Valentine's Day, But Make it Messy ft. Nat & Liv

Summary

Khloé in Wonder Land: Episode Summary - "Valentine's Day, But Make it Messy ft. Nat & Liv"

Release Date: February 13, 2025

In this engaging and candid episode of Khloé in Wonder Land, host Khloé Kardashian sits down with her close friends Nat and Liv to delve into the messy and humorous aspects of Valentine's Day and dating. The conversation is rich with personal anecdotes, relatable challenges, and heartfelt insights, making it a must-listen for anyone navigating the complexities of modern relationships.

1. Misconceptions About Their Social Lives

The episode kicks off with Khloé addressing common misconceptions about her and her friends being perpetual party-goers.

Khloé (00:35): "I think the misconception is that people probably think that we drink all the time."

Nat counters this by highlighting their evolution from "party girls" in their youth to more balanced personalities:

Natalie (01:19): "I think people think we're all party girls. Which maybe we were when we were younger."

Khloé adds a playful twist, describing themselves as "omniverts," thriving both at home and when socializing:

Khloé (01:42): "We're sober. Not doing a thing. Just living our lives, watching TV, who knows? And then when we're out, we are the energy, we are the reason why."

2. Celebrating Friendships and Milestones

The trio reminisces about memorable nights, including Khloé's milestone 40th birthday, emphasizing the importance of supportive friendships.

Natalie (02:35): "The funnest night I think of my life... it's a testament to who you are and the energy you bring."

Khloé appreciates the effort and dedication her friends put into celebrating her, reflecting on the joy and authenticity of these gatherings.

3. Worst Date Stories: Farts and Bedwetting

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to sharing their most disastrous dating experiences, bringing humor and relatability to the forefront.

Khloé’s Fart-Filled Date

Khloé recounts an unforgettable date where her suitor's nervousness led to an untimely fart, disrupting what was supposed to be an intimate moment.

Chloe (14:02): "I was like, I’m going to die. And I’m lying there... how do I react?"

The conversation highlights the awkwardness and real-time decision-making in such situations.

Liv’s Bedwetting Predicament

Liv shares a more personal and embarrassing moment involving a partner who repeatedly wet the bed, raising concerns about his maturity and responsibility.

Chloe (17:58): "He wet the bed. No, but, like, just wet the bed. And I was like, okay, that's weird... Adults."

This story delves into the importance of addressing such issues early in a relationship and recognizing red flags.

4. Canadian vs. American Men

The discussion shifts to cultural differences between Canadian and American men, with insights on politeness and societal upbringing.

Olivia (08:10): "Canadian people are different than, like, American people. Just raised different... kinder, nicer feel."

Natalie adds her perspective, drawing from their experiences:

Natalie (09:16): "We've dated American men. Let me tell you, they don’t always hold doors or show the same level of politeness."

The friends agree that Canadian men generally exhibit a more considerate demeanor, which influences their dating preferences.

5. Navigating Social Media and Dating Apps

Khloé, Nat, and Liv discuss the challenges of modern dating through social media and dating apps, emphasizing the pitfalls of superficial interactions.

Chloe (24:51): "I have not looked at my DMs in like, years. And when I do, I'm like, disappointed."

Natalie shares her struggles with dating apps, expressing a desire for more genuine connections:

Natalie (27:20): "I have tried a dating app and it's not... it's whatever. I'm open, but I don't love the dating app so far."

They critique the lack of substance in many online interactions and stress the importance of meaningful communication.

6. The Importance of a Supportive Village

Towards the end of the episode, the conversation turns heartfelt as the friends acknowledge the crucial role their support system plays in their lives.

Chloe (30:09): "It takes a village... we have that outlet where we can vent about our kids or relationships."

Natalie underscores the value of their friendship, highlighting how they help each other navigate personal and professional challenges.

Natalie (30:21): "We all need that circle where you can vent. It doesn't have to just be a man... it has to just be a relationship."

7. Closing Thoughts and Appreciation

The episode wraps up with expressions of love and gratitude among the friends, reinforcing the strength of their bond.

Chloe (31:09): "I love you guys and thank you for doing Chloe in Wonderland with me."

Natalie adds a heartfelt note on the impact of their friendship:

Natalie (31:18): "I cherish you and our friendship. You guys are really, really amazing."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Khloé on Party Girl Misconception (01:19): "I think people think we're all party girls. Which maybe we were when we were younger."
• Liv on Farting Incident (14:13): "I don't want to hear this... It sucks because... How you come and approach is so whack."
• Natalie on Canadian Men (08:12): "Men are just raised to be a bit kinder, a bit more polite, a bit more old school."
• Chloe on Dating Apps (27:20): "I have never, ever dated someone that I've met organically. Everything through a friend."

Conclusion

"Valentine's Day, But Make it Messy ft. Nat & Liv" is a blend of humor, vulnerability, and genuine connection. Khloé Kardashian and her friends offer listeners an unfiltered look into the ups and downs of dating, the nuances of cultural differences, and the irreplaceable value of friendship. Through their stories and reflections, the episode provides both entertainment and insightful takeaways for anyone navigating love and relationships in today's world.

Transcript

[Chloe]

Yes, Daddy. Put it right in my face. I think Liv's needs to be up higher because she's going to be going.

[Natalie]

Down, down in a while.

[Olivia]

You might say the first time ever we're having sex. Okay. Out of nowhere, he farts. Okay. What? Instant. Like, we're track.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Chloe]

Like, no, I'm gonna die.

[Natalie]

So I dated this one guy, bless him, he kind of had a little bit lower hangers, so.

[Olivia]

With the sock. You know it. It's the sack club.

[Natalie]

So that's what our family is like.

[Chloe]

I love. I love that. Welcome to Chloe in Wonderland. This is the podcast for real and raw conversations that you won't want to miss. We've been drinking. I think Natalie's at capacity. Shut up. Film her. Hey. So first off, we've been drinking, and I think what. What I would think the misconception is that people probably think that we drink all the time.

[Natalie]

I think people think we're all party girls.

[Chloe]

Yes.

[Natalie]

Which maybe we were when we were younger.

[Chloe]

We were.

[Natalie]

We were.

[Chloe]

And I'm proud of that. But I left the house since, I think Halloween.

[Natalie]

No. And we're all literally twins. I think introverted extroverts is how we describe ourselves. And that means that we don't leave.

[Olivia]

The house, but when we do, when we do, we are the life of the party.

[Chloe]

And we are. There's. I think it's called, and maybe we'll have to look it up, an omnivert. Because when we're home, we're home and we're happy and we are not bored. We're sober.

[Olivia]

Sober.

[Chloe]

Not doing a thing. Just living our lives, watching tv, who knows? And then when we're out, we are the energy, we are the reason why.

[Natalie]

But that's give you an exhibit A, and I don't think it's came out on your show. Exhibit A, because I don't know when this is airing, but, you guys, this is.

[Chloe]

This show is airing, I think Valentine's Day week.

[Natalie]

And I think you're a show, but I don't know the episode I have to say, and I don't know what camera I'm on, But Chloe's birthday, 40th birthday. I need to take a moment and say to camera, the funnest night I think of my life. And that's a testament, though, to who you are and such a great person and friend and energy you. You bring to everyone. It was the funnest party, and that was an extrovert night.

[Chloe]

You know, normally you can go to a party and then you're like, I had so much fun. And then other people are like, yeah, you know, whatever.

[Olivia]

Like, across the board.

[Chloe]

Across the board, everyone was thriving and had the best time.

[Natalie]

Here's the example. At our age, now you're. Because, you know, you girls are moms. People have families, husbands, wives, whatever.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

You're not going to always get someone who's ready to go full tilt. Everyone was ready to go. Showed up with everyone begging again, it tests everybody. You, Everyone wanted to celebrate you and just, like, have the best time.

[Chloe]

But I also think being older, you realize how much effort it takes to go out to get dressed, to book a nanny, or just honestly totally get yourself ready to go out if you don't have kids. You're like, I appreciate the commitment and dedication it takes for people to do that and then for everyone not only to do that, but to show up and be like, tomorrow, I don't care how I am. We're going falls to the walls. And we all did.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Chloe]

That made me happy.

[Natalie]

Yeah. So whenever that episode airs, I don't know how much you guys show on your show, but.

[Chloe]

No, I watched it. We're safe.

[Natalie]

One of the best nights.

[Chloe]

We're all safe.

[Natalie]

Just.

[Chloe]

We all look amazing. But it. I mean, it. It looks what it was. It was so much fun just without the slob kebab at the end because we. I was like, you got to go home.

[Olivia]

We got to the text message afterwards from everybody was like, the text message. Epic night.

[Chloe]

Do you not remember those hourong phone calls afterwards? Oh, yes. Oh, my God.

[Natalie]

Oh, yes.

[Chloe]

That was the end was the drums was amazing. It made the night, like, talked about. It was amazing. So I don't know what you guys think, but my top questions about you guys are, how did we meet? And people do not know what your voices sound like. A lot of people are like, they see you on Instagram and they're always like, why don't they film more videos?

[Olivia]

Cause it's just too much work.

[Natalie]

No, I think it's a millennial thing. We just are on the cusp of, like, I know we have to do video for content and all that, but it's just a little hard to grab a phone and be like, hey, guys.

[Olivia]

No, I feel like it's like cringe thing. Like, I feel like maybe I'm judging, like, Gen Z, but I feel like it's when I watch Gen Z, like, man, like, dance.

[Natalie]

I don't do it great.

[Chloe]

I know.

[Olivia]

I know. But I'm being honest. It's like, like, but I Rather not. I'd skip it. Like.

[Natalie]

Like when we were on our TV shows. That's more our vibe. Like a camera's just there. Yeah.

[Chloe]

Just casually talking.

[Olivia]

It's not as performative. It's like, let me plan this out and execute. Why I see or again introvert thing.

[Natalie]

I'm not really going to be like, okay. I'm like at home. Hey guys. Like I'm.

[Chloe]

I can't do a day in the. I wish I could. I just. I feel so weird.

[Natalie]

I do love watching it, but. Yeah, that is a funny take. And. And a great observation. Cuz we don't do a lot of video on social or not video.

[Chloe]

That where you guys are talking, right?

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Chloe]

Do you guys remember how we met? Cuz I think I do.

[Natalie]

I don't. I know.

[Chloe]

Okay. I want to see if it's the same story.

[Natalie]

When we all went on a hike at Kim's.

[Chloe]

Yes.

[Natalie]

We went to Kim's hill's house.

[Chloe]

And we walked to Kylie's.

[Natalie]

And we walked to Kylie's up the hill. Yeah. That was our first meeting.

[Chloe]

And so Natalie has a daughter.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Chloe]

And Kim and I have daughters. Kids. And so Natalie's daughter, her name is Dove. She is friends with all of our kids. And our kids also have this bond circle, which is amazing. So we have these little bubbles all over the place and they all go to the same school and they all get to hang out. And so we're all so intertwined that we like, we'll see each other at school and be like, hey, what's up? And like that's sort of our check in and like from across the field. And we're like, hey, Nat. Liv.

[Natalie]

Yes.

[Chloe]

And then we're like, good. Like we feel recharged.

[Natalie]

Totally.

[Chloe]

But where? So tell everyone where you guys are from.

[Natalie]

Natalie and I are cousins.

[Chloe]

Yes.

[Natalie]

As you know, cousins.

[Chloe]

Because you know, a lot of people think you guys are sisters.

[Olivia]

They do. Oh, I know that.

[Natalie]

No. So our moms are sisters, Julia and Rhonda. Shout out.

[Chloe]

Shout out to Julian.

[Natalie]

Rhonda. And yeah, we obviously grew up together.

[Chloe]

And wait. What's crazy is Natalie looks identical to. To Liv's mom.

[Natalie]

It's insane. Like no one says it.

[Chloe]

No, no, I. It's.

[Natalie]

I know, I know. Kim told me you saw twins.

[Chloe]

No, I saw her at preschool.

[Natalie]

I was like, oh.

[Chloe]

I go, are you Nat's mom? She's like, I'm her aunt. I was like, you're freaking me out right now. So.

[Natalie]

I know, I know. It's. It's actually pretty Jeans are wild.

[Chloe]

Jeans are weird. Yeah, they're cousins.

[Natalie]

Yeah, we're cousins. Our moms are sisters, obviously. We grew up together. Like, we were siblings and then we're from Vancouver, Canada. We moved here about 10 years ago now to almost the date. It was February 7, 2015.

[Olivia]

Oh, my gosh.

[Chloe]

That's crazy.

[Natalie]

So almost date. I recently became Nobody cares. An American citizen. No. For real, though?

[Chloe]

No, I love it. It's a major accomplishment. So are you dual citizenship?

[Natalie]

Yes. So I kept my Canadian.

[Chloe]

That's a plus.

[Natalie]

We are west coast girls. We love being Canadian, but we love being here with you.

[Chloe]

Do you notice a difference? Because not from just where you're from, because I know it's a small town, but do you think Canadian men are different than American men?

[Natalie]

Yes.

[Chloe]

Yes.

[Olivia]

100.

[Chloe]

I mean, bad or good?

[Olivia]

I feel like, just in general, Canadian people are different than, like, American people. And that goes to say for just like general politeness and like, well, you're just raised different. Just raised different. And it sucks because, like, I feel like the only good American people we've met has been you guys.

[Chloe]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

I swear to God, I swear.

[Chloe]

But everyone says Canadians are much nicer.

[Olivia]

They are. Just in general, it's just like, kinder, nicer feel. Like, I think when you go to the grocery store. Right. Like on average. The average.

[Natalie]

When you hold open a door for someone to say thank you. Thank you. They don't. I want to say.

[Olivia]

Or they don't even hold the door for you. Yeah. You know, it's very like a dog eat world situation here. Right. Where like every man. It's like a community feel and just like more kinder. And so that does bleed into the dating situation. Like, I feel like men are just raised to be a bit kinder, a bit more polite, a bit more old school.

[Natalie]

We've dated as American men.

[Olivia]

Where are we going for the American. No, but I. But funny enough, I do still look for those qualities in an American man.

[Natalie]

One quick thing as you're saying that I've noticed with American men that kills me is because I've served and Natalie has as well. We've been waitresses before in our past life is I feel like a lot of American men don't look at the servers and say, they say, let me get it.

[Olivia]

Let me get.

[Natalie]

For me, especially being a server, not not only just be nice to a human, but just like, you know, hi, May, please have.

[Chloe]

I agree. And Tristan was always like, hi. He would look people in their eyes. I love eye contact. Can you name, like, what? You don't have to name the person, but, like, what would. What is the best date you've ever been on versus Natalie? I can't even look at you because I already know. Versus what is the worst date you've ever been on?

[Natalie]

Wait, can I have one?

[Chloe]

Have as many sips as you need to get these stories out. But honestly, the Worst Date episodes are wild.

[Natalie]

Okay, so we're talking about actual dates.

[Olivia]

Okay, first of all, yes, we are.

[Natalie]

Well, I'm not much. Okay, first of all, I don't think any of us are.

[Olivia]

We're not. Like, none of us.

[Natalie]

It's like we've met through someone or they've, like, slid into our date.

[Olivia]

First date.

[Chloe]

What is it?

[Olivia]

Burgers.

[Chloe]

Oh, yes.

[Olivia]

Crying in a corner. Burgers.

[Chloe]

That was.

[Olivia]

No names.

[Chloe]

No names. But the hottest guts.

[Natalie]

So, so gorgeous.

[Chloe]

So I'll tell you.

[Natalie]

So hot. He might need another chance.

[Chloe]

He might need another chance.

[Olivia]

No matter how pathetic the actions are, I feel like he needs a redemption.

[Chloe]

So hot. Okay, so I'll tell you my worst. The worst date I've ever been on. I don't know if it's a date or, like, a weekend.

[Natalie]

I mean, whatever, because we don't really, like, go out to the restaurant pick. Right.

[Olivia]

Yeah, we don't.

[Natalie]

You know, especially you. You're not.

[Chloe]

So this guy.

[Natalie]

This is a date for you.

[Chloe]

Randomly met this guy in an elevator. Meet this guy. And I'm just being me. So I'm like, being super flirty.

[Natalie]

This part's like, off a movie, you guys.

[Chloe]

I'm like, hey, what's your name? Like, just find amazing meets in an elevator. He's like, hey, I'm actually staying on your floor, yada, yada. I'm like, okay, whatever. We end up getting in touch with one another. We don't really hang out this trip. He's like, hey, I'm gonna be in. I would love to hang out with you. Cool. We were in at the same time.

[Natalie]

I hate to hear this.

[Chloe]

Kim and I, we go. We're in. So hot. We're in. I don't know if he was belligerently drunk or on something else, but we were like, let's go meet at this suite upstairs so we can sit and talk. And this person is now hysterically crying over a cheeseburger and crying because I'm such a nice person. And clearly this is. These are not normal emotions because we have not done anything yet, and we can't even have a chat. And I just remember being like, how do I Get out of this place. Place. I have a grown man who's crying over a cheeseburger saying how great I am.

[Natalie]

But we don't know.

[Chloe]

I was planning on like making out with you tonight and it's now not happening. Let's have a smooch. I am dying to. And it couldn't happen. And I couldn't.

[Natalie]

So wait, how did you get out again?

[Chloe]

Did I remember. I remember saying oh my gosh. I. Our flight is in a couple hours. I have to leave. And I ran to Kim's floor and I was like, I got to get out. And Kim and Kylie were in the other floor and I was like I got to get out of here. And they were like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm hiding until it's time till he leaves. Because I could not handle it. And I don't know if he was on drugs. Either way, if you're on drugs, it's a red flag. I don't want to be with you if you're on drugs.

[Olivia]

But he was so hot, so.

[Chloe]

And I would probably want to hook up with you. Like if you weren't crying and you were still on drugs. I probably hook up with you crying.

[Natalie]

We may have left this slide just.

[Chloe]

Cuz you're so hot. But you can't cry over a cheeseburger and expect me to be horny after that.

[Olivia]

I just want to know what his game plan was. Like he came in with a like.

[Natalie]

Utterly drugs and chats with Chloe. You blew it, you guys.

[Chloe]

The sobbing over a burger and fries was wild.

[Olivia]

He like overshot and he was really nervous.

[Natalie]

Probably was nervous.

[Olivia]

He was nervous.

[Chloe]

Well, that was my worst date. So what was your worst date?

[Olivia]

Dang. I don't really go on dates.

[Chloe]

Mine wasn't like a date.

[Olivia]

Whatever you want. Okay, so I don't do dates at all.

[Chloe]

Okay.

[Olivia]

What was your worst situation? So here's the thing.

[Chloe]

So cuz I can say it for you.

[Olivia]

So I know I don't really do dates like at all. Which I probably should. I should start doing those. But I don't.

[Chloe]

We all should.

[Olivia]

But someone that ended up being like someone that I dated, we're having sex. Okay. He like looks at me and I'm like, yeah, like whatever. Okay. Then out of nowhere he startles himself. Startles? He farts. Okay. What? And like he like gets so nervous and he like farted and got so nervous.

[Chloe]

Wait, I don't know this.

[Olivia]

No, I know I haven't told you guys cuz it's that embarrassing.

[Natalie]

I Know it.

[Olivia]

So it's a fart and like instant, like retract of like the moment. Like, yeah, like, like I'm going to die and I'm lying there. Like, how do I react? Yeah, like, no problem, babe.

[Natalie]

No, didn't he say like, sorry, which was maybe worse. Wait, he addressed the fart. He addressed the fart. You can't address.

[Olivia]

Acknowledge it.

[Natalie]

Keep going.

[Olivia]

Like, for me, I'm like, you don't.

[Chloe]

You guys. That is.

[Natalie]

Yeah, so.

[Olivia]

And he did like a, like a suck up noise.

[Chloe]

The noise.

[Olivia]

Like, no, it didn't help. And I was like, look. And you're like locked eyes. And you're like, yeah, there's no way to go back from there.

[Chloe]

No, you're not going back. That is so disgusting. Disgusting.

[Olivia]

He farted and. Yeah, to just like, like sit there and bear it.

[Natalie]

I mean, it wasn't a good look. First spook. It wasn't. I mean, we've, you know, and.

[Chloe]

But no, but that's sick.

[Olivia]

It's sick.

[Chloe]

That is nasty.

[Olivia]

And then I was like, do I acknowledge, like, do I verbally say like, like, no? Or do you just like casually be.

[Natalie]

Like, no, he shouldn't have addressed you. Keep going. That's it.

[Chloe]

Do you guys want a drink?

[Natalie]

Yeah, let's have a Subaru.

[Kim]

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[Chloe]

Chloe Zocdoc.com Chloe I was dating someone. I can't remember if we were intimate or not. At this point, I'm assuming we were. I don't know, but I'm assuming. And he slept over and he wet the bed. No, but, like, just wet the bed. And I was like, okay, that's weird, obviously, because we're adults. This is weird. 20 and older. Okay, yeah, Adults.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Chloe]

And then I remember, I was like, he was never addressed it. Like, we never talked about it. I was like, okay, maybe this didn't happen because, like, we didn't party or. No, I don't think we were like, maybe drinking, but we weren't like, blackout. Belligerently drunk.

[Natalie]

It's worse than the fart.

[Chloe]

When I tell you what this is, later, you guys are just gonna die. And then I remember the second time he slept over, he did it again.

[Natalie]

And I remember telling Kim.

[Chloe]

And I remember telling Kim. I was like, oh, no, he's peeing the bed like he's aing child.

[Olivia]

I don't want to hear this.

[Chloe]

And, yeah, so he was a PE Boy.

[Olivia]

Kay.

[Chloe]

We don't need PE Boys.

[Olivia]

I need to know.

[Natalie]

Yeah, you got to tell us what's going on.

[Chloe]

Snorting the prettiest girl is, like, the biggest snorter on the planet. It's wild.

[Natalie]

Snort.

[Olivia]

Okay. Sorry.

[Chloe]

No, don't. Don't be.

[Olivia]

But I do.

[Chloe]

Oh, I'll tell you later. Okay. Live. You're.

[Natalie]

Okay. Okay. I've been thinking because.

[Chloe]

Come on.

[Natalie]

Well, it's not really a dating situation.

[Olivia]

Not a pedder.

[Natalie]

Oh, I gotter. Because we read a song of it. Oh, Joel was on the piano.

[Olivia]

Oh, my brother.

[Natalie]

Yes. Okay, so I guess we're not really talking about dating. Stitches. But now we're getting into the. The intimate.

[Chloe]

Weird intimate situation.

[Natalie]

So this one guy years ago. No, we've already gone through fart and Pete. There's only one thing left.

[Olivia]

What is it?

[Chloe]

Yeah, what does that mean?

[Olivia]

Oh, the sack. Clap Wait, we've never talked with the sackclop with Chloe.

[Chloe]

I'm telling you.

[Olivia]

Sackclop.

[Chloe]

Sack Chloe.

[Natalie]

You know, let me explain.

[Chloe]

Wait. Spell it.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[Olivia]

Know what a sackcloth is?

[Natalie]

She will know. And so will the woman viewers. So I dated this one guy. We got to the point.

[Chloe]

This is a usable episode, by the way.

[Natalie]

Is it?

[Chloe]

Okay, okay.

[Natalie]

We got to the point of intimacy. We're dating. We're fully a thing. Whatever. So anyways, bless him, he kind of had a little bit lower hangersacks. Hacky sacks.

[Chloe]

Good old hacky sacks.

[Natalie]

So, you know, whatever.

[Chloe]

Kick those balls.

[Natalie]

And I told my friends, and, like, it's quite the.

[Chloe]

The hacky sack.

[Natalie]

Quite the hacky.

[Olivia]

When you get hit with the sack, you know, it's. So we call it the sack clap.

[Natalie]

And our brothers. We have. One of my brothers is gay. I have three brothers. One of them's gay, and her brother Joel is gay. So we naturally talk to them about our sex lives, whatever, you know? And they're men, so we tell them about the sackclop. And then this is this whole thing. And my cousin Joel gets on the piano.

[Olivia]

He's very musical. He's musical.

[Natalie]

He gives a chord or whatever.

[Olivia]

It's a sack club.

[Natalie]

It's a sack club. It's a sack club. So that's what our family is like.

[Chloe]

I love.

[Natalie]

I love that we tell each other about our sex capades and make songs.

[Chloe]

I gotta call Cam.

[Kim]

Oh, wait.

[Olivia]

Don't we be like, hey, she took.

[Chloe]

Hey, Kimberly. Kimberly, it's Natalie. Natalie, Olivia and Chloe. We're on the pod.

[Natalie]

We're in Chloe in Wonderland. Where are you?

[Chloe]

But we're very drunk.

[Natalie]

What?

[Chloe]

We. I had. Don't say. Afternoon.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Natalie]

You know, this is our only time. We live.

[Chloe]

We drink all day. We were talking about our worst dating experiences. Remember peaboy who peed the bed? You don't have to say names in the townhouse. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. I was telling them this story, and, like, nobody believes that someone pees the bed as an adult more than once. Well, I think if it was, like, very drunk. I don't.

[Natalie]

More than once.

[Chloe]

And also, it happened. Had to be. Well, we. We hope so. Had to be. Olivia had a hacky sack moment where the balls just hacky sacked against her.

[Natalie]

Vajin.

[Chloe]

Vajin.

[Olivia]

Or something.

[Chloe]

I don't know. We're a little drunk. I don't know what's happening.

[Olivia]

We don't know what's going here.

[Chloe]

Well, we're not.

[Natalie]

Well, next up, you're joining us Financial Meetings.

[Chloe]

Oh, well, Doctor.

[Natalie]

Sorry, Governor.

[Chloe]

Sorry, doctor.

[Natalie]

We'll let you be.

[Chloe]

We will make. Take this legal jargon elsewhere, Balzac, but I'm very jealous.

[Natalie]

It sounds like I just got.

[Chloe]

Someone walked in the room and said.

[Natalie]

Chloe says you need to call her back immediately.

[Chloe]

Oh my God.

[Natalie]

Oh, well, we do miss you.

[Chloe]

We apologize for the misinformation on such a professional meeting that you're having. I literally am in a room like.

[Natalie]

Fold deal with people.

[Olivia]

Oh my God.

[Natalie]

Oh, well, I hope very lucrative for.

[Chloe]

Your deep pockets, my darling.

[Olivia]

We're sorry, my darling.

[Chloe]

Okay, we're waiting for. For Natalie to talk about the micros, but she hasn't given us that.

[Natalie]

She hasn't given us that tea.

[Chloe]

But later she will. I'm going to give her some more shots. It smells so bad. For them. Everyone. For them. She pluralized it. Kim, you're outing us one by one.

[Olivia]

She knows.

[Chloe]

No, just. I'm saying for people.

[Natalie]

Never mind. No, you're right.

[Chloe]

For the micro community. They are a community.

[Olivia]

We love you.

[Natalie]

No, you actually love you, but you actually can.

[Chloe]

If anyone wants to donate, please swipe up to Chloe in Wonderland.

[Natalie]

Yes, I don't shame.

[Chloe]

No, we.

[Olivia]

We don't either.

[Chloe]

You don't, but you don't shame. Okay, bye.

[Natalie]

Love you. Bye. She's like, literally probably.

[Chloe]

She's like, literally with like President Trump and she's like slapping the wall. I'm sorry, but the hacky sack. We need to affiliate another member of the hockey sack community. Do you guys look at your DMs for dating?

[Olivia]

I don't.

[Chloe]

Me neither.

[Olivia]

I gotta honestly say I have not looked at my DMs in like, years. And when I do, I'm like, disappointed. Disappointed. And like, I know there's like a lot of people in there, but like, they just like. I'm like, like how they come and like, approach you is like so whack that you're like, it's.

[Chloe]

Ugh.

[Natalie]

Agreed. What would we want them to say? Is it just because we're not attracted to them and what they say?

[Olivia]

No, I honestly, I feel like if they said, hi, like, I think you're.

[Chloe]

Pretty as opposed to yo, you want to.

[Natalie]

Or just like, I can't do an emoji because they're like, testing the water.

[Chloe]

Because they don't want. They don't want to be screenshot or whatever.

[Olivia]

Something of substance. Like, hey, like, I see that you're into this. Or like, hey, like anything normal. I think, like, I think though, if.

[Natalie]

You have a hottie, it doesn't really matter what they say.

[Chloe]

What if the guy was hot?

[Natalie]

If he was.

[Olivia]

No, no, no.

[Natalie]

If burger boy slid in with emotion.

[Chloe]

I do agree.

[Natalie]

If it was burger boy, I'd be like. I would be like, hard eyes back. I'd be like, what's up?

[Chloe]

I would actually do hard eyes.

[Olivia]

But Olivia and I have had dms. The amount of times me and Olivia, DMS from the same person that didn't.

[Natalie]

Do their research that they did not literally research family.

[Olivia]

And they send us the exact same thing. Or like, I'm like, you guys, are you on crack?

[Natalie]

Sends to my sister Sophia as well.

[Chloe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Natalie]

It goes.

[Chloe]

So I will say if Kim gets a dm, we'll say, did you get the same one? And we check. Normally we do. I'm like, do you not think sisters are checking? Or you don't. How many times have we gotten the same dms and we all check. These people are.

[Natalie]

Man, you guys are. Pick one and shoot your shot.

[Olivia]

You can't go through the roof. Shoot the net really wide.

[Natalie]

It's insane.

[Chloe]

Idiots.

[Natalie]

Again, I think it goes back to the point I said earlier is depending upon how he looks, he gets a pass on certain things. I'm sorry, but that's one of the first things you notice. But obviously, I think organically is the best. If you literally just meet him out, that's a little hard because especially us three don't really go out much.

[Chloe]

I have never, ever dated someone that I've met. Organic, social.

[Natalie]

Oh, really? So it's been all organic.

[Chloe]

Everything through a friend. Organic through a friend.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[Chloe]

And if they've reached out to me socially, but I've been introduced because of a friend. I've never.

[Natalie]

Like that.

[Chloe]

I've never met someone just straight up dm. Correct. Yeah, Never that. Have you?

[Natalie]

I have.

[Chloe]

Okay. Have you?

[Natalie]

I don't think you have.

[Olivia]

No, never.

[Chloe]

Yeah, she's asleep. No, never.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I have. Well, speaking of different types of way meeting, I have been on Raya. It's a dating app and it's not so successful.

[Chloe]

Oh, it's not? I thought it was more successful than the rest.

[Natalie]

I think I. I'm the type where, look, when people say, it always grinds my gears when people are like, oh, la is the worst for dating people. Or Miami's, where I feel like the outlook should be like, you can meet him anywhere. I could turn around tomorrow, literally, and meet him. So to put down the city you're in, or put down an app or put down a dm, I just think it's putting out to the universe that you're not gonna accept it. So I'm not gonna put down anything or any avenue. But that being said, I've tried a dating app and it's not eh, it's whatever. I'm. I might. I think I'll probably go off soon just to switch it up. So I don't exclude anything because I just think you're closing yourself off. But that being said. Yeah, so far it's eh. I don't know. We'll see. I'm open. But I don't love the dating app so far.

[Chloe]

Any guidelines for you?

[Natalie]

You've been out of the market for a minute.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Raising your daughter, focused on that. I don't think you've really branched out like at all, to be honest. I don't think you've opened yourself up at all. And the last four or five years.

[Chloe]

I know.

[Natalie]

I feel like you haven't either. No.

[Chloe]

Yeah, I haven't.

[Natalie]

You girls are just focusing on your.

[Chloe]

Kids and like, don't talk to me.

[Natalie]

Yeah, yeah. No. And that's. That's great. I. That's amazing. I. I want to be at that side. That's why I say when you guys, you guys have your kids, it's great. I know you want to find love and a partner and all that stuff, but like, at least you have your wonderful babies that want to find love so much.

[Chloe]

And you, you are the best auntie to them. But I want to find it, but I'm not desperate to find it.

[Natalie]

Yes.

[Chloe]

You know, like when I do, I do.

[Natalie]

Neither of you. It is what it is. I don't feel that at all. Yeah, both of your content, that's the beauty. And you girls, I have to say, as your best friends, amazing mothers. Honest, honestly, I know people say that and I'm not being biased. They honestly had to look a camera for that. They are the most amazing mothers. I. I look up to you. I've learned from you. I feel like when it's my time, I will have the best teachers or questions or whatever. You guys are really, really amazing.

[Chloe]

It takes a village, I think in anything in relationships and family. And if it wasn't for you girls, like just even the ability to talk about people when you need to talk about.

[Natalie]

We all need to.

[Chloe]

We have that outlet. Well, even we need to vent about our kids or like, oh my gosh, this happened or my sister did this. It could be any relationship. You need that circle where you can event to. It doesn't have to just be a man. It has to just be a relationship. And I think if we didn't have that village, it would be really hard, you guys saying that, how you guys are foreigners. And if it's not for you two being together, what would you guys have? And like, that we found each other. It's so good that we've all found each other because if you guys weren't there, like, what would we'd be a party of five? Like, that's crazy to think about. Like, we need you guys. So we all play such a factor in role in each other's lives, and I don't think we would really survive if we didn't have each other.

[Olivia]

So.

[Chloe]

I love you guys.

[Natalie]

I love you too, so much. I really do. Honestly, I cherish you and our friendship and. Yeah, now we're getting sappy.

[Chloe]

I love you guys and thank you guys for doing Chloe and Wonderland with me and for getting a little wasted. We do not drink, and so we are probably way more just communicative than we normally would be.

[Natalie]

Honestly, I have to say we've learned.

[Chloe]

I think Natalie is at capacity.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Okay.

[Chloe]

Okay. Bye. We love you. See you later.