Khloé in Wonder Land — Part 1 ft. Kim Kardashian

Date: January 21, 2026
Podcast Host: Khloé Kardashian
Guest: Kim Kardashian

Episode Overview

The season opener of Khloé in Wonder Land is billed as a “juicy” and unfiltered conversation between sisters Khloé and Kim Kardashian. Part 1 explores family, parenting, internet rumors, fame, and the realities of growing up and evolving in the public eye. The tone is candid, humorous, and deeply reflective, with a focus on sharing never-before-heard stories and corrected narratives, plus touching moments about motherhood, personal growth, and their unique path through fame.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Tone: Candid, Playful, and "Juicy"

• The sisters agree the episode should be open and revealing:
  • “From the second we decided we were going to do this, you said, it has to be juicy.” — Khloé (00:02)
  • “No one better see these texts or we're all canceled.” — Kim (00:07)
• The conversational structure is established, not a formal interview, but an open dialogue.
• Playful banter about the idea of podcast conversation as "foreplay":
  • “You know, we'll do foreplay.” — Khloé (01:51)

2. Texts, Group Chats, and Digital Privacy

• Kim's most used group chat is affectionately called "Bat Chat" with Khloé, Lala, Tracy, Steph (02:28).
• The sisters joke about their Bat Chat being completely unfiltered and private:
  • “It's like a place to really let it out. Just talk about anything and everything.” — Kim (02:52)
• Advice for snoopers:
  • “If they were smart... they’d go straight to the group chat. That’s where the girls chat.” — Kim (03:15)

3. Pop Culture, Burn Books, and Rumor Reporting

• Anecdote about a Mean Girls-style anonymous gossip site in the gay community (03:43).
• Lighthearted reflection on the insularity and drama of celebfamous circles.

4. Nostalgic and Personal Insights: Photos and Hair

• First and last photos on their camera rolls lead to a discussion of personal memories.
• Kim’s hair journeys and commitment to beauty experimentation:
  • “I have had some, like, serious hair health journeys, and so I do, like, all the things to make sure that it's as healthy as possible... the red light hat, every serum you could possibly imagine.” — Kim (05:16)
• On favorite beauty treatment:
  • “Botox, probably. Or just, like, a really good facial.” — Kim (06:44)

5. Kardashian Kloset — The Real Story

(07:07–09:41)

• Addresses criticism about Kardashian Kloset, explaining the real purpose: supporting their cousin Cece, who is a cancer survivor.
  • “Our cousin Cece is fashion obsessed... her dream of life was to go to a fashion show, and when she finished some chemo... she would always ask us, what do you guys do with your stuff when you're finished wearing it?” — Kim (07:14)
• Kardashian Kloset is a means for Cece to have purpose, employment, and fulfillment during treatments.
• Khloé emphasizes the personal and supportive nature of the endeavor:
  • “It really gave her a will to fight. Of course, she gets a commission off every sale... we want to give to Cece and make Cece feel good and that she has something to do every day.” — Khloé (08:42)

6. Parenting Styles & Family Dynamics

(10:09–13:16)

• Comparing Khloé and Kim’s parenting styles:
  • “You're really strict, and I love that. And you're very structured.” — Kim (10:16)
  • Khloé admits her kids are still young, but appreciates the reflection.
• Revealing personal details about North West’s birth:
  • “North... was born getting born to the song Bohemian Rhapsody. Kanye was DJing... for the moment she came out.” — Kim (10:52)
• Discussing how parenting evolves with more children:
  • Kim is stricter with her younger children, and has adjusted her approach over time.

7. North’s Expression and Homeschooling

(17:10–21:05)

• On scrutiny for how North expresses herself:
  • “She’s been, it's funny, like people are like, oh this blue hair, all of this... but she's always loved the colored braids in her hair. She really is who she is and always has been that girl unapologetically.” — Kim (17:10)
• Kim details the homeschooling curriculum she’s designed for North, focusing on personalized, creative, and practical learning experiences:
  • “I nurture her. She is homeschooled... She wanted to make hats and jewelry, so we made it a course. She has to do the web design, the budgeting, go to the stores, do the sewing—we do full fashion courses.” — Kim (18:00)
• Kim has taken months off to be directly involved in North’s curriculum and creative pursuits.

8. Co-parenting, Family Bonds & Empathy

• Kim reflects on her improved co-parenting with Ye (Kanye West), especially bonded over North’s musical interests:
  • “At the end of the day, we're always family... the music side and the producing isn't my thing, and that's her bonding thing with her dad.” — Kim (21:05)
• On maintaining a healthy, united front for the kids:
  • “You just kind of have to put all the other stuff aside.” — Kim (21:55)

9. Family Bedtime, Separation Anxiety, and Technology

• Kim’s children still sleep in her room:
  • “They do.” — Kim (22:01)
• Kim describes how her children crave closeness, and she records messages for them to listen to when she’s away (22:45).
• Use of Life360 app for family location sharing:
  • “Saint will be checking it. And he'll just be like, mom, you know you're here. When are you going to head home?” — Kim (23:21)

10. Reminiscing About "Keeping Up With The Kardashians"

(23:42–25:34)

• Kim rarely watches old episodes but treasures them as "the best home movies."
• Openness to showing the raw, sometimes cringe-y, moments including family fights, for authenticity:
  • “I can really step back and look, like from a producer's eye.” — Kim (25:34)
  • On airing the infamous slap fight: “Mom was like, this can never see the light of day. She was freaking out. And I was like, you're not in it. So it is making the cut.” — Kim (25:36)

11. Wild Rumors, AI, and the Limits of Fact-Checking

(25:46–28:20)

• Addressing bizarre AI-generated dating rumors, fake tweets, and manipulated images:
  • “AI is insane... There was a photo of me and Kevin Durant... And it said 'if there is ever a basketball player that I would date, he's the one.' And it said all this stuff, like a real quote from me with a picture. And I'm like, I... never said that.” — Kim (26:49)
• Concerns about distinguishing real vs fake in the era of AI:
  • “Even the AI photos... they're so real, some of them, and it's really fucked up.” — Khloé (27:40)
• The sisters share laughter over the joyously ridiculous AI “dancing” videos.

12. Music Taste Surprises & Celebrity Favorites

• Kim confirms she listens to Taylor Swift and loves country music, especially Shania Twain, Carrie Underwood, LeAnn Rimes (28:28–29:01).

13. Staging Paparazzi Moments in Early Fame

(29:23–32:17)

• Kim describes the intentional effort behind getting noticed:
  • “We knew, like, we wanted people to vote for me, so... we made 'vote for Kim' T-shirts... You knew where [the paparazzi] were, right? So you would just go like that.” — Kim (30:06)
  • “Being desperate was... cool to be desperate back then. I lived for it.” — Kim (30:17)
• Anecdotes with Jonathan Cheban, including riding in a Rolls Royce for staged photo ops, and practicing the Victoria Beckham “no-smile” look outside Intermix (30:17–32:13).

14. Surprise Phone Call with Jonathan Cheban

(32:26–34:16)

• Quick, affectionate call with Jonathan, reminiscing about the old days and the challenge of maintaining friendships when lifestyles diverge due to kids and schedules.

15. Leaks, Media Manipulation and Family Tactics

(38:54–41:32)

• Khloé references J.Lo’s famous “leak test,” and Kim describes leak problems during KUWTK filming:
  • “There was leaks every single week of all the stuff that we were filming. We were on the cover of every magazine... but that was feeding the beast and then getting us to film more things to shut it down.” — Kim (39:03)
• Kim once sent different baby photos of North to separate groups to determine the leak (but forgot who got which):
  • “Then I forgot what group I sent what pictures. So I was fucked.” — Kim (41:15)

16. Career Anxiety, Reputation & Public Scrutiny

(41:34–43:32)

• Kim’s fear her reputation wouldn't survive certain scandals:
  • “Hundreds of times... when I got a divorce... I thought my life was over. The dramatics or no one's going to talk to me again.” — Kim (41:39)
  • “I just thought, like, our careers were over. I brought us up by taking us right down.” — Kim (42:04)
• The sisters reflect on media cycles of building and tearing down celebrities.

17. Celebrity Interactions — Kindness Over Rejection

• Kim reflects she remembers celebrities being welcoming, not rude, in her early fame years:
  • “I just remember so many people being so kind and so welcoming...” — Kim (43:12)

18. The “Elephant Birkin” Drama & Responding to False Narratives

(43:40–47:43)

• Kim discusses being criticized over an exotic leather Birkin bag prop (which was a fake):
  • “That was a bag that is fake, that we bought for extra props... even like everything about the texture is not whatever. But what I was so annoyed with myself about is just that message... that the elephant Birkin was okay.” — Kim (44:00)
• Kim highlights Ellen DeGeneres's impactful, compassionate outreach on animal causes.
• Kim’s balancing act in publicly addressing vs ignoring rumors:
  • “Sometimes I'm like, oh, I'm not going to give it attention because I can't just sit there all day and shut everything down, you know... sometimes you just have to give a statement if something's totally... It just... depends on my mood.” — Kim (45:54)
  • “We are conscious of everything that's going on... sometimes we're like: we're not giving it energy — or we're going to have to give this, this, this, and this energy.” — Kim (47:02)

19. The Craziest Rumors, Social Media Virality, and AI

(47:43–48:40)

• Some wild and obviously fake rumors make the sisters laugh, including a supposed jet ski accident video and bizarre tweets (even bathroom-related).
  • “Speaking of AI, I think there was even a fake tweet of Kanye saying that, like, oh, Kim is, like, in the bathroom, like, having diarrhea or something. And I'm like, what do people think this stuff is real.” — Kim (48:20)

20. Teasing More Iconic Stories to Come

• Khloé hints at unfinished business, promising even more untold stories and “tea” in the next episode segment.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• On Group Chat Secrets: “No one better see these texts or we're all canceled.” — Kim (00:07)
• On Parenting: “North... was born getting born to the song Bohemian Rhapsody. Kanye was DJing... for the moment she came out.” — Kim (10:52)
• On Rumors: "AI is insane... There was a photo, an AI photo of me and Kevin Durant... It's absolutely just not true." — Kim (26:49)
• On Fame: “It was cool to be desperate back then. I lived for it.” — Kim (30:22)
• On Handling Scandal: “I brought us up by taking us right down. I'm sorry, guys — but better me than anyone.” — Kim (42:08)
• On Public Criticism: “I wish I was a little bit smarter on that and made a better choice on that [the Birkin prop].” — Kim (45:04)
• On Media and Leaks: “There was leaks every single week of all the stuff that we were filming. We were on the cover of every magazine... feeding the beast.” — Kim (39:03)
• On Celebrity Reception: “I just remember so many people being so kind and so welcoming...” — Kim (43:12)

Memorable, Lighter Moments

• Kim and Khloé admit to being “cool with being desperate” for paparazzi attention in the early days, and orchestrating photo ops (30:17).
• The surprise call to Jonathan Cheban offers real-time proof of ongoing friendship (32:43).
• The candid reveal that Kim's kids still sleep in her room, and her sweet habit of recording Build-A-Bear messages for them when she travels (22:45).

Useful Timestamps by Topic

• Intro and "Bat Chat": 00:00–03:33
• Mean Girls Gossip Site & Photos: 03:33–04:36
• Hair & Beauty: 05:14–06:44
• Kardashian Kloset / Cece: 07:07–09:41
• Parenting Styles & Family: 10:09–13:16
• North’s Expression & Homeschooling: 17:10–21:05
• Co-parenting with Ye: 21:05–22:00
• Parenting Details & Bedtime: 22:00–23:49
• Reminiscing "KUWTK": 23:42–25:34
• AI Rumors: 25:46–28:20
• Music Tastes: 28:28–29:01
• Paparazzi/Early Fame: 29:23–32:17
• Jonathan Cheban Call: 32:26–34:16
• Leaks & Media Tactics: 38:54–41:32
• Career Survival Anxiety: 41:34–43:32
• Elephant Birkin Drama: 43:40–47:43
• Craziest Rumors: 47:43–48:40

Conclusion

This episode of Khloé in Wonder Land sets the stage for a more intimate, revealing look at life in the Kardashian-Jenner orbit. Refreshingly unvarnished, it features vulnerable admissions, life lessons, and a playful back-and-forth that fans will find both relatable and entertaining. With more “tea” teased for Part 2, listeners can look forward to even more unfiltered Kardashian stories ahead.