We React to Zohran Mamdani Winning the NYC Mayoral Election - Full Episode

Summary

KFC Radio: We React to Zohran Mamdani Winning the NYC Mayoral Election

Date: November 6, 2025
Hosts: KFC (Kevin Clancy), Feitelberg (John Feitelberg)
Producer / Guest: Jackie
Main Theme: Reaction, analysis, and many tangents following Zohran Mamdani’s upset victory in the NYC mayoral race. The crew debates NYC politics, the future of the city under a self-declared democratic socialist, the reaction from around the country, and a bit of everything from cult t-shirts to youth basketball.

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Episode Overview

This episode opens in typical KFC Radio fashion—rowdy, irreverent, and swerving immediately from sponsor plugs into pure New York City chaos. The hosts break down their reactions to Zohran Mamdani’s shocking mayoral victory, contextualizing the national and local panic, questioning what "democratic socialism" will mean for NYC, and wading through the internet's heated response. The conversation is packed with sharp political observations, personal confessionals about voting, musings on campaign promises, and hilarious sidebars about Curtis Sliwa, cults, retro t-shirts, and growing up in youth sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Zohran Mamdani’s Election & New York’s Identity

• Immediate reaction: KFC and Feitelberg note the intensity and emotional energy in the office following Mandami’s win, including Barstool founder Dave Portnoy’s threat to move operations to New Jersey because of the election outcome.
• The National Obsession with NY Politics:
  • KFC: “No matter what you feel about the politics...proof positive that New York is New York. Because I'll tell you this much, like, I don't know who the mayor of Dallas is...but I know about this.” [03:15]
  • Feitelberg highlights the non-replicability of NY and wonders why out-of-towners care so much: “They treat New York like a test bubble...but I don’t think Zoron has a chance anywhere else.” [07:29]

2. “Democratic Socialist” vs. “Socialist”—What’s in a Name?

• Feitelberg: “Everyone just drops a word...the whole...every Nordic country is a democratic socialist. All the happiest countries in the world are democratic socialist countries.” [10:40]
• Debate on the feasibility of Mandami’s policy proposals, with humor and skepticism about the practical constraints of turning campaign ideals into reality:
  • KFC: “He’s gonna have a really hard time implementing any of this stuff...that’s any other campaign you’ve ever seen in your life.” [04:54]

3. Cuomo, Sliwa, and ‘Doing It For New York’

• Sharp contrasts are drawn between the main candidates’ motivations and personas.
• KFC on Cuomo: “He cares about his fucking self...he wanted to be president...I think he's going to do what is best for him.” [08:13]
• Curtis Sliwa is characterized as a "real New York character," embracing his image as a dedicated weirdo who just loves the city.
• Memorable moment:
  • Feitelberg: “I'm the Republican candidate who gets his fucking clock cleaned. You think I'm gonna step away? No. It's on my calendar every four years.” [38:10]

4. Reaction to Mandami’s Promises—Reality Check

• Skepticism about sweeping policy:
  • Regarding promises like free buses and ambitious rent policies, there’s debate about their practicality:
    • Feitelberg: “You can point to a million things like...Sweden, Finland, Norway—they’re all democratic socialist. You can point to Kansas City who did Zoran's bus plan—and Kansas City went bankrupt.” [10:40]
• On campaign rhetoric vs. reality:
  • KFC: “If it could work or would work or did work, we would be doing it, you know?” [06:01]

5. The Internet Backlash, Billionaires, & Oligarchy

• On business fleeing NY:
  • “I’d be curious...rich people and businesses will flee New York City. I’d be surprised, but it is something to keep an eye on.” [16:31]
• On billionaire influence:
  • KFC: “If the billionaires are this concerned about it, you could have stopped this a long time ago just by being a little more strategic about how you hoard your billions.” [40:29]
  • Feitelberg on billionaire campaign spending: “26 billionaires combined to spend $20 million to like, fight Zoron and lost...you didn’t even try.” [39:44]

6. Comparing Political Personas: “The Trump Effect”

• KFC likens Mandami’s critics to Trump supporters:
  • “That is exactly, and I mean exactly the same as Donald Trump...making people think that you care about them whether you do or don't, that’s politics.” [13:37]
  • Feitelberg: “To be clear, I don’t know if Zoran’s rich...rich people can care about poor people. That’s okay.” [13:48]

7. Policy Lightning Rounds: Buses, Rent, Police

• Free buses, defunding police, and rent regulation all get their own slightly unserious (but honest) treatment.
  • KFC: “The bus thing is funny to me...if you give the bus away for free, that’s gonna, like, fuck up everything...What does the MTA do with this money that you know about and care about so much?” [20:24]
  • Feitelberg: “The phrase...I think the police are good, did they need all the money? I don’t know.” [25:33]

8. The Power of the Internet and “Cancel Culture”

• Much later in the show, the crew reflects on social media’s impact, especially on women (in context like Barstool's own drama and Paige Spiranac’s hate DMs):
  • KFC: “Girls always get treated differently. I know...it's the Internet in general. But you just get more hate.” [94:35]
  • “Golf world is...a little bit like, they have not had much drama or controversy or disagreement or hate yet. And I don't know if they know how to handle it yet.” [98:38]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On New York winning/losing:

  • KFC: “A lot of people out there are saying it's a big L for New York because the end is now near and we're about to descend into an apocalypse of socialist, you know, failures.” [03:32]
  • Feitelberg: “They might be right.” [03:48]

• On campaign promises:

  • KFC: “We didn't build a wall. We didn't make Mexico pay for it. There's been a billion promises on the campaign trail that people just don't actually do or can’t get done.” [05:05]

• On Curtis Sliwa’s cat plan:

  • KFC: “He’s sitting down...and he’s like, cats are so, like, powerful that if a rat is pregnant and smells a cat...it will abort the fetuses.” [32:10]
  • Feitelberg: “I don’t think there’s any animal that like, naturally self aborts.” [34:04]
  • This whole riff becomes a running bit: “Can we get a rat abortion expert on the show, please, somebody?” [34:44]

• On political actors:

  • KFC: “He turned himself into a hood ornament for the poor and the downtrodden...He plays, he acts.” [13:16]
  • Feitelberg: “Rich people can care about poor people. That’s okay.” [13:29]

• On billionaires and campaign spending:

  • Feitelberg: “If you’re a billionaire, you don’t want someone—You should have spent more money...You didn’t even try.” [39:44]

• On Internet hate:

  • KFC: “People will either make up or they're just not real.” [110:01]
  • Jackie: “When trolls comment mean stuff on girls, it's just showing that you have been rejected by so many girls...You're outing yourself as an ugly person.” [98:21]

• On youth sports humility:

  • KFC: “One of the most demoralizing things in sports is when you are insanely overmatched in basketball. It's the least fun you will ever have, ever. It is just miserable.” [75:47]
  • Feitelberg: “That’s the trick. Next time we're arguing could a WNBA team defeat an NBA team? The guy sweat too much.” [73:39]

• On online comments and self-esteem:

  • KFC: “I think we were, we've done this long enough that I think you, in the beginning, you can't even see it or understand it. Then the second phase is you tell people you don't care, but you really do care. I don't read the comments. But you do read the comments. And then the final phase is like, I see all this, I accept all this. I don't like it...But it also really doesn't affect me.” [107:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Mandami’s win, initial reactions, national obsession (02:00–04:30)
• Cuomo/Sliwa breakdown, who’s doing it for NY (08:13–12:00)
• Socialism vs. Democratic Socialism, NYC as a “test balloon” (06:33–08:13)
• Billionaire Panic & Campaign Financing (38:28–41:35)
• Curtis Sliwa’s “cat plan” and Guardian Angels past (31:37–36:20)
• Bus plan policy & rent regulation debates (20:22–23:03)
• Defund the Police tangent (24:55–26:11)
• Why is the internet so hateful? The Paige Spiranac / barstool hate debate (93:12–97:38)
• Reflecting on the realities of internet culture, hate, and comments (103:11–109:19)
• Light segments: cult t-shirts, youth sports, worst inventions (48:05–53:54, various)

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Tone and Style

• Irreverent, highly conversational, and tangential.
• Hosts riff with humor, skepticism, and relatable New Yorker energy.
• Moments of genuine reflection (especially about internet culture and the realities faced by women online) blend with laughter and absurd stories.
• Classic “bar conversation” format: roast one another, make space for serious points, but never take anything too seriously for too long.

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Summary Takeaway

The KFC Radio crew takes Mandami’s upset in stride—admitting their own lack of political expertise while capturing the unique drama of NY politics. Their breakdown is less about policy specifics and more about personalities, cultural meaning, and the sheer weirdness of democracy in America’s capital of chaos. They’re not convinced doom is coming, but see both comedic and serious potential for change and conflict ahead.

As always, they balance the heavy with the hilarious, closing out with segments on cults, youth hoops, and the persistent insanity of internet life.

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For New Listeners

Missed the episode? This summary covers the heart of KFC Radio’s Mandami mayoral analysis and gives you a feel for why the Barstool flagship is part confessional, part roast, and part sociological experiment—all best enjoyed with a drink in hand.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

I'm gonna put Hermann Goering on trial.

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[A]

I'm going to put Hermann Goering on trial.

[B]

Sony Pictures Classics presents Nuremberg. Starring Academy Award winner Russell Crowe, Academy Award winner Rami Malek, and Academy Award nominee Michael Shannon. Do you plead guilty or not guilty?

[A]

Order. Order.

[B]

Nuremberg. Now playing only in theaters is Always Sunny, based on Curtis Lewa. Honestly. Yeah, it's just like he does Charlie.

[A]

Work for a living and he wears.

[B]

A BR episode just like, what's Sliwa been up to? He's got a bat with spikes. He's like, all right. Charlie yells that at Sweet d. I.

[A]

Have 10,000 cats because I have a.

[B]

Million rats running around.

[A]

Foreign radio on the barstool sports network. It's a new dawn, a new day in. In New York. I've been walking around the office. I'm asking everybody, what are you going to take to the new office when we move to New Jersey? Anything you're specifically going to pack up? Because Dave Portnoy has said he is heavily considering moving New York, the New York operation, to New Jersey because of the Mandami election.

[B]

I live right on the path.

[A]

I wouldn't mind working.

[B]

I mean, I make my commute easier.

[A]

I lived in Hoboken.

[B]

It's great over there.

[A]

I don't know if I would mind it. So, yeah, Mandami wins. Cuomo fans are. Are fans. I mean, yeah, I misspoke and said fans are saying support supporters, but no, they're fans. At this point, we're just talking about, like, sports. They're. Cuomo supporters are irate that Curtis Lewis didn't drop out, even though if you added up all of Curtis Lewis votes to Cuomo, which wouldn't happen, you can't assume every single person would have voted for Cuomo. But even if you did make that assumption, it still wouldn't be enough to beat Big Z. So I don't know. It's kind of like he won fair and square. Well, as fair as politics can be. I don't know. There's always corruption. Yeah, but it just Seems like this is what the people wanted. And there are a lot of people don't live in New York who are really upset about this. And I. No matter what you feel about the politics and there's a lot to get into. I'm sure we can talk about all the different angles there, but proof positive that New York is New York. It's New York for a reason. Because I'll tell you this much, like, I don't know who the mayor of Dallas is. You know, some of these other big cities, like, I. I know Gavin Newsom. I know him. But, like, some of these other cities that claim to be, like, we're the biggest city in America, or, like, why do people care about New York? It's like, I don't know shit about your mayoral race. I don't know who even won, lost, whatever. And I know that this.

[B]

I don't care what national news is on. Cars that drive into your city are. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's New York for a reason, man. So, yeah, big win for New York in terms of reputation. A lot of people out there are saying it's a big L for New York because the end is now near and we're about to descend into a apocalypse of socialist, you know, failures.

[B]

They might be right.

[A]

Maybe they might.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

This is what I can't. I'm really trying to. As always, not very political. I don't vote. I didn't vote, so you can tell me. Just shut the up, because I shouldn't be talking if I didn't vote. All that stuff is true. But I am trying to figure out whether, you know, our. Our whole lives, every education, every. Every classroom, every news outlet, everything has told us that communism and socialism just doesn't work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so maybe that is the case. But then I'm also like, I don't know. That's what we've just been told our whole life. And if anything I've realized over the last few years is that, like, people talking, they're going to tell you things about vaccines and politics and this and that. It's like, I. I don't know. And I don't know. Maybe what we've been told is wrong. Are there examples of, like, in different. Maybe it's a different time, maybe it's a different place. Maybe if it's not run by, like, a brutal dictator, it'll be differently. I don't know. Or there's every chance that it's like, yeah, this doesn't work. But I. What I do find funny Is always. Are people being like.

[B]

Like, he's gonna.

[A]

Have a really hard time implementing any of this stuff.

[B]

Which he might. He probably will.

[A]

No, he definitely will.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because. But so does every politician ever you run your campaign are always these extremes that are preying upon people's, like, insecurities and fears and desires. And they're always these extremes that are either, like, idealistic or like, wouldn't it be amazing if this happened and you do that in order to win and then you get into office and you can't enact any of it. And that is left, right, socialist. Otherwise, nobody. We didn't build a wall. We didn't make Mexico pay for it. We didn't like all these things that there's been a billion promises on the campaign trail that people either just don't actually do or when they actually, when it comes time to try to pass a bill or whatever the it is, can't get it done.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know why this is an extreme example of it because people are saying it's socialism and all that, but it's like this, that's like any other campaign you've ever seen in your life.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And I do think he'll probably run into a lot of problems with some of the stuff he's trying to do. And it's like I said, idealistic. And in a perfect world, a lot of those things would run smoothly. But I, I, I don't, I think if it, if it could work or would work or did work, it would, we would be doing it, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But maybe not. I don't know. The other thing is, like, the current system doesn't seem to be working all that well. The only thing I really do like about it though, that I can say with certainty because I, again, I'm not really informed enough to really know what I'm talking about, but it feels like this was determined based on, like, how expensive rent is and how hard it is to, like, make ends meet and, like, put food on the table. And I think that the local election should be a lot more about that.

[B]

Yo, God, you know, like, I'm happy.

[A]

That like, like we should his. Any of their thoughts on Israel. Who cares? Any of their thoughts even on Trump or some of these big picture things. It's like we should be worrying about what, what's good for, like, this city right now. And it almost feels like, let's get back to like, a level where we can afford to buy a house or put food on the table, like I said. And then we can worry about some of the deeper political, like, nuance, you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Things have just gotten a little out of control here and I think if somebody was like, let's focus on just like making it affordable. I'm not even touching at this point. Good to go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you want to like, hook that, that wire over it. Yeah. Over this side. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Like that. That should be a little better. Yep. Okay, cool. I, I, yeah, I think people like being, focusing on what the people living here day to day need most. Whether or not you can do that or enact that, I don't know. But that seemed to be the focal point of this election and like, that's what it should be almost all the time. But certainly on a local level, I.

[B]

Think the, I completely agree with that. I think the people who care outside of New York care because A, it's New York, but B, I would assume, and I would like to ask him because I'm curious, like, why do you care so much? I think they, they treat New York like a test bubble, test balloon probably for like everything else. And I actually don't think that's applies in this case.

[A]

I mean, I don't think like in the sense of like it's, it's not replicated anywhere else.

[B]

In the gun. Yeah, I don't think representative of, I don't think Zo Ron has a chance anywhere else. Like maybe in L. A but like, I, like, I don't think it's representative of like where the Democratic Party will go.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So that's why I wouldn't care if I was some. I just don't think maybe the Democratic Party go this way. I don't think it would be smart.

[A]

I think when I looked at that, when I looked at that election, I thought Andrew Cuomo cares about him fucking his fucking self. He, his legacy. He wants to, he wanted to be president. I think he thought he was going to be and then Covid him up and he's trying to get back and I think he's going to do what is best for him. Yeah, I think Zoron is, I don't know with him yet. He's just so new and like, but he's so online and so out there that part of me thinks that he's going to have bigger aspirations as well. And I just remember thinking Curtis Lewa, as crazy as he is and as ridiculous as he is, he did feel like a guy who was like, I just want New York to be better, you know? And I Almost wonder if there's a way to, like, if you get into politics, you become the mayor of New York or the governor of a state, big deal. You're probably thinking, what's next? It's like a. It's like a coaching job. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm an assistant, and then eventually I want to be a coordinator, and then I'm going to be head coach and that. But that changes how you do the current job at the small level. You know what I mean? So if there was something where it was like, you, you have to run New York, but that's it. You're not going any higher than this. So don't even worry about what is the national scale going to think of me and left. Right. And otherwise, like, you're almost not allowed to because. And all you have to do is this job. Well, because again, like, if it was coaching, it's like you do a great job at a program and then you bounce and you leave it in shambles. And it's like, that's the natural progression.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like that kind of happens in politics where it's hard to figure out, like, are you here and doing it for this reason or are you doing it for, like, what's next?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I voted for Zo Run. He's probably a little. I am for sure a lib, but he's probably. He's probably to the left of me. But I just like. Like, kind of. You said, like, in watching the campaign, one person wants, like. One person clearly likes New York.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And wants New York to be better. One person, I thought, just thought he deserved the job. Yep. And I did not think Cuomo earned it. I was not impressed.

[A]

I think his fans are. Supporters are very that way as well, where it's just like, again, to go back to coaching. It's like when we recycle head coaches, the NFL, it's sort of just like, well, he's. He's kind of done the job before.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I liked him other than that, like, yeah, he patted some girl on the ass. That's okay. And you just kind of go back to the. Well, whereas this is like, at the very least, like new blood and all that sort of shit. Now, I. I think this is another.

[B]

He's also a democratic socialist, which is very different than a socialist that, like, I feel like everyone just drops an important term, like an important word in describing the phrase. Like, the whole. Every Nordic country is a democratic socialist. All the happiest countries in the world are democratic socialist countries. And, like. And you can point to a million things like that. Like, you can say, well, Sweden, Finland, Norway, like, they're all democratic socialists. They're doing great. You can also point to, like, Kansas City, who did Zoran's bus plan. And Kansas City went bankrupt. And you're like, okay, so that's a bad idea. But my opinion would be Kansas City's bus plan didn't work because they don't have the millionaires that New York has. Like, the plan to pay for the buses is to tax billionaires. Kansas City probably doesn't have it. Patrick Mahomes is like, I'm out of money, guys. I can't carry this entire city for everyone's bus pass. He's calling Travis, like, yo, your girl has got a cut check. I can't do this myself. I obviously don't know all the ins and outs of stuff, but, like. But what? I was just. My point was, like, you can point to a million different things. Why it will work, why it won't work.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know.

[B]

I believe the guy. I could look stupid.

[A]

I.

[B]

You know, in four years or. What is it four or two? It's four, right? Yeah. In four years, I could. I could look very dumb. Currently. I believe the guy. I think he wants New York.

[A]

Well, you know what's interesting about that? And where'd my phone go? I'm gonna pull up this tweet.

[C]

He would probably love my billionaire card.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Which might be a bad.

[B]

Might be a bad thing.

[A]

This girl Jackie's gonna end up in Zoron's cabinet.

[B]

Nichols 2028. Yeah, that would be.

[A]

That would be like a. Like the. The SAS skit where he got drafted.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do we know, like, what. In terms of presidents, like, is there one that most of them have been mayor? Is there a state that most of them have been mayors for presidents?

[B]

I don't think many presidents have been mayor.

[C]

Yeah, I guess there's only like 50,000.

[B]

Like, mayor. I don't think you get the president.

[C]

I always assumed you go, like, mayor, governor.

[B]

No, I think. I think most. I think most people who are president. I. I used to think the same, and I actually pretty recently kind of had this realization. I think most people who are of that level, you start it, like, senator. Oh, like. Like, you're just like, a rich kid who, like. Or a soldier, like a war hero who. Big packs are like, you got it, Got it. Let's get you a senator. And then from senator, we can work our way up.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's, it's one of those things. It's almost like they install you because they have exact plans and you're like a puppet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So this guy on CNN said, I'm going to compliment your guy. He's the greatest actor you have. He turned himself into a hood ornament for the poor and the downtrodden. He's a rich kid who is a great actor. He plays, he acts, he plays, he.

[B]

He plays right there. I take umbrage with that where like you can be rich and care about poor people. You can do both. That, that's true.

[A]

What I take umbrage with is that is exactly, and I mean exactly the same as Donald Trump. Like people being like, he doesn't actually care about the Pete.

[B]

Like, that's also to be clear, I don't know if Zoran's rich. I have no idea what Zoran is. But I'm just saying, like rich people can care about poor people.

[A]

That's okay. And, and like acting, he's an actor. He, he's telling the people he cares about them. Like, that is politics. That is the best politics. Politicians do that. Well, like Donald Trump is that guy who was, is a billionaire, does not give a fuck about anybody other than himself, but certainly not poor people. And like the downtrodden and has convinced the world that he does.

[B]

I was going to say, I would argue that Trump doesn't really do it believably. Well, Zoran at least did it a little believably.

[A]

And you're right. But like it's believable to the masses. You know what I mean? Like, I think normal, normal people can see right through that. And that's not even a knock. Like, I think if I was a Donald Trump supporter, I still would be able to admit, like, come on, that's so the fact that you can't say that like Donald Trump who like, you know, has his golden toilets and is, is like a man of the people.

[B]

Like, is Zoron rich, by the way? I didn't know that. Is that, is that true?

[A]

I don't think so. His mom was a cinematographer. I don't think so. Cuz I, I think he's talked about he lives in like a $3,000 a month apartment. And like, I mean, that doesn't mean you're not rich or whatever. But like, I don't think he's, I don't think he's wealthy now.

[B]

Like, like he's just so young.

[A]

I don't even know if he's had time to be wealthy.

[B]

I also think there's a difference growing up, like, with, like, just not poor and, and being rich, like, that's a hugely different thing.

[A]

I, I don't think he's a Nepo baby. You know, I don't think that applies here. But like that to, you know, kind of turn that around on, on Mandami, when it's like, that's quite literally what everybody does and what this shining example. It's just that the people who hate him the most are supporting a guy who's done the exact same thing. And it's like this version is a conservative billionaire, this version is a socialist middle class guy, let's call it. But at the end of the day, it's the same thing of making people think that you care about them whether you do or don't. Like, you make you convince them of that. And, and that's your, your platform, your, your, your campaign. Like, that's how it goes. So I, I don't get how people are failing to see that connection there. You know, and the different, like in Dave's tweet, he was like, I'm, you know, thank God I don't live there anymore. Like, that. Not only is it exactly the same for the candidates, I think it's like that's, that's how Trump behaves and what you're feeling is how Democrats feel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where they're like Dave said, if this is what the people of New York City want, so be it. I'm just happy I don't live there anymore. I think Democrats are like, I, I can't believe this is happening. But, yeah, they all voted for him. The difference is they can't be like, I just don't live in that city. I mean, you could be one of those people who leaves the country, but you don't really have a choice if you want to live in America.

[B]

So I'd be curious. I know people have at least said it throughout the campaign that rich people and businesses will flee New York City. I'd be surprised. But it is something to keep an eye on.

[A]

Yeah. The governor of Texas said he's going to, he's gonna levy a 100% tariff on anybody trying to leave New York to come to Texas.

[B]

Speaking for myself, I'm not in a rush, Greg.

[A]

Yeah, I think, I think this is, as always, like, I don't think that much is gonna change. It never does. I think there probably will be. Like, if I was a startup, if I was starting my company now, whatever it may be. I probably wouldn't pick here.

[B]

Like, but that's also very silly. Like, you're not going to pick if it's the best place for your company to grow.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Then you should come here.

[A]

Well, so that's what's going to be the big. I think push and pull is like, if there is some sort of taxing or plan in place that really hinders you or takes away your money. But the flip side is it's like this metropolis of 8 million people and like business and commerce and culture. So it's a lot like what we were saying about brands, where it's like, do you stay cool and be in the mix or do you make the money? Like, so I don't know the answer there, but I could see. I don't think it's gonna, like, radically change things, but I could just see somebody being like, I don't want to deal with those taxes, so I'm out. Or I could see somebody being like, just like anything else, New York stays New York, no matter if it's left. Right. Whatever. You know, my other question with it.

[B]

Is, like, when we pay so much in taxes, like, if you look at other states, they're not like, like when the SNAP benefits went out, like, the 10 states affected the most are red states.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, I feel like my. That's always my question in politics too, where, like, I'm. I'm not a genius by any stretch, imagination, but like, I follow it a good deal. And like, when everyone's like, this is the wrong way to do it, I'm like, well, all the states that are struggling are the red ones.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, so like, why is your way, the way to go? If, like every state that's not doing so hot is. Is a red state, then why would you think your ideas are the best?

[A]

Have you seen the amount of like, maps going around that are like, if it wasn't for the cities, you know, no Democrat would ever win.

[B]

Sure. That's where all the people are.

[A]

It's like, that's where all the people are. That's where all the jobs are.

[B]

You know, general shark attacks take place along the ocean. Like, yeah, it's where the people are. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Trog attacks don't take place in the middle of the Atlantic. That's. There's no person out there.

[A]

If we determined everything by, like the, the, the counties with 15 people and 16 cows, like, yeah, you guys would.

[B]

I'm not saying, like, there are places that, you know, everywhere in America matters. Very much and contributes to America. But, like, you know. No, like, I honestly, I think the people, the places where people aren't. That's where we're creating all the food. That's where, like, it all matters.

[A]

No, but I think, like, we've determined over the years that we don't give a fuck about Missouri. Right, Missouri, Mississippi.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

There's Missouri, the one that we said.

[B]

Like, there are states that don't matter for sure. But largely every state matters and contributes and brings something to the table. But, like, yeah, I don't. I don't get. Like, without cities, Democrat wouldn't win. That's where the people are. That's where the people are voting.

[A]

It's nuts. That. And I do know that there's. They're re redrawing some of the counties and like, that right now realignment that, like, does sound like it's going to benefit the Democrats. I. There's always corruption and shady or, well, unfair or whatever.

[B]

California is doing it in response to Texas doing it.

[A]

So. Yeah, I mean, it just keeps, you know, it's just a game that keeps.

[B]

Going back and forth. They're both outright gerrymandering.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, they're both not. Neither state is even really trying to hide it, I don't think.

[A]

Right. So, like, that stuff does happen, but the. In general, it's just like. Yeah, forget about, like, states and cities and all that. Just think about it, like, physically, if it was like, there's a voting booth over here and a voting booth over here and everyone is voting at this.

[B]

One and be like, well, if we only counted that one, we would win.

[A]

It's like, yeah, everyone went there instead. So. And the bus thing is funny to me. Like, I'm just always so fascinated what becomes. There's always about, like, two or three things in any campaign, whether it's national or local, that people latch onto, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they kind of. They're cyclical. Like, things like abortion are, like, always in the mix, but sometimes they're more, sometimes they're less. And this bus thing seems to be like, the one that really gets a lot of attention. And I'm just like, you don't care about the bus. I know you. If you're like a regular person who rides the bus, you're probably happy about it. If there is some world where you're like, I'm a bus driver and like, less money coming in for the bus branch of the MTA is gonna with me, then, like, you have a right to. To care about it. But I think in general, people are just. They've just assumed if you give the bus away for free, that that's gonna, like, up everything. Well, then they have less money coming in. Okay, keep going. What. What does the MTA do with this money that you know about and care about so much?

[B]

But they also have. They get the money from the taxes. The money's still coming in.

[A]

Right. But I'm just. I can understand the thought of, like, this is gonna up the. The business or the money, but I think that people don't know what I mean.

[B]

And to be honest, somebody said, like.

[A]

Yo, they did exactly this in Kansas City, and here's why. We are exactly like Kansas City. Like, I know what we said is very different, but if there was a case of, like, I've looked at this, I've read this, I've watched this. It's not work, but I think it's just people don't like his politics. They don't like who he is. And so now anything he comes up with, they're against.

[B]

Yeah. You know, I. I also think would.

[A]

Have been congestion, like you just said, like we always said. If Trump. It was the other way around. If Trump. If it was in place and. And he undid it or redid it, like, they would just like it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So I think, same thing with the bus. Like, you don't know or care about the buses. You're just like, I don't like this guy. This is what he wants to do. So I don't like that.

[B]

And I think those are probably things like, would have been nice for Cuomo to attack. Like, Cuomo more attacked to the fact that he's anti Semitic, which, like. And he's. He's a Muslim or he's. He had an Islamophobic campaign. The. Or at least at times. Yeah. I would have liked Cuomo to maybe campaign on that. And tell me a little more about that, about why it didn't work. I would have liked them to campaign on how, like, you know, the rent freeze would be in charge. I forget. It's like Nasha Nisha or something like that is the. The landlord who would be in charge of all those rent freezes. And they're inarguably, what I'm told, the worst landlord in the city. So, like, that's my person you want in charge of. It would have been nice for Cuomo to attack that one. And maybe he did, but I just. That's not what I largely saw.

[A]

I would wonder. I wonder if. I've always thought that we're going to see something interesting in the next, you know, however many years, either Donald Trump leaves or dies. I don't think there's really anybody.

[B]

New York State Housing Association.

[A]

I don't think there's anybody who can do Trump the way Trump does it. And it almost feels like what Cuomo was doing there was like Trump esque, where it's like, let's focus on crazy shit. Let's say he did 9 11, let's say that he kills kids, let's say he's an infidel, all this shit. And unless you're really committed to that and good at it and funny and extreme and you keep beating that drum the way Trump does, I don't think it hits. You know what I mean? So it's like, you probably shouldn't have tried to pretend to be Trump. You probably should have, like, let's attack some of the policies and shit. And I'm sure they said, hey, in this political climate, it's great to say he's an anti semite and did 9 11, but not unless you really got the Trump X factor.

[B]

A tweet from 2020 didn't really sway me that he's fucking anti Semitic.

[A]

Well, and the anti Semite thing's interesting because it does seem like enough people have discerned between Israel as a country and state and government versus Jewish people.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You can be anti Israel or pro Palestine. And that doesn't mean that I want like all the Jews in New York City to die. I, I, but I certainly, I think there was some petition that like 3, 000 rabbis signed against Zoran. And like, I could see if you're Jewish that you just lump them together and you don't like him for whatever reason. But I think the wider public is starting to be like, yeah, if he.

[B]

Has some outright anti Semitic quotes that I didn't see, I regret my vote.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I don't think he does.

[A]

Right, Right. So I think it's only just like, you gotta kind of wait and see. But I think it's gonna be a lot more of like, I don't think any, I think very few of these things will be enacted. Like, I also saw the man he thinks it is.

[B]

They were just arguing about like the defund the police stuff out there with, like, Because Zoran had a tweet about that in 2020. First of all, we were all saying some wild shit in 2020.

[A]

Yeah, he's a, he's an online guy. He has those videos of him. Like he made Like a rap video.

[B]

And yeah.

[A]

Was cooking in the hall truck. Some things are, like, weird. But you're online, you're gonna say some shit and do some shit.

[B]

I also, like, like, I think we spent the last year defunding a million government agencies that are probably more important than the police. And we didn't really care about that. Like, you know, a defunded the FBI. We defunded a million fucking organizations. We defended fucking usa. Like, we.

[A]

But it wasn't a talking point. So that was a thing.

[B]

The phrase. I was like, yeah, I. I think the police are good. Did they need all the money?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Maybe that's not, you know, I wasn't like, defund the police, take zero money. But if you're. If your argument is like 8 billion instead of $9 billion budget, okay, that's not. That's not so bad.

[A]

Or. I always thought that the, The, The. The police thing should just be more like, let's preach, like, efficiency and like, logic. I do think that we need to be safer and better, but I don't think that necessarily just means throwing money at the problem. It's probably.

[B]

But I also, like, I want to be clear. Like, I strongly disagree with it, but I'm just saying we doing it with every government agency. Yeah. We spent a year defunding every government agency. I think people that one and going this is wrong is crazy.

[A]

I think people think the police is different because it's like a safe. You feel like it's a safety thing on your level. You know, you have a problem, there will be nobody to come save you.

[B]

But we defend. We defunded a lot of protective government agencies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I don't know.

[A]

I could see people thinking differently about the FBI and like my local government, for sure. My local police.

[B]

But like, I'm just saying.

[A]

Yeah. The point stands that it's like you just. Because it's just whichever thing has been in the news cycle that you were.

[B]

There are a lot of government agencies outside the police that protect us.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Ultimately, at the end of the day, I think this is. It seems like in the last few elections, which either. Which either side has won in an extreme, be it Trump as a conservative or now Zoran as Democrat. I always go back to like, if the other side just put up, like a decent candidate, I think they would have been okay.

[B]

Yeah. Like a guy who doesn't wear it to fedora. I almost. I went toupe. Then I went fedora. Beret is what it is.

[A]

You Know, and, And like, Kamala was like.

[B]

I mean, Curtis, who I. To be fair, I really don't know much about at all. But he's a character that Rob Mack is parodied and always sunny. You're not gonna win an election.

[A]

Did you see his whole cat thing? No. So he lives with 17 cats.

[B]

Oh, bro. Okay. So I'm so happy you said that because I was just reading about the American Revolution and learned a lot about the American Revolution. I'm going to keep learning about. It's almost 250, 250th anniversary. King George had a room with 2,000 disassembled clocks in it. Just because he liked that shit. And I was like, that person was in charge of a fucking empire. A guy who had 2000 George disassembled clocks in a room. That's insane. That's sick and twisted and perverted.

[A]

Ran the world.

[B]

He ran the world, dude. The globe. This guy with clear mental issues. I mean, that a room of 2,000 clocks he took apart.

[A]

King George is super duper autistic, super short. Short of like, he owns trains. It's disassembled clocks.

[B]

That's right beneath it. I was reading that in a magazine, and I threw the magazine and my hands in the air. I was like, what are you supposed to do with that 2000 disassembled clock?

[C]

What were they disassembled?

[A]

I.

[B]

He liked the way it wasn't just clock thermometers and barometers, but he just liked the way that. I don't know the engineering of it, I guess.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

It was insane.

[A]

Well, Curtis is the new age King George. He's got 17. He fosters them, so it's a little different.

[C]

But actually, I feel like that's who I want more in office is like, don't just be kind of like, I need like a weird, like, be off. Don't do it for cool. I don't know.

[A]

I go back. I, I think actually it's more the.

[C]

Way you rub your eyes is just insane.

[B]

Just my little baby.

[C]

It's also like your eyes. You, like, stop being human for a second. Your eyes, like, roll back in your head.

[A]

It is funny, though. You do like the baby. I, I, I do that too. You get your knuckle in there like it's.

[B]

You don't want to be really my least favorite thing on the planet is, like, infantilizing stuff. And it is like, I look like a little. Let me clean my eyes.

[C]

Do you think it's because you're hanging.

[B]

Hands are so fat and gross. Probably. No, I think.

[A]

Yo, if your hands are so fat, they don't fit in your socket, you got fat hands, bro. That's crazy.

[B]

I'm gonna.

[A]

Sorry.

[C]

Sorry.

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[B]

We gotta. We gotta shift gears.

[A]

Yeah, so. So there's a clip out right now.

[B]

The lady's asking about getting shot. She's got a cat sitting on her head.

[A]

Let me see if I can find it. Cat, rat. So he's sitting down with this woman in his apartment, which by the way, I don't know if it's like real or what, but like, they say he lives in a 325 square foot apartment with his wife.

[B]

I don't know how to do square.

[A]

Footage that's really small.

[B]

Really?

[A]

That would be like, really small for like a guy who's running. So this.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

I'll find this clip from. For the. For the edit. But he sits down with this woman and he's like, cats are so like, powerful that if a rat is pregnant and smells a cat is present or knows a cat is around, it will abort the fetuses. No, maybe. I don't know. Because the girl. So he says, that makes sense because.

[B]

Honestly, with bodega cats, I was always like, how? Like, what could they possibly be doing.

[A]

Doing keeping them rats? Yeah, well, I, I actually think that was maybe part of it because I saw some tweets. Again, it was just a clip. I don't know everything. But I think his, his idea was to like, use cats to control the rat population. And he said like, yeah, they'll. They'll abort their fetuses. Then I saw tweets of people being like, this is patently false. So I don't know about that.

[B]

Is. He just is. Is. That is always sunny based on Curtis. It's just like he does Charlie work.

[A]

For a living and he wears a.

[B]

Episode just like, what's Flea been up to?

[A]

He's got that with spikes.

[B]

He's like, all right, Charlie, that in sweet d. I have 10,000 cats because I have a million rats running around.

[A]

There's a strong chance that those guys are like, you know, this guy pretends to be a superhero and he kills cats and rats and. But so he, he says, like, he goes on this long winded explanation that he's like, the rats will abort the fetuses. Well, so the girl, he says all. He's like, the rats will naturally get rid of all fetuses. There's any presence of a cat. And the girl goes, you just, you just said a lot, right? There's all these notes about like crime and the mafia. And she's like, so rat abortions. And she's like, you just said a lot. Like, how do they abort the fetuses? And he's like, I don't know.

[B]

So I don't think any of us. I don't think any of it's true.

[A]

I don't think there's any animal that like naturally self aborts.

[B]

I guess there is you could make the argument, you know, I. I don't know if this is where Curtis was going with it, but, like, if a cat's presence is as powerful as I've been led to believe, like, yeah, if you don't live in New York, every bodega has a cat in it. And I've been told it's because they keep the rats away. And I was always like, what does that mean?

[A]

They kill the rats?

[B]

They. But, like, is it. Is it their presence is so stressful that the rats just. Just have a miscarriage?

[A]

Right. It's almost like, yeah, I was so scared and, like, couldn't get to my food regularly.

[B]

Or maybe that's. Maybe that's what he's trying to say. That's probably trying to help him out here, but, like, maybe that's what he's saying.

[A]

Can we get a rat abortion expert on the show, please, somebody? Yeah, that woman. That was a lot. But, yeah, part of me is like, I do genuinely believe this, that he. That guy really cares about New York and only New York. And I don't think anything else, but do I think that a man who wears a beret and pretends to be. But you know what? Even the Guardian Angels thing, as patently ridiculous as it is, I kind of go back to how I've been told my whole life that socialism is bad. And I'm like, I don't actually know what I've been told is true or whatever. I feel the same way about Curtis Lewis. Growing up in New York, it was always like, who's that guy with the beret? You hear about the Guardian Angels? And everyone was always like, this guy is a batshit lunatic, crazy person. Right? And then I found out some more details. Like he was a manager, a night manager of a McDonald's in the Bronx. And every night that he and his. And the people on his shift would go home, people were getting robbed and shit. So they just protected people. They were just. They just got together and they got on the subway and they were like, fucking people up. If you tried to, like, rob people, is it crazy to call yourself the Guardian Angels and wear matching berets and be like, we're crime fighters? Yeah. Is it kind of cool that a guy who managed a fucking McDonald's in the Bronx was like, me and my people are going to go protect it, the city? That's a good thing.

[B]

It's a guy. It's a guy who found a solution to a problem.

[A]

Yeah. Multiple ones.

[B]

Rat boy.

[A]

So, like that. I do think that that guy, if he wasn't, he just didn't. He just has such a bad reputation of just like a weirdo, you know? But I think that he cares about New York and, like, it's. And I don't think Cuomo really does. And I think Zoron does.

[B]

Maybe I'm like, I'm stupid, like Cuomo. I, I, I was insulted by his campaign.

[A]

It might be the worst campaign in America.

[B]

It was just, like, outright to vote for me because I deserve it. Yeah, why do you deserve. What have you done?

[A]

I mean, and, like, the, the experience thing. I mean, the first of. Curtis killed him. Curtis murdered him with slapping fannies, killing grannies. That was straight out of the barstool T shirt playbook that.

[B]

I, I didn't even catch that. Yeah, that's. That's it. We sold that T shirt.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Throwing raping chicks, nailing slots. Basic rhyming was humongously important to barstool in the early days.

[A]

And it's for a reason, bro. Slapping fannies, killing grannies was like, you're done. And then when. When Zoron said, what I lack for, what I lack in experience, I make up for in integrity. And what you lack in integrity could never be made up in your experience.

[B]

Like, didn't catch that either. Also, a bar.

[A]

Like, I just don't. And every time he brought up experience, Zoron was like, your experience was widely considered a nightmare.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that, to me, I, I can't believe he was.

[B]

Yeah, you want. You guys want. Jeff Fisher will go eight and eight again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Right, right. It's just the same thing. And, and the fact that, the fact that, like, the Democrats, like, spurned him, and he was like, I'm gonna do it anyway. That should have been enough. Democrats were like, you're out. You should have been like, so that's where I take umbrage with people mad at Sliwa for not dropping out. First of all, I think mathematically it doesn't make a difference. And second of all, you should have fucking dropped out when they said, we don't want you.

[B]

Third of all, Sliwa should be like, dude, I run. Like, what made you think I lose the fucking. The election, I lose.

[A]

That's my bread and butter.

[B]

I'm the Republican candidate who gets his fucking clock clean. You think I'm gonna step away? No. It's on my calendar every four years. I love to think that, you know.

[A]

When the camp, like, a year before election day, like, it's time to start. He's Like. Like, sounds the alarms, calls up his team.

[B]

Like, time to lose another election, guys.

[A]

Let's go. But there are rumors started by him. He went on a podcast. He went on a lot of podcasts. We should have had Curtis. Now that I saw some of the outlets he was on, I was like, we should have had him. We would have been, like, a star. He said that the billionaires offered him $10 million to drop out of the race. If that's true, you should have taken that money, Curtis. Like, take that money and run. He says 10 million bucks was, like, the bribe to keep him in. I. I can't imagine it was $10 million. I do think that there was probably bribery.

[B]

I also think if you're bribing, that's a low ball. You think?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I mean, you're a billionaire, and you're like, all your issues about Zoron had a bar. I hate that I keep saying that. That's not how I. Everyone. Everyone who's listening must, like, take their headphones out. Like, John doesn't.

[A]

You're. That. That meme. That guy taking the head. Yeah.

[B]

But Zoran was on flagrant, and he had a great line about Cuomo that he said. He said Cuomo spent more on his campaign than I would have taxed him.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, yeah, I saw something that said 26 billionaires combined to spend $20 million to, like, fight Zoron and loss. I was like, that's.

[B]

Then you didn't even try.

[A]

26 billionaires combined for. See all. Less than a million.

[B]

You didn't even try. Like. Like, for real, if you're a billionaire, you don't want someone. You should have spent more money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You could have no money to use.

[A]

100 million each. Like, if they really mattered that much.

[B]

You know, that actually really, like, changed the way I think things because, like, yeah, if you really cared, you would have spent more than that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. And you know what else? I hate to bring up this guy, but I will give him or at least a shout out. I don't know about credit because I don't know about these things, but you know the streamer sneako? Do you guys know he's kind of an. Right. Yeah. But he. He did say he was like. Elon Musk was, like, so vocal about how bad this is, and he was like, you're the reason why guys like Zoron have so much.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Support. And he's like, if you just didn't have half a trillion dollars, people would probably not be on their anti billionaire. So, like, give your money. If you're really worried about, like, your. How this is going to impede you, your path, your business and your money, if you had just given enough of it away and been altruistic to the point that someone like Zoron wouldn't have gained all this momentum, you could have solved your own problem. I think that guy is a idiot. And an. That was a pretty good point where it was like, if the billionaires are this concerned about it, you could have stopped this a long time ago just by being a little more strategic about how you hoard your billions. So it just seems like, yeah, like, there's. I, I don't. I think he's too extreme. Not maybe even necessarily like my personal beliefs. I think if you're too extreme, it's hard to get anything done because it's just like. So I think maybe a little more moderate would have been good. I think if there was a, A more. Who's this Zoron? Just like, in general, you know, I think if there was a more viable alternative, people would have gone that direction. It was just a case of, like, we have to. But, but the bigger point being that I think that the, the people have kind of spoken on like, this billionaire is. Has reached like, critical mass. Yeah.

[B]

And I thought, I thought it might. The. At Trump's inaugural address. Like, I, I had never seen that before and maybe it existed. But just like, it struck me very odd that Zuckerberg, Bezos, they were all.

[A]

Like, on the pedestal with him in the inauguration.

[B]

Like, yeah, like, involved in. Obviously, billionaires have always been behind the scenes, but to be sitting right there, I was like, this is weird. I think that, that felt very oligarchy.

[A]

Yes. I think the Ma Maga movement became. I think the Maga movement, at least in Trump's eyes or their, Their, Their, their PR vision of it was like, we're gonna make America great again. Meaning, like, we're gonna be like the rock stars. It's like me and my billionaires and we're powerful and we're rich and like, we run the world. And like, I could see where that might be a viable campaign. And people, People are gonna like this. And it does. It resonates with enough people that it works. And. But I think also a lot of people looked at that and like, this isn't good.

[B]

Well, I mean, I think after Musk burned out in a month. After Musk, everything failed in a month. Everyone's like, maybe these guys aren't the guys.

[A]

Yeah, right. Right.

[B]

These aren't the saviors. You probably should have realized that beforehand, but I don't think Doge really helped out too much. The oligarch plan.

[A]

Did you see Kanye, the clip of Kanye and Elon talking relationships?

[B]

No.

[A]

First of all, it was crazy. They were inside of, like, what looks to be like a. Like, a padded room. I don't know what kind of room they were in. They were laying on their backs, just side by side talking. So already like, that crazy. And. And Elon, you know, the way he talks. So he's like, so you wouldn't. Like, even you and Kim are. You look on. On good terms. You guys like talking, and Kanye's kind of like, I don't know. Whatever, man. He's like, yeah, me. Me and. Me and Grimes, we have a. A. A text chat. And in the same chat, she'll be like, I love you. And then like, I hate you. And I'm like, I don't know, man. Like, and he's like, what do you think of that? And kind of sort of like, Kanye's like, so what do you say back, man? And I was like, this is just insane. Got these two clearly mentally ill on the spectrum. Billionaire weirdos are just like, my girlfriend's crazy. How about yours? Mine's crazy, too. Most universal experience. I don't know. It was a clip that I saw on Twitter. I don't know what it was like originally from, but it was just like, I almost have to do. I do want to go watch that full thing. What the is this, man? When they were laying, imagine just laying side by side. It was almost like you're like a sleepover, you know? Yeah, go to bed, but you're still talking. I used to be like, so who win a fight like a tiger or a lion? Yeah, like, so you're crazy girlfriend. Is she crazy?

[C]

It's also crazy. Like, none of us have heard of that. Like, imagine filming that and it got, like, 100 views.

[B]

The Elon Kanye, mental asylum talk.

[C]

And now both your wives are like, piss at you.

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[C]

Start by addressing your shirt.

[A]

Sorry. Oh, I was going to.

[B]

Do you know what it is?

[C]

Yeah, that's the Colt.

[A]

Have you seen the back of it? My shirt?

[C]

Oh, wait. Team 97 Nike.

[B]

What?

[A]

So, okay, yeah, let's. We'll start with this. No, no, I love this because this is actually. This is. I think this is going to be my new brand is stupid T shirts. I bought one that was the Napster logo and I love that. It was like a. It's got to be like a nostalgic throwback is what I'm realizing. I got a Napster shirt. Everyone that saw that was like, oh, Napster. I remember those days. And it like, sparked a conversation. Do people.

[B]

Do you know that's. That's Dakota Johnson in. In the Social Network.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

In the Social Network, when Sean Parker. Justin Timberlake, like, sleeps with that girl for the first time and she gets in the shower and.

[A]

Oh, yeah, she's.

[B]

He's like, laying in her bed using her and he finds out, like, what's nap. Oh, no. He's like, what's Facebook? Yes, that's Dakota Johnson. Why?

[C]

What was she doing?

[A]

It's actually.

[B]

That's that character. That.

[A]

The person playing that character.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is Dakota Johnson.

[B]

Dakota Johnson. Wow, that's cool. That's like her. Like. I don't know if it's her first role, but obviously it's a very small role. But I was watching it fairly recently. I was like, that's Dakota Johnson. What the hell?

[C]

She's Nepo, right?

[B]

She is, yeah. Yeah. But you're also. No, she's not.

[C]

Sorry. She's very small. I wasn't saying she's not.

[B]

She is Don Johnson's daughter. And she's Don Johnson's daughter. And Antonio Banderas is Her stepdad. I forget who her mom is, but whenever I'm like, who's the bad one? Who's the Nepo baby? Who you don't think should be acting?

[C]

Wait, no, I actually, I'm all for.

[B]

No, I know.

[C]

I'm not seizing an opportunity if you aren't a Nepo baby, but even just, like.

[B]

Like, the current ones, I'm like, who's bad?

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, who would you. Who would you. Who do you think does not deserve this? Yeah, no, I'm sure there are plenty at lower levels, but, like, when they yell at the older ones or, like, the more popular ones, I'm like, well, those are talented ones.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, yeah, you want to yell at the ones who are getting these tiny little roles.

[A]

Well, that's the thing, is that if. If you are getting big enough roles, it's prob. You started out with little roles and, like, proved yourself, because, like, I'm not also, by the way, like, no one's giving somebody, like, a major role for Don Johnson's daughter.

[B]

He's a.

[A]

He was a big deal, but it's not like it's like, a current superstar that, like, runs Hollywood or something.

[B]

I don't think there's any, like, actor, director, writer who's like, I'm. I'm happy at least again, the ones we're talking to and the ones we always refer to as Nepo babies.

[A]

I'm sure. I guarantee. I guarantee there are ones who. Who. Who don't deserve to be on a set at all, who have, like, a minor role, and it's like, that could have gone to a more deserving person. Anyone who's, like, also now famous.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Probably got there. Yeah.

[B]

Haley Bieber is not really a Nepo baby. Yeah. But. Sorry, let's talk about the shirt.

[A]

So I just. I mean, Heaven's Gate. Do you know that? Do you know what happens? So they, like, this was a big deal for. At least for me in 1997, the Hale BOP Comet was coming through the sky. And I. I remember that comment being like that out of all the things, eclipses and comets and the, you know, blood moons and all these things, that was, like, the most visual one I can remember.

[B]

I don't remember that one. That was just before.

[A]

It was like, a big cloudy thing that was like, oh, there's the comet.

[B]

Like, what year was it?

[A]

97.

[B]

97. I feel like I should remember that, but I just don't really.

[A]

And so the comet was a big deal, and then these guys, the Heaven's Gate cult. They believed they were going to hitch a ride on the comet to heaven. So while it was passing by the earth, they all did pull the little Jonestown, drank the Kool Aid. And so they walked into this, like, bunk room. I'm sure they had some sort of, like, compound. And there was like, 30 dead people laying in bed with these sheets over them. Just the way this was, like, very eerie. Like, it's kind of like a diamond, like, triangular. The sheet over them. And they all had on the same jumpsuit and Nikes. Like, you had to discontinue whatever. Like, whatever model that was, they had to, like, cancel that because everyone was rocking the same thing. And I think they had purple. Purple sheets over them.

[C]

It's always purple.

[A]

Super eerie.

[C]

Dude.

[B]

Those back on sale.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. It's like the bronco of shoes, particularly.

[B]

This day and age. Those incredible would go crazy.

[A]

Yes, yes. And so it's always been a little bit of, like, a sneaker thing, like Nikes. So that's why it's a Nike. Like, the shirt is like a Nike commercial, basically. And it says, away team 97.

[C]

Kanye. Kanye's Adidas.

[A]

Adidas. Well, was Adidas.

[B]

Yeah, that's actually.

[A]

There's. There's a. There's a little. There's a big hubub in the sneaker world and. And fashion world over that as well. Adidas just put out, like. Like a shoe. So Pharrell had a. Had like one of those rubber, like, slip on shoes. Yeah, the. And they were called the octopus or something like that.

[B]

I don't know. Jellyfish.

[A]

They're called Jellyfish. The Jellyfishes. And then so that was like a. That was like a Yeezy. Very hot in the streets. Low quantity, crazy high resale, a lot of buzz. And then just like several months later, Adidas comes out with what they called the squids. And they're just like a knockoff version, but they're available to everyone for, like, 100 bucks. And, like. And a lot of people are like, a, you know, Adidas is kind of like themselves by, like, making their own bootleg. And B, a lot of people are always go back to being like, kanye was right. Like, Kanye's crazy and he's a Nazi. But, like, when. When he says that everyone jacks his style and what he says goes, and he decides the trends and all that. It was kind of like a win, you know, win for Kanye. But it is. I. I think that the idea of, like, do you keep the hype and keep a shoe or a clothing piece or something. Keep it rare or if you got it, like, make it available and make your money.

[B]

I always think about that, particularly with the two. Two brands lately, supreme and Fear of God, where, like, I'm always like, did you want to be what you are now? Because, like, now you're not really cool. Now you're so popular. Now you're like, kind of like when you founded the company, did you do it for money? Because I feel like they're both.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Both things are completely fair and valid.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Did you want to start a cool brand or did you want to get. Make money? And particularly with like, Fear of God and supreme, those were 10 years ago.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Those were, like, hard to get and all that stuff. And now it's like every corner you see every in a Fear of God.

[A]

Essential sweatshirt, bar mitzvah, like, gear, you.

[B]

Know, like, are you like, the people. Jerry.

[A]

Jerry Lorenzo.

[B]

Lorenzo. I was going to say Depitrio. I knew it was an Italian Jerry Lorenzo. And no, he's.

[A]

He's. He is the former Mets manager, son.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Jerry Manuel? Yeah.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it was a weird one because I remember, like, I was obviously rooting for the Mets, and then I knew who Jerry Lorenzo was, and I was following Fear of God on their come up. And then when I realized they were like, it's like, wait, what? Hold on.

[B]

What? But, yeah, it's just always like, I.

[A]

Don'T know, you know, the answer is like, I want them both. And I actually think you kind of can have both. Like, I know what you mean reputation wise. But, like, Jerry Lorenzo is still getting invited to, like, Runway shows for sure. And you know what I mean? So it's not like you're, like, not cool. I think you got to just, like, find that balance. Because at the end of the day, I mean, I guess it really does just deter. Depend on what you set out to do. Like you said, I would think that most people, whatever business they start, is ultimately about the money, but maybe if you're already well off or something, you're not. You don't care about it at all.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, but you all, like, you.

[B]

Can also just, like, get to a point where, like, I have enough money and this is cool. Well, then the other thing, though, here.

[A]

In the Adidas world, that is all true for Jerry Lorenzo. Whoever created Supreme. What's his name? What's his name?

[B]

Oh, Ronnie Feig. Ronnie was supreme, dude.

[A]

No, no, I'm saying, like, all those guys like, are in control of their brand. You know, Adidas is different. I think Adidas, like, worked with Kanye, works with Pharrell, but yeah, no, it's definitely traded.

[B]

Yeah, Adidas is different, but, like, your own, like, when it's yours, I guess again, you. You eventually get to a point, I guess Dave would even be a person to ask this question too, just because it's gotten so much bigger than what it was. Like, is there a point where. I guess now that the brand is massive and I mean, this barstool, fear of God supreme, all those, like, I'd be curious. Is there a point where you wish you stopped so, like, where it got just, like, it was big, big, big, but you just wish it didn't get to X level.

[C]

Once you brought up pop singers too, like, or indeed a pop.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Once you brought up barstool, it made me think a little differently because when. When I think about barstool, I think there are things we do right. I think there are things we do wrong. And. But ultimately I'm like. I feel like we used to be, like, more like cutting edge, more ahead of the curve, and. And now we're not quite so as much. But when I think of that, I always go, that's just kind of like the natural life cycle of brands and companies. So in that regard, I think I would almost be, like, at peace with it. It's like I had my come up and then I had my moment where I was cool, and now this is like the sellout moment or the dinosaur moment, and it'll probably, like. And then I, you know, 10 years from now, I do it again, you know, So I think. I think it's almost just a natural occurrence that I don't know if you can fight it. I don't know if you could. I think it's out of your hands in. In some regards. Like, of course you can control your. But like, if you are really cool, the next. The next phase of that is like mass adoption.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't think you can stop that. Right. And so it's like you're almost a victim if you want to stay cool. Don't get that cool.

[B]

Mass level in order to just keep growing. Like, if you stayed at the cool level, you would just be. It would eventually die out.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So you have to get to that next level in order to. Yeah. Obviously, I don't know the answer. I'm just curious.

[A]

From a. From a designing point of view or company point of view, employees, all that sort of like, you would have to intentionally halt your growth in other areas.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where it's like, I want a warehouse. I want to. I want to do this and that. I want to hire more people. Me. Okay, good. Check. Good. You know, if you. If you have bigger. You have big aspirations for other parts of your business, you would have to intentionally stay like, let's just keep it two shops. I don't want to hire any more people. I don't want to do those collabs. I don't want to work here, there. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And once you do those things, it reaches a level where I think it kind of gets out of your hands. Adidas is different. Where it's like, they're like, we're gonna make this for the. The public. Like, you know, we're not. It would be crazy for them to just be like, we're only gonna make 200 pairs. And, like, that's it, you know? But I could see, like, Kanye or Pharrell being like, well, then I'm not worried with you anymore. So, like, you run the risk of that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's like. But. But then I also think there's a world where it's like, the. Like, the cool people who, like, know will, like, continue to buy the Pharrell designed ones when they first come out. And, like, the bar mitzvah kids get the mass produced ones, and you kind of can. They kind of can coexist without it ruining the whole thing. But that, I think, is the. Whether you're talking about clothing. But wait.

[B]

Created this. The sneaker was Adidas, and then Adidas made a cheap one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel they did with the Yeezys too.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Right? They did, like, that's the ultra boost.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, the Yeezy was this one.

[A]

Yeah. They just kind of tweaked it a little bit.

[C]

Would you say that KITH is now, like, on the level of supreme in terms of, like.

[A]

I'd say probably now it's kind of like, like. But I also, like, when I see KITH is funny because I. They also just do the thing where they just take all the other. You know, it's just a Coca Cola.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're just taking out.

[B]

That's also kind of the point of it too, where you're like. And the kids always been that way. I think the first time I ever was like, I'm over KITH was like, it was just a Coke T shirt.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. You want me to pay to be a Coke advertisement? That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. And sometimes those collabs are cool if you're. I think what it is is just like if you were like a die hard coke fan. Yeah. Then, you know, just tapping into all these different fan bases. Some of those, those are cool. Some of them, I think are just like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's not even like your logo or your design. But to me, that's like the, the push and pull of anything, you know, is the money and the cool factor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Popularity versus selling out and, and all.

[C]

That sort of Abercrombie kind of tried to like, really remember where they tried to not to let fat people, like, wear their clothes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Major backlash there. I think it's like once it's out of your hands, like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There are some things I think that it just, it goes, you know, like, even, even American Eagle. It's like they, like, they picked that, that spokeswoman, they did that campaign. So it's not like it was like by accident or like, oh, what do we do now? But I think now it's like out of their hands, you know, it's like, well, I, we didn't want to become. Or maybe they did, I don't know. But I could, I could see them being like, we're the middle of like, the political zeitgeist now. Like, we were just trying to move.

[B]

Jeans, you know.

[A]

But. Yeah. So anyway, cult T shirt.

[C]

Wait real quick. Did they, so did they think that the comet was going to take out Earth?

[A]

No, I, they, I, I believe they thought they were gonna, like, like, drink this and you're gonna die and you're gonna, like, go up to the comet.

[B]

And it's like, your spirit's gonna get caught.

[A]

You're like, I think they thought they were gonna hitch a ride on the, on the wagon, on the, on the comet.

[C]

Did they have, like, a reason to believe how.

[A]

Okay, no. The logistics fascinate me the most because there had to be at least one person who went around and I guess that maybe you could drink your poison, lay down over your head, and then stay still until you die. But I would imagine there was somebody to, like, make sure everyone. What?

[B]

I wouldn't be able to stay still while they wait.

[A]

It was 1997, so things were different.

[B]

But I'd be like, I just sit there. I'd definitely be up pacing.

[A]

Oh, wait, it started hitting. Can you feel it coming?

[B]

It would be like, it'd be a thing.

[A]

But if there's any other, you know, I know there's a lot of, like, dumb. Of course there's a million novelty T shirts. We like, make them here at Barcelona Sports for years. This is nothing new, but there's a difference between like a good one and a stupid. Like just like a generic, you know? Yeah, I saw this one. I was like, I need that. I remember Heaven's Gate. I like that. The Napster one. Napster was a big deal. So if anybody has any good, nostalgic 90s washed up type of T shirts like that sent on my way.

[C]

Like conversation starters.

[A]

Yeah. Because that's really what I liked about it is when I wore the Napster one, just so many people were like, oh, remember downloaded this? What was your first song? And then this is legitimately a conversation piece. And even this, like. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's a little weird to be walking around with dead body on your back, but I'm sure there are people. Like, the families of these people are like, it's not a joke, man. All right, what else do I got? Went to the Knicks game the other night.

[B]

How was that? Would you play the Knicks?

[A]

Wizards? The Wizards are atrocious.

[B]

Forgot they were a team.

[A]

Yeah. And they have, like, nobody. They have Alex Saar and like nobody else. And I. So I went into the game. So it was CYO night, which means nothing other than I think they take some of the profits and they donate. It's like the CYO organization, but as far as the game itself. So Keegan and his basketball team and some of his buddies, we all got together and we went to the game. So first off, I was. It was. We all kind of sat in the same section, but separately. So I'm sitting next to Keegan and then to my right are, was a kid who went to the same high school as me. And so he introduced himself. So I'm talking to him and his girlfriend and my son. And I was like, the Wizards stink. Like, we're gonna blow them out. Like, this is a great night. We're gonna win. And to start, it was like a chippy back and forth battle. Knicks were playing sloppy in the second quarter. It was tied at like 40. And they were looking at me like, what are you talking about, old man? Like, what the. You know, And I was like, just wait, just wait, just wait. And then the Knicks came out in this. In the second half, third quarter, they outscored him 41 to 24. And like a blink of an eye, they're up by 30. And I was like, told you so. And they were like, whoa. I felt like a sports analyst clairvoyant. I told you the Wizards stink. So. So that was funny.

[B]

And then, so funny. I was like. Because I deal with that with my dad. Like, my dad will like predict game stuff and he doesn't get it right. I get so mad every time. I'm like, why don't you just watch the game? Like he'll do every play is the 10 yard seam route under Henry and it's like, it's a hand. Why'd you say that?

[A]

Because. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Because once I was right and people were giving me credit, I was like, that's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if it was a 10 yard slam pass, he would have been like.

[B]

Here'S an important information for the dads. We remember the wrongs. Yeah.

[A]

It's the Tony Romo effect.

[B]

Remember the Tony Romo? Exactly.

[A]

In the beginning, everyone was like, wow. And then he got like 10 in a row wrong. We're like, shut the up, dude.

[B]

So happy. Because, like, Romo is exactly what I think of.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Why did you, like, if you weren't positive, why did you say anything? It's just a strange thing to say.

[A]

But, but I think, I mean, the, the, the. The praise and adulation that he. That Romo got in the beginning, I think is why people try to do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because in the beginning, people were like, he is the great, the most brilliant football mind of all time.

[B]

It's like people go to a game like, I've never. Sox have never lost when I'm here. What do you mean? How many games have you been. 7.

[A]

Over the course, like three decades.

[C]

Isn't that kind of how like every basketball game goes where it's like always a tie until. I mean, you know, my dad says.

[A]

That all the time you only have to watch the last two minutes of basketball and that and it just turns into a free throw shooting contest. You're not wrong.

[B]

Not wrong.

[A]

You are not wrong. People were doing that with, with Jaden Daniels injury. I was listening to Rosenberg and Ebro. They were talking about that. And Rosenberg, because he's a commander's fan, was saying that people were like, it's. It was this in the same building as RG3. And he was like, yeah, they played.

[B]

On the same team where they play.

[A]

And it was like it was in the same quarter. And he was like, there's only four quarters.

[B]

Like, these are.

[C]

CYO basketball. Is that. That's like nationwide?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Is that the only, like, organization, Children's organization that's nationwide?

[A]

Yeah. Like that.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

There's probably like, 50, 000 of them.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure there's a Jewish version of it. There's.

[C]

There's.

[B]

I'm sure there's a Muslim version of it.

[C]

I just feel like they got it, like, in terms of, like, almost like politics. I feel like CYO is thriving. It's been thriving.

[A]

I mean, CYO is a institution for sure.

[B]

Our CYO court was so sick.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was like, in, like, an old, like, like really old building. That was very cool. I didn't play and I was very bad, but it was fun to be in an old building.

[A]

It was so, so CYO night. It was like a. A ton of kids, obviously, and they got on the Jumbotron 2, which was like that. That was probably the highlight of that. He was on the Jumbotron for, like, two seconds. And, you know, they. I was like, you would have thought Keegan was starring in the final season of Stranger Things.

[B]

Well, actually, that kind of what you were both just saying about, like, basketball, how points score too many. That was probably my biggest issue with basketball as a player. What, like, score too much? Oh, because I like, when I score, you want to be like, yeah, I have fun.

[A]

Yeah. You have to, like, hit a bucket and be like, that's. That's just business.

[B]

I did. I would. Every single time I would hit a bucket, which was not often the fact that I just repeated you, because I didn't even know what you call it every time I just went, swish. I'm not going back to college to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber One for students. It saves you on Uber and UberEats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 10 off smoot movies, and 6% Uber credits back on rides. Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think college is for.

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[B]

I would have to run back down the court to play defense. Like, covering my mouth. Because you're so excited.

[A]

I mean that. I don't know how old you were. Probably like 18. We were talking about that, like, at Keegan's level. Level, like, the place goes bonkers when they hit a shot because the games are like 10 to 8.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's almost like a baseball game where a run, like, matters. So at that level, people are still like, yeah, at that point, you're supposed to be like, we're gonna score like, 60 more times. We gotta. We gotta.

[B]

That was a three from the corner. You know, imagine the whole team jumping on me and we going nuts.

[A]

I always thought, take it a step further. I always thought to myself, I should be able to average 20 points a game. I should be able to get through each quarter. Just two baskets. Yeah, like. Like you have one play where you make it happen. You cut somebody up, you go to the hoop, you laid up, you got your two points, you earned it. You should get one other bucket per quarter that just, like, falls into your lap. I gotta rebound and put it back there. There's a couple points there. Get to the free throw line and, you know, score five points a quarter and you average 20 points a game. Everybody should, you know, I average like, 1.7 points a game. The funniest thing the. Is going on the best is, like, scoring, like, the first two buckets of the game. Like, I am going for. I'm on pace for 70, 75.

[B]

I always thought that, like, when. When Dana would always brag that double double, like, he's a double double, he'd average like 10 and 12. I always thought that was him saying I was a bench guy.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

I didn't realize that was like, I'm good.

[A]

I guess if you just break it down by, like, there's, you know, five guys on the court, and they're all going to get their shots. And so you just break down how many opportunities you actually have to shoot. But I was watching Brunson. He was playing poorly, and I was like, he's still gonna end up putting up, like 25 because you just kind of get a cut as long as the ball's in your hands. You get a few buckets here and there.

[C]

Is there a reason that we're all, like, committing to buckets?

[B]

It's how people talk about basketball. It's just. I don't talk about basketball.

[A]

One of the. There's a Philly sports guy. He used to work on the WFAN in New York. Now he's a host in New in. In Philly named Spike Eskin. And he came out with a take. He said, I'm not impressed with what. With what Wemby is doing because he's such a freak that he should be doing it. But kind of, like I said, right. So a lot of people were like, you're a idiot. And. But he's, like, committing to this take. And he said that a. Like this scientific nerdy type guy DM'd him and did all the math and compared Wemby to like a five foot nine guy. So like a hoop is ten feet, he is seven foot like two. So the equivalent would be me a five, nine guy playing on. It was something like, like a. Barely a seven foot hoop, not even an eight foot hoop. It was like six, six or seven feet. And then it was like his wingspan is xyz, so the dimensions of the court like it feels different for him, you know, and, and then the, the ball like his hands are this big and a ball is this big. So he did all the math and it's the equivalent of like a 5 foot 9 guy playing on a tennis court size. So there's so much more room for him to operate on like a six and a half foot hoop with a ball that is this like, like in between like a. It's like a volleyball. Almost like, almost something like, almost like anybody could palm.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's still a stupid take but it was interesting to like fully to think about all of the metrics of like this is what it's like for Wemby to play and it, it's just.

[B]

But then you gotta think about the metrics of what it's like for Wemby to walk, you know, not to not die. Yeah.

[A]

For his heart to pump blood to his toes and his head.

[B]

Yeah. Like I'd be interested in those metrics because I've seen a seven foot person, a tall one. Connor. Connor. I forget his last name. But we used to have a guy, right. Conor o', Toole, I think. Yeah, he was, I think he was 7:1. He was called the tall one was his barstool name. And I think he was 7:1 and he was. He's obviously the monster. And he couldn't walk around the office.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like he would just bump in like just because he was so big.

[A]

Yeah. And so, so to be like gracefully like running to do that is that, that's that, that is the counter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it was interesting to be like, you know, this is like you playing with a tennis ball and like a little tyke's hoop. It's like that would be pretty easy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But it's also, I can't. It's also like you can't the size of a building, dude. I have a hard time moving with this body, let alone every time I stand up.

[C]

I remember though like when I, I played basketball for two years I was B team but whatever. But like I remember, I remember like.

[A]

Being pissed Jackie reminiscing about her sports careers.

[C]

I just remember saying, like, I was. I don't like, like I feel like people are in my way all the time or whatever. And they were kind of like, that's the. That's the whole point. But like I said by it today because, like, people's hand, they're always in my face. Like, people were always like, blocking. Their arms are everywhere. And like, I was just trying to get to the basket of the bucket, obviously. And like, they wouldn't let me, like, whatever. But if you're tall, you're not experiencing that. Like, hands in the face. Like, oh, my God, the hands in the face would fucking piss me off. And everyone's sweating on you and all that. When you're tall, you're not experiencing that as hard. So it's such a leg up that it's like, if you are tall and playing basketball, I don't respect you. You actually don't know the sport. You don't know.

[B]

You. Saying, like, people sweat on you. Remind one of my favorite stories. My buddy grew up in Massachusetts. He was a bigger guy and he lived on the same block as. I believe they were twin sisters, at least sisters who were like, Massachusetts, like, players of the year. Like, they were great, great high school basketball players. And the. They wanted to play two on two one day, like with him and his buddy. And. And so he had the idea that before they play get sweaty, he's gonna run a few laps around the house, get sweaty, and then play skins. And he just backed them down in 1:12 nothing.

[A]

The whole time. It's like straight up, he's like, I was in school.

[B]

The next day is being like, girls couldn't even be me. That's.

[A]

That's the trick. Next time we're arguing, like, could a WNBA team defeat an NBA team? The guy sweat too much.

[B]

They wouldn't want any part of that.

[C]

I do wonder because the basketball is so sweaty. Like, is it ever a tactic to not put on deodorant? So it's kind of just like a.

[A]

It throws you off. Ewing used to sweat, bro. Like, dripping off his chin like water po. Like, it's crazy. It was like a minute into the game, I was like, this guy warmed the up pads. When do you remember? Did you have a moment like, I. I probably peaked in basketball. I definitely peaked in basketball in like eighth grade. I was still a little bit bigger than everyone. I think I was like, a little bit more skilled and like, the game. And then the game caught up and I one of the main things I remembered was defense went from like, slide your feet and keep them in front of you to like, I'm gonna get up in your. Like, I'm gonna try to take that ball every single time I can, you know? Yeah. And I just remember being probably like in that middle school range when someone was like, up on you, like, swiping. I was like, bro, wait, dude, no. Like, yeah, you're supposed to just kind of like shuffle your feet. I move this way and you move that way. And if I go to the hole, you kind of get in front of me. But you're not like, all up in my. And as soon as, like, because I wasn't strong enough and people whacking it and I. I just like, they would take the ball from me every time and I was like. It was the same thing as in baseball. When they started throwing curveballs. I was like, I'm out. This is just pass me by. But it was like, I remember a clear jump of like, oh, yeah. Because it was almost like everyone tries on the offensive end, but not the defensive end. And once people really committed to defense, like, intensely physical, pushing, grabbing. I was like, I don't like this anymore. I played. I played AU basketball with. We were all white team, but, like, we were well coached. Had a couple guys, like, play Division 2, Division 3. That was always the thing when it was like, like, white guys play black guys. It was always like, well, we're well coached and we play like, good defense. We play fundamental and like. But it does work sometimes. I've watched fundamental white guys beat, like, the flashiest, most athletic black guys just by like a backdoor pass sometimes give teams hell. But like, most of the time, I mean, like, we were like in sixth grade and like, I'd look at the opposing team and be like, for the next two hours, I'm going to be full core press. Yeah. Getting hit through, like. Like, we just don't have a chance. And that. That is the. One of the most demoral. I'm trying to think the most demoralizing thing in sports, and I think one of them is when you are insanely overmatched in basketball. It's the least fun you will ever have. Ever. It is just miserable. It's. It's 20 to 5 in a blink of an eye and you're like, the rest of the game. We just have to make sure we don't lose by eight. I mean, there were times, like, we couldn't get the ball over half. Yeah. And they would press the whole Time, like, and like, I, I, you know, they're, they're doing like, and one to you, breaking your ankles, throwing the ball off of you, dunking on you. It's like this. I, I mean, I, I actually think ordinarily I'm like, play against good competition to get better. I think I was like, ruined by some of those.

[B]

Certainly a thing.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I kind of went through that with Keegan. Like, I definitely put Keegan into a baseball team too early for him that I thought ended up being okay. And in the long run, I think it just, like, made him sour on baseball in general. And it's like, I, that one. I remember the day that I realized I wasn't going to the NBA. I was, I was 29, so like a junior in high school. Like, or, like, even just like, I wasn't playing divisional basketball. A D3 coach, a high D3 coach came to scout me and I had seven threes. And then they talked after the game and he's like, I still don't think he's good enough. What else possibly done? I went seven for nine. I think almost those are like an eye test of like, you just didn't jump high enough, fast enough. You could have hit a thousand threes. Like, they're gonna run circles. But that, yeah, that's, that's his demoralizing. You think? I just did it. I just, I just had my moment in front of the scouts. It's like, no, they hate you. What were you gonna say, Jack?

[C]

Oh, well, well, I was just saying, like, I also remember thinking with soccer, when somebody got the ball for me, I was like, yeah, that's fair. Like, it would be fine. But when somebody got the ball from you in basketball, it's just kind of like, I'm trying to do something here.

[A]

We're trying to, like, run a play. I want to dribble around. You're about to play.

[C]

Feels more like you're getting in my. I just don't, I just don't. I really don't with the sport. I, I said that for a long time.

[A]

But so, so we're at the game. So he gets on the jumbotron. He's happy about that. And then one of the dads sends a, a message to the, the group chat, and he says, we got this email saying any kid can get a wristband to shoot a free throw after the game. I had already planned. I was like, we're probably going to dip out at halftime. Like, we're gonna have some fun. But like, it's all school night. I'm gonna get home now. All these kids are doing this. I turned to Keegan, I'm like, yo, we can do this thing where we sign up for a free throw after the game. And he was like, nah, I don't.

[B]

Want to do that.

[A]

My, my, absolutely. My biggest challenge with my son will be like, he is like me now in that, like, he doesn't want to do things, he just wants to chill. But I wasn't that way when I was eight. Yeah, you know, you're, you're like a cural man.

[C]

So that's.

[A]

I'm trying. So I was like, okay, let me rephrase. We're doing this, all your friends are doing it. I'm not gonna like, let you be the only one not in it. So anyway, we go, we have to go up to the top of MSG in the third quarter to sign up and get our wristbands. So I start filling out the paperwork and I go to the guy and he goes, what's your name? I put my name. And he's like, and you bought the tickets? It's like, yeah. He's like, you're not in the system. And I was like, here's my confirmation. And he's like, oh, it was only like the first, you know, thousand people or something like that. And you were, you must have bought your tickets late, which I did, so you're not on it. And he goes, so we're gonna need those wristbands back. And I was like, sure thing. I was like, yeah, I'll be right back. Let me get my son's wristband for you. See you later. He's like, yeah, can you take that? I was like, you want me to go to my 8 year old son who now by this point, by the way, is excited about it. All his friends are talking about it, so now he's in on it. You are the one person in our group who will not get to do this. Take that off and give it back to this man. Get the out of here. So I said, I just kind of skirt him away and I tell him, like, don't tell anybody this, but we're sneaking in anyway at the game ends. And now at this point, I'm also thinking there's going to be a billion kids. They have to get everyone out of the building and then get everyone onto the court. Like, we're going to be here till like two in the morning. They, we, we, we're lining up. They said, go to this section. We line up, and then it. Be kind of. It kind of becomes Lord of the Flies. I. I texted him. I said, we're. We're. Everyone get there with, like, five minutes to go in the game. It's gonna be a blowout. Who cares? I want to line up. And we do that. We're like, first in line, and the line all of a sudden becomes like a cluster of people. And. And this woman starts to kind of, like, nudge her way in and is just clearly trying to cut the line. And eventually, one of the other dads kind of has words with her, and he's like, we listen. I don't want to. Like, I don't have any problems here, but we've been here for, like, half an hour now. Like, we missed the fourth quarter for this. Like, we're waiting online. Everyone's waiting online. And she just kind of, like, keeps going at him, and he's trying to be, like, peaceful, but she's going at him, and he has to, like, defend himself. And he's explaining, but it kind of starts to look like a guy and a girl, you know? So this. The. The boyfriend comes over, and he's like, what do you. What's the problem with my girl? And he. And the guy's like, I don't want. He's like, I'll yell at you. I don't want anything with your girl. And so now it's kind of causing a scene. People are starting to, like, listen. And it was just. There was this moment. I don't even know if you should tell this or whatever. This guy's cool, this one dad. Everyone's kind of now being like, what's going on? Who's in the right here? Everyone's listening, you know, And. And we're kind of explaining it all. And even the boyfriend's sort of like, all right, I get it. Like, you guys are. You were here. And the one dad goes, so then why is your girl yapping?

[B]

I was like.

[A]

I literally was, like, two feet away. And I was like, like, I'm the popcorn gift.

[B]

I was like, jerry, Jerry. Like, so why is your girl yapping? I was like, there's a chance.

[A]

People start throwing. Throwing haymakers right now. It ended up being, like, calm, but it was like that line. He's just like, so why is your girl yapping?

[C]

God damn.

[B]

So that. That's your boyfriend if that's your girlfriend? You're like, God, the worst fight now.

[A]

Have you ever done that? Have you ever, like, picked a fight? And. And that, like, a guy has to Be the, the one to deal with the repercussions. No, that is the worst. I'm not acting like it's happened a bunch to me, but it happened a couple times and it's the worst. I don't mind. I don't mind obnoxious, like, bar fighting type if you're, if there's an argument to be made, you know.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

There are times I've had to do it. I know we are in the wrong, and it's like I either have to just go against everything I feel as a human being or I have to go home and be in a fight.

[B]

I actually, I honestly don't think I would do that. If you are clearly in the wrong.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think I would anymore. There was, there was a time where I, I.

[B]

What the were you doing? Yeah, yeah.

[C]

That is objectively hilarious to do as a girl. It's just like, drop the bomb.

[B]

Yeah. Like I, when I was in my 20s. Yeah. I'd be like, all right, I gotta fight for you now. But what the was that? Are you like, Like, I'll turn to the guy.

[A]

I'll be like, listen, just don't, don't hurt her that bad. So we're waiting, and we're waiting and we're waiting. Then we find out the free throws are happening second. Happening second. First is going to be pictures on the court for the marathon runners. If you showed up to the game with your medal, you get to get on the court and take pictures. I'm already out, you know, And I'm like marathon runners now. You're like, bringing your metal out. All this it. And also, by the way, you're on the court, which is cool. But the picture itself is like the background is just like the scorers table. And it's not like I thought the players were going to be there. You could take a picture with the Knicks. It was just a picture.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're waiting and we're waiting and that has to go first. And there's one last, like, person group, and it's these foreigners who ran the marathon. I don't know where the they're from, but they're speaking in broken English. And they were the most obnoxious people I've ever come across in my life. And this girl works for msg. Her name was Emma. She was just trying to be, like, so polite and professional. And she was just like, there was only XYZ number of wristbands. And you guys didn't sign up. You were supposed to go up and sign the paperwork and get the wristband. And you didn't do it. And now the 50 people or 100 people did it. You just can't do it. And they wouldn't, they would not relent. And it was like, like it was stopping us from getting our done, you know. And I was like, this is, we're, we're doing this promotion for the kids over here and you are grown adults causing like a fight to get on the court to take a picture. And I wanted to be like, I will Photoshop. I'll send this to Paps. I'll put you into. We'll make a Sora video where you were playing in the game and you could post on Instagram like, what are we doing? And it got to the point where. And I was kind of lingering because I was like, I wanted to be like, we need to get our kids, we gotta get the out of here. It was taking so long. So I was like trying to move it along. So I'm kind of inserting myself into their beef a little bit. And the last couple to take a picture, it was a couple and their 5 year old daughter. And the woman from MSG was saying there was only like 50 entries, but you're allowed to take a picture with your family. So it looked like there was hundreds of people, but it was really like 50 people. And the guy goes like, well, how about that little girl? Like she got to go on the court and she didn't sign up. And the woman was like, well, her parents were the ones who are doing it and she's five, so they couldn't just leave her alone in the garden while they took pictures. So we allowed them for like safety sake of a child to go along for the picture. You guys are adults. It was like, I've never. And then the worst part was like, eventually this guy who, he was a stool. I didn't catch his name, but he, he recognized who I was. He eventually was like, fine, it, whatever. And I almost, I was like, I really wish you didn't do that. I was like, this is like an injustice. Those people should have gone home without a picture. So obnoxious. And the worst part was he was like, fine, come, come, you can do it. And he goes, come on. And I swear to God, 20 Polish people or whatever come out of like the tunnel.

[B]

And I was like, you've got to be.

[A]

I was irate. I was like, I made sure I said to that girl and the guy after like a million times, thank you so much. You were so Patient. You were so professional. Because I was like, these people. I just kept thinking about when people were like, oh, Americans. Like, you can smell them a mile away. And they're. And I was like, you're probably right on that, but we feel the same way, too. We can spot you a mile away. Anyway, we finally get on the court to do our thing, and everyone gets one free throw. And Keegan was like. Like, you would have thought that this was, you know, game seven of the finals. And I was like, bro, it's not about whether you make it or miss it. Like, you're on. He. He almost didn't even get it at first. He was like, I don't even care. I was like, this is a bucket.

[B]

You're on the court. Yeah.

[A]

I was like, Michael Jordan scored 55 on this court. LeBron, Colby, Jordan. Like, everybody.

[C]

Like the Knicks, Ewing, Spreewell, LJ.

[A]

And he was like, okay, cool, whatever. And I was like, you're gonna. I was like, billy Madison, you're gonna love this one day. But he was like, this free throw was live or die. And every kid was stepping up, like, beyond the free throw line. And I was like, do that, do that. And he was like, no, I'm shooting a real free throw. And any. Any, like, off the fingers. I was like, I'm filming him. Like, it's going in. It was like. And it just missed. And he was beside himself. It was like. It was like it ruined it. He was like, that wasn't even fun. Like, I missed a shot. I was like, I know, but wasn't it so cool? He's like, no, I missed it. And I was like, like, I'm really happy. You're one of these kids who cares about winning and losing and. And doing well. Like, when we lose a football game, he really takes it hard. And, like, I'm like, I'd rather a kid be, like, a competitor and a winner than just not caring, but, man, chill out. It was cool. We got a picture. We're on the car.

[B]

We got Jack, missed half of them.

[A]

He's good. Good. But it. It was funny, too. So, like, we end up getting home at, like, midnight. It's a school night. Night. We wake up in the. I put him right to bed. We wake up in the morning. I let him sleep in. So now we're, like, rushing, and he's got blue and orange spray hair, spray paint in his head that one of the dads sprayed up ahead of time because he wants to get on the Jumbotron. We didn't take A shower at the end of the night. So he wakes up in the morning. I can't send him to Catholic school with orange or blue. I also don't want to make him take a full shower because it's the morning we're trying to get out the door. So I'm like, let's just put your head in the sink and I'm going to rinse it out. And there's orange, like, water just, like, all over the place now. And it was almost the children's equivalent of a hangover. He was so tired in the morning, had to get up and go. And he was like, as I'm washing it out, he's cold, he's wet, and he's like, this was so stupid. I'm never doing this again. I was like, you'll probably have spray paint in your hair by Thursday night. But it was like, this is a hangover. It was fun, but I'm never doing this again. This wasn't worth it to ruin my morning.

[B]

Like, yeah, man. Do a little orange and blue in the morning. Just one. Just. Just a little bit to get me right. Dad, you.

[C]

For my, like, 16th birthday, I. I was like. It was like, me and my friends and, like, I convinced everyone to get, like, boxed hair dye. Then we all woke up and. But I had opted out of actually dy.

[B]

My.

[C]

They all woke up like, bleach.

[B]

What an. Like, yeah, sorry.

[C]

They were pissed. And all their hair for the rest of, like, the semester was orange because it was like, brown.

[A]

Oh, my God, you opted out.

[C]

You.

[B]

Andy Bernard, your whole class.

[A]

They looked so bad.

[B]

That's a great. Andy Bernard has a line where he's like. He convinced his whole junior class to not take the SATs because it was unfair or something like that. And he's like, I took him. I panicked last minute and took him. Got 1240 into Cornell.

[A]

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[B]

It's insane. It still happens. Yeah. Like, I know it is insane. Like, like, we, we do like, like, we as a people, I feel like, are always like, yeah, it's how it is for chicks on the Internet. But it is crazy.

[A]

It's like, it just is. And so, you know, the other side of it, there are people, like, she opens herself up to this. You know, she's a. She has a Instagram presence. She posts pictures. Yes. There's truth to that. She has 4 million followers. She gets to do the Internet Invitational. And I'm sure she makes a pretty good living. And so people. You got to take the good with the bad. And then there are also people who are like this. It doesn't matter. Like, there are bigger things to worry about in the world. Those two things are true. But also, like, I always hated that when it's like, oh, they're starving kids in Africa. It's like, well, now do we. We only have to operate based on, like, the lowest.

[B]

Dude, I complain when it's raining out.

[A]

Yeah. Like, there are things that just suck. And one of them is if. If tons of people are telling you, you hate yourself, we hate you, and you should kill yourself. If you watch Paige's video, it's actually pretty, pretty, like, you know, sad. It's Also, I'm pretty sure Paige Branick just came out to the world as autistic.

[B]

Why?

[A]

She's just like, I, I don't make friends well. I don't, I'm not social. I always say the wrong thing at the wrong time. I always feel uncomfortable. I'm not like, effortlessly very well liked. And so I have to plan out what I'm gonna say and what I'm gonna do. And I was just like, oh, yeah, we're all autistic. It is sad. But I was like, yeah, I think you're just on the spectrum. But yeah, I mean, to me it's just like girls always get treated differently. They do. It's like, I, I know. And people always kind of respond that you're white knighting and you're just like a to. You're saying it because they're, you know, you want to these girls. And it's like, I don't know. We saw it happen with Rhea. We've seen it happen with a lot of people who come on our show as a guest. They come into the barstool world. And it's not just barstool, it's the Internet in general. But you just get more hate. And, and then especially for her, she's almost like the Sydney Sweeney effect where like, I mean, Paige Brandon, I think is like one of the most beautiful people in the world. Yeah, there's hot and then there's like striking. People take note of it and you get a career because of it. Like, that's just always going to come with, with a lot of attention, but a lot of jealousy and a lot of like, incels who hate you, you know? And I, yeah, there's just nothing you can do about that.

[B]

Like, it is, it is, it's, it's, it is just part of the world, I guess. Like, you just, you just know what's gonna happen. My argument is always, well, you don't have to look at it. Yeah, well, she's a girl we were talking about.

[A]

She's like, kind of, what should I do?

[B]

It's crazy. It's very unfortunate that the world is the way it is, but you can stop looking at it. That is an option. Right?

[A]

That's your line.

[B]

Those DMS are not your business, but people are. My DMs are saying not my business.

[A]

I also am fully okay with saying I treat guys and girls differently.

[B]

Like, I treat everybody differently. I treat, I treat everyone individually.

[A]

But I, but I, I, I, I mean, yes, we should all do that, but I do think if I were to blanket it. Like, also, I. I don't think the main thing, by the way, is I don't think Paige did anything. Like, a lot of people I haven't watched, but a lot of people are like, I watched every episode. She did not do anything to warn any hate. So, you know, it's probably like, they don't like the way she swings her club or she, like, walked through someone's line or spoke to someone's backswing or whatever. If you did something to deserve it, that's a whole different story. Like, that guy Luke Kwan was an. To everyone. And people like, that guy's an. And I was sort of like, yeah, right. But I also. Not only was it because he did something, but it's because he's a dude. And I do think that's a difference. Like, I think. I think guys will get, like, mad about stuff and girls get sad about stuff. I think everyone. Like, I feel like a lot of times I. I characterize it as women are more emotional, and I don't think that's true. After thinking through it, it's like, there's different emotions.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, I also don't think it's bad that women are more emotional. It's like.

[A]

No, that's what I mean. I don't think it's, like, good or bad, right or wrong, one more so than the other. I think it's just different. But I. I for sure, like, everyone's kind of like, we should treat everyone equally or the same. And I'm like, I just don't do that. Because if a guy. I will, like, make fun of a guy or yell at a guy or disagree with a guy or argue with him. And with a girl, if you get sad and upset and start crying or, like, it really hurts your feelings, I'm not gonna do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With a guy, I feel like, you know, and that maybe that's unfair towards men. But I just do think there is a difference, and trying to treat it as if there's not one is kind of similar. Silly, you know? Yeah. So I. I think that she was, you know, more sad than mad or whatever her reaction was. But I. I think I said this before. I really do think that the. Go. I think what we're seeing is the golf world is a little bit like, they have not had much drama or controversy or disagreement or hate yet. And I don't know if they know how to handle it yet. There's a lot of, like, freaking out over, you know, some comments or. Now Paige was Kind of over the top. She didn't really deserve it. But the other guys, it's sort of like, yeah, man, I don't know. This is how some people like you. Some people hate you. That's how it goes. But I don't think they're used to that yet. So when.

[C]

When Twitter, when, like, trolls comment, like, mean stuff on girls, it's just showing that you have been rejected by so many girls, and that's. You are outing yourself as an ugly person. And this happens, like, also, like, you know, girls will hate guys because they've been rejected and hurt and heartbroken. Like, it's the other way around. When you're, like, a mean troll, you're just showing that you seriously get no girls and that you are ugly.

[A]

And it's like. It's like, literally the incels. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What percentage. And I would ask this to you, Paige, to anybody. Like, what percentage of you you read? Like, you're mentioned and stuff like that, Right? Like, what percentage of stuff you read afterwards? Are you, like, I'm glad I read that.

[C]

No, and I actually don't.

[B]

I. If I'm being genuine, like. Like, what is like.

[A]

Like, for me, it's like, 10.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I would say, like, one out of every, like, 10 DMS or tweets. Like, I. Every now and then, I do get someone just being like, hey, man, I've listened to you, like, 15 years, and, like, you're awesome, and, like, you got me through tough time, all that, you know, and every time, I'll write back, and I genuinely mean it. I'm like, thank you for that. I really don't hear it very often, so when I do, it really actually means a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I would say that's like. And then I'll read nine more that are like, you kill yourself. Yeah.

[B]

And then you read those nine. You forget that one and the nine. Or what you. You remember.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I. I'm just trying to. I'm always trying to figure out, like, what the point of it is. I actually, you know, if you. If you're just talking to people in the street, if it was like, every time I talked to my best friend. Yeah, 90 of the time, it was awful.

[A]

I'd stop talking to that person.

[C]

I act like I read everything. I really don't like. And I would say, like, almost like, mo. Most of it is overwhelmingly nice. I actually will say, like, I read some, which I shouldn't even be reading the nice ones, but, like, it is really, really nice. And people do say, like, really really.

[B]

Like, must be nice.

[A]

I'm on an island over here. I thought we were the guys that were in a foxhole together. Ms. Popular over here, prom queen Jackie. Love it on the Internet.

[C]

I also feel like I was saying this on. On Fishbowl yesterday, and I feel like I make it sound like I'm, like, getting, like, we overwhelmed. Like, I. I don't want the people to. Whatever. Yeah, whatever.

[B]

I got you.

[C]

But that being said, it. It just bothers me. Like, it bothers me when. For Fishbowl, for example, like, I don't clip anything because out of context, like, if. If you clip anything on, like, a. No. I hate to, like, pull this card, but, like, if it's like, guys being like, would you rather have, like, a hot dog? Eat a hot dog every day or, like, hamburger. Whatever.

[A]

Whatever.

[C]

It's like, that's funny if. But if girls do it. And I hear it too, like, it's. It's just yapping. Like, it just sounds like yapping a little bit. So there's not even a point in me clipping it because just out of context, like, it just sounds different and it's gonna be received differently or I.

[A]

Think you're right that it does sound a little bit different, but it is more that it's received differently.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's not different. There is sometimes I think it's like, literally the vocal fry. Like, the sound of the voice.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Stuff like that. That. But it is more just like guys doing, like, the answer. The Internet type hypotheticals. It's like, oh, it's funny. Guys are kind of dumb. Yeah. And girls is like, they don't deserve to speak.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[C]

So, like, when it starts to frustrate me is when I'm just like, I. I never promote. Like, Fishbowl never gets promoted.

[A]

That's when you're now. Now you're doing your job, like, less than. Because of that. That's what's up.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm just like, well, there's not even a point in. Because I can't promote it.

[A]

It.

[C]

Like, there's not even a point in doing the show because there's no way to really grow it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so it's just, like, Is frustrating when, like, I don't actually care about the comments because I'm just like, you guys, whatever. You're just like.

[A]

But the impact has overall.

[C]

But the impact overall where it's just like, well, this is never going to be received. And, like, there is a way around it. And, like, that's just something to Figure out. But that's when it starts bother.

[A]

I've always said I hate when it's like, even if they're not correct or whatever, and even if there are people there, I think there are fan. Let's say there are fans of Fishbowl that like it. And they will be like, that comment's wrong. You know? But if there's enough of those comments, it just kind of like seeps into your reputation.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Where people could be like, I'm a fan of Fishbowl, but they're never gonna be like, yo, have you heard that show Fishbowl? Everybody loves it.

[B]

It's so good.

[A]

And that's how you kind of grow with that word of mouth. You're never gonna get there. If every time someone. I'm a Fishbowl fan, but I open up a clip and everyone's like, I hate you and whatever, you're probably less likely to, to talk about it, promote it, share it, all those things. Because the reputation just becomes like, oh, this is something that everybody hates. That's what sucks.

[C]

Even like with the, the Dave tweet, like, people were commenting, like, went to my Instagram. And then we're commenting like, you just like you owe an apology like crazy. Or like, people were just like, to.

[A]

Take it to another thing is always.

[B]

But you have to also, because, like, those people, like, they're not. No, they're not involved in the conversation. Like, they don't. There are so many different factors at play that they're not even aware of. Like, they're not.

[C]

I know, but. But then I'm just like, wouldn't. And I don't give a About what they say. But when it starts to annoy me is I go, okay, now all my friends and family are seeing that comment. Like, you know, I, I like, my mom, like, reads all the comments. I'm always like, stop reading them. Because, like, whatever.

[B]

That's why I stopped. I believe said that that's why I stopped. Because I, I, it would bother me that people I know thought that about me or read that other people thought that about me. About me. Yeah, but if you don't read it, you don't know.

[C]

Yeah, that's true. No, I mean, but you know what.

[A]

I've realized just very recently, I, I, because I, I've said this a couple times now. I've, like, reached a point where I kind of just got over the hump. And now I actually like it because I do still think there's value in, like, interacting and getting feedback and knowing what's going on. And that always used to come at the expense of me, like, believing some of the hate or. Or doubting myself or whatever. Once I got over it, it's now, I don't know. It's just. It's almost like a tool for me where I'm like, I'll find you disagreeing with me, and I'll reply in a comment. Just being like, oh, I understand where you're coming from, but I thought of it this way rather than be like, you, you're wrong.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just sort of like, okay, that's an interesting way that you took my video or my, my thought. I disagree with it. Have you ever thought of it this way? And, you know, most of the time, I don't even go back. It's only we have, like, a discourse or whatever, but it's like, I like that better than, like, I have to ignore it all together. I'd rather be able to consume it or know it or interact and have it not affect me.

[B]

Yeah. That it is.

[A]

That's hard to get there.

[B]

I'm also the same way as you were. Like, I, I, I used to be like, comments shouldn't be allowed. Like, now I think I encourage them. I think, like, everyone should comment. Your opinion does matter. Like, right. You should. As long as you're being honest with your opinion. That's what pisses me off when people get into the hive, like, the hive mind. Like, if you're being genuine with your opinion, you should say it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But if you're just saying what you think will get you, likes you're lame and a loser. Yeah.

[A]

You know what I also think is a big part of it is I am confident enough in, like, my own career now that, like, we've had high moments, low moments, things, shows have succeeded, failed, come and gone. And I'm pretty confident that no matter what I do, I'll be okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I could see if you're starting out, you're like, all right, let's do this fishbowl thing. And everyone's like this. You're like, well, now. Now what? Yeah, but it's like, I promise you that even if it's not fishbowl, the next thing you do will be good enough. And, like, you're good enough at this that you'll have longevity and security. So then you stop worrying, like, am I gonna get fired or am I not gonna make any money or whatever. Then it's just then it kind of becomes, you know what I. So I was sex with A bird about it, about Paige. And just like the hate. He was asking about it and he was like, it's the Internet. It's not real like we always say, you know, And I kind of had this thought of.

[B]

I used to think the Internet was insanely real, by the way.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

I think I was like fully like lived inside of it. And I was like, what are people talking about? That the Internet's not real. And then now that I'm not as on the Internet as I once was, I'm like, I can't believe I thought that was real.

[A]

This is my new like, viewpoint. I was like, you wake up in the morning, you go on the Internet. It's like you went to the movies for 10 hours. Like your workday on the Internet is like, you go to the movies.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No, you don't walk out of a movie. You're like, that was, that was just entertainment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not like, did you see what happened in that war? Or whatever? That's just fake. It's just, that's not real. So you clock in, you watch a 10 hour movie and you clock out. And it shouldn't affect you after that you're just your phone, your computer, your. Your for you page. You're just watching a series, you're watching a show, you're watching a movie and you can just leave it there.

[B]

I've said that's a crazy thing that happened today. Like bars. I thought I found social media to be like bars where it's like where you hung out when you were this age and then you changed bars.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you were like, I hung out at this bar because. And then now like Twitter, my bar, I don't really know the people there anymore. You know what I mean? Like, it's a different vibe than when I hung out there. So like I found.

[A]

Move on to a new bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really, I mean, it's just easier said than done. I think that comes with being like 40.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I think we were. We've done this long enough that I think you, in the beginning, you can't even see it or understand it. Then the second phase is you tell people you don't care, but you really do care. I don't read the comments. But you do read the comments. And then the final phase is like, I see all this, I accept all this. I don't like it. I wish it was this way or different or whatever. But it also really doesn't affect me. And I think the only way you get there is through like 10, 15 plus years. Just like, because eventually it's just like anything else. Like, like you can't get, like you can't cry about every thing every single time. Eventually you're just like, oh yeah, I'll survive. You have to go through it a million times before you know, a million and one doesn't harm you.

[B]

You got, you got to trip down that stair. A lot of you realize you're not going to break your neck.

[A]

So I like, there's no quick fix, unfortunately.

[C]

And I'm like tripping. Yeah. But I, I, and I act like I, and this is not as unbelievable, but like, I actually don't like, care about the comments as I like used to or like really that much. But, but it's the overall that bothers me. Just because I do think it's like if I say one wrong thing, it's gonna be a lot. I, I just feel like I, I gotta be careful about what I say. But it's probably more in my head.

[A]

No, no, but I mean, it's not in your head. It's like it is a real thing. It's like you, you know you're gonna get clipped or responded to, but that's all like, in a way that sucks.

[B]

That's a job. Like, that's your job.

[C]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[B]

When you're on mic, like say things you believe, say things that you're like, believe in anything.

[C]

I don't even know.

[B]

Not believe in, but just believe. Like things you're not embarrassed to say, things you're like, yes, that is true. I believe. I think that's accurate.

[A]

Or acknowledge the other side too. That's another thing I've gotten into recently. Like, I used to feel like middleman is like a bad thing. You have to take one side or the other. And I think it's like, here's what I believe. But I do understand this side of it.

[B]

I did all the time. I might be wrong. Yeah, I think I might be wrong.

[A]

I, I don't think I would have voted for Zoron and I think, think he's a little bit crazy. I hope he's good. He might not be. He might be. I don't know. Like, I'm, I'm okay with kind of discussing all of that.

[B]

I'm doing this life thing for the first time too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It is my first rodeo, so. But yeah, that, that I would tell you and like any girl that, like, it's not real and it's in your head, but Also not really, because there just is a difference, like, for sure. And guys don't want to hear that, or guys don't believe it or whatever. It's like, if you're in this industry and you've done it enough stuff, you know, that there just is a difference.

[B]

I remember when I was like, 20 to 25, like, we all get hate. It's the same. No, you start working with women and see what they deal with.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

It's different.

[A]

Right. And that doesn't make you, like, a male feminist or whatever. It's just like, it is what it is.

[C]

Can I just call out the. This guy who I. I know he.

[A]

Made a new account.

[C]

I know this guy. I've called him out. Horizon, Theos, whatever. I don't know. He made a new account and he has now, like, he just, like, kind of spams the KFC radio. He just, like, he hates. Hates me. He just hates me. He thinks I'm like, keeps. Like. He's like. He, like, keeps thinking I'm getting abortions and he keeps me, like, too many cats.

[B]

We do have a lot of cats around. Yeah.

[A]

What did he say? Like, he's like, crazy. That's the other thing is that people just will either make up or they're just not real.

[C]

He just, like, also, like, spams it and it makes it look like I'm getting just like, okay, well, I guess.

[A]

He deleted all them. This isn't Jackie's head.

[B]

It's not real.

[A]

Jackie, you're making it all up, bro.

[C]

Also, a lot of people had Genesis car. Like, how they use the car going backwards. A lot of people gave, like, actual good examples.

[B]

Oh, please. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I can move fights. I'm that guy. Lol. I can move my Genesis with the remote and use a bi bi weekly. I move my car back, like, 5ft ish from the house so I can get to the. Get to the hose to wash my car twice. Two when I'm parking. Sorry, I'm bad at.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

My argument there would be like, don't park in front of the hose.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Stop parking.

[A]

I guess it's like, it rectified a problem that you absolutely created for no reason. You're parked on top of your own hose.

[B]

Like, I guess so. Yeah.

[A]

That'd be like. Yeah. If it's like I ran somebody over and then I just backed up, like, don't run them over. I don't know. Like, these are problems.

[B]

I'm sure there are you. I'd like to. Honestly, I would like to hear Them though.

[C]

My buddy got one of these cars and said it's nice to be able to back the car out of the garage so he can put the kid in the car seat in the back.

[A]

Back. That, that one. I think that's the only valid one is if you are in a tight parking spot or garage and you. That. That makes sense, I'm sure.

[B]

I believe it's Hyundai.

[A]

What do you say?

[B]

What kind of car did he say it was?

[C]

Genesis.

[B]

I was right. It is. How the could we not find that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hyundai beats car commercial. 20 should only be one. Yeah.

[A]

They probably took it off the air like this is a stupid idea because.

[C]

Big selling point for the car is moving back. Backing up a little bit in a driveway so someone can get around me. Same goes for city parking spots, I'd imagine.

[B]

If you got the car and you're happy with the car, I'm happy for you. And Hyundai.

[A]

I don't like the commercial. If I was sitting. If I could like see my car parked right. Especially New York City parking where it's tight and like I realized that some cars moved in front of me and behind me and now there's like a five foot space and I see someone trying to park and park, parallel park behind me and they can't fit and I. Out the window could just move it up for them. I would do that. Yeah.

[B]

That's like, that's why.

[A]

Like I'm just gonna buy the car that's like comfortable and big enough and has good gas mileage. But if you want to do it for that one reason. Okay.

[B]

I, I have a real issue with cars in general. Just. I like, I think we keep trying to make things better that are fine. Just like, like I, it infuriates me that every car is. Every door is like a push to open.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, like. And like the trunk is like push it down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just let me slide this door closed. I, I can do it faster than you can.

[A]

Yes. The only thing I'll say about that because I, the, the, the, the trunk and the sliding door. I used to think that too. If, if you have your groceries and your kid and all that, you can just go.

[B]

I'm sure all of my complaints are partly due to the fact that I don't drive much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, if I had.

[A]

But in general, it's not just cars. It's like sometimes there's just a effective thing that's pretty like old school or, or mechanical instead of electric or whatever. And that's okay.

[B]

That's all right.

[A]

Yeah. Like, even analog's not bad. Here's a question. What do you think is the most untouched invention ever? They got it right.

[B]

First thing that comes to mind is Costanza with the toilet paper, because that hasn't gotten much different. Even.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

That was, what, 40 years ago, that episode? Probably.

[A]

I would say combs and brushes, have they gotten very different? For the most part, it's just like a. Teeth that you're running through.

[C]

Yeah. But for girls, like, it's like they've. They have, like, the bristles, they'll make them be really thin so it's easier to comb.

[A]

But the general idea is a handle and a thing you rub through your hair, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you would think by now that it's like, I just put my head inside this thing and, you know, it's like. No, we just sit there and say, toothbrush is kind of the same thing. It's like it's electric now, but you just still. Still jam it in there.

[B]

Yeah, we still use it. I have an electric toothbrush. I use it like it's a regular one. I'm still like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Right, right.

[A]

I'm just holding it.

[B]

I would have supposed to do it, but it's how I do it.

[A]

I would have to imagine that staples are done.

[B]

Staples. Yeah.

[A]

Maybe they're going to come up with a new way to. And. And paper clips, thumbtack, paperclip, keychain.

[B]

Any metal we've bent, we might.

[A]

We might come up with a whole new way to. To stick paper together. But if you're doing a staple, it's going to be a little metal thing that hooks around. If you're doing a paperclip, that little loop de loop paperclip thing, that was probably the first one. Paper in general, paper.

[B]

Paper. We're probably at. We probably maxed out on paper.

[A]

Yeah. Like, we might. We might move on from paper altogether.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

But if you're doing paper, it's that paper.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I always think of, like, cobbler. The fact that we still use the word cobbler for, like, shoe people.

[A]

It's like, if you're a cobbler in 2025, you must be art.

[B]

Those people I actually was almost talking about them with, when we were talking, like, supreme and stuff like that. Like, there are plenty of people who started businesses, and they're still just their one little shop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, yeah, I'll make you a suit. You come here and you do it.

[A]

Like they good people.

[B]

They didn't fucking go to the next.

[A]

Level or have higher.

[B]

There's anything wrong with going to the next level. But just like, there are people who went, I make 50 shoes a year, and I charge a shitload for them.

[A]

That's all I need.

[B]

And that's all I need.

[A]

I'm good. Did you hear the story about. We're running along here, but I want to tell one more story. Charles Oakley gave. I don't remember which player it was. Just gave this guy 70 grand out of the trunk of his car. They were at, like, they were at a Bentley dealership, and he wanted to put a down payment on a Bentley for 70 grand. He was like, I don't have that kind of money. And Charles Oakley was there and was like, here, come with me. Open up the trunk. Just grab stacks of cash and just gave him 70.

[B]

What are you doing on the Bentley dealerships? You don't have 70 grand? Well, that's a bigger.

[A]

But Charles Oakley is, if you know him, he's a player for the Knicks, but more. Almost more so than being a player for the Knicks. He is the car wash king. Oh, really? He has car washes all over the country. I believe he has one in Westchester. That's like the Charles Oakley car wash we've all gone to. He has a bunch in Cleveland. And I. And I remember thinking to myself, it's quite literally the job and profession that Walter White picked to launder money in his drug operation. So. And when I hear stories about. He's like. Like, I'll just grab you 70k out of the trunk. I feel like he's just like. He makes the rounds to his. His car washes and just gets all the cash. Like, forget my basketball career. I am the king of car washes.

[C]

Actually, real quick, I would also say that shower, you kind of have this idea, but showering is pretty. Like, hasn't really changed. It should be more like car washes. Like, it should be like you in and out, dried everything. You're, like, scrubbed with a big whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But instead it's just. You just stand out of the water.

[A]

We've kind of got the ones that shoot from the sides now and all that. But like, like, yeah, it should be bam. And then bam with the wind, and you're gone. You're good to go.

[C]

Like, when I'm scrubbing my own body, it just feels like. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, that seems pretty medieval, dude. Pretty archaic. All right, we'll wrap it up.

[B]

See you tomorrow. Or see you next week.

[A]

Yeah.