Feits Responds to Dave Portnoy Calling Him Out Over Boring Livestream - Full Episode

Summary

KFC Radio Podcast Summary

Episode: Feits Responds to Dave Portnoy Calling Him Out Over Boring Livestream
Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: Kevin Clancy (KFC), John Feitelberg (Feits), with significant contributions from Dave Portnoy and Theo Vaughn
Main Theme:
This episode dives into Barstool’s sport-focused livestreams (particularly Yankees-Red Sox), reacts to Dave Portnoy calling out Feitelberg for a “boring” stream, debates the nature of sports fandom and streaming content, and covers a variety of trending topics—everything from Saudi “sportswashing” and celebrity culture to women’s sports, rapper feuds, and entertainment industry stories.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Barstool Sports Livestream Critiques

Theme:
The episode begins with immediate reaction to baseball playoffs—especially the Yankees vs. Red Sox rivalry—and rapidly pivots into a raw discussion about the quality and nature of Barstool’s sports livestreams. Feitelberg (Feits) directly responds to Dave Portnoy’s public criticism of the previous night’s stream, which Dave called “boring.”

Highlights:

• Dave’s Criticism, New Blood in Streams:
  • “Our Yankees guys are absolute dorks. Don’t bring an ounce of energy… We had Feitelberg and bald Mutt clapping like this game winning hit.” (Dave Portnoy, 06:18)
  • Dave wants more energy and “lunatic” fandom on streams, citing viral superfan Hogdale as a new solution:
    • “He calls 162 games a year to himself in the basement. He had an electric call… It was better than anything our club boring has done.” (Dave Portnoy, 05:00)
• Feits’ Response and Self-Awareness:
  • “You are what you are and you’re not what you’re not… I don’t think you can fake that or force that. If all of a sudden you were that guy after how many years of not…” (KFC, 08:01)
  • “If the ultimate criticism is I am not very good at being watched watch sports, I’m okay with that.” (Feitelberg, echoing KFC, 15:46)
• Livestream Format Ideas:
  • Discussion of “Electric Chair” streams (one or two die-hard fans instead of big groups), hybrid live events, and importance of “natural lunatics.”
    • “Baseball is tough because… it’s not exciting. It’s tense and important but not exciting… you need people who are naturally kind of like lunatics.” (KFC, 09:04; 12:21)

Memorable Moment:
Dave tells how Hogdale is being brought in for Red Sox games because Club Boring can’t cut it, emphasizing the necessity of viral, meme-able moments for Barstool’s brand.

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2. Streaming, Fandom, & Ageing Audiences

Theme:
The hosts reflect on how sports streaming content has evolved, the changing nature of fandom as Barstool personalities get older, and the challenge of capturing raw emotion versus authenticity.

• Aging Out of “Crazy” Fandom:
  • “As I’m getting older, I’m just not as crazy… I’m almost trying to tone it down.” (KFC, 12:28)
  • “You can’t fake that… probably good to get some new blood.” (KFC, 12:41)
• Viral Content vs. Nuanced Fandom:
  • Use of superfan Frank (“Frank the Tank”) as an example of natural viral reactions versus reasoned, insider fandom.

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3. Saudi Sportswashing & Comedy Festival Debate

Theme:
A detailed and often humorous discussion about the ethics of Western entertainers (comedians in particular) accepting “blood money” to perform in Saudi Arabia, contextualized in the wake of recent festivals featuring Bill Burr, Louis CK, and Kevin Hart.

Highlights:

• The Rationalization Paradox:
  • “He said, I know there’ll be things I can’t say, but… I gotta move the line of scrimmage five yards so the next person can come and they can move it three yards.” (Bill Burr quote via Dave Portnoy, 22:32)
  • “Here is a hoop that you can jump through… A hoop exists, or there are some things the hoop does not exist.” (KFC, 25:01)
• Ethics vs. Opportunity:
  • “If the money is huge, I could look past all of it. So, in a weird way, I’m even a bigger piece of shit.” (KFC, 30:00)
  • “Someone’s gotta say no eventually, right? The buck’s gotta stop.” (Dave Portnoy, 41:07)
• Double Standards, Western Hypocrisy:
  • “Turning a blind eye—we do that with plenty of countries, including our own.” (KFC, 39:34)
  • “I feel like we should do something about that. I feel like we should go get those guys. But don’t you think some comics are like: I mean, the government ain’t doing about it… So I’m gonna go do my jokes and get a bag.” (KFC, 40:05–40:49)
• Gender Angle:
  • “Do you think it’s worse or better for a woman, like, an American woman comedian to go do it?” (Theo Vaughn, 41:40)

Memorable Quote:
“It’s a great rationalization. You can talk about this while you count your money.” (Dave Portnoy, 25:11)

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4. Female Fandom, WNBA, and Gendered Reactions

Theme:
The conversation shifts to the surge in women’s sports popularity, focusing on the Caitlin Clark effect in the WNBA, the league’s pay problems, and the “out-of-touch” remarks by WNBA Commissioner Kathy Engelbert.

Highlights:

• Commissioner’s Quote:
  • “Caitlin Clark should be grateful for the platform that the WNBA gave her.” (Kathy Engelbert, paraphrased by KFC, 71:31)
  • “She could make more money shooting jumpers in her backyard on YouTube.” (KFC, 73:02)
• Cultural Differences in Athlete-Coach Interactions:
  • “It was the first time I was like, I don’t like that… To me that looks like bossy girls being… you know, mean girls.” (KFC, 79:59)
  • “Other sexes—we do not like seeing the other sex angry. Like Swifties just did this with Travis Kelce and Andy Reid.” (Dave, 80:09)
• Comparison to Male Sports:
  • “It’s different when it’s female athletes coaching and fighting versus guys, and a lot of it comes down to perception.” (KFC summarizing, 80:12)

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5. Celebrity & Political Influence

Theme:
Theo Vaughn’s bombed Netflix taping is discussed alongside the pitfalls of influencer involvement in politics, with particular focus on the unintentional consequences of celebrity endorsements and political co-option.

Highlights:

• Theo Vaughn’s Mental Health & Politics:
  • “At first I figured maybe that’s just one fan, but every review seems to say he was bombing… He was like, it’s been a rough month. My mental health is suffering. I’ve been trying not to take my own life.” (KFC, 45:57–46:42)
  • “You made your bed and now you’re upset with your bed and don’t want to sleep in it.” (KFC, 48:16)
• Influencer Responsibility:
  • “If you’re going to be that big, successful, and go that heavy into the political world, someone on your team needs to have that foresight.” (KFC, 54:42)

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6. Improv in Acting, The ‘Club Cool’ Story, and Pop Culture Moments

Theme:
A meta segment on what acting “improv” really means, illustrated through anecdotes about film/TV sets, followed by a classic Barstool origin story—Club Cool—and a run-through of current pop culture events (Bruce Springsteen biopic, rapper feuds).

Highlights:

• What Does Improvisation Really Mean?
  • Discussion about whether “improv” is real on sets, if it’s pre-discussed or truly spontaneous, and whether it’s more likely with “top dog” actors.
• Club Cool to Club Boring:
  • Humorous retelling of Dave’s infamous “Club Cool” Photoshop and KFC Radio’s shift from the young, cool guys to self-described “Club Boring.” (59:08–60:25)
• Bruce Springsteen Biopic Debate:
  • “Do you think it sounds like Springsteen?” “I think it sounds enough… from a diehard, you might hear the nuances.” (KFC & Dave, 57:04–58:12)

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7. Female Rapper Feuds & Social Media

Theme:
Recap and commentary on the Twitter/X feud between Cardi B and Nicki Minaj, reflecting on gender double standards and the toxicity of social-media-driven rap beef.

Quotes:

• “She was like, your son's autistic and can’t read or something… Nikki’s tough because both her husband and her brother are like registered sex [offenders].” (KFC, 81:48–82:14)
• “The guy rappers, they just kill each other. They just buy a gun and shoot you and you’re dead. Somehow I think that’s better than what’s happening here.” (KFC, 81:32)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Context | |-------------|----------------|---------------| | 06:18 | Dave Portnoy | “Our Yankees guys are absolute dorks. Don’t bring an ounce of energy… We need Hogdale.” | | 08:01 | KFC | “You are what you are and you’re not what you’re not… I don’t think you can fake that or force that.” | | 15:46 | Feitelberg | “If the ultimate criticism is I am not very good at being watched watch sports, I’m okay with that.” | | 22:32 | Bill Burr (via Dave) | “I gotta move the line of scrimmage five yards so the next person can come and move it three yards.” | | 25:11 | Dave Portnoy | “It’s a great rationalization. You can talk about this while you count your money.” | | 30:00 | KFC | “If the money is huge, I could look past all of it. So, in a weird way, I’m even a bigger piece of shit.” | | 39:34 | KFC | “Turning a blind eye—we do that with plenty of countries, including our own.” | | 71:31 | Kathy Engelbert (paraphrased) | “Caitlin Clark should be grateful for the platform that the WNBA gave her.” | | 73:02 | KFC | “She could make more money shooting jumpers in her backyard on YouTube.” | | 81:32 | KFC | “The guy rappers, they just kill each other. They just buy a gun and shoot you and you’re dead. Somehow I think that’s better than what’s happening here.” |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Sports Stream Recap & Critique: 04:27–16:20
• Club Cool / Club Boring Backstory: 59:08–60:25
• Saudi Sportswashing Debate: 21:15–43:05
• Theo Vaughn’s Netflix Taping / Celeb Politics: 45:57–54:42
• Pop Culture (Actor Improv, Bruce, Rap Feuds): 57:03–83:38

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Conclusion

This episode is a freewheeling, quintessential KFC Radio mix—lively, argumentative, self-aware, and unfiltered. It’s deeply Barstool: blending inside-baseball shop talk with sharp cultural critique and irreverent asides.

• The main draw is Feitelberg’s honest, measured response to being labeled “boring” by Portnoy, and the ongoing struggle between authenticity vs. content virality.
• The “Saudi” segment reveals the hosts’ ability to navigate complex issues with humor but not without real ethical consideration.
• Superb for both Barstool diehards and casual listeners wanting to understand the personalities and thought processes that drive modern sports and influencer media.

For listeners: If you want Barstool’s signature blend of humor, self-deprecation, real talk, and big-swing pop culture debates, this episode is prime.

Transcript

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I will say, having been enforcing a baseball blackout, like, I was like, I'm not. I wasn't watching. I wasn't watching anything. I wasn't thinking about it. I was just like, trying to ignore the whole sport of baseball. But I was like, the Yankees and Red Sox are playing in the playoffs. Yeah. I have a job at Barcelona Sports. I've got it. I've gotta watch. And what a game that was, man. I, I mean, baseball.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't think you should be allowed to have a baseball team if you don't have a Garrett Crochet on your team.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He was stupendous.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, I was saying it to Mutt last night watching the game where I was like, even when we had sale, like, every pitch sail Through. You're like, that might be his last.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

He's not. It wasn't like a guy like, yeah, go out there, throw 300 pitches, all of them high 90s, just shoved.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what? He feels a little bit like Josh Beckett.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. What I said, like, he was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Even the way Beckett, like, stood on the mound, like, he didn't look imposing at all, like, but he was nails, dude. He didn't give a.

[Dave Portnoy]

And that was Mutt said of all the. I said Becky, I was like, it's exactly what it was. Like, just give the big dog the ball.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Josh Beckett is. Is for a player that never played for my team, the most I've ever rooted.

[Dave Portnoy]

He's got Miami too.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Beat them. When he was with the Marlins, when, like, nobody thought that Marlin's gonna win, you know, because they were young and it was just like, who is this guy? And he dominated and then the Red Sox. So I, I love that guy. Yeah. That, that crush. His performance was unbelievable. Freed was great and you withstood him. The Yankees played great defense, which they never do. You withstood that. The, the, the stretching that. The walk from Rafael was that I professional at bat.

[Dave Portnoy]

Same thing on that. I was talking to him on the stream where I was like, when he went down O2, I'd stopped paying attention, right? I was just like, it's over.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Raphael on first he grinded, man.

[Dave Portnoy]

It was like. I think he battled back. It was 02, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was 02 and then it was like 11. It was like a 10. Yeah, 10 or 11. Pitch up. Addie Milk, the walk. Next dude gets up and hits a ball, stretches it into a single because Aaron Judge is just fucking flowers out there. I mean, so people are blaming Aaron.

[Dave Portnoy]

He's hurt, but he still didn't have any hustle to get around the ball.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So. So the throw was like 70 mph. And apparently he usually throws 91. Talk about stats.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Now we're talking about the miles per hour of the outfielders. But that. So that's true. But he could have thrown that ball 15 miles an hour if he ran to the. He was flat footed. He was bent over.

[Dave Portnoy]

He did a full, like loop around the ball, get in front of the ball.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think he was like, that's a single.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, and that dude stretched it. The clutch hit to knock it in. And then Chapman being like on the type rope, like all together. A terrible outing and an awesome outing at once. Great game. I. I guess. However, the. The stream was not up to par, according to Dave.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I, I actually I very oddly on the subway this morning, ended up sitting next to Marty. No way. So he, he told me, he was like, he's like, yeah, they say his stream sucked. And I got in here and Una was like, dave says you specifically suck. And it's always nice to hear. I was like, well, let's play it.

[Theo Vaughn]

I didn't mean it. Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just play it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Just play.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Let me hear. You want to talk about the kid.

[Dave Portnoy]

That you bring it in to stream tonight? Yes. Take care of Club Boring that you just talked about.

[Hogdale]

Oh, Hogdale. So listen, back in my, I'd say when I was living in Boston or New York and I never left my chair and I was hunched back, I was on top of everything, every pitch, every sport. I didn't leave my computer. Well, it slipped a little. This kid Hogdale, I saw a call of him. He calls 162 games a year to himself in the basement. He had an electric call. Can't say it on FS1 because he used language to end the game. And it was better than anything. Our club. Boring. We have Mutt out there. Mutt took a Mutt owes me. He took, I think a plane or a train, a hotel room to sit on his butt and make no noise. That was the boringest feed I've ever seen for like an exciting baseball game. So we're going to send this guy Hogdale, this kid who looks like he's out of Dave Port. Looks like my brain created this guy in this kid. Central casting vote. I look for. He's going to come announce the game for us, probably spice it up. It's his opportunity. I reached out, I tagged him. He goes, oh my God, I can't believe you tagged me. I go, listen, I got a bunch of losers in New York who are falling asleep watching this game. Do you want to go and call it? He's like, well, I have a job.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'll.

[Hogdale]

Brandon Walker. He's like, this is too big of an opportunity. I'll, I'll call in. I'll do whatever. I'd love to go. So he's going to be our Red Sox announcer for the rest of the playoffs, hopefully. And spice these things up. I saw Carabas and Coley, two ex Barstool employees. They were at House of Blues in Boston. Place was going bananas. But our new guys, our Yankees guys are absolute dorks. Don't bring an ounce of energy. And we had Fidoberg and, and bald mutt clapping like this game winning hit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We need Hogdale.

[Dave Portnoy]

We need Hogdale. Okay. That's a, I guess a fair criticism. I would point to the video we used to promote of the Red Sox fans celebrating. And by the Red Sox fans, I mean me, Dave and Kyribus with a fist pound to win the World Series.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Always been how you are.

[Dave Portnoy]

We would do a side split. We like that was a video. We would promote it all the time. It was, it was, this is Yankee fans after winning game one of the alds. And it was them going bananas. And it was, this is Red Sox fans after winning a World Series. And it would be me, David Kropis, shaking hands and fist pounding. So I would argue, I would argue that I haven't changed. Pedro is ready to.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Pedroia might go charge the plate.

[Dave Portnoy]

Sandy's holding them back right now. Ring them up. Bang. Let's go, buddy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I also, I want to congrats. Well, extend congrats to Hogdale, who now officially has a new job.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I mean, that's the game with Ogdale. When he, when Dave says it, like, it was created in my brain, like, yeah, I know what it was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

These are guys that Dave loves that are what you, what you need and want for, for these viral moments. But I also, you are what you are and you're not what you're not. You know what I mean? Like, I, I don't think you can fake that or force that or if all of a sudden you were that guy after how many years of not.

[Dave Portnoy]

If I started scream like pig. What does final work do?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's what I mean.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's just not.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. And so that, that's more like if, if Dave wanted to just be like, I, well, it's hard if you were doing those streams with Dave and that's how you reacted because then it does feel a little like hypocritical flip flop.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But if he just said in general, like, yeah, like Feidelberg is, is not a crazy guy on the stream. So we want other crazy people, like, fine. But yeah, to pick like that specific like, stream last night as like, I.

[Dave Portnoy]

Know it's always been, I, I would that that stream. I, I again, I found out this morning that people hated it. It like, I, I, I didn't walk away thinking that was an unbelievable stream, but I walked away. Like, I walk away from every stream. I'm like, I don't know, people.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I guess it's also watching us watch sports, like, baseball is tough because baseball, like that game was exciting. But no, they weren't, Pops.

[Dave Portnoy]

They weren't home runs.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was a low scoring affair for. I mean, for the vast majority it was like three up, three down, a couple base runners. No big deal. So it's like, it's not exciting. It's like tense and important and all that. But I don't think it's exciting that there wasn't like these moments to.

[Dave Portnoy]

What is also the difference between like that stream and. And I don't watch. So there might be an answer. Like, what's the difference between that stream and like Sundays? Or Sundays? Are they doing stuff?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know. Well, so I. I think what happened.

[Dave Portnoy]

I've done a good amount of streams. I felt like a very normal stream.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I know what happened here.

[Dave Portnoy]

Two things.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Mutt was there, and I think that Mutt is just going to be this thing for Dave that he checks in on and watches. I don't think Dave watches the streams usually. Yeah, I think Dave was watching the streams for Mutt and Coley and Kravis did a great job.

[Dave Portnoy]

Great job.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So they.

[Dave Portnoy]

They have that video of House of Blues was awesome.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And by the way, if I think I've been saying this for a while, I. What I wanted to do, I tried to work this out with the Mets, which was never going to work because when I explain this, you're gonna say, yeah, it's a silly idea, but it's my dream. I was like, can you just. Do you guys have like a room inside Citi Field? I don't need this. It's not a suite. I don't need like I. And I don't want to be in the crowd because I need to watch this on tv. I want to do the stream. But I'd love to be at City for like the pregame and post game and all that. So, like, is there just like somewhere, a second press room, a literal closet that has a television? Can we. So we can be in the building and we can stream somehow set up a camera, do the phone, whatever, and get the best of both worlds. Because, you know, it's. It's always a thing here where it's like, are you going to the game? No, I've got a stream. But the people who do go are get the. The video and the atmosphere and all that. You know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So I've always thought that we needed to like, shake up some of the streams. And I think one of them is like, do. Do a live event where it's like, it's a little bit of both. You know what I mean? At something. It's not quite at the game, but you're at an event, but you still have the streaming moments. And so like, I think if, if this crew went to like Billy's in the Bronx, it's a big like, open bar, it would be the same thing. I don't know.

[Dave Portnoy]

That would be the same thing. I don't really have done an incredible.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Section 10's a cult.

[Dave Portnoy]

And like they used to work here. Yeah. Like they, now they don't. We let him go and now we don't have socks.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, that was like, like that's what this Red Sox dreams. Thanks. I need a couple Red Sox guys who really care about it and talk about all the time.

[Dave Portnoy]

Look, sometimes Belichick lets a guy go and he does.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, turns out great.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. So I, I don't want to take away and be like, anybody could do that. But I'm just saying that I think if bar soul were to be like, we're doing a Yankees Red Sox watch party at this bar, I think it would be a big crowd too. And, and like that could, you know, spark some life into it. But that's always kind of been the thing of like, I've got to be there for the stream. Also, the streams are for like highlights, clips, you know what I mean? Like, I, I, I rarely, I, I, I don't think I've ever watched like a full stream. It's sort of like, no, I just.

[Dave Portnoy]

Watched the clip on, on you. I'm sure there are plenty of people who watch the full stream. But yeah, I, my impression of the streams was always like, it's for the big moments. There weren't a ton of big moments. There were a lot of high stakes moments and all that, but not a lot of big pop moments. And so it's a boring stream. And it, it was like, I'm not sitting here going like, that was unbelievable. He's crazy. But like, it just felt like a regular stream to me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, you can't, I, I just don't know. You can't really force those things. And what you, so what you need are people who are naturally kind of like lunatics.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I also think that's kind of like the life cycle of things is like, I mean, I've been talking about it ad nauseam, like how as I'm getting older, I'm just not as like crazy and try, I'm almost trying to tone it down, but if I was, you know, 18, 24, young, unemployed, looking for a job, whatever, I think it's just different and you can't fake that. So, you know, it's not really like a defense or like an excuse, but it's just like, yeah, it's probably good to get some new blood. I, I think it would be a good idea to have every stream have a guest, or in this case, what is inevitably a new hire or whatever, where it's like, okay, now we have a Yankee super fan on, now we have a Red Sox super fan. We have this viral guy who does baseball, whatever. Yeah, maybe link up with guys like, I don't know, Coley and Karabas. But you can't, like, fake that stuff, you know, I mean, I watched it happen with me with, with Frank. Like, Frank has become like the, when you, when you want to see a Mets reaction, you go to Frank, you know, and I completely understand why that is. I don't think you know me. Like, my reaction of like, arguing why, you know, David Stearns logically made the right moves that didn't pan out. That's not as good as Frank chewing on an inflatable boat key.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. If the ultimate criticism is I am not very good at being watched watch sports, I'm okay with that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, if somebody was like boy, Frank, like that, that sit down long form one on one interview you did was terrible.

[Dave Portnoy]

Again, no kidding.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's not what Frank does. So. But I also get where Dave's coming from, where he's just like, yeah, no.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I, I, I Again like I didn't walk off being like we just reinvented streaming. But like I, I've done a lot of caves. It felt like most of the caves. If you're saying all caves need an overhaul, I'd agree with that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know what was different from that. Two Sundays that did felt the same thing to me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think we either need to like I said, mix up like some sort of hybrid live event with the live stream. If you can't do that, I think it's electric chairs. Like a one man electric chair is what I would watch.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like one or two fans that you know, like live and die with it. I, I go back to that. I always reference the first one was me and Clem and it was like you were watching two men like slowly die and sweat it out. And we had the moment with Conor Gillespie and that was the first time we realized like that the stream was behind.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. So I remember we've been what, 10 years in the Fix it now. They fix the things. The Fox one.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's right, Fox one stream. But it was like if you saw like the, the audience just went from like 5,000 to 10,000, you know, something's about to happen, you know.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was like this either going to be like a strike three and we're good or it's a home run. It was a home run, you know, so like that was like the truth. Those were like saw. It was like you're watching someone, you know, die when it's like 10 guys in a room. I love like the Mets Aliens I thought was, you know, it's got to be the right thing. It's just like a collection of guys and some are happy and some are sad because it's Red Sox, Yankees and.

[Dave Portnoy]

Caves are almost like teams. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

In a way.

[Dave Portnoy]

They gotta have this weird chemistry and.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You gotta have like the star and then the utility in the other. And you know, that's all.

[Dave Portnoy]

I would say that that is, that is a very fair criticism of the Red Sox fans. At least in the stream it's like there is. There wasn't a star.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And also like you said, it's not. The stakes aren't the same. If you guys. If this was like pre curse, you'd probably be a little bit different.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like five, four World Series later.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I also, I want to find that video because now I'm mad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'll tell you what I'm mad about. Dave can obviously say whatever he wants. Austin was killing you guys on roan.com that was like Marty, so boring. It was awful.

[Dave Portnoy]

And it's like, I mean, they're right. It was. But it was a stream for sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But also it's like, settle down, bro.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know the. Yeah, I don't know. I, I'm. I, I would be curious. And again, I don't know the answer. There might be answers. I don't know what the difference between Sunday or like most streams I've done. Like, did you guys. That stream wasn't more boring than like when me and Jake March watched Bruins Panthers.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Did you guys. Did anybody have like big bets on it?

[Dave Portnoy]

I had Crochet 10 strikeouts. I gave a fist pump when he struck out his 10th.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's a ballsy bet. What was the payout on that?

[Dave Portnoy]

250 plus 250. It wasn't like a crazy bet for 10 strikeouts. I think he was like 8 and a half was over.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He's that good, huh? I mean that's, that's a high. You can have it. You can have a phenomenal start and not hit 10 strikeouts. Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

And like I don't Think he hit it till like the seventh?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I would, yeah. I would hope so. Otherwise he's on pace to strike out 20. That's, that's a, a good bet by you. I'm surprised that the odds weren't even higher on that. But sometimes that makes a difference. If someone's in the corner like sweating out a $50,000 payout.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think that streams worse. I think the streams are better when.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

In Dave world that's it creates those moments your money and you're like.

[Dave Portnoy]

But the, like a gambling thing I get on Sundays because there's a million football games on a bunch of going on when it's two teams in the the planet that we don't like each other but obviously we have a rivalry between our sports.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like that passion is way better than gambling.

[Dave Portnoy]

Way better than. Yeah, like something you. I have a 20 year long bet on it. I have a 30 year long bet on it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I mean I, I, I'm just not a gambler at all. So it doesn't really compute. But I mean I, I would think what I feel, of course, you know the number, it depends on the number. But I think how I feel just about the team is more than I could about any bet.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Oh.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Unless it was like my life's worth, you know, Then it's like, okay, this.

[Dave Portnoy]

Is an incredibly irresponsible bet. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But if it was just like, I mean, I wonder what my number would be if it was like for the Mets to lose. The Mets out to lose. How much money for you to be like okay with it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Probably a weekend in Riyadh.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I would, I would go to Saudi Arabia well before betting on the Mets.

[Dave Portnoy]

Straight up.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's straight up real, man. Like if it was like, if it was like to eliminate them from the playoffs, I don't think there's like, I mean of course there's a number, you know.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But it's a hot, it's a, it's an irresponsibly high number where if somebody found out that I turned down like a little bit less than that, they'd probably be mad at me, you know. But I just, you know, it's like I said, it's like it's only thing I want in this world that I can't get. I can hopefully get more money.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Can't make this happen. So I'm not going to risk those, those times. But the Riyadh thing is funny, man. You know, it almost seems like there's, there's like more reaction going on now that it's, like, happened. I don't know. I feel like more comics are speaking up. Like, Marin had said something and Shane had said something. But now I see David Cross came out and people are starting, like, more people post weekend of it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Isn't it two weekend?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Is that what. Yeah. Okay, so we're in the middle of it now, and that's why.

[Dave Portnoy]

What. I think Burr has already done it, and he talked about it on his Monday morning.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What did he say?

[Dave Portnoy]

I only read, like, a paragraph quote, but he spoke very positively. He's like, it was a great time.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was surprised that, like, him and Louie did it, like, like you said yesterday or on the last podcast, I think. Or maybe this was off the air. I don't know. When you were like, no one on that lineup, like, needs the money.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. You want the money? You can't say you need the money.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But specifically, like, Burry Louie, like, Louie doesn't really do, like, anything for money.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He's kind of. It's. It's very strange for a guy who's like a kind of a recluse almost.

[Dave Portnoy]

To then pick this to come out to.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He must have got a bag or. Or something that made it worth his while, because I feel like, you know, just being like, hey, do you want to do, like, Madison Square Garden doesn't get him going.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what I mean? Like, I. I wonder what the. I wonder what the motivation is for those. Like, Kevin Hart was there. Right?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Burr, Louie I can speak to a.

[Dave Portnoy]

Little bit because he. I remember reading an article with him like, a year ago, so maybe this was even on his plate or maybe it was just something they were talking about. But he was. Excuse me. He was promoting the play. He was in.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Bilber.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, it was him. Bob Odenkirk and Kieran Culkin want to play.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, right.

[Dave Portnoy]

I forget what it's called, but whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Mr. Broadway. I can't remember the name of the show.

[Dave Portnoy]

I do know David wrote it, though. Oh, gay, gay, gay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Friedelberg has sucked somebody's dick in the bathroom of Hurricane O'Reilly. That was the gayest thing he's ever done.

[Dave Portnoy]

Mamet, actually a very toxic masculinity writer. But the.

[Theo Vaughn]

Gary Glenn.

[Dave Portnoy]

Glenn, Gary.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Glenn Ross. Yes. That's the name of the show.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's the name of the play. And in the movie, Alec Baldwin's in it. So they just did that on Broadway, but he was promoting that, and for some reason, they were talking about comedy in the Middle east and Bill Burr was saying I thought was interesting. This is definitely a rationalization and all that stuff, but it is like kind of a fair one. He was like, I'd be happy to go to the Middle east and I'm gonna paraphrase here, but he's like, because, you know, he said, I know there'll be things I can't say, but like, I gotta go and I gotta move the, the line of scrimmage 5 yards so the next person can come and they can move it three yards.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I did feel that way a little. I mean, again, that is a rationalization and I get it. You're kind of like making it fit. But.

[Dave Portnoy]

But it's one that's hard. You're hard pressed to argue against it. Yeah, he's right. Like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like what's, what is. I, I was going to say, what's the difference? I know what the difference is here. It's like if they continued to be a dictatorship, human rights violating regiment, then like, yeah, you're just sports washing and now comedy washing and all that while you're still behind closed doors doing like horrible things. That's pro. You know, that's probably definitely what's happening. I don't think anyone in Saudi Arabia is like turning over a new leaf. But if there is some element of like, we're. I get. I guess it's just such. But if, if there was a world where somebody was like, we're changing our culture and we need to westernize and meet in the middle and all that.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think it would be a good thing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But we just know it's. And that's the problem.

[Dave Portnoy]

It is. But like, I heard it and I was like, I mean, you got a point. Like, what.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What if there's a. A hundred years down the road there's peace in the Middle east or there's better relations between the Middle east and America or whatever and people are like, you know what like really started. It was like doing wrestling and sports and comedy. Like you, you could tell yourself that at night, but there's at least like a.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's just, it's a pack to call what it is. It's a great rationalization. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what it is? It's like, it's like. It's. Here is a hoop that you can jump through.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Yeah. There.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

A hoop exists.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, there are some things the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Hoop does not exist. There's one that you can make up.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. To.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

To, you know, while you count your money, you can talk about this.

[Dave Portnoy]

And, And I. Honestly, I. You'll have to find the article. I think it was in, like, Variety or something, but, like, I did. I don't even think I. I certainly had not heard of this, so I don't think he was even referring to this specifically. He might have done shows in the Middle east before, and he was talking about those.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know.

[Dave Portnoy]

It was weirdly timed to have it make sense now. But, like, I get. I get what he's saying. But then also, I. I heard that, like, the guy who's the. Admit the minister of. Of culture or whatever it is they call it, like, the A wing at the prison is named after him, and they hang people by their feet until they die. And it's. Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like, that's the guy who's cutting the check.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, you're talking about some dirty money. Dirty blood money.

[Dave Portnoy]

The prison. Prison is named after the guy who signed my check.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I. I haven't seen this or confirmed it for, like, myself, but I have heard people saying that, like, the way that they. Those guys you're talking about are, like, dressing and presenting themselves versus what they, like, usually do.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Is like, I guess they're westernized or whatever and, like, not looking, like, you know, in their traditional garb, which is like. Yeah, we're just, like, cosplaying here to trick you into thinking, you know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, in Veep, there's that line when Selena's dating. I think his name's Jafar, but the Muslim guy. And. And he. She. He, like, shakes hands with her. Oh, they're not even dating. It's just the first time they meet and they shake hands in the Oval Office, and she's like, well, no touching. And he goes, oh, no, it's fine. Just don't let the lunatics back home. And, like, I feel like that's how they are. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. They're about their money. And, like, you know, they're not, like, radical fundamentalist religious freaks. Like, we're driving money over here.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, really insensitive to say, but, like, if. If we did send over, like, Sydney Sweeney and, like, Megan Fox, like, I'm not gonna finish.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Keep going.

[Dave Portnoy]

I love it. Keep going.

[Theo Vaughn]

Kind of be like, this is awesome.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Send over our hottest only fans, girls, and show them a good time.

[Theo Vaughn]

I just feel like. And they don't have to. Like, they would just, like. Just, like, the slightest bit of cleavage, you know, like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

These are tits.

[Dave Portnoy]

We like these in America.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What do you guys think?

[Dave Portnoy]

We were talking about on the stream last night? A very exciting stream. And, yeah, we were breaking down geopolitical standards of comedy. I don't know. I didn't like it, but. No, we were just talking about, like, the sports washing and stuff like that. And I. I said. I was like, it has to stop at some point, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, I think it's not going to keep going.

[Dave Portnoy]

But, like, at least at some point. Like, at some point it has to stop, right? Because, like, everyone keeps going. This is really bad. And at some point, someone has. Right. Like, I feel like there's a larger people. You go, all right, it's trickled down far enough that we'll go, like. Like when it happened with wrestling and when it happened with the NBA and when it happened with live golf. Not the NBA.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Wrestling, golf and comedy have been like.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, in my NBA is. It's the Knicks jerseys. The Knicks. Oh, no, it's not Saudi.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's Abu Dhabi.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. And then there was the thing with LeBron and China and all that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, they're.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They're. They're mixed up in that political.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's all China, whatever you refer to as, like, sports washing. Like, at some point, doesn't someone have.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

To go, like, all right, I don't think so.

[Theo Vaughn]

I think at some point people stop saying it's bad.

[Dave Portnoy]

You think that happens first?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But.

[Dave Portnoy]

But that's disappointing.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I think.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Tends to be. I think. I think that it will stop because they will exhaust, like, the big names. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think they're interested in. I don't just keep going. I think they're like, we want the heavy hitters.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I wonder if, like, would Bill Burr do it again?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Maybe he would. I don't. Maybe. But, like, I. I just don't know if it's going to trickle down to the point that you'd be like, KFC Radio live in Saudi Arabia. I don't think they're interested in that. So there's a finite amount of stars, athletes, whatever that they want. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.

[Dave Portnoy]

Also, that's a good point, that they only want the cream of the crop. There isn't really gonna be a second layer. I was trying over to the Abu. Where is it? Saudi Arabia. We've got the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The dogs playing poker.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. I couldn't even think. I was trying to race through my mind for a comic. I was comfortable saying, and I didn't have one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a tough one. Yeah. I'll just use. I just use myself as examples.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was thinking about it more myself because I've very much. I've said to everybody here, and I said on the show, like, I'm going, and. But then I started to really think of it, like, you know, when push comes to shove, I probably really wouldn't. And that's not. I'm not. Not out of, like, morals really, as much as it's because a couple people did say to me, like, everybody kind of laughs. And some people say, like, yeah, but there was a couple people that were like, yeah, I. I know you would go. And that's disappointing, but, like, that's your choice. And I was like, oh, okay. Wow. Like, maybe I need to really examine this a little bit more. So I started thinking about it more, and it's like, it's. It's a tough. It's. It's a tough one to actually pull the trigger one. Because, like, if there was everybody, anybody in my life who was ever really important, that was like, you know, they, like, kill people like me over there, I'd be like, yeah, that sucks.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, But.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But even beyond the morals, and I'm talking about, like, I started to play out how it would literally go, and it's like, again, I'm. I can't even really put myself in the spot because I can't even imagine someone caring about me. Yeah. But if I was, like, getting off the plane and, like, shaking hands with mbs, you know what I mean? Or whoever it is, that's like. And then, you know, you're literally in their world and you. You can feel that you're getting played. Like, when I did that, I was sort of like, ah, yeah, you're right. I'm not that guy. You know, Unless the number was, like, astronomical, where I could look past all of it. So in a weird way, it's. I'm even a bigger piece of shit. Because it's not necessarily about the morals. It is more about, like, I don't want to travel over there. I gotta be like, we're taking, like, an Uber together or something. I don't know. Just the. The thought of really being entrenched in it. If I could, like, show up, do a podcast and bounce. But I think it's more of like, they want, you know, they're gonna get your money's worth.

[Dave Portnoy]

It is also.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's right. I don't know if I could do that, folks.

[Dave Portnoy]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Like, again, like, you have to add this caveat every time that it's not an issue for me. I can sit here on this couch and go, I wouldn't take the money because it's not offered to me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And that is, that's a big part of it. Because, like, if it was a reality, I do think you start to think about it differently one way or the other. Maybe you'd be like, I'm rich and I don't need it. Or maybe you'd be like, they're coming and I do want it. So that does change. How you would think about.

[Dave Portnoy]

Would be like, like telling people when I'm older, that's what bothered me. Like, like telling my, like, I think I'm telling my kids. I'm like, yeah, like, here's $6 million that I'd never spent because I didn't need it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And they're like, where'd this come from? And I'm like, you know, like, the worst day in American history. That guy. But like, like the, and the stuff with this, which is also so weir, it almost feels like Israel, Palestine, in times where you're like, you're scared to like, like, is it racist to say they did 9 11? And everyone's like, yeah, no, they just did it. And you're like, wait, really? They did it? Can we go get them, arrest them or something? You know, they did 9 11. What do you. Like, I don't even understand what that means.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, like, it's a pretty bad one to have on your record. But I almost think the opposite in a way. It's like, I think it's a really big deal right now. And I certainly think years from now it would be like, whatever I see.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I, I, I even just look.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

At the live golf. Like, nobody cares about talks about that anymore.

[Dave Portnoy]

No one cares about it except I bet the people whose, like, money it is. Like, yeah, no one in reality. Well, but like when it's your money, I think I disagree with that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Only because if you're the type of people, if you want it and do it, you don't care.

[Dave Portnoy]

Some of them for sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's a lot of people who took the check and then regretted it.

[Dave Portnoy]

I would not, not, not a majority by any stretch or anything like that. But I would, I would, I would hope there's a person or two who's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, you know, what would really be the move we're talking about like pr, because that's really what this comes down to is just like cuz this, this is where I say that I would go. Going back to like the insignificant thing that I said before. Like, I don't think this is changing things one way or the other. I just, I think that there's just thousands of years of like, I just don't think anything's changing.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So this really comes down to like what are people going to say about you and think about you for doing it in a way, you know, but.

[Dave Portnoy]

Also like how are you gonna feel about yourself? Well.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. Yes, Yes. I mean that's, that's where I think that most people doing it are like cool with it or not cool.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And you, and you made your. You know, I think both sides are fine sleeping in their bed for sure. And you're probably right, there's a couple that maybe don't. But I would love somebody to go get the money and come back and do something with it that's like, I took my $5 million and I'm funding the other side or I'm donating it to Palestine or whoever, you know, whatever it was that would like piss them off would be a cool move.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like that's a. Tim Dillon did it perfectly. And I don't think he did it on purpose, but he agreed to do it. And they were like, okay. And then he said something that got him fired from it, but they still had to pay him a certain amount.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like a. Yeah, I, I don't know if he was joking, but I think he said something like. He referred to them as. Something about them as they had slaves. Is that what it was? Yeah, yeah. I was, I was surprised. He's been pretty open. He said he got offered 375 grand, which is not a lot for him. That's like one month on Patreon.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's what I mean.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So that, that was surprising.

[Dave Portnoy]

Numbers are like the ones like the Dan and Dave where it's 10 million or 15 million or whatever. It was like, that's a big number. If it's 300 grand, that 150, like, wait, a nice fucking two stacker in Sheboygan.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That was surprising. And Tim is, like, as big as. Almost as big as it gets. So unless he just got, like, a shitty negotiation, like, if. If we're even in that ballpark, you know, if Dan and Dave are throwing out 10 million and. And Tim Nolan's getting 375, 000. Like somebody's either lying or doing it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Wrong or each or Both does split. So five.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So five million each. But that's a far cry from 375 grand. I. I'd have to imagine. Like, you think Kevin Hart, Louis or Burrow is like, the biggest on that. They're all kind of big and different in their own way. You know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know how. I don't under. I don't know, like, Saudi culture.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, that's what I'm wondering if you're like, we. We need a black eye. Let's give him the most.

[Dave Portnoy]

But they might need, like, no, like, Donnie has that in China where, like, they pay white people, like, five.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, right, Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know. I don't know what it's like inside.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's also funny to think, like, there's no way that these people watch, know, or care about golf, wrestling, and comedy.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Then they just know. I think they're, like, smart when it comes to money and all that, where they're like, let's identify the most, like, rabid Americans. And when you really. It's like, crazy wrestling fans. Golf has, like, the money and the affluence. And then, like, comedy has been what's, like, dominated our entertainment and political space for the last, like, you know, So I wonder if they're just like, who. Who's that? Louis CK?

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, yeah, give him.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Give him 5 million. Who's the black guy? Give him 2 million, you know? Or if there is some, like, a minister of culture that's like, you got to see Louise last special.

[Dave Portnoy]

It was.

[Theo Vaughn]

I would love to see, like, a Interview 2 version with, like, Kevin Hart, Louis, like, all that where they. They don't, like, kill anybody, but they go in. They go into Saudi, like, Arabia, and they just try and change things.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, I feel like I can see that. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What it like?

[Dave Portnoy]

Or I was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Again, this is. Go ahead.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, no, you go.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was going to say, like, it's entirely hypothetical. I don't want to be. I'm not making Excuses. And I'm certainly not being like pie in the sky here, but like, if for some reason there was ever a concerted effort, if Saudi Arabia was like, we need to change, would that change things? If it was like a, we are, we're getting rid of Sharia law, we're changing our views. And as, as kind of a show of faith we're going to like mix with the west and do these things. I would think so, right? I mean, like, how there's some magic way, you know, to. They promise and they have to, you know, magic genie, you know, you have to go through with it and, and people knew that was the, the case. Like, does that change things? Because then in a way it becomes like missionary work or something like that where it's like, yeah, we're like going out into the world and changing it and we're gonna like, it's like Jehovah's Witnesses. Yeah, it's like, it's the Bloods of the Crips. You know, that picture of them holding up the thing together. Like, if there was a genuine effort, I wonder if that would make things different or if people just be like, no, we cannot forgive 9 11. We can't forgive any of this. Again, that's more just like a thought exercise because it's not real or true.

[Theo Vaughn]

But I do feel like, I don't know, like if a dictatorship, that's kind of the beauty of, is like, kind of just takes one guy to like convince a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Dictatorships are rule, man. I wonder, I wonder if that's true though. Or someone would like overthrow you and chop your head off. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, and there's like deep religion.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Do you think a show in Russia would get as much pushback?

[Dave Portnoy]

No.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. So like, where do you, where, where's the line? And Again, I understand 911 is a line.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But like, there are plenty of other countries, honestly, including our own, where it's like, you're gonna perform, you go to, you're gonna go to like Michigan, people don't have clean drinking water. Like, you can play this game with morals and, and you know, what's right and wrong all around the world, including in our own home, where it's like, that's really bad. But if, if it's, if this is that much closer, that's okay. And this. And if what's the money versus, you know, how bad is your country? All that, you know, I don't know it. There is a clear cut argument, but then it also can get a little dicey.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's I, I. I think. I think the 911's got it because. Because it is like, you're right. There are plenty of things we do in other countries where it's like, well, that's their business, what they do with their citizens.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We turn a blind eye to a lot of stuff, and this is not turning a blind eye. It's like actively engaging in it. Trust me, I do understand all the things, but it's just like, I don't know, kids get shot every day in our schools, and we just, like, you can play that game with a lot of countries and a lot of people in a lot of ways, but, yeah, the 911's a. It's a doozy. It's a biggie.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I knew. I. I knew Muhammad Atta, right? He's Saudi. I know. Like, I know they're Saudis, but, like, when we say they, like, the crown family, gave them money.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. I think it's like those guys signed off, you know, they pushed the button. They sent the money. I think we.

[Dave Portnoy]

I feel like we should do something about that. I feel like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I feel like we did for maybe 15. Well, that's also another reason.

[Dave Portnoy]

Still saying they're the guys who did it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's another.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know if that. This is what I hear if that's true.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I feel like we should go get those guys. But don't you think there's also some guys being like. Some of these comics are being like, I mean, the government ain't doing about it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like, why is this on me? We know these guys funded and. Or executed 9 11, and they're just letting it. So that's. It's also like this. This, the whole government, is the Riyadh Comedy Festival in terms of what we turn a blind eye to or what we allow or condone or, you know, partner with. In some ways, it's like, oh, there's oil. We got to worry about this, that, and the other. It's like, so I'm gonna go do my jokes and get a bag.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, you know, I'll tell you what. It's another great rationalization.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. None of it is like a good, wholesome something. You can rest your head on the pillow at night, but if you want the money and you can make the argument like, there's people way above me that should be doing way more, you know.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Than just, like, I'm gonna tell some jokes, because that, again, I do.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I guess that's. That's where it comes out like someone's got to say no eventually. Right. Because like the bucks gotta stop. Well, I think he keeps going like, well, LeBron did it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think Shane and Marin was a, was a good yes.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, but I also, I'm not, I'm not strictly speaking in comedy. I just mean like, yeah, everywhere you go now, right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What do you think? What do you think the next sector that they go after college football and is.

[Theo Vaughn]

What about music? Have they with music that much?

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I don't know what you can do with.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I also don't think they will ever.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, oh, like have the shows over there have music.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't think they'll ever with women though.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, good point.

[Theo Vaughn]

So like ask if you think it's like worse or better for a woman, like an American woman comedian to go do it worse.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, I don't know about word. I think it'll be worse for her. I don't know about like backlash.

[Theo Vaughn]

Do you think it's like, I can do it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I almost think a girl going, it's.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like there was one.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You like earned it. You deserve it in a way. I don't know if you went and did it and you were like, like I said, you come back home and you donate some money or you do something like, this is for the women who can't do that over there. I think that's almost like more of a statement than, than a guy just going and, and taking the money again.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I'm just, I'm ignorant. Like, I don't know, I don't know what, what. I don't know what women's life is like in Saudi Arabia. Like, not exactly.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm sure Saudi Arabia has parts where they like chop your hands off in the streets. And then I think there are parts that are, I mean, people, I see, I see it on Instagram all the time. These like beautiful resorts that are like the nicest settings and buildings you could ever be in. But you got to go to Saudi Arabia to do it and there's still a lot of people who do it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So it's like, I don't know, there's, there's a whole, it's just a little more nuanced than, than I think it is and isn't all at the same time. It's a very clear cut thing. But also, if you want to get into the nitty gritty, I think there's a lot of different things to be said.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I, I, I'll give you the grace of it being like yeah, it's a conversation, but, like, ultimately, I think you're pretty crazy to take it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I just. Again, I can't. I go back to, like, I don't think. I don't think anything's changing. And I think if I could do some good with this in my life for the people that matter to me, that means more.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know, but maybe I'm a piece of. I. I did, like. I mean, I think Shane's really important because Marin spoke out about it, but Marin. It's almost becoming politics in a way where, you know, it's like, Marin is so outspoken all the time that it just kind of becomes like, that's what you expect from him.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The same way you expect certain things in the left and the right. Shane is always the one. Like, people try to put him in a box or assume he's one way or. And then when he. You know, when he doesn't say. When he says something that's not hardcore conservative, people go like, wait a minute, What? And. And so I think he always kind of keeps people on their toes. So I think that's a big one to come out and say, say no to. I also think legitimately, Shane being, like, a history buff and, like, into that stuff, like, played into it. You know, some guys are probably like, oh, yeah, like, they do up stuff in Saudi Arabia. But, like, whatever. Like me, I'm like, whatever. I think if you watch documentaries and read books and, you know, all of it, it's a lot easier to be like, do you know, like, some of the details of what they do to women? Some of the. You know, when you start to hear some of the horrific specifics, it's a lot different. So. But yeah, Marin was. Was like, I feel like Marin and Theo Vaughn need to do, like, rough and rowdy. I feel like that, like, they almost. I don't know if they like. I think they definitely don't. At least Marin doesn't seem to like Theo. But I also think that's just like, what they represent again, almost like political left and right. But he did. He did a funny bit being, like, talking about Hitler. He was like, if Hitler was live, he'd go on Theo Vaughn's podcast.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Yeah.

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[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Special? That was, that was crazy. I, I, at first I was thinking that was maybe just like, you know, right away. So, so Theo had a Netflix taping and the a bunch of posts on social media being like, theo just bombed. And at first I was thinking, I don't know, maybe that's one fan or someone who has an ax to grind or whatever. But it seems like every review seems to say, like, he, he was bombing. He was stopping and starting. He was going backstage, he was saying outright, like, what do I say next? And stuff like that. And then there was that clip of him afterwards where he was, like, apologizing to the crowd. Yeah, he was like, it's been a rough month for me. My mental health is suffering. I've been trying not to take my own life. So, like, I'm sorry about that. So that's, that's a bad situation all around.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. He's probably just busy as hell. Like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I, I, I think Theo, I mean, I don't really know the guy, so I can't say, but I just know if I was him, and I mean, he really blew the up. Like, like Rogan is, like, the biggest in the world, but he's, like, been the biggest in the world, and he's been going up since 2009.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Theo was like, I'm on Real World, and then I'm the goofy guy with the, like, the Southern accent. And then it went boom. Like, he's got 15 million followers. Like, that's a lot. That's not just like, you're popular. That's like, you are a cultural, like, icon. And I think if that was me, and it was like, all the newfound fame, all the new success, and then by his own design. So I can't, like, give him too much slack. Like, you get involved in the politics. And I would have to venture to guess that he's a little in over his head on the politics.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, like, you got to really be well informed to understand what you're doing and what's happening. And then that's part of the criticisms of these comedy podcasts. Doing it is like, I don't think you really understand all the implications, which.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, none of us do.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. I'm not saying you're dumb. I'm smart. It's like, I think we're all in that boat. Like I said the other podcast, like, I think a lot of people are thinking about tickets and fans and followers and not geopolitical ramifications, you know, So I, and I think it seems like Theo kind of had that realization. There was like, he tweeted, like, he doesn't agree with. I, I used him in that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Promo.

[Dave Portnoy]

He said, well, that's also like, like that I get. I guess it's not. I don't know what the word for it is, but, like, anyone who was following, like, I follow Theo, you could see that was gonna happen.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You. You made your own bed.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like you made your bed and now you're upset with your bed and you don't want to sleep in it. It's a good sign that you don't want to sleep in it. But it's a little too late. The bet is fully made when, like.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, you tweet in pictures, like, with the Trumps at Mar a Lago, like, yeah, you know how the Trumps operate. They're going to start using you to market themselves.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I saw a post that was talking about how Theo was saying, like, I'm trying not to take my own life. And this, the, this was a kind of a conspiratorial super extremist political account, I think. And it was saying, like, this is so important because Theo comes from the manosphere, comes from the bro culture, and he's speaking. I think they were talking about how he spoke out against Israel. He's like, pro Palestine. And then they were saying because of that, he might, they might be trying to take his life, they might be trying to kill him and he's got to come out and all those crazy things. Right. But the main point was this, them being like, this is so important because Theo is speaking up for what's right and good. And a lot of the comments are like, are you out of your mind? Like, yeah, maybe in this one moment. But he. He had to come out and say that. And people were so surprised by it because of everything else he's done leading up to that. So, like, yeah, it's tough. I sympathize with them as just like a human. But logically speaking, it's tough to be like, yeah, man.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Like, I just saw this one coming.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And maybe he didn't see it coming.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then it's not super duper lessons.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't mean I don't. On stage and all stuff.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

I. Like, I knew the government was going to start using Theo Vaughan to.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, they already did, right. Show you're getting.

[Dave Portnoy]

They were already doing it. When you were at Margal, Mar a.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Lago, you're at the inauguration when you're, you know, all those guys. Like, I mean, it happened when Dave interviewed him. It was like, this is very clearly. You're using me to get votes, and I'm using you to.

[Dave Portnoy]

This is transactional transaction situation.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And if you agree to that and you're cool with that, fine. I just could see a scenario where, like, he got in so deep, like, he's not an idiot. I think he knew what was going on. But when all of a sudden, like, more or less overnight, in the grand scheme of things, people view you as, like, a political pundit. It's like, you. You got to be like, whoa, wait a second. That's why it's a dicey game. It's like, same thing with.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think that's almost kind of like the. Like, the Saudi stuff we're saying. Like, someone's got to eventually say no where. Like. Like, that was kind of with, like, Paul. Like, so many celebrities were on this rise because of cancel culture or whatever that, like, someone should have been like, guys, we're all being a little crazy, right? Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's all very reactionary.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Because I. I do get where comics were coming.

[Dave Portnoy]

Wait, this is what I'm gonna say.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Sorry.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, I feel like this used to happen in the past, and I feel it doesn't happen anymore. Like, politicians used to, like, reject backings. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, lobbyists. Like, I'm not gonna take your money. Because then, I mean, not even that.

[Dave Portnoy]

But like, like, like, like David Duke would give. Say he backed this politician, and the politician would go, yeah, I reject his backing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yes.

[Dave Portnoy]

People don't do that. You Know, people don't go, like, I have this group's backing, I don't want it. I feel like that's, that's a much.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Rarer thing these days. It's like when you're in an argument, a barstool and Nate's on your side.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, like, like, yeah, I don't like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I reject your like, extension of friendship.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like. Yeah, exactly. I feel like nowadays I feel like everyone. It's just get as much, as much as you can and I don't care. Just as long as some, as long as you're liking me, it's fine. Like, I think more people should go. I don't want that group to like me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The whole, I disagree with that group. The whole world is quality, quantity over quality in every, in every way, shape and form. Now that's, that's a, a great point about it. And.

[Theo Vaughn]

I. Sorry.

[Dave Portnoy]

No.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, I was just going to say like, I actually almost feel like if changes were to be made the only way. Cuz I feel like now it's so like influencer, heavy, comedian heavy that like if you were to kind of be like, get everyone on your side and then you just slowly like kind of boiling water, like change their opinions a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Like if it was.

[Theo Vaughn]

That actually feels more effective than being like, no guys, like, don't, don't listen to me for sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then I agree with that. I think it takes a very like smart, measured person who has like a plan in place. Like, let's get these guys and then we're gonna like change them. I think most people are just like, that's. I'm gonna sell that many more tickets, I'm gonna get that many more views and then I'll deal with the ramifications later. Even, even.

[Dave Portnoy]

Gotta keep your house clean. Yeah, yeah. Otherwise just to pile up and you go, this place is fucking. Exactly.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. I mean, even when, when, like when, when Trump was, you know, we were like going to war. Felt that way and he didn't release the Epstein files and all. And all, all the comics were like, this isn't what I signed up for. And a lot on the other side was like, we told you that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, yeah, if you were paying attention, it's exactly what you signed up for.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's, that's where it gets hard. It's like if it was. If, if everybody was surprised and it's like, yeah, listen, we didn't see if we elected Barack Obama and he became a dictator. I think people be like, holy shit. But when there was a Whole slew of people saying, you're getting played. And this is only step one, because step two is he's going to do this, that, and the third. And then they're like, hang on. Yeah, we told you. That's where some of the, like, it's hard to flip flop now. And it's.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I guess I, I will see credit this. A lot of people aren't flip flopping. They should stop talking about it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, that's the other thing. That's the other thing is that people are just like politics.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, politics is, is like any other wave of content. You know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like, oh, 100.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We got to talk about Caitlin Clark in the WNBA right now. And like a year from now that'll eventually calm down.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's gonna talk about bacon now. Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Stupid things that, that just get, you know, a hold on culture and politics should not be one of those things. Politics shouldn't be one of those stupid fads. It should be something that, like, matters and is important and, and lasts. And instead it's just like the flavor of the week.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

We turned. What was the ICE video, Theo? Ice video.

[Dave Portnoy]

It was like a. Is a selfie video Theo took of himself, I'm sure in a different situation, but he's. He's saying, heard you got deported, bro.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Bye. And then need like a height video for.

[Dave Portnoy]

And then it went into a highlight reel of them, like masked guys tackling. I don't know if it was tackling people, but like, you know, dragging people off and stuff like that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Make this edit of themselves a White House.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah. So they, like used. You know, it would be. It's almost like if. Yeah, you took me out of context being like, if I one time sarcastically said something good about the Yankees and.

[Dave Portnoy]

Then the Yankees, like, took a.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Took a video and like, even this.

[Dave Portnoy]

Guy'S rooting for him.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, no, I did not say that. Yeah, that's. But it's like, it's. It's probably a little bit like it seems like paranoia to be like, wait a minute, if I say this. ICE might take that out of context and use it to make like a hype video. But if you're going to be that big, successful, important, and go that heavy into the political world, you or someone on your team needs to be smart enough to have that foresight. Yeah, I don't think I would ever think to be like, well, wait a minute, Immigration is going to use me against them. But, like, if you're going to get into that World, I would love an advisor or someone who's like, oh, that happened to this guy before. That's what they do. You know, you got to like, if you're going to, if you're going to be in it, you got to know.

[Theo Vaughn]

Ask for rights or something, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't think so.

[Dave Portnoy]

Because you think the White House asked for rights.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't give a man. He immediately tweeted, was like, this is not my check.

[Theo Vaughn]

And take it down. Send me a check, you know, where I live. And they took it down very quickly.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, but the damage, you know, it's already out there. Yeah. Like, smart in a way. It's like we'll, we'll delete this in five hours.

[Dave Portnoy]

But it's out there, right? Yeah. And then people will talk about it for two weeks. Then it'll be better promo than if we left it up 100%.

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No.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

For you. I know you're not a. You're not really a big Bruce guy, right?

[Dave Portnoy]

I'm not. Not a big Bruce guy. I just want to not like cons Or Kirk or something like that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I want you to just like tell me, you know, what your reaction is. What's, what's your opinion of that? What's your gut reaction? That.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't really have one. I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Do you think it sounds like Springsteen?

[Dave Portnoy]

I think it sounds enough. Yeah. I actually I, I thought Springsteen does his own lyrics. I thought they're using Bruce's voice in this. I could be wrong on that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't think so. Only because people are reacting to it like they're, they're like judging it.

[Dave Portnoy]

The I, I, I, I saw one DJ Bean is usually pretty calm and.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Also he, he had a quote that said like it took me a long time to nail the voice. Okay, maybe, maybe I was speaking.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I, but I only really bring it up because I saw Kirk, who is Kirk is like the biggest Bruce fan. It's like Kirk and 15 year old Steve, you know, and he just quotes you and said nope. I thought that was good. Good enough. That like from he's a movie, he's acting, you know, it's not gonna be perfect. I think that passes as a Bruce.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Kirk's obviously a Die Hard, so he would yeah know much better than I. But like yeah, if I was watching.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The movie, I think Kirk was gonna have that reaction about any, any performance from Jeremy Allen Wed. So that doesn't surprise me, I guess. But my first reaction was like, oh, I think he did pretty good. I think it, I mean I don't know Bob Dylan enough, but I think Shalam did Bob Dylan well. Right. I think Jamie Fox did Ray Charles like perfectly. I thought that was good enough. I'm sure if you're a Die Hard Kirk fan, like you know the idiosyncrasies and the little nuances of his voice that maybe he didn't nail it. But that I, I guess my point is that's just like a, almost a impossible thing like the Die Hard fans are going to be.

[Dave Portnoy]

But that like, like, you know, like Brady statue gets unveiled and Patriot fans are like that's not the rest of the world's like it's because you're so passionate about it is why it's actually, you know what we before the game last night we were talking, we went to a bar, the Boring Crew. And we were just talking about boy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What a fall from grace from Club Cool to boring. Do you guys know Club Cool Story? When we first moved to New York, like me fights, light switch Lou. Was there a couple other like People who. I don't think you're here anymore. Was Dan there?

[Dave Portnoy]

Dan was there.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think we all went to Kanye, the Life of Pablo tour, when he had the floating. Right. He had the floating stage in that. And we went to the Garden. We had a suite. It was like Hank's old roommate. Hank's old roommate's new roommate.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, I guess his newer at the time.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, it was. Is like right hand boy. Like, right hand man of Kanye. Right?

[Dave Portnoy]

He was like, he was a floor manager at the time. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I feel like I was weird stories. Zach was like, designing Yeezy, like, picking beats.

[Dave Portnoy]

He was, like, running.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So we, we got tickets, we went. And Dave did not like that. Did not like that. I, I, I don't know if it was because, like, he was not invited or if he just doesn't like us or whatever, but, but he, he called us club cool. Like, oh, look at club cool, like, going out together. And he put up a picture of us, and he, like, on Microsoft paint, like, numbered it with red paint, like, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And went through being like, this guy would have no life without me. This guy would have no life without me.

[Dave Portnoy]

This guy would have no life with me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And what do they think they're doing? Going to this Kanye concert, I guess, without me. So that was club Cool and now. But that's, you know. Yeah, you were young and cool. Now you're old and late. Yeah, you're aging appropriately.

[Dave Portnoy]

Congrats.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You're now the boring crew.

[Dave Portnoy]

But we were talking about. It was about one battle after another, and they were talking about one battle after another. And is that what spre is the Leo movie? Leo. Okay. And, and I think Hubs was like, I'm gonna watch. You said something very similar to what you said. He's like, I'm gonna watch it late, and I'm not gonna like it. And I was like, I was like, I get that. And I was kind of explaining what we explained on the show. But then I realized the other. Another big thing about, like, why some people like people like me like a movie much more is I was like, it's like the Yankees dude. Like, you are invest. Like, if I watch a baseball game, hey, if I watch a Yankee game with you, or if I watch the game with you, I'll recognize a good game. I'll go, that was a good game. And if something spectacular happened, you'd be like, you don't even know the half of it, dude. Like, yeah, that guy's been hurt for six months. Yeah, that guy's been. That guy's. His wife's got cancer.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, sure.

[Dave Portnoy]

And like, I know those things about a movie. So, like, I. I obviously like it much, much more.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Because I know all the little things rather than.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That makes sense.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You appreciate it more. You understand why it's a bigger deal, right? All that stuff.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, yeah, I can watch a good. I can watch a good Yankee game and go, that was a great baseball game. But if there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, you would.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Not invest in that stuff. I. I think that's a great point about the. The Leo movie to the point that I did. I still, like, have to. You have to remind me of the name. That movie is called the Leo Movie. Like, Like, I. It's actually very interesting when you, like. I'm sure they think about this in terms of marketing when once you get the major stars, that movie is the Leo and Sean Penn movie, in my mind, you know, like. Like, I just heard that. That these two, like, knocked it out of the park and it's coming, and I didn't know what it was about. I didn't know the title. I didn't even, like, care to watch the trailer or find out about it. It was just like, I'm going to watch this no matter what it is. I've heard good things about it, but I don't know anything about it. It's almost. It's like if I was like, a writer, creator. Of course you want Leo and Sean Penn to be the guys bringing your words to life, but it also almost overshadows everything else in the movie, you know? Did you see. I saw a clip of McConaughey talking about True Detective Season 1. I love this because, you know, you know how I love those clips about that? I think are. I'm skeptical if they're even real. That everything is improvised, off script. Didn't mean to happen.

[Dave Portnoy]

I saw that we. We, I think, officially wrapped mascots today. I still don't know what improv is. Well, like, it's improv. Like. Like when. When we're discussing a scene before we start shooting. And if I'm like, you know what? I might say blank. And they're like, oh, that's a good idea.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, no, I think improv is like, while the cameras are rolling. So, like, I watched a clip the other day of.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't. I don't know that it is.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I really actually. Okay, I shouldn't say that's what it is. That's what I Because it to be.

[Dave Portnoy]

People say it that often, that's an insane amount of time. So to be doing something brand new.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

On camera, that's why I, at least as far as I understand, that's why I'm always skeptical. That makes sense. That, that, that can't be happening as often as these people are saying what I think it is. I watched the clip the other day. I love this account. I wish I could remember the name of it. They do. One half of the screen is the movie and the other half is the scripts. And it scrolls. And it was when Coach Taylor. It's in Wolf of Wall Street. Coach Taylor's telling. When they're on the boat, they have that cheeky back and forth where they're smiling. And he's like, this is a great boat. It's gonna be great. When I sees it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And he's like, yeah, why don' My boat, like, enjoy this? That whole scene. And so it's scrolling and they are not making up the script.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But they're cutting pieces out, they're jumping around, they're saying it out of order. They're improving a little bit where he's like, yeah, go yourself. Like, that wasn't in there. But they said that, you know, that I think is probably much more. I, I, I really, all the time. Yeah, that, and that's what I think. I bet, and I bet you in comedy, I think comedy, people start going like, tit for tat. And I think it's just, I'm, I'm making up a joke about what you look like, what you're wearing, and they just go. I think in like dramas, and it's more like you add a little flavor, you Right. Change some words, omit some things. That's what like, improv is.

[Dave Portnoy]

I always. There's a joke Pete Holmes has about acting where he's talking about Anthony Hopkins in, In Hannibal and he's like, you know, like, I had her brain with some far beans or however he does that, he's like, do you know Anthony Hopkins just did that? Yeah. And he's like that. I thought you just do what the director tells you to do. Like, that's acting. And I always, I was like, oh, remember when I first heard that joke? I was like, oh, I didn't, I, I always assumed that, like, yeah, the director told Anthony Hopkins to do that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, like, even that, I wouldn't really call that improv. It's just that's his character.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like he, But I, I mean, I think in the literal sense of the word.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like, yeah, I guess he is. You know, I. I think of him. Okay, so let me. I'll say this. I think of improv. Like, I didn't even know I was gonna say that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, it just happened in the moment.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's what I. And I. I don't know, like, it took over and. Yeah. I don't know if that's the right definition.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And maybe. I wonder if. If, like, if it was like, we're about to do the scene, and Anthony Hopkins was like, yo, check this out. I got something in store that I will call that.

[Dave Portnoy]

That I've done too. Yeah, I'm a smackdown.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what I mean? Right, right, right.

[Dave Portnoy]

But, like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I'm sure these all. I'm sure definition kind of changes based on these clips and these stories and interviews where it's like, how much that's.

[Dave Portnoy]

I guess I really want. I guess you could Google it, I'm sure, with the definition improv. Well, I think if you're telling people beforehand, I don't think that's improv.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, even in. Oh, no, you go, well, I was gonna say even in sunny. Like, I always wonder how many of the lines are actually written down, because it feels like they just, like, say before. Like, this is the direction.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The vibe of some shows do do that. Right. I think curve is like that there's a framework, and they're like, just get to the. From point A to point B, whatever happens in the middle. That feels like true, real improv.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. That's how they do, like, sketches.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But, like, everyone has agreed to do that. I think improv is also different when it's like, oh, Leo's going off script. Like, let's just. You gotta try to play with him and go along for the ride. Like, I think that probably happens with the top dogs, because. So the reason I bring this all up is it was a clip of McConaughey talking about True Detective season one. And he said it was. He said, like, one line was like, everything was from the script.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And he was like. He said it in a good way. The headline read wrong and said, like, Matthew McConaughey says the script from True Detective was hot. And when he said he was, like, it was hot.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, okay, I get it now. But he.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And he said that he would go to Nick Pizzlotto and he'd be like, nick, I'm thinking I'm going to say this, that, and the other. And he was. And Nick, he said was like, no, that's good. Like, what you came up with is awesome. It's just not Rust's character, and it doesn't make sense for this thing. So I think when you get to the top dogs, they probably do everything you just described all the way up to. I'm. I have a soliloquy in my head that I'm just gonna rip.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You guys have to listen to me. I bet you when it's a good writer and or lesser actors, it's like.

[Dave Portnoy]

Stick to the words.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, we got a budget. We got time.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, say the line. Yeah, we can go do another scene.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. And you also think about there's like, somebody takes. You know, it's like one time Anthony Hopkins went, the next time, maybe he went. And they're all improv, but the one makes it. And you think it was this one time lightning in a bottle thing, when it's actually like, ah. We tried a whole bunch of different.

[Dave Portnoy]

I remember reading that. What's his name, Christoph Walls, that people like. Obviously, he's a great actor, and it's like he does 40 takes and he does something different every time. And that just gives the editor a ton of material.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I almost think that would probably be, like, too much.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Can you just give me 2? 3. How do you decide between which of.

[Dave Portnoy]

The 40 takes Kristoff Wal gave me the best?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, all of them. Can I.

[Dave Portnoy]

Editor.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't want to, like, ch.

[Dave Portnoy]

My.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Life a lot harder, bro.

[Dave Portnoy]

You like this paint or this paint or this paint? Like, just give me two, and I'll pick one.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The white one.

[Dave Portnoy]

They're all white.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't buy the. Barry Keogen just went and, like, the grave that, like, I'm thinking of how many people are standing around on a set for you to take that risk.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

A level of balls I don't think that anybody has.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But then also, I think of it as. I think of, like, those guys as, like, athletes. Like, the top guys. Like, the top athletes where it's like when. When. When guys come up with the plate, like, we're down by two. There's. And there's two men on. We need a three run home run. And they do it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And it's like, oh, that guy's an alien. To the point that, like, some of those top actors might be, like, so good at this that they' I'm gonna. That grave.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. And it's gonna work.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And normal people at risk or have the confidence, but they're like, yeah. Also, I think there's a little bit chicken of the egg where it's like Barry Keogan can go a. He can a grave.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, if I did that, they'd be.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, get the out of here. So I think that depends on who it is, too. That's what it comes down to. No one's asking me to go to Riyadh. No one's gonna put me in the movie where I'm.

[Dave Portnoy]

If I was.

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[Dave Portnoy]

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[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, she could.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

I think it's like 75 grand. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. For a commissioner to have like, like, like you said, like. I know. I get what she's saying.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

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[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

I.

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[Dave Portnoy]

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[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The league would continue. It wouldn't, like, fold, but, like, it would be like, if Brady was the only one.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, like, they mentioned, like, three or four people was like, backers Clark and Angel Reese. And it's like, those are the three you probably shouldn't with.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Theo Vaughn]

Caitlin, the one that was, like, putting up or, like, complaining like, no, no, no.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was someone else being like, that'd be like. But that's. Yeah, she. She's. Caitlin Clark, I think, has handled herself. Yeah. Immaculately. Like, she was thrown into race talk, gender talk, money talk, and she's always just kind of like, did you see that clip of her and Sophie Cunningham on the bench the other day? That was a little off putting. It was the first time I was like, I don't like that. Their assistant coach was like. I think they were saying we should review it, whatever the play was. And they weren't reviewing it, so they were mad. They're like, real. And the assistant coach came over and was, like, telling them to calm down and. And Sophie Cunningham was, like, sitting like this, and she was like, like, get away. And she, like, the coach, like, put her hand on her shoulder she's like, don't touch me. And it was, it was just very like, it actually made me feel bad for them because I was like in the NBA, a player and a coach would be like nose to nose and like screaming and yeah. And it's like, oh my God, they're gonna fight. And you would say that's unprofessional but you wouldn't say that. It's like, you know, you wouldn't like make you think about their like them personally and maybe this is just my own. I'm a piece of. But like when I see like to me that looks like like bossy girls being. You know what I mean? Like it's that in their world that's just like them being an athlete, blowing off steam. But instead of being like tough or you know, pushing, fighting, it came across as very like mean girl, you know. And that's a problem that they would run into with people like me where it's like, yeah, it's going to look different. Guys and girls and way, you know, they, they react and all that sort of.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think other sexes, we do not like seeing the other sex angry.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right?

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, yeah, like Swifties just did this with Travis Kelsey because he got an argument with Reed and they were like, he's dangerous to be around. It's like he's a guy, he's hot right now.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And it's probably the same thing like Sophie's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Sophie's a lot right now. I said it with my one minute man about Cardi and Nikki. Cardi and Nikki went on this Twitter beef. Started out, Nikki was like, you didn't sell enough records and your album flopped, which it didn't, but whatever, that's what she's saying. And then it devolved into Cardi came back and was like, I think Nikki threw the first shot talking about her kids. Cardi was like, it's your son's birthday, you should put down the phone and celebrate him. Nikki was like, your daughter's ugly, bro. That's nothing. Cardi comes back and says you were on drugs during your pregnancy and your rotten popped out your slow ass son who's now five years old, tippy toeing around the house and can't spell his own name.

[Dave Portnoy]

Cardi B said that?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yes. And then, and then Cardi was like, you're talking about like me and my family. Your dad's a crackhead and your brother, his stepdaughter, like they went nuclear. And I, and in my video I was like, the guy rappers, they just kill each other. They just buy a gun and shoot you and you're dead. And somehow I think that's better than what's happening here. It was uncomfortable. They both had, like, between 10 and 20 tweets each that were just like, it's a bad look for all of them. It was like, what the is going on, dude?

[Dave Portnoy]

Nikki should have replied to the one about her. Her fetal alcohol syndrome. At least he's gonna have a job.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

At barstool one day. I'm setting my son up for. Yeah, Nikki called Nikki. Nikki said that your daughter's ugly and then called another one of her kids a roach and a monkey. And then. And then Cardi said, like, your son's autistic and can't read or something. It was like, that one checks out.

[Dave Portnoy]

Nikki.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Nikki's tough because I do think. I think, like, both her husband and her brother are, like, registered sex.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Which really hamstrings your ability to have arguments, you know?

[Dave Portnoy]

So.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that, that. But that is a difference. Like, like, it's a female sport. There's a. Obviously, men, like, dominate sports fandom, and I think certain things like that are off putting when it's just like, that's how it looks. For Caitlyn.

[Theo Vaughn]

No.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, for Cardi. No. I. I mean, I can't. I cannot condone that. I said in my video, I said, I'm Bardi Gang Bronx. Stand up. Like, I. And I do. I do like her more than Nikki. All that's true. But, like, that. This was deplorable by everybody. Despicable behavior from everybody, where you get.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, wrapped up in, like, female rapper beef. Oh, because I could see.

[Dave Portnoy]

Please.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I wouldn't give anything to have Cardi B have a tweet storm about me. Who the are you to be talking? I seen the. I seen you in the Daily Mail. I seen you on Page Six. I know what you've done.

[Dave Portnoy]

Be like, let's go. Look what you did. Stupid.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'll never forget, man. Alexis Ruiz was.

[Dave Portnoy]

Was my.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

My biggest crush of my life. And she used to just go, do you want to get smacked? Always. She was legitimately like, Martina, Martina or whatever. Use a bunch of white boys. Right? She was always like, you dumb white boys. You want to get smacked? And I was kind of like, yes, let's. I was like in sixth grade, I was like, I think I do. I don't know what I'm into yet, but let's give it a try. Great. All right, we'll see you guys next week.

[Dave Portnoy]

See you next week.