Transcript
Kris Jenner (0:00)
My generation was really the last generation that we had no social media. I remember the Oregon Trail was like the shit. The dial up sound, AOL chat rooms, MySpace, Chatroulette. The dangerous place. I look what you look for to your. Well, I am. I am terrified of AI. The Internet was already scary enough. True's like asmr. How the fuck do you know what ASMR is? No, I'm not AI. I'm not AI. I can't skip. I'm trying to get out of here. When Keeping up premiered, did you gain more control over your image? I didn't know what an image was. How do you balance posting for you versus posting for Chloe the brand? Am I supposed to think like this? I'm also never offended if someone unfollows me. How does one even know that you have podcasts?
Chatroulette User (0:48)
What do you talk about?
Kris Jenner (0:50)
I don't even know. What the hell's mukbangs. Hi you guys. Thank you for joining me on Chloe in Wonderland. I'm so happy to have you guys with me here today. I want to talk about digital life and what I find so interesting and what I get asked a lot about is that my generation was really the last generation that I don't want to say we still had real life because that's unfair to say. But we had no social media, we had no real Internet. Dial up started like I remember when dial up started. I remember when we were given Facebook and MySpace and all of those other platforms which were before Twitter and Instagram and TikTok and all those things. No one will ever know Life without the Internet now, which there's pros and cons to everything. I think it makes me really sad for my kids just because I knew life before any of that and I knew what it meant to be bored. I knew what it meant to have to go make friends with your neighbors. I knew what it meant to call someone's landline and have to speak to their parents and entertain their parents and have the proper conversation. Those things no one has to do anymore. So you almost don't know how to do that kind of stuff. Even making appointments or reservations. You can do all of that online. So those humanly tools that we learned the older we got, kids don't really have to learn that stuff anymore. It's so strange. I also think that's why people fall in love with creations they've made on AI or robots or. I read all these crazy stories that I find outlandish. But I understand how people get there because we now live In a society that it's basically touchless. It can be humanless if you need it to be. Yeah. So basically that's what I want this episode to be about, is talking about what I experienced, what I went through and where we are now. When I was growing up, I didn't have the Internet. We didn't have specifically social media, but the Internet. I remember having a game called the Oregon Trail. And the Oregon Trail on a real computer was like the. And playing that game, I. It was just amazing. And that I would think is like my first memory of really the computer, which is crazy. Hearing the dial up sound. Oof. It's a little traumatizing. Triggering at this point. AOL chat rooms, a legendary place to be being able to talk to your friends through there and you just felt so cool. And there was different chat rooms and for those that don't, I don't know if chat rooms still exist, but I know there used to be chat rooms. Like if you have a fetish, there's a chat room for a fetish. If you are just girls wanting to talk to other girls, like as friends, you can go that way. Or like kids 18 and under, like just to talk. And at this point, I don't believe, and maybe this is me being naive, I don't believe it was like really a sketchy place to go. I felt like at least my experience, like chat rooms were more like silly and like, I can't believe I'm talking to Sarah3721 who lives in Ireland. Like it was just like an experience. Then I remember Facebook came around. I wasn't a big Facebook girl. I was definitely a MySpace girl. My top eight at the time. I mean, the cool thing is it rotated all the time. But definitely the twins, Malik and Khadijah. I had a friend named Megan who was in the top. Like we had a bunch of girlfriends that were in there. Then I'm sure my brother. I don't know if my sisters were, which is messed up, but I don't know. But yes, MySpace was fun. I did love a chat room. I still think I love a chat room. And then I remember Twitter came out and Kim was like, you have to get on Twitter. And I'm like, what is Twitter? And it was just. I couldn't really understand it. But we all got on Twitter and this was before Instagram and then Twitter was the place to be and I used to have Twitter chats and it was so fun to interact with other people. Especially for us. We were newly coming up into filming our show, we were newly doing new projects. I loved using Twitter as almost a focus group for. For so many of our businesses. And at the time, everyone was so much more positive. I don't think people realize you could use these things for negativity or evil at the time. I don't remember experiencing a lot of negativity when social media first came out. I think people were so happy to communicate with one another. And when we did, I remember we, my sisters and I, were writing a book and we were thinking of the title for it, and I remember us tweeting out, like, three different titles, and we let people on Twitter pick the title for the book. We use social media as a focus group, and it was nothing scary. We weren't. It wasn't negative. It was when people were really, like, supportive and rooting for one another. And it was just a different space. Now it's a much scarier space, I will say that you have to navigate through. I also remember my little sisters, Kendall and Kylie. They wanted social media. My mom said, they can get social media as long as Chloe always has your password and she'll be checking. And I remember Kylie said, I don't know if you ever actually checked our social media, but Kendall and I were in such fear that you would. So we were always on our best behavior because I would check the DMs and everything. And I thought, that's really cute that they still remember that. And then next came Instagram. You just posted whatever you wanted to post. Captions weren't really a thing. Aesthetic was not a thing. Lighting was not a thing. No one knew what they were doing. It was just fun. It was like, this is my mood board, everyone. This is what I'm doing. It could be like a Starbucks cup or like a can of something. It was the strangest content we were posting. If you probably went to the beginning of my Instagram page, Lord only knows what it is. It's probably ridiculous. But that was the fun. No one really thought about it, and no one was being judged for it. But then Instagram took a turn that everything had to look perfect. The aesthetic, like the your aesthetic page on your profile page, has to all be cohesive. I don't know when that all happened, but it happened. But I do think it's crazy that the generation under me and beyond will never know life before social media or the Internet. And to me, that's crazy. I feel really lucky that I get to experience both. I love that I have the reference point of life before The Internet. Our show came out before there was real social media. And I remember then we used to use our show to, like, debunk rumors or set the record straight, if you will. We had our show and that was our platform, and that's how we gave our side of the story or whatnot. Then Twitter came around, and then we used Twitter as a similar tool. If we wanted to fight with someone, yell at someone, set the record straight. Like I said, use it as a focus group, get people's opinions. We used Twitter, and it was an incredible marketing tool. It also was a place that you weren't afraid to say the way you felt you didn't have to worry about. Cancel culture and let me overthink every last thing I say and am I offending this person or that brand or whatever now? It's definitely not the same. You have to overthink everything, and everything has to be PC and wrapped up in a bow and you can't have your thoughts.