F*ck 'Em ft. Kris Jenner

Summary

Khloé in Wonder Land – "F*ck 'Em" ft. Kris Jenner (April 29, 2026)

Summary of Episode

Episode Overview

In this candid and unfiltered episode, Khloé Kardashian welcomes her mom and family matriarch, Kris Jenner, for a freewheeling conversation diving into media rumors, health and wellness routines, family dynamics, conspiracy theories, and how they handle the relentless scrutiny of celebrity life. With irreverence and honesty, they swap stories, support each other through the media circus, and occasionally venture down wild internet rabbit holes.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media Rumors, Headlines, and the Facelift Story

• Kris and Khloé open the episode reflecting on invasive headlines—especially about Kris’ facelift and rumors regarding her feelings toward her plastic surgeon.
• [00:05] Khloé: “The headline was that I hate my facelift. What’s up with Kris Jenner? We heard she was furious with Steven Levine.”
• [00:15] Kris: “The media build you up just to knock you down.”
• Kris is adamant she loves her facelift and her doctor, calling rumors of her being "furious" with her surgeon Steven Levine, "a flat out lie."
• [19:45] Khloé: “The headline right now is that I hate my facelift and I’m really mad at…Steven Levine, which couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s a flat out lie.”
• They talk about how other doctors online have speculated about Kris’s procedures, with some even mistakenly claiming she’s had rhinoplasty:
  • [21:55] Khloé: "There was one doctor…with the pointer going, ‘Kris has had three rhinoplasties,’ and I've never had my nose done.”
• Kris shares, as a public figure, she didn’t intend to publicize her facelift, but media obsession made it impossible to ignore.
• They discuss how online “experts” and clickbait culture put celebrities under a microscope, often pitting women against each other and spreading misinformation.
• Kris: “People who talk down about other people… It’s lame and corny, and it just shows me who you are.” [26:38]

2. Handling Public Scrutiny & Family Dynamics

• Khloé and Kris reflect on mental health and boundaries regarding media attention:
  • [18:41] Kris: “I like to take mental health breaks and not go online because I think it’s really healthy.”
• Kris describes her manager role juggling family brand responsibilities and putting out daily "fires" from stories and deliverables.
• They joke about thick skin after decades in the spotlight:
  • [30:27] Khloé: “We have been doing this for 20 years, so I’m no stranger to…criticism about anything.”
• The pair reiterate the importance of supporting other women, not participating in negative body or face shaming, and how lucky they are to have a supportive inner circle.
  • [40:25] Khloé: “Just pitting people against each other, especially women…is fascinating because it’s so ridiculous…we should all really be building each other up and wanting each other to win.”
• Rumors about Kris and Corey (her partner) are discussed, with Kris stating she doesn’t let breakup stories bother her anymore.
  • [39:16] Kris: “Do you get frustrated that there’s constantly breakup rumors about you and Corey?”
  • [39:21] Khloé: “Not anymore…maybe it bothered him more than me.”
• They discuss the "cougar" label, but laugh it off, focusing on happiness over age difference in relationships.

3. Family Life, Mother's Day, and Wellness

• Maternal vibes and family love are central, including discussion of what a perfect Mother’s Day looks like, gift anecdotes, and shared puzzles:
  • [44:12] Kris: “The morning I like to do a brunch…I love to be with my kids…But then I do need…a few hours and let me just, like, veg out, chill, get a massage…alone.”
• Khloé and Kris talk about wellness routines and sleep, discussing peptides, supplements, saunas, and their obsession with mattress firmness.
  • [10:18] Khloé: “I feel really good about myself right now…peptides, supplements, the way I take care of myself and the sleep I try to get…”
• Khloé discusses how watching true crime makes her more cautious and paranoid, describing fears of being kidnapped on vacation:
  • [09:08] Khloé: “What if I’m riding the bike and someone jumps out of the bushes, grabs the bike, nobody will know where I am…”

4. Pop Culture & Media Consumption

• The pair gush over recent events like Coachella, Justin Bieber’s and Billie Eilish’s performances, and surprise Madonna guests.
  • [03:28] Khloé: “I wanted to go to Coachella because I wanted to see Justin so badly…he’s like part of our family.”
• Show recommendations: “Friends and Neighbors,” the Luther Vandross documentary, "Imperfect Women” with Kerry Washington, and staple true crime favorites like “Dateline.”
  • [07:56] Kris: “A girl…Ashley Flowers…she does this podcast with her best friend…helped solve over 20 cold cases.”
• Discuss media overload, the difficulty distinguishing AI-generated content from reality, and the dangers of misinformation.
  • [18:12] Kris: “You even have a problem with what is AI. My mom will see AI photos of like me and my sisters…when did you guys work at this restaurant?”

5. Lighthearted Conspiracies & Internet Rabbit Holes

• The episode turns playful as they dive into dinosaurs, ancient civilizations, pyramids, and giant conspiracies.
  • [49:12] Kris: “What about that dinosaurs are really fake and all of those bones are man-made?”
  • [49:22] Khloé: “I don’t believe that. I believe that they’re real.”
• They joke through the absurdity of conspiracy theories, skepticism about unexplored oceans, and the ongoing mystery of mermaids and aliens.
  • [53:27] Kris: “There’s shit in there that they don’t want us to see. No one better tell me that there’s no mermaids. There’s definitely mermaid. We don’t even know.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Khloé, on media pressure:
  “The media build you up just to knock you down.” [00:15]
• Kris, fiercely about rumors:
  “Fuck 'em, Fuck 'em, Fuck 'em.” [00:22], [54:27]
• On being open about cosmetic procedures:
  “I want to inspire or show other women…to build women up and be secure enough… Some of these things are very scary for people… and to show somebody that, you know, at 70 years old, I don’t really care what someone thinks of me. I don’t need anyone’s approval.”
  — Kris Jenner [27:21]
• Oprah cameo reference:
  “Oprah had said something to me…‘How does it feel to have all this positive energy out there about your face?’”
  — Kris Jenner [28:07]
• On conspiracy tangents:
  “Dinosaurs are really dragons feelings.” — Kris Jenner [00:26], callback at [34:35]
  “Who's to say they didn’t have wings and could breathe fire?” — Kris Jenner [49:05]
• On mermaids and the unexplored ocean:
  “There’s shit in there that they don’t want us to see. No one better tell me that there’s no mermaids. There’s definitely mermaids. We don’t even know.” — Kris Jenner [53:27]
• On not caring about haters:
  “I don’t give a… at this age, all these people. But how. What somebody thinks about them, them, them,” — Khloé [29:40+]

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Key Timestamps for Major Topics

• Media Rumors & Facelift Story: [00:05], [19:45], [21:55]
• Online Media Culture & AI: [18:12], [18:41], [26:02]
• Family & Relationships (Corey, Mother's Day, etc.): [39:16], [44:01], [44:12]
• Mental Health & Wellness: [10:18], [13:16]
• Coachella/Pop Culture: [03:24], [04:44]
• Conspiracies & Internet Culture: [34:35], [49:12], [53:27]
• Memorable “F*ck ‘Em” Chant: [00:20], [54:27]
• Notable Guest Mentions (Oprah, Lori Loughlin, Bill Gates): [28:07], [43:46], [45:53]

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Tone & Conversation Style

The episode is playful, irreverent, and at times deeply reflective—a sisterly, mother-daughter dynamic filled with jokes, asides, mutual support, and venting. Both Khloé and Kris blend humor, warmth, and raw honesty as they toggle between celebrity woes and the humor they find on the strange internet.

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Closing Remarks

This episode stands out for its no-holds-barred approach to addressing both the blessings and absurdities of fame, the importance of supporting women, and the ability to laugh off relentless tabloid narratives. As always, “Khloé in Wonder Land” delivers a blend of relatability, pop culture savvy, and family-centric values—streetwise and sometimes just plain silly.

[54:30] Kris & Khloé:
“Fuck ‘em.”

Transcript

[Kris Jenner]

Kris Jenner.

[Khloe Kardashian]

This is an important subject. All the people that he's exposed.

[Kris Jenner]

People.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No Mom. I mean, no Mom. Oh, my God. No Mom. When you start acting like my mom. The headline was that I hate my facelift. What's up with Kris Jenner? We heard she was furious with Steven Levine.

[Kris Jenner]

The media build you up just to knock you down.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Them. Fuck em, Fuck em, Fuck em.

[Kris Jenner]

Fuck em, Fuck em, Fuck em. Yeah.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I ran into Oprah.

[Kris Jenner]

Name drop over here. Dinosaurs are really dragons feelings.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Did anybody else understand what she just said?

[Kris Jenner]

Yes.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Okay, good.

[Kris Jenner]

Wedding bells with you and Corey.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You're sexy, you're outgoing, you're so smart.

[Kris Jenner]

What's happening here?

[Khloe Kardashian]

What if I'm riding the bike and somebody jumps out of the bushes, grabs the bike, nobody will know where I am, throws me in the back of a van and takes off?

[Kris Jenner]

That's crazy. Oh, my gosh. You turned into a goat.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know. Thanks, Chloe.

[Kris Jenner]

Thank you so much for my little surprise in my car today.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Did you get the smoothie? Did you get the.

[Kris Jenner]

Was that not from you? Who else would it be from? You didn't leave anything in my car today. On my dashboard.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Was it Chanel? No, no. On your dashboard.

[Kris Jenner]

I posted about it because I thought it was from you. It's not from you. Jesus. Baby Jesus.

[Khloe Kardashian]

That's gotta be Paxi.

[Kris Jenner]

Paxi wasn't at my house today. Did one of you guys leave a baby Jesus on my cart?

[Khloe Kardashian]

That is close.

[Kris Jenner]

Remember when I went to your house?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yes.

[Kris Jenner]

And you had all the Jesuses?

[Khloe Kardashian]

How could I forget? It's a whole episode. People are writing me about baby Jesus from all over the world.

[Kris Jenner]

You really do it. Look, I'll show you.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know, but how do you.

[Kris Jenner]

What do you.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Who do you think that's from? It's probably from Jesus.

[Kris Jenner]

So look, I said I just got in the car. I'm late for my podcast recording. And let me show you what is in my. My car. Okay? I'm going to show you. And I said, thank you, Mommy. It's the little Jesus sitting on my dashboard. On my dashboard.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I swear to you. I swear on Jesus, I did not leave that.

[Kris Jenner]

You guys do that. That's crazy. How would that be there? Who would do that? That's so nice. What is the sign? What does that mean?

[Khloe Kardashian]

The sign means that somebody is watching over you and protecting you. And they're just saying, hey, I've got this. And then you were going to the hospital. So how crazy is that?

[Kris Jenner]

And I wasn't wearing hospital for me. I was going for Amari.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Right. But still, that's just protection and angels and all that.

[Kris Jenner]

That is crazy. None of you guys really did that.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I did not do it. I was at Erewhon, and I was.

[Kris Jenner]

Erewhon.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Erewhon. Well, I have my own smoothie now for Mother's Day.

[Kris Jenner]

The way you bullied yourself into that is crazy.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Do you know that this is a very competitive family? And I loved Courtney's. I loved Kendall's. I loved Haley's, and I needed my own smoothie. I need to get to be a part of this.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah. No, no, no. You definitely.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I. It's so pretty. It's blueberries and strawberries, and it's edible flowers on top for Mother's Day. It looks like a little bouquet, and it's really good.

[Kris Jenner]

Wait, is that why you said that you left a smoothie in my car instead of the juices?

[Khloe Kardashian]

I thought maybe somebody else put one of the new smoothies in your car, and I thought, oh, you're welcome. I like the baby Jesus better.

[Kris Jenner]

So Coachella just passed.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know.

[Kris Jenner]

What are your feelings about Coachella?

[Khloe Kardashian]

I wanted to go to Coachella because I wanted to see Justin so badly, and he's been leading up to this and talking about it and really excited about it. I'm just so happy the way that it all turned out for him. That made me so happy because I really want him to win. And he's so talented and so lovely and so kind of. He's like part of our family, and you want that person to have everyone else see what we all see. And he wanted it so badly. I'm sure.

[Kris Jenner]

And, you know, he's given his entire

[Khloe Kardashian]

life to this, and this was fantastic. We were out of town. Well, I was gone for the first one.

[Kris Jenner]

The first weekend was True's birthday weekend. Oh, yeah. So I went to her with me. It's probably the first year ever that I've had FOMO from Coachella. Cause I genuinely could care.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Agree. I would have loved to have been there for that.

[Kris Jenner]

Never had any Coachella where all sisters are there. I was the only one not there. That's the first time we've all been there at the same time or they have all. Normally it's like two or three.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

And then for Justin to perform like someone that, like, we've known forever.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Amazing night for him.

[Kris Jenner]

So much.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know.

[Kris Jenner]

Two great weekends.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Everybody is so proud of him, and he did such a great job. And then the second weekend, I was out of the country, and I watched it, you know, the next day With Billie Eilish. And I thought that was the cutest that. I mean, I was just. My cheeks hurt from smiling. It was so cute.

[Kris Jenner]

Is like if you go on TikTok and you see like girls are like live streaming themselves, watching the live stream and people don't realize it's Billie and they're like, I'm so pissed. I should be that girl. What fan is this? Like, they're like angry.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Oh, they didn't know.

[Kris Jenner]

Then when they see it's Billie, everyone's attitude and tone changes. They're like, billie. And they're screaming and they're so happy for her and her reaction, like her not being able to stand her smiling from ear to ear. It was so cute. So genuinely relatable and it was really cute.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I wish I would have been there for that. And I wouldn't have minded seeing Madonna come out. That was so great.

[Kris Jenner]

Was Sabrina. Yeah.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Can you imagine thinking you're going to the Sabrina performance, which is remarkable and so exciting and a privilege, and then

[Kris Jenner]

having Madonna come out, well, that was what it is. They always bring out something major, something incredible and you think Weekend one is like, oh, this is it. They always do something great for Weekend two as well.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I don't know how they're topping this for next year.

[Kris Jenner]

What are some shows that you're into? You're always telling me about some new show.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Friends and Neighbors right now. Okay, I'm into that. I just. Oh my gosh, Chloe. Yesterday I was on a flight and it was an eight and a half hour flight, so I needed things to do and stuff to watch. I watched the Luther Vandross documentary. I laughed, I cried.

[Kris Jenner]

Is this old?

[Khloe Kardashian]

I sang along. Well, it said on. I mean, I just heard about it because I follow his. His Instagram. Even though, you know, his rip. Well, I.

[Kris Jenner]

He's been gone for like over.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No earmuffs. Do not tell me that.

[Kris Jenner]

But like, did he's. I think he was gone before Instagram was a thing.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

So.

[Khloe Kardashian]

But he has, he has. Somebody is running his brand's Instagram and it's really great.

[Kris Jenner]

Good for him.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And I love it because it brings back all the old memories and the songs and you learn stuff about him and I'm just kind of obsessed with him. And I watched this documentary, Cher at

[Kris Jenner]

the great Grammys sang Luther Vandross was crazy. Do you remember that? When she opened up the ticket. The song is called that. But she said that's who won the Grammy. Nevermind, never mind. That's fine.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Did anybody else understand What? She just said yes. Okay, good. But anyway, I really enjoyed that, so I watched that. I'm watching Imperfect Women with Kerry Washington, so I adore her. And that was really good.

[Kris Jenner]

There's so many shows. It's crazy.

[Khloe Kardashian]

There's a lot right now, so I get really excited. And, of course, 2020 every Friday night in Dateline. Dateline? Yeah. Just all the murder shows.

[Kris Jenner]

A girl, her name's Ashley Flowers, and she has the number one true crime podcast. She said Dateline is, like, for, like, beginners because there's, like. There's a conclusion at the end. Like, she deals with, like, cold case files she's helped solve. Her company has helped solve over 20 cold cases. And she does this podcast with her best friend.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You have to give me the info so I can listen to it.

[Kris Jenner]

Oh, my God. But just the things we were talking about, we could have gone. And I was getting worked up. Like, I had so many thoughts in my head. I was like, and what about this case? And what about that case? And we were just jumping around. It was really fun.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I am really into 2020 right now. Like, I feel like. I don't know, they've really stepped it up and elevated the crime stories that they choose to tell, and it really gets you going. Yeah. But it also, like, changes my behavior. Like, I will do things more carefully.

[Kris Jenner]

So you become paranoid.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah. Basically, I was on vacation, and I felt like taking the bicycle out in front of the villa and riding down to the restaurant.

[Kris Jenner]

And.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And I thought, no, because what if I'm riding the bike and somebody jumps out of the bushes, grabs the bike, nobody will know where I am, throws me in the back of a van and takes off?

[Kris Jenner]

A van on a small island? Yeah.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Well, I don't know. That's where my head goes.

[Kris Jenner]

Got it.

[Khloe Kardashian]

So I've got to just, you know, try not to get too carried away with my own little scenarios, and I'm developing my own show in my head, but I'm just always thinking, so I have a lot of security right now.

[Kris Jenner]

I know you do.

[Khloe Kardashian]

So I won't.

[Kris Jenner]

You know, my mom won't go on a walk in the neighborhood without security following her in a vehicle in case someone tries to snatch her.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

That's crazy.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know. But I'm still here.

[Kris Jenner]

Thank God.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I'm still here.

[Kris Jenner]

Thank God. What time do you go to sleep? On an average, I've been better. Well, don't lie. Just say the truth.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Okay, nine.

[Kris Jenner]

That's good.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah, I don't think that's used to be Earlier. It's accurate. I went to bed last night at 9:30, woke up at 4:30.

[Kris Jenner]

Well, you're on, you're jet lagged. You're on a different time zone on an average 9 o'. Clock.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I've been doing 9 o'. Clock.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay, I think that you used to go to bed like at 7.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Listen, I feel really good about myself right now and I think that the peptides. No, the peptides, the supplements, the way I take care of myself and the sleep I try to get and I specifically, okay, this is how many hours I wanna get tonight because this is what I have to do tomorrow.

[Kris Jenner]

Sleep is the only thing that's gonna really repair your body, recover your body, your cell turnover, all of that sleep

[Khloe Kardashian]

is the cell turnover.

[Kris Jenner]

Sleep is a non negotiable.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No, it's really important. And you know what else I discovered in this last couple weeks of bouncing around? The more firm the mattress, the better I sleep. I'm not like, this is an important

[Kris Jenner]

subject, which is great, but you can't go into other people's homes and say you need a firmer mattress.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No, no, no.

[Kris Jenner]

I walking over to my bed and saying, are you sure you're comfortable on that mattress?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yes.

[Kris Jenner]

I love my bed. My bed is my sanctuary.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Is it hard or soft or medium?

[Kris Jenner]

Medium, but you freak out.

[Khloe Kardashian]

This is like Goldilocks and the Three Bears.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah. But everyone's allowed to like different things. Mine is like a memory foam, but.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Okay, this is what I just discovered. I want to try a memory foam mattress, the firmest that it can be. But I want to put it in a guest room to make sure I really like it before I invest in making like a handmade one for the big bed.

[Kris Jenner]

Handmade. My mattress is custom made. Custom size.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yep.

[Kris Jenner]

And it's like the geriatric like it. I need that. It goes.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I want that.

[Kris Jenner]

Let me tell you something. At first when they were like, do you want this option? I was like, well, what if I don't use it? And they're like, you'll never tell. Like, so just get it. Because it was a few hundred dollars more, I was like, fine. Because you cannot use it. And it's the flat mattress, Mom. I will never in my fucking life not have that mattress.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Oh, wow. I want you to. But you can put any mattress on it. It doesn't have to be okay, I'm watching tv.

[Kris Jenner]

I'm positioned up. It does your legs. If you want your legs out. Bougie. It is the bougiest thing ever.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Get that.

[Kris Jenner]

And it vibrates at night. Tru and Tatum, all they do, they say put on, put on the shaking and it like shakes them to sleep. It's amazing.

[Khloe Kardashian]

It shakes.

[Kris Jenner]

Beautiful. Very lightly vibing. So it relaxes you and you fall asleep. It is.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I want to catch that vibe. I like it.

[Kris Jenner]

You could catch that vibe. I'm going to catch that vibe and lay at my house.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I'm going to go practice on your bed.

[Kris Jenner]

Well, just, I'm gonna get.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Really. Okay. I won't come over and sneak into your house and play in your bed with you, but I'm just, I'm really into like concentrating on my sleep habits, my supplement habits. Doing the sauna, it's like trying to do all the things that you read about is a full time job. And I already have a couple full time jobs.

[Kris Jenner]

Right.

[Khloe Kardashian]

So I've been trying to balance and I love a good balance, but I've been trying to like sneak in a sauna. Sneak in a red sneaky.

[Kris Jenner]

That's why you do Red light while you're watching Dateline or 20 20.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Okay, well that's a problem because I do my red light and you have to put the goggles on so you

[Kris Jenner]

can't see the show, but you can hear it.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I need to see.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah. What about the red light masks that I gave people for Christmas? Like it's a face mask with Velcro and you can see through.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Did you give me one? I don't think you did because I would have had it.

[Kris Jenner]

I'm sure we have an extra one. You guys know how intentional I am about what I eat, especially when it comes to protein. So when my [e-mail] informed me that over 85% of grass fed beef in stores is imported, I was shocked because I think a lot of us assume we are buying local. We assume we're supporting American Farms and that the labels mean what they imply. But that's just not the case. And that's what made Good Ranchers stand out to me. This company was started by a husband and a wife who just wanted better food for their own kids. After realizing how broken the American food system is, they decided to fix it themselves. At Good Ranchers, they source all their meat from local farms and ranches in America and then they deliver it right to your door, making it easier than ever to get access to high quality American meat. I personally love their chicken and wild caught seafood. The quality is incredible. No added hormones, no antibiotics, everything is responsively sourced. I'm actually a good rancher subscriber myself, and I love how easy it is to manage my orders. When life gets busy or I'm traveling, I can pause or move my order in just a few clicks. It's simple, flexible, and actually built around your schedule to get the kind of high quality, 100% American meat you can't just find in the grocery store anymore. Visit goodranchers.com today these days we have to navigate a lot of noise when it comes to staying healthy or losing weight. There's always a new diet or workout that you hear about for a little while, then never again. But there's one name that hasn't changed that so many of my friends tell me works for them, and that name is Weight Watchers. Even though it's a name you already recognize, you'll be surprised by how modern, flexible and genuinely supportive their completely reimagined app is. Weight Watchers helps you cut out the noise so you can focus on you Whether you're looking for weight management without medication or you're curious about GLP1s, I want to be clear. I'm not currently using a GLP1, but I've always been open about my health journey and what I respect about Weight Watchers is how thoughtfully they approach it. There's real education, real structure and real support for those exploring medication. Weight Watchers offers access to affordable GLP1 options and has doctors and experts guiding you every step of the way. And according To Weight Watchers, 72% of MED plus members say the GLP1 Success Program helps reduce medication side effects. And Weight Watchers says members are losing 29% more weight when they engage with the success program versus taking medication alone. This is about sustainable health, how you eat, how you move, and how you feel day to day. No gimmicks, no quick fixes, just science backed support from a brand that has helped tens of millions of people over the years. If you're ready to do this in a way that actually fits in with your busy life, this is your sign. Go to weightwatchers.com and use code Chloe for an extra 20% off your first month. That's 20% off your first month at weightwatchers.com with code Chloe. Offer applies to select plans, restrictions apply and the offer ends May 31, 2026. So let's talk about news, headlines and all that kind of stuff. Because you are not only our mom but our manager. You either hear a million different things a day from either one kid, two kids, all of your kids yourself. Do you already know what's true or not true. Do you get worked up about the news coverage or what they're saying?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Most of what I see in here, you don't know what's true and what's not true anymore.

[Kris Jenner]

Well, you even have a problem with what is AI. My mom will see AI photos of like me and my sisters.

[Khloe Kardashian]

That's right.

[Kris Jenner]

Working at a restaurant. She's like, when did you guys work at this restaurant? And we're like, I thought you were

[Khloe Kardashian]

doing like, that's not real. So like an ad for whatever restaurant that was.

[Kris Jenner]

You can't even tell what's AI. But we are like, it's crazy.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I can't.

[Kris Jenner]

The one of all of us at the tattoo parlor, I'm like, mom, you gotta stop. You gotta stop.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Well, here's the thing. I like to take mental health breaks and not go online because I think it's really healthy. Like this last couple weeks I tried not to look. But the first thing I have to do as a manager and somebody who's running these businesses for five beautiful daughters and my amazing son is make sure like what's going on and what do I need? What fire do I need to put out today? Sometimes, like waking up to some of the craziest stuff is jolting or just making sure that everybody's posting what they're supposed to be posting. Achieving the deliverables that are being, being asked of us to do for different brands and that everybody's doing what they're supposed to be doing and it's running like a well oiled machine. That's my job. So when I'm doing that, then at the same time you come across the craziest shit. Like for example, lately it's this headline about my facelift which is really, truly driving me crazy because.

[Kris Jenner]

And what's the headline?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Well, the headline right now is that I hate my facelift and I'm really mad at. I'm furious at my doctor, Steven Levine, which couldn't be further from the truth. It's a flat out lie. I love my facelift. I adore my doctor. I'm obsessed with him. One of the most talented, amazing men I've ever met and somebody who really put his heart and soul into what he did for me and what he does for any other patient that he has. He's the nicest man in the world, the nicest man with the biggest heart. And he's so smart and so meticulous. He's an artist and he really does a great job with all of his patients. I mean, I could Give you a list of only the ones I know, which I never would, but just all the people that he's.

[Kris Jenner]

Those people.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No, Mom. I mean, no mom. Oh, my God, no mom. When you start acting like my mom. But so that's really disappointing because, first of all, if I take you back to my face and my facelift journey from, like, almost a year and a half ago, I never in a million years was going to talk about doing a facelift. I didn't bring this to anybody's attention. I didn't post a picture and say, oh, my God, guys, look at my facelift. Don't I look great? I, like, was minding my own business. I flew to Paris. I went to Lauren Sanchez's wedding shower, was having the time of my life,

[Kris Jenner]

and you looked so fucking beautiful.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Thank you. But then all of a sudden, the media started posting all these pictures of me going, oh, my gosh, look at her jawline, look at her neck, look at her this, look at her that. And it became sort of this crazy, obsessive thing where every single person was posting about it, talking about it. There were doctors that I've never met before in my life that were putting my face up on a screen with, like, pointer going, and this is what she had done, and this is what she had done. There was one doctor that posted a photo of me and did a live or, you know, a taped video with the pointer and said, see right here. Chris has had three rhinoplasties, and I've never had my nose done. And Steven didn't go into this with me, like, my facelift, and say, I'm gonna re. Like, do every little detail of her face. The goal was to do a beautiful lift and give me a. A refresh and do a beautiful jawline, which I achieved. And it was really interesting because everybody started making such a big deal out of it. But then there was a group of people, and one by one, there were several people that started to take credit for the work kind of in a, you know, like, oh, I might have done that or I might not have. And it was kind of interesting. And so I called of it, all right? And I. I called Stephen and I said, hey, this is getting so much attention, and it's really out of hand, and I'd like to just say, who, you know, your name do. How do you feel about that? And he said, well, I'm cool with it. Why don't we just create a password? I think I told you this before, that if somebody calls, you know, and because of this Referral. Then I'll know that it's from you and we'll create a password. So we did.

[Kris Jenner]

And you're saying because publicly you were going to acknowledge who your doctor was.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Right.

[Kris Jenner]

He was going to become booked and busy. But if anyone that you referred wanted to get in, you would have the Kris Jenner password. And they can get in. That's what the password is.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Correct?

[Kris Jenner]

Not the password of news outlets.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No, no, no. So anyway, we. And all these outlets, every media outlet was calling rpr, Christy, and asking, you know, will you tell us who did it? Will you tell us who did it? And then people just started taking credit for it. And I was like, no, not on my watch. This is. This is not cool.

[Kris Jenner]

What are you upset about? Well, I think because clearly you're stunning and your face looks impeccable.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I am so happy.

[Kris Jenner]

Are bullshit.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah, of course they are.

[Kris Jenner]

No, of course. I'm just saying. So what are we upset about?

[Khloe Kardashian]

I'm upset that people are calling out saying, I'm furious with my doctor. I'm blaming him for this facelift that completely fell apart, which. No and no. The only reason to even bring it up or say anything about it is because it's really hurting someone else. Like, I don't really. I can take what people say. I have pretty thick skin, and I don't really need to talk about, you know, this issue at all, except for the fact that it really does. Someone else is involved. And I love him, and I think he's a genius, and I think he's one of the most talented doctors I've ever been to.

[Kris Jenner]

Did you sleep with him already?

[Khloe Kardashian]

No. He's married to this. His beautiful wife.

[Kris Jenner]

I've never seen you blush like that.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No, no, he. He is.

[Kris Jenner]

I know he's married. It's a joke.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Really good.

[Kris Jenner]

Dr. Levine, we know you're gonna have sex with him.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I think it's really for him just to say, I love you, Steven, and

[Kris Jenner]

wheel it on in. We got it.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

Here's the thing. In the world of the Internet, social media, it doesn't matter what you do and what category you're in. The media or now anyone with the platform is considered media at this point. They build you up. They put you on this pedestal like they build you high just to knock you down little by little. They can't stand that, whoever they is, Kris Jenner was getting all of this press looking beautiful, like, so one bad photo of you, they're gonna take that and run with it.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Oh, they jumped on that. And you know, and then create all

[Kris Jenner]

these stories, because that's what's selling magazines. You need a protagonist and an antagonist in everything.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Don't you think it's crazy that actual. I. I'm guessing. I'm assuming they're actual medical doctors who have licenses that go online and do a whole setup where they're reviewing how much now that my face left failed and I hate my doctor.

[Kris Jenner]

You are, Kris Jenner. You are giving them. Who would do that? But a real. A doctor with morals and integrity wouldn't do that. And also, a doctor that's, like, in the industry wouldn't be going and Dice.

[Khloe Kardashian]

First of all, going after Stephen is wild to me that another doctor would go after.

[Kris Jenner]

It's crazy. That's crazy town. So much I believe in everyone should be successful. I'm not intimidated by anyone else's success. I'm inspired by it. I think there's enough of everything for everyone to win. We all can win. That's number one. People who talk down about other people. It's lame and corny, and it just shows me who you are.

[Khloe Kardashian]

But it's so insecure on their part. And don't you think. But don't you think that if there was something wrong or if I didn't like something, you wouldn't hear about it right away? Like, I am very vocal in what I do. I've shared my. My facelift. I've shared my hip replacement. I've shared my hysterectomy also.

[Kris Jenner]

You don't have shared do any of that.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No, but I want to, because I want to inspire or show other women and build women up and be secure enough to do what they're doing and not be scared, you know, through the process. Some of these things are very scary for people, or they feel like my life is over. I have to get a hip replacement or I'll never be the same because I had hysterectomy or what's that gonna feel like? And to show somebody that, you know, at 70 years old, I don't really care what someone thinks of me. I don't need anyone's approval.

[Kris Jenner]

I don't.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And I never asked for the positive stuff. I just went, you know, just loved it.

[Kris Jenner]

Who wouldn't?

[Khloe Kardashian]

You know, it's funny because I ran into Oprah.

[Kris Jenner]

Oh, name drop over here, please.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah. And Oprah had said something to me that was so interesting. She. How does it feel? We were at a barbecue, and she said, at Lauren's house.

[Kris Jenner]

Oh, my God.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And she said, how does it feel to have all this real positive energy out there about your face. Because it was right, you know, when everybody was going crazy over the face. And I said, gosh, you know what? It feels really good. Nobody's ever asked me, like, just like that. And she was like, well, you look great. And, you know, this and that. But she said, but how does it feel? And I said, finally, some positive energy. Because, you know, they're always.

[Kris Jenner]

Who doesn't like anything positive?

[Khloe Kardashian]

I get that it makes you feel good, but at the same time, it's not something that I was out there asking for.

[Kris Jenner]

Correct. But I also think it's really disgusting for any of us to talk negatively about anyone's face, body hair, any of that. Let's all. All the positive stuff. That's what we should be doing to one another is building people up, having them feel good, but then just analyzing things, talking negatively about them. And what I was gonna say.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I'm saying how you feel about someone. She does. She is so mad. She is furious with her doctor. And then every media outlet is calling Christy going, what's up with Kris Jenner? We heard she was furious with Steven Levine. Hell no, I'm not furious with Steven Levine. I love Steven Levine.

[Kris Jenner]

No, we got that. I love my face. For sure. You love him.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know I do.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And I love my face clear. And I'm really okay with the way I look. And I don't really.

[Kris Jenner]

You should be more than okay.

[Khloe Kardashian]

But I don't give a. At this age, all these people. But how. What somebody thinks about them, them, them,

[Kris Jenner]

them, them, them, them. Yeah, you said it better.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I said we're all just trying to get by out here and, you know, to live a life.

[Kris Jenner]

Some get by meaning little cuter than others.

[Khloe Kardashian]

That's right.

[Kris Jenner]

Hey, Kris Jenner.

[Khloe Kardashian]

That's right.

[Kris Jenner]

But people are talking about you. And that's like, you have to also turn it. Like, these people wouldn't be talking about me bad or good if I wasn't drawing a lot of attention to them. If I wasn't returning in views or clicks. Like, just remember the power you hold. Even though it's fucked up and annoying. People are doing it because they wouldn't know about these doctors otherwise.

[Khloe Kardashian]

We have been doing this for 20 years, so I'm no stranger to. To the criticism about anything.

[Kris Jenner]

What I wear, what I say.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You know, the. The family. Obviously I have thick skin and can handle just about anything. Like, everyone has a bad photo once in a while or a bad, you know, bad outfit, or they're not looking Their best. But you don't need somebody to tell you you look like shit.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah, we know.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You know, that's not nice. Well, it's not good for anybody's mental

[Kris Jenner]

health that would bother anyone.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I think the media, you know, has this obsession of tearing people and especially women down and then now pitting them against each other, just making up these stories. Like who sits in a room at work and decides, let's do a story and really, you know, zap this person. I just don't understand that. But I grew up in a family where my grandmother was like, taught me, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Yeah, I mean, different generation.

[Kris Jenner]

It. Well, it's. It's honestly just people get so consumed with what gives them attention. And sadly, the negative does give people attention.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

And so they get consumed with that and they are letting that lead their moral compass. And that's not good. You guys know I recently got a puppy, Peppermint. And I'm not even going to pretend I'm normal about it. I fully accept that I've become one of those dog parents, the kind who takes way too many photos, talks to their dog like they're a person, and somehow she ends up having a better daily routine than I do. Peppermint already has multiple beds around the house, a rotation of toys, and honestly, I catch myself checking on her like she's a toddler. But if you're a dog parent, I feel like you get it. They really do become a part of the family. And if anyone understands that level of obsession, it's Ollie. They're just as obsessed with your dog as you are. Ollie makes fresh food for dogs that's developed by real chefs and backed by vet nutritionists. So you know your pup is getting high quality meals made with ingredients you can feel good about. And what I love is that everything is personalized to your dog when you start. They create a plan based on your dog's needs and portion the meals just for you. It even comes with a puptainer and a scoop. So feeding them is super easy. But Ollie doesn't just stop at food. Through their app, you can actually check in on your dog's health. With real vets, you upload a picture and their team can check things like your dog's weight, digestion, teeth and coat. It's honestly such a great way to keep an eye on how your pup is doing. Get ready for both you and your pup to be obsessed. Head to ollie.com wonderland. Tell them all about your dog. And use code wonderland to get 60% off your welcome kit when you subscribe today. Plus, they offer an obsession guarantee. If you're not completely obsessed, you'll get your money back. That's O L L I E.com Wonderland and enter code Wonderland to get 60% off your first box. Ollie, feed the Obsession. Life moves fast, but at the table, I really try to slow down. You guys know food is such a big love language in my family. It's not just about eating. It's about sitting together, talking, laughing, and actually being present. And honestly, that's why I love pasta nights. They're always my favorite. Lately, I've been obsessed with Barilla al Bronzo pasta. And yes, that's Barilla al Bronzo. It's made in Italy and created with sauce lovers in mind. The texture is so good and it clings to every single drop of flavor, which is everything for me. So there's this Italian concept called scarpetta, which basically means soaking up every last bit of sauce. And that speaks straight to my soul. Because if I made the effort to cook and we're all sitting together at the table, you better believe we're savoring every single bite. To me, that's not just food, that's connection. My go to right now is actually my mom's bolognese. You guys know Chris has been making this sauce forever. And when you pair it with Barilla Albranzo pasta, ugh. It is unique, real. The pasta holds onto the sauce so perfectly, every bite just hits. And that's the beauty of it. Whether you're in the mood for something rich and cozy or something lighter and veggie forward, it just works. So next time you're cooking, don't rush it. Make it a moment. Sit, talk, laugh. Soak up the sauce. Soak up the time together. You can find Barilla Albranzo pasta in the red bag at select retailers nationwide. You can click on the link in the description to find a store near you.

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[Kris Jenner]

What are some other rumors that, like, you remember that really boil your blood? If there's any.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know this rumors that boil my blood.

[Kris Jenner]

Like any stories like this, like this one really affected you because you're like, that's just up. And it would affect anyone. It is fucked up. Is there anything else that you can recall that rattled you or pissed you off?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Well, I think, let's see.

[Kris Jenner]

Do you like getting called a cougar? Are you a cougar?

[Khloe Kardashian]

No.

[Kris Jenner]

No. You are?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Am I?

[Kris Jenner]

Are you?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Okay? No.

[Kris Jenner]

Corey is like 30 years younger than you.

[Khloe Kardashian]

He's 25 years younger than me.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay. Okay.

[Khloe Kardashian]

So I'm. I kind of like a cougar.

[Kris Jenner]

And I think you're more than a cougar. 25 is like, oh, all right, girl.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Okay. Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

Well, you know, we like a cougar.

[Khloe Kardashian]

We have a great relationship. And for us it's like, no, but it's like age is just a number.

[Kris Jenner]

Can I date someone 25 years older than me?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah, I can. Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

Huh.

[Khloe Kardashian]

As long as you love him and you and he's good to you and it works and he's your person. Right? You can't always decide who your person's gonna be. You just don't know. He's just gonna come one day and you're gonna. You don't know what shape or size or age or any of it. You're just gonna. It's gonna be a surprise. I promise.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay.

[Khloe Kardashian]

He's coming. He's coming.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I mean, I didn't plan that, you know. You don't plan like who you're gonna fall in love with or maybe who you're gonna end up with in life. It just happens.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay. Anything else that bothers you?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Anything else that bothers me. Oh, maybe who your dad is.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay. That's been long gone.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know. Well, it's all gonna be long gone one day. But the things that the media or people get fixated on is fascinating because it's so ridiculous. Especially since you look exactly like both of your grandmothers. Sorry, but you do.

[Kris Jenner]

Do you get frustrated that there's constantly breakup rumors about you and Corey?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Not anymore. I mean, did it bother me at the time? I think it probably bothered me. Bothered maybe him more than it bothered me. I don't know. You'd have to ask Corey. Why don't you get him in here on this. Corey couch.

[Kris Jenner]

Therapist couch. To get Corey on here. He would say.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Could you imagine words? Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

He wouldn't talk.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No. He wouldn't have 60 minutes of silence.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah, he won't talk.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I got a text from Lori Loughlin, and she's.

[Kris Jenner]

Who looks great.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Doesn't she look beautiful?

[Kris Jenner]

Amazing. Well, she's so pretty.

[Khloe Kardashian]

She's beautiful on the inside, too.

[Kris Jenner]

She really is.

[Khloe Kardashian]

She's a nice girl.

[Kris Jenner]

I'm so mad she doesn't live near us anymore.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know. I know. She wrote me yesterday or last night and she said. She didn't even say anything. She just sent me an article that said I was really furious because her facelift looks better than mine. And I'm thinking, where do people come up with this stuff? And I think just pitting people against each other, especially women against each other, when we should all really be building each other up and wanting each other to win.

[Kris Jenner]

But in your friend group, you guys are so supportive and so amazing to one another.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I'm so lucky.

[Kris Jenner]

You are. And you guys aren't gatekeepers. Like, when you did yours, you told everyone and they all went and they all went. But it's also a testament to you and your Rolodex. Now people trust you. But I also think outsiders are pitting you guys against one another. But I love the unity that you all have and how much you guys all really do support and uplift and, like, rally for one another. Like, even those articles, you guys all laugh about them and, like, talk shit about them as opposed to being like, I love that I was in this article with her.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Right.

[Kris Jenner]

You know What?

[Khloe Kardashian]

I mean, yeah. And.

[Kris Jenner]

But.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And that's. I mean, that's true. And I work 25 hours a day. I don't really have time to dwell on things because I'm so busy. And I have such natural distraction with my real life and the things that really matter to me. My grandchildren, my children, me, my mom, cece, Corey, all of us. And I feel like I have such a full, blessed life. It's like somebody said to me earlier today, all the media is focused on something because it was such a big deal when I got my face done, and it attracted so much attention. It was so much for them to write about and such great clickbait. And when that all dies down, then they need something else. And now they'll just bring you down.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And really punch you in the face.

[Kris Jenner]

Literally.

[Khloe Kardashian]

A new news cycle.

[Kris Jenner]

Wedding bells with you and Corey.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No. You never know.

[Kris Jenner]

We don't need to get married again.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No. Like anyone, you just never know. I'm full of surprises.

[Kris Jenner]

Wow. Yeah. That would be.

[Khloe Kardashian]

But you could be a flower girl.

[Kris Jenner]

I don't think any of us need to get married again. I think we're good.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You do? Would you ever get married again?

[Kris Jenner]

Not sure.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I could see you getting married.

[Kris Jenner]

I love the idea of marriage with the right paperwork. Yeah.

[Khloe Kardashian]

That's true. You're a great wife.

[Kris Jenner]

Thank you.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You really are. You're like any man's dream of a wife.

[Kris Jenner]

Because my first marriage wasn't real anyways. I should get married again for a real one.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know. How do you like? Well, first, let me just say this. You're beautiful.

[Kris Jenner]

Thank you.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You're beautiful on the inside and the outside. You're an amazing mommy.

[Kris Jenner]

Thank you.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You really are. I've never seen anything like it.

[Kris Jenner]

I'm a mommy.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You're the most. And you're so.

[Kris Jenner]

That reference. She doesn't know what I'm talking about.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No. Love Island. Oh, Love Island. I'm not into Love Island. I know I have to get into

[Kris Jenner]

Love island, but I haven't started that yet. It's not your thing.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Okay. You're sexy.

[Kris Jenner]

Ooh.

[Khloe Kardashian]

You're outgoing. You're smart. You're so smart. You're so talented. You're artistic. You've got so many great qualities. I could sit here for one hour and not be able to list them all. So somebody's going to be really lucky to one day meet you and your soulmates. Going to be a very lucky man.

[Kris Jenner]

Thank you. And vice versa. Chris.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Wow. I know. When you call me Chris, that's very Meaningful. What are we going to do for Mother's Day?

[Kris Jenner]

I was going to say, what do we. We. Normally, everyone does their own thing for Mother's Day. We'll have, like, breakfast or something.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Wasn't I doing brunch at my house?

[Kris Jenner]

But then everyone then disperses and does their own thing.

[Khloe Kardashian]

What would be your perfect Mother's Day?

[Kris Jenner]

Like, for me? Like, Mother's Day, sometimes everyone wants to do things with you, but you're like, but that's not about me.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

Like, so that's why the morning I like to do a brunch, I'll swim with the kids a little bit, then they can go and leave me alone for a few hours and let me just, like, veg out, chill, get a massage. Like, just do things that I want to do, but alone and not hear people be like, can you open this for me? I need a tissue. Da, da, da. This has salt on it. Or whatever. Like, I just want. I like both, though, because I love to be with my kids, spend that time together. But then I do need, like, half the day, maybe like, 2 or 3pm

[Khloe Kardashian]

the rest of the day just to chill.

[Kris Jenner]

Nothing like crazy. Love a puzzle. Love a puzzle. And Alexa got me this puzzle board. I showed it to you.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

And, like, with the drawer. Yes.

[Khloe Kardashian]

That's so cool.

[Kris Jenner]

And it, like, that's something I would love. Who the hell gets to do puzzles in the daytime? Normally, not me.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know. I brought all these puzzles to Palm Springs, and then we didn't do them.

[Kris Jenner]

That's because it would frustrate me too much to do them there because there's so many little kids that will touch them.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I know that's true.

[Kris Jenner]

We did one in Hawaii, Kim and I, for spring break, I think, last year, and we could not leave until we finished this puzzle. It was insane, but it was the best. And you just sit there and you talk and you need a little break, and then you come back. It's really hard to leave once you do the puzzle.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I have a puzzle that's wooden pieces, and they're this.

[Kris Jenner]

Why don't you say, who gave it to you?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Oh, Bill Gates for my birthday. But it is so difficult. And he had it made. And it's my green fridge.

[Kris Jenner]

That's a hard puzzle, right? Yeah.

[Khloe Kardashian]

So you could help me get that?

[Kris Jenner]

I would do it. I love stuff like that.

[Khloe Kardashian]

What do you want to get off your chest?

[Kris Jenner]

I did that. I got it all off my chest with Malika.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Did you ever hear from him?

[Kris Jenner]

No. What the hell is he going to

[Khloe Kardashian]

Say, well, I would feel badly about those comments if I was him.

[Kris Jenner]

I would too. I would feel.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And you would think somebody would. He would reach out and say, hey, I'm really sorry about the way that.

[Kris Jenner]

No, haven't heard from him. Haven't heard even. Like, I feel like he's been doubling down. Like, Rob sent me. He went. I think it was SiriusXM or something. Rob sent me something and he. It was after my Malika episode.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Come on.

[Kris Jenner]

So I don't know if they pre taped it and it came out weeks later. But I. I don't know. I don't think that. I don't think they would have held it. But he was like, something along the lines of, yeah, that marriage made me more popular in the social media world. But other than that, wow, are we okay? It's crazy. I feel like hasn't reached out. I don't think he would care really about me. Clearly. I would think he would be devastated to lose you, my sisters. Rob, like, just thinking how you guys would view him. Cause he's always been very sensitive about that. Yeah, but me, he was. He was playing me from the beginning of the doc. It's not like he was only doing bad press about me. He sat down and gave bad interviews about me in the documentary. So that's where I'm like, you asked me to be a part of something and I willingly did. So. And you're just, like, talking shit about me. Put like, let me know what we're doing so I can have the same energy.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Although I wouldn't. But what is wrong with everybody? That's what I want to know.

[Kris Jenner]

I don't know. Isn't that crazy? It really is.

[Khloe Kardashian]

There's so many other things that we all need to be worrying about and spending our time doing and our energy focused on things that really matter.

[Kris Jenner]

But we're not talking to him anymore.

[Khloe Kardashian]

No.

[Kris Jenner]

Because sometimes I know how you can get.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I have not made a phone call. I have not. I would not do anything like that without telling you first or asking you what you wanted me to do in a situation.

[Kris Jenner]

It's not happening. There is no situation.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Exactly.

[Kris Jenner]

The bridge is burned and I have no more rope left to throw over. Period.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Got it.

[Kris Jenner]

Question.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

Do you believe in God? Yes. No, obviously. That's, like, ridiculous. There is some stories that. There's two versions. Either dinosaurs are really dragons. Dragons feelings on that.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Dinosaurs are dinosaurs.

[Kris Jenner]

Who's to say they didn't have wings and could breathe fire? Oh, who's to say?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Who's to say I don't breathe fire.

[Kris Jenner]

You do.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I think I do.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay, so you're not into the whole dragon conspiracy?

[Khloe Kardashian]

No.

[Kris Jenner]

Okay. Fair. No. What about that dinosaurs are really fake and all of those bones are man made.

[Khloe Kardashian]

I don't believe that. I believe that they're real. Okay. And I feel like not only are they real, but they continue to find fossils in different places and parts of the world that are shocking to the scientists and the archaeologists that go on these digs and come up with this stuff. There's probably civilizations that used to be in a place that are just buried and just people find the bones. Duh. Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

What? Of course.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yes. Well, we agree on something.

[Kris Jenner]

Don't get me started.

[Khloe Kardashian]

So exciting.

[Kris Jenner]

Underneath the pyramids. Everything that's underneath what they're just discovered. Are you into that?

[Khloe Kardashian]

I. I've been out of the loop on what they just discovered.

[Kris Jenner]

I mean, maybe like a year ago. How long ago? Like, like a year.

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[Khloe Kardashian]

two football fields going down.

[Kris Jenner]

Going down.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Oh, totally.

[Kris Jenner]

And the precision. What do you mean totally? Of course.

[Khloe Kardashian]

What they. Of course that exists. Yeah, duh. Like where do you think? It's just a one foot under. And there's. Everything that ever existed is just a foot underground. There are civilizations that existed under.

[Kris Jenner]

She gets what we're saying. The pyramids. The three pyramids in Egypt got you perfectly done with like fucking.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Like, how did they even make that?

[Kris Jenner]

AI precision.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Right.

[Kris Jenner]

Then like way more than football fields underground. You know, they didn't have tools to do this.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Well, maybe they built. And then there was an earthquake and it got covered up.

[Kris Jenner]

And what Just the pyramids are.

[Khloe Kardashian]

And then they built the pyramids.

[Kris Jenner]

How did they do that?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Don't you remember when Courtney went to Egypt and went in the tunnels underground?

[Kris Jenner]

Mom, they just discovered this a year ago and no one found out about it.

[Khloe Kardashian]

She went in the tunnels under the pyramids.

[Kris Jenner]

What?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Don't you remember that?

[Kris Jenner]

I love you, but what is your point? Are you saying she discovered this?

[Khloe Kardashian]

No, my point is there are tunnels that are underneath the pyramid.

[Kris Jenner]

No, they just discovered this. This is something very different. And there's like cylinders that. Each cylinder is like 20 tons. There's like 10 cylinders on each thing.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Let me do a deep. A deep dive. No pun intended on how I feel about this. But I.

[Kris Jenner]

And while you're at it.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Giants, Giants.

[Kris Jenner]

Do a deep dive on giants. All the fucking big archaeological giants.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Giants are my whales.

[Kris Jenner]

No, that's gross.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Like, it's only gross when I say it.

[Kris Jenner]

She can have anything she wants no whales is gross. Oh, what, you don't like giants? Giants, like you get freaked out.

[Khloe Kardashian]

There was a movie when I was a little girl where this little girl lived in a house and she looked outside and there was a but a huge, huge, huge giant. And I could never find the movie again. But that movie freaked me out, I think for the rest of my life. Giants are like. Freaks me out. Like when you're big, like you have a head as big as this table, looking into a little dollhouse, that kind of thing.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah, I can understand how that's not.

[Khloe Kardashian]

It's so creepy exciting.

[Kris Jenner]

But they're not here anymore.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Giants.

[Kris Jenner]

Correct.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Where'd they go? I don't know.

[Kris Jenner]

That's what we're all trying to figure out.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Also, somebody told me there's a whole conspiracy about what's under the ocean.

[Kris Jenner]

Yeah, what about it? The aliens?

[Khloe Kardashian]

No. Well, who knows what's under there?

[Kris Jenner]

Uso.

[Khloe Kardashian]

There's a percentage of the ocean that's never been even explored.

[Kris Jenner]

Are you on a other planet?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Yeah, I am.

[Kris Jenner]

80 something percent of our waters are unchartered. That's what you're talking about? Just what's in the water? Why do you think I hate it so much? We don't know what the fuck is there. Whenever you go to like a tropical place and someone's like, are there sharks here? They're like, no. How? It's an ocean. There's sharks everywhere. Everywhere that they identify new aquatic animals every few years. They're like, oh, a species we never saw before. How do you not know?

[Khloe Kardashian]

Like hello.

[Kris Jenner]

It's crazy, but I've been telling you for years. That's why I don't like it. I think they just discovered 10 new species of whales. Whales? Whales. This big ass fish. And you guys don't have them all labeled and like what their species are? That's insane to me. So no, I don't love the water and it's all unchartered for. That's fucking scary. There's shit in there that they don't want us to see. No one better tell me that there's no mermaids. There's definitely mermaid. We don't even know. We don't even know.

[Khloe Kardashian]

We don't know because everything is AI

[Kris Jenner]

well now when you see the AI Mermaids. Yes. And guess what? If it's real, you're gonna say it's AI. You saw that little alien walking around the Arizona military base. People want to say it's AI I don't think that's AI. You saw that little fucker just prancing around with the fucking military men. That is fucking real. But what are you gonna say?

[Khloe Kardashian]

It's AI, right? We're fucked. Yeah. Fucked. Yeah.

[Kris Jenner]

Fuck em.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Fuck em.

[Kris Jenner]

Fuck em.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Fuck em.

[Kris Jenner]

Yep. I am so happy. You got to get stuff off your chest. Clearly, I got to get stuff off my chest. And that is essentially what Chloe in Wonderland is now for. Which is what I'm learning.

[Khloe Kardashian]

Well, everybody, thanks for the therapy.