The Barstool Beach House Cast Recaps The Final Weekend - Full Episode

Summary

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KFC Radio: The Barstool Beach House Cast Recaps The Final Weekend

Podcast: KFC Radio
Host: Barstool Sports
Episode: The Barstool Beach House Cast Recaps The Final Weekend
Release Date: September 3, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode is a laid-back, deeply reflective recap of Barstool's Beach House month, featuring primary cast and crew members: Una, Tommy, Jackie, and Dante, with Kevin joining segmentally. The group breaks down their experiences throughout the four wild weekends, shares behind-the-scenes stories, and discusses emotional highs and lows, relationships under scrutiny, unexpected bonds, and the strangeness of post-reality TV life. The conversation flows between candid vulnerability, inside jokes, heartfelt goodbyes, and meta-commentary on Internet fame, making it both a cast therapy session and a cultural commentary on reality content.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Sentimental Look Back at The Barstool Beach House

• The cast, notably drained, opens with raw emotions about their departure from the shore. They're collectively surprised by how sad they feel now that it's over.

• Notable Quote:
  “I’m getting pretty sentimental right now, honestly. The ride home... I’m gonna miss it.” — Tommy (02:37)
  “I’m a lot, I’m kind of taken aback how sad I am.” — Una (03:24)

• Dinner on the last night, with everyone giving speeches, is described as the perfect emotional send-off.

• Tommy, the unofficial speech-giver, is praised for being unexpectedly sentimental, with his classic humor making everyone laugh and cry.

2. Emotional Toll & What Reality TV Does to People

• Everyone admits to having at least one emotional breakdown.

• The group agrees there’s a unique “mindfuck” to being constantly filmed, toggling between real feelings and performative moments for a camera.

• Notable Quote:
  “It’s such a mindfuck. Now I’m like, oh, I really, really like him.” — Una (07:29)
  “I flubbed my speech.” — Una (03:18), met with group support.

• Jackie describes crying without being able to pinpoint the origin:
  “So much going on. Not even like pressure, just everything… so overwhelming.” (13:39)

• Dante reflects on being older and feeling “wicked sad” to leave while reminding himself he wants to settle down.

3. Relationships Under the Microscope

Tommy & Ella

• Tommy discusses his unexpected “crush” on Ella and what it taught him about vulnerability, dating, and “feeling something” again.
• The pace and pressures of on-camera romance led to some unfulfilled connections, with the cast speculating Ella may have been overwhelmed by Internet/public scrutiny.

Jackie & Danny (“Janny”)

• Jackie describes being paired as “the parents” of the group, with Danny providing comic sweetness, and the relationship warming hearts.
• Notable Moment:
  “It’s so hot when he’s comforting.” — Una (08:33)
  “Jackie was like, I’m crying, Jackie’s getting wet ‘cause of how nice he’s being to me.” — Kevin/Jackie (08:38)

Nikki & Annika (“Nikka”)

• The cast hotly debates whether Nikki and Annika will ever get back together, with Dante adamant that Nikki will someday get his act together, while others think they're destined for perpetual friend status.
• Debate Highlight:
  “She’s exactly what Nikki needs.” — Dante (15:20)
  “But not what she needs.” — Jackie (15:28)

The Difficulty of Real Relationships on Reality TV

• The cast explores whether relationships formed/broken on the show are “real”, and how hard public scrutiny/critiques make things.
• “You literally have a third person listening on everything and then broadcasting it out to all these strangers to critique...” — Dante (22:51)

4. Post-Beach House Reflections and Adjustments

• Everyone notes how odd it will be to go back to regular bars and city life without cameras or special treatment.
• The cast jokes about missing their faux-celebrity perks: skipping lines, free drinks, having things comped, and instant social status.
• “I'm gonna just start live streaming my entire life.” — Tommy (46:49)

5. Job Security, Barstool Futures, and Intern Struggles

• Una and Jackie discuss future roles, with Jackie sharing the challenge of post-summer uncertainty: no permanent job yet, forced to try various social and content avenues, and learning not to pigeonhole herself.
• Notable Quote:
  “I actually feel a little bit relieved that I don’t have to, like, pick a thing right now.” — Jackie (27:39)
• Dante encourages trying everything at Barstool to find the best fit.

6. Blackout Tour vs. Beach House—Generational Partying

• Dante compares the infamous Barstool “Blackout Tour” to the Beach House:
  “Blackout Tour was more of a war… This was way more fun.” — Dante (29:10)
• Lighthearted self-deprecation about being required to drink constantly and “limping to the finish.”
• “Our biggest problem was, like, we just have to keep drinking.” — Tommy (29:31)

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Cast Camaraderie, Personal Growth & Vulnerability

1. Who Surprised You?

• Multiple cast members say Dante was the breakout star, unexpectedly genuine, mature, and supportive.

• Notable Quote:
  “It’s very clear that you’re like, you know, an adult in a good way… raised well. You were raised well.” — Una/Jackie (33:39)

• Dante reciprocates: “There was nobody there I was like, I wouldn’t like this person outside of this.” (34:25)

• Ella also singled out as someone who is much more emotionally mature than first meets the eye.

• The entire cast comments on how rare it was to have a group of intense personalities all genuinely get along.

2. Drinking, Blackouts, and Physical Tolls

• The challenge of constant drinking—some commit to a “sober October” or reflecting on their limits.
• Reflecting on watching themselves drunk on camera:
  “It’s cringe city.” — Dante (41:34)

3. Life Lessons & The Challenge of Internet Criticism

• The candid mental health cost is clear. Several members mention learning to separate their online self from reality.
• Quote:
  “Now I actually am like, stop spiraling, stop worrying about comments. That’s the win.” — Una (117:41)

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Reality TV Mechanics & Industry Insights

1. Production & Crew Praise

• High praise for Barstool’s crew, long hours, and willingness to film everything:
  “They are in your face every second, recording every second… If I had to record people playing Beirut, I would blow my brains out.” — Dante (62:06)

2. The Need for Games and Structure

• Una suggests: For future seasons, Love Island-style games (“Most likely to…”) would create more organic drama.
• Notable Quote:
  “Rather than just relying on drinking to be the entertainment.” — Una (73:02)

3. Real-Time, Unedited Content

• Kevin and Dante discuss the innovation of real-time content, barely edited, and how that changes reality TV compared to shows like Love Island (slow turnaround), referencing how “live” coverage elicits more authenticity, messes, and vulnerability.

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Jersey Shore Life & Local Flavor

1. Favorite Bars, Venues, and Neighborhoods

• Kevin and Dante reminisce about clubs and bars: Osprey, Parker House, Martel’s, Manasquan, Brielle, Leggetts, and more.
• Local culture: Learning the “Benny” term for New Yorkers down the shore.
• The cast never got to visit the legendary Parker House, which is described as a can’t-miss experience.

2. Day Parties, Cove Tie-Up, and Boat Culture

• Unforgettable scenes of hundreds of boats tied up at sandbars, floating pizza boats, and grilling on the water.

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Internet Culture, Generational Gaps & Social Media Realities

1. Generational Slang & 'Old Guy' Vibes

• Classic 'old vs young' banter:
  • "What did you hear that you were most confused by, slang-wise?"
    “I can’t. I don’t even know how to pronounce it. Like the whole chuz, chaz, or chuds…” — Dante (98:21)
• Recognition that social media movements have made both casual human connection and being “the same” with strangers more fraught.

2. The Impact of Being Perpetually Filmed

• Adjustment to not being filmed and its psychological influence.
• “You can’t even tell what’s real anymore.” — Tommy (23:28)
• Discussion of how the “reality show brain” recalibrates real life after months in the limelight.

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Relationships, Dating Apps, and Shifting Gender Dynamics

1. How Dating App Culture Shapes Socializing

• Dante: Shocked that young guys no longer approach women at bars; everything is DMs post-bars.
• Kevin laments the death of meeting people in person, and blames dating apps/social media for making “shooting your shot” obsolete.
• Una, echoing influencer advice, says “it’s all aura”; attitude and openness are more important now than looks in getting approached.

2. Women Reaching Out More

• “I feel like the girls would come up to like, Tommy and whatever… they weren’t afraid, like, of the cameras.” — Una (126:22)
• Cast agrees the current environment is much less about chance and more performative, mediated through screens or social media clout.

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Notable Quotes & Funniest Moments

The "Janny" Moment

“It’s so hot when he’s comforting.” — Una (08:33)

Cast Camaraderie

“It’s very clear you were raised well.” — Jackie (33:46)

Filming Everything

“You literally have a third person listening on everything and then broadcasting it out to all these strangers to critique. Think about that. That is, like, demented...” — Dante (22:51)

Post-Show Realizations

“I’m gonna just start live streaming my entire life.” — Tommy (46:49)

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Key Timestamps

• [02:37] – Tommy gets sentimental about the end of the Beach House
• [03:14] – Dinner speeches, group camaraderie
• [04:19] – Early struggles, powering through reality TV pressures
• [07:29] – Una discusses stressing over what’s real vs. performative
• [13:39] – Jackie on the emotional overwhelm and crying for unclear reasons
• [15:11] – Debate on whether Nikki and Annika will ever work out
• [21:18] – Who surprised you most? Dante emerges as the breakout star
• [22:51] – Impact of being filmed on real relationships
• [29:10] – Blackout Tour vs. Beach House
• [33:39] – Group praise for Dante, “the good adult”
• [41:34] – Dante describes “cringe city” re-watching himself drunk
• [73:02] – Una: games for next season, like Love Island
• [98:21] – Old-vs-young lingo confusion

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Final Reflections & Takeaways

The episode is both an unfiltered therapy session and a curtain-pull on the making of reality content. The cast’s post-mortem exposes the oddness of constant surveillance, nuances of “real” vs. “for show” relationships, and the profound bonds formed under uniquely vulnerable circumstances. Despite pervasive exhaustion, the group feels pride, nostalgia, and gratitude for having survived— and even thrived— together.

Closing Thought:
“We actually got lucky with, like, a perfect 10 people… I think it was pretty special.” — Jackie (52:44)

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For Barstool fans and newcomers alike, this Beach House wrap-up is a fascinating, emotional, and often hilarious deep-dive into the nitty-gritty of living content for the Internet.

Transcript

[Kevin]

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[Jackie]

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[Kevin]

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[Jackie]

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[Tommy]

I think it's gonna be weird. Like, the first time I go out to a bar in New York.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Tommy]

And nobody's recording. I'm like, wait a minute.

[Kevin]

Where the.

[Tommy]

Where's my security team?

[Una]

All right, I guess I'll.

[Tommy]

You're the host.

[Una]

Just. Yeah, I guess I'm thick. Kevin, today. We just literally got back from the shore, like, 20 minutes ago, and we're all kind of dead right now. Kevin and John are supposed to be in tomorrow, but Una and Tommy cannot be in tomorrow. And then Dante was here, so I figured the good producer in me said we should do at least 20 minutes. I almost bailed on this, but then Tommy Was like, no, it probably is a good idea, but. Final thoughts on the shore.

[Tommy]

I'm getting pretty sentimental right now, honestly. That ride home, like, I'm. I'm gonna miss it.

[Kevin]

It was.

[Jackie]

I don't think it's hit me that we're not going back.

[Tommy]

It was a wild four weekends, really. But, you know, it was fun, obviously. Like, it was good getting to know everybody and, you know, I want to just scroll back through pictures and maybe tear up a little.

[Una]

Don't you say the same? Or you could be sentimental.

[Dante]

Oh, I'm wicked sad.

[Una]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Dante]

I was thinking about it last week when we left the house. I was like, man, next week we're gonna leave this place for the final time and it's gonna be sad.

[Una]

Dinner last night was like, the perfect end.

[Jackie]

Everyone's speeches were so good. I was like, oh, yeah, we all work at a media company, so we, like, kind of know how to talk.

[Una]

I flubbed my speech. Oh, you did him.

[Jackie]

I mean, I feel the same way.

[Dante]

But they were all so good. Seriously.

[Una]

Yeah. That was really. I know. I'm a lot. I'm kind of taken aback how sad I am.

[Dante]

Tommy's might have been the best.

[Una]

Tommy's was for sure the best.

[Jackie]

Who's the guy who made us all do the speeches? Probably the one who it was.

[Tommy]

No, I literally was just like, I'm gonna do. I was like, I might want to give a speech tomorrow night. And then everyone was like, oh, we gotta all do them. So.

[Una]

Yeah, I. I love.

[Jackie]

I definitely didn't say that, but it's.

[Tommy]

Almost like a party trick. People just asked me to give speech. Like, at this point, like, there was one time last. It was a couple summers ago, like, for Ria's birthday, we were on the shore and I had to give a four minutes or three minute speech about Ri. And I couldn't mention Marty the entire time. And I brought her to goddamn tears.

[Una]

Can you. If you end up coming to my birthday party on Friday, can you give me a speech?

[Tommy]

Let's. Let's not push it.

[Dante]

But maybe.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Dante]

I don't.

[Una]

I feel like that would kill the vibe. Let's not do that. But, yeah, I'm a little taken back at how sad I am. That was really fun. Especially because first weekend back, I seriously was like, I just need to get through this month. Like, I was not having a good time.

[Jackie]

Same. I, like, almost didn't finish. Like, I literally almost didn't do the rest of it when Dave called me and was like, you cannot do It. I was like, that's kind of a good idea to not do it, but, like, I'm so glad I did it.

[Una]

I'm very happy that you powered through it. I regret it. Tommy, how do you feel? We just came back from roan.com and roan definitely didn't go easy on you.

[Jackie]

You're so Kevin right now.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I mean, listen, he. I, like, me and Ella were like a big story of the weekend, so I knew. I knew I was going to be getting pressed, but, you know, I think I. I hopefully handled it pretty well. I would say on the show, I meant everything I said, you know, like, obviously I went. I went into the trip, you know, I'm just probably gonna, you know, hook up with random girls. And then towards the end of last weekend, last weekend, I think Manella were vibing a little bit and, you know, it didn't end up happening, but, you know, it was. It was nice to. It's probably the first time I've actually, like, had a, like, I mean, crush on, so elementary school. But, like, I've almost been wondering in my real life where I was like, you know, maybe what's wrong with me?

[Kevin]

Like, I.

[Tommy]

Why do I never like these girls I go out with? Like, what. What's going on? So it was nice to. To be like, all right, you know, I'm.

[Kevin]

I'm.

[Tommy]

I'm able to. I'm able to feel something.

[Una]

Something again. But if you don't mind me asking, like, what about her? Do you.

[Kevin]

I don't know.

[Tommy]

What do you like about Danny?

[Dante]

Like it.

[Tommy]

You know, I like her vibe. I think she's fun. I think we just get. Get along well. I think we're different energies, but have similar, like, values probably.

[Jackie]

Do you think part of the reason you never like girls you go out with is because you meet them, like, at the bar and then you hook up? So there's not that much to like. Yeah, because, like, I never. I was saying around also, like, I never go home with guys I meet at bars because I don't like them. And I only like hooking up with people I actually like. So, like, it kind of makes. I don't think. I think it makes sense that you don't like.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I think when you just spent, like, like I base. I think I was afraid how it sounds like the number of girls that I've gone on exactly, like, two dates with is almost zero. Like, I'll either go on one date with a girl and it's like, nope, or I'll like, It's like, all right, I like her, I'll date her for like a few months. But I should probably get better at the, you know, feel it out a little bit instead of canceling it immediately.

[Dante]

I don't know, I. I think, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[Jackie]

I agree.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I know, but I think sometimes you. You maybe don't get to know a full person on a two hour date. So it's like, maybe.

[Jackie]

But also after a two hour date, if you don't want to go on a second date, I feel like. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think that's fine. You, I think you, you like, shoot more than other people. You know, like, you probably go on way more first dates than I do, which is why you probably have way less second dates.

[Una]

Yeah. I also feel like it sounds. But I feel like it's like if you know you. When you know, you know.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

I think if you and Ella had more weekends, there'd be a chance.

[Jackie]

I agree.

[Una]

Because I feel like there's like that period of like, it's so weird what we're thrown into and like it's inevitable that she's gonna go through like a freak out type.

[Kevin]

Like, what is this?

[Dante]

That? And if you guys didn't have a thousand strangers tweeting like up.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

I think she just got rattled. I feel I would have gotten the.

[Jackie]

Same way as her.

[Dante]

I mean, I feel bad.

[Jackie]

Kind of a miracle that you and Danny like made it through the fire.

[Tommy]

Like it took you guys a couple weekends to like.

[Jackie]

No, but you know what I mean.

[Kevin]

Right?

[Una]

Well, I. I was gonna say like I. I had a full.

[Kevin]

Like.

[Una]

I mean, I cried on KFC radio. Like I. And I. And I freaked out. I was kind of like, I don't know. Cuz I couldn't tell for the life of me, like what was real and what wasn't. And like. Cuz like almost like in front of the cameras, that feels fake. And then I'd be like off camera, I'd be like, oh wait, no, this is real. I do really like him. And it would go back and forth and then it was just like, am I doing this for. I was. It's such a mind. But like now I actually am like, oh, I really, really like him.

[Dante]

Yeah. I don't know how you guys do it.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Honestly, last night, like, honestly, like I like you and Danny together so much. I know you don't need to hear another person say that. But like last night I was super emotional in Our room. Probably because I was like hammered and like, the two of them just wanted to go to sleep. I know. They just wanted.

[Tommy]

I'm never gonna get to listen to them have sex again.

[Kevin]

Yeah. No.

[Dante]

No.

[Kevin]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie]

Jesus Christ.

[Kevin]

Not.

[Jackie]

I wasn't emotional with them, but I mean, I was emotional.

[Una]

Wait.

[Jackie]

I was emotional about, like, other stuff, like, whatever, but Danny and Jackie were literally my parents. In the. In the bed over. It was so sweet. Like, Danny was being like, just as comforting as you. He's like, seriously the best.

[Una]

It's so hot when he's comforting.

[Kevin]

I think it's. Seriously.

[Jackie]

Jackie was like, I'm like crying. Jackie's getting wet.

[Kevin]

Cuz of how nice he's being to me.

[Una]

But you were champ. Sorry. Thank you for like, letting him sleep.

[Jackie]

I don't. There was a couple times where I caught up in the middle and then I impinged his nose to get him to stop snoring and I felt like I was trying to kill him.

[Una]

Oh my God. Wife. I saw you standing over on his picture.

[Tommy]

You were doing that today in the middle of the night?

[Jackie]

No, it happened. I think it happened. It. I think I only did it once. I. I joked about it. I was like, danny, your snoring is really bad. And to get someone to stop snoring, you just pinch their nose for a second and then they start breathing through their mouth.

[Tommy]

Interesting.

[Jackie]

And so the other. It was like 4am or something and he was like, like crazy, crazy, crazy loud snoring. And I had to pee anyway, so I went to pee and then I came in. Back in the room for a second, he was still doing it and I was at a crossroads and I was like, all right, really quick. And it worked wonders.

[Una]

Oh, God, you're a champ. Sorry.

[Jackie]

That was fine.

[Una]

Are you gonna text the girl from the bar?

[Kevin]

You are.

[Jackie]

You liked her that much?

[Dante]

Yeah, she was. She was awesome.

[Una]

She was really.

[Jackie]

Oh, I didn't know. It was like.

[Dante]

Do you like, talk to her a little bit.

[Jackie]

When did you meet her again? Which night did you meet her?

[Dante]

The first time we went there.

[Jackie]

To Bare?

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So like last week.

[Dante]

Last week.

[Jackie]

And you got her number then or.

[Kevin]

You got a number this time this week?

[Jackie]

Got it.

[Dante]

We went back.

[Una]

What about the other girl that you brought back? Are you gonna talk to her again, you think?

[Dante]

I don't know. I mean, it's.

[Una]

What is your dating life normally? Wow. I really feel like.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I was gonna say you're brushing the age here.

[Dante]

Pretty non existent. Not gonna lie. It's tough Like, I was joking around about it a couple weeks ago. It's either extremely young girls, like, like 22. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That came out wrong.

[Jackie]

I'm making the clips for this episode.

[Kevin]

Tomorrow and that will be one of them.

[Dante]

I mean, the girls that seem interested in me.

[Kevin]

Gotcha.

[Dante]

Or are either extremely young also.

[Jackie]

Can we just like, be very specific about 22?

[Dante]

Like 22. Like, I don't know.

[Tommy]

How old are you?

[Dante]

20. 22.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

So like very young. Or they're like pushing 60 and there's.

[Tommy]

No, like a 34 year old.

[Dante]

There's like no in between.

[Jackie]

How old are you again?

[Dante]

41. The older women, dude, the older women in Florida are. You might never have to work again. If you went down there.

[Kevin]

You would be Excuses, dude.

[Dante]

You would be snatched up so fast by some, like, sugar mama.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah.

[Tommy]

I thought you were gonna say it's like a male prostitute.

[Jackie]

You would never have to work again.

[Dante]

Yeah, I'm serious. Like, these old divorced, like, women that are just trying to light their fire again. They're out everywhere, like drinking impacts and they are like.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I don't know if that's exactly what I'm looking for.

[Dante]

No, I'm not either. I'm just. I'm just saying.

[Una]

Didn't you guys say that you like, like milfs at one point? No. Did I make that?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I never said that.

[Una]

You only advice.

[Tommy]

I don't, I don't like. I. I don't really. I haven't really dated many, like, older girls usually. Most girls I date are like, around my age.

[Jackie]

Have you ever dated, like, what's the oldest person you've dated in terms of how much. How many years older than you at the time?

[Tommy]

A couple years. Probably nothing like, crazy.

[Una]

Should we go around, say, our favorite memories? I don't know.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Una]

Or any other.

[Jackie]

Should we do rose porn?

[Una]

I guess, like Dante, do you. I feel like you were kind of like, not break up. I mean, breakout star a little bit. Like everyone really. You carried us to the end there. Do you and. But you say that you don't want to do it again.

[Jackie]

That made me so sad.

[Una]

I feel like everyone, like, loved you so much throughout all this.

[Dante]

It was just a lot for where I'm at in life. Like, I was, I was talking to you guys when the Chicago people left. Like, I gotta get serious about my life here. I'm not. I'm not 25 anymore. I need to, like, start a family. I wanna. I don't want to be like, the 60 year old dad at literally games and. And everyone thinks I'm the grandfather. No offense to those dads out there at all, but.

[Una]

And you for sure were like, what?

[Dante]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Kevin]

How much was this?

[Tommy]

I feel like if you find like a girl or a girlfriend in the next year, you're obviously not going to do this reality show.

[Jackie]

But if it rolls around and you don't have a girlfriend, it's like. Doesn't really.

[Una]

Four.

[Jackie]

What's four weeks?

[Dante]

Yeah, I mean, maybe. I mean, honestly, it was so fun. Like, I know you got. I'm preaching to the choir. You guys agreed.

[Una]

But yeah, it was fun, but it was like. I mean, I feel like we keep saying this. It sounds like crybabies or nothing, but like it was kind of like emotionally draining.

[Dante]

Oh, yeah.

[Una]

Like, obviously we signed up for it, but we didn't sign up to like be completely cool with it or not to like, deal with it. Well, I guess.

[Dante]

Yeah, it's true.

[Jackie]

I said I would do it. I did not say I would handle myself.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

I didn't say I wouldn't have a breakdown.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I also, like, a lot of times I like, last night I cried in the room again. It's like I don't even. People like, why are you sad? It's like I don't even know why I'm crying. I'm just so tired of like everything. You know what I mean? It's not like I can't even pinpoint it when I get emotional these days because there's so much going on. Like, so much. Not even like pressure, but just everything is so overwhelming. I can't even pinpoint why I get upset anymore when I get upset, which is not the best feeling.

[Una]

No, I totally get that. Did you feel that at all?

[Dante]

You Not. I mean, same but different. Like second week, somebody sent my mom a clip of me doing funnels and she was like, not happy. She sent me a message and was just like, what the hell are you doing with your life? Like, grow up, get your together. And I was just.

[Jackie]

I can imagine that might be a little dark, dude.

[Dante]

I felt like such a piece of. And then she sent me because Italian son sent me an apology like two hours later and was like, I'm so sorry. I was. I should never said that. I feel awful. But damage was done. So it was like stuff like that. And like, you guys were talking with Roan today about the Annika. Annika is so impressive, by the way.

[Tommy]

She's so emotionally intelligent.

[Jackie]

She really is. It's amazing.

[Dante]

Like, and they joke around, like, you know, they're not a fit for each other and they would never end up. They're the perfect fit for you.

[Jackie]

No, I so disagree with that.

[Tommy]

You disagree?

[Dante]

I don't.

[Jackie]

I disagree.

[Dante]

I don't think just because they're cute.

[Jackie]

And get along well and have great chemistry doesn't mean they're.

[Tommy]

No, those are major, major assets.

[Dante]

She is exactly what Nikki needs. Like, exactly.

[Jackie]

Yes, she's what he needs.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Cannot say the other way around.

[Una]

Yeah, exactly. Like, I think, like.

[Tommy]

But I do think that, like, Hill is much as, like, I feel like Nicky Smokes is one of those guys where it's like, once you meet him, you have very different. Or you spend time with him, you have very different impression. Like, I think it's easy from the outside or not. I'm like, well, that guy's a douchebag. But, like, he is. Like, yeah, he's deep down, like, he means well.

[Jackie]

I didn't mean. I disagree as in, like, oh, he sucks. I just mean I don't think they're perfect for each other. Like, I think he's a great guy. I didn't mean that as a. I literally didn't mean that as a diss to him. I just think. I don't know. I think, like, he was saying on road himself, like, he's much more affectionate and, like, clingy than she is. And I think. I don't know. I think it's rare also. Just, I was thinking about. I feel like it's really rare that the guy is the one that's like, that in the relationship with. Which is interesting, but, like, side note, I think he's a great guy. I just see. See how frustrated she can get with him so easily. And, like, it just seems like that could not be sustainable. It seems like they'd both be unhappy eventually.

[Una]

I said this on Fishbowl, but, like, I think that they almost, like. Or one thing that helps, like, me get over guys is sometimes, like, looking at the relationship and being like, oh, I appreciate that relationship. Like, I acknowledge that it's a relationship. There's not a romantic one. Like, they both are, like, great friends. They, like, came up with each other. They, like, basically had a reality show built around them. Like, the relationship will. They're forever going to be, like, tied and linked to each other. And they have a great relationship. It's just not a romantic one.

[Tommy]

I think they'll always, like, have love for each other, but I don't know if they'll end up Back in love.

[Una]

Yeah. And I think.

[Dante]

I totally disagree.

[Jackie]

You think they're going to end? I mean, you're the wise.

[Dante]

I think he will get his shit together eventually. I don't know how long it's gonna take. I just hope he doesn't figure out the hard way how good of a girl he has, because I don't want him to screw up again and her to throw up her hands and say, peace out, and then go find another guy who does appreciate her.

[Jackie]

I think if they're gonna end up together, though, like, she has, they're gonna be with someone else first because. You know what I mean?

[Kevin]

I don't.

[Jackie]

I don't. If they ever get back together, I don't think it's gonna be like in the next year or like three years. Like, I think if they end up back together, like, it's gonna be because she is with someone else or he's someone else and they realize it's like, oh, no, that was like, special.

[Dante]

I don't know. I feel like he's like, realizes he has gotten a second chance and he doesn't want to screw it up.

[Jackie]

I don't even.

[Tommy]

I don't think he thinks he is.

[Jackie]

I don't think so.

[Tommy]

I think that because Anakin's been like, we're not gonna get back together.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Una]

That's unfortunately one where it's like, kind of like what you're saying. Like, the only way to get over that relationship for both of them is just to find someone new. And I think they're gonna keep going back.

[Tommy]

They'll definitely, like, end up with a new boyfriend and girlfriend, then cheat on the new ones with each other.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Like, they'll have one of those toxic nights where, like, they end up seeing each other.

[Jackie]

Prescription.

[Una]

I don't think. I feel like Annika's like, I don't.

[Jackie]

Think she's a cheap.

[Tommy]

No, I don't think either of them, like, I actually don't think either of them are cheaters, but I think that they will have those on again, off again, like, where they're like, all right, well, maybe we just broke up with your boyfriend.

[Una]

I do wonder a little bit, like.

[Jackie]

Has Nikki had a girlfriend? Oh, yeah. He had like a long term girlfriend. Right. I was just wondering, like, if he's like that in every relationship he's in because he's so obsessed with her and they're not even together and he's so obsessed with their talks about how he wishes he could be with her. And I just wonder if he's like that, you know?

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Every girl he meets.

[Una]

Yeah, I would be curious. I don't know. I can't tell.

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[Una]

Sorry hosting don't apologize for who surprised you the most out of all this. Like who do you think you'll miss the most.

[Tommy]

Those are two very different.

[Una]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Tommy]

I mean, I think honestly, like, Dante has been one of the biggest surprise. I'm not just saying this because you're next to me, like, going into, like, I didn't, you know, I knew obviously, we knew each other kind of like, I didn't really know you that well. I was like, oh, yeah. Dante, he's like, blackout tour. Like, Keon's bar is like, funny. He's got a lot of online conspiracy theories, but you're a good hang. Like, you're just fun to be around. And like, I, you know, it sucks that we're, you know, split up. New York, Chicago, because, like, I would love if, like, the 10 of. Like, obviously we're not, like, we can't do reality show every weekend, but if the 10 of us were able to just hang out more consistently, I think that'd be a lot of fun.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Una]

Just, like, go out every once in a while.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I think if we got so, like, close, like, I think we all got pretty close with cameras around. Like, if. If the ton of 10 of us did hang out without cameras around, like, I think we would get that much closer. Like, it would be crazy. Like, I don't know. Because I think as close as we got with the cameras, if they're. They weren't there, we probably would have gotten even a million times closer. So, yeah, it was like a special group of people, I think.

[Dante]

I agree.

[Una]

I dealt with, like, like, especially with the cameras. Like, even, like with Danny, for example. Like, I would. It was weird because he would be in his room and I would be like, oh, like, I would want to go, like, talk and hang out. But then I know that Katie Stats is there on the couch. So then Kitty Stats has to come and record that conversation. So then it's like, it makes it just so that I have to be like, I don't feel like having that whole thing go down. So, like, I do think, like, with the cameras, we can't.

[Tommy]

Like, yeah, you and Danny can now just have a normal conversation. Obviously not relation. Like, not sitting in a relationship yet, but normal dating, whatever.

[Dante]

That's what I was saying about all. All three of you. Like, you. This is such a up, like situation where you guys are, like, trying to get to know each other and develop a relationship, and you literally have a third person listening on everything and then broadcasting it out to all these strangers to critique. I mean, think about that. That is, like, demented. But, I mean, may great. It made great entertainment, but that's like, the total opposite of how you get into a relationship with somebody.

[Tommy]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

It's like a bizarre social experiment where you can't tell what's real. And.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

It's gonna, like to you psychologically.

[Una]

No, I mean.

[Jackie]

No, I don't mean in, like, a deep way. I just mean, like, I think there's probably gonna be moments where I feel like someone's feel like.

[Tommy]

I think it's gonna be weird. Like, the first time I go out to a bar in New York.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Tommy]

And nobody's recording.

[Dante]

That's what I mean.

[Tommy]

Like, wait a minute. Where the fucking cap. I'm also like, I' where's my security team?

[Jackie]

I'm gonna say something funny. I'm gonna be like, y' all got that?

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Is that clip.

[Tommy]

I think that, like, will take an adjustment, but, like, that'll be, like, literally. I think after one or two nights out of the bar, I'd be like, oh, yeah.

[Kevin]

That's how it's done. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I didn't know what.

[Tommy]

I will come to your birthday party on Friday.

[Una]

Okay. Probably I'm waiting in lines is gonna suck. Not getting, like, everything free, like, literally.

[Jackie]

I forgot about paying for drinks.

[Una]

I said the other day, I was like, I want socks. And they were like, okay, we'll order socks to the thing.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

That was nice of, like. I feel like summer weekends, you end up spending, like, a ton of money.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Going out to bars, restaurants, clubs. And, like, we did all that, and we were able to have an expense which was.

[Una]

I'm not sure what happened. I just checked my bank account. I have three times the amount that I should have. I don't know what happened. Should have. Like, I should have had a certain amount by the end of the month after I paid everything off.

[Tommy]

I have so much bill not go through. Or maybe it's just. Honestly, you're spending less money.

[Jackie]

You got paid too much, and maybe we should cut this in case they paid you too much.

[Una]

Yeah. I know I haven't fully tracked, like, what it is, but I'm pleasantly surprised. But I was like, maybe you, Danny.

[Kevin]

I mean, I couldn't.

[Jackie]

I couldn't financially afford to not go to the beach house.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, I literally couldn't. Couldn't deny this opportunity because.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Tommy]

So where you want to, like, talk about where you're at, Una, in terms of, like, your rest of your year here?

[Una]

Yeah, sure, let's.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah. So I was driving down to the shore on Thursday, and I got a call from, like, Gaz Kevin and Kim. I got like all these calls at once. First it was Kevin saying, by the way, Gaz is gonna call you and you got extended throughout the year. And I know it's not like what you wanted or maybe can financially realistically do, but like there and then Gaz called me and just kind of said the same thing and like just saying like there isn't a full time like niche for you that you found yet, which I mean realistically, like, yeah, there isn't. I don't like have something that is a full time job right now because like logistics with KFC radio and stuff, like they don't need or whatever another person. So I mean it makes sense. But I basically will just be back on my intern salary until the end of the year where hopefully I find a spot. But I think I'm going to be doing like not just KFC radio stuff. I think Gaz was saying like there's a lot of different things that I could help with to kind of see. Like I was talking to Travy about maybe helping with like more graphics for the main account, like quote cards, maybe doing social stuff because like sports are starting, like fun sports, sorry, baseball and I have never been here during that. I'm pretty into like college basketball and hockey, so maybe doing something with that. So hopefully yeah, I'll just be able to try out like different lanes until the end of the year where maybe I can find a permanent get on with Brie. Man, we, we talked about that, we tried with that and their team is very like tight and Yeah, I mean.

[Dante]

They'Ve been together for a long time. But start, start it with the simple stuff. Whatever you can do to like pick up the slack.

[Jackie]

I mean that's mostly probably what I'm gonna be doing. But also I did that like somewhat this summer and I don't want to just do that because I'm not going to find a full time job, just random stuff. But I am gonna like try helping with everyone.

[Dante]

She wouldn't just throw that out for no reason.

[Jackie]

And yeah, we talked about it. It's not like an option really, but.

[Tommy]

I mean, yeah, what if you like had the option of any full time offer? What do you think? You know what you'd want to do yet? Would you want to do content or like more?

[Jackie]

I don't, I know it's like I wish I had an answer but like I actually don't know and I don't want to pigeon myself by saying, oh, I definitely want to do this. Which I think Is the reason it's good that I was. I mean, the money part of sucks. I don't have somewhere to live, so I have to work from home for a week. So that. That part sucks. But I actually feel a little bit relieved that I don't have to, like, pick a thing right now.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Because I don't know 100 what I want to do. And I think that's one of the reasons why Gaz and Dave decided to extend me and give me not, like, a second chance, because it's not like I blew the first chance by any means, but, like, more time to kind of figure it out. Because, I mean, I think I want, Like, I know I want to be here, and I think there is a spot for me here. I just have to.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Figure it out.

[Una]

I also just give you major props because, like, it was kind of a. Like, we probably. It probably should have been established that you're gonna be extended before the show because, like, in your head, you're like, I don't want to do anything crazy because I don't know if I'm gonna have a job and have to apply for, like, law school after this.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Una]

So you don't want anything crazy to, like, be out there. But also, it's like, you got. Wanted to get the jobs. You had to, like, do something.

[Jackie]

It was weird, dude. Especially, like, not knowing where I was gonna sleep. I mean, I've been on a couch. Like. Yeah, like, my not. Not home life sounds so weird because it makes it sound like my parents are, like, getting divorced or something, but, like, coming back from the shore was always like, I don't know what this week is gonna look like for me, which was, like, such an added layer of, like, mental going on that I. I honestly think I did a pretty good job for myself of pushing it to the back of my head, but it was still something that I was, like, constantly thinking about.

[Una]

Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. That would, like, screw me up.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Una]

I was thinking about this because, like, a Blackout tour got brought up a lot today, but did you. Like, at the end of the day, I felt like this was really fun, but, like, it, like, was Blackout Tour fun for you, or does it remind you of this at all or completely different?

[Tommy]

Like, the Blackout tour was more of a war, right?

[Dante]

Yeah, it was a war. This was way. This was way more fun.

[Jackie]

This is a more fun.

[Dante]

Oh, yeah.

[Una]

War. In terms of what?

[Dante]

Like, we didn't. Like, we didn't have to work at all with. With this, like, the biggest chore for us Was getting up early and going to day drink on a boat.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I know.

[Dante]

All day. Like, that was like, oh, man.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Our biggest problem was, like, we just have to keep drinking.

[Dante]

Seriously. It was a grind, but it was a fun one.

[Una]

Don't think that we beat Adderall.

[Jackie]

It's honestly true. It's like Dana beer's beating O. Yeah, exactly.

[Una]

I do feel kind of like. Do you guys feel.

[Dante]

Feel this?

[Una]

I feel a little guilty that, like, I feel like this weekend we were kind of, like, limping to the finish line.

[Jackie]

I do feel like that.

[Dante]

I don't.

[Una]

And I feel like that a little bit.

[Jackie]

But we shouldn't, like. I know. We shouldn't feel like that. There's. We should not feel guilty. Like, we did. The only instruction for the show was, like, go hang out and be on camera and drink. Like, that was it.

[Dante]

I'm just glad you guys all rebounded as well as you did last night. I had a night I was so worried. I didn't want to put this out there and jinx things, but I was so worried that everyone was just going to be toast after the boat and dinner was gonna suck and people were gonna, like, be like, ah, we're gonna go home early.

[Tommy]

But I think everyone knew, like, an extra level of adrenaline kicks.

[Dante]

Dinner.

[Tommy]

Dinner was the last night and the dinner, too. I think one of the issues Saturday night was the. The heavy Italian dinner and sitting outside and it gets dark. Like, the La Mondina room. Like we said, it felt like a wedding. Like, it was well lit. We had music playing. Like, it was easy to keep the energy up.

[Dante]

It was great. Yeah, it was perfect.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I was never worried about last night. I knew the final night we were gonna, like, pull out all the stops. I mean, the night before was, like, tough. And I think I. I kind of thought going into this weekend, I was like, oh, it's the last weekend everyone's gonna be able to go super hard. Hard knowing that. But it was almost felt like the opposite Saturday night and during the boat, it was like, kind of felt like the opposite. Like, oh, it's the last weekend. It's. It made it harder to, like, go crazy because it was less excitement and more like, damn, it's ending. And I don't know that that was something for me. I guess that it worked the opposite way where I thought it was going to be way more hype than I was.

[Una]

Yeah. Wait, where did you get that cowboy hats, by the way?

[Jackie]

Oh, I have mine. We should have worn ours.

[Dante]

Dude. We got the weirdest Uber driver ever. Buy those back from Bare? Yeah, he sold them. He just turns around and hands us an iPad. And he's like, if you guys feel like shopping on the drive, feel free. We're like, what starts scrolling. He has all these cowboy hats listed on it. And I was like, it was just cowboy hats. Yeah. And I was like, in his. Did you see the Uber? It was all decked out with, like, American flag, like, Trump stuff. And I was so confused because I was like, why would I order cowboy hats from some guy?

[Jackie]

That's pretty financial. It's pretty smart.

[Dante]

And he was like, yeah, just when we. When we stop, just let me know what you're interested in. I'll grab out of the trunk. And Devon's like, wait, they're in your trunk? And he's like, yeah. He's like, everything you see right there. So then I was like, all right, now I have to buy him.

[Tommy]

It's honestly, if there's one thing a drunk. Like, I feel like, obviously you're an Uber on the Jersey Shore. You're picking up a lot of drunk people. And drunk people love buying cowboy.

[Kevin]

Cowboy.

[Jackie]

I mean, you got home with them. And I, like, was bartering with fucking Chuck for the one I wanted. I had, like, a fight, like, a legit fight for the one I wanted. It was awesome that I got it.

[Dante]

They were great. They were great.

[Una]

You saw a cowboy hats might be the number one drunk purchase hats.

[Jackie]

Hats of any kind. Like, when you're drunk and there's something new, you get to dawn on your head. It's awesome.

[Una]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Dante]

I want to go back to Jackie's question about who surprised.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah, sorry.

[Dante]

Everybody the most. Who would be your answer?

[Una]

I would not to keep glazing. I would probably say you.

[Tommy]

I glazed already. Pick something.

[Una]

Well, I also want to add on. You, like, are really, like, behind closed doors nice person. Not behind closed doors, but, like, kind. Like, thank you.

[Jackie]

Seriously, like, very, very, very nice.

[Una]

Oh. Like, you make sure that everybody's not to take away from America's sweetheart doing stuff. But he made sure, like, we all had our luggage and all that there was just certain things like that you did that I was like, damn.

[Tommy]

It's very clear that you're like, you know, an adult in a good way.

[Jackie]

But not just an adult.

[Una]

It's like, raised well a man.

[Jackie]

You were raised well? Yeah, yeah. Not just. But there's plenty of adults, like, is speaking like, I know you were, like, texting Kevin, like, trying to help me with the job thing with, like, which, like, meant so much. Like, not everyone was doing that for me. And you, like, seriously cared. You're checking in on me all week after our stupid, like, fight, which was, like, so dumb. But you were, like, checking on me. Yeah, I. I was definitely amazed at how, like, I. I knew nothing about you going into. I knew you, like, owned a bar or whatever, a couple bars, club. But I was obviously, like, surprised how funny that's a glaze thing we're doing. Not funny or. But, like, seriously, how, like, genuine of a person. You were always, like, amazed.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

So thanks.

[Dante]

Whatever.

[Jackie]

That's.

[Dante]

I. It's funny you said I was raised well. That's like the best compliment ever, by the way. But I thought the same about. And I almost said this for my speech last night, but I didn't want it to turn into, like a 30 minute thing. But I realized really quickly how just good people. Everybody in that house was like, there was nobody there that I was like, I don't think I would like, this person if I ran into them or was around them outside of, like, something that we all got thrown in together for work. Like, every single person there was, like, just social people.

[Tommy]

Producers.

[Dante]

Yeah, exactly. I mean, everybody. Not just the cast, but especially the cast. And I think if I had to answer that question, I would say Ella, because not for the reasons, like, everyone would think, but I got to know her over this past month and my opinion of her or what I thought she was like at the beginning to now, like, could not be more different. Like, first week, I was just like, this girl is nuts. Like, yeah, she is just party animal. Like, I need to, like, stay on her good side because she will tear my face off if I get on her bad side. And through, like, talking to her, not so much on camera, mostly, like, off camera, hearing the way she speaks about, like, her dad. Like, he sounds like the best dad in the entire world. And I was just like, this guy is, like, so lucky to have a daughter who, like, thinks the world of him. Like, especially nowadays. Like, that's so hard to do. And she's just so proud of her dad and, like, they have such a good relationship. I was just like, that is a sign of, like, a really good girl. And yeah, like, it's. I also.

[Tommy]

No, you know, she's definitely. I think. I think I'm gonna send the recap show last week. Like, she's definitely different, like, off or not, but, like, more just like, she. I mean, you're able to have, like, serious conversations with her, like, about things. Then Like, I feel like you probably just, oh, she's like 23 and like vapes and drunks. But it's like, definitely more vapes. Like, like more emotionally drinks, emotionally mature than you would expect for sure.

[Una]

I. I feel like I kind of tried to say this on the recap show, but, like, I seriously cannot talk on road.com for the life of me. But, like, seeing her, I feel like, like, kind of what you're saying, I realized I had the same realization. Like, everyone's just like a really. In the cast was like a really good person. And I feel like it's like you see everybody kind of have like their crash out moment, which is almost like them in their most human form. So it was like I. I was seeing like, Ella be like this crazy, crazy party or like K dick, like, dancing on tables and all this. And I was like, damn. Like, I don't have, like, I can't like, twerk like that. Like, I can't do that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. If I had an ass, it would have been so different.

[Una]

Yeah. But then, like, you see them later, like, like weekend 2k was like, I don't know if I. Like, he's in his head. He was like, I don't know if I can, like, whatever. And you just kind of like, see them, like, I don't know, just be like genuine people at the end of the day, which is cool. And like, even Brie, like, she had said after Weekend one, she was in her head and I was like, oh, I didn't know that Bri, like, gets in her head like that.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I think it almost makes people. It just makes people more likable and relatable when you see them, like, show so some vulnerability of like, oh, they're not. They're, you know, they're able to be real as well.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Which I think everybody kind of on the cast was.

[Una]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

That is rare that you can find, I mean, obviously social people, producers too, but like 10 people that are, like, actually good people and get along with, like, especially not. Not that there's a bunch of bad people at barstool, but everyone has such intense personalities here. Like, it's literally the name of the game that, like, it kind of seems like we would have been bound to have a couple people. People that, like, really didn't like each other.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, that, like, wasn't true at all.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

No one didn't like each other.

[Una]

I struggled with a lot. Just I feel like everyone waking up hungover and I always am like, is everyone mad? At me. Like, are people mad at me? So like everyone wakes up hungover and they're just kind of like trying to mind not talking. And then I would just go, oh my God, like what did I do? What did I say? Everyone hates me. Why does everyone hate me? Having to like work myself, talk myself off the ledge every morning. It's not something that I'm going to miss.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Una]

But then you real like towards the end I was just like, all right, it's not.

[Tommy]

Is anyone thinking about doing like a little cleanse? Like a sober October? Oh my God, yes, I think I might. So I've never. So we got the mascots tour episode three tonight. I'm sure they mentioned it, but. So like I feel like I might want to drink that I'm doing stand up for the first time shows. But I think October, I might do a true sober October. And I've never done it because I've always felt like, well, I could control. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, well, I like to drink a little bit, but like I do think a body reset would go a long way.

[Una]

I don't think I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna try not drink for September, but we'll see.

[Dante]

There you got your birthday.

[Tommy]

So you have a birthday party on Friday.

[Una]

I almost feel like now it's like, oh, I could be sober for anything. Like if I can. Like, you know, like it's birthday's almost easier because like I know everybody there. I just talk.

[Tommy]

It's almost gonna be like we've. We've partied so much that like being sober is going to be like our new self.

[Una]

Yeah. Y treat myself.

[Tommy]

Yeah, like, oh wow, I'm going out sober tonight. I wonder what I'll do.

[Jackie]

Get crazy having.

[Una]

No, that's another thing is like having to black out. Not be able to black out in peace and black out and then have people show you clips back of yourself being blackout.

[Tommy]

How many times did you like truly blackout on the, on the month?

[Una]

I definitely like because I think like anxiety wise I probably overdid it, I don't know, three, four times.

[Tommy]

I didn't block out at all.

[Una]

Oh, good for you.

[Tommy]

I mean I've literally only blocked out.

[Dante]

Good for you, man.

[Tommy]

My entire life.

[Jackie]

Are you just a tank or you just like never really keep drinking to that point?

[Tommy]

I think I, I can just handle it really. I think I just built up a good tolerance and I hydrate and I eat and Yeah, I don't know, I wish, I almost wish I Could get drunk or. I think that's why a sober October would help, too.

[Jackie]

Is, like, over your tolerance. Crazy November.

[Una]

Were you blacked out?

[Jackie]

Did you.

[Dante]

Yeah, so I. I came into this not drinking for, like, two months, which is insane for me, for, like, health reasons.

[Jackie]

Like, literally not a sip or more. Just like you.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

I was like. I had. I had maybe three or four glasses of wine in two months. No hard alcohol, no beer, nothing else. And I was just trying to see if I could do it and, like Tommy said, just bring my tolerance down. And it came way down. Like, oh, really? Yeah.

[Una]

Like, one beer would get your two beers?

[Dante]

Yeah, man. Like, those. These mornings, waking up and going through Twitter and seeing these videos was, like, cringe city. You kind of, like, so bad.

[Jackie]

I believe that you were super drunk. But I also, like, when you don't know. Like, I don't know. Didn't know you that well. It's hard to tell when someone's super drunk. So I'm like. You're also, like, really funny, and you say, like, funny, so it's like, I can't even. I can't even tell sometimes how drunk someone is when I don't know them that well, because I'm like, I don't know. Dante, like, did this morning, like, say he didn't know a door was there that we've used 400 times. He didn't know that downstairs basement door was there.

[Dante]

I never saw it.

[Una]

My favorite was the other day. You go. We were like, upstairs. And you're like, chuck, like, what do you say? You're like, I paid a tab last night because somebody wanted to cheap out and didn't want to pay the tab. Chuck was not upstairs. Chuck was not in the house. Chuck had not.

[Kevin]

This morning.

[Tommy]

This morning, I did come over to Dante and Danny's room, and I talked to them for, like, 30 seconds. And then I said, danny, what time's your flight? And then Dante said, I'm coming on the shuttle with you, Devlin. And I said, I'm Tommy.

[Jackie]

I mean, just now, not to spoil Tommy's tweet, just now, we come in here. Tommy shows Dante a picture of him and Dante far away.

[Kevin]

Someone took in.

[Jackie]

Dante goes, how did you take that.

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[Jackie]

Can I ask, like, weird.

[Dante]

My brain is.

[Jackie]

Where do you get these things that you say?

[Kevin]

Like what?

[Dante]

Like, my brain is just fried.

[Jackie]

I mean, seriously, you come up with things I didn't even know were options to say. Say, like, I can't even.

[Tommy]

You are like one of those people. I feel like Mincy is. Not that I'm putting you in the same category, but, like, there's some people where it's like, you're so. Like, you say things that, like, script writers can't even.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. It's like, how do you think of that?

[Tommy]

You walking down, like, past the girl and be like, where's this girl? And just walking right by her. Like, you put the. Like, the script right into the office, in the studio for a month. They're not coming up with something that good.

[Jackie]

I mean, we're sitting on the porch. You're like, well, no one's recording.

[Una]

So.

[Jackie]

So when someone's been filming you for.

[Tommy]

20 minutes, it's like, did you finally end up realizing it was a reality show and we were being recorded?

[Kevin]

Well, that was.

[Una]

What was so crazy about the Chuck thing, is you go. Danny goes, okay, so Chuck's not even in the house right now. You go, his cameras are here.

[Jackie]

Well, someone's always recording.

[Kevin]

He'll see it.

[Jackie]

It'll get back to you.

[Una]

You're in the bedroom, notoriously. No cameras there. And then we were like, there's no cameras on you right now. And you're like, we're on a reality show.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

Why is now the one time that you chose to think that you're on.

[Jackie]

Reality, you went way too far the other way. They were like. You were like, he'll hear it. We're bugged.

[Dante]

I could tell Dev was just always, like, in my face with camera like this.

[Kevin]

I could tell her, no, dude, single out is so funny.

[Dante]

Katie was like, that instance you just brought up when we were on the back porch and I didn't think that anyone was filming. She was like this, like.

[Tommy]

Yeah, so that's almost worse then for you.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Because they kind of let my guard down. Just let everything fly.

[Jackie]

Like, I know we were talking, Epstein.

[Una]

There's such, like, a level of disrespect, or not disrespect of, like, cutthroatness, when you are, like, talking and you look at the person and then you look down, you see that they're, like, filming and recording.

[Kevin]

You're just like, oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

It's also like when you're in a room with, like, say you're in a room with four people and you're talking, you kind of feel like you're speaking to all of those other people, but then you realize one person is not in the conversation. They're just like, yeah. I'm like, oh, wait, I just said something and it's not too. It's a. It's super weird feeling.

[Dante]

So weird.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Like, I didn't even think about that. But you're right. Like, going out to a bar now.

[Tommy]

Is gonna be like, yeah, it's gonna be so freeing.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, I might do something crazy.

[Una]

Or like, what if it's. What if it's, like, not. It doesn't feel worth it anymore to, like, yeah, go out and have fun if it's not being filmed.

[Jackie]

Damn true.

[Tommy]

I'm gonna just start live streaming my entire life.

[Kevin]

And that's how streaming.

[Jackie]

That's how Twitch streamers began, I guess.

[Dante]

Yeah, I missed. I was thinking today, like, I'm probably never gonna get to rip it up with kick again in a bar, and I feel like that made me.

[Tommy]

Certainly not true. You guys live in Chicago together. You own bars. He goes to bars. I feel like you guys will rip.

[Dante]

It up by, like, never gonna be around because of this, like, football show. He's gonna become so big. I feel like we got the last of, like, normal Katic.

[Tommy]

No, he's. You could tell he's a down to earth guy. No matter like, how much success he ends up having.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I think part of him probably doesn't even, like, fully register how, like, he's like, I'm just me. Yeah.

[Dante]

He has no clue.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

That's why it works. He's gonna be a megastar.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I don't even have a gauge of, like, the show success. It's so hard. I know it's like, oh, a billion impressions, as many impressions on all these platforms. But, like, it's so hard to gauge. I know, like, the mascots thing is similar for you, maybe, where it's like, I don't really know if this is like.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I mean, mascots, you could have, like, YouTube numbers, whereas, like, I feel like, like, social impressions or. I don't really know. I think going into it, that was one of my concerns is I was like, I don't know if this will be a success just because I don't know how we'll know if it's.

[Jackie]

I still.

[Tommy]

Right. But I think it was a. I think it was pretty clear after the first weekend, like, if, you know, you know.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

And, you know, people will have their complaints and whatnot. But, I mean, we got210,000 tick tock followers, 120 on Instagram, like, 100 on Twitter. And that's with Instagram and Tick Tock consistently banning us and pausing us. Like, imagine if that didn't happen. How much?

[Una]

Yeah. I don't know if I did it right or I don't know if I like, showed my same self, like, on it. I'm not mad about it. I think I kind of, like, towards the end, I literally was just like. I'm just thinking about this as, like, boot camp for myself to, like, get over caring about comments and what clips go out of me or whatever. Like, I was just like, as long as I can, like, get 10 better with that, like, it's a success for me. But I don't. But I do kind of fear, Like, I didn't. I don't know if I went out of my way to, like, showcase.

[Jackie]

You can't really go anywhere.

[Tommy]

I mean, you had the clips of the show when, like, Danny gets the public summons and you have, like, that to me, is perfect.

[Kevin]

Jackie.

[Tommy]

Like, if you had to describe Jackie to someone, you would show them that clip.

[Dante]

My personal favorite video, the entire show. Yeah.

[Una]

I also love when you just take photos and we go, what is that?

[Tommy]

For the niche, personal use of all the girls.

[Kevin]

Oh, that was so.

[Jackie]

That was so funny when you're like, oh, no, I'M not going to post.

[Tommy]

Are you going to send any of those? Put them in, like.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

Okay, cool.

[Dante]

I'm going to put up.

[Tommy]

We got a folder.

[Dante]

I'm going to. Yeah, I'm going to put up a little. Little car.

[Una]

A little stressed out about their Instagram posts, like, recapping. I gotta figure out things in the comments.

[Tommy]

I'm gonna throw up my speech, I think, on Insta, and then maybe some photos, like, next weekend.

[Una]

Oh, wow.

[Jackie]

So you're, like, planning.

[Dante]

That's a good idea.

[Una]

All right, well, I hope that was.

[Tommy]

Either, like, good podcasting or the worst ever. And I'm too hungover.

[Una]

I don't think I have much, like, had much energy with that.

[Tommy]

None of us have any energy, but maybe people will appreciate that.

[Dante]

No, I think it's good. I think it was. I think we're in a better mindset than we were 9am today. And, yeah, we didn't have Rome Ron teeing off on Tommy. Like, dude, he goes so hard at you.

[Jackie]

Yeah, he does that.

[Dante]

But you handle it very well.

[Una]

Really well.

[Tommy]

He knows I can take it. They all know I can take it.

[Dante]

Austin.

[Tommy]

They all know I can take it.

[Una]

It sounds sexual.

[Tommy]

Take it in the ass.

[Jackie]

I mean, from Dave.

[Dante]

Yeah. Why is Austin so, like.

[Una]

Was that actually.

[Tommy]

Definitely. Actually Austin. That meanness could only come from him.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I mean, listen, like, that was. But, like, again, I went like. It's like, oh, you hooked up. Like, I. I hooked up with one girl the first weekend. She didn't want to be on camera anymore, so I wasn't gonna keep an eye out with a girl. I hooked up with another girl or.

[Kevin]

Sorry.

[Tommy]

I hooked up with her the second weekend with a different girl. The third weekend, she was cool, the girl that was back. The stripper. But then the Ella thing started, and.

[Dante]

So that was that.

[Tommy]

And then I did make out with the other girl last night, which I did. But it was also like, at that point, me and Ella were kind of clearly going our separate ways. And it's like, you know, a girl started talking me at a bar and I'm single.

[Kevin]

What was I supposed.

[Una]

You know, I think you had a great showcasing. I think you had fun and you showed Tommy and you had storylines.

[Tommy]

I think we all did.

[Una]

I think we all did. Okay.

[Jackie]

Anyway, anything you guys would change next time, either about the show or about yourself, like, not by yourselves, but, like, is there anything that you were like, next time they should do like, this or you think it was perfect.

[Tommy]

It was pretty perfect as is. I really do. I Think we'll, like, it's gonna be hard to. Whether it's 10 of us, the same 10 of us doing the same show or a different show, or whether it's a recasting and reshuffling, I think it'll always be hard to capture the map.

[Dante]

I totally agree.

[Una]

Yeah, I agree.

[Dante]

I don't know how they're gonna duplicate this. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, the 10 people was so perfect.

[Una]

Yeah. I think it'd be like. But if we did it again, like, I feel like everyone had a little bit of shell shock at certain times, so I feel like now we know what we're getting ourselves into at least. Like, I would. If I could do this again. Like, I feel like I'd be like, all right, stop being so worried about everything.

[Tommy]

But then that's when it's like, well, then is it better to get new people in the mix?

[Kevin]

Because.

[Tommy]

Because they'll have that shell shock, and there's new relationships where it's like, oh, what's gonna happen between these two people we haven't seen before? But then, on the other hand, it's like, you think about Jersey Shore Summer House. Those shows worked because all the audience got to know the cast. The cast would stay more or less the same. And so you, like, you got to know everybody, and you became invested in them as, like, people.

[Jackie]

I wonder if, like, we actually got lucky with, like, a perfect 10 people or if. If they did a whole new 10 people, it would be the same, like, magic or whatever. Like, you know what I mean? I. I wonder if it actually was such a great casting and it was kind of lucky in that way or if it would be that amazing with any 10 people. And I kind of think it was, like, pretty special.

[Tommy]

I think it was a mix of both. I think it's a good concept that. That what was gonna work, but it definitely helped that we had a good cast.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

I think people are gonna be, like, dying next weekend when there's no clips firing out.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

But they'll have football of everything.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, what am I gonna do? It's gonna be Thursday. I'm gonna be like, what? So I have four days to myself.

[Dante]

It's gonna be weird.

[Una]

Yeah. Yeah. Damn. All right. Thank you guys very much for doing this. This is nice.

[Dante]

Thank you.

[Una]

Like, cut out time, and even though.

[Tommy]

We'Re all dead, so enjoy Oasis. You the dog and baby.

[Dante]

So I'm drinking tonight, and then I'm. I'm not drinking for weeks.

[Tommy]

Tank.

[Dante]

After this.

[Una]

You're seriously. Tank. That's crazy. I have a feeling that you're gonna be in the office tomorrow too, right?

[Dante]

Yeah, I'm, I'm. Kevin texted me. I'm doing show with them in the morning.

[Una]

Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, this is your show too.

[Jackie]

People are going to be flagging you down for their shows left and right.

[Dante]

I'll be here tomorrow.

[Kevin]

Cool.

[Una]

Cool. Thank you.

[Dante]

Thank you, guys.

[Una]

Bye.

[Jackie]

Thanks, folks.

[Kevin]

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[Dante]

All the rules, few things feel better.

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[Dante]

You're lucky, man.

[Kevin]

Oh, it's awesome.

[Dante]

It's so.

[Kevin]

It's the best kept secret, like in America.

[Dante]

Seriously.

[Kevin]

And I just never thought there was gonna be a world where I would just would never think I would see Dante wearing a Mana swan shirt or.

[Una]

Like you guys being like, you got the Donovan's hat.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I mean, you guys got all the swag. It is the best kept secret in America. We've. Anybody who's gone to Jersey forever has said it. We almost like when there's the Jersey shore comparisons, like, it's always just guidos. And because we're like, yeah, yeah, more for us, like, don't, don't come. It's all just guidos and it's terrible. And then beyond even what you guys saw, if you go like chair squeaking, if you go one town over, did you guys go to spring Lake at all? Probably not. There's really no reason you would have gone there.

[Dante]

We drove through.

[Kevin]

They call it the Irish Riviera. It's, like, gorgeous. Like.

[Una]

Oh, is that where all the nice houses are?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Okay.

[Kevin]

Well, I mean, there's. Yes, there are. That place is tons of nice houses. The beach is, like, private, and it's like, they don't allow food and drinks, and it's only families. It's like white sand. It's. You know. So if you want to. When you get older and you want to, like, do the Jersey Shore but not be partying and you can go there. It is unbelievable.

[Dante]

It was cool seeing the. I'd been to the Jersey shore. I hadn't been to that part.

[Kevin]

Do you know where you went?

[Dante]

I kind of. Yeah. Like.

[Kevin]

Like seaside.

[Dante]

Like Ocean City. Stone Harbor.

[Kevin]

That's like. Is Stone Harbor South. So that there's, like, the Philly Jersey Shore. Jersey.

[Dante]

Yeah, Philly Jersey Shore. I had always gone to trash and. No, even that.

[Kevin]

It's funny I say that about. But it's the same thing that people say about the Jersey. Yeah, the. The northern Jersey. It's like.

[Dante]

But he. So I. I was still really blown away by that whole area. Manisquan Brielle.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Dante]

I mean, it's beautiful. Not just the houses, but the beaches, the sand, the water was great. And they do such a good job of keeping everything nice.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Dante]

And it was cool seeing the people who had no idea what to expect. Like, the Midwestern people. And then, you know, like, Nikki from Florida, and they were all just like, holy, this place is.

[Kevin]

I know, so awesome. And it's, like, close. You know what I mean? Like, for. You can still. It's like a headache with some traffic every now and then. But when you consider that, like, most people have to, like, hop on a plane and, like, take a vacation to go to a place like that. And for people in New York and I guess Philly, you can just drive. Like, what.

[Una]

Oh, were you saying that?

[Kevin]

I just was pointing down.

[Dante]

Dude, the food. Food that we ate.

[Kevin]

Really? That's one thing that I. I actually don't know because when I was there, we were just like, animals and, like, you know, I know, like, the pizza places.

[Dante]

You know, I feel like I felt at the end of the Blackout tour, like, I just have fat. I'm, like, soft.

[Kevin]

How would you compare the two?

[Dante]

I mean, this is obviously one month compared to four years, but.

[Kevin]

But, like. Like, the pe. Peak partying of beach house versus peak partying.

[Dante]

It was up.

[Kevin]

Is it Close. Wow. I thought you were going to be like, nothing touches the Blackout tour.

[Dante]

Cuz we couldn't. We. I mean, we got after it every night almost by, like, choice. Like, we have to go out and dance like idiots for three hours. We can't do this sober. Yeah. We would, like, force ourselves to drinks. This show. We were literally like, Tommy, Jackie and Una and I were joking about it yesterday. It was like, roll out of bed, like, all right, guys, grab a beer. Here you go. Get after it.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Oh, were. They were like. Was production like, you know, drinks ready for you and like, it was.

[Dante]

Everything was just so jam packed. It was like boat day. And dude, that was the other thing. Like, we went to this cove.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Or something. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Some of the spots you guys were in, I was like, what is this?

[Dante]

Looks like. Yeah. Like.

[Kevin]

Yeah, like. Like that was the beach day you stopped somewhere, right. Because I. Yeah. I saw you guys, like, kind of docking with other people. I was like, what is this you guys were doing? I've never.

[Una]

I didn't ever know about that. It was like a, you know, like a tailgate, like block party.

[Kevin]

But like all the boats.

[Dante]

Right.

[Kevin]

That's cool.

[Dante]

Dude, that had to be a thousand boats tied up in this cove that, like, so six different ways. And they had such good setups. They were like, legit. Felt like it was a football game. There were people.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Grilling on the sand.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

There was like water I'd set up. People were chucking football, like, down the row.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Dante]

There was a. There was a pizza boat floating around, slinging pizzas with the hottest chick ever, like, doing headstands on.

[Kevin]

That's great.

[Dante]

Oh, it was the best.

[Kevin]

I'm so happy. I'm so happy with the show. I think, like, I mean, Tommy's not here, but I think Tommy, like, had a great time. Like a. Like, like did a great job with it, you know, Like, I'm. I'm looking at it from the point of view of like, everybody's stock, if you will, you know, And I feel like Uno was like, trying to get a job and like, her throwing herself out on that show was good for her. Tommy managed himself, I think, like, perfectly. And then I. I would honestly say. I mean, I was about to say, like, you guys, I think, are like the top two stocks in my mind. But then there's K D Canela. Like, everybody kind of crushed it. But I would say Uncle Dante is. Is coming out looking like, you know, coming out smelling like roses. Dude, I feel like your stock went through the roof.

[Dante]

Yeah, just like 10, a little 10 years too late.

[Kevin]

But it's never too late. Yo, you say that. I get what you mean, but I, I often like remind myself of this because I'm just always like comparing myself and trying to get bigger and show like thinking about, you know, other people's careers. And like, I look at some of the comics that we roll with, they didn't get like popping until they were like 50. Yeah. You know, like late in light. Like Bert Kreischer like blew the up like 40s into 50s and now he's like, you know, 100 million dollar man. It's. And I'm always thinking, you know, I, I, there's in my circle. So I compare myself and I'm like, oh my God, it's like 20 years before I would even, you know, hit that level. So, I mean, I guess I'm getting to, I'm getting up there myself, but it's like, it's never too late, bro.

[Una]

I would watch a live stream of you just going like, I'm not kidding. I would watch whatever is put out. Just any kind of live stream of you. Like the funniest person, hands down.

[Dante]

I mean, me and Danny are going to try to do something.

[Kevin]

I was going to say, so you guys have plans?

[Dante]

All of you should.

[Kevin]

I mean, all of you. I really feel like now is the time. I think I said leading up to it, making content, doing it. You did great. And now is the type.

[Dante]

Now's the time to like run all ears, man. And our company is obviously the best at figuring out lanes and avenues that work. I am clueless when it comes to that. So I sent out some text yesterday like, hey, I'd love to pick your brain. Of course.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Gaz doesn't respond.

[Kevin]

I was gonna say, I, I think Barstool is very good at like monetizing and, and Barstool is great at taking you from like 80 to 100, you know? Yeah, but that first 80 is you, you gotta just get out there and do it, you know?

[Dante]

Yeah, I just, I, I don't think I'm looking for like someone to hold my hand. I'm just looking for someone that like, knows this game. Like, I know nothing about social media.

[Kevin]

And you know more than you think, though. You know more than you think.

[Dante]

Not, not like on the level that people in this company is. Dude, being around the production people for a month like we were, it is seeing the machine, how good these people are.

[Kevin]

Like, yeah, they're on top of their.

[Dante]

Not just in like knowing what to do, how to do it, but also the work ethic. I mean, they do not sleep. They are in your face every second, recording every second. Like, Roan made a joke about it. I. If I had to record people playing Beirut, I would blow my brains out, dude.

[Kevin]

I, I couldn't do it for a million reasons. Being like, the sober one around the drunk people up all night. That all sucks. But also, I don't have. Hell, I don't have the, like, the balls. I think I'm too soft to, like. Like, I would, I would just wouldn't film you while you're crying, and I would. Chewed out by Dave and probably fired for it. I just, I just don't have it in me. But, like, the production people are. And I don't mean that in a bad way. They're just like, they're gonna get the best content always, no matter what it takes. And there's a, There's a personality type to that and like, a work ethic to that that, like, they don't stop.

[Una]

And they don't complain about it. Like, they would just get there the next morning and be like, right.

[Kevin]

Oh, they're probably you guys.

[Dante]

Behind your back.

[Kevin]

I mean, when the production gets together, like, these guys.

[Dante]

Oh, yeah. That they were like, they're definitely doing, but not enough.

[Una]

There were times where, like, I could just tell it was like three in the morning. I was having, like, pointless conversations or, like, playing a dumb game. And they're just there. And you can see that they're like, my life. But, like, they still did it every single day. They'd be back in the morning that.

[Kevin]

What did you expect going in? Like, did you. I mean, I really. I mean, it's, it's really. It is hard to, like, power rank it because everyone kind of did their own thing where it's like, if you wanted, like, a party animal, it was K. Canela. If you wanted humor, and it was Tommy, you know, all these different things. But I, I didn't know, like, what to expect from you, good, bad or otherwise. And I, I, I. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I saw you coming out of this the way you are, where it's like, unk is a. Is a hit, you know, I. Did you have expectations?

[Dante]

Yeah. I mean, I went in like, I just really don't want to humiliate myself.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I bet that's a lot of people. Like, their, their thing was like, just don't up.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Not like, I'm gonna do this and that and blow. You know what I mean?

[Una]

After the first weekend, like, I was just like, holy. I might go crazy. My only goal after that was just, like, keep my sanity.

[Dante]

Same.

[Kevin]

Did you have, like, a breakdown? Oh, dude. I was talking the girls through it.

[Dante]

All, but I never.

[Kevin]

I didn't hear from you.

[Dante]

See, like, that first night, I showed up, and I'm walking upstairs, and Nikki and Annika are, like, screaming at each other nose to nose, and I was just like, what did I get myself into? Like, oh, my God.

[Kevin]

You were a great voice of reason, by the way, for.

[Dante]

Be here for a month with this. Like, I'm. There's no way I'm gonna come out without, like, PTSD or something.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I. I felt like there were times where you would kind of be, like, the voice that, like, in my head, where, like, they were arguing. You were like, what are we. What are we doing here, guys? Why are you. Like, why. Why is this your life right now? Why are we doing this? And there were so many times that, like. Or. Or you were like, we got to go out. Like. Like, now's the time. Like, don't sleep. And these things that are like. You know, when you're 40 and. And you're. You're watching these people do it, it's like, do it this way, not that way. I mean, Annika. Nikki's crazy, by the way. And they were just like. I don't even know where they stand right now. But then when they were just kind of, like, together this final weekend, I was like, you couldn't script this if this was, like, a scripted show. I don't think they would come up with this storyline of them just being like, okay, now we're together.

[Una]

Together.

[Dante]

We had some crazy great. I was telling Nate and Robbie last night at the concert back to Tommy. Tommy is.

[Kevin]

You were.

[Dante]

He's a floored by Tommy freak. Dude, I. I knew Tommy going into this, but I didn't. I had no clue about the real Tommy. He is, first off, might be the most talented person I've ever met in my life.

[Kevin]

I've been saying it for years. Man, he is so funny.

[Dante]

Freakishly, Freakishly, like, hilarious.

[Kevin]

And really good about, like, the. He doesn't care about the cameras. He doesn't get camera shy. He doesn't get embarrassed. Like, he just goes.

[Dante]

He can say the most ridiculous thing in the world and keep it perfectly straight face. Like.

[Kevin]

Yeah. You know what he told us the other day? He said that he invented the phrase paint like Picasso, when someone's like, oh, it's like watching Picasso paint. He's like, I invented that. And. And we were like. He's like, no, I invented that. And we start to, like, Google it, and he's like, no, I really think I did. And then. And. And I, I actually think he was serious. But that. Then I thought about it after. I was like, did we just, like, play into Tommy's bit that whole time?

[Una]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Or is. Does he actually. I don't know. It's. It's like Inception. I. I told him he needs a little top to spin to find out whether he's in this world. That world.

[Dante]

Yes. You cannot tell anything. Not just that, but then he, like, stands up and gives this speech. Like he memorized it for a month, which I.

[Kevin]

He might have to be honest, knowing.

[Dante]

Him, he dropped this speech on the last night that was so good that I was just like, dude. And then we're on the boat and he's rapping these songs. Not just, like, you know, like, he's performing, Performing, beginning to end, like, every word. He does the Eminem verse on Forever where he, like, sucks in his breath.

[Kevin]

As much as he keeps going.

[Dante]

I'm just sitting. I'm like, what? This kid is, like, insane.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I, I, I. I've always thought Tommy should be, you know, a bigger star and, and more everything. He's.

[Una]

I think I was actually more shocked to see what, like, a normal human he was this trip.

[Kevin]

Yeah, you don't get the, the off camera, Tommy.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

We had a whole discussion about last podcast about, like, what's your online Persona and your regular Persona and what's a bit and what's real? And he was kind of like, these aren't bits. I'm trying to be funny, but, like, this is who I am. And it's this whole, you know, what's real, what's not world is. Yeah, that's where you want to be as a content creator, though, where it's.

[Dante]

Like, he also, like, thinks in terms of, like, what we're doing. Like, there were so many times where we'd be joking or bullshitting or whatever, and he would, like, jokingly be like, wait a minute, where's the camera?

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah, he knows.

[Dante]

Dante, repeat.

[Kevin]

Record this.

[Dante]

Dante, repeat that for me.

[Kevin]

He's a little, like, production producer style. Like, you know what it is? He's got, like, survivor brain at all times. He's thinking angles. Who's against me, who's with me, what's on the camera, what's not. It's always a game of Survivor Every day of his life.

[Dante]

So he. This is back to tying my original point before I went on, so it was, like, sucking him off. We're sitting around before we go out to dinner the last night, and Chuck is like, hey, Dante, I got an interesting DM. I'm like, oh, boy, here we go.

[Kevin]

Chuck is Gas Junior Bro Bro Gas 2.0.

[Dante]

Scary.

[Kevin]

He comes school, and it's like, yeah, I can tell.

[Dante]

Very scary. Not just like, but his cadence, the mannerisms. It's like, I'm there with gas. It's scary.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dante]

And I'm like, oh, here we go. Where's this gonna go? And he's like, somebody said, you know, it would really put this show over the top and, like, solidified in reality, like, television hall of fame. Like, what? He goes, if Nikki happened to cheat on Annika tonight last night. And I'm like, oh, my God, that's so up. But that's so true. So true. Internet would explode. And Tommy's, like, sitting where you are. And Tommy goes, no, no, no, no. It's like, I think if we're gonna go for this, we need Annika to cheat on Nikki. Everyone's. And Annika's, like, sitting there, and she's like, oh, my God. Can you imagine? I'm sitting there, and I'm like, are these people really considering this?

[Kevin]

But you know what? It really, like, I. You get a little taste of that, and you can see how people would do it on purpose, you know, like, this is. There's. There's opportunity here for sure. But if you're talking about, like, the Real Housewives or something, that's, like, fully established, there's absolutely people going like, oh, just cheat on me tonight. And it's okay. We'll all make money from. You know what I mean?

[Dante]

Like, 100.

[Kevin]

Like, not scripted, but just encouraged, and people are okay with it, you know?

[Dante]

Yeah, this was none of that. And I feel like that's kind of the beauty of the format being live and right up online, like, right? Yeah.

[Kevin]

There's almost not even time to edit. And you could.

[Dante]

Even if we wanted to sit around and if we want to sit around, discuss anything, there's literally camera in our face, right? Everything.

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[Una]

I thought about this during, like, I didn't want to pitch it because I didn't want to have to actually do this. But like, my producer brain was thinking that we should have had probably more games. Kind of like in Love island, like, who's most likely to. Because that's. There's some stuff if I say like, oh, who's most likely to cheat on their significant other? And then I say like, you know, Nikki or. I mean, that's like, well, yeah, everyone would. Yeah. If I were to say like Annika, then it would be like, oh, okay, so now we have beef now. Yeah, something like that.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

And that I think would have stirred up more stuff if, probably if there was a second season, like, I would say maybe. Like, as much as I wouldn't want to do it, doing stuff like that. Rather than just relying on drinking to be the entertainment.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

There were certain times when I was like, I don't have anything entertaining to give tonight, so imagine get blackout drunk.

[Kevin]

Imagine doing it at Love island where they're sober the whole time.

[Una]

I know. I know.

[Kevin]

All of that is sober. Yeah.

[Una]

Then it's like. Then you gotta rely on the cheating.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

No, but honestly, that probably is why they do a lot of the games. And because it's like, if they're not drunk, they're just gonna be normal humans, and we need them to be creatures.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Brie came up with a really good idea for a game that we just. We legit had, like, no downtime.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

I think the only downtime we had this entire weekend was between the boat and dinner, which might have been three hours.

[Kevin]

But when you say that, like, I thought you guys were mostly just, like, sitting around.

[Una]

No, we actually had, like, had a lot of downtime.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Like, when you were just, like, sitting at the house drinking.

[Dante]

I mean, like, people were getting ready.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Constantly.

[Kevin]

Okay, well, Right, right. I'm just saying it wasn't like you were like, going, like, doing events and places and. No, no. In the house. But it was like.

[Dante]

But like, we were talking heading into the weekend. I forget what brought it up, but Brie was like, we should play this game. I forgot. I'm an idiot, because I don't remember what it was, but it was a really good idea. It was like an icebreaker game. Like, you go around and everyone writes something like no one would ever guess about them. And you put in a hat and someone reads, and you got to guess who it is.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Stuff like that. We get a lot of good content. Yeah.

[Dante]

Yeah. So we were gonna do that, but we just never got around to it.

[Kevin]

Because that stuff, I think, is better than just being, like, based.

[Una]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Especially, like. I think this was great. I think if, like, we did another season or if there was more weekends, it was longer than just a month. I think it would eventually wear a thin. Where it's just like, all right, they're drunk again. Unless, like, I mean, if fireworks, if sparks are flying every time you're drunk, like, whatever.

[Dante]

But Kevin, as a veteran of that area, also security. Mike is like.

[Kevin]

I keep asking him, I. I don't know where he is or what he's doing. The first weekend, the very first thing I did, I was like, all these guys are interesting. I want to talk to Mike.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Because when he told me that he had three security guards, I don't know if they eventually bumped it up because things got, like, big enough. But I thought, like, everyone was gonna have one security guard, at least the girls, you know, and he was like, I walk in with three guys, and all these are drunk, and they just scatter into the bar, and we just have to, like. We have to go after them. Like, he. He had. And he was like. He finished. He finished in Jersey, flew to the Ozarks for, like, a golf thing. Came back. He is that. It's not a. I said it's. It's very hard job, but it's got to be a great, like, post law enforcement career where it's, like, fun, interesting, relatively safer, easier attitude. Yeah.

[Dante]

He is so much. Much patience. I, like, I can't tell if part of him is amused by doing this.

[Kevin]

Oh, I think it's a little both, or I think he's abused or, like.

[Dante]

And also part of him is just like, I used to have to deal with such scumbags that this is like, yeah.

[Kevin]

If my biggest concern is, you know, Brie dropping Ella on her face, doing a piggyback, like, not the end of the world, but also, he takes that seriously.

[Dante]

Get down.

[Kevin]

You're gonna hurt yourself, bro.

[Dante]

He is so connected and plugged in down there. He knows.

[Kevin]

Oh, well, he's. I think he's connected everywhere, bro.

[Dante]

Everywhere we went, people were. He was, like, seeing people. He knew. People were like, Mike.

[Kevin]

Oh. He strikes me as a guy who's like, he knew. Oh, it's your Uncle Mike. To me, like, everybody.

[Dante]

He was telling me, like, all right, you guys need to go here. You need to go here. Don't go to this place. It's a waste. Like, he helped set us up for success, like, so well. But what I wanted to ask you was, did we. He was telling me about all these weekday parties that go on down there. He was like, part of. Of me wishes you guys did, like, a full stay down here because there's, like, this Monday industry party at Donovan's that.

[Kevin]

I guess I thought that's. That's a thing, like, in nightlife in general. No, I thought. Yeah, but Mondays is usually for, like, the staff, right?

[Dante]

Yeah, but I didn't know if it, like, cleared out during the week, if everybody, like, went back to the, like, city.

[Kevin]

And I mean, I mostly did what you guys did, too. Like, it was mostly weekends. It was pretty rare that we would stay during the week, so I guess I couldn't really.

[Dante]

Dude, like, DJs turns into, like, a rock bar on Monday nights.

[Kevin]

I didn't D.J. scares me, bro. I go to, I, I went to DJs at night time like once my whole life. When it's, when it's like the, when it's like the coming off the beach happy hour type thing, like kind of still an outdoor bar. Cool. As soon as the shades go down and it becomes like, you know, guido juiced out central techno, I'm. I'm out. Once it becomes Rico Bosco hours, I'm gone. So to be honest, I probably couldn't tell you much more than what but you guys did as well. I'm a little upset. Some of the bars that I wish you guys went to, you were not allowed to go to. Namely Parker House.

[Dante]

Yeah, dude, what is, what is that about?

[Kevin]

Parker, to be perfectly honest, probably is just like so big and so popular that they don't need, they don't need the smoke. It's also like just in the middle of a neighborhood. Like it's just like there are houses, like it's this big Victorian house and it's just like in the middle of a neighborhood, like a couple blocks from the beach. And I think they get a lot of like complaints and noise violations and all that stuff. So I think they have to like, they probably have a very well oiled machine in terms of. I bet they're playing people and have an agreement and understanding and anything that can throw that off is probably just not worth the problem with their business. Like their business is so good, you know.

[Dante]

Is it like everywhere else or do you have to like. Because I saw a picture of it, it reminded me of this place in Newport. Look, looks exactly like it. Like big veranda deck with like bars out there. Where do you. Someone told me there's like a club in the basement.

[Kevin]

God's basement.

[Dante]

Dude, that's sick.

[Kevin]

So like when, when we would want.

[Dante]

To dress up to go there?

[Kevin]

No, no, no, no. I mean it's, it's usually just, you know, yuppies boat shoes and collared shirts and that kind of, you know. But like if you wanted to just go for like a lunch or like a evening happy hour, you sit outside on the porch, you can have, they have like seafood, they have like dollar lobster claw. Nice. So you can do that if you want to sit down and eat. Then they have a indoor bar that's kind of like hip hop and that kind of music. And then you go down into the basement. And so my, one of my friends lives down there and like, you know, his actual home is right around the corner. So he and a bunch of Guys from Loyola, like, all partied there. And one of these, one of the kids. I can't remember his name, he coined the term God's basement. And we all got such a kick out of that. Then when I started at barstool, I was saying that on.

[Dante]

Oh, no bar stool.

[Kevin]

So it became like a thing. They now have a welcome mat that says God's Base. So it, like, blew the up. And that's.

[Dante]

That's actually sick.

[Kevin]

And there. There's the. The COVID bands that play there. And I'm sure. I hope you guys, like, experience this in all the bars.

[Dante]

The.

[Kevin]

The COVID bands in Jersey are like legit bands. They're like wedding band type material where they're not just like some schmucks, like, in the garage playing.

[Dante]

Also another conversation Mike and I had about that. I love how every bar doesn't just. I mean, obviously this isn't for every single one, but almost every bar we went to wasn't just a straight dj. They were like, the live music's awesome.

[Kevin]

Dj, Live Osprey, the Boom Boom Room. And Osprey. Did you guys. They even call. Did you guys talk about that?

[Una]

I don't know.

[Kevin]

Like, Osprey has like, the band room and the Boom Boom Room. The Boom Room is like, you know, a club, you know, and it's. I don't know how, like, physically the buildings work, but it's like, you walk in, you hear that music. You walk in there, you hear that music. It's all. It's like you're in a different world.

[Una]

I like that there's like multiple bars within one bar. Like, there's multiple.

[Kevin]

Like, yeah, that's. And that's Parker House is really good. Like, that. You feel like you're in a different place.

[Dante]

That's what I loved about bar.

[Kevin]

A bar is massive and they let you in. I'm surprised that they were cool because they. They used to.

[Dante]

So cool.

[Kevin]

They were so strict. Like, like, with regular people, like, you had to have two forms of ID and if anything was expired or. There was one time my buddy just, like, looked different than his picture and they just wouldn't let him in.

[Dante]

He was.

[Kevin]

It was all legit. He was of age. They were just like, nah, that's not you.

[Dante]

So I tried to go back the last night because I was trying to, like, meet up with that bartender, and I was. I was solo and they were just like, yeah, go. Like, they didn't.

[Kevin]

Not.

[Dante]

Not like, do you know who I am? But because we hadn't prearranged it. They were just like, yeah.

[Kevin]

Like, yeah. I just think it's not worth some of their potential risk.

[Dante]

The nights we went there where they knew we were coming, they were so accommodating. We went the second to last night, the night everyone went home early. It was like cold out. They brought over a stack of hoodies for all the girls and I took one. They brought a stack of hoodies over. The GM was like, can I get you guys like anything else? Someone asked for a hat. He brought hats over. They were like super, super nice.

[Kevin]

One of the bands. Did you guys see the Pat Roddy Band at all? Pat Roddy is like the man. I'm trying to see if they have like any other. Cuz I. I almost. I remember trying to look into them like playing for my wedding. Pat, the Pat Roddy Band, they play in God's basement usually. And it's like a. An experience. It's like a. It's almost like a concert experience in my mind. Like. Like rocking out to a Springsteen cover by Pat Roddy in God's basement at the Parker House in New Jersey is like, everyone should experience that one. I honestly think I talk about this with Captain Cons all the time because Captain Collins is like a die hard Parker fan. In recent years, it got like too popular. It's like the lines are too long, there's too many people. And I think you guys would have been. Not that like any of these other bars aren't our demographic, but Parker House. I don't think you guys would have been able to move. I think it just would have been pictures and talking like the whole time. But the basement is like. It's beautiful outside, it's sunny and you go into the like. It's literally the basement. It's like small ceilings and it's loud rocks. And it's like at one point was genuinely my favorite bar of all time. It was. It's a place and there's always. It's very like. Do you ever go to the Boardie Barn in Long island in the Hamptons?

[Dante]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Kevin]

So like there's. To me, like, there's a sign of like a really like kind of immortal bar. There's always a couple or two that are like 60 years old any night you go there and they're like, we met here and we come back every year and it's like our anniversary or whatever. It's like that kind of bar that's been around that long and has the history and people meet. I think Fran met her husband At Parker House, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, there's a lot of stories like that.

[Una]

I've actually heard multiple people meeting their husbands at Parker House there.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's.

[Una]

It's.

[Kevin]

I mean, it's. I think it's just kind of like yuppie white people central. So you're just gonna find, like, your match there, you know? But that's. That's the only thing I wish you guys, like, got to do is Parker House.

[Dante]

Me too. Now everything else seems like you did a good job describing it.

[Kevin]

Osprey's fun, too. I'm happy you got Osprey. Seems to be, like, kind of one of your.

[Una]

Yeah, it was like home base. Like, that was like.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Una]

And they were so nice about it every single time.

[Kevin]

Did you guys ever see the Osprey?

[Una]

Well, it was weird because on Sunday, like, we walked in. I forgot it was, like, Labor Day weekend, but obviously there was nobody there. And so it was kind of, like, weird vibes the last night because it was, like, very sparse.

[Kevin]

We always said, like, if you can see the Osprey, it's time to go home because it's on the floor and everyone's covered up. So if you're there late enough that the lights are on and there's nobody standing on it, like, go. The home once you see the Osprey is bad news.

[Dante]

It was such a good setup, though, because we had that, like, back room, like, basically to ourselves. So that was, like, home base, where.

[Kevin]

So you guys did get, like, a little VIP treatment, like, in a sense. Yeah. Osprey, like, you were just there.

[Dante]

Such good care of us. Bar A gave us, like, our own section. Cabanas. The only place that we were literally were, like, fighting for our lives, really was Legates at night. But we. I went over there with Nikki during the day.

[Kevin]

Surprised they ever let him. Bro.

[Dante]

Best day bar. Yeah, the best day bar. That patio is so sick and talking. Even the inside during the day. Great, like, great bar.

[Kevin]

I don't know if they still have it, but there was a buffalo chicken cheesesteak. Used to walk off the beach, get a buffalo chicken cheesesteak with some Ruffles chips.

[Dante]

Oh, my God.

[Una]

Oh, my God. I'm gonna miss the food so much.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's good. Did you go? I also loved a lot of the bars around. A lot of restaurants around there are byob, which I'm always a big fan of. It's hard to get a liquor license in Jersey, so we would just roll in with, like, a, you know, a Cooler full of bottles of wine and everybody pops their own. And then the bill is like 40 bucks at the end of the night because everyone's just.

[Dante]

Yeah, it's great.

[Una]

We were saying because, I mean, I kind of told do this, but like me, Tommy, Una recorded yesterday. Whatever. But Tommy was saying, like, it's going to be so weird now going to a bar not without a camera and.

[Kevin]

Like you're just a regular person again.

[Una]

Having to like wait in line like all that. They really like rolled out the.

[Kevin]

What was up? I wish Tommy was here. Was. Was there really some Tommy. Ella going on or was that for cameras?

[Dante]

No, no, it was real.

[Una]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, how did that end up.

[Kevin]

I didn't.

[Una]

She ended up kind of like getting freaked out, I think with the. With all the pressure on it. But I think that he. I didn't really realize until yesterday until he was sitting down here. He like really liked her.

[Kevin]

Oh, I. I didn't know that. I thought it was. If I had to guess, I would have thought it was me the other way around. Tom is more into her than she was into him.

[Una]

Tommy is more into her than she's in him.

[Kevin]

Interesting.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

I think if they weren't on camera, they would have definitely went smooth and they were hooked up. Yeah.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And you. And you hooked up with that chick that. That one night that was like in the mix.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

What were you doing when you were just like watching something on your. On your laptop?

[Dante]

No, I was trying to finish the song. The El song that.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Dante]

Okay. Made.

[Kevin]

I saw that. I was like, what are you doing, dude?

[Dante]

No, I had to. I had to get it out.

[Kevin]

Cuz that was awesome, by the way.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Had to get dope.

[Dante]

Had to get it done for Spotify. Oh, it was so good. I didn't want to whiff and put it out in two weeks.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smart man.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Was that weird for you? I don't know if I. The whole thing. I. I do not think I could. My nightmare is people watching me, like in a romantic setting. You know what I mean? Even like. Like Nikki was so. Nikki was funny because he was so you could tell that he was putting like all of his self worth into like, does he have game and is he smooth and is he. So there's that element of it where if people are watching you, like, try to be smooth and you suck at it. That's embarrassing. But also I wouldn't want people watching me be successful at it. Like, I don't. I don't want people seeing that at all. And I definitely don't want people watching me, like, kiss in a bar or something. I don't know how you guys do that.

[Dante]

Would not agree more.

[Kevin]

Like, that is. That's my nightmare.

[Dante]

Could not agree more. And it was maybe when I was younger.

[Una]

Yeah, it's like all I did. So.

[Kevin]

Maybe if I was younger, maybe if I grew up, up more like, you got. The Internet has been, like, so a part of every, like, since you were born. I don't know. To me, I was just like, hats off because I don't know if I could do that.

[Una]

It made me want to crawl into a hole and, like, die, like, after the fact. And like, I also didn't realize because I wouldn't really look at clips. I didn't realize I started looking at them yesterday. Like, I thought that there was like, two clips of me kissing on camera. It's all of them. It's all of the clips.

[Kevin]

I do feel like you kind of got painted. Like, they, they were just like, that's the story. That's the angle. You're not. They're not going to show Jackie doing basically anything else.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Because they want Janny. So it's like you could be doing this solo or playing a game or dancing or hanging with the girls or whatever it is. They're like, we'll wait for the Janny content.

[Una]

I will say, like, my only regret is that I don't think that I, like, did anything else, like, or I think off camera, like, I was hanging out. But I, but I also, like, I.

[Kevin]

Don'T think you could have done anything differently there.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Like in I, I feel like you could have did.

[Dante]

You had the rope swing of the month.

[Una]

I had the rope swing of the month. And people are talking.

[Dante]

Did you see that? They saw that.

[Kevin]

Let me see.

[Una]

I no, no. I actually can't bring it up because I don't want to see myself, like, I can't did.

[Kevin]

Was it actually good or.

[Dante]

Yeah, there was these little, like, Tarzan kids, like, whipping themselves off it. And then all of a sudden, Brie and Jackie go up there and, like, put these kids in a body bag. Jackie, you released so high. I was like, like, holy. It reminded me of Maddie at Camp Barstool getting blasted off the blob.

[Kevin]

I I, it's only, it's just like, you know, if you want to find a moment, you can. That's my only, my only problem with the format is, like, it's just impossible. Yeah. But yeah, you know, you know when you're like the Couple. That's. That's your angle. You know, you're the old guy. They're the couple. They're the party animals. They're. There's the beef, like all that sort of. But I, I did notice. I don't know if you paid attention, but right after the Love island finale aired, Brian and Amaya broke up. Iris and Pepe broke up.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Pretty much signaling like this is almost contractual. Like.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

You cannot break up until this season is over, you know. Oh, so now the season's over. What can we expect from Danny? I imagine if Dan, if Jackie was just like, we're done, dude. You, I've been putting out with you for three more weeks. We're done.

[Una]

No, I think I like keeping saying this. I'm very taken aback how.

[Kevin]

Sorry sound great Bab.

[Una]

I'm very taken aback how our whole.

[Dante]

House sounds like that. Yeah.

[Kevin]

That. That was the only thing by the wait. Finishing the whole time just by how.

[Una]

Much I like him. Like I think I. No, I, I like this. I think it start. It started out like I was kind of like leaning into it and then.

[Kevin]

You mean like for the cameras or.

[Una]

Like not for the cameras. Just cuz I was just like, I don't know. This is like what everyone's filming every time we're talking, whatever. Then I wasn't expecting him to be like, just like.

[Kevin]

So he's the man.

[Una]

Great. Like in like every single. It was like mostly like off camera. I would just be like, whoa. Like you're like so great. Like everything's my heart.

[Kevin]

He makes my heart warm. I mean I, I like knew I love Danny. I've said it a million times. Danny and Jackie are like my two favorite people at the company. When there was even like in the very beginning when he started joking about it, that kiss cam video joke, like all that. I was very like I would love this to happen. But I told her, I was like, I don't. If you don't want to date something, don't get forced into dating someone because of like the Internet or whatever. So I'm very happy to hear that it's. It's actually at least on your side.

[Una]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Kevin]

Imagine the act today. Danny's like this. That show is the worst. Yeah.

[Una]

Because what if so cold hearted. So I was just kind of like when you, when you were like joking about it, I was like like, yeah. But I was like, I know myself like I'm gonna like, I'm gonna turn into the cold hearted that I am.

[Kevin]

And then you're not a cold hearted. You might say that about yourself. You're not.

[Una]

Yeah, you, You.

[Kevin]

I. I think you.

[Dante]

Well, whatever.

[Kevin]

You know yourself better than me. But I just feel like you have said before that you almost kind of like shut down or push people away. I don't think that's necessarily being cold hearted. I think it's like, I don't know what to do in the relationship setting or whatever. I think it's more like nervous or whatever. Not like, I don't think anybody would ever call you.

[Dante]

I would never.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dante]

Never think that.

[Kevin]

I know.

[Una]

I feel like.

[Kevin]

But I just feel like from having heard, like, your dating stories, it's like you're trying and. And it hasn't worked out, and then I think that becomes like a cycle. Not. But I don't think it's like you. You're like, oh, I met another great guy and I shut him down because I'm a stone cold. I think it's.

[Una]

Yeah, I guess it's been like strictly felons.

[Kevin]

Oh, two. One would say. Too many felons in your dating history.

[Una]

One. One would probably say that.

[Kevin]

Yes. But yeah. So no, no. No breakup now.

[Dante]

The season's over again.

[Una]

We'll see.

[Tommy]

We'll find out.

[Dante]

I think things are gonna go 10 million times better.

[Kevin]

Of course. I mean, you can have like an actual.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I mean, the only thing is the. The long distance element. Like, at least, you know, every week you guys are coming together. But what if you're one of those couples that, you know, fell in love with the Jersey Shore? It's a little bit different than the traditional. We fell in love at the Jersey Shore. You were on a reality show, but it could be.

[Una]

We'll see.

[Kevin]

Where was your first kiss? At the shore. Was that. Was it at the beach or was it a bar or the house? Either way, it's a Jersey Shore story.

[Una]

I don't know.

[Kevin]

I mean, we know where the first time that was in the house.

[Una]

Yeah, exactly. That was that house.

[Kevin]

House almost fell down.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Shaking the foundation. Echoing through the hallways.

[Una]

You know what? But then it made it also. First of all, nobody talks about Dante's echoing.

[Kevin]

Did you make an echo?

[Una]

Oh, my God.

[Kevin]

Did you make it? Yeah.

[Dante]

No.

[Kevin]

Look at him. I was like, oh, was she echoing or he echoing? Shoot, they echo.

[Una]

I. You know what? I don't. I don't need to give away somebody else's audio.

[Dante]

It's all right. It's out there.

[Una]

Yeah, exactly. It's almost free when it's out there.

[Kevin]

What was the audio posted?

[Una]

No.

[Kevin]

Okay. No, but the audio is had. Like, it's captured. Do you think? No, I don't even think because I remember them. They. When Jackie was saying, like, do we have to post the texts? When. With her drama, Gaz said to me it was either the text or the audio. So I think the text are the better of the two. It's like you're. You're literally a sick fuck. But so, yeah, your audio is probably on somebody's phone. Dante. No, that's the other thing. Do they. Do they like, delete? Oh, okay.

[Una]

So I was just like, cool.

[Kevin]

So you were just sitting there listening to being like, Dante, make it echo.

[Una]

I could do something really funny right now, dude.

[Dante]

What it like, did you total her Just exposed. Just entire life exposed for a month. I know the most up.

[Kevin]

It always cracks me up when people are like, until you've done anything even remotely related to reality tv, you don't understand. So when people are like, why are you crying? Like, you're supposed to be there for fun. Or like, oh, you could win money at this. Why don't. Like, until you've had your life on blast, you don't get it. So shut the.

[Una]

The best storyline I think of the whole thing was just Dante not realizing these on reality show the entire time.

[Kevin]

I mean, the final night of the final week, you're like, there's. They're filming us, you know? Right. How about that? That thing Tommy posted where you were like, did you take that photo when he was in the photo with you, both hands fried.

[Dante]

It was so fried yesterday. I meant, was that on your phone?

[Kevin]

Okay, but did she take that? Like, But I never.

[Dante]

I was like, I don't even remember taking that. Where did that come from? Was that on your phone? But it came out. Did you take that? He was just like, tati, come on.

[Kevin]

You really offered a great comedic relief on some of those moments that are just like old guy moments. Like, I would for sure have them too. Like, we're not ancient, but there's just a little. I. I always. In general, not just barstool stuff, reality stuff. It's like I am watching myself in real time become a dad. Like, the jokes that I make, the things that I say. Like, when me and my kids, like, get up to leave, I'm like, everybody ready to rock and roll? What? Why did I just say that? Like, that's such an old man dad thing. You know, they walk in, I'm like, what's shaking, bacon? Am I doing? And. And. But it just like happens. So I can imagine being like 40 in a beach house, being very different than I was at 25, having questions, doing weird things.

[Dante]

Just like, it was tough.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And you had nobody. Like, nobody was even close to your age. Right.

[Dante]

Showed such restraint with the music selections.

[Kevin]

Oh, I can't even.

[Dante]

That were going on. I can't even all we, like, I don't think I've, I, I, I totally. I've never understood Drake's streams after being in a house with Nikki smokes and Tommy smokes for a month. I get it. I understand. You know what all we heard.

[Kevin]

But you know what it is? I, I honestly, like, if I was in that setting, I would probably just put on Drake too. Because it's like, you know, you're good.

[Dante]

You know what I mean?

[Kevin]

Like, there's not enough good music. If, if it was our day, you could put on like, yes, top 40, whatever, and it's just Nelly and Jay Z, whatever. Like hits after hits.

[Dante]

That's true.

[Kevin]

If now I put on like a top 40, just like, here's a random playlist. Half of them would be terrible. Not the right vibe. So it's like, I don't know, just put on Drake. You're gonna get some rapping, some R B, some party. You're good.

[Dante]

It's true. At least I knew the songs as opposed to like when they were playing the apm. The. Yeah, right.

[Kevin]

That sucks, dude.

[Dante]

The first like few days of that, I was like, oh my God, I'm so out of the loop.

[Kevin]

Oh, so you didn't realize that it was, it was just generic music. Yeah, I've never even heard this random beat with no words.

[Dante]

I'm like, nikki Smokes is on some. Like, I've never even heard of Yo.

[Kevin]

The funniest thing maybe of the whole for me was when they were, you guys were sitting around the table just like pregaming, listening to music. And then it was like, you're listening to dj. I was like, oh, this. Playing his own mix. Those mixes were great though, man. That's your, that's your lasting, like, offering to this world. Your magnum opus is those, those mixes.

[Dante]

The restraint with the music. And then also just being so confused by this generation slang.

[Kevin]

I was gonna say the lingo. I bet you have no idea.

[Dante]

I was like, and not to sound like a old washed up dude, but half, three quarters of the shit isn't even funny.

[Kevin]

Or like, this is old people talk though.

[Dante]

I'm like, at least our stuff was like clever funny.

[Kevin]

I mean, the other generation Said that about our shit. This is just how it goes, bro. Although, no, I will give you this because I've. I've. This is. This is like probably the number one thing in my mind at all times as I've gotten older is thinking, am I just getting old or am I right? And I think with the music, I'm right.

[Dante]

Yes.

[Kevin]

Like, I think the music is objectively bad. Worse. And the fact that like these guys will still listen to music from our generation, it's like. But the lingo and stuff is probably. I don't know, I think it sounds pretty stupid. But these are all just like made up words.

[Una]

Can you guys give examples of lingo that you think is stupid?

[Kevin]

What did you. What did you hear that you were like, most confused by?

[Dante]

I can't. I don't even know how to pronounce it. Like the whole uno was breaking down. The whole Chuz or Chaz or Chuds chopped. No, I only. I got that.

[Una]

Riz.

[Dante]

No, like Chuz.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like.

[Una]

I feel like she has other lingo.

[Kevin]

That I'm like, well, that's. There's. There's levels to the lingo. You know what I mean? Like, I know my kids lingo better than the middle generation. Like, I know mine.

[Dante]

They got one too. Oh, yeah.

[Kevin]

I mean, I also set a record this weekend for the most just dad jokes in general, but the most six, seven dad jokes that could possibly exist. Six, seven is the stupidest of them all. Do you know six, seven?

[Dante]

Yes.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

What is that?

[Kevin]

Like that. That is where I'm like, this is objectively stupider. Yeah.

[Dante]

What is it?

[Kevin]

Some dude. Well, I just. I just watched like the origin video this. This weekend. Somebody, I think it was like, give this a rating or something. He like, it was food, a drink, something like that. It was like a guy who was like a streamer. Someone somewhat popular on the Internet. Nobody, I don't think massive. And they said like, what do you give that? And he was like, six, seven. That's it.

[Dante]

That's it.

[Kevin]

And then like somebody used it in their video or like a music drop or whatever it was. And so, I mean, I said it 50, 000 times this weekend that my kids were like, enough like, like one of the Keegan, like a lot of his shirts, he just turned 8. So a lot of his shirts are like from a year ago, say six, seven. So we're getting ready to go. Like I throw him the shirt. I'm like, what size is that? And Shay knew exactly what I was doing. She looks at me, she's like, Keegan's like, six, seven. I was like, six, seven. I mean, I did it 100 times. That's. That's. I know that better than I know, like, probably what Una and them are.

[Una]

Saying would legitimately say. She'd be like, oh, he's aura farming, bro.

[Tommy]

I was, yeah, yeah.

[Una]

Are you, dude, yeah.

[Kevin]

Some of that. It's hot. That's when you really feel like you're oldest, where it's like, if I were to sit down, I would think in my. In my. My perception, I could sit down at any table of people drinking and eating and talking and laughing and joking and fit in, and I could, and I would sit down with them. And I don't know the music and I don't know what you're saying, and I don't know why you're laughing. It's like, nah, passes you quick. But I'd rather. I'd rather be this than, like, knowing it. Like, if you were running around being like, yo, that dude. That Dude's not even 6, 7. He's Chuz. I'd be like, you are a loser, dude. You know?

[Dante]

Agreed. But you're right, It. It happened quick.

[Kevin]

That. That's when I know, like, as I aged at barstools, like, especially being at barstool, like, I am way more in touch than my friends are. If you're not on the Internet, like, you. You know, you don't even know six, seven, Riz, right? Or a farm, you know, you never seen these words. So I am, like, still more plugged in than the average, like, 40 year old with kids, you know? But when that started to go, I was like. It made me realize I was like, oh, you. You really have, like a prime when it comes to making content. It's like sports. It's longer. And you're not like, gonna be like, you don't have to retire. But it's like, I really can't reach, like, the 18 to 24 market the way that I would like to. Or, you know, I can, but they're never gonna be like, oh, yeah, he's like one of us, right? Because I'm, you know, I was playing video games with Keegan and he did something cool, and I was like, oh, that's dope. And then he just started going. He just started using dope, like, totally wrong. Like, it put it every which way. But I was like, yeah, he's never even heard. I'm gonna start saying, like, fat and the bomb. Get my kid. That probably Will come back around.

[Dante]

Remember that?

[Kevin]

Fat. Fat was ridiculous. Dude, that's fat.

[Dante]

Yeah, it was.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Fat farm. You ever wear fat Farm?

[Dante]

Some ridiculous. No, I did not.

[Kevin]

Oh, my God. I would love. I wish I still had my old wardrobe. I would love to do, like, a video of, like, get ready with me 2003. And I'm just wearing, like, Sean Jones was actually nice.

[Dante]

What else was there?

[Kevin]

Echo Raw.

[Dante]

Or what was the one with the Rhino logo?

[Kevin]

Echo.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And then there was the Mecca and fubu. I wouldn't touch as, like, FUBU is literally, like, in the name. Not for us.

[Dante]

Yes.

[Kevin]

And then Mecca. I was just like, I don't know what's going on there. I'm not wearing something that says Mecca, though. I know that it's 2002. I'm not wearing something that says Mecca right now. That was that time, man. I dressed, like, so ridiculous. I always, like, think my parents must.

[Dante]

Have just been like, I know.

[Kevin]

Okay. He's wearing, like, you know, a gigantic pair of pants with, like, a bucket hat and, like, oh, what? You know, I had, like, shirts with rubber. Like, the rubber logos come off the shirt same.

[Dante]

My God.

[Una]

Was your choice to wear the early barstool shirts? Like, is that your style or is that.

[Kevin]

Were those new?

[Dante]

No, those are original. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Dude, did you. Were they unworn?

[Dante]

Yeah, but I'm basically like. I just.

[Kevin]

Because that looked crisp, like, the colors and the black.

[Dante]

Yeah, I had.

[Kevin]

So you just kept those all these years?

[Dante]

I had them. I had them in storage.

[Kevin]

And I was like, that was a move.

[Dante]

Finally break these out for something.

[Kevin]

Like, John John speculated that you had new ones printed. They look so fresh.

[Dante]

So did Fasoli.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

The two Psycho.

[Kevin]

No, but it. But I mean, I see for sure. It almost makes more sense than, like, you had a perfectly preserved one in ready, like, in the tuck.

[Dante]

Yeah, no, I have. I have so much of that stuff from, like, when we were on tour. It was just too much to wear. Can I get some of that away? I'm like. I'm weird with, like, sentimental. So I was like, someday I'll look back on this and be like, yeah, I remember this from.

[Kevin]

No, I wish I had more of that stuff, specifically merch from, like, back in the day.

[Dante]

But, yeah, I roll into Wisconsin, and first thing Facility says to me. He's like, where? I had the old Goodell sweatshirt on hoodie that we sold for, like, a minute in the store. And he's like, where. Where are you getting all this?

[Kevin]

Of course, Fasoli was like, yeah, you know how do I get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dante]

And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, where are you getting. I'm like, I have it all. And he's like, I know, but did you, like, have them remade? They. They look brand new. I'm like, no, I just have never worn them. And he. I could just tell. The look in his eyes. Skeptical of. I'm like, are you that, like, psychotic about everything? Barstool. But then, of course, John just has to think like, no, Dante's not rational.

[Kevin]

No. Yeah, the John. The John Dante. We need. We need a Dante show.

[Dante]

I'm kind of like. I'm not gonna lie. I'm kind of sad that he's not here.

[Kevin]

I know. It would be good. It would have been good because he would. He wouldn't. Like, he would call you out on absolute. He doesn't give you an inch, bro.

[Dante]

Oh, no.

[Kevin]

You could say anything.

[Dante]

No chance at all. He was. He texted me something complimentary. It was either last weekend or this past week.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

He was like, dante's like, my number one. Like, I watch for him and only him.

[Dante]

I was like, yeah, okay.

[Kevin]

Like, I wouldn't believe that.

[Dante]

I was. I don't even want to respond to this because I'm walking into a trap.

[Kevin]

Or something, but that shirt, though, that's fire, man. That's. That's like a relic.

[Dante]

He would have. He would have been. I was begging him to come for just one night.

[Kevin]

I wish I had known when she did the wedding. We would have been great. That wedding would have been perfect for us to go down.

[Dante]

Oh.

[Kevin]

Oh.

[Dante]

How did you not tell them?

[Una]

I didn't know.

[Kevin]

I didn't know, like, materialize until it was like. Like, that day. Would you have.

[Dante]

Seriously?

[Kevin]

Yes, dude. That would have. I would have walked her down the aisle. You kidding me?

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Initially, I was thinking I would have loved to do it, but then I saw it was J. Wow. And I was like, all right, that's better.

[Dante]

Nuts.

[Kevin]

I told her, like, because they didn't watch Jersey Shore, I was, like, doing one of those fake frat sorority weddings at the Jersey Shore, and being married by J. Wow. Is like getting to play one on one with Michael Jordan. It's like you did something that, like, the world will, like, love forever.

[Dante]

Insane.

[Kevin]

Just the fact that J. Wow. I said her, like, Instagram story, like, in the morning was at, like, her son's soccer game, and in the afternoon, she's marrying these guys at a beach house.

[Dante]

That's what I. That's what I said to her and her boyfriend, I was like, the fact you guys came this far for this, like, you're the best people.

[Kevin]

Where'd they come from?

[Dante]

Like, an hour and a half away.

[Kevin]

It was. He was that gigantic guy in the. In that clip.

[Dante]

He's a huge stud.

[Kevin]

Huge.

[Dante]

I didn't realize after. He's a. He's a wrestler.

[Kevin]

Yeah. That makes. That checks out. That checks out.

[Dante]

But, yeah, they were super nice.

[Kevin]

They're the best. They're the best, man. I thought maybe Paula D. Was going to come after you were talking to him. Was there any chatter about that?

[Dante]

Dude? We were. When this got announced, he was, like, one of the first people I hit up.

[Kevin]

And I was like, you're just friends with him? Like, they're DJing and stuff?

[Dante]

Yeah, I knew him before the show.

[Kevin]

Wow. Because he was older, we used to.

[Dante]

Go to this club in Providence.

[Kevin]

Oh, right. Because he's Providence. So he was like, oh, hell, when.

[Dante]

We were, like, 14 years old, dude.

[Kevin]

Oh, so you, like, knew him as a kid?

[Dante]

Providence gave no.

[Kevin]

Like, so you grew up there?

[Dante]

No, we. We would drive there because they didn't give a. Like, you could show a, like, library card.

[Kevin]

You're getting in.

[Dante]

Yeah, like, a library card. And they would be like, okay, come drink. Like, the mob ran everything. So we were going down there, and he would DJ at this place. And he's really good friends with my friend Vinnie. And, yeah, I knew him, like, through the DJ circle before. He was, like, Jersey Shore polyd. But when the show got announced, I was like, oh, this is gonna be great. Like, he's got a residency, Jersey Shore. He'll definitely be there. One of those weekends, we'll go there and, like, hang out. Like, yeah, rip it up. And this was, like, the first time in, like, seven years he didn't have a show the entire month of August or Labor Day weekend. This was like.

[Kevin]

But he should just come and kick it, just hang out, you know?

[Dante]

I know.

[Kevin]

I was really hoping the Love island guys were going to come too. I know they were so into it, but they just have, like, too many. Too many hoops to jump through with. With Peacock. But they were like, that was, I think, the first weekend, maybe second weekend.

[Una]

Yeah, they were gonna come. They, like.

[Kevin]

I was like, these three guys are gonna roll in, and this show is gonna explode even more than it already is. And they just weren't allowed to, like, all right.

[Dante]

I was completely out of the loop on that whole show. I, I, I heard about it too late. I didn't Want to go back and, like, what?

[Kevin]

It's a phenomenon?

[Dante]

Yeah. What?

[Kevin]

Because I'll tell you why. Like, it's. It's. It's a good reality show when it comes terms to, like, sex and breakups and fighting. But it's every single night. How? Like, it's five. Five full nights a week, and then the sixth night is like a recap show and they get one night off, and it's like in real time. 40 episodes. Yeah, it's probably like six if you. If you make it the whole way. You're on it for like six weeks, but it's like a nightly. It's like watching a sport. It's like every night at 9 o', clock, there's another episode, and they. And it's like. I think it's like 24 to 36 hours ago.

[Dante]

Production wise.

[Kevin]

That's. That's my favorite part about it. I know it's like gay and lame and silly. Like, you're an old man. You watch this. But from a content point of view, I just feel like it puts other shows and other producers on blast that it's like, why does it take the Bachelor six months to come up with an episode? They did it in 24 hours.

[Dante]

That's crazy.

[Kevin]

They cobble them together with the challenges and the confessionals and the sex and the fights and, like, all that.

[Dante]

It's in, like, real time, and it's in real time.

[Kevin]

So they end. The. The craziest thing about it is you don't have your phone, obviously, on these shows, right. So you get voted off, you leave. Whatever. You walk out to fame. Like, you walk out. You have 2 million followers. You went in with 50,000. You went in with, like, zero. You were nobody. And you come out like one of the most famous people in America. And you're not an athlete or an entertainer or something. Where you. Now, I'm sure if you get on Love island, you have these guys even had people running their socials and shit, so they knew. But, like, probably as soon as. Like as early as one season ago, I feel like people just didn't even realize, you know? So to me, you know, yeah, it's like kind of trashy reality show and girly and guilty pleasure shit. But there's also a lot of, like, fascinating production, cultural fame, all that stuff. Like, there's a lot of stuff around.

[Dante]

It's like Megan the Stallion was on an episode.

[Kevin]

Yeah. They have, like, guests come and, like, host for the night and do a challenge, and they do a really good.

[Una]

Job of the producers. I mean, it's like cutthroat. And I think, like, we'll look back on and be like, it's not okay. But, like, anytime a storyline gets slightly boring, they do something, like, to it.

[Kevin]

They have. They have therapists on set. Like, you have to go to mandated therapy like, every day or some, because it's like we're. You know, you're not talking to your family. You have no connection to the outside world. You're falling in love, but then you're getting cheated on, and you're falling in love with a new person. And, you know, whatever. It's. It's crazy, but, you know, voting people.

[Dante]

Off and adding new people.

[Kevin]

Yeah. So the whole thing is, like, you start off with a crew of, like, four or five people, six people, whatever it is, they link up, they, like, fall in love, and then they're like, here's six new, like, unbelievably hot. Three girls, three guys. And then you're like, okay, wait a minute. I actually like that person. And then from there, it just goes, you know? But that's why I think they kind of changed the game with, like, how much they put out. And then you guys, like, really changed the game with this idea of, like, actual real time, you know, it was pretty.

[Dante]

I'm not gonna lie, it was pretty cool walking into this just completely blind, having no clue. Like. Like, I would. I was asking Chuck and Gaz ahead of time. Gaz was just like, talk to Chuck. So I was like, chuck, what is like. Like, my. My friends are asking, like, how do we even watch this? I'm like, that.

[Kevin]

The only problem. I think it's revolutionary and it's trailblazing and it's cool, but, like, I think there should have been a hybrid where there was also a episode that comes out, you know?

[Dante]

So I was asking him, like, well, how is this going to. And he was just like, just trust me, Joe. Just like, don't worry about it. Just trust me. So I walked into this completely clueless and seeing they were so confident and committed to doing it and seeing people eat it up and love it. Like, I was like, I love when people take risks. And, yeah, it works like that. Like, I was like, I think that.

[Kevin]

I mean, for better or worse, like, I. I wish the world was a little more long form and attention span and all that, but it's just not so. Like, I. I almost feel like even podcasts are at a level where I think you should almost record a podcast for clips, rather than a clip being promotion. Go watch this episode. It's like we talked for an hour and we probably got like 10 good moments, like scrap the rest, you know, which kind of sucks in my mind. But also that's just the way it's going. So, like. Yeah, no, no surprise that also this type of content, if you're the type to watch drunk people around and hooking up and fighting, like, you're probably the type on tick tock and scrolling and all that. You know what I mean? So it's not like you're not watching the Godfather here. You know, you don't need like the whole thing. But yeah, it's all very interesting. You guys, you guys did it. Good job. I'm always very appreciative. I always. I always reached out to anybody who ever fought in rough and rowdy, anybody who ever did like the crazy reality stuff, like anything that. Well, now it's when we were like, really on the come up, like, I. And it was very reliant upon the OGs for content when there would be something like rough and rowdy or those shows I'm talking about that I could or would never do. I was always very. I always reached out to everybody, like, thank you. And that was awesome because I would never get in a boxing ring for this company. And you did, you know, and that's. And, And I feel like the same way with this too. Like, I would really never do this. Wouldn't want to do this. But I'm happy that you guys did do it because I think it was very good for business, good for all your careers, all that. So. Thank you.

[Dante]

Me too. Thanks, man.

[Kevin]

Gotta run with it, man. You need a show called Ankh. Yeah, they're actually. No, no joke. There is a world where, like, I think you should. If you did something called, like, Unk, there's just like an Instagram series where it's just like, I don't know the words, I don't know the lingo. There's a lot of people who would like, be like, I don't know that. And then go either be. Be like the. I'm the gap. I'm bridging the gap between the old generation and the new generation to teach you guys.

[Dante]

Well, I'm hoping Danny's like, so smart when it comes to that stuff.

[Una]

Do you.

[Kevin]

You guys have a little like, frenemy thing going on?

[Dante]

No, he's.

[Kevin]

He's.

[Dante]

He's the man. He always has. Okay. He.

[Kevin]

I feel like he busts your. Like, you guys with each other a lot? Yeah.

[Dante]

Yeah, it's like.

[Kevin]

It's all like, friendship.

[Dante]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. At the end of the day, he. I know he has my back, but he is very good at, like, delivering things to me or making things funny without being a dick about it or, like, right. Being like, in totally insulting. So, yeah, with him, pick his feeling. I'm like, trust. Yeah. I feel like I can trust him.

[Kevin]

And maybe. Maybe there's a Janney show and Dante is like the third wheel.

[Dante]

We did do one of the funniest pictures. Did you see the picture of us on the boat the last day?

[Kevin]

Nah.

[Dante]

Where I'm just completely oblivious. I'm sitting there like this and.

[Una]

Oh, yeah.

[Dante]

Danny and Jack here in the middle. And Dev, who Dev was on, she was like in my face the whole month and I was just so, like, giving her. And she's like, sitting here filming, and I'm like, what are. Like, what are you filming? I'm not even doing anything. She's just like, trying not to laugh. And I'm like, you're obsessed with me. And she like, zooms out and Danny just looks at me. He's like, hey, man, are you comfortable? And I'm like, oh, I didn't. Yeah, you're right. This is kind of weird. And then she, like, shows me this picture and it's like those two, like, having a moment, like, sitting with each other. Me with just my arm around them both, basically. I was like, God, what's the group photo thing? Oh, every. The first, like, week, I was like, guys, before we go out tonight, we should take like one group picture. And everyone's like, of course old. The old guy wants a picture picture, blah, blah, blah. And then like the next weekend, I was like, guys, you know, it would be great right now, group pick. And then it became like a big running.

[Kevin]

I miss that.

[Una]

Until like the. The third weekend.

[Kevin]

That makes sense.

[Dante]

But they always came out great. And everyone was like, all right, good call, good call.

[Kevin]

You do need those pictures. Yeah, Yeah.

[Dante]

I sent a text Last night at 1am I think everyone's passed out, but I was like, let me find it. It was actually pretty funny.

[Kevin]

You're like, what's next for you guys?

[Dante]

You guys going to. I go, you guys want to know? It's pretty freaking awesome. He went an hour, no one responded. So I go, okay, don't worry, I'll tell you.

[Una]

15 more minutes.

[Dante]

I go. Seeing everybody post so many awesome group pictures.

[Tommy]

Jackie responded, ah, it's funny.

[Kevin]

Gotta. You got a pity thumbs up from Jackie. Well, you guys did it. You did It.

[Dante]

You did it.

[Kevin]

Good job.

[Una]

Thanks.

[Dante]

Survives.

[Una]

Thanks.

[Kevin]

You happy? You did it.

[Una]

Very happy.

[Kevin]

Would you do it again?

[Una]

Absolutely.

[Dante]

Really?

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Yeah. You really would?

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

How much time would you need?

[Kevin]

Yeah. If they said, actually we're gonna go three more weekends right now, would you be cool with that?

[Una]

Oh.

[Kevin]

Or would you need, like.

[Una]

I mean, do it? I actually think, like, though my one goal, like, kind of what I said, like, I just want to, like, not spiral. Was, like, getting mentally tougher. Like, I. I don't care as much about comments anymore. And I'd, like, like, that's the win. That's my biggest.

[Kevin]

You did, like, immersion therapy.

[Una]

It was immersion therapy. And so, like, I actually think, like, if you said one more weekend, I could do one more weekend. If you said two more or maybe like, four more weekends, I'd be like, too much.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Una]

But I would.

[Kevin]

How. How was your family with all this?

[Una]

So supportive.

[Kevin]

Sister watch.

[Una]

Yeah, Sister watch. It was definitely, like, a really awkward conversation after the text thing.

[Dante]

Sure.

[Una]

It was, like, that was uncomfortable, but.

[Kevin]

Was there, like, a discussion with your parents about that, or was it kind of like a don't ask, don't tell?

[Una]

It was just like a. Because they were trying to make sure I was okay because.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Una]

So that I was crying.

[Kevin]

I was putting myself in that. I think I was like, text my daughter being like, just like, are you okay? We don't need to talk about this. But, like, are you okay?

[Una]

It was also really sweet that you called me the next morning being like, hey, are you okay? Then you talked me off the ledge. But I, you know, I was just awkward because they're just, like, trying to make sure I was okay without having to, like, talk about, like, actually talk about it. But they were really.

[Kevin]

Jackie was like, I'm great, man.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

It was echoing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm good, dad.

[Una]

But, yeah, it was. They're good about.

[Dante]

Good, good, good. These girls are tough, man. I can't. I think that's why I was like, so I felt so bad about the whole, like, Una situations, because when I, like, actually saw, like, how upset she was, I. I was like. I didn't know. Like, yeah, upset. I feel like guys put up with so much.

[Una]

Everyone should send Una some love. Like, if you're listening, dude, what.

[Kevin]

What Una did is, like, literally unprecedented.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

To be at the company for, like, a month at this company, at this stage in the game.

[Dante]

I know.

[Kevin]

This big. She rolled into, like, a billion dollar company at the age of. Yeah. Like, what, 20, 21, whatever. She is 22, and like, came right into KFC radio and was, like, ready to work. Doing a ton of work with Midnight Bean, like, whatever she's asked. And then thrown into a reality show that we didn't even, like. I couldn't even give her advice, you know, if it was Survivor or something. Like, all right, here's how it's going to go. Here's what you want to do. Here's what you want. I was like, I have no clue. You're on your own. No safety net, no training wheels. And just went.

[Dante]

And a house of, like, pretty big personality.

[Kevin]

Yeah, dude. Just being in a house with, like, Brianna alone is like, what the. And then you have OGs and new people, people hooking up, people fighting. Chicago, New York. Everyone knows everyone except me. Like, that's, that's a hard situation to walk into. Like, just socially, if you walk into a party, like, no one knows me right now, but you're doing it on camera in front of people and they're also like, dance for me. Be funny, be entertaining, be cool, be hot. Be. Fight, fight. But don't be a. Be a. But don't be too. You know what I mean? It's like, it's. It is a very hard thing for anybody to navigate, let alone someone with no experience. No, like, has not gone through the fire yet, does not know how to handle comments, wants to be liked. Want, like, all of that. I. I don't know. I think that was very impressive.

[Dante]

I. I was. Say, it felt totally the same.

[Kevin]

I was campaigning. I mean, I really, I hope she ends up getting a job. Part of me feels like if you did this show, you deserve like a one year deal at least. Like, you went through the fire. Here's, you know, here's, here's enough of like a Runway to try to make something out of it. We'll see what ends up happening. But I feel like whether you liked it, didn't like it, hate her lover, whatever it is, like doing that I think is worthy of some sort of reward, you know, again, for the amount of people here too, that, like, don't do things like that or couldn't do something like that.

[Dante]

No, I couldn't agree more.

[Kevin]

Pot of gold at the end of that rainbow.

[Dante]

Plus, I didn't even know the backstory that she was there, basically because Big Cat was like, she needs to be on the show.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

They needed to balance. It was like Danny wanted.

[Dante]

Right. But like, girls and guys, like, you can't say no.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Like, no shot. There was no shot. I mean, she wanted to don't get me wrong, we talked about it and I was like, I think this is. If you're looking for a job, you need to do something big. It's actually a very. I. I think she's. She's done a little bit of this, but I'd love her to, now that it's over, put together like a whole video or a series. Because so many people are interested about how do you get a job at Barstool? And her journey to at least try to do that is one of a kind, you know, so if you made a. A series of like, hey, if you're looking for a job at Barstool, here's my experience. And go from the application process to becoming an intern, to getting thrown into the fire, to dealing with that, and, you know, hopefully it ends up the job at the end. But even if it doesn't like, that piece of content, I think would be very cool. I think there's a lot of people.

[Dante]

Would be badass, man. I got to like, talk to her a little bit off camera. And she was telling me about, like, her parents, how she was raised, and it all made super smart too.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Parents are like entrepreneurs, like risk takers. Mom's like self trained. James Beard awarding award winning chef.

[Kevin]

Wow.

[Dante]

Runs this restaurant. I was just like, holy. Like, you get to that level, like, you bet on yourself big time a lot. So it makes. It was no surprise seeing that she's like the same way.

[Kevin]

Oh, I. I hope that. I really hope it works out. I mean, if it was up to me, I would just. I would give her a job myself. But it's just like headcount and revenue and all that stuff.

[Una]

It's not extended until the end of the year.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Yeah. So she'll have more time to make it happen. But I almost feel it's like, what else you need to do? Yeah, whatever. That's a different conversation. All right, so anything else on Beach House? I just have a few other. I have a bunch of things actually I wanted to talk about.

[Dante]

What. This is gonna be awkward with Jackie sitting here. But what I. The thing that really, I think, shocked me about being down there for the month and kind of posting up and watching like this generation interact.

[Kevin]

Huh.

[Dante]

The. Our guys had not changed at all. Like, our crew, like Nikki and Tommy are like, out there before Nikki got like, wifed up just talking to every girl they can. That was fine. But there were like, no guys the entire month. Coming up to the girls we were with, I thought it was going to be.

[Kevin]

I Don't know.

[Dante]

It's like, we're going to need way more security than what we have.

[Kevin]

That, that I felt for sure going into it. The only thing I would say, though is like, I don't think, I don't care how hot you are, how cool you seem. There's a bunch of cameras around. I'm not going to you.

[Dante]

But, dude, I would bring this up. And the girls were like, yeah. Do you know what, though? They send us messages saying, hey, I saw you at Leggets tonight. Or Osprey tonight. Like, what's up?

[Kevin]

It's all, it's all the phone, bro.

[Dante]

They, they are that, dude.

[Kevin]

I mean, think of it.

[Dante]

Scared.

[Kevin]

Well, I don't think it's necessarily even scared. I think it's just like the process for them now is like, we had to do that. You, we had to do that. You had to, like, you could maybe like, find a girl on Facebook somehow, some way. That was even kind of weird, right? You had to meet somebody in person, get their number, then you can start talking and all that. But that initial, like, I, I love doing that. It made me scared. It made me nervous. I was embarrassed. I get depressed when I got shot down. But then when you get an even, just get a number, you're happy. And then when you go home with someone, you're like, I'm the man, you.

[Dante]

Know, feeling in the world.

[Kevin]

But then all of a sudden, apps of all kinds, literally, dating apps. And then all these social media apps are just dating apps in disguise, you know, and so you, if you send out a message to 15 girls and 14, don't reply, but one does, like, your job's done. And then you do that for years and years and years. It's just, I just think that's how they operate. I don't even know if it's, I mean, I guess ultimately they all would be, like, scared to do it, but I think it's just like, that's not how we do things, right? You know? But to me, I mean, I don't know, I, I, I, I think I'm happy to hear that Nikki and Tommy were still doing it. So that's still alive in some way. But, like, that's why, you know, I, I would go out with my buddies to have fun. I wouldn't. We, me and John always talk about the guys who are like, I have to get, I gotta get laid. Like, those guys suck, right? The gases of the world. But then you go out with your guys, you don't, like, go out with that Intent, but at least for, like, a little portion of the night, you'd be like, all right, I've drank enough. I'm having fun with buddies. The game is over. Whatever. Me and you, let's go talk to those girls, you know, and it works. It doesn't work. Whatever. You come back like, that was life, right? 100. They just don't. I don't even know. What are you guys doing at the bar? If you're not trying to talk to new people and, like, all that, it's like, you might as well just stay at home, stay with your crew at the house.

[Una]

It is true. It's not like, like, the girls were flocking. The guys, the guy, the guys.

[Kevin]

I, I, I. I really think. I think they need to, like, write a book on how bad probably your generation fumbled the power of the. They just. They gave it away on the apps. They gave it, like, you gave way too much power to the guys.

[Una]

No, but I feel like the girls would come up to, like, Tommy and whatever, and they would, like, that's what. They weren't afraid, like, of the cameras. They would, like.

[Kevin]

But I. I almost feel like that, you know, like, it should be the other way around, but you guys let it get to a point where you have to go up to them.

[Dante]

Agreed.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

If you want to go up, fine. It's just a world where, like, if you. I mean, pretty girls used to be able to walk in and just sit there and wait, and then they would be like, get the away. And it's like, it was the meanest, worst feeling in the world, and. But I wouldn't even be like you. I'd be like, that's how this goes.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Like, you are the prize for it. And if you say no, then that's that.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Una]

But it does feel. I feel like, more so, like, we don't have to wait on the sidelines for somebody.

[Kevin]

True. You know, again, if you want to and you're aggressive about it, fine. But if it's like, like, well, they're never gonna come talk to us, so we got to go over there. That feels like the. The system is broken it, dude.

[Dante]

That's all I. I kept thinking as I was just like, man, if I had a place like this at these kids his age with my friend, like you said, if I rolled in here with my single friends at this age, this would be heaven.

[Kevin]

We literally. My crew always did it wrong because we always had friend girlfriends.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Either literally girlfriends or friends who were girls because we also needed the money. So we Wanted to like, rent a mansion. We needed a thousand bucks from 15 people. And you bring a couple girlfriends, friends who are girls, whatever. And then, you know, there are people, guys who have crushes on them, but they're friend zoned and they don't want to bring home another girl to mess that up or they can't bring home another girl, or if you do bring home another girl, these girls are upset with it. It's just the way to really do that. And that was. I had a blast doing that. But you, what you really should do is at least a couple summers here and there where you just go with your guy friends and you're animals. You're just animals about it. You know, no rules, anything goes. And then you can do it with. When you're in relationships or with other girls or whatever. But yeah, if you really like, do it right in that way where it's just like endless. It's just from Memorial Day to Labor Day is, is the journey. You know, I believe it because we, I, I told. There's a lot of people don't do this. I've said this so many times on the podcast. I don't know about other regions and. But if you're from New York, New Jersey, whatever, get a Hamptons house or get a New Jersey house. To me it was like, it's better than college. Like post college. Doing that is the most fun I've ever had. Whether you're every night or you're just partying, just hanging out, whatever. It is the most fun I've ever had.

[Dante]

We had, we had a great house, by the way, and we were situated next to. I. I would call them like trap houses. Yeah, there was a lot that clearly the house got washed away in the hurricane. Instead of rebuilding, they built two, like little shacks, right? Trailers.

[Kevin]

Yeah, they have, they, they have addresses down there that are half, like 301 and a half where it's like.

[Dante]

That was definitely. Yeah. But there were two on the same lot. Like they back to back and then they were split. So there was like, instead of two groups, there was four in sharing this one lot. And then behind us there was another same situation. And yeah, these kids were out all day, every day. Animals.

[Kevin]

Beer dye, beer pong.

[Dante]

Beer dye beer pong kegs cooking out. That's how like the ribs showed up on our. I don't know if you saw.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The mystery ribs just appeared.

[Dante]

We found the guy the second to last day. The Ribbler, they called him. That's funny. But yeah, I mean, They I was just like, man, this has gotta be.

[Kevin]

And then. And people just do it all. Every summer, all summer.

[Dante]

Like, you know, dude, I don't blame them.

[Kevin]

Memorial Day hits, let's do it again.

[Dante]

I mean, we.

[Kevin]

Did you, did you guys get. I know we talked about a little bit. There was the one dude who. I don't even want to mention his name or give him any, any credit because he was absolutely unbearable. But were there any locals that were like, like I used to get a lot of being a Benny. Like the locals from New Jersey would be like these New Yorkers who come down for the summer. And I was worried about you guys with cameras and the barstool name.

[Dante]

What's Ben?

[Kevin]

Benny means between. It's between Newark and NY I think is like the phrase. So it's like people who live between Newark and. And New York City come down, no.

[Dante]

Clue what it meant.

[Kevin]

Yeah, they call them Benny, these Bennies. And like my friends were like, really? From the Jersey shore. So they would always give me a hard time and I would argue like, you need us. We, we. You take our money all summer, but no, you know, we're not good enough for you. Like, and it was kind of a fun thing, but there are people who take it like very seriously who are losers. So I was wondering if you were going to get a lot of locals who were like.

[Dante]

We had a lot of like older couples, like back to your point, who would be like, we would go home with merch every night.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

And like we'd wear it around kick especially. And people would be like, oh, I love that bar. I met my wife there. Like we've been together, you know, 25 years. There was a lot of that then there was a lot of people that were like older and they, I think they gravitated towards me because I was close to their age. But they were like, you know, what do you guys think? We're watching your show. And I was like, please don't. We're watching your show. Like, what do you think about the area? Blah, blah. And you know, support. So happy that we appreciated it.

[Kevin]

And to me it's like, you know when you show someone a movie that you've seen before or you take them to a restaurant that you like and you're like excited for them to experience it, you know, that is to me what I felt like, I can't wait for you guys to see this. And I think that's what like, well adjusted normal people think it's just the weirdos who are like, I'm from Manospawn and you're not. So, like, you're not allowed.

[Dante]

Okay.

[Una]

Our neighbors seriously looked like they were like, doing some kind of Pauly D, like, dress up party every single time. Like, we couldn't tell if it was like, a dress.

[Kevin]

Are they.

[Una]

They're like, probably like a little younger.

[Kevin]

But yeah, I mean, they were just like.

[Una]

They had a. Yeah, they just had a sharehouse.

[Kevin]

It was so.

[Una]

They looked so Jersey Shore. I was like, oh, yeah, it was great.

[Kevin]

That's. I do like that. You get. You do get a little taste of that. Like, it's nice and it's a hidden little gem, but also you will run into Jersey.

[Dante]

I have a. I have a question for you. I'm so glad I remembered. Who are the Jenkinsons?

[Kevin]

Like, the people, dude, I don't know.

[Dante]

I mean, are they just like. Are they like the original settlers? Like, they own everything?

[Kevin]

I mean, the Jenkinson family in New Jersey might be like, Rockefeller dude. Yeah.

[Dante]

That boardwalk is at Jenkinson Aquarium, Jenkins and Amusements Jank.

[Kevin]

It's like, I don't think every single.

[Dante]

Thing on that boardwalk they own.

[Kevin]

I've never thought about that. The history of Jenkinson's boardwalk.

[Dante]

I kept, I. I kept asking my Mike. Mike, you know everything about this area. You don't know anything about this family. He's like, all I know.

[Kevin]

Here you go. Here you go. He's the early 1900s, Charles Jenkinson opened soda fountains in Asbury park and Oceans, Ocean Grove and, yeah, Point Pleasant, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it sounds like it just started out as like a little, you know, get a drink, get some food, and spiraled from there.

[Dante]

Wow, that's crazy. He said Mike was. Mike's like, the only. The only thing I know about him is the only thing that they don't own is Martel's. And they've been trying for like 50 years to take it off. Won't give it to him. That place was awesome, by the way.

[Kevin]

There's so many good spots, man.

[Dante]

So we had such a good time. That was another reason that we walked in the day. We threw the day party. And I saw they had this sign. They do like country nights on two on Wednesday nights or something.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Dante]

Legit. Like big country names go through. They bring in, like, Chase Rice is on there. Yeah, he's coming in a few weeks. And I was like, oh, man, I bet you the week days are, like, pretty good.

[Kevin]

I mean, and you think about, like, you know, Springsteen used to play at the Stone Pony. Like, I know it's like the next. The next star is probably, you know, doing cover shit right now. And like, you never know what. What's gonna. Who it's gonna be. But it's a. It's a awesome, awesome spot. I. I mean, again, I don't want too many people to know. It's like, keep it quiet.

[Una]

Yeah, keep it quiet.

[Kevin]

Let's do some other non b trust stuff before we go. I got a bunch of shit. I don't know if we'll get through all of it, but get the crew together and head off to the course in the new 2024 Chevy Traverse with impressive cargo room, three room seating, and the first ever Z71 trim Traverse. Can handle your buddies and their golf bags with ease. Chevrolet together. Let's drive. Have you seen. You guys. I'm sure you haven't seen it. The. The Netflix documentary that's out right now called Unknown Number.

[Dante]

Oh, this is what Bri texted us last night to watch it. I made it halfway through. I'll tell you what I got to. I got to the point where the detective finally started like, trying. Yes, trying, bro.

[Kevin]

It took two years for them to do the most basic thing. Let me set it up. In case you don't know.

[Dante]

Here's.

[Kevin]

Wait, I'm saying for them set it up.

[Dante]

And then I need to ask the billion dollar question.

[Kevin]

So this. And you might have. I had done like a one minute man video on this because like I saw it in the news. I even so I knew who did it and what happened. And I still was like, holy. So this girl, 13 year old girl in Michigan. This is 2022, I think maybe 20 leading up to 2022. So I guess 21 and 20 for 20 months, almost two years. Received thousands of text messages harassing her from a fake number being like, you're a little anorexic ass. No one's ever gonna love you. You. Your boyfriend wants me. His. His dick. My. His. His fingers. My. Kill yourself. All this for like hundreds of messages a day for almost two years. And they finally go to like. Because they. And they have these apps that allow you to use a fake number so you can text through your phone, but it'll pop up as someone else's number. You can call and. And text as an anonymous person. A detective finally said, let's go to that company. And they just looked at the IP addresses and then they can find out who the original phone was connected to. And it turns out to be the girl's own mother who was lying about. She didn't have a job. She told her husband she was working two jobs. Had been out of work for years. They had to move four different times because they were like in foreclosure because she just wasn't paying the mortgage because she was lying about money. And so she spent like eight hours a day, every day. Hate. Texting and harassing her own daughter for two years being like, kill your. Like it said kill yourself. Kill yourself, you anorexic. Like your hus. Your, your boyfriend wants to. I want to suck his dick. And like he's gonna let me. Tried to pin it on a different girl who like she got, ended up getting harassed and it was their own mother. And the mother is in the dock. Dude.

[Dante]

That's what I was just gonna say.

[Kevin]

So it starts out like, here's the mom of the boyfriend. Yeah, here's the mom of the girl. And she's like, so when it first began and it's like a confessional like any other doc. And then it's her. And so I, when it came out, I knew was the mom because I had seen the story and I was like, oh wait, that must be like a different girl's mind. Can't be her. The mom did it, you know, and she, she went to jail for 19 months and she was out. So she's out already and she's on the dock and her. You, I don't think you've gotten to it yet. Her like, defense, I mean, this is it. I actually think it's genuinely the craziest thing I've ever watched on television because there's, first of all, there's body cam footage of the cop when the reveal happens, which is insane. I was watching it going, is this gonna happen? I'm looking around the room, I'm going, are they really going to show this? Are we going to see the moment? And the, the daughter is sitting there. They do a horrible job explaining it, by the way. They don't just say like, hey, we figured out it's your mom. The guy's like, we did some tracking and we discovered that your mom's devices were the number like, you know, it was kind of like convoluted. And it's a 13 year old girl. She's probably scared. She was sort of like, she didn't react. They, they weren't like, hey, we found out who's harassing you. It's your mom. So it was a little convoluted. And then the dad comes in and he's, he, the dad's asking more about her jobs than anything. Like, he's not even, like, hugging his daughter. She gets up and she's, like, hugging her daughter, being like, I need to be with her right now. And it's like, you're the culp. It was one of the craziest things I've ever watched. And then her defense, she's like. She claims that she didn't start the messaging that someone else did, and then.

[Una]

She took it over.

[Kevin]

She took it over because she wanted to figure out who it was, so she needed to, like, keep it going to figure out who the original person was. And then eventually, she kind of just breaks down, and she's like, it was a way for me to escape my own life by, like, doing this. And then at the very end, she says, I think when she was a younger girl, she was assaulted. She was, like, raped or something, which is very terrible, and I'm sure fucks you up in a lot of ways. But she kept talking about, like, I needed to protect her. It's like, you need to protect your kids from things like this. It's. And they say to her, like, you told her to kill yourself. And she was like, I knew she wasn't gonna really do that, bro.

[Una]

Oh, my God.

[Kevin]

And then they were like, you said she was anorexic, and. And they were like. And you hear the producer be like, do you think you were projecting? Like, maybe you have those problems. She was like, I am anorexic. I don't eat. So maybe that was it. It was like. It's like, truly the craziest I've ever heard. And then the most heartbreaking part is the daughter is like, I just love my mom. Like, I don't want to live my life without my mom. And I know what she did, but I love her more than anything in this world. And I'm, like, looking forward to having a relationship with her when she gets out. And then she got out of jail and. But she was not allowed to see her yet. But they were texting. They showed text messages between the two being like, hi, honey bunny. Like, miss you so much. Can't wait to see you. And then I read some headline or some tweet or something that said, since the doc has come out, the daughter has, like, reconsidered. I think a bunch of people were like, stay the fuck away from her. But, like, you can tell this girl just, like, wants to have a mom.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

It's like, you just took away. You took yourself away from your kid. Like, dude, I mean, she's the kid is so, like. You can just see, like, she's totally, like, disassociating, like.

[Dante]

Yeah, she's kind of like, do you get it?

[Kevin]

Because I'm sure you, like, put up walls where you're, like, defending it or something.

[Dante]

So I. I fell asleep halfway through, was gonna finish it tonight, and I thought the exact same thing. I'm like, who's it gonna be? I'm. And I'm, like, looking at the people that are in the dock, and I'm like, okay, it can't be her. It would be really up if it was the mom, but it's not the mom because she's in the dog.

[Kevin]

Yeah, and it's her, dude. It's her.

[Dante]

So Brie sent the text, and Brie was like, it's the most up thing you've. You've seen in a while. And then my sister said the same thing, and she was.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's really buzzing right now.

[Dante]

Watch us talk.

[Kevin]

Dude, they. She got 19 months. Like, and I get. You can't. There has to just be, like, standards to stuff. It's like, you didn't physically harm her. You didn't kill anybody. But, like, that person used to be locked away for life.

[Dante]

What? I kept wondering, though, and I was like, like, what the. Why didn't they just change your number?

[Kevin]

That was.

[Dante]

But. But, like, it makes sense.

[Kevin]

But how come, like, the dad, somebody. They. They said at one point, like, we talked about that, but it was. Oh.

[Dante]

Oh.

[Kevin]

There was two things. Yeah, the mom was like, we needed to.

[Dante]

Yeah, we wanted.

[Kevin]

We knew it was someone close to her, so we needed to figure out who it was. It's like, just change your number, dude. Everybody. Well, she shouldn't have to do that. What about her friends? Like, I don't know. Just text your friends. Here's my new number. That's it, man. I've thought about doing that kind of when I have people that, like, I want to cut out of my life, let alone if someone was like, dude, harassing. I mean, it's truly one of the saddest things ever. And I don't want to, like, analyze too much because just whatever this. Whatever footage you've seen, but, like, the dad was not like, oh, my God, like, poor daughter. Yeah, he was right away just arguing with the mom. So you've been lying to me about your job. You've been lying to me about the bills. It's like, those are important, but a distant second to your daughter's, like, psyche. He didn't, like, hug her. He Was like, you need to leave right now because if, like, I will do something bad. Like, he was basically like, I will kill you if I'm left alone. The cops just left. The cops are like, okay, God, we'll be back. But, like, just unveiled, the mom was harassing the daughter, and now they're all in a room together. There's. There's a chance she kills them to try to get off the hook. There's a chance he kills the mom because he's so mad. There's a chance the daughter snaps and kills everybody. Like, the cops just dropped a bomb and we're like, see ya. It's. I mean, I. I exaggerate a lot. And there's been a lot of crazy true crime stuff, but the fact that they have the body cam footage, they have the mom in the dock, and then you hear her try to defend it, it's. It's one of the most. It's fascinating and I. I loved it as, like, a viewer, but there was probably like five, six moments throughout it that I was like, this should not be on television. This should not. This little girl even, like, you can tell that there's a scene where they're putting up. They put up a graphic with the texts, and she's sitting on her bed like this, texting. And you can tell the producers are like, okay, we need to stage you texting. So we'll put up the. You know what I mean?

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And it's almost like you're acting in your own snuff film.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And then, you know, it's out there, the boyfriend's in it. I'm sure they're kind of like, hey, have you seen my documentary? It's like, this shouldn't. You guys should be in therapy. You shouldn't be, like, on blast. Like, this. My God is a good entertainment.

[Una]

Yeah. That's like, I feel like a good example of, like, if you're in a bad relationship and, like, you're in that, like, you're justifying certain things being like, no, I'm being dramatic. It's not actually that, like, you can justify anything in the moment, but I.

[Kevin]

Also understand, like, like, if. If you're just like, do you want to not have a mother or try to, like, work through this with her? I could see a lot of kids being like, I want to have a mom.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

If as an adult, I'd be like, you know, get the out of here. But that's where I thought that there needed to be, like, moms and aunts and uncles or Something that'd be like, we will take care of you, don't worry. Like, it's the sickest thing I've ever heard. I mean, I, I, I, you know, it's not like it's not one of those things like you can't understand until you have a kid because this is so blatant. But like, I literally could not wrap my head around doing that to my kid for. I want, I, I was saying to Eddie, because Eddie loves this stuff too. Like, I love this new wave of these documentaries being like 90 minutes instead of a 10 part series. I need like a hundred part series on this. Because were they like at night time, they would just like sit down and do like movie night.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And you're just like, you, you. Hey, let's watch the new episode of Love island. Or what? Like, dude, what, like, what was going on? On just like a, here's lunch. You like, what the.

[Una]

Wait, how old was the girl? Sorry.

[Kevin]

Thirteen. Okay. At like your weakest, most formative years, she was like, I, she goes, I did know that she was like skinny and I guess I was like kind of preying upon her insecurities, you think? And then, and she's just like out and free. Like, I'm hoping this does like, more damage to her than like, like the, the jail sentence where it's like, yeah, I hope that that girl, like everywhere she goes is like, you're not welcome here. You're ashamed. Everywhere you go, it's the final, the final scene is the daughter being like talking about how she loves her mom. And they just pop the text messages up. It's brilliantly edited, but. And then the final word is her going like, I just love her more than anything. And I was like, oh my God, the boyfriend's in it. He's like, like, yeah, we, we don't talk anymore. Like, yeah, I'm sure they ran for the hills. And, and it's like at the end of the day, you know, this woman was raped. She has all sorts of, clearly all sorts of issues, but it was just like she wanted to. Her daughter's boyfriend, they said after they broke up, she would still go to all of his sporting events. She was, she was like, when, when he said, when they were, when they were together and he would eat at the house, she would like cut up his steak for him and all these things that he was just like, that's weird. But you're just not assuming like, oh, she's a psychotic stalker.

[Dante]

I saw. I just, I got to the part where he finally was like, yeah, we can't date anymore. This is like two nuts. And. And she was getting texts like, we won. Yep.

[Kevin]

Like, you broke up with him? Like, I want. Yep, yep.

[Tommy]

Dude.

[Kevin]

What? Imagine saying. And you know what? Actually the cringiest part of the whole thing is she's trying to talk like this generation. She's like, lol, bruh. You. You know what I mean? Like, she's using terms and that just like, yeah, you. You concocted this whole, like, character in your head where you're like a 15 year old girl. You lose her like that to me, that I, you know, that person should legitimately, I think, be in jail for life. I know you didn't kill anybody, but.

[Dante]

Why are there apps like this out?

[Kevin]

Okay, so that's my main thing. Like, and I, And I. When I did the One Minute man on it, like a couple years ago, I. If there was one thing, I. I want to, like, go to my congressman. You know, when you see, like, like Kim Kardashian's becoming like a legal whatever because she's like, fighting for a cause in the Innocence Project, My crusade is to get those banned.

[Una]

Wait, which apps?

[Kevin]

These apps that allow you to text from a fake.

[Una]

Yeah, yeah, it's like the only.

[Kevin]

What? Maybe I'm not thinking it through. Is there any value to that? No, it just allows you to anonymously contact someone. In. In what world? The only thing I could think is if, like, you. If you had an abusive husband and they wouldn't let you, like, talk to the kids if they saw their number. So I'm just trying to concoct, like, a crazy scenario where you would use that for good. Because 100 of the time it is stalking, harassing exes who chase each other down. Like, there's no good that can come from that. Those. Those companies should be shut down and, like, sent to prison for even making that a possibility. I've. I've dealt with it. I know other people have dealt with it. Like, I know too many people who have dealt with that level of harassment too. All day, every day. I can't imagine it for two years. Like, that girl went through. But even if that happens to you for a week, a month, it ruins your life. It's like you're being watched and stalked, and it's all because these apps exist that just allow. For free?

[Una]

Yeah, for free.

[Kevin]

Like, no problem. I could do it in five minutes, download the app, put your number in, text it with this fake number. Done. It's so easy. Like, they. In. In the Doc, they were like, she did work in. It doesn't matter. You know, if you. If you can come up with, like, you're some. I have a backdoor VPN that can find whatever this is. Like, the dumbest person in the world could download that and do it in five seconds.

[Una]

And I feel like it. I feel like the cops always have a hard time tracking down that number. Why is it so hard if it's a free app that anybody can get.

[Kevin]

There was one guy, there was one cop who was like, we're trying. Like, have you thought about changing the number? And that was it. And at the end, the boyfriend's mom is like, the Michigan Police Department. These guys. That guy. And like, thanks to Mr. Smith, the only guy who did something about it, because he. He just, like, went. It was called Pinger is the name of the app you. Pinger. They went to Pinger and they were like, you know, subpoena, whatever, warrant. What's the IP address? Boom, done. That was it. Two years late. Like, you just let that girl get her life ruined for two straight years before you did that. Wow. Crazy. It's. It's. And I mean, it's up there with like, in the jinx when. When he confesses to the murder in the bathroom, when everyone remembers that moment. Like, watching that. Watching the reveal was one of the weirdest. Again, I was like, I feel gross even, like, watching this. But it's also pretty.

[Una]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Amazing as far as theater goes. So there's that.

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[Kevin]

Also in the entertainment world, the Venice Film Festival is going on right now. Jacob Elordi's new movie, some Frankenstein movie, got a 14 minute standing ovation. And then the next day, the Rock's new movie got a 15 minute standing ovation. This is my biggest pet peeve right now. Hollywood does a lot of phony, performative. A 15 minute standing ovation is the silliest thing I've ever heard.

[Una]

Is it seriously? Like, minutes one through 15, people are sitting up, clapping.

[Dante]

That's a long time, bro.

[Kevin]

I. I said in my Video. I said, stand up and, and clap for 60 seconds. And by the time you get to 45 seconds, you'd be like, what are we doing here? Do that for 15 minutes.

[Una]

I feel like after a while, when.

[Kevin]

You think about how if, if, okay, Jackie has graduated, you would clap for, like, that's it, like, six seconds.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Fifteen minutes.

[Dante]

I'd be dying, laughing. I would be so.

[Kevin]

But the craziest thing, like, I can't believe the Rock is crying. Everyone's like, what.

[Dante]

What is his movie about? I know that the one you're talking about, the other one's Dr. Frankenstein, right?

[Kevin]

Yeah. This one is called the Smashing Machine. It's like a true story about an mma, like an early MMA guy who, like, I think he, like, risks it all and whatever.

[Dante]

Okay.

[Kevin]

It is supposed to be good. And a lot of people are saying it's the rocks, like, my first, like, real acting job. So I don't doubt that these movies are gonna be good, but I mean, come on, like. And you know, there's a couple real ones in the audience who are like, are we, are we done here? But you, like, have to do it because you can't be the. Who's not. There was one guy in the audience who went, if you smell what the Rock is cooking, which is funny because everyone else is like a stuffy Hollywood. But there is nothing in this world worth a 15 minute. That's nothing.

[Una]

There's no way, like, after a minute, like five, I just.

[Kevin]

After, like, 40 full seconds of just clapping. Yeah, it's, it's like, it's the same thing as, like, when people, like, it's so easy, just exercise for, like five minutes a day. It's like, well, if you just do push ups for five straight minutes, you're gonna be tired clapping for that long. And they're just like, oh, yeah. I would be like, sit down. Sit the down. It's just a movie about an MMA fighter.

[Dante]

Exactly.

[Kevin]

I said, unless there was a story, like the, the someone on the crew, like, died in the middle of filming it, or there's some, like, emotional backstory. It's a, it's a story about, like, a school shooting or something. This is just a movie. Crazy. It's a Frankenstein movie. We're doing 14 minutes of crying. It's. I, I, I, if I was there, I, I think I would be yelling at, stop enough. Like, we can't do this. It is a, it is a joke, man. There's also the, the Polish CEO who stole the hat from the kid at the US open.

[Dante]

Heard about this.

[Kevin]

This guy giving out swag. And this. This guy grabs it from the kid. Like, blatantly grabs the hat. Turns the kid's like, what the, man? I'm a kid. And even it's not. The guy can't even claim, like, I didn't see you. Because at one point, I think he took the kid, takes the kid's Sharpie as well, gets an autograph, and then gives the kid the Sharpie back.

[Tommy]

No.

[Kevin]

So it's not like, oh, I didn't even see him there. He's, like, ignoring him, and he's like, here's your marker back. The Internet does what the Internet does. They dig this guy up. He's a Polish CEO. He owns a paving company in Poland worth millions, and they are now, like, eradicating him and his company. I. And this kind of goes hand in hand with another story from the weekend. I'm interested to hear where you. Where you stand on this. Some dude went up to the Mavericks GM Nico Harrison. He's sitting. He's at dinner at, like, a bar.

[Dante]

Oh, no.

[Kevin]

Open air. Like, he's sitting by the windows of a bar, but they're open, so you can just reach him from the sidewalk, you know? And this guy walks up, and he's like, hey, hey, Nico. Mavs fan, like, shakes his hand. He's like, just want to let you know everybody still hates you. And he walks away. And I posted it being like, this is lame. Like, yes. Worst trade in NBA history up the franchise. You can't go up to a guy when he's with his family out on the street and do that. The bro. The response I got on that video was like, you're out of your mind. That guy's awesome.

[Dante]

Are you kidding me?

[Kevin]

Like, you. Almost unanimously, people being like, are you crazy? You're so out of touch. That was awesome. President of the Mavs fan club, Pres. Mayor of Dallas. We love him, Nico. So those two things happened, and I was like, all right, this guy did a really shitty job, but he's still just, like, a person, right?

[Dante]

Right.

[Kevin]

This Polish guy, at least you're a blatant. If you do that to a kid. I'm not saying you're. You're. You're not the mom texting his daughter, but you're like, you at least did something shitty on camera to a child, that you deserve to be, like, shamed. What I can't get down with is the Internet's crusades. Like, the Internet going after Nico Harrison, like, this, being like, that Was awesome. Or in this case, even the astronomer, CEO stuff like, okay, yeah, these are like this bad behavior caught on camera. But when you start to. With someone's job and a company and the people who work there, it's like, oh, yeah, my paving company now has a billion bad reviews on Yelp, and we just, like, lost all our business. So this. The Joe Schmo who, like, just works the desk there, right. Is like, out of a job or, like, you know, I have my stock options that we're about to. To cash in, and now, like, we just lost 50 of our value or whatever it is, where it's like. And the Internet doesn't really care. You're just doing it to do it, you know, it's like the kid, by the way, the kid met with the. The. The tennis star. He got to meet him, got all sorts of gear. Like, he ended up totally fine. But now we're just going to ruin. And that guy, like, that guy, he is a piece of. If you do that to a kid, like, you're probably a bad person in general, but, I don't know, you start going after, like, that guy's been building that company for 20 years or some. The. The. The Crusades, the Internet go on, I think are just a little too much.

[Dante]

People definitely don't take into account any of that.

[Kevin]

They just want the guy to be, you know, the one guy.

[Dante]

The thing that I'm, like, confused by is do people think, like, Nico Harrison was just out there doing whatever he.

[Kevin]

Wants, operating on his own? Like, it's not like the ownership.

[Dante]

Yeah, he takes. He takes orders, man.

[Kevin]

Right. You think you did that without talking to the owners of the team? Yeah. You think that wasn't just a mandate from above? And I do think there was some corrupt going on, but I don't think it was his call.

[Dante]

You're the scapegoat.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Dante]

And that you're getting paid what you get paid so that you can do the things no one else wants to.

[Kevin]

Do to be the Lightning round to get beat up. They said the same thing about Goodell. Like, why does he make, like, $50 million? Because he takes all the heat all the time. Yeah, that. That's. That's what's cra. And also, let's say even. Let's say that's not true. Let's say he, like, acted alone. If you're at.

[Dante]

He's out of a job, then he's not.

[Kevin]

But. No, but I'm saying, like, let's say he. He's just the villain Somehow, right? If I'm at a game and I see him. You're at, like, a fan festival. Yeah, basketball, mavericks related. We're taking questions from fans. Yeah, the fans are pissed.

[Dante]

You, right?

[Kevin]

You're on the radio and someone calls in. I'm just at dinner with my family.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Like, even. And even if it was Nico, like, alone, but it's like, he's got, like, wife and kids there, and they're like, hey, dad, why'd that guy say that he hates you?

[Dante]

Like, I don't know, man.

[Kevin]

And I said, like, listen, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm old and washed up and that. And like, that generation thinks that's cool or funny. Like, and people are like, oh, you're telling me you wouldn't go up to, like, the owner, the Will Ponds, the owner of the Mets and say that? Like, no, I just wouldn't. I just wouldn't do that. Not when I was 25, not when I'm 45. I've said. I'll say it on Twitter. I'll say it on my podcast. I've said horrible things. I want you to get hurt. I want you to die. I wish you and your family terrible. All this performative, ridiculous stuff. If they walked in the room, I'd be like, nice to meet you.

[Dante]

Right?

[Kevin]

And maybe that's. Maybe I'm a. Or a flip flop. That's not cool either. But I just wouldn't go up to someone in front of their family in public and be like, you.

[Dante]

People got so comfortable with just saying whatever they want and expecting people not to, like, feel anything.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Yeah. And I know it kind of goes the other direction where people like, oh, these CEOs do whatever they want and don't take our feelings into account. I'm like, I get that. You know, the guy who got shot, People were loving that. Like, these things where it's like, all right, yeah, there's some bad people. They just do some bad things. But it's like, I don't know. Especially when we're talking, okay, this. This kid didn't get a hat. He didn't hit him. He didn't hurt him. Like, I don't know, there's some things where, you know, yeah, that guy sucks shitty behavior. Let's make fun of him relentlessly. Fine. But, like, let's hunt down his company and give it bad reviews and, like, call advertisers or whatever the it is. Like, I don't know, you start with people's money and careers, and there's a whole Company that's affected because I don't know, this kid didn't get a hat.

[Dante]

The review game sucks, dude.

[Kevin]

Because it does matter.

[Dante]

Sucks.

[Kevin]

It's like, you know, if you're, if you're like a sponsor or a partner or whatever it may be, and it's like, should we go with this company or this company? Oh, this one's just getting flooded with negative. Let's go with that. It's nothing personal, but, like, why would we, you know?

[Dante]

Yep.

[Kevin]

That, that to me is slippery slope. But I mean, yeah, you're a idiot for. You're an. For stealing that hat.

[Dante]

But no, that was good. I didn't know the context on that. I had no clue about the Nico Harrison thing. That kind of.

[Kevin]

It almost makes me like, depressing. It makes me like Route 4 to them in the Mavericks. Like, what if, what if it ends up being awesome and the Mavericks are good? It's like, now you did all that for nothing.

[Dante]

Oh, it'll be completely same thing with.

[Kevin]

The Red Sox right now. Endeavors. People were killing Breslo. It's like, okay, actually, it worked out. Now what now you, you, you tortured this guy for six months for nothing, you know?

[Dante]

I know, right?

[Kevin]

And they, yeah, they got Cooper flag. It's like the Mavs might be totally fine now. Who knows? And the last thing, I mean, I guess Trump is speaking today at 2:00'. Clock. So he is alive. I don't know what this announcement will be maybe. Who knows? But I just, I was thinking about it, like, him not having anything on his schedule made people be like, he's dead. And I just, it just never more that I feel like being President of the United States sucks so much. If you like. My favorite thing in the world is to not have anything on my schedule. What are you doing this weekend? Nothing. And imagine if that was the. If that, if that happened, people would be like, oh, he must be dead.

[Una]

So that they.

[Kevin]

I don't even. I think he. There was like a usual, like, press conference or something he didn't do. And then it was just like, yeah, he doesn't have anything on, on the schedule. I don't think it was anything that he had to be at. Yeah. Or canceled. It was just like, clear the schedule. Which is like, I don't know. First, I, I. First of all, I don't think we saw Biden for like, years at a time. And also, maybe there is like, something medical, but he's not dead. I don't know. There's a million reasons where you could be like, I need a couple days off, and you can't do that without the free world being like, well, he's probably dead. That sucks, dude.

[Dante]

It's gonna really. It's gonna really pain me to point this out and say this, but you know who was pretty on top of the conspiracy side of this thing? Who? Nate Dog.

[Kevin]

Yeah. What did the dog say?

[Dante]

The dog who thinks I'm crazy conspiracy theory guy.

[Kevin]

Oh, he. He was like tinfoil hat. He was saying he's dead and stuff.

[Dante]

All week, and now he's just not sending me updates. Say, last night, half jokingly, like, I think. I think they're gonna put a memoriam to Trump up on the screen at MetLife.

[Kevin]

Do you think he was trolling you or you really meant it?

[Dante]

He was. He was half joking, half serious, but he was like. He's like. Last night, he was like. He's. He definitely had a stroke or something. That's why they're hiding them.

[Kevin]

Listen, it is possible. Don't get me wrong. Like, it could be the case. But my main thing was if there was ever a president who would be, like, offended by that, it would be him. And it's so easy to just be like, proof of life, I'm here. You know what I mean? By the way, my phone case is purple.

[Dante]

Well, they did the.

[Kevin]

I got it delivered. I thought it was blue and came out very purple. Kind of great.

[Una]

That's pretty purple.

[Kevin]

But, like, I'd just be like, yeah, no, I'm alive. Like, oh, you thought. I'm old and, like, decrepit and. And dead. Like, ha. I'm still here. It's so easy to do that. And he just didn't do it.

[Dante]

I guess one of the things that fueled it that Nate told me was that that Gruden golf picture that they said was, like, two days ago or whatever was actually from last week.

[Kevin]

Oh. So they were trying to be like.

[Dante]

So he was alive.

[Kevin]

He's fine. But it was.

[Dante]

He was. He was like.

[Kevin]

That is weird. I mean, there are. Don't get me wrong, there's some weird, suspicious. Just stuff. It's more just that, like, if you miss a couple days.

[Dante]

I think the picture was the. Like, I didn't even recognize him in the picture.

[Kevin]

Oh, I didn't even see it. What was it, the golf one?

[Dante]

No, he came out. I think he came out of the country club and they got a picture of him with, like, his hat down, but looks nothing like him.

[Kevin]

Maybe it's not him. It was body double.

[Una]

People suggest facelift by any Chance.

[Dante]

I think he's just old. I think he's just.

[Kevin]

Could be maybe he got a little, little plastic surgery, needed a recovery period.

[Dante]

And he's just old.

[Kevin]

I mean. Yeah, that's why I said like there could be something wrong because he's a 70 something year old man under an insane amount of stress after a lifetime of public living and partying. I guess he doesn't party, but you know what I mean? Just like that can run its course and take its, take its toll. Maybe he is. But man, not the life.

[Una]

Such close tabs. Like even like I'm always so shocked when one person unfollows somebody on Instagram.

[Kevin]

And they know because people on the Internet are just consum. Stalking and hiding and you know, like there's people out there, that's all they do. Yeah. Even if it's their own goddamn daughter. And then the last thing, there are people who are like harassing or not. I guess maybe not harassing but like talking about Bruce Willis's family that I want to like kill with my bare hands. Bruce Willis has reached a point with his dementia that he's moved into. They have a second house that is fully with a, a team and a crew and like the care he needs and they're painting it like they're just dumping him at like a old folks home and they're like, oh, you know, his family's not even taking care of him. They're just shipping him out and it's like they have they a whole second house with all the care he needs because they have the money and the means to do all that. And the, the wife was like, Bruce would not want me and his daughters to live in a house geared towards his needs. They want to live in a house geared towards their needs. All the stuff that they need, live a normal life. So it just, it's gotten too much. They said he can't speak anymore. He doesn't even know that he was. He doesn't know that he was like a Hollywood immortal. He's, you know, it's just we're at the final stages here. So they moved him into that. And there are people just like these. Yeah. First of all, I don't know what it is about Bruce Willis specifically, but it seems like it really hits like a lot of people's hearts that he's just like the man and he was like John McClane, this tough guy. And now I think dementia makes is so hard because it's like it makes you weak and like you just look and sound and Feel different. But whatever it is, like, I'm like, don't come for the Willis family. That and everyone just be like, oh, yeah, you guys are like, you know, you don't care about him, you don't love him, you're just dumping him. It's like, like they're, they've been by his side like, for 10 years doing this. Like, they're, you know, And I think that's one of those things. Until you've, like, dealt with a family member who has that, you really can't understand what it's like. I can't even imagine how hard that is to be like, hey, dad, don't know who he is. Hey, you're Die Hard. What are you talking about? He can't speak. They said he's fit otherwise, like, physically in great shape. Which is almost the worst because then you're in your brain. Like, I can't talk, I can't communicate, I can't do anything. But yeah, no, they just have the means and the ability to have, like a house for him. It's not just like we're sending him to a regular people's, you know, whatever. So leave the Willis family alone.

[Dante]

People suck, man.

[Kevin]

It's getting harder for me to be on the Internet. Like, I know this is where we, like, make our living, but just, I just can't mean.

[Dante]

Yeah, I can't wait to like, jump on everybody and attack. It's just like.

[Kevin]

Which is. I mean, listen, I, I did a lot of that when I was younger. Like sports related, just commentary related, making fun of people, jumping on them. So I'm, I'm guilty of it myself. I just. Maybe you just get older, wiser, more mature. Maybe you just get exposed to the Internet too long. But I'm just like, I, I can't do this and I can't even, like, I don't want to be a part of it. It's. But I guess there's always kind of a new generation doing it for the first time. Feels like they're making a difference or being heard or seen. But it is getting to a point where it's like the witch hunts and the anonymous attacking. And I guess that's kind of the theme of all this. The mom, Nico Harrison, the Bruce Willis people, the. Even the Trump people, like, speculating, like, I don't know, give it a couple days, maybe pop something. There's nothing there. And instead we don't need to be in a hysteria for a week. I don't know, it's all just getting kind of out of control.

[Dante]

Were we, like. I mean, I know we were, like, punks growing up. Like, used to do, like, just dumb. That I look back on, and I'm embarrassed by now. But were we ever, like.

[Kevin]

Like, shitty people? Like, bad people? Like, I mean, I'm sure. Listen, I'm sure there are people who think some of the stuff we said and did in the early days of barstool were over the line and shitty, and they're probably right. I feel like, you know, there's the intent thing always matters. Like, I was trying to be funny and edgy and somebody got caught in the crosshairs. That sucks. And then as you get older, it's like, I don't know, find a way to be funny and entertaining without doing that to people, you know? Yeah, but. But I do think there's a difference between, like, I was being. I'm trying to be funny versus, like. Yeah, no, I'm. I'm after you.

[Dante]

You know? Like, I'm trying to picture in what world I would ever walk up to somebody in that scenario that you said and say that just in regular life, never mind, like, on camera, and then broadcast out, like, Right. I. I was always. I still am. I'm terrified of my parents. Terrified. And, like, something would just go through my mind before that thought, even, like, finished processing, like, what are my parents gonna say? What are they gonna do, murder me?

[Kevin]

Right. Right.

[Dante]

And be so disappointed in me I would never be able to live with.

[Kevin]

But. But okay, look at, like, this family in that doc. It's like that girl, her mom is. Is being an Internet weirdo. Like, when you. When it. Be. When it. When you're young enough that, like, the Internet is all you've ever known, you know, like, if I ever said to my mom, like, oh, I was just saying that, like, to get followers on the Internet. What the are you talking about? But if your mom is, like, out here trying to get her own followers and trying to be her own thing, it's like the Internet has just taken over everybody's life, not just the young people.

[Dante]

Crazy how full circle this just came, because Nate said the same thing to me last night on the ride back. Is he was asking me about the El Atami thing, like you were earlier. And I said, same thing. I go. They were cruising until the whole Nicky Smokes thing happened at the. The beach. And then Ella got so rattled by tweet what people are saying, and I.

[Kevin]

Was like, no, I mean, this girl.

[Dante]

I thought, like, was just a nut job who gave no about anything.

[Kevin]

And everybody cares on some level, you.

[Dante]

Know, but that, that's what. I go.

[Kevin]

That's what sucks.

[Dante]

I go. And she starts talking about, like, these rankings and like.

[Kevin]

And I'm like, that filter was they. I was like, I really didn't. I thought that was a bad idea.

[Dante]

Said he goes, dude, that generation has never known any differently. He goes, they're used to instant reactions, instant, like, responses.

[Kevin]

And. And I talked to them before. This generation said, like, being cringe is like the worst thing that can happen to you. So when it's like, hey, sing, sing karaoke song or dance or do, like, be fun and silly, it's like. But then there's going to be a camera, it's going to get posted, and someone's going to be like, that person's cringe, that person. Person's lame. And so you don't, like, do anything.

[Dante]

That's what got. So when I had that little rant about guys not having balls anymore get posted, a bunch of guys DM me. And they were like, dude, it's not, it's not like that. It's that girls love to shoot down guys and broadcast into the world. And they were like, it's not worth trying anymore. But then I see all these girls talk about, like, all these, like, influencers that are gorgeous are like, I go out and guys don't hit on me, guys won't approach me, guys won't talk to me. And it's like, okay, whose fault is it though?

[Kevin]

Right? Right? Is it? Yeah, I. I think that's an interesting dynamic where it's like, you can't have it both ways. You can't. Like, if you want people to come up to you, then you have to be inviting and not posted and not be an. If you do, then people aren't gonna.

[Dante]

Are we getting to the point now where people's identity online is so much more important in their eyes than, like, real life?

[Kevin]

What do you think? We used to have a question on ATI that was like, would you rather be. It was something to the effect of like, would you rather your online. Oh, I guess it was more looks. It was like, would you rather be one of those people who say, oh, you look better in your pictures or you look better in person? And I think we were always like, I'd rather just be good looking in person, you know, but younger people would answer it, like, online, because that's where everyone sees you.

[Una]

So, you know, what I actually have to say is I think that the. Everyone talking about, like, oh, it's so hard to meet guys. Like, guys don't come up to me is like feeding. Oh into it like a weird way. Like, I almost think, like, the time when I've had the most guys ever come up to me is just like when I started, like, tell myself, like, no, I always get approached. I always. And it's, it's literally an aura thing.

[Kevin]

It's the vibe.

[Una]

It's the aura. Like, I will. I literally have the prettiest friends. And like, I was going through periods where like, people, like, it's just like an aura thing. Like if you just keep an open mind and just like, tell yourself, like, no, people love.

[Kevin]

I think you can. You probably first of all, like, talk and act differently when you're. Yeah, but I, I think there's un, un, like subconscious where. I don't know, the way you're sitting or carrying yourself. I don't know. It's just like a vibe where it's like, I, I. It was a couple girl friends of mine that were like, desperately looking for a husband when we were like, in our late 20s. And it was like, yeah, we can tell. You know, it was like, it was all they cared about, all they did. They were picky, they were rude. They were just like, too, it was too much, you know, and it was the girl who was just like, yeah, I'll have another shot, or like, whatever dress, however that was like getting all the attention.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And like it's, it's Anything in life though. It's like when you're trying too hard to land your favorite job, when you're trying too hard to whatever. It's like once you relax a little and then especially something like that where you just like, start acting like it again. Yeah, guys would love me. I'm. I'm the best. Whatever.

[Una]

Well, I feel like it's like, it's very obvious understanding that like, everyone just doesn't want to get rejected in life. Like every. We're just all trying to go around and like, not get rejected. So then when you think about like a guy just like, it's not that he doesn't. It's not that you're not pretty enough to approach. It's just like, like they just don't want to get rejected. So it's like once you start kind of understanding, like, it's not personal, it's not about you, then, like, it's a lot easier. It's so much easier. You just like, you have like a more approachable. Yeah.

[Kevin]

I mean, it's so hard to go up to a stranger and be like, oh yeah, hi. I like the way you look and I would like to get you to know you more and maybe like there's something there. And then someone's like, you're ugly.

[Una]

Get out of here. Yeah.

[Kevin]

The fact that we ever did it like a second time, let alone a millionth time, you know. So yeah, when you, when you think of it like that and I feel.

[Una]

Like the narrative now is like, oh, guys never. Like, guys don't approach like girls, you know, like it's so hard out here. But then I feel like that just feeds more into like the self fulfilling.

[Dante]

Prophecy where it's like.

[Kevin]

And that's, it's, it's. I think that's part of the problem with the apps is like you don't have to deal with rejection or in person. So you just blank it, throw it out there and then I'll you and throw you back in because I'm gonna get right back on the app again. It used to be like you have to cultivate a little. You put some time and effort into it. You have some emotion. You like each other. Then you, you know, now it's just like you're just number 100,000 on an app.

[Dante]

Yeah, it took, you took months.

[Kevin]

Months. But it was like fun. You're like getting like good reactions on the text. You're like crafting funny text. Then you do a little sexting. It's like a whole courtship process. That's, you know, hey, you want to fuck? Like that's it. Like your opening line is like, you know, go zero to a thousand. It's crazy. One last thing. What do you think of Anne Hathaway?

[Dante]

So hot.

[Kevin]

So hot. Did you always think that? Yeah, I, Dude, I actually. You were og.

[Dante]

I saw her at oh God, this is gonna date me.

[Kevin]

But I think butter the, the, the place here. Yeah.

[Dante]

Used to be a club a long time ago. Yeah, I saw her in person when she like first became a movie star. I don't even know what movie. And I was like, oh my God. Beautiful.

[Kevin]

I mean there's no doubt that she's always been a very beautiful girl. But there was there I feel like when you're younger. So I posted a video being like when you're in, in your 30s to 40, like you have this realization like, wait a minute. Anne Hathaway's so sexy. And now, I mean she's also has like aged like a fine wine. So. Yeah, she's getting plastic.

[Dante]

Plastic surgery.

[Kevin]

Well, I don't know. Debute. A new Face. But like. Yeah, yeah, but like, she's looking.

[Dante]

She's just like, naturally beautiful, but she.

[Kevin]

Got hotter as time went on. And then I think as guys get older, they have some, like, epiphany. That that look is very beautiful. So she's twice as hot in real life. And then she's like two times more because guys just realize it's just like four times hotter in our eyes. I don't know what it is, but in early on, Anne Hathaway was kind of like, is she hot or not? And then when you get older, you're like, like, yeah, I don't know. She's amazing, dude. She's also one of those people. Even if, even if you don't think it or whatever, if she were to walk in the room, you'd be like, oh, my God, that woman is beautiful. You know? Yeah, but there, there, there is something about older. Later in life, men that are like, maybe that's also part of it, is as you get older, you, I don't know, realize things, view things differently. So maybe that's also part of the.

[Una]

Problem with your age.

[Kevin]

Like, maybe, maybe all these guys, this whole dynamic about apps and dating and approaching people in person, maybe they'll be very different when they're 40 versus 25.

[Una]

I always think for some reason, like, I, I. There's like three categories. There's hot, pretty, and beautiful. And she falls under, like, beautiful. Like, she's just like, beautiful. But I feel like as you get older, it's. You go from like, hot to pretty to beautiful.

[Kevin]

I also think as you get as.

[Una]

A guy, start liking hot to pretty.

[Kevin]

I think what I realized as a guy is that, like, beautiful and pretty also is sexy and hot, you know?

[Una]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Like, in the early on, you're like, you want just like an insta thought who's, like, flashing her on the Internet, you know, that's hot. And that is still hot. Don't get me wrong. But then there's also a world where it's like Anne Hathaway with, like, flawless skin in a beautiful gown.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

It's like, I want to that, you know, I mean, that becomes not only like, wow, you're pretty, it's like, that's what actually you get, like, attracted to when you get older. That probably actually checks out. I could see that. I could see when you're young, just being like, I just want to like a hot girl versus when you're older, you're like, that's a girl I would want to, like, be married to or Partner with or whatever, you know?

[Una]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

More, like, definitely more value. You see.

[Dante]

More Jackie, who's an older chick that you think how Kevin and I think about Anne Hathaway.

[Kevin]

A girl or a guy.

[Dante]

Or a guy.

[Kevin]

Is there anybody who, like, aged like a fine wine, where you're like, oh, wait a minute. That person actually is.

[Una]

I think that's a good question. Okay. And Hathway, obviously, I would say that too. I would say Jennifer Lawrence. You can definitely tell that she has a good one. Work done. I think that she's still, like, gorgeous, I think.

[Kevin]

Oh, I have one.

[Una]

Who?

[Kevin]

Taylor Swift? Yeah, I think Taylor Swift. Like her in that red dress at the Grammys last year, I was like, oh, my God. God damn. And I never thought of her as like, she's a pretty girl. But I was never. I was never really like, I would like to have sex. That. That. That Grammy dress where she was, like, curvy and sexy. I was like, where the fuck did that come from? Yeah, she's one that I've totally, like, changed my mind on.

[Una]

Wait, who else? I was just thinking about this, like, obviously, like, is Jennifer Lawrence old?

[Dante]

Am I old for asking that question?

[Kevin]

She's. I mean, everybody's getting old at this point because it's like, I feel, like.

[Dante]

Weird that we're talking about Anne Hathaway being.

[Kevin]

She's Ann Hathaway's 42. J. Law is 35. So she's still pretty young.

[Dante]

Jessica.

[Kevin]

Jessica Alba, by the way.

[Dante]

She's not.

[Kevin]

Might be. She might be the number one girl of all time.

[Dante]

All time.

[Kevin]

When you factor in that she owns a billion dollar company.

[Dante]

Yeah. Don't even care. She could be a billion dollars in debt.

[Kevin]

That's true, too. But when you think about, like, you know, not to generalize here, but when you think about anybody who looks like that can just go ahead and find a billionaire guy and just ride that wave. And she just made her own company.

[Dante]

True.

[Kevin]

Like the Rihanna's of the world. The Jessica Alba's the world. It's like. No, I actually, you know, did it all myself or. I mean, I don't know if she did herself, but the fact that there's, like, a business behind it.

[Dante]

Sure.

[Kevin]

She was not the best actress, but I remember being like, I don't care. Did you ever watch early on, it was called Dark Angel, I think it was called. Yeah, dude, that's what it's called.

[Dante]

Wb.

[Kevin]

I think it was so bad.

[Dante]

And I was running around in a Catwoman outfit the whole time.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Dante]

Unbelievable.

[Una]

I Don't think I've ever actually seen Gal Gadot's acting for some reason. Like, I've always heard of it. I've never actually.

[Tommy]

Good.

[Kevin]

You're lucky.

[Una]

I just watched, like, clips.

[Dante]

Like, you know, she'll be.

[Kevin]

She'll be in every movie.

[Dante]

It was like in the dark Ages.

[Kevin]

We had to watch a WB show every week to see a pretty girl.

[Dante]

Yes.

[Kevin]

Now it's like that show would never last because it's like, yeah, I'm just gonna look at you on Instagram, you know, to watch a TV show.

[Dante]

Exactly.

[Kevin]

I was watch. I knew, like, the plot of Dark angel, the worst television show ever, just to catch this girl in some, like, black latex pants. Not even, like, it was just pants. It wasn't even like she was naked or anything. Just regular clothes.

[Dante]

Now who's on another one that was almost as bad is.

[Kevin]

Ben Affleck's old wife, Jennifer Garner. Yes. That had, like, a run, though. That was like a. Like a D.C. show for, like, years.

[Dante]

That was another one where she's still beautiful.

[Kevin]

She's a good one. That's on the list of Anne Hathaway.

[Dante]

Like, she's beautiful. Beautiful.

[Una]

Obviously, jlo.

[Kevin]

She'S always been hot, though.

[Una]

Yeah. But she's just like, she doesn't age.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah. I really think there's something to be said right now for old people. The olds are like old legacy acts in music. Killing it, selling out. They're the only ones, like, killing on, especially the rap world. Like, right now, new acts can't sell a ticket. You go see, like, 50 Cent, Wu Tang, it's like, you know, sold out arenas. The older women, the Lindsay Lohans, like these. Her and Anne Hathaway look like better than they did 20 years ago.

[Una]

That makes me happy.

[Kevin]

Let's go, girl. I mean, all you got to do is get millions of dollars.

[Una]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Again, it's not. You're not ugly or pretty. You're just rich or poor. That's literally.

[Dante]

That's so true.

[Kevin]

All right. Anything else?

[Dante]

Just like, just look at Dave.

[Kevin]

Just look at Dave. I mean, yeah, no, but for real, it's like, got some money, got the hair took. It's also, not only does the money literally help, I think when you become somebody, you're like, I can't go to the premiere, the red carpet, the event, looking like this, you know, so not only do you have the means to do it, but you have the motivation to do it.

[Dante]

The girls were Nikki. Nikki Smokes actually pulled this up. I think Ella Was talking about like, like, Dave's so hot, blah, blah. And Nikki was like, that's crazy to me. Nikki was like, pull up a photo.

[Kevin]

Gross date picture.

[Dante]

Yeah, yeah. And they pull it up and they were passing around and like the. They like floored. They were like, there's no way that's him.

[Kevin]

There's no way. Crazy.

[Dante]

I was like, no, that's him. We were in Chicago in Wicker park at some barbecue place. It was kickball weekend.

[Kevin]

Oh, that the gross day picture? Yep, yep.

[Dante]

So that picture got taken.

[Kevin]

I mean, the, the bald spot when he walked to work and all that. Like, I mean, that was, you know. But yeah, you take care of the hair, you lose a bunch of weight, you buy clothes that like fit you first. I mean, Dave used to cut his own hair and he was like, my hair is awesome. I give my own haircuts. It's like, it looks like it now. You get good haircuts. You have. Have nice clothes that fit you.

[Dante]

Well, a thousand bucks a pop for his haircuts.

[Kevin]

Guess what? I mean, that's extreme. But it looks a lot better than when you do it yourself, Dave.

[Dante]

Yes.

[Kevin]

You dress right, you lose some weight, you get tan, you eat better, like, and then it all, you know. Yes, there is a physical like element, but it's also just like the whole package. It all comes together. That's why rich people are. You know when you have a stylist and a personal chef and makeup, hair stylist, whatever, like, yeah, it all works.

[Dante]

Stylus is the biggest part.

[Kevin]

You don't realize how much. It's just like you buy this T shirt like off the rack and it fits you how it fits you.

[Dante]

Yes.

[Kevin]

When you get every single thing is tailored perfectly and high quality.

[Dante]

Someone who actually knows style and gets it and tells you like, you're going to look good in this.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Dante]

And then I feel like an idiot. No, you're going to look good.

[Kevin]

But if you also like. Yes, because they know what they're talking about. But then you go out in the world like, I am professionally styled. It's like what we were just talking about with the girls.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

You carry yourself differently when you're like, this is a five thousand dollar suit. I know it. The person you know.

[Dante]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Like, big difference. It makes all the difference in the world.

[Una]

The, the one thing that I've been wanting that like everyone is. I feel like really rich people have that like they swear by is like a LED mask or whatever. It's just like the little red light blast. I've been waiting to get it. Brie just gifted us all them. Like, she was like, oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

I just got them for you guys.

[Una]

Because I thought it would be nice.

[Kevin]

Very nice.

[Una]

So now I have a red light mask. Thanks.

[Kevin]

Those are very funny, by the way. You should do a whole podcast.

[Dante]

She's the best, man.

[Kevin]

Yeah, she's awesome, by the way. Her. We just did an interview with her, actually. Did that come out yet? I don't think it has.

[Una]

No.

[Kevin]

Thursday, she's on Special Forces, the reality show. I know the stories that she told us on this podcast, dude. I was like, you are the most badass in the world, dude.

[Dante]

I've saw it all month. She just like, she's so athletic.

[Kevin]

Even when she just stepped up for the three point contest. Like, it's like, yeah, I can shoot threes. What?

[Dante]

Yeah, that show, I saw a few from the last season. They do not take it easy on those people at all, bro.

[Kevin]

I don't want to give away the stories.

[Dante]

They're like chucking them out of helicopters.

[Kevin]

And yeah, bro, like, straight up torture. Like, what they do to, like, if I would sign up for that. I was like, but, but her, Her. And we also talked to Robbie Patel, who's on the show with him. With her. They both were like, I would do it again. I was like, you're crazy.

[Dante]

That is crazy.

[Kevin]

I think you guys are crazy for doing the beach ass again if you did. Even more insane to do Special Forces. So be on the lookout for that. Hopefully that we have to get that, like, approved or whatever. So there's a little bit of red tape. Hopefully that comes out next episode. So be on the lookout for that. And congrats to the beach house, guys. You did it.

[Dante]

Thanks, man. Also, congrats on. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Una]

Midnight Peace.

[Kevin]

I feel like people are drinking it.

[Dante]

I'm not saying sucking your dick. It's good for no, for no reason. I was very skeptical. That is a great, great bro.

[Kevin]

I am in the middle concoction. I am really just. I, I, as I keep doing this stuff, I'm learning more and more about, like, the distribution. Like, right now.

[Dante]

It's the worst.

[Kevin]

It's the worst. And I can't figure out the way to do it because this one I thought was good because it's nationwide. And I was like, oh, it's going to be available everywhere now. What I'm learning is almost that's too much that, like, I need to focus on, like, one area, crush it, and then people will be like, oh, did you see that? Illinois, like, made a lot of money selling midnight bean. Let's do it in all these neighboring states. And then it goes. So I'm like, it's just, I can't. I, I also, I started out marketing to consumers. I was like, if you buy a bottle, post, post a picture of your bottle and we'll do a contest. But when they're not in stores yet, you can't do that. So I'm like, all right, I have to target the owners of the stores and the distributors. How do I do that? Like, so I'm trying to come up with like a campaign because I'm like, I listen, if you are a local liquor store owner, I guarantee you, if you give me some, some, some shelf space, these will sell. And I, I'm, I'm like, I don't know how to reach all of the liquor store owners of America, but I promise you, if you stock this and I know about it, I will send people to your store. I have enough of an imprint that they will go and you will at least sell a couple bottles, if not more. So just stock this because it will work.

[Dante]

You know who your number one sales man is? Chuck.

[Kevin]

I know, I know.

[Dante]

I, I, dude, he was making maybe best drink I had all.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Mixing them up, turning them into slushies and all that's. And this comes ready to go. Like, just shake it, pour it, you're good to go. But if you want to put a floater in of some other vodka, you want to put in Bailey's, you want to put in Kahua, you put in ice cream. It's like a dessert. It's an after dinner drink. It's a pregame drink. It is. I'm hoping that the, maybe the cuz you can drink them all year round, but I do feel like it's a little more of a fall type of.

[Una]

Fall, like being the slushies, like before going out. Like it would be a little caffeine.

[Dante]

Yeah, you get that, you get that vibe going.

[Kevin]

Like it's not just a drink. It's like a, like, let's go get martini. Let's have an espresso. It's like a thing, you know, I, I just need everybody who tastes it likes it. Everybody is usually skeptical. They're like, it's not going to be like a.

[Dante]

No.

[Kevin]

It's like a lot of people said to me, I can't tell the difference between this and like a bar made one, which is, that's the goal. Every, everybody says that. And I don't think they're blowing smoke. I think they really mean it. So I'm just like, if you own a bar, if you own a liquor store, a distributor, whatever it is, this is at least worth taking a shot on because I guarantee you it will sell. And if you do a tasting, anybody who tastes it goes, oh, my God, this is actually good. The amount of people who said to me, I thought I was gonna have to lie to you, but now I know it's good. Like, so I know it's there. It's just a matter of getting it out there. And getting it out there is just a lot harder than apparently it. It appears.

[Dante]

It sucks, man, because It's. You got 50 different, completely different states who operate all on their own things. Yeah, it's with the liquor game is. Is not for the meat.

[Kevin]

I really thought that because espresso martinis in general were so popular, that owners would be like, I'll take anything, anything. Seltzer, anything. Espresso martini, give it to me. But apparently it's harder than that.

[Dante]

You gotta like what you don't understand.

[Kevin]

Get in.

[Dante]

For every. Like Tito's and Casamigos.

[Kevin]

You see, there are 100 million that fail.

[Una]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Endless thousands. And there's really no rhyme. Like, those usually do taste good. Or there's something to it. But also there's kind of no rhyme or reason. It's like, why did this one explode and this one didn't? Because the right person on Tik Tok made it. You know, I almost feel like, like, me doing this is good, but it's like people kind of realize that I'm a spokesman, you know? Whereas, like, what you really need is just, like, independent. I'd rather have 500,000 people with one follower make a video because everyone just goes, oh, I saw that. That person. Then one person with 500. You know what I mean? It's like, yep. You need it to be, like, ubiquitous and everywhere. And I, like, know the product is there, and it is. It's doing fine, but it's like, I just want it to hit that go. And it's kind of hard when you're.

[Dante]

It has to taste good because it could be the most, the best, marketed best. Packaging doesn't taste good. People are going to be like, one and done. So you have that covered. You know what's. You know, one of my favorite stats is being on, like, kind of like the. The bar side and like, the liquor side with New Amsterdam. Do you know the number one demographic that Pink Whitney. And when I say dominates, I mean, they're here. And number two is, like, here. You would. You will never guess it, ever.

[Kevin]

I would say, like, I mean, I know black people love pink Whitney.

[Dante]

Okay. I would say black women.

[Kevin]

I was gonna say.

[Tommy]

I was gonna be like, as black women.

[Dante]

Black women. I think it's 25 to 40. I love it. Like, they are their number girl.

[Kevin]

I feel like this has a pink Whitney like, element to it where it's a kind of a novelty. It's like, ladies, black ladies, this is for you. I'm telling you, you and your girls will love this. 1999, you get five martinis for 20 bucks. You could have it at home. You can make a slushie. Ladies night. Let's go.

[Dante]

And they're.

[Kevin]

Black ladies would love midnight.

[Dante]

They're good. It's like, I do. There's so many mix. Obviously, Owens does a phenomenal job, but you don't have the alcohol in them.

[Kevin]

It's just. It's good.

[Dante]

And they're expensive, Owens. Expensive.

[Kevin]

This is 20 bucks for a bottle with the vodka in it.

[Dante]

That's why I. I had low expectations. I was like, no one has ever done this, right? With the alcohol in it. Yes, in a bottle.

[Kevin]

This is the one, bro. This is, like, the best one on the market. I've had other ones. There's other good ones in terms of the taste and the foaming, where it, like, consistency.

[Dante]

You got a great product there.

[Kevin]

And I just like, if I could get the right push or the right person or the right moment, I just know it will rip. Because it's not even. It's not me. It's not even this. It's espresso martinis. It's like, it's there. I just gotta get it. So I'm gonna go on, like, tour in the fall. I'm gonna go to some colleges, some places, but it's also still, like. I just feel, like, overwhelmed where it's like, okay, if I go to Ohio and I crush it there, there's still 500 million other outlets and cities and states that, you know, overwhelming. But if you are a owner, give it a shot. It's through Sazerac, big distributor. They. It is available in every state. You can at least get a couple bottles, give it some. Some shelf space, send it to me. I will post your. I will be like, go to this store in this town, and people will buy it. People will drink it. They will come back for more. I guarantee it. All right.

[Dante]

Anything else?

[Kevin]

We're good. Thank you, Dante. Thank you. Unk. Be on the lookout. For Unk's new series, whatever it may be, because he's going to do something to run with this, right? Make me a promise.

[Dante]

Also, cheat code. If you buy enough cases of Satorak Sazerac product, we do this with their vodka. They have a vodka called Wheatley. Put it in our well. You get access to the Pappy Drops every year. Cuz you want Pappy, get Midnight Bean, Buffalo Trace, Pappy. That's all Sazerac. So if you actually want to get an opportunity to buy Pappy at like $200 a bottle, go to town.

[Kevin]

Black ladies and people who like Pappy. Let's go. And black ladies who like Pappy. Let's go. Everybody can get it. All right. Good stuff. Thank you, man. Thank you. S.A. sam.