We React to the Tim Dillon CNN Interview - Full Episode

Summary

Podcast Summary: KFC Radio – "We React to the Tim Dillon CNN Interview - Full Episode"

Release Date: May 22, 2025
Hosts: KFC and Feitelberg
Podcast Platform: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube (Ad-free for Prime Members on Amazon Music)

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1. Introduction

In this episode of KFC Radio, hosted by KFC and Feitelberg from Barstool Sports, the duo delves into the recently released full interview of comedian Tim Dillon with CNN. The discussion navigates through the dynamics of media influence, the evolving landscape of podcasting versus traditional mainstream media, and the political leanings within the comedy world.

2. Overview of Tim Dillon's CNN Interview

Tim Dillon, known for his incisive humor and critical takes on media, participated in an interview with CNN that initially stirred controversy. The interview was withheld for several weeks, during which CNN released only a truncated 10-minute clip from the full 1-hour and 15-minute conversation. Dillon expressed his frustration over the selective editing, questioning the purpose of the full interview if only a snippet was intended for public consumption.

Notable Quote:
KFC (00:25): "Tim Dillon was kind of like, why would I even do that if you're gonna edit it down and only release 10 minutes and take things out of context."

3. Hosts' Reactions to the Interview

KFC and Feitelberg share their critiques of the interviewer, describing her approach as "insufferable" and overly tentative. They felt that the interviewer lacked the depth to engage in a meaningful debate, resulting in a superficial discourse that didn't do justice to Dillon's perspectives.

Notable Quote:
Feitelberg (01:22): "I think it's a normal interview. I think she's raising good points. I think he's raising good points."

4. Mainstream Media vs. New Media Influence

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the definition and influence of "establishment" within the media. The hosts explore how podcasting and platforms like Joe Rogan’s show are reshaping what is considered mainstream media. They argue that new media outlets have become powerful influencers, challenging traditional media's dominance.

Notable Quote:
KFC (03:40): "The right wing manosphere, Rogan sphere, right wing, whatever you want to call it, is like a movement that is occurring. So that's an establishment."

5. The Role of Comedians and Political Alignment

KFC and Feitelberg delve into the political inclinations of comedians, noting a historical trend of left-leaning humorists in industries like Hollywood. They discuss how social pressures, such as cancel culture, and business interests compel comedians to navigate their political expressions carefully, sometimes shifting their alignments to protect their careers.

Notable Quote:
Feitelberg (14:10): "Most of the famous comics are liberal people. So I, I get where they were arguing about the establishment there, but like it's also just, they're just picking what they think or what they want establishment to define."

6. Responsibility of Media Figures

The conversation extends to the responsibilities that come with being part of the establishment or having a significant influence through media platforms. The hosts debate whether figures like Joe Rogan should uphold journalistic standards, given their influential reach, contrasting it with traditional media's expectations.

Notable Quote:
Feitelberg (07:49): "If you are journalism in the media, I think you have the responsibility to do journalism."

7. Conclusion

KFC and Feitelberg wrap up their analysis by emphasizing the unavoidable rise of new media establishments and the necessity for all media outlets, irrespective of political leaning, to engage authentically rather than dismissing influential platforms. They advocate for a more balanced and transparent media environment where diverse voices can coexist without undue censorship or manipulation.

Notable Quote:
KFC (22:23): "You can't, like they don't. The right wing politics and the right. Right wing acts are like doing it and doing it well and it's working for everybody over there."

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Additional Segments

Jury Duty with Jackie:
Post-discussion on Tim Dillon's interview, the podcast features a candid segment with guest Jackie recounting her humorous and stressful experience serving on a jury. This part offers a lighter contrast to the earlier intense media critique, showcasing the podcast's blend of serious analysis and relatable personal stories.

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Note: Various advertisements are interspersed throughout the episode, promoting products like Truly Unruly Hard Seltzer, X Chair, and BetterHelp, but these have been excluded from the summary as per guidance to focus solely on content-rich segments.

Transcript

[KFC]

Hey, KFC Radio listeners. You can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. But it is interesting, I will say the one thing for sure is that like if you think that the podcast and the right wing manosphere, all that is really influential, then these other outlets and the other side should start doing it.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Foreign. It's another edition. It's the podcast. It's the podcast. You've been here for 15 years. You know what it is. Yeah. So Tim Dillon, they finally released cnn, finally released the full interview that he did with. I don't even know who the interviewer was. You know who it is. It was kind of a little note of controversy because he did the interview and they sat on it for like weeks to edit it and then put out like a 10 minute clip of like a 1 hour, 15 minute interview. And so it was kind of like, Tim Dillon was kind of like, why the would I even do that if you're gonna edit it down and only release 10 minutes and take things out of context. And then now they finally put the full interview out. I, I found that interviewer to be quite insufferable.

[Feitelberg]

I, I actually, so I've seen clips. I did not watch the full interview. I think it's a normal interview. I think she's raising good points. I think he's raising good points.

[KFC]

So I was gonna say that I found the way she like, like everything talked was very like, it's like, like really quiet and like, yeah, like just that, that's what I'm talking about.

[Feitelberg]

But like the interview itself, I, I, I, the clips I saw were like, obviously like Tim Dillon destroy cnn.

[KFC]

Which kind of proves what she's talking about.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, I, I thought it to be two people having an interesting conversation. I didn't watch the full thing, but the stuff I've seen is two people having a conversation.

[KFC]

I think she was a little, I think she's a good example. She did make some good points, but I also think there was a lot of points that were like, this is extremely surface level, stereotypical things that like people do say about the comedy world. But if you do like an ounce of research or in take any interest in it at all, you realize like it's not true. When he rattled off, he's like this person, this person, this person, this person, all sell out arenas. And she was like, oh, they do. And I was like, yeah, well that.

[Feitelberg]

That'S like the common man, I guess their misunderstanding of comedy. I Think I think funny people are, tend to be liberal. I think because they want to say certain words or, or have jokes about certain things. People, I don't know why. I think because Trump aligned with them, people assume they're conservative. In my experience on this show, most people are not. Most of the famous comics are liberal people. So I, I get where they were arguing about the establishment there, but like it's also just, they're just picking what they think or what they want establishment to define.

[KFC]

I thought it was very big people. Well, that's so like, I think unfortunately we got caught up in like the definition of establishment, which is like that's now this is not interesting to me because it's like there is no denying that the manosphere, Rogan sphere, right wing, whatever you want to call it, is like a movement that is occurring. So that's an establishment. If that's a trend, whatever the fucking word you want to put on it. It's a very big deal in media. The last it is the mainstream media. I would consider it now. Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

Presidential campaign is like we won because we went on podcast.

[KFC]

Right.

[Feitelberg]

And I think the Democrats, I think, are using that as a scapegoat and being like, we lost because we didn't go on pie. But they are for sure the most consumed form of media.

[KFC]

Here's what I, where I find or.

[Feitelberg]

I don't know about for sure, but they are, at least in our world, what's talked about the most.

[KFC]

I, I here's what I think happened with the comics. I think a lot of them, if not like all of them, were really right. Left leaning, right?

[Feitelberg]

Yes.

[KFC]

But then their business gets mixed up with the social trends of canceling and all that. I think all of a sudden when you feel like your business is being threatened, your money's being threatened, you then align with the people who are not with you. You know, I, I think, I mean, Joe Rogan was notoriously left leaning, or at least you know, he had Bernie on and a lot of he said was anti Trump. But then those people kind of came after him and vilified him and tried to take him down. And I think it's natural for that person to then be like, well, you, and then it's like, oh, and this guy hates you, like, right. You know what I mean? So I don't even think it's really ideology as much as it's like business that they ended up falling in with that. It's like, oh, you guys like my jokes and don't.

[Feitelberg]

I think it was Business people became ideology for more for other people. Yes, but you know, most people, it doesn't matter where, what state taxes are.

[KFC]

Right.

[Feitelberg]

Like, right. The. If you're making a couple hundred million a year, it does matter for you. But you're one of, I don't know, 150 people. Probably like.

[KFC]

Right.

[Feitelberg]

Probably more than that, but it's a very small number.

[KFC]

But here's what I, where I think there's a little disconnect too with like what Tim was saying about. So if you don't know, she asks about like the right wing establishment of the right wing comics are the new establishment. He was kind of like, you know, in Tim's mind, establishment means like CIA and like, you know, lobbyists and like all these, you know, big government groups. So yes, again, in the definition of.

[Feitelberg]

The word, you're regularly sitting down with the executive branch. And maybe not regularly, it's not the right church, but regularly the executive branch is sitting down with a certain sect of media. I would consider that establishment.

[KFC]

Yeah, and, but whatever.

[Feitelberg]

Regularly isn't the right word there. But they're regularly doing podcasts. They're not regularly going on one person show, but they're regularly out there doing shows now.

[KFC]

And to Tim's, Tim's defense of that was like we asked Tim Waltz, we asked.

[Feitelberg]

No, no. And then Democrats fault they didn't do it.

[KFC]

Right. And Jim and Dave has said as much. I'll go on all the shows. Joe Rogan I think really has had like equal sides on if. You know, again, that was the whole thing about Kamala, like kind of botching when, where, how all those things. But, but I would say like in one breath, comics are very like main mainstream media is dead and all that. Right. It's, it's like.

[Feitelberg]

But you can't say mainstream media is dead and then claim you're not the mainstream media. And that's what we do here.

[KFC]

That's my point.

[Feitelberg]

That's what we do everywhere.

[KFC]

If you say that mainstream media is an establishment, right. And they influence everything they. I would, I would think they owe it all, like agree to that. Right. And then you're saying that mainstream media is dead, unreliable, untrustworthy, blah, blah, blah.

[Feitelberg]

Correct.

[KFC]

That's another thing. And then you've also said that podcasting and new age media is replacing old school media, then yeah. Then you're just as influential and, and po. And powerful as the legacy media was. So then it all, you know, all of these arguments that you make, kind of three of them separately all come together to Say you are. And I, I think it's true, by the way. You are influential. You are probably more at least perceived to be trustworthy than legacy media. Legacy media is dying. You're on the, on the, on the rise. You. And so like, you do influence it and that makes you. That proves their point kind of.

[Feitelberg]

And, and I, I, I think too, that podcast what I, I think that we do it here and we, Everyone does it too. They, I think Tim rejects the idea of being an establishment because if you are, with that comes responsibility. If you are mainstream media, if you are like, with that comes the responsibility of knowing what the you're talking about. And I don't think people do that. So I think that's why they want to reject the idea of, like, we're not mainstream, we're not established.

[KFC]

Because they don't want to have like, the responsibility.

[Feitelberg]

You have responsibility, then.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

To say the truth and say real, say that's what you investigated and actually learned rather than just going on and saying stuff. That's my opinion. I don't know.

[KFC]

I, I just thought the, where she did seem like silly is like, to be like, there's no successful comics on the left was basically what she was like, implying that was dumb. And then he just rattles off like, and again. Because up until now it's been exclusively left, you know what I mean? Like in Hollywood and entertainment and all that. So.

[Feitelberg]

And it'll swing back. This is what culture does. Totally. They'll swing to conservative and swing to liberal and it'll swim. I mean, but yes, right now, I, I, that, that I didn't.

[KFC]

It's hard to jump into the.

[Feitelberg]

I thought Tim going for loopholes. I didn't like, I didn't like, what.

[KFC]

Do you think was a little like.

[Feitelberg]

When he was loopholing the definition of establishment.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Feitelberg]

Well, we can't kill people. And when he, I didn't like him doing the, like, we're just comics. Like, Joe Rogan has the Navy SEALs protecting him. You're not just a comic anymore.

[KFC]

Yeah. You're not sure. But I, I, yes, you're right. But also, like, that's kind of like when, you know, athletes. Like, I'm not a role model. The Charles Barkley line. Like, I don't know, you know, like, if I got really, really famous from doing what I do and I just, I don't want to become, I, I guess like, once you start having those people on, you're kind of inherently accepting the responsibility. Like, if you're not going, like, I wouldn't want that responsibility. But then, so I wouldn't be like, I'm gonna do a pivotal interview in the middle at the very end of the election.

[Feitelberg]

And I, I think these, I think the people who tend to be involved in these conversations, the Rogans, Tim Sch, Dave, I, I think they all spent many years complaining about journalism and the media. And, and now that you are journalism in the media, I think you have the responsibility to do journalism. I, and, and that, that's not full on research, but if you're going to talk, you should have done some research. And I think and, and I, I, I hope I'm being clear about that. I think a lot of them do enough, but I don't think they want the full establishment title because with that brings, comes the.

[KFC]

Yeah, but I, I, I don't know. I'm, I'm with you. I'm somewhere in between on that where it's like if, like Joe Rogan's always kind of been like, I have conversations with people that interest me about topics that interest me. That's, that's what I do.

[Feitelberg]

That's different when it's the president, if you ask me.

[KFC]

And then, and then, and so what, like Joe Rogan has to have the responsibility, like make sure he has Kamala on or make sure he pushes back, you know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

But make sure he does a good job. And I think, and I think Joe takes that responsibility seriously.

[KFC]

I think, I think it's more that. I don't think, I don't think you have to do anything.

[Feitelberg]

I do. But I think if you're going to be the president, you have to.

[KFC]

I don't, I don't.

[Feitelberg]

I think you owe it to you. It's just like being like, like saying like you're playing hockey. I don't think you have to forecheck if you want to really play it. You do.

[KFC]

Right. But like I, I think if you, I think you're free to just like, if you wanted to have the president on, if, if Eric Andre wanted to have the president on and like around with him, like just doing like an Eric Andre type show. You know what I mean? I, I don't think, I just think you have to accept the response, the, the consequences or whatever.

[Feitelberg]

Okay, that's fair too.

[KFC]

Of like, if people are gonna, like, if people like you are gonn. I think you would have to be like, I don't care, I don't care.

[Feitelberg]

I think that's fair.

[KFC]

But you can't be like, don't Say that about me.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, I don't give a what you say. That's fine.

[KFC]

That's, that's where I think and, and that's probably where a lot of these guys are. Especially when you start making like big money, where it's just like, I'm good, I'm set, I don't care. This is how I want to do my show. I don't want to do the research or I don't think I'm responsible for like the youth of America, whatever it is. But then you have to be open to the fact that people are going to criticize you or you're going to become a villain or you're going to be whatever.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. If you want to do. I mean, SNL did it. SNL had Trump post. Like, I, it's not even a Trump, obviously Trump we're talking about. But like, I think if you're sitting down with someone with that kind of power, you should have done research. Not even research, but you should be prepared. And I want to stress, I think they often are, but that's, I think that with the title of establishment, more is expected of you.

[KFC]

I think it's also like, if you, you have to, I think, be a little bit conscious. I think at one point she asked him like, do you feel like you, you got like used or played by them? You know what I mean? Cuz it's like to me, if, if, if I am going to like crush with my podcast numbers and it's going to launch me into another stratosphere where I'll get other guests because like the President sat down with me and in exchange he, you know, reached like 50 million Americans to vote.

[Feitelberg]

Right.

[KFC]

Like that's kind of the transaction. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

But what is it? Sorry, say it again.

[KFC]

Like, like he used me for the election. Yeah, it's like, but I use him by like, you know, and if that's.

[Feitelberg]

Your answer, that's your answer.

[KFC]

But say it right.

[Feitelberg]

Say I used him for clicks.

[KFC]

That's what I mean. So that, that's where like you. It's just, I feel like it's a lot of like, I, I think she, she and, and their side sound a little crazy when they make it sound like it's this only right wing thing. Because like we said, I think it's been, I think what it is is it's the first time almost that it's been right wing. So it's like a new story.

[Feitelberg]

Because everybody, it's the first time in our lives.

[KFC]

Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, like, traditionally, like all those people usually are left wing in the fact. I also don't know if it's like.

[Feitelberg]

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[KFC]

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[KFC]

You know, there are, there are very successful, like left leaning acts, but I would say that like in.

[Feitelberg]

I don't think that most of the acts are left or right leaning. I think that, I think that's something insane we've gotten involved in. They're comedians, everything. They're not left or right. They're comedians.

[KFC]

Yeah, but I'm saying like, you, if you had to put people but like.

[Feitelberg]

Like, you know, like to stick with the hockey thing. Like, are you like David Poso's left leaning or right leaning, like he's out there playing a sport? I, I think the, I think a lot of comedians internally are liberal. I don't think once they get on stage, they're one or the other. I think they're just going up there telling jokes.

[KFC]

Yeah, but you would know, you know, who is. You know what I mean? I don't know if you put, if I put my show off on stage when he's listening side, are you on? Like you would. She's left leaning. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

But like, when he's listing Daily show people, like left out, people who he, he had. People who had auditioned for Daily show left out Nate Bargazi. I wouldn't consider Nate a liberal comedian.

[KFC]

Yeah, no, he's probably, I mean, Nate's very good about just.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, so he left him out because.

[KFC]

He, it doesn't fit the narrative. But, but I would say, you know, Jon Stewart, Trevor Noah, Michelle Wolf and the people he did name and Nate.

[Feitelberg]

That only, that argument only makes sense if he said auditioned, because I think he did say auditioned and Nate auditioned. He didn't get a role. But I don't know.

[KFC]

But there are you know, she said something about like the, all the left shows getting like canceled or they're not around anymore. And it's like I think that's what you're talking about with the Pendulum. It's like, I don't know, maybe that, that's not hitting with the, the, the people, the audience right now, but like in 10 years it will, it's like she said like the Daily show. It's not as popular as it once was. But if you go back to like the early 2000s, people would be like saying that about the right wing shows now it's the rights time.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

All you know, I think people Colbert.

[Feitelberg]

Report did exist, but Colbert Report was making fun of Republicans. Just most of them didn't get it. Liked it because they thought Costima Colbert was actually the Republican.

[KFC]

Right. He really meant is interesting how much like that I, I expected it. I thought she sounded, literally sounded like it drove me crazy the way she was talking to her and she, the girl interviewed Meghan Markle. Markle recently that have, did you see that at all? I don't even know who she was. But people were like, they were labeling like this is the most insufferable podcast to ever be recorded. Cuz it was like Megan Marle just doing what she does. And then the interviewer on that side was like just the way she was just like I just want to begin with asking you like are you okay? And it was just like this whole thing makes me want to put a bullet in my head. To, to me, it's, it's like, I mean I, I, I'll do now where it's like I, what did I do recently I made a joke about oh, Trump with the McDonald's truck. Saudi Arabia made a mobile McDonald's 18 wheeler for him. And, and I was, you know, saying like what a great presidential perk. And but I was like, and all it takes is that, you know, you have to rub elbows with like the most heinous people on planet Earth. And like, and I lost, you know, a bunch of followers that day or whatever. And I was like, I was reaching a point where I was like, I don't know, I'm just trying to be successful here. And like that that was, wasn't really worth it.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Why do I do this? And I have to imagine if it was like as that, that, that you're losing money or losing popularity on a much higher level, you'd be like, all right, that wasn't worth it. But I almost feel like it's the opposite Those people get more by leaning into it more. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like, I feel like being in the middle is almost like the worst thing.

[Feitelberg]

Because I would say wholeheartedly agree with that.

[KFC]

I did, you know, I, I, I did. There was the McDonald's thing and then there was something like right before that where I, I was leaning a little. Right. I lost followers that day and it was like, oh, this is where it's just not worth it. Yeah, but I guess if you pick one and go in, whatever you lose, you gain like tenfold on the other side. But that's where I think it all really, a lot of times comes down to business more than anything than before its ideology or anything like that. But, but it is also interesting that, like, this interview became its own thing before anybody watched the whole thing because it had not been released. So it was just like, that was the storyline immediately.

[Feitelberg]

But, like, why did that even become a story?

[KFC]

I think because Tim was like, I did this interview and they won't put it out. And they're only putting out 10 minutes. Which is also fair on his point to be like, what the is this? You know, I mean, don't ask me to do an interview or, or like, if you're gonna do 10 minutes, let's do 10 minutes. And like, it's fluff or whatever, but if you're gonna do an. And Tim's also, like, informed. He's smart in comedy and politics and culture and all that. So, like, he's going to get you a few times, you know what I mean? I, I, I, I think, I think that the world is so afraid of like, putting something out where you are wrong or get proven wrong or whatever. And like, yeah, I think you need way more of that where it's like, yeah, she made some good points, he made some good points. You're right, you're wrong.

[Feitelberg]

Like, but I, I think like, like the, the discussion around it is all, it's, I don't know. That's why you can't use Twitter anymore. It's because it's just all one side or the other side. It doesn't matter. I don't know. The clips I saw, that looked like a pretty normal, healthy discussion to me.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. I think there were times where like, I think it was a quick check for her a couple times where she was like, oh, okay. Like if, like, she was just like, you know, somebody said that Joe Rogan, like, wouldn't allow them to talk to me, and Tim was like, that's like, Joe Rogan would never do that.

[Feitelberg]

Wait, I don't.

[KFC]

It was like she wanted someone on the show. And that person said, joe Rogan won't allow me to. And Tim was like, I don't doubt that that person said that. But, like, there's no world where Joe Rogan tells people they can and can't do. And she was kind of, like, floored by that. You know, I think she went in with a. With her, like, preconceived notions that she almost never considered were, like, not real. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Yeah. So when she. He was like, you know, Joe Rogan would never stop me from going on cnn, like, I'm doing this now. You know? And she was kind of like, oh, okay. And it was like that. That's it. Like, you didn't have any sort of contingency for the idea.

[Feitelberg]

But it's not like, that's. I. I don't think you have a contingency. Just go, okay, I'm wrong.

[KFC]

Yeah. I mean. And she kind of did. But I think if you're doing. Yeah, I mean, maybe. Maybe this was maybe because it's a.

[Feitelberg]

Conversation, not a fight. Like.

[KFC]

Yeah, but I think people.

[Feitelberg]

Okay.

[KFC]

Yeah. Yeah. I think. I think people went into it with the idea that it was, like, combative because of all the rhetoric around it when. When in reality. But I also think there's something to be said for, like, it looked like you. That it was not, like, a question of, like, do you think Joe Rogan would ever, like, stop somebody from going on show? And you say, no, and you're going, okay. It was like, I'm telling you the story about this thing, and I believe it to be true. And he's like, no, it's not. And you were just like, oh, okay, never mind that.

[Feitelberg]

Oh, you know, that's what I was told.

[KFC]

Yeah. But I think when you kind of go into it, you know, if. If you really. If you don't know for sure. I think the way she was presenting a lot of that stuff was almost like, as fact. Or everybody agrees with this, or don't you agree that this is the way it is? And when he was like, no, and here. Here's all my examples. Why it was just kind of like a. Oh, okay. Which is fine, I guess. All right.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, that's a fair point.

[KFC]

But then that. I think that ends up kind of being a pretty shitty interview in that sense.

[Feitelberg]

But it's not right. Like, that's what a con. That's what an interview is I think.

[KFC]

If it was like a podcast interview, it was like I have, you know, you're my guest and like this all just unfolded but for like a, A one off or actually, I don't know, I don't know what that show was. I don't know if that was a.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, I've never seen that one, so.

[KFC]

I guess I can't speak to that. But it felt like a, you know, we're having Tim on to do this, this one time thing. But yeah, if it's like a regular podcast conversation, that's a different story. You kind of go through the motions, figure out what you know and what you don't know, agree, disagree, all that sort of stuff. But I definitely thought there were times where it was like, you don't know, you don't know what is going on in this world, but kind of presenting it like you do. Yeah, I mean that's, I think where you get in trouble. But. But it is interesting. I will say the one thing for sure is that like, if you think that the podcast and the right wing manosphere, all that is really influential, then these other outlets and the other side just are doing it.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like you can't, like they don't. The right wing politics and the right. Right wing acts are like doing it and doing it well and it's working for everybody over there.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

So either, you know, do it or, or don't do it, but stop complaining about it because, you know, it's clearly going to be a thing and it's not going anywhere. So would be interesting. That was the other thing is like, you know, trying to come up with the left. The left, Joe Rogan, you know, and.

[Feitelberg]

It'S like there isn't one and there shouldn't. Like, not that there shouldn't be, but there doesn't need to be. Yeah, they're like, they want there to be, though. There will be when there is.

[KFC]

Like it's gonna happen naturally. But it's also like it was Joe Rogan.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

He was your guy. And I don't know, maybe that's more the lesson is like don't piss off or go after or vilify the people who were on your side. Because there was a time where like I, I think if the left did not try to cancel Joe and all that, he would probably be much more of an ally. All these terms, I hate the canceling and the ally and all that. But like he, you know, there's, there's those compilations of him saying everything that the left wants to Hear. And then it switched, basically, like, right after they decided to, you know, go after him on cnn. So it's like, if you. I feel like they almost play, like, victim of it, you know, where it's like. But it's like you kind of created this.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I feel like the left has to, like, make it more. Like it's harder to make it cool.

[KFC]

Yeah, that. That is.

[Feitelberg]

I so strongly disagree with. I so strongly disagree with it. Like, it's hard. I see what you're saying is the problem is, like, being like, hey, be nice to people. Sounds uncool.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Feitelberg]

But, like, it should be cool, but it doesn't sound.

[KFC]

It's like, if you're going to be talking about, like, freedom and America and guns and, like, my land and stand my ground, it's like you're an action movie. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And the other shit is more like, you know, you're a, like, Oscar Academy Award winner. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

But if you're just like, be nice to gay people. What are you a.

[KFC]

You're. You're not wrong. But, like, that is the. That is the perception. Yeah, That's.

[Feitelberg]

That, to me, that's crazy that that turns people off.

[KFC]

But.

[Jackie]

But it's almost like it's like. Like, I think that you do it in a cool way where it's like, yeah, be nice to gay people.

[KFC]

But this is why I think you do need a left Joe Rogan. Yeah, I do. Because I think a lot of times the people conveying those messages are very unlikable people. It's like, I agree with what you're saying, but I don't like you. Yeah, it's either or. It's very foreign. Like, it's like, average person can't relate to the way that a lot of these people might look, talk, sound live. You know what I mean? But I think a lot of it does come across as preachy, whiny, all those things that it's like, it shouldn't. And these things shouldn't even really be related, but they are. And the person delivering the message, there's a. A whole bunch of guys who just like, I get Andrew Schultz, I get Joe Rogan, you know, and so they listen and they agree and they, you know, like, it radicalizes them or whatever. You know, not radicalize, but, like, it bolsters them, you know, where there's not, like, somebody to rally around on the other side.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And I think that it shouldn't, but.

[Feitelberg]

I. I don't think. Because of exactly what you're saying. I don't think it'll exist. Not now, not in, like, the car.

[KFC]

But that, that might be the issue is that like the, the latest, the thing that has really changed everything is like the Internet and podcasts and social media and all that. So in this new world, you might, you know, until that pendulum does swing or you do find someone or you do find the outlet or something to reach those people, like, you might be in trouble.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. Because, like, it is, it is weird, I'll say that. Like, how people don't think like that. Like, I can't even tell you how many, like, how many texts now I get from random people, barstool people, old friends, high school friends, college friends, where it's just like, I don't feel like doing something. And it's like, what are you a. I'm like, jesus Christ, dude. Like, yeah, you're just talking in conversation like that.

[KFC]

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, that's, that's where they're, they're, that's where comedy also gets weird with, like, regular people. It's like a lot of times comics are going to be talking or saying things in a way that is performative and shocking and whatever for that. And, like, they're doing that. If you just work that into your.

[Feitelberg]

Everyday insane to talk like that. If you're on stage, you're on a podcast, you're telling a joke and it's a good joke. That makes sense. Yeah, it honestly is kind of like, like the second amendment where it's like, army soldiers are like, dude, they don't need a AR15.

[KFC]

Like, that's, that's not what we were talking about.

[Feitelberg]

They're okay with a nine millimeter.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Feitelberg]

You don't need to be bringing AR15s into text combos because I don't feel like going to a movie, dude.

[KFC]

That's where I, the responsibility thing kind of comes in, where it's like, like Tim said in that as long as people at his club, he's like, yeah, the, the, his club like, skews towards the comedy that he likes. And as long as people are making a good faith effort to be funny, like, anything kind of goes right, but like, then that influences, like, everyday life. And it's like, but Joe Rogan's answer to that, like, that's not my. I put on a comedy club. I, I, I put on a show for these people, you know what I mean? And like, I don't want them to. I don't, like, I'm not here to hold their hand. I don't want to, as they walk out the door, be like, hey, by the way, don't repeat anything you heard on stage. You know, so I get where he's, you know, like you said, fair response. But it also is like, these are the things that influence everything. You know, it's crazy, but it influences everything. It's like what we were joking about with Dave. We're like, where did all this hate speech come from? Like, this is, it does translate into everyday people's lives. So, but yeah, I, I, overall, that is the issue is that it is, it's if it, especially as a guy, I feel like it's easier to just kind of fall in with the right.

[Feitelberg]

Than it is 100% easy.

[KFC]

And that is going to be a problem if you are going to be reaching millions and millions of people. And it's like, I would feel like I, if you were to give me, you know, a, a Schultz, a Rogan, whoever that, you know, we're talking these stereotypes and the left counterpart. I don't even know who it would be. But, and if it was just like, who do you want to, like, hang out with or have a conversation with or who do you think would accept you more? Like, it's not gonna be the left.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. I mean, because you up one thing, you say one thing wrong.

[KFC]

Right?

[Feitelberg]

You if you like, say tranny, and it's like, what the hell, Right? Sorry, I didn't know the new word even. But you should make an effort to learn them too.

[KFC]

When he brought up, this is an extreme case because it's not just slipping up with a word, but like, she, she was talking about the left, and, and Tim mentions Louis CK and she goes, yeah, but he's done. And it's like, yeah, I get where you're coming from on that. But he, I, I actually don't know about Louie. I, I, if Tim saying, it's probably, he probably knows better. But it's like, there's a good example of like, that's a guy who probably did align with you.

[Feitelberg]

He's like, no one knows. He's just a guy doing a job. He's, he's a guy telling jokes. And because he said bad words, he must be a conservative comedian.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

And that's how the line of thinking is now, which is where I think that is. Like, so five years ago, was that any, I mean, anyone in the arts, like, think of entertainment. Everyone's always.

[KFC]

That was, that was like the joke and the problem that the right hated Was that, you know, all these liberal elitists, you know, jamming their ideology down your throat and now it's like there's a couple people who don't do that and it all of a sudden it's turned into the establishment and this crazy thing and. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't know, I think you're still probably outnumbered 99 to 1. Yeah, but I guess it's like those people are the loudest, or I don't want to say loudest, but like the most successful, the most, the biggest platforms, all that sort of. But, but it is one of those things. I, you know, you got to figure it out because it ain't going away, so. But yeah, it was interesting to watch that. I, I didn't watch the full thing yet because it was a long, long interview, but it's definitely worth, worth the watch. X Chair provides next level comfort and support that moves with you. I cannot tell you how important a good chair is. It's like having a good bed. If you, like sit at your desk, work from home, and you're doing it on like a crappy chair. Ugh, ruins your life. That's why you need an X chair, which has dynamic variable lumbar support that adjusts automatically to support your back. You need the bottom, you need the top, you need the middle of the thoracic people. Forget about the thoracic, John.

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[Feitelberg]

Welcome back.

[KFC]

Jackie back after doing her civic duty. She's a criminal justice expert now. Two weeks.

[Jackie]

I, I literally had the time of my life. Like, it was so fun.

[KFC]

That doesn't surprise me. First of all, I could see Jackie, like, say what happens, you get you get like the order and then you go. And then you might get picked, you might not get picked, right?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

I could see when Jackie got picked being like, oh my God, they picked me. I'm in. Of course.

[Jackie]

Like, it's literally like you get up there and you have a microphone and you have to like give a whole presentation about.

[KFC]

Do a little like a ten minute set.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I was like, I didn't know that I need a presentation. But then.

[KFC]

So what did you say?

[Jackie]

Well, then it was just like. Well, the whole thing was like, Jackie from Long island, everyone like gets up and then like, they kind of take it as their time to like give. Like they really like to talk about themselves. They'll say like. Because all they want to know is like, is your name, like, where are you from, what your hobbies are? Do you know anybody in law enforcement? Have you ever been involved in whatever.

[KFC]

And everyone's like, things that might.

[Jackie]

Well, my cousin was in law enforcement.

[KFC]

You gotta think, man. You know, 99 of people don't like to talk in front of people. I get that. But then there's also like, we're always talking in front of Mike. You give a random person a mic and it's like their time to shine. Yeah. They're not nervous. They're probably going to give you.

[Feitelberg]

I'm going to say 100% of people are not used to having an audience.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

And it's just like, well, and everyone has to listen to me and think.

[KFC]

About how many people you sit with that just tell horrible, long winded stories that can't get to the point that are always adding extra details. So this is just that, like, we just need to know if you're going to be biased against this case. And you're talking about like where you grew up and what your childhood was. You know, I'm surprised they even ask, like your hobbies and all that shit. I'm surprised. It's not, not just like, do you have cops in your family? Have you ever been robbed? No. Okay, you're in or out.

[Jackie]

You know, people, people like really went in on the hobbies.

[KFC]

What did you say?

[Jackie]

Well, no, I didn't. I was like, I like to hang out with friends. I don't know. It was. So they also kept being like, hey, can you move the mic closer?

[Feitelberg]

Shut up, shut the up.

[KFC]

Really?

[Feitelberg]

The only person with production experience, they're.

[KFC]

Like, excuse me, is your microphone on now that you turned it on?

[Jackie]

This happens a lot.

[KFC]

Wow, that is very funny.

[Jackie]

Anyways. But yeah, so then I just kind of get. But then I was so nervous because, like, I like really hate public speaking, which is like crazy.

[KFC]

Only person with production background and an audience. I'm a producer and an on camera and on mic and star, and I can't talk or work the microphone.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I was kind of like. Like, I was. I just said like, no to everything. I was like, my dad's kind of in law enforcement, but like, it's not really important. I just like, I just like, kept going. I was just like, no, no, no, no.

[Feitelberg]

No to your one answer. Yes, but everything. The one thing you want to know. Yes, my family does work in the law enforcement.

[KFC]

Does he though, or didn't he like make that up?

[Jackie]

No, he. He's.

[KFC]

Oh, he's like run his own little.

[Jackie]

He's a banker. He's a banker. Like, and he just like. But they literally were like, teach you lessons. No, no, he like arrests people.

[KFC]

He did, yeah.

[Feitelberg]

He was the definition of works in law enforcement.

[Jackie]

But he. It's like, it's like he doesn't get paid. Like, he's like, oh, okay.

[Feitelberg]

I think he got paid.

[KFC]

I think I remember some story about you. Like, you were like running around hiding.

[Jackie]

A search and rescue. But he also like, like arrests people and he also like, he has like.

[KFC]

Finds cuffs and a gun and stuff. Yeah, but he doesn't work for the cops.

[Jackie]

But he doesn't work for the cop. It's so weird. It's so weird.

[KFC]

Is your dad a superhero?

[Feitelberg]

Mike Banning? Yeah.

[KFC]

Is he a vigilante?

[Jackie]

No, no, but it's like. But that's the thing. It's like I. I was just like, I don't know if it's important, but I don't want to lie under oath. Whatever. Anyways, it was a whole thing, so.

[KFC]

I kind of want to get to the bottom.

[Feitelberg]

That would be funny. Just an episode where Jackie accidentally perjured herself. You're going to jail. I just didn't know the answer.

[KFC]

I could just see a. An always sunny, cold, open, like, does anyone you know in your family work in law enforcement? No. The gang goes to jail.

[Jackie]

It was gonna happen, but everyone was giving such long winded answers. And then. And then they also asked because it was a credit card theft, like, like thing. And so they were kind of like, have you have any involvement in credit card theft? And it's funny because, like, I currently.

[KFC]

Like, do you have any debt?

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, I. But I currently. I like, I was telling this the other day, like I was at a dinner and there was A magician there. And the magic. And the magician, like, was going around the room, like, do. And he was like a mind reader, like, mentalist, whatever. And he was going around the room doing, like, his tricks of people. I was like, do me. Do me. And he was like, do you have any cash? And I was like, I don't have any cash. So then he was like, do you have a credit card or a debit card? So I give him my debit card, and he, like, looks at it for a second, and he gives it back to me. And then he, like, goes around the room, and he's like, what's your age? Like, how many dogs do you have? Like, blah, blah, blah. And he's, like, adding it all up, and then it adds up to my credit card number. So then I was like, well, it was, like, the last six digits, but so then I was like, first of all, can you not set the whole table? My credit card number. And second of all. And then. Then he, like, gives it back to me. He was like, you should really cancel that. And then I was like, funny. And I, like, turn, and I'm, like, talking to somebody, and I, like, turn back and. And, like, the magician's gone. I was like, hey, guys. Where the magician just goes.

[KFC]

Like.

[Jackie]

I don't know. He kind of just disappeared. Like, I guess that's like, you know.

[Feitelberg]

Once again, the image of them being like, if you had any credit card issues, and you're like, well, dinner was.

[KFC]

There's a magician.

[Feitelberg]

Magician stole my number.

[KFC]

There's some foreman or whatever being like, jesus.

[Feitelberg]

Actually, I'm glad to finally get this on the record, your honor, Fizbo the great over on 27th and Broadway stole my credit card number. Only you.

[Jackie]

And so now. So then the next day, I couldn't use my debit card. So then.

[KFC]

Oh, you actually did cancel it.

[Jackie]

No, I didn't cancel it. It just stopped working. So then I was like, oh, the magician, actually.

[KFC]

But.

[Jackie]

But then, like, I didn't see any charges, so I was like, I guess it's fine. But then I saw three charges for the subway on it. So I was like, all right. I guess, like, I'll let the magician, like, take the subway every now and then. Like, it's not, like, a big enough charge for me to.

[KFC]

Would that be a great racket? Some dude who's, like, down and out, but he has magic skills. He just goes around.

[Feitelberg]

That's what magicians would do. If magicians were real, they would just take money because.

[Jackie]

Well, also, like, if you're A magician. And, and if, when you show your magical powers, like, everyone's gonna freak out at you if you want to make money. The best thing to do if you're a magician is to be a magician and hide in plain sight. Because then like, if anybody questions you, you're just like, guys, magic isn't real.

[Feitelberg]

That's my point with Dr. Oz. Every time Dr. Oz comes up, he's a magician. That's how you know he's not a magician. Cuz he's a magician.

[Jackie]

Oh, no, no, no. But like, that's how he might be a magician. Because it's like, okay, like if I'm a plumber and all of a sudden I like, you know, I like snap my fingers and your plumbing's going, you're gonna be like, you're a magician.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, yeah. You're not a plumber, you're a magician, sir.

[Jackie]

Anyway, so, anyway, so, so the point.

[KFC]

Was like idiotic, this whole conversation.

[Jackie]

I used to feel like it's a really soundproof logic, but the wood is basically like, I, I again, I was just nervous. So I kind of like was like, I don't feel like getting the whole magician thing. So I'm just gonna tell them no. Like I have been.

[KFC]

You know, this girl stands up here and she's like, People were way too long winded. So jury duty with the magician in the restaurant.

[Jackie]

Anyways, but then the point was that basically the guy, the whole case was he had stolen like some credit cards. And then, and at first, like when I was like, I'm gonna ride for my D guy. Like, I'm gonna die for my guy. Like, I don't care what he did. Like, my guy's free. Like, I ain't no snitch, whatever. So I'm going into it like that.

[KFC]

On a jury, Literally a snitch.

[Jackie]

But I was just like, I don't know, like sometimes, like maybe, maybe because he had like a family. I was like, maybe.

[KFC]

Okay. I was gonna say, did you go in blind or you saw him?

[Jackie]

I saw he, I saw he had a family.

[KFC]

Was he white or black? Does that matter?

[Jackie]

Oh, there's more than two races.

[Feitelberg]

He was.

[KFC]

Your. Did you think?

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, like my white savior complex was like, I'm going to ride for my. Like I'm not.

[KFC]

This guy's not as young or old.

[Jackie]

30, but he did not look like a good 30. So then, so then I was, Anyway, so I was going into it very open minded. Again, white sa complex. So then he like immediately they, they like preface whatever He. He paid off. Immediately paid off. Once he stole his credit card, bought veneers, and then like took a bunch of photos in the veneers. So. Which is quite possibly the one thing that you can't. Like, if you bought a watch, you could spin it as like, maybe you're trying to give it to as a present to your wife or like, maybe you want to sell it or something. Veneers is like the one thing that it's like, there's photos of you, it's for yourself and only yourself.

[KFC]

It's also though, like, and it's cosmetic.

[Feitelberg]

He's your dawn with the I'm ugly defense. Been like, look, that young woman right there. She knows I'm not a great looking 30 year old.

[KFC]

Honestly. That would be. That would be. I would ride for someone that's just like, bro, I'm heinous. I've been heinous my whole life. I got rocks for teeth.

[Jackie]

He wasn't even. It was fine teeth. It was truly fine teeth.

[KFC]

Well, then that's, that's.

[Jackie]

But then he ended up for this case, he pulled out three of his teeth so that he could be like, hey, guys, that can't be my teeth because I'm missing three teeth. And I was also missing it in 2023.

[KFC]

And then kind of a. Are they veneers? Are they like, you know, crowns or.

[Jackie]

Because it was pop on.

[KFC]

Those are veneers then. Okay, that's just a semantic set. But I was gonna say if someone said, I got veneers, and I was like, no, I didn't. That's a pretty good defense.

[Feitelberg]

I actually don't know what veneers are.

[KFC]

Veneers are like, I have veneers. They're like, you know, they're in there. You. You grind your teeth down to like a little nub and then you build around them.

[Jackie]

These were like.

[KFC]

So that's like a crown. Whatever. Oh, like almost like dentures in a way then.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I guess, like, it was just like a cheaper veneers got it.

[KFC]

But it was like, it's gonna steal credit cards and get the real thing.

[Jackie]

Get the real thing.

[KFC]

Because like, you listen, you can like repo my car.

[Feitelberg]

The real thing takes time, I imagine.

[Jackie]

But it was also weird. Like he still had a schedule, an appointment, the next.

[KFC]

Yeah, all of it is like, you gotta like go measure your teeth and all that. Like veneers, you take a week. You get like, you go in, they grind you down. They let you put. They put fake ones on for like a week. Like A whole. It's like one piece.

[Jackie]

It was so funny seeing him on the stand. Like, the photos were behind him. It was like, clearly him. He's like, that's on me.

[KFC]

Was he representing, like, himself? But he was doing a lot of talking.

[Jackie]

Well, he wasn't. They weren't gonna have him talk because then you could see his teeth and.

[KFC]

Then you could hear your honor.

[Feitelberg]

So then.

[Jackie]

So then some of the lawyer at first was like, hey, sir, are you guys cool if he never talks? And we were like, I. It's definitely like, I guess that's fine. Like, maybe you shy. And then, like, the teeth thing came.

[KFC]

Out and we were like, oh, were they like, big? Like Chiclets? They're like big.

[Jackie]

They were just like, no, no, no. Cuz again, they were like pop. Like, just like pop on veneer. So like, it was like Invisalign. Whatever. So he just, like, took them out. So he didn't have them, but you could just see his normal teeth. They're fine teeth.

[KFC]

Does it really matter what you spent? Like, I don't know. Just like you stole the credit card, bro. Stop talking about your teeth. You know?

[Jackie]

Well, it was like this. Like, you had us prove that the. So then he. He got like. He made a bunch of fake emails. And the emails were like, Gambler Guy 101. Like, it was like, you are so. And then it was like, in his name with his photo. And it's like, worst criminal ever. Yeah.

[KFC]

He was just like, but so you wanted to ride for him. And then there was just too much evidence.

[Jackie]

It was just too much like. I was trying. I was really trying.

[Feitelberg]

My favorite story was when Jackie came back last week and is telling the story about how in the courthouse, the lights on the ceiling very much resemble breasts.

[KFC]

They're titty lights and with a little. Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

And. And Jackie's like, the guy kept leaning back and just laughing at him. And what I found funny is that you guys. You and. And the. The. The defendant never had a conversation about those lights looking like titties. You just assumed. Assumed he's looking at the titties.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah.

[KFC]

Pretty big jump.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. He could have been giggling at something.

[Jackie]

Else, I guess, but he. He would look up at the titty lights, and then he would just be like. And he would look down.

[Feitelberg]

I like that you guys had an unspoken connection. You're like, me and him, titty.

[KFC]

Like, I know.

[Feitelberg]

We know about the lights.

[Jackie]

And like, like, it. It was the only glimpse of joy. Like, the rest was just like my life.

[KFC]

I'M so. I'm going to jail.

[Jackie]

I actually really with this guy. Like, this guy rocks.

[KFC]

But it sounds like you got a crush.

[Jackie]

Yeah, maybe I do.

[KFC]

Speaking of. Of titties, we got a new, a new adventure for Jackie. Hashtag tits and pits. Oh, I spoke to the Mirror Dry people. They're gonna hook her up.

[Jackie]

So my one concern is if I get it done, get like Nick's sweat in one area. Is it this sweat?

[KFC]

No, no, they, they, they, they, they call that compensatory sweating. I don't really think that's a thing.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[KFC]

Cuz I remember being worried about that too. Like, a lot of people have it in their hands and I was like, I don't want to like, get it down my armpits and then all of a sudden have like, sweaty hands.

[Feitelberg]

Jackie's just pouring sweat. You know that gif airplane I think it's from was raining down her weird.

[Jackie]

Because I have two dry holes right here.

[Feitelberg]

Guys, look how, look how dry my shirt is right now.

[Jackie]

I'm like.

[Feitelberg]

Ls got a bowl under her face. My shirt is the drier sh.

[KFC]

Say, but, but I said that, you know, she got her tits done, now she's going to get her pits done. What was the third thing you said?

[Jackie]

You're going to. Lips done?

[KFC]

Yeah. So she might be Tits, pits and lips. Tits, pits and lips, baby. Let's go.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

All natural. She's natural beauty, folks.

[Jackie]

I, I never claim to be all natural, but.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, that you technically are though, right? Like, yeah, they just took stuff away.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's actually.

[KFC]

That is a good point. That's a great point.

[Feitelberg]

They never added stuff, Right?

[KFC]

Yeah, you're not, you're not unnatural, but you are like, altered.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

It's like plastic surgery. Who? I don't know.

[Feitelberg]

Right.

[KFC]

All I did was get my bone broken and my tits taken out.

[Jackie]

That's really true.

[KFC]

Did you ever, like, when they did.

[Jackie]

It, kind of hard to.

[KFC]

What?

[Jackie]

Botoxes.

[KFC]

That goes away though.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

It's like you poison your body every time you drink. That's not matter, Right. Mass.

[Feitelberg]

Mass doesn't disappear or mass stays. It just changes shape, right?

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah, I took the mass away from her chest definitively, yes. If you put it like into your ass or something, that would have been like. Yeah, I was, I was gonna say, when they did that, did you like. You don't like, see anything, right? I'd be interested to see like if there was just like a pile of internal titles, you know, a steel, stainless steel tray or something. Have you ever seen, like, liposuction? Like, yeah, I guess that's what you should be. It's basically liposuction in your tits, right?

[Jackie]

I guess so. I don't really.

[KFC]

It's, like, gross. It's like yellow. Like, if you were to, like, close your eyes and think of fat. Yeah, but it's like, fat is gross.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like, if it was just, like, a clear. Like, you know, she's like, oh, that's just fat. But it's, like, yellow, gross fat. Yeah.

[Jackie]

That's why fat is attractive here, but not attractive, you know?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

No, I mean, there's something. I really think there has to be something, like, primal or biological, because it's like, if you. If you just had, like, a lump on, like, your leg that was a tit, you'd be like, you're a freak. But, yeah, just. It's like, look at those things. Hey, they're on the ceiling. They're awesome. But tits, lips and pits are Beamer bends and Bentley. Jackie's gonna be riding high, man.

[Jackie]

I haven't even had, like, my. You know, like, once I get a little bit of money, that.

[KFC]

Then you're really. Because.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

What are you gonna get if you get, like, real money?

[Jackie]

I don't know.

[KFC]

I mean, you've kind of done the big ones.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

If you ask most girls, like, all right, here's a blank check. They'd be like, I want nice tits in my note and, like, my face. You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Like, you got leash ones? Like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, you'd be surprised at all the eyelid ones.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You get, like, the arm ones. That's like, the ballerina arms is, like, the biggest one, apparently.

[KFC]

Was that just, like, liposuction in your arms?

[Jackie]

I don't really know what it is.

[KFC]

Saw some guy recovering from height heightening surgery.

[Feitelberg]

Huh.

[KFC]

That is barbaric, man. You gotta really be insecure about your height.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

He had, like, a metal bar. Almost looked like the handle of a lightsaber. I don't know why I came to. My mind was like, this big, like, metal, like, weird thing. And then had, like, three or four, like, pins that go in.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. Zaza's got the scars.

[KFC]

Zod did it.

[Feitelberg]

He didn't do it. He. He. They, like. I think they went to do it and it didn't work. But Zaz got scars for it.

[KFC]

But they.

[Feitelberg]

So they did not. It didn't work, but there was something prevented them from doing it. So they didn't actually do it, but Z underwent it.

[KFC]

I mean, like, I. I can't imagine. I almost feel like for Z, I can't decide who that surgery would be good for because, like, it's so bar. Like, these people have to, like, learn how to walk again.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

You know, and it's like. Okay, is it. You know, even from like five six to, like, five nine? But you had to like. Yeah, yeah. Out of work. You, like. You know what I mean? Like, it's crazy. And then if you are someone, like, like, if you're a dwarf, like, I don't know, is it really gonna fix? Like, Zaz almost just like, I feel like he owns it. He's just like, whatever. He's. You know. But so then if you go from like four and a half feet tall to like 4:10 or something like that. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

But there it's. I. I think my guess is it affects your life. Like, it doesn't. It's not really. Like. Yes. People don't think I'm tall now.

[KFC]

Yeah. It doesn't hurt.

[Feitelberg]

But now I can drive a fucking car.

[KFC]

Yeah, true. That's true. That's a good point.

[Jackie]

That's a good point. What's up with you guys?

[KFC]

What's up with me? Nothing, really. I'm living in. I'm just. My whole house has been reduced to, like, one room. It's a nightmare.

[Jackie]

But. But because you're redoing everything.

[KFC]

Yeah. And they just like. It was all supposed to be done in phases, and then because it, like, all fell apart, it's all being done, like, at once. You don't realize how much your life revolves around your kitchen. Oh, if you don't have a kitchen, it's just like, you're even just like. Like a sink. I now have a bathroom sink. You can't do dishes in a sink.

[Jackie]

Do you cook in the bathroom sink?

[KFC]

I cook.

[Feitelberg]

Wait, you do dishes in the bathroom sink? Or you're saying you can't?

[KFC]

I mean, I. I'm at this point, I'm just doing, like, plastic everything. Yeah, but when there's like a. You know, if you want to cook something, you still have to use, like, a pot, you know? And then it's like I just have this little tiny sink in my. My bathroom instead of, like, a kitchen sink.

[Feitelberg]

How long is that for?

[KFC]

Too long. I can't, you know, I can't just. I don't know how this works, man. I got to talk to. Hey, if anybody out there is, like a contractor, like, get at me Because I don't know enough to be like, this is taking too long. And maybe it's taking the exact right amount of time. Maybe they're doing a great job, you know? But it's like, I want people to be there every single day from like 9 to 5, working on my fucking house. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Maybe it doesn't. Maybe contractors would be like, that's just not how it works, man. I got like, guys who are here and there, and we come for a couple hours here and there and that's it. But I'm like, I want it done. So just get here. Like, I. I keep the roof. Guys came and did the roof, and they worked every single day for like 10 straight days until it was done. These guys are like, some guy does electrical. And then here and there I'm like.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, that's a nightmare. With like the. I can't get this done until they get that done.

[KFC]

That's my whole life, man. My whole life. It's just like, I can't do this until that. I can't do that until this. And then it just keeps taking forever. And then when you, like when I have my kids over, it's like, then it's a real nightmare, you know?

[Jackie]

You know, is it, like, dangerous for them to like.

[KFC]

No, it's not dangerous, but it's just like, you know, he goes and plays video games while she watches the tv. And now it's like we're all in one room and it's. It's a whole thing, man. But other than that, just, you know, same old, same old. Step up your grooming game with the new Stetson's cooling men's grooming collection. That's the Stetson Cooling men's grooming collection. From face, from. From start to finish, they got you covered. So if your face ever feels tight and dry after you shave, which is pretty much all of us, we just don't even realize it or register. Stetson is for you. They have high performance formulas using advanced cooling technology that feels amazing on your skin. Smells incredible, thanks to the Stetson spirit fragrance. So like I said, from start to finish. So whether you're talking about the pre shave, where they have the face and beard exfoliant wash, you wash it up beforehand or you're talking about shaving. They have the breakthrough cooling shave oil. Not foam, not gel, not cream. It's the shave oil that gives you a close, smooth shave. And then the aftershave option. They have the. They have two options. They have the moisture splash and the soothing balm. So this right here is the exfoliant wash. But they have the moisture splash and the soothing balm with two different scents, two different fragrances courtesy of Stetson, and these premium formulas, no fuss, grooming. And all of it all together is just $7.97 each. So the full collection is available exclusively at Walmart in stores or online. Get all three for just 7.97 each. The. Have you seen the streets? They already have the barriers up. Really? 7th Avenue barrier. In anticipation for the game, which is so crazy because it's game one, but it's gonna happen every single time.

[Feitelberg]

I think it'll be fun. That'd be cool.

[KFC]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, are you. Are you on the Knicks bandwagon, Jack?

[Jackie]

Hell, yeah. Wait, so what happens? What? Who are they playing tonight?

[KFC]

The Pacers. The Indiana Pacers, which is crazy because. So the Knicks Pacers has been a thing, like, my whole childhood. It was like, knicks, Pacers.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

I think the last, like, four times the Knicks have been to the Eastern Conference Finals, it's the Pacers. The Pacers. They played against Granger and Paul George. Yeah. And then. So they got a lot of history with these guys. Reggie Miller, you know, Reggie Miller is. No, Reggie Miller was like, this Knicks assassin back in the day, and he had this one moment where he scored eight points in nine seconds.

[Jackie]

Eight points in nine seconds. Okay, so four baskets, and it was.

[KFC]

Like two threes and a bucket, I think.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[KFC]

But it was like, you know, when you're up by eight with under a minute to go, like, this game's over, and all of a sudden, nine seconds, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We're losing. It was fucking. It's like one of the nightmare. Nightmare stories of Nick's fandom.

[Jackie]

Is that, like, the quickest anyone's ever.

[KFC]

I can't imagine anybody did. I know Tracy McGrady once had, like, 13 points in, like, a minute. Yeah, that was crazy. But 8 and n is borderline impossible.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

But so the Knicks are. Have you been watching all the antics?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are, like, really hyped on it. I don't actually even fully have it in me to, like, bandwagon.

[Feitelberg]

Like, that's. That's a great way to, like, just describe sports.

[Jackie]

Like.

[KFC]

Yeah, you guys are really hyp. Jackie's a Yankees fan, by the way. What's that? Jackie's a Yankees fan?

[Jackie]

No, I'm not, but I just think, like, the Yankees are like. I just enjoy going to Yankees games much more than Matt's Games.

[KFC]

Sorry, ma' am. No one's ever said that before. No. First of all, like, you're just objectively wrong. Second of all, that's not allowed. I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing. Not my exact reaction.

[Jackie]

Exactly what I.

[KFC]

When, when it was the Knicks were playing game six and the Mets and Subway series had started, and so it was like a big deal. And I. And I was like, I told the kids, I was like, go get your, like some Knicks gear. Or. Or. Or I guess I just said, like, go put on gear for the games tonight. And Shay came down and because her mother insists on trying to wedge the Yankees into their lives, even though she doesn't really care, she comes down and she had a Mets jersey that was Lindor. And then someone had got her a Yankee Soto jersey. And she goes like, I don't know which one to wear. And I started laughing, being like, oh, she's with me. And she was like, because this one's the Mets, but this one says Soto. And I was like, oh, you're being serious. And I was. I treated her like a full grown adult in that moment. I wasn't like, oh, babe. I was like, go put that down. You're never allowed to wear that. And don't ever even consider bringing anything Yankees into my house ever again. Like, dead ass serious. Like, I am not around. She was kind of like, okay. But at first I was like, you're funny. Like, no, we would never do that. I can't even believe that anybody would.

[Feitelberg]

Even get you Yankee stuff at all in your life.

[KFC]

And. And she was being serious. Poor little confused girl.

[Jackie]

Just like, why did she care that said soda on it?

[KFC]

Like, why soda's on the Mets now. So she was, oh, so it's a Sodo jersey, but it's a Yankees jersey and I want to be like, actually bring that. We'll burn it. We'll set it on fire. You. So you're much like my daughter. Like, this is not allowed.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm not saying no.

[KFC]

I'm. This is a non negotiable. There can be no Yankee fans on my podcast. On our podcast.

[Jackie]

I just got a really good tub of chicken tenders at a Yankees game one time and like a soda bro.

[KFC]

Oh, so you're there for the food. Guess who was ranked number one in all of the. In all the entire country. Best ballpark food.

[Jackie]

Okay, well, I haven't.

[Feitelberg]

That was like, I kind of got you there.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, I wasn't saying I've like, tried all the Food at both. And, like, I. I'm just saying, one time I had a really good buzz. I had a tub of chicken tenders and fries, and I thought, this is living, man. This is living. And I was just sitting there, and I go, the Yankees rock. And, like, that's where I drew that. Whatever. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Not. Not because of. It was more just like, I fucking love America, dude. And so then I was kind of telling Pavs, like, hey, I like the Yankee. I like going to Yankees games. And maybe I did say more than Mets games. Like, maybe I didn't say it's better.

[KFC]

Than Mets, specifically more than Mets games.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, I guess I did say that because then I could kind of see it got a rise out of him, and I kind of want to lean into it. And, I mean, I am enjoying, honestly, the rise that it's getting out of you right now, too, if I'll be completely honest. But the point is that, like, I, I, I do at the end of the day, like, I'm a Mets fan, but, man, you should have seen that. Good.

[KFC]

I'm gonna send your dumb ass to Barstool at the ballpark where you can have all the beer you want, okay? Get your buzz.

[Jackie]

Oh, no, don't do that.

[KFC]

And, and you can eat all the food. You get the tub of chicken tenders. You get the fancy. And then you will never speak of this again.

[Jackie]

Okay?

[KFC]

You will never say this again.

[Jackie]

Deal.

[KFC]

I'm getting you your armpits. I, I, I give you this job, and this is how you repay me with this Yankees propaganda?

[Jackie]

I'm sorry.

[KFC]

I'm trying to think of something that you even care enough about for me to just take the opposite side of it just to bother you. And I can't even think of something. When I figure it out, I will.

[Jackie]

I truly, I truly.

[KFC]

I like your old nose better.

[Jackie]

I truly, like. It wasn't about. It was more just me, like, being like, america rocks and the Yankees just happened to be in my line of sight at the time, so.

[Feitelberg]

Yankee, Yankee, same. I will say this is a notoriously bad place to watch a game.

[KFC]

It's the worst. These are all just facts.

[Feitelberg]

If it feels like watching a game in a Walmart, like, everything's just.

[KFC]

Everything's just, like, gunmetal gray and, like, this big.

[Feitelberg]

All the lights are so fluorescent. It's terrible.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So. So the Yankees are, like, more considered, like, like, versus the Giants.

[KFC]

There's no, like, charm.

[Jackie]

The Giants, I guess you guys would know.

[KFC]

Like.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, but, like, the team Never mind.

[KFC]

So, like, I mean, I guess I would imagine the Giants are.

[Feitelberg]

The Giants?

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

No, I think the Giants are probably the Mets.

[KFC]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Yankees are the A's. Oakland.

[KFC]

So they want to. With the A's?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. Why.

[KFC]

Why would the Yankees be you? Are you room for the Yankees?

[Jackie]

No, I'm rooting for the Giants.

[Feitelberg]

Just to be clear, but by any standard, the Yankees would be the diametric opposite of the ace.

[KFC]

Yeah, they're literally like the, like.

[Jackie]

I'm losing this, like, train of thought a little bit.

[Feitelberg]

I don't.

[Jackie]

I don't really.

[Feitelberg]

The A's famously spend no money.

[Jackie]

Seriously.

[Feitelberg]

The Yankees spend a ton of money.

[Jackie]

Any team that gives me a tub of chicken.

[KFC]

It's just the chicken. Just the chicken. Oh, I went to the zoo. Oh, yeah?

[Jackie]

What animals did you see?

[KFC]

I saw them all. Name it, I'll tell you if I saw it.

[Feitelberg]

Did you get really sad?

[KFC]

No, dude.

[Feitelberg]

I got so depressed because they're, like, trapped, like. And I. I got sad. I'm surprised by how depressed I get. And I haven't met a lot, but I went. I went once in God. Roger Williams Park Zoo, which is a very small zoo. I went for, like, a November date, and me and the girl were both like, oh, this is sad.

[KFC]

Well, that Jews are probably. The Bronx Zoo, I think, is one of the biggest in the world.

[Feitelberg]

The Bronx is totally different. Yeah. But the. Then I went in Ireland with my nephew, who was probably one or two at the time, and he loved it. So that's what I thought was missing from the first thing.

[KFC]

Having, like, a little joy and wonder. Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

And. And he was like, look at that. And I was like, do you know how bad he wants to be?

[KFC]

I go back and forth though that, like, the birds I definitively feel bad for because they. There's a couple that were in, like, an AV area, I think they call it, that was like, a really big dome, and you could get your. You could get your wings on.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[KFC]

But the other ones are trapped in, like, a little room. And I was probably like, you can't imagine having wings. It's like, literally, the phrase is like, spread your wings and fly. And it's like, they can't.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

So that made me a little upset. But everybody else, I was like, I think these guys are living.

[Feitelberg]

Dude. Dude. We saw one, like, to swim in.

[KFC]

And, like, big area.

[Feitelberg]

But again, this is. The zoo I saw was not so small, but the one in Ireland, but, like, small. And the lions looked so sad, like, just moving slow. And I was like, but they always had. But like it's one of those things too. Someone who's there, like a zoologist, knows so much more about it than I do. And if they're like, they're actually really good. I'm like, all right.

[KFC]

What I noticed, and I don't know if this is a thing, but like the tiger, it was like a tiger.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

But I think they're kind of like solitary animals anyway, so they're not like thinking like, where's my. I thought they, I thought lions had like a pride, I would think, but I, I, maybe not. The bears were, the bears were great. You know, bears just dig like little holes kind of. They dig like not a hole, but they just dig like a little like, I don't know what you call it. And they just sit in it. And this one bear was on his back and he was like this, that's, he was like, I was like, I think that bear is like hungover or something. I really desperately. One of my favorite videos in the history of the Internet is the bear with the piece of bread.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Talking about.

[Jackie]

No.

[KFC]

Oh, it's the best. They're on like a safari, like a drive through safari. This bear is kind of sitting and he like puts his paw up and this guy takes a slice of Wonder Bread and frisbees it.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And he just catches it.

[Jackie]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

It's like my favorite video on the Internet. And I was like, oh, I wish I had it. Look at him, he's waving that. Is this real? Because like he waves for this bread like a. And then he just catches it. I don't even know if this is the one. Yeah, he catches it, no problem.

[Jackie]

Is this the same guy?

[KFC]

Yoink. To me, that's like the best video on the Internet. They, and they, they look just like these bears and they were just chilling. And I like the bears, the rhinoceroses. The rhinos were in like a not enclosed thing.

[Feitelberg]

Really.

[KFC]

It had like a wall like up to here.

[Feitelberg]

Was it electrified?

[KFC]

I don't, I don't know.

[Jackie]

Can they jump?

[KFC]

I would imagine that. I think they could have jumped over this. But apparently I learned, I thought rhinos were like, they, their skin is notoriously thin.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

So maybe they don't like around too much. Like, but I thought if there's something that should be enclosed, like with the thick glass, it should be a dinosaur. Like, I mean if that thing wanted to stampede, we're all, wait, am I.

[Jackie]

Crazy for not knowing that rhinos skin is thin?

[KFC]

No, no, no, no. I Think. I would think 99 of the world would assume that. You're saying you thought they were tough, right?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Yeah, I thought. I thought it was like, you know, you couldn't shoot it with a gun.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And they said it's actually. They're very. They put like, they worry about the sun. They get sunburns and like that. But I saw rhinos, I saw elephants, I saw tigers. Peacocks were just walking with us, like, on the street. They got out of, like, the. The area they were in, and they were just like. I was literally next to a peacock, like, right next to.

[Jackie]

I feel like I've brought this up a lot recently, so sorry if I've already, like, asked you guys this, but raccoons, they have their little hands.

[Feitelberg]

Uhhuh.

[Jackie]

And they have their thumbs. Do they. Are they like little thieves because they have thumbs, or did they develop little thumbs because they have the black candidates tendencies and they need their little thumbs to do that?

[Feitelberg]

I believe their thief like, tendencies are pre. Thumb. And this. All this information I have is from yp. YP once told me that if we had chosen to domesticate raccoons rather than dogs, we wouldn't know the difference. I don't know.

[KFC]

I think raccoons. I wish we did. Raccoons are cute. Like, they would. It would be awesome if they were just chilling in your house. You know, I saw a red panda.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[KFC]

It's kind of like a raccoon, but it's like, red.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Wait, I have this conversation before. Continue.

[KFC]

And it was. Went on the monorail. So we went through Asia on the monorail. And it was just one, like, one of them. That was the only thing I would say is they. There was a lot of. That seemed to be like, we got one here. And I was like, that seems like you want to be with your buddies. But he was just sleeping on this, like, little, like, platform that was really close to the monorail. And it was just like. They were like, you'll see him coming up. He's napping right now. And everyone went bonkers for this guy who was just chilling on a platform, snoozing. That thing's cute as fuck.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like, if I could have one of those. Hell yeah. I saw ostriches and giraffes. How long do you think a giraffe's tongue is? Give me inches.

[Jackie]

12.

[Feitelberg]

18.

[KFC]

On fire.

[Feitelberg]

Bless you.

[KFC]

18 inches.

[Feitelberg]

18.

[KFC]

What? He nailed the exact number.

[Jackie]

I saw that.

[KFC]

He's on fire. I was about to say, you're gonna get this right, because you're on a hot streak. It was only one.

[Jackie]

Wait, that's really weird.

[Feitelberg]

Dozen.

[KFC]

Yeah, you're in dozen mode. But, yeah, I saw. We saw, like, every animal you could have.

[Jackie]

What, does it curl up a little bit? Like they fit all in.

[KFC]

It's probably also, like, from here.

[Jackie]

Oh, they have long necks.

[Feitelberg]

Oh, yeah. You start to get measuring like that. I'm. I'm for that.

[KFC]

But I do, right?

[Feitelberg]

Your tongue goes from my. To the tip.

[KFC]

Yo.

[Feitelberg]

It kind of is, though.

[KFC]

I mean, you ever feel, like, underneath it, like, it goes back there? Dude, you know what I'm talking about.

[Feitelberg]

How big your dick. We talking draft measuring or regular.

[KFC]

External or internal draft?

[Feitelberg]

Inches.

[KFC]

What else did they see? I saw elephants just throwing dirt up onto their back with their. With their trunk.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Just stay out of the sun. All these. All these animals worried about the sun. You would think that animals could.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's kind of like how, like, pigs don't have sweat glands, but they're always rolling in dirt. And it's kind of like, I don't know if raccoons can develop thumbs.

[Feitelberg]

Did they.

[KFC]

You said that, like, very confidently. Like, do they used to not have thumbs?

[Jackie]

That was what he said.

[Feitelberg]

Oh, I don't know. I. I know. I. I all. I all yp. I bet you taught me was there. They have a disposition that if we had chosen to domesticate them, it would be totally normal.

[KFC]

They do not have thumbs. So we're just wrong in general.

[Jackie]

What?

[KFC]

I think they just have, like, five fingers. Five fingers that can all. But they don't have, like, a thumb.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. I didn't know that.

[KFC]

You know, I went into the butterfly garden, and it's, like, holding them on my fingers and stuff. I was king of the butterfly.

[Jackie]

Really?

[KFC]

Yeah. That happened once.

[Jackie]

Did you see armadillos? I feel like that's. No, I didn't see armadillos.

[KFC]

Snakes. We. We went by, like, the. The reptile, like, place, but we didn't end up going in, so.

[Jackie]

Haven't told you guys about mantis shrimp?

[KFC]

Mantis shrimp?

[Jackie]

Yeah. Lots of things about mantis shrimp. I don't know if I'm gonna know what that is.

[KFC]

Gonna get a picture, please get it.

[Jackie]

Yeah, they're one of the most interesting creatures. They, first of all, like, they're studied by, like, the government, like, the CIA, because they are trying to replicate the, like, the shell. The armor that, like, their shell is.

[KFC]

Like, crazy strong, but it's strong.

[Jackie]

Their punch is like.

[Feitelberg]

Oh, you've talked about.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I've Talked about this. Yeah. It creates, like, a vortex in the. They're punched, literally because it's so fast. They can't, like, keep them in tanks because they, like, will just break the glass and also, like, destroy anything else in the tank with them.

[KFC]

Right, it can break through glass with its punch.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're, like, crazy strong. Something about, like, their armor, too.

[KFC]

Like, but, like, they're strong for their size. Or, like, they can break.

[Jackie]

No, no. Like, like, they would. That would knock out.

[KFC]

Would they knock. They would, like, knock a human out? No, no. You're telling me I can't take a punch from a shrimp? I could. That shrimp. I could kill that shrimp. What do you.

[Feitelberg]

What are you. You're arguing a shrimp would punch us.

[Jackie]

If you got in a tank with it? Yeah, if you like.

[KFC]

I think I could withstand a punch from this shrimp.

[Feitelberg]

Yes. He. If he would punch me. That's one thing. You're saying he would hurt me?

[KFC]

I mean, if he could break glass.

[Jackie]

Okay. I think it would be more kind of like a bullet thing where since he's small, it would. But it would puncture you for sure.

[KFC]

Can a mantis shrimp injury human? Can a mantis shrimp punch injury? I think this is idiotic, but.

[Jackie]

You for sure would be like, oh, I shouldn't have done that.

[KFC]

Yeah, definitely can definitely hurt humans. Powerful. Well, claws.

[Jackie]

No, no.

[KFC]

Incapable of shattering shells. Even glass can inflict serious injuries if they strike a human. These injuries include lacerations, cuts, and potentially bone fractures. Cuts, cuts. And I can understand. But bone fractures?

[Jackie]

Yeah, look up, look up.

[KFC]

Like, punched your finger. Yes, it would hurt, but wouldn't necessarily break skin. If you're not brave. This strip up.

[Feitelberg]

That's such a huge leap from potentially bone fractures to, like, I don't know. Traditionally, it won't break your skin.

[Jackie]

No, like, again, this is. The thing with the Internet is, like, you can't. It says everything. Yeah, it says everything in anything.

[KFC]

Well, yeah, we just found one that said it could break your bones.

[Jackie]

We have to get a mantle.

[KFC]

I mean, I would be down to let a. I'll go in the ring with a mantis shrimp.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you're really like, you. You don't like these mantis shrimp already?

[KFC]

I just don't like you saying that a man should beat me up. I think that you would be like.

[Jackie]

They'Re studied by the government.

[KFC]

Wait, wait a minute. What are these injuries? Palm left with a scar by a mantis. But again, claws are very different. A crab can break your skin, like.

[Jackie]

But they also have, like, 20.

[KFC]

Look at that other little finger. It's a little cut.

[Feitelberg]

Like, we get a mantis rip in here and be like, all right, no pinching. You gotta punch. You gotta punch.

[Jackie]

I think that we should. We should get a mantis shrimp, put it in a tank with another, like, mantis shrimp, and see if they fight.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, but you know what just came to my head when you said that? Is, Is Edward Saverin, and. I don't know.

[KFC]

Eduardo Saver.

[Feitelberg]

Eduardo from Facebook. Yeah. Remember when he got in all this trouble for feeding eggs to a chicken?

[KFC]

I don't. What?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. From Facebook.

[Feitelberg]

Yes.

[KFC]

He fed eggs to a chicken.

[Feitelberg]

He fed.

[KFC]

He got in trouble.

[Feitelberg]

Part of, like, the. They're not frats, but the houses at Harvard. He was rushing a house, and part of it was like, he had to keep a chicken safe, and he had it in the dining hall and was just feeding it. He didn't. He didn't think he was a dumb college kid. And he, like, was just feeding what he was eating, and he was eating eggs.

[KFC]

Okay.

[Feitelberg]

So then the Harvard newspaper did an article on him that he was. It was forced cannibalism. And then Zuckerberg used that to kick him out of Facebook. Yeah, but, but so if you were like, your Jackie becomes the person who's like, she's making shrimp eat each other, bro.

[Jackie]

No, but I'm not making them eat each other. Because I'm just saying I'm putting. I'm. They're friends. I'm putting two friends in a tank.

[Feitelberg]

Together, and if they kill each other, that's on them.

[Jackie]

I know a little. I know a little bit.

[KFC]

You guys are friends now. I, I. If Eduardo Savin murdered Mark Zuckerberg, I, I would. If I was in the jury, I would ride for him.

[Feitelberg]

That's what. That's what the social network's about. He's suing him for that.

[KFC]

I knew that, but I didn't know. I, I don' Chicken thing.

[Feitelberg]

And he.

[KFC]

That is, like, if I lost out on, like, literally billions because I gave.

[Feitelberg]

I think he ended up getting it.

[KFC]

He did.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. His name was restored to the masthead after this lawsuit.

[KFC]

Okay.

[Feitelberg]

And he's crazy rich. He has become an expat. He's renounced his American citizenship, and he lives in Singapore now, so he doesn't have to pay taxes.

[KFC]

He's a guy who I like. He is Andrew Garfield in my life. Yeah, I, I'm sure I've seen the real one before, but I cannot picture him. Him at all.

[Jackie]

One thing that, like, I always think about from that scene is when he's just like. I don't even think he says. He just implies it. And he's like, well, I put it in their heads now. Like, you can't take that away. Something about, like. I don't know the exact quote, but his point was, like, too late. It's too late because it's already planted in their heads. They already have a view about you.

[KFC]

Yeah, well, that's like juries, I always think, when it. When they're like, strike the record.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

No, bro. Yeah, no, it's in. It's not stricken.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Yeah, but so the zoo is. The zoo is. You know, I'm not really a zoo guy, you know, but the Bronx. No, no, no, no. But I'm just saying, like, if. You know, it's not my first choice, but, like, I also. We. I think we take for granted, like, the Bronx Zoo is just bonkers that. It's like. It was crazy. I'm on the monorail and, like, I look this way and we're in Asia, and there's elephants. And then, quite literally, if you look to the other side, it's like the Bronx River Parkway and, like, apartment buildings and, like, you know, junkyards. And it's like, how. How is this possible that there's just, like, this, you know, haven in the middle of. Of the hood that is probably worth, like, jillions of dollars, you know, I can't even imagine how much. Oh, you know what else? There was the. A fake. This is such a racket. It was a dinosaur safari walk with animatronic dinosaurs. I was like, this is just. This is like, the next. This is where we're headed as a society. You're on, like, a virtual reality tour. It's like, this is not real. This is not real.

[Jackie]

They gotta be close to remaking a dinosaur, right?

[KFC]

Well, then it's funny. Like, I. I looked at the rhinos. I was like, that's a dinosaur. That's a dinosaur. You know? Yeah, it's got horns and it's like.

[Feitelberg]

Apparently it's 100.

[KFC]

That's where it's funny, though, because everyone's like, well, we've learned that dinosaurs are more like birds. But I was like, okay. But, like, that's like a rhino.

[Feitelberg]

You know what I mean, Stephen. Steven Spielberg's Earth. This is what dinosaurs look like.

[KFC]

I actually think that I. I've kind of asked this question before. Like, what do you think we are wrong about in, like, science? Because it's, you know, there's Always things that science was like, this is true. And then you find out, no, the Earth is not the center of the universe. And you look like a fucking idiot. I. We just can't be right about dinosaurs.

[Feitelberg]

What do you mean?

[KFC]

It's just like, it was so long ago, and I know that we have fossils and we can piece these things together a little bit, but it's just like, how the. Can you really say anything with certainty that happened a hundred million years ago, you know?

[Feitelberg]

I don't think you can say it with certainty, but you can say they existed.

[KFC]

No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying they didn't exist.

[Feitelberg]

You can say what they did or.

[KFC]

What they look like, but, like. And I think they've. They, They've found that, like, you know, they had more like, wings, like, structures, whatever, but, like. So maybe this has now been corrected. There ain't no way that a T. Rex had little baby arms.

[Jackie]

Yeah, they just.

[KFC]

That doesn't make any sense to me.

[Feitelberg]

But they have the bones.

[KFC]

But they, I think they were, like, parts that. What they learned was like, that's like a thing, a wing sticking out.

[Feitelberg]

Oh, okay.

[KFC]

He turns it into, like these little arms that.

[Feitelberg]

When you look at it, what does the wing do?

[KFC]

I. I think they were more bird like. No, but I, I think they were. This is what I mean, though. Like, like the hookups, those things don't. That wouldn't exist. They do literally nothing.

[Feitelberg]

But I mean, like.

[Jackie]

Well, it's also like, if you, if you take a dog, like, skeleton and you would put skin over it, it looks like a dinosaur too. But, like, based on, like, they're not counting for, like, all the fat and all the. It's like, like, look up, like, dog skeleton, dinosaur. I don't know. This might not be a good point.

[KFC]

I've never heard this one before.

[Jackie]

Yeah, so it's like, you know, dogs.

[KFC]

Are basically dinosaurs, but.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I mean, you know, like, anything can look like a dinosaur.

[KFC]

I think once you find out that they're like, oh, well, they actually had feathers. Oh, they actually had wings. Like, I don't know. It sounds like we were pretty wrong. Our first guess seems to be really far off. If we thought they were reptiles with arms and it turns out they're birds with feathers and wings, I don't think that's that different.

[Feitelberg]

Like, like, we found the bones. First of all, I don't think any of us know what we're talking about.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Feitelberg]

Like, we're just looking at Google images going, that couldn't happen.

[KFC]

But that's what I mean. I don't think anybody knows what they're talking about.

[Feitelberg]

I think people who study it know what they're talking about.

[Jackie]

Probably people who devote their whole life to it.

[KFC]

I, I just don't. I think there's just a limit on what you can figure out from 100 million years ago. And some bones.

[Feitelberg]

And I think those people, if you speak to them, would go. We're not really sure. Yeah. What we think is Right, right, right.

[KFC]

I just think that, like, you know, I'm sure there were. There were paleontologists, like, 30 years ago who were like, these things are reptiles. And now there's ones that are like, no, they were birds. And it's like, well, then what's the next. Like, I think we're just gonna keep figuring out more about it.

[Feitelberg]

I, I don't think any of that means wrong, though. I think, like, it just takes, like. We weren't wrong about things. We just don't know it yet.

[KFC]

Yeah. That's more my question is always like, what, what are we gonna, like, figure out? Was, like, cool. We were Samsonite. We were way off, you know, because there's just even, like, the, the. So what they, they, they, they, they found, like, the. Was the Yucatan Peninsula has, like, a thing that looks like a, A meteor hit. Right.

[Feitelberg]

Rings a bell.

[KFC]

And it's like, I, I just feel like they, you know, you kind of, like, piece together a story that's like.

[Feitelberg]

I don't, I just don't know.

[KFC]

How do you figure out anything that happened 100 million years ago?

[Feitelberg]

I, I don't know.

[KFC]

Like, don't you think that there's probably. There's some, like, if it was me, and I'm in, like, the paleontology world, right? Early on or whenever it first started, like, once technology started. Like, I think if you just say anything with enough confidence.

[Feitelberg]

But I think I, I, I don't know. I think people who are studying these things are trying to find the answer. Here's the best we got.

[KFC]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

I'm not saying they're lying, but I'm just saying that, like, I think, as you know what, she's the girl on the tour of these fake dinosaurs said because it was a part, it was a portion they called new dinosaurs. They're like, these are all dinosaurs found in the last year. And she said there's a new species of dinosaur being, like, uncovered every two weeks.

[Feitelberg]

That's crazy. Crazy.

[KFC]

It's like, how many, how many are there? So I'm like, dinosaur people they get a new one every two weeks. Yeah, right. Oh, new dinosaur just dropped. It just seems like, you know, it's like, what if the one we find out the next two weeks like undoes everything we learned about other. Maybe I'm a dinosaur truther.

[Jackie]

Narwhals are not a thing anymore.

[KFC]

Yeah, they're not a thing. Like they're extinct, are they?

[Jackie]

Are they extinct? Are they?

[KFC]

That's the one with them. Narwhal. Oh, are they, they're not real. No, they're real. The ones with the horn, right? Yeah, they, I mean they're ridiculous looking.

[Jackie]

I ran out of all my like girly podcasts. I was listening to Mad Chains and they were saying that there's this dolphin and like they're this like woman who like worked with dolphins and she would like jerk the dolphins off and then they like were like, hey, you can't do that anymore. So then she like had to leave the dolphins and then he killed himself.

[KFC]

You can't take away my hand jobs. Dolphins are like kinky weirdos.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

They rape. They, they do all sorts.

[Feitelberg]

I think that's a famous documentary. No, it's an octopus. Right? Didn't the guy octopus.

[KFC]

Yeah, something like that.

[Feitelberg]

It was a famous documentary where like a guy. Oh, and Owen likes it. He's always like, there's, there's something there.

[KFC]

For like, for you guys.

[Feitelberg]

He, he had talked about doing a sketch about it years ago.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

But it's, it's, it was some guy who filmed some document. I, I don't know, you'll have to Google it.

[KFC]

But yeah, I mean there's all sorts of tales of both dinosaurs and, or that's the other thing. You're gonna run into octopus real quick and run into the Asian stuff.

[Feitelberg]

Could have given you a warning on that one.

[KFC]

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[Feitelberg]

Who are west coast rappers? Who would he be?

[KFC]

You're not gonna know any of these guys. Ray Vaughan is a big one. Daylight Joey Badass. Yeah, I don't know any of his.

[Feitelberg]

Music, but I know.

[KFC]

So Joey Badass, he became more of a, of a actor. If I have my facts right.

[Feitelberg]

He's Molly Obama.

[KFC]

Malia what, used to date him?

[Feitelberg]

No, but she like, took a picture in like his sweatshirt during the pandemic. And it was, it was an issue.

[KFC]

But so, so this all started. This is actually really, I, I, I find it fascinating. Big Sean, Joey Badass. And who's the other one on, on the Cipher?

[Feitelberg]

Oh, it wasn't during the pandemic was 2015. Everything was during the pandemic. In my head.

[KFC]

There was this, there was like a freestyle. He was like T Mobile, like presents like a, a freestyle or something like that. And these guys had a very friendly, like, back and forth kind of. He was just like. The one line was like, joey, you put me in a predicament. And I had to defend my syndicate where it was like, you're, you're talking about the West Coast. I'm a West coast guy. I got to defend myself. And it was everyone's kind of like, oh, this is like a good, this is just like friendly hip hop battle, you know? And then over the next like Seven Days, I think 10 songs came out. It was crazy. And I'm sure it's all these guys. It's very interesting. Like, I'm sure they all saw what happened with Drake and, and Kendrick. Like, if I can get in on A piece of that. Like, let's do it, you know? Yeah, but. So all these guys. Daylight's like a famous battle rapper Ray Vaughn, I. I was not familiar with, but he put out a song. It's got Az Chike Cheek came out with a song. And then Joey Badass was basically like, taking them all on by himself and just put out a heater. And everyone was like, joey packed up the whole west coast in like, one song, which has got to be the coolest feeling in the world.

[Feitelberg]

That's going to be sick.

[KFC]

So sick. And now. So now he's calling out Kendrick. He was like, someone call the General because I'm killing all his troops. And, like, I'm the real boogeyman. Like, where's Kendrick come out to play all this? That's like. Because he's probably like, if I can get Kendrick to respond, then we're really good, you know, so it's kind of like, you know, it's. It's. I don't want to say it's not. It's not phony, because it's. It is, you know, it's real. But I think a lot of these guys are doing this with dollar signs and. And popularity in their mind or whatever. But Kendrick's on, you know, this world tour right now. Everyone's kind of calling this the G League. Like, this is like the second tier. It's like, why would he play in the G League when he's like an all star? But. But it's, you know, for. For an old man like me who. It is funny to me when. When people are in like a battle or something serious and they need like a song, they always go to like, old school sound. Rap. Yeah. You know, it's like if that's what you do, you. You pick the beat and you rap in a way that is like older, quote, unquote old rap. When you need to prove. Win the battle, whatever, then why don't you just fucking do it all the time? Because it's not part. It's not party music. Not everything's a goddamn party. Also, the party music sucks. It was party. There's been plenty of party songs that were. That sounded, you know. Yeah, there's a reason why all those DJs and shit who are playing for parties still play like that early 2000s, mid 2000s type music. No, I mean, when you guys are. I love watching. Is it new shit or old shit?

[Jackie]

But it's not like rap.

[KFC]

It's not rap. Rap just sell out. What is it, Pop? It's pot. It's like every single pop girl. And then it's like some like remixes of like early 2000s music. Yeah, yeah, like, like, you know, I'm trying. Like when we were going out, it would be like Diddy music or Jay Z's pop hits. Like that sounds like the best Nelly. That sounds like a ton of fun. Oh, you like going out to like early 2000s R B must be awesome. Dude, it was awesome. I just think about like, I mean, we used to dance. Like I can't imagine. I mean, I'm sure you guys do too now, but it's just like we used to be like, let's go to the bar. And there would be like enough of a party like set from the DJ that like the crowd would be going wild for like your favorite song. Oh, I wouldn't experience that in like 80s pop music, like at the time, if that makes sense. Like I'd love to go out like when ABBA was popping. Yeah, that sounds fun. Yeah.

[Jackie]

But I would say it's more fun to go out now than it was like five years ago because I think like the pop. The pop girls have made it like you can sing along to the songs.

[KFC]

Like who?

[Jackie]

Well, I guess. Okay, well, like it's like all the Sabrina Carpenter songs. Yeah, all that. Like everyone knows them. Whereas. But also, I would say 2000s, like had really good or like 25 years ago. 2016 probably had like the peak.

[KFC]

I saw a list of earlier today that said the top. These are the top 30 rap albums from 1998. Just one year. And the first 10 were all like classics. One year had like 10 all time rap albums. That's like 2016 for us. What was that? It was like Uzi, Drake, Weekend, Kendrick, every single big dog like took had like their best album that year.

[Feitelberg]

You ever heard the pop song 2003?

[KFC]

Is that the one where they use all the words of like other songs? Yeah, yeah. Is that DJ Earworm or is like.

[Feitelberg]

Someone else made their own song artist? It's.

[Jackie]

Yeah, the girl.

[KFC]

Yeah, it's great. It's. It's very clever.

[Feitelberg]

And it's like, how does that work? You have to clear like baby one more time and that's it. I forget what it is is, but.

[Jackie]

Oh, I would actually. I'm. I'm definitely in search of new music. I would like everybody to comment. One. Just one. I don't want to like go through like whole library. Just one song that you feel really strongly about that I'm gonna like Jack Lily.

[Feitelberg]

No, Rosemary Rose Lily Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts.

[Jackie]

Okay. Is that your one?

[Feitelberg]

Yes. I've been on a big Bob Dylan kick. I watch Complete Unknown and I just put it on all the time now. I think I like Bob Dylan. I think I. Because it's. He's more talking than singing, and I can listen to it. And it's not as fast as rap. I can't keep up with rap. There's not too much noise.

[KFC]

That was the whitest thing ever since.

[Feitelberg]

I met Was rock music. The rap was too fast. Noise is rock, folk music. Just a man in the guitar. That's my. Right there.

[Jackie]

Chris Stapleton. I'm on.

[KFC]

Oh, that. I. I feel like the country is the big, like, X factor. That kind of changed things. Like, rap faded out. Pop always just pop. The country kind of replaced rap. Yeah, in that sense. See, Zach Brian sold his catalog for 350.

[Feitelberg]

He what?

[KFC]

He sold his catalog for 350 million already? Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

No.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

I thought Bieber just sold his for 200. Yeah, well, how's that possible?

[KFC]

I don't know. And also, part of me would say, like, why did you do that? But also, if you. If it's just your old stuff and you can keep going, like, yeah, but.

[Feitelberg]

How could Zach Brian's catalog possibly be double Bieber's?

[KFC]

I know, I know. 350 is no joke, but to do that at this stage is. Is a lot.

[Feitelberg]

There has to be something I'm missing. Zach Brian can't possibly have double the worth.

[KFC]

The only thing I would possibly think. And I'll get my tinfoil hat on this one, is did you see that report that Bieber's in, like, financial trouble?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, but you don't take a $200 billion, $200 million deal on that saying.

[KFC]

Maybe if you're in trouble and you need money and, like, the label or whoever's negotiating for it knows it, but.

[Feitelberg]

Like, even that negotiation, you can't have a $200 million window.

[KFC]

What do you mean, $200 million window? What?

[Feitelberg]

Well, just Brian got 350. He got 200. Like, if you're like, all right, we need it, but, like, 100, that's such a big discount.

[KFC]

I'm with you, man. None of it makes sense, but it's. It's. It's real. Unless, like, maybe Bieber didn't sell.

[Feitelberg]

There's got to be something fine. Like, like, it's Zach's All Music. I don't know.

[KFC]

Obviously, that was my question, was if. If you just own Zach Brian in perpetuity, then, like, maybe but if it's just like you get his the first. Well, I mean it's been like five years, would you say?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, but Beaver's 20.

[KFC]

No, that's what I'm saying. So like if you, if, if this was only like Brian's five years of music for 350 and then you can do another five and another five. Another five. Like.

[Feitelberg]

Holy.

[KFC]

And that makes me think like if Zach Brian did that, I mean Taylor Swift would be able to sell it for like multi billions.

[Feitelberg]

I would, I would guess she never would though now.

[KFC]

Yeah, especially that's all, you know, you don't need to. It's a, it's a strange move. Like, I mean 350is. I guess if I continued, if I owned the rights to continue to make my own music and someone offered me 350, I would say wait.

[Feitelberg]

Beaver sold in 2023. In January, 2023.

[KFC]

Variety. I think that news like just, just came up.

[Feitelberg]

It's, it's certainly been in the, in discussion lately.

[KFC]

But that, you know, it might just be that the news that he's in financial trouble and they, they said that.

[Feitelberg]

Like if you're in financial trouble you need like rent for the month. Yeah, yeah. You're not like I'll sell, I'll take 150 million dollar hit.

[KFC]

Dude. They, I mean they, they. The report was that he blew through anywhere between five and a billion. 500 million and a billion really, which is like. But I, you know, I was trying to think of it like if you. He's been making money but he's also had probably like bills and since he was like 12. You know what I mean?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

So you saw a record in 10 a long time. That's, that's. I think the main thing is like he canceled his world tour.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Somebody actually DM me. I don't know if this is, you know, it's gossip or whatever, but it was like he took out a loan to like cover the advance that he like lost for the world tour or whatever. But like, you know, all of this is obviously crazy, crazy hearsay and conjecture. But it's like, you know, there's a lot of talk about him struggling and then if you don't make any money and you are spending money on Lord knows what. I don't know, it's. It, it seems incomprehensible but you know, you start playing in that league.

[Feitelberg]

My, my, the. What I find in comprehensal isn't is isn't that Bieber ran out of money. It's That I don't understand how Zach Brian's catalog could ever be worth 150 million more.

[KFC]

It might just be the country like wave right now, but pop is always.

[Jackie]

Maybe honestly just like if he did it in 2023, just inflation also I.

[Feitelberg]

Would say that much. We're talking about double the thing if you're a beaver. Here's the thing about 50 million.

[KFC]

Here's the thing about beeves that I don't know. I think I'm just throwing this out there. Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. We could see if we could. I think a lot of Biebs hits are not his. Like Despacito was like a big song. It's not his.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

And I think like that Skrillex song is not his. And I'm sure you get like money for it, but you know, I don't.

[Feitelberg]

Sorry, is it too late?

[KFC]

No, that's him. Right? And so if you think about like his hits, it's like not. I don't think it's as many as like you think, you know, even that maybe that's with Kid Laroi. So he like co owns it. I don't know how a lot of that works, but I don't know if his catalog is what you would you expect it to be.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Given like how popular he is.

[Feitelberg]

But still, like, I don't. I don't really care what Bieber's net worth is. I just mean how could Zach Brian be worth 150 million more?

[Jackie]

Even like name. I don't know name recognition wise, like Justin Bieber's.

[Feitelberg]

I get. Yeah.

[KFC]

There also might be a world where we. We're just underestimating like you know, the middle America, like football fan that you know, there's just. But it's also many of them that.

[Feitelberg]

It'S not even just Bieber like Springsteen sold his recently. Bowie sold his recently. I don't think they were 350.

[KFC]

Can you Google like most valuable music catalog sales? You see, sir mix a lot owned all the publishing to baby got back said he made a hundred million dollars off that song. He's like. I think someone made a comment about him him like his money and he was like, I'm good, bro. I've been living and eating off of that. So let's see. Queen sold. Wait, what is that what they so report. Oh, wow. So Queen sold for more than. Wait, Queen sold their catalog for $1.2 billion.

[Jackie]

What?

[Feitelberg]

That doesn't surprise me.

[KFC]

It does surprise me that Michael Jackson was only half that.

[Feitelberg]

Oh yes, that does Surprise me.

[KFC]

Yeah, but you know what, that might be something like We Will Rock youk and We Are the Champions alone. Oh. Like you play that at every stadium. You play that in every commercial. So that's also what I mean about like Bieber is like some of these songs might not quite be like. It's like, yeah, that was a hip. We don't really have use for that.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Whereas like if I own We Are the Champions every.

[Feitelberg]

But you're not buying, like who's buying that? Like, like, like Gillette Stadium isn't buying it.

[KFC]

I think it's usually like a equity, like a, like a investment firm.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

You know, but I also just don't understand when you own something like, like, does it get reported every time you play that? I've always heard like you play that in an arena, I got like a few bucks. It's like, how does anybody know and how does that. Or do you play? Like, like Madison Square Garden pays a flat rate.

[Feitelberg]

That's what it is.

[KFC]

And then you can play that song whenever you want.

[Feitelberg]

Bars play the same. Pay the same flat rate.

[KFC]

But then, but, but to get that they're like factoring in, you're gonna play the song forever. So we're gonna charge, you know, a decent amount.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah. I think as I understand it, bars pay like. It's like a Spotify type thing.

[KFC]

What do you mean with bars?

[Feitelberg]

Like bars pay the same. It's not obviously not the same rate, but like MSG to play.

[KFC]

Like, like if a bar has like a DJ there, there's. Or you talk about like if it's like touch tunes and it's like in your system or something.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, I just remember talking to Scotty about it. There's like some payment you make to a company that then they record what you played. So like you're hitting their system. So they know such a. I mean.

[KFC]

There'S a whole world of that that you don't even.

[Feitelberg]

Jack has got a solution. Copyright free bars.

[Jackie]

I do have my bar. I'm always going over the bar idea. But it's, it's a bar idea. It's a bar and it.

[KFC]

Sorry, Jackie just stroked out there and.

[Jackie]

It, it's like it plays like a royalty free music. And then you can like all the celebrities and like reality stars go and party there so that you can film freely and like Tick Tockers go like Barstool would love it. You know, you can go film freely there. You can have an argument in the bar and not have to like take it out.

[KFC]

Why Would people go to this bar, though?

[Jackie]

They wouldn't, but then it would make celebrities want to go there even more. Because commoners wouldn't want to go to this.

[Feitelberg]

And that would make commoners want to go full of celebrities.

[KFC]

Y. But celebrities don't want their show.

[Feitelberg]

I'm saying that's, I'm saying.

[KFC]

Wait, you're saying celebrities want to go to a place where they can get filmed and post. Like influencers, I guess, influencers.

[Jackie]

And, and reality stars.

[KFC]

So you get like, you get some tik tok stars. Like, I'm going to go there so that I can. But all those people post the music anyway. I was going to say there's companies run into.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, but, but okay, so reality stars is really where it's at. Like.

[KFC]

It'S like just us. There is part of me I really still like, no, this is not your idea. This is more, this is more like I, I, I have my tinfoil hat on. When it comes to YouTube and Barstool. I just think they don't like us or something.

[Feitelberg]

Why?

[KFC]

Because there's just like, we're big on YouTube but not like, as big as we should be. You know what I mean? I think they're pushing the buttons and pulling the levers, like, block us. Like, it's, it's like there are just people who have, like, monster ch that just have never had even close to the amount of influence that some of the people.

[Feitelberg]

Why would they not like Barstool?

[KFC]

Probably because Dave told them to go themselves. Well, it was more Google, remember? Like, there's a story about, like, Google wanted a meeting with, with like, Barstool. And Dave was like, I don't need this. And I remember hearing, I don't even know how I heard this, like, through the grapevine, whatever, like Game of Telephone. It was something like there was a note, like, left, like, at Google that was like, do not contact Barstool until, like, they come to us sort of thing. And almost like, like, we're not gonna work with Barcelona until, like, Day Porto apologizes to us. But like, I, I just, I don't know, it just seems crazy to me that, like, there are certainly successful people at Barstool, at YouTube, on YouTube. But it seems like there's a very big disconnect in my mind between, like, every other platform that we've like, gone into. It's pretty immediate. You know what I mean? If it's like, go follow us here. Like, everybody does it.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like subscribers on YouTube, it just does not translate. I mean, they support Just the fan base or whatever, but it just seems unlikely to me that nothing hits the same way it does on all these other platforms.

[Feitelberg]

But I. I don't know. Also, when was the Google thing? I would imagine that, like, they've had turnover a hundred times now.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that the main thing is it's everywhere else. You can curse and you can say kind of whatever you want to an extent. YouTube is like, absolutely not most of the time. And I think every single podcast at Barstool is vulgar. Yeah, I guess so. But, like, there are popular podcasts on YouTube and you're telling me none of them are cursing? Yeah, yeah. I don't think what you're saying is completely like. I think that there's definitely a possibility. Yeah.

[Feitelberg]

Like, I mean, YouTube's keeping us down, I think, though.

[KFC]

And also, like, all Barstool, All Barstool channels are connected. Like, there's all, like, they all are linked to Barstool main. Yeah. So it's like you can just fit. You can't even fake it. If it's attached to Barstool, then they know it's part of Barstool. So I'm not totally against it. Also, I'm not totally blaming this.

[Feitelberg]

But.

[KFC]

It is funny that, like, our Instagram is like one of the biggest in the world. Tick Tock. Is the biggest. Is the biggest in the world. And then like, Twitter is. And it's like, I know we don't use it the right way, I was.

[Feitelberg]

Gonna say, but we make stuff for Instagram and Tik Tok. Yeah, we don't make anything for YouTube.

[Jackie]

Podcasts.

[Feitelberg]

Podcasts aren't for you. I guess they kind of are.

[KFC]

That's what I mean. Like, everybody else's are. It's like you find these random podcasts. That is like 2 million subscribers. Like, what? Like, I wouldn't be shocked if we found out years later that Google was like, we were you guys all the time. It's on the table. Put it that way. On the table.

[Jackie]

My, like, another song thought idea that I had if I were to like. So Caroline was saying, I think she makes like. She was like, it's not that much, but I probably make like a thousand a year from, like, her songs. If I were to put out a song and I like, every day before I leave, I put it on all the computers and I play it overnight. Just replay, replay, replay. I feel like that would give me some good, like, lunch money.

[Feitelberg]

I. I think you're right on that.

[Jackie]

Right?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I was just like, hey, guys, like, just during this podcast, can we just replay my song over and over and over again?

[Feitelberg]

I think you should do that, but.

[KFC]

I think, like, I should do that.

[Feitelberg]

I think you should definitely do that.

[KFC]

Yeah. You know what? I think you would make, like, hundreds of thousands of dollars if you did this. Don't know. She would be super rich, because, notoriously, we know that Spotify definitely pays people a lot of money.

[Jackie]

I think it's actually. I think it's actually more than we think. Again, I'm not trying to get. To get rich off this. I'm just saying, like, lunch money here and there. Like, I think I could do it.

[KFC]

But you got to make a song.

[Jackie]

I know. I probably go more the Bob Dylan route because I don't like saying talking. Maybe I'll put a little. A little diddy or a little peep. Yeah. A little, like, beat behind it. But I kind of feel like I could just. It would just be some extra change in my pocket in a worse, Like, I. I make a song.

[KFC]

I want you to make a song.

[Feitelberg]

I'll make you a promise. I will play that song at least one time a day for a year.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Feitelberg]

Yes.

[KFC]

What kind of song? I mean, we know you have the voice of, like, an angel.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Yeah, I know. That's why it's, like, you need to.

[KFC]

Get in the booth.

[Jackie]

How would I even get in a booth? I don't even.

[KFC]

I don't even need a boot.

[Feitelberg]

I believe we literally have a booth 30 right down there.

[KFC]

Yes. And you. And we. We have, like, songwriters here.

[Jackie]

But I think.

[KFC]

I think if you go tell Caroline right now you want to make a song, she'll make a song with you for sure.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. Nick Hamilton would definitely, like, help me out too. Do you guys want to, like, give me any. Have I also showed you, like, can I just read some of.

[Feitelberg]

What about a song about. Wait, Jackie. We've made the song during this episode.

[Jackie]

Titson.

[Feitelberg]

No.

[KFC]

Oh, I do like that, though.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Tits, Pits, and Lips is a great song.

[Feitelberg]

We talked about one particular genre of music that's been really hot for a few years now. Country music. We also talked about my dad's law enforcement, where Jackie had. When you were at Yankee Stadium, and.

[KFC]

You were like, this is America right now.

[Jackie]

America.

[KFC]

Can you make a song called Bucket of Chicken? Bucket of chicken fingers. Is that what it was?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, man. About that moment. That. That's a fun exercise to do. No matter what, just write a. You don't have to sing it yet write a country song about that moment. How you.

[Jackie]

I don't want to, like, call it statement in this.

[KFC]

Call it bucket list. And it's all the things that you love in life and you want to do, but it's like the bucket of chicken fingers is like, the inspiration, the inspo. Or maybe just go full blown political. Go right wing and just like. No, I like that. Like. Like, again with this Yankees. Like, I was at Citi Field. Chicken finger.

[Jackie]

I was really happy.

[KFC]

Chicken fried. You just need, like, a little remix of chicken fried.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

You know, they said, like, jeans to fit, right. All the other things they said that were awesome. Like, you need to make your own list of that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I also think, like, in order for me to, like, make money off of this, it has to be extremely low budget. So, like, I said, seriously, like, don't expect anything more than, like, just Pabs sitting there and me sitting on this.

[Feitelberg]

Get a couple high hats, couple 808s. You're all good.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Okay.

[KFC]

We can definitely get you. We have people who at least play instruments or make beats or we know people who make beats. We can definitely get you the music. We have enough people. Like, I could get, like, like, the mike studs of the world or something. Like, we have enough music contacts. Yeah. Like, usually when Dave needed a rap song, he helped him. Like, will we have enough people?

[Jackie]

So are we sure I shouldn't do rap? Because I'm gonna read you guys some recent rap lyrics today.

[KFC]

Oh, well, now we're definitely doing rap.

[Jackie]

Okay. Big shoes to feel. No, big shoes to fill. And I'm wearing them as slippers.

[KFC]

Okay, okay, we'll put that in there.

[Jackie]

I'm gonna say that one more time. We got a mic drop because you.

[KFC]

Guys clearly didn't feel.

[Feitelberg]

And I like, you got a rap genius me here. What does that mean?

[Jackie]

So. Okay, well, I have to think about it. Like, I like. Yeah, so. So I guess, like, context. The context would be like, I'm. I'm following somebody up, you know, like, let's say in the rap game.

[KFC]

So it's easy for you to fill those shoes.

[Jackie]

Yeah, so. So, like, it's like I go to. I go to Kendrick Lamar, you know, like, or Drake or somebody. The number one right now. And I. And like, everyone's like, hey, you got some big shoes to fill if you want to be number one. And I would say, big shoes to fill. And I'm wearing them as slippers. Like, these are just like, what I wear.

[KFC]

Yeah, these are like my house shoes.

[Feitelberg]

It's one of those things where you're saying it in a way where I understand what you're saying, but the words themselves don't really. Well.

[KFC]

But this is also a thing about the rap world. Like, if you. If you rhyme slippers with something that's just, like, catchy and good, people will be running around going, big shoes to fill.

[Jackie]

But I wear a lot of slippers.

[KFC]

It doesn't really matter.

[Jackie]

It's like when I go to take out my trash, like I. I put those bad boys on, you know? So again, it. It provides, like, more. Like, I'd have to give more color.

[KFC]

Big shoes to fill, but I wear them like slippers.

[Jackie]

What would you think? I love that love.

[KFC]

I just want to rock 55,000 times.

[Jackie]

He gets a rap game. Wait, what was the other one?

[KFC]

Oh, Caroline said she is down to make music better.

[Jackie]

Oh, really?

[KFC]

Yes.

[Jackie]

They say. Okay, so this is more like they say all men are pigs and you're a wild boar. Like, you're like, you're the worst. B O R E B A warrior.

[Feitelberg]

I like that.

[Jackie]

Great one.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[KFC]

The second part of that bar has to be about, like, how they're boring or something.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, I could snore.

[KFC]

Sure. Like, oh, yeah, you put me to sleep.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like in bed. Yeah. Okay. This one was just like. This was like a very, like, context heavy. But basically I went to the. I went to a hospital after a party bus. Went to the hospital after a party bus. Call that ride or die. I would have to. You know, again, like, there's a lot of context I'd have to put in all these. In this.

[Feitelberg]

That's a good one, too. I like that.

[Jackie]

You'Re small dick talking while I'm tick tocking. I don't really know.

[KFC]

I pass on that Tick tocking at my copyright free bar.

[Feitelberg]

All right, wait, hang on now. I got a whole new line of questioning. Like, what state are you in when you're writing these bars? Sounds like salting other people's dick game.

[KFC]

I. I don't sound like a little bit of anti men. A little bit of I'm next up. And also, you have a small dick.

[Jackie]

I'm. I don't think it's coming out of any. Like, I think it's more just kind of like I'm rhyming in my head and I'm just learning from the rap game. Like, I feel like, you know, like, like it's just, oh, you need. You need an op.

[Feitelberg]

You need an op.

[Jackie]

And if any If I have any ops, I don't have that many ops in my life. And so, like, if any. It's like white boys who have, like, wronged me. What?

[Feitelberg]

But if you do, it's a man.

[Jackie]

It's a man. It's a man who, like, didn't text me back. Your girl works a blue collar shift. Oh, something. Something about something I wanted to do something about, like, blue collar, like, using your hands.

[Feitelberg]

I don't.

[Jackie]

I don't know, like, like something about, like. I don't know what my thought process was. There something about, like, hand jobs and blue collars stuff. But.

[KFC]

Wait, say that one again.

[Jackie]

I'm sorry, I don't really know. I didn't really. Like, something about, like, blue collar. Your girl works. I like, I don't remember the context.

[Feitelberg]

Of all these joke about.

[Jackie]

You know what I'm talking about? Like, your girl works a blue collar shift.

[KFC]

So she gives out hand jobs because she works with her hands.

[Jackie]

Hand jobs.

[KFC]

I saw that one. I see the vision. I see the vision. Yeah, it's like, you know, you're a construction worker, you got a hand job.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Anyway, that's pretty much.

[KFC]

It needs to be something like, I work on my brains. Like, you. Your job is with your hands. And then you kind of like.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And then obviously we have the two.

[KFC]

That have already said something's gonna be awesome.

[Jackie]

Covering hickeys call that redneck.

[KFC]

What's that one?

[Jackie]

Covering hickeys call that redneck. Gotta make the paper to roll the paper.

[KFC]

Gotta make the paper.

[Jackie]

That's an OG.

[KFC]

That's from like 2000. What's your, like, MC name? Because by the way, we're definitely going the rap angle now. I think it has to be just j next. 415. J next. JX 415. It's 41 5. Your area code. Yeah. Well, it's like Jay next.

[Jackie]

From my friends and I. Like, we gave each other, like, rap names, but it wasn't that cool. It was like. Mine was like Nick Swizzle.

[KFC]

No, I like that one.

[Jackie]

It wasn't that cool.

[KFC]

But yeah, right now you could put out a song called Like Nixon 6 and it would hit.

[Jackie]

Whoa. Yeah, that would.

[KFC]

That would have been good if you made like a Nick song right now. That would hit.

[Jackie]

Okay. I'm a little more confused on the direction of the song now.

[KFC]

Like, sounds like.

[Jackie]

But. But I could do like a Shaboozi type thing where I'm like, rap it.

[KFC]

And I. I actually have a theory about music. Right now it sounds like People make so little money on actual songs. And then you go on to tour. It's all for tour, right? I would.

[Feitelberg]

What.

[Jackie]

What if I went on tour for myself? Okay.

[KFC]

I would sample everything. I would try to just sample and get it cleared and just be like. I would make a song that's just like, here, the chorus is like. Or like, it's all about the Benjamins. You know what I mean? And just be like, I'm not gonna make a dime off this, but it's gonna be a viral hit.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And then I'm gonna go on tour with, like, all my other paid to, like, play that. We're just, like, now I have a podcast or whatever it is. Like, I would just go. Somebody recently. Oh, I think it was Diddy. He. He had a song on his latest album. I don't think anybody even really knows unless you're, like, deep in the R B world. But it just had the drums from Phil Collins in the air tonight, and it was like, phil Collins just owns that song 100.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

You can't touch that drums without giving him, like, everything. And that's maybe it's not a good example because that song didn't become popular, but it's like, if somehow there's a world where I could get the drums from, you know, from Phil Collins or, like, the guitar riff from, like, Sweet Child of Mine or one of these things that's, like, so recognizable, and it's like, all right, I'm never gonna make a dime off this, but if I go to number one on Spotify, that's gon open up a lot more doors, you know?

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And I think it's, you know, only certain people get cleared for these things. But if there's a world where, you know, you could get cleared for anything that's memorable in this world, like, that's more valuable than anything.

[Feitelberg]

Yeah.

[KFC]

I mean, like, if you're good enough, you can own your masters, all that. It's great. But if you're just, like, trying to make your way, it's like, can I just make a song that didn't work for Diddy? Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that was probably a bit. But it was more just that, like, I. I was trying to figure out. I was talking to. I think I was talking to Rory, who, like, knows about music, and he was like, something like that is like, he owns that whole song. There's other things where it's like, I get a cut of it and this, that. But, like, if you go with something really memorable, it's like, that is their song. But there's so many things now that.

[Jackie]

Are like, can you make money off SoundCloud anymore?

[KFC]

I don't even know. You couldn't. In the beginning, you could.

[Jackie]

Yeah, right? I don't know.

[KFC]

I'm surprised you're not a SoundCloud rapper, Jack.

[Jackie]

Like, maybe. I mean, I'll put my music out on all platforms, whatever needs to happen. But yeah.

[KFC]

Sa.