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KFC
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KFC
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John
You guys know you guys cool.
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Jackie
Perfect. Cool.
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John
Perfect. Awesome. I thought he was too. I thought he was too. He's all up, bro. I thought you were gonna say awesome. I was so sure he was gonna say awesome.
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KFC
This is a perfect way to start. I thought you were gonna be like, just let you guys know you look awesome.
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John
The gang is back together.
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KFC
We're about to crush.
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John
Just so you know, you look horrific. You look like absolutely beasts. It's my fault. It's not your guy's fault.
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Jackie
Why would you even say that? Right?
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KFC
Could have waited for two hours.
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John
We're not going live, you know Just heads up.
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Jackie
This.
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John
Just a. Heads up. Everybody go. Listen to this. I feel like we've all had, like, a good vibe this morning, and we've all been excited for the show. Just wanted to say before it got started, you're all disgusting. And everything you say, everything. Everything you say won't matter. They're just going to say you look disgusting. Everything you're about to share with the world is useless.
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Jackie
Yeah.
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KFC
Matter of fact, let's not even do this.
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John
Let's just shut it down.
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KFC
We're going to. It's going to be like, you know, like, you know what it says? Like, did not play. Coach's decision. Going to be like, did not record. Too ugly.
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John
Just look at this.
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Marty
John's camera looks pretty good.
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KFC
Just.
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John
Just do the. Just us. All right, all right, fine. Keep me normal. Put them like the Japanese porn dicks. I don't even know.
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KFC
It's so weird. They just don't show dicks in. In Japan.
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John
Yeah.
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KFC
So, like, you see everything else, but it's blurred, pixelated. When it's like the penetration, I guess
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John
they also blur out the vagina. I don't know why I'm like the dick. That's what I really want to say.
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KFC
But I think if it was. I think if it's just a girl, I don't think they do pixelate it.
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Jackie
Really.
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KFC
I don't know. I don't know for sure, but I think it's a dick thing.
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John
I think it's a dick thing, too. Like, this is what the Floyd, by the way.
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KFC
I mean, this always happens. We're just right back into it. I mean, right back into it.
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Jackie
So do they try and conceal. Do they just try and always have, like a mouth or a vagina on it?
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KFC
No, they blur, like, the whole thing.
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John
Like, whack a mole. It can't be a dick jumping on it.
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KFC
It's like you'll just see like, normal dick, normal dick, normal D. It gets to the mouth. Pixelated.
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John
Oh, like, they just.
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KFC
They just don't show it.
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John
Oh, my God.
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Jackie
That's an editing nightmare.
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KFC
Big time.
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John
Big Time thinks about that, technically. Oh, my God.
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KFC
The lighting and the. It is a reunion edition of KFC radio. The Knicks championship has inspired this, but I'm feeling like every few months there'll be something that's like, ah, we like. There's been a lot of moments that people, fans and myself alike were like, oh, that would be a. That would have been a great podcast conversation. Or like, oh, that. I wish we had KFC radio because that's like the only place I could really talk about that thing, you know, but it wasn't a big enough deal to be like, let's get the gang back together. And I think there will be these instances where it's like, we got to talk about that. And obviously what I'm talking about is Terry Crews addiction to porn.
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John
Did you see that?
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KFC
When I saw that, I was like, we, yes, we need to talk about the Knicks winning the championship, but I
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John
gotta talk about Terry Crews ridiculous porn addiction to say for you. Just saying we should absolutely have a list of things. Because I remember, I still vividly remember a Mindy Kaling tweet where she was like, if the office was still going, I wish I could have storylines where Michael dealt with. And it was like 10 things or something like that.
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KFC
Yeah.
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John
And I was like, oh, yeah, that would be awesome.
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KFC
It's like Seinfeld in modern day stuff. Yeah.
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John
Like, I once we did this too. I was thinking, I was like, yeah, we're probably gonna do this at least every six months.
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KFC
So how about this? How about this? We'll have a group chat. You send. You have to have some level of, like, this would have been good enough on the podcast. And when we get to like 10 of those.
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John
Yeah, yeah.
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KFC
So that way it could be six months or it could be a week. But. But so, yeah, some of those things jump out of me that I'm like, you know, yeah, I could make like a one minute man video about this, but it's better within the confines of this ridiculous show. Or you can say and do whatever you want or, you know, whatever.
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Marty
So.
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KFC
But yeah, we'll start with Nick's and then we'll get into the real important stuff with Terry Crews. The Knicks is just something that I, I just genuinely, truly. I'm not just saying this. I just genuinely thought like, this is never gonna happen for me. I felt like a, like an old woman who like desperately wanted to get married. And you just have to be like, yes, it's not in the cards for me. Or like, I'm just not gonna have a family or whatever it is, you know, just like, this is just not going to occur ever. And I've made peace with that.
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John
The first of all, how did it feel? Was it, yeah, congratulations.
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KFC
Everything you expected, it was. It's a really unique one in the sense of. I think we were into like cursed territory. I think you got to get to like 60 years for like a curse to, you know, to give it a name and to like have it be A national storyline. Instead it was just like, oh, the Knicks suck. But I think, you know, 53 years, you don't just win. This season, it's a, it was a culmination of everything. That's actually why it really worked out well for me in the sense of like, I'm not a die hard NBA fan anymore. I don't watch every night. But it, it almost like was okay in a sense because it was. The old Knicks were in the building and, and they were talking about the new celebrity row compared to the old one. And what were you doing the last time they were in the finals and all those things I can do.
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John
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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KFC
Like next year I think it's going to be like, you know, if you're not really watching this team, like, you can't join in on the fun. This was cool because it was like, everyone can join in on the fun whether you were watching or not. Because it was, it was all of the Knicks, it was all of New York City. It was the underdog story, the likable team, the guys who do it the right way, all of that. So that was a very unique experience in that, like, it wasn't just like, we won, it was like, I'm thinking about like my brother's friend who died and I'm thinking about the people who couldn't make it. And my kids are now. My kids were the same age I was when the Knicks first made it to the finals. And I was thinking, like, man, I never thought to myself, oh, this is never gonna happen again.
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John
Yeah. Yeah.
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KFC
So all of that, it felt like a relief and it felt like this culmination. And I knew, I knew I was gonna get emotional after game four, after the tip in game, I was watching OG's press conference or postgame and they were showing pictures of Cat and, you know, his mom died, all those storylines. And I started to tear up a little bit then and I was like, oh, boy, if I'm tearing up game four. And I felt so ridiculous being emotional about it. Like, like, but it's so silly. But it's real. I mean, it's genuine.
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John
You know, it is insane that like, you kind of start laughing.
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KFC
I said, I'm being ridiculous.
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John
This is happening. Yeah. But then you, like, think about it realistically as well and you're like, this is what I've cared about the most in my life. Yes. Like, since I was a kid, this has been the most consistent passion of mine.
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KFC
Right.
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John
Yeah. Shedding a tear is it like, makes a lot of fucking sense like. Yeah. It's caused me so much heartbreak, so much joy. Like. It is, it's just a fact. Yeah.
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KFC
And it's, it's. I'm not saying that it's silly.
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John
It's silly, but it's silly. But it is 100% a decades long relationship you have with this organization. Yeah, man.
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KFC
It's going to affect you emotionally.
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Jackie
Symbolic of everything. Like you're always kind of like you have a mush.
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KFC
Yeah. No, I mean for me specifically, for everybody. It's a big deal, but like it's crazy to say that like your sports teams playing well or not playing well has a massive effect on your life.
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John
I don't even think if it's your. Yes, you definitely live your life here,
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KFC
but I think it's your life everywhere, period.
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Marty
Yeah.
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John
Genuinely think like if you, if that's what you care about.
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Marty
Yeah.
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John
If what you care about is something. If you don't give a fuck about sports, then no, it doesn't affect you.
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KFC
Right.
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John
But like whatever you care about, it affects you long term.
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KFC
It's like I always say about like the, the brain chemistry of it where it's like, you know, when you see some kid who's stressing over their, their math tests, you're like, come on, that ain't real.
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John
Yeah.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice
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KFC
But in their, their brain is like whatever's going on in their brain is saying this is the scariest thing that's ever happened.
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John
Yes. Yeah.
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KFC
So yeah, they're going to be upset or scared. And with the Knicks, it was like I have been telling myself for 40 years that this is what matters.
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John
It matters. Yeah, it matters.
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KFC
And like, you know, I mean, especially any of, any of my teams, any New York fans. I think specifically like my age too. Bit older than me. You, you probably witnessed the Mets championships and remembered them, the Knicks championships in the 70s. Like you probably have a little bit more of, of that in you. Whereas like my age is like nothing but losing for all of our teams. And I think we were like the oldest of the generation that like still saw nothing. So from jump street, you know, Clem especially, he's like a little year, a couple years older than me. He was like my first like real memories are Michael Jordan like just dominated us into Reggie Miller and into this and that. So yeah, it was, it was a big culmination. The game four was almost, that was, that was, I think that's what's going to really be like my memory when I ended up back at Caitlyn's house was that that night Oh, I mean, that. That was straight up like an episode of television. That should be like a scene in a movie. I.
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John
Have you told that anyway?
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KFC
No, I did. I did a video of it, but I wanted to really tell it here because I have, you know, trying to cram. It's like a three minute video stuff. But though the whole thing, this has always been a thing at barstool, but I think as you get, as we've all gotten older and now people have families, it takes on a new life. There's always a feeling of like, I have to do barstool work versus actually enjoying the games.
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John
Yes.
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KFC
And that used to mean, like, going to the game or going out to a bar and I get to do streams and blogging. It takes on a whole new meaning when I was like, I want to have some memories with my kids of this championship. So I'm. But I'm also like, this is work that takes precedence. And so I'm. I'm trying to figure out, like, which games to do at home, which games to do at work. And this kind of broke perfectly where it was like, the Knicks are up two zero the. Or that was game. Was game four. It was game four. Yeah. They're two one. And I'm thinking either we take a three one lead and we're good, or like, shit's really about to hit the fan. Either way, this is not going to be a clincher. So I'm gonna watch with my kids and the local movie theater. Rented out the movie theater and they played the game on the. On the big screen, which is an awesome idea. I've been. I did that with the Mets like, 15 years ago for, like, a regular game. And ever since then, I've been, like, on a crusade to try to make that happen again. And the fact it was like, our local politician made it happen. And I was like, if this is a thing I would watch at a movie theater.
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John
Yeah, all the time, dude. Watching in groups rules. Awesome.
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KFC
And it's not. It's also not a bar. You can bring kids and you're, you know, nice chair, all that. So stars aligned. And I'm thinking me and my kids are about to have, like, ultimate night I will never forget. You know, Shay's gonna be here, Keegan's gonna be here. We're gonna watch this game together, and it's gonna be, like, amazing. And we get there and Shay is like, I'm gonna go sit in the back with my friends. And Keegan's like, wrestling and running around with his friends. And I'm like, yeah, I'm just watching this game by myself in the movie theater. And also. And all the other dads are there.
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John
A bunch of crunch.
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KFC
They did change though.
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KFC
They are not. It's not good. I don't, I, I. You noticed I didn't do the research like you did. All I know is that as I was eating it, I was like, this is not hitting like it used to.
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John
But there also are old recipes out there. I don't get what's happening. Okay, they're not important. Continue, please. But it is important.
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Marty
But.
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KFC
So all. And the other dads are there and they're like, yeah, come sit with us. But I'm like, I'm a psycho. You guys are just like having fun. I'm like freaking out about this. I'm worried about work. So anyway, fourth quarter hits and all the families were worth go home because all these kids are young. It's like 11 o' clock at night. And the parents, moms are like, we're getting the fuck out of here. So it's just us. Shay wants to stay and I'm like, on the fence. One of her friends is with us. So I'm in charge of a kid I don't even own. I got two tired kids and, and it's like a 15 to 20 point lead. And I was like, this might be an epic comeback, but it's probably just going to be a loss. So let me get going, so. And as I'm driving this kid home and taking them back to their mothers, the comeback starts to happen. At the same time, Caitlin is texting me. She's putting her newborn to sleep. And, and, and he's having a tough time. So they've been up all night. It's now like 11 o' clock at night. And she is like, I've been up for hours with this kid. She says, just bring Keegan and Shea home. Have him go right upstairs to Keegan's room. They can sleep in the same room tonight. Just keep him quiet. We can't wait this baby up. Like, cool. We get in, there's about three minutes left, and it's down to like three or four points. And I was like, I ain't going anywhere because I'm trying. I was like, can I get to that bar quick enough? Can I get home quick enough? And I was like, there's no way. There's only a couple minutes left. So I was like, yeah, I know you wanted us to, you know, be quiet for your baby, but we're now Doing a Nick's watch party in your living room. And so me, Shay and Keegan and, and Caitlyn's man, we're watching the game and we're doing like the, like trying to stifle it and But I can tell that we're just, you know, it's a, it's a older house, it's creaky, it's. I was just like we're waking this baby and I eventually start to hear like the footsteps coming down and at this point there's like a min minute left and I'm like I'm about to get kicked out of this house as it's ending. And she would be totally justified. Like, I mean yes, yes, we have a history together. But what this is is basically someone who doesn't live in this house is coming in and ruining bedtime with your newborn and your toddler. Like that. I always say like nothing, nothing takes precedence over the kid's sleeping schedule. And so I was like, that was
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John
such a parent statement. Like, like knowing that we are like sure, we have a history together. Sure. Yeah, yeah, we know each other I guess.
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KFC
But I'm basically like, it would be the same thing as if her neighbor walked in the house. It was like, want to watch the Knicks? Like no, the. I don't get out but so I hear the footsteps coming down. I'm like, I'm in so much trouble. She's got the baby in her hands and he is like this wide eyed and she's like this kid ain't going to sleep so let's do this. And we, and like it was like the last minute of the game. The OG tip happens and we went like nuts and it was probably like the nicest moment all four of us have ever had. I honestly, it's kind of sad to admit it. It was probably like the only time we've ever done something like that. But I was like I did not have that on my bingo card. Like, like in a somehow some way the Knicks winning that game came second to like what I did with the family celebrating that game, you know, which I just did not see coming. So we got to yell and scream and like hug and jump around and,
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John
and even before that isn't like almost like, like trying to hide the excitement fun too?
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KFC
Oh my God.
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John
And watching makes it better.
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KFC
I also witnessed sounds like perverted for some reason.
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John
Having to hide your excitement makes it better, doesn't it?
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KFC
It's bad, it's naughty.
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John
Oh, and then when you get caught, that's the best. So, hey, I'm in the living room coming and.
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KFC
But I did witness, like, the birth of two little, like, sports fans psychos. Because, like, Keegan was like, oh, my God, I'm so nervous, dad. I'm so nervous. And I was like, yeah, I know. This is sick, right? He was like, no, I meant, like, sick.
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John
Like, it's sick in the head, you know?
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KFC
He's like, yeah, what are we doing? I'm like, this is how it goes. And Shay is feeling the same way. And I was like, even when on for the clincher, I FaceTimed with the kids, and I said I didn't want. I was like, I want to be on the phone with you, but I'm still on the stream. So let's. We're just going to stay quiet. You can see me, but, like, let's just not say anything till it's over. And within a couple seconds, Shay goes to me, dad, I got to call you back. Your stream is ahead of ours. I don't want any spoilers.
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John
No way.
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KFC
She hangs up on me. I was like, wow, you really are my kids. Yeah, so they're.
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John
They're.
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KFC
They're.
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John
They got the.
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KFC
You know, the sickness just like I do.
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Jackie
You see that? She's normally more into it than.
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KFC
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, she was. She's all about it. So it had, like, really genuinely great family moments in game four. The phone call at the end, I think I scared them. I was crying so much. He get on FaceTime, was like. And I had to be like, it's.
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John
It's okay.
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KFC
And I saw some people be like, if I ever saw my dad crying like that, like, I would, like, lose respect for him or, like, I would be weirded out. And I was like. I was like, I don't know, maybe
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John
he did, but I don't know what to tell you. Like, this is not like Game of Thrones, dude. That would be so, so funny, like, in your eulogy.
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KFC
But then he cried.
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John
But that time he cried about the Knicks. I never spoke to him again. That. That.
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KFC
But yeah, so then. Then the win happens. And it. It was. That. That was, like, real waterworks because it was just. It feels like you're in it yourself.
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John
Like the.
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KFC
It was very strange, though, that there was so many beatdowns to lead up to it that, like. Like, the baseball watches. I feel like I played a baseball game. I'm like.
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Marty
I finished.
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KFC
I'm, like, sweating. I'm tired. Most of those games were a fucking breeze leading up to the finals. So it was Kind of a strange experience in that I was like, have the playoffs even started? Oh, we're in the finals, you know, but, you know, it's. It's fucked with me a little bit. Like, I was. The Knicks were like, that was my team in the 90s and early 2000s. Like, maybe even more so than the Mets, because I just like the sport better. So, like, getting to go. Getting to get back into that. Into basketball, like, on that level was really fun. But it also really. With me for the Mets and. Well, not the jets, but more the Mets, where I was like, I was really kind of ready to. To not to give up on those teams, but to stop being a psycho about.
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John
Yeah, yeah.
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KFC
And now I'm like, I can't. Because if it happens, I mean, the Knicks, I like, genuinely thought, like, this is.
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John
Yeah, that guy digging for. For diamonds. Meme.
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Jackie
Right.
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John
I'm right. Yeah.
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KFC
I don't want to be that guy turning around. So we'll see. You know how. But, like, I can't even watch baseball now, dude. Like, going back to Mets life, it's like straight Cinderella, but you're still in the clock.
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Jackie
Strikes.
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KFC
No, no, no, no. What are you gonna say? Like, you still get the wild cards? No, no.
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John
Oh, I don't know anything about that. I mean, you still like celebration?
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KFC
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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John
Like, you know, you're not supposed to be back in medicine. Oh, yeah, no.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice
And.
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KFC
And the lockout's coming next year. I may never watch baseball games. I, I, I, I. People are talking about, like, what the Knick's gonna do next year. I'm like, I just. I want a lockout in basketball. I want to just. I don't want to watch sports again. I want that to be the series finale of sports.
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John
Going on the run next year is fun.
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KFC
Yeah, that part.
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John
Now, next year, you get everyone's best shot. You get to go. Everyone. Like, you come. You want to shot at the champ.
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KFC
Yeah, you do that 82 times.
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John
Oh, this was your championship.
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KFC
Every time you lose.
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John
Yeah, this was your NBA championship.
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KFC
There's so many things that, like, I, I would text John, be like, so how do I do this? How do I do that? I mean, uncharted territory.
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John
I don't know how to act.
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KFC
I don't know what to do. Do. I don't know what parades are like
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John
to go on a losing streak. Like, wake me up at the Eastern Conference Finals, dude, come everywhere.
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KFC
I could be one of those guys. I don't even start watching till June,
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John
honestly, from, like, watching from afar. And it was a far. Like, the. Brunson feels real. Like, I. I feel like I'm like, that's what it felt like watching, like, game four, Game five. Like, that's what it felt like watching Brady.
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KFC
Okay.
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John
We were like, you're like, oh, he's just gonna do it when I'm just gonna do it himself.
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KFC
When I made that video about Brunson and Brady and I sent it to you, were you, like, at that point, were you feeling it or were you like, this is.
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John
I had. At that point, I was. I hadn't even seen anything. Okay.
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KFC
So that's a very interesting way to. To, like, bring it all back to barstool. Was. I was on. I. I was on Pick Central with the guys, Sports Central, the guys for the Knicks run. And I was saying, like, I think Brunson is the best. One of the best players in the league. Like, top five type guy, tier one. And. And Clemmer and them were like, well, like, you would trade him for sga, right? And I was like, no, I would not. And. And it was one of those discussions where I was like, you guys are so crazy and so wrong, and they feel the same exact way.
- [21:41]
John
Yeah.
- [21:41]
KFC
And when those kind of conversations happen, like, somebody is colossally wrong, you know? And it really made me think of the Tom Brady conversations we used to have about Andrew Luck, when me and Dan were like, you have to trade. He's younger. He's better. You know, Brady's older. And you guys were like, no fucking way. Obviously, you were right. We were wrong. And I. So I was saying, oh, my God, Brunson is my Brady. But when you say that at that point, a guy who doesn't have any rings and you're talking about a guy who has a million, I was like, you know, maybe this is a reach, but by the end of it, I think he really does have those Brady vibes. There are still people discounting him.
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John
I was. I was definitely looking at it through that lens.
- [22:18]
KFC
Right.
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John
So, like, it made it easier for me to make that jump, probably. But, like, it definitely feels like, again, watching from afar, it feels like that kind of thing. Like, well, this guy does this better. I'm talking about a whole package. I'm talking about a feeling that you can't talk.
- [22:33]
KFC
Yes.
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John
That doesn't show up on paper. I'm talking about, like, what it does to a city, what it does to an organization, what it does to a lock. Tell them, get them different. When you have one of those guys, you feel it. You just feel it, you know, when you have that guy, you know you don't have that guy. People, people use it loosely.
- [22:48]
KFC
They.
- [22:49]
John
Where they like, they call it like he'll start throwing on goat too much. And now they throw around. He's the guy too much. There's like five guys. Yeah. There's not a lot. You know it when you have him on your team. I am not a basketball expert. It felt like it a little bit.
- [23:01]
Jackie
He, he.
- [23:02]
KFC
I mean from the pay cut to the. The leadership off the court, like the, the vibe he gave and then the clutchness. Like the shit he did in the fourth quarter. It's like Michael Jordan and him. Yeah, that's it. So yeah, I'm gonna take that guy and like. Yeah, okay.
- [23:19]
John
Yeah, we were texting about it. Well, Rogers has a better arm. I don't give a. About an arm, dude. I'm talking about something bigger than the way you.
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KFC
You said something like, you know, the way you worded it was really good. Where it's like, my guy does this and your guy does that. But like I'll take the guy who's clutch and does all the other stuff. Like pretty much the same way. You know, you were saying. But it was like.
- [23:40]
John
I'm sure it was this eloquent as it was.
- [23:43]
KFC
It's guy might be a better scorer or this guy might be taller. But when you add it all up, I'll take the guy who's like clutch and intangibles and all that along with the play.
- [23:52]
John
Yeah.
- [23:52]
KFC
And I, I think it's one of those things where you just. People hadn't seen it yet because. Did you watch it all?
- [23:58]
Jackie
Yeah. Yeah.
- [23:59]
KFC
What did you think of like, as I found that non NBA fans diving into this were like, the Knicks are so likable and wemby.
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John
That to me and the basketball world
- [24:09]
KFC
was almost the opposite.
- [24:10]
John
Like as a. Again, as a non basketball guy. Being in the city, it felt to me like being in the city for the 2011 Bruins, which was in my opinion such a clear line of this is the good likable team. These are the villains that like the league has crowned. And they're a bunch of French fucks and they're annoying and they're little pests and like they are incredibly hateable. That to me is what it felt like with the Knicks spurs, but like Bruins, Canucks. But I'm also narcissistic, so I relate everything back to myself.
- [24:45]
Jackie
As like a non New Yorker. I like that it was like I was so clearly bandwagoning and like, the only. I really was like, just when OG did, like, the little tip, whatever that was when I was locked in.
- [24:55]
KFC
If you weren't by then.
- [24:57]
John
But like, last 60 minutes, I was pretty dialed.
- [25:00]
Jackie
I feel like everybody, like, if I was talking to actual Knicks fans, I'd be like, are you annoyed that I'm like, that everyone's so clearly bandwagoning and everyone's like, no, it's like, it's New York. And that's. I felt like, was the vibe of, like, that is what New York is about and made me feel so much prouder to like, live here right now because. And like, I bandwagoned it or I was so much more rooting for them because I was like, wow, they're so inviting. Because that's what the city is all about.
- [25:25]
KFC
Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of. It's very rare that you're like a full ass New Yorker. Like, most people come here, move here, and then adopt it. So there's always an element of that. And I also bandwagon, to me is like, I've always said I want bandwagon fans because that means your fan, your team's doing something worthy of being something
- [25:40]
John
that, like, if, if your team, if an opposing team, that fan base, they will try and use it against you. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happens with good teams, and that's that people get interested.
- [25:49]
KFC
That's the game is like, when you're on the wrong side of it, you make fun of the bandwagon.
- [25:52]
John
Yeah.
- [25:52]
KFC
Even though, you know, it's.
- [25:53]
Marty
It's just the game.
- [25:53]
John
Yeah. Yeah.
- [25:55]
KFC
I, Yeah. I thought there was an element of, like, I, I. By the end of it, I had a lot of. Name as many bad nicks as you can. Fatigue. I was like, we got it, guys.
- [26:04]
John
What was that?
- [26:05]
KFC
It was just a thing that, like, really, it was like a meme almost to be like, this is for Langston Galloway and Chris Knox and you name all the bad players and it's a way to be like, I was watching when they were really bad.
- [26:16]
John
Yeah, yeah.
- [26:16]
KFC
And. And it was good in the beginning. And then by the end of it, it's like down to Mom, Donnie's speech. He, like, lists all these people. And I was like, all right, we get it.
- [26:23]
John
So there were Mom, Donnie's speech going in. Both of them, I thought were perfect. Him and Dolan. Exactly. Such a. I don't need to do that. Like, nine minutes was insane. I thought the 0.4 part was good. I don't need your Vote. You were real. You know what happened? Go next. I was like, what a billionaire cunt. He's awesome.
- [26:53]
KFC
That was the only thing I was a little like. I.
- [26:55]
Jackie
The.
- [26:55]
KFC
The vibes of it just being parade day were awesome. I thought the actual, like, ceremony and was a total.
- [27:02]
Jackie
Did you go?
- [27:03]
KFC
All right, so. Okay, let's talk about that. So I. In like, typical fashion, like, anytime I need to do something big at work, like, everything in my personal life goes to shit always. So I wanted to do the parade. I didn't want to do the parade. I felt a need to do the parade.
- [27:19]
John
The parade. When you texted me about that, I
- [27:21]
KFC
said to John, like, do I have to go to this or not? Like, because it was. It's, you know, it was a logistical night.
- [27:27]
John
I could. Yeah, that would like. That would be something. I'm like.
- [27:30]
KFC
And then I thought I was like,
- [27:31]
Marty
I have to do this.
- [27:32]
KFC
But then I was like, oh, wait a minute. Like, John and those guys were usually blogging during the parades. Like, they don't ever seem to be like, oh, I missed the parade. But I.
- [27:39]
John
But then I think Bruins one's the only one I ever did.
- [27:41]
KFC
Yeah, okay, that's interesting. But I just felt like this really might be a once in a long time thing, and if I'm just going to let, like a crowd and maybe a weather, like, stop me, that's. That's lame.
- [27:51]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [27:52]
KFC
So I was like, fuck it, let's do it. I got a hotel downtown for me. I was going to bring the kids. So I was like, we're going to sleep downtown and we can just like, roll out of bed and we'll be right there. And then I had, like a little family emergency that night, and I couldn't make it into the city. So Clem. Clem took the hotel and I was like, I'll just wake up like, mad early and I'll go. And it ended up like Caitlin was sort of like, you know, it's kind of dangerous with the kids and it's going to, like, ruin the time. And then I was like, all right, I'll just go by myself. And by the time I was even just getting into the city was when they were like, it's shut down. So then Hubs was like, by the way, I'm like, best friends with Hubs now. That's what's so weird about the Knicks is like, you're talking to people you never talk to and. And celebrating people they're going to celebrate with. I'm like, I talked to Hubs every Day. Not that we weren't friends before, but
- [28:40]
John
it's just like, yeah, way more now.
- [28:43]
KFC
Hubs is like, I'm at. We're at White Horse Tavern. Like, just come to the bar. I thought. I didn't know there was two locations. There's two White Horse Taverns, and one is by, like, the meat packing district.
- [28:52]
John
And I said, that's what I know, right?
- [28:54]
KFC
And I thought they were like, let's get away from the mob a little bit and go there. And I was a block from that. Wait, this was on parade day.
- [29:02]
Jackie
Oh.
- [29:03]
KFC
So they were like, we're just gonna go to bar and, like, enjoy the city. And so I was like, oh, my God. This bar's like a foot away from me.
- [29:08]
Marty
Like, perfect.
- [29:08]
KFC
And I. So I park, and that one's all boarded up, like, locked up till later in the afternoon. And there's one, like, next to the parade route. I was like, oh, that makes more sense. So I didn't even. By that point, I was like, I've struck out with the. The hotel. I struck out with the parade itself. Now I struck out on the bar. Three strikes, I'm out and going home.
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- [29:27]
KFC
Like, where are you going? I'm like, back to my fucking house. I had the sign, the McGillicuddy sign. I got a couple pictures of that. So that was like, I. The last thing I probably ever want to do is get in a big crowd of people, like, period. I don't want to go to a bar or a club or anything online or any of that anymore, let alone that craziness. So.
- [29:46]
Jackie
Remember when that guy came in?
- [29:49]
KFC
Oh, I forgot. He came here.
- [29:51]
John
Yeah.
- [29:52]
Jackie
That was the top 10 most uncomfortable.
- [29:54]
KFC
I think I, like, blocked that out as, like, a trauma response to think about it.
- [29:58]
Jackie
We're just in the corner.
- [29:59]
KFC
Like, I was.
- [30:00]
Marty
I was recording, and then I just turned it off.
- [30:03]
KFC
Some joke he tried to me, that was, like, particularly bad.
- [30:05]
Jackie
Remember? It was.
- [30:06]
KFC
It was like he tried to dunk on me, and it was just like.
- [30:08]
Jackie
Yeah, he was. He was sweet. Like, I felt bad. Like, it's a really intimidating setting to come into, too, but, like, he should just leaned into that because he was, like, shaking. And I did appreciate that he was, like, trying. Like, he had to be, like, playing. He's playing into that, but he was just clearly too nervous for it. So he was, like, shaking, being like. And you have never had. You've never won.
- [30:28]
KFC
That is correct. Yes, you're right.
- [30:30]
John
You're not wrong.
- [30:31]
KFC
That's. It is so funny when it becomes, like, A win we and a you and me. It's like we're just watching the team play. Like none of this is real. But it is real. So anyway, that was, that was, you know, the, the day you were at
- [30:42]
John
the Prairie, right, Paz?
- [30:43]
Marty
I was at the parade, yeah. Oh, or no. Hop in. No, Jackie, you're good.
- [30:49]
John
Was it as chaotic as it looked?
- [30:54]
Marty
So I Woke up around 6 and headed towards like where the Canyon of Heroes is. And by 6:30, I was a mile away where you couldn't even see him with binoculars if you wanted to. So then I had a group of 10 with me. I said, let's just go back to my apartment. I get back to my apartment and all the championship buses are like right outside, like my driveway to get in. So we're like, let's just hang out here. I'm sure that because they were there at the Ritz, I believe. I'm sure that they're going to like come up to the. Pick them up at the Ritz. And then at 10 o', clock, Brunson walks out, Hart walks out, Mike Brown. Everyone's doing the who Let the Dogs Out. It was just like we had a. Basically our own private watch party of the parade, which is like more than you could ever ask because it wasn't on any of like the, the maps of the charts. Every driven them obviously on purpose so they could get to their, like.
- [31:34]
KFC
Yeah.
- [31:35]
Marty
But it was, it was incredible that
- [31:37]
KFC
that was a great spot. I, I do. I think I'll probably murder Jack Mack with my bare hands for just like on the day of the parade being like, oh, my apartment's right in the middle of the parade. I didn't even think of that all week. Everyone was like, so what's the play?
- [31:49]
John
What's the move?
- [31:50]
KFC
Do we know anybody with an apartment? Do we know anyone with a rooftop? Jack Mac's like, here's my front door. And like, here's Jalen Brunson. Couldn't have just lobbed a heads up.
- [32:02]
Marty
I was texting Clem. I was like, wherever you are, you got to get to me in five minutes.
- [32:05]
Jackie
Like.
- [32:05]
Marty
But he was like, I got a pretty good spot. Like, I'm gonna just stay.
- [32:07]
KFC
Yeah, he was a little like that. The, the hotel we got was like, right off of Broadway, but it was on like the other side. So like, all the madness was on this side of the street. And it was kind of like just empty over here. He was like, I feel like I'm in like backstage or something. Very strange vibe. But yeah, I Mean that. Like, it was all about if you picked, like, the right spot or lived in the right spot or just got lucky.
- [32:27]
Marty
Just got lucky.
- [32:28]
KFC
Some of those. I mean, the imagery, dude, of all those people. It's crazy. I mean, we've said it. We said it forever. Like, one day, someone will get this done, and they will be an immortal in this city. And it happened. And I would imagine guys like LeBron and Kevin Durant and all them are, like, happy with their decision. They don't really care at the end of the day. But I wonder if there's a part of them, of anybody, that was maybe, like, damn, that could have been me, man. Yeah, because they're really like, everybody has a parade and all that. But I think we can all agree, like, what happened in New York, it was godlike.
- [32:59]
Marty
It was like.
- [32:59]
KFC
Like, you're coming home from war.
- [33:01]
Marty
Immortals were walking amongst us for one day.
- [33:03]
KFC
It was crazy people. And I know there was some incidents, but. And more so during the. During the Games with all the fighting and the riots, and when you add. If you talk about, like, proportionally speaking, it's 0.4. Like, it's a lot of people, and only a few instances.
- [33:18]
John
I was gonna ask about that because I was in Chicago for a dozen last week, and a lot of people were like, what is it? Like, asking me, like, like, yeah, they look like they were from war, right? And I was like, what are you talking about? And they're like, it looks crazy. I was like, what do you. What do you. Like, what are you seeing? I don't know what you're talking about. It's awesome. It was a very cool, unbelievable vibe in the city. I thought it was very positive, even. Like. Like, I live downtown. And, like, when they won, I heard, like, a roar, and I went out to my stoop and, like, people swam in the streets. The streets. Or go crazy and, like, 100 party vibes. Like, I didn't know someone was like, it looks like Gotham City out there. I don't know what. You're there. I don't even know how to combat it, because I don't.
- [33:58]
KFC
I don't know what you're talking about was a game.
- [34:00]
John
Like, do we just have. Because we live in New York, we have a more positive algorithm. Like, why.
- [34:05]
Marty
I think that they're just seeing the worst.
- [34:07]
KFC
Well, I think the Internet is.
- [34:09]
John
But I saw, like. I saw someone rip out a bus stop. I saw, like.
- [34:12]
KFC
You know, it was after one of the games, they were stealing jerseys off of spurs fans. That was bad. There Was one night.
- [34:17]
John
Oh, Glenny was telling me he was down in San Antonio, and he said that was dangerous. He was down in Santo for Game 5, and he was like, State troopers were telling him, go home.
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- [34:25]
John
Because they were like, yeah, yeah. That's what he said. So that. But I didn't feel that here at all. And I was.
- [34:31]
KFC
One night. There was one night where it was bad.
- [34:32]
John
Really.
- [34:33]
KFC
Yeah. But it was one night after the loss.
- [34:34]
Marty
It was after. Yeah.
- [34:35]
KFC
Yes. It was like. It was like we rip out signs and party and, like, and. And break taxis, and when we win, when we lost, it was like, give me that. And remember last year, they threw the garbage at this Pacers fan. Yeah. So it was basically. But here's my take on that, man. And I. People are probably going to say this because I'm like, I am a New Yorker and a Knicks fan, but I really think this about every fan base now. I've said this about Philly all the time. Philly should just embrace it. Like, oh, yeah, this is how it goes. I'm not. I don't condone it. I'm not proud of it. I will never partake in it. I don't think it's funny or cool. But this is how it goes. When you win or lose in a big city, in the championship, there is going to be little riots, there are going to be fights, there's going to be cars broken, flipped over. I don't know. It's like, it's the same thing. Like, when we. We love that Knicks fans, like, took over Philadelphia.
- [35:27]
Jackie
Right?
- [35:27]
Marty
Yeah.
- [35:27]
KFC
Well, you know, I don't know if, like, Philly fans were, like, punching you in the face and stealing your jersey, and it probably wouldn't happen. And I'm not. Again, I don't want that to be the case. But that is. When you talk about, like, we're a sports town, we have a home field advantage. It means, like, you can't with us.
- [35:41]
John
Yeah.
- [35:41]
KFC
And so that inherently has a lot of, like, violence and bad behavior. And I. I just think of it as, like, I don't do that.
- [35:48]
John
Yeah. Yeah.
- [35:49]
KFC
My fan base does. Your fan base does. It'll be bigger and bigger cities. I get all that. I just.
- [35:54]
John
That's.
- [35:54]
KFC
The animals are gonna be there.
- [35:55]
John
It is that. That is a crazy part of a championship is like, you have to start. You're like, why am I defending strangers?
- [36:02]
KFC
Especially in New York. It happens in New York all the time. And all, like, the next day, there was the Puerto Rican Day parade. Yeah, the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Is like, famously, there was incidents like some of the worst the city's ever seen. I was talking to the security guys here who were all ex cops, and I was like, have you ever seen it like this? And he was like, oh, the West Indian Day parade's like. The West Indian Day parade is like this. He goes. He goes. People get murdered at those. What if your drive was fueled with more, like, more protection for more time on the road? Shelby Power Nitro plus provides more protection for longer lasting engines.
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John
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KFC
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- [37:05]
Marty
that the amount of damage that happened, I think we got away with it. I think it's like, if anything, by
- [37:09]
KFC
the end, by the end. Setting it all up of like, we had two straight weeks of like, thousands of people in the streets every night. And there's, you know, a few instances. Yeah, yeah, dude.
- [37:18]
John
You see those slow pans around the Avengers after a fight? That was a win. Yeah. Every bird, every building is full of rubble. About 10 million. Nice. We did good. Like, I think, I think that's that Brunson and Cat, like,
- [37:38]
KFC
assemble and, and I, I don't want to go too much sports here. We'll move on a second. But I, I, I, I cannot. I don't have the words to describe what I think of Jalen Brunson. I think he is one of the greatest humans alive.
- [37:54]
John
Yeah.
- [37:54]
KFC
Not one of the best point guards, not one of the best athletes. Like, he is a superb human. And I think on the court, he is the most purest of sports. He is the tiny guy in the NBA. He is the underdog. It's David versus Goliath. It's all of that. And then off the court, he is the captain, the leader. I mean, they were so maniacally focused. Nobody was celebrating. No, like, they all bought into this one mantra. And I really think it came from Brunson and I. The fact that he, I think he's the most underrated superstar in, like, all of sports. I think he should be talked about as up there with Brady. He needs more championships, but his style should be like, that guy's like Brady. And instead he's discredited, discounted people talk. I don't know how that happened. I don't know. I don't know where his PR team was on that one. His PR team all over. But, like, I just. If you're. I feel like it's an NBA thing. Like, the basketball takes of the last few years were about him. I hope those people feel so goddamn foolish and so ashamed of those. Some of those takes.
- [39:02]
John
I. I could not possibly agree more with you.
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- [39:05]
John
My number one response would be, hope he never retires. Yeah. Yep. But my second response would be like, that doesn't stop.
- [39:14]
KFC
Yeah.
- [39:14]
John
It only takes five championships.
- [39:16]
KFC
I know.
- [39:16]
John
Are you fucking kidding me?
- [39:17]
KFC
You would take someone else?
- [39:19]
John
There's someone else. Like, you start going crazy. It doesn't stop. It never.
- [39:25]
KFC
After. After a week of dealing with one with just Clemmer, I was like, this is insane. And I texted John be like, how did you do this for. Forget about. I did it for a week. Forget about doing it for a season. John did it for 10 years of people saying, this guy stinks when he
- [39:41]
John
had the most championships ever.
- [39:45]
KFC
I. I just don't get it.
- [39:47]
John
Like, yeah, well, it's because of his coat. The coach. You like the coach doing everything. I'm, like, snapping right back in. It's, like, unhealthy. I haven't really gotten much of it,
- [40:00]
Marty
but I can't imagine someone saying something bad about Brunson to me. I would lose my mind.
- [40:04]
KFC
I think I would get violent. I can understand those. Those violent. Those rides in the streets was because some San Antonio fan said, jalen Brunson's not good.
- [40:12]
John
Those people deserve to die. When Wemby did that thing where he
- [40:15]
Marty
missed him, but he tried to step on him, I watched that clip the next day 45 times with so much anger. I wanted to hurt someone because just watching him try to hurt my fucking boy, he didn't.
- [40:25]
John
He didn't even do it.
- [40:26]
Marty
But I was that upset just watching it.
- [40:28]
KFC
Don't fuck with my family.
- [40:31]
John
It's also. You realize it's why this whole industry works.
- [40:35]
KFC
Yes.
- [40:36]
John
Is because someone who doesn't care will get on the microphone and go like, ab Brunson. I really think he's good. Like, they don't give a shit. They don't even know that they said it.
- [40:44]
KFC
You'll fucking.
- [40:45]
John
I want to see everything that person's ever said, everything stupid they've ever said.
- [40:48]
KFC
I mean, the amount of, like. Do you know how much Becky Hammond has, like, been in my brain? Like, I've never thought about that woman in my life. And now I'M like, is this the day she apologizes? I need blood.
- [40:59]
John
I want my pound of flesh. Becky Rebecca Hammond.
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Marty
I love that it stuck with him, too.
- [41:06]
KFC
You think that they don't see that? They see it and start him to register it. And I thought for sure, yeah, I thought for sure. Brunson's response was going to be like, hey, listen, analysts, we. I'm a podcaster myself now. I know we all give takes. You know, when you talk into a mic that many, that often, you're going to get predictions wrong. I thought it'd be one of those. And instead, that whole, like, I didn't. I didn't respond to her then. I'm not responding to her now. I was like, oh, the Brunson family, they were. Becky Hammond under their breath, like, they hate that. I can't imagine. I mean, that's from his, like, family to the team, I think. I think. I mean, Brunson, he refused to take pictures with the trophy. Like, all those little things, and everybody bought into it.
- [41:47]
John
What, the Eastern Conference?
- [41:49]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
No, the.
- [41:50]
KFC
For the championship. Like, they have packages where it's like, Brunson with the trophy.
- [41:54]
John
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [41:55]
KFC
And he wouldn't take any pictures with it, didn't touch it. None of that.
- [41:58]
John
Hockey guy. Yes, yes.
- [42:00]
KFC
I just think he's. And. And, you know, it's interesting. So my first thought was about LeBron and KD and all them, how they did the super team thing and Brunson didn't.
- [42:10]
Jackie
And.
- [42:11]
KFC
And I was thinking to myself, especially, also the pay cut. Like, he was willing to take a pay cut. I'm sure the rest of the superstars around the league don't like that when they're like, come on.
- [42:18]
John
Yes.
- [42:18]
KFC
Bad. And I noticed, like, not one of those guys tweeted or posted like, yo, Brunson, you know, and that usually happens, like, when Steph's going off. You'll see, like, Twitter is like, yo, that boy's different, and all that. There was not. There was no love loss for Jalen Brunson. I don't know if it's a thing or not a thing, but it was enough that I was like, it just
- [42:38]
Marty
feels like he's never even associated himself with any of those or they've never associated.
- [42:42]
KFC
I was. I don't think he's ever invited to, like, the cool kids. He's not. I mean, he is now, but I. I think I thought I saw somebody say that. Brunson himself said, like, I even surprised myself, like, I didn't know I had it like this Sort of thing, which is pretty cool.
- [42:59]
John
Yeah. Yeah.
- [43:00]
KFC
I saw a video the other day of this was. It was on Instagram with some, like, psychologist, doctor, whatever, and they were saying, like, they were kind of, like, biologically physiologically quantifying, like, the clutch gene. And she was saying, like, I have clients. And the way they describe it to me is that, like, in the final seconds, like, the. Everything really does slow down for them, and they just stay calm, and they just see the. The path, whatever it is. And, you know, she was like, I think some certain people, like, have that. You know, I've heard it described.
- [43:27]
John
Like, crystallizer for me is like, everyone else doesn't. It's not even something you have. It's something everyone else doesn't have.
- [43:33]
KFC
So they're all panicking and you're staying.
- [43:34]
John
Exactly. It's just a regular game for you still, Right? Everyone else is panicking. It's just you're staying.
- [43:39]
KFC
And I wonder how that feels because I get nervous, like, it's the final shot for the beer pong, and I'm
- [43:46]
John
like, I need to hit this for rebuttal.
- [43:50]
KFC
Slow pitch softball.
- [43:51]
John
Like, oh, God.
- [43:52]
KFC
So I can't even imagine what that's like. But I also wonder what. How. How crazy is if, like, if you don't even know that about yourself and you get to the finals and you're like, I'm really comfortable right now. Oh, I am.
- [44:03]
John
Yeah. What do I care about what is gonna do? Son of a. Brunson was depressed about it. He goes home and cuts. My whole life has been for this moment to feel something.
- [44:16]
KFC
I just want to feel something.
- [44:17]
John
Something.
- [44:19]
KFC
And then on the other side of things, man, I. I don't think I can even come up with a good comp for how. How much damage Wy did in one week to his reputation.
- [44:29]
John
Oh.
- [44:29]
KFC
I mean, like, the only thing I. I came up with was when LeBron did the Decision, he kind of went from, like, the hero, and, like, everyone was like, oh, man, LeBron is dragging all these bums, and he's, like, the star to, like, that guy. But as f. I. I. I can't think of, like, anybody else who went from, like, the golden child, the next big thing and beloved by everyone to, like, that guy.
- [44:50]
Marty
Yeah. A performative.
- [44:52]
John
Yeah.
- [44:52]
Marty
He's just like. He's just an.
- [44:54]
KFC
It took me, like, one. I watched Wemby from afar. I read all the article. I didn't read all. I saw the highlights. I would hear the storylines, and I was like, all right. Yeah. He's apparently that Dude. And then within, like, one quarter, I was like, oh, this guy.
- [45:07]
John
That's what a series does is. Yeah. It shows, like, who people really are. Watching five games in a row, you're like, never mind. I. Hey, I was the same way. Where I was like, I don't really care much about Wembley. I remember you were even asking about, like, the him drawn, you know, this is crazy. I was like, I don't know. I'm kind of cool. To me. No, that.
- [45:25]
KFC
All of it.
- [45:25]
John
Walking.
- [45:26]
KFC
Walking barefoot on the floor to feel it.
- [45:28]
John
The drawing. Yeah, I. I read about that more.
- [45:31]
KFC
Did you read the Athletic article?
- [45:33]
John
Well, I just read that it was Edwin Booth, and then this I learned the other day, because I went to a play and I saw the Booth Theater, which is named after Edwin Booth, who is the brother of John Wilkes Booth. So we have a Booth theater in New York City for a guy who murdered a president. The president of the theater at a theater. That's crazy. I'm glad. So I've said that to a lot of people, and no one seems to care. I'm like, no, this is insane.
- [45:59]
KFC
People just like, you know, John leaves brunch, and everyone's like, that was pretty weird. He's, like, really upset about that theater.
- [46:05]
John
John Wilkes brother Edwin, they got a theater for the guy.
- [46:10]
KFC
The article and the Athletic.
- [46:12]
John
Now, Iowa Debris is performing at it nightly. Her and Don Cheadle.
- [46:17]
KFC
The article said, as. As Edwin Booth's brother will tell you, your legacy can be defined by one shot, whether you make it or miss it.
- [46:26]
John
And I was like, shut the up.
- [46:29]
KFC
Why are we comparing Wemby to John?
- [46:31]
John
Welcome.
- [46:33]
KFC
They just can't help themselves. And Michael Redd, do you know who he is?
- [46:36]
John
A former comedian?
- [46:37]
KFC
No, no. He's a basketball player. He.
- [46:40]
John
Who's the Red? Chris Red.
- [46:41]
KFC
Okay. When you said yes, really close.
- [46:43]
Marty
I'm surprised.
- [46:43]
KFC
You know, he was. He played for Ohio State, and he played for the Bucks. Wait, sharpshooter. Like, what?
- [46:49]
John
Chris Red went to Iowa State. I watched him ring the bell at the game. Right? This is the guy. We've interviewed him. He was on snl. Something Red.
- [46:57]
KFC
That's even weirder. Is he white or black?
- [46:59]
John
Black.
- [47:00]
KFC
Is he related to Michael Redd? He.
- [47:04]
Jackie
He.
- [47:05]
KFC
He's kind of been trying. I think he's trying to get, like, sports media. He joined, like, social media. Very smart. Like, seems like a very smart athlete. And he said, I. I think that this might be a result of, you know, guys like Jokic, like, don't care about basketball. Guys like LeBron kind of just give you canned responses. And now the media has this freak who is giving you the monks and the insight and the talking and, and he was saying that, like, the media latched on to him because they were like, we need someone like this. So they start fluffing him and writing everything. And, and he was like. I don't know if this is by design or just by, you know, by. It happened naturally, but I think that's what's happening here is that's why he's getting. He's basically getting a good edit. Yeah.
- [47:42]
John
From the media.
- [47:43]
KFC
But then the fans who aren't don't have an incentive. They don't care if Wemby's this way or not. The media wants him to be this way because then they can write about it forever. The fans are like, whatever. It is what it is. So I think as soon as fans saw it, they were like, fuck all. I mean, just the, the quintessential, like, spoiled boy. Yeah, right. French.
- [48:02]
Marty
Exactly.
- [48:03]
KFC
I hate to be, like, reductive like that.
- [48:05]
John
On the other side now, the French you can be reductive about.
- [48:08]
Marty
Still just the most likable team of all time. As an outsider, like, like you have. Don't really watch as much sports. Like, can you see how likable this team is? Or is it my blinded by, like.
- [48:18]
John
No, there's. It was, it was what made it, like, an easy team to root for too, because, like, I've been in that situation a million times where I'm like, how can you not see that this team is likable? Like, you're blinded by hate. It's a likable team. This is the kind of team you root for. And this 100%.
- [48:33]
KFC
I mean, from top to, like, the whole roster.
- [48:36]
John
Alvarado.
- [48:37]
Marty
When I saw Alvarado Street, I, I, I played against Alvarado when I was
- [48:40]
KFC
younger to watch someone 5 foot 8, right.
- [48:44]
John
What were your fights against him?
- [48:46]
Marty
Oh, I got just destroyed.
- [48:48]
KFC
I, I was like. He was older than me, and I,
- [48:50]
Marty
like, subbed into her like, a varsity game. And, like, I couldn't keep him in front of me whatsoever. Quick, quick, sub out.
- [48:55]
John
I was younger.
- [48:56]
KFC
Somebody here, one of the security guards in that game. I feel like Alvarado.
- [49:01]
Marty
Yeah.
- [49:02]
KFC
That fourth quarter. Yo. Brunson becomes like, this immortal cat, is, like, vindicated like this. I'm the guy you all thought I was when you drafted me number one. All that shit's true. But the real winners are, like, the Landry Shammons, who now are like a hero in New York and go get a real contract. Alvarado will. Now, he'll be. He'll work for MSG one day.
- [49:22]
John
He'll.
- [49:22]
KFC
You know what I mean? Like, you now have a whole life.
- [49:24]
Marty
Yeah.
- [49:25]
KFC
Being a New Yorker who wins in New York, that guy's like the big winner, you know, like, he takes away the.
- [49:29]
John
Those are the interesting guys to follow, too.
- [49:30]
KFC
Yeah.
- [49:31]
John
What they do, because like you said, some guys will go get a big contract that they probably don't deserve.
- [49:35]
KFC
Right?
- [49:35]
John
Not.
- [49:36]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Not.
- [49:36]
John
They don't deserve that.
- [49:36]
KFC
They have earned it.
- [49:37]
John
They have 100% improve, but they're not going to be that.
- [49:40]
KFC
Contract.
- [49:40]
Jackie
Contract.
- [49:40]
KFC
Correct.
- [49:41]
John
And then you have guys like that who. It's like, they probably stick around and be like, I'll hang around for like five, 10 years, be just a legend.
- [49:47]
KFC
If Jose Alvarado has an option to stay with the Knicks for, like, the minimum or make like 1.5 million a year over here, stick around because you
- [49:56]
John
know what that means for your life.
- [49:57]
KFC
Absolutely.
- [49:57]
Marty
Absolutely.
- [49:58]
KFC
I mean that.
- [49:58]
John
I think Edelman said something like that once. I think he said to Bill Simmons where it was like, why the. Would I go play for, like, the Vikings? It was. It was San Francisco. He had, like, a deal in San Fran where he's like, I know, like, I'm gonna get all these deals in Boston because I'm the guy in Boston.
- [50:13]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yeah.
- [50:13]
John
And like, all these local ads and Brady will help me with ads. Like, it completely being like that kind of guy. And Edelman became like an all star
- [50:20]
KFC
in New York, just being like, I'm the New York guy in New York. Like, he can do all this now. He can do food content, he can do New York content, all that. His whole life is different now. He is the man.
- [50:30]
Marty
He's the man.
- [50:31]
KFC
Grabbing Wemby by the leg and all that.
- [50:33]
Marty
Like, they're all the best with the whole crowd after. And then later that night, he's playing dominoes back at.
- [50:41]
John
He's just the coolest guy in the world.
- [50:42]
Marty
The whole team is likable.
- [50:43]
KFC
And a shout out to my boy Tyler Kick. What. What a heater he's on. He.
- [50:46]
Marty
He's.
- [50:47]
KFC
He's living it up. That's another one. I hope he sticks around.
- [50:49]
John
So funny. That cop tried to.
- [50:52]
KFC
I mean, couldn't. I said, take a look at him. Other than being, like, athletic, like, in shape. You're telling me that doesn't look like every guy running around the streets going, viva.
- [51:02]
John
No, I don't like. Look, I get.
- [51:04]
KFC
Get it.
- [51:04]
John
Yeah.
- [51:05]
KFC
I swear I'm on The team. So yeah, I mean, anyway, at the end of all of it, it's like they really. I remember thinking like, I can't believe I'm like the only person at barstool has never won a championship. I can't believe this isn't going to happen for me. And finally did. Feels good. I will say I wish I was younger.
- [51:22]
John
Yeah.
- [51:23]
KFC
Even at my age I'm not like old but like I didn't go out into the chaos and into the mess and I like celebrated it, but I celebrated with my kids and I kind of was just like, it's more of a relief it happened as opposed to like, I don't know, if I was like 25, still drinking, still partying, I think this would have been even crazier.
- [51:41]
John
Yeah.
- [51:41]
KFC
So I, I always, I'm like, you had it as a kid, as a teenager, as a 20 something, as an adult. You've had every different variation of it. Which one do you think is the best age wise? Like forget about. Yeah, like his age.
- [51:53]
Marty
It was just a full. Yeah, it was just a full time job for a month and a half. So we would, everyone, we would rather it would be a different person's job every single time they were playing. Someone would leave work at 4:30, go to a bar. You'd stay in that spot from 4 till 11:30. The games were getting over. So there were days that it was like seven hour shifts to watch and
- [52:10]
John
then like you couldn't.
- [52:11]
Marty
I mean we had to have a spot. As soon as the game ended, we won because we never wanted to drink. So we won. Next day you have to. Next morning you have to call like five or six spots. I mean it was a full time job. Staying late to make sure you could watch the game the next day. Getting in early to make every single person I knew had a full time job for the last month and a half. And it was just like. And I, the, the bandwagon is I like, I accepted them. Yes, we all accepted because how like how special is it for people to care so much about something they've never even watched their entire lives? And I'm watching with them and they're living and dying by every single play and they don't even know who these guys are.
- [52:41]
John
Like it was just.
- [52:42]
Marty
And then obviously after the win, like how I've never seen anything like that. I was in Fi Di so it wasn't as crazy as it was up in midtown. But like the what was in the air. Like people talk about and you can get poetic about It. But I had never felt anything like that in my entire. Hugging strangers, people in tears. Just the energy that was in the air. I mean, it is. It can't be. It can't be dramatized any more than the way I'm talking about it right now.
- [53:04]
KFC
The, like, people were worried about trying to get into the game and all that. Like, I think that the people who put the projector on the side of the building, that to me is awesome.
- [53:12]
John
Yeah.
- [53:13]
KFC
The watch parties in the parks, all those things are, I think, almost better than being at the game. It's kind of crazy.
- [53:18]
John
And they're gonna keep happening. Like, I encourage someone to go to a USA watch party one. Yeah, they're awesome.
- [53:23]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yo.
- [53:23]
KFC
And then the fact that the World cup just rolls right into this.
- [53:27]
John
I. By the way, I told them I came in here one day and they were both like, exhausted and they're like, this is hard, like, having to do this. And I was like, how the you think you end up with pancreatitis, bro? Yeah, like a decade.
- [53:39]
KFC
You know what was tough for. I remember Dave's talking about that going like, ah. When you would have Celtics Bruins the same season and it would just be like every other night.
- [53:50]
John
Literally every single night.
- [53:51]
KFC
You never stop that.
- [53:53]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
By the.
- [53:53]
KFC
I was getting home.
- [53:54]
John
But what we. What I realized in. In watching the New York stuff and you know, kind of being around it. Well, the kind of bummer of Boston, not that there's any obviously, but like, we were always winning in the winter. Like, summer Celtics only had one until recently in my, like, when I was really partying with it. The Celtics only had one in. The Bruins only had one. So those were like the summer parties. So everything else was kind of end in the winter and you didn't really have like everyone outside and everyone like. Like. That's a good point. I was walking home because we had the apartment live game 4, and I left at halftime. And I was like walking home while that comeback was happening. And like, just like, stop. Like every. Literally every single bar had just this huge crowd outside spilling into the street. Like, literally. I was like, where are these people coming from? Yeah, but you don't. That was something I missed. And I didn't realize I missed.
- [54:43]
KFC
Yeah.
- [54:43]
John
In a lot of like winter wins because you just don't.
- [54:45]
KFC
The weather makes a difference.
- [54:46]
John
Yeah, it does.
- [54:47]
KFC
And it almost. For years, my whole life I've heard New York is a basketball town. If the Knicks ever win it and all the fans can come together, you'll see something you've never Seen before and I was always like, yeah, yeah, I bet, I bet.
- [55:00]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yeah, sure.
- [55:01]
KFC
Like, but it's not gonna happen and whatever. To watch it happen, it was almost like it was like, oh, like the prophecy was true. Like, I mean there that many people in the streets all. It wasn't advertised.
- [55:13]
Marty
It was better than ever, ever you could ever pitch.
- [55:15]
KFC
And it really was at the very end in. In certain moments it seemed crazy, but in the end extremely peaceful. Extremely like good. I think I.
- [55:24]
John
That picture, the picture of the Freedom Tower. Have you guys seen that one? Yeah.
- [55:26]
KFC
Where it's like perfectly symmetrical, that one. Crazy.
- [55:29]
John
That pictures of them like going down
- [55:31]
Marty
and it just goes on forever. Just.
- [55:33]
John
Yeah. I mean your video is so fucking sick.
- [55:37]
KFC
Like the amount of content coming out of it. I.
- [55:40]
Marty
Every artist, every artist in New York
- [55:41]
KFC
City is having a field day.
- [55:44]
John
Careers are careers.
- [55:47]
KFC
There's this guy, Gavin De Draw is his name. He drew this. He drew. He drew a like a outside of MSG picture for the Knicks. They got commissioned by the Knicks and then this artist with like 10 million followers just yoinked it just straight up, I mean the same picture and put it on sale. And I'm sure he made a killing off of it. I was just thinking to myself the amount of like other industries that are getting affected and now have storylines and all that, all because of this. The butterfly effect is. Is absolutely crazy.
- [56:16]
Jackie
How much do you think also like the celebrity nature of it all added to like as a girl.
- [56:22]
KFC
Oh my God. Having like Kylie Jenner sideline, Taylor Swift side courtside.
- [56:25]
Jackie
But is it normal? Like, I mean I feel like Timothy Chalamet was like the mascot.
- [56:29]
KFC
There was always also like there was
- [56:31]
John
so like there were people from so many different demographics effects too. People like, oh, like if it was just Taylor Swift and Kylie Jenner, it could have been like Larry David. Larry David. It's been Stiller. Yeah, like there was.
- [56:44]
KFC
I like that. I. I think. I'm sure a lot of people don't like it. Like, I'm sure there are people who are like jealous or like well woke Hollywood or whatever like that. But I. I think even for the most part the occasional Taylor Swift here or there who like you know, is not really like a die hard. They're just doing it for fun. But most of those rich famous people are fans.
- [57:02]
John
That's what I was gonna say.
- [57:03]
KFC
They're like, they know their shit.
- [57:04]
John
To me, like a lot of them were like, no, I can't. I'm sure they were 100%. They were like little got all the
- [57:10]
KFC
attention a little peeved by. By Ben Stiller. I just feel like he kind of. I just feel like Spike Lee kind of deserves the nod of, like, if you're going to be like, the director of the Knicks, like, it probably should be Spike Lee. But I also.
- [57:21]
John
But, like, that's not like. Like, they didn't ask Ben Stiller to do it. Ben Stiller was doing it and then sold it to somebody.
- [57:27]
KFC
Yeah. Yeah.
- [57:27]
John
I guess Spike could have done it.
- [57:29]
Jackie
Right?
- [57:29]
John
It wasn't like, I'm not even.
- [57:30]
Marty
I'm not.
- [57:31]
KFC
Or could you make this. I'm not a huge Spike Lee guy myself. I. I just feel like.
- [57:35]
John
I think. I think. I think Spike, if he wanted to, he could have been doing it. He's probably like, I'm happy to enjoy it. Ben was making it. And when. Hey, guys. I have a ton of footage.
- [57:42]
KFC
The only thing I feel is, like, I feel like Shalamet is. Is really there, like, just for the team.
- [57:47]
Marty
Absolutely.
- [57:48]
KFC
I think I'm reading. I'm just. This is fan fiction I'm making up in my head. But I. I think Ben Stiller is a little bit, like, this is an opportunity for me. Whereas, like, I think Shalom would be like, hey, man, we can't. You got to sit in the three hundreds tonight. He'd be like, okay, fine, dude.
- [57:59]
John
Stiller, I. I saw. What was it last year?
- [58:04]
KFC
Kaz.
- [58:07]
John
Kaz. What's he, the host now?
- [58:09]
KFC
He is the host of. He's on 7:00pm in Brooklyn with. With mellow, and then he's on Hot 97 in the morning.
- [58:14]
John
Hot 97. That's what it was. But, Kaz, last year, once the Knicks got eliminated, hosted some kind of Knicks event. And I remember he tweeted, Ben Stiller rolled up, no security, no nothing.
- [58:25]
Marty
Yeah.
- [58:26]
John
In sunglasses. And he's like, he's good forever in the. The city.
- [58:28]
Marty
Cool.
- [58:28]
John
And if Kaz co. Sign him. I was.
- [58:30]
KFC
From then on, the King of New York is the King of New York. That guy. He embodies New York. That was a fun part of this whole thing too, is all of the like. And I hope this happens with us for, like, other people. Like, you're the content creators that you follow, like, become a part of your daily life. It's like, oh, I'm listening to this. I was listening to the Nick's Film School podcast every day. I'm following, like, I'm. I'm watching every Douglas song, every. Every Twitter account. I'm following all of it. So there was like, even, like, Monica McNutt becoming like not a household name, but like a pretty big name.
- [59:00]
Marty
Big name.
- [59:01]
KFC
You know, she's the radio announcer. The amount of careers being made or, you know, like the, the everybody gets a bump from this. I think America's on heater.
- [59:10]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yeah.
- [59:10]
KFC
I think the Knicks into the World cup is the best PR we've had in years. People being like, yo, America's great. I'm like, I get that you probably, if you keep up with the news, it doesn't seem that way, but, but let's just all be clear. America's awesome. From a day to day basis, this place kicks ass.
- [59:27]
John
Completely agree. The Argentinian. I believe it was the Argentinian ambassador. I think he said it best where he said some paraphrasing something to the effect of how lucky are we to finally have the American people get to speak for America and not the American politicians. Hell yeah. And I couldn't possibly agree more with that.
- [59:44]
KFC
And there's that quote. I don't know who said it. I think it's an old one, though. It's like, if you want to hate America, watch the news. You want to love America. Could drive through it.
- [59:49]
John
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [59:50]
KFC
If you're experiencing it.
- [59:51]
John
I now I, I do like, I. It's happening everywhere. I think I like, yeah, it is awesome here. I couldn't be happier for Boston. I think that watching the tartan army in Boston was legitimately like watching like a depressed friend come out of it. That's how I feel like Boston. I really don't think for me, I'm speaking for me, but I, I. The response I've seen feels a lot of people agreed. It didn't really come back from COVID every time I was there.
- [60:20]
KFC
Interesting.
- [60:20]
John
And I'm, I'm, I'm a visitor. I don't live there. I'm not like trying to speak for. I'm speaking from my experiences only, but, like, it just never really felt the same to me. And, and I think the tartan stops. Like, I think kind of it seemed the people I follow on Twitter, it seemed like they kind of reminded everyone like, yo, this city's awesome.
- [60:39]
KFC
Do you think that they, how do they schedule that? Like, I, I kept thinking to myself, Scott's in Boston is a really good fit.
- [60:46]
John
Do you think they, do you think
- [60:47]
KFC
they took that into account or.
- [60:48]
John
I think, yes, I think, I think they. If it's all.
- [60:51]
KFC
Because if you put like the Scots in like LA or some, it would
- [60:54]
John
be like, like the Scots came to New York. They didn't like New York Really? They're in Miami right now. I'm gonna get definitely, like, in Miami.
- [61:01]
KFC
Yeah.
- [61:01]
John
But like, yes, the, The. The kind.
- [61:04]
KFC
Because Scots, like, are like, you know,
- [61:06]
John
it's like, like any Celtic. Like. Yeah, like, I think Scotland's Celtic, right?
- [61:09]
KFC
Yeah, but it's like, it's like Irishman on St Patrick's Day in Boston.
- [61:14]
John
Bus balls talk fast and they drink beer. Yeah.
- [61:17]
KFC
Like drinking Boston Dry is. You're saying something, bro.
- [61:19]
John
You know, four times. What? St. Patrick. I'm sorry, what? St. Patrick.
- [61:22]
KFC
That is crazy.
- [61:23]
John
Nuts.
- [61:24]
KFC
I wonder if they were like, did
- [61:26]
John
you see like, like the. The Boston Globe did a full page ad thanking the tartan army.
- [61:30]
KFC
Wow.
- [61:30]
John
And it's like, it's like a beautiful. Thank you.
- [61:32]
KFC
It was like, you helped us, we helped you.
- [61:33]
John
People like you.
- [61:34]
Marty
Yeah.
- [61:35]
John
It really felt like. I don't know what I'm even talking about, but just.
- [61:39]
KFC
But it might have, like, it brought him back.
- [61:41]
John
Oh, fuck. Yeah. Like, it's back a little bit.
- [61:43]
KFC
I. There's part of me I love as
- [61:46]
John
America as a whole. Yeah.
- [61:47]
KFC
I don't even really care about the games until. Unless like, if we keep winning. Like. But the melting pot shit is awesome.
- [61:53]
John
It's that.
- [61:54]
KFC
That's very, very cool. The only thing I. I'm a little bit. I think that that guy Freddie on Twitter and that Japanese guy, you know
- [62:03]
John
I'm talking about Ready. I never really cared about.
- [62:04]
Jackie
Okay.
- [62:05]
KFC
So, like, I think that stuff's.
- [62:07]
John
Freddie was cool for a minute. A minute.
- [62:09]
KFC
And then the problem is he's like, I'm gonna get all these views and shit by doing this.
- [62:12]
John
And it's the. Of the whole thing. Because, Freddy, you're doing nothing wrong. Of course. Take all these opportunities.
- [62:17]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [62:17]
John
It's. It's the balance of all of it. It's really hard.
- [62:20]
KFC
And also, don't you think there's some performativeness to it at some point? Yeah, yeah. Like. Like I. If I went overseas and it's the way they can't like comprehend it.
- [62:34]
John
Yeah.
- [62:34]
KFC
Like, have you seen there are snacks at the gas station? And it's like, I get that that doesn't happen over there, but it does also.
- [62:42]
John
I was just, I guess snacks at the gas. And I was thinking like biggest bucky's. But like, I went to a gas station. This is a gas station.
- [62:52]
KFC
And even if you didn't have those things, I can understand the concept of it. It's not like it's so foreign that you know, like. Or that Japanese guy be like, they gave you free chips at your Meal. And it's like, all right, I get. You don't get that. But, like, that's just something we do.
- [63:06]
Marty
Americans go over to, like, Japan and get excited about the 7 11s because they, they're like, higher quality. Yeah, we get excited about anything.
- [63:12]
John
Grass is always green.
- [63:13]
Marty
Yeah.
- [63:13]
KFC
I did also hear people saying that this is more of, like, a movie thing where they're like, oh, this was a.
- [63:20]
John
No, don't switch.
- [63:20]
KFC
Just come sit over here. Four of us sit here and talk. I can't believe how weird that it's mostly her. But they're still weird about this.
- [63:28]
Jackie
I don't know why.
- [63:30]
Marty
Wait.
- [63:30]
KFC
But it's the, the. What we talking about? The, the performance of wrapping her mind around it. Oh, yeah. I just the confusion or like, the, the. That to me, is very strange where they're like, I. Oh, no, no, the movies. I. I think a lot of people are like, I. I've seen people in. In. In a gas station like this in my favorite Hollywood movie.
- [63:54]
John
Now, I.
- [63:54]
KFC
So it's that kind of.
- [63:55]
John
That people don't understand the effect of that.
- [63:58]
KFC
Yeah.
- [63:59]
John
When you see a place you've been. Yeah.
- [64:04]
KFC
I always take that for granted. It's always New York.
- [64:06]
John
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- [64:07]
KFC
Right. And so it's like, yeah, all these movies are in New York, but yeah. If in your, like, little town, you're
- [64:10]
John
like, oh, that's our boy. Yeah. Yeah.
- [64:12]
KFC
So I think that's a big part of it, but, yeah, it's some of it.
- [64:16]
Jackie
Freddy guy, also on him, it feels like he's just getting dms. Being like, this will get a big reaction.
- [64:22]
John
Yeah.
- [64:23]
KFC
And he should ride that wave, and I'm cool with it. But let's, you know, it's. That's what's going on here. The World cup in general is, Is very funny to like, Like, I saw a bunch of people be like, we don't give a. About the World Cup. The Knicks are on. They're not on. So it's like, now what happens?
- [64:39]
John
It's. It's.
- [64:40]
KFC
If we're good, watch out. I mean, I can't.
- [64:42]
John
I saw someone. I don't. I don't. I don't know soccer either. But, like, I don't think I, I think we're okay. I think we're. I, I.
- [64:50]
KFC
But even that is huge. If we could just be okay at the World cup, like, in the conversation, you're never really gonna win, but, like, by the way, there's only eight teams who have ever won the World Cup. It's like, it's like Argentina, Brazil, England, Germany, France and like one or two other Italy. When you think about it's like every four years, it's not that often. And those are, you have Brazil's one at like five times. So that takes up 20 years.
- [65:14]
John
Yeah, yeah.
- [65:14]
KFC
And so I guess it makes sense but when I heard that I was like, I was like, hang on. So England does all this talking, they
- [65:19]
John
only want one cup but if we
- [65:22]
KFC
could just be, you know, make it to like the semifinals here and there, that'd be huge.
- [65:26]
John
I, I, I, I was reading the after week one like the re rankings of the teams.
- [65:31]
Marty
Yeah.
- [65:31]
John
And I was like, almost like, like you know, after you're, you have a good few weeks with the team, you're like time to see how awesome we are. And I see we're the 17th ranked team now. So. And then I saw someone else say like, like, like realistically like how hard would it be for America to win? And they said Indiana football before last season.
- [65:49]
Marty
Oh yeah.
- [65:50]
KFC
So we got no shot.
- [65:51]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [65:51]
John
Yeah.
- [65:52]
Jackie
Okay. That's the other thing. I feel like New York's gonna have like another because already there's so many because like everyone's from different, different places here. So like all the games are like, there's at least one like out of Felix, outside of Felix. Like there's always like a bunch of like Iranian people. And then it feels like EPCOT right now.
- [66:08]
John
Yeah, exactly. It's like a different game going on.
- [66:11]
Jackie
Right.
- [66:11]
KFC
Different part of it's like studying abroad. But the abroad's coming to you. Yeah, they're studying abroad with us. Very cool.
- [66:18]
John
A quote before it started that said like every World cup is the biggest event in the history of the world and every subsequent World cup will be. Yeah. And you're like, oh yeah, I didn't think about like that's like the cultural mix and the cultural. And then just like the cultural mix of it's all the biggest drinkers. Yeah. Like it's every country's biggest.
- [66:36]
KFC
You got the Mexicans drinking tequila, you got the Scots drinking beer.
- [66:38]
John
Everybody's drinking. It's not the, they're not sending over their financial analysts, they're sending over their die hard football fans.
- [66:45]
KFC
I mean think about how, how crazy do you have to be to go travel international for your team? Like, like when the Knicks go to
- [66:51]
John
Philly, people are like, whoa, they went
- [66:54]
KFC
over across the world.
- [66:56]
John
This is four year meeting of the world's biggest binge drinkers. It's going to be good.
- [67:02]
KFC
I mean do you think that they like do you think that, like, politics plays into this? You know, like, propaganda? But do you think they pick, like,
- [67:11]
John
oh, you think Donald Trump got the FIFA Peace Prize for no reason?
- [67:15]
KFC
But I mean, like, from. Do you think that they would. They would send fans over? Like, do you think they'd be like, we want, like, these type of people. We'll pay for you guys to go and represent us in America.
- [67:25]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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- [67:26]
KFC
Or is it just like, they let the Die hards do the diehard?
- [67:28]
John
I think you probably let the die
- [67:29]
KFC
hards do that when you're talking about the biggest event in the history of the world every time. There's more business and going on than you realize.
- [67:36]
John
Yeah, yeah.
- [67:37]
KFC
Like, I just think there's. It's just too big to be like, let's see what happens at these games. I think it's like, we. We're gonna make money this way and that way.
- [67:43]
Jackie
And that's what I was wondering also about, like, the Knicks. And this might be a completely conspiracy theory, but my sister and I were talking about this, like, is it possible that there's like a. You know, they are supposed to go to more games? Like, we thought maybe there would be game six because there's so much money every single game. It's like the seats, the ads, everything like that.
- [68:01]
Marty
NBA was trying to do their best.
- [68:02]
Jackie
Yeah. Is there any kind of conspiracy about that?
- [68:05]
John
Every year we're big. Welcome to sports.
- [68:08]
KFC
Yeah. But times a million with the Knicks. But still.
- [68:12]
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- [68:59]
KFC
Yeah, there. There's always, like, there we know the names of referees in the NBA because it's like, oh, that guy is known to make the series go longer. So that I think they said, you
- [69:07]
John
know, I saw the other day, like, I did. Not that I know a ton of NBA referees, but then I saw a clip of Kevin Durant talking about NBA referees.
- [69:13]
KFC
Yeah. And, like, they don't.
- [69:15]
John
He, like, the greatest referees are all the people everyone bitches about.
- [69:18]
Marty
Right.
- [69:19]
John
So, like, the play, the players love them and think they're great. He's like, Joey Crawford. That dude a gangster. Oh, I know that game.
- [69:26]
KFC
Scott Foster is the big one. Scott Foster's the big one they call the extender.
- [69:29]
Marty
Yeah.
- [69:30]
KFC
Because he always, I guess typically the game, the series get extended. So it was like, oh, they're sending Scott Foster to extended for the Spurs. Meanwhile, The Knicks were 10. 0 in their last 10 Scott Foster games. So I was like, well, which one is it? But, yeah, those conspiracy theories go, whatever you want. Yeah, those go hard.
- [69:47]
Jackie
Audition.
- [69:49]
KFC
I, I, I don't think they do audition, but I'm sure they put on
- [69:52]
John
their wardrobe and then they audition. Yeah.
- [69:54]
KFC
They read lines. They go like this. They stand in front of a table, blow the whistle. Is that good? We need a little louder with that whistle.
- [70:02]
John
Adam Silver. It's just like Stanley Tucci.
- [70:05]
KFC
Yeah. Next it's like American Idol. It's a no for me, dog. Yeah. So the world, the World cup is fun. I feel like, I don't know what started it, but right now it's like, Knicks win a championship. I'm kind of liking soccer. I like Game of Thrones again, like, everything's coming up roses. Like, like the, the, you know, I remember, like, always joking about when everything, Something good happens in sports. My go to line was always like, the sun's shining a little brighter and the birds are chirping a little louder and the beer is colder and all that. Like, that's why I feel like life right now. And I'm like, wow. It's pretty rare for me to be like, things are going pretty good. I'm liking everything right now. I don't know. I don't know what. Maybe it's, I don't know if it started with the Knicks.
- [70:51]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [70:52]
KFC
What's that?
- [70:52]
Jackie
You feel like, get a new identity.
- [70:53]
John
Yeah.
- [70:54]
KFC
I'm like, I have a whole new personality now because, Because, I don't know. I like a TV show and my team won the championship.
- [71:01]
John
It's crazy.
- [71:01]
KFC
The things that can affect your, you know, really affect your life.
- [71:04]
John
It's embarrassing.
- [71:05]
Marty
Yeah.
- [71:05]
John
When you start noticing what changes your emotion. I am pathetic, even. Well, that was just because you were hungry, John.
- [71:15]
KFC
Getting home late at night. So the games go late and then getting, getting Home from the city takes, like, two hours. And every night on game nights, I would get home and I was like, well, now I can't, like, take my weed gummies because it's too late at night. And if I smoke or take my Benadryl, I'm going to be all right. I'm like, I can't even stay up late anymore.
- [71:31]
John
What kind of a are you, dude?
- [71:33]
KFC
Stayed up late for a basketball game and ruined my whole week. You are the worst, dude.
- [71:37]
Marty
I felt it for the first time in my life. This. This run.
- [71:39]
KFC
I was, like, getting old.
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- [71:41]
Marty
I'd wake up so dehydrated without pounding headache after four beers every single night. It was welcome.
- [71:47]
KFC
It sucks.
- [71:48]
Marty
That run was just.
- [71:49]
KFC
Why I just don't even do it anymore. But, yeah, I mean, I'm living the dream. Things are going good right now. Polar opposite of Terence Cruise. Terry Crews. Dark, dark place. Terry Crews said something that. Let's just.
- [72:05]
John
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
- [72:06]
Jackie
Sorry. By the way, can you give me a run?
- [72:09]
KFC
Do we have any more. Anything else before we get into that?
- [72:11]
John
No. Let's go. Terry.
- [72:12]
KFC
You know Terry Crews? Who he is, right?
- [72:14]
Jackie
Yep.
- [72:14]
KFC
Okay. I think for this conversation, we should suspend disbelief and just go with it, because what Terrence Cruz said. He said he had a porn addiction. Yeah, he said.
- [72:26]
Jackie
On what platform is this? Do I look stupid right now?
- [72:31]
KFC
Oh, yeah, no, you're fine. Well, yeah, probably stupid, but I thought.
- [72:35]
John
I thought she meant. We looked at Grotesque anyway, by the
- [72:38]
Jackie
way, looked at the cameras. Terrible.
- [72:43]
KFC
Wait, wait, why? It's the same studio used to do the podcast. Terrible.
- [72:46]
Jackie
It's just a shadow.
- [72:47]
KFC
It's just like you messed it up a little bit. They look. Okay, This. I was going to say what is.
- [72:52]
Jackie
But I also just forgot. Podcast lighting. You just look tired.
- [72:56]
Marty
Yeah,
- [72:59]
John
partying dude.
- [73:02]
KFC
For two weeks.
- [73:02]
John
Thanks. Great, Chloe.
- [73:03]
KFC
Okay, everyone just pretend you're looking at me and not watching me. I. I thought. What I thought that question meant was, like, where is he watching the porn?
- [73:12]
John
Yeah.
- [73:13]
KFC
Is he a porno guy?
- [73:15]
John
Videos.
- [73:15]
KFC
A red tube browser's been there. This was some podcast, like interview something or other.
- [73:21]
Jackie
Right.
- [73:21]
John
I'll tell you what Terry Crews likes to talk about. Any microphone. Yeah.
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- [73:26]
John
Someone probably said, hey, good morning, Terry. And he went, did I tell you about my porn addiction?
- [73:30]
KFC
He told us one story while working on set, like, on, like, a movie. He said he wrapped up the day at like, 10am it was like an early shoot. He was like, I went to the gym. And then I watched porn from 11am to, like, midnight.
- [73:42]
Jackie
Okay.
- [73:42]
KFC
He said he watched 13 straight hours of porn. I don't know. And listen, we, we like porn, okay? We're a pro porn podcast. I don't think I've watched 13 hours of porn cumulatively in my life. Like, it's, you know, it's usually like two minutes a clip, you know, like, I'm like, okay, I'm done. 13 hours in 13 consecutive hours of watching pornography. Are you fucking kidding me? He's watched all of the porn. I, I, I imagine that, Imagine running out, you know, when you're like, oh, like, I just finished up that series. I'm like, I don't have any shows left.
- [74:18]
John
He does that with porn.
- [74:19]
KFC
He's like, I don't. Yep, that was the last Bella Danger video. I finished the book, I finished the Internet of porn.
- [74:27]
Jackie
That is like many separate, like, jerk off says that I, he's not going back to back.
- [74:34]
KFC
Like, I mean, you know, talk to this guy over here, you know, you,
- [74:39]
John
yeah, talk to me. I like, like you.
- [74:41]
KFC
You've never done 13 hours?
- [74:42]
John
No. God, no. You still give me a hangover and a wi fi connection. I can hammer some for you. But the, like, I, I, I, like, no, no. God, no.
- [74:51]
KFC
Because I got know if Terry Crews was like, like, there's, there's, there's, there's one scenario that I think is totally fine, and one scenario that's like, you need to be put down. If that man was like, I'm on set of this movie and I, I'm done today. And like, I don't have anything to do for 12 hours. And he just was like, I'm chilling in the hotel room. I'm ordering room service. I'm watching movies. And also I got my laptop and I'm banging it out every couple hours. That sounds like a fun day.
- [75:16]
John
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [75:17]
KFC
That I can get down with. That's self care.
- [75:19]
John
That's self care. What?
- [75:21]
KFC
The way he characterized it is like, you need to be castrated. You need chemical castration. You need to be removed from the gene pool. You're sick of that.
- [75:28]
John
How many orders of food were in the room? That's all that matters.
- [75:32]
KFC
That will make it totally fine.
- [75:34]
John
Or if he was in a robe. Have your fun, brother. If there's like a bag of Wendy's in this corner and a bag of McDonald's in this corner, I'm painting from memory right now. Then at that point, bro, you got a problem.
- [75:49]
KFC
And you know what's also crazy? Not that Terry Crews is, is, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio. Or something. Terry Crews could, could, could get somebody to come over to his hotel, and that could just be a fun time. Like, when you're an actor, you could just be like, I could jerk off for 13 hours, or I could have sex with like, 10 different women if I wanted to. And he chooses to do it by himself.
- [76:07]
John
Yeah. Like, I talk to people all day. Yeah.
- [76:10]
KFC
So there's definitely times where I'm like, I, I, I don't want to be with another person.
- [76:16]
John
So I get that. I got this, this is something I me,
- [76:24]
KFC
This is nobody else's business but mine. But you know, the, the porn addiction thing, and sex addiction was kind of the first one, and then porn addiction became like a new, new wave thing. And I, I think as I've gotten older, I can understand it where it's like, if you make bad decisions in your life over sex or porn, you can qualify that as an addiction. So, like, for sure, I understand that. But I think it is hard for people to wrap their mind around, like, you're addicted to watching porn on the Internet. You can't just stop it, you know? And I know that's, you know, very simplifying it all, but it just seems crazy to me that Terry, like, I just, the thought of him, like, being in the room, like, don't do it, don't do it.
- [77:05]
John
I'm doing it again.
- [77:08]
KFC
Unless there's a, like, unless he's about to go start like a anti porn podcast career or something. Just don't say that out loud. It makes, Just keep that one in the time.
- [77:18]
John
Brooklyn nine. Nine different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [77:23]
KFC
That guy, he is no, like, the next role he's ever in.
- [77:26]
John
I'm like, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, you think you picture, like, other, like, great actors. We like Dustin Hoffman in Apocalypse now, and he was like, getting off heroin or whatever the. It was.
- [77:37]
KFC
Tim the Tool Man Taylor was like, dealing heroin and all that. Like, all these guys are not what
- [77:41]
John
you think Harry was.
- [77:44]
KFC
Terry. Terry Crews is gonna get me tooed for his own masturbation. Like, you're a deviant. I'm not. I'm doing it by myself.
- [77:52]
John
You're still.
- [77:53]
KFC
There are no victims. You are the perpetrator and the victim, sir.
- [77:57]
Jackie
Was he saying it under the guise of like, like, I'm ashamed or.
- [78:02]
KFC
I think he was like, that's when I knew I needed to get help sort of thing.
- [78:04]
Jackie
Oh, so he, he's in recovery?
- [78:05]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
I guess so.
- [78:06]
John
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [78:07]
KFC
That's got to be a hard one to Recover from, by the way. Just like it's always right there.
- [78:10]
John
Yeah, yeah. I've heard alcohol is like. People think that's the hardest because, like, it's legal and you can see on every street corner you still get horny.
- [78:19]
KFC
Yeah, I know.
- [78:20]
John
The easiest way to fix this, right?
- [78:22]
Marty
Yeah.
- [78:23]
KFC
And I wonder is like, so if you're addicted to porn and you just stop the porn, are you addicted to masturbating or you just to porn?
- [78:31]
John
Good question.
- [78:32]
KFC
Because, you know, it's almost like medical that you have to masturbate every now and then or get it out. Some has to be poor porn because
- [78:40]
Marty
if you didn't have porn, you would probably be way less likely to.
- [78:42]
John
Yeah. Cuz if you were addicted to coming.
- [78:44]
Jackie
How often do guys do it from memory?
- [78:50]
Marty
Not since I.
- [78:51]
John
Not since WI Fi was invented.
- [78:52]
KFC
That's not totally true. I'll blast off from memory every now and then.
- [78:56]
John
I'll go for a road game.
- [78:58]
KFC
It depends on. It depends on if I'm in a room for 13 hours by myself or not, you know?
- [79:02]
John
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's.
- [79:03]
KFC
There are strictly met medical, though. It's like, there are definitely times where I'm like, I got a big day,
- [79:08]
John
but I'm like, what the hell are you doing here?
- [79:13]
KFC
Invited right now?
- [79:14]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [79:14]
John
Like, if I'm going to jerk off, it's not from memory. But sometimes.
- [79:17]
Jackie
What the.
- [79:19]
John
We got stuff to do.
- [79:21]
KFC
Those are. There are legitimate times where I'm like, all right, we got the podcast at 11. Then I gotta go do this. You gotta do that. Let me. It's almost like I gotta shower, brush my jeans. I can't go out there with a loaded gun.
- [79:31]
John
It's Crazy Tuesday.
- [79:32]
Marty
Come on.
- [79:36]
KFC
What else do we got?
- [79:38]
John
Hey, I'm gonna go pee while we do that. Okay. Okay.
- [79:41]
KFC
We've done all the important stuff, but now since the gang's all back together, we might as well, I don't know, I guess, kind of update everybody, right?
- [79:49]
John
Oh, yeah.
- [79:51]
KFC
Well, let's do TV too. We'll talk tv. Yeah, we'll talk some TV first. Game of Thrones is.
- [79:55]
John
Is back.
- [79:56]
KFC
The best series on television is back. And I know a lot of people gave up. You should get back into it. You, everybody. If you liked Game of Thrones and you didn't like How's a Dragon? In the beginning, you should go back. You should watch House of the Seven, Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
- [80:09]
John
That was awesome.
- [80:10]
KFC
And then you will. You will watch House of the Dragon differently. Here's my current theory. It's pretty crazy. But I think it makes sense because I went back and I rewatched. I started to re watch season one and two of House of the Dragon to lead up to season three. And I was like, this isn't that bad. And I don't know why we were so critical of it. We were on the podcast being like, this shit sucks. And a lot of people in general really did not like it. And there was all this talk about how George R.R. martin doesn't get along with the showrunner. And it was a mess. And at the time, I felt all that was true. And then I was rewatching it, and I was like, there's definitely some things that I'm like, didn't love that, and that part's not great. But overall, this is just like standard Thrones television. I think a Night of the Seven Kingdoms, like, reset the whole universe. Game of Thrones universe, I think. I think it was like, there was one series, and then House of the Dragon was the second one. And I think people were inherently comparing.
- [81:03]
John
Yeah.
- [81:04]
KFC
Fighting. And it's like we. I think it was. We still hated the end of Game of Thrones, and now we have this new thing that's also not great. And so it was just a lot of comparison and judgment and being critical. Then Night of the Seven Kingdoms comes along, and it does it in this short, easy, digestible, funny way. And now there's three shows.
- [81:24]
John
Yeah.
- [81:24]
KFC
And it almost makes me feel like now we have a whole universe of shows and characters, and we have a new barometer for what is a good episode, a bad episode, and a great episode. You know? And so I was like, it just. As the body of work got bigger, I was sort of like, that actually wasn't that bad. And that. That was actually great. And all that sort of 100.
- [81:43]
John
You just started watching after the guy.
- [81:45]
KFC
Yes.
- [81:45]
John
You know. Yeah.
- [81:46]
Jackie
Right.
- [81:46]
John
Like, how's it dragging? Was the guy after the guy?
- [81:48]
KFC
They said that about, like, replacing Jeter at shortstop, Francesa at the radio. The first guy gets killed, the third guy. The next guy gets lost. And then every then it raises all levels.
- [81:57]
John
You know, the next guy has a real shot. Yeah, like, like, it was like, same thing with like. Like, Cam Newton. Yeah. We're gonna be the quarterback.
- [82:07]
Jackie
Right.
- [82:07]
John
You, like. You need to have someone else.
- [82:10]
KFC
A sacrificial lamb. Sort of. And. And that.
- [82:12]
John
And that was.
- [82:12]
KFC
I think it was as bad as I thought.
- [82:14]
John
Not.
- [82:14]
Marty
How's the dragon?
- [82:15]
John
It's 97 kingdoms. That was, like, quick and easy and could, like, kind of just Refresh and be fun. Yeah. And then maybe like, give everyone a more cleaner slate to watch this.
- [82:23]
KFC
And also, I'm definitely interested in this now. Binging. It's different than watching week to week because there's a storyline in In House the Dragon with this guy Damon, where he is, he. He goes off by himself to this castle and he has nightmares and hallucinations and it's like a whole season of him just seeing and nothing really happens. And when you're binging and I was just like, fast forward. Yeah, week to week. Absolutely sucked. Now, the episode that aired last night was, I think, one of the best episodes of Thrones ever. I think it's definitely one of the best battles you'll ever see. And it was supposed to be the finale for season two. And because of budget reasons, they pushed it to the.
- [82:56]
John
Oh, yeah, Were you guys all bitching at the end of that? You're like, this sucks, but never again. Right?
- [83:00]
KFC
Yeah, because it was like, we did this whole build up for nothing.
- [83:03]
John
Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.
- [83:05]
KFC
So. But I do wonder if they knew they were catching so much heat online, but I wonder if they knew they had this in the tuck. Like, like, we're gonna drop a bomb on you. So, like, just be patient. I don't know when they filmed that. I don't know how it happened, but that episode rocked. It was like a standalone movie. It was. There was characters who were like, not introduced, but like bit characters who they made really important, established a storyline, created like emotion, and did it all in one episode. It was unbelievable. And it was like almost like sports in a way. It was like, like, I am very happy to have this back in my life. Like, if that. If that show can be good again. Oh, mama. And their actors are all so good. The storylines are so good. It just. It was like we went through an era of hating on Game of Thrones because the finale was bad, the books weren't finished, all, you know, all that just made it be like, and now a new darling series kind of re resets it and these guys step in with a bomb episode. And part of me is like, we're cooking again. It makes me wish that all those. They went so extreme when the show ended. There was like those 10 spin offs that were announced and then they all got canceled when House the Dragon wasn't great. So.
- [84:16]
John
Yeah, yeah.
- [84:16]
KFC
Everything's been so reactionary.
- [84:19]
John
Yeah, yeah.
- [84:19]
KFC
It was literally 10 for non gaming thumbs.
- [84:22]
Jackie
Game of Throners. So it's Game of Thrones, House of Dragon seven nights and now it's back to.
- [84:27]
KFC
Yeah, it was so.
- [84:28]
Jackie
It was.
- [84:28]
KFC
Game of Thrones was all by itself. And then season one and two of House of the Dragon started.
- [84:33]
Marty
Yeah.
- [84:33]
KFC
And it was like, these characters are good and we know the source material is good, but, like, it's just not coming together.
- [84:38]
Jackie
That was like. I came. I watched a few episodes of that.
- [84:41]
KFC
Yeah.
- [84:42]
Jackie
I thought was really good. Never know.
- [84:43]
Marty
It was like this.
- [84:44]
KFC
Well, so that's where I'm like, I think I was just being a little bitch. And I was just like being kind of recency bias about it being bad. And because I. When I went back and watched, I was like, this is pretty good.
- [84:55]
John
It's insane. The stuff that affects how you enjoy things.
- [84:58]
Jackie
And then.
- [84:58]
KFC
And then it really.
- [84:59]
John
You can just like, you watch something again like ten years later. This is awesome.
- [85:04]
KFC
It legit made me feel bad that I was like, who the am I? And me and my idiot co hosts and like all these people on. On the Internet saying how bad it was. Like, I'm sure the showrunners and stuff
- [85:13]
John
like you guys now.
- [85:15]
KFC
But to be fair, there are. There were some stuff I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that. That was stupid. Or they kept doing this thing, probably because of budgets, where they just wouldn't show the big moments. They would be like, the battle just happened and we didn't see it. Or they'd be like, this conversation happened off screen. It was like. So there were. You know, it's not perfect, but I think that was my point was like, I was. We were trying to compare it to, like, season four of Game of Thrones. It's like, that's the best ever.
- [85:35]
John
Yeah.
- [85:36]
KFC
There's a lot of in between.
- [85:37]
John
Season four had so much set up before we even got to it. Yeah. Like, you needed the season one and
- [85:42]
KFC
that's what made me feel like this. The premiere this season was so good, but because they set a lot of it up for the last two seasons. So I. I think. I think Thrones is back in a big way. I think this could make it like a. There's a lot of characters. I think they do a good job. I'm pretty dumb when I watch television. Like, I'm a lot of. I'm usually high these days, too. I'm like, I can't remember who's who. And I forget what happened the night before and refresh it. This even I'm following. I'm like, I know exactly who they are, where they're from, what house they are and what they're doing. So I Think they do it really well. I think it could be back in a major way because it's also. And this is when Thrones was at its best, when you are kind of rooting and kind of hate everybody.
- [86:20]
John
Yeah.
- [86:21]
KFC
Like, I kind of like the Lannisters. I kind of like the bad guys. The good guys piss me off sometimes. So you can kind of root for anybody or hate on anybody.
- [86:28]
Marty
It's.
- [86:28]
KFC
There's a lot of good shit, man. A lot of good actors, too. Like, I was thinking about that one of the guys looks like Chalamet, and I was thinking, imagine if Chalamet was in this instead of this kid. And I was like, I think this kid is, like, just as good of an actor, like, as one of the guys we, you know, revere. That the cast of that show has, like, 20 actors who are all, like, classically trained, epic medieval type, you know? Like, I don't even know who these people are. And they are knocking it out of the park. A lot of talented people out there, man. And we were all just like, this show stinks. Absolutely.
- [87:02]
John
So I'm definitely excited for that one. I'm gonna start that maybe tonight, even. That's the problem is just. There's literally so much too much. It's too much like, bro, when I tell you all I do is watch television.
- [87:12]
KFC
That's all I do. It's bro. Can we figure out a way. I mean, you guys are doing it with the acting, and. But, like, the day that we can just figure out how to cover television, like most people cover sports, our careers are set. I was genuinely thinking about this because I did the Knicks, and I jumped on Sports Central, and I was like, back to doing sports talk. And I was like, I can do this all day, every day. Like, I just have to watch. I know how to talk sports, and I can do it. I just don't, you know?
- [87:38]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [87:39]
KFC
Because I want to watch TV and movies, and it's like, if I could just. You know, it's always the thing with, like, do you watch the show or do you not?
- [87:45]
Marty
And do you.
- [87:46]
KFC
Should I do spoilers or not? And, like, the audience is always an issue, but if it could just be like, we're running through all of the shows of. That's on right now. Like, there's so much. And I watch all of it. When people go, hey, are you watching?
- [88:03]
John
I go, yes. Yeah. Yes.
- [88:05]
Marty
All of it.
- [88:06]
John
Maximum pleasure guaranteed.
- [88:09]
KFC
I was about to say, don't actually call me out on this, because I don't watch everything.
- [88:11]
John
That's One I just started. It's fucking awesome. I don't even know that one was Apple tv. Apple TV is just.
- [88:17]
KFC
It's the best.
- [88:17]
Marty
Apple T just messed up, though.
- [88:19]
KFC
Widow's Bay.
- [88:20]
Marty
And what's the other one?
- [88:22]
John
Cape Fear.
- [88:22]
Marty
Cape Fear. How are they coming at the same time? I started.
- [88:24]
KFC
You told me to watch on Apple.
- [88:27]
John
Yeah, and Maximum Pleasure guaranteed is too. They're all coming out, so Maximum Pleasure guarantee.
- [88:30]
KFC
I'll tell you why there's only four
- [88:31]
John
or five episodes Apple.
- [88:33]
KFC
They are reckless. They are. They don't. Because they don't care.
- [88:36]
Marty
They don't care.
- [88:37]
KFC
They don't care about schedules, calendars. They don't care about reputations. They don't care about budgets. I don't think that you will. Apple TV is the safest place in the world to pick up a show. It will never get canceled.
- [88:46]
John
Yeah.
- [88:47]
KFC
They will see everything through the end. You'll never. You'll never know when it's coming out or promoting it or anything, but when you find it, you will be able to watch five seasons of it, guaranteed.
- [88:55]
John
And, like, every single one will have a. Three mega actors will be starring in mega.
- [89:00]
KFC
I mean, that's probably just a. Like, Apple has cash, right?
- [89:03]
John
So, like, I think it's just one of those, like, almost like, when, like, fanatics was, like, building a subscriber base. This is. I think they're like. They're just, like, doing something where, like, every actor was having the best relationship possible.
- [89:13]
KFC
But they're good too, though. They're not just, like, throwing money.
- [89:16]
John
Might not be Cape Fear.
- [89:17]
Marty
I'm not sure yet.
- [89:18]
KFC
You really.
- [89:19]
John
I'm on. I'm on the fence now.
- [89:20]
Marty
It was a tough first episode.
- [89:21]
John
Javier Bardem is so good that I
- [89:23]
KFC
think he's carrying it.
- [89:25]
John
He's carrying.
- [89:25]
KFC
I don't know why they gave Amy Adams that stupid accent.
- [89:28]
John
Yeah.
- [89:28]
KFC
No one else in the show has the accent. And then she's just doing, like, this Southern Bell thing.
- [89:33]
Marty
It's just.
- [89:33]
KFC
She's not good at it. It's not necessary.
- [89:34]
John
But whatever Javier Bardem is, is awesome, as he always is. But, like, aside from that, there are parts where I'm like, oh, this is my. But it's like, it's good.
- [89:43]
KFC
Is the movie.
- [89:43]
John
It's good. It's fun. Is it like that?
- [89:45]
KFC
I haven't seen the movie. Have you seen the movie?
- [89:46]
John
I've seen the movie.
- [89:46]
Marty
Yeah.
- [89:46]
KFC
I've not seen the movie.
- [89:47]
John
I actually don't really love the movie, to be honest.
- [89:49]
KFC
Are they. I feel like there's almost like A supernatural thing going on. Is that a vibe in the movie?
- [89:54]
John
Not in the movie. The movie.
- [89:56]
KFC
Like, not supernatural, but, like. Like, there's, like. They're doing the rituals and the, like, ceremonies and the cult type thing. You know what I mean?
- [90:02]
John
Kate was in Cade, right? Yeah, he is.
- [90:04]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [90:05]
John
Like a psychotic. He's like that. He's covered in tattoos. He's a very similar character.
- [90:08]
Marty
Okay.
- [90:08]
John
But it's not like. I honestly don't even really remember. I remember watching it. I watched this maybe, like, in the last year or so, but I didn't like it. I. I remember being like. I. I thought De Niro's character was so obviously in the wrong that it was, like, hard to root against it or maybe I'm missing whatever. But the. The show.
- [90:27]
KFC
I don't know if it's.
- [90:27]
John
I'm watching it.
- [90:28]
KFC
I'm in.
- [90:29]
John
It's kind of like. Like, I think it might be, like, Blacklist, where I'm like, it's.
- [90:32]
KFC
Okay.
- [90:32]
John
Okay, great. But it's entertaining as totally.
- [90:34]
Marty
That's fair.
- [90:35]
John
There's.
- [90:35]
KFC
There's a great. That's a great level of television.
- [90:37]
John
Yeah.
- [90:38]
KFC
Not everything's gonna be an epic Emmy winner. It's like, this is a good show,
- [90:40]
John
but Barnum is so good.
- [90:43]
KFC
He's a monster.
- [90:43]
John
But then. Nope. No, I. I think Maximum Pleasure. Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed is my favorite one.
- [90:50]
KFC
What's the plot?
- [90:50]
John
What's the point of that? That's like. It's Jake Johnson. It's fucking Murray Bartlett.
- [90:54]
Marty
Oh, really?
- [90:55]
John
Which I hadn't watched it before we interviewed him. Wow. Yeah. And it's like. It's a murder mystery that's kind of loosely connected to OnlyFans. It's like a chick uses only fans. She's a regular chick. She has a job and stuff, but she uses only fans to fuck a guy, like, to get off, and that guy gets, like, jumped on screen, and she's like. Doesn't know what's happening. She's trying to figure out, like, the crime.
- [91:20]
KFC
Why.
- [91:21]
John
It's. It's awesome. It's really, really.
- [91:24]
KFC
Margo's got money problems. Is Apple as well, right?
- [91:26]
John
Yes.
- [91:26]
KFC
That was good. It was like. It's a little bit wacky and kind of weird, but, like, it was a good. I just watched it, like, 10 episodes, and I was like, okay, that was good.
- [91:34]
John
This one. I also. That's not the greatest description of it, but I'm kind of hiding a lot of things. It's just worth the watch. It's good.
- [91:39]
KFC
Widow's Bay is awesome. I think Widow's Bay is.
- [91:43]
John
Can we all agree we are. That one was my fault. But everyone knows we are filling up water bottles too much, right?
- [91:50]
KFC
Like body armor gives you your money's worth.
- [91:52]
John
They fill, too. Every water bottle is. I open it and I spill on myself. That one was my fault. I own that one.
- [91:58]
KFC
Like this. If you tip it like that, bro,
- [92:00]
John
when I open it, because I'm squeezing. Yeah. Every water bottle starts with me looking like I pissed myself. What was I saying?
- [92:09]
KFC
We were Widows Bay. Widows Bay. I've never watched a show like that. I've never watched a show that can make me laugh, Laugh and genuinely scare me in the same episode.
- [92:16]
John
The laughs, though. So laughs are different.
- [92:19]
KFC
They're. Oh, you haven't watched it.
- [92:21]
Marty
So I started Cape Fear thinking it was Widow's Bay because very similar marketing,
- [92:25]
KFC
very similar brand, by the way. I was stunned, flabbergasted that that Widow's Bay was not Stephen King. I thought I was like, this is absolutely a Stephen King adapted for tv.
- [92:37]
John
No, but you know what? It is. And when you hear who made it, then you're like, oh, that makes a lot of sense, too. It's made by a writer of Parks and Rec and the director of Atlanta. And you put those two together.
- [92:48]
Marty
Yeah,
- [92:50]
Jackie
but is it genuinely scary or is it.
- [92:54]
John
Yeah, yeah.
- [92:55]
KFC
No, there are scenes where, you know, I'm like. It's shot in a way, with, like, a scary old woman who's being creepy. Like, yeah, you get, like, little horror scenes for sure, but they do a good job. You'll be like, well, like, the old woman's coming, the old one's coming. And then, like, something goofy happens, and
- [93:08]
John
you're like, yeah, that's. That's what it is. That's why I said the last. The Dio. When you laugh watching the show, I, I, I. It's a different.
- [93:16]
KFC
It's like a relief, almost like I'm not scared anymore.
- [93:19]
John
It comes from down here. You laugh for, like, you're, like, straight, and then it, like, it kind of pat peters off. It is. It's like obsession laugh kind of, but a little. It is. It's a. It comes from the depths of your soul, really. The laugh, like, they really, really earning.
- [93:35]
KFC
They're good about. They also, like, if you're ever watching a horror movie and you're sort of like. You kind of make it real for a second, you know, you're like. It'd be something like, where, like, you know, a common, like, horror trope happens, like, the car won't start or Something. And he'll react in a way. Matthew Reese will be like. Or something that's just like, oh, that's how you would react in that moment. And you laugh for a second.
- [93:57]
Jackie
So Obsession is like, maybe the only horror film I've ever watched. Light on. I've slept with my light on every single. Really?
- [94:05]
KFC
I haven't seen this because that one scene. Oh, she's like, I don't know if I can watch it, John. I don't know if I can watch it.
- [94:11]
John
Is. It's great.
- [94:12]
Jackie
It's so good.
- [94:13]
John
It's really, really, really good. I, I, somebody.
- [94:16]
KFC
I, I saw some criticism, though, people saying that it was just Big but with a crazy. It was, it was the plot of Big but with a, like a crazy sex thing.
- [94:24]
John
I actually watched Big somewhat recently. I, I'm sure just because it was like a wish. There's like seven kinds of show, right? Like seven plots. But the. It is. I saw it in a pack theater. I think I saw it maybe must have been opening weekend. And everyone was laughing because. Because there are parts of the fun.
- [94:39]
KFC
Easy laughter.
- [94:40]
John
And there. No, no, no. Like, full laughter. And there were parts where I was like, that one wasn't funny. That one. I was like, you can't laugh at that. Not even. Like, you can't laugh at it. Like, it wasn't a joke. He's. He's experienced that. And that wasn't a joke. He wasn't being funny about that. That. I, like, I was like, like, I was like, that's a little much, ladies. That's because you could hear. You're like, that's full lady laughter.
- [94:59]
KFC
What's up with the girls? I, I think, I think we're normalizing wildly toxic behavior these days. Like every, Every show, doc and movie I watch these days. You did it again. They are all women cyber bullying and terrorizing people. And I was just like, this is just what you guys do, huh? I, I said to John, I said, said, men hit hit women and women terrorize you with the phone. And one of those things you can do out when you're not in the same room.
- [95:27]
Jackie
That wasn't the point. And wait, because there was also, like, feminist. You know, it was kind of like, she wasn't. Whatever. Oh, I actually didn't watch.
- [95:36]
John
I actually thought it was.
- [95:37]
KFC
The thing is, he's dying and his dying wish is to, like, have this girl like him.
- [95:39]
John
No, no, no, no, no. It's a magic thing. But the. I was gonna.
- [95:45]
KFC
It's sexual magic.
- [95:46]
John
It's just magic. Magic. Magic. But the. I did like that, like, like speaking to the feminist thing. Like, in the end, it is his fault. Like, it is 100 him who's choosing to do it. It's 100 him. But the stuff that is happening as like crazy girl stuff is all based in reality type. And you're like, that one's a tactic, that one's attacking. But it is like, it's. It's like sorry for the spoiler a little bit. But like it's not really a spoiler either. You know, he wishes it. It's. It's great.
- [96:15]
KFC
Yeah. I gotta watch that.
- [96:17]
Marty
Yeah.
- [96:18]
KFC
I mean, I'm just so much more.
- [96:19]
John
But you're still. Yeah.
- [96:25]
KFC
What's scary about that? For like when you watch a monster movie, you're like, it might be under my bed.
- [96:30]
John
Yeah.
- [96:30]
KFC
When you have like an obsession boyfriend show and you're scared, I don't know what that means about you because it's like.
- [96:35]
Jackie
It's like she's. There was just that one scene where she was in the corner.
- [96:39]
John
Yeah.
- [96:39]
Jackie
And so now just whenever my light's off, then I think about that. And also I get the. The sleep paralysis.
- [96:46]
John
You get that a lot.
- [96:47]
KFC
So you. You just straight up sleep with the light on, like full on.
- [96:50]
Jackie
Full on. Well, so I slept with the light on the whole week after I watch Obsession. And then every now and then I think about it and then I have to turn on. Or if I get sleep paralysis, I have to wake up and then I can't.
- [97:01]
KFC
How often is the sleep paralysis avenue?
- [97:03]
Jackie
Well, twice a week. But then the rapings happen like once
- [97:07]
KFC
a month the rate you're still getting.
- [97:10]
Jackie
But like, bye, yo.
- [97:13]
KFC
I don't think I've ever heard someone
- [97:14]
John
say the rapings will continue until morale improves.
- [97:22]
KFC
Over to our rapings counter. We have 11 this week. The rapings are continuing all summer long here.
- [97:27]
John
I thought that was a one time thing.
- [97:30]
Jackie
No, I think I was trying to soft launch the rapings. Well, and then they started because it's kind of like when my body's in paralysis. When my body's in paralysis and I obviously go to the worst thing possible and the guy and the ghost, like doesn't. It's like, you know, it's not. I can't see him. I can just kind of feel him.
- [97:54]
KFC
So. So does he throw down or what?
- [97:55]
John
What is that?
- [97:56]
KFC
Can I ask?
- [97:57]
John
Like, does he have any human characters? Characters?
- [98:00]
Jackie
No, no. It's really just a gust. It's really just being raped by a gust of wind.
- [98:04]
KFC
So there's not even like Jackie just sleeps with a fan at night. It's just a fan blowing on her and she's talking about getting raped every night.
- [98:12]
Jackie
I was just kind of like. Anyways, so, so, so that's why it looks like the rapings are not like actually that the rapings.
- [98:20]
John
It's a good thing.
- [98:20]
KFC
This is just like a one off reunion episode. Demonetized algorithm. It's like, what are these talking about?
- [98:29]
Jackie
So I've had a hard time since Obsession,
- [98:33]
KFC
bro. But really, when you like add up, I mean, you guys would certainly know all the movies better than I am. But like, if, if I think about this year of television a lot, man. Bro, I think we're in a little like golden era.
- [98:45]
John
I, I think we. It's just things happen cyclically and every five years, 10 years, things change. And like, like all we've been doing is bitching about how no one goes to movies and blah blah, blah, and Hollywood's dying and yada yada. And like now it's like everyone's like, the movies are back. I don't even think things have changed.
- [99:00]
KFC
They never left you.
- [99:01]
John
It like. I think there's a slight uptick. If you look at like zoom out and look like. I think we're slightly. You think?
- [99:06]
KFC
Even with television though. I think television. There's more television.
- [99:10]
John
I actually, I would.
- [99:11]
KFC
Too much.
- [99:11]
John
I think we're in too much.
- [99:12]
KFC
Yeah, but. But also I say that, but then I'll pick up like a new show or an old show even, and I'm like, no, this shit's good.
- [99:19]
John
Oh, it's not.
- [99:20]
KFC
You know, it's. It's just. But it's too much to consume.
- [99:23]
John
I think they're gonna start making less.
- [99:25]
KFC
No, definitely. I think if anything it's just gonna be more and more and more. I just can't believe how many actors, how many, how much of a budget there is for all these things. Just like so many talented people out there. Good writers, good plots, all that.
- [99:37]
John
And then I was reading today that like New York pre production is back to Covid level. Pre covered levels. LA is the same. Like, I don't know, I think things just kind of.
- [99:47]
KFC
Yeah, but I mean like, like everyone
- [99:49]
John
always thinks it's gonna, it's gonna disappear.
- [99:51]
KFC
No way.
- [99:52]
John
It's been.
- [99:53]
KFC
But I think what's impressive is like okay, Game of Thrones, you know, you circle that on your calendar, you know, some of these like big franchises. But then like Widow's Bay, I never had heard of that. And to me it's like My favorite show of the year, DTF St. Louis was amazing. So it's all those, you know, while you're waiting for your shows to come back, you also have like five or six things to. Margo's got money problems was like kind of weird, but I was like, there was an amazing Nick Offerman performance in there and like some good to talk about. And I was like, that would have not been on my radar at all.
- [100:24]
Marty
Yeah, I thought Beef too was incredible.
- [100:26]
John
I still gotta do it.
- [100:28]
Marty
I, I feel like neck and neck with White Lotus for me.
- [100:30]
KFC
That's insane. I think that's crazy. I, I thought when people were on Beef Stick, I was like, I don't see it at all. So season two, I was kind of
- [100:39]
John
like, I, I didn't, I love Oscar Isaacs. I am gonna do that one.
- [100:42]
Marty
I liked, I liked season two better. A lot of people were big on season one, but I liked it a lot. Interesting. Did you see what happened today in the movie world where that new movie about Chat gbt, Sam Altman.
- [100:55]
John
Yes.
- [100:55]
Marty
That Amazon prime, they, they premiered it or they like screened it. Positive screen testings. And Amazon dropped it because they're doing like a $500 billion deal with Chat GBT.
- [101:04]
John
Yeah.
- [101:05]
KFC
Is the movie negative?
- [101:07]
Marty
Definitely.
- [101:08]
KFC
Like a negative about AI.
- [101:10]
Marty
Yeah, yeah.
- [101:11]
KFC
Right, right. Interesting, interesting.
- [101:13]
Marty
What happens with that one?
- [101:14]
John
Well, but it's like that, that's one thing where like I get why Amazon doesn't want to put it out now, but someone's gonna, the movie's gonna come out still.
- [101:21]
KFC
Absolutely.
- [101:21]
John
I get why Amazon going, well, we just gotta deal with this guy. So like move on. But I, I, I, if no other network picks it up or no other studio picks it up, that would be crazy. But I get Amazon's like, we have
- [101:32]
KFC
business with this guy, we can't just totally torpedo. I watched oh, what was the name? The Burroughs that got canceled on Netflix.
- [101:44]
John
Yeah.
- [101:45]
KFC
And I think it got canceled as much as it just ended. Because if you did watch that show, it did have, it could have just been a wrap up. And I think trying to do like action movie with old people is just like not really the vibe. But that being said, it premiered to like 9 million viewers and then like episode two got like 5 million viewers. And then they were like, by episode three, it really dropped off and it was only doing like 3 million viewers. 3 million people an episode and they're like, yeah, we don't even give you a second shot. I mean it is hard out there. That's probably also, I think a Budget thing and also like, where does the story go? But I. That the bar of like success. Meanwhile, you should have been on Apple. You would have 10 seasons.
- [102:31]
John
That was tougher brothers though, though.
- [102:32]
KFC
Yeah. Right. But I. I mean it was. It really was stranger things, but with adults.
- [102:37]
John
Yeah.
- [102:37]
KFC
So maybe three episodes of that one. Yeah, it was.
- [102:40]
John
I was part of the 3 million. Yeah.
- [102:42]
KFC
A lot of people. But Apple TV.
- [102:46]
Jackie
Does it piss you guys off that when you select something you can't really tell if it's selected? Pisses me the off. And I know that they know that all.
- [102:55]
KFC
All the interfaces bother me. All of them.
- [102:56]
John
And they all. They're the most glaring issues. We like, like, you have to know. This is annoying, bro.
- [103:01]
KFC
My continue watching is just not my continue watching. It's just like I watch this show every night for the last week. Why is it not the first thing? And I gotta like scroll all the way over to find my show and the ones that are at the front. And I'm sure they do this to make you scroll and to keep you on their streaming platforms. I'm sure there's a reason behind it all. But it's all things that piss you off.
- [103:18]
John
Yes.
- [103:18]
KFC
And it's not like, oh, this is a streamlined experience. They're like, we want you to have to surf around and it.
- [103:25]
John
Hulu is the worst. Well, Hulu does. Hulu will do a thing where they go at the end of an episode, there's 30 seconds left in the episode or whatever. But the next episode starts playing in 10 seconds.
- [103:35]
KFC
Yes.
- [103:36]
John
So there's still technically 20 seconds left on that episode. So when you go back to start rewatching, say it's 30 rock or modern Family or something like that.
- [103:44]
Marty
Yeah.
- [103:44]
John
You watch an episode, the next episode starts with those 20 seconds left. And then you gotta rewind it back to the beginning. And what happens when you get to the next episode? You. There's 20 seconds left. You can't just stream again. It's like once I. Once. I'm clearly restarting watching a show.
- [104:00]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [104:01]
KFC
Factory at the front. Yes.
- [104:03]
John
Factory settings all back to zero. It's great.
- [104:05]
KFC
And then the Apple one, there's a couple of them that. It's like you. The way it like highlights your selection is it puts like an underline underneath. It's like it should be like a box around the. Should light up a different color or something. I don't know what of a line means.
- [104:19]
John
Does.
- [104:19]
KFC
Does the line mean I'm at the thing beneath it or above it?
- [104:21]
John
I don't know.
- [104:22]
Jackie
It Takes, it takes me like.
- [104:24]
KFC
Yeah, yeah, it's insane. I, I just use prime now. You notice that everything, everything goes through. How. What is that? How did that.
- [104:32]
Marty
I don't know, it's just like all my subscriptions go through there and I
- [104:34]
KFC
just, they must have paid like a boatload because, because also like I buy
- [104:40]
John
something Sam Altman did.
- [104:41]
KFC
I'm sure it is because like I, I now go to Sam was like,
- [104:44]
John
I got a great idea. We can make everything run through here. Will drop. What's it called?
- [104:49]
KFC
Yeah, I, I go to HBO through Amazon Prime. Now that should not be the case because like it also makes it harder
- [104:55]
Marty
to browse right shows.
- [104:57]
KFC
If I'm hbo, I want you to see all the offerings. But I just go Amazon to HBO and I click the thing and it's like, I don't know, it seems weird to me that it's all kind of under one umbrella now. But, but yeah, I mean there's, there's so much that's been out this year. It's, it's, it's a good time to be a TV watcher.
- [105:13]
John
TV movies. I just watched it again this weekend. Please watch the Christophers. The Christophers is so good.
- [105:21]
KFC
What's that?
- [105:21]
John
It's, it's Michaela Cole and Sir Ian McKellen. And Sir Ian McKellen is like a 90 year old painter. He's a very famous painter. He has a collection called the Christophers. He's never finished it, so his little kids hire Michaela Cole as a forger and they're like, when he dies, why'd
- [105:39]
Jackie
you look at me?
- [105:39]
John
I'm just telling everyone, bringing in on the story.
- [105:43]
Jackie
I didn't know if like I was supposed to. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
- [105:50]
John
And, and so they're like, you finished. You be his assistant and finish these paintings and when he dies, we'll sell them tons of money. And so like the first half is kind of like a heist type movie where it's like her getting everything ready to paint. And then the second half, it's like this, like, what is art? And it's, dude, there. I can tell you the moment this movie gets awesome if you're watching it. When Siri and McKellen dips his fingers into the paint from that next hour,
- [106:16]
KFC
it rips bangs, bangs.
- [106:18]
John
It's really, really, really, really good. I could tell you 10 more movies, but we can move on.
- [106:22]
KFC
I was gonna say, do you, do you feel like you're watching movies differently now that you're doing content like this? Or is it always in you. Yeah, I was gonna say I'm definitely. I know you liked movies, but I feel like, you know, know, it's almost like when you, when you start to cover a sport, like, and you, you know every actor, you know every director, you know the source material, you know, I mean that, like, you drop names and stuff and references that. I'm like, I don't even know what the you're talking about it.
- [106:44]
John
It has come easier to me than
- [106:46]
Marty
I thought it would.
- [106:46]
KFC
Well, like, that's how, you know, I think that it's like, what you should
- [106:48]
John
be doing when people would, like, do like. It always bothered me watching people cover hockey who didn't play hockey. So I'm like, how do they know everything? Like this? I played it. I can, I'm good. Like, I can do all this. And I just, I think I just like movies more and. Yeah, I just care about them enough
- [107:03]
KFC
that, like, I think it's, it's changing your, the way you, like, grade movies, though. Are you, like, are you, like, softer on it because you're like, you know what it takes to me, like, there are times where I feel like an, like again with Game of Thrones, knowing that those people put their heart and soul into it. And I was like, I didn't like that. But when you really dig into it and you appreciate what they do, sometimes you're a little more like, you're not as ready to be. Like, this show sucks.
- [107:26]
John
You know, I've always been with movies and tv, like, like, I'm never that harder. Like, I, I, I, I enjoy it so much. Like, I like it every time.
- [107:34]
KFC
Yeah.
- [107:35]
John
I like everything I watch. I, I have fun. So it's not that, like, Migrating is always like, it was.
- [107:42]
KFC
It goes from pretty good to awesome.
- [107:43]
John
Yeah, it was fine to. It's incredible.
- [107:45]
KFC
Right. What about you?
- [107:47]
Marty
I've gotten a lot lighter, for sure, after, like, doing stuff.
- [107:50]
Jackie
Right.
- [107:50]
KFC
Because, like, you're, when you edit for, like a million hours, it's like. And you know, even if, even if what you just watch was a piece of it, someone also put a million hours into it.
- [107:59]
Marty
I also just, like, know how easy it is. Like when you have so many things going at once for just, like, one thing for it to fall apart. Like, oh, that's why it didn't feel complete or.
- [108:06]
John
Yeah.
- [108:07]
Marty
What didn't land the way that. I know how hard it is. But I still, like, he is much more. He'll find a silver lining in any movie
- [108:15]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
also.
- [108:16]
John
That's my job now. That is my job.
- [108:20]
KFC
Let's talk about this one five minute scene from this two hour clunker.
- [108:23]
John
Yeah. Yeah. They're like, literally I'm like, like, I gotta find something. And then.
- [108:27]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
But that's the kind of.
- [108:28]
KFC
The point is you. Yes, you can always find like something good. But I also think that there's some value in, in being able to be like. That's where like you should do what you do and then. But I'll be the person who's like that.
- [108:39]
John
That movie kind of sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need the honest 100%.
- [108:42]
Marty
Yeah.
- [108:43]
John
The. Yeah, I've definitely seen like, I watch it differently for sure. Like, I, I would walk out of everything 100% two years ago and be like, that was great. I loved it. I had a lot of fun watching it more closely. Now I am, I can see differences in people. Like, I'm like, oh, that guy's not a good actor. And like I, I noticed that now, whereas I kind of didn't.
- [109:05]
KFC
How has the content been in general like the like.
- [109:08]
John
And I'm not talking about people, I just mean like watching a movie.
- [109:10]
Marty
This guy.
- [109:11]
John
Yeah.
- [109:15]
KFC
Have you guys like, what's like the, like the. Almost like the workflow versus like during the podcast days? Like, are you. Do you get up for those episodes more than like by the end of the podcast you're just kind of like, we can do this on our standing on our heads. Whereas, like these are new episodes for you. Are you like worried about it more into it more?
- [109:33]
John
Very worried about it more. Yeah. Like I, I, like I have a.
- [109:37]
KFC
Do you worry about every. All performance? Like, like, like when you posted, you look at the numbers but you're worried about like the content.
- [109:43]
John
Just like, yeah, I just make sure I did everything I could until then. And but like, yeah, in, in the moments leading up to. It's like stand up. Like, it is very much like I kind of feel about to give performance.
- [109:57]
Marty
Yeah.
- [109:57]
John
I have a lot of studying that I, I have to remember.
- [109:59]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Right.
- [110:00]
KFC
Because you do come across as like, you know what you're talking about. Whereas like, even when we did our it's like, all right, I watched your special. I can talk about the jokes you made, but I don't really like know the ins and outs of how you did it. I feel you, you are like diving into how is this movie written and produced? And you know what your methods easier with.
- [110:14]
John
With the setup of the show. Like, yeah, the setup of the show when we were with KFC Radio. It's more like promote your thing which we don't want to spoil. So we can't talk about too much.
- [110:21]
KFC
Right.
- [110:21]
John
And. And then we kind of just shot the. Whereas now it's like we're talking about things that came out 10 years ago.
- [110:26]
KFC
Let's talk about the twist.
- [110:28]
John
Yeah. Yeah. Like, it doesn't have that same. Like, we start with the thing they're promoting, which we kind of usually move on from pretty quick because you can't talk about that. That's what I was saying before.
- [110:37]
KFC
It's hard to do the tv. And maybe that's. Maybe you guys have figured out that. Like. Like I was thinking, you know, maybe the move is you just don't talk about these things when they're on.
- [110:49]
John
Yeah.
- [110:49]
KFC
Maybe like if right now you did a Breaking Bad show and you could spoil everything and you probably could get those guys to come back and talk and you do the Widow's Bay thing five years from now.
- [110:58]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [110:58]
KFC
Maybe that's how that's gotta go.
- [111:00]
John
That was kind of. I mean, we had the idea a couple of different times for different reasons and different things. But then Pavs and I watched Gruden Film Camp and we were like, we can just do this with TV because it is old plays and it's really going now.
- [111:12]
KFC
What's going on in your mind here? Right.
- [111:14]
Jackie
Right.
- [111:15]
KFC
That's a good. I never. I didn't know that that's what you're doing.
- [111:17]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [111:17]
John
It was like. It was very. I forget what the two things we wanted to combine, but one, it was half groomed Film Camp, half something else. And yeah, you did it all things. And people are just more willing to be honest when they're.
- [111:28]
KFC
And there's the nostalgia crushes, man. People just. They just come everywhere from nostalgia. It's. It's because everything.
- [111:35]
John
Every fucking movie has a huge fan base.
- [111:38]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yeah.
- [111:38]
John
And they're just dying to see someone talk about it.
- [111:40]
Jackie
Right.
- [111:40]
John
And like.
- [111:41]
KFC
But like every movie. Every movie, like, it's not just like Star Wars. It's like you can find some niche ass movie and there are people who will watch a podcast on it today.
- [111:49]
John
Dude, I can't. My Instagram's unusable anymore because, like, every time I log on to, it's just people talking about Dennis Quaid. It's all it is. Yeah. Parent Trap has a huge following. People talk about.
- [112:03]
KFC
And when you look at the Rewatch series, like, like the. The Boy Meets World, people all have like a whole second career now.
- [112:08]
John
Yeah.
- [112:08]
KFC
Rewatching their show.
- [112:09]
Jackie
And you guys each watch all the movies that you discuss.
- [112:12]
Marty
He watches probably more of them than me. But the ones I guess I'll watch, we do four. I'll do two of them. He'll do all four. Yeah, yeah.
- [112:19]
John
And then we do a bunch finding those four, too, but.
- [112:22]
KFC
And you're still into it.
- [112:24]
John
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [112:24]
KFC
But you think you're gonna get to a point where you're like, I just want to watch, like, the Bruins tonight, but I gotta watch this movie for this guy.
- [112:30]
John
And it's like, like, six months in. I'm definitely getting more efficient at it. It, like. Like, I know, like. Like the first five guests or whatever.
- [112:38]
KFC
Like, I watched their entire catalog.
- [112:40]
John
Literally every single thing you ever did.
- [112:41]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [112:42]
John
And I'm talking TV shows.
- [112:43]
KFC
Like, yeah, like, guest appearances.
- [112:44]
John
Like, if I watch every single thing you ever did, and now I know I can look at, like, how much time they were in something. Like, we just did Scott Eastwood, and I saw he was in Fury, and I was like, oh, we're definitely gonna talk about that. And I saw briefly in Fury. I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna waste 2 hours re watching Fury. Right scene. Like, right when we did Pelfrey, I bought. I re. I watched must for pel.
- [113:02]
Jackie
Free.
- [113:02]
John
I must have watched 100 hours.
- [113:05]
KFC
But it also. I hate to tell you this because it showed.
- [113:07]
John
Yeah.
- [113:08]
KFC
Like, it does. You do better when you do your job.
- [113:11]
John
It's 100. Like, I was telling my dad about that. I'm like, it made me see how. And it's hard to tell a man who paid for you to fail out of seven colleges. But, like, I was like, I get studying. Yeah, we know.
- [113:23]
KFC
You didn't for a long time. You made that realization at 40 jobs.
- [113:27]
John
But it also, I, I. I found, like, an interesting middle ground because, like, I would say for the last two months, because I've. I've found how much studying helped. I have. Like, I've been like, oh, wow. Like, kind of, like, changed how I did things. I've started, like, taking diligent notes all the time.
- [113:42]
KFC
Then you're prepared. The show's easier.
- [113:45]
John
Like, my life.
- [113:46]
KFC
Oh, interesting.
- [113:47]
John
Like, everything. And that was too much. Like, for the last two months, I've been so stressed and said, I. I just thought, stop doing it all. Because, like, I was like, I don't need to organize every single thought. Like, I still do it for that, but nothing else anymore.
- [113:59]
KFC
Because it was like, yeah, it's like paralysis by analysis.
- [114:02]
John
Sort of like, exactly. There's too much way, way, way.
- [114:04]
Jackie
Like, what else? Like, you were like, just every thought.
- [114:07]
John
Every thought. Show ideas. Movie ideas. We did it last week. Jackie just made her debut.
- [114:14]
KFC
It was the fake debut when you were. What you say, you're like, ladies, can I get a comma, period, comma, joke.
- [114:22]
John
Slayed, man.
- [114:24]
Jackie
Caroline. Caroline wrote that, right?
- [114:25]
KFC
That was good.
- [114:26]
John
Yes.
- [114:26]
KFC
Well, you delivered it well, girl.
- [114:28]
John
Dude, Jackie was.
- [114:30]
KFC
I mean, the glowing reviews. Everybody was saying. Stop saying that.
- [114:35]
Jackie
I did.
- [114:36]
KFC
Yeah, you. The main thing I always think of, because you can work on material and you can even have people help you write it and all that. So that's like a big part of it, but there's ways around that. I think the, like, the biggest thing is if you can deliver it and watching both you guys just dive in and do it and like the. I think the rest comes.
- [114:54]
John
Do you, Jackie?
- [114:55]
KFC
I think the fact you guys are natural right away, off the bat of just being on stage and kind of casual is like a big, big hurdle.
- [115:00]
John
There was a very clear moment when Jackie was doing, like, the, you're reading, like, the script that very largely Tommy and Caroline wrote. Ron helped as well. John Foley. But the. You were, like, reading it and you were stumbling over it, and it was not good. And then there would be times, though, where you would be like, oh, you, you got the joke. So then you would say it.
- [115:21]
Jackie
So clearly.
- [115:22]
John
It was so much confidence, and it was like a 10 out of 10. And that was when I knew I was like, oh, as long as you memorize this, which I knew you were gonna. Yeah, you're gonna crush it.
- [115:30]
Marty
Yeah.
- [115:30]
John
And it was. I'm so. This is a long way of saying your instincts are on point.
- [115:35]
Jackie
Oh, thanks.
- [115:37]
John
All of your, your pauses, your instincts were perfect.
- [115:40]
Jackie
Thanks. I, I. Well, yeah, I think, like, when I practice it, you know, with a hairbrush as a.
- [115:45]
John
Did you.
- [115:46]
Jackie
Whatever. Yeah, exactly. I did a much better job. So that's why I'm kind of like, whatever, but, but no, I was just like, my big thing was I was just like, I have such bad state for try and social anxiety. So, like, having the bomb, like, knowing that everyone's mad at me, I was like, I'm gonna curl up into a little ball and want to die. So I was just happy that I got through it.
- [116:04]
John
Was it more freeing when you, like, kind of. Because it felt like you did accept it. Were you, like, accepting that it wasn't really Jackie?
- [116:10]
Jackie
Well, I was just like, the only thing that got me through it was like, in my head, I was like, I'm not doing stand up comedy. I'm acting as if I were doing right.
- [116:19]
Marty
Cosplay.
- [116:20]
Jackie
Like that and that got me through it, but all together, like, I, I still did want to curl up into like, you know, I didn't, I don't think I would ever want to do actual standup, but I'm so, I was so happy afterwards and so proud of myself for doing that.
- [116:39]
KFC
Cuz like that's, that's most people's absolute legit last fear. Most biggest fear, you know, I mean, you've never given yourself enough credit. I can't tell you, like, you know how often I talk to Bert and he's like legitimately trying to poach you away. He's like always asking me like, what's her deal? Like, is her contract up? Like I would hire her in a second. Like there are people like, I, I think that happens to everybody at barstool because you know, when you're playing, when you're at Barcelona, you're playing in the deep end and the bar is like extremely high. I think that's a good thing because you gotta really, really succeed. But like, it makes you forget that what you are doing is like, pretty impressive. You know, Like, I think a lot of times people are like, well, I'm not the number one franchise and I don't do millions of views, so I like, I stink. And then there's other people out there in other parts of the world who are like, like, that guy's awesome.
- [117:25]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [117:25]
John
Yeah.
- [117:25]
KFC
You know, so you got to remember that I think you're pretty natural at all the, you do.
- [117:30]
Jackie
Oh, wow. Thanks.
- [117:31]
KFC
I, I, I, I don't. Knowing you surprised you. Yeah, knowing like, I know Jackie doesn't think that, but like, you just do this stuff that most people could not just do.
- [117:41]
Jackie
Thank you. Yeah, I'm like trying to think of
- [117:44]
KFC
like a, like, I know you don't know how to produce a podcast. You just did that.
- [117:48]
John
Honestly, you're a very good actor. Yeah, you act out a producer.
- [117:52]
KFC
You acted as, you faked your way into being a producer. Cuz we know you don't do that. You're bad at that. When you started acting in the skits, I was just like, oh, you can just actually act.
- [118:01]
John
Yeah.
- [118:01]
KFC
And then you, now you do, then you start fishbowl, then you do the apartment show, then you're doing standup. Like you just keep adding, I'm not doing stand up. But it's like, I know you're not doing standup, but the next time that they come and say we have this idea to do something on stage that's kind of like stand up, you know you can do it. It.
- [118:17]
Jackie
Yeah. Yeah. I think, like, I just have to figure, like, I'm sure, like everything. I'm not like, great at from the get go, but, like, I'm sure if I, like, actually tried something. Yeah, it takes time, but so now I'm just in my. I'm just trying to, like, try. I'm really trying to. I hate doing tick tocks, but at least, like, I'm just trying to.
- [118:34]
John
Oh, thank you.
- [118:35]
Jackie
I'm just.
- [118:35]
John
What is this baby elbow.
- [118:37]
KFC
Oh, that was the dumbest thing.
- [118:38]
John
What is this baby.
- [118:39]
KFC
That. That was the most made up thing I've ever heard. No, I was just about to say how great Jackie's tic tacs are. That was the worst tick tock of all time.
- [118:45]
Jackie
Really.
- [118:46]
John
300,000 hit us with the view count.
- [118:50]
Jackie
300,000 views. So.
- [118:53]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
But.
- [118:53]
Jackie
But here's the thing was, like, I actually said it knowing that it probably wasn't true. But then I was just like, I'm gonna say this. What?
- [119:01]
John
You're being a troll.
- [119:01]
KFC
She's acting so.
- [119:04]
Jackie
By the way. I don't actually know, but like that. But also. What. What the else is that?
- [119:07]
KFC
I don't know. Just like a grease.
- [119:10]
Jackie
Everybody. Everyone has one.
- [119:11]
John
I don't know this.
- [119:13]
KFC
You have a. Like a crease in your arm, and that's where your elbow used to be when you were a baby.
- [119:18]
Jackie
Okay, but why would that not.
- [119:20]
KFC
She has a really prominent one.
- [119:21]
Jackie
Why would that not make. Wait, roll it up.
- [119:24]
KFC
It's like in kind of. It's like right there usually. Right? It's like in the middle of your
- [119:27]
John
b. I looked for it. I got none.
- [119:28]
KFC
I got you. I don't have it. She has. That's it. You're the only one.
- [119:32]
Jackie
So many people have it. Who?
- [119:33]
Marty
What?
- [119:33]
John
Like, nothing.
- [119:34]
Jackie
Wait, hold on. Okay, bend a little bit more. Friendly. Kind of goes away by the time you're 30.
- [119:40]
John
But she hit. I was like, oh, only people under 30 can hear the sound. Yeah.
- [119:45]
Jackie
No, no, no.
- [119:46]
KFC
You're almost there. You have it on both elbows.
- [119:48]
Jackie
I can't even.
- [119:48]
KFC
Yeah, well, but no, the right is really.
- [119:51]
Jackie
But then what else would that be?
- [119:53]
KFC
And I don't know, there's just like
- [119:55]
John
so many other things.
- [119:57]
KFC
Look at that wrinkle.
- [120:01]
John
What else would that be?
- [120:02]
Jackie
Someone else. And. And. But for the rest, what else. What is it is a crazy concept. Is it a crazy.
- [120:10]
KFC
Have you seen when people say everyone has like a freckle on their forearm?
- [120:13]
Jackie
Oh, everyone.
- [120:14]
KFC
That. That kind of, like, does prove more often true than not. I've never seen this elbow thing. You're making that up.
- [120:20]
John
Freckle on the thigh is just. That's just a lot of area.
- [120:23]
KFC
Yeah, a lot of surface area.
- [120:25]
Jackie
No, no, right here. Right here. Girls all have left thigh. Do you know?
- [120:29]
John
Yeah. On my forearm. What am I looking for?
- [120:31]
KFC
Just like a freckle, like, kind of
- [120:32]
John
in the middle of your forearm, but I don't know if I have one that you're talking about.
- [120:36]
KFC
Yeah, maybe you don't, like, usually. Like, there's like always kind of like one, like in the middle that you just like.
- [120:40]
John
Like that.
- [120:41]
KFC
Like, that's a good example. Like, a lot of people just have, like, one like that.
- [120:45]
Jackie
Okay.
- [120:45]
John
Not me.
- [120:47]
Jackie
Well, also, like, is it a crazy concept for arms to grow?
- [120:51]
Marty
What?
- [120:52]
KFC
No, that's not a crazy concept. I'll tell you what, do you agree
- [120:56]
Jackie
with me that arms grow?
- [120:58]
John
Yes. All right. Yes. You got me so far. Okay.
- [121:01]
Jackie
Okay, okay, okay. So would it be a crazy concept for your skin to move a little bit if your arm grows? What would it be? There's a yes or no question. Would it be a crazy concept for your skin to move a little bit if your arm grows?
- [121:22]
John
No, it would not be.
- [121:23]
Jackie
No, it would not be crazy.
- [121:24]
KFC
I rest my case, your honor.
- [121:28]
John
What's the next one?
- [121:30]
Jackie
So is it possible that your arm grew a little bit and maybe where your elbow was, the skin moved up ever so slightly along with it and you already had wrinkles from it always bending.
- [121:43]
KFC
So she's saying, like, you know, your, your wrinkle, like, is like this as a kid. And then as you grow, your wrinkle, like, moves up here to there.
- [121:50]
John
Okay.
- [121:50]
Jackie
Because you're adding more time. This one's better.
- [121:54]
John
Okay, so I think you just have,
- [121:56]
KFC
like, a scar on your elbow. I love how she flexes every time.
- [122:00]
John
From baby to 26 year old moved an inch.
- [122:03]
Jackie
I don't know why I keep holding the mic.
- [122:06]
John
Speak up, baby.
- [122:09]
KFC
Yeah, yeah.
- [122:10]
Jackie
So right there. Okay. So my, my elbow. I don't, I don't understand the logistics of it either. But, like, would it, you know, they're like, maybe like, my baby. It's there.
- [122:19]
KFC
My baby.
- [122:20]
Jackie
And then, and then Jackie grows. Jackie grows.
- [122:22]
KFC
I am, I am petitioning to change the topic. Yeah, petition.
- [122:29]
John
Jackie grows. Jackie gross. Jackie gross. We did get that once we got that clipper.
- [122:34]
KFC
You know what, it's funny. When I did sports central for a couple weeks, like, you know, I, I, I've done, I've been a guest on a show before, but not for like two straight weeks. You Start to feel like you're. Yeah, I kind of like fell back into my old podcasting, but. But I'm letting them like, dictate the show because it's theirs. And like, they will just like, it's the Knicks. The Knicks are like on the verge of winning. Or like, maybe even like the day the Knicks won. I'm like, here we go. And they start off with like an argument with Clemmer and meek, like 40 minutes. Like, I'm just like, are we gonna keep doing this? And. And there were even times I tried to be like. And I'm thinking, like, you know, I'm thinking, I've done this for a little while. I think I know how shows flow. So, like, whatever. So I'll be like, all right, let's, you know, something like that. And Clement will be like, no, no, no, no. He said,
- [123:19]
John
you guys are great.
- [123:20]
KFC
At one point, as the argument's happening, I look at Marty on the mic, I go, I don't even know how the show works. How do you guys do this? So it's just funny.
- [123:27]
Jackie
Like, do they talk about just sports stuff, like. Or is it also, like, all your
- [123:31]
KFC
sports needs at sports Central, you can get it there. But yeah, I was there for like the Knicks run, but I was like, I'll. I think I'll pop on there more often going forward. But I realized, like, you know, when they want to talk about like the Mets, Reds, I don't want to do that.
- [123:44]
John
Yeah, when there's a.
- [123:46]
KFC
If we get a championship run, I'll be there, boys.
- [123:48]
John
I remember one time we were doing KFC radio, old, old studio here in this office. And we were interviewing Kirk for once for something, and like, he had just come back from a run.
- [123:58]
KFC
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
- [123:58]
John
He was on this TV over here and he was talking about, like, he was like, I mean, what are we gonna do? I gotta talk about, like, like how I think Belichick coached the game.
- [124:07]
KFC
Yeah.
- [124:07]
John
And I remember hearing him say that. I'm like, you can say that. You can say you don't give a. About this.
- [124:16]
KFC
Like, I. I really think I don't
- [124:18]
John
want to talk about that. Like, blew my mind.
- [124:20]
KFC
I think getting older, I. I think. I think getting older is realizing. You can say that.
- [124:29]
John
Yeah. Yeah.
- [124:29]
KFC
And getting older is realizing that. Like, like not being the most die hard sports fan is not like an affront to you as a person.
- [124:37]
John
It's not a career end. Yeah, I like other things too. Right.
- [124:41]
KFC
And I, I mean, I think if you're, if you're betting. And if you have an alma mater in college and if your team's a dynasty, like, all that. But when you especially, like, I just don't have the same hours in the day, you're taking care of kids, you're doing other. There's all this television to watch, all this other type of content to watch. It's like, I am. I'm just not gonna freak out about this, like, regular season baseball game, like, the way I used to. And in the beginning, that feels like, okay, I am no longer a man. I am no longer cool, nobody likes me, blah, blah. And then I think eventually you just realize, like, oh, it's okay. You cannot be a sports freak. And, like, life still goes on.
- [125:15]
Marty
I'm watching the Mets game with my dad. Excuse me. Or the last two nights I was home, though, and the Mets lost both games, and we just won a Knicks championship. We just went. I mean, he's just watching on his phone, just going like this. 8:1. By the way.
- [125:28]
KFC
8, 1.
- [125:30]
Marty
11:1. 11:1. They suck. 11:1.
- [125:32]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Can you believe that?
- [125:33]
KFC
Mikey is 13:1.
- [125:35]
John
I get it. They stink. They stink. Let's enjoy Father's Day. Terrible. I got.
- [125:42]
KFC
I, I, I'm so checked out of baseball. But I. I got dunked on so bad the other day. I. Anytime. I didn't even know the Mets were playing the Phillies. That's. I'm so checked out, I didn't even know the Mets were playing the Phillies. Which is something you had always known.
- [125:54]
John
Yeah.
- [125:54]
KFC
And anytime anything's going on with Philly, I usually get a text message from our buddy Shane Gillis. And it's usually just like, if the Mets. If the Mets are winning, I'll text him and be like, isn't baseball great? And he'll be like, baseball's gay.
- [126:05]
John
Yeah.
- [126:05]
KFC
And then if the Phillies are winning, you know, I don't even watch baseball anymore. And so he sent me a screenshot of the. Of the game 13:1 or whatever. And I was like, all right, we're gonna do these little pictures back and forth, like, all right. And I send a picture of the Knick celebrating the championship. And he's like, like, oh, yeah, those guys are great. They invited me to their after party.
- [126:24]
Marty
Cool.
- [126:26]
KFC
I'll see myself out. I'm gonna go watch the mess get beat by 15 runs. Thanks, man. God damn it. You win that round, Gillis, and every round from here ever.
- [126:41]
Marty
Oh, man.
- [126:43]
KFC
What else we got?
- [126:44]
John
Oh, I got one. I got. I was at dinner the other day, my mom's birthday, and Polly Was telling stories. Polly hasn't told a story in a while. Paul isn't grandma, but Polly's a three time grandma.
- [126:54]
KFC
Yeah.
- [126:55]
John
And so she was telling a story for her birthday dinner about a time. My brother was a bit of a maniac in like high school. Just kind of an asshole. And I guess he had like, he just, he smoked a lot of weed. He was a stoner. And my. He had this like flat roof. Roof outside of his bedroom window that he'd go out on and smoke weed.
- [127:15]
KFC
Hell yeah.
- [127:16]
John
And him and my mom just seems
- [127:19]
KFC
like that's almost like a TV thing. Like I sneak out on my roof and I smoke weed.
- [127:22]
John
Like my mom, who's a hippie but not doesn't like smoke weed or anything like that and, and she like found out about it and she had the idea, or they had the idea together that they were gonna grow weed on the roof. And we were doing construction on our house at the time and my mom was so about it that she went to the construction workers and she was like, this is 15 years ago, long time ago. Weed not legal. Went to the construction workers and was like, hey, me and my 13 year old son, we're thinking about growing weed on that roof. What's the weight? It can handle now. Poly moves weight, mind you. This roof completely visible from the street. As I dinner, I was like.
- [128:09]
KFC
And she was like.
- [128:09]
John
And she said. And they said no, they said it couldn't handle that much weight. And I was like, so what were you gonna do if they said yes? And it was like it'd been the first time she'd been asked the question. And she's like, I thought about that. I guess we were gonna become drug dealers.
- [128:25]
KFC
Have you seen Breaking Bad?
- [128:28]
John
She was like, I hadn't thought about that. I guess, I guess we were going to become drug dealers after that.
- [128:34]
KFC
She's the goat man. She is the best. She's one of the all time mothers. Oh, oh, speaking of mother, have you. Has anybody seen motherly instinct, maternal instinct?
- [128:43]
Jackie
Oh, nobody heard about it.
- [128:45]
KFC
You heard a lot about a lot
- [128:46]
Marty
of good things about it.
- [128:48]
KFC
No, no, no, no. I mean it is good. It is, it's bad for the world.
- [128:53]
Marty
Oh, really?
- [128:54]
KFC
I think this, I think this is the moment that true crime, we've gone too far with the true crime.
- [128:59]
John
Really.
- [128:59]
KFC
Like I genuinely, I don't think this documentary should be in existence. That's how bad it.
- [129:04]
Jackie
People are gonna like try and do that again.
- [129:06]
KFC
I think, I just think it's too much. I don't think that that show needed to be portrayed by like, not just like a true crime doc. That needed to be like, you're. You've tuned into like a thousand ways to die. The most gruesome stories like that. Like you watch on like fox at like 1:00am a.m. one night where it's like, you're tuned in for like Faces of Death. You're gonna watch some up shock value horror type. This felt like a doc. Like it had the same lighting, but it's. It's just like all the other ones where it's like, oh my God, that mom was actually secretly bullying her daughter. Texting. It starts out like that. Which is a bad. Yeah, it's like, oh, she. This woman is.
- [129:49]
John
Which is bad.
- [129:51]
KFC
But there's a lot of docs now that are like, like, it's usually like a wife or a mother who's like secretly cyberbullying while they hide. They pretend that they have cancer or they pretend that. You know what I mean, something that. And it's all delusional and crazy, but it's like, oh, that's just a crazy person. And then this gets so dark that I was like, I. I wish I did not watch it.
- [130:14]
John
Really, it was.
- [130:14]
KFC
I mean, it is not gonna watch it. It's the, the.
- [130:19]
John
The.
- [130:20]
KFC
The cyber bullying female is already triggering enough for me. And then. I mean, can I. I'll just tell you. Yeah, okay.
- [130:29]
John
So can I pause and peer? Yeah, yeah. We were just taking a piss and it reminded me of something. I took this picture at TD Garden at a Bruins game the other day. Not the other day. A couple months ago. I. I went back. These have been the. These have been in the bathroom at TD Garden, I think for like a couple years. I don't understand them at all. I went back in between. I went back during.
- [130:57]
KFC
Clear glass or plastic partition in between the urinals. So it's like, see, you can. Well, so that you can still see other guys. Dicks.
- [131:04]
John
That's what I'm saying. Like, it's like, well, we can't.
- [131:06]
KFC
You don't want to take away that from.
- [131:07]
John
So it's like. So you don't get it.
- [131:10]
KFC
Is that a Covid thing where it's
- [131:12]
John
like, no cocaine, so they can't between it.
- [131:17]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Really?
- [131:18]
Marty
That's my guess. That's my guess.
- [131:20]
John
You can't hide anything. Okay, now let me tell you this.
- [131:22]
KFC
I had a buddy, John's like, I did cocaine. It did not stop me.
- [131:27]
John
Doesn't work so well. But I had a buddy who. His dad was an architect. And he was an architect for New York City bars in New York City clubs and stuff like that. And I was dumb at the time. I was young and we were probably in high school and I was like, oh, they probably want to make sure you like they don't want individual bathrooms
- [131:46]
Marty
and stuff like that.
- [131:46]
John
So you can't do cocaine in them. And he looked at me and went, that's what they want. I was gonna say, so you can do coke.
- [131:52]
KFC
You wanna have the best bathrooms in the city.
- [131:55]
John
They want the people who want to party to come.
- [131:57]
KFC
Yeah.
- [131:57]
John
So they all want individual bathrooms. Oh, that makes sense. And I wonder if TD Gardner would be the same where they would want. But they probably want more of a family environment.
- [132:04]
KFC
I would imagine a little different than a bar.
- [132:06]
John
Gotta make sure the boys can do imagine here, imagine your bar.
- [132:09]
KFC
Bar just sucks. It's like bad food, no TVs, like small, no seats. But your coke. Bathrooms are awesome.
- [132:16]
John
Walks in, shut it down, builds two porta potties. Perfect.
- [132:24]
KFC
That is great. What were we talking about?
- [132:26]
John
Oh, oh.
- [132:27]
KFC
Motherly instinct. Let me, let me just let me. So if the doc starts out. So spoilers, heavy spoilers. If you don't want to, if you're going to watch it stop now. The doc starts out with a woman getting pulled over and she's like I'm in labor, I need to get to the, to the hospital. And there's a baby in her lap with an umbilical cord and it's like blurred out and they do it in such a way where that's pretty quick and you're sort of like, wait, what the fuck happened? And then they just, they go back in time and they start telling the story and at least I, when I was watching it like almost forgot that for a second. I was just sort of like, that was weird. But now we're talking about this woman and how she's lying about everything else and she lies about money. She's like buying her mother in law a hundred thousand dollar car. She's buying like a five million dollar ranch for her husband. And everyone's sort of like she doesn't have the money. We don't know how this is happening. So we quickly go to that. So your brain is just sort of like, okay, this woman's a liar and a manipulator. And then she announces she's pregnant. And they introduced new characters on the doc who were her old friends and they were like, Taylor had a hysterectomy when we were friends with her. Like she cannot get pregnant. So then you're sort of like, oh, wow, this bitch is really lying, you know, and the lies keep piling up. And then the doc starts to catch back up to the beginning flash, like, the beginning scene, you know? So then, as a viewer, as I'm like. I'm thinking about this. The cyber shit and the, you know, lying, and then I'm like, wait a minute. Eventually, this woman has to get a baby. Like, I know where this story's going. They already gave you, like, the spoiler, you know? So I was like, how the fuck does somebody get a newborn baby with an umbilical cord? Like, how do you do that? She's gonna, like, have to break into a fucking hospital. And, like, everybody. She cut the baby out of a chick.
- [134:23]
Jackie
She.
- [134:23]
KFC
She was a. She wanted to be a photographer, and so she linked up with another photographer on, like, Facebook. And this girl was. And then. And the doc shows that family, and they're like, this woman, Reagan was just like, this amazing woman. All she ever wanted to be was a mom and all this. And she drove to that woman's house, and she stabbed her a hundred times. And as she was dying, she said, like, please cut the baby out of me, because, like, the baby's gonna die. So she took the baby out. Out, and then tried to drive to the hospital and say that it was hers. And the only reason the. The. There was a. A clinic.
- [134:58]
Jackie
But she killed her with that intention, right?
- [135:00]
KFC
Yes. Yeah.
- [135:01]
Marty
Yeah.
- [135:01]
KFC
She. Yeah. The plan was always to kill and get the baby, but I guess as it was happening that the woman was like, get the baby out of me. And the. There was a clinic that did, like, her hysterectomy. And so they knew, but they were like, we had HIPAA rules. We can't, like, say anything. But the family was, like, calling around, trying to figure out all the lies. And these clinics kept saying, we can't tell you anything, but go with your gut. Like, you're on to something.
- [135:22]
John
Yeah.
- [135:23]
KFC
And then they said, the only reason. The only time that you can violate HIPAA is if there's, like, danger involved. And they thought they. They alerted the authorities and the hospital, saying, this woman's gonna come try to steal a baby. Like, she's gonna get into, like, your newborn unit and take a baby. So the cops were kind of tipped off, and so they knew, like, they kind of put it all together, and, like, the first thing they do is, like, a nurse and a doctor is, like, an. In inspecting her or examining her, and they're like, this woman did not Give birth.
- [135:49]
John
Like, you know, I imagine that's pretty clear.
- [135:52]
KFC
And she's like covered in blood, but it's not her blood.
- [135:54]
John
Imagine you had a. That wasn't sure got
- [136:00]
KFC
worst.
- [136:02]
John
But she definitely could have, I guess.
- [136:05]
KFC
But the craziest thing was, like, there was a whole dock of worth of people, two, three, four families worth of people, friends. And they all were sort of like, it's not my business. Like, I know she's lying. I know she's crazy, but, like, I'm not going to get involved. There was the grandmother of the woman who like got killed, I guess, had another baby. No, wait, what was it?
- [136:28]
Marty
There was.
- [136:28]
KFC
There was someone who was like, if I speak up on this. Yeah, it was. I guess it was her mother in law, like, knew, but she was like, if, if. If I speak up on this, she'll take away my grandkids. Like, I'll never see my grandkids again and I need to worry about, like, keeping them safe.
- [136:42]
John
Yeah. Yeah.
- [136:43]
KFC
So it was just like all of these reasons of people, like, not saying anything, which I get. I. I'm a person who's like, I stay out of everybody's.
- [136:48]
Marty
Yeah.
- [136:48]
KFC
But it resulted in a girl getting murdered and a baby getting chopped out.
- [136:51]
John
Right.
- [136:51]
KFC
And all you need to do is speak up like, yo, something's going crazy over there, you know? So like, they're victims in their own right, too. This woman, like, Destroyed probably like 35 lives. Like so many families and so many. But I was like, this is not just your, like, murder story or whatever. I was like, like this. I didn't need to see this. I did not need to watch this. That. That felt like, like irresponsible.
- [137:14]
John
Yeah.
- [137:16]
Jackie
Had she not gone to the hospital after, would she have gotten caught?
- [137:20]
KFC
I. I don't know. It's a good question. Like, what was the, the real game plan?
- [137:25]
Jackie
Yes.
- [137:25]
KFC
Chopping the baby out. And then, I mean, also, it was. I was joking. So Josh Wolf made a video about it. And. And I was like, all right, I gotta give it a watch. Because he was like, this is crazy. And then I was watching it and texting him as I was watching. So in the beginning, I was like, yo, this girl rocks.
- [137:40]
Marty
She's the.
- [137:41]
KFC
I wish I had the confidence she had. I wish I had the skills she had. And. And then I was like, oh, the murder party. But when she, she faked her pregnancy, it was straight Costanza. She was faking this pregnancy. She bought a baby bump that moves. Looks like there's kicking. And then it was like 10 months. And she was like, I'm. I'm late. And all the women were like, you don't usually get that late.
- [138:01]
John
Yeah.
- [138:01]
KFC
And then they were like, today is inducement day. Like, we're having the baby. Her house burned down. They're like, we can't go to the hospital. Our house is on fire. A few more weeks, there's another inducement day. Oh, a bomb threat's been called into the hospital. And, like, everybody was like, we know what's going on here. And they just kept going along with it, which is like, I imagine you're married to this woman, and you're like, every night, it's like, she's still faking this pregnancy. I know there's not a baby in there, and you're sitting there watching, like, in Jeopardy together, so. It's insane, man. It was the sickest thing I've ever watched. Do not watch it unless you're a real sick pup. But, yeah, there's just a ton out there. So, so much good to watch. I. I feel like. I feel like people are gonna be happy that we got a little reunion here.
- [138:44]
Jackie
I think so.
- [138:45]
KFC
Like, a lot of people were pumped about. About even just getting one episode.
- [138:48]
John
It was legitimately the first thing I thought of. I was like, oh, my God, like, the first championship since we left.
- [138:53]
KFC
I know.
- [138:56]
John
Unbelievable.
- [138:57]
KFC
But in a weird.
- [138:58]
John
Nothing's been going on in Boston sports, so we didn't miss anything on our end. Maybe.
- [139:02]
KFC
Maybe the tables have turned.
- [139:04]
John
I don't know.
- [139:04]
KFC
Maybe my time. It's my time.
- [139:07]
John
It's not been great in Boston.
- [139:08]
KFC
Yeah. I mean, things are cyclical, like.
- [139:11]
John
Yeah. Yeah.
- [139:12]
KFC
But I also was thinking, how bad would it have been? Imagine if we were like, all right, let's wrap up, like, you know, September 1st or something. If it went, like, another year and then we had, like, this whole championship thing.
- [139:23]
John
Yeah.
- [139:24]
KFC
Throwing a real wrench into all sorts of plans. Numbers probably would have gone back up all of a sudden. We just keep doing the podcast anyway. It would have been good. I don't know. But, yeah, I think people are gonna be excited for a little reunion, so.
- [139:36]
Marty
Or do we make the list of the things.
- [139:38]
Jackie
Oh, yeah.
- [139:39]
Marty
That need to happen for us to do another reunion?
- [139:41]
KFC
Well, no, no, we're gonna do that as. Yeah. So, like.
- [139:44]
John
So I'll hit the group tax.
- [139:45]
KFC
Like, did you see, like, this show came out and did you see this crazy story and this guy's addicted to porn and this guy murdered somebody?
- [139:51]
John
Yeah.
- [139:51]
KFC
Like, bam. 10 we got. And then, you know, we'll have to have some discretion on what really counts as a thing. Because you could do that with a whole bunch of shit.
- [139:59]
John
Yeah.
- [139:59]
KFC
But the fans too. And if the fans are, if there's an overwhelming, like, consensus like, oh, we need the guys to talk about this, then we'll do that.
- [140:05]
John
I actually was just looking at my list of things. One thing I think is a good area to talk about the Samara Weaving laugh.
- [140:12]
Marty
Oh, this was funny.
- [140:14]
John
This is really fun.
- [140:15]
Marty
So we had a clip from Scene Steelers go really viral was Samara Weaving talk about how she has a Harry Potter tattoo, how she hid it from Daniel Radcliffe. And through that clip has like 7 million views. And there are just hundreds of comments being like, this is the way a dude laughs when a hot girl is talking hard.
- [140:32]
KFC
And I left all the laughs in.
- [140:33]
John
He is he get on this clip. Sorry about that. She's got a tattoo jumping out of his ch. It was very, very funny.
- [140:46]
Jackie
It has so many. No, no.
- [140:48]
John
It's an unbelievable story. It's an unbelievable story. But that was just a funny thing.
- [140:53]
KFC
Did he go like this?
- [140:54]
John
No way, dude. No way, dude. He did that exact thing. I love that one. That's when you know you got John. No way.
- [141:05]
Jackie
You're singing like him.
- [141:07]
John
No way. I love that.
- [141:13]
KFC
But that's also like, you know, that's. I can see all those types if you laugh too much or you whatever as you're interviewing. Like, I can see maybe as a viewer that might come across a way in the moment though it makes that
- [141:26]
John
guest feel like, bro, also gotta have
- [141:28]
KFC
your energy up and all that.
- [141:30]
Marty
It was the right.
- [141:31]
John
The first time Samara Weaving is telling me a story about Neil Radcliffe caught her Harry Potter tattoo.
- [141:39]
Jackie
That.
- [141:39]
John
It's an unbelievable story. Yeah. I was. That's no way, dude. I'm locked in on that. I'm reacting to that to get as much out of that story as I can. 100%, absolutely.
- [141:48]
KFC
I, I, I will never. If, if, if you, if your knock against me is like, I'm too animated, energetic, passionate. It's like that, that, that goes all goes back to the like being cool and cringe. Meaning, like everything in the world you want to. Oh, so you got a Harry Potter tattoo.
- [142:04]
John
Dude, that whatever.
- [142:04]
KFC
It's like. No, it's not.
- [142:05]
John
But the, like the, the first five minutes of scene Steelers every time 10 minutes is just me being so excited and just dumping a million things on
- [142:13]
KFC
because it's like, it's like Chris Far like, remember one.
- [142:15]
John
Yeah.
- [142:17]
KFC
Movie.
- [142:17]
John
That was awesome. That was awesome. I settled down a little bit after that. But I was just so excited that. Yeah, I'm very.
- [142:22]
KFC
But that's what I mean. It's like, I. You can really tell that now. That's probably similar to when a sports podcast has on their biggest sports hero. It's like, that really does translate with you guys. So that's. And that's what you want is, like, more, because you want more cinephile movie dorks to come watch.
- [142:39]
John
Yeah. Yeah.
- [142:39]
KFC
That's how you get it is by people being like, holy, this is amazing.
- [142:43]
John
It's so cool. Those are good.
- [142:46]
KFC
You guys have gotten good guesses. I mean, you got. And it unfortunately really does prove that, like, when you pick a lane and you niche down a little bit and you specialize, it's like you're gonna get. Get big names and. And a lot of audience because they just want this one thing. It's like you're doing it.
- [143:02]
John
Yeah. And it's also like, we just. We just genuinely like it. So, like. Yeah, like, it is like, we. We.
- [143:08]
KFC
You wanted, like, it's when the whole thing about the Internet, when you have, like, specialize in one lane when you want to specialize.
- [143:14]
John
Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah.
- [143:16]
KFC
Because then it's like, oh, I can just do this one thing I love over and over again, and it's actually going to benefit me more. Where the problem is, like, when I do it, I'm like, I want to talk about all these. These things, like, a little bit of everything, and that just doesn't work. But if you want to just talk movies and acting, it's like, here we go.
- [143:29]
John
It is like, we. We had the idea, like, early on where it was like, we're not concerned with views or anything like that. It's just make sure they're having fun. And basically, I don't know, we've probably done 10, 12 interviews, something like that. Like, 100 of the time, they walk out like, this is my favorite I've ever done. It's like, no, I just sucked your dick for an hour.
- [143:47]
KFC
I remember when I did that. That Pedro interview, and like, 09, that was like, the first interview I ever did. We just showed him his 10 best highlights.
- [143:53]
John
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm like, yo, yo, this is awesome.
- [143:57]
KFC
And then they go, yeah, it was.
- [144:00]
John
Next clip, literally picking an athlete, bringing in their 10 coolest moments and going, how sick was that? You know what? That was sick. And it's also like, with actors, we were talking about, because everyone cries on the show and. And we were talking about. I Just, we said Murray Bartlett and Murray cried watching Beautiful episode.
- [144:22]
KFC
That episode's unreal.
- [144:22]
John
Yeah, I, I, I was weeping watching that in preparation, and I was like, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna. In front of him. I didn't. I kind of wanted to, to be honest, but whatever John said, they're like, come on, cry. But the. Wait, why was I saying all that?
- [144:37]
KFC
Everybody cries.
- [144:38]
John
Oh, yeah. And so then I got out of that interview, and I was sitting with Gaz, and he. He's gotta go. I went. I was good. He cried.
- [144:44]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
He's good.
- [144:45]
John
Everyone does that. And I was like, yeah, I know. But we've thought about it where it's like, actors are, first of all, very emotional people. And second of all, we're just going, look how far you've made it in your career. Right. How cool.
- [144:56]
KFC
Remember when you started from nothing?
- [144:58]
John
Because it starts. Like, we always have one of their old movies. We always have one of their great movies. And, like, yeah, that's an emotional roller coaster that an emotional person is gonna cry almost every time.
- [145:07]
KFC
And it is. I think it matters that like, like, actors will appreciate that. Like, like, if we sat with some of our comic friends and we're like, remember when you came from nothing?
- [145:16]
John
Yeah.
- [145:17]
KFC
You made it to Madison Square Garden. They'd be like, yeah, that was cool. But actors are gonna be like, yeah, I poured my heart, sweat and tears into this and, like, play along.
- [145:23]
John
Yeah, yeah.
- [145:24]
KFC
You know, make it all dramatic, hype it up. But it's. It's great. I mean, I wonder, do you. I feel like hopefully one day we look back, like, the same way. I remember when, like, part of my takeout on Adam Morrison, like, so early, and I feel like Chris Pratt, for you guys might be a big one, where it was like, I wonder how much that might have impacted early other guests. Like, if Chris Pratt did it, we go.
- [145:42]
John
I would guess a lot, but I think. I think Pelfrey. People always ask me, like, who's your favorite guest so far? And I, I don't think there will ever be a dancer other than Pelford. Yeah.
- [145:51]
KFC
He's the man.
- [145:51]
John
Pelfrey was like. He was just so. It just felt so natural. It was like, okay. Like, there's a lot unknown. When we were, like, I had no idea.
- [146:00]
KFC
I remember thinking, like, I don't know if this interview even makes sense for our show.
- [146:04]
John
Yeah.
- [146:04]
KFC
But, man, he made perfect sense.
- [146:06]
John
He was awesome. He was. And, like, it just felt right where I was like, oh, okay, this is the right thing. And it's Gonna be hard to ever, like, top Pelfrey.
- [146:13]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
But.
- [146:14]
John
But, but like.
- [146:15]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [146:16]
John
I think even Pratt said yes because of healthy.
- [146:18]
KFC
Yeah.
- [146:19]
John
Because at the time, Pelfree's a Emmy winner.
- [146:21]
Jackie
Yep.
- [146:21]
KFC
Task was so such a big deal.
- [146:23]
John
Or Emmy nominee. Emmy winner now.
- [146:25]
KFC
Yep.
- [146:26]
John
Because he won for task, right? No, he didn't.
- [146:27]
Marty
No, he didn't. No.
- [146:28]
John
So he's still an Emmy nominee, but he'd been nominated for Ozark work. But like, that's a big gap. He was. He was literally like the actor of the moment. And for him to say yes to
- [146:36]
KFC
that for a brand new show.
- [146:37]
John
So cool. And he bought it. Like, we've had a hard time getting actors to send their scenes and be like, here's an actor I care about.
- [146:44]
Jackie
Yeah.
- [146:44]
John
Pelfrey was so in.
- [146:46]
KFC
Did his homework and it was Daniel Day Lewis.
- [146:49]
John
It was in the Crucible and he gave like such a great impassioned speech about that. And I was like, this is right. This is like what's going to work.
- [146:55]
KFC
That's awesome.
- [146:55]
Jackie
That was your first one one too, right?
- [146:57]
John
The very first one. Yeah.
- [146:59]
Jackie
Right. Yeah.
- [146:59]
KFC
It was like he came in and did that and scenes. Yes.
- [147:01]
Jackie
Right.
- [147:02]
KFC
Yeah.
- [147:02]
Jackie
Have you noticed anything about like. Like when I help out with it, girl, it's like all the influencers who come in, like, they all have like a very tangible, like star power type thing. Do you notice that? They're like star power or like just normal people?
- [147:16]
John
I would say normal people.
- [147:18]
Jackie
I feel like actors.
- [147:19]
KFC
Yeah.
- [147:19]
John
I would say I'd like to hear your opinion on this as well. But I would say everyone here is stunned by how normal every actor is versus the star power of influencers who come in, like demanding there and stuff like that.
- [147:34]
KFC
Yeah. Because. But actors are also like acting. You know what I mean? Like, like, I think influencers really think they're like, important.
- [147:39]
Jackie
Yeah, Yeah.
- [147:40]
KFC
I have a lot of followers and people like me now. Whereas actors are like, I do this role, I do that role.
- [147:44]
John
I think the opposite. I think the influences are acting. Oh, what I should be doing. Because I'm a star.
- [147:49]
KFC
Okay.
- [147:49]
John
And the big stars are going, I'm a big star. I don't need all this. Yeah.
- [147:52]
KFC
That's probably a better way to put it. It's like real talent and real like passion for what you do versus, like, I'm just doing this cuz I can make money and got followers.
- [148:00]
John
Like, I have to act like this. Cuz that's where it's like, like literally every single sage who does a lot of the handling of the guests Every single time she's like, what a great person. They're so nice, and they're so welcoming and warm, and they're going to be great.
- [148:12]
KFC
It's funny because I feel like you either get one or the other where it's like, you hear of, like, I don't know, know somebody an A lister who's like, my rider. I need the M M's, and then you can't look at me or whatever. There's just two different types of celebrities. I feel like where you either are an or not.
- [148:26]
John
I also think that stuff is just like. I don't think there are many people like that.
- [148:30]
KFC
I think it's very few.
- [148:31]
John
I. I think what ends up happening is like. Is so. So there was an instance with Bert where this is probably in, like, January, I think, and there was a show where someone came into the green room and there was a. There was a lot that had happened. There was a lot, like, a lot of issues with security at the show. And someone just came into the green room and it was like, right after Kirk. It honestly might have been the weekend of Kirk. And. And Bert handled it very, very well, but was like, he was laughing about. It was kind of like, what the fuck, guys? You know, like. Like, there's supposed to be a security guard outside our door, right? Just making sure strangers don't roll into the green room.
- [149:08]
Jackie
Room.
- [149:09]
KFC
And.
- [149:10]
John
And then, like, everyone took it so seriously. And like, from there.
- [149:14]
KFC
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [149:15]
John
I felt the difference from the security guards. I felt them not looking up when I walked by. I felt like they had gotten a message, like, it's time to lock in, right? And I think almost that's what happens. I don't think anyone, any celebrity ever comes in and is like, no one better look at me. I think, like, somebody up and then
- [149:30]
KFC
they yell and it's like, yelled at.
- [149:32]
John
And then everything gets blamed on the celebrity, right? But what happened was some up, and
- [149:37]
KFC
then everyone tightens up. And I also think that, like, there are. It's like a Kanye west might be like, you can't look me in the eye. He's a type of Mariah Carey's, like an insane diva.
- [149:48]
John
The rest of the people are normal right after that. So that happened after the show, and then we're going to dinner. This is Peoria, Illinois. It's midnight in the middle of January, whatever it is. And there's. There's. There's literally nobody around there. It's an empty, empty street. We are going to a steakhouse that is closed on Sundays. Opened just for us. There's nobody around anywhere. But as we're in this car, we have, like, a runner driving us from the arena to the dinner. And we're kind of just laughing about the situation. Like, we're all kind of joking about it. Like, can you believe that, like, guy walked in, blah, blah. And you can see this Midwestern mom who's the runner, like, just using a sweatshirt. She's kind of, like, looking around. And you can hear us because, like, the security. How can security allow something like that? And she's looking. You can seeing her be like, this is on me, right? And she goes, this is my moment. She goes, full Mark Wahlberg. She looks at Bert, she goes, wouldn't have happened if I was there, sir. And we're like.
- [150:41]
KFC
We're like, okay, okay, Susan, calm down.
- [150:45]
John
Not talking about you. And we pull up to the steakhouse, and there's one person maybe halfway down the block smoking a cigarette at. And she goes, don't worry, I'll create a diversion. And she throws it in park, and she jumps out of the car. She goes, no one look this way. No one look this way. Look the other way. The four of us are pulling out of the car, and we're like, like, slowly walking, like, sorry, we didn't tell her to do any of this. And I'm the last one in, and she grabs me by the arm. She goes, if anything goes wrong at dinner, I'll be right here. And I was like, okay, fine. Whatever. Walk in. We're eating dinner. Halfway through dinner, I go out to have a smoke and she's gone. And I was like, I wouldn't have cared, but you grabbed me and we're like, I'll be here. I never would have thought that lady better be outside the whole time.
- [151:32]
Jackie
It's literally Melissa McCarthy's character in Bridesmaids.
- [151:35]
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yeah.
- [151:36]
John
Yes, exactly, that. It was doing, like, reconnaissance. She looked just like that. Funny.
- [151:46]
KFC
Are you going back on the road at all with him?
- [151:48]
John
I don't. I don't know. I don't think so. I know he's off the road now. He's. He's filming Freebird 2 for the summer.
- [151:52]
KFC
What do you think of all this Nate Bargazi?
- [151:55]
John
What do I think of it? I think the movie wasn't very good. I don't know much about more than that. I think he. He kind of just didn't have the right energy for that movie. He kind of. He's. He kind of. He seems a little more mean spirited than I remember. Interesting. And at Least in the movie. Like, it just didn't, it wasn't as goofy dad comedy. It was kind of more like, ugh, this is annoying. And it just didn't, didn't really play. But you mean more for the UFC stuff.
- [152:25]
KFC
Yeah, just like the political, Like, I just saw not a lot, but a few tweets here and there from probably like, you know, left, Left leaning political people being like, didn't expect Nate Bargazi to like, ruin his career this weekend, but here we are. And I'm like, like, I don't think Nate Bargassi ruined his career.
- [152:41]
John
I think the movie was worse for his career than that.
- [152:42]
KFC
That was.
- [152:43]
John
I, I just don't, I think, like, I, at least before the movie, I was like, nate might be the guy who can get a movie.
- [152:49]
KFC
Yeah.
- [152:49]
John
And then it didn't work. So now it's kind of like, oh, okay. Not even. He's that guy.
- [152:52]
KFC
Right. It's a hard guy to be.
- [152:54]
John
It's a hard, hard guy to be.
- [152:55]
KFC
And I'm sure it does find successful enough. Like, it's not like it's a failure, but it's like, you know, I think
- [152:59]
John
these guys do that.
- [153:00]
KFC
Wanting it to be like, super bad
- [153:02]
John
or something like that. Yeah.
- [153:03]
KFC
It's just not the. But I, I, I think what's interesting is like, the native people just forget. It's like neighbor gods. He's like, that's where he grew up.
- [153:12]
John
I don't know what.
- [153:13]
KFC
But he's going to be at those parties and rubbing elbows with those people, baby. Elbows with those people.
- [153:17]
John
He's a conservative Christian from Tennessee. Of course he's, He's. Yeah, that's probably what his politics were. What bothers me is when people pretend it's not political. Don't.
- [153:25]
KFC
Yeah.
- [153:26]
John
Like what? People care that I'm hanging out with Donald Trump.
- [153:29]
KFC
But I kind of think even worse than that is, like, I think he did. I think people know it and they try to hide it and then they
- [153:36]
John
get kind of caught. Yeah.
- [153:37]
KFC
You know what I mean? Like, like, you could go to those parties and be like, post a picture with Donald Trump. You don't for a reason.
- [153:43]
John
Right, Right.
- [153:44]
KFC
But then someone else posts a picture of you and it's a thing, and it's like, oh, so you were kind of. And again, you should be able to go to whatever party you want and do all those things, but don't act like it's not.
- [153:52]
John
That's what bothers me at UFC250.
- [153:55]
KFC
Like, people are gonna say some, and then you have to go out there and be like, shut the up. But you got to do that because that's how the world is.
- [154:01]
John
And if that's how you feel, that's how you feel. But, like, like, I, I, I, I don't. It's been a decade of this. It, It's a political.
- [154:06]
KFC
Everybody pretending.
- [154:08]
John
Yeah, well, this is just you. It's at the White House. It's
- [154:13]
KFC
pretending on the other side.
- [154:14]
John
Pretend you're shocked. It's a thing.
- [154:16]
KFC
And then pretending on the other side of, like, do you genuinely now, like, renounce all things of, of Nate Baratsi because you have this party? Right, or are you just, like, I have to do that because of my political alliances? That's what we do. We renounce them. You know, so it's like, you're lying, he's lying, they're lying. We're all pretending. It just is what it is. No one's right or wrong. Let's just pretend, or let's just be honest about the situation, you know? But I, I do wonder sometimes if it's like, is it worth it to go to those parties? Or then do you feel like, well, I should be able to go to whatever party I want? I don't know. It's when you should. You got a lot to lose.
- [154:47]
John
Forever. You can go to whatever party you want. You gotta answer questions about it afterwards. Right? But like, yeah, absolutely. If you, the president invites you to the White House, really strongly consider going.
- [154:57]
KFC
But don't pretend like you can't believe. Yeah, the motocross outside the White House was crazy.
- [155:02]
John
That was nuts.
- [155:03]
KFC
That was, that was so bad. I almost did. The motocross and the reflection pool are unbelievable.
- [155:09]
John
That it actually was unbelievable. I was thinking with the reflection pool
- [155:13]
KFC
is the giant long pool. And they're trying to make it, like, perfect for the 250th celebration on July 4th, bro. And I just got such a kick out of it because I just opened my pool. And last year I fought my pool all year long. Like, I just couldn't. I put the chlorine in the shock, and I just couldn't ever get it right. And so this year, I had, I had a guy take care of it for me. The guy, the same guy opens my pool. I was also like, can you just stay and vacuum it and clean it?
- [155:37]
Marty
All that.
- [155:38]
KFC
And he got it, like, crystal clear, like, in a second. And. But I'm thinking about, I, I poured so much into my pool, and then there's footage of these guys. The reflection pool is like, like, 1 million gallons of water or something crazy. And they just have, like, a bottle of. Of, like, chlorine. They're like. And there's a shot of this guy. It's like, it looks like a gallon of milk, and he's just pouring it in, and they zoom out of him, and you see how big it is, and it's like. And then the bottom is peeling, and it's. It's just like they've spent, like, $10 million on this pool to make it look pretty.
- [156:12]
John
It's like the perfect.
- [156:15]
Jackie
It's.
- [156:15]
John
Yeah. People lying about what's actually happening, people getting too upset about why the pool. Who cares?
- [156:20]
KFC
Yeah.
- [156:21]
John
Like, this is the perfect example. Like, it is kind of. It's a whole thing. But the.
- [156:25]
Jackie
The.
- [156:26]
John
The motorbike stuff and all. All the UFC stuff, I thought was, like, such a perfect juxtaposition of. Of, I guess, patriotism, where, like, it was the Drake meme, where, like, everything from UFC250, I was like, oh, God, I hate that.
- [156:41]
Marty
Patriotism.
- [156:41]
John
And then everything from World Cup, I was like, rock on. Yeah, because that's real.
- [156:46]
KFC
It's real versus performative. You know, I will say, I think. I think the UFC does the motocross, like, everywhere they go.
- [156:52]
John
I have no idea.
- [156:53]
KFC
I feel like that's part of, like, their weekend. Like, when they have a pay per view, they'll also do. I might be making this up, but I could just see that that's a big crossover. The ven diagram of if you like motocross. So that might be what they do. And they're like, we do. We're doing this at the White House.
- [157:07]
John
Yeah.
- [157:08]
KFC
But I think maybe a little bit of, like, we didn't need Nitro Circus, Travis Pastrada, X Games. But then, flip side, like, I did see Shane being like, that's what made me go. I thought it was pretty cool. So I'm sure there are people. Like, that's awesome.
- [157:21]
John
But it was.
- [157:21]
KFC
Yeah, like, that was. That was like, American politics. This is, like, American people.
- [157:27]
John
Yeah. Right.
- [157:27]
KFC
You know, you're just talking about our food and our cultural culture and our people. Whereas this is, like, look at ours and our government.
- [157:33]
Jackie
That.
- [157:33]
KFC
Yeah. All right, we can wrap it up. I'm sure there's a. I mean, we could keep talking forever, but Podcast has to end eventually. But, yeah, I guess. Let us know. Keep. Keep the. We'll start making the list.
- [157:44]
John
Yeah, we'll make the list. Send in list. If you think. If you think something makes the list.
- [157:48]
Jackie
But I feel like if we could do like, obvious. Like. Like, if. If you, like, get caught in a tornado, like, and, like, almost die like
- [157:56]
John
that Chicago last week.
- [157:58]
KFC
Well, I mean, if he ever gets caught in a tornado and dies, we're doing whole thing.
- [158:05]
John
That's a new career for you guys.
- [158:08]
KFC
What was it? It was, you'll never die in a tornado and you'll never.
- [158:11]
John
Intervention, right?
- [158:12]
KFC
Every part of an intervention.
- [158:13]
Marty
Never die in tornadoes, never be homeless, never be involved in an intervention, never get horny in a rage room, and never, never let anyone see your butthole.
- [158:23]
Jackie
So far.
- [158:25]
John
Well, that's just like I. That's. First of all, that's wrong.
- [158:31]
KFC
We can cross that one.
- [158:32]
Marty
Otherwise.
- [158:32]
John
I remember when I said that I haven't been wrong for a while, but I think that was back when. That was when I used to. I. I would, like, after sex, I get dressed all day.
- [158:44]
KFC
The fact, dude, the fact that this man just read off, you'll never see my butthole. And I immediately went, john gets dressed dainty when after he has sex. Like, that was like, we know entirely too much. I knew exactly that you were gonna do squad, bro.
- [159:00]
John
I used the word dainty because I was like, kevin will remember dainty.
- [159:05]
Jackie
My, like, notes page is still just, like, littered with. It's like, cut butthole section.
- [159:14]
John
What a pod.
- [159:16]
KFC
What a great franchise.
- [159:17]
Jackie
I'll miss you guys.
- [159:19]
KFC
Now, what happens if. What if, like, a million people watch?
- [159:23]
John
I think.
- [159:23]
KFC
I think a million. All right, all right, how about this? This for us and the audience. If this does 1 million views, the podcast resumes. See you guys in. We'll do it quarterly. This will be like once a month. Once every three months. We'll do it. We'll see you guys soon.
- [159:53]
Jackie
Sa.
- [160:18]
KFC
Sam.