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Kevin Clancy (KFC)
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Tommy Smokes
Loving it, I think. Shirt, no pants. Sh Shirt, no shirt, no pants.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Nothing on the bottom.
Pav
Nothing on the bottom. Lunacy.
Tommy Smokes
I hope you don't have white sheets.
Pav
I do have white sheets, and they're covered in chocolate. Don't in my bed.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network.
Pav
Congrats, man. Thank you very much.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's the first day of your rest of your life. I've been saying it to everybody. I mean, we. So that the episode's out. Well, I'll. I'll. I like to talk about the nerdy technical stuff, but first we just got to talk in general. And the floor is yours.
Owen
Oh, I think it went pretty quick. I think it went pretty good.
Pav
Obviously.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, I. I thought it was a great response.
Pav
I. I'm sure you don't even know, like, the weird. The only response I have. Paul Bassinet Biz texted me at 8:24pm okay. He watched it live. He's like, unbelievable. And I was like, that's all I needed to hear.
Tommy Smokes
Someone was asking. They were like, did you guys pay Biz? His tweets feel like they should be ending with, like, les mascots partner.
Pav
Like, he's texted me so much about it. He's like, he's great. I think you said he's watching it like a mom. He's watching it like a mom with, like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Wait, about my mom's watching?
Tommy Smokes
He said, if this doesn't finally get you on rye, I'm deleting the app. The only other time me and Biz have texted besides mascots is me trying to get a referral.
Pav
The. Yeah, my mom was sending pictures of, like, my nephew watching and stuff like that. Like, cool.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, man. I mean, it. It was. I never doubted it. But also watching it rip, like, this is.
Pav
It feels good.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's got to be a. Like, a very validating feeling after months and months of work.
Owen
Definitely. I mean, like, so much time has gone into this. Like, definitely the most any of us have ever dedicated to anything.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, if. Like, there's so many times in this. In the content world where. And I'm talking about putting in work, meaning, like, I worked on, like, this blog or this video for a day, so let alone, let alone like a year of writing, filming, reshooting, editing, like, real work. But, you know, you, like, pour your heart into a vlog and then, like, Malcolm Smutler posts some tits and gets 5x the views you get, and you're just like, why do I even fucking do this? You know what I mean? Why do I even try? Multiply that by, you know, a year. Like I said, like, if you guys just got, like, 6,500 views.
Pav
Cool, man. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That had even crossed my mind until you just said it. Yeah. Tonight, thinking about that. What if it had 6,500 views? You'd be doing this podcast alone, brother.
Tommy Smokes
I'D be dead in my apartment.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But, like, that's why going back to the preview episodes, like, you guys really did do it, right. Because honestly, if you just like, let it rip, you would probably face that initially.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But you had out of order, you had proof of concept. 50,000 subscribers, 200 skits, a lot of views, a lot of hype. You did, you really did the rollout. Like, you guys nailed the roll out. Not too much, not too short. Like, I felt that. Not too in your face, it felt.
Pav
Like, and I don't know why. Maybe it's easier not looking at stuff like, like whenever we used to, like, promote stuff, I was still reading stuff. So I'd see people complaining about it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
And I'd be like, oh, everyone hates this so much now. I'm just like, hey, here's a show.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
And I don't know if people are.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Complaining about it really is the way to go is, you know, still gotta post and be involved. But that, that post and ghost life is much better. But like, so there was, it was really like, no shot of it. I mean, even, even you would get views even if it, like, sucked. Because, like that first one, like, yeah, you know, there's too much attention. But to see how, how well it did do. And as much as we've been talking about how feedback and comments don't matter and you should avoid them, I don't necessarily look at the, what they're saying.
Pav
But like, general vibes, very much better.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But also, I mean, like, there was like, I think last time I checked, it was 817 comments, which is a lot like for 15 hours in a new show. And I don't know what they're saying necessarily. Good, bad, whatever. But that just shows, like, it, it's not passive watching. It's active, engaged people wanting to leave feedback. Like, there's, you know, so it's always a delicate balance of like, you know, comments, feedback, don't matter. But then when you know, you, you do need that. You know what I mean? When you see your peers who are like, really succeeding get this many views, this many comments, this much ratings, all that, it's like, you gotta, you gotta check those boxes to be a real thing.
Pav
Right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And you guys, like, checked every single box.
Tommy Smokes
It was very close to seeing, like, so many people at the company, like, promote it as well. Like, was just, it's like, oh, that's nice.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Stunning. Some might even say stunning.
Pav
I actually, I am, I, I, I know people have been very supportive around the office and Stuff like that. But like, I didn't, I didn't know that.
Tommy Smokes
I mean, if you just throw through your Twitter, like following page from 759 to 810, I saw like a hundred tweets from co workers about.
Owen
Yeah, there was one point I went through my stories and you can like tap through stories like this. I think it was like 16 in a row where it was just like all bar. Still, people like, could not be more grateful.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, I know when I, like, I'll. I'll promote people's that like, I don't even maybe necessarily like. But I know they like put a.
Pav
Lot of work into it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's like this can't just come and go in the wind. You know what I mean? Like, so, you know, it's again, it's that times a billion.
Tommy Smokes
So now let's hope everyone's to do it for six more weeks.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. Like episode two, see what's good.
Pav
That's the good thing. At least. I think it's like, if you liked episode one, I think we just get better.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, and also you guys did it right. That the pilot is a pilot, like we said.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, now the stage is set, if you like that. Now we're getting into like the show.
Pav
Right, Right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So if like you, you know, it's sort of like comedy where like, you don't want to lead with your best joke, you want to do second best joke and close you.
Pav
Like, there's a lot of story to set up. Like, we crammed a lot of story into episode one. But then even more than that, like, I just think we all got more like. Like not even. I don't even know if better is the right word. I. I said it last episode. Like, I just know what I was feeling in episode one and I. While we were shooting, I assume you were feeling something similar, just like nerves and anxiety and shit like that. And I know I wasn't feeling. Feeling them by the time we started.
Tommy Smokes
I think, I think it. It's also easier to get used to the characters in episode two as well. I think it's funnier. The episode two was just like, I mean, it's a good story, but it's just like, it's funnier. Yeah, but like, we were less worried about setting up a puppy. It's easier to get used to, like, oh, these are their characters. Like, that's. I think Kelly might have said after premiere, she was like, episode one. I felt like we're still watching our friends. Episode two is like, I'm Watching the people.
Pav
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You got to get into your character, bro.
Tommy Smokes
I've been mainly trying to do the fights of. Of not looking much, but I got tagged in a few things. Be like, why are you talking like that? You're not acting like Tommy. Why aren't you acting like Tommy? I was like, I'm not talking like. That's why I need people to get used to. And, like, maybe it's jarring an episode.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You guys are, like, kind of trailblazing that for this company, at least. People are not used to that. Right?
Tommy Smokes
But I think it might be jarring episode one because, like, I don't act like myself at all. Yeah, an episode. So, like, maybe as it goes on, people be like, oh, well, that's just the cow. Like, he is this kind of gay fear. That's what I'm supposed.
Pav
If you look at it through that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Lens, you're nailing it. But so, I mean, on the technical side of it, like, I'm sorry, one.
Pav
Thing before this technical side, my favorite part of this, a week ago, I think I realized for the first time that in the opening. Opening. But in one of the opening scenes, there's. I get sad, and I look at the board, and it's like my high school yearbook and, like, pictures of me behind the scenes kind of deal. And we were talking about, like, what order picture should be revealed in. In order to, like, heighten jokes and like that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Wait, that's the one where they, like. They use your real picture in that one, right?
Pav
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I don't know if you heard me. When that picture came up on the big screen, I went, oh, my God, that picture.
Pav
Yeah, but they were like. We were talking about what. What it was and whatnot. And I was like, well, the joke here is, like, the misspelling and. What do you mean? It's like, I like. You think succeed is spelled S U C E D. I have not notice at all. You haven't noticed that either? Not noticed that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Bunch of idiots. That's funny.
Pav
See, you got to.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You got to watch. You know, this is intense stuff. You got to use a fine tooth. Go catch all the jokes.
Tommy Smokes
Two, three watches to really get all.
Pav
And then the other thing I wanted to say, the. The homeless guy, it was. That was an actual fight. Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was awesome. And what about the. The. The. The kid.
Tommy Smokes
That was awful.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was very. You know, that was a real walk.
Tommy Smokes
Down from Time Square or forth to Washington Square Park.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was like, what, What?
Tommy Smokes
Our second or third day of Shooting. We're like, let's just keep the cameras rolling the whole time and see what happens.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That kid was great.
Pav
Like it's funny. I did not expect the 4 year old to have attitude. I was crossing that street. Like I think I can't let him get the last word.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's where you know New York City is a great X factor.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Trying to make the show in Ohio. You know you're in trouble.
Pav
Four year old's going to start crying, I can tell. You go yourself, loser.
Owen
Staying on technical and audio. Some of the complain I got was audio. I'm sorry. We filmed this in the middle of Times Square with like little DJI mics that I clipped onto their to their mascot costume. It's probably the.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I also don't even know know what you're talking about. Like there wasn't a moment where I.
Pav
Thought that it was a brief moment. There was a brief moment where we.
Owen
Had to use ADR which is dubbing over it and it's pretty hard to do it apparently. So like that's probably the one thing that I got feed.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You mean like you reread your lines like in the booth almost. But like when I was match it to your mouth.
Owen
You match it to your mouth? Yeah, it's hard to do.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I got to get some Gen Z to do that.
Pav
I. When I was watching it, I like I wasn't like, oh, this is an editing up. I was like my WI fi sucks. It's just a little laggy right now.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Didn't even notice.
Tommy Smokes
I. I didn't notice it. I, I just been.
Pav
Might have WI fi.
Owen
I do think the premiere. Because I watched on the premiere I was like, oh, this is. And then I went to go back to rewatch. It must have been my WI fi or something like that. But there was.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You can always blame. It's your TV Game of Thrones. TV settings are wrong.
Tommy Smokes
I was blown away to learn that. Like I think you said sinners like a lot of movies do the whole thing. Adr.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
It's crazy. Like they, they do it in the booth after.
Pav
That's impossible because an IMAX camera's so loud that while it's filming it can't pick up audio.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So you're telling me they just watch themselves and then like try to hit it.
Pav
Dumb it over really hard.
Owen
It's so hard.
Pav
Crazy.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Those actors are underpaid. That's. That's like again, that's like impossible to do like a single tick tock for me, let alone a whole scene or.
Tommy Smokes
Whatever that is my least favorite thing we've done.
Pav
Yeah, I think we probably only did it like, what, three days?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Three.
Pav
Yeah, probably 30 seconds.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So wait. Okay, break it down. So you'll sit down and be like, here's your scene. You watch it for a second, hear it with like whatever background noise. And then you're like, go. And you just have to be like.
Tommy Smokes
We sit in those two chairs. We watch it back. Then we just rehearse. Repeater.
Owen
Probably in like three scenes. Of course, there's one where they're like 100ft away, where we can't pick up audio there. But like, there's a couple seasons.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, that's also. If you don't. If, you know, if it's the. You don't see their mouth and it's okay.
Owen
No, exactly.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, but you do it where it's like on your mouth.
Owen
There was times. I mean, we're just in the middle of Times Square.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I just wouldn't do that. I would just think this scene has a loud camera or whatever. Like the back, like the. The noise.
Owen
I mean, ruffling. I mean, we just don't had. We didn't have the budget for a sound guy. Sound guys are expensive. So we didn't have a budget for a sound guy. So we all had to do it ourselves.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
We didn't need like a boom mic or some. We were like.
Owen
We would try with a boom mic sometimes. Like, our boom mic barely even works. We couldn't get a new one. So we're just like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's the other thing. Shut the.
Pav
You knew what?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, it's like they walk out with Cookie Monster and Elmo head in one bag. They go make a whole series. Leave them alone, bro. But that's actually like, I like. Like, I always like playing in like the big leagues where people are critical.
Owen
Oh, 100. I think it was a compliment because I think that it was just like they're expecting the production to be there because of the way it looks and because of the acting, because of the editing. But, like, there's one thing that sticks out. It's the hardest thing to do and it's really expensive.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Owen
That's why we need to be on Netflix.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, dude, I. I don't know how any of this world works. All I know is from a YouTube point of view, if. If somebody show anytime I've seen anybody doing content. If you show me your retention is basically 50, like, your watch time was a little over like 12 minutes for a 24 hour. A 24 minute show. That's bonkers really. And the click through rate is like 10 and above is like great. And that, that's like if your link is put somewhere, how often do people click on it and go into it? And like 10 and 50 retention are like the two numbers you need on YouTube to go really?
Tommy Smokes
And you go, yeah, you were sending all those screenshots this morning. I was like, is this.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I know you're bad. I knew that. You know. Yeah, you better know that.
Pav
I, I read that and I before anyone replied and I was like that question's not for me.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know. Then there's like, there's on YouTube there's like sources of traffic. It's like you go, I go back and forth on this. Like you need to get an early pop. So it's good to post from your social media and all that. But it also kind of like YouTube wants it to all be like YouTube. You know what I mean? So like let's say, let's say you had like 50 million Instagram subscribe followers and you posted it and you get like a lot of traffic. But it's not like YouTube traffic. It almost can like harm you in a way. You know.
Pav
That's funny you say that because I realized on this it felt like the YouTube viewers were much higher than the like I feel like all our viewers are usually subscribers or click link clicks.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Whereas this one was like, this was.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like search and yeah like browsers and.
Pav
Then obviously a novice speaking here. But that, that did stick out.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That is big. And that's why I also think you got like a lot of comments and interaction because I think when our. I, I don't necessarily we're finally getting there but in historically speaking. But I don't think barstool fans are YouTube people.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know, so they might go watch it and use it but they don't have a username or, and then and engage and subscribe and all that stuff. I think that's why you saw a lot that. And so once when you get some, when YouTube sees like this is a 24 minute video and people are staying for 12 minutes on average and like there's 10.
Pav
What are you doing logging out of 12 minutes. That's when it starts getting really good.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So I, I think about that too but I think it's more like zero seconds and it's, it's a bunch of people who just click on it and they're like I don't want to watch this.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
A bunch of people go 24 enemy to the middle.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah, I think the first 12 minutes and the worst 12 minutes of the whole series.
Pav
Dipping out. But stick around for 13. It really gets good at 12:59.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But that is then YouTube will look at that and be like, we're going to find the audience. Like I wouldn't be surprised if like well, tires is on Netflix now. But like if you're watching old tires on YouTube, I bet you'll be a recommended. Like they start to find.
Pav
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Similar.
Tommy Smokes
It would be great to like people are just like, oh, what's this?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's what's going to happen. That's your first one. You can't. That's where the bar stool difference is good. You had a built in audience that went and watched it.
Pav
It.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
A lot of them then are like you said there are more YouTube and then YouTube starts to see like, oh we got something here. And they start to pump it out. So I Bet you episode two, you'll see a lot of like internal YouTube suggestion traffic.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
Like I think what we're doing, we should title it the way we are at Lay mascots pilot episode one. But would we get by the algorithm for not being like bar stools first script, you know what I mean?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But you can't do that. Some standards but like, but yes, that probably would. You know, if it was like barstool employees pretend to be mascots and you just watch a TV show, it probably would be better. But yeah, you're also like for sure.
Owen
Like what, maybe 30, 000 views. I would just not.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You're good. Like if it was bombing, it was 6, 500 views. We got to pull out all the tricks.
Pav
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But to just be like episode one and that many people watching, I mean I, I, I was, I said in the chat, I'm like only minorly joking, half joking that I was watching it. Like I was watching Taylor Swift because I was so interested in that angle. Like Jack Mac had his bet with Una and like people were, you know, really arguing over that. And I was watching how it's tracking and pacing actually. Is there a big difference in the dashboard versus public?
Pav
I don't know.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
There's like usually when you look at your dashboard, you'll see the true view.
Owen
The true view is.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, they're a little bit of a.
Owen
Lag behind about like 15k.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. So that's so like. So what is it at right now? Because I saw like 89 98. Yeah. So that's a big, you know, that's a big difference. I was, I was you know, thinking I was like, oh, hopefully you'll get to like like a hundred thousand in 24 hours. You're already there. So you're probably at a hundred thousand in what, like 16 hours, whatever it is.
Pav
Yeah.
Owen
In 15 hours.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Great. Nowadays too, like that's a real number. Like, like there's so much competition and so much out there. They're like a hundred thousand views with a 12 minute retention rate and a 10 click through rate is a wagon.
Pav
Pavs was saying that it's all, it's already, it's, it's doing better than like most streaming pilots.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Like, because you're just like, you're just.
Owen
On one platform, YouTube. The best thing about YouTube is it we'll show it to other people. Like we're just talking about, which obviously.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
This is why people do this.
Pav
I was like, again, I feel we.
Tommy Smokes
Turn down all the audience.
Pav
I feel guilty because if you don't know this, because I, I hit it pretty well, I think. But on this show I've rolled my eyes a lot.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
People who came in been like, we didn't want Netflix, but. No, we did want it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's.
Pav
But I knew I, I had not knew, but I had. I, like, I would always say when we were talking to people, I'd be like, but I see the silver lining for you.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's what it is. It's like if you guys were saying we turned down Netflix or some, I'd be like, you guys are lying and stupid.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. It's like, yes, I would hope you guys would sell to Netflix or HBO Max or whoever in a heartbeat. If you don't though, like, there's a very big benefit. There's also beneficial ways to do it.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, so it's like going into this, there was really, let's be honest, no shot that this was going to be on streaming right away. So then it's like, let's focus on the good, you know, and even like I could see now that you got some, some numbers back if, if everything continues to grow and those numbers really hold, there's a world where it's like, this might be financially, like smarter to stay on YouTube, you know?
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I think when you factor in it probably will be a good number and the credibility and the like, we're a Netflix show. There's a lot of value in that. But just like monetarily, if you start to rip on YouTube, there are people who make bank on YouTube who, if you went to them and said like, can we put you on you know, like prime. They'd be like, no, no way. You know, like, and those are like comics, you know, they're like, I think Josh Johnson makes like 250 grand a month on YouTube. Crazy numbers, you know, So I don't know about like television shows.
Tommy Smokes
YouTube paid like that big.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, you got to be a gangster, but. But yeah, that's what I mean. Like, it can happen where it's like, it's sort of like, you know, somewhat of a new age of like if back in the day people were like, we're going to put our, like, we're going to put your writing in our newspaper. And we'd be like, we're going to do. Yeah, you know, like we're set on the Internet. It's a little bit of that now. I'm not going to say you should go turn down the streamers or whatever, but when, when you're doing numbers like that, it's like there's real value that I would hope streamer, you know, people would see. That's why I want, I want those like out there, you know, people know those numbers. I know. I mean, Barstool doesn't really like focus on that kind of stuff, like at least externally or ever for our stuff. But those are real legit numbers. Like having tried to do this stuff, like, when I saw those, I was like, I was happy that I wasn't gonna have to. Not that you guys even know or care, but if you were to ask me about it and they weren't good numbers. Those are benchmarks. Click through rate and retention, are it? And 10 and 50.
Tommy Smokes
The fact that 10 is we're bragging as a good number just shows how little I know. If you were like 10, I'd be like, oh no, that can't be good.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No matter what.
Pav
Stop saying.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But I mean, I guess, you know, logically, like, how many things do you see on the Internet that you just scroll right by and don't click? Like, you know, so if one out of 10 people like are, you know, we're almost 10 people in the room right now. Everyone's on their phones just like scrolling through shit and somebody was watching the episode, you'd be like, oh, hell yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean those point.
Pav
Yeah, about 100% of I scroll through and don't click at all.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And then, you know, the Average person is 12 minutes is. That's another thing. It's like, I like stuff that.
Pav
What would you say your click through rate is as a person? So I mean, it's probably like it's 0.01%. So like 1%, 10 full ass percents is a big.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And then, and then how many things do you like, like watch, you know, 30 seconds of. Yeah, so I actually don't do that.
Pav
If I watch something, it's like, yeah.
Tommy Smokes
I'm gonna watch it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like I, I look at these numbers on like my videos where it's like a minute and 30 seconds. I'm like, you can't watch that whole thing. Like you tuned out after like 10 seconds. It's only like, like 60 more to go. How does that work?
Pav
Like, is it counting someone who's literally just scrolling by? Are they counting that as like zero?
Tommy Smokes
Probably gonna watch for like, like a.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Each different. Each platform has their own thing. Like that's why YouTube is kind of like king is that. I, I actually don't Even know what YouTube's number is. Do you know? It's like I have no clue. You know, like Snapchat used to be like, if you, your eyes like look at it, like you can scroll by it.
Tommy Smokes
I think it's like 30 seconds.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I think Instagram's like three seconds. Everyone has their own thing.
Pav
Okay.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And YouTube is a significant.
Pav
But if I'm. Let's say I'm on Twitter and I just watch the video without clicking on it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I think they can, I think they know now when you like slow down your scroll. Yeah, I don't know if that counts as a view, but it goes into something.
Pav
You know, I will.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I don't know about your statistics, but for your like your algorithm, like we're going to feed him more of this because he slowed down.
Tommy Smokes
Okay.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But I don't know if that would register as a view, but it registers as.
Pav
They're going to fucking get you.
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Tommy Smokes
Like hypocrite if I like make a video that's like longer for TikTok that's like two or three minutes. I'm like, well, People could just watch it. But then I'm scrolling through TikTok and I see one that's three minutes. I'm like, no fucking.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I've really been trying to, like, get, get, get in that, you know, Like, I used to make one minute, man. Sometimes they were like 10 minutes. And then, and then I tried to keep it. Once they expanded Instagram to three minutes, I was like, all right, I'm gonna use all three minutes. But then, like, if you look at those numbers, you look at those curves and stuff, it's like any of those jokes that you used or references you made or whatever it is from like minute two to minute three, nobody's watching. Yeah, same thing as the podcast with hours. We used to be like, three hour podcast. If you had some good. In the end, nobody saw it.
Pav
Yeah, nobody heard it.
Owen
So I, I grabbed coffee with a director that went to an Ivy League school a couple months ago, and I was just asking him what he thought about, out of order to show him some of my stuff. And he's like, his grade and all, but I would just start prepping to make your movies one minute long. And I was like, how come he's just talking about the way that attention spans are going, like, but that can't keep happening.
Pav
But no, but I, like, I kind.
Owen
Of said, I backed down. I was like, it's wrong. I think, I think that, yeah, for maybe the next couple of years, we'll be wanting shorter movies and we'll still be tick tock brain, all that stuff. But I think it all comes back around.
Pav
Shorter than a minute.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Impossible.
Pav
Like 30 seconds at some point. Time is finite and, like, you're going to run out of it. So you can't keep. The advice can't keep being make it shorter. Make it shorter.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Make it shorter. I firmly believe, like, everything is so cyclical. And we kind of talked about this before. I can't remember what, what I was using some sports leagues. Oh. Kind of like baseball, like the Golden App at. And some of these rules that are like, trying to make baseball more watchable.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But, like, there's gonna come a time where people get mad at all these leagues, like, for being gimmicky. Like, even the NBA is kind of starting to see it where it's like, oh, we don't like the court this way and we don't like some of the things they do. There's going to be a movement eventually where sports fans are like, I just want to watch a real regular baseball game. And if you've bastardized your product to try to keep up with them when it's your time to shine because you like stuck to your guns, you're.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And I really believe that like. But people are getting a little sick of there. You should cater to the audience that wants to watch a two hour movie or a 30 minute TV show. And if you're not into that, that's it.
Pav
That's it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
We're making a TV show. Maybe. And maybe you go maybe every now and then you make an out of worst kit that's a minute and a half long.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And you give them a little something but you start catering. It's same thing with music. These two minute songs are crazy. It's like a verse, a course and you're out. And it's like I hate that. I want it to be like four minutes long and I will listen to songs that do that. But everybody, that's the, that's the problem with the whole world is like with social media, you see it working. I have to do more of that. Rather than just sticking to your guns.
Pav
Just keep doing what feels good. And also what I think about is good too.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like if you guys were making a 24 minute product that sucked dick and I was like, it's only funny for two minutes, then fine, yeah, but you're making a good product. And again to mention the numbers, like people are watching it. You know, if your view time was two minutes I'd be like, I don't know, maybe you guys should go back to skits. Maybe long form's not your thing. But it's proving to work. And you guys more importantly like it it.
Pav
I think that quality, the most important proof, I think speaking for everybody is like we proved it to us.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Oh, we can make this so we can do it another time. Like all season one. I think I already said this all season one had to do was convince us.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yes.
Pav
And we already did that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right. So a long time ago that the, the like when you, when you are doing something you actually really like, really truly and not just like saying that or not trying to feel that way. When you do like the rest of the really doesn't matter.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like if you're into a project, you want to see some good feedback, you want to see some good numbers, all that. But if you really feel it like truly in your heart and your head, like you don't even think about it.
Pav
You know, I wake up, they're doing construction of my apartment above me this morning. They've been doing it for three weeks. Now I wake up so happy, despite the fact that my cortisol levels are through the roof because every time I wake up, it's just they're literally ripping down the walls upstairs and they start at 8 on the dot. So every day at 8, a sledgehammer goes into my wall.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
If that ain't like the most figurative.
Pav
Like, my world just gets rocked.
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Pav
Right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
In some way.
Pav
And then we're all just barking for attention.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right? Right.
Tommy Smokes
Dance monkeys dance for real.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But when you're. When you like the dance as a monkey.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And you're Not.
Pav
No one's watching.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's why monkeys, like, eat their own and stuff in their mouth. They're just having a good time. You guys are just peeing on your own mouth. But that's really hard to achieve. Is like, you know, the. The perfect storm is. I like doing this. I don't even care about the audience or the numbers, but it also happens to be there.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And the big, like, the secret is that, like, to get there, you usually have to feel that way. You know what I mean? Like, that comes out in your work is like, you can tell that they're just doing it to do it and not doing it for the audience. And then you get the audience.
Pav
You know what scene I was thinking of? I was thinking of exactly that. That always sunny everything. I think of the episode with Jason Sudeikis when Charlie's doing the butt dance, and he's like, charlie, you're not having fun doing it. Why would any of us have fun watching you?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right?
Pav
And I always. I was like, we had so much fun doing this, so you probably gonna have fun watching it. I would guess.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I remember early. Early on, like, when I was writing for sure. Not my kind of, like, first goal was because that website was, like, literally made for, like, me and my friends. So it was all of our slang and terms and euphemisms and all that sort of. And I feel like if you come across that, you. You go one of two ways. You're either like, I don't know what the. Any of that means. Like, see you later, or you're like, I want to find out what that means.
Pav
You know, I want to be on the job.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I want to get in on that. Right, right. Like, I mean, and. And then when. When people go into it with that mindset, then they're like, in your world, they're not just viewing, they're, like, learning. And then they start to use it. Like, there was for sure not. I used letters and acronyms and that. Like, looked. If you just tuned into it and didn't know, you'd be like, this is like gibberish. Doesn't make any sense. I had a headline. It was like, all mouth, no trousers. And it became like a.
Tommy Smokes
That's your phrase.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was amazing.
Pav
That was. I thought I would have had that one.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I would have had that on a regular day.
Pav
I had a feeling I was, bro, you stood that up good. I was in.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I do mean everything I said, by the way. I just happen to say this is a good opportunity.
Tommy Smokes
Use my cuz. I was Almost thinking like, I might try to use mine. Being like, I remember reading one of.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Your old vlogs and you said I.
Pav
Was like trying to slip that through.
Owen
A red velvet door.
Pav
That one didn't go up. We're finally talking about him now. I'll give my. Everyone's defenses are as high as they'll possibly be.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Slip through a red. Are these made up or these real?
Guest or Producer
Those two I made up like half and then.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But was red velvet door and mouth tried trousers. All mouth, no trousers.
Guest or Producer
That I think is a real one. Like, I. Look, I asked Chatgpt for like real old timey obscure ones. I actually think all mouth, no trousers is a real one.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I don't know what it means by legging. It sounds like all bark, nobody.
Pav
All hat, no cattle.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, exactly. But like, I mean, I understand all bark, no bite. But what would.
Guest or Producer
Maybe it's not. You're not walking the talk like mouth trousers. Maybe that's what.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah, it makes me.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It feels.
Pav
Oh, wait, that's what exactly it is. You're.
Tommy Smokes
You're not walking up trousers now.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Oh, yeah. Okay. It makes. It makes me feel like somebody talks.
Owen
A lot but never actually does anything.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Sounds strangely sexual to me. I'm like, I don't know. But anyway, everything I said there really is true. Like. And so when you are like, you know, just doing your world and doing it well, people. And people want to be in it. That's how you get like, we. I mean, what's. What's. What's your fan base going to be called? I mean, I guess you could just call them the mascot, but you got to have a name for your fan base.
Pav
You know, come to the mascots.
Owen
So funny.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So. Oh, and wait, what. What is the like. Oh, Les Mis. Okay. Yeah.
Pav
Yeah.
Owen
But it's.
Pav
Honestly, I don't think anyone did, which shocks me because obviously it's all like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's laying an end.
Tommy Smokes
We do even say, like, we make a reference to Les Mis in the pilot.
Pav
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, I. I bet you there's a good amount of people who don't. Don't make that connection.
Pav
So I think Path said some people thought it was Lower east side.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, I mean, once I heard like 10 years in that PFT. Didn't know that part of my take was like the. The reasoning behind that name.
Pav
He didn't?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No. Oh, I did not know that he didn't know. I mean, I guess you never know, but he didn't know that it was part of the interruption and first take, like, put together. And I was like, if that's the case, then anybody could get like, wait, that can't be. It might have been.
Pav
They got sued by ESPN so fast, I think.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But I think, yeah, I think that's. Oh. So I guess. I guess maybe until the lawsuit. I think I heard, like, later, like, 10 years in, I heard him talk about it, but I think when they got the lawsuit, he was like, what is. I don't get it. That makes sense. But again, you never know with him. That could have been, like, part of a big.
Pav
No, that. That I. That tracks.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But. But anyway, what was we saying about Owen?
Owen
Oh, it. When Owen made the official post for Mascots pilot, AI Autocorrected like, Like, the Google AI on the tweet, translated it to the mascots. But you can change it and no one hates AI more.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I'm like, his moment, something he put.
Owen
His blood, sweat and tears on, like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
He couldn't beat it.
Pav
He's been doing his best to beat.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
AI the last year.
Pav
He's on his own mission. He's the only one doing it. He's doing his best to beat it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But at the very.
Pav
On his biggest moment, it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's great. You guys should, like, work that into the show.
Pav
Like, you guys try to fight AI.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Just let Owen pour his soul into it. I just see him, like, ripping Sigs, writing, like, this artificial intelligence. That's hilarious.
Pav
Henry would hate cgi.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So when you guys, like, got those characters, like, like, I mean, it's pretty. I think the characters are, like, pretty straightforward. But was there any. Like, was Owen like, no, you're not doing it right? Or like, here's. I view it this way. Like, why are you doing it this way? And, like, any push and pull on that? Or was it just like, you're a little bit gay, you're a little bit idealistic? Like, you know that sort of.
Pav
I wouldn't say it was, like, outright you're doing it right or wrong. But, like, I. I think Henry is not as originally conceived. Like, the first time we shot the opening day, I was, like, kind of playing a little more like, cool guy.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Like, I don't really care. Like, we're just chilling. Who gives a. And then we reshot opening scenes after we had shot some of the show.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah.
Pav
And I was like, I don't think I'd be as, like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I kind of got that vibe. Is the conversation with Ari a reshoot?
Pav
Yes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Because I Even. That I felt like, was a little like, you were kind of like, Laid on the couch just like, yeah, like, what's going on?
Pav
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And then as that episode went on, you are like, is that my phone? Sorry. As that episode went on, you were, you're more like you care.
Pav
And yeah, it was, you know, it was very much one of those things. Like you really don't realize who the characters are until you start like shooting, interacting with each other.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right.
Pav
And then it was like, ah, never mind. Henry's more like Marlon than he is is like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right, right, right.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah. I think for me, like I remember when we were talking about like how. Cuz I changed my voice like a decent amount. Like I think Owen said, like talk like Francis, but gayer.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Good direction.
Tommy Smokes
That was kind of like what I kept.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I was going to say that's what you did. You nailed it.
Pav
Where it's just like you were. I remember when we were walking to Washington Square park, you were like making a point to hit your, hit your annunciation.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah, yeah, I want to hit enunciations. Hit some incorrectly like Beyonce. Because I think the whole point is like he, Marlin like thinks he's a lot better than he is. Like he's very like, you know, over, like on, on a state or on the red steps. Like this is my big moment. Like I have to do this and that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's a little bit Mac in my mind. Who him from Sonny. Like I, I think like a little bit gay. Like, like, you know, thinks he's the best. And I think there's a lot of.
Pav
Mac in a lot of the characters. Yeah, there's like that confidence of.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Which again is just any character who's confident.
Tommy Smokes
But sure, I think both, specifically Marlon, I, but both. All characters are like acquired tastes maybe.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
At first, like we, we don't want them to be overly likable people, but we will eventually see sides of them, I think, that are more human, which is cool.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's what we've been saying all along is that there's like some real guts to this.
Pav
Yeah. Like I, I, I, I, they, I, I, I think people will cry watching this show.
Owen
I think so. I think that there's a couple moments that I was just like, wow, like watching them do it behind the camera.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I was like, I'll tell you right now, if I cry at your show, I'm killing myself.
Pav
I was gonna say, what are you guys talking? Oh, I think, I think, I think there's some emotional scenes.
Owen
There's two monologues by both of them. And I was like, that's incredibly impressive. Great writing by Owen, and they execute it perfectly where I think if you're really, really, really sensitive person, you will, honestly.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But even, like, some of the fans who were at the premiere, I think will, like, though there are people who love you guys.
Pav
Oh. The only reason I'm saying is because people have already said, I cried.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Jackie was, you're not in here. He's one of them.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Wow.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, that. I mean, but even just, like, talking to some of the fans who are, like, at the premiere, you know, sometimes you just forget that, like. Like, there's a lot of people out there who are, like, really with your.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know what I mean? And it's really cool. Yeah. Yeah.
Pav
Like, but you forget that because there's so many people saying, I hate this. And that's who you're thinking of.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Totally.
Pav
There's plenty of people who really enjoy.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
As I just said to Paz, like, I. I like that we've always played in the big leagues. Like, you're always getting compared to the best. We're in, like, the comedy section of podcasts. You're being. You know.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But it's all. And then. But then you forget. Like, you feel like small fish in a big pond. And then it's like. Like, but if, you know, I'd be in this pond, I'd be the man. It's good to remember that and good to, like, see that. That. That. I. I think that's also why, like, if you're a comic or anybody, a singer, whatever, like, there's a ton of hate. But, like, every time you take the stage, when you. When you. When your thing is live, and every night, you're getting validated with anywhere from hundreds to thousands of people, like, laughing and watching and coming out and spending money that outweighs a million bad comments. You know what I mean? So doing things like that go a long way.
Tommy Smokes
I think the only way to get validation on an Internet show is from commenters, and they're gonna be me. Well, unless you're able to get internal validation.
Pav
That's the valid. My only complaint about this show is that. And it's not this show, it's shows in general. Doing the show, I felt more like. Like playing sports than I ever have. Like, since playing sports. Whereas, like, we have a team.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Everyone's got roles.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
Handle it. Figure it out. Like, if you do your part, I'll do my part. All that. And that's. And it's really cool to feel like you're on a team again.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
You don't get to celebrate with your team, which sucks, I guess.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, like after a win, you're like, high five and.
Pav
But like a big hog. Like, yes, dude.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, well, maybe you gotta do that then though. I don't know, maybe you gotta like manufacture that a little bit. That's why I think sometimes doing like, like, like corny work things like outings and like that premiere.
Tommy Smokes
A little bit.
Pav
Yeah, a little bit. I. I was missing a hug last night.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You're all just sitting on.
Pav
Not like, I wasn't sad. I wasn't like, oh. But I was like, pavs needs a hug right now.
Tommy Smokes
I watch this. All right, guess go take a shower.
Pav
I watched it and I just put on the socks and I was like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
All right, there goes, you know, like 10 months of work. Just like, there it is.
Pav
Okay. All right, what's next?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, that's also why.
Pav
That is the crazy. I was seeing this last night where like the bummer of it is. And it's not a bummer, obviously, but like speaking for me, it's. It's a dream come true. Yeah, it's a literal dream come true. And it's like, gotta go work tomorrow. Yeah.
Owen
If you told me like two years, three years ago that this would happen, like, I wouldn't believe you would be by the biggest dream like to ever come true and I would not believe you. And then it's just like, it just happens and you're just like, all right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well there's good and bad. There's good and bad to that. Cuz I, I think everybody here who succeeds and everybody like on the Internet in general and, and content and entertainment, if you're really good, like, it's really just like next thing up, you know what I mean? Like, you don't really rest on your laurels at all. But there is a balance of like celebrating your wins as well that you need to do that and, and that ain't. You are at the wrong company. Like, I absolutely think there's. If you worked. I don't even know. There's no. Like, like, I don't know another. If there was another company like us, like, there's for sure a world where other companies you would have walked in today to like balloons and like a surprise party.
Pav
Congrats.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like there would have been a party for something like this, you know, and we just don't do that.
Pav
Yeah, and that's. But like, that's not. I don't, I don't mean that. I just mean like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No, but, but if that was happening you would get, you would feel that and you'd get your hug and like it would just be a reminder that.
Pav
Like a lot of it, like around bar school. I don't mean it from bar. I don't need it from anybody. But I just mean like there isn't that big like. Yes, yes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, like a clock expires. Well, that's also though. I mean, I don't, I really don't think anybody here does a lot of what they do for the money. But when, when money, money is like the key indicator of success. You know what I mean? Like if there's a bunch of sponsors and interest and all that, it's like, oh, we, if people are spending money on it or interested in it, we smashed it. You know? Cuz like there will always be good and bad feedback. There's no way to like really quantify it or still. It's like people are knocking down your door for it. We must have done something right. You know, it's not, it's not actually the money, it's the reasoning behind it.
Tommy Smokes
You know, we'll do those hugs. I was saying after the final episode airs, like maybe a week or two after full cast and crew staked season.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
One or, or final.
Tommy Smokes
Final after season one.
Pav
We're not waiting 12 years for a dinner. But I still mean like, I, I'm not strictly talking about like just embracing and congratulating each other.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
The time aspect, a goal.
Pav
We won that like, that's the cuz again, I, I just. This whole time in this whole process, I've been like, oh, I feel like I'm like playing sports again. This is cool. And, and that's just the one piece that's missing.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, it's like you either get drafted or you win the game or what you called up. There's like, like any moment to celebrate. This is sort of like he's got.
Pav
To win a Emmy is what it.
Tommy Smokes
Or a Golden Globe.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
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Pav
No.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So Paul Hauser's in. In it, right? What's Paul Walterhauser who also.
Pav
Well, you finished your story first.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
He just reviewed it and it was like an honest review. It was like he gave it three and a half stars out of five, and then the blurb was very nice. It was like, you know, heartfelt characters that really, like, had a lot of depth to them. And I'm just like, like, so stunned that I got to be in a Marvel movie. It's a dream come true. So it was a little bit like his own, but also kind of just like critiquing the, the, the blur was positive. But then he gave three and a half out of five stars, and I thought that was like, wow, that's a pretty honest review. It's no good.
Pav
His letterbox is very popular because he does.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
He does. He's real, right? Yeah, it's a smart move. So, I mean, so what would you give your Paul Hauser review of Play.
Pav
Mascots five stars, Pilot.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's the answer.
Pav
Well, I, I, I, that's what I would give it. I, I own my letterbox. I only do three, four, and five stars.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Stars.
Pav
Three is it was fine. Four is it was good. Five is it was really good. I'll get that five stars.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And why don't you do one and two?
Pav
I never watch something and I'm like that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But like, but if you did, would you would give it a one or two, right?
Pav
I, I also don't like to watch.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
A piece of and give it a 3.
Pav
I guess I don't really watch a lot of pieces of or I don't.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Bail on it and not review it.
Pav
Like, I watched that War of the Worlds yesterday the other day. Like, I did it for fun.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, I did not put that in my letter. Right. You're not even.
Pav
But like that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I basically just wouldn't even dignify it with my opinion.
Tommy Smokes
I always have that with movies where, like, it'll take me so long, long to decide what movie to watch. I'll scroll through, like, I'm not gonna like this. I'm not gonna like this. And then after every movie I watch, I go, that was good. Pretty much every movie is pretty good.
Pav
I'm not gonna give a movie one star. That's crazy.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's why I've always said the world needs more like real, like regular, honest reviews. Because if you are a movie reviewer and it's your craft, you're gonna take it seriously and like, that's all you do. You are gonna give out one.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You are gonna, like, pick it apart. But just like an average person being like, like, did you regret that last two hours or not? That's what I need to know.
Pav
Yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know, because if a regular person is just like, I wish I did not do that for the last two hours, that movie sucks. Because I think most people go, all right.
Pav
But I, I also like, with, with reviews, like, I don't, I don't talk to people about movies I don't think they'd like. You know what I mean? Like, if I see a movie that, like, I know you wouldn't like, I'm not gonna be like, kevin, this movie, it was really good. Yeah, I know it's not your style.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I also, the review style is what drives me crazy. Like if, if you, you talk to your friends, the way that some of these movie reviewers write, you're a. I was just like, how was that movie? And you were like an opening scene that pulls at the heartstrings but falls flat ultimately when the blood, you know, it's like, what, who, what is that? So, yeah, I think maybe that's, maybe we should just have like real honest but positive reviews of Lay Mascot. I just want to hear the people being like, I liked it. Me and my friends liked it done.
Pav
I want to, I actually want to read reviews of those other ones. I want to review the serious ones, the letterboxed people who do full on reviews. And they're just a regular ass letterbox user.
Tommy Smokes
Are we on letterbox?
Owen
No, you can't be on letterbox. You can put a pilot on letterbox, but I don't.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Oh, yeah. I thought it wasn't even tv.
Owen
You can do movies you can do a pilot. You can do, I believe. Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Interesting.
Owen
We can definitely get on imbd. If someone would like to make that, that'd be awesome.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But it's, it's just. Well, I, I don't know. In talking to Kroll after he wrote his article, he was like, like the best way to sum it all up. He was just like, if this was on a, on a television show, like a streaming service, it wouldn't bat an eyelash. Which I think is like the best thing you can hear. You know what I mean? Like, I feel about the Midnight Beam when people are like, I. This tastes like a bar to a martini to bar. It's like, that was my goal. I would love somebody to be like it. The, the espresso notes and the vodka, amazing, great. But if someone's just like, aroma. Yeah, yeah, the T cannons or some.
Pav
By the way, before we get off, Paul Walter Hauser. I read a quote from him the other day that thought was so cool that he told. He's like, I don't know. I told like 70. They asked him about being in a Marvel movie and how they have NDAs and you get so secretive and stuff like that. And he's like, look, I followed the rules, I didn't tell people I shouldn't tell and stuff like that. He's like, but I'm not gonna pretend I didn't tell anybody. He's like, I told probably 50 to 70 people. And he goes, he's like, told my family, I told my friends. I told some strangers I was taking pictures with.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Did you see Kumail Nanjiani on Mike Birbiglia show?
Pav
I saw some clips. I saw him talk about meeting Musk and Zuckerberg. That was funny.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No, this was about the Eternals. And he was like, it shattered me when that movie flopped. It was like, we needed to go to therapy. Like, like for a couple, like on a personal level. He was like, I realized how much my happiness and personality is tied to what people think of my work. So of everything we've been talking about for the last couple weeks, but also, it's tough. I can, I can. I really sympathize with that position because, like, you guys have been very measured. People might hate this, it might flop, whatever. When you sign a Marvel contract, they sign you up for six more movies. They sign you up. He said it was a 12 year deal and it talked about, I think I don't want to. I might get the numbers wrong, but I think it was like 12 years, six movies, merchandise. They gotta, they gotta cover all that in case it happens. So he was like, I'm signing all this. Being like, this is the next decade of my life and this is like, I've made it, and this is what I'm gonna. I gotta focus on this. And, you know, my. I'm gonna be on a lunchbox, and I gotta get my agent talking about, what's my cut from, like, lunchboxes?
Pav
You know?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And then none of it happened. Like, it just. It flopped. And he was like. And then it's just like, yeah, I'm sure the people in the. In the offices just crumple that up and throw it away. And you're just left there to be like, oh, my God, Especially him. I remember everybody talking about how he got jacked and.
Pav
Yeah, for nothing.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But, yeah, it was. It was a long. It was a long of years. And like, many, many movies, and it's just because they have to plan for that contingency, and if it doesn't happen, doesn't happen. And he was like, it wrecked me. And I can really understand that. Like, other projects, I could. I'd be like, they don't. Don't count your eggs. Like, you should be measured. You should. That's on you. But if Marvel comes to you and says, here's our plan, and everyone else, it's worked for. Because that was kind of the beginning.
Pav
That was, like, the first one.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I remember being super excited for that one. I was like, I think I'm gonna like this the most host. And then I was like, yeah, doing.
Tommy Smokes
This does make me want to be less critical of, like, movies and shows because totally, like, we worked hard. It's like, I know how hard we worked on this and put it all in. It's like, now if I. Like, even if I watch a terrible movie, I'm gonna be like, well, I bet they had a really good time making it. I bet everyone did their best.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's what I was saying about.
Pav
About if Tommy's turned into everyone did their best guy. It's real, though, because it's like Tommy in, like, gambling caves in the future now. Like, well, I don't know. Jazz Chisum did his ass. You applying that to your sports fandom is very funny. Aaron Judge was in the cross.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
He was like, get rid of.
Tommy Smokes
In the cages. In. I might be no more negative Tommy. Yankee fan sign Aaron Boon for life. He's trying his best.
Pav
Aaron Boon.
Tommy Smokes
You don't think Aaron Boone wants to win?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's great. All right, Anything else on mascots before we wrap it up? No.
Owen
I'll go swap.
Pav
Thank you for watching. Thank you for supporting.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, 100. If you're one of those first hundred thousand, you Are like the. Yeah, there'll be a day. Those people are like, I was. I watched the premiere on YouTube that first episode. No way, man. Now they're making a million each an episode.
Tommy Smokes
And it only gets better.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
I genuinely do think it gets. If you liked episode one, I just genuinely. Do you think?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But that's also like. Like, yes, from a plot point of view and all that, but, like, just logically speaking, like, you guys are gonna get better at acting as the show goes on and as the seasons go on and as, you know. So it's like, it actually does just get better.
Owen
I do think episode two is much, much better than episode one.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And it's also just like, we've got the plot rolling now.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know, so there's a lot of setup and like that.
Owen
Yeah, definitely.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Congrats, boys. It's awesome.
Pav
Thank you very much.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
All right, Jackie in beach house week three coming up. You know, there's not. I think we just gotta see what this week brings. Can't really preview too much of you guys. Just.
Tommy Smokes
Dave just had a tweet about Rico going. Oh, he said, hold on.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, this isn't a do weekend. Right. Or at least in the due day.
Tommy Smokes
Yes. Supposed to come.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, Rico was not prepared.
Tommy Smokes
Plan is Maybe go to DJs.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
See, right.
Tommy Smokes
Nadu could go. And I don't know what's in this clip from our own dot com, but Rick, Dave retweeted it saying, some would say not me, but some would say not going to the Jersey shore for the beach house in your entire existence has been West Bar DJs makes Bosco a fraud. Thankfully, I won't say that Rico said.
Guest or Producer
He'S coming next weekend because he's going to Saratoga this weekend. I've been pushing him.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I'm a writer. He's my teammate, you know, but there's.
Pav
Some truth to that, that he's got to go.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's just like, DJs is his thing.
Tommy Smokes
Like, it'd be tough look if. If Nadu. He should just stage a DJ's pulling out.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well. Well, that. That to me. That to me is almost like the. The end. The potential end of, like, the to do Rico rivalry. Like. Like, that. It's just. It's boiling, in my opinion. It comes to this moment, like, there was the plane and there was some big things where, like, it came to a head. But, like, to me, Nadu should either be, like, denied from DJs, or he, like, gets on the bar at DJs. Yeah. Like, you know, and Rico's in A tough spot. Because, like, if it was me, I would call Fun Anthony and I would call these guys and be like, yo, yo, don't let them in. They're probably like, that's like not allowed. You know what I mean? Like, we just.
Pav
I mean, can you put Tims.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I would hope. What's that?
Pav
So can you put him in a tall tee and Tim's. I can keep them out, but make.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Sure to do has a backwards hat.
Pav
And a jersey on.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Wait, what? Cuz like, bouncers will be like, you're not allowed to wear racist people. But. But like, like, for the sake of like the content, I. I would hope that my friends would at least like, the cameras are on. Like, deny him. Maybe he gets it. But like make a show of it. Like Rico people, you know, flip side, if. If the dude gets in and there's some bartender who doesn't know or doesn't care and he's giving him grails and lets him on the mic and he could touch the blinds or whatever, like, Rico's got to kill himself.
Pav
You know, it reminds me of the Brady Richard Sherman rivalry.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Okay.
Pav
And they. They had this rivalry going back and forth and all this stuff. And then super bowl, whatever it was the Pats Seahawks, when Brady didn't get the picture of Brady not getting off his knee. It. It's. It's. And honestly, what happened in the moment is the picture looks much, much worse than what actually happened, but it's Brady taking the knee to win the game and Richard Sherman standing over with his hand out and Brady just looking the other way. And what happened was he was just literally looking the other way.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right. And it was a one second thing.
Pav
He got up.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, totally.
Pav
But it looks like a picture. It's like, you. I won. This is over. And I kind of feel like that's nado.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know what's another example of that? The. The like, I think the best sports picture of all time, the Muhammad Ali picture where he's standing over him, like flexing.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Is like a split second. He's just like. Yeah, that's it. It's not like he, like Alan Iverson, him like stand. He was just like, quick flex and the guy grabbed it and it's like the most iconic picture ever. But yeah, to me that's like, this is it.
Pav
All of the talk.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And now we have the setting, the bar, the. The cameras, like, like all of that. So. But also just like. I mean, I don't know. I was. I frequented the Jersey Shore a lot and. But I. If I was like, the. Well, I don't know. I did talk about Parker House a lot and all that. So, like, I guess you can make the argument if it would apply to me, too. Like, why aren't you there? But I don't know. It was, like, deep. It was like, his personality.
Pav
Yeah.
Hank
I mean, I think it really comes down to, like, if Nadu pulls Latina.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That night, because that's just a crazy break. You're right.
Pav
But it's just like, you a Latina that night.
Hank
Rico's saying, like, he won't come because he doesn't want to, like, strike. Like, show that he, like, you know, talks all this game about all these Latinas and then strike out on camera.
Tommy Smokes
We were on FaceTime with him the other day, and he's like, listen, like, there's not a lot of, like, black girls and Latinas down there. And it's like, we can't change the demographic of Madison, New Jersey.
Pav
You got to work a stuffed pond. What is it they play foot is called stuffed. What do you call it when they salmon in for the dude to come.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
In those tubes and shove them in? Just throw some Latinas in a tube.
Pav
And send them to Jersey.
Guest or Producer
Like, there's a lot of racially ambiguous people I've seen.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I was gonna say.
Guest or Producer
I mean, I can never tell if anyone's black.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It is, like, obviously it's a white, but it's not like. I don't know. It's not like. Like Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard or some, like, you go to, like, the boardwalk at Jinx, and there's all sorts of people.
Pav
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know, so.
Hank
And if you're this, like, you know, ladies man that you say that you are, work with what you got. You can't, like, just Nick's out the Jersey Shore.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. That's a big. It's just, like, everybody, look.
Pav
I can close everywhere except the Jersey Shore. Jersey Shore's tough for me.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's what everyone who absolutely have no sex go to Jersey Short. I Sex.
Pav
Yeah. I can hit home runs, but only when I'm facing Pedro. Home run derby gets a little tough. I. I would.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Would. I would. I would stack the deck on that one. I would pay, like, five escorts to be at the bar. Which one am I picking today? Look at my haircut. There happens to be five and only five Latinas.
Pav
Thanks for coming. Luna star. Steve liked that one, huh?
Tommy Smokes
I mean, she is as fire as a frog hair split four ways. I. I'll say it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Say it again.
Tommy Smokes
Say frog Hair split four ways. That's a very common phrase I'm using naturally.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I. I describe latina women that way all the time. A frog hair split four ways. Frogs even have hair, I guess, is that.
Tommy Smokes
I think they're, like, so small that.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
The tiniest hair split four ways.
Tommy Smokes
I mean, these are hard.
Pav
These are hard. I didn't come up with that one.
Guest or Producer
That's a real one.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I didn't come up with that. That's crazy. Crazy.
Tommy Smokes
But, yeah, I mean, like, noticed it.
Pav
I don't know what you're talking about.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I feel like, you know, it's hard for Rico. He's like, I think. How old is Rico? He's my age, younger. I don't know.
Tommy Smokes
So he's pushing older than me.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
37.
Tommy Smokes
So be older.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You're pushing 40. Got, you know, you got family life, got OS. It's hard to just be like, yeah, I'm going to the Jersey shore with. With all these people.
Tommy Smokes
I didn't realize he's going to Saratoga toga this week.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pav
You can't be having people change their vacations. I wasn't in the show.
Tommy Smokes
He's going with Dave for horse racing.
Pav
Oh.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Oh, so then you really can't.
Guest or Producer
Yeah, he told me he's free labor day, though. So, like.
Tommy Smokes
But no, now I'm almost wondering if Dave would be like, no, don't go. Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Or make nadu go on a weekend where Rico could go. You know what I mean?
Tommy Smokes
I think to do. It's been hard. It's been hard enough to land this.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Pun intended wasn't attended.
Tommy Smokes
But next.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I. I just think, you know, there's got to be, like, Rico throwing some napkins. Like. Like, I. I don't know. I've seen the gif of him enough where the lights are flash. We got the whistle in his mouth, and he's fist pumping. Like, go recreate that.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know, like, you've got. But that's easier. Easier said than done. Like, if somebody was like, you have to go, I'd be like, no, I don't. But I also don't have, you know.
Tommy Smokes
You also don't have personality rivalry.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
If I. If my. If my rival. Rival was there, I would. I would certainly.
Pav
Who is your rival? Who this is to everybody. Do you have a rival, Jackie?
Tommy Smokes
Not off the top of my head. I. I've always said I'm looking for a good rival.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
I've always wanted, like, I missed, like, you know, Hamilton and Burr. People used to have a true. Like, they'd be like my own worst enemy. Like, I feel like most normal, well adjusted people in 2025 don't have a worst enemy. Yeah.
Pav
And also, I would say Burr and Hamilton weren't normal.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Normal.
Pav
No, they're well adjusted. But like, they were like.
Tommy Smokes
But I think 1800s, 1700s, it was more likely you had a rival.
Pav
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, it was also like, if you don't like someone, you try to, like, kill them. So there was no, like, oh, honestly.
Tommy Smokes
It could be my. My old. My old landlord group. I'm fighting tooth and nail to get my security deposit back.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was a good one.
Tommy Smokes
And everything. I got.
Pav
I got a rival. Never mind.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, who's yours?
Pav
My super. Yeah, yeah, my current super.
Tommy Smokes
Great. Nothing but good.
Pav
Doesn't. Does not care for me. I don't know what I've done to the man.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You're like the dream tenant, by the way.
Pav
I'm literally. I've never bothered him in my life. Yeah. Like, I think I've sent him maybe two texts about alarms going off. That's it. Never bothered him. I've needed a situation for the last couple months. He does not like me. Like, we'll just outright tell me to off.
Tommy Smokes
I. I bothered my leg lady quite.
Pav
A bit, and I don't know what to do about it. Like, I'm like, okay, I guess I'll off.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
To me, that's also like, quite literally the gig if you're a landlord or a super or something. It's like, I'm paying you so much money in rent, you're just like, cashing these checks. The deal is that every now and then, you got to come fix my.
Tommy Smokes
Faucet or whatever it is I sent yesterday. So they hadn't responded, like, two weeks. And I said, can somebody at this company actually do their job for once? This is insane.
Pav
Yeah, that's a blood feud.
Tommy Smokes
But then, like, like, we'll, we'll. Like when. When we moved out, she sent us a text like, I'm gonna miss you guys. And I said, we're gonna miss you too.
Pav
Like, we know she's a good ride.
Tommy Smokes
I do have a potential opponent brewing with my. In my new apartment, my upstairs neighbor. They walk so loud, they just have heels on. And like 8am I'm waking up every day to them. Like, at night, they're walking loud and I don't know what to do.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, can't almost stop walking.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But like, take some shoes.
Tommy Smokes
Get some carpeting shoes off or something. But I. In my last apartment, I got a nice. A note from my downstairs neighbors. That was like, can you guys please stop stomping around? And in. In our defense, that was when we had a leak. And my idiot landlord, his. His fix to our, like, warped floors was to jump up and down on it for 10 minutes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So you were actually stopping and jumping, and I wasn't.
Tommy Smokes
So I responded.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
He was doing it.
Tommy Smokes
The super was. When I responded, I was like, hey, like, I'm sure that's a little annoying. You know what else is annoying? My bed is fucking flooded. My bedroom is flooded, and we're moving some furniture around because we're fucking underwater.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Deal with it, guys.
Tommy Smokes
And then they're responded back with a note. Like, they wrote a note. I wrote it on the back. They responded back with a phone number. And I was like, smoke.
Pav
Still got it. Like, girls giving me her number.
Tommy Smokes
I. I type in, it's our supers. It was like, I want to go tell the super. Not our problem.
Pav
That is a formidable opponent.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I would. I would be like, now I'm interested in you.
Pav
I.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's a good move. I feel like neighbors usually, you know, there's a high potential for blood feuds with neighbors.
Hank
I feel like, yeah, my downstairs neighbor, like, but I guess. I guess I'm loud.
Pav
But not.
Hank
Not but like, stomping.
Pav
Every night. My neighbors complain.
Hank
I don't ever have people over at.
Pav
My apartment, like, echoes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I'm never gonna even like the word.
Pav
Echo will just forever me.
Hank
I still can't believe they're like, it's that or the audio.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
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Pav
Yeah, there you go.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
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Hank
She like me walking, but I don't wear shoes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I do feel like you. You. You underestimate, like, walking is a loud thing. Like, you're like, what are you doing up there? And, like, just walking on, like, shitty floors and shitty apartments. Like, it's loud.
Pav
I guess I'm lucky.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Pav
The, like, my. I. I obviously don't.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You have, like, big ceilings and.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You're not, like, on top of it, you know?
Pav
Never had that problem. Even my old, old apartment. Not even the new one. My old apartment here. Never.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But whatever it may be. Like, I used to have the guy who parked in front of my house that just, like, I wanted to murder him. He took up, like, the only spot in front of my house. Things like that that only really pop up because you live close to each other.
Hank
But I feel like it's like, if you're annoyed by. No offense. If you're annoyed by walking, like, don't live in New York.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, that New York. New York City apartments are tough.
Tommy Smokes
It's not walking. It's the heat. It's the loud shoes. Like, I'm debating writing a note, but I don't know what to do. Or. I met my super lives. You know, you should do my. Or my landlord lives right across the hall from this person, so I might ask them. I think they might be older. They have, like, you know, one of the. The things Jewish people put on their doors.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
They have that. Like, because I. I went and looked and scouted out, so I feel like that means they're maybe older.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
What's it called? No, the little old Older.
Tommy Smokes
I don't know why. I just Feel like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, that doesn't seem like a young Jewish people thing. Yeah, yeah.
Tommy Smokes
So then, I don't know. That means they're gonna get more prickly if they're older. I, I got a lot to deal.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
With because they're older.
Pav
Get a lot of my plate because they're older.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. Okay, just checking.
Tommy Smokes
I think it was like, if it was like a 25 year old girl or something. I feel like she was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, it's 25 year old girl. You would just. She was blonde. You just her.
Pav
And then. Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
If she was as fine as a frog hair put four ways.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Here's what you should do. This is almost like when the moms get on the plane and they give out goodie bags and earplugs and send over a little. A pair of slippers. Like, I got you these for when you show up. You know, take your feet off, take your shoes off, put your feet up at night. You've worked hard.
Pav
Pretty nice gesture. Yeah, like, if it happened to me, I'd be like, that's fair.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean it would be, it would.
Tommy Smokes
It would come off passive aggressive.
Hank
It would also just come off like, weird.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, if you said like, and by the way, you know, you're walking is a little loud. I, I don't think I would, I don't know. I wouldn't then walk around stomping.
Pav
I at least. Dude, my, my friend was tell me the other day that they, they go to their friend's house, they're like, do you want sweatpants before you sit down?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's a hell of a. I, I know you don't like that, but that's a hell of a host right there.
Pav
See, I, I was like, I would be like, what?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No, yeah, I don't think I would. I don't think I would put on what sounds like a pair of communal sweatpants. But I love that gesture of like, you want to get comfortable? Let's get comfortable, bro. You want a blanket? I got pillows.
Pav
I got. But then I'd be like, I'd be like, no. And then I'd be sitting there like, do they not want me in these?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, right, right. Is it you thing?
Pav
Or maybe I'd be so uncomfortable.
Tommy Smokes
Well, there are definitely what it is. They don't want street clothes on the couch. Yeah.
Pav
You think that's it?
Tommy Smokes
What else would it possibly be?
Pav
I thought it was just like, hey, we're gonna.
Tommy Smokes
I think it's like, I don't want your street clothes on my Furniture.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Are you. What do you do when you get home at night? What do you do?
Tommy Smokes
I don't go into bed in street clothes. I'll sit on my couch.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But when you get home, like, you walk in the door, take off.
Tommy Smokes
I take off my. My clothes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
What do you put on?
Tommy Smokes
I put on a pair of shorts and, like, a lounge T shirt.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, like no khaki shorts or like, basketball shorts.
Tommy Smokes
Basketball.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So. So you. Yeah. So you're a shorts guy, but you would. You would change out of your jeans and get into sweatpants if you were a sweatpants guy?
Tommy Smokes
A thousand percent.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
Like, in the winter.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
These guys don't.
Tommy Smokes
In the winter, I've got into sweatpants.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. He doesn't.
Pav
I. I do when my day is over.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Over.
Pav
But that's not usually when I get.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Home from work, right to me, like, my. There'll be a pile of clothes next to my front door. I'm like, in and out, like. Yeah, yeah. And if I. And if it's like, if I have, like, a weekend day that I know I'm not doing anything or whatever, like, I will change out of. I'll, like, take a shower, change out of, like, the sweatpants I was wearing. Put on new sweatpants. Wear that all day long.
Pav
Really?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. Like if. If you have, like a Saturday, let's say where. And you're. You're not going out. There's not even a prospect. You going out. You're tired, you've been run down. You're like, I'm having a day where I binge, like, whatever. You'll put on jeans.
Pav
Oh, God, no. Okay, but I won't shower.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I'll just go stay in the couch and then. But what. And what do you sleep in?
Pav
I guess in that case, it depends. I've been sleeping Winnie the Pooh lately. Love it.
Hank
I think.
Tommy Smokes
Shirt.
Pav
No shirt, no pants.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Nothing on the bottom.
Pav
Nothing on the bottom. Them. Lunacy.
Tommy Smokes
I hope you don't have white sheets.
Pav
I do have white sheets, and they're covered in chocolate. Don't. In my bed still. No. You. That was very funny. That was very funny. I got white sheets, bro. I just want to wipe my ass. That. That was super duper funny, but valid point. Yeah. Come on.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And one person you might have to.
Pav
Worry about that with. I've only the bed one time ever. I just told the story the other day.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I'm not saying you're a bed, but. But I'm saying if there was ever a person where you have to, like, discuss whether the sheets are clean and all that. It's.
Pav
Come on, it's, it, but it's food related. Which I guess then turns into.
Tommy Smokes
They're just brown stains right by your ass.
Pav
Don't. My bed is very funny. Very good. The only time I ever to bed was like, it wasn't like a turd or anything like that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yes, I was about to ask that.
Pav
Was it like, like, just like a. No, it was just, it was just a little stain. I piped down the. I, I was in Amsterdam and I got food poisoning, I think. And I was sharing a room with my brother and I woke up.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Oh, that's recent.
Pav
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was in.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was after Bert.
Pav
Full on adult. Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And it was a. You in your brother's bed?
Pav
What do you mean?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You just said you were sharing a bed.
Pav
No sharing room. We all shared a bed.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's really.
Pav
No, no sharing a room. And I woke up the next morning. I woke up in the morning, I was like, oh, boy. Like, I know what that is. Like, we, I've been sick all night.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, how much are we?
Pav
Like, not, not while you were asleep.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You.
Pav
Yeah, I think it was just like, I was, I was sick. I had food poisoning. I was sick. I think, I think at some point some stuff just came out.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You just leaked.
Pav
But, like, what do you do in a hotel? So my brother woke up and the bed was stripped and he was like, what the heck? Yeah, there's no excuse for that. Like, I just stripped the bed.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, but with him, you could be like, I slept with peanut butter cups again.
Pav
For the 50 million that could have.
Hank
Left, use your, like, soda trick that you did. But then with the peanut butter, throw.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Your peanut butter cups in and be like, oh, yeah, yeah, they melted.
Pav
I, I, I didn't even think about that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You've been training for this moment your whole life.
Pav
And then you had your chance and you blew it. I think that's one of the, like, I don't, don't.
Tommy Smokes
Oh, my brother might have given it away.
Pav
I don't know if he even knows that about me that I eat. That's like something KFC radio listeners know. Like, man, I don't really tell my brother. I'm like, listen, your brother knows you well. Woke up with food again today.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
If you, your brother knows you well enough that if you said, oh, I slept with my peanut butter cups, he would go, that checks out.
Pav
Yeah, he wouldn't be that surprised. Trust me. But I just didn't know what to do. I can't call the front desk and Whatnot. So I just had to strip the bed and just leave them in a pile. They probably know what.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
What that means.
Pav
I had to. If I had to.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, I mean, you know, or you faced this before, where you wrote a note and said, not.
Pav
Not blood when it actually was to be, to defend myself in that time. I was still drunk when I did that one. This one was a more sober move.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It was. It was. He left chocolate in the bed. And then what was the red stuff?
Pav
I had had sex with a woman who was on her period.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right, Right.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah.
Pav
I. I had sex with a woman who had. In the middle. I have no idea who this person is. I never saw her again.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
She's the one that called you daddy?
Pav
No, different girl. I know that girl.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
The first girl ever do it.
Pav
Yeah. In the history of the world. But the. So I. I was at the Hyatt, I think, in the one right on Boylston in Boston, and I woke up, and it was literally like Godfather, where I could, like, I lifted the sheet and I was just like, what the is happening? Like, she had had a period. Like, it was. It was a lot. You did your big one, girl. But I. I felt that when she left at whatever time that was in the morning. And so I stirred and I woke up, and I was like, Jesus Christ. And again, still drunk. So I was like, I'm going. I'm just gonna go to the other bed. And I got, like, a Snickers bar out of the mini bar and ate that in bed and fell asleep, and I'd fall. I rolled on top of it. So I had a bunch of chocolate and a bunch of blood on me and was like, what?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I thought the note was. Not, not blood, but it was.
Pav
It was blood. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it was. It was. It was blood.
Tommy Smokes
Not. It was sloped off.
Pav
Uterine wall, baby.
Hank
It's kind of like, skinny of you to, like. If I was eating a Snickers bar, I'm staying awake the whole time. I'm not like. Like the fact I eat the whole thing. Yeah. I mean, the whole damn thing, start to finish.
Pav
What is that?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, that's like. I don't know. It sounds like whatever, girls. Like, that's so skinny.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Anyway, I don't even know where we're at.
Pav
Where. Like, how do we get bed.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
The bed. Oh, neighbors. It was neighbors and bed supers. It was all that talk.
Hank
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
In the bed.
Tommy Smokes
A girl that had a period in your bed.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I, I. I would say at one point, McGillicuddy was my rival. Until he came in here and it was such a bad performance that I put that one to bed.
Pav
Dude. What Was I just watching a Boston thing. I don't know.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Patrick was.
Pav
But the. The cop. The cop was a Boston cop. What was I just watching? It's a Boston centric movie or something.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Joke.
Guest or Producer
Aaron Reed.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
No, the town.
Pav
No, but I did watch that this week, but whatever. But the officer was named Officer McGillicuddy, and of course it was so. Oh, was it Happy Gilmore?
Tommy Smokes
No, I haven't seen Happy Gilmore, but I did just watch. Is it Wind river or.
Pav
No. What's. No, it was like a comedy. It was, like, light hearted because they were busting his balls about, like, being from Boston and like, parades.
Tommy Smokes
I think the heat there.
Pav
There was. No, no, it's a re. It was a recent thing, I feel like, like. And I was. I was like, that feels like a reference to Patrick McCale.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. I mean, if it was made like, after all that.
Pav
No, I think it was. I think it was recent.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I really wouldn't feel like that got legs enough that. That was on, like, CNN and like, that officer. But when he came in here and was so not.
Hank
It was fun.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was like the worst moment of my career because it also was like, I. I would have done that rivalry till we were dead. You know what I mean? That would have been fun forever. And I was like, like, well, we're never doing this again.
Tommy Smokes
It says McGillicuddy reference in Garfield movie. No. This is gonna drive me nuts.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
Because I feel like I watched something recently with that as well.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But that was my. I mean, I've had a million, like, Internet beefs over the years, but they all kind of come and go. Like, none that have really stuck that long. But, you know, there's always been Jamie o' Grady's and.
Hank
That'S kind of pretty sure. Of all people, you don't really have an op.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, I think I just had somebody, Deke Zucker, once put together a list of, like, everybody I feuded with. And it's. It's an extensive list, but I don't know if I would ever. At the time, they all felt like I just didn't really, like, totally McGillicuddy. I, like, beat a dead horse. But a lot of those just kind of came and went.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
The amount of people who still send me Lena Dunham stuff is crazy.
Pav
Really. Like, to this day, you imagine her, like, 10 years.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. I mean, I like, there's nothing so.
Tommy Smokes
Bag of milk.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. I. I popularized the phrase I did not create that phrase. That was Jesus nice from Jesus Andro. He called Lena Dunham, said she looks like a bag of milk. And then I said that a bunch. But that was also like when she was like, like, that's. I don't know. I've matured. I'm not just going to like rag on somebody. Like, it was like, you're obnoxious and annoying and like fingers. All that crazy stuff. It was more like. And then, yeah, putting rocks. I think she put rocks just as a little weird. Weird. And at that point, you know, it also was. At that point it was also like, you know, scumbag blogging. So it was like there was just like talking like that. But now it's. I'm not just gonna be like, look at this person. Not looking good.
Pav
But.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But people want me to like all the time. Like every time she pops out, they send me stuff and I'm just like, I'm all set on that.
Pav
I actually heard her new show's good. I haven't seen it. I've actually never seen any of her. I've never seen Girls. I've never seen any of your stuff.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. What is her new show?
Pav
It's something British. It takes place London. It's like too much. I think it's called too much.
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Tommy Smokes
Speaking of creating phrases, you said bag of milk. I've been wanting to get this out there. I'm not sure I'm gonna say. There's a 22% chance that I created or popularized the phrase. It's like watching Picasso paint.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Are you out of your fucking mind?
Pav
I think there's a chance. Chance.
Tommy Smokes
I think there's a chance.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Are you.
Tommy Smokes
I swear to God, I thought you.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Were going to say something that was like somewhat feasible. Like, I'm watching that caso paint. That's like the most common. Yeah, like way to describe. Like, I'm watching you do something really good.
Hank
We'll give your argument.
Tommy Smokes
I just remember using it a lot in like college and early Bar stool and one Day I looked on advanced Twitter search. I went back to find how often people were saying it and until there was a video of me, I think during the college football show at Michigan.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And this is one of the more delusional people weren't.
Tommy Smokes
Hey, listen, I said to 22% chance and maybe just popularized pull it. Can we get an advice?
Guest or Producer
You looked at the Google search trend. Like, you know how you can use like Google? No, you should probably look at that.
Pav
I'm. I'm checking this out right now.
Tommy Smokes
I, I looked at it one time and it was like very not used.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I feel like that's in like, I feel like the reason why you were using it as a kid in college is because it was just a very common phrase. I mean this, I've always said, by the way, this, these are great like little gimmicks to run because you can't prove these things again.
Tommy Smokes
And I'm not, I'm not claiming it. I think there's a chance.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I know there's like literally a zero percent chance. 22 Also, you can't, we can't like prove or disprove this. So like it's a good little game to run. You have to make it way more believable than that.
Hank
No, I'm just saying less niche. Like if it was a, a 1.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Below less niche or like an Internet phrase that's like, you know, modern. And somebody was like, oh, that did start like on like. Well, I did Internet and tick tock.
Pav
Errors or remember way back when I just started saying I invented no filter. Yes, yes. It was like hashtag no filters on Instagram.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I thought you were about to say Saturdays. But that would be like, like if somebody maybe still a little too recent but like maybe down the road if someone was like, I invent I popular so it for the boys, people would.
Pav
Be like, yeah, no, but that's easy to.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I guess you could just. Yeah, you could, you could search that and find it. But like a lot of these phrases.
Pav
Are like, you know, at least at the time. However, what my mentions were like, people really believe that it was me. I was like, yeah, that was me. I did. No reason to ever think that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Let's see. Tom Russell's usage in 2012 appears to be the this is chat. GBT appears to be the earliest traceable public instance. So he said. Tom Russell on Bob Dylan. In a 2012 interview, singer songwriter Tom Russell vividly described Bob Dylan's live performance. I think Dylan's a great singer. It's like watching Picasso paint It comes out different fragmented, soulful lines that are always chasing. It alters the way you hear the song.
Tommy Smokes
I think that actually helps my argument. Oh, first public is 2012. There's a chance that I really brought it to the people in 2018.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I've never even heard you say like, like, let's. I've never heard Tommy say, am I.
Guest or Producer
Nuts for like lowkey being like, yes, yes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You're both idiots.
Tommy Smokes
Like, see, are you going to say.
Pav
What I think you're.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I will say that you think I'm insane. What helps your cause is like the other examples are like Makai Beckton said this about Aaron Rodgers.
Guest or Producer
First I was like, you're insane. Then I googled it and I was like, this isn't honestly even that common of a phrase because I've heard people say, like, watching Da Vinci paint the Mona Lisa a lot.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
A lot.
Tommy Smokes
No, I'm a very bar like people at barstool use it a lot.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
This is crazy talk.
Pav
I don't even. I didn't know that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Do they?
Guest or Producer
Yeah, once at the beach this weekend.
Hank
And that's why I think people at barstool say it a lot because it's.
Tommy Smokes
A common that I may have created also.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That feels like a pretty definitive. Like this guy in 2012 said it the most.
Tommy Smokes
I mean, listen, it's not the. I'm not the first person to say those words together, but I could have popular polarized.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I thought he was gonna say something that like I've heard Tommy. Like. Like if you said I invented. That's my two cents.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
@ least that's a thing you've done. That would be silly.
Pav
That would be ridiculous.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I don't think of Tommy and be like, oh, he's the guy who says the Picasso a lot.
Tommy Smokes
Again, I'm not even saying I say it a lot. I think there I. I looked it up on Twitter once. I. I think I. I said it a couple times. Like 2018. It got in the lexicon and it spread.
Pav
This is one of the thing with Tommy is. Is like confidence. I. Yeah, I don't know. I. I don't have any evidence.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
This is how the world works. Like, this is how you get ahead in life is just by saying things and saying them confidently.
Tommy Smokes
22% chance I'm not claiming.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I think there's a chance I get this. A lot of people are watching the beach house are like, how does Tommy smoke? How does Nikki girls. How do girls like Tommy? And it's like, this is tail as old as time.
Pav
But also It's, It's.
Tommy Smokes
Yeah.
Pav
Tommy and Nick are normal looking men. Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But I also like.
Pav
You're just normal looking people. All kinds of people have sex.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But I, I also like. I don't know, it's like Tommy's. I can understand where some people are like, I can't believe Tommy's like a gaggle of blondes. You know what I mean? But it's like, yeah. I don't know. Girls. Guys who are funny, like. And Nikki's like, yeah. Guys who are like kind of rude to you but then make you like laugh and smile. And then you also kind of learn deep down he's a nice guy. Like, that's every guy who's ever. Girls is like that guy.
Pav
But it's also just like, I'm a man.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. They're not. They're not like women want to.
Pav
Ugly straight women at least. So we have sex with each other. That's how society has prevailed for thousands of years. It's just like, how is that regular person having sex?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It's what we do as a society. It's like every motivation, everything you do is to eventually have sex. You know, it's like Chappelle's skit of like, you know, I don't, I don't care that I drive a fast car, but girls like fast cars and I want to fuck those girls, so I get a fast car.
Tommy Smokes
I'm adding that to my bio. Not grotesquely ugly.
Pav
Did I say that?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I said twice in 2018.
Owen
You said like washing Costa paint once.
Guest or Producer
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You've never even said this phrase.
Tommy Smokes
Okay, I said it once in 2018. Let's look up the you like before that from anyone just on Twitter. Let's see how often it was used.
Guest or Producer
All right, I take back anything I said. This tweet has 400 likes that.
Tommy Smokes
Listen, I just think it caught on. Other people at bar still started using what's crazy replies.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
This is also how. What date is that on? 28.
Guest or Producer
October 12th.
Tommy Smokes
That's exactly where I thought we were right? In Michigan. Michigan, Wisconsin game. Right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
And so let's look up before October 12, 2018 from anybody on Twitter, how often like watching Picasso paint it was used.
Pav
This it like what we're finding out right now.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
If.
Tommy Smokes
If it's like not used at all, I think that's points to me. Seriously.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
This is why this what we were talking about earlier about like, as long as you're happy, you're going to like do it. You know what I mean?
Pav
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It like Tommy believes This. So it's George. It's like, it's not a lie if you believe you're George Castanza.
Hank
The opposite of whatever Meek Phil has. Cuz Meek Phil thinks everything's like an insult. But you have.
Pav
Have.
Hank
Maybe that's why you're such a good combo. Because everything you twist to be a.
Tommy Smokes
Compliment or I am good at that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It is endless and infinite supply of irrational confidence.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Tom Scabelli. That's really what it comes down to. Kevin Garnett said it in 2013, bro.
Tommy Smokes
So many people have said it. I don't know what's the usage on Twitter before 2018, bro, these are.
Guest or Producer
It's like software doesn't exist that you're looking.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Also, it's like it's such a common phrase that I don't even think it's like. Like, I don't know. People use it all.
Tommy Smokes
I think I popularized.
Hank
Do you ever think about trying to start a new Saturdays for the boys because you now have the juice or you know how to. How to make it a phrase, but this time you like, let me just jump in.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
He'll never do that again.
Pav
Never. But like, if I didn't do anything, it's a good phrase.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But if I told you, like, if you said something right now in the pod that ripped and I was like, we gotta make this a thing, you'd be like, no way.
Pav
I would agree with that. Yeah, I. But like, that's also. That's not because of me. That's all just like the. That's not how soci.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, it was the perfect time for.
Pav
Like the Internet was into that kind of stuff. Like, I. I don't think they'd be into it nowadays. Like.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, that's not true though, because it's like, you know, like unwell was like a smash for. For.
Pav
I was gonna say unwell, but that. That was like.
Tommy Smokes
Right.
Pav
That was zillion beers, right?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Unwell.
Pav
She's still here.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Unwell. What's your point? That it was that it was like.
Pav
When she made that phrase and when they made that sweatshirt. That was 10 years ago.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, yeah.
Tommy Smokes
That was all. They were still personal.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. But I. Okay, but I. I just say. I just think in general, like, if. If you were to. I think. I think there's still catchphrases and things that, like, for sure.
Pav
You know, back then it was. And Saturday Boys might have been one of the early ones, but back then, like, definitely was. It was like no one. And by we, I mean like content creators as a whole. Were just all desperately searching for. Yeah. A phrase we could put on. No, that's what I'm saying. That was the first one. But then we went through, like, 10 years of everyone, and now no one really wants to.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You also, you just can't force those things. Like, I think it still could happen. It would just have to be super, super gen. Like, real and genuine and. What's the word? Natural.
Pav
Yes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, I think because people suss out, like, okay, you're trying to make this thing, and it's annoying if it just became a thing. Thing.
Pav
Right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know, it's a little bit like when I. When I did the. Like, I never intended on making a martini. It was just the three bean gang, which is the thing I was doing. And then 10, whatever, years later, it became a thing. But if that was like, right away, I'm trying to make it, here's my product and say this and buy this. People like, you know, did beach house.
Hank
Start totaled or was that or anything?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I've never heard that.
Guest or Producer
Nick started it.
Tommy Smokes
People have said it, but not smoke.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Saying that he totaled the girl is my new favorite thing. He was like, yeah, I cracked her. I. Her. I totaled her.
Pav
I was like, total. There's great. It's so.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I mean, it made me, like, gasp. I was like, I think I'm offended for the first time in my life. You totaled her too much. I've been telling Jackie I. I've been using. I mean, every time I text Jackie, I say the word totals. I told her, I was like, that if. If she picked the right spot at the right moment and said that she totaled Danny, last night would have brought the house down.
Hank
He's like, I can't laugh at that yet.
Pav
It was.
Hank
I thought the total was funny until I was on the other end of it.
Pav
This doesn't feel that good.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So wait, what doesn't?
Pav
Joke.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No, no. Clip that.
Tommy Smokes
Here's a question. Where do you and Danny stand going into this weekend? Is it like, we're just going to keep hooking up every night or.
Hank
Well, here's the thing. Is, like, I'm never hooking up in that house ever again.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That sucks for Danny.
Pav
He's like, that's the only time I'm getting it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I. I don't know.
Hank
I mean, then we're like, texting and, like, I think his.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
His new bit, by the way, is very funny with the texting. Have you seen that?
Pav
No. Yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
He does a screen recording of him replying to, like, his mom or his dad. So his dad Texted him recently, hey, mom said like the beach is going good. I saw a clip that he got over 2 million views. And then he proceeds to write. You see him type out like a whole paragraph of like in depth describing what's going on with Nikki and Jackie in the show. And then he deletes it all and just says like, haha, cool. That's his mom and his dad. It's very good. It's very funny.
Pav
That is how like I was talking to my dad last night. He was exactly that. He's like, so you excited? I was like, it's good. Yeah, I know.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Well, speaking as a dad, like I would love, I'm sure Danny's dad would have loved for him to just send that actual text. Yeah, like let's actually talk about this.
Pav
Like I don't want the.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Okay. Haha.
Pav
You know, I was cool today. Good.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. I mean I, I was FaceTime with Keegan. They're down at the beach right now and I was FaceTime with the other day and like we were talking like two seconds. I told him I would buy him some Robux and then as soon as I bought them he's like, okay, bye. Great. Love you too.
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Kevin Clancy (KFC)
How about this? How about. Why do you guys have to all go to the same place at the same time? You guys haven't split up like at all.
Tommy Smokes
I think there might be plans for that.
Pav
Okay.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Because I was like, plans like they're making you or just plans like, like I just thought it would be like we're going to the beach, you're going to the bar, and then you all have a cameraman that follows.
Pav
You thought about that?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like you're all in the same place place always. I just feel like naturally it might be time to be like that.
Tommy Smokes
You'll probably get more drama if everybody is together because there's just.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I don't know.
Guest or Producer
I think that's why they're splitting us up.
Tommy Smokes
I do think that like, yeah, we might split up at some point this weekend.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, like Nobody could be, like, enough.
Tommy Smokes
To worry about the other person being at the bar or whatever.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's what I mean. It's also like, you could be like, oh, my God, Tommy, that guy sucks. And now I can say it because he's not around, right? Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
I hope no one would be saying.
Hank
Are the Chicago go people flying back with social people?
Tommy Smokes
What do you mean?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, our carbon footprint on this one's crazy. We got, like, a Taylor Swift jet situation going on. We're going to be tracking our planes, being like, we, you know, contributed to the global warming.
Hank
Like, I wonder because, like, there's not really a second for me to even, like, talk on anyone because there's social people around all the time. We travel back with social people. Like, yeah, it's everything. But then Chicago.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Oh, so you're saying, like, get the cast together, but without cameras.
Hank
If the cast is together, if they're all together hanging out in the airport, like, they're probably. Probably.
Guest or Producer
Well, if all the social people are going out tomorrow night and it's you, me and Tommy in the house chilling, you can talk some.
Hank
Probably.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know what I like too, is it's like the only thing at Barstool that's not like Chicago versus New York. It seems like you guys are all just kind of like. It's not like the Chicago people are, like, awesome about the New York people.
Tommy Smokes
It's like, I haven't even been thinking of it while we're there.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right? Yeah. I mean, they're. There's Chicago people having sex with New York people.
Pav
It's crazy.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Totals and echoes.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
So I guess people should know. Like, I think we officially don't start filming till Friday morning because they're Chicago people are coming back from Camp Barstool and they don't get until like, 2am Thursday.
Hank
So why don't we do Camp Barstool?
Pav
Like, do one?
Hank
Yeah, like one.
Pav
You want. You want to take the reins on it. I'm happy to go place.
Hank
But then we do this every single time. We're gonna go to Europe and then you go, okay, you take the reins.
Guest or Producer
And then when I was like, a listener of KFC radio, I was so excited for you guys to go skiing and you never did it. And I was, like, pissed.
Hank
That was a miscommunication.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That was also my fault.
Pav
Also got a house again this year. So can we.
Hank
Can we go?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, I'm not going to go skiing, but I'll go to the house.
Tommy Smokes
You don't have to go ski. I'll snow tube.
Pav
Yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I'll do some like that. I'm not skiing. I probably won't even snow tube.
Pav
We got. We got another year.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
We can do it again. Hot tub.
Hank
Well, this was supposed to be my year of, like, living in.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Living in circumstances in. Get all the jokes out.
Pav
I mean, that's what this podcast is getting. Tell Jackie.
Hank
I was not ready to laugh episode. If you could tell.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, no, that was. Was like, we'll keep this one pushing. Are you ready now, though?
Pav
Because I got. Let me check my notes here.
Tommy Smokes
Pull up the nose gets out his.
Pav
Book just like yours.
Tommy Smokes
Got a tight 20.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No, you're definitively not a. Nobody's really slutting it up.
Pav
Are you the only person who's had sex or obviously you died with somebody.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Nobody cares.
Pav
Oh, yeah.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Hank
Where the was his audio or text?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I said, I. I don't know if you realize there's. There's a double standard when it comes to men.
Pav
That's Tommy's pickup line. He's like, quiet. This will be like a church mouse.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No one's ever gonna know. You can lie to your friends. Don't worry.
Hank
It is so weird to, like, walk in the office after and just be like, wow. Like, everybody knows.
Tommy Smokes
I.
Pav
It's cool, it's cool, it's cool.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I, I, I meant to bring this up last episode, but I don't think we got around to it. The. It's a weird thing to have, like, your, your value. Like, Tommy, Nikki smokes like or not. Like, determines whether or not people like him or think he's cool. And they're waiting for it. He's trying to make it happen. That is a weird dynamic. That would be, like, my nightmare.
Hank
Did you see that? Like, Dave said he was like, yeah, I don't think that, like, Nikki apologized, being like, I didn't really bring it. I was supposed to stir the pot. I didn't really stir the pot this past weekend. And then Dave said something like, yeah, like, he didn't really stir the pot. Whatever. I feel like he's gonna come this weekend with like, a. Oh, if Dave.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Said that directly, you better be that pot's gonna be.
Tommy Smokes
He does every night, Nick. He smokes around 6pm just starts going like this. He goes, it's war mode tonight.
Pav
Yeah, we're going to war.
Hank
And then he has, like, a cigarette and he's like, on his phone and he's, like, sulking.
Tommy Smokes
He's quite a character.
Hank
I get that last weekend was boring, but, like, I almost had a sex tape come out.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
The boring Thing is, like, not that.
Hank
It was boring, but just like, no.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, you give it a little bit, and they just want more and more rather than just being like, I don't know, this. There's this couple. There's this couple. There's fighting. There's this crazy guy stealing things. Ella's dancing. Tommy's got blondes, Dante's. Old Meek, Phil's.
Tommy Smokes
You can't force. There's a lot going on.
Pav
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
Like, it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah.
Tommy Smokes
The best, obviously, is real drama, then it's no drama drama, then it's forced drama.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right. I don't.
Tommy Smokes
I don't want people this weekend to come in and be like, we gotta script a fight or something. Like, I think people get drunk. Things will naturally happen. But, like, even the real Jersey Shore, it's not like every episode, they had to blow up right there. Episodes that were just like. I don't know, just kind of funny or whatever happened.
Pav
Obviously, four fights the whole show. We just talk about those four fights.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right, Right, right. We had.
Tommy Smokes
We had an R word accusation on night one, and it's gonna be hard to top that.
Hank
We had already night one and night.
Tommy Smokes
Two, there was two accusations.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
But then.
Hank
And the one before we got beat, the allegations, for the life of us.
Pav
We started throwing on rape. Pretty. Pretty willingly.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Raping Nazis just tossed out there these days. All right, let's wrap up. I do want to give a shout out to. Oh, yeah, Laura, who drew this picture.
Pav
Oh, God, probably.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I don't know. Probably the best drawing I've ever seen anybody do of a barstool personality or anything like that.
Pav
Una didn't even smile as soon as I. So, so.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So Laura is, like, a longtime listener of ours. She reached out and.
Guest or Producer
And how long. Exactly how many?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
She say pretty long time. She. How long have you actually, like, been listening?
Guest or Producer
Probably four and a half or five years.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
She's probably, like, right around there, at least. I think.
Pav
This is incredible. Like, that's like, my face.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's like, my face. That is, I think, pencil or charcoal. I. I asked her. I don't know. She answered me.
Pav
My guess is charcoal.
Tommy Smokes
Like, detail on the midnight bean bottle is, like, crazy.
Pav
And bean bottle and mascots.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
What's that?
Pav
Bean bottle and mascots?
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. Was it in there? I already posted that show. I must have missed that. Thank you.
Tommy Smokes
Easter eggs.
Pav
There's a.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like, this is from a picture, and if you put it side by side, it's like, this is identical. And I think she does all sorts of other drawings. Let me get her. I told her I was like, you should like draw and sell these things or do like little art projects because this is, her name's Laura Sweeney. She is on Instagram. Laura wean L O R A W E E N She's, she's the girl in the wheelchair.
Pav
Yes. Arizona.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where we're at, our live show. Yeah, yeah. I think when, when we were on with Gillis, I was like, I think this is the hottest girl ever in a wheelchair and clearly talented as well. So thank you for this picture. And I think she'll do, do all. So I, I, these are the things I was like, you should just commission, you know, get draw for people and whatever. So go to check out her page and I think if you want anything drawn, she'll, she'll try to do it for you. So what are you going to do with. Oh wait, I think it's a little weird because it's just like me, you know what I mean? It's like, I don't want to like frame this and be like, look at this awesome picture of me me. But I don't know, throw it up in the studio or something. Yeah, it's, it's also the fact that it is Midnight Bean is cool because it's like, then I can, I have a connection to it, you know.
Pav
So one more thing before we go.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Thank you, Laura.
Pav
Wait. Yeah, I interrupted that, Sorry.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
No, it's all good. I just, you know, go to go check out her page. She does good art and I think if you want to draw something, she'll do it for you.
Tommy Smokes
And it's like watching Picasso paint.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like watching Laura Sweeney paint.
Pav
I have anything.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Okay, cool. All right, so beach house this weekend starts on Friday instead of the usual Thursday. Are you going to do Sunday again or is it.
Tommy Smokes
No, you know, we come back Sunday.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. Okay, cool. And if you have not checked out mascots yet, go check out episode one. People were asking me, what's the, the schedule? Every Tuesday, 8 o'. Clock. It's a week to week. None of this new fangled bin. You're going to watch it week to week. You're going to talk about. You're going to find your Easter eggs grow with the show.
Pav
The we have long been week to week people.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Oh yeah.
Pav
And I've said, and I think it's obvious, but like, you can't build a following that way. All that stuff we're gonna find out if we're right.
Tommy Smokes
Well, I think specifically for barstool so much is like making sure your content stays in the conversation.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Right. And like comes and goes.
Tommy Smokes
If you, if you dropped it all, if we dropped it all last night or next week, like within a week or two would be like, oh, football.
Pav
Season started or whatever.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And also there's such a, like when you binge, I think you miss like good episodes.
Pav
Yes.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Like when, when you know that episode of the Last of Us came out, we like talked about that one. That was just like if we watched the before and the after and then two hours later you'd be like, oh, which episode was that was. Oh, like they all blend together, you know, and there's, that doesn't leave a time. It's a little different with comedies. I, I, I also think when this is fully out out binging a half hour comedy, you can watch all 10 episodes in a night. Basically, if you wanted to, like there's value in that. But, but week to week just to like build it and get the hype and you have a day and a time that's yours and all that is the way. Yeah, for sure.
Pav
I, I hope so. I think.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
And then also you can do the binge like you, you can't do week to week if you release it as a binge. You can do week to week and then have a binge when the season's over. So you get both events.
Pav
Right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
You know.
Pav
Right.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
In a matter of a couple months you'll have all the ability to binge it.
Hank
I wonder if Cuz you know how like it's like the, the I'm not going to be able to phrase this, but you probably grow like more of an attachment to it because it's like the start and stop. It's like, oh, that's why girls like guys who like give them something and give them nothing. Give them a little bit or whatever.
Tommy Smokes
So I always leave them.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
We're negging the audience, like edging them.
Tommy Smokes
We're flirting with.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I thought for sure you were going to try to work in a phrase there.
Hank
No, I actually, but I did think it's just not fun anymore because you get so stressed out trying to work in the.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Do you want to try it? Do you want to just say it?
Pav
The thing is, I actually had the easiest one. I just forgot it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
What was it?
Pav
It's like, like fighting in a phone booth. Which is why I tried to bring up the fight in the Central in Times Square earlier.
Guest or Producer
Wait, fighting in a phone booth was in there?
Tommy Smokes
I would have never even batted an eye at that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah, that's a real.
Guest or Producer
I don't even remember writing that.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I think I invented that phrase. That's not it.
Pav
No, let me read it, because if.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
It'S not even close, that's ridiculous. Ridiculous. It's somewhat similar, but not really. Not enough room to swing a cat.
Pav
What?
Tommy Smokes
Now that I would have maybe raised.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That's.
Pav
I didn't come up.
Guest or Producer
That's a real phrase.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
That would be so funny if you were like, I. I did it. I got you guys. Not even close. Not even close. What was your phrase?
Pav
If I was gonna say something, it was gonna be about a phone booth.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
So imagine he's like, I got a.
Pav
Cat in a foam booth. I'm fighting.
Hank
Mine was, like, kind of like. Like, I. It was kind of uncomfortable to say. It was like, it's not my dog, but I'll bark if you want me to.
Pav
That.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
See, that feels like mouth trousers to me, too.
Pav
Okay.
Hank
Like, it's just going to be layups.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
I'm doing here next week.
Guest or Producer
These are all ridiculous.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Yeah. Yeah. The best ones are, like, you know, hard but possible. So should.
Hank
Should we. Do we have any, like, deaths?
Guest or Producer
What you do you mean of silence?
Hank
Moment of silence. Yeah, moment of silence. Let's just end it.
Kevin Clancy (KFC)
Sa.
Date: August 21, 2025
Hosts: Kevin Clancy (KFC), Feitelberg, Tommy Smokes, Pav, Owen
Podcast: KFC Radio, Barstool Sports
This episode dives deep into two main events in Barstool world: the triumphant premiere of "Les Mascots"—a highly anticipated scripted YouTube series created by Barstool personalities—and predictions/discussion for the ongoing "Beach House Week." The roundtable features the creative crew behind "Les Mascots" unpacking their emotions after release day, reflecting on production hurdles, audience response, and speculating on what's next. The latter segment transitions to Beach House antics and future drama speculation. Throughout, the tone is classic KFC Radio: self-deprecating, raw, witty, and brimming with inside jokes and authentic camaraderie.
Timestamps: 02:15–43:30
Validation & Relief:
After a year of writing, filming, editing, and relentless effort, the cast expresses immense relief at the show’s positive reception and strong engagement.
Hype & Support:
The Barstool ecosystem rallied behind the show, with countless coworkers and fans shouting it out on social and leaving engaged comments:
YouTube Metrics and Strategy:
The crew geeks out over YouTube analytics—watch time, retention rate (~12 min average on a 24-min episode), and click-through rates (10%+).
Comments vs. ‘Post & Ghost’:
The team talks about their evolved promotion strategy and a healthier relationship with feedback.
Rollout Lessons:
They discuss avoiding “too much, too soon” hype and letting the work breathe—a deliberate decision compared to other failed launches.
YouTube and Barstool's Unique Audience:
Deep analysis of how Barstool’s audience interacts on YouTube versus other platforms, and why initial external push is essential for algorithmic success.
Timestamps: 09:03–43:00
ADR & Audio Struggles:
Shooting in NYC (Times Square) with basic tech forced the team to use ADR (audio dubbing) for segments—something they all hated.
DIY Ethos:
Despite lacking Netflix-level resources, the cast is proud their product matches up, and audience expectations for “polish” must be balanced with reality:
Longform vs. Shortform Philosophy:
The team debates industry advice about attention spans and content length.
Timestamps: 35:40–43:30
Character Evolution:
Open conversation on how performances matured after the pilot, going from nerves to true character embodiment.
Comparisons to ‘It’s Always Sunny’
The writing and performances intentionally mirror the layered, not-always-likable but deeply human characters of "Sunny":
Expecting Tears & Laughs:
The show intends to hit both comedic and emotional notes:
Team Vibe & Internal Validation:
Production felt like being back on a sports team, missing only post-victory celebrations.
Timestamps: 19:00–21:33
Turning Down ‘Streamers’:
The group reflects on the myth (and occasional truth) of turning down Netflix/Amazon, weighing financial upside versus cultural cachet.
Long-Term Artistic Payoff:
Timestamps: Throughout
Audience Approval vs. Doing It For Yourself:
Memorable Quote:
“Charlie, you’re not having fun doing it, why would any of us have fun watching?” — Pav, paraphrasing "It's Always Sunny" (30:43)
The Rollercoaster of Releasing Work:
The morning after launch is “dream come true” yet anticlimactic:
Timestamps: 53:04–96:23
Previews & Rivalries:
Anticipation for the upcoming weekend centers on whether big personalities (Rico Bosco, Nadu) will show up at famed Jersey Shore locales like DJs, and the (possibly staged) drama that may unfold.
Beach House Social Dynamics:
The cast riffs on internal beef, who’s “pulling Latinas,” and pokes fun at their own attempts to conjure up reality show drama.
Real vs. Forced Drama:
The group agrees the best reality content happens organically, not by scripting conflict.
Inside Jokes & Quote Wars:
Tommy debates if he “invented” the phrase “like watching Picasso paint,” while the group mocks and fact-checks the origins of various viral Barstool catchphrases.
Timestamps: 61:00–76:00
NYC Apartment Grievances:
A classic KFC Radio tangent, the crew tells stories of feuding with landlords, supers, and noisy neighbors, blending wild exaggeration with relatable city hardship.
Hygiene and Bed Mishaps:
In one of the episode’s gut-busting sequences, Pav recounts stories of “Winnie the Pooh” sleeping, bed-staining (food and otherwise), and embarrassing hotel incidents:
On feedback and performance:
“Sometimes you forget there’s so many people out there who really are with you.” — KFC (39:15)
On creating content:
“When you’re just doing your world and doing it well, people want to be in it.” — KFC (33:21)
On internal Barstool culture:
“If you worked at another company, there’d be balloons and a surprise party. Here, it’s ‘what’s next?’” — KFC (42:34)
On Beach House hook-ups:
“It is so weird to walk in the office and just be like, wow, everyone knows.” — Hank (94:19)
The episode is a celebration of creative risk—both the high-wire act of launching Barstool’s first serialized, scripted show and the no-holds-barred energy of Barstool’s reality experiments. It’s both a “how the sausage gets made” behind-the-scenes of viral comedy and testament to the rare camaraderie and honesty Barstool’s best shows are known for.
If you want real talk on creativity, self-doubt, audience obsession, and why nobody at Barstool gets a group hug after a big win—this is the episode for you.
For fans and first-timers alike, this episode offers an unvarnished, laugh-out-loud, at times unexpectedly poignant window into Barstool's creative engine and the messy glory of Internet fame.