Josh Smith and Stephen A Smith Might Just Run for President and VP in the Next Election

Summary

KFC Radio Episode Summary: "Josh Smith and Stephen A Smith Might Just Run for President and VP in the Next Election"

Release Date: May 15, 2025

In this lively episode of KFC Radio, hosted by Kevin Clancy alongside special guests Josh Smith and Stephen A. Smith, the trio delves deep into the intersection of sports, media, and unexpected political aspirations. The conversation is a blend of insightful sports analysis, humorous banter, and candid discussions about potential political ambitions, all rooted in the quintessential bar conversation ethos that defines KFC Radio.

1. Opening Banter and Political Aspirations

The episode kicks off with Josh Smith humorously addressing the podcast's demographic, stating:

Josh Smith [00:09]: "Just because we're on a predominantly white podcast, we're not going to find ways to give Tom Thibodeau credit. I'm not doing it, bro."

This lighthearted remark sets the tone for the episode, highlighting the hosts' willingness to tackle serious topics with a humorous twist. The conversation quickly veers into the realm of politics as Josh and Stephen A. entertain the idea of running for President and Vice President, respectively.

Josh Smith [17:52]: "I'm starting my own show. And what I want to do is kind of take this immediate thing by storm..."

This segment hints at their ambitions beyond sports commentary, suggesting a potential venture into political discourse.

2. In-Depth NBA Analysis: Knicks, Celtics, and Key Players

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the current state of NBA teams, with a particular focus on the New York Knicks and the Boston Celtics. The hosts discuss the impact of player injuries, coaching strategies, and team dynamics.

• Jayson Tatum's Injury and Its Impact:

  Stephen A. Smith [01:24]: "Now, Port, I actually, like... I don't understand what all the hullabaloo was about that night."

  The discussion centers around Jayson Tatum's Achilles injury and its ramifications for the Celtics' season.

• Knicks' Prospects and Team Dynamics:

  Josh Smith [03:44]: "So this is like Jason Tatum getting hurt is like Aaron Judge getting hurt."

  Here, Josh draws parallels between injuries in basketball and baseball, emphasizing their effect on team performance and future prospects.

• Coaching Strategies Under Tom Thibodeau:

  Josh Smith [38:22]: "Look, his teams finish in the top four every year. Why?"

  They critique Tom Thibodeau's coaching methods, discussing how his strategies influence team success.

3. Media Presence and Launching Their Own Shows

The conversation transitions to the hosts' experiences with media appearances and their aspirations to create their own shows.

• Stephen A. Smith's Media Ventures:

  Kevin Clancy [19:20]: "Have better sex with BlueChew..." (Note: Advertisements are skipped as per instructions.)

• Josh Smith's Ambitions:

  Josh Smith [43:11]: "I'm starting my own show. And what I want to do is kind of take this immediate thing by storm..."

  They discuss the challenges and opportunities of establishing their own platforms within the competitive media landscape.

4. Racial Banter and Stereotypes

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in racially charged humor and discussions about stereotypes, reflecting the show's unapologetically candid style.

• Stereotyping in Sports Fanbases:

  Josh Smith [61:27]: "I feel like black people are way funnier than white people."

  This statement sparks a broader conversation about racial stereotypes in humor and media representation.

• Cultural References and Personal Anecdotes:

  Stephen A. Smith [64:32]: "And so when you're a young Jewish kid, you have your bar mitzvah..."

  The hosts share personal stories and cultural insights, further exploring themes of race and identity within sports and media contexts.

5. Critiques of Sports Strategies and Player Performances

A recurring theme is their critique of current sports strategies, player performances, and media coverage.

• Fighting in Sports:

  Josh Smith [15:30]: "It's racism. One guy's white. One guy..."

  They debate the acceptability of fighting in different sports, questioning media biases and the normalization of aggression.

• Player Accountability:

  Josh Smith [45:22]: "Yeah, you make us... we're not your friends. You're not my friends."

  The hosts emphasize the importance of player accountability and performance, often using blunt language to express their frustrations with underperforming athletes.

6. Personal Stories and Anecdotes

Interwoven with their sports and political discussions are personal stories that humanize the hosts and provide listeners with a glimpse into their lives.

• Family and Upbringing:

  Josh Smith [28:10]: "Our uncles raised us..."

  They touch upon their familial backgrounds, shedding light on their personal motivations and influences.

• Social Experiences:

  Kevin Clancy [75:30]: "He's the face of the league then?"

  Sharing anecdotes about attending games with family, the hosts reveal their genuine passion for sports and the personal connections they hold to their favorite teams.

7. Conclusion and Future Ventures

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reiterate their ambitions and hint at future projects, leaving listeners anticipating what's next.

Josh Smith [79:26]: "I'm going to start up a fire tips chant..."

Stephen A. Smith [80:56]: "I have nine fingers. I'm still subscribed. It's that easy."

Their commitment to expanding their media presence is evident, promising more engaging and unfiltered content in the future.

Notable Quotes:

• Josh Smith [00:09]: "Just because we're on a predominantly white podcast, we're not going to find ways to give Tom Thibodeau credit."

• Stephen A. Smith [01:24]: "Now, Port, I actually, like... I don't understand what all the hullabaloo was about that night."

• Josh Smith [38:22]: "Look, his teams finish in the top four every year. Why?"

• Josh Smith [61:27]: "I feel like black people are way funnier than white people."

• Josh Smith [43:11]: "I'm starting my own show. And what I want to do is kind of take this immediate thing by storm..."

Final Thoughts

This episode of KFC Radio masterfully blends sports analysis with personal anecdotes and humorous banter, all while hinting at the hosts' broader ambitions beyond the microphone. Josh Smith and Stephen A. Smith bring their unique perspectives to the table, engaging listeners with their candidness and passion for sports and media. Whether you're a die-hard Knicks fan or simply enjoy spirited conversations about sports and culture, this episode offers a rich and entertaining listen.

Transcript

[Kevin Clancy]

Hey, KFC Radio listeners. You can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Josh Smith]

Just because we're on a predominantly white podcast, we're not going to find ways to give Tom Thibodell credit. I'm not doing it, bro. Wait, by the way, I'm not doing it. Even.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's an even match right now. It's three on three.

[Josh Smith]

Let me tell you how. Let me tell you how Tom Thibodeau got us, all right?

[Kevin Clancy]

We got. We got the boy Josh Smith in the building, who. Mr. Nixon 5 himself.

[Josh Smith]

Nixon 5. And appreciate you for, like, labeling me that, because I don't get my credit. I.

[Kevin Clancy]

You've been saying Nixon 5 since.

[Josh Smith]

Since. Just say since exactly. Nixon.

[Kevin Clancy]

Before anything happened. Any wins, any injuries, any. Anything. You've been saying Nixon 5.

[Josh Smith]

That's what I'm saying. I just try to be a prophet. I just try to be right. You know what I'm saying? Who you like? Who. Your team.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, my team. I'm a Knicks fan.

[Josh Smith]

All right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

So he's.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's.

[Josh Smith]

He already spoke. Yeah, we spoke about you before you even got here.

[Kevin Clancy]

I said. I said you're. You're a Celtics fan. You're more hockey football guy, but you are.

[Stephen A. Smith]

If you're asking me who I want to win the NBA championship, it's the Celtics. Do I live and die by them?

[Josh Smith]

No. Right. Okay. Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Now, Port, I actually, like. I. Because I've, like, kind of been following the Tatum injury since it happened. I actually don't understand what all the hullabaloo was about that night.

[Kevin Clancy]

What do you mean?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I mean, Tor's Achilles. He'll be out a year, and then he'll be back, people. Taylor, Achilles all the time.

[Josh Smith]

I mean, he's.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's a bummer this season. It's a bummer. But, like, when people are like, the Celtics franchise is done, why.

[Josh Smith]

I see.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think the only thing is that they. I mean, it doesn't actually affect Tatum because Tatum ain't going anywhere. But they. They.

[Josh Smith]

They're.

[Kevin Clancy]

They gotta. They gotta shake. They have too much money on the books.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's gonna have to change. And when all of a sudden you. You lose a year of your franchise guy, that might be like, all right, let's just blow. Like, we'll blow it up a year early or we'll let this go or that go.

[Josh Smith]

Because.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, like, I don't. I don't. I imagine most of the guys again I don't know anything about basketball, so please correct me if I'm.

[Josh Smith]

Like, I.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Just feel like the guys who are kind of like the hired assassins, like the Porzingis and stuff, like, they'll probably.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, those guys go. And you keep your core. What I think the real thing is is that it's more with, with. With Cleveland, like obviously already getting bounced. They might not be the powerhouse they were looking. Like with Tatum out, Giannis in flux. Like, the east is wide open now.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

So I think if you're looking for Giannis or if you are the Knicks, if you're like, if now is the time to go. You know what I mean?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, I don't even want to get to next season because we, we still.

[Josh Smith]

Exactly.

[Kevin Clancy]

Still got this season.

[Josh Smith]

Why are we talking about the future? Like we ain't in. Right. In the mix of things and we might be the favorite to win it.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right now, now we're getting ahead of ourselves.

[Josh Smith]

You got somebody being better than us like that?

[Kevin Clancy]

No, I like, I like, I like where you see, here's the thing. Are you, Are you a New York sports fan through and through or just the Knicks or what?

[Josh Smith]

Nah, I like the Knicks, Giants, Yankees.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

So I'm, I'm on the other side of things. I'm a. I'm a Mets, jets guy. So my life as a sports fan has never really been so great. So I don't get ahead of myself often. You know, I like to always. I mean, I was just saying last episode. I never expect my teams are ever gonna win. So I don't like to be talking like, we are the best team. No one's better than us and all that. Even though.

[Josh Smith]

So. So as a Giants and a Yankees fan, I kind of know when it's coming. I see, I see when the champions. And we hear. Now we hear that we've arrived at. As the Jalen Brunson led Knicks. And since you don't really watch basketball, we're going to try to compare it to baseball. You watch baseball?

[Kevin Clancy]

I watch baseball.

[Josh Smith]

So this is like Jason Tatum getting hurt is like Aaron Judge getting hurt. Right. So it's like they got to let somebody go because they spend so much money. So now next year you're down the person you got to let go. And Jason Tatum.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, yeah, you're not going to win next year. But like he's like, what, 26?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, I was going to say if.

[Kevin Clancy]

He was older too, like, you're fucked. But he'll be back.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, he'll Be back. And you're like, you'll, you'll have.

[Kevin Clancy]

It is weird how many people are tearing Achilles, though. I feel like Durant, him, Kobe Lillard, Aaron Rodgers. That's a lot of.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, all vaxxed, all vaccinated.

[Kevin Clancy]

Everybody got that jab, bro.

[Josh Smith]

So you watching that basketball, though. I want to ask you a question. If Jayson Tatum decided, like, forget it. I don't like the way my Achilles feel. I'm done right now up to this point. You taking his career or Lukas or Lucas?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, like, I'll take Tatums.

[Josh Smith]

You take Tatums.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Well, NBA champions got the ring, so.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, so, so this is what I, this is what I feel about the rings and stuff like that. I don't really value, I don't put too much value into it because it's circumstantial.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I mean, you're, you're 100, right? I completely agree with that. But like, at the end of the day, when, when you are recounting someone's career, it's gonna be one of the first things you mentioned.

[Kevin Clancy]

And also you ever got. It's circumstantial for like a lot of guys on the team. Not like the guy. I mean, when they went head to head, Luca and, and Tatum, like, they were the guys and Tatum gets it done. You know what I mean? Like, if you're the off the bench, you're, you know, whatever. You're not, you're a role player. I'm not. Yeah, you shouldn't be touting your rings. But when it's like, that's his ring, Jaylen Brown's ring, those are like, they earned that shit, I don't know. Over the guy you're talking about.

[Josh Smith]

Because when it comes to the rings and stuff like that, right, when we, when we, when we focus on the losers, like usually LeBron, he's 4 and 6 in the finals. In the six finals that he lost, it's like I led the entire series and everything.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Smith]

And in the media, they'll talk about me, but you're not going to talk about Booby Gibson who had 10 points, Varaja who had five. And, and I'm killing. And I'm the reason we lost, though.

[Kevin Clancy]

Dude, he shouldn't have even been in those finals.

[Josh Smith]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what I mean? Like, he carried a bunch of bums there and then gets penalized for losing.

[Josh Smith]

His, penalized for losing.

[Kevin Clancy]

I, I, I get what you're talking about. But in that case of those two guys who are like, they went Head to head. One has a ring, one doesn't. They were both the leaders of the team, same era, same everything.

[Josh Smith]

I'm taking Tatum, I don't know, I just feel like Tatum just got placed into the situation where Jalen Brown's there, Kyrie was there, Marcus Smart was there. Then when you don't have Marcus Smart, now you got Drew Holiday. So you swapping all defensive players for all defensive players that could score 20 as well. Then you get pozingas a 7 foot 7, 3 point shooter. So it's like you getting placed in this situation and then Luke is going to the finals with Gafford Lively people that you haven't heard of since, since, since he's left.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So it's like I, I agree with like 100. Like you know, I'm a Boston guy. So like when Brady came in, Brady had Willie McGinnis, Brady had Teddy Bruce.

[Kevin Clancy]

Always had all star squad.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It all is circumstantial. But you got to be the guy who puts it over the top.

[Josh Smith]

I agree. But this, this year, like this NBA is just like so superstar driven and they team up. So it's like if you don't team up and you don't have rings, I don't penalize you. I'm going to what you did individually and I see Luka going seasons averaging 34 points a game. It's just like being number two all time and playoff points per game and stuff like that. Triple doubles, you just can't really question what it is he does. Like I give Luka all the credit in the world they try to say he does.

[Kevin Clancy]

Man, fuck all this Luka talk. What about Jalen Brunson? What about Jalen Brunson? Let's get back on track, bro.

[Josh Smith]

That's his extra, that's his ex teammate. But what I'm saying is Luka being like, oh, he's so out of shape. I want MCAL Bridges to be out of shape. Eat a few burgers. Mitchell Robinson, you go up to the block, you go to Fridays too, you get out of shape. Out of shape. Get you 36 and 10.

[Kevin Clancy]

You can be out of shape all you want.

[Josh Smith]

Let's go eat.

[Kevin Clancy]

Before we, before you came in, we were watching Josh's uncle is Jack in his style. So, so the other day he appeared. So Josh is Stephen A. Smith's nephew and was on the, on his show the other day and he had a towel on under his hat and Stephen A. Was like, get that, get that stupid towel off your head. And then the next appearance he Makes on tv, he's got the towel on his head. So I said, cut the check, man.

[Josh Smith]

Man, it's been happening my whole life. Like, y' all. Y' all getting elite. Y' all getting a late view of what's been going on. Even my neighborhood, my school, I'm always, like, influential, and it's just happening. It doesn't matter who you are, apparently, what level you are. You see what I do. You're gonna start to follow it a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy]

So. So Steve. So Uncle Steve has been jacking your style for years now.

[Josh Smith]

Yes, he tries. I mean, you. You can't pull off some of the things I do because we double. He's double my age, but whatever he can try to figure out, like, oh, let me throw a towel on my head on first take. Yeah, it's my style. You like it.

[Kevin Clancy]

So, I mean, in that regard, I do have to congratulate you on your 100 million dollar contract because you guys are kind of, you know, you earned it. Yep, yep. I know. You know, you. I'm sure you were heavy instruments. Yeah, you guys both worked hard on that. Yeah, for sure. And. And so what, like, you've been making kind of like these, I guess, guest appearances, right? You kind of. You pop on and just spit your. Is that. Was that. How'd that come about? Were you like, did he ask you to do that? Did you just crash the show?

[Josh Smith]

So I'm gonna expose it here, and, you know, people might be mad at me, like, yo, why? You went on his show and talked about it. You brought me on. I'm talking about it.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's right.

[Josh Smith]

You asked the question. So I was headed to the Knicks game. He calls me on some uncle nephew stuff, like, oh, I'm shooting a show. If you just want to come by, it's right in New Jersey. I'm like, I know where the show is at. You want me to come there before the Knick game? I'm coming. And the reason I came is because a water in the garden is $11. So you can imagine a drink. So he has a bar in his studio. So I'm like, I'm gonna go there and get a little saucy before the game. So I'm gonna spend my actual money. And I also indulge in, you know, a little. I think it was 420. Was it 420? Even if it wasn't. Even if it wasn't. I was in the car with the windows up, so that influence was there. Then I got there, so I got the drinks Flowing. And the. The. You know what?

[Kevin Clancy]

You can say it.

[Josh Smith]

I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't. And then, you know what? And then he's like, oh, you. Would you like to get miked up? I'm like, why not? Everything. The rest is history. Like, I'm up there under all types of different influences. And, you know, I believe in freedom of speech anyway, and that frees you a little bit more.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[Josh Smith]

I want the 100 million. So I'm not, I'm not repeating what he said. I don't agree with him.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's why you won't say, you know what?

[Josh Smith]

Right you know what? Yeah. Stay away from that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, no, I think we were discussing. We were discussing some of the differences in black guys and white guys. I feel like. I think, I think you said you need like a. You need like a. A clean cut white guy. I need a funny black guy.

[Josh Smith]

I mean, when I come ahead, it does, it does fit the description of. Yeah, yeah, like exactly what those list around the studio.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

First of all, we was in here and my cameraman pointed out, he's like, yo, the guy that just walked by, I think he's the producer. I'm like, yeah. So what happened? He's like, he doesn't have shoes on. And that's, that's, that's, that's. That's something you would never. So we got guests in the house.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I don't know if you guys saw. I snuck. Yeah, I was like, pass.

[Josh Smith]

What's on your feet?

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, he's barefoot, like, slippers, like some weird. You know, he's pretty stylish. So I thought he was wearing some sort of, like, I had sneakers on. I stepped in a massive puddle. I gotta drive him off. It was pretty funny, though. He was like, you know, doing whatever he does. He's plugging in. We were looking for some drinks, and he's just kind of puttering around. And I was like, you don't have.

[Josh Smith]

Any shoes on, bro.

[Kevin Clancy]

What the hell are you doing?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. I never think to even look at anybody's feet, but he's like, freedom of.

[Kevin Clancy]

Speech, freedom of feet.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Freedom of feet.

[Josh Smith]

Freedom of feet. Let it flow. I'm gonna need another one of these. So this is a drink. This is a drink that what you created is?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes, sir. I mean, so I've been drinking espresso martinis forever, man. Back when it was not popular, everyone called it a girly drink. Everyone said I was gay. Lame, whatever. And all of a sudden, fast forward a decade, and it's like the most popular cocktail in the world. And so I don't know. Have you ever had this before? This one? Pink Whitney. That's another drink that. Another vodka based drink that our hockey podcast did. It's like a lemonade, lemon vodka, like flavored thing. And that blew the fuck up. And so I'm trying to get on that level.

[Josh Smith]

It's funny that you brought hockey up, right? I'm a total novice. But I do have a question. Only I watch hockey. Everybody here watches hockey.

[Kevin Clancy]

This is your guy.

[Josh Smith]

You're the hockey guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

So I just want to know, like, when you see an NBA fight and Then the NBA players are label like, oh, oh, he's out of Draymond Green, for example. Yeah, cool. Draymond Green. He keeps it, you know, he keeps it 80s on the court, but he's so villainized. But then on ESPN they'll show a 12 second hockey fight where the ref is like kind of just like, oh, let's see who gonna win. All right, now break it up. Why is it okay in that and we can't duke it out a little bit?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, it's in the rules.

[Josh Smith]

What's in the rules?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You can fight in hockey, straight up, allowed to.

[Josh Smith]

Here's the deal.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I agree with you, I agree with the essence of what you're saying, but like if someone full on spear tackled someone at mid court, you'd be like, why can't they do it in football? Like, it's in the rules.

[Josh Smith]

So what I'm saying is though, the media is still the media. The media has their rules that they got to go by. So why is one fight okay and the other fights not okay? I don't care about the rules. The media covering it got they rules too. So when the, when the hockey players are fighting and it's on espn, it's like, it's a little cool segment. It's like, oh, shit, they're fighting. When the guys is fighting, it's like, yo, look, he, he needs, he has a problem. Maybe he needs to go to counseling or something like that. What is that, racism?

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I know where you're going.

[Josh Smith]

It's racism. One guy's a white. One guy. I get it. It's obvious. I don't even want to use the word, but like, I just want to know, like, what, what can we do to normalize a little aggression?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Like you got, you got to talk to Adam Silver. You got to legalize the rule. You gotta legalize fighting.

[Kevin Clancy]

I actually think it would be. I think every sport kind of needs that. Like when is getting chippy and you reach like a fever pitch. Like get it out and be done. Like, like back in the day, like when you used to be able to like really like rock somebody with like.

[Josh Smith]

A flag seconds, like little eight seconds, like, right?

[Kevin Clancy]

And then, you know, you, you catch a flagrant, whatever it may be, you get right back on the court. Let's go.

[Josh Smith]

That, that one right there, you ain't really do it right. I almost choked on the ice.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what? You can shake your own one next time.

[Josh Smith]

The shaker broken, cuz ice came through. It's smooth enough that the ladies ain't really gonna make a face at the end of it. I just want to know what the end result is gonna be, how it makes them feel after 2, 3. And then I can really. They'll be feeling like, well, it's fine.

[Stephen A. Smith]

After you finish your third, you gotta do our test driving.

[Josh Smith]

See, see, look. Difference in podcast. Cuz if we were someone else, they'd be like, oh, he's encouraging drunk driving. He's just funny right now.

[Kevin Clancy]

So let me ask you this. Like, you, you and, and, and your uncle are, you know, Obviously partners, basically. 50.

[Josh Smith]

50.

[Kevin Clancy]

So do you kind of like inherit all of his beef? Is it like, like, if you run into LeBron James, what happens right now?

[Josh Smith]

Nothing. You know why? Because players and, and anybody that sees me know that my freedom of speech is so free. You don't want these problems. You don't want these problems. And that's just not, that's not like, that's not like, just too free for them.

[Kevin Clancy]

They know not to.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, it's not just a LeBron thing. That's other podcasters, anything.

[Kevin Clancy]

Who else? Throw some names on it.

[Josh Smith]

Whoever. I'm talking, I. I got shades on, so I was really looking in your eyes. I'm talking to anybody. It's like, if you want a problem, all we doing is talking. That's what podcasting is. So who talks better than me? And I have the freedom to really say what I want. I'm related to him, but I'm not signed to anybody. So watch your mouth because I'm going to respond.

[Kevin Clancy]

Uh, have you discussed what your potential cabinet position would be when he runs for president?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. What kind of role you gonna have?

[Josh Smith]

Vp. And the reason I would be the VP is because everything he is, I'm not. He's like, he'd be the first. Like that other side, the side with Trump and them, they'd be with him. The other side would be with me. Okay, so I don't even know what you would call that. We wouldn't be Democrats, because I guess I would be more on the Democrat side and he would be whatever he likes to be. He says, what does he call it?

[Kevin Clancy]

So you're not putting a label on it. He doesn't like to put a label on it.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, he likes to put a label. Exactly. Labelless. He be labelless. I be Democrat. Because that's what they tell us. They look out for us, supposedly.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, it's like MJ said all those years ago, though. Republicans buy sneakers too.

[Josh Smith]

Know you got mj.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Back in the Day people wanted MJ to say which. Which party he was in. Democrat, Republican, whatever. And Jackson or Jordan. Jordan. And he said, well, Republicans buy sneakers, too. So, like, I'm not trying to piss anybody off, because I got to sell these sneakers to everybody. So you got to keep everybody on the Smith ticket. The Smith. Smith ticket? Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

I mean, we got all sides. Like, with me, I'm the ultimate, like, wild card joker type. Wherever we want to go, I could be the one, because, again, I'm not. I have no alliances.

[Kevin Clancy]

Freedom of speech is too freedom of speech. Did you see Stephen A. Smith on Law and Order?

[Josh Smith]

No.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He made. He made his, I think, his acting debut, or at least his Law and Order debut. He was playing like a sports agent, I think.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Was he on svu?

[Kevin Clancy]

I think so. No, no, no.

[Josh Smith]

It was. It was the Law and Order. Nobody really.

[Kevin Clancy]

I was gonna say, you tell him that, and they killed him quickly. Did I tell him he was.

[Josh Smith]

He was freedom of speech against anybody.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's got to be. So you. You got to have, like, your. Your own show or something coming up. It's got to be called freedom of speech.

[Josh Smith]

Well, why you feel like that? Y. Y' all the ones that boss d make the call for me.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, listen, we've.

[Josh Smith]

We've.

[Kevin Clancy]

We've had some success with, you know, like, outside people coming in and doing, you know, partnering up and whatnot.

[Josh Smith]

Now we talking that song. Let me put my business like that. I was waiting for this conversation to come up because I'm just like. I'm just like. I know I could do this. Why. Why not me?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Last time we had this convo on these couches, Cameron hired me to be his hockey assistant.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And he never called once.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yo, you know, I'll tell you something funny about Cameron. Cameron came in here. This is right. This is before they even started. It is what it is. And they were talking with Barstool, and I. I'm a big fan of that era of hip hop, so, like, I was pushing for it hard. Cam, Mace, whatever. I was like, sign these fucking guys.

[Josh Smith]

Not to cut you off. Can I get a Cameron boss? And she was. That was your favorite. Let me. Let me hear. Cameron Long.

[Kevin Clancy]

My favorite Cameron bar is the computer's Putin.

[Josh Smith]

We. We. We all complain about that as a. As a black culture. So you gotta give me another line.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, no, no, that's fine.

[Josh Smith]

That's his most famous fire. Give me one more. You got to give me one more.

[Kevin Clancy]

Put me on the spot here.

[Josh Smith]

You said that's your favorite?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like I said, that error. I mean, listen, I. I had the Confessions of Fire album with him on the COVID in that.

[Josh Smith]

The. The overalls with the hammer or whatever that went. And what was your favorite track?

[Kevin Clancy]

I was. Was that horse and carriages on there?

[Stephen A. Smith]

All right, Horse and carriages out of here.

[Josh Smith]

Out of here. Yo, listen, Cam, you see me pull.

[Kevin Clancy]

Him out you, man.

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[Kevin Clancy]

But. So they were. Cam came in here full suit, right? Yeah, he was super polite, very gracious, very funny, the whole nine. But that was when we were, like, talking, like, maybe they would sign here. And I think their price tag was a little bit too high for us. Obviously, they went and got the bag, and as soon as they did, never.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Heard from Cam again.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, we were texting, we were talking, he was like, shouting us out. He was giving us love. And then. And then, you know, went a different direction and never again. Which I don't expect anything less. But it was funny.

[Josh Smith]

I mean, I'm not gonna act like, you know, if I come here and me and you have a talk and I'm like, I feel like my worth is like 1.5. I mean, Stephen A got 100 million and I'm always right.

[Kevin Clancy]

Whoa. I thought that. I thought that was a. You guys, you. A wee thing. I feel like you got 100, you got 50 million.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, but I'm.

[Kevin Clancy]

So you don't need 1.5. You might have to pay me.

[Josh Smith]

No, if I'm here with you, we talking 20 minutes a month. I need 1.5.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's 20 minutes a month.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. Break it up in the 10 minute, 2 minute YouTube clips and stuff like that. My clips go crazy.

[Kevin Clancy]

You want 1.5 for that?

[Josh Smith]

1.3.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right.

[Josh Smith]

You make. You making me drinks and stuff like that.

[Kevin Clancy]

I drop a point you up. Yeah. And These are. These are your boys or this is business or what?

[Josh Smith]

Cameraman and my manager over there. So he. He listening real hard. He got his hand on his chin.

[Kevin Clancy]

And he was on the phone. Then he perked up real quick. 1.5. What's my cut?

[Josh Smith]

10 gold on the slippers. You gotta pay for that. I seen that.

[Kevin Clancy]

I saw. So, yeah, you. I mean, he's coming in with the fancy slippers. I got barefoot guys. You guys pay us. I got barefoot producers.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, y' all be sleeping here. They got couches in here an hour early.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Pass out of nightcap on.

[Kevin Clancy]

See, look. Are you. Have you followed barstool at all? Do you know Portnoy?

[Josh Smith]

I'm gonna be honest. No, he's.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's. He's like the founder of this place. And he's a big time Boston guy, big time Celtics guy. And he was. Was talking after game three. He was laughing. He was. I mean, between him, Jay Williams, Felgar and Mazar and Maz were downright disrespectful. You see them?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I mean, that's what they do. Actually. It's usually exclusively against Boston sports teams.

[Kevin Clancy]

But yeah, they were like, the Knicks are garbage. They're a garbage franchise. They always have been. They were yesterday. They were five days ago. They were five months ago. They were 50 years ago. I mean, they were going in. I've never. I don't know. I mean, people really don't like the Knicks. I feel like it's a big time anti Knicks thing. I mean, we're pretty loud, obnoxious. I get that it's a New York.

[Josh Smith]

Thing, but that's what it is. It's not that you don't like the Knicks. You don't like New York.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

And it kind of like translates into the fandom and stuff like that. Because New Yorkers are the Nick fans.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

That's why when you see me at the game a couple days ago, Jalen Brown shooting around. I'm right on his back. I got the Stephen A. Access now it's over.

[Kevin Clancy]

Were you on the wood?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, he. Shoot, he. I'm like, miss as loud as possible right now. He got his earpiece in. But I'm trying, you know, I'm screaming miss in your. In your ear. I can curse that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, bro. Freedom of speech, dude. Mr. Freedom of Speech. You can say whatever you want.

[Josh Smith]

I am Mr. Freedom of Speech. But, you know, you see, I say that and then, you know, I'm the only black guy on the podcast. You know, I want to be draymond Green. Can we get this a little close? I'm starting to feel my drink a little bit. One more, too, but yeah. No.

[Kevin Clancy]

How old are you?

[Josh Smith]

36.

[Kevin Clancy]

36.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. So I've been an adult twice. So it's like bars, man. Yeah, so it's like. It's like, I'm ready. I'm ready. I came on. If I would have. If I would have got this exposure 10 years ago. Yeah. I was gonna say, what you been doing by now? What do you.

[Kevin Clancy]

What you've been doing? What happened in your first adulthood?

[Josh Smith]

Regular people stuff. Like. And that's what it's like with Stephen A. Is like, oh, he don't do shit. What do you mean? I had a regular job.

[Kevin Clancy]

What was your job?

[Josh Smith]

You mean? I was regular, like, you know, hospitals here and there, just with a regular person that didn't go to college. Said, what is.

[Kevin Clancy]

What did you do? He said, hospitals. That's a building, bro. That's not a job.

[Josh Smith]

You just mentioned a building.

[Kevin Clancy]

What are you.

[Josh Smith]

Are you a doctor? Things. Are you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Are you a nurse?

[Josh Smith]

What are you, bro? See, this is what happens when you. When you on the podcast of white people. They act like they don't know. They act like they don't know there's lower tier jobs in the hospital where you can do Smith surgery. Crazy. See?

[Kevin Clancy]

What was your job? Hospitals.

[Josh Smith]

It's 18 occupations in the hospital.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Is that an accurate number?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's just making shit up.

[Josh Smith]

All right, come on. So. So.

[Kevin Clancy]

So when you give me all 18 of them go, no, I'm not gonna.

[Josh Smith]

Give you all 18. I'm gonna do what I want. But when you go to the hospital and you have to use the bathroom, isn't it somebody different that cleans the bathroom from somebody that's bringing you the tray?

[Kevin Clancy]

So you were cleaning the bathrooms?

[Josh Smith]

No, I'm just saying that that's an occupation in the. In the hospital.

[Kevin Clancy]

Sounds like that was your occupation.

[Josh Smith]

No, I wasn't. It wasn't. Why would I have that when I'm related to the guy that's the king of doing what you guys are trying to do?

[Kevin Clancy]

That's right. I mean, he really is, man.

[Josh Smith]

Right? You see? Watch your mouth. I just told you freedom of speech. Ain't nobody gonna say nothing to me and not get a response. Let me move this mic a little closer. I have a. I'm realizing I got to be swift with y' all, bro. He.

[Kevin Clancy]

He is kind of him. Him and a couple others, but really, I believe him. Like, he made athlete money doing you know, talking sports like. Like in this new world, like you, if you're not. It pays to be, you know, good at what he's doing. Almost more so than some. Most of the guys on the court.

[Josh Smith]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, I mean, unless you're the top of the top, it's better to be behind a desk, behind a mic, talking about that than out there playing it.

[Josh Smith]

And you can do it until you're 80, 85, 90. So me being 36, I'm looking at the next 36 years of my life. I'm like, this all I gotta do.

[Kevin Clancy]

How old is he?

[Josh Smith]

How old is he?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

57.

[Kevin Clancy]

57. And he. What he has. What's the rel. Your. Like your. Your father or mother's brother or.

[Josh Smith]

My mother's brother.

[Kevin Clancy]

Mother's brother, yeah.

[Josh Smith]

So I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I was born in 88. Obviously I'm black. So our uncles raised. Our uncles raised us. You know, the fathers just went and did what they had to do.

[Kevin Clancy]

So Stephen is like, that father, what.

[Josh Smith]

They wanted to do, huh?

[Kevin Clancy]

So Stephen A. Is like your father figure, you say?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Where are you from house? Queens.

[Kevin Clancy]

How come you're. You're not a mess fan?

[Josh Smith]

Why would I be a mess fan? No, we originally, my grandfather, my grandmother, they came from the islands and moved to the Bronx, so that's why they're Yankee fans.

[Kevin Clancy]

I was born in the Bronx, but I'm a Mets fan. So we're opposite.

[Josh Smith]

Why are you messing.

[Kevin Clancy]

My grandfather hated the double. The designated hitter. He was like, that's not real baseball.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Josh Smith]

You say he's a designated hitter. Your grandfather.

[Kevin Clancy]

What?

[Josh Smith]

Your grandfather.

[Kevin Clancy]

My grandfather did not like the designated hitter rule in baseball. So he would. He was like, I'm not rooting for an AL team, dude.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's so awesome. Like, I'm only going in.

[Josh Smith]

I'll.

[Kevin Clancy]

And it ruined my goddamn life. Because my grandfather was a stickler for one rule that doesn't even exist anymore, by the way. I mean, I agreed with him. I do think it's a stupid rule, but I would never have, like. I don't know if it was a coin flip at the time. I probably. I don't know, man. He picked a bad team. I mean, you know, they were terrible when they first expanded. And he was like, yep, now, fuck that one rule. I'm gonna ride with them. Ruined generations of our family.

[Josh Smith]

I mean, you. You. You got. You. You got your own kids now, right?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Start your own legacy. Switch over.

[Kevin Clancy]

I thought about that. I really did. I. I've talked about on the podcast many times when they're. They're. They're 9 and almost 9 and 10 now. So that, you know, that's already been decided. But when they were young, Young, I really was thinking to myself, like, I don't know if I'm gonna make them a fan of the Messing Jets.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I would say with the way the Mets are headed right now and the way the Giants have been for, like, the last decade now.

[Josh Smith]

Excuse me.

[Kevin Clancy]

Not exactly.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, you heard me.

[Kevin Clancy]

Giants, one of the worst franchises in football last several years.

[Josh Smith]

You're a Jets fan?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes, sir.

[Josh Smith]

How do you.

[Kevin Clancy]

We're in the same goddamn boat. I'm 40.

[Josh Smith]

40.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Watch your mouth when you're speaking to your elders, man.

[Josh Smith]

I'm trying to do the math. So y' all want to chip win since. Since chips is what we spoke about earlier and that's what y' all like so much. Yes. Have you seen the jets ship?

[Kevin Clancy]

69, 40?

[Josh Smith]

No. Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

Besides, I was born in 85. You ain't even see one even close, dog. I've never seen anything.

[Josh Smith]

Wait, so the Mets, I've never seen a gym. That's one at 85.

[Kevin Clancy]

Six. So I was one. But, like, you know, I don't remember that. So I. I've never seen a championship. I've. I've been to the World Series a couple times. Been to the. The championship with the Knicks, what, once in 99. Right. And the Jets. Nothing. Never.

[Josh Smith]

So me, I'm a Knick fan. And because I was like, really, like, let down, let down for a good two decades, I started to gravitate towards players like, all right, the Knicks is my team.

[Kevin Clancy]

But that's a fancy way of saying you're a fair weather fan.

[Josh Smith]

No, it's not.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's like, oh, I'm a Steph Curry fan.

[Josh Smith]

Because I know you're. You play any ball?

[Kevin Clancy]

When I was.

[Josh Smith]

No. That means no. When they try to cut. When they. When they try to cut. Play.

[Kevin Clancy]

Pick up with the voice at the Y, you play ball.

[Josh Smith]

I'm just saying, if me. Me, you and some other podcasters went. And you was guarding me, I look like one of those guys.

[Kevin Clancy]

Now, you versus Gilly, who wins one.

[Josh Smith]

On one right now, Gilly play a lot. Gilly gonna win that.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right. I like the honesty because he was smoky. I have not seen you play yet. But Gilly. Gilly can hoop, man.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. He said my. I don't like giving that up. So I don't know if Gilly gonna beat me. But the. But the.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, let's extend the offer right now. Challenge Gilly right now, one on one.

[Josh Smith]

Nah, I can't afford to get hurt. I ain't get. I didn't really clear the 50 million. I'm not seeing the last show.

[Kevin Clancy]

You gotta worry about that half.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, I gotta worry about that. Gilly got paid. He'll be here on the cast, sitting on the couch and still doing podcasts. Like, I need to get paid first.

[Kevin Clancy]

But. So you were. So you basically became a bandwagon Fairweather fan because the Knicks were bad. I get it.

[Josh Smith]

Nah, like I said, I was a player. So you just gravitate to people that might look like you on the court.

[Kevin Clancy]

Who do you all time who plays like you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's why I love Scalabrine.

[Josh Smith]

You play like Salibrini. You feel like that.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's the only guy we could play like.

[Josh Smith]

I seen. I was impressed by Scott. I like Scalabini. Like, he be going, yup, I'm doing some shit like that. If I was an NBA player, that wasn't really one of the top ones. And people talk shit online. Meet up with me at the Y. Meet up with me at the Y. I got a membership.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, but that was. That's one of the all time great. When he did it way back and then when he did recently with George was fucking all time, man.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. Nah, you got to do that.

[Kevin Clancy]

But wait, so who. Who would you model your game after?

[Josh Smith]

Let me see who you look like. I'm left handed. I'm left handed. So I'm not. I would say harden, but Harden is like all world. I wouldn't say that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Brunson, Brunson, you out here drawing the foul?

[Josh Smith]

No, Brunson is. I call him Michael Jalen. Brunson, dude, he really is.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, he's starting to get his credit, but I think he's still underrated. Like he is doing literally Jordan type with those fourth quarter numbers and clutch buckets. Like he is that good. I don't think people realize that yet.

[Josh Smith]

They're going to realize it when we eliminate the Celtics tonight and next series. He's not even going to get the credit for beating the paces because everybody's already putting it out there like, oh, the Knicks should beat the paces.

[Kevin Clancy]

Which by the way, is not. I mean, they fucking smoked Cleveland. Like they're. They're playing ball right now. That's not like a cakewalk. They. I hope. I think if they can beat the Celtics, you can beat the Pacers, but it's not like a.

[Josh Smith]

See, I knew that. I knew that the Paces was going to cakewalk over Cleveland. You see, I'm such a basketball. This is the thing. I'm just now getting on. So nobody's going to realize it until a few years in. Everything now just seems like I'm just going against the grain. But Indiana, your point guard is six' five. Donovan Mitchell is six' two. That's your two guard. So Indiana's point guard is so much bigger than your two. It's like that's a matchup problem. Then your big man on Cleveland can't do nothing besides be big men. Like everybody now like the Bam out of body. They're running fast. Break. They shoot a jump shot. Jarrett Allen is the Eastern Conference. Rudy Gobert. People don't make fun of him. I don't know why, but I'm part of the media now, so I'm here. I'm here. He's not like that. And it's being shown. And now Donovan Mitchell got to be the one to take the. We just spoke about it. He's going to average 30 in the series or the series that's over. He averaged 30 and he's eliminated. Now everybody's going to blame him. When you got Jared Allen, Allar, and you got Mobley, the All Star, neither one of them did much.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. We lost to Indiana last year.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was tough. I know. That's why I'm not ready to look past anybody yet, man.

[Josh Smith]

I am. Because you have to look. You got to look into why we lost to Indiana. Randu didn't play. We have Bridges now. We was, we was depending on Mikhail.

[Kevin Clancy]

Bridges drives me kind of crazy, man.

[Josh Smith]

He what?

[Kevin Clancy]

He drives me crazy because he's either like the hero. Like, he'll play. He'll play 48 minutes and like 43 of those are garbage. And then five are like lights out, heroic, unbelievable, game clinching play. And I spend the first half of the game motherfucking him. And then down the stretch he's a hero. Just play a full complete game.

[Josh Smith]

I mean, what are you asking him to do? Like you said, play a full complete game. Yeah. Play a full complete. That's exactly what the fuck he does when Tom thibodeau plays him 48 minutes. So I'm supposed to guard.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's by the way, I'm also getting worried about that as the playoffs go, right.

[Josh Smith]

I'm supposed to guard the other team's best player all game and look like Kevin Durant on offense.

[Kevin Clancy]

True. That's true.

[Josh Smith]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

But he just takes some shots sometimes to drive me crazy.

[Josh Smith]

And I get it.

[Kevin Clancy]

But then, and then he, then he.

[Josh Smith]

Proves all you got to do is be better than Jaylen Brown.

[Kevin Clancy]

All you got to do is be.

[Josh Smith]

Better than Jaylen Brown sometimes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right, right, right. Also, there's something about rooting for a team. I, I felt this a little bit with the Mets last Year in their playoff run where like, they always came back, no lead was too much. Because then, as a fan, and I'm sure as a player, you're like, you know, we're down by 20 in the third. It doesn't matter because the fourth quarter's coming and. And maybe, you know, a lot of people talk about how much Tibs is running these guys into the ground, but maybe they're conditioned and ready to go. Josh Hart just won the minutes crown. Like, they're. They're not running out of gas, at least. Yes.

[Josh Smith]

Because we're on a predominantly white podcast. We're not going to find ways to give Tom Thibodell credit. I'm not doing it, bro. Wait, by the way, I'm not doing it.

[Kevin Clancy]

For the record, it's even. It's an even match right now. It's three on three. This is not predominantly white right now.

[Josh Smith]

Let me tell you how. Let me tell you how Tom Thibodeau got us. Look, his teams finish in the top four every year. Why? I'm going to tell you why. He's playing his best plays always all day.

[Kevin Clancy]

None of that load management.

[Josh Smith]

So the other team is playing. It's making substitutions and like that. So most of the year you're gonna have better nights. But when you had. When your team has to last through the playoffs and every night you playing a good team and they preparing for that, and they're playing 10 players against your six. You lose every year.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

You've never been to the final.

[Kevin Clancy]

But. So are you confident then? Like, I mean, like, we're.

[Josh Smith]

I'm saying we're gonna run into that problem again. I think this year we. It's. It's our year in terms of, like, things just kind of rolling our way. Yannis gets Dame, but Dame gets hurt. All right, man.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what we really needed?

[Josh Smith]

What's that?

[Kevin Clancy]

Is we needed to close this out. And it would have been nice if, like, Cavs, Pacers went seven and get some rest there, because they're gonna. I mean, they're just gonna keep playing and they're gonna run into. They're gonna get tired at some point.

[Josh Smith]

Look, we. We better than Indiana. It's just about is the coach gonna coach? Like, I feel like we were so much better than the Celtics because we was built to actually beat them.

[Kevin Clancy]

Last year we just happened to lose.

[Josh Smith]

Before we got to the Celtics. But when we had og, when we had Randle, when we had Brunson, that team right there was 14:1.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[Josh Smith]

We would have Beat. We would have beat. We built to beat the Celtics. We got wings to stop they wings. Y' all want to step back? Do step back. Threes all game. Y' all gonna be hot at one point. You're not going to be hot at one point.

[Kevin Clancy]

I will say I'm not. I'm not. A lot of people have just, like, counted that the series is over. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

[Josh Smith]

You're not doing what?

[Kevin Clancy]

I, I, I. The Celtics are played pretty well without Jason Tatum this year.

[Josh Smith]

What are you saying? You giving him a chance?

[Kevin Clancy]

I, bro, again, I'm coming from the Mets. Jets side of me, dog.

[Josh Smith]

I can't stand him. I can't stand to have. This series is over. Tonight I'll be in Manhattan. Stay out here. Stay out here.

[Kevin Clancy]

You can say that. I can't say that. I cannot say that, man. By the way, I brought my kids to the game on the game three, and I was like, on Saturday? Yeah. And I. Because it was afternoon game and, like, it's perfect for the kids, but I wanted to show them, like, 7th Avenue blowing up afterwards and be like, this is what happens in New York when the Knicks win. And instead, it was like, my daughter kept looking at me going, the Knicks stink.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I was gonna go to that game with my dad. And I was very happy we didn't, because I was like, that wouldn't even be fun for a Celtics fan.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was tough.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You're down 20 the whole game. They just kind of sitting in a depressed room with 20,000 people.

[Josh Smith]

What year was you going?

[Stephen A. Smith]

86, 88.

[Josh Smith]

88.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm 37.

[Josh Smith]

See, this is how I know this is a white and black thing. Because he said my dad. I'm like, dad threw me off. Like, going to the game with your dad. Anyway, it's your fault we lost. It's your fault.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I thought you were saying, like, you thought I was going to call him father or something.

[Kevin Clancy]

Hanging out with a wife, just having.

[Josh Smith]

A dad in general. Dad in general is waiting. Doing stuff from the 80s. Dad. D word.

[Kevin Clancy]

What's that?

[Josh Smith]

But look, the point is, y' all made us lose game three. I'm outside with the people.

[Kevin Clancy]

Wait, who's y' all? Me, the whites.

[Josh Smith]

You said you went with your kids. You said the whites. You said you went with your kids.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, so?

[Josh Smith]

So I'm. Where we watching the game? Outside.

[Kevin Clancy]

People was really coming, like that block party or whatever. Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

So people really coming with their kids. Weed is legalized in New York. Not that I was Indulgent. But in the area, everybody was smoking. So it'd be somebody like you walking about with his kids.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, I don't do that.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, hey, whole cloud of smoke hit your kid high. Either go in the garden or watch it at home. Cause this ain't the atmosphere for you.

[Kevin Clancy]

I firmly believe. You bring your kids out to these. These. These games, these adult things, like, they're gonna hear some things, they're gonna see some things. That's just how it goes. This guy next to me was everybody on the court, and I was just like, I'm not gonna be like, excuse me, I got my kids. Like, I was him with him. I was like, this guy.

[Josh Smith]

That was game three or game four? Because game four, obviously, is saying it. Okay, okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, no game. Game three, though. You know, hopefully the. The one game that was a clunker. Of course I was, you know, rolled out the carpet for them and everything over tonight, man. I hope so, man. So what. What's. What's. So, like, are you gonna be. Are you gonna. I know we joked about Barcelona, but, like, are you looking to start your own show? Are you looking to. Are you just gonna do things with your uncle? You have your own path or what?

[Josh Smith]

I'm starting my own show. And. And. And what I want to do is kind of take this immediate thing by storm, because it's like a thing of. The media don't get along with the athlete and stuff like that. And it's because of your uncle?

[Kevin Clancy]

No, because of Stephen A. Smith.

[Josh Smith]

Just all of you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Don't throw us in there, by the way.

[Josh Smith]

Anybody. Just when you have. When you have an issue with somebody and it's sports, just keep it sports and it won't go nowhere else. When I'm. When I'm kind of roasting players, I make sure, you know, because I'm a sports gambler. Let's give a perfect example. I don't care about having, like, verbal problems with these people, because you're not gonna do nothing. Bradley Bill came out and said, I don't care about your fucking tickets. The fuck you mean you don't care about our tickets? We're the paying customer one. We watching you reason we're buying your jerseys. You can't score 15 points. It's like you make $28 million a year. Your job is to score. What are you mad at us for? We picking you. Trust me, we're not picking you to score more than you average. We always go lower. 15. Bradley Bill, you averaged 30 before. You're letting us Down.

[Kevin Clancy]

Did you see Draymond talking about the spread the other night?

[Josh Smith]

Oh, what do you say?

[Kevin Clancy]

He was like. They were reading his lips, and it was like, down the stretch. I think the game was out of reach one way or the other. I don't remember what the.

[Josh Smith]

But he said.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, he said, like, it's five and a half. It's five and a half, or whatever it was. And a lot of people were saying, like, he's. He's talking about the spread.

[Josh Smith]

So he was saying, it's five and a half. Was he trying to beat the spread?

[Kevin Clancy]

That's what I. I couldn't. I only saw that one clip, so I didn't. I didn't watch the full thing. So I don't know if he was saying, we got to score or we got to hold him or whatever it may be, but he was saying to people on the court, it's five and a half.

[Josh Smith]

That he's thinking, exactly. I still agree. If you know to spray five and a half, just try to do something about it. And that just shows me that there.

[Kevin Clancy]

Was also a clip. Donovan Mitchell had, like, a wide open layup, and he kind of lolly gagged it. Like, he could have probably dunked it. And he. But he just kind of, like, laid it up like lazy, and somebody blocked it. And he, like, looked at him like, what the fuck, man? And it definitely looked like a little bit like, you knew that was supposed to just go in because of the number or whatever. It definitely looked shady. It was some crazy shit.

[Josh Smith]

You know what? See, I don't pay attention to something. You got my. Send me stuff like that. Send me stuff like that because I'm offended when they do things like that. We put in our livelihoods on the line. Some people. I know, people that put $1,000 on tickets. Why are you playing around, right? Get your 15, 20 points. You know what we betting.

[Kevin Clancy]

Go to work, right?

[Josh Smith]

And that's what I feel like my show is going to be about, because I'm not playing with y' all at all. You're not my friends. I ain't been famous. I don't know. Y' all get your points. You do what you're supposed to do. You average eight rebounds, get six. Because we. We always go under. You always go under a little bit. Meet. Meet your match.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like the undertaker over here.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, I don't trust them at all.

[Kevin Clancy]

Your boy's a. A Mavs fan. What do you think about that? Because that was some getting. Winning the.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, you smoked him.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Mavs fan. You asked him why?

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think so. I, I. No. He told me he's from New York, but he roots for the. For the man.

[Josh Smith]

I still. I've known years. I don't know why. He's a master. He's probably been to Dallas twice. My thing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I was talking to him before. He says, big Steve Nash guy.

[Josh Smith]

Yo, See that? This is wrong. Yeah. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. He ain't saying. He tell you that. No such thing as the big Steve Nash.

[Kevin Clancy]

All of Canada's amazing jersey hung up in my room.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You have his jersey hung up in your room right now.

[Josh Smith]

So at home.

[Stephen A. Smith]

At home.

[Kevin Clancy]

Big Steve Nash fan. That's what the whites do. We have to. We have to latch on to the ones that we got. White chocolate, Steve Nash, all those guys who are white with a little bit of.

[Josh Smith]

All right, so give me. Give me your top five white NBA players all the time.

[Kevin Clancy]

Of all time. Okay, let's do this. I mean, are we counting?

[Josh Smith]

Luca, don't act like y' all gotta think too hard. Ain't too much of y' all.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, wait, wait, wait. Can we get Europeans or. It's gotta be Americans because, like, yoke Europeans is obvious.

[Josh Smith]

Like, no Americans.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay, Americans.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, you just gotta go with, like, the 80s, Celtics. Bird, Larry Bird, McHale. Danny ain't Tommy Hindson.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's just a racist boss.

[Josh Smith]

That's all.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, you gotta go Larry Bird, Jerry West. Jerry West. Stockton or Nash is like, you know, for you guys, what's that? Only white, two mvp. Okay, so then we gotta go with Nash over Stockton, who's a big white. We can't have Dirk. Big American white. Who's a big American white?

[Josh Smith]

Big American white.

[Kevin Clancy]

That sounds like a. A sandwich at McDonald's. Cooking the big American white. For a limited time, only scowl fastest.

[Josh Smith]

Damn. See, I can't come up with a top five.

[Stephen A. Smith]

The Lopez's, are they white?

[Kevin Clancy]

I think they're half right. Or Lopez. I don't know. They're Spanish or some. I don't know. They're not 100.

[Josh Smith]

I'm not mad at it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Who's a big white?

[Josh Smith]

I don't care. I'm just gonna keep my hands up like this. Oh, yeah. Listen.

[Kevin Clancy]

Breaking news. The black guy. Basketball players are gonna beat the white guy.

[Josh Smith]

Don't try to switch it. I'll put it on y' all. All right. Three out here. Y' all couldn't come up with five collectively?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Give me. Give me your top five.

[Kevin Clancy]

Hockey.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, I never. I Led with. I'm a Navi.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, no, I didn't expect you.

[Josh Smith]

Right, right, right.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, we used to do this argument back in the day.

[Josh Smith]

It's.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's kind of dead now, but we used to do football. All white versus all black.

[Josh Smith]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

Because back when we first did this argument was like 10, 15 years ago. You guys really didn't have many quarterbacks. So it was always. It was always. We had the quarterbacks and you had the cornerbacks, and then everything else was kind of like. And receivers, but it was like mostly a mishmash, you know? Now. Now you know Mahomes, Lamar. Like, you got the quarterback.

[Josh Smith]

You got.

[Kevin Clancy]

Us, but we also got Cooper, Dejan. We got some. We got some white corners on the. On the Eagles. We got some white corners who are now, like, lights out in the secondary. So, like, I don't know. Shit's crossing. You guys got the quarterbacks, we got the cornerbacks.

[Josh Smith]

No, I'm trying to.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Modern world. Beautiful.

[Josh Smith]

I'm trying to. I'm trying to think of a sport that y' all just got like that. Because y' all don't.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's not baseball.

[Josh Smith]

Who? Hockey. It's not a sport. A sport is where you use a ball.

[Kevin Clancy]

Lacrosse.

[Josh Smith]

Who?

[Kevin Clancy]

Lacrosse.

[Josh Smith]

Lacrosse. Y' all got that?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

All right, give me your top five. Lacrosse players. Liars. Exactly.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Better than Cumberbatch.

[Josh Smith]

I thought I wouldn't be able to tell you lying. You could say Paul, Billy, whatever.

[Kevin Clancy]

You better actor. I, I also. The thing is, whatever sport you guys decide to play, we just going like. Like, who was it? Jim Brown? Was it? Right. He was like the best lacrosse player.

[Josh Smith]

You know, Jim Brown is.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, no, I'm saying. I'm saying he was the one, I think, who played lacrosse, right? Yeah, he played lacrosse like, 50 years ago, and he was the. He's all American. He's the best player in the country. And then he went to play football and was like, see you later. But it's like, yeah, if you guys.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think his lacrosse skills, though, because he's Native American.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah. I'm like 99% sure.

[Kevin Clancy]

Is that really.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Is that right? Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But, yeah, I feel like, you know, you got. You guys got football in the bag.

[Josh Smith]

Now, so one more of these and I'm. I'mma start up a fire tips chant. Let's go. Oh, being up three, one and all that. Cuz I'm not going to. L. I just feel like this is one thing I wanted to get out there in case he watches y' all, because I know he doesn't watch us tips.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, we'll tag him. We'll call him after this.

[Josh Smith]

The obviousness of starting Mitchie Robinson since they fouling him when we end up in the penalty, like start him the first five minutes of every quarter so that we not being fouled on purpose and taking ourselves out of rhythm. If you found him trying to do a dunk, cool. I'm cool with that. But shooting him, shooting airballs, bro, that's crazy because you're fouling him for no reason and stuff like that. I can't take it. My mental can't take it.

[Kevin Clancy]

We were talking about the other day like this is nothing new. We've seen it with Shaq, we've seen it. Even Tim Duncan wasn't great at the line. There's been hack of this, hack of that. This is crazy though. I mean like he's not even close, dude. It's I, I, I will never understand what's going on there physically or mentally.

[Josh Smith]

As a coach though, you got to protect your plays. First of all, you know he can't shoot free throws. Take him out when we in the penalty.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Have him in there when we're not.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[Josh Smith]

It's mad simple and I don't know what they always over coaching Nashville.

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[Kevin Clancy]

But then also, I mean down the stretch last game he was huge. He had a ton of boards, couple buckets, right. No misses. I don't think he even went to the line.

[Josh Smith]

Right. Because he didn't put him in. We wasn't in the penalties. So from the seven minute mark to the two minute mark you can have him in there comfortably. They're not going to foul you because the minute we get to the penalty we just going to swap you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

And then we know they can hit free throws at that point. We know we can hit free throws at that point. So it's like, why didn't we do that since the first series? Like, we. We smoked Detroit, but we could have smoked him easier because they was fouling him on purpose, too. And it's like, yeah, I'm not.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm not a huge kids guy. But I will say I don't think this has been a great series for Missoula.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I was thinking the same. Really, though.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay. Because I. I don't think he's just done much. I feel like they just haven't made any adjustments. They just keep shooting, and if it goes in, they win, and if it doesn't, they lose. And it's like, okay, you can play that game.

[Josh Smith]

I'm saying. But the way he's coaching this round is going to hurt his next round because Indiana runs. You're playing everybody 45 minutes a game.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, usually I can't tell if you're. I mean, you sound like you're talking against your. Your boys now.

[Josh Smith]

No, I'm talking against the coach. I've been saying, like, whether you make.

[Kevin Clancy]

It or not, it's cuz he's white, though.

[Josh Smith]

No, it's not.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes, it is.

[Josh Smith]

And you know what? It sounds even. It sounds even worse because I'm like, I want his replacement to be Melo. And then. Yeah, and then it sounds even worse when you like, why Melo deserve that job? I'm like, why JJ Reddick deserve his job? It's like, I'm not racist. Y' all are. And I'm calling y' all out on it.

[Kevin Clancy]

What do you. You like. You're a mellow guy.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I feel like Mellows had an interesting. Like, he was. He's so beloved now, but, you know, he was pretty polarizing when he was here as far as, like, Like, I always thought he got treated like a super superstar, and I don't think he was one of those.

[Josh Smith]

You didn't think he was one of those?

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I feel like judging. You know what you said earlier about, like, individual play? I could understand why you would think that. But to me, when you're getting talked about with, like, LeBron James and you're getting, like, the top five pick every year, can't even make the playoffs. That's. There's. There's a disconnect there.

[Josh Smith]

Right?

[Kevin Clancy]

So here we go.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. You know, you see me cooking up in my phone. First of all, you mentioned LeBron. LeBron was somebody who, like, you know, you chase the best team. Melo ran away from that. He left Denver.

[Kevin Clancy]

I do, I do.

[Josh Smith]

To come to New York to bring us back. Yes. Y' all fuck around. And his roster ended up being Langston Galloway. I'm not done. Pablo Priggioni. The 34 year old Spanish rookie. Lance Thomas. Vaughn Baker. And you know who Vaughn Baker was? One of them white players. Y' all ain't name.

[Kevin Clancy]

I know that's.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, he getting all his time on it. Where was Thibodeau then? We need Thibodeau to sit some of these. They should have never been seen the time of day. They should have never been seen the time of day. Shane Larkin.

[Kevin Clancy]

Come on.

[Josh Smith]

Mellow got to deal with that. While bronze playing with Dwyane Wade. Chris Boss. And you leave Chris.

[Kevin Clancy]

No. Yes, I agree. But when LeBron was playing with those bums that you were mentioned earlier, Vera Zhao. And I think his best player was what? Mo. Mo whoever. Like he was taking those guys to the finals. And I'm not saying that LeBron needed to do that because LeBron is in a class of his own. But I'm trying. Like, you should be like the eight seed. You should be. Not the worst team in the league, but whatever. I don't want to talk slanter on Mellow because I'll get. He's now like the king of New York. But it is interesting to watch how he's become like after the fact, so beloved, embraced by New York. I mean, him and JR on the podcast the other day were like, I don't know.

[Josh Smith]

Because when you. When you hear Mello talk about the game, you're like, okay, we know he could play, but he also knows the game. And he's coming from a place of. I could tell Cat, yo, get on the block and do this. Because I've done that before, right? I could tell Cat how to be an All Star because I've been to All Star before. Thibodeau. This Keebler elf over here run after we. 48 minutes. I've been playing 48 minutes. What do you mean run? Sub me out of here. Do your job. Do something.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I mean, we were watching the game again.

[Josh Smith]

That might be coming off like, oh, there you go again. Attacking a white guy. It's just so happening.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, no, yeah, no, it is.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We're very defensive of the white people on this podcast. You know, we were watching the Knicks game the other night. My buddy was like, he just is Rico. Rico just goes, hey, what do you think about Tibbs's hair?

[Kevin Clancy]

It is pretty terrible.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So you asking Me what I think about a bald guy's hair for.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's a guy who needs to just shave it, man. He's got those stringy comb over hair tips.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There's seven of them.

[Josh Smith]

So. So what you feel about Aaron Rodgers? Are you a Jets fan?

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I did not like Aaron Rodgers. I did not. I was happy they moved on from him. I think he's kind of like what I was saying with Mellow, where it was like, no, I shouldn't, I shouldn't make that comparison. But like, a lot of people were like, look at his numbers. By the, like, last year he was good. And it's like, no, no, all those stats didn't matter. We were never in any games. We lost every game. Nothing was, was, you know, important. All. All that was garbage time or blowouts. I think he's checked the out and I think. Where is he? Has he signed anywhere? Is he. Steelers are still like dancing around it. Like, I feel like that's where he's going to end up, but I feel like he is checked out and he's onto his Pat McAfee shit, his political shit, his media shit, whatever.

[Josh Smith]

And not to say that I'm always right, but I always be right because what I said was, I had texted my uncle one Sunday and Roger Stone throwing interceptions and stuff like, this is Green Bay. One of his last years on Green Bay. I'm like, yo, I know that shit, man. Aaron Rodgers is done. He went on ESPN like, oh, my nephew just texted me. I should slap the shit out of him. He's dumb. For the next season, for Aaron Rodgers to come to y' all and get hurt on snap one, snap two. And I'm just like, well, y' all gotta move with the times again, I'm not racist, but y' all gotta move with the times. The Aaron Rodgers, the Daniel Jones, Danny DeVito's and stuff like that. Listen, I was. I almost turned into a Washington, what's their name, Commander's team Now a commander's fan now, like, because Jaden Daniels just played a game the way I feel like, you know, should be playing it should be played.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, he's a Brady guy, obviously, so.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm a Brady guy, but I was a Jaden Daniels guy. I wanted Jay Daniels so bad.

[Kevin Clancy]

There you go.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'd seen him play one game ever, and I was like, that's my. That's the quarterback right there.

[Josh Smith]

And that's all it took for me. I seen him play one game and I'm just like, he was scrambling, you know, how they zoom in. He's smiling. I'm like, he's. He's it.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's it. Yeah, he's the one. So are. Are you, like, Knicks are, like, far and away your biggest team, or, like, the, like, Giants and Yankees matter a lot to you, too?

[Josh Smith]

Nah, the Knicks. Because I'm more. I played ball growing up.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right. You're a Hooper.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You basically, like, almost made it to the league, it sounds like.

[Josh Smith]

Almost made it to the league. Yeah, you can say that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

You say that you should declare for the draft. For the who?

[Kevin Clancy]

For the draft? You know, you could just declare it for the draft. Not saying anyone's gonna pick you, but you can make yourself eligible. Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Why not call Stephen A.

[Kevin Clancy]

And see if he could hook it up.

[Josh Smith]

Maybe.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Maybe I am eligible this year.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I want to declare for the NBA draft.

[Josh Smith]

You?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, me. You can take me. Oh, you already said I was the captain of my high school basketball team.

[Josh Smith]

And you. 40 now. 40 now.

[Kevin Clancy]

We also went 2 and 18 the.

[Josh Smith]

Year that I was captain. That's two decades and a couple years ago, you know that?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

What school you went to?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yikes.

[Kevin Clancy]

My high school or. Yeah, I went to Pelham High School.

[Josh Smith]

Who?

[Kevin Clancy]

Pelham High School. Pelham Memorial. It's like, right? It's like the first suburb outside the Bronx.

[Josh Smith]

See, one of them schools I never heard of. But once again, I ain't racist or anything like that. I just can't relate.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think that's gotta be the name of your show, is I Ain't Racist and you just fucking.

[Josh Smith]

That should be the name of the show. That should be. That should be. That should be. I'm not racist, but.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm not racist, but all these white guys suck.

[Josh Smith]

Only, I think, only at things that we indulge in, like, you know what I'm saying?

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, how about this?

[Josh Smith]

How about this?

[Kevin Clancy]

What do you give us? What do white people have the edge on?

[Josh Smith]

Y' all are funny.

[Kevin Clancy]

Really? I would say the opposite. I think black people are way funnier than white people. I think, like, the average black guy who's just, like, shooting the. Whether it's on, like, Twitter or in real life, busting balls is, like, way funnier than the average white guy.

[Josh Smith]

And you supposed to say that your media train. My thing is three out of four of y' all are funny. Even the ones that, like, you would see, like, I'd be on a train. Like, look at this idiot over there. Not because he's white, I'm not racist. But just, like, y' all just be looking away like, he has no shoes on. It's like, Josh Smith, you're never gonna live that way. He's not living it out. It's like, Josh Smith is here. We about to do an interview with him.

[Kevin Clancy]

Let me take my shoes off.

[Josh Smith]

You want to put some shoes on? Like. But it's just funny. Like, you just was like, no, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna wear shoes. I want to walk through this. I'm ask you guys. You guys want to water anything?

[Kevin Clancy]

How.

[Josh Smith]

What else.

[Kevin Clancy]

What else would you say are the, like, white stereotypes that you think are true?

[Josh Smith]

White stereotypes that I think are true.

[Kevin Clancy]

I feel like they always say that we smell like wet dogs. I don't appreciate that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Tough. Tough day to have it raining outside of me wearing.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm wearing no shoes. No shoes.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I for sure smell like a wet dog right now.

[Josh Smith]

Wow. See what I'm. See what I'm saying?

[Kevin Clancy]

You guys are not helping me here, man.

[Josh Smith]

He said it and not me. That's why I said, make sure this camera stays on me so we don't mix up what I said and what they said. He said they smell like what I.

[Kevin Clancy]

I also feel like. I feel like white people. Some white people can cook. I feel like the joke of, like, unseasoned chicken and white people can't cook is like, that there are people that earn it, but there's also some white people who can rattle in pots and pans.

[Josh Smith]

I don't know. Maybe y' all going to have to show me. It's not like I hang out with y' all.

[Kevin Clancy]

Again, I'm not racist.

[Josh Smith]

I'm not racist, but I don't, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Hang out with you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And I don't know any dinner.

[Josh Smith]

The cat's out the bat. I'm from. I'm from. You asked me where I'm from. I said Hollis, Queens. If one of y' all walk through the neighborhood, everybody's gonna think y' all are a cop. Like, look at that. It's a fed over here. I'm gonna get a phone call like, listen, Mike's outside.

[Kevin Clancy]

So, Hollis, who's your favorite rapper? Who's your favorite rapper of all time?

[Josh Smith]

My favorite. I got a different favorite. The best is Jay Z.

[Kevin Clancy]

Agreed.

[Josh Smith]

But my. My favorite is. Is Nas, though. You know, he's from Queens.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I wasn't sure 50 or NAS. So I asked. I thought you were gonna go. Could go 50. Who?

[Josh Smith]

50.

[Kevin Clancy]

50 Cent? Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Nah, he's not my favorite. He's a legend, though.

[Kevin Clancy]

What do you Think Drake and Kendrick. What'd you think of that whole saga?

[Josh Smith]

Nothing. Kendrick just showed us what he could do because, you know, Kendrick was more. Not that I'm racist, but Kendrick was more, y' all, you know, Kendrick fans. You just like, he got a lot of white fans.

[Kevin Clancy]

Crazy, man.

[Josh Smith]

And I would. I would be like, I just don't get it. And then the whole Drake thing happened.

[Kevin Clancy]

You don't get that? Why white people? Or you don't get.

[Josh Smith]

No, I don't use it. I didn't get the whole Kendrick. People put Kendrick, like, in an up echelon rap. I didn't get it until the battle. Yeah, the very first diss track, I'm like, oh, okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was crazy to watch, though, how much. Like, especially after the super bowl. And like, every video I saw that was pro, Kendrick was like a white lesbian professor from college being like, let me tell you why these lyrics really matter. And I was like, if you told me, you know, however many years ago that Kendrick Lamar's fan base was going to become, you know, like, white women, I would never saw that one coming. Yeah, that was crazy.

[Josh Smith]

And it's like Drake is like the guy that had the culture because we playing his stuff when we having fun, so.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, but that matters, by the way. That matters.

[Josh Smith]

It matters the most.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Like, I think people kind of discounted it, like, well, all he does is write party tracks and it's the same music all the time. And it's like, I don't know, man. For, you know, 15 summers, everybody was playing his and loving his and they can name all his hits and sing all his lyrics and dance all the songs. Like, that's a big part of hip hop. The other side is we got to win the battles. You gotta have lyrics, all that, but you can't discount, you know, what Drake did.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I didn't realize that Kendrick had a lot of white fans.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, so.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So the rap battle was. Was white women professors versus kids at bar mitzvahs.

[Josh Smith]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy]

When you break it down. Yep, yep.

[Josh Smith]

This is one of them white jokes. I did a little. I did a little fake chuckle because I understood it a little bit. He said, bar mitzvah. I kind of know what that is. And I'm like, all right. They speaking another language. I'mma mind my business right here.

[Kevin Clancy]

So.

[Josh Smith]

So.

[Kevin Clancy]

So bar mitzvahs, man, When. When you. When you. You're a young Jewish kid, you have your bar mitzvah, when you're like 13, you become a man, right?

[Josh Smith]

And then at 13, you become a.

[Kevin Clancy]

Man, that's what they, you know, religiously you become a man and then you, you, you go to, you go to temple or whatever, you say some and then you have a big ass party. And then when, when you're Catholic, you get, you have confirmation. Same idea. You come in an adult in the eyes of the, the Lord, whatever, right? I get confirmed. I got like 400 bucks from my family, some savings bonds. All my Jewish friends get their bar mitzvah. You get like 15 grand. You're like 12 years old and all of a sudden you got like 10 bands. Like, here you go. Because your aunt and uncle were just throwing cash at you. And I remember being like, I got to get in on this bar mitzvah somehow, man.

[Josh Smith]

That's where it's at.12. If you want to.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yo, you should convert.

[Josh Smith]

I will.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, convert. Get that bar mitzvah.

[Josh Smith]

You're gonna walk me through the deal? Yeah, he's like telling me to come. Yeah, that's a call. That's a call that y' all gotta clear.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yo, I'm telling you right now, if I was, if I was your 12 year old kid, knowing that you got that 50 million dollar contract in the bag and you know Uncle Steve's gonna come through, I'd be getting bar mitzvahed real fucking quick. Me that yarmul real fast.

[Josh Smith]

Getting that yarmul real quick. Y over the braids.

[Kevin Clancy]

Amari Sty, bro, you could be, you know, black Jew guy.

[Josh Smith]

St is considered like a Jew.

[Kevin Clancy]

Amari. Amari Stoud. Like, I think he like tracked his heritage back to like Israel or some. So he was like, I'm. I think he converted. But he also like somewhat proved that he actually was.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Because of that, he was supposed to be. I don't know. Have you seen Uncut Gems? But he was supposed to be KG's role.

[Josh Smith]

He's supposed to be who?

[Stephen A. Smith]

KG. Uncut Gems. You seen that movie? Yeah, he was. KG was a feeling. It was supposed to be Amari Sotomayor.

[Josh Smith]

Oh. But he didn't do it because of the.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Because, because there's the whole. I, I pass. Can remind me.

[Josh Smith]

Correct. Better.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But like, I think the movie, it, it revolves around Ethiopian Jews and a diamond they found. And I think that's what Amare is.

[Josh Smith]

They starting rumors about you. Mari, I'm gonna do some research.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He couldn't do it, so they just put kg.

[Kevin Clancy]

That makes more sense.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's why he like obsessed with that diamond.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Got it, got it.

[Josh Smith]

Don't, don't be starting rumors about Amari Stod. I'm. I'm gonna do some research. I don't know how good that sound. Remember, Remember, camera right here. Watch me.

[Kevin Clancy]

I actually, I think Stoudemire, I think Amari deserves the most credit. He came to New York when nobody wants to come to New York. Melo kind of did the same thing. But Amari came when we were wanted. LeBron and it was that whole free agency crop that nobody even looked at the Knicks and amari came for 100.

[Josh Smith]

So what we. So what we gave him. Did anybody else offer him that?

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think so, though.

[Josh Smith]

I don't think so. Yeah. And that, that's my thing. I used to give him credit too. Then I thought about it. I said, all right, leaving, still got the money. Leaving Phoenix. Knee problems. 100 million. Sounds like the Knicks back then.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[Josh Smith]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[Josh Smith]

Who?

[Kevin Clancy]

James Dolan? Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

He's minding his business right now.

[Kevin Clancy]

Finally, finally, finally doing his job.

[Josh Smith]

And that's why we. We where we ain't been since 99 after the night and I'm a party. Like it's 99 a night.

[Kevin Clancy]

He really hates barstool and he hate. I found out he. At one point I put on. I put a Fire Dolan T shirt on sale and. And I guess it made its way to him and he found out about it. So he was not very happy with me. But I was. I almost took that as a badge of honor that I was on James Dolan's radar. And he was like, that guy. I'm like, yeah, well, you okay, well.

[Josh Smith]

Well, James, I just met him. I'm only, I'm only A guest. I'm only a guest. And we thinking about locking in on something.

[Kevin Clancy]

I was gonna say that 1.3 just went down to 1.1.

[Josh Smith]

There you go. 900,000.

[Kevin Clancy]

So what? All right, so you're gonna start the show and. And what else? I mean, we got to get you on, like a media tour. We gotta get.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, that's what I'm. That's what I'm gonna do. Soon as the finals is over and we win, I'm gonna go on. On a Nationwide. I'll come back on here, make sure you hear. Because it started with you. Everybody knew we was gonna be Detroit. It's the Celtics that I have a problem with, because it's just like they was just writing us off. Stephen A's this Nick fan. Oh, I got the Celtics maybe sweeping. Really?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, he was. He did not put on killing us, bro. Even with the one time I saw him say something positive, he said, I think the Knicks are going to win. And I cannot give you one basketball reason for it, but I think they're gonna. And I was like, that's it? That's all you got?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And now he's got the towel on his head. He's gonna ride for the city, he.

[Josh Smith]

Gets the 100 million. And that's just. Why?

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, 50. 50.

[Josh Smith]

I'm 50. And I'm like, I'm. I'm a free agent, right? I'm making all these correct picks in the correct games. I'm going, it's entertaining. How much am I really worth? Like, if me and you did a show and the pot was 5 million, according to what's going on right now, how much do you think you would deserve? How much would I deserve?

[Kevin Clancy]

It's a loaded question. How much would I get of the.

[Josh Smith]

5 million according to what's going on? But let me fill you in. According to what's going on, I was about to say. Let me fill you in. Minnesota was about to play the Lakers, right? We had found out that night because, remember, the Western Conference was like, everybody was a game half game apart. We found out Minnesota's playing the Lakers. They picked up Luka. Stephen A. We gonna start with him. But all the people, Dent Perkins and everybody, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, maybe even the Clippers.

[Kevin Clancy]

You were on the.

[Josh Smith]

I'm sitting here saying, you think the Lakers is going to get by Minnesota? We seen what Aunt Edwards did to Kevin Durant last year. You got Paul Pierce coming up. Well, I don't think he going to do that to LeBron. I make sure that I say what I say on the show so I can have the footage of me saying it on them dates.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

And I'm like, so you're telling me.

[Kevin Clancy]

Because you picked the Wolves over the Lakers, I understand. You deserve always right. You're always right.

[Josh Smith]

Always.

[Kevin Clancy]

So you think because you make a couple NBA picks.

[Josh Smith]

Not couple. It's just that I just. Now I'm in front the camera now. This is why I say I'm an adult twice. Stephen, a vouch for you. I'll text him. I'll tell you right now. I'll tell you a story.

[Kevin Clancy]

Why don't you call Uncle Steve right now, get him on the line.

[Josh Smith]

I'll tell you right now. 20, 22, right before the Finals started, I say, yo, you should do a documentary on YouTube just before the podcast and everything. I'm like, you gotta get your stuff separate from ESPN. Do a documentary on YouTube saying that Steph Curry is top 10 if he wins this championship. He answered me, quick draw, same guy. He is on tv. No, because I don't believe that. Get out of my face. Steph Curry beats the Celtics, is so called. One of the best defenses ever. Marcus Smart won defensive player the year. That year, they got Brown, Tatum, White, bunch of defensive players. He comes on first take the day they win. I'm not gonna lie to you. I think Steph Curry might be in the top 10.

[Kevin Clancy]

What the.

[Josh Smith]

He gets the 100 million, yo. And this is what I'm saying. I'm hitting it.

[Kevin Clancy]

I will consider 80. 20 to me. Yeah, you get 20.

[Josh Smith]

All right, so I got a little bit more work to do. Yeah. That's all. And I want you.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's a good answer. Good answer.

[Josh Smith]

And now that we on, now that we own this show right here together, I need you to tell me who's gonna win a championship this year. Because you know who I got and you don't got them.

[Kevin Clancy]

Nick's and five.

[Josh Smith]

No, that's you picking with your heart. Pick with your head. Who you got winning the championship this year?

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know, man.

[Josh Smith]

Exactly. I'll tell you what, your answer don't matter.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, you're talking about winning the championship, bro. We gotta finish this.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I was gonna say, you know how to put in tickets. How do I put a ticket to Celtics win this series?

[Josh Smith]

So, see, all I'm saying is I asked you a question and you said you don't know. That's the media today. Yeah, but I'm coming and I'm stamping you. So I'm looking at you. When I'm talking, because he's making it.

[Kevin Clancy]

You wanted some, right?

[Josh Smith]

Now I'm stamping what I'm saying, you know, X in five. I'll give a. Who we playing?

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I don't know if you're. You sound like you're not too familiar with the other people at barstool, but you got Dave Portnoy, got Dan Katz, got a bunch of people here who are worth. Dave's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, okay? He could not pick a game to save his fucking life.

[Josh Smith]

So what does that mean, entertaining? Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

If you think that picking games, right, is gonna. Is gonna take you to 50. 50 on our 5 million, you are crazy.

[Josh Smith]

Is the camera on him? He doesn't even know about my right picks before I got here. But I'm here, right? So I'm here because I'm entertaining. We already scratched that already. I'm the guy when it comes to that. Now I'm trying to tell y' all I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Along with being entertaining. How much am I worth now? I'm talking to you. I already got his answer. I'm talking to you over there. That this is no shoes. I don't know if the camera's on him. This is the guy that wears no shoes. If it's 5 million and you the producer and you trying to convince me, hey, do a show with KFC. How much of the 5 million do I get?

[Kevin Clancy]

I'll give you 35% if you guess the exact amount of games in Nick's are going to have to go through to win the finals. Oh, okay.

[Josh Smith]

So basically, how many games they gonna beat the.

[Kevin Clancy]

So they're gonna win tonight, you're saying because you said Nixon.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, we're win tonight, that's fine.

[Kevin Clancy]

How many does the Pacers go and then how many does it go against, rather the Wolves or the. Or the Thunder.

[Josh Smith]

And the finals is going to be six. Okay, we're gonna be the paces of off.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay, so five, six, one. So 12 games. So there's 12 games left. So the Knicks will win the championship in 12 more games?

[Josh Smith]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, 35%. If that happens, you get 35%. I'm writing it down right now.

[Josh Smith]

How much?

[Kevin Clancy]

35% of the 5 million.

[Josh Smith]

All right, so y' all just have to make sure that it's 5 million.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know where the 5K.

[Josh Smith]

I got a certain quota I'm trying to reach. Stephen A. Is not even going to accept. Wait, you doing a show? Tons of white Guys, for how much? I got to say, listen, man, they put me in a million dollar bracket. I'm with him.

[Kevin Clancy]

We got. Yeah, listen, how about this? You. You talk to your uncle and secure that money, and you get a whole. You can get the 80. I'll take 20% of Stephen A's money if you land the Stephen A. Money.

[Josh Smith]

I know you don't. First, he done got rid of Max. He done got rid of Skip. I'm gonna bring a new white guy. I got somebody else here now. I think he might be.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's all set with the whites.

[Josh Smith]

He might be. He might be washed out with y' all, but I'm. I'm. I'm new and I got the energy.

[Kevin Clancy]

Let me tell you this much. If he's all set with the white whites, he needs to end this political real quick, because you're not. You're going to have to deal with a whole bunch of white folks if you run for president.

[Josh Smith]

No, do. Those white. Those white folks are like. They're different from y' all. You know, we're here drinking, drinks, cursing, and y' all are in. Y' all are encouraging me. Mention weed. Mention weed. Y. Y' all are not the most political.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We got the cops out.

[Josh Smith]

Y' all are not.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We got them.

[Kevin Clancy]

Bring them in, ladies and gentlemen.

[Josh Smith]

We got them. Exactly. There you go. This seems like a setup, so I'm. I'm just so free that I don't mind walking into this. I can handle this. But y. I can't, you know, pass the drinks.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, so wait, it's going to be Knicks. 12 more games. Knicks over the Pacers and then Knicks over who?

[Josh Smith]

Tim Wolves.

[Kevin Clancy]

Timberwolves.

[Josh Smith]

So you think. And I believe that Jay Br is.

[Kevin Clancy]

Going to run through.

[Josh Smith]

Timberwolves are like the junior Knicks. I said it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Ant does have a knack for, like, beating like he's the King Slayer.

[Josh Smith]

We don't have legends on our team, though. Excuse me. Ant is a legend. Like a legend killer. We all. We all. Huh? Nah, he's. He's in there. He's in there of building his shit. Ant kills. Legends that established are legendary. Okay, LeBron, get up out of here. Kevin Durant, I'm screaming on you. Yeah, And Edwards, like Jalen Brunson is going to be a different animal. We. We just as hungry as he is.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, last question. Who do you think is the face of the league then?

[Josh Smith]

And I was.

[Kevin Clancy]

You think so Even though he doesn't want it, when he's like, I don't want that that's the reason.

[Josh Smith]

He is just like, that's the reason I'm gonna be the face of the media. I don't want to be like y' all. I don't want to be like Stephen A. I don't want to be like nobody. I want to be like me. And when I talk to anybody, I'm gonna always talk how I talk. I will never change. People be like, dming me. Oh, my God. You answered. Of course I answered. I'm gonna curse you out if you deserve it, too. Those are the ones I answer first. I look through the comments, and I'll see somebody. Everybody give me laughs. Laughs, laugh. Oh, he's the greatest thing that ever happened to Steven. And you get one guy. Oh, he's corny. That'd be the guy answer. Watch your mouth, yo. I'll repost this picture and have all my followers making fun of him. I don't care. I'm petty like that. I enjoy it. And that's the fact that it's like, y' all let the right guy in, because I like to play this game.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think you're next, man. I really do. I mean, I feel like I've been doing this a long time, and as soon as I saw you on. On the show and on Social, I was like, I think this guy's. I think this guy's got it. He's probably worth 20% of 5 million.

[Josh Smith]

20. I'm probably worth 27 to 5 million.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, probably. Maybe. We'll see.

[Josh Smith]

That's funny, because when you told me to come on your show, I watch your. I'm like, I could take that over. So you thinking. I'm thinking 20 for you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Just like lacrosse and hockey and all that.

[Josh Smith]

There you go. I'll come in your game and take it over.

[Kevin Clancy]

Jim Brown, my man. All right, so as of right now, it's what follow you on social media. You can catch them.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. So my IG's. Joe Smith. 776. I'm. I'm gonna come out with a country song just for this panel right here, just to prove I'm not racist. I'm gonna come right into y' all music genre and give y' all something to be like, oh, our friend Josh left this with us, and y' all gonna. And y' all gonna play it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You write a country song, I promise you it'll get played, bro.

[Josh Smith]

You.

[Kevin Clancy]

You make a country song, we will debut it, premiere it, host it, the whole nine.

[Josh Smith]

When we went up.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Get in the booth.

[Josh Smith]

Since we making guarantees, the Day after the finals. Okay, Bring me up. Hopefully it's game six in New York.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay.

[Josh Smith]

And I just got to come across the street.

[Kevin Clancy]

I need like a. Like a canyon, Heroes, Knicks parade, country music song.

[Josh Smith]

And I need. Y' all gotta redo this shit. Cause this shit right here, this just looks. This is a little too white for me. All this whiskey and stuff like that. Is it. Y' all gotta deal with them and stuff like that?

[Kevin Clancy]

No, not them anymore.

[Josh Smith]

Y' all can put anything back here.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, Come on.

[Josh Smith]

We gotta get some real. We're gonna say no names, huh?

[Kevin Clancy]

What do you want?

[Josh Smith]

Somebody told me to say cognac so that different cognacs could try to pay me. I'm chasing it back.

[Kevin Clancy]

No specific brand.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, no specific brand. Okay, but cognac, just in case. Kavasi, Henny.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right. All right. You got it, bro. You. You. You make a country song, you land a cognac deal, you can get 20 of 5 million. And you can come in here.

[Josh Smith]

We have to talk about the 20. I told you, my manager is over there scratching his chin. Don't think that this is sweet over here. All right, 50%.

[Kevin Clancy]

My man. Thank you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Thank you very much.

[Kevin Clancy]

Appreciate you, dude.

[Josh Smith]

I appreciate you.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, Big thanks for watching. If you made it through this whole episode, that means you should be subscribed. There's so many of you out there who watch and don't subs subscribe. So make sure you are a KFC radio subscriber. Make sure you get all the content. When it drops, click that button. Now.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I have nine fingers. I'm still subscribed. It's that easy.