Brianna Chickenfry & Ravi Patel Tell INSANE Stories About Their Time On Special Forces

Summary

KFC Radio – “Brianna Chickenfry & Ravi Patel Tell INSANE Stories About Their Time On Special Forces”

Podcast: KFC Radio (Barstool Sports)
Hosts: Kevin Clancy (KFC), John Feitelberg, Jackie
Guests: Brianna Chickenfry (“Bri”), Ravi Patel
Original Air Date: September 4, 2025

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Overview

This lively episode of KFC Radio dives into wild stories of mental and physical endurance as Brianna Chickenfry and Ravi Patel candidly relive their harrowing experiences filming Fox’s upcoming “Special Forces.” What begins as a casual promo evolves into a vivid, no-filter account of what it’s really like to confront your deepest fears (claustrophobia, waterboarding, truly gross bucket bathrooms) on a celebrity military training show. Along the way, the KFC crew also tackles social media controversies, the strange machine behind viral fame, NBA legal drama, and more.

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Episode Highlights & Key Topics

I. Everyday Chatter: The Realities of Barstool Celebrity and Life Online

• Barstool banter: Jackie, KFC, and John open with laid-back, often self-deprecating talk about city living, social media breaks, and the downsides of viral fame
• Social media toxicity (09:58–17:00)
  • The Sydney Sweeney “fake controversy”—how a non-existent tweet snowballs into a culture war proxy
  • KFC: “This is how the Internet spirals completely out of control...and unless you are savvy...you just go with it.” (16:20)
• Manipulation and propaganda online: References to pop-culture “engagement farming,” the CIA’s infamous “Winds of Change,” and the strategic engineering of outrage for clicks.

II. The Fame Factory: Influencers, Internet Celebs, & Old School Stars

• Who survives internet fame? (23:00–32:00)
  • “If you’re not playing by these rules and you don’t have deep pockets and you’re not scratching the right backs...there’s just a ceiling.” – KFC (21:50)
  • Speculation on sustainability of influencer hype vs. old-school movie star mystique
• Are podcasts oversaturated? Fear of replacement in an always-on podcast world: “There’s so much competition, so much content. It’s a hard one to navigate.” (34:38)
• Drake & Bobby Altoff “conspiracy”: Were they secretly hooking up? KFC and Jackie speculate with tongue-in-cheek admissions about how viral rumor and real behavior bleed together (63:04–70:00).

III. NBA Scandal: The Clippers’ $28 Million “Tree Company”

• KFC explains complex NBA salary cap drama involving star Kawhi Leonard, the Clippers, and shady endorsement deals (44:29–58:00)
  • “Super illegal...The whole point of the cap is, like, you can’t go over it.” (46:24)
  • Big money means big cheats and rich owner “Mexican standoffs”: “...he would probably burn it all down. He would probably expose everyone else’s secrets.” (49:47)
• Discussion about money laundering, tax evasion, and how sports business mirrors the shadier side of Hollywood and media.

IV. Viral Outrage, Product Endorsements & the Commodification of Celebrity

• Endorsement empires: Speculation about which industries are most lucrative; makeup and alcohol dominate, “clothing lines not so much anymore.” (43:06–44:29)
• Sydney Sweeney’s career hustling: “...for her brand...her brand is so girl next door...if she puts herself on the level of like, too unattainable, then I think it takes away from her brand a little bit.” – Jackie (37:39)

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Main Event: SPECIAL FORCES STORIES (101:02–151:34)

A. Why the Hell Did They Sign Up?

• Ravi’s reason: Wants Fox hosting gigs, loves “hard things,” admits to a little-man complex and need to prove himself — but also frank about personal tragedy motivating fitness and challenge (110:09–112:42).
  • "The only thing I could control was my health...That was the beginning of just trying to transform my body..." – Ravi (112:42)
• Bri’s reason: Had almost zero preparation—ran a half-mile once, quit vaping cold-turkey, started the show during her period, and walked in “blind” (113:28–114:02).

B. The Show is Even More Brutal Than It Looks (114:29–119:12)

• No TV “comforts”: living conditions are truly extreme—cots, military base, two pairs of underwear, no mirrors, no snacks, almost no “safety net”
• “It's not a TV show. Like you’re living in this world for however long you last.” — Bri (117:14)
• "No safe word....What's crazy about this show is it is crazier than it even looks on TV." – Ravi (116:48)

C. Insane Physical & Psychological Challenges

• Claustrophobic underground tunnel challenge: “I have a full-blown panic attack...If I didn't have [Ravi] behind me I think I would've...tapped out.” – Bri (115:13–116:29)
• Waterboarding, heights, interrogation, darkness, explosives: “I was chained to a fence with a bag over my head for 25 hours...headphones with pig murder sounds...then waterboarded.” – Bri (148:11)
• No real escape: producers routinely refuse withdrawal in-episode; “They wouldn’t let her quit” (126:11)
• Hygiene and privacy trauma: “Taking shits in buckets next to each other with your eye...” (118:22), showering in underwear, sleep deprivation, constant pain, and open injuries.

D. Emotional Toll, Forced Vulnerability & Camaraderie (121:05–122:23)

• “They force you to, like, tell everyone your deepest, darkest secrets. Like, they made us sit in a circle one night and...we’re all sobbing.” – Bri (121:45)
• Genuine bonds, gallows humor, and a sense of “war buddy” closeness develop, aided by shared suffering.

E. Production, Pay, and Aftermath

• “You could just leave and you still get paid.” – Bri (151:14)
• Both would do it again: “If they did an all star league, whatever? Yeah, no, I would totally do it again.” – Bri (146:03)
• Post-show trauma/comedown described by both—psych evaluations, mood swings, physical bruising, toenail loss
  • "At the end when the psychiatrist sits down with you and goes...just so you know, you're going to have trauma as a result of this experience." – Ravi (147:11)

F. Who Was the Worst? The Cast Dynamics (124:24–125:17)

• Only one truly divisive cast member: “Cody Brown, the Sister Wives guy...He had, like, multiple wives, like 28 kids...always giving motivational speeches...” — Bri (124:40)
• Most everyone else proved surprisingly tough and less “insufferable” than expected.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On social media manipulation:
  “This is how the Internet spirals completely out of control...unless you are savvy or a nerd like me...you just go with it.” – KFC (16:20)
• On influencer fatigue:
  “If you’re not playing by these rules...there’s just a ceiling.” – KFC (21:50)
• On Special Forces brutality:
  "There was no safe word. What's crazy about this show is it is crazier than it even looks on TV." – Ravi (116:48)
• On bucket-bathroom humiliation:
  “Taking shits in buckets next to each other with your eye. So this is like...walls up to here. So while you're shitting, people in front of you washing their underwear...” – Bri (118:24)
• On being forced to bare your soul:
  “They force you, like, all the physical aside, to tell everyone your deepest, darkest secrets...we're all sobbing.” – Bri (121:45)
• Would they do it again?
  Q: Would you do it again?
  “Yeah, no, I would totally do it again.” – Bri (146:03)
  “Me too.” – Ravi (146:11)
• On trauma after the show:
  "At the end the psychiatrist sits down with you and goes...'Just so you know, you're going to have trauma as a result of this experience.'" – Ravi (147:11)
• On quitting and getting paid:
  “Someone left the first day. Like, you could just leave and you still get paid.” – Bri (151:14)
• Summing it up:
  “Let me just move our entire house with my two kids while my husband’s, like, playing Marine.” – KFC (143:45)

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Notable Lighter Moments

• Jackie on hypothetical “big dick energy”:
  Jackie: “I actually know in my heart that I would have a massive dick.” (94:19)
• On men’s vs women’s clothing:
  “Girls can put on a cheap dress and look hot. A guy puts on cheap clothes—you look, like, cheap.” – KFC (87:49)

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Conclusion

This episode is an unvarnished look at the absurd and sometimes traumatic highs and lows of public life—from internet fame to the literal trenches of military simulation reality TV. Brianna and Ravi’s reflections move beyond sensational clips to reveal a raw, unexpectedly emotional journey—one that left them battered, proud, and just crazy enough to sign up again. In true KFC Radio style, hard truths and dark humor keep things both hilarious and uncomfortably real throughout.

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Special Forces with Brianna Chickenfry & Ravi Patel premieres September 25 on Fox.

Next episode: Who will get publicly humiliated next—on the Internet or in a bucket? Tune in to find out.

Transcript

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Jackie]

I'm never in a good state when I'm in these doors. Outside these doors.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

How are you?

[Jackie]

You're not in a good state when SL Energy all the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's another edition of KFC radio on the barstool sports network. It's. It's a two man. It's kfc. And. And Nicks.

[Jackie]

Nicks. I like it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Casey and Nicks, let's go.

[Jackie]

I think the knicker, Nick.

[John]

See?

[Jackie]

Knickerbocker.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, my God. I can't cut all that.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Dude.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If you're gonna say it, you gotta say it. The Knickerbockers. Knickerbackers.

[Jackie]

Knickerbockers.

[John]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Knickerbackers.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, reason we can't do that name.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Start. The Knickerbackers are out there.

[Jackie]

Okay, but it needs to. Which I'm honored that it caught on kind of.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, it's a great nickname. It's just about when John was like, I don't. I don't get what you guys are talking about. I was like, oh, no, there's.

[Jackie]

It's a fine line.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's a fine line there. John's down in Austin still. The summer of Tommy. Maybe we'll extend him like an intern. I don't know. He's out right now, but maybe he'll join. He'll come back and join the show. So it's just me and Jackie right? Now we're gonna run through some topics, and then we have.

[Jackie]

I want to warn you, I've not, like, looked at the Internet in the Internet in, like, a month. So I don't. You're like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like those people who, like, come up from, like, a bunker. Like, you've been living in a bunker for 50 years. Like, what happened? I was just at the beach, drunk for a month.

[Jackie]

Well, it's just like, my whole feed was just beach house stuff. And then I was like, well, I don't want to see that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Jackie]

So I just didn't go on social media.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

How. How good did it feel?

[Jackie]

Like, great.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. I saw that video of you on your walk. Looked very serene, very peaceful.

[Jackie]

What video of me on my walk?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You just made a video yourself on a walk, and it was like, this is my favorite time.

[John]

Right?

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. The walks that afternoon, late afternoon walks were my favorite. The morning walks were my favorite. I'm going to miss those so much.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You can still go on walks.

[Jackie]

What?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You can still go on walks, you know? Right? It's like, not like you have to stop going on walks and you left Jersey. You don't have to miss.

[Jackie]

No, I know, but, like, there's a difference between a beach walk in a 28th street walk.

[Ravi]

Totally agree with that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Both have their own sights and sounds.

[Jackie]

20Th street is actually my favorite street in all of the city. You know why?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what's funny? I. I used to live on 28th as well, and I have 28th and third. I was on the east side, and, like, 28th always has, like, a soft spot in my heart as well.

[Jackie]

There's some. There's, like, good aura on that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, well, I. I was. Mine was, like, flooded with, like, homeless people and drama. So different, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I used to. I lost this blog. I had a blog that I wrote. There was these. There's this homeless couple who lived in front of my door.

[Jackie]

I think I want to hear more about homeless couples.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, right. What is that about? Like, it was this guy and girl, older couple, just, like, despicably homeless. Not even the. The. The. The. Not even the respectful kind of homeless, you know, they were, like, in your face, drunk and loud, and they would sleep and lay quite literally in front of my door. The door to get. You know, it's like a little vestibule. You go in one door, you go in another door. And then I went up the stairs to my apartment, you know, and they just always had, like, a bottle of liquor, and they just made a mess, like, to the point that I was, like, stepping over them, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And she was this old woman. Do you remember. You guys. You guys are probably too young. Do you remember the bitter beer face ad? Do you ever remember that? Probably not. There's like, this ad where this guy drank beer and it was bitter, and he went like this. She had no teeth, and that's just how she looked with the bitter beer face all the time. And I remember being like. The blog was like, I'm just getting by this power couple. Like, they just. This power couple runs 28th and third. This is their corner. This is basically their apartment. There's nothing I can do about it. But, yeah, 28th is. I lived on 28th. 89th, 79th. All those, like, have, you know.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I'm like, oh, yeah, those are great treats just because I lived on.

[Jackie]

Them, you know, 109th, which was crazy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

When did you live in 109th?

[Jackie]

That was when I lived with a Turkish woman.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, I forgot about that era.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then 9th and what?

[Jackie]

109Th and Amsterdam.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So west side. Yeah.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's actually not.

[Jackie]

It wasn't that bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, everyone, like, 109th on the east side is. You're getting a little, like, dicey. But, like, the west side, you can go pretty far. Columbia's up there and all that.

[Jackie]

We loved it. There's also. There's this one homeless woman on my street right now, and she's, like, the most gruesome. No offense to her. Like, the most gruesome. She, like, has a.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You're. You're just. You're disgusting and repugnant. No offense. No offense.

[Jackie]

She, like, drools. She's, like, always peeing, and it's just like, every single morning, same thing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, It's.

[Jackie]

It's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's a nuanced problem, but, like, don't be peeing, you know. You know what?

[Jackie]

Really kind of, like, crazy to, like, multiple times walking on someone.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You see someone peeing. I don't know if it's like, how often are you doing that? I catch you multiple times.

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I. There's a girl. Have you seen the girl on maybe 28th with the baby? Yeah.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I've seen it all. And I'm pretty. I, I, I. When I was younger, and I think this happens for everybody in the beginning. You give out money and you fall for the scams and you feel bad, and then eventually you realize, like, there's just, unfortunately, so many people that if I just give money every time or fall for Every scam. Like, I can't eventually kind of get a little hardened and. And honestly, just, like, don't care as much anymore. When I see the babies, though, I just like, yeah. What? I don't even. How do you. I don't. I can't wrap my mind around being, like, a homeless baby.

[John]

Yeah, I know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Unless, you know, I'm hoping it's a scam, because then it's like, all right, they just go back to their apartment or wherever they have something better going on. They're just, like, trying to. Trying to get a couple bucks, and she's exploiting her kid, which is terrible. But the alternative of, like, they actually needed. And they're like, her sign that I said, you know, I need help with formula. Oh, my God. Part of me wants to go get formula and be like, here you go.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Because I know if I give you money, it's going to booze or drugs, but, like, here you go. Here's the formula.

[Jackie]

You know, if you're, like, a police officer and you walk by and you see that, are you kind of required to.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know. That's what I mean. It's just a whole other level of homelessness where it's like, it's not neglect because she can't provide better care.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Unless she can scam. Those people. Should go right to jail.

[Jackie]

Like, do you. The dogs, too?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The dogs?

[Jackie]

You know, is it a scam to kind of, like, lie?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's a good question. Panhandling is. There's probably some definition, legally, that you're allowed to do versus what you're not allowed to do. Yeah, but.

[Jackie]

But, like, if I go and I say, hey, guys, like, I don't have a place to sleep tonight, can I get 30 bucks for.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm also very surprised by homeless women. I just feel like there's always an option for you before you reach there. You know, it's like, if you needed a place to stay tonight, you get a place to stay tonight.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, once you become a drooling, peeing on the corner woman, probably not, but how do you let it get there before you're like, hey, dude, like, I'll be your girlfriend or whatever. Just find something. You know what I mean? Like, there's just. They're not great options, but they're better than being homeless.

[Jackie]

Than being homeless.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I would imagine that. I don't know. So many questions.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So many questions.

[Jackie]

So many questions.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So we got an interview with Bri coming up at the back half of this interview. As well. Bri and Ruby Patel were on the new special forces show that's coming out in a couple weeks on Fox. And to be honest, I thought we were gonna do, like, it was just, like, a promo interview. We work with Bri. We're friends with Ruby. They're on the show. They needed to promote it. It's like, yeah, we'll do your favor, and we'll talk about it. And it ended up being like, a whole hour interview of, like, wild stories from them. That Special forces show has celebrities compete. Not even compete, but just train as a Navy seal. And the stories they have are crazy. As crazy as you think that that Navy SEAL training show might be. Like, multiply it by 10. It's bonkers. And, like, I'm convinced that Brie is, like, the most badass person I know.

[John]

I know.

[Jackie]

I. I think I'm gonna watch it because I'm so curious to see, like. Yeah, because she says it so nonchalantly, too, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, things that are just like, yeah, I had this for breakfast, she's saying, but they're, like, incredibly taxing and stressful and, like, you know, an insane situation. So interview with them coming up. So we'll run through some topics here, and then we'll dive into that. There's some. We got some Sydney Sweeney drama. We got the NBA drama with the Clippers in Kawhi. We'll get Jackie's take on that in a minute. And. And a few other things to get to Drake and Bobby Altoff. There's a. There's a whole bunch of headlines. I'll start with Sydney Sweeney, because she's just, like, the golden child right now and everything. Sydney Sweeney is a big deal. There's a new controversy, supposedly, with Sydney Sweeney. She was in a Jimmy Choo ad as a ballerina.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And all the headlines recently. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

[Jackie]

She probably should have chilled out on that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, or now's the time to go hard.

[Jackie]

That's a good point.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Depends on what you want. And I think this controversy is actually gonna. Highlighting kind of that point right there. She is a ballerina in this ad. And all of the headlines and tweets and. And whatever on social is saying, the left is outraged that Sydney Sweeney is portraying a ballerina because it's disrespectful to ballerinas who, you know, trained and competed, whatever, their whole life to become actual ballerinas, which, of course, is patently ridiculous. I mean, first of all, she's an actor. She. Guess what? She's also not really Tanya Harding.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

She's also not actually, you know, the. The. The. The nun who had a devil baby in her from a movie like these. She portrays fake things. Right. This chair squeaks. So that's what she does, and that's what people do in ads, turns out. And what I saw was all of the tweets from the right being like, the left is saying the left is outrage. And I was like, I've always. That. That. That to me, always. I'm always. I'm an Internet nerd. Right. So I'm very fascinated in how those things start, how trends start, how controversy starts, headlines, fake tweets, fake news, all this stuff. Because there were times, like, I remember one time I was watching when Bill Burr did snl.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I watched it live, and I went to social right away, and the initial reaction was a bunch of people. I don't know whether it was the left or right. Probably the right, because Bill has gone left in recent years. Being like, that sucked. That was terrible. Blah, blah, blah.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That was like, you know, 1:30 in the morning, wake up at a regular hour. And now all of the tweets are people reacting, being like, bill Burr's hilarious. You guys are wrong, right?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So when I did it on the show, John was like, no one actually said that. That's like, if you look, all of the tweets are saying how funny Bill is. No one was actually saying, bill's not funny. That was like, a small sample. And now all the virality and the trending are the people, like, on the other side, right? Yeah, but I had witnessed firsthand. I was like, no, the actual initial reaction was a lot of people saying, this is not funny.

[John]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So, like, point being that sometimes it can be real and people are reacting.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then other times it's like one or two people saying something, and the reaction is like, no one actually believes this. You just saw one tweet, and now everyone is replying to that, right?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This is a step further. The one tweet that sparked the controversy is not real. The account doesn't exist. I. So I was like. I thought I was going to do a video on, like, the actual controversy because I was going to say everything I just said, she's an actor. This is ridiculous. People are politicizing her. So I was like, let me go try to find the actual criticisms and not just the reaction to the criticisms.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I was able to, like, track down one tweet, and the account just doesn't exist. Wait, not. Not deleted. It's just like, you type in her name. Like, it. It was a graphic that had a picture of Sydney Sweeney and then a box at the bottom was the tweet. Okay, so there was no actual original tweet. It was just that graphic journalism work by you. Thank you. I am quite the newsman.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But it was at Amanda Catherine Quinn.

[Jackie]

And what did the tweet say exactly?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It said, you know, it is particularly dramatic. It said, sydney Sweeney pretending to be a ballerina in an ad is so disrespectful to all the girls who have spent their lives learning the craft just for some basic blonde girl to come in and pretend to be one of them. Shameful, obviously. Ridiculous. Now, the right and just anybody, the right, left, whoever, people are just like the controversy, the outrage machine is rolling, but it's all stemming from something that never existed. Now where I think it gets even deeper. And you know what's even funnier? I'm pretty sure at Amanda Katherine Quinn is too long of a Twitter handle. Oh, it's a long Twitter handle. I don't know for sure, but. So when I first saw that, I said, oh, that's a. That's an Instagram account. So I went and searched that, couldn't find it. Then I went back to Twitter, and it. It's not. You know, when someone deletes their account, you can kind of like, still click on it. And then it says, like, nothing to see here or user doesn't exist. This is just no results. So, like, totally, literally fabricated, I'm pretty sure, at least. And where it gets like, well, I'm like, why would someone do that? The response is now from people on the right saying, well, how do you. How do you think women feel when men dress up as them and play sports?

[Jackie]

Wait, how do you think women feel when men.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, so they're making it into, like, a trance. So it's like. I think it's all a plot, a plan. Like, they want to continue to, like, fight the. The trans war, right? In their minds.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This seemingly, like, silly, gossipy Hollywood actress tweet. Well, you fabricate that, and then it, like, gives you this in to be like, oh, are we going to talk about people portraying something that they're not and how it's unfair, you know, so it's like. Or it's the other way. Like, I just. You can. You can fabricate these things. You can be the victim of it. You can be the culprit of it. You can want to be in the news and want to Be a lightning rod. Or you can be like, you know, Cindy Sweeney had nothing to do with this, and now she's being politicized, and she's like a victim of a fake tweet. I don't know which way it's coming from. All I know is, like, that shit's fake, and it just is. It could just be like a. I'm just a troll around, or it's someone or some account or some party or whatever. It may be a media company, a publicist who knows, being like, let's put this out there. And then, like, we turn the conversation this way. Next thing you know, like, Cindy Sweeney is embroiled in, like, a social media trans argument.

[Jackie]

So is a trans argument like, a big.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

None of this is like, you know, this is all just social media right now. I could see a world where it trends enough that they're talking about it on Fox News and. And some, you know, podcasts pick it up and, like, people with credibility are talking about it, but it's all just not real. And it's like the anatomy of a. Of, like a scam of a hoax. And, like, I just. People fall for it, like, every day. This one is particularly egregious because it seems like it's either a one single solitary person who talked about it or even a step further. Zero. Oftentimes there's at least a few people talking about it. If you search it, you can find, you know, 10 people. But when you think about the world, it's like, if you see 10 tweets in a row, you're like, oh, wow. Like, yeah, big deal. It's like, not really.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But it's enough for people to respond to. So now there's one tweet or five people or a handful of people saying something and 50,000 replies, you know, on the other direction. And it's like, this is how the Internet spirals. Completely out of control. And unless you are savvy or a nerd like me or take the time to, like, click around, you just go with it, you know? Oh, yeah. Okay. People are mad at Sydney Sweeney again. Oh, wow. People are like, I. I understand the parallel between, like, trans and cosplaying, whatever it is. And it's like, none of this should have ever happened. Jackie said that if she had a penis, metaphorically, it would be a big dick. So maybe Jackie wouldn't need bluechew, but the rest of us, anybody could use a little bit of bluechew. Bluechew is the original OG cheat code for your crotch Giving you stronger, harder, bigger, longer lasting erections in tablet form that will revolutionize your sex game and change your life. It's like a pep talk and a gym membership for your dick. Whether it's a real one or a metaphorical one, whether it's big, small, whatever it is, Bluetooth will only help you and make your your sex life better, longer lasting and more enjoyable. It's not just a supplement, it's an erection resurrection where not only will you be able to perform better and enjoy yourself and satisfy your partner more, but the confidence will be there after the fact. When the girls are talking about you in the group chat or the guys are talking about the group chat and they're saying, how was it? How was he? What was the performance? They'll say a. And it doesn't matter whether it was all natural or a little help from bluechew, as long as it gets the job done. There's no more stigma, there's no more embarrassment. Get on the BlueChew train and make sure you're living your best life right now. You go to bluetooth.com and discover your options. Read about the medical safety, find a licensed professional who will go through it with you. They will approve you, and then they send it right to your door. Right now for my listeners, you get your first month for free. You go to bluecho.com and use promo code KFC. All you got to do is pay $5 for the shipping and then you get your first month of better, longer lasting, more satisfying erections. So become more of a legend with BlueChew.com right now and use promo code KFC. Head to BlueChew.com for details and safety info. And big thanks to BlueChew for sponsoring the show.

[Jackie]

I will say it's like it's smarter. Smarter than like AI, you know, like that's a smart scam.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Totally. I mean, the, the people who have, like, who can, like, you know, are thinking a step ahead about how to manipulate and utilize, you know, social media. Like I think like the government, CIA and people are probably doing that. Like there's, there's instances throughout history of, of like, of. Of groups like the CIA, like using pop culture to persuade people.

[John]

Yeah, right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like propaganda and stuff. My favorite one is a. I've talked about it before. There's a series called the Winds of Change. It's a podcast series on Spotify and it's about how the CIA created a song in the 80s that basically was like, right when the Berlin Wall was falling. Yeah, the song is called Winds of change. They made it very popular in Germany, in like Berlin, I think it was too. And the song's about like growing and maturing and changing your mind ideologically and all that shit. And it's all. It was just like, you know, a fake, a real song.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Made for the purpose of persuading Germans into like accepting, you know, getting rid of communism. And so like, if like that was happening with just like music and I'm sure television, when that's all you had at your disposal, I'm sure when you have the entire Internet and social media and millions and billions of tweets and followers and users, like, I'm sure they are all over that. All over that. And if it's not something as well grand as the government, it's like publicists and media groups and hey, you know, if you want clicks and followers, like, here's how to do it. We'll give you the blueprint. We'll fabricate this story, you reply to it, like, we'll get these headlines written about you.

[Jackie]

Damn, that's like, it's, it's for some reason hearing that celebrities, when they get like facelifts or work done, they change their hair color, that made me just be like, oh, there's so much that's probably going on behind this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just like little things that, you know, we don't even think about. That's so what. It's just that people are like, oh my God, she's a blonde now and they're not looking at like she's got a face.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, it just distracts from. It's like, yeah, obviously I look different. I have dark brown hair now. Like, and then it distracts. And for some reason I was just like, oh, there's a lot going on.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And that's like the, you know, the simplest thing. And I'm sure it gets so much deeper and complicated, to be honest, the more and more I learn about the Internet. I'm like, it's almost, it's like disheartening in a way where it's like we were so lucky to be at like the literal infancy of the Internet and social media and content that it was pretty pure. It was like pretty merit based. Who's funny, who's intriguing, like, just go, right, yeah. And now like, I'm just learning about like, you know, engagement farming and, and, and clip, like, clip companies. Like there, there are people out there spending like hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars just on clips and promotion and, and it's like if you're not Doing that, you ain't gonna. You ain't gonna get. You're not gonna be at the top. You know, like, it used to be, I could grab a mic and grab my buddy John and we could start a podcast. And like, it works and you get big enough. And now it's like, if you don't have the money, the resources, the. The planning, the straight up, like, manipulation, all that, like, things like television and Hollywood and those institutions, like legacy media, I think have been the corruption and manipulation. All that shit is so embedded. Like, you know, that agents are sleazy and there's. Women have to sleep with guys to get to the top. All these things that are just like, yeah, it's just part of that industry. And I think all of that has, like, come to the Internet now where it's like, if you're not playing by these rules and you don't have deep pockets and you're not scratching the right backs and all that, like, there's just a ceiling. You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

I think it's scary that, like, I mean, like in like, troll farms and like, whatever, all that just like, I. I don't even know like, how they would stop it because it just plays into the most, like, what's it called, Evolutionary, like, instinct. It was just, you just want to, like, be a part of the crew mentality. You just don't want to get exiled. So if you see other people jumping on, like, you're gonna want to jump on. And like, especially people on the Internet who they might feel lonely, like, in their personal lives, like they want to be a part of something. It's just feeding into that. And there's like, it's such a powerful tool and it's so embedded in us. It's like, I work every time, every time.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And even like, if you see a new. A new influencer, right? You're like, oh, that person's funny. But then you see like 50 accounts all posting clips. You're like, oh, my God. They're like, they're so popular that fans everywhere are starting accounts and posting this shit. It's like, that's them. Yeah, that's a company that's just, you know, those fan accounts are just, you know, so those things are. And like, it's part partially, like, work. Work smarter, not harder. And like, you know, use all the loopholes and tools at your disposal. But also, if you're not doing that, you better be like a one of one talent where you don't have to, you know, I, like, I. I guess you reach a certain point, I think, of certain, like, comics, like the Nikki Glazers of the world, the Shane Gillis of the world. They're, like, barely on social. You see them here and there.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They don't really need to utilize all that stuff because they're just monsters and their talent shines through. But if you're, like, hustling, you gotta have, like, all these accounts, all these platforms, always in the conversation, somebody pulling the strings, because otherwise you're just like, one voice in the sea of entertainers and athletes and famous people, rich people. I used to joke, like, I remember joking with Whitney Cummings and then everybody who came after that. I was like, stay out of our lane. You're rich already. You have stand up, you have television, you have all this stuff. Leave, like, the podcasting money to us. And I was, like, joking about it at the time, and then now I'm like, holy.

[Ravi]

They.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The. The actual famous people all, like, took over the space, you know, and with that comes a lot more, you know, manipulation and executives who are plotting and planning. And it's like, we'll take your content, we'll take your talent. We're going to blow it up by doing this, this, this and this. And if you're not playing by those rules or doing those things, like, you're. And I'm. And that goes, like, for content, that goes up times a billion for business, politics, like, it all is kind of everything's content.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Do you think that there's still an element of, like, cream rises and, like. Yeah, that's weeded out.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Like, that's what I'm saying. There are still, like, very talented people who aren't engaging that because they're like, I just want to see you when you're in your movie.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

To me, the dream is to get big enough and talented enough where a little bit of mystery is, like, a good thing.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I. I feel like I have to post every day and stay on your feed and stay in the algorithm because I'm not big enough, famous enough, talented enough really to rely upon everybody seeking me out. Every time I put out a piece of content, I need to push it to them. I got to do more, more, more, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

When you reach a point where you're like, I know that if I put a ticket on sale, drop a TV show, drop a new video, skit, commercial, whatever it is, like, it'll just go.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Same thing with, like, artists, like, musical artists, like, you know, when, like, how many people you think you can do a surprise drop. It's like Taylor, Beyonce, Bieber, it's like the cream of the crop. Otherwise, you got to get on your promotional tour and grind and all that. So I think the dream is to reach a level where it's like, I don't want to give you too much because that ruins, like, the allure of me versus. I have to give you. I have to be in your face to make you follow me, like me, all that sort of.

[Jackie]

Well, that's why, like, I. I brought up the other day that, like, movie stars, they get paid like a fraction compared to these Internet personalities now. Because it used to be like, movie stars, oh, they have all the money in the world. They make so much. But now it's like the Mr. Beast of the world. Like, they're making 10x that in like a day. And it's like, well, yeah, but they are, like, giving up so much of themselves. You have to beg people to, like, watch your stuff, your personality. Whereas, like, movie stars, they can be mysterious, they can go off.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They can like, better to be like. Because, you know, when you see as movie star, she's glamorous, or he's like, cool, and you see him on a yacht every now and then with paparazzi. And when you see them, like every day.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If we were to see like Timothy Chalamet, like, every day.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, he's pretty awesome, so maybe he's a bad example. But like, you just see like, oh, yeah, it's kind of like the stars, they're just like us. And it's like, yeah, they are just like us. Rather than like, oh, my God, you know, men want to. Want to be them, women want them, that sort of thing.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But there is that, like, inflection point of like, are you big enough to do that and how much do you need to put out there? Like, like, Mr. Beast is an interesting one. He's so popular. He probably could like, disappear for a while and put out a video and it was still smash. But his content is sort of that, like, we got to keep going. We need a new video every month. We need a new thumbnail. We need a new. He's still like, doing that sort of where I think if you're really talented, funny, intriguing, whatever, you could just drop a video with like black and white writing on it. Don't worry about the thumbnail, the title, whatever. I always think about Dave. Dave Poroy hasn't worried about like a caption or a thumbnail or a graphic in his Life, because people are just going to watch it, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So to me, that's like, when do you know you're at that point? Or how big do you have to be to get to that point where less is more? Because that's the dream, man.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The. The. The, like, rat race of trying to keep up in the algorithm and on people's pages and all that is just like, oh, my God. I mean, even, like little, like, when we used to blog, like, I find a story on Monday, start writing and be like, I'll publish on, like, Friday.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, take my time to write it. No one's gonna. No one's gonna talk about it now. It's like you have five minutes, let alone five days, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Same thing with podcasting. It's like, even, like, when we started, it was two podcasts, really. Like, we. We had been around for a few years, but then when Churnin bought us, there was two podcasts. Austin. Part of my take.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Part of my take were like, we want to do shorter, more frequent episodes. So their initial idea was like, they were like, we're going to do, like, a 15 minute podcast, and we'll go Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And then ours was sort of like, all right, we'll fill in Tuesday, Thursday. It was like a barstool schedule. And so that just kind of became the schedule, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And now, like, we probably should have done away with that so long ago because, like, the idea of scheduling around barstool got so big and there's so many people that there. You can't juggle everyone's schedule. So. But we just got ingrained into this Tuesday, Thursday thing where I'm always thinking, like, something happens over the weekend, we talk about it on a Monday, it comes out on Tuesday, it's just done.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, everyone's already talked about this, even the beach house. Like, I have you guys on the show, but they already seen the clips. They've already seen their own show. Whatever it is, you know, like, fleeting attention. Right. And so unless you're going five days a week or whatever, you know, constantly, you kind of get lost. But then there's that again, that inflection point, that fine line of, like, overexposure. You're being annoying. It's too much.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Versus, you know, when is it actually beneficial to pull back a little bit. Mystery. It's all. It's very fascinating stuff, but then there's also an element when you realize that, like, there's also this just, like, people behind the scenes, who have no talent, not funny, not interested. Who are just, like, jumping on someone who is. And, like, here's how I'll blow you up with my clip farm and my phone. You know, these. You see these, like, phone, like, factories almost. You know, it's like all these plugs looks like a computer mainframe. And it's like, this is just getting you clicks and views. And it's like, unless you're doing that.

[Jackie]

You know, I was thinking, like, on Beach House. I mean, this is kind of a separate. But, like, it's incorporated just, like, the most anxiety I felt was almost the mornings when, like, I didn't do anything the night before. Like, I almost felt better when it was like, I had the text, whatever, because I was just like, all right, at least I can journey.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You're in the mix.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm in the mix. And like, whatever. Cuz like it. Like, I require so much now to get people's attention. Like, you can't just. Whatever. And like, almost like every controversy that happens now, you have somebody's attention. Like, even Sydney Sweeney thing, like, now she's almost, like, bigger than ever. And it's like, it kind of feels like now days, like, there's just so much negativity on the Internet. Because the only way to, like, capture people's attention is through being in their face, you know, being like, some kind of controversy, some kind of negative, like, whatever, right? And it just, like, feeds this, like, toxic. Not that, like, you know, And I get why, like, positive. Just, like, somebody going about their day doing whatever isn't, like, as thrilling as somebody, like, being thrown into the fire, but it is just like, it's a dirty world. A dirty.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's a grimy game, man. And, like, I just. I. I would love to know. I would love, like, next time we have one of those people in here, I want to ask them, like, was there a moment where you realized, like, I don't have to do this, because that's got to be so awesome, so freeing to be like, I don't have to, like, live, tweet this game. I don't have to post about every single thing. I just know that I'm funny enough that when I do put something out, everyone will come to watch it, even if they haven't heard from me in six months.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You know, well, I do think that, like, I believe that everyone can get to that state, but it's honestly, like, hard to work to get yourself to that confidence.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And also, it's one of those things I think like, it's a little self fulfilling where it's like, once you do, if you become that person who posts all the time, then you're that person who posts all the time. So you almost have to operate as if you are that big.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And establish. This is kind of how I roll and get the people to buy into. That'll probably take longer and all that. Maybe not, you know, you know, there's a little bit of a ceiling on it, but when you get there, it's like, yeah, I'm not the guy who's there in your face all the time, you know, and I can still make my money. And you know, like, I, I, you know, there was a time where I used to say, like, we should, podcasts should have off seasons. I still believe this, by the way. Like, we should be like, we go from September to June, we take a couple months off, we start again. You know, I don't know if you could do that now. Like, you again. You have to be really good and confident that we're gonna leave for two months. And everyone who listens to me on their commute or at the gym or whatever their schedule is, I take that away. They're gonna fill that in with somebody else.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And if that podcast hits and they're funny better or they just don't go, you know, they don't think to like, oh, KFC radio's back. Let me go listen. Like, you've probably lost a bunch of viewers, you know.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But if you are supremely confident that like, not only are people gonna come back, they're gonna be like, excited. They missed it for two months. It's the season premiere, it's season five, season 20, whatever, you know? You know, it's like television, it's like, you know, it's just so habit based where it's like, okay, when, when Lost leaves for a season, they know people are going to come back. You know, you can go watch other television shows, but you will come back to this. Podcasts are sort of like, there's so many. There's no schedule, there's no rhyme or reason. So you could get replaced pretty fucking quick.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So now, I don't know, it's probably one of those things where you do need to establish it yourself and act that way and act like, you know, you will come back. Of course you'll come back. You want to hear me, you want to see me. You know, it's kind of what you're saying yesterday about like the aura that you give off, you Know, if you give. If your aura online is. I'm desperate for attention.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Desperate for your follow. Like it kind of comes through, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I say that as one of those people. Like, I'm not saying I'm above that. I'm like doing videos multiple times a day because I want to try to reach everybody. But you know, it's interesting is the.

[Jackie]

Toast actually hasn't posted a podcast, a new podcast in three months, I think.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Three months. No, that's not true, is it?

[Jackie]

Well, so they, they.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I see their clips all the time and stuff.

[Jackie]

Patreon.

[Bri (Brianna)]

But they, they.

[Jackie]

And then they will post like throwbacks every day.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Interesting.

[Jackie]

But maybe.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, I know they both are having babies, right.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's why. But I would imagine, I mean, that's a very fair reason to not. Wait, let me just stop.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But like, that's a podcast that I think can do that. Yeah, they, they could take off for as long as they want and when they come back, the toasters or whatever are gonna be there, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay. I think they just came back today. I'm not.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was gonna say, because I did see a clip of Claudia, like that looked at least pretty recent. But like, they're, they're a good example. Like, they've, they've really carved out their space in like the women, the women sphere, if you will, and can do that.

[Jackie]

Yeah, totally.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And like, but you really probably do have to act like that. Like, like, you know, if you act like scared, you're probably gonna, you're probably the type who's gonna lose your audience. You know, it is a little bit self fulfilling or. But man, it's just hard out there. It's just. There's so much competition, so much content. It's. It's a hard one to navigate. And I. And then you go back to Sydney, sweetie. I'm like, I. Is this a good thing? I don't know. Like, she, she f. Definitely has become politicized. Like people are speculating that she's maga because like her. Someone in her family had like a MAGA themed wedding. I don't know, maybe she just had to like go to her cousin's wedding. Like, yeah, she, She, I guess is a registered Republican. I don't know if that was true or not. I don't even know why people were looking that up.

[Jackie]

But like, say, what's that? Didn't Trump, like tweet that she was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, as soon, as soon as they like reported that she was a registered Republican, Trump was like, she's the best. I like her so much more than Taylor Swift, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Maybe they want that. Maybe it's. Maybe they were like, you know, it would be great for the career if you got co. Signed by Donald Trump. Maybe she is conservative. I love Donald Trump and wants that, but if she doesn't, it's kind of weird that it's like all of a sudden you're being portrayed that way, you know, like she's made that video where she was at a gun range shooting, and everyone's like, ah, she's got to be conservative. It probably like, those two things go together. But also you could just go to a gun range and like, wow. You know, I went with my friends who are MAGA and it was crazy. But I. I don't know.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Influence what I vote on. So whatever it is real or not. Like, the way that she is being portrayed in the media by other people is making her politicized. I feel like I would either put an end to that or lean into that.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

She's kind of just like, maybe not. Maybe the best way is just let it be. Like, let the right defend me. Let the left. Are you about me? But no such thing as bad publicity. I feel like I would either come out and be like, yes, I am. No, I'm not. Or like, this is none of your business, whatever it is. But I guess, I don't know, staying silent just lets it go, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I almost feel like it's like, just let them tire themselves out.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. And also, you're probably like, this is bothering me.

[Jackie]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The, like, that's another thing where I think, like, how big are you? And are you above all this? Like, you don't have to address every single controversy.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You don't have to put out a tweet, put out a statement, Just be like, yeah, I don't know. See me in my next movie. See my next ad.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

She is cool that she makes. She makes a lot of money. She, like, kind of pimps herself out, and I don't think she gives a. Like, Cindy Sweeney does not need to be doing Dr. Squatch soap.

[John]

Yeah, I know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, I mean, I guess relatively recently, she popped to, like, another level. Or maybe she'll stop doing that, but, like, she'll do it. You know, Jimmy Choo is one thing. Dr. Squatch Soap. And there's another one she did after that that was like, what? Even American Eagles? Like, that's a big name. But, like, she could. She could be like, I'm not, I'm not advertising unless it's like, Cartier or, you know, like, really, really, like, quality.

[Jackie]

But I. But I almost feel like for her brand because, like, her brand is so girl next door that every guy, like, wants that if she puts herself on.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The level of like, yeah, like, too unattainable.

[Jackie]

Too unattainable, then I think it. It takes away from her brand a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And she also, like, this was a few years ago. I think it was 23. She did an article. She had an interview, and the article said that she was like, this is before she really popped. She was like, I really can't afford, like, the Hollywood lifestyle.

[John]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, it's. You need to make a lot of money to keep up with that. Of course, this is all relative. I'm not saying C when he was starving. But like, I, you know, I don't think she was living in mansions and multiple houses and cars and, you know, jewelry and all that. She was kind of like, I need to work to get by.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

At least relatively to her lifestyle. And then she mentioned she was like, while she was on the come up, her family, like, lost their house to foreclosure. Like, they did not. Like, they were bad financially. She was like, I, like, I think it was ingrained in her. Make money while you can, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Jackie]

I would love to know what industry like makes the most for like celebrities to. I can't tell if it's makeup or alcohol or all that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean alcohol. Every, you know, every celebrity tries to create an alcohol and they usually all become like a billion dollar entity. So that's a big one, I'm sure. Make up for the girls. I mean Rihanna has a billion dollar empire.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Haley Bieber has one. Kylie Jenner has one. So that's kind of like the, the female version. That's a good question.

[Jackie]

Feel like we don't see clothing lines as much anymore.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Jackie]

And I, I would imagine that there's some kind of like you actually don't make that much money.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That used to be like supermodels. That was it. Like being the guest jeans girl, the Tommy Hilfiger girl, whatever it is. That was like used to be huge. I wonder. Yeah, I'd like to see that come back. I wonder if those things are like, yeah, that used to be the money maker. Now it's not. So no one does it. But then it, you know.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean that's why, I mean American Eagle probably like kind of restarted that because that got a lot of attention.

[Jackie]

But did, but did Sydney Sweeney, she come out with her own like, line?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No. I'm just saying in terms of like how much money an industry can make if, you know.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If those clothing companies like American Eagle, just like, I think they took a hit but then they like ended up like doubling their stock price or something like, let's go do that, you know.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So it's all cyclical, it's all interesting. But. And it's just the business side of like the content world, where again, the same things that like movies and TV go through, where it's like, I make artsy films, I don't make the blockbuster, you know.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's kind of what we all were doing early on the Internet. Like these are passion projects now. It's a machine, it's a business, it's an industry.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And there's a lot of like weird, you know, shady that goes on there. Yeah, yeah. I mean there's so like in every industry, there's always just on the different stuff going on beneath the surface that, you know, you never really realize and that the NBA is about to go through that in a major way. After the Pablo Torre from ESPN exposed that Kawhi Leonard star for the clippers had a 28 million dollar deal with a fraudulent tree company that they, so they, so this tree company went into bankruptcy. They, they were like an environmental tech company. It was like plant these trees to help the environment and like somehow you get money out of it. Something like that. Totally fraudulent. They eventually file for bankruptcy. When they went bankrupt, they had to like do all this paperwork. And one of the documents showed all of their liabilities and all their creditors that they owed money to. And on the document was the LA Clippers. And then this LLC called KL2, which is Kawhi Leonard and he wears number two KL2 Aspire. And the tree company was called Aspirations. Long story short, they find out that Kawhi Leonard has never done any work for them, never promoted them. It looks like it's an endorsement deal, but there's just no work being done. And he gets $7 million a year. And the contract says as long as you're on the Clippers, you keep getting this money. Everybody is now basically realizing and assuming, understanding that this was the Clippers being like, here's your contract. And then over here we're going to give you $28 million more. Because in, in sports, in certain leagues, you can only pay people a certain amount of money. There's what they call a salary cap. So like let's say a team can spend a hundred million dollars, and if you go over that, you get taxed and fined and penalties like a. So if you get. You got $100 million. If you go over it, you got to pay double what your salary is, right? So, like, you have to stay under the cap. And so when you want to sign all the best players, if you already got $100 million on your books, you're like, you can't. You know, but if I can be like, sign here for this much money, and then over here, I got you on this deal, that's going to make you another 30. Super illegal. Like, super. The whole point of the cap is, like, you can't go over it. And that makes it fair competitively that everyone spends the same amount of money. And this guy is the richest owner in sports, I think mega bucks, like, one of the richest people in the world. And basically I caught doing this. And what's crazy is the guy, Kawhi Leonard, is one of, like, the quietest, most kind of respectable, like, yeah, like a robot, you know? And it's like, yeah, I don't know. On the low, he's getting 30 million extra dollars for this, like, fake company. Now, this is something that I guarantee every team in the world is doing on some level, whether it's a few extra bucks for this guy or a ton of extra bucks for a star. I'm sure it's like, here's your contract. But also, here's this, like, piece of art worth $20 million. Here's. You know, I don't know why they don't just do a bag of cash, because this is all the red tape that comes with it. But. So that's like, the big controversy right.

[Jackie]

Now is that, like, in the IRS's eyes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know about. I mean, if he's paying his taxes on that 28 million, I think you're fine. Yeah, I don't think the government would care or. No, it's definitely a little fraudulent to, like, have a deal where you're like a spokesman and never speak about them. But I think that's kind of like, up to the companies. Yeah, it's more of an NBA rule where it's like, you should not be able, you know, if I can give you 100. If I. If me and you are going after the same guy. If Steve's a free agent, you're going to offer him 100 million, I'm going to offer 100 million. But I also say I'll give you another 30 that no one knows about and you sign with me instead of you. And you didn't know that and all that like other teams were trying to sign this guy that maybe he, he was on the Raptors, he won a championship with the Raptors and then he left. Maybe if he stayed with Toronto, they win another championship.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And they got. Because someone was giving them 30 million extra dollars. Now the reality is probably the Raptors were offering their own thing under the table and it was 25, not 28. So you know what I mean? So like what's very interesting is it's sort of a. What should theoretically in my mind happen? Like to me that's such a gross violation of like the integrity of the sport, of how you like. The rules in place to build a team are here. And if you find these loopholes, it's a completely uneven playing field. I think that should be like you have to sell your team. The player is suspended, even banned. For context. The Clippers previous owner was forced to sell the team because racist comments from him surfaced and they forced him to sell that. That's kind of a bit of controversy because it's like, should your personal actions, beliefs, shitty behavior like that, like really impact your business? Like of course it impacts your business, but can someone force you to give up on your multi billion dollar operation? The difference there was all the players hated him because he was saying about black people and all the black players were like, this guy. So when the players are going to like basically mutiny, the NBA probably has to step in and be like, we can't have a team that's like not going to show up. They're going to like boycott. You got to sell, right?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

In this case, the players are like, we're, we're cool with the system.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So I don't know if it will force, like, who will force this issue? Because the other side of it is this guy Steve Ballmer is the richest, most powerful, kind of like crazy too, where if you came for him, he would probably burn it all down. He would probably expose everyone else's secrets. He has enough money to litigate it and fight it. So like other owners might just be like, we're gonna get bullied by the league. This guy could probably cause a huge stink. So I wonder if the NBA is going to be like, let's just make this go away, like, here's your punishment. But like, let's just up about this, you know, Whereas I, I think it's, I personally believe it should be like, you're out of league. You're out of league. This is like a gross violation, but they're kind of in a Mexican standoff. It's like, who blinks first? Like, I will tell all your secrets. I will tie this up in legal for years. I will speak out against you and all the other corrupt things going on.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or you can make this disappear. You know, so it's in the sports world, I think gonna be. What do you, what do you think is gonna happen? I feel like since he just built that new stadium, he personally bought and built a two billion dollar arena.

[Jackie]

Oh, God.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's like, okay, you're gonna take the team away from me, but I still own the building, so whatever new owner is gonna have to like lease this from me or whatever. Yes. I'm sure there's also more that he's just like, he is a great owner otherwise, by the way, he's great for the league, he's great for the fans. So they probably don't want to like with their golden goose, you know.

[Jackie]

What are Clippers fans saying right now?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's a good question. I. I like, just came out this morning. By the way, the guy who broke at Pablo Torre is an ESP guy who has just completely established himself as this like, investigative journalist. It's kind of like gossipy. It's weird. It's like, it's a little bit salacious. Like he, he was kind of breaking news about Bill Belichick's girlfriend and like that stuff. So it's like, not necessarily like journalism because we're still talking about like sports and girlfriends and. But it is like he's starting to really go down that road of like, investigating and getting the dirt. He has like these sources. He had someone from the company, the tree company, speak, like anonymously about. She was like, I was the one looking at the books and I was told don't ask any questions about this. So he's really done a good job of establishing like, that he is the guy to break these stories. I would be like, almost scared if I was him. That's a guy like, Steve Ballmer is going to have you fucking killed, dude.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But the Clippers fans, I would imagine, like me personally. So the owner of the Mets is another Steve who's got billions of dollars.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And crazy art collection. And there's been some shady stuff with his, like, hedge funds. And I'm of the school of mind, like, like, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. You know, like, if. Especially whenever everyone else is probably doing it's like, you got to keep up, you know, just don't get caught.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So it's just like, rich people are.

[Jackie]

Going to do shady shit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Totally.

[Jackie]

And.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And a lot of times it's not even shady. A lot of times it's just like, this is a loophole. This is a tax loophole that they're taking advantage of. You're just like, dumb or not rich enough to do it, you know, Then there's also like, they're just doing probably illegal or immoral. And if you want to. It's sort of like what I just said about the Internet. Like, if you want to keep up, these are things you got to do. Whether it's like, you know, illegal, immoral, or bending rules or whatever. Like. Yeah, you don't have to. But also those guys are gonna lap you, you know?

[Jackie]

So now do you think that there's gonna be other, like, I would imagine that he would try and pull what other team. Shady stuff.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's what I'm saying. So, like, I feel like if the NBA is like, all right, you have to sell your team. He's gonna be like, okay, well, then, you know who else does? The Knicks, because they're all doing it too. And then it's like, okay, wait a minute. We can't have. Like, it's one of those things that, like, I would, as a sports fan, like, I've always thought this was happening on some level. I didn't know it was happening. Like, the pro ranks, obviously, college, it happens all the time, but it's almost college, like, now might be cleaner than the NBA. Right. At least it's all, like, above board. Yeah. I mean, I. I was of the school of thought. Like, for years, Tom Brady was paid lesser than he should have gotten. And they. A lot of people were like, oh, he's such a good, like, leader. He wants that money to go to other players so the team will be better. And a lot of people are like, he's his rich. His wife is so rich that they don't need the money. So he's like letting the team. He's giving like a team friendly deal. I'm sure some of that was true. I'm also sure they were like, Tom Brady is an institution with the Patriots. Here's like, yeah. Or even little things like, you know, why. Why do you want to be rich as an athlete? To, like, buy a yacht if your owner is like, you can use my yacht.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

All summer long. Now I have a yacht. Yeah, that's worth. That's worth you know, the $10 million, I didn't put that in my contract. I didn't. You know what I mean? So, like, what are the rules? What are the loopholes? What are the things that are blatantly breaking it. It. Who else is doing it? I think are all the questions that, like, are going to be asked. As a fan, I would be mad. Like, don't get caught.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I don't. I guess a lot of ways how, like, you set up these LLCs and these shell corporations and offshore accounts, and that's how these rich people do it. So I'm sure they've figured it out. They're smarter than I am. But I also feel like by. By creating a company and tying it to this people when they go bankrupt, you're.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why isn't it not just like a bag of cash every year? I mean, I guess it's hard when you talk about 30 million.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But, yeah, you got to figure out ways to, like, launder the money and transfer the money and all that sort of. So.

[Jackie]

So is that a form of money laundering?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, pretty much, I think. Yeah. I mean, anything that's like. I mean, art is the big one. A lot of times art is like tax evasion, where it's like, you have $100 million that you have to pay taxes on. But if I, like, buy it, if I use it to buy this thing and invest it and write it off as this way, I don't have to pay taxes on it, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then it. I think it becomes a very. As long as everyone in the art world agrees, let's all just, like, inflate these prices, you know, the artists win. Because my picture of a. Just a blue square is now worth 50 million bucks.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And the people paying for it are like, that's actually a good thing because I can, like, hide $50 million, whatever. So all those things are. Are a way to either launder money or evade taxes or just straight up, you know, shift money around. But it's. I think it's happening everywhere. So how. How badly can you punish one guy if he's going to turn around and say, everybody's doing it?

[John]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, because that. Because then the league has a problem where it's like, fans are like, oh, wait a minute. None of this is. There's no integrity in any of this.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, like, I can't even root for this because it's like, how do I even know my team has a fair shot? You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

So you Think it's just like blind eye kind of.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, baseball went through it with steroids where it was like, everyone's doing it, but some players aren't. But you know, and it's like you gotta keep baseball really ran into a problem in 94. Baseball went on strike. They were arguing over money and the players were like, we're not showing up. And a whole season went by. They missed the whole season. And a lot of fans were like, I'm never going to watch this again. Like you guys are arguing over millions of dollars and you fucked us over and we don't have our team to watch anymore.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So like ratings were way, way, way down. And then a few Years later in 98, everyone was doing steroids and they were breaking their home run records.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And everybody loved it. It brought everybody back because they were mashing home runs. But it was like one corrupt thing being erased by another corrupt thing in steroids. So it's all, there's all just always like shady going on. Especially in sports. Any like multi billion dollar industry. And it's sort of like don't get caught, don't ask, don't tell. And then when we do, when you do get caught, like what the do we do?

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You know, I feel like almost it's like if it were to be a. And again, I know nothing about sports but like I feel like when the Patriots had like that run of like winning every single championship, whatever. And then if you realize that they were doing shady and you're like, well now you kind of like made the sport not even interesting and entertaining to anybody. Like if the Clippers were. I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, it didn't work out for them but like, yeah, if they were dominating.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think of it more.

[Jackie]

This is even entertaining to anybody anymore because you corrupted it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like the people. I mean, you know, I do believe that some shady was going on with Brady and the Patriots. I don't, I don't want to, I'm not gonna like discredit their dynasty. Like it's not that bad. But if there, let's say there was. Right. Let's say the Patriots were doing some really shad and you're the franchise who like lost to them.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, a couple times or whatever. It's like those should be our championships.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And that changes the trajectory of your whole life. If your franchise wins and I'm the quarterback who won. Like you're taking money out of people's pockets, you're changing legacies. You're. You Know, it's like a butterfly effect. Is it? Was that.

[Jackie]

It's like a monopoly, but.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, exactly like that. So the, the effects are pretty, like wide reaching. That's going to be an interesting one for the NBA to navigate for sure. As a fan, my first reaction was like, I just hope my players, my. My owners don't get caught. Like, not like, oh, my team would never. It's like, just don't get caught.

[Jackie]

Like, I hope that we're doing that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Jackie]

Okay, I kind of saw, like, one clip.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Jackie]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, they tell a story. So do you remember when she first did the podcast with him? And then she deleted it?

[Jackie]

I didn't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

She. So she dropped a podcast with Drake. It was a big deal. It was up for, like, one or two days. Then it got deleted and he blocked her on everything.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And people were like, is this a publicity stunt? What's going on? Whatever happened over the last couple years, like, tensions have cooled. He comes back on the show and they tell a story where Drake says, Drake said they were like, bobby Altov went to a Drake concert. And she was like, I was texting with you. And I said, like, you said something to me that I didn't like. And I was pretty rude back. So I left the show. And as she left, she texted him, like, telling him off. She's like, you whatever. And she was like, I sent that to you thinking you were gonna get it later because you were on stage. And as I was leaving the arena, I could, like, still hear the music. And I got a text back from you. And it was him kind of being like, what the. You know, that sounds a lot like people who are involved in some way. You came out to my show. We were texting. We got in a text fight. Bobby Altoff even feels, like, entitled enough to be like, you, Drake. Like, no, nobody's doing that unless you have. You feel like you're allowed to.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And the reason why anybody speaks to each other that way is after you, and then you have feelings. And you know what I mean, right? If you're just still a Bobby Alto, the podcast, or you're friends with Drake, but you're still like, thank you for coming on my show. Like, thank you for having me. You know, you're not. You're not speaking your mind, you're not being rude. So anybody who starts really letting their feelings fly and then Drake quickly responding, being like, whatever he said, they didn't say what was in the text messages, but, like, I don't know. That sounds like something was going on there.

[Jackie]

I could so see that being a thing because he. He gives off kind of like. I think when guys have that much, like, suave and game, they almost have this complex where, like, they need to prove to themselves that they can get any girl and she has such a standoffish. Like, I don't want to.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Drake is a billion percent that guy.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, the amount of girls and, like, he's just. He's just gotta, like, everybody. Yeah. Every girl he. Everybody else's girl. He just can't not. It's like, Nikki Smokes.

[John]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

A billion.

[Jackie]

You know, be seriously so flattered if he heard that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I know he loves it. But, like, when I watched him be like, every. Every night, there would be like a late night tweet being like, I'm trying to these girls. What do you want me to do? The cameras are on me. Like, blah, blah. Because there were guys chirping and being like, you can't close or whatever.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

To even, like, care about that is still such a. Like a young man. Like, I gotta. These girls. Like, I. I promise, and I hope in a few years you would be like, I don't care. You know, like, that's a crazy thing to get worked up about. But I understand how it happens when you're young and other young guys are chirping at you and it's a macho thing. You would just think, like, I think even Nikki Smokes will get over that. That feeling in his life. Especially as you get more success and you have more experience with girls, good, bad, and otherwise. But for Drake to still be doing that, it's like you still need this validation from, like, these random girls and feeling like you have game and like, I your girl or whatever. Yeah. Yikes.

[Jackie]

But I'm sure, like, fame stunts your growth and more.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He's got, like, Arrested Development for.

[John]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

But, like, Bobby Altoff's personality is exactly that. Like, what. That personality.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah. Affects you the most. I just. When I see these things, it sounds like they now smooth it out. He's like, they're laying in bed together. He actually did a. I haven't seen the whole interview, but I saw enough good clips that I was like, I think I'm actually gonna go watch this whole interview, you. Because he had some good, good clips just about talking about people calling him a culture vulture and, like, addressing some of the rap stuff. He's a cool guy. I. I think I. I can't figure it out. I thought. I used to think so. And then, like, I think there's either two, like, schools of thought. One is like, oh, everyone's a hater and jealous that he's, like, at the top, which is entirely possible.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I also love the school of thought of, like, if. If everybody is saying something, it's probably true. So, like, when Kendrick Lamar came out was like, that guy. And all of his peers in the rap world were like, yeah, you're right. That guy.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Makes me think it's probably that guy, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm sure there's some jealousy and hate involved, but, like, when everybody comes out and is like, you don't move. Right. You like, you're shady, you're weird, we don't like you. Seems probably pretty unlikely that everybody is lying, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

But do you think it's not to keep comparing to Nikki smokes like a Nicky Smokes effect at all, where he has, like. Like, everyone like, shits on him and is like, oh, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy. But, like, at the end of the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Day, he's like, he's not. Yeah, he's like. But I think, like, it really sounds like Drake has, like, everybody's girlfriend and wife.

[John]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That. That is. And in the rap world, it's like everybody's. Is the rap world, like the shining example of how to treat women? No. Now, you know, so, like, let's relax. But if he's. If it's just like you. Yeah. Stop people's lives. Yeah, there's something to that.

[John]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Also, the bigger point to me is, like, not even necessarily like the. The whose girl it is or whatever. It's like, I think he's probably, what, like, 35, 30. It's like you're pushing 40 and you still are just like, doing this, you know?

[Jackie]

Do you think he ever gets married?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He should. I don't know. I don't know. I go back and forth on that because part of me is like, do whatever you want. Like, you don't have to get married, guy, girl or otherwise. Like, you know, it's probably smarter to in that career not have gotten married. You know, do your thing, travel. But I think, like, I think it would be good for him to, like, settle down a little bit in the sense of like, he's just still out partying girls in different countries, creating drama for yourself, like all that. Whereas like, if you, if you do just find one person you actually like who actually supports you and you just kind of like settle, that's a good thing, you know. But also people get mad like when like I, I, I want the old Kanye, right? Like, yeah, but he changed and evolved and it's like Drake hasn't changed and evolved, but people are mad about that. Whereas other rappers, like, oh, I wish they still rapped like they used to. It's like he's still rap, he's still giving you what you want. It's parties and girls. And I mean, in his case it's almost like whining about girls and crying about them. But he's been consistent and sometimes that's, people are like yearning for that. I wish the rapper was that way. I wish the actor was still like that. I wish the show was still that way. And then the one guy who is staying the same gets hit with like, well, you haven't changed or evolved, you know? Yeah, it's kind of like, well, which one do you want? You know? I think in his case the problem is that like his bread and butter is viewed as like a little bit childish and immature. Yeah, when you're young it makes sense and when you get old, it starts to get a little weird.

[Jackie]

Well, I personally like, I mean I, I like some Derek songs, but like every song of his kind of sounds.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The same to me nowadays for sure. That's, I mean, his is so like forgettable in my mind now. Where it used to be like hits, now it's like these are all just sound like he took like 15 minutes to make these, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I don't know, it doesn't seem to matter. Like his, you know, like Dante was saying, it's like people just put it on like no matter what the streams are going to be, the numbers are going to be there.

[John]

Like, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Forever.

[John]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I just, when I think about Bobby Altoff, man, I just think about her ex husband. That's got to be just like, where's he now? I don't know. I don't know enough about him. I'm not like, I'm just thinking from a point of view of like, it sounds like they had problems in their marriage or whatever. It was like as soon as she blew up, they split. And I think a lot of people were like, oh, this girl just like got famous and ditched him. And I think she had come out at one point and said, like, we were growing apart for a long time and it probably was like the nail in the coffin, but it's just gotta be.

[John]

Yep.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Wild to be like, I was married to this, like, cute little girl. She goes viral because she had one boob bigger than the other. It was during breastfeeding. It was just like, one boob got gigantic. Made a funny viral tick. Tock seems to have, you know, some. Some humor and some personality. Now she's a bell Drake.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Now she's like, you know, talking to every rapper in the world. Like, yeah, that is not there's anything wrong with it or like, he should be mad or anything. But it's just got to be when you're talking to your friends, when you're doing drop off and pick up and the transition with the baby and stuff, it's like, all right, I gotta get to work. Like, cool. I gotta go interview with Drake in his bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta. There's gotta be a level on some. On some immature macho that's like, yeah, God damn it, you're not winning. Winning that breakup.

[Jackie]

You know, his friends probably like, are you killing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Actually, it might be so bad that they're not.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

He also, he deep down knows, like, if he wrongs any of them at any point or.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or like, he's like, as soon as I leave the room, they're all talking.

[John]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, there's a. There's a second group chat without me that's like, yo, can you believe Bobby is like, probably Drake. Yeah, that's gotta be weird for, like, Jeff. Whatever the his name is. You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

And he's like, I can't even, like, flee the country because, like, I have these kids and.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And you also can't escape Drake, or.

[Jackie]

You could have the worst life in the entire world.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Like, that sucks.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I. I also hope maybe he's like, you know, if it was like, reversed, there'd be some ex wife just cashing those checks, being like, yeah, I get money from it, you know, I hope he's got some sort of. Probably not, because I don't think she was big when they broke up. But like, no, I. I be like, yeah, I do your podcast, girl. Send me that money.

[Jackie]

Wait, so I thought that she canceled the podcast.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So this is. This was episode one of, like, her. So I think. I think she just needed, like, a rebrand. And she was like, I'm canceling the podcast again. She was pretty funny about that. She was like, this fleeting moment of fame went faster than I thought. So we're canceling this. And then this second one is. I think it's called who Asked for this?

[John]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So it's like she's leaning into the fact that people like who the wants this podcast, but when you get major guests like that. She said that when Drake blocked her, she had, like, a ton of famous people lined up that all pulled out.

[John]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So, like. Like, the boy still has the influence like that, where imagine that you have, like, I'm gonna do this rapper and this movie star, and then it's like somebody blocked me on Instagram and all goes away.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So she gonna still. Was she still doing her, like, dry humor?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I think it's the same. Same vibe, you know, I think it's a little less sticky. Like, she used to pretend to, like, not even know who people are and not know what anything means. I think it's just a little more dry humor. I haven't really listened to it, but it was enough that I think I would go give. Give that a listen.

[Jackie]

But do you think. What was the clip, the magician clip with Bobby Altoff and some female rapper, musician?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was like a Sukiana or whatever her name was, right?

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

Is that fake where she.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think that's just, like, well done. Where she, like, pretends to not know what the word magician means. Right. Something like that. I think that was fake.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But you want to live in that world where it's like, is that fake? Is it not? Like, that was well executed if it. If it is fake.

[Jackie]

Yeah, for sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I just don't. People seem. You know, she's a lightning rod, too, where people, like, hate on her and I'm like, like everything else, the proof is just, like, in the pudding. Like, I'm sure there are rap journalists. It's a big thing in rap. It's like, Drake doesn't ever sit down with, like, rap journalists.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There are people who, like, really could dig in and have a good conversation and ask him the hard questions, and he doesn't do it. People think that's because he's ducking the people who would expose him or ask him tough questions. That's all probably true, but, like, Drake gets to. To do his press how he wants to do his press. And for a girl like Bobby Altoff, like, if you can book Drake.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then Drake and then book Yachty and then book whoever else she's gotten, and you get these views, like, as much as I Was saying earlier that the Internet has now become this machine. She definitely has a machine behind her. It's actually very. The parallels between Drake and his music and Kendrick Lamar and the bots and all that is very prevalent. But, like, we're still at the point where you can't completely manufacture someone. Like, there are industry plants, and there are people who get boosted and propped up and all that. But there's got to be enough there where. Like, her dry sense of humor, the fact that it's ironic that rappers are sitting down with her. Like, there's something to it, you know? I don't know. Is it right or wrong or fair to the journalists? Who cares? Shut up.

[John]

Grow up.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I mean, viral. She's popular. Deal with it. Old man who's, like, working for a magazine. I don't know. You know?

[John]

Yeah, I.

[Jackie]

It's like, kind of like an interest. It's like a different angle that not really anybody else.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. There's something unique to it, you know, I think he should. He should mix it in because, like, rap fans, I would like to hear a real interview. But also, I mean, it's very like, what, you stop at a bar store, People are like, that's not real journalism. Like, we don't care. That's not what we're doing. But then, like, even we become like, you know, there are people. Why is Bobby Altoff getting, like, interviews? It's like, we used to be those guys.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Who got criticized for that, and we said off. And now, like, people are doing it to her. It's like.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's just always new waves that maybe don't make sense or aren't fully earned, but that's part of going viral and, like, just capturing lightning in a bottle, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You see she and shine. What is it? I always get she in. Right.

[John]

But then.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But, like, I feel like there's sheen. There's, like, a debate over which way you say it. Right? There's like, girls are like, no, it's sheen or, like, no, it's shine or whatever the it is.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I say she and she.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And she is just like, a gigantic sweatshop, right? She's like, you can get dresses for, like, $3, right? It's, like, insanely cheap, Right?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And it's shitty quality. Or it's, like, really shitty quality, but just, like, looks hot for a night. You're good.

[Jackie]

But it's like, you. You also hear of brands that are, like, more expensive, that are from the same. Same, same factory.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think women's clothes is fascinating to me. I feel like from a guy's point of view, the difference between, like, a fancy suit, an expensive suit, and a cheap suit is very obvious.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Is. Do you think that for women's clothes.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, like, like, you'll, you'll be like, that's a shitty dress, versus, like, that's a beautiful dress.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You can tell that.

[Jackie]

I feel like the, the material, it's like you could just tell from, from.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, a picture, though.

[Jackie]

It's harder, I think. I also think, like, especially with, like, fake bags and, like, there's some really good dupes and everything like that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Jackie]

I think it's harder with, like, clothing material just because, like, the way a dress sits, like, you just tell when it's. Zara.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. It was kind of what we were saying about Dave on the last podcast. Like, when you have money and you get a stylist and you get tailored clothes, it just looks better. But I feel like, at least with girls, like, if I, if I see you at the Met gala, I can basically assume that you're wearing, like, something really nice. But I'm sure there are pictures of girls that I see where I'm just like, wow, you look amazing in that dress. And it's like, $2.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You know, and I think that you could hide it with a. Accessories as well. Like, you could, like, if you accessorize it, then it could look a lot more expensive than it is.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I, I, I'm, I'm. And I'm sure the person wearing it, if you're just beautiful or your body is banging or whatever, it hides it or, or doesn't really matter, but I, but if you took, like, two, let's say they're equally hot, perfect bodies, attractive, whatever. Put one in a fancy dress, one in a not fancy dress, and I couldn't touch it or, like, see it up close, I don't think I'd ever know. But I think, like, a suit, you almost could, like, right away. Like, I don't know.

[Jackie]

Yeah, because, because, like, that is the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There'S like, a suit is kind of like, there's different colors and. But it's like, it's, it's supposed to, like, look this way. Whereas a dress can be short, it can be long, it can be flowing, it could be. You know what I mean?

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So there's no, like, dress, like, accentuates, like, a woman's body.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

The suit is the, is the thing you're looking, you're looking at. So, like, maybe.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's weird, though, how Guys look like when I put on a suit, I'm like, I definitely look my best right now. I don't know if it's in my mind or if there's a physical, like the shoulder, like. Or square, and the. The button, like, pulls it in. I don't know if it's like, it actually looks better or. Because it's like, you could be a schlub. You don't have a good body. Whatever it is you put on a suit, you do look better.

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, I think it's like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Is it. Do you think it's that or is it like you're just kind of programmed to be like, you're in a suit, you're looking classy, you're looking sharp.

[Jackie]

Well, I also think that there's an element to, like, girls, like, guys who can provide. Guys who can provide money, the status and like, the you should look at, like, me type thing. I'm trying to think of, like, is there any element of, like, sweatpants, hair tied, children with no makeup on for a guy?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, it's the gray sweatpants.

[Jackie]

The gray sweatpants?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's more like a sexual thing.

[Jackie]

Yeah, sexual thing. Like, I mean, I guess when a guy, like, wears like a night, like, nice athleisure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I do you. I. I feel like at least in my generation, it was like sweatpants, white tee, backwards hat, like, hat fishing type vibe.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

She's like, yeah. Jackie just like, looked off at the distance, like. Yeah.

[Jackie]

No, no, no. I was thinking more like how douchey it was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was always surprised by that because, like, again, maybe that's not like your generation, but mine, there always was hat fishing and a beard, and there was like, at least tweets and tick tocks that were like, sweatpants, T shirt, hat. Right. But I could also see a world where, like, it. Women would go viral being like, look at this schlub in a backwards hat and sweatpants. You know what I mean?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You have to like the guy, I think.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

For that to be the look, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I wonder, is there. Is there a look for a guy, though? Like, the equivalent of like, yoga pants and those things that are kind of like. This is just to show off your body, I guess, with guys. Unless you have a good body. Yes.

[Jackie]

The great sweatpants probably be that. I mean, like, well, not in a good way, but like a muscle tank.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. You look like a douchebag.

[Jackie]

You look like a douchebag. But like, I guess, like, if you want to show off your arms and like legs like shorts.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Has Danny sent you any twerking videos?

[Jackie]

Any twerking?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Twerking, dorking, Twerking with your dick.

[Jackie]

Oh, naturally.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Twerking in. In a pair of gray sweatpants.

[Jackie]

Yeah, he actually has sent a lot of them. That's, you know. You know, daddy, that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That is a weird. Have you seen that? I mean, that's like working is like a little bit of a thing that I quite literally never heard of. That I think is a joke. But I think some women want to see it. I mean, it's just like you're in. You're just kind of like thrusting.

[John]

Oh. You're like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, it's probably like you're literally wearing just gray sweatpants and you're probably like halfway half mask. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like a pendulum, like swinging in there, which is funny.

[Ravi]

Like that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, but I. But you know, it's like, it's like a. A offshoot of dick pics where it's like there are girls who are definitely like a certain. And I'm not talking about like unsolicited. That's a whole different story. But I think there are girls who are like, ew, like gross. I never want to see dick pics. And then there are girls who are like, send me your dick. I want to see your dick.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think twerking is kind of like a funny offshoot of that where it's like people are laughing about it. But I wonder if there are some girls who are like, I want to see your dick in those gray sweatpants.

[Jackie]

I mean, I could see how that's like, if you want to see a dick, that's probably less jarring way than like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But it's also like a goofy.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like you could be hot and have a great dick, but like, the minute I send you a video, like humping, you look ridiculous.

[Jackie]

Well, the off putting part of that is like the. You're trying really hard.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And like that's. That's really weird.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It definitely can't be something where you're like, check this out, baby. It's got to be like, hey, did you see Dorking? Lol. This is funny. Then you send it and then maybe there's also a part of her that's like, it's actually kind of hot or whatever. I don't think it can be like late night, yo, check on me. Dorky.

[Jackie]

I think, I think if you're a guy and you're debating sending a dorking video or not, just don't probably Err on the side of caution.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Err on the side of not dorking.

[Jackie]

But I don't want to tell you how to live your life. So if you want dork, go ahead, maybe twerk.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think though, there's a lot of girls who don't admit that they want to see some things.

[John]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, I do mean in terms of like actual like dick pics or all of it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Any of it. Like any sort of sex thing where it's like, obviously the female body is hotter and like, it's sexier for them and dicks are like a little bit weird and stuff. But I just feel like if you are like sexual and you're into someone and the same way guys want to like, see stuff and talk about stuff, it's like girls are going to want to do that too.

[Jackie]

Yeah, totally. I. I would imagine that. I would imagine, like also just like in the heat of the moment, it's like, right, you want to see it all.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying like, you know, Tuesday at 11am yeah.

[Jackie]

You're like, I need to see a dick right now.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. But if you're into that person, it's all like kind of, and you're like.

[Jackie]

I just sense it like, sent, like, show me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

I would imagine, like, I don't think it's like, I think the, the, you know, men sending a lot of unsolicited dick pics has ruined.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think that's the problem is that it kind of gets associated with like straight up predator behavior.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And you guys see, you know, your dicks all the time as a girl. Like, just, it's. The look of a penis is so jarring that it's just like, you gotta be mentally prepared. You have to be in the mindset of, I'm ready to see a deck. I want to see it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, you're like, you're turned on and you're, you know, into it.

[Jackie]

So then it's like, I have, I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Have a thought that better, like, having a better looking dick is more important than like, yeah, size. I like, you could be really big, but if it is weird and curved and veins and weird holes and stuff, it's like, what the is this? Whereas, like, if it just looks the way it's supposed to look, it's like, not as jarring.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, I totally, like, I wonder.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, it almost should be girls being like, does he have a big dick? It's like, does he have a good Looking dick. That should be the. The standard. Not the size, the beauty.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like a girl. It's like, she's pretty.

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

It's like you just don't want to see something that's kind of like alien, like.

[John]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's a very weird appendage, that's for sure.

[Jackie]

That's a great point. Were you there for the. Like. I think I was saying it's kind of. I personally, like, I don't really focus that much on.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Jackie]

Like this, like, the size. It's like I'm so in my head the first few times I'm having sex.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You can say sex. Yeah, I know.

[Jackie]

I know exactly that. I'm like. I'm focused on me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

And then. And then until I have, like, the mind, the headspace to focus on you. I'm already emotionally attached to you because I've already had sex with you. So it doesn't matter. I don't know if maybe I'm just more into insecure. So, like, size doesn't matter as much, but I feel like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think it's, you know, I think first of all, I think the vast, vast majority of dicks are just like, okay, yeah, yeah. There's some outliers that are like, micro. And there's some outliers like, oh, my God, you should be in porn or whatever.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then everyone else is just, like in the middle, you know, and it's.

[Jackie]

Like if, if, if, you know, it's just the ease. It's like the way that girls on the Internet, the two things that they get made fun of is weight and nose. I feel like the most. It's like the easiest thing to cut a guy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Totally. You have a small, like, you know. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Runs with it, you know, the whole.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Reason I even brought up any of this is to go back to she. She and. Yeah, they're using. They're using Luigi Mangioni's face in an ad. I don't know how we ended up on dicks, but yeah, they're like one of their. Ad. One of their models. Is it his actual face or just, like, made to look a lot like him? Like, aied his face? Yeah. Somebody else's body. Yeah. Like, it's definitely not him. I'm wondering if they took his literal face or if they just made, like, let's have a guy with curly hair, bushy eyebrows. Like, whatever, it'll look like him, but either way, it's like, very much a Luigi Mangioni, like, campaign, which is just all that just still blows my mind to this day.

[Jackie]

And.

[John]

And.

[Jackie]

And what does it say on the campaign?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just, I don't know. I think it's just, like, a model. Like, if you just go to, like, sheen, it's like, look at this shirt. And it's just like, him. Him, like, which is kind of crazy because he's a murderer.

[John]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, let's do Aaron Hernandez, too. Let's put. You know, let's put all the murderers in there.

[Jackie]

And I think it's also just kind of like, it's not really talked about. It's kind of like, late in the game.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of died down a little bit. Yeah, you missed the window.

[Jackie]

But I guess actually, it's like, if it had been during that window when it was fresh on everyone's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I don't know, I. I would think it would be portes. But no, most people would be like, hell, yeah. Like, let's go buy she.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It's like, all girls. And, like, it's not right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. I was even surprised. I didn't even know they sell men's clothing.

[John]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

I guess that they kind of do. I don't know if men have you ever heard of.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

See, that's something like, I would never like buying a cheap. A girl could put out a cheap dress and look hot. A guy puts on cheap clothes. You look, like, cheap. You know, like, that dress might last you one single night, and it's garbage, but you're gonna look hot that night.

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

She.

[Jackie]

And though it's like, you could tell.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're wearing, like, a button up from she and you're.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think there's one more thing. Oh. I guess why we're talking about this. Jackpot's using me as a model for their ads. Oh, yeah. Supposedly. So she.

[Jackie]

And she.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, she and Might have photoshopped Luigi Mangioni's face onto their models. Jackpot, I think. Jackpocket. No, it's not their fault. I think it's barstool.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So Jack pocket. I've been doing a lot of ads with Jackpocket right now because the powerball's up to 1.3 billion. And anytime these things get big, you can use my promo code, either KFC2 or Kevin2, and you get free lottery credits. So when the. The. The jackpots are big, I do a lot of these ads, and one of them is a story on my Instagram, where I am in the bottom corner. A picture of these in the bottom corner. Jack McCarthy sent those to, like, the Sammy and the people working on this ad. And she said to me, do you want me to. Do you want to. Is this picture okay? That's how she framed it. And I just said, yes, because I'm not a diva and I'm not going to be like, no, go get me a different picture of my. She was like, some people definitely did that. I was like, these.

[Jackie]

He definitely could have.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I could have. But whatever. I was just like, yeah, it's fine.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And people were like, this is gross. You look gross. And I was like, you're right, I do. And then I started to look closer. I can't believe I didn't like. It's just. I'm just so oblivious. There's like, whatever. Here's the ad. Here's the. I'm like with my eyes closed. Here you go. Then I look closer at me. And don't get me wrong, my face is gross. I have a neck beard. I'm fatter than I was. The head is not looking great. The body I'm wearing. The only reason I know that this. I don't think this is me is because it's. The one piece of clothing that I am, like, vehemently opposed to is a short sleeve button up. And I have a T shirt on underneath it, which, if you know me, everyone's always like, I can't believe you don't wear T shirts under your hoodies. I can't believe you don't wear undershirts under your shirt. I never wear undershirts. So, like, that's. And the picture is a short sleeve button up with an undershirt. Yeah, I don't think it's me, but. But she was like, these are the pictures from your, like, headshot day. Which makes me double think, I would never wear that and look like that to my headshot day. But I also don't think Jack McCarthy's sitting there like, okay, wait, you need. You need a picture of Kevin for an ad? Let me Photoshop his head onto someone else's body. It also kind of looks like my arm.

[Jackie]

It is. It looks like your arm. A few things go together. It looks like your arm. And I. I do weird stuff with.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

My arms and pictures.

[Jackie]

Wait, can I. Can you pull it up again?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I personally know that, like, you before, like, you will switch, like, sweatshirts and whatever without even really thinking of it.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I know that the one short sleeve shirt that you had. Was the one that you got from the wedding. For the wedding.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. That was the only time I really wore one was. I was in a jam. I lost my suit. I was going to Captain Khan's wedding. I had to go to like a Walmart to buy clothes. And they had like short sleeve Dwight Schrute button ups. And I was like, I gotta. It was on a suit. My jacket was on. It was a cheap suit. Didn't look great, but I was like, whatever, it's a black shoot. Yeah, it was a sheen suit. And then it was hot. It was outdoors down in Florida. And I took my jacket off and I had the Dwight Trude on. And people were like, what the fuck, bro? My shoes were like made of plastic. I mean, I look like a fat, like, chemistry teacher. I look like a high school teacher. I look like a substitute teacher in high school, right? I walk in like, I'm Mr. Clancy. I'll be your teacher for today. And everyone's like, fuck you. They throw shit at me and they don't respect me. That's me. That's. That picture.

[John]

That's.

[Jackie]

That's incredibly accurate. Like, to a T. I was gonna say like. Like the way I was remembering it was more priest. Like. Okay, okay, now that you said substitute teacher and this shirt looks just like not good quality, but that looks a.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Little lineny too, maybe. So maybe I did buy a white short sleeve.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I never would wear a linen shirt with a undershirt. I just wouldn't.

[Jackie]

There's a lot going on in this photo.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't think it's me, but I also don't think there's a world where Jack or somebody would Photoshop me into their. I can see your arm. Yeah.

[Jackie]

So you do have that elbow. Like just a little definitive baby elbow lines. Do you know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I got baby elbows. No, no, no, no.

[Jackie]

Baby elbow. Do you know what I mean? Where. Okay, like where your elbow used to be when you're a baby, there's a crease there. Like here. Yeah, like that. Because that's. Your arm grew, but your arm used to be creased there when you were a child.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay. I also think that's like a bicep thing where your muscles supposed to start.

[Jackie]

I also think it's my massive biceps.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, I think it's my lack of bicep. I also do this weird. I do this weird thing when I take pictures and I. You got it too. But isn't that. That's like right where your bicep is right like, you're.

[Jackie]

But, like, right there, you can see.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. You have, like, a definitive line.

[Jackie]

Yeah, everyone kind of has it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

When I. I noticed this in college, especially when I was drunk, and I would take pictures, like, at the bar, do this weird thing. I go like this. A lot of times I will have my, like, paraplegic. Like, very. Like, like, why. Why do you. Disabled. Like, I don't know. I would just put my hands up. I don't know. I could be like. And also, like, I'm a very, like, Ricky Bobby. Like, I don't know what to do with my hands. Like, I think that's why a lot of times people, when they take pictures, they, like, put their hands together or behind their back or whatever. Do a point piece, whatever. Because, like, when you're just standing there, I think I look like a robot if it's too, like, flat. But then when I let it go, normally, they're kind of like I'm like a cardboard cutout. I don't know.

[Jackie]

In a weird way, I wish I almost had more of that where I. I put my hands out a lot in photos. Massive.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Huge.

[Jackie]

And then it just, like, takes away.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You do that. Yeah, yeah. Stuff because you put it, like, a little closer. It's like a perspective closer.

[Jackie]

I put it, like, near my face.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Which just, like, adds perspective is not there.

[Jackie]

Elements and everything. So I wish I had more.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It'd be. You'd be tough for dick pics if you had one. I know. That'd be like, yeah, I hope the sizes match up, because your hands would dwarf it.

[Jackie]

We talked about this on Beach House. Like, what size dick we all thought that we have. I thought, you know, notoriously, like, I have always thought. My friends thought, like, I'd have a massive. I actually know in my heart that I would have a massive dick.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm surprised you say that, because you usually are insecure to the point that I thought you were going to be like, I. I'd have a tiny dick.

[Jackie]

Like, yeah, no, I know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, no, but I mean, you have gigantic appendages. So, like, if those. If that, like, theory holds up, which I think it's a little bit of a myth, but I also think it's kind of true. You have huge, huge hands. Massive hands. Water ski.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Boots for feet.

[Jackie]

All right. Paraphernalia. Yeah, they're. They're big. But, like, the appendages aside, like, I just know, like. Like, I'm very insecure. But, yeah, you don't get.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You don't have big dick energy. What Are you talking about.

[Jackie]

No, no. But like, at the end of the day, like, when you guys know me at my most anxious.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

True. Like, I am always so with your friends, you're different.

[Jackie]

Just, like, seriously on the edge of a. In my head, you know, whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I'm never in a good state when I'm in these doors, outside these doors.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

How are you not at a good state?

[Jackie]

Energy all the time.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

How are you not in a good state when you come in these stores?

[Jackie]

I'm not actually, like, always in a good state. I want to be very clear. I'm very insecure in every aspect of my life. But I'm a lot less insecure when.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You'Re drunk with your friends.

[Jackie]

When I'm drunk, when I'm with my friends, when I'm like, just, you know, in comfortable space.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Would you. Okay, let's take it a step further. If you did. If you were a guy or if you. If girls had dicks or were trans or something. Whatever. Whatever hypothetical you want to. You want to say, would you be a. Would you, like, flaunt it? Would you act like it? Because I feel like there's two different. There's the guy who's like, I have a big dick and I know it, and I show it off. I talk about it. Every girl knows about it. And then there are the, like, the silent types who are like, you don't say anything. And then girls are like, whoa, I didn't know. You're hiding this thing.

[Jackie]

You know, that's what I would like to. To. To believe.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Would be flashy about it. You'd be. You'd be.

[Jackie]

I would be pretty humble about it. And then, like, that's a good word for it. When. When people figure it out, it'd be like, wow, that makes you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Isn't it so weird that, like, even you're saying, like, girls often at least are not thinking about it, don't care about it, don't want it to be too big or whatever. But if you were to have a dick, you'd be like, yeah, I got a big dick.

[John]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Such a dumb.

[Jackie]

Because it would just be like, I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's got to be something cool about it, right? Yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, it's being like, bigger is.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Better and everything in the world, it's like, I don't know.

[Jackie]

There.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There are times you don't. Wouldn't want to have a big car, but if you do have, like, a big muscle car, it's like, yeah, I got a big muscle car.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And like, I, like. I'm also not saying that, like, a big dick isn't like, doesn't feel. Feel good, you know, Like, I never said that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Hey, Danny. Hey. So how big is Danny's dick? No, how does that look?

[Jackie]

I'm not answering any questions. But yeah, Brie said that she would have, like a long skinny dick. And I could see that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, that's like her body.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. So I could see.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What were the rest of the girls? What were they like?

[Jackie]

I don't know if anybody else. Oh, Ella said that she would have like, she would have a short, like, chode.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Can I see that too?

[Jackie]

And she's like a short girl, but it'd be thick.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Thick. Yeah, but what a word. Girth. I feel like if girth was like a person, they'd be like, what the man?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like my whole brand just got shot. Nobody thinks of anything when. Other than a dick. When you hear the word girth. Yeah, they used to play. They. Girth probably used to be used like in, I don't know, like business or like. Like you're a carpenter. Like, oh, that tree was girthy. Whatever the it is, you know, like, you probably used to use the word girth and then it just became straight dicks all the time.

[Jackie]

But I was ever used.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I could see that being like an old timey word where it was like, yeah, I was working on like this. This like, construction site today was really girthy. The pole. I don't know what the. And now it's like everyone. Dick.

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

What was the origin of what we were looking at up at one point? The gang bang one. The gang.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Gang bang was a great one. That was. That was a great job by you.

[Jackie]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Which came first, gang bang or gang bang?

[John]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Which came first? Like girth as in dick or girth as in like probably whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Anyway, you got a big dick. I have a big dick.

[Jackie]

The most important thing. Oh, here's your phone.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But do you. So final answer. Do you think this is me?

[Jackie]

I think it is. And I think that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

How did it when.

[Jackie]

Because I remember that we had that short sleeve shirt.

[Bri (Brianna)]

That's not that shirt.

[Jackie]

That shirt. It's like a linen shirt.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So now I have multiple short sleeve shirts. That shirt went from the wedding to the mannequin. That was it. And now it's in the garbage. I guess I don't even know where it is. And I don't wear undershirts.

[Jackie]

You don't wear undershirts, but you would wear an undershirt if there was a shirt.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If that was like, a Roback shirt and they were like, I need an ad, I put it on. But, like, there's no logo. There's no. Nothing that I know of.

[Jackie]

Bare bottom, maybe. I. I do. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Jack McCarthy's with you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That is out of the realm of possibility. That would be good.

[Jackie]

Jack McCarthy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If Jack McCarthy is photoshopping my head onto someone else's body for Jackpocket ads, he is the craziest person.

[Jackie]

He kind of has that, like, maniacal.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Like, he would do that to Rico, though.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I just don't think we. I mean, me and Jack are just like, whatever, you know, But.

[Jackie]

But, like, your point? Like, he has that. That dog in him, and I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It would be a mean thing.

[Jackie]

There's no way that he did that. But it's not out of the realm of possibility, is my point. I highly doubt it. I think it's probably. Do you know what year that was taken? Like, how old you?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No clue, man. I was, you know, I'm fat in it, so it was definitely several months ago.

[Jackie]

That almost looks like during the loaf of bread in your chin phase. No offense.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Yeah. You're not wrong.

[Jackie]

So that would have been a lot of years ago.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's so, like, there are definitely times I thought I was like, I'm fat. I need to lose weight. And then there's plenty of times I was like, I look the way I look. And now that I lost weight, I'm like, oh, my God, I was fat.

[Jackie]

But I never, like, thought in the moment.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I know. I know. You almost need the comparison, though. It's like, yeah, if I show you pictures, me now and then, it's like, yikes.

[Jackie]

It was never bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

All right. Anything else? Are we good to go?

[Jackie]

I don't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay. All right, that's it. Let's. Let's get into our interview now with Bri and Ravi. They did Special Forces. They told us all about it. It is a wild experience. I. I don't know if everything made the cut, because I think they had to do some legal stuff, but they were spilling the beans. It is a great interview with two, you know, two worlds colliding from the KFC radio world. Ravi and then Brie coming together. It's a wild one. So let's get into it. It's Ravi and Bri on KFC radio, talking Special Forces. Let's get into it. There he is. What is. Oh, boy. I feel like me and John should maybe just check out and let you two just, you know, reconnect. Reunite.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Okay with that. Dude, let's talk about this set.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We are. Because assuming we. No, no, this is. That's a bad sign, by the way. This is our communal. This is our communal podcast. Somehow our actual studio is a downgrade. Oh, for sure.

[Unknown Male Guest]

For sure. It's the one I've seen. I'm just going to eat grapes while we're talking. You said you had to find Bri. What? What is that? That's how it works there. You guys are just, like, all there.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

She's just right next door.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I was in my studio, but, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It'S usually just like, run around until you find somebody.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah, that's great. Bri. What does this look? You look great.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Thanks. I know. I have dark hair now. I dyed it.

[Ravi]

When did you die? Because I thought the same thing when you walked in.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, I died it, like, last week.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Hell, yeah.

[Ravi]

That was very nice.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Were you always this tan? Is the hair making you look tanner?

[Bri (Brianna)]

No, I've been at the beach.

[Unknown Male Guest]

There you go. That's an obvious answer and.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, no, no, no. It's not the obvious answer. You really think it is. Brianna's on another show where they send 10 animals from Barstool to a beach house to live, like, Jersey Shore style.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Oh, wait, no, I saw. She's not.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, no, no. She's at the beach house. I'm in.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Fucking hell. It might be worse than Special Forces.

[Unknown Male Guest]

No, that's gonna be.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I watched a clip about. Online about. I mean, that. That looks insane, but. Why would you do that?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Torture. I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I said if they offered me $500,000, I would say no.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Did it for free. If anything, I'm losing stock after doing this fucking show.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, I mean, it is. It is insanely entertaining. And I do actually think the way they're shooting it, Ravi, is like, instead of cameras and episodes, it's just people with phones, and it's all real time. And it's gotten, like, a billion impressions on social media, so it's very, like, new age. But I do think it's kind of like pioneer. Ish. Trailblazer. Ish. That people are gonna be, oh, like that now.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It totally reminded me of, like, the old, like, the OG reality. Trash. Sorry. That's the word. You know, it's like, what was that. What was that show with Puck. That's what it reminded me of.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The real world.

[Ravi]

Real world, yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

That's what it felt.

[John]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Because people. It basically is like getting wasted and each other and then getting upset about it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yes. Rinse, wash, repeat, over and over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it, man.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Every day in a row. Blackout. I still feel hungover.

[Ravi]

How much are you drinking? Because I know you've kind of toned down drinking. Are you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, judging by the somersaults on the pavement to get home the other night, I'd say she's drinking a decent amount.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I can't enjoy this unless I'm blacked out.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, well, when Bri started, she did the sleep when you're dead tour. And I feel like she died. Like you reached your limit, where she was like, I've got to sleep. Yes. I. Like, I've been doing five trainers.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Sleep when you're dead. But, like, I'm going to bed at 3am and they're like, you're going to bed, Grandma?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm like, it's tomorrow right now.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Well, it sounds like they're all doing blow.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So that's why on my show yesterday, he's like, why are you guys tired?

[Bri (Brianna)]

What's the problem?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You could go out on Sunday. And I was like, well, they've been going Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. He's like, what's the problem? I was like, well, they're not all doing tons of blow job.

[Ravi]

There's an easy fix. There's an easy fix.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Who is the dude that everyone is like, you fuck everyone? None of us like you. And then everyone still fucks you. Like, that is a fascinating sociological.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, that's Nicky Smokes. It is funny as much as it's confusing. It's kind of like douchebag guy who every now and then like, charms you and makes you laugh and seems endearing. And he. You. That's just.

[Unknown Male Guest]

He needs to write a book. I mean, that guy's impressive.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, like, he.

[Unknown Male Guest]

At the beginning of the night, it's like, you're a dick. Nobody likes you. You try to fuck everyone. No one wants to you. And then the next day, everyone's like, why did you that. That person that was telling you that you. That you were going to try to fuck them.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like, well, we're also. We're also, as the kids say, shipping the. The Bri and K Relationship. Because you guys.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yes, we kiss a lot.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

All the time.

[Bri (Brianna)]

All the time.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

All the time.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Is K the guy that I'm talking about?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, K is like, the giant man baby who's drunk literally 24 7, just stealing things and vibing out.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, he's the big boy.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Is that like. You're so big. I'm so out of your league. So I'm gonna give you these kisses and.

[Bri (Brianna)]

No, I'm just more so this is like a safe place for me.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah, I'm familiar with that kiss and I'm familiar with the sweet friendship kiss.

[Ravi]

Those kisses from about 04 to 2013.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Was so funny too, because leading up to this, he made a video that was like, I'm not gonna be like the center of this. I'm just gonna be like a vibes guy and kind of play the. Play the back. And now he's like a tornado that rips through like every single night. He's like front and center on stage, screaming lyrics, stealing things, riding bikes, whatever. It's like you. You said you were gonna be like the calm guy. I don't think that was a. On the honest assessment.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah, he looks like jumped into the Bert Kreischer character.

[Ravi]

Yep, yep.

[Unknown Male Guest]

By the way, John, I. I do feel like you were like that, but I feel like in the last two, three years, you've really come into, like, a style and a confidence. I mean, are you slaying now? What's going on?

[Ravi]

You slaying puss? Dude, I'm slaying dog, dude.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Rugby tonight. John's TV show, Drive drops.

[Unknown Male Guest]

What's that?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Bar school's first ever, like, scripted, like, you know, basically sitcom show, 30 Minute Episodes. Season one drops tonight on their YouTube.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Is this different from the one I saw you and you were really funny and you did out of order.

[Ravi]

Yes. So this is kind of like an extension of that. Most of the out of order guys got together, we got a couple other new people from the show, from the office, and we wrote a season of TV and then we shot it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And.

[Ravi]

And it comes. Or episode one comes out tonight.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The premiere was last week, like a full, real premiere in theater. And like between the first two episodes, it was great.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Dude, that's amazing. It makes perfect sense for you. You're a star, buddy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You're slaying.

[Bri (Brianna)]

You're gonna be so famous.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Do we get Heidelberg on animal control?

[Ravi]

I was saying that earlier. I said yesterday. I wasn't saying that exactly, but I was like.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I was saying. I was saying better shows, but the concept was there.

[Ravi]

No, no, no. I was speaking specifically about animal control.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, dude, I'll get you in there. I'll get you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's A big year for John. He started out, did some auditions, got on an appearance on Tires with Shane and Vince Vaughn, then dropped his own show. And then we'll wrap up this year doing opening for Bert at an arena.

[Unknown Male Guest]

So wait, what?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

You'll do stand up?

[Ravi]

I'm doing standing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Stand up?

[Ravi]

Yeah. I got you doing four shows.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Have you been practicing or you just. Those are gonna be your first shows?

[Ravi]

No, no, no. I, I, I honestly, I'm not that worried about that. I think I'll be okay.

[Unknown Male Guest]

You haven't done it sounds like a nose down.

[Ravi]

I haven't done it in, like, probably two months. But then we're going on tour for a month before.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Okay.

[Ravi]

So I'm probably gonna do like 10 or 15 shows.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Before for Bert, it was a classic. Bert. Like, I, I kind of lobbed up an alley. Oop, just being like, you know, my boy's doing stand up now. Like, just putting that out there. And Bert's like, do you want to open for me in, like, Connecticut at, like, a 15, 000 person arena or whatever it was. It was like, well, there's no turning back now.

[Ravi]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

He must love you because he definitely. Over some other opener.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's definitely somebody.

[Ravi]

I'm a Nepo, baby.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's cool.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It's so good to see you.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I know. Oh, my gosh. It's been so. It feels like a year ago.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It does.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, when, when you guys recorded. I remember all of the Internet sleuths predicted that Brie was gonna be on Love Island.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Because they were filming at, like, the same time. And she said, I'm gonna go off of Social for a little while. And people like, she's gonna be a bombshell on Love Island.

[Bri (Brianna)]

They were, like, comparing my, like, curtains in my hotel room to people.

[Jackie]

Were they really?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Like, it was crazy. I'm like, I couldn't have been somewhere further away from love.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Polar opposites of experiences on television.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Isn't that basically the show you're on now, but with a better budget and a hotter cast?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Luxury.

[Ravi]

Maybe the guy I'd sleep with.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, maybe one. Come on.

[Ravi]

May I ask, where were you specifically? Like, where in the world?

[Bri (Brianna)]

We were in Morocco.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Morocco?

[John]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

In the Moroccan.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was gonna say, like, the foothills. Are you in, like, the, the, like, where, like, literally, Are you, like, in a desert? Are you in the Atlas.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Atlas Mountains Desert? Yeah. Like, you know, poor villages, lots of actual desert.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I have a question for both of you.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It was, why?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why, why would anybody do this, you psychos?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Why did you, like, why did you agree to it?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Why is it more implausible that I would agree to?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Because, like, I didn't. Did you know what you were getting yourself into?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Not. I. I had seen, like, one and a half episodes, but it just looked. I. So I'm. Right now I'm trying to get hosting gigs with Fox. That's the real truth.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I had a good answer. I felt too held for a benefit my career.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I had a meeting with them. They like, what do you want to do? I said, my perfect gig is where I make as much money in as least time as possible. That's the job that I want. And hosting is one of those gigs. And so they asked. They've asked me to do everything that they're doing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Lego Master just came out last night. I'm in that. Like, I'm saying yes to a lot of things. And this one specifically. I mean, the thing is, most of these shows are things I would do for free. I love to have fun. I love games. I love trying hard, hard things. And this one came up, and I'm like, this looks like the experience of a lifetime. Like, I didn't get to do Outward Bound and all that kind of shit when I was a kid. And I always have, like, a little man complex about me. Like, I always think people think I can't get laid as much as I did or that I can't. That I can't. That I'm not as smart as I am or that I'm not as tough. Like, toughness is a big thing with me. And so I also have this, like, this complex. And so something like that was, like, a great opportunity. I've also been. The last two years, I've been trying to really get in the best shape of my life. And.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, we know because we get the shirtless selfies every now in the group chat. Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I've been meaning to launch Thirsty Thursdays, but I don't have the attention to deep. Like, I can't focus. Thursday went by. I'm like, oh, well, there goes that one campaign.

[Ravi]

Is this something, Ravi, you've always been interested in? Because I know we talked about maybe doing a show similar. Not obviously not similar to this by any stretch of the imagination, but. But similar to, like, the. The themes you're talking about, about toughness and, like, and. And kind of like just reinventing yourself. Was that Covid that brought that upon you or you. Was this something that you always thought about?

[Unknown Male Guest]

I've always been interested in anything that has to do with getting the Most out of life. And it sounds cheesy, but that's something that I've always been really into, like anything to do with like self help me, self help stuff. And now that I'm like middle age and I have have, you know, an eight year old girl, I have two little babies, I am really desperately trying to reclaim my health because I want to be around for them as much as possible. You wake up, the older you get, the more you feel like you're dying. I mean, that's just for sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

For sure. Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

So like, you know, and really the main motivator was when we lost, as you guys know, like I. We lost a daughter five days after she was born and like I felt so helpless and like I couldn't even think straight. My body was in pain. And at that time I kind of just had this epiphany where the only thing that I can, I was like, I need to try to get small wins every day. And the easiest wins were like, well, I can at least try to control my health as much as possible. And that was the beginning of just trying to transform my body just so I could beat it for my family. And then Special Forces was an opportunity to like actually have an excuse to spend money on a trainer and be away from home. I was working out like a 11, 12 times a week going into the.

[Bri (Brianna)]

He trained for this opposite.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So. So I. It sounds like you knew what you were getting into and prepared for it and you got tricked and didn't.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I went on a half mile run once before the show.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Did I get there? I mean, like, what I could not. Like if I somehow, if I signed up for that and didn't realize what it was and I got there, I think I would have to be like, I have to go home. I can't, I can't. Like, I don't even know how you like persevered through it.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I don't either. I mean, he saw me fucking go through Hal and back, but she is tough as hell.

[Unknown Male Guest]

So tough. He's a youth at its finest. She just showed up and crushed it. She's also naturally athletic and like a motherfucker. Like, she's not someone to be fucked with. I don't think you are.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Thank you. Well, I also quit vaping the day I got there after, since I was 16, so I'm going through withdrawals. I've got my period right when I get there, I'm like, I haven't worked out in a year. It was. And then Ravi's just like, we're literally doing the, the most crazy. The most the. That you would never want to do anything crazy. This is so cool. Like, I love this so much. Everyone's in tears.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Let's go drown in mud. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

He's like, no, this is awesome.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I want to do it more.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I'm like, what is wrong with you, man?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The one clip I remember seeing was Cam Newton.

[Ravi]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Cam Newton, like jumped from a boat. Boat onto the helicopter. Helicopter skids like no problem. Like Tom Cruise style. What was like the craziest thing you guys did?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Well, I don't know what we're allowed to say.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was gonna ask you what we're.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Allowed, what we're allowed to say, but I feel like it's good promotion for the show. So let's just take a swing, breathe, see what happens. Okay.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Well, yeah. What was the craziest thing to you?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Well, I know what your craziest. At least you know what I saw, what I thought was your craziest from our experience.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Oh, the one that broke me me to death. That was like.

[Ravi]

Let's talk about that one.

[Bri (Brianna)]

That one was.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah, why don't we talk about that?

[Bri (Brianna)]

I can't even. Okay, so I didn't know. I knew I was like maybe a little bit claustrophobic. Right. And in the, in our pre show interviews, they're asking us all of our biggest fears and they keep bringing up claustrophobia. I'm like, no, I don't think I'm claustrophobic. And it gets to one of the challenges that we have to do where we have to like find. We have to like bomb a cell tower. But to get to that, you have to crawl through about a two by two tunnel underground where you can't see, you can't breathe. You're piled in together where you're getting kicked in the face. It's pitch black. You're in full gear and it just doesn't fucking end. And then it turns into underwater tunnel. So I'm. And it's pitch black by the way.

[Unknown Male Guest]

There's fucking rocks. It gets tighter than that at times. People are getting stuck in the screaming.

[Bri (Brianna)]

The ceiling collapsed at one time. So you have to.

[Unknown Male Guest]

There's explosions going on around you.

[John]

Explosions.

[Bri (Brianna)]

They're kicking like they would open up the top, kick dirt in your face. All of our teeth got. Were black when we got out of it. And it's, it's not just like a one minute thing. Like it keeps going, keeps going, keeps going. So I have a full blown panic attack and I'M stacked in between Christy, and I have Ravi behind me, and I'm just like, if I didn't have him behind me, I think I would have crawled the back out and tapped out.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Do they have, like. If you were to, like, a safe word or something where they'll pull you out of there, or, like, you're in there till you get out? Like, there's not, like, a fancy.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Interesting enough. There was no safe word.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Some sort of, like, you know, oh.

[Ravi]

That should have existed.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm drowning or something. We would save you or.

[Unknown Male Guest]

No, when I tell you there was no safe word. There was. What's crazy about this show is it is crazier than you. Than it even looks on television.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I thought this was going to be a TV show, so I thought they would be a decorum about which, you know. You know, they would have. I just thought it would be. I thought it'd be safer. Yeah, I thought there'd be more snacks.

[Bri (Brianna)]

We were starving.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Where are the snacks and makeup? I need that.

[Bri (Brianna)]

There's no, like, crew, no confessionals. Like, you are strictly with the. We call them the ds, which are, like, the Special Force dudes. And you don't, like, go talk to cameras. It's all, like, security camera footage. And then you do these things and there's, like, cameras around you, but you're. It's not a TV show. Like, you're living in this world for however long you last.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And the idea is supposed to be, like, that's what you would go through if you were training to become a Special Forces. Or, like, this is a mission that we would be on. Like, it's training.

[Unknown Male Guest]

They're trying to. They're trying to simulate, like, the actual experience, which means we're living. We're like, sleeping on actual cots in a tent with this little, like, next to us is, like, the few things that we got to bring with us.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Which were, like, two pairs of underwear we could bring. I washed them in the sink.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I brought earplugs for myself and everyone around me because I was worried about snoring, which ended up being brilliant.

[Bri (Brianna)]

God, you brought those?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I. That would be my. You know, I need hygiene. I gotta brush my teeth. I need deodorant. I need clean underwear. Like, you pooped in front of each other. Oh, my God.

[Unknown Male Guest]

My God.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This is barbaric.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Taking shits in buckets next to each.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Other with your eye. So. So this is, like, you sit. It's outdoor. You're literally living on a military base. And this is the shitter. It's a hole. There's no flush. It's. There's no water in it. And they're all next to each other like this with walls up to here. So while you're shitting, it's the people in front of you washing their underwear or, like, on the camp. Eye contact.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Did you get paid? Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Everyone's talking.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay, good. Dude, no.

[Unknown Male Guest]

And everyone by. By, like, by, like, 20, 24 hours in, everyone's already so beat up, like. Because you never know. First of all, these challenges are insane. They're really excruciating. You know, you're heaving when you're done with them, and you just, like, push yourself to the limit, and then you have to go, like, do at the base, and you have these horrible army meals and your little tiffins and, like, that. You have to clean yourself in this army food so you don't eat much anyway, because it's horrible. And.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Wow.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Then, like, I mean, you don't even know when they're. They wake up in the middle of the night to do crazy. Yeah.

[Ravi]

How do you really fall asleep? Because you're like.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I don't know.

[Ravi]

They might kick in the door.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Like, wet clothes and.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Ravi]

Honestly, it sounds fun, but this is crazy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I could say you would probably love this.

[Ravi]

I would like it. Except for the dumping out in front of me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Ravi]

I like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I like.

[Ravi]

Surprise. That's my biggest fear about prison.

[Bri (Brianna)]

You became so close with these people.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Of all people would excel at dumping publicly. I think you would be great. I could see you being in the top 1% in general.

[Ravi]

No, I like. Dude, when I go to the bathroom, I'm in there for an hour. I. I do. I do a lot of stuff. I go to the bathroom. I take a shower. I do some ski. Yeah, I. I like my bathroom experience.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's.

[Unknown Male Guest]

That's who we are. That's who. Men. That's us at our most primal state. But if you're like me and you end up getting married and having kids, like, last night, end of the night, I'm, like, in there. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna take the shit that I've been thinking about for I style. All right, so go in there. But I also always have so much to do. So I'm like, oh, I got to book these flights. I'm sitting there booking these flights, and I could actually get in and out pretty quickly. It's just something you get good at over time. When you're super busy, but I'll still book on my flight. I got three texts from my wife, like, who's right on the other side, you know, in the bedroom. Where the fuck are you?

[Ravi]

One of the most influential scenes I've ever seen in my life is the scene in A Christmas Story. I was like 7 years old watching that kid lock himself in the bathroom so he could do the thing. And I was like, ovaltine. I was like, that's the only place you can get privacy in this whole goddamn world.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You can't get in a bucket. You have nothing, bro. You got nothing.

[Bri (Brianna)]

It would share one shower. And it's a tank of water. So when it ran out, like, you're done. It was so good.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

People.

[Bri (Brianna)]

You shower, like, in your underwear and bra because people can see you. Like, it was just so naked within a day. You get so close with these people where it's like, it doesn't even matter.

[Ravi]

Well, that's what I was gonna ask is like, you know, obviously this all sounds terrible and all that, but was there. Did it help build camaraderie? Like, did you guys have a closeness?

[Unknown Male Guest]

I mean, I generally like half naked women, so I thought that was nice.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just in a bucket being like. Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

No, we, we. I felt. I mean, I felt like a day in. I felt like I was with these guys forever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, we all felt like all reality is like that. Like the. The romance shows. Like, oh, you've only known each other for a week. It's like, Well, I spent 24, 7. And they set you up in these romantic settings. Of course you fall in love. This is like the other end of the spectrum where it's like, yeah, we're at war together, basically.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And they force you, like, all the physical aside, they force you to, like, tell everyone your deepest, darkest secrets. Like, they made us sit in a circle one night and be like, tell us your biggest regret. Or like, some, like, just. And we're all sobbing while we're telling.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Ourselves that talk was crazy.

[Bri (Brianna)]

That talk was up, up.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It was on camera.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I know, but I don't know if they'll put it in.

[Unknown Male Guest]

They told us that it wouldn't be, which makes me think it will, sure. Day one, people were telling secrets that they had never told anyone. They're famous circle.

[John]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Of like. Of like, abuse and like, crazy things. Like, it was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Christ, it was.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Everyone was crying and I was one of the last people to go. And by the time it got to me, I didn't feel like talking.

[Ravi]

I felt bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I bite My fingernails too much.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I don't think I shared anything of substance. I think I may have just, like, shared a life lesson and we moved on.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Early bird gets the worm. Let's keep it. Do you guys get voted off? Do you lose? Like, when you lose it? Like, if you're last in a race, you get. You lose.

[Bri (Brianna)]

No, the only way to leave the show is to voluntary withdraw or get medically.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, so there's no, like, winner.

[Unknown Male Guest]

No, they kick. They kick people out. No. Yeah, you can. You can get asked. Yeah, you get your. You get your.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, if you're, like, being a.

[Jackie]

But yeah, yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

You can still go on, like a.

[Unknown Male Guest]

No, no, no, not.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

So. But they do take people's things away. Whatever you call it. That your number?

[John]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, the finale. Is there, like a breeze, the winner, or is it just like everybody makes it to the end?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Whoever it's. Whoever made it to the finale, whoever made it through the final round, it can be multiple people.

[John]

Yeah, I see.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I see. Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

But, like, majority of people leave the show because it's too hard or they, like, break their neck or some.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah. Ship their dead body home.

[Unknown Male Guest]

By the way, I feel. Look, I haven't seen the other episode, the other seasons, but I feel like our season had to have been exceptional in terms of the quality of people. Everyone was really tough.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's a bomb squad name, too. Like. Like, all the names you read off were like, these are legit people who.

[Unknown Male Guest]

You wouldn't expect to be tough as hell. Like, got through this thing in an insane way. And everyone was really, like. When. The first day I looked around, I'm like, that could be one of. That could be one of the insufferable people. That could be one of the insufferable people. And for the most part, like, I thought everyone was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Let's say names, Robbie. Who are you saying?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Well, I was wrong, though. I was wrong.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I was.

[Bri (Brianna)]

There was only one person on the cast I like, didn't get along with.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why don't you say names?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Cody Brown.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't even know.

[Ravi]

Who is it?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Cody was probably the one that the most people I think didn't get it get.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Get along with, because the Sister Wives guy. But I didn't know who he was going into the show. I never heard of Sister Wives. He had, like, multiple. What? He had, like. He has, like, 28 kids and, like, four wives or some.

[Unknown Male Guest]

He used to have four wives now.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Bro, you know what?

[Ravi]

That sounds worse than hard to get along with.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That sounds worse than Horses. I'd rather do that than have 28 kids and four wives.

[Unknown Male Guest]

He's down to one wife. He kept tell. He kept telling us he wasn't a polygamist because he only has one wife now, which I don't know if that's how it works, but I was like, no, I think we just have one left. I think you're, like, out of wives.

[Ravi]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. You got dumped, bro.

[Unknown Male Guest]

He's just like. He's just like. He's almost like a. Like a 10 year old boy in terms of his, like, enthusiasm for doing things. And he has a way of. In every moment, he's observing what's happening and kind of saying it out loud and then also trying to give motivational speeches to everyone around him.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And that really gets sucking up every challenge. And I always had to be with him on everything. And I'm mommy ing him. I'm like, you're three times my age, bro.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I had a blowout fight with him. I was like, I hope this isn't even aired. Because I was like, you suck. Do not. Like, you are not the same. I'm so frustrated that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That claustrophobia sounds crazy, though. Like, I meant to say that I. In my. Like, I never was. And then, I don't know, like, relatively recently, like, I went and got an MRI for something and I. I've gotten a million in my life and I. They put me in the tube and I was like, whoa, something's different now.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't with this at all.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And now if I even, like, watch a video or see somebody doing something claustrophobic, I start to.

[John]

Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And we were, like, crawling on rubble. So we were. When we get up, when you take your off, you're, like, bloody and, like.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It was blood everywhere on you. And by the way, we're talking about a safe word. I remember you trying to quit, and they wouldn't let her.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Really?

[Bri (Brianna)]

There was that episode. I was like, no, I can't do this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm.

[Bri (Brianna)]

But then every time they were like, give me your band. I was like, no, no, you're allowed.

[Ravi]

All right, fine. Officially quit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. I mean, I guess once you're in a tunnel, like, there's no. I mean, I guess there could literally be going back, but not if someone's behind you and you just have to get through it. And then once you're through it, why.

[Bri (Brianna)]

A few people went home that challenge.

[Ravi]

Yeah. Claustrophobia is. Yeah, like, claustrophobia, I feel like, is one of those. That isn't a problem until it is.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then.

[Ravi]

And one day you're like, never mind. I. I had a problem with it once when I was a kid. This is horrible.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This is like, what else is new? This is about to be something insanely like sickening and depressing. Yeah, here we go.

[Ravi]

Dude, I was at King Richard's fair, which Kevin know shows and they have like medieval times.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If you don't know, it's medieval's Renaissance.

[Ravi]

Fair and they have a, an exhibit, a building there that is just torture. It's just all the tortures that they ever did in history. And I was like seven, nine, something like that with my aunt. And it's very tight quarters and it's very low ceilings. And I started losing my mind. Like I couldn't do like to the point where I ran away and I ran away from my aunt and they couldn't find me. And I was just sprinting through the torture chamber trying to find my way out. And I was trying to find my way out, but everywhere I turned it's some guy getting face eaten off by a rat. I just kept freaking out more and I was just lost, screaming.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Every time he tells a story, I'm like, it checks out. Why you are the person you are today. Yeah, yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it. Like someone.

[Ravi]

Bro, no joke.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The.

[Ravi]

I wasn't making it up. Like, the, this, the, the where I was found was in front of an exhibit where they put a box around your head, a cage, and they just put a rat in it and they just let the rat watch your face until you're dead. And that was a form of medieval torture. And I was just like watching this rat scurry around this thing. And I was like, yeah, just. I don't think I ever came back from that day. I think I died that day. That's your villain origin story right there.

[Unknown Male Guest]

The. That fairs could get away with when we were younger. I mean, I don't know if they're still doing it, but there is no set of standards or municipal authority.

[Bri (Brianna)]

No, like one person a year would die at the fair.

[Ravi]

They'd be like, yeah, we just drove this thing off the highway. It's going to float you around at 60 miles an hour. Hop in.

[Bri (Brianna)]

The guy has no teeth operating it going on. But that's kind of what special forces felt like. Like they made you go. They made you face every fear. So like claustrophobia, heights, drowning, waterboarding, like every form fear.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, yeah, whether you did or not.

[Unknown Male Guest]

But there's there's water body.

[Ravi]

There's waterboarding.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, there's waterboarding.

[Ravi]

Pretty sure I could beat waterboarding.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, now there's, like, I should try. I can waterboard you. I'll waterboard you right now.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Ravi]

What if I just hold my breath? I can hold my breath.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

How long did you hold your breath.

[Ravi]

For like, a minute.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

First of all, I don't know if you could.

[Ravi]

I don't know if I could. I'm probably pretty close to.

[Bri (Brianna)]

But once you're, like, in the middle.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Of, like, situation carts racing.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And though, like, there's one challenger won't.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Say what time should we time him while we talk?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Hold your breath.

[Ravi]

I. To be. I don't honestly think I could beat it, but when I watch it in movies, I'm like, well, why is any hole holding his breath?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Well, you have to hold your breath after we shake you and drop you from the top of a cliff in something sinking while you're strapped in and have to get out of it. Like, yeah, this is up.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, they put us, like, injuries. Sorry, go ahead.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I don't. I think there were injuries.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I'm so scared of what.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I'm so scared of what we can and cannot say, but there was a water sinking, death strapped in moment where.

[Unknown Male Guest]

We'Re in, like, Yeah, I was strapped in. In a. This piece of fuselage that's sinking in water.

[Ravi]

Pretty sure that's how Houdini died.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was gonna say that sounds like it. To be a magician, you're strapped in and, like, if something were to really go wrong, would they have a way to rip you out or something?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Or, like, they have scuba divers under there that would retrieve you. Like, one girl passed out, and they retrieved her, but still, it's like you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Have to bank on them. Like, I'm going back to claustrophobia. I was watching some other reality show, and they locked everyone in in coffins. And, like, for the most part, I'm sure there's, like, a production assistant right there with the keys. But I was like, Like, I don't know, some idiot, like, breaks the key off in the lock, and you're just. Yeah, like, you still. At the end of the day, even if somebody's, like, there for safety, you have to bank on someone else doing their job. And what if they don't and you're stuck in a plane?

[Bri (Brianna)]

A lot of challenges where it. It was like, okay, like, there's not really that much safety. Like, we're going down a mountain. A cliffside mountain not attached to anything. If someone were to fall behind me, we all die.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Stuff like that.

[Unknown Male Guest]

There, there were moments like that every day where I'm like, well, I could die. Yeah, I could die.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And they would say that. They're like, you could die. Do you want to stay? And we're like, it was so fucked up.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It was so fucked up. I like, I said like, as you said, I loved it. What I'm worried about the most is what I'm going to look like on the show. Because I forgot that the cameras were there most of the time. The stuff that comes, the stuff that comes out of my mouth, I know is in the wrong context, not going to make me look good. I'm so worried.

[Bri (Brianna)]

100% same. 100% same.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I'm so worried about what they're going to like actually edit into the show. And they also just didn't like me. I was kind of a smart ass because I was super confident.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And like I said, special Forces guys.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah, he got in trouble. I became kind of like. It's actually, now that I think about it, it's what I was like in school. Like, I was like kind of class clowny, always getting in trouble for being smart Alec. I didn't realize, I'm just not realizing. I reverted to who I was as a child. But like I would, you know, like there was one that we passed and they were like, I don't know how you losers are the first to pass this thing. And I said, we called him staff. And I'm like, that's on you, Steph. And I got in trouble for that.

[Ravi]

They probably couldn't. But like, they couldn't hit you or anything, right?

[Unknown Male Guest]

No, but it's definitely the first day.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I got my hair. They pulled my hair the first day and stepped on my back on the concrete.

[Ravi]

Yeah, I don't know if I like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What the fuck are you doing?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Dude? When we got, when we got kidnapped, essentially when they pulled us off the bus, grabbed me by my hair and threw me on the concrete. Same thing. That was the first moment of the show. And then they put a bag over your head and they step on the. Step on your hands and shit. I got in trouble a lot. For crying.

[Unknown Male Guest]

We had to jump in a mud pool and wearing our normal clothes. I'm like, what kind of television is this? I like these clothes.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And then they go strip, strip in front of everyone. Some of us didn't have bras on, so we're just tits out. And yeah, it was crazy.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah. Jesse Decker was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You need to learn the power of. No Brianna beach house.

[Ravi]

No Special forces.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Jesse. Jesse was. I was actually Jesse. So, like, seven of the 20 people are from Nashville. So we all became super tight. And two of them were Jesse and Eric Decker. Do you remember the football player Eric Decker?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, of course.

[Unknown Male Guest]

So we. So we were at Eric's house two nights ago, up. And Jesse was talking about how she. Oh, you're back on the vaping.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Have you heard everything she's been through, bro?

[Unknown Male Guest]

She was. She was talking. She was talking about how that moment when they said strip, and she was like, I guess I have to. And she. She takes her clothes off, and she turns around, and Nick Young, swaggy P. Is just like. She turns and there's Nick, and he's just like. I mean, that's got to be on. Massive. They're distracted.

[Bri (Brianna)]

They were distracting me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I. Dude, those are huge.

[Unknown Male Guest]

They're super distracting. Like, they're massive. And she's like, she's shorter than me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah. She's like 80% T. How did they.

[Ravi]

Is that the liar Liar? Yeah. In your bra.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I can't believe. Like, I mean, this sounds awesome for the viewer. I just don't know who the would be signing up for this.

[Ravi]

It. It's. Honestly, it sounds awesome until you start talking about pulling your hair and throwing them, because then you're like, well, now we have to fight.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[John]

Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Like, it's. You can't talk back. And you get so. Because they're in your face being like, you're a loser. Nobody you like. And you're just like, you gotta take it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Have you seen how many followers I have?

[Ravi]

I was gonna say, like, that kind of stuff. I feel like, like, works on someone who is going to boot camp for the first time. Like, yeah, you guys all are well aware you're not.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Nobody's like, I'm a very successful person. Shut the up. They broke me, man.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I was like, am I going to war after this?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I didn't know.

[Unknown Male Guest]

And those guys never break character. They are militant the entire time. Bri, I feel like. I feel like you and I both. Both were probably the ones you talk back to them the most, though.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, well, I would just talk.

[Ravi]

I know both of you.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I'll go ahead and say he was constantly breeze. Move was. They would say something. They would like her up, and she's, like, got a tear going down her face. And as they walk away, she'd, like, kind of under her breath, say something really smart.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What the.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Is Wrong with you, like, or like, I would just be like, I was like, that's not true. Like, because I would like complete a challenge and they'd be like, you didn't even try. I'm like, I was like the first one to do it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, why are you yelling at me?

[Ravi]

That, that's what that would. I, I would have a hard time with that. At boot camp when they're telling me things that I just know aren't logically.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I'm actually really succeeding in all of these and you're telling me I'm not.

[Ravi]

If I was like an 18 year old who didn't know what he wanted to do with his life, maybe that would work on me. But like, I'm pretty sure of who I am these days. And you, like, if you're like, you didn't try. I, I tried.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I, I did try, you know, Tried really hard.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I feel like this is a great precursor to you being on the show. Next season we're gonna make it happen. I would run these.

[Ravi]

I would do it, I think, I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Think you'd be pretty good at it.

[Ravi]

I, I think I'd be solid. I think Swaggy Pete probably beat me, but I'd be, I'd be all right.

[Bri (Brianna)]

He was great.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was gonna say, bro, I think you would like, win this. I think it would be you and like a, like a football, like somebody, you know, really like, that you would expect.

[Unknown Male Guest]

No, the athletes are the biggest, I think.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I can see that too, because they're like superstars and all that, I think.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah, I think they have the toughest time, time with this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Who's like, what would last winner? You can say that, right? Like, like, do you know who? I don't know.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Tyler Cameron, Nick Viel and guys, you could do this. And an Olympian. Woman.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, woman.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I, I sorry. I wish I remembered her name.

[Ravi]

As soon as Brie said it, I went, someone's gonna say something.

[Unknown Male Guest]

You know what, what would make me be as smart actors, kind of along the lines of what you're saying, John, is like, they would be so mean and talk so much shit to me and I would know that. It's not like it was like they're in character doing their thing that they're supposed to do. And I would have trouble sometimes taking them seriously. So I would start laughing sometimes.

[Ravi]

I would run. Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

And I just, I'm just not accustomed, because I'm not in the military to not actually saying what I think. I'm just not used to that. Like, like when you're standing there and they're addressing you. Like, if a fly comes on your face, which happens all the time.

[Jackie]

Time.

[Unknown Male Guest]

You're not allowed to flick it. I was always. I was that. You can't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If there's a fly on my eyeball, I'm gonna move my arms. Guys, I'm so. I don't know. I just. I would be so bad.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And if your water bottle's not filled to the brim, then they take it and pour it on your head.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Really? And then they're like, now, oh, my God.

[Unknown Male Guest]

One of the funniest.

[Ravi]

Please, Ravi.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Well, no, I was just gonna say one of the funniest. Like, a great example of them trying to be militant and doing it poorly was very early on, one of the staff laugh. He's like, talking shit to me and he's like. He's like, trying to make me feel bad, and he goes, doo doo face, poopy face.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Really hard to not start laughing. That is the worst. It's like the worst cut down of all. And so he just started calling me poopy face throughout the entire. It's gonna be in the show for sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

He called me poopy face.

[Ravi]

Like, I came here to get away from my kids. What are you doing? Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

And also, I. I don't. You know, I'm not a hot dude, but I don't think my face looks like poop.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I mean, that feels like doo doo face.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Have you seen the guys on. On, like, the Internet who pay for the Navy SEAL experience? This is one of, like, my biggest pet peeves in the world. And how I know I'd be terrible at the show. They. They pay, like, I think a lot of money. I think it's like $10,000 to go to, like, camp. It's basically just, like, signing up for this.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I like low key. It was the coolest shit that you could never do otherwise. Like, I kind of would pay to do it if I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

These guys are like. They, like, end up, like, sobbing and hugging them. And that's.

[Bri (Brianna)]

That's crazy, but it, like, really is.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Once in a lifetime.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Once. And it was so cool. Like, I'm so glad I did it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ravi]

But is there anything you guys have taken with you, like, since the show ended? Something that you maybe did on the show and you're like, oh, this works for me. Be it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You.

[Ravi]

You did the opposite. You're like, well, no, vaping doesn't work.

[Bri (Brianna)]

No, that doesn't work for me. But I do, like, I. It was nice to See, I didn't realize how much mind over matter was, like, true. Like, because, like I said, I didn't work out. I didn't have any, like, physical training, and if, like, my body would be breaking down and I would just be like, no, keep going, Keep going. And, like, I could. And it was like that. You, like, yeah, but you know what?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That sucks. You come home and now you don't have any excuses.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I know.

[Ravi]

Like, it's like, go do that show.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or finish that, whatever. You know, it's like. I know.

[Bri (Brianna)]

It does make you realize how resilient you are. That was cool. Like, I was like, oh, holy. We kind of did that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, totally.

[John]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Mine's probably along the same lines. I mean, I was overconfident going into it, and I often am, and I think it was just validating that I was right.

[Ravi]

Knew it.

[John]

I'm.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I'm tough. I'm tough as.

[John]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

It was really cool. And the other thing that I think is com. I mean, I'm pretty obsessed with feeling good. Like, I. In terms of, like, the fitness thing. I'm still doing it, and I don't think I'm ever gonna stop you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You working out every night. K is carrying me everywhere we go, literally.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Maybe one day I was in the. I was in the zone, though, when I got back, for so long. And then I started, like, working, which my work is getting drunk or, like, traveling.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So not easy job.

[Ravi]

It is a tough gig.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Blackout tour. Sleep when you're dead. I remember being like, I am tired watching the clips.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I'm just, like, over the drinking. But it's like, you can't be.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You're back. I mean, you're out of retirement, girl. I know.

[Ravi]

I was thinking about that the other day where I was like. Because I was like, I haven't been in a bar in a while. It was after the premiere, we were at Factory, and I was like, I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Haven'T been in a bar in a while.

[Ravi]

And then I started thinking, why hasn't anyone said, like, let's go to a bar? And I realized that just, like, there were 10 years of my life, we're.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just, like, at a bar.

[Ravi]

It was just out of. It wasn't. Someone wasn't suggesting it. It was just. That's where it was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Everything occurs so good. Bad parties, whatever. Just, like, you're out.

[Ravi]

I was like. I was like, it wasn't always me who suggested it. Right. Sometimes other people spoke up.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You guys wanted to be there too, right? I don't know. I felt like I reached a point, too, though, where I was, like, doing the math in my head, and I was like, I think I've been to the bar, like, 10,000 times in my life. Like, I don't think I. I don't think I need to do this anymore, do I? Let's go to the bar.

[Bri (Brianna)]

For the bar.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. I mean, like, I. We were, you know, I was, like, in bars too young of an age. So by the time I was, like, 25, I was like, I've been doing this for, like, a decade.

[John]

Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And then especially doing it for work. It's like, I've had the coolest parties, done all the crazy shit.

[Jackie]

Like, I can't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's also tough once you get some, like, VIP treatment or, like, you're just used to bars being a different way, and you kind of go back to the. With the plebians. But.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, but some of you guys are like Navy seals. You guys are basically like, we're pretty.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Much the coolest people.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You guys are like, when. When.

[Unknown Male Guest]

That's us.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

When all those chicks went to outer space and started calling themselves astronauts. Katy Perry and them. Y. You're basically that. But Navy Seals, yeah. You guys should be like, you know, I am a part of the army now. Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I thought that for at least a week after, I was like, so.

[John]

At.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The very least, you could say you've probably completed or interacted with. Did something that, like, I don't know, like, point 1% of the population goes through. Like I said, like, no one can just do this on the weekend, you know?

[Ravi]

Let me ask you this. Tomorrow, United States headline news. We're at war.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We're at war with Russia.

[Ravi]

And they're like, we need all the soldiers we got. They go, you know what? Bri and Ravi were pretty good.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We're setting swaggy people.

[Ravi]

Are you guys going for Uncle Sam, or are you. Are you sticking around?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You draft Dodgers or what?

[Unknown Male Guest]

Well, just by virtue of being asked, I know that we're losing this war, so I'm out. They actually. They actually said something along these lines. You know, we have to do these things where we go in for interviews. And I was telling them that while I was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That.

[Unknown Male Guest]

That things are really busy at home. My. That we have two little babies and that my wife had to move our homes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, our move. Oh, wait, that's right. I remember finding that out as you were recording. Remember that? He was like, yeah, my wife's at home, like, packing up our house. And I was like, you better stay in Morocco.

[Ravi]

Because when you're going home to is way worse than Special Forces, buddy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Let me just move our entire house with my two kids while my husband's, like, playing Marine.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Holy. The move was the day before we actually started filming, when I still had my phone, but I was in Morocco, and the last two texts with my wife were the movers didn't show up. So now the handyman's coming over with his wife and we're all moving stuff. Also, one of the babies has a fever. And I was like, okay, well, I gotta. I gotta put my phone away. And. And so I was telling that. I was telling the staff, there's like that DS or whatever they're calling that, you know, I feel bad being here. I think I probably need to get back to my family. My wife is basically doing her own Special Forces at home, and there's only so much. I can play GI Joe while that's happening. And they said. And I think it was the same guy who called me Doo. Dooface. Q was like. He's like, well, that's just. That's what we all had to do. We all had to sacrifice our families. We couldn't just go home just because. Just because, you know, our families and things. Like, that's what this is. And I was like, yeah, but I'm an actor.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. This is a television show, dude.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I don't. I don't give a. That you. Good for you. Thank you for your service.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, but it's crazy.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah. I'll just leave when I want to leave, guys.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It is one of. It's a good bucket list thing, though. Like.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or, you know, icebreaker. Whatever you want to say. Like, you can say that you've done some. If someone says, tell me an interesting story about you, it's like, well, I crawled through, like, a mile of an underground tunnel to go to a plane fuselage that was sink. Blah, blah, blah, whatever, you know?

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And it's like, holy. That's person's done some crazy.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I know. Watching it, though.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, no. I feel like that might be one thing. I would only. Because I would be. I would want to see myself do, like, complete the.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I don't know. I cry so much. And I like girls.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

A lot of it just happens. Girls cry on reality shows. It happens. Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I don't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like you're warranted to cry.

[John]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

That's a stereotype women are trying to break out of. But I think Bri set him back.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Set him back so much.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We are firmly establishing that as a mirror.

[Bri (Brianna)]

The whole Time. So I have no idea what I physically look like during the show. I just don't. I don't want to.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

There was no mirror.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

No, nothing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, my hair was, like.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Covered in every day.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Would you do it again?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Like, if they did an all star league, whatever? Yeah, no, I would totally do it again.

[Unknown Male Guest]

You, too.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Awesome.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You too.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Me too.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, totally. Well, I guess that's like the ultimate cosine then, right? Right?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. And when does it come out? Do we know the air dates and all that?

[Bri (Brianna)]

September 25th.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

September 25th.

[Unknown Male Guest]

September 25th. There you go.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, you know, we know Navy seals now, John.

[Ravi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

All right, man. Well, we appreciate it. We'll be looking out to watch it. And whatever else you end up hosting for fox, we'll be there, too.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, I'll see you in LA soon.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You guys can.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Oh, yeah. Are you going to that. Are you going to be there for the thing?

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, I'll be there for one day, then I have to fly to Portugal that night.

[Unknown Male Guest]

What are you doing in Portugal?

[Bri (Brianna)]

My sister's getting wasted.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. All right. You guys can, like, meet in LA and, like, lock eyes and just remember, like, everyone shit together. Yeah.

[Ravi]

Do you feel like a dog when you were doing that? You know how a dog's always kind.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Of looking up at you when you take it? I think you're gonna pick this up.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Until the fourth day. And the doctor said if you don't go, you're gonna have to medically leave.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Really? Because you were. You're trying not to, I don't think.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Well, I just couldn't.

[John]

Okay.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Bree, did you get the talk from the scariest. One of the scariest parts of the show is at the end when the psychiatrist sits down with you and goes. And is like. Just so you know, you're going to have trauma as a result of this experience. Your cortisol levels have been at a level that they've never been very consistently. You've been in fight or Flight. You're going to need a safe word at home so that your partner knows, because at any given moment, you're gonna. You're gonna be. Your mood's gonna be up and down. You're gonna be reactive. It was crazy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That sounds. And I was, like, dramatic. Now. Did that happen?

[Unknown Male Guest]

I was like. I was like, no. I was like, well, I told my wife. I told my wife I thought that was an opportunity. So I told my wife, I go, hey, I got the safe word. You kind of Got it. Like, I don't know how much I can do for the next couple weeks.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Do the dishes. Robbie Pineapple.

[Unknown Male Guest]

She told me to go. I mean, she told me to go myself.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I bet she did right away. And then, like, did you have a come down? Like, you just go home. You know, he's going home. The wife and kids and. But, like, were you just kind of like, whoa, I'm now just back in.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I had to come down. But the last. We probably can't keep it in. But, like, I went through interrogation where they kept you up for 25 hours, changed to a fence with a bag over your head, and then they, like, would waterboard you and shit. Like, and then you had headphones on with pig murder Sounds blasted and shit. So I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

25 hours, you said.

[Bri (Brianna)]

I truly.

[John]

Yeah.

[Bri (Brianna)]

After you were on the run for three and a half hours in the middle of the night, they dropped you in the mountains in Africa, and you're getting chased by dogs, and there's no. You have a map and a compass. I have a map and a compass in Africa. And, like.

[Ravi]

The fuckest thing.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And then you get interrogated. So they brought in the real interrogators for, like, all, like, terrorists, and, like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They actually interrogate Drive up.

[Bri (Brianna)]

So I struggled a little bit after.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that is.

[Ravi]

That's great. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Ravi]

This show ultimately sounds fun, but. Yeah, it sounds crazy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Had you known that going in, would you have said yes? Like, I'm sure. Did they tell you all this or, like, hey, it's gonna be tough. And you're like, all right, cool.

[Bri (Brianna)]

No, I. Yeah. If. I feel like if somebody told me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

25 hours chained to a fence, I'd say, okay, never mind.

[Bri (Brianna)]

In different positions. So you would have to, like, go. You have to do crisscross applesauce with your hands over your head for an hour. And if you're. If you bend your back, they would kick your back in. But you have headphones and a bag over your head and glasses over, so you don't know.

[Jackie]

Oh, so bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

God damn.

[Ravi]

They do the one where you, like. I actually just watched the torture report on Prime.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Great movie.

[Ravi]

But the one they do where, like, they have both your hands and your feet shackled to the same.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah.

[Ravi]

Bolt.

[John]

Yeah.

[Ravi]

God, that looked awful.

[John]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Can't do it. Yeah.

[Ravi]

No crawling two miles.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think maybe the only.

[Unknown Male Guest]

The only thing that was surprising was, like, two or three days after I got back, I realized that my body was, like. I didn't. I didn't realize how much my body had Been through, and I found all these, like. All these pains started coming up, and I had bruises in places that I didn't realize.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Yeah, I was purple from that one challenge. I don't know. Yeah, there was, like, a water challenge where you, like, slap from, like, a mountain. I was purple from my shins to, like, under my boobs. Like, purple.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Really?

[Bri (Brianna)]

It was crazy.

[John]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Guest]

And you're bleeding. You're bleeding kind of all the time because there's a lot of stuff where you have to do this army walk on rocks, and. And so I just. I had, like, just scabs all up and down my arms.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If I, like, st away from me. I hurt my pinky toe.

[Bri (Brianna)]

My toenails just grow. Grew back. Robbie.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Oh, congratulations.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Thank you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Ravi]

Good for you.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Must have been my two big toenails. Yeah, it was gross.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We'll beep it out. How much they pay you?

[Bri (Brianna)]

I don't know. I have to ask my financial.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Give me a ballpark.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Probably, like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, okay. That makes. I thought you were gonna be like, that's. I was like, that's not. But you could leave the first day.

[Bri (Brianna)]

And still get paid.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's what I would do. Really?

[Ravi]

You can leave.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I would do that. No. Spike me up, bro.

[Bri (Brianna)]

That's it.

[Ravi]

Ah, you know what, guys? I just stubbed my toe. I'm gonna head out.

[Bri (Brianna)]

Someone left the first day. Like, you could just leave and you still get paid.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just. That's a good racket. Yeah. Wow. All right, well, that makes a little more sense then. Yeah. Yeah. All right, man. We appreciate it. Thank you, as always. And it's good to see you guys again.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Bri, good to see you. See you a couple weeks.

[Ravi]

You're the best, brother. Great to see you, man.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

See you.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Yeah. Good to see you, dude.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Bye. Sa. Sam.