue between Panama, Venezuela, Iran, Greenland and all of it has an underlying theme and that's China of supply chains rare earth minerals choking out their ability to access crude without using the petrodollar in Iran. And for some reason no one's really talking about that. It becomes like this. You have to.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yes, I'm very Surprised, Like, I'll be honest, I'm very impressed. Without getting into all briefs and stuff that you said. No, seriously, a lot of people can't see that and they don't make those connections. A lot of people too forget that when we were investigating the Biden administration and his son's business dealings, there was a lot of money coming in from China. And that wasn't the only if. If the American people truly knew some of the stuff that we were briefed in classified settings on how bought and paid for the Biden administration was by China, I think that the word would be probably treasonous. Wow. Because essentially they were selling out the country. And really, if you want to talk about, you know, taking over without a shopping fire, this was the entire strategy of what the Chinese government was doing with the Biden administration. And no one seemed to care. And so you have an administration that's been very actively kind of taking this head on. But there is a lot of foreign funded psy operations. And so what I will say is like going back to the FARA stuff, I actually was not the only one. The House Oversight Committee recommended that never. We're seeing him being actually brought up on far charges and he legitimately is a person that's advocating on behalf of the Chinese government. Discord and divide. Responsible for a lot of these violent riots. Gillian. They had had. They were passing out these Mexican flags, brand new, targeting people, and it was all being paid for by China. And that was on the anti ice riots in the beginning of last year. Then you saw it really, regardless of where you are on the Israel versus Gaza Palestine issue, they were taking. They were funding both sides of the opposition for protests and discord in this country because that fractures a certain voting bloc here in the States. And so I think people forget that if America's not winning, we're all losing. And so specifically on the topics, what they try to do is they go in and they infiltrate, they divide, they fracture. And there's many groups in Washington that are still allowed in the Capitol that are actually tied to never worry seeing him, his wife, the CCP foreign funding code pink is one of them. And so it's a problem.
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Host
You know, Tulsi Gabbard said that to me. She goes, the divided we fall thing, that's real, Jill.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yeah.
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Host
And but we're so caught up in believing that this fight is horizontal. Nobody's looking outside of the red versus blue and the black versus white and the gay versus straight. And it's like, guys, let's, let's Zoom out for a second and pay attention to what's happening. It's the stuff you're talking about. And I'll bring up one other thing about this guy, Neville Roy Singham. I was just looking into something with regard to Mom, Donnie's wife and all this crazy anti Semitic stuff she's been engaged in for God knows how long. And I remember having this fight, I think, on peers a little while back, and somebody goes, well, you know, there's Jews for Mom, Donnie. Jews for Mom Donnie is run by Neville Roy Singham's niece, who's not Jewish.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yeah.
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Host
Alicia Singham Goodwin, not Jewish, also a communist.
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Anna Paulina Luna
And well, they're there. Yeah, there. And a lot of people are like, well, what's the difference between Singham and someone like Soros? And I think the common thread is they both hate America and they want America to finally fundamentally changed. But one of them is a globalist. Soros is, and seeing him as a mouse, an actual communist. So a lot of the groups that he's funding, the Party of Socialism and Liberation, it's all tied to Democrat Socialists of America, all of it. And what people are forgetting is that these groups start out funding local elected officials and then it goes bigger from there. Right. Then they target some of the Blue Dog Democrats. That would be more of your Kennedy era mindset. Democrats that would work with Republicans, still love our country. And now you have people that are getting elected to office that genuinely are saying that this country is terrible and pushing policies. And sometimes I get up there, Jillian, and I'm like, are these, like, it's crazy to me that these people get elected because you see them behind closed doors when the cameras are off and then you see kind of the act that they put on and then you realize that these people are not really in it for the public service aspect. I think it's a lot of personal reward or they like the attention that they're getting, but what they're doing is actually quite damaging. And if you notice the news cycles, I mean, as soon as Congress got the brief on the Venezuela strikes, you notice that the news cycle just kind of dropped off and they stopped talking about it because they realized that there was legitimate reasons why these people were being labeled as literally pirates, foreign terrorists, bringing in drugs into our country. There is the intel to support it. And I will just say this right now because I know a lot of people are rightfully concerned about what's happening with some of the strikes in Iran and that there is no plan for the administration to put boots on the ground. There is no plan for this to be Afghanistan or Iraq. Iraq 2.0, that's not in the cards. And I have, especially, you know, given my background as a veteran, my husband, his background is a veteran. Obviously that's something that we don't want to see. We don't want to see us involved in another, you know, 20 year long war. And mind you, you know, Congress has not declared war. And so for this whole thing in entirety, what I will say is that President Trump, in the time that I've known him, I've known him personally since 2018, in the entire time that I've known him, I have never known him to be someone that will do things in an effort to start a war, prolong it. And this aspect of wanting peace is actually something that even in our private conversations is still very much so a real thing. And so I think people will see, you know, his intentions in the next few weeks. But I, I do not anticipate, nor would I support there to be a long term intervention with Iran.
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Host
What do you think it would require? Because people are like, these are not just military strikes. This is a war. Just say, you know, say what it is. And the fact that you're avoiding this just shows that this is politically motivated. And then of course, the political motivation always comes back to Israel, evil Israel. And the thing is, listen, I'm, I'm open, like, go ahead and show it to me. How has evil Israel, how's that been the tail that has wagged this dog? But when I look at it, I'm thinking, okay, you're taking away 80% of China's oil, that whole like belt and Road initiative, for them to be able to go around the, you know, the Straits of Hormuz and the Straits of Malacca and not have to deal with U.S. navy. And all of this stuff you've got defanging the terror proxies, expanding peace in the Middle east, all of these things seem to be a handful of reasons outside of just supporting an ally. Why do you think people are having a hard time seeing beyond just evil Israel has made us get into another forever war. Am I, am I missing something because I'm here to attack Israel? What am I not seeing?
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Anna Paulina Luna
No, I think, I think it's multifaceted. I think specifically on that, you know, we are the United States, and at least in my perspective, we're never going to directly put our troops, our, our American people in direct line of fire unless it's going to directly affect the United States. And based on the intel that we saw there was reason to believe that Iran was going to a strike us and then also to, you know, I, and I've said this publicly, but they were refusing to end their enrichment program. Even though we were successful in the initial strikes. They were basically not being forefront and honest in the negotiations. And then also too, at the same time, there was a bunch of missile systems lined and directly pointed at our bases near the southern port of Iran or southern portion of Iran. And regardless of whether or not the United States, it was involved in any strikes, they were going to hit us. So when you are triaging something and you know that you're going to get, basically get hit, do you want to, you know, pull the first punch or do you want to do the punching? And so, you know, based on what the administration had stated publicly, you know, in those assessing numbers and potentially casualties that we would have sustained, regardless of whether or not we basically were the ones to throw the first punch or not, it was in the best interest of the administration to act down. So there was credible threat that existed for President Trump to exercise his Article 2 authorities. But again, you know, we're looking at, I think, something that's multifaceted. You had, I think, a lot of people that were really upset about what happened with the Epstein files. I think you had a lot of people that were really, really, you know, me being one of them, super impacted by what happened with Charlie Kirk. And then you have this aspect of a generation, I think it starts with really my generation onward that has been so, I think, lied to by elected officials. And we really saw a lot of our friends and our family members directly affected by the events of 9, 11, and then also to leading into 20 year war in Iraq and Afghanistan that really destroyed, I think, lives permanently. And so we don't want that to happen again. And so I think it's right for people to be critical and concerned with their government when your government's saying no, but you have to trust us. But I do think that this administration has, at least as far as their promises have been made on this specific front, has delivered. And I will say that a lot of people were hoping that this would turn into a World War three situation. And I want to just point out something very, very interesting that no one's really discussing. But if you remember earlier this past year, President Trump had gone with Steve Winkoff, Jared Kushner, they actually met President Putin in Russia. And what was interesting about that entire dynamic and situation is there are so many people in Washington that were pushing President Trump and the administration. Administration to directly, kinetically get involved in Ukraine. And President Trump, just as he is today, has consistently said that he wants a peace deal and he's consistently entertaining and pushing forward those discussions. No one's talking about that. That would have been the easiest conflict to set something off. And he chose not to. And so now you're actually seeing recently he said that he had a great call with President Putin. You didn't see Russia jumping in to really defend Iran in any sense. And there are still active communications in regards to those peace talks. So will they get there? I hope so. Because if there can be a peace deal with Russia and Ukraine and the United states, that's a $2 trillion trade potential for the United States. That's a massive game changer, not just for most of the European Union, which also wants there to be peace, but also for the United States and for Russia as well. But they don't want to talk about it. If you talk about it, you're then all of a sudden pushing pro Putin talking points when we know now Tulsi was the one that revealed it. 2016 was made up. There was no Russia collusion. We all know that now.
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Host
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Anna Paulina Luna
I'm going to kind of hook it back on to the Save America act because the reason why they're able to get that done is because of FISA. FISA and the section 702 does need to be reformed. Senate would walk over broken glass to pass FISA even though it does not have safeties in place for the American people. But yet they're saying that they don't want voter id. And so really I think the only way that voter ID survives in the Save America passes is if we attach it to FISA. And then there's a Section 702 reform that we would need right now. But there's a lot of people saying, oh, we can't reform it. But so it's. There's this kind of machine that exists in Washington and not a lot of people know how to play the rules and they don't really strategize and game things out. You would think that there's like this massive think tank operation, but there's really not. So you have the administration that's blocking and tackling a lot of this and then you have, you know, members of Congress that for the most part will just go up there and vote. But you have to be able to at least try to fight even if you're not successful the first. You have to at Least try. Because if you don't, then it's just business as usual. And that's unacceptable. And that's actually how we've been able to reform. Like, I can tell you about how many times I was told that, you know, banning insider trading would never happen, and I was forcing my colleagues to take bad votes and like, well, how could I do this to people? And yet you saw the President, who's fully behind it, talking about it at the State of the Union, we're going to be voting on it. So you just can't accept no as the initial answer. But going back to your question, I think that it is incredibly important for politicians specifically to exercise transparency. And what I've learned, and I think if you're really looking at the distrust that existed with the federal government, the American people, even dating back to when it really started, it started during the Kennedy assassination. And so when President Kennedy was shot, a lot of people were like, this is not like, first of all, he was so incredibly popular, so loved. He had a beautiful family, and they knew something wasn't right. But you had the federal government, if you talked about it, if you questioned it, that you were labeled a conspiracy theorist or crazy, and they pooh, poohed it. And then after the last declassification order from President Trump, and for the first time in history, the CIA director, so kudos to Director Radcliffe, actually fully released the files when in previous executive orders, doesn't matter if they were Democrat or Republican, they had blocked the release of these files. They fully released them. And we find out that the CIA did lie to Congress, that they destroyed evidence, that they undermined the investigations, that they engaged in witness intimidation. And then you had the reports coming out from the KGB that were eventually given over to Congress via the ambassador to Russia, actually delivered those reports to our task force, and it confirmed what was in the files. And that we believe that there was a select group that operated within the CIA outside of the purview or authority of the federal government that engaged in the assassination of the President. And he, Kennedy, if you said even seven months ago, you know, 10 months ago that he was shot from two sides, people call you crazy.
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Host
Yep.
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Anna Paulina Luna
We had a doctor testify to that. That is there, there was multiple shooters. And yet, you know, they didn't want to report on that. So how do we fix it? How do you develop it is. You have to have transparency. And I've, I've fully been considering because I see, I see how people are just so upset with Congress. And I think we have, like, a 14 favorability rating, rightfully so. A lot of my colleagues are disappointments, but I've been really considering, you know, would it be possible for me to actually be able to run and succeed in staying elected if I don't take any. Any of the PAC money? And, you know, I was, I was, I think in total to. When I first got elected, I was at. Spent $12 million to one in my general election. And the NRCC, I think they spent $300,000. So it was really a really tough election, but I made it through. And then I've. I'm always being outspent, but for people like me, I don't really raise that much PAC money anyways. But that's one of those things, and I think that this goes into election reform is if you're trying to restore trust, the American people, if people are so upset on certain issues, then maybe election reform is the way to do it. But, you know, I'm only one person and, and I think that's a bigger conversation because really, unless you have other people on board, it's almost impossible to get elected without having help from.
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Host
Everybody knows that. I'm actually, I'm working on this book about how Big Ag, Big Food, Big Pharma and Big Insurance essentially have become this sickness syndicate. So you first have to look at the ways in which they manipulated Washington and there's no opportunity. There's an entire section in the beginning of the book about how they're pulling those levers. There's no way for you to do it because the minute you do, they'll just primary you.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Okay, Night.
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Host
Night. You're gone. You're not gonna play ball with us,
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Anna Paulina Luna
but I can give you an example on the pharma aspect. So I don't take any pharma money because I just. I've seen time and time again, I remember questioning the FDA under Biden when there was this baby formula outbreak that was responsible for killing many infants in this country. And I think the numbers were actually rolled into COVID deaths for the amount of children that actually died as a result of this exposure from the FDA not doing their job. But even in that, I mean, I'm one of two Republicans that signed onto a piece of legislation to cap prescription pricing because I don't take pharma money. It's one of two. And so it does make it a lot harder. And, you know, you have this aspect of, you know, I'm a young mom, I have, you know, a beautiful family, and it is a lot of personal sacrifice. Going up there and then you have people that again, just don't care. And they go up there and they will do what it takes to get reelected. They don't really care. They fall in line. And that's, that's so not what our founding fathers had anticipated. And so I think, you know, after Congress, I'm going to have to figure out a way to run other candidates like me because I see how it's broken and I see how to fix it, but it's going to take a heavy lift to do it. And I think I know how to kind of organize the candidates to do it. But it's the election reform and campaign finance law definitely needs to change. And farm is the biggest one.
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Host
Yeah, they're the biggest lobby.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Bigger.
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Host
Bigger than defense, bigger than all of. It's insane how much money they spend.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yeah. And they're not. They're trying to kill peptides right now. That's a separate conversation. But they're trying to completely kill compounding pharmacies and peptides because it prevents them from making a lot of money or they want to really be the only ones to actually control the compounding of it. And so, you know, we have to stand up for the little guy. But the problem that they're having with peptides is a lot of members of Congress are on peptides.
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Host
I know Kennedy's on peptides and he's being blocked by the guy who runs the fda, Marty Carey, that he appointed cuz all of my maha friends are trying to push this through and we keep trying to shine a spotlight and it's, it's basically falling squarely in the hands of Dr. Makary who runs the friggin FDA. And it's like, Marvin, bro, you're supposed to be the good guy.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Come on. It's kind of crazy, but this episode
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Anna Paulina Luna
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Host
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Anna Paulina Luna
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Host
I was actually. This is going to be one of my last questions to you, but I think I'm going to ask it now. I see you as a vice president in this 2028. Are you considering that? Has that been discussed? I like a Rubio APL ticket. That's my just, I'm just throwing it out there. I'd also love Tulsi. I don't think she's going to run but, but I just, you know, but any thoughts?
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Anna Paulina Luna
Look, I haven't discussed it and I'm really focused on, you know, just doing the basics and helping fight back a lot of the corruption that we're seeing right now. Because you know, my voters, when I promised them the best piece of advice I ever got was Jim Jordan. He goes, if you just say you're going to do what you said you're going to do on the campaign trail and you're honest, this is not a difficult job. But if you find that you're compromising your principles and changing your, it's going to impact you and you have to carry that weight. And it's so weird. Jillian, I know, I'm sure you do because I know you're into health and wellness but the mind body connection is real. And so many people in D.C. come up, come down with some like weird, weird, weird forms of illnesses that are just like very aggressive. And I, I think it's the compounded stress and just like years of Them lying to people and just kind of letting that kind of anxiety and cortisol just destroy their system. So I haven't discussed it, but what I will say is that I think that the political landscape for 2028 is going to be focused on really who can deliver on, on what the legacy and what the future of this country looks like. And I think a lot of people want there to be equal and I think a fair justice system in this country. I think a lot of people right now love what President Trump has been doing in regards to the peace deals, but they want that to continue. And I think what set President Trump apart was his ability to come in as a political outsider and connect with people that felt that they weren't being represented in Washington, D.C. so if the opportunity arises, I would definitely hear what the, what the proposition is. But I think President or I think right now Marco is doing great. I think J.D. is doing great. And I'm definitely not swearing off, you know, something in the future, but I think right now I'm focused on Florida.
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Host
Okay, that's fair. Great. Wonderful. Love to hear it. Real quickly. Just. And I want to move on to the Tucker stuff, since you brought up FISA several times, but do you think that there will be a declassification with regard to the reason? Because you're like, listen, we were briefed and Iran was going to hit us, and people are like, sure, yeah, right. Will there be a declassification, do you think, of any of that information, that intelligence that suggested Iran was posing an imminent threat? Because it would be nice to shut all those people up, to be fair.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yeah, I think that they're going to probably do something similar to what they've been doing with Venezuela. You see that they've already been releasing some of the footage online, but ultimately that'll kind of be. So at least the top three objectives, I think they're really at the last objective now before the, before they decide no more strikes. But I think that, and that's something that we've been encouraging and I think that that's rightfully owed to the American people, especially being that it's your taxpayers to taxpayer dollars paying for a lot of these munitions. But ultimately, too, at the end of the day, I cannot emphasize this enough in my. All of my communications, literally, with the Secretary of State, with the White House, with the administration. I've never once heard them, any of them talk about American boots on the ground. So I'm just going to kill that rumor right now. That is not even something that's being discussed.
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Host
Okay. Transitioning to Tucker. And I want to try to be as neutral as possible here. So he. Let's. In fact, let's hear it from his own words first. This is SOT 11, guys. Can you throw this up?
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Tucker Carlson
So the other day, I found out that the CIA is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a crime report to the Department of Justice on the basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well, talking to people in Iran before the war, they read my texts. So the crime under consideration, apparently, would be the Foreign Agent act or something like that, acting as an agent of a foreign power. And I don't expect this to go anywhere. I'm not too worried about an actual criminal case against me for a bunch of reasons. One, I'm not an agent of a foreign power. Unlike a lot of people commenting on US Politics and global affairs, I have only one loyalty, and that's the United States, and. And have never acted against it. Its interests are the only interests I care about because I'm from here and I have a lot of kids, so that's not a concern. I've also never taken money from anybody. Don't need it, don't want it, and that's provable. And moreover, it's my job to talk to everybody all the time and try and figure out what's happening around the world. That's literally what I do for a living, and I'm not going to stop doing that.
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Anna Paulina Luna
I actually met Tucker Carlson for the first time. I had been on his show once before he left Fox, and then I met him actually backstage before I spoke at Charlie Kirk's celebration of Life in Arizona. And so I know that Charlie absolutely loved Tucker. And what I will say is, regardless of where you're at on Tucker's personal positions, politically, I think anytime you have the CIA engaging in ridding someone's text messages, it's always going to be uncomfortable. But my issue with what specifically, Tucker has, I guess his.
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Host
He's been framed. He's claiming he's been framed and that they read his messages. But what I wanted to ask you is, is this not an incidental collection where they're monitoring our. Our intelligence agency, CIA, is monitoring Iranian communications, and they just so happened to come across communications with Tucker?
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Anna Paulina Luna
Well, I think. I think from what I had gathered from what he said, that they were trying to hit him on a far violation. So that's a foreign agent if someone's advocating on behalf of another country. But my issue with that, granted, I haven't talked to the CIA and I haven't talked to Tucker. So just kind of based on my quick synopsis of this is that you can't target one person and it's not fair to target one person like Tucker if you have other people that are currently engaging in far violations blatantly for other countries. And in the same sense you have someone like Neville Rossingham who is blatantly engaging and still not being charged.
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Host
Wow, you certainly put that in perspective for me because I was like, I have to try to maintain my neutrality here. And I used to liberal, didn't like him. All of a sudden, center, center, right. I'm listening to him now. He's gone to a place that I can't, I can't wrap my head around. And I'm like, be fair.
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Anna Paulina Luna
I also too think, and this is just real from with the intelligence community is that I don't necessarily know that this was directed by the administration or is that the intent? Right. So President Trump was literally just meeting with Tucker Carlson. And I don't think that President Trump would ask for something like that. Is it possible that the CIA is doing what the CIA has always kind of done and done snooping that they shouldn't be? Quite possibly. Do I think that it's alarming, yes, because at the end of the day I see if this is true. Granted, I haven't verified any of this, but if this is true, I'm seeing then this is a blatant double, double standard. When you have someone like Neville, we're seeing him for a violation and then alleged Tucker Carlson, maybe you don't like what he's saying, but is he really getting paid by Iran? I don't think so. I don't think that Tucker Carlson needs money. So yes, I'm concerned. And will I be following up on it? Yes. I'm curious. And obviously you have the aspect of, okay, so we live in a free and fair country as long as someone's not doing anything illegal. Like it would be totally different if Tucker Carlson was advocating on behalf and he was dead to rights on advocating for foreign government. But I don't think that's what he's doing. And so I think that there's a lot to look into there. But yeah, so I did see parts of it. I am planning on looking into it. I am concerned to hear it. I don't think the CIA should be doing it. But I also don't have the full picture. And so that's my initial synopsis so far.
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Host
I appreciate that. And I try to think to myself, like, okay, I mean, this is a guy who feels like he was tricked into advocating for Iraq. Let's be fair there. His positions to me seem insane these days. However, if it's coming from a place of never again, and maybe it's an overcompensation for having advocated for a 20 year war that was pointless and cost trillions and thousands die, I can wrap my head around where he's at. If it's, you know, lobbying or journalism, that's, that's a dangerous fine line.
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Anna Paulina Luna
And journalism too is the aspect of, you know, he's done some good interviews with people that the mainstream media would not have typically displayed interviews with. Like, initially the mainstream media tried to say that Bukele was like this crazy dictator. He's not. He simply didn't want corruption in his country. I watched the Tucker Carlson interview of Vladimir Putin and I actually watched the entire thing. And a lot of people, and I'm sure then probably did not like that he was actually opening up the dialogue because a lot of people were pushing for war with Russia.
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Host
Yeah.
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Anna Paulina Luna
But admittedly, I don't know the full internal, I guess, full picture to make a total like, you know, black and white analysis of it. But yes, it is just based on what I'm hearing so far concerning, to say the least.
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Host
Got it.
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Anna Paulina Luna
And if he is doing that, well, then he's wrong. But if he's not, then we have a problem. And so that's why I'm looking into it.
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Host
I appreciate that. Okay. The alien files, I mean, okay, this has been going on now for decades. Arguably kicked up to a greater degree after we dropped the bomb on Japan. But then there's evidence, and I've listened to all your brilliant interviews. Obviously the most notable would be with Joe Rogan, where you got him to read the Book of Enoch out of the Bible. And I even downloaded a whole video that I've yet to watch on this. Okay, but so it would be biblical, these, these UAPS going back thousands of years. Trump says he's going to declassify. HEG says, says we're gonna do it. I don't think anyone's gonna do it. Are they going to do it?
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Anna Paulina Luna
No, I think, I think they're very serious about doing it. And I'll really look into the specifics. Yeah, I definitely think that they're gonna do it. You know, what's been interesting is so obviously there's been footage that my committee release actually was Eric Burleson that released it playing in the committee that we had for the declassification task force. And we can't explain that. And there has been other instances of footage that we cannot explain. And we have dealt with an agency, not the CIA, that specifically has an internal task force that is looking into all this stuff. And as soon as we get the official on, on paper declassification order, I want to do a press conference with all the information that we are told and shown in that briefing, because it's important for people to know. But, you know, the federal government's never going to tell you if they can't explain something, first of all, they're likely not going to admit it. Right. But this aspect of, I think that we're the only life form in a, you know, however big and wide this universe is, I think is kind of maybe a little bit shortsighted. Of course, especially being that, you know, they're looking for microbes. As Avi Loeb says, if you're looking for microbes, you know, on a distant planet, that's like looking for dust out of your front door. Why are you not looking for the person that lives in the house? And I think that there has been aspects. This does get into kind of the spiritual discussion and, you know, if you believe in angel and demons or what constitutes that. But yeah, I definitely think that there's some interesting stuff there. And I definitely will tell you that I was with Congressman Matt Gates and Tim Burchett at Eglin Air Force Base. We were denied access. We got into an actual fight with the base commander. He got up in the middle of our congressional delegation, which never happens. I'm a vet, I've never seen this happen. And left to go on tdy, Left in the middle of the meeting and went to Georgia, never came back. And then we were able to finally get one of the pilots in. I had the pilot sketch what he saw. We also saw some other stuff and we can't explain it. And we. The initial reason why we went up there is because we had pilots that came forward to Congressman Gates office saying that the Air Force was covering up UAP activity.
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Host
Right.
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Anna Paulina Luna
And that's not the only time we've been denied access, which is concerning because you have this oversight aspect that you're duly elected member of, of Congress and that you should be providing oversight for the American people and that you have these programs and people and organizations operating outside the purview of authority of federal government. That's not okay. And so, yeah, it's. It's interesting.
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Host
Well, there have been claims that we have biologics. If this is declassified, do we see those things or.
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Anna Paulina Luna
I don't think, you know, I followed up on the. We have asked questions or try to get at least as far as we can get on the whole aspect of biologics. But what's been interesting is a lot of people that we will follow up with either end up ghosting us or don't come into the skiff. But then you have the aspects of some of the stuff that we have seen. And every single member of Congress that has gone into that briefing that we had has come out and said, you know, she's not like, holy shit. So, yeah, so there's. There's some interesting stuff. You're definitely going to see a lot of interesting footage, a lot of photos, firsthand accounts from certain people that, that will be out in those reports. And then the American people can decide if you think that it's, you know, nothing, you want to carry on, fine. But, you know, I don't think that that's going to be what the general consensus will be.
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Host
It certainly seems like that won't be the case. And you're hearing about service people who've been injured by some aspect of these craft and are not getting the care they need. Famously, I actually watched that on Tucker and it's been verified. Not famously. I've watched that on Tucker, and it's been verified in other interviews where it was actually Tucker and Rogan. So let me correct that, that service people have been injured by these UAPs, but they're not getting the care they need because it's like the, it. The whole thing doesn't exist. I guess. So, you know, would these people get the care they need? Like, what do we get when this comes out? Do you think we get everything? Like, what do we get? Or is it.
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Anna Paulina Luna
I think. I think you're gonna get a lot of cool stuff, but I don't think that there's going to be ever that. The full admission telling you what to believe. Right? So, like, they'll release it, but they're not going to tell you what it is.
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Host
Okay. Okay. Last, last question on this one. Last question on this one. You suggested that you think it's interdimensional or it has been suggested to you it's interdimensional versus intergalactic. What I took away from that is that, you know, these things have always been here. They didn't travel here from some faraway place in space and time that we couldn't perceive them previously because they were able to Travel in and out of dimensions our senses do not allow us to perceive. Is there any reason that you think it's that versus another galaxy far, far away? Star wars kind of stuff?
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yeah, based on some stuff that we came across one of our briefings. And then also too, based on witness testimony, specifically refusing to call it anything but interdimensional. And then also too, I have my personal reasons for believing.
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Host
I understand. Okay. All right, I appreciate that. Last question. And I want to ask you this because of course everybody on the left is going to use it to go after you. They're going to use it to go after Trump. Jerem Powell, this guy's done in April and he was referred to the doj, right, for this. What is it, two and a half billion dollar renovation on the. Why do we care though? He's gone. We only have two more months of this guy. And then it brings all this criticism onto you into the administration that it's like it's politically motivated. And he's saying, I didn't lie, there are no luxury renovations on the Fed. And you're saying he did lie, there are luxury renovations. I'm just thinking, is it worth wasting the political capital on this guy when he's gone in April? What do I, what do we not know about this?
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Anna Paulina Luna
Yeah, for me specifically, I've referred many people that have lied to Congress to the doj, and I've also referred people that have, you know, intentionally undermined federal law to the DOJ as well. So for me it's nothing new.
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Host
Got it.
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Anna Paulina Luna
But yeah, he's on record, you know, testifying to Senate, not being forthcoming, lying to them. And so my opinion, I'm just exercising my rights as a member of Congress. But you know, it's interesting because they will try to say that, you know, it's politically motivated.
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Host
Right.
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Anna Paulina Luna
I don't know about you, but I don't think the Federal Reserve deserves a Taj Mahal, do you?
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Host
You know, you pointed out that this costs more than like the largest, most luxurious football arena. And I looked into it, cuz they're like, well they're, you know, one of my friends who's on the left is like the Fed self funded, it's not your tax dollars. And I was like, but it's generating that money off of us. And that money is supposed to go back into the economy, is it not into the government, into the benefiting the American people? Or am I getting that wrong when they make that criticism?
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Anna Paulina Luna
No, it's definitely taxpayer funded. What's interesting about him though, is that he was called in to testify. So even if he, let's say, give him the benefit of the doubt here. Let's say he didn't know specifically about this. Right.
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Host
Okay.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Well, he's overseeing, literally, our finances for the country. Don't you find that concerning, that you didn't know what was going on with his own construction project? And so I think either which way, you know, a lot of people, It's. Again, in D.C. rules for the. Not for me. If you have an American that goes into jail or into court and they lie to the judge, they are here with a perjury charge, they go to jail for that.
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Host
Yeah.
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Anna Paulina Luna
And you can have it happen all the time in Washington, D.C. i frankly don't care what side of the aisle it is. Right. If someone's lying, they're lying. You should, you know, be held held accountable. It's interesting. I think I would have made a good cop, but I'm not.
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Host
You make a wonderful congresswoman.
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Anna Paulina Luna
I'll take you where. And I'm like, well, you know, don't do stupid crap, and I won't have to be one. Like, for example, Tony Gonzalez. I had to basically threaten to censure him, and then he ended up, you know, not seeking reelection. But, like, you can't be sexually harassing your staff and having relationships and then having people lighting themselves on fire and then just say you're sorry and God forgives me. That's not how this works. Okay. Dishonor in the institution means you need to be held accountable. So sometimes I am a cop in Congress, I guess.
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Host
I love it. Is there anything I should have asked you that I did not.
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Anna Paulina Luna
No, no. I'd be happy to come back. Let me know if you want me back on. Are you joking?
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Host
I would love to have you back on. I would love it. Don't open that door. You're a very busy woman.
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Anna Paulina Luna
You're a mom. But just remember, for the Save America act, call your senator, see where they're at on it. Tell them to embrace the standing filibuster. And in the event that they don't, we're sticking it on fisa.
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Host
Do you mind if I. If I bring up one other thing that I failed to bring up when you were talking about it? Yeah. Correct me if I'm Wrong on this one, team, can we throw up? Graphic 2. In this graphic, it says that states with no effective voter ID requirement average nearly eight times more welfare benefits to illegal immigrants compared to states that require voter id. True or not? True.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Let's See, I think that that's probably accurate. I mean, you're seeing that in a lot of these states with the voter turnout, especially with failure to having voter id, they also do massive bailouts, ballot harvesting operations, and vote by mail to where it just seems like they literally throw out ballots to the wind. I'll give you an example. I don't know if it's listed on there, but New Jersey, my husband's never registered to vote in New Jersey, ever, ever. And this last election cycle, he got not one, but two ballots from New Jersey to vote in the presidential.
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Host
I saw, you know, Nick Shirley's stuff on California where he's going to these UPS stores and he's like, there are 19 people that live here that are voting in California and they are like, what are you talking about?
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Anna Paulina Luna
That is deeply alarming because I have media again after this. But we had a. In Florida, we have one of the best laws or election laws in the country for voter ID and also two for elections. And we actually just had our own version of like the Save America act that they put through the Florida House. But, you know, there has been instances of voter fraud, specifically in places like Broward county, and they go to jail for that. But I mean, we have one of the strict, you know, states in the country for this, and we still sometimes have issues. So it's statistically not possible to say that it doesn't happen. And I think anyone trying to say that is gaslighting you.
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Host
Well, not only that, why. Why are blue states not wanting ICE to show up at the midterms at the polling booths? Now, why would that be a concern?
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Anna Paulina Luna
It's just a thousand, A thousand percent. It's insane.
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Host
Well, you are wonderful and fantastic. Thank you for your service in the military. Thank you for your service in Congress. I look forward to speaking to you again. And if there's anything I can ever do to be helpful with regard to campaign finance reform in particular, or you running without taking money or anything I can do, please know that I am a huge fan. I'm in your corner. Always call on me if I could be useful in any way. And thank you again.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Perfect. We'll talk soon.
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Host
Have a good one.
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Anna Paulina Luna
Bye.
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Host
Thank you so much for watching. If you enjoyed the podcast, please, like, like comment, subscribe and share. And make sure to let me know what guests you want to see on in the future.
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