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Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God. I'm just playing with him now.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God. I'm just playing with him now. Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Hi.
Morgan Stewart
Thank you so much. You look insane. This body. I cannot.
Khloe Kardashian
Being a podcaster is not easy.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God, it's so not easy.
Khloe Kardashian
I always say, like, steer the train or the bus, whatever the bus this is. I'm like, we're off the tracks. I think people find you so refreshing with your honesty. You're not being mean. You're just saying, what is she wearing?
Morgan Stewart
And not only does she look like she's paying people to make her look like, correct. Who the is dressing her?
Khloe Kardashian
You love to know people's signs. Love.
Morgan Stewart
What's your rising? Do you know your rising?
Khloe Kardashian
I don't.
Morgan Stewart
How have you been on TV for 50 years and you don't know your rising sign? You could Google it. Do astro chart. Khloe Kardashian. We'll get it right now. I got pregnant two and a half months after I gave birth.
Khloe Kardashian
Crazy. And I love that he was the gas. Big in the room. Said that.
Morgan Stewart
You got to keep that up. Are we good on karma? Like, why do they keep testing us so hard?
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know. I'm like, we're good people. Right?
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
We don't even have the freedom to crumble. Whoa.
Morgan Stewart
That was. Are you going to cut that? That was crazy. The Freedom to crumble. Is your book title like this when you are the boss. It don't matter what?
Khloe Kardashian
Because. I am so excited to have Ms. Morgan Stewart on Chloe in Wonderland.
Morgan Stewart
I'm so happy to be here.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, my gosh. Well, you look like a Barbie.
Morgan Stewart
Well, can I tell you, I told you this off camera and I'm going to let everyone know now. I knew, first of all, I wanted to be on so badly because I knew the lighting was not going to play around.
Khloe Kardashian
No, we don't play here.
Morgan Stewart
No, I knew it is literally walk
Khloe Kardashian
around with all of this. I would. I was like, where does the budget go?
Morgan Stewart
Lighting.
Khloe Kardashian
Lighting?
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, lighting. I literally been recording my. Whatever we're early in in my podcast. The lighting is so terrible. It's like recording at, like, a Rite Aid.
Khloe Kardashian
Why? There's no point yet.
Morgan Stewart
There will be.
Khloe Kardashian
That's terrifying. A Rite Aid. What? I'm so excited for your podcast.
Morgan Stewart
I think it's gonna be really good not to plug that so early, by the way.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't care.
Morgan Stewart
I wish.
Khloe Kardashian
I love Desperation.
Morgan Stewart
Can you. I literally was so thirsty about that.
Khloe Kardashian
I always get questions like, how did you and I meet? And I think I have a memory, but I don't know if it's my memory, the real memory. I don't know.
Morgan Stewart
How did we meet?
Khloe Kardashian
So my version is more through, like, Rob. Because Rob was friends with Roxy.
Morgan Stewart
Yes.
Khloe Kardashian
So that's the reality.
Morgan Stewart
That's the reality.
Khloe Kardashian
Okay. I was like, is this true?
Morgan Stewart
This was pre. I think you even having the show.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes. So Rob, my brother, had a best friend named Roxy that he went to Buckley with. So like elementary. Elementary school.
Morgan Stewart
And then college.
Khloe Kardashian
Then college. And they were besties. And then Roxy became friends with you. Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
First year of college. We were very close.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes.
Morgan Stewart
So that's.
Khloe Kardashian
I just remember I met you with Rob.
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
And then you and I have like always been like digital friends. Digital friends, but like big ass supporters of one another. Like, I be like, yeah, Morgan's my friend, but they're like, when have you seen her? Like, oh, never. But like, we're. But we're best friends. We talking about.
Morgan Stewart
We don't hang, we don't talk, but we. We dm.
Khloe Kardashian
That's my favorite kind of friendship completely. I don't have the energy for a high maintenance friendship. Also, people, we're adults now.
Morgan Stewart
Adults. We don't have time. We're really tired. Not only that, people that don't check their DMS or don't respond. You're not that busy.
Khloe Kardashian
No, you're not that busy.
Morgan Stewart
You're not that busy.
Khloe Kardashian
Sometimes it takes me, cuz I take social media breaks. But once I'm on there, I'm checking everything. I'm responding to everyone. But also, don't put this much pressure on anyone. People ever, like, where have you been? When are we doing. Shut the fuck up. Like, we have jobs, we have kids, we have relationships, we have families.
Morgan Stewart
Also, even going out, I cannot go out more than once a week.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
If I want to function.
Khloe Kardashian
Agreed.
Morgan Stewart
I had some friends in town last week. I went out three. Three different nights. I thought I went to Coachella and like, did cocaine off the ground. I was so exhausted.
Khloe Kardashian
No, it's.
Morgan Stewart
I can't.
Khloe Kardashian
Different.
Morgan Stewart
It's different. It's very different. So I am aligned with you and people that are like, oh, a last minute plan. There's absolutely no last minute plan.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't understand that.
Morgan Stewart
No way.
Khloe Kardashian
Right now I'm getting texts from my sister and two of our friends and they're like, do you want to meet for lunch right now? I'm like, what? Where are you people? Like, what planet? It's a Tuesday. Aren't we busy? They're like, oh, Something fell through. I'm like, I'm busy. At least put some respect on my name.
Morgan Stewart
Literally. And also, you're like, we have a job. You have multiple jobs.
Khloe Kardashian
Don't we all? I feel like, literally at this point.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God. No. And that's so funny, because I was even thinking on the way, okay, we met with Rob, but then I think even when I was doing Rich kids, I don't think we even really crossed paths. We literally were digital then, too.
Khloe Kardashian
Super. Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. So here we are.
Khloe Kardashian
Loved it.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Well, hi, bestie.
Morgan Stewart
Hi, bestie. I know we're gonna make this. We're gonna. Once a year, we'll do, like, an in person. We'll do this six months in advance. We'll, like, make a plan, and then
Khloe Kardashian
if we need a cancel, I'll blow in your pod. And then, like, these could be our yearly situations.
Morgan Stewart
Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
I didn't even have to ask, but can panel lighting.
Morgan Stewart
You know what we need to do?
Khloe Kardashian
We'll bring this guy.
Morgan Stewart
Well, I was gonna say we need to. We need to do it here and then put a logo or something, because
Khloe Kardashian
I think we could switch these out. You know, my mom does that, and she's like, can I use your studio space? And I'm like, sure, it was someone, but she, like, switches these out because I like your lighting. I'm like, no, whatever you say. Kris Jenner, by the way.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, she really. What is it even like to have a mom that iconic? And she, you know. Well, she. I will say I have an iconic mom, but. Chris, can I tell you the most random fact that just came to my mind?
Khloe Kardashian
What?
Morgan Stewart
You guys. So I haven't. Or I have had an older brother, seven years older than me. I was going through two months ago, his yearbook. Kim and my brother were in the same kindergarten class.
Khloe Kardashian
No.
Morgan Stewart
At El Rodeo.
Khloe Kardashian
I'm telling you, Kim would remember, too.
Morgan Stewart
How we. I saw. We were looking in the book, and she. I was like, is it. And I was like, there's not more than one Kim Kardashian. That was the most random.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, she looks just like. Like Chicago and her. You'd be like, is that Chicago? They look like twins.
Morgan Stewart
Like twins. But that was so random.
Khloe Kardashian
That is so random.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. So I guess, like, energetically, we've been circ each other for many lives.
Khloe Kardashian
Very Beverly Hills.
Morgan Stewart
Very. I know.
Khloe Kardashian
Very Beverly Hills.
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Khloe Kardashian
So for you, Ms. Morgan.
Morgan Stewart
Yes.
Khloe Kardashian
You've been on reality TV since 2014. 24.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. Jesus. 2014.
Khloe Kardashian
That's so long ago.
Morgan Stewart
Like, so long ago. It's so crazy that I even, like people still remember it because we did what? Well, we did four seasons.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Remember when we started, they were like, we're going to put you after the Kardashians so you have a shot in hell. That's what they said. They were like, you're not going to survive. But if we put you on. You guys were nine on Sundays or 10.
Khloe Kardashian
We were nine. It was nine east.
Morgan Stewart
Yes, nine east. Okay. So we were on directly after you. And I remember thinking, like, if the only shot we have is to only be after this one show, like, we're fucked. We ended up doing four seasons and then that was the end of that.
Khloe Kardashian
Why do you think it stopped? Because it was great and it's still great. Oh, my God. I think it is so funny. Don't you see the clips on I Was so Ugly? It's hard for me to watch it.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God, what was I doing?
Khloe Kardashian
Been there. But I love a good glow up. I would rather be better now than then.
Morgan Stewart
No, that's true. Also, like, my biggest advice to like young girls is really to stay as ugly as you can for as long as you can. It's true. Right. Because if you're beautiful at 25, you're a dog at 35.
Khloe Kardashian
That's true.
Morgan Stewart
You need to be ugly, ugly, ugly, and then be like, oh, all the pretty. It's like when you had pretty friends when they were like 12.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
No one was pretty at 12.
Khloe Kardashian
No.
Morgan Stewart
Kim Kardashian is the only pretty 12 year old and she's maintained it.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes.
Morgan Stewart
That's the only person. And I'm not saying that because that's your sister. It's just a fact.
Khloe Kardashian
No, I mean, it's the truth. I say it to her all the time. It sucks.
Morgan Stewart
So it's hard to, like, you know, be pretty when you're young and then also pretty when you're old.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
So the globe was good.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
But rich goods. Yeah. I think it ended because the. I think management or whoever was working there at the time was like, once I got married, they were like, we don't know where else this show's gonna go.
Khloe Kardashian
That's crazy.
Morgan Stewart
It was a mistake.
Khloe Kardashian
It was a mistake. I still think it stands like, I stand behind it. I think now, like, people also miss the. I'm gonna say the older versions of reality tv because it was so real and it was so ridiculous. And now everyone has to be so thoughtful about every single thing they say. Like, I still film, but it's not the Same filming. Like, even what we're so afraid to shoot or to go to certain. Like, are we offending someone? Are we doing something? Like, the overthinking of everything is just not normal.
Morgan Stewart
You don't come across that way.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, thank you.
Morgan Stewart
I will say, like, I obviously still watch the show. I love it. Thank God it's still on the air. And you feel very. The same way, obviously, like, the sets are better lit and it's just like a different time in your life. But everything still feels like we're getting a true glimpse of you guys.
Khloe Kardashian
You guys are, but it's way more confined. Like, I loved when we could be more free and, like, go to real stores and do, like, little things that I think just allowed for a better banter.
Morgan Stewart
Better.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, I just. I just miss.
Morgan Stewart
Miss that.
Khloe Kardashian
The old authenticity of it all.
Morgan Stewart
But could you do that now? Because you also have risen in fame.
Khloe Kardashian
I know. It's sort of both.
Morgan Stewart
You can't, like, just walk around really, can you? Not really, no.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. But still, I still. I miss all those.
Morgan Stewart
I know.
Khloe Kardashian
I miss all those.
Morgan Stewart
I know.
Khloe Kardashian
Do you miss taping reality tv?
Morgan Stewart
I think what you just said is probably. I haven't thought about it in depth, really. I think I would have preferred to maybe stay on two more. Two more seasons. Three more seasons to really figure ourselves out. I think things would have evolved in a really. And I feel like if I were to do reality TV now, I'm so protective of, like, my marriage, children, as, you know, like, being a mom. I don't want to just, like, I couldn't be as free as I wanted, so I think it's probably better not to do that.
Khloe Kardashian
So I miss the days where I could just talk shit and talk freely and, like, be on my camera and just feel good about it.
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
I've gotten so in my own head about everything, just from everyone.
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
And, like, I envy you and, like, I see the things you're doing and you're just commenting or even. It could be as silly as not even your voice when you're literally typing out your feelings about red carpet looks and I'm dying, like, you cackling on the other end of my phone just because I'm reading it in your voice. You're so good at all of that stuff.
Morgan Stewart
Thank you. I feel like. I mean, you're a television star. Then you did a podcast. I always felt like I was going to be on TV and then maybe have a podcast, because not everyone can be on tv, right? But everyone can have a podcast.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't think so.
Morgan Stewart
I. And I think you're right. I'm starting to, like, change my mind on that. But I feel like there was something, like, really accessible about having a podcast
Khloe Kardashian
that I was like, everyone could have one. By meaning you can set it up yourself and do that. I don't think all of them can sustain. Like, I think you are a personality, and no matter what platform that is, I think it will resonate.
Morgan Stewart
Thank you. You've really instilled the confidence in me. It's been going well. We had to. I also think, like, a lot has happened over last three years. Obviously, the shows got cancelled three years ago when the shows I was doing on E. A lot happened personally in my life, and I was, like, mentally and physically not in a place to take anything on. And actually, in the midst of that, I shot a pilot. And I was so physically anxious on the day, I could not settle. I didn't feel right after my kids for a really long time. I don't know if you went through that, like, physically just not stable. I felt weird. And I remember thinking, like, why is this not easy? Why is this not working out? And, you know, we did the bullshit. Like, we pitched it to everyone. Everyone was like, we love you. You're so funny. But it's just not the time. Talk's hard now, or whatever the fuck they said. And I was like, okay, go fuck yourself. Fine. And then literally eight months ago, my agent was like, are you ready for a podcast? And I was like, Well, I guess TV's not working out, so let's do it. And now I've found, like, this is definitely the right medium.
Khloe Kardashian
I think so.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
And I think everything happens for a reason. And you have been through a lot. Yeah. And I think that's also hard. Sometimes you can't see it for yourself, but you're almost in a place that could have been super damaging for you. And they could have. And I'm not saying all producers are like this, but sometimes they would prey on that. And you lost your father three years ago.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes.
Morgan Stewart
You know what that's like?
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, it's awful. It is awful. And I was in no place. I mean, I was 19, and thank God there was no cameras around me.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God.
Khloe Kardashian
But, you know, I think it's probably the biggest blessing you didn't do that, because I do remember even when I did my show, one of my producers would then make me sit in the room and do interviews about my dad, and I would be sobbing and they're like you can't leave until you're done with these interviews. And. But that's how it is. And when you're also young and especially back then now I don't think they would do that to anyone. But back then. And it was therapeutic after.
Morgan Stewart
Right, okay. So you felt better like getting all that out?
Khloe Kardashian
I. Yeah, I did. And. But at the time, I was so angry. I was like, what the fuck? Why are we talking about this?
Morgan Stewart
And I recently saw you said that he was this. On the show, that you said he hasn't come to you in a dream.
Khloe Kardashian
No, my dad hasn't. Because yours.
Morgan Stewart
Once. Only once. But it's. And, but it's also terrible. Almost like he's almost maybe protecting you. Because I feel like when I was in the dream, I was like, oh my God. Like, you know, you. This person feels very real to you and you're interacting with them as though they're alive. But then you wake up and you're so disoriented and you're like, wait, wait, come back. So it's almost like he knows how sensitive you are. And he's probably like, but you should speak to my medium. He will blow your mind.
Khloe Kardashian
I met with Teresa Caputo. She's just legendary. And she says, like, I can't just pick up on you. Like, if there's other people in the room, I might, like their person might come through and I might pick up. And you're just like, whatever, whatever. And she picked up on so many people in the room. It was so beautiful. Everyone was like sobbing in a great way. She said, my dad, everyone receives things differently. And just because my dad doesn't come to me in a dream, he's coming to me in other ways.
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Morgan Stewart
100%. But do you. Have you been told what signs to look for at all?
Khloe Kardashian
No, but I like the heart. So she was like, do you see? He says that he sends you hearts everywhere. And I see hearts. All this. Like there could be hearts. Like a rock shaped heart that like, shouldn't be there, like in a tree.
Morgan Stewart
Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
And then. Right. I didn't say this to you, but right after one of my girlfriends dropped me off a late Christmas gift and she gave me such a tiny little heart diamond ring. It was the most random thing. And it was red. Like it was none of these colors. I was like, it was so random. And I was like, the fucking heart. It was so weird. And that was after we did the show. But it was all. I believe in all of that.
Morgan Stewart
I'm gonna Set you up with him?
Khloe Kardashian
Yes.
Morgan Stewart
I think it'll be really unbelievable. And you'll be like, you'll take away something from that that you haven't from anything else.
Khloe Kardashian
I believe in all of that.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
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Khloe Kardashian
So I didn't realize that you lost your brother until I read these cards. I would have reached out to you.
Morgan Stewart
Oh my God. Don't. Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
I'm so sorry.
Morgan Stewart
It's been a. Yeah. Yeah. He passed away in July. He was schizophrenic, paranoid schizophrenic. He lived in Switzerland, my mom is Swiss. We have different dads. And he had pneumonia and like from one day to the next. And it was just, I think really he was just so tired of living in that reality.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
And I was with my mom yesterday. She was breaking down. I mean, she's lost her husband and her only son.
Khloe Kardashian
I mean, I was gonna ask you, how is your mom?
Morgan Stewart
I think she.
Khloe Kardashian
Because they were married, they.
Morgan Stewart
So my brother. This is. Even I get disoriented. So my mom was married before my dad had my brother. Then my mom obviously married my dad had me. So we had different dads. My parents were married when my dad died. Right. And then my brother's dad is still alive and they're friends. And then he died in July and I remember I was on in Tuscany with my husband and some Friends. And she called me. She's like, I have bad news. Your brother has pneumonia. And I vividly remember being like, is he gonna die? Or something about dying came into my mind, like, very strongly. And I had always thought, like, okay, this person is gonna be somebody I'm gonna have to look after when my mom is. He needs care. Right. He has people in his head telling him to kill himself every day. Like, it's horrific, this disease. And I remember just having that thought. And she called me the last night of my vacation, two days later, hysterically crying, and was like, your brother died? And I was like. I was like, oh, but my dad just died.
Khloe Kardashian
Right?
Morgan Stewart
Like, that's inconvenient. We can't just have everyone dying. This is crazy.
Khloe Kardashian
Don't mean to laugh.
Morgan Stewart
No, laugh, because it's fucking crazy.
Khloe Kardashian
No, you just position it so humorously. I'm like, oh, my.
Morgan Stewart
And they're probably laughing at me right now, being like, oh, yeah. But, yeah, it's been a really heavy time. And I've only been with my husband, married for five years, and it's like, we've also gone through so much in a short time.
Khloe Kardashian
You have, yeah. But also beautiful. Beautiful because it shows how strong your marriage is and that, you know, he's obviously a ride or die for you.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, he's been amazing.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, it's.
Morgan Stewart
It's been. I mean, some of the most surreal. We were just at my dad's funeral now. We were just at my brother's funeral, and I don't even now. And two kids. And the two kids. I mean, that already is so much fun.
Khloe Kardashian
Being there for your mom.
Morgan Stewart
Being there for my mom. And even now, like, she's having a really rough time, as expected. But she's been so strong, and she's gotten up and gotten dressed every day and really, like, trudged ahead. So now to see her not feeling. She's manifesting it physically. She's not feeling that well today specifically. She's at the doctor right now, and that even I'm like, well, she gonna be okay.
Khloe Kardashian
Right?
Morgan Stewart
Like, is everyone dying?
Khloe Kardashian
Right.
Morgan Stewart
It's very strange.
Khloe Kardashian
Well, I'm assuming you have so much trauma from it, and now you're gonna hear anything, and that's gonna trigger you. So that's where your head's gonna go first.
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Morgan Stewart
And that's the thing. And then I was like, should I have had more kids? Because how that you have so many siblings to be around for whatever happens.
Khloe Kardashian
Right.
Morgan Stewart
You know, I have two, which is, I think, enough. But, like, you know, it's nice to have a big support system.
Khloe Kardashian
I was just talking about this. It really is. So I have my two.
Morgan Stewart
Yes.
Khloe Kardashian
Tristan and I were, like, in and out of being in a relationship when we chose to have Tatum. Right. But really, it wasn't like, we weren't even in, like, a great place, me and Tristan, But I was like, I'm doing this more for true. Like, I need her to have a sibling.
Morgan Stewart
That was the right choice, by the way.
Khloe Kardashian
Obviously, it was. But now I'm like, I have a girl in the freezer.
Morgan Stewart
Do you do it?
Khloe Kardashian
Do I do it? Do I have the bandwidth? I don't know. You do, but, like. Like, my mom had six. I'm like, if she could do it, we can do it.
Morgan Stewart
Six kids.
Khloe Kardashian
I know. That's.
Morgan Stewart
That's crazy. I think you so in the. Do you. But you wouldn't have to carry.
Khloe Kardashian
I wouldn't carry. Just because. Yeah, just that. Because.
Morgan Stewart
Because. Why would you.
Khloe Kardashian
Well, yeah, I just don't. I don't know why.
Morgan Stewart
No.
Khloe Kardashian
I know with Tatum, I was unable to carry. I haven't checked recently, but I'm assuming same thing. But with Tatum, they said it was too high risk. And with her, she's my only girl embryo, so they might suggest the same thing, but either way.
Morgan Stewart
Well, I think you're gonna have another kid.
Khloe Kardashian
Why? Because I don't know what happened to your boob.
Morgan Stewart
I just got a little chill. Like, I just felt like I. When you said girl, I was like, I see true. Having a sister.
Khloe Kardashian
I just feel like girls need sisters. Do you have a sister?
Morgan Stewart
I don't have a sister. And you need a sister. Especially, like, the. More, like, in life now. I wish so badly. Girls are nasty.
Khloe Kardashian
Girls are nasty.
Morgan Stewart
And as you get older, it's harder to trust people and like, people just like people.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Because people are weird.
Khloe Kardashian
People are weird. People are up and insane. Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
So I was like, I really wish, Ro. But then I was like, I. If I don't have an embryo, but I don't want to happen, I physically don't want to do that again.
Khloe Kardashian
It's a lot. It's a lot. But I agree with what you said, how afterwards, the mind, it is mentally on you, and people don't give women enough, like, tolerance and grace for the transition.
Morgan Stewart
Afterwards, I literally was like, up here and then down here. I was not sad, but I physically. My thyroid totally bottomed out. I've said that so many times, I want to kill myself. But it's like, oh, my God, how many times Are you talking about this thyroid issue? But I was, I was like, like I had tremors. I could not sit still because my body was so off and even. Like now I'm very sensitive if like I don't eat a certain amount. When I was working on rich kids, I ate like nothing and had a Coke and did 12 hour days. Now I'm like, so being young, being young. I know, but then I know so many girls my age that are like, have no problem. I'm like, is there not bread on the table? I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. Jessica's like, my assistant's literally like, I'm like, do we have packs of protein I can suck on right now?
Khloe Kardashian
Yes. No, I'm the same. But I'm more like, can someone get me a Dairy Queen stat?
Morgan Stewart
I told my mother in law I was coming out. She's like, I love her. I love her. She's so gorgeous. I love her. She's there just to me. They're not even like famous people. Like, obviously he's quite famous. They're just so normal.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Eating pie or doing whatever the they're doing together. Like, he calls her mom. She calls him dad. Hey, mom.
Khloe Kardashian
So cute.
Morgan Stewart
So cute.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, it's so cute.
Morgan Stewart
I've obviously been around them in very intimate settings. They're just like normal Texan folks. Like, they're just love it. Very sweet. And my mother in law, I got so lucky with her. She is so supportive of me. So nice. You know, I mean, I don't know if I'm going to be that nice to my son's girl.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know either.
Morgan Stewart
I don't think so.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. I think it just depends on the girl.
Morgan Stewart
It is.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
I don't think anyone's going to be good enough.
Khloe Kardashian
I know.
Morgan Stewart
Let alone like, are you giving her your. No.
Khloe Kardashian
But you also have to get on board.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Because the sun can leave.
Morgan Stewart
The sun will leave.
Khloe Kardashian
I know. I'm stressed out about it.
Morgan Stewart
You have to like keep them close.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. And be like, I love her, but hopefully you really will.
Morgan Stewart
Wow. That really stresses me out. And then, then we have to deal with their mom and then who's going to do the wedding stuff? Because. But I think in like our position we trump that. Right? Like, no, the. That mom's not gonna plan anything because they don't have a clue.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. No, I just think we do it.
Morgan Stewart
Okay, good.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. I was like, just like dominate and you just are like, I will take this.
Morgan Stewart
I will take off your flu. And I Will pay for all of it. Right. Because I don't need, like, a purple orchid in the middle or something. I'll kill myself. Right? Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
No, no. Lifelong photos like that. That's horrifying.
Morgan Stewart
I know. I'm stressed out about that.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. Well, you have some time being on tv. Do you feel like people still associate you with that Morgan Stewart? Do they think that's, like, a good question? All you are, if that makes sense.
Morgan Stewart
I think even more now because, like, obviously, like, we did rich kids. And now my life, I think, to people, feels so much bigger and real in a way. Like, a camera's not around, so it's not performative. I think people have seen me evolve. How do I want to answer that question? I think coming back to the podcast, people are going to see, like, oh, shit. Life has really happened to this girl. Like, we know her one way, and that's very much a part of who she is, but she's now come out the other side of some really heavy shit, and she's more grounded, more serious. I think people think I'm a little. Probably meaner or less caring than I am.
Khloe Kardashian
Really?
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Why do you think that I.
Morgan Stewart
Or maybe I have a false version, like, vision of who I am publicly?
Khloe Kardashian
I think you do.
Morgan Stewart
Okay, good. So I seem nice.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Okay, good.
Khloe Kardashian
I think people find you to be, like, so refreshing with your honesty.
Morgan Stewart
Thank you.
Khloe Kardashian
Because, like, that doesn't. Like, that's even something I miss about myself. Like, it's just not there anymore because everyone wants to talk and do that. Like, people are, like, finally, like, someone who's still not afraid to be honest. And you're not being mean. You're just saying, what the is she wearing? She looks like. But, like, she does.
Morgan Stewart
She does look, like.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes.
Morgan Stewart
And only. Does she look like she's paying people to make her look, like, Correct. Why is that? Hap. Emily Blunt. I love her. I love her so much. She's our queen. She's coming out. Who the is dressing her?
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know those things.
Morgan Stewart
I. It really just. It. It's so easy, and sometimes I'm like, should I be a professional stylist?
Khloe Kardashian
You don't want to do that.
Morgan Stewart
I don't want to do that.
Khloe Kardashian
No.
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Morgan Stewart
Hell, yeah. And if someone leaves me, I'll be like, yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
You're like, are you dumb? What's wrong with you?
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
No, I think people love watching you. Thank you. But what I mean is, I think that people. What I'm excited about you for.
Morgan Stewart
Yes.
Khloe Kardashian
Is that people get to see you more multifaceted. And I think from what I think is people are like, oh, Morgan lives this, like, very cushy life, and she loves fashion and blah, blah, blah. Like, those things are all true. But there's also 20 other things about you. True. That I think, especially, like, you're such a hard worker. Thank you. And I don't think people realize that about you.
Morgan Stewart
This. We. Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
No, but like, even, like, I remember when you did Morgan Stewart sport.
Morgan Stewart
Yes.
Khloe Kardashian
Am I right?
Morgan Stewart
Yes.
Khloe Kardashian
Okay. And, like, you were, like, hustling and trying and doing that. Then you're like, you know what? I'm gonna scrap this. Let me revamp it. And then rengali.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. Wrangly. But you know what's so funny? Everybody says rangali. And I. If I tell you, if I didn't. If it wasn't mine, I would also say that. And sometimes I'm like, we should call it that because it feels very exotic.
Khloe Kardashian
Wrangly.
Morgan Stewart
Wrangly.
Khloe Kardashian
But, like, how you do things. You put your heart and your soul into them. And I think if you were just some, like, pillow princess.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
You would just be letting. You wouldn't care. You'd be like, whatever. I just want to have something for the sake of saying I have it.
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
But you're in there, you're hustling, and you're all those other things, too. You can still have this beautiful life. You can still be a mom of two. You can still. Being a podcaster is not easy.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God, it's so not easy. Having a guest on is insane.
Khloe Kardashian
No, it's insane. It really is. Like, I'm like, I have to talk to Morgan for an hour. Sounds smart.
Morgan Stewart
No, it's hard. I was really. And I'm so empathetic because I get stressed out for the host because I'm like, you don't want to ambush. But you're also like, it is so hard to talk to anybody for an
Khloe Kardashian
hour, but just to, like, to. I always say, like, steer the train or the bus, whatever the fuck this is. I'm like, we're off the track. I've been, like, listening sometimes, and I'm like, that's great. And then I'm like, oh, shit, I'm supposed to ask another question.
Morgan Stewart
Another question.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know.
Morgan Stewart
But also, it's also abnormal to have to stay in conversation. I talked to my own mother on my podcast two weeks ago, and I was like, are we getting a fucking break? No, I need to take a break. I need to take a Breath. I'm exhausted.
Khloe Kardashian
Just gather my thoughts. What did we just talk about? Like, in my head, I'm like, okay, check, check, check.
Morgan Stewart
No. Can I tell you honestly, prior to what we just started talking about, I don't remember what we were saying.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't have a clue what we talked about. Not clue. No. I black out because I'm like, yeah, okay, we got this. It's 22 minutes. Okay. No, it's freaking me out.
Morgan Stewart
And I'm thinking, like, you have to come on my podcast. And I'm like, what the fuck else are we going to talk about?
Khloe Kardashian
Well, then you get to be stressed and I don't.
Morgan Stewart
Exactly. Yes, you're right.
Khloe Kardashian
I am surprised that you have that negative perception of yourself from what you think the public thinks. Because I see something. Don't you? To I feel like. Like, even Alexa was like, have you seen her TikTok? She's so fucking funny.
Morgan Stewart
And first of all, I want to just clear up. Ankle, gate, ankle boot, gate. Ankle boots are okay if they're covered, but you can't wear a skirt and an ankle boot. It doesn't look good on anybody.
Khloe Kardashian
No.
Morgan Stewart
No one.
Khloe Kardashian
You don't need to have cankles, but you will.
Morgan Stewart
You will. Yeah, it's not.
Khloe Kardashian
I do have ankle boots, but I wear them under, like, slacks or jeans. Same, because you don't want the lines up here. But I do agree, you cannot. That's very. Like, 2009.
Morgan Stewart
Very.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, people would wear ankle boots.
Morgan Stewart
It's also, like, 1999. Oh, is that. I don't even know how old I was at that point, but it doesn't matter.
Khloe Kardashian
I think I was 15. Yeah, but.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, that was the math. I couldn't even if you gave me 10 grand.
Khloe Kardashian
I know that I was 16 in 2000. That's all I know.
Morgan Stewart
Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
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Morgan Stewart
God, I really get stressed. I mean, I'm obviously not. I'm like a C minus level fame, I would say. Well, like on a global scale. Like, I feel like people, the people that know me know me, but not everybody know. Like that's fair, right? Like, no, but not everybody knows who I am. So my point in bringing that up is what I don't abcd. I'm not getting scrutiny on a huge level. Right. So it's manageable. Thing is, but yeah, obviously overwhelming. If there's any sort of like something that's like inaccurate or people are making nasty comments, I will say I've been pretty lucky. Where I haven't gotten a lot of it. People won't say it to my face and they won't write it, but they'll talk about it behind my back. It's more of that. But yeah, I definitely don't want to have. For me, number one is a calm nervous system. So anything that's going to derail that I don't do well with.
Khloe Kardashian
Do you feel the need to set the record straight if there is something false about you? Like, would you publicly say it?
Morgan Stewart
I've. I think it really depends on what it is. I think I know I've learned to like, let things go because if you start getting into the weeds with people who already have a certain perception of you that's not real.
Khloe Kardashian
Right.
Morgan Stewart
Why even. It's like trying to be friends with somebody who doesn't like you.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. They're already committed to that.
Morgan Stewart
They're committed to that and I don't care. And also I live in my truth, which is I have a wonderful life. I know I'm a really good person. There's people in my life now that are. I feel like I've distanced with that, like, are hell bent on thinking this person is not a good person. And I just. Now I'm like Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
We're not meant to be in each other's lives.
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Khloe Kardashian
That is the beauty of getting older.
Morgan Stewart
Totally.
Khloe Kardashian
You're like, and therapy. I'm not going.
Morgan Stewart
It's a lot.
Khloe Kardashian
I'm not going to argue with an idiot. We're good, we're good.
Morgan Stewart
Do whatever you want. However you want to think about me, that's totally fine.
Khloe Kardashian
Do you think you've always been so deeply self aware?
Morgan Stewart
Yes, always. I've always had a really good sense of self. I know my faults, I know my flaws. I'm not like, oh, I don't do that. I maybe don't realize how strong I come across sometimes. And maybe unintentionally mean, like, dealing with certain things. If I'm like talking to my husband sometimes I'm a little sharp and I don't mean to be that way, but I know, I know pretty well, like, this is a good thing about me. This is not such a good thing about me. And I could work on X, Y and Z.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, you're someone you love to know people's signs.
Morgan Stewart
Love.
Khloe Kardashian
And you love like an energist type of person. Do you follow that intuition? Like, even if it's someone's sign, like, do you really like, okay, you're. I'm a cancer. If you're like, you're a cancer, I know these traits about you and do you go off of that?
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, I feel like for me it's more like if I have a difficult time speaking to somebody or not getting along with them, I usually ask their sign more. The only sign that sticks out that I'm like, okay, this is challenging is Pisces. But as of lately, really, as of late, I've really started to like. I have a lot of Pisces I really love. So I'm evolving. But yes, I do think the signs are very accurate.
Khloe Kardashian
Every. Like Pisces and I get along so well.
Morgan Stewart
Cancer and Pisces. But what's your rising? Do you know your rising?
Khloe Kardashian
I don't.
Morgan Stewart
How do you not know? How have you been on TV for 50 years and you don't know your rising sign? What was Tristan?
Khloe Kardashian
Pisces. My dad's a Pisces, my brother's a Pisces. The twins are Pisces.
Morgan Stewart
Very funny too.
Khloe Kardashian
Rob is very funny and Rob is very emotional, which is a Pisces. Male Pisces are very different than female Pisces.
Morgan Stewart
I think every female Pisces I've had difficulty. But weirdly, Rob weirdly is one of the funniest people I've ever met.
Khloe Kardashian
No, he is. And dry as, like. Yes.
Morgan Stewart
You're, like, so funny.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
And that's so funny from when we were 15. He's like, no, that you look bad there. And he was just always very. Yeah, okay.
Khloe Kardashian
He's so funny. He really is.
Morgan Stewart
Do we know it? I knew. What is it? Gemini. Rising moon. Oh, so all your emotions and, like, how you project to the world is Gemini? No, I'm Gemini. And can I tell you when you have. Listen to me. I'm Gemini Sun. My husband is Gemini Moon. When your moon sign is the same as someone's sun sign, you're very compatible. Which is why we've probably had, like, this digital, like, courtship romance for all these years, because there's an energy. What's the Rising sun and Cancer Moon
Khloe Kardashian
and Gemini rising Ascendant and Aquarius.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God.
Khloe Kardashian
I know nothing about an Aquarius air sign.
Morgan Stewart
So you have a lot of air in your chart. Aquarius. Both of my kids are Aquarius.
Khloe Kardashian
Aquarius.
Morgan Stewart
People who have Aquarius placements are meant to be famous. Here you are. And Gemini also.
Khloe Kardashian
What do the kids do?
Morgan Stewart
What's the. What's. When Haley did it the other day, I almost killed myself. I was like, oh, icon. What's the Venus? And then I'm done. If it's in Pisces, I'll die. Jessica's a Pisces, but we still hired her.
Khloe Kardashian
Cancer.
Morgan Stewart
It's in Cancer.
Khloe Kardashian
What's the Venus mean?
Morgan Stewart
How you love.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, but cancer. I can see that I would love, like, a cancer.
Morgan Stewart
And how you are with your family and your friends and how nurturing and stuff like that. Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Gets. It's. I wish I was more. Not.
Morgan Stewart
No, embrace it. So many. Few people are like that.
Khloe Kardashian
I have to. But, God, sometimes I'm like, I'll just die for everyone, and no one will die for me. It's crazy. I love how much you know about that, and I just know that's the person you are.
Morgan Stewart
And by the way, I can't believe you're a Gemini moon. I don't know why I've never looked up your sign.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know what this all means,
Morgan Stewart
but we're gonna get a fall. Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Let's talk about motherhood and, like, parenting in la.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, God. In la.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Up, huh?
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. Isn't it?
Morgan Stewart
It's so crazy.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know why I feel like when I've. Maybe I'm not watching the right ones, but I don't think people ask you enough about Motherhood. And I don't know if that's off limits to you.
Morgan Stewart
Not at all. I think what it is, is I don't. I'm not like that mom that's, like, leading with her children. They're around. They're part of my life, obviously, every day, all day. But I'm not like, look how cute my kid is.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
I throw it up naturally. So I think there's some people that, like, aren't even sure if I have kids.
Khloe Kardashian
Stop. I mean, so funny.
Morgan Stewart
Or I don't lead as, like, I get it first. It's the best thing I've ever done. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. They're very close in age.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, they are.
Morgan Stewart
They're very close in age. So I got pregnant two and a half months after I gave birth.
Khloe Kardashian
Crazy.
Morgan Stewart
It was.
Khloe Kardashian
But not intentionally.
Morgan Stewart
Not. It was. We weren't even, like, done and I was pregnant. I was like, what?
Khloe Kardashian
And I love that the gasping in the room said that.
Morgan Stewart
You got to keep that up. I literally got pregnant in May. Both times I found out with my son. June, like, late June. And I just remember, like, I peed on the test. I looked away for a second, and Jordan was like, don't pretend it's positive. Like, you're just tired. We have a newborn baby.
Khloe Kardashian
Right?
Morgan Stewart
And I looked away for a split second. I was on the floor, and I looked back, and I was like, it's. It's positive. He's like, no, bitch, it's not. I was like, no, it is. We took a hundred.
Khloe Kardashian
Stop.
Morgan Stewart
And I remember going to the doctor, and she's like, you're due February 17th. And I was like, no, that's Rose. She's like, no.
Khloe Kardashian
The same day.
Morgan Stewart
So I was like, no, rose the 16th. I think you're confusing. And she was like, no, I was there, so she is.
Khloe Kardashian
No.
Morgan Stewart
And I was like, but I can't have another baby. I had had all these thyroid. And I was in. Literally, I was in Napa in the beginning of June before I had found out my. I found out my thyroid stuff was really effed up. I was pregnant. I didn't know it. And we went to, like.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. As one does.
Morgan Stewart
Was drinking all weekend. I remember feeling like I was withdrawing from meth. I could not sit still. I couldn't. I was so panicked and physically unwell. And finally they were like, oh, you're pregnant. So I had. Ro got pregnant with Gray. I had Ro's first birthday party from 8 to 12. And at 1:30, we checked into the hospital and I gave birth.
Khloe Kardashian
Stop.
Morgan Stewart
To my son at 10 o' clock that night.
Khloe Kardashian
So are they born?
Morgan Stewart
They're one year to the day or one year and a day? Excuse me. Oh, she's the 16th and he is the 17th of February.
Khloe Kardashian
That's like Stormy in air. One's February 1st, one's February 2nd. That's so crazy.
Morgan Stewart
It's crazy. And I feel like myself as of four months ago. Ago.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, well, that's good.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, I took a lot.
Khloe Kardashian
Isn't he three?
Morgan Stewart
He's gonna be four and she's gonna be five.
Khloe Kardashian
Wow.
Morgan Stewart
And I really. I mean, you just can't cheat the body. It was a lot. No, physically, it was so much on me and I, like, I didn't feel well for a long time.
Khloe Kardashian
Do you believe in Peptides?
Morgan Stewart
I. By the way, I'm signing up. I just had so many. Okay. But I had had some blood sugar stuff, so I was worried to start I would be shooting in places I didn't know I had.
Khloe Kardashian
If I could.
Morgan Stewart
I don't want to feel bad, though.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, no. Well, these are so, like, they take your blood and they. So it's personal to you, as I do.
Morgan Stewart
I didn't know that.
Khloe Kardashian
I think Peptides would make you feel better.
Morgan Stewart
I want to feel better and I also want to, like. I don't want to look as. I feel like, I look tired too.
Khloe Kardashian
No, you look beautiful. But it's. I get how you feel.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
I'm exhausted all the time.
Morgan Stewart
All the time.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, and I'll say, like, if I'm not feeling right, I'm like, God, I'm still feeling so tired. And he'll be like, okay, let me up this. Like, he will. He's great. Shout out to Dr. George. I mean, you love this.
Morgan Stewart
You look. You look great.
Khloe Kardashian
So thank you. I'm like, wait, we forgot about the kids and the family. We're talking about our aesthetic.
Morgan Stewart
Our aesthetic. Oh, the kids. I love the kids.
Khloe Kardashian
The children. We love the children.
Morgan Stewart
No, but I will answer your question about parenting in la.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
I'm getting my daughter into kindergarten now.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, my gosh. Big step.
Morgan Stewart
It is crazy.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, my gosh. It is.
Morgan Stewart
No, no, it is. We didn't. We just showed up. Right. Like, our mom just were like, you
Khloe Kardashian
had to do, like, all the essays. Yeah. No, no, no.
Morgan Stewart
First of all, my husband did it. I can't, like, write a grammatically correct sentence. That's crazy.
Khloe Kardashian
Nuts.
Morgan Stewart
Six schools, six interviews, six solo interviews with row, six group interviews with Roe.
Khloe Kardashian
That's insane.
Morgan Stewart
Six different schools, events. It is wild in these streets. So hopefully she gets in. Or she can't live at my house anymore.
Khloe Kardashian
No. Or you're kicked out of everything.
Morgan Stewart
She's gone. But the pressure they put on these little kids in a little cubicle to, like, draw a family, write her name. I'm like, I didn't know how to write my name till I was like, nine.
Khloe Kardashian
Do you do carpool?
Morgan Stewart
Of course. Well, I mean, I bring my kids. I don't have, like, other people in the car. Is that what you mean?
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Just, like, drive them.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, I drive them. I make them dinner. I'm, like, very that way.
Khloe Kardashian
You are.
Morgan Stewart
I am.
Khloe Kardashian
How cute.
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Morgan Stewart
People don't think that about me, but I do make them dinner. I'm very hands on that way. Lunch in the morning. Not every morning, but I really try
Khloe Kardashian
to be like, well, lunch is in the middle of the day.
Morgan Stewart
Well, I'm saying, like, I missed their lunch for this.
Khloe Kardashian
Just kidding. What do you love to cook?
Morgan Stewart
I cook everything. I make. Like, I'll do roasted chicken. I'll make lamb chops. I'll make pasta.
Khloe Kardashian
I love that.
Morgan Stewart
Like, just, like, very, like, easy, but, like, healthy stuff.
Khloe Kardashian
No, but great.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
I know you love to throw a party, and, like, I love the decor.
Morgan Stewart
You need to come to a party.
Khloe Kardashian
We're gonna.
Morgan Stewart
I'm gonna give a lot of warning, a lot of judging, and we're gonna get you to a party.
Khloe Kardashian
Done.
Morgan Stewart
Done.
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Khloe Kardashian
Yes. I love Alexa. Good. Even better.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, but I love.
Khloe Kardashian
See, where is that place that you throw Jordan?
Morgan Stewart
Studio.
Khloe Kardashian
Love it.
Morgan Stewart
So he's like a two story, like, office studio space. And I do all that myself.
Khloe Kardashian
No, I know.
Morgan Stewart
I do all that myself.
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know, but I could tell, like, it's. I. Because you're. I know from the way you're posting it. I. Yeah, I like, you're so proud.
Morgan Stewart
And I'm like, yeah, it takes. I've set that table myself. It is.
Khloe Kardashian
That's really where, like, I get turned on.
Morgan Stewart
I know. Yeah, I know. Like, that's. The forks are straight. I mean, we use the same. I got, like, these Christmas plates, and I use them every single year. But I start with, like, I go and get the tablecloth, and then we do, like, the floral inspo. I mean, it's only like 35 people max.
Khloe Kardashian
But the fact that you know how to. So many people don't know how to do that. Like, my mom taught me how to do that stuff, so I get so turned on when there's Someone else that knows how to do that.
Morgan Stewart
That's, like, a generational thing. Like, so weirdly, so much of your mom reminds me of my mom. And it's like. It's think. I think it's just a time and to know they were, like, around each other in Beverly Hills at that time, like, when it was really fabulous.
Khloe Kardashian
Really.
Morgan Stewart
Now it's a dump.
Khloe Kardashian
It really is.
Morgan Stewart
It's very upsetting.
Khloe Kardashian
It makes me really sad. What's happened to Beverly Hills?
Morgan Stewart
This is a Khloe Kardashian exclusive. We've gotten broken into twice.
Khloe Kardashian
No. Isn't that terrifying?
Morgan Stewart
It was horrific. We were not home, thank God, but they smashed my front door. And then six months later, they smashed my bedroom door. And we had secure. It was. It was awful.
Khloe Kardashian
That is horrible.
Morgan Stewart
Horrible.
Khloe Kardashian
I'm so sorry that happened.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. Thank you. On top of everything, by the way, there was that. I hadn't talked about that, but it was. I was like, oh, really?
Khloe Kardashian
I was like.
Morgan Stewart
Like, are we good on karma? Like, I am filled up. There's been a lot.
Khloe Kardashian
Girl, I have said that same message to the universe. I'm like, listen, I have paid all my dues.
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Khloe Kardashian
Like, we just have.
Morgan Stewart
Why do they keep testing us so much?
Khloe Kardashian
I don't know. I'm like, we're good people. Right?
Morgan Stewart
Right. And also, it's the strength, I think.
Khloe Kardashian
Right. But I. I've proven that.
Morgan Stewart
You're strong.
Khloe Kardashian
We're strong. I get it.
Morgan Stewart
Like, I'm like, we're done. Like, now I need.
Khloe Kardashian
We also can't. We don't even have the freedom to crumble. Whoa.
Morgan Stewart
That was. Are you gonna cut that? That was crazy. The Freedom to Crumble is your book type.
Khloe Kardashian
No.
Morgan Stewart
By Khloe Kardashian. The Freedom to Cry. That was wild. No, no.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, true. Don't.
Morgan Stewart
I have to keep it together for everyone, Even for, like, my friends that, like. And I'm not good with emotions. I feel like you're very good with emotions.
Khloe Kardashian
Well, I don't love them.
Morgan Stewart
I hate them.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, when someone starts crying, crying, I'm like, what do you do with it yourself? But they have. It happens all the time. People love to cry to me, and I appreciate it.
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, I'm someone. I have empathy for that. But my reaction is never going to be what you want it to be. Like, I'm smiling, and someone's like, I'm like this. And I'm like, what do you do in this situation?
Morgan Stewart
I hate it. And I'm not, like, a hugger. Oh, I Am I'm like, a hugger.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, I always say hi to someone,
Morgan Stewart
but if someone's crying in my face, I'm like, oh, no.
Khloe Kardashian
I just don't know what to do.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. I want to talk a lot about what's going on and get angry. I don't want to, like, tend to you being upset.
Khloe Kardashian
Well, and also, everyone reacts differently. Not everyone wants to be hugged when they're crying. So I'm like, what do you need from me in this moment? But you can't ask that question while they're sobbing and their heart is broken. Okay. Speaking about strength, Yes. I do want to talk a little bit about the grief you've been through, because I think it's really helpful for so many other people. I remember when you're dad passed away, you were really public about it, and I think people got to see a side of you that they don't typically see. But you also pulled away. Like, I remember you pulled away from social, and you took time to yourself, and I thought that was really responsible of you.
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
How do you feel now and what got you to this place?
Morgan Stewart
I think, first of all, him dying was totally different than how I expected it. I had always anticipated him dying because he had me at 44. So when I was 16, he was 60. So I was like, he's gonna have a heart attack and die. Because It's. You think 60 when you're 16 is so old right now, it's like, obviously not that old. And so when he got cancer at 78, I was like, what? Like, we've passed that.
Khloe Kardashian
Right.
Morgan Stewart
You get cancer in your 50s and it's unexpected. That's the only thing I had ever really heard about cancer. And then when he was diagnosed with cancer, they were like, oh, he has lymphoma. This is fine. This is treatable. This is the cancer you want to have. And then we went back for a scan after we had managed it with steroids, he did a little. Then they were like, it's spreading. We need to do a little chemo. And then when we went back for the second scan, I thought it was going to be clear no matter what. And they were like, oh, you have a rare blood form of cancer called T cell lymphoma. So it's not like the lymphoma we thought it was. So I had watched him sort of fade away, but as he was fading away, I still did not think he was gonna die.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
And only the last two weeks, it had spread to his brain, and we were, like, gonna Be. He was gonna be put on hospice. And I remember thinking, well, he's still gonna live, like, another few years. And we went to the doctor the last day. He's like, we. There's nothing we can do. We went home, and he died later that night.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, wow.
Morgan Stewart
He was very much like. Like, I'm not doing this anymore. And my mom called me back to the house after I had dropped them off two hours later. And I held his hand as he literally fought for his last breaths for it was, like, 15 minutes. And it was just such a beautiful, intimate way to watch the person you love the most slip away. And I thought it was gonna be more of, like, a jolt to the system, and instead, I just sort of, like, glazed over. And I really felt like a. I felt so close to him in real life, so supported by him, so loved by him, that I still felt that even though he wasn't physically here.
Khloe Kardashian
Right.
Morgan Stewart
So that really, the strength of our relationship in this world has carried me through having him in a different world.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
And I try not to pay too much attention to it, because if I. I do, it's all encompassing. You. You go into a black hole of forever that you can't process as a human being. Right. You're like, this is a person I love. This is my father. And I literally cannot speak to them. So I've really tried to get through it by communicating with him. I talk to him all the time in the car. My psychic has told me so many intimate, personal things that he will tell you memories that no one could know.
Khloe Kardashian
Right.
Morgan Stewart
Signs to look out for that I see on the daily. I just spoke to him two days ago, and I had lunch with some friends, and he literally said something to me through my psychic about what happened at that lunch that no one else knew.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, my gosh.
Morgan Stewart
So I almost feel like I love stuff like that. No, you will be. Really, Isn't it? I mean, he's so unbelievable. But. But carrying our relationship through, even though he's not physically here, has truly gotten me through him not being here.
Khloe Kardashian
And I don't think people do that enough.
Morgan Stewart
No.
Khloe Kardashian
Because I do the same. I talk to my dad all the time. Yeah. I think that's so important. That's what keeps them alive.
Morgan Stewart
Alive.
Khloe Kardashian
Something that makes me so proud. My dad's been gone, like, 22 years or something like that, which is, like, crazy.
Morgan Stewart
Insane.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, it's insane. I'm like, he's been gone longer than I knew him in real life, which is crazy.
Morgan Stewart
Wait, I'm sorry. Let's do that math again. He's been gone longer than he was alive for your life.
Khloe Kardashian
Yes. And, like, it's. It's crazy to me when I think of that, but when I. It's so silly, but I met Dolly Parton, and she was telling me that she knew my dad, and I never knew she knew my dad.
Morgan Stewart
Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
And so being now I'm 41, so my dad's been gone so long, I don't get to hear news stories about him often because I hang out with his same circle of friends that he once knew. And so when she did that, I was like, honestly, I've always loved her. But if anything, like, that made me feel so connected to him and talking about him. And I think it's so important some people would rather, like, not speak of it at all. No, you can't pretend.
Morgan Stewart
You can't.
Khloe Kardashian
That never happens.
Morgan Stewart
You can't pretend because it was such a part of your life. It's ingrained. It's literally a part of your DNA. It's why you're alive. So to just not be able to, like, carry that on, I wouldn't be able to. So, like, a part of me still thinks he's alive sometimes. And then I'm like. Like, what will happen was I'll be in the car and Roll will be like, call Daddy. And then I'll call. I'll go try to call dad. And I'm like, oh, no, this is.
Khloe Kardashian
Jordan's.
Morgan Stewart
Your dad. Dad's not. And then I'm like, oh, that's kind of a burn. But it's still, like. It's nice. It just sort of. It's like Sharon clueless when she's like, I still talk to my mom like she's alive. That was my inspo.
Khloe Kardashian
Okay.
Morgan Stewart
That was my inspo.
Khloe Kardashian
Inspo received.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
No, I do. Like, my. None of our kids have met your dad. Our dad, My dad. But we talk about him so much, and there's photos of him. They all know him. And I think, especially with young kids, I think it's so important to not have them believe he's still here, but to talk about him enough where it's almost as if he's still here.
Morgan Stewart
To them, I think that's so healthy. And I truly believe, going back to, like, the kids thing, I think that's why I had Grace so soon. I think that the universe was like, it's really important to you that your dad meets both kids, and he was there for his first birthday, and then, you know, he was There he met them.
Khloe Kardashian
Right.
Morgan Stewart
And then he left. So I truly believe that's why that worked out that way. But I think it's great to I. They know what he looks like, his pictures are around.
Khloe Kardashian
It's important. I love that. Yeah, it's really important. It really is.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
And does it change your outlook, like on what you choose to spend your time doing what you want to put your energy on?
Morgan Stewart
I wish I could say it's totally changed me and I don't focus on bullshit, but I still get caught up in stuff that's not that important.
Khloe Kardashian
That's okay.
Morgan Stewart
I really do. Like, and I've gone through so much death in such a short amount of time and I still am like, well, why is that crooked? Or why did she say that? And I'm like, girl, right? Get with it.
Khloe Kardashian
Who gives a shit?
Morgan Stewart
But it also makes me feel normal.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
You know, but it's definitely.
Khloe Kardashian
I'm also sure that the people around you appreciate that because they're like, okay, she is there.
Morgan Stewart
She is.
Khloe Kardashian
She's still there.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. And I going back to not the freedom to crumble, which, whoa. Even like the way I save face with my closest friends, like, if I were to start to get wonky, I think it would offset them.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, I agree with that.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Cuz you're the pillar. The pillar.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, we're the pillars.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
Of. You're the pillar of American pop culture. Literally. And I'm the pillar of like my three friends that I've managed to stick around.
Khloe Kardashian
Shut up. I can't. I'm honestly not. Okay. And I imagine you and your mom are closer than ever.
Morgan Stewart
She's around all the time. She lives in Switzerland, like kind of half the year now. She goes all the time. Her mom, my mom, my grandmother's going to be 101.
Khloe Kardashian
Stop.
Morgan Stewart
That bitch doesn't die.
Khloe Kardashian
That is chic.
Morgan Stewart
Chic.
Khloe Kardashian
Honestly, that's crazy.
Morgan Stewart
It's crazy.
Khloe Kardashian
That is crazy. Good for her.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
So she's there. I'm telling you, the cigs and every. It's a different thing.
Morgan Stewart
The martini and the alcohol every day.
Khloe Kardashian
And I'm like, what water bottle is this?
Morgan Stewart
Is it plastic?
Khloe Kardashian
I'm going to die.
Morgan Stewart
No, literally, no.
Khloe Kardashian
It's craz.
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Khloe Kardashian
It is crazy.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. But we have a really good relationship and she's so helpful with my kids. She babysits, you know. It's so nice to have like. Not if you cannot have a nanny around.
Khloe Kardashian
It's.
Morgan Stewart
I mean, nannies are great, but you
Khloe Kardashian
know, my mom doesn't do that.
Morgan Stewart
No, I know, but your mom's fabulous. She's on a yacht. God damn it.
Khloe Kardashian
She is. I can't handle it. She's always like, I give you guys your own job so you can afford nannies. I'm like, you're right.
Morgan Stewart
You're right.
Khloe Kardashian
So you're fine. What is something you used to love that you would never, ever wear now?
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God. I think jean shorts with pantyhose underneath them.
Khloe Kardashian
You used to wear that?
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. Let's not talk about.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, my God. I can't even envision that.
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Morgan Stewart
It was like a sweater. It worked, like, in 2007.
Khloe Kardashian
True.
Morgan Stewart
It just doesn't.
Khloe Kardashian
A lot of things did.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
I have a long list that I could do for myself. What item in your closet do you feel the most sentimental about?
Morgan Stewart
Probably this gold YSL embellished jacket that Jordan surprised me with that I really, really wanted.
Khloe Kardashian
Why? Just for that reason.
Morgan Stewart
I, like, really wanted it. It was Runway. It was, like, very difficult. And he. There was none. And he, like, had it flown from Paris to LA with a manager, like, from the store. And I got it for Christmas. It has, like, mink sleeves. It's like one of those pieces you have for the rest of your life. It goes to your kids. I'm very sentimental about that.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, love. Yeah. What is your design process for wrangly?
Morgan Stewart
I. This is so lame. It's so intuitive. Like, I'm like, this is what we have to do right now. And I definitely want to design pieces that are wearable, pieces that I feel really passionate about and things that, like, you can have for a long time. But I'm really big on color. I'm really big on cut, and most importantly, like, quality. Like, your sweater feels beautiful. Right.
Khloe Kardashian
I write wrangly from literally head to toe. Head to toe.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
And I am a freak about itch.
Morgan Stewart
I know.
Khloe Kardashian
Like a freak. This is such a soft sweater, and I love this. So. Yes.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
And I just knew the quality would be good.
Morgan Stewart
I'm glad, because I. That I don'. Have any room. Right. Like, if it was not going to be good stuff, they're gonna be like, you're not gonna wear that.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
So it was really important. And every single piece we've done, I wear.
Khloe Kardashian
And you do.
Morgan Stewart
And I do.
Khloe Kardashian
H. I love the videos about it. Just love. Love. Okay. Truth or gag.
Morgan Stewart
Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
Low rise jeans.
Morgan Stewart
Gag.
Khloe Kardashian
Curtain bangs.
Morgan Stewart
No one looks good in bangs. Why do people keep doing that? Like, oh, like, I did a clip
Khloe Kardashian
on, but then you have to keep. Keep cutting it.
Morgan Stewart
They're awful.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, the grow out. I couldn't.
Morgan Stewart
Zooey Deschanel is the only bang girl.
Khloe Kardashian
Well, I don't know what she would look like without them.
Morgan Stewart
Right.
Khloe Kardashian
She's her signature now. Yeah. Statement necklaces.
Morgan Stewart
Are they diamonds?
Khloe Kardashian
Took the words out of my mouth.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
If it's not a diamond, forget it. Right.
Morgan Stewart
Forget it.
Khloe Kardashian
Micro shorts. Love ballet flats. Love visible thongs. Like underwear.
Morgan Stewart
If you're like super hot in 25, sure.
Khloe Kardashian
Okay.
Morgan Stewart
I can't do that.
Khloe Kardashian
Me neither. Mob wife aesthetic.
Morgan Stewart
Yes. Especially now. Love a fur. Love it, love it, love it.
Khloe Kardashian
Double denim.
Morgan Stewart
Love it. How shiny are your earrings?
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, I hope really?
Morgan Stewart
Whoa.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, good.
Morgan Stewart
You're paid in those.
Khloe Kardashian
Okay.
Morgan Stewart
I keep. Look, I keep thinking they're heart shaped, but there's just two of them. Wow. Okay.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, I'll go for that.
Morgan Stewart
They're gorgeous. Gorgeous.
Khloe Kardashian
Tiny sunglasses.
Morgan Stewart
Absolutely hate with a serious passion.
Khloe Kardashian
Same hate. I also have, like, a bigger hat. I just love big and like, no one see me. What's the point in wearing them even?
Morgan Stewart
Can I just say Margot Robbie's port, like, press right now. Like, her looks have been so good for withering heights. But she has those tiny sunglasses and I'm like, you.
Khloe Kardashian
I didn't see her in the tiny sunglasses.
Morgan Stewart
She's so gorgeous. Don't do it. You don't need them.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah. And she is so gorge. What's happening?
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Salmon sperm facials. I love when I did salmon sperm. They inject a little, not deep. Okay. Because it's not like filler.
Morgan Stewart
Right, but don't we want to just do filler?
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, but this is like more collagen boosting. It's not supposed to fill, but I just know it makes you, like, glow.
Morgan Stewart
Okay. I just see these trends. We get so on them and then five years later we're like, oh, that was nothing. And this is the new thing.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, yeah, that's probably true as well.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah, I'd rather just do good old fashioned and filler and like plastic surgery. I want to just be like 25. Better looking.
Khloe Kardashian
Oh, you're gorgeous. No, you're busy.
Morgan Stewart
We have lots of things.
Khloe Kardashian
Skinny brows. I can't do it.
Morgan Stewart
I hate it.
Khloe Kardashian
I hate this one. Bleached eyebrows.
Morgan Stewart
I think they look really good on some people.
Khloe Kardashian
Some? I think you look an alien.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Otherwise.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah.
Khloe Kardashian
Faux freckles.
Morgan Stewart
You better have perfect skin if you're doing that. You better not have a goddamn pour in sight if you're painting stupid dots on your face.
Khloe Kardashian
You see, people are like, tattooing.
Morgan Stewart
Yeah. No. Why are they why is everyone so weak? Like, doing dumb like that?
Khloe Kardashian
Well, when you know you're not going to want that, don't they turn colors?
Morgan Stewart
Didn't we make fun of people with freckles until five years ago? Why are we doing that? I don't understand.
Khloe Kardashian
Like, no. No. Clean girl aesthetic.
Morgan Stewart
Yes. If you can, like, pull if you're Haley Bieber.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah, I know.
Morgan Stewart
Like, when you look like you smell good all the time.
Khloe Kardashian
For sure. Oh. What was a pop culture moment you wish you could experience again for the first time?
Morgan Stewart
Coachella.
Khloe Kardashian
Really?
Morgan Stewart
I don't know. I feel like I don't do anything fun anymore. I'm like, is it Coach? No, Coach. I feel like I wish I just went harder at Coachella. What the fuck else am I gonna say? Coachella? Who knows?
Khloe Kardashian
When I leave, someone. Yeah. Oh. Whenever I get put on the spot, when I leave, I think of, like, the most articulate, beautiful answer. I'm like, what, Coachella? What are you most looking forward to in 2026?
Morgan Stewart
I'm most looking forward to feeling good, feeling like myself again. No, but truly feeling centered and feeling organized and, like, prepared and excited to start working again.
Khloe Kardashian
And your podcast.
Morgan Stewart
And my podcast. I can't wait for my podcast. That's what I mean. Like, to start working and sinking my teeth into that.
Khloe Kardashian
Yeah.
Morgan Stewart
I'm very excited for that.
Khloe Kardashian
We're gonna be thirsty and desperate to talk about at the beginning.
Morgan Stewart
And, yes. It's coming March 25th. It's gonna be called. I don't think we've said what it's gonna be called. You're never gonna get guess the name. The Morgan Stewart Show. I know, I know, I know. It would took. It actually took a lot of people to decide that. And we were like, let's just do this. They were like, coming up with names. I was like, no.
Khloe Kardashian
Well, now no one can replace you.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Morgan Stewart
There you go.
Khloe Kardashian
That's why you do it.
Morgan Stewart
That's why you do it. Yeah, that's exactly right. I love it.
Khloe Kardashian
I feel like with the Kardashians, we learned what we were doing. No one can replace us.
Morgan Stewart
Oh, my God. Well, I love you. This was so easy.
Host: Khloé Kardashian
Guest: Morgan Stewart
Date: March 11, 2026
In this lively, candid, and humor-filled episode, Khloé Kardashian welcomes longtime friend and fellow reality star Morgan Stewart. The two dive deep into friendship in adulthood, navigating motherhood in Los Angeles, fashion regrets and wins, and the emotional aftermath of personal losses. The conversation, unfiltered and honest, ranges from light-hearted banter about lighting on podcasts to poignant discussions about grief, resilience, and the pressure to maintain composure in the public eye. The episode also features an exploration of “the freedom to crumble” under pressure, a truth-or-gag fashion lightning round, and Morgan’s excitement for her new podcast venture.
On Low-Maintenance Friendships:
"We're best friends. We don't hang, we don't talk, but we DM. That's my favorite kind of friendship."
— Khloé Kardashian, 03:23
On Motherhood and Doing It All:
“I cook everything. I make... roasted chicken, I’ll make lamb chops, I’ll make pasta. Just, like, easy but healthy stuff.”
— Morgan Stewart, 46:01
On Loss and Resilience:
“We don’t even have the freedom to crumble.”
— Khloé Kardashian, 09:09 & 48:17
“Carrying our relationship through, even though [my dad]’s not physically here, has truly gotten me through him not being here.”
— Morgan Stewart, 52:59
On Getting Older and Prioritizing Peace:
“For me, number one is a calm nervous system. So anything that's going to derail that I don't do well with.”
— Morgan Stewart, 35:49
On Fashion Trends:
“No one looks good in bangs. Why do people keep doing that?”
— Morgan Stewart, 59:24
“If it's not a diamond, forget it.”
— Khloé Kardashian, 59:46
Khloé and Morgan are unfiltered, honest, witty, and self-deprecating. The conversation flows naturally as they balance candid admissions about their struggles with humorous takes on motherhood, fame, and fashion faux pas. There’s genuine support, empathy, and mutual admiration throughout, making this episode both relatable and entertaining.
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